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mc44< file bugz plz ompaulz >12:27
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roboh geez12:27
poningruWOW12:28
ompaulcowsay: Could not find bud.frogs cowfile!12:31
PumpernickelWhat have you guys been smoking?12:31
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ompaul ______________________________________12:31
ompaul/ mc44, and where should I file them - \12:31
ompaul| dear mc44 - dear mc44 - and where    |12:31
ompaul\ should I file them dear mc44         /12:31
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ompaul          '  '--'    ==`-'==        '--'  '12:31
ompaulPumpernickel, /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ is what we are smoking12:32
ompaulit ain't all safe for work12:32
tonyyarusso(#ubuntu-cowspam exists if anyone gets upset btw)12:32
ompaultonyyarusso, hmm we need to auto join and have a bot there that says new one and reports that info here12:33
tonyyarussoompaul: might be arrangable12:36
tonyyarussoompaul: If you use \' it works12:37
naliothyes, ompaul think of the \12:38
naliothor the "12:38
ompaulhmm tere are those12:38
ompaulthere are those even12:38
ompaulI accept this pebkac award for and on behalf of me and some other random command line abusers everywhere12:40
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uboturogue780|mythsrv called the ops in #ubuntu-mythtv01:28
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poningru!info snd_usb_audio01:47
ubotuPackage snd_usb_audio does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:47
poningru!snd_usb_audio01:47
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poningrugrr01:47
poningru!usb audio01:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about usb audio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
gnomefreak@btlogin01:59
nalioth@lart gnomefreak02:00
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gnomefreaktroll gone :)02:00
gnomefreaksomeone to come in a complain ill be right back looksing for something atm02:02
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brylieI would like to report op abuse02:02
gnomefreakim at log level if you need them02:03
gnomefreaklooking for something else02:03
naliothbrylie: what's up?02:03
bryliegnomefreak may be helping certain people. he muted me and I believe undeservedly.02:03
gnomefreaki muted him after telling him and another user to take the gmail-neta talk to -offtopic02:04
mneptokbrylie: #ubuntu is a support channel. if you're asked to take offtopic conversation elsewhere, do so. and if you refuse, being muted may well be the result. that seems fair.02:06
gnomefreakbrylie: gmail beta has nothing to do with ubuntu or ubuntu support02:06
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brylieyos, however beta does.02:08
bryliehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23994/02:09
gnomefreakbrylie: he wasnt talking about beta he was talking about gmail beta02:09
brylieI had answered his question about how to bug report for gmail02:09
gnomefreakbrylie: we dont support bugs for gmail02:09
brylieand was seeking to clarify the definition of beta itself [gmail aside] 02:10
mneptokbrylie: regardless of GMail, you were asked to stop and you didn't.02:10
brylieI did so stop02:10
mneptokthat's the only relevant point02:10
brylieThere was no further discussion of Gmail beta02:10
gnomefreakbrylie: no you didnt. after i asked you to stop you posted beta is not offtopic02:10
gnomefreakthat is not stopping02:10
mneptokOK, then that's the point you want to make. that you followed a request and were muted anyway.02:11
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bryliebecause it isn't. > 50% of the software people are requesting support in in #ubuntu is 'beta'02:11
gnomefreakbrylie: if you read before answering him you would have known what was going on. it was about gmail he asked is gmail still beta02:11
brylieyes. and am mildly frustrated mneptok02:11
gnomefreakbrylie: if you both were talking about beta version of ubuntu you would have been muted as well if you didnt stop when asked to02:12
bryliegnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23994/02:12
gnomefreakbrylie: i have the logs ty02:12
brylieand that is what I believe is op abuse02:13
brylie'stop when asked to' because you have the op commands02:13
gnomefreakbrylie: you were offtopic i asked you to stop.02:13
brylieI don't believe so clearly off topic as to warrent action02:14
gnomefreaknalioth: care to be in middle02:14
brylieand one is also entitled a rebuttle when accused02:14
gnomefreakhow many times should i have asked you to stop?02:14
gnomefreak1 or 30 times would it have changed?02:15
brylieyou accepted my rebuttle as you were typing /mute brylie 10minutes or whatever02:15
brylieyes because the conversation had somewhat ceased when you initally intervened02:16
naliothbrylie: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support.  Other softwares have their own discussion channels02:16
gnomefreakbrylie: no i didnt. i said stop now you continued than got muted02:16
brylieyou could have, perhaps, suggested we 'take it private?02:16
bryliethx nalioth02:16
gnomefreakbrylie: i suggest you to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic02:16
brylieno.. you are distorting context gnomefreak02:17
bryliehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23994/02:17
naliothbrylie: i've looked at your pastebin02:17
bryliesorry to bother y'all with this stuff.. I did my 10 minutes and should be greatful not to be banned.02:18
gnomefreak19:37 <      gnomefreak > skel: it was released and made public. please ask  offtopic questions in #ubuntu-offtopic02:18
nalioth #ubuntu-offtopic is for discussion of everthing-other-than-ubuntu02:18
brylie'skel"02:18
gnomefreakbrylie: than he stated about the bugs than you got into it02:18
brylienot 'brylie'02:18
gnomefreakbrylie: you were watching at that point because within a minute or 2 you got involved and i asked you to stop and you didnt02:19
bryliemaybe just suggest people go 'private' next time is all02:19
gnomefreaklook up a little further from your logs02:20
brylieI was in the middle of trying not to burn my soy chickenstrips while help ubuntu users02:20
PriceChildbrylie, I think it was made quite clear to you the reason for the first mute, and so you should have noticed the ubotu message to take things to -offtopic.02:20
brylie<gnomefreak> brylie: i muted him for being offtopic please stay on topic02:21
brylie<brylie> mainly says that beta is early release.. gnomefreak most of the software people are asking for support on it #ubuntu is beta.. I don't agree that 'beta' is off topic02:21
bryliethat is all I said after he specifically warned me02:22
gnomefreakand?02:22
bryliewhich is also when I lean] rned that skel was muted02:22
brylieand he muted me02:22
LjLwhen you're asked to move (blatantly) offtopic stuff to -offtopic, you just move to -offtopic, you don't start arguing.02:22
gnomefreakbrylie: i also stated stop now02:22
brylieyes you did02:23
gnomefreakbrylie: with 1000+ people asking more than once for something to stop is just excess typing. i ask 2 times than mute02:24
brylieok 'brylie stop' is TELLING.. and just once02:25
gnomefreakread what you pasted in here that makes 202:25
brylie<gnomefreak> brylie: i muted him for being offtopic please stay on topic02:26
gnomefreakdid you post something after that comment from me02:26
LjLi think this discussion itself is leading nowhere and you could as well both stop arguing. the mute is gone now, and it can hardly be denied that you were offtopic and you kept being after warning (asking, telling, what you like).02:27
brylie'gnomefreak most of the software people are asking for support on it #ubuntu is beta.. I don't agree that 'beta' is off topic'02:27
naliothbrylie: if it's 'beta #ubuntu" it belongs in #ubuntu+102:27
bryliebeta is not off topic02:27
naliothbrylie: if it's beta (anything else) it doesn't belong in #ubuntu at all02:27
brylieI am not that familiar with IRC02:27
bryliethat is another thing that is frustrating it people assuming too much pre-knowledge02:28
LjLbrylie: you're grasping at straws. it was quite evident that *gmail*, and not the fact of something being "beta", was offtopic.02:28
LjLbrylie: there isn't much pre-knowledge needed in order to stop when told to.02:28
bryliethe gmail subject had ceased when I gave skel a contact link LjL02:29
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LjLeh?02:30
bryliethis isn't so black and white as you wish to make it seem. I understand that 1000 people barrage of conversations and joins maks things hard to read02:30
gnomefreakto file bugs on gmail i thought you said it was02:30
bryliehe wanted to bug report I believe02:30
brylieso I googled gmail contact support02:30
brylieand pasted the link02:31
bryliewhich was off topic02:31
gnomefreakthe gmail subject did not cease as you stated than. this is not getting you anywhere and i have work to do.02:31
bryliebut not the direct result of my mute02:31
LjLbrylie: it's so non-black-and-white that you were muted for 10 minutes, not banned or thrown off the network. next time, you'll keep in mind that #ubuntu is strictly for Ubuntu support questions and anything else goes in #ubuntu-offtopic or somewhere else, and tell people accordingly.02:31
LjLincident closed02:32
bryliewhat about wine support?02:32
LjLwine is included in the Ubuntu repositories02:32
brylienm02:32
LjLthough it's sometimes a good idea to point people to #winehq02:32
LjLsimply because they're more specialized on it in there02:32
bryliewine.budgetdedicated?02:33
brylieyea02:33
LjLhm?02:33
bryliei'll join the other channels02:33
LjL!channels02:33
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines02:33
bryliemy repo is wine.budgetdedicated02:33
brylieon the third party tab02:33
bryliecan't remember if I manually configured tat or ubuntu shipped that way.02:34
LjLyou're probably best off asking in #winehq, but nothing prevents you from asking in #ubuntu even though you installed it from a third-party repo02:34
LjLno, you manually configured it02:34
brylieok nevermind02:34
brylieyea I probably did02:34
brylieadios all02:34
LjLbye02:35
LjL(the winehq repositories are mostly quite good anyway... other third party repos can cause problems and we generally discourage using them, but if people need support with them, we still try)02:36
gnomefreakwith the exception of that crap script's repos02:40
LjLgnomefreak: well, we still support people who have it enabled (by telling them to remove it first, of course). attempt to at least02:41
gnomefreaktrue02:42
gnomefreakLjL: im heading to bed you might want to keep one eye on eh in #ubuntu03:01
gnomefreakhe reminds me of troll in training03:01
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LjLok03:02
LjLnight03:02
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PriceChildSHITDISCO, I suggest you change your nickname and username to join #ubuntu03:07
SHITDISCOno03:07
naliothwow, two in one03:07
naliothSHITDISCO: no problem03:08
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qwwqeSHITDISCO my main man03:09
qwwqemy brotha from anotha motha03:09
SHITDISCOYO YO03:09
SHITDISCOWINDOWS4LYFE03:09
naliothqwwqe: can we help you with something?03:09
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PriceChildThis isn't a social channel...03:09
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qwwqeoh snap03:09
qwwqei was just in here for him03:09
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gnomefreakPriceChild: hes gone03:10
PriceChildgnomefreak, nope he's still in there...?03:10
gnomefreakPriceChild: hes not in here03:11
gnomefreaknalioth: kicked him03:11
PriceChildI know. I was just saying to watch him in #ubuntu :)03:11
gnomefreakah03:11
gnomefreaki thought that said join #ubuntu03:11
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Hobbseeanyone awake?04:11
QMarioMe.04:19
QMarioHello Hobbsee!!! :)04:19
Hobbseehiya QMario04:19
QMarioHow have you been Hobbsee?04:20
Hobbseeripl/noria has some more interesting stuff.  trying to keep it out of -devel, and query is hard, t hough04:20
Hobbseegood - i got core dev!04:20
QMarioNalioth, it looks as if you hate the Fantastic 4!!! :)04:23
naliothQMario: huh?04:23
QMarioNalioth, you dislike "flame" wars, right?04:23
QMario"Flame on!!!"04:24
QMarioFlame Man says that.04:24
QMario:)04:24
ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu05:12
tonyyarussoI know I've seen the user of WVista before, under a different nick, but don't remember if it was on good terms or not.05:14
mneptokhow do you recognize him?05:15
mneptokident?05:15
tonyyarussoircname mostly05:16
tonyyarussoWindows2000XPVIS and xSUSHix are past nicks - looks like it's been on previous flooding/trolling terms.05:19
Hobbseeurgh05:20
Hobbseethat firs tone is a troll, at least05:20
Hobbseemorning mneptok!05:20
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naliothhe's a troll.05:21
naliothconfirmed.05:21
Hobbseeoh it's not morning there05:21
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mneptokheya Hobbsee!05:21
Hobbsee:)05:21
mneptokmmm .... goo ....05:21
Hobbseehehe05:23
tonyyarussogaa gaa!05:23
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tonyyarusso!gusty is <alias> gutsy05:42
ubotuBut gusty already means something else!05:42
tonyyarussoSomeone beat me to it?05:42
tonyyarusso!gusty05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gusty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
tonyyarusso...05:42
tonyyarusso!no, gusty is <alias> gutsy05:42
ubotuI know nothing about gusty yet, tonyyarusso05:42
tonyyarusso!gusty is <alias> gutsy05:43
ubotuBut gusty already means something else!05:43
naliothtonyyarusso: quit arguing with the robot05:43
tonyyarussonalioth: I can't lose this one though - it would be humiliating!05:43
tonyyarusso!lart ubotu for being stubborn05:43
tonyyarusso@lart ubotu for being stubborn05:44
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tonyyarussoNoooo!05:44
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Hobbseehehe05:45
mneptok!forget gusty05:47
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, mneptok said: !forget gusty05:47
mneptokofer kryssayques05:47
Hobbsee!forget gusty05:48
ubotuI know nothing about gusty yet, Hobbsee05:48
Hobbsee!gutsy05:48
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+105:48
Hobbsee!gusty is <alias> gutsy05:48
ubotuBut gusty already means something else!05:48
Hobbsee!gutsy05:48
Hobbsee!gusty05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gusty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
Hobbsee!gusty is <alias> gutsy05:48
mneptokubotu, lip my chancre.05:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lip my chancre. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:49
Hobbsee!no gusty is <alias> gutsy05:49
ubotuI know nothing about gusty yet, Hobbsee05:49
mneptokyou're about to find out, you prattling pile of pernicious Python.05:49
Hobbsee!gusty is <alias> gutsy05:49
ubotuBut gusty already means something else!05:49
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MadpilotSeveas, are you letting the bot at your mad Dutch happy weed?05:49
mneptokubotu, the cure for ubotu's pubic lice.05:50
mneptokburn it.05:50
mneptokburn it now, before the grown ups get back.05:51
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Madpilotis incoherence contagious?05:52
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poningru!gusty is <alias> gutsy05:52
ubotuIn #ubuntu-ops, poningru said: !gusty is <alias> gutsy05:52
poningru...05:52
poningru!gusty05:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gusty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:52
poningruwow05:52
mneptok!in #ubuntu-ops mneptok said in #ubuntu-ops is mneptok said05:53
Madpilot!making sense05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about making sense - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:54
mneptok23:52 < ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, mneptok said: in #ubuntu-ops mneptok said in #ubuntu-ops is mneptok said  <--- no workee :/05:55
Hobbseeawww05:56
mneptokhttp://www.wellingtongrey.net/miscellanea/archive/2007-05-27--the-truth-about-wireless-devices.html06:04
Hobbseemneptok: hahaha neat06:12
Hobbseemneptok: haha, that site is great!06:23
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Tm_Tinteresting to try to follow #ubuntu with this rather slow connection over ssh ofcourse, making it even worse08:47
tonyyarussoTry IRC over dialup while dist-upgrading08:48
Tm_TI did it08:49
Tm_Tworked fine as long as I didn't use ssh08:49
nixternaltry dist-upgrading over a piece of string and 2 soup cans08:49
Tm_Tbah, too much noise in there, started losing keys08:49
nixternalwhile IRC, checking email, and downloading 400 torrents08:50
Tm_Ttonyyarusso: I am atm on dialup08:50
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tonyyarussoah08:50
Tm_Tand will be at most of the time yet few weeks08:50
Tm_Tjust did dist-upgrade two days or so08:50
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nixternalI just did a dist-upgrade to sid...talk about a long time08:53
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ubotuIn ubotu, Gnea said: networking is Help for setting up and/or configuring network parameters can be found here: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-networking-for-basic-and-advanced-users.html11:40
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ubotuIn ubotu, persia said: tags is Tags are used for tracking bugs.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags for common usage.01:48
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ubotuIn #ubuntu-motu, pochu said: !tags is We use some common tags for the bugs. Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags to know them.01:54
ubotuIn #ubuntu-bugs, pochu said: !tags is We use some common tags for the bugs. Check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags to know them.01:54
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sogasehello04:40
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PriceChildsogase, is there anything we can help you with?04:46
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ubotusivaji2009 called the ops in #ubuntu07:59
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ubotuIn #ubuntu, JayMac said: !beryl is A window manager that enhances your desktop. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty.08:03
JuJuBeesivaji2009 ?08:03
sivaji2009yes JuJuBee08:04
JuJuBeeAm I SOL?08:04
sivaji2009sol means08:04
PriceChildHello sivaji2009, JuJuBee, can I help you?08:04
JuJuBeeHaving trouble with login...08:04
JuJuBeesivaji2009 asked me to join here...08:05
sivaji2009PriceChild help JuJuBee08:05
PriceChildlogin to what? This channel should be for operator/abuse questions only08:05
JuJuBeeWhen kubuntu starts up I get a login screen , but nothing will enter into the password field.  Even if I enter my password, no login.  When I try to use console, I am not even prompted for password.  It just fails after username.08:06
PriceChildJuJuBee, please "/join #kubuntu" and ask your question there.08:07
PriceChildsivaji2009, please read the topic, this channel is for operator/abuse questions only08:07
JuJuBeeDid, not joy.  I will respect the topic and leave...08:07
sivaji2009sexyone  is flooding ubuntu channel with pron movies i called operators twice but no reponse08:07
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naliothsivaji2009: are they back again? they were klined08:07
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ompaulI am on the only cd that boots on this machine - my fsf membership card running a 2.4 kernel arrrrrrrr08:57
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ompaulokay fun time back to dapper and work out what is wrong08:57
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ompaulthat was horrible09:07
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gnomefreakLjL: that looks like a script so i removed him10:01
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Seveasnalioth, around?10:24
Seveasalindeman doesn't have toomuch idltime :)10:25
Seveasyou around for assistance alindeman?10:25
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Seveas!staff10:59
ubotuHey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)10:59
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robhey Seveas, whats up?10:59
Seveasheya10:59
Seveascould you do a /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-wisconsin contact seveas10:59
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robdone11:00
Seveasthanks!11:01
robno probs11:01
robanything else?11:01
Seveasnope, not today :)11:02
robokay :D11:03
vorianyou rock Seveas :)11:03
Seveasneh, music's off. No rock here ;)11:03
mc44\m/11:03
Seveas\s/11:03
Pumpernickel\p/11:03
vorian\V/11:04
vorianhmm11:04
vorianthat looks silly :(11:04
Seveasyou are silly :p11:07
vorian:D11:08
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naliothSeveas: pong11:30
pleia2a trio of wonderful folks just trolled #ubuntu-women: sethy GsT crooksey11:53
pleia2< GsT> I'll bring the strapon, yea? < sethy> GsT: i'm going to hunt you down and sex you, wether you like it or not! < crooksey> GsT will be at mine, engaing in intercourse with me, bitch!11:53
pleia2etch11:53
pleia2s/etch/etc11:53
LjLthat's edgy11:53
pleia2heh11:54
naliothpleia2: chanops whack em?11:54
pleia2nalioth: yep, I got them11:54
pleia2just fyi in case they troll elsewhere :)11:54
LjLcrooksey is in #ubuntu, got him on highlight...11:55
naliothpleia2: thanky11:55
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