=== sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] siretart: the problem is that some old uploads got unarchived [12:22] geser: yes, that was a mistake from my side, I said yesterday on irc === CarlFK [n=carl@adsl-75-57-187-38.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] geser: I accidentally reset all archived information while writing the auto-archive script :( [12:26] is it safe to archive them again? [12:26] yepp [12:26] I won't reset them again. it was an accident :( [12:27] good night! === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@ppp212-81.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-253-44-84.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando_ [n=fernando@189.0.212.31] has joined #ubuntu-motu === concept10 [n=concept1@ppp-70-253-44-84.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Showering] === pochu [n=emilio@51.Red-83-57-164.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xenon_ [n=xenon@cpe-86423.ip.primehome.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | Want to get involved with the MOTUs? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by persia at Sat May 26 10:02:18 2007 === #ubuntu-motu [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp [06:52] ok, Forums time! [06:52] oh? === Hobbsee raises an eyebrow at crimsun [06:53] yep, time for the daily support trawl [06:53] urgh [06:54] I just tell myself everything will be ok, and then I jump back into hell. [06:54] three hours later, I climb out, rinse, and go back to real-life work. [06:55] interestingly enough, yesterday's trawl has already uncovered two corner cases not fixed in ALSA 1.0.14, but we've got one of them fixed already. === Neonightmare [n=neonight@30.66.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Neonightmare [n=neonight@30.66.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:01] *yawn* morning [07:02] morning Nafallo [07:02] 7:02 and I'm awake.. [07:02] pm? :-P [07:02] am :-P [07:03] except we have 24h here ;-) [07:03] I got stuff to do today so... ;-) [07:04] and then I will be away again until friday morning ;-) === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crevette [n=crevette@man06-2-88-167-44-76.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thully [n=ubuntu@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === svschwartz [n=svschwar@217.147.21.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@2-178.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:07] `Battery may be invalid' to you too, g-p-m! === Shendar [n=shendar@89-24-4-101.4ginternet.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Shendar [n=shendar@89-24-4-101.4ginternet.cz] has left #ubuntu-motu [""] [08:10] haha === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:11] wb LaserJock === thully [n=ubuntu@dpc6746164142.direcpc.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-24-144.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-2-208.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-49-219-176.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@121.97.242.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === heyko [i=heyko@unaffiliated/heyko] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@adsl-69-209-68-46.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick_ [n=Ryan@adsl-76-193-22-155.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:33] how can i make pbuilder use packages i've build/installed locally to satisfy build deps? [09:34] please tell me the answer is easier than 'setup a custom repo' [09:34] pbuilder login --bindmounts /directory/with/debs [09:35] bashelier: I will upload tonite when I have access to my gpg key [09:35] setting up a custom repository is dead simple though [09:35] xD === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@51.Red-83-57-164.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asimon [n=asimon@dslb-084-058-253-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp167-203.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cbx33 [i=c2df514b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/linuxpreview.org/x-990abbfbb3f0b39d] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:06] hey guys....and nomachine NX experts here? === fredix [n=fredix@86.67.45.158] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:12] ping imbrandon === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.97.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SniperBeamer [n=sniperb@91.89.133.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nuu [n=neuro@85-18-14-28.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] Amaranth: may I suggest to use sbuild on a specially prepared (read: with your local packages installed) chroot? [10:28] cbx33: hardy, since it is non-free [10:29] well there is FreeNX [10:29] which isn't nomachine NX [10:29] which is in Seveas' repo === porthose_ [n=charliej@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:29] cbx33: you might have more look if you just asked what you want to ask ;) [10:29] ahh i see [10:29] ok [10:29] s/look/luck/ [10:29] the server is still non-free [10:29] ok [10:29] Amaranth: I thought the client was non-free [10:30] this is X, the thing on the client computer is the server :) [10:30] i was wondering if multiple people could watch the same NX session [10:30] AFAIU, Freenx provides a GPL'ed server, which can be used with the non-free-but-free-as-in-beer client from nomachine [10:30] while one person could control it [10:31] siretart: the the non-free bit is the server :) [10:31] it's a modified xfree86 [10:31] i think that's how it works anyway :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.97.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] Amaranth: they still call the thing which you use to login to the remote server "NX client" [10:32] and the last time I looked at it, the installation was still very scary [10:32] (2 weeks ago) [10:32] well /me got it up and running very easy with the seveas pacakge [10:33] i was just wondering if anyone knew about multiple viewings of the same session === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7799C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] hiya [10:41] dholbach!!! [10:41] hi Hobbsee [10:41] Hi dholbach === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp167-203.lns4.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] Evening dholbach, Hobbsee, geser. [10:42] Hi Fujitsu [10:42] hey Fujitsu Hobbsee geser dholbach [10:43] hi Fujitsu, cbx33 [10:43] Hi cbx33 [10:43] hi cbx33, hi Fujitsu [10:43] Hi cbx33, === H4wk_cz [n=david@3.138.broadband4.iol.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] Fujitsu: Incidentally, gnome-power-manager thinks that *my* battery is valid :). [10:43] RAOF: Valid, or invalid? [10:43] Fujitsu: Valid. [10:43] Aw. Damn. [10:44] And g-p-m is getting really cool. "5 mins until charged, Provides 2 hrs 10 min battery runtime" [10:44] I dare not unplug the power, or about 30 seconds later it decides that I need to shut down. [10:44] heheh [10:44] :) [10:44] Provides 25 minutes battery runtime! Yay! (I know I can get about 1:10 out of it at the moment) [10:44] It seems to do some crazy profiling thing. === icf7 [n=chatzill@WL-POOL04-24.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:45] And because I haven't run it down significantly with this new version it thinks the capacity is limited. [10:45] Yeah, it's not very accurate for me at the moment either. [10:45] The profiling graphs are a little odd. [10:45] I'd expect 3+ hours on a near full charge. Although I suppose that's less at 100% brightness. === Fujitsu runs the battery down now, to see if it helps the estimated time at all === RAOF tries the same. [10:46] Thanks for the notification that my battery is full as I unplug it, g-p-m. [10:57] really? Mine tells me that I can't suspend-to-*, and it takes 50 seconds for the session logout dialog to appear. [10:57] of course `sudo pmi action suspend` works just dandy, as does "hibernate"... [10:58] but that's why I love development branches! [10:58] crimsun: I don't bother to wait for the logout dialog to appear, and just flip to tty1 to shutdown from there. I didn't know it would eventually appear. [10:58] oh look, that's precisely what's being discussed in -devel [10:58] what a coincidence [10:58] Heh, yes. === bigon [i=bigon@imladris.bigon.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] Arrrgh === Fujitsu stabs g-p-m to death. [11:12] I have more than 0% remaining, thanks. [11:12] Nah, you just think you do. [11:12] Ah, the graph looks slightly more sane now. [11:12] Rather than dropping from 60% to 20% in about a minute, those points have now vanished and are heading up. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] Oh great, it's now critically low, and my computer will *power-off* when it becomes completely empty. [11:13] I've never seen a GNOME application spout so much rubbish in such a short time. [11:13] that's a feature === Fujitsu drops a g-p-m carcass on Hobbsee. [11:14] Hrm. Could it be egging Fujitsu on to install Kubuntu. [11:14] StevenK: No. === Hobbsee notes that this coincides very nicely with her recent core-dev status... [11:14] Hobbsee: Hahaha. [11:15] Baaaaah, why is my battery percentage going distinctly up when I'm still unplugged? How do I gain 10% of my power with no input? [11:15] Magic, clearly. [11:15] Fujitsu: Lag. g-p-m now updates itself via the internet. Get a faster connection :) [11:15] Bwahaha [11:15] :D === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-6-221.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] g-p-m is being nasty and retrospectively modifying the Charge History graph. [11:49] man-di: ok thanks :) [11:50] I am packaging a library which creates libsnmp++.so.0.0.0. How do I create the symlinks (libsnmp++.so.0 and libsnmp++.so)? Manually? shlibs? something else? === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === `23meg [n=m@ubuntu/member/-23meg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] pochu: ping [12:07] bashelier: pong. [12:08] pochu: hey :) I wanted to ask you if I could merge listen, this merge is simple ;) [12:08] Any sponsor for Bug #72382? It's an easy fix, so it won't take a lot for review it :) [12:08] Launchpad bug 72382 in mail-notification "Popup not working with KDE 3.5.5" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72382 [12:09] bashelier: There's -4 in Debian? [12:09] pochu: yep, give me a minute and I'll send you the debdiff [12:10] bashelier: I can't upload it, so need to send it to me ;) [12:10] But I've seen the changes. Please, do it :) [12:11] pochu: np ;) === Amaranth_ [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host52-60.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:15] pochu: here it is : http://82.234.91.6/listen_0.5-4ubuntu1.patch, let's report a bug now === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] Cool [12:18] ugh... elcassy is drunk in #ubuntuforums [12:20] pochu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/listen/+bug/118759 [12:20] Launchpad bug 118759 in listen "Please merge listen (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [12:21] bashelier: thanks! === pochu hugs bashelier === Sindwiller [n=sindwill@84-75-101-114.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU [12:22] thanks to you ;) === bashelier hugs pochu too === thekorn [n=thekorn@a81-14-165-132.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] Anybody with super-upload-powers? :) Bug #72382 and #118759 need you :) [12:24] Launchpad bug 72382 in mail-notification "Popup not working with KDE 3.5.5" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72382 [12:24] Launchpad bug 118759 in listen "Please merge listen (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118759 === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === puttputt [n=james@125-238-177-206.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === puttputt [n=james@125-238-177-206.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:33] Hrm, make is a really hard parent. [12:33] Live child 0x0064e290 (install-arch) PID 2924 [12:33] Reaping losing child 0x0064e290 PID 2924 [12:34] And even if you don't lose! [12:34] Reaping winning child 0x0064e290 PID 2907 === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:41] imbrandon: ping? [12:41] sacater: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around. [12:41] ah [12:41] imbrandon: ping want to talk to you about server space [12:42] does the connection to tiber seem a bit slow to any of you? [12:45] dholbach: it does :/ [12:45] ok, just didn't know if it was just my problem [12:46] dholbach: do you have a few minuts to sponsor a very simple merge ? [12:46] bashelier: I can look at it, yes === coNP [n=coNP@unaffiliated/conp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] dholbach: here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/listen/+bug/118759 :) [12:46] Launchpad bug 118759 in listen "Please merge listen (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Low,Confirmed] [12:48] bashelier: I'm reviewing the patches and packages in my mails now too - so please bear with me :) === Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] hey imbrandon you there? [12:50] was messing around with NX today [12:50] bashelier: looks good - doing a test build now [12:50] dholbach: ok thanks :) [12:51] Yay, g-p-m is giving slightly sane time estimates now I've put the battery through a full cycle. [12:53] bashelier: for future uploads: if you close a bug with your upload, add a (LP # bashelier: i'll close this one manually [12:53] dholbach: np, I will, thanks [12:54] alright [12:59] bashelier: uploaded [01:02] dholbach: thanks, would you agry to let me try to merge/sync bluez-hcidump now? :) [01:02] sure [01:04] thx === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deep [n=deep@124.43.224.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] when asking for a sync... just create a bug with "Please sync from Debian"? === Hobbsee would suggest the request sync script [01:11] but yes, that works [01:11] Hobbsee: Note that it must be modified for non-MOTU. [01:12] Fujitsu: yes, that's now documented on DeveloperResource [01:12] s [01:12] Ah, good. === jml [n=jml@121.44.223.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:13] Hobbsee: request sync script? [01:13] ah [01:13] I see [01:14] ryanakca: yes. see /usr/bin/requestsync and change where it says to subscribe ubuntu-archive to be ubuntu-universe-sponsors. it's documented on w.u.c/DeveloperResources === DktrKranz [n=Luca@ubuntu/member/dktrkranz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@83-131-63-165.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] Hobbsee: I've edited for -sponsors, but https://wiki.edubuntu.org/SyncRequestProcess doesn't explain how to use, so, `requestsync aoeui 7.10 Sid` is what I'm guessing, based on 'requestsync [basever] ' [01:28] but, it fails... === RainCT [i=d5b0a1c8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-c64585becf9b6bff] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] dholbach: Should I leave those packages I did with you, or put them on REVU? [01:29] ryanakca: try requestsync aoeui gutsy [01:30] ryanakca: You'll also need deb-src lines for gutsy [01:30] ah, ok [01:31] thanks :) === jml [n=jml@121.44.223.111] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] bashelier, has freeradius sync bug #118733 been processed by an archive admin? [01:33] Launchpad bug 118733 in freeradius "Please sync freeradius (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118733 [01:34] if not, you should reopen it in order to be processed [01:35] DktrKranz: looks like bashelier closed the bug... [01:35] (and it was not processed) [01:35] It seems so [01:36] it's not a big issue, though === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:37] DktrKranz: right :) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === evand_ [n=evand@acm.pct.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] ryanakca: use requestsync aoeui gutsy === apachelogger [n=me@N837P008.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] Martinp23: they are fine at your place - as you like it - still reviewing your package and will reply soon [01:47] dholbach: OK :) === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] Martinp23: replied === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@ubuntu/member/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] fernando packaged stuff like crazy [01:59] Hi all [01:59] he's bloody amazing [01:59] Martinp23: maybe we should create DesktopTeam/WIP on the wiki === jekil [n=alessand@host158-58-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] Martinp23: so we don't clash on stuff we're working on [01:59] dholbach: Indeed - that would be helpful [01:59] Martinp23: I'll do that and link it from /TODO [01:59] dholbach: OK - /me will work on the packages :) [01:59] Martinp23: thanks a lot for that [01:59] hello === SWAT__ [n=SWAT@a80-100-68-159.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@ppp-88-217-17-29.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bdmurray [n=bdmurray@mylar.outflux.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asimon [n=asimon@dslb-084-058-253-109.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK2 [n=ScottK@ubuntu/member/scottk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chninkel [n=yann@alcyone.pleiades.fr.eu.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kaloz [i=kaloz@openwrt/developer/Kaloz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RainCT [i=d5b0a1c8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-c64585becf9b6bff] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === illovae [n=illovae@uni14-1-82-233-221-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Bixente [i=bixente@vds67917.nfrance.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywi1ly [n=danielb@CPE-72-133-223-147.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tarzeau [i=sengun@krum.ethz.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:59] moin all === nxvl [n=nxvl@barovia.aureal.com.pe] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LongPointyStick [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gpocentek [n=gauvain@69.60.114.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@S01060016b619a773.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] hey fernando :) [02:03] hey bashelier === AndyP_ [n=andyp@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust15.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] mr_pouit: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5245 please revu :) === xxxxx1 [n=will@44125.static.fln.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] Good morning all. === cypher1 [n=cypher1@c-68-83-184-230.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] morning people! === etank [n=etank@ubuntu/member/etank] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK wonders if he can get irssi to lose its DNS cache. [02:17] Does anyone know how long it takes for a Debian upload to get to ftp.debian.org, or another place I can see it before it gets there? [02:17] persia: dak for Debian runs once a day. [02:17] persia: And, http://incoming.debian.org/ [02:18] StevenK: Thanks. Now to make sure my hijacker is doing a good job :) [02:18] Hah [02:19] Oh crap. === StevenK has a bad feeling he has just realised what the problem with this merge is. [02:20] Grrr.. Debian maintainers grabbing ITAs should check the Ubuntu patch :( [02:24] persia: Depending on the maintainer, they may not be interested. Even from my perspective as an Ubuntu person, those patches are sometimes hard to make sense of. [02:25] StevenK: surely it's good that you know the problem? [02:25] persia: What's worked for me is direct dialogue with the maintainer or individual bugs on BTS with a patch specific to that problem. [02:26] cbx33: Well, why not? [02:27] ScottK: In general, that works for me. This was a package that was orphaned, and I spent two weeks getting it into shape for Debian, and submitted to a Debian sponsor for an ITA, and someone else trumped me as the new maintainer. I'll submit patches now, but I had a really nice and clean package, without many issues now still in Debian :( [02:28] I see. Sounds a bit frustrating. [02:28] Debian often is. [02:28] [02:28] ScottK: Yep. Just venting here. I expect we can probably get a merge once I've had some dialog with the new maintainer. [02:28] persia: File the ITA first! First! === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44070.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] StevenK: I was encouraged not to by my Debian sponsor until the package had been reviewed. Next time I'll seek a Debian sponsor I know better (hint, hint). [02:29] You can't afford my rates. [02:29] :-P [02:30] StevenK: can be persuaded to uplaod :P === persia decides to purchase Australia and charge sufficient rent to afford StevenK's consulting fee. === ScottK wonders if persia is kidding given real estate prices in Japan... [02:30] :) [02:31] persia: Buy a quad core Pentium D, and I'll upload libc6 if you ask me. [02:31] persia: If you are interested in Python modules at all, the Debian Python Modules Team is very open to Ubuntu participation and has several DDs that will also sponsor stuff outside the scope of what DPMT covers. [02:31] lol [02:32] Buy *me* a quad core, that is. :-) [02:33] ScottK: Nope. I'm already on the debian games team, and will probably join debian-multimedia once I clear my plate. This was just one of my wxWindows -> wxWidgets transitions, for which upstream and Debian were dead (and it wasn't a team package), so I thought I'd become a Debian Maintainer. [02:33] OK. Just a thought. [02:34] StevenK: Does Australia still have that surcharge on data processing equipment as needing to be certified by the telephone authority? Are you allowed to run equipment intended for other countries? [02:35] persia: Yes, and no. === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] StevenK: OK. Next time I seek an upload, I'll buy you a quad core Pentium D and keep it on my bookshelf until the laws change :) [02:37] Well, it needs to be Austel approved if it connects to the POTS. [02:37] So, ship it over. :-) [02:38] StevenK: Only POTS? That's an improvement. I'll keep it in mind. Thanks. === RainCT [n=RainCT@212.73.34.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK kicks gluBuild2DMipmaps() for returning invalid value. [02:45] Has anybody else using LVM noticed that some LVs have vanished from /dev/ in Gutsy recently? [02:49] persia: I had to reread the summary of bug #118772 a few times to confirm I wasn't delusional :P [02:49] Launchpad bug 118772 in freqtweak "Please don't merge freqtweak 0.7.0~cvs20070605-1 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118772 [02:49] Fujitsu: I've contacted the maintainer. I'm hoping for a sync in a week or so, but didn't want anyone to get excited before it was ready :) [02:51] does someone have an i386 ready to test latest Debian zsnes revision ? (new upstream version) I'll ask for sync if it works === elmargol [n=elmargol@82.48.60.52] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] (I'm have a ready .deb and a rom) === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === H4wk_cz [n=david@3.138.broadband4.iol.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkibras1-ff55c300-121.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === H4wk_cz [n=david@3.138.broadband4.iol.cz] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fdoving [n=frode@edge.lnix.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deep` [n=deep@c-a52a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Jucato_ [n=jucato@58.69.160.120] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] ryanakca: did you get it working? === tmarble [n=tmarble@user-38q4et6.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.97.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:05] persia: about the comment you made on inventor: glw is not included in ubuntu. it was provided by the source package 'meta', from which glw has been removed a while back, dunno why === bueroman [n=setanta@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:06] Lutin: Thanks for the note. I thought it was just similar to GL vs. GLU at first glance. === Jucato_ [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu === svschwartz [n=svschwar@217.147.21.82] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:09] persia: err. I actually meant mesa . the point is, we end up with unsable packages that we can't fix :/ (I also screwed up by requestiong a sync for xbvl, same thing) [04:10] Lutin: Perhaps there is a need for a libGLw package? [04:11] persia: yep, maybe. I haven't been able to find out why it was removed from ubuntu though. looks like it was during the edgy devel sycle [04:11] cycle* [04:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inventor/+bug/118608 [04:12] Launchpad bug 118608 in inventor "Please merge inventor (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Needs info] [04:12] apt-file didn't give me any resoult about the missing files [04:12] result* [04:14] perhaps just a missing b-d on libglw-dev, let's try [04:15] bashelier: Always try apt-cache search foo before build-depending on foo :) [04:16] GLw hasn't existed since Breezy. [04:16] persia: I'll remember :) [04:16] And thanks for asking before taking my merge. [04:17] sure, sorry [04:17] In future, it's polite to do so. [04:17] will do, don't worry [04:17] StevenK: oh, breezy ? === radhios [n=radhios@96-208-126-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] StevenK: do you know the rationale for its removal ? [04:18] Yes. It's a complete PoS. === CarlFK [n=carl@c-76-29-9-184.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] StevenK: sorry, what's PoS ? [04:19] I went digging and found out the sordid tale when I did the inventor merge for Dapper, but Dapper was a long time ago. [04:19] Lutin: I'll rephrase. The code is utter crap. :-) [04:19] StevenK: ahh, I see. thanks :) === persia notes that the last inventor release was 4 years ago, and suggests submitting a patch upstream for a code migration away from libGLw (and patching it locally and in Debian regardless of the lack of upstream response). [04:24] (or request a drop) === persia [n=persia@ubuntu/member/persia] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === RainCT [n=RainCT@62.87.104.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === white [n=white@user.skolelinux.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu === leonel [n=leonel@189.155.129.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] hello ! [04:41] StevenK, still awake ? [04:41] hi imbrandon [04:41] Nope. [04:41] StevenK, something for you to dream about tonight ... http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lolcode.jpg [04:42] Hobbsee! [04:42] imbrandon: you promised me some scripts, a while ago. [04:42] Hobbsee what ones ? [04:42] imbrandon: they havent appeared in my inbox. [04:42] imbrandon: konversation nightly scripts, etc [04:42] imbrandon: Twitch. [04:42] i've been forgetfull/busy lately heh, ahhh ok [04:42] i'll grab those now-ish [04:42] good man. thankyou [04:42] StevenK, i knew you would like that === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === acm [n=ameinke@p57bcb58a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asimon [n=asimon@dslb-084-059-031-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apacheLAGger [n=me@M3122P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tiCo89 [i=mario@aphrodite.dmz.marioiseli.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] I need to put some patches is it better to run dpatch-edit-patch once for every patch or do only one time dpatch-edit-patch ? [05:26] pochu: ping, just to ask you if I could merge monodevelop [05:28] bashelier: Sure. Just add the new dependency, and ask slomo whether it's ok or not. [05:31] pochu: new dependency has been added in latest Debian revision ;) see Debian #424075, just have to build depend on firefox-dev, depend on firefox for the merge [05:31] Debian bug 424075 in monodevelop "monodevelop: FTBFS: Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code." [Serious,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/424075 [05:32] bashelier: That's what I mean :) There are no more changes to merge, so just add the build-dependency ;) [05:32] leonel: I'd do it once per patch so that you can be very clear in debian/changelog what goes with what and why it's there. [05:32] pochu: ok :) === asimon [n=asimon@dslb-084-059-031-031.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] ScottK: that's what I was thinking .. [05:35] ScottK: thanks === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] gpocentek: ping [05:38] No problem. It's always important to be clear what's happening and why. It's even more important for security uploads. [05:39] LaserJock: pong === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-169-190.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] gpocentek: see pm [05:40] dholbach: pingy pingy for you too [05:40] LaserJock: hello === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-73-215.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:40] dholbach: how many MC members do I need? all of them? [05:42] LaserJock: it has been up for vote since friday and it'd be nice to hear some views on it - I'm going to reply to the mail today - I've been very busy - so sorry for not replying to it direclty [05:42] dholbach: well, I ask because there is a TB meeting in 3 hrs [05:42] dholbach: I think if you can email I'll have all the MC but ajmitch [05:42] as I think he'll still be asleep [05:43] right [05:43] I'm trying to figure out if I need to show up at the TB meeting or not ;-) === javier_galicia [n=Javier@189.130.231.23] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:43] the TB might also be interested to know if they need to show up or not [05:43] hobbsee's interview was done separate from the TB meeting [05:43] heh === Hobbsee hugs dholbach and LaserJock [05:44] dholbach: yes, but I think that was just because of scheduling [05:44] so I'm sure that if you missed the meeting, you'd still get processed quickly enough [05:44] i dont do 4am meetings. === finalbeta [n=gggggggg@d54C6865D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] the TB meeting today is a decent time for me so if it's possible great [05:44] if not that's fine [05:44] alright [05:44] I just wondered [05:44] I can pass on the vote as it is [05:45] if you want to get it processed quickly [05:46] dholbach: and even that got delayed :P [05:46] right [05:46] dholbach: well, if they aren't going to take it without ajmitch's vote then I don't see the point [05:46] I can't promise you anything [05:46] I guess I could ask mdz or something [05:46] I think a majority will be enough, if they're convinced as well === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] it'd surprise me if they followed the rule to the letter, instead of the idea of the rule [05:48] considering timezones and such === jellyfish2002 [n=Miranda@bb121-7-200-208.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === danohuiginn [n=dan@p54BE8C0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] dholbach: mdz wants to wait === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] ok thanks LaserJock [05:59] pochu: have you also added metacity in the Deps ? It had been removed in revision 0.13.1+dfsg-1 in Debian [05:59] pochu, bashelier: looks good... pochu, can you already upload ot universe? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.97.165] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] slomo: here is the debdiff, but I want first to know why the dep metacity has been re-added, because it has been removed in debian and not mentioned in changelog in ubuntu revisions [06:02] slomo: http://paste.stgraber.org/1377 [06:02] bashelier: it can be dropped, no idea why anymore but it can ;) === hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-f43a97ed002300d7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] slomo: ok, just let me check the build and then I'll attach debdiff the debdiff to the bug :) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-049-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === icf7 [n=chatzill@PPPOE-06-0062.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deep [n=deep@124.43.226.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:08] slomo: not yet :) [06:09] pochu: oh, too bad :) [06:09] slomo: oh, and if you have one second, bug #72382 is a one-line fix (add a dependency) [06:09] Launchpad bug 72382 in mail-notification "Popup not working with KDE 3.5.5" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72382 [06:09] slomo: hehe, but I'll get there sooner or later ;) [06:09] ok, will upload === mruiz [n=mruiz@ubuntu/member/mruiz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] hi all [06:12] Hello mruiz === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:12] slomo: thanks! [06:12] hello pochu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-5-192.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] dholbach, poke [06:17] pygi: in a phone call [06:17] oki === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] slomo, pochu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monodevelop/+bug/118795 [06:24] Launchpad bug 118795 in monodevelop "Please merge monodevelop (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [06:27] Hi [06:27] do "Updated Merges" also require some work? [06:28] RainCT: update merge list you mean ? [06:28] bashelier: the 'Updated Merges' from http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [06:28] do they need some intervention are is there everything done automatically? [06:29] RainCT: don't know, I'm using DaD :p === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] pygi: back [06:31] was just wondering what happened with packages yesterday [06:31] everyone in revu mood please have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5391 === TomaszD [n=tom@unaffiliated/tomaszd] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] apachelogger: np hold on ;) [06:32] aye :) [06:32] pygi: some people took care of them [06:32] RainCT, bashelier: DaD and MoM do almost the same. The merge is done automatically if no conflicts are found, but you still need to check everything went fine. [06:33] RainCT: I forgot to tell you, the current Gutsy package for Plucker doesn't build the desktop anymore [06:33] dholbach, ok then :) [06:33] pygi: thanks [06:33] for what? I didn't help ;) [06:34] RainCT: it is my job to Debian to accept my libemhttp package so we can start building the patched kplucker (v1.9) from their dev svn [06:34] pochu: didn't know it was called "updated packages", thanks :) [06:35] nixternal: so do you need the .desktop or not? [06:35] if you have one, you can shoot it my way [06:35] I can guarantee that the 1.9 doesn't have it either === dpm [n=dpm@p54a12cc7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] I want to get a proper plucker-desktop build before the end of Gutsy [06:36] plucker code isn't the prettiest, and they went ahead and used a non-standard library for this patched version [06:36] why they couldn't have just used the curl library instead [06:37] apachelogger: check this error in lintian: W: ksshaskpass source: configure-generated-file-in-source debug/config.log [06:37] apachelogger: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/ksshaskpass-0706051220/lintian [06:37] pochu: already asked upstream to fix this === Neonightmare [n=neonight@30.66.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:38] apachelogger: you can fix it in your package in the meantime :) [06:38] pochu: just a clean rule? === Neonightmare [n=neonight@30.66.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:38] apachelogger: debian/control: please mention "Homepage" before the url [06:39] apachelogger: also in debian/copyright, link to the GFDL the same way you're doing with the GPL (in /usr/share/common-licenses/) [06:39] apachelogger: debian/copyright: missing package license === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] me@apoc:/usr/share/common-licenses$ ls [06:43] Artistic BSD GPL GPL-2 LGPL LGPL-2 LGPL-2.1 [06:43] pochu: no gfdl installed by default [06:44] /usr/share/common-licenses/GFDL -> GFDL-1.2 (on gutsy) [06:45] omg [06:45] that's the feisty chroot ^_^ === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] bashelier: [07:07] pochu: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5392 === lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] apachelogger, you should remove autogenerated-configure files [07:13] apachelogger, as reported by lintian === davromaniak [n=cyril@ALyon-203-2-1-160.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:14] apachelogger, just adding a clean rule [07:14] ehm [07:14]