[12:17] <DexterF> kub sets "ati" for radeon for reasons beyond be, and no, that's not the same as "radeon"
[12:17] <sad> ifrog: where i need to write this problems about beryl? DexterF just wanted to help
[12:17] <DexterF> that's one thing
[12:17] <nosrednaekim> DexterF: yes it is the same thing.
[12:18] <DexterF> sad: 2.16.10 rather sounds like a kernel or gnome version. i meant the Kubuntu version
[12:18] <DexterF> nosrednaekim: no it ain't
[12:18] <ifrog> sad, could you tell me again what the problem was ?
[12:18] <hendaus> can i use yahoo messenger on kubuntu?
[12:18] <ifrog> i was not here.
[12:18] <sercik> somone is good with data recovery??
[12:18] <sercik> i have killed one partition :(
[12:18] <DexterF> sercik: define "killed"
[12:18] <sercik> i have done shift+del on harddisk on desktop
[12:19] <sad> ifrog: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" i got this message
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> DexterF: ati automatically selects radeon.. ati also inclues the r128 driver.. its kinda a meta package
[12:19] <sercik> i tought that was a shortcut!
[12:19] <hendaus> helpers!!!! can i use yahoo messenger on kubuntu?
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> hendaus: yeppers
[12:19] <_4strO> hendaus: yes with gaim or pidgin or kopette
[12:19] <sercik> i have canceled immediatly, but know when i mount partion it appears empty
[12:19] <DexterF> nosrednaekim: not here at least. no 3D with ati, set it to radeon manually, tadaa.
[12:19] <_4strO> not sure about kopette
[12:19] <hendaus> nosrednaekim:  yepper?
[12:19] <sad> ifrog: beryl not working....
[12:20] <ifrog> sad, which card ?
[12:20] <sercik> DexterF: is not possible that i have completely deleted partition is few swconds!
[12:20] <hendaus> _4strO:  which one is better/
[12:20] <sercik> i have canceled immediatly
[12:20] <DexterF> nosrednaekim: even if they symlink to the same file doesn't mean noone in the startup process makes "if" choices from evaluating the call
[12:20] <_4strO> i like pidgin
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> sercik: ummm... was that your root partiton?
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> hendaus: yes.
[12:20] <sercik> no
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> kopete does work.
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> with yahoo
[12:20] <sercik> was a ntfs partition
[12:20] <DexterF> sercik: you pressed shift+del in *what*
[12:20] <sercik> yes! shift+del
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> DexterF:  thats very interesting.
[12:20] <sercik> but i have canceled immediattly
[12:20] <NickPresta> hendaus: I prefer Pidgin (Gaim), although with the 3.5.7 update, Kopete is more usable now (and faster). Try both and see which you like
[12:21] <sad> DexterF: Feisty Favn
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> sercik: how much data did you lose?
[12:21] <sercik> 20 Giga!
[12:21] <sercik> but repeat is not possible that in few second linux have deleted 20 giga
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> sercik: wait.. it deleted all 20 gigabytes in 1 second?
[12:22] <sercik> i have done shift +del and then after few seonds 2-3 i have presse enter
[12:22] <DexterF> sad: that would be 7.04. I have rather decent results here with Xorg's own radeon module. with a little driconf tweaking even Google Earth works. I guess it stops at games tho
[12:22] <sercik> to cancel
[12:22] <_4strO> sercik: it is, you have just delete some octet in the partition table
[12:22] <sercik> i'm sure that i have not deleted
[12:22] <sercik> in just 2-3 seconds
[12:22] <sad> DexterF: yeah i just downloaded 2 days ago
[12:22] <sercik> for now i have done  sudo dd if=/dev/hda6 of=/media/G/hda6.img
[12:23] <DexterF> sercik: if you lost ntfs data, probably only the Master File Table was overwritten. unmount, don't touch the partition, get a clean system and Stellar Phoenix, I got very good results with that one, but it's payware and need windows.
[12:23] <DexterF> (now *that's* offtopic)
[12:23] <sercik> "/dev/hda6 is the partition that i have deleted
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> sercik: no experience with recovering ntfs partition data... you might want to look in trash though?
[12:24] <DexterF> sercik: if you by accident deleted a partiton table entry gpart might help
[12:24] <sercik> i don't think i have deleted partition table
[12:25] <sercik> i have only pressed shift+del on partition icon on desktop
[12:25] <sercik> i don't understand why some icons appears randomly on my desktop
[12:26] <DexterF> sercik: did you fire up a konsole and see if you can read the disk from there? maybe was really only an icon...
[12:26] <_4strO> sercik: lol ok
[12:26] <sercik> DexterF: i have done
[12:26] <sercik> it
[12:26] <sercik> and appears empty
[12:27] <momo> hzllo
[12:27] <DexterF> tough luck. then it's Phoenix. that is, that's why I would do
[12:27] <hendaus> helpers!! why kopete and amsn doesnot have microphone?
[12:27] <sercik> is very strange i have 5 partition mounted but noone appears on desktop
[12:27] <sercik> except /dev/hda6 tha i have deleted :((
[12:27] <NickPresta> @sercik: check your /media folder.
[12:28] <sercik> amsn have microphone
[12:28] <momo> it's the first time i use ubuntu can anyone help me ?
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> hendaus: you mean voice capability?
[12:28] <hendaus> nosrednaekim: yes
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> momo: sure.. whats the problem?
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> hendaus: yahoo has a voice service?
[12:28] <NickPresta> @momo: Ask your question. What do you need help with?
[12:28] <momo> well i tried to install it and i deleted wondows
[12:29] <hendaus> nosrednaekim:  on kopete?
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> momo: ok... well, some would say you are better off now..
[12:29] <momo> i'm searchin to play avi & mp3 files
[12:29] <momo> lol
[12:29] <momo> but i dont know where i can find codecs
[12:29] <nosrednaekim> momo: install libxine-extracodecs
[12:30] <nosrednaekim> momo: do you know how to install software in Adept?
[12:30] <sercik> if you start amarok and try to play an mp3 it will install codecs for you
[12:30] <momo> whats Adept ?
[12:30] <sercik> _4strO: is not comics is dramatic :(
[12:30] <DexterF> momo: google for "mediabuntu" and read up. enlightenment will dawn.
[12:31] <sercik> !multimedia
[12:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[12:31] <NickPresta> @momo: Search here: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty for commonly asked questions and their solutions (most of which apply to Kubuntu)
[12:31] <sercik> but in feisty multimedia is not already installed??
[12:31] <DexterF> momo: package manager. unless you're really on Ubuntu, not Kubuntu. then you're in the wrong channel anyway
[12:32] <momo> no i'm usin Ubuntu
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> momo: Adept is the one stop shop for pretty much anything you need to install
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> momo: in that case, its called synaptic
[12:33] <hatta> how can I make konqueror always use "detailed list view"?
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> hatta: switch to detailed list view, and then "save view profile" under "settings"
[12:35] <hatta> thanks
[12:35] <momo> another question
[12:36] <hatta> how do I get it to display . and ..?
[12:36] <minty_> hey can any1 help me with beryl please?
[12:36] <DexterF> hatta: I think that's not implemented. If you ever figure, lemme know, I'm really missing ..
[12:36] <momo> can i play widows games ? like age of empires ?
[12:36] <hendaus> helpers i need someone help me with installing java?
[12:36] <RawSewage> www.winehq.com
[12:36] <minty_> momoo use a program called wine
[12:37] <DexterF> momo: unlikely. google for "cedega", if you happen to have an NV video card.
[12:37] <DexterF> if you are on ATi, no go
[12:37] <minty_> Dexter u any good with beryl?
[12:37] <RawSewage> http://appdb.winehq.org/
[12:37] <DexterF> minty_: well.... depends
[12:37] <momo> thanx
[12:37] <momo> i'll try
[12:37] <DexterF> minty_: I got it working :P
[12:37] <minty_> help me start it lol
[12:37] <minty_> thats good enuff help
[12:37] <minty_> lol
[12:38] <minty_> it just came with some huge meeage in konsole mentioned summin bout glx
[12:39] <DexterF> http://pastebin.ca/537931
[12:39] <hendaus> any helper can help with java installation, thanx
[12:39] <nzk> My computer is running very slowly.
[12:39] <nzk> Like no media will play in real time
[12:40] <minty_> nvidia-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[12:40] <nzk> Load average at 3 or 4 constantly
[12:40] <minty_> DEX DO I WANT THAT 1?
[12:40] <nzk> What can I do?
[12:40] <minty_> soz bout caps
[12:40] <DexterF> add those to the device section, write a composite section (google), install beryl and beryl-manager, that's about it
[12:40] <DexterF> minty_: dont yell at me
[12:40] <minty_> :(
[12:40] <nzk> minty_, From the 4 seconds I've been here, you sound no older than 11.
[12:41] <DexterF> nzk: disks on DMA?
[12:41] <nzk> DexterF, ?
[12:41] <NickPresta> @hendaus: http://tinyurl.com/2kn8dw Use that wiki.
[12:41] <DexterF> nzk: well, *should* the machine play media alright?
[12:41] <nzk> Yes
[12:41] <nzk> This time last year it was playing better than Windows
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> nzk: whats the top program in "alt+esc"
[12:41] <nzk> with every concurrent reformat it gets slower and slower
[12:41] <hendaus> NickPresta: i have the intructions but i need someone help me with it
[12:42] <NickPresta> @hendaus: What exactly do you need help with then?
[12:42] <nzk> nosrednaekim, I looked at top, it gave no help. Theres nothing out of the ordinary
[12:42] <DexterF> nzk: check sudo hdparm /dev/hda (or /dev/sda or whatever your main disk is)
[12:43] <nzk> And?
[12:43] <DexterF> see if DMA is on
[12:43] <hendaus> NickPresta:  come here--> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable
[12:43] <clayg> if you just got a new laptop what dist would you feel comfortable installing? is fiesty stable enough to give it a whirl? Last time I used it, dapper was better than edgy even though edgy was "stable" at the time
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> clayg: fiesty should be fine
[12:44] <minty_>             HOW OLD ARE YOU NZK?
[12:44] <NickPresta> @hendaus: You don't need to download the JRE from Java.com and such. You can use your package manager. Do you have any specific reason for using Sun's version over the version in the repo?
[12:44] <DexterF> nzk:  using_dma    =  1 (on) is the line. if not, well, no clue how to do it on kub.... somewhere in /etc/init.d I guess
[12:44] <minty_> sorry about caps
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> clayg: what laptop model?
[12:44] <minty_> n so what if i am
[12:44] <nzk> DexterF, it has that line
[12:44] <nzk> minty_, old enough not to have a finger glued to the Caps Lock.
[12:44] <hendaus> NickPresta:  mozilla firefox if i open a site it says click to install plugin, and then i got to this site
[12:44] <DexterF> nzk: hm. more hard disks than those?
[12:45] <DexterF> *this
[12:45] <nzk> only one
[12:45] <clayg> hp dv6000t, only reason I asked if when I was using it alot as main os dapper "worked better" than edgy, even though edgy was "Stable" at the time.  you were just better off using dapper
[12:45] <minty_> my password is in caps lol
[12:46] <clayg> wondering if there is a dist not as new that is better, it wasn't a huge difference i think it came down to one thing not working vanilla and i said "fk it" and went back to dapper
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> clayg: I just read a report about a guy getting that working perfectly.. everythin
[12:46] <hendaus> NickPresta:  i mean then i got to the plugins site
[12:46] <clayg> on fiesty?
[12:46] <clayg> awsome
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> clayg: dappers too old not.
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> *now
[12:46] <NickPresta> @hendaus: You use your package manager (Adept) to install plugins and such. You don't need to download them from anywhere.
[12:46] <clayg> yeah but at the time it was the best for me, but could never get wow to work on it
[12:46] <nzk> minty_, your constant use of "AOL speak" also gives you away
[12:47] <DexterF> nzk: anyway, check top and who draws the most juice, I gotta run for now
[12:47] <nzk> Firefox
[12:47] <nzk> not even 30%
[12:47] <hendaus> NickPresta:  i installed from adept sun java 5 , and 2 p;ugins
[12:47] <clayg> how hard is it to get wow working and running nicely now?
[12:47] <SilentDis> !nvidia
[12:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <nosrednaekim> clayg: http://www.venturecake.com/?p=1
[12:47] <NickPresta> @hendaus: Then what do you need help with?
[12:48] <hendaus> NickPresta:  i got to the plugin java website, and i gave u the instruction site
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> clayg: about as easy as installing windows..;)
[12:49] <hendaus> NickPresta:  i need to continue with me, coz on terminal i am now done at: root@hendaus:/usr/lib#
[12:49] <minty_> AOL speak?
[12:49] <NickPresta> @hendaus: I'm aware that you gave me the instructions to installing the JRE from Sun's website. I'm telling you that you don't need to do that - you can use the repo's version unless you have a specific reason not to.
[12:49] <minty_> i.e short hand
[12:50] <nzk> minty_, yes, AOL speak, 'Text Speak', whatever you youngsters call it
[12:50] <minty_> youngster?>?? how old ru
[12:50] <MinceR> young whippersnappers ;)
[12:50] <minty_> haha
[12:50] <ramamadhu> haha
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> lol
[12:50] <hendaus> NickPresta:  did u read the instruction
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> wippersnapper speak
[12:50] <SilentDis> hello.  how do I get to the "Restricted Devices Manager" in Kubuntu 7.04?  trying to get my nvidia card setup.
[12:50] <nosrednaekim> ^^
[12:51] <clayg> shweety nosrednaekim
[12:51] <ramamadhu> hey guys anyone know about sound problem in ubuntu7.04
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> SilentDis: co into adept and install restricted manager
[12:51] <NickPresta> @hendaus: To install the mozilla plugin, use your package manager
[12:51] <ramamadhu> hey guys anyone know about sound problem in ubuntu7.04
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> ramamadhu: whats your hardware?
[12:51] <minty_> dester http://pastebin.ca/538059
[12:51] <minty_> look at that
[12:52] <ramamadhu> its an p3
[12:52] <SilentDis> nosrednaekim: thanks :)
[12:52] <clayg> er sweet rather, and thanks for the link, this isn't the same model but i'd bet dollars to donuts the same stuff is used inside for the most part with the exception of cpu which isn't anything special that i have, i.e. souldn t be a problem, this studio looks kinda cool, i wanna make a video of me destroying people, and thrashing epic mbos
[12:52] <ramamadhu> is that what u r asking?
[12:52] <hendaus> NickPresta:  cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins <-- u see this for mozilla plugins
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> clayg: oh you got a AMD one?
[12:52] <hendaus> NickPresta:  i install from packages and doesnot work
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> ramamadhu: wow.. a a sound problem on a P3 MB?
[12:53] <clayg> no i mean i have the 6000 which is larger but im sure it will be very compat
[12:53] <NickPresta> What does not work specifically. There are many, many users who have successfully installed the java plugin for mozilla from the repo. What problems are you having?
[12:53] <SilentDis> nosrednaekim: i'm in adept right now, did a search for "restricted manager" (no quotes) and came up blank.  any idea on the package name?
[12:53] <clayg> or the same "group" of things are included in a sort of "this is what hp uses for the insides" crap
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> clayg: oh..lol
[12:53] <clayg> but if you are asking my class,  it's a mage
[12:53] <ramamadhu> i dint get you, can you please explain.thanks
[12:53] <clayg> frot specced with enough points in arcane for imp cs
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> SilentDis: restricted--manager maybe?
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> one dash.. sorry
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> ramamadhu: have you ever heard sound?
[12:54] <SilentDis> nosrednaekim: no worries, i'm used to using aptitude from a prompt anyway, adept doesn't ever seem to find what i'm looking for lol
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> lol
[12:54] <hendaus> NickPresta:  r u there
[12:54] <ramamadhu> yes, i have a problem in capture and recording as wellas in skype.but otherwise sound is good.thanks
[12:55] <NickPresta> @hendaus: I'm here - how did the package from the repo "not work"?
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> ramamadhu: ah.. ok. skype. so its really your line in or mic that you are having problems with?
[12:55] <hendaus> NickPresta: i dont know, but why u dont help me by the site
[12:55] <ramamadhu> yeh, itested my mic with windows its fine.
[12:56] <ramamadhu> so problem in linux
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> ramamadhu: did you mess around with all the kmix settings?
[12:56] <ramamadhu> yep did all those.
[12:56] <ramamadhu> mess
[12:57] <ramamadhu> but negative
[12:57] <BluesKaj> alsamixer too ?
[12:58] <ramamadhu> what to do now?
[12:58] <phil101> how do i turn on 3d desktop
[12:59] <nosrednaekim> phil101: did you get all the packages?
[01:00] <phil101> i dont know what i should be looking for
[01:00] <momo> where do i put tis command : # apt-get install  ??
[01:00] <ramamadhu> i have searched in google too but no result
[01:01] <phil101> apt-get install what?
[01:01] <momo> wine
[01:01] <phil101> i have wine install
[01:02] <momo> how can i install it ?
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> momo: on the command line.
[01:02] <phil101> i mean somethin like beryl
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> momo: did you get libxine-extracodecs
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> phil101: did you install beryl?
[01:03] <momo> i got codecs , my MP3 files & AVI work
[01:03] <phil101> let me try
[01:03] <ramamadhu> are u thr
[01:03] <momo> but i don't know if these are libxine-extracodec or not
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> momo: ok.
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> momo: you can also install wine from synaptic
[01:04] <momo> what's synaptic ?
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> momo: thats the package manager. It graphically installs software
[01:05] <BluesKaj> adept too
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> run the command "sudo synaptic" in the command line
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj:  hes actually on ubuntu
[01:05] <momo> how to run the command line ?
[01:06] <momo> i use french language
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> momo: I don't remember where it in ubuntu.
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> momo: you could go to the french channel
[01:06] <momo> how ?
[01:07] <momo> i dont see channels
[01:07] <dasnipa> !fr
[01:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:07] <momo> !fr
[01:07] <momo> thanx
[01:07] <nosrednaekim>  type this into where you would normally type messages in to send to us "ubuntu-fr"
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> sorry make that "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[01:08] <momo> all right
[01:08] <momo> thank you , i'm in the french channel
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> momo: of they can't answer your questions  come back ehre
[01:10] <momo> ok
[06:43] <Qb_Master> .
[06:44] <Darkkish> Hello? I just glued my foot to my moniter, can anyone help me?
[06:44] <crimsun> amputate.
[06:44] <crimsun> next question?
[06:44] <Qb_Master> rotfl
[06:44] <Qb_Master> haha okay I'll explain the situation a bit :)
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[06:44] <Qb_Master> I just reinstalled Kubuntu (had 6.06, reinstalled fresh to 7.04)
[06:45] <Qb_Master> on 7.04 I can't get my belkin wireless NIC to work
[06:45] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: sorry, that's a hardware issue :P
[06:45] <Qb_Master> it shows up in the pci listing
[06:45] <Minataku> intelikey: Heh
[06:45] <Minataku> Fair enough XD
[06:45] <Qb_Master> but not in the network listing
[06:45] <Minataku> But like I said, sorry for being a bit of an ass ;3
[06:46] <Qb_Master> the only thing that shows up there is the wired ethernet which isn't what I'm using
[06:46] <Minataku> Qb_Master: Perhaps it's not properly supported?
[06:46] <Qb_Master> (it's a Belkin F5D5000, on M$ it uses rtl8180.sys, a RealTek driver)
[06:46] <Minataku> It could show up in lspci and be completely unusable
[06:46] <Qb_Master> it worked fine in 6.06
[06:46] <Minataku> Hm
[06:46] <intelikey> :)   and like i said don't worry about it.    i don't...
[06:46] <Qb_Master> I read a loooot of people have been having wireless nic problems in 7.04 on some forum
[06:46] <Minataku> incorrect: Heehee
[06:47] <dark|slyde> im new to everything that has to do with kubuntu or any other nix distro. i wanted to know where i can find information on accessing my external hdd (usb) on kubuntu. just installed it an hour ago
[06:47] <dwidmann> Qb_Master: worst comes to worst, you could just install the 6.06 kernel and see if it wants to work then
[06:47] <Minataku> Qb_Master: Perhaps there's an open bug, I'm not sure
[06:47] <Minataku> dark|slyde: Plug it in.
[06:47] <dark|slyde> how do i access the files?
[06:47] <terrestre> check the folder
[06:47] <Minataku> If you're using KDE, it should have put an icon on the desktop
[06:47] <terrestre> qq dice /media
[06:47] <Qb_Master> well is there maybe a generic wireless driver that would work?
[06:48] <intelikey> oh am i lagging again....   crap.
[06:48] <Minataku> Double-click it (or whatever action you specified for it to use)
[06:48] <Qb_Master> (other than ndiswrapper)
[06:48] <dark|slyde> ok, ill try that
[06:48] <Minataku> Qb_Master: What did it work with in 6.XX?
[06:48] <Minataku> Did it need ndiswrapper there?
[06:48] <intelikey> ok back in a while.
[06:48] <Small_Mac> k since there's most likely no kubuntu-ubuntu channel, i'll ask here: which should i use, kubuntu or ubuntu, narrowing down question: which runs faster for everyday task (with beryl running) i stuck with kubuntu on my last install, but it seemed slow
[06:48] <Qb_Master> it worked right "out of the box"
[06:48] <Minataku> Small_Mac: Dangerous question. Not answering.
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> Qb_Master: wireless cards are still do different from each other for a generic driver to work
[06:49] <Small_Mac> and i had the impression that kde is slower than gnome.. is that true
[06:49] <Qb_Master> hmm
[06:49] <Minataku> Small_Mac: Also too dangerous.
[06:49] <Minataku> Use what you like
[06:49] <Small_Mac> ...
[06:49] <Minataku> You can always have both on one system
[06:49] <Minataku> Test out both and settle with the one you think is best
[06:49] <Small_Mac> but i just want one linux =( is it because stubborn people might join in the discussino and start nonsense
[06:50] <Minataku> It is one Linux
[06:50] <Qb_Master> Small_Mac: do you like macs or windows better?
[06:50] <Qb_Master> lol
[06:50] <Small_Mac> windows
[06:50] <Minataku> You can have multiple DE/WMs on one Linux installation
[06:50] <Qb_Master> then Kubuntu
[06:50] <Qb_Master> Ubuntu is more like mac in terms of the look/feel
[06:50] <Minataku> On my walkabout laptop I have about 10 installed
[06:50] <Minataku> Despite using one
[06:51] <Small_Mac> thx Qb_Master, yeah see that was much more insightful, but ur concerns are understable as well i guess =)
[06:51] <Qb_Master> :)
[06:51] <Small_Mac> understandable*
[06:51] <darkslyde> it told me new media, but nothing happened when i selected open in new window
[06:51] <Minataku> Small_Mac: Such questions tend to cause wars
[06:51] <Minataku> With groupies for either side attacking the other
[06:52] <Qb_Master> yeah I'm considering going back to 6.06
[06:52] <Small_Mac> yeah those people prolly got no life to start with
[06:52] <Minataku> Qb_Master: There's no doubt a way to fix it
[06:52] <Minataku> Small_Mac: Now, now
[06:52] <Small_Mac> i'm neutral still...just saying
[06:52] <Minataku> Some people are passionate about things
[06:52] <Qb_Master> yah
[06:52] <Minataku> Just because someone feels it's right to stand up for their favorite doesn't mean they have no life
[06:53] <Qb_Master> if I could connect here while I was on it, I maybe could get some help with it lol
[06:53] <dwidmann> Minataku: but in such a biased channel, that war would be pretty one sided ;)
[06:53] <Small_Mac> Minataku i'm all for standing up for their favorite, but it seems that the masses are just following blindly and taking a side to pretend like they know anythig
[06:53] <Minataku> Qb_Master: I'm wondering if someone who built the kernel didn't drop the ball and leave out some important drivers
[06:53] <darkslyde> after i plugged the usb hdd, it told me about it, but nothing happened when i selected open in new window and clicked ok
[06:54] <Minataku> Small_Mac: You'd have to be pretty stupid to not know if you like one thing over another because of personal preference
[06:54] <Small_Mac> anyway, is the question: what's the difference between kde and gnome safer? if so, how are they different, maybe i'll just ! the terms
[06:54] <Small_Mac> !kde
[06:54] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[06:54] <Small_Mac> !gnome
[06:54] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[06:54] <Small_Mac> wow that was informative hehe
[06:54] <Minataku> The bot is kinda stupid
[06:54] <Qb_Master> hmm
[06:54] <Qb_Master> Minataku: that's possible
[06:55] <Minataku> It's functionality and informative capabilities are slowly declining
[06:55] <dthacker> the bot is politically correct
[06:55] <Small_Mac> !dance
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Minataku> Not that it's information bank was all too useful in the first place
[06:55] <Qb_Master> I'm not 100% noobish when it comes to linux but I don't know much about installing drivers yet lol
[06:55] <Qb_Master> always found it complicated to do
[06:55] <Minataku> dthacker: There's a difference between political correctness and completely useless
[06:56] <Small_Mac> amen lol
[06:56] <Small_Mac> i can't believe i said amen
[06:56] <Small_Mac> but that's what came to mind
[06:56] <Minataku> Qb_Master: I'm wondering if the module is there and not just inserted or what
[06:56] <dwidmann> Qb_Master: you probably find it complicated to do because it is complicated to do. Such is often the case :O
[06:56] <Qb_Master> hehe
[06:56] <terrestre> how i can know my ubuntu release? i forget the command
[06:56] <Qb_Master> so how do I go about diagnosing how to do this then?
[06:56] <Small_Mac> uname -r
[06:56] <Qb_Master> or do I just wait?
[06:56] <Minataku> Qb_Master: Check inside /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/drivers/
[06:56] <Minataku> For a realtek-looking one
[06:56] <Small_Mac> terrestre uname -r
[06:57] <dthacker> maybe there is, but I'm not here to argue, I'm here to learn
[06:57] <terrestre> thats the kernel version
[06:57] <Minataku> Scratch
[06:57] <Small_Mac> o
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> or just lsmod | grep realtek
[06:57] <Small_Mac> nvm then that was the only one i know
[06:57] <Minataku> Qb_Master: Check inside /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/kernel/net/
[06:57] <terrestre> but the ubuntu release
[06:57] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Won't work
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Small_Mac: You can turn off pretty stuff for KDE to make it run faster i guess
[06:58] <Minataku> We're looking for a present but uninserted module
[06:58] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah, that's just loaded ones, heh....
[06:58] <Qb_Master> k
[06:58] <Qb_Master> well
[06:58] <Qb_Master> I'll have to get as much instruction as possible, then reboot
[06:58] <Minataku> Slow down
[06:58] <dwidmann> DaSkreech: heck, if you wanted to, you could even use something like fluxbox as your kde wm :)
[06:58] <Minataku> Qb_Master: Go look in /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/kernel/net/
[06:58] <Qb_Master> I'm currently in Xp - this comp is dualbooted
[06:58] <Minataku> Oh
[06:58] <Small_Mac> DaSkreech cool, could u give me a quick example of what to turn off, if u can easily recall, just for reference
[06:59] <Darkkish> >_> Doh
[06:59] <Minataku> In that case
[06:59] <Small_Mac> what's wm btw
[06:59] <Minataku> Someone with 7.0whatever help me here
[06:59] <Minataku> Look in there for realtek drivers >.<
[06:59] <Small_Mac> minataku said something about multiple wm in one linux, was kinda lost so i let that go earlier =)
[06:59] <Minataku> I use Gentoo and compile my kernels to have only what they need and very few modules for things I don't use often
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Small_Mac: bunch anti-aliasing stuff etc
[06:59] <Minataku> So I don't know what's in there
[07:00] <DaSkreech>  Small_Mac if I knew the specs on your machine it would be easier to decide
[07:00] <Minataku> WM is Window Manager
[07:00] <darkslyde> i really cant find my external dd
[07:00] <darkslyde> hdd
[07:00] <Minataku> darkslyde: Open a terminal and check in /media
[07:00] <dwidmann> Small_Mac: run a program called kpersonalizer
[07:00] <dwidmann> It has lots of options regarding it
[07:01] <Minataku> I'm wondering if KDE goofed and decided not to bother with it
[07:01] <darkslyde> okkkkk
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> darkslyde: try sudo fdisk -l in a console and look for something like the external hdd
[07:01] <Minataku> Or even better, let's see if they were automounted
[07:01] <Minataku> No, no, no
[07:01] <Minataku> Type "mount"
[07:01] <Minataku> And pastebin it
[07:03] <darkslyde> it says /dev/sda1
[07:03] <Qb_Master> okay well
[07:03] <darkslyde> ntfs
[07:03] <Qb_Master> I'm going to go try that
[07:03] <Minataku> darkslyde: That sounds like it
[07:03] <Minataku> Paste the whole line for me
[07:03] <Qb_Master> I guess I could cnxn here from the other computer
[07:03] <Minataku> Right here
[07:03] <Qb_Master> but it's in the other room
[07:03] <Minataku> Just that one
[07:04] <Qb_Master> so I'll have to do a lot of walking :P
[07:04] <Darkkish> lol
[07:04] <Small_Mac> DaSkreech ah srry, accidentally went afk, my specs are 1gb ram 3ghz cpu 120gb harddrive
[07:04] <Minataku> Qb_Master: Well, look in there for realtek drivers
[07:04] <Qb_Master> okay
[07:04] <Qb_Master> should I also do a search?
[07:04] <Minataku> And do "sudo modprobe nameofdriver"
[07:04] <Minataku> Leave off the .ko
[07:04] <darkslyde> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[07:04] <darkslyde> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[07:04] <darkslyde> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:04] <darkslyde>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:04] <darkslyde> /dev/sda1               1       30401   244196001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:04] <Qb_Master> k
[07:04] <Minataku> All the files in there will have .ko on the end
[07:04] <Small_Mac> DaSkreech i guess i'm really asking for whether there is a gui for turning features on or off in kde (kubuntu feisty)
[07:05] <darkslyde> i cant even get into it
[07:05] <DaSkreech> kpersonalizer
[07:05] <Minataku> darkslyde: No, I wanted the output of "mount"
[07:05] <Qb_Master> U gotta write this down lol
[07:05] <Minataku> Forget about fdisk
[07:05] <Small_Mac> DaSkreech cool thx alot
[07:05] <darkslyde> its not on mount
[07:05] <Small_Mac> hmm not sure where to ask this: right after i press enter on login screen, there's a quick flash of screen before things resume normal, i think that might be bad for my monitor, is there some way to fix this, (similar problem, during shut down, the screen flashes and i see concentrated green grid lines as if i can see the inside of the computer, freaky lol) anyway i can fix that
[07:05] <Minataku> Then it's not mounted
[07:05] <DaSkreech> Small_Mac: sure. If you want to know anything else just ask here :)
[07:05] <darkslyde> i see
[07:06] <Small_Mac> cool =)
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Small_Mac: It's loading the resolution that your user has saved
[07:06] <Minataku> darkslyde: Try this. "sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Small_Mac: no big deal. Do you have an LCD ?
[07:06] <Small_Mac> DaSkreech ic, yeah it's a laptop
[07:06] <Minataku> Tell me what it says, if it went okay it should say nothing
[07:07] <Qb_Master> *I
[07:07] <Qb_Master> not you
[07:07] <Qb_Master> lol
[07:07] <Small_Mac> i think i get the same thing in windows during game start up
[07:07] <Minataku> Keep in mind this will probably only give you read-only access to it, but we're trying to get this figured out
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Small_Mac: yup same concept
[07:07] <Minataku> Small_Mac: Ignore it.
[07:07] <Minataku> It's nothing
[07:07] <darkslyde> nothing
[07:08] <darkslyde> so i guess it went ok
[07:08] <Minataku> Just VRAM garbage as it switches resolutions
[07:08] <Minataku> darkslyde: Type "ls /mnt/sda1"
[07:08] <Minataku> You should see the familiar Windows cruft
[07:08] <darkslyde> permission denied
[07:08] <Minataku> Haha, damn
[07:08] <darkslyde> did sudo and it worked
[07:09] <Minataku> Okay, so there's nothing wrong with the system or drives or anything
[07:09] <Noldoaran> Would someone be willing to help me with a KDE control panel problem??
[07:09] <Minataku> What you probably want now is this
[07:09] <Minataku> !ntfs
[07:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:09] <Minataku> Oh, and "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
[07:09] <Small_Mac> DaSkreech is thee someway to make the resolution transition a little smoother? like telling it to not find out what user has saved, but just use a default, would that help, it's a minor annoyance, so i'm not that hung up on finding a solution
[07:09] <Tired_> Hi.  I'm having a weird thing with Samba.  When I move a file to a mounted Samba share, the operation completes, but it gives me this error about insufficient permissions.
[07:09] <Minataku> Our testing is complete, you can unmount it and do it the perscribed way now
[07:09] <darkslyde> thanks
[07:09] <Minataku> No problem
[07:10] <Minataku> Do the umount before looking at !ntfs ;3
[07:10] <Qb_Master> okay
[07:10] <darkslyde> i did the umount
[07:10] <Qb_Master> I'm going now
[07:10] <darkslyde> thanks
[07:10] <Qb_Master> I'll be back in a few min's
[07:10] <Minataku> darkslyde: No problem
[07:11] <Qb_Master> thanks :)
[07:11] <Minataku> Now that we know it works you can do what I should have told you to do in the first place but was too tired to remember XD
[07:11] <darkslyde> im installing kubuntu on my latop as well.. trying to switch over
[07:11] <Minataku> Which is the info at !ntfs
[07:11] <darkslyde> heh
[07:11] <Minataku> darkslyde: Good! Let me guess, one look at the Vista Windows offered you and that was it ;3
[07:12] <Minataku> *"Vista"
[07:12] <Minataku> Since it's a bad pun
[07:12] <Minataku> XD
[07:12] <Tired_> How would I have insufficient permission to do something, if it finishes successfully?
[07:12] <Minataku> Tired_: That's like when something errors but forgets to set errno
[07:12] <Small_Mac> is feisty the first kubuntu distribution that can works well with ntfs?
[07:12] <Minataku> In which case you get the infamous "Error: No error"
[07:13] <Minataku> XD
[07:13] <Small_Mac> like recognize it and convert it
[07:13] <darkslyde> got vista on my other pc
[07:13] <yknott> Tired_: i usually get that too through konqueror
[07:13] <Minataku> Small_Mac: The kernel is still touchy on NTFS write ops
[07:13] <darkslyde> but wanted to learn something new
[07:13] <Minataku> Read is fine
[07:13] <Small_Mac> o, but it works
[07:13] <Small_Mac> ?
[07:13] <Minataku> Small_Mac: Works, but not safely
[07:13] <Small_Mac> ic
[07:13] <Minataku> That's what things like ntfs-3g is for
[07:13] <darkslyde> and vista wont run on my laptop so ubuntu was the way to go
[07:13] <Small_Mac> hmm cool
[07:13] <Minataku> Which has much safer write capability
[07:14] <Tired_> yknott -> Do you know how to make it go away?  I want to move thousands of files, and I'd rather not have to click Ok for every one...
[07:14] <Minataku> Still not perfect
[07:14] <Minataku> But then Windows likes to fudge all over NTFS too
[07:14] <darkslyde> true
[07:14] <Minataku> Speaking of fudge... nevermind, I gotta go, probably will go to sleep after so night, all
[07:14] <Minataku> XD
[07:15] <Small_Mac> so i have a laptop all of which is used for windows xp, what should i do to get kubuntu on their without erasing any existing windows files? i searched google b4, a little confused with parition, used boot magic cuz it came with partition magic, then took 3 hours deleting that crap cuz it made one of my drives invisible =(
[07:15] <dwidmann> Tired_: is it actually moving them, or giving you permission denied messages? If the latter, ctr+c it and set the permissions and such and then re-run the move
[07:15] <yknott> Tired_: most of the time i see that when i make too many connections to the samba (windows) share or when i browse the admin shares (partition letter $)
[07:15] <Tired_> It completes the move, deletes the original file, then says "Could not change permissions for /mnt/sharename/filename"
[07:16] <yknott> Minataku: that may be, but i would rather win2000 ran atop of ntfs than fat16 or fat32
[07:16] <NotFaint> Hello all.
[07:16] <Tired_> The operation completes perfectly, except for the error
[07:16] <darkslyde> that makes no sense
[07:17] <Tired_> Heck, if I could tell it "I don't give a fig about that error", I'd be Ok.
[07:17] <darkslyde> same here
[07:18] <dwidmann> tired_: something I noticed before, when transferring files over a network with samba, it actually seems a lot faster to tar all of the files first, then send over the tarball
[07:18] <NotFaint> Let's say I added a repository for some non-free software that is on it, and apt found all kinds of updates, but some of those updates broke things. Let's say I have no idea what exactly broke what, though, and I want to get rid of everything I got from that repository, like maybe removing all those packages and getting them to reinstall. How do I go about that without knowing exactly what I need to remove?
[07:18] <Tired_> That would require a lot more disk space...I need to move files for that reason  :/
[07:19] <pingveno> I'm having trouble getting aiff files to work in Amarok. It says that there is "No suitable dmux plugin." I dug through its dependencies and found that ffmpeg outputs "Error while parsing header" on aiff files.
[07:19] <darkslyde> my ultimate goal is to run lmce
[07:19] <dwidmann> Tired_: how about tar --remove-files, that way it removes them after it adds them to the tarball
[07:20] <Tired_> I don't think I'd trust that.
[07:20] <Tired_> Besides, the error is on the receiving end
[07:23] <Qb_Master> k there's no files related to realtek or belkin in those folders
[07:23] <Qb_Master> (i'm on another computer now, so I can just walk back and forth)
[07:23] <Qb_Master> what now?
[07:24] <darkslyde> Qb_Master: are u looking for a belkin wireless 700f?
[07:24] <Qb_Master> I think so
[07:24] <darkslyde> i have the same one.. from walmart
[07:24] <Qb_Master> I have a belkin wireless F5D5000
[07:25] <darkslyde> wont let me support it
[07:25] <Qb_Master> ya 6.06 supported it
[07:25] <Qb_Master> 7.04 doesn't seem to have a driver for it
[07:25] <darkslyde> feisty got u?
[07:25] <Qb_Master> yah
[07:25] <darkslyde> im kinda scared for my laptop
[07:25] <Qb_Master> so I'm here trying to find out how to get one or get it to work with what I have already lol
[07:25] <darkslyde> lol
[07:26] <darkslyde> roll back to eft?
[07:26] <Qb_Master> thought about it but I want to use fiesty
[07:26] <Qb_Master> maybe if I can get the driver (whatever one that was) from 6.06...
[07:26] <darkslyde> im using feisty so i can get lmce 1.1b2
[07:27] <darkslyde> true that
[07:27] <Qb_Master> Darkkish: pm?
[07:27] <darkslyde> compatibility issues with 7.04 maybe no more driver?
[07:28] <Qb_Master> ya I couldn't locate the driver
[07:28] <Darkkish> i can't pm
[07:28] <Darkkish> i lost my password.
[07:28] <Qb_Master> lol can you receive notices?
[07:29] <Darkkish> Tired_ it's nothing important :p
[07:29] <Darkkish> it's nopt any linux tips or anything
[07:29] <Qb_Master> did you receive my notice just now?
[07:29] <Tired_> Darn.  ;)
[07:29] <Darkkish> yeah did you get mine?
[07:29] <Qb_Master> no
[07:29] <Qb_Master> lol
[07:29] <Darkkish> damnit.
[07:29] <Qb_Master> k 1 min
[07:29] <goban> hi i did sudo apt-get install spe, but i get this: You need to install at least wxPython v2.5.4.1 to run SPE.Get it from http://www.wxpython.org
[07:29] <Darkkish> I need to recover my password
[07:29] <Qb_Master> I'll meebo
[07:31] <Tired_> Aargh!
[07:31] <Tired_> This is so frustrating...like being beaten to death with feathers.
[07:32] <Qb_Master> Minataku: you there?
[07:35] <dwidmann> Tired_: I wonder if the using the --force option would suppress the errors or not
[07:35] <Tired_> --force option?
[07:35] <dwidmann> for mv, yes
[07:36] <Hobbsee> what kind of errors?
[07:36] <Tired_> That sounds like a console options...not sure how I'd do that for drag and drop in Konq
[07:36] <_Shade_> hi there
[07:36] <dwidmann> Tired_: erm, you've got a point there
[07:36] <Tired_> I'm sure there's a way, but I bet it involves editing the source for KDE, which is way beyond me
[07:36] <_Shade_> how can i connect to a remote desktop on my kubuntu machine using a windows computer?
[07:37] <dwidmann> Tired_: could be worth doing it in the console though, if it means not being beaten to death with error popups or the like
[07:37] <Qb_Master> so anybody else have any ideas?
[07:37] <Qb_Master> why I can't get a Belkin F5D5000 Wireless Nic to work in Kubuntu 7.04, when it works fine in 6.06?
[07:38] <Qb_Master> (works fine as in right out of the box)
[07:38] <tahsin> how do i install x11 mouse themses ?
[07:40] <Qb_Master> hm, well I guess I'll just have to use a forum
[07:40] <Qb_Master> :( means I can't use Linux tonight
[07:40] <dwidmann> tahsin: there's some directory or another that you put them in, but I forget which one it is, why not try installing them through the kcontrol module for cursors?
[07:41] <dwidmann> Qb_Master: why not try installing dapper's kernel in feisty?
[07:42] <tahsin> dwidmann: i cant locate cursor on kcontrol
[07:42] <dwidmann> tahsin, come to think of it, it might be under peripherals -> mouse
[07:42] <dwidmann> yup, it is
[07:43] <tahsin> dwidmann: yup found it let me try
[07:43] <Jucato> tahsin: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse
[07:43] <Jucato> Cursor Theme tab
[07:43] <tahsin> found it !
[07:44] <Qb_Master> dapper's kernel?
[07:44] <Qb_Master> oh
[07:44] <Qb_Master> yeah umm how?
[07:44] <Qb_Master> lol
[07:44] <Darkkish> wouldn't that be the same as rolling back?
[07:44] <Qb_Master> can I have both running at the same time?
[07:45] <dwidmann> Darkkish: no, seperate image names, they can be installed in parallel
[07:45] <dwidmann> Qb_Master: you can have them both installed, but you can only run one kernel at a time (if you disclude things like vmware)
[07:45] <Qb_Master> so then one kernel would be truly 7.04, the other would be 6.06 with internet?
[07:45] <Qb_Master> *networking
[07:46] <Minataku> Sorry, I have to head to sleep now, I have class tomorrow morning and it's late
[07:47] <Qb_Master> aww :(
[07:47] <Minataku> Qb_Master: I'm out of ideas anyway, though, sorry that didn't work
[07:47] <Qb_Master> was hoping you could help me find a driver lol
[07:47] <Qb_Master> k well
[07:47] <Qb_Master> thanks for helping
[07:47] <Small_Mac> right now i have kubuntu installed on a logical drive, if i boot into windows and reformat that drive cuz i wanna get rid of kubuntu edgy, would i still be able to start windosw normally, because right now, due to precesnce of kubuntu, there's the black screen that allows me to choose which os to boot into
[07:47] <dwidmann> Qb_Master: youc an find the debs here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/
[07:47] <Minataku> You could compile your own Feisty kernel too
[07:48] <Qb_Master> lol hmm
[07:48] <Minataku> Which would be a far better idea
[07:48] <Qb_Master> wow, we're talking pretty complicated though now
[07:48] <Minataku> Not really
[07:48] <dwidmann> Minataku: it would also be far more complicated and far more work
[07:48] <Qb_Master> I don't have the slightest clue how to do that
[07:48] <Qb_Master> actually, either
[07:48] <Qb_Master> lo
[07:48] <dwidmann> also leaves a lot more room for things to go wrong
[07:48] <Small_Mac> how do i uninstall kubuntu
[07:48] <Minataku> Qb_Master: You could also track down the ass that screwed up and beat him/her up
[07:48] <Qb_Master> haha
[07:49] <dwidmann> Minataku: now we're talking :D
[07:49] <Minataku> Heehee
[07:49] <Qb_Master> yaa!!
[07:49] <Qb_Master> lmao\
[07:49] <Qb_Master> well I'm hoping that maybe they'll update it on the site :P
[07:49] <Qb_Master> who can I actually talk to about that if I believe it's an actual glitch?
[07:49] <Minataku> File a bug if one doesn't already exist
[07:50] <Qb_Master> where at?
[07:50] <dwidmann> http://launchpad.net
[07:50] <Minataku> I'd say groups of missing drivers is a pretty bad bug
[07:50] <Qb_Master> haha yah
[07:50] <Minataku> Especially ones for fairly common chipsets
[07:50] <Qb_Master> yeah this card can be bought at walmart from what I heard
[07:50] <Qb_Master> so it should have support
[07:50] <Qb_Master> lol
[07:50] <Minataku> Especially since it HAD support
[07:50] <Minataku> Really just sounds to me like some boob dropped the ball
[07:50] <Qb_Master> lmao
[07:51] <Minataku> No offense if that boob happens to be in here, of course
[07:51] <startswithz> I need help with partitioning on my install
[07:51] <Small_Mac> can i fix mbr without windows cd?
[07:51] <Qb_Master> lmao
[07:51] <duck_> does anyone know a good web development program i can use with Kubuntu?
[07:51] <Minataku> Anyway, I gotta go, I have to wake up at 6AM and it's currently 2AM XD
[07:51] <Minataku> Good luck with your problem, Qb_Master
[07:51] <Minataku> Night, all
[07:52] <startswithz> I am trying to set up Kubuntu 7.04  and I'd like to have my root system at sda1 and my home folder at sda3.  how should I set that up?
[07:52] <dwidmann> night Minataku, same time here so I'd best go to sleep too
[07:52] <Qb_Master> thanks :)
[07:52] <Qb_Master> nite
[07:52] <Qb_Master> okay thanks as well dwidmann :)
[07:52] <Qb_Master> nite
[07:52] <dwidmann> throw my whole routine off if I stay up this late as it is ... seeing as I have to be up at 3am on Fri-Sun
[07:53] <Qb_Master> I need sleep too - school tmrw
[07:53] <dwidmann> later
[07:53] <Qb_Master> l8r
[07:53] <duck_> does anyone know a good web development program i can use with Kubuntu?
[07:53] <Qb_Master> I'ma post the bug then go to bed I suppose
[07:54] <dwidmann> duck_: quanta+
[07:55] <dwidmann> for the whole deal install the "kdewebdev" package
[07:56] <startswithz> I just installed kubuntu and I cannot get it to boot
[07:56] <startswithz> if I put the live cd in and go to boot from harddrive it works
[07:56] <startswithz> but if not I can't get past grub
[07:56] <darkslyde> whats the command to see the list of processes?
[07:57] <Tired_> top ?
[07:58] <darkslyde> how bout to kill a process?
[07:58] <darkslyde> :D im kinda new to the whole linux thing
[07:58] <startswithz> to kill a process it's "kill"
[07:58] <startswithz> if I'm not mistaken
[07:59] <darkslyde> kill [pid]  ?
[07:59] <startswithz> I think so
[08:00] <startswithz> check the man
[08:00] <darkslyde> thanks
[08:00] <Tired_> get htop...it's nicer in the console
[08:01] <startswithz> I just reinstalled Kubuntu and I am getting "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition Press any key to continue...
[08:02] <Jack3> how do i know if my cpu is big or little endian
[08:04] <crimsun> Jack3: what CPU is it?
[08:04] <Jack3> ah nvm
[08:04] <Jack3> intel=little
[08:04] <crimsun> well, _most_ Intels are by default LE.
[08:05] <Small_Mac> hm how do i uninstall kubuntu so that window can still boot correctly
[08:05] <Qb_Master> grr
[08:05] <Small_Mac> my laptop came with no window cd
[08:05] <Qb_Master> launchpad is offline
[08:05] <Qb_Master> I can't post a bug
[08:05] <Qb_Master> lol that's messed up
[08:05] <crimsun> it's the weekly Tuesday maintenance window
[08:05] <Qb_Master> oh okay lol
[08:05] <crimsun> just try again in an hour
[08:06] <Qb_Master> it came back up lol
[08:06] <Tired_> It knew you wanted on.
[08:07] <Tired_> ;)
[08:07] <Qb_Master> haha ya
[08:07] <Tired_> how's that for service?  brought it back up just for you
[08:07] <Tired_> ;)
[08:08] <Qb_Master> yep lmao
[08:09] <dogatemycomputer> duck_: I use Bluefish but i'm told NVU is great too.
[08:17] <startswithz> can someone help me manually set up the partition table from the install menu for kubuntu 7.04?
[08:17] <Qb_Master> k nite guys :)
[08:17] <Qb_Master> thanks for helping
[08:18] <Admiral_Chicago> startswithz: waht do you need...
[08:19] <Admiral_Chicago> i mean specifically.
[08:19] <startswithz> I want to set it up so that my home folder is on a different partition
[08:19] <startswithz> root at sda1 and /home at sda3 with swap at sda5
[08:19] <startswithz> I tried it on my own but messed something up.  grub says the partition is unbootable
[08:20] <Admiral_Chicago> startswithz: in KDE, you can just lik to your home folder in system settins
[08:21] <Admiral_Chicago> do you want to use your settings from another partition ?
[08:21] <startswithz> what do you mean?
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> i guess my question is, what do you hope to accomplish my using the home dir of another partition
[08:23] <startswithz> well, in the event that I mess my system up again I would be able to reformat the sda1 partition without having to worry about losing all my files as they would be safely secured in the sda3
[08:23] <Tired_> having /home on another parition is handy so your users don't eat up all your system space, too
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> startswithz: just save your files on the mounted partion by edition your settings in System Settings
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, its under "about me"
[08:24] <startswithz> right but I need to get the system installed...
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see..
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i think
[08:27] <Tired_> startswithz: can you use a partitioning program froma live cd, like GParted, to set up your partitions, and then point everything to the right place when the install is finished?
[08:28] <startswithz> ok
[08:28] <Tired_> not the most elegant way, but it should work
[08:28] <startswithz> ok, wait I think I might have had a problem.  I had two harddrives set to master
[08:28] <startswithz> could that be what was messing grub up?
[08:29] <Tired_> if they were conflicting in the master/slave, the bios won't see them
[08:29] <Tired_> grub wouldn't even start
[08:30] <Tired_> i'm coming in halfway though...whats the problem?
[08:31] <startswithz> hmmm
[08:31] <startswithz> wait what if my old version of grub is on the sda and the new one is on hda
[08:31] <startswithz> if I try to boot from sda it will all be fucked right?
[08:32] <Tired_> grub shouldn't mess anything up, just from running it (I think)
[08:32] <Tired_> installing it can, but running it should be safe
[08:32] <Tired_> i'm told an old version of grub should be ablke to load new versions of kubuntu
[08:33] <startswithz> ok what is grub loader error 15?
[08:33] <Tired_> let me ask my buddy Google
[08:34] <Small_Mac> how much disk space does kubuntu itself take, just for reference
[08:35] <startswithz> about 2 gigs
[08:36] <startswithz> I set the partition for 4 so it would have plenty of room
[08:36] <Tired_> Error 15 is a mismatch between the kernel file name you've told grub to look for and the actual file name of the kernel image.
[08:36] <manuel_> Hey hi
[08:36] <Tired_> You need to change the filename to the right one.
[08:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone
[08:37] <startswithz> ok how do I edit grub?
[08:37] <manuel_> Someone nows how can i get a good resolution?
[08:37] <manuel_> this is my first time with the kubunto
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> startswithz: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:37] <manuel_> kubuntu
[08:37] <MilhousePunkRock> manuel_: Resolution as in desktop/screen resolution?
[08:37] <startswithz> manuel if you have an nvidia card install the drivers and the interface for it
[08:38] <startswithz> you can set the resolution to whatever at that point.
[08:38] <Tired_> startswithz: there's a way to do it from the grub menu, but I don't recall how.
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> startswithz: That can be done with KControl too
[08:38] <manuel_> Yeap it's an Nvidia... ok i will try it... Thank you
[08:38] <MilhousePunkRock> startswithz: What are you trying to do with grub?
[08:38] <startswithz> milhousepunkrock its been my experience that the nvidia drivers give more resolution options
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> startswithz: Well, could be, don't use Kubuntu on the machine with the GeForce card...
[08:39] <startswithz> manuel_ automatix has an installer for the nvidia stuff along with a lot of other stuff
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> !automatix
[08:39] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> So much about automatix
[08:40] <Tired_> automatix didn't work for me, but the tutorial on the Beryl website for ubuntu did
[08:40] <startswithz> really?
[08:40] <startswithz> I knew automatix was too good to be true
[08:40] <kraut> moin
[08:41] <Tired_> this is why I need to get VMWare working...i could just open up a VM and I could figure out how to edit the grub conf from there, but now I'd have to reboot to do it
[08:41] <startswithz> a bit off topic but why is it that starburst and skittles commercials seem to be obsessed with outweirding each other?
[08:42] <Tired_> aren't they the same candy company?
[08:43] <Tired_> maybe its part of their 'platform experience'
[08:43] <Small_Mac> startswithz thx for pointing out the size of kubuntu, srry i was afk for a bit
[08:45] <startswithz> ok, so if I were to set up my partitions so that sda1 mounts as / and sda3 mounts as /home would that work? do I need to set a partition to be /boot?
[08:46] <Tired_> to be honest, I don't know much about the kubuntu partitioner in the install.  I'm used to having to set it all up myself
[08:46] <Tired_> and I did use a separate /boot partition
[08:46] <Tired_> but that's just me
[08:47] <startswithz> ok so the boot partition needs to be at the beginning right?
[08:47] <Tired_> I had it there on mine.  I dunno if it needs to be there
[08:48] <Tired_> i don't think it needs to, but it will make setting up grub easier
[08:48] <startswithz> the installer calls hda the master drive
[08:49] <startswithz> but I am trying to install to sda
[08:49] <startswithz> hmmm
[08:49] <startswithz> should i set hda to a slave via the jumpers?
[08:50] <startswithz> could that be effecting it?
[08:50] <Tired_> that shouldn't matter.  id the drive is showing, you don't need to change jumpers
[08:50] <Tired_> that's only for the motherboards benefit
[08:51] <Tired_> the OS doesn't care where the jumpers are, as long as the motherboard can see the drive
[08:52] <Tired_> but, I bet that's the problem...grub probably thinks your kernel is on hda
[08:52] <Tired_> so you need to tell it to look on sda
[08:52] <startswithz> ok
[08:52] <startswithz> how do I do that?
[08:53] <Tired_> hang on, I'll see what I can find for ya  :)
[08:54] <Tired_> http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_12.html#SEC37
[08:55] <startswithz> I removed the jumper and I am going to just reinstall.  I hadn't spent any time on the system yet
[08:56] <Tired_> if thats what you want, but I gotta say, thats sorta extreme
[08:57] <Tired_> and a reinstall may not help you if you're not entirely sure what caused the problem
[08:57] <Tired_> you might do it again by accident
[08:58] <Tired_> !grub
[08:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:58] <startswithz> hd0? what does that mean?
[08:58] <startswithz> should that be sd0?
[08:59] <Tired_> no, that's in grub-ese
[08:59] <intelikey> Kernel requires old lsmod, but couldn't run lsmod.modutils: No such file or directory
[09:00] <Tired_> how many drives do you have?
[09:00] <startswithz> two
[09:00] <startswithz> one sata
[09:00] <startswithz> one parallel
[09:00] <startswithz> err ide
[09:00] <startswithz> the ide has windows on it
[09:00] <Tired_> ok, change the hd0 to hd1
[09:00] <Tired_> leave the comma and after part
[09:01] <startswithz> why hd1?
[09:01] <Tired_> grub counts your drives...it sees your IDE as drive 0 and your other as drive 1
[09:01] <startswithz> really?
[09:01] <Tired_> yep
[09:01] <startswithz> so ide come before sata?
[09:02] <Tired_> i think it starts counting with the drive GRUB is on
[09:03] <startswithz> so hd1 will be my sata drive, and hd0 is my ide drive.  I'm sorry but I don't understand the logic.  can you explain?
[09:04] <Tired_> grub is installed on /hda.  grub supports all kinds of different drive types, so it has to use its own way of distinguishing.
[09:04] <Tired_> so it counts, starting with the drive it's installed on
[09:04] <intelikey> the count order is according to  the bios order.   0x80 is hd0   0x81 is hd1 ...
[09:05] <startswithz> wait but I am about to install from scratch
[09:05] <Tired_> counts in format (hdx,y) where x is the drive and y is the partition
[09:05] <intelikey> the count order is according to  the bios order.   0x80 is hd0   0x81 is hd1 ...
[09:05] <Tired_> ?  I thought we were rescuing an install
[09:05] <startswithz> like I said I hadn't done anything to it yet so I am just going to reinstall
[09:05] <Tired_> thank you, intelikey...i'm far from an expert
[09:06] <Tired_> oh, well, then pretty much everything I've told you will be no help, since you intend to blow it away
[09:06] <startswithz> sorry
[09:06] <Tired_> i thought we were trying to fix it
[09:06] <intelikey> thus if you reorder disks in the bios you will trip grub up severly    ^
[09:07] <startswithz> ok how do I figure out the disk order in bios?
[09:07] <Tired_> you can reorder disks in the bios?
[09:07] <intelikey> what ever boots is  0x80
[09:07] <intelikey> next one is  0x81
[09:08] <Tired_> oh, i see, changing the boot order
[09:08] <intelikey> tired can on most bios'
[09:08] <intelikey> yep.
[09:08] <jean> hi guys
[09:08] <intelikey> that's the "second" reason i don't like nor use grub
[09:08] <jean> need to install new dictionaries in OOo
[09:09] <Tired_> and the first?
[09:09] <jean> the wizard doesn't work
[09:09] <intelikey> it can't boot anything that bios can't read
[09:09] <startswithz> ok so it calls the hda "1st slave" and the sda "3rd master"
[09:09] <jean> i have downloaded some dicos
[09:09] <startswithz> in bios
[09:09] <jean> where should i copy the files?
[09:09] <intelikey> startswithz then the hda is 0x80  (hd0)
[09:10] <startswithz> ok, and if I am installing linux to the sda drive I should assign grub to hd1?
[09:10] <Tired_> i'm sorry jean, I don't know OO.o at all...maybe someone else does
[09:10] <Tired_> startswithz: are you planning to dual boot?
[09:10] <intelikey> jean  probably /var/lib/something.  but i caution you that playing around in /var  and  /lib     are both dangerous
[09:10] <jean> thx anyway Tired_
[09:11] <startswithz> yeah.  I'd like to be able to play WoW
[09:11] <jean> thx as well intelikey
[09:11] <Tired_> windows will probably have trouble booting if grub is on a different drive.  i don't think you can have two boot loaders
[09:12] <Tired_> and, yet again, I defer to someone who knows better
[09:12] <Tired_> :)
[09:12] <startswithz> ok so I should put grub on (hd0) and point the bios at hd0?
[09:14] <intelikey> startswithz where ever you point bios to boot that's where you will want a boot loader that can boot what ever you want to boot.      i know that's a little vague    but most installers are going to over write it anyway.
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> any idea why firefox steals focus from akregator when i open the complete story link in firefox
[09:15] <intelikey> startswithz if you are installing *buntu  then the installer will attempt to install grub file in /boot of the installation and an MBR on disk 0x80
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> firefox -remote "openURL(%u,new-tab)" is my option
[09:15] <Tired_> is Firefox set to take focus when a new tab is opened?
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Tired_: doesn't do it for my other programs..
[09:16] <intelikey> files ^
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Tired_: ah crap it was my configuration...
[09:17] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago yes.  cause you have it set too...  :)
[09:17] <Tired_> ;)  We won't tell anyone.
[09:17] <[ifroog] > Morning, Human Beings.
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab
[09:18] <intelikey> [ifroog] 
[09:18] <Tired_> ugh!  I thought Linux was supposed to protect me from viruses, but I still got the flu
[09:18] <[ifroog] > :)..
[09:19] <[ifroog] > Tired_, Well, Its still working on that.
[09:19] <intelikey> Tired_ no.  it's not the flu.   that's just a windows hangover.
[09:19] <Jucato> Tired_: apparently, your body ain't running Linux. time for an upgrade :)
[09:19] <Tired_> I'd hate to think of where I need to put the install CD.
[09:19] <Jucato> :D
[09:19] <[ifroog] > lol
[09:19] <Jucato> Tired_: or USB stick :P
[09:20] <[ifroog] > Or the lan wire. :P
[09:21] <[ifroog] > So will kde 4 be realeased with gutsy Gibbon ?
[09:21] <Jucato> no
[09:21] <Tired_> but, hey, at least a sick day isn't a total loss.  i learned how to network my door bell, so I can answer the door from anywhere in the world
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> hmmm lag...
[09:21] <[ifroog] > Darn..
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: nope wasn't my configurations.
[09:22] <intelikey> really, the next release is a monkey ?
[09:22] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago still doing it ?
[09:22] <Jucato> [ifroog] : KDE 4 is "scheduled" to be released on the same month as Gutsy. so that would definitely be no
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: yea.
[09:22] <[ifroog] > lol
[09:22] <Jucato> intelikey: yep
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: i'll check it out tomorrow, i need to eat
[09:22] <intelikey> all new meaning to the old "monkey C monkey..."
[09:23] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago bon apitite'
[09:23] <Jucato> monkey C monkey do...while; ?
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> is there a program i can run like top to see whats using my bandwidth?
[09:23] <[ifroog] > JohanSalim, ok
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see the problem..its firefox...
[09:23] <intelikey> Jucato not in #kubuntu     it's   "monkey C monkey get confused, ask stupid questions"
[09:24] <Jucato> monkey C monkey goes bye bye...
[09:24] <intelikey> computi-us say 'word is four letter word'
[09:25] <Tired_> oddly, so is 'four'
[09:25] <intelikey> think M$ word
[09:26] <Tired_> but people are eating...
[09:26] <intelikey> :)
[09:26] <[ifroog] > h
[09:26] <[ifroog] > ha
[09:28] <intelikey> you know that's a script.
[09:29] <intelikey> i didn't like the fish thing.  so i wrote my own.
[09:29] <[ifroog] > what fish thing ?
[09:29] <Tired_> slapping with a trout, I'd guess
[09:29] <AutoMatriX> fish belong in the water ;)
[09:29] <intelikey> yeah
[09:30] <Tired_> i thought that was an mirc thing
[09:31] <AutoMatriX> Does somebody know if (k)ubuntu can be dualboot installed with Mandriva ? if yes, how ?
[09:31] <Tired_> is there a 'does not need advanced CS degree to set up' DNS server package in the repos?
[09:31] <[ifroog] > Authority, simply tell the mandriva installer where to fing kubuntu..
[09:31] <[ifroog] > find*
[09:31] <intelikey> AutoMatriX absolutly
[09:32] <intelikey> any boot loader for linux
[09:32] <AutoMatriX> nice intelikey ;) and do you have the time to give me some explanations ?
[09:32] <intelikey> AutoMatriX a second entry in grub   a kernel line in lilo.conf ....   what loader you want ?
[09:33] <AutoMatriX> grub is on it, I think but grub will do ....
[09:33] <[ifroog] > Authority, choose grub, and copy the lines on the present kubuntu boot lines in the grub to it.
[09:33] <AutoMatriX> I'll find my way out, thank you so much ;)
[09:33] <intelikey> AutoMatriX do you want to bounce to another boot loader or do you want to load the kernel from the *buntu /boot  dir ?
[09:34] <intelikey> and by another  i mean the one mandriva already has   could be same flavor
[09:35] <AutoMatriX> intelikey: I'll check that out, now that I know it is possible, it should not be to hard to find som docs about it ;)
[09:38] <[ifroog] > AutoMatriX, yes, its possible.
[09:38] <[ifroog] > argh, miss read ..
[09:38] <AutoMatriX> tx folks, googling around will not do me any harm :D
[09:39] <Tired_> youll figure it out easy
[09:39] <Tired_> !grub
[09:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:39] <AutoMatriX> actually I do like that 'sonar' screensaver from ubuntu
[09:39] <intelikey> the second link there  ^
[09:40] <intelikey> mount /dev/hdc2 /media/
[09:40] <intelikey> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:40] <intelikey> i can't seem to see any reason that wont mount....   it's ext fs
[09:40] <intelikey> both ext2/3 are inserted   ide-disk is inserted....  what did i miss ?
[09:41] <intelikey> the device node and mountpoint are ok....
[09:41] <intelikey> ?
[09:41] <Tired_> did you try specifying the fs type?
[09:41] <AutoMatriX> this link could have save me a lot of time, and it will in the future, thanks folks
[09:41] <intelikey> well no...
[09:41] <intelikey> Tired_ do you think it will help ?
[09:42] <Tired_> lol, i dunno
[09:42] <intelikey> :)   well it's a missing module  but i don't know which one.
[09:43] <intelikey> for your benifit    mount /dev/hdc2 -t ext2 /media/
[09:43] <intelikey> mount: /dev/hdc2 is not a valid block device
[09:44] <Tired_> i think the cough medicine is starting to make me a bit loopy, so I should go lay down.  thanks for the help and chat  :)
[09:44] <[ifroog] > Tired_, Take care.
[09:47] <intelikey> oh! wait.   are the device nodes the same for 2.6 and 2.4 kernels ?
[09:49] <intelikey> well i just confirmed that the devicenodes are the same for 2.4 & 2.6   .....  i'm at a loss.
[09:54] <noiesmo> !kompmgr
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kompmgr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <noiesmo> is kompmgr part of kde 3.5.7?
[09:57] <Jucato> noiesmo: yes (again)
[10:05] <makuseru> how can i exreact a .7z?
[10:06] <Jucato> !info 7zip | makuseru
[10:06] <ubotu> makuseru: Package 7zip does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:06] <Jucato> bah.
[10:07] <makuseru> what package do i need?
[10:07] <makuseru> nvm Jucato
[10:07] <makuseru> found it
[10:07] <Jucato> ok :)
[10:08] <makuseru> have you noticed Cosmo___?
[10:08] <makuseru> earlier the people (me, coz_ and crdlb) in #beryl were wondering about him, hes been signing on and off repeadly for hours now
[10:20] <epimeth> goood morning people!
[10:20] <epimeth> !ftp
[10:20] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:22] <Boje> moin
[10:26] <makuseru> hwo can i find out my processor speed from a terminal?
[10:27] <Jucato> makuseru: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:27] <makuseru> thanks Jucato
[10:33] <Small_Mac> what program in windows can i use to burn kubuntu onto a blank cd, thx
[10:36] <trym> Small_Mac: infrarecorder
[10:36] <Jucato> Small_Mac: Nero, or the built in burner (Roxio I think)
[10:36] <trym> http://infrarecorder.sourceforge.net/
[10:36] <trym> its open source
[10:36] <trym> and free
[10:37] <trym> just as good as nero and roxio
[10:45] <epimeth> Jucato: kftpgrabber or kasablanca?
[10:45] <Jucato> konqueror :D
[10:46] <Jucato> my FTP needs are not too complicated
[10:46] <epimeth> I was dolphining, but there is something wrong with it...
[10:47] <epimeth> I figured it was just a slow ass-connection to the states... turns out its both that *and* the fact that dolphin and konqueror aren't actually built to be ftp clients
[10:49] <Jucato> most KDE ftp clients would probably just be reusing the ftp:/ or sftp:/ kioslaves... *shrugs*
[10:51] <helppc> witam
[10:52] <helppc> mam problem nie chodzi mi kubuntu
[10:52] <helppc> :)
[10:52] <helppc> a jestem z kubuntu
[10:52] <icf7> Jucato: sftp:// ? Do you mean ftps? And what's wrong with these kioslaves?
[10:53] <helppc> fuck
[10:53] <Jucato> icf7: no. I mean sftp:/ and there's nothing wrong with them
[10:53] <Jucato> helppc: English please
[10:53] <helppc> ok
[10:53] <helppc> you have a problem
[10:53] <Jucato> what language is that, btw?
[10:54] <helppc> polish
[10:54] <Jucato> !pl
[10:54] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:55] <jtmoney> hey guys, just installed the openssh-server package. where do i edit which hosts are restricted from connecting? i can ssh in from the localhost, but not another computer on the LAN
[10:56] <nuu> is sshd listening on all interfaces ?
[10:56] <jtmoney> nuu: i'd assume so, as i get a login/password prompt but receive "Access denied" when i try to login
[10:57] <nuu> using which user ?
[10:57] <jtmoney> not root
[10:57] <jtmoney> wait, i found something on google
[10:57] <jtmoney> i think i can figure it out
[10:59] <nuu> make sure you don't have any AllowUsers in your sshd config
[10:59] <nuu> or it may restrict remote logon
[10:59] <jtmoney> alright, got it working
[10:59] <epimeth> icf7: nothing is wrong with the slaves, they just aren't the quickest snails in the race
[10:59] <jtmoney> was using the wrong login :-X
[10:59] <nuu> aha k ;)
[10:59] <jtmoney> embarrassing haha
[10:59] <nuu> i've seen worse :)
[11:00] <epimeth> Jucato: I get the feeling that kftpgrabber doesn't use them... it seems to be written from scratch.  its just a gut feeling, I haven't actually checked
[11:01] <jtmoney> nuu: heh
[11:01] <jtmoney> later guys
[11:16] <djdarkman__> is there a tool that can draw geometrical bodies from equations?
[11:30] <puppetmaster> hello everyone
[11:31] <puppetmaster> I want a download manager that shutdown pc after finished
[11:32] <sercik> it is possible to download  a package without installing?
[11:34] <sercik> Hi puppetmaster the most famous downloader is nt
[11:34] <sercik> try it!
[11:34] <epimeth> djdarkman__: mathematica (wolfram.com) is available for linux, but thats a heavy duty (not to mention expensive) program.  its the only one I know
[11:34] <Jucato> sercik: sudo apt-get -d <package> (not sure if it requires sudo)
[11:35] <sercik> Hi jucato!
[11:35] <epimeth> Jucato: where do packages download to and are they deleted once they are intsalled?
[11:35] <Jucato> hi
[11:35] <sercik> but it wants to remove a pakege
[11:35] <puppetmaster> how can i find it?
[11:35] <sercik> i'd like to download without dependincies check
[11:36] <Jucato> epimeth: /var/cache/apt/archives which is regularly cleaned depending on some config. you can manually do it with "sudo apt-get clean"
[11:36] <puppetmaster> I can't Empty my garbage bin
[11:36] <epimeth> Jucato: thats just it... it hit me recently that I should probably be saving the debs just in case I need to reinstall my system
[11:36] <Jucato> sercik: not sure why it's trying to check dependencies. anyway, you can just head over to packages.ubuntu.com and search for yourself
[11:36] <puppetmaster> Anyone help please
[11:36] <epimeth> Jucato: so I *don't* want to clean them
[11:37] <Jucato> epimeth: apt really saves the .deb's. but the cache is cleaned after a month I think
[11:37] <sercik> ok jucato! thanks!
[11:38] <epimeth> all right... lets back them up :-)
[11:47] <eagles0513875> morning everyone
[11:47] <eagles0513875> !wma
[11:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:47] <eagles0513875> j/w what bit rates does one get with flac
[11:48] <eagles0513875> cuz ive seen with wma losless bitrates between 400kbps and 1 mbps
[11:49] <eagles0513875> anyone able to answer my question
[11:52] <eagles0513875> !w32 codecs
[11:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <eagles0513875> !w32extracodecs
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32extracodecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <eagles0513875> !codecs
[11:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:00] <RawSewage> how do you get the default Ubuntu wallpaper
[12:21] <eagles0513875> what are some common internet streaming protocols cuz in amarok when i try to play a stream i either dont have the right plug in or its says something bout demux what does that mean
[12:33] <M_A_K> eagles0513875 ; #amarok
[12:33] <kotsos> how intall beryl in kubuntu?
[12:33] <eagles0513875> go to #beryl channel
[12:34] <eagles0513875> they will help ya there with installation and any other questions u have about it
[12:34] <kotsos> ok
[12:34] <eagles0513875> M_A_K: i know bout amarok but in amarok i am either getting no sutible plugin or no demux plug in what does that stuff mean
[12:37] <makuseru> !fglrx
[12:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:38] <M_A_K> Never heard of demux
[12:45] <Difilo> hi!
[12:45] <eagles0513875> make
[12:45] <eagles0513875> makuseru:
[12:45] <DJServers> hi all
[12:45] <eagles0513875> u trying to enable open gl
[12:45] <DJServers> can you help me i have downloaded phpfusion but what chmod sould i do/
[12:45] <DJServers> ??
[12:46] <Difilo> does it make any difference if I use the "LIVE-CD" for installing or the "Alternate CD" ?   Some time ago,  someone recommended using the Alternate CD without giving me an idea why not using the Live CD.   If the Live CD boots,  can I use it then?   Or will there be any difference in the installed system then?
[12:46] <makuseru> eagles0513875: no, i just needed that link
[12:47] <makuseru> Difilo: alternate is usually if you dont have enough ram to do a live cd, or if you jsut want term install
[12:47] <Difilo> so if I have enough RAM,  I can use the LiveCD as good as the alternate one?
[12:47] <makuseru> ya
[12:47] <eagles0513875> oh ok cuz i have a wiki that will show u how to enable fglrx
[12:48] <eagles0513875> on the newer ati binary drivers
[12:48] <makuseru> eagles0513875: wasnt for me, my radeon is too old for fglrx
[12:48] <Difilo> makuseru, thank you
[12:49] <DJServers> What chmod sould i do on phpfusion it cant write the file's now with one ?
[12:49] <eagles0513875> lucky u
[12:49] <eagles0513875> too me ages to find a wiki or someone who knew how to get it to work
[12:49] <_4strO> eagles0513875: what is your problem ?
[12:50] <eagles0513875> i was having trouble getting my open gl to work with a radeon xpress 200m but i was lucky enough to find someone who knew of a wiki on how to get it to work and i just use that
[12:50] <_4strO> ok
[12:51] <_4strO> eagles0513875: i have a radeon X600 mobility and it just works fine :)
[12:51] <makuseru> !chmod
[12:51] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:52] <eagles0513875> ?
[12:52] <eagles0513875> _4strO: did u have to make any modifications to the xorg config file
[12:52] <eagles0513875> _4strO: this is the link i used to get mine to work
[12:52] <eagles0513875> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[12:53] <DJServers> !phpfusion
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about phpfusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:58] <_4strO> eagles0513875: i change several things on xorg.conf
[01:00] <eagles0513875> did u have to do alot of stuff that i did in the wiki
[01:01] <_4strO> eagles0513875: no
[01:01] <_4strO> i'm using the free driver
[01:02] <DJServers> what is the cdmod permission for writing ?
[01:02] <eagles0513875> interesting i used the one in the repositories
[01:02] <eagles0513875> even if i downloaded the one from ati's site
[01:02] <eagles0513875> i still have to hack it like that though
[01:03] <DJServers> what is the cdmod write permisson ?
[01:03] <_4strO> eagles0513875: i'm currently googling
[01:04] <Goliath23> DJServers: what do you mean? "chmod -R g+rw directory" gives the all files under <directory> group wrote access
[01:04] <Goliath23> so if the file has a guid that you're a member of, then you can write the file
[01:04] <DJServers> well
[01:04] <DJServers> look
[01:05] <Goliath23> DJServers: chmod ugo+rw gives read/write access to users, group and others
[01:05] <epimeth> how do I quit katapult without killing the process?
[01:05] <DJServers> i have donwloaded phpfusion and when i want to install it it says chmod the phpfusion map for writing
[01:05] <Goliath23> epimeth: esc?
[01:05] <epimeth> quit, not close
[01:06] <Goliath23> don't know. removing it from autostart and restarting kde maybe?
[01:06] <epimeth> lol
[01:06] <epimeth> Goliath23... you are *really* missing the point here :-)
[01:08] <tahsin> can anyone name any cool plug-in for amarOk ? ?
[01:08] <DJServers> but what is the chmod for writing like chmod 777 or something?
[01:08] <epimeth> Goliath23: alt+space (open katapult) then ctrl+c opens a context menu... thanks anyway :-)
[01:09] <Goliath23> DJServers: if "phpfusion map" refers to a directory you should probably make that writable for the user that runs apache. or a group that user belongs to. to find out what user is used to run apacha, do "ps aux |grep apache" and check the first column
[01:09] <Goliath23> epimeth: ahh! :)
[01:09] <epimeth> speaking of apache... why do I have 7 instances running???
[01:09] <DJServers> !ps aux |grrp apache
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps aux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <epimeth> Goliath23: nice little trick, eh?
[01:09] <Goliath23> epimeth: thats configurable.
[01:10] <eagles0513875> any one ever use boinc on here before
[01:10] <epimeth> Goliath23: what? ctrl+c or apache?
[01:10] <epimeth> eagles0513875: I have, but in windows... why?
[01:10] <Goliath23> epimeth: apache
[01:10] <epimeth> Goliath23: where do I configure that and do I want to?
[01:10] <DJServers> !chmod 777
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chmod 777 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <DJServers> !chmod
[01:10] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:10] <epimeth> DJServers: sorry, what is your chmod problem?
[01:11] <epimeth> DJServers: 777 is world read/write/executable
[01:11] <eagles0513875> for some reason on here it wont connect to the local host
[01:11] <epimeth> DJServers: except for some rare instances, you do NOT want to do that
[01:11] <epimeth> eagles0513875: did you put in a username and password for the host?
[01:11] <Goliath23> epimeth: its in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf my default is minimum of 5 spare servers and maximum of 10
[01:12] <eagles0513875> its the local host im trying to connect to aka this machine im on atm
[01:12] <epimeth> Goliath23: is this in case one goes down?
[01:13] <epimeth> eagles0513875: you have a boinc server running on your local machine?
[01:13] <eagles0513875> not a server
[01:13] <eagles0513875> all i want to do is to be able to attach the projects im a part of to it so that i can contribute some processing power if u know what i mean
[01:14] <Goliath23> DJServers: chmod 777 is equivalent to chmod ugo+rwx (7 in binary is 111 the the 1's represent the read/write/executable flags. the first number applies to user, second to group and third to others)
[01:14] <Goliath23> epimeth: no, its more to make sure that there is always an idle fork around that can immediately accept a request. like preloading konqueror instances
[01:15] <epimeth> Goliath23: gotcha... and how do I check if I have prefork or worker MPM installed/running?
[01:15] <tahsin> Goliath23: how do i get the menu bar back on my amarok ?
[01:16] <tahsin> Goliath23: i checked hide menu bar and now cant bring it back
[01:16] <epimeth> eagles0513875: so you have to put in the info for that project into the configuration somewhere... you can't connect to localhost if localhost isn't running a server
[01:16] <tahsin> Goliath23: nah got it back again :)
[01:16] <Goliath23> tahsin: in almost all kde programs you can activate a hidden menubar with ctrl+m maybe that works for amarok, too
[01:16] <Goliath23> kk
[01:17] <Goliath23> epimeth: check your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[01:17] <eagles0513875> then in windows y does it work and in linux it does
[01:17] <Goliath23> I'd just leave it with the default settings
[01:17] <eagles0513875> even before i attach it to a project in windows it automatically connects to the local host
[01:19] <epimeth> eagles0513875: hrm... dunno mate.  I don't have it installed here or otherwise I'd help you out more.  check their help online, I remember it was useful enough to set mine up
[01:20] <eagles0513875> ok ty anyway im in the boinc irc chat channel seeking help there too
[01:20] <_4strO> !ntfs
[01:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:21] <epimeth> _4strO! what up!
[01:23] <tahsin> _4str0: how do i install modebar on amarok ?
[01:24] <_4strO> tahsin: dont know what it is
[01:24] <_4strO> epimeth: :p
[01:25] <tahsin> _4str0: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Moodbar#Screenshots
[01:25] <tahsin> moodbar**
[01:28] <Small_Mac> hey this is my boot grub menu.lst, can someone tell me what i need to change to boot window by default?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24201/
[01:30] <_4strO> Small_Mac: the order
[01:31] <Small_Mac> _4strO as in just pull the window one up?
[01:33] <Emess> hi, i tried to install feisty on a clean box and had so many errors i had to turn back to edgy, however i still have a problem with acpi and mounting on boot from the live cd, and when teh desktop finally loads it doesnt recognise any harddrives to install to
[01:33] <_4strO> Small_Mac: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24205/
[01:34] <Emess> error codes are "ACPI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x2" and after swap is said to be ok "mount: function not implemented" any ideas?
[01:34] <tahsin> Can any one names some cool games for linux ?
[01:35] <Emess> neverwinter nights, quake, and that robot game that comes in the gnome games package
[01:35] <Small_Mac> _4strO thx so much
[01:38] <tahsin> _4str0: where can i get more visualizations for amaroK ? ?
[01:39] <binks_work> _4strO
[01:40] <binks_work> you mean templates
[01:40] <binks_work> themes
[01:41] <binks_work> tahsin : http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=55
[01:41] <binks_work> tahsin is that what you wanted
[01:42] <eagles0513875> epimeth: i fixed the problem
[01:46] <Emess> no ideas?
[01:59] <epimeth> eagles0513875: oh yea?  what was the problem?
[01:59] <eagles0513875> didnt install the core client lol
[01:59] <JuJuBee> What is the preferred method for upgrading from 6.06 to 7.04?  gksu "update-manager -c" tells me my system is up to date.
[01:59] <eagles0513875> juju open konsole and type this
[01:59] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:59] <eagles0513875> that will upgrade all the pkgs that have updated from edgy to feisty
[01:59] <RawSewage> also have to change the repos
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> that automatically changes the repos
[01:59] <eagles0513875> that too
[01:59] <JuJuBee> Isn't there a method that does teh repos as well as the upgrade?
[01:59] <eagles0513875> !repos
[01:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:59] <RawSewage> it does?
[01:59] <RawSewage> I dont think it used to
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> RawSewage: I believe it does....how else can it get the packages?
[01:59] <eagles0513875> u have to manually add the feisty repos
[01:59] <RawSewage> you have to change all the edgy to feisty in the repost
[01:59] <eagles0513875> i have a useful link give me a min to get
[01:59] <RawSewage> just replace all edgy with fesity
[01:59] <eagles0513875> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[01:59] <eagles0513875> that site generates the code and all ull have to do after u have upgraded is run that site again and just add the feisty repos and delete the edgy ones
[01:59] <JuJuBee> I want to make sure I remove any "bad" repos that are not supported so my system gets better :)
[01:59] <eagles0513875> that is a trust worth site cuz u can choose the repos u want
[01:59] <RawSewage> just open  /etc/X11/xorg.conf with  kdesu kwrite
[01:59] <RawSewage> and Replace all Edgy with feisty
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> xorg?
[01:59] <RawSewage> oops
[01:59] <RawSewage> NO
[01:59] <RawSewage> sorry
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:59] <RawSewage> not xorg.conf lol
[01:59] <RawSewage> where is the sources.list
[01:59] <eagles0513875> bbl lunch time
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> /etc/apt/sources.list I think
[01:59] <BluesKaj> copy the generated list ...then select all in the existing sources list and delete, then paste the new list in and save , then sudo apt-get update .
[01:59] <JuJuBee> eagles : that site will generate a sources.list for my current version?  or do I select the new version I wish to use to generate sources?
[01:59] <eagles0513875> select the version u want sources for
[01:59] <eagles0513875> meaning edgy
[01:59] <JuJuBee> K
[01:59] <eagles0513875> *feisty lol
[01:59] <RawSewage> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:59] <RawSewage> ctrl+r
[01:59] <RawSewage> Replace all edgy with feisty
[01:59] <JuJuBee> Are backports bad?
[01:59] <JuJuBee> What about the upstream wine?  I use wine.
[01:59] <RawSewage> are you listening
[01:59] <RawSewage> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:59] <RawSewage> ctrl+r
[01:59] <RawSewage> Replace all edgy with feisty
[01:59] <RawSewage> then save, close
[01:59] <eagles0513875> bbl
[01:59] <RawSewage> do sudo apt-get update
[01:59] <RawSewage> do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:59] <eagles0513875> then after doing that
[01:59] <eagles0513875> ya
[01:59] <eagles0513875> bbl
[01:59] <mark_> hi everyone, when will the next lts version be released?
[01:59] <eagles0513875> its just been released
[01:59] <eagles0513875> the latest version is feisty
[01:59] <eagles0513875> the next one after this wont be for a while
[02:00] <mark_> you mean feisty is an lts release? like dapper?
[02:00] <JuJuBee> RawSewage : I wish to start with a clean sources.list... I am not sure which ones I should remove...
[02:00] <RawSewage> JuJuBee, ok, then use that site
[02:00] <mark_> i don't want to upgrade my ubuntu anymore, so i want a release that would last a long time before i upgrade again...
[02:01] <JuJuBee> What about backports and the upstream wine?  Bad or not?
[02:01] <BluesKaj> yes, mark, feisty is an offical release
[02:01] <RawSewage> I dont know anything about backports or upstream wine
[02:01] <computer> what's the standard kubuntu wireless tool in edgy, in feisty that same tool seem to have not been included by default, i want to add it back
[02:02] <mark_> oh, ok...
[02:02] <pawitp> !alsa
[02:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:02] <BluesKaj> err official
[02:03] <pawitp> can I just create asound.conf?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: thats ok.. we're all used to reading typos ;)
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> pawitp: yeah.. but do you know what to put in it?
[02:04] <pawitp> nosrednaekim: Messing with pulseaudio
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> pawitp: no idea what that is. never have messed with asound.conf either..
[02:05] <pawitp> works anyway :P
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> but hey... just remember what you did!
[02:05] <BluesKaj> yea nosrednaekim , but I'm old and i have to be more careful :)
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ah... you have a reputation of sorts?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> no just a fact, nosrednaekim...I tend to make mistakes
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> true... and if you make a mistake while coding...
[02:10] <BluesKaj> <---not a coder ...no worries there :)
[02:12] <BluesKaj> I'm retired and I spend waaaay too much time on this pc ...but today the weather is awful , so i have an excuse to stay inside :)
[02:13] <binks_work> BluesKaj the wheater here is great and im stuck inside not fair i say
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yeah... the weather is terrible here too... unfortunately I have school:-P
[02:13] <binks_work> opps another typo and im starting to learn c++ thats gonna be fun
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> binks_work: pssh... you'd never notice a typo in C++.
[02:15] <jgarcia> hello
[02:15] <BluesKaj> binks, we all have to make a living , fortunately my working for a company days, are done ...working on earnng some extra income from home.
[02:15] <binks_work> thats what scares me may go for this instead   http://scratch.mit.edu/about
[02:15] <binks_work> gonna get my 7 year old into this
[02:16] <binks_work> i have coded vb fo a while so c++ just the next step
[02:17] <BluesKaj> binks_work, does scratch run in Wine ?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I'm thinking of the grandchildren...I have 2 , 7yrold grandkids
[02:19] <Emess> mmm i have 2 idea drives in this box, but cant mount either of them from the live cd, on trying to i get a message that there is nothing at /dev/hda :S
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/16963 <<--this is pathetic...
[02:20] <binks_work> shoot i asumed it was nix as its free i will look at it
[02:21] <binks_work> Emess try /dev/sda
[02:22] <binks_work> BluesKaj http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=305
[02:26] <binks_work> biab off to lunch
[02:27] <Emess> alreayd tried, didnt work either
[02:37] <neonlinux> hey all... trying out opera.. and i was wondering if any one knows how to make it cycle tabs like firefox. sort of on close got to next tab?
[02:38] <n8k99> neonlinux: you might want to ask in #opera
[02:38] <BluesKaj> i tried it neonlinux , but my enthusiasm lasted about a day ,til it started to get buggy
[02:39] <neonlinux> i have... i think theyre all soing more important things.. and with so many users in here.. i was kinda hoping someone else might have wanted and figured out the same thing
[02:39] <BluesKaj> nice embedded irc client tho
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> hey..... is there one of those for firefox?
[02:39] <n8k99> i used it for five minutes, long enough to see that its far behind konqueror in my list of favorites
[02:40] <neonlinux> BluesKaj: yeah, im liking its speed.. a few things i miss from firefox (extensions mainly).. but im hoping to overcome it enough to give it a fair go
[02:40] <n8k99> nosrednaekim: yes that's the chatzilla extension
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> n8k99: oh cool.. I'll have to go get it.
[02:41] <neonlinux> guess ill just keep hitting google
[02:41] <neonlinux> thanks anyway guys :)
[02:41] <BluesKaj> the email setup is like old netscape was only less flexible
[02:41] <neonlinux> BluesKaj: havent tried email yet
[02:43] <BluesKaj> I think Opers has definite positives but it's still got some odd priorities , like assuming you want an icon panel with the email tree
[02:44] <neonlinux> BluesKaj: and the tab order.. lol... for me.. it just feels odd
[02:45] <n8k99> doesnt like how keyshort cuts do not follow global settings
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, we're all used to FF cuz it's more (I reluctant use this overused word) "intuitive" :)
[02:47] <neonlinux> hmmm.... just realised i dont have a flashblock extension
[02:47] <n8k99> because its tied to the alt+f2 functions
[02:48] <neonlinux> n8k99: havent really tried konqueror for browsing... i love its file explorer though... best ive used
[02:49] <neonlinux> aside from the humble terminal of course lol
[02:49] <BluesKaj> I'm beginning to appreciate Konq more and more ...at first i thot it was too half - hearted and behind the times
[02:49] <neonlinux> BluesKaj: u mean for web or files?
[02:50] <n8k99> neonlinux: i love hitting alt+f2 > typing a web address and letting konqi open up onto that page
[02:50] <BluesKaj> konq never crashes in html or other web apps ...if the plugin isn't installed , it just doesn't work
[02:50] <sercik_> it is possible to mount a folder and not a partition??
[02:51] <neonlinux> hmmm.. me thinks ill have to try konqueror after wacking opera about
[02:51] <Emess> any more ideas about that mounting issue binks_work?
[02:52] <BluesKaj> konq does render some sites better than FF ...ones that only IE can do...which is becoming more rare but still happens occasionally
[02:52] <Emess> exact error is "Unable to open /dev/hda"
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> Emess: are you running it as sudo or root?
[02:53] <neonlinux> Emess: if the drive is a harddrive try putting hda1 in
[02:53] <neonlinux> (or hda5 if its an extended partition)
[02:53] <Emess> yes
[02:54] <Emess> no partitions
[02:54] <neonlinux> Emess: are there any partitions on the drive?
[02:54] <Emess> mount: unable to find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mstab
[02:55] <Emess> afaik its a single partition
[02:55] <Emess> not 100% sure tho
[02:55] <ardchoille> !uid
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <neonlinux> ok... so the drive your trying to mount.. is it on the 1st channel and set as master?
[02:56] <Emess> yes
[02:56] <llutz> Emess: "sudo fdisk -l" or "cat /proc/partitions" helps
[02:56] <neonlinux> is it sata?
[02:56] <Emess> no, ide
[02:56] <ardchoille> Then it should be /dev/hda
[02:56] <neonlinux> ok... fat32?
[02:57] <Emess> yeah, its an ex win98 hdd
[02:57] <Emess> yeah theres an hda1,2 and 5 on it
[02:57] <neonlinux> ok.. make a new folder in the media directory
[02:57] <neonlinux> sudo mkdir /media/x
[02:57] <neonlinux> then do
[02:57] <neonlinux> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/x
[02:59] <Emess> ok that actually worked
[02:59] <neonlinux> you can make more directories and mount the others.. for example...
[02:59] <neonlinux> sudo mkdir /media/y
[02:59] <Emess> so i need to format that entire drive into a single partition and then split it for boot, swap and the regular linux partition to isntall
[02:59] <neonlinux> sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/y
[03:00] <Emess> i need it in a single partition, the whole lol
[03:00] <Emess> fdisk?
[03:00] <ardchoille> Emess: With the partition layout that is currently there, it sounds like Ubuntu was installed on it, because Ubuntu does hda1,2 and 5 by default.
[03:01] <neonlinux> ok.. you'll need to unmount the drives u just mounted... and either use the installer to partition the drive, or install qtparted and partition it that way
[03:01] <Emess> it had win98 on it, and kubuntu was attempted to install but failed when no drives were munted for it to isntall to
[03:01] <Emess> see when i use the isntaller it detects no drives at all
[03:01] <Emess> so it cant install
[03:01] <neonlinux> Emess: ok... that one i dont understand
[03:01] <_zjn_> hey guy
[03:02] <ardchoille> Well, it sounds like formatting the partitions isn't going to work if the installer can't detect the drives to begin with.
[03:02] <neonlinux> Emess: unmount the partitions and install qtparted... check and partition the drive with that
[03:03] <Emess> doing that now
[03:03] <obvio171> does anyone know of a pure UPnP client for Kubuntu?
[03:03] <neonlinux> Emess: hopefully it could just be a bad partition table issue
[03:03] <obvio171> there's the plugin in ktorrent, but i'd like to redirect arbitrary ports for arbitrary programs
[03:04] <Emess> could be, when i boot the live cd it says mount: function not implemented, as well as an acpi error
[03:04] <neonlinux> ok.. try the install with the boot options noapic and nolapic
[03:05] <neonlinux> Emess: i thing they're the options. it could be noapci nolapci
[03:05] <Emess> ok, qtparted found it this time, hda2 is extended and has hda5 in it
[03:06] <neonlinux> Emess: ok.. making sure that that is the correct drive you want to use.. the easiest way is probably to delete the existing partitions and leave it a blank drive
[03:06] <dJFrankie> when i insert a disc in my drive and it doesn't auto where can i find the dics map?
[03:06] <Emess> ok, going to try and merge with qt parted
[03:06] <Emess> uyeah thats what i thought
[03:06] <neonlinux> let the installer make the new partitions u need
[03:07] <dJFrankie> Where can i see the map of my cdplayers?
[03:07] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: u mean it doesnt autostart on disc insert?
[03:08] <dJFrankie> yeah
[03:08] <neonlinux> ok.. what sort of disc is it?
[03:08] <dJFrankie> its an DVD in my dvdplayer
[03:09] <leo> hello
[03:09] <neonlinux> in a terminal try sudo mount /dev/dvd /media/cdrom
[03:09] <dJFrankie> ok wait a sec
[03:10] <neonlinux> if that doesnt work try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[03:11] <neonlinux> and if that doesnt dry the device name (might be scd0) so try sudo mount /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom
[03:11] <neonlinux> *try
[03:11] <acemo> how do i make the configure network devices go faster at startup? it takes more as a minute to do this step :/ (maybe disable the configurating of em at startup since knetworkmanager will automaticly configure em correctly)
[03:11] <dJFrankie> the /dev/scd0 doesnt exsist
[03:12] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: what is your device usually called when you insert a cd?
[03:12] <dJFrankie> ehm...
[03:12] <neonlinux> acemo: that depends on the network setup... are u using dhcp or static
[03:13] <dJFrankie> i dont realy now that :p never look at it :P where can i find that /
[03:13] <dJFrankie> ?
[03:13] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: ok.. when you insert a cd and it tries to auto mount it.. it usually pops up saying automounting /dev/somethingorother
[03:14] <acemo> neonlinux: im using dhcp
[03:14] <dJFrankie> sould i try a normal cd and look where its going ?
[03:14] <fengzi> ??
[03:14] <fengzi> ?
[03:15] <neonlinux> ok.. the reason its taking so long on startup is its its trying to aquire an address and cant find one (or takes a long time to find one)... try using a static and see what happens
[03:15] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: yep.. that could tell you what its device name is
[03:15] <BluesKaj> !jp
[03:15] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[03:15] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: i think there is a way to list drives on your system and what theyre called.. but i have no idea of the command
[03:16] <neonlinux> im just a hack really :)
[03:19] <acemo> neonlinux: i cant try static.. the dhcp server from school wont like that...
[03:20] <dJFrankie> neonlinux:  do you now where to and how to mount a  .iso file /
[03:20] <dJFrankie> then i dont need the cd
[03:21] <dJFrankie> we have a novell server at school
[03:21] <acemo> neonlinux: if i have the wireless switch off when booting and turn it on before logging in to kde, it will work alot faster
[03:21] <llutz> dJFrankie: sudo mount -o loop /path/to.iso /mnt
[03:21] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/isofile.iso /media/cdrom -0 loop
[03:21] <dJFrankie> with sudo ?
[03:22] <llutz> dJFrankie: yes, sudo ...
[03:22] <neonlinux> acemo: hmmm.. using mine at school.. it gets an address pretty quick... one suggestion might be to disable networking on boot and enable the service once booted
[03:22] <neonlinux> acemo: are we talking copper or wifi?
[03:23] <acemo> neonlinux: wifi
[03:23] <neonlinux> llutz: thanks... i always get some of my commands a bit mixed.. :)
[03:23] <neonlinux> acemo: has the access point got encryption?
[03:23] <neonlinux> that could hold it up.. cause after getting an address it then authenticates onto the network
[03:24] <acemo> neonlinux: the one at school doesnt, but the one at home has
[03:24] <neonlinux> acemo: does the one at home go faster or slower than at school?
[03:24] <neonlinux> how close are you to the access point in either situation
[03:25] <dJFrankie> it says that from this part: /media/cdrom -0 loop   the option -0 wrong is
[03:25] <acemo> neonlinux: no diffrence.. the problem is that when i boot up (with the bar going from left to right) it just waits with configuring the network interfaces a minute and it goes further
[03:25] <llutz> dJFrankie: o(oh) not 0(zero)
[03:25] <acemo> neonlinux: after that, i login and knetworkmanager automaticly finds and connects to the network
[03:25] <neonlinux> acemo: i have to be careful with wireless at the school... ive found 2 things.. our library is a natural faradeh (not sure of the spelling) cage.. it kills wifi signals.. and ive found that if machines are in close proximity the signal degrades alot (and causes our winxp boxes to bsod)
[03:26] <dJFrankie> is it o in place of 0
[03:26] <dJFrankie> thx
[03:26] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: sorry... i got mixed up with another command :(
[03:27] <dJFrankie> sudo mount -t iso9660 /home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso /media/cdrom -0 loop  is that good
[03:27] <neonlinux> acemo: best option might be to disable it on boot and let it be started once you have booted
[03:27] <llutz> dJFrankie: sudo mount -o loop /path/to.iso /media/cdrom0
[03:27] <acemo> neonlinux: the wireless aint really the problem.. the problem is that when booting it tries to configure the network but i dont want it to do this, since knetwork manager automaticly does it
[03:27] <acemo> neonlinux: how would i disable it on boot?
[03:27] <neonlinux> dJFrankie: use llutz's command
[03:27] <dJFrankie> so: sudo mount -o loop /home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso /media/cdrom0
[03:28] <llutz> dJFrankie: spaces are evil:      sudo mount -o loop "/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"  /media/cdrom0
[03:28] <neonlinux> acemo: in the system settings in the network config it should have a box thats got an X in it for enable on boot
[03:31] <dJFrankie> ok done
[03:31] <acemo> neonlinux: changed that.. gave me an error about the default gateway being incorrect, but it seem to changed... let me reboot to see if it worked =)
[03:31] <neonlinux> acemo: fingers crossed :)
[03:31] <neonlinux> brb.. coffee calls
[03:32] <renzaassirat> hi
[03:32] <renzaassirat> how to speed my internet
[03:33] <renzaassirat> it is very slow in kubuntu than windows
[03:41] <olesea> hi
[03:42] <DJServers> back
[03:47] <manwithaface> I have several issues regarding KDE at the moment. Firstly, I tried to log in, and when I entered my correct password, the screen blacked and gave me the kdm log on screen again. I installed gdm to get around this, and when I tried to log in through gdm, it came up "Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation.
[03:48] <neonlinux> manwithaface: either (from my lack of understanding) your kde part is stuffed (worst case) or your user profile has issues.. what did you do before it started doing this?
[03:48] <manwithaface> Ah new error: I just tried loging in again and it came up home directory out of disk space
[03:48] <neonlinux> that could do it
[03:49] <manwithaface> I just downloaded 700 megs worth of torrenty goodness
[03:49] <DJServers> ...
[03:49] <DJServers> can you heare me?
[03:49] <DJServers> !tes
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <neonlinux> DJServers: ni.. but i can see u type lol
[03:50] <manwithaface> i'll try to make some space and see what happens
[03:50] <neonlinux> cool.. mv stuff to other place
[03:51] <renzaassirat> how to speed my internet
[03:51] <renzaassirat> it is very slow in kubuntu than windows
[03:51] <neonlinux> renzaassirat: that can depend on whats running on your machine.. or on your network if you have one
[03:53] <manwithaface> i just ordered a 500 GB hdd, i was hoping I could hold out till it gets here, looks like I wont
[03:53] <neonlinux> bummer
[03:53] <manwithaface> o well
[03:55] <renzaassirat> i think my internet is slow
[03:55] <renzaassirat> how to solve this problem
[03:55] <neonlinux> manwithaface: so have u been able to move stuff to log on?
[03:55] <DJFrankie> omg
[03:55] <DJFrankie> my damn internet
[03:55] <DJFrankie> wtf is my provider doing ;p
[03:55] <manwithaface> neolinux: working on it
[03:55] <DJFrankie> it fals out all the time
[03:56] <manwithaface> i have nearly 9 gigs of useless stuff
[03:56] <neonlinux> renzaassirat: are u sure it isnt your provider or another machine on ur network.. there shouldnt be any reason for kubuntu to be slower than windows (ive always found it faster) :)
[03:56] <epimeth> manwithaface: you could always move some stuff to /var or something
[03:57] <manwithaface> how do i change the default from gdm back to kdm?
[03:57] <epimeth> manwithaface: or the old fasioned *ghasp* burning of stuff
[03:57] <neonlinux> manwithaface: sudo nano /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:58] <manwithaface> thanks
[03:58] <neonlinux> i think you can just change the gdm to kdm
[03:59] <manwithaface> ok, so /usr/sbin/kdm?
[03:59] <neonlinux> yep
[03:59] <Ace2016> manwithaface: what are you doing?
[04:00] <neonlinux> manwithaface: and if you dont want to use kdm or gdm to log into your machine just delete the entire line and save it as an empty file
[04:00] <manwithaface> what benifit is that?
[04:00] <manwithaface> wouldn
[04:00] <manwithaface> wouldn't that just dump me into a command line
[04:01] <neonlinux> manwithaface: i prefer logging into the command line, and just typing startx from there
[04:01] <manwithaface> ah
[04:01] <neonlinux> means x doesnt run constantly.. so if i screw up drivers or something (or x crashes) its not as big a deal ;)
[04:02] <neonlinux> i have an ati card.. running feisty... until i installed the glx from apt i couldnt use gui at all
[04:02] <epimeth> neonlinux: wait, what?  why would it matter where you initially logged onto if x crashes?
[04:02] <manwithaface> kdm must live somewhere other than /usr/sbin
[04:03] <epimeth> manwithaface: *cough*/usr/bin/*cough*
[04:03] <manwithaface> nice
[04:03] <neonlinux> epimeth: dunno y it matters... its just that ive found when running x to log me in i have more gui related problesms (one of which, when loging out.. it gives me a black screen and just sits there)
[04:04] <DJFrankie> neonlinux: you now how to unmount ?
[04:04] <manwithaface> DJFrankie: umount
[04:04] <DJFrankie> umount
[04:04] <neonlinux> DJFrankie: depends on what your trying to do.. i know a bit.. but im not the best sauce (bbq s much nicer lol)
[04:05] <DJFrankie> well i have mounted a iso file but how to take it away from /media/cdrom0
[04:05] <neonlinux> sudo umount /path/to/iso.iso
[04:05] <neonlinux> i think thats it
[04:05] <manwithaface> what did you use to mount the iso?
[04:06] <DJFrankie> sudo mount -o loop path/to/isofile.iso
[04:06] <DJFrankie> and
[04:06] <DJFrankie> on the end
[04:06] <DJFrankie> ehm../media/cdrom0
[04:06] <renzaassirat> i cannot install kubuntu
[04:06] <manwithaface> then neolinux's way should work, i have done that before
[04:06] <neonlinux> dont forget the "marks" to avoid the space in filename issues
[04:07] <renzaassirat> after loading  from boot
[04:07] <neonlinux> renzaassirat: i thought u had it installed?
[04:07] <manwithaface> neolinux: after booting with space on the dirve, it just gave me a Konsole
[04:07] <DJFrankie> but do i need to umount /media/cdrom0 or to the map where the iso file stands?
[04:07] <manwithaface> with no Kwin or anything
[04:08] <neonlinux> umount /iso.file
[04:08] <DJFrankie> the path to the iso file where it normaly stands
[04:08] <neonlinux> manwithaface: try creating a new user... that way u can tell if its part of your profile
[04:08] <manwithaface> i got in using GDM fine, but KDM screwed me
[04:09] <neonlinux> ok.. tell me the command u used to mount it
[04:09] <neonlinux> could be something wrong with kdm.. maybe try re-installing it..
[04:09] <manwithaface> what is the command?
[04:09] <neonlinux> manwithaface: must admit though... the problem is a bit beyond my knowledge.. im just thinking of what it could be
[04:10] <manwithaface> thanks anyway
[04:10] <manwithaface> it doesn't go through the login splash
[04:10] <manwithaface> just dumps me in a terminal
[04:10] <neonlinux> manwithaface: sorry.. meant i needed the mount command from DJFrankie
[04:10] <neonlinux> manwithaface: i think it could be your user profile... or some files in /tmp
[04:11] <neonlinux> the way to test would be to reboot.. make a new user.. and log in as the new user
[04:11] <neonlinux> if that works its something in your home folder
[04:11] <neonlinux> if that doesnt work it could be kdm needing re-installing
[04:12] <manwithaface> what is the apt-get to reinstalll
[04:12] <manwithaface> ?
[04:12] <neonlinux> it sounds like something has happened to your .kde configuration files
[04:12] <manwithaface> but i loaded my user through gdm just fine
[04:12] <manwithaface> its like kdm doesn't set up KDE
[04:13] <manwithaface> it doesn't splash, it just pops up a Konsole
[04:13] <neonlinux> manwithaface: ok.. sounds like kdm.... in synaptic you can right click on the app and click re-install... not sure from commandline though
[04:14] <DJFrankie> whats the mount command again? :P i forgot it already :P
[04:14] <neonlinux> sudo mount -o loop "/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"  /media/cdrom0
[04:15] <neonlinux> so to unmount type sudo umount "/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"
[04:16] <manwithaface> apt-get --reinstall install kdm
[04:16] <manwithaface> if anyone cares
[04:17] <neonlinux> manwithaface: is that how to do it?
[04:17] <DJFrankie> i get an error
[04:17] <DJFrankie> it says
[04:17] <DJFrankie> need a systemfilesort or something dont now how to say in english
[04:17] <manwithaface> yeah
[04:17] <neonlinux> manwithaface: cool.. learnt something new :)
[04:18] <neonlinux> i didnt know that
[04:18] <manwithaface> i didn't know you could either
[04:18] <neonlinux> DJFrankie: file system error?
[04:18] <DJFrankie> yeah
[04:18] <DJFrankie> i thinlk
[04:18] <neonlinux> type sudo umount -t iso9660"/home/serverpc1/desktop/bestanden/Windows Server 2003 SP2.iso"
[04:19] <neonlinux> DJFrankie: make sure ur not in the directory
[04:19] <DJFrankie> i am not
[04:19] <neonlinux> DJFrankie: rebooting also works :)
[04:19] <DJFrankie> o its done now thx
[04:19] <DJFrankie> that version whas bugged like hell :P
[04:19] <DJFrankie> now downloading another
[04:20] <neonlinux> DJFrankie: its not a bug... its a feature
[04:20] <marrk> hey, my kubuntu uses mesa for opengl support
[04:20] <DJFrankie> i now wnat to try this one:P Windows_Vista_Ultimate_x86_OEM.iso
[04:20] <marrk> can i change that?
[04:20] <neonlinux> manwithaface: did it work?
[04:20] <marrk> i've got an nvidia geforce fx 5600
[04:20] <marrk> but a game doesn't run on it
[04:20] <neonlinux> marrk: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[04:21] <manwithaface> no
[04:21] <marrk> and glxinfo crashes
[04:21] <marrk> neonlinux: i've installed them thru adept
[04:21] <marrk> didn't download on nvidia.com tho
[04:21] <marrk> would that be better?
[04:21] <tatters> How can I make KDE menu scoll through it's lists rather the expand them?
[04:21] <neonlinux> marrk: and youve changed your xorg.conf file?
[04:21] <manwithaface> is there a 'stopx' command?
[04:21] <marrk> zomg no :(
[04:21] <neonlinux> manwithaface: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:22] <manwithaface> ok
[04:22] <neonlinux> marrk: ok.. make a copy of your current x.org file cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/yourusername/
[04:23] <neonlinux> then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for a line that says device "nv"... change nv to nvidia
[04:23] <neonlinux> save it and exit
[04:23] <manwithaface> kdm not liking me
[04:23] <neonlinux> and reboot
[04:23] <neonlinux> manwithaface: im not sure what else to do... other than create a new user and see if the same thing happens
[04:24] <manwithaface> i can't find this error anywhere on google
[04:24] <neonlinux> manwithaface: its either kdm... a config file... or kdm cant write the files it needs to write to /tmp
[04:25] <neonlinux> manwithaface: a config file in your user profile
[04:25] <neonlinux> sorry... thats the best i can do
[04:25] <manwithaface> reinstalled kdm
[04:25] <manwithaface> hmm
[04:27] <manwithaface> ok, i'll just do gdm
[04:27] <manwithaface> it won't bother me that much, just a little ugly
[04:27] <neonlinux> manwithaface: sorry.. wish i could help more... maybe a reboot.. although i imagin youve already tried that
[04:27] <DJF> omg damn internet
[04:28] <neonlinux> ok.. i gtg.. need much sleep... work later today
[04:28] <neonlinux> night all
[04:28] <DJServers> back again
[04:28] <DJServers> damn internet
[04:31] <radioaktivstorm> I have a question for you all. why do some of the dialog boxes under kubuntu end up being hundreds of pixels wider than the screen, and how does one fix said issue? (1280 x 800)
[04:33] <jtmoney> i have a radeon 300m... which would be better for quality/battery/life/etc. the "ati" driver or "fglrx" driver?
[04:34] <Solifugus> My brother claims to have installed the game "glest" through apt-get install, but I don't see it in regular, universe, or multiverse... where else might it be?
[04:35] <kalorin`> !at
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <kalorin`> !ati
[04:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:35] <jtmoney> kalorin`: thanks
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> !info glest
[04:38] <ubotu> Package glest does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> hrmm
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i think it was there in edgy, perhaps
[04:39] <jtmoney> !search frozen
[04:39] <ubotu> Found: frozenbubble2, love
[04:42] <Dr_willis> love?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> !info love
[04:42] <ubotu> Package love does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:45] <horza> hi
[04:45] <Dr_willis> howdy
[04:56] <ubuntu_> hi
[04:59] <x_link> Hi
[04:59] <x_link> Isn't there any Kubuntu that you install right away?
[04:59] <x_link> No Live CD --> Install
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i had some problems when i tried to install the mp3 support is that an known issue?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  with the autopmated system? theres been some issues with that i recall.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> installing the packages with the package manager should work however.
[05:02] <ubuntu_> with the live dvd
[05:02] <x_link> /wc/wc
[05:03] <x_link> opps
[05:03] <Dr_willis> no idea on the live cd. I dont mess with it - other then to install the disrto
[05:04] <asfak> i like everything about *ubuntu except dull black and white bootloader. How do i change that ?
[05:05] <Dr_willis> edit the grubs menu.lst to make it look like ya want
[05:05] <CaBlGuY> we got google earth on the repos??
[05:06] <CaBlGuY> !googleearth
[05:06] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[05:06] <CaBlGuY> !Medibuntu
[05:06] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[05:08] <asfak> add deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free to your repo
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> ok, I've installed the new repo..  and I'm still not finding goole earth..  :/
[05:11] <CaBlGuY> anyone alive that can help??
[05:13] <lab> ciao a tutti
[05:13] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY,..hangon I'll find the repos for you
[05:13] <CaBlGuY> roger that..
[05:15] <llutz> CaBlGuY: add "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty non-free" to your sources.list
[05:15] <CaBlGuY> k gimme a sec..
[05:16] <CaBlGuY> ummm  what was the command to open the sources list agian..
[05:16] <CaBlGuY> been a while since I've messed with it..
[05:16] <llutz> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:16] <epimeth> google earth is in a medibuntu repo?  cool
[05:16] <tyyy> hi all
[05:16] <epimeth> hi tyyy
[05:17] <tyyy> need help with kubuntu, my machine is freezing sometimes actually regulary but i dont know why
[05:17] <tyyy> hi
[05:17] <sivaji> tyyy do u swap patition
[05:18] <tyyy> no i use the entire disk
[05:18] <epimeth> tyyy: do you *have* a swap partition? :-p
[05:18] <epimeth> tyyy: then you should resize the partition and create a swap
[05:18] <tyyy> you think thats why?
[05:18] <tyyy> how do i do that>
[05:18] <tyyy> ?
[05:18] <epimeth> how much ram do you have?
[05:18] <tyyy> 512mb
[05:18] <Emess> mmm when i restarted x the res dropped to 640x480 at 60Hz and i cant change it back, what part of xorg.conf is it to fix that?
[05:19] <sivaji> tyyy only three commands
[05:19] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm  ok.,.  that didn't work..  I need to open it and be able to save it to the file..
[05:19] <CaBlGuY> what is that nano thing??  never used that b4..?
[05:19] <tyyy> ok im willing to do it
[05:19] <tyyy> just how please?
[05:19] <thebosch-NL> iemand NL ??
[05:19] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: sudo runs as root, nano is a text editor
[05:19] <Emess> CaBlGuY: its a text editor, like pico
[05:20] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: but 10^2 times smaller
[05:20] <CaBlGuY> Hmm  never used that to open my sources list b4..  just had like sudo etc/whatever..
[05:20] <epimeth> ohmygod... I can't believe I just said that
[05:20] <Emess> same here
[05:20] <BluesKaj> yup llutz has it , CaBlGuY meditbuntu
[05:20] <thebosch-NL> iemand die kan helpen met een ATI kaart
[05:20] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: sudo just runs as root... you have to specify a program, too :-)
[05:21] <tyyy> so can you help me with that swap thingy
[05:21] <epimeth> !de | thebosch-NL
[05:21] <ubotu> thebosch-NL: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:21] <CaBlGuY> epimeth,  yea..  kinda know what sudo is.. ;)
[05:21] <CaBlGuY> just need to remember how to open gedit so I can save my sources list..
[05:21] <epimeth> gedit?
[05:21] <sivaji> tyyy sudo swapon /home/swapfile
[05:21] <epimeth> blasphemer!
[05:22] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[05:22] <raylu> if i've built something from source and used make install on it, how would i remove it?
[05:22] <CaBlGuY> wait..   or is it..  fstab..
[05:22] <CaBlGuY> like I said..  been a while..
[05:22] <sivaji> tyyy mkswap /home/swapfile
[05:22] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: alt+f2 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <sivaji> echo "/home/swapfile     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab
[05:23] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: or in ubuntu, whatever opens the run dialog and then gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:23] <CaBlGuY> there.. lemme try that one..
[05:23] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: fstab are your mountpoints.  "fs" (filesystem) "tab" (tab delimited file... like inittab :-))
[05:24] <CaBlGuY> ok that last one worked...  the gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  :)
[05:24] <epimeth> not that I *really* have anything agaist you being here... but why are you here if you are using ubuntu?
[05:24] <sivaji> tyyy last command show me what u output u get for this "swapon -s"
[05:24] <raylu> livecd?
[05:24] <BluesKaj> ok ,yer on gnome, CaBlGuY kdesu kate is for KDE
[05:25] <raylu> if i've built something from source and used make install on it, how would i remove it?
[05:25] <epimeth> BluesKaj: I told him that already :-p
[05:25] <sivaji> tyyy are u there ?
[05:25] <epimeth> raylu: rm :-)
[05:25] <BluesKaj> ok epimeth :)
[05:25] <raylu> rm what? the files it installed?
[05:25] <Jucato> raylu: "make uninstall"
[05:25] <raylu> never defined in the makefil
[05:25] <CaBlGuY> alllrighty..   now lets try the apt-get install googleearth./..  :p
[05:25] <epimeth> BluesKaj: you just don't trust me!
[05:26] <Jucato> raylu: in the same directory where you ran "make install"
[05:26] <BluesKaj> hehe
[05:26] <raylu> though it is comprehensive and has make packages for a billion systems
[05:26] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: sudo apt-get update
[05:26] <raylu> make uninstall doesn't work
[05:26] <CaBlGuY> ummm  yea..  forgot that part..  :p
[05:26] <Jucato> raylu: you can only run "make uninstall" in the same directory where you ran "make install". that is, in the directory where the Makefile is
[05:27] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: and don't forget, its sudo apt-get install Googleearth
[05:27] <raylu> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[05:27] <BluesKaj> google earth is also available on the google site if you want to compile it
[05:27] <llutz> ^^ if uninstall is defined
[05:27] <yutdr> hi all
[05:27] <llutz> raylu: that's why you never should use "make install" :)
[05:27] <raylu> T.T
[05:27] <raylu> but it was a lib that another program needed
[05:27] <raylu> how else would it be recognized
[05:27] <yutdr> is there a log file in kubuntu which has information about the last system crash(freeze)
[05:27] <CaBlGuY> roger that epimeth   ;)
[05:28] <llutz> raylu: use at least checkinstall to build a .deb
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> ok, I keep getting broken packeges error..
[05:28] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm  this one..  -->  2.4-1ubuntu12.3    whatever that is
[05:29] <yutdr> is there a log file in kubuntu which has information about the last system crash(freeze)
[05:29] <raylu> m. that doesn't sound important :P
[05:29] <epimeth> sudo apt-get autoclean maybe?
[05:29] <raylu> what are you trying to do to that package?
[05:29] <raylu> autoclean for who?
[05:29] <CaBlGuY> nope..
[05:29] <epimeth> CaBlGuY, but that was before I saw what package it is
[05:29] <CaBlGuY> ok wait..
[05:30] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: try reinstalling it maybe?
[05:30] <CaBlGuY> woould be sudo apt-get install libc6    yes?
[05:30] <yutdr> hallo?
[05:30] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: that sounds like a good place for libc6 to hide in... google the package tho
[05:31] <BluesKaj> aha dependencies , CaBlGuY
[05:31] <raylu> what's CaBlGuY doing to the package?
[05:31] <Goaxer> Hi, i cant boot kubuntu 7.04 on my hp dv6129 laptop, im new on linux, who can help?
[05:31] <epimeth> raylu: he's getting a broken packages error
[05:31] <raylu> ...
[05:31] <BluesKaj> are you using adept or apt , CaBlGuY?
[05:31] <raylu> but...what is he doing...to...the...package...
[05:31] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  command line
[05:31] <raylu> broken package errors don't just popup in the terminal
[05:32] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, did you add the repos to your sources list?
[05:32] <CaBlGuY> yes'm...
[05:32] <raylu> why would repos matter if he has a broken package...
[05:32] <BluesKaj> ok do yo have synaptic installed
[05:32] <Pupeno_> How do I find the version of a kubuntu only having the file system (not running it)?
[05:32] <Goaxer> I tried tu use acpi=off but it didnt help
[05:32] <BluesKaj> ?
[05:32] <CaBlGuY> yes BluesKaj ..
[05:32] <CaBlGuY> try it then??
[05:32] <raylu> Goaxer, error message?
[05:32] <BluesKaj> use synaptic
[05:33] <CaBlGuY> ok..  gimme a sec..
[05:33] <Goaxer> yes
[05:33] <raylu> goa
[05:33] <raylu> Goaxer, what is the error message =\
[05:33] <Jucato> Pupeno_: cat /etc/issue
[05:33] <llutz> Pupeno_: mount it, check /mnt/etc/lsb_release
[05:33] <Goaxer> something about hardware, i dont know
[05:33] <Jucato> llutz: you mean lsb-release, right
[05:34] <llutz> Jucato: i meant, sry
[05:34] <llutz> Pupeno_: mount it, check /mnt/etc/lsb-release
[05:34] <Goaxer> in past acpi=helped
[05:34] <Goaxer> but now i need to use linux, and acpi=off didn't help :/
[05:35] <Pupeno_> thanks.
[05:35] <CaBlGuY> says libc6 has unresolved dependencies...
[05:35] <Goaxer> writes can't load kernel image or something like this
[05:35] <llutz> Jucato: lsb_release (app) reads lsb-release(file).... stupid :(
[05:36] <CaBlGuY> this was in the error box...   "googleearth:
[05:36] <CaBlGuY>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.5-0ubuntu1) but 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 is to be installed"
[05:36] <BluesKaj> cabok in the terminal  'sudo aptitude install googleearth'
[05:36] <CaBlGuY> then it won't let me install google earth
[05:37] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, in the terminal  'sudo aptitude install googleearth'
[05:37] <Goaxer> Help somebody, tomorrow test for me about linux in college
[05:37] <CaBlGuY> k..  gimme a sec...
[05:37] <Goaxer> writes can't load kernel image or something like this
[05:38] <BluesKaj> ok
[05:38] <Goaxer> whats wrong?
[05:39] <CaBlGuY> ok BluesKaj  now what???
[05:40] <Emess_> ok, X has completely died, is there a way to get the file off the installation cd to fix the config? teh box has no internet connection yet
[05:40] <Goaxer> oh shit i forgot to type "live" before acpi=off :D
[05:40] <Scunizi> I occationally run the KDE desktop on my ubuntu gnome install.  I like kontact and I've set organizer up to use Evo's calendar data.  But korganizer screws up all the item of appointments. Is there a solution to this?
[05:40] <PhinnFort> Scunizi: don't use Evolution?
[05:41] <Scunizi> *times of appointments.
[05:41] <PhinnFort> Scunizi: or ask in #kde
[05:41] <CaBlGuY> Emess,   you could try a fresh "re-install"...
[05:41] <Jucato> actually, #kontact for KDE-PIM stuf
[05:41] <tyyy> shit froze again
[05:41] <tyyy> is there any log file available?
[05:41] <Scunizi> PhinnFort,  gee thanks.. I thought someone here in ubuntu land might be able to help with a kubuntu / ubuntu issue.. Not so?
[05:42] <tyyy> where i can track down the couse of my system crash?
[05:42] <pingveno> I'm having trouble getting aiff files to work in Amarok. It says that there is "No suitable dmux plugin." I dug through its dependencies and found that ffmpeg outputs "Error while parsing header" on aiff files.
[05:42] <Scunizi> Thanks Jucato..
[05:42] <CaBlGuY> Scunizi,   you could just un-install the KDE but leave or re-install Kontact once you get back into Gnome..
[05:42] <pingveno> any ideas on where the problem is?
[05:43] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, did it install ?
[05:43] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  I think  it did but, it's not on my menu...
[05:43] <tyyy> is there any kernel related irc channel more like for troubleshooting?
[05:44] <_Bud> tyyy,Have you replaced CR2032 battery on motherboard?
[05:44] <tyyy> ?
[05:44] <tyyy> i dont have any
[05:44] <tyyy> at least i think so
[05:44] <BluesKaj> relogin CaBlGuY
[05:44] <tyyy> im having a vgn-u70p handheld device from sony
[05:44] <CaBlGuY> close my session and come back on?
[05:44] <Jucato> tyyy: #ubuntu-kernel
[05:44] <_Bud> what kind of machine do you have?
[05:45] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj, ?
[05:45] <CaBlGuY> close my session and come back on?
[05:45] <tyyy> thx
[05:47] <CaBlGuY> ok, I'm taken that's what ya meant so, brb
[05:47] <tyyy> anybody alse an idea what is cousing my crash?
[05:50] <Contrast83> Greets, everyone... Does anyone know how to get rid of EVERYTHING associated with a program when you uninstall it in the package manager? I've already "completely removed" them, and I'm still finding .desktop files, configuration files and folders, etc., scattered throughout my system.
[05:50] <CaBlGuY> K, BluesKaj    still not on my menu...  feel like I'm missin somethin..   :/
[05:50] <tyyy> ok please help i want to try and see if it is the swap partition like somebody mentioned before, and would like to create a swap partition please help
[05:51] <marko_> hey
[05:51] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, googleearth in the terminal
[05:51] <CaBlGuY> K..
[05:51] <marko_> i wanna know what this command do cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep MH
[05:51] <marko_> :D
[05:51] <marko_> does anyone know ?
[05:51] <tyyy> it will delete your cpu physically
[05:52] <llutz> lol
[05:52] <dasnipa> it looks in the cpuinfo file and searches it for 'MH'
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  command not found..
[05:52] <CaBlGuY> marko_,  I bet u can tell us.. :p
[05:53] <dasnipa> marko_: it looks in the cpuinfo file and searches it for 'MH'
[05:53] <llutz> marko_: reads tact-frequency  in MHz from cpuinfo
[05:53] <marko_> i don't know so I'm asking cause a friend told me i should do it but he is so... a little evil
[05:53] <marko_> so i can't trust him
[05:53] <marko_> properly:DD
[05:53] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[05:53] <dasnipa> marko_: it wont do anything bad
[05:53] <marko_> ok:D
[05:53] <CaBlGuY> marko_,  run it..  it's fine
[05:54] <dasnipa> marko_: besides to screw up that file it would have to be run as sudo
[05:54] <tyyy> oh yes it will, it will delete your cpu physically
[05:54] <marko_> tyyy, stfu dude
[05:54] <marko_> thanks guys:D
[05:54] <dasnipa> something like sudo echo ' ' > /proc/cpuinfo
[05:54] <marko_> I'm going now c'ya:)
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> LMAO  @ tyyy
[05:54] <CaBlGuY> :-|
[05:55] <CaBlGuY> dam kidz..
[05:55] <dasnipa> indeed
[05:55] <tyyy> marko dont take it so serious be bit more frankly
[05:55] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, search for it in konqueror
[05:55] <CaBlGuY> K..  BluesKaj  gimma  SEC..
[05:56] <tyyy> ok now somebody help me with sudo rm -r /
[05:56] <tyyy> lol
[05:56] <tyyy> ok back to serious
[05:57] <tyyy> ok please help i want to try and see if it is the swap partition like somebody mentioned before, and would like to create a swap partition please help
[05:57] <CaBlGuY> K BluesKaj   not there..
[05:58] <D_Cent> hi
[05:58] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, the only thing left is to go to the google site and download the tar file
[05:59] <D_Cent> i have a problem with my sidewinder force feedback pro joystick. i cannot configure it. /dev/input/js0 or /dev/js0 doesn't exist and if i create it, i get this message: "no such device"
[05:59] <monfis> jak sie nazywa polski czat
[05:59] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  ok but, why didn't it put it on my menu when I installed it??
[06:00] <D_Cent> i've tried out so much tutorials, but nothing helped
[06:00] <CaBlGuY> and is it something to do with that libc6 file?
[06:00] <BluesKaj> it didn't install , otherwise konqueror would have found it
[06:00] <buz> instead of sda4???
[06:01] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, it didn't install , otherwise konqueror would have found it
[06:01] <CaBlGuY> ok..  so, I should try to re-install that libc6 file then..  yes??
[06:01] <D_Cent> i've loaded the following kernel-modules: sidewinder, joydev, joydump, analog, gameport, emu10k1-gp, evdev and iforce
[06:02] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, gimme a min
[06:02] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  K..
[06:05] <asfak_> can i have my image on bootloader ? any helpful links ?
[06:05] <tyyy> can somebody help with swap?
[06:06] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  I'm re-installing that file..  see what happens..
[06:06] <BluesKaj> ok CaBlGuY , good
[06:07] <llutz> tyyy: do you have free space on hdd?
[06:07] <tyyy> is there any other irc channel where i can get help with system troubleshooting and kernel crash system crash etc...?
[06:07] <khadija> please is there any way to install samba without connection
[06:07] <khadija> ?
[06:07] <tyyy> ah lutz thx, yes i think so
[06:07] <llutz> tyyy: if so, just create a new partition, set the type to swap
[06:07] <Emess_> awesome, xi is fixed now
[06:08] <tyyy> with what can i do that?
[06:08] <llutz> tyyy: sudo cfdisk /dev/your.disk
[06:08] <Emess> iv got a windows box that connects to teh internet with wifi, and i want kubuntu to use that wifi connection over a cat5 cable, any way to do that without samba?
[06:08] <BluesKaj> ok CaBlGuY , http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html ...dl the .bin file
[06:08] <llutz> tyyy: but why a partition? swap-files work fine
[06:09] <Emess> kinda need the internet on it
[06:09] <tyyy> somebody told me
[06:09] <tyyy> that that could e the couse for my crash
[06:09] <khadija>  please is there any way to install samba without connection like download a package
[06:09] <CaBlGuY> Grrrrr  this is gettin under my skin now...
[06:09] <llutz> tyyy: swap-partition has advantages only if you use more than one linux-installation on your pc so they can share it
[06:09] <tyyy> but actually im doubting to
[06:10] <llutz> tyyy: swap causes crashs? i doubt too
[06:10] <tyyy> i dont have more then kubunto on my thingy
[06:10] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  what do I do with the .bin file once I get it?
[06:10] <tyyy> kubuntu
[06:10] <tyyy> is there any log i can check?
[06:10] <llutz> tyyy: /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages
[06:11] <tyyy> i checked that but it seems like hrmm
[06:11] <tyyy> prolly i just dont get it
[06:11] <khadija> please is there any way to install samba without connection
[06:11] <tyyy> if i paste it somewhere
[06:11] <epimeth> khadija: without connection to internet?
[06:11] <tyyy> could you see if there is something bothereing or cousing it?
[06:12] <llutz> tyyy: i doubt that too, sry :)
[06:12] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, right click on it , make executable if necessary... then cd to the file in the terminal and type ./  in front of the file name ...i'tll bring up an install wizard
[06:12] <tyyy> its just freezing sometimes after a while
[06:12] <tyyy> and i dont know why
[06:12] <tyyy> i cant do anything else then reset
[06:12] <llutz> tyyy: thermal trouble?
[06:13] <epimeth> _4strO: Success?
[06:13] <tyyy> if it was then i couldnt restart again and let the machine run for about the same time again or longer as much as i understand theremal problems
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  change the .bin to .exe? or no?
[06:13] <llutz> tyyy: bad memory (RAM)
[06:13] <tyyy> i checked the ram 3 times
[06:14] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: .exe is a windows executable, .bin is (usually) a linux one
[06:14] <llutz> tyyy: memtest for longer 48h
[06:14] <tyyy> well thats what i did
[06:14] <ben_> how many sticks do you hav?
[06:14] <_4strO> epimeth: success for what ?
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> thanks epimeth  for clearin that up..   *eye roll*
[06:14] <tyyy> but it passed
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:14] <llutz> tyyy: hmmm, no idea then.
[06:14] <tyyy> hrmm sledge hammer?
[06:14] <tyyy> lol
[06:14] <ben_> tyy: how many sticks do you have?
[06:14] <llutz> tyyy: ati or nvidia-drivers?
[06:14] <tyyy> intel
[06:15] <llutz> tyyy: should work fine too
[06:15] <epimeth> _4strO: <a href="/forex-trade.html">
[06:15] <epimeth> ack?!?
[06:15] <ben_> tyyy: how many sticks of ram do you have?
[06:15] <tyyy> just one
[06:15] <ben_> oh
[06:15] <ben_> b/c i
[06:15] <epimeth> _4strO: why isn't the "copy" working????
[06:16] <ben_> b/c i've tested 2 sticks of ram dual channel together and got no erros and then done them individually and found errors
[06:16] <epimeth> _4strO: chanserv said "_4str
[06:16] <epimeth> _4strO: O has left the server. (Success).
[06:16] <ben_> i'm trying to compile madwifi from the source code but i get errors
[06:16] <ben_> http://nopaste.ch/a15376450597c65.html
[06:16] <_4strO> i dont know what you're talking about
[06:17] <_4strO> it was just a ghost connection :p
[06:17] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj, should the command be sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin  ???
[06:17] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: in that case... change that to "no. under no circumstances should you change it to .exe" :-p
[06:17] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:18] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, yes
[06:18] <CaBlGuY> so it would be sudo ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin    if so, it's saying command not found.,..
[06:18] <BluesKaj> don't change it to exe ...just make sure it's executable in properties
[06:19] <tyyy> can the couse adept be?
[06:19] <BluesKaj> ok CaBlGuY, you have to install build-essential
[06:20] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: oohhh... lol... misunderstood your question... yea, you have to chmod a+x GoogleEarthLinux.bin in order to make it executable
[06:20] <CaBlGuY> *sigh*...  okey dokey...  gimme a sec.  :p
[06:20] <CaBlGuY> epimeth,  b THERE   that's what I was lookin for..
[06:23] <CaBlGuY> Ummmm ok.,.,   that didn't work..  :/
[06:24] <CaBlGuY> dam..  I it wasn't this hard to install on my desktop...
[06:24] <marrk> dma_timer_expiry dma status == 0x61 rings a bell with someone?
[06:24] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, have you installed build-essential ?
[06:25] <CaBlGuY> Ummm   no sir..  :p
[06:25] <CaBlGuY> gimme a sec..
[06:25] <arkygeek> hi all
[06:25] <marrk> i have huge boot times
[06:25] <marrk> and i get the same error a lot of times in my logs
[06:26] <marrk> 06/05/2007 06:14:25 PM	marrk-desktop	kernel	[   24.826407]   hda:<4>hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
[06:26] <arkygeek> i am running sidux, a debian sid based distro - can i change my repos and switch it to ubuntu?
[06:26] <arkygeek> with a d-u i mean?
[06:26] <jean-benoit> !fr
[06:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[06:27] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[06:28] <DJFrankie> hey when i try to install windows server 2003 sp2 on my server it says: you will need to return to setup in order to install windows choosing dynamic update during setupid will possibly remedy this error what to do now?
[06:29] <llutz> DJFrankie: join win-channel and aks there
[06:29] <llutz> aks
[06:29] <llutz> ask
[06:29] <DJFrankie> win channel
[06:29] <DJFrankie> is that from ubuntu too?
[06:29] <DJFrankie> !win
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <DJFrankie> !windows
[06:30] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:30] <CaBlGuY> LOL
[06:30] <CaBlGuY> DJFrankie,  here...
[06:30] <llutz> DJFrankie: win = windows = microsoft = wrong place here to ask
[06:30] <CaBlGuY> #windows
[06:30] <CaBlGuY> jin that
[06:30] <CaBlGuY> *join
[06:30] <epimeth> !equivalents
[06:30] <DJFrankie> o i am there
[06:30] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[06:30] <DJFrankie> thx
[06:30] <CaBlGuY> word
[06:31] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, try the bin file now
[06:31] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj,  roger that...   doin the chmod right?
[06:32] <BluesKaj> never use it
[06:32] <msemtd_> um, quick question: is it safe to remove the lvm2 package on feisty?
[06:32] <tyyy> well ok something different, did anybody try japanese input system with openoffice?
[06:33] <tyyy> or yet better any body got it running?
[06:35] <CaBlGuY> so far so good BluesKaj    ;)
[06:38] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: what about meeeee! BluesKaj *always* gets the thanks!
[06:38] <epimeth> not my fault I'm at work and only catch half the problems
[06:38] <CaBlGuY> heeh...   ok ok..  thanks epimeth  for umm  helpin out..
[06:38] <CaBlGuY> there.. :D
[06:38] <BluesKaj> epimeth, wait...it ain't over yet :)
[06:38] <CaBlGuY> yea..  see..
[06:39] <epimeth> yay!
[06:39] <CaBlGuY> ok, it's running but I think I may need to update my openGL or DL an olpenGL driver..
[06:40] <epimeth> CaBlGuY: that I can't help you with :-p
[06:40] <CaBlGuY> see..   I bet BluesKaj  can..  so :p
[06:44] <BluesKaj> what graphics card CaBlGuY?
[06:46] <CaBlGuY> BluesKaj, ummm  lemme take a look..   I'm usin a laptop by the way..   Toshiba somethin or another..
[06:48] <CaBlGuY> ok, whats the command to see what Vid card ya got??
[06:49] <nixternal> lspci
[06:49] <nixternal> lspci |grep VGA
[06:50] <nixternal> that will give you exactly what you are looking for
[06:52] <khadija> hi all
[06:52] <CaBlGuY> ok BluesKaj    I got a Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/XP....
[06:52] <khadija>  please is there any way to install samba without connection
[06:53] <khadija> "sudo apt-get install samba"
[06:53] <khadija> this command oblige the user to connect to the internet
[06:54] <c1|freaky> is there thunderbird 2.0 for kubuntu?
[06:54] <JuJuBee> Trying to upgrade from dapper to feisty... Cant get past metacity error... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/metacity-common_1%3a2.18.2-0ubuntu1.1_all.deb (--unpack):
[06:55] <JuJuBee> What to do?
[06:56] <khadija> somebody is there????
[06:56] <khadija> i have a archive but i coudn't install it?
[06:56] <llutz> khadija: sudo dpkg -i archive.deb
[06:56] <CaBlGuY> yea, that's the only way I would know to install khadija
[06:57] <llutz> khadija: but it will fail if you don't have all dependend packages too
[06:58] <JuJuBee> Any suggestions for my error on metacity?
[06:59] <llutz> JuJuBee: download again
[07:00] <JuJuBee> Shoudl I remove it from the archives and do the dist-upgrade again?
[07:00] <llutz> JuJuBee: try just do reinstall this package
[07:01] <JuJuBee> llutz : error... E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[07:02] <JuJuBee> I tried teh apt-get -f install and it failed as well...
[07:02] <llutz> JuJuBee: broken package maybe?
[07:02] <JuJuBee> I guess.  What do I do about it?
[07:03] <JuJuBee> should I apt-get remove metacity and try to continue?
[07:03] <khadija> I test the command but the system gives me thismessage
[07:04] <khadija> Des erreurs ont t rencontres pendant l'excution:
[07:04] <khadija>  samb
[07:04] <khadija> how resolve it
[07:04] <khadija> how can i resolve it
[07:08] <khadija> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[07:08] <khadija> i need help
[07:08] <khadija> how can i install samba
[07:08] <khadija> i want to share folder in windows
[07:09] <CaBlGuY> so, BluesKaj  any help on updating the drivers??
[07:11] <trpr> khadija: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[07:12] <trpr> khadija: then you can mount your windows shares with the smbmount command.. ie sudo smbmount //somecomputer/someshare /some/local/directory
[07:12] <ubuntu_> hello
[07:12] <BluesKaj> CaBlGuY, try the google-linux search for the drivers http://www.google.com/linux
[07:12] <ubuntu_> how do i enable r/w on ntfs drives ?
[07:13] <BluesKaj> bbl
[07:14] <JuJuBee> Can someone give me a hand with dist-upgrade... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24270/  metacity problem... dapper -> feisty
[07:14] <sercik> ubuntu_ you need to install ntfs-config
[07:14] <jujimufu> I have downloaded gnome-bluetooth, bluez, gammu and wammu, and I have set up gammurc to have a pin, namely 5432. But when I run wammu and it detects my phone, on my phone I am asked whether I want a connection with the computer. I say yes, and it asks for a password. I put the password I have pre-arranged, but it says "connection failed". Any ideas?
[07:14] <sercik> and then you can use it to enable rw
[07:14] <ubuntu_> oh, ok
[07:14] <ubuntu_> know anything about persistant livecd ?
[07:16] <khadija>  <trpr>  the problem is that the second computer dosn't have connection
[07:16] <khadija> to net
[07:16] <khadija> i download it a package
[07:16] <khadija> how can i install it?
[07:16] <trpr> khadija: second computer is the linux computer? if you dled a .deb you can install it w/ dpkg -i <file>
[07:17] <trpr> but i'm not entirely clear on what the problem is
[07:17] <marrk> hmmm
[07:17] <khadija> yeah in the second i have kubuntu also
[07:18] <marrk> can anyone help with : hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
[07:18] <llutz> khadija: samba installed on the second pc?
[07:18] <khadija> no isn't installed
[07:18] <khadija> i want to configure it
[07:19] <hyper__ch> any economist here?
[07:19] <ubuntu_> what are the main differences between ubuntu 6.04 and fawn ? (any reason why not to use the earlier version ?
[07:19] <llutz> khadija: try "sudo aptitude download samba" on your pc with internet. after aptitude is finished, copy the downloaded files to the second pc and install them with dpkg -i
[07:19] <Emess> hey, iv got a windows box with wifi and i need to share that connection with kubuntu over lan, anyway to do that? kubuntu currently has no internet connection
[07:21] <marrk> I have long boottimes with this error message: hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
[07:21] <marrk> anyone knows something about it?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> know anything about persistant livecd ?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> what are the main differences between ubuntu 6.04 and fawn ? (any reason why not to use the earlier version ?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:23] <ubuntu_> am i lagging ?
[07:23] <khadija> [17:18]  <llutz> khadija: samba installed on the second pc?
[07:23] <khadija> [17:18]  <khadija> no isn't installed
[07:23] <khadija> [17:18]  <khadija> i want to configure it
[07:23] <khadija> [17:19]  <khadija> but i don't have connection
[07:23] <khadija> [17:20]  <khadija> dpkg -i <file>.deb but dos'nt work
[07:24] <trpr> ubuntu_: i think one is the long term support release (6.06 or something). and no, i don't think there is any reason not to use the earlier version
[07:24] <llutz> khadija: how do you want to configure it, if it isn't installed?
[07:24] <Emess> ubuntu_: use dapper if you want, feisty is just newer and prettier
[07:24] <trpr> i am confused how you plan on using it w/out network between the two pcs? maybe i am confused and its just internet the second pc is missing, not network
[07:27] <khadija> how can I install it
[07:27] <trpr> ubuntu_: *repeats* i think one is the long term support release (6.06 or something). and no, i don't think there is any reason not to use the earlier version
[07:27] <darryl> Any of your guys got  PPTP working with Kubuntu?
[07:27] <SilentDis> hello :)
[07:27] <SilentDis> !mp3
[07:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
 so how can i install it?
[07:28] <trpr> khadija: get the samba package and the smbfs package and any other dependencies they need. transfer them to the pc without internet somehow and install them with 'sudo dpkg <filename> ...
[07:29] <JuJuBee> Can someone please help me?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24270/  I can't get past this error in dist-upgrade.
[07:29] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Hmmm
[07:29] <trpr> khadija: if the second pc had interent this wouldn't be such a pain. you could just apt-get the packages and be ready to go
[07:30] <trpr> speaking of which, they are probably on the cd
[07:30] <SilentDis> aargh, stupid question, i'd like to have Konversation pass URL clicks to my already open instance of Konqueror, rather than open a new one.  where is the setting?
[07:31] <khadija> ok i get and i will transfert it with usb
[07:32] <khadija> i will dwonload the deb package
[07:32] <jujimufu> I have downloaded gnome-bluetooth, bluez, gammu and wammu, and I have set up gammurc to have a pin, namely 5432. But when I run wammu and it detects my phone, on my phone I am asked whether I want a connection with the computer. I say yes, and it asks for a password. I put the password I have pre-arranged, but it says "connection failed". Any ideas?
[07:33] <SilentDis> jujimufu: I don't have much experience with wammu, might be best to check out that project's official help channels...
[07:33] <SilentDis> !wammu | jujimufu
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wammu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <darryl> Any of your guys got  PPTP working with Kubuntu? I almost have it working, but I get the "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP" - anyone here know how to work around that?
[07:35] <jujimufu> SilentDis: I don't see any channels... bah...
[07:35] <SilentDis> jujimufu: phone db for wammu: http://cihar.com/gammu/phonedb -- wiki http://www.gammu.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gammu:Wammu
[07:35] <jujimufu> !gammu
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gammu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <jujimufu> SilentDis: thanks
[07:36] <SilentDis> jujimufu: nt.  sorry i couldn't be more help
[07:38] <eeos> how do you update kdevelop to 3.4.1? I cannot find the repository!
[07:38] <jujimufu> SilentDis: no worries.
[07:38] <darryl> Any of your guys got  PPTP working with Ubuntu? I almost have it working, but I get the "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP" - anyone here know how to work around that?
[07:39] <eeos> they do not appear to be anywhere on the website.
[07:39] <ks_> halo
[07:40] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[07:40] <der_messias> hi
[07:41] <SilentDis> eeos: looks like current for kdevelop for Kubuntu 7.04 is 3.4.0 branch.  are you looking for gutsy dev stuff by chance? (#ubuntu+1)
[07:41] <eeos> SilentDis: nope, they released 3.4.1 few days ago with kubuntu 704 packages, but cannot find their repository anymore
[07:43] <SilentDis> eeos: http://www.kdevelop.org/index.html?filename=3.4/download.html - the download page for the kdevelop project might help
[07:43] <SilentDis> eeos: yep, looks like they have repos listed there
[07:44] <eeos> SilentDis: it is an outright mess there
[07:44] <eeos> SilentDis: looking at it trying to make sense of the field
[07:44] <sercik> someone can help me to pair a bluetooth device?
[07:45] <jujimufu> sercik: what phone do you have and what applications are you using?
[07:45] <SilentDis> eeos: in the Binaries section of that page, just under the first table, is where it lists the repos
[07:45] <eeos> SilentDis: it looks they have releaed the binaries for 610
[07:45] <sercik> i have a k700i ericsson
[07:45] <eeos> SilentDis: but not for 704
[07:45] <sercik> and for now i haven't installed applications
[07:45] <eeos> SilentDis: and they are in the kde 356 repository
[07:45] <sercik> i have bluettoth icon on systray
[07:45] <eeos> SilentDis: instead of 357
[07:45] <eeos> SilentDis: :(
[07:46] <SilentDis> eeos: sounds like rather than using the tool, it might be better to offer some of your time to help clean up their website.  LOL
[07:47] <eeos> SilentDis: well, you cannot get involved i all open source project on the planet, can you?
[07:47] <SilentDis> eeos: no, you surely can't lol
[07:47] <Haffe> Hmmm.
[07:47] <eeos> SilentDis: so I have to content myself with all I am doing :P
[07:48] <jordo23> Is it possible to run Konversation minimized at startup?
[07:48] <Haffe> I have a programing question. I have read 'Structure and interpretation of Computer Programs 3/e' what would be the next book to read in progresion?
[07:51] <SilentDis> jordo23: having it startup isn't too hard, add a symlink to /usr/bin/konversation in ~/.kde/Autostart.  as for getting it to start in the tray and only in the tray, i'm not so sure...
[07:51] <eeos> have a nice evening everybody!
[07:51] <epimeth> Haffe: depending on the language, a Bruce Eckel book
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> SilentDis: I think thats a command line option
[07:51] <epimeth> Haffe: www.mindview.net
[07:51] <jordo23> SilentDis: Yeah....that's what I am shooting for.....why is this never added to Konversation or an option in the config?  It is with most other KDE GUI programs...
[07:52] <SilentDis> jordo23: how about starting it, closing it's main window, then saving session in KDE?
[07:53] <epimeth> SilentDis: thats what we call a "workaround"
[07:53] <jordo23> SilentDis: Doesn't work.....when logon happens it maximizes...
[07:53] <epimeth> ohhh... keeping it closed... gotcha
[07:53] <jordo23> ya
[07:53] <SilentDis> epimeth: agreed on that comment :P
[07:53] <SilentDis> jordo23: darnit!  lol
[07:54] <epimeth> SilentDis: I'm good with workarounds... seems like half of what Ido is a workaround... god I hate it when "time is of the essence"
[07:54] <Mich> hi
[07:55] <SilentDis> Mich: not yet...  *snicker*
[07:55] <SilentDis> Mich: oh, the greeting, not my current state.  sorry.  hi!
[07:58] <epimeth> wow... http://bash.org/?73148
[08:00] <SilentDis> eh?
[08:01] <eagles0513875> what will allow me to decode wma files
[08:02] <epimeth> !wma | eagles0513875
[08:02] <ubotu> eagles0513875: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:02] <BluesKaj> epimeth, what's with the contradictory psychobabble :)
[08:02] <epimeth> BluesKaj: I'm a stoner myself :-p
[08:02] <maarch> hi
[08:02] <epimeth> BluesKaj: but don't tell anyone
[08:02] <epimeth> maarch: hello
[08:03] <maarch> i need some help with mount an external ntfs hard drive in linux kubuntu
[08:03] <maarch> the device is recognized and i am able to mount it manually
[08:04] <maarch> how can i do to be able to mount it by double clickin the popup that appears when it is plugged in?
[08:04] <SilentDis> maarch: a usb drive i assume?
[08:04] <maarch> yes it is
[08:04] <BluesKaj> epimeth, nothing wrong with a lil toke now & then  ;> )
[08:05] <x_link> Hi
[08:05] <x_link> Just installed Kubuntu 6.10 on my machine
[08:05] <maarch> hi x_link
[08:05] <x_link> 7.04 cd didn't work =/
[08:05] <x_link> That was  my last cd.
[08:05] <x_link> Anyway
[08:06] <x_link> I have been using Debian otherwise
[08:06] <jujimufu> x_link: well, what about re-burning the ISO?
[08:06] <x_link> jujimufu: It's not a CD-rw =/
[08:06] <x_link>  /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[08:06] <jujimufu> x_link: oh, and you don't have any other CD's?
[08:06] <x_link> When I did that in Debian then X got killed and I came to CLI
[08:06] <x_link> But in Kubuntu that doesn't happen?
[08:06] <x_link> jujimufu: No =/
[08:06] <jujimufu> x_link: you can upgrade to feisty by doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, I think. You can check the ubuntu forums for more details.
[08:06] <x_link> I want to install the nvidia driver, so how do I kill X and come to CLI?
[08:07] <maarch> go into tty1
[08:07] <jujimufu> x_link: ctrl+alt+f2?
[08:07] <x_link> jujimufu: Okej.
[08:07] <SilentDis> x_link: after killing kdm, drop to tty1 (ctrl-alt-f1)
[08:07] <maarch> killall x
[08:07] <x_link> hmm
[08:07] <SilentDis> x_link: or, f2, all the way to f6 in fact hehe :)
[08:07] <eXistenz> when in kubuntu console I get ^[[D instead of moving left, when pressing the left arrow key, what might cause this?
[08:07] <epimeth> x_link: or you can just ctl_alt_f1/2/3/4/5 and not have to close x
[08:08] <epimeth> get back to x by alt_f7
[08:08] <minty> hi any one good with beryl
[08:08] <SilentDis> eXistenz: <ot>I saw the movie you're named after.  that was a trip.  :D</ot>
[08:08] <x_link> epimeth: You kill X to install the nvidia driver
[08:08] <epimeth> x_link: that would be correct
[08:09] <epimeth> best to not kill, but nicely shut down tho
[08:09] <jujimufu> guys, what repos do you have to add to sources.list in order to install beryl? I have it installed already, I don't need to install it, I just want to know because I have forgotten.
[08:09] <jujimufu> And I don't know which ones are official and which ones are not, in sources.list
[08:09] <SilentDis> jujimufu: kubuntu 7.04?
[08:09] <epimeth> x_link:  so log off, ctrl+alt into a cli, then sudo /etc/init/kdm stop
[08:10] <epimeth> x_link: then you should be able to install the drivers
[08:10] <x_link> epimeth: okej
[08:10] <epimeth> x_link: remember to back up your xorg.conf first!
[08:11] <epimeth> I hope he saw that...
[08:11] <llp78> jujimufu: mmunity maintained (Universe) and Non-free (Multiverse) boxes.
[08:15] <pfein> in kmail, is there a way to delete from local folders & bypass the trash?
[08:15] <epimeth> shift+del
[08:15] <epimeth> I guess
[08:17] <jujimufu> llp78: thanks
[08:17] <ubuntu_> list
[08:17] <pfein> epimeth: huh
[08:20] <epimeth> pfein: instead of just deleting, press shift while you're doing it... that should permanently delete instead of sending to trash
[08:20] <pfein> epimeth: yup, so it did.
[08:20] <goban> whyso@whyso-desktop:~/_spe$ speYou need to install at least wxPython v2.5.4.1 to run SPE. python-wxgtk2.8 is already the newest version. help???
[08:20] <pfein> was just surprised I couldn't find it on the menus ;-) makes sense tho - like konq.
[08:20] <pfein> thx
[08:21] <BluesKaj> !tuxfamily
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxfamily - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <Small_Mac> could someone tell me how to get rid of/uninstall the 2.6.20-15 kernel that shows at boot screen so i only have the -16 version left, i could just edit grub menu file, but i wanted to get rid of it, especially since i don't know how big a file the old kernel is
[08:21] <BluesKaj> !edit-grub
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edit-grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <llp78> Small_Mac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459901
[08:23] <Small_Mac> thx BluesKaj and llp78
[08:25] <BluesKaj> llp78, http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/16701
[08:25] <bridget_> i have a problem loading the live cd. It says no errors yet when it gets to setting up networks it just stops. any ideas why?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> err Small_Mac http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/16701
[08:27] <Small_Mac> thx again BluesKaj =)
[08:27] <llp78> BluesKaj: when you edit grub you dont actually remove the kernel, but rather hide it from grub - he asked about removing it
[08:27] <BluesKaj> Small_Mac, hhmm, don't think that page is gonna help you'
[08:27] <llp78> this page will http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459901
[08:28] <BluesKaj> llp78, yeah it's dangerous removing kernels :)
[08:28] <BluesKaj> even old ones
[08:28] <llp78> not if you follow the guide
[08:29] <Small_Mac> ic, how big is each kernel anyway
[08:29] <llp78> i would just leave it - can see it taken up much room anyway
[08:29] <Small_Mac> cuz i don't mind letting it sit there and just edit it outta the grub
[08:29] <Small_Mac> cool, is there a rough number for the size?
[08:29] <llp78> cant see it **
[08:29] <llp78> 50mb
[08:29] <Small_Mac> ya
[08:29] <Small_Mac> cool i'll just leave it in peace
[08:29] <Small_Mac> hopefully that'll leave me in peace in return har har
[08:30] <Small_Mac> and thx to both u guys again =)
[08:30] <BluesKaj> Small_Mac, llp78 one can edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst but that's dangerous too
[08:30] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj ya but i messed with the grub yesterday and i did ok, so i think i'm more encouraged to do that today lol
[08:31] <llp78> yep - i had grub issues
[08:31] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj right now i'm thinking of just commenting out the old kernel lines with #
[08:31] <rui> hi guys
[08:31] <BluesKaj> I was able to restore hidden grub menu using it tho just commented the hiddenmenu line out
[08:31] <rui> I have one big issue i can't install java
[08:31] <llp78> lost vista when installed kubuntu - took about to weeks to get it duel booting - dont know why though havent used vista sinice
[08:31] <Small_Mac> hehe
[08:32] <BluesKaj> yes , Small_Mac , commenting out is agood idea
[08:32] <Small_Mac> cool, alrights, i'll go try that out
[08:32] <llp78> take a backup first
[08:32] <Small_Mac> ya
[08:32] <Small_Mac> good point =)
[08:32] <Small_Mac> woulda forgot lol
[08:34] <Cavallek> what should I use for antivir
[08:35] <bridget_> i have a problem loading the live cd. It says no errors yet when it gets to setting up networks it just stops. any ideas why?
[08:35] <llp78> bridget_: what type of network do you have ?
[08:36] <bridget_> lip78: Wireless and Wired, just not plugged in during install.
[08:36] <Small_Mac> is there someway to create an icon on the panel bar that links to a folder? (trying to have a squeaky clean desktop)
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Cavallek: no need. you have linux
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Cavallek: if you feel paranoid, check out this link
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> !antivirus
[08:36] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[08:36] <bridget_> lip78: My wireless is a dell 1390 :)
[08:37] <Cavallek> Admiral_Chicago, yeah. But my friend told me that he has send to one friend an email for which one he didnt know. And it said to me that it was virus ... Dunno I will try this
[08:38] <llp78> bridget_: its ot to be the wireless, but sorry i havent a clue
[08:39] <trpr> Cavallek: linux doesn't need any virus. if some company is trying to sell it to you, its not worth the purchase
[08:39] <bridget_> lip78: Okay. Thanks.
[08:39] <trpr> antivrisu that is
[08:39] <Small_Mac> my wireless works flawlessly with feisty, it's like the connection is stronger now
[08:39] <trpr> bah. *curses fingers*
[08:39] <Small_Mac> so glad i upgraded lol
[08:39] <bridget_> Dell 1390 the BEST wireless card for.........................nothing.... hehehe
[08:40] <Small_Mac> trpr we don't need virus protection is that only because there's significantly less existing viruses written for linux, or that linux somehow jus kill virus, (ya newbie question)
[08:41] <llp78> bridget_: your wireless card is not supported - check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459901
[08:41] <trpr> Small_Mac: linux is just a hostile environment. ive read there are 'proof of concept' linux viruses, but none of them are really practical or a threat.
[08:41] <Small_Mac> trpr cool thx
[08:43] <Ace2016> Hi all
[08:44] <Ace2016> can anyone point me to a filesharing howto for linux, i want to share files between a virtual machine (XP in Virtualbox) and the host(feisty)
[08:47] <minty> any1 good with beryl?
[08:47] <iarwain_> hiya, can anyone help me with a mass-renaming? i have files called something_01 something_02 something_10 etc. I'd like to name them like this: something_001 something_002 etc. How do i do this?
[08:48] <BluesKaj> !beryl | minty
[08:48] <ubotu> minty: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:48] <Ace2016> minty: i use beryl
[08:48] <Ace2016> iarwain_: use krename, in the repos
[08:49] <iarwain_> Ace2016: i'll give that a shot, thanks!
[08:49] <trpr> ooh. neat. i was going to suggest some bash scripting but this looks much easier
[08:49] <iarwain_> trpr: well, i like bash scripting, care to tell me? =)
[08:50] <hendaus> hiya all
[08:50] <Ace2016> gi
[08:50] <Ace2016> Hi
[08:53] <iarwain_> Ace2016: i am not that good with GUI's.. Can you please help me a bit? (or give konsole commands? :D )
[08:55] <Ace2016> iarwain_: konsole command for what?
[08:55] <trpr> iarwain_: err, well you could do it with a for loop that browses over every item in the current directory. for I in *, etc. then for each item you could formulate a new name and then mv the file.. lots of little details which is why i would just use krename
[08:55] <iarwain_> trpr: ah, seems a bit too complicated then :)
[08:55] <iarwain_> Ace2016: nvm, trpr answered that question ;D
[08:56] <Ace2016> iarwain_: oh, sorry, i'm not that good with the command line, which is why i found lots of gui apps to do most things
[08:56] <Small_Mac>  is there someway to create an icon on the panel bar that links to a folder? (trying to have a squeaky clean desktop)
[08:56] <Ace2016> Can someone help me setup a samba share?  i've installed it and edited the config file as show,  then what do i do??? how do i start samba??? http://www.go2linux.org/node/98
[08:57] <epimeth> \quit quit
[08:57] <trpr> Ace2016: try sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[08:57] <iarwain_> Ace2016: you start samba with 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' restarting if samba is already started, so it reloads your smb.conf
[08:58] <iarwain_> Ace2016: you don't happen to know how to make 2 digits 3 digits? like file01.jpg => file001.jpg? with krename though =)
[08:59] <trpr> Ace2016: also, after editing your smb.conf file, run 'testparm' to double check the syntax is correct
[08:59] <Solifugus> Where can I specify a program to start up automatically after boot?
[09:00] <llp78> Solifugus, system services
[09:00] <dominik_> hello world
[09:00] <jetsaredim> how do I switch from blackdown java to sun java?
[09:01] <Ace2016> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:02] <jetsaredim> Ace2016: how do I switch the firefox plugin?
[09:02] <simi> hey i am new with kubuntu and i cant get no sound
[09:02] <Carnage59> hello
[09:03] <simi> can someone help me
[09:03] <dominik_> I was wondering if anyone could help me, I have a Kubuntu 6.06 LTS installed, but it has stopped getting updates.
[09:03] <Small_Mac> simi: hmm ur on feisty? i think i had that on edgy b4, forgot how i did it, but with feisty everything's fine
[09:03] <Carnage59> # Un shoot-them-up en 3D filaire. Superbe !
[09:03] <Carnage59> # vegastrike : Simulation de c
[09:04] <Ace2016> iarwain_: use krename's gui wizard for new users, add the files to the list, next, tell it to rename the input files and to create an undo script, then go to Name: pick custom from the dropdown, give it the part that stays the same, e.g, archive_part, then in suffix: pick number, then change the number of digits, and leave the starting number to zero, that'll do it, it'll make archive_part001.zip (if zip was the original
[09:04] <Ace2016> extension)
[09:04] <dominik_> when I use the apt-get command, it says its trying to connect to remote server,  but nothing happens
[09:05] <simi> small mac: feisty?
[09:05] <Ace2016> dominik_: sure there are updates? what are you looking for?
[09:05] <MaTiAz> How do I get rid of Katapult? It's annoying when it pops up when I accidentally press alt and space :|
[09:05] <dominik_> Ace2016: it stopped updating about 4 months ago
[09:06] <Ace2016> dominik_: maybe there aren't any updated packages
[09:07] <Ace2016> trpr: now that samba has been started how do i connect to it from windows?
[09:07] <dominik_> normally, there used to be icon at the system try to indicate updates and security updates...that doesn't come up anymore
[09:07] <simi> small mac: what is feisty
[09:08] <Ace2016> Kubuntu 7.04, codenamed Feisty Fawn
[09:08] <trpr>  Ace2016: from windows? search for computers or network neighborhood. it will show up like its just another windows machine
[09:09] <Ace2016> ok thanks
[09:09] <trpr> Ace2016: there is some more work involved to get pw based login working, but the security level 'share' should work at this point without any more config
[09:09] <dominik_> I think there must be a problem somewhere, I even installed Kubuntu on another machine, and I can't get updates for that too
[09:10] <simi> Do anyone know, how i set my sound on kubuntu 6.06?
[09:10] <payam> no
[09:11] <Ace2016> simi: set volume? try kmix
[09:11] <simi> not the volume, the soundcard itself
[09:12] <iarwain_> Ace2016: got a problem, they still won't line-up correctly, something_10 still comes before something_2 .. that's what i'm trying to correct xD
[09:13] <simi> there s a red cross over the speaker
[09:16] <dominik_> thanks guys, nothing is working for me. I will have to go back to Windows
[09:16] <Ace2016> iarwain_: select something_0 > something_9 then convert them to something_000 to something_010 then do 11 to 99, and your done
[09:16] <iarwain_> Ace2016: will try, thanks!
[09:16] <jacques> hi
[09:16] <Ace2016> hi
[09:17] <trpr> dominik_: heh. try sudo apt-get update
[09:17] <jacques> How can I type this symbol in console
[09:17] <trpr> dominik_: all your sources update correctly?
[09:17] <Ace2016> jacques: copy and paste?
[09:17] <Pensacola> is there a way to make kubuntu print in reverse order, last page first
[09:17] <Pensacola> by default?
[09:17] <jacques> ~/.kde
[09:17] <jacques> I can not find it
[09:17] <simi> help
[09:17] <jacques> the first one
[09:18] <simi> heeeeeelp?
[09:18] <dominik_> I've tried sudo apt-get update it times out
[09:18] <Ace2016> jacques: thats the same as /home/username/.kde
[09:18] <Ace2016> jacques: ~ on my keyboard is next to enter above #
[09:18] <jacques> yes but i want to make autostart beryl
[09:18] <BluesKaj> dominik_, not all repos are available 24hrs/day
[09:19] <jacques> I am using an english us keyboard
[09:19] <trpr> dominik_: ok. you said you have another kubuntu installation? look at /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure each line (source) is the same
[09:19] <dominik_> they are the same...
[09:20] <simi> forget about the sound
[09:20] <rafael> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
[09:20] <trpr> dominik_: and apt-get update hangs? does it recover eventually?
[09:20] <jacques> ok I found it
[09:20] <jacques> thank you
[09:20] <rafael> :)
[09:20] <simi> another problem:how can i format a harddisk
[09:20] <dominik_> the second one is a new installation, it hangs too
[09:21] <dominik_> when it times out, it will return to the prompt
[09:21] <rafael> alguem ai do brasil ?
[09:21] <trpr> dominik_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ .. paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file so i can take a look
[09:21] <simi> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[09:21] <dominik_> ok
[09:21] <llutz> !de|simi
[09:21] <ubotu> simi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:21] <dominik_> wait...
[09:21] <BluesKaj> !de | simi
[09:24] <weswh-> when i upgraded to fiesty i lost my trash can - how do i get there?
[09:25] <usagi__> hi i have live cd issues. when gdm loads all i see is a white screen.
[09:26] <trpr> dominik_: this is a pretty dumb question, but both pcs have internet access? that is the only thing i can think of if the sources.list file contains valid respositories
[09:27] <trpr> dominik_: but from the sounds of it, the repos in that file can't be reached.. apt-get update hangs, etc.
[09:29] <dominik_> here is the link of the paste bin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24293/
[09:30] <binks_> BluesKaj: did you look at squeak i just got home from work
[09:31] <Ace2016> is it just me or does dominik_ only have one repo enabled?
[09:33] <trpr> Ace2016: i think the addresses are invalid now, and some program commented them out
[09:33] <dominik_> Ace2016: that is the default I have on the old installation and I got updates before it stopped updating
[09:33] <usagi__> looks like only one rest are commented
[09:33] <Ace2016> trpr: well i can go to the urls
[09:33] <petr> gn
[09:34] <Ace2016> hm
[09:34] <trpr> i am just working off of the comment in the file itself. # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[09:34] <usagi__> hmmmm
[09:34] <BluesKaj> yes binks , you mean scratch i hope ... I emailed the link to my kids
[09:35] <Ace2016> could have been any installer, i'd try uncommenting them and reloading, might work, might not
[09:35] <Emess> iv got a windows box with wifi and i need to share that connection with kubuntu over lan, anyway to do that? kubuntu currently has no internet connection
[09:35] <BluesKaj> stevec_, congrats
[09:35] <stevec_> BluesKaj: thanks! amazing how much you miss it!
[09:36] <athlon64_> whitch is the kernel module confiration at Kubuntu?
[09:36] <trpr> dominik_: try what Ace2016 suggested. uncomment (remove the preceding #) the entries.. might also try adding ... deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted
[09:36] <trpr> dominik_: test changes to the file w/ sudo apt-get update
[09:37] <Ace2016> athlon64_: lsmod shows loaded modules, sudo morprobe nvidia, will load nvidia, sudo rmmod nvidia will unload it, nvidia was used as an example since its the only module i know
[09:37] <binks_> BluesKaj: need to get in bath then im gonna try installing it see what its like i may also look into building a small robot with them and using linux embedded
[09:37] <dominik_> ok
[09:38] <BluesKaj> cool binks_ :)
[09:38] <lgl> galera boa noite
[09:38] <LjL> !pt
[09:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:38] <binks_> ill let you no how i get on
[09:38] <lgl> qual sua duvida amigo?
[09:38] <LjL> !pt | lgl
[09:38] <ubotu> lgl: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:38] <dominik_> trpr: how do I test changes to the file w/ sudo apt-get update?
[09:39] <lgl> algum brasileiro na area?
[09:39] <trpr> dominik_: it shouldn
[09:39] <trpr> dominik_: it shouldn't hang anymore
[09:39] <trpr> dominik_: or at least, it should update the sources we played with
[09:40] <dominik_> trpr: sorry, I still don't understand how to test changes to the file w/ sudo apt-get update
[09:40] <trpr> dominik_:' sudo apt-get update' attempts to read the file and update the sources.. it will either succeed or fail
[09:41] <LjL> dominik_: and i don't understand what the question means
[09:41] <trpr> dominik_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:42] <dominik_> trpr: everytime I run that command, it says its trying to connect to the remote server, and after a while, it says it can not be reached and that it has timed off
[09:42] <trpr> dominik_: meaning the contents of that file are no good OR you have no internet connection OR some firewall is blocking you
[09:42] <trpr> probably a few more ORs to boot
[09:43] <dominik_> but I can browse the web, and am talking to you guys from the same computer
[09:43] <trpr> that makes me think the sources listed in that file are no good
[09:43] <dominik_> ...there's internet connection on the computer
[09:44] <trpr> dominik_: see that url i posted. there is an example sources.list file right there that looks pretty valid
[09:47] <dominik_> trpr: ok, will try it now
[09:48] <anthony__> is the interface in kubuntu vector based?
[09:48] <isaac_> hola
[09:48] <isaac_> hi
[09:51] <MinceR> i've got a notebook and the display turns black after a few minutes of inactivity (it doesn't turn off -- the backlight is still on). i've turned off the screensaver and display/power saving
[09:51] <BluesKaj> anthony__, geez I hope so :)
[09:51] <MinceR> there's no other screensaver running and i've turned off power saving with xset
[09:52] <anthony__> BluesKay: lol excuse my ignorance im a linux newbie and started off with gnome..
[09:52] <MinceR> yet it still blanks -- how can i stop this?
[09:52] <anthony__> and im thinking of switching to kubuntu..
[09:52] <BluesKaj> anthony__, just kidding of course ...i have no idea what that means :)
[09:52] <athlon64_> Im trying to exec alsaconf command but i get the error:bash: alsaconf: command not found
[09:53] <anthony__> BluesKay: i mean like.. a bitmap vs a pdf.. zooming does not distort the quality.
[09:54] <trpr> anthony__: i don't think so. from what i am reading, it is planned. konqueror has a svg plugin but i don't think the entire interface is vector graphics
[09:55] <BluesKaj> anthony__, kubuntu can do most graphics stuff including bleeding edge , but not all games will run on it from the reports what i've seen
[09:55] <Small_Mac> is there some easy way to add icons for applications to the desktop
[09:56] <trpr> ie you can set your background to a vector graphic but i don't think the widgets themselves are using them
[09:56] <trpr> i dunno. hopefully someone will correct me ;)
[09:56] <BluesKaj> Small_Mac, in thr k-menu right click on the app you want ..and a dialog box will give the options
[09:56] <binks_> trpr: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/5757/1/
[09:57] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj thx alot
[09:57] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj is there some way to put the desktop icons in the kicker?
[09:58] <BluesKaj> ??
[09:58] <trpr> binks_: i think the question was if the interface used svg, not if it was possible to create/edit them. does qt currently use vector graphics? what about qt4?
[09:58] <njt88> hi fellas
[09:58] <njt88> so, I have an external  hdd that is formatted ntfs and i cant make the mofo mount#
[09:58] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj as in somehow make an icon in the k panel bar that links to say a folder that's currently on desktop, cuz i'd like no folder icon on desktop anyway =)
[09:58] <BluesKaj> k-menu=kicker Small_Mac
[09:59] <njt88> i have iuntsalled the ntfs configuration tool, but it still wont cooperate
[09:59] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj ah i meant the panel bar then, srry for the confusion
[10:00] <BluesKaj> yes the same way one puts an app on the desktop, there's a panel option too
[10:00] <binks_> trpr: yes i think it does >> http://www.digitalfanatics.org/qt4/articles/rc1.html
[10:00] <binks_> qt4 is the main reason im starting to learn c++
[10:01] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj cool thx
[10:01] <trpr> binks_: ah. neat. thanks for the articles.
[10:01] <binks_> njt88: what error you gettin
[10:01] <dominik_> bye guys...am fed up
[10:02] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj is there something similar for the folders that i create?
[10:02] <dominik_> i think I will stick with Windows
[10:02] <trpr> dominik_: thats your choice. sorry we couldn't fix your sources.list problem
[10:02] <BluesKaj> too bad dominik_ ...sorry to hear that :(
[10:02] <dominik_> trpr: thanks for your help
[10:03] <trpr> dominik_: np. i hope you give it another try sometime ;)
[10:03] <dominik_> I guess Linux is not for me
[10:03] <binks_> dominik_: dont give up so easy
[10:04] <dominik_> am just starring at the computer and can't make it work :(
[10:04] <dasnipa> dominik_: setup time takes the longest... but once you get everything working then you are golden
[10:04] <njt88> binks_thx for responding dude... if i try to manually mount it with sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external   it shoows up as a folder  and if i try to go into it i get You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/external
[10:04] <binks_> dominik_: that feeling is adictive i love it whats your problem
[10:04] <BluesKaj> yes Small_Mac , just like any other app , one can copy and paste to create a shortcut
[10:04] <dominik_> ..it feels very fustrating not to be able to install all the software I wanted to install and run
[10:05] <binks_> njt88: you need to get rid of the mount point first
[10:05] <BluesKaj> what software are referring to , dominik_ ?
[10:05] <binks_> dominik_: what you installing
[10:05] <binks_> dominik_: | repos
[10:05] <njt88> binks_  ok man.. so umount it?
[10:05] <binks_> njt88: yes
[10:05] <njt88> done
[10:06] <trpr> binks_: i think his sources.list is borked. apt-get update hangs forever. the file he posted to pastebin had mostly commented out sources w/ comments saying they couldn't be validated
[10:06] <njt88> binks_ then?
[10:06] <dominik_> I have been using windows over the years, and wanted to try out Linux by installing LAMP and do a small project with it, but..nope, it can't get any updates
[10:06] <binks_> dominik_: | !repos
[10:07] <BluesKaj> well , one can always delete the sourceslist and generate a new one that works
[10:07] <binks_> njt88: have you ot ntfs config tool installed
[10:07] <dominik_> binks_: it can not connect to update centers to download updates
[10:07] <binks_> dominik_: are you on dapper edgy of fiesty
[10:07] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj hmm, ok, a little confused =) but, so if i have a desktop folder right now, could i add a link to that folder onto the k panel bar, this is only a minor thing, don't worry about it if i'm being too confusing =)
[10:07] <dominik_> I can't download apache
[10:07] <binks_> dominik_: are you on a nat
[10:07] <binks_> ie internal lan
[10:08] <dominik_> am on Kubuntu 6.06 LTS
[10:08] <njt88> binks_  i do
[10:08] <BluesKaj> dunno Small_Mac , lemme try that ..hang on
[10:08] <dominik_> yes, I have a router
[10:08] <binks_> njt88: now run it it should pick up your ntfs drive
[10:08] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj thx alot
[10:09] <njt88> binks_ the top option of enable write support for internal device is greyed out and the enable write supprt for external device IS checked
[10:09] <binks_> dominik_: the prob i think is you need to add the default gate to a config file gis a sec i will try to remeber which one
[10:09] <binks_> njt88: thats right
[10:09] <dominik_> ..but it used to work before, but it stopped a few months back, I tried installing Linux on another machine yesterday, it still can't get updates or download programs
[10:09] <njt88> ok due... but then it wont auto mount#
[10:10] <binks_> njt88: ust a sec ill redo mine seee what happens
[10:10] <njt88> binks_ cool thx
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Small_Mac, just drag the folder into the panel and choose "add as file manager url"
[10:12] <binks_> njt88: did you go into kmenu sys settings advance discs and delete the ref to you ntfs drive
[10:12] <Small_Mac> BluesKaj omg wow, thx soo much, been looking for this for awhile, thx again =)
[10:12] <BluesKaj> hey np Small_Mac ...glad to help :)
[10:13] <Small_Mac> =)
[10:13] <njt88> binks_   ummm (???)
[10:14] <binks_> njt88: kmenu> system settings > advance tab> disk nd filesystem
[10:15] <njt88> binks_  ok dude  ... i am there, and am in the modify settings part... what now? :P
[10:15] <binks_> go into admin mode
[10:15] <njt88> binks_  yup
[10:15] <binks_> lower right
[10:15] <njt88> binks_ yup
[10:16] <binks_> njt88: ok is your ntfs drive listed and does it have a mount point
[10:16] <njt88> it is listed.  it does not appear to havbe a mount point
[10:17] <binks_> dominik_: not forgot you but ill deal with this first
[10:17] <JuJuBee_> Im using tar to backup my home dir to an external (FAT32) HD.  I need to split the tar, don't I (greater than 3GB data)?
[10:17] <binks_> hmm but still in ntfs-config you dont get the top option
[10:17] <JuJuBee_> What switch does that?
[10:18] <binks_> JuJuBee_: fat is 4gb
[10:18] <llutz> JuJuBee_: split splits
[10:18] <njt88> binks_   right
[10:18] <binks_> well have you rebooted last shot im afraid
[10:18] <binks_> !ntfs
[10:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:19] <JuJuBee_> Thought Fat was 2GB.
[10:19] <binks_> you have got fuse installed
[10:19] <njt88> binks_   i just enabled it  one sec dude
[10:19] <binks_> sorry fat32 is 4 gb
[10:21] <mark_> if I'm running kubuntu 64 is it a fair assumption that packages I install from apt-get are also 64bit (where applicable)?
[10:23] <JuJuBee_> !backup
[10:23] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:23] <fdoving> mark_: yes, all packages are 64bit in a 64bit install. usually.
[10:23] <BluesKaj> !Feisty-64bit
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feisty-64bit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <lars__> kennt jemand nen Dreamcast emulator fr Linux (sry wenn die Frage dumm war [binn Linux noob] 
[10:23] <fdoving> !de | lars__
[10:23] <mark_> fdoving: thank you
[10:23] <ubotu> lars__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:23] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu-64
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu-64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <mark_> I'm actually running a dual-boot configuration in order to compare Vista 64 (blah) and Kubuntu 64.  I just want to be sure I'm comparing "apples to apples"
[10:25] <binks_> dominik_: do you want to try my fiesty sources list
[10:25] <BluesKaj> it's not possible linux and windows ain't apple vs apples ..it's apples & oranges
[10:25] <fdoving> or apples vs. motorbikes :)
[10:26] <BluesKaj> or gawd forbis even macOSX
[10:26] <JuJuBee_> binks_ : my home dir is over 11GB...
[10:26] <binks_> BluesKaj: more like apples and sour grapes lol
[10:26] <JuJuBee_> Just checked...
[10:26] <mark_> BluesKaj: as much as I can compare two different OS that both leverage 64bit architechure
[10:26] <binks_> JuJuBee_: nice so you need to split then ive not done it
[10:27] <BluesKaj> hehe binks_
[10:27] <mag_> Hello could you help me eith wine please !
[10:27] <binks_> !wine
[10:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:27] <BluesKaj> leverage , interesting description for OS's
[10:27] <mark_> BluesKaj: I would not, for instance, install Vista 64 and compare it to Kubuntu 32, nor visa versa.  I'm a linux convert, don't get me wrong.  I just want a system in my office I can point to and say "see, this is how you compare these two platforms"
[10:28] <binks_> mark_: i see what your doin its nice to to see them running and the differences
[10:28] <BluesKaj> hmmm mark , ok , but the use of thew word apples is unfortunate for those who are mac lovers :)
[10:29] <njt88> binks_  ok, it is now mounted,  but not with writepermissions even though it is checked off in the advanced part
[10:29] <JuJuBee_> binks_ : found this...# tar -cjvp . | split -b 1024m - /mnt/backup/backup.tar.bz2.
[10:29] <mark_> binks_: and I like to think in fairness since they are the same architechure and the same hardware, the differences in performance ought to be obviously software related.  I'm eager to install Beryl so I can compare it to Aero.. though to be honest I don't think Aero will run on this box without another 1/2gig of RAM
[10:29] <JuJuBee_> Just what I needed...
[10:29] <binks_> njt88: sudo chmod -r 777 /mnt/point
[10:30] <BluesKaj> njt88, binks_ ..may i interject here , perhaps a ntfs-config install might help
[10:30] <njt88> binks_  sorted dude.   you're a star
[10:30] <njt88> BluesKaj: thats what i did
[10:30] <njt88> thx guys!!!!
[10:30] <binks_> BluesKaj: its not playing
[10:30] <njt88> you are all a credit to foss!!!
[10:31] <binks_> dominik_: read this thred  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435985&highlight=repos+dns
[10:31] <BluesKaj> binks_ , not playing ?
[10:32] <binks_> BluesKaj: ntfs-config woulnt work i had to do it old way too
[10:32] <binks_> its a bit buggy if you already mounted drive b4
[10:32] <BluesKaj> oh ok
[10:34] <BluesKaj> it's just that i have my windows partition mounted and read & writeable but it's always mounted /enabled and i'd like it to mount when I want access
[10:34] <BluesKaj> binks_ only when I want access
[10:38] <usagi__> my kubuntu64 install stopped at 85% the disk is fine it just stopped. Any ideas?
[10:39] <PhinnFort> !ntfs
[10:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:39] <PhinnFort> !ntfs-3g
[10:39] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[10:44] <binks_> PhinnFort: install ntfs-config
[10:44] <PhinnFort> binks_: didn't do me much good
[10:44] <PhinnFort> I
[10:44] <PhinnFort> 'm trying to access an external drive
[10:44] <binks_> whats happening
[10:44] <PhinnFort> but when I'm trying to access it, hald won't accept my UID (1000)
[10:44] <PhinnFort> or so Dolphin tells me
[10:44] <binks_> !uid
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <PhinnFort> and the ntfs-3g package, doesn't seem to have ntfs3g-mount
[10:45] <binks_> !fuse
[10:45] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:45] <binks_> i dont have an exsternal drive sorry
[10:45] <PhinnFort> found it, it just wasn't executable by my user
[10:46] <binks_> :) another happy customer
[10:46] <PhinnFort> ;)
[10:46] <PhinnFort> well, not yet
[10:46] <PhinnFort> but now I have the tools, at least
[10:47] <PhinnFort> argh... the disk wasn't ejected cleanly
[10:48] <njt88> binks_    thx dude.  totally 100% sorted.  even after a full reboot.  :D:D:D
[10:48] <njt88> ltr!!!
[10:49] <PhinnFort> ah... it's moving files now...
[10:49] <PhinnFort> what a good feeling
[10:49] <PhinnFort> awfully slow, though
[10:50] <binks_> slow better than no :0
[10:51] <PhinnFort> I guess;)
[10:51] <PhinnFort> it actually isn't that slow either, it's just that "mv" doesn't show a progress bar or anything
[10:51] <mark_> quick; what's the CLI web browser called?
[10:51] <PhinnFort> markl
[10:51] <PhinnFort> mark_: links
[10:51] <PhinnFort> Beer load [  \                  ]  12%
[10:51] <PhinnFort> Beer load [  \                  ]  13%
[10:51] <PhinnFort> sorry:P
[10:52] <mark_> Phthanks
[10:52] <mark_> PhinnFort: thanks
[10:52] <PhinnFort> yw
[10:52] <PhinnFort> darn those with similar nicknames
[10:52] <binks_> PhinnFort: looool
[10:52] <PhinnFort> :P
[10:52] <angasule> which MSN clients can check who has you blocked? I think gaim can do it? can kopete? how?
[10:52] <PhinnFort> angasule: none, afaik
[10:53] <PhinnFort> angasule: not anymore, at least
[10:53] <angasule> PhinnFort: bummer
[10:53] <PhinnFort> angasule: they changed something in how you blocked people, and now it doesn't work anymore
[10:53] <angasule> oh? they finally fixed it so it's serverside only?
[10:53] <PhinnFort> something like that
[10:53] <angasule> ah, good, I guess
[10:53] <binks_> kopete s by far my fav
[10:53] <PhinnFort> same here;)
[10:55] <angasule> yeah, kopete is the best, but I had to check for that and I remembered gaim doing it
[10:55] <PhinnFort> <3 Kopete <3 all the way
[10:56] <christian__> Hallo
[10:57] <PhinnFort> hallo
[10:57] <PhinnFort> !hi | christian__
[10:57] <ubotu> christian__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:59] <Small_Mac> is there some way to configure the universal sidebar so that its full length does not extend to the bottom of the screen, and so that i can shrink it and have it align in the middle on the left side
[11:05] <binks_> nn all
[11:11] <Small_Mac> is there someway to configure the kubuntu universal sidebar to shrink its panel length?
[11:12] <rodrigo> ola
[11:12] <rodrigo> alguien que hable ezpanol
[11:12] <rodrigo> _
[11:12] <angasule> !es
[11:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:12] <rodrigo> okey
[11:14] <MinceR> bye
[11:15] <Small_Mac> is there someway to configure the kubuntu universal sidebar to shrink its panel length?
[11:15] <jujimufu> I have downloaded gnome-bluetooth, bluez, gammu and wammu, and I have set up gammurc to have a pin, namely 5432. But when I run wammu and it detects my phone, on my phone I am asked whether I want a connection with the computer. I say yes, and it asks for a password. I put the password I have pre-arranged, but it says "connection failed". Any ideas?
[11:20] <Yorokobi> Does Konqueror have an scp hook (similar to smb:///) ?
[11:25] <trpr> Yorokobi: i think its fish://
[11:26] <Yorokobi> trpr, yup. Thanks.
[11:37] <ferox> does anyone know how to enable/disable kde system tray?
[11:37] <GrahamA> Remove it?
[11:38] <see-g> ferox: my guess: right-click on a free area of the kicker, -> remove from panel -> applet -> system tray
[11:38] <GrahamA> Yeah.
[11:38] <see-g> (sometimes you have to go into the "panel menu" first)
[11:39] <GrahamA> Also you can't do it when panels are locked.
[11:39] <vlt|home> Hello. Does anyone know what file format ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konq_history is? -- Doesn't really look very XML ;-)
[11:39] <see-g> ...and does anyone here know how to read a Palm Pilot-database on my comp?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[11:39] <freddi> moin hab mal ne kurze frage wei jemand wie man so ein java sachen startet ubuntu
[11:40] <see-g> (I just got a database with some texts I'd need to read but don't have a Palm Pilot to read it on)
[11:40] <see-g> freddi: you've hit the english-speaking kubuntuchannel ;) try #kubuntu-de
[11:40] <see-g> freddi: versuch's mal mit java <dein Programm>?
[11:40] <freddi> ok thank you man
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> does anyone use mail-notification
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> or can suggest an alternative?
[11:43] <ferox> see-g: are u able to do that?
[11:43] <GrahamA> ActionParsnip: Apparently not.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> GrahamA: oh well
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> I just want email so that when i minimise it it doesnt sits out of the way like Outllok does
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Outlook
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> so i get continual email notifications
[11:44] <ferox> see-g: i'm a stupid newbie
[11:45] <ferox> i did it
[11:45] <NotFaint> Hey, I know how there's stuff like lspci and whatever else; does anybody know of a command I can use to get serial numbers of hard drives?
[11:45] <see-g> ferox: congratulations :)
[11:45] <ferox> i founded my systray :)
[11:45] <NotFaint> Er not serials but models, you know -- WD800BBQLOL etc
[11:47] <see-g> NotFaint: maybe hdparm -i (your device) is what you are looking for
[11:48] <see-g> you'll probably have to sudo it
[11:48] <NotFaint> see-g: I'll give it a shot, thanks.
[11:48] <NotFaint> see-g: hah, weird, that just gave me the parameter list, but in that list is exactly what I typed
[11:48] <NotFaint> oh duh heh gotta have device
[11:49] <gdiebel> NotFaint: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda (substitute device)
[11:49] <see-g> sudo hdparm -i /dev/hda would be a basic thing ;)
[11:49] <NotFaint> yeah, got it, running slow today
[11:49] <NotFaint> found what I wanted exactly, thanks all
[11:50] <NotFaint> back to work I go :P
[11:50] <see-g> another way to find that information would be 1) take a screwdriver b) open your computer's case c) pull out the hdd you're looking for d) read the label e) put it back together
[11:51] <Small_Mac> how configurable is the kde universal sidebar, can i shrink its length?
[11:51] <see-g> goodness me, I'm stupid to stick to having such a list in 1 2 3 4 5 or a b c d e...
[11:51] <see-g> add a "too" to that line
[11:52] <jthomas> Small_Mac: sure; right click it, configure.  Pick the sidebar from the drop-down at the top, and configure away...
[11:52] <jthomas> Small_Mac: maybe not!  this is the first i've used it, so i just assumed so.  My mistake.
[11:54] <Small_Mac> jthomas o yeah np at all thx for the suggestions, i first used it today too =)
[11:55] <jthomas> i just added a new Panel to auto-hide on the left and only hold the QuickLauncher and only be as big as the number of apps requires.  Kinda like the OSX launcher thing, but no zooming :(  but its better since it hides, and it update as i use software.  Very awesome, i am really into it.  Why isn't KDE/Kubuntu set up with a bit more zazz like thse types of things?
[11:55] <jthomas> the default Kubuntu is very boring, and too many people are afraid of computers to really try to change much.  They get stuck with boring forever!
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: KUbuntu has a very clean look
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: I like it
[11:59] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: the purple and grey?  i don't... but i guess thats part of why linux rocks, so much to choose from and customize...
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: I have KDE blue, the ultramarine theme for eryl
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> *Beryl
[12:00] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: so you change it too.  meaning the default bores you.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: but yes it is very customisable
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: some folk prefer very basic Windows Managers to increase speed
[12:00] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: of course it is, but why not try to distinguish it a bit from all the other KDEs out there?
[12:01] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: i get that, but they wouldn't use KDE then
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: I just check my mail and browse the web a little, I dont hover on my PC loads. I use KUbuntu cos its easy to use and I dont have to worry about all these Windows viri
[12:02] <jthomas> i just think that too many KDEs look similar.  If Kubuntu wants to stand out, a bit more visual bling would be good.
[12:02] <illriginal> Anyone know of a P2P program (Not Torrent) that is for videos only or has videos to download?
[12:02] <jthomas> DemocracyPlayer
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: If you want a sweet wallpaper for free hit http://www.vladstudio.com
[12:02] <jthomas> illriginal: Democracy player, just renamed Miro
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> its got some straight banging pics
[12:02] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: I'll check it, thanks!
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: do you use email-notification
[12:03] <illriginal> jthomas, is that a player? Or a client that I can use to download videos?
[12:04] <jthomas> illriginal: both
[12:04] <illriginal> so i should use sdo apt-get install Miro?
[12:04] <illriginal> sudo*
[12:04] <jthomas> illriginal: it does RSS feeds, torrents, Google Video stuff, downloads, playes, saves, updates.... its awesome
[12:05] <illriginal> nice
[12:05] <jthomas> illriginal: i don' think it is named Miro in the repos yet, that just happened today.  Use Adept to look for Democracy, or check Google for the website
[12:05] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: i use Gajim for chatting with Google Gmail, and it tells me if i have emails
[12:06] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: but generally, not really.  i always have emails :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> fair point :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> hmm idea
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> jthomas: thanks man :)
[12:06] <jthomas> ActionParsnip: yep!
[12:07] <sercik> ActionParsnip: what do you think about my desktop? Is kubuntu!! http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1yh9.png
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> sercik: just checking, my connection is slow today for some weird reason
[12:10] <sercik> no problem i'm happy that you check it!
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> sercik: looks nicee man'
[12:14] <sercik> thank you!
[12:14] <sercik> i have been inspired by linuxmint!