[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me add a picture attachment at this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> i've attached the image, just not sure how to call it within the document.
[08:31] <nixternal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Kubuntu
[08:31] <nixternal> see how I did it
[08:31] <nixternal> attachment:name.png
[08:31] <nixternal> if you want it looking secksy, do it the way I do with the thumbnails
[08:31] <nixternal> otherwise you get a bunch of of big images, and some people don't know how to correctly shadow, so they put up a bad looking page
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: looking now
[08:32] <nixternal> would be nice if I could easily float images in moinmoin and the == foo is bar == headers would automatically do breaks
[08:32] <nixternal> err, clear: both
[08:33] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: it seems you haven't uploaded a correct image type
[08:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i used jpg and png, it didn't like either beuno
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: what kind of image should i upload?
[08:34] <nixternal> png is what I do, however jpg is fine, no gifs
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: you alos linked me to a 404...
[08:34] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: look now
[08:35] <beuno> you have to give it an extension  :D
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: thanks
[08:36] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: at your service
[08:36] <beuno> I'm going to bed now though  :p
[08:36] <beuno> have fun!
[08:37] <nixternal> I did
[08:37] <nixternal> haha I did
[08:37] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/blah
[08:37] <nixternal> k..one sec
[08:38] <nixternal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Kubuntu
[08:38] <nixternal> must have done /ubh instead of /ubw
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: looking...
[08:42] <nixternal> beuno: just so you know, I envy you
[08:43] <beuno> nixternal: don't, think of all the beers you'll be able to drink here next year with our exchange rate   ;)
[08:43] <beuno> I'll take you to the best bars!
[08:43] <nixternal> very true...oh, and I staying at your house...so have some brewhahas ready :)
[08:43] <nixternal> man I can't type tonight
[08:44] <beuno> sure thing, "open ubuntu house"
[08:44] <beuno> well, you might be DD by then   :p
[08:44] <nixternal> I can only wish
[08:45] <beuno> I'm checking out hotels and conference rooms as soon as I get back from my trip, seems the same amount of money used in europe can take us a ling way here   :D
[08:46] <beuno> (think free beer every night)
[08:46] <nixternal> haha
[08:46] <nixternal> free as in free beer, I am down
[08:46] <nixternal> to bad I don't drink, but in Argentina, I just might have to
[08:46] <beuno> make sure you get all those parking tickets payed   :p
[08:46] <nixternal> haha, ya working on that now
[08:47] <beuno> you probably will end up drinking if you hang around me, yes   {
[08:48] <beuno> aaaaaaaaaanyway, really bed time now, haven't even packed my bag and I'm leaving in a bit over 12 hours
[08:48] <beuno> g'night
[08:48] <nixternal> alrighty, g'nite
[08:48] <nixternal> have fun and catch you when you get there and online
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> eh?
[08:55] <Admiral_Chicago> you visiting argentina without me nixternal ?
[08:55] <nixternal> debconf 2008
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> oh crap when is that?
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> ah august, couldn't go if i wanted
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i apparently don't have your skills with wiki editing, can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1 and please fix the images
[09:27] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: stop what you are doing on that page please
[09:27] <nixternal> don't add anymore
[09:28] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Xubuntu
[09:28] <nixternal> I moved the page to the correct location
[09:29] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: images should be 1024x768 as well
[09:29] <mdke> morning all
[09:29] <nixternal> use pngs, that way there you can do drop shadows to make the thumbnails stand out
[09:29] <nixternal> good morning mdke
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i couldn't get the size to be 1024*768 due to the VM...
[09:29] <nixternal> interesting
[09:30] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: that is fine then...if you want..give me all of the images you have and I will doctor them up until I can get a nice screenshot howto done up
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> That is something I could try again tomorrow. I have a few pns lying around, I just dont want to break my system again
[09:31] <nixternal> hehe
[09:31] <nixternal> I think the screenshot size you have anyways scales to 1024x768 anyways, just a few pixels off
[09:32] <nixternal> looks good btw
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> yea it was close to it. i run a few sizes about 1024x768 anyways.
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks, i have much more locally, just wanted to get some things on there
[09:32] <mdke> jjesse: you've slightly misunderstood the question on the mailing list. He's not necessarily looking for PDF - what he is complaining about is that our docs are not comprehensive enough
[09:32] <nixternal> maybe tomorrow/err today I can find a little time and do a good screenshot wiki page for us
[09:32] <mdke> he's looking for any format that he can download
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> thats something i'd like to read. it would cover VMs too?
[09:33] <nixternal> mdke: any plans for a future meeting to discuss necessary changes?
[09:33] <mdke> nixternal: we could have one, definitely
[09:33] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: I am sure it would cover some VMs
[09:33] <mdke> nixternal: do you want to arrange it?
[09:33] <nixternal> mdke: I can do that...let me add it for the todo when I wake up
[09:34] <mdke> thanks
[09:34] <nixternal> get everyone to toss in a time that works for them
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> sounds good.
[09:36] <nixternal> alrighty, I am going to take it to bed now...see everyone in a few hours
[09:36] <nixternal> g'nite
[09:37] <mdke> night
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> night
[10:02] <BugMaN> hi all
[10:02] <BugMaN> somebody colud confirm this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-doc/+bug/97355
[10:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 97355 in ubuntu-doc "Packaging Guide command error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[06:05] <JanC> hm, this documentation is wrong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToEnableSpamFilteringInEvolution
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> JanC: feel free to correct it
[06:33] <JanC> Admiral_Chicago: I'm working on it, but I'm not sure about the spamassassin part
[06:34] <JanC> I do know that bogofilter works fine though (contrary to what that page says)
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> i haven't used evolution or spamassassin...
[06:35] <JanC> the main problem is that spam filtering doesn't work if more than 1 spam filter plugin is enabled
[06:36] <JanC> I guess both plugins try to go through the same door at the same time and knock their heads together, resulting in a double K.O.   ;-)
[06:39] <JanC> hm, I wonder if bogofilter itself is installed by default...
[06:42] <nixternal> haha, nice analogy
[06:43] <nixternal> I have bogofilter and spamassassin running with KMail
[06:43] <nixternal> and they both don't do a great job, they do an OK job, but not great
[06:43] <JanC> both ?
[06:43] <JanC> bogofilter works fine here
[06:44] <JanC> not perfect, but that's impossible
[06:45] <JanC> and for the mail account that I use for mailing lists, it actually works almost 100% perfect
[06:45] <JanC> at least > 99.9%  :)
[06:46] <nixternal> wow
[06:47] <nixternal> maybe I should remove spamassassin and let bogofilter work on its own
[06:47] <JanC> on other accounts it's less succesful
[06:48] <JanC> might depend on how much ham & spam you get
[06:48] <JanC> e.g. for the mailing list account, I get almost no spam compared to the flood of good messages
[06:48] <nixternal> actually...I don't get much now to my inbox...google seems to be doing a good job now all of a sudden
[06:49] <nixternal> at times to good, and they mark some of my kde and ubuntu mail as spam..especially bug reports
[06:49] <JanC> that's not so good...
[06:50] <nixternal> ya, I have to go in and check my filters there every now and then and make "not spam"
[06:50] <JanC> hm, lets see if I can find out if bogofilter is on the ubuntu install CD
[06:52] <JanC> seems not
[07:04] <JanC> Status van het verzenden van kennisgevingen:
[07:04] <JanC> [en]  nixternal: E-mail correct verzonden
[07:04] <JanC> :)
[07:43] <alefteris> can anyone suggest a video editor for prossesing screencasts?
[07:44] <nixternal> kino is the only one I know...I wonder if popey is online
[07:55] <alefteris> kino work with ogg and mpeg or only dv?
[07:55] <nixternal> truthfully I don't know
[07:55] <nixternal> popey is online, just afk right now
[07:55] <nixternal> he is the screencast master iirc
[07:56] <alefteris> aha :) ok i'll ping him later. thanks
[07:56] <popey> someone was after some screencasting info?
[07:56] <JanC> popey: alefteris
[07:57] <popey> alefteris: hello
[07:57] <alefteris> hi, i was just looking for a video editor that I can use to produse some screencasts
[07:58] <popey> i generally do very little editing, but what I do, I use avidemux for
[07:58] <nixternal> heh
[07:58] <nixternal> there he is now
[07:58] <popey> what did you record the video with?
[07:59] <alefteris> when the video is in ogg format and i need to insert some still images in it
[07:59] <popey> ahhh
[07:59] <alefteris> s/when/well
[07:59] <popey> if you want to edit in avidemux you'd need to convert to some other format
[07:59] <popey> i dont think avidemux will edit oggs (yet)
[08:00] <popey> ffmpeg -i foo.ogg foo.avi
[08:00] <alefteris> ok
[08:01] <alefteris> ok i found and this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/ very helpfull :)
[08:02] <popey> heh, i wrote that
[08:02] <popey> there are some more pages under https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCastTeam/
[08:02] <alefteris> ok chears mate
[08:02] <popey> np
[08:03] <popey> if you can't see me about on irc feel free to email me alan at my irc nickname dot com
[11:14] <bdmurray> nixternal: ping
[11:14] <nixternal> hiya bdmurray
[11:15] <bdmurray> I was looking at bug you were confirming with a Gutsy daily build and was curious about it.
[11:16] <bdmurray> It is bug 118863 regarding desktop icons
[11:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118863 in kdebase "[Gutsy]  extra icons on desktop in kubuntu daily 20070605" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118863
[11:16] <nixternal> bdmurray: we have fixed that or are in the process of fixing that
[11:16] <bdmurray> okay, I won't milestone it then
[11:16] <nixternal> ya, as soon as main unfreezes the fix will be released
[11:17] <bdmurray> okay, I'll move on then
[11:17] <nixternal> hehe
[11:17] <bdmurray> plenty more bugs to look at. ;)
[11:17] <nixternal> it was done to go hand-in-hand with the iso tests
[11:17] <nixternal> documentation purposes really..but yes it has been taken care of
[11:17] <nixternal> go fill my inbox with all of your fixes :D