[12:06] <bdmurray> vid: try 'ps aux | grep ubiq'
[12:07] <vid> bdmurray: one line displays... installer is still running?
[12:08] <bdmurray> vid: possibly what is the line
[12:09] <vid> ubuntu 12574 0.0 0.0 2884 760 pts/0 S+ 01:07 0:00 grep ubiq
[12:09] <vid> bdmurray: (i'm still newbie to gnu/linux as you can see)
[12:10] <bdmurray> that is our searching for the process
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118860 in gqview (main) "GQview v2.0.4 is available, update it from upstream" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118860
[12:10] <vid> bdmurray: oh, right... i should have noticed "grep" :)
[12:11] <bdmurray> can you copy it off right now?
[12:11] <vid> no... still permission denied
[12:12] <bdmurray> try 'sudo cp . . .'
[12:12] <vid> can't it be some root/user issue?
[12:12] <vid> bdmurray: yeah
[12:13] <vid> bdmurray: worked, thx
[12:15] <bdmurray> sure, no problem
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118861 in alsa-driver (main) "Alsa loses AC'97 SPDIF output in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118861
[12:24] <DaveMorris> hey guys if a bug submitter has been asked for more info, how long do you normally wait afterwards before rejecting the bug?
[12:24] <bdmurray> ~4 weeks
[12:25] <DaveMorris> thanks
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118862 in update-manager (main) "update-manager -c -d DOESN'T work for going to Gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118862
[12:26] <bdmurray> DaveMorris: are you looking at anything or groups of things in particular?
[12:27] <DaveMorris> bugs concerning mythtv
[12:29] <DaveMorris> is that alright?
[12:29] <bdmurray> Sure! I think there is a recently formed mythtv team too if you are interested in joining it.
[12:30] <DaveMorris> already in it :)
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118863 in kdebase (main) "[Gutsy]  extra icons on desktop in kubuntu daily 20070605" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118863
[12:31] <bdmurray> ah, cool
[12:37] <DaveMorris> how do you setup ubot to aut report new bugs here?
[12:39] <bdmurray> DaveMorris: ubotu is owned by Seveas so check with him
[12:39] <bdmurray> !help
[12:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:40] <DaveMorris> thanks
[12:40] <bdmurray> no problem
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118864 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  Broken modules in kde system settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118864
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118866 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with signal 25" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118866
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118868 in mail-spf-perl (universe) "No write access to files in source archive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118868
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118871 in Ubuntu "devanagari fonts break licenses" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118871
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118872 in gnome-panel (main) "iniciando google earth desde el automatic2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118872
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118873 in network-manager (main) "network manager updates routing table incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118873
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118874 in Ubuntu "wrong font encoding for Aakar, Rekha" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118874
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118875 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Memory displays 0 bytes for almost every processes." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118875
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #118879 in k3d (universe) "Programm starts, then immediatly closes with error: Segmentation fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118879
[02:38] <ubotu> New bug: #118877 in ttf-indic-fonts (main) "rachana font breaks copyright" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118877
[02:38] <ubotu> New bug: #118878 in ttf-indic-fonts (main) "utkal font breaks copyright" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118878
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118528 in evolution (main) "category icons not displayed in task, memo view" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118528
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118880 in Ubuntu "network is starting with eth2 instead of eth1 on second nic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118880
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118881 in Ubuntu "Reboot required to fix erratic firefox behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118881
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118882 in Ubuntu "wish: sysrq enhancements (more actions)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118882
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118883 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel panic while loading Intel module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118883
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118885 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice doesn't play swf files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118885
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118886 in firefox (main) "flash app crashed firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118886
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118887 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "[patch]  spelling fixes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118887
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Would this be better submitted as a spec or a bug or something else, it doesn't quite fit anywhere https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/restricted-manager/+bug/118581
[04:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118581 in restricted-manager "Firmware for broadcom cards should be included in restricted-manager" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[04:29] <Jordan_U> ?
[04:44] <jgamio>  Jordan_U: I think is ok in the bug
[04:47] <jgamio>  Jordan_U: I get this in a message:  Specifications/blueprints are quite a heavyweight process, so small
[04:47] <jgamio> features that don't require complicated design work should remain as
[04:47] <jgamio> wishlist bugs rather than being redirected to specifications.
[04:47] <Burgundavia> Jordan_U: that is a bug, not a spec
[04:48] <Jordan_U> That's what I figured
[04:49] <Burgundavia> a spec woudl be asking for the inital implementation, or merging the manager into a larger hardware managwer
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118888 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "bzr displayconfig-gtk #51 fails to run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118888
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118892 in nautilus (main) "The side pane tree doesn't expand" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118892
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118893 in kdeutils (main) "Ark Crashed Opening ZIP FIle" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118893
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #102655 in system76 "network manager does not work after resume from suspend (dup-of: 45696)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102655
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118895 in desktop-effects (main) "Help for desktop-effects has bad link to Compiz website" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118895
[05:33] <bdmurray> actually it really is neither
[05:34] <bdmurray> I don't think Broadcom's license allows redistribution of their firmware
[05:34] <bdmurray> Jordan_U, Burgundavia ^^
[05:35] <Burgundavia> bdmurray: yes, that is true
[05:35] <Jordan_U> bdmurray, bcm43xx-fwcutter already automatically downloads the drivers and extracts the firmware so I think the legality has been dealt with
[05:36] <Burgundavia> what we can ship is a firmware cutter
[05:37] <bdmurray> okay, you guys win.
[05:38] <bdmurray> I'll go back to doing something else. ;)
[05:38] <Burgundavia> heh
[05:38] <bdmurray> maybe I'll win with it. ;)
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118897 in openoffice.org (main) "In Writer, if I paste a url into the document, text bolding is sporratic and unstable for the rest of the document, until I restart. It was a Word XP document." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118897
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118898 in Ubuntu "Desktop pulldown "Applications/Office" has reference to "Evolution" after I removed Evolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118898
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #118900 in evince (main) "evince cannnot read the built in comments in a pdf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118900
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #118901 in libapache2-mod-encoding (universe) "Feisty's libapache2-mod-encoding binary have a broken ABI,plz rebuild." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118901
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118902 in sysvinit (main) "Can't shutdown because an NFS share isn't being unmounted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118902
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118903 in mpg321 (universe) "mp3 preview in Nautilus skips a lot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118903
[07:00] <j1mc> hi all...
[07:01] <j1mc> need help filing a bug:  test install of gutsy came up mostly fine (yeay), but no trash applet in lower-right panel.
[07:01] <j1mc> hovering over panel tells me:
[07:01] <j1mc> failed to connect to trash: failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch dbus session
[07:02] <j1mc> i know i can post that as a bug report, but would that be enough?
[07:02] <j1mc> was thinking of filing it under dbus... ?
[07:03] <j1mc> this is in xubuntu, which is awesome.  :)
[07:05] <j1mc> via Admiral_Chicago, here's a screenshot http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9347/xubuntugutsyoa0.png
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> :)
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118904 in Ubuntu "Usplash doesn't show up on text install of fiesty using alternate install cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118904
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> j1mc: that was in a VM but i'm sure you can reproduce
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> we may need to see #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <j1mc> this channel is not for test release bugs?
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> its for all bugs. +1 is for gutsy help
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it would be against package dbus though
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> let me run something j1mc
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> something == bughelper
[07:07] <j1mc> of course
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> bug 109436
[07:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109436 in dbus "[apport]  dbus-launch crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109436
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> looking for a know issue j1mc
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> may / may not be reported.
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> j1mc: did you get a crash dump or just a dialogue box
[07:11] <j1mc> only a message when i hovered my mouse over where the trash icon should be.  wasn't sure where to look (/var/log/...) otherwise.
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> /var/crash iirc
[07:13] <j1mc> ok.  please see my message in #ubuntu-chicago
[07:13] <j1mc> i gotta get some zz's.  *yawns*
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118905 in deskbar-applet (main) "beryl: deskbar sometimes doesn't focus when keyboard shortcut pressed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118905
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118906 in console-common (universe) "Console displays colors incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118906
[08:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118911 in thunderbird (main) "UI becomes unresponsive when background network activity stalls" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118911
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118912 in gedit (main) "wrong behaviour of GeditDocument 'saving' signal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118912
[09:10] <dholbach> good morning
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> hello dholbach
[09:12] <dholbach> hey Admiral_Chicago
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118914 in firefox (main) "Firefox: Please default browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll to true" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118914
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118916 in boinc (universe) "upgrade to 5.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118916
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118917 in kid3 (universe) "Please merge kid3 0.8.1-3 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118917
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #118918 in kde-guidance (main) "guidance-backends and kde-guidance conflict" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118918
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118919 in dbus (main) "dbus-launch does not exist in dbus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118919
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118920 in nautilus (main) "Cannot tab forward after tabbing backward in Nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118920
[10:43] <viviersf> has anyone ever noticed that metacity themes cause the 'close' button not to function al lthe time ?
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118921 in thunderbird (main) "The wrong message appears in the preview pane" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118921
[10:47] <crimsun> do you mean third-party metacity themes?
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #118922 in gnome-applets (main) "Mac DiskUtility won't format external drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118922
[10:58] <viviersf> crimsun, yeh
[10:58] <viviersf> crimsun, just want to find out of its possible ?
[11:11] <crimsun> I haven't reproduced it locally, but YMMV
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118924 in gnome-panel (main) "can not load gnome settings daemon, totem movie player, volume adjusting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118924
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118925 in gnome-session (main) "No more suspend buttons on logout dialog" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118925
[11:35] <bigon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+bug/118858 O_o
[11:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118858 in yelp "Closing remarks upon, I hope, the conclusion of this affair " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118927 in xfdesktop4 (main) "Xfcedesktop crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118927
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118928 in xine-ui (universe) "Please sync xine-ui (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118928
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118930 in glibc (main) "Resolver: MAXNS should be increased" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118930
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118931 in evince (main) "evince does not create thumbnails anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118931
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118932 in Ubuntu "the keyboard doesn't fonction[feisty] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118932
[12:36] <pochu> mvo: update-manager hangs when I click on "Install Updates". Are you aware of it?
[12:47] <pochu> Hey Arby!
[12:47] <Arby> hi pochu
[12:47] <pochu> Arby: are you running Gutsy atm?
[12:47] <Arby> not here, I'm at work
[12:47] <Arby> my work laptop has feisty on it
[12:48] <coNP> hey pochu
[12:48] <pochu> Hey coNP :)
[12:48] <coNP> I have a gutsy system here if I can help
[12:48] <Arby> I have a kubuntu gutsy machine at home but that's not much use right now
[12:48] <pochu> Sure! Can you check whether update-manager>Install Updates works or not?
[12:48] <coNP> no, it is not true: I have a gutsy here anyway :)
[12:48] <coNP> okay
[12:49] <pochu> Arby: I'm afraid kubuntu doesn't have update-manager ;)
[12:49] <pochu> Though you could have
[12:49] <pochu> could install it
[12:49] <Arby> well you didn't specify that :)
[12:50] <pochu> :)
[12:50] <coNP> no updates for now
[12:50] <pochu> argh!
[12:50] <pochu> coNP: even after an apt-get update?
[12:51] <coNP> sure
[12:51] <coNP> I have the bad habit of updating my system regularly :)
[12:51] <pochu> hehe :)
[12:51] <coNP> np, I reinstall some old packages
[12:51] <pochu> Good idea :)
[12:53] <coNP> pochu: sorry, it seems to work perfectly :)
[12:53] <pochu> Then I might have a problem :)
[12:53] <pochu> It hangs when I click on it.
[12:55] <Arby> do you both have the same version?
[12:59] <Arby> oh well, just a thought
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118934 in linux-meta (main) "Latest kernel 2.6.20-16.28 starts very very very slow and thus hangs. 2.6.20-15 works perfectly." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118934
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118935 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice page numbering does not allow page offset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118935
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118936 in alacarte (main) "Alacarte does not recover deleted menu items" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118936
[01:14] <kugg> Hi, I have found a bug in possibly compiz,gnome or metacity could anyone of you give me 15mins for reproduction and confirmation?
[01:15] <DarkMageZ> kugg, disable compiz and give it another try.
[01:17] <kugg> Ok the bug is in compiz
[01:18] <kugg> To reproduce: press alt + tab and rightclick two times then when the pointer is released leftclick the snapshot of your current application
[01:19] <DarkMageZ> kugg, the guys in #compiz might be a better group to talk about compiz issues with.
[01:19] <kugg> The window manager will freeze but music continues and all that
[01:19] <kugg> well ok
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118937 in openoffice.org (main) "show Tango icons if Tangerine is being used" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118937
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118938 in rubrica (universe) "Please sync rubrica (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118938
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118939 in apport (main) "KDE programme segfaults call the KDE crash manager, not Apport" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118939
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118941 in regina-normal (universe) "Please sync regina-normal (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118941
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118943 in mythtv (multiverse) "mythtv wants to restart my session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118943
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118944 in tagpy (universe) "Gutsy python-tagpy depends on old libboost-python making it uninstallable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118944
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118945 in Ubuntu "[compiz / Feisty] screensaver flashing when activated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118945
[02:42] <pochu> slomo: I've packaged liferea 1.2.16b, which reduces the wakeups from ~200 to ~2 :) I've also merged it with Debian.
[02:43] <pochu> slomo: It's at http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/ (with 2 diffs, so it's easier to review), if you can take a look at it :)
[02:43] <slomo> pochu: per second? nice, will upload :)
[02:43] <slomo> you should really, really get upload rights asap :P
[02:43] <slomo> it's boring to review your packages, no errors :)
[02:43] <pochu> slomo: lol :)
[02:44] <pochu> slomo: btw, liferea is in main, so either maintain it yourself, or review it :p
[02:44] <slomo> thanks for all the diffs, saves me some minutes :)
[02:44] <pochu> sure :)
[02:45] <pochu> It builds and works fine (running it since yesterday)
[02:45] <pochu> And it's nice in powertop :)
[02:45] <pochu> 100x less wake ups
[02:45] <slomo> what wakeups did they need at all?
[02:46] <slomo> the only thnig i imagine is the feed updating
[02:46] <slomo> everything else should be possible via events instead of polling
[02:46] <pochu> It was a bug. A C function which was in microseconds instead of miliseconds.
[02:46] <pochu> So 5000 was 5 miliseconds instead of 5 seconds ;)
[02:47] <slomo> pochu: we want to suggest dbus-x11 in liferea bwt
[02:47] <slomo> or maybe even recommend
[02:47] <slomo> as it will call dbus-launch when no session bus is available
[02:48] <slomo> i.e. ssh -X sessions :)
[02:48] <slomo> pochu: and the liferea-xulrunner provides/conflicts/replaces shouldn't be dropped
[02:48] <slomo> they don't hurt and only add a new delta
[02:49] <pochu> Right
[02:49] <pochu> btw, why do we need libxt-dev as build-dep? I can't remember it.
[02:49] <slomo> and i wonder if we need the liferea-mozilla package at all
[02:49] <slomo> as liferea provides/conflicts/replaces it
[02:50] <slomo> and if we need it we definitely need a liferea-gtkhtml package too (dapper upgrades)
[02:50] <pochu> and liferea-liblua? :p
[02:50] <slomo> libxt-dev was for xsm stuff
[02:50] <slomo> -lua was only in one revision, not in any release
[02:50] <slomo> that can be dropped
[02:50] <pochu> Debian removed all the dummy packages with 1.2.14, but readded it with 1.2.15b
[02:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118946 in cdrom-checker (main) "infinite loop if cdrom is not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118946
[02:51] <slomo> could you try to build without the libxt-dev b-d in pbuilder and see if xsm support is enabled (it says that at the end of cofnigure)
[02:51] <pochu> Debian #425472
[02:51] <ubotu> Debian bug 425472 in liferea "Dependencies of liferea not satisfied in sid" [Unknown,Closed]  http://bugs.debian.org/425472
[02:51] <slomo> ok, then we need liferea-mozilla, liferea-gtkhtml dummy packages
[02:51] <pochu> slomo: sure
[02:52] <slomo> pochu: ok, cool :) tell me when you have a new version uploaded
[02:53] <pochu> Sure, thanks!
[02:53] <slomo> so: metapackages, not dropping c/r/p for xulrunner, check if libxt-dev is required and suggest dbus-x11
[02:53] <slomo> that should be all
[03:00] <dholbach> hey thekorn
[03:00] <dholbach> thekorn: how's it going?
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #45772 in rosetta "There is something wrong when I translate pos on launchpad.net. (dup-of: 46156)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45772
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118948 in gnome-compiz-manager (universe) "gnome-compiz-preferences does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118948
[03:03] <pochu> slomo: upgrading from liferea[-mozilla] _1.2.10c (feisty) works fine. I don't think we need the dummy packages at all, as long as we conflict/replace/provide them.
[03:03] <pochu> Gonna try upgrade from dapper.
[03:03] <slomo> cool
[03:04] <pochu> !info liferea dapper
[03:04] <ubotu> liferea: feed aggregator for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.12-0ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 726 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[03:08] <thekorn> hey dholbach, I'm fine but busy these days,
[03:08] <dholbach> thekorn: good to know you're still fine - whate are you busy with? lots of work?
[03:11] <thekorn> yeah, I've to prepare two seminar-talks for the next week, last two for this semester
[03:12] <dholbach> ah right
[03:12] <dholbach> good luck with that then!
[03:36] <fernando> moin all
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118949 in compiz (main) "Comiz corrupts GRUB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118949
[03:45] <slomo> pochu: how do things look for liferea? :)
[03:48] <pochu> slomo: I was having lunch, gonna test the dapper>gutsy upgrade :)
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118952 in mythtv (multiverse) "lintian warnings in gutsy build" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118952
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118953 in blender (universe) "blender causes entire system to hang on adding anything" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118953
[03:52] <ogra> pochu, dapper-gutsy ? thats not even remotely supposed to work, dont waste your time
[03:53] <pochu> ogra: just the dapper liferea packages in gutsy, to see if we really need transitional packages :)
[03:53] <pochu> !info dbus-1-2 dapper
[03:53] <ubotu> Package dbus-1-2 does not exist in dapper
[03:54] <ogra> oh, ah ... i thought you talk about dist upgrades :)
[03:54] <ogra> ignore me then :)
[03:57] <pochu> slomo: it's updated fine, so we don't need any transitional package, I think.
[03:57] <slomo> pochu: nice :)
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118955 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with IOError in get_module_license()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118955
[04:13] <pochu> slomo: debian has libxml-parser-perl as build-dep. It doesn't look like it will hurt. Should I add it?
[04:14] <pochu> I ask because I don't know what it is for... If it's useless, I can file a bug in Debian.
[04:14] <slomo> pochu: yes (it's not necessary for us as intltool depends libxml-parser-perl)
[04:14] <slomo> leave it there to have a smaller delta
[04:14] <slomo> :)
[04:15] <pochu> oh, ok :)
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #118956 in dmraid (universe) "dmraid fails to properly recognise VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118956
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #118923 in hwdb-client "hwdb-gui is not asking whether hibernation and suspend work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118923
[04:26] <pochu> slomo: Use X Session Management........ : yes :)
[04:27] <slomo> pochu: perfect
[04:30] <pochu> slomo: reuploaded :) http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/
[04:31] <pochu> I've removed the transitional packages, readded liferea-xulrunner for the delta, and changed the dependencies
[04:32] <pochu> (removed libxt-dev and added libxml-parser-perl)
[04:33] <slomo> the xulrunner conflict should be unversioned
[04:33] <slomo> that's debian's problem with upgrading i guess ;)
[04:33] <slomo> i'll change it for you
[04:33] <pochu> It's just to keep even lower the delta :)
[04:33] <pochu> Since we don't care, we have never built it.
[04:34] <pochu> And I can't understand why Debian has that problem. Our apt removes the non-needed packages.
[04:34] <slomo> their's doesn't
[04:34] <slomo> and the problem is that the conflict is versioned
[04:35] <slomo> unversioned c/p/r does magic in dpkg afaik
[04:35] <pochu> Hmm, I used aptitude.
[04:35] <pochu> :)
[04:35] <pochu> I should probably install Sid.
[04:38] <slomo> pochu: uploaded
[04:39] <pochu> slomo: thanks!
[04:41] <slomo> pochu: if you want to make me happy btw fix the "green arrow" icon in the liferea toolbar for marking stuff as read
[04:41] <slomo> pochu: it has really bad quality ;)
[04:41] <slomo> and i don't exactly know why, it should be a gtk stock icon unless stuff is broken
[04:42] <pochu> slomo: with bad quality you mean that it's corrupted, or that you don't like it?
[04:42] <pochu> It doesn't look that bad here :)
[04:43] <pochu> slomo: and it's not in liferea's tarball, so it should be a gtk icon, shouldn't it?
[04:43] <slomo> pochu: i can count the pixels at the edges of the arrow without zooming in :P
[04:45] <pochu> slomo: I can't here. http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/Screenshot-Liferea.png
[04:46] <pochu> I don't really know why you have that.
[04:46] <pochu> If you iluminate me, I'll be glad to fix it :)
[04:48] <slomo> pochu: use another icon theme please :) i use plain tango
[04:48] <pochu> I use Ubuntu's default :)
[04:51] <pochu> slomo: I see it now. But it's a bug in the theme, and not in liferea! :)
[04:52] <slomo> pochu: then it's a bug in gtk... can you care for it please? (upstream and ubuntu) :)
[04:52] <pochu> Yeah :)
[04:52] <slomo> i wonder when we will get gtk 2.11, maybe it's already fixed there with the tangofied icons
[04:54] <pochu> 2.11 is the development branch, so maybe we won't get it until 2.12 is out
[04:54] <slomo> or when seb is back... wherever he is :)
[04:54] <pochu> :)
[04:55] <slomo> iirc some gnome stuff already depends on .11
[04:57] <pochu>  - The builtin stock icons have been replaced by a new set of icons
[04:57] <pochu>    which are visually compatible with Tango
[04:57] <pochu> Dunno if that fixes it :)
[04:57] <slomo> yep, that's what i meant :)
[04:58] <pochu> Cool!
[04:58] <slomo> it will probably fix it as this icon should've been updated too :)
[04:58] <pochu> Then no need to file a bug :)
[04:58] <pochu> anyway, whenever we have gtk2.11 we can check it :)
[04:59] <slomo> :)
[04:59] <slomo> bbl
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118959 in update-manager (main) "synaptic and update-manager won't load" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118959
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #118960 in lastfm (universe) "crash if alsa device is busy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118960
[05:11] <ubotu> New bug: #118961 in lastfm (universe) "crash if /dev/dsp is busy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118961
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #118963 in postfix (main) "postfix chroot environment doesn't have ca-certificates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118963
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #118964 in csound (universe) "Please drop csound & cecilia from ia64 and amd64" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118964
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118965 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with IOError in get_module_license()" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118965
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118966 in Ubuntu "nethack-gnome hangs after creating character" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118966
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118967 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashed with IndexError in child()" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118967
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118968 in ubiquity (main) "migration: user not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118968
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118970 in vim (main) "Vi partially installed by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118970
[06:22] <Admiral_Chicago> morning everyone
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #118974 in epiphany (universe) "No sane error message when downloading from invalid certificate	SSL connection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118974
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118975 in mod-bt (universe) "Please sync mod-bt (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118975
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #118977 in samba (main) "winbindd will not start do to invalid cache path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118977
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118978 in Ubuntu "HIbernate unloads saa7134 module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118978
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #118979 in ubuntustudio-meta (universe) "Corrupted package files in ubuntustudio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118979
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #118982 in compiz (main) "compiz & java windows always grey" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118982
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #118983 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl & java windows always grey" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118983
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118985 in democracyplayer (universe) "Gstreamer problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118985
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118986 in evolution (main) "Evolution Mail, auto upgrade to version 2.10.2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118986
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #118987 in linux-meta (main) "Nokia 5300 USB Mass Storage disconnects semi-randomly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118987
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118988 in Ubuntu "No way to disable trash in nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118988
[08:09] <bdmurray> pochu: ping
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #118989 in eog (main) "Plugin system problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118989
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #118990 in tailor (universe) "tailor doesn't pass self test" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118990
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118992 in acidrip (multiverse) "[gutsy]  acidrip crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118992
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #118993 in bluez-utils (main) "hidd bluetooth mouse connection interferes with headset" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118993
[08:38] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: can i ping
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118994 in openoffice.org2-amd64 (main) "Zoom-Dropdown does not work properly with mousewheel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118994
[08:46] <bdmurray> slackwarelife: yes, I am here
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #118996 in kdenetwork (main) "[gutsy]  Kopete dies shortly after starting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118996
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #118997 in openoffice.org2-amd64 (main) "Kubuntu Gutsy: ooo-draw menu item in lost & found" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118997
[09:06] <pochu> bdmurray: pong
[09:07] <bdmurray> pochu: I think I had some translation work fory
[09:07] <bdmurray> you even. ;)
[09:07] <pochu> hehe
[09:07] <bdmurray> bug 61701
[09:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 61701 in Ubuntu "ubuntu 6.10 testing, fallos, y fallo provocado por actualizacin" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/61701
[09:14] <pochu> bdmurray: bug 61701 :)
[09:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 61701 in Ubuntu "ubuntu 6.10 knot, bugs, and bug caused by an update." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/61701
[09:14] <pochu> Hope it helps :)
[09:16] <bdmurray> perhaps, thanks for doing that
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118999 in Ubuntu "totem xine crash while playing a .mov file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118999
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119000 in pidgin (main) "Pidgin forgets Bonjour aliases/notes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119000
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119001 in metacity (main) "Alt-F6 keybinding hardcoded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119001
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119002 in Ubuntu "refresh rate list in error, gnome settings (7.04)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119002
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119004 in gnome-pilot (main) "[Feisty]  Gnome Pilot crashes when syncing tasks with Treo 650" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119004
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119006 in openoffice.org (main) "OpenOffice.org crashes on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119006
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119008 in Ubuntu "Update Audicious" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119008
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119009 in gcompris (main) "gcompris hangs playing graphical games" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119009
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119007 in bluez-gnome (main) "We need a better and more complete "Bluetooth preferences" GUI in control pannel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119007
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119010 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Netscape Navigator 9" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119010
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119012 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Gendesign" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119012
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118951 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  mute" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118951
[11:49] <slackwarelife> bdmurry: you can see me. I have ping you
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119013 in evolution (main) "Evolution crashes when editing IMAP account" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119013
[11:52] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: probably I have problem to ping you
[11:53] <slackwarelife> bug
[11:54] <bdmurray> hmm, I'm not sure what it might be
[11:54] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: bug 113793
[11:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113793 in Ubuntu "error in terminal after upgrading to Feisty" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113793
[11:55] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: this my problem
[11:55] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: I didn't understant his problem
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119014 in Ubuntu "Cdrom doesn't mount and it doesn't even eject" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119014
[11:56] <bdmurray> slackwarelife: looking now
[11:59] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: ok, i think it is a bug, but i don't know to who i can send it
[12:00] <bdmurray> slackwarelife: based off this comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/113793/comments/9 it looks like a kernel bug
[12:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113793 in Ubuntu "error in terminal after upgrading to Feisty" [Undecided,Needs info] 
[12:03] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: who is the user i can send it
[12:04] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: I'm not good in kernel bug
[12:04] <slackwarelife> bdmurray: I will confirm it
[12:05] <bdmurray> slackwarelife: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[12:05] <bdmurray> they will want 'dmesg' 'sudo lspci-vvn' and 'uname -a' then confirm and assign to ubuntu-kernel-team