[12:39] <bdmurray> kylem: are you familiar with 53923?
[08:40] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <abogani> BenC: Ingo don't have released realtime-preempt patch for 2.6.22... What do you prefer that i should do? Try to adapt realtime-patch for 2.6.21 to 2.6.22 ? Or wait Ingo?
[09:02] <crimsun> I would do the latter.
[09:03] <crimsun> Ingo is familiar with the nuances.
[11:14] <opti> anyone awake?
[02:24] <abogani> BenC: Ingo don't have released realtime-preempt patch for 2.6.22 yet... What do you prefer that i should do? Try to adapt realtime-patch for 2.6.21 to 2.6.22 ? Or wait Ingo? crimsun already suggest me the latter...
[02:26] <BenC> is Ingo expected to work on getting it ready for 2.6.22 any time soon?
[02:26] <zul> heh you can go crazy like me :)
[02:27] <abogani> zul: :-)
[02:28] <abogani> BenC: Three times i asked it to Ingo without response. :-(
[02:28] <abogani> I obtained only the change of the two EXPORT_SYMBOL for closed video drivers...
[02:28] <BenC> abogani: you can wait for Ingo, but then you risk it not being ready in time to include for gutsy
[02:29] <BenC> honestly, I'd work on it myself, but I'm way too busy, and it would set a bad precedent for patches like this (who needs to work on it when Ben will do it out of frustration :)
[02:30] <zul> besides we dont want to make BenC go crazy..
[02:30] <zul> not yet alteast
[02:30] <abogani> i'm agree, zul 
[02:30] <abogani> :-)
[02:33] <abogani> BenC: I have already a simple adapt of the realtime-preempt 2.6.21.3-rt9 (lastest) against the updated gutsy git tree but i have a big problem between ide subsystem (drivers/ide/ide-probe.c) and hrtimer (kernel/timer.c) that i cn't resolve :-(
[02:34] <BenC> can you forward me your current diff + those conflicts?
[02:34] <BenC> if it's easy, I can get it out real quick
[02:36] <abogani> BenC: No conflicts and, IMHO, it's not easy to resolve...
[02:36] <abogani>  ide_generic_init() hang. set_current_state() inside msleep never return. A custom system that lives only in ram works! :-(
[02:37] <abogani> s/set_current_state/__set_current_state
[02:37] <BenC> Hmm, a problem with hi-res timers maybe?
[02:37] <BenC> maybe disable that for preempt kernel?
[02:37] <abogani> BenC: Can you remember me the lastest day for universe inclusion (for a -rt kernel) ?
[02:38] <BenC> end of June
[02:39] <abogani> BenC: Yes i think that is a problem with hrtimer changes by realtime-patch.
[02:41] <abogani> Ok i wait an other week .... 
[02:41] <abogani> Thanks BenC
[02:41] <BenC> np
[05:45] <tyyy> hi all
[05:45] <tyyy> can somebody help me?
[05:45] <tyyy> my system is freezing after a while but i dont knowe why
[05:57] <tyyy> hi all
[05:57] <tyyy> anybody there?
[06:09] <JanC> tyyy: probably a driver that crashes
[06:10] <JanC> you might try to search for bugs related to your hardware
[06:16] <tyyy> how?
[06:16] <tyyy> can i track this down what it is?
[06:16] <tyyy> wich driver
[06:20] <tyyy> can adept be the couse?
[06:20] <JanC> maybe, but first try searching the bug tracker for bugs that happen for other people with the same hardware as you have
[06:20] <tyyy> where?
[06:20] <tyyy> i have a sony vaio vgn-u70p
[06:21] <JanC> http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <tyyy> its a handhelp with touchscreen
[06:21] <JanC> wat wifi chip is in it?
[06:22] <tyyy> its working only with the ath driver
[06:22] <tyyy> prolly atheros
[06:23] <tyyy> if i look for vgn-u70p i dont get anything
[06:24] <JanC> I think looking for the hardware pieces in it or attached to it might be more useful
[06:27] <tyyy> nothing related to my machine
[06:27] <tyyy> so far
[06:27] <tyyy> seems like it is specific with my configuration
[06:28] <tyyy> is there any crash log?
[06:39] <JanC> you can try looking in the logs in /var/log
[07:28] <Keybuk> BenC: known problems with 3945?
[07:28] <BenC> Keybuk: nope, make sure you have lum, linux-image and lrm installed
[07:29] <Keybuk> I'm having to toggle the hardware switch to make it work
[07:29] <Keybuk> this could be an NM problem
[07:31] <BenC> weird, haven't had that issue with mine