[12:37] quick question, is the gutsy kernel currently the .22 rc or are we still on .21? [12:40] need it for tribe1 walkthrough [12:42] the latest, 6.13, merged 22-rc3 [12:42] it's noted in the changelog. === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:crimsun] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-6.13 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels removed, failures in patch | linux-meta uploaded for gutsy 2.6.22 kernels. | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ === jml [n=jml@CPE-124-177-23-81.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:50] crimsun: thanks [12:51] awesome [12:51] thanks [12:51] and 6.13 will definitely be what tribe1 gets released with [01:12] another question: will SLUB be used? [01:13] it already is [01:13] has been for a few weeks now [01:14] awesome [01:14] thanks [01:14] np [01:15] poningru: since you're doing release notes, please add in there that all of our third party modules and added firmware have moved to linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22, and that users need to ensure that they have linux meta packages installed for proper upgrades [01:15] sweet will put that under upgrade notes [01:15] mainly linux-generic [01:15] thanks [01:16] :D [01:16] np === cofeineSunshine [n=justinas@85.206.218.220] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pkl [n=phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@121.44.221.232] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:37] can you guys look over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutstyGibbon/Tribe1#head-8a02e12763c54b7c8a328619650ce2e38f78d93c [02:37] see if its ok? [02:38] thanks :) === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.100] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fs [i=fs@213.178.77.100] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:21] ... [05:21] can someone check? [05:22] it -is- Sunday night or very early Monday morning for most devels [05:22] but sure, I'll once-over it, though I'm by no means comprehensive for all changes. [05:27] poningru: would you like me to outline suggestions in #ubuntu-doc or just make changes? === cofeineSunshine [n=justinas@88.118.214.132] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:36] either or [05:36] but I can do it [05:36] crimsun: === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-73-159.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:37] yeah I guess it can wait till later [05:40] poningru: ok, I'll edit it. [05:41] gracias [05:45] edited. [05:48] (also may wish to mention continuing work with powersaving: install powertop from universe) [05:55] only available in gutsy right? [06:00] correct, but you -are- writing Tribe1 notes, so... [06:02] right just making sure feisty features done make it in there [06:02] thanks man :D === cofeineSunshine [n=justinas@85.206.218.104] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === n2diy [n=darryl@66.212.43.146] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === avp [n=paul_alk@125.134.23.31] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === avp [n=paul_alk@125.134.23.31] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === avp [n=paul_alk@125.134.23.31] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === avp [n=paul_alk@125.134.23.31] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:56] Is it likely that bug 117864 will be fixed in Feisty? [07:57] i.e. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/117864 [08:00] it's missing `dmesg` at least. [08:09] crimsun: ok. I'll supply that soon. === abogani [n=alessio@adsl203-157-083.mclink.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:44] hey, according to debian bug 424975 the fglrx driver now supports xserver 1.3, could we get this in before main is frozen for tribe 1? === Lure [n=lure@212.103.157.25] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:57] moin === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml_ [n=jml@121.44.221.232] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === justinas_ [n=justinas@88.118.176.165] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dimon08 [n=dimon@gw.nsib.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:25] hi all? [10:25] ! [10:26] why are there so many bugs in the 2.6.20-16 kernel? === blenderhead [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@host86-136-58-86.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === justinas_ is now known as cofeineSunshine === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491D3AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure_ [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@ds9.pcode.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-kernel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-6.13 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels removed, failures in patch | linux-meta uploaded for gutsy 2.6.22 kernels. | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by crimsun at Mon Jun 4 00:42:24 2007 === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:05] morning [02:10] zul: morning === Mithrandir scratches his head over this LSI/megaraid card. [02:29] isn't the 1068 supposed to just work with feisty? === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@gn-216-166-171-58.mtwireless.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === toad165 [n=cbc82324@host112.toad-host.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@cl-185.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:39] A question about disk buffer cache in linux kernel: Is it possible to disable them completely? [03:42] Read or write? === toad165 [n=cbc82324@host112.toad-host.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === toad165 [n=cbc82324@host112.toad-host.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:47] to repeat the question: Is it possible to completely disable disk buffer cache in linux kernel? [03:48] Read or write [03:48] And do you mean the disk cache or the kernel cache? [03:48] disk cache [03:48] I am running kernel inside the simulator [03:49] and want to disable caching of the kernel [03:49] That is the cache of disk blocks recenly read/written [03:49] Then no [03:49] You can flush it [03:50] Okey [03:50] thanks [03:50] With /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42809.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-178.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-178.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cofeineSunshine [n=justinas@88.118.179.119] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-73-159.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:23] Anyone here who'd like to comment on a crazy crazy plan I'm concocting ? [06:24] It's for a weird kind of test harness. The basic idea is to have the kernel kmalloc a huge buffer and write some trace information into it in a circular buffer style. It would be read out later by using /dev/mem. [06:25] How big a piece of contiguous ram can I allocate this way ? [06:28] And as a not-currently-kernel-hacker how doomed am I ? (I've done dev work on unix kernels in the past so I'm not completely ignorant) === amitk [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:16] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/full-filesystem-sanity-gutsy is the relevant spec; wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootLoginWithFullFilesystem. [07:16] I'd appreciate comments from you guys ... [07:18] Hm. It's an interesting idea. [07:19] I kind of wonder whether a ramfs based solution would be possible [07:20] kmalloc isn't a great plan. Stuff allocated that way is unswappable. [07:21] I'm also not sold on the requirement for it to be contiguous. Providing some method for dumping it out of the kernel would be easy enough === Cheka [n=Cheka@ina044000021.lancs.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-178.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-118-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491E26A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-178.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:42] do you guys deploy nouveau already? [10:44] no. [10:44] airlied asked me not to because they hadn't decided to freeze their drm abi. [10:44] ... then fedora went and did it. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:46] anyway, keeping xf86-video-nouveau and kernel driver in sync would be a massive pain in my ass. [10:48] ok and how is the fedora feedback? [10:48] no clue. [10:49] the thought of building the kernel modules externally and shipping them with the X driver occured to me, and i did a bit of work on it, but i don't think nouveau is ready for a deluge of user bug reports. [10:50] 22:51 fedora 7 shipped with nouveau, iirc, but not enabled by default. [10:51] so will gone unnoticed mostly [10:51] yeah [10:51] 'nv' is improving a bit recently. [10:51] so perhaps nvidia is trying to deflect some criticism. === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:15] kylem fedora says to have added sparse as build req *cool* [11:16] hmm. interesting. [11:16] linus hasn't relicensed sparse, has he? === luka74 [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:16] would mean trouble as in debian sparse landed in non-free afair === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-178.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater_ [n=sacater@86.154.52.150] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater_ [n=sacater@86.154.52.150] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater_ [n=sacater@86.154.52.150] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater_ [n=sacater@86.154.52.150] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel