[09:01] <carlos> morning
[09:04] <poolie> hi
[09:14] <jamesh> spiv, thumper, BjornT: ping? (reviewers meeting)
[09:14] <thumper> pong
[09:15] <spiv> pong
[09:15] <jamesh> ah.  BjornT is on a sprint, so is probably not really here.
[09:16] <jamesh> == Agenda ==
[09:16] <jamesh>  * Roll call
[09:16] <jamesh>  * Next meeting
[09:16] <jamesh>  * Queue status.
[09:17] <jamesh> should we try and make the usual 06:00 UTC next week?
[09:17] <thumper> yes please
[09:17] <thumper> it's bath time :)
[09:18] <spiv> Yeah.
[09:18] <jamesh> okay.  I've just allocated all the branches (except for adeuring's one, which had a bad URL -- I'll allocate it after the meeting)
[09:19] <jamesh> we've got 5 branches in the red, but one appears to have been merged
[09:19] <jamesh> one of the others is mpt's branch that SteveA needs to review
[09:19] <thumper> I think there is something wrong with the red algorithm
[09:19] <jamesh> thumper: oh?
[09:19] <thumper> I got two assigned to me on Thursday afternoon
[09:20] <thumper> which should have made Friday 1, Monday 2, and Tue 3
[09:20] <thumper> but they were red today
[09:20] <jamesh> thumper: the age does not depend on when it gets assigned to you -- it depends on when it was put up for review
[09:20] <spiv> thumper: it's not about when it's assigned, it's about when it's queued in the first place.
[09:20] <thumper> damn
[09:20] <thumper> ok
[09:20] <jamesh> i.e. we are aiming at a 48 hour turn around from when a review was requested, rather than from when it was allocated
[09:21] <thumper> ok
[09:21] <jamesh> of course, don't burn yourself out if the branches get allocated late
[09:22] <spiv> One of the red branches is assigned to me.  I'm doing that at the moment, and I've checked with jml that it's not urgent for him (it's part of a larger set of work he's still doing).
[09:22] <jamesh> okay.
[09:22] <jamesh> we've the other two red branches are on stub's and salgado's queues.
[09:23] <jamesh> we've got 14 branches that are still within the 2 work-day window, most of which I've just allocated
[09:23] <jamesh> so check your queues.
[09:24] <jamesh> any other business to cover?
[09:24] <thumper> not from me
[09:25] <thumper> spiv: you have two reviews from me to glance over
[09:25] <spiv> thumper: yep
[09:25] <spiv> thumper: I haven't forgotten, but you're welcome to nag anyway :)
[09:26] <jamesh> okay.  I guess that's the end of the meeting then.
[09:26] <thumper> thanks jamesh
[09:26] <thumper> spiv: it isn't as bad now given that I send the provisional review through
[10:30] <ripl> hi
[10:32] <ripl> i would be curious to know more about how launchpad integrates bug related information of other projects like debian, fedora, gentoo etc. into its bug tracking system
[10:32] <ripl> are there any articles out there?
[10:36] <jamesh> ripl: hi
[10:36] <jamesh> ripl: currently we have the ability to link a Launchpad bug to a bug in a remote bug tracker
[10:37] <jamesh> for certain bug tracker types, we will monitor the status of the remote bug and mirror it in Launchpad
[10:37] <ripl> that is kind of a work in progress right now?
[10:37] <jamesh> ripl: for example, the following bug is linked to the equivalent bugs in the Debian and Mozilla bug trackers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/37828
[10:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 37828 in firefox "Text rendered incorrectly in presence of ligatures and justified text" [Medium,In progress]   - Assigned to Mozilla Bugs (mozilla-bugs)
[10:38] <jamesh> the status of the "firefox (upstream)" task is automatically updated from bugzilla.mozilla.org, and the status of the "firefox (Debian)" task comes from bugs.debian.org
[10:39] <jamesh> we don't currently do anything like bug comment mirroring, but there are plans to investigate this.
[10:39] <ripl> ah, that is what i thought could be fascinating and very beneficial
[10:39] <ripl> but i was wondering how this could be solved technically
[10:40] <jamesh> what do you mean by "solved technically"?
[10:42] <ripl> jamesh, how the software decides about proper context and how the software decides how to classify information
[10:43] <jamesh> ripl: the bug linkages are set up manually
[10:44] <jamesh> i.e. someone either filed the remote bug or found an already filed bug, then added the task with a link to the remote bug
[10:44] <jamesh> along with comment mirroring, there is a plan to automatically file Ubuntu bugs based off new Debian bug reports
[10:45] <jamesh> on the theory that a bug found in the equivalent Debian package probably exists in the Ubuntu package
[10:45] <Fujitsu> Any ETA on that?
[10:45] <jamesh> which would lead to better linkage
[10:45] <jamesh> Fujitsu: not at present.
[10:46] <ripl> i see. but its not like the ubuntu dude who is responsible for the firefox package checks the bug tracker of debian, the bug tracker of fedora, the bug tracker of gentoo, etc. and organizes cooperation with upstream?
[10:46] <jamesh> we used to have something like this back when we were using bugzilla.ubuntu.com, actually
[10:46] <jamesh> ripl: some might do so, some might not do so.
[10:46] <ripl> ah, ok
[10:47] <jamesh> at the moment, Launchpad is only providing tools to help the developer after they've discovered the relevant bug report
[10:47] <Fujitsu> Most people who look at Ubuntu bugs will scan over Debian bugs in the same package and link them.
[10:55] <jamesh> hi bolsh
[10:55] <jamesh> or dneary
[11:01] <dneary> hola
[11:01] <dneary> jamesh: You only have one nick?
[11:01] <jamesh> yeah
[11:01] <dneary> Like you, I guess :)
[11:02] <jamesh> I wasn't imaginative enough to pick an unguessable nickname when I started using IRC
[11:05] <Hobbsee> just dont change it :P
[11:05] <Hobbsee> else we'll just all get confused
[11:07] <ripl> i change my nick every few days and if i start to talk about some ideas all people are like "oh this must be paddy"
[11:08] <Spads> my name is nick, so you're all triggering my highlighting 
[11:08] <jamesh> maybe you should change your name to spads then
[11:08] <jamesh> kill two birds with one stone
[11:09] <Spads> jamesh: that'd be a lot of work, since I'm a foreigner in this country
[11:10] <ripl> Spads, you are Nick but your realname field in your client says you are Lex?
[11:10] <ripl> are you under cover like me? :P
[11:10] <jamesh> ripl: it makes sense if you've seen him.
[11:10] <Spads> haha
[11:11] <Hobbsee> people understood who i was, that way..
[11:11] <Spads> https://launchpad.net/~nick-moffitt
[11:11] <ripl> Hobbsee, like Catspaw who works at google. most people know her by her nick :D
[11:12] <Hobbsee> heh
[11:14] <ripl> Spads, you look cuddly on that picture :P
[11:14] <Hobbsee> ripl: he probably bites
[11:15] <Spads> ripl: a friend of mine gimped the spider jerusalem props on (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=spider+jerusalem)
[11:17] <ripl> Spads, cool story :)
[11:18] <Hobbsee> ripl: was no specific hint, as such.
[11:18] <ripl> :P
[11:19] <Hobbsee> which is half related to that topic, i guess.
[01:31] <carlos> danilos: ping
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118766 in launchpad "Mirror prober incorrectly disables functioning release mirrors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118766
[01:59] <ubotu> New bug: #118767 in rosetta "source package list of templates shown when translations are disabled" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118767
[02:14] <cprov> morning folks
[02:14] <Hobbsee> hi cprov 
[02:15] <cprov> Hobbsee: hi there, how is it going ?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> cprov: the internet is breaking
[02:18] <Hobbsee> cprov: 96% packet loss is fun, when you're trying to upload to bzr and such!
[02:18] <cprov> Hobbsee: that's bad ... I wish you luck.
[02:19] <Hobbsee> hehe, thankyou
[02:19] <Hobbsee> cprov: i'm now ssh'ing into another guy's machine, and ircing that way
[02:19] <Hobbsee> it's hell trying to get logs, when your connection keeps dying, obviously
[02:21] <Hobbsee> ooh, 98% now.
[02:22] <Hobbsee> special :)
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118776 in launchpad-answers "Question listing for Person is broken in rocketfuel" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118776
[03:42] <Hobbsee> morning kiko!
[03:42] <kiko> hi Hobbsee 
[03:47] <Odd_Bloke> When attaching files to bugs, what does the 'is a patch' checkbox do, and will it cause problems/be to my advantage if I mark bzr bundles as such?
[03:47] <pochu> Odd_Bloke: that's for the advanced search funcion 'Search bugs with a patch'
[03:48] <Odd_Bloke> pochu: OK.  So it doesn't affect presentation of the file in any way?
[03:48] <pochu> No, it doesn't.
[03:48] <Odd_Bloke> OK, probably safe to do then.
[03:49] <Odd_Bloke> pochu: Thanks!
[03:49] <pochu> No problem :)
[04:16] <Odd_Bloke> I'm setting up a branch on Launchpad to mirror one in my own webspace.  It currently reads 'This branch has not been mirrored yet.' under Recent Revisions.  If the mirroring fails, will this message change to reflect that?
[04:18] <cypherbios> Odd_Bloke: usually it changes to something like "sync failed" when it fails
[04:19] <Odd_Bloke> OK, that's good to know.
[04:29] <mdamt> How to change project and teams name in LP?
[04:29] <salgado> mdamt, if you're the project owner or a team admin, there should be a link for that on the top-left menu
[04:30] <mdamt> My project changes it's name :(
[04:30] <kiko> mdamt, it happens to the best -- phoenix became firefox!
[04:30] <mdamt> :-)
[04:30] <mdamt> salgado: In "Change details"?
[04:31] <mdamt> Can't find the field to rename. Only the Display name can be changed.
[04:35] <mdamt> Found it for the team.
[04:35] <mdamt> Thanks anyway. Gtg.
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118796 in launchpad-bazaar "Can assign a branch to someone without their approval" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118796
[06:31] <gnomefreak> is there sync issues today with branches?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> i saw someone mention it earlier today and now sftp has the revisions that were made but http does not.
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118805 in soyuz "PPA upload notification need to be customized" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118805
[06:52] <bdmurray> hello, I was wondering if there is a process for reporting bug spam.
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118807 in soyuz "PPA build failure notifications need customization" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118807
[07:47] <Odd_Bloke> How long should I expect between setting a branch up as a mirror and the mirroring actually happening?
[08:48] <carlos> cheers
[10:26] <ec1> Hi there.
[10:26] <ec1> Any rosetta expert around with a little bit of spare time ?
[10:26] <HampusW> hi ec1 =)
[10:27] <beuno> ec1: what can we help you with?
[10:28] <ec1> hello beuno
[10:29] <ec1> beuno : is there some convention for the 2 letter code of brazilian ?
[10:29] <ec1> beuno : it is some special portuguese, 
[10:29] <Kmos> ec1: it's not the original one
[10:29] <ec1> beuno : both use pt but we differentiate them in our app.
[10:29] <Kmos> Portuguese (Portugal) is the real one
[10:30] <ec1> kmos : ok but how do we name our po files ?
[10:30] <Kmos> pt_BR.po
[10:30] <phanatic> pt_BR.po i guess
[10:30] <Kmos> :)
[10:30] <ec1> Thanks, that makes sense
[10:32] <ec1> Second question : how long does it usually take to import files in rosetta once they have been approved ?
[10:33] <ec1> They are stuck in the pipe for 3 days, do i need to worry, or is it usual ?
[10:33] <ec1> https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=products&status=APPROVED&type=all
[10:33] <ec1> (wubi files)
[10:38] <ec1> Another question : is there a standard for the naming of the po files we make outside rosetta, appart the 2 letter code ?
[10:38] <ec1> is there some doc i should read ?
[10:42] <Kmos> ec1: you must talk about that with carlos
[10:43] <ec1> kmos : ok
[10:52] <popey> can someone please "host popey.com" from the data centre where planet.ubuntu.com resdies?
[10:53] <popey> should be 212.13.194.80, but i suspect it is resolving to the old ip of 212.13.198.80 which is no longer valid and as such my blog is not being picked up
[10:57] <Kmos> kmos@bash:~$ host popey.com
[10:57] <Kmos> popey.com has address 212.13.194.80
[10:57] <popey> thanks 
[10:57] <Kmos> from my ISP :)
[10:57] <Kmos> resolves to the same ip
[10:57] <popey> not from the dc where p.u.c is?
[10:57] <Kmos> no
[10:57] <Kmos> i don't have access to that
[10:58] <popey> this happened last time I chaned IP. it seems to cache the IP for ages
[10:58] <Kmos> it takes 24/48 hours
[10:58] <popey> it changed weeks ago
[10:58] <Kmos> so that's strange
[10:58] <popey> but the old IP has only just been shutdown
[10:59] <Kmos> try #canonical-sysadmins
[10:59] <Kmos> try #ubuntu-sysadmins
[10:59] <Kmos> ups
[10:59] <Kmos> first channel
[10:59] <jordi> jesus
[10:59] <popey> ah yes
[11:00] <jordi> I get more launchpad email than my poor processor can process through spamd
[11:18] <thumper> morning
[11:18] <ajmitch> hi thumper 
[11:18] <thumper> morning ajmitch 
[11:29] <aa_> hi, did you stop supporting the subversion code registration?
[11:31] <thumper> aa_: what do you mean exactly?
[11:31] <thumper> code imports?
[11:32] <aa_> when I first started using launchpad "branches" could be cvs, svn or bzr
[11:32] <aa_> I can't quite remember the rest
[11:32] <aa_> obviously only bzr branches would be hosted
[11:32] <thumper> aa_: branches have always been bzr, but launchpad can import cvs and svn to make bzr branches
[11:33] <aa_> oh
[11:34] <aa_> thumper: does it still do the import thing?
[11:37] <thumper> aa_: yes it does
[11:37] <aa_> thumper: and will it keep it up to date?
[11:37] <thumper> I was just hunting for the wiki docs, but couldn't find them
[11:38] <thumper> yes, once the code import is set up and working, it gets updated at least daily
[11:38] <aa_> cool, I'll work it out thanks
[11:39] <thumper> aa_: at the moment it isn't exactly intuitive as to where to set these details up, but it is part of the details for a release series of a project
[11:41] <aa_> thumper: thanks I found it
[12:00] <bdmurray> hello?
[12:07] <thumper> bdmurray: hello!