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DexterFkub sets "ati" for radeon for reasons beyond be, and no, that's not the same as "radeon"12:17
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sadifrog: where i need to write this problems about beryl? DexterF just wanted to help12:17
DexterFthat's one thing12:17
nosrednaekimDexterF: yes it is the same thing.12:17
DexterFsad: 2.16.10 rather sounds like a kernel or gnome version. i meant the Kubuntu version12:18
DexterFnosrednaekim: no it ain't12:18
ifrogsad, could you tell me again what the problem was ?12:18
hendauscan i use yahoo messenger on kubuntu?12:18
ifrogi was not here.12:18
serciksomone is good with data recovery??12:18
serciki have killed one partition :(12:18
DexterFsercik: define "killed"12:18
serciki have done shift+del on harddisk on desktop12:18
sadifrog: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" i got this message12:19
nosrednaekimDexterF: ati automatically selects radeon.. ati also inclues the r128 driver.. its kinda a meta package12:19
serciki tought that was a shortcut!12:19
hendaushelpers!!!! can i use yahoo messenger on kubuntu?12:19
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nosrednaekimhendaus: yeppers12:19
_4strOhendaus: yes with gaim or pidgin or kopette12:19
serciki have canceled immediatly, but know when i mount partion it appears empty12:19
DexterFnosrednaekim: not here at least. no 3D with ati, set it to radeon manually, tadaa.12:19
_4strOnot sure about kopette12:19
hendausnosrednaekim:  yepper?12:19
sadifrog: beryl not working....12:19
ifrogsad, which card ?12:20
sercikDexterF: is not possible that i have completely deleted partition is few swconds!12:20
hendaus_4strO:  which one is better/12:20
serciki have canceled immediatly12:20
DexterFnosrednaekim: even if they symlink to the same file doesn't mean noone in the startup process makes "if" choices from evaluating the call12:20
_4strOi like pidgin12:20
nosrednaekimsercik: ummm... was that your root partiton?12:20
nosrednaekimhendaus: yes.12:20
sercikno12:20
nosrednaekimkopete does work.12:20
nosrednaekimwith yahoo12:20
sercikwas a ntfs partition12:20
DexterFsercik: you pressed shift+del in *what*12:20
sercikyes! shift+del12:20
nosrednaekimDexterF:  thats very interesting.12:20
sercikbut i have canceled immediattly12:20
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NickPrestahendaus: I prefer Pidgin (Gaim), although with the 3.5.7 update, Kopete is more usable now (and faster). Try both and see which you like12:20
sadDexterF: Feisty Favn12:21
nosrednaekimsercik: how much data did you lose?12:21
sercik20 Giga!12:21
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sercikbut repeat is not possible that in few second linux have deleted 20 giga12:21
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nosrednaekimsercik: wait.. it deleted all 20 gigabytes in 1 second?12:21
serciki have done shift +del and then after few seonds 2-3 i have presse enter12:22
DexterFsad: that would be 7.04. I have rather decent results here with Xorg's own radeon module. with a little driconf tweaking even Google Earth works. I guess it stops at games tho12:22
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sercikto cancel12:22
_4strOsercik: it is, you have just delete some octet in the partition table12:22
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serciki'm sure that i have not deleted12:22
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sercikin just 2-3 seconds12:22
sadDexterF: yeah i just downloaded 2 days ago12:22
sercikfor now i have done  sudo dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/media/G/hda6.img12:22
DexterFsercik: if you lost ntfs data, probably only the Master File Table was overwritten. unmount, don't touch the partition, get a clean system and Stellar Phoenix, I got very good results with that one, but it's payware and need windows.12:23
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DexterF(now *that's* offtopic)12:23
sercik"/dev/hda6 is the partition that i have deleted12:23
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nosrednaekimsercik: no experience with recovering ntfs partition data... you might want to look in trash though?12:24
DexterFsercik: if you by accident deleted a partiton table entry gpart might help12:24
serciki don't think i have deleted partition table12:24
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serciki have only pressed shift+del on partition icon on desktop12:25
serciki don't understand why some icons appears randomly on my desktop12:25
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DexterFsercik: did you fire up a konsole and see if you can read the disk from there? maybe was really only an icon...12:26
_4strOsercik: lol ok12:26
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sercikDexterF: i have done12:26
sercikit12:26
sercikand appears empty12:26
momohzllo12:27
DexterFtough luck. then it's Phoenix. that is, that's why I would do12:27
hendaushelpers!! why kopete and amsn doesnot have microphone?12:27
sercikis very strange i have 5 partition mounted but noone appears on desktop12:27
sercikexcept /dev/hda6 tha i have deleted :((12:27
NickPresta@sercik: check your /media folder.12:27
sercikamsn have microphone12:28
momoit's the first time i use ubuntu can anyone help me ?12:28
nosrednaekimhendaus: you mean voice capability?12:28
hendausnosrednaekim: yes12:28
nosrednaekimmomo: sure.. whats the problem?12:28
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nosrednaekimhendaus: yahoo has a voice service?12:28
NickPresta@momo: Ask your question. What do you need help with?12:28
momowell i tried to install it and i deleted wondows12:28
hendausnosrednaekim:  on kopete?12:29
nosrednaekimmomo: ok... well, some would say you are better off now..12:29
momoi'm searchin to play avi & mp3 files12:29
momolol12:29
momobut i dont know where i can find codecs12:29
nosrednaekimmomo: install libxine-extracodecs12:29
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nosrednaekimmomo: do you know how to install software in Adept?12:30
sercikif you start amarok and try to play an mp3 it will install codecs for you12:30
momowhats Adept ?12:30
sercik_4strO: is not comics is dramatic :(12:30
DexterFmomo: google for "mediabuntu" and read up. enlightenment will dawn.12:30
sercik!multimedia12:31
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ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications12:31
NickPresta@momo: Search here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty for commonly asked questions and their solutions (most of which apply to Kubuntu)12:31
sercikbut in feisty multimedia is not already installed??12:31
DexterFmomo: package manager. unless you're really on Ubuntu, not Kubuntu. then you're in the wrong channel anyway12:31
momono i'm usin Ubuntu12:32
nosrednaekimmomo: Adept is the one stop shop for pretty much anything you need to install12:32
nosrednaekimmomo: in that case, its called synaptic12:32
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hattahow can I make konqueror always use "detailed list view"?12:33
nosrednaekimhatta: switch to detailed list view, and then "save view profile" under "settings"12:34
hattathanks12:35
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momoanother question12:35
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hattahow do I get it to display . and ..?12:36
minty_hey can any1 help me with beryl please?12:36
DexterFhatta: I think that's not implemented. If you ever figure, lemme know, I'm really missing ..12:36
momocan i play widows games ? like age of empires ?12:36
hendaushelpers i need someone help me with installing java?12:36
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RawSewagewww.winehq.com12:36
minty_momoo use a program called wine12:36
DexterFmomo: unlikely. google for "cedega", if you happen to have an NV video card.12:37
DexterFif you are on ATi, no go12:37
minty_Dexter u any good with beryl?12:37
RawSewagehttp://appdb.winehq.org/12:37
DexterFminty_: well.... depends12:37
momothanx12:37
momoi'll try12:37
DexterFminty_: I got it working :P12:37
minty_help me start it lol12:37
minty_thats good enuff help12:37
minty_lol12:37
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minty_it just came with some huge meeage in konsole mentioned summin bout glx12:38
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DexterFhttp://pastebin.ca/53793112:39
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hendausany helper can help with java installation, thanx12:39
nzkMy computer is running very slowly.12:39
nzkLike no media will play in real time12:39
minty_nvidia-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary kernel module source12:40
nzkLoad average at 3 or 4 constantly12:40
minty_DEX DO I WANT THAT 1?12:40
nzkWhat can I do?12:40
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minty_soz bout caps12:40
DexterFadd those to the device section, write a composite section (google), install beryl and beryl-manager, that's about it12:40
DexterFminty_: dont yell at me12:40
minty_:(12:40
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nzkminty_, From the 4 seconds I've been here, you sound no older than 11.12:40
DexterFnzk: disks on DMA?12:41
nzkDexterF, ?12:41
NickPresta@hendaus: http://tinyurl.com/2kn8dw Use that wiki.12:41
DexterFnzk: well, *should* the machine play media alright?12:41
nzkYes12:41
nzkThis time last year it was playing better than Windows12:41
nosrednaekimnzk: whats the top program in "alt+esc"12:41
nzkwith every concurrent reformat it gets slower and slower12:41
hendausNickPresta: i have the intructions but i need someone help me with it12:41
NickPresta@hendaus: What exactly do you need help with then?12:42
nzknosrednaekim, I looked at top, it gave no help. Theres nothing out of the ordinary12:42
DexterFnzk: check sudo hdparm /dev/hda (or /dev/sda or whatever your main disk is)12:42
nzkAnd?12:43
DexterFsee if DMA is on12:43
hendausNickPresta:  come here--> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable12:43
claygif you just got a new laptop what dist would you feel comfortable installing? is fiesty stable enough to give it a whirl? Last time I used it, dapper was better than edgy even though edgy was "stable" at the time12:43
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nosrednaekimclayg: fiesty should be fine12:43
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minty_            HOW OLD ARE YOU NZK?12:44
NickPresta@hendaus: You don't need to download the JRE from Java.com and such. You can use your package manager. Do you have any specific reason for using Sun's version over the version in the repo?12:44
DexterFnzk:  using_dma    =  1 (on) is the line. if not, well, no clue how to do it on kub.... somewhere in /etc/init.d I guess12:44
minty_sorry about caps12:44
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nosrednaekimclayg: what laptop model?12:44
minty_n so what if i am12:44
nzkDexterF, it has that line12:44
nzkminty_, old enough not to have a finger glued to the Caps Lock.12:44
hendausNickPresta:  mozilla firefox if i open a site it says click to install plugin, and then i got to this site12:44
DexterFnzk: hm. more hard disks than those?12:44
DexterF*this12:45
nzkonly one12:45
clayghp dv6000t, only reason I asked if when I was using it alot as main os dapper "worked better" than edgy, even though edgy was "Stable" at the time.  you were just better off using dapper12:45
minty_my password is in caps lol12:45
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claygwondering if there is a dist not as new that is better, it wasn't a huge difference i think it came down to one thing not working vanilla and i said "fk it" and went back to dapper12:46
nosrednaekimclayg: I just read a report about a guy getting that working perfectly.. everythin12:46
hendausNickPresta:  i mean then i got to the plugins site12:46
claygon fiesty?12:46
claygawsome12:46
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nosrednaekimclayg: dappers too old not.12:46
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nosrednaekim*now12:46
NickPresta@hendaus: You use your package manager (Adept) to install plugins and such. You don't need to download them from anywhere.12:46
claygyeah but at the time it was the best for me, but could never get wow to work on it12:46
nzkminty_, your constant use of "AOL speak" also gives you away12:46
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DexterFnzk: anyway, check top and who draws the most juice, I gotta run for now12:47
nzkFirefox12:47
nzknot even 30%12:47
hendausNickPresta:  i installed from adept sun java 5 , and 2 p;ugins12:47
clayghow hard is it to get wow working and running nicely now?12:47
SilentDis!nvidia12:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:47
nosrednaekimclayg: http://www.venturecake.com/?p=112:47
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NickPresta@hendaus: Then what do you need help with?12:47
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hendausNickPresta:  i got to the plugin java website, and i gave u the instruction site12:48
nosrednaekimclayg: about as easy as installing windows..;)12:48
hendausNickPresta:  i need to continue with me, coz on terminal i am now done at: root@hendaus:/usr/lib#12:49
minty_AOL speak?12:49
NickPresta@hendaus: I'm aware that you gave me the instructions to installing the JRE from Sun's website. I'm telling you that you don't need to do that - you can use the repo's version unless you have a specific reason not to.12:49
minty_i.e short hand12:49
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nzkminty_, yes, AOL speak, 'Text Speak', whatever you youngsters call it12:50
minty_youngster?>?? how old ru12:50
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MinceRyoung whippersnappers ;)12:50
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minty_haha12:50
ramamadhuhaha12:50
nosrednaekimlol12:50
hendausNickPresta:  did u read the instruction12:50
nosrednaekimwippersnapper speak12:50
SilentDishello.  how do I get to the "Restricted Devices Manager" in Kubuntu 7.04?  trying to get my nvidia card setup.12:50
nosrednaekim^^12:50
claygshweety nosrednaekim12:51
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ramamadhuhey guys anyone know about sound problem in ubuntu7.0412:51
nosrednaekimSilentDis: co into adept and install restricted manager12:51
NickPresta@hendaus: To install the mozilla plugin, use your package manager12:51
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ramamadhuhey guys anyone know about sound problem in ubuntu7.0412:51
nosrednaekimramamadhu: whats your hardware?12:51
minty_dester http://pastebin.ca/53805912:51
minty_look at that12:51
ramamadhuits an p312:52
SilentDisnosrednaekim: thanks :)12:52
clayger sweet rather, and thanks for the link, this isn't the same model but i'd bet dollars to donuts the same stuff is used inside for the most part with the exception of cpu which isn't anything special that i have, i.e. souldn t be a problem, this studio looks kinda cool, i wanna make a video of me destroying people, and thrashing epic mbos12:52
ramamadhuis that what u r asking?12:52
hendausNickPresta:  cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins <-- u see this for mozilla plugins12:52
nosrednaekimclayg: oh you got a AMD one?12:52
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hendausNickPresta:  i install from packages and doesnot work12:52
nosrednaekimramamadhu: wow.. a a sound problem on a P3 MB?12:52
claygno i mean i have the 6000 which is larger but im sure it will be very compat12:53
NickPrestaWhat does not work specifically. There are many, many users who have successfully installed the java plugin for mozilla from the repo. What problems are you having?12:53
SilentDisnosrednaekim: i'm in adept right now, did a search for "restricted manager" (no quotes) and came up blank.  any idea on the package name?12:53
claygor the same "group" of things are included in a sort of "this is what hp uses for the insides" crap12:53
nosrednaekimclayg: oh..lol12:53
claygbut if you are asking my class,  it's a mage12:53
ramamadhui dint get you, can you please explain.thanks12:53
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claygfrot specced with enough points in arcane for imp cs12:53
nosrednaekimSilentDis: restricted--manager maybe?12:53
nosrednaekimone dash.. sorry12:53
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nosrednaekimramamadhu: have you ever heard sound?12:54
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SilentDisnosrednaekim: no worries, i'm used to using aptitude from a prompt anyway, adept doesn't ever seem to find what i'm looking for lol12:54
nosrednaekimlol12:54
hendausNickPresta:  r u there12:54
ramamadhuyes, i have a problem in capture and recording as wellas in skype.but otherwise sound is good.thanks12:54
NickPresta@hendaus: I'm here - how did the package from the repo "not work"?12:55
nosrednaekimramamadhu: ah.. ok. skype. so its really your line in or mic that you are having problems with?12:55
hendausNickPresta: i dont know, but why u dont help me by the site12:55
ramamadhuyeh, itested my mic with windows its fine.12:55
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ramamadhuso problem in linux12:56
nosrednaekimramamadhu: did you mess around with all the kmix settings?12:56
ramamadhuyep did all those.12:56
ramamadhumess12:56
ramamadhubut negative12:57
BluesKajalsamixer too ?12:57
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ramamadhuwhat to do now?12:58
phil101how do i turn on 3d desktop12:58
nosrednaekimphil101: did you get all the packages?12:59
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phil101i dont know what i should be looking for01:00
momowhere do i put tis command : # apt-get install  ??01:00
ramamadhui have searched in google too but no result01:00
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phil101apt-get install what?01:01
momowine01:01
phil101i have wine install01:01
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momohow can i install it ?01:02
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nosrednaekimmomo: on the command line.01:02
phil101i mean somethin like beryl01:02
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nosrednaekimmomo: did you get libxine-extracodecs01:02
nosrednaekimphil101: did you install beryl?01:02
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momoi got codecs , my MP3 files & AVI work01:03
phil101let me try01:03
ramamadhuare u thr01:03
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momobut i don't know if these are libxine-extracodec or not01:03
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nosrednaekimmomo: ok.01:04
nosrednaekimmomo: you can also install wine from synaptic01:04
momowhat's synaptic ?01:04
nosrednaekimmomo: thats the package manager. It graphically installs software01:05
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BluesKajadept too01:05
nosrednaekimrun the command "sudo synaptic" in the command line01:05
nosrednaekimBluesKaj:  hes actually on ubuntu01:05
momohow to run the command line ?01:05
momoi use french language01:06
nosrednaekimmomo: I don't remember where it in ubuntu.01:06
nosrednaekimmomo: you could go to the french channel01:06
momohow ?01:06
momoi dont see channels01:07
dasnipa!fr01:07
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:07
momo!fr01:07
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momothanx01:07
nosrednaekim type this into where you would normally type messages in to send to us "ubuntu-fr"01:07
nosrednaekimsorry make that "/join #ubuntu-fr"01:08
momoall right01:08
momothank you , i'm in the french channel01:08
nosrednaekimmomo: of they can't answer your questions  come back ehre01:10
momook01:10
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Qb_Master.06:43
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DarkkishHello? I just glued my foot to my moniter, can anyone help me?06:44
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crimsunamputate.06:44
crimsunnext question?06:44
Qb_Masterrotfl06:44
Qb_Masterhaha okay I'll explain the situation a bit :)06:44
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intelikey<Minataku> It could also have been just some freak error <<<< that's one is the thing i have always stuck with.   still believe it is.  but don't believe that it would have happened with ext2 in place of ext3     i can't say i have a good reason for that just that two in a month is way to high of odds for the million to one approach.   and if things aren't working you "change something"    i did,  ext3 to ext2    no more e06:44
Qb_MasterI just reinstalled Kubuntu (had 6.06, reinstalled fresh to 7.04)06:44
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Qb_Masteron 7.04 I can't get my belkin wireless NIC to work06:45
hitmanWillyDarkkish: sorry, that's a hardware issue :P06:45
Qb_Masterit shows up in the pci listing06:45
Minatakuintelikey: Heh06:45
MinatakuFair enough XD06:45
Qb_Masterbut not in the network listing06:45
MinatakuBut like I said, sorry for being a bit of an ass ;306:45
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Qb_Masterthe only thing that shows up there is the wired ethernet which isn't what I'm using06:46
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MinatakuQb_Master: Perhaps it's not properly supported?06:46
Qb_Master(it's a Belkin F5D5000, on M$ it uses rtl8180.sys, a RealTek driver)06:46
MinatakuIt could show up in lspci and be completely unusable06:46
Qb_Masterit worked fine in 6.0606:46
MinatakuHm06:46
intelikey:)   and like i said don't worry about it.    i don't...06:46
Qb_MasterI read a loooot of people have been having wireless nic problems in 7.04 on some forum06:46
Minatakuincorrect: Heehee06:46
dark|slydeim new to everything that has to do with kubuntu or any other nix distro. i wanted to know where i can find information on accessing my external hdd (usb) on kubuntu. just installed it an hour ago06:47
dwidmannQb_Master: worst comes to worst, you could just install the 6.06 kernel and see if it wants to work then06:47
MinatakuQb_Master: Perhaps there's an open bug, I'm not sure06:47
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Minatakudark|slyde: Plug it in.06:47
dark|slydehow do i access the files?06:47
terrestrecheck the folder06:47
MinatakuIf you're using KDE, it should have put an icon on the desktop06:47
terrestreqq dice /media06:47
Qb_Masterwell is there maybe a generic wireless driver that would work?06:47
intelikeyoh am i lagging again....   crap.06:48
MinatakuDouble-click it (or whatever action you specified for it to use)06:48
Qb_Master(other than ndiswrapper)06:48
dark|slydeok, ill try that06:48
MinatakuQb_Master: What did it work with in 6.XX?06:48
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MinatakuDid it need ndiswrapper there?06:48
intelikeyok back in a while.06:48
Small_Mack since there's most likely no kubuntu-ubuntu channel, i'll ask here: which should i use, kubuntu or ubuntu, narrowing down question: which runs faster for everyday task (with beryl running) i stuck with kubuntu on my last install, but it seemed slow06:48
Qb_Masterit worked right "out of the box"06:48
MinatakuSmall_Mac: Dangerous question. Not answering.06:48
hitmanWillyQb_Master: wireless cards are still do different from each other for a generic driver to work06:49
Small_Macand i had the impression that kde is slower than gnome.. is that true06:49
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Qb_Masterhmm06:49
MinatakuSmall_Mac: Also too dangerous.06:49
MinatakuUse what you like06:49
Small_Mac...06:49
MinatakuYou can always have both on one system06:49
MinatakuTest out both and settle with the one you think is best06:49
Small_Macbut i just want one linux =( is it because stubborn people might join in the discussino and start nonsense06:49
MinatakuIt is one Linux06:50
Qb_MasterSmall_Mac: do you like macs or windows better?06:50
Qb_Masterlol06:50
Small_Macwindows06:50
MinatakuYou can have multiple DE/WMs on one Linux installation06:50
Qb_Masterthen Kubuntu06:50
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Qb_MasterUbuntu is more like mac in terms of the look/feel06:50
MinatakuOn my walkabout laptop I have about 10 installed06:50
MinatakuDespite using one06:50
Small_Macthx Qb_Master, yeah see that was much more insightful, but ur concerns are understable as well i guess =)06:51
Qb_Master:)06:51
Small_Macunderstandable*06:51
darkslydeit told me new media, but nothing happened when i selected open in new window06:51
MinatakuSmall_Mac: Such questions tend to cause wars06:51
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MinatakuWith groupies for either side attacking the other06:51
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Qb_Masteryeah I'm considering going back to 6.0606:52
Small_Macyeah those people prolly got no life to start with06:52
MinatakuQb_Master: There's no doubt a way to fix it06:52
MinatakuSmall_Mac: Now, now06:52
Small_Maci'm neutral still...just saying06:52
MinatakuSome people are passionate about things06:52
Qb_Masteryah06:52
MinatakuJust because someone feels it's right to stand up for their favorite doesn't mean they have no life06:52
Qb_Masterif I could connect here while I was on it, I maybe could get some help with it lol06:53
dwidmannMinataku: but in such a biased channel, that war would be pretty one sided ;)06:53
Small_MacMinataku i'm all for standing up for their favorite, but it seems that the masses are just following blindly and taking a side to pretend like they know anythig06:53
MinatakuQb_Master: I'm wondering if someone who built the kernel didn't drop the ball and leave out some important drivers06:53
darkslydeafter i plugged the usb hdd, it told me about it, but nothing happened when i selected open in new window and clicked ok06:53
MinatakuSmall_Mac: You'd have to be pretty stupid to not know if you like one thing over another because of personal preference06:54
Small_Macanyway, is the question: what's the difference between kde and gnome safer? if so, how are they different, maybe i'll just ! the terms06:54
Small_Mac!kde06:54
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.06:54
Small_Mac!gnome06:54
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.06:54
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Small_Macwow that was informative hehe06:54
MinatakuThe bot is kinda stupid06:54
Qb_Masterhmm06:54
Qb_MasterMinataku: that's possible06:54
MinatakuIt's functionality and informative capabilities are slowly declining06:55
dthackerthe bot is politically correct06:55
Small_Mac!dance06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
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MinatakuNot that it's information bank was all too useful in the first place06:55
Qb_MasterI'm not 100% noobish when it comes to linux but I don't know much about installing drivers yet lol06:55
Qb_Masteralways found it complicated to do06:55
Minatakudthacker: There's a difference between political correctness and completely useless06:55
Small_Macamen lol06:56
Small_Maci can't believe i said amen06:56
Small_Macbut that's what came to mind06:56
MinatakuQb_Master: I'm wondering if the module is there and not just inserted or what06:56
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dwidmannQb_Master: you probably find it complicated to do because it is complicated to do. Such is often the case :O06:56
Qb_Masterhehe06:56
terrestrehow i can know my ubuntu release? i forget the command06:56
Qb_Masterso how do I go about diagnosing how to do this then?06:56
Small_Macuname -r06:56
Qb_Masteror do I just wait?06:56
MinatakuQb_Master: Check inside /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/drivers/06:56
MinatakuFor a realtek-looking one06:56
Small_Macterrestre uname -r06:56
dthackermaybe there is, but I'm not here to argue, I'm here to learn06:57
terrestrethats the kernel version06:57
MinatakuScratch06:57
Small_Maco06:57
hitmanWillyor just lsmod | grep realtek06:57
Small_Macnvm then that was the only one i know06:57
MinatakuQb_Master: Check inside /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/kernel/net/06:57
terrestrebut the ubuntu release06:57
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Won't work06:57
DaSkreechSmall_Mac: You can turn off pretty stuff for KDE to make it run faster i guess06:57
MinatakuWe're looking for a present but uninserted module06:58
hitmanWillyoh yeah, that's just loaded ones, heh....06:58
Qb_Masterk06:58
Qb_Masterwell06:58
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Qb_MasterI'll have to get as much instruction as possible, then reboot06:58
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MinatakuSlow down06:58
dwidmannDaSkreech: heck, if you wanted to, you could even use something like fluxbox as your kde wm :)06:58
MinatakuQb_Master: Go look in /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/kernel/net/06:58
Qb_MasterI'm currently in Xp - this comp is dualbooted06:58
MinatakuOh06:58
Small_MacDaSkreech cool, could u give me a quick example of what to turn off, if u can easily recall, just for reference06:58
Darkkish>_> Doh06:59
MinatakuIn that case06:59
Small_Macwhat's wm btw06:59
MinatakuSomeone with 7.0whatever help me here06:59
MinatakuLook in there for realtek drivers >.<06:59
Small_Macminataku said something about multiple wm in one linux, was kinda lost so i let that go earlier =)06:59
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MinatakuI use Gentoo and compile my kernels to have only what they need and very few modules for things I don't use often06:59
DaSkreechSmall_Mac: bunch anti-aliasing stuff etc06:59
MinatakuSo I don't know what's in there06:59
DaSkreech Small_Mac if I knew the specs on your machine it would be easier to decide07:00
MinatakuWM is Window Manager07:00
darkslydei really cant find my external dd07:00
darkslydehdd07:00
Minatakudarkslyde: Open a terminal and check in /media07:00
dwidmannSmall_Mac: run a program called kpersonalizer07:00
dwidmannIt has lots of options regarding it07:00
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MinatakuI'm wondering if KDE goofed and decided not to bother with it07:01
darkslydeokkkkk07:01
hitmanWillydarkslyde: try sudo fdisk -l in a console and look for something like the external hdd07:01
MinatakuOr even better, let's see if they were automounted07:01
MinatakuNo, no, no07:01
MinatakuType "mount"07:01
MinatakuAnd pastebin it07:01
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darkslydeit says /dev/sda107:03
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Qb_Masterokay well07:03
darkslydentfs07:03
Qb_MasterI'm going to go try that07:03
Minatakudarkslyde: That sounds like it07:03
MinatakuPaste the whole line for me07:03
Qb_MasterI guess I could cnxn here from the other computer07:03
MinatakuRight here07:03
Qb_Masterbut it's in the other room07:03
MinatakuJust that one07:03
Qb_Masterso I'll have to do a lot of walking :P07:04
Darkkishlol07:04
Small_MacDaSkreech ah srry, accidentally went afk, my specs are 1gb ram 3ghz cpu 120gb harddrive07:04
MinatakuQb_Master: Well, look in there for realtek drivers07:04
Qb_Masterokay07:04
Qb_Mastershould I also do a search?07:04
MinatakuAnd do "sudo modprobe nameofdriver"07:04
MinatakuLeave off the .ko07:04
darkslydeDisk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes07:04
darkslyde255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders07:04
darkslydeUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes07:04
darkslyde   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System07:04
darkslyde/dev/sda1               1       30401   244196001    7  HPFS/NTFS07:04
Qb_Masterk07:04
MinatakuAll the files in there will have .ko on the end07:04
Small_MacDaSkreech i guess i'm really asking for whether there is a gui for turning features on or off in kde (kubuntu feisty)07:04
darkslydei cant even get into it07:05
DaSkreechkpersonalizer07:05
Minatakudarkslyde: No, I wanted the output of "mount"07:05
Qb_MasterU gotta write this down lol07:05
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MinatakuForget about fdisk07:05
Small_MacDaSkreech cool thx alot07:05
darkslydeits not on mount07:05
Small_Machmm not sure where to ask this: right after i press enter on login screen, there's a quick flash of screen before things resume normal, i think that might be bad for my monitor, is there some way to fix this, (similar problem, during shut down, the screen flashes and i see concentrated green grid lines as if i can see the inside of the computer, freaky lol) anyway i can fix that07:05
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MinatakuThen it's not mounted07:05
DaSkreechSmall_Mac: sure. If you want to know anything else just ask here :)07:05
darkslydei see07:05
Small_Maccool =)07:06
DaSkreechSmall_Mac: It's loading the resolution that your user has saved07:06
Minatakudarkslyde: Try this. "sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"07:06
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DaSkreechSmall_Mac: no big deal. Do you have an LCD ?07:06
Small_MacDaSkreech ic, yeah it's a laptop07:06
MinatakuTell me what it says, if it went okay it should say nothing07:06
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Qb_Master*I07:07
Qb_Masternot you07:07
Qb_Masterlol07:07
Small_Maci think i get the same thing in windows during game start up07:07
MinatakuKeep in mind this will probably only give you read-only access to it, but we're trying to get this figured out07:07
DaSkreechSmall_Mac: yup same concept07:07
MinatakuSmall_Mac: Ignore it.07:07
MinatakuIt's nothing07:07
darkslydenothing07:07
darkslydeso i guess it went ok07:08
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MinatakuJust VRAM garbage as it switches resolutions07:08
Minatakudarkslyde: Type "ls /mnt/sda1"07:08
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MinatakuYou should see the familiar Windows cruft07:08
darkslydepermission denied07:08
MinatakuHaha, damn07:08
darkslydedid sudo and it worked07:08
MinatakuOkay, so there's nothing wrong with the system or drives or anything07:09
NoldoaranWould someone be willing to help me with a KDE control panel problem??07:09
MinatakuWhat you probably want now is this07:09
Minataku!ntfs07:09
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:09
MinatakuOh, and "sudo umount /dev/sda1"07:09
Small_MacDaSkreech is thee someway to make the resolution transition a little smoother? like telling it to not find out what user has saved, but just use a default, would that help, it's a minor annoyance, so i'm not that hung up on finding a solution07:09
Tired_Hi.  I'm having a weird thing with Samba.  When I move a file to a mounted Samba share, the operation completes, but it gives me this error about insufficient permissions.07:09
MinatakuOur testing is complete, you can unmount it and do it the perscribed way now07:09
darkslydethanks07:09
MinatakuNo problem07:09
MinatakuDo the umount before looking at !ntfs ;307:10
Qb_Masterokay07:10
darkslydei did the umount07:10
Qb_MasterI'm going now07:10
darkslydethanks07:10
Qb_MasterI'll be back in a few min's07:10
Minatakudarkslyde: No problem07:10
Qb_Masterthanks :)07:11
MinatakuNow that we know it works you can do what I should have told you to do in the first place but was too tired to remember XD07:11
darkslydeim installing kubuntu on my latop as well.. trying to switch over07:11
MinatakuWhich is the info at !ntfs07:11
darkslydeheh07:11
Minatakudarkslyde: Good! Let me guess, one look at the Vista Windows offered you and that was it ;307:11
Minataku*"Vista"07:12
MinatakuSince it's a bad pun07:12
MinatakuXD07:12
Tired_How would I have insufficient permission to do something, if it finishes successfully?07:12
MinatakuTired_: That's like when something errors but forgets to set errno07:12
Small_Macis feisty the first kubuntu distribution that can works well with ntfs?07:12
MinatakuIn which case you get the infamous "Error: No error"07:12
MinatakuXD07:13
Small_Maclike recognize it and convert it07:13
darkslydegot vista on my other pc07:13
yknottTired_: i usually get that too through konqueror07:13
MinatakuSmall_Mac: The kernel is still touchy on NTFS write ops07:13
darkslydebut wanted to learn something new07:13
MinatakuRead is fine07:13
Small_Maco, but it works07:13
Small_Mac?07:13
MinatakuSmall_Mac: Works, but not safely07:13
Small_Macic07:13
MinatakuThat's what things like ntfs-3g is for07:13
darkslydeand vista wont run on my laptop so ubuntu was the way to go07:13
Small_Machmm cool07:13
MinatakuWhich has much safer write capability07:13
Tired_yknott -> Do you know how to make it go away?  I want to move thousands of files, and I'd rather not have to click Ok for every one...07:14
MinatakuStill not perfect07:14
MinatakuBut then Windows likes to fudge all over NTFS too07:14
darkslydetrue07:14
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MinatakuSpeaking of fudge... nevermind, I gotta go, probably will go to sleep after so night, all07:14
MinatakuXD07:14
Small_Macso i have a laptop all of which is used for windows xp, what should i do to get kubuntu on their without erasing any existing windows files? i searched google b4, a little confused with parition, used boot magic cuz it came with partition magic, then took 3 hours deleting that crap cuz it made one of my drives invisible =(07:15
dwidmannTired_: is it actually moving them, or giving you permission denied messages? If the latter, ctr+c it and set the permissions and such and then re-run the move07:15
yknottTired_: most of the time i see that when i make too many connections to the samba (windows) share or when i browse the admin shares (partition letter $)07:15
Tired_It completes the move, deletes the original file, then says "Could not change permissions for /mnt/sharename/filename"07:15
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yknottMinataku: that may be, but i would rather win2000 ran atop of ntfs than fat16 or fat3207:16
NotFaintHello all.07:16
Tired_The operation completes perfectly, except for the error07:16
darkslydethat makes no sense07:16
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Tired_Heck, if I could tell it "I don't give a fig about that error", I'd be Ok.07:17
darkslydesame here07:17
dwidmanntired_: something I noticed before, when transferring files over a network with samba, it actually seems a lot faster to tar all of the files first, then send over the tarball07:18
NotFaintLet's say I added a repository for some non-free software that is on it, and apt found all kinds of updates, but some of those updates broke things. Let's say I have no idea what exactly broke what, though, and I want to get rid of everything I got from that repository, like maybe removing all those packages and getting them to reinstall. How do I go about that without knowing exactly what I need to remove?07:18
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Tired_That would require a lot more disk space...I need to move files for that reason  :/07:18
pingvenoI'm having trouble getting aiff files to work in Amarok. It says that there is "No suitable dmux plugin." I dug through its dependencies and found that ffmpeg outputs "Error while parsing header" on aiff files.07:19
darkslydemy ultimate goal is to run lmce07:19
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dwidmannTired_: how about tar --remove-files, that way it removes them after it adds them to the tarball07:19
Tired_I don't think I'd trust that.07:20
Tired_Besides, the error is on the receiving end07:20
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Qb_Masterk there's no files related to realtek or belkin in those folders07:23
Qb_Master(i'm on another computer now, so I can just walk back and forth)07:23
Qb_Masterwhat now?07:23
darkslydeQb_Master: are u looking for a belkin wireless 700f?07:24
Qb_MasterI think so07:24
darkslydei have the same one.. from walmart07:24
Qb_MasterI have a belkin wireless F5D500007:24
darkslydewont let me support it07:25
Qb_Masterya 6.06 supported it07:25
Qb_Master7.04 doesn't seem to have a driver for it07:25
darkslydefeisty got u?07:25
Qb_Masteryah07:25
darkslydeim kinda scared for my laptop07:25
Qb_Masterso I'm here trying to find out how to get one or get it to work with what I have already lol07:25
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darkslydelol07:25
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darkslyderoll back to eft?07:26
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Qb_Masterthought about it but I want to use fiesty07:26
Qb_Mastermaybe if I can get the driver (whatever one that was) from 6.06...07:26
darkslydeim using feisty so i can get lmce 1.1b207:26
darkslydetrue that07:27
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Qb_MasterDarkkish: pm?07:27
darkslydecompatibility issues with 7.04 maybe no more driver?07:27
Qb_Masterya I couldn't locate the driver07:28
Darkkishi can't pm07:28
Darkkishi lost my password.07:28
Qb_Masterlol can you receive notices?07:28
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DarkkishTired_ it's nothing important :p07:29
Darkkishit's nopt any linux tips or anything07:29
Qb_Masterdid you receive my notice just now?07:29
Tired_Darn.  ;)07:29
Darkkishyeah did you get mine?07:29
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Qb_Masterno07:29
Qb_Masterlol07:29
Darkkishdamnit.07:29
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Qb_Masterk 1 min07:29
gobanhi i did sudo apt-get install spe, but i get this: You need to install at least wxPython v2.5.4.1 to run SPE.Get it from http://www.wxpython.org07:29
DarkkishI need to recover my password07:29
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Qb_MasterI'll meebo07:29
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Tired_Aargh!07:31
Tired_This is so frustrating...like being beaten to death with feathers.07:31
Qb_MasterMinataku: you there?07:32
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dwidmannTired_: I wonder if the using the --force option would suppress the errors or not07:35
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Tired_--force option?07:35
dwidmannfor mv, yes07:35
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Hobbseewhat kind of errors?07:36
Tired_That sounds like a console options...not sure how I'd do that for drag and drop in Konq07:36
_Shade_hi there07:36
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dwidmannTired_: erm, you've got a point there07:36
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Tired_I'm sure there's a way, but I bet it involves editing the source for KDE, which is way beyond me07:36
_Shade_how can i connect to a remote desktop on my kubuntu machine using a windows computer?07:36
dwidmannTired_: could be worth doing it in the console though, if it means not being beaten to death with error popups or the like07:37
Qb_Masterso anybody else have any ideas?07:37
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Qb_Masterwhy I can't get a Belkin F5D5000 Wireless Nic to work in Kubuntu 7.04, when it works fine in 6.06?07:37
Qb_Master(works fine as in right out of the box)07:38
tahsinhow do i install x11 mouse themses ?07:38
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Qb_Masterhm, well I guess I'll just have to use a forum07:40
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Qb_Master:( means I can't use Linux tonight07:40
dwidmanntahsin: there's some directory or another that you put them in, but I forget which one it is, why not try installing them through the kcontrol module for cursors?07:40
dwidmannQb_Master: why not try installing dapper's kernel in feisty?07:41
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tahsindwidmann: i cant locate cursor on kcontrol07:42
dwidmanntahsin, come to think of it, it might be under peripherals -> mouse07:42
dwidmannyup, it is07:42
tahsindwidmann: yup found it let me try07:43
Jucatotahsin: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse07:43
JucatoCursor Theme tab07:43
tahsinfound it !07:43
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Qb_Masterdapper's kernel?07:44
Qb_Masteroh07:44
Qb_Masteryeah umm how?07:44
Qb_Masterlol07:44
Darkkishwouldn't that be the same as rolling back?07:44
Qb_Mastercan I have both running at the same time?07:44
dwidmannDarkkish: no, seperate image names, they can be installed in parallel07:45
dwidmannQb_Master: you can have them both installed, but you can only run one kernel at a time (if you disclude things like vmware)07:45
Qb_Masterso then one kernel would be truly 7.04, the other would be 6.06 with internet?07:45
Qb_Master*networking07:45
MinatakuSorry, I have to head to sleep now, I have class tomorrow morning and it's late07:46
Qb_Masteraww :(07:47
MinatakuQb_Master: I'm out of ideas anyway, though, sorry that didn't work07:47
Qb_Masterwas hoping you could help me find a driver lol07:47
Qb_Masterk well07:47
Qb_Masterthanks for helping07:47
Small_Macright now i have kubuntu installed on a logical drive, if i boot into windows and reformat that drive cuz i wanna get rid of kubuntu edgy, would i still be able to start windosw normally, because right now, due to precesnce of kubuntu, there's the black screen that allows me to choose which os to boot into07:47
dwidmannQb_Master: youc an find the debs here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/07:47
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MinatakuYou could compile your own Feisty kernel too07:47
Qb_Masterlol hmm07:48
MinatakuWhich would be a far better idea07:48
Qb_Masterwow, we're talking pretty complicated though now07:48
MinatakuNot really07:48
dwidmannMinataku: it would also be far more complicated and far more work07:48
Qb_MasterI don't have the slightest clue how to do that07:48
Qb_Masteractually, either07:48
Qb_Masterlo07:48
dwidmannalso leaves a lot more room for things to go wrong07:48
Small_Machow do i uninstall kubuntu07:48
MinatakuQb_Master: You could also track down the ass that screwed up and beat him/her up07:48
Qb_Masterhaha07:48
dwidmannMinataku: now we're talking :D07:49
MinatakuHeehee07:49
Qb_Masteryaa!!07:49
Qb_Masterlmao\07:49
Qb_Masterwell I'm hoping that maybe they'll update it on the site :P07:49
Qb_Masterwho can I actually talk to about that if I believe it's an actual glitch?07:49
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MinatakuFile a bug if one doesn't already exist07:49
Qb_Masterwhere at?07:50
dwidmannhttp://launchpad.net07:50
MinatakuI'd say groups of missing drivers is a pretty bad bug07:50
Qb_Masterhaha yah07:50
MinatakuEspecially ones for fairly common chipsets07:50
Qb_Masteryeah this card can be bought at walmart from what I heard07:50
Qb_Masterso it should have support07:50
Qb_Masterlol07:50
MinatakuEspecially since it HAD support07:50
MinatakuReally just sounds to me like some boob dropped the ball07:50
Qb_Masterlmao07:50
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MinatakuNo offense if that boob happens to be in here, of course07:51
startswithzI need help with partitioning on my install07:51
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Small_Maccan i fix mbr without windows cd?07:51
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Qb_Masterlmao07:51
duck_does anyone know a good web development program i can use with Kubuntu?07:51
MinatakuAnyway, I gotta go, I have to wake up at 6AM and it's currently 2AM XD07:51
MinatakuGood luck with your problem, Qb_Master07:51
MinatakuNight, all07:51
startswithzI am trying to set up Kubuntu 7.04  and I'd like to have my root system at sda1 and my home folder at sda3.  how should I set that up?07:52
dwidmannnight Minataku, same time here so I'd best go to sleep too07:52
Qb_Masterthanks :)07:52
Qb_Masternite07:52
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Qb_Masterokay thanks as well dwidmann :)07:52
Qb_Masternite07:52
dwidmannthrow my whole routine off if I stay up this late as it is ... seeing as I have to be up at 3am on Fri-Sun07:52
Qb_MasterI need sleep too - school tmrw07:53
dwidmannlater07:53
Qb_Masterl8r07:53
duck_does anyone know a good web development program i can use with Kubuntu?07:53
Qb_MasterI'ma post the bug then go to bed I suppose07:53
dwidmannduck_: quanta+07:54
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dwidmannfor the whole deal install the "kdewebdev" package07:55
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startswithzI just installed kubuntu and I cannot get it to boot07:56
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startswithzif I put the live cd in and go to boot from harddrive it works07:56
startswithzbut if not I can't get past grub07:56
darkslydewhats the command to see the list of processes?07:56
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Tired_top ?07:57
darkslydehow bout to kill a process?07:58
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darkslyde:D im kinda new to the whole linux thing07:58
startswithzto kill a process it's "kill"07:58
startswithzif I'm not mistaken07:58
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darkslydekill [pid]  ?07:59
startswithzI think so07:59
startswithzcheck the man08:00
darkslydethanks08:00
Tired_get htop...it's nicer in the console08:00
startswithzI just reinstalled Kubuntu and I am getting "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition Press any key to continue...08:01
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Jack3how do i know if my cpu is big or little endian08:02
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crimsunJack3: what CPU is it?08:04
Jack3ah nvm08:04
Jack3intel=little08:04
crimsunwell, _most_ Intels are by default LE.08:04
Small_Machm how do i uninstall kubuntu so that window can still boot correctly08:05
Qb_Mastergrr08:05
Small_Macmy laptop came with no window cd08:05
Qb_Masterlaunchpad is offline08:05
Qb_MasterI can't post a bug08:05
Qb_Masterlol that's messed up08:05
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crimsunit's the weekly Tuesday maintenance window08:05
Qb_Masteroh okay lol08:05
crimsunjust try again in an hour08:05
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Qb_Masterit came back up lol08:06
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Tired_It knew you wanted on.08:06
Tired_;)08:07
Qb_Masterhaha ya08:07
Tired_how's that for service?  brought it back up just for you08:07
Tired_;)08:07
Qb_Masteryep lmao08:08
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dogatemycomputerduck_: I use Bluefish but i'm told NVU is great too.08:09
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startswithzcan someone help me manually set up the partition table from the install menu for kubuntu 7.04?08:17
Qb_Masterk nite guys :)08:17
Qb_Masterthanks for helping08:17
Admiral_Chicagostartswithz: waht do you need...08:18
Admiral_Chicagoi mean specifically.08:19
startswithzI want to set it up so that my home folder is on a different partition08:19
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startswithzroot at sda1 and /home at sda3 with swap at sda508:19
startswithzI tried it on my own but messed something up.  grub says the partition is unbootable08:19
Admiral_Chicagostartswithz: in KDE, you can just lik to your home folder in system settins08:20
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Admiral_Chicagodo you want to use your settings from another partition ?08:21
startswithzwhat do you mean?08:21
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Admiral_Chicagoi guess my question is, what do you hope to accomplish my using the home dir of another partition08:22
startswithzwell, in the event that I mess my system up again I would be able to reformat the sda1 partition without having to worry about losing all my files as they would be safely secured in the sda308:23
Tired_having /home on another parition is handy so your users don't eat up all your system space, too08:23
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Admiral_Chicagostartswithz: just save your files on the mounted partion by edition your settings in System Settings08:24
Admiral_Chicagoiirc, its under "about me"08:24
startswithzright but I need to get the system installed...08:24
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Admiral_Chicagooh i see..08:25
Admiral_Chicagoi think08:25
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Tired_startswithz: can you use a partitioning program froma live cd, like GParted, to set up your partitions, and then point everything to the right place when the install is finished?08:27
startswithzok08:28
Tired_not the most elegant way, but it should work08:28
startswithzok, wait I think I might have had a problem.  I had two harddrives set to master08:28
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startswithzcould that be what was messing grub up?08:28
Tired_if they were conflicting in the master/slave, the bios won't see them08:29
Tired_grub wouldn't even start08:29
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Tired_i'm coming in halfway though...whats the problem?08:30
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startswithzhmmm08:31
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startswithzwait what if my old version of grub is on the sda and the new one is on hda08:31
startswithzif I try to boot from sda it will all be fucked right?08:31
Tired_grub shouldn't mess anything up, just from running it (I think)08:32
Tired_installing it can, but running it should be safe08:32
Tired_i'm told an old version of grub should be ablke to load new versions of kubuntu08:32
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startswithzok what is grub loader error 15?08:33
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Tired_let me ask my buddy Google08:33
Small_Machow much disk space does kubuntu itself take, just for reference08:34
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startswithzabout 2 gigs08:35
startswithzI set the partition for 4 so it would have plenty of room08:36
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Tired_Error 15 is a mismatch between the kernel file name you've told grub to look for and the actual file name of the kernel image.08:36
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manuel_Hey hi08:36
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Tired_You need to change the filename to the right one.08:36
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone08:36
startswithzok how do I edit grub?08:37
manuel_Someone nows how can i get a good resolution?08:37
manuel_this is my first time with the kubunto08:37
MilhousePunkRockstartswithz: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst08:37
manuel_kubuntu08:37
MilhousePunkRockmanuel_: Resolution as in desktop/screen resolution?08:37
startswithzmanuel if you have an nvidia card install the drivers and the interface for it08:37
startswithzyou can set the resolution to whatever at that point.08:38
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Tired_startswithz: there's a way to do it from the grub menu, but I don't recall how.08:38
MilhousePunkRockstartswithz: That can be done with KControl too08:38
manuel_Yeap it's an Nvidia... ok i will try it... Thank you08:38
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MilhousePunkRockstartswithz: What are you trying to do with grub?08:38
startswithzmilhousepunkrock its been my experience that the nvidia drivers give more resolution options08:38
MilhousePunkRockstartswithz: Well, could be, don't use Kubuntu on the machine with the GeForce card...08:39
startswithzmanuel_ automatix has an installer for the nvidia stuff along with a lot of other stuff08:39
MilhousePunkRock!automatix08:39
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:39
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MilhousePunkRockSo much about automatix08:39
Tired_automatix didn't work for me, but the tutorial on the Beryl website for ubuntu did08:40
startswithzreally?08:40
startswithzI knew automatix was too good to be true08:40
krautmoin08:40
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Tired_this is why I need to get VMWare working...i could just open up a VM and I could figure out how to edit the grub conf from there, but now I'd have to reboot to do it08:41
startswithza bit off topic but why is it that starburst and skittles commercials seem to be obsessed with outweirding each other?08:41
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Tired_aren't they the same candy company?08:42
Tired_maybe its part of their 'platform experience'08:43
Small_Macstartswithz thx for pointing out the size of kubuntu, srry i was afk for a bit08:43
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startswithzok, so if I were to set up my partitions so that sda1 mounts as / and sda3 mounts as /home would that work? do I need to set a partition to be /boot?08:45
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Tired_to be honest, I don't know much about the kubuntu partitioner in the install.  I'm used to having to set it all up myself08:46
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Tired_and I did use a separate /boot partition08:46
Tired_but that's just me08:46
startswithzok so the boot partition needs to be at the beginning right?08:47
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Tired_I had it there on mine.  I dunno if it needs to be there08:47
Tired_i don't think it needs to, but it will make setting up grub easier08:48
startswithzthe installer calls hda the master drive08:48
startswithzbut I am trying to install to sda08:49
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startswithzhmmm08:49
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startswithzshould i set hda to a slave via the jumpers?08:49
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startswithzcould that be effecting it?08:50
Tired_that shouldn't matter.  id the drive is showing, you don't need to change jumpers08:50
Tired_that's only for the motherboards benefit08:50
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Tired_the OS doesn't care where the jumpers are, as long as the motherboard can see the drive08:51
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Tired_but, I bet that's the problem...grub probably thinks your kernel is on hda08:52
Tired_so you need to tell it to look on sda08:52
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startswithzok08:52
startswithzhow do I do that?08:52
Tired_hang on, I'll see what I can find for ya  :)08:53
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Tired_http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_12.html#SEC3708:54
startswithzI removed the jumper and I am going to just reinstall.  I hadn't spent any time on the system yet08:55
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Tired_if thats what you want, but I gotta say, thats sorta extreme08:56
Tired_and a reinstall may not help you if you're not entirely sure what caused the problem08:57
Tired_you might do it again by accident08:57
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Tired_!grub08:58
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:58
startswithzhd0? what does that mean?08:58
startswithzshould that be sd0?08:58
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Tired_no, that's in grub-ese08:59
intelikeyKernel requires old lsmod, but couldn't run lsmod.modutils: No such file or directory08:59
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Tired_how many drives do you have?09:00
startswithztwo09:00
startswithzone sata09:00
startswithzone parallel09:00
startswithzerr ide09:00
startswithzthe ide has windows on it09:00
Tired_ok, change the hd0 to hd109:00
Tired_leave the comma and after part09:00
startswithzwhy hd1?09:01
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Tired_grub counts your drives...it sees your IDE as drive 0 and your other as drive 109:01
startswithzreally?09:01
Tired_yep09:01
startswithzso ide come before sata?09:01
Tired_i think it starts counting with the drive GRUB is on09:02
startswithzso hd1 will be my sata drive, and hd0 is my ide drive.  I'm sorry but I don't understand the logic.  can you explain?09:03
Tired_grub is installed on /hda.  grub supports all kinds of different drive types, so it has to use its own way of distinguishing.09:04
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Tired_so it counts, starting with the drive it's installed on09:04
intelikeythe count order is according to  the bios order.   0x80 is hd0   0x81 is hd1 ...09:04
startswithzwait but I am about to install from scratch09:05
Tired_counts in format (hdx,y) where x is the drive and y is the partition09:05
intelikeythe count order is according to  the bios order.   0x80 is hd0   0x81 is hd1 ...09:05
Tired_?  I thought we were rescuing an install09:05
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startswithzlike I said I hadn't done anything to it yet so I am just going to reinstall09:05
Tired_thank you, intelikey...i'm far from an expert09:05
Tired_oh, well, then pretty much everything I've told you will be no help, since you intend to blow it away09:06
startswithzsorry09:06
Tired_i thought we were trying to fix it09:06
intelikeythus if you reorder disks in the bios you will trip grub up severly    ^09:06
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startswithzok how do I figure out the disk order in bios?09:07
Tired_you can reorder disks in the bios?09:07
intelikeywhat ever boots is  0x8009:07
intelikeynext one is  0x8109:07
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Tired_oh, i see, changing the boot order09:08
intelikeytired can on most bios'09:08
intelikeyyep.09:08
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jeanhi guys09:08
intelikeythat's the "second" reason i don't like nor use grub09:08
jeanneed to install new dictionaries in OOo09:08
Tired_and the first?09:09
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jeanthe wizard doesn't work09:09
intelikeyit can't boot anything that bios can't read09:09
startswithzok so it calls the hda "1st slave" and the sda "3rd master"09:09
jeani have downloaded some dicos09:09
startswithzin bios09:09
jeanwhere should i copy the files?09:09
intelikeystartswithz then the hda is 0x80  (hd0)09:09
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startswithzok, and if I am installing linux to the sda drive I should assign grub to hd1?09:10
Tired_i'm sorry jean, I don't know OO.o at all...maybe someone else does09:10
Tired_startswithz: are you planning to dual boot?09:10
intelikeyjean  probably /var/lib/something.  but i caution you that playing around in /var  and  /lib     are both dangerous09:10
jeanthx anyway Tired_09:10
startswithzyeah.  I'd like to be able to play WoW09:11
jeanthx as well intelikey09:11
Tired_windows will probably have trouble booting if grub is on a different drive.  i don't think you can have two boot loaders09:11
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Tired_and, yet again, I defer to someone who knows better09:12
Tired_:)09:12
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startswithzok so I should put grub on (hd0) and point the bios at hd0?09:12
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intelikeystartswithz where ever you point bios to boot that's where you will want a boot loader that can boot what ever you want to boot.      i know that's a little vague    but most installers are going to over write it anyway.09:14
Admiral_Chicagoany idea why firefox steals focus from akregator when i open the complete story link in firefox09:15
intelikeystartswithz if you are installing *buntu  then the installer will attempt to install grub file in /boot of the installation and an MBR on disk 0x8009:15
Admiral_Chicagofirefox -remote "openURL(%u,new-tab)" is my option09:15
Tired_is Firefox set to take focus when a new tab is opened?09:15
Admiral_ChicagoTired_: doesn't do it for my other programs..09:15
intelikeyfiles ^09:16
Admiral_ChicagoTired_: ah crap it was my configuration...09:16
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intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago yes.  cause you have it set too...  :)09:17
Tired_;)  We won't tell anyone.09:17
[ifroog] Morning, Human Beings.09:17
Admiral_Chicagobbiab09:17
intelikey[ifroog] 09:18
Tired_ugh!  I thought Linux was supposed to protect me from viruses, but I still got the flu09:18
[ifroog] :)..09:18
[ifroog] Tired_, Well, Its still working on that.09:19
intelikeyTired_ no.  it's not the flu.   that's just a windows hangover.09:19
JucatoTired_: apparently, your body ain't running Linux. time for an upgrade :)09:19
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Tired_I'd hate to think of where I need to put the install CD.09:19
Jucato:D09:19
[ifroog] lol09:19
JucatoTired_: or USB stick :P09:19
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[ifroog] Or the lan wire. :P09:20
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[ifroog] So will kde 4 be realeased with gutsy Gibbon ?09:21
Jucatono09:21
Tired_but, hey, at least a sick day isn't a total loss.  i learned how to network my door bell, so I can answer the door from anywhere in the world09:21
Admiral_Chicagohmmm lag...09:21
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[ifroog] Darn..09:21
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: nope wasn't my configurations.09:21
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intelikeyreally, the next release is a monkey ?09:22
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago still doing it ?09:22
Jucato[ifroog] : KDE 4 is "scheduled" to be released on the same month as Gutsy. so that would definitely be no09:22
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: yea.09:22
[ifroog] lol09:22
Jucatointelikey: yep09:22
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: i'll check it out tomorrow, i need to eat09:22
intelikeyall new meaning to the old "monkey C monkey..."09:22
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago bon apitite'09:23
Jucatomonkey C monkey do...while; ?09:23
Admiral_Chicagois there a program i can run like top to see whats using my bandwidth?09:23
[ifroog] JohanSalim, ok09:23
Admiral_Chicagooh i see the problem..its firefox...09:23
intelikeyJucato not in #kubuntu     it's   "monkey C monkey get confused, ask stupid questions"09:23
Jucatomonkey C monkey goes bye bye...09:24
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intelikeycomputi-us say 'word is four letter word'09:24
Tired_oddly, so is 'four'09:25
intelikeythink M$ word09:25
Tired_but people are eating...09:26
intelikey:)09:26
[ifroog] h09:26
[ifroog] ha09:26
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intelikeyyou know that's a script.09:28
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intelikeyi didn't like the fish thing.  so i wrote my own.09:29
[ifroog] what fish thing ?09:29
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Tired_slapping with a trout, I'd guess09:29
AutoMatriXfish belong in the water ;)09:29
intelikeyyeah09:29
Tired_i thought that was an mirc thing09:30
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AutoMatriXDoes somebody know if (k)ubuntu can be dualboot installed with Mandriva ? if yes, how ?09:31
Tired_is there a 'does not need advanced CS degree to set up' DNS server package in the repos?09:31
[ifroog] Authority, simply tell the mandriva installer where to fing kubuntu..09:31
[ifroog] find*09:31
intelikeyAutoMatriX absolutly09:31
intelikeyany boot loader for linux09:32
AutoMatriXnice intelikey ;) and do you have the time to give me some explanations ?09:32
intelikeyAutoMatriX a second entry in grub   a kernel line in lilo.conf ....   what loader you want ?09:32
AutoMatriXgrub is on it, I think but grub will do ....09:33
[ifroog] Authority, choose grub, and copy the lines on the present kubuntu boot lines in the grub to it.09:33
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AutoMatriXI'll find my way out, thank you so much ;)09:33
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intelikeyAutoMatriX do you want to bounce to another boot loader or do you want to load the kernel from the *buntu /boot  dir ?09:33
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intelikeyand by another  i mean the one mandriva already has   could be same flavor09:34
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AutoMatriXintelikey: I'll check that out, now that I know it is possible, it should not be to hard to find som docs about it ;)09:35
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[ifroog] AutoMatriX, yes, its possible.09:38
[ifroog] argh, miss read ..09:38
AutoMatriXtx folks, googling around will not do me any harm :D09:38
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Tired_youll figure it out easy09:39
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Tired_!grub09:39
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:39
AutoMatriXactually I do like that 'sonar' screensaver from ubuntu09:39
intelikeythe second link there  ^09:39
intelikeymount /dev/hdc2 /media/09:40
intelikeymount: you must specify the filesystem type09:40
intelikeyi can't seem to see any reason that wont mount....   it's ext fs09:40
intelikeyboth ext2/3 are inserted   ide-disk is inserted....  what did i miss ?09:40
intelikeythe device node and mountpoint are ok....09:41
intelikey?09:41
Tired_did you try specifying the fs type?09:41
AutoMatriXthis link could have save me a lot of time, and it will in the future, thanks folks09:41
intelikeywell no...09:41
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intelikeyTired_ do you think it will help ?09:41
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Tired_lol, i dunno09:42
intelikey:)   well it's a missing module  but i don't know which one.09:42
intelikeyfor your benifit    mount /dev/hdc2 -t ext2 /media/09:43
intelikeymount: /dev/hdc2 is not a valid block device09:43
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Tired_i think the cough medicine is starting to make me a bit loopy, so I should go lay down.  thanks for the help and chat  :)09:44
[ifroog] Tired_, Take care.09:44
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intelikeyoh! wait.   are the device nodes the same for 2.6 and 2.4 kernels ?09:47
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intelikeywell i just confirmed that the devicenodes are the same for 2.4 & 2.6   .....  i'm at a loss.09:49
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noiesmo!kompmgr09:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kompmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:54
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noiesmois kompmgr part of kde 3.5.7?09:55
Jucatonoiesmo: yes (again)09:57
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makuseruhow can i exreact a .7z?10:05
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Jucato!info 7zip | makuseru10:06
ubotumakuseru: Package 7zip does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:06
Jucatobah.10:06
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makuseruwhat package do i need?10:07
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makuserunvm Jucato10:07
makuserufound it10:07
Jucatook :)10:07
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makuseruhave you noticed Cosmo___?10:08
makuseruearlier the people (me, coz_ and crdlb) in #beryl were wondering about him, hes been signing on and off repeadly for hours now10:08
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epimethgoood morning people!10:20
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epimeth!ftp10:20
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd10:20
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Bojemoin10:22
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makuseruhwo can i find out my processor speed from a terminal?10:26
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Jucatomakuseru: cat /proc/cpuinfo10:27
makuseruthanks Jucato10:27
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Small_Macwhat program in windows can i use to burn kubuntu onto a blank cd, thx10:33
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trymSmall_Mac: infrarecorder10:36
JucatoSmall_Mac: Nero, or the built in burner (Roxio I think)10:36
trymhttp://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/10:36
trymits open source10:36
trymand free10:36
trymjust as good as nero and roxio10:37
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epimethJucato: kftpgrabber or kasablanca?10:45
Jucatokonqueror :D10:45
Jucatomy FTP needs are not too complicated10:46
epimethI was dolphining, but there is something wrong with it...10:46
epimethI figured it was just a slow ass-connection to the states... turns out its both that *and* the fact that dolphin and konqueror aren't actually built to be ftp clients10:47
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Jucatomost KDE ftp clients would probably just be reusing the ftp:/ or sftp:/ kioslaves... *shrugs*10:49
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helppcwitam10:51
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helppcmam problem nie chodzi mi kubuntu10:52
helppc:)10:52
helppca jestem z kubuntu10:52
icf7Jucato: sftp:// ? Do you mean ftps? And what's wrong with these kioslaves?10:52
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helppcfuck10:53
Jucatoicf7: no. I mean sftp:/ and there's nothing wrong with them10:53
Jucatohelppc: English please10:53
helppcok10:53
helppcyou have a problem10:53
Jucatowhat language is that, btw?10:53
helppcpolish10:54
Jucato!pl10:54
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:54
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jtmoneyhey guys, just installed the openssh-server package. where do i edit which hosts are restricted from connecting? i can ssh in from the localhost, but not another computer on the LAN10:55
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nuuis sshd listening on all interfaces ?10:56
jtmoneynuu: i'd assume so, as i get a login/password prompt but receive "Access denied" when i try to login10:56
nuuusing which user ?10:57
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jtmoneynot root10:57
jtmoneywait, i found something on google10:57
jtmoneyi think i can figure it out10:57
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nuumake sure you don't have any AllowUsers in your sshd config10:59
nuuor it may restrict remote logon10:59
jtmoneyalright, got it working10:59
epimethicf7: nothing is wrong with the slaves, they just aren't the quickest snails in the race10:59
jtmoneywas using the wrong login :-X10:59
nuuaha k ;)10:59
jtmoneyembarrassing haha10:59
nuui've seen worse :)10:59
epimethJucato: I get the feeling that kftpgrabber doesn't use them... it seems to be written from scratch.  its just a gut feeling, I haven't actually checked11:00
jtmoneynuu: heh11:01
jtmoneylater guys11:01
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djdarkman__is there a tool that can draw geometrical bodies from equations?11:16
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puppetmasterhello everyone11:30
puppetmasterI want a download manager that shutdown pc after finished11:31
sercikit is possible to download  a package without installing?11:32
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sercikHi puppetmaster the most famous downloader is nt11:34
serciktry it!11:34
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epimethdjdarkman__: mathematica (wolfram.com) is available for linux, but thats a heavy duty (not to mention expensive) program.  its the only one I know11:34
Jucatosercik: sudo apt-get -d <package> (not sure if it requires sudo)11:34
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sercikHi jucato!11:35
epimethJucato: where do packages download to and are they deleted once they are intsalled?11:35
Jucatohi11:35
sercikbut it wants to remove a pakege11:35
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puppetmasterhow can i find it?11:35
serciki'd like to download without dependincies check11:35
Jucatoepimeth: /var/cache/apt/archives which is regularly cleaned depending on some config. you can manually do it with "sudo apt-get clean"11:36
puppetmasterI can't Empty my garbage bin11:36
epimethJucato: thats just it... it hit me recently that I should probably be saving the debs just in case I need to reinstall my system11:36
Jucatosercik: not sure why it's trying to check dependencies. anyway, you can just head over to packages.ubuntu.com and search for yourself11:36
puppetmasterAnyone help please11:36
epimethJucato: so I *don't* want to clean them11:36
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Jucatoepimeth: apt really saves the .deb's. but the cache is cleaned after a month I think11:37
sercikok jucato! thanks!11:37
epimethall right... lets back them up :-)11:38
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eagles0513875morning everyone11:47
eagles0513875!wma11:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:47
eagles0513875j/w what bit rates does one get with flac11:47
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eagles0513875cuz ive seen with wma losless bitrates between 400kbps and 1 mbps11:48
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eagles0513875anyone able to answer my question11:49
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eagles0513875!w32 codecs11:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:52
eagles0513875!w32extracodecs11:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:52
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eagles0513875!codecs11:53
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RawSewagehow do you get the default Ubuntu wallpaper12:00
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eagles0513875what are some common internet streaming protocols cuz in amarok when i try to play a stream i either dont have the right plug in or its says something bout demux what does that mean12:21
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M_A_Keagles0513875 ; #amarok12:33
kotsoshow intall beryl in kubuntu?12:33
eagles0513875go to #beryl channel12:33
eagles0513875they will help ya there with installation and any other questions u have about it12:34
kotsosok12:34
eagles0513875M_A_K: i know bout amarok but in amarok i am either getting no sutible plugin or no demux plug in what does that stuff mean12:34
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makuseru!fglrx12:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:37
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M_A_KNever heard of demux12:38
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Difilohi!12:45
eagles0513875make12:45
eagles0513875makuseru:12:45
DJServershi all12:45
eagles0513875u trying to enable open gl12:45
DJServerscan you help me i have downloaded phpfusion but what chmod sould i do/12:45
DJServers??12:45
Difilodoes it make any difference if I use the "LIVE-CD" for installing or the "Alternate CD" ?   Some time ago,  someone recommended using the Alternate CD without giving me an idea why not using the Live CD.   If the Live CD boots,  can I use it then?   Or will there be any difference in the installed system then?12:46
makuserueagles0513875: no, i just needed that link12:46
makuseruDifilo: alternate is usually if you dont have enough ram to do a live cd, or if you jsut want term install12:47
Difiloso if I have enough RAM,  I can use the LiveCD as good as the alternate one?12:47
makuseruya12:47
eagles0513875oh ok cuz i have a wiki that will show u how to enable fglrx12:47
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eagles0513875on the newer ati binary drivers12:48
makuserueagles0513875: wasnt for me, my radeon is too old for fglrx12:48
Difilomakuseru, thank you12:48
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DJServersWhat chmod sould i do on phpfusion it cant write the file's now with one ?12:49
eagles0513875lucky u12:49
eagles0513875too me ages to find a wiki or someone who knew how to get it to work12:49
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_4strOeagles0513875: what is your problem ?12:49
eagles0513875i was having trouble getting my open gl to work with a radeon xpress 200m but i was lucky enough to find someone who knew of a wiki on how to get it to work and i just use that12:50
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_4strOok12:50
_4strOeagles0513875: i have a radeon X600 mobility and it just works fine :)12:51
makuseru!chmod12:51
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux12:51
eagles0513875?12:52
eagles0513875_4strO: did u have to make any modifications to the xorg config file12:52
eagles0513875_4strO: this is the link i used to get mine to work12:52
eagles0513875http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide12:52
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phpfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
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_4strOeagles0513875: i change several things on xorg.conf12:58
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eagles0513875did u have to do alot of stuff that i did in the wiki01:00
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_4strOeagles0513875: no01:01
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_4strOi'm using the free driver01:01
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DJServerswhat is the cdmod permission for writing ?01:02
eagles0513875interesting i used the one in the repositories01:02
eagles0513875even if i downloaded the one from ati's site01:02
eagles0513875i still have to hack it like that though01:02
DJServerswhat is the cdmod write permisson ?01:03
_4strOeagles0513875: i'm currently googling01:03
Goliath23DJServers: what do you mean? "chmod -R g+rw directory" gives the all files under <directory> group wrote access01:04
Goliath23so if the file has a guid that you're a member of, then you can write the file01:04
DJServerswell01:04
DJServerslook01:04
Goliath23DJServers: chmod ugo+rw gives read/write access to users, group and others01:05
epimethhow do I quit katapult without killing the process?01:05
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DJServersi have donwloaded phpfusion and when i want to install it it says chmod the phpfusion map for writing01:05
Goliath23epimeth: esc?01:05
epimethquit, not close01:05
Goliath23don't know. removing it from autostart and restarting kde maybe?01:06
epimethlol01:06
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epimethGoliath23... you are *really* missing the point here :-)01:06
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tahsincan anyone name any cool plug-in for amarOk ? ?01:08
DJServersbut what is the chmod for writing like chmod 777 or something?01:08
epimethGoliath23: alt+space (open katapult) then ctrl+c opens a context menu... thanks anyway :-)01:08
Goliath23DJServers: if "phpfusion map" refers to a directory you should probably make that writable for the user that runs apache. or a group that user belongs to. to find out what user is used to run apacha, do "ps aux |grep apache" and check the first column01:09
Goliath23epimeth: ahh! :)01:09
epimethspeaking of apache... why do I have 7 instances running???01:09
DJServers!ps aux |grrp apache01:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps aux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:09
epimethGoliath23: nice little trick, eh?01:09
Goliath23epimeth: thats configurable.01:09
eagles0513875any one ever use boinc on here before01:10
epimethGoliath23: what? ctrl+c or apache?01:10
epimetheagles0513875: I have, but in windows... why?01:10
Goliath23epimeth: apache01:10
epimethGoliath23: where do I configure that and do I want to?01:10
DJServers!chmod 77701:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chmod 777 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
DJServers!chmod01:10
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux01:10
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epimethDJServers: sorry, what is your chmod problem?01:10
epimethDJServers: 777 is world read/write/executable01:11
eagles0513875for some reason on here it wont connect to the local host01:11
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epimethDJServers: except for some rare instances, you do NOT want to do that01:11
epimetheagles0513875: did you put in a username and password for the host?01:11
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Goliath23epimeth: its in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf my default is minimum of 5 spare servers and maximum of 1001:11
eagles0513875its the local host im trying to connect to aka this machine im on atm01:12
epimethGoliath23: is this in case one goes down?01:12
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epimetheagles0513875: you have a boinc server running on your local machine?01:13
eagles0513875not a server01:13
eagles0513875all i want to do is to be able to attach the projects im a part of to it so that i can contribute some processing power if u know what i mean01:13
Goliath23DJServers: chmod 777 is equivalent to chmod ugo+rwx (7 in binary is 111 the the 1's represent the read/write/executable flags. the first number applies to user, second to group and third to others)01:14
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Goliath23epimeth: no, its more to make sure that there is always an idle fork around that can immediately accept a request. like preloading konqueror instances01:14
epimethGoliath23: gotcha... and how do I check if I have prefork or worker MPM installed/running?01:15
tahsinGoliath23: how do i get the menu bar back on my amarok ?01:15
tahsinGoliath23: i checked hide menu bar and now cant bring it back01:16
epimetheagles0513875: so you have to put in the info for that project into the configuration somewhere... you can't connect to localhost if localhost isn't running a server01:16
tahsinGoliath23: nah got it back again :)01:16
Goliath23tahsin: in almost all kde programs you can activate a hidden menubar with ctrl+m maybe that works for amarok, too01:16
Goliath23kk01:16
Goliath23epimeth: check your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf01:17
eagles0513875then in windows y does it work and in linux it does01:17
Goliath23I'd just leave it with the default settings01:17
eagles0513875even before i attach it to a project in windows it automatically connects to the local host01:17
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epimetheagles0513875: hrm... dunno mate.  I don't have it installed here or otherwise I'd help you out more.  check their help online, I remember it was useful enough to set mine up01:19
eagles0513875ok ty anyway im in the boinc irc chat channel seeking help there too01:20
_4strO!ntfs01:20
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epimeth_4strO! what up!01:21
tahsin_4str0: how do i install modebar on amarok ?01:23
_4strOtahsin: dont know what it is01:24
_4strOepimeth: :p01:24
tahsin_4str0: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Moodbar#Screenshots01:25
tahsinmoodbar**01:25
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Small_Machey this is my boot grub menu.lst, can someone tell me what i need to change to boot window by default?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24201/01:28
_4strOSmall_Mac: the order01:30
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Small_Mac_4strO as in just pull the window one up?01:31
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Emesshi, i tried to install feisty on a clean box and had so many errors i had to turn back to edgy, however i still have a problem with acpi and mounting on boot from the live cd, and when teh desktop finally loads it doesnt recognise any harddrives to install to01:33
_4strOSmall_Mac: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24205/01:33
Emesserror codes are "ACPI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x2" and after swap is said to be ok "mount: function not implemented" any ideas?01:34
tahsinCan any one names some cool games for linux ?01:34
Emessneverwinter nights, quake, and that robot game that comes in the gnome games package01:35
Small_Mac_4strO thx so much01:35
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tahsin_4str0: where can i get more visualizations for amaroK ? ?01:38
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binks_work_4strO01:39
binks_workyou mean templates01:40
binks_workthemes01:40
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binks_worktahsin : http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=5501:41
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binks_worktahsin is that what you wanted01:41
eagles0513875epimeth: i fixed the problem01:42
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Emessno ideas?01:46
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epimetheagles0513875: oh yea?  what was the problem?01:59
eagles0513875didnt install the core client lol01:59
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JuJuBeeWhat is the preferred method for upgrading from 6.06 to 7.04?  gksu "update-manager -c" tells me my system is up to date.01:59
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eagles0513875juju open konsole and type this01:59
eagles0513875sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:59
eagles0513875that will upgrade all the pkgs that have updated from edgy to feisty01:59
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RawSewagealso have to change the repos01:59
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nosrednaekimthat automatically changes the repos01:59
eagles0513875that too01:59
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JuJuBeeIsn't there a method that does teh repos as well as the upgrade?01:59
eagles0513875!repos01:59
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:59
RawSewageit does?01:59
RawSewageI dont think it used to01:59
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nosrednaekimRawSewage: I believe it does....how else can it get the packages?01:59
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eagles0513875u have to manually add the feisty repos01:59
RawSewageyou have to change all the edgy to feisty in the repost01:59
eagles0513875i have a useful link give me a min to get01:59
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RawSewagejust replace all edgy with fesity01:59
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eagles0513875http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/01:59
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eagles0513875that site generates the code and all ull have to do after u have upgraded is run that site again and just add the feisty repos and delete the edgy ones01:59
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JuJuBeeI want to make sure I remove any "bad" repos that are not supported so my system gets better :)01:59
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eagles0513875that is a trust worth site cuz u can choose the repos u want01:59
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RawSewagejust open  /etc/X11/xorg.conf with  kdesu kwrite01:59
RawSewageand Replace all Edgy with feisty01:59
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nosrednaekimxorg?01:59
RawSewageoops01:59
RawSewageNO01:59
RawSewagesorry01:59
nosrednaekimlol01:59
RawSewagenot xorg.conf lol01:59
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RawSewagewhere is the sources.list01:59
eagles0513875bbl lunch time01:59
nosrednaekim/etc/apt/sources.list I think01:59
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BluesKajcopy the generated list ...then select all in the existing sources list and delete, then paste the new list in and save , then sudo apt-get update .01:59
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JuJuBeeeagles : that site will generate a sources.list for my current version?  or do I select the new version I wish to use to generate sources?01:59
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eagles0513875select the version u want sources for01:59
eagles0513875meaning edgy01:59
JuJuBeeK01:59
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eagles0513875*feisty lol01:59
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RawSewagekdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list01:59
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RawSewagectrl+r01:59
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RawSewageReplace all edgy with feisty01:59
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JuJuBeeAre backports bad?01:59
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JuJuBeeWhat about the upstream wine?  I use wine.01:59
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RawSewageare you listening01:59
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RawSewagekdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list01:59
RawSewagectrl+r01:59
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RawSewageReplace all edgy with feisty01:59
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RawSewagethen save, close01:59
eagles0513875bbl01:59
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RawSewagedo sudo apt-get update01:59
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RawSewagedo sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:59
eagles0513875then after doing that01:59
eagles0513875ya01:59
eagles0513875bbl01:59
mark_hi everyone, when will the next lts version be released?01:59
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eagles0513875its just been released01:59
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eagles0513875the latest version is feisty01:59
eagles0513875the next one after this wont be for a while01:59
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mark_you mean feisty is an lts release? like dapper?02:00
JuJuBeeRawSewage : I wish to start with a clean sources.list... I am not sure which ones I should remove...02:00
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RawSewageJuJuBee, ok, then use that site02:00
mark_i don't want to upgrade my ubuntu anymore, so i want a release that would last a long time before i upgrade again...02:00
JuJuBeeWhat about backports and the upstream wine?  Bad or not?02:01
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BluesKajyes, mark, feisty is an offical release02:01
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RawSewageI dont know anything about backports or upstream wine02:01
computerwhat's the standard kubuntu wireless tool in edgy, in feisty that same tool seem to have not been included by default, i want to add it back02:01
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mark_oh, ok...02:02
pawitp!alsa02:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:02
BluesKajerr official02:02
pawitpcan I just create asound.conf?02:03
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: thats ok.. we're all used to reading typos ;)02:03
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nosrednaekimpawitp: yeah.. but do you know what to put in it?02:03
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pawitpnosrednaekim: Messing with pulseaudio02:04
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nosrednaekimpawitp: no idea what that is. never have messed with asound.conf either..02:04
pawitpworks anyway :P02:05
nosrednaekimbut hey... just remember what you did!02:05
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BluesKajyea nosrednaekim , but I'm old and i have to be more careful :)02:05
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ah... you have a reputation of sorts?02:06
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BluesKajno just a fact, nosrednaekim...I tend to make mistakes02:08
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nosrednaekimtrue... and if you make a mistake while coding...02:08
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BluesKaj<---not a coder ...no worries there :)02:10
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BluesKajI'm retired and I spend waaaay too much time on this pc ...but today the weather is awful , so i have an excuse to stay inside :)02:12
binks_workBluesKaj the wheater here is great and im stuck inside not fair i say02:13
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yeah... the weather is terrible here too... unfortunately I have school:-P02:13
binks_workopps another typo and im starting to learn c++ thats gonna be fun02:13
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nosrednaekimbinks_work: pssh... you'd never notice a typo in C++.02:14
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jgarciahello02:15
BluesKajbinks, we all have to make a living , fortunately my working for a company days, are done ...working on earnng some extra income from home.02:15
binks_workthats what scares me may go for this instead   http://scratch.mit.edu/about02:15
binks_workgonna get my 7 year old into this02:15
binks_worki have coded vb fo a while so c++ just the next step02:16
BluesKajbinks_work, does scratch run in Wine ?02:17
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BluesKajI'm thinking of the grandchildren...I have 2 , 7yrold grandkids02:18
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Emessmmm i have 2 idea drives in this box, but cant mount either of them from the live cd, on trying to i get a message that there is nothing at /dev/hda :S02:19
nosrednaekimhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/16963 <<--this is pathetic...02:20
binks_workshoot i asumed it was nix as its free i will look at it02:20
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binks_workEmess try /dev/sda02:21
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binks_workBluesKaj http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=30502:22
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binks_workbiab off to lunch02:26
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Emessalreayd tried, didnt work either02:27
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neonlinuxhey all... trying out opera.. and i was wondering if any one knows how to make it cycle tabs like firefox. sort of on close got to next tab?02:37
n8k99neonlinux: you might want to ask in #opera02:38
BluesKaji tried it neonlinux , but my enthusiasm lasted about a day ,til it started to get buggy02:38
neonlinuxi have... i think theyre all soing more important things.. and with so many users in here.. i was kinda hoping someone else might have wanted and figured out the same thing02:39
BluesKajnice embedded irc client tho02:39
nosrednaekimhey..... is there one of those for firefox?02:39
n8k99i used it for five minutes, long enough to see that its far behind konqueror in my list of favorites02:39
neonlinuxBluesKaj: yeah, im liking its speed.. a few things i miss from firefox (extensions mainly).. but im hoping to overcome it enough to give it a fair go02:40
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n8k99nosrednaekim: yes that's the chatzilla extension02:40
nosrednaekimn8k99: oh cool.. I'll have to go get it.02:40
neonlinuxguess ill just keep hitting google02:41
neonlinuxthanks anyway guys :)02:41
BluesKajthe email setup is like old netscape was only less flexible02:41
neonlinuxBluesKaj: havent tried email yet02:41
BluesKajI think Opers has definite positives but it's still got some odd priorities , like assuming you want an icon panel with the email tree02:43
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neonlinuxBluesKaj: and the tab order.. lol... for me.. it just feels odd02:44
n8k99doesnt like how keyshort cuts do not follow global settings02:45
BluesKajyeah, we're all used to FF cuz it's more (I reluctant use this overused word) "intuitive" :)02:46
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neonlinuxhmmm.... just realised i dont have a flashblock extension02:47
n8k99because its tied to the alt+f2 functions02:47
neonlinuxn8k99: havent really tried konqueror for browsing... i love its file explorer though... best ive used02:48
neonlinuxaside from the humble terminal of course lol02:49
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BluesKajI'm beginning to appreciate Konq more and more ...at first i thot it was too half - hearted and behind the times02:49
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neonlinuxBluesKaj: u mean for web or files?02:49
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n8k99neonlinux: i love hitting alt+f2 > typing a web address and letting konqi open up onto that page02:50
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BluesKajkonq never crashes in html or other web apps ...if the plugin isn't installed , it just doesn't work02:50
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sercik_it is possible to mount a folder and not a partition??02:50
neonlinuxhmmm.. me thinks ill have to try konqueror after wacking opera about02:51
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Emessany more ideas about that mounting issue binks_work?02:51
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BluesKajkonq does render some sites better than FF ...ones that only IE can do...which is becoming more rare but still happens occasionally02:52
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Emessexact error is "Unable to open /dev/hda"02:52
nosrednaekimEmess: are you running it as sudo or root?02:53
neonlinuxEmess: if the drive is a harddrive try putting hda1 in02:53
neonlinux(or hda5 if its an extended partition)02:53
Emessyes02:53
Emessno partitions02:54
neonlinuxEmess: are there any partitions on the drive?02:54
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Emessmount: unable to find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mstab02:54
Emessafaik its a single partition02:55
Emessnot 100% sure tho02:55
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ardchoille!uid02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
neonlinuxok... so the drive your trying to mount.. is it on the 1st channel and set as master?02:55
Emessyes02:56
llutzEmess: "sudo fdisk -l" or "cat /proc/partitions" helps02:56
neonlinuxis it sata?02:56
Emessno, ide02:56
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ardchoilleThen it should be /dev/hda02:56
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neonlinuxok... fat32?02:56
Emessyeah, its an ex win98 hdd02:57
Emessyeah theres an hda1,2 and 5 on it02:57
neonlinuxok.. make a new folder in the media directory02:57
neonlinuxsudo mkdir /media/x02:57
neonlinuxthen do02:57
neonlinuxsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/x02:57
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Emessok that actually worked02:59
neonlinuxyou can make more directories and mount the others.. for example...02:59
neonlinuxsudo mkdir /media/y02:59
Emessso i need to format that entire drive into a single partition and then split it for boot, swap and the regular linux partition to isntall02:59
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neonlinuxsudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/y02:59
Emessi need it in a single partition, the whole lol03:00
Emessfdisk?03:00
ardchoilleEmess: With the partition layout that is currently there, it sounds like Ubuntu was installed on it, because Ubuntu does hda1,2 and 5 by default.03:00
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neonlinuxok.. you'll need to unmount the drives u just mounted... and either use the installer to partition the drive, or install qtparted and partition it that way03:01
Emessit had win98 on it, and kubuntu was attempted to install but failed when no drives were munted for it to isntall to03:01
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Emesssee when i use the isntaller it detects no drives at all03:01
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Emessso it cant install03:01
neonlinuxEmess: ok... that one i dont understand03:01
_zjn_hey guy03:01
ardchoilleWell, it sounds like formatting the partitions isn't going to work if the installer can't detect the drives to begin with.03:02
neonlinuxEmess: unmount the partitions and install qtparted... check and partition the drive with that03:02
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Emessdoing that now03:03
obvio171does anyone know of a pure UPnP client for Kubuntu?03:03
neonlinuxEmess: hopefully it could just be a bad partition table issue03:03
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obvio171there's the plugin in ktorrent, but i'd like to redirect arbitrary ports for arbitrary programs03:03
Emesscould be, when i boot the live cd it says mount: function not implemented, as well as an acpi error03:04
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neonlinuxok.. try the install with the boot options noapic and nolapic03:04
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neonlinuxEmess: i thing they're the options. it could be noapci nolapci03:05
Emessok, qtparted found it this time, hda2 is extended and has hda5 in it03:05
neonlinuxEmess: ok.. making sure that that is the correct drive you want to use.. the easiest way is probably to delete the existing partitions and leave it a blank drive03:06
dJFrankiewhen i insert a disc in my drive and it doesn't auto where can i find the dics map?03:06
Emessok, going to try and merge with qt parted03:06
Emessuyeah thats what i thought03:06
neonlinuxlet the installer make the new partitions u need03:06
dJFrankieWhere can i see the map of my cdplayers?03:07
neonlinuxdJFrankie: u mean it doesnt autostart on disc insert?03:07
dJFrankieyeah03:08
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neonlinuxok.. what sort of disc is it?03:08
dJFrankieits an DVD in my dvdplayer03:08
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leohello03:09
neonlinuxin a terminal try sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom03:09
dJFrankieok wait a sec03:09
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neonlinuxif that doesnt work try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom03:10
neonlinuxand if that doesnt dry the device name (might be scd0) so try sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom03:11
neonlinux*try03:11
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acemohow do i make the configure network devices go faster at startup? it takes more as a minute to do this step :/ (maybe disable the configurating of em at startup since knetworkmanager will automaticly configure em correctly)03:11
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dJFrankiethe /dev/scd0 doesnt exsist03:11
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neonlinuxdJFrankie: what is your device usually called when you insert a cd?03:12
dJFrankieehm...03:12
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neonlinuxacemo: that depends on the network setup... are u using dhcp or static03:12
dJFrankiei dont realy now that :p never look at it :P where can i find that /03:13
dJFrankie?03:13
neonlinuxdJFrankie: ok.. when you insert a cd and it tries to auto mount it.. it usually pops up saying automounting /dev/somethingorother03:13
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acemoneonlinux: im using dhcp03:14
dJFrankiesould i try a normal cd and look where its going ?03:14
fengzi??03:14
fengzi?03:14
neonlinuxok.. the reason its taking so long on startup is its its trying to aquire an address and cant find one (or takes a long time to find one)... try using a static and see what happens03:15
neonlinuxdJFrankie: yep.. that could tell you what its device name is03:15
BluesKaj!jp03:15
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 03:15
neonlinuxdJFrankie: i think there is a way to list drives on your system and what theyre called.. but i have no idea of the command03:15
neonlinuxim just a hack really :)03:16
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acemoneonlinux: i cant try static.. the dhcp server from school wont like that...03:19
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dJFrankieneonlinux:  do you now where to and how to mount a  .iso file /03:20
dJFrankiethen i dont need the cd03:20
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dJFrankiewe have a novell server at school03:21
acemoneonlinux: if i have the wireless switch off when booting and turn it on before logging in to kde, it will work alot faster03:21
llutzdJFrankie: sudo mount -o loop /path/to.iso /mnt03:21
neonlinuxdJFrankie: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile.iso /media/cdrom -0 loop03:21
dJFrankiewith sudo ?03:21
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llutzdJFrankie: yes, sudo ...03:22
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neonlinuxacemo: hmmm.. using mine at school.. it gets an address pretty quick... one suggestion might be to disable networking on boot and enable the service once booted03:22
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neonlinuxacemo: are we talking copper or wifi?03:22
acemoneonlinux: wifi03:23
neonlinuxllutz: thanks... i always get some of my commands a bit mixed.. :)03:23
neonlinuxacemo: has the access point got encryption?03:23
neonlinuxthat could hold it up.. cause after getting an address it then authenticates onto the network03:23
acemoneonlinux: the one at school doesnt, but the one at home has03:24
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neonlinuxacemo: does the one at home go faster or slower than at school?03:24
neonlinuxhow close are you to the access point in either situation03:24
dJFrankieit says that from this part: /media/cdrom -0 loop   the option -0 wrong is03:25
acemoneonlinux: no diffrence.. the problem is that when i boot up (with the bar going from left to right) it just waits with configuring the network interfaces a minute and it goes further03:25
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llutzdJFrankie: o(oh) not 0(zero)03:25
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acemoneonlinux: after that, i login and knetworkmanager automaticly finds and connects to the network03:25
neonlinuxacemo: i have to be careful with wireless at the school... ive found 2 things.. our library is a natural faradeh (not sure of the spelling) cage.. it kills wifi signals.. and ive found that if machines are in close proximity the signal degrades alot (and causes our winxp boxes to bsod)03:25
dJFrankieis it o in place of 003:26
dJFrankiethx03:26
neonlinuxdJFrankie: sorry... i got mixed up with another command :(03:26
dJFrankiesudo mount -t iso9660 /home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso /media/cdrom -0 loop  is that good03:27
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neonlinuxacemo: best option might be to disable it on boot and let it be started once you have booted03:27
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llutzdJFrankie: sudo mount -o loop /path/to.iso /media/cdrom003:27
acemoneonlinux: the wireless aint really the problem.. the problem is that when booting it tries to configure the network but i dont want it to do this, since knetwork manager automaticly does it03:27
acemoneonlinux: how would i disable it on boot?03:27
neonlinuxdJFrankie: use llutz's command03:27
dJFrankieso: sudo mount -o loop /home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso /media/cdrom003:27
llutzdJFrankie: spaces are evil:      sudo mount -o loop "/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"  /media/cdrom003:28
neonlinuxacemo: in the system settings in the network config it should have a box thats got an X in it for enable on boot03:28
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dJFrankieok done03:31
acemoneonlinux: changed that.. gave me an error about the default gateway being incorrect, but it seem to changed... let me reboot to see if it worked =)03:31
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neonlinuxacemo: fingers crossed :)03:31
neonlinuxbrb.. coffee calls03:31
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renzaassirathi03:32
renzaassirathow to speed my internet03:32
renzaassiratit is very slow in kubuntu than windows03:33
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oleseahi03:41
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DJServersback03:42
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manwithafaceI have several issues regarding KDE at the moment. Firstly, I tried to log in, and when I entered my correct password, the screen blacked and gave me the kdm log on screen again. I installed gdm to get around this, and when I tried to log in through gdm, it came up "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.03:47
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: either (from my lack of understanding) your kde part is stuffed (worst case) or your user profile has issues.. what did you do before it started doing this?03:48
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manwithafaceAh new error: I just tried loging in again and it came up home directory out of disk space03:48
neonlinuxthat could do it03:48
manwithafaceI just downloaded 700 megs worth of torrenty goodness03:49
DJServers...03:49
DJServerscan you heare me?03:49
DJServers!tes03:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:49
neonlinuxDJServers: ni.. but i can see u type lol03:49
manwithafacei'll try to make some space and see what happens03:50
neonlinuxcool.. mv stuff to other place03:50
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renzaassirathow to speed my internet03:51
renzaassiratit is very slow in kubuntu than windows03:51
neonlinuxrenzaassirat: that can depend on whats running on your machine.. or on your network if you have one03:51
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manwithafacei just ordered a 500 GB hdd, i was hoping I could hold out till it gets here, looks like I wont03:53
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neonlinuxbummer03:53
manwithafaceo well03:53
renzaassirati think my internet is slow03:55
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renzaassirathow to solve this problem03:55
neonlinuxmanwithaface: so have u been able to move stuff to log on?03:55
DJFrankieomg03:55
DJFrankiemy damn internet03:55
DJFrankiewtf is my provider doing ;p03:55
manwithafaceneolinux: working on it03:55
DJFrankieit fals out all the time03:55
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manwithafacei have nearly 9 gigs of useless stuff03:56
neonlinuxrenzaassirat: are u sure it isnt your provider or another machine on ur network.. there shouldnt be any reason for kubuntu to be slower than windows (ive always found it faster) :)03:56
epimethmanwithaface: you could always move some stuff to /var or something03:56
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manwithafacehow do i change the default from gdm back to kdm?03:57
epimethmanwithaface: or the old fasioned *ghasp* burning of stuff03:57
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: sudo nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager03:57
manwithafacethanks03:58
neonlinuxi think you can just change the gdm to kdm03:58
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manwithafaceok, so /usr/sbin/kdm?03:59
neonlinuxyep03:59
Ace2016manwithaface: what are you doing?03:59
neonlinuxmanwithaface: and if you dont want to use kdm or gdm to log into your machine just delete the entire line and save it as an empty file04:00
manwithafacewhat benifit is that?04:00
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manwithafacewouldn04:00
manwithafacewouldn't that just dump me into a command line04:00
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: i prefer logging into the command line, and just typing startx from there04:01
manwithafaceah04:01
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neonlinuxmeans x doesnt run constantly.. so if i screw up drivers or something (or x crashes) its not as big a deal ;)04:01
neonlinuxi have an ati card.. running feisty... until i installed the glx from apt i couldnt use gui at all04:02
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epimethneonlinux: wait, what?  why would it matter where you initially logged onto if x crashes?04:02
manwithafacekdm must live somewhere other than /usr/sbin04:02
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epimethmanwithaface: *cough*/usr/bin/*cough*04:03
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manwithafacenice04:03
neonlinuxepimeth: dunno y it matters... its just that ive found when running x to log me in i have more gui related problesms (one of which, when loging out.. it gives me a black screen and just sits there)04:03
DJFrankieneonlinux: you now how to unmount ?04:04
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manwithafaceDJFrankie: umount04:04
DJFrankieumount04:04
neonlinuxDJFrankie: depends on what your trying to do.. i know a bit.. but im not the best sauce (bbq s much nicer lol)04:04
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DJFrankiewell i have mounted a iso file but how to take it away from /media/cdrom004:05
neonlinuxsudo umount /path/to/iso.iso04:05
neonlinuxi think thats it04:05
manwithafacewhat did you use to mount the iso?04:05
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DJFrankiesudo mount -o loop path/to/isofile.iso04:06
DJFrankieand04:06
DJFrankieon the end04:06
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DJFrankieehm../media/cdrom004:06
renzaassirati cannot install kubuntu04:06
manwithafacethen neolinux's way should work, i have done that before04:06
neonlinuxdont forget the "marks" to avoid the space in filename issues04:06
renzaassiratafter loading  from boot04:07
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neonlinuxrenzaassirat: i thought u had it installed?04:07
manwithafaceneolinux: after booting with space on the dirve, it just gave me a Konsole04:07
DJFrankiebut do i need to umount /media/cdrom0 or to the map where the iso file stands?04:07
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manwithafacewith no Kwin or anything04:07
neonlinuxumount /iso.file04:08
DJFrankiethe path to the iso file where it normaly stands04:08
neonlinuxmanwithaface: try creating a new user... that way u can tell if its part of your profile04:08
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manwithafacei got in using GDM fine, but KDM screwed me04:08
neonlinuxok.. tell me the command u used to mount it04:09
neonlinuxcould be something wrong with kdm.. maybe try re-installing it..04:09
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manwithafacewhat is the command?04:09
neonlinuxmanwithaface: must admit though... the problem is a bit beyond my knowledge.. im just thinking of what it could be04:09
manwithafacethanks anyway04:10
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manwithafaceit doesn't go through the login splash04:10
manwithafacejust dumps me in a terminal04:10
neonlinuxmanwithaface: sorry.. meant i needed the mount command from DJFrankie04:10
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: i think it could be your user profile... or some files in /tmp04:10
neonlinuxthe way to test would be to reboot.. make a new user.. and log in as the new user04:11
neonlinuxif that works its something in your home folder04:11
neonlinuxif that doesnt work it could be kdm needing re-installing04:11
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manwithafacewhat is the apt-get to reinstalll04:12
manwithaface?04:12
neonlinuxit sounds like something has happened to your .kde configuration files04:12
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manwithafacebut i loaded my user through gdm just fine04:12
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manwithafaceits like kdm doesn't set up KDE04:12
manwithafaceit doesn't splash, it just pops up a Konsole04:13
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: ok.. sounds like kdm.... in synaptic you can right click on the app and click re-install... not sure from commandline though04:13
DJFrankiewhats the mount command again? :P i forgot it already :P04:14
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neonlinuxsudo mount -o loop "/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"  /media/cdrom004:14
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neonlinuxso to unmount type sudo umount "/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"04:15
manwithafaceapt-get --reinstall install kdm04:16
manwithafaceif anyone cares04:16
neonlinuxmanwithaface: is that how to do it?04:17
DJFrankiei get an error04:17
DJFrankieit says04:17
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DJFrankieneed a systemfilesort or something dont now how to say in english04:17
manwithafaceyeah04:17
neonlinuxmanwithaface: cool.. learnt something new :)04:17
neonlinuxi didnt know that04:18
manwithafacei didn't know you could either04:18
neonlinuxDJFrankie: file system error?04:18
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DJFrankieyeah04:18
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DJFrankiei thinlk04:18
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neonlinuxtype sudo umount -t iso9660"/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"04:18
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neonlinuxDJFrankie: make sure ur not in the directory04:19
DJFrankiei am not04:19
neonlinuxDJFrankie: rebooting also works :)04:19
DJFrankieo its done now thx04:19
DJFrankiethat version whas bugged like hell :P04:19
DJFrankienow downloading another04:19
neonlinuxDJFrankie: its not a bug... its a feature04:20
marrkhey, my kubuntu uses mesa for opengl support04:20
DJFrankiei now wnat to try this one:P Windows_Vista_Ultimate_x86_OEM.iso04:20
marrkcan i change that?04:20
neonlinuxmanwithaface: did it work?04:20
marrki've got an nvidia geforce fx 560004:20
marrkbut a game doesn't run on it04:20
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neonlinuxmarrk: have you installed the nvidia drivers?04:20
manwithafaceno04:21
marrkand glxinfo crashes04:21
marrkneonlinux: i've installed them thru adept04:21
marrkdidn't download on nvidia.com tho04:21
marrkwould that be better?04:21
tattersHow can I make KDE menu scoll through it's lists rather the expand them?04:21
neonlinuxmarrk: and youve changed your xorg.conf file?04:21
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manwithafaceis there a 'stopx' command?04:21
marrkzomg no :(04:21
neonlinuxmanwithaface: ctrl+alt+backspace04:21
manwithafaceok04:22
neonlinuxmarrk: ok.. make a copy of your current x.org file cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/yourusername/04:22
neonlinuxthen sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for a line that says device "nv"... change nv to nvidia04:23
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neonlinuxsave it and exit04:23
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manwithafacekdm not liking me04:23
neonlinuxand reboot04:23
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: im not sure what else to do... other than create a new user and see if the same thing happens04:23
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manwithafacei can't find this error anywhere on google04:24
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: its either kdm... a config file... or kdm cant write the files it needs to write to /tmp04:24
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: a config file in your user profile04:25
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neonlinuxsorry... thats the best i can do04:25
manwithafacereinstalled kdm04:25
manwithafacehmm04:25
manwithafaceok, i'll just do gdm04:27
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manwithafaceit won't bother me that much, just a little ugly04:27
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neonlinuxmanwithaface: sorry.. wish i could help more... maybe a reboot.. although i imagin youve already tried that04:27
DJFomg damn internet04:27
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neonlinuxok.. i gtg.. need much sleep... work later today04:28
neonlinuxnight all04:28
DJServersback again04:28
DJServersdamn internet04:28
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radioaktivstormI have a question for you all. why do some of the dialog boxes under kubuntu end up being hundreds of pixels wider than the screen, and how does one fix said issue? (1280 x 800)04:31
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jtmoneyi have a radeon 300m... which would be better for quality/battery/life/etc. the "ati" driver or "fglrx" driver?04:33
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SolifugusMy brother claims to have installed the game "glest" through apt-get install, but I don't see it in regular, universe, or multiverse... where else might it be?04:34
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kalorin`!at04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
kalorin`!ati04:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:35
jtmoneykalorin`: thanks04:35
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Daisuke_Ido!info glest04:38
ubotuPackage glest does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:38
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Daisuke_Idohrmm04:38
Daisuke_Idoi think it was there in edgy, perhaps04:38
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jtmoney!search frozen04:39
ubotuFound: frozenbubble2, love04:39
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Dr_willislove?04:42
Dr_willis!info love04:42
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ubotuPackage love does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:42
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horzahi04:45
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ubuntu_hi04:56
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x_linkHi04:59
x_linkIsn't there any Kubuntu that you install right away?04:59
x_linkNo Live CD --> Install04:59
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ubuntu_i had some problems when i tried to install the mp3 support is that an known issue?04:59
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Dr_willisubuntu_,  with the autopmated system? theres been some issues with that i recall.05:01
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Dr_willisinstalling the packages with the package manager should work however.05:01
ubuntu_with the live dvd05:02
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Dr_willisno idea on the live cd. I dont mess with it - other then to install the disrto05:03
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asfaki like everything about *ubuntu except dull black and white bootloader. How do i change that ?05:04
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Dr_willisedit the grubs menu.lst to make it look like ya want05:05
CaBlGuYwe got google earth on the repos??05:05
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CaBlGuY!googleearth05:06
ubotuGoogle Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository05:06
CaBlGuY!Medibuntu05:06
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/05:06
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asfakadd deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free to your repo05:08
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CaBlGuYok, I've installed the new repo..  and I'm still not finding goole earth..  :/05:11
CaBlGuYanyone alive that can help??05:11
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labciao a tutti05:13
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BluesKajCaBlGuY,..hangon I'll find the repos for you05:13
CaBlGuYroger that..05:13
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llutzCaBlGuY: add "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty non-free" to your sources.list05:15
CaBlGuYk gimme a sec..05:15
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CaBlGuYummm  what was the command to open the sources list agian..05:16
CaBlGuYbeen a while since I've messed with it..05:16
llutzsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:16
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epimethgoogle earth is in a medibuntu repo?  cool05:16
tyyyhi all05:16
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epimethhi tyyy05:16
tyyyneed help with kubuntu, my machine is freezing sometimes actually regulary but i dont know why05:17
tyyyhi05:17
sivajityyy do u swap patition05:17
tyyyno i use the entire disk05:18
epimethtyyy: do you *have* a swap partition? :-p05:18
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epimethtyyy: then you should resize the partition and create a swap05:18
tyyyyou think thats why?05:18
tyyyhow do i do that>05:18
tyyy?05:18
epimethhow much ram do you have?05:18
tyyy512mb05:18
Emessmmm when i restarted x the res dropped to 640x480 at 60Hz and i cant change it back, what part of xorg.conf is it to fix that?05:18
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sivajityyy only three commands05:19
CaBlGuYUmmmm  ok.,.  that didn't work..  I need to open it and be able to save it to the file..05:19
CaBlGuYwhat is that nano thing??  never used that b4..?05:19
tyyyok im willing to do it05:19
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tyyyjust how please?05:19
thebosch-NLiemand NL ??05:19
epimethCaBlGuY: sudo runs as root, nano is a text editor05:19
EmessCaBlGuY: its a text editor, like pico05:19
epimethCaBlGuY: but 10^2 times smaller05:20
CaBlGuYHmm  never used that to open my sources list b4..  just had like sudo etc/whatever..05:20
epimethohmygod... I can't believe I just said that05:20
Emesssame here05:20
BluesKajyup llutz has it , CaBlGuY meditbuntu05:20
thebosch-NLiemand die kan helpen met een ATI kaart05:20
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epimethCaBlGuY: sudo just runs as root... you have to specify a program, too :-)05:20
tyyyso can you help me with that swap thingy05:21
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epimeth!de | thebosch-NL05:21
ubotuthebosch-NL: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:21
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CaBlGuYepimeth,  yea..  kinda know what sudo is.. ;)05:21
CaBlGuYjust need to remember how to open gedit so I can save my sources list..05:21
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epimethgedit?05:21
sivajityyy sudo swapon /home/swapfile05:21
epimethblasphemer!05:21
CaBlGuYLOL05:22
rayluif i've built something from source and used make install on it, how would i remove it?05:22
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CaBlGuYwait..   or is it..  fstab..05:22
CaBlGuYlike I said..  been a while..05:22
sivajityyy mkswap /home/swapfile05:22
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epimethCaBlGuY: alt+f2 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list05:22
sivajiecho "/home/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab05:23
epimethCaBlGuY: or in ubuntu, whatever opens the run dialog and then gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:23
CaBlGuYthere.. lemme try that one..05:23
epimethCaBlGuY: fstab are your mountpoints.  "fs" (filesystem) "tab" (tab delimited file... like inittab :-))05:23
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CaBlGuYok that last one worked...  the gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  :)05:24
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epimethnot that I *really* have anything agaist you being here... but why are you here if you are using ubuntu?05:24
sivajityyy last command show me what u output u get for this "swapon -s"05:24
raylulivecd?05:24
BluesKajok ,yer on gnome, CaBlGuY kdesu kate is for KDE05:24
rayluif i've built something from source and used make install on it, how would i remove it?05:25
epimethBluesKaj: I told him that already :-p05:25
sivajityyy are u there ?05:25
epimethraylu: rm :-)05:25
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BluesKajok epimeth :)05:25
raylurm what? the files it installed?05:25
Jucatoraylu: "make uninstall"05:25
raylunever defined in the makefil05:25
CaBlGuYalllrighty..   now lets try the apt-get install googleearth./..  :p05:25
epimethBluesKaj: you just don't trust me!05:25
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Jucatoraylu: in the same directory where you ran "make install"05:26
BluesKajhehe05:26
rayluthough it is comprehensive and has make packages for a billion systems05:26
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epimethCaBlGuY: sudo apt-get update05:26
raylumake uninstall doesn't work05:26
CaBlGuYummm  yea..  forgot that part..  :p05:26
Jucatoraylu: you can only run "make uninstall" in the same directory where you ran "make install". that is, in the directory where the Makefile is05:26
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epimethCaBlGuY: and don't forget, its sudo apt-get install Googleearth05:27
raylumake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.05:27
BluesKajgoogle earth is also available on the google site if you want to compile it05:27
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llutz^^ if uninstall is defined05:27
yutdrhi all05:27
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llutzraylu: that's why you never should use "make install" :)05:27
rayluT.T05:27
raylubut it was a lib that another program needed05:27
rayluhow else would it be recognized05:27
yutdris there a log file in kubuntu which has information about the last system crash(freeze)05:27
CaBlGuYroger that epimeth   ;)05:27
llutzraylu: use at least checkinstall to build a .deb05:28
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CaBlGuYok, I keep getting broken packeges error..05:28
CaBlGuYUmmmm  this one..  -->  2.4-1ubuntu12.3    whatever that is05:28
yutdris there a log file in kubuntu which has information about the last system crash(freeze)05:29
raylum. that doesn't sound important :P05:29
epimethsudo apt-get autoclean maybe?05:29
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rayluwhat are you trying to do to that package?05:29
rayluautoclean for who?05:29
CaBlGuYnope..05:29
epimethCaBlGuY, but that was before I saw what package it is05:29
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CaBlGuYok wait..05:29
epimethCaBlGuY: try reinstalling it maybe?05:30
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CaBlGuYwoould be sudo apt-get install libc6    yes?05:30
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yutdrhallo?05:30
epimethCaBlGuY: that sounds like a good place for libc6 to hide in... google the package tho05:30
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BluesKajaha dependencies , CaBlGuY05:31
rayluwhat's CaBlGuY doing to the package?05:31
GoaxerHi, i cant boot kubuntu 7.04 on my hp dv6129 laptop, im new on linux, who can help?05:31
epimethraylu: he's getting a broken packages error05:31
raylu...05:31
BluesKajare you using adept or apt , CaBlGuY?05:31
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raylubut...what is he doing...to...the...package...05:31
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CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  command line05:31
raylubroken package errors don't just popup in the terminal05:31
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, did you add the repos to your sources list?05:32
CaBlGuYyes'm...05:32
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rayluwhy would repos matter if he has a broken package...05:32
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BluesKajok do yo have synaptic installed05:32
Pupeno_How do I find the version of a kubuntu only having the file system (not running it)?05:32
GoaxerI tried tu use acpi=off but it didnt help05:32
BluesKaj?05:32
CaBlGuYyes BluesKaj ..05:32
CaBlGuYtry it then??05:32
rayluGoaxer, error message?05:32
BluesKajuse synaptic05:32
CaBlGuYok..  gimme a sec..05:33
Goaxeryes05:33
raylugoa05:33
rayluGoaxer, what is the error message =\05:33
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JucatoPupeno_: cat /etc/issue05:33
llutzPupeno_: mount it, check /mnt/etc/lsb_release05:33
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Goaxersomething about hardware, i dont know05:33
Jucatollutz: you mean lsb-release, right05:33
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llutzJucato: i meant, sry05:34
llutzPupeno_: mount it, check /mnt/etc/lsb-release05:34
Goaxerin past acpi=helped05:34
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Goaxerbut now i need to use linux, and acpi=off didn't help :/05:34
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Pupeno_thanks.05:35
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CaBlGuYsays libc6 has unresolved dependencies...05:35
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Goaxerwrites can't load kernel image or something like this05:35
llutzJucato: lsb_release (app) reads lsb-release(file).... stupid :(05:35
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CaBlGuYthis was in the error box...   "googleearth:05:36
CaBlGuY  Depends: libc6 (>=2.5-0ubuntu1) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed"05:36
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BluesKajcabok in the terminal  'sudo aptitude install googleearth'05:36
CaBlGuYthen it won't let me install google earth05:36
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, in the terminal  'sudo aptitude install googleearth'05:37
GoaxerHelp somebody, tomorrow test for me about linux in college05:37
CaBlGuYk..  gimme a sec...05:37
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Goaxerwrites can't load kernel image or something like this05:37
BluesKajok05:38
Goaxerwhats wrong?05:38
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CaBlGuYok BluesKaj  now what???05:39
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Emess_ok, X has completely died, is there a way to get the file off the installation cd to fix the config? teh box has no internet connection yet05:40
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Goaxeroh shit i forgot to type "live" before acpi=off :D05:40
ScuniziI occationally run the KDE desktop on my ubuntu gnome install.  I like kontact and I've set organizer up to use Evo's calendar data.  But korganizer screws up all the item of appointments. Is there a solution to this?05:40
PhinnFortScunizi: don't use Evolution?05:40
Scunizi*times of appointments.05:41
PhinnFortScunizi: or ask in #kde05:41
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CaBlGuYEmess,   you could try a fresh "re-install"...05:41
Jucatoactually, #kontact for KDE-PIM stuf05:41
tyyyshit froze again05:41
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tyyyis there any log file available?05:41
ScuniziPhinnFort,  gee thanks.. I thought someone here in ubuntu land might be able to help with a kubuntu / ubuntu issue.. Not so?05:41
tyyywhere i can track down the couse of my system crash?05:42
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pingvenoI'm having trouble getting aiff files to work in Amarok. It says that there is "No suitable dmux plugin." I dug through its dependencies and found that ffmpeg outputs "Error while parsing header" on aiff files.05:42
ScuniziThanks Jucato..05:42
CaBlGuYScunizi,   you could just un-install the KDE but leave or re-install Kontact once you get back into Gnome..05:42
pingvenoany ideas on where the problem is?05:42
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, did it install ?05:43
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  I think  it did but, it's not on my menu...05:43
tyyyis there any kernel related irc channel more like for troubleshooting?05:43
_Budtyyy,Have you replaced CR2032 battery on motherboard?05:44
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tyyy?05:44
tyyyi dont have any05:44
tyyyat least i think so05:44
BluesKajrelogin CaBlGuY05:44
tyyyim having a vgn-u70p handheld device from sony05:44
CaBlGuYclose my session and come back on?05:44
Jucatotyyy: #ubuntu-kernel05:44
_Budwhat kind of machine do you have?05:44
CaBlGuYBluesKaj, ?05:45
CaBlGuYclose my session and come back on?05:45
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tyyythx05:45
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CaBlGuYok, I'm taken that's what ya meant so, brb05:47
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tyyyanybody alse an idea what is cousing my crash?05:47
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Contrast83Greets, everyone... Does anyone know how to get rid of EVERYTHING associated with a program when you uninstall it in the package manager? I've already "completely removed" them, and I'm still finding .desktop files, configuration files and folders, etc., scattered throughout my system.05:50
CaBlGuYK, BluesKaj    still not on my menu...  feel like I'm missin somethin..   :/05:50
tyyyok please help i want to try and see if it is the swap partition like somebody mentioned before, and would like to create a swap partition please help05:50
marko_hey05:51
BluesKajCaBlGuY, googleearth in the terminal05:51
CaBlGuYK..05:51
marko_i wanna know what this command do cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MH05:51
marko_:D05:51
marko_does anyone know ?05:51
tyyyit will delete your cpu physically05:51
llutzlol05:52
dasnipait looks in the cpuinfo file and searches it for 'MH'05:52
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  command not found..05:52
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CaBlGuYmarko_,  I bet u can tell us.. :p05:52
dasnipamarko_: it looks in the cpuinfo file and searches it for 'MH'05:53
llutzmarko_: reads tact-frequency  in MHz from cpuinfo05:53
marko_i don't know so I'm asking cause a friend told me i should do it but he is so... a little evil05:53
marko_so i can't trust him05:53
marko_properly:DD05:53
CaBlGuYLOL05:53
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dasnipamarko_: it wont do anything bad05:53
marko_ok:D05:53
CaBlGuYmarko_,  run it..  it's fine05:53
dasnipamarko_: besides to screw up that file it would have to be run as sudo05:54
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tyyyoh yes it will, it will delete your cpu physically05:54
marko_tyyy, stfu dude05:54
marko_thanks guys:D05:54
dasnipasomething like sudo echo ' ' > /proc/cpuinfo05:54
marko_I'm going now c'ya:)05:54
CaBlGuYLMAO  @ tyyy05:54
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CaBlGuY:-|05:54
CaBlGuYdam kidz..05:55
dasnipaindeed05:55
tyyymarko dont take it so serious be bit more frankly05:55
BluesKajCaBlGuY, search for it in konqueror05:55
CaBlGuYK..  BluesKaj  gimma  SEC..05:55
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tyyyok now somebody help me with sudo rm -r /05:56
tyyylol05:56
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tyyyok back to serious05:56
tyyyok please help i want to try and see if it is the swap partition like somebody mentioned before, and would like to create a swap partition please help05:57
CaBlGuYK BluesKaj   not there..05:57
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D_Centhi05:58
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, the only thing left is to go to the google site and download the tar file05:58
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D_Centi have a problem with my sidewinder force feedback pro joystick. i cannot configure it. /dev/input/js0 or /dev/js0 doesn't exist and if i create it, i get this message: "no such device"05:59
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monfisjak sie nazywa polski czat05:59
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  ok but, why didn't it put it on my menu when I installed it??05:59
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D_Centi've tried out so much tutorials, but nothing helped06:00
CaBlGuYand is it something to do with that libc6 file?06:00
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BluesKajit didn't install , otherwise konqueror would have found it06:00
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buzinstead of sda4???06:00
BluesKajCaBlGuY, it didn't install , otherwise konqueror would have found it06:01
CaBlGuYok..  so, I should try to re-install that libc6 file then..  yes??06:01
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D_Centi've loaded the following kernel-modules: sidewinder, joydev, joydump, analog, gameport, emu10k1-gp, evdev and iforce06:01
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, gimme a min06:02
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  K..06:02
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asfak_can i have my image on bootloader ? any helpful links ?06:05
tyyycan somebody help with swap?06:05
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CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  I'm re-installing that file..  see what happens..06:06
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BluesKajok CaBlGuY , good06:06
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llutztyyy: do you have free space on hdd?06:07
tyyyis there any other irc channel where i can get help with system troubleshooting and kernel crash system crash etc...?06:07
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khadijaplease is there any way to install samba without connection06:07
khadija?06:07
tyyyah lutz thx, yes i think so06:07
llutztyyy: if so, just create a new partition, set the type to swap06:07
Emess_awesome, xi is fixed now06:07
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tyyywith what can i do that?06:08
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llutztyyy: sudo cfdisk /dev/your.disk06:08
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Emessiv got a windows box that connects to teh internet with wifi, and i want kubuntu to use that wifi connection over a cat5 cable, any way to do that without samba?06:08
BluesKajok CaBlGuY , http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html ...dl the .bin file06:08
llutztyyy: but why a partition? swap-files work fine06:08
Emesskinda need the internet on it06:09
tyyysomebody told me06:09
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tyyythat that could e the couse for my crash06:09
khadija please is there any way to install samba without connection like download a package06:09
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CaBlGuYGrrrrr  this is gettin under my skin now...06:09
llutztyyy: swap-partition has advantages only if you use more than one linux-installation on your pc so they can share it06:09
tyyybut actually im doubting to06:09
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llutztyyy: swap causes crashs? i doubt too06:10
tyyyi dont have more then kubunto on my thingy06:10
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  what do I do with the .bin file once I get it?06:10
tyyykubuntu06:10
tyyyis there any log i can check?06:10
llutztyyy: /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages06:10
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tyyyi checked that but it seems like hrmm06:11
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tyyyprolly i just dont get it06:11
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khadijaplease is there any way to install samba without connection06:11
tyyyif i paste it somewhere06:11
epimethkhadija: without connection to internet?06:11
tyyycould you see if there is something bothereing or cousing it?06:11
llutztyyy: i doubt that too, sry :)06:12
BluesKajCaBlGuY, right click on it , make executable if necessary... then cd to the file in the terminal and type ./  in front of the file name ...i'tll bring up an install wizard06:12
tyyyits just freezing sometimes after a while06:12
tyyyand i dont know why06:12
tyyyi cant do anything else then reset06:12
llutztyyy: thermal trouble?06:12
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epimeth_4strO: Success?06:13
tyyyif it was then i couldnt restart again and let the machine run for about the same time again or longer as much as i understand theremal problems06:13
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  change the .bin to .exe? or no?06:13
llutztyyy: bad memory (RAM)06:13
tyyyi checked the ram 3 times06:13
epimethCaBlGuY: .exe is a windows executable, .bin is (usually) a linux one06:14
llutztyyy: memtest for longer 48h06:14
tyyywell thats what i did06:14
ben_how many sticks do you hav?06:14
_4strOepimeth: success for what ?06:14
CaBlGuYthanks epimeth  for clearin that up..   *eye roll*06:14
tyyybut it passed06:14
CaBlGuY:p06:14
llutztyyy: hmmm, no idea then.06:14
tyyyhrmm sledge hammer?06:14
tyyylol06:14
ben_tyy: how many sticks do you have?06:14
llutztyyy: ati or nvidia-drivers?06:14
tyyyintel06:14
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llutztyyy: should work fine too06:15
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epimeth_4strO: <a href="/forex-trade.html">06:15
epimethack?!?06:15
ben_tyyy: how many sticks of ram do you have?06:15
tyyyjust one06:15
ben_oh06:15
ben_b/c i06:15
epimeth_4strO: why isn't the "copy" working????06:15
ben_b/c i've tested 2 sticks of ram dual channel together and got no erros and then done them individually and found errors06:16
epimeth_4strO: chanserv said "_4str06:16
epimeth_4strO: O has left the server. (Success).06:16
ben_i'm trying to compile madwifi from the source code but i get errors06:16
ben_http://nopaste.ch/a15376450597c65.html06:16
_4strOi dont know what you're talking about06:16
_4strOit was just a ghost connection :p06:17
CaBlGuYBluesKaj, should the command be sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin  ???06:17
epimethCaBlGuY: in that case... change that to "no. under no circumstances should you change it to .exe" :-p06:17
CaBlGuYhehe06:17
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, yes06:18
CaBlGuYso it would be sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin    if so, it's saying command not found.,..06:18
BluesKajdon't change it to exe ...just make sure it's executable in properties06:18
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tyyycan the couse adept be?06:19
BluesKajok CaBlGuY, you have to install build-essential06:19
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epimethCaBlGuY: oohhh... lol... misunderstood your question... yea, you have to chmod a+x GoogleEarthLinux.bin in order to make it executable06:20
CaBlGuY*sigh*...  okey dokey...  gimme a sec.  :p06:20
CaBlGuYepimeth,  b THERE   that's what I was lookin for..06:20
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CaBlGuYUmmmm ok.,.,   that didn't work..  :/06:23
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CaBlGuYdam..  I it wasn't this hard to install on my desktop...06:24
marrkdma_timer_expiry dma status == 0x61 rings a bell with someone?06:24
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, have you installed build-essential ?06:24
CaBlGuYUmmm   no sir..  :p06:25
CaBlGuYgimme a sec..06:25
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arkygeekhi all06:25
marrki have huge boot times06:25
marrkand i get the same error a lot of times in my logs06:25
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marrk06/05/2007 06:14:25 PMmarrk-desktopkernel[   24.826407]   hda:<4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x6106:26
arkygeeki am running sidux, a debian sid based distro - can i change my repos and switch it to ubuntu?06:26
arkygeekwith a d-u i mean?06:26
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jean-benoit!fr06:26
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:26
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CaBlGuYhehe06:27
CaBlGuYok..06:27
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DJFrankiehey when i try to install windows server 2003 sp2 on my server it says: you will need to return to setup in order to install windows choosing dynamic update during setupid will possibly remedy this error what to do now?06:28
llutzDJFrankie: join win-channel and aks there06:29
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llutzaks06:29
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DJFrankiewin channel06:29
DJFrankieis that from ubuntu too?06:29
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DJFrankie!win06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
DJFrankie!windows06:30
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:30
CaBlGuYLOL06:30
CaBlGuYDJFrankie,  here...06:30
llutzDJFrankie: win = windows = microsoft = wrong place here to ask06:30
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CaBlGuY#windows06:30
CaBlGuYjin that06:30
CaBlGuY*join06:30
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epimeth!equivalents06:30
DJFrankieo i am there06:30
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant06:30
DJFrankiethx06:30
CaBlGuYword06:30
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BluesKajCaBlGuY, try the bin file now06:31
CaBlGuYBluesKaj,  roger that...   doin the chmod right?06:31
BluesKajnever use it06:32
msemtd_um, quick question: is it safe to remove the lvm2 package on feisty?06:32
tyyywell ok something different, did anybody try japanese input system with openoffice?06:32
tyyyor yet better any body got it running?06:33
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CaBlGuYso far so good BluesKaj    ;)06:35
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epimethCaBlGuY: what about meeeee! BluesKaj *always* gets the thanks!06:38
epimethnot my fault I'm at work and only catch half the problems06:38
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CaBlGuYheeh...   ok ok..  thanks epimeth  for umm  helpin out..06:38
CaBlGuYthere.. :D06:38
BluesKajepimeth, wait...it ain't over yet :)06:38
CaBlGuYyea..  see..06:38
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epimethyay!06:39
CaBlGuYok, it's running but I think I may need to update my openGL or DL an olpenGL driver..06:39
epimethCaBlGuY: that I can't help you with :-p06:40
CaBlGuYsee..   I bet BluesKaj  can..  so :p06:40
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BluesKajwhat graphics card CaBlGuY?06:44
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CaBlGuYBluesKaj, ummm  lemme take a look..   I'm usin a laptop by the way..   Toshiba somethin or another..06:46
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CaBlGuYok, whats the command to see what Vid card ya got??06:48
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nixternallspci |grep VGA06:49
nixternalthat will give you exactly what you are looking for06:50
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khadijahi all06:52
CaBlGuYok BluesKaj    I got a Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP....06:52
khadija please is there any way to install samba without connection06:52
khadija"sudo apt-get install samba"06:53
khadijathis command oblige the user to connect to the internet06:53
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c1|freakyis there thunderbird 2.0 for kubuntu?06:54
JuJuBeeTrying to upgrade from dapper to feisty... Cant get past metacity error... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/metacity-common_1%3a2.18.2-0ubuntu1.1_all.deb (--unpack):06:54
JuJuBeeWhat to do?06:55
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khadijasomebody is there????06:56
khadijai have a archive but i coudn't install it?06:56
llutzkhadija: sudo dpkg -i archive.deb06:56
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CaBlGuYyea, that's the only way I would know to install khadija06:56
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llutzkhadija: but it will fail if you don't have all dependend packages too06:57
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JuJuBeeAny suggestions for my error on metacity?06:58
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llutzJuJuBee: download again06:59
JuJuBeeShoudl I remove it from the archives and do the dist-upgrade again?07:00
llutzJuJuBee: try just do reinstall this package07:00
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JuJuBeellutz : error... E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).07:01
JuJuBeeI tried teh apt-get -f install and it failed as well...07:02
llutzJuJuBee: broken package maybe?07:02
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JuJuBeeI guess.  What do I do about it?07:02
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JuJuBeeshould I apt-get remove metacity and try to continue?07:03
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khadijaI test the command but the system gives me thismessage07:03
khadijaDes erreurs ont t rencontres pendant l'excution:07:04
khadija samb07:04
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khadijahow resolve it07:04
khadijahow can i resolve it07:04
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khadijaplzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz07:08
khadijai need help07:08
khadijahow can i install samba07:08
khadijai want to share folder in windows07:08
CaBlGuYso, BluesKaj  any help on updating the drivers??07:09
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trprkhadija: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs07:11
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trprkhadija: then you can mount your windows shares with the smbmount command.. ie sudo smbmount //somecomputer/someshare /some/local/directory07:12
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ubuntu_hello07:12
BluesKajCaBlGuY, try the google-linux search for the drivers http://www.google.com/linux07:12
ubuntu_how do i enable r/w on ntfs drives ?07:12
BluesKajbbl07:13
JuJuBeeCan someone give me a hand with dist-upgrade... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24270/  metacity problem... dapper -> feisty07:14
sercikubuntu_ you need to install ntfs-config07:14
jujimufuI have downloaded gnome-bluetooth, bluez, gammu and wammu, and I have set up gammurc to have a pin, namely 5432. But when I run wammu and it detects my phone, on my phone I am asked whether I want a connection with the computer. I say yes, and it asks for a password. I put the password I have pre-arranged, but it says "connection failed". Any ideas?07:14
sercikand then you can use it to enable rw07:14
ubuntu_oh, ok07:14
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ubuntu_know anything about persistant livecd ?07:14
khadija <trpr>  the problem is that the second computer dosn't have connection07:16
khadijato net07:16
khadijai download it a package07:16
khadijahow can i install it?07:16
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trprkhadija: second computer is the linux computer? if you dled a .deb you can install it w/ dpkg -i <file>07:16
trprbut i'm not entirely clear on what the problem is07:17
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marrkhmmm07:17
khadijayeah in the second i have kubuntu also07:17
marrkcan anyone help with : hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x6107:18
llutzkhadija: samba installed on the second pc?07:18
khadijano isn't installed07:18
khadijai want to configure it07:18
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hyper__chany economist here?07:19
ubuntu_what are the main differences between ubuntu 6.04 and fawn ? (any reason why not to use the earlier version ?07:19
llutzkhadija: try "sudo aptitude download samba" on your pc with internet. after aptitude is finished, copy the downloaded files to the second pc and install them with dpkg -i07:19
Emesshey, iv got a windows box with wifi and i need to share that connection with kubuntu over lan, anyway to do that? kubuntu currently has no internet connection07:19
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marrkI have long boottimes with this error message: hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x6107:21
marrkanyone knows something about it?07:21
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ubuntu_know anything about persistant livecd ?07:23
ubuntu_what are the main differences between ubuntu 6.04 and fawn ? (any reason why not to use the earlier version ?07:23
ubuntu_?07:23
ubuntu_am i lagging ?07:23
khadija[17:18]  <llutz> khadija: samba installed on the second pc?07:23
khadija[17:18]  <khadija> no isn't installed07:23
khadija[17:18]  <khadija> i want to configure it07:23
khadija[17:19]  <khadija> but i don't have connection07:23
khadija[17:20]  <khadija> dpkg -i <file>.deb but dos'nt work07:23
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trprubuntu_: i think one is the long term support release (6.06 or something). and no, i don't think there is any reason not to use the earlier version07:24
llutzkhadija: how do you want to configure it, if it isn't installed?07:24
Emessubuntu_: use dapper if you want, feisty is just newer and prettier07:24
trpri am confused how you plan on using it w/out network between the two pcs? maybe i am confused and its just internet the second pc is missing, not network07:24
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khadijahow can I install it07:27
trprubuntu_: *repeats* i think one is the long term support release (6.06 or something). and no, i don't think there is any reason not to use the earlier version07:27
darrylAny of your guys got  PPTP working with Kubuntu?07:27
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SilentDishello :)07:27
SilentDis!mp307:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:27
khadija<trpr> so how can i install it?07:27
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trprkhadija: get the samba package and the smbfs package and any other dependencies they need. transfer them to the pc without internet somehow and install them with 'sudo dpkg <filename> ...07:28
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JuJuBeeCan someone please help me?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24270/  I can't get past this error in dist-upgrade.07:29
ubuntu_?07:29
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Dr_willisHmmm07:29
trprkhadija: if the second pc had interent this wouldn't be such a pain. you could just apt-get the packages and be ready to go07:29
trprspeaking of which, they are probably on the cd07:30
SilentDisaargh, stupid question, i'd like to have Konversation pass URL clicks to my already open instance of Konqueror, rather than open a new one.  where is the setting?07:30
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khadijaok i get and i will transfert it with usb07:31
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khadijai will dwonload the deb package07:32
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jujimufuI have downloaded gnome-bluetooth, bluez, gammu and wammu, and I have set up gammurc to have a pin, namely 5432. But when I run wammu and it detects my phone, on my phone I am asked whether I want a connection with the computer. I say yes, and it asks for a password. I put the password I have pre-arranged, but it says "connection failed". Any ideas?07:32
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SilentDisjujimufu: I don't have much experience with wammu, might be best to check out that project's official help channels...07:33
SilentDis!wammu | jujimufu07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wammu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
darrylAny of your guys got  PPTP working with Kubuntu? I almost have it working, but I get the "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP" - anyone here know how to work around that?07:34
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jujimufuSilentDis: I don't see any channels... bah...07:35
SilentDisjujimufu: phone db for wammu: http://cihar.com/gammu/phonedb -- wiki http://www.gammu.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gammu:Wammu07:35
jujimufu!gammu07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gammu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
jujimufuSilentDis: thanks07:35
SilentDisjujimufu: nt.  sorry i couldn't be more help07:36
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eeoshow do you update kdevelop to 3.4.1? I cannot find the repository!07:38
jujimufuSilentDis: no worries.07:38
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darrylAny of your guys got  PPTP working with Ubuntu? I almost have it working, but I get the "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP" - anyone here know how to work around that?07:38
eeosthey do not appear to be anywhere on the website.07:39
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ks_halo07:39
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nosrednaekim'lo07:40
der_messiashi07:40
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SilentDiseeos: looks like current for kdevelop for Kubuntu 7.04 is 3.4.0 branch.  are you looking for gutsy dev stuff by chance? (#ubuntu+1)07:41
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eeosSilentDis: nope, they released 3.4.1 few days ago with kubuntu 704 packages, but cannot find their repository anymore07:41
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SilentDiseeos: http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3.4/download.html - the download page for the kdevelop project might help07:43
SilentDiseeos: yep, looks like they have repos listed there07:43
eeosSilentDis: it is an outright mess there07:44
eeosSilentDis: looking at it trying to make sense of the field07:44
serciksomeone can help me to pair a bluetooth device?07:44
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jujimufusercik: what phone do you have and what applications are you using?07:45
SilentDiseeos: in the Binaries section of that page, just under the first table, is where it lists the repos07:45
eeosSilentDis: it looks they have releaed the binaries for 61007:45
serciki have a k700i ericsson07:45
eeosSilentDis: but not for 70407:45
sercikand for now i haven't installed applications07:45
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eeosSilentDis: and they are in the kde 356 repository07:45
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serciki have bluettoth icon on systray07:45
eeosSilentDis: instead of 35707:45
eeosSilentDis: :(07:45
SilentDiseeos: sounds like rather than using the tool, it might be better to offer some of your time to help clean up their website.  LOL07:46
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eeosSilentDis: well, you cannot get involved i all open source project on the planet, can you?07:47
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SilentDiseeos: no, you surely can't lol07:47
HaffeHmmm.07:47
eeosSilentDis: so I have to content myself with all I am doing :P07:47
jordo23Is it possible to run Konversation minimized at startup?07:48
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HaffeI have a programing question. I have read 'Structure and interpretation of Computer Programs 3/e' what would be the next book to read in progresion?07:48
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SilentDisjordo23: having it startup isn't too hard, add a symlink to /usr/bin/konversation in ~/.kde/Autostart.  as for getting it to start in the tray and only in the tray, i'm not so sure...07:51
eeoshave a nice evening everybody!07:51
epimethHaffe: depending on the language, a Bruce Eckel book07:51
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nosrednaekimSilentDis: I think thats a command line option07:51
epimethHaffe: www.mindview.net07:51
jordo23SilentDis: Yeah....that's what I am shooting for.....why is this never added to Konversation or an option in the config?  It is with most other KDE GUI programs...07:51
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SilentDisjordo23: how about starting it, closing it's main window, then saving session in KDE?07:52
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epimethSilentDis: thats what we call a "workaround"07:53
jordo23SilentDis: Doesn't work.....when logon happens it maximizes...07:53
epimethohhh... keeping it closed... gotcha07:53
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jordo23ya07:53
SilentDisepimeth: agreed on that comment :P07:53
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SilentDisjordo23: darnit!  lol07:53
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epimethSilentDis: I'm good with workarounds... seems like half of what Ido is a workaround... god I hate it when "time is of the essence"07:54
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Michhi07:54
SilentDisMich: not yet...  *snicker*07:55
SilentDisMich: oh, the greeting, not my current state.  sorry.  hi!07:55
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epimethwow... http://bash.org/?7314807:58
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SilentDiseh?08:00
eagles0513875what will allow me to decode wma files08:01
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epimeth!wma | eagles051387508:02
ubotueagles0513875: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:02
BluesKajepimeth, what's with the contradictory psychobabble :)08:02
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epimethBluesKaj: I'm a stoner myself :-p08:02
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maarchhi08:02
epimethBluesKaj: but don't tell anyone08:02
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epimethmaarch: hello08:02
maarchi need some help with mount an external ntfs hard drive in linux kubuntu08:03
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maarchthe device is recognized and i am able to mount it manually08:03
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maarchhow can i do to be able to mount it by double clickin the popup that appears when it is plugged in?08:04
SilentDismaarch: a usb drive i assume?08:04
maarchyes it is08:04
BluesKajepimeth, nothing wrong with a lil toke now & then  ;> )08:04
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x_linkHi08:05
x_linkJust installed Kubuntu 6.10 on my machine08:05
maarchhi x_link08:05
x_link7.04 cd didn't work =/08:05
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x_linkThat was  my last cd.08:05
x_linkAnyway08:05
x_linkI have been using Debian otherwise08:06
jujimufux_link: well, what about re-burning the ISO?08:06
x_linkjujimufu: It's not a CD-rw =/08:06
x_link /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:06
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jujimufux_link: oh, and you don't have any other CD's?08:06
x_linkWhen I did that in Debian then X got killed and I came to CLI08:06
x_linkBut in Kubuntu that doesn't happen?08:06
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x_linkjujimufu: No =/08:06
jujimufux_link: you can upgrade to feisty by doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, I think. You can check the ubuntu forums for more details.08:06
x_linkI want to install the nvidia driver, so how do I kill X and come to CLI?08:06
maarchgo into tty108:07
jujimufux_link: ctrl+alt+f2?08:07
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x_linkjujimufu: Okej.08:07
SilentDisx_link: after killing kdm, drop to tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1)08:07
maarchkillall x08:07
x_linkhmm08:07
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SilentDisx_link: or, f2, all the way to f6 in fact hehe :)08:07
eXistenzwhen in kubuntu console I get ^[[D instead of moving left, when pressing the left arrow key, what might cause this?08:07
epimethx_link: or you can just ctl_alt_f1/2/3/4/5 and not have to close x08:07
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epimethget back to x by alt_f708:08
mintyhi any one good with beryl08:08
SilentDiseXistenz: <ot>I saw the movie you're named after.  that was a trip.  :D</ot>08:08
x_linkepimeth: You kill X to install the nvidia driver08:08
epimethx_link: that would be correct08:08
epimethbest to not kill, but nicely shut down tho08:09
jujimufuguys, what repos do you have to add to sources.list in order to install beryl? I have it installed already, I don't need to install it, I just want to know because I have forgotten.08:09
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jujimufuAnd I don't know which ones are official and which ones are not, in sources.list08:09
SilentDisjujimufu: kubuntu 7.04?08:09
epimethx_link:  so log off, ctrl+alt into a cli, then sudo /etc/init/kdm stop08:09
epimethx_link: then you should be able to install the drivers08:10
x_linkepimeth: okej08:10
epimethx_link: remember to back up your xorg.conf first!08:10
epimethI hope he saw that...08:11
llp78jujimufu: mmunity maintained (Universe) and Non-free (Multiverse) boxes.08:11
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pfeinin kmail, is there a way to delete from local folders & bypass the trash?08:15
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epimethshift+del08:15
epimethI guess08:15
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jujimufullp78: thanks08:17
ubuntu_list08:17
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pfeinepimeth: huh08:17
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epimethpfein: instead of just deleting, press shift while you're doing it... that should permanently delete instead of sending to trash08:20
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pfeinepimeth: yup, so it did.08:20
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gobanwhyso@whyso-desktop:~/_spe$ speYou need to install at least wxPython v2.5.4.1 to run SPE. python-wxgtk2.8 is already the newest version. help???08:20
pfeinwas just surprised I couldn't find it on the menus ;-) makes sense tho - like konq.08:20
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pfeinthx08:20
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BluesKaj!tuxfamily08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tuxfamily - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
Small_Maccould someone tell me how to get rid of/uninstall the 2.6.20-15 kernel that shows at boot screen so i only have the -16 version left, i could just edit grub menu file, but i wanted to get rid of it, especially since i don't know how big a file the old kernel is08:21
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BluesKaj!edit-grub08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edit-grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
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llp78Small_Mac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45990108:23
Small_Macthx BluesKaj and llp7808:23
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BluesKajllp78, http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/1670108:25
bridget_i have a problem loading the live cd. It says no errors yet when it gets to setting up networks it just stops. any ideas why?08:25
BluesKajerr Small_Mac http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/1670108:25
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Small_Macthx again BluesKaj =)08:27
llp78BluesKaj: when you edit grub you dont actually remove the kernel, but rather hide it from grub - he asked about removing it08:27
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BluesKajSmall_Mac, hhmm, don't think that page is gonna help you'08:27
llp78this page will http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45990108:27
BluesKajllp78, yeah it's dangerous removing kernels :)08:28
BluesKajeven old ones08:28
llp78not if you follow the guide08:28
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Small_Macic, how big is each kernel anyway08:29
llp78i would just leave it - can see it taken up much room anyway08:29
Small_Maccuz i don't mind letting it sit there and just edit it outta the grub08:29
Small_Maccool, is there a rough number for the size?08:29
llp78cant see it **08:29
llp7850mb08:29
Small_Macya08:29
Small_Maccool i'll just leave it in peace08:29
Small_Machopefully that'll leave me in peace in return har har08:29
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Small_Macand thx to both u guys again =)08:30
BluesKajSmall_Mac, llp78 one can edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst but that's dangerous too08:30
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Small_MacBluesKaj ya but i messed with the grub yesterday and i did ok, so i think i'm more encouraged to do that today lol08:30
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llp78yep - i had grub issues08:31
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Small_MacBluesKaj right now i'm thinking of just commenting out the old kernel lines with #08:31
ruihi guys08:31
BluesKajI was able to restore hidden grub menu using it tho just commented the hiddenmenu line out08:31
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ruiI have one big issue i can't install java08:31
llp78lost vista when installed kubuntu - took about to weeks to get it duel booting - dont know why though havent used vista sinice08:31
Small_Machehe08:31
BluesKajyes , Small_Mac , commenting out is agood idea08:32
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Small_Maccool, alrights, i'll go try that out08:32
llp78take a backup first08:32
Small_Macya08:32
Small_Macgood point =)08:32
Small_Macwoulda forgot lol08:32
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Cavallekwhat should I use for antivir08:34
bridget_i have a problem loading the live cd. It says no errors yet when it gets to setting up networks it just stops. any ideas why?08:35
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llp78bridget_: what type of network do you have ?08:35
bridget_lip78: Wireless and Wired, just not plugged in during install.08:36
Small_Macis there someway to create an icon on the panel bar that links to a folder? (trying to have a squeaky clean desktop)08:36
Admiral_ChicagoCavallek: no need. you have linux08:36
Admiral_ChicagoCavallek: if you feel paranoid, check out this link08:36
Admiral_Chicago!antivirus08:36
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus08:36
bridget_lip78: My wireless is a dell 1390 :)08:36
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CavallekAdmiral_Chicago, yeah. But my friend told me that he has send to one friend an email for which one he didnt know. And it said to me that it was virus ... Dunno I will try this08:37
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llp78bridget_: its ot to be the wireless, but sorry i havent a clue08:38
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trprCavallek: linux doesn't need any virus. if some company is trying to sell it to you, its not worth the purchase08:39
bridget_lip78: Okay. Thanks.08:39
trprantivrisu that is08:39
Small_Macmy wireless works flawlessly with feisty, it's like the connection is stronger now08:39
trprbah. *curses fingers*08:39
Small_Macso glad i upgraded lol08:39
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bridget_Dell 1390 the BEST wireless card for.........................nothing.... hehehe08:39
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Small_Mactrpr we don't need virus protection is that only because there's significantly less existing viruses written for linux, or that linux somehow jus kill virus, (ya newbie question)08:40
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llp78bridget_: your wireless card is not supported - check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45990108:41
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trprSmall_Mac: linux is just a hostile environment. ive read there are 'proof of concept' linux viruses, but none of them are really practical or a threat.08:41
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Small_Mactrpr cool thx08:41
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Ace2016Hi all08:43
Ace2016can anyone point me to a filesharing howto for linux, i want to share files between a virtual machine (XP in Virtualbox) and the host(feisty)08:44
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mintyany1 good with beryl?08:47
iarwain_hiya, can anyone help me with a mass-renaming? i have files called something_01 something_02 something_10 etc. I'd like to name them like this: something_001 something_002 etc. How do i do this?08:47
BluesKaj!beryl | minty08:48
ubotuminty: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects08:48
Ace2016minty: i use beryl08:48
Ace2016iarwain_: use krename, in the repos08:48
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iarwain_Ace2016: i'll give that a shot, thanks!08:49
trprooh. neat. i was going to suggest some bash scripting but this looks much easier08:49
iarwain_trpr: well, i like bash scripting, care to tell me? =)08:49
hendaushiya all08:50
Ace2016gi08:50
Ace2016Hi08:50
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iarwain_Ace2016: i am not that good with GUI's.. Can you please help me a bit? (or give konsole commands? :D )08:53
Ace2016iarwain_: konsole command for what?08:55
trpriarwain_: err, well you could do it with a for loop that browses over every item in the current directory. for I in *, etc. then for each item you could formulate a new name and then mv the file.. lots of little details which is why i would just use krename08:55
iarwain_trpr: ah, seems a bit too complicated then :)08:55
iarwain_Ace2016: nvm, trpr answered that question ;D08:55
Ace2016iarwain_: oh, sorry, i'm not that good with the command line, which is why i found lots of gui apps to do most things08:56
Small_Mac is there someway to create an icon on the panel bar that links to a folder? (trying to have a squeaky clean desktop)08:56
Ace2016Can someone help me setup a samba share?  i've installed it and edited the config file as show,  then what do i do??? how do i start samba??? http://www.go2linux.org/node/9808:56
epimeth\quit quit08:57
trprAce2016: try sudo /etc/init.d/samba start08:57
iarwain_Ace2016: you start samba with 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' restarting if samba is already started, so it reloads your smb.conf08:57
iarwain_Ace2016: you don't happen to know how to make 2 digits 3 digits? like file01.jpg => file001.jpg? with krename though =)08:58
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trprAce2016: also, after editing your smb.conf file, run 'testparm' to double check the syntax is correct08:59
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SolifugusWhere can I specify a program to start up automatically after boot?08:59
llp78Solifugus, system services09:00
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dominik_hello world09:00
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jetsaredimhow do I switch from blackdown java to sun java?09:00
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Ace2016sudo update-alternatives --config java09:01
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jetsaredimAce2016: how do I switch the firefox plugin?09:02
simihey i am new with kubuntu and i cant get no sound09:02
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Carnage59hello09:02
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simican someone help me09:03
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dominik_I was wondering if anyone could help me, I have a Kubuntu 6.06 LTS installed, but it has stopped getting updates.09:03
Small_Macsimi: hmm ur on feisty? i think i had that on edgy b4, forgot how i did it, but with feisty everything's fine09:03
Carnage59# Un shoot-them-up en 3D filaire. Superbe !09:03
Carnage59# vegastrike : Simulation de c09:03
Ace2016iarwain_: use krename's gui wizard for new users, add the files to the list, next, tell it to rename the input files and to create an undo script, then go to Name: pick custom from the dropdown, give it the part that stays the same, e.g, archive_part, then in suffix: pick number, then change the number of digits, and leave the starting number to zero, that'll do it, it'll make archive_part001.zip (if zip was the original09:04
Ace2016extension)09:04
dominik_when I use the apt-get command, it says its trying to connect to remote server,  but nothing happens09:04
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simismall mac: feisty?09:05
Ace2016dominik_: sure there are updates? what are you looking for?09:05
MaTiAzHow do I get rid of Katapult? It's annoying when it pops up when I accidentally press alt and space :|09:05
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dominik_Ace2016: it stopped updating about 4 months ago09:05
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Ace2016dominik_: maybe there aren't any updated packages09:06
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Ace2016trpr: now that samba has been started how do i connect to it from windows?09:07
dominik_normally, there used to be icon at the system try to indicate updates and security updates...that doesn't come up anymore09:07
simismall mac: what is feisty09:07
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Ace2016Kubuntu 7.04, codenamed Feisty Fawn09:08
trpr Ace2016: from windows? search for computers or network neighborhood. it will show up like its just another windows machine09:08
Ace2016ok thanks09:09
trprAce2016: there is some more work involved to get pw based login working, but the security level 'share' should work at this point without any more config09:09
dominik_I think there must be a problem somewhere, I even installed Kubuntu on another machine, and I can't get updates for that too09:09
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simiDo anyone know, how i set my sound on kubuntu 6.06?09:10
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payamno09:10
Ace2016simi: set volume? try kmix09:11
siminot the volume, the soundcard itself09:11
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iarwain_Ace2016: got a problem, they still won't line-up correctly, something_10 still comes before something_2 .. that's what i'm trying to correct xD09:12
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simithere s a red cross over the speaker09:13
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dominik_thanks guys, nothing is working for me. I will have to go back to Windows09:16
Ace2016iarwain_: select something_0 > something_9 then convert them to something_000 to something_010 then do 11 to 99, and your done09:16
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iarwain_Ace2016: will try, thanks!09:16
jacqueshi09:16
Ace2016hi09:16
trprdominik_: heh. try sudo apt-get update09:17
jacquesHow can I type this symbol in console09:17
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trprdominik_: all your sources update correctly?09:17
Ace2016jacques: copy and paste?09:17
Pensacolais there a way to make kubuntu print in reverse order, last page first09:17
Pensacolaby default?09:17
jacques~/.kde09:17
jacquesI can not find it09:17
simihelp09:17
jacquesthe first one09:17
simiheeeeeelp?09:18
dominik_I've tried sudo apt-get update it times out09:18
Ace2016jacques: thats the same as /home/username/.kde09:18
Ace2016jacques: ~ on my keyboard is next to enter above #09:18
jacquesyes but i want to make autostart beryl09:18
BluesKajdominik_, not all repos are available 24hrs/day09:18
jacquesI am using an english us keyboard09:19
trprdominik_: ok. you said you have another kubuntu installation? look at /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure each line (source) is the same09:19
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dominik_they are the same...09:19
simiforget about the sound09:20
rafaelahhhhhhhhhhhh09:20
trprdominik_: and apt-get update hangs? does it recover eventually?09:20
jacquesok I found it09:20
jacquesthank you09:20
rafael:)09:20
simianother problem:how can i format a harddisk09:20
dominik_the second one is a new installation, it hangs too09:20
dominik_when it times out, it will return to the prompt09:21
rafaelalguem ai do brasil ?09:21
trprdominik_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ .. paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file so i can take a look09:21
simispricht hier jemand deutsch?09:21
dominik_ok09:21
llutz!de|simi09:21
ubotusimi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:21
dominik_wait...09:21
BluesKaj!de | simi09:21
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weswh-when i upgraded to fiesty i lost my trash can - how do i get there?09:24
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usagi__hi i have live cd issues. when gdm loads all i see is a white screen.09:25
trprdominik_: this is a pretty dumb question, but both pcs have internet access? that is the only thing i can think of if the sources.list file contains valid respositories09:26
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trprdominik_: but from the sounds of it, the repos in that file can't be reached.. apt-get update hangs, etc.09:27
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dominik_here is the link of the paste bin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24293/09:29
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binks_BluesKaj: did you look at squeak i just got home from work09:30
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Ace2016is it just me or does dominik_ only have one repo enabled?09:31
trprAce2016: i think the addresses are invalid now, and some program commented them out09:33
dominik_Ace2016: that is the default I have on the old installation and I got updates before it stopped updating09:33
usagi__looks like only one rest are commented09:33
Ace2016trpr: well i can go to the urls09:33
petrgn09:33
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Ace2016hm09:34
trpri am just working off of the comment in the file itself. # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:09:34
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usagi__hmmmm09:34
BluesKajyes binks , you mean scratch i hope ... I emailed the link to my kids09:34
Ace2016could have been any installer, i'd try uncommenting them and reloading, might work, might not09:35
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Emessiv got a windows box with wifi and i need to share that connection with kubuntu over lan, anyway to do that? kubuntu currently has no internet connection09:35
BluesKajstevec_, congrats09:35
stevec_BluesKaj: thanks! amazing how much you miss it!09:35
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athlon64_whitch is the kernel module confiration at Kubuntu?09:36
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trprdominik_: try what Ace2016 suggested. uncomment (remove the preceding #) the entries.. might also try adding ... deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted09:36
trprdominik_: test changes to the file w/ sudo apt-get update09:36
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Ace2016athlon64_: lsmod shows loaded modules, sudo morprobe nvidia, will load nvidia, sudo rmmod nvidia will unload it, nvidia was used as an example since its the only module i know09:37
binks_BluesKaj: need to get in bath then im gonna try installing it see what its like i may also look into building a small robot with them and using linux embedded09:37
dominik_ok09:37
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BluesKajcool binks_ :)09:38
lglgalera boa noite09:38
LjL!pt09:38
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:38
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binks_ill let you no how i get on09:38
lglqual sua duvida amigo?09:38
LjL!pt | lgl09:38
ubotulgl: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:38
dominik_trpr: how do I test changes to the file w/ sudo apt-get update?09:38
lglalgum brasileiro na area?09:39
trprdominik_: it shouldn09:39
trprdominik_: it shouldn't hang anymore09:39
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trprdominik_: or at least, it should update the sources we played with09:39
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dominik_trpr: sorry, I still don't understand how to test changes to the file w/ sudo apt-get update09:40
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trprdominik_:' sudo apt-get update' attempts to read the file and update the sources.. it will either succeed or fail09:40
LjLdominik_: and i don't understand what the question means09:41
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trprdominik_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories09:41
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dominik_trpr: everytime I run that command, it says its trying to connect to the remote server, and after a while, it says it can not be reached and that it has timed off09:42
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trprdominik_: meaning the contents of that file are no good OR you have no internet connection OR some firewall is blocking you09:42
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trprprobably a few more ORs to boot09:42
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dominik_but I can browse the web, and am talking to you guys from the same computer09:43
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trprthat makes me think the sources listed in that file are no good09:43
dominik_...there's internet connection on the computer09:43
trprdominik_: see that url i posted. there is an example sources.list file right there that looks pretty valid09:44
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dominik_trpr: ok, will try it now09:47
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anthony__is the interface in kubuntu vector based?09:48
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isaac_hola09:48
isaac_hi09:48
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MinceRi've got a notebook and the display turns black after a few minutes of inactivity (it doesn't turn off -- the backlight is still on). i've turned off the screensaver and display/power saving09:51
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BluesKajanthony__, geez I hope so :)09:51
MinceRthere's no other screensaver running and i've turned off power saving with xset09:51
anthony__BluesKay: lol excuse my ignorance im a linux newbie and started off with gnome..09:52
MinceRyet it still blanks -- how can i stop this?09:52
anthony__and im thinking of switching to kubuntu..09:52
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BluesKajanthony__, just kidding of course ...i have no idea what that means :)09:52
athlon64_Im trying to exec alsaconf command but i get the error:bash: alsaconf: command not found09:52
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anthony__BluesKay: i mean like.. a bitmap vs a pdf.. zooming does not distort the quality.09:53
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trpranthony__: i don't think so. from what i am reading, it is planned. konqueror has a svg plugin but i don't think the entire interface is vector graphics09:54
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BluesKajanthony__, kubuntu can do most graphics stuff including bleeding edge , but not all games will run on it from the reports what i've seen09:55
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Small_Macis there some easy way to add icons for applications to the desktop09:55
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trprie you can set your background to a vector graphic but i don't think the widgets themselves are using them09:56
trpri dunno. hopefully someone will correct me ;)09:56
BluesKajSmall_Mac, in thr k-menu right click on the app you want ..and a dialog box will give the options09:56
binks_trpr: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/5757/1/09:56
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Small_MacBluesKaj thx alot09:57
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Small_MacBluesKaj is there some way to put the desktop icons in the kicker?09:57
BluesKaj??09:58
trprbinks_: i think the question was if the interface used svg, not if it was possible to create/edit them. does qt currently use vector graphics? what about qt4?09:58
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njt88hi fellas09:58
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njt88so, I have an external  hdd that is formatted ntfs and i cant make the mofo mount#09:58
Small_MacBluesKaj as in somehow make an icon in the k panel bar that links to say a folder that's currently on desktop, cuz i'd like no folder icon on desktop anyway =)09:58
BluesKajk-menu=kicker Small_Mac09:58
njt88i have iuntsalled the ntfs configuration tool, but it still wont cooperate09:59
Small_MacBluesKaj ah i meant the panel bar then, srry for the confusion09:59
BluesKajyes the same way one puts an app on the desktop, there's a panel option too10:00
binks_trpr: yes i think it does >> http://www.digitalfanatics.org/qt4/articles/rc1.html10:00
binks_qt4 is the main reason im starting to learn c++10:00
Small_MacBluesKaj cool thx10:01
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trprbinks_: ah. neat. thanks for the articles.10:01
binks_njt88: what error you gettin10:01
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dominik_bye guys...am fed up10:01
Small_MacBluesKaj is there something similar for the folders that i create?10:02
dominik_i think I will stick with Windows10:02
trprdominik_: thats your choice. sorry we couldn't fix your sources.list problem10:02
BluesKajtoo bad dominik_ ...sorry to hear that :(10:02
dominik_trpr: thanks for your help10:02
trprdominik_: np. i hope you give it another try sometime ;)10:03
dominik_I guess Linux is not for me10:03
binks_dominik_: dont give up so easy10:03
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dominik_am just starring at the computer and can't make it work :(10:04
dasnipadominik_: setup time takes the longest... but once you get everything working then you are golden10:04
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njt88binks_thx for responding dude... if i try to manually mount it with sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external   it shoows up as a folder  and if i try to go into it i get You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/external10:04
binks_dominik_: that feeling is adictive i love it whats your problem10:04
BluesKajyes Small_Mac , just like any other app , one can copy and paste to create a shortcut10:04
dominik_..it feels very fustrating not to be able to install all the software I wanted to install and run10:04
binks_njt88: you need to get rid of the mount point first10:05
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BluesKajwhat software are referring to , dominik_ ?10:05
binks_dominik_: what you installing10:05
binks_dominik_: | repos10:05
njt88binks_  ok man.. so umount it?10:05
binks_njt88: yes10:05
njt88done10:05
trprbinks_: i think his sources.list is borked. apt-get update hangs forever. the file he posted to pastebin had mostly commented out sources w/ comments saying they couldn't be validated10:06
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njt88binks_ then?10:06
dominik_I have been using windows over the years, and wanted to try out Linux by installing LAMP and do a small project with it, but..nope, it can't get any updates10:06
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binks_dominik_: | !repos10:06
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BluesKajwell , one can always delete the sourceslist and generate a new one that works10:07
binks_njt88: have you ot ntfs config tool installed10:07
dominik_binks_: it can not connect to update centers to download updates10:07
binks_dominik_: are you on dapper edgy of fiesty10:07
Small_MacBluesKaj hmm, ok, a little confused =) but, so if i have a desktop folder right now, could i add a link to that folder onto the k panel bar, this is only a minor thing, don't worry about it if i'm being too confusing =)10:07
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dominik_I can't download apache10:07
binks_dominik_: are you on a nat10:07
binks_ie internal lan10:07
dominik_am on Kubuntu 6.06 LTS10:08
njt88binks_  i do10:08
BluesKajdunno Small_Mac , lemme try that ..hang on10:08
dominik_yes, I have a router10:08
binks_njt88: now run it it should pick up your ntfs drive10:08
Small_MacBluesKaj thx alot10:08
njt88binks_ the top option of enable write support for internal device is greyed out and the enable write supprt for external device IS checked10:09
binks_dominik_: the prob i think is you need to add the default gate to a config file gis a sec i will try to remeber which one10:09
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binks_njt88: thats right10:09
dominik_..but it used to work before, but it stopped a few months back, I tried installing Linux on another machine yesterday, it still can't get updates or download programs10:09
njt88ok due... but then it wont auto mount#10:09
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binks_njt88: ust a sec ill redo mine seee what happens10:10
njt88binks_ cool thx10:10
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BluesKajSmall_Mac, just drag the folder into the panel and choose "add as file manager url"10:11
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binks_njt88: did you go into kmenu sys settings advance discs and delete the ref to you ntfs drive10:12
Small_MacBluesKaj omg wow, thx soo much, been looking for this for awhile, thx again =)10:12
BluesKajhey np Small_Mac ...glad to help :)10:12
Small_Mac=)10:13
njt88binks_   ummm (???)10:13
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binks_njt88: kmenu> system settings > advance tab> disk nd filesystem10:14
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njt88binks_  ok dude  ... i am there, and am in the modify settings part... what now? :P10:15
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binks_go into admin mode10:15
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njt88binks_  yup10:15
binks_lower right10:15
njt88binks_ yup10:15
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binks_njt88: ok is your ntfs drive listed and does it have a mount point10:16
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njt88it is listed.  it does not appear to havbe a mount point10:16
binks_dominik_: not forgot you but ill deal with this first10:17
JuJuBee_Im using tar to backup my home dir to an external (FAT32) HD.  I need to split the tar, don't I (greater than 3GB data)?10:17
binks_hmm but still in ntfs-config you dont get the top option10:17
JuJuBee_What switch does that?10:17
binks_JuJuBee_: fat is 4gb10:18
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llutzJuJuBee_: split splits10:18
njt88binks_   right10:18
binks_well have you rebooted last shot im afraid10:18
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binks_!ntfs10:18
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:18
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JuJuBee_Thought Fat was 2GB.10:19
binks_you have got fuse installed10:19
njt88binks_   i just enabled it  one sec dude10:19
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binks_sorry fat32 is 4 gb10:19
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mark_if I'm running kubuntu 64 is it a fair assumption that packages I install from apt-get are also 64bit (where applicable)?10:21
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JuJuBee_!backup10:23
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning10:23
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fdovingmark_: yes, all packages are 64bit in a 64bit install. usually.10:23
BluesKaj!Feisty-64bit10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feisty-64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
lars__kennt jemand nen Dreamcast emulator fr Linux (sry wenn die Frage dumm war [binn Linux noob] 10:23
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fdoving!de | lars__10:23
mark_fdoving: thank you10:23
ubotulars__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:23
BluesKaj!kubuntu-6410:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
mark_I'm actually running a dual-boot configuration in order to compare Vista 64 (blah) and Kubuntu 64.  I just want to be sure I'm comparing "apples to apples"10:24
binks_dominik_: do you want to try my fiesty sources list10:25
BluesKajit's not possible linux and windows ain't apple vs apples ..it's apples & oranges10:25
fdovingor apples vs. motorbikes :)10:25
BluesKajor gawd forbis even macOSX10:26
JuJuBee_binks_ : my home dir is over 11GB...10:26
binks_BluesKaj: more like apples and sour grapes lol10:26
JuJuBee_Just checked...10:26
mark_BluesKaj: as much as I can compare two different OS that both leverage 64bit architechure10:26
binks_JuJuBee_: nice so you need to split then ive not done it10:26
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BluesKajhehe binks_10:27
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mag_Hello could you help me eith wine please !10:27
binks_!wine10:27
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:27
BluesKajleverage , interesting description for OS's10:27
mark_BluesKaj: I would not, for instance, install Vista 64 and compare it to Kubuntu 32, nor visa versa.  I'm a linux convert, don't get me wrong.  I just want a system in my office I can point to and say "see, this is how you compare these two platforms"10:27
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binks_mark_: i see what your doin its nice to to see them running and the differences10:28
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BluesKajhmmm mark , ok , but the use of thew word apples is unfortunate for those who are mac lovers :)10:28
njt88binks_  ok, it is now mounted,  but not with writepermissions even though it is checked off in the advanced part10:29
JuJuBee_binks_ : found this...# tar -cjvp . | split -b 1024m - /mnt/backup/backup.tar.bz2.10:29
mark_binks_: and I like to think in fairness since they are the same architechure and the same hardware, the differences in performance ought to be obviously software related.  I'm eager to install Beryl so I can compare it to Aero.. though to be honest I don't think Aero will run on this box without another 1/2gig of RAM10:29
JuJuBee_Just what I needed...10:29
binks_njt88: sudo chmod -r 777 /mnt/point10:29
BluesKajnjt88, binks_ ..may i interject here , perhaps a ntfs-config install might help10:30
njt88binks_  sorted dude.   you're a star10:30
njt88BluesKaj: thats what i did10:30
njt88thx guys!!!!10:30
binks_BluesKaj: its not playing10:30
njt88you are all a credit to foss!!!10:30
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binks_dominik_: read this thred  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435985&highlight=repos+dns10:31
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BluesKajbinks_ , not playing ?10:31
binks_BluesKaj: ntfs-config woulnt work i had to do it old way too10:32
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binks_its a bit buggy if you already mounted drive b410:32
BluesKajoh ok10:32
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BluesKajit's just that i have my windows partition mounted and read & writeable but it's always mounted /enabled and i'd like it to mount when I want access10:34
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BluesKajbinks_ only when I want access10:34
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usagi__my kubuntu64 install stopped at 85% the disk is fine it just stopped. Any ideas?10:38
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PhinnFort!ntfs10:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse10:39
PhinnFort!ntfs-3g10:39
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions10:39
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binks_PhinnFort: install ntfs-config10:44
PhinnFortbinks_: didn't do me much good10:44
PhinnFortI10:44
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PhinnFort'm trying to access an external drive10:44
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binks_whats happening10:44
PhinnFortbut when I'm trying to access it, hald won't accept my UID (1000)10:44
PhinnFortor so Dolphin tells me10:44
binks_!uid10:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:44
PhinnFortand the ntfs-3g package, doesn't seem to have ntfs3g-mount10:45
binks_!fuse10:45
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse10:45
binks_i dont have an exsternal drive sorry10:45
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PhinnFortfound it, it just wasn't executable by my user10:45
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binks_:) another happy customer10:46
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PhinnFort;)10:46
PhinnFortwell, not yet10:46
PhinnFortbut now I have the tools, at least10:46
PhinnFortargh... the disk wasn't ejected cleanly10:47
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njt88binks_    thx dude.  totally 100% sorted.  even after a full reboot.  :D:D:D10:48
njt88ltr!!!10:48
PhinnFortah... it's moving files now...10:49
PhinnFortwhat a good feeling10:49
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PhinnFortawfully slow, though10:49
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binks_slow better than no :010:50
PhinnFortI guess;)10:51
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PhinnFortit actually isn't that slow either, it's just that "mv" doesn't show a progress bar or anything10:51
mark_quick; what's the CLI web browser called?10:51
PhinnFortmarkl10:51
PhinnFortmark_: links10:51
PhinnFortBeer load [  \                  ]  12%10:51
PhinnFortBeer load [  \                  ]  13%10:51
PhinnFortsorry:P10:51
mark_Phthanks10:52
mark_PhinnFort: thanks10:52
PhinnFortyw10:52
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PhinnFortdarn those with similar nicknames10:52
binks_PhinnFort: looool10:52
PhinnFort:P10:52
angasulewhich MSN clients can check who has you blocked? I think gaim can do it? can kopete? how?10:52
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PhinnFortangasule: none, afaik10:52
PhinnFortangasule: not anymore, at least10:53
angasulePhinnFort: bummer10:53
PhinnFortangasule: they changed something in how you blocked people, and now it doesn't work anymore10:53
angasuleoh? they finally fixed it so it's serverside only?10:53
PhinnFortsomething like that10:53
angasuleah, good, I guess10:53
binks_kopete s by far my fav10:53
PhinnFortsame here;)10:53
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angasuleyeah, kopete is the best, but I had to check for that and I remembered gaim doing it10:55
PhinnFort<3 Kopete <3 all the way10:55
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christian__Hallo10:56
PhinnForthallo10:57
PhinnFort!hi | christian__10:57
ubotuchristian__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:57
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Small_Macis there some way to configure the universal sidebar so that its full length does not extend to the bottom of the screen, and so that i can shrink it and have it align in the middle on the left side10:59
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binks_nn all11:05
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Small_Macis there someway to configure the kubuntu universal sidebar to shrink its panel length?11:11
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rodrigoola11:12
rodrigoalguien que hable ezpanol11:12
rodrigo_11:12
angasule!es11:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:12
rodrigookey11:12
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Small_Macis there someway to configure the kubuntu universal sidebar to shrink its panel length?11:15
jujimufuI have downloaded gnome-bluetooth, bluez, gammu and wammu, and I have set up gammurc to have a pin, namely 5432. But when I run wammu and it detects my phone, on my phone I am asked whether I want a connection with the computer. I say yes, and it asks for a password. I put the password I have pre-arranged, but it says "connection failed". Any ideas?11:15
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YorokobiDoes Konqueror have an scp hook (similar to smb:///) ?11:20
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trprYorokobi: i think its fish://11:25
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Yorokobitrpr, yup. Thanks.11:26
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feroxdoes anyone know how to enable/disable kde system tray?11:37
GrahamARemove it?11:37
see-gferox: my guess: right-click on a free area of the kicker, -> remove from panel -> applet -> system tray11:38
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GrahamAYeah.11:38
see-g(sometimes you have to go into the "panel menu" first)11:38
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GrahamAAlso you can't do it when panels are locked.11:39
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vlt|homeHello. Does anyone know what file format ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konq_history is? -- Doesn't really look very XML ;-)11:39
see-g...and does anyone here know how to read a Palm Pilot-database on my comp?11:39
ActionParsniphey all11:39
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freddimoin hab mal ne kurze frage wei jemand wie man so ein java sachen startet ubuntu11:39
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see-g(I just got a database with some texts I'd need to read but don't have a Palm Pilot to read it on)11:40
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see-gfreddi: you've hit the english-speaking kubuntuchannel ;) try #kubuntu-de11:40
see-gfreddi: versuch's mal mit java <dein Programm>?11:40
freddiok thank you man11:40
ActionParsnipdoes anyone use mail-notification11:41
ActionParsnipor can suggest an alternative?11:41
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feroxsee-g: are u able to do that?11:43
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GrahamAActionParsnip: Apparently not.11:43
ActionParsnipGrahamA: oh well11:43
ActionParsnipI just want email so that when i minimise it it doesnt sits out of the way like Outllok does11:44
ActionParsnipOutlook11:44
ActionParsnipso i get continual email notifications11:44
feroxsee-g: i'm a stupid newbie11:44
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feroxi did it11:45
NotFaintHey, I know how there's stuff like lspci and whatever else; does anybody know of a command I can use to get serial numbers of hard drives?11:45
see-gferox: congratulations :)11:45
feroxi founded my systray :)11:45
NotFaintEr not serials but models, you know -- WD800BBQLOL etc11:45
see-gNotFaint: maybe hdparm -i (your device) is what you are looking for11:47
see-gyou'll probably have to sudo it11:48
NotFaintsee-g: I'll give it a shot, thanks.11:48
NotFaintsee-g: hah, weird, that just gave me the parameter list, but in that list is exactly what I typed11:48
NotFaintoh duh heh gotta have device11:48
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gdiebelNotFaint: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda (substitute device)11:49
see-gsudo hdparm -i /dev/hda would be a basic thing ;)11:49
NotFaintyeah, got it, running slow today11:49
NotFaintfound what I wanted exactly, thanks all11:49
NotFaintback to work I go :P11:50
see-ganother way to find that information would be 1) take a screwdriver b) open your computer's case c) pull out the hdd you're looking for d) read the label e) put it back together11:50
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Small_Machow configurable is the kde universal sidebar, can i shrink its length?11:51
see-ggoodness me, I'm stupid to stick to having such a list in 1 2 3 4 5 or a b c d e...11:51
see-gadd a "too" to that line11:51
jthomasSmall_Mac: sure; right click it, configure.  Pick the sidebar from the drop-down at the top, and configure away...11:52
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jthomasSmall_Mac: maybe not!  this is the first i've used it, so i just assumed so.  My mistake.11:52
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Small_Macjthomas o yeah np at all thx for the suggestions, i first used it today too =)11:54
jthomasi just added a new Panel to auto-hide on the left and only hold the QuickLauncher and only be as big as the number of apps requires.  Kinda like the OSX launcher thing, but no zooming :(  but its better since it hides, and it update as i use software.  Very awesome, i am really into it.  Why isn't KDE/Kubuntu set up with a bit more zazz like thse types of things?11:55
jthomasthe default Kubuntu is very boring, and too many people are afraid of computers to really try to change much.  They get stuck with boring forever!11:55
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ActionParsnipjthomas: KUbuntu has a very clean look11:57
ActionParsnipjthomas: I like it11:58
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jthomasActionParsnip: the purple and grey?  i don't... but i guess thats part of why linux rocks, so much to choose from and customize...11:59
ActionParsnipjthomas: I have KDE blue, the ultramarine theme for eryl11:59
ActionParsnip*Beryl12:00
jthomasActionParsnip: so you change it too.  meaning the default bores you.12:00
ActionParsnipjthomas: but yes it is very customisable12:00
ActionParsnipjthomas: some folk prefer very basic Windows Managers to increase speed12:00
jthomasActionParsnip: of course it is, but why not try to distinguish it a bit from all the other KDEs out there?12:00
jthomasActionParsnip: i get that, but they wouldn't use KDE then12:01
ActionParsnipjthomas: I just check my mail and browse the web a little, I dont hover on my PC loads. I use KUbuntu cos its easy to use and I dont have to worry about all these Windows viri12:01
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jthomasi just think that too many KDEs look similar.  If Kubuntu wants to stand out, a bit more visual bling would be good.12:02
illriginalAnyone know of a P2P program (Not Torrent) that is for videos only or has videos to download?12:02
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jthomasDemocracyPlayer12:02
ActionParsnipjthomas: If you want a sweet wallpaper for free hit http://www.vladstudio.com12:02
jthomasillriginal: Democracy player, just renamed Miro12:02
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ActionParsnipits got some straight banging pics12:02
jthomasActionParsnip: I'll check it, thanks!12:02
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ActionParsnipjthomas: do you use email-notification12:03
illriginaljthomas, is that a player? Or a client that I can use to download videos?12:03
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jthomasillriginal: both12:04
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illriginalso i should use sdo apt-get install Miro?12:04
illriginalsudo*12:04
jthomasillriginal: it does RSS feeds, torrents, Google Video stuff, downloads, playes, saves, updates.... its awesome12:04
illriginalnice12:05
jthomasillriginal: i don' think it is named Miro in the repos yet, that just happened today.  Use Adept to look for Democracy, or check Google for the website12:05
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jthomasActionParsnip: i use Gajim for chatting with Google Gmail, and it tells me if i have emails12:05
jthomasActionParsnip: but generally, not really.  i always have emails :)12:06
ActionParsnipfair point :)12:06
ActionParsniphmm idea12:06
ActionParsnipjthomas: thanks man :)12:06
jthomasActionParsnip: yep!12:06
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sercikActionParsnip: what do you think about my desktop? Is kubuntu!! http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1yh9.png12:07
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ActionParsnipsercik: just checking, my connection is slow today for some weird reason12:09
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sercikno problem i'm happy that you check it!12:10
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ActionParsnipsercik: looks nicee man'12:13
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sercikthank you!12:14
serciki have been inspired by linuxmint!12:14

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