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[12:36] yup now i have a 6am flight to catch [01:09] jjesse: so no flight ey [01:09] it is sunny and warm here in Chicago right now :) [01:19] lol === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:23] should I test kde4 with the kubuntu.org packages or built from source? [01:24] <_lucky_> the packages are now quite old [01:25] okies, from source it is [01:25] <_lucky_> yes but there some minutes breakage, don't expect to compile all the modules tonight [01:25] <_lucky_> kdenetwork for instance [01:26] <_lucky_> http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 good starting point [01:34] nixternal: seriously sunny? [01:34] super sunny [01:34] all i heard was "there is a low ceiling and we can't gaurentee any flights" [01:34] I can see clouds over the lake heading your way [01:34] must have been it [01:35] the planes are flying..I am in the path of the main runway [01:35] i don't understand how things work [01:35] we have had popcorn showers and storms, nothing crazy though [01:35] jjesse: they make sh*t up all of the time [01:35] yup, i was supposed to be in omaha ne for a class at 8am tomorrow [01:35] now i don't get into omaha until 10am [01:36] when were you supposed to fly out? [01:36] 6 est [01:36] today? [01:36] tomorrow? [01:36] next year? [01:36] i was supposed to land at 6:30 in chicago and fly out to omaha at 8pm [01:36] today [01:36] ahh [01:36] but the planes were all delayed and i wouldn't make my connection or something like that [01:36] you should have just hopped in a rental [01:36] 3 hours and you would have been here [01:37] yeah i could have but oh well [01:37] hehe [01:37] now i have a 6am flight out of gr to chicago [01:37] and that is cheaper and you spend the same amount of time as you would flying [01:37] and then an 8am out of chicago to ne [01:37] oh well, time to go pick up dinner be back later [01:37] later === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-089.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.160] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] back [02:19] wb [02:24] thanks ryanakca === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-089.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:54] morning all [04:01] hiya Hobbsee [04:01] hey nixternal :) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442c2.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N761P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-044-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:53] good morning [07:54] mornin' === nixternal hopes someone will approve KPlayer RFS so I can request a sync [07:54] nixternal: well definitely not me :o) [07:55] hehe [07:55] the only issue I see someone having is with the copyright file, and if they do, I have enough firepower to back it up [07:55] it is GPL, but the author likes to remain anonymous to an extent [07:56] there's nothing in the GPL that states a pseudonymn cannot be used. [07:57] it makes it more difficult for the originator to enforce claims, but it doesn't affect the source code itself, which is ultimately what matters [08:00] crimsun: that I found out...I dont' care how many people tried to argue laws, there is some sort of weird Bern* something rule that allows for it internationally, and the FSF allows it [08:00] the FSF goes as far as verifying the license as well === DaSkreech [n=chatzill@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === janne_ [n=janne@217.30.179.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === janne_ is now known as Jannex === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:36] Hobbsee: Hi [08:36] Jucato: hi [08:37] hi DaSkreech [08:37] ! [08:37] yo DaSkreech [08:37] hi Hobbsee! [08:38] boo === nixternal crosses fingers and hopes sid boots [08:38] :) [08:39] logging out after dist-upgrade crashed === nixternal seens kdm === DaSkreech looks up seens [08:43] oh wow [08:43] seens? [08:43] 1:45am [08:43] that's why [08:43] wo0t! === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:44] sid up? [08:44] embedded http library WORKS! embedded HGET, HPOST, HHEAD WORKS! libhttp-dev, libhttp-dbg WORKS! new Plucker Desktop WORKS! KPlayer WORKS! [08:44] I am batting 1000 tonight with Debian builds [08:44] close the ITPs, RFS, sleep.... [08:45] soon, we will have goodies that will wipe out some annoying boogs [08:45] kde4 ? [08:45] KDE whatever! :) [08:45] version .whatever [08:46] well, I am leaving the KDE 4 stuff up to the Debian KDE 4 people [08:46] they are rigorous === Lure [n=lure@212.103.157.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech rolls out his iceweseal [08:47] eww [08:47] Konqui FTW [08:47] Konqi!!!! [08:47] :) [08:48] dolphin! [08:48] I only have to use FF for my bank..and that is enough pain right there [08:48] nothing like pressing the little icon and watching it bounce almost to timeout, and then boom, my Kubuntu welcome page ;) [08:49] Konqui, I just think about opening Konqui, and Kubuntu does it...great stuff [08:50] you think about opening Konqi and Kubuntu does it? you have some sort of thought recognition device in there? [08:50] ya, it is called KDE..it is just that darn smart [08:51] hehehe :) [08:52] it IS! [08:52] outsmart me every day [08:52] not that would demand much [08:52] hahaha [08:52] same here [08:52] dolphin don't browse the intarweb though does it? [08:53] "be smart, use KDE" [08:53] "KDE, outsmart you every day" [08:53] "why be dumb whenyou can be smart with KDE" === Tm_T flips [08:53] hehahahahaha [08:54] hahaha [08:54] nixternal: no it doesn't. Dolphin is a dedicated file manager only... no embedded previews either [08:54] ahh [08:54] konqui ftw! [09:00] nice, I have to call, so I have to disconnect from internet =) [09:00] :/ [09:00] see you on the other side -> [09:01] nixternal: tried the new kmymoney? [09:01] not yet...I need to..last time I tried they didn't import my bank statements worth a junk [09:02] and I wasn't to happy about the usability either [09:02] I like the new one [09:08] g'nite [09:08] gn8 nixternal! === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:44] Riddell: xine-lib 1.1.6 has been built now successfully. I think that's what Tonio needed for new kaffeine === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.187.225.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:49] heya ;) [09:49] hi siretart && Tonio_ [09:49] raphink: ;) [09:49] a roule? [09:49] hey raphink, hi Tonio_! [09:50] what's up siretart? [09:50] Tonio_: xine-lib 1.1.6 has been built now successfully. I think that's what you need for new kaffeine [09:50] raphink: thanks, fine, and yourself? [09:50] siretart: perfect ! will upload today :) [09:50] raphink: http://launchpad.net/kdesudo [09:50] raphink: :) [09:50] I'm good siretart [09:51] ah super kdesudo [09:51] trs bien [09:51] raphink: based on a 4 year unmaintained code..... [09:51] I love free software :) [09:51] hehe yes [09:51] who is the new maintainer then? [09:52] me :'( [09:52] tu fais du C? [09:52] raphink: well there is a team for this, including me, mhb, _stefans_... [09:52] je te vois pas dans les admins sur sourceforge [09:52] ah [09:52] raphink: I don't know anything about c++, that's the funny thing :) [09:52] but you're not using the sourceforge page ? [09:53] raphink: upstream is gone for 4 years, no chance to get the key of the sourceforge page.... [09:53] raphink: we will use launchpad + kde-apps to release the tarballs [09:53] how about contacting sourceforge about it? [09:53] ok [09:53] nice [09:53] raphink: bah sourceforge is nice for cvs and bugtracker, but for this we have launchpad, so....... [09:54] yes [09:54] raphink: it already works, fancy testing ? [09:54] I have a deb ;) [09:54] Tonio_: you seriously like sf's bugtracker?! [09:55] Tonio_: hmm sure [09:55] siretart: no ;) but I said the functionnality was there [09:55] siretart: I don't feel the need of sourceforge for such a project [09:55] raphink: http://tonio.homelinux.org/temp [09:56] raphink: the deb install a dpkg-divert rule for kdesu, so just use "kdesu adept_manager" for example [09:56] the problem is that xine's bugtracker is still at sf, and they don't want to move to anywhere else [09:56] raphink: should remember the passwors [09:56] raphink: no need to launch it twice ;) [09:56] that's why the bugpages for the xine packages are so filled up :( [09:56] a marche sous feisty? [09:56] raphink: and it resolves the app name + icon via the desktop file [09:56] raphink: waip [09:56] k [09:57] all we need now is the fade effect by _stefans_ and we can release a tarball :) [09:57] the fade effect? [09:57] raphink: same than on logout, and same than gksudo uses [09:58] ok [09:58] raphink: there is a little bug when using X-Kde-SubstitudeUID, icon and app name are not resolved, so try command line [09:58] btw, that'll work from the kmenu, except the fancy things are gone :( [09:58] you also miss a bash_completion rule [09:58] ;) [09:59] <_marseillais> hi [09:59] that's something I could do at least [09:59] hi _marseillais [09:59] raphink: hum, true ;) [09:59] <_marseillais> hi raphink [09:59] c'est mon truc les rgles de completion maintenant [09:59] :) [09:59] raphink: well I don't use bash anymore ;) [10:00] ah! [10:00] bah [10:00] zsh rules [10:00] <_marseillais> in a source package is it acceptable if there is a debian-something dir ? i've ask smplayer dev to remove his debian dir and he rename it in debian-rvm.... [10:00] completion is 10x better than with bash [10:00] lots of things are really better [10:01] _marseillais: I generally rebuild the tarball without the debian stuff, and put en changelog entry for this [10:01] yep, that's the best option imo [10:01] except when the packaging is nice, which never happens :) [10:01] _marseillais: the problem with existant debian/ dirs is that we're not the maintainers of it [10:02] so we're stuck with following their changelogs and so on [10:02] when debian/ should our field of action [10:02] raphink: and they generally are done upstream, which means bad packaging, most of the time [10:02] <_marseillais> Tonio_, oki i'll do that i didn't it was allowed [10:02] _marseillais: it is :) [10:02] there's a problem with the dpkg-divert with kdesu Tonio_ [10:02] which is the options [10:02] I don't really think it's a great idea [10:02] hu ? [10:03] because kdesu and kdesudo don't take the same options [10:03] where is the problem ? [10:03] and don't have the same man pages [10:03] raphink: I know I have to divert the man too [10:03] :s [10:03] what if people still want to use kdesu? [10:03] I don't expect anyone to use dpkg-divert [10:04] raphink: they have to remove the package... [10:04] that's a problem [10:04] why can't users have both programs installed? [10:04] raphink: we are not going to patch the all kde to use kdesudo as backend for krun and X-Kde-SubstitudeUID [10:04] that would be nightmare stuff [10:04] how about developers who need to be sure that their program will run fine with both kdesu and kdesudo? [10:05] raphink: because kdesu is hardcoded anywhere in kde, there is no way to set the app we want as default [10:05] that's the issue [10:05] ah [10:05] of course I'd do that differently if I could [10:05] there's no variable in kderc for that? [10:05] raphink: the current work on kdesudo is to make it compatible with kdesu options [10:05] we already added teh -c, --comment [10:06] ok === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549560C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F7064D.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] raphink: I hope to have something 100% command line compatible with kdesu in about a month [10:08] ok [10:08] :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57aef9cd.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] mhb: hey ;) === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:30] oh no, I missed Tonio again === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:35] yes, me too, I hope he uploads kaffeine before the freeze === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-145-109.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:36] <_marseillais> wich freeze ? it's not in august ? [11:37] the Tribe 1 freeze [11:37] _marseillais: tribe 1 freeze [11:38] _marseillais: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyReleaseSchedule [11:38] <_marseillais> mhb, thanks i was asking you that link [11:38] <_marseillais> :) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:53] is revu dead? [12:07] Riddell: morning. when do you plan to upload the new python-kde3 3.17? guidance depends on it. [12:07] glatzor: I'll look at that now [12:09] cool [12:16] fdoving: machine's down for new kernel/maintenance === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Congratulations to Hobbsee | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Riddell at Fri Jun 1 12:33:05 2007 === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549560C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:16] Kate & Kontact crashing on quit [01:19] Tm_T: now that is a completely useless message to us :o) (sorry for the joke, I mean it well) [01:20] Tm_T: you know, if you want to get it fixed, report a bug about it and include lots of information (release, KDE version, crash backtrace, etc.) [01:21] Tm_T: and pray that a developer can reproduce it === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger [01:24] mhb: err [01:24] why you're telling me this? === Jucato guesses mhb doesn't know Tm_T :) === Tm_T is laughing his weak beard [01:25] Jucato: not personally, no... [01:25] Tm_T: serves you right for being too elusive :P [01:25] er.. "elusive" really isn't the correct adjective.. [01:25] Tm_T: I'd tell the first line to everyone [01:26] Tm_T: and those others are because I'm a nice person :o) [01:26] mhb: oh, I was just thinking out loud [01:26] I was about to start hunting the issue, if it is reported, if not, check what exactly is causing it,then report ;) === Jucato goes for some dinner :) [01:27] happy meal === jjesse [n=jjesse@65.42.208.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] Tm_T: cool [01:27] hmm, no pun intended [01:27] McDonald's Happy Meal? :) [01:27] bah, still no kde devel cloak [01:28] now you made me crave for a nice, juicy, cholesterol-loaded burger... [01:28] Tm_T: how come? [01:28] you haven't applied yet? [01:28] I have === Jucato really goes now [01:29] bah, I think njaard just hates me [01:29] you think? :D [01:29] maybe I have mocked him too much =) [01:29] Tm_T: serves you right for thinking out loud :o) [01:29] nixternal: finally in o'hare airport [01:29] or maybe you have thought out loud too much [01:29] that too =) [01:29] WHEEEE =) === Tm_T had too much coffee [01:30] that said, more coffee -> === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:37] ah right, I remember this one [01:37] *** glibc detected *** kate: free(): invalid pointer: 0xbfdd9ab0 *** [01:37] Tm_T: theres no such thing as too much coffee [01:39] jjesse: there is, trust me === jjesse has been up since 4am trying to catch a flight [01:39] so there is no such thing :) [01:40] there is, trust me === Tm_T can hear the echo [01:40] but too much sleep? that's harder to achieve [01:40] i get a headache if i sleep too long, does that count as too much sleep [01:41] no, that's just headache [01:41] I get backpains from over 6 hour sleeps [01:42] btw those headaches prolly comes from your neck, rotate your head and sleep more ;-P [01:42] grin i'll try that next time [01:43] almost like this crashing is sort of libc issue [01:43] ok, time to crash kontact too [02:03] and failure === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] hi [02:04] Riddell: so I did not package stuff before so I would need a mentor [02:05] and somesting small to start with ;-) [02:05] -s [02:05] omg [02:05] welcome Nightrose :) [02:05] ;-) hey === apachelogger takes a look in his todo directory [02:06] what's a "todo"? ;) [02:06] ah don do that - I know your list.... === Nightrose is afraid [02:06] ;-) [02:06] Nightrose: that's the alpha folder :P [02:06] I see a list of choirs coming up for Jucato [02:06] todo is filled with crap I'm not interessted [02:07] in [02:07] mhb: heh :) [02:08] Nightrose: all the good software is already in alpha here ;-) [02:08] Nightrose: the main task we need done now is merging package with newer debian versions [02:09] Nightrose: I'd recommend picking a KDE package from http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html and trying to merge it [02:09] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Merging has a merging howto [02:09] mh, good idea that is [02:09] ok I'll have a look at that as soon as possible [02:10] apachelogger: Do you have a rokymotion mailinglist? [02:10] Nightrose: try kftpgrabber perhaps [02:10] sebas: we do [02:10] Nightrose: What's the address? [02:10] sebas: one moment - looking for it [02:11] Nightrose: Thanks [02:11] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok-promo [02:12] Merci === apachelogger [n=me@N808P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:12] Riddell: I'll get back to you when I read everything thats necessary [02:13] Nightrose: let me know if you have any questions [02:13] will do thx === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@65.42.208.133] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N808P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.99.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jannex [n=janne@217.30.179.128] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:48] hi all! [02:48] hi Hobbsee [02:49] :) === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@65.42.208.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@65.42.208.134] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.187.225.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:55] Tonio_ !! [02:55] re [02:55] mhb: how are you ? :) [02:55] yay, Tonio_! [02:56] yop Hobbsee ;) [02:56] Tonio_: great, because I'm finally beginning to understand the konsole kPart magic :o) [02:56] hehe [02:56] _StefanS_: ping ? [02:56] Tonio_: has RadiantFire tried to join the team? [02:56] Tonio_: kdesudo one [02:56] mhb: yep, what will e do ? [02:56] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: hey [02:56] <_StefanS_> wassup [02:57] _StefanS_: just wanted to know if you have a planning for the fade effect and kdesudo ? [02:57] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: like a timeframe+ [02:57] <_StefanS_> ? [02:57] _StefanS_: if yes I'll wait, if no, I'll release a tarball on kde-apps [02:57] _StefanS_: yep [02:57] mhb: RadiantFire is interested in working on the code too ? [02:58] Tonio_: yes [02:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: just release the tarball, I have had a sick child for a few days, so it has been hard to get anything done on the side [02:58] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I will make it though (soon i promise) [02:58] mhb: great, does he have ideas on things to do ? [02:58] Tonio_: the thing is, some people would like to see only one KDE app for admin granting [02:58] _StefanS_: no pb :) just wanted to be sure I wouldn't have to re-release another tarball in 2 days ;) [02:59] _StefanS_: take your time, our target is gutsy now... [02:59] mhb: true [02:59] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: yep, true. [02:59] mhb: but in my opinion, different framework mean different apps..... [02:59] Tonio_: so he and me would like to try to achieve that, separate the kdesudo and kdesu into a backend and a frontend [02:59] Tonio_: two backends/one frontend [03:00] mhb: very hard to do..... have you check kdesu structure ? [03:00] mhb: it is a nightmare [03:00] using kdesu_stub, kdesud etc.... [03:00] Tonio_: I haven't, but RadiantFire might have [03:00] this is the problem :) [03:00] Tonio_: yes, I don't say it's an easy job [03:01] mhb: at the moment, as we have to divert kdesu to kdesudo, it would be nice to clone the maximum number of options kdesu has [03:01] we want to start with having a single UI class for both of them, that's simple [03:01] I mean command line options [03:01] yeah [03:01] btw that would help for the backend/frontend thing === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-172.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] Tonio_: I think it would be cool to have him on the team [03:01] Tonio_: he can help with that, I'm certain [03:01] mhb: I approved him [03:01] thanks [03:02] I'm just doubting of the feasability of this [03:02] kdesu is a nightmare [03:02] if you plan to do that, it would be more interesting to rewrite kdesu for kde4, compatible with sudo :) [03:02] <_StefanS_> ^ sounds a like a good path [03:03] <_StefanS_> +1 for kde4+kdesu with sudo support [03:03] <_StefanS_> :D [03:03] but of course the backend/frontend idea is good === repete [n=pgoodall@69.25.70.4] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:03] yeah, that might be the best approach [03:03] just that it would be easier to make a kdesudo compatible with su than a kdesu compatible with sudo :) [03:03] I think that sounds good too... kdesu has always annoyed me [03:04] mhb: if the plan is to have kdesudo also compatible with su, I of course approve that [03:04] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: how many options are we talking about in the kdesu that needs to be supported? [03:04] just get afayc of the kdesu code, bad for your health [03:04] Tonio_: hehe :o) === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-172.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:04] _StefanS_: man kdesu [03:04] ;) [03:04] _StefanS_: not that much in fact [03:05] ;-) nice picture in the mail sebas [03:05] mhb: btw, jdesu is just perfect for su [03:05] mhb: that's why it doesn't sound a big issue for me to have 2 apps === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@183-130.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: thats not much I think, AFAIR most of that is coming from kpassworddialog class anyways [03:05] mhb: but of course, if you consider the long term approach [03:05] _StefanS_: yep [03:06] _StefanS_: I planned to work on that toonight, adding more options [03:06] Tonio_: yes, in the long term it would be great to have one app on KDE SVN [03:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: lets do that together then [03:06] -i is mine :o) [03:06] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: my kid is pretty well now and shouldn't cause too much noisy tonight [03:06] mhb: the long term is to replace kdesu, or patch kde to set the wanted backend [03:06] mhb: the problem is that kdesu is hardcoded everywqhere in kde code [03:07] mhb: that's why I think the first thing to do is reproduce all the command line options in fact..... [03:07] Nightrose: :> [03:07] then separate to frontend + backend [03:07] mhb: agree on the idea ? [03:07] yes [03:09] apachelogger: I have seen you khalki packages on revu - do you plan to upload libkhalki too? [03:09] Lure_: it's alrady uploaded I think [03:09] just waiting for it to get in the repos [03:09] apachelogger: on revu? [03:09] well, and ubuntu [03:10] I have only seen khalkicards/applet [03:10] aaaaa [03:10] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I just look at that fade, it seems like you and mhb will take the command line (?) [03:10] omg [03:10] might it be a typo [03:10] *shrug* [03:10] the name just sux [03:10] and the unreachablility of revu sux even more [03:11] apachelogger: yep, it seems revu is down for maintenance [03:11] just like LP is [03:11] it's probably sitting in new === apachelogger hates when ubuntu servers go down for maintenance [03:11] seems to always happen when I want to work :P === apachelogger writes a mail to Riddell [03:15] _StefanS_: yep [03:15] _StefanS_: the command line options is one of the only thing I think I can do myself :) [03:16] <_StefanS_> Tonio_: I won't take the only thing away from you :D [03:16] lol === mhb looks forward to see those bling effects :o) [03:17] _StefanS_: ^^ [03:17] mmm...bling... [03:19] <_StefanS_> :) [03:21] mmm....shiny.... [03:21] must...have...shiny.... [03:21] must...have...shiny.... === repete [n=pgoodall@69.25.70.4] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato polishes ShinyMonster === ShinyMonster gets shinier [03:28] yay shiny!!! === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 looks in here and gets scared, really scared [04:10] hiya n8k99 [04:10] hey Hobbsee [04:10] why scared? [04:10] all this shinying going on in here [04:11] \^o^? [04:11] hehe [04:14] are the kde4 packages in the repos- and can i switch one of my machines over to using it by apt-get? [04:15] you probably could, but i'd wait for the first beta, as apparently they dont work too well [04:16] hmm.. ok === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic est ausente: Ausente por ahora. === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === rouzic_ausente [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has left #kubuntu-devel [requested] === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [04:24] kwwii: about? don't suppose you remember where you put that akademy logo alteration you made? [04:24] Hobbsee: mm, best not to kick people without giving them a chance [04:25] Riddell: he's been warned before, i'm quite sure. [04:25] adn it's in !guidelines and such, which is a standard #ubuntu, etc, factoid [04:25] Riddell: sure, let me send it to you === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:27] Riddell: http://sinecera.de/akademy_long_g.svg [04:27] thanks kwwii [04:41] Riddell: can we get this in for Tribe1: http://packages.ryanak.ca/pool/ryan-gutsy/kmilo/kdeutils_3.5.7-1ubuntu2.debdiff [04:42] Riddell: and kwwii can then work on some cutomization for next Tribe: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMilo+-+Customizable+DefaultSkin?content=56287 [04:43] Riddell: I am running this now for a week without any problems === Hobbsee notes that she could now upload that. === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.59.154] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43] Lure_: main's not frozen yet, iirc? [04:43] Hobbsee: sure, use you superpowers [04:43] Lure_: wrong target, though [04:43] actually I did upload that, but it was for feisty so it got rejected, re-uploading [04:44] Hobbsee: you should know that better now (I do not need to know that) ;-) [04:44] Hobbsee: but I think freeze is tommorow [04:44] define tommorrow. [04:44] Riddell: thanks [04:44] Hobbsee: 00:00 UTC? [04:44] ofwhat date? [04:44] 9+ hours away, possibly [04:44] 00:00 UTC Tuesday === Lure_ is now known as Lure [04:52] Lure: is that already in k-d-s ? [04:52] kwwii: not yet, but default is already better than old kmilo [04:53] kwwii: but it can be controled trough k-d-s (rc file) [04:53] someone should put that in and then I can theme it ;-) [05:07] Riddell: ping [05:08] kwwii: Riddell just did so it should be in Tribe1 === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44015.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E02E.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:24] seele: hi [05:25] Lure: great, I'll look into it later === neversfelde_ [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44165.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N808P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db441d8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:50] Tonio_: Riddell: how angry would users get if xine would drop the arts output plugin? [05:50] read: no arts support at all [05:50] siretart: they wouldn't notice [05:50] really? [05:50] some would [05:51] or if they would, they probably would love it [05:51] haha [05:51] siretart: not sure, some people use it when they have sound cards that can only play from one source at a time [05:51] I don't use kde, I just now that arts is this kde soundserver thingy [05:51] s/now/know/ [05:51] Riddell: don't we use dmix for that? [05:51] ahh, in phonon [05:51] mhhhh [05:51] phonon == pure love [05:51] yes it does === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:52] Riddell: the kopete question, is this for determining the default? [05:52] siretart: I wouldn't object if it was easier to drop it, but why is that the case? [05:52] man, everything I have read and seen == pure love, except for KHelpCenter...but we are working on that :) [05:52] seele: konversation. yes, konversation upstream uses tabs at bottom, kubuntu uses list view at side [05:53] Riddell: see debian bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354437 [05:53] Debian bug 354437 in xine-ui "Crash with "can't create mcop directory"" [Grave,Open] [05:53] Riddell: upstream is going to drop it for xine 1.2, and we're currently discussing dropping it from the debian package === apachelo1ger [n=me@N924P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:54] konvi is suffering a lot here :( [05:55] siretart: can't the user just uninstall the xine arts plugin? [05:56] Riddell: now he can, since I seperated it to 'libxine1-kde' [05:56] before, you couldn't === neversfelde_ [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442b1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:56] oh, I was confusing it with libarts1-xine [05:57] which is the other way around [05:57] wow, multimedia on linux can get quite crazy [05:57] I wonder what happens if you feed xine into arts and arts into xine [05:57] so aye, I don't mind it being dropped [05:57] lol [05:58] ask crimsun he knows all of the sounds stuff [05:58] ;) === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N924P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-093.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-093.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-85-95.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-76-194.w90-28.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:32] hmm, is there a search engine indexing KDE3's API? [06:32] for some reason, google doesn't produce very useful results [06:33] usually dead links only - for me, that is [06:33] the API stuff has moved around recently [06:33] mhb: http://api.kde.org/ [06:33] ..and got search feature === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD9509CF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:33] apachelogger: oh yes [06:34] apachelogger: thanks [06:35] yw [06:35] do we have any specific kde packages which need upgrading? [06:35] or easy bug fixes? === apachelogger is wondering whether he can get his own packaging mentor [06:36] just throwing packages up to revu is far too slow for me :D [06:36] apachelogger: you do need to poke people to review stuff on revu [06:36] apachelogger: are you going to merge filelight and filelight-i18n? [06:36] Riddell: though where? or who? [06:36] first I'd need filelight 1.0 to be in debian, don't I? [06:36] any kde type in ubuntu-dev [06:37] apachelogger: no, we don't depend on debian [06:37] so, how to do what with filelight? [06:39] apachelogger: here or #ubuntu-motu === apachelogger will just poke everyone :P [06:39] that works [06:39] anyway, that's not sorta issue.... though filelight not being 1.0 is! [06:42] apachelogger: move all the po files into the main .orig, package, revu [06:42] ah merging the two package :D === apachelogger [n=me@N859P014.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@M3161P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=ubuntu@port0002-abm-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db440d3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:19] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5370 [07:19] Lure: khalkhi - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5308 [07:20] apachelogger: isnt that stalled? [07:21] *shrug* === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db440d3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jannex [n=jokalli2@persikka.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db440d3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:37] "DEFT (acronym of "Digital Evidence & Forensic Toolkit) is a customized distribution of the Kubuntu live Linux CD." cool [07:37] http://www.stevelab.net/deft/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26 === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44259.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:43] :-) === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde_ [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442aa.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:49] apachelogger: that compiles fine. it still deviates from debian unnecessarily by converting to cdbs. I'm happy to upload it so long as you send changes back to the debian developer [07:50] Riddell: tried to contact him :| [07:50] no response [07:51] apachelogger: P??r Andersson [07:51] james.troup@canonical.com [07:51] oi [07:51] oh, he's not debian [07:51] just noticed :D [07:52] ok, gotta mail him [07:52] apachelogger: ask him if he's happy just ceding it to the debian-qt-kde team in debian, if you want to maintain it there === neversfelde__ [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442bd.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:54] anyway, I'll upload this now [07:54] imbrandon: ping, you havn't uploaded k-d-s [07:57] Riddell: is there any reason why filelight package should have a debian/menu file? [07:57] everything /should/ have a debian/menu file [07:58] generally I don't bother since any sane desktop should use XDG now [08:01] Riddell: so better leave it? ... if yes - do I have to carry the postinst postrm with it to update menu database? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@port0034-afo-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.152.169.97] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:16] apachelogger: I didn't think debian menu needed postinst/rm [08:17] ok, because they are missing debhelper stuff and I'm not motivated to add it ^^ === je4d [n=jeff@peridot.caffeinated.me.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A7259C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-52-173.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:36] Riddell: thats is me. I never claimed to be debian :) [08:37] paran: no, my mistake, not sure why I thought you were === paran is wondering if he should take that as a compliment or not [08:38] well it's not an insult :) [08:38] hehe [08:40] I only care about the package as I use filelight a lot. nice having 1.0 uploaded now === apacheLAGger [n=me@M3159P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:42] yeah, filelight's great [08:43] only annoying thing about it is that it doesn't handle sparse files === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === apachelogger feeds new filelight into lintian === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:54] [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed [08:54] [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table [08:54] [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed [08:54] [ 1626.768000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table [08:54] [ 1627.152000] device-mapper: table: 254:0: linear: dm-linear: Device lookup failed [08:54] [ 1627.156000] device-mapper: ioctl: error adding target to table [08:54] uhm.. === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shentey [n=shentey@dslb-088-073-079-073.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:16] nixternal: licence won't pass http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5357 [09:16] but as least it clears up why it's not in debian, which I've been wondering for ages [09:16] ahh, remove that Riddell...we are going to seperate libmonkey from that package [09:17] nixternal: doesn't that defeat the whole point of the package? [09:17] well, the package is actually a library and binary [09:18] we need to pull the library and seperate it into multivers, and then the k3b plugin can go into universe [09:18] so I have been told [09:18] right, but k3b still can't link to the library [09:21] why can't k3b link to it? [09:21] the license says any GPL software can use it [09:21] or is the linking the bad part? [09:22] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6820 2007-03-07 21:42 /usr/bin/free [09:22] nixternal: yes, it says GPL can use it, but GPL doesn't allow GPLed software to use it [09:23] linking is the bad part, that's what makes it a derived work [09:23] ahhh [09:23] nixternal: Dad says, "You can go to the party and drink with your friends as long as Mom is OK with it." Mom, of course, is not OK with it. [09:24] so toss it out then, and tell Sebastian he needs to fix that :) [09:24] Hmm [09:24] I can't run apps :( [09:24] ScottK: you just had me thinking of freakin' merges with that statement :) MoM and DaD :) [09:24] Heh === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442bd.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:36] Why would I not be able to run programs? [09:36] they segfault or tell me cannot execute binary file === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] someone wanna revu kopte-otr plugin? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5298 === apachelogger pokes Lure_ === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@26.79.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:53] apachelogger: try manchicken__ ? [09:54] really, we should get a mailing list or something, I have no idea who's motu and who's not :S === apachelogger pokes manchicken__ as well [09:54] apachelogger: well there is a mailing list, the trouble is that everyone assumes someone else will do it [09:54] oh ^^ [09:55] so you need to poke people explicitly usually [09:55] apachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5377 has the wrong version number, ubuntu1 is already uploaded [09:55] --- but remember to move changelog item for post* to new entry [09:55] Riddell: shall I reupload right now? [09:56] apachelogger: sure [09:56] k :) [10:05] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5379 [10:05] btw, does kopete-otr depend on kopete for you? [10:05] yes [10:06] ok [10:06] apachelogger: It's not in the depends for the package. [10:07] ScottK: ${shlibs:Depends} detects a depend [10:07] ScottK: or do you mean at compile time? [10:08] No, I meant run time. Hmm. I didn't think it would pick something like that up. I guess I need to go study that one more. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:08] Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.7-1), kopete (>= 4:3.5.7-1) [10:09] ScottK: well, I also wondered, but as long as it works ^_^ [10:11] ScottK: it's because kopete itself uses a library [10:11] root@lichts:/root/kopete-otr# ldd /usr/lib/kde3/kopete_otr.so libkopete.so.1 => /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1 (0x00002ac24470f000) [10:11] and /usr/lib/libkopete.so.1 is part of kopete's package, so shlibs will pick up that dependency [10:12] Interesting. === ScottK is downloading it now. === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] hi ubotu [10:18] is it known that kde system settings app is broken in gutsy? [10:18] What does that plugin do? [10:19] apachelogger: I don't know enough yet to feel comfortable advocating this package. [10:19] apachelogger: khalkhi uploaded, I presume it's ok to upload it even though it hasn't passed NEW yet [10:19] Arby: I've heard complaints [10:20] Riddell: yes, kmenu > system settings == crash [10:20] manchicken__: Off-The-Record encryption [10:20] Arby: how's kcontrol? [10:20] not sure, haven't tried [10:21] Riddell: thanks, btw, is there a way I can track the upload status of packages? [10:21] I'm used to the gui for those things, can I just run kcontrol in commandline === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:21] sorry, naive question I know [10:21] apachelogger: only keep watching https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/khalkhi and gutsy-changes [10:21] k, thank you [10:22] apachelogger: ok, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue to see NEW queue [10:22] ok kcontrol launches but has very limited options [10:22] Arby: so it's probably a problem with XDG menu foo [10:23] ScottK: if you're in a revu mood, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5313 needs looked at [10:23] have I got a cat in hells chance of debugging that? [10:23] and where would I start? [10:23] ha ha John Mcain is thinking of having Ballmer on his tech cabinet if he gets elected === apachelogger is checking a bug in oooqs2-kde [10:24] message in konsole reads 'Warning No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found Default to Settings/' [10:25] omg [10:25] now that memload can't be normal [10:26] Has anybody seen imbrandon lately? [10:28] I have [10:28] I love downloading from REVU. It reminds me of the good old days on dial-up. [10:28] Riddell: what do I need to do to get enough info for a useful bug report? [10:28] system settings gives a traceback but most of the debugging symbols are missing. [10:28] Arby: find a fix :) [10:29] ScottK: how I hate those good old days [10:29] might be tricky since I don't even understand what's broken :) === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:31] hmm, maybe I'll go and poke something I might understand :) [10:33] Arby: kcontrol just has networking and periferals folders? [10:34] Riddell: yes [10:35] Riddell: most of the stuff that should be in system settings seems to be in kmenu>lost + found [10:37] mhb: [10:37] hg === apachelogger isn't in mood for code revu [10:38] *report to upstream* [10:39] nixternal: have a feisty machine? [10:40] Riddell: Reviewed. [10:43] thanks [10:43] No problem. That one actually had problems I knew enough about to comment sensibly on... === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:51] Arby: I take it the kmenu is otherwise normal? [10:52] Riddell: yes fine [10:52] all a bit strange [10:52] indeed [10:53] I've just installed a load of updates, let me reboot and see what happens. [10:56] Riddell: what package would I need to ge the relevant debugging symbols? === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54956BFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luka74 is now known as Lure === luis_lopez [n=jabba@68.182.95.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387D258.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:33] DaSkreech: I have a feisty machine, what's up? [11:33] I use Feisty for my some-what stable box :) [11:34] can you give me the md5sum for gwenview? [11:53] sure [11:53] from the repo? [11:53] that info is available via `apt-cache show gwenview|grep ^MD5` [11:53] MD5sum: 541bf7df4c03123eb08105c25a0f548c === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.175] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal goes to school [11:53] I think mu /usr/bin folder is corrupt === yveslu [n=yves@194.235.200.175] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387D258.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:53] Riddell: turns out the system settings problem has been reported, bug 114286 [11:53] Launchpad bug 114286 in kde-systemsettings "systemsettings crash in Gutsy Gibbon" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114286 [11:53] added a comment fwiw. [11:53] can somebody tell me where i can get the german localisation files for kdevelop? [11:53] s/j k3b === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F1294.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:53] to build pykde package what should i use in debian/rules for cdbs packages? === apacheLAGger [n=me@N934P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:58] Arby: can confirm bug (I thought it was just my system at first) [11:58] Riddell: this bug should be milestoned to tribe-1 [11:59] Lure: thanks, nice to know it's not just me [12:02] Lure: does this sort of error remind you a classic error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24134/ ?? [12:04] marseillai: never saw something like this - this looks like .orig.tar.gz is uncompressed again as part of build?! [12:04] marseillai: is there such rule in debian/rules? [12:04] yes [12:04] Lure: my debian rules only contain : debhelper and kde rules [12:04] marseillai: and french does not help me ;-) [12:05] yes Lure i can understand this [12:05] in fact i don't know how to set my console in english [12:05] marseillai: you can du "LANG=C " to get english [12:06] oh [12:06] magic [12:08] Lure: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24138/ [12:08] you have an idea ? [12:09] and if i remove this dir [12:10] marseillai: check for this tmp-nest file - possible that you have run it before as root [12:10] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24140/ [12:11] marseillai: you may try in -motu - I really do not have any good idea [12:11] oki [12:11] thanks [12:11] and also have to go to bed now (have early meeting tommorow) [12:11] night all [12:11] i've not have man lucks in motu [12:11] so i'll try tomorrow [12:11] this evening is too late [12:12] is anyone else finding OpenOffice very unstable in gutsy? [12:13] we don't care about openoffice, canonical will be hiring someone to do that soon :) [12:13] oh that's good, because it's utterly screwed right now. [12:13] :) [12:14] is it worth filing a bug then? === nosrednaekim [n=michael@04-073.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] sure [12:15] Riddell: if writer and calc crash with the same errors, do I file one bug or two? [12:15] one [12:15] and it's the same source package anyway === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] OK thanks, lots of stuff about glib and gdk whatever they are [12:17] gnome stuff [12:17] well it's b0rked :)