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asacgnomefreak: yeah i couldn't stand but have to drop a comment12:50
gnomefreak:)12:51
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: i wont beable to make the 12th i found out this morning so im thinking of a new date if you have any day good for you let me know12:52
asaci am fine with everything :)12:53
gnomefreakgpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use  :(12:53
gnomefreakfailed to sign but should still be good for now until i can figure out gpg. uploading trunk overnight12:54
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: every day actually works for me. i don't have a job this summer.12:57
gnomefreakok i will know more sometime tomorrow evening and ill let everyone know01:01
Admiral_Chicagoas long as it is around the same time i'll be there01:01
gnomefreakit will be i think 1800 works for most of us from times in past01:02
gnomefreaki have been busy with doctors and PT the past few weeks but its winding down. and im not sure if i will be here the last week in june01:03
Admiral_Chicagookay. let us know as soon as you find out so we can confim date and time01:05
gnomefreaki will01:06
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satxHello!03:33
satxHas anyone been able to get the Adobe Flashplayer to work on Firefox?03:34
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Admiral_Chicagoasac: do you know what day 2.0.0.4 came out?06:29
Admiral_Chicagoi'm looking at burning edge for a change log and am not finding it06:29
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asacAdmiral_Chicago: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0.0.4/releasenotes/ ??10:01
asacok i am off for another 2 hours ... will start at 10 UTC today ;)10:03
Admiral_Chicagoasac: yea not as much detail as a i hoped though...oh well thanks anywayt10:03
asacAdmiral_Chicago: otherwise you have to look at bonsai.mozilla.org for and read commit messages :)10:04
Admiral_Chicagoi'll try that10:04
asacAdmiral_Chicago: they are good at naming the bugs they are fixing in commit message so you can directly read details by clicking there10:04
asacAdmiral_Chicago: in the branch field use MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH10:04
asace.g. default is HEAD on the bonsai query form10:04
asacbut MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH is the branch where 2.0.0.4 changes end up on10:05
Admiral_Chicagogreat. I'm working on the release page for Xubuntu and want to add more detail about 2.0.0.410:05
asacAdmiral_Chicago: actually i think i can forward you a mail from the security list where there are URLs that make bugzilla pop up all fixed bugs for this release10:05
Admiral_Chicagothat would be awesome10:06
Admiral_Chicagobrb, gettin a call.10:06
asacAdmiral_Chicago: just ping me about this later today ... out for 2 hours now :)10:06
asacAdmiral_Chicago: or send a mail that I will see when I come back (incase you go to sleep now :))10:07
Admiral_Chicagoasac: will do10:10
gnomefreakrepo is down for updating10:58
gnomefreakok can someone test -trunk update please11:02
gnomefreakthere is something wrong with gpg in gutsy11:02
asacgnomefreak: feisty i386?11:07
gnomefreakyes11:07
asacok let me try11:07
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asacgnomefreak: why?11:11
asacFailed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release.gpg  Could not connect to gnomefreak.youmortals.com:80 (208.113.163.32), connection timed out11:11
asacthats on apt-get update11:11
asacah now it worked11:11
gnomefreakit works?11:11
asacok it was not an upgrade ... but a fresh install11:12
asac... currently downloading firefox-trunk11:12
asaclets see11:12
gnomefreakk11:12
gnomefreakonce im able to sign things again i will sign the release file again11:12
asacgnomefreak: is alpha5 out?11:12
asachave you looked if there are sources on the mirror?11:12
gnomefreakyour downloading it11:12
asacalpha5?11:13
gnomefreaki havent looked for sources but you should be grabbing it11:13
asachttp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/granparadiso/11:13
asachmm11:13
gnomefreakasac: yes11:13
asacnot yet official11:13
asaci somehow feel that tbird 2.0.0.4 has been completely forgotten11:13
asacdo they even know they didn't release it?11:14
gnomefreakwhen im back on my feisty system ill check but i swear you to to help>about it says alpha 511:14
asachttp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/11:14
gnomefreakasac: maybe most of it was combined into 2.0.0.0 since it was so late?11:14
asache?11:14
asacbut look at the advisories11:14
asachttp://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2007/mfsa2007-15.html11:15
asacfor instance11:15
asacFixed in: ... Thunderbird 2.0.0.411:15
asactse11:15
gnomefreaktse?11:15
gnomefreakFixed in: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 Thunderbird 2.0.0.411:16
asacyeah ... express doubt, astonishment in german11:16
asachttp://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2007/06/04/thunderbird-15012-security-and-stability-update/11:16
gnomefreakmakes me think it was combined11:16
asacgnomefreak: how combined?11:16
asacsounds not like a sane explanation11:17
asaci will ask tonight on the security list11:17
gnomefreakthunderbird came out what a month before release of 2.0.0.4?11:17
asacah ... yeah11:17
gnomefreakare we sure the updates weretn done at that time and pushed into 2.0.0.011:17
asacbut then the advisory would be wrong and should read Fixed in: Thunderbird 2.0.0.011:17
gnomefreakagreed11:18
asaclet me see .. i can verifiy that11:18
gnomefreakeither way something is wrong, maybe since they just pushed 2.0.0.0 they are taking thier time (as they did getting 2.0 out)11:18
asacDavid Bienvenu   2007-04-23 09:30:22 PDT11:18
asacfixed on 1.8.0 and 1.8.1 branches11:18
asacwhen did tbird 2.0 came out?11:19
asacafter that date?11:19
gnomefreakbefore than iirc11:19
asacbefore april 23?11:19
gnomefreakiirc it was early april11:19
asac(which is my birthday btw:)) :)11:19
gnomefreakhappy birthday11:19
asacno11:19
asac23 apr :)11:19
asaclong ago ;)11:19
gnomefreakmines coming up this month11:19
asacyeah ... its always sad to get older :)11:20
gnomefreakagreed11:20
asac18 April 2007 11:21
asacMozilla Releases Thunderbird 211:21
asacso11:21
asacnot fixed :/11:21
gnomefreakok well do you have upstream contact?11:22
asacsure11:22
asaci have an appointment with redhat developer tonight11:22
gnomefreakwe used to in here but havent seen him11:23
asacto talk about extended 1.5.0.x maintenance11:23
asaci will ask him what they think11:23
gnomefreakim sorry to hear that11:23
asacif he doesn't know i will raise on security list11:23
asacsorry to here what?11:23
asacdid you misread?11:23
gnomefreakasac: you have meeting with RH devel tonight11:24
=== gnomefreak has met a few and i wasnt impressed
asacah ... no he is a pretty nice guy11:24
asacat least he has the same problems as we have with mofo11:24
asacnevertheless, he has commit rights to the tree11:25
asac:)11:25
asachttp://christopher.aillon.org/blog/11:25
gnomefreakto mozilla tree?11:29
gnomefreakdamn if i read that right hes gonna start trying to change things (way things are patched ect..) in mozilla himself11:31
gnomefreakrawhide is pre release fedora core isnt it?11:35
asacno idea ... yes he has commit rights to mozilla tree11:37
=== gnomefreak thinks they need to fix thier installer/grub to play well with other distros than maybe ill play with fedora again
asacgnomefreak: actually i should have a VM install ... or maybe a chroot11:37
asacjust to look at how they package ffox et al11:38
asacand to steal patches ;)(11:38
gnomefreakpatches are good :)11:38
asacyeah ... especially since redhat has an approved set of patches as well11:38
gnomefreaki used to love fedora when i started using it at fedora 111:38
asachmm gnomefreak pssst11:38
asac:)11:39
gnomefreakbut i cant install ubuntu and fedora side by side :(11:39
asachave you tried a chroot?11:39
gnomefreakno11:39
asacfor fedora?11:39
asacmaybe it works11:39
gnomefreakhmmmmm11:39
asachttp://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/chroot.html11:40
gnomefreakmaybe ill play with it today just have to find how to do it but maybe your link will help :)11:40
asacif you find a good way to setup a chroot11:40
asacthen i would be greatful :)11:40
asacactually i think there should be a base tarball of fedora somewhere11:41
asacwhich you could just unpack instead of using debootstrap11:41
asacmaybe wading through fedora ftp server directories will make us find such a tarball11:41
=== gnomefreak not sure how to set up a chroot with tar
gnomefreakbut i still know a few people that play(hard core) in fedora/RH11:42
gnomefreakbrb11:42
asacjust unpack ... (e.g. if its a full base tarball)11:42
gnomefreakIt is highlighted by the elimination of the distinction between  Fedora Core and  Fedora Extras entirely12:07
gnomefreaki dont like that :(12:07
gnomefreakthere is not a doc on chroot for fedora12:08
asacgnomefreak: what is the path where crashes end up?12:18
gnomefreak   /var/crash12:18
asacty12:20
gnomefreakyw12:20
gnomefreakill be back in near future12:24
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asachttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37863501:43
ubotuMozilla bug 378635 in General "Tracking Bug: Bugs to Fix in TB2.0.0.x before offering a major update" [Major,Assigned] 01:43
asacmaybe they wait for those01:43
asacto be fixed01:43
asacsince afaik major version upgrade should be offered with shipment of 2.0.0.401:43
asachttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=553514#290820501:46
asactse01:46
asacsad story01:46
asac2.0.0.4 was tagged when Firefox 2.0.0.4 was tagged. The build team may have cycles to start making a build for us to test next week or the week after. So it'll be a couple weeks at least until we release a 2.0.0.4.01:47
asac(quote from mscott)01:47
asacmaybe we should just drop tbird from gutsy01:49
asacbyebye01:49
asachjmf: bug 106750 is a dupe of gtk_style_realize01:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106750 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_ref]  [@gtk_style_attach] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10675001:50
asacwithout retracing i see that01:50
asacall non-symbolized backtraces looked the same01:50
hjmfasac: thanks I already marked it as such. It happened that I had to go between the two posts I posted in that thread :)02:45
asacah ... ok :)02:45
asac... just wanted to push away the need to retrace on amd64 :)02:45
hjmfasac: yes there are a few bugs taged as mt-needretrace which are amd64 that if you can look to their unsymbolized stacks probably you could mark them as dups02:46
hjmfjust to get rid of them :)02:46
hjmfout again! see you later :)02:47
asacsuire02:47
hjmfsomething funny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/106750/comments/503:51
hjmfI just only hope that this guy hasn't wait the 195 duplicates to complaint03:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 106750 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_ref]  [@gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [High,Needs info] 03:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress] 03:51
hjmflol03:51
asachjmf: hehe03:57
asacactually maybe we should include a message that educate the user about the possibility to unsubscribe from bugs with lots of dupes03:58
hjmfasac: excellent idea! I'm appending that note to my stock answers03:59
asaccool04:00
asacmaybe not on every answer?04:00
asacjust for crashes?04:00
hjmfmaybe just on the dups04:00
asace.g. telling ... if they cannot reproduce you are just a waste of bandwidth :) ... please unsubscribe :)04:00
hjmflol04:00
asachehe ... please don't use that exact wording ;)04:01
Admiral_Chicago!info thunderbird gutsy06:26
ubotuthunderbird: mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 10709 kB, installed size 32116 kB06:26
asac2.0.0.4 is not yet out06:28
asacdon't ask me :/06:29
Admiral_Chicagoi know i get planet mozilla06:30
Admiral_Chicagobut it is 2.0.0.306:30
Admiral_Chicago!info firefox gutsy06:30
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8980 kB, installed size 26200 kB06:30
Admiral_Chicagogreat. make sure x.4 was in gutsy06:31
asacAdmiral_Chicago: no :)06:31
asacthey used 2.0.0.0 for the initial release ... which was the previous one06:31
asacwhich came about the same time as ffox 2.0.0.3 iirc06:31
asacAdmiral_Chicago: its a bit wierd ;)06:35
Admiral_Chicagoyea but our release teams ship at different rates too06:36
Admiral_Chicagoi remember Xubuntu's Edgy came out a few days after everyone else06:36
asacAdmiral_Chicago: yes ... point is they released security advisories06:37
asacbut no release :)06:37
asacand according to mscott in forums it will take a couple of weeks to get the build people build a build for testing :)06:38
asacthis is scary somehow06:38
asacits interesting how huge (measured in compile time) gnash is06:39
asacmost likely because its cpp :)06:39
Admiral_Chicagoi like gnash but i'd like it to be more stable06:43
Admiral_Chicagothe big problem i have is that when i installed teh package it didn't load automatically in firefox06:43
Admiral_Chicagoi.e. if i restart fx, after installing gnash, it should be in my media players06:44
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adrighemHi all07:52
Admiral_Chicagohello07:52
adrighemI'm currently having a problem with my Ubuntu Feisty machine. It's not a problem with moz itself, but I'm hoping you can help me as it has something to do with dns lookups from ff.07:54
Admiral_Chicagonetworking is not my forte but i can try07:55
Admiral_Chicagowhats the problem?07:55
adrighemWhen I open a website (I have wireshark running), I get a "connection reset" error from firefox. When I click on the "try again" button it works like a charm. That's the case with all websites.07:55
adrighem1 try, no go, 2 try yes.07:55
Admiral_Chicagohmm...07:56
Admiral_Chicagoi've never heard of such a case07:56
adrighemI've been breaking my noodle over this one for quite some time now.07:56
Admiral_Chicagoyou're best bet would be to fill out a support ticket on launchpad07:56
adrighemhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24455/07:56
adrighem(Just pasting in the hope that you notice something)07:56
Admiral_Chicagolooking...07:57
adrighemIt's a printout of a wireshark udp-sniffing session of 1 try.07:58
adrighemI'm trying to reach www.anwb.nl in that one.07:58
Admiral_Chicagoadrighem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion07:58
Admiral_Chicagothey can help a lot better than I can.07:58
adrighem*click*07:59
adrighemhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/778908:07
Admiral_Chicagolooking08:10
Admiral_Chicagoadrighem: youll have to excuse me...08:10
adrighemnp, thanks for your help so far, Admiral_Chicago.08:11
Admiral_Chicagoadrighem: i just finished some major work so I need a break...08:11
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adrighemHave fun08:11
asacoff for today09:20
hjmfnight!11:18
asacBug 50254 ... what a bad comment "mozilla sucks" :/ ... just ignore or reject that ... and feed the troll?12:11
ubotuLaunchpad bug 50254 in firefox "Ctrl-Backspace should stop_at_punctuation" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5025412:11
asaci guess just ignore12:12
JanCedit it  :)12:27

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