[12:50] <DanaG> Wow, for once, Linux suspend worked again!
[01:33] <Dana1> That
[01:34] <Dana1> That's odd: when I resume from sleep, KDE apps can no longer open files or directories.
[01:34] <Dana1> It just sits there, doing nothing.
[02:15] <rat_> Hi all question is there a command in the terminal that can tell me the Horiz and Vertcal of my monitors. I am needing those in my xorg.conf file and I don't know how to find them out.
[02:16] <crdlb> rat_, if you don't know them, just leave the values off
[02:17] <crdlb> X will try to autodetect them
[04:04] <DanaG> Next week, I need to file a hal+gnome-power-manager bug on brightness control.
[04:04] <DanaG> Oh, and it's partly a kernel bug, too, perhaps:  /sys/class/backlight does not have all the info that /proc/acpi/video has,
[04:05] <DanaG> namely, the available brightness levels, and default AC and battery brightness levels.
[04:32] <Ashbringer> Hey, does anyone know whats up with the current feisty memstick driver? The .h file is missing in the stable and git releases...
[04:34] <borschty_> this is the channel for gutsy, feisty is stable already
[04:35] <Ashbringer> This is a dev channel, and feisty has a problem in its kernel source
[04:36] <borschty_> you should file a bug report using launchpad
[04:36] <Ashbringer> That problem being that a file is missing, and its missing in all versions. If I'm in the wrong channel, by all means redirect me, but the ubuntu development channel seems like the right place for this.
[04:36] <Ashbringer> This isn't a bug. No program is malfunctioning; the memstick driver is incomplete.
[04:38] <borschty_> this is the channel of the ubuntu development version the ubuntu-development chan is #ubuntu-devel, but i think #ubuntu-bugs might be the best place to ask
[04:38] <borschty_> but filing a bug helps the developers keeping track of that bug so you should do that anyway
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Ashbringer: it was filied as a bug early this morning
[04:38] <DanaG> The bug report is already there, at least for tifm_7xx1
[04:38] <Ashbringer> Finally
[04:39] <DanaG> Another odd thing on my laptop:
[04:39] <DanaG> FN-Super is ctrl-alt-del.
[04:39] <DanaG> Who knows why they made that so.....
[04:40] <DanaG> Wow, that's a really SUPER function!  Nyuk, nyuk.
[04:40] <borschty_> how many xservers did you kill before finding out? ;)
[04:41] <puck> Anyone using VMware server on gutsy?
[04:44] <DanaG> None.  I was sitting in my BIOS menu, or at Grub, when I tested it.
[04:47] <DanaG> damnit, that plugin must go.  It did that LOCALLY and SENT it instead of running ubotu.
[04:48] <DanaG> T'was a Pidgin plugin: "/exec" -- makes '!' send the results of something.
[04:48] <DanaG> !info
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <DanaG> aah, much better.  !info etherape
[04:51] <DanaG> http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/slashexec?format=txt
[04:51] <DanaG> Somebody needs to tell the devs that "bangexec" is a bad idea.
[05:29] <ToHellWithGA> my wireless card doesn't exist on the new kernel
[05:29] <ToHellWithGA> or rather it isn't found and assigned a name like eth1, ra0, ath0, etc.
[05:30] <ToHellWithGA> how should i file such a bug?
[05:32] <crimsun> which driver does it use?
[05:32] <ToHellWithGA> rt2500
[05:32] <crimsun> do you have the linux-generic metapackage installed along with ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop?
[05:32] <ToHellWithGA> i don't recall the name of the new ralink driver
[05:33] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: yessir, all 3.
[05:34] <crimsun> pastebinned your `dmesg` somewhere?
[05:35] <ToHellWithGA> i'd need to get that after booting the sketchy kernel
[05:35] <ToHellWithGA> i'll brb after restarting into that one to get it
[05:42] <ToHellWithGA> crimsun: http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/files/dmesg_2007_06_05.txt
[05:42] <crimsun> not in a position to debug for another day
[05:42] <ToHellWithGA> it's not exactly a pastebin, but i reckon my apache server can handle all those characters
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> would a link to that with a bug report of "rt2500-based chipset not assigned an interface" work?
[05:43] <ToHellWithGA> that's all i really know of it since i don't know what part of which bit of the kernel is failing
[06:24] <RAOF> Now, to teach gnome-power-manager that 20% battery charge corresponds to more than 0 minutes of useage left!
[06:44] <puck> Is there a commercial repository for gutsy?  ftp://archive.canonical.com isn't showing me the directories or files present.
[06:44] <puck> But http://archive.canonical.com works
[06:45] <puck> And no gutsy-commercial
[06:45] <ToHellWithGA> good
[06:45] <RAOF> I wouldn't think so, at this point?
[06:45] <ToHellWithGA> let them develop the all-free version first
[06:45] <ToHellWithGA> then let them have their commercial silliness
[06:45] <puck> Yeah, just trying to track down a working vmware server
[06:46] <ToHellWithGA> puck: have you tried Virtualbox?
[06:46] <ToHellWithGA> it's free .deb if not free speech yet
[06:47] <ToHellWithGA> the .deb has slightly more than you can legally build into it from free source
[06:47] <puck> Nope, haven't heard of it
[06:48] <puck> The catch is I already have some VMware images I need to access
[06:48] <RAOF> Don't you just need the player then?
[06:49] <puck> I don't think the player will work either.  The kernel modules aren't compiling.
[06:51] <ToHellWithGA> puck: what kind of image is it?
[06:51] <ToHellWithGA> the guest/vm image format, that is
[06:52] <puck> Whatever type VMware server creates.  But it is running Windows XP
[06:54] <ToHellWithGA> virtualbox uses .vdi files
[06:54] <ToHellWithGA> dunno if that's just a disk image or specs for the machine as well
[06:55] <ToHellWithGA> if the VM is XP a hardware change would render it unusable
[06:55] <ToHellWithGA> so the VM server would have to have similar bogus hardware
[08:51] <DanaG> er, wrong tab.
[08:51] <DanaG> http://paste.uni.cc/16126
[08:51] <DanaG> For Cal Poly ResNet.  Glad I live off campus.
[08:52] <Quinn_Storm> this is why I would live off campus were I to go to a university
[08:54] <DanaG> Oh yeah, since the plan to re-merge Beryl and Compiz, both projects have sort of gone "out of sight, out of mind" to me.
[08:54] <DanaG> I still use Beryl 2.1, except for plugins version 1.999999-something, because that was the last to allow transparent cube with magic lamp / sidekick.
[08:55] <DanaG> er, is it 1.2.1? .... whatever.
[08:56] <Quinn_Storm> well, opencomm/compcomm/whatever is getting better quickly and we will have a name soon(ish) and a release soon after
[08:56] <DanaG> I'm starting to like Coral ... as long as you can find fitting names for the windeco apps.
[08:56] <Quinn_Storm> that might be a problem
[08:57] <DanaG> Beryl does it right: all are gems (kinda-nice kinda-lame play on words).
[08:57] <Quinn_Storm> not just gems
[08:57] <Quinn_Storm> they are all forms of beryl
[08:58] <DanaG> Right, I forgot that part.
[08:58] <DanaG> Now look at the Pidgin project: prefs go in .purple, of all places.  And WTF does a finch have to do with a pidgin/pigeon (yes, I do like the play on words with the latter)?
[08:59] <Quinn_Storm> purple comes from prpl, which is preferences for plugin (I think)
[09:01] <DanaG> protocol plugin.
[09:01] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone do uname -r and tell me what kernel they are using?
[09:01] <DanaG> 2.6.22-6-generic, I think.
[09:01] <Quinn_Storm> yeah 2.6.22-generic here too
[09:03] <Hobbsee> -6-generic is the kernel for tribe 1
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks Quinn_Storm dwa
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: great thats what i needed to know
[09:03] <Hobbsee> unless the world breaks
[09:03] <Hobbsee> but that's the plan
[09:03] <Quinn_Storm> btw for those having suspend/resume issues with the intel modesetting driver, this xorg.conf fixes things for me - http://metascape.afraid.org:13666/~quinn/xorg.conf - see specifically in the section for the video card
[09:04] <DanaG> Odd thing for me: I re-flashed to the latest BIOS, and now suspend works again.
[09:04] <DanaG> At least sometimes.
[09:05] <Quinn_Storm> I had intermittant failures (traced down to memory getting klobbered) that this xorg.conf fixes by making the driver use a static blob of alloc'd memory instead of a dynamic memory manager
[09:15] <phin_> Quinn_Storm: what chipset are you using?
[09:16] <Quinn_Storm> intel, 945gm (i915), ich7 mobo (asus z35Fm Darter)
[09:16] <phin_> hmmm
[09:16] <phin_> my laptop has the 855gm
[09:16] <phin_> and i get alot of suspend resume issues
[09:16] <phin_> i'll give that xorg a whirl, ive tried just about everything else
[09:16] <phin_> lol
[09:17] <Quinn_Storm> heh, it might not work, back up your old one
[09:17] <phin_> ive got about 30 of them
[09:17] <phin_> lol
[09:17] <phin_> im gonna just take the lines you put in
[09:17] <phin_> and see if the ydo it
[09:17] <phin_> they*
[09:17] <phin_> in ever saw those before
[09:17] <phin_> i never*
[09:18] <phin_> ok and on that note, sleep time.  later
[09:48] <DanaG> Must sleep now.  Good night.
[11:03] <gnomefreak> anyone else running in to gpg issues in gutsy?
[11:07] <coNP> gnomefreak: what kind of gpg issues?
[11:07] <coNP> I use gutsy, gpg via enigmail and no "issues" so far
[11:08] <gnomefreak> coNP: try signing something outside of email
[11:11] <gnomefreak> example make a text file name it Release and try running gpg -o Release.gpg -abs Release on it
[11:13] <coNP> seems okay for me
[11:13] <coNP> how could I test if it really is?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> coNP: i gave you a way to test it.
[11:16] <coNP> okay that seems to work but how can I be sure that it works correctly?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> coNP: it should generate a Release.gpg file
[11:21] <coNP> okay, as I said it seems to work, I meant that is generated the .gpg file
[11:21] <gnomefreak> coNP: than i have alot of work to do ty
[11:22] <coNP> should I pastebin it somewhere or can I help somehow?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> no ill look into it further first
[12:16] <mikkael> where will i find tribe 1 when its released ?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> mikkael: in the topic of this channel
[12:17] <mikkael> okay, tomorrow ?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> mikkael: not sure yet. dont expect it to be on time
[12:18] <gnomefreak> mikkael: normally a day or so after the day they say. it all depends on how today goes
[12:19] <mikkael> is a seperated harddrive on a productive machine a safe place for gutsy ?
[12:20] <mikkael> in general i know how to fix broken stuff, since i used feisty from herd 2 on as my one and only os ..
[12:21] <mikkael> but people said, the feisty cycle was "calm"
[12:23] <gnomefreak> mikkael: feisty was calm
[12:23] <gnomefreak> mikkael: i cant say it will be safe but should be.
[12:23] <gnomefreak> for the separate drive
[12:24] <mikkael> and we gonna have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu realeased at the same time ?
[12:51] <[miles] > does anyone know the command to fire up the ncurse menu to reconfigure the network cards please?
[01:01] <[miles] > hi, does anyone know the command to reconfigure the nic's in ncurse menu please?
[01:28] <stefg> So how do things look? will tribe1 be released tomorrow, as planned?
[01:33] <Amaranth> CD images are building right now
[01:33] <Amaranth> if they pass testing it'll be out tomorrow, i guess
[01:36] <stefg> Amaranth: ok... so given that the install won't wipe my partition table or lowlevel format my drives there should be a spare partition to test it on my system :-9
[01:36] <stefg> which is real good a bustibg ubuntu-kernels, i might add :-)
[01:36] <stefg> *busting
[01:39] <siesel> Hi
[01:40] <siesel> I have issues with the menu system, would like to know in which package I can search for a fix
[02:40] <onechard> !network
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <Vorbote> Has rhythmbox metadata reading broke to anyone? The last upload 0.11.0-0ubuntu3 broke tag reading for mp3 and FLAC here. (It is is not a gstreamer issue, banshee and other players work fine).
[04:45] <DanaG>  Configuring uswsusp 
[04:45] <DanaG>   Instead of informative output you can enjoy a nice splash screen with progress bar during the suspend and resume process. For this to work you will need to have the splashy package installed.
[04:46] <DanaG> Odd, what about usplash?  Does splashy even work on Feisty/Gutsy?
[05:50] <onechard> !network
[05:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:54] <onechard> !kernel
[05:54] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:54] <onechard> !nforce
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <hwilde> !nvidia exists
[05:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia exists - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:55] <hwilde> !nvidia
[05:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:55] <hwilde> oh wait that is geforce
[05:56] <onechard> yeah have found a network issue when going beyond kernel 2.6.20
[05:56] <hwilde> wep key?
[05:57] <onechard> no ethernet found but no receive will send packets but not recieve
[05:58] <hwilde> lo exists and is up?
[07:06] <hwilde> 125 people here and nobody talks
[07:11] <DexterF> hi
[07:12] <DexterF> I got some questions to which I get only dumbfire of faces in regular channels - is here appropriate?
[07:12] <hwilde> !ask
[07:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:13] <DexterF> ok.
[07:14] <DexterF> 1.: I just migrated from slackware to kubuntu 7.04. I noticed that a lot of apps in kde assimilated settings that are only set in my old kde home on slack. I dodn't copy them, it's not symlinkedd, kub has a new /home of its own. what's going on here?
[07:15] <hwilde> that is an option during install import settings
[07:15] <DexterF> 2.: USB_SUSPEND in 2.6.21 messes with my usb hub. works alright from live DVD, slackware, win xp, knoppix, you name it. kub 7.04: no go, dmesg lists something about "bad cable" (nonsense, hub works fine)
[07:16] <DexterF> hwilde: well, I don't remember actively telling kub to import any settings. how can I check what it does/did/is gonna do?
[07:17] <hwilde> well it sounds like it did import so there you go
[07:17] <DexterF> 3.: I'd really prefer submount over autofs, but there's no package and it won't compile, compiler errors are beyond me.
[07:17] <DexterF> hwilde: well if it did, it imported this and that but not the other. stange imo. can I manually trigger import or is there an app that deos it?
[07:18] <hwilde> DexterF, 2. apt-get install usbmgr usbmount usbutils usbview.  these tools will give you some insight into the usb hub
[07:18] <hwilde> DexterF, I dunno I have only seen the import on install, and never used it.
[07:18] <hwilde> DexterF, 3. Get over it and use autofs then if you can't make submount work...
[07:18] <DexterF> not really what I'd like to hear, autofs sucks hard.
[07:19] <hwilde> then I suggest you learn to compile submount
[07:20] <hwilde> or try www.getdebs.net
[07:23] <DexterF> hwilde: well, submount compiled just fine on slack, which uses gcc3, so I suspect gcc4 to be a syntax nazi or so. il check that link.
[07:24] <DexterF> that site doesn't exist
[07:27] <hwilde> ummm
[07:28] <hwilde> www.getdeb.net
[07:32] <DexterF> no go. guess ill find some coders....
[07:59] <limetang> Hi. Whenever I do System -> Quit, the dialogue box which should appear takes a few minutes to do so.
[08:18] <finalbeta> limetang: that's been posted on the gutsy forum. a bugreport has been made. search please.
[08:19] <limetang> Oh, errr... Sorry.
[08:20] <DanaG> Whenever I do system->quit, the dialog appears right away; however, sometimes selecting "log out" kills all input without ending my session.
[08:43] <DigitalNinja> When does gutsy come out?
[08:46] <kalpik> DigitalNinja, October '07
[08:47] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way I can put up a mirror and help push out gutsy
[08:48] <DigitalNinja> Or are the mirrors controlled by the ubuntu team
[08:54] <kalpik> DigitalNinja, you can become an official mirror, but you have to ask on ubuntu.com
[08:54] <DigitalNinja> I see
[08:54] <DigitalNinja> Maybe that's not something I should do
[08:55] <DigitalNinja> Not sure how long I can keep the server up and running
[08:56] <DigitalNinja> I would like to offer the service though
[08:56] <limetang> It isn't just a home computer, is it?
[08:58] <DigitalNinja> No
[08:58] <DigitalNinja> I would get something at server beach or rack space
[08:59] <limetang> K, just checking.
[08:59] <DigitalNinja> I'm assuming the download speed from them would be fast but I have never tried it
[09:00] <DigitalNinja> server beach has good prices
[09:00] <DigitalNinja> maybe I should give them a call
[09:01] <Dutchy> what are these 'tribe cds' listed on the schedule
[09:20] <DanaG> On my laptop, the PC speaker no longer works after snd-hda-intel loads.
[09:20] <DanaG> Is that a bug, or a feature?  You decide.
[09:30] <edgy> DanaG: it also doesn't work for me but are you sure it works for you before that?
[09:32] <ToHellWithGA> DanaG: feature
[10:40] <johnnybuoy> hi all!
[10:41] <johnnybuoy> this may very well not be gutsy related, but I can't find an answer to it:
[10:41] <johnnybuoy> trying to compile telepathy-sharp I get this:
[10:41] <johnnybuoy> /bin/bash: no: command not found
[10:41] <johnnybuoy> what could contain this "no" it's talking about?
[11:32] <techwhore> anyone here using ubuntu+1 to work ?
[11:35] <borschty_> i use ubuntu+1 as only os on my desktop pc (still have my laptop running feisty in case something crashs)
[11:39] <puck> techwhore:  I am, on my notebook
[11:40] <puck> Suspend is an off again on again affair.