| DaSkreech | Whoot! | 12:32 |
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| DaSkreech | We are getting a new emacs in Gutsy? :) | 12:32 |
| Arby | Riddell: icon bug filed as bug 118863 | 12:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118863 in kdebase "[Gutsy] extra icons on desktop in kubuntu daily 20070605" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118863 | 12:34 |
| Arby | nixternal: can you confirm when you get back ^^ | 12:34 |
| DaSkreech | !info emacs gutsy | 12:36 |
| ubotu | emacs: The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 21.4a+1-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 64 kB | 12:36 |
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| Arby | Does anyone else observe broken modules in system settings on gutsy? | 12:45 |
| Riddell | example? | 12:50 |
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| Arby | Riddell: User management, Disk& Filesystem | 12:54 |
| Arby | Riddell: filed a list as bug 118864 | 12:54 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118864 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy] Broken modules in kde system settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118864 | 12:54 |
| Arby | Riddell: also Knetwork manager does not appear in Systray at login, should it? | 12:57 |
| Riddell | Arby: it should | 12:58 |
| Arby | right, I'll file another bug then | 12:58 |
| Riddell | system settings module sounds like guidance breakage | 12:58 |
| Arby | that would be consistent, I had the same problem as Lure earlier | 12:58 |
| Arby | guidance update fails | 12:59 |
| nixternal | Arby: I confirmed that bug | 12:59 |
| Arby | nixternal: thanks | 12:59 |
| nixternal | no problem | 12:59 |
| nixternal | doing iso testing website now | 12:59 |
| DaSkreech | Bye all! | 01:00 |
| Arby | Riddell: is the system settings worth filing or will sorting guidance make it go away? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | Arby: both? | 01:01 |
| Arby | right I'll file it then | 01:01 |
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| Arby | Riddell: confirmed, fixing guidance solves the system settings problem | 01:09 |
| nixternal | Arby: are you new around here or am I just now seeing your nick for the first time? | 01:13 |
| Riddell | Arby: well of course, but how did you fix? | 01:13 |
| Riddell | nixternal: he was our top iso tester for feisty :) | 01:13 |
| Arby | Riddell: removed guidance and reinstalled | 01:13 |
| Arby | having tried dpkg --configure -a | 01:13 |
| nixternal | Riddell: the name isn't ringing a bell. I was going to say, damn first time I have seen him and he is super tester | 01:13 |
| Riddell | Arby: mm, right | 01:14 |
| Arby | which didn't work | 01:14 |
| Arby | :D | 01:14 |
| nixternal | Northwind Database rocks! | 01:14 |
| === nixternal waits for the flames of those familiar with that | ||
| Riddell | Arby: power manager problem will be fixed in 0.8.0-1ubuntu6 | 01:16 |
| Arby | Riddell: cool, I've left a comment on the bug for how I got around it just in case | 01:17 |
| Arby | and now I'm too tired to do anything else useful. | 01:18 |
| === Arby --> bed | ||
| nixternal | hey, and his name is Richard...so you know he is good :) | 01:20 |
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| jjesse | wow these girls playing softball are crazy good | 02:50 |
| RadiantFire | er | 02:52 |
| === nixternal is mad at the NW catcher | ||
| RadiantFire | is there a reason? | 03:09 |
| jjesse | did she cost NW the game? | 03:09 |
| jjesse | or he? | 03:09 |
| nixternal | yes she did | 03:12 |
| nixternal | she missed the tag and lost the game for NW | 03:12 |
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| jjesse | nixternal: it was nice too see new people interesting in helping out in kubuntu | 03:16 |
| nixternal | very much so. I am wondering if there are going to be any Xandros people coming this way | 03:17 |
| nixternal | I did read on Xandros forums that some of their Devs and Community members are going over to PCLinuxOS | 03:17 |
| claydoh | When Lycoris was absorbed by mandriva, quite a lot of users migrated to PCLOS | 03:23 |
| claydoh | now with xandros folks maybe migrating, it will only add to that distros surge | 03:24 |
| claydoh | but I didn't convince many (if any) of my former Lycoris colleagues to consider Kubuntu | 03:27 |
| nixternal | a lot of people are using PCLOS because it is a Microsoft Windows 95 clone out of the box | 03:28 |
| claydoh | 95? | 03:29 |
| nixternal | it gives them all of the restricted stuff from the get go, which a lot of people want | 03:29 |
| Jucato | was, but not so much lately I think. | 03:29 |
| nixternal | I meant to say XP | 03:29 |
| nixternal | heh | 03:29 |
| Jucato | but yeah, it still has most of the restricted stuff | 03:29 |
| nixternal | it looks just like XP to me | 03:29 |
| Jucato | they *finally* got rid of that logo | 03:29 |
| claydoh | heh I don't see how it is Xp-ish myself, but then again I did not find Lycoris to be xp-like either, other sam some colors, etc | 03:30 |
| nixternal | the theme is, not the kicker, is very XP'ish | 03:30 |
| Jucato | but then again, KDE is always being spoken of as being "like Windows"... | 03:30 |
| === claydoh has to suffer a stock xp setup at work, not allowed to mess with anything :( | ||
| nixternal | heh, which I don't really see unless you use imbrandon royale kbfx stuff :) | 03:31 |
| nixternal | claydoh: I know the feeling...doing the same here at the uni | 03:31 |
| nixternal | and what I do edit, as soon as I reboot I lose it | 03:31 |
| jjesse | evil network administrators :) :) | 03:31 |
| claydoh | I do encourage OOo at work, as they just spent $$ on buying Office 2003, and it often has some bugs in very simple documents | 03:32 |
| nixternal | hehe | 03:32 |
| claydoh | so I got to go back to using OOo | 03:32 |
| claydoh | I just convert it all to doc, xls, etc | 03:33 |
| Jucato | poor you :) | 03:33 |
| Jucato | well, better OO.o than MS, right? :) | 03:33 |
| claydoh | I tried to convince the big boss OO was the way, not to spend $$ for the full Office suite for very basic docs and a couple of spreadsheets | 03:34 |
| claydoh | but he had so many major issues upgrading/setting up 16 restaurants with new hardware/software he wanted "no more software hassles | 03:35 |
| claydoh | heh | 03:35 |
| claydoh | even though our POS registers reports open just splendidly in Calc | 03:36 |
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| jjesse | nixternal: you watching this college world series softball game? | 04:48 |
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| nixternal | just got home from school | 05:56 |
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| nixternal | anyone able to get me a 1024x768 screenshot of the new kdm login? for some reason vmware shows the default box and some blue wallpaper that isn't kubuntu | 06:29 |
| nixternal | unless of course you can tell me how to fix that | 06:29 |
| nixternal | wo0t..got it | 06:43 |
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| Hobbsee | uh...who broke guidance? | 07:44 |
| === Jucato points to the probably sleeping nixternal... | ||
| === nixternal is working on tribe 1 notes | ||
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| Hobbsee | /usr/bin/guidance-power-manager needs to point to /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/guidance-power-manager.py on the second line. | 07:45 |
| Jucato | aaah. sssh.. do not disturb :) | 07:45 |
| Hobbsee | i've no idea why it doesnt | 07:46 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: it has been fixed I believe earlier, waiting for syncs and builds I am sure | 07:53 |
| Hobbsee | right | 07:53 |
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| nixternal | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Kubuntu | 08:22 |
| nixternal | if you all want to review that...feedback welcomed | 08:22 |
| === Hobbsee is still attempting to fix the major bugs. | ||
| nixternal | well, my job is done until tribe 2 | 08:25 |
| === nixternal goes on vacation | ||
| Hobbsee | hej | 08:26 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 08:26 |
| Hobbsee | there's still more documentation | 08:26 |
| nixternal | bah, that has been done since Feisty | 08:26 |
| nixternal | documentation is less than a weeks worth a work this release (I hope) | 08:26 |
| === Jucato thought nixternal would be taking a break to focus on KDE stuff... thank goodness he changed his mind :P | ||
| nixternal | Jucato: I am concentrating on KDE stuff | 08:26 |
| Jucato | btw, the kmilo change isn't mentioned? | 08:26 |
| nixternal | KHelpCenter is my latest project that I am participating with..go figure right | 08:27 |
| nixternal | orly | 08:27 |
| === nixternal checks out kmilo | ||
| nixternal | hrmm, how can I do kmilo in vmware? | 08:27 |
| nixternal | is there a cheater way of initiating it | 08:27 |
| Jucato | cheater cheater :) | 08:28 |
| === Jucato doesn't know :P | ||
| nixternal | hrmm | 08:28 |
| nixternal | is kmilo in tribe 1? | 08:28 |
| nixternal | remember we are in a freeze | 08:28 |
| Jucato | I thought so. Hobbsee commented yesterday on how nice it looked... | 08:28 |
| nixternal | alrighty then | 08:28 |
| nixternal | this should be interesting | 08:28 |
| Jucato | not really sure if it's in tribe 1, though... | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | yes it is | 08:29 |
| Hobbsee | and its' in tribe 1 | 08:29 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: is there a way to cheat it, so I can show it lowering/raising the volume at least? | 08:29 |
| Jucato | kinda wished there was a sort of laptop profile for vmware eh? :/ | 08:30 |
| nixternal | that would be nice | 08:30 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 08:30 |
| Jucato | hm... were the konvi changes included in tribe 1? should we actually mention those? :/ | 08:31 |
| Hobbsee | should ahve been | 08:31 |
| === Jucato is all the more interested in upgrading to feisty on at least on of his pretty machines... | ||
| === nixternal checks konvi | ||
| nixternal | I totally forgot | 08:33 |
| nixternal | what were the changes supposed to be? | 08:33 |
| nixternal | lookwise, it is the same as feisty from what I can see | 08:33 |
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| gutsy | nasty images -> | 08:34 |
| gutsy | ahh, here they come... | 08:34 |
| Jucato | nixternal: the tabs I believe have been brought back to the bottom? and the nicklist theme? | 08:34 |
| nixternal | nope | 08:34 |
| nixternal | still tree view | 08:34 |
| Jucato | hm.. strange... I thought imbrandon reverted... | 08:34 |
| nixternal | the nicklist theme still has the old boxes | 08:34 |
| Jucato | old boxes with letters in side them? | 08:35 |
| nixternal | no letters | 08:35 |
| Jucato | ah then that has changed | 08:35 |
| nixternal | gray boxes with a gradient, and then what looks like a + in some of them | 08:35 |
| Jucato | ah ok... | 08:35 |
| nixternal | the ones with the + are grayed out as well | 08:35 |
| Jucato | ok still the same.. no changes then | 08:36 |
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| nixternal | ya, it is the same from when I used it in Edgy | 08:36 |
| Jucato | really strange... | 08:36 |
| Jucato | I recall imbrandon mentioning reverting it.. oh well nvm then :) | 08:36 |
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| gutsy | another thing I notice...konvi is sloooooow | 08:37 |
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| nixternal | any new kmilo screenshots I can steal? | 08:38 |
| Jucato | none here... maybe ryanakca or mhb? | 08:39 |
| Lure | nixternal: have added new digikam to Tribe1 page, but needs some love from you (with wiki formating and language) ;-) | 08:51 |
| nixternal | thanks Lure, I will work on that | 08:52 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 09:45 |
| Hobbsee | hiya Tonio_ | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | hey ;) | 09:46 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: your kaffeine upload had a bug in it - file overwrite problem. | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: my kaffeine upload was rejected | 09:46 |
| Hobbsee | yes. | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I don't understand the issue in fact | 09:46 |
| Hobbsee | [16:05] <Hobbsee> dpkg: error processing kaffeine-xine_0.8.4-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--install): | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | [16:05] <Hobbsee> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/kaffeine/xine_part/pluginsinfo', which is also in package kaffeine | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ^ | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | kaffeine_0.8.4-0ubuntu1_i386_translations.tar.gz (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7964919/kaffeine_0.8.4-0ubuntu1_i386_translations.tar.gz) was REJECTED | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | this is my issue | 09:47 |
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| Hobbsee | Tonio_: was the translations a separate tarball? | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: file conflict shouldn't be rejected by the buildd | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: no I think this is the extraction for rosetta process | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | something has gone wrong with it | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: did that reach the repos ? | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i uploaded 0ubuntu2, which was accepted | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | pitti rejected it, on my request. | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | the 0ubuntu1 | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | ho...... | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: talking about that I can't understand where is the file conflict....; | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | because of the file overwrite | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: did you look at the debs ? | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I don't have that pluginsinfo file in the deb here | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | it was foo/bar/ in kaffeine, and foo/bar/bling/xine_part.* in kaffeine-xine | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | i do, for kaffeine now | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: argh !!!!!!!!! | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | with the new version | 09:50 |
| Hobbsee | oh no, what have i done? | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I uploaded the WIP version of the package, with a testing patch for the plugin identification | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | to pass WMP detection..... | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | shame on me | 09:50 |
| === Hobbsee headdesks. | ||
| Hobbsee | so..... | 09:51 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: how broken is it? | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: very ;) | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'll upload the good one this time | 09:52 |
| Tonio_ | the one I use locally with success | 09:52 |
| === Hobbsee beats Tonio_ with a rubber mallet | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: looks like already fixed in the archives.....; | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: what's the difference between your good one, and the one you uploaded? | 09:53 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i've fixed the file overwrite problem - how's it broken apart from that? | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: a new patch | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | touched install files etc..... | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | well yours might work too | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | just that the pluginsinfo thing isn't finished at all | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | but that might not crash....... | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: so thaks for fixing......... | 09:55 |
| Hobbsee | i only fixed the install file | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: and sorry for the error....... shame on me | 09:55 |
| Hobbsee | i didnt fix any buggered patches | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: that's okay | 09:55 |
| === Hobbsee has gone and told pitti that kubuntu was OK - now we have repeated lots of breakage. | ||
| Tonio_ | the pluginsinfo thing doesn't work yet, but doesn't break anything | 09:55 |
| Hobbsee | good | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | repeated lots of breakage ? | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | so it's not "delay tribe1" material? | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | kde-guidance, kaffeine | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | no issue with kaffeine on that point | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | at least for kaffeine | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | good. | 09:56 |
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| Hobbsee | Tonio_: do we need kaffeine-gstreamer in main? | 10:09 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: no | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: but is it works now we should have it in universe | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 10:18 |
| Hobbsee | there's no alternate | kaffeine-gstreamer dep on kaffeine, btw | 10:18 |
| Tonio_ | true | 10:20 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: btw I have a plan for kaffeine and gutsy, so I'll have to rework on that pluginsinfo thing :) | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: ping ? | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: I noticed kdesudo doesn't work with the kcontrol modules, switch to admin | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: we have to make it to work before releasing anything | 10:55 |
| === mhb takes a look | ||
| mhb | Tonio_: you're right | 10:56 |
| mhb | Tonio_: have you tried to triage this bug already? | 10:57 |
| mhb | Tonio_: do you know why it does not work? | 10:57 |
| mhb | Tonio_: kdesu: Unknown option '--nonewdcop'. | 10:59 |
| mhb | Tonio_: we're back at implementing options for kdesudo :o) | 10:59 |
| mhb | Tonio_: (the "kdesu:" line is what kcmshell says when you click "Administrator mode") | 10:59 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: I just discovered it :) | 11:09 |
| mhb | Tonio_: you should have read what I wrote instead :o) | 11:09 |
| mhb | Tonio_: this parameter seems to be one of the harder ones | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: no time to work on that today, we're ending the french parliament migration for friday | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: I'll be finally back in the effort starting next week | 11:10 |
| mhb | Tonio_: okay | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | which parameter is missing concerning the kcmshell ? | 11:10 |
| mhb | Tonio_: it complains about --nonewdcop | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: ouch...... | 11:11 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: that will not be the easier to add :) | 11:12 |
| mhb | Tonio_: like I said, a hard one :o) | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | mhb: but well do it right ? ;) | 11:12 |
| mhb | Tonio_: I'm sure we will | 11:13 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: you pinged? | 11:45 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: that was about the kaffeine issue, but now I know why it had been rejected, Sarah asked for that | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: unfortunatelly, I wanted to do quick and I uploaded a WIP version of the package, with experimental patches I'm working on...... | 11:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: you can kick me if you want :) | 11:53 |
| Riddell | I'd rather kick xine-line for installing gtk et al | 11:54 |
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| Riddell | xineplug_decode_gdk_pixbuf.so | 11:56 |
| Riddell | libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 | 11:56 |
| Riddell | that's the culprit | 11:56 |
| Riddell | siretart: I'd really like to separate that out somewhere, so we don't get a zillion dependencies on the kubuntu cd we don't need | 11:57 |
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| siretart | Riddell: I could perhaps move that to libxine1-gnome, need to check what it is actually good for | 12:13 |
| Riddell | ooh, yes please | 12:16 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: ping | 12:16 |
| mhb | Tonio_: okay, analysis complete | 12:22 |
| mhb | Tonio_: we need 4 parameters for kcmshell to work | 12:22 |
| mhb | Tonio_: -nonewdcop, -n, -d, -i | 12:22 |
| mhb | Tonio_: (do not keep password, hide the command, custom icon) | 12:23 |
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| Lure | Riddell: is current daily-live tribe1 candidate? | 12:57 |
| Riddell | Lure: no | 12:58 |
| Riddell | waiting on guidance to be built then we'll make new CDs | 12:58 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok | 12:58 |
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| Riddell | erk | 01:42 |
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| RadiantFire | mhb: pong | 02:01 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: yeah, almost lost a bunch of patches there ;) | 02:01 |
| paran | _StefanS_: death by coffee is not fun. I killed my keyboard last friday ;) | 02:06 |
| _StefanS_ | paran: ick, not very good | 02:07 |
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| _StefanS_ | paran: I was just mounting a silent fan in a cabinet beside my laptop, and then the plastic-mount broke so my hand slapped at the coffee can | 02:08 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: hey... long time no talk! :o) | 02:08 |
| RadiantFire | yeah, has been | 02:09 |
| RadiantFire | all 2 days | 02:09 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: hope you're well, but that's not why I'm pinging | 02:09 |
| RadiantFire | i figured as much | 02:09 |
| RadiantFire | started work | 02:09 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: on what? | 02:09 |
| _StefanS_ | wow there's quite alot of new packages to download in gutsy.. 148mb :) | 02:09 |
| RadiantFire | i'm doing research with one of my professors on Cerebellar Model Articulation Controllers | 02:10 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: cool | 02:11 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: so you have little time now, I guess | 02:11 |
| RadiantFire | yeah | 02:12 |
| RadiantFire | I've got to go off at like 1/2 an hour, but I'll be here for bit | 02:13 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: no problem then, just wanted to know how much free time you have | 02:13 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: I'll be doing some parameter porting from kdesudo to kdesu | 02:13 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: so that's why I poked you | 02:13 |
| RadiantFire | ah | 02:14 |
| RadiantFire | ok | 02:14 |
| RadiantFire | so he's a silly question. Where is the kdesudo code? | 02:14 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: on bzr | 02:14 |
| RadiantFire | mmm... another vcs | 02:15 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: and launchpad | 02:15 |
| RadiantFire | so, where exactly on bzr? | 02:15 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-kdesudo/kdesudo/trunk | 02:15 |
| RadiantFire | ah, and or, what is your goal with said parameter porting? | 02:15 |
| RadiantFire | sigh, I need to read the tabs in launchpad | 02:16 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: I wanted to ask why the heck people are afraid of hiding the command name, when kdesu has the option to hide it | 02:16 |
| RadiantFire | it does? | 02:16 |
| RadiantFire | i was not aware of that | 02:16 |
| RadiantFire | I wuold feel like that is a social engineering security whole | 02:16 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: me neither | 02:17 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: { "d", I18N_NOOP("Do not show the command to be run in the dialog"), 0} | 02:17 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: from kdesu.cpp | 02:17 |
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| mhb | RadiantFire: that's why I poked you, I couldn't understand why people reacted negatively on your patch when you can hide the command with ease | 02:18 |
| RadiantFire | hmmm | 02:18 |
| RadiantFire | possibly because if you were just told to "Enter your password" it would raise some red flags | 02:18 |
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| RadiantFire | but if it did say something like "Enter your password to install neato pr0n screensavers." and then you couldn't see the command that would be bad. | 02:19 |
| RadiantFire | or it could have just been people commenting without looking at the code | 02:20 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: I suspect the latter | 02:20 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: :o) | 02:20 |
| Riddell | ** new alternate CDs up for testing | 02:26 |
| Riddell | Lure: ^^ | 02:26 |
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| RadiantFire | mhb: so is there anyting you want me to do, as soon as I figure out how to get the code | 02:27 |
| mhb | RadiantFire: no, not really :o) get familiar with bzr and stuff, so we can hack on kdesu and kdesudo unifying once you have time .o) | 02:31 |
| paran | _StefanS_: Ah. I was only in a hurry when I put my cup down :) | 02:31 |
| RadiantFire | mhb: ok, bbl then | 02:31 |
| RadiantFire | hooray! checkout worked | 02:32 |
| RadiantFire | i guess the more vcs you have to deal with, the easier they are to figure out | 02:32 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: what are your thoughts on fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/13497? | 02:38 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 13497 in kdebase "Locked password on live CD interferes with screen lock" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:38 |
| Riddell | patches welcome :) | 02:40 |
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| Riddell | it's never reached high enough on my todo list for me to do anything about it, it probably just needs a casper script to echo the right config option into the right place | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i'm wondering who'd be able to write the patch. | 02:41 |
| Riddell | anyone with elite bash skills | 02:41 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm..... | 02:42 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: btw, i guess i shouldnt say that kubuntu cds are ready, if there are fixes that keep getting dropped in, and/or broken. | 02:42 |
| Riddell | find the relevant config option for kicker and copy and adapt the gnome script | 02:42 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: candidate alternate CDs are ready for testing | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | i know, i saw | 02:43 |
| Riddell | so long as you say they're candidates, we want everyone to know | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | i meant the "is kubuntu ready for a candidate" | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ie, "are there any other bugs that we need to fix for tribe 1?" | 02:44 |
| Riddell | I'm pretty confident there aren't | 02:45 |
| Riddell | we've fixed the ones Arby and nixternal reported last night so I expect these images will be good | 02:45 |
| Riddell | which is quite a record for a first testing CD infact | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | ok, i think i found a quick fix, if its possible to run: export | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | RUNNING_UNDER_GDM="True" from casper before the session starts, locking will be | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | disabled... (i'll add a real empty password check later too if still required) | 02:46 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if there's a RUNNING_UNDER_KDM="True" possibility | ||
| Hobbsee | but i doubt it's that simple | 02:46 |
| Riddell | why does it need that check? it should always just disable locking (casper only works from the live CD and we always want to disable locking there) | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | i've no idea. i know very very little abotu casper | 02:48 |
| Hobbsee | but that's what i would expect | 02:48 |
| Riddell | I would guess that test is only so it knows it's GNOME and not another desktop | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | true | 02:49 |
| Riddell | in which case you can check for $KDE_FULL_SESSION=true | 02:49 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: two questions with that. a) is it really that simple? b) what happens if you were to export both those lines in /etc/environment - do you know if there would be any ill effects? | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | and "try it" is not an acceptable answer | 03:05 |
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| lucky_lucas | hi was wondering if's it's possible to switch between two version of flash ? free/non-free, in firefox or konqueror ? | 03:38 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: I think it is not that simple: I think there is no config file to disable lock function in kde, so coding is required | 03:43 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: I think I have briefly checked that code when I have worked on disabling suspend/hibernate on live CD through casper for feisty | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | i found it | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | and yes there is | 03:44 |
| Lure | yes? | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | it's set in kdesktoprc | 03:44 |
| Lure | I did not look good enough then... ;-) | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | it's taken a couple of us a while to find it, though | 03:44 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: what option? | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | under [ScreenSaver] | 03:45 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: I suspect it works only after restart, right? | 03:47 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: so simply adding it to casper would be the way to go | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | not sure | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | if you put the option into /root/.kde/share/config/kdesktoprc, whihc is installed when 22screensaver script is called, before logging into a DM, then i suspect ti would | 03:48 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: casper is setup before any desktop - I have done patch for powermanagerrc and same way we could add ScreenSaver stuff | 03:51 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: just download casper source and you will see how it is done for powermanager | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: right....looking | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: ahh, right, so you've detected it that way | 03:55 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: well you also need to replace the gconf line with something suitable for kicker's config file | 03:55 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: export which lines? | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: which assumes that k-d-s is actually installed, though | 03:56 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: it is in kubuntu live cd - this is why I check for existance of it | 03:58 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: if [ -d /root/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config ] ; then | 03:59 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: true that. i'm thinking that we can just echo "Lock=false" >> /root/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/kdesktoprc | 03:59 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: You probably need to add [ScreenSaver] before (as section) | 04:00 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: unless we already ship something in k-d-s that would overlap | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | can i just echo the [ScreenSaver] first, then the other, or both lines at once, or what? | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | id' wondered about the section | 04:00 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: either way | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | hwo could i echo both at once? echo "[ScreenSaver] /n Lock=false"? | 04:01 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: we ship kdesktoprc, but no ScreenSaver section | 04:01 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: you could also code it to be more robust, but I think simple solution (append) is ok for now | 04:01 |
| Hobbsee | yes, and i hardly think we want to remove it on both live and install? | 04:02 |
| Hobbsee | what's the more robust option? my bash is crap | 04:02 |
| Riddell | nixternal: kdm on alternate CD is indeed not using the kubuntu theme | 04:03 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: more robust> you would need to check if [ScreenSaver] section is already in file and if Enabled=xxx is already there and in this case replace the value (with sed or similar) | 04:19 |
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| Hobbsee | Lure: point. at this point, we know it's not. | 04:19 |
| Hobbsee | as i'ts not specified in k-d-s | 04:19 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: exactly, so I think we should be fine for now | 04:20 |
| Hobbsee | i did wonder about just setting it all in k-d-s though | 04:20 |
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| Lure | Hobbsee: not good, as it would disable it for all users - even the ones added later on real system | 04:22 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: casper ensures that it is only done for live cd user | 04:22 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: the chnage is done on FS that is not copied over to real system by ubiquity | 04:22 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: that was my thought | 04:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ping | 04:34 |
| Riddell | hi | 04:34 |
| apachelogger | hey boss | 04:34 |
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| Riddell | (if you're quick, I'm about to reboot for CD testing) | 04:34 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: didn't you upload filelight? | 04:34 |
| Riddell | Harald Sitter ( 49) [gutsy-changes] Accepted filelight 1.0-0ubuntu1 | 04:35 |
| apachelogger | can't find it on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue :( | 04:35 |
| apachelogger | oh | 04:35 |
| Riddell | that's a good thing, it means it's been accepted :) | 04:35 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/filelight/1.0-0ubuntu1 | 04:35 |
| apachelogger | ahhh, k ^_^ | 04:35 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: have fun with cd testing then :) | 04:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it'll only appear in +queue new queue if either the source or one of the binary packages hasn't been in the archive before | 04:38 |
| Riddell | such as khalkhi. that needs to be reviewed by an archive admin | 04:38 |
| Riddell | ** desktop CDs neeing tested ** | 04:38 |
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| apachelogger | *closes bug* | 04:40 |
| Lure | Riddell: rebooting to try desktop cd | 04:45 |
| nixternal | Riddell: the kdm theme on alternate, has it been reported? | 04:59 |
| nixternal | I manually fixed mine with the kde-kdm-themes package | 04:59 |
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| === Hobbsee has fixed the screensaver thing :D | ||
| === nosrednaekim cheers Hobbsee | ||
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| apachelogger | nixternal: ? | 05:05 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 05:05 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: they plan to publish the release notes at noon tomorrow or so, german time. | 05:05 |
| nixternal | cool...I just need to fix up the digikam part and that's pretty much it | 05:07 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:09 |
| Hobbsee | and the kaffeine part, it looks like | 05:09 |
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| nixternal | I thought kaffeine was complete | 05:14 |
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| nixternal | ahh | 05:15 |
| nixternal | well that is the kaffeine from the alternate cd..I am taking it has been updated sense | 05:15 |
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| Lure-live | Riddell: btw, no knetworkmanager in Tribe1 | 05:40 |
| Lure-live | Lure-live: it does not get started by default | 05:40 |
| Riddell | Lure-live: I know, seems to lack the autostart file | 05:41 |
| Riddell | DPI script also doesn't seem to get run | 05:41 |
| Riddell | Lure-live: oh and there's two digikam options when I insert my usb disk | 05:41 |
| Riddell | oodrawing in lost and found | 05:41 |
| Riddell | fsview installed | 05:41 |
| Riddell | and kdm theme and background no set | 05:41 |
| Riddell | is my list | 05:41 |
| Lure-live | Riddell: ok, but nothing critical for tribe1, right? | 05:42 |
| Riddell | nah, tribe 1 can live with a few beasties | 05:42 |
| Hobbsee | like removing the hard drive? :P | 05:42 |
| Riddell | open office seems to have started using 16x16 icons | 05:43 |
| Riddell | hurts my eyes | 05:43 |
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| Lure-live | Riddell: :-( - my eyes hurt even more on this 145 DPI screen | 05:45 |
| Hobbsee | i'm not happy with how oo.o seems to have corrupted my .ppt | 05:45 |
| Lure-live | Riddell: should we document this issues on Feedback page? | 05:45 |
| Riddell | Lure-live: yes, please do | 05:45 |
| Lure-live | Riddell: will do after install | 05:45 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure-live: do you want me to test out any kind of modified version of guidance with a UPS? | 05:47 |
| Lure-live | nosrednaekim: no code yet, but if you can attach you lshal output (with ups attached) to that bug it would be great | 05:48 |
| Lure-live | nosrednaekim: I might wait for qt4 port to stabilize though before implementing any changes in powermanager | 05:48 |
| Lure-live | ok, need to reboot to see if install completed | 05:49 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: be glad it's not Koffice | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: true. i dont have that installed. | 05:49 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: Presentation in that is tuurible | 05:50 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure-live: ok, sure. its not on my kubuntu computer.. its on my brother's gentoo computer (same version of hal though) | 05:50 |
| DaSkreech | And it massacres odps as well | 05:50 |
| nosrednaekim | does that matter? | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: that's why i don tuse it | 05:50 |
| Lure-live | nosrednaekim: just append it and put a note it is from gentoo | 05:50 |
| DaSkreech | Hobbsee: It's the main weak link I like the rest of the suite over OO.o | 05:50 |
| nosrednaekim | will do. | 05:51 |
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| nixternal | Hobbsee: fixed the release notes, updated the image and added some new images for digiKam. | 06:16 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yay! | 06:16 |
| nixternal | man, the digikam light table function is pretty sweet | 06:17 |
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| nixternal | I wish Lure would have made separate screenies for it, his did so much justice to it | 06:18 |
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| Riddell | hi Lure, reboot ok? | 06:44 |
| Lure | Riddell: yes - had to run home in between ;-) | 06:45 |
| Lure | will install on my desktop too | 06:45 |
| Lure | Riddell: have updated isotracker page | 06:46 |
| nixternal | Lure: I added some new images for the digikam and then linked to the image you had to show it in full blown mode :) | 06:47 |
| Lure | nixternal: great - I just linked one image I know that exists ;-) | 06:47 |
| Lure | nixternal: I am just plain lazy ;-) | 06:47 |
| nixternal | image was good, but....it was done in windows or a windows vm, and instead of trying to crop it, I just tried my best to make a couple of new ones that shows some of the functionality | 06:48 |
| manchicken | Is there a win32 or OSX client for gobby? | 06:55 |
| nixternal | manchicken: http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Download | 07:01 |
| nixternal | no osx, but windows yes | 07:01 |
| Lure | nixternal: nice digikam writeup | 07:03 |
| Lure | nixternal: how did you make kdm login screenshot - I do not get kubuntu theme | 07:04 |
| nixternal | I had to change it with kde-kdm-themes | 07:04 |
| === Riddell fixing k-d-s for that now | ||
| nixternal | is it possible to change the head image at all in the user list? | 07:07 |
| Riddell | it should be, although so far it hasn't worked for me | 07:07 |
| Lure | Riddell: will there be tribe1 re-spin? | 07:08 |
| nixternal | maybe I will take a look at it when I get the time | 07:08 |
| nixternal | guidance installed with a little force today..so that was good | 07:08 |
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| Riddell | Lure: naw, no bugs are important enough | 07:09 |
| Lure | Riddell: btw, installing on my desktop (also manual part) -> no ubiquity crash | 07:09 |
| Riddell | curious | 07:09 |
| nixternal | sebas: I want that KDE sticker for my car! :) | 07:10 |
| nixternal | I need to find me some KDE stickers, t-shirts, and Kubuntu stickers and t-shirts | 07:10 |
| Riddell | ask sealne for t-shirts | 07:11 |
| nixternal | I did, they were super expensive to ship here, and I don't believe many sizes were left when I asked | 07:12 |
| Riddell | mm | 07:12 |
| Riddell | I'll bring some across for UDS in november no doubt | 07:13 |
| Riddell | but a while to wait that | 07:13 |
| Riddell | Lure: does amarok work with you for mp3s? | 07:16 |
| nixternal | I will show up to UDS if possible wearing a KDE thong and a Kubuntu t-shirt...so close your eyes | 07:17 |
| Lure | Riddell: need to find some mp3's first ;-) | 07:17 |
| Riddell | actually it freezes on some oggs too. kaffeine as well | 07:18 |
| nixternal | heh, I don't have any either | 07:18 |
| === Riddell blames xine | ||
| === nixternal tries some oggs | ||
| === Lure tries some .flac's | ||
| Riddell | who wants to test kdm fix? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kubuntu-default-settings_7.10-2ubuntu1_all.deb | 07:18 |
| nixternal | hrmm...I will | 07:18 |
| Riddell | need to install and sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start | 07:18 |
| nixternal | I want to know why my kdm login screen looks fine on my other box after a dist-upgrade, but doesn't with the alt install cd | 07:19 |
| Riddell | because it's only a problem for new installs | 07:20 |
| nixternal | ahh | 07:20 |
| Riddell | if you previously had the theme set the new kdm Debian config stuff doesn't change that | 07:20 |
| Riddell | but if you didn't then it looks for settings in /etc/default/kdm.d/ | 07:21 |
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| Riddell | which is altogether nicer | 07:21 |
| nixternal | ahh | 07:21 |
| nixternal | I also wonder why opendns breaks samba | 07:23 |
| sebas | nixternal: I'll send you a t-shirt as soon as I've got the new ones. | 07:28 |
| Riddell | sebas: new ones? | 07:29 |
| nixternal | sebas: you are my hero! | 07:29 |
| nixternal | sebas: ya, tank tops were so 1980's ;) | 07:30 |
| sebas | Yes, new t-shirts | 07:30 |
| nixternal | I know, I wore them when I was a teenager thinking I was a bad arse | 07:30 |
| sebas | nixternal: Remind me if I forget | 07:30 |
| nixternal | sebas: roger that...thanks! | 07:30 |
| DaSkreech | Now you just know you hvea bad arse? | 07:30 |
| nixternal | heh | 07:31 |
| Riddell | sebas: new t-shirts for what? | 07:33 |
| nixternal | my lord...I forgot just how awesome my speakers sounded on my big box...playing ogg files in kaffeine, no lock up so far | 07:33 |
| sebas | Riddell: KDE, nothing aKademy specific | 07:33 |
| Lure | Riddell: your k-d-s package is ok - I get new kubuntu theme | 07:34 |
| Lure | Riddell: btw, kdm stop seems to have minor bug (reports error) | 07:35 |
| nixternal | wo0t...VBox for Gutsy amd64 (using feisty deb) works great! | 07:35 |
| nixternal | d'oh, wrong chan | 07:35 |
| Lure | sebas: I am also interested for some kde shirt | 07:36 |
| sebas | Lure: Remind me as soon as I have them | 07:38 |
| Lure | sebas: will do - thanks | 07:38 |
| sebas | :) | 07:38 |
| Lure | Riddell: flac is playing fine - does freeze occur soon for you? | 07:38 |
| Lure | Riddell: how long does it play fine? | 07:39 |
| Riddell | Lure: yes, at the start | 07:39 |
| Lure | Riddell: ok, will convert some to ogg/mp3 and try that | 07:39 |
| nixternal | ogg seems to be working fine so far in kaffeine for me | 07:41 |
| Lure | Riddell: mp3 works (including the script to install mp3 support) | 07:45 |
| manchicken | Okay, so SOMEBODY made k3b rock. | 07:46 |
| Riddell | hmm, ok | 07:46 |
| Lure | manchicken: in what sense? | 07:46 |
| manchicken | I should send that person a cookie. | 07:46 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm? | 07:46 |
| manchicken | Lure: For one, it'll burn MP3s to CD. For another, reordering tracks works now. | 07:46 |
| manchicken | And the interface just overall sucks less than it did in 3.5.5 | 07:47 |
| DaSkreech | it did that before | 07:47 |
| === manchicken burns some happy-fun public domain music for his pops. | ||
| DaSkreech | burnt mp3s reordered and sucked | 07:47 |
| DaSkreech | oh | 07:48 |
| nixternal | 1MB download for gutsy daily alt image from cdimages.ubuntu.com | 07:48 |
| DaSkreech | maybe someone can help with this | 07:48 |
| DaSkreech | what would be responsible for spanning audio cds in Linux? | 07:48 |
| nixternal | wow, no clue | 07:49 |
| nixternal | I was wondering about a spanning app recently as well, but not for audio | 07:49 |
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| DaSkreech | I'm figuring that it must be the underlying tools for k3b but that would mean that all Linux stuff is hobbled | 07:55 |
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| nixternal | the latest daily fixes the boot screen I see | 08:02 |
| nixternal | but so far, it isn't doing anything...yet | 08:02 |
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| marseillai_ | i'm trying since two days to package katchtv a pykde program | 09:20 |
| marseillai_ | and i've still this error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24140/ | 09:20 |
| marseillai_ | anyone has an idea ? | 09:20 |
| fdoving | marseillai_: you can try to repackage the orig.tar.gz | 09:26 |
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| marseillai_ | oki | 09:31 |
| nixternal | katchtv doesn't use make | 09:33 |
| nixternal | the katchtv tarball is meant to be extracted and copied to a directory | 09:34 |
| nixternal | so you would need to setup rules to do just that, and then use a postinst script to create a symlink to /usr/bin | 09:34 |
| nixternal | and then create a desktop file and place it correctly | 09:35 |
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| DaSkreech | Whats ktraderclient? | 09:54 |
| nixternal | marseillai_: http://www.nixternal.com/pkg/misc/katchtv/ | 09:59 |
| nixternal | that is what it would look like..that is a rather nasty package..but it will give you an idea | 09:59 |
| nixternal | only thing that package is missing is copyright and desktop file really | 09:59 |
| marseillai_ | nixternal: oki | 10:00 |
| marseillai_ | finishing my shower | 10:00 |
| marseillai_ | and i'll take a look at it | 10:00 |
| nixternal | I had a package of it I used here, but I can't find it now | 10:00 |
| marseillai_ | i've allready the copyright file! :) | 10:00 |
| marseillai_ | nixternal: but if you want i send you my copyright file and you submit the package on revu ... | 10:01 |
| marseillai_ | as you want | 10:01 |
| nixternal | marseillai_: that package has your name written all over it :) | 10:01 |
| nixternal | you need to check first because that rules file is quite ugly..it is a cheap hack that I use for oxygen icons here locally | 10:02 |
| marseillai_ | oki | 10:03 |
| marseillai_ | nixternal: i'll firstly try to solve my problem with my package because i prefer cdbs! ;) | 10:03 |
| nixternal | I do to, but I don't know how cdbs reacts when there is no makefile and all of that | 10:04 |
| marseillai_ | a question | 10:05 |
| marseillai_ | how many times it takes for @ubuntu.com email to be ok ? | 10:05 |
| nixternal | took me a couple of weeks | 10:08 |
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| manchicken | Does katapult use the amarok data file, or does it actually hit amarok? | 10:10 |
| DaSkreech | Hits amarok as far I know the first time you search | 10:11 |
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| marseillai_ | fdoving: you were right repackage the archive works | 10:19 |
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| manchicken | It's not getting results from amarok. | 10:20 |
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| hunger | Sucky day today... | 10:52 |
| hunger | Managed to overwrite the blocks containing the keys to my homepartition:-( | 10:52 |
| nixternal | ouch :( | 10:56 |
| hunger | nixternal: Not too bad... I have backups. | 10:57 |
| nixternal | I wish I could say that...I need to start backing up again | 10:57 |
| marseillai | mmmmmmmm can i use dh_py{central,support} for a pykde apps ? | 10:58 |
| crimsun | if it's necessary, of course. | 10:58 |
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| Riddell | kwwii: about? | 11:03 |
| === hunger wonders how many changes happen is kdelibs4. I thought they were frozen. | ||
| ryanakca | wow, KDE4 is pretty interesting | 11:18 |
| hunger | ryanakca: Sure, but it sucks trying to port something to libs that keep changing all the time. | 11:19 |
| ryanakca | heh | 11:20 |
| hunger | ryanakca: And porting from kde3 to 4 is pretty complex without additional interferance from core developers;-) | 11:20 |
| === ryanakca is sticking to PyQt4 for now... by the time I'll have learned C++ (this summer), the libs will probably have been frozen | ||
| ryanakca | hunger: hmmm. porting basically means rewriting it for KDE4 in this case? | 11:21 |
| crimsun | I've been a bit hesitant to use PyQt4 for that reason | 11:22 |
| ryanakca | crimsun: hmm, well, once written in PyQt4, it won't have to be ported? | 11:23 |
| === ryanakca wonders about the differences between PyKDE and PyQt4 | ||
| === ryanakca --> supper | ||
| hunger | ryanakca: Buildsystem changes, IPC system changes, lots of details in KDE were changed. | 11:24 |
| hunger | ryanakca: plus I need to switch to a couple of new libs underneath my app. | 11:25 |
| === hunger shrugs. Life sucks:-) | ||
| hunger | is a update of libasound planned? kdelibs4 complains that the current version in gutsy is too old. | 11:33 |
| crimsun | yes, it is planned. | 11:34 |
| crimsun | 1.0.14 released after main was frozen for Tribe1 | 11:34 |
| hunger | Great! You guys rock! | 11:34 |
| crimsun | there are already outstanding issues with 1.0.14 | 11:35 |
| crimsun | the resampling patch that was applied earlier is broken; I have several reports of this in feisty | 11:35 |
| crimsun | I'll likely back it out for gutsy's alsa-lib 1.0.14 | 11:35 |
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| nosrednaekim | is there any plan to implement download script support in Adept? | 11:39 |
| Riddell | what's that? | 11:40 |
| nosrednaekim | you know like in Synaptic? you select some packages, then you select "generate package downlaod script" and it automatically makes a wget script | 11:42 |
| nosrednaekim | its the only thing keeping me from using adept which I otherwise prefer. | 11:42 |
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