[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #118570 in rhythmbox (main) "Keyboard navigation issues" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118570
[12:24] <bashelier> hey TheMuso :)
[12:24] <bashelier> oups
[12:25] <bashelier> wrong chan
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #118571 in Ubuntu "hibernate/suspend do not work upon turning computer back on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118571
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #118572 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel 2.6.20-16-generic does not mount luks partitions (cryptdisk-early)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118572
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118574 in yakuake (universe) "crash if i press F12" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118574
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118576 in adept (main) "properties crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118576
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118578 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Gutsy: Full Battery, GPM shuts down anyway." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118578
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118579 in evolution (main) "Unable to receive mail" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118579
[02:30] <theBishop> is there a fix for the newworld bug in the PS3 version of ubuntu?
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118580 in linux-meta (main) "IFB and tc actions support is missing from kernel builds/configurations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118580
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118581 in restricted-manager (main) "Firmware for broadcom cards should be included in restricted-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118581
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118582 in abiword (main) "Abiword file dialogs are not network ( share ) aware" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118582
[02:41] <jjesse> i'm sorry ubotu but no more new bug reports
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118583 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Boot problems in all kernels 2.6.20-13+" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118583
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118584 in beagle (main) "Consumes large amounts of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118584
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118586 in firefox (main) "Firefox halts keyboard scrolling after embedded Flash video" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118586
[04:12] <jgamio> i have a question the bug  #114125 affect openoffice when xfce4-clipman-plugin is used which one should be in Affects
[04:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114125 in openoffice.org "Clipboard manager in xfce4 does not handle some objects used in openoffice.org" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/114125
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118588 in linux-meta (main) "DHCP lease won't work after the latest feisty update (ipw3945)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118588
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118589 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  avant-window-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118589
[05:19] <killown> apt-get install tor return error invoke-rc.d: initscript tor, action "start" failed.dpkg: erro processando tor (--configure):
[05:19] <killown> bug?
[05:21] <crimsun> killown: hard to tell without seeing the rest of the dpkg spew.  Use http://pastebin.ca
[05:22] <persia> killown: It might be any of bugs 66069, 10770, or 108163.  If you could add some details showing exactly what broke to any of those, it would be a great help towards fixing it.
[05:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 66069 in tor "tor installation error" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/66069
[05:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 10770 in gnome-system-monitor "gnome-system-monitor: new changes from Debian require merging" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10770
[05:23] <persia> Sorry: 107770
[05:23] <killown> persia ok
[05:24] <killown> persia, crimsun http://pastebin.ca/535567
[05:27] <killown> persia, ?
[05:30] <persia> killown: Looking a bit more, it doesn't seem to be an issue with the maintainer script, more that tor is not starting for you.  I'm unable to duplicate locally with either feisty or gutsy (for an initial install).
[05:31] <killown> persia, then I go fix my source list for feisty
[05:33] <persia> killown: Which release are you running?  Perhaps I'm testing the wrong thing.
[05:33] <killown> persia, feisty
[05:33] <killown> but my source list have edgy repositories
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118591 in gnome-games (main) "Nibbles game won't play with 0 AI opponents" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118591
[05:35] <killown> persia, I have to set feisty repository only but get the same error
[05:37] <persia> killown: Did you get this error during an upgrade, or for a fresh install?
[05:38] <killown> persia, fresh install
[05:40] <crimsun> is /var full?
[05:40] <killown> ?
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118592 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "tomcat 5.5 does not start due to catalina.out fifo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118592
[05:48] <crimsun> killown: do you have sufficient free space on your /var partition?
[05:49] <killown> crimsun, yes
[05:50] <killown> 9,9G  4,7G  5,3G  48%
[05:50] <killown> 5,3 gb free
[05:50] <killown> mounted in /
[05:55] <persia> killown: You'd probably do best to file a bug, as it doesn't appear to match other reported installation failures..  You may be able to force the install by manually editing /etc/init.d/tor and running dpkg --configure, as  a step towards running with more debug output turned on (or running in a debugger), but the result may not meet your needs directly.
[05:55] <crimsun> ok, and ls -ld /var/run/tor
[05:56] <killown> ls -ld /var/run/tor
[05:56] <killown> ls: /var/run/tor: Arquivo ou diretrio inexistente
[05:56] <killown> Arquivo ou diretrio inexistente = file or directory absent
[05:58] <killown> crimsun, drwx------ 2 debian-tor debian-tor 40 2006-12-20 13:11 /var/run/tor
[05:58] <killown> I have installed tor again
[05:58] <killown> for do ls -ld /var/run/tor
[05:59] <crimsun> you said this is a fresh install of tor?
[05:59] <crimsun> that's a very odd timestamp for a fresh install of feisty.
[05:59] <killown> crimsun, in first install I get ir error
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118593 in gnome-panel (main) "mouse preferences acceleration not saving" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118593
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118594 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "VGA-console bright palette gets mixed up by splashscreen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118594
[06:02] <crimsun> killown: is your clock current?
[06:02] <killown> what?
[06:02] <killown> s ok
[06:02] <killown> a ok
[06:02] <killown> yes
[06:03] <killown> 13:11  dont
[06:03] <crimsun> `date -u`
[06:03] <killown> my current hour is 01:03
[06:03] <killown> Seg Jun  4 04:03:29 UTC 2007
[06:03] <killown> wrong hour
[06:04] <crimsun> no, that's correct in UTC.
[06:04] <killown> but in clock gnome show me right hour
[06:04] <killown> ok
[06:04] <crimsun> is it still broken?
[06:05] <killown> crimsun, yes
[06:05] <killown> apt-get -f install dont fix
[06:05] <crimsun> run tor by hand
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118595 in network-manager-pptp (universe) "no way to add 'search domain' option to resolv.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118595
[06:06] <killown> tor_init(): Reading config failed--see warnings above. For usage, try -h.
[06:06] <killown>  Couldn't access/create private data directory "/var/lib/tor"
[06:08] <crimsun> ok, so ls -ld /var/lib/tor
[06:08] <killown> drwxrwxrwx 3 debian-tor debian-tor 104 2007-06-04 00:57 /var/lib/tor
[06:09] <crimsun> world-writeable?  ...
[06:09] <killown> crimsun, yes
[06:10] <killown> chmor -R 777
[06:10] <killown> in tor/
[06:10] <crimsun> please --purge the package and reinstall it
[06:10] <killown> ok
[06:10] <crimsun> I want to see the permissions on a pristine /var/lib/tor
[06:10] <killown> did
[06:11] <killown> crimsun, /var/lib/tor was erased
[06:11] <crimsun> good.
[06:11] <killown> install tor again?
[06:11] <crimsun> you used dpkg -P (or apt-get --purge or aptitude purge), correct?
[06:12] <killown> dpkg --purge tor
[06:12] <crimsun> ok
[06:12] <crimsun> now reinstall it
[06:12] <killown> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:12] <killown> crimsun, same error
[06:13] <killown> Jun 04 01:12:56.612 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this user (root, 0) but by debian-tor (114). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?
[06:16] <crimsun> getent passwd debian-tor|awk -F: '{print $7}'
[06:17] <killown>  getent passwd debian-tor|awk -F: '{print $7}'
[06:17] <killown> crimsun, user debian-tor not exist
[06:18] <killown> getent passwd debian-tor|awk -F: '{print $7}'
[06:18] <killown> /bin/bash
[06:18] <crimsun> sorry, you've given two conflicting answers.  Which is correct?
[06:21] <killown> crimsun, user debian-tor not exist
[06:22] <crimsun> killown: ok, so where did `/bin/bash' come from?
[06:22] <killown> crimsun, result of getent
[06:23] <crimsun> ...ok, so the `debian-tor' user _does_ exist.
[06:23] <killown> yes
[06:24] <killown> I go add deb http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor <DISTRIBUTION> main
[06:24] <killown> and reinstall tor
[06:25] <killown> the same error
[06:26] <killown> Jun 04 01:26:17.183 [notice]  I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit.
[06:26] <killown> lol
[06:28] <crimsun> which DISTRIBUTION did you use?
[06:28] <killown> crimsun, feisty
[06:29] <crimsun> very odd.  I can't reproduce it on feisty or gutsy.
[06:30] <killown> ok
[06:30] <killown> I desist
[06:30] <killown> thanks a lot
[06:44] <ccm> where was the point where i can request adding of new bugtrackers to launchpad?
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118598 in Ubuntu "The computer isent able to power off while using the latest Ubuntu 7.04 live CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118598
[07:03] <ccm> found it, thank you
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118600 in nautilus (main) "Network connection says wrong thing." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118600
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118601 in Ubuntu "No more USB devices automount on Kernel 2.6.20.16" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118601
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118602 in pulseaudio (main) "Unable to effect alsamixer -c 0 changes when pulseaudio is active" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118602
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118603 in vmware-player (multiverse) "VMware player 2.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118603
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118604 in erlang (universe) "Please merge erlang (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118604
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #118605 in gdm (main) "Feisty freezes upon Logout or Switch user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118605
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #118606 in inventor (universe) "Please merge inventor (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118606
[09:53] <dholbach> good morning
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118608 in inventor (universe) "Please merge inventor (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118608
[10:18] <ssam> Bug #118458
[10:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118458 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Acer Aspire 1510LMi won't go to sleep or hibernate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118458
[10:19] <ssam> the requested information has now been posted
[10:19] <ccm> hi dholbach
[10:19] <ssam> so i set it from needs info, back to unconfirmed. is that right?
[10:20] <ssam> or is that enough info that i should set it to confirmed, and assign to the ubuntu-kernel-acpi team
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118610 in Ubuntu "[alsa-firmware]  tascam us428: one file is missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118610
[10:20] <ccm> ssam: i thought suspend-problems are better to filed under "acpi-support"
[10:23] <ssam> ccm, i am not sure, there is not guidance on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage
[10:24] <ccm> ssam: right, that should be added there, maybe some expert could advise us
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118612 in partman (main) "installer installs grub to hda when using guided partitioning for sda" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118612
[10:38] <dholbach> hi ccm
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118613 in Ubuntu "/etc/init.d/networking does not respect hwaddress" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118613
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118614 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No battery status for Acer TravelMate 3220 with 2.6.20-16-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118614
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118615 in Ubuntu "sudo cd <DIR> doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118615
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118617 in Ubuntu "There is no control panel for Synaptics touchpad in Kubuntu Feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118617
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118618 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice truncates X11's primary selection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118618
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118616 in wine (universe) "Please upload wine 0.9.38 with new maintainer" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118616
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118619 in pidgin (main) "empty buddy icon by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118619
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118624 in Ubuntu "clicking top menu highlights firefox icon" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118624
[01:13] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118627 in Ubuntu "I was testing again ubuntu-bug program but with normal user  and ubuntu-bug program crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118627
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118628 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice Calc does not resolve TTEST function when copied or reissued in another cell" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118628
[01:45] <fernando> moin all
[01:54] <pochu> !tags is We use some common tags for the bugs. Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags to know them.
[01:58] <pochu> !tags
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tags - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <persia> pochu: Ubotu is moderated.  Wait a bit :)
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118629 in dbus (main) "libdbus-1-dev files in wrong place" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118629
[02:08] <pochu> persia: yeah, I've read it in the wiki. Do you know whether the factoid will be added to all the channels, or just to this one?
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118630 in f-spot (main) "f spot photo app freezes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118630
[02:11] <persia> pochu: My understanding is that factoids reside in the bot, and apply to all channels on which the bot is active, but I'm not 100% sure.
[02:14] <pochu> I think there's a factoid which applies here but not in other channels
[02:14] <pochu> !importance
[02:14] <ubotu> You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[02:15] <pochu> Doesn't work in other channels ^
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118631 in openoffice.org (main) "Open office crashes when trying to view a slideshow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118631
[02:21] <persia> pochu: Interesting...
[02:24] <pochu> I've missed sometimes !tags in #u-motu
[02:25] <persia> !tags
[02:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tags - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <BugMaN> There is someone of doc team?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> pochu: you cant add factoids
[02:28] <persia> !tags
[02:28] <ubotu> We use some common tags for tracking bugs on Launchpad.net See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags for common usage.
[02:28] <pochu> :)
[02:29] <persia> gnomefreak: Just /msg ubotu, and in your conversation, say foo is bar.  The factoid will be submitted for moderation, and possibly added.
[02:30] <gnomefreak> persia: i can add them
[02:31] <persia> gnomefreak: Well, if you're a moderator, then... :)
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i am
[03:08] <RainCT> how can I go on with bug 118620?
[03:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118620 in human-icon-theme "Icons unification and space at sides" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118620
[03:13] <persia> RainCT: I don't think any more information can be usefully collected.  If you can observe the difference between the submitted png files, it may be set to confirmed.  If you understand how the icon themes work, and can make the necessary adjustment, a patch would be welcome.
[03:14] <RainCT> persia: ok thanks
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #118636 in Ubuntu "command line display error after history search (CTRL+R)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118636
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118641 in rhythmbox (main) ""Unknown" displayed instead of tags" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118641
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118642 in firefox (main) "Memory leak" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118642
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118643 in Ubuntu "please sync claws-mail from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118643
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118644 in hal (main) "Missing hal-luks-setup scripts in hal package (Edgy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118644
[04:27] <demolitio> I don't know If i've joined the right channel, but i'm experiencing a very annoying issue,,, I just clean installed kubuntu 7.04, and everything was working pefectly. I booted into my windows install, then came back to it later, and now I don't have any sound. kmix is configured properly, all sliders are at max.... just no sound.
[04:30] <ScottK> demolitio: Try #kubuntu
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118645 in Ubuntu "amarok 1.4.5 crashes desktop on Ubuntu Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118645
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118646 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "short temporary lockup on resume: ata1.00: exception Emask" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118646
[04:31] <demolitio> just posted there.
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118647 in libapache-mod-jk (universe) "Mod JK fails to create its status file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118647
[04:31] <demolitio> thanks.
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118648 in Ubuntu "kubuntu screensaver dosn't start during shutdown menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118648
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118649 in libapache-mod-jk (universe) "Provide a default jk.conf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118649
[04:54] <Hobbsee> Bug #117314
[04:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117314 in linux-source-2.6.20 "latest kernel(2.6.20-16.28) update gives boot problems" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117314
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118654 in thunderbird (main) "loading qemu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118654
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118655 in acidrip (multiverse) "control file for acidrip has wrong homepage for project" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118655
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118657 in gdm (main) "default background colour is blue in gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118657
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118658 in Ubuntu "distro partial upgrade crash - exit code 16" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118658
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118659 in pycurl (main) "PyCurl 7.15.5 not working on AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118659
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #97171 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythfrontend crashed in munmap_chunk() when stopping playback" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97171
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> morning everyone
[06:32] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: morning
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: it seems the <inherets> tag in totem's clue file pulls out tag state clue file.
[06:36] <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: it's "inherits"
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> yes that...
[06:36] <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: what are you trying to do and what happens?
[06:36] <dholbach> I'm not sure I understand
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: take a look at http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/totem.html . the totem clue seems to be be saying the totem bugs have wrong tags
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> even on bugs like bug 108261
[06:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108261 in totem "mp3 audio volume goes up and down" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108261
[06:37] <dholbach> totem seems to inherit from firefox
[06:37] <dholbach> so the firefox clues are used on totem bugs
[06:37] <dholbach> not sure there's something wrong with taht
[06:38] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: if you look at the firefox clue files, they refence specific tags used by the MT team, mt-confirm for example
[06:38] <dholbach> yes
[06:39] <asac> dholbach: how is rule inheriting done?
[06:39] <asac> clue i mean :)
[06:40] <dholbach> a inherits from b: b's clue files are tried on a's bugs
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> so doesn't that mean totem will check for bugs tags using firefox's rules?
[06:40] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118667 in Ubuntu "xorg consumes a huge amount of memory" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118667
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118668 in Ubuntu "cdrom mounted to /media/<label> instead of /media/cdrom" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118668
[06:41] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: thats what you see in totem result :)
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: thats why i ask :)
[06:42] <asac> i guess inherits should either import only "derivable clues" or inherits should get more attributes that allow you to specify which clues to inherit
[06:42] <asac> I think the former
[06:43] <asac> e.g. clues get an attribute "inheratable="true/false""
[06:43] <asac> inheritable :)
[06:43] <asac> dholbach: what is the use-case for the inherits feature?
[06:44] <asac> dholbach: you want to detect wrong package assignments?
[06:44] <dholbach> yes
[06:44] <dholbach> for stuff like   ubiquity -> partman   stuff you can find in logs, it's really useful
[06:45] <asac> dholbach: is it obvious when you write clues if they might be suitable for bad package assignments? e.g. would a "inheritable" attribute for clues help?
[06:46] <dholbach> hrm
[06:46] <dholbach> not sure
[06:46] <asac> you have examples of partman/ubiquity clues that match this kind of bugs?
[06:47] <Admiral_Chicago> there are clues we have specific to something like installing firefox extensions. those would probably not be best to inherit
[06:47] <dholbach> asac: no, but there are some others - it was just an example
[06:51] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: you wanna look how easy clues with inheritable="false" might be excluded when wading through inherited clue files?
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> can we use that flag?
[06:52] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: we can use it if we want to I guess ... we can decide that default is "true" so current behaviour does not change
[06:53] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: i understant that, but my question is if that is a valid state to use for <inherit>
[06:55] <dholbach> asac: we don't have that feature yet
[06:55] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: you talk about the code now?
[06:55] <dholbach> asac: best to coordinate with thekorn
[06:55] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: i meant if you wanna look at the python code and see how easy that would be
[06:55] <asac> dholbach: sure
[06:57] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: otherwise we should file a bug to discuss with thekorn
[07:01] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: bbiab
[07:01] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: sure
[07:13] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: ping
[07:21] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: pong?
[07:23] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: sorry that was eddie...wanted to ask abou CODLuG
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: back...
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i can take a look at the code, i think i have the latest code pulled, i'll pull again to be sure
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll also talk to Markus about this
[07:24] <asac> great
[07:31] <coNP> hi pochu
[07:31] <pochu> Hey coNP, how are you? :)
[07:32] <coNP> getting better... I finished my thesis last week
[07:32] <coNP> now there are some final exams left :(
[07:32] <pochu> coNP: Good luck :)
[07:33] <coNP> thanks :)
[07:45] <pochu> Hey bdmurray :)
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118672 in Ubuntu "Upgrade deluge" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118672
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: around?
[07:51] <thekorn> Admiral_Chicago: hi, yes
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: i figured it out, sorry. thanks anyways
[07:53] <asac> thekorn: any objection to inheritable="true/false" attribute to individual clues?
[07:53] <asac> thekorn: default would be "true" for now, so current clue files won't change behaviour
[07:54] <thekorn> asac: I'm just reading the discussion
[07:55] <asac> point is that some clues just make no sense to inherit
[07:55] <thekorn> asac: I agree
[07:55] <asac> (actually i think on the long run we should switch default to "false" as most clues are not suitable for inherits
[07:55] <asac> )
[07:55] <asac> but we can a closer look when we have more experience
[07:55] <asac> anyway, the idea is to add an xml attribute called 'inheritable' to clue nodes
[07:56] <asac> thekorn: we would develop a fix and show you for review, ok? just wanted to get your feedback ... maybe you have a much smarter idea and so we can go directly the other way :)
[07:58] <thekorn> asac: ok, cool,
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> yep, we are reviewing the code now.
[08:00] <asac> thekorn: one idea would be to filter the .clues before "updating" in http://pastebin.ca/537191
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118675 in Ubuntu "font anti-alias setup hightlights all options when closing the "details" window" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118675
[08:00] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: go on.
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: so we are looking at the bughelper code.
[08:01] <red_herring> where can i get that
[08:01] <red_herring> as the first matter of business
[08:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118674 in Ubuntu "Forum wird auf dem Portal nicht im Men verlinkt" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118674
[08:01] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: svn? cvs? apt-source?
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> there is a case <inherit> which grabs clues from other packages.
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: bzr
[08:02] <red_herring> link?
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install bughelper
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/doc/getting-started?action=show&redirect=BugHelper%2Fdoc
[08:02] <red_herring> wouldn't it be best to get the Latest code?
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> you are on BugSquad right?
[08:02] <thekorn> asac: the problem is that we dont know anything about the attributes of a node at that point
[08:04] <asac> thekorn: so clues don't carry high level clue objects?
[08:05] <asac> thekorn: what kind of structures are inside .clues ?
[08:05] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: ?
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: so the point is that inherits pulls all clue file regardless of if they are useful. for example. totem pulls firefox but there are some special cases that totem doesn't need
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> follow?
[08:06] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: i dont even know what a clue file is.
[08:06] <red_herring> heh
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: a search based on predefined patterns we give
[08:08] <red_herring> k, so whats the problem?
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> so look at totem and firefox's clue file.
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sec...
[08:08] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: wehre do i find them?
[08:08] <asac> thekorn: are bugClue instance inside .clues?
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: http://pastebin.ca/527337 http://pastebin.ca/537259
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> you'll see totem inherits firefox but Fx has some special tag checking based on the Mozilla Teams bug tag.
[08:10] <red_herring> yeah
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> so when a cron job runs and checks the clue files http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/totem.html it says they have the wrong tags
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> see?
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #118676 in Ubuntu "All menus disappear when swapping desktops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118676
[08:11] <thekorn> asac: sorry, there was a phone call...
[08:11] <asac> np
[08:14] <thekorn> asac: yeah, I think I have an idea, just give me some minutes
[08:14] <asac> k
[08:14] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: k so what you're saying
[08:14] <red_herring> is that its generating bad tags?
[08:15] <Admiral_Chicago> red_herring: for totem yes. it says they are tagged improperly even on bugs that are untagged
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> because it inherited firefox's tag checking clue
[08:16] <red_herring> ahhhhh
[08:16] <red_herring> Admiral_Chicago: you see the second half of the firefox clue file?
[08:16] <red_herring> #
[08:16] <red_herring> #
[08:16] <red_herring>     <info doc="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States">Wrong Status/Tag-Combination for Status 'Needs Info'</info>
[08:16] <red_herring> #
[08:16] <red_herring> oh shit, sorry about that paste
[08:17] <red_herring>     <task doc="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States">tag bug according to policy</task>
[08:17] <red_herring> i thought that was 2 lines
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> its okay, language is a bigger problem :)
[08:17] <shadowpool> I think I found a feisty bug
[08:18] <red_herring> .... oh *crap*
[08:18] <Admiral_Chicago> so we are looking at the current code and trying to fix it by adding something like "inheritable=false"
[08:19] <red_herring> well, what engine is bugbuddy using to read the xml files?
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118677 in kde-guidance (main) "connected to vnc server using tightvnc client from windows xp client" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118677
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118678 in gdm (main) "Can't force silent login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118678
[08:22] <shadowpool> If you go full screen in eog then close the laptop screen, your screen is supposed to lock.  It doesn't--when you open the laptop your screen doesn't appear to be locked but your mouse buttons don't work.  You can only close eog by pressing alt+f4.  Then you have to close the laptop screen again, after closing eog, to get to the locked screen password prompt to type your password and be allowed to use the mouse  buttons again
[08:25] <shadowpool> It seems to only do this if you click during full screen after opening the laptop screen.  Otherwise, you can hit escape and it goes to the locked screen password prompt.
[08:31] <thekorn> asac, Admiral_Chicago : i think I found a solution for the inheritable - clue- problem, it works, but  iit should not be the best solution
[08:31] <thekorn> will clean the code and publish it soon
[08:31] <asac> thekorn: elaborate so we can share your thoughts
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: great let us know
[08:33] <asac> thekorn: would be nice to discuss things ... e.g. what syntax you use, etc.
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> err see it* when its done
[08:34] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: yeah ... but not the best way to serve the greater good :)
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> bug 71712
[08:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 71712 in firefox "firefox crash [@NSSRWLock_UnlockRead]  [@__PK11_CreateContextByRawKey] " [High,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71712
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118680 in rhythmbox (main) "shuffle not random" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118680
[08:37] <thekorn> asac, Admiral_Chicago: I would really like to discuss this, but I have to leave now, sorry,
[08:38] <thekorn> but here is the diff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24104/
[08:38] <asac> thekorn: k
[08:38] <asac> thekorn: ok so you chose the "attribute" approach
[08:38] <asac> thanks
[08:39] <thekorn> i think that's the easiest way,
[08:40] <thekorn> ok I'm off for some sport :)
[08:40] <asac> thekorn: have fun
[08:40] <thekorn> jup, thanks
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #118681 in xresprobe (main) "resolution on monitor is wrong. Set to 1024x768, should be 1280x960" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118681
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> looking
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118682 in banshee (universe) "Banshee crashes loading image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118682
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #118686 in vmware-player (multiverse) "vmware-config.pl is missing from vmware-player" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118686
[09:27] <timing> Hey i'm running gutsy gibbon and have some problems writing to my swap partition. everytime when my memory is almost full, all the memory allocation is still done on the RAM. Then, when the ram is completely full and more mem is needed, my system freezes. I need to reset my laptop to continue. could this be a bug in the kernel? or should i just ask this in #ubuntu?
[09:27] <pochu> s/#ubuntu/#ubuntu+1/
[09:27] <Burgundavia> timing: please file a bug and ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:27] <pochu> But it might be a bug, I don't know
[09:27] <timing> ohw +1 sounds better
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> bug 103250
[09:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 103250 in firefox "[Feisty]  Firefox Crash [@ nsCOMPtr_base::assign_with_AddRef ] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103250
[09:38] <red_herring> k umm
[09:38] <red_herring> i dunno if this is a bug
[09:38] <red_herring> wait its not nvm
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm just using the bot..
[09:39] <red_herring> no no
[09:39] <red_herring> i thought i had a kde bug
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118590 in firefox (main) "firefox se cierra en naegacion" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118590
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118687 in sound-juicer (main) "gstreamer error when using improper characters in file/track name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118687
[09:42] <Kmos> Admiral_Chicago: "finished at navigation".. something like that
[09:43] <Kmos> finished = crashed
[09:43] <Kmos> =)
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> closed while negoiating
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118689 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes my system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118689
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118690 in at-spi (main) "at-spi fails to relay messages between user sessions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118690
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118692 in file-roller (main) "Failure while unpacking with a password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118692
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118695 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  gnome hangs when trying to log out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118695
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118696 in firefox (main) "Return from fullscreen disables minimize, maximize and window close buttons." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118696
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118697 in Ubuntu "Symfony 1.0.x in gutsy?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118697
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118699 in klavaro (universe) "Please sync klavaro (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118699
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118700 in mythplugins "mytharchive fails with python error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118700
[11:08] <thekorn> asac, Admiral_Chicago: is there a reason why firefox.info was removed from the bughelper-data branch?
[11:10] <asac> not that i know
[11:10] <asac> who did that?
[11:11] <thekorn> looking
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> thekorn: there was a conflict which we couldn't resolve, apparently it got nixed when we were looking to resolve the conflict
[11:11] <Admiral_Chicago> it was Jen i think...
[11:11] <JenFraggle> sorry guys
[11:11] <thekorn> "Jennifer Ockwell"
[11:12] <thekorn> ah, ok,
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hehe, it's okay. you still have the latest one Jen?
[11:12] <asac> no problem :)
[11:12] <Admiral_Chicago> asac thekorn: we'll get it back in soon.
[11:13] <asac> the only thing that one never ever is allowed to do is use --override
[11:13] <asac> on push
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd like to make one fix to it.
[11:13] <JenFraggle> i did the commit and it said it worked
[11:13] <asac> hehe
[11:13] <asac> that would be fantastic
[11:13] <asac> would instantly ask for extra holiday ... hey wait :)
[11:13] <thekorn> haha
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118701 in Ubuntu "synaptic package manager error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118701
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118702 in kile (universe) "Dependency to tetex" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118702
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> asac thekorn: commited firefox's file back in
[11:26] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: thx
[11:26] <thekorn> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118703 in Ubuntu "LImewire basic is not running." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118703
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #118704 in Ubuntu "limewire is not working." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118704
[11:53] <ubotu> New bug: #118705 in mythtv (multiverse) "Gutsy MythTV depends on ntp-simple, which don't exist" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118705
[11:53] <superm1> Hi everyone, I was wondering if members on my team (ubuntu-mythtv) could be given permissions to categorize priorities of bugs in our own packages?  Or do we *need* to be part of ubuntu-qa to do such things?
[11:53] <pochu> superm1: you need to be in ubuntu-qa.
[11:53] <pochu> superm1: You can file a bug against malone if you think that's a bug :)
[11:53] <superm1> haha.  thanks pochu :)
[11:53] <Kmos> bug/suggestion :)
[11:53] <pochu> Kmos: yeah :)
[11:53] <pochu> superm1: np
[11:54] <ScottK> superm1: If you get MOTU, that'll do it too.
[11:54] <superm1> well for me at least, but there are others on the team too that i'd like to be able to do so
[11:55] <ScottK> ubuntu-qa isn't that hard.
[11:55] <superm1> bug 118708 has been filed at least now
[11:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118708 in malone "Package maintainers can't set priorities of their own packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118708
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118706 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "TI SD Card reader doesn't work on LG laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118706
[11:59] <superm1> pochu took your suggestion and filed a bug on malone while you were out
[12:03] <bdmurray> that Ti reader is likely a duplicate
[12:03] <pochu> Bug #118708
[12:03] <pochu> superm1: Cool, gonna subscribe :)
[12:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118708 in malone "Package maintainers can't set priorities of their own packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118708
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118709 in mplayer (multiverse) "In GMplayer "x" and "z" buttons functions not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118709