[08:52] <nixternal> hiya mdke
[08:55] <mdke> morning
[09:05] <Madpilot> morning
[09:05] <mdke> how's it going?
[09:05] <Madpilot> nixternal, why exactly does the bot claim you're a Vista-lover? Got to be a good story there...
[09:06] <nixternal> ask hobbsee and crimsun
[09:06] <Madpilot> heh. Why did I figure Hobbsee would be involved somehow?
[09:08] <nixternal> she would be the one guilty of adding it, and crimsun would be the one guilty of starting it
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118741 in ubuntu-docs (main) "External links in stable docs should be under Ubuntu control" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118741
[09:38] <mdke> hmm. *Click*
[09:38] <Madpilot> good point in that bug report, actually
[09:39] <mdke> isn't it just his point about updates to documentation, dressed up?
[09:40] <mdke> and the second bug he cites is marked as fixed :)
[09:44] <mdke> or maybe it's just one of those ideas that sounds a bit odd when you hear it but might work. I wonder how difficult it would be to implement
[10:46] <dasoriginal> hello to everybody
[10:47] <dasoriginal> :-P
[10:49] <dasoriginal> is there nobody who wants to talk with an ubuntureo?
[10:50] <dasoriginal> because i wanna join the documentation group, making the funny screenshots to show newbies who ubuntu works!
[10:53] <dasoriginal> okay i don't know why nobody talks to me ...... is it forbidden to post in this chat? 8-)
[10:56] <willvdl> no it's just almost midnight :)
[10:56] <nixternal> no it isn't...4pm here :p
[10:56] <nixternal> howdy dasoriginal!
[10:56] <nixternal> I would call our screenshots funny, because we might take offense to that ;p
[10:57] <nixternal> err
[10:57] <nixternal> s/would/wouldn't
[10:57] <dasoriginal> oh i don't think about user users local time
[10:57] <dasoriginal> other user local time i mean
[10:58] <dasoriginal> are there meetings here in next future?
[10:59] <nixternal> not scheduled at this time..but I am sure once we hit a couple of tribe releases we will
[10:59] <nixternal> hiya jono
[10:59] <jono> hey
[10:59] <nixternal> how goes the busy man?
[10:59] <dasoriginal> so what should i do, by the way hi jono
[10:59] <jono> hey
[11:00] <jono> very busy :)
[11:00] <jono> over busy right now tbh
[11:00] <nixternal> dasoriginal: take a look at wiki pages, make changes and fixes as you see fit for beginners
[11:00] <dasoriginal> okay thats all? ;)
[11:00] <nixternal> then you can download a copy of the doc repos and start by editing some DocBook/XML and creating patches and sending them to the doc team list
[11:00] <nixternal> I see you had a great time at LinuxTag there jono
[11:00] <jono> nixternal: yeah, was a  blast :)
[11:01] <jono> amazing show :)
[11:01] <nixternal> good deal...maybe one of these days, after school is over...I can make the trek to a show or 2, or 3, or 4 :)
[11:02] <jono> hehe
[11:02] <jono> just booked into another two this year
[11:02] <nixternal> ya, that much travel would either drive me mad, or cause me to never do any work
[11:03] <dasoriginal> jono: i've seen your show at LinuxTag and now here i am! :D
[11:04] <jono> dasoriginal: awesome :)
[11:04] <jono> dasoriginal: you came here because of the talk?
[11:04] <willvdl> jono, you're a legend!
[11:04] <dasoriginal> yes
[11:04] <dasoriginal> i did it
[11:04] <willvdl> we shall follow you everywhere! :)
[11:04] <jono> wow cool
[11:04] <jono> willvdl: heh
[11:05] <willvdl> in fact, we're watching you... right...now
[11:05] <j1mc> that is kind of spooky, willvdl
[11:06] <dasoriginal> jono: i really enjoy the whole day at LinuxTag, but after that i want to join the community
[11:06] <willvdl> oh, wrong channel.
[11:06] <willvdl> Jono did you join the .de stand or did you have your own?
[11:06] <jono> dasoriginal: wow, cool, my boss needs to know about this :P
[11:07] <jono> willvdl: we had one funded by canonical
[11:08] <dasoriginal> of course tell your boss about it. :-Dis the first time that i visit a irc channel
[11:08] <willvdl> one things for sure, you must go to the eLA thing next year (in Ghana)
[11:11] <nixternal> jono: hurding cats or your new expanding ubuntu talk? need some source for BarCamp Chicago for a talk :)
[11:11] <jono> nixternal: this is my new talk, Growing Ubuntu
[11:11] <jono> willvdl: I should go?
[11:12] <nixternal> jono: do you have the presentation posted somewhere?
[11:12] <willvdl> it's a blast
[11:12] <jono> nixternal: naa, the slides are pointless without the talk
[11:12] <jono> nixternal: you can see the herding cats vid on youtube
[11:12] <nixternal> well then, get to chicago in the next 2 weeks and talk ;p
[11:12] <jono> willvdl: what kind of conf?
[11:12] <jono> nixternal: haha
[11:12] <jono> nixternal: hopefully I can get over there sometime
[11:13] <willvdl> elearning, vocational training, education
[11:13] <nixternal> we will all pitch in 1 beer...that should be enough to have to toasted for the year
[11:13] <nixternal> or pissed for the year :)
[11:14] <nixternal> speaking of education willvdl, I am currently working on a "Intro to Linux (distros)" for our local university
[11:14] <willvdl> really? cool. what kind of info you putting in?
[11:14] <nixternal> we are going to take the top 3 and run the students through an 8 week course teaching them how Linux is a viable replacement for Windows
[11:14] <nixternal> first week will cover installs (6 to 8 hours). and go on from there
[11:15] <nixternal> Ubuntu, openSUSE, and Fedora look to be the big 3 we go over
[11:15] <willvdl> that's a really good idea
[11:15] <nixternal> it was a pita, and one board removal to get someone to go "OK lets see this"
[11:16] <willvdl> you making courseware?
[11:16] <nixternal> we will start the coursware once the outline is complete and approved
[11:16] <willvdl> ^^ is the most crupting thing I've heard all day :)
[11:16] <willvdl> cryptic rather
[11:16] <nixternal> and...it will be GPLd (version 3)
[11:16] <dasoriginal> okay i leave .... bye to everybody
[11:17] <nixternal> bye dasoriginal, have a good one
[11:17] <willvdl> dasoriginal, ciao and welcome
[11:17] <nixternal> willvdl: they booted me from a board meeting because I got upset with their definition of "teaching students creativity"
[11:17] <willvdl> how upset? :)
[11:17] <nixternal> I told them they are blocking their creativity by forcing them to use proprietary applications at school, in which they can't afford for home
[11:18] <nixternal> and provided them with viable solutions..and then they did the "well we can't support it"
[11:18] <willvdl> sigh
[11:18] <nixternal> i.e. the linux distros...so I snapped and said you teach students year round how to do support, why can't they do it
[11:18] <willvdl> a common theme
[11:19] <nixternal> reason for booting is I called the board a collection of idiots with a common goal, money in their pockets
[11:19] <willvdl> I believe the term is a "thicket of idiots"
[11:19] <nixternal> so I posted flyers in the school...at that point they said I might be on to something
[11:19] <nixternal> thicket would have gone over these idiots heads though :D
[11:20] <j1mc> flyers in the school about what?  about linux, or about the board being dumb?
[11:20] <willvdl> I was a t a conf recently
[11:20] <willvdl> where there was an OSS and OER track
[11:20] <nixternal> linux and how the board was tampering with their creativity and educational rights
[11:20] <willvdl> the MC got ahead of himself and decided to leave a closing remark
[11:21] <nixternal> *drum roll*
[11:21] <willvdl> saying,"well I wouldn't put linux in my aeroplane"
[11:21] <nixternal> d'oh
[11:21] <willvdl> I almost wanted to tell him about Mir
[11:21] <nixternal> hehe
[11:21] <nixternal> United Airlines uses nothing but a UNIX based system for their aircraft with the help of Unisys
[11:21] <willvdl> but should rather have bitched slapped him for stepping ove rhis professional bounds of leading a panel debate
[11:22] <nixternal> and their entire infrastructure is now Linux I believe..it used to be SCO when I worked there on a contract for Y2K
[11:22] <nixternal> I think MadPilot would know best on the type of embedded systems they use though
[11:22] <willvdl> the aircontrol systems here are linux based
[11:23] <nixternal> O'Hare uses Sun Microsystems for everything
[11:23] <nixternal> all of their dummy terminals connect to an Enterprise 10k, well they did about 5+ years ago
[11:24] <nixternal> man, I love these Geico insurance commercials with the cavemen...I laugh everytime
[11:24] <willvdl> I love the outpost.com one with the hamster
[11:24] <willvdl> and them wanting to tattoo the children's foreheads
[11:25] <nixternal> hahaha yes
[11:25] <nixternal> outpost.com has some great commercials...I think I see them on the BBC the most..that and G4 media
[11:26] <willvdl> gotto nip out. I'm curious about your course though. specifically the fact that you want to include 3 distros
[11:26] <willvdl> bbl
[11:26] <nixternal> later, gotta get ready for school myself