=== Cinnander [n=cinn@cpc1-cdif4-0-0-cust304.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === uranther [n=james@74-138-15-250.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === mode/#xubuntu [+o Pumpernickel] by ChanServ === mode/#xubuntu [+b *!*@*.cdif.cable.ntl.com] by Pumpernickel === Cinnander [n=cinn@cpc1-cdif4-0-0-cust304.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has left #xubuntu [requested] === mode/#xubuntu [-b Pumpernickel!*@*] by Pumpernickel === mode/#xubuntu [-o Pumpernickel] by Pumpernickel [12:43] Pumpernickel, may i ask what they did to get banned? [12:43] It was a bot. [12:43] ah [12:43] I was enforcing a previous ban. === vidd knew ya had a reason =] ...just wondering what it was === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === Xzite [n=electron@ua-83-227-198-168.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu [12:54] Is there a way to boot Xubuntu using a USB-memory? [12:55] you mean like from a usb stick as a live cd? === jikuty [i=em@CPE001195752c87-CM00111ade8af2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [12:57] vidd: naw... i want to install from the USB-memory since i dont have a floppy or cd-rom in this little embedded system, and since it got USB and i have a 1 gig stick i was hoping for a solution that way =) === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@c-134-230-3.f.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:58] ah... Xzite I know there IS a way...but i do not recall it.... [12:58] let me dig up a how-to...... === Spencer [n=Weiss@cpe-76-190-153-187.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:59] vidd: thank you very much, my google skills seems to fail tonight =/ [01:03] vidd: this is the system im gonna try installing on... http://www.ipcmax.com/product_info.php?products_id=224 [01:04] Xzite: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB try that one [01:04] maxamillion, is too fast for me [01:04] =] [01:04] i do only what i can [01:05] !info poo [01:05] Package poo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas [01:05] er [01:05] Merchelo: ? [01:06] maxamillion: hmm... does that guide explain exactly how to get the data to the usb-stick? [01:06] Xzite: not entirely sure to be honest, just found it in a search i did [01:07] maxamillion: ahh... ok, since i know the system will boot from USB... i just dont know how to get the Xubunto CD onto the stick... [01:07] Xzite: ah, ok ... lemme find you a link for that [01:08] maxamillion: i mean, it could be as simple as extracting the *.iso to the stick but hey... i have no idea... i'm out of caffeine =/ [01:08] Xzite: its almost that simple, i don't remember the exact steps but i will get you a link [01:08] maxamillion: thank you very much =) [01:09] Xzite, what do you have running on that comp now? [01:09] maxamillion: was looking on how to add a factoid to the ubotu, for usbbooting [01:09] vidd: nothing at all, got it from a friend for like 50 Euro couple of weeks ago... [01:10] Merchelo: you would have to ask for permission in #ubuntu-ops [01:10] ahh ok [01:11] Xzite: does that machine have a hard drive or you need to run it as a live session? [01:11] nvm ... i just checked the linke [01:11] maxamillion: i have a 2 gig drive installed, and 256 megs of memory... [01:12] wow...tiny [01:12] Xzite: here is an article that covers many alternate installation methods for people without cd-rom drives and details on each method .... http://www.jonlee.ca/tag/optical-drive/ enjoy :) [01:12] vidd: yeah i know, but i dont need more... === evilxhwnd [n=filipe@pool-70-111-78-89.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] vidd: it's gonna play bedside irc/mail/mp3jukebox(if i get the audio to work)-computer === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === vidd is not one to advise other flavors...but you might want to check out damn small linux.... [01:14] it has a usb-install === evilxhwnd [n=filipe@pool-70-111-78-89.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] [01:15] vidd: but once the installation is complete, it doesn't offer full desktop functionality, such as ability to install other apps or receive system updates [01:15] maxamillion, just enough to get the base system.... [01:16] once the base system is up and he has internet...he can replace the sources.list with fiesty's sources.list and update, and then get all he wants.... [01:17] its a little tricky...but it works surprisingly well [01:17] vidd: nope, DSL doesn't come with a fully functional dpkg or apt setup [01:17] vidd: or atleast it used to not ... they might have changed that since i last spoke with the project lead [01:17] hrm... [01:17] it has been a couple years === vidd needs to go get the kid....bbl === Starting logfile irclogs/xubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #xubuntu === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 [06:42] (Jester45/#xubuntu) typical windows :) [06:42] (maxamillion/#xubuntu) or the library ... which ever you prefer to call it [06:42] (maxamillion/#xubuntu) Jester45: no joke === maxamillion is sitting on his couch with his laptop watching his fiance play "super paper mario" .... [06:43] (maxamillion/#xubuntu) looks like a cool game :) [06:43] (Jester45/#xubuntu) whats dpkg's error code 1 mean === maxamillion bought her a wii for her b-day [06:43] (thirdy/#xubuntu) maxamillion, I just choosed the project type in devc++5 to be Win32 not Console app [06:43] (maxamillion/#xubuntu) Jester45: no clue [06:44] thirdy: yeah, then it probably used some windows DLL and didn't make you learn anything about how the gui actually functions [06:44] thirdy: you will need to learn to use a tool called glade [06:45] maxamillion, yeah, I saw a DLL pop up in my folder [06:45] thirdy: it will be the easiest for you to write gui apps on linux === Merchelo [n=Merchelo@deathray.redbrick.dcu.ie] has joined #xubuntu [06:45] maxamillion, Kdevelop? [06:45] thirdy: http://glade.gnome.org/ .... its in the repos "sudo aptitude install glade" [06:46] thirdy: don't know ... like i said last night, haven't touched KDE since 2001 and even then, i never used kdevelop for more than a day [06:46] !glade [06:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about glade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:47] !info glade [06:47] glade: GTK+ 2 User Interface Builder. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.12.1-6ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 310 kB, installed size 4936 kB [06:47] !botsnack [06:47] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [06:47] lol!!! [06:47] i didn't know sev updated its reply ... that's awesome [06:48] I really need to get a new monitor, mine is since I was in kindergarten, now I'm gonna be 2nd yr college [06:49] thirdy: yeah ... that's bad for your eyes ... [06:49] AAHHHHHHHHHH [06:49] AlexC: that is not a good sign ... what's wrong? [06:49] thirdy:that's dangerous shit [06:50] AlexC, thats why I need to make money, need to buy lots of things [06:50] !language AlexC [06:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about language alexc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [06:50] maxamillion, ok Exaile! won't start [06:51] thirdy: uhmm... question about your "stars fall on" app ... does it constantly write to and update a file somewhere just incase windows freezes, then the user can restart the app and pick back up where they left off? [06:51] thirdy: really? ... strange [06:51] i need a 2 port usb hub [06:51] unpluging the keyboard is annoying [06:51] maxamillion, nope it doesn't [06:52] maxamillion, is this worth downloading? [06:52] http://forumw.org/viewtopic.php?t=67831&highlight=linspire [06:52] AlexC: i actually think i have like 3 4-port usb hubs around here somewhere ... they were free give away's from the belkin rep when i worked at best buy back in high school ... if i find one i can ship it to you [06:52] Linspire says "The world's easiest Desktop linux" [06:53] thirdy: Linspire is built off of ubuntu [06:53] sweet [06:53] thirdy: and you wouldn't want linspire, you would want freespire (the free version) [06:53] maxamillion: I'm in ausralia [06:53] thirdy: and i don't care for it much, but you might enjoy it ... i think the click-n-run system is something you would get along with [06:53] AlexC: oh ... ouch [06:54] :( [06:54] AlexC: yeah, sorry ... i don't think i have enough money for shipping to there [06:55] they don't cost that much anyway [06:55] i'll get one [06:56] AlexC: true [06:56] AlexC: sorry :( === kalikiana__ [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-120-243.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:56] i hate virtual packages [06:56] they make me angry [06:57] AlexC: ... you mean meta packages? [06:57] the ones that just link places [06:57] yeah ... meta packages === TacticalPenguin [n=lewis@pool-68-238-133-217.sea.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:58] packages.ubuntu.com calls them virtual [06:58] hello [06:58] AlexC: oh ... didn't know that [06:58] TacticalPenguin: hello [06:58] AlexC: the devs call them meta :P [06:58] :P [06:59] maxamillion, I woudn't want freespire? [07:00] I saw a video on youtube where the desktop was 3d, what i need to do [07:00] Beryl [07:00] thirdy: i think you might like it ... it uses KDE and i think you would enjoy the CNR system [07:00] TacticalPenguin: beryl? ... what about it? [07:00] TacticalPenguin: oh... nvm === maxamillion needs to read everything [07:01] xjkx- lookup beryl and search about installing it, its supported pretty well [07:01] xjkx: http://wiki.beryl-project.org [07:01] xjkx: if that link doesn't work let me know ... i just typed it from memory === maxamillion can't stand 3d desktops :/ [07:01] Ive had beryl working on an ubuntu install before havent tried with xubuntu yet but it should still work === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.147.12] has left #xubuntu [] [07:01] Yea its coolfor like a day [07:01] Then it gets old [07:02] it works [07:02] TacticalPenguin: i've run beryl on xubuntu ... it works [07:02] Ok [07:02] TacticalPenguin: but yeah ... after about 2 weeks i just became annoyed [07:02] haha 2 weeks [07:03] didn't take me half that [07:03] Has anybody in here managed to get the source of ncurses and/or terminfo to compile and get them to install? [07:03] Or know of a better way? [07:03] TacticalPenguin: well i ran it at work long before vista came out and i work in a windows dominated office so it was fun to be like "oh, look what else your operating system can't do" [07:04] maxamillion: yea Its fun to tack on what windows cant do when youre trying to get people to try linux [07:05] can someone please help me get Logitech 250 USB headset workingplease. I can select it in menu>settings>settings manager, but mic is selected and when i select speaker, the setting never stays selected [07:05] Freespire doesn't just take open source programs and "toss them in." There are hundreds of changes made to programs such as Firefox, Thunderbird, KDE, GIMP, OpenOffice, etc. that you'll find in Freespire and the CNR Warehouse programs [07:05] TacticalPenguin: i could be wrong, but i think there is a package called "ncurses-term" that is what you are looking for .... but i could be wrong, i don't know much of it [07:05] that one catched me [07:05] or at least tell me where to look [07:05] Ok Ill try that === coldsteal [n=coldstea@unaffiliated/coldsteal] has left #xubuntu [] [07:05] thirdy: give it a try, only you can decide what is best for your needs ;) [07:06] maxamillion: the part on "ubuntu" when talking about installation was incomplete, i installed by myself with apt-get install beryl, is there a "what else to do" in that site? cant find [07:06] homebrewcider: i unfortunately have no clue .... you might try googling around a bit or ask in #xfce [07:06] Well that package exists [07:06] Not sure if itll do what I need it for but Ill try [07:06] (its for compiling psptoolchain) [07:06] xjkx: not sure, its been about 8 months since i used beryl [07:06] TacticalPenguin: oh ... uhmmm... dunno [07:07] well ill try it [07:07] TacticalPenguin: you might need ncurses dev tools or something for compiling [07:07] automatix2 really sucks [07:07] yea it says install ncurses before continuing [07:07] TacticalPenguin: if that doesn't work ... try out "ncurses-dev" package or "ncurses-runtime" package [07:07] wait [07:07] thirdy: yes, automatix is garbage [07:07] TacticalPenguin: yes? [07:08] the folder it checked for in usr/lib is libncurses [07:08] lemme try aptgetting it with lib on the front [07:08] maxamillon, wat do you use for torrent? [07:08] I use deluge for torrents [07:08] xubuntu, doesn't have one [07:08] i use azureus [07:08] smart install deluge won't work [07:09] worked for me just fine [07:09] TacticalPenguin: ah, yes ... there is a libncurses4 and libncurses5 package ... i assume just using libncurses will pull the latest version [07:09] DLed the deb and ran it [07:09] hmm [07:09] i tried libncurses5 and it says its already installed [07:09] and at the latest [07:11] thirdy: deluge isn't in the repositories yet, you have to download the deb from the site and install it with either dpkg or run it in gdebi (or just double click, i think gdebi will launch and install it for you) [07:11] TacticalPenguin: hmm.... [07:11] yea thats what I did just got it and ran it in gdebi [07:11] thirdy: http://deluge-torrent.org/ [07:12] gdebi is a wonderful app :) [07:12] like a cross between dpkg and apt-get ... good times [07:12] anyhoo, back to your ncurses issue [07:12] lol an dit has a gui [07:12] *and it [07:12] its not really urgent but its been annoying me for a while lol [07:13] TacticalPenguin: you might want to try installing ncurses-dev and libncurses4 ... just incase it wants the older version or some dev library [07:13] hmm im trying installing ncurses-dev [07:13] wow lol 5mb to download [07:14] wow [07:14] installed [07:14] nice [07:14] lemem try toolchain now [07:14] my net connection is soo slow :( [07:14] k [07:14] mines 768kbps dsl lol [07:15] max download speed is like 90KBps [07:15] next worse thing is dialup [07:16] well i am a college student and i live off campus in a college town, i'm 10 miles out and too far for cable or dsl ... so i have a cingular/at&t air-card with only EDGE network coverage in the area, so i get like 250kbps max, average of 150kbps and download from the repos at around 30kbps [07:16] no next thing is ISDN [07:16] Jester45: they don't really offer ISDN anymore [07:17] THAT'S IT!!!! [07:17] AlexC: ? [07:17] i know but its the next level up [07:17] DEATH TO LIBSDL-DEV [07:17] AlexC: LOL [07:17] Jester45: true [07:18] beats my 56kbps dialup. [07:18] then you got dual ISDN and quad and what mulitpule of it they got it to [07:18] i've downloaded like 140 packages over the last two days [07:18] crimsun: ouch ... you uber dev on dialup? ... you are a trooper [07:19] then what.. minimal DSL [07:19] and their dependancies [07:19] and for what? === homebrewcider [n=malandme@219-90-207-37.static.adam.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] [07:19] AlexC: no clue ... why don't you tell us :) === Jester45 is getting 10mbps/3mpbs some time next month [07:19] to compile a game [07:19] what game [07:20] but no, simply downloading and installing packages isn't enough === TacticalPenguin [n=lewis@pool-68-238-133-217.sea.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:20] i give up after the first or 2nd package [07:21] you have to sell yourself as a sex slave for two years in egypt and then you still have to port 400,000 binary files without source [07:21] Jester45: yeah, the worst part is i just moved into this house last week and my old place had 3mbps/5mbps for half the price i pay for this stupid cellular air-card [07:21] it's impossible [07:21] ?? ok.. [07:21] what the heck is AlexC attempting? [07:21] AlexC: wow ... maybe you just need to find a new game [07:22] i'll try to install one that you don't have to compile [07:22] if there are any [07:22] maxamillion: and you have good lantency with it hooked 2 like 4 things right? didnt you say its connect to a windows laptop then to a desktop [07:23] Jester45: windows laptop, router, then 3 different linux machines [07:23] AlexC: search the repo for "game" you will have an hour or 2 of read names [07:23] Jester45: and the windows install wasn't paid for by me ... my work took the bill on that one [07:24] but still each new device makes more delay [07:24] but your probly not a gamer right? [07:24] Jester45: nope [07:24] Jester45: only thing i was upset about is that i had to lower my bitrate on my netradio stream === Jester45 has his modem connected to a router connected to 2 more routers [07:25] AlexC: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Native_Games [07:25] raise the cache to like 100mb [07:25] wiki.ubuntu.com/Games [07:26] Jester45: this setup is better than going with satellite internet ... which was my other option [07:26] AlexC: the link i gave you if from a ubuntu gamers community ... it has a good long list, i've played a few they list on there ... but only the ones in the repos because compiling games has never worked for me [07:27] i don't have access to repo's from ubuntu computter [07:27] i have to usb disk them over [07:27] AlexC: ahhh ... uhmm, you should remedy that ;) [07:28] AlexC: why does it not have a net connection? === TacticalPenguin [n=lewis@pool-68-238-133-217.sea.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] [07:28] it has two winmodems [07:28] wifi problems im guessing [07:28] o [07:28] that is my problem [07:28] AlexC: jeebus [07:28] i had a winmodem/audiocard in one [07:28] of my computers [07:28] AlexC: usb network interface a possibility? ... won't look pretty, but it will work [07:28] Jester45: ouch [07:29] maxamillion, i would have to drill a hole in the walll [07:29] AlexC: wifi not a possibility? [07:30] that would cost money === thirdy_ [n=thirdy@58.69.177.3] has joined #xubuntu [07:30] kinda weird setup has the modem out put then a analog audio line up to a chuck of circuit board that stuck in a pci slot and has output there (didnt use pci for data only power) [07:30] in the networking app..... [07:30] sys>networking [07:30] umm... [07:31] AlexC: yeah, don't use that thing ... its weird [07:31] to activate a interface do you just tick that little box [07:31] okay [07:31] what should i get?(must be compat with dial-up) [07:31] AlexC: oh, i dunno [07:31] i heard wvdial is a good option [07:32] i might try it out [07:32] AlexC: i've just never had good luck with the provided network app [07:32] AlexC: there is data over power, i dont know what its called but it uses power line to transfer data about wifi speed. you just plug it into an outlet and plug a network calbe into that [07:32] its a funny idea [07:32] Jester45: ohhhh yeah, i heard of that ... even read a couple reviews about it [07:32] it sound difficult [07:33] nope its easier than wired and wifi becuase it uses the building power lines and you just plug your cable in and its connected [07:33] AlexC: probably more trouble and money then its worth [07:34] each umm router i think can handel ~20 nodes or somthing like that [07:34] yea.. but still cool [07:34] Jester45: very cool [07:35] now they just need to use that but for dsl... maybe extend the reach a few miles [07:35] or shorten [07:35] Jester45: yeah, that would solve my non-dsl problems ... i am literally like a hundred feet or so too far from the service center [07:36] and they won't fork the money to drop a repeater because they just don't care [07:38] hmm, i'll go back to xp for now, haven't start any program, bye [07:39] uhh... ok === xjkx [n=x@201009054218.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [07:53] Starting Tomcat 5 servlet engine using Java from /usr/lib/jdk: (and then it doesnt open) [07:53] what could be wrong [07:54] xjkx: do you have java installed? [07:56] maxamillion: how do i check? [07:58] xjkx: type "java -version" in the command line and tell me what it says [07:59] java version "1.4.2" [07:59] gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu5) [08:00] xjkx: yeah, you don't have sun microsystems official java installed ... you have the gnu version and i don't know if tomcat will run on that or not === OGDA is now known as BFTD [08:01] xjkx: do "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre" in the command line [08:01] ok [08:04] xjkx: and then try the "java -version" again and let me know what it says [08:04] it said "these packages will be kept: " and didnt install, should i install the 5? Five works in that === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.223.204.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:07] xjkx: sure [08:24] peh, games are overrated [08:26] lol [08:27] frozenbubble for the win [08:29] too big [08:29] for my dial-up [08:29] :( [08:29] unles................ no, it's too big [08:29] i sorry... good game though [08:30] i know [08:30] all of them are good [08:30] i just wish i had Broadband [08:31] yeah ... i had broadband a week and a half ago ... now i don't :( [08:31] my new house is awesome though :) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@c-134-176-16.d.dsl.de.ignite.net] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-110-188-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === insmod [n=insmod@d141-13-36.home.cgocable.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper__ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === xjkx [n=x@201009054218.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #xubuntu [] [10:05] hey what's a program to download that can grab the colors from the viewport [10:05] grab the hex* === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:23] kikr_: you can use gimp for that [10:24] k [10:25] kikr_: in the gimp's color picker, there is one icon with a screen and the pipette [10:25] kikr_: that's the tool [10:27] thanks === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu === cjae [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #xubuntu === trippppy [n=tripppy@c220-237-67-224.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu === kikr__ [n=ant@ool-435499fc.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@62.134.213.0] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@212.186.5.30] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu === usr_rob_ [n=robert@c-c6dae055.105-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === aroo_ [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has joined #xubuntu === unikon [n=unikon@CPE-75-87-102-98.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@212.186.5.30] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === sparrw [n=kvirc@71.16.203.242] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === MagicFab [n=MagicFab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:22] quiet in here today === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === helpme [n=yudi@222.126.100.159] has joined #xubuntu [02:44] xubuntu rocks! [02:44] :D [02:47] do you guys love xubuntu too? [02:47] in a non physical way, yes [02:48] its economical but sexyyyyyyy === bolt [n=r00t@ti211310a341-3513.bb.online.no] has joined #xubuntu [02:49] hey... I installed Network Manager from Add/Remove but it doesn't show up [02:49] after a reboot, it's not in my systray [02:50] nor on the menu [02:50] how can I get it to start up when I log in? [02:50] log in as root [02:50] oh wait [02:50] settings->autostarted applications === hhlp [n=hhlp@252.Red-81-39-65.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:53] then in add NetworkManager [02:56] trying that now :) === low_on_ram [i=Administ@211.243.229.166] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] does anyone know how I can boot into xubuntu using the live CD without the X server? [02:58] you have to use the alternate CD, can't use the LiveCD [02:58] Merchelo: apparently, I must be root to run NetworkManager [03:01] pleia2, ok. downloading Alternate CD ... will try and see === predaeus [n=predaeus@212.186.5.30] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@212.186.5.30] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === deep` [n=deep@c-a52a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:36] bolt, yeah, i installed it there, and can't run it for some odd reason [03:40] how can I delete my saved session? [03:40] I set nm-applet to autostart, and now I get one more of them each time i log in! [03:40] i have 10 applets now === hhlp_ [n=hhlp@232.Red-83-32-9.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === kmindi [n=noname@dslb-084-056-145-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:44] nevermind. found it === helpme [n=yudi@222.126.100.159] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] hello [03:45] i uninstalled beryl [03:45] and my taskbar is missing [03:45] the part of windows where i can minimize and close the folder/program [03:45] how do i get it back? [03:46] helpme, try alt+f2 > emerald [03:46] oh wait sorry [03:46] you uninstalled (i read it wrong) === hhlp [n=hhlp@149.Red-83-32-9.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] yeah [03:46] the thing is [03:47] beryl messed up my window bar to begin with [03:47] so i cant properly minimize windows [03:47] by uninstalling it i thought xfce would set up its defaults [03:48] helpme, you could try Settings > window manager and then make changes there (to the style or button layout or whatever) [03:48] maybe that helps === grazie [n=grazie@88-110-188-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:50] terminal said [03:50] windows settings cant open with your current linux settings [03:50] damn [03:50] hmm ouch [03:51] darn beryl is a disaster [03:51] so many bugs [03:52] oh wait [03:52] no wonder [03:52] emerald was still installed [03:52] werid [03:52] *weird [03:54] heh ok yeah that's weird [03:55] so if i removed emerald [03:55] xfce will take over with my windows settings once again? [03:55] i guess so [03:56] you should remove emerald anyway, so you'll see after that :) [03:57] i just removed it [03:57] problem is still there [03:57] this sucks [03:57] you loged in and out? [03:58] (and killed emerald? ) [03:58] s/and/or [04:00] yes [04:00] to no avail [04:00] damn it [04:00] these settings cannot work with your current window manager [04:00] :/ === hhlp_ [n=hhlp@69.Red-83-41-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@246.Red-80-39-148.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp__ [n=hhlp@187.Red-83-49-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:07] how can i bring back window manager settings to default [04:08] helpme, removing your xfce config files i guess (make a backup!) [04:09] how do i do that? [04:10] helpme, mv ~/.config/xfce4 ~/.config/xfce4_backup [04:11] if you want to restore the backup you just do: mv ~/.config/xfce4_backup ~/.config/xfce4 [04:12] after you moved it just log out and in again === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === Tyr [n=Tyr@74-140-160-206.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === hhlp [n=hhlp@187.Red-83-49-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.147.12] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@88-110-188-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === radioaktivstorm [n=charles@c-68-35-36-100.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:41] morning and stuff, this is an odd question, but is there a way to get kde/qt type apps to integrate more nicely into the gtk based environments? i like some of the kde apps but i want my apps to not look like a hodgepodge or themes. [04:43] radioaktivstorm, afaik there's a clearlooks theme for qt.. [04:44] so if you use clearlooks in gtk, that should look pretty nice :) [04:44] ablomen sweet! i love clearlooks :D [04:44] :) [04:45] kde-style-klearlook - The Klearlook widget style for KDE << i think this is the package, not sure though === Jester45 [n=ryan@d19-212.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:47] ah now im sure, it is :) [04:48] found it ^^. i just run kcontrol to change to klearlook? [04:48] i think zo :) [04:48] *so === jgamio [n=jgamio@201.208.147.12] has left #xubuntu [] [04:48] dont use kde related stuff though :) [04:49] but it sounds right ;) [04:50] lol, yeah....dunno, I cant use kde. it feels too bloated, slow and the context is soo confusing X_X, i must say, the app integration is nice though. [04:51] :) [04:51] never liked kde [04:52] i dont like all the integration === hhlp [n=hhlp@162.Red-83-39-234.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:53] why not just have a few apps for settings and not, well you open this so you can open that then you can change the setting [04:56] lol, im not saying that i want everything in one place, but i do like how many of the apps recognise that the other exists and can conscript it for added features. while it is nice....i have to say that every time ive tried out kde, i get frustrated. [04:57] why not just have less apps but bigger ones [04:57] and have all the features in that one [04:59] my personal preference is really fast small apps. im very willing to sacrifice some features if an app does something and does it well :P i think thats what brought me to looking at Xfce [05:00] then i saw all the tweaking i could do, and got happy. :D [05:00] hehe so you might like gentoo+xfce [05:00] how much tweaking do you like :0 [05:02] lol! while i like tweaking....im woefully inexperienced. so i try to stick to learning some stuff with the terminal...trying to learn python and doing some web stuff mostly. [05:03] im being conscripted into web design [05:04] really? hows that going? im interested in doing web design, but i need some practice on the graphical end. [05:04] yea im working on the nongraphical part now [05:04]