[12:21] well, I use it pretty heavily for email, calendaring, RSS [12:22] then there's google groups from my LUG, there's notebook, scholar, translation [12:22] s/from/for/ [12:23] I use Google for Web searches. [12:24] sometimes I even do that ;-) [12:24] I have a gmail account, but I never use it. It's also connected to my blog, which I never use. [12:25] too busy doing important things I guess [12:25] I told you - I'm the world's most proficient tea drinker and jelly belly ingester. [12:25] actually, if I wasn't constantly going between OS X, Ubuntu, at home and at work I wouldn't use Google as much either [12:26] but Google Reader isn't my favorite RSS reader [12:26] but I like that I can mark something read at work and get home and it's still read ;-) [12:28] LaserJock, who said anything about productivity? 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[09:47] what's you're time diff? [09:47] I'm at -7 [09:47] so it's almost 1am [09:48] right-y-o === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === dean_za [n=dean@196.211.20.58] has joined #edubuntu [10:00] hi ogra , thanks for our help yesterday , i managed to get x11vnc installed but it does not work with the -forever -bg switches it works with -forever -loop & [10:01] i found though that if i launch TCM from a thin client it hangs the pc as soon as the vncviewer screen show its own session [10:02] i am going to re-install to check , before i do though i was hoping for some gudance regarding raid1 and swap [10:02] i have read that it slows performance which i understand [10:03] but it got me thinking about the ltsp swap and weere it is created [10:03] surely having the swap directory for ltsp on a raid1 is a bad idea ? [10:06] does anyone know where the swap files are created ? are they the same thing as the old swap for ltsp4.2 ? i seem to recall swap on nbd not sure what that is [10:07] I have no idea, but I don't think ogra is up yet [10:08] sorry , the right hand screen has his name in the same font as mine , i figured it meant he was online [10:09] well, he's always here :-) [10:09] people like to leave their irc running, even if they aren't at the computer... ogra will eventually read your message though [10:09] he's just not exactly always here [10:10] (with a bit of luck) [10:10] RichEd: ping? [10:11] I don't think he is online [10:11] hmm [10:11] hi guys ... lurking ... not feeling so good this morning [10:11] ah [10:11] hi RichEd [10:12] so anyone else have any thoughts on raid1 ? [10:12] change in the weather ... winter stuffy head & very little concentration ... [10:12] same here actually! [10:12] RichEd: quick question, do you want Education/Objectives stuff by email or can I edit the wiki page directly [10:12] RichEd: I saw your little "Don't touch" notice at the bottom of the page [10:12] LaserJock: mail for the moment ... I may fiddle around in the page today [10:13] thanks [10:13] RichEd: k [10:14] what other channel might be worth pinging with questions about raid experiences, folks? [10:17] pips1: ubuntu ... edubuntu should be no different ? [10:17] nope, no difference [10:18] I just wonder where lots of people with raid experience might hang out? possibly #ubuntu-server or #LTSP [10:18] dean_za: try ^^^ [10:18] #ubuntu-server I recokn [10:18] *reckon [10:19] hmm, they recommend #ubuntu for general support, ubuntu-server is only for server kernel questions, I reckon [10:20] still worth trying [10:20] well, if the question is how is swap handled in LTSP then #ltsp seems like the logical choice [10:21] dean_za, would you mind fixing the wiki guide wrt vnc ? [10:21] yes, good point [10:21] in fact we might want to put a notice in the topic or a bot factoid about trying #ltsp for LTSP related questions === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [10:22] orga: will do as soon as i have reinstalled and stopped the hanging [10:28] ogra: did you see that bug reported about essentially blank sources.list after installing Feisty from DesktopCD? === willvdl [n=will@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-9c40da49661a5067] has joined #edubuntu [11:35] my my, nautilus is doing some funny stuff today [11:36] LaserJock, i'm way behind on bugs ... (about 200 unread mails here) whats the number ? [11:37] ogra: bug #118334 [11:37] Launchpad bug 118334 in ubiquity "Edubuntu Feisty Desktop CD installation fails to install all repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118334 === ubunterror [n=squidwar@202.73.176.250] has joined #edubuntu [11:38] willvdl: what's it doing then? [11:39] it locks up if a specific ODT file is in a specific directory [11:39] LaserJock, thats the right behavior if he installed without net connection [11:39] :) [11:39] ogra: hmm, I thought he said he did have a net connection [11:39] if the installer sees there is no network it wont add any netwourk sources [11:39] ogra: but I can ask to make sure [11:39] willvdl: ?! how bizarre [11:40] ogra: he did have a net connection when I was helping him [11:40] LaserJock, he doesnt say that in the bug [11:40] Hello! Need help, tried everything in the forums. Can't get video card to work, VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP on Edubuntu 7.04 [11:40] and i know that all my installs (which are all networkless) do it like that [11:40] ogra: ok, I did a LiveCD install in vmware to see and it worked fine [11:41] so I think you must be right === bronze [n=Lester@c-24-62-225-133.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:41] but maybe there should be some sort of warning, explanation [11:41] ubunterror, it will work with the vesa driver or with that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome [11:41] its a very badly (by via for linux) supported chip [11:42] the poor guy couldn't figure out what was going on. He wanted the edu apps and was trying to install them via g-a-i but it wouldn't let him [11:42] indeed [11:42] he could see the apps, but couldn't install them, very frustrating [11:42] pips1, it's completely unreproducable :) [11:42] hehe [11:43] only happens on one machine, with one file, in a specific directory [11:43] must be a weird inode thing [11:43] ogra: tried it, error message is frequency over range [11:43] yeah, perhaps [11:44] ubunterror, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [11:44] make sure to select vesa and the right values for your monitor [11:45] that should give you an initial graphical interface [11:45] ogra: tried it, picked Vesa, 1024 x 700 something resolution. No go === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [11:45] "frequency out of range" means that your monitor values are wrong [11:46] ogra: okay, what are the correct screen res and refresh rates? [11:46] no idea, its your monitor [11:46] should be in the handbook [11:46] ogra: ok thanks, will check === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@63.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu [11:49] Hello [11:50] Im developing a curriculum for the computer subject for K-12, using Edubuntu (we want to junk our old MS curriculum). Any useful links? [11:51] RichEd: ping [11:51] pips1: pong [11:51] do you have any links for ubunterror? [11:51] ^^^ [11:52] ubunterror: for computer programming subject ? I am not clear on your requirement [11:53] ubunterror: you are looking for curriculum suggestions, rather than content, right? [11:54] RichEd, pips1: I'm looking for an outline I can work on, for kids to be able to use Edubuntu, starting age 5 until age 16. This will be the computer subject for our school. [11:55] I cannot find sites where there are Edubuntu activities for children. [11:56] So I am developing my own, based on our current MS-based activities. [11:56] have a look at http://schoolforge.org.uk/index.php/ICT_Curriculum [11:56] ubunterror: let me look around a bit for you ... what country are you doing this for as a matter of interest ? [11:56] ubunterror: where are you based? do you need to follow national curriculum guidelines, or do you have freedom to develop own? [11:57] ubunterror: the above link i gave is UK specific... [12:00] pips1: Philippines. We have the freedom to develop, and i'm trying hard to make a curriculum and push Edubuntu to schools here, since a lot of them use unlicensed software. The link is a good outline, if there are some which are more detailed, it would be very helpful. [12:01] ubunterror: this page has just been started, but it may be a useful place to share info: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Lessons [12:01] nice nick btw [12:04] RichEd: Thanks for the link, will look into it. I'm actually looking into a stand-alone computer subject which concentrates wholly on open source, using Edubuntu as OS. [12:05] jsg: :) [12:05] RichEd:how did it go yesterdaay? [12:06] cliebow: will get back to you is a few minutes ... let me sort out the thread with ubunterror [12:07] sorry ubunterror I am still not clear ... my head is fuzzy with the flu today ... are you looking to teach "computers as a subject ... i.e. programming etc." or to use computers (edubuntu) to teach general subjects [12:08] no prob..any timke [12:09] RichEd: teaching computers as a subject. Of course, the activities will be useful as they will be related to the other subjects. [12:09] ubunterror: i am from philippines too btw ;-) [12:10] ubunterror: I don't know if the following site will be any use to you, but cetis from the uk has lots of online resources, and some are really usefull... have a look at http://dfl.cetis.ac.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ? [12:10] here is a Google SoC that may be related ... it is still being developed: [12:10] http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/appinfo.html?csaid=F43382157E7D628C [12:11] PyStart - Python Programming teaching/testing program [12:14] pips1, RichEd: Thanks for your assistance! I will certainly spend some time studying these sites, and get back here for some feedback and updates. [12:18] :-) [12:20] ubunterror & pips1 : comment from willvdl [12:20] Karien at TSF suggest http://www.curriki.org as one of the best there is [12:21] *click* [12:24] hmm [12:27] well, the advanced search categories look promisingly structured, but I'm not sure how much content is actually there.. === pips1 investigates a bit more [12:28] interesting... "result of ... GELC ... started by Sun Microsystems" [12:29] maybe I should move my random mutterings over to #ubuntu-education [12:30] he he he, a lot of the resources are in .doc [12:31] :-/ === `6og is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@63.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@63.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === RichEd goes to lie down for a bit ... feeling pretty grim [12:59] ok :| hope you feel better soon === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@63.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #Edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #edubuntu [02:11] Hmm. I have no virtual terminals on this feisty desktop system. I only have X. [02:12] moquist, what graphics card ? ati ? [02:13] nVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT] and Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated [02:13] dual-head [02:14] hi moquist [02:15] pips1: hey [02:15] moquist, nv or nvidia driver ? [02:15] nv [02:15] hmm [02:15] did you try with the nonfree one ? [02:16] ogra: I didn't mean that somebody in here had to help me fix it. :) I was just mentioning it... [02:16] oh, wait riva-tnt should need the -legacy driver iirc [02:16] ogra: really? this would affect the virtual terminals starting up? [02:16] no, but probably your possibility to switch [02:17] are you sure there are no gettys ? [02:17] Hmm. [02:18] http://n01se.net/paste/O9X === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@63.187.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #Edubuntu ["A] [02:19] ls /etc/event.d/ [02:19] ? [02:19] control-alt-delete logd rc-default rc0 rc1 rc2 rc3 rc4 rc5 rc6 rcS rcS-sulogin sulogin tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 [02:20] hmm [02:20] Yeah, I haven't really tried to grok upstart yet. :p [02:20] upstart bug probably .... [02:20] This is an upgrade-from-edgy system. [02:20] aand you didnt use apt for it i hope [02:22] ? [02:22] apt-get update; apt-get upgrade [02:22] is that bad? [02:22] yes === moquist thought he was doing the "good" thing for non-GUI folks [02:22] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [02:22] oy === moquist goes to read [02:24] !! OK, so is it acceptible to use the server upgrade even on a desktop system? [02:24] indeed [02:24] Heh... I think the double-bang fired up ubotu. [02:24] and see the very bottom :) [02:24] ogra: Yeah, I see that. [02:25] I never was a debian user, but doesn't recommending against apt-get for upgrades kinda...rub debian folks the wrong way? === moquist thought 'apt-*' were the classic, CLI-happy, good-to-use tools === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [02:26] I don't mind doing things the right way, I'm still just getting used to this change in what I thought that was. :) [02:26] well, there are so many changes apt-cant cover ... like the switch to UUID entries for the whole system instead of /dev/[h,s] dX [02:27] these are things where files need to get rewritten etc ... [02:27] ha ha! sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade === moquist nods [02:27] OK.\ [02:28] I probably did have to re-start apt-get dist-upgrade, and I just don't remember. [02:28] That's happened to me various times in the past, and things always seemed to come out OK. [02:28] I also switched from UUIDs back to /dev/[h,s] d[abc] in some cases, since I was copying OSes from box to box... I suppose that's bad, too. :) [02:29] that will break [02:29] just run vol_id for the disks you want to add ;) [02:29] it tellys you the UUID [02:29] ok === moquist was just going to ask that [02:30] what is the status of diskless edubuntu/ubuntu? [02:31] erlingre, status in what way ? [02:31] its the state of the art ltsp implementation [02:31] erlingre: by diskless, do you mean thin clients? [02:32] ogra: but does ubuntu/edubuntu provide a diskless solution? where the client is a regular pc, running all software, but without any storage and mounting / from a server [02:33] ah [02:34] erlingre, not yet out of the box ... [02:34] you can set it up manually though [02:35] for an out of the box setup we're missing an out of the box network auth mechanism ... if you have that running, its as easy as:sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install edubuntu-desktop [02:35] I have a mostly working setup where I just installed ubuntu on a pc, rsynced to a Debian server, exports one rootfs for each client and a shared ro. Only one problem. While mounting the shared usr the clients stalls for more than one minute and finally prints a "failed" message even if /usr really is mounted. I have checked everything I can think of several times, but have not yet managed to fix it === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu [02:36] what do you mean by you rsynced an ubuntu system to a debian server ? [02:37] I just used rsync to copy the entire Ubuntu system to a debian fileserver to a directory like /ubuntu_feisty/ and later exported that directory to diskless clients by NFS [02:38] right, but you will need REW parts in the system [02:38] *RW [02:38] yes [02:38] thats what the ltsp setup usually cares for [02:38] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall [02:38] I create a new rootfs for each diskless client based on the files in /ubuntu_feisty/ [02:40] Do you think it is a better approach to follow the ltsp tutorials and just use /opt/ltsp/i386? [02:40] well, ltsp has some easy mechanisms to mount files and dirs into a tmpfs if it needs them RW [02:41] it also autodetects sound and X setup ... [02:42] maybe I try that approach if I give up the manual setup I have now [02:42] exept the nfs mounting problems it works okay so far [02:43] well, its a lot of maintenance work to care for so many chroots [02:43] with the ltsp setup you can just have one :) [02:44] do you have any suggestions for long delays during nfs mounts? I check with rpcifo -p. The client runs portmapper, nlockmgr, and status. The server runs nfs and mountd in addition. [02:44] how about portmap :) [02:44] ah, you listed it, sorry i'm blind today [02:45] err, do you run it on the server as well ? [02:45] yes.. [02:45] no weird hosts.allow/.deny entries ? [02:45] I have also tried a diskless Debian etch setup from the same server and do not experience such problems so it must be something with the Ubuntu client setup [02:46] debian etchs ltsp implementation is very old [02:46] its what we shipped in dapper [02:46] or somewhere between dapper and edgy [02:47] I don't use any ltsp stuff in Debian etch. Just a plain Debian install on a pc and copy that install to the server and export it to clients later [02:47] ah === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu === boxrock [n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:00] ogra: I'm pretty sure that back in the day I specified the 'nv' driver manually (this is a customized dual-head setup), so I'll try another driver and see where I get. [03:00] well [03:00] you dont have gettys [03:00] its no X bug [03:01] its upstart that isnt set up correctly [03:01] !paste [03:01] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [03:02] ogra: Heh; right. I got distracted for a while and came back to the problem remembering only 75% of our previous conversation. === moquist looks into the gettys [03:04] eh, shouldn't I be able to run the getty command in /etc/event.d/tty1 and get a TTY on tty1? [03:04] It didn't work... === aze [n=aze@208.76.31.180] has joined #edubuntu [03:06] heh, did you look inside ? [03:06] its no script :) [03:06] hunh? I just executed '/sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' as root, but got no login prompt on TTY1 when I switched. [03:07] ogra: thx for the upgrading link, BTW. I'm going to send that to several colleagues who probably do apt-get dist-upgrade :) [03:07] leave that to upstart ;) [03:07] right [03:08] nobody should use apt for upgrades since edgy anymore ... we made very prominent announcements about that === moquist missed the memo [03:11] ogra: Right, upstart should start getty for me. But given that it isn't, shouldn't root be able to start it? [03:12] i.e., given that I just ran getty as root, using the command found in /etc/event.d/tty1, and it didn't start a tty, perhaps upstart is doing the right thing but getty isn't. [03:13] http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/05/25/1536219 [03:14] moquist: did you try pre-seeding with ubiquity? did it work? [03:14] moquist, very unlikely [03:14] moquist, dpkg -l upstart ? [03:14] 0.3.8-1 [03:14] ogra: Hmm. OK. [03:14] dpkg -l|grep sysv [03:15] highvoltage: not yet [03:15] shoudl return: upstart-compat-sysv sysvutils and sysv-rc [03:15] http://n01se.net/paste/g5?pretty=no [03:15] ogra: yep [03:16] highvoltage: I've got to get the server install CD booting properly on the network first and I'll try preseeding there (so I know what I'm doing), and then I'll try it again with ubiquity [03:16] highvoltage: strangely enough, casper turned out to be the wrong thing to use for the non-Live install CDs ;) [03:17] i.e., the boot=casper stuff seems not to be working. [03:17] (for server, alternate, edubuntu-server) [03:18] how should it ? [03:18] casper is the liveCD part for initramfs [03:19] moquist: yes, indeed :) [03:19] ogra: Yeah, that's why I was winking. *Of course* it shouldn't work, but that didn't occur to me until after I tried it. === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:22] Morning all [03:24] hiya, sbalneav [03:25] Hey moquist === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === base [n=base@cpe-68-203-213-62.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:18] hello [04:20] hi === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.124] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d428a1.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [05:23] catch y'all later at the meeting === humbolto [n=elias@217.19.46.10] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu === boxrock_ [n=chatzill@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@smoothwallkludge.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has left #Edubuntu ["A] [06:43] anybody know what sets the fs.file-max kernel param? I've just checked several different Ubuntu boxes here and they all have different values, and I didn't set them. === aze [n=aze@208.76.31.41] has joined #edubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A95FA3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [07:49] ogra: what's cjwatson talking about? [07:49] building the livefs [07:49] in former releases it wasnt possible for me to build any livefses [07:50] or for riddell [07:50] thats a new feature since january [07:51] so now you guys can build the livefs? [07:54] right [07:54] which makes everything easier [07:55] hah, and my virtualbox install succeeded too [07:55] so the i386 iso seems good to go ... [07:55] looks pretty good for a first milestone iso [07:56] LaserJock. did Keybuk talk to you about SoC ? [08:04] ogra: yes [08:06] good [08:06] so I'm mentoring a grub frontend [08:06] heh [08:07] or rather grub config guid [08:07] *gui [08:07] i once wrote a very simple one for warty ... [08:07] actually my first python proggy [08:08] i won a network monitoring SoC today as well btw :) [08:09] http://www.grawert.net/software/startup-settings/index.html :) === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.124] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-139-170.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool209.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === boxrock_ [n=chatzill@000-028-225.area3.spcsdns.net] has joined #edubuntu === boxrock_ is now known as boxrock === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.105.238] has joined #edubuntu [08:34] ogra: still around? [08:35] well, I guess this might be more for RichEd [08:35] but I just had a conversation with one of the IT heads of my uni [08:36] he's a big fan of Ubuntu [08:36] nice :) [08:36] I think he might be interested in some "Edubuntu in Universities" type stuff [08:36] he's particularly interested in network auth and AD [08:37] he's got a group of math students that prefer to use Linux [08:37] but he'd like to be able to integrate them better into the uni network [08:47] ogra: is cjwatson going to fix the "Desktop CD doesn't install edu apps" problem or is that something we have to handle? I can't remember what you said last time we talked about it [08:48] i hav to discuss that with him === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:52] ogra: well, I still haven't been able to track down how the applications.menu and app-install directory get placed on the Add-on CD [08:52] ogra: I talked to mvo and pitti, who else might know? cjwatson? [08:53] yes [08:57] it'd be nice to be able to get all the installer/disc issues done by tribe 3 [09:04] well, i'm not even sue we'll have a tribe1 [09:04] *sure [09:04] i'm heavily fighting here === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@49.187.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 is now known as pips1_back-at-20 [09:54] ******* Reminder Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 6 min ******** === pips1_back-at-20 is now known as pips1 [09:57] ******* Reminder Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 3 min ******** === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] howdi [09:57] hey hey [09:58] I take it Rich is down with the flu [09:58] willvdl. i wll try to keep my part as short as possible today, i'm still not done with building the liveCD and have a nightshift ahead [09:58] same here [09:58] nightshift? [09:59] seems there was an issue with the buildds that made the livefs builder not pick up my changes, so we still have oversized untested isos for tomorrows milestone release [09:59] i'm tryig to get that fixed tonight [10:00] eek [10:00] ******* Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting starting now ******** [10:00] don't worry, I just want to talk website :) === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu [11:45] ogra: is 20070606.1 right for the server cds? [11:45] yes === t94xr-lappy [n=sdfsd@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu [11:49] alright, I really need to get some real work done [11:49] see you all later [11:50] bye bye === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [11:52] nixternal still here? [11:58] #ubuntu-meetiing [11:59] meeting is over :) [12:00] yeaha..i got busy..then got home and saw the msg