[12:50] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah i couldn't stand but have to drop a comment
[12:51] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Admiral_Chicago: i wont beable to make the 12th i found out this morning so im thinking of a new date if you have any day good for you let me know
[12:53] <asac> i am fine with everything :)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> gpg: problem with the agent - disabling agent use  :(
[12:54] <gnomefreak> failed to sign but should still be good for now until i can figure out gpg. uploading trunk overnight
[12:57] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: every day actually works for me. i don't have a job this summer.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ok i will know more sometime tomorrow evening and ill let everyone know
[01:01] <Admiral_Chicago> as long as it is around the same time i'll be there
[01:02] <gnomefreak> it will be i think 1800 works for most of us from times in past
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i have been busy with doctors and PT the past few weeks but its winding down. and im not sure if i will be here the last week in june
[01:05] <Admiral_Chicago> okay. let us know as soon as you find out so we can confim date and time
[01:06] <gnomefreak> i will
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[03:33] <satx> Hello!
[03:34] <satx> Has anyone been able to get the Adobe Flashplayer to work on Firefox?
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[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: do you know what day 2.0.0.4 came out?
[06:29] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm looking at burning edge for a change log and am not finding it
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[10:01] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0.0.4/releasenotes/ ??
[10:03] <asac> ok i am off for another 2 hours ... will start at 10 UTC today ;)
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: yea not as much detail as a i hoped though...oh well thanks anywayt
[10:04] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: otherwise you have to look at bonsai.mozilla.org for and read commit messages :)
[10:04] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll try that
[10:04] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: they are good at naming the bugs they are fixing in commit message so you can directly read details by clicking there
[10:04] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: in the branch field use MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH
[10:04] <asac> e.g. default is HEAD on the bonsai query form
[10:05] <asac> but MOZILLA_1_8_BRANCH is the branch where 2.0.0.4 changes end up on
[10:05] <Admiral_Chicago> great. I'm working on the release page for Xubuntu and want to add more detail about 2.0.0.4
[10:05] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: actually i think i can forward you a mail from the security list where there are URLs that make bugzilla pop up all fixed bugs for this release
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> that would be awesome
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> brb, gettin a call.
[10:06] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: just ping me about this later today ... out for 2 hours now :)
[10:07] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: or send a mail that I will see when I come back (incase you go to sleep now :))
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: will do
[10:58] <gnomefreak> repo is down for updating
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ok can someone test -trunk update please
[11:02] <gnomefreak> there is something wrong with gpg in gutsy
[11:07] <asac> gnomefreak: feisty i386?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:07] <asac> ok let me try
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[11:11] <asac> gnomefreak: why?
[11:11] <asac> Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release.gpg  Could not connect to gnomefreak.youmortals.com:80 (208.113.163.32), connection timed out
[11:11] <asac> thats on apt-get update
[11:11] <asac> ah now it worked
[11:11] <gnomefreak> it works?
[11:12] <asac> ok it was not an upgrade ... but a fresh install
[11:12] <asac> ... currently downloading firefox-trunk
[11:12] <asac> lets see
[11:12] <gnomefreak> k
[11:12] <gnomefreak> once im able to sign things again i will sign the release file again
[11:12] <asac> gnomefreak: is alpha5 out?
[11:12] <asac> have you looked if there are sources on the mirror?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> your downloading it
[11:13] <asac> alpha5?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> i havent looked for sources but you should be grabbing it
[11:13] <asac> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/granparadiso/
[11:13] <asac> hmm
[11:13] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[11:13] <asac> not yet official
[11:13] <asac> i somehow feel that tbird 2.0.0.4 has been completely forgotten
[11:14] <asac> do they even know they didn't release it?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> when im back on my feisty system ill check but i swear you to to help>about it says alpha 5
[11:14] <asac> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/
[11:14] <gnomefreak> asac: maybe most of it was combined into 2.0.0.0 since it was so late?
[11:14] <asac> he?
[11:14] <asac> but look at the advisories
[11:15] <asac> http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2007/mfsa2007-15.html
[11:15] <asac> for instance
[11:15] <asac> Fixed in: ... Thunderbird 2.0.0.4
[11:15] <asac> tse
[11:15] <gnomefreak> tse?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Fixed in: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 Thunderbird 2.0.0.4
[11:16] <asac> yeah ... express doubt, astonishment in german
[11:16] <asac> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2007/06/04/thunderbird-15012-security-and-stability-update/
[11:16] <gnomefreak> makes me think it was combined
[11:16] <asac> gnomefreak: how combined?
[11:17] <asac> sounds not like a sane explanation
[11:17] <asac> i will ask tonight on the security list
[11:17] <gnomefreak> thunderbird came out what a month before release of 2.0.0.4?
[11:17] <asac> ah ... yeah
[11:17] <gnomefreak> are we sure the updates weretn done at that time and pushed into 2.0.0.0
[11:17] <asac> but then the advisory would be wrong and should read Fixed in: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0
[11:18] <gnomefreak> agreed
[11:18] <asac> let me see .. i can verifiy that
[11:18] <gnomefreak> either way something is wrong, maybe since they just pushed 2.0.0.0 they are taking thier time (as they did getting 2.0 out)
[11:18] <asac> David Bienvenu   2007-04-23 09:30:22 PDT
[11:18] <asac> fixed on 1.8.0 and 1.8.1 branches
[11:19] <asac> when did tbird 2.0 came out?
[11:19] <asac> after that date?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> before than iirc
[11:19] <asac> before april 23?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> iirc it was early april
[11:19] <asac> (which is my birthday btw:)) :)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> happy birthday
[11:19] <asac> no
[11:19] <asac> 23 apr :)
[11:19] <asac> long ago ;)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> mines coming up this month
[11:20] <asac> yeah ... its always sad to get older :)
[11:20] <gnomefreak> agreed
[11:21] <asac> 18 April 2007 	
[11:21] <asac> Mozilla Releases Thunderbird 2
[11:21] <asac> so
[11:21] <asac> not fixed :/
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ok well do you have upstream contact?
[11:22] <asac> sure
[11:22] <asac> i have an appointment with redhat developer tonight
[11:23] <gnomefreak> we used to in here but havent seen him
[11:23] <asac> to talk about extended 1.5.0.x maintenance
[11:23] <asac> i will ask him what they think
[11:23] <gnomefreak> im sorry to hear that
[11:23] <asac> if he doesn't know i will raise on security list
[11:23] <asac> sorry to here what?
[11:23] <asac> did you misread?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> asac: you have meeting with RH devel tonight
=== gnomefreak has met a few and i wasnt impressed
[11:24] <asac> ah ... no he is a pretty nice guy
[11:24] <asac> at least he has the same problems as we have with mofo
[11:25] <asac> nevertheless, he has commit rights to the tree
[11:25] <asac> :)
[11:25] <asac> http://christopher.aillon.org/blog/
[11:29] <gnomefreak> to mozilla tree?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> damn if i read that right hes gonna start trying to change things (way things are patched ect..) in mozilla himself
[11:35] <gnomefreak> rawhide is pre release fedora core isnt it?
[11:37] <asac> no idea ... yes he has commit rights to mozilla tree
=== gnomefreak thinks they need to fix thier installer/grub to play well with other distros than maybe ill play with fedora again
[11:37] <asac> gnomefreak: actually i should have a VM install ... or maybe a chroot
[11:38] <asac> just to look at how they package ffox et al
[11:38] <asac> and to steal patches ;)(
[11:38] <gnomefreak> patches are good :)
[11:38] <asac> yeah ... especially since redhat has an approved set of patches as well
[11:38] <gnomefreak> i used to love fedora when i started using it at fedora 1
[11:38] <asac> hmm gnomefreak pssst
[11:39] <asac> :)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> but i cant install ubuntu and fedora side by side :(
[11:39] <asac> have you tried a chroot?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> no
[11:39] <asac> for fedora?
[11:39] <asac> maybe it works
[11:39] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[11:40] <asac> http://www.pixelbeat.org/docs/chroot.html
[11:40] <gnomefreak> maybe ill play with it today just have to find how to do it but maybe your link will help :)
[11:40] <asac> if you find a good way to setup a chroot
[11:40] <asac> then i would be greatful :)
[11:41] <asac> actually i think there should be a base tarball of fedora somewhere
[11:41] <asac> which you could just unpack instead of using debootstrap
[11:41] <asac> maybe wading through fedora ftp server directories will make us find such a tarball
=== gnomefreak not sure how to set up a chroot with tar
[11:42] <gnomefreak> but i still know a few people that play(hard core) in fedora/RH
[11:42] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:42] <asac> just unpack ... (e.g. if its a full base tarball)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> It is highlighted by the elimination of the distinction between  Fedora Core and  Fedora Extras entirely
[12:07] <gnomefreak> i dont like that :(
[12:08] <gnomefreak> there is not a doc on chroot for fedora
[12:18] <asac> gnomefreak: what is the path where crashes end up?
[12:18] <gnomefreak>    /var/crash
[12:20] <asac> ty
[12:20] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ill be back in near future
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[01:43] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378635
[01:43] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 378635 in General "Tracking Bug: Bugs to Fix in TB2.0.0.x before offering a major update" [Major,Assigned] 
[01:43] <asac> maybe they wait for those
[01:43] <asac> to be fixed
[01:43] <asac> since afaik major version upgrade should be offered with shipment of 2.0.0.4
[01:46] <asac> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=553514#2908205
[01:46] <asac> tse
[01:46] <asac> sad story
[01:47] <asac> 2.0.0.4 was tagged when Firefox 2.0.0.4 was tagged. The build team may have cycles to start making a build for us to test next week or the week after. So it'll be a couple weeks at least until we release a 2.0.0.4.
[01:47] <asac> (quote from mscott)
[01:49] <asac> maybe we should just drop tbird from gutsy
[01:49] <asac> byebye
[01:50] <asac> hjmf: bug 106750 is a dupe of gtk_style_realize
[01:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106750 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_ref]  [@gtk_style_attach] " [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106750
[01:50] <asac> without retracing i see that
[01:50] <asac> all non-symbolized backtraces looked the same
[02:45] <hjmf> asac: thanks I already marked it as such. It happened that I had to go between the two posts I posted in that thread :)
[02:45] <asac> ah ... ok :)
[02:45] <asac> ... just wanted to push away the need to retrace on amd64 :)
[02:46] <hjmf> asac: yes there are a few bugs taged as mt-needretrace which are amd64 that if you can look to their unsymbolized stacks probably you could mark them as dups
[02:46] <hjmf> just to get rid of them :)
[02:47] <hjmf> out again! see you later :)
[02:47] <asac> suire
[03:51] <hjmf> something funny: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/106750/comments/5
[03:51] <hjmf> I just only hope that this guy hasn't wait the 195 duplicates to complaint
[03:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106750 in firefox "[edgy]  firefox crashed x86_64 [@gtk_style_ref]  [@gtk_style_attach]  (dup-of: 72018)" [High,Needs info] 
[03:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]  [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress] 
[03:51] <hjmf> lol
[03:57] <asac> hjmf: hehe
[03:58] <asac> actually maybe we should include a message that educate the user about the possibility to unsubscribe from bugs with lots of dupes
[03:59] <hjmf> asac: excellent idea! I'm appending that note to my stock answers
[04:00] <asac> cool
[04:00] <asac> maybe not on every answer?
[04:00] <asac> just for crashes?
[04:00] <hjmf> maybe just on the dups
[04:00] <asac> e.g. telling ... if they cannot reproduce you are just a waste of bandwidth :) ... please unsubscribe :)
[04:00] <hjmf> lol
[04:01] <asac> hehe ... please don't use that exact wording ;)
[06:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !info thunderbird gutsy
[06:26] <ubotu> thunderbird: mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.0-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 10709 kB, installed size 32116 kB
[06:28] <asac> 2.0.0.4 is not yet out
[06:29] <asac> don't ask me :/
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i know i get planet mozilla
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> but it is 2.0.0.3
[06:30] <Admiral_Chicago> !info firefox gutsy
[06:30] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8980 kB, installed size 26200 kB
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> great. make sure x.4 was in gutsy
[06:31] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: no :)
[06:31] <asac> they used 2.0.0.0 for the initial release ... which was the previous one
[06:31] <asac> which came about the same time as ffox 2.0.0.3 iirc
[06:35] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: its a bit wierd ;)
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> yea but our release teams ship at different rates too
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i remember Xubuntu's Edgy came out a few days after everyone else
[06:37] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: yes ... point is they released security advisories
[06:37] <asac> but no release :)
[06:38] <asac> and according to mscott in forums it will take a couple of weeks to get the build people build a build for testing :)
[06:38] <asac> this is scary somehow
[06:39] <asac> its interesting how huge (measured in compile time) gnash is
[06:39] <asac> most likely because its cpp :)
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> i like gnash but i'd like it to be more stable
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> the big problem i have is that when i installed teh package it didn't load automatically in firefox
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> i.e. if i restart fx, after installing gnash, it should be in my media players
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[07:52] <adrighem> Hi all
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[07:54] <adrighem> I'm currently having a problem with my Ubuntu Feisty machine. It's not a problem with moz itself, but I'm hoping you can help me as it has something to do with dns lookups from ff.
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> networking is not my forte but i can try
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> whats the problem?
[07:55] <adrighem> When I open a website (I have wireshark running), I get a "connection reset" error from firefox. When I click on the "try again" button it works like a charm. That's the case with all websites.
[07:55] <adrighem> 1 try, no go, 2 try yes.
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm...
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> i've never heard of such a case
[07:56] <adrighem> I've been breaking my noodle over this one for quite some time now.
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> you're best bet would be to fill out a support ticket on launchpad
[07:56] <adrighem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24455/
[07:56] <adrighem> (Just pasting in the hope that you notice something)
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> looking...
[07:58] <adrighem> It's a printout of a wireshark udp-sniffing session of 1 try.
[07:58] <adrighem> I'm trying to reach www.anwb.nl in that one.
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> adrighem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+addquestion
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> they can help a lot better than I can.
[07:59] <adrighem> *click*
[08:07] <adrighem> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7789
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> looking
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> adrighem: youll have to excuse me...
[08:11] <adrighem> np, thanks for your help so far, Admiral_Chicago.
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> adrighem: i just finished some major work so I need a break...
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[08:11] <adrighem> Have fun
[09:20] <asac> off for today
[11:18] <hjmf> night!
[12:11] <asac> Bug 50254 ... what a bad comment "mozilla sucks" :/ ... just ignore or reject that ... and feed the troll?
[12:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 50254 in firefox "Ctrl-Backspace should stop_at_punctuation" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50254
[12:12] <asac> i guess just ignore
[12:27] <JanC> edit it  :)