[12:28] hmum. [12:28] i think you got me [12:28] scsi burner [12:28] that your ripping from? [12:29] yeah, actually thats fron a cd rip session "music" nothing in there abt the dvd rip job [12:29] thats from /var/log/messages [12:29] looking at backend now. [12:29] have you tried again [12:29] to see if it failed in the same place [12:29] abt to [12:29] I'd also try a different DVD [12:29] which makes me think of two other questions, probably much simpler [12:30] how can I make Ubuntu NOT autorun when I put in a dcd or cd? [12:30] I rip my DVD's at my desktop and I have come accross a few that wouldn't rip [12:30] 2. I still have a problem with my screen turning black after a while. I have screensaver off and dmps off in xorg. [12:30] system>preferences>removable drives and media [12:31] tgm4883: I'll try a diff dvd [12:31] a5benwillis, my buddy had the same issue [12:31] do you have gnome-power-manager installed? [12:32] do LCD's get burn in? [12:32] they shouldnt [12:32] superm1: I dont think so [12:32] a5benwillis, check and see if you do [12:32] if its installed, its the likely culpri [12:33] it is installed. hum [12:33] removing [12:33] umm [12:33] . [12:34] Removing ubuntu-desktop ... [12:34] Removing gnome-session ... [12:34] Removing gnome-power-manager ... [12:34] that doesnt look good [12:34] Well you didnt let me finish :) [12:34] hmm, dont know what gnome-session is [12:34] superm1: LOL [12:34] *if* its installed, it overrides DPMS and screensaver settings [12:34] guess I should put those back, eh [12:34] yes [12:35] are you booting into a standalone frontend? [12:35] or a desktop install [12:35] desktop be/fe [12:35] Ok, then customize those settings in gnome-power-prefs [12:36] well crap, so I cant uninstall power/manager [12:37] not a big deal though [12:37] all those settings can be changed [12:44] where did mkiconmap.pl get moved to? [12:44] /usr/share/mythtv-backend/contrib i think [12:44] /usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend [12:44] better yet [12:49] sweet, now whats this i hear about this script being obsoleted for channel_icons.pl? [12:49] i heard something similar [12:49] didnt look into it though [12:49] I heard it from two people [12:49] just now as a matter of fact [12:49] http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3007 [12:49] okay tgm4883 what was this forum post you wanted me to see [12:50] this is where i saw it from [12:50] is there a good alternative for k3b written specifically for gnome? [12:50] so im just wondering if i should use that or mkiconmap [12:50] gnomebaker? [12:50] superm1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=458698 post # 35 [01:00] thanks for the help superm1, I was having trouble figuring out that guys problem [01:05] it just looks like basic db corruption [01:06] which can be caused by dozens of things [01:06] i think that when Daviey eventually gets around to writing his little mythbuntu admin panel, that should be an option [01:06] to restore old db backups [01:06] since they are done regularly [01:07] although if you want something fun to work on tgm4883, you can write a little applet that we can include in pygtk or something to that affect - and then daviey can add it later--- [01:08] the applet can then be mythbuntu/ubuntu sane - something that is in System-Administration. Like MythTV Backup & Restore [01:13] also being able to choose where the db is backed up to would be a good feature [01:13] Well the packages by default backup to a directory in /var [01:14] but yes i can see adding that as configuration option would be pretty cool [01:14] and if the whole system goes down...odds are you lost your back up too. I have everything backup to a different hard drive [01:15] also, I don't like the default path for videos in the feisty package. if you have to reload you system....you're screwed and you have to get rid of all your videos [01:16] hmm, i'd like to help, but I dont think im capable yet. Still have some stuff to learn [01:16] what do you think would be a better option? [01:16] man, I don't want to go to work tonight. [01:16] tgm4883_laptop, well just an idea to think about [01:16] python is a pretty neat language [01:16] i'm learning as i'm working on ubiquity here [01:17] i plan on starting on that, the crap programs i write now are all i java [01:17] the really cool thing is that you do the whole gui in Glade-3 [01:17] well, the way I have it is /videos is a separate partition and that's where everything is stored. Then I back up my db to /shares/files/backup. /shares is my /dev/hdd drive--160GB drive for my file server [01:17] and then write all the python wrapper code [01:17] and call upon signals from glade [01:18] rogue780|mythsrv, the problem with that is that directories like that in / are not LSB [01:18] I got a book on python, haven't really gotten in to it yet. I;m still stuck on C++ I guess...and isn't python primarily a scripted language and not compiled? [01:18] LSB? [01:18] linux standards base [01:18] well rogue780|mythsrv if you up for taking it, that'd be cool too :) [01:18] we can add it to our whiteboard [01:19] a lot of ubuntu stuff is written in python [01:19] like restricted drivers manager [01:19] enabling desktop effects [01:19] little things like that [01:19] which is why a little db backup applet makes sense (to me) [01:19] well I have two choices. A: I can follow standards and get screwed every time I mess up my system and reload or B: I can deviate from the standard and save myself some trouble. [01:19] haha [01:20] I mean, think about it. I'm still pretty much a windows user who is trying to get away from microsoft. I'm bound to find new and exciting ways to get linux to crash like windows [01:21] rogue780|mythsrv, it's all about the hardware [01:21] tgm4883_laptop, eh? [01:21] i got the BSOD using feisty herd 5, haven't seen that since windows [01:21] of course it was black, not blue [01:22] I'm horrible with computers. I mean, I can play nice and all if I want to...but I'm a bit too curious about stuff. the other day I destroyed a perfectly good install of mac os X in the apple store....go figure [01:23] sudo rm -rf / will destroy any unix based machine rogue780|mythsrv :) [01:24] so will dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/hda ... or whatever your main install is [01:24] I wonder if you can use dd to do something like this... dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/dsp [01:25] I should be careful about that random thing....I got banned from #ubuntu because someone asked me the quickest way to format a hard drive and make it so people can't recover data.... [01:26] apparently sharing that information is against the code of ethics or whatnot [01:27] did ubotu say something like [01:27] !language [01:27] ? [01:27] Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [01:27] or what? [01:27] no [01:28] someone went like this [01:28] !ops [01:28] Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok [01:28] !ops [01:28] and again and again. [01:28] then I was banned [01:28] by LjL [01:28] well be careful what you say then :) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:28] crap. that didn't make people come to this channel did it? [01:29] hello PriceChild [01:29] ubotu announces all !ops in -ops, no reason for people to come but I thought I'd make sure all was ok :) [01:29] well that's good to know. I was just demonstrating something that happened earlier. my bad [01:29] have fun :) [01:29] I'm a tool === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] [01:30] lol [01:34] r [01:34] rogue780|mythsrv, did you start on the gdm? [01:34] or look into the session listing thing? [01:35] in the lirc guide it says that the feisty packages include support and that the usage is the same as standard serial transmitters (for mceusb2). This means I don't have to build it, right? Or I have to follow the serial part of the guide? [01:35] You just build the mceusb2 module [01:35] and the support is there [01:35] but the syntax is the same as serial [01:35] say irsend REMOTE COMMAND [01:35] etc [01:35] ah, so when i setup the receiver it did it [01:35] right [01:36] I've looked into it briefly. [01:36] sweet, i always like to check before i fubar something [01:36] Don't expect too much before the 4th of july. the whole buying a house/packing our old house is takin' a toll [01:36] ah okay [01:52] anybody know where I can get jpeg2yuv? [01:53] got an error when calling it from mytharchive [01:54] its missing from the dependencies? [01:55] graphics/mjpegtools [01:56] no package I suppose. Have to download and compile? [01:57] I read that mytharchive will compile even if it doesnt have all of its deps [01:58] apparently "shift" doesn't count as "any key" [01:58] yes there is [01:58] mjpegtools [01:59] also with feisty [01:59] if you just type jpeg2yuv [01:59] it will tell you which package its in [02:00] I searched for jpeg2yuv in synaptic and didnt find it. This is on edgy.. [02:00] but its installing now [02:00] you guys have nvidia cards right? [02:00] can you tell me the output of this: [02:00] lshw -class VIDEO | grep vendor | cut -b 16- [02:05] hold one [02:05] i'm expecting it will say "NVIDIA Corporation" but just want to get a sample to make sure [02:05] nVidia Corporation [02:06] with the little n and big V [02:06] hm [02:06] ok [02:06] rogue780|mythsrv, could you look? [02:06] yes, thats a c&P [02:06] superm1, I'm beginning to suspect that there is a problem with the computer that I've been trying to test mythbuntu on [02:06] why rogue780|mythsrv ? [02:06] well I just installed reactos on it to mess around, see what they've done...and I'm getting the same error [02:07] and that also happens to be the same computer I've got my nvidia on. [02:07] haha [02:07] rogue780|mythsrv, you must have bad luck with pcs [02:08] just this one [02:08] I usually never have hardware issues...linux issues I have a plenty [02:08] well crap.... now I got an ffmpeg error [02:08] trying again without transcoding. [02:16] lol [02:16] now a spumux error [02:16] well minesweeper works on reactos... [02:18] I love it when I'm told I have insufficient space on disk and I have 122GB [02:18] anyway..I'm gonna load feisty up and see waht it says [02:47] well my lirc transmitter is partially working [02:47] partially? [02:47] yea, i can send the codes via the command line and the tv picks some of them up [02:47] im not sure why though === defendguin [n=supertux@ip5-155.tvmax-fiber-1.hou.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:48] if i send something like volume down continusly it will maybe pick up about 4 sent in a 20 second span [02:48] yea i've seen similar issues [02:49] I had to do an irrecord and force raw [02:49] i think the codes recorded from the mceusb2 receiver won't work well [02:49] probably something with the wavelength? [02:49] ah [02:49] i think [02:49] but i've never solved it myself [02:49] i have generated codes done by other receivers (on lirc.org) that work great [02:50] for other devices [02:50] i think the mceusb2 transmitter is just that finicky [02:50] sounds like it, also, does it default to the 1st transmitter port? How would one specify the send port? [02:50] it sends from both [02:51] i think [02:51] :( [02:51] that would be a problem if you had say two of the same STB [02:51] yes it would be [02:53] I'll have to try recording it with my pvr-150 [02:54] let me know if you have more luck with that, but i think that reciever only recognizes pvr-150 remotes [02:54] the best way to record (i've heard) is a serial receiver [02:55] i heard the same, but its worth a try [02:55] i suppose another option would be to find the CIR commands? [02:55] what are those? [02:56] the consumer infra-red commands [02:57] never heard of them [02:57] i think its basically what the remote sends to the tv [02:57] what tv again? [02:57] i only read about it today, here [02:57] http://www.lirc.org/html/irsend.html [02:57] vizio vx37l [02:57] oh right you mentioned that to me before [02:57] and it uses someone else's standard commands [02:57] heard a rumor that LG makes the lcd, but non of those commands were working for me [02:57] like LG's [02:58] although im only about 4 into the list [02:58] yea i use LG codes for my universal remote i had [02:58] oh CIR's are just the standard things in lircd.conf i thought [03:00] could be [03:00] i tried that mkiconmap, but got errors about invalid zip [03:01] grab the newer one from trac then [03:01] the renamed one [04:22] Can anyone help me figure out why I can tune a chan with one DVB adapter but not the other? === kso [n=kso@cpe-70-112-79-15.austin.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] [05:40] anyone know if the mythtv from the repos compiled with perl bindings? [05:43] superm1, i saw this page about the new channel_icons.pl, didn't know if you had saw it and maybe a change in the wiki is needed? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons === defendguin_ [n=supertux@ip5-155.tvmax-fiber-1.hou.ygnition.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:12] tgm4883_laptop, there is no reason perl bindings should be disabled in the mythtv/repo build [06:12] tgm4883_laptop, Nvm. Looks as though i'm mistaken [06:12] perl bindings aren't enabled [06:12] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7315462/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.mythtv_0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu6_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz [06:13] as that page indicates, perl bindings are only functional in trunk though [06:14] so gardengnome are you building the trunk packages with perl bindings? === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:28] i tried running the script, but came back with errors, so i thought i would ask [07:00] tgm4883_laptop, if you figure out this channel icons issue let me know [07:00] i'd like to add its functionality to the installer [07:00] now that i've got the installer running through an entire run without crashes and mistakes (yay today :) [07:06] ok, ill keep working on it === ethernitz [n=none@71-36-126-226.tcsn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:27] anyone around ? [07:28] ethernitz, i'm in an out [07:28] whats up? [07:29] just learned about MythTV and was wondering how functional it is, I'm a current Tivo user [07:29] well its more functional than a tivo :) [07:30] well better yet, its more feature filled than MCE is [07:30] that's the kind of info I'm looking for....... [07:30] way better than a tivo [07:31] i have the original tivo as well......it's been great but looking possibly to upgrade and wondering if I should go the MythTV route.....how much work involved in setting it up ? [07:31] ethernitz, well it depends on how much you want to put into it [07:32] because you can have setups that will span across a whole network [07:32] Not to difficult, depending on the functionality and the hardware you have [07:32] the guide rocks [07:32] or something on a single box [07:32] !mythtv [07:32] MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV [07:33] ubotu I'm on there right now checking it out.........I'm probably just looking for a basic setup....thanks for the info I'll be doing the research and hopefully getting rid of the $12.95 a month charge [07:35] thanks again...later === ethernitz [n=none@71-36-126-226.tcsn.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] [07:40] hehe, he though ubotu was a real person === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5E0EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [+o superm1] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mythtv:superm1] : "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Mythbuntu Alpha 1: http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV" === mode/#ubuntu-mythtv [-o superm1] by ChanServ [08:33] superm1, any chance the perl bindings are going to be compiled in .21? Everything im reading about this error point to activating the perl bindings? [08:33] in .21 it shouldnt be a big deal to add [08:33] if its possible to do on 0.20-fixes, i'll add it to that too [08:35] tgm4883_laptop, i'm headed to be dthough [08:35] night :) [08:35] it looks like its possible, with "--with-bindings=perl". Someone wanted it the script tested with it on .20 [08:35] night superm1 === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === gardengnome [n=laga@mythwiki.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Daviey [n=daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:32] superm1: ping === Paladine [n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:56] anyone awake [12:01] yes [12:01] Daviey: superm1 is 6hrs behind us I beleive [12:03] it's a crazy huy [12:03] he's a crazy guy rather [12:06] DaveMorris: whyda think - http://www.accessprivilege.com/images/Elonex_artisan_04.jpg [12:06] thinking of getting one [12:07] You tried upgrading a mythbackend from edgy to fiesty? [12:07] is that just a case or a complete unit? [12:08] looks nice though [12:08] anyone managed to build mythtv on gutsy yet? [12:08] 2007-06-04 11:08:09.833 Using screen 0, 1280x1024 at 0,0 [12:08] 2007-06-04 11:08:09.838 Current Schema Version: 1160 [12:08] Segmentation fault [12:09] can't get past that segfault whether I build from svn checkout or use the repos [12:09] Is that the frontend or the backend? [12:09] thats for mythtv-setup [12:10] DaveMorris: comes as bare bones - not a bad price IMO [12:10] you tried running through strace? [12:11] never used strace, I wouldn't know where to start [12:11] sudo apt-get install strace [12:11] then from a cli [12:11] strace mythtv-setup [12:12] hmmm I wonder.... [12:12] can you then open a bug so we can track it, and paste the strace for it etc [12:12] last thing it does it try to call RandR to do something [12:13] and I have xinerama enabled so randr is disabled [12:13] read(8, "\1\1\6\0\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\3103\267\277\27\37\25\10 \267"..., 32) = 32 [12:13] writev(8, [{"b\0\4\0\5\0\0\0", 8}, {"RANDR", 5}, {"\0\0\0", 3}] , 3) = 16 [12:13] read(8, 0xbff3be4c, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) [12:14] I should rebuild with --disable-xrandr [12:15] I will try with nv drivers first === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mythtv.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Topic for #ubuntu-mythtv: "Welcome to #ubuntu-mythtv:: Mythbuntu Alpha 1: http://www.mythbuntu.org :: Paste logs @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :: See our wiki for setting up and troubleshooting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV" === Topic (#ubuntu-mythtv): set by superm1 at Mon Jun 4 08:25:19 2007 === Paladine [n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:24] it was xrandr [01:25] is working with xinerama disabled [01:25] man I forgot how long mythfilldatabase took [01:53] Paladine: But the gutsy repo debs didn't work? [01:53] Can you open a bug with the problem so superm1 can decided what to do about it [01:54] Dave, well they work [01:54] but not for me [01:54] cos the package is built with xrandr enabled [01:55] and since I use xinerama it kills randr, so mythtv-setup was segfaulting on me [01:55] yeah, just post it as a bug though, it may be safe to have the package nomrally shipped with randr disabled [01:55] k I will add it to launchpad later [01:55] cheers === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:28] well it definitely works [02:29] just gonna reboot to xinerama mode, it shoudl start fine now I have it set to launch in a window === Paladine [n=Paladine@paladine.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:37] meh [02:38] rebuilding with --disable-xrandr :p [02:38] even in a window it segfaults with xinerama enabled [02:38] why it is trying to access xrandr in windowed mode is beyond me [02:40] bbiab === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:10] heh [03:10] i'm now getting bug reports in my inbox :) [03:11] gardengnome: that can be fixed... :) [03:11] you've been added to the mythtv team? [03:11] Daviey: yup [03:12] err, DaveMorris i mean. sorry :) [03:12] We can fix it my asking you to leave :D [03:12] :'( [03:12] no [03:12] i need to commit crappy code to my bzr branch [03:13] i can't do that when i'm not on the team. ;) [03:13] can't you just set LP up to not mail you [03:14] Daviey: that should be possible, but it doesn't bother me a lot. since i regularly read mythtv-commits, i might even be able to contribute something [03:15] dave [03:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/109227 [03:15] Launchpad bug 109227 in mythtv "Mythfrontend, mythtv-setup segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [03:16] still want me to add a specific one to Gutsy lp? [03:16] I updated the existing one [03:16] Paladine: why don't you report that bug to upstream if it doesn't happen with the ubuntu packages? [03:17] because it does [03:17] thats fine, thanks Paladine [03:17] Paladine: well, true. it should still be reported to upstream, IMHO [03:18] gardengnome: but its fixed by compiling with --disable-xrandr [03:18] it is only an issue with binaries built with xrandr enabled [03:18] ah [03:19] so it's ubuntu's version of xrandr which is probably broken [03:19] nope [03:19] it is a xinerama issue [03:19] xinerama disabled xrandr [03:19] ah [03:20] we should prob look to see what affect would be caused by only shipping binaries with it disabled in [03:20] hey mates [03:20] Daviey: superm1 is here now [03:20] hey superm1 [03:20] hey superm1 [03:20] ah DaveMorris and Daviey your alive [03:20] gardengnome, i had somethign to ask you last night [03:21] perl bindings [03:21] es [03:21] (I'd still let upstream deal with it just because i'm lazy and because it happens with their vanilla mythtv as well) [03:21] superm1: yep? [03:21] are they enabled in your trunk builds? [03:21] dave, it is working fine in gutsy now I disabled ranr [03:21] xrandr [03:22] thnas Paladine [03:22] superm1: let me find out. i have yet to try nuvexport :) [03:22] Paladine, there was supposed to be a fix to that (#3401 from trac), but it didn't work when I applied it to the gutsy packages [03:23] just waiting yet for the dust to settle to figure out what to do [03:24] superm1: i don't think they are installed. but they should at least be made available to the user. nuvexport depends on them, AFAIK [03:25] I believe its a matter of --perl-bindings during configure [03:25] no this is definitely the xrandr problem cos I just tested it [03:25] superm1: yup. should those be put into a separate package? [03:25] xinerama stop xrandr running [03:25] superm1: i need to run.. be back in 20 [03:25] stops [03:25] maybe 30 [03:25] Okay Daviey [03:25] gardengnome, the perl bindings? [03:26] How many files are created? [03:26] superm1: yup, the perl bindings. [03:26] superm1: i'll check [03:29] confusing. i didn't fully mergy your latest changeset, now i'm getting trouble wrt libmyth-dev. i should finish merging some time.. [03:31] superm1: it's about 5 or 6 files it seems [03:31] I say yes make another package then [03:31] superm1: yay [03:32] superm1: is there an "official" place where i can put a todo list? [03:32] on the wiki [03:32] MythTVTeam pages [03:32] there is a todo [03:32] thanks [03:32] i'm bad at updating it myself :) [03:32] because i tend to forget $stuff [03:33] i'm looking forward to translating the debconf stuff to german :) i like localized things [03:35] bbl have to go to see the surgeon [03:38] why do i keep forgetting my passwords? :'( [03:41] superm1: what do you think about using blueprints in launchpad instead of that todo list? https://help.launchpad.net/BlueprintDocumentation [03:41] oh thats probably a better idea [03:41] because then people can snap them up [03:41]