[12:21] <LaserJock> well, I use it pretty heavily for email, calendaring, RSS
[12:22] <LaserJock> then there's google groups from my LUG, there's notebook, scholar, translation
[12:22] <LaserJock> s/from/for/
[12:23] <crimsun> I use Google for Web searches.
[12:24] <LaserJock> sometimes I even do that ;-)
[12:24] <crimsun> I have a gmail account, but I never use it.  It's also connected to my blog, which I never use.
[12:25] <LaserJock> too busy doing important things I guess
[12:25] <crimsun> I told you - I'm the world's most proficient tea drinker and jelly belly ingester.
[12:25] <LaserJock> actually, if I wasn't constantly going between OS X, Ubuntu, at home and at work I wouldn't use Google as much either
[12:26] <LaserJock> but Google Reader isn't my favorite RSS reader
[12:26] <LaserJock> but I like that I can mark something read at work and get home and it's still read ;-)
[12:28] <willvdl> LaserJock, who said anything about productivity?
[12:28] <willvdl> I can "beam up" my closing windows
[12:28] <willvdl> that's jsut cool :)
[12:28] <willvdl> only problem is my window title bars and edges have disappeared
[01:38] <Francis_Albert_l> hi
[09:45] <pips1> good morning
[09:45] <LaserJock> morning pips1
[09:46] <pips1> wow, you're up late, aren't you?
[09:47] <pips1> what's you're time diff?
[09:47] <LaserJock> I'm at -7
[09:47] <LaserJock> so it's almost 1am
[09:48] <pips1> right-y-o
[10:00] <dean_za> hi ogra , thanks for our help yesterday , i managed to get x11vnc installed but it does not work with the -forever -bg switches it works with -forever -loop &
[10:01] <dean_za> i found though that if i launch TCM from a thin client it hangs the pc as soon as the vncviewer screen show its own session
[10:02] <dean_za> i am going to re-install to check , before i do though i was hoping for some gudance regarding raid1 and swap
[10:02] <dean_za> i have read that it slows performance which i understand
[10:03] <dean_za> but it got me thinking about the ltsp swap and weere it is created
[10:03] <dean_za> surely having the swap directory for ltsp on a raid1 is a bad idea ?
[10:06] <dean_za> does anyone know where the swap files are created ? are they the same thing as the old swap for ltsp4.2 ? i seem to recall swap on nbd not sure what that is
[10:07] <LaserJock> I have no idea, but I don't think ogra is up yet
[10:08] <dean_za> sorry , the right hand screen has his name in the same font as mine , i figured it meant he was online
[10:09] <LaserJock> well, he's always here :-)
[10:09] <pips1> people like to leave their irc running, even if they aren't at the computer... ogra will eventually read your message though
[10:09] <LaserJock> he's just not exactly always here
[10:10] <pips1> (with a bit of luck)
[10:10] <LaserJock> RichEd: ping?
[10:11] <pips1> I don't think he is online
[10:11] <LaserJock> hmm
[10:11] <RichEd> hi guys ... lurking ... not feeling so good this morning
[10:11] <pips1> ah
[10:11] <pips1> hi RichEd
[10:12] <dean_za> so anyone else have any thoughts on raid1 ?
[10:12] <RichEd> change in the weather ... winter stuffy head & very little concentration ...
[10:12] <pips1> same here actually!
[10:12] <LaserJock> RichEd: quick question, do you want Education/Objectives stuff by email or can I edit the wiki page directly
[10:12] <LaserJock> RichEd: I saw your little "Don't touch" notice at the bottom of the page
[10:12] <RichEd> LaserJock: mail for the moment ... I may fiddle around in the page today
[10:13] <RichEd> thanks
[10:13] <LaserJock> RichEd: k
[10:14] <pips1> what other channel might be worth pinging with questions about raid experiences, folks?
[10:17] <RichEd> pips1: ubuntu ... edubuntu should be no different ?
[10:17] <pips1> nope, no difference
[10:18] <pips1> I just wonder where lots of people with raid experience might hang out? possibly #ubuntu-server or #LTSP
[10:18] <pips1> dean_za: try  ^^^
[10:18] <RichEd> #ubuntu-server I recokn
[10:18] <RichEd> *reckon
[10:19] <pips1> hmm, they recommend #ubuntu for general support, ubuntu-server is only for server kernel questions, I reckon
[10:20] <pips1> still worth trying
[10:20] <LaserJock> well, if the question is how is swap handled in LTSP then #ltsp seems like the logical choice
[10:21] <ogra> dean_za, would you mind fixing the wiki guide wrt vnc ?
[10:21] <pips1> yes, good point
[10:21] <LaserJock> in fact we might want to put a notice in the topic or a bot factoid about trying #ltsp for LTSP related questions
[10:22] <dean_za> orga: will do as soon as i have reinstalled and stopped the hanging
[10:28] <LaserJock> ogra: did you see that bug reported about essentially blank sources.list after installing Feisty from DesktopCD?
[11:35] <willvdl> my my, nautilus is doing some funny stuff today
[11:36] <ogra> LaserJock, i'm way behind on bugs ... (about 200 unread mails here) whats the number ?
[11:37] <LaserJock> ogra: bug #118334
[11:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118334 in ubiquity "Edubuntu Feisty Desktop CD installation fails to install all repositories" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118334
[11:38] <pips1> willvdl: what's it doing then?
[11:39] <willvdl> it locks up if a specific ODT file is in a specific directory
[11:39] <ogra> LaserJock, thats the right behavior if he installed without net connection
[11:39] <willvdl> :)
[11:39] <LaserJock> ogra: hmm, I thought he said he did have a net connection
[11:39] <ogra> if the installer sees there is no network it wont add any netwourk sources
[11:39] <LaserJock> ogra: but I can ask to make sure
[11:39] <pips1> willvdl: ?! how bizarre
[11:40] <LaserJock> ogra: he did have a net connection when I was helping him
[11:40] <ogra> LaserJock, he doesnt say that in the bug
[11:40] <ubunterror> Hello! Need help, tried everything in the forums. Can't get video card to work, VIA Chrome 9 HC IGP on Edubuntu 7.04
[11:40] <ogra> and i know that all my installs (which are all networkless) do it like that
[11:40] <LaserJock> ogra: ok, I did a LiveCD install in vmware to see and it worked fine
[11:41] <LaserJock> so I think you must be right
[11:41] <LaserJock> but maybe there should be some sort of warning, explanation
[11:41] <ogra> ubunterror, it will work with the vesa driver or with that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome
[11:41] <ogra> its a very badly (by via for linux) supported chip
[11:42] <LaserJock> the poor guy couldn't figure out what was going on. He wanted the edu apps and was trying to install them via g-a-i but it wouldn't let him
[11:42] <ogra> indeed
[11:42] <LaserJock> he could see the apps, but couldn't install them, very frustrating
[11:42] <willvdl> pips1, it's completely unreproducable :)
[11:42] <pips1> hehe
[11:43] <willvdl> only happens on one machine, with one file, in a specific directory
[11:43] <willvdl> must be a weird inode thing
[11:43] <ubunterror> ogra: tried it, error message is frequency over range
[11:43] <pips1> yeah, perhaps
[11:44] <ogra> ubunterror, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:44] <ogra> make sure to select vesa and the right values for your monitor
[11:45] <ogra> that should give you an initial graphical interface
[11:45] <ubunterror> ogra: tried it, picked Vesa, 1024 x 700 something resolution. No go
[11:45] <ogra> "frequency out of range" means that your monitor values are wrong
[11:46] <ubunterror> ogra: okay, what are the correct screen res and refresh rates?
[11:46] <ogra> no idea, its your monitor
[11:46] <ogra> should be in the handbook
[11:46] <ubunterror> ogra: ok thanks, will check
[11:49] <ludoRA> Hello
[11:50] <ubunterror> Im developing a curriculum for the computer subject for K-12, using Edubuntu (we want to junk our old MS curriculum). Any useful links?
[11:51] <pips1> RichEd: ping
[11:51] <RichEd> pips1: pong
[11:51] <pips1> do you have any links for ubunterror?
[11:51] <pips1> ^^^
[11:52] <RichEd> ubunterror: for computer programming subject ? I am not clear on your requirement
[11:53] <pips1> ubunterror: you are looking for curriculum suggestions, rather than content, right?
[11:54] <ubunterror> RichEd, pips1: I'm looking for an outline I can work on, for kids to be able to use Edubuntu, starting age 5 until age 16. This will be the computer subject for our school.
[11:55] <ubunterror> I cannot find sites where there are Edubuntu activities for children.
[11:56] <ubunterror> So I am developing my own, based on our current MS-based activities.
[11:56] <pips1> have a look at http://schoolforge.org.uk/index.php/ICT_Curriculum
[11:56] <RichEd> ubunterror: let me look around a bit for you ... what country are you doing this for as a matter of interest ?
[11:56] <pips1> ubunterror: where are you based? do you need to follow national curriculum guidelines, or do you have freedom to develop own?
[11:57] <pips1> ubunterror: the above link i gave is UK specific...
[12:00] <ubunterror> pips1: Philippines. We have the freedom to develop, and i'm trying hard to make a curriculum and push Edubuntu to schools here, since a lot of them use unlicensed software. The link is a good outline, if there are some which are more detailed, it would be very helpful.
[12:01] <RichEd> ubunterror: this page has just been started, but it may be a useful place to share info: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Lessons
[12:01] <jsgotangco> nice nick btw
[12:04] <ubunterror> RichEd: Thanks for the link, will look into it. I'm actually looking into a stand-alone computer subject which concentrates wholly on open source, using Edubuntu as OS.
[12:05] <ubunterror> jsg: :)
[12:05] <cliebow>    RichEd:how did it go yesterdaay?
[12:06] <RichEd> cliebow: will get back to you is a few minutes ... let me sort out the thread with ubunterror
[12:07] <RichEd> sorry ubunterror I am still not clear ... my head is fuzzy with the flu today ... are you looking to teach "computers as a subject ... i.e. programming etc." or to use computers (edubuntu) to teach general subjects
[12:08] <cliebow> no prob..any timke
[12:09] <ubunterror> RichEd: teaching computers as a subject. Of course, the activities will be useful as they will be related to the other subjects.
[12:09] <jsgotangco> ubunterror: i am from philippines too btw ;-)
[12:10] <pips1> ubunterror: I don't know if the following site will be any use to you, but cetis from the uk has lots of online resources, and some are really usefull... have a look at http://dfl.cetis.ac.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ?
[12:10] <RichEd> here is a Google SoC that may be related ... it is still being developed:
[12:10] <RichEd> http://code.google.com/soc/ubuntu/appinfo.html?csaid=F43382157E7D628C
[12:11] <RichEd> PyStart - Python Programming teaching/testing program
[12:14] <ubunterror> pips1, RichEd: Thanks for your assistance! I will certainly spend some time studying these sites, and get back here for some feedback and updates.
[12:18] <pips1> :-)
[12:20] <RichEd> ubunterror & pips1 : comment from willvdl
 Karien at TSF suggest http://www.curriki.org as one of the best there is
[12:21] <pips1> *click*
[12:24] <pips1> hmm
[12:27] <pips1> well, the advanced search categories look promisingly structured, but I'm not sure how much content is actually there..
[12:28] <pips1> interesting... "result of ... GELC ... started by Sun Microsystems"
[12:29] <pips1> maybe I should move my random mutterings over to #ubuntu-education
[12:30] <ubunterror> he he he, a lot of the resources are in .doc
[12:31] <pips1> :-/
[12:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok :| hope you feel better soon
[02:11] <moquist> Hmm. I have no virtual terminals on this feisty desktop system. I only have X.
[02:12] <ogra> moquist, what graphics card ? ati ?
[02:13] <moquist> nVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT]  and Intel Corporation 82915G Integrated
[02:13] <moquist> dual-head
[02:14] <pips1> hi moquist
[02:15] <moquist> pips1: hey
[02:15] <ogra> moquist, nv or nvidia driver ?
[02:15] <moquist> nv
[02:15] <ogra> hmm
[02:15] <ogra> did you try with the nonfree one ?
[02:16] <moquist> ogra: I didn't mean that somebody in here had to help me fix it. :) I was just mentioning it...
[02:16] <ogra> oh, wait riva-tnt should need the -legacy driver iirc
[02:16] <moquist> ogra: really? this would affect the virtual terminals starting up?
[02:16] <ogra> no, but probably your possibility to switch
[02:17] <ogra> are you sure there are no gettys ?
[02:17] <moquist> Hmm.
[02:18] <moquist> http://n01se.net/paste/O9X
[02:19] <ogra>  ls /etc/event.d/
[02:19] <ogra> ?
[02:19] <moquist> control-alt-delete  logd  rc-default  rc0  rc1  rc2  rc3  rc4  rc5  rc6  rcS  rcS-sulogin  sulogin  tty1  tty2  tty3  tty4  tty5  tty6
[02:20] <ogra> hmm
[02:20] <moquist> Yeah, I haven't really tried to grok upstart yet. :p
[02:20] <ogra> upstart bug probably ....
[02:20] <moquist> This is an upgrade-from-edgy system.
[02:20] <ogra> aand you didnt use apt for it i hope
[02:22] <moquist> ?
[02:22] <moquist> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[02:22] <moquist> is that bad?
[02:22] <ogra> yes
[02:22] <ogra> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[02:22] <moquist> oy
[02:24] <moquist> !! OK, so is it acceptible to use the server upgrade even on a desktop system?
[02:24] <ogra> indeed
[02:24] <moquist> Heh... I think the double-bang fired up ubotu.
[02:24] <ogra> and see the very bottom :)
[02:24] <moquist> ogra: Yeah, I see that.
[02:25] <moquist> I never was a debian user, but doesn't recommending against apt-get for upgrades kinda...rub debian folks the wrong way?
[02:26] <moquist> I don't mind doing things the right way, I'm still just getting used to this change in what I thought that was. :)
[02:26] <ogra> well, there are so many changes apt-cant cover ... like the switch to UUID entries for the whole system instead of /dev/[h,s] dX
[02:27] <ogra> these are things where files need to get rewritten etc ...
[02:27] <moquist> ha ha! sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:27] <moquist> OK.\
[02:28] <moquist> I probably did have to re-start apt-get dist-upgrade, and I just don't remember.
[02:28] <moquist> That's happened to me various times in the past, and things always seemed to come out OK.
[02:28] <moquist> I also switched from UUIDs back to /dev/[h,s] d[abc]  in some cases, since I was copying OSes from box to box... I suppose that's bad, too. :)
[02:29] <ogra> that will break
[02:29] <ogra> just run vol_id for the disks you want to add ;)
[02:29] <ogra> it tellys you the UUID
[02:29] <moquist> ok
[02:30] <erlingre> what is the status of diskless edubuntu/ubuntu?
[02:31] <ogra> erlingre, status in what way ?
[02:31] <ogra> its the state of the art ltsp implementation
[02:31] <pips1> erlingre: by diskless, do you mean thin clients?
[02:32] <erlingre> ogra: but does ubuntu/edubuntu provide a diskless solution? where the client is a regular pc, running all software, but without any storage and mounting / from a server
[02:33] <pips1> ah
[02:34] <ogra> erlingre, not yet out of the box ...
[02:34] <ogra> you can set it up manually though
[02:35] <ogra> for an out of the box setup we're missing an out of the box network auth mechanism ... if you have that running, its as easy as:sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[02:35] <erlingre> I have a mostly working setup where I just installed ubuntu on a pc, rsynced to a Debian server, exports one rootfs for each client and a shared ro. Only one problem. While mounting the shared usr the clients stalls for more than one minute and finally prints a "failed" message even if /usr really is mounted. I have checked everything I can think of several times, but have not yet managed to fix it
[02:36] <ogra> what do you mean by you rsynced an ubuntu system to a debian server ?
[02:37] <erlingre> I just used rsync to copy the entire Ubuntu system to a debian fileserver to a directory like /ubuntu_feisty/ and later exported that directory to diskless clients by NFS
[02:38] <ogra> right, but you will need REW parts in the system
[02:38] <ogra> *RW
[02:38] <erlingre> yes
[02:38] <ogra> thats what the ltsp setup usually cares for
[02:38] <ogra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[02:38] <erlingre> I create a new rootfs for each diskless client based on the files in /ubuntu_feisty/
[02:40] <erlingre> Do you think it is a better approach to follow the ltsp tutorials and just use /opt/ltsp/i386?
[02:40] <ogra> well, ltsp has some easy mechanisms to mount files and dirs into a tmpfs if it needs them RW
[02:41] <ogra> it also autodetects sound and X setup ...
[02:42] <erlingre> maybe I try that approach if I give up the manual setup I have now
[02:42] <erlingre> exept the nfs mounting problems it works okay so far
[02:43] <ogra> well, its a lot of maintenance work to care for so many chroots
[02:43] <ogra> with the ltsp setup you can just have one :)
[02:44] <erlingre> do you have any suggestions for long delays during nfs mounts? I check with rpcifo -p. The client runs portmapper, nlockmgr, and status. The server runs nfs and mountd in addition.
[02:44] <ogra> how about portmap :)
[02:44] <ogra> ah, you listed it, sorry i'm blind today
[02:45] <ogra> err, do you run it on the server as well ?
[02:45] <erlingre> yes..
[02:45] <ogra> no weird hosts.allow/.deny entries ?
[02:45] <erlingre> I have also tried a diskless Debian etch setup from the same server and do not experience such problems so it must be something with the Ubuntu client setup
[02:46] <ogra> debian etchs ltsp implementation is very old
[02:46] <ogra> its what we shipped in dapper
[02:46] <ogra> or somewhere between dapper and edgy
[02:47] <erlingre> I don't use any ltsp stuff in Debian etch. Just a plain Debian install on a pc and copy that install to the server and export it to clients later
[02:47] <ogra> ah
[03:00] <moquist> ogra: I'm pretty sure that back in the day I specified the 'nv' driver manually (this is a customized dual-head setup), so I'll try another driver and see where I get.
[03:00] <ogra> well
[03:00] <ogra> you dont have gettys
[03:00] <ogra> its no X bug
[03:01] <ogra> its upstart that isnt set up correctly
[03:01] <ace_suares> !paste
[03:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:02] <moquist> ogra: Heh; right. I got distracted for a while and came back to the problem remembering only 75% of our previous conversation.
[03:04] <moquist> eh, shouldn't I be able to run the getty command in /etc/event.d/tty1 and get a TTY on tty1?
[03:04] <moquist> It didn't work...
[03:06] <ogra> heh, did you look inside ?
[03:06] <ogra> its no script :)
[03:06] <moquist> hunh? I just executed '/sbin/getty 38400 tty1exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1' as root, but got no login prompt on TTY1 when I switched.
[03:07] <moquist> ogra: thx for the upgrading link, BTW. I'm going to send that to several colleagues who probably do apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[03:07] <ogra> leave that to upstart ;)
[03:07] <ogra> right
[03:08] <ogra> nobody should use apt for upgrades since edgy anymore ... we made very prominent announcements about that
[03:11] <moquist> ogra: Right, upstart should start getty for me. But given that it isn't, shouldn't root be able to start it?
[03:12] <moquist> i.e., given that I just ran getty as root, using the command found in /etc/event.d/tty1, and it didn't start a tty, perhaps upstart is doing the right thing but getty isn't.
[03:13] <highvoltage> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/05/25/1536219
[03:14] <highvoltage> moquist: did you try pre-seeding with ubiquity? did it work?
[03:14] <ogra> moquist, very unlikely
[03:14] <ogra> moquist, dpkg -l upstart ?
[03:14] <moquist> 0.3.8-1
[03:14] <moquist> ogra: Hmm. OK.
[03:14] <ogra> dpkg -l|grep sysv
[03:15] <moquist> highvoltage: not yet
[03:15] <ogra> shoudl return: upstart-compat-sysv sysvutils and sysv-rc
[03:15] <moquist> http://n01se.net/paste/g5?pretty=no
[03:15] <moquist> ogra: yep
[03:16] <moquist> highvoltage: I've got to get the server install CD booting properly on the network first and I'll try preseeding there (so I know what I'm doing), and then I'll try it again with ubiquity
[03:16] <moquist> highvoltage: strangely enough, casper turned out to be the wrong thing to use for the non-Live install CDs ;)
[03:17] <moquist> i.e., the boot=casper stuff seems not to be working.
[03:17] <moquist> (for server, alternate, edubuntu-server)
[03:18] <ogra> how should it ?
[03:18] <ogra> casper is the liveCD part for initramfs
[03:19] <highvoltage> moquist: yes, indeed :)
[03:19] <moquist> ogra: Yeah, that's why I was winking. *Of course* it shouldn't work, but that didn't occur to me until after I tried it.
[03:22] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:24] <moquist> hiya, sbalneav
[03:25] <sbalneav> Hey moquist
[04:18] <base> hello
[04:20] <pips1> hi
[05:23] <willvdl> catch y'all later at the meeting
[06:43] <moquist> anybody know what sets the fs.file-max kernel param? I've just checked several different Ubuntu boxes here and they all have different values, and I didn't set them.
[07:49] <LaserJock> ogra: what's cjwatson talking about?
[07:49] <ogra> building the livefs
[07:49] <ogra> in former releases it wasnt possible for me to build any livefses
[07:50] <ogra> or for riddell
[07:50] <ogra> thats a new feature since january
[07:51] <LaserJock> so now you guys can build the livefs?
[07:54] <ogra> right
[07:54] <ogra> which makes everything easier
[07:55] <ogra> hah, and my virtualbox install succeeded too
[07:55] <ogra> so the i386 iso seems good to go ...
[07:55] <ogra> looks pretty good for a first milestone iso
[07:56] <ogra> LaserJock. did Keybuk talk to you about SoC ?
[08:04] <LaserJock> ogra: yes
[08:06] <ogra> good
[08:06] <LaserJock> so I'm mentoring a grub frontend
[08:06] <ogra> heh
[08:07] <LaserJock> or rather grub config guid
[08:07] <LaserJock> *gui
[08:07] <ogra> i once wrote a very simple one for warty ...
[08:07] <ogra> actually my first python proggy
[08:08] <ogra> i won a network monitoring SoC today as well btw :)
[08:09] <ogra> http://www.grawert.net/software/startup-settings/index.html :)
[08:34] <LaserJock> ogra: still around?
[08:35] <LaserJock> well, I guess this might be more for RichEd
[08:35] <LaserJock> but I just had a conversation with one of the IT heads of my uni
[08:36] <LaserJock> he's a big fan of Ubuntu
[08:36] <ogra> nice :)
[08:36] <LaserJock> I think he might be interested in some "Edubuntu in Universities" type stuff
[08:36] <LaserJock> he's particularly interested in network auth and AD
[08:37] <LaserJock> he's got a group of math students that prefer to use Linux
[08:37] <LaserJock> but he'd like to be able to integrate them better into the uni network
[08:47] <LaserJock> ogra: is cjwatson going to fix the "Desktop CD doesn't install edu apps" problem or is that something we have to handle? I can't remember what you said last time we talked about it
[08:48] <ogra> i hav to discuss that with him
[08:52] <LaserJock> ogra: well, I still haven't been able to track down how the applications.menu and app-install directory get placed on the Add-on CD
[08:52] <LaserJock> ogra: I talked to mvo and pitti, who else might know? cjwatson?
[08:53] <ogra> yes
[08:57] <LaserJock> it'd be nice to be able to get all the installer/disc issues done by tribe 3
[09:04] <ogra> well, i'm not even sue we'll have a tribe1
[09:04] <ogra> *sure
[09:04] <ogra> i'm heavily fighting here
[09:54] <ogra> ******* Reminder Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 6 min ********
[09:57] <ogra> ******* Reminder Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 3 min ********
[09:57] <willvdl> howdi
[09:57] <ogra> hey hey
[09:58] <willvdl> I take it Rich is down with the flu
[09:58] <ogra> willvdl. i wll try to keep my part as short as possible today, i'm still not done with building the liveCD and have a nightshift ahead
[09:58] <willvdl> same here
[09:58] <willvdl> nightshift?
[09:59] <ogra> seems there was an issue with the buildds that made the livefs builder not pick up my changes, so we still have oversized untested isos for tomorrows milestone release
[09:59] <ogra> i'm tryig to get that fixed tonight
[10:00] <willvdl> eek
[10:00] <ogra> ******* Edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting starting now ********
[10:00] <willvdl> don't worry, I just want to talk website :)
[11:45] <LaserJock> ogra: is  20070606.1 right for the server cds?
[11:45] <ogra> yes
[11:49] <LaserJock> alright, I really need to get some real work done
[11:49] <LaserJock> see you all later
[11:50] <ogra> bye bye
[11:52] <willvdl> nixternal still here?
[11:58] <cliebow>   #ubuntu-meetiing
[11:59] <willvdl> meeting is over :)
[12:00] <cliebow> yeaha..i got busy..then got home and saw the msg