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nosrednaekimn00b_london: update-manager12:14
nosrednaekimDarkkish: you did what?12:14
nosrednaekimDarkkish: xorg.conf? no.12:14
Darkkishokay hmm12:14
dwidmannn00b_london: way I would do it would be to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all instances of dapper to edgy, then to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:14
Darkkishyou know what12:15
Darkkishit seems that i'm logged in as root12:15
Darkkishi know what's wrong :D12:15
n00b_londonriight, thanks - someone had told me that before and I'd forgotten12:15
Darkkishi did "startx" in recovery mode lol12:15
nosrednaekimhaha12:15
Darkkishno wonder.12:15
nosrednaekimDarkkish: lol12:15
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Darkkishhaha phew12:15
n00b_londonis there any way to make a 'batch' file that would do that for me?12:15
ejortegauhow do u keep up 2 date?12:15
dwidmannDarkkish: even if in recovery mode, you could "su username" before running startx12:15
nosrednaekimdwidmann: isn't there some automatic tool for that?12:15
dwidmannnosrednaekim: AFAIK there wasn't one available until the Edgy -> Feisty upgrade12:16
dwidmann(in other words, there is now, but the packages for it are for Edgy)12:16
nosrednaekimdwidmann: oh ok..12:16
nosrednaekimejortegau: up to date with what?12:16
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ejortegaupackage updates against exploits and stuff like that12:17
ejortegauon dekstop ubuntu adept or synaptic do that for you... what about on server?12:17
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nosrednaekimejortegau: oh.... apt-get will do it for you.12:18
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ejortegaunosrednaekim: apt-get update or how does it work?12:18
nosrednaekimejortegau: I don't know. I've never done it from the command line12:19
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DragnslcrEither apt-get update or apt-get upgrade12:19
ejortegauit seems to be doing *something*... i guess it works :)12:19
Dragnslcrupdate fetches new package lists, upgrade installs new versions12:19
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nosrednaekimits  apt-get update (updates your package lists) followed by apt-get upgrade(upgrades the packages themselves12:20
nosrednaekimyeah... what Dragnslcr12:20
nosrednaekimsaid12:20
ejortegauok, thanks12:20
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ejortegauif i change, say, my httpd.conf or my postgresql.conf, and then one day i upgrade those packages bc of some exploit or something, will hte update overwrite my configurations?12:21
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DragnslcrIt shouldn't12:21
Darkkishfixed12:21
Darkkish:)12:21
Darkkishi'm silly12:21
DragnslcrWhich has the downside of not adding any new required options12:21
nosrednaekimejortegau: it will ask you... and show you a diff12:21
DragnslcrOh12:22
nosrednaekimDarkkish: hehe12:22
DragnslcrI was wondering if it even attempted a merge of any kind12:22
Darkkishbut now i'm having another problem >_<12:22
nosrednaekimDarkkish: get out of recovery mode for 112:22
Darkkishi am12:22
ejortegaudoesn't sound fun, but yeah, i guess that's the best approach12:22
nosrednaekimDarkkish: oh.. ok12:22
ReMiiRuruWhat (in general) is kept in /proc folder?12:22
Darkkishnosrednaekim: my portable harddrive won't boot12:23
Darkkisher12:23
nethensonReMiiRuru: it is a "virtual folder" (like /dev), it contains system information12:23
nosrednaekimReMiiRuru: statistcs about your hardware. its mostly being moved to /sys though12:23
Darkkishit freezes ubuntu during boot12:23
Darkkishuntil i unplug it12:23
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nosrednaekimDarkkish: your hard driver has ubuntu installed on it?12:23
Darkkishsomething about a USB error and changing the port or something12:23
Darkkishnosrednaekim: no12:24
Darkkishit's just a portable hard drive12:24
ReMiiRuruWow, my hardware statistics take up 1.5GB.12:24
nosrednaekimDarkkish: oh.. ok.12:24
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Darkkishit works fine when i plug it in after it's booted, but i have to unplug it every time i boot (this is a new problem)12:24
nosrednaekimDarkkish: is that and inconvenience?12:24
nosrednaekim*n12:24
nosrednaekim*an.. phew12:24
Darkkishyeah it is12:24
nethensonReMiiRuru: as i said, it is virtual.. in fact no space is ocupied :)12:24
ReMiiRurunethenson: Oh, I see.12:24
nosrednaekimDarkkish: might want to go over to #linux for that.12:25
colkhisdwidmann: I have one question. I am too lazy to make backups. If I install kubuntu (I have a sepparate partition already), what are the chances that something goes wrong and I lose data on other partitions?12:25
nosrednaekimcolkhis: its not exactly likely.. but something bad could hapen12:25
jwallingfordnosrednaekim: how do i follow the instructions for the desktop entry... is that konsole commands?12:26
dwidmanncolkhis: not too likely, but not impossible either12:26
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nosrednaekimjwallingford: oh from that tutorial? let me see..12:27
colkhisok, not likely is good enough for me. :)12:27
colkhisthanks12:27
eljefecolkhis: i've done a lot of installs and never lost anything.  It is possible, but if you know to install to the correct partition, you should be reasonably safe12:27
colkhiseljefe: yes, I have a blank partition, with no data on it.12:28
nosrednaekimjwallingford: open a file in your /homedirectory/Desktop called "thunderbird.desktop" and paste that into it.12:28
dwidmannI've ran into major data loss before. Mostly due to incompetence. I now never, ever recommend people resize partitions, especially not XFS partitions, and especially not with qtparted.12:28
eljefecolkhis: and you know its 'linux name' (e.g. /dev/hda2) ?12:28
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jwallingfordnosrednaekim: you mean create a file called thunderbird.desktop?12:30
colkhiskubuntu live cd will not try to automatically repartition my entire drive, right?12:31
colkhiseljefe: yes I know its name12:31
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ReMiiRuruWow, logs sure take up a lot of space on linux...12:32
nosrednaekimjwallingford: yes... with that text stuff in it....the stuff in the quotes12:32
jwallingfordnosrednaekim: ok what do i create on the desktop? link to application?12:33
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angasuleis there a password length limit for user accounts? or any apps that cause trouble if using >8?12:34
nosrednaekimwell yeah... that would work. but don't paste the text there. you have to enter each field by itself12:34
nosrednaekimangasule: I don't think so12:34
Darkkishbrb hopefully12:34
Darkkishrestarting x12:34
Darkkishhopefully.12:35
ReMiiRuruCan I somehow set up how long does linux keeps logs or how big can syslog kern.log be? I mean, almost 1GB for each of them is too much for my hard drive...12:35
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jwallingfordnosrednaekim: ok i think i got it. but when i click on the link it just acts like its loading for a while then goes away and nothing happens12:36
jwallingford!dvd12:36
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:36
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jwallingford!universe12:36
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:36
wateroxHi room12:36
angasulecool, thanks12:36
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nosrednaekimhello12:37
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chuck!router12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
chuck!masquerading12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about masquerading - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
chuck!ipmasq12:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ipmasq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:37
nosrednaekimjwallingford: ok... just try running this from the command line "/usr/local/bin/thunderbird"12:38
wateroxis this the help service ?12:38
nosrednaekimwaterox: yep12:38
wateroxthanks12:38
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nosrednaekimI haven't done anything yet ;)12:38
waterox:)12:39
jwallingfordnosrednaekim: /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: not found12:39
jwallingfordi have 64bit if that matters12:39
chuckanyone know a decent tutorial for setting up ip masquerading on ubuntu edgy eft?12:39
wateroxUbuntu has really added some nice features since last I had looked12:39
wateroxsry chuck12:40
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nosrednaekimjwallingford: haha... yeah... it definately does12:40
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nosrednaekimwaterox: yeah.. it has12:41
Lynn_1024I'm a convert from windows... is there a way to make something like a batch file on linux?12:41
nosrednaekimLynn_1024: a batch file?12:41
Lynn_1024yes... is that possible?12:42
jwallingfordnosrednaekim: so i cant have thunderbird 2?12:42
HymnToLifenosrednaekim, windows equivalent of shell scripts, IIRC12:42
DragnslcrLynn_1024- yes, it's called shell scripting12:42
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DragnslcrLynn_1024- simple things aren't very difficult12:42
nosrednaekimjwallingford: you are going to have to look around.12:42
HymnToLifejwallingford, 'course you can, just get it fro mozilla.com12:42
nosrednaekimfor a .deb12:42
HymnToLifeyou just can't install it The Ubuntu Way (TM)12:42
wateroxlater room :)12:43
nosrednaekimLynn_1024: oh yeah...a bash script... they are easy.12:43
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Lynn_1024so what do I need to do to make something like sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:43
minty_hey any1 good with beryl?12:43
weswh-workwhat's a decent app to monitor CPU load?12:44
Dragnslcr#!/bin/bash12:44
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Dragnslcrapt-get dist-upgrade12:44
weswh-workcpu/swap/memory...basic kinda thing would be nice.12:44
Lynn_1024sorry12:44
jwallingfordi have been looking and everything i try gives me that same error. I had thunderbird 2 on an old system and backed up my .thunderbird file so that i could use it in ubuntu. can i still use the .thunderbird file if i install v1.5? i think i tried it and got errors when i loaded thunderbird.. is there anything i would have to change in the old .thunderbird file to help this?12:44
DragnslcrI assume that's not what you actually want to do, though12:44
Lynn_1024I forgot to finish that sentence12:44
Lynn_1024I want to make it automated12:44
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HymnToLifecron is your friend ;)12:45
Darkkishugh12:45
Darkkishso now i had to reconfigure my Xorg12:45
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Darkkishand i set it to 1280x102412:45
DragnslcrYou don't actually mean apt-get dist-upgrade, right?12:45
Lynn_1024explanation... I'm working on a friend's computer, bringing it from 6.06 to 7.04, which will take about 5 hours12:45
nosrednaekimLynn_1024: like eveyr couple minutes or every time you log in?12:45
Darkkishbut it only goes up to 1024x768 >_>12:45
Lynn_1024no no.... just once12:45
ReMiiRuruI have big problem. When I try to start some of kde aplications from console using sudo, i.e. "sudo kate" some of them won't start, but they start if I don't use sudo. There's an error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24494/12:45
Dragnslcrdist-upgrade is definitely not something you have to do as a cron job12:45
minty_any1 good with the workign of beryl?12:45
Lynn_1024lol12:45
HymnToLife!kdesu | ReMiiRuru12:45
ubotuReMiiRuru: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo12:45
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nosrednaekimminty_: go to #ubuntu-effects12:46
ReMiiRuruOh...12:46
HymnToLifeReMiiRuru, basucally, use kdesu kate instead of sudo kate12:46
Lynn_1024so how does one make a shell script?12:46
ReMiiRuruYeah, I understood. Thanks.12:46
DragnslcrLynn_1024- it's just a text file12:46
Lynn_1024ok12:46
Lynn_1024saved as...12:46
DragnslcrLynn_1024- you put #!/bin/bash on the first line12:47
DragnslcrWell, technically you can use any interpreter you want, but if you're running shell commands, #!/bin/bash is what you want12:47
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Lynn_1024ok12:48
DragnslcrBasically, #!/path/to/something means "run this file through /path/to/something"12:48
Lynn_1024do I need to save it as anything special, like a batch file is saved as a .bat in windows?12:48
nosrednaekimthen you put in the shell commands that you want to run. you can also for for and if statements12:48
DragnslcrNope, it just has to be executable12:48
nosrednaekimLynn_1024: nope.12:48
Lynn_1024...12:48
DragnslcrUnix doesn't use file extensions for anything12:48
nosrednaekimLynn_1024: you execute it with ./<program name>12:49
Lynn_1024!pastebin12:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:49
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Lynn_1024ok, I'm a little lost on that... I'm still a bit of a n00b myself12:49
DragnslcrOn which part?12:49
Lynn_1024execute with ./<programname>12:50
DragnslcrIn a shell12:50
khirrsomeone of u have installed amsn 0.9712:50
DragnslcrYou should be able to just run it from Konqueror as well12:50
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Lynn_1024so when it comes up with the "Open With" option, I just say konqueror or something?12:50
DragnslcrHm12:51
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nosrednaekimno... tell it to open it with "bash"12:51
Darkkishhow do i reconfigure my graphics card drivers?12:51
nosrednaekimthats not how it should be tho..12:51
Darkkishjust use reinstall in adept12:51
DragnslcrOr Open With... and select "Run In Terminal"12:51
Darkkish??12:51
mahdianybody try KDE4 Alpha 1?12:51
nosrednaekimDarkkish: do you have some kind of proprietary ones?12:51
Lynn_1024well, if you do that, don't you also have to select a program?12:51
Darkkishnosrednaekim: i had to reconfigure xorg12:52
DragnslcrYeah, guess that wouldn't work12:52
DragnslcrYou might have to actually open Konsole and run it from there12:52
nosrednaekimDarkkish: do you have the nvidia or ATI drivers is what i'm asking12:52
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Lynn_1024hmm12:53
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Darkkishnosrednaekim: nvidia, i said that12:53
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Lynn_1024my friend doesn't know the first thing about terminal... I want to make this as easy as possible for her12:53
nosrednaekimDarkkish: ah.. ok.12:53
Lynn_1024it's going to take about 5 hours to upgrade from dapper to edgy12:53
DragnslcrLynn_1024- I would think that Adept can do a dist-upgrade12:54
DragnslcrThough Dapper may have an old version12:54
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Darkkishnosrednaekim: so should i just reinstall nvidia-glx-new in adept?12:54
Lynn_1024well, I've already changed all the references to dapper over to edgy in sources.list12:54
DragnslcrHonestly, dist-upgrade isn't a very trivial thing anyway12:54
Lynn_1024and done the sudo apt-get updates12:54
DragnslcrI would think just telling her to open Konsole and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should be pretty easy to follow12:55
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Lynn_1024lol12:55
jzilladoes anybody have exp. with installing a 32bit firefox in a 64bit enviroment?12:56
DragnslcrI've only installed Kubuntu right from a current CD, so I don't know a whole lot about doing a dist-upgrade12:56
Dragnslcr!dist-upgrade12:56
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)12:56
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Tommy1000kann hier jemand deutsch12:56
DragnslcrThat page might have some helpful tips too12:56
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Dragnslcrjzilla- does the version of Firefox from the repository not work for you?12:57
Alarmhello. i just noticed that i cant view files AND directories on other partitions that are written with greek characters. how can this be fixed ?12:57
jzillaDragnslcr: if i use the repo, it installs 64bit ff.12:57
DragnslcrAnd the problem with that is what?12:58
jzillaflash support12:58
DragnslcrDon't think it would matter12:58
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DarkriftQuestion12:59
ReMiiRuruUmm, I just ran completely out of space on my drive that mounts to / and now all applications almost don't work(or just don't)... And I didn't create any new files on /, data usage on partition just grew with time. Probably some logs, cache and stuff... So, how can I clean things up?12:59
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Darkrifti tried kubuntu on my older dell laptop and things went very smooth12:59
Darkriftso i tried it on my newer compaq v6210us laptop12:59
Darkriftand nothing went smooth12:59
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Darkriftive gotten most things to work, but my wifi is super slow12:59
Daisuke_IdoAlarm: i assume you have the greek language pack installed?12:59
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Darkriftive followed 5 or so different tut's on the ubuntu forums and still no luck01:00
ejortegauhey, i need php to have freetype support, any ideas besides recompiling?01:00
Darkriftanyone know what i could do?01:00
Alarmnop, i didnt do it as i was afraid not this to change the whole language on my system. i sitll want my system to be in english01:00
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Daisuke_Idonope, you can keep the default language as english01:00
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Darkriftid like to get rid of vista for good, but i cant untill i have internet working fully on kubuntu01:00
AlarmDaisuke_Ido,  what does that language pack include ?01:01
Daisuke_Idolet me look real quick01:01
nosrednaekimDarkrift: no idea. what chipset it is?01:01
Darkriftbroadcomm 34xx i think01:01
ejortegaucrap, please tell me i don't need to recompile...01:01
Darkriftthere are many threads about it on the forums01:01
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Tommy1000can somebody speak german01:01
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Darkriftsound worked perfectly (forums said idhave a hell of a time getting sound working)01:02
Darkriftvideo too..... tons of ppl had probs with video, but it works great for me01:02
Darkriftbut wifi is 10k01:02
Dragnslcrejortegau- did you compile PHP from source?01:03
ejortegaunope... i installed from ubuntu... but it does not have freetype support01:03
DragnslcrDarkrift- Broadcom is notoriously horrible in Linux01:03
Darkriftso i hear01:03
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nosrednaekimDarkrift: are you using ndiswrapper01:04
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Darkriftbut.... vista is notoriously horrible period :S01:04
Darkriftno, tried01:04
Darkriftwouldnt install properly01:04
SeanTaterWhy do I get duplicate packets when I ping specific computers on my local network?01:04
nosrednaekimDarkrift: ah.. ok01:04
Daisuke_IdoThis metapackage depends on all packages that provide native language support for applications in Ubuntu (like spell checkers, dictionaries, OpenOffice and Mozilla locale packages, etc.).01:04
Darkriftthe only method i got working was the fwcutter method01:04
nosrednaekimi'm not familiar with it01:05
ximehi, I want know if is possible run xgl/beryl in kde01:05
Darkriftextracts firmware from a windows driver01:05
nosrednaekimxime: yep01:05
nosrednaekimit is01:05
Darkriftyes xime01:05
Darkriftit works awesome01:05
Dragnslcrejortegau- do you have libfreetype6 and libfreetype6-dev installed?01:05
ximeanywone has a link, because I find only for gnome/ubuntu01:05
Darkrifterm01:05
Darkriftinstall it from apt-get01:05
Darkriftthats how i did it01:05
nosrednaekimxime: it shoudl be the same01:05
Darkriftapt-get install beryl01:06
ximewithout beryl repositories?01:06
ejortegaudev thing not... installing it right now01:06
Darkriftooh01:06
Darkriftthink i added them somehow01:06
nosrednaekimxime: if you are on fiesty, yeah01:06
ximeyes I am01:06
Darkriftbeen a few weeks01:06
Darkriftbut i know it was fast and easy01:06
nosrednaekimdid you follow the toturial suggested by !beryl?01:07
nosrednaekim!beryl01:07
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:07
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ejortegauDragnslcr: installed it01:07
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ximeno :s01:07
Darkriftbrb in a few01:07
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nosrednaekimxime: follow the tutorial at beryl-project01:07
nosrednaekimbye01:08
ximeok, I try now, maybe come back later... thanks!01:08
nosrednaekimNP01:08
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ejortegauok, plan b... anyone here using captcha images with a php website?01:09
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ubuntu_Help01:10
ubuntu_nalioth:01:10
ubuntu_nalioth:01:10
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naliothubuntu_: yes?01:10
nosrednaekimubuntu_: whats the problem?01:10
AlarmDaisuke_Ido,  fixed it. just needed to mount my ntfs with iso and unicode01:11
Darkriftuck01:11
Darkriftkonversation is ucky01:11
nosrednaekimI like it...01:11
Daisuke_Idoah ha01:11
ubuntu_hi i wanted to know how to install firefox on kubuntu01:11
nalioth!tell ubuntu_ about firefox01:11
Daisuke_Idoubuntu_: sudo apt-get install firefox01:11
nosrednaekimubuntu_: "sudo apt-get install firefox01:11
ubuntu_thanks01:11
ubuntu_hello01:12
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nosrednaekimhello01:13
[VK] hi01:13
[VK] I have installed UBuntu01:13
[VK] I have installed Kubuntu over the Wubi installer01:13
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[VK] and it detects my Wlan card but I cant make a connection with my router01:14
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[VK] it finds my router (30) but it abourts while connecting01:14
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ximekubuntu has a program to handle restricted software like ubuntu?01:16
Admiral_Chicagoxime: no01:16
Darkriftanyone know if there is some auto installers for wifi (found there are some for video cards)?01:16
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ejortegauthanks for your help guys01:25
ejortegaug2g01:25
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proxieI'm new so forgive me if this is an obvious question ... is it possible to run "Deskbar" in kUbuntu?01:28
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doobehHey, I've got a IMB t60p, and when I try and run Kubuntu 7.04 it seems to load everything okay, but it just sits at a blinking prompt when the GUI should pop up01:30
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doobehis there any way to see what the problem might be?01:30
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backprohello01:30
Daisuke_Idowell i think it's safe to say that X is the problem01:30
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doobehI mean, specific problems01:31
backproi wanna install php in kubuntu !!01:31
doobehIs there a way to see error messages from X?01:31
backprohow ?01:31
Darkriftquestion, my kubuntu seems to not have ndiswrapper installed, but everything is telling me ubuntu does... am i right to assume that this is one of thier differences?01:31
mneisenbackpro: sudo apt-get install php501:31
ace_suaresdoobeh: did you try alt-ctrl-f1 ?01:32
doobehyeah, ace, just a standard prompt, no errors listed there01:32
eljefeDarkrift: not sure; Kubuntu gets the shaft tho01:32
ace_suaresbackpro: something along the lines of apt-get install php might worrk01:32
Darkriftok01:32
ace_suares!php01:32
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:32
Darkriftkinda what i wanted to hear01:32
eljefehas anyone had issues with opening k9copy lately?01:32
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ace_suaresxime: kubuntu = ubuntu + kde01:33
Darkriftso in adept, i found teh ndiswrapper source01:33
eljefeDarkrift: install it tho, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper01:33
Darkriftwill that auto compile or will i have to search for it and compile it?01:33
ximeace_suares yes01:33
Darkrifti tried that01:33
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/usr/src$ sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper01:34
ace_suaresdoobeh: log in to the box, then find /var/log/Zorg.0.log01:34
eljefeDarkrift: not sure!   look into restricted-package-manager or something... i bet that would use ndiswrapper and therefor install it as needed...01:34
DarkriftReading package lists... Done01:34
DarkriftBuilding dependency tree01:34
DarkriftReading state information... Done01:34
DarkriftE: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper01:34
ace_suaressorry not Zorg ! Aaagh ! I mean Xorg.0.log01:34
ximeI get this error when start beryl-manager from console beryl-manager:6953: CRITICAL **: can't execute beryl-xgl: Success01:34
Darkrifti even tried with the full package name01:34
Darkriftsame error01:34
eljefedo you have all of your repositories enabled?01:34
doobehthanks ace, I'll give it a go :)01:34
eljefedoes anyone have issues opening k9copy?01:34
Darkriftso im using adept (which finds it, but the source)01:34
Daisuke_Idondiswrapper-utils-1.901:34
Darkrifti have all of them enabled01:34
Darkrifti can find the utils, but that needs the module first it says01:35
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eljefehmm odd, not sure...  i guess check forums?  !ndiswrapper01:35
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eljefe!ndiswrapper01:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:35
eljefetry that01:35
Darkrifti cant even install firefox with this crappy 10k speed :(01:35
eljefeutils might be alright tho, are you sure its the source?01:36
ace_suaresxime: sorry maybe I missed your question or it was already answered. Else please repeat question.01:36
eljefethat might be just fine01:36
Darkriftits called01:36
eljefeDarkrift: ouch, didn't realize that...01:36
Darkriftndiswrapper-source01:36
eljefeah01:36
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=== xime I get this error when start beryl-manager from console beryl-manager:6953: CRITICAL **: can't execute beryl-xgl: Success
Darkriftsource for the ndiswrapper linux kernal module01:36
ace_suaresDarkrift: try links or lynx (text-only browser)01:36
Darkriftthen there is ndiswrapper-common (scripts for ndiswrapper)01:37
ace_suaresxime: don't know nothing about beryl sorry.01:37
Darkriftand ndiswrapper-utils01:37
Darkriftso it seems the -source is the only one that might work01:37
ximeace_suares I already type it :)01:37
Darkriftmy qeustion is01:37
Darkrifti installed the source01:37
Darkriftbut im guessing it didnt auto compile01:38
Darkriftso where would i find it to compile it01:38
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Darkriftwhats wrong xime?01:38
Darkriftberly worked great in kubuntu on my other laptop01:38
ace_suaresxime: ubuntu + kde = kubuntu, so beryl should work, like in ubuntu, yes? But I don't know enough so better keep my mth sht.01:38
Darkriftit does work01:39
ximeyes I belive but I am doing the same I did in Ubunutu but I get these error I post01:40
eljefeDarkrift: let me go take a look for you on  a faster connection...01:41
eljefe!ndiswrapper01:41
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:41
eljefebrb01:41
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Darkriftk01:43
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colehi01:44
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colehi01:44
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eljefehi01:44
louram02hi01:45
tikal26hello, I am having problems intalling from source01:45
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colei whent to install kubuntu its all laggy and the installer wont start?01:45
louram02speak in portuguese01:45
tikal26I get the following error01:46
tikal26in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.01:46
tikal26So, check this please and use another prefix!01:46
coleeu fui instalar o kubuntu seu toda lento e o instalador no comear01:46
eljefehi Darkrift can you check if you have it already? eljefe@eljefe-desktop: lsmod |grep -i ndis01:46
Daisuke_Ido!pt01:46
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.01:46
colei went to install kubuntu its all slow and the installer wont start01:47
Daisuke_Ido!en louram0201:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about en louram02 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:47
Daisuke_Ido!en | louram0201:47
ubotulouram02: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:47
eljefecole: is it a slow machine?01:47
Darkrifti get nothing eljefe01:47
coleno01:47
eljefeDarkrift: was this a standard install of Kubuntu 7.04?01:47
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Darkriftyes01:47
coleya01:48
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eljefeDarkrift: hmmm, i have it, and the same install... one moment01:48
Darkriftive done lots of playing around, but i dont believe ive uninstalled it01:48
eljefesure01:48
Darkrifti know i installed the utils (gui) and it didnt work01:48
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Darkriftthe gui worked, but it was bringing up lots of errors about missing files and scripts01:48
eljefesure01:49
eljefemomento01:49
coleso how do i fix this problrm01:49
eljefecole: go to a terminal and type 'top' [enter]  and let us know the memory and the CPU %01:50
coleum that be hard because im on this computer01:50
eljefeare you on the computer to which you wish to install kubuntu?  or another?01:51
cole224mb of ram 1.ghz01:51
coleku01:51
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ximenow work, beryl must be 2.0 form ubuntu.beryl-project and not universe repositores01:51
cole1.801:51
Darkriftgot it working xime?01:51
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eljefecole and Darkrift - i gotta go for a bit, back in 10 or something...01:52
Darkriftok01:52
ximeyes, now I have to make it start when xgl start01:52
Darkriftyeah, that part was a pain01:52
coleAMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200! 1.80 GHZ 224 MB of RAM01:52
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ximewhy?01:52
Darkriftdont remember01:52
Darkriftmine didnt want to autorun01:52
Darkriftkept having to change things01:52
Darkriftfinally got it working01:52
coleAMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+ 1.80 GHZ 224 MB of RAM01:53
colegood right?01:53
Darkriftcole:  he is away for a few minutes01:53
Darkriftbut that seems good enough01:53
colekk01:53
Darkriftmines just barely faster01:53
Darkriftand it runs fast01:53
Darkriftand my other laptop is slower and still runs it01:53
Darkriftbut the ram is a little low01:53
coleknow whare i cna get vary cheep ram?01:54
Darkriftno idea01:54
Daisuke_Idowhat kind of ram?01:55
coleum01:55
Daisuke_Idoi'm guessing 333 or 266?01:55
Daisuke_Idoddr sdram01:55
colei got it written down here somewhare01:55
Darkrifthas to be ddr01:56
Darkriftwith a sempron01:56
colek01:56
Darkrift266 most liekely01:56
Daisuke_IdoDarkrift: right01:56
Daisuke_Ido266, 333 at the VERY most01:56
Daisuke_Idono way it'll do 40001:56
Daisuke_Idoor at least no way it'll take advantage of it01:56
Darkriftyeah01:56
Darkriftbut01:56
Daisuke_Idoand that's my problem with ram prices01:56
colemaunal says i can put max of 4gb of ram in it01:56
Darkriftif you dont trash teh one you have01:56
Darkriftyou need to match the speed01:56
Darkriftso whatever you have you need to stick with unless youjjust replace it all01:57
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colespeed 280001:57
Daisuke_Idoright now, ddr2 is dirt cheap, and ddr is through the roof, comparatively01:57
colewat the dif?01:57
Daisuke_Idospeed and architecture01:58
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cole1.80ghtz01:58
coleamd01:58
colex8601:58
Daisuke_Idonope01:58
Daisuke_Idox86_6401:58
Daisuke_Idobut yeah01:59
colenot a 64bit porcessor01:59
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Darkriftmines 6402:00
Darkriftbut someone said just to use x8602:00
Darkrifti thought linux could handle a 64bit os and 32bit programs02:00
Darkriftbut guesss not02:00
Daisuke_IdoDarkrift: for the most part it can, some things won't work properly, and 64 bit OS is overkill for now02:01
Daisuke_Idocole: a socket a then02:01
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coleso how do i fix the problem02:01
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coleinstall wont start and slow02:01
Darkriftinstalling linux-headers so i can compile the stupid ndis02:02
Darkriftoverkill how?02:02
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Daisuke_IdoDarkrift: you won't notice a real increase in performance with less than 4gb ram (at least that's how i understand it)02:02
Daisuke_Idonow...  cole.  is this a prebuilt system?02:03
coleum yes02:03
colei bought at walmart02:03
Daisuke_Idobrand and model?02:03
Daisuke_Idoi'm guessing HP or compaq02:03
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Darkrift50s lag :(02:04
Darkriftouch02:04
Darkriftemachine or compaq02:04
Darkriftor hp02:04
Darkriftproprietary out the ass02:04
Darkriftgonna have fun like me and my laptop :S02:04
colecompaq02:04
osloon a ftp server, WITH Konqueror: i can create Files&Folders, i can Modify Files&Folders, i can erase folders BUT i CAN'T erase Files ! with another client like kasablanca all is fine ( exept that there another probleme, with casablanca u can't cut & paste, only copy & paste )02:04
osloany help ?02:04
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Darkriftanyone with a decent connection speed able to find me a link to dl ndiswrapper-1.2-rc102:07
mahdioslo: sounds like permissions issue, this a local server or remote?02:07
Darkriftsurfing is to slow to be usefull with a 10k connection :(02:08
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Darkrifti have a tutorial that says to use that version02:08
Darkriftbut cant find it02:08
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nosrednaekimDarkrift: that tutorial it will work with any version02:09
Darkriftok02:09
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nosrednaekimDarkrift: ouch that is slow....is that the limitation of your wireless?02:11
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Darkriftok, tried 1.4602:13
Darkriftand now im just getting hundreds of errors when compiling02:13
Darkriftmake[1] : Entering directory `/home/darkrift/ndiswrapper-1.46/utils'02:14
Darkriftgcc -g -Wall -I../driver -o loadndisdriver loadndisdriver.c02:14
Darkriftloadndisdriver.c:15:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory02:14
Darkriftloadndisdriver.c:16:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory02:14
Darkriftand it goes on for a while02:14
Darkriftlots of missing files, inporper functions etc02:14
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nosrednaekimyou don't need to compile the ustils... just the kernel driver02:16
Darkrifti know02:16
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Darkriftndiswrapper-1.46/02:16
nosrednaekim*utils02:16
Darkriftthats what i compuled02:16
Darkriftu = i02:16
Darkriftor tried02:16
Darkriftfollowing the tutorial but with a different version02:17
Darkriftsudo tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.2-rc102:17
Darkriftcd /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2-rc1/02:17
Darkriftsudo make02:17
Darkriftsudo make install02:17
Darkriftgot the errors on make02:17
nosrednaekimoh.. ok.02:17
Darkriftmissing libs?02:17
nosrednaekimso you said "make"02:17
nosrednaekim?02:17
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Darkriftyeah02:17
Darkriftsudo make02:18
nosrednaekimare you root?02:18
oslomahdi> its a local ftp server one02:18
Darkriftactually, yes02:18
Darkriftlol02:18
Darkriftforgot about that02:18
nosrednaekimah.. right02:18
nosrednaekimso what.... you didn't run with sudo?02:18
Darkrifti did02:18
nosrednaekimoh ok02:19
Darkrifti just tried it without and got permission denied02:19
mahdioslo: what program is being used to run the server?02:19
Darkriftfirst time i typed sudo make02:19
nosrednaekimok02:19
oslomahdi> don't know02:20
nosrednaekimDarkrift: question. if you cd'ed to usr/src/ndiswrapper.... why does it say that it was entering home/darkrift/ndiswrapper-1.46/utils?02:21
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Darkriftbecause i unpacked it in the wrong place02:21
coleback02:21
Darkriftdoes it need to be in usr/src?02:21
nosrednaekimDarkrift: no it doesn't.. ok02:22
Darkriftk02:22
mahdioslo: well i'm out of ideas, sorry i'm a little busy02:22
nosrednaekimDarkrift: did you get "build-essential"?02:22
Darkriftprob not02:22
Darkriftno idea what it is02:22
oslomy provider: free.fr give me a modem & a multimedia box, the two are self connected by wifi, when i'm connected to the modem i must reach the multimedia hard drive box by FTP hd1.freebox.fr which is the multimedia box name's domain02:22
coleso fixing this problem wohuld require>?02:22
Darkriftinstalling it now nosrednaekim02:23
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Darkriftgonna take 10 mins to dl02:23
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Darkriftso imma run to the store and get some dr pepper :)02:23
Darkriftbrb abnd thx for helping :)02:23
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Daisuke_Idois there a quick way to get the make and model of a motherboard?02:24
nosrednaekimok02:24
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: lshw?02:25
nosrednaekimthats all I can think of02:25
coteyrhey hows eveyone doing I am thinkin of migrating from fc6 to kubuntu. I have done so on my laptop and I like it.The only 2 things that worry me are vpn access (i have multipul ways though mspptp is the only "supported" one) and ease of server admin. So far I have to say the later is not a big concern02:25
Daisuke_Idonever heard of it, let's give it a spin!02:25
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coteyris there anyone here willing to help out with some vpn access issues02:25
nosrednaekimI don't even know what vpn is..02:25
coteyrI have followed this "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91249.html"02:25
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MinatakuVirtual Private Network02:26
coteyrand this "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91249.html"02:26
coteyrthere about the same02:26
MinatakuIt's a LAN except established over a WAN02:26
coteyri have done everything including restarting (the laptop and the service)02:26
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Darkriftvirtual private networking02:27
Darkriftbut thats all i know about it02:27
Darkriftlol02:27
coteyrbut when I click on the network manager systray thingy (sorry) and go to configure VPN nothing happens02:27
coteyrno windows no dialogs no nothing02:27
Darkriftvpn tunnels use the internet to make a private "lan like" connection to the host02:27
coteyri have also tried kvpnc02:28
nosrednaekimah ok02:28
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Daisuke_Idonosrednaekim: that didn't tell me, but it did give me enough to go on to figure it out on the manufacturer's site02:28
coteyrand i can't get that to work ether though the problems I have with that could be a few dirrent things02:28
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: ok.. good02:29
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Daisuke_Idowanted to make sure i didn't just blow $115 on an sata2 drive if it's not supported02:29
MinatakuI just explained that, Darkrift02:29
Daisuke_Idothese are usually the kinds of things i would look for FIRST, but i was in a hurry02:29
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: finally got around to ordering a replacement drive.  i'd say replacing a 160 with a 500 is acceptable.02:31
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Sounds reasonable02:31
MinatakuThat's 340MB extra02:31
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Daisuke_Idonot really, but hey02:33
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Daisuke_Idoi still have issues with how it's measured in real space and marketspeak02:33
Daisuke_Idoand that's gb :P02:33
Daisuke_Idocan't believe i missed that :\02:33
cole  02:34
Daisuke_IdoGB, too02:34
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Heehee02:34
Daisuke_Idowhoa, fancy02:34
Minatakucole: English only here, sorry02:34
MinatakuNice display, though02:34
Daisuke_Idoagreed02:34
Sloikcole: Pretty cool looking. :P02:34
MinatakuProbably supposed to be reading that right to left, no?02:34
Daisuke_Idoyep02:35
AresilekHello02:35
nosrednaekimI think it should be <eloc> then ;)02:35
colelol02:35
AresilekI'm trying to get my dvd to play with vlc from the autorun menu02:35
Sloiknosrednaekim: That's what I was about to say.02:35
Daisuke_Idono, that's the nick he's using, it just looks like "cole" to us02:35
Aresilekbut it comes up with an error...02:35
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Haha02:36
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido: lol02:36
MinatakuLRO02:36
MinatakuLeft-to-Right Override ;302:36
cole02:36
Daisuke_Idokanji02:36
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Daisuke_Idowhich are actually very well represented02:36
nosrednaekimi'm not aure but I think that says "Vista sucks..."02:36
Minataku02:36
cole02:36
BluesKaj!jp | cole02:36
ubotucole:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 02:36
MinatakuI beat ya to it, cole02:36
Daisuke_Idolittle cyrillic there...02:36
colelol02:36
coleat least i ment somthing02:37
MinatakuHeehee02:37
Daisuke_Idoshow me !kung and i'll be impressed.02:37
coleYUChZhEgtsEYuShfSbilmee  what u put02:37
MinatakuYeah, mine was frantic clicking02:37
BluesKaj!ch02:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:37
Minataku!ru02:37
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:37
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BluesKaj!ma02:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:37
cole> Please go to # ubuntu-ru for assistance in Russian02:37
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colebtw it was english02:38
colei sied english02:38
cole^^02:38
MinatakuHeh02:38
MinatakuYeah, all I know is English02:38
MinatakuSo... yeah XD02:38
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BluesKaj!gr02:38
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes02:38
MinatakuCool02:38
coleinglese02:38
cole!jp02:38
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 02:38
MinatakuHm02:38
Minataku!sw02:38
SloikWhat's the best web browser in you guys' opinions?02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
cole!ar02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
Minataku!il02:38
ubotu        :02:38
ubotu/join #ubuntu-il02:38
MinatakuHeehee02:38
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MinatakuOooh, a bug02:39
Daisuke_Ido!kr02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
BluesKajwhat's mandarin and cantonese ?02:39
elementrus86hello02:39
Minataku!ch02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
MinatakuEr02:39
cole!great02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about great - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
nosrednaekimhey BluesKaj02:39
Minataku!cn02:39
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:39
cole!sp02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
cole!sa02:39
ubotuFor the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa02:39
elementrus86my ipod only shows up on my system if I boot with it plugged in02:39
BluesKajhi nosrednaekim02:39
elementrus86no other way02:39
cole!la02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about la - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
cole!cl02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
Minatakuelementrus86: Problem solved then02:39
elementrus86lol no02:39
cole!el02:39
MinatakuHeehee02:39
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes02:39
nosrednaekimstop spamming the channel !!!02:39
Sloikcole: Could you stop, please?02:39
elementrus86i cant reboot every time i need my ipod02:39
MinatakuYeah, stop now02:39
nosrednaekim!spam02:39
ubotuUnsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)02:39
Minataku!botabuse02:40
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:40
nosrednaekim!botsnack02:40
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:40
Minataku!butt02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about butt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
MinatakuOooh02:40
Minataku!sex02:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:40
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ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.02:40
SloikCould you stop with the bot, please?02:40
MinatakuHaha02:40
elementrus86dude wtf02:40
elementrus86stop that02:40
elementrus86lol02:40
BluesKaj!botabuse02:40
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...02:40
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Alarmhello, i got a question, when installing a package. for example amarok, it installs other packages also (ruby for example as a dependency). when removing it again. it removes only the amarok , leaving the rest that was installed (ruby in that case) back. is there a way when i want to remove amarok  (or any other package) to remove also the packages that where installed with it ?02:40
coleC()l_llcl y()l_l 57()p w17h 73h |3()7, p13453?02:41
elementrus86lol does kubuntu 6.10 live cd come with a firewall?02:41
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Daisuke_IdoAlarm: install and remove with amarok02:41
Daisuke_IdoOI02:41
Daisuke_IdoAlarm: install and remove with aptitude02:41
TroubledGuyACTION needs help. He's is an absolute newbie to Linux and Ubuntu; had his XP computer crashed and won't boot (blue scree of death). He hasn't backed up information in 8 months, and when tries to re-install Windows it says that it can't install in the existing partition; which means i need to format my hard drive. When I load kUbuntu and try to click on my hard drive it gives me the error can't find /dev/hda1 in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab -02:41
Daisuke_Idomention amarok in the message :\02:41
MinatakuTroubledGuy: Too long02:41
Daisuke_Idosounds like a not-so-pleasant hard drive problem02:42
AlarmDaisuke_Ido,  aptitute i a command or gui application02:42
TroubledGuyI feel screwed02:42
BluesKajAlarm, try using aptitude to remove pkges , it also removes uneeded dependencies02:42
Daisuke_IdoAlarm: a command02:42
coleTry th1s l33t tr4nsl4t0r.02:42
coleTyp3 1n h3r3, 4nd s33 th3 w0rds tr4nsl4t3 t0 l33t.02:42
MinatakuSorry, assisting people is tough work... gotta screw around every so often, ya know?02:42
Daisuke_Idoalso a curses based console app, but that's neither here nor there02:42
Daisuke_Idono.  no leet. it's evil.02:42
Sloik[19:37]  *** ubuntu__ is now known as TroubledGuy.02:42
Minatakucole: It's broken02:42
MinatakuIt's missing a few02:42
colewhat02:42
MinatakuLike l to 1 and t to 702:43
TroubledGuyI've been trying to fix it for the past 3 hours. no luck.02:43
Alarmso everything that is installed now with apt-get , aptitute cant remove the uneeded dependencies ?02:43
cole7 7|-|1$ 337 74|\|$470.02:43
cole7p3 1|\| |-|33, 4|\| $33 7|-|3 \/\/0$ 74|\|$473 70 337.02:43
colebetter?02:43
SloikDude, cole, stop the spamming.02:43
MinatakuThat's just garbage02:43
Minataku:P02:43
cole100%leet02:43
Daisuke_IdoTroubledGuy: if it can't find hda1, look for sda102:43
MinatakuNah, that's trash :P02:43
Daisuke_Ido100% childish02:43
colelol02:43
coleback to topic02:44
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coleinstall wont stop and its sloooow02:44
colestart02:44
cole**02:44
TroubledGuyDaisuke_ido: I wish I could. All I know is how to double click on the hard drive that shows in the home screen. It does recognize the volume's name, though, so I think it is the one I want02:44
nzkwill doubling my ram from 512mb to 1gb make any difference in my linux performance?02:44
Minatakunzk: Yes02:45
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Darkkishso like02:45
MinatakuMaybe not as much of an increase as you'd see in Windows, which sucks02:45
BluesKajMinataku, will aptitude remove the unneeded dependencies if installed by apt ...i fail to understand why it wouldn't but I'm still learning too.02:45
Darkkishon my computer,02:45
Darkkishx won't start02:45
DarkkishI have no idea why, it was working fine earlier02:46
Darkriftty mucho02:46
MinatakuBluesKaj: I have no idea. It may, but then certain deps may be used by other packages which would make removing them a Bad Idea TM.02:46
SloikDarkkish: Doing anything with video drivers or xorg.conf later?02:46
nzkMinataku, for me ubuntu was faster than windows but when one of my ram  sticks shorted02:46
Sloikearlier*02:46
Darkriftbuild-essential seems to have helped02:46
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MinatakuDarkrift: Yeah, Ubuntu thinks you should never be compiling anything, so it gives you nothing to let you do it02:46
Darkriftndis built02:47
DarkkishSloik, I guess i made some odd change to my NVidia drivers02:47
BluesKajyes Minataku , that why i used the word "unneeded"02:47
Darkriftlol02:47
MinatakuYou have to explicitly get it all yourself02:47
Darkkishbut idk what it was >_>02:47
SloikDarkkish: That's the problem... I'02:47
MinatakuBluesKaj: Either way, I have no idea, because I use Portage02:47
Sloikm assuming02:47
weswh-workI am looking to build a screaming fast Kubuntu workstation - what's my best bet processor wise? Is much software taking advantage of dual core offerings like a Core 2 Duo? (which is 32 bit, i believe?)02:47
SloikDarkkish: What did you change?02:47
Minatakuweswh-work: UltraSPARC-III02:47
DarkkishI don't remember02:47
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weswh-workideally I'd get something 64bit Dual Core - just don't want to get something that the software doesn't support well.02:47
BluesKajhehe, ok Minataku , what is portage ?02:47
Darkkishit was a command someone gave me, to fix beryl02:47
MinatakuOr UltraSPARC-T102:47
MinatakuBluesKaj: I'm a Gentoo user02:48
weswh-workMinataku: those run AMD?02:48
SloikHmm... Well I can't really help you from there... I'm no expert on Linux myself. :P02:48
Minatakuweswh-work: No, those are SPARC chips02:48
SloikSorry02:48
MinatakuI'm half-messing with you02:48
weswh-workah...interesting. ok :)02:48
MinatakuAs for me, I love Intel if it has to be a PC02:48
MinatakuAs for 64bit in a PC... useless02:48
weswh-workfair enough02:48
MinatakuStick with 32, or get a 64 and run a 32 OS02:49
BluesKajGentoo user hanging out with Kubuntu ppl ....life must be lonely in gentooland :)02:49
weswh-workis much in Ubuntu taking advantage of dual core?02:49
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MinatakuNah, I just like to help02:49
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Minatakuweswh-work: Considering it's the kernel that takes advantage of such, anything using the Linux kernel will02:49
MinatakuAnd yes, dual core is the way to go02:49
TroubledGuywould someone terribly mind helping me mount my windows-crashed c: drive? I'm panicking here. I can explain all the details in private.02:50
weswh-workI built a freebsd server earlier this year with a 3000 series Dual Core Xeon. I'd be tempted to go that road again.02:50
weswh-workcool..good to know.02:50
weswh-workso the kernel, not the individual applications, take control of distributing the CPU load?02:50
MinatakuThe kernel runs the whole show02:50
MinatakuBut individual apps can be set up to multithread02:50
MinatakuWhether or not the binary packages that are provided do this or not, who knows02:51
MinatakuPersonally, I'd go with Gentoo02:51
MinatakuEspecially on a brand-new system02:51
MinatakuPlus you seem to know what you're doing02:51
MinatakuSo I'd honestly have to completely disapprove of Kubuntu for your uses02:51
weswh-workheh, I don't know...it's so low maintenance.02:52
Darkriftdamn02:52
Darkriftso i got ndiswrapper installed02:52
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Darkriftbut it doesnt like my drivers :(02:52
SloikTroubledGuy: Is the drive NTFS?02:52
OhMyAudiHow do I get the system to shut down when I hit the power button, instead of bringing up the log off dialog???02:53
Darkriftcouldn't find SourceDisksFiles section - continuing anyway...02:53
Darkriftcouldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete02:53
Darkrifti get those 2 errors with any driver i pick02:53
weswh-workwhen I get on this machine, I want my dual displays, play movies, music, web development, open office etc. Not sure what else I would need. I went to FreeBSD for our server at the office because it was so stripped down and made server maintenance easy for me02:53
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nosrednaekimDarkrift: what does it say?02:53
Darkriftcouldn't find SourceDisksFiles section - continuing anyway...02:54
Darkriftcouldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete02:54
nosrednaekimoh never mind02:54
weswh-workbut my only experience with Gentoo was about 3 years ago, and it was a pain :P Of course I know a bit more than I did then.02:54
Darkriftsudo make02:54
Darkriftsudo make install02:54
Darkriftcd /the dir where your windows networkdrivers are/02:54
Darkriftsudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5 (or other driver name if you have another card)02:54
Darkriftsudo ndiswrapper -l (making sure the driver is installed)02:54
Darkriftthats teh tutorial im following02:54
Darkriftmake worked02:54
Darkriftmake install worked02:54
Minatakuweswh-work: It's also no doubt improved as well02:54
weswh-workall I remember is typing emerge and waiting 2 days. hehe02:54
Darkriftbut installing drivers isnt02:54
MinatakuHeh02:54
MinatakuYeah, on a shiny new system, you'd wait maybe 7 hours02:55
MinatakuIf even that02:55
weswh-workso you think it makes a good workstation OS?02:55
MinatakuI use it as such02:55
nosrednaekimDarkrift: wait... you have to specify an inf file02:55
SloikDarkrift: Are you typing in the name of the INF file?02:55
Darkriftno02:55
Darkriftcause the folder it tells me to go to has no inf files02:55
weswh-workwhat advantage does it have over Kubuntu - if the idea is to get a functional KDE environment going02:55
SloikThat's a problem.02:55
Darkriftthe tut says go to c:\windows\system32\drivers02:55
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Darkriftand the file in that folder is bcmwl6.sys02:56
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Darkriftno inf exist int hat folder :s02:56
Darkriftso i was confused02:56
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SloikDarkrift: You need to download the windows drivers for your wireless card...02:56
Darkrifti do have the driver install folder02:56
Darkriftthat has an inf02:56
Darkriftand that one says invalid too02:56
SloikI don't know what that tutorial is telling you to do...02:56
SloikOh02:56
Minatakuweswh-work: Everything is compiled to your specific system and specifications02:56
MinatakuInstead of to some crusty 486 sitting in the Canonical offices :P02:56
SloikSo you typed in the exact name of the INF and it still threw an error?02:57
Darkriftlemme try again02:57
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nosrednaekimDarkrift: you have to put .inf at the end you know02:57
weswh-workMinataku: yeah, that is true. I guess I see your point there esp. with regard to dual core procs etc.02:57
wuhaosomebody here?02:57
nosrednaekimwuhao: we never sleep02:57
nosrednaekimwuhao: there is always someone here02:58
MinatakuExcept on Wednesdays02:58
MinatakuWhich is today02:58
SloikMinataku: Hah02:58
MinatakuSo this is all prerecorded02:58
MinatakuPlease leave a message at the beep.02:58
Daisuke_Idois there a better audio editor than audacity?02:58
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf02:58
Darkriftdriver bcmwl6 is already installed02:58
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$02:58
Darkriftodd02:58
wuhaosomebody can speak Chinese?02:58
Minataku!cn02:58
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:58
Daisuke_Idobecause audacity is starting to irk me02:58
Darkrifti think i need to remove the fauled ones02:58
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: No02:58
wuhaohehe02:58
Daisuke_Idoall i need is good spectral analysis02:59
nosrednaekimDarkrift: no... its ok... try modprobing ndiswrapper02:59
Darkriftooooh02:59
wuhaomy poor English!02:59
Sloikndiswrapper -r INF02:59
Darkriftseems to have worked after removing02:59
Minatakuwuhao: Seems pretty good to me02:59
Sloiksudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:59
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf02:59
Darkriftdriver bcmwl6 is already installed02:59
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -r bcmwl602:59
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf02:59
Darkriftinstalling bcmwl6 ...02:59
Darkriftdarkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$02:59
MinatakuDarkrift: Stop that02:59
SloikDarkrift: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper02:59
Daisuke_Idowuhao: your ESL is better than most native speakers'02:59
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wuhaothx02:59
Darkriftgot nothing Sloik03:00
wuhaovery much!03:00
SloikIt's not supposed to output anything....03:00
SloikYour wireless card should start working though.03:00
wuhaoI am a new fisher of Kubuntu!03:00
Darkriftthen it worked! lol03:00
Darkriftlemme try my speed i guess03:00
nosrednaekimDarkrift: looks good...  modprobe it, and remove your bcm module03:00
Sloiktry sudo ndiswrapper -l03:00
Darkriftooooh03:00
Darkrifthow do i remove my old driver?03:00
Darkriftits using an alternate driver03:00
Darkriftbcm43xx03:01
Darkriftsomethign about blacklisting it?03:01
nosrednaekimDarkrift: a reboot is best, after blacklisting your braodcom driver03:01
MinatakuThis is Linux03:01
MinatakuYou don't reboot03:01
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Darkriftlol03:01
MinatakuIf it works, it works, leave it03:01
MinatakuYou're fine03:01
Darkriftits not working03:01
Minataku 21:01:36 up 87 days, 16:27,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.0003:01
Darkriftcause my old driver is loaded03:01
Darkrifthow do i blacklist?03:01
Darkriftim still fairly new here03:02
MinatakuDarkrift: You used that "sudo ndiswrapper -r" command03:02
MinatakuTry that again03:02
weswh-workMinataku: speaking of Sparc chips though - some people told me a while back that if I thought FreeBSD was a big improvement over Linux in terms of server use - that I would feel the same way going from FreeBSD to Solaris. any thoughts?03:02
nosrednaekimI have to go... Minataku'll take care of you03:02
MinatakuPerhaps not in the loving, nurtring sense as much as the baseball bat sense03:02
Minatakuj/k03:02
Minatakuweswh-work: Solaris only on SPARC chips03:02
MinatakuThat's my personal policy03:03
Darkriftthe -r command remvoes drives rom ndiswrapper right?03:03
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Darkriftillcheck the man pages03:03
MinatakuDarkrift: I guess so. Did it do that before?03:03
SloikDarkrift: I'm pretty sure.03:03
Darkriftyes, i removed all the rest03:03
MinatakuIt was part of the stuff you pasted into here03:03
Minatakulol03:03
Darkriftbut the broadcom drivers arent part of ndiswrapper03:03
MinatakuThat's where I got the -r idea XD03:03
Darkriftthey were installed during the kubuntu install03:03
dwidmannMinataku: why such a policy?03:03
Darkriftit said i need to blacklist them03:04
Minatakudwidmann: Use the OS for the chip03:04
MinatakuIRIX for SGI-MIPS03:04
MinatakuSolaris for SPARC03:04
SloikYeah03:04
SloikAlso03:04
MinatakuLinux for x8603:04
Sloikdo sudo ndiswrapper -m03:04
dwidmann_64 :)03:04
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Minatakudwidmann: x86_64 should be booted only in x86 mode03:04
Minatakux86_64 is useless03:04
Darkriftmodule configuration already contains alias directive03:05
MinatakuAll it provides is trouble03:05
dwidmannuseless? how so?03:05
dwidmannwhat trouble?03:05
SloikDarkrift: Oh, cool.03:05
MinatakuVarious sets of complications03:05
SloikDarkrift: Well I'm not sure about blacklisting...03:05
dwidmannLiiiiiiiike?03:05
MinatakuRegarding incompatibilities and such03:05
Darkriftill google it03:05
Darkriftthx for help guys03:05
Darkriftafk 303:05
Minatakudwidmann: For example, no Flash with 6403:05
SloikDarkrift: No problem03:05
dwidmannMinataku: easily worked around03:05
MinatakuHow so?03:06
dwidmannnspluginwrapper03:06
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Daisuke_Idothere shouldn't have to be a ton of workarounds though :\03:06
MinatakuStill, multicore is where the future is03:06
Daisuke_Idoadobe's just stubborn (and/or lazy)03:06
Darkriftsudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist03:06
MinatakuNot 64 bit03:06
Darkriftseems thats how you do it :)(03:06
dwidmannMinataku: multi-core 64-bit :)03:06
Minatakudwidmann: Only if booted in 32bit mode03:06
Daisuke_Idorezound looks like it might be what i'm looking for03:06
SloikDarkrift: Cool03:07
Daisuke_Idoand 64 bit will be useful eventually03:07
Minataku64bit has absolutely no true advantage for any common-enough application03:07
dwidmannDaisuke_Ido: besides, there aren't A TON of work-arounds03:07
dwidmannonly a handful really03:07
Darkriftnow it wants a reboot03:07
Darkriftbrb in afew03:07
SloikDarkrift: Alrighty.03:07
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: I'm sure Microsoft will retard that, given how Win64 is a total piece of shot03:07
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Darkrifthow can i reboot linux without going all the way back to grub?03:08
Darkriftanyone know?03:08
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: no doubt03:08
dwidmannMinataku: no kidding, I tried installing that once. Just to see how it would behave. Worthless POS is the only term I could find for it.03:08
MinatakuDarkrift: It's a reboot03:08
Darkriftok03:08
MinatakuYou have to restart the entire system :P03:08
dwidmann64-bit linux is for the most part pretty solid though03:08
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raymondi have what is a really dumb question concerning BASH scripting03:09
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raymondhow do i take output save it to a file in a certain format and have it append new information to the file03:10
dwidmannraymond, feel free to ask it.03:10
raymond?03:10
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dwidmannexample: ls $HOME > newfile03:11
dwidmannfollowup of example: ls /home >> newfile03:11
dwidmannformatting it could be considerably trickier03:12
MinatakuHave the output already be in proper format03:12
MinatakuThen use >> to append to an existing file03:13
raymondi have to save first and last name to the file. they are set a variables ($FNAME and $LNAME) but they have to be last name first then first name03:13
MinatakuThis sounds like an assignment03:13
raymondit is03:13
MinatakuWe don't help people cheat03:13
raymondi  missed tthe class and the book doesnt explain03:13
raymondit doesnt explain how to format the text in the file03:13
raymondi know how to actually create the file03:14
raymondjust the formatting part03:14
MinatakuI'd format it before putting it in the file03:14
MinatakuTrying to do it afterwards would be stupid03:14
dwidmannindeed, doing it afterwards would probably involve moving it to a new file in the process03:14
MinatakuUnless you created an intermediary output file, formatted what's in there then appended it's contents03:14
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raymondwell the instructions don't specify order so i'll just have the user input them properly and then append it to the file. then i'll just ask my instructor how i could have done it if the order was backwards. probably could write an if/elif statement but that seems to complicated for this assignment03:18
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MinatakuGood luck with it either way :303:19
raymondthank you03:19
Minatakunp03:19
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dwidmannPersonally I wouldn't do it in bash ... I'd probably do it in perl or python ... but that'd defeat the purpose of the assignment03:20
MinatakuSorry for accusing you of trying to cheat at first XD03:20
raymondthats no problem i'm sure people try to do it that way03:20
raymondi want to learn and unfortunatly my text doesnt always cover what my instructor does03:21
Minatakume nods03:21
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Minataku>.<03:21
Aresilekwhy isn't this vlc playing the dvds from autorun??? :-S03:21
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dwidmannraymond: google does though :)03:21
raymondthat was going to be my next stop03:22
raymondthere probably is a stupid simple way to do it,and probably says so in this book and i'm just not reading it correctly. overthinking it03:22
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Aresilekwhy is it that vlc will play fine in i enter "wxvlc -f dvd:///dev/scd0" into the terminal. but if I add it to autorun it doesn't work?03:23
dwidmannAresilek: not sure, I've been having the same problem03:24
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Aresilek:-O03:25
Aresilekdwidmann: it's really weird isn't03:25
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raymondi'm retarded. all i need to do is echo the variables for the names in the proper porder and output it to a file (echo $LNAME $FNAME >> names.txt)03:25
Aresilekdwidmann: obviously autorun does some different than the terminal run03:25
raymondsee overthinking the problem03:25
dwidmannAresilek: I'm having the same problem, except with DVDs that is, but the same problem none-the-less03:25
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zarilionHey. How do i unmount a harddrive in terminal ?03:26
Aresilekdwidmann: my problem is with dvds too, i should have mentions that :-S03:26
dwidmannraymond, see the results of that first, it depends on the contents of the variables, are there more than one in the variables?03:26
Minatakuzarilion: "sudo umount <device or mount point>"03:27
raymondwell the whole script asks for your first and last name. then using read i store the first and last name in a variable ($FNAME for the first and $LNAME for the last name)03:27
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dwidmannAresilek: yeah, it's weird, because it doens't have the same problem with kaffeine03:27
zarilionMinataku: Thank you :)03:27
Minatakuzarilion: np03:27
dwidmannraymond: ah, so I was overthinking the problem03:27
raymondso was i03:27
raymondknew it had to be something simple. he wouldnt have us doing anything too complicated03:28
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raymondthanks for your help though03:28
Darkrift411ok03:28
Darkrift411that killed my wifi03:29
Darkrift411so im back to vista :(03:29
Darkrift411i get claustrophobic with no internet access03:29
Darkkish_Boxwell03:29
Darkkish_Boxlinux problem sare gone03:29
Darkkish_Boxkinda bored.03:30
Darkrift411fix mine03:30
Darkrift411lol03:30
dwidmannDarkrift411: perhaps you'd have better luck with a different wifi card?03:30
Darkrift411well03:30
Darkrift411this is a laptop03:30
Darkrift411so short of $3003:30
Darkrift411thats not easy to do03:30
Darkkish_BoxDarkrift411: try a USB wif card..03:30
Darkkish_Boxon second thought03:31
Darkkish_Boxi don't recommend that03:31
Darkrift411i need ot find out how to fix what i just did03:31
Darkrift411so at least i have slow internet03:32
Darkrift411lol03:32
Darkrift411i made a text file with the ndis errors on bootup03:32
Darkrift411but its on teh linux partition03:32
Darkrift411and i dont know how to get it in vista :(03:32
Darkkish_Boxuh03:32
Darkkish_Boxhold that thought03:32
dwidmannDarkrift411: in all probablility you can't get to it in vista03:32
Darkkish_Boxhttp://www.fs-driver.org/03:32
Darkrift411figured03:33
Darkkish_Boxtry that03:33
Darkrift411maybe unblacklisting the old driver would work03:33
Darkrift411problem is03:33
Darkrift411i cant get to teh web pages that told me what i was doing now03:33
Darkrift411lol03:33
jttDarkkish, use a live cd to xfer it to vista03:34
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Darkkish_Boxhmm?03:34
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sthompsonCan someone check a possible KDE bug? I'm not sure if this is a Kubuntu issue or a KDE issue03:37
sthompsonCopy an OpenOffice document to the desktop and see if it becomes transparent03:37
zarilionIm having some problems with the NTFS Configuration tool, i mounted my other HDD in a new place just now but cant read it from my user, only root, when i try to change permissions it wont let me. Even in root. When i try to use NFTS config tool it just tells me that it cant do anything with the drive since its mounted somewhere else now :(03:37
apolsthompson: I tried it some time ago, it happens03:37
sthompsonKDE or Kubuntu03:38
apolkde03:38
jttsthompson, i also have had that problem03:38
apolbut you can send it to launchpad as well03:38
sthompsonI filed a bug report today and I didn't see any other bugs that matched. THANKS03:38
jttsthompson, kde or Kub  anyones guess03:38
sthompsonWell, if it happens on another distro then i'd say it's a KDE bug. Trying to determine if it's Kubuntu specific03:39
nepsmthngdoes anybody has any idea about installing durpal on ubuntu03:39
nepsmthng?03:39
Darkrift411damnit03:42
Darkrift411im pissed03:42
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Darkrift411if i go back to kubuntu to try to fix it, im on my own with no internet03:42
Darkrift411if i stay here where i have help, i cant try anything03:42
AresilekHow is a program run differently in autorun, than in the shell?03:42
sthompsonI'll check the launchpad. Thanks!03:42
Darkrift411i wish someone had created a package to install that would rix it03:42
Darkrift411rix = fix03:43
nepsmthngwhich wifi card do u have?03:44
sthompsonsee ya.03:44
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Darkrift411its the broadcom03:45
Darkrift411forgot model03:45
RawSewagewhats the command line to clear a playlist in Amarok03:45
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zarilionanyone know why i cant change permissions for a HDD ?03:46
nepsmthngthat always sucks03:46
nepsmthngi had a trouble once03:46
AresilekHow do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?03:46
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Darkrift411i cant find the model of the chipset03:47
Darkkishwhat is the best multi-im client?03:48
zarilioni like kopete03:48
Darkkishew03:48
Darkkishi don't :(03:48
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nepsmthng ru using 7.04/03:49
zariliontry gaim.. or what ever its called these days03:49
DragnslcrRepository still has Gaim 2.0beta03:49
zarilionok03:50
Darkkishhow can i update my repo for the newest gaim and the newest Thunderbird03:50
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zarilioncheck the web page of pedgin or what its called. not in deb yet, someone needs to make a .deb package of it first i guess03:50
Darkrift411http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/prodinfoCategory?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3340118&lang=en# <---- thats the laptop i have, but i cant find the wireless chipset model anywhere03:51
DragnslcrIf they aren't in the repository, there's nothing you can do to change that03:51
DragnslcrWell, short of taking over as the maintainer03:51
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DragnslcrYou can install them manually if you really want to03:51
Darkkishpidgin looks nice03:51
DragnslcrIt's pretty good03:52
DarkkishDragnslcr: i hate installing things manually03:52
Darkkishi have no idea how to do it properly03:52
DragnslcrCouple things it does better than Kopete, but Gaim's been around a lot longer03:52
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DragnslcrI would guess that within a year or two Kopete will be as good as Pidgin, if not better03:53
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MinatakuYeah, you have to get the debs from them and such03:54
MinatakuBecause Ubuntu handles the repositories in a rather stupid manner03:54
Darkrift411damnit03:54
Darkrift411this sucks03:54
AresilekHow do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?03:54
MinatakuYou know what else sucks? Vacuum cleaners.03:54
Darkrift411and space!03:55
Darkrift411space sucks hard03:55
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sthompson oops03:56
Darkkishhttp://shortbrain.org/vinc-files/debs/im/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb03:56
Darkkishk now that i dl'd the deb03:57
Darkkishwhat do i do?03:57
Darkrift411another thing that bothers me, when i download the drivers from compaq, i get bcmwl6, but all the tutorials say use bcmwl503:57
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Darkrift411:S :(03:57
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Darkkishwq03:57
Darkkishew*03:57
Darkkishcompaq >_>03:57
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AresilekHow do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?03:58
Darkkishwhat do i do with a deb file?03:59
Darkrift411omfg dude04:00
Darkkishoh04:00
Darkkishnvm04:00
Darkkishneat04:00
Darkkishdude I'm new, don't be an ass lol04:00
Darkrift411apparently nobody here knows04:00
Darkrift411dont keep asking the same thing every 15 lines04:00
Darkrift411either wait for a response or word it differently04:00
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Darkrift411not you Darkkish, im new too04:00
Darkrift411lol04:01
Darkrift411talking about the guy wanting autorun04:01
Darkkishoh04:01
Darkkishokay04:01
Darkkishi thought you were going a little nuts on me there :p04:01
Darkkishlol04:01
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Darkrift411i hate repeating questions like that04:01
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Darkkishhmm04:02
Darkkishso there is no trick to installing a deb right? Just right click, install deb?04:02
eljefecole and Darkrift -sorry guys i got hung up, cannot work right now04:02
Darkrift411not a problem eljefe04:02
eljefeyes :)04:02
eljefeok bye04:02
Darkrift411others have been helpfull04:02
Darkrift411ty04:02
eljefecool04:02
Darkkishi can't find it using katapault or my menu04:02
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jttdpkg -i  filename.deb  installs  .deb pkg04:03
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Darkkishdpg: error04:04
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jason_has anyone used Envy to install nvidia/ati drivers before?04:05
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nosrednaekimDarkkish: hey... did everything work with your wireles?04:06
Darkkishnosrednaekim: that was Qb_Master's wireless and my current assumption is no not yet04:06
Darkkishlol04:06
Darkkishnosrednaekim: I'm getting dpkg errors04:06
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nosrednaekimqb_master's?04:07
ray_hello04:07
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nosrednaekimhello04:08
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coffeefoam<nosrednaekim>  where are you from04:09
Darkkish!pastebin04:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:10
AresilekHow do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?04:10
nosrednaekimcoffeefoam: umm why?04:11
Darkkishhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24527/ i get this when trying to do dpkg04:11
Darkrift411ok, back to kubuntu to try some more crap04:12
Darkrift411afk a bit04:12
coffeefoamwhat is umm mean?04:12
coffeefoamsorry i can't understant what you said, nosrednaekim.04:12
nosrednaekimcoffeefoam: why do you want to know?04:13
nosrednaekimDarkkish: you are trying to overwrite a file owned by GAIM I beleive... do you have GAIM installed?04:13
Darkkishum yeah.04:14
Darkkishshould I uninstall it?04:14
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coffeefoamI am curious about you. If you don't tell with me , it dosen't matter. sorry04:15
nosrednaekimcoffeefoam: ok.. i'm in the USA.04:15
nosrednaekimDarkkish: yeah.04:15
coffeefoamkubuntu is very clearly, I like it.04:15
nosrednaekimcoffeefoam: just wondering.04:15
Darkkishnosrednaekim: still getting the error.04:16
coffeefoamnosrednaekim i'm in the China04:16
Darkkishum04:16
nosrednaekimDarkkish: look around for a "nm"04:16
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coffeefoam do you work with ubuntu, nosrednaekim?04:17
nosrednaekimcoffeefoam: not really.04:17
Darkkishnosrednaekim: how am i supposed to use dpkg?04:17
nosrednaekimDarkkish: "sudo dpkg -i <package  file>04:18
nosrednaekimDarkkish: I think there is a way to force though.04:18
Darkkishoh.04:18
Darkkishlol04:18
Darkkishi'm stupid04:18
nosrednaekimi'm looking for where nm comes from.04:18
coffeefoamyou can "man dpkg", read this document for you04:19
Darkkishno i know what my problem is04:19
Darkkishthanks04:19
Darkkishwait nope04:19
Darkkishi was wrong04:19
coffeefoamnosrednaekim, "no really" what thats mean?04:19
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nosrednaekimDarkkish: where did you get this pidgin deb from?04:20
Darkkishuh04:21
Darkkishsome website >_>04:21
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Darkkishi right clicked and tried installing04:21
nosrednaekimDarkkish: yeah.....what website?04:21
Darkkishjust in the menu04:21
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Darkkishidk if that worked or not04:21
nosrednaekimcoffeefoam: i'm not.04:21
Darkkishnope it didn't04:21
Darkkishokay04:21
Darkkishhttp://www.letshaveadream.com/2007/05/16/pidgin-deb-package/04:22
coffeefoamnosrednaekim, do you like perl?04:22
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darkriftwhen all else fails04:23
darkriftgo wired, go wired04:23
darkriftits your birfday04:23
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Darkkish2right on :p04:24
darkriftanyone here really good with ndiswrapper?04:24
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darkriftim still having a hell of a time04:24
Darkkish2not at all04:24
Darkkish2but04:24
Darkkish2there is a gui  utility for it04:24
mike_Beryl runs nice in Kubuntu04:24
darkriftwhen i do ndiswrapper -l (list)04:24
Darkkish2idk if it works04:24
darkrifti get this04:24
darkriftbcmwl6 : driver installed04:24
darkrift        device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)04:24
Darkkish2dude04:24
Darkkish2use bwlcutter04:24
Darkkish2or w/e it's called bcmcutter or something04:24
Darkkish2it works way better04:24
darkriftim guessing that means there is a second driver already loaded causing probs04:24
darkriftfwcutter04:24
darkriftand i tried it04:24
tulytt04:24
darkriftmy internet was limted to 10k04:24
Darkkish2worked for me >_> after quiet a hard time04:25
Darkkish2oh04:25
darkriftand im on a 10mb connection04:25
darkriftwith 54mb wifi :S04:25
darkriftbottleneck was definatly the drivers04:25
Darkkish2your internet isn't that fast04:25
Darkkish2lol04:25
darkriftyes it is04:25
Darkkish2orly?04:25
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Darkkish2have you ever downloaded something at >10mb/s04:25
nosrednaekimdarkrift: did you blacklist your bcm module?04:26
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Darkkishnosrednaekim: http://www.letshaveadream.com/2007/05/16/pidgin-deb-package/ that is the website04:26
nosrednaekimdarkrift: run this "lsmod | grep bcm"04:26
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nosrednaekimDarkkish: well as you can see... this is his first debian package.04:27
Darkkishwhat? lol04:28
nosrednaekimDarkkish: not very professional.. I wouldn't use it/04:28
Darkkishoh04:28
Darkkishyeah okay04:28
nosrednaekimlook around some more.. I saw one around somewhere.04:28
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Darkkish2i found a repo04:29
Darkkish2should i try that?04:29
darkrift_damnit04:29
darkrift_friggen lag04:29
darkrift_go for it04:29
darkrift_you only live once04:29
Aresilekdwidmann: if your still here I got it to work04:29
nosrednaekimDarkkish: where?04:30
coffeefoamjoin04:30
Darkkishhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43723904:30
Darkkishi don't know how to add the key thing04:30
dwidmannAresilek: ooooh, do tell04:30
Aresilekthe command i used was: wxvlc -f dvd:///dev/scd0 %u04:31
dwidmannDarkkish: download the key, then "sudo apt-key add FILE"04:31
Aresilekdwidmann:  the command i used was: wxvlc -f dvd:///dev/scd0 %u04:31
dwidmannAresilek: ah, so adding %u to the end made it work04:32
Aresilekyup :-)04:32
dwidmannAresilek: thanks for the discovery, I owe you one :)04:32
Aresilekdwidmann: i think vlc just ignores the extra arguments :-P04:32
dwidmannAresilek: hmm, might04:33
Aresilekdwidmann: nah, u don't owe me anything :-)04:33
darkrift_oh shit04:33
darkrift_i just ran adept to upgrade all the upgradeable stuff04:33
darkrift_and all of the suden i get a warning04:33
darkrift_"Power manager" Your battery has been removed!04:34
darkrift_power remaining 0%04:34
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faidillingerre04:36
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darkrift_ok04:37
darkrift_so im still nowhere :(04:37
darkrift_and now my battery isnt detected :)(004:37
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crackhead_25question: how do i test my printer to see if it's working in its current setup on kubuntu? it was working yesterday, but now when i click print, it seems to send the signal, but the printer doesn't respond or print..04:39
crackhead_25anyone know why that might be, as well?04:40
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crackhead_25was there a recent cups update or something which might have messed things up?04:40
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crackhead_25how could i roll back any changes of the last week in cups or something?04:40
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darkrift_ok04:41
darkrift_who here knows how to completely remove a device04:41
darkrift_and all its drivers04:41
Darkkish2hey i like pidgen04:41
darkrift_i wanna start all over with my wifi care04:42
darkrift_card*04:42
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stumpleitI am having big problems getting my ATI radeon 1600 that is in my macbook pro to work, could someone maybe send me a link or some advice?04:42
jontecdark_rift_: there should be a command with ndiswrapper to uninstall the module...04:43
jontecdark_rift_: I installed my card with the ndiswrapper tarballs from the official site... (I try not to use the ones with ubuntu, though they could work fine)04:44
darkrift_im talking more then just ndiswrapper04:44
darkrift_i have fwcutter04:44
jontecdarkrift_: well, yeah, but this is a first step04:44
jontecdarkrift_: I have no idea what fwcutter is04:44
darkrift_it takes the firmware from windows drivers04:45
darkrift_it was on a few tuts04:45
stumpleitI am having big problems getting my ATI radeon 1600 that is in my macbook pro to work, could someone maybe send me a link or some advice?04:46
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jontechmm... I've never used it (obviously)... I think that you have to remove the kernel modules that were created for your card... but I can talk in that depth04:47
jontecif no one else can help you here ask it in #ubuntu04:47
jontec'should be more people watching04:48
stumpleitno one is answering there either lol04:48
intelikeywhat when where ?04:48
jontecT_T where is everyone!?! lol.04:48
jontecyay!, that guy can probably help04:49
jontec(intellikey)04:49
jontecminus one 'l'04:49
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intelikeywho how why ?04:50
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jontecintelikey:  <stumpleit> I am having big problems getting my ATI radeon 1600 that is in my macbook pro to work, could someone maybe send me a link or some advice?04:51
ace_suares!ati04:51
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:51
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jontecintelikey:  <darkrift_> who here knows how to completely remove a device04:51
intelikey'dares a link ^04:51
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crackhead_25question: anyone know if there was a recent cups update??04:51
intelikeydarkrift_ remove a device ?     you can use modprobe -r to remove some modules...  you can power off and take the hardware out of the case      what do you mean "remove a device" ?04:53
Darkkish2pidgen keeps like dying when i click.04:53
crackhead_25question: anyone know how to roll back a recent adept update of cups which might have messed up my printing abilities??04:53
intelikeycrackhead_25 grep cups /var/log/dpkg*     should tell if there was an update04:54
intelikeycrackhead_25 you "wal-mart" to a recent version by installing the specific version...04:55
intelikeyerrr   'roll back'04:55
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stumpleitokay i have another wierd problem when i start X my mouse moves all over the place by itself how can I fix that?04:55
compilerwriterintelikey that was not fair.04:56
Dr_willisit jumps around - then settles down?04:56
intelikeythat sounds like a driver/configuration issue on the mouse.04:56
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intelikeycompilerwriter ?04:56
stumpleitDr_willis not its not settling down04:57
compilerwriterWal-Mart for roll-back.  What if crackhead had just finished a bowl?  He would have had no chance at figuring it out.04:57
Dr_willisstumpleit,  i would have to guess that your device entry for the mouse in xorg.conf is incorrect then.04:57
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intelikeycompilerwriter that's why i left the clue-by-four lying there.04:58
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intelikeyfigured it beet a troot04:59
intelikeycompilerwriter but if you're saying "don't play"  then just say "don't play" and i'll stop.05:00
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billytwowillyanybody wanna update the packages for gretl? They're pretty stale..05:01
gellioth#el-bar-del-plug05:01
compilerwriterno I am not saying don't play, but that one was a bit esoteric05:02
gellioth#kubuntu-es05:02
intelikey:)05:02
intelikeyhehhe05:02
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compilerwritercheers intelikey05:03
compilerwriternight all05:03
intelikeycheers      hehhe05:03
Darkkishhow do i switch between desktops with key commands?05:03
intelikeyis it ctrl+rrow key  ?05:04
intelikeyi think my a is dirty.05:04
intelikeyi have a dirty a     or a week pinky...05:05
Darkkishnot working for me05:05
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intelikeydarkkish    well run khotkeys and see what it's set to05:05
Darkkishguess it crashed05:06
Darkkishugh05:06
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White_LightningOk, so knetworkmanager is being a bitch. It won't list any wireless networks (I know that I'm connected, I'll get to that) and it won't let me change the manual stuff. By deleting the ESSID (for the millionth time) it finally connected to one of the local wireless networks here and I was able to log on. The problem is that A. I can't select the network I want B. It's not listing the networks that are in the building (and there are several) C. it05:11
White_Lightningwon't let me change settings the way it should and D. it's picking networks on it's own. Any ideas?05:11
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White_LightningOk, so knetworkmanager is being a bitch. It won't list any wireless networks (I know that I'm connected, I'll get to that) and it won't let me change the manual stuff. By deleting the ESSID (for the millionth time) it finally connected to one of the local wireless networks here and I was able to log on. The problem is that A. I can't select the network I want B. It's not listing the networks that are in the building (and there are several) C. it05:14
White_Lightningwon't let me change settings the way it should and D. it's picking networks on it's own. Any ideas?05:14
intelikey!wifi | steve   best i can do is point you at this.05:14
ubotusteve   best i can do is point you at this.: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:14
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intelikeyand don't repete05:14
savetheWorldits becoming sentient!  Destroy it now before it becomes self aware!05:14
tzbishophow can i install mplayerplug-in on firefox32 (ubuntu 64 amd)??05:14
White_Lightningdidn't mean to repeat I was copying it for the other chan05:14
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darkriftodd05:18
darkrifti installed beryl05:18
intelikeyjust a thought but have you tried switching channels and hitting the up arrow   in place of copy and paste ?05:18
darkriftbut its not loading :s05:18
darkrifti can change settings and themes, but noithing happens05:18
intelikey!beryl05:18
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:18
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darkrift!beryl05:27
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:27
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intelikeywell, one test would be to run something like >>> echo "$(:(){ :& ; };y)" <<< and see if it did.   it probably wont though...    and >>> grep -ie OOM /boot/config-`uname -r` <<< would much safer.05:38
intelikeyoooops  sorry channel.05:39
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Tm_Tintelikey: :p05:39
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intelikeyyeah too many things going on at one time...05:40
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darkriftanyone able to help me install teh nvidia driver ?05:41
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intelikey:(){ echo "$@" ; }05:43
intelikeycrap05:43
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intelikeydarkrift did you look at the wiki ?05:43
intelikey!ati05:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:43
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darkriftill mess around with it05:44
darkriftworst comes to worst, i reinstall :)05:44
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intelikeyoh not for a vidio driver....05:44
intelikeyreinstall for that is so... "window'ish"05:44
darkriftyeah... i wouldnt be able to fix it without help05:45
intelikeyworst case  you reload xorg05:45
darkrifti couldnt know how to do that without step by step05:45
darkriftand without x working05:45
darkrift...05:45
darkrifti installed it with adept package mgr05:45
darkriftsays its installed05:45
darkriftdo i need a reboot now?05:46
darkrifti installed nvidia-glx05:46
intelikeywithout X working you use irssi  or  BitchX and come in here for help  :)05:46
darkrifthrmmmm05:46
darkriftthanx05:46
darkriftthats good to knmow :)05:46
darkriftif it crashes05:46
darkrifthow do i get to commadn line?05:46
intelikeyah you run a glxconfig -enable   or something    and then reboot  ?05:46
intelikeyi'm not real sure.    i failed that class.  my card is not supported05:47
intelikeya command line    konsole05:47
intelikey!konsole05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
darkriftif x doesnt load though?05:47
darkrifthow do i boot to console without x05:47
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intelikeyif x doesn't load you will be in a "console"    you don't "get a command line" you login.05:48
darkrifti c05:48
darkriftcool05:48
darkrifthere goes05:48
darkriftwish me luck05:48
darkriftlol05:48
darkriftcmd not found05:48
darkriftlol05:48
intelikeyto view the console/s now.   ctrl+alt+f1  or f2 or f3...6   alt+f7  to get back to your GUI05:49
darkrifti should have RTFM05:49
darkrifto enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"05:49
intelikeythat's it.05:49
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intelikeyi had part of it right  :)05:49
darkriftnext q, how do you restart x without rebooting?05:49
darkrifti know theres a way!05:50
darkriftlol05:50
intelikeyctrl+alt+backspace05:50
intelikeyhmmm should i have told him that was the express elevator ???05:50
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darkriftugggg05:51
darkriftmy res is foooked05:51
darkriftbut it worked05:51
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darkrifti can see a difference  (not for the good soo far)05:51
intelikeyrepost    ^^^ > hmmm should i have told him that was the express elevator ???05:51
darkriftcrap05:51
darkriftnow i lost my widescreen res05:52
darkrifteverything looks slightly blurry now too05:52
haiyahhi i need help on rebuilding array on adaptec raid controller.. i got 5 harddisks of 500gb, but its in degraded mode.. i'm on linux but it just won't rebuild by itself05:53
haiyah even bought new harddisk and replace the one that is greyed out but it jus won't rebuild or no options to choose05:53
haiyahi'm on ubuntu is there anything i can do05:53
dwidmannintelikey: hehe, express elivator05:53
darkriftoh crap05:53
darkrifti ran beryl05:53
darkriftit ran without white screen of death05:53
darkriftbut now my windows dont have title bars!05:53
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haiyahwhat's ctrl-alt-esc ? how do i make the taskbar list out like in windows ctrl-alt-del ?05:55
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jriachihello05:55
dwidmannhaiyah: ctrl + alt + escape = xkill, you get the skull and crossbones cursor and any app that you click dies.05:55
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dwidmannhaiyah: to get the process list, press ctrl + escape (without alt)05:56
StErGi0shello.i have a theme *.kth how do i install it?05:56
intelikeyhaiyah khotkeys can change those things if you want.05:56
intelikey!theme05:56
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy05:56
intelikey!changethemes05:57
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.05:57
jriachican you recommend me a good irc client?  i am using kvirc, but it has some bugs :S05:57
stdinkonversation05:58
stdinit rocks05:58
intelikeydepends on your definition of "good"05:58
intelikeyi think bx is good05:58
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jriachimmm.. gui and allowing connections to diferent servers05:59
ses1959_question about cost to install power supply  I just wanted to know what it might cost to install a power supply labor?  I have the parts05:59
intelikeyok Xbx  :)05:59
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stdinjriachi: konversation will do that06:00
jriachi__i am testing konversation06:00
dwidmannses1959_: someone could charge whatever they wanted really, but it shouldn't be too much. Sure you don't wnat to do it yourself? It'd be relatively easy06:00
intelikeyses1959_ i normally get about $10 us  for that.06:00
jriachiyes, you are testing konversation, jriachi__06:00
stdintalking to yourself? :p06:01
ses1959_ok thank you i checked one place and it cost 159.00 plus parts for them06:01
jriachi__:p06:01
intelikeyfirst sign of geekism stdin06:01
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ses1959_way over then06:01
jriachi__i think i like konversation06:02
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ses1959_i work on the side and have beening trying to get a good cost table put together for repairs06:02
jriachi__(i am not a geek!)06:02
jriachi(yes, you are!)06:02
intelikeysecond sign  talks too self about self...06:02
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stdina (not so sober) geek, so support is directed to intelikey06:03
intelikeyG thanks.06:03
intelikey:)06:04
stdinkvirc is no longer maintained anyway06:04
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Liasnocan anyone help me when i start beryl-manager and try to switch to the beryl desktop i get the error checking for xcomposite exnteion : failed, how can I fix this I have a ATI Mobility Radeon X160006:04
jriachi__hmmm.. in konversation can i enter in "conference mode", i.e. not seeing the joins/parts/nick changes (or seeing them in a splited window)?06:04
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intelikeyisn't there a fork?  something like  kirc ?06:04
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stdinnot sure, I just know that kvirc is dead now06:05
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stdinbesides konversation is much better06:05
darkriftwell06:05
jriachi__hmmm... 4 months without changes in the SVN06:06
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jriachi__i found the option of no joins/parts/nick... no splited window.. but that is ok :)06:09
secleinteerhi, does anyone know how to get firefox working in vnc....i'm running kubuntu feisty06:09
intelikeyjriachi i think jriachi__  is talking to you again....06:09
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jriachi__:)06:10
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darkrift!beryl06:15
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:15
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dwidmannsecleinteer: hmm, I seem to have no trouble running apps in VNC via the programs krfb and krdc ...06:16
MilhousePunkRockhello everyone!06:16
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MilhousePunkRockI am desperately trying to enable mouse gestures for konqueror06:16
intelikeyin gshadow  " scanner:!:: "   what does "!"  do ?06:17
stdinnot a clue06:17
jriachi__disables the login06:18
intelikeyseems to be options of "!,*,x"  and i don't see what ! does...06:18
intelikeyjriachi__ ?   groups don't login do they ?06:19
jriachi__i think you can login into a group, but i dont know how06:19
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jriachi__man gpasswd06:20
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intelikeyso the passwd is only used to join the group  hmmm learn something ever month.06:22
mikes1i have the "cude" enabled in beryl,How can I add beryl pic to black sides of the cube?06:22
intelikeyused to be every day....   wonder what happened...06:22
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MilhousePunkRockmikes1: --> #beryl06:23
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intelikeyor #ubuntu-effects06:23
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intelikeyaffects06:23
intelikey!beryl06:24
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:24
intelikeye06:24
Tm_Tintelikey: here, have some coffee06:24
intelikey:)06:24
intelikeyty06:24
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MilhousePunkRockSo what about my Konqueror mouse gestures now?06:25
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MilhousePunkRockNevermind, I clicked "reset" instead of "apply" in system settings..06:29
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eljefedoes anyone know how i can test/check my hardware06:30
eljefelike a cron job or even just a program right now, or a /proc/* or /dev/* think i can cat?06:31
eljefeother than dmesg06:31
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intelikeyeljefe lshw  ?06:32
intelikeyeljefe not sure what you want.....  ?06:33
eljefewill that give me current errors/issues?06:33
intelikeyno.06:33
intelikeywhat do you want to test ?06:33
eljefei want to know if my computer has a problem since it sounds like a squeek is coming out06:33
intelikeyplease don't say "the computer"06:33
eljefelol06:33
intelikey:)06:33
darkriftok06:33
darkriftas soon as i ran beryl again, they dissapeared06:34
crackhead_25question: anyone know how to setup kubuntu to allow remote desktop sharing, i.e. my laptop connecting from another state to my desktop to see what's on the desktop?06:34
darkrifterm, wrong chan06:34
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eljefeok my computer has been making a lot of noise lately, so something is bad.  last night, my powersupply died, and i replaced it.  now i think the same sound is still present, so i want to see if some motherboard sensor notices anything.06:34
intelikeycrackhead_25 ssh vnc freenx06:34
darkriftprob a cpu fan or your hd06:35
darkrift2 main things taht make noise in there06:35
intelikeyeljefe yeah fans.06:35
darkriftdying fan can kill your cpu06:35
eljefe:( thats what i want to test, if there are such tests...06:35
darkriftcheck that fast06:35
darkriftcause a dying fan can kill a psu too06:35
intelikeyfan is #106:35
darkriftopen it and run it while its open06:35
darkriftlisten for the sound06:35
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darkriftpinpoint it06:36
hendaus_sivaji: wb06:36
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intelikeyand one can "touch the rotating fan and see if it quickly recovers it's speed or is slow and noisy"06:36
darkriftbe carefull though06:36
darkriftfans these days can get quite mean06:37
darkriftlol06:37
sivajihendaus_  what06:37
eljefei have tried, i cannot pinpoint it.  my back fan is noisy tho lately, but that seems to be a diferent noise06:37
hendaus_sivaji:  please i need you urgent06:37
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hendaus_sivaji:  i am waiting you till to finish the java installation06:38
dwidmanneljefe: try intelikeys test of touching the fan(s)06:38
eljefei did06:38
eljefespinning away06:39
intelikeyat any rate eljefe there are two types of rotating hardware.  fan and drive   fan is in open air (obviously) and normally the first to go.  some drives like a cdrom can spin in 1x mode and give some sounds  but not be at the point of failure yet.06:39
eljefeintelikey: good point on the two types of rotating...06:39
eljefemakes sense thats what i hear06:39
dwidmannThing about the hard drive failing is you could probably catch errors regarding the hard drives in dmesg06:40
eljefeok well, i believe the cpu fan to be ok, if for no other reason than i hope and one of the back case fans seems noisy otherwise.06:40
intelikeyinsert cd and access it "causing it to spin up"  see if the sound changes.06:40
eljefeok..06:40
eljefeanyone try the new SymphonyOS or the new MepisLite ?06:41
eljefeok no the sound didn't change06:41
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eljefebut sine i opened the case it seems to have diminished a lot06:41
eljefe\since06:41
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sivajihendaus_ i am playing chess here06:41
eljefesivaji: what do you need?06:42
hendaus_sivaji:  please help me coz here is midnight and i have to done java coz i want to opena website support javas06:42
eljefewhat is a 'ISO-13346 "UDF"' filesystem, and wwhy doe this Vista RC2 disk have it and we don't???06:42
sivajihendaus_ ok i will come06:43
dwidmanneljefe: UDF is the filesystem most DVDs use06:43
eljefei know but konqueror cannot open this?06:43
hendaus_sivaji:  thanx06:43
dwidmanneljefe: maybe it's not mounted properly06:43
eljefedaaang06:43
intelikeyeljefe ok.  you can use a "stethiscope" on the hd to see if the sound is from there. if you don't have one use a straw...  or small rubber tubbing. but don't bust your ear drum in ignorance... :)06:43
eljefemmm maybe, but it autoopened with konqueror/hal06:43
sivajieljefe what do u need ?06:43
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: you around06:44
eljefesivaji: nothing, sorry, thanks!06:44
dwidmanneljefe: I've had lots of trouble with that in the past though06:44
dwidmanneljefe: try mounting it manually first06:44
eljefek06:44
EtherBunnyuh.. not sure if anyone else has come across this, but for some reason mysqld starts when I come out of hibernation even though it wasn't running before.06:44
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EtherBunnyanyone know where I would look to disable that?06:45
eljefesame; a readme.txt file continging this:06:45
eljefeThis disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system06:45
eljefethat supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.06:45
eljefewhatever, i just found it from work, it may not even function06:45
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eljefedon't much care06:45
intelikeyeljefe one other thing that just came to mind, concerning the deminishing of the sound.   make sure that no wire/cable can touch a fan.  that could cause a very light whine06:45
eljefeok i gotta go to bed06:45
eljefeintelikey: yeah i looked for that last night, but thanks mate, good tips!06:46
intelikeyk06:46
hendaus_sivaji2009:  did u got my message?06:46
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eljefeg'nite all06:46
intelikeygday06:47
sivaji2009come to yahoo ple06:47
sivaji2009hendaus_06:47
hendaus_sivaji2009:  maybe i have to register to talk with you06:47
hendaus_ok06:47
sivaji2009hendaus_ that day u came06:47
intelikey!register06:47
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:47
hendaus_sivaji2009:  ok06:47
dwidmannnight folks06:47
intelikeygooday dwidmann06:48
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hendaus_sivaji2009:  i am on yahoo also06:48
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EtherBunnydoes anyone know why my mysqld starts when I come out of hibernation even though it was off before?06:59
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: slightly07:01
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: if you're busy i can bother you at some other point07:02
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ok. maybe later if you're still awake. or you can just leave me a PM and I'll reply later07:03
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: just let me know when you are free07:04
Jucatooki dokie07:04
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pulaskihello07:06
modjohello07:06
modjoummmm i need some help07:06
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pulaskimodjo: I run kubuntu feisty fawn and sometimes my sound does not work.07:06
pulaskiI have a SB Live! sound card and a microphone that works but none of my applications that provide sound do.07:07
modjoi need help too07:07
pulaskihow do you need help? modjo07:08
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modjobecause i dont know how drivers are installed on kubuntu07:08
pulaskiI can try ...hehe07:08
modjoi mean, i dont even know how repositories work07:08
modjoor what they used for07:08
pulaskiAll I know is that as far as drivers go they are all there automatically07:09
modjoi know, im a total noob (for now) but i dont know how to find a FAQ page07:09
modjothen how can i test my wireless card?07:09
modjois the only thing so far  that doesnt work07:09
pulaskias far as repositoryies go do this at the command line:07:09
pulaskisudo apt-get update07:09
modjowhat do u use repositories for?07:09
pulaskito get software and to update07:10
modjooww07:10
pulaskiwhen was the last time you updated?07:10
modjoso, thats not for hardware07:10
modjommm i havent update07:10
modjoi just intalled kubuntu07:10
modjolike 20 min ago07:10
Jucato!wireless07:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:10
Jucatomodjo: ^^^^07:10
pulaskifrom a disk?07:10
modjoyes :D07:10
Jucatopulaski: you don't need to go to the command line to use the repositories. that's what apps like Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs are for :)07:10
modjoim leaerning really fast07:11
pulaskiyes jucat you're right, there are many ways to use the repositories07:11
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Jucatomodjo: basically, a repository is an online database/repository of apps, packages, etc., that have been compiled for and tested to work on a particular Linux distribution. in this case, Ubuntu07:12
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amigoshhi07:12
pulaskitry it modjo07:13
amigoshhelloooooooooooooo07:13
modjook, so if i need to install a new driver is it supposed to happen automatically or by the use of repositories?07:13
pulaskihi amigosh07:13
EtherBunnydoes anybody now where I would go to disable mysql from starting when I resume from hibernate?07:13
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amigosheh speak spanish07:13
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amigoshor inglish07:13
Jucato!es07:13
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:13
modjoyo hablo espa;ol07:13
modjohey creo que eso es facil :D07:14
agent32424hi07:14
pulaskimodjo, your install should have recognized all hardware and provided appropriate drivers07:14
amigosh?????? que es facil07:14
amigoshmodjo07:14
pulaskiif you think you need a driver fire up adept07:14
pulaskiand search for one.07:14
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modjopense que seria facil si hubiese gnete despeirta en el canal en epsa;ol07:14
modjopero nooooo07:14
Jucato!es | amigosh07:14
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jaydeeei07:15
modjook ok ok wait07:15
agent32424agent22 hi!07:15
amigoshporque que buscas o solo quieres platicar07:15
ubotuamigosh: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:15
modjono07:15
flakeEtherBunny -you try Settings/System Admin/System Services  ?07:15
jaydeepsssssssttttttttttt07:15
modjoamosh estoy buscando como probar mi tarjeta wireless07:15
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pulaskiJucato, have you experienced problems with sound using feist fawn?07:15
jaydeeno habla english???07:15
Jucatopulaski: nope07:15
modjoyes we do07:15
jaydeehi der07:16
jaydeewer u from07:16
pulaskijucato: thanks anyway.07:16
amigoshpues usa wiriless assitant07:16
jaydeewer r u guys from07:16
modjodonde estan esos assistants?07:16
EtherBunnymy mysqld is turned off in system services and it's not set to start on boot either07:16
Jucatojaydee: this isn't a social chat room07:16
jaydeegrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh07:16
agent32424i'm from istanbul you?07:16
Jucato!topic07:16
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic07:16
jaydeei know07:16
Jucatohm.. bot is slow...07:17
amigoshen aplicaciones y te vas a la seccion de internet07:17
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pulaskimodjo, I suggest you fire up adept anyway and click the update tab then apply the updates.07:17
modjoits gonna take too long07:17
modjo:(07:17
pulaskimodjo, a new install from disk is likely to need updating.07:18
amigosho como dice pulaski actualiza07:18
jaydeejucato07:18
pulaskiwith broadband it doesn't07:18
modjoyes pulask and amigosh im updating07:18
jaydeei hav a question07:18
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JucatoEtherBunny: I'm not sure, but I thought hibernate saves the state of your computer, including programs that were running before you hibernate. so if it's running before you hibernate, it would be run when you return07:18
amigoshpero primeramente que version tienes07:18
amigoshpara saber mejor que repositorio nesesitas07:18
jaydeereg about my pc07:18
EtherBunnyIt's weird, this only happens with mysqld07:18
jaydeehelp07:19
modjommmm no se07:19
modjosoy completisimamente nuevo en esto07:19
EtherBunnyI'm not sure where the resume scripts are..07:19
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pulaskiamigosh ?07:19
amigoshok ok ok07:19
amigoshwhat pulaski07:19
amigosh????07:19
mondayhus dat agent3242407:19
modjosolo me gustaria tener la tarjeta wireless bien isntalada para empeszar a buscr mas agusto la demas informacion07:19
jussi01au!en07:20
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat07:20
mondayhus dat agent3242407:20
flakeEther - wildly guessing here, but could you have a server running that is linked to it07:20
mondayhus dat agent3242407:20
pulaskio como dice pulaski actualiza.. in engles por favor...07:20
modjook amigosh i think were being warned07:20
mondayhus dat agent3242407:20
modjomaybe next time they're gonna kick us07:20
amigoshok in inglish07:20
Jucatoamigosh: English please07:20
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amigoshok ok ok07:20
modjojajaja07:21
Jucato(sorry lagging)07:21
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modjook let this finish updateing07:21
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EtherBunnyflake: going through my processes and not seeing anything that would use mysql07:22
EtherBunnyalso, mysqld does not start when I reboot, only if I come out of hibernate.07:23
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flakeEther - you have it as off on boot-up ?07:26
EtherBunnyyep07:26
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rodrigoquien sabe del canal en espaol de ubuntu07:27
rodrigo?07:27
Jucato!es | rodrigo07:27
uboturodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:27
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hendaus_sivaji2009:  where r u07:34
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hendaus_sivaji2009:  gnight dude07:35
hendaus_goodnight all07:36
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sivaji2009hendaus_ ok07:36
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hendaus_sivaji2009:  talk to u later :))07:37
sivaji2009ok07:37
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makuseruhi, im trying to install a package, and it says it depends on another package, so i install the other package and it says it depends on the package i first tried to install, so its just going in one big circle, how can i install either packages?07:40
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intelikeyapt-get install -f07:43
makuserui did07:44
makuserui kinda figured it out, i got one package07:44
makuserubut the other says its the newest, but the program im tryin to install says it requires somthing newer07:45
makuseru!libxml207:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:45
sivaji2009use aptitude07:45
intelikey!info libxml207:45
ubotulibxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 742 kB, installed size 1436 kB07:45
intelikey!info bash07:46
ubotubash: The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.2-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1916 kB07:46
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makuseruintelikey: it says "desmume depends on libxml2 (2.6.28): however: Version of libxml2 on system is 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3."07:49
intelikeymakuseru then i guess you'll have to look for the source and build it.     personally if it requires newer than the repos have i don't mess with it.07:51
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intelikey!find desmume07:52
ubotuFound: desmume07:52
intelikey!info desmume07:53
ubotudesmume: Nintendo DS emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 956 kB07:53
intelikeymakuseru why not use that one ?07:53
makuserunever heard of it07:53
intelikey<makuseru> intelikey: it says "desmume depends on libxml2 <<<<<07:54
makuserui mean i didnt know there was one in the repos07:54
intelikey!source07:54
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html07:54
intelikeythat's not the message i wanted.07:54
intelikey!b-e07:55
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:55
intelikey                  ^07:55
makuserui got it now07:55
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v0taguzsudoman: o.O?08:04
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Chaniis there a list of apt mirroirs somewhere? I want to switch to one that's a bit closer08:07
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Chaniaha08:08
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intelikeyChani maybe on the site ?   ubuntu.com  ?08:09
intelikeyChani what is "closer" ?08:10
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Chaniintelikey: I found it on the ubuntu wiki08:11
Chanihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors08:11
intelikeyk08:11
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modjo__hello08:14
modjo__sme again08:14
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modjoasd08:14
modjohello08:14
modjoi got a question08:14
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lazaruslupinehey anyone know howto get Bluefish working w/ FTP in kubuntu? I've had it working before.08:15
lazaruslupinein other WM's08:15
lazaruslupinedoes gnome-volume-manager need to be running?08:16
jack-lazaruslupine: you're likely to need the whole gnome-vfs stuff as well08:17
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jack-lazaruslupine: but i'd recommend to switch and get used to quanta instead08:17
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jack-its as nice as bluefish, and a true kde thing08:17
secretHey guys, i have 256kbs cable internet, but i am downloading a torrent at 45kbs? can someone help me setup ktorrent?08:18
jack-you cant expect maxspeed from torrents08:18
jack-seems like nobody told you the basics08:18
secretok so 45kbs is normal?08:18
jack-yeah, actually pretty good08:18
secretthanks for your help08:18
jack-np08:18
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Chanium.08:25
Chaniattempting dist-upgrade, and..08:25
ChaniThe following packages will be automatically REMOVED: apt-index-watcher libgd2-noxpm libvolumeid0 xserver-xorg-driver-all08:25
Chaniis it a bad thing that it wants to remove that?08:25
Chanihmm, looks klike it could be ok08:26
c1|freakyuwe@loopy2:~$ apt-cache search apt-index08:26
c1|freakyuwe@loopy2:~$08:26
c1|freakythe 2 libs will probably be upgraded08:26
intelikeyChani i don't see anything that it would hurt08:27
Chaniyeah08:27
Chani1219 packages upgraded, 132 newly installed, 4 to remove and 1 not upgraded.08:28
Chaniohboy08:28
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Chaniwhere are .debs downloaded to? I got a bunch via sneakernet so that I don't have to spend forever downloading08:29
Jucato /var/cache/apt/archive/08:30
Chanisomewhre in /var iirc...08:30
Chaniah08:30
jack-no clue about apt? ;)08:30
Chanithanks08:30
jack-its ../archives btw08:30
intelikey /var/cache/apt/archives08:30
jack-but he's right08:30
Chanijack-: apt has to download things.08:30
Jucatoforgot an 's'...08:30
intelikeysorry Jucato i'm lagging just a bit08:31
JucatoI'm the one who forgot the 's'08:32
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Chaniohboy08:33
Chanisudo: unable to execute /bin/cp: Argument list too long08:33
Chanitime to learn abotu xargs08:33
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intelikeyyeah i hate those list limits...   mv and cp do that a lot for me.08:36
jack-xargs owns08:38
jack-you can even tell it how many chars/args on one line08:38
jack-once you get used to it, you dont run into insufficient limits anymore at all08:38
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intelikeyjack- hmmm yeah.  while and for loops work too08:41
jack-sure :)08:41
jack-but xargs is one of the tools i love most08:42
jack-hehe08:42
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jack-np to smack a lot of sophisticated jobs into a pretty short bash line08:42
intelikeyseems to be in every other line i write.08:42
jack-if you know how to use cut and xargs :)08:42
jack-cut rules08:42
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intelikeydpkg -l | grep '^ii' | cut -d' ' -f3 > installed08:44
jack-yup, simple task08:45
sparrdoes kubuntu include a single-threaded gui ftp client?08:46
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JucatoKonqueror?08:46
Chanisingle-threaded?08:46
Jucato!ftp08:46
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd08:46
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jack-dpkg -L $@ |xargs file |fgrep 'Mach-O' |cut -f1 -d: |xargs otool -L 2> /dev/null |egrep -v ':$' |sort -u |sed  -e 's,[[:space:] ] +,,' \08:47
jack--e 's, .*,,'|xargs dpkg -S 2>/dev/null|cut -f1 -d:|sort -u|fgrep -vx "`tr ' ' '\n' <<<$*`"|xargs|sed -e 's; ;, ;g'08:47
jack-intelikey: check this08:47
sparrJucato: sadly, no08:47
jack-one of my most useful ones, and its just one line :)08:47
sparrChani: does everything in one ftp connection, instead of opening multiple08:47
jack-kbear ist there too08:48
jack-and iglooftp08:48
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jack-so many08:48
JucatoI think kbear has been dropped08:48
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sparrwouldnt be so bad if konqueror didnt abort a long operation as soon as the server denied an extra connection08:48
jack-sparr: want my 2 cents concerning "best ftp client ever"?08:49
jack-use lftp inside konsole08:50
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sparrmeh, ill just use ftp if i want command line08:50
jack-or if you want fxp through a gui, use kasablanca08:50
jack-lftp rocks :)08:50
jack-really08:50
jack-best client ever done, imo08:50
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Chaniurgh. with all these disconnects it'll take forever for apt to get everything08:54
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baudthiefI keep getting this when doing an apt-get update08:57
baudthiefFailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)08:57
baudthiefany ideas?08:57
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Chanibaudthief: try downloading and unzipping it yourself, see what happens09:09
baudthiefChani: appears to work, i've switched back to the australia mirror and it seems to work now09:10
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dem4bHi, could someone recomend a program for trimming an audio file?09:24
ChaniI use sox, but it's sure as hell not userfriendly09:24
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dem4bChani: are you aware of any alternatives?09:26
MilhousePunkRockdem4b: What about audacity?09:26
dem4bMilhousePunkRock: I'll try that one09:26
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KomiaPoikahi09:42
KomiaPoikahow can i restart X, forcing a reread of xorg.conf, without rebooting?09:42
MaTiAzKomiaPoika: Ctrl+alt+backspace09:43
JucatoKomiaPoika: log out first, then what MaTiAz said09:43
KomiaPoikaokay, but why can't kubuntu 7.04 display on my laptop at 1280x800, like kubuntu 6.04 could? i just copied over my old xorg.conf. and after restarting, i don't get the normal 1280x800 display...09:46
KomiaPoika6.06*09:46
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SilentDis!mp309:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:47
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KomiaPoikaok i found: 915resolution10:15
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jussi01aucould someone give me the command to empty the trash from the command line?10:18
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secretanyone here too help?10:19
intelikeymaybe10:19
secretwould you know how I can get rid of the  toolbar on my firefox browser, it's a search toolbar thing10:19
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secret?10:19
secretI have the address bar, then next too it is a tool bar10:19
secretyou know?10:20
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intelikeyno.    look in the pull down menu   if it's not there   i have no clue.10:20
secretsearch bar i mean10:20
intelikeyi don't use ff    don't like it.10:20
secretwhat do you use?10:21
intelikeyff is however the default on ubuntu  so   you can ask in #ubuntu  if you want.10:21
secretcurious :D...10:21
intelikeyelinks10:21
secretkubuntu10:21
secretok thanks10:21
intelikeynp.10:21
pagjussi01au, something like rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/  maybe?10:21
intelikeysudo that and it might work10:22
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jussi01aupag: thanks10:22
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krautmoin10:33
intelikeykraut10:34
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krautintelikey10:35
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zerocoolHI10:36
intelikeyzerocool10:36
zerocoolY?10:37
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intelikeyanybody like bash scripts ?10:39
KomiaPoikai  do10:40
KomiaPoikascripts rock my world10:40
JucatoI guess people in #bash (or is it ##bash ?)love those10:40
intelikey#bash10:40
KomiaPoikayes10:41
KomiaPoikaboy these guys are good10:41
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37146   tell me what's wrong with that one10:41
KomiaPoikaif you ask nicely they help you out writing scripts worth two hours a consultant would charge10:41
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intelikeyhehe yeah i started to try to learn perl,  went to  #perl and ask one simple Q  and got the  "pay us and we'll help, else get lost" spill     so i stuck with bash10:43
eagles0513875how do i setup a mysql server10:44
intelikeysame kind of floks seem to hang in #debian too10:44
kumamotoanyone use kate for developing apps10:44
intelikeykumamoto i would think that most would use  kdevelop  or vim    seems to be the norm.10:44
intelikeyeagles0513875 i can point you at the infonode the bot has but that's all i can do there10:45
Jucatoalthough you'd be surprise at how many kde devs actually just use kate | emacs | vim :)10:45
Jucato!lamp10:45
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:45
ardchoillekate rocks!10:46
ardchoilleI use it for everything10:46
intelikeyJucato yes   vim   very common10:46
JucatoI use kate for almost everything except what I don't use a text editor for :)10:46
kumamotoI was just wondering if kate has the capabilities of editing a file while still on a remote server using say 'Open Url' sort of thing10:46
Jucatokumamoto: um.. yes... using sftp:/ fish:/, etc10:47
Jucatoit's possible, not through the app, but through KDE"s kioslaves10:47
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ardchoillekumamoto: I use kate to edit files which are on my web hosts server, so I know it can do remote file editing via drag & drop.10:47
ewahello10:47
intelikeythat would be using  konqueror not kate    right ?10:48
Jucatodrag from konqi to kate? *shrugs*10:48
ardchoilleAh, yes, intelikey.. I ftp to the location and then d&d files to kate10:48
kumamotodon't know I haven't seen any sftp or fish protocol on my kate maybe I will have to install some modules for that right?10:48
Jucatointelikey: yep, drag and drop :)10:49
Jucatokumamoto: no10:49
Jucatothose protocols are available for all KDE apps10:49
Jucatoyou just type it in the location bar of the File dialog10:49
ardchoillekumamoto: just type the ftp address into konqueror file manager, then drag & drop the files into kate10:49
Jucatokumamoto: or you can do ardchoille's way, which is easier10:50
ardchoilleI found that out by accident, actually.10:50
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eagles0513875that will work inteliey10:51
eagles0513875!mysql10:51
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:51
kumamotoso going drag and drop both ways before and after editing10:51
Jucatoit does sound logical though... can't say why I haven't thought about it...10:51
Jucatokumamoto: er no...10:52
ardchoillekumamoto: Actually, you can just save the file in kate and it's taken care of.10:52
kumamotook I guess I will play around with it some more and see if I can it to work the way I want it to work.10:52
Jucatokumamoto: kioslaves, particularly sftp:/, ftp:/, fish:/ ,etc. allow you to access remote files as if they were local files.10:52
ardchoilledrag the file into kate, edit as needed, click File->Save ( in kate) and th file is saved on the remote server.10:52
intelikeydo you have to d&d or can you just click edit ?10:53
kumamotoI know I have kioslaves installed but I will double check10:54
Jucatowell, depends on the file. if it's an .html file, it doesn't open in kate :)10:54
kumamotowhat no html in kate not good10:54
intelikeycan if you right click and select10:54
Jucatokumamoto: I was replying to intelikey. not to you10:54
eagles0513875!kioslaves10:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kioslaves - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:54
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ardchoilleintelikey: You can click edit too, yes10:55
Jucatohttp://osdir.com/Article2159.phtml <--- short article about kioslaves10:55
intelikeyardchoille KOLD !  :)10:56
kumamotosorry Jucato didn't mean to butt in10:56
intelikeycold would be a little cooler than cool wouldn't  ?10:56
ardchoilleJucato: Ah, thanks for that url10:56
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ardchoilleintelikey: lol, sure :)10:56
Jucatoit's an old one though10:56
Jucatoother kioslaves to look into would be man:/, info:/, help:/ and apt:/ (only on Kubuntu) and sysinfo:/ (formerly only on suse)10:57
mattsqzdear god, ubuntu has come a long way since version 5 ;)10:57
Jucatowith a 6-month release schedule? I'd be surprised if it didn't :)10:57
intelikeywould you believe it's possable to use  for Q in /dir/* ;do sleep 3 ;pastebin.script $Q ;done   the server doesn't se it as spam....   ?10:58
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ardchoilleJucato: Actually, I have installed a few service menus for konqueror, so I have some cool options in the "Actions" context menu and I have edited the file associations to add kate to the list of apps to open .html files. So, opening html files in kate from a remote server is easy.10:59
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Jucatoardchoille: I was saying that simple left-click on an .html file wouldn't open it in kate, at least not by default11:00
ardchoilleIf anyone is interested in more service menu options:  http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=28711:00
Jucatoof course you can always mod, but that's not the default anyway11:00
ardchoilleJucato: Af, true11:01
ardchoille*Ah11:01
intelikeyJucato right.  default action would be view in current window11:01
mike_Greets, everyone...11:01
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Jucato:)11:02
MartyMcFlyis it possible to have gizmo or skype open while listening to music?11:03
mike_Is there anything in my home folder that could possibly be hardware-dependent? I'm thinking of copying it from one machine to another, just wondering if this could cause any problems.11:03
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MartyMcFlyI keep getting errors about audio devices not being available when I open gizmo or skype while listening to music11:03
Jucatocurrent window/tab *and* as a web page (using khtml), not an embedded katepart11:03
intelikeymike_ no but it's all $UID dependant.11:03
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intelikeymike_ that is "if the UID is not the same on both systems you won't own it. if permissions are preserved....11:05
intelikeythus you'll need to 'own your home' on that system"11:06
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mike_Ok... Am I best off copying over the network, as I presume copying from a CD wouldn't preserve read/write permissions?11:08
intelikeymike depends on how you do that.  and as to network -vs- cd   depends on which you prefer.     you mentioned "a CD" so i'll assume it would fit there.   tar -czf backup-home.gtz ~/    <<< would preserve all permissions whether you use network or cd to move it.11:10
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intelikeyJucato who's the windy'ist now days ?    i've blabbered a lot in here     did i win ?11:13
KomiaPoikawhat package do i need to install to let firefox access web video streams?11:13
Jucatointelikey: wasn't really counting :)11:14
intelikeyJucato talking about that page you pointed at the other day with the stats...11:14
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mike_intelikey: Thanks a LOT! That command will save me from a ton of grief in the future. Never thought of doing that, as obvious as it should've been.11:15
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intelikeymike_ heh  yeah  it's the "should be obvious" ones that we always miss...    "if it was a snake it would bite you"  kind of thing....11:16
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Jucatointelikey: someone just showed me that page that day and completely forgot about it afterwards11:18
intelikey:)11:18
intelikeyJucato and you show'd me and i did the same.11:18
intelikeymath script    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37247    just a front end for bc really.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37247   example:   math '(12^3 + 88) / 2'11:20
intelikey(12^3 + 88) / 2 = 90811:20
intelikeywell i'm gone fellas     have a great big one today and a better one tomarrow.      and peace be with ya.11:22
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mike_KomiaPoika: I personally use "flashplugin-nonfree" from Trevino's repository, although I'm sure there are other, more "official" ways to get it.11:25
mike_KomiaPoika: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/index.html11:26
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faidillingerre11:27
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mike_KomiaPoika: Oh, streaming video. Err, umm... You would actually want "mozilla-mplayer", which I believe is also in Trevino's repository.11:28
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Jucato!info mozilla-mplayer11:38
ubotumozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB11:38
Jucatois in our own repositories11:38
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KomiaPoikamike_: yes, that fixed it, thanks11:41
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mike_No problem11:47
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mike_Sorry for the mix-up, Jucato. Been so long since I was only using the official reposositories. :-)11:48
mikkaelhow do i remove a package with all its dependencies ? i installed ubuntustudio-desktop, and now i want to remove it and everything that got installed by this meta11:49
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ardchoillemikkael: sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove package11:51
mikkaeli did remove ubuntustudio-desktop, but if i do a apt-get auroremove it does remove npthing more :/11:52
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KomiaPoikahow can i install vmware server11:58
ardchoille!vmware11:59
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers11:59
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KomiaPoikaworkstation6 is not free :(12:02
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nahemahi enybudy know how to install a usb modem huawei smartax mt882?12:11
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leotrhi all! i installed oooqs package but it hangs my computer and there are many soffice.bin processes run...  how can i preload openoffice to make it launching faster?12:39
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ilijavk!help adept add CD-Rom as repositori12:41
ilijavk!help adept12:41
ilijavk!help adept12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about help adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
ilijavkhow to add cd-rom as to repositori list12:42
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ilijavkhow to add cd-rom as to repositori list adept-menage repository ??12:43
ilijavkHelp please12:43
ilijavkKubuntu 6.06 how to add cd-rom to repository list: adept->menage_repository ??12:45
sivajiilijavk try #ubuntu12:46
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sivaji!shockwave12:47
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave12:47
ilijavksivaji thanks12:48
sivajii cant play any online games because most of the games are shockwave based ple help me12:48
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Jucatoilijavk: try "sudo apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom" or /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1, wherever the CD is mounted12:48
sivajii cant install shockwave ple help me12:49
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Jucatosivaji: try to install "flashplugin-nonfree"12:49
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sivajiJucato ok12:50
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miguel_Hi12:51
sivajiJucato flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.12:51
Jucatosivaji: ah ok... no idea anymore. try the link that the bot gave12:51
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miguel_Alquien puede ayudarme?12:52
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ilijavk<Jucato> ilijavk: try "sudo apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom" THANKS it works12:52
miguel_Tengo un problema con virtual box no puedo restarurar la ventana despues de hacer un fullscreen12:52
^RiaN^ilijavk: how to format a flash disk12:52
miguel_anyone from spain?12:54
Jucato!es | miguel_12:54
ubotumiguel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:54
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^RiaN^!format12:54
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:54
miguel_ok, thanks12:54
ubuntu__Hello can anybody hear me?12:54
sivajiubuntu__ ya12:55
Chaniwhy can't apt do merging of config files like gentoo's etc-update? anyone know hte name of the tool that does such merging?12:55
ubuntu__um, I'm using live cd12:56
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JucatoChani: afaik, apt automatically overwrites system config files. although it doesn't touch user config files12:56
^RiaN^anybody here know how to format a removable drive12:56
ChaniJucato: no, not if you've modified them.12:57
ubuntu__And I i have the 32bit cd, it works fine, but I think my computer is 64-bit, and when i run 64-bit it doesn't display any graphics. Is there a way to be sure wheter computer is 32 or 64 bit?12:57
ChaniJucato: I've got a modified config file, I want some stuff from my version and some from the new version and I see no good reason why I should have to save a copy of my old one and combine them manually.12:57
sivaji ubuntu__     uanme  -p12:57
ubuntu__should i write "uanme -p" in terminal?12:58
JucatoChani: not an expert on apt, I'm afraid. you could try poking in #debian if you're brave enough :)12:58
sivajiubuntu__ yes12:58
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ubuntu__how do i start terminal in kubuntu (i only used ubuntu :p)12:58
sivaji alt+f2  then type konsole12:59
ubuntu__found it :)12:59
ChaniJucato: I'd rather try #gentoo first :)12:59
ubuntu__uanme command not found :?12:59
Chaniuname12:59
Jucatolol12:59
Chanitypo12:59
Jucatogood luck :)12:59
ubuntu__it just says "unknown" ...01:00
sivajiubuntu__ sorry01:00
ubuntu__should i use "sudo" first?01:00
sivaji   ubuntu__  leave it i too got same output for that commnad  no01:01
ubuntu__ok, but is my system 32bit if 32bit Live cd works fine?01:02
ubuntu__since there is a bumpersticker on my computer saying "AMD 64 LIVE!"01:02
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sivajiubuntu__ 64bit pc can support both 32bit and 64bit kubuntu01:02
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ubuntu__sivaji - oh....01:03
pepe__anyone can give me an advice?01:03
pepe__how to improve battery management!01:03
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sivajiubuntu__ installing 32bit os in 64bit computer provides better performance for multimedia01:04
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ubuntu__interestin... what is the downside?01:04
ubuntu__Can QTparted create NTFS drives, or can GParted? or has evil MS copyrighted does?01:05
Chani#gentoo wins01:05
Chanilinux can barely read NTFS. the drivers for kinda-sorta writing bits of things are not considered stable01:06
Chaniubuntu__: basically, don't use NTFS. it must be nasty if people still ahven't figured out how to read it01:06
Chanier. s/read/write01:06
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ubuntu__Chanie - ntfs write and read is stable, check ntfs-3g01:07
sivajiChani ya u can read and write01:07
Chanireally?01:07
ubuntu__yes01:08
Chaniguess I haven't paid attention for a few years01:08
ubuntu__!ntfs-3g01:08
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:08
Chaniso if it's stable, why's it not being used by default?01:08
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Chanipepe__: are you using an intel processor?01:08
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ubuntu__hmmm... I'm not sure if it is legal for the Open source community to create them, since maybe M$ have copyrighted them or something (just guess)01:09
faidillingerntfs sucks01:09
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ubuntu__yea, that too01:09
faidillinger;)01:09
Chaniubuntu__: patents01:09
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sivajiis there any way to access ext2 partition in windows01:11
faidillingeryes01:11
sivajifaidillinger how?01:12
sercik_hi smb4k has inseterd eroor in my sudoers file, and now i can't use sudo anymore! i'm not good in sudoers syntax someone can send me a sudoers file?01:12
faidillingerby installing the ext2 driver01:12
ubuntu__what about ext3?01:12
Jucatoyes01:12
ubuntu__how?01:12
faidillingersivaji: visit www.fs-driver.org/01:12
sercik_jucato Hi!01:13
Jucatohi!01:13
sercik_can you send me your soduers?01:13
faidillingerubuntu_ : i think you can even mount an ext3 partition in windows, since it should be readable as an ext201:13
sercik_sudoers01:13
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sercik_Jucato: or i can send mine and you can correct errors?01:14
poseidonhello01:14
elbingwith jackd in realtime mode, I need lowlatency kernel or there is another way?01:15
Jucatosercik_: sudoers file? hold on01:15
sercik_i can't read it!01:15
sercik_yes please!01:15
Jucatosercik_: what do you mean?01:15
faidillingeru need to be root sercik_ to read it01:15
sercik_smb4k have damadeg my sudoers file01:15
sercik_and now i can't anymore become root01:15
sercik_because of a syntax error01:16
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sercik_but i'm not good with syntax :)01:16
pepe__Chani: yep, using centrino one!01:16
faidillingersercik, you probably cant sudo anymore, or even su, but i doubt you cannot login as root anymore.01:16
ubuntu__so, can vista use that read ext3 drivers 2?01:16
Jucatosercik_: not even through booting to Recovery Mode in GRUB?01:16
sercik_if someone can send me sudoers file.. i start with failsafe and overwrite01:17
sivaji how to format a pen drive in kubuntu01:17
Chanipepe__: google for a program called powertop01:17
pepe__thx!01:17
ubuntu__sivaji - open drive? a mounted drive? unmount it first :p01:17
elbingubuntu_: you can try "XP compatibility mode"01:17
Jucatosercik_: http://rafb.net/p/njfGXU83.html01:18
sercik_jucato i need to correct errors in sudoers file!01:18
sercik_ah ok!01:18
Chanisivaji: what exactly do you mean by format?01:18
elbingbut life is too complicated with vista01:18
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sercik_thank you now i will restart and correct error! thank you jucato!01:19
Jucatosercik_: good luck01:19
Jucatosercik_: remember to use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers01:19
sivajiChani formatting means erasing the files and folder ,defining partition01:20
Jucatoeek too late01:20
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Chanisivaji: for editing partitions I use cfdisk. for creating the filesystems on new partitions, it depends on what type you want (fat, ext3, etc)01:23
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tahsincan anyone teach me how to get beryl ?01:24
Chanisivaji: for a usb disk, you probably want fat32.. I can't remember the name of the tool for formatting that. probably starts with mk and ends with fs01:24
makuseruwhats the command to run an executable in the terminal?01:24
Jucato!beryl | tahsin01:24
ubotutahsin: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:24
Jucatomakuseru: what kind of executable?01:24
makuseruit just says executable01:24
Dragnslcrmakuseru- usually by just typing the name01:25
Jucato(well, that depends on where the executable is, what kind it is, etc)01:25
DragnslcrIf you're in the same directory, you probably need to use ./name01:25
makuseruits not an installed program though, its somthing i just downloaded01:25
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DragnslcrThat doesn't change how you run executables01:26
serciksolced!!01:26
Jucatousually, as Dragnslcr said, you use ./executable_name01:26
serciksolved! thanks!01:26
Jucatosercik: kool01:26
sercikwas simple01:26
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sercikit is possible to put my backgrounds on kdm login?01:27
sercikkdm login uses the original backgrounf of kubuntu!01:27
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sercikwhere are located? kdm themes??01:28
serciki can create myself01:28
makuserusercik: what is your native language?01:29
sivajiwhat is the command to list all partition01:29
sercikitalian!01:29
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sercikmy english is very bad??01:29
elbingnot really, mine is worse :p01:30
sercikmakuseru: ??01:30
elbing(spain)01:30
makuserusercik: no its not bad, i was just curious01:30
sercikand yours?01:31
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makuseruamerica01:31
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makuserui could just tell english wasnt your native language01:31
serciki have found the folder myself!01:32
makuseru!zlib01:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zlib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:32
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sercikhey!01:33
sivajisercik press alt+f2 and type kcontrol01:33
sercikno no i want to create myself01:33
sercikbecause i want to put my wallpapers01:33
makuserugoogle how to make KDM themes01:33
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ChaniI've got an annoying minor problem with my dist-upgrade01:45
Chani  linux-386: Depends: linux-image-386 (= 2.6.20.15.14) but 2.6.20.16.28.1 is installed.01:45
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Chanialso,  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.20-15-386; however: Package linux-image-2.6.20-15-386 is not configured yet.01:46
Chanibut that might be because I messed up grub01:46
ChaniI don't want kubuntu handing grub stuff anyways01:47
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JuJuBeeanybody know which file stores the mac address of network adapters ?01:47
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ubuntu__if i run live cd, can i get fdisk workinng on Kubuntu?01:48
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JuJuBeeAfter dd, I need to fix .01:48
ChaniJuJuBee: no, I usualy read them from ifconfig01:48
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ubuntu__"Adept Manager" is synaptic but for Kubuntu right?01:48
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Chaniubuntu__: yeah01:48
JuJuBeemy adapters are incorrect, ra2 & ra3 instead of ra0 and ra1...01:49
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Chanium, I dunno if the livecd includes fdisk01:49
nosrednaekimChani: install linux-resicted-modules -2.6.20.1601:49
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JuJuBeeI just did a dd and I think the mac address is stored in a file somewhere..01:49
KomiaPoikais the howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091 applicable to 7.04?01:49
ChaniI've always used a knoppix livecd for partitioning01:49
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JuJuBeeI seem to recall an issue like this last year, but cant rememver how I fixed it.01:49
Chaninosrednaekim: iirc that's one of the ones that fails because of similar errors01:49
nosrednaekimChani: thats odd...01:50
nosrednaekimis everything working correctly?01:50
sivaji!drm01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
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sivajiJuJuBee  u r system is alright ?01:52
JuJuBeeReinstalled everything.  Now I am cloning the HD for the other 6 workstations...01:52
Chaninosrednaekim: http://pastebin.ca/54744101:52
ChaniI wouldn't know if it's working, I haven't copied anything into the real boot partition yet01:53
JuJuBeeI need to change the wireless adapters somehow.... They are set wrong (due to cloning I think.)  I think the MAC address is stored in a file somewhere.01:53
Chanikubuntu gets its own little sandbox because I don't like the way it does grub01:53
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nosrednaekimwait... are you in chroot?01:53
Chanino01:54
Chanibut my proper /boot is unmounted01:54
nosrednaekimits because It can't see your grub.01:54
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sc0tchIs it me or is the wireless configuration and the default network managers in Kubuntu 7.04 still totally lacking. No WPA as far as I can tell. (tried both the installed knetwork manager and wireless assistant).01:55
Chaniyes. I don't want kubuntu touching my MBR01:55
Chanibut I don't know of a nice way of telling it to leave it alone01:55
Chaniso I just kinda broke it :)01:56
nosrednaekimsc0tch: knetwork manager can  do WPA01:58
Chanimaybe if I replaced the grub command with something that doesn't do anything01:58
nosrednaekimChani: well.. it ain't borke..01:58
nosrednaekimChani: lol.. now that  might mess things up..01:58
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nosrednaekimwhy don't you like kubuntu's grub? what does it do different?01:58
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Chaniit changed a ton of things when I upgraded to edgy01:59
Chaniput in some UUID stuff that broke hibernation01:59
ChaniI think there was something else, but I've forgotten now01:59
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Chanibasically I want gentoo to be in charge of grub. I trust it more02:00
sc0tchnosrednaekim: hmm, could it be adpatoer/driver issue, have knetwork running with dlinkG122 USB g adaptor, only lists WEP as encryption option, (also signal stregnth is only one bar being 5 feet for AP.) (Wireless assistant at least shows 5 starts for strength, and Windows works normally with excellent signal strength)02:00
nosrednaekimsc0tch: ah...are you using ndiswrapper02:02
Chaniheh. as to the unmet dependencies, I ran it a few more times. got everything but the kernel sorted out, then it wanted to downgrade one thing, then it decided to remove the other and re-upgrade02:02
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ubuntu__can someone help me install kubuntu? im on live cd02:02
nosrednaekimChani: gotcha..... umm... lets see... everytime you mess with the grub, chroot into gentoo and redo the grub install there.02:02
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nosrednaekimubuntu_: sure02:03
ubuntu__ok, the thing is, im in partition managin part, i made a root disk, how do i create a switch-disk?02:03
Chanihaha02:03
nosrednaekimubuntu__: do you have windows on this computer?02:03
Chaninosrednaekim: that's be silly.02:03
ubuntu__I have windows vista in this computer too02:04
nosrednaekimChani: I know...02:04
Chaninosrednaekim: I'm going to hack it so it doesn't run hte update-grub script instead] 02:04
nosrednaekimubuntu__: a switch disk?02:04
ubuntu__I dont know english name :p, its the one that they recommend to be at lest 256 MB02:05
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Chaniyay! it's blissfully ignorant :)02:05
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ubuntu__so, which location should that disk be?02:06
ubuntu__i siad that main drive is "/", but how do i do the other one?02:07
sc0tchnosrednaekim: does not appear to be, dmesg reports using a (generic) rt25 usb driver. I'm going to compile and install the serialmonkey drivers I use on another distro and try those.02:07
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DexterFhi02:07
DexterFcan anyone think of a reason why ~/.bash_aliases isn't parsed here in konsole?02:08
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sc0tchDexterF, it's commented out in .bashrc02:11
nosrednaekimubuntu02:11
ubuntu__yes?02:11
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JuJuBeeI  need to report a bug with NIS in kubuntu, where/how do I do that?02:11
nosrednaekimubuntu__: ah yeah... swap.02:11
ubuntu__oh right02:11
ubuntu__where should i say it lies?02:11
nosrednaekimmake a new partition at the end of your disk.02:12
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ubuntu__why the end?02:12
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ubuntu__ok ive done apartition02:13
ubuntu__ what now?02:13
nosrednaekimnow assign it to swap.02:13
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nosrednaekimubuntu__: it really can be anywhere02:14
ubuntu__how do i asign to swap?02:14
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ubuntu__is it "/tmp"02:14
ubuntu__?02:14
yamanhi guys any one knows how can i increase the wifi range by changing options ?02:14
Hirvinen!swap02:15
ubotuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info02:15
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White_Lightning!wifi02:15
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:15
White_Lightningcheck there yaman02:15
yamanWhite_Lightning: thanx02:16
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nosrednaekimubuntu__: no.... its called "swap" it doesn't have a partiton name02:16
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gianlucaciao a tutti02:16
ubuntu__it says destination has to start with "/"02:17
nosrednaekimubuntu__: hmmmm... when you made the new partition... it said what to format the partiton as. make it swap.02:18
Chanihmm. I guess it's time for me to reboot and see what breaks02:18
ubuntu__oh.....02:18
ubuntu__thanks!02:18
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nosrednaekimChani: lol02:20
laz_hellooooooooooooo02:20
nosrednaekimlaz_: helo02:20
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Jucatoso many o's....02:22
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lupor ahi anda todoesverso?02:23
_4strO!es | lu02:23
ubotulu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:23
luthaks...02:23
_4strO;)02:23
lusorry... thanks02:23
nosrednaekimJucato: yeah.. and then he just disappears02:24
nosrednaekim>_>02:24
Jucato:)02:24
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luanydoby knows the channel of Argentine?02:25
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BluesKajHowdy all :)02:25
luI seeking todoesverso? How I find him?02:25
nosrednaekimlu: is that a special language?02:25
nosrednaekimMorn'02:26
luhahahah, I'm not good in English?02:26
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nosrednaekimlu: do you have a registered mickname?02:26
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nosrednaekim*nickname02:26
luthanks!02:26
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lu*nickname todoesverso02:28
luups!02:28
nosrednaekimlu: are you registered?02:29
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lummmhhh02:29
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lui think... i'm a super newbie... ja02:30
ubuntu__its installed now :), thanks all who did help me, and thanks all other in (K)Ubuntu community :)02:30
luwhat must i do?02:30
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lui'm just installed kubuntu studio... my fist experience in linux02:32
luis that ok?02:32
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luwhat follows?02:32
nosrednaekimlu: restart? into linux..02:33
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lurestart? you mean shut down and login in linux?02:34
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jtmoneyanyone know why i'm getting this bug? look at the text for the openoffice shortcut -- http://jtmoney.biatches.org/bug.jpg02:37
BluesKajoilchange ..bbl02:38
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backprohhelo guys !!02:39
backprohello02:39
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nosrednaekimbackpro: hi02:39
backproi have problem with apache server/ :S02:39
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backprowhen i go to konsole02:39
backproand type apachectl status02:40
backproi find02:40
backpro                                   Not Found02:40
backpro   The requested URL /server-status was not found on this server.02:40
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backprowhat to do plz !!02:41
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jtmoneyno one? :(02:41
nosrednaekimbackpro: go to #apache02:41
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nosrednaekimjtmoney: the shadow?02:42
korobaseAny english studying software in LINUX?02:42
jtmoneynosrednaekim: yes02:42
arashguys, I'm formerly known as "ubuntu__" I've installed now02:43
sivajikorobase apt-cache search education02:43
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arashWhy can't I increase my screen to 1920*1200, I know that Vista cna do it :-/02:43
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Daisuke_Idoyou just need to reconfigure xorg02:44
nosrednaekimarash: ok cool... you in your actual linux install?02:44
nosrednaekimarash: you need the proprietary drivers.02:44
jtmoneynosrednaekim: any idea what causes that shadow thing?02:44
arashI can't do it in "systemoptions"02:45
Daisuke_Idoand saying "vista can do it" is like saying "my cousin with downs syndrome can do it"  it may be true, but it certainly isn't elegant.02:45
jtmoneyDaisuke_Ido: hah02:45
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Daisuke_Idoi'm going back to bed now :)02:45
jtmoneyvista is absolute garbage... any to think i paid to upgrade my free professional version to ultimate02:45
nosrednaekimarash: do you have an nvidia card or an ATI one?02:46
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arashI dont know :(02:48
arashCan I find out somehow?02:48
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glauco1hi02:48
sercikwould be good to execute a command as root without using the konsole02:48
glauco1I need some help02:48
glauco1I ave deleted some files on my kubuntu02:48
sercikfor example right: mouse button --> execuste as root02:48
sercikfor example right: mouse button --> execute as root02:48
glauco1but no free space it's make?02:48
gentoofan23arash: Do "sudo lspci" and look for nvidia/ati02:48
glauco1what i must do?02:49
jtmoneyor, lspci | grep nvidia02:49
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jtmoneyglauco1: which files?02:49
glauco1a tar02:49
arashalmost every line says "nvidia"02:49
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jtmoneyso there you go02:50
jtmoneyyou're lucky, btw02:50
gentoofan23Well, look for "Graphics" and if it says "nvidia" on that line you are ok.02:50
jtmoneyi have ati and it's pretty crappy02:50
jtmoneythe driver support that is02:50
gentoofan23jtmoney: He might have an ATI and anvidia motherboard02:50
BreetaiKde broke, you have to hold a key down for a LONG time to get a keypress, the repeat rate seems fine after that. Anyone have any ideas?02:50
glauco1?02:50
arashI dont find graphics line02:51
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nosrednaekimarash: what is your native language?02:52
arashSwedish on my ubuntu, though i learned Persian first02:52
glauco1boy i have delete a tar file with "canc"02:52
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glauco1but the space on hard disk is the same02:53
nosrednaekimarash: if you are more comfortable with either of those languages... you might want to go to their channels.02:53
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glauco1the trash is empty02:53
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arashnosrednaekim, lol, I'm sure noone is activ their02:53
glauco1nobody can help me?02:54
gentoofan23arash: Could you post your output from "lspci" on pastebin?02:54
nosrednaekimarash: true02:54
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arash!pastebin02:55
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:55
glauco1??02:55
arashhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24573/02:55
arashglauco1, are you using ntfs-3g?02:56
glauco1yes02:56
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gentoofan23arash: You have nvidia02:56
gentoofan2302:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0193 (rev a2)02:56
arashgo to the folder where all the first stage files lies, press ctrl+h, go to .trash~username, they lies there02:56
glauco1ok wait02:57
arashgentoofan23 , so, any chanche I can make my screen be showing 1920*1200?02:57
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gentoofan23arash: Possibly, you need to install the nvidia drivers02:58
gentoofan23!nvidia02:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:58
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gentoofan23arash: ^^02:58
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arashglauco1 - did it work?03:00
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glauco1arash- no03:04
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arashhmm03:04
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arashthe thing is, it is hidden, in nautilus it is ctrl+h, try to find some way to see hidden files in KDE explorer03:05
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glauco1i have konqueror03:05
glauco1ctrl+h don't have any effects03:05
glauco1i have make a search of file that i have delete03:06
glauco1but it isnt03:06
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JuJuBeewhat is the command line for downloading linux headers?03:07
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yRoRHi, any idea how do we set the java environement  variable JAVA_HOME ??03:08
arashglauco1  I'm not used to KDE, but you havce to make it show hidden files somehow03:09
arashI think it might be ctrl+f03:09
glauco1i try03:09
JuJuBeeglauco1 go to view menu "show hidden files"03:09
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JucatoJuJuBee: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-(whatever version you need)03:11
JuJuBeehow do I use uname -303:12
JuJuBee-r03:12
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Jucatosudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:12
JuJuBeeThanks...03:12
Jucatoor better yet, just install linux-headers-generic03:12
JuJuBeeThought I needed my version #03:12
arashglauco1 , got it working?03:12
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glauco1i'm tryng03:14
glauco1i'm not very fast03:14
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glauco1in wich folder i must press ctrl+h03:15
glauco1?03:15
arashit shouldnt be hard really, go to where you have mounted your ntfs drive, press view and take show hidden files.03:15
arashYou should not press ctrl+h03:15
arashi was mistaken03:15
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glauco1ok03:16
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arashglauco1 , got it working :)?03:19
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glauco1i still not found the hidden file03:19
glauco1it's incredible...I know03:20
arashits name is .trash~something I think03:20
arashthe "show hidden files" is checked right?03:20
glauco1yes03:21
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arashok, in which folder are you now?03:22
glauco1in /home/03:22
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arashwhere lied the file that you deleted?03:22
glauco1in /home/lib/dccrecv03:23
arashhmmm...03:23
arashI always thoought you hade deleted something from /media/hdx/blabla/, thn then hidden folder should be in /media/hdx/03:24
arashbut in this case I'm as confused03:24
glauco1 aaaaaaah03:25
glauco1no :)03:25
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arashbut your root is a ntfs?03:26
glauco1yes03:27
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glauco1maybe the problem is that I use conqueror?03:27
glauco1konqueror03:27
arashhmm, that might be it, perhaps the hidden folder .trash lies in "/" ,but I don't know03:27
arashNah, it's pretty unlikely it's  konqueror fault03:28
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KomiaPoikawhats openoffice package name for ubuntu? apt-get install openoffice.org only installs a 27kb archive!03:28
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glauco1i've also searched the /.trash folder, but nothing03:29
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arashkomiapoika , why can u use "add/remove" programs?03:29
KomiaPoikaarash: where?03:30
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KomiaPoikaoh, kde menu03:30
alesanhi what is the preferred way to install vmware?03:30
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arashkoomiapoika , i think it lies in "office" in the GNU03:31
glauco1arash03:31
arashyes?03:31
glauco1i now view the hidden files03:31
glauco1where is the .trash directory?03:31
arashI don't know, I've only had the same issue for a mounted ntfs, not a root ntfs...03:32
arashGUI*******03:32
arashlol03:32
glauco1ok03:32
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arashbye...03:34
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glauco1bye03:35
glauco1tanks03:35
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jakub_hi all, please help: I cannot logn - my X says: cannot write to /tmp03:37
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jakub_I tried aptitude autoclean which saved some 7MB on /03:38
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Chanigoddamnit, is guidance-power-manager undead or something? it just. won't. die!03:40
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_Ahtiexit03:40
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JucatoChani: how won't it die?03:40
ChaniI had finally gotten rid of it last week in edgy, and the dist upgrade brought it back03:41
Chanialso, my clock vanished, and now that I've briought it back the settings are all gone03:41
Chaniat least it doesn't go zombie when I quit it now03:43
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Jucatohm...03:44
JucatoChani: check /usr/share/autostart if the .desktop file is still there03:44
KomiaPoikais openoffice broken on kubuntu 7.04??03:44
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Chaniyeah, I re-killed the .desktop file03:45
Chaninow I need to find my old clock rc file in the backup03:46
Jucato~/.kde/share/config/ ?03:46
Jucatoclock_panelapplet*03:46
glauco1arash03:46
glauco1!03:46
glauco1i've solved03:46
glauco1the directory is /home/lib/.local/share/Trash03:46
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ChaniJucato: there are too many files in the config folder, that's the problem03:48
Jucatotoo many files with the same starting name? clock_panelapplet03:48
Chanino.. no file like that at all03:49
Chani:(03:49
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drrngrvyhi all03:52
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drrngrvymy wired internet connection (through a Netgear wireless router) seems to be VERY dodgy after the upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 -> 7.0403:53
drrngrvyis knetworkmanager known to be unstable?03:53
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selimselam gobeller03:54
KomiaPoikacan anyone install openoffice in kubuntu 7.04 using apt-get or aptitude ??03:55
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Kozzihello03:55
KozziHow come everytime I right click( notebook) Konqueror goes back to previous folder ?03:55
Kozziis there a way to fix it ?03:56
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JucatoKozzi: try to check this setting: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> Right-click goes back in history03:58
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Kozzinow it crashed :804:00
Kozziit works now :), thnx again Jucato04:00
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KomiaPoikacan anyone install openoffice in kubuntu 7.0404:01
JucatoKomiaPoika: it should be installed by default04:02
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dazjorzHi04:02
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KomiaPoikaJucato: all is installed by default is a link to the website...04:03
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Jucatohuh?04:03
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JuJuBeeI can't seem to get vmserver installed on feisty.  Cant get past the building vmmon error.  Even using the any-any patch.04:03
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dazjorzI installed Ubuntu (not kubuntu) and I just installed the 'kde' package and all of the dependencies, so I (think I) effectively changed the system to kubuntu - but it still starts gdm, not kdm. How do I change this?04:03
dazjorzI remember it had something to do with reconfiguring x-window-system, but that package wasn't even installed...04:04
ahurstdazjorz - have you installed kubuntu-desktop?04:04
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dazjorzahurst: Oh, no, I didn't, doing that now04:04
bipolardazjorz: you need to installl kubuntu-desktop, iirc04:04
ahurst:)04:04
Jucatowell yes and no...04:04
KomiaPoikaJucato: /usr/bin/openoffice.org opens a konqueror to www.openoffice.org04:04
JucatoKomiaPoika: that's trange04:05
Jucatostrange04:05
KomiaPoikai'm trying manual install described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39807404:06
dazjorzUhh04:06
dazjorzLooks like de.archive.ubuntu.com is quite slow, I'd like to use netselect-apt to choose the fastest server, but it downloads the list of Debian mirrors04:06
dazjorzis there a similar mirrors_full file for Ubuntu / Kubuntu ?04:06
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jhutchinsdazjorz: As far as I know there is no mechanism to select a specifc server.04:07
dazjorzjhutchins: There's netselect, but I need a mirrors list like Debians'04:08
jhutchinsdazjorz: It automatically cycles through the list until it hits a server that replies.04:08
jhutchinsdazjorz: If you're in console mode, you may be able to hit Ctrl-C and prod it to try the next server.04:08
ahursteurm, if you go to Software Sources in Administartion ( I think) you can change the server in there04:08
ahurstI think04:09
KefkachuHeya, Jucato, what's up04:09
KefkachuOh, damn disconnection04:09
Kefkachubrb04:09
dazjorzjhutchins: Is there a mirrors list formatted like Debians' mirrors_full ?04:09
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MinatakuNvm04:09
Jucatoheh :)04:09
jhutchinsdazjorz: Dunno, I don't run debian.04:09
MinatakuI forgot, I have my alternate registered here04:09
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dazjorzjhutchins: Just to make sure, I know what netselect is and does and you don't need to tell me what ctrl+c does.04:09
dazjorzjhutchins: Heh, if it wasn't a (k)ubuntu question, I wouldn't ask it here, now would I ?04:10
jhutchinsdazjorz: Well, guess you don't need my help then.  Bye!04:10
dazjorzjhutchins: :)04:10
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dazjorzjhutchins: it wasn't meant bad04:10
dazjorzjhutchins: It was just to make sure you know my level, so we can talk accordingly04:10
dazjorzjhutchins: Do you know netselect-apt?04:10
dazjorzjhutchins: I was pleased to know the Ubuntu repositories have the netselect-apt package too, but not so pleased when I saw it did *exactly* the same as in Debian: download the *debian* mirrors list while I want to have the Ubuntu mirrors list04:12
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dazjorzjhutchins: do you know of any Ubuntu mirrors list?04:12
KozziHow can I create a shortcut of HDDs to Desktop ?04:12
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KomiaPoikaif that procedure to install openoffice doesn't, work, then kubuntu 7.04 is the windows vista of linux04:12
dazjorzKozzi: I think they are created automatically if you mount a volume04:13
Dr_willisi always want to remove openoffice. :)04:13
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ahurstdazjorz - if you go to "Software Sources" -> "Download from:" -> "Other..." there's a list in there04:13
dazjorzKomiaPoika: I'm sorry? The CPU, memory and disk space hogger of Linux?04:13
Kozzidazjorz:  no here isn't :( , only in media directory04:14
dazjorzahurst: Thanks, I'll take a look04:14
Kozzi*there04:14
dazjorzKozzi: Oh, I always mount volumes in media04:14
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Kozzidazjorz: yeah I just want a shortcut of them on the desktop04:14
dazjorzKozzi: I'll take a look for you04:14
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis, what's new on this... thursday04:14
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Dr_willisgetting ready to leave.. so i will be BUSY all day now. :)04:15
Dr_willisrun run run.. all i do.04:15
ahurstKozzi - if you go to Right click the desktop "Create new" -> "Link to Device" there's all sorts of things you can link to in there04:15
Kozziahurst: I tried it , but it will try to remount the HDD04:16
Kozziand fail04:16
dazjorzahurst: Oh, great, looks like that program has a builtin netselect-like program04:16
dazjorzahurst++ # thanks a lot04:16
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Dr_willisbbl04:16
ahurst:)04:16
mart81anyone here in use of a draytek vigor?04:17
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dazjorzmart81: I think I used to have one04:17
dazjorzDraytek Vigor 250004:18
mart81i want to make sure i'll buy a router which works with feisty. (currently my speedtouch 716g is problematic)04:18
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dazjorzheh04:18
dazjorzmart81: most routers don't care what OS you use on your network :)04:18
dazjorzmart81: as long as it's an ethernet router, it'll configure itself04:18
KomiaPoikadazjorz: no, the openoffice.org breaker04:19
KomiaPoikadazjorz: but it works almost to the end, the howto at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39807404:19
dazjorzmart81: then you just connect your computer to the ethernet router and it'll be allright - all popular OSes have ethernet support04:19
KomiaPoikayou just need to load openoffice using /opt/openoffice.org2.2/program/swriter04:19
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mart81dazjorz: myeah, i know, but in the summer i want to internet from the garden...04:20
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mart81think i'll buy a 2200VG04:20
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dazjorzmart81: Oh, you want a wireless one04:20
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dazjorzmart81: well, then you probably want to get a wireless card that has support for linux, the wireless router has the same story as the ethernet router: it won't care what OS you use, as long as the OS has networking support04:21
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mart81dazjorz: well, that might already be a problem, seeing i own a laptop (dell xps m1710)04:22
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dazjorzmart81: I currently use a netgear wireless device, it works great, almost all distro's have madwifi drivers in the kernel (madwifi is the driver for atheros chipsets)04:22
dazjorzmart81: Well, any router is fine as long as (and this is important) it uses ethernet or wireless to connect to it, and *NOT* usb04:23
mart81and that card is working fine on winxp but not so fine under linux04:23
dazjorzusb is the mother of all evil04:23
dazjorzwell, for routers, at least04:23
dazjorzfor other devices like mass storage, it's great, but not for modems or routers04:23
mart81mine is an intell card i think04:23
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dazjorzmart81: as long as your wireless card works, you won't have any trouble with an ethernet or wireless router, at least nothing OS-related04:24
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dazjorzmart81: most intel wireless cards work right out of the box, as far as I know04:24
mart81dazjorz: that is what i am wondering about, because it actually could connect before i reinstalled kubuntu (only not that statble)04:24
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mart81lemme try again this boot04:25
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mart81nope, does not work04:25
dazjorzmart81: what does not work?04:26
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mart81well, connecting stays IDLE at 28% i think, it should go to 58% (i think) for knowing it can connect04:26
dazjorzI'm not really that experienced with KDE's network manager, haven't used KDE for a while now04:27
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dazjorzdoes this channel have the same strict rules as #ubuntu ?04:28
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mart81myeah, but the weird part is that i actually can connect to my neighbours wifi without encryption. So there almost must be something wrong with encrypting seeing it worked in the past. Anyway, thanks for the help.04:28
mart81dazjorz: dunno, might04:29
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dazjorzmight what?04:30
dazjorzmart81: you probably want to configure wpa-supplicant04:30
dazjorzI added my network information to /etc/network/interfaces04:30
dazjorzunder the interface:04:30
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dazjorzaddress ...04:30
dazjorznetmask ...04:30
dazjorzgateway ...04:30
dazjorzwpa-driver madwifi04:30
dazjorzwpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf04:30
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dazjorzIt then automatically configures wpa_supplicant, which is the program that will connect you to your network04:31
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dazjorzI can't say if this is the good way for KDE's network manager too, but it works fine here, KDE probably won't disconnect it all, etcetera.04:31
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dazjorzHopefully.04:31
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mart81 /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf does not exist here04:33
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dazjorzmart81: no, there are no wpa supplicant config files by default04:34
dazjorzI'm not sure if the package is installed by default04:35
dazjorz$ sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant04:35
ubuntu__affter upgrading to feisty (without errors) i can no longer boot/restart04:35
dazjorzthat'll install WPA_Supplicant, then you can check WPA Supplicant's manual on how to configure it :)04:35
dazjorzI see some more wireless packages too, that you might check out: kwlan, wpagui, xsupplicant04:36
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ubuntu__how to find out whats the problem04:36
dazjorzubuntu__: please elaborate04:36
dazjorzubuntu__: people come to irc channels and say "help, my computer does not work, what do i do"04:37
dazjorzubuntu__: how does it not boot? any error? is there anything? anything special about your computer? any other information you found?04:37
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ubuntu__dazjory, be sure i read through the upgrade man and did exactly what it expects me to do. as i said, no error during the upgrade.04:37
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dazjorzanything during the boot?04:38
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ubuntu__it seems like files are missing, e.g. the boot output wonders where rules/xorg.conf are04:38
dazjorzI see04:38
dazjorzcan you get a shell?04:38
ubuntu__during boot, no.04:39
dazjorzdo you have a livecd ?04:39
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ubuntu__with the livecd i am online. one minute, please, and i will mount the hdd04:40
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dazjorzmaybe you can boot a livecd, then mount the partitions and check if the files are still there, if there are any logs in /var/log that might help you (on the root or /var partition, of course)04:40
dazjorzokay04:40
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dazjorzI've got to go for a moment, I'll be right back04:40
mart81thanks all04:40
mart81l/part04:40
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ubuntu__ok, now chroot or what do we need_04:41
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dazjorzback04:42
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dazjorzubuntu__: you don't need to chroot, if you can mount the partition(s) your files are on, you can check them out without chrooting04:42
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dazjorzjust prepend /mount/point before the path, I guess you know the drill :)04:42
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dazjorzs/prepend (.+) before/prepend $1 to/; # ?04:42
ubuntu__cd /mnt/... is ok, too, i guess...04:43
dazjorzyes, of course :)04:43
daanhi04:44
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daani have a small problem04:44
ubuntu__(k)ubuntu uses /etc/fstab like other distris, doesnt it04:44
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daani cant connect to several wireless networks04:44
dazjorzwhat the04:44
Jucatoubuntu__: yes04:44
dazjorzsince when do all these games like ktron come with kde? :/04:45
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dazjorzubuntu__: Yes, every Linux distribution uses /etc/fstab04:45
ubuntu__so i wonder, why in the fstab the hda1 line is commented out04:45
dazjorzif you could paste /etc/fstab to a pastebin of your choice (e.g. http://paster.dazjorz.com/ )04:45
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dazjorzubuntu__: is there a line like UUID=64f753f8-9fab-43d2-a30a-b65f174baf69 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1 ?04:46
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Jucato!uuid | ubuntu__04:46
ubotuubuntu__: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:46
dazjorzWhoa, I didn't know that.04:46
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The_Machinei performed the command:  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1test and it mounted correctly.  HOwever, I cannot access this drive as a normal user.  (Gives me permission denied).  How can i make it so i can mount this (which requires root access) so i can access it with a general user account?04:47
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ubuntu__the uuid is inserted  http://nopaste.info/627de69859.html04:47
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Jucatoubuntu__: Ubuntu uses UID instead of block device references. the UUID below the commented /dev/hdx line in /etc/fstab is the UUID for that partition04:47
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MinatakuSame here, dazjorz04:48
MinatakuNot a fan of the UUID model at all04:48
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Jucatoyou don't have to be. you can just as easily use what you want04:48
ubuntu__ok, then this is not wrong. the uuid is the same like hda1 has in blkid04:48
dazjorzBut I understand why it's interesting to switch, though04:49
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Jucatoit's not like Ubuntu invented UUID....04:49
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dazjorzsome volumes sometimes are /dev/sda1 and sometimes /dev/hda1, here04:49
MinatakuJucato: Yes, but AFAIK they're the only ones to use it by default04:49
dazjorzwhat the hell04:49
dazjorzThe system is going down for halt NOW! - I didn't tell it to halt.04:49
JucatoMinataku: for now. remember the reason why they switched04:49
dazjorzMy laptop just switched to console and told me it would shutdown.04:49
Jucatoit might be a default in the future for the kernel04:49
MinatakuJucato: Ew04:50
MinatakuThat can so easily screw things up04:50
Jucatomight be... doesn't mean it will04:50
MinatakuToo much potential for disaster, IMO04:51
JucatoUbuntu's not the only one making these kind of changes04:51
JucatoFedora 7 recently switched, but in a different way04:51
Jucatothey switched from hdx to sdx04:51
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MinatakuWhich is ultrastupid, considering hdx is for ATAPI devices, and sdx is for SCSI devices04:51
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JucatoMinataku: tell that to the kernel devs then04:52
dazjorzOh, so I was right about that.04:52
MinatakuOr devices interacting via SCSI emulation04:52
MinatakuSuch as USB and SATA04:52
ubuntu__where where does the system expect the directory rules with the xorg.conf inside04:52
ubuntu__i found it04:53
MinatakuJucato: That doesn't sound right at all, such a severe core change would NOT happen in a stable kernel series04:53
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MinatakuMaybe in a 2.7, but massive changes like that would never happen in an X.<even>04:53
JucatoI think what's happening upstream (kernel) is that the code used for libsata is being used for libata, hence the transitions04:54
MinatakuJucato: That would still critically break EVERYTHING04:55
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MinatakuEspecially systems using PATA devices04:55
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MinatakuIf that change was made, my fstab would be invalid04:55
ubuntu__do both drapper and feisty use kdm04:55
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MinatakuI'd be up crap creek04:55
JucatoUUID hasn't broken for anything for me04:55
MinatakuI mean hdx->sdx04:56
Jucatoubuntu__: KDE uses KDM. Kubuntu has always used it04:56
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ubuntu__ok, my broken system tries to open etc/X11/xkb/rules -> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules which fails. it does not exist on the hdd04:57
MinatakuLink it04:57
MinatakuMake a link from whichever doesn't exist to whichever does04:57
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oemauch welche hier die deutsch knnen denn mene englisch ist nicht gerade das beste05:00
oem???05:01
Minataku!de05:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de05:01
Minataku:)05:01
oemoh danke05:01
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Minatakunp05:01
ubuntu__oem. gibts keinen dt. chann05:01
ubuntu__ah, doch05:01
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ubuntu__what may be a reason for the /usr/share/X11/xkb directory missing05:02
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ijkI'm installing kubuntu 7.04; trying to create a 430GB partition on my SATA disk, but for some reason the installer just does a 39GB partition instead. ext3. any idea why and how to fix?05:03
missmolotovafternoon05:03
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nosrednaekimhello05:04
nosrednaekimijk: is the disk empty?05:05
kristianhey there: i want to start automatically "beryl --force-aiglx"...so i created a link in .kde/Autostart...but how i add the parameters "--force-aiglx"?05:05
dazjorzkristian: can't you make a shell script out of it05:05
dazjorz?05:05
ijkno it's not; I've used the 30GB (sda1) for windows 64bit05:05
dazjorzecho "beryl --force-aiglx" >~/.kde/Autostart05:05
dazjorzor so05:05
nosrednaekimdazjorz: edit the .desktop file that you created05:05
dazjorzJust a hint, I've got to go now, bye05:05
dazjorznosrednaekim: ?05:05
nosrednaekimdazjorz: sorry...wrong nick.05:06
dazjorzright ;)05:06
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missmolotovi'm having a bit of 7.04 trouble as well, has nay one had much experience of install kubuntu on dell machines?05:06
nosrednaekimkristian: edit the .desktop file you created.05:06
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nosrednaekimmissmolotov: they are no different from any other. go on.05:07
bipolarmissmolotov: I've got it on  a 600m laptop.05:07
nosrednaekimkristian: and on the executable, add "--force-aiglx"05:07
nosrednaekimbipolar: hey..my freind has the same one.. do you have the ATI card?05:07
ketzereiUm, is the installation for the fglrx driver for ubuntu the same as Kubuntu?05:07
missmolotovbeen using this excat version of kubuntu on this one, but on the dell machine it will either freeze completely after about half an hour, or it seems to crash a lot if you open adept, but not all of the time05:08
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nosrednaekimketzerei: no.. because kubuntu doesn't have restricted-manager (yet)05:08
missmolotovit's an intel chipset, I haven't had any experience of that either, so i'm kind of at a loss...05:08
ketzereiK, well, im trying to install the manager.... is that a problem?05:08
bipolarnosrednaekim: yes, unfortunetly05:08
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bipolarnosrednaekim: I'm using the open source ati drivers, which work well enough05:09
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ketzereiWill trying to install the manager on kubuntu mess kubuntu up?05:09
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ketzereiello?05:10
nosrednaekimbipolar: hmm x wouldn't work right off the livecd on his (and I didn't have alot of time to play around)05:10
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bipolarnosrednaekim: really? strange. for me it was a 'just works' install. wifi and all just worked05:11
nosrednaekimketzerei: no.. you can install it.05:11
ketzereiok....Will it mess kubuntu up at all?05:11
bipolarnosrednaekim: maybe it's an issue with the livecd. I might have used the alt install.05:11
nosrednaekimbipolar: then again.. he configured it with a broadcom (which doen' help)05:11
nosrednaekimketzerei: nope..thats how I did it05:11
nosrednaekimbipolar: ok.05:11
bipolarnosrednaekim: ohh! intel here.05:11
ketzereiok then......05:11
ijkis my problem (the one with not being able to create large partitions with ext3) a known issue or is my hardware just seriously wicked? I couldn't find anything about it by the power of google..05:11
bipolarthat might be an issue.05:11
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nosrednaekimbipolar: not for x though I wouldn't think05:12
bipolarnosrednaekim: no, thats got nothing to do with X05:12
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magicbronsonanyone know how to get Tab to change keyboard focus to different buttons etc?05:12
BluesKajijk, what partition editor are you using ?05:12
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ijkI'm using the graphical installer, so - the one included in the installer.05:13
ijk(the live cd -> install)05:13
nosrednaekimijk: maybe try using qtparted before using the installer05:13
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ijkwill try that, thanks so far :] 05:13
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Xdebianalguem brasileiro ae??05:14
BluesKajactually GParted is more stable and effective ..it's also a live cd ...it'will do what you need in most situations05:14
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: but is it on the installer disc?05:14
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BluesKajno , you have to DL and burn it to a separate disk05:15
missmolotovis there anything windows kind of common that would freeze kubuntu, anything really obvious i should be checking after i've tested all hardware?  like stray processes, or files that need updating?05:15
nosrednaekimI thought the livcd on;y had qtparted05:15
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: I've had wireless do it.05:15
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missmolotovthanks, i'll check that's all disbale, since i don't have any wireless hardware05:16
BluesKajyeah nosrednaekim , it does but it's not really very reliable from most reports05:16
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jacqueshi there05:16
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BluesKajijk, what are you trying to do ?05:17
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polopoloHello all05:17
ketzereiCan you get xubuntu for Kubuntu?05:17
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ah ok.05:17
ketzereithe desktop I mean05:17
jacquesis there any mirror for gutsy?05:17
jacquesI want to download it05:17
ubuntu__here i am again... sorry. but my system does not like to boot yet05:17
nosrednaekimketzerei: yep, do "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"05:17
polopoloHow can I install kubuntu on my computer?05:17
ketzereiSWEET!05:17
ubuntu__it stops after it works with /etc/rc.load05:17
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nosrednaekimjacques: might want to wait a little for gutsy.05:17
ijkBluesKaj: gparted isn't included on my livecd for some reason05:18
nosrednaekimijk: its a separate liveCD05:18
ijkoh05:18
ketzereiI had qtparted on my Live cd05:18
jacquesfor tribe1 i mean05:19
polopolo How can I install kubuntu on my computer?05:19
ketzereiWhats gutsy?05:19
BluesKajno ijk , it's not , but you can try qtparted if you wish, however if it doesn't do what you need then DL and brun GParted to a separate disc ...it'll be handy in future , believe me.05:19
nosrednaekimjacques: go over to #kubuntu-devel for info on gutsy testing05:19
nosrednaekimpolopolo: do you have the liveCD?05:20
magicbronsonanyone know how to get Tab to change keyboard focus to different buttons etc? seems not to out of the box05:20
polopoloyes05:20
nosrednaekimmagicbronson: thats odd.. it does for me05:20
ijkokay I just misunderstood then :)05:20
nosrednaekimpolopolo: did you boot the liveCD yet?05:20
polopoloketzerei: gutsy is the upcomming version of ubuntu05:20
polopoloyes05:20
ketzereiOH!05:20
ketzereithanks05:20
polopoloI now on the live cd05:21
magicbronsonnosrednaekim: just installed from ubuntu 7.04 live cd and then kubuntu-desktop05:21
ketzereiOh by the way Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Ubuntu Kicks @$$$05:21
magicbronsonalso, selected something with the mouse doesn't copy it to the x clipboard05:21
polopolobut when I want to install, it does not want05:21
nosrednaekimmagicbronson: in kde.. there is klipper05:21
polopoloI should see the error, wait05:21
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magicbronsonnosrednaekim: i see the "separate clipboard and selection" option is selected by default05:22
magicbronsonnosrednaekim: what's that mean?05:22
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yamanhow can i enter a folder that contain spaces like Microsoft ActiveSync "cd Microsoft????05:23
magicbronsonnosrednaekim: if i select something is there some other shortcut to paste it instead of Ctrl+C05:23
ketzereiYaman: I believe you use _. am I right?05:23
magicbronsonnosrednaekim: the behavior of choosing "synchronize..." instead is what i'm used to... is there a reason they changed this?05:24
missmolotovnope, no wireless enabled, wasn't that :/05:24
yamanketzerei: mmmm  nop didn't work!! :(05:24
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pagyaman, either cd "/path/to/Microsoft ActiveSync"  or cd /path/to/Microsoft\ ActiveSync05:24
polopoloI get the next error:05:25
ketzereiyaman: well, it works for me.05:25
ketzereihmmm.05:25
nosrednaekimmagicbronson: I don't know05:25
yamanor wait ?? i didn't try the "." ???05:25
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: do you have wireless in your computer?05:25
ketzereiyaman: No . that was an accident05:25
polopoloNo root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.05:26
polopoloWhat must I do?05:26
missmolotovno, I don't have wirelss in my computer, so i guess that would have been a bit odd :)05:26
nosrednaekimpolopolo: you need to make a partiton for linux05:26
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: ah..ok.05:26
polopoloI already ahve05:26
ketzereiPoloPolo: Did you check the box and set it?05:26
nosrednaekimpolopolo: you need to set its mount point to "/"05:26
missmolotovis there an easy way of checking what graphics driver you are using?05:26
ijkBluesKaj, nosrednaekim : worked like a charm with qtparted; thanks :)05:26
polopoloThe partition maker in the installer does not work good05:26
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: yeah, "glxinfo"05:27
polopoloso I potitioning with qtparted05:27
polopolotwo EXT3 partitions05:27
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: well... actually that might not tell you05:27
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yamanmmm then it didn't work ? the * works but i can't use the * to access all folders else i am getting this |bash: cd:  Microsoft ActiveSync : No such file or directory05:27
polopoloand a swap05:27
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nosrednaekimpolopolo: ok.05:27
Banditzkubuntu > ubuntu :D05:27
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yamanand this Microsoft_ActiveSync : No such file or directory05:28
polopolonobody knows how to fix?05:28
BluesKajijk, good to hear, still recommend GParted as a Partition Editor for future use tho... safe and effective05:28
ketzereipolopolo: Listen, if you're having that much trouble, re-download the .iso and re-burn it.05:28
nosrednaekimpolopolo: I forget what the fiesty installer looks like..05:28
ketzereiThat worked for me.05:29
nosrednaekimketzerei: its not a problem with that.. he's not setting the mount point correctly05:29
ketzereiOh!05:29
yamanpag : you were ryt thats it the " worked thanx05:29
polopoloyou mean I have to go to shipit again?????!?!?!?!?!?05:29
missmolotovpolopolo; it easist if you have 2 etx3 partitions, and then one swap parition, with no mount point05:29
salaahi need help configuring my video card, i installed the latest drivers, what do  i do now?05:29
ketzereiWell then, I cant help you.05:29
yamanketzerei : thank you too05:29
missmolotov*ext305:29
ketzereiyaman: Np05:29
salaahmines an nvidia 6600gt btw05:29
pagyaman, np.05:29
nosrednaekimsalaah: which drivers did you install.. what video card?05:29
nosrednaekim!nvidia | salaah05:30
ubotusalaah: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:30
polopoloI gonna reset the computer and check the md5.05:30
ketzereiOk, when I install the driver (ati), do I use the Edgy instructions?05:30
salaahnosrednaekim: i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new05:30
polopoloty all05:30
nosrednaekimpolopolo: ok05:31
nosrednaekimketzerei: if you are using edgy, yes.05:31
nosrednaekimketzerei: if you are using fiesty. no ;)05:31
ketzereiI think I have edgy, if I don't, what do I do?05:31
nosrednaekimketzerei: first lets check which you have... do "uname -a"05:32
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salaahwhy doesnt sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg work?05:32
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nosrednaekimand paste it05:32
nosrednaekimsalaah: its xserver-org05:32
nosrednaekim*xserver-xorg05:32
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salaahoh yeah...heheh05:32
ketzereiLinux ketzerei-desktop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux05:32
salaahthanks05:32
nosrednaekimketzerei: thats fiesty05:33
ketzereiok then....05:33
nosrednaekimketzerei: so did you get "restricted-manager"?05:33
ketzerei....05:33
ketzerei?05:33
missmolotovnosrednaekim: tried glxinfo, don't really get it to be honest, don't think the driver i have is working anyway, guess i should try installing it manually05:33
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: what type of video card do you have?05:34
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ketzereirestricted-manager?05:34
missmolotovan ATI 950005:34
missmolotovunfortuntly, it's a work machine, all mine are nvidia :D hence my confusion05:34
nosrednaekimketzerei: restricted-manager helps you install proprietary drivers05:34
ketzereiYes, i sudo apt-get it.05:34
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ketzereiWhat do I do now?05:34
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: ah ok. did you install the fglrx driver?05:34
ketzereiNot familiar with kubuntu05:34
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nosrednaekimketzerei: thats ok... run "kdesu restricted-manager"05:35
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ketzereiok, ill try05:35
falveshello05:35
anthony_hi, how do I install the latest nvidia drivers in kubuntu 7.10?05:35
falveshow to create an account invites under linux05:35
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nosrednaekimanthony_: the hard way.05:35
missmolotovyeah, i went to the ubuntu guide, and tried it the 'ubuntu way', which didn't seem to do anything, then realised it wasn't working when i went to install beryl, removed beryl again, which i guess means I should be trying to install the driver manually next?05:36
nosrednaekimfalves: account invites? kubuntu isn't gmail.05:36
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nosrednaekimlol05:36
anthony_any how-to link?05:36
nosrednaekimmissmolotov: yeah05:36
anthony_will envy work?05:36
nosrednaekim!nvidia05:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:36
anthony_10q :)05:36
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ketzereinosrednaikim: I think it works!!!! Thank you!05:36
missmolotovthanks, i'll give that a bash then05:36
nosrednaekimketzerei: you installed the driver in there?05:36
ketzereiW00t! Unreal Tournament time!05:37
ketzereiyes05:37
missmolotovno envy won't work on my machine, it installed okay, but when i open it, it never loads, just dissappears05:37
anthony_okay 10x05:37
nosrednaekimketzerei: you have to restart your xserver.05:37
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ketzereiIt lives! It lives!05:38
ketzereiIts working now!05:38
ketzerei:D05:38
nosrednaekimketzerei: what does glxgears give you?05:38
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ketzereisudo lsmod and guess what! its there!05:38
ketzereiglxgears works05:38
ketzereiwell05:38
nosrednaekimwhat framerate?05:38
ketzereilike 560 something05:38
ketzerei:D05:38
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MinatakuHeh05:39
ketzereikdesu is so weird for me. Im so used to gksudo XD05:39
nosrednaekimketzerei: ok... is when it is running fullscreen?05:39
MinatakuTry glxgears with no GL05:40
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ketzereiIt works. I've done the same thing in ubuntu too.05:40
ketzereiWell, brb. Gotta reboot for something else.05:40
nosrednaekimok. cool05:40
_AhtiHow can i get to the kthememanager?????05:41
_Ahtiits not there :@05:41
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Jucato!changethemes | _Ahti05:41
ubotu_Ahti: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.05:41
Jucatolast link ^^^05:41
serciksomeone knows hot to eliminate the effects when the mouse stay on minimized windows icon in taskbar?05:43
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sercika sort of big label with a transitional effect05:43
ketzereiYAY! IT WORKS!05:44
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ketzereiHey nos, you still there?05:45
nosrednaekimketzerei: congrats.05:45
doobehI seem to be having issues getting my resolution up to 1680x1050-- I've set the monitor to be 1680x1050 at 60hz from the generic menus, but the resolution slider doesn't have a point for that resolution05:46
ketzereiThanks. I'm not used to kde so it weird. I still like gnome better. :D05:46
doobehIt just jumps up to 1920xetc05:46
nosrednaekimketzerei: to each his own05:46
doobehAnyone know of a good guide for correcting resolutions?05:46
ketzereiWell, see ya when I mess everything up again :D05:46
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ketzereibye05:46
doobehI tried adding modelines in to the xorg file, but again, it didn't seem to make any difference05:47
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Dodger73yello05:49
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duryodhanhey ... I am trying to switch from Windows to Kubuntu (I am a advanced Slack user, but am at Aunt's place and I don't want her to go thru the pain of Slackware) ...  This place has a broadband thru PPP over ethernet. Are there any specific problems or stuff I should know about it?05:54
duryodhanAlso the ethernet is thru Realtek 8139 which is notorious to work with in Slack ... is there any problems in Kubuntu too ?05:55
JucatoPPPoE? not much. there's no GUI to configure it though. just use "pppoeconf"05:55
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duryodhanok thanks ...05:55
duryodhanabt the RealTek 8139 ?05:55
Jucatonot sure :)05:55
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duryodhanI guess google is my friend ... :)05:56
polopoloHello all05:56
duryodhanbtw, I want to rant a little ...05:56
Jucato!offtopic05:56
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:56
Jucato:)05:56
duryodhanwho the hell came up with the stupid idea of not allowing users to use su ???05:57
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Jucato!sudo | duryodhan05:57
ubotuduryodhan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:57
polopolo!offtopic | duryodhan05:57
ubotuduryodhan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:57
polopolo:P05:57
Dodger73anyone with an ati card that got fglrx to work here? ;)05:58
BluesKajwow the offtopic police are getting relly picky ...not as if it's real busy in here atm05:58
MinatakuATI cards don't work.05:58
MinatakuPeriod. >.>05:58
MinatakuOoooh, lunchtime05:58
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Dodger73it seems to, except for dri :P05:59
BluesKajDodger73, yes I have ...and what is your definition of "work" ?05:59
Dodger73well05:59
Dodger73fglrxinfo gives me this:05:59
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Dodger73X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)05:59
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Dodger73Major opcode of failed request:  143 (XFree86-DRI)05:59
lucky_lucasanyone is eclipse here ? I wonder how I can interface it the launchpad with eclipse05:59
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Dodger73this is using the driver from the ati web site06:00
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BluesKajok, Dodger73 , which ati card ?06:00
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Dodger73it's a 512MB x1900xtx06:00
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BluesKajDodger73, http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty06:01
Dodger73i looked at that, but the patch in it is for a different driver version - should i run the older driver?06:02
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Dodger73oh and one thing i noticed is this06:03
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Dodger73(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"06:03
Dodger73compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.0.006:03
BluesKajDodger73, go with the the driver on theat page ...it's older but it's modded and patched to work on feisty06:03
Dodger73from the x.org log - is this correct? i'm running feisty with xorg 7.206:03
Dodger73ah... ok, cool06:04
Dodger73i'll give that a try :)06:04
Dodger73thanks BluesKaj!06:04
BluesKajone hint Dodger7306:04
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duryodhanI know sudo ...06:05
Dodger73yes?06:05
BluesKajyou don't have to use the tutor's xorg file like he suggests , just make sure the drivers are fglrx06:05
duryodhananyways are you all available in the chat channel too ?06:05
BluesKajof course06:05
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duryodhanthen we will waste bandwith over there ....06:05
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Dodger73yeah... i'll probably just try the one aticonfig writes and see what happens06:06
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BluesKajDodger73, there are a couple of tweaks to add if you plan on feeding fglrx with a tvtuner06:07
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Dodger73i don't think i'll need the tv tuner... just getting glx and dri to work will do :)06:07
BluesKajright, and then google earth will run as well :)06:08
josnierthis site is very good06:08
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no0bIs there a favorites option within amarok too save the radio stations too bookmarks?06:09
no0bHEY LOOK @@@@^06:09
no0bebay lolz06:10
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Dodger73alright.... all done, lets's see if this works06:13
Dodger73bb06:13
venik212Is there anything like Google Desktop Search or Windows Desktop Search in Linux?  The LOCATE command misses things quite often06:13
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missmolotovwhen you lspci -v and your looking at graphics cards, if you've got a dual monitor card, is that why it shows up as having a VGA controller and a Display Controller?06:14
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yamanhi please need help , i did an update to my system and when i rebooted the grub lost the winxp (in the multiboot screen) and in the first screen (on testing hardware) my computer freez but when i login in the recovery login i can enter normaly after i use the exit command to login to the gnom "how can i get back my old menu.lst  ??06:16
dazjorztry running "update-grub"06:16
dazjorzor grub-update, can't remember which06:17
ketzereiupdate-grub06:17
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venik212update-grub06:17
ketzereigo to the ubuntu forums. There's like 8 topics on Grub.06:17
ketzereiThey're very helpful when you FUBAR grub.06:18
yamani did but no xp boot lines added06:18
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ketzereiJust go to the forums. Youll figure it out.06:18
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yamankkkk06:18
bipolaryaman: thats becaouse bill gates says you're not alowed to run it any more06:18
ketzereiXD06:19
Dodger73ok, now dri is working but it seems the GLX lib is the wrong one06:19
bipolaryaman: with all this ubuntu trechery and all06:19
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yamanbipolar: lol i don't think i am ready to use the linux :P06:19
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bipolaryaman: sure you are. you just don't know it yet.06:20
ketzereioh you'll get it06:20
Dodger73BluesKaj: dri works, but i'm getting mesa as the GL provider06:20
bipolaryaman: let me pastebin my grub line for XP06:20
ketzereiHell its taken me 5 months to figure out how to get ut2004 to run06:20
ketzereiXD06:20
missmolotovyaman: you can use windows recovery console to edit the master boot record and fix grub06:20
missmolotovif i'm getting your meaning06:20
yamanbipolar : hahahah you still have gates in your computer :P06:20
yamangatcha06:21
bipolaryaman: http://pastebin.ca/54805406:21
bipolaryaman: that root(0,0) line might be diffrent for you06:21
yamanmissmolotov : i ll try this step if bipolar pastebin doesn't work06:21
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yamanbipolar: thanx  my friend06:22
missmolotovk, i'm off home anyway, just a thought :)06:22
bipolarmissmolotov: yaman: the windows recovery console will trample grub, iirc06:22
missmolotovit will, but at least you can dual boot again then, it it's totally fuct06:22
bipolaryaman: the first 0 is the hard drive number, the second one is the partion number. the numbers start with 006:23
bipolaryaman: so /dev/hda1 is (0,0)06:23
ketzereiyes06:23
bipolarhda2 is (0,1) and so fourth06:23
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yamanbipolar: the ubuntu boot is on root(hd0,7)  ??? this mean the windows is not on the same hd ?? ryt ?06:24
ketzereiif I remember correctly, there's a grub command that finds you MBR06:24
bipolaryaman: how many hard drives does the pc have?06:24
yaman2 ntfs 1e xt206:24
yaman1 swap06:25
ketzereiMy comp had 4. I fried 306:25
ketzereiXD06:25
deminemiif you only have one hard drive it is on the same hard drive, but probably in a different place06:25
deminemidifferent partition06:25
bipolaryaman: in a console, run 'cat /proc/partitions' and paste it into http://pastebin.ca06:25
bipolaryaman: then paste the link here, so I can look at it.06:25
yamanthis one06:26
yaman3     8    6771366 hda806:26
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yamansorry06:26
bipolaryaman: thats your windows partition?06:26
yaman  3     1   19591236 hda106:26
yamanhda106:26
bipolarhda1 is windows?06:26
yamani know its 19GB06:26
yamanyeah06:26
bipolarok. (0,0) it is then06:26
bipolarmy pastebin should work as is06:27
yamanroot            (hd1,0) ??06:27
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yamanmm then its should be root            (hd0,0)06:27
bipolaryaman: if hda1 is windows, my pastebin should work as it is with no modifications06:27
venik212Does anyone know how to transfer files in Jabbdr (GoogleTalk) using Kopete?06:27
bipolarjust add it to the end of the menu.lst file06:27
ketzereiNope06:27
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ketzereiDang does xubuntu take a long time to install....06:28
ketzereiugh06:28
yamankkkk lets make a restart just one min brb \06:28
bipolaryaman: good luck06:28
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ketzereiWell....Im bored06:29
venik212Ket--Help me, then!06:29
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venik212Does anyone know how to transfer files in Jabbdr (GoogleTalk) using Kopete?06:29
ketzereiI dont use Kopete. sorry06:29
venik212Is there anything like Google Desktop Search or Windows Desktop Search in Linux?  The LOCATE command misses things quite often06:29
ketzereiUmmm, like I said. I don't know. Sorry.06:30
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Daisuke_Ido!beagle | venik21206:30
ubotuvenik212: Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)06:30
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bipolarvenik212: as far as I know, kopete does not yet have the ability to transfer files with jabber accounts06:30
ketzereiYAY, its done06:30
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yamanworked !!! xp back !06:35
yaman:)06:35
MinatakuThat's a good thing?06:35
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gdiebelif there is data that you need to get off the cursed beast until being rid of it forever06:36
yamanjust for the grub looder :P06:36
yamanthanx for hellping :)06:36
bipolaryaman: cool.06:37
bipolaryaman: now try to use it as little as possible :)06:37
yamanbipolar: thanx it's all because of you06:37
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yamanbipolar : came back to the irc to tell you thanx but i forgot the nick name :) \06:38
bipolarhaha06:38
yamanbyee06:38
bipolarbye06:38
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yurimxpxmanis there any way to stop my bluetooth LED from blinking? I tried stopping the service, but that doesn't do it06:39
Minatakuyurimxpxman: Open it up, replace with resistor06:39
MinatakuOr just put a piece of tape over it06:39
MinatakuOr disconnect it06:39
bipolarA little dab of black paint06:39
yurimxpxmanmy friend said it didn't do that in Windows06:39
bipolaryurimxpxman: find out what the blinking means.06:40
MinatakuAs if Windows is really what dictates proper form and procedure :P06:40
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MinatakuIf anything, if something works in Windows, that's only more proof that it's WRONG06:40
yurimxpxmanMinataku: well, it's really annoying, because it never stops blinking - ever.06:40
bipolaryurimxpxman: the blinking may mean the radio is powered up, but initiilized, or maybe it's scanning for devices06:41
Minatakuyurimxpxman: Just stick a piece of tape over it06:41
MinatakuIf it's working fine in Linux and just blinking, give it the 'ol "Check Engine Light" repair06:41
bipolaryurimxpxman: really need to know what it's trying to do before we can figure out how to stop it.06:41
yurimxpxmanMinataku: I tried that, but it's so bright it shines through06:42
Minatakuyurimxpxman: Electrical tape06:42
MinatakuNot gonna shine through that06:42
bipolaryurimxpxman: ele... yeah, what Minataku said06:42
yurimxpxmanbipolar: any idea how to find out what it's trying to do?06:42
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MinatakuThe main question is: Does it work just fine?06:42
yurimxpxmanno, it wasn't working when I tried it06:42
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bipolaryurimxpxman: you said you had a windows friend that knows something about it. maybe he knows what it's doing while blinking06:42
MinatakuIf it does, either tape over it or snip the LED06:42
ketzereiWhat do you need to run gnome programs on xfce?06:42
yurimxpxmanbut I don't use bluetooth myself, so I don't care whether it works or not06:43
MinatakuThen just tape over it06:43
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Dr_willisketzerei,  they should run fine. always have for me. No extras needed06:43
bipolarketzerei: just use apt to install them and the dependancys will automatily be installed06:43
MinatakuOr short across the leads06:43
ks1Hi I was wondering if Kubuntu has all of the clutter like a kde built from source not customized? (K this K that, that you do not need)06:43
MinatakuDr_willis: :D06:43
ketzereiOh.........Sweet. Thanks06:43
yurimxpxmanbipolar: I got this laptop from my friend who used to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. He said it only blinked in Linux06:43
MinatakuNo wonder he gave it to you06:43
Dr_willisone mans clutter is another mans  nessicary feature.06:43
MinatakuIt's a blue one, too, isn't it?06:43
yurimxpxmanyeah06:43
bipolaryurimxpxman: and he never used the bluetooth?06:44
bipolarMinataku: haha06:44
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Dr_williskubuntu's kde is a liuttle more trimmed down then the vanilla kde. but not by much06:44
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yurimxpxmanbipolar: he used bluetooth in Windows, but I don't use it myself, so all I want is to stop the light06:44
ks1Dr_willis, I am looking for a better answer than that. okay, thank you for your second reply :)06:44
MinatakuSeriously, though, tape over it or remove the LED, replace with a resistor maybe 100 ohms06:44
MinatakuIf even06:44
bipolaryurimxpxman: the quickest way is always going to be the electrical tape. :)06:44
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MinatakuLEDs are more or less resistanceless, at least as far as current draw is concerned06:45
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bipolaryurimxpxman: otherwise, check the systems logs to see if anything is going on06:45
yurimxpxmanit'd be nice to find the source of the problem though, which is, evidently, the driver06:45
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MinatakuWhich is why the current limiting resistor is necessary06:45
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MinatakuOtherwise it puts all the current it can supply into the LED and you've suddenly got an SED instead06:45
ks1Dr_willis, I know KDE is planning on slimming down things, the cluttered menu is one thing that keeps me from using it. (I know i can hide all of the *.desktop files by adding an entry)06:45
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MinatakuYou can probably just leave it open, as well06:45
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yurimxpxmanks1: you could always edit the menu manually, like I do06:46
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ks1yurimxpxman, that is what i am talking about. I edit through the *.desktop files though.06:46
bipolaryurimxpxman: K> system> KSystemLog06:46
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MinatakuDr_willis: Back from wherever you had to go, I assume it's same to assume?06:47
MinatakuXD06:47
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Dr_willisalmosyt. :)06:47
yurimxpxmanbipolar: I don't see anything in there about bluetooth :(06:47
MinatakuHeehee06:47
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bipolaryurimxpxman: unfortunetly, my laptop here does not have bluetooth at all.06:47
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bipolaryurimxpxman: just try searching for 'blue'06:48
yurimxpxmanbipolar: I'll trade ya! :D06:48
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Minataku!bluetooth06:48
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup06:48
MinatakuTry that06:48
yurimxpxmanok06:48
Dr_willisks1,  a cluttered Start/K menu - is the least of the clutter thats becomming common on  most OS's these days :)06:48
MinatakuSetting it up to working should suffice as well as disabling06:48
ks1Dr_willis, true, but the other is "unseen" to many. Though it can be felt with older systems.06:49
ketzereiCan anyone recommend any good games?06:50
Dr_willisketzerei,  depends on what you like. :)06:50
bipolarbbiab... rebooting into gutsy06:50
ketzereiAnything.06:50
Dr_willisFrozenbubble :) a MUST play06:50
ketzereiFps, rpg, doesnt matter06:50
yurimxpxmanWhen I restart the bluetooth service, it says "Failed to connect to the SDP server."06:50
Dr_willisthen come back 8 hrs later. heh heh06:50
ketzereipuzzles are fun too06:50
Dr_willisTheres that UrbanTerror game out for ya Fragging Needs.06:51
Dr_willisand Tremulus06:51
Dr_willisI think i spelt that right06:51
MinatakuI've been playing Forza Motorsport 206:51
ketzereiFrozenbubble, Urbanterror, tremulous, Nexiuz, played them06:51
MinatakuBut then I'm a console gamer, not a PC gamer06:51
ketzereianything else?06:51
ks1ketzerei, enemy territory if you like the quake3 engine06:52
Dr_willisgoogle for that Linux Game Tome Site.06:52
ketzereiIve played wesnoth, ut2004, americas army, armagetron (old and new),... anything else?06:52
MinatakuThere's plenty of Flash games out there06:52
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MinatakuWith Flash Player 9 they actually work right06:52
ketzereiET is ok06:52
ketzereiLinux game tome?06:52
MinatakuNot like Macromedia and their crappy Fl Pl 706:52
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Dr_willisthats the name of the site06:53
ketzereiMacro is now adobe06:53
MinatakuI know06:53
ketzereiOk, ill google it.06:53
ketzereiThanks!06:53
MinatakuAdobe gave us a working Fl Pl06:53
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MinatakuMacromedia didn't give a sh!t06:53
rolnxyz_telnet crawl.akrasiac.org06:53
Minatakurolnxyz_: This is XChat, not xterm06:53
Minataku;306:53
MinatakuOr whatever you may be using06:53
rolnxyz_you were talking about crappy flash games06:54
rolnxyz_try that out06:54
rolnxyz_THAT is the game06:54
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Minatakurolnxyz_: Please keep your negative opinions to yourself06:54
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MinatakuPlenty of Flash games are excellent06:54
Dr_willisand plenty are not. :) heh06:54
Dr_willisMediocrity in Abundance! :)06:55
MinatakuFlash isn't so much an animation package as it is a programming language06:55
Dr_willisWe all know that game went down hill after  Elf Bowling!06:55
Dr_willisgames went down hill.06:55
Dr_willis:)06:55
MinatakuDr_willis: Manage to find those calculators or too busy?06:56
MinatakuI fell asleep early last night06:56
venik212While using Kopete, I am trying to get File Traaansfer to work with GoogleTalk, but I am getting a Kopete Error06:56
Dr_willisaint seen them yet.06:56
MinatakuXD06:56
MinatakuDr_willis: Nuts D:06:56
MinatakuWell, like I said, no rush ^^06:56
venik212I know tehre were bugs in this part of it, but had hoped they were fixed by now06:56
MinatakuI've seen accidental double letters, but triple? That's new. XD06:57
MinatakuSorry, not trying to be mean, I just think it's kinda funny X306:57
Dr_willisMinataku,  ya so far my day has been.. get up.. go to store to get some hose, and parts to fix the wifes pool and bird cage.. she calles me inthe store.. "come look at this used car"  so that takes an hr+ more.. Then come home 'why dont you go grill out!"06:57
Dr_willisso now its timne to get ready for work06:57
MinatakuDr_willis: Heh06:57
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Dr_willisBut at least i did  grill somne Pork Chops! :)06:57
MinatakuStay strong X306:57
MinatakuSounds tasty :306:57
Dr_willisand of course now SHES gone.. so it will all be cold by the time she actually eats it.,06:58
Minataku#.#06:58
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JuJuBeeDoes frostwire run well on ubuntu?07:02
eaglehawkhello everybody07:02
eaglehawkcan anybody tell me if kernel 2.6.20 available for edgy07:03
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Dr_willis!frostwire07:04
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire07:05
Dr_willisruns fine for me07:05
Dr_willisbe sure to use the officla sun java.07:05
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no0bHey guys, how do we open .rar files with linux?07:05
Dr_willis!rar07:05
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free07:05
no0b!info unrar-free07:06
Jucatono0b: install unrar or unrar-free07:06
ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB07:06
Jucatoboth are "free as in beer"07:06
no0bthank you friend07:06
bipolarno0b: 'sudo apt-get install rar unrar'07:06
bipolarno0b: ark will use them automaticly07:06
no0b+)07:06
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no0bAlso, which is the best torrent application?07:07
no0bI am using bittorrent but it seems really slow.07:07
no0blike, 10.5MB's is taking 4 hours07:08
bipolarno0b: I use ktorrent07:08
no0bok07:08
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no0bI try this ktorrent07:08
bipolarno0b: make sure you have ports forwarded07:08
no0bwhere is this option in bittorrent?07:08
bipolarno0b: ktorrent is in stalled by default in kubuntu07:08
bipolarno0b: you can check the config to see what ports it's using, but forwarding the ports requres you to do it manualy on your firewall/router.07:09
bipolarthats the same for all bt clients07:09
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no0bDo I have a firewall?07:10
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no0bYou mean my router getaway?07:10
no0bI can set them there, but I cant find the bittorrent options?07:10
no0bWhere's the bittorrent .exe?07:10
no0bOr, deb07:11
no0blike in program files07:11
bipolarno0b: it's not an .exe. .exe's are windows programs07:12
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bipolarno0b: use the K menu in the bottom left corner.07:13
no0bIt's not there07:13
bipolarK > Internet > Ktorrent (bittorrent client)07:13
no0bUnder internet07:13
bipolarit's not?07:13
bipolarok.07:13
no0bno07:13
bipolaropen up a console07:13
no0bok07:13
bipolarrun 'sudo apt-get install ktorrent'07:13
bipolarit will ask you for your password, then download and install it.07:14
no0bwhat's downloading my torrent at the moment?07:14
bipolarheh, I don't know. I'm not at your desktop :)07:14
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bipolaryou are running Kubuntu, right?07:14
no0byes, with bittorrent07:14
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no0bidk07:14
no0bwtf?07:14
no0bok Ill run sudo apt-get install ktorrent07:15
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Daskreechno0b: it's already installed if you installed kubuntu-desktop07:15
no0bI remember removing it07:16
bipolarI need a way to get an outgoing vnc conection07:16
bipolarno0b: ahh. thats why it's not there.07:16
no0bvia add and remove programs07:16
Daskreechno0b: ktorrent?07:16
no0bbut whats bittorrent?07:16
no0bKtorrent is now installed via sudo apt-get install ktorrent07:16
bipolarno0b: the 'bittorrent' command is a command line program07:16
no0bok07:16
bipolarI doubt you want to use that every day07:17
Daskreechno0b: it's a file transfer protocol that's p2p and open source07:17
no0byeah like demonoid?07:17
no0bman Im glad i got that ktorrent back07:18
no0bI was wondering how the torrent would come down on my computer.07:18
no0bbut now it willl be fine07:18
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Daskreechno0b: Umm not quite that is a site that uses bittorrent :) but sure the two of them work together07:18
no0bthanks guys07:20
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no0bX)07:20
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ZanQdohi07:22
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ZanQdois it a good idea to mount a server in kubuntu?07:23
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Dr_willisya may want to clarify that question.07:23
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ZanQdoyes sorry07:24
no0bguys, when I try to remove Bit Torrent via synaptic package manager it trys and removes the ubuntu desktop aswell?07:24
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ZanQdoI want kubuntu on the server07:24
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no0bNow that I have ktorrent, I no longer want bit torrent07:24
ZanQdojust tu acces the hard drives07:24
ZanQdoand simple stuff like that07:24
Dr_willisno0b,  thats because its part of the meta-pacakcge.., dont worry about removing bittorrent07:24
ZanQdoand if it can read write ntfs then better!07:24
no0bI dont want it on my computet though?07:25
Dr_willisI set up my Ubuntu box to share the users home dirs over Samba all the time.07:25
Dr_willis!ntfs07:25
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse07:25
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Dr_willisno0b,  it dosent matter at all.07:25
no0bok then so dont remove it?07:25
Dr_willisno0b,  may as well leave it. You gain little by removing it.07:25
ZanQdothanks07:25
no0bok then07:25
no0bthank you07:25
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mohaghna111hiya all07:26
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Dr_willisdarn - about time for me to go to work. :(07:26
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tbleekcan someone help me getting sound with flash (firefox) working on amd64?07:27
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BigGamer95salut07:32
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malik__!tv07:33
ubotuhttp://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out07:33
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no0bman Im having problems setting the ktorrent too default program for downloading torrents, the torrents automatically download with bittorrent.07:36
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no0bHow do I change this?07:36
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FahuadaiIs there a perference for ATI over nVidia regarding drivers?  I'm thinking about what card to get for my new machine. Going for SLI/Crossfire PCI-E cards.  Geforce7 series or something simular with ATI07:37
no0babout 2 hours too download 5 MB's @ 128kbs?07:37
no0bbit torrent is garbage07:38
greg_gno0b: right click on the .torrent file, click on the wrench icon next to the file type, there is a list of applications and preference order07:39
greg_gno0b: don't use it if you think it is garbage07:39
BluesKajno0b, the client doesn't determine the speed unless the setup is problematic ...the sources determine the DL speeds07:40
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bipolarno0b: either your ports are not forwarded correctly, or there are no seaders07:40
bipolarmy guess is the latter07:40
bipolarFahuadai: Nvidia. ATI's drivers are crap on linux07:41
Kano_kubuntuwell you can use ati cards too..07:41
Kano_kubuntujust tested my fglrx install script on gutsy test 107:42
Fahuadaithanks bipolar.  Is there support for SLI with nvidia on kubuntu?07:42
bipolarFahuadai: yes07:42
bipolarFahuadai: it's just an option in the config file07:42
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toniglandylhi07:43
FahuadaiOk cool.07:43
bipolarFahuadai: until you enable it, you might get some weirdness like booting on one video prot, and X showing up on another. :)07:43
Kano_kubuntuFahuadai: do you use ati right now?07:43
bipolarI've been burned by ati drivers so many times it's not funny. I can never recomenend them and will never buy one ever again.07:44
_4strO;)07:45
FahuadaiI've always used nvidia07:45
Fahuadaibut still quite new to linux07:45
toniglandylexcuse me, but how can I make beryl load on startup ?07:45
FahuadaiI've always used AMD cpu's, and with AMD perchasing ATI not that long ago I was thikning about giving them a try07:46
bipolartoniglandyl: put the beryl manager in your startup folder :D07:46
Kano_kubuntubipolar: recommend not, but they work with a single script...07:46
no0boi I have no choice but too use it aye07:46
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Kano_kubuntuHost/Kernel/OS  "ubuntu" running Linux 2.6.22-6-generic i686 [ Ubuntu gutsy (development branch) ] 07:46
Kano_kubuntuCPU Info        AMD Athlon XP 2800+ clocked at [ 2088.150 MHz ] 07:46
Kano_kubuntuVideocard       ATI Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]   X.Org 1.3.0  [ 1280x1024 @75hz ] 07:46
Kano_kubuntuProcesses 101 | Uptime 17min | Memory 175.6/1011.4MB | HDD Size 80GB (0%used) | GLX Renderer RADEON 9800 PRO | GLX Version 2.0.6473 (8.37.6) | Client Konversation 1.0.1 | Infobash v2.6507:46
Kano_kubuntubinary driver just installed07:46
Kano_kubuntulive cd still07:46
toniglandylbipolar, where is that folder ?07:46
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Jucato!paste | Kano_kubuntu07:47
ubotuKano_kubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:47
Kano_kubuntunot the ubunut method, the kanotix one ;)07:47
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Kano_kubuntubye07:47
bipolartoniglandyl: It was half a joke, but I think that kde will start things in the "Autostart" folder in your home directory. maybe it's .Autostart or something like that. I don't use it.07:48
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toniglandyloh ok. sorry, i'm totally new to all this :p07:48
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bipolartoniglandyl: found it07:50
bipolartoniglandyl: it's ~/.kde/Autostart07:50
Jucato!autostart07:50
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.07:50
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bipolarlol07:50
bipolaryeah, that.07:51
no0bthx guys07:51
toniglandylthanks07:51
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ZanQdohttp://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition07:58
ZanQdothis sounds cool ^07:58
DarkEDhey all07:59
DarkEDhow do i change the color of my desktop icons?07:59
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DarkEDer, fonts07:59
DarkEDsorry07:59
DarkEDthey are black right now but i want to use a dark wallpaper so i need them white07:59
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mzanfardinoI work in an environement where the only printer is a shared resource on served by a windows xp box.  I've shared the printer and now want to attach to it.  I'm running kubuntu fiesty with cups installed, but I'm having some difficulties.  any suggests for a how-to?08:00
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stevec_!cups08:04
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:04
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sparrw[how]  can I make konqueror open .htm files as web pages from http:// sources, but in an editor from other sources?08:06
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VampBoiMy Kubuntu isn't giving power to my NIC it sees the NIC but no power to it.  Nic is a Tulip 308:08
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user_hello08:09
sparrwVampBoi: NICs get power straight from the pci bus, has nothing to do with the OS.  if the link lights dont work then its a hardware problem08:10
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OlliKaziz08:11
VampBoithen why does it work fine in Knoppix?08:11
VampBoiand windows :S08:11
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hesterhave locked adept database due to error in sources.list file. any ideas how to fix08:12
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ejortegauhey08:12
ejortegaussup08:12
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BluesKajhester, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a08:13
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BluesKajclose adept first08:13
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DexterFhi08:13
ejortegauquestion: i'm trying to deny access to a directory in apache2. i created a .htaccess on that dir, with directives deny from all and order deny, allow. still, users can get in. is there anything else i should do08:13
bipolarCan someone out there please ping dev.longbros.com and tell me what it resoves to?08:13
DexterFgot a lil trouble running the korgac module and having it stay. shouldn't it be in kicker applets?08:13
ZanQdowhats the diference betwen Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 201108:14
DexterFZanQdo: *that's* the difference. 3yr vs 5yr support08:14
bipolarZanQdo: the 6.06 release is a long term support one.08:14
ejortegau216.164.162.14008:14
horstmachinehi08:14
ZanQdosuport?08:14
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ZanQdowhat suport?08:14
bipolarejortegau: thank you. something is fubard in my dns settings08:14
ejortegaubipolar: np08:14
jhutchins_ltsparrw: The link lights don't come on unless the drivers are successfully loaded.08:15
DexterFZanQdo: like security updates, patches etc08:15
ZanQdommm08:15
ejortegauZanQdo: support like free security updates via adept/apt-get/synaptic/whatever u like08:15
ZanQdoso they will stop the services for that version after a given number of years08:15
sparrwjhutchins: false.  link lights work even when the PC is turned off.  PCI trickle power is plenty, and every NIC that honors the PCI standard will use it08:15
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sparrwjhutchins_lt: ^^08:16
ZanQdoI dont get it...08:16
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hesterBluesKaj, have done that, does not work. any other ideas08:16
jhutchins_ltsparrw: You may have one that works like that, but of the thousands of NIC's I've seen, most don't.  It's one of the ways you can tell if NIC is working.08:17
BluesKajhester , is adept frozen ?08:17
sparrwjhutchins_lt: so most of your computers can't wake on lan?08:17
ZanQdothey are both free right?08:17
ejortegauZanQdo: yes08:18
ZanQdothen why should I download ?08:18
ZanQdoI mean08:18
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ZanQdowho08:18
jhutchins_ltsparrw: Not just my own, I've been a network engineer.  And no, most don't use wake-on-lan.08:19
ZanQdohe need to sleep I guess, loosing my english08:19
hesterBluesKaj, no it gives a error saying the database is locked and I should use atp-setup or apt-get update in terminal which I hvae done. same result08:19
ZanQdooh 7.04 is the new version with ntfs suport08:19
ZanQdowill get that one08:19
Jucato!adeptfix | hester08:19
ubotuhester: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:19
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Fahuadaialso check your process list, see if the apt process is still running. i've killed it and unlocked the DB before08:20
jhutchins_ltFahuadai: That's what the fuser command is supposed to do, see who owns the lockfile.08:20
jhutchins_lt!apt-fix08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
jhutchins_lt!aptfix08:21
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 08:21
sparrwjhutchins_lt: i didnt ask about use.  if what you say is true then most would not be capable of wake on lan.08:21
jhutchins_ltsparrw: Probably.  Never been an issue for the places I worked.08:21
BluesKajok hester , do you have any special repos for apps not available in the default sources list...I know it's usind a sledge to hammer a tack but if the prob persists maybe you should just replace the sources.list08:22
sparrwi dont think ive seen a non-HP computer without WoL in a decade08:22
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hesterubuto, have done. does not work, still locked. weird08:22
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FahuadaiOh yeah.... Thats a cool and useful cmd.08:22
Cavallekis possible to rollback after upgrade ? :)08:22
FahuadaiThank08:22
jhutchins_ltsparrw: I suspect you haven't seen many computers then.  Relatively.08:23
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VampBoiso anyone have any ideas?08:23
FahuadaiHester, ubuto is an AI bot.... he's kinda clever though. ;)08:23
Fahuadai!feed08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
DexterF!korgac08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about korgac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
DexterFdamn08:23
Fahuadaiah... forgotten how to feed him hehehe08:23
sparrwjhutchins: considering my line of work, i would call your suspicion suspect  :)08:23
sparrwjhutchins_lt: ^^ (and your ghost is annoying)08:24
DexterFkorgac won't show up here in the systray, no clue why. pointers?08:24
sparrwas is mine, im sure  :)08:24
hesterBluesKaj, I deleted the broken sources.list file and replaced it with the old one, but the system somewhere registrers the old fault and does not read the update08:24
jhutchins_ltsparrw: I think I've seen one PCI NIC with a WOL connection - but the motherboard didn't have a corresponding connector.08:24
jhutchins_ltI have a box full of carbus/pcmcia cards, all without WOL.08:24
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sparrwvery odd08:25
BluesKajhester, have you deleted the data in the sources.list completely ?08:25
CavallekIm getting white screen. How I can get to console ?08:25
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jhutchins_ltIf I connect this laptop to my switch, it won't light unless I load the drivers for the onboard nic.08:25
sparrwall 3 that ive got handy, 2 pci and 1 pcix, have WoL08:25
sparrwguess we shop different places08:25
hesterBlueKaj, no, should I do tha?08:25
CavallekIm getting white screen. How I can get to console ?08:27
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kim_I got banned for saying you bastard onse... Is that right?08:31
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BluesKajhester yes , I've done it ...just open sources lista s root ..edit/select all , delete ,then replace with the text from sourc-o-matic : http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/08:34
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donhello08:36
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hesterBluesKaj, Thanks will try.08:40
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jose__hi08:43
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venik212I heard that you can send files using GAIM (Yahoo protocol), but it seems not to work.08:44
venik212Can anyone help?08:44
jhutchins_ltvenik212: Sorry, don't use gaim.08:44
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jhutchins_ltvenik212: A lot of systems are firewalled so that those file transfers and things like DCC won't work.08:45
venik212I tried it in Kopete, and no go there as well08:45
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jack-;x08:46
jack-someone tell this noob about annoyment08:46
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PriceChild!away > [Selfsearcher] 08:47
PriceChild!noob | jack-08:47
ubotujack-: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.08:47
jack-:)08:48
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Fahuadaijfgi? never heard that one before....08:48
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Fahuadaiahh... *has googled jfgi and was amused*08:50
BluesKajjust f***ing google it08:51
DexterF"noob" is not welcome *here*? :D08:51
BluesKajbah08:51
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GobsheeneHi folks08:52
GobsheeneDoes anyone know of a fairly good video editing prog for Kubuntu?08:53
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xmanHello World :)08:53
Gobsheeneand where I can get it?08:53
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jhutchins_ltGobsheene: avidemux, cinelerra (sp?)08:53
BluesKajavidemux08:53
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GobsheeneWill those let me edit mp4's?08:54
jhutchins_lt!info avidemux08:54
ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB08:54
Gobsheeneand indeed mpgs08:54
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jhutchins_lt!info cinelerra08:54
ubotuPackage cinelerra does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:54
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xmanCan i ask something here or should i ask somebody in particular ?08:54
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jhutchins_lt!ask08:55
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:55
brunohola08:55
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Gobsheeneguys cheers for the help !!! :P08:55
xmanWho is broken: me or my computer ?08:55
brunomi primera ves08:55
brunonadie habla espaol?08:56
Gobsheenelol @ Xman, whats up man?08:56
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jhutchins_lt!es | bruno08:56
ubotubruno: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:56
BluesKajxman, you expect an answer ? :)08:56
xmanHere it comes !08:56
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brunogracias08:56
xmanMy PC is not "actually doing something"08:56
Gobsheenespeaking as an admin in windows for a living,,, 99% of the time its the user! lol08:56
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Gobsheenex ok.... start at the start08:57
Gobsheenethe machine is powered off08:57
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xmanIt just eats my cpu with god knows what ...08:57
xmanNo, i'm powered off :)08:57
Gobsheeneit powers up yeah?08:57
BluesKajthe suspense is killing me ....  :)08:57
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Gobsheenelol the sarcasim is rife :P08:58
xmanCan you imagine that copying a file eats 100% CPU ?08:58
xmanI copy something from a to b08:58
xmanBOOM08:58
xman100%08:58
jhutchins_ltxman: Try using top to see what's using it.08:58
xmanNothing08:58
xman1-2 apps up to 12-15%08:59
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xmanI can't get Linux to be "FAST" on this PC08:59
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xmanI'm trying since 6-7 years but no way ...08:59
xmanBack and forth, back and forth ...09:00
Gobsheenewhat spec is the pc?09:00
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xmanGet this: cpu 1.1GHz duron, yeah, old fart09:00
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xman256Mb main mem09:00
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xman200Gb 8Mb cache Seagate 7200.809:01
xman600+ swap09:01
Gobsheenehmmm09:01
Gobsheenemuch better than mine anyhow...09:01
Gobsheenehave you tried a reinstalation using the minimumsetting?09:01
BluesKajwow , big drive small mem09:01
xmanNow what really boggles me is that XP on this config runs like greased09:02
Gobsheenesomeof the other guys might help you more09:02
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Gobsheenewell my machine is a P3 600mhz 288mb Ram 12GB hdd...09:02
Gobsheeneand Kubuntu runs Very well (Y)09:02
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Fahuadaigobsheene: awww. cutie!09:02
xmanI've used distros from like 2k onwards and i know some *nux stuff09:02
Gobsheenelol yes its my old old old oooooooooooooooold laptop09:03
Fahuadaithis an amd sempron 3000+ 512MB09:03
xmanBut this machine is really getting to me ...09:03
Gobsheenebuy a new machine :>09:03
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Fahuadaixman: tried other distros?09:03
Fahuadaigentoo/slack/suse etc?09:04
xmanImagine, i get to copy to my USB stick at about 40K-200someK with 100% cpu09:04
xmancursor allmost stuck09:04
xmanwtf ?09:04
Gobsheenexman... i've had problems trying to run on a Celeron processor in the past09:04
xmanall distros, same distros ..09:04
Gobsheeneis this just happening on USB??????????09:04
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xmani've ran 'nux since 2.209:04
gdiebelxman: what does top tell you?09:04
Fahuadaihe said any file copy eats cpu09:04
xmanGet this09:04
xmanK3B writes CD/DVD at 4-8Mb/sec with 1% CPU09:05
BluesKajxman, there is something defintely amiss with your install..Kubuntu should run fine on that machine09:05
xmanbut a lame copy of a random file - BOOM09:05
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xmanIt's my machine09:05
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xmanI feel it in my bones09:06
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xmanBut how do i find out what ?09:06
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xmanHow do i make it work ?09:06
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Fahuadaihave any file corruptions or data loss?09:06
xmanNope !09:06
xmanCheck this out09:06
FahuadaiGot spare hardware to test individual parts with?09:07
xmanMobo: Abit KT7A09:07
xmanA known problemmaker since back in the days ...09:07
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xmanI don't have spare parts09:07
xmanI can't really afford a new PC right now ...09:07
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Fahuadaiwas going to suggest seeing if you had same problem with a different hdd.09:08
xmanI had 3 HDDs since and same prob ...09:08
gdiebelxman: try posting your "lspci -v" and "lsusb -v"09:08
xmanwhere ?09:08
xmanhere ?09:08
gdiebel!paste09:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:08
BluesKaj!pastebin09:08
draremi'm no expert, but what prob was that xman09:09
jhutchins_ltxman: What are you using to copy the file? cp?09:09
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xmanlspci -v09:09
xman00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]  (rev 03)09:09
xman        Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. KT7/KT7-RAID/KT7A/KT7A-RAID Mainboard09:09
xman        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 809:09
xman        Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] 09:09
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gdiebelxman: refer to line about pastebin above09:10
xmanyeah, i guess i'm blind09:10
xmansorry people, really09:10
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xmani do have baad eyes tho09:11
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jhutchins_ltxman: So get yer screen out of 2040x1186 mode.09:12
xmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24616/09:12
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xmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24616/ ?09:12
xman2040*1186 ?09:12
xmanhuh ?09:12
xman1152*864 @ 85 here09:13
jhutchinsxman: And you wonder why you can't read the text.09:14
eaglehawkhello everybody09:14
jhutchinsxman: jk.09:14
xmanHP P123009:14
xman21"09:14
jhutchinsxman: Seriously, what are you using to copy files?09:14
eaglehawkanybody who can helpme with blocked port 8009:14
jhutchinsxman: No wonder you can't afford spare hardware.09:15
xmankde/gnome/mc/cp whatever09:15
xmansame result ...09:15
xmanhey, second-hand unit09:15
jhutchinsxman: Seriously, cp goes to 100%?  What if you run it in pure console mode without X running?09:15
Fahuadaianyone recommend a graphical system monitor tool, which shows cpu temp/cpu load/ mem useage?09:15
xmani bought it some 2-3 years ago for $19009:15
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jhutchinsFahuadai: gkrellm09:16
xmanjhutchins, same thing09:16
jhutchinsxman: RAM?09:16
xmankrells, i like krells09:16
eaglehawkanybody who can helpme with blocked port 8009:16
jhutchinseaglehawk: Help you how?09:16
xman2x128Mb SDram 13309:16
DarkEDhey all, what's the package name for flash9 in the repos?09:17
DarkEDflashplugin-nonfree?09:17
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jhutchinsxman: You may want to run memcheck overnight on 'em.09:17
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eaglehawkwell i am able to use xchat to talk in irc but cannot browse09:17
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xmanWHY ?09:17
jhutchinsxman: Find a lightweight CD to test alternate systems with it.09:17
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xmanLIKE ?09:17
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DarkED!info flashplugin-nonfree09:17
jhutchinsxman: 'cause if cp is havig the same problem it's likely to be a hardware issue.09:17
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)09:18
xmanI know it's a hardware issue09:18
jhutchinsxman: It's possible there's something wrong with the chipset drivers.09:18
xmanYou think ?09:18
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jhutchinsxman: Memcheck would be easy to do.09:18
xmani'd ssay the hardware09:18
xmani did memcheck from the boot CD09:19
jhutchinsIt's worth trying things like tomsrtbt or knoppix, see if things are different.09:19
xmanwith fedora too09:19
jhutchinsxman: Right, it checked ok?09:19
xmanInstall or live, no change09:19
jhutchinsxman: Are the disks in good shape, fsck ok?09:19
xmanis it some IRQ conflict ?09:19
xmanYup, disks OK09:19
jhutchinsxman: Probably not IRQ.09:19
jhutchinsxman: Do you have a seperate controller?09:20
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xmanI did some "tests" with even ext2 as a FS to see if faster, guess what: NO09:20
eaglehawk<jhutchins> well i am able to use xchat to talk in irc but cannot browse as I get TIMEOUT server respond...I think it is because port 80 is blocked on my side...is there a way to redirect the browser to anyother port so i can browse the web09:20
BluesKajDark ' flash player'09:20
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xmanAs my mobo saw only upto 127Gb i bought an ITE821209:20
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ubuntu__hello, Is there a way in  Kubuntu to safely remove a printer?09:20
xmanBut i had the same issue previously09:21
xmanSo what's with my mobo ?09:21
jhutchinsxman: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html or http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance might be helpful.09:21
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xmanEIDE mode 5 now and ever09:22
xmannot some dma problem09:22
gdiebelxman: also try "sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda" where sda is your hard drive and paste it09:22
jhutchinseaglehawk: There are proxy servers running on alternate ports that you can use, that's about the only way around it.09:22
jhutchinseaglehawk: Consider that if port 80 is blocked and you subvert the blocking, you may get into some serious trouble.09:22
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eaglehawk<jhutchins> will codeen network proxies do the trick09:23
ubuntu__How do you safely remove a printer with Kubuntu?09:23
jhutchinsubuntu__: Unplug it, pick it up, carry it off.09:23
xmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24619/09:24
Gobsheene... my Adpet Manager has descided that something else is using the adept service :(09:24
Gobsheenebut as far as I can see... notthing is09:25
xmanMaybe some bios settings ?09:25
Gobsheene*using the packaging system database09:25
jhutchins!aptfix | Gobsheene09:25
ubotuGobsheene: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:25
gdiebelxman: also in regards to your concern about slow copy to usb stick, that fits since your usb is only 1.109:26
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GobsheeneAhhhh would a database lock cause this program then?09:26
Gobsheene(Y) Excelent i'll try that09:26
jhutchinsGobsheene: Yes.09:26
xmanYeah, OK, 1.109:26
xmanbut 100% CPU09:26
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xmanand it goes for another minute or so after the copy has finished ?09:27
xmanCall me crazy and feed me prozac09:27
gdiebelxman start copying something and paste your 'ps aux'09:27
GobsheeneJhutchins... that seems to have done sometihng alright lol09:28
BluesKajdunno if this relavent, but the HDD is 7200 rpm on a mobo that was designed 5400 rpm hdd09:28
GobsheeneBlue... chances are that that HDD may only run at a max of 5400 in that case :)09:28
GobsheeneI may be wrong though09:29
jhutchinsGobsheene: Unlikely.09:29
jhutchinsGobsheene: Speed is up to the drive, not the controller.09:29
BluesKajwouldn't ti still tax some CPU resources09:29
BluesKajit09:29
xmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24621/09:29
xmanusing krusader09:29
jhutchinsIt's a point though that if the drive is flooding the controller it could cause a slowdown.09:29
Gobsheenehutchins... ah, every day is a schoolday!09:29
BluesKajsort of bottleneck in the stream09:30
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Gobsheenejhutchins, would that command you gave me kick off any of the updates that had been scheduled before/while the Adept DB was locked?09:31
gdiebelxman: not sure if you tried this yet: 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda'09:31
jhutchinsxman: It's possible that you could play around with hdparm and find something that helps, but you might also look into getting an IDE controller card, see what that does.09:31
xmanWhat thruotput do you guys get on copy and with what cpu burnrate ?09:31
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pvandewyngaerdehow do i upgrade to 7.10 alfa  ?09:31
jhutchinsGobsheene: No, it just removes the lockfile.09:31
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xmanHDD using ide  mode 5 AKA DMA100 for real.09:32
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Gobsheeneok, its just running certain things :)09:32
Gobsheeneksysguard09:32
xmanI allready have a good IDE cntrlr and the problem shows with/without it09:32
jhutchinsxman: It's possible that there is a setting that is not what you think the optimum should be, but actually works better.09:33
BluesKajGobsheene, now do yer sudo apt-get update ...you should be ok09:33
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Gobsheenethanks blue :)09:33
xmanjhutchins: Which one ?09:33
jhutchinsxman: So onboard, offboard, you've tried both.09:33
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xmanYUP09:33
jhutchinsxman: You'll have to experiment.09:33
pvandewyngaerdehow do i install gutsy alpha ?09:33
payamhi09:33
xmanYeah, 6 years of it09:34
payamI wana inslatt my Camera on Kubuntu09:34
xmanI'm tired09:34
payamHow should i do that?09:34
xmanAnd i have other things to do with the $ than buy a new machine ...09:34
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jhutchinsI can copy large video files around without any problems on a 1.8GHz AMD that's... Oh, that's right, replaced last year.09:34
jhutchinsI had bad capacitors on my K7M.09:35
xmanAt how many Mb/ssec and cpu usage ?09:35
jhutchinsSame CPU though.09:35
BluesKaj!gutsygibbon | pvandewyngaerde09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gutsygibbon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
jhutchinsxman: Too fast to check.09:35
xmanDamn !09:35
BluesKaj!kubuntu 7.1009:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu 7.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:35
xman1.2 Gb took rouhly 1Hr09:35
jhutchinsxman: Is this only drive-to-drive or is it samedrive too?09:35
xmanDrive2drive, drive/samedrive - same09:36
jhutchinsxman: Shoot, I can do 1.2G over my lan faster than that.09:36
xmanI did esperiment09:36
xmani can't get past 4Mb/sec at 100% cpu09:36
draremfor developing gui apps, is the general consensus to use kdevelop / Qt ?09:36
xmanand XP did it at 35-45Mb/sec09:37
jhutchinsxman: Check your cables too.09:37
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xmanCan you feel my wrath ?09:37
xmanI did replace'em09:37
jhutchinsreplace != check09:37
xmanHUH ?09:37
BluesKajpvandewyngaerde, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/kubuntu/dvd/current/09:38
pvandewyngaerdeBluesKaj: can't i just upgrade ?09:38
payamDo you know how i can instala a webcam to my kubuntu?09:38
xmansame hardware: XP-max45Mb/sec@max40%cpu      "nux-4Mb/sec@100%cpu09:38
gdiebelxman: is your kernel giving errors? paste 'tail -n100 /var/log/messages09:38
payamDo you know how i can instala a webcam to my kubuntu?09:39
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Gobsheenejhutchins, sorry to bug you again man, but that command is still running...09:39
payamDo you know how i can instala a webcam to my kubuntu?09:39
BluesKajpayam, plug it in and see what happens09:39
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xmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24624/09:39
payamnothing happens09:39
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BluesKajthen look for the drivers and install them09:40
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xmanThe nice thing about "nux is thet with/without net it's just as smooth (unlike XP)09:41
xmanTrouble for me, smooth as an 38609:41
xmanAny kernel, hw guru around ?09:41
xmanI asked same question on forums since ages09:42
xmanAll i've got was dodged answers09:42
xmanLike: you are sure you use DMA ?09:42
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xmanYeah, well, like since 10 yrs ago ...09:43
xmanBut how do you explain this ?09:43
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eeanis it possible to remove Amarok without removing kubuntu-desktop?09:44
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eean(I'm installing Amarok from source)09:44
xman4-8 Mb/sec@2-5% cpu on burning2disk ?09:44
gdiebelxman: don't mean to impose, but if you have been dealing with these issues for up to 10 years, perhaps you should consider a new box, one can be found for around 200 dollars09:44
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jhutchinsxman: cp 832MB file:09:44
jhutchins0.04user 6.24system 0:46.21elapsed 13PU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k09:44
jhutchins0inputs+0outputs (4major+230minor)pagefaults 0swaps09:44
xmanI haven't used linux all the time for this long09:44
BluesKajpayam, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41079209:44
xmanjust playing with it09:45
xmanjust lately switched 100%09:45
morlaHi there. Does someone here have a Canon PIXMA IP 3300 printer?09:45
gdiebelxman: is there anything unusual with: 'cat /var/log/messages|grep sda' ?09:45
xmanso the problem was not stringent09:45
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jhutchinsxman: You could probably get a newer MB for that chip pretty cheap.09:46
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GobsheeneGuys.... my adpet problem is fixed!!!09:46
Gobsheenethanks soo much!!09:46
Gobsheeneadept**09:46
xmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24626/09:46
morlaI bought it today, it doesnt print. The LED signalls some warning, but I dont know what it means. The manual can only be read in windows and OSX09:46
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xmanIt's not worth it to upgrade. I better buy a new PC09:47
SiggimundHi there - when some body got the time . Just swicthed to kde instead of gnome. Auto mounting ntfs (ro) drives are they disabled in krusader as aposed to Gnome/ubuntu?09:47
xmanJust that for the moment (next months, like 6) my $ is channeled elsewhere09:47
xmanYou know, like life ...09:48
BluesKajmorla, did you try to run the printer wizard in system settings/printers ?09:48
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morlaBluesKaj: yep, of course :) I made it use Gutenprint's IP4000 driver, linuxprinting sais it works.09:48
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morlaBluesKaj: it seems there is an other problem, it doesnt suck in paper. instead i get a flashing red light09:49
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acemokopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this?09:50
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BluesKajok morla , i had to ask...try unplugging the printer power cord after turning it off , then on again ...it just might need a reset.09:50
sourcemakerhi at all09:51
BluesKajthe try the testprint again09:51
jhutchinsxman: Seriously, $10/$20 on ebay.  I'm gettin' 133MB/sec.09:51
payamhi to alla NOT at all09:51
morlaBluesKaj: hm I'll try that. Do you own a PIXMA class printer? Do you know what the button on the front does?09:51
sourcemakerare you using KDE 3.5.6 or 3.5.7?09:51
acemosourcemaker: 3.5.609:52
BluesKajmorla, no but i've gone thru a few printers in my time and they all  usually act the same way09:52
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xmanjhutchins: EBAY? No such thing here, but for $25-30 i could get such mobo ...09:52
xmanBut what would be the point ?09:52
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xmanTo get another "junk" PC around ?09:53
morlaBluesKaj: ok. It's just that some thing are a mistery to me, but without windows I cannot read the manual!09:53
BluesKajmorla , press it and see what happens09:53
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morlaBluesKaj: nothing.. I believe it could be the "suck-paper-in" button, but nothing happenes.. Maybe there is something wrong with the paper tray09:54
sourcemakerHow can I download youtube videos? I have tried a mozilla plugin, but it is not working very well ???09:54
xmanI planned on getting meself a brand new A64X2@4600+@2Gb RAM but it'' have to wait ...09:54
acemokopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this? havent tried file transfers.. but amsn works perfectly with cam (besides the fact auto coloring aint working)09:55
xmanUntill then, i'll have to develop some patience, patience, patience09:55
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acemoxman: maybe the amd quad core are out by that time, could be nice to keep an eye on that.. would be a waste buying A64X2@4600+ a week before the quad cores come out09:56
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jhutchinsxman: Get a different MB, if that solves your problem sell the problem MB.09:57
xmanYeah, well, i'll allready wait like 6 months so ...09:57
tarzeausledge: who are the morons ruining debian?09:57
jhutchinsxman: Worth your time to triple your speed.09:57
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acemoxman: i dont mean wait 2-3 months for it..09:57
acemoxman: just when u got the money.. check for any news/rumors about when there supposed to get released and then decide if its worth the waiting09:58
jhutchinsI guess I got a pretty good price on this kw7, they're not cheap.09:58
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xmanjhutchins: I would rather burn the darn thing than even giving it for free09:58
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BluesKajtarzeau,  know it all snobs with no time for probs ...the std response there is read the manpages ..I went thru it too :)09:58
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xmanI do not give defective stuff09:58
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xmanacemo: a 4600+ is allmost $200 here NOW09:59
jhutchinsxman: Not having good linux drivers != defective.  Useless maybe.09:59
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null_kuhlguys i have just installed linuxant driver loader for wlan driver on linux,, everything isfine and after loading my wlan windows drivers i have this msgs  Kernel module ipw3945 overridden by netw39x5. where ipw is the linux driver and netw39x5 is the windows one , how to fix this ? plz helpppp09:59
xmanYeah, well, it broke 2 HDDs untill now ...09:59
xman1 Quantum Fireball 8G that worked fine on a previous K6-2 board10:01
xmanAnd Another 20Gb Fireball 7K2 RPM later10:01
null_kuhlguys hello10:01
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xmanSuch is life ....10:01
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jhutchinsxman: Fix it or quitcherbitchin.10:02
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xmanBesides getting a new one ?10:02
xmanHow ?10:02
acemokopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this? havent tried file transfers.. but amsn works perfectly with cam10:03
xmanThat's why i'm here10:03
rolnxyz_acemo: and kopete doesn't send emoticons10:03
xmanMaybe someone knows something on how to workaround or something about this issue10:04
acemorolnxyz_: kopete sends emoticons perfectly here10:04
rolnxyz_what10:04
rolnxyz_must be a new feature10:04
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rolnxyz_yep May 25 200710:05
rolnxyz_finaly, I don't know what took so long10:05
acemorolnxyz_: i mean emoticons work.. dun know bout custom icons.. but why im writing my problem is because cam and file transfers used to work perfectly10:06
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KobaltsI got a Segmentation fault (core dumped) ... anyone know where the core file is saved to?10:12
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payamWhat shoul i do for  install a webcam on mu kubuntu?10:13
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ubuntu__espaoles ak?10:21
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ardchoille!es10:22
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:22
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ubuntu__gracias10:23
acemokopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this, and how to fix it?10:23
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deminemidoes anyone know of any good mailing lists or forums for comedi/RTAI ?10:26
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jrickIs anyone familiar with using Mailody (www.mailody.net)?  I have a problem with it and SMTP and would like some help.10:28
jrickwww.mailody.net10:29
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jrickI have an email account on Runbox, but i cannot get SMTP to send any mails with it at all.10:30
monfissom tu jacy polacy10:30
null_kuhlguys i have just installed linuxant driver loader for wlan driver on linux,, everything isfine and after loading my wlan windows drivers i have this msgs  Kernel module ipw3945 overridden by netw39x5. where ipw is the linux driver and netw39x5 is the windows one , how to fix this ? plz helpppp10:31
jrickIt works in KMail, but I don't like kmail's imap support.10:31
null_kuhlany ideA ??10:31
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monfispolakw gdzie znajde10:32
acemo!pl10:32
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl10:32
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monfisdzienki10:34
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NecroAdTrying to install a program called "sauerbraten" -- and when I type ./sauerbraten_unix like it tells me to do in the konsole, I get this error: "./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"10:43
NecroAdAny help..?10:43
bbeck_I was wondering if anyone knew how to save the text position for the toolbar in kate.  I can set it, but when I reenter the program the defaults are set.10:43
khaije1!nwn10:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nwn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:44
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khaije1NecroAd: i'm not sure what the issue is w/ that but i'm having trouble running a game also10:45
demineminecro, my guess is that you don't have that library image, you should probably google around, or look at documentation10:46
deminemisee where you can get it10:46
acemokhaije1: neverwinternights? it runs on wine quite well here..10:46
NecroAdReet, I'll look it up10:46
deminemi<3 google10:46
NecroAdHaha, indeed10:46
khaije1acemo: i've never needed to do that before though, not only that but i use amd64 so i'm not even sure that wine is an option for me10:46
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zug_salut tout le monde10:47
zug_besoin d'aide !10:47
acemokhaije1: idk then.. sowwy10:48
khaije1i would play all the time, and i'm not really sure what changed frankly10:48
khaije1do you play acemo?10:48
acemoused to.. but i never really understood the dice stuff.. (1d6 for attack, i always thinking that was a bug in my pirated version..), ill prolly start playing again if i can get the original cd sometime..10:50
khaije1thats just one dice with six sides10:50
khaije1so up to 6, and as low as 1, 3d4 would mean as low as 3 and as high as 1210:51
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acemokhaije1: yeah.. i know now since a mate of me showed me a users book from D&D3.5 but it was quite confusing for me back then ^^10:51
khaije1then you can figure the avg's10:51
khaije1ah yes indeed :-)10:51
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acemodont got much time for playing games lately tho..10:52
acemoi got the crazy idea to create my own game few weeks ago.. spending all my free time in it so far.. managed to get a little chat client so far ^^10:52
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leiarA programme I want to install demands libc6 >=2.4-1, my version of libc6 is 1.4. How do I meet these demands?10:53
khaije1acemo: oh cool, what genre?10:53
NecroAdOh dear, I got my sauerbraten game to work... with 2 fps : S10:53
acemokhaije1: thinking of a mmorpg.. probably 45% view (diagonal from top)10:54
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acemokhaije1: probably mideival times or such.. i love the dungeons and dragons style stuff.. too bad its lisenced tho..10:56
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demineminice :)10:58
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acemothe game will be totaly platform independent, using Java and OpenGL.. thinking of using QT for Java.. think its worth it?10:59
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maddops770Afternoon11:01
acemoafternoon maddops11:02
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alan_saskatoonhi11:02
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] {ittisa] {hello all11:03
SolifugusI installed the KDE4 packages from Adept and rebooted but everything looks the same.. What am I missing?11:03
jhutchinsSolifugus: It'll crash, wait for it.11:03
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deminemilol11:03
acemosolifugus: you need to add kde4 as a possible session first11:03
Solifugusjhutchins: Thus why I installed it in a VM11:03
deminemido the boot-up options tell which gui to load?11:03
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Solifugusacemo: how can i do that?11:04
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acemohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php see here for instructions11:04
acemoit crashes for me tho11:04
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ahmed rmmod -v ipw394511:04
ahmedERROR: Module ipw3945 does not exist in /proc/modules11:04
ahmedguys pls help11:04
Solifugusacemo: thanks11:05
maddops770how many rookies and how many seasoned vets of kubuntu are there here?11:05
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maddops770Rookie11:05
alan_saskatoondoes anyone know about Kate templates?11:05
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deminemihow do you categorize rookie and seasoned vet ?11:05
maddops770rookie brand new to less than a month.11:06
acemoSolifugus: let me know if it works for you11:06
maddops770In linux.  Vets are linux users for long time.11:06
deminemii'm right around a month, to linux in general, so i will say rookie :)11:06
keith_is there a ready to install G++ language to be used with Zope/Plone11:06
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alan_saskatoonlinuxbomb: Vet (1997) Kubuntu (rookie)11:06
maddops770I like kubuntu much better than ubuntu, considering that kubuntu actually runs on my box.11:07
ahmedrmmod ipw3945 ,  ERROR: Module ipw3945 does not exist in /proc/modules GUYS PLZZ HELPPP11:07
maddops770ahmed what are you trying to install?11:08
deminemirmmod = remove module ?11:08
ahmedndiswrapper..11:08
ahmedi installed it11:08
ahmedbut now i can modeprobe it11:08
maddops770ah.  Then it would mean that ipw3945 wouldn't be in that directory.11:08
ahmedcause the old driver (restricted one )11:08
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maddops770Right?11:09
ahmedisstill theere11:09
ahmedthough i disabled it from restriced driver manager11:09
ahmedyea11:09
ahmedsoo wat now11:10
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deminemisudo rm =D11:10
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maddops770So I've got a question to anyone who might know.  I've tried KMplayer, Mplayer, Kaffiene and none of them seem to like my DVDs.  Any ideas?11:11
keith_I am looking for a Umbuto G++ that could be installed wtih Adept11:11
maddops770Nothing in Adept Manager?11:12
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keith_nope11:12
acemomaddops770: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability11:12
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maddops770I see 9 compilers in *MY* Adept manager.11:12
keith_are they G++11:12
maddops770Gotcha.  Special flavor.11:13
keith_or I guess it is also called GNC c++11:13
maddops770Thanks Acemo!11:13
maddops770Then I see 4 of them.11:13
keith_are they list under Developement11:13
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acemomaddops770: youre welcome, since youre quite a bit new to kubuntu, might be an idea to bookmark ubuntuguide.org, its a great resource for how to install alot of stuff11:14
jhutchins!find g++11:14
ubotuFound: abiword-gnome, abiword-plugins, abiword-plugins-gnome, akode-dbg, akregator (and 7073 others)11:14
jhutchins!info g++11:14
ubotug++: The GNU C++ compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB11:14
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keith_ok am trying now11:14
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jhutchinskeith_: I'm thinking you'll want build_essentials or something though.11:15
keith_wow where did you find that, i did that search you suggested and got nothing11:15
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intelikeydid find / -exec touch '{}' \;   and got many thousand errors   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3726411:16
keith_I am trying to install Zope/Plone and says   it needs G++ installed11:16
intelikey!build_essential11:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:16
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intelikey!b-e11:16
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:16
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nahemothhi guys I am trying to change something11:16
nahemoth<Action shortcut="Down" name="volume_decrease" />11:16
nahemothin this line11:16
nahemothinstead of Down11:17
maddops770hmmm.  Guess I don't have debhelper for fakeroot11:17
nahemothI wanna make it "scroll down"11:17
nahemothbut dunno what to write11:17
nahemothyou have any idea?11:17
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acemoLicense Pricing (per developer)11:18
acemoOne Platform 142011:18
acemoTwo Platforms 213011:18
acemoThree Platforms 284011:18
acemook..bad idea to even think about using Qt for my game :|11:18
maddops770!fakeroot11:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fakeroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:19
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keith_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:19
keith_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:19
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | keith11:19
ubotukeith: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:19
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katybhello11:20
keith_hahah I guess you need to have atleast half a brain, I still had it open searching for the program11:20
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jhutchinsintelikey: That's at least three today.11:20
intelikeyjhutchins ?11:21
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intelikeyjhutchins an update gone soure ?11:22
jhutchinsNah, I think that's pretty par for the course.11:22
intelikeyjhutchins three what then ?   i'm not sure i fillow11:22
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intelikeyfollow even11:23
jhutchinsThree invocations of adeptfix.  (Though this one was an open program.)11:23
saber_hi11:24
intelikeyoh yeah.  it's very "par for the course" indeed.11:24
saber_i need some arabic fonts11:24
saber_no one seems to answer me11:25
jhutchins!fonts11:25
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer11:25
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keith_hey really thank you for the help, Zope/Plone are installing great now11:25
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saber_i have a serious problem with my mp311:26
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saber_i can play the english files but the arabic file names can't be displayed11:27
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saber_any ideas11:27
intelikeyi'm still getting insmod errors from that command.......11:27
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lwizardlhi11:28
intelikeysaber__  xfonts-intl-arabic - International fonts for X -- Arabic11:28
intelikeythat installed  ?11:28
monfiszbanowali mnie11:29
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saber__i don't know this is the first time i install kubuntu11:29
intelikeyyou might try installing it and see.  it may not help but it can't hurt.11:30
intelikey!info xfonts-intl-arabic11:30
ubotuxfonts-intl-arabic: International fonts for X -- Arabic. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB11:30
saber__plz tell me how to get and install it11:31
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intelikeypackage manager11:31
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saber__k i will try now thanx11:31
intelikeydevfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -1711:32
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StErGi0shello, how can i play .avi ?11:40
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rodrigohello11:40
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rodrigohellou?11:41
rodrigohola11:41
rodrigobonjour?11:41
rodrigoany one is there?11:41
StErGi0syeah11:41
StErGi0sbut i doubt i could help11:41
rodrigoIm a newby in kunbunt11:41
StErGi0snewbie here11:41
rodrigokubuntu11:41
StErGi0sme too..11:41
rodrigoI need help!!!!!!!!!!111:42
rodrigolol11:42
StErGi0slol11:42
rodrigoI feel like a poor naked child11:42
rodrigowith this kubuntu stuff11:42
StErGi0swhat is it aboutr?11:42
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: Post the details of your problem, and if someone who knows something about it sees them, they may reply.11:42
rodrigothanks11:42
rodrigoJhutchis11:42
rodrigowell11:42
rodrigolet start for the beginning11:43
rodrigoIm not a programmer11:43
rodrigoIm an digital artist11:43
saber__eazy gys go and install vlc11:43
rodrigobut I didn't wanted to have piraty in my pc11:43
saber__vlc player will do it for you11:43
rodrigoso I changed to linux11:43
rodrigoI have heard that is the best OS out there11:43
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rodrigoOne friend install kubuntu for me11:44
saber__from add/remove progs   in multimedia find vlc player and install it11:44
rodrigoI have check out the software for kubuntu11:44
rodrigobut11:44
rodrigoand here it goes the bad things11:44
rodrigothe kaffiene player doesnt' worl11:45
rodrigowork11:45
saber__how11:45
rodrigothe gimp11:45
rodrigois very different from photoshop11:45
saber__ya11:45
StErGi0ssaber__: it wonrt play avi though i think it needs some codecs11:45
adaptrrodrigo did you come to complain ?11:45
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rodrigono11:46
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saber__i use vlc player to play avi movies11:46
rodrigoI came here for help11:46
saber__it works fine for me11:46
StErGi0swithout any codecs?11:46
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_4strO!codecs11:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:46
silver2hi11:46
saber__and i use it also to play mp3 songs11:46
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: I haven't been able to get kaffeine to work for years.11:46
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: I use kmplayer11:47
saber__yes noooooooooooooooo codecs11:47
silver2i have pppoe problem11:47
saber__the vlc installs the codecs11:47
saber__try it and let me know11:47
silver2ppoe problem after reboot comupter doenst connect to internet11:47
rodrigokmplayer?11:47
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jhutchins_ltrodrigo: There is a variant on the gimp called gimpshop that has a more photoshop like interface.11:48
StErGi0si already tried it11:48
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: Adobe would sue it it were too much like theirs.11:48
StErGi0sand doesnt work :(11:48
rodrigook11:48
saber__check ur dns setting11:48
rodrigoI downloaded11:48
rodrigogimpshop11:48
_4strO<saber__> the vlc installs the codecs <-- nop, vlc dont install any codec11:48
rodrigoand kmplayer11:48
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jhutchins_ltrodrigo: kmplayer has limited functionality.11:48
rodrigobut kmplayer11:48
jhutchins_lt!plf11:48
ubotuThe Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas11:48
silver2saber__:  dns settings are restored after reboot11:48
jhutchins_lt!enter | rodrigo11:49
uboturodrigo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:49
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rodrigook sorry11:49
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rodrigoso can any one help me withs this technical problems11:50
rodrigo??11:50
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jhutchins_ltrodrigo: Add the plf repository, install mplayer, remove kmplayer, review the media stuff that scrolled off above.11:50
_4strOrodrigo: what's your problem ?11:50
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rodrigoadd the what?11:51
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: Read the excellent on-line guides for using gimp.11:51
jhutchins_lthttp://plf.zarb.org11:51
silver2join #gimp11:51
_4strOrodrigo: to read AVI files with kaffeine you need libxine1-ffmpeg11:51
rodrigook let me check  that11:51
rodrigoand how do I install all of that11:51
jhutchins_lt!easysources | rodrigo11:51
uboturodrigo: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:51
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silver2is here anybody using kubuntu on pppoe?11:51
silver2no router11:51
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zach_Greets, everyone...11:52
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jhutchins_ltrodrigo:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html11:53
zach_Can someone help me find out how to find the name of the name of the kernel module for my wi-fi card? I'm using a guide for ndiswrapper that only tells how to do so using GNOME's GUI tools. :-\11:53
rodrigohey thanks for the help11:53
rodrigotry to be passient11:53
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: linux is a great graphics platform, the trouble is that there's so much to learn up front.11:54
rodrigoIm a newby here and more interested in digital media production than programming11:54
Billiardhey my kaffiene wont start when i run it from the kmenu and when i run it from console i get "QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout" then it starts11:54
rodrigook11:55
rodrigothat's the panflet so you are new in linux11:55
rodrigolol11:55
rodrigothanks Im gonna read it11:55
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_4strOBilliard: right click on the icon ion your menu11:55
zach_Billiard: Did you check the command for Kaffeine's entry in KMenuEdit?11:55
Billiardyea and when i run that command it works in konsole also11:56
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Billiardkaffeine -d11:56
Billiard%   U11:56
Billiardtogether11:56
zach_hmm11:56
_4strOBilliard: kaffeine11:56
zach_Well, that error message seems to be normal.11:56
_4strOthat's all11:56
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Billiardk11:56
_4strOoups11:56
zach_I just got the same one on two computers. :-)11:56
_4strOBilliard: kaffeine11:56
_4strOBilliard: kaffeine %U11:56
_4strO:p11:57
Billiardk11:57
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_4strOthe chat didn't want to print the %11:57
Billiardk11:57
Billiardnow it works11:57
Billiardty11:57
_4strO;)11:57
zach_NP11:57
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zach_So does anyone know how to find the name of the kernel module for a wi-fi card?11:57
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_4strOzach_: apt-cache search yourcard ?11:58
judgenim impressed with kubuntu, alot faster than 5.1011:58
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: ImageMagick is an amazing set of graphic manipulation/generation tools that works entirely from the command line.11:59
_4strOzach_: or apt-cache search keyword11:59
jhutchins_ltrodrigo: Most recent animated feature films were produced in linux.11:59
_4strOblender powaaa11:59
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jhutchins_ltzach_: Depends on the card.11:59
adaptrzach_ modprobe -l | less, and take a good read :)11:59
jhutchins_lt!wifi | zach_11:59
ubotuzach_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:59
zach__4strO: Thanks, but I need to know the name for what I would put in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist12:00
rodrigoahhhhh12:00
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rodrigoyou have to paste code12:00
zach_Thanks, jhutchins_lt12:00
rodrigoto use linux always?12:00
rodrigowhere is the all good fashion setup.exe12:00
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zach_Linux isn't Windows, rodrigo. ;-)12:01
rodrigonow you tell me12:01
judgenrodrigo:  haha12:01
rodrigoI just want to see my dvd12:01
Billiardi think thats why linux isnt so popular, you have to use commands or get a package that is different for each version12:01
rodrigoand make gnom looks like photoshop12:01
zach_There are different ways of doing things, and more often than not, it doesn't involve "pasting code", although that way can be quicker and easier in many instances.12:02
adaptrrodrigo gimp already looks so much like photoflop it's not even funny12:02
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rodrigommm12:02
rodrigonope12:02
rodrigosorry I don't agree12:02
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rodrigolook if some one help me with gimp12:03
rodrigoI'll do you a cartoon totally free12:03
rodrigocost12:03
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rodrigoI pay your talent with mine!12:03
_4strO:p12:03
Billiardu need help with gimp?12:03
rodrigoyep12:04
rodrigoand also I tried to send a personal message here12:04
Billiardwhat do you need help doin12:04
rodrigobut I couldn't12:04
rodrigoI must register I belive12:04
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rodrigoistall gimpshop12:04
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rodrigoinstall gimpshop in order that the gimp looks like photoshooop12:04
rodrigoI'll make a great cartoon of you Billiard12:05
rodrigoin my brand new gimpshop12:05
rodrigototally free12:05
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rodrigosend it by e-mail12:05
Billiardill have to look up gimpshop cause i never used it but i heard of it12:05
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rodrigook no problem12:05
rodrigoany help is good recivied12:06
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rodrigoguys can any one tell me how to register to this irc?12:06
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avalon_ I'm having a problem with my DVD Burner. Everytime I try to burn ISOs, I get the error  WRITE@LBA=730h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]  and it ejects. What gives?12:06
StErGi0s/nickserv register pass12:06
StErGi0si think12:06
crdlbrodrigo, you can't register that nick12:06
crdlb!register12:07
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:07
rodrigowich one rodrigo?12:07
crdlbyes12:07
crdlbbecause it's in use12:07
rodrigook no problem12:07
rodrigoI have a problem with line codes12:07
rodrigoI just paste teh line code or I have to go to a menu?12:07
rodrigothe12:07
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mzanfardinoI looking for a desktop search tool that works similar to google desktop for windows.  Specifically i have need to search large directories trees for files by keywords on an smb share.  any suggestions?12:08
zach_Didn't Google make Desktop Search for Linux, or was it just GoogleEarth and Picasa?12:08
mzanfardinos/I/I'm12:08
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elrodroyipii12:08
elrodrohey am rodrigo12:08
ubuntu__how to find and select the kernel i want to have installed by apt-get? anyway 2.6.20-16 has forgotten my ati-drivers12:09
elrodrothe newby linuxer12:09
elrodroI change my nick12:09
elrodrogreat advance12:09
jhutchins_ltmzanfardino: beagle/kerry12:09
elrodroso what you say billiard12:09
mzanfardinojhutchins_lt: thanks.  Just found it in apt-cache search... heh12:09
elrodrowe have a deal?12:09
Billiardelrodro im lookin up an easy install method for gimpshop12:10
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jriachihello12:12
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jriachiwhen i press my "email key" in my multimedia keyboard, a kmail composition windows opens... where can i configure this?12:13

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