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| jjesse | remember when i said i hate chicago airport | 12:24 |
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| jjesse | stupid plane is canceled or delayed and they can't gaurnetee i'll make my connection | 12:29 |
| fdoving | nice, airports are fun. they have been flying for many many years, but the airport system still doesn't work well. | 12:33 |
| jjesse | yeah i was supposed to be in omaha nebraska to teach a class tomorrow morning at 8am | 12:33 |
| jjesse | but can't get ther until 10am tomorrow now | 12:33 |
| jjesse | air traffic controllers are delaying the flights due to "low ceiling" | 12:34 |
| fdoving | fun. ohwell. | 12:35 |
| fdoving | not much we can do about the weather. | 12:36 |
| jjesse | yup now i have a 6am flight to catch | 12:36 |
| nixternal | jjesse: so no flight ey | 01:09 |
| nixternal | it is sunny and warm here in Chicago right now :) | 01:09 |
| ryanakca | lol | 01:19 |
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| ryanakca | should I test kde4 with the kubuntu.org packages or built from source? | 01:23 |
| _lucky_ | the packages are now quite old | 01:24 |
| ryanakca | okies, from source it is | 01:25 |
| _lucky_ | yes but there some minutes breakage, don't expect to compile all the modules tonight | 01:25 |
| _lucky_ | kdenetwork for instance | 01:25 |
| _lucky_ | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 good starting point | 01:26 |
| jjesse | nixternal: seriously sunny? | 01:34 |
| nixternal | super sunny | 01:34 |
| jjesse | all i heard was "there is a low ceiling and we can't gaurentee any flights" | 01:34 |
| nixternal | I can see clouds over the lake heading your way | 01:34 |
| jjesse | must have been it | 01:34 |
| nixternal | the planes are flying..I am in the path of the main runway | 01:35 |
| jjesse | i don't understand how things work | 01:35 |
| nixternal | we have had popcorn showers and storms, nothing crazy though | 01:35 |
| nixternal | jjesse: they make sh*t up all of the time | 01:35 |
| jjesse | yup, i was supposed to be in omaha ne for a class at 8am tomorrow | 01:35 |
| jjesse | now i don't get into omaha until 10am | 01:35 |
| nixternal | when were you supposed to fly out? | 01:36 |
| jjesse | 6 est | 01:36 |
| nixternal | today? | 01:36 |
| nixternal | tomorrow? | 01:36 |
| nixternal | next year? | 01:36 |
| jjesse | i was supposed to land at 6:30 in chicago and fly out to omaha at 8pm | 01:36 |
| jjesse | today | 01:36 |
| nixternal | ahh | 01:36 |
| jjesse | but the planes were all delayed and i wouldn't make my connection or something like that | 01:36 |
| nixternal | you should have just hopped in a rental | 01:36 |
| nixternal | 3 hours and you would have been here | 01:36 |
| jjesse | yeah i could have but oh well | 01:37 |
| nixternal | hehe | 01:37 |
| jjesse | now i have a 6am flight out of gr to chicago | 01:37 |
| nixternal | and that is cheaper and you spend the same amount of time as you would flying | 01:37 |
| jjesse | and then an 8am out of chicago to ne | 01:37 |
| jjesse | oh well, time to go pick up dinner be back later | 01:37 |
| nixternal | later | 01:37 |
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| jjesse | back | 02:17 |
| ryanakca | wb | 02:19 |
| jjesse | thanks ryanakca | 02:24 |
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| Hobbsee | morning all | 03:54 |
| nixternal | hiya Hobbsee | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | hey nixternal :) | 04:01 |
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| mhb | good morning | 07:53 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 07:54 |
| === nixternal hopes someone will approve KPlayer RFS so I can request a sync | ||
| mhb | nixternal: well definitely not me :o) | 07:54 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:55 |
| nixternal | the only issue I see someone having is with the copyright file, and if they do, I have enough firepower to back it up | 07:55 |
| nixternal | it is GPL, but the author likes to remain anonymous to an extent | 07:55 |
| crimsun | there's nothing in the GPL that states a pseudonymn cannot be used. | 07:56 |
| crimsun | it makes it more difficult for the originator to enforce claims, but it doesn't affect the source code itself, which is ultimately what matters | 07:57 |
| nixternal | crimsun: that I found out...I dont' care how many people tried to argue laws, there is some sort of weird Bern* something rule that allows for it internationally, and the FSF allows it | 08:00 |
| nixternal | the FSF goes as far as verifying the license as well | 08:00 |
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| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Hi | 08:36 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: hi | 08:36 |
| Hobbsee | hi DaSkreech | 08:37 |
| Hobbsee | ! | 08:37 |
| Jucato | yo DaSkreech | 08:37 |
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee! | 08:37 |
| nixternal | boo | 08:38 |
| === nixternal crosses fingers and hopes sid boots | ||
| Jucato | :) | 08:38 |
| nixternal | logging out after dist-upgrade crashed | 08:39 |
| === nixternal seens kdm | ||
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| nixternal | oh wow | 08:43 |
| nixternal | seens? | 08:43 |
| nixternal | 1:45am | 08:43 |
| nixternal | that's why | 08:43 |
| nixternal | wo0t! | 08:43 |
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| DaSkreech | sid up? | 08:44 |
| nixternal | embedded http library WORKS! embedded HGET, HPOST, HHEAD WORKS! libhttp-dev, libhttp-dbg WORKS! new Plucker Desktop WORKS! KPlayer WORKS! | 08:44 |
| nixternal | I am batting 1000 tonight with Debian builds | 08:44 |
| nixternal | close the ITPs, RFS, sleep.... | 08:44 |
| nixternal | soon, we will have goodies that will wipe out some annoying boogs | 08:45 |
| DaSkreech | kde4 ? | 08:45 |
| nixternal | KDE whatever! :) | 08:45 |
| nixternal | version .whatever | 08:45 |
| nixternal | well, I am leaving the KDE 4 stuff up to the Debian KDE 4 people | 08:46 |
| nixternal | they are rigorous | 08:46 |
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| nixternal | eww | 08:47 |
| nixternal | Konqui FTW | 08:47 |
| Jucato | Konqi!!!! | 08:47 |
| Jucato | :) | 08:47 |
| DaSkreech | dolphin! | 08:48 |
| nixternal | I only have to use FF for my bank..and that is enough pain right there | 08:48 |
| nixternal | nothing like pressing the little icon and watching it bounce almost to timeout, and then boom, my Kubuntu welcome page ;) | 08:48 |
| nixternal | Konqui, I just think about opening Konqui, and Kubuntu does it...great stuff | 08:49 |
| Jucato | you think about opening Konqi and Kubuntu does it? you have some sort of thought recognition device in there? | 08:50 |
| nixternal | ya, it is called KDE..it is just that darn smart | 08:50 |
| Jucato | hehehe :) | 08:51 |
| Tm_T | it IS! | 08:52 |
| Tm_T | outsmart me every day | 08:52 |
| Tm_T | not that would demand much | 08:52 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 08:52 |
| nixternal | same here | 08:52 |
| nixternal | dolphin don't browse the intarweb though does it? | 08:52 |
| Tm_T | "be smart, use KDE" | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | "KDE, outsmart you every day" | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | "why be dumb whenyou can be smart with KDE" | 08:53 |
| === Tm_T flips | ||
| Tm_T | hehahahahaha | 08:53 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 08:54 |
| Jucato | nixternal: no it doesn't. Dolphin is a dedicated file manager only... no embedded previews either | 08:54 |
| nixternal | ahh | 08:54 |
| nixternal | konqui ftw! | 08:54 |
| Tm_T | nice, I have to call, so I have to disconnect from internet =) | 09:00 |
| Jucato | :/ | 09:00 |
| Tm_T | see you on the other side -> | 09:00 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: tried the new kmymoney? | 09:01 |
| nixternal | not yet...I need to..last time I tried they didn't import my bank statements worth a junk | 09:01 |
| nixternal | and I wasn't to happy about the usability either | 09:02 |
| DaSkreech | I like the new one | 09:02 |
| nixternal | g'nite | 09:08 |
| Jucato | gn8 nixternal! | 09:08 |
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| siretart | Riddell: xine-lib 1.1.6 has been built now successfully. I think that's what Tonio needed for new kaffeine | 09:44 |
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| Tonio_ | heya ;) | 09:49 |
| raphink | hi siretart && Tonio_ | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: ;) | 09:49 |
| raphink | a roule? | 09:49 |
| siretart | hey raphink, hi Tonio_! | 09:49 |
| raphink | what's up siretart? | 09:50 |
| siretart | Tonio_: xine-lib 1.1.6 has been built now successfully. I think that's what you need for new kaffeine | 09:50 |
| siretart | raphink: thanks, fine, and yourself? | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: perfect ! will upload today :) | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: http://launchpad.net/kdesudo | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: :) | 09:50 |
| raphink | I'm good siretart | 09:50 |
| raphink | ah super kdesudo | 09:51 |
| raphink | trs bien | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: based on a 4 year unmaintained code..... | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | I love free software :) | 09:51 |
| raphink | hehe yes | 09:51 |
| raphink | who is the new maintainer then? | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | me :'( | 09:52 |
| raphink | tu fais du C? | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: well there is a team for this, including me, mhb, _stefans_... | 09:52 |
| raphink | je te vois pas dans les admins sur sourceforge | 09:52 |
| raphink | ah | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: I don't know anything about c++, that's the funny thing :) | 09:52 |
| raphink | but you're not using the sourceforge page ? | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: upstream is gone for 4 years, no chance to get the key of the sourceforge page.... | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: we will use launchpad + kde-apps to release the tarballs | 09:53 |
| raphink | how about contacting sourceforge about it? | 09:53 |
| raphink | ok | 09:53 |
| raphink | nice | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: bah sourceforge is nice for cvs and bugtracker, but for this we have launchpad, so....... | 09:53 |
| raphink | yes | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: it already works, fancy testing ? | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | I have a deb ;) | 09:54 |
| siretart | Tonio_: you seriously like sf's bugtracker?! | 09:54 |
| raphink | Tonio_: hmm sure | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: no ;) but I said the functionnality was there | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: I don't feel the need of sourceforge for such a project | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: the deb install a dpkg-divert rule for kdesu, so just use "kdesu adept_manager" for example | 09:56 |
| siretart | the problem is that xine's bugtracker is still at sf, and they don't want to move to anywhere else | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: should remember the passwors | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: no need to launch it twice ;) | 09:56 |
| siretart | that's why the bugpages for the xine packages are so filled up :( | 09:56 |
| raphink | a marche sous feisty? | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: and it resolves the app name + icon via the desktop file | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: waip | 09:56 |
| raphink | k | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | all we need now is the fade effect by _stefans_ and we can release a tarball :) | 09:57 |
| raphink | the fade effect? | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: same than on logout, and same than gksudo uses | 09:57 |
| raphink | ok | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: there is a little bug when using X-Kde-SubstitudeUID, icon and app name are not resolved, so try command line | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | btw, that'll work from the kmenu, except the fancy things are gone :( | 09:58 |
| raphink | you also miss a bash_completion rule | 09:58 |
| raphink | ;) | 09:58 |
| _marseillais | hi | 09:59 |
| raphink | that's something I could do at least | 09:59 |
| raphink | hi _marseillais | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: hum, true ;) | 09:59 |
| _marseillais | hi raphink | 09:59 |
| raphink | c'est mon truc les rgles de completion maintenant | 09:59 |
| raphink | :) | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: well I don't use bash anymore ;) | 09:59 |
| raphink | ah! | 10:00 |
| raphink | bah | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | zsh rules | 10:00 |
| _marseillais | in a source package is it acceptable if there is a debian-something dir ? i've ask smplayer dev to remove his debian dir and he rename it in debian-rvm.... | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | completion is 10x better than with bash | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | lots of things are really better | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | _marseillais: I generally rebuild the tarball without the debian stuff, and put en changelog entry for this | 10:01 |
| raphink | yep, that's the best option imo | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | except when the packaging is nice, which never happens :) | 10:01 |
| raphink | _marseillais: the problem with existant debian/ dirs is that we're not the maintainers of it | 10:01 |
| raphink | so we're stuck with following their changelogs and so on | 10:02 |
| raphink | when debian/ should our field of action | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: and they generally are done upstream, which means bad packaging, most of the time | 10:02 |
| _marseillais | Tonio_, oki i'll do that i didn't it was allowed | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | _marseillais: it is :) | 10:02 |
| raphink | there's a problem with the dpkg-divert with kdesu Tonio_ | 10:02 |
| raphink | which is the options | 10:02 |
| raphink | I don't really think it's a great idea | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 10:02 |
| raphink | because kdesu and kdesudo don't take the same options | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | where is the problem ? | 10:03 |
| raphink | and don't have the same man pages | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: I know I have to divert the man too | 10:03 |
| raphink | :s | 10:03 |
| raphink | what if people still want to use kdesu? | 10:03 |
| raphink | I don't expect anyone to use dpkg-divert | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: they have to remove the package... | 10:04 |
| raphink | that's a problem | 10:04 |
| raphink | why can't users have both programs installed? | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: we are not going to patch the all kde to use kdesudo as backend for krun and X-Kde-SubstitudeUID | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | that would be nightmare stuff | 10:04 |
| raphink | how about developers who need to be sure that their program will run fine with both kdesu and kdesudo? | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: because kdesu is hardcoded anywhere in kde, there is no way to set the app we want as default | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | that's the issue | 10:05 |
| raphink | ah | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | of course I'd do that differently if I could | 10:05 |
| raphink | there's no variable in kderc for that? | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | raphink: the current work on kdesudo is to make it compatible with kdesu options | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | we already added teh -c, --comment | 10:05 |
| raphink | ok | 10:06 |
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| Tonio_ | raphink: I hope to have something 100% command line compatible with kdesu in about a month | 10:08 |
| raphink | ok | 10:08 |
| raphink | :) | 10:08 |
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| Tonio_ | mhb: hey ;) | 10:42 |
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| mhb | oh no, I missed Tonio again | 11:30 |
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| Riddell | yes, me too, I hope he uploads kaffeine before the freeze | 11:35 |
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| _marseillais | wich freeze ? it's not in august ? | 11:36 |
| Riddell | the Tribe 1 freeze | 11:37 |
| mhb | _marseillais: tribe 1 freeze | 11:37 |
| mhb | _marseillais: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyReleaseSchedule | 11:38 |
| _marseillais | mhb, thanks i was asking you that link | 11:38 |
| _marseillais | :) | 11:38 |
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| fdoving | is revu dead? | 11:53 |
| glatzor | Riddell: morning. when do you plan to upload the new python-kde3 3.17? guidance depends on it. | 12:07 |
| Riddell | glatzor: I'll look at that now | 12:07 |
| glatzor | cool | 12:09 |
| crimsun | fdoving: machine's down for new kernel/maintenance | 12:16 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Congratulations to Hobbsee | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | ||
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| Tm_T | Kate & Kontact crashing on quit | 01:16 |
| mhb | Tm_T: now that is a completely useless message to us :o) (sorry for the joke, I mean it well) | 01:19 |
| mhb | Tm_T: you know, if you want to get it fixed, report a bug about it and include lots of information (release, KDE version, crash backtrace, etc.) | 01:20 |
| mhb | Tm_T: and pray that a developer can reproduce it | 01:21 |
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| Tm_T | mhb: err | 01:24 |
| Tm_T | why you're telling me this? | 01:24 |
| === Jucato guesses mhb doesn't know Tm_T :) | ||
| === Tm_T is laughing his weak beard | ||
| mhb | Jucato: not personally, no... | 01:25 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: serves you right for being too elusive :P | 01:25 |
| Jucato | er.. "elusive" really isn't the correct adjective.. | 01:25 |
| mhb | Tm_T: I'd tell the first line to everyone | 01:25 |
| mhb | Tm_T: and those others are because I'm a nice person :o) | 01:26 |
| Tm_T | mhb: oh, I was just thinking out loud | 01:26 |
| Tm_T | I was about to start hunting the issue, if it is reported, if not, check what exactly is causing it,then report ;) | 01:26 |
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| Tm_T | happy meal | 01:27 |
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| mhb | Tm_T: cool | 01:27 |
| Tm_T | hmm, no pun intended | 01:27 |
| Jucato | McDonald's Happy Meal? :) | 01:27 |
| Tm_T | bah, still no kde devel cloak | 01:27 |
| Jucato | now you made me crave for a nice, juicy, cholesterol-loaded burger... | 01:28 |
| Jucato | Tm_T: how come? | 01:28 |
| Jucato | you haven't applied yet? | 01:28 |
| Tm_T | I have | 01:28 |
| === Jucato really goes now | ||
| Tm_T | bah, I think njaard just hates me | 01:29 |
| Jucato | you think? :D | 01:29 |
| Tm_T | maybe I have mocked him too much =) | 01:29 |
| mhb | Tm_T: serves you right for thinking out loud :o) | 01:29 |
| jjesse | nixternal: finally in o'hare airport | 01:29 |
| Jucato | or maybe you have thought out loud too much | 01:29 |
| Tm_T | that too =) | 01:29 |
| Tm_T | WHEEEE =) | 01:29 |
| === Tm_T had too much coffee | ||
| Tm_T | that said, more coffee -> | 01:30 |
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| Tm_T | ah right, I remember this one | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | *** glibc detected *** kate: free(): invalid pointer: 0xbfdd9ab0 *** | 01:37 |
| jjesse | Tm_T: theres no such thing as too much coffee | 01:37 |
| Tm_T | jjesse: there is, trust me | 01:39 |
| === jjesse has been up since 4am trying to catch a flight | ||
| jjesse | so there is no such thing :) | 01:39 |
| Tm_T | there is, trust me | 01:40 |
| === Tm_T can hear the echo | ||
| Tm_T | but too much sleep? that's harder to achieve | 01:40 |
| jjesse | i get a headache if i sleep too long, does that count as too much sleep | 01:40 |
| Tm_T | no, that's just headache | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | I get backpains from over 6 hour sleeps | 01:41 |
| Tm_T | btw those headaches prolly comes from your neck, rotate your head and sleep more ;-P | 01:42 |
| jjesse | grin i'll try that next time | 01:42 |
| Tm_T | almost like this crashing is sort of libc issue | 01:43 |
| Tm_T | ok, time to crash kontact too | 01:43 |
| Tm_T | and failure | 02:03 |
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| Nightrose | hi | 02:03 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: so I did not package stuff before so I would need a mentor | 02:04 |
| Nightrose | and somesting small to start with ;-) | 02:05 |
| Nightrose | -s | 02:05 |
| apachelogger | omg | 02:05 |
| apachelogger | welcome Nightrose :) | 02:05 |
| Nightrose | ;-) hey | 02:05 |
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| Jucato | what's a "todo"? ;) | 02:06 |
| Nightrose | ah don do that - I know your list.... | 02:06 |
| === Nightrose is afraid | ||
| Nightrose | ;-) | 02:06 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: that's the alpha folder :P | 02:06 |
| mhb | I see a list of choirs coming up for Jucato | 02:06 |
| apachelogger | todo is filled with crap I'm not interessted | 02:06 |
| apachelogger | in | 02:07 |
| Jucato | mhb: heh :) | 02:07 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: all the good software is already in alpha here ;-) | 02:08 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: the main task we need done now is merging package with newer debian versions | 02:08 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: I'd recommend picking a KDE package from http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html and trying to merge it | 02:09 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Merging has a merging howto | 02:09 |
| apachelogger | mh, good idea that is | 02:09 |
| Nightrose | ok I'll have a look at that as soon as possible | 02:09 |
| sebas | apachelogger: Do you have a rokymotion mailinglist? | 02:10 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: try kftpgrabber perhaps | 02:10 |
| Nightrose | sebas: we do | 02:10 |
| sebas | Nightrose: What's the address? | 02:10 |
| Nightrose | sebas: one moment - looking for it | 02:10 |
| sebas | Nightrose: Thanks | 02:11 |
| Nightrose | https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok-promo | 02:11 |
| sebas | Merci | 02:12 |
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| Nightrose | Riddell: I'll get back to you when I read everything thats necessary | 02:12 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: let me know if you have any questions | 02:13 |
| Nightrose | will do thx | 02:13 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all! | 02:48 |
| mhb | hi Hobbsee | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:49 |
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| mhb | Tonio_ !! | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | re | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: how are you ? :) | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | yay, Tonio_! | 02:55 |
| Tonio_ | yop Hobbsee ;) | 02:56 |
| mhb | Tonio_: great, because I'm finally beginning to understand the konsole kPart magic :o) | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | hehe | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: ping ? | 02:56 |
| mhb | Tonio_: has RadiantFire tried to join the team? | 02:56 |
| mhb | Tonio_: kdesudo one | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: yep, what will e do ? | 02:56 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: hey | 02:56 |
| _StefanS_ | wassup | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: just wanted to know if you have a planning for the fade effect and kdesudo ? | 02:57 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: like a timeframe+ | 02:57 |
| _StefanS_ | ? | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: if yes I'll wait, if no, I'll release a tarball on kde-apps | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: RadiantFire is interested in working on the code too ? | 02:57 |
| mhb | Tonio_: yes | 02:58 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: just release the tarball, I have had a sick child for a few days, so it has been hard to get anything done on the side | 02:58 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I will make it though (soon i promise) | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: great, does he have ideas on things to do ? | 02:58 |
| mhb | Tonio_: the thing is, some people would like to see only one KDE app for admin granting | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: no pb :) just wanted to be sure I wouldn't have to re-release another tarball in 2 days ;) | 02:58 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: take your time, our target is gutsy now... | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: true | 02:59 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: yep, true. | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: but in my opinion, different framework mean different apps..... | 02:59 |
| mhb | Tonio_: so he and me would like to try to achieve that, separate the kdesudo and kdesu into a backend and a frontend | 02:59 |
| mhb | Tonio_: two backends/one frontend | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: very hard to do..... have you check kdesu structure ? | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: it is a nightmare | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | using kdesu_stub, kdesud etc.... | 03:00 |
| mhb | Tonio_: I haven't, but RadiantFire might have | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | this is the problem :) | 03:00 |
| mhb | Tonio_: yes, I don't say it's an easy job | 03:00 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: at the moment, as we have to divert kdesu to kdesudo, it would be nice to clone the maximum number of options kdesu has | 03:01 |
| mhb | we want to start with having a single UI class for both of them, that's simple | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | I mean command line options | 03:01 |
| mhb | yeah | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | btw that would help for the backend/frontend thing | 03:01 |
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| mhb | Tonio_: I think it would be cool to have him on the team | 03:01 |
| mhb | Tonio_: he can help with that, I'm certain | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: I approved him | 03:01 |
| mhb | thanks | 03:01 |
| Tonio_ | I'm just doubting of the feasability of this | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | kdesu is a nightmare | 03:02 |
| Tonio_ | if you plan to do that, it would be more interesting to rewrite kdesu for kde4, compatible with sudo :) | 03:02 |
| _StefanS_ | ^ sounds a like a good path | 03:02 |
| _StefanS_ | +1 for kde4+kdesu with sudo support | 03:03 |
| _StefanS_ | :D | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | but of course the backend/frontend idea is good | 03:03 |
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| mhb | yeah, that might be the best approach | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | just that it would be easier to make a kdesudo compatible with su than a kdesu compatible with sudo :) | 03:03 |
| nosrednaekim | I think that sounds good too... kdesu has always annoyed me | 03:03 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: if the plan is to have kdesudo also compatible with su, I of course approve that | 03:04 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: how many options are we talking about in the kdesu that needs to be supported? | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | just get afayc of the kdesu code, bad for your health | 03:04 |
| mhb | Tonio_: hehe :o) | 03:04 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: man kdesu | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 03:04 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: not that much in fact | 03:04 |
| Nightrose | ;-) nice picture in the mail sebas | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: btw, jdesu is just perfect for su | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: that's why it doesn't sound a big issue for me to have 2 apps | 03:05 |
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| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: thats not much I think, AFAIR most of that is coming from kpassworddialog class anyways | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: but of course, if you consider the long term approach | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep | 03:05 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: I planned to work on that toonight, adding more options | 03:06 |
| mhb | Tonio_: yes, in the long term it would be great to have one app on KDE SVN | 03:06 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: lets do that together then | 03:06 |
| mhb | -i is mine :o) | 03:06 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: my kid is pretty well now and shouldn't cause too much noisy tonight | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: the long term is to replace kdesu, or patch kde to set the wanted backend | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: the problem is that kdesu is hardcoded everywqhere in kde code | 03:06 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: that's why I think the first thing to do is reproduce all the command line options in fact..... | 03:07 |
| sebas | Nightrose: :> | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | then separate to frontend + backend | 03:07 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: agree on the idea ? | 03:07 |
| mhb | yes | 03:07 |
| Lure_ | apachelogger: I have seen you khalki packages on revu - do you plan to upload libkhalki too? | 03:09 |
| apachelogger | Lure_: it's alrady uploaded I think | 03:09 |
| apachelogger | just waiting for it to get in the repos | 03:09 |
| Lure_ | apachelogger: on revu? | 03:09 |
| apachelogger | well, and ubuntu | 03:09 |
| Lure_ | I have only seen khalkicards/applet | 03:10 |
| apachelogger | aaaaa | 03:10 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I just look at that fade, it seems like you and mhb will take the command line (?) | 03:10 |
| apachelogger | omg | 03:10 |
| apachelogger | might it be a typo | 03:10 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 03:10 |
| apachelogger | the name just sux | 03:10 |
| apachelogger | and the unreachablility of revu sux even more | 03:10 |
| Lure_ | apachelogger: yep, it seems revu is down for maintenance | 03:11 |
| apachelogger | just like LP is | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | it's probably sitting in new | 03:11 |
| === apachelogger hates when ubuntu servers go down for maintenance | ||
| apachelogger | seems to always happen when I want to work :P | 03:11 |
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| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: yep | 03:15 |
| Tonio_ | _StefanS_: the command line options is one of the only thing I think I can do myself :) | 03:15 |
| _StefanS_ | Tonio_: I won't take the only thing away from you :D | 03:16 |
| Tonio_ | lol | 03:16 |
| === mhb looks forward to see those bling effects :o) | ||
| mhb | _StefanS_: ^^ | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | mmm...bling... | 03:17 |
| _StefanS_ | :) | 03:19 |
| Hobbsee | mmm....shiny.... | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | must...have...shiny.... | 03:21 |
| ShinyMonster | must...have...shiny.... | 03:21 |
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| Jucato | yay shiny!!! | 03:28 |
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| Hobbsee | hiya n8k99 | 04:10 |
| n8k99 | hey Hobbsee | 04:10 |
| Hobbsee | why scared? | 04:10 |
| n8k99 | all this shinying going on in here | 04:10 |
| n8k99 | \^o^? | 04:11 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 04:11 |
| n8k99 | are the kde4 packages in the repos- and can i switch one of my machines over to using it by apt-get? | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | you probably could, but i'd wait for the first beta, as apparently they dont work too well | 04:15 |
| n8k99 | hmm.. ok | 04:16 |
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| Riddell | kwwii: about? don't suppose you remember where you put that akademy logo alteration you made? | 04:24 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: mm, best not to kick people without giving them a chance | 04:24 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: he's been warned before, i'm quite sure. | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | adn it's in !guidelines and such, which is a standard #ubuntu, etc, factoid | 04:25 |
| kwwii | Riddell: sure, let me send it to you | 04:25 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: http://sinecera.de/akademy_long_g.svg | 04:27 |
| Riddell | thanks kwwii | 04:27 |
| Lure_ | Riddell: can we get this in for Tribe1: http://packages.ryanak.ca/pool/ryan-gutsy/kmilo/kdeutils_3.5.7-1ubuntu2.debdiff | 04:41 |
| Lure_ | Riddell: and kwwii can then work on some cutomization for next Tribe: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMilo+-+Customizable+DefaultSkin?content=56287 | 04:42 |
| Lure_ | Riddell: I am running this now for a week without any problems | 04:43 |
| === Hobbsee notes that she could now upload that. | ||
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| Hobbsee | Lure_: main's not frozen yet, iirc? | 04:43 |
| Lure_ | Hobbsee: sure, use you superpowers | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | Lure_: wrong target, though | 04:43 |
| Riddell | actually I did upload that, but it was for feisty so it got rejected, re-uploading | 04:43 |
| Lure_ | Hobbsee: you should know that better now (I do not need to know that) ;-) | 04:44 |
| Lure_ | Hobbsee: but I think freeze is tommorow | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | define tommorrow. | 04:44 |
| Lure_ | Riddell: thanks | 04:44 |
| Lure_ | Hobbsee: 00:00 UTC? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | ofwhat date? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | 9+ hours away, possibly | 04:44 |
| Lure_ | 00:00 UTC Tuesday | 04:44 |
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| kwwii | Lure: is that already in k-d-s ? | 04:52 |
| Lure | kwwii: not yet, but default is already better than old kmilo | 04:52 |
| Lure | kwwii: but it can be controled trough k-d-s (rc file) | 04:53 |
| kwwii | someone should put that in and then I can theme it ;-) | 04:53 |
| seele | Riddell: ping | 05:07 |
| Lure | kwwii: Riddell just did so it should be in Tribe1 | 05:08 |
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| Riddell | seele: hi | 05:24 |
| kwwii | Lure: great, I'll look into it later | 05:25 |
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| siretart | Tonio_: Riddell: how angry would users get if xine would drop the arts output plugin? | 05:50 |
| siretart | read: no arts support at all | 05:50 |
| apachelogger | siretart: they wouldn't notice | 05:50 |
| siretart | really? | 05:50 |
| nixternal | some would | 05:50 |
| apachelogger | or if they would, they probably would love it | 05:51 |
| nixternal | haha | 05:51 |
| Riddell | siretart: not sure, some people use it when they have sound cards that can only play from one source at a time | 05:51 |
| siretart | I don't use kde, I just now that arts is this kde soundserver thingy | 05:51 |
| siretart | s/now/know/ | 05:51 |
| siretart | Riddell: don't we use dmix for that? | 05:51 |
| nixternal | ahh, in phonon | 05:51 |
| apachelogger | mhhhh | 05:51 |
| apachelogger | phonon == pure love | 05:51 |
| nixternal | yes it does | 05:51 |
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| seele | Riddell: the kopete question, is this for determining the default? | 05:52 |
| Riddell | siretart: I wouldn't object if it was easier to drop it, but why is that the case? | 05:52 |
| nixternal | man, everything I have read and seen == pure love, except for KHelpCenter...but we are working on that :) | 05:52 |
| Riddell | seele: konversation. yes, konversation upstream uses tabs at bottom, kubuntu uses list view at side | 05:52 |
| siretart | Riddell: see debian bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354437 | 05:53 |
| ubotu | Debian bug 354437 in xine-ui "Crash with "can't create mcop directory"" [Grave,Open] | 05:53 |
| siretart | Riddell: upstream is going to drop it for xine 1.2, and we're currently discussing dropping it from the debian package | 05:53 |
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| apachelo1ger | konvi is suffering a lot here :( | 05:54 |
| Riddell | siretart: can't the user just uninstall the xine arts plugin? | 05:55 |
| siretart | Riddell: now he can, since I seperated it to 'libxine1-kde' | 05:56 |
| siretart | before, you couldn't | 05:56 |
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| Riddell | oh, I was confusing it with libarts1-xine | 05:56 |
| Riddell | which is the other way around | 05:57 |
| Riddell | wow, multimedia on linux can get quite crazy | 05:57 |
| Riddell | I wonder what happens if you feed xine into arts and arts into xine | 05:57 |
| Riddell | so aye, I don't mind it being dropped | 05:57 |
| nixternal | lol | 05:57 |
| nixternal | ask crimsun he knows all of the sounds stuff | 05:58 |
| nixternal | ;) | 05:58 |
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| mhb | hmm, is there a search engine indexing KDE3's API? | 06:32 |
| mhb | for some reason, google doesn't produce very useful results | 06:32 |
| mhb | usually dead links only - for me, that is | 06:33 |
| Riddell | the API stuff has moved around recently | 06:33 |
| apachelogger | mhb: http://api.kde.org/ | 06:33 |
| apachelogger | ..and got search feature | 06:33 |
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| mhb | apachelogger: oh yes | 06:33 |
| mhb | apachelogger: thanks | 06:34 |
| apachelogger | yw | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | do we have any specific kde packages which need upgrading? | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | or easy bug fixes? | 06:35 |
| === apachelogger is wondering whether he can get his own packaging mentor | ||
| apachelogger | just throwing packages up to revu is far too slow for me :D | 06:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you do need to poke people to review stuff on revu | 06:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: are you going to merge filelight and filelight-i18n? | 06:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: though where? or who? | 06:36 |
| apachelogger | first I'd need filelight 1.0 to be in debian, don't I? | 06:36 |
| Riddell | any kde type in ubuntu-dev | 06:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: no, we don't depend on debian | 06:37 |
| apachelogger | so, how to do what with filelight? | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | apachelogger: here or #ubuntu-motu | 06:39 |
| === apachelogger will just poke everyone :P | ||
| Hobbsee | that works | 06:39 |
| apachelogger | anyway, that's not sorta issue.... though filelight not being 1.0 is! | 06:39 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: move all the po files into the main .orig, package, revu | 06:42 |
| apachelogger | ah merging the two package :D | 06:42 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5370 | 07:19 |
| apachelogger | Lure: khalkhi - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5308 | 07:19 |
| DaSkreech | apachelogger: isnt that stalled? | 07:20 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 07:21 |
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| Riddell | "DEFT (acronym of "Digital Evidence & Forensic Toolkit) is a customized distribution of the Kubuntu live Linux CD." cool | 07:37 |
| Riddell | http://www.stevelab.net/deft/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26 | 07:37 |
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| DaSkreech | :-) | 07:43 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: that compiles fine. it still deviates from debian unnecessarily by converting to cdbs. I'm happy to upload it so long as you send changes back to the debian developer | 07:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: tried to contact him :| | 07:50 |
| apachelogger | no response | 07:50 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: P??r Andersson <paran@lysator.liu.se> | 07:51 |
| apachelogger | james.troup@canonical.com | 07:51 |
| apachelogger | oi | 07:51 |
| Riddell | oh, he's not debian | 07:51 |
| apachelogger | just noticed :D | 07:51 |
| apachelogger | ok, gotta mail him | 07:52 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ask him if he's happy just ceding it to the debian-qt-kde team in debian, if you want to maintain it there | 07:52 |
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| Riddell | anyway, I'll upload this now | 07:54 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: ping, you havn't uploaded k-d-s | 07:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is there any reason why filelight package should have a debian/menu file? | 07:57 |
| Riddell | everything /should/ have a debian/menu file | 07:57 |
| Riddell | generally I don't bother since any sane desktop should use XDG now | 07:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so better leave it? ... if yes - do I have to carry the postinst postrm with it to update menu database? | 08:01 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: I didn't think debian menu needed postinst/rm | 08:16 |
| apachelogger | ok, because they are missing debhelper stuff and I'm not motivated to add it ^^ | 08:17 |
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| paran | Riddell: thats is me. I never claimed to be debian :) | 08:36 |
| Riddell | paran: no, my mistake, not sure why I thought you were | 08:37 |
| === paran is wondering if he should take that as a compliment or not | ||
| Riddell | well it's not an insult :) | 08:38 |
| paran | hehe | 08:38 |
| paran | I only care about the package as I use filelight a lot. nice having 1.0 uploaded now | 08:40 |
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| apokryphos | yeah, filelight's great | 08:42 |
| paran | only annoying thing about it is that it doesn't handle sparse files | 08:43 |
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| giangy | [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed | 08:54 |
| giangy | [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table | 08:54 |
| giangy | [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed | 08:54 |
| giangy | [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table | 08:54 |
| giangy | [ 1627.152000] device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed | 08:54 |
| giangy | [ 1627.156000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table | 08:54 |
| giangy | uhm.. | 08:54 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: licence won't pass http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5357 | 09:16 |
| Riddell | but as least it clears up why it's not in debian, which I've been wondering for ages | 09:16 |
| nixternal | ahh, remove that Riddell...we are going to seperate libmonkey from that package | 09:16 |
| Riddell | nixternal: doesn't that defeat the whole point of the package? | 09:17 |
| nixternal | well, the package is actually a library and binary | 09:17 |
| nixternal | we need to pull the library and seperate it into multivers, and then the k3b plugin can go into universe | 09:18 |
| nixternal | so I have been told | 09:18 |
| Riddell | right, but k3b still can't link to the library | 09:18 |
| nixternal | why can't k3b link to it? | 09:21 |
| nixternal | the license says any GPL software can use it | 09:21 |
| nixternal | or is the linking the bad part? | 09:21 |
| DaSkreech | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6820 2007-03-07 21:42 /usr/bin/free | 09:22 |
| Riddell | nixternal: yes, it says GPL can use it, but GPL doesn't allow GPLed software to use it | 09:22 |
| Riddell | linking is the bad part, that's what makes it a derived work | 09:23 |
| nixternal | ahhh | 09:23 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Dad says, "You can go to the party and drink with your friends as long as Mom is OK with it." Mom, of course, is not OK with it. | 09:23 |
| nixternal | so toss it out then, and tell Sebastian he needs to fix that :) | 09:24 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm | 09:24 |
| DaSkreech | I can't run apps :( | 09:24 |
| nixternal | ScottK: you just had me thinking of freakin' merges with that statement :) MoM and DaD :) | 09:24 |
| ScottK | Heh | 09:24 |
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| DaSkreech | Why would I not be able to run programs? | 09:36 |
| DaSkreech | they segfault or tell me cannot execute binary file | 09:36 |
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| apachelogger | someone wanna revu kopte-otr plugin? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5298 | 09:48 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: try manchicken__ ? | 09:53 |
| apachelogger | really, we should get a mailing list or something, I have no idea who's motu and who's not :S | 09:54 |
| === apachelogger pokes manchicken__ as well | ||
| Riddell | apachelogger: well there is a mailing list, the trouble is that everyone assumes someone else will do it | 09:54 |
| apachelogger | oh ^^ | 09:54 |
| Riddell | so you need to poke people explicitly usually | 09:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5377 has the wrong version number, ubuntu1 is already uploaded | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | --- but remember to move changelog item for post* to new entry | 09:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: shall I reupload right now? | 09:55 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: sure | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | k :) | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5379 | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | btw, does kopete-otr depend on kopete for you? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | ok | 10:06 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It's not in the depends for the package. | 10:06 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: ${shlibs:Depends} detects a depend | 10:07 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: or do you mean at compile time? | 10:07 |
| ScottK | No, I meant run time. Hmm. I didn't think it would pick something like that up. I guess I need to go study that one more. | 10:08 |
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| Riddell | Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.7-1), kopete (>= 4:3.5.7-1) | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: well, I also wondered, but as long as it works ^_^ | 10:09 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it's because kopete itself uses a library | 10:11 |
| Riddell | root@lichts:/root/kopete-otr# ldd /usr/lib/kde3/kopete_otr.so libkopete.so.1 => /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1 (0x00002ac24470f000) | 10:11 |
| Riddell | and /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1 is part of kopete's package, so shlibs will pick up that dependency | 10:11 |
| ScottK | Interesting. | 10:12 |
| === ScottK is downloading it now. | ||
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| DaSkreech | hi ubotu | 10:17 |
| Arby | is it known that kde system settings app is broken in gutsy? | 10:18 |
| manchicken__ | What does that plugin do? | 10:18 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I don't know enough yet to feel comfortable advocating this package. | 10:19 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: khalkhi uploaded, I presume it's ok to upload it even though it hasn't passed NEW yet | 10:19 |
| Riddell | Arby: I've heard complaints | 10:19 |
| Arby | Riddell: yes, kmenu > system settings == crash | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | manchicken__: Off-The-Record encryption | 10:20 |
| Riddell | Arby: how's kcontrol? | 10:20 |
| Arby | not sure, haven't tried | 10:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thanks, btw, is there a way I can track the upload status of packages? | 10:21 |
| Arby | I'm used to the gui for those things, can I just run kcontrol in commandline | 10:21 |
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| Arby | sorry, naive question I know | 10:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: only keep watching https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khalkhi and gutsy-changes | 10:21 |
| apachelogger | k, thank you | 10:21 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue to see NEW queue | 10:22 |
| Arby | ok kcontrol launches but has very limited options | 10:22 |
| Riddell | Arby: so it's probably a problem with XDG menu foo | 10:22 |
| Riddell | ScottK: if you're in a revu mood, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5313 needs looked at | 10:23 |
| Arby | have I got a cat in hells chance of debugging that? | 10:23 |
| Arby | and where would I start? | 10:23 |
| DaSkreech | ha ha John Mcain is thinking of having Ballmer on his tech cabinet if he gets elected | 10:23 |
| === apachelogger is checking a bug in oooqs2-kde | ||
| Arby | message in konsole reads 'Warning No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found Default to Settings/' | 10:24 |
| apachelogger | omg | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | now that memload can't be normal | 10:25 |
| manchicken | Has anybody seen imbrandon lately? | 10:26 |
| DaSkreech | I have | 10:28 |
| ScottK | I love downloading from REVU. It reminds me of the good old days on dial-up. | 10:28 |
| Arby | Riddell: what do I need to do to get enough info for a useful bug report? | 10:28 |
| Arby | system settings gives a traceback but most of the debugging symbols are missing. | 10:28 |
| Riddell | Arby: find a fix :) | 10:28 |
| mhb | ScottK: how I hate those good old days | 10:29 |
| Arby | might be tricky since I don't even understand what's broken :) | 10:29 |
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| Arby | hmm, maybe I'll go and poke something I might understand :) | 10:31 |
| Riddell | Arby: kcontrol just has networking and periferals folders? | 10:33 |
| Arby | Riddell: yes | 10:34 |
| Arby | Riddell: most of the stuff that should be in system settings seems to be in kmenu>lost + found | 10:35 |
| ScottK | mhb: </sarcasm> | 10:37 |
| DaSkreech | hg | 10:37 |
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| apachelogger | *report to upstream* | 10:38 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: have a feisty machine? | 10:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Reviewed. | 10:40 |
| Riddell | thanks | 10:43 |
| ScottK | No problem. That one actually had problems I knew enough about to comment sensibly on... | 10:43 |
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| Riddell | Arby: I take it the kmenu is otherwise normal? | 10:51 |
| Arby | Riddell: yes fine | 10:52 |
| Riddell | all a bit strange | 10:52 |
| Arby | indeed | 10:52 |
| Arby | I've just installed a load of updates, let me reboot and see what happens. | 10:53 |
| Arby | Riddell: what package would I need to ge the relevant debugging symbols? | 10:56 |
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| nixternal | DaSkreech: I have a feisty machine, what's up? | 11:33 |
| nixternal | I use Feisty for my some-what stable box :) | 11:33 |
| DaSkreech | can you give me the md5sum for gwenview? | 11:34 |
| nixternal | sure | 11:53 |
| crimsun | from the repo? | 11:53 |
| crimsun | that info is available via `apt-cache show gwenview|grep ^MD5` | 11:53 |
| nixternal | MD5sum: 541bf7df4c03123eb08105c25a0f548c | 11:53 |
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| DaSkreech | I think mu /usr/bin folder is corrupt | 11:53 |
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| Arby | Riddell: turns out the system settings problem has been reported, bug 114286 | 11:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 114286 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings crash in Gutsy Gibbon" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114286 | 11:53 |
| Arby | added a comment fwiw. | 11:53 |
| xRaich[o] 2x | can somebody tell me where i can get the german localisation files for kdevelop? | 11:53 |
| DaSkreech | s/j k3b | 11:53 |
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| marseillai | to build pykde package what should i use in debian/rules for cdbs packages? | 11:53 |
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| Lure | Arby: can confirm bug (I thought it was just my system at first) | 11:58 |
| Lure | Riddell: this bug should be milestoned to tribe-1 | 11:58 |
| Arby | Lure: thanks, nice to know it's not just me | 11:59 |
| marseillai | Lure: does this sort of error remind you a classic error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24134/ ?? | 12:02 |
| Lure | marseillai: never saw something like this - this looks like .orig.tar.gz is uncompressed again as part of build?! | 12:04 |
| Lure | marseillai: is there such rule in debian/rules? | 12:04 |
| marseillai | yes | 12:04 |
| marseillai | Lure: my debian rules only contain : debhelper and kde rules | 12:04 |
| Lure | marseillai: and french does not help me ;-) | 12:04 |
| marseillai | yes Lure i can understand this | 12:05 |
| marseillai | in fact i don't know how to set my console in english | 12:05 |
| Lure | marseillai: you can du "LANG=C <command>" to get english | 12:05 |
| marseillai | oh | 12:06 |
| marseillai | magic | 12:06 |
| marseillai | Lure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24138/ | 12:08 |
| marseillai | you have an idea ? | 12:08 |
| marseillai | and if i remove this dir | 12:09 |
| Lure | marseillai: check for this tmp-nest file - possible that you have run it before as root | 12:10 |
| marseillai | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24140/ | 12:10 |
| Lure | marseillai: you may try in -motu - I really do not have any good idea | 12:11 |
| marseillai | oki | 12:11 |
| marseillai | thanks | 12:11 |
| Lure | and also have to go to bed now (have early meeting tommorow) | 12:11 |
| Lure | night all | 12:11 |
| marseillai | i've not have man lucks in motu | 12:11 |
| marseillai | so i'll try tomorrow | 12:11 |
| marseillai | this evening is too late | 12:11 |
| Arby | is anyone else finding OpenOffice very unstable in gutsy? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | we don't care about openoffice, canonical will be hiring someone to do that soon :) | 12:13 |
| Arby | oh that's good, because it's utterly screwed right now. | 12:13 |
| Arby | :) | 12:13 |
| Arby | is it worth filing a bug then? | 12:14 |
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| Riddell | sure | 12:14 |
| Arby | Riddell: if writer and calc crash with the same errors, do I file one bug or two? | 12:15 |
| Riddell | one | 12:15 |
| Riddell | and it's the same source package anyway | 12:15 |
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| Arby | OK thanks, lots of stuff about glib and gdk whatever they are | 12:16 |
| Riddell | gnome stuff | 12:17 |
| Arby | well it's b0rked :) | 12:17 |
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