[12:29] hi folkz - how active / stable is the ubuntu development of XMMS at this point? [12:29] !xmms [12:29] Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs [12:29] !info xxms [12:29] Package xxms does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [12:29] !info xmms [12:29] xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20061201-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 794 kB, installed size 6304 kB [12:29] W8TAH: as far as i know they just recompile it from the debian souces [12:29] sources* [12:29] thats the version its at [12:29] ok - [12:30] it was dropped from the gentoo tree recently for lack of development [12:30] and i was curious if i should go that route on xubuntu or look at something else [12:30] W8TAH: i don't think that ubuntu actually does much development for xmms, i think they might patch it in some cases when needed, but no upstream devel [12:30] is upstream active or not? [12:31] W8TAH: well i'm pretty sure debian will always develop it and ubuntu uses their upstream (active) code, so i think xubuntu would suite you nicely [12:31] yea if they find a bug with it thats only happens with *buntu then they might patch but they dont add code to the offical xmms source [12:31] upstream xmms is dead [12:31] im sorry -- i misspoke - is upstream for xmms active - -im alreay on xubuntu [12:31] ahh - -ok [12:31] in ubuntu it will be ditched soon [12:31] thats what i was lookin for [12:32] so whats the recomended replacement? [12:32] glad I coud help :) [12:32] audacious, beep-media-player, whatver you fancy [12:32] :) [12:32] ok - -thanks -- i knew upstream in portage for xmms had died i wasnt sure if it was global or just portage [12:32] Seveas: xmms upstream official project is dead, but i was under the impression it was still being worked on within debian [12:33] W8TAH: well i know official upstream of xmms died long ago [12:33] ok - thats the info i needed -- i'll look at other options [12:33] W8TAH: i think distros have just been keeping it due to its popularity [12:33] ya - im sure [12:33] i'll have a look at other replacements - - [12:33] W8TAH: there is xmms2 .... the gtk2+ port, i believe its developed by the original xmms team [12:34] !info xmms2 [12:34] is it active? [12:34] Package xmms2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [12:34] W8TAH: lemme get you a link [12:34] cool [12:34] W8TAH: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Main_Page [12:34] thanks a ton [12:34] np [12:34] hummm.... [12:34] xmms2 is only slightly more alive than xmms [12:34] ugh [12:34] thats not good [12:35] not bad either [12:35] enough decent mediaplayers :) [12:35] It's "stable". ^^ [12:35] Seveas: it would be nice if ubuntu would make other media player's packages work though === maxamillion has been waiting 3 releases for a 64-bit package of beep media to function [12:36] maxamillion, how about audacious? [12:36] anyone think they could tell my why hdparm says -t = 416 kb/s and -T 79mb/s [12:36] Seveas: never touched it ... i use exaile now [12:37] Jester45: no clue [12:38] Seveas: i will look into it though === usr_rob_ [n=robert@c-c6dae055.105-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@AAnnecy-257-1-100-167.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === hepcat57 [n=joseph@ip68-98-181-209.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@AAnnecy-257-1-100-167.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #xubuntu ["Konversation] === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === unikon [n=unikon@unaffiliated/unikon] has joined #xubuntu === Juz_moi [n=user@c75-111-234-77.sangcmtk01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-134-182.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [n=ryan@d18-126.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 is now known as Jester-non45 === Shaba1 [n=nunya@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:46] hello === vidd_ [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-175.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:48] any advice on getting a xubutu installation to recognize a pcmcia wireless card [02:49] !pcmcia [02:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:49] :/ [02:50] Shaba1, does the card show up in "sudo network-admin"? [02:50] hold on I will look [02:52] ok tht started a dialog box [02:52] which I have filled out with my essid before [02:52] how do I find out if it is recognising the card [02:52] because I do not see any lights on the card at all [02:53] in comand line do iwconfig === Jester45 [n=ryan@d18-126.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_ is now known as vidd [02:54] trying vidd [02:54] hold on [02:56] Ok I have an entry under eth1 === Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] does it say access point followed by "Invalid" or a MAC address? [02:58] invalid [02:58] is there a power button on this card? [02:58] I do not think so [02:59] but let me chec to make sre [02:59] is it a linksys "g" card? [02:59] b/g [02:59] *groan*..... [02:59] and no power button [02:59] it is a bcm43xx chipset.... === vidd had trouble with that one two... [03:00] i threw it across the room and now i cant find it....=] [03:00] broadcome 4306 [03:00] all you need to do is get the firmware for it.... [03:02] sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter [03:03] will that work with out a net connection [03:03] then sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh [03:04] uhh...no....you need to be connected [03:04] vidd [03:04] well that is the problem is it not? [03:04] it'll fit on a floppy [03:04] BadSneakers, have you done it that way? [03:05] ok I am on windows [03:05] right now [03:05] iwht my other laptop [03:05] anyway I can download that === maxamillion [n=adam@mobile-166-217-091-165.mycingular.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:05] and use a usp key [03:05] i downloaded the firmware from "someplace" not sure where [03:05] Shaba1, let me find the .deb for ya.... [03:06] and it worked like a charm [03:06] so you can get that on a disk and then run the deb [03:07] i downloaded on a windows box and used a usb drive to get it onto linux [03:08] this seems familiar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2723540 [03:08] Shaba1, you using edgy, fiesty or dapper? [03:10] I have know idea [03:10] its the xubuntu intall [03:10] but I can find out the version number quickely [03:10] ok [03:12] 4.3.9.99 === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@c-134-232-207.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] feisty 7.04 is what I'm running [03:14] Shaba1: that's going to be the xfce version, not the xubuntu version [03:14] kk [03:14] Shaba1: can you tell me what the command "uname -r" says? [03:15] hold on [03:15] k [03:16] 2.6.17-10-generic [03:16] that sounds pretty fiesty to me [03:17] and??? [03:17] vidd: no ... that's edgy [03:17] dam [03:17] vidd: feisty is 2.6.20 [03:17] no to me becuase fiesty has -15 and -16 kernels [03:17] edgy im guessing [03:17] o darn you beat me to it [03:18] :) [03:18] i don't ever worry about the update revision version, just the actaul kernel release version :) [03:18] whicever [03:18] sorry guys [03:18] I promised this laptop to someone friday [03:18] how the heck do you get a .deb from the universe so this guy can get his bcm43xx card to work? [03:19] I wold put windwos on it but id tode not have a disc [03:19] does not have a disc [03:19] vidd: packages.ubuntu.com [03:19] but all they need to do is check email [03:19] so I figure xubuntu [03:20] Shaba1: do you have a wired internet connection to it so you are able to download things? [03:20] now I cannot get that to work with the wireless cared in it [03:20] no [03:20] yes I do [03:20] ah [03:20] you said you had usb right [03:20] but is there ayway to just download it to a usb key [03:21] well, yes ... but its probable that you will need other dependencies [03:21] maxamillion: look to see and have him downoad it also [03:21] no...no other deps...i dont believe.... [03:22] ggrrr [03:22] guys [03:22] I appreciate the help [03:22] but can you people come to a consinsous [03:22] Instead of being the Harvard Debating society [03:23] im working on it.... [03:23] you have ix86 arch? [03:23] vidd: what about bcm43xx-fwcutter? [03:23] its a good thing, at least sometimes becuase someone might think of a better way of doing somthing [03:24] while trying to install wouldnt it tell him he needs the packages and then he can get it from there [03:24] i got it....just need to know if he need ix86, ppc, or something else [03:25] Shaba1, vidd.homelinux.net:8080/downloads [03:25] i uploaded the deb file there === vidd might as well....he's going to need it when he gets gutsy [03:27] Shaba1, you got it now? [03:28] cvhecking [03:28] checking rather [03:29] you *shouldnt* need any other file.... [03:29] let me know when you have it installed on the laptop, and ill tell ya the next step [03:30] Shaba1: you know how to install .deb files? [03:32] 404 error vidd [03:32] http://vidd.homelinux.net:8080/downloads/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb [03:34] ya getting it? [03:34] once it is installed, use the command line and type: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh [03:35] I hope that is it [03:35] becasue it only saved at 21 kb [03:35] just one step after that.... [03:36] its a small file [03:37] it is only a driver...and its compressed [03:38] ok first think [03:38] thing [03:38] how do Ifind the usb drive [03:39] uhhh.... maxamillion ? [03:40] Shaba1, open thundar [03:40] *thunar [03:41] it *should* be listed on the left side [03:41] do you see it? [03:42] applications menu-->system submenu---> thundar file manager [03:42] ok now what [03:42] do you see your usb drive on the left? [03:43] yeah [03:43] looking for that file now [03:43] click it [03:44] then drag the file to the desktop....or open it in thunar === kikr [n=ant@ool-435499fc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-179-62.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] got it open now [03:45] once you open it, you will click "install" then enter your password [03:45] in thundar [03:46] is it installing? [03:47] says its finished installing [03:47] good....close it, and you can remove the usb drive [03:48] right click and eject before removing [03:48] next, use the command line and type: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh [03:49] Jester45, edgy handled umounting the drive when you just pull it out correctly [03:50] vidd [03:50] yeah? [03:50] Resolving svit.epfl.ch... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution [03:51] .... [03:52] hello [03:52] you have the windows disk that came wityh this card? [03:53] nope [03:53] wonderbar.... [03:53] ok....let me get the file you need uploasded.... [03:54] they daugher jut gave me the laptop and the powersupply and the disk that has drivers and diagnostics but not windows [03:54] otherwise I would not have even bothred with xubuntu [03:54] so you have the driver disk for the wireless card? [03:54] no [03:54] I think the wireless care was and add on [03:55] its dell also [03:55] ok...then let me find the right driver [03:55] but I thin it was added after sening [03:55] after the got it [03:56] http://boredklink.googlepages.com/wl_apsta.o [03:57] btw [03:57] yeah? [03:57] yes I do understand networks and technology [03:57] i never said you did [03:58] *didnt [03:58] I just quit my job as a self taught netword admin for a non profit [03:58] but I am a TOTAL windwos person [03:58] sorry to hear that.... [03:58] but someone needs to keep the mal-ware pushers, and the virus-writer employed [03:59] just I am not a complete idiot [04:00] go back to the altiar 8000 days [04:00] i made no asumptions that you were.... [04:00] you dont do this every day, so i woulds not expect yuou to be a wiz [04:00] *wouldnt [04:01] well I know I am asking what seem to you some really simple questions [04:01] ok got the .o file on disk [04:01] no more silly then when i was asking the same questions 9 months ago [04:02] you want to acually move this file to a known location on the new computer....like the desktop..... [04:02] once it is copied.... [04:03] then type sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` [path/to/wl_apsta.o] [04:04] hold on [04:04] I m still tying [04:04] If you moved it to the desktop....the line will look something like: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` /home/username/Desktop/wl_apsta.o [04:04] working on copy and past to the desktop [04:05] I got copy [04:05] not I am trying to rightclick and past [04:05] past [04:05] click and drag *should* do it..... [04:05] done [04:05] now let me scroll back [04:06] i dont think you can paste things to the desktop on edgy [04:06] If you moved it to the desktop....the line will look something like: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` /home/username/Desktop/wl_apsta.o [04:06] be VERY particular about what you type..... [04:07] you want to use the ` key....wich is usually on the ~ key directly above your [tab] key [04:08] unless of course....your laptop keybad is crazy messed up....like mine is=] [04:08] uname [04:08] ASlso...the "d" in Desktop MUST be capitalized [04:09] yes...`uname -r` [04:09] what is uname [04:09] username that I signed on with? [04:09] Shaba1: no [04:09] Shaba1: type "man uname" it will tell you all about it [04:09] `uname -r` is [currently installed linux version] [04:09] Shaba1: and the command "man uname" means "open the manual page for the command 'uname'" [04:09] maxamillion let vidd do this so I do not get a confusion of different instructions [04:10] Shaba1: okies :) [04:10] vid how the heck do I know the "currently install version of linux? [04:11] i'm outta here [04:11] laters [04:11] do I literally type `uname -r is my question [04:11] you dont NEED to know....that is what `uname -r` is for....it gets that for you [04:11] yes you do [04:12] ok [04:12] the ` ` make the command inside run and the output to be replaced right there [04:12] and dont forget the ` after it to [04:12] its a shortcut [04:12] well you did not put that in there vidd [04:12] but thanks [04:13] .... [04:13] im sure i did...i copy/pasted it right from tyhe instructions.... === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.143.166] has joined #xubuntu [04:14] once that finishes....(you will get your command line prompt) type modprobe bcm43xx [04:14] whoops.... [04:14] sudo modprobe bcm43xx [04:15] then reboot [04:15] and enjoy your internet connection [04:15] acually....you probably dont need to reboot.... [04:15] just sudo ifdown eth1 [04:16] and sudo ifup eth1 [04:16] Ok before I hit enter on this line [04:16] is /home/username/Desktop [04:16] is username literally that [04:16] or is it the username I signed in with to xubuntu [04:16] replace username with your ACTUAL username.... [04:17] see [04:17] on my system ist vidd-desktop.... [04:18] on my first round i said [path/to/wl_apsta.o] [04:18] ok bunch of text flashed on the secreen [04:19] extracting a whold buch of file [04:19] good.... [04:19] you have your prompt back? [04:19] yeah [04:20] it said some of them did not extract though [04:20] did you get ANY error messages? [04:21] Sorry it is not posible to extract "bcm43xx_microcode13.fw [04:22] i've got all that here extracted if it'd help [04:22] "Extracting firmware from adn old driver is bad. choose a more recent one. [04:22] Shaba1, is that the only one? === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.143.166] has left #xubuntu [] [04:22] yep [04:23] good... [04:23] now sudo modprobe bcm43xx [04:24] then try to browse [04:25] you might be able to at this point because you already set up the network settings,,,,, [04:25] for what [04:25] but you might need to take down the settings and reload them..... [04:25] what settings [04:25] just go to google or something [04:25] the network conection settings you did at the very beginning [04:26] noda [04:26] ok...that is fine.... [04:26] sudo ifdown eth1 [04:26] then sudo ifup eth1 [04:27] then iwconfig [04:27] interface eth1 is already configured [04:28] you need to do sudo ifdown first [04:28] same theing as before on iwconfig [04:28] THEN sudo ifup eth1 [04:28] already configured === AlexC [n=chatzill@dragnet2034196189.dragnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [04:29] i think i need libc6-dev [04:29] are you typing sudo ifdown eth1? [04:29] now you did not tell me to [04:29] where can i download it via ftp? [04:29] (not apt) [04:29] i most certainly did..... [04:29] like 6 times [04:30] oK here we go [04:30] now I think I am geting something [04:30] I am seeing dhcp discover broadcast [04:30] good.... [04:30] and the cards liigh is one [04:30] now we are working [04:31] ok....go see if you can browse [04:31] or beter yet..... [04:31] no DHCP offers revieved [04:31] wht is not good [04:31] AlexC: what arch do you need? 64, I386 ppc? [04:31] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [04:31] x86 [04:32] hrm.... [04:32] jester45: i need the paks needed for development in C [04:32] do you have any authentication set up on the wireless router? [04:32] was that for me vid [04:32] or MAC filtering? [04:32] yeha old one [04:32] no make filtering though [04:32] just web encryption [04:32] AlexC: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/libdevel/libc6-dev [04:32] i think libc6-dev is what i need [04:32] thanks [04:33] and i set the key already [04:33] did you verify the wep key is entered correctly? they are tricky sometimes.... [04:34] same one as I use on this laptop [04:34] but network setting did not speicifcally say WEP [04:34] but hexdecimal [04:34] go to sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces [04:35] is your wep key hex or ascii? [04:35] ASCII i THINK [04:35] sorry [04:35] (hexidecimal or pasephrase) [04:35] its a bunch of numbers [04:35] yeah, it's ok so [04:36] jester25, i need a download link, what repo is it in? main, universe etc [04:36] Shaba1, you will want to verify the key on your router..... [04:37] ok I id pico [04:37] make sure it is hex [04:37] it goves me something that looks like a wordstar screen [04:37] yes.... [04:38] use the arrow keys to scroll down so you can view the wep key [04:38] AlexC: ok [04:38] and make sure it is IDENTICAL to the wep key in your router [04:38] it's main [04:38] 64bit hex [04:38] libc6-dev: GNU C Library: Development Libraries and Header Files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-0ubuntu14 (feisty), package size 2947 kB, installed size 12236 kB [04:38] I just checked it on the configureation on this laptop === vidd is booting his laptop so he can view his config [04:39] http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.5-0ubuntu14_i386.deb [04:40] ty, so much [04:40] vid arrow kesy do nothing on that [04:41] now on my interfaces....it does not say anything about what kind of encryption.... [04:41] vidd: do you have any idea on the style of website you want? have you started it ? i could get it going [04:41] I am still at aht pico screen [04:41] Jester45, wrong window for this.... [04:42] does the entry for "wireless-key" match the entry for your router exactly? [04:43] see a black screen [04:43] with a buuch of control keys [04:43] on the bottome that seem to do noting [04:44] there is nothing writen there? [04:44] not a thinkg [04:45] just what looks like wordstar key shortcuts [04:45] that do not seem to respontd [04:45] ah...then you must have mistyped.... [04:45] hit [ctrl] [x] to get out.... [04:46] and type again... [04:47] sudo /etc/network/interfaces [04:47] tab completion will help.... [04:47] no pico [04:47] yes...pico...sorry [04:48]