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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | Get involved! http://www.mdke.org/?p=67 | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda
=== Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by crimsun at Sat Dec 30 01:13:50 2006
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | Get involved! http://www.mdke.org/?p=67 | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda
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nixternalhiya mdke08:52
mdkemorning08:55
Madpilotmorning09:05
mdkehow's it going?09:05
Madpilotnixternal, why exactly does the bot claim you're a Vista-lover? Got to be a good story there...09:05
nixternalask hobbsee and crimsun09:06
Madpilotheh. Why did I figure Hobbsee would be involved somehow?09:06
nixternalshe would be the one guilty of adding it, and crimsun would be the one guilty of starting it09:08
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ubotuNew bug: #118741 in ubuntu-docs (main) "External links in stable docs should be under Ubuntu control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11874109:35
mdkehmm. *Click*09:38
Madpilotgood point in that bug report, actually09:38
mdkeisn't it just his point about updates to documentation, dressed up?09:39
mdkeand the second bug he cites is marked as fixed :)09:40
mdkeor maybe it's just one of those ideas that sounds a bit odd when you hear it but might work. I wonder how difficult it would be to implement09:44
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dasoriginalhello to everybody10:46
dasoriginal:-P10:47
dasoriginalis there nobody who wants to talk with an ubuntureo?10:49
dasoriginalbecause i wanna join the documentation group, making the funny screenshots to show newbies who ubuntu works!10:50
dasoriginalokay i don't know why nobody talks to me ...... is it forbidden to post in this chat? 8-)10:53
willvdlno it's just almost midnight :)10:56
nixternalno it isn't...4pm here :p10:56
nixternalhowdy dasoriginal!10:56
nixternalI would call our screenshots funny, because we might take offense to that ;p10:56
nixternalerr10:57
nixternals/would/wouldn't10:57
dasoriginaloh i don't think about user users local time10:57
dasoriginalother user local time i mean10:57
dasoriginalare there meetings here in next future?10:58
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nixternalnot scheduled at this time..but I am sure once we hit a couple of tribe releases we will10:59
nixternalhiya jono10:59
jonohey10:59
nixternalhow goes the busy man?10:59
dasoriginalso what should i do, by the way hi jono10:59
jonohey10:59
jonovery busy :)11:00
jonoover busy right now tbh11:00
nixternaldasoriginal: take a look at wiki pages, make changes and fixes as you see fit for beginners11:00
dasoriginalokay thats all? ;)11:00
nixternalthen you can download a copy of the doc repos and start by editing some DocBook/XML and creating patches and sending them to the doc team list11:00
nixternalI see you had a great time at LinuxTag there jono11:00
jononixternal: yeah, was a  blast :)11:00
jonoamazing show :)11:01
nixternalgood deal...maybe one of these days, after school is over...I can make the trek to a show or 2, or 3, or 4 :)11:01
jonohehe11:02
jonojust booked into another two this year11:02
nixternalya, that much travel would either drive me mad, or cause me to never do any work11:02
dasoriginaljono: i've seen your show at LinuxTag and now here i am! :D11:03
jonodasoriginal: awesome :)11:04
jonodasoriginal: you came here because of the talk?11:04
willvdljono, you're a legend!11:04
dasoriginalyes11:04
dasoriginali did it11:04
willvdlwe shall follow you everywhere! :)11:04
jonowow cool11:04
jonowillvdl: heh11:04
willvdlin fact, we're watching you... right...now11:05
j1mcthat is kind of spooky, willvdl11:05
dasoriginaljono: i really enjoy the whole day at LinuxTag, but after that i want to join the community11:06
willvdloh, wrong channel.11:06
willvdlJono did you join the .de stand or did you have your own?11:06
jonodasoriginal: wow, cool, my boss needs to know about this :P11:06
jonowillvdl: we had one funded by canonical11:07
dasoriginalof course tell your boss about it. :-Dis the first time that i visit a irc channel11:08
willvdlone things for sure, you must go to the eLA thing next year (in Ghana)11:08
nixternaljono: hurding cats or your new expanding ubuntu talk? need some source for BarCamp Chicago for a talk :)11:11
jononixternal: this is my new talk, Growing Ubuntu11:11
jonowillvdl: I should go?11:11
nixternaljono: do you have the presentation posted somewhere?11:12
willvdlit's a blast11:12
jononixternal: naa, the slides are pointless without the talk11:12
jononixternal: you can see the herding cats vid on youtube11:12
nixternalwell then, get to chicago in the next 2 weeks and talk ;p11:12
jonowillvdl: what kind of conf?11:12
jononixternal: haha11:12
jononixternal: hopefully I can get over there sometime11:12
willvdlelearning, vocational training, education11:13
nixternalwe will all pitch in 1 beer...that should be enough to have to toasted for the year11:13
nixternalor pissed for the year :)11:13
nixternalspeaking of education willvdl, I am currently working on a "Intro to Linux (distros)" for our local university11:14
willvdlreally? cool. what kind of info you putting in?11:14
nixternalwe are going to take the top 3 and run the students through an 8 week course teaching them how Linux is a viable replacement for Windows11:14
nixternalfirst week will cover installs (6 to 8 hours). and go on from there11:14
nixternalUbuntu, openSUSE, and Fedora look to be the big 3 we go over11:15
willvdlthat's a really good idea11:15
nixternalit was a pita, and one board removal to get someone to go "OK lets see this"11:15
willvdlyou making courseware?11:16
nixternalwe will start the coursware once the outline is complete and approved11:16
willvdl^^ is the most crupting thing I've heard all day :)11:16
willvdlcryptic rather11:16
nixternaland...it will be GPLd (version 3)11:16
dasoriginalokay i leave .... bye to everybody11:16
nixternalbye dasoriginal, have a good one11:17
willvdldasoriginal, ciao and welcome11:17
nixternalwillvdl: they booted me from a board meeting because I got upset with their definition of "teaching students creativity"11:17
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willvdlhow upset? :)11:17
nixternalI told them they are blocking their creativity by forcing them to use proprietary applications at school, in which they can't afford for home11:17
nixternaland provided them with viable solutions..and then they did the "well we can't support it"11:18
willvdlsigh11:18
nixternali.e. the linux distros...so I snapped and said you teach students year round how to do support, why can't they do it11:18
willvdla common theme11:18
nixternalreason for booting is I called the board a collection of idiots with a common goal, money in their pockets11:19
willvdlI believe the term is a "thicket of idiots"11:19
nixternalso I posted flyers in the school...at that point they said I might be on to something11:19
nixternalthicket would have gone over these idiots heads though :D11:19
j1mcflyers in the school about what?  about linux, or about the board being dumb?11:20
willvdlI was a t a conf recently11:20
willvdlwhere there was an OSS and OER track11:20
nixternallinux and how the board was tampering with their creativity and educational rights11:20
willvdlthe MC got ahead of himself and decided to leave a closing remark11:20
nixternal*drum roll*11:21
willvdlsaying,"well I wouldn't put linux in my aeroplane"11:21
nixternald'oh11:21
willvdlI almost wanted to tell him about Mir11:21
nixternalhehe11:21
nixternalUnited Airlines uses nothing but a UNIX based system for their aircraft with the help of Unisys11:21
willvdlbut should rather have bitched slapped him for stepping ove rhis professional bounds of leading a panel debate11:21
nixternaland their entire infrastructure is now Linux I believe..it used to be SCO when I worked there on a contract for Y2K11:22
nixternalI think MadPilot would know best on the type of embedded systems they use though11:22
willvdlthe aircontrol systems here are linux based11:22
nixternalO'Hare uses Sun Microsystems for everything11:23
nixternalall of their dummy terminals connect to an Enterprise 10k, well they did about 5+ years ago11:23
nixternalman, I love these Geico insurance commercials with the cavemen...I laugh everytime11:24
willvdlI love the outpost.com one with the hamster11:24
willvdland them wanting to tattoo the children's foreheads11:24
nixternalhahaha yes11:25
nixternaloutpost.com has some great commercials...I think I see them on the BBC the most..that and G4 media11:25
willvdlgotto nip out. I'm curious about your course though. specifically the fact that you want to include 3 distros11:26
willvdlbbl11:26
nixternallater, gotta get ready for school myself11:26
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