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poningruquick question, is the gutsy kernel currently the .22 rc or are we still on .21?12:37
poningruneed it for tribe1 walkthrough12:40
crimsunthe latest, 6.13, merged 22-rc312:42
crimsunit's noted in the changelog.12:42
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:crimsun] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-6.13 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels removed, failures in patch | linux-meta uploaded for gutsy 2.6.22 kernels. | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/
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BenCcrimsun: thanks12:50
poningruawesome12:51
poningruthanks12:51
BenCand 6.13 will definitely be what tribe1 gets released with12:51
poningruanother question: will SLUB be used?01:12
BenCit already is01:13
BenChas been for a few weeks now01:13
poningruawesome01:14
poningruthanks01:14
BenCnp01:14
BenCponingru: since you're doing release notes, please add in there that all of our third party modules and added firmware have moved to linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22, and that users need to ensure that they have linux meta packages installed for proper upgrades01:15
poningrusweet will put that under upgrade notes01:15
BenCmainly linux-generic01:15
BenCthanks01:15
poningru:D01:16
poningrunp01:16
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poningrucan you guys look over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutstyGibbon/Tribe1#head-8a02e12763c54b7c8a328619650ce2e38f78d93c02:37
poningrusee if its ok?02:37
poningruthanks :)02:38
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poningru...05:21
poningrucan someone check?05:21
crimsunit -is- Sunday night or very early Monday morning for most devels05:22
crimsunbut sure, I'll once-over it, though I'm by no means comprehensive for all changes.05:22
crimsunponingru: would you like me to outline suggestions in #ubuntu-doc or just make changes?05:27
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poningrueither or05:36
poningrubut I can do it05:36
poningrucrimsun: 05:36
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poningruyeah I guess it can wait till later05:37
crimsunponingru: ok, I'll edit it.05:40
poningrugracias05:41
crimsunedited.05:45
crimsun(also may wish to mention continuing work with powersaving: install powertop from universe)05:48
poningruonly available in gutsy right?05:55
crimsuncorrect, but you -are- writing Tribe1 notes, so...06:00
poningruright just making sure feisty features done make it in there 06:02
poningruthanks man :D06:02
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jmlIs it likely that bug 117864 will be fixed in Feisty?07:56
jmli.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/11786407:57
crimsunit's missing `dmesg` at least.08:00
jmlcrimsun: ok. I'll supply that soon.08:09
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tepsipakkihey, according to debian bug 424975 the fglrx driver now supports xserver 1.3, could we get this in before main is frozen for tribe 1?08:44
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krautmoin08:57
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dimon08hi all?10:25
dimon08!10:25
dimon08why are there so many bugs in the 2.6.20-16 kernel?10:26
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zulmorning02:05
aboganizul: morning02:10
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Mithrandirisn't the 1068 supposed to just work with feisty?02:29
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toad165A question about disk buffer cache in linux kernel: Is it possible to disable them completely?03:39
mjg59Read or write?03:42
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toad165to repeat the question: Is it possible to completely disable disk buffer cache in linux kernel?03:47
Keybuk<mjg59> Read or write03:48
mjg59And do you mean the disk cache or the kernel cache?03:48
toad165disk cache03:48
toad165I am running kernel inside the simulator03:48
toad165and want to disable caching of the kernel03:49
toad165That is the cache of disk blocks recenly read/written03:49
mjg59Then no03:49
mjg59You can flush it03:49
toad165Okey03:50
toad165thanks03:50
mjg59With /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches03:50
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iwjAnyone here who'd like to comment on a crazy crazy plan I'm concocting ?06:23
iwjIt's for a weird kind of test harness.  The basic idea is to have the kernel kmalloc a huge buffer and write some trace information into it in a circular buffer style.  It would be read out later by using /dev/mem.06:24
iwjHow big a piece of contiguous ram can I allocate this way ?06:25
iwjAnd as a not-currently-kernel-hacker how doomed am I ?  (I've done dev work on unix kernels in the past so I'm not completely ignorant)06:28
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iwjhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/full-filesystem-sanity-gutsy is the relevant spec; wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootLoginWithFullFilesystem.07:16
iwjI'd appreciate comments from you guys ...07:16
mjg59Hm. It's an interesting idea.07:18
mjg59I kind of wonder whether a ramfs based solution would be possible07:19
mjg59kmalloc isn't a great plan. Stuff allocated that way is unswappable.07:20
mjg59I'm also not sold on the requirement for it to be contiguous. Providing some method for dumping it out of the kernel would be easy enough07:21
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maks_do you guys deploy nouveau already?10:42
kylemno.10:44
kylemairlied asked me not to because they hadn't decided to freeze their drm abi.10:44
kylem... then fedora went and did it.10:44
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kylemanyway, keeping xf86-video-nouveau and kernel driver in sync would be a massive pain in my ass.10:46
maks_ok and how is the fedora feedback?10:48
kylemno clue.10:48
kylemthe thought of building the kernel modules externally and shipping them with the X driver occured to me, and i did a bit of work on it, but i don't think nouveau is ready for a deluge of user bug reports.10:49
maks_22:51 <jima> fedora 7 shipped with nouveau, iirc, but not enabled by default.10:50
maks_so will gone unnoticed mostly10:51
kylemyeah10:51
kylem'nv' is improving a bit recently.10:51
kylemso perhaps nvidia is trying to deflect some criticism.10:51
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maks_kylem fedora says to have added sparse as build req *cool*11:15
kylemhmm. interesting.11:16
kylemlinus hasn't relicensed sparse, has he?11:16
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maks_would mean trouble as in debian sparse landed in non-free afair11:16
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