=== lucky_lucas [n=lucas@137.78.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44471.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is playing with konqui's rc files [01:30] BREAK UM! :) [01:31] aye :P === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] Riddell: quite sick atm, best to send me an email === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@04-088.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180067206.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:01] hm === apacheLAGger forgot to sign his mail :S === apachelogger [n=me@N852P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N852P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N852P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:03] quiet night eh? [04:04] i see that speedcrunch is going to be moving to the kubuntu release schedule === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@02-081.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] I heard that a qt port of ltsp manager was needed. Where can I get info about it? [04:06] i was at a borders bookstore tonight and it had one of the best linux sections i have ever seen [04:06] yeah..my freind says he just goes there to read linux/programming books === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A7280E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] jjesse: when are you heading home? [05:52] saturday morning [05:52] ahh, god [05:52] err, good [05:52] yeah why? [05:52] tomorrow is supposed to be very nasty here [05:52] oh [05:52] they are already preparing our area for tornadic activity [05:52] same in omaha [05:52] which means, it won't even rain [05:52] heh [05:52] ya, I can see the radar and it doesn't look great there either [05:53] 91f tomorrow, I am not looking forward to that [05:53] yeah it was like 30mph winds here [05:53] ya, we are supposed to have sustained winds of 30+ mph, with gusts up to 70 [05:53] yay windy city for real === stdin [i=stdin@82-37-240-159.cable.ubr07.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F71439.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-038-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fabo [i=Arme-X@dra38-2-82-233-106-22.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee pokes for life === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:45] hiya Nightrose! [08:45] morning Hobbsee [08:45] Nightrose: i've got a question for you [08:46] yea? [08:46] Nightrose: interested in doing any cd testing? [08:46] why not [08:46] :) [08:46] which arch are you on? [08:46] 32 bit [08:47] even better === Hobbsee looks for the info [08:48] Hobbsee: who's life your poking? [08:48] +e [08:48] Nightrose: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2007-June/023789.html [08:48] Tm_T: YOURS! [08:48] :) [08:48] you can't [08:49] thx Hobbsee - will have a look asap [08:49] well you can, if you have it, because it's not here [08:49] Nightrose: if you could test the desktop i386 cd, in whichever configurations that you want, preferably that havent been tested yet, that'd be great [08:49] Nightrose: check cd, etc, wont mess up your hard drive anyway [08:49] Tm_T: do you want to test a cd? [08:49] k Hobbsee === Hobbsee has already gotten in trouble with bandwidth this month, unfortunately [08:50] Nightrose: but obviously, backups are good :) [08:50] hehe shure [08:50] Hobbsee: if you like me to download it with this ppp [08:50] Tm_T: *grin* [08:50] Tm_T: point === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato will be trying to connect to the internet this weekend, through bluetooth dialup :D [08:53] Jucato: that's what I do when I'm not in my pc, but in pc usb is more reliable [08:54] I have phone with usb <3 [08:54] not even w/ GRPS... I don't know how to set up that one :) [08:54] I really mean "dial up" [08:54] :/ === Jucato will try tomorrow actually [08:55] Jucato: the planned release is today, iirc [08:55] Jucato: bluetooth can be tricky, but with usb, this phone just appears as /dev/ttyACM0 and all I do is open kppp and make a call [08:56] Hobbsee: you might be talking to Nightrose :) [08:56] Tm_T: I was able to dial up once using bluetooth. but I wasn't able to connect coz I ran out of credits :) [08:56] haha [08:56] perfect, isn't it [08:57] you can imagine myfeelings when my pda(actually WM5) bugs and when I finally get connection, I run out of battery [08:58] :) [08:58] finally get connection = had 5 resets [08:58] the only reason I'm going suicidal over this is that my laptop's wireless is still broken, and I'm going to a resort this weekend... [08:59] yup, it's still Windows, even if it's Mobile [09:00] heheh :) [09:00] luckily my only Windows phone is now RIP :) [09:00] this one's a Symbian [09:00] get the new openmoko :P [09:00] hehe! I wish! [09:01] that would definitely be a dream come true :) [09:01] ack [09:01] but since I just got a new monitor, I don't think I can get one within the next year or so :) [09:02] yes it's always this money thing :/ [09:02] but this thing I have to buy [09:03] Nightrose: okay, the testing cds are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20070606.1/ [09:03] it doesnt appear to be in the annoucement [09:03] thx Hobbsee [09:07] ok, closing this one again, running out of bandwidth, see you later kids -> [09:08] bye Tm_T! === Tonio_ [n=tonio@194.187.225.87] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p54966D49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais_ [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.238] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg is now known as eeanv2 === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db444c3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N870P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E2CD.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.193.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-151-10.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] Does anyone know how it comes that I've seemingly lost all my mimetypes? [01:00] Most applications are broken due to this (feisty + 3.5.7 packages) === sebas is puzzled [01:03] can't say I've heard of that happening [01:06] Removing ~/.kde/share/apps/mimelink did apparently help. [01:06] Must be some random file corruption. [01:07] Hmpf. No, there it is again. [01:07] It works shortly after logging in, then the problem turns up. === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] I don't have a ~/.kde/share/apps/mimelink === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@03-024.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic_ [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:46] manchicken_: where is system settings in svn? [01:47] ah, /me spots branches/work/kde4/systemsettings_kde4 === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db444c3.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442a8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] evening all === nosrednaekim tries to lurk undetected, but still peeps hello [02:34] ahoy Hobbsee [02:34] :0 [02:34] * :) [02:34] nosrednaekim: no lurking! === Hobbsee goes and attacks the lurkers cupboard with the broom [02:34] ouch! [02:34] we have power. and internet :D === Jucato runs away === Hobbsee uses the lassoo on Jucato [02:35] nooooo! === nosrednaekim thinks Hobbseecan't even smile right while hitting me [02:35] nosrednaekim: you never know :P [02:36] anyway... congradulations on your test release. [02:36] we released? [02:36] it's been released? [02:36] hiya Riddell [02:36] tribe 1 I thought. [02:36] morning :) [02:36] nosrednaekim: where does it say that? [02:37] Riddell: I read a screenshot review. [02:37] where? [02:37] just a second. === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] oh... ahha... never mind. I read it wrong. [02:38] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=741&num=1 === Hobbsee cant release, anyway === nosrednaekim sympatizes with Hobbsee === Hobbsee can just kill stupid customers [02:39] oh, wait.... === n8k99_ [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger is wondering [02:41] maybe we should provide a special corporate-default-settings? [02:41] ? [02:41] well [02:41] Riddell: System settings in svn compiles but doesn't run. [02:41] IMO the current appeal of kubuntu is too shiny [02:41] good for end users, but not for corporate desktops [02:41] It's got some weird dbus error. [02:42] nosrednaekim: ah, that's fine, it talks about tomorrow [02:42] nosrednaekim: although it should be out in an hour or so [02:42] I'm currently doing a migration project for a local NGO and noticed, that it's somewhat strange looking to have a default kubuntu style [02:42] apachelogger: Yeah, because XP didn't look like Disney crapped all over the desktop? [02:42] manchicken_: not as much as feisty does [02:43] Feisty looks magnitudes better than XP. [02:43] not in a corporate context :P [02:43] well, maybe it's just one of my strange ideas [02:43] apachelogger: I don't know what corporate context you're speaking of, but it's just fine around here :) [02:44] apachelogger: tell it to kwwii (when he's around), maybe he'll make it less shiny next release [02:44] Wow, I get to wake up to a new koffice. [02:44] manchicken_: in backports? [02:44] Yea. [02:44] manchicken_: groovy, can you test and let me know that it works? [02:44] Sure. [02:45] I use koffice tout les temps. === nosrednaekim , the typical corporate customer is frightened by anything other than "redmond" kde theme [02:45] Riddell: well, for end customers it's just as shiny as it should be, but for corporate.... === apachelogger is wondring whether crystalsvg is support that feeling [02:45] didn't use that iconset since oxygen is public [02:45] nosrednaekim: I disagree. I think windows IT folks are. [02:46] nosrednaekim: I think the average corporate user would have no problem figuring things out. [02:46] Riddell: noo!!! shiny is good. [02:46] then again, if they really care, surely someone's going to make a whole list of changes that they want [02:46] I being sarcastic [02:46] *was [02:46] Ah. === Hobbsee doubts vista stuff is being toned down either [02:54] No, Vista is not. [02:56] but then again, I don't see much corporate uptake of Vista. Could there be a connection? [02:58] I doubt it, nobody used XP in its first year of release either === Hobbsee attempts to find a nice looking font [03:00] Yeah. And for all the same reasons. [03:00] courier is nice. [03:00] ;) === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@p54975d52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] KOffice seriously needs more templates. [03:05] koffice seriously needs to do XY graphing. [03:05] Needs pivot charts. === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A7280E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rouzic_ est ausente: Ausente por ahora. === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ is now known as mhb === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F708E6.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] kubuntu corporate desktop approach #1: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp044.png [03:59] tango and baghria? dear gods [04:00] eek! at the icons [04:00] no that's Domino [04:00] really? yuck [04:01] it's lots better than Baghira, and not really intended to look like os x [04:01] but the icons!! :/ [04:01] svg icons, I presume [04:01] tango icons [04:02] the format is not really an issue [04:03] Riddell: no, it's just a comment on a bug with SVG rendering (I guess it's a bug). Look at the lower edges of the Trash icon, for example. [04:03] those black circles shouldn't be there [04:03] that's a shadow surely [04:03] yeah. it's part of the icon :) [04:03] look at the Desktop icon [04:04] Jucato: badly rendered, too [04:04] tango just isn't meant for KDE :) [04:04] the shadow should not be that black on the edges [04:06] well [04:06] the problem is, there is no decent icon theme for KDE [04:06] you can check that it's rendered badly by looking at Tango/32x32/places/emptytrash.png [04:07] Jucato: ^^ === Jucato thinks Nuvola is very decent === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:11] Jucato: too many colors [04:11] apachelogger: I think marketing KDE for corporations isn't about icon theme/widget style [04:11] apachelogger: less flashy than crystal svg, though, just imho :) [04:11] apachelogger: it could be a minor plus to have a "mature" look, but only a minor one [04:11] Jucato: yeah [04:11] well, we can all just wait for Oxygen :) [04:12] oxygen only looks perfect with oxygen desktop [04:12] (which follows the naming convention initiated by the Tango project anyway) [04:12] hm.. oxygen looks quite nice on plastik, which is what KDE 4 is currently using [04:12] mhb: well, it's not that minor [04:12] (oxygen style isn't merged yet) [04:13] mhb: when someone is evaluating desktops the first thing he gets to see is the appeal most probably [04:13] so the appeal has to be mature to get him a good first impression [04:13] mhb: never underestimate the power of first impressions :) [04:14] the first thing they're going to see is a presentation [04:14] a web presentation, a live presentation... [04:14] every user and in the and also an admin is a user wants to see a screenshot [04:15] matter of fact, if you don't got screenshots on your mainpage it's not good for the first impression thing [04:16] http://www.novell.com/linux/features.html I don't see "sober look" in there. === mhb shuts up [04:16] g'mornin' [04:16] mhb: that's technical [04:17] in general there are two impressions the technical and the appeal [04:17] you can have a technical advanced an powerful software [04:17] but if it looks like shit [04:17] almost no one will use it [04:17] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-June/000301.html [04:17] no matter how good the technical appeal is [04:17] yummy [04:18] tribe1++ === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! http://merges.ubuntu.com | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Tribe 1 released! [04:18] moin nixternal! === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54975D52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180064098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F735C3.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:29] Riddell: ping [04:30] hola [04:30] Riddell: hey boss, already had a look at the konqueror debdiff? === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E2CD.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-015.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:35] apachelogger: not yet, it's in with my 200 other unread e-mails [04:35] ok ^_^ === apachelogger thinks Riddell gets far too many mails [04:36] wo0t, Tribe 1 is out the door! Good job everyone! [04:37] yeah, good job! [04:37] hehe === apachelogger opens the wine bottle [04:37] Riddell: /dev/null. it's a fixall === Hobbsee gets a crazy amount of email - but not that crazy [04:37] everyone take a glass! === Hobbsee avoids the wine [04:37] cheers guys and gals :) [04:37] Hobbsee: omg, why? [04:37] apachelogger: dont like the taste. [04:37] oh === apachelogger is looking for something different [04:38] apachelogger: i had a bit of the champaigne at UDS on the last night. *shudder* [04:38] hehe [04:38] Hobbsee: how about some coffee? [04:38] meh. coke's good === apachelogger takes the coke from #amarok.dev and hands it to Hobbsee [04:39] cheers! :) [04:39] nixternal: we definately have the best Tribe1 page, thanks to you === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F735C3.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:40] woohoo...I try my best to make us look good :) [04:40] Hobbsee: if you think Coke is good, you need to try Dr. Pepper :) that is my all time favorite [04:40] now I am a green tea junky [04:41] ewww [04:42] yay for tea! === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] Jucato: Lipton has these diet green teas that are citrus or berry flavored...man they are good [04:43] and expensive! (over here) [04:43] I go for the asian ones :P [04:43] I go to the asian markets here and get some of their genseng tea...good stuff and it gives me a buzz === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F14F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@02-019.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180064098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose2 [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose2 [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose2 is now known as Nightrose === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@137.78.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy_ [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:06] doc job for someone: this needs to be made more kubuntu compliant [06:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [06:06] for http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-143.php === paran [n=paran@cust.fiber-lan.snet.lk.212.214.112.112.visit.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger has no clue about that sort of stuff :S [06:15] Riddell: creating /Kubuntu would be meaningful, wouldn't it? [06:16] I don't think there's a need for it for that page [06:16] AddRepositories or whatever it is has a /Kubuntu that needs linked to [06:16] Riddell: isn't that supposed to be koffice-163? === apachelogger puts a knote on the desktop i case no one did it when he's back from dying due to heat [06:18] Jucato: oh aye :) fixed [06:18] :) [06:23] is there an eclipse plugin to interface with launchpad ? [06:23] I know there is one for bzr but, I don't konw if it exists for launchpad ? === apachelogger notes that the how to add a repo is not compatible with feisty [06:41] weh === apachelogger starts crying [06:44] apachelogger: which part? [06:45] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu [06:45] the whole page [06:45] I'm right now updating it [06:45] ah yes === apachelogger will never start doc work again.... always ends up in editing 3 different pages [06:45] wasn't updated with the new Software Properties app === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-162-252.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:46] apachelogger: um wait. changing or just adding? [06:47] I don't think those original instructions should be removed completely just yet [06:47] adding [06:47] === Feisty Fawn (7.04) and newer === [06:47] ah kool :) [06:47] === Edgy Eft (6.10) and older === [06:47] good goody :) [06:48] Riddell: is anybody following displayconfig-gtk developments and updating guidance version? === Lure hopes for nice improvements with new xorg server and xrandr 1.2 [06:48] <_Sime_> Lure: We're in the process of merging and then sharing the backend code. [06:49] _Sime_: great - so I expect we will change kde frontend too? [06:50] <_Sime_> Lure: I don't expect any radical changes to the frontend. It might work a bit better and have less bugs though. [06:51] hm [06:51] omg === apachelogger needs to get feisty default setup [06:51] for screenshots? [06:51] yep [06:53] polyester, default colors (kuseven I think), crystal windeco, sans serif fonts, crystalsvg icons, hm... [06:54] aaaaa crystal [06:54] omg [06:54] no [06:54] thoose icons [06:54] muahaha, wouldn't call them icons at all [06:54] ah [06:54] I'm soo stupid :| [06:56] :) === apachelogger xephyrs to his kubuntu default setup [06:57] ah yes [06:57] i wonder why my kdm is stuffed [06:58] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5414 <- revu'erz wanted :) [07:00] aye, revu'erz are always wanted ... just open konqui -> go to revu.tauware.de -> press ctrl-f -> search for 'sitter' -> if you revued everything once within 24 ours you can win an amarok shirt :D === Jucato waves to nixternal :) === nixternal waves back === n8k99_ doesn't wave at all [07:00] nixternal: linspire is based on Ubuntu now, right? === nixternal already has an amarok t-shirt === Jucato drowns n8k99 in waves [07:01] Jucato: kubuntu :) [07:01] nixternal: blue wolf logo? O.o [07:01] er.. on kubuntu? they use our KDE packages too? [07:01] what is that? [07:01] blue wolf = amarok logo [07:01] oh, I have no idea..they are about to sell out to microsoft soon anyways I am sure [07:01] hehe that's why I asked :) [07:01] no logo, just the cool amarok letters === Jucato wonders what Canonical/Ubuntu will do if ever that happens [07:02] got it from spreadshirt or revellinux [07:02] they better say no [07:02] I want aseigo's KDE shirt!!! [07:02] ya, me too [07:02] er.. I meant something like it. [07:02] I have come close but not dead on [07:02] hehe [07:03] and a lot of the online shirts places don't make shirts for real men! [07:03] ;p === n8k99 sees Jucato attacking aseigo like a frantic teenager [07:03] well, drop the "teenager" part and your correct :) [07:04] http://image.weather.com/images/maps/tropical/map_spectrop08_ltst_6nh_enus_600x405.jpg [07:04] well that can't be good [07:07] is universe active by default? [07:08] all of the 4 starting feisty [07:08] apachelogger: i believe so [07:11] manchicken__: how was koffice? [07:12] Jucato: if canonical/ubuntu was being asked to side with microsoft? [07:12] apachelogger: yes [07:12] Hobbsee: no.what would canonical/ubuntu do if linspire sells out to ms [07:12] Jucato: ?? even mutliverse? [07:12] apachelogger: yes [07:13] Riddell: is that true? [07:13] multiverse by default spec for feisty [07:13] Oo [07:13] Jucato: why would it matter? linspire doesnt do much for ubuntu anyway. [07:13] apachelogger: universe and multiverse are enabled by default [07:13] omfg [07:13] why did nobody tell me :P [07:13] apachelogger: welcome back to Kubuntu :) === apachelogger will never do a 6 month vacation from FLOSS [07:14] hehe === Jucato leaves it at that :) === ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@port0002-abm-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:33] someone plz revu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu?action=diff&rev2=21 [07:37] apachelogger: looks lovely [07:38] hooray :) [07:38] hi Jucato [07:38] hi Daskreech! any news from Mez? [07:39] Jucato: Nope I dreamnt that he logged in last night, that was strange. He kept trying to figure out why his name wasn't capitalized === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-151-10.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:40] apachelogger: "This page describes how to manage software repositories in Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) and Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)." but starts of with Feisty Fawn? [07:41] hm [07:41] gotta fix that ^_^ [07:41] anyway [07:41] Riddell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports?action=diff&rev2=33&rev1=32 [07:42] oh he left... === apachelogger [n=me@N859P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] he's back [07:45] bah [07:45] apachelogger: I'm not sure if there's any need for the "For Feisty Fawn 7.04:" bits [07:45] austria [07:45] horrible place for a 24/7 online nerd [07:45] Jucato: better now? [07:46] Riddell: what shall I write instead? [07:46] Current release [07:47] apachelogger: well I'm not sure what it's for, if you use the graphical tools you just tick the box, no need for those details [07:47] so I'd just remove it [07:48] manchicken__: got system settings running. it's an empty shell for now but it runs [07:50] uhm === apachelogger needs a cigarette now [07:52] Riddell: well, there is no harm in leaving it, is there? [07:52] so long as it doesn't confuse people [07:53] we should just produce videos :) [07:53] lot higher usability [07:53] hehe [07:59] holy smokes [08:00] Riddell: explain how you made sense of the traceback for system settings? libc6 was the only thing it spit out for me [08:03] nixternal: I just compiled with -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull [08:06] ahh [08:07] that is what I didn't do when I was looking at it :) === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:21] screenies of tribe "1" are up [08:23] where? [08:24] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=741&num=1 === rouzic_ausente ha vuelto. [08:32] their xubuntu ones are broken [08:37] apachelogger: re filelight> will just update Maintainer to ubuntu address and upload [08:41] Lure: huh? [08:41] apachelogger: for ubuntuX version, you need to update Maintainer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField [08:42] *modifies* [08:44] apachelogger: no need, have done it locally [08:44] ok [08:44] apachelogger: uploaded [08:45] thx [08:46] Where should I ask about groups within Ubuntu? [08:48] apachelogger: I am still missing khalki lib [08:48] Lure: got stuck in queue [08:49] apachelogger: in which queue? [08:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue?queue_state=0&queue_text=khalkhi [08:50] apachelogger: ok, will try to get source from there and test all three packages [08:50] uhm [08:50] Lure: better wait [08:51] didn't had a look at the others for ages :D [08:51] just gotta check them [08:51] apachelogger: true that - now that tribe1 is out, archive-admins will have some time for NEW handling [08:52] hm [08:52] Lure: ok, actually cards and applet should work just fine [08:52] at least I didn't change anything since my last test build === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl_ [n=michael@e180064098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@137.78.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db440d1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:06] i have a question about building kde4 [09:06] i've just compiled kdebase kdepim [09:06] but in my KDEDIR/bin there not much programs [09:07] and no startkde script [09:08] meven: what does 'echo $KDEDIR' say? === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-32-73.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db440d1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E2CD.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger will search a bed [09:45] nini [09:45] night [09:53] anybody know if there are known issues with k3b in gutsy? [09:54] (just filed bug 119187) [09:54] Launchpad bug 119187 in k3b "[Gutsy] cd burning with k3b fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119187 [09:54] worked fine in feisty === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E2CD.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:12] Arby: do you have a feisty install somewhere? [10:13] if so, ls -ld /usr/bin/wodim [10:13] Arby: I've found that I need to grant the user RT priority, else the burn fails with symptoms similar to yours [10:13] crimsun: yes I do, checking [10:14] crimsun: returns: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 351K 2007-02-02 20:30 /usr/bin/wodim [10:15] ok, is a wrapper used to grant realtime privs? [10:15] I have no idea, I didn't set one if there is. [10:19] so am I missing a permission setting somewhere? [10:20] and is it normal for CD burning to require root privileges? === glatzor [n=sebi@p54966D49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl_ [n=michael@e180064098.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:36]