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LaserJockwell, I use it pretty heavily for email, calendaring, RSS12:21
LaserJockthen there's google groups from my LUG, there's notebook, scholar, translation12:22
LaserJocks/from/for/12:22
crimsunI use Google for Web searches.12:23
LaserJocksometimes I even do that ;-)12:24
crimsunI have a gmail account, but I never use it.  It's also connected to my blog, which I never use.12:24
LaserJocktoo busy doing important things I guess12:25
crimsunI told you - I'm the world's most proficient tea drinker and jelly belly ingester.12:25
LaserJockactually, if I wasn't constantly going between OS X, Ubuntu, at home and at work I wouldn't use Google as much either12:25
LaserJockbut Google Reader isn't my favorite RSS reader12:26
LaserJockbut I like that I can mark something read at work and get home and it's still read ;-)12:26
willvdlLaserJock, who said anything about productivity?12:28
willvdlI can "beam up" my closing windows12:28
willvdlthat's jsut cool :)12:28
willvdlonly problem is my window title bars and edges have disappeared12:28
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pips1good morning09:45
LaserJockmorning pips109:45
pips1wow, you're up late, aren't you?09:46
pips1what's you're time diff?09:47
LaserJockI'm at -709:47
LaserJockso it's almost 1am09:47
pips1right-y-o09:48
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dean_zahi ogra , thanks for our help yesterday , i managed to get x11vnc installed but it does not work with the -forever -bg switches it works with -forever -loop &10:00
dean_zai found though that if i launch TCM from a thin client it hangs the pc as soon as the vncviewer screen show its own session10:01
dean_zai am going to re-install to check , before i do though i was hoping for some gudance regarding raid1 and swap10:02
dean_zai have read that it slows performance which i understand10:02
dean_zabut it got me thinking about the ltsp swap and weere it is created10:03
dean_zasurely having the swap directory for ltsp on a raid1 is a bad idea ?10:03
dean_zadoes anyone know where the swap files are created ? are they the same thing as the old swap for ltsp4.2 ? i seem to recall swap on nbd not sure what that is10:06
LaserJockI have no idea, but I don't think ogra is up yet10:07
dean_zasorry , the right hand screen has his name in the same font as mine , i figured it meant he was online10:08
LaserJockwell, he's always here :-)10:09
pips1people like to leave their irc running, even if they aren't at the computer... ogra will eventually read your message though10:09
LaserJockhe's just not exactly always here10:09
pips1(with a bit of luck)10:10
LaserJockRichEd: ping?10:10
pips1I don't think he is online10:11
LaserJockhmm10:11
RichEdhi guys ... lurking ... not feeling so good this morning10:11
pips1ah10:11
pips1hi RichEd10:11
dean_zaso anyone else have any thoughts on raid1 ?10:12
RichEdchange in the weather ... winter stuffy head & very little concentration ...10:12
pips1same here actually!10:12
LaserJockRichEd: quick question, do you want Education/Objectives stuff by email or can I edit the wiki page directly10:12
LaserJockRichEd: I saw your little "Don't touch" notice at the bottom of the page10:12
RichEdLaserJock: mail for the moment ... I may fiddle around in the page today10:12
RichEdthanks10:13
LaserJockRichEd: k10:13
pips1what other channel might be worth pinging with questions about raid experiences, folks?10:14
RichEdpips1: ubuntu ... edubuntu should be no different ?10:17
pips1nope, no difference10:17
pips1I just wonder where lots of people with raid experience might hang out? possibly #ubuntu-server or #LTSP10:18
pips1dean_za: try  ^^^10:18
RichEd#ubuntu-server I recokn10:18
RichEd*reckon10:18
pips1hmm, they recommend #ubuntu for general support, ubuntu-server is only for server kernel questions, I reckon10:19
pips1still worth trying10:20
LaserJockwell, if the question is how is swap handled in LTSP then #ltsp seems like the logical choice10:20
ogradean_za, would you mind fixing the wiki guide wrt vnc ?10:21
pips1yes, good point10:21
LaserJockin fact we might want to put a notice in the topic or a bot factoid about trying #ltsp for LTSP related questions10:21
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dean_zaorga: will do as soon as i have reinstalled and stopped the hanging10:22
LaserJockogra: did you see that bug reported about essentially blank sources.list after installing Feisty from DesktopCD?10:28
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willvdlmy my, nautilus is doing some funny stuff today11:35
ograLaserJock, i'm way behind on bugs ... (about 200 unread mails here) whats the number ?11:36
LaserJockogra: bug #11833411:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118334 in ubiquity "Edubuntu Feisty Desktop CD installation fails to install all repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11833411:37
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pips1willvdl: what's it doing then?11:38
willvdlit locks up if a specific ODT file is in a specific directory11:39
ograLaserJock, thats the right behavior if he installed without net connection11:39
willvdl:)11:39
LaserJockogra: hmm, I thought he said he did have a net connection11:39
ograif the installer sees there is no network it wont add any netwourk sources11:39
LaserJockogra: but I can ask to make sure11:39
pips1willvdl: ?! how bizarre11:39
LaserJockogra: he did have a net connection when I was helping him11:40
ograLaserJock, he doesnt say that in the bug11:40
ubunterrorHello! Need help, tried everything in the forums. Can't get video card to work, VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP on Edubuntu 7.0411:40
ograand i know that all my installs (which are all networkless) do it like that11:40
LaserJockogra: ok, I did a LiveCD install in vmware to see and it worked fine11:40
LaserJockso I think you must be right11:41
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LaserJockbut maybe there should be some sort of warning, explanation11:41
ograubunterror, it will work with the vesa driver or with that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome11:41
ograits a very badly (by via for linux) supported chip11:41
LaserJockthe poor guy couldn't figure out what was going on. He wanted the edu apps and was trying to install them via g-a-i but it wouldn't let him11:42
ograindeed11:42
LaserJockhe could see the apps, but couldn't install them, very frustrating11:42
willvdlpips1, it's completely unreproducable :)11:42
pips1hehe11:42
willvdlonly happens on one machine, with one file, in a specific directory11:43
willvdlmust be a weird inode thing11:43
ubunterrorogra: tried it, error message is frequency over range11:43
pips1yeah, perhaps11:43
ograubunterror, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:44
ogramake sure to select vesa and the right values for your monitor11:44
ograthat should give you an initial graphical interface11:45
ubunterrorogra: tried it, picked Vesa, 1024 x 700 something resolution. No go11:45
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ogra"frequency out of range" means that your monitor values are wrong11:45
ubunterrorogra: okay, what are the correct screen res and refresh rates?11:46
ograno idea, its your monitor11:46
ograshould be in the handbook11:46
ubunterrorogra: ok thanks, will check11:46
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ludoRAHello11:49
ubunterrorIm developing a curriculum for the computer subject for K-12, using Edubuntu (we want to junk our old MS curriculum). Any useful links?11:50
pips1RichEd: ping11:51
RichEdpips1: pong11:51
pips1do you have any links for ubunterror?11:51
pips1^^^11:51
RichEdubunterror: for computer programming subject ? I am not clear on your requirement11:52
pips1ubunterror: you are looking for curriculum suggestions, rather than content, right?11:53
ubunterrorRichEd, pips1: I'm looking for an outline I can work on, for kids to be able to use Edubuntu, starting age 5 until age 16. This will be the computer subject for our school.11:54
ubunterrorI cannot find sites where there are Edubuntu activities for children.11:55
ubunterrorSo I am developing my own, based on our current MS-based activities.11:56
pips1have a look at http://schoolforge.org.uk/index.php/ICT_Curriculum11:56
RichEdubunterror: let me look around a bit for you ... what country are you doing this for as a matter of interest ?11:56
pips1ubunterror: where are you based? do you need to follow national curriculum guidelines, or do you have freedom to develop own?11:56
pips1ubunterror: the above link i gave is UK specific...11:57
ubunterrorpips1: Philippines. We have the freedom to develop, and i'm trying hard to make a curriculum and push Edubuntu to schools here, since a lot of them use unlicensed software. The link is a good outline, if there are some which are more detailed, it would be very helpful.12:00
RichEdubunterror: this page has just been started, but it may be a useful place to share info: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Lessons12:01
jsgotangconice nick btw12:01
ubunterrorRichEd: Thanks for the link, will look into it. I'm actually looking into a stand-alone computer subject which concentrates wholly on open source, using Edubuntu as OS.12:04
ubunterrorjsg: :)12:05
cliebow   RichEd:how did it go yesterdaay?12:05
RichEdcliebow: will get back to you is a few minutes ... let me sort out the thread with ubunterror12:06
RichEdsorry ubunterror I am still not clear ... my head is fuzzy with the flu today ... are you looking to teach "computers as a subject ... i.e. programming etc." or to use computers (edubuntu) to teach general subjects12:07
cliebowno prob..any timke12:08
ubunterrorRichEd: teaching computers as a subject. Of course, the activities will be useful as they will be related to the other subjects.12:09
jsgotangcoubunterror: i am from philippines too btw ;-)12:09
pips1ubunterror: I don't know if the following site will be any use to you, but cetis from the uk has lots of online resources, and some are really usefull... have a look at http://dfl.cetis.ac.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ?12:10
RichEdhere is a Google SoC that may be related ... it is still being developed:12:10
RichEdhttp://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/appinfo.html?csaid=F43382157E7D628C12:10
RichEdPyStart - Python Programming teaching/testing program12:11
ubunterrorpips1, RichEd: Thanks for your assistance! I will certainly spend some time studying these sites, and get back here for some feedback and updates.12:14
pips1:-)12:18
RichEdubunterror & pips1 : comment from willvdl12:20
RichEd<willvdl> Karien at TSF suggest http://www.curriki.org as one of the best there is12:20
pips1*click*12:21
pips1hmm12:24
pips1well, the advanced search categories look promisingly structured, but I'm not sure how much content is actually there..12:27
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pips1interesting... "result of ... GELC ... started by Sun Microsystems"12:28
pips1maybe I should move my random mutterings over to #ubuntu-education12:29
ubunterrorhe he he, a lot of the resources are in .doc12:30
pips1:-/12:31
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Kamping_Kaiserok :| hope you feel better soon12:59
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moquistHmm. I have no virtual terminals on this feisty desktop system. I only have X.02:11
ogramoquist, what graphics card ? ati ?02:12
moquistnVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT]  and Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated02:13
moquistdual-head02:13
pips1hi moquist02:14
moquistpips1: hey02:15
ogramoquist, nv or nvidia driver ?02:15
moquistnv02:15
ograhmm02:15
ogradid you try with the nonfree one ?02:15
moquistogra: I didn't mean that somebody in here had to help me fix it. :) I was just mentioning it...02:16
ograoh, wait riva-tnt should need the -legacy driver iirc02:16
moquistogra: really? this would affect the virtual terminals starting up?02:16
ograno, but probably your possibility to switch02:16
ograare you sure there are no gettys ?02:17
moquistHmm.02:17
moquisthttp://n01se.net/paste/O9X02:18
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ogra ls /etc/event.d/02:19
ogra?02:19
moquistcontrol-alt-delete  logd  rc-default  rc0  rc1  rc2  rc3  rc4  rc5  rc6  rcS  rcS-sulogin  sulogin  tty1  tty2  tty3  tty4  tty5  tty602:19
ograhmm02:20
moquistYeah, I haven't really tried to grok upstart yet. :p02:20
ograupstart bug probably ....02:20
moquistThis is an upgrade-from-edgy system.02:20
ograaand you didnt use apt for it i hope02:20
moquist?02:22
moquistapt-get update; apt-get upgrade02:22
moquistis that bad?02:22
ograyes02:22
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ograhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading02:22
moquistoy02:22
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moquist!! OK, so is it acceptible to use the server upgrade even on a desktop system?02:24
ograindeed02:24
moquistHeh... I think the double-bang fired up ubotu.02:24
ograand see the very bottom :)02:24
moquistogra: Yeah, I see that.02:24
moquistI never was a debian user, but doesn't recommending against apt-get for upgrades kinda...rub debian folks the wrong way?02:25
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moquistI don't mind doing things the right way, I'm still just getting used to this change in what I thought that was. :)02:26
ograwell, there are so many changes apt-cant cover ... like the switch to UUID entries for the whole system instead of /dev/[h,s] dX02:26
ograthese are things where files need to get rewritten etc ...02:27
moquistha ha! sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:27
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moquistOK.\02:27
moquistI probably did have to re-start apt-get dist-upgrade, and I just don't remember.02:28
moquistThat's happened to me various times in the past, and things always seemed to come out OK.02:28
moquistI also switched from UUIDs back to /dev/[h,s] d[abc]  in some cases, since I was copying OSes from box to box... I suppose that's bad, too. :)02:28
ograthat will break02:29
ograjust run vol_id for the disks you want to add ;)02:29
ograit tellys you the UUID02:29
moquistok02:29
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erlingrewhat is the status of diskless edubuntu/ubuntu?02:30
ograerlingre, status in what way ?02:31
ograits the state of the art ltsp implementation02:31
pips1erlingre: by diskless, do you mean thin clients?02:31
erlingreogra: but does ubuntu/edubuntu provide a diskless solution? where the client is a regular pc, running all software, but without any storage and mounting / from a server02:32
pips1ah02:33
ograerlingre, not yet out of the box ...02:34
ograyou can set it up manually though02:34
ografor an out of the box setup we're missing an out of the box network auth mechanism ... if you have that running, its as easy as:sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install edubuntu-desktop02:35
erlingreI have a mostly working setup where I just installed ubuntu on a pc, rsynced to a Debian server, exports one rootfs for each client and a shared ro. Only one problem. While mounting the shared usr the clients stalls for more than one minute and finally prints a "failed" message even if /usr really is mounted. I have checked everything I can think of several times, but have not yet managed to fix it02:35
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ograwhat do you mean by you rsynced an ubuntu system to a debian server ?02:36
erlingreI just used rsync to copy the entire Ubuntu system to a debian fileserver to a directory like /ubuntu_feisty/ and later exported that directory to diskless clients by NFS02:37
ograright, but you will need REW parts in the system02:38
ogra*RW02:38
erlingreyes02:38
ograthats what the ltsp setup usually cares for02:38
ograhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall02:38
erlingreI create a new rootfs for each diskless client based on the files in /ubuntu_feisty/02:38
erlingreDo you think it is a better approach to follow the ltsp tutorials and just use /opt/ltsp/i386?02:40
ograwell, ltsp has some easy mechanisms to mount files and dirs into a tmpfs if it needs them RW02:40
ograit also autodetects sound and X setup ...02:41
erlingremaybe I try that approach if I give up the manual setup I have now02:42
erlingreexept the nfs mounting problems it works okay so far02:42
ograwell, its a lot of maintenance work to care for so many chroots02:43
ograwith the ltsp setup you can just have one :)02:43
erlingredo you have any suggestions for long delays during nfs mounts? I check with rpcifo -p. The client runs portmapper, nlockmgr, and status. The server runs nfs and mountd in addition.02:44
ograhow about portmap :)02:44
ograah, you listed it, sorry i'm blind today02:44
ograerr, do you run it on the server as well ?02:45
erlingreyes..02:45
ograno weird hosts.allow/.deny entries ?02:45
erlingreI have also tried a diskless Debian etch setup from the same server and do not experience such problems so it must be something with the Ubuntu client setup02:45
ogradebian etchs ltsp implementation is very old02:46
ograits what we shipped in dapper02:46
ograor somewhere between dapper and edgy02:46
erlingreI don't use any ltsp stuff in Debian etch. Just a plain Debian install on a pc and copy that install to the server and export it to clients later02:47
ograah02:47
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moquistogra: I'm pretty sure that back in the day I specified the 'nv' driver manually (this is a customized dual-head setup), so I'll try another driver and see where I get.03:00
ograwell03:00
ograyou dont have gettys03:00
ograits no X bug03:00
ograits upstart that isnt set up correctly03:01
ace_suares!paste03:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:01
moquistogra: Heh; right. I got distracted for a while and came back to the problem remembering only 75% of our previous conversation.03:02
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moquisteh, shouldn't I be able to run the getty command in /etc/event.d/tty1 and get a TTY on tty1?03:04
moquistIt didn't work...03:04
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ograheh, did you look inside ?03:06
ograits no script :)03:06
moquisthunh? I just executed '/sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' as root, but got no login prompt on TTY1 when I switched.03:06
moquistogra: thx for the upgrading link, BTW. I'm going to send that to several colleagues who probably do apt-get dist-upgrade :)03:07
ograleave that to upstart ;)03:07
ograright03:07
ogranobody should use apt for upgrades since edgy anymore ... we made very prominent announcements about that03:08
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moquistogra: Right, upstart should start getty for me. But given that it isn't, shouldn't root be able to start it?03:11
moquisti.e., given that I just ran getty as root, using the command found in /etc/event.d/tty1, and it didn't start a tty, perhaps upstart is doing the right thing but getty isn't.03:12
highvoltagehttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/05/25/153621903:13
highvoltagemoquist: did you try pre-seeding with ubiquity? did it work?03:14
ogramoquist, very unlikely03:14
ogramoquist, dpkg -l upstart ?03:14
moquist0.3.8-103:14
moquistogra: Hmm. OK.03:14
ogradpkg -l|grep sysv03:14
moquisthighvoltage: not yet03:15
ograshoudl return: upstart-compat-sysv sysvutils and sysv-rc03:15
moquisthttp://n01se.net/paste/g5?pretty=no03:15
moquistogra: yep03:15
moquisthighvoltage: I've got to get the server install CD booting properly on the network first and I'll try preseeding there (so I know what I'm doing), and then I'll try it again with ubiquity03:16
moquisthighvoltage: strangely enough, casper turned out to be the wrong thing to use for the non-Live install CDs ;)03:16
moquisti.e., the boot=casper stuff seems not to be working.03:17
moquist(for server, alternate, edubuntu-server)03:17
ograhow should it ?03:18
ogracasper is the liveCD part for initramfs03:18
highvoltagemoquist: yes, indeed :)03:19
moquistogra: Yeah, that's why I was winking. *Of course* it shouldn't work, but that didn't occur to me until after I tried it.03:19
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sbalneavMorning all03:22
moquisthiya, sbalneav03:24
sbalneavHey moquist03:25
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basehello04:18
pips1hi04:20
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willvdlcatch y'all later at the meeting05:23
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moquistanybody know what sets the fs.file-max kernel param? I've just checked several different Ubuntu boxes here and they all have different values, and I didn't set them.06:43
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LaserJockogra: what's cjwatson talking about?07:49
ograbuilding the livefs07:49
ograin former releases it wasnt possible for me to build any livefses07:49
ograor for riddell07:50
ograthats a new feature since january07:50
LaserJockso now you guys can build the livefs?07:51
ograright07:54
ograwhich makes everything easier07:54
ograhah, and my virtualbox install succeeded too07:55
ograso the i386 iso seems good to go ...07:55
ogralooks pretty good for a first milestone iso07:55
ograLaserJock. did Keybuk talk to you about SoC ?07:56
LaserJockogra: yes08:04
ogragood08:06
LaserJockso I'm mentoring a grub frontend08:06
ograheh08:06
LaserJockor rather grub config guid08:07
LaserJock*gui08:07
ograi once wrote a very simple one for warty ...08:07
ograactually my first python proggy08:07
ograi won a network monitoring SoC today as well btw :)08:08
ograhttp://www.grawert.net/software/startup-settings/index.html :)08:09
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LaserJockogra: still around?08:34
LaserJockwell, I guess this might be more for RichEd08:35
LaserJockbut I just had a conversation with one of the IT heads of my uni08:35
LaserJockhe's a big fan of Ubuntu08:36
ogranice :)08:36
LaserJockI think he might be interested in some "Edubuntu in Universities" type stuff08:36
LaserJockhe's particularly interested in network auth and AD08:36
LaserJockhe's got a group of math students that prefer to use Linux08:37
LaserJockbut he'd like to be able to integrate them better into the uni network08:37
LaserJockogra: is cjwatson going to fix the "Desktop CD doesn't install edu apps" problem or is that something we have to handle? I can't remember what you said last time we talked about it08:47
ograi hav to discuss that with him08:48
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LaserJockogra: well, I still haven't been able to track down how the applications.menu and app-install directory get placed on the Add-on CD08:52
LaserJockogra: I talked to mvo and pitti, who else might know? cjwatson?08:52
ograyes08:53
LaserJockit'd be nice to be able to get all the installer/disc issues done by tribe 308:57
ograwell, i'm not even sue we'll have a tribe109:04
ogra*sure09:04
ograi'm heavily fighting here09:04
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ogra******* Reminder Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 6 min ********09:54
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ogra******* Reminder Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 3 min ********09:57
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willvdlhowdi09:57
ograhey hey09:57
willvdlI take it Rich is down with the flu09:58
ograwillvdl. i wll try to keep my part as short as possible today, i'm still not done with building the liveCD and have a nightshift ahead09:58
willvdlsame here09:58
willvdlnightshift?09:58
ograseems there was an issue with the buildds that made the livefs builder not pick up my changes, so we still have oversized untested isos for tomorrows milestone release09:59
ograi'm tryig to get that fixed tonight09:59
willvdleek10:00
ogra******* Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting starting now ********10:00
willvdldon't worry, I just want to talk website :)10:00
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LaserJockogra: is  20070606.1 right for the server cds?11:45
ograyes11:45
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LaserJockalright, I really need to get some real work done11:49
LaserJocksee you all later11:49
ograbye bye11:50
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willvdlnixternal still here?11:52
cliebow  #ubuntu-meetiing11:58
willvdlmeeting is over :)11:59
cliebowyeaha..i got busy..then got home and saw the msg12:00

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