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| jml | I've just got two timeouts in a row submitting a bug to LP | 03:50 |
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| jml | OOPS-520D160 | 03:50 |
| ubotu | https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/520D160 | 03:50 |
| jml | make that three | 03:51 |
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| Hobbsee | PWill: the ops are *not* here to answer support questions if no one else has. the !ops trigger is not for that. | 04:13 |
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| PWill | Hobbsee: I believe that has already been made clear to me | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | good. | 04:26 |
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| PWill | ah | 04:27 |
| PWill | I was just very frustrated because Launchpad will not send me email, and I am sure that it is a problem on the LP side. | 04:27 |
| PWill | Since I can receive email from everyone else | 04:28 |
| kiko | PWill, have you tried using another email address? | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | fair enough, so you'd have to see an archive admin, not an op. | 04:28 |
| Hobbsee | hiya kiko | 04:28 |
| kiko | it may be that the canonical smtp server is blacklisted by your ISP, for instance | 04:28 |
| PWill | kiko: Well, the Ubuntu Mailing lists no longer send me email either | 04:28 |
| PWill | kiko: When I login, it says that my emails have been bouncing | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | which would be on the same smtp server....surely | 04:29 |
| kiko | PWill, then you already have the answer. | 04:29 |
| PWill | however, I am yet to see an incoming connection on my postfix logs | 04:29 |
| PWill | I just figured that someone that has ops would be an LP admin | 04:30 |
| PWill | but i've learned not to believe that | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | PWill: ubuntu is big enough that an op is not necessarily a developer, and is more likely than not a launchpad admin, as launchpad is closed source. | 04:31 |
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| PWill | Hobbsee: do you know how I can get in contact with someone that could help clear up this issue? | 04:32 |
| PWill | It is very frustrating | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | PWill: kiko is a launchpad guy | 04:33 |
| lifeless | PWill: you can file an answer request at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/ | 04:36 |
| lifeless | PWill: but as kiko says, its almost certainly not a launchpad issue. | 04:37 |
| lifeless | PWill: as its affecting the list server for you too. | 04:37 |
| Hobbsee | hiya lifeless | 04:38 |
| lifeless | hi Hobbsee | 04:38 |
| lifeless | congrat | 04:38 |
| lifeless | s | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | lifeless: thankyou :) | 04:38 |
| Hobbsee | lifeless: i'ts another step in world domination :) | 04:38 |
| kiko | heh | 04:46 |
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| jtv | Hey stub | 07:32 |
| stub | Yo | 07:32 |
| jtv | Went laptop-shopping yesterday. Ever seen the Linux that Acer preinstalls? | 07:37 |
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| lifeless | jtv: didn't know they did preinstalls | 08:03 |
| jtv | lifeless: they might as well not. No X, for starters! | 08:10 |
| jtv | And no device info, so lspci is just about useless. | 08:10 |
| jtv | Now *that* is something we need in Ubuntu: a live cd that tells you which features on a laptop will work, and tests the ones it doesn't know about. | 08:11 |
| lifeless | jtv: gutsy has that | 08:13 |
| lifeless | feisty has that if you run it by hand | 08:14 |
| jtv | cool! | 08:15 |
| jtv | Does it also give the user the option to submit his compatibility info? | 08:16 |
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| lifeless | jtv: yes | 08:48 |
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| carlos | morning | 09:13 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118607 in launchpad "Affects upstream triggers error page "duplicate" project not found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118607 | 09:50 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118609 in malone ""List related bugs" doesn't work on hosts other than bugs.launchpad.net" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118609 | 10:11 |
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| === Topic for #launchpad: Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ | Next developer meeting: Thu 7 June 2007, 1400UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 | ||
| === Topic (#launchpad): set by mpt at Thu May 31 16:05:30 2007 | ||
| ubotu | New bug: #118623 in launchpad "Hinder spambot registration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118623 | 12:45 |
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| pygi | any idea why LP is timing out all the time :-/ | 01:00 |
| siretart | pygi: works for me | 01:01 |
| pygi | siretart, offline now for maintenance | 01:02 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118625 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse sometimes hangs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118625 | 01:15 |
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| cprov | morning, guys | 02:07 |
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| popey | launchpad wearing bouncy trousers today? | 02:28 |
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| kiko | stub, Znarl: launchpad offline? | 02:31 |
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| pygi | kiko, not anymore it seems | 02:32 |
| pygi | kwwii, !!! :) | 02:32 |
| kwwii | is launchpad really down or am I doing something stupid? | 02:32 |
| kwwii | hi pygi :-) | 02:32 |
| pygi | kwwii, it seems it's back now ^_^ | 02:32 |
| pygi | but it was down | 02:32 |
| pygi | (or is it down again? :P) | 02:32 |
| pygi | seems so :-/ | 02:32 |
| kiko | maybe it's just one appserver | 02:32 |
| pygi | down again, yup | 02:33 |
| kwwii | well, I cannot register a new project, so at least that part is down | 02:33 |
| popey | been getting this on and off for a couple of hours | 02:33 |
| pygi | kwwii, now you can :P | 02:36 |
| kiko | some database work has been done | 02:37 |
| kiko | which is why we were having spotty perf | 02:37 |
| kiko | it's been stopped now | 02:37 |
| kiko | so things should be back to normal | 02:37 |
| popey | is it possible to take a bug that has been set as "fix released" in upstream and change that to "oh no it isn't" type status? | 02:38 |
| popey | bug 112552 | 02:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 112552 in apt-mirror "Packages containing a tilde are deleted by clean.sh" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112552 | 02:38 |
| popey | or does that come from upstream? | 02:39 |
| pochu | popey: if it's a bug watch, it comes from upstream, but you can change it to "Track the status here", so you can change status/importance | 02:40 |
| popey | as the upstream is an ubuntu person I'll leave it as tracking upstream and let them change it there, thanks | 02:40 |
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| popey | thank you | 02:42 |
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| kwwii | thanks, have fun! | 02:45 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118633 in launchpad "pofile import approver should connect as a different database user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118633 | 02:45 |
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| pygi | hey phanatic | 03:26 |
| phanatic | hey pygi :) | 03:27 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118638 in rosetta "Language pack export lacks some files that were exported before" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118638 | 03:30 |
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| jam-laptop | Hi all | 03:41 |
| jam-laptop | We have some more spam on the launchpad answers pages | 03:41 |
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| jam-laptop | https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/7363 | 03:42 |
| jam-laptop | This time they changed the actual question again | 03:42 |
| jam-laptop | hmm. maybe you already caught it | 03:42 |
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| dneary | Hi | 05:27 |
| dneary | I have a real world example of a need to roll back a translation, unfortunately | 05:27 |
| danilo_ | dneary: hi dave | 05:27 |
| dneary | Someone uploaded a .po based on a really old .pot file | 05:27 |
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| dneary | Hi danilos | 05:27 |
| dneary | And over-wrote a much more recent translation which was missing a few strings with one which 100% translated an outdated version :{ | 05:28 |
| danilos | dneary: we have to do that manually at the moment, so it's best if you file a question about it | 05:28 |
| danilos | dneary: hum, are you saying that someone overwrote translation done in Launchpad? | 05:28 |
| dneary | I don't even have an email address for the person for some reason - can't see it on their home page | 05:28 |
| dneary | danilos: I just downloaded the .po file (was going to convert & commit it) and saw there was a suspiciously large diff | 05:29 |
| danilos | dneary: can you point me at the translation so I take a look? | 05:29 |
| dneary | danilos: So I checked, and the POT creation date is October 2006 | 05:30 |
| dneary | danilos: cs for wengophone | 05:30 |
| danilos | dneary: ok, thanks | 05:30 |
| danilos | dneary: so, October 2006 is too old, right? | 05:30 |
| dneary | The product is open, we need to look at our permissions system, but that was deliberate | 05:30 |
| dneary | danilos: I updated the last .pot in April | 05:30 |
| danilos | dneary: right, ok, I'll take a look and see what we can do | 05:31 |
| dneary | Ah - hold on | 05:31 |
| dneary | POT-creation-date might not mean what I think it means | 05:31 |
| danilos | dneary: (as an aside, if you use intltool, it should mean what you think it means :) | 05:31 |
| dneary | danilos: We use linguist | 05:32 |
| danilos | but, wengophone is not gnome app, so probably doesn't use intltool anyway | 05:32 |
| dneary | danilos: So I have to manually convert from .ts to .po and back | 05:32 |
| dneary | Pain in the arse | 05:32 |
| danilos | dneary: btw, Launchpad should gracefully handle all this | 05:32 |
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| dneary | What's suspicious is a bunch of strings which are currently translated in our svn, which don't appear in the new .po files | 05:33 |
| dneary | Or which were translated, and now aren't | 05:33 |
| danilos | dneary: hum, that shouldn't happen, especially not since it says all messages are translated for Czech | 05:34 |
| danilos | (I am looking at trunk) | 05:34 |
| dneary | Example: "Use Yahoo! Japan server" <- Not in the .po files | 05:34 |
| dneary | Ah, bugger | 05:35 |
| dneary | I see the problem | 05:35 |
| dneary | The main branch is 2.1 | 05:35 |
| dneary | I was downloading trunk files | 05:35 |
| dneary | I have previously set the 2.1 branch as "the main development branch" | 05:36 |
| dneary | I guess that doesn't set it as the default translation branch | 05:36 |
| danilos | dneary: btw, karma summary for the 'jarda' guy shows only 7-8 translation suggestions approved, so that's how many should be changed anyway | 05:36 |
| danilos | I am not sure how that bit works, I'll have to check | 05:36 |
| dneary | We don't do any approval of translations - it's completely open | 05:36 |
| danilos | carlos: how does one set main translation branch? | 05:37 |
| danilos | dneary: have you considered using a translation group for wengophone? | 05:37 |
| dneary | danilos: Yes | 05:38 |
| danilos | dneary: (I think we already talked about it, so I am just checking :) | 05:38 |
| dneary | danilos: Considered it, haven't yet gotten around to doing it | 05:38 |
| danilos | dneary: ah, ok, surer | 05:39 |
| dneary | But don't worry, I understand the problem I was having - downloading the wrong branch wasn't good | 05:39 |
| danilos | dneary: right, I'll check up on what's wrong with the default branch as well, and I'll let you know | 05:39 |
| danilos | dneary: btw, POT should always stay what you uploaded, no matter what translators upload, so it should be a nice check for you (and if it isn't the same, it could even be our bug) | 05:41 |
| dneary | OK | 05:42 |
| dneary | I can trust that :) | 05:42 |
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| danilos | dneary: heh, thanks :) | 05:42 |
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| danilos | dneary: ok, this is a bug in Launchpad that we don't display templates from main development focus branch (but rather, first branch registered which has templates) | 05:50 |
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| danilos | dneary: bug #118663 if you want to track it | 05:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118663 in rosetta "Translation overview page doesn't show translations for the main development focus branch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118663 | 05:54 |
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| Rinchen | Hobbsee, congrats on "being Core" as beuno put it. :-) | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | Rinchen: thankyou :) | 05:56 |
| beuno | I thought it sounded cool :D | 05:57 |
| beuno | congrats Hobbsee | 05:57 |
| Rinchen | /nick Hobbsee Core | 05:57 |
| dneary | danilos: Thanks | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:58 |
| Hobbsee | Rinchen: what do you work on? launchpad? | 05:58 |
| pochu | beuno: you might want to do that for motus too ;) | 05:59 |
| Rinchen | Hobbsee, yes | 05:59 |
| danilos | Hobbsee: saying 'Rinchen works' is quite a stretch, though :) | 05:59 |
| beuno | pochu: I'd love to if someone would provide me with that information :D | 05:59 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 05:59 |
| pochu | beuno: I will :) | 05:59 |
| Rinchen | Most of the time I cause FUD for kiko-afk | 05:59 |
| pochu | beuno: or just subscribe to motu-council ML, if you prefer it. | 06:00 |
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| beuno | pochu: that might work too | 06:02 |
| beuno | btw, you're in Murcia, right? | 06:02 |
| pochu | Right | 06:02 |
| pochu | beuno: but if you don't want to subscribe to more ML, I'll keep you up-to-date :) | 06:02 |
| pochu | When somebody's approved. | 06:03 |
| beuno | pochu: we can try both :D | 06:03 |
| pochu | beuno: right :) | 06:03 |
| beuno | I'm going to be in murcia pro a couple of days the first days of july | 06:03 |
| pochu | I might be here :) | 06:04 |
| pochu | (though that's not for sure) | 06:04 |
| beuno | pochu: I'll email you when I know the exact date | 06:04 |
| pochu | Cool :) | 06:04 |
| beuno | I'll be bouncing around europe for about a month or so | 06:04 |
| beuno | debconf + visting clients | 06:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #118663 in rosetta "Translation overview page doesn't show translations for the main development focus branch" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118663 | 06:05 |
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| cypherbios | lunch hour :) | 06:13 |
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| dotwaffle | Wahey! My first bzr project created and uploaded to launchpad ;) | 07:26 |
| radix | hooray! | 07:26 |
| dotwaffle | my task for the rest of the day is to find documentation to help me produce a team for it ;) | 07:27 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118671 in soyuz "Changelog-Close feature tries to close already-closed bugs." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118671 | 07:35 |
| dotwaffle | If I've been publishing code to my own branch (for instance, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dotwaffle/samaritansrotagui/trunk) and I now want to make it team-based, is there a document to help me? I've found https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/TeamBranches but it deals with creating a branch rather than moving from solo development to team development. I've already created a team. | 07:41 |
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| dotwaffle | never mind, changed registrant - should be documentation on that though, I think | 07:44 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118673 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse broken by dirstate-tags" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118673 | 07:51 |
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| cypherbios | Someone could tell me how can I remove a team from Launchpad? | 08:00 |
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| salgado | cypherbios, that's currently not possible. there's a workaround, though | 08:01 |
| salgado | cypherbios, what's the team you want to get rid of? | 08:02 |
| cypherbios | salgado: ~ubuntu-br-garimpeiros | 08:02 |
| cypherbios | salgado: we are concentrated in ~ubuntu-br-doc now | 08:02 |
| matsubara | cypherbios: is that a team for serra pelada people? | 08:04 |
| cypherbios | ahhahaha | 08:04 |
| cypherbios | matsubara: almost | 08:04 |
| matsubara | :-) | 08:05 |
| salgado | cypherbios, you can remove all members and rename the team to something like 'deprecated-ubuntu-br-garimpeiros', also changing its description to state that | 08:05 |
| cypherbios | matsubara: it's for people who looks for content to wikify | 08:05 |
| cypherbios | salgado: ok, I'll do that. Thanks | 08:06 |
| salgado | cypherbios, then, if you want to get rid of your association with the team, you can reassign it to the 'registry' team | 08:06 |
| salgado | deleting teams is something very trick as there may be lots of things linked to a given team which we'll only find out when we try to delete the team | 08:07 |
| cypherbios | salgado: also It's better to change the policy to 'restricted' before reasign, isn't it? | 08:07 |
| salgado | yeah, that sounds like a good idea. it'll do no harm for sure | 08:07 |
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| cypherbios | salgado: everything is clean. It's yours (or maybe matsubara's) now ;) | 08:21 |
| salgado | heh. did you reassign it to me? | 08:22 |
| cypherbios | salgado: no no, 'registry' :) | 08:22 |
| salgado | oh, okay. :) | 08:22 |
| cypherbios | https://launchpad.net/~deprecated-ubuntu-br-garimpeiros/ | 08:22 |
| cypherbios | salgado: I forgot to change the homepage, but I think it's too late now | 08:22 |
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| salgado | you should still be an admin of that team | 08:23 |
| salgado | unless you kicked yourself out before reassigning | 08:23 |
| cypherbios | salgado: I leaved the team =/ | 08:27 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118653 in bzr "Need --no-backup flag or similar to upgrade remote repos on launchpad" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118653 | 09:00 |
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| beuno | quick question, why is this package not available for translation: https://translations.launchpad.net/pptpclient | 10:00 |
| beuno | or better yet. how can I help to get it on rosetta :D | 10:00 |
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| carlos | beuno: that URL is for use by pptpclient (do you mean pptp-ljnux?) developers | 10:03 |
| carlos | though, if you are interested on Ubuntu translations: this is the right URL https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/pptp-linux/ | 10:04 |
| beuno | carlos: nope nope, the actual ppptclient package | 10:04 |
| carlos | although we don't have translations either | 10:04 |
| carlos | hmm | 10:04 |
| beuno | that's what I was aiming at :D | 10:04 |
| carlos | ppptclient ? | 10:04 |
| beuno | yeap yeap | 10:04 |
| Kmos | !info pptclient | 10:05 |
| ubotu | Package pptclient does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas | 10:05 |
| carlos | I don't see that package | 10:05 |
| carlos | ubotu: thanks | 10:05 |
| ubotu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 10:05 |
| Kmos | :) | 10:05 |
| carlos | ;-) | 10:05 |
| beuno | argh, it might be in universe... | 10:05 |
| carlos | beuno: not with that name... | 10:05 |
| beuno | hmmmm | 10:05 |
| carlos | apt-cache search is not finding it either | 10:05 |
| beuno | you're actually right :D | 10:06 |
| beuno | I need to hunt down the name for it then | 10:06 |
| carlos | :-) | 10:06 |
| beuno | thanks carlos | 10:06 |
| carlos | np | 10:06 |
| beuno | it's pptp-linux | 10:07 |
| beuno | but there still aren't any translations | 10:08 |
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| beuno | and it's in main :D | 10:08 |
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| carlos | beuno: that package doesn't have any .po or .pot file | 10:09 |
| carlos | that's why it's not available to be translated in Launchpad | 10:10 |
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| carlos | good night | 10:19 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118698 in soyuz "Generate Release Files for PPA" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118698 | 10:45 |
| radix | hey awesome, thanks and congrats on the file download support guys | 10:46 |
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| jam-laptop | I just got more spam on: https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/7363 | 11:02 |
| jam-laptop | Can we just block pipa's account? | 11:03 |
| jam-laptop | mthaddon: ^^ | 11:03 |
| jam-laptop | do we need a "mark comment as spam" link? | 11:03 |
| mthaddon | jam-laptop: thx - will remove those comments and disable the user | 11:03 |
| jam-laptop | thanks mthaddon | 11:04 |
| mthaddon | np | 11:04 |
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| mthaddon | jam-laptop: those have been removed and the user disabled | 11:07 |
| jam-laptop | mthaddon: thanks again | 11:07 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #118708 in malone "Package maintainers can't set priorities of their own packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118708 | 12:00 |
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