[12:14] <nosrednaekim> n00b_london: update-manager
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: you did what?
[12:14] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: xorg.conf? no.
[12:14] <Darkkish> okay hmm
[12:14] <dwidmann> n00b_london: way I would do it would be to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all instances of dapper to edgy, then to run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:15] <Darkkish> you know what
[12:15] <Darkkish> it seems that i'm logged in as root
[12:15] <Darkkish> i know what's wrong :D
[12:15] <n00b_london> riight, thanks - someone had told me that before and I'd forgotten
[12:15] <Darkkish> i did "startx" in recovery mode lol
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> haha
[12:15] <Darkkish> no wonder.
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: lol
[12:15] <Darkkish> haha phew
[12:15] <n00b_london> is there any way to make a 'batch' file that would do that for me?
[12:15] <ejortegau> how do u keep up 2 date?
[12:15] <dwidmann> Darkkish: even if in recovery mode, you could "su username" before running startx
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: isn't there some automatic tool for that?
[12:16] <dwidmann> nosrednaekim: AFAIK there wasn't one available until the Edgy -> Feisty upgrade
[12:16] <dwidmann> (in other words, there is now, but the packages for it are for Edgy)
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> dwidmann: oh ok..
[12:16] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: up to date with what?
[12:17] <ejortegau> package updates against exploits and stuff like that
[12:17] <ejortegau> on dekstop ubuntu adept or synaptic do that for you... what about on server?
[12:18] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: oh.... apt-get will do it for you.
[12:18] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: apt-get update or how does it work?
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: I don't know. I've never done it from the command line
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> Either apt-get update or apt-get upgrade
[12:19] <ejortegau> it seems to be doing *something*... i guess it works :)
[12:19] <Dragnslcr> update fetches new package lists, upgrade installs new versions
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> its  apt-get update (updates your package lists) followed by apt-get upgrade(upgrades the packages themselves
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> yeah... what Dragnslcr
[12:20] <nosrednaekim> said
[12:20] <ejortegau> ok, thanks
[12:21] <ejortegau> if i change, say, my httpd.conf or my postgresql.conf, and then one day i upgrade those packages bc of some exploit or something, will hte update overwrite my configurations?
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> It shouldn't
[12:21] <Darkkish> fixed
[12:21] <Darkkish> :)
[12:21] <Darkkish> i'm silly
[12:21] <Dragnslcr> Which has the downside of not adding any new required options
[12:21] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: it will ask you... and show you a diff
[12:22] <Dragnslcr> Oh
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: hehe
[12:22] <Dragnslcr> I was wondering if it even attempted a merge of any kind
[12:22] <Darkkish> but now i'm having another problem >_<
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: get out of recovery mode for 1
[12:22] <Darkkish> i am
[12:22] <ejortegau> doesn't sound fun, but yeah, i guess that's the best approach
[12:22] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: oh.. ok
[12:22] <ReMiiRuru> What (in general) is kept in /proc folder?
[12:23] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: my portable harddrive won't boot
[12:23] <Darkkish> er
[12:23] <nethenson> ReMiiRuru: it is a "virtual folder" (like /dev), it contains system information
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> ReMiiRuru: statistcs about your hardware. its mostly being moved to /sys though
[12:23] <Darkkish> it freezes ubuntu during boot
[12:23] <Darkkish> until i unplug it
[12:23] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: your hard driver has ubuntu installed on it?
[12:23] <Darkkish> something about a USB error and changing the port or something
[12:24] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: no
[12:24] <Darkkish> it's just a portable hard drive
[12:24] <ReMiiRuru> Wow, my hardware statistics take up 1.5GB.
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: oh.. ok.
[12:24] <Darkkish> it works fine when i plug it in after it's booted, but i have to unplug it every time i boot (this is a new problem)
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: is that and inconvenience?
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> *n
[12:24] <nosrednaekim> *an.. phew
[12:24] <Darkkish> yeah it is
[12:24] <nethenson> ReMiiRuru: as i said, it is virtual.. in fact no space is ocupied :)
[12:24] <ReMiiRuru> nethenson: Oh, I see.
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: might want to go over to #linux for that.
[12:25] <colkhis> dwidmann: I have one question. I am too lazy to make backups. If I install kubuntu (I have a sepparate partition already), what are the chances that something goes wrong and I lose data on other partitions?
[12:25] <nosrednaekim> colkhis: its not exactly likely.. but something bad could hapen
[12:26] <jwallingford> nosrednaekim: how do i follow the instructions for the desktop entry... is that konsole commands?
[12:26] <dwidmann> colkhis: not too likely, but not impossible either
[12:27] <nosrednaekim> jwallingford: oh from that tutorial? let me see..
[12:27] <colkhis> ok, not likely is good enough for me. :)
[12:27] <colkhis> thanks
[12:27] <eljefe> colkhis: i've done a lot of installs and never lost anything.  It is possible, but if you know to install to the correct partition, you should be reasonably safe
[12:28] <colkhis> eljefe: yes, I have a blank partition, with no data on it.
[12:28] <nosrednaekim> jwallingford: open a file in your /homedirectory/Desktop called "thunderbird.desktop" and paste that into it.
[12:28] <dwidmann> I've ran into major data loss before. Mostly due to incompetence. I now never, ever recommend people resize partitions, especially not XFS partitions, and especially not with qtparted.
[12:28] <eljefe> colkhis: and you know its 'linux name' (e.g. /dev/hda2) ?
[12:30] <jwallingford> nosrednaekim: you mean create a file called thunderbird.desktop?
[12:31] <colkhis> kubuntu live cd will not try to automatically repartition my entire drive, right?
[12:31] <colkhis> eljefe: yes I know its name
[12:32] <ReMiiRuru> Wow, logs sure take up a lot of space on linux...
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> jwallingford: yes... with that text stuff in it....the stuff in the quotes
[12:33] <jwallingford> nosrednaekim: ok what do i create on the desktop? link to application?
[12:34] <angasule> is there a password length limit for user accounts? or any apps that cause trouble if using >8?
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> well yeah... that would work. but don't paste the text there. you have to enter each field by itself
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> angasule: I don't think so
[12:34] <Darkkish> brb hopefully
[12:34] <Darkkish> restarting x
[12:35] <Darkkish> hopefully.
[12:35] <ReMiiRuru> Can I somehow set up how long does linux keeps logs or how big can syslog kern.log be? I mean, almost 1GB for each of them is too much for my hard drive...
[12:36] <jwallingford> nosrednaekim: ok i think i got it. but when i click on the link it just acts like its loading for a while then goes away and nothing happens
[12:36] <jwallingford> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:36] <jwallingford> !universe
[12:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:36] <waterox> Hi room
[12:36] <angasule> cool, thanks
[12:37] <nosrednaekim> hello
[12:37] <chuck> !router
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <chuck> !masquerading
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about masquerading - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:37] <chuck> !ipmasq
[12:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipmasq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> jwallingford: ok... just try running this from the command line "/usr/local/bin/thunderbird"
[12:38] <waterox> is this the help service ?
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> waterox: yep
[12:38] <waterox> thanks
[12:38] <nosrednaekim> I haven't done anything yet ;)
[12:39] <waterox> :)
[12:39] <jwallingford> nosrednaekim: /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: not found
[12:39] <jwallingford> i have 64bit if that matters
[12:39] <chuck> anyone know a decent tutorial for setting up ip masquerading on ubuntu edgy eft?
[12:39] <waterox> Ubuntu has really added some nice features since last I had looked
[12:40] <waterox> sry chuck
[12:40] <nosrednaekim> jwallingford: haha... yeah... it definately does
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> waterox: yeah.. it has
[12:41] <Lynn_1024> I'm a convert from windows... is there a way to make something like a batch file on linux?
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> Lynn_1024: a batch file?
[12:42] <Lynn_1024> yes... is that possible?
[12:42] <jwallingford> nosrednaekim: so i cant have thunderbird 2?
[12:42] <HymnToLife> nosrednaekim, windows equivalent of shell scripts, IIRC
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> Lynn_1024- yes, it's called shell scripting
[12:42] <Dragnslcr> Lynn_1024- simple things aren't very difficult
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> jwallingford: you are going to have to look around.
[12:42] <HymnToLife> jwallingford, 'course you can, just get it fro mozilla.com
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> for a .deb
[12:42] <HymnToLife> you just can't install it The Ubuntu Way (TM)
[12:43] <waterox> later room :)
[12:43] <nosrednaekim> Lynn_1024: oh yeah...a bash script... they are easy.
[12:43] <Lynn_1024> so what do I need to do to make something like sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:43] <minty_> hey any1 good with beryl?
[12:44] <weswh-work> what's a decent app to monitor CPU load?
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> #!/bin/bash
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:44] <weswh-work> cpu/swap/memory...basic kinda thing would be nice.
[12:44] <Lynn_1024> sorry
[12:44] <jwallingford> i have been looking and everything i try gives me that same error. I had thunderbird 2 on an old system and backed up my .thunderbird file so that i could use it in ubuntu. can i still use the .thunderbird file if i install v1.5? i think i tried it and got errors when i loaded thunderbird.. is there anything i would have to change in the old .thunderbird file to help this?
[12:44] <Dragnslcr> I assume that's not what you actually want to do, though
[12:44] <Lynn_1024> I forgot to finish that sentence
[12:44] <Lynn_1024> I want to make it automated
[12:45] <HymnToLife> cron is your friend ;)
[12:45] <Darkkish> ugh
[12:45] <Darkkish> so now i had to reconfigure my Xorg
[12:45] <Darkkish> and i set it to 1280x1024
[12:45] <Dragnslcr> You don't actually mean apt-get dist-upgrade, right?
[12:45] <Lynn_1024> explanation... I'm working on a friend's computer, bringing it from 6.06 to 7.04, which will take about 5 hours
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> Lynn_1024: like eveyr couple minutes or every time you log in?
[12:45] <Darkkish> but it only goes up to 1024x768 >_>
[12:45] <Lynn_1024> no no.... just once
[12:45] <ReMiiRuru> I have big problem. When I try to start some of kde aplications from console using sudo, i.e. "sudo kate" some of them won't start, but they start if I don't use sudo. There's an error I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24494/
[12:45] <Dragnslcr> dist-upgrade is definitely not something you have to do as a cron job
[12:45] <minty_> any1 good with the workign of beryl?
[12:45] <Lynn_1024> lol
[12:45] <HymnToLife> !kdesu | ReMiiRuru
[12:45] <ubotu> ReMiiRuru: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:46] <nosrednaekim> minty_: go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:46] <ReMiiRuru> Oh...
[12:46] <HymnToLife> ReMiiRuru, basucally, use kdesu kate instead of sudo kate
[12:46] <Lynn_1024> so how does one make a shell script?
[12:46] <ReMiiRuru> Yeah, I understood. Thanks.
[12:46] <Dragnslcr> Lynn_1024- it's just a text file
[12:46] <Lynn_1024> ok
[12:46] <Lynn_1024> saved as...
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> Lynn_1024- you put #!/bin/bash on the first line
[12:47] <Dragnslcr> Well, technically you can use any interpreter you want, but if you're running shell commands, #!/bin/bash is what you want
[12:48] <Lynn_1024> ok
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Basically, #!/path/to/something means "run this file through /path/to/something"
[12:48] <Lynn_1024> do I need to save it as anything special, like a batch file is saved as a .bat in windows?
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> then you put in the shell commands that you want to run. you can also for for and if statements
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Nope, it just has to be executable
[12:48] <nosrednaekim> Lynn_1024: nope.
[12:48] <Lynn_1024> ...
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Unix doesn't use file extensions for anything
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> Lynn_1024: you execute it with ./<program name>
[12:49] <Lynn_1024> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:49] <Lynn_1024> ok, I'm a little lost on that... I'm still a bit of a n00b myself
[12:49] <Dragnslcr> On which part?
[12:50] <Lynn_1024> execute with ./<programname>
[12:50] <Dragnslcr> In a shell
[12:50] <khirr> someone of u have installed amsn 0.97
[12:50] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to just run it from Konqueror as well
[12:50] <Lynn_1024> so when it comes up with the "Open With" option, I just say konqueror or something?
[12:51] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> no... tell it to open it with "bash"
[12:51] <Darkkish> how do i reconfigure my graphics card drivers?
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> thats not how it should be tho..
[12:51] <Darkkish> just use reinstall in adept
[12:51] <Dragnslcr> Or Open With... and select "Run In Terminal"
[12:51] <Darkkish> ??
[12:51] <mahdi> anybody try KDE4 Alpha 1?
[12:51] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: do you have some kind of proprietary ones?
[12:51] <Lynn_1024> well, if you do that, don't you also have to select a program?
[12:52] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: i had to reconfigure xorg
[12:52] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, guess that wouldn't work
[12:52] <Dragnslcr> You might have to actually open Konsole and run it from there
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: do you have the nvidia or ATI drivers is what i'm asking
[12:53] <Lynn_1024> hmm
[12:53] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: nvidia, i said that
[12:53] <Lynn_1024> my friend doesn't know the first thing about terminal... I want to make this as easy as possible for her
[12:53] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: ah.. ok.
[12:53] <Lynn_1024> it's going to take about 5 hours to upgrade from dapper to edgy
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> Lynn_1024- I would think that Adept can do a dist-upgrade
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> Though Dapper may have an old version
[12:54] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: so should i just reinstall nvidia-glx-new in adept?
[12:54] <Lynn_1024> well, I've already changed all the references to dapper over to edgy in sources.list
[12:54] <Dragnslcr> Honestly, dist-upgrade isn't a very trivial thing anyway
[12:54] <Lynn_1024> and done the sudo apt-get updates
[12:55] <Dragnslcr> I would think just telling her to open Konsole and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should be pretty easy to follow
[12:55] <Lynn_1024> lol
[12:56] <jzilla> does anybody have exp. with installing a 32bit firefox in a 64bit enviroment?
[12:56] <Dragnslcr> I've only installed Kubuntu right from a current CD, so I don't know a whole lot about doing a dist-upgrade
[12:56] <Dragnslcr> !dist-upgrade
[12:56] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:56] <Tommy1000> kann hier jemand deutsch
[12:56] <Dragnslcr> That page might have some helpful tips too
[12:57] <Dragnslcr> jzilla- does the version of Firefox from the repository not work for you?
[12:57] <Alarm> hello. i just noticed that i cant view files AND directories on other partitions that are written with greek characters. how can this be fixed ?
[12:57] <jzilla> Dragnslcr: if i use the repo, it installs 64bit ff.
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> And the problem with that is what?
[12:58] <jzilla> flash support
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> Don't think it would matter
[12:59] <Darkrift> Question
[12:59] <ReMiiRuru> Umm, I just ran completely out of space on my drive that mounts to / and now all applications almost don't work(or just don't)... And I didn't create any new files on /, data usage on partition just grew with time. Probably some logs, cache and stuff... So, how can I clean things up?
[12:59] <Darkrift> i tried kubuntu on my older dell laptop and things went very smooth
[12:59] <Darkrift> so i tried it on my newer compaq v6210us laptop
[12:59] <Darkrift> and nothing went smooth
[12:59] <Darkrift> ive gotten most things to work, but my wifi is super slow
[12:59] <Daisuke_Ido> Alarm: i assume you have the greek language pack installed?
[01:00] <Darkrift> ive followed 5 or so different tut's on the ubuntu forums and still no luck
[01:00] <ejortegau> hey, i need php to have freetype support, any ideas besides recompiling?
[01:00] <Darkrift> anyone know what i could do?
[01:00] <Alarm> nop, i didnt do it as i was afraid not this to change the whole language on my system. i sitll want my system to be in english
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> nope, you can keep the default language as english
[01:00] <Darkrift> id like to get rid of vista for good, but i cant untill i have internet working fully on kubuntu
[01:01] <Alarm> Daisuke_Ido,  what does that language pack include ?
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> let me look real quick
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: no idea. what chipset it is?
[01:01] <Darkrift> broadcomm 34xx i think
[01:01] <ejortegau> crap, please tell me i don't need to recompile...
[01:01] <Darkrift> there are many threads about it on the forums
[01:01] <Tommy1000> can somebody speak german
[01:02] <Darkrift> sound worked perfectly (forums said idhave a hell of a time getting sound working)
[01:02] <Darkrift> video too..... tons of ppl had probs with video, but it works great for me
[01:02] <Darkrift> but wifi is 10k
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> ejortegau- did you compile PHP from source?
[01:03] <ejortegau> nope... i installed from ubuntu... but it does not have freetype support
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> Darkrift- Broadcom is notoriously horrible in Linux
[01:03] <Darkrift> so i hear
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: are you using ndiswrapper
[01:04] <Darkrift> but.... vista is notoriously horrible period :S
[01:04] <Darkrift> no, tried
[01:04] <Darkrift> wouldnt install properly
[01:04] <SeanTater> Why do I get duplicate packets when I ping specific computers on my local network?
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: ah.. ok
[01:04] <Daisuke_Ido> This metapackage depends on all packages that provide native language support for applications in Ubuntu (like spell checkers, dictionaries, OpenOffice and Mozilla locale packages, etc.).
[01:04] <Darkrift> the only method i got working was the fwcutter method
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> i'm not familiar with it
[01:05] <xime> hi, I want know if is possible run xgl/beryl in kde
[01:05] <Darkrift> extracts firmware from a windows driver
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> xime: yep
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> it is
[01:05] <Darkrift> yes xime
[01:05] <Darkrift> it works awesome
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> ejortegau- do you have libfreetype6 and libfreetype6-dev installed?
[01:05] <xime> anywone has a link, because I find only for gnome/ubuntu
[01:05] <Darkrift> erm
[01:05] <Darkrift> install it from apt-get
[01:05] <Darkrift> thats how i did it
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> xime: it shoudl be the same
[01:06] <Darkrift> apt-get install beryl
[01:06] <xime> without beryl repositories?
[01:06] <ejortegau> dev thing not... installing it right now
[01:06] <Darkrift> ooh
[01:06] <Darkrift> think i added them somehow
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> xime: if you are on fiesty, yeah
[01:06] <xime> yes I am
[01:06] <Darkrift> been a few weeks
[01:06] <Darkrift> but i know it was fast and easy
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> did you follow the toturial suggested by !beryl?
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> !beryl
[01:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:07] <ejortegau> Dragnslcr: installed it
[01:07] <xime> no :s
[01:07] <Darkrift> brb in a few
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> xime: follow the tutorial at beryl-project
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> bye
[01:08] <xime> ok, I try now, maybe come back later... thanks!
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> NP
[01:09] <ejortegau> ok, plan b... anyone here using captcha images with a php website?
[01:10] <ubuntu_> Help
[01:10] <ubuntu_> nalioth:
[01:10] <ubuntu_> nalioth:
[01:10] <nalioth> ubuntu_: yes?
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: whats the problem?
[01:11] <Alarm> Daisuke_Ido,  fixed it. just needed to mount my ntfs with iso and unicode
[01:11] <Darkrift> uck
[01:11] <Darkrift> konversation is ucky
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> I like it...
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[01:11] <ubuntu_> hi i wanted to know how to install firefox on kubuntu
[01:11] <nalioth> !tell ubuntu_ about firefox
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: "sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:11] <ubuntu_> thanks
[01:12] <ubuntu_> hello
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> hello
[01:13] <[VK] > hi
[01:13] <[VK] > I have installed UBuntu
[01:13] <[VK] > I have installed Kubuntu over the Wubi installer
[01:14] <[VK] > and it detects my Wlan card but I cant make a connection with my router
[01:14] <[VK] > it finds my router (30) but it abourts while connecting
[01:16] <xime> kubuntu has a program to handle restricted software like ubuntu?
[01:16] <Admiral_Chicago> xime: no
[01:16] <Darkrift> anyone know if there is some auto installers for wifi (found there are some for video cards)?
[01:25] <ejortegau> thanks for your help guys
[01:25] <ejortegau> g2g
[01:28] <proxie> I'm new so forgive me if this is an obvious question ... is it possible to run "Deskbar" in kUbuntu?
[01:30] <doobeh> Hey, I've got a IMB t60p, and when I try and run Kubuntu 7.04 it seems to load everything okay, but it just sits at a blinking prompt when the GUI should pop up
[01:30] <doobeh> is there any way to see what the problem might be?
[01:30] <backpro> hello
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> well i think it's safe to say that X is the problem
[01:31] <doobeh> I mean, specific problems
[01:31] <backpro> i wanna install php in kubuntu !!
[01:31] <doobeh> Is there a way to see error messages from X?
[01:31] <backpro> how ?
[01:31] <Darkrift> question, my kubuntu seems to not have ndiswrapper installed, but everything is telling me ubuntu does... am i right to assume that this is one of thier differences?
[01:31] <mneisen> backpro: sudo apt-get install php5
[01:32] <ace_suares> doobeh: did you try alt-ctrl-f1 ?
[01:32] <doobeh> yeah, ace, just a standard prompt, no errors listed there
[01:32] <eljefe> Darkrift: not sure; Kubuntu gets the shaft tho
[01:32] <ace_suares> backpro: something along the lines of apt-get install php might worrk
[01:32] <Darkrift> ok
[01:32] <ace_suares> !php
[01:32] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:32] <Darkrift> kinda what i wanted to hear
[01:32] <eljefe> has anyone had issues with opening k9copy lately?
[01:33] <ace_suares> xime: kubuntu = ubuntu + kde
[01:33] <Darkrift> so in adept, i found teh ndiswrapper source
[01:33] <eljefe> Darkrift: install it tho, sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[01:33] <Darkrift> will that auto compile or will i have to search for it and compile it?
[01:33] <xime> ace_suares yes
[01:33] <Darkrift> i tried that
[01:34] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/usr/src$ sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[01:34] <ace_suares> doobeh: log in to the box, then find /var/log/Zorg.0.log
[01:34] <eljefe> Darkrift: not sure!   look into restricted-package-manager or something... i bet that would use ndiswrapper and therefor install it as needed...
[01:34] <Darkrift> Reading package lists... Done
[01:34] <Darkrift> Building dependency tree
[01:34] <Darkrift> Reading state information... Done
[01:34] <Darkrift> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[01:34] <ace_suares> sorry not Zorg ! Aaagh ! I mean Xorg.0.log
[01:34] <xime> I get this error when start beryl-manager from console beryl-manager:6953: CRITICAL **: can't execute beryl-xgl: Success
[01:34] <Darkrift> i even tried with the full package name
[01:34] <Darkrift> same error
[01:34] <eljefe> do you have all of your repositories enabled?
[01:34] <doobeh> thanks ace, I'll give it a go :)
[01:34] <eljefe> does anyone have issues opening k9copy?
[01:34] <Darkrift> so im using adept (which finds it, but the source)
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[01:34] <Darkrift> i have all of them enabled
[01:35] <Darkrift> i can find the utils, but that needs the module first it says
[01:35] <eljefe> hmm odd, not sure...  i guess check forums?  !ndiswrapper
[01:35] <eljefe> !ndiswrapper
[01:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:35] <eljefe> try that
[01:35] <Darkrift> i cant even install firefox with this crappy 10k speed :(
[01:36] <eljefe> utils might be alright tho, are you sure its the source?
[01:36] <ace_suares> xime: sorry maybe I missed your question or it was already answered. Else please repeat question.
[01:36] <eljefe> that might be just fine
[01:36] <Darkrift> its called
[01:36] <eljefe> Darkrift: ouch, didn't realize that...
[01:36] <Darkrift> ndiswrapper-source
[01:36] <eljefe> ah
[01:36] <Darkrift> source for the ndiswrapper linux kernal module
[01:36] <ace_suares> Darkrift: try links or lynx (text-only browser)
[01:37] <Darkrift> then there is ndiswrapper-common (scripts for ndiswrapper)
[01:37] <ace_suares> xime: don't know nothing about beryl sorry.
[01:37] <Darkrift> and ndiswrapper-utils
[01:37] <Darkrift> so it seems the -source is the only one that might work
[01:37] <xime> ace_suares I already type it :)
[01:37] <Darkrift> my qeustion is
[01:37] <Darkrift> i installed the source
[01:38] <Darkrift> but im guessing it didnt auto compile
[01:38] <Darkrift> so where would i find it to compile it
[01:38] <Darkrift> whats wrong xime?
[01:38] <Darkrift> berly worked great in kubuntu on my other laptop
[01:38] <ace_suares> xime: ubuntu + kde = kubuntu, so beryl should work, like in ubuntu, yes? But I don't know enough so better keep my mth sht.
[01:39] <Darkrift> it does work
[01:40] <xime> yes I belive but I am doing the same I did in Ubunutu but I get these error I post
[01:41] <eljefe> Darkrift: let me go take a look for you on  a faster connection...
[01:41] <eljefe> !ndiswrapper
[01:41] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:41] <eljefe> brb
[01:43] <Darkrift> k
[01:44] <cole> hi
[01:44] <cole> hi
[01:44] <eljefe> hi
[01:45] <louram02> hi
[01:45] <tikal26> hello, I am having problems intalling from source
[01:45] <cole> i whent to install kubuntu its all laggy and the installer wont start?
[01:45] <louram02> speak in portuguese
[01:46] <tikal26> I get the following error
[01:46] <tikal26> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:46] <tikal26> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:46] <cole> eu fui instalar o kubuntu seu toda lento e o instalador no comear
[01:46] <eljefe> hi Darkrift can you check if you have it already? eljefe@eljefe-desktop: lsmod |grep -i ndis
[01:46] <Daisuke_Ido> !pt
[01:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:47] <cole> i went to install kubuntu its all slow and the installer wont start
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> !en louram02
[01:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about en louram02 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> !en | louram02
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[01:47] <eljefe> cole: is it a slow machine?
[01:47] <Darkrift> i get nothing eljefe
[01:47] <cole> no
[01:47] <eljefe> Darkrift: was this a standard install of Kubuntu 7.04?
[01:47] <Darkrift> yes
[01:48] <cole> ya
[01:48] <eljefe> Darkrift: hmmm, i have it, and the same install... one moment
[01:48] <Darkrift> ive done lots of playing around, but i dont believe ive uninstalled it
[01:48] <eljefe> sure
[01:48] <Darkrift> i know i installed the utils (gui) and it didnt work
[01:48] <Darkrift> the gui worked, but it was bringing up lots of errors about missing files and scripts
[01:49] <eljefe> sure
[01:49] <eljefe> momento
[01:49] <cole> so how do i fix this problrm
[01:50] <eljefe> cole: go to a terminal and type 'top' [enter]  and let us know the memory and the CPU %
[01:50] <cole> um that be hard because im on this computer
[01:51] <eljefe> are you on the computer to which you wish to install kubuntu?  or another?
[01:51] <cole> 224mb of ram 1.ghz
[01:51] <cole> ku
[01:51] <xime> now work, beryl must be 2.0 form ubuntu.beryl-project and not universe repositores
[01:51] <cole> 1.8
[01:51] <Darkrift> got it working xime?
[01:52] <eljefe> cole and Darkrift - i gotta go for a bit, back in 10 or something...
[01:52] <Darkrift> ok
[01:52] <xime> yes, now I have to make it start when xgl start
[01:52] <Darkrift> yeah, that part was a pain
[01:52] <cole> AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200! 1.80 GHZ 224 MB of RAM
[01:52] <xime> why?
[01:52] <Darkrift> dont remember
[01:52] <Darkrift> mine didnt want to autorun
[01:52] <Darkrift> kept having to change things
[01:52] <Darkrift> finally got it working
[01:53] <cole> AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+ 1.80 GHZ 224 MB of RAM
[01:53] <cole> good right?
[01:53] <Darkrift> cole:  he is away for a few minutes
[01:53] <Darkrift> but that seems good enough
[01:53] <cole> kk
[01:53] <Darkrift> mines just barely faster
[01:53] <Darkrift> and it runs fast
[01:53] <Darkrift> and my other laptop is slower and still runs it
[01:53] <Darkrift> but the ram is a little low
[01:54] <cole> know whare i cna get vary cheep ram?
[01:54] <Darkrift> no idea
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> what kind of ram?
[01:55] <cole> um
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm guessing 333 or 266?
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ddr sdram
[01:55] <cole> i got it written down here somewhare
[01:56] <Darkrift> has to be ddr
[01:56] <Darkrift> with a sempron
[01:56] <cole> k
[01:56] <Darkrift> 266 most liekely
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> Darkrift: right
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> 266, 333 at the VERY most
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> no way it'll do 400
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> or at least no way it'll take advantage of it
[01:56] <Darkrift> yeah
[01:56] <Darkrift> but
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's my problem with ram prices
[01:56] <cole> maunal says i can put max of 4gb of ram in it
[01:56] <Darkrift> if you dont trash teh one you have
[01:56] <Darkrift> you need to match the speed
[01:57] <Darkrift> so whatever you have you need to stick with unless youjjust replace it all
[01:57] <cole> speed 2800
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> right now, ddr2 is dirt cheap, and ddr is through the roof, comparatively
[01:57] <cole> wat the dif?
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> speed and architecture
[01:58] <cole> 1.80ghtz
[01:58] <cole> amd
[01:58] <cole> x86
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> x86_64
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> but yeah
[01:59] <cole> not a 64bit porcessor
[02:00] <Darkrift> mines 64
[02:00] <Darkrift> but someone said just to use x86
[02:00] <Darkrift> i thought linux could handle a 64bit os and 32bit programs
[02:00] <Darkrift> but guesss not
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Darkrift: for the most part it can, some things won't work properly, and 64 bit OS is overkill for now
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> cole: a socket a then
[02:01] <cole> so how do i fix the problem
[02:01] <cole> install wont start and slow
[02:02] <Darkrift> installing linux-headers so i can compile the stupid ndis
[02:02] <Darkrift> overkill how?
[02:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Darkrift: you won't notice a real increase in performance with less than 4gb ram (at least that's how i understand it)
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> now...  cole.  is this a prebuilt system?
[02:03] <cole> um yes
[02:03] <cole> i bought at walmart
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> brand and model?
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm guessing HP or compaq
[02:04] <Darkrift> 50s lag :(
[02:04] <Darkrift> ouch
[02:04] <Darkrift> emachine or compaq
[02:04] <Darkrift> or hp
[02:04] <Darkrift> proprietary out the ass
[02:04] <Darkrift> gonna have fun like me and my laptop :S
[02:04] <cole> compaq
[02:04] <oslo> on a ftp server, WITH Konqueror: i can create Files&Folders, i can Modify Files&Folders, i can erase folders BUT i CAN'T erase Files ! with another client like kasablanca all is fine ( exept that there another probleme, with casablanca u can't cut & paste, only copy & paste )
[02:04] <oslo> any help ?
[02:07] <Darkrift> anyone with a decent connection speed able to find me a link to dl ndiswrapper-1.2-rc1
[02:07] <mahdi> oslo: sounds like permissions issue, this a local server or remote?
[02:08] <Darkrift> surfing is to slow to be usefull with a 10k connection :(
[02:08] <Darkrift> i have a tutorial that says to use that version
[02:08] <Darkrift> but cant find it
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: that tutorial it will work with any version
[02:09] <Darkrift> ok
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: ouch that is slow....is that the limitation of your wireless?
[02:13] <Darkrift> ok, tried 1.46
[02:13] <Darkrift> and now im just getting hundreds of errors when compiling
[02:14] <Darkrift> make[1] : Entering directory `/home/darkrift/ndiswrapper-1.46/utils'
[02:14] <Darkrift> gcc -g -Wall -I../driver -o loadndisdriver loadndisdriver.c
[02:14] <Darkrift> loadndisdriver.c:15:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[02:14] <Darkrift> loadndisdriver.c:16:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[02:14] <Darkrift> and it goes on for a while
[02:14] <Darkrift> lots of missing files, inporper functions etc
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> you don't need to compile the ustils... just the kernel driver
[02:16] <Darkrift> i know
[02:16] <Darkrift> ndiswrapper-1.46/
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> *utils
[02:16] <Darkrift> thats what i compuled
[02:16] <Darkrift> u = i
[02:16] <Darkrift> or tried
[02:17] <Darkrift> following the tutorial but with a different version
[02:17] <Darkrift> sudo tar xvzf ndiswrapper-1.2-rc1
[02:17] <Darkrift> cd /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2-rc1/
[02:17] <Darkrift> sudo make
[02:17] <Darkrift> sudo make install
[02:17] <Darkrift> got the errors on make
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok.
[02:17] <Darkrift> missing libs?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> so you said "make"
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> ?
[02:17] <Darkrift> yeah
[02:18] <Darkrift> sudo make
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> are you root?
[02:18] <oslo> mahdi> its a local ftp server one
[02:18] <Darkrift> actually, yes
[02:18] <Darkrift> lol
[02:18] <Darkrift> forgot about that
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> ah.. right
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> so what.... you didn't run with sudo?
[02:18] <Darkrift> i did
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> oh ok
[02:19] <Darkrift> i just tried it without and got permission denied
[02:19] <mahdi> oslo: what program is being used to run the server?
[02:19] <Darkrift> first time i typed sudo make
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:20] <oslo> mahdi> don't know
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: question. if you cd'ed to usr/src/ndiswrapper.... why does it say that it was entering home/darkrift/ndiswrapper-1.46/utils?
[02:21] <Darkrift> because i unpacked it in the wrong place
[02:21] <cole> back
[02:21] <Darkrift> does it need to be in usr/src?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: no it doesn't.. ok
[02:22] <Darkrift> k
[02:22] <mahdi> oslo: well i'm out of ideas, sorry i'm a little busy
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: did you get "build-essential"?
[02:22] <Darkrift> prob not
[02:22] <Darkrift> no idea what it is
[02:22] <oslo> my provider: free.fr give me a modem & a multimedia box, the two are self connected by wifi, when i'm connected to the modem i must reach the multimedia hard drive box by FTP hd1.freebox.fr which is the multimedia box name's domain
[02:22] <cole> so fixing this problem wohuld require>?
[02:23] <Darkrift> installing it now nosrednaekim
[02:23] <Darkrift> gonna take 10 mins to dl
[02:23] <Darkrift> so imma run to the store and get some dr pepper :)
[02:23] <Darkrift> brb abnd thx for helping :)
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a quick way to get the make and model of a motherboard?
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> ok
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: lshw?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> thats all I can think of
[02:25] <coteyr> hey hows eveyone doing I am thinkin of migrating from fc6 to kubuntu. I have done so on my laptop and I like it.The only 2 things that worry me are vpn access (i have multipul ways though mspptp is the only "supported" one) and ease of server admin. So far I have to say the later is not a big concern
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> never heard of it, let's give it a spin!
[02:25] <coteyr> is there anyone here willing to help out with some vpn access issues
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> I don't even know what vpn is..
[02:25] <coteyr> I have followed this "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91249.html"
[02:26] <Minataku> Virtual Private Network
[02:26] <coteyr> and this "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91249.html"
[02:26] <coteyr> there about the same
[02:26] <Minataku> It's a LAN except established over a WAN
[02:26] <coteyr> i have done everything including restarting (the laptop and the service)
[02:27] <Darkrift> virtual private networking
[02:27] <Darkrift> but thats all i know about it
[02:27] <Darkrift> lol
[02:27] <coteyr> but when I click on the network manager systray thingy (sorry) and go to configure VPN nothing happens
[02:27] <coteyr> no windows no dialogs no nothing
[02:27] <Darkrift> vpn tunnels use the internet to make a private "lan like" connection to the host
[02:28] <coteyr> i have also tried kvpnc
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> ah ok
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> nosrednaekim: that didn't tell me, but it did give me enough to go on to figure it out on the manufacturer's site
[02:28] <coteyr> and i can't get that to work ether though the problems I have with that could be a few dirrent things
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: ok.. good
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> wanted to make sure i didn't just blow $115 on an sata2 drive if it's not supported
[02:29] <Minataku> I just explained that, Darkrift
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> these are usually the kinds of things i would look for FIRST, but i was in a hurry
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: finally got around to ordering a replacement drive.  i'd say replacing a 160 with a 500 is acceptable.
[02:31] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Sounds reasonable
[02:31] <Minataku> That's 340MB extra
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> not really, but hey
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i still have issues with how it's measured in real space and marketspeak
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's gb :P
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> can't believe i missed that :\
[02:34] <cole>   
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> GB, too
[02:34] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Heehee
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> whoa, fancy
[02:34] <Minataku> cole: English only here, sorry
[02:34] <Minataku> Nice display, though
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> agreed
[02:34] <Sloik> cole: Pretty cool looking. :P
[02:34] <Minataku> Probably supposed to be reading that right to left, no?
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[02:35] <Aresilek> Hello
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> I think it should be <eloc> then ;)
[02:35] <cole> lol
[02:35] <Aresilek> I'm trying to get my dvd to play with vlc from the autorun menu
[02:35] <Sloik> nosrednaekim: That's what I was about to say.
[02:35] <Daisuke_Ido> no, that's the nick he's using, it just looks like "cole" to us
[02:35] <Aresilek> but it comes up with an error...
[02:36] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Haha
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido: lol
[02:36] <Minataku> LRO
[02:36] <Minataku> Left-to-Right Override ;3
[02:36] <cole> 
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> kanji
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> which are actually very well represented
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> i'm not aure but I think that says "Vista sucks..."
[02:36] <Minataku> 
[02:36] <cole> 
[02:36] <BluesKaj> !jp | cole
[02:36] <ubotu> cole:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[02:36] <Minataku> I beat ya to it, cole
[02:36] <Daisuke_Ido> little cyrillic there...
[02:36] <cole> lol
[02:37] <cole> at least i ment somthing
[02:37] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:37] <Daisuke_Ido> show me !kung and i'll be impressed.
[02:37] <cole> YUChZhEgtsEYuShfSbilmee  what u put
[02:37] <Minataku> Yeah, mine was frantic clicking
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !ch
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <Minataku> !ru
[02:37] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !ma
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <cole> > Please go to # ubuntu-ru for assistance in Russian
[02:38] <cole> btw it was english
[02:38] <cole> i sied english
[02:38] <cole> ^^
[02:38] <Minataku> Heh
[02:38] <Minataku> Yeah, all I know is English
[02:38] <Minataku> So... yeah XD
[02:38] <BluesKaj> !gr
[02:38] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[02:38] <Minataku> Cool
[02:38] <cole> inglese
[02:38] <cole> !jp
[02:38] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 
[02:38] <Minataku> Hm
[02:38] <Minataku> !sw
[02:38] <Sloik> What's the best web browser in you guys' opinions?
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <cole> !ar
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Minataku> !il
[02:38] <ubotu>         :
[02:38] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[02:38] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:39] <Minataku> Oooh, a bug
[02:39] <Daisuke_Ido> !kr
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <BluesKaj> what's mandarin and cantonese ?
[02:39] <elementrus86> hello
[02:39] <Minataku> !ch
[02:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <Minataku> Er
[02:39] <cole> !great
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[02:39] <nosrednaekim> hey BluesKaj
[02:39] <Minataku> !cn
[02:39] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:39] <cole> !sp
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[02:39] <cole> !sa
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[02:39] <elementrus86> my ipod only shows up on my system if I boot with it plugged in
[02:39] <BluesKaj> hi nosrednaekim
[02:39] <elementrus86> no other way
[02:39] <cole> !la
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[02:39] <cole> !cl
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[02:39] <Minataku> elementrus86: Problem solved then
[02:39] <elementrus86> lol no
[02:39] <cole> !el
[02:39] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:39] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> stop spamming the channel !!!
[02:39] <Sloik> cole: Could you stop, please?
[02:39] <elementrus86> i cant reboot every time i need my ipod
[02:39] <Minataku> Yeah, stop now
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> !spam
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[02:40] <Minataku> !botabuse
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[02:40] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
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[02:40] <Minataku> Oooh
[02:40] <Minataku> !sex
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[02:40] <Sloik> Could you stop with the bot, please?
[02:40] <Minataku> Haha
[02:40] <elementrus86> dude wtf
[02:40] <elementrus86> stop that
[02:40] <elementrus86> lol
[02:40] <BluesKaj> !botabuse
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[02:40] <Alarm> hello, i got a question, when installing a package. for example amarok, it installs other packages also (ruby for example as a dependency). when removing it again. it removes only the amarok , leaving the rest that was installed (ruby in that case) back. is there a way when i want to remove amarok  (or any other package) to remove also the packages that where installed with it ?
[02:41] <cole> C()l_llcl y()l_l 57()p w17h 73h |3()7, p13453?
[02:41] <elementrus86> lol does kubuntu 6.10 live cd come with a firewall?
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Alarm: install and remove with amarok
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> OI
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> Alarm: install and remove with aptitude
[02:41] <TroubledGuy> ACTION needs help. He's is an absolute newbie to Linux and Ubuntu; had his XP computer crashed and won't boot (blue scree of death). He hasn't backed up information in 8 months, and when tries to re-install Windows it says that it can't install in the existing partition; which means i need to format my hard drive. When I load kUbuntu and try to click on my hard drive it gives me the error can't find /dev/hda1 in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab -
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> mention amarok in the message :\
[02:41] <Minataku> TroubledGuy: Too long
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds like a not-so-pleasant hard drive problem
[02:42] <Alarm> Daisuke_Ido,  aptitute i a command or gui application
[02:42] <TroubledGuy> I feel screwed
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Alarm, try using aptitude to remove pkges , it also removes uneeded dependencies
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> Alarm: a command
[02:42] <cole> Try th1s l33t tr4nsl4t0r.
[02:42] <cole> Typ3 1n h3r3, 4nd s33 th3 w0rds tr4nsl4t3 t0 l33t.
[02:42] <Minataku> Sorry, assisting people is tough work... gotta screw around every so often, ya know?
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> also a curses based console app, but that's neither here nor there
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> no.  no leet. it's evil.
[02:42] <Sloik> [19:37]  *** ubuntu__ is now known as TroubledGuy.
[02:42] <Minataku> cole: It's broken
[02:42] <Minataku> It's missing a few
[02:42] <cole> what
[02:43] <Minataku> Like l to 1 and t to 7
[02:43] <TroubledGuy> I've been trying to fix it for the past 3 hours. no luck.
[02:43] <Alarm> so everything that is installed now with apt-get , aptitute cant remove the uneeded dependencies ?
[02:43] <cole> 7 7|-|1$ 337 74|\|$470.
[02:43] <cole> 7p3 1|\| |-|33, 4|\| $33 7|-|3 \/\/0$ 74|\|$473 70 337.
[02:43] <cole> better?
[02:43] <Sloik> Dude, cole, stop the spamming.
[02:43] <Minataku> That's just garbage
[02:43] <Minataku> :P
[02:43] <cole> 100%leet
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> TroubledGuy: if it can't find hda1, look for sda1
[02:43] <Minataku> Nah, that's trash :P
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> 100% childish
[02:43] <cole> lol
[02:44] <cole> back to topic
[02:44] <cole> install wont stop and its sloooow
[02:44] <cole> start
[02:44] <cole> **
[02:44] <TroubledGuy> Daisuke_ido: I wish I could. All I know is how to double click on the hard drive that shows in the home screen. It does recognize the volume's name, though, so I think it is the one I want
[02:44] <nzk> will doubling my ram from 512mb to 1gb make any difference in my linux performance?
[02:45] <Minataku> nzk: Yes
[02:45] <Darkkish> so like
[02:45] <Minataku> Maybe not as much of an increase as you'd see in Windows, which sucks
[02:45] <BluesKaj> Minataku, will aptitude remove the unneeded dependencies if installed by apt ...i fail to understand why it wouldn't but I'm still learning too.
[02:45] <Darkkish> on my computer,
[02:45] <Darkkish> x won't start
[02:46] <Darkkish> I have no idea why, it was working fine earlier
[02:46] <Darkrift> ty mucho
[02:46] <Minataku> BluesKaj: I have no idea. It may, but then certain deps may be used by other packages which would make removing them a Bad Idea TM.
[02:46] <Sloik> Darkkish: Doing anything with video drivers or xorg.conf later?
[02:46] <nzk> Minataku, for me ubuntu was faster than windows but when one of my ram  sticks shorted
[02:46] <Sloik> earlier*
[02:46] <Darkrift> build-essential seems to have helped
[02:46] <Minataku> Darkrift: Yeah, Ubuntu thinks you should never be compiling anything, so it gives you nothing to let you do it
[02:47] <Darkrift> ndis built
[02:47] <Darkkish> Sloik, I guess i made some odd change to my NVidia drivers
[02:47] <BluesKaj> yes Minataku , that why i used the word "unneeded"
[02:47] <Darkrift> lol
[02:47] <Minataku> You have to explicitly get it all yourself
[02:47] <Darkkish> but idk what it was >_>
[02:47] <Sloik> Darkkish: That's the problem... I'
[02:47] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Either way, I have no idea, because I use Portage
[02:47] <Sloik> m assuming
[02:47] <weswh-work> I am looking to build a screaming fast Kubuntu workstation - what's my best bet processor wise? Is much software taking advantage of dual core offerings like a Core 2 Duo? (which is 32 bit, i believe?)
[02:47] <Sloik> Darkkish: What did you change?
[02:47] <Minataku> weswh-work: UltraSPARC-III
[02:47] <Darkkish> I don't remember
[02:47] <weswh-work> ideally I'd get something 64bit Dual Core - just don't want to get something that the software doesn't support well.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> hehe, ok Minataku , what is portage ?
[02:47] <Darkkish> it was a command someone gave me, to fix beryl
[02:47] <Minataku> Or UltraSPARC-T1
[02:48] <Minataku> BluesKaj: I'm a Gentoo user
[02:48] <weswh-work> Minataku: those run AMD?
[02:48] <Sloik> Hmm... Well I can't really help you from there... I'm no expert on Linux myself. :P
[02:48] <Minataku> weswh-work: No, those are SPARC chips
[02:48] <Sloik> Sorry
[02:48] <Minataku> I'm half-messing with you
[02:48] <weswh-work> ah...interesting. ok :)
[02:48] <Minataku> As for me, I love Intel if it has to be a PC
[02:48] <Minataku> As for 64bit in a PC... useless
[02:48] <weswh-work> fair enough
[02:49] <Minataku> Stick with 32, or get a 64 and run a 32 OS
[02:49] <BluesKaj> Gentoo user hanging out with Kubuntu ppl ....life must be lonely in gentooland :)
[02:49] <weswh-work> is much in Ubuntu taking advantage of dual core?
[02:49] <Minataku> Nah, I just like to help
[02:49] <Minataku> weswh-work: Considering it's the kernel that takes advantage of such, anything using the Linux kernel will
[02:49] <Minataku> And yes, dual core is the way to go
[02:50] <TroubledGuy> would someone terribly mind helping me mount my windows-crashed c: drive? I'm panicking here. I can explain all the details in private.
[02:50] <weswh-work> I built a freebsd server earlier this year with a 3000 series Dual Core Xeon. I'd be tempted to go that road again.
[02:50] <weswh-work> cool..good to know.
[02:50] <weswh-work> so the kernel, not the individual applications, take control of distributing the CPU load?
[02:50] <Minataku> The kernel runs the whole show
[02:50] <Minataku> But individual apps can be set up to multithread
[02:51] <Minataku> Whether or not the binary packages that are provided do this or not, who knows
[02:51] <Minataku> Personally, I'd go with Gentoo
[02:51] <Minataku> Especially on a brand-new system
[02:51] <Minataku> Plus you seem to know what you're doing
[02:51] <Minataku> So I'd honestly have to completely disapprove of Kubuntu for your uses
[02:52] <weswh-work> heh, I don't know...it's so low maintenance.
[02:52] <Darkrift> damn
[02:52] <Darkrift> so i got ndiswrapper installed
[02:52] <Darkrift> but it doesnt like my drivers :(
[02:52] <Sloik> TroubledGuy: Is the drive NTFS?
[02:53] <OhMyAudi> How do I get the system to shut down when I hit the power button, instead of bringing up the log off dialog???
[02:53] <Darkrift> couldn't find SourceDisksFiles section - continuing anyway...
[02:53] <Darkrift> couldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete
[02:53] <Darkrift> i get those 2 errors with any driver i pick
[02:53] <weswh-work> when I get on this machine, I want my dual displays, play movies, music, web development, open office etc. Not sure what else I would need. I went to FreeBSD for our server at the office because it was so stripped down and made server maintenance easy for me
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: what does it say?
[02:54] <Darkrift> couldn't find SourceDisksFiles section - continuing anyway...
[02:54] <Darkrift> couldn't get manufacturer section - installation may be incomplete
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> oh never mind
[02:54] <weswh-work> but my only experience with Gentoo was about 3 years ago, and it was a pain :P Of course I know a bit more than I did then.
[02:54] <Darkrift> sudo make
[02:54] <Darkrift> sudo make install
[02:54] <Darkrift> cd /the dir where your windows networkdrivers are/
[02:54] <Darkrift> sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5 (or other driver name if you have another card)
[02:54] <Darkrift> sudo ndiswrapper -l (making sure the driver is installed)
[02:54] <Darkrift> thats teh tutorial im following
[02:54] <Darkrift> make worked
[02:54] <Darkrift> make install worked
[02:54] <Minataku> weswh-work: It's also no doubt improved as well
[02:54] <weswh-work> all I remember is typing emerge and waiting 2 days. hehe
[02:54] <Darkrift> but installing drivers isnt
[02:54] <Minataku> Heh
[02:55] <Minataku> Yeah, on a shiny new system, you'd wait maybe 7 hours
[02:55] <Minataku> If even that
[02:55] <weswh-work> so you think it makes a good workstation OS?
[02:55] <Minataku> I use it as such
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: wait... you have to specify an inf file
[02:55] <Sloik> Darkrift: Are you typing in the name of the INF file?
[02:55] <Darkrift> no
[02:55] <Darkrift> cause the folder it tells me to go to has no inf files
[02:55] <weswh-work> what advantage does it have over Kubuntu - if the idea is to get a functional KDE environment going
[02:55] <Sloik> That's a problem.
[02:55] <Darkrift> the tut says go to c:\windows\system32\drivers
[02:56] <Darkrift> and the file in that folder is bcmwl6.sys
[02:56] <Darkrift> no inf exist int hat folder :s
[02:56] <Darkrift> so i was confused
[02:56] <Sloik> Darkrift: You need to download the windows drivers for your wireless card...
[02:56] <Darkrift> i do have the driver install folder
[02:56] <Darkrift> that has an inf
[02:56] <Darkrift> and that one says invalid too
[02:56] <Sloik> I don't know what that tutorial is telling you to do...
[02:56] <Sloik> Oh
[02:56] <Minataku> weswh-work: Everything is compiled to your specific system and specifications
[02:56] <Minataku> Instead of to some crusty 486 sitting in the Canonical offices :P
[02:57] <Sloik> So you typed in the exact name of the INF and it still threw an error?
[02:57] <Darkrift> lemme try again
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: you have to put .inf at the end you know
[02:57] <weswh-work> Minataku: yeah, that is true. I guess I see your point there esp. with regard to dual core procs etc.
[02:57] <wuhao> somebody here?
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> wuhao: we never sleep
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> wuhao: there is always someone here
[02:58] <Minataku> Except on Wednesdays
[02:58] <Minataku> Which is today
[02:58] <Sloik> Minataku: Hah
[02:58] <Minataku> So this is all prerecorded
[02:58] <Minataku> Please leave a message at the beep.
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a better audio editor than audacity?
[02:58] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf
[02:58] <Darkrift> driver bcmwl6 is already installed
[02:58] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$
[02:58] <Darkrift> odd
[02:58] <wuhao> somebody can speak Chinese?
[02:58] <Minataku> !cn
[02:58] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> because audacity is starting to irk me
[02:58] <Darkrift> i think i need to remove the fauled ones
[02:58] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: No
[02:58] <wuhao> hehe
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> all i need is good spectral analysis
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: no... its ok... try modprobing ndiswrapper
[02:59] <Darkrift> ooooh
[02:59] <wuhao> my poor English!
[02:59] <Sloik> ndiswrapper -r INF
[02:59] <Darkrift> seems to have worked after removing
[02:59] <Minataku> wuhao: Seems pretty good to me
[02:59] <Sloik> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:59] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf
[02:59] <Darkrift> driver bcmwl6 is already installed
[02:59] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -r bcmwl6
[02:59] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl6.inf
[02:59] <Darkrift> installing bcmwl6 ...
[02:59] <Darkrift> darkrift@HP:/media/sda1/sp34488$
[02:59] <Minataku> Darkrift: Stop that
[02:59] <Sloik> Darkrift: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:59] <Daisuke_Ido> wuhao: your ESL is better than most native speakers'
[02:59] <wuhao> thx
[03:00] <Darkrift> got nothing Sloik
[03:00] <wuhao> very much!
[03:00] <Sloik> It's not supposed to output anything....
[03:00] <Sloik> Your wireless card should start working though.
[03:00] <wuhao> I am a new fisher of Kubuntu!
[03:00] <Darkrift> then it worked! lol
[03:00] <Darkrift> lemme try my speed i guess
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: looks good...  modprobe it, and remove your bcm module
[03:00] <Sloik> try sudo ndiswrapper -l
[03:00] <Darkrift> ooooh
[03:00] <Darkrift> how do i remove my old driver?
[03:00] <Darkrift> its using an alternate driver
[03:01] <Darkrift> bcm43xx
[03:01] <Darkrift> somethign about blacklisting it?
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Darkrift: a reboot is best, after blacklisting your braodcom driver
[03:01] <Minataku> This is Linux
[03:01] <Minataku> You don't reboot
[03:01] <Darkrift> lol
[03:01] <Minataku> If it works, it works, leave it
[03:01] <Minataku> You're fine
[03:01] <Darkrift> its not working
[03:01] <Minataku>  21:01:36 up 87 days, 16:27,  6 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[03:01] <Darkrift> cause my old driver is loaded
[03:01] <Darkrift> how do i blacklist?
[03:02] <Darkrift> im still fairly new here
[03:02] <Minataku> Darkrift: You used that "sudo ndiswrapper -r" command
[03:02] <Minataku> Try that again
[03:02] <weswh-work> Minataku: speaking of Sparc chips though - some people told me a while back that if I thought FreeBSD was a big improvement over Linux in terms of server use - that I would feel the same way going from FreeBSD to Solaris. any thoughts?
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> I have to go... Minataku'll take care of you
[03:02] <Minataku> Perhaps not in the loving, nurtring sense as much as the baseball bat sense
[03:02] <Minataku> j/k
[03:02] <Minataku> weswh-work: Solaris only on SPARC chips
[03:03] <Minataku> That's my personal policy
[03:03] <Darkrift> the -r command remvoes drives rom ndiswrapper right?
[03:03] <Darkrift> illcheck the man pages
[03:03] <Minataku> Darkrift: I guess so. Did it do that before?
[03:03] <Sloik> Darkrift: I'm pretty sure.
[03:03] <Darkrift> yes, i removed all the rest
[03:03] <Minataku> It was part of the stuff you pasted into here
[03:03] <Minataku> lol
[03:03] <Darkrift> but the broadcom drivers arent part of ndiswrapper
[03:03] <Minataku> That's where I got the -r idea XD
[03:03] <Darkrift> they were installed during the kubuntu install
[03:03] <dwidmann> Minataku: why such a policy?
[03:04] <Darkrift> it said i need to blacklist them
[03:04] <Minataku> dwidmann: Use the OS for the chip
[03:04] <Minataku> IRIX for SGI-MIPS
[03:04] <Minataku> Solaris for SPARC
[03:04] <Sloik> Yeah
[03:04] <Sloik> Also
[03:04] <Minataku> Linux for x86
[03:04] <Sloik> do sudo ndiswrapper -m
[03:04] <dwidmann> _64 :)
[03:04] <Minataku> dwidmann: x86_64 should be booted only in x86 mode
[03:04] <Minataku> x86_64 is useless
[03:05] <Darkrift> module configuration already contains alias directive
[03:05] <Minataku> All it provides is trouble
[03:05] <dwidmann> useless? how so?
[03:05] <dwidmann> what trouble?
[03:05] <Sloik> Darkrift: Oh, cool.
[03:05] <Minataku> Various sets of complications
[03:05] <Sloik> Darkrift: Well I'm not sure about blacklisting...
[03:05] <dwidmann> Liiiiiiiike?
[03:05] <Minataku> Regarding incompatibilities and such
[03:05] <Darkrift> ill google it
[03:05] <Darkrift> thx for help guys
[03:05] <Darkrift> afk 3
[03:05] <Minataku> dwidmann: For example, no Flash with 64
[03:05] <Sloik> Darkrift: No problem
[03:05] <dwidmann> Minataku: easily worked around
[03:06] <Minataku> How so?
[03:06] <dwidmann> nspluginwrapper
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> there shouldn't have to be a ton of workarounds though :\
[03:06] <Minataku> Still, multicore is where the future is
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> adobe's just stubborn (and/or lazy)
[03:06] <Darkrift> sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:06] <Minataku> Not 64 bit
[03:06] <Darkrift> seems thats how you do it :)(
[03:06] <dwidmann> Minataku: multi-core 64-bit :)
[03:06] <Minataku> dwidmann: Only if booted in 32bit mode
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> rezound looks like it might be what i'm looking for
[03:07] <Sloik> Darkrift: Cool
[03:07] <Daisuke_Ido> and 64 bit will be useful eventually
[03:07] <Minataku> 64bit has absolutely no true advantage for any common-enough application
[03:07] <dwidmann> Daisuke_Ido: besides, there aren't A TON of work-arounds
[03:07] <dwidmann> only a handful really
[03:07] <Darkrift> now it wants a reboot
[03:07] <Darkrift> brb in afew
[03:07] <Sloik> Darkrift: Alrighty.
[03:07] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: I'm sure Microsoft will retard that, given how Win64 is a total piece of shot
[03:08] <Darkrift> how can i reboot linux without going all the way back to grub?
[03:08] <Darkrift> anyone know?
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: no doubt
[03:08] <dwidmann> Minataku: no kidding, I tried installing that once. Just to see how it would behave. Worthless POS is the only term I could find for it.
[03:08] <Minataku> Darkrift: It's a reboot
[03:08] <Darkrift> ok
[03:08] <Minataku> You have to restart the entire system :P
[03:08] <dwidmann> 64-bit linux is for the most part pretty solid though
[03:09] <raymond> i have what is a really dumb question concerning BASH scripting
[03:10] <raymond> how do i take output save it to a file in a certain format and have it append new information to the file
[03:10] <dwidmann> raymond, feel free to ask it.
[03:10] <raymond> ?
[03:11] <dwidmann> example: ls $HOME > newfile
[03:11] <dwidmann> followup of example: ls /home >> newfile
[03:12] <dwidmann> formatting it could be considerably trickier
[03:12] <Minataku> Have the output already be in proper format
[03:13] <Minataku> Then use >> to append to an existing file
[03:13] <raymond> i have to save first and last name to the file. they are set a variables ($FNAME and $LNAME) but they have to be last name first then first name
[03:13] <Minataku> This sounds like an assignment
[03:13] <raymond> it is
[03:13] <Minataku> We don't help people cheat
[03:13] <raymond> i  missed tthe class and the book doesnt explain
[03:13] <raymond> it doesnt explain how to format the text in the file
[03:14] <raymond> i know how to actually create the file
[03:14] <raymond> just the formatting part
[03:14] <Minataku> I'd format it before putting it in the file
[03:14] <Minataku> Trying to do it afterwards would be stupid
[03:14] <dwidmann> indeed, doing it afterwards would probably involve moving it to a new file in the process
[03:14] <Minataku> Unless you created an intermediary output file, formatted what's in there then appended it's contents
[03:18] <raymond> well the instructions don't specify order so i'll just have the user input them properly and then append it to the file. then i'll just ask my instructor how i could have done it if the order was backwards. probably could write an if/elif statement but that seems to complicated for this assignment
[03:19] <Minataku> Good luck with it either way :3
[03:19] <raymond> thank you
[03:19] <Minataku> np
[03:20] <dwidmann> Personally I wouldn't do it in bash ... I'd probably do it in perl or python ... but that'd defeat the purpose of the assignment
[03:20] <Minataku> Sorry for accusing you of trying to cheat at first XD
[03:20] <raymond> thats no problem i'm sure people try to do it that way
[03:21] <raymond> i want to learn and unfortunatly my text doesnt always cover what my instructor does
[03:21] <Minataku> me nods
[03:21] <Minataku> >.<
[03:21] <Aresilek> why isn't this vlc playing the dvds from autorun??? :-S
[03:21] <dwidmann> raymond: google does though :)
[03:22] <raymond> that was going to be my next stop
[03:22] <raymond> there probably is a stupid simple way to do it,and probably says so in this book and i'm just not reading it correctly. overthinking it
[03:23] <Aresilek> why is it that vlc will play fine in i enter "wxvlc -f dvd:///dev/scd0" into the terminal. but if I add it to autorun it doesn't work?
[03:24] <dwidmann> Aresilek: not sure, I've been having the same problem
[03:25] <Aresilek> :-O
[03:25] <Aresilek> dwidmann: it's really weird isn't
[03:25] <raymond> i'm retarded. all i need to do is echo the variables for the names in the proper porder and output it to a file (echo $LNAME $FNAME >> names.txt)
[03:25] <Aresilek> dwidmann: obviously autorun does some different than the terminal run
[03:25] <raymond> see overthinking the problem
[03:25] <dwidmann> Aresilek: I'm having the same problem, except with DVDs that is, but the same problem none-the-less
[03:26] <zarilion> Hey. How do i unmount a harddrive in terminal ?
[03:26] <Aresilek> dwidmann: my problem is with dvds too, i should have mentions that :-S
[03:26] <dwidmann> raymond, see the results of that first, it depends on the contents of the variables, are there more than one in the variables?
[03:27] <Minataku> zarilion: "sudo umount <device or mount point>"
[03:27] <raymond> well the whole script asks for your first and last name. then using read i store the first and last name in a variable ($FNAME for the first and $LNAME for the last name)
[03:27] <dwidmann> Aresilek: yeah, it's weird, because it doens't have the same problem with kaffeine
[03:27] <zarilion> Minataku: Thank you :)
[03:27] <Minataku> zarilion: np
[03:27] <dwidmann> raymond: ah, so I was overthinking the problem
[03:27] <raymond> so was i
[03:28] <raymond> knew it had to be something simple. he wouldnt have us doing anything too complicated
[03:28] <raymond> thanks for your help though
[03:28] <Darkrift411> ok
[03:29] <Darkrift411> that killed my wifi
[03:29] <Darkrift411> so im back to vista :(
[03:29] <Darkrift411> i get claustrophobic with no internet access
[03:29] <Darkkish_Box> well
[03:29] <Darkkish_Box> linux problem sare gone
[03:30] <Darkkish_Box> kinda bored.
[03:30] <Darkrift411> fix mine
[03:30] <Darkrift411> lol
[03:30] <dwidmann> Darkrift411: perhaps you'd have better luck with a different wifi card?
[03:30] <Darkrift411> well
[03:30] <Darkrift411> this is a laptop
[03:30] <Darkrift411> so short of $30
[03:30] <Darkrift411> thats not easy to do
[03:30] <Darkkish_Box> Darkrift411: try a USB wif card..
[03:31] <Darkkish_Box> on second thought
[03:31] <Darkkish_Box> i don't recommend that
[03:31] <Darkrift411> i need ot find out how to fix what i just did
[03:32] <Darkrift411> so at least i have slow internet
[03:32] <Darkrift411> lol
[03:32] <Darkrift411> i made a text file with the ndis errors on bootup
[03:32] <Darkrift411> but its on teh linux partition
[03:32] <Darkrift411> and i dont know how to get it in vista :(
[03:32] <Darkkish_Box> uh
[03:32] <Darkkish_Box> hold that thought
[03:32] <dwidmann> Darkrift411: in all probablility you can't get to it in vista
[03:32] <Darkkish_Box> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:33] <Darkrift411> figured
[03:33] <Darkkish_Box> try that
[03:33] <Darkrift411> maybe unblacklisting the old driver would work
[03:33] <Darkrift411> problem is
[03:33] <Darkrift411> i cant get to teh web pages that told me what i was doing now
[03:33] <Darkrift411> lol
[03:34] <jtt> Darkkish, use a live cd to xfer it to vista
[03:34] <Darkkish_Box> hmm?
[03:37] <sthompson> Can someone check a possible KDE bug? I'm not sure if this is a Kubuntu issue or a KDE issue
[03:37] <sthompson> Copy an OpenOffice document to the desktop and see if it becomes transparent
[03:37] <zarilion> Im having some problems with the NTFS Configuration tool, i mounted my other HDD in a new place just now but cant read it from my user, only root, when i try to change permissions it wont let me. Even in root. When i try to use NFTS config tool it just tells me that it cant do anything with the drive since its mounted somewhere else now :(
[03:37] <apol> sthompson: I tried it some time ago, it happens
[03:38] <sthompson> KDE or Kubuntu
[03:38] <apol> kde
[03:38] <jtt> sthompson, i also have had that problem
[03:38] <apol> but you can send it to launchpad as well
[03:38] <sthompson> I filed a bug report today and I didn't see any other bugs that matched. THANKS
[03:38] <jtt> sthompson, kde or Kub  anyones guess
[03:39] <sthompson> Well, if it happens on another distro then i'd say it's a KDE bug. Trying to determine if it's Kubuntu specific
[03:39] <nepsmthng> does anybody has any idea about installing durpal on ubuntu
[03:39] <nepsmthng> ?
[03:42] <Darkrift411> damnit
[03:42] <Darkrift411> im pissed
[03:42] <Darkrift411> if i go back to kubuntu to try to fix it, im on my own with no internet
[03:42] <Darkrift411> if i stay here where i have help, i cant try anything
[03:42] <Aresilek> How is a program run differently in autorun, than in the shell?
[03:42] <sthompson> I'll check the launchpad. Thanks!
[03:42] <Darkrift411> i wish someone had created a package to install that would rix it
[03:43] <Darkrift411> rix = fix
[03:44] <nepsmthng> which wifi card do u have?
[03:44] <sthompson> see ya.
[03:45] <Darkrift411> its the broadcom
[03:45] <Darkrift411> forgot model
[03:45] <RawSewage> whats the command line to clear a playlist in Amarok
[03:46] <zarilion> anyone know why i cant change permissions for a HDD ?
[03:46] <nepsmthng> that always sucks
[03:46] <nepsmthng> i had a trouble once
[03:46] <Aresilek> How do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?
[03:47] <Darkrift411> i cant find the model of the chipset
[03:48] <Darkkish> what is the best multi-im client?
[03:48] <zarilion> i like kopete
[03:48] <Darkkish> ew
[03:48] <Darkkish> i don't :(
[03:49] <nepsmthng>  ru using 7.04/
[03:49] <zarilion> try gaim.. or what ever its called these days
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> Repository still has Gaim 2.0beta
[03:50] <zarilion> ok
[03:50] <Darkkish> how can i update my repo for the newest gaim and the newest Thunderbird
[03:50] <zarilion> check the web page of pedgin or what its called. not in deb yet, someone needs to make a .deb package of it first i guess
[03:51] <Darkrift411> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/prodinfoCategory?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=3340118&lang=en# <---- thats the laptop i have, but i cant find the wireless chipset model anywhere
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> If they aren't in the repository, there's nothing you can do to change that
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> Well, short of taking over as the maintainer
[03:51] <Dragnslcr> You can install them manually if you really want to
[03:51] <Darkkish> pidgin looks nice
[03:52] <Dragnslcr> It's pretty good
[03:52] <Darkkish> Dragnslcr: i hate installing things manually
[03:52] <Darkkish> i have no idea how to do it properly
[03:52] <Dragnslcr> Couple things it does better than Kopete, but Gaim's been around a lot longer
[03:53] <Dragnslcr> I would guess that within a year or two Kopete will be as good as Pidgin, if not better
[03:54] <Minataku> Yeah, you have to get the debs from them and such
[03:54] <Minataku> Because Ubuntu handles the repositories in a rather stupid manner
[03:54] <Darkrift411> damnit
[03:54] <Darkrift411> this sucks
[03:54] <Aresilek> How do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?
[03:54] <Minataku> You know what else sucks? Vacuum cleaners.
[03:55] <Darkrift411> and space!
[03:55] <Darkrift411> space sucks hard
[03:56] <sthompson>  oops
[03:56] <Darkkish> http://shortbrain.org/vinc-files/debs/im/pidgin_2.0.0-1_i386.deb
[03:57] <Darkkish> k now that i dl'd the deb
[03:57] <Darkkish> what do i do?
[03:57] <Darkrift411> another thing that bothers me, when i download the drivers from compaq, i get bcmwl6, but all the tutorials say use bcmwl5
[03:57] <Darkrift411> :S :(
[03:57] <Darkkish> wq
[03:57] <Darkkish> ew*
[03:57] <Darkkish> compaq >_>
[03:58] <Aresilek> How do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?
[03:59] <Darkkish> what do i do with a deb file?
[04:00] <Darkrift411> omfg dude
[04:00] <Darkkish> oh
[04:00] <Darkkish> nvm
[04:00] <Darkkish> neat
[04:00] <Darkkish> dude I'm new, don't be an ass lol
[04:00] <Darkrift411> apparently nobody here knows
[04:00] <Darkrift411> dont keep asking the same thing every 15 lines
[04:00] <Darkrift411> either wait for a response or word it differently
[04:00] <Darkrift411> not you Darkkish, im new too
[04:01] <Darkrift411> lol
[04:01] <Darkrift411> talking about the guy wanting autorun
[04:01] <Darkkish> oh
[04:01] <Darkkish> okay
[04:01] <Darkkish> i thought you were going a little nuts on me there :p
[04:01] <Darkkish> lol
[04:01] <Darkrift411> i hate repeating questions like that
[04:02] <Darkkish> hmm
[04:02] <Darkkish> so there is no trick to installing a deb right? Just right click, install deb?
[04:02] <eljefe> cole and Darkrift -sorry guys i got hung up, cannot work right now
[04:02] <Darkrift411> not a problem eljefe
[04:02] <eljefe> yes :)
[04:02] <eljefe> ok bye
[04:02] <Darkrift411> others have been helpfull
[04:02] <Darkrift411> ty
[04:02] <eljefe> cool
[04:02] <Darkkish> i can't find it using katapault or my menu
[04:03] <jtt> dpkg -i  filename.deb  installs  .deb pkg
[04:04] <Darkkish> dpg: error
[04:05] <jason_> has anyone used Envy to install nvidia/ati drivers before?
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: hey... did everything work with your wireles?
[04:06] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: that was Qb_Master's wireless and my current assumption is no not yet
[04:06] <Darkkish> lol
[04:06] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: I'm getting dpkg errors
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> qb_master's?
[04:07] <ray_> hello
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> hello
  where are you from
[04:10] <Darkkish> !pastebin
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:10] <Aresilek> How do I get it so kubuntu runs a command in the shell whenever a dvd is inserted?
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> coffeefoam: umm why?
[04:11] <Darkkish> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24527/ i get this when trying to do dpkg
[04:12] <Darkrift411> ok, back to kubuntu to try some more crap
[04:12] <Darkrift411> afk a bit
[04:12] <coffeefoam> what is umm mean?
[04:12] <coffeefoam> sorry i can't understant what you said, nosrednaekim.
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> coffeefoam: why do you want to know?
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: you are trying to overwrite a file owned by GAIM I beleive... do you have GAIM installed?
[04:14] <Darkkish> um yeah.
[04:14] <Darkkish> should I uninstall it?
[04:15] <coffeefoam> I am curious about you. If you don't tell with me , it dosen't matter. sorry
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> coffeefoam: ok.. i'm in the USA.
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: yeah.
[04:15] <coffeefoam> kubuntu is very clearly, I like it.
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> coffeefoam: just wondering.
[04:16] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: still getting the error.
[04:16] <coffeefoam> nosrednaekim i'm in the China
[04:16] <Darkkish> um
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: look around for a "nm"
[04:17] <coffeefoam>  do you work with ubuntu, nosrednaekim?
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> coffeefoam: not really.
[04:17] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: how am i supposed to use dpkg?
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: "sudo dpkg -i <package  file>
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: I think there is a way to force though.
[04:18] <Darkkish> oh.
[04:18] <Darkkish> lol
[04:18] <Darkkish> i'm stupid
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> i'm looking for where nm comes from.
[04:19] <coffeefoam> you can "man dpkg", read this document for you
[04:19] <Darkkish> no i know what my problem is
[04:19] <Darkkish> thanks
[04:19] <Darkkish> wait nope
[04:19] <Darkkish> i was wrong
[04:19] <coffeefoam> nosrednaekim, "no really" what thats mean?
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: where did you get this pidgin deb from?
[04:21] <Darkkish> uh
[04:21] <Darkkish> some website >_>
[04:21] <Darkkish> i right clicked and tried installing
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: yeah.....what website?
[04:21] <Darkkish> just in the menu
[04:21] <Darkkish> idk if that worked or not
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> coffeefoam: i'm not.
[04:21] <Darkkish> nope it didn't
[04:21] <Darkkish> okay
[04:22] <Darkkish> http://www.letshaveadream.com/2007/05/16/pidgin-deb-package/
[04:22] <coffeefoam> nosrednaekim, do you like perl?
[04:23] <darkrift> when all else fails
[04:23] <darkrift> go wired, go wired
[04:23] <darkrift> its your birfday
[04:24] <Darkkish2> right on :p
[04:24] <darkrift> anyone here really good with ndiswrapper?
[04:24] <darkrift> im still having a hell of a time
[04:24] <Darkkish2> not at all
[04:24] <Darkkish2> but
[04:24] <Darkkish2> there is a gui  utility for it
[04:24] <mike_> Beryl runs nice in Kubuntu
[04:24] <darkrift> when i do ndiswrapper -l (list)
[04:24] <Darkkish2> idk if it works
[04:24] <darkrift> i get this
[04:24] <darkrift> bcmwl6 : driver installed
[04:24] <darkrift>         device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[04:24] <Darkkish2> dude
[04:24] <Darkkish2> use bwlcutter
[04:24] <Darkkish2> or w/e it's called bcmcutter or something
[04:24] <Darkkish2> it works way better
[04:24] <darkrift> im guessing that means there is a second driver already loaded causing probs
[04:24] <darkrift> fwcutter
[04:24] <darkrift> and i tried it
[04:24] <tuly> tt
[04:24] <darkrift> my internet was limted to 10k
[04:25] <Darkkish2> worked for me >_> after quiet a hard time
[04:25] <Darkkish2> oh
[04:25] <darkrift> and im on a 10mb connection
[04:25] <darkrift> with 54mb wifi :S
[04:25] <darkrift> bottleneck was definatly the drivers
[04:25] <Darkkish2> your internet isn't that fast
[04:25] <Darkkish2> lol
[04:25] <darkrift> yes it is
[04:25] <Darkkish2> orly?
[04:25] <Darkkish2> have you ever downloaded something at >10mb/s
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> darkrift: did you blacklist your bcm module?
[04:26] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: http://www.letshaveadream.com/2007/05/16/pidgin-deb-package/ that is the website
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> darkrift: run this "lsmod | grep bcm"
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: well as you can see... this is his first debian package.
[04:28] <Darkkish> what? lol
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: not very professional.. I wouldn't use it/
[04:28] <Darkkish> oh
[04:28] <Darkkish> yeah okay
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> look around some more.. I saw one around somewhere.
[04:29] <Darkkish2> i found a repo
[04:29] <Darkkish2> should i try that?
[04:29] <darkrift_> damnit
[04:29] <darkrift_> friggen lag
[04:29] <darkrift_> go for it
[04:29] <darkrift_> you only live once
[04:29] <Aresilek> dwidmann: if your still here I got it to work
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: where?
[04:30] <coffeefoam> join
[04:30] <Darkkish> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437239
[04:30] <Darkkish> i don't know how to add the key thing
[04:30] <dwidmann> Aresilek: ooooh, do tell
[04:31] <Aresilek> the command i used was: wxvlc -f dvd:///dev/scd0 %u
[04:31] <dwidmann> Darkkish: download the key, then "sudo apt-key add FILE"
[04:31] <Aresilek> dwidmann:  the command i used was: wxvlc -f dvd:///dev/scd0 %u
[04:32] <dwidmann> Aresilek: ah, so adding %u to the end made it work
[04:32] <Aresilek> yup :-)
[04:32] <dwidmann> Aresilek: thanks for the discovery, I owe you one :)
[04:32] <Aresilek> dwidmann: i think vlc just ignores the extra arguments :-P
[04:33] <dwidmann> Aresilek: hmm, might
[04:33] <Aresilek> dwidmann: nah, u don't owe me anything :-)
[04:33] <darkrift_> oh shit
[04:33] <darkrift_> i just ran adept to upgrade all the upgradeable stuff
[04:33] <darkrift_> and all of the suden i get a warning
[04:34] <darkrift_> "Power manager" Your battery has been removed!
[04:34] <darkrift_> power remaining 0%
[04:36] <faidillinger> re
[04:37] <darkrift_> ok
[04:37] <darkrift_> so im still nowhere :(
[04:37] <darkrift_> and now my battery isnt detected :)(0
[04:39] <crackhead_25> question: how do i test my printer to see if it's working in its current setup on kubuntu? it was working yesterday, but now when i click print, it seems to send the signal, but the printer doesn't respond or print..
[04:40] <crackhead_25> anyone know why that might be, as well?
[04:40] <crackhead_25> was there a recent cups update or something which might have messed things up?
[04:40] <crackhead_25> how could i roll back any changes of the last week in cups or something?
[04:41] <darkrift_> ok
[04:41] <darkrift_> who here knows how to completely remove a device
[04:41] <darkrift_> and all its drivers
[04:41] <Darkkish2> hey i like pidgen
[04:42] <darkrift_> i wanna start all over with my wifi care
[04:42] <darkrift_> card*
[04:42] <stumpleit> I am having big problems getting my ATI radeon 1600 that is in my macbook pro to work, could someone maybe send me a link or some advice?
[04:43] <jontec> dark_rift_: there should be a command with ndiswrapper to uninstall the module...
[04:44] <jontec> dark_rift_: I installed my card with the ndiswrapper tarballs from the official site... (I try not to use the ones with ubuntu, though they could work fine)
[04:44] <darkrift_> im talking more then just ndiswrapper
[04:44] <darkrift_> i have fwcutter
[04:44] <jontec> darkrift_: well, yeah, but this is a first step
[04:44] <jontec> darkrift_: I have no idea what fwcutter is
[04:45] <darkrift_> it takes the firmware from windows drivers
[04:45] <darkrift_> it was on a few tuts
[04:46] <stumpleit> I am having big problems getting my ATI radeon 1600 that is in my macbook pro to work, could someone maybe send me a link or some advice?
[04:47] <jontec> hmm... I've never used it (obviously)... I think that you have to remove the kernel modules that were created for your card... but I can talk in that depth
[04:47] <jontec> if no one else can help you here ask it in #ubuntu
[04:48] <jontec> 'should be more people watching
[04:48] <stumpleit> no one is answering there either lol
[04:48] <intelikey> what when where ?
[04:48] <jontec> T_T where is everyone!?! lol.
[04:49] <jontec> yay!, that guy can probably help
[04:49] <jontec> (intellikey)
[04:49] <jontec> minus one 'l'
[04:50] <intelikey> who how why ?
[04:51] <jontec> intelikey:  <stumpleit> I am having big problems getting my ATI radeon 1600 that is in my macbook pro to work, could someone maybe send me a link or some advice?
[04:51] <ace_suares> !ati
[04:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <jontec> intelikey:  <darkrift_> who here knows how to completely remove a device
[04:51] <intelikey> 'dares a link ^
[04:51] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know if there was a recent cups update??
[04:53] <intelikey> darkrift_ remove a device ?     you can use modprobe -r to remove some modules...  you can power off and take the hardware out of the case      what do you mean "remove a device" ?
[04:53] <Darkkish2> pidgen keeps like dying when i click.
[04:53] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know how to roll back a recent adept update of cups which might have messed up my printing abilities??
[04:54] <intelikey> crackhead_25 grep cups /var/log/dpkg*     should tell if there was an update
[04:55] <intelikey> crackhead_25 you "wal-mart" to a recent version by installing the specific version...
[04:55] <intelikey> errr   'roll back'
[04:55] <stumpleit> okay i have another wierd problem when i start X my mouse moves all over the place by itself how can I fix that?
[04:56] <compilerwriter> intelikey that was not fair.
[04:56] <Dr_willis> it jumps around - then settles down?
[04:56] <intelikey> that sounds like a driver/configuration issue on the mouse.
[04:56] <intelikey> compilerwriter ?
[04:57] <stumpleit> Dr_willis not its not settling down
[04:57] <compilerwriter> Wal-Mart for roll-back.  What if crackhead had just finished a bowl?  He would have had no chance at figuring it out.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> stumpleit,  i would have to guess that your device entry for the mouse in xorg.conf is incorrect then.
[04:58] <intelikey> compilerwriter that's why i left the clue-by-four lying there.
[04:59] <intelikey> figured it beet a troot
[05:00] <intelikey> compilerwriter but if you're saying "don't play"  then just say "don't play" and i'll stop.
[05:01] <billytwowilly> anybody wanna update the packages for gretl? They're pretty stale..
[05:01] <gellioth> #el-bar-del-plug
[05:02] <compilerwriter> no I am not saying don't play, but that one was a bit esoteric
[05:02] <gellioth> #kubuntu-es
[05:02] <intelikey> :)
[05:02] <intelikey> hehhe
[05:03] <compilerwriter> cheers intelikey
[05:03] <compilerwriter> night all
[05:03] <intelikey> cheers      hehhe
[05:03] <Darkkish> how do i switch between desktops with key commands?
[05:04] <intelikey> is it ctrl+rrow key  ?
[05:04] <intelikey> i think my a is dirty.
[05:05] <intelikey> i have a dirty a     or a week pinky...
[05:05] <Darkkish> not working for me
[05:05] <intelikey> darkkish    well run khotkeys and see what it's set to
[05:06] <Darkkish> guess it crashed
[05:06] <Darkkish> ugh
[05:11] <White_Lightning> Ok, so knetworkmanager is being a bitch. It won't list any wireless networks (I know that I'm connected, I'll get to that) and it won't let me change the manual stuff. By deleting the ESSID (for the millionth time) it finally connected to one of the local wireless networks here and I was able to log on. The problem is that A. I can't select the network I want B. It's not listing the networks that are in the building (and there are several) C. it
[05:11] <White_Lightning> won't let me change settings the way it should and D. it's picking networks on it's own. Any ideas?
[05:14] <White_Lightning> Ok, so knetworkmanager is being a bitch. It won't list any wireless networks (I know that I'm connected, I'll get to that) and it won't let me change the manual stuff. By deleting the ESSID (for the millionth time) it finally connected to one of the local wireless networks here and I was able to log on. The problem is that A. I can't select the network I want B. It's not listing the networks that are in the building (and there are several) C. it
[05:14] <White_Lightning> won't let me change settings the way it should and D. it's picking networks on it's own. Any ideas?
[05:14] <intelikey> !wifi | steve   best i can do is point you at this.
[05:14] <ubotu> steve   best i can do is point you at this.: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:14] <intelikey> and don't repete
[05:14] <savetheWorld> its becoming sentient!  Destroy it now before it becomes self aware!
[05:14] <tzbishop> how can i install mplayerplug-in on firefox32 (ubuntu 64 amd)??
[05:14] <White_Lightning> didn't mean to repeat I was copying it for the other chan
[05:18] <darkrift> odd
[05:18] <darkrift> i installed beryl
[05:18] <intelikey> just a thought but have you tried switching channels and hitting the up arrow   in place of copy and paste ?
[05:18] <darkrift> but its not loading :s
[05:18] <darkrift> i can change settings and themes, but noithing happens
[05:18] <intelikey> !beryl
[05:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:27] <darkrift> !beryl
[05:27] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:38] <intelikey> well, one test would be to run something like >>> echo "$(:(){ :& ; };y)" <<< and see if it did.   it probably wont though...    and >>> grep -ie OOM /boot/config-`uname -r` <<< would much safer.
[05:39] <intelikey> oooops  sorry channel.
[05:39] <Tm_T> intelikey: :p
[05:40] <intelikey> yeah too many things going on at one time...
[05:41] <darkrift> anyone able to help me install teh nvidia driver ?
[05:43] <intelikey> :(){ echo "$@" ; }
[05:43] <intelikey> crap
[05:43] <intelikey> darkrift did you look at the wiki ?
[05:43] <intelikey> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <darkrift> ill mess around with it
[05:44] <darkrift> worst comes to worst, i reinstall :)
[05:44] <intelikey> oh not for a vidio driver....
[05:44] <intelikey> reinstall for that is so... "window'ish"
[05:45] <darkrift> yeah... i wouldnt be able to fix it without help
[05:45] <intelikey> worst case  you reload xorg
[05:45] <darkrift> i couldnt know how to do that without step by step
[05:45] <darkrift> and without x working
[05:45] <darkrift> ...
[05:45] <darkrift> i installed it with adept package mgr
[05:45] <darkrift> says its installed
[05:46] <darkrift> do i need a reboot now?
[05:46] <darkrift> i installed nvidia-glx
[05:46] <intelikey> without X working you use irssi  or  BitchX and come in here for help  :)
[05:46] <darkrift> hrmmmm
[05:46] <darkrift> thanx
[05:46] <darkrift> thats good to knmow :)
[05:46] <darkrift> if it crashes
[05:46] <darkrift> how do i get to commadn line?
[05:46] <intelikey> ah you run a glxconfig -enable   or something    and then reboot  ?
[05:47] <intelikey> i'm not real sure.    i failed that class.  my card is not supported
[05:47] <intelikey> a command line    konsole
[05:47] <intelikey> !konsole
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <darkrift> if x doesnt load though?
[05:47] <darkrift> how do i boot to console without x
[05:48] <intelikey> if x doesn't load you will be in a "console"    you don't "get a command line" you login.
[05:48] <darkrift> i c
[05:48] <darkrift> cool
[05:48] <darkrift> here goes
[05:48] <darkrift> wish me luck
[05:48] <darkrift> lol
[05:48] <darkrift> cmd not found
[05:48] <darkrift> lol
[05:49] <intelikey> to view the console/s now.   ctrl+alt+f1  or f2 or f3...6   alt+f7  to get back to your GUI
[05:49] <darkrift> i should have RTFM
[05:49] <darkrift> o enable the driver, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[05:49] <intelikey> that's it.
[05:49] <intelikey> i had part of it right  :)
[05:49] <darkrift> next q, how do you restart x without rebooting?
[05:50] <darkrift> i know theres a way!
[05:50] <darkrift> lol
[05:50] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:50] <intelikey> hmmm should i have told him that was the express elevator ???
[05:51] <darkrift> ugggg
[05:51] <darkrift> my res is foooked
[05:51] <darkrift> but it worked
[05:51] <darkrift> i can see a difference  (not for the good soo far)
[05:51] <intelikey> repost    ^^^ > hmmm should i have told him that was the express elevator ???
[05:51] <darkrift> crap
[05:52] <darkrift> now i lost my widescreen res
[05:52] <darkrift> everything looks slightly blurry now too
[05:53] <haiyah> hi i need help on rebuilding array on adaptec raid controller.. i got 5 harddisks of 500gb, but its in degraded mode.. i'm on linux but it just won't rebuild by itself
[05:53] <haiyah>  even bought new harddisk and replace the one that is greyed out but it jus won't rebuild or no options to choose
[05:53] <haiyah> i'm on ubuntu is there anything i can do
[05:53] <dwidmann> intelikey: hehe, express elivator
[05:53] <darkrift> oh crap
[05:53] <darkrift> i ran beryl
[05:53] <darkrift> it ran without white screen of death
[05:53] <darkrift> but now my windows dont have title bars!
[05:55] <haiyah> what's ctrl-alt-esc ? how do i make the taskbar list out like in windows ctrl-alt-del ?
[05:55] <jriachi> hello
[05:55] <dwidmann> haiyah: ctrl + alt + escape = xkill, you get the skull and crossbones cursor and any app that you click dies.
[05:56] <dwidmann> haiyah: to get the process list, press ctrl + escape (without alt)
[05:56] <StErGi0s> hello.i have a theme *.kth how do i install it?
[05:56] <intelikey> haiyah khotkeys can change those things if you want.
[05:56] <intelikey> !theme
[05:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:57] <intelikey> !changethemes
[05:57] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[05:57] <jriachi> can you recommend me a good irc client?  i am using kvirc, but it has some bugs :S
[05:58] <stdin> konversation
[05:58] <stdin> it rocks
[05:58] <intelikey> depends on your definition of "good"
[05:58] <intelikey> i think bx is good
[05:59] <jriachi> mmm.. gui and allowing connections to diferent servers
[05:59] <ses1959_> question about cost to install power supply  I just wanted to know what it might cost to install a power supply labor?  I have the parts
[05:59] <intelikey> ok Xbx  :)
[06:00] <stdin> jriachi: konversation will do that
[06:00] <jriachi__> i am testing konversation
[06:00] <dwidmann> ses1959_: someone could charge whatever they wanted really, but it shouldn't be too much. Sure you don't wnat to do it yourself? It'd be relatively easy
[06:00] <intelikey> ses1959_ i normally get about $10 us  for that.
[06:00] <jriachi> yes, you are testing konversation, jriachi__
[06:01] <stdin> talking to yourself? :p
[06:01] <ses1959_> ok thank you i checked one place and it cost 159.00 plus parts for them
[06:01] <jriachi__> :p
[06:01] <intelikey> first sign of geekism stdin
[06:01] <ses1959_> way over then
[06:02] <jriachi__> i think i like konversation
[06:02] <ses1959_> i work on the side and have beening trying to get a good cost table put together for repairs
[06:02] <jriachi__> (i am not a geek!)
[06:02] <jriachi> (yes, you are!)
[06:02] <intelikey> second sign  talks too self about self...
[06:03] <stdin> a (not so sober) geek, so support is directed to intelikey
[06:03] <intelikey> G thanks.
[06:04] <intelikey> :)
[06:04] <stdin> kvirc is no longer maintained anyway
[06:04] <Liasno> can anyone help me when i start beryl-manager and try to switch to the beryl desktop i get the error checking for xcomposite exnteion : failed, how can I fix this I have a ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
[06:04] <jriachi__> hmmm.. in konversation can i enter in "conference mode", i.e. not seeing the joins/parts/nick changes (or seeing them in a splited window)?
[06:04] <intelikey> isn't there a fork?  something like  kirc ?
[06:05] <stdin> not sure, I just know that kvirc is dead now
[06:05] <stdin> besides konversation is much better
[06:05] <darkrift> well
[06:06] <jriachi__> hmmm... 4 months without changes in the SVN
[06:09] <jriachi__> i found the option of no joins/parts/nick... no splited window.. but that is ok :)
[06:09] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to get firefox working in vnc....i'm running kubuntu feisty
[06:09] <intelikey> jriachi i think jriachi__  is talking to you again....
[06:10] <jriachi__> :)
[06:15] <darkrift> !beryl
[06:15] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:16] <dwidmann> secleinteer: hmm, I seem to have no trouble running apps in VNC via the programs krfb and krdc ...
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> hello everyone!
[06:16] <MilhousePunkRock> I am desperately trying to enable mouse gestures for konqueror
[06:17] <intelikey> in gshadow  " scanner:!:: "   what does "!"  do ?
[06:17] <stdin> not a clue
[06:18] <jriachi__> disables the login
[06:18] <intelikey> seems to be options of "!,*,x"  and i don't see what ! does...
[06:19] <intelikey> jriachi__ ?   groups don't login do they ?
[06:19] <jriachi__> i think you can login into a group, but i dont know how
[06:20] <jriachi__> man gpasswd
[06:22] <intelikey> so the passwd is only used to join the group  hmmm learn something ever month.
[06:22] <mikes1> i have the "cude" enabled in beryl,How can I add beryl pic to black sides of the cube?
[06:22] <intelikey> used to be every day....   wonder what happened...
[06:23] <MilhousePunkRock> mikes1: --> #beryl
[06:23] <intelikey> or #ubuntu-effects
[06:23] <intelikey> affects
[06:24] <intelikey> !beryl
[06:24] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:24] <intelikey> e
[06:24] <Tm_T> intelikey: here, have some coffee
[06:24] <intelikey> :)
[06:24] <intelikey> ty
[06:25] <MilhousePunkRock> So what about my Konqueror mouse gestures now?
[06:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Nevermind, I clicked "reset" instead of "apply" in system settings..
[06:30] <eljefe> does anyone know how i can test/check my hardware
[06:31] <eljefe> like a cron job or even just a program right now, or a /proc/* or /dev/* think i can cat?
[06:31] <eljefe> other than dmesg
[06:32] <intelikey> eljefe lshw  ?
[06:33] <intelikey> eljefe not sure what you want.....  ?
[06:33] <eljefe> will that give me current errors/issues?
[06:33] <intelikey> no.
[06:33] <intelikey> what do you want to test ?
[06:33] <eljefe> i want to know if my computer has a problem since it sounds like a squeek is coming out
[06:33] <intelikey> please don't say "the computer"
[06:33] <eljefe> lol
[06:33] <intelikey> :)
[06:33] <darkrift> ok
[06:34] <darkrift> as soon as i ran beryl again, they dissapeared
[06:34] <crackhead_25> question: anyone know how to setup kubuntu to allow remote desktop sharing, i.e. my laptop connecting from another state to my desktop to see what's on the desktop?
[06:34] <darkrift> erm, wrong chan
[06:34] <eljefe> ok my computer has been making a lot of noise lately, so something is bad.  last night, my powersupply died, and i replaced it.  now i think the same sound is still present, so i want to see if some motherboard sensor notices anything.
[06:34] <intelikey> crackhead_25 ssh vnc freenx
[06:35] <darkrift> prob a cpu fan or your hd
[06:35] <darkrift> 2 main things taht make noise in there
[06:35] <intelikey> eljefe yeah fans.
[06:35] <darkrift> dying fan can kill your cpu
[06:35] <eljefe> :( thats what i want to test, if there are such tests...
[06:35] <darkrift> check that fast
[06:35] <darkrift> cause a dying fan can kill a psu too
[06:35] <intelikey> fan is #1
[06:35] <darkrift> open it and run it while its open
[06:35] <darkrift> listen for the sound
[06:36] <darkrift> pinpoint it
[06:36] <hendaus_> sivaji: wb
[06:36] <intelikey> and one can "touch the rotating fan and see if it quickly recovers it's speed or is slow and noisy"
[06:36] <darkrift> be carefull though
[06:37] <darkrift> fans these days can get quite mean
[06:37] <darkrift> lol
[06:37] <sivaji> hendaus_  what
[06:37] <eljefe> i have tried, i cannot pinpoint it.  my back fan is noisy tho lately, but that seems to be a diferent noise
[06:37] <hendaus_> sivaji:  please i need you urgent
[06:38] <hendaus_> sivaji:  i am waiting you till to finish the java installation
[06:38] <dwidmann> eljefe: try intelikeys test of touching the fan(s)
[06:38] <eljefe> i did
[06:39] <eljefe> spinning away
[06:39] <intelikey> at any rate eljefe there are two types of rotating hardware.  fan and drive   fan is in open air (obviously) and normally the first to go.  some drives like a cdrom can spin in 1x mode and give some sounds  but not be at the point of failure yet.
[06:39] <eljefe> intelikey: good point on the two types of rotating...
[06:39] <eljefe> makes sense thats what i hear
[06:40] <dwidmann> Thing about the hard drive failing is you could probably catch errors regarding the hard drives in dmesg
[06:40] <eljefe> ok well, i believe the cpu fan to be ok, if for no other reason than i hope and one of the back case fans seems noisy otherwise.
[06:40] <intelikey> insert cd and access it "causing it to spin up"  see if the sound changes.
[06:40] <eljefe> ok..
[06:41] <eljefe> anyone try the new SymphonyOS or the new MepisLite ?
[06:41] <eljefe> ok no the sound didn't change
[06:41] <eljefe> but sine i opened the case it seems to have diminished a lot
[06:41] <eljefe> \since
[06:41] <sivaji> hendaus_ i am playing chess here
[06:42] <eljefe> sivaji: what do you need?
[06:42] <hendaus_> sivaji:  please help me coz here is midnight and i have to done java coz i want to opena website support javas
[06:42] <eljefe> what is a 'ISO-13346 "UDF"' filesystem, and wwhy doe this Vista RC2 disk have it and we don't???
[06:43] <sivaji> hendaus_ ok i will come
[06:43] <dwidmann> eljefe: UDF is the filesystem most DVDs use
[06:43] <eljefe> i know but konqueror cannot open this?
[06:43] <hendaus_> sivaji:  thanx
[06:43] <dwidmann> eljefe: maybe it's not mounted properly
[06:43] <eljefe> daaang
[06:43] <intelikey> eljefe ok.  you can use a "stethiscope" on the hd to see if the sound is from there. if you don't have one use a straw...  or small rubber tubbing. but don't bust your ear drum in ignorance... :)
[06:43] <eljefe> mmm maybe, but it autoopened with konqueror/hal
[06:43] <sivaji> eljefe what do u need ?
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you around
[06:44] <eljefe> sivaji: nothing, sorry, thanks!
[06:44] <dwidmann> eljefe: I've had lots of trouble with that in the past though
[06:44] <dwidmann> eljefe: try mounting it manually first
[06:44] <eljefe> k
[06:44] <EtherBunny> uh.. not sure if anyone else has come across this, but for some reason mysqld starts when I come out of hibernation even though it wasn't running before.
[06:45] <EtherBunny> anyone know where I would look to disable that?
[06:45] <eljefe> same; a readme.txt file continging this:
[06:45] <eljefe> This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[06:45] <eljefe> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
[06:45] <eljefe> whatever, i just found it from work, it may not even function
[06:45] <eljefe> don't much care
[06:45] <intelikey> eljefe one other thing that just came to mind, concerning the deminishing of the sound.   make sure that no wire/cable can touch a fan.  that could cause a very light whine
[06:45] <eljefe> ok i gotta go to bed
[06:46] <eljefe> intelikey: yeah i looked for that last night, but thanks mate, good tips!
[06:46] <intelikey> k
[06:46] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  did u got my message?
[06:46] <eljefe> g'nite all
[06:47] <intelikey> gday
[06:47] <sivaji2009> come to yahoo ple
[06:47] <sivaji2009> hendaus_
[06:47] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  maybe i have to register to talk with you
[06:47] <hendaus_> ok
[06:47] <sivaji2009> hendaus_ that day u came
[06:47] <intelikey> !register
[06:47] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:47] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  ok
[06:47] <dwidmann> night folks
[06:48] <intelikey> gooday dwidmann
[06:48] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  i am on yahoo also
[06:59] <EtherBunny> does anyone know why my mysqld starts when I come out of hibernation even though it was off before?
[07:01] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: slightly
[07:02] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: if you're busy i can bother you at some other point
[07:03] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ok. maybe later if you're still awake. or you can just leave me a PM and I'll reply later
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: just let me know when you are free
[07:04] <Jucato> oki dokie
[07:06] <pulaski> hello
[07:06] <modjo> hello
[07:06] <modjo> ummmm i need some help
[07:06] <pulaski> modjo: I run kubuntu feisty fawn and sometimes my sound does not work.
[07:07] <pulaski> I have a SB Live! sound card and a microphone that works but none of my applications that provide sound do.
[07:07] <modjo> i need help too
[07:08] <pulaski> how do you need help? modjo
[07:08] <modjo> because i dont know how drivers are installed on kubuntu
[07:08] <pulaski> I can try ...hehe
[07:08] <modjo> i mean, i dont even know how repositories work
[07:08] <modjo> or what they used for
[07:09] <pulaski> All I know is that as far as drivers go they are all there automatically
[07:09] <modjo> i know, im a total noob (for now) but i dont know how to find a FAQ page
[07:09] <modjo> then how can i test my wireless card?
[07:09] <modjo> is the only thing so far  that doesnt work
[07:09] <pulaski> as far as repositoryies go do this at the command line:
[07:09] <pulaski> sudo apt-get update
[07:09] <modjo> what do u use repositories for?
[07:10] <pulaski> to get software and to update
[07:10] <modjo> oww
[07:10] <pulaski> when was the last time you updated?
[07:10] <modjo> so, thats not for hardware
[07:10] <modjo> mmm i havent update
[07:10] <modjo> i just intalled kubuntu
[07:10] <modjo> like 20 min ago
[07:10] <Jucato> !wireless
[07:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:10] <Jucato> modjo: ^^^^
[07:10] <pulaski> from a disk?
[07:10] <modjo> yes :D
[07:10] <Jucato> pulaski: you don't need to go to the command line to use the repositories. that's what apps like Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs are for :)
[07:11] <modjo> im leaerning really fast
[07:11] <pulaski> yes jucat you're right, there are many ways to use the repositories
[07:12] <Jucato> modjo: basically, a repository is an online database/repository of apps, packages, etc., that have been compiled for and tested to work on a particular Linux distribution. in this case, Ubuntu
[07:12] <amigosh> hi
[07:13] <pulaski> try it modjo
[07:13] <amigosh> helloooooooooooooo
[07:13] <modjo> ok, so if i need to install a new driver is it supposed to happen automatically or by the use of repositories?
[07:13] <pulaski> hi amigosh
[07:13] <EtherBunny> does anybody now where I would go to disable mysql from starting when I resume from hibernate?
[07:13] <amigosh> eh speak spanish
[07:13] <amigosh> or inglish
[07:13] <Jucato> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:13] <modjo> yo hablo espa;ol
[07:14] <modjo> hey creo que eso es facil :D
[07:14] <agent32424> hi
[07:14] <pulaski> modjo, your install should have recognized all hardware and provided appropriate drivers
[07:14] <amigosh> ?????? que es facil
[07:14] <amigosh> modjo
[07:14] <pulaski> if you think you need a driver fire up adept
[07:14] <pulaski> and search for one.
[07:14] <modjo> pense que seria facil si hubiese gnete despeirta en el canal en epsa;ol
[07:14] <modjo> pero nooooo
[07:14] <Jucato> !es | amigosh
[07:15] <jaydee> ei
[07:15] <modjo> ok ok ok wait
[07:15] <agent32424> agent22 hi!
[07:15] <amigosh> porque que buscas o solo quieres platicar
[07:15] <ubotu> amigosh: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:15] <modjo> no
[07:15] <flake> EtherBunny -you try Settings/System Admin/System Services  ?
[07:15] <jaydee> psssssssttttttttttt
[07:15] <modjo> amosh estoy buscando como probar mi tarjeta wireless
[07:15] <pulaski> Jucato, have you experienced problems with sound using feist fawn?
[07:15] <jaydee> no habla english???
[07:15] <Jucato> pulaski: nope
[07:15] <modjo> yes we do
[07:16] <jaydee> hi der
[07:16] <jaydee> wer u from
[07:16] <pulaski> jucato: thanks anyway.
[07:16] <amigosh> pues usa wiriless assitant
[07:16] <jaydee> wer r u guys from
[07:16] <modjo> donde estan esos assistants?
[07:16] <EtherBunny> my mysqld is turned off in system services and it's not set to start on boot either
[07:16] <Jucato> jaydee: this isn't a social chat room
[07:16] <jaydee> grrrrrrrhhhhhhhhh
[07:16] <agent32424> i'm from istanbul you?
[07:16] <Jucato> !topic
[07:16] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:16] <jaydee> i know
[07:17] <Jucato> hm.. bot is slow...
[07:17] <amigosh> en aplicaciones y te vas a la seccion de internet
[07:17] <pulaski> modjo, I suggest you fire up adept anyway and click the update tab then apply the updates.
[07:17] <modjo> its gonna take too long
[07:17] <modjo> :(
[07:18] <pulaski> modjo, a new install from disk is likely to need updating.
[07:18] <amigosh> o como dice pulaski actualiza
[07:18] <jaydee> jucato
[07:18] <pulaski> with broadband it doesn't
[07:18] <modjo> yes pulask and amigosh im updating
[07:18] <jaydee> i hav a question
[07:18] <Jucato> EtherBunny: I'm not sure, but I thought hibernate saves the state of your computer, including programs that were running before you hibernate. so if it's running before you hibernate, it would be run when you return
[07:18] <amigosh> pero primeramente que version tienes
[07:18] <amigosh> para saber mejor que repositorio nesesitas
[07:18] <jaydee> reg about my pc
[07:18] <EtherBunny> It's weird, this only happens with mysqld
[07:19] <jaydee> help
[07:19] <modjo> mmmm no se
[07:19] <modjo> soy completisimamente nuevo en esto
[07:19] <EtherBunny> I'm not sure where the resume scripts are..
[07:19] <pulaski> amigosh ?
[07:19] <amigosh> ok ok ok
[07:19] <amigosh> what pulaski
[07:19] <amigosh> ????
[07:19] <monday> hus dat agent32424
[07:19] <modjo> solo me gustaria tener la tarjeta wireless bien isntalada para empeszar a buscr mas agusto la demas informacion
[07:20] <jussi01au> !en
[07:20] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:20] <monday> hus dat agent32424
[07:20] <flake> Ether - wildly guessing here, but could you have a server running that is linked to it
[07:20] <monday> hus dat agent32424
[07:20] <pulaski> o como dice pulaski actualiza.. in engles por favor...
[07:20] <modjo> ok amigosh i think were being warned
[07:20] <monday> hus dat agent32424
[07:20] <modjo> maybe next time they're gonna kick us
[07:20] <amigosh> ok in inglish
[07:20] <Jucato> amigosh: English please
[07:20] <amigosh> ok ok ok
[07:21] <modjo> jajaja
[07:21] <Jucato> (sorry lagging)
[07:21] <modjo> ok let this finish updateing
[07:22] <EtherBunny> flake: going through my processes and not seeing anything that would use mysql
[07:23] <EtherBunny> also, mysqld does not start when I reboot, only if I come out of hibernate.
[07:26] <flake> Ether - you have it as off on boot-up ?
[07:26] <EtherBunny> yep
[07:27] <rodrigo> quien sabe del canal en espaol de ubuntu
[07:27] <rodrigo> ?
[07:27] <Jucato> !es | rodrigo
[07:27] <ubotu> rodrigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:34] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  where r u
[07:35] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  gnight dude
[07:36] <hendaus_> goodnight all
[07:36] <sivaji2009> hendaus_ ok
[07:37] <hendaus_> sivaji2009:  talk to u later :))
[07:37] <sivaji2009> ok
[07:40] <makuseru> hi, im trying to install a package, and it says it depends on another package, so i install the other package and it says it depends on the package i first tried to install, so its just going in one big circle, how can i install either packages?
[07:43] <intelikey> apt-get install -f
[07:44] <makuseru> i did
[07:44] <makuseru> i kinda figured it out, i got one package
[07:45] <makuseru> but the other says its the newest, but the program im tryin to install says it requires somthing newer
[07:45] <makuseru> !libxml2
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxml2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <sivaji2009> use aptitude
[07:45] <intelikey> !info libxml2
[07:45] <ubotu> libxml2: GNOME XML library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 742 kB, installed size 1436 kB
[07:46] <intelikey> !info bash
[07:46] <ubotu> bash: The GNU Bourne Again SHell. In component main, is required. Version 3.2-0ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 806 kB, installed size 1916 kB
[07:49] <makuseru> intelikey: it says "desmume depends on libxml2 (2.6.28): however: Version of libxml2 on system is 2.6.27.dfsg-1ubuntu3."
[07:51] <intelikey> makuseru then i guess you'll have to look for the source and build it.     personally if it requires newer than the repos have i don't mess with it.
[07:52] <intelikey> !find desmume
[07:52] <ubotu> Found: desmume
[07:53] <intelikey> !info desmume
[07:53] <ubotu> desmume: Nintendo DS emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 305 kB, installed size 956 kB
[07:53] <intelikey> makuseru why not use that one ?
[07:53] <makuseru> never heard of it
 intelikey: it says "desmume depends on libxml2 <<<<<
[07:54] <makuseru> i mean i didnt know there was one in the repos
[07:54] <intelikey> !source
[07:54] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[07:54] <intelikey> that's not the message i wanted.
[07:55] <intelikey> !b-e
[07:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:55] <intelikey>                   ^
[07:55] <makuseru> i got it now
[08:04] <v0taguz> sudoman: o.O?
[08:07] <Chani> is there a list of apt mirroirs somewhere? I want to switch to one that's a bit closer
[08:08] <Chani> aha
[08:09] <intelikey> Chani maybe on the site ?   ubuntu.com  ?
[08:10] <intelikey> Chani what is "closer" ?
[08:11] <Chani> intelikey: I found it on the ubuntu wiki
[08:11] <Chani> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[08:11] <intelikey> k
[08:14] <modjo__> hello
[08:14] <modjo__> sme again
[08:14] <modjo> asd
[08:14] <modjo> hello
[08:14] <modjo> i got a question
[08:15] <lazaruslupine> hey anyone know howto get Bluefish working w/ FTP in kubuntu? I've had it working before.
[08:15] <lazaruslupine> in other WM's
[08:16] <lazaruslupine> does gnome-volume-manager need to be running?
[08:17] <jack-> lazaruslupine: you're likely to need the whole gnome-vfs stuff as well
[08:17] <jack-> lazaruslupine: but i'd recommend to switch and get used to quanta instead
[08:17] <jack-> its as nice as bluefish, and a true kde thing
[08:18] <secret> Hey guys, i have 256kbs cable internet, but i am downloading a torrent at 45kbs? can someone help me setup ktorrent?
[08:18] <jack-> you cant expect maxspeed from torrents
[08:18] <jack-> seems like nobody told you the basics
[08:18] <secret> ok so 45kbs is normal?
[08:18] <jack-> yeah, actually pretty good
[08:18] <secret> thanks for your help
[08:18] <jack-> np
[08:25] <Chani> um.
[08:25] <Chani> attempting dist-upgrade, and..
[08:25] <Chani> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: apt-index-watcher libgd2-noxpm libvolumeid0 xserver-xorg-driver-all
[08:25] <Chani> is it a bad thing that it wants to remove that?
[08:26] <Chani> hmm, looks klike it could be ok
[08:26] <c1|freaky> uwe@loopy2:~$ apt-cache search apt-index
[08:26] <c1|freaky> uwe@loopy2:~$
[08:26] <c1|freaky> the 2 libs will probably be upgraded
[08:27] <intelikey> Chani i don't see anything that it would hurt
[08:27] <Chani> yeah
[08:28] <Chani> 1219 packages upgraded, 132 newly installed, 4 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:28] <Chani> ohboy
[08:29] <Chani> where are .debs downloaded to? I got a bunch via sneakernet so that I don't have to spend forever downloading
[08:30] <Jucato>  /var/cache/apt/archive/
[08:30] <Chani> somewhre in /var iirc...
[08:30] <Chani> ah
[08:30] <jack-> no clue about apt? ;)
[08:30] <Chani> thanks
[08:30] <jack-> its ../archives btw
[08:30] <intelikey>  /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:30] <jack-> but he's right
[08:30] <Chani> jack-: apt has to download things.
[08:30] <Jucato> forgot an 's'...
[08:31] <intelikey> sorry Jucato i'm lagging just a bit
[08:32] <Jucato> I'm the one who forgot the 's'
[08:33] <Chani> ohboy
[08:33] <Chani> sudo: unable to execute /bin/cp: Argument list too long
[08:33] <Chani> time to learn abotu xargs
[08:36] <intelikey> yeah i hate those list limits...   mv and cp do that a lot for me.
[08:38] <jack-> xargs owns
[08:38] <jack-> you can even tell it how many chars/args on one line
[08:38] <jack-> once you get used to it, you dont run into insufficient limits anymore at all
[08:41] <intelikey> jack- hmmm yeah.  while and for loops work too
[08:41] <jack-> sure :)
[08:42] <jack-> but xargs is one of the tools i love most
[08:42] <jack-> hehe
[08:42] <jack-> np to smack a lot of sophisticated jobs into a pretty short bash line
[08:42] <intelikey> seems to be in every other line i write.
[08:42] <jack-> if you know how to use cut and xargs :)
[08:42] <jack-> cut rules
[08:44] <intelikey> dpkg -l | grep '^ii' | cut -d' ' -f3 > installed
[08:45] <jack-> yup, simple task
[08:46] <sparr> does kubuntu include a single-threaded gui ftp client?
[08:46] <Jucato> Konqueror?
[08:46] <Chani> single-threaded?
[08:46] <Jucato> !ftp
[08:46] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[08:47] <jack-> dpkg -L $@ |xargs file |fgrep 'Mach-O' |cut -f1 -d: |xargs otool -L 2> /dev/null |egrep -v ':$' |sort -u |sed  -e 's,[[:space:] ] +,,' \
[08:47] <jack-> -e 's, .*,,'|xargs dpkg -S 2>/dev/null|cut -f1 -d:|sort -u|fgrep -vx "`tr ' ' '\n' <<<$*`"|xargs|sed -e 's; ;, ;g'
[08:47] <jack-> intelikey: check this
[08:47] <sparr> Jucato: sadly, no
[08:47] <jack-> one of my most useful ones, and its just one line :)
[08:47] <sparr> Chani: does everything in one ftp connection, instead of opening multiple
[08:48] <jack-> kbear ist there too
[08:48] <jack-> and iglooftp
[08:48] <jack-> so many
[08:48] <Jucato> I think kbear has been dropped
[08:48] <sparr> wouldnt be so bad if konqueror didnt abort a long operation as soon as the server denied an extra connection
[08:49] <jack-> sparr: want my 2 cents concerning "best ftp client ever"?
[08:50] <jack-> use lftp inside konsole
[08:50] <sparr> meh, ill just use ftp if i want command line
[08:50] <jack-> or if you want fxp through a gui, use kasablanca
[08:50] <jack-> lftp rocks :)
[08:50] <jack-> really
[08:50] <jack-> best client ever done, imo
[08:54] <Chani> urgh. with all these disconnects it'll take forever for apt to get everything
[08:57] <baudthief> I keep getting this when doing an apt-get update
[08:57] <baudthief> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[08:57] <baudthief> any ideas?
[09:09] <Chani> baudthief: try downloading and unzipping it yourself, see what happens
[09:10] <baudthief> Chani: appears to work, i've switched back to the australia mirror and it seems to work now
[09:24] <dem4b> Hi, could someone recomend a program for trimming an audio file?
[09:24] <Chani> I use sox, but it's sure as hell not userfriendly
[09:26] <dem4b> Chani: are you aware of any alternatives?
[09:26] <MilhousePunkRock> dem4b: What about audacity?
[09:26] <dem4b> MilhousePunkRock: I'll try that one
[09:42] <KomiaPoika> hi
[09:42] <KomiaPoika> how can i restart X, forcing a reread of xorg.conf, without rebooting?
[09:43] <MaTiAz> KomiaPoika: Ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:43] <Jucato> KomiaPoika: log out first, then what MaTiAz said
[09:46] <KomiaPoika> okay, but why can't kubuntu 7.04 display on my laptop at 1280x800, like kubuntu 6.04 could? i just copied over my old xorg.conf. and after restarting, i don't get the normal 1280x800 display...
[09:46] <KomiaPoika> 6.06*
[09:47] <SilentDis> !mp3
[09:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:15] <KomiaPoika> ok i found: 915resolution
[10:18] <jussi01au> could someone give me the command to empty the trash from the command line?
[10:19] <secret> anyone here too help?
[10:19] <intelikey> maybe
[10:19] <secret> would you know how I can get rid of the  toolbar on my firefox browser, it's a search toolbar thing
[10:19] <secret> ?
[10:19] <secret> I have the address bar, then next too it is a tool bar
[10:20] <secret> you know?
[10:20] <intelikey> no.    look in the pull down menu   if it's not there   i have no clue.
[10:20] <secret> search bar i mean
[10:20] <intelikey> i don't use ff    don't like it.
[10:21] <secret> what do you use?
[10:21] <intelikey> ff is however the default on ubuntu  so   you can ask in #ubuntu  if you want.
[10:21] <secret> curious :D...
[10:21] <intelikey> elinks
[10:21] <secret> kubuntu
[10:21] <secret> ok thanks
[10:21] <intelikey> np.
[10:21] <pag> jussi01au, something like rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/  maybe?
[10:22] <intelikey> sudo that and it might work
[10:22] <jussi01au> pag: thanks
[10:33] <kraut> moin
[10:34] <intelikey> kraut
[10:35] <kraut> intelikey
[10:36] <zerocool> HI
[10:36] <intelikey> zerocool
[10:37] <zerocool> Y?
[10:39] <intelikey> anybody like bash scripts ?
[10:40] <KomiaPoika> i  do
[10:40] <KomiaPoika> scripts rock my world
[10:40] <Jucato> I guess people in #bash (or is it ##bash ?)love those
[10:40] <intelikey> #bash
[10:41] <KomiaPoika> yes
[10:41] <KomiaPoika> boy these guys are good
[10:41] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37146   tell me what's wrong with that one
[10:41] <KomiaPoika> if you ask nicely they help you out writing scripts worth two hours a consultant would charge
[10:43] <intelikey> hehe yeah i started to try to learn perl,  went to  #perl and ask one simple Q  and got the  "pay us and we'll help, else get lost" spill     so i stuck with bash
[10:44] <eagles0513875> how do i setup a mysql server
[10:44] <intelikey> same kind of floks seem to hang in #debian too
[10:44] <kumamoto> anyone use kate for developing apps
[10:44] <intelikey> kumamoto i would think that most would use  kdevelop  or vim    seems to be the norm.
[10:45] <intelikey> eagles0513875 i can point you at the infonode the bot has but that's all i can do there
[10:45] <Jucato> although you'd be surprise at how many kde devs actually just use kate | emacs | vim :)
[10:45] <Jucato> !lamp
[10:45] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:46] <ardchoille> kate rocks!
[10:46] <ardchoille> I use it for everything
[10:46] <intelikey> Jucato yes   vim   very common
[10:46] <Jucato> I use kate for almost everything except what I don't use a text editor for :)
[10:46] <kumamoto> I was just wondering if kate has the capabilities of editing a file while still on a remote server using say 'Open Url' sort of thing
[10:47] <Jucato> kumamoto: um.. yes... using sftp:/ fish:/, etc
[10:47] <Jucato> it's possible, not through the app, but through KDE"s kioslaves
[10:47] <ardchoille> kumamoto: I use kate to edit files which are on my web hosts server, so I know it can do remote file editing via drag & drop.
[10:47] <ewa> hello
[10:48] <intelikey> that would be using  konqueror not kate    right ?
[10:48] <Jucato> drag from konqi to kate? *shrugs*
[10:48] <ardchoille> Ah, yes, intelikey.. I ftp to the location and then d&d files to kate
[10:48] <kumamoto> don't know I haven't seen any sftp or fish protocol on my kate maybe I will have to install some modules for that right?
[10:49] <Jucato> intelikey: yep, drag and drop :)
[10:49] <Jucato> kumamoto: no
[10:49] <Jucato> those protocols are available for all KDE apps
[10:49] <Jucato> you just type it in the location bar of the File dialog
[10:49] <ardchoille> kumamoto: just type the ftp address into konqueror file manager, then drag & drop the files into kate
[10:50] <Jucato> kumamoto: or you can do ardchoille's way, which is easier
[10:50] <ardchoille> I found that out by accident, actually.
[10:51] <eagles0513875> that will work inteliey
[10:51] <eagles0513875> !mysql
[10:51] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:51] <kumamoto> so going drag and drop both ways before and after editing
[10:51] <Jucato> it does sound logical though... can't say why I haven't thought about it...
[10:52] <Jucato> kumamoto: er no...
[10:52] <ardchoille> kumamoto: Actually, you can just save the file in kate and it's taken care of.
[10:52] <kumamoto> ok I guess I will play around with it some more and see if I can it to work the way I want it to work.
[10:52] <Jucato> kumamoto: kioslaves, particularly sftp:/, ftp:/, fish:/ ,etc. allow you to access remote files as if they were local files.
[10:52] <ardchoille> drag the file into kate, edit as needed, click File->Save ( in kate) and th file is saved on the remote server.
[10:53] <intelikey> do you have to d&d or can you just click edit ?
[10:54] <kumamoto> I know I have kioslaves installed but I will double check
[10:54] <Jucato> well, depends on the file. if it's an .html file, it doesn't open in kate :)
[10:54] <kumamoto> what no html in kate not good
[10:54] <intelikey> can if you right click and select
[10:54] <Jucato> kumamoto: I was replying to intelikey. not to you
[10:54] <eagles0513875> !kioslaves
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kioslaves - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <ardchoille> intelikey: You can click edit too, yes
[10:55] <Jucato> http://osdir.com/Article2159.phtml <--- short article about kioslaves
[10:56] <intelikey> ardchoille KOLD !  :)
[10:56] <kumamoto> sorry Jucato didn't mean to butt in
[10:56] <intelikey> cold would be a little cooler than cool wouldn't  ?
[10:56] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, thanks for that url
[10:56] <ardchoille> intelikey: lol, sure :)
[10:56] <Jucato> it's an old one though
[10:57] <Jucato> other kioslaves to look into would be man:/, info:/, help:/ and apt:/ (only on Kubuntu) and sysinfo:/ (formerly only on suse)
[10:57] <mattsqz> dear god, ubuntu has come a long way since version 5 ;)
[10:57] <Jucato> with a 6-month release schedule? I'd be surprised if it didn't :)
[10:58] <intelikey> would you believe it's possable to use  for Q in /dir/* ;do sleep 3 ;pastebin.script $Q ;done   the server doesn't se it as spam....   ?
[10:59] <ardchoille> Jucato: Actually, I have installed a few service menus for konqueror, so I have some cool options in the "Actions" context menu and I have edited the file associations to add kate to the list of apps to open .html files. So, opening html files in kate from a remote server is easy.
[11:00] <Jucato> ardchoille: I was saying that simple left-click on an .html file wouldn't open it in kate, at least not by default
[11:00] <ardchoille> If anyone is interested in more service menu options:  http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=287
[11:00] <Jucato> of course you can always mod, but that's not the default anyway
[11:01] <ardchoille> Jucato: Af, true
[11:01] <ardchoille> *Ah
[11:01] <intelikey> Jucato right.  default action would be view in current window
[11:01] <mike_> Greets, everyone...
[11:02] <Jucato> :)
[11:03] <MartyMcFly> is it possible to have gizmo or skype open while listening to music?
[11:03] <mike_> Is there anything in my home folder that could possibly be hardware-dependent? I'm thinking of copying it from one machine to another, just wondering if this could cause any problems.
[11:03] <MartyMcFly> I keep getting errors about audio devices not being available when I open gizmo or skype while listening to music
[11:03] <Jucato> current window/tab *and* as a web page (using khtml), not an embedded katepart
[11:03] <intelikey> mike_ no but it's all $UID dependant.
[11:05] <intelikey> mike_ that is "if the UID is not the same on both systems you won't own it. if permissions are preserved....
[11:06] <intelikey> thus you'll need to 'own your home' on that system"
[11:08] <mike_> Ok... Am I best off copying over the network, as I presume copying from a CD wouldn't preserve read/write permissions?
[11:10] <intelikey> mike depends on how you do that.  and as to network -vs- cd   depends on which you prefer.     you mentioned "a CD" so i'll assume it would fit there.   tar -czf backup-home.gtz ~/    <<< would preserve all permissions whether you use network or cd to move it.
[11:13] <intelikey> Jucato who's the windy'ist now days ?    i've blabbered a lot in here     did i win ?
[11:13] <KomiaPoika> what package do i need to install to let firefox access web video streams?
[11:14] <Jucato> intelikey: wasn't really counting :)
[11:14] <intelikey> Jucato talking about that page you pointed at the other day with the stats...
[11:15] <mike_> intelikey: Thanks a LOT! That command will save me from a ton of grief in the future. Never thought of doing that, as obvious as it should've been.
[11:16] <intelikey> mike_ heh  yeah  it's the "should be obvious" ones that we always miss...    "if it was a snake it would bite you"  kind of thing....
[11:18] <Jucato> intelikey: someone just showed me that page that day and completely forgot about it afterwards
[11:18] <intelikey> :)
[11:18] <intelikey> Jucato and you show'd me and i did the same.
[11:20] <intelikey> math script    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37247    just a front end for bc really.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37247   example:   math '(12^3 + 88) / 2'
[11:20] <intelikey> (12^3 + 88) / 2 = 908
[11:22] <intelikey> well i'm gone fellas     have a great big one today and a better one tomarrow.      and peace be with ya.
[11:25] <mike_> KomiaPoika: I personally use "flashplugin-nonfree" from Trevino's repository, although I'm sure there are other, more "official" ways to get it.
[11:26] <mike_> KomiaPoika: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/index.html
[11:27] <faidillinger> re
[11:28] <mike_> KomiaPoika: Oh, streaming video. Err, umm... You would actually want "mozilla-mplayer", which I believe is also in Trevino's repository.
[11:38] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer
[11:38] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31+main-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 477 kB, installed size 1636 kB
[11:38] <Jucato> is in our own repositories
[11:41] <KomiaPoika> mike_: yes, that fixed it, thanks
[11:47] <mike_> No problem
[11:48] <mike_> Sorry for the mix-up, Jucato. Been so long since I was only using the official reposositories. :-)
[11:49] <mikkael> how do i remove a package with all its dependencies ? i installed ubuntustudio-desktop, and now i want to remove it and everything that got installed by this meta
[11:51] <ardchoille> mikkael: sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove package
[11:52] <mikkael> i did remove ubuntustudio-desktop, but if i do a apt-get auroremove it does remove npthing more :/
[11:58] <KomiaPoika> how can i install vmware server
[11:59] <ardchoille> !vmware
[11:59] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:02] <KomiaPoika> workstation6 is not free :(
[12:11] <nahema> hi enybudy know how to install a usb modem huawei smartax mt882?
[12:39] <leotr> hi all! i installed oooqs package but it hangs my computer and there are many soffice.bin processes run...  how can i preload openoffice to make it launching faster?
[12:41] <ilijavk> !help adept add CD-Rom as repositori
[12:41] <ilijavk> !help adept
[12:42] <ilijavk> !help adept
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ilijavk> how to add cd-rom as to repositori list
[12:43] <ilijavk> how to add cd-rom as to repositori list adept-menage repository ??
[12:43] <ilijavk> Help please
[12:45] <ilijavk> Kubuntu 6.06 how to add cd-rom to repository list: adept->menage_repository ??
[12:46] <sivaji> ilijavk try #ubuntu
[12:47] <sivaji> !shockwave
[12:47] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[12:48] <ilijavk> sivaji thanks
[12:48] <sivaji> i cant play any online games because most of the games are shockwave based ple help me
[12:48] <Jucato> ilijavk: try "sudo apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom" or /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1, wherever the CD is mounted
[12:49] <sivaji> i cant install shockwave ple help me
[12:49] <Jucato> sivaji: try to install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[12:50] <sivaji> Jucato ok
[12:51] <miguel_> Hi
[12:51] <sivaji> Jucato flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[12:51] <Jucato> sivaji: ah ok... no idea anymore. try the link that the bot gave
[12:52] <miguel_> Alquien puede ayudarme?
 ilijavk: try "sudo apt-cdrom add /media/cdrom" THANKS it works
[12:52] <miguel_> Tengo un problema con virtual box no puedo restarurar la ventana despues de hacer un fullscreen
[12:52] <^RiaN^> ilijavk: how to format a flash disk
[12:54] <miguel_> anyone from spain?
[12:54] <Jucato> !es | miguel_
[12:54] <ubotu> miguel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:54] <^RiaN^> !format
[12:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:54] <miguel_> ok, thanks
[12:54] <ubuntu__> Hello can anybody hear me?
[12:55] <sivaji> ubuntu__ ya
[12:55] <Chani> why can't apt do merging of config files like gentoo's etc-update? anyone know hte name of the tool that does such merging?
[12:56] <ubuntu__> um, I'm using live cd
[12:56] <Jucato> Chani: afaik, apt automatically overwrites system config files. although it doesn't touch user config files
[12:56] <^RiaN^> anybody here know how to format a removable drive
[12:57] <Chani> Jucato: no, not if you've modified them.
[12:57] <ubuntu__> And I i have the 32bit cd, it works fine, but I think my computer is 64-bit, and when i run 64-bit it doesn't display any graphics. Is there a way to be sure wheter computer is 32 or 64 bit?
[12:57] <Chani> Jucato: I've got a modified config file, I want some stuff from my version and some from the new version and I see no good reason why I should have to save a copy of my old one and combine them manually.
[12:57] <sivaji>  ubuntu__     uanme  -p
[12:58] <ubuntu__> should i write "uanme -p" in terminal?
[12:58] <Jucato> Chani: not an expert on apt, I'm afraid. you could try poking in #debian if you're brave enough :)
[12:58] <sivaji> ubuntu__ yes
[12:58] <ubuntu__> how do i start terminal in kubuntu (i only used ubuntu :p)
[12:59] <sivaji>  alt+f2  then type konsole
[12:59] <ubuntu__> found it :)
[12:59] <Chani> Jucato: I'd rather try #gentoo first :)
[12:59] <ubuntu__> uanme command not found :?
[12:59] <Chani> uname
[12:59] <Jucato> lol
[12:59] <Chani> typo
[12:59] <Jucato> good luck :)
[01:00] <ubuntu__> it just says "unknown" ...
[01:00] <sivaji> ubuntu__ sorry
[01:00] <ubuntu__> should i use "sudo" first?
[01:01] <sivaji>    ubuntu__  leave it i too got same output for that commnad  no
[01:02] <ubuntu__> ok, but is my system 32bit if 32bit Live cd works fine?
[01:02] <ubuntu__> since there is a bumpersticker on my computer saying "AMD 64 LIVE!"
[01:02] <sivaji> ubuntu__ 64bit pc can support both 32bit and 64bit kubuntu
[01:03] <ubuntu__> sivaji - oh....
[01:03] <pepe__> anyone can give me an advice?
[01:03] <pepe__> how to improve battery management!
[01:04] <sivaji> ubuntu__ installing 32bit os in 64bit computer provides better performance for multimedia
[01:04] <ubuntu__> interestin... what is the downside?
[01:05] <ubuntu__> Can QTparted create NTFS drives, or can GParted? or has evil MS copyrighted does?
[01:05] <Chani> #gentoo wins
[01:06] <Chani> linux can barely read NTFS. the drivers for kinda-sorta writing bits of things are not considered stable
[01:06] <Chani> ubuntu__: basically, don't use NTFS. it must be nasty if people still ahven't figured out how to read it
[01:06] <Chani> er. s/read/write
[01:07] <ubuntu__> Chanie - ntfs write and read is stable, check ntfs-3g
[01:07] <sivaji> Chani ya u can read and write
[01:07] <Chani> really?
[01:08] <ubuntu__> yes
[01:08] <Chani> guess I haven't paid attention for a few years
[01:08] <ubuntu__> !ntfs-3g
[01:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:08] <Chani> so if it's stable, why's it not being used by default?
[01:08] <Chani> pepe__: are you using an intel processor?
[01:09] <ubuntu__> hmmm... I'm not sure if it is legal for the Open source community to create them, since maybe M$ have copyrighted them or something (just guess)
[01:09] <faidillinger> ntfs sucks
[01:09] <ubuntu__> yea, that too
[01:09] <faidillinger> ;)
[01:09] <Chani> ubuntu__: patents
[01:11] <sivaji> is there any way to access ext2 partition in windows
[01:11] <faidillinger> yes
[01:12] <sivaji> faidillinger how?
[01:12] <sercik_> hi smb4k has inseterd eroor in my sudoers file, and now i can't use sudo anymore! i'm not good in sudoers syntax someone can send me a sudoers file?
[01:12] <faidillinger> by installing the ext2 driver
[01:12] <ubuntu__> what about ext3?
[01:12] <Jucato> yes
[01:12] <ubuntu__> how?
[01:12] <faidillinger> sivaji: visit www.fs-driver.org/
[01:13] <sercik_> jucato Hi!
[01:13] <Jucato> hi!
[01:13] <sercik_> can you send me your soduers?
[01:13] <faidillinger> ubuntu_ : i think you can even mount an ext3 partition in windows, since it should be readable as an ext2
[01:13] <sercik_> sudoers
[01:14] <sercik_> Jucato: or i can send mine and you can correct errors?
[01:14] <poseidon> hello
[01:15] <elbing> with jackd in realtime mode, I need lowlatency kernel or there is another way?
[01:15] <Jucato> sercik_: sudoers file? hold on
[01:15] <sercik_> i can't read it!
[01:15] <sercik_> yes please!
[01:15] <Jucato> sercik_: what do you mean?
[01:15] <faidillinger> u need to be root sercik_ to read it
[01:15] <sercik_> smb4k have damadeg my sudoers file
[01:15] <sercik_> and now i can't anymore become root
[01:16] <sercik_> because of a syntax error
[01:16] <sercik_> but i'm not good with syntax :)
[01:16] <pepe__> Chani: yep, using centrino one!
[01:16] <faidillinger> sercik, you probably cant sudo anymore, or even su, but i doubt you cannot login as root anymore.
[01:16] <ubuntu__> so, can vista use that read ext3 drivers 2?
[01:16] <Jucato> sercik_: not even through booting to Recovery Mode in GRUB?
[01:17] <sercik_> if someone can send me sudoers file.. i start with failsafe and overwrite
[01:17] <sivaji>  how to format a pen drive in kubuntu
[01:17] <Chani> pepe__: google for a program called powertop
[01:17] <pepe__> thx!
[01:17] <ubuntu__> sivaji - open drive? a mounted drive? unmount it first :p
[01:17] <elbing> ubuntu_: you can try "XP compatibility mode"
[01:18] <Jucato> sercik_: http://rafb.net/p/njfGXU83.html
[01:18] <sercik_> jucato i need to correct errors in sudoers file!
[01:18] <sercik_> ah ok!
[01:18] <Chani> sivaji: what exactly do you mean by format?
[01:18] <elbing> but life is too complicated with vista
[01:19] <sercik_> thank you now i will restart and correct error! thank you jucato!
[01:19] <Jucato> sercik_: good luck
[01:19] <Jucato> sercik_: remember to use visudo to edit /etc/sudoers
[01:20] <sivaji> Chani formatting means erasing the files and folder ,defining partition
[01:20] <Jucato> eek too late
[01:23] <Chani> sivaji: for editing partitions I use cfdisk. for creating the filesystems on new partitions, it depends on what type you want (fat, ext3, etc)
[01:24] <tahsin> can anyone teach me how to get beryl ?
[01:24] <Chani> sivaji: for a usb disk, you probably want fat32.. I can't remember the name of the tool for formatting that. probably starts with mk and ends with fs
[01:24] <makuseru> whats the command to run an executable in the terminal?
[01:24] <Jucato> !beryl | tahsin
[01:24] <ubotu> tahsin: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:24] <Jucato> makuseru: what kind of executable?
[01:24] <makuseru> it just says executable
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> makuseru- usually by just typing the name
[01:25] <Jucato> (well, that depends on where the executable is, what kind it is, etc)
[01:25] <Dragnslcr> If you're in the same directory, you probably need to use ./name
[01:25] <makuseru> its not an installed program though, its somthing i just downloaded
[01:26] <Dragnslcr> That doesn't change how you run executables
[01:26] <sercik> solced!!
[01:26] <Jucato> usually, as Dragnslcr said, you use ./executable_name
[01:26] <sercik> solved! thanks!
[01:26] <Jucato> sercik: kool
[01:26] <sercik> was simple
[01:27] <sercik> it is possible to put my backgrounds on kdm login?
[01:27] <sercik> kdm login uses the original backgrounf of kubuntu!
[01:28] <sercik> where are located? kdm themes??
[01:28] <sercik> i can create myself
[01:29] <makuseru> sercik: what is your native language?
[01:29] <sivaji> what is the command to list all partition
[01:29] <sercik> italian!
[01:29] <sercik> my english is very bad??
[01:30] <elbing> not really, mine is worse :p
[01:30] <sercik> makuseru: ??
[01:30] <elbing> (spain)
[01:30] <makuseru> sercik: no its not bad, i was just curious
[01:31] <sercik> and yours?
[01:31] <makuseru> america
[01:31] <makuseru> i could just tell english wasnt your native language
[01:32] <sercik> i have found the folder myself!
[01:32] <makuseru> !zlib
[01:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zlib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <sercik> hey!
[01:33] <sivaji> sercik press alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[01:33] <sercik> no no i want to create myself
[01:33] <sercik> because i want to put my wallpapers
[01:33] <makuseru> google how to make KDM themes
[01:45] <Chani> I've got an annoying minor problem with my dist-upgrade
[01:45] <Chani>   linux-386: Depends: linux-image-386 (= 2.6.20.15.14) but 2.6.20.16.28.1 is installed.
[01:46] <Chani> also,  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.20-15-386; however: Package linux-image-2.6.20-15-386 is not configured yet.
[01:46] <Chani> but that might be because I messed up grub
[01:47] <Chani> I don't want kubuntu handing grub stuff anyways
[01:47] <JuJuBee> anybody know which file stores the mac address of network adapters ?
[01:48] <ubuntu__> if i run live cd, can i get fdisk workinng on Kubuntu?
[01:48] <JuJuBee> After dd, I need to fix .
[01:48] <Chani> JuJuBee: no, I usualy read them from ifconfig
[01:48] <ubuntu__> "Adept Manager" is synaptic but for Kubuntu right?
[01:48] <Chani> ubuntu__: yeah
[01:49] <JuJuBee> my adapters are incorrect, ra2 & ra3 instead of ra0 and ra1...
[01:49] <Chani> um, I dunno if the livecd includes fdisk
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> Chani: install linux-resicted-modules -2.6.20.16
[01:49] <JuJuBee> I just did a dd and I think the mac address is stored in a file somewhere..
[01:49] <KomiaPoika> is the howto at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120091 applicable to 7.04?
[01:49] <Chani> I've always used a knoppix livecd for partitioning
[01:49] <JuJuBee> I seem to recall an issue like this last year, but cant rememver how I fixed it.
[01:49] <Chani> nosrednaekim: iirc that's one of the ones that fails because of similar errors
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Chani: thats odd...
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> is everything working correctly?
[01:51] <sivaji> !drm
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <sivaji> JuJuBee  u r system is alright ?
[01:52] <JuJuBee> Reinstalled everything.  Now I am cloning the HD for the other 6 workstations...
[01:52] <Chani> nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.ca/547441
[01:53] <Chani> I wouldn't know if it's working, I haven't copied anything into the real boot partition yet
[01:53] <JuJuBee> I need to change the wireless adapters somehow.... They are set wrong (due to cloning I think.)  I think the MAC address is stored in a file somewhere.
[01:53] <Chani> kubuntu gets its own little sandbox because I don't like the way it does grub
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> wait... are you in chroot?
[01:54] <Chani> no
[01:54] <Chani> but my proper /boot is unmounted
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> its because It can't see your grub.
[01:55] <sc0tch> Is it me or is the wireless configuration and the default network managers in Kubuntu 7.04 still totally lacking. No WPA as far as I can tell. (tried both the installed knetwork manager and wireless assistant).
[01:55] <Chani> yes. I don't want kubuntu touching my MBR
[01:55] <Chani> but I don't know of a nice way of telling it to leave it alone
[01:56] <Chani> so I just kinda broke it :)
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> sc0tch: knetwork manager can  do WPA
[01:58] <Chani> maybe if I replaced the grub command with something that doesn't do anything
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Chani: well.. it ain't borke..
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Chani: lol.. now that  might mess things up..
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> why don't you like kubuntu's grub? what does it do different?
[01:59] <Chani> it changed a ton of things when I upgraded to edgy
[01:59] <Chani> put in some UUID stuff that broke hibernation
[01:59] <Chani> I think there was something else, but I've forgotten now
[02:00] <Chani> basically I want gentoo to be in charge of grub. I trust it more
[02:00] <sc0tch> nosrednaekim: hmm, could it be adpatoer/driver issue, have knetwork running with dlinkG122 USB g adaptor, only lists WEP as encryption option, (also signal stregnth is only one bar being 5 feet for AP.) (Wireless assistant at least shows 5 starts for strength, and Windows works normally with excellent signal strength)
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> sc0tch: ah...are you using ndiswrapper
[02:02] <Chani> heh. as to the unmet dependencies, I ran it a few more times. got everything but the kernel sorted out, then it wanted to downgrade one thing, then it decided to remove the other and re-upgrade
[02:02] <ubuntu__> can someone help me install kubuntu? im on live cd
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Chani: gotcha..... umm... lets see... everytime you mess with the grub, chroot into gentoo and redo the grub install there.
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: sure
[02:03] <ubuntu__> ok, the thing is, im in partition managin part, i made a root disk, how do i create a switch-disk?
[02:03] <Chani> haha
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: do you have windows on this computer?
[02:03] <Chani> nosrednaekim: that's be silly.
[02:04] <ubuntu__> I have windows vista in this computer too
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Chani: I know...
[02:04] <Chani> nosrednaekim: I'm going to hack it so it doesn't run hte update-grub script instead] 
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: a switch disk?
[02:05] <ubuntu__> I dont know english name :p, its the one that they recommend to be at lest 256 MB
[02:05] <Chani> yay! it's blissfully ignorant :)
[02:06] <ubuntu__> so, which location should that disk be?
[02:07] <ubuntu__> i siad that main drive is "/", but how do i do the other one?
[02:07] <sc0tch> nosrednaekim: does not appear to be, dmesg reports using a (generic) rt25 usb driver. I'm going to compile and install the serialmonkey drivers I use on another distro and try those.
[02:07] <DexterF> hi
[02:08] <DexterF> can anyone think of a reason why ~/.bash_aliases isn't parsed here in konsole?
[02:11] <sc0tch> DexterF, it's commented out in .bashrc
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu
[02:11] <ubuntu__> yes?
[02:11] <JuJuBee> I  need to report a bug with NIS in kubuntu, where/how do I do that?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: ah yeah... swap.
[02:11] <ubuntu__> oh right
[02:11] <ubuntu__> where should i say it lies?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> make a new partition at the end of your disk.
[02:12] <ubuntu__> why the end?
[02:13] <ubuntu__> ok ive done apartition
[02:13] <ubuntu__>  what now?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> now assign it to swap.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: it really can be anywhere
[02:14] <ubuntu__> how do i asign to swap?
[02:14] <ubuntu__> is it "/tmp"
[02:14] <ubuntu__> ?
[02:14] <yaman> hi guys any one knows how can i increase the wifi range by changing options ?
[02:15] <Hirvinen> !swap
[02:15] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:15] <White_Lightning> !wifi
[02:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:15] <White_Lightning> check there yaman
[02:16] <yaman> White_Lightning: thanx
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: no.... its called "swap" it doesn't have a partiton name
[02:16] <gianluca> ciao a tutti
[02:17] <ubuntu__> it says destination has to start with "/"
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu__: hmmmm... when you made the new partition... it said what to format the partiton as. make it swap.
[02:18] <Chani> hmm. I guess it's time for me to reboot and see what breaks
[02:18] <ubuntu__> oh.....
[02:18] <ubuntu__> thanks!
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> Chani: lol
[02:20] <laz_> hellooooooooooooo
[02:20] <nosrednaekim> laz_: helo
[02:22] <Jucato> so many o's....
[02:23] <lu> por ahi anda todoesverso?
[02:23] <_4strO> !es | lu
[02:23] <ubotu> lu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:23] <lu> thaks...
[02:23] <_4strO> ;)
[02:23] <lu> sorry... thanks
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: yeah.. and then he just disappears
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> >_>
[02:24] <Jucato> :)
[02:25] <lu> anydoby knows the channel of Argentine?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[02:25] <lu> I seeking todoesverso? How I find him?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> lu: is that a special language?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> Morn'
[02:26] <lu> hahahah, I'm not good in English?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> lu: do you have a registered mickname?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> *nickname
[02:26] <lu> thanks!
[02:28] <lu> *nickname todoesverso
[02:28] <lu> ups!
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> lu: are you registered?
[02:29] <lu> mmmhhh
[02:30] <lu> i think... i'm a super newbie... ja
[02:30] <ubuntu__> its installed now :), thanks all who did help me, and thanks all other in (K)Ubuntu community :)
[02:30] <lu> what must i do?
[02:32] <lu> i'm just installed kubuntu studio... my fist experience in linux
[02:32] <lu> is that ok?
[02:32] <lu> what follows?
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> lu: restart? into linux..
[02:34] <lu> restart? you mean shut down and login in linux?
[02:37] <jtmoney> anyone know why i'm getting this bug? look at the text for the openoffice shortcut -- http://jtmoney.biatches.org/bug.jpg
[02:38] <BluesKaj> oilchange ..bbl
[02:39] <backpro> hhelo guys !!
[02:39] <backpro> hello
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> backpro: hi
[02:39] <backpro> i have problem with apache server/ :S
[02:39] <backpro> when i go to konsole
[02:40] <backpro> and type apachectl status
[02:40] <backpro> i find
[02:40] <backpro>                                    Not Found
[02:40] <backpro>    The requested URL /server-status was not found on this server.
[02:41] <backpro> what to do plz !!
[02:41] <jtmoney> no one? :(
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> backpro: go to #apache
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> jtmoney: the shadow?
[02:42] <korobase> Any english studying software in LINUX?
[02:42] <jtmoney> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:43] <arash> guys, I'm formerly known as "ubuntu__" I've installed now
[02:43] <sivaji> korobase apt-cache search education
[02:43] <arash> Why can't I increase my screen to 1920*1200, I know that Vista cna do it :-/
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> you just need to reconfigure xorg
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> arash: ok cool... you in your actual linux install?
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> arash: you need the proprietary drivers.
[02:44] <jtmoney> nosrednaekim: any idea what causes that shadow thing?
[02:45] <arash> I can't do it in "systemoptions"
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> and saying "vista can do it" is like saying "my cousin with downs syndrome can do it"  it may be true, but it certainly isn't elegant.
[02:45] <jtmoney> Daisuke_Ido: hah
[02:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm going back to bed now :)
[02:45] <jtmoney> vista is absolute garbage... any to think i paid to upgrade my free professional version to ultimate
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> arash: do you have an nvidia card or an ATI one?
[02:48] <arash> I dont know :(
[02:48] <arash> Can I find out somehow?
[02:48] <glauco1> hi
[02:48] <sercik> would be good to execute a command as root without using the konsole
[02:48] <glauco1> I need some help
[02:48] <glauco1> I ave deleted some files on my kubuntu
[02:48] <sercik> for example right: mouse button --> execuste as root
[02:48] <sercik> for example right: mouse button --> execute as root
[02:48] <glauco1> but no free space it's make?
[02:48] <gentoofan23> arash: Do "sudo lspci" and look for nvidia/ati
[02:49] <glauco1> what i must do?
[02:49] <jtmoney> or, lspci | grep nvidia
[02:49] <jtmoney> glauco1: which files?
[02:49] <glauco1> a tar
[02:49] <arash> almost every line says "nvidia"
[02:50] <jtmoney> so there you go
[02:50] <jtmoney> you're lucky, btw
[02:50] <gentoofan23> Well, look for "Graphics" and if it says "nvidia" on that line you are ok.
[02:50] <jtmoney> i have ati and it's pretty crappy
[02:50] <jtmoney> the driver support that is
[02:50] <gentoofan23> jtmoney: He might have an ATI and anvidia motherboard
[02:50] <Breetai> Kde broke, you have to hold a key down for a LONG time to get a keypress, the repeat rate seems fine after that. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:50] <glauco1> ?
[02:51] <arash> I dont find graphics line
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> arash: what is your native language?
[02:52] <arash> Swedish on my ubuntu, though i learned Persian first
[02:52] <glauco1> boy i have delete a tar file with "canc"
[02:53] <glauco1> but the space on hard disk is the same
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> arash: if you are more comfortable with either of those languages... you might want to go to their channels.
[02:53] <glauco1> the trash is empty
[02:53] <arash> nosrednaekim, lol, I'm sure noone is activ their
[02:54] <glauco1> nobody can help me?
[02:54] <gentoofan23> arash: Could you post your output from "lspci" on pastebin?
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> arash: true
[02:55] <arash> !pastebin
[02:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:55] <glauco1> ??
[02:55] <arash> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24573/
[02:56] <arash> glauco1, are you using ntfs-3g?
[02:56] <glauco1> yes
[02:56] <gentoofan23> arash: You have nvidia
[02:56] <gentoofan23> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0193 (rev a2)
[02:56] <arash> go to the folder where all the first stage files lies, press ctrl+h, go to .trash~username, they lies there
[02:57] <glauco1> ok wait
[02:57] <arash> gentoofan23 , so, any chanche I can make my screen be showing 1920*1200?
[02:58] <gentoofan23> arash: Possibly, you need to install the nvidia drivers
[02:58] <gentoofan23> !nvidia
[02:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:58] <gentoofan23> arash: ^^
[03:00] <arash> glauco1 - did it work?
[03:04] <glauco1> arash- no
[03:04] <arash> hmm
[03:05] <arash> the thing is, it is hidden, in nautilus it is ctrl+h, try to find some way to see hidden files in KDE explorer
[03:05] <glauco1> i have konqueror
[03:05] <glauco1> ctrl+h don't have any effects
[03:06] <glauco1> i have make a search of file that i have delete
[03:06] <glauco1> but it isnt
[03:07] <JuJuBee> what is the command line for downloading linux headers?
[03:08] <yRoR> Hi, any idea how do we set the java environement  variable JAVA_HOME ??
[03:09] <arash> glauco1  I'm not used to KDE, but you havce to make it show hidden files somehow
[03:09] <arash> I think it might be ctrl+f
[03:09] <glauco1> i try
[03:09] <JuJuBee> glauco1 go to view menu "show hidden files"
[03:11] <Jucato> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-(whatever version you need)
[03:12] <JuJuBee> how do I use uname -3
[03:12] <JuJuBee> -r
[03:12] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:12] <JuJuBee> Thanks...
[03:12] <Jucato> or better yet, just install linux-headers-generic
[03:12] <JuJuBee> Thought I needed my version #
[03:12] <arash> glauco1 , got it working?
[03:14] <glauco1> i'm tryng
[03:14] <glauco1> i'm not very fast
[03:15] <glauco1> in wich folder i must press ctrl+h
[03:15] <glauco1> ?
[03:15] <arash> it shouldnt be hard really, go to where you have mounted your ntfs drive, press view and take show hidden files.
[03:15] <arash> You should not press ctrl+h
[03:15] <arash> i was mistaken
[03:16] <glauco1> ok
[03:19] <arash> glauco1 , got it working :)?
[03:19] <glauco1> i still not found the hidden file
[03:20] <glauco1> it's incredible...I know
[03:20] <arash> its name is .trash~something I think
[03:20] <arash> the "show hidden files" is checked right?
[03:21] <glauco1> yes
[03:22] <arash> ok, in which folder are you now?
[03:22] <glauco1> in /home/
[03:22] <arash> where lied the file that you deleted?
[03:23] <glauco1> in /home/lib/dccrecv
[03:23] <arash> hmmm...
[03:24] <arash> I always thoought you hade deleted something from /media/hdx/blabla/, thn then hidden folder should be in /media/hdx/
[03:24] <arash> but in this case I'm as confused
[03:25] <glauco1>  aaaaaaah
[03:25] <glauco1> no :)
[03:26] <arash> but your root is a ntfs?
[03:27] <glauco1> yes
[03:27] <glauco1> maybe the problem is that I use conqueror?
[03:27] <glauco1> konqueror
[03:27] <arash> hmm, that might be it, perhaps the hidden folder .trash lies in "/" ,but I don't know
[03:28] <arash> Nah, it's pretty unlikely it's  konqueror fault
[03:28] <KomiaPoika> whats openoffice package name for ubuntu? apt-get install openoffice.org only installs a 27kb archive!
[03:29] <glauco1> i've also searched the /.trash folder, but nothing
[03:29] <arash> komiapoika , why can u use "add/remove" programs?
[03:30] <KomiaPoika> arash: where?
[03:30] <KomiaPoika> oh, kde menu
[03:30] <alesan> hi what is the preferred way to install vmware?
[03:31] <arash> koomiapoika , i think it lies in "office" in the GNU
[03:31] <glauco1> arash
[03:31] <arash> yes?
[03:31] <glauco1> i now view the hidden files
[03:31] <glauco1> where is the .trash directory?
[03:32] <arash> I don't know, I've only had the same issue for a mounted ntfs, not a root ntfs...
[03:32] <arash> GUI*******
[03:32] <arash> lol
[03:32] <glauco1> ok
[03:34] <arash> bye...
[03:35] <glauco1> bye
[03:35] <glauco1> tanks
[03:37] <jakub_> hi all, please help: I cannot logn - my X says: cannot write to /tmp
[03:38] <jakub_> I tried aptitude autoclean which saved some 7MB on /
[03:40] <Chani> goddamnit, is guidance-power-manager undead or something? it just. won't. die!
[03:40] <_Ahti> exit
[03:40] <Jucato> Chani: how won't it die?
[03:41] <Chani> I had finally gotten rid of it last week in edgy, and the dist upgrade brought it back
[03:41] <Chani> also, my clock vanished, and now that I've briought it back the settings are all gone
[03:43] <Chani> at least it doesn't go zombie when I quit it now
[03:44] <Jucato> hm...
[03:44] <Jucato> Chani: check /usr/share/autostart if the .desktop file is still there
[03:44] <KomiaPoika> is openoffice broken on kubuntu 7.04??
[03:45] <Chani> yeah, I re-killed the .desktop file
[03:46] <Chani> now I need to find my old clock rc file in the backup
[03:46] <Jucato> ~/.kde/share/config/ ?
[03:46] <Jucato> clock_panelapplet*
[03:46] <glauco1> arash
[03:46] <glauco1> !
[03:46] <glauco1> i've solved
[03:46] <glauco1> the directory is /home/lib/.local/share/Trash
[03:48] <Chani> Jucato: there are too many files in the config folder, that's the problem
[03:48] <Jucato> too many files with the same starting name? clock_panelapplet
[03:49] <Chani> no.. no file like that at all
[03:49] <Chani> :(
[03:52] <drrngrvy> hi all
[03:53] <drrngrvy> my wired internet connection (through a Netgear wireless router) seems to be VERY dodgy after the upgrade from ubuntu 6.10 -> 7.04
[03:53] <drrngrvy> is knetworkmanager known to be unstable?
[03:54] <selim> selam gobeller
[03:55] <KomiaPoika> can anyone install openoffice in kubuntu 7.04 using apt-get or aptitude ??
[03:55] <Kozzi> hello
[03:55] <Kozzi> How come everytime I right click( notebook) Konqueror goes back to previous folder ?
[03:56] <Kozzi> is there a way to fix it ?
[03:58] <Jucato> Kozzi: try to check this setting: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behavior -> Right-click goes back in history
[04:00] <Kozzi> now it crashed :8
[04:00] <Kozzi> it works now :), thnx again Jucato
[04:01] <KomiaPoika> can anyone install openoffice in kubuntu 7.04
[04:02] <Jucato> KomiaPoika: it should be installed by default
[04:02] <dazjorz> Hi
[04:03] <KomiaPoika> Jucato: all is installed by default is a link to the website...
[04:03] <Jucato> huh?
[04:03] <JuJuBee> I can't seem to get vmserver installed on feisty.  Cant get past the building vmmon error.  Even using the any-any patch.
[04:03] <dazjorz> I installed Ubuntu (not kubuntu) and I just installed the 'kde' package and all of the dependencies, so I (think I) effectively changed the system to kubuntu - but it still starts gdm, not kdm. How do I change this?
[04:04] <dazjorz> I remember it had something to do with reconfiguring x-window-system, but that package wasn't even installed...
[04:04] <ahurst> dazjorz - have you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[04:04] <dazjorz> ahurst: Oh, no, I didn't, doing that now
[04:04] <bipolar> dazjorz: you need to installl kubuntu-desktop, iirc
[04:04] <ahurst> :)
[04:04] <Jucato> well yes and no...
[04:04] <KomiaPoika> Jucato: /usr/bin/openoffice.org opens a konqueror to www.openoffice.org
[04:05] <Jucato> KomiaPoika: that's trange
[04:05] <Jucato> strange
[04:06] <KomiaPoika> i'm trying manual install described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398074
[04:06] <dazjorz> Uhh
[04:06] <dazjorz> Looks like de.archive.ubuntu.com is quite slow, I'd like to use netselect-apt to choose the fastest server, but it downloads the list of Debian mirrors
[04:06] <dazjorz> is there a similar mirrors_full file for Ubuntu / Kubuntu ?
[04:07] <jhutchins> dazjorz: As far as I know there is no mechanism to select a specifc server.
[04:08] <dazjorz> jhutchins: There's netselect, but I need a mirrors list like Debians'
[04:08] <jhutchins> dazjorz: It automatically cycles through the list until it hits a server that replies.
[04:08] <jhutchins> dazjorz: If you're in console mode, you may be able to hit Ctrl-C and prod it to try the next server.
[04:08] <ahurst> eurm, if you go to Software Sources in Administartion ( I think) you can change the server in there
[04:09] <ahurst> I think
[04:09] <Kefkachu> Heya, Jucato, what's up
[04:09] <Kefkachu> Oh, damn disconnection
[04:09] <Kefkachu> brb
[04:09] <dazjorz> jhutchins: Is there a mirrors list formatted like Debians' mirrors_full ?
[04:09] <Minataku> Nvm
[04:09] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:09] <jhutchins> dazjorz: Dunno, I don't run debian.
[04:09] <Minataku> I forgot, I have my alternate registered here
[04:09] <dazjorz> jhutchins: Just to make sure, I know what netselect is and does and you don't need to tell me what ctrl+c does.
[04:10] <dazjorz> jhutchins: Heh, if it wasn't a (k)ubuntu question, I wouldn't ask it here, now would I ?
[04:10] <jhutchins> dazjorz: Well, guess you don't need my help then.  Bye!
[04:10] <dazjorz> jhutchins: :)
[04:10] <dazjorz> jhutchins: it wasn't meant bad
[04:10] <dazjorz> jhutchins: It was just to make sure you know my level, so we can talk accordingly
[04:10] <dazjorz> jhutchins: Do you know netselect-apt?
[04:12] <dazjorz> jhutchins: I was pleased to know the Ubuntu repositories have the netselect-apt package too, but not so pleased when I saw it did *exactly* the same as in Debian: download the *debian* mirrors list while I want to have the Ubuntu mirrors list
[04:12] <dazjorz> jhutchins: do you know of any Ubuntu mirrors list?
[04:12] <Kozzi> How can I create a shortcut of HDDs to Desktop ?
[04:12] <KomiaPoika> if that procedure to install openoffice doesn't, work, then kubuntu 7.04 is the windows vista of linux
[04:13] <dazjorz> Kozzi: I think they are created automatically if you mount a volume
[04:13] <Dr_willis> i always want to remove openoffice. :)
[04:13] <ahurst> dazjorz - if you go to "Software Sources" -> "Download from:" -> "Other..." there's a list in there
[04:13] <dazjorz> KomiaPoika: I'm sorry? The CPU, memory and disk space hogger of Linux?
[04:14] <Kozzi> dazjorz:  no here isn't :( , only in media directory
[04:14] <dazjorz> ahurst: Thanks, I'll take a look
[04:14] <Kozzi> *there
[04:14] <dazjorz> Kozzi: Oh, I always mount volumes in media
[04:14] <Kozzi> dazjorz: yeah I just want a shortcut of them on the desktop
[04:14] <dazjorz> Kozzi: I'll take a look for you
[04:14] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis, what's new on this... thursday
[04:15] <Dr_willis> getting ready to leave.. so i will be BUSY all day now. :)
[04:15] <Dr_willis> run run run.. all i do.
[04:15] <ahurst> Kozzi - if you go to Right click the desktop "Create new" -> "Link to Device" there's all sorts of things you can link to in there
[04:16] <Kozzi> ahurst: I tried it , but it will try to remount the HDD
[04:16] <Kozzi> and fail
[04:16] <dazjorz> ahurst: Oh, great, looks like that program has a builtin netselect-like program
[04:16] <dazjorz> ahurst++ # thanks a lot
[04:16] <Dr_willis> bbl
[04:16] <ahurst> :)
[04:17] <mart81> anyone here in use of a draytek vigor?
[04:17] <dazjorz> mart81: I think I used to have one
[04:18] <dazjorz> Draytek Vigor 2500
[04:18] <mart81> i want to make sure i'll buy a router which works with feisty. (currently my speedtouch 716g is problematic)
[04:18] <dazjorz> heh
[04:18] <dazjorz> mart81: most routers don't care what OS you use on your network :)
[04:18] <dazjorz> mart81: as long as it's an ethernet router, it'll configure itself
[04:19] <KomiaPoika> dazjorz: no, the openoffice.org breaker
[04:19] <KomiaPoika> dazjorz: but it works almost to the end, the howto at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398074
[04:19] <dazjorz> mart81: then you just connect your computer to the ethernet router and it'll be allright - all popular OSes have ethernet support
[04:19] <KomiaPoika> you just need to load openoffice using /opt/openoffice.org2.2/program/swriter
[04:20] <mart81> dazjorz: myeah, i know, but in the summer i want to internet from the garden...
[04:20] <mart81> think i'll buy a 2200VG
[04:20] <dazjorz> mart81: Oh, you want a wireless one
[04:21] <dazjorz> mart81: well, then you probably want to get a wireless card that has support for linux, the wireless router has the same story as the ethernet router: it won't care what OS you use, as long as the OS has networking support
[04:22] <mart81> dazjorz: well, that might already be a problem, seeing i own a laptop (dell xps m1710)
[04:22] <dazjorz> mart81: I currently use a netgear wireless device, it works great, almost all distro's have madwifi drivers in the kernel (madwifi is the driver for atheros chipsets)
[04:23] <dazjorz> mart81: Well, any router is fine as long as (and this is important) it uses ethernet or wireless to connect to it, and *NOT* usb
[04:23] <mart81> and that card is working fine on winxp but not so fine under linux
[04:23] <dazjorz> usb is the mother of all evil
[04:23] <dazjorz> well, for routers, at least
[04:23] <dazjorz> for other devices like mass storage, it's great, but not for modems or routers
[04:23] <mart81> mine is an intell card i think
[04:24] <dazjorz> mart81: as long as your wireless card works, you won't have any trouble with an ethernet or wireless router, at least nothing OS-related
[04:24] <dazjorz> mart81: most intel wireless cards work right out of the box, as far as I know
[04:24] <mart81> dazjorz: that is what i am wondering about, because it actually could connect before i reinstalled kubuntu (only not that statble)
[04:25] <mart81> lemme try again this boot
[04:25] <mart81> nope, does not work
[04:26] <dazjorz> mart81: what does not work?
[04:26] <mart81> well, connecting stays IDLE at 28% i think, it should go to 58% (i think) for knowing it can connect
[04:27] <dazjorz> I'm not really that experienced with KDE's network manager, haven't used KDE for a while now
[04:28] <dazjorz> does this channel have the same strict rules as #ubuntu ?
[04:28] <mart81> myeah, but the weird part is that i actually can connect to my neighbours wifi without encryption. So there almost must be something wrong with encrypting seeing it worked in the past. Anyway, thanks for the help.
[04:29] <mart81> dazjorz: dunno, might
[04:30] <dazjorz> might what?
[04:30] <dazjorz> mart81: you probably want to configure wpa-supplicant
[04:30] <dazjorz> I added my network information to /etc/network/interfaces
[04:30] <dazjorz> under the interface:
[04:30] <dazjorz> address ...
[04:30] <dazjorz> netmask ...
[04:30] <dazjorz> gateway ...
[04:30] <dazjorz> wpa-driver madwifi
[04:30] <dazjorz> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:31] <dazjorz> It then automatically configures wpa_supplicant, which is the program that will connect you to your network
[04:31] <dazjorz> I can't say if this is the good way for KDE's network manager too, but it works fine here, KDE probably won't disconnect it all, etcetera.
[04:31] <dazjorz> Hopefully.
[04:33] <mart81>  /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf does not exist here
[04:34] <dazjorz> mart81: no, there are no wpa supplicant config files by default
[04:35] <dazjorz> I'm not sure if the package is installed by default
[04:35] <dazjorz> $ sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[04:35] <ubuntu__> affter upgrading to feisty (without errors) i can no longer boot/restart
[04:35] <dazjorz> that'll install WPA_Supplicant, then you can check WPA Supplicant's manual on how to configure it :)
[04:36] <dazjorz> I see some more wireless packages too, that you might check out: kwlan, wpagui, xsupplicant
[04:36] <ubuntu__> how to find out whats the problem
[04:36] <dazjorz> ubuntu__: please elaborate
[04:37] <dazjorz> ubuntu__: people come to irc channels and say "help, my computer does not work, what do i do"
[04:37] <dazjorz> ubuntu__: how does it not boot? any error? is there anything? anything special about your computer? any other information you found?
[04:37] <ubuntu__> dazjory, be sure i read through the upgrade man and did exactly what it expects me to do. as i said, no error during the upgrade.
[04:38] <dazjorz> anything during the boot?
[04:38] <ubuntu__> it seems like files are missing, e.g. the boot output wonders where rules/xorg.conf are
[04:38] <dazjorz> I see
[04:38] <dazjorz> can you get a shell?
[04:39] <ubuntu__> during boot, no.
[04:39] <dazjorz> do you have a livecd ?
[04:40] <ubuntu__> with the livecd i am online. one minute, please, and i will mount the hdd
[04:40] <dazjorz> maybe you can boot a livecd, then mount the partitions and check if the files are still there, if there are any logs in /var/log that might help you (on the root or /var partition, of course)
[04:40] <dazjorz> okay
[04:40] <dazjorz> I've got to go for a moment, I'll be right back
[04:40] <mart81> thanks all
[04:40] <mart81> l/part
[04:41] <ubuntu__> ok, now chroot or what do we need_
[04:42] <dazjorz> back
[04:42] <dazjorz> ubuntu__: you don't need to chroot, if you can mount the partition(s) your files are on, you can check them out without chrooting
[04:42] <dazjorz> just prepend /mount/point before the path, I guess you know the drill :)
[04:42] <dazjorz> s/prepend (.+) before/prepend $1 to/; # ?
[04:43] <ubuntu__> cd /mnt/... is ok, too, i guess...
[04:43] <dazjorz> yes, of course :)
[04:44] <daan> hi
[04:44] <daan> i have a small problem
[04:44] <ubuntu__> (k)ubuntu uses /etc/fstab like other distris, doesnt it
[04:44] <daan> i cant connect to several wireless networks
[04:44] <dazjorz> what the
[04:44] <Jucato> ubuntu__: yes
[04:45] <dazjorz> since when do all these games like ktron come with kde? :/
[04:45] <dazjorz> ubuntu__: Yes, every Linux distribution uses /etc/fstab
[04:45] <ubuntu__> so i wonder, why in the fstab the hda1 line is commented out
[04:45] <dazjorz> if you could paste /etc/fstab to a pastebin of your choice (e.g. http://paster.dazjorz.com/ )
[04:46] <dazjorz> ubuntu__: is there a line like UUID=64f753f8-9fab-43d2-a30a-b65f174baf69 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1 ?
[04:46] <Jucato> !uuid | ubuntu__
[04:46] <ubotu> ubuntu__: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:46] <dazjorz> Whoa, I didn't know that.
[04:47] <The_Machine> i performed the command:  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1test and it mounted correctly.  HOwever, I cannot access this drive as a normal user.  (Gives me permission denied).  How can i make it so i can mount this (which requires root access) so i can access it with a general user account?
[04:47] <ubuntu__> the uuid is inserted  http://nopaste.info/627de69859.html
[04:47] <Jucato> ubuntu__: Ubuntu uses UID instead of block device references. the UUID below the commented /dev/hdx line in /etc/fstab is the UUID for that partition
[04:48] <Minataku> Same here, dazjorz
[04:48] <Minataku> Not a fan of the UUID model at all
[04:48] <Jucato> you don't have to be. you can just as easily use what you want
[04:48] <ubuntu__> ok, then this is not wrong. the uuid is the same like hda1 has in blkid
[04:49] <dazjorz> But I understand why it's interesting to switch, though
[04:49] <Jucato> it's not like Ubuntu invented UUID....
[04:49] <dazjorz> some volumes sometimes are /dev/sda1 and sometimes /dev/hda1, here
[04:49] <Minataku> Jucato: Yes, but AFAIK they're the only ones to use it by default
[04:49] <dazjorz> what the hell
[04:49] <dazjorz> The system is going down for halt NOW! - I didn't tell it to halt.
[04:49] <Jucato> Minataku: for now. remember the reason why they switched
[04:49] <dazjorz> My laptop just switched to console and told me it would shutdown.
[04:49] <Jucato> it might be a default in the future for the kernel
[04:50] <Minataku> Jucato: Ew
[04:50] <Minataku> That can so easily screw things up
[04:50] <Jucato> might be... doesn't mean it will
[04:51] <Minataku> Too much potential for disaster, IMO
[04:51] <Jucato> Ubuntu's not the only one making these kind of changes
[04:51] <Jucato> Fedora 7 recently switched, but in a different way
[04:51] <Jucato> they switched from hdx to sdx
[04:51] <Minataku> Which is ultrastupid, considering hdx is for ATAPI devices, and sdx is for SCSI devices
[04:52] <Jucato> Minataku: tell that to the kernel devs then
[04:52] <dazjorz> Oh, so I was right about that.
[04:52] <Minataku> Or devices interacting via SCSI emulation
[04:52] <Minataku> Such as USB and SATA
[04:52] <ubuntu__> where where does the system expect the directory rules with the xorg.conf inside
[04:53] <ubuntu__> i found it
[04:53] <Minataku> Jucato: That doesn't sound right at all, such a severe core change would NOT happen in a stable kernel series
[04:53] <Minataku> Maybe in a 2.7, but massive changes like that would never happen in an X.<even>
[04:54] <Jucato> I think what's happening upstream (kernel) is that the code used for libsata is being used for libata, hence the transitions
[04:55] <Minataku> Jucato: That would still critically break EVERYTHING
[04:55] <Minataku> Especially systems using PATA devices
[04:55] <Minataku> If that change was made, my fstab would be invalid
[04:55] <ubuntu__> do both drapper and feisty use kdm
[04:55] <Minataku> I'd be up crap creek
[04:55] <Jucato> UUID hasn't broken for anything for me
[04:56] <Minataku> I mean hdx->sdx
[04:56] <Jucato> ubuntu__: KDE uses KDM. Kubuntu has always used it
[04:57] <ubuntu__> ok, my broken system tries to open etc/X11/xkb/rules -> /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules which fails. it does not exist on the hdd
[04:57] <Minataku> Link it
[04:57] <Minataku> Make a link from whichever doesn't exist to whichever does
[05:00] <oem> auch welche hier die deutsch knnen denn mene englisch ist nicht gerade das beste
[05:01] <oem> ???
[05:01] <Minataku> !de
[05:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:01] <Minataku> :)
[05:01] <oem> oh danke
[05:01] <Minataku> np
[05:01] <ubuntu__> oem. gibts keinen dt. chann
[05:01] <ubuntu__> ah, doch
[05:02] <ubuntu__> what may be a reason for the /usr/share/X11/xkb directory missing
[05:03] <ijk> I'm installing kubuntu 7.04; trying to create a 430GB partition on my SATA disk, but for some reason the installer just does a 39GB partition instead. ext3. any idea why and how to fix?
[05:03] <missmolotov> afternoon
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> hello
[05:05] <nosrednaekim> ijk: is the disk empty?
[05:05] <kristian> hey there: i want to start automatically "beryl --force-aiglx"...so i created a link in .kde/Autostart...but how i add the parameters "--force-aiglx"?
[05:05] <dazjorz> kristian: can't you make a shell script out of it
[05:05] <dazjorz> ?
[05:05] <ijk> no it's not; I've used the 30GB (sda1) for windows 64bit
[05:05] <dazjorz> echo "beryl --force-aiglx" >~/.kde/Autostart
[05:05] <dazjorz> or so
[05:05] <nosrednaekim> dazjorz: edit the .desktop file that you created
[05:05] <dazjorz> Just a hint, I've got to go now, bye
[05:05] <dazjorz> nosrednaekim: ?
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> dazjorz: sorry...wrong nick.
[05:06] <dazjorz> right ;)
[05:06] <missmolotov> i'm having a bit of 7.04 trouble as well, has nay one had much experience of install kubuntu on dell machines?
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> kristian: edit the .desktop file you created.
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: they are no different from any other. go on.
[05:07] <bipolar> missmolotov: I've got it on  a 600m laptop.
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> kristian: and on the executable, add "--force-aiglx"
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> bipolar: hey..my freind has the same one.. do you have the ATI card?
[05:07] <ketzerei> Um, is the installation for the fglrx driver for ubuntu the same as Kubuntu?
[05:08] <missmolotov> been using this excat version of kubuntu on this one, but on the dell machine it will either freeze completely after about half an hour, or it seems to crash a lot if you open adept, but not all of the time
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: no.. because kubuntu doesn't have restricted-manager (yet)
[05:08] <missmolotov> it's an intel chipset, I haven't had any experience of that either, so i'm kind of at a loss...
[05:08] <ketzerei> K, well, im trying to install the manager.... is that a problem?
[05:08] <bipolar> nosrednaekim: yes, unfortunetly
[05:09] <bipolar> nosrednaekim: I'm using the open source ati drivers, which work well enough
[05:09] <ketzerei> Will trying to install the manager on kubuntu mess kubuntu up?
[05:10] <ketzerei> ello?
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> bipolar: hmm x wouldn't work right off the livecd on his (and I didn't have alot of time to play around)
[05:11] <bipolar> nosrednaekim: really? strange. for me it was a 'just works' install. wifi and all just worked
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: no.. you can install it.
[05:11] <ketzerei> ok....Will it mess kubuntu up at all?
[05:11] <bipolar> nosrednaekim: maybe it's an issue with the livecd. I might have used the alt install.
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> bipolar: then again.. he configured it with a broadcom (which doen' help)
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: nope..thats how I did it
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> bipolar: ok.
[05:11] <bipolar> nosrednaekim: ohh! intel here.
[05:11] <ketzerei> ok then......
[05:11] <ijk> is my problem (the one with not being able to create large partitions with ext3) a known issue or is my hardware just seriously wicked? I couldn't find anything about it by the power of google..
[05:11] <bipolar> that might be an issue.
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> bipolar: not for x though I wouldn't think
[05:12] <bipolar> nosrednaekim: no, thats got nothing to do with X
[05:12] <magicbronson> anyone know how to get Tab to change keyboard focus to different buttons etc?
[05:12] <BluesKaj> ijk, what partition editor are you using ?
[05:13] <ijk> I'm using the graphical installer, so - the one included in the installer.
[05:13] <ijk> (the live cd -> install)
[05:13] <nosrednaekim> ijk: maybe try using qtparted before using the installer
[05:13] <ijk> will try that, thanks so far :] 
[05:14] <Xdebian> alguem brasileiro ae??
[05:14] <BluesKaj> actually GParted is more stable and effective ..it's also a live cd ...it'will do what you need in most situations
[05:14] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: but is it on the installer disc?
[05:15] <BluesKaj> no , you have to DL and burn it to a separate disk
[05:15] <missmolotov> is there anything windows kind of common that would freeze kubuntu, anything really obvious i should be checking after i've tested all hardware?  like stray processes, or files that need updating?
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> I thought the livcd on;y had qtparted
[05:15] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: I've had wireless do it.
[05:16] <missmolotov> thanks, i'll check that's all disbale, since i don't have any wireless hardware
[05:16] <BluesKaj> yeah nosrednaekim , it does but it's not really very reliable from most reports
[05:16] <jacques> hi there
[05:17] <BluesKaj> ijk, what are you trying to do ?
[05:17] <polopolo> Hello all
[05:17] <ketzerei> Can you get xubuntu for Kubuntu?
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ah ok.
[05:17] <ketzerei> the desktop I mean
[05:17] <jacques> is there any mirror for gutsy?
[05:17] <jacques> I want to download it
[05:17] <ubuntu__> here i am again... sorry. but my system does not like to boot yet
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: yep, do "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[05:17] <polopolo> How can I install kubuntu on my computer?
[05:17] <ketzerei> SWEET!
[05:17] <ubuntu__> it stops after it works with /etc/rc.load
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> jacques: might want to wait a little for gutsy.
[05:18] <ijk> BluesKaj: gparted isn't included on my livecd for some reason
[05:18] <nosrednaekim> ijk: its a separate liveCD
[05:18] <ijk> oh
[05:18] <ketzerei> I had qtparted on my Live cd
[05:19] <jacques> for tribe1 i mean
[05:19] <polopolo>  How can I install kubuntu on my computer?
[05:19] <ketzerei> Whats gutsy?
[05:19] <BluesKaj> no ijk , it's not , but you can try qtparted if you wish, however if it doesn't do what you need then DL and brun GParted to a separate disc ...it'll be handy in future , believe me.
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> jacques: go over to #kubuntu-devel for info on gutsy testing
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: do you have the liveCD?
[05:20] <magicbronson> anyone know how to get Tab to change keyboard focus to different buttons etc? seems not to out of the box
[05:20] <polopolo> yes
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> magicbronson: thats odd.. it does for me
[05:20] <ijk> okay I just misunderstood then :)
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: did you boot the liveCD yet?
[05:20] <polopolo> ketzerei: gutsy is the upcomming version of ubuntu
[05:20] <polopolo> yes
[05:20] <ketzerei> OH!
[05:20] <ketzerei> thanks
[05:21] <polopolo> I now on the live cd
[05:21] <magicbronson> nosrednaekim: just installed from ubuntu 7.04 live cd and then kubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <ketzerei> Oh by the way Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Ubuntu Kicks @$$$
[05:21] <magicbronson> also, selected something with the mouse doesn't copy it to the x clipboard
[05:21] <polopolo> but when I want to install, it does not want
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> magicbronson: in kde.. there is klipper
[05:21] <polopolo> I should see the error, wait
[05:22] <magicbronson> nosrednaekim: i see the "separate clipboard and selection" option is selected by default
[05:22] <magicbronson> nosrednaekim: what's that mean?
[05:23] <yaman> how can i enter a folder that contain spaces like Microsoft ActiveSync "cd Microsoft????
[05:23] <magicbronson> nosrednaekim: if i select something is there some other shortcut to paste it instead of Ctrl+C
[05:23] <ketzerei> Yaman: I believe you use _. am I right?
[05:24] <magicbronson> nosrednaekim: the behavior of choosing "synchronize..." instead is what i'm used to... is there a reason they changed this?
[05:24] <missmolotov> nope, no wireless enabled, wasn't that :/
[05:24] <yaman> ketzerei: mmmm  nop didn't work!! :(
[05:24] <pag> yaman, either cd "/path/to/Microsoft ActiveSync"  or cd /path/to/Microsoft\ ActiveSync
[05:25] <polopolo> I get the next error:
[05:25] <ketzerei> yaman: well, it works for me.
[05:25] <ketzerei> hmmm.
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> magicbronson: I don't know
[05:25] <yaman> or wait ?? i didn't try the "." ???
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: do you have wireless in your computer?
[05:25] <ketzerei> yaman: No . that was an accident
[05:26] <polopolo> No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.
[05:26] <polopolo> What must I do?
[05:26] <missmolotov> no, I don't have wirelss in my computer, so i guess that would have been a bit odd :)
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: you need to make a partiton for linux
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: ah..ok.
[05:26] <polopolo> I already ahve
[05:26] <ketzerei> PoloPolo: Did you check the box and set it?
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: you need to set its mount point to "/"
[05:26] <missmolotov> is there an easy way of checking what graphics driver you are using?
[05:26] <ijk> BluesKaj, nosrednaekim : worked like a charm with qtparted; thanks :)
[05:26] <polopolo> The partition maker in the installer does not work good
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: yeah, "glxinfo"
[05:27] <polopolo> so I potitioning with qtparted
[05:27] <polopolo> two EXT3 partitions
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: well... actually that might not tell you
[05:27] <yaman> mmm then it didn't work ? the * works but i can't use the * to access all folders else i am getting this |bash: cd:  Microsoft ActiveSync : No such file or directory
[05:27] <polopolo> and a swap
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: ok.
[05:27] <Banditz> kubuntu > ubuntu :D
[05:28] <yaman> and this Microsoft_ActiveSync : No such file or directory
[05:28] <polopolo> nobody knows how to fix?
[05:28] <BluesKaj> ijk, good to hear, still recommend GParted as a Partition Editor for future use tho... safe and effective
[05:28] <ketzerei> polopolo: Listen, if you're having that much trouble, re-download the .iso and re-burn it.
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: I forget what the fiesty installer looks like..
[05:29] <ketzerei> That worked for me.
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: its not a problem with that.. he's not setting the mount point correctly
[05:29] <ketzerei> Oh!
[05:29] <yaman> pag : you were ryt thats it the " worked thanx
[05:29] <polopolo> you mean I have to go to shipit again?????!?!?!?!?!?
[05:29] <missmolotov> polopolo; it easist if you have 2 etx3 partitions, and then one swap parition, with no mount point
[05:29] <salaah> i need help configuring my video card, i installed the latest drivers, what do  i do now?
[05:29] <ketzerei> Well then, I cant help you.
[05:29] <yaman> ketzerei : thank you too
[05:29] <missmolotov> *ext3
[05:29] <ketzerei> yaman: Np
[05:29] <salaah> mines an nvidia 6600gt btw
[05:29] <pag> yaman, np.
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> salaah: which drivers did you install.. what video card?
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia | salaah
[05:30] <ubotu> salaah: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <polopolo> I gonna reset the computer and check the md5.
[05:30] <ketzerei> Ok, when I install the driver (ati), do I use the Edgy instructions?
[05:30] <salaah> nosrednaekim: i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[05:30] <polopolo> ty all
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> polopolo: ok
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: if you are using edgy, yes.
[05:31] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: if you are using fiesty. no ;)
[05:31] <ketzerei> I think I have edgy, if I don't, what do I do?
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: first lets check which you have... do "uname -a"
[05:32] <salaah> why doesnt sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg work?
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> and paste it
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> salaah: its xserver-org
[05:32] <nosrednaekim> *xserver-xorg
[05:32] <salaah> oh yeah...heheh
[05:32] <ketzerei> Linux ketzerei-desktop 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:32] <salaah> thanks
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: thats fiesty
[05:33] <ketzerei> ok then....
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: so did you get "restricted-manager"?
[05:33] <ketzerei> ....
[05:33] <ketzerei> ?
[05:33] <missmolotov> nosrednaekim: tried glxinfo, don't really get it to be honest, don't think the driver i have is working anyway, guess i should try installing it manually
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: what type of video card do you have?
[05:34] <ketzerei> restricted-manager?
[05:34] <missmolotov> an ATI 9500
[05:34] <missmolotov> unfortuntly, it's a work machine, all mine are nvidia :D hence my confusion
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: restricted-manager helps you install proprietary drivers
[05:34] <ketzerei> Yes, i sudo apt-get it.
[05:34] <ketzerei> What do I do now?
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: ah ok. did you install the fglrx driver?
[05:34] <ketzerei> Not familiar with kubuntu
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: thats ok... run "kdesu restricted-manager"
[05:35] <ketzerei> ok, ill try
[05:35] <falves> hello
[05:35] <anthony_> hi, how do I install the latest nvidia drivers in kubuntu 7.10?
[05:35] <falves> how to create an account invites under linux
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> anthony_: the hard way.
[05:36] <missmolotov> yeah, i went to the ubuntu guide, and tried it the 'ubuntu way', which didn't seem to do anything, then realised it wasn't working when i went to install beryl, removed beryl again, which i guess means I should be trying to install the driver manually next?
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> falves: account invites? kubuntu isn't gmail.
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> lol
[05:36] <anthony_> any how-to link?
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> missmolotov: yeah
[05:36] <anthony_> will envy work?
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[05:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <anthony_> 10q :)
[05:36] <ketzerei> nosrednaikim: I think it works!!!! Thank you!
[05:36] <missmolotov> thanks, i'll give that a bash then
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: you installed the driver in there?
[05:37] <ketzerei> W00t! Unreal Tournament time!
[05:37] <ketzerei> yes
[05:37] <missmolotov> no envy won't work on my machine, it installed okay, but when i open it, it never loads, just dissappears
[05:37] <anthony_> okay 10x
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: you have to restart your xserver.
[05:38] <ketzerei> It lives! It lives!
[05:38] <ketzerei> Its working now!
[05:38] <ketzerei> :D
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: what does glxgears give you?
[05:38] <ketzerei> sudo lsmod and guess what! its there!
[05:38] <ketzerei> glxgears works
[05:38] <ketzerei> well
[05:38] <nosrednaekim> what framerate?
[05:38] <ketzerei> like 560 something
[05:38] <ketzerei> :D
[05:39] <Minataku> Heh
[05:39] <ketzerei> kdesu is so weird for me. Im so used to gksudo XD
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: ok... is when it is running fullscreen?
[05:40] <Minataku> Try glxgears with no GL
[05:40] <ketzerei> It works. I've done the same thing in ubuntu too.
[05:40] <ketzerei> Well, brb. Gotta reboot for something else.
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> ok. cool
[05:41] <_Ahti> How can i get to the kthememanager?????
[05:41] <_Ahti> its not there :@
[05:41] <Jucato> !changethemes | _Ahti
[05:41] <ubotu> _Ahti: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[05:41] <Jucato> last link ^^^
[05:43] <sercik> someone knows hot to eliminate the effects when the mouse stay on minimized windows icon in taskbar?
[05:43] <sercik> a sort of big label with a transitional effect
[05:44] <ketzerei> YAY! IT WORKS!
[05:45] <ketzerei> Hey nos, you still there?
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: congrats.
[05:46] <doobeh> I seem to be having issues getting my resolution up to 1680x1050-- I've set the monitor to be 1680x1050 at 60hz from the generic menus, but the resolution slider doesn't have a point for that resolution
[05:46] <ketzerei> Thanks. I'm not used to kde so it weird. I still like gnome better. :D
[05:46] <doobeh> It just jumps up to 1920xetc
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> ketzerei: to each his own
[05:46] <doobeh> Anyone know of a good guide for correcting resolutions?
[05:46] <ketzerei> Well, see ya when I mess everything up again :D
[05:46] <ketzerei> bye
[05:47] <doobeh> I tried adding modelines in to the xorg file, but again, it didn't seem to make any difference
[05:49] <Dodger73> yello
[05:54] <duryodhan> hey ... I am trying to switch from Windows to Kubuntu (I am a advanced Slack user, but am at Aunt's place and I don't want her to go thru the pain of Slackware) ...  This place has a broadband thru PPP over ethernet. Are there any specific problems or stuff I should know about it?
[05:55] <duryodhan> Also the ethernet is thru Realtek 8139 which is notorious to work with in Slack ... is there any problems in Kubuntu too ?
[05:55] <Jucato> PPPoE? not much. there's no GUI to configure it though. just use "pppoeconf"
[05:55] <duryodhan> ok thanks ...
[05:55] <duryodhan> abt the RealTek 8139 ?
[05:55] <Jucato> not sure :)
[05:56] <duryodhan> I guess google is my friend ... :)
[05:56] <polopolo> Hello all
[05:56] <duryodhan> btw, I want to rant a little ...
[05:56] <Jucato> !offtopic
[05:56] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:56] <Jucato> :)
[05:57] <duryodhan> who the hell came up with the stupid idea of not allowing users to use su ???
[05:57] <Jucato> !sudo | duryodhan
[05:57] <ubotu> duryodhan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:57] <polopolo> !offtopic | duryodhan
[05:57] <ubotu> duryodhan: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:57] <polopolo> :P
[05:58] <Dodger73> anyone with an ati card that got fglrx to work here? ;)
[05:58] <BluesKaj> wow the offtopic police are getting relly picky ...not as if it's real busy in here atm
[05:58] <Minataku> ATI cards don't work.
[05:58] <Minataku> Period. >.>
[05:58] <Minataku> Ooooh, lunchtime
[05:59] <Dodger73> it seems to, except for dri :P
[05:59] <BluesKaj> Dodger73, yes I have ...and what is your definition of "work" ?
[05:59] <Dodger73> well
[05:59] <Dodger73> fglrxinfo gives me this:
[05:59] <Dodger73> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[05:59] <Dodger73> Major opcode of failed request:  143 (XFree86-DRI)
[05:59] <lucky_lucas> anyone is eclipse here ? I wonder how I can interface it the launchpad with eclipse
[06:00] <Dodger73> this is using the driver from the ati web site
[06:00] <BluesKaj> ok, Dodger73 , which ati card ?
[06:00] <Dodger73> it's a 512MB x1900xtx
[06:01] <BluesKaj> Dodger73, http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[06:02] <Dodger73> i looked at that, but the patch in it is for a different driver version - should i run the older driver?
[06:03] <Dodger73> oh and one thing i noticed is this
[06:03] <Dodger73> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[06:03] <Dodger73> compiled for 7.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
[06:03] <BluesKaj> Dodger73, go with the the driver on theat page ...it's older but it's modded and patched to work on feisty
[06:03] <Dodger73> from the x.org log - is this correct? i'm running feisty with xorg 7.2
[06:04] <Dodger73> ah... ok, cool
[06:04] <Dodger73> i'll give that a try :)
[06:04] <Dodger73> thanks BluesKaj!
[06:04] <BluesKaj> one hint Dodger73
[06:05] <duryodhan> I know sudo ...
[06:05] <Dodger73> yes?
[06:05] <BluesKaj> you don't have to use the tutor's xorg file like he suggests , just make sure the drivers are fglrx
[06:05] <duryodhan> anyways are you all available in the chat channel too ?
[06:05] <BluesKaj> of course
[06:05] <duryodhan> then we will waste bandwith over there ....
[06:06] <Dodger73> yeah... i'll probably just try the one aticonfig writes and see what happens
[06:07] <BluesKaj> Dodger73, there are a couple of tweaks to add if you plan on feeding fglrx with a tvtuner
[06:07] <Dodger73> i don't think i'll need the tv tuner... just getting glx and dri to work will do :)
[06:08] <BluesKaj> right, and then google earth will run as well :)
[06:08] <josnier> this site is very good
[06:09] <no0b> Is there a favorites option within amarok too save the radio stations too bookmarks?
[06:09] <no0b> HEY LOOK @@@@^
[06:10] <no0b> ebay lolz
[06:13] <Dodger73> alright.... all done, lets's see if this works
[06:13] <Dodger73> bb
[06:13] <venik212> Is there anything like Google Desktop Search or Windows Desktop Search in Linux?  The LOCATE command misses things quite often
[06:14] <missmolotov> when you lspci -v and your looking at graphics cards, if you've got a dual monitor card, is that why it shows up as having a VGA controller and a Display Controller?
[06:16] <yaman> hi please need help , i did an update to my system and when i rebooted the grub lost the winxp (in the multiboot screen) and in the first screen (on testing hardware) my computer freez but when i login in the recovery login i can enter normaly after i use the exit command to login to the gnom "how can i get back my old menu.lst  ??
[06:16] <dazjorz> try running "update-grub"
[06:17] <dazjorz> or grub-update, can't remember which
[06:17] <ketzerei> update-grub
[06:17] <venik212> update-grub
[06:17] <ketzerei> go to the ubuntu forums. There's like 8 topics on Grub.
[06:18] <ketzerei> They're very helpful when you FUBAR grub.
[06:18] <yaman> i did but no xp boot lines added
[06:18] <ketzerei> Just go to the forums. Youll figure it out.
[06:18] <yaman> kkkk
[06:18] <bipolar> yaman: thats becaouse bill gates says you're not alowed to run it any more
[06:19] <ketzerei> XD
[06:19] <Dodger73> ok, now dri is working but it seems the GLX lib is the wrong one
[06:19] <bipolar> yaman: with all this ubuntu trechery and all
[06:19] <yaman> bipolar: lol i don't think i am ready to use the linux :P
[06:20] <bipolar> yaman: sure you are. you just don't know it yet.
[06:20] <ketzerei> oh you'll get it
[06:20] <Dodger73> BluesKaj: dri works, but i'm getting mesa as the GL provider
[06:20] <bipolar> yaman: let me pastebin my grub line for XP
[06:20] <ketzerei> Hell its taken me 5 months to figure out how to get ut2004 to run
[06:20] <ketzerei> XD
[06:20] <missmolotov> yaman: you can use windows recovery console to edit the master boot record and fix grub
[06:20] <missmolotov> if i'm getting your meaning
[06:20] <yaman> bipolar : hahahah you still have gates in your computer :P
[06:21] <yaman> gatcha
[06:21] <bipolar> yaman: http://pastebin.ca/548054
[06:21] <bipolar> yaman: that root(0,0) line might be diffrent for you
[06:21] <yaman> missmolotov : i ll try this step if bipolar pastebin doesn't work
[06:22] <yaman> bipolar: thanx  my friend
[06:22] <missmolotov> k, i'm off home anyway, just a thought :)
[06:22] <bipolar> missmolotov: yaman: the windows recovery console will trample grub, iirc
[06:22] <missmolotov> it will, but at least you can dual boot again then, it it's totally fuct
[06:23] <bipolar> yaman: the first 0 is the hard drive number, the second one is the partion number. the numbers start with 0
[06:23] <bipolar> yaman: so /dev/hda1 is (0,0)
[06:23] <ketzerei> yes
[06:23] <bipolar> hda2 is (0,1) and so fourth
[06:24] <yaman> bipolar: the ubuntu boot is on root		(hd0,7)  ??? this mean the windows is not on the same hd ?? ryt ?
[06:24] <ketzerei> if I remember correctly, there's a grub command that finds you MBR
[06:24] <bipolar> yaman: how many hard drives does the pc have?
[06:24] <yaman> 2 ntfs 1e xt2
[06:25] <yaman> 1 swap
[06:25] <ketzerei> My comp had 4. I fried 3
[06:25] <ketzerei> XD
[06:25] <deminemi> if you only have one hard drive it is on the same hard drive, but probably in a different place
[06:25] <deminemi> different partition
[06:25] <bipolar> yaman: in a console, run 'cat /proc/partitions' and paste it into http://pastebin.ca
[06:25] <bipolar> yaman: then paste the link here, so I can look at it.
[06:26] <yaman> this one
[06:26] <yaman> 3     8    6771366 hda8
[06:26] <yaman> sorry
[06:26] <bipolar> yaman: thats your windows partition?
[06:26] <yaman>   3     1   19591236 hda1
[06:26] <yaman> hda1
[06:26] <bipolar> hda1 is windows?
[06:26] <yaman> i know its 19GB
[06:26] <yaman> yeah
[06:26] <bipolar> ok. (0,0) it is then
[06:27] <bipolar> my pastebin should work as is
[06:27] <yaman> root            (hd1,0) ??
[06:27] <yaman> mm then its should be root            (hd0,0)
[06:27] <bipolar> yaman: if hda1 is windows, my pastebin should work as it is with no modifications
[06:27] <venik212> Does anyone know how to transfer files in Jabbdr (GoogleTalk) using Kopete?
[06:27] <bipolar> just add it to the end of the menu.lst file
[06:27] <ketzerei> Nope
[06:28] <ketzerei> Dang does xubuntu take a long time to install....
[06:28] <ketzerei> ugh
[06:28] <yaman> kkkk lets make a restart just one min brb \
[06:28] <bipolar> yaman: good luck
[06:29] <ketzerei> Well....Im bored
[06:29] <venik212> Ket--Help me, then!
[06:29] <venik212> Does anyone know how to transfer files in Jabbdr (GoogleTalk) using Kopete?
[06:29] <ketzerei> I dont use Kopete. sorry
[06:29] <venik212> Is there anything like Google Desktop Search or Windows Desktop Search in Linux?  The LOCATE command misses things quite often
[06:30] <ketzerei> Ummm, like I said. I don't know. Sorry.
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> !beagle | venik212
[06:30] <ubotu> venik212: Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[06:30] <bipolar> venik212: as far as I know, kopete does not yet have the ability to transfer files with jabber accounts
[06:30] <ketzerei> YAY, its done
[06:35] <yaman> worked !!! xp back !
[06:35] <yaman> :)
[06:35] <Minataku> That's a good thing?
[06:36] <gdiebel> if there is data that you need to get off the cursed beast until being rid of it forever
[06:36] <yaman> just for the grub looder :P
[06:36] <yaman> thanx for hellping :)
[06:37] <bipolar> yaman: cool.
[06:37] <bipolar> yaman: now try to use it as little as possible :)
[06:37] <yaman> bipolar: thanx it's all because of you
[06:38] <yaman> bipolar : came back to the irc to tell you thanx but i forgot the nick name :) \
[06:38] <bipolar> haha
[06:38] <yaman> byee
[06:38] <bipolar> bye
[06:39] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to stop my bluetooth LED from blinking? I tried stopping the service, but that doesn't do it
[06:39] <Minataku> yurimxpxman: Open it up, replace with resistor
[06:39] <Minataku> Or just put a piece of tape over it
[06:39] <Minataku> Or disconnect it
[06:39] <bipolar> A little dab of black paint
[06:39] <yurimxpxman> my friend said it didn't do that in Windows
[06:40] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: find out what the blinking means.
[06:40] <Minataku> As if Windows is really what dictates proper form and procedure :P
[06:40] <Minataku> If anything, if something works in Windows, that's only more proof that it's WRONG
[06:40] <yurimxpxman> Minataku: well, it's really annoying, because it never stops blinking - ever.
[06:41] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: the blinking may mean the radio is powered up, but initiilized, or maybe it's scanning for devices
[06:41] <Minataku> yurimxpxman: Just stick a piece of tape over it
[06:41] <Minataku> If it's working fine in Linux and just blinking, give it the 'ol "Check Engine Light" repair
[06:41] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: really need to know what it's trying to do before we can figure out how to stop it.
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> Minataku: I tried that, but it's so bright it shines through
[06:42] <Minataku> yurimxpxman: Electrical tape
[06:42] <Minataku> Not gonna shine through that
[06:42] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: ele... yeah, what Minataku said
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> bipolar: any idea how to find out what it's trying to do?
[06:42] <Minataku> The main question is: Does it work just fine?
[06:42] <yurimxpxman> no, it wasn't working when I tried it
[06:42] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: you said you had a windows friend that knows something about it. maybe he knows what it's doing while blinking
[06:42] <Minataku> If it does, either tape over it or snip the LED
[06:42] <ketzerei> What do you need to run gnome programs on xfce?
[06:43] <yurimxpxman> but I don't use bluetooth myself, so I don't care whether it works or not
[06:43] <Minataku> Then just tape over it
[06:43] <Dr_willis> ketzerei,  they should run fine. always have for me. No extras needed
[06:43] <bipolar> ketzerei: just use apt to install them and the dependancys will automatily be installed
[06:43] <Minataku> Or short across the leads
[06:43] <ks1> Hi I was wondering if Kubuntu has all of the clutter like a kde built from source not customized? (K this K that, that you do not need)
[06:43] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :D
[06:43] <ketzerei> Oh.........Sweet. Thanks
[06:43] <yurimxpxman> bipolar: I got this laptop from my friend who used to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. He said it only blinked in Linux
[06:43] <Minataku> No wonder he gave it to you
[06:43] <Dr_willis> one mans clutter is another mans  nessicary feature.
[06:43] <Minataku> It's a blue one, too, isn't it?
[06:43] <yurimxpxman> yeah
[06:44] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: and he never used the bluetooth?
[06:44] <bipolar> Minataku: haha
[06:44] <Dr_willis> kubuntu's kde is a liuttle more trimmed down then the vanilla kde. but not by much
[06:44] <yurimxpxman> bipolar: he used bluetooth in Windows, but I don't use it myself, so all I want is to stop the light
[06:44] <ks1> Dr_willis, I am looking for a better answer than that. okay, thank you for your second reply :)
[06:44] <Minataku> Seriously, though, tape over it or remove the LED, replace with a resistor maybe 100 ohms
[06:44] <Minataku> If even
[06:44] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: the quickest way is always going to be the electrical tape. :)
[06:45] <Minataku> LEDs are more or less resistanceless, at least as far as current draw is concerned
[06:45] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: otherwise, check the systems logs to see if anything is going on
[06:45] <yurimxpxman> it'd be nice to find the source of the problem though, which is, evidently, the driver
[06:45] <Minataku> Which is why the current limiting resistor is necessary
[06:45] <Minataku> Otherwise it puts all the current it can supply into the LED and you've suddenly got an SED instead
[06:45] <ks1> Dr_willis, I know KDE is planning on slimming down things, the cluttered menu is one thing that keeps me from using it. (I know i can hide all of the *.desktop files by adding an entry)
[06:45] <Minataku> You can probably just leave it open, as well
[06:46] <yurimxpxman> ks1: you could always edit the menu manually, like I do
[06:46] <ks1> yurimxpxman, that is what i am talking about. I edit through the *.desktop files though.
[06:46] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: K> system> KSystemLog
[06:47] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Back from wherever you had to go, I assume it's same to assume?
[06:47] <Minataku> XD
[06:47] <Dr_willis> almosyt. :)
[06:47] <yurimxpxman> bipolar: I don't see anything in there about bluetooth :(
[06:47] <Minataku> Heehee
[06:47] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: unfortunetly, my laptop here does not have bluetooth at all.
[06:48] <bipolar> yurimxpxman: just try searching for 'blue'
[06:48] <yurimxpxman> bipolar: I'll trade ya! :D
[06:48] <Minataku> !bluetooth
[06:48] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:48] <Minataku> Try that
[06:48] <yurimxpxman> ok
[06:48] <Dr_willis> ks1,  a cluttered Start/K menu - is the least of the clutter thats becomming common on  most OS's these days :)
[06:48] <Minataku> Setting it up to working should suffice as well as disabling
[06:49] <ks1> Dr_willis, true, but the other is "unseen" to many. Though it can be felt with older systems.
[06:50] <ketzerei> Can anyone recommend any good games?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> ketzerei,  depends on what you like. :)
[06:50] <bipolar> bbiab... rebooting into gutsy
[06:50] <ketzerei> Anything.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Frozenbubble :) a MUST play
[06:50] <ketzerei> Fps, rpg, doesnt matter
[06:50] <yurimxpxman> When I restart the bluetooth service, it says "Failed to connect to the SDP server."
[06:50] <Dr_willis> then come back 8 hrs later. heh heh
[06:50] <ketzerei> puzzles are fun too
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Theres that UrbanTerror game out for ya Fragging Needs.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> and Tremulus
[06:51] <Dr_willis> I think i spelt that right
[06:51] <Minataku> I've been playing Forza Motorsport 2
[06:51] <ketzerei> Frozenbubble, Urbanterror, tremulous, Nexiuz, played them
[06:51] <Minataku> But then I'm a console gamer, not a PC gamer
[06:51] <ketzerei> anything else?
[06:52] <ks1> ketzerei, enemy territory if you like the quake3 engine
[06:52] <Dr_willis> google for that Linux Game Tome Site.
[06:52] <ketzerei> Ive played wesnoth, ut2004, americas army, armagetron (old and new),... anything else?
[06:52] <Minataku> There's plenty of Flash games out there
[06:52] <Minataku> With Flash Player 9 they actually work right
[06:52] <ketzerei> ET is ok
[06:52] <ketzerei> Linux game tome?
[06:52] <Minataku> Not like Macromedia and their crappy Fl Pl 7
[06:53] <Dr_willis> thats the name of the site
[06:53] <ketzerei> Macro is now adobe
[06:53] <Minataku> I know
[06:53] <ketzerei> Ok, ill google it.
[06:53] <ketzerei> Thanks!
[06:53] <Minataku> Adobe gave us a working Fl Pl
[06:53] <Minataku> Macromedia didn't give a sh!t
[06:53] <rolnxyz_> telnet crawl.akrasiac.org
[06:53] <Minataku> rolnxyz_: This is XChat, not xterm
[06:53] <Minataku> ;3
[06:53] <Minataku> Or whatever you may be using
[06:54] <rolnxyz_> you were talking about crappy flash games
[06:54] <rolnxyz_> try that out
[06:54] <rolnxyz_> THAT is the game
[06:54] <Minataku> rolnxyz_: Please keep your negative opinions to yourself
[06:54] <Minataku> Plenty of Flash games are excellent
[06:54] <Dr_willis> and plenty are not. :) heh
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Mediocrity in Abundance! :)
[06:55] <Minataku> Flash isn't so much an animation package as it is a programming language
[06:55] <Dr_willis> We all know that game went down hill after  Elf Bowling!
[06:55] <Dr_willis> games went down hill.
[06:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Manage to find those calculators or too busy?
[06:56] <Minataku> I fell asleep early last night
[06:56] <venik212> While using Kopete, I am trying to get File Traaansfer to work with GoogleTalk, but I am getting a Kopete Error
[06:56] <Dr_willis> aint seen them yet.
[06:56] <Minataku> XD
[06:56] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Nuts D:
[06:56] <Minataku> Well, like I said, no rush ^^
[06:56] <venik212> I know tehre were bugs in this part of it, but had hoped they were fixed by now
[06:57] <Minataku> I've seen accidental double letters, but triple? That's new. XD
[06:57] <Minataku> Sorry, not trying to be mean, I just think it's kinda funny X3
[06:57] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  ya so far my day has been.. get up.. go to store to get some hose, and parts to fix the wifes pool and bird cage.. she calles me inthe store.. "come look at this used car"  so that takes an hr+ more.. Then come home 'why dont you go grill out!"
[06:57] <Dr_willis> so now its timne to get ready for work
[06:57] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[06:57] <Dr_willis> But at least i did  grill somne Pork Chops! :)
[06:57] <Minataku> Stay strong X3
[06:57] <Minataku> Sounds tasty :3
[06:58] <Dr_willis> and of course now SHES gone.. so it will all be cold by the time she actually eats it.,
[06:58] <Minataku> #.#
[07:02] <JuJuBee> Does frostwire run well on ubuntu?
[07:02] <eaglehawk> hello everybody
[07:03] <eaglehawk> can anybody tell me if kernel 2.6.20 available for edgy
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !frostwire
[07:05] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:05] <Dr_willis> runs fine for me
[07:05] <Dr_willis> be sure to use the officla sun java.
[07:05] <no0b> Hey guys, how do we open .rar files with linux?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> !rar
[07:05] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:06] <no0b> !info unrar-free
[07:06] <Jucato> no0b: install unrar or unrar-free
[07:06] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:06] <Jucato> both are "free as in beer"
[07:06] <no0b> thank you friend
[07:06] <bipolar> no0b: 'sudo apt-get install rar unrar'
[07:06] <bipolar> no0b: ark will use them automaticly
[07:06] <no0b> +)
[07:07] <no0b> Also, which is the best torrent application?
[07:07] <no0b> I am using bittorrent but it seems really slow.
[07:08] <no0b> like, 10.5MB's is taking 4 hours
[07:08] <bipolar> no0b: I use ktorrent
[07:08] <no0b> ok
[07:08] <no0b> I try this ktorrent
[07:08] <bipolar> no0b: make sure you have ports forwarded
[07:08] <no0b> where is this option in bittorrent?
[07:08] <bipolar> no0b: ktorrent is in stalled by default in kubuntu
[07:09] <bipolar> no0b: you can check the config to see what ports it's using, but forwarding the ports requres you to do it manualy on your firewall/router.
[07:09] <bipolar> thats the same for all bt clients
[07:10] <no0b> Do I have a firewall?
[07:10] <no0b> You mean my router getaway?
[07:10] <no0b> I can set them there, but I cant find the bittorrent options?
[07:10] <no0b> Where's the bittorrent .exe?
[07:11] <no0b> Or, deb
[07:11] <no0b> like in program files
[07:12] <bipolar> no0b: it's not an .exe. .exe's are windows programs
[07:13] <bipolar> no0b: use the K menu in the bottom left corner.
[07:13] <no0b> It's not there
[07:13] <bipolar> K > Internet > Ktorrent (bittorrent client)
[07:13] <no0b> Under internet
[07:13] <bipolar> it's not?
[07:13] <bipolar> ok.
[07:13] <no0b> no
[07:13] <bipolar> open up a console
[07:13] <no0b> ok
[07:13] <bipolar> run 'sudo apt-get install ktorrent'
[07:14] <bipolar> it will ask you for your password, then download and install it.
[07:14] <no0b> what's downloading my torrent at the moment?
[07:14] <bipolar> heh, I don't know. I'm not at your desktop :)
[07:14] <bipolar> you are running Kubuntu, right?
[07:14] <no0b> yes, with bittorrent
[07:14] <no0b> idk
[07:14] <no0b> wtf?
[07:15] <no0b> ok Ill run sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[07:15] <Daskreech> no0b: it's already installed if you installed kubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <no0b> I remember removing it
[07:16] <bipolar> I need a way to get an outgoing vnc conection
[07:16] <bipolar> no0b: ahh. thats why it's not there.
[07:16] <no0b> via add and remove programs
[07:16] <Daskreech> no0b: ktorrent?
[07:16] <no0b> but whats bittorrent?
[07:16] <no0b> Ktorrent is now installed via sudo apt-get install ktorrent
[07:16] <bipolar> no0b: the 'bittorrent' command is a command line program
[07:16] <no0b> ok
[07:17] <bipolar> I doubt you want to use that every day
[07:17] <Daskreech> no0b: it's a file transfer protocol that's p2p and open source
[07:17] <no0b> yeah like demonoid?
[07:18] <no0b> man Im glad i got that ktorrent back
[07:18] <no0b> I was wondering how the torrent would come down on my computer.
[07:18] <no0b> but now it willl be fine
[07:18] <Daskreech> no0b: Umm not quite that is a site that uses bittorrent :) but sure the two of them work together
[07:20] <no0b> thanks guys
[07:20] <no0b> X)
[07:22] <ZanQdo> hi
[07:23] <ZanQdo> is it a good idea to mount a server in kubuntu?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> ya may want to clarify that question.
[07:24] <ZanQdo> yes sorry
[07:24] <no0b> guys, when I try to remove Bit Torrent via synaptic package manager it trys and removes the ubuntu desktop aswell?
[07:24] <ZanQdo> I want kubuntu on the server
[07:24] <no0b> Now that I have ktorrent, I no longer want bit torrent
[07:24] <ZanQdo> just tu acces the hard drives
[07:24] <ZanQdo> and simple stuff like that
[07:24] <Dr_willis> no0b,  thats because its part of the meta-pacakcge.., dont worry about removing bittorrent
[07:24] <ZanQdo> and if it can read write ntfs then better!
[07:25] <no0b> I dont want it on my computet though?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> I set up my Ubuntu box to share the users home dirs over Samba all the time.
[07:25] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[07:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:25] <Dr_willis> no0b,  it dosent matter at all.
[07:25] <no0b> ok then so dont remove it?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> no0b,  may as well leave it. You gain little by removing it.
[07:25] <ZanQdo> thanks
[07:25] <no0b> ok then
[07:25] <no0b> thank you
[07:26] <mohaghna111> hiya all
[07:26] <Dr_willis> darn - about time for me to go to work. :(
[07:27] <tbleek> can someone help me getting sound with flash (firefox) working on amd64?
[07:32] <BigGamer95> salut
[07:33] <malik__> !tv
[07:33] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[07:36] <no0b> man Im having problems setting the ktorrent too default program for downloading torrents, the torrents automatically download with bittorrent.
[07:36] <no0b> How do I change this?
[07:37] <Fahuadai> Is there a perference for ATI over nVidia regarding drivers?  I'm thinking about what card to get for my new machine. Going for SLI/Crossfire PCI-E cards.  Geforce7 series or something simular with ATI
[07:37] <no0b> about 2 hours too download 5 MB's @ 128kbs?
[07:38] <no0b> bit torrent is garbage
[07:39] <greg_g> no0b: right click on the .torrent file, click on the wrench icon next to the file type, there is a list of applications and preference order
[07:39] <greg_g> no0b: don't use it if you think it is garbage
[07:40] <BluesKaj> no0b, the client doesn't determine the speed unless the setup is problematic ...the sources determine the DL speeds
[07:40] <bipolar> no0b: either your ports are not forwarded correctly, or there are no seaders
[07:40] <bipolar> my guess is the latter
[07:41] <bipolar> Fahuadai: Nvidia. ATI's drivers are crap on linux
[07:41] <Kano_kubuntu> well you can use ati cards too..
[07:42] <Kano_kubuntu> just tested my fglrx install script on gutsy test 1
[07:42] <Fahuadai> thanks bipolar.  Is there support for SLI with nvidia on kubuntu?
[07:42] <bipolar> Fahuadai: yes
[07:42] <bipolar> Fahuadai: it's just an option in the config file
[07:43] <toniglandyl> hi
[07:43] <Fahuadai> Ok cool.
[07:43] <bipolar> Fahuadai: until you enable it, you might get some weirdness like booting on one video prot, and X showing up on another. :)
[07:43] <Kano_kubuntu> Fahuadai: do you use ati right now?
[07:44] <bipolar> I've been burned by ati drivers so many times it's not funny. I can never recomenend them and will never buy one ever again.
[07:45] <_4strO> ;)
[07:45] <Fahuadai> I've always used nvidia
[07:45] <Fahuadai> but still quite new to linux
[07:45] <toniglandyl> excuse me, but how can I make beryl load on startup ?
[07:46] <Fahuadai> I've always used AMD cpu's, and with AMD perchasing ATI not that long ago I was thikning about giving them a try
[07:46] <bipolar> toniglandyl: put the beryl manager in your startup folder :D
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> bipolar: recommend not, but they work with a single script...
[07:46] <no0b> oi I have no choice but too use it aye
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> Host/Kernel/OS  "ubuntu" running Linux 2.6.22-6-generic i686 [ Ubuntu gutsy (development branch) ] 
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> CPU Info        AMD Athlon XP 2800+ clocked at [ 2088.150 MHz ] 
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> Videocard       ATI Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]   X.Org 1.3.0  [ 1280x1024 @75hz ] 
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> Processes 101 | Uptime 17min | Memory 175.6/1011.4MB | HDD Size 80GB (0%used) | GLX Renderer RADEON 9800 PRO | GLX Version 2.0.6473 (8.37.6) | Client Konversation 1.0.1 | Infobash v2.65
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> binary driver just installed
[07:46] <Kano_kubuntu> live cd still
[07:46] <toniglandyl> bipolar, where is that folder ?
[07:47] <Jucato> !paste | Kano_kubuntu
[07:47] <ubotu> Kano_kubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:47] <Kano_kubuntu> not the ubunut method, the kanotix one ;)
[07:47] <Kano_kubuntu> bye
[07:48] <bipolar> toniglandyl: It was half a joke, but I think that kde will start things in the "Autostart" folder in your home directory. maybe it's .Autostart or something like that. I don't use it.
[07:48] <toniglandyl> oh ok. sorry, i'm totally new to all this :p
[07:50] <bipolar> toniglandyl: found it
[07:50] <bipolar> toniglandyl: it's ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:50] <Jucato> !autostart
[07:50] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:50] <bipolar> lol
[07:51] <bipolar> yeah, that.
[07:51] <no0b> thx guys
[07:51] <toniglandyl> thanks
[07:58] <ZanQdo> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[07:58] <ZanQdo> this sounds cool ^
[07:59] <DarkED> hey all
[07:59] <DarkED> how do i change the color of my desktop icons?
[07:59] <DarkED> er, fonts
[07:59] <DarkED> sorry
[07:59] <DarkED> they are black right now but i want to use a dark wallpaper so i need them white
[08:00] <mzanfardino> I work in an environement where the only printer is a shared resource on served by a windows xp box.  I've shared the printer and now want to attach to it.  I'm running kubuntu fiesty with cups installed, but I'm having some difficulties.  any suggests for a how-to?
[08:04] <stevec_> !cups
[08:04] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:06] <sparrw> [how]  can I make konqueror open .htm files as web pages from http:// sources, but in an editor from other sources?
[08:08] <VampBoi> My Kubuntu isn't giving power to my NIC it sees the NIC but no power to it.  Nic is a Tulip 3
[08:09] <user_> hello
[08:10] <sparrw> VampBoi: NICs get power straight from the pci bus, has nothing to do with the OS.  if the link lights dont work then its a hardware problem
[08:11] <OlliK> aziz
[08:11] <VampBoi> then why does it work fine in Knoppix?
[08:11] <VampBoi> and windows :S
[08:12] <hester> have locked adept database due to error in sources.list file. any ideas how to fix
[08:12] <ejortegau> hey
[08:12] <ejortegau> ssup
[08:13] <BluesKaj> hester, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:13] <BluesKaj> close adept first
[08:13] <DexterF> hi
[08:13] <ejortegau> question: i'm trying to deny access to a directory in apache2. i created a .htaccess on that dir, with directives deny from all and order deny, allow. still, users can get in. is there anything else i should do
[08:13] <bipolar> Can someone out there please ping dev.longbros.com and tell me what it resoves to?
[08:13] <DexterF> got a lil trouble running the korgac module and having it stay. shouldn't it be in kicker applets?
[08:14] <ZanQdo> whats the diference betwen Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 and Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2011
[08:14] <DexterF> ZanQdo: *that's* the difference. 3yr vs 5yr support
[08:14] <bipolar> ZanQdo: the 6.06 release is a long term support one.
[08:14] <ejortegau> 216.164.162.140
[08:14] <horstmachine> hi
[08:14] <ZanQdo> suport?
[08:14] <ZanQdo> what suport?
[08:14] <bipolar> ejortegau: thank you. something is fubard in my dns settings
[08:14] <ejortegau> bipolar: np
[08:15] <jhutchins_lt> sparrw: The link lights don't come on unless the drivers are successfully loaded.
[08:15] <DexterF> ZanQdo: like security updates, patches etc
[08:15] <ZanQdo> mmm
[08:15] <ejortegau> ZanQdo: support like free security updates via adept/apt-get/synaptic/whatever u like
[08:15] <ZanQdo> so they will stop the services for that version after a given number of years
[08:15] <sparrw> jhutchins: false.  link lights work even when the PC is turned off.  PCI trickle power is plenty, and every NIC that honors the PCI standard will use it
[08:16] <sparrw> jhutchins_lt: ^^
[08:16] <ZanQdo> I dont get it...
[08:16] <hester> BluesKaj, have done that, does not work. any other ideas
[08:17] <jhutchins_lt> sparrw: You may have one that works like that, but of the thousands of NIC's I've seen, most don't.  It's one of the ways you can tell if NIC is working.
[08:17] <BluesKaj> hester , is adept frozen ?
[08:17] <sparrw> jhutchins_lt: so most of your computers can't wake on lan?
[08:17] <ZanQdo> they are both free right?
[08:18] <ejortegau> ZanQdo: yes
[08:18] <ZanQdo> then why should I download ?
[08:18] <ZanQdo> I mean
[08:18] <ZanQdo> who
[08:19] <jhutchins_lt> sparrw: Not just my own, I've been a network engineer.  And no, most don't use wake-on-lan.
[08:19] <ZanQdo> he need to sleep I guess, loosing my english
[08:19] <hester> BluesKaj, no it gives a error saying the database is locked and I should use atp-setup or apt-get update in terminal which I hvae done. same result
[08:19] <ZanQdo> oh 7.04 is the new version with ntfs suport
[08:19] <ZanQdo> will get that one
[08:19] <Jucato> !adeptfix | hester
[08:19] <ubotu> hester: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:20] <Fahuadai> also check your process list, see if the apt process is still running. i've killed it and unlocked the DB before
[08:20] <jhutchins_lt> Fahuadai: That's what the fuser command is supposed to do, see who owns the lockfile.
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> !apt-fix
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> !aptfix
[08:21] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:21] <sparrw> jhutchins_lt: i didnt ask about use.  if what you say is true then most would not be capable of wake on lan.
[08:21] <jhutchins_lt> sparrw: Probably.  Never been an issue for the places I worked.
[08:22] <BluesKaj> ok hester , do you have any special repos for apps not available in the default sources list...I know it's usind a sledge to hammer a tack but if the prob persists maybe you should just replace the sources.list
[08:22] <sparrw> i dont think ive seen a non-HP computer without WoL in a decade
[08:22] <hester> ubuto, have done. does not work, still locked. weird
[08:22] <Fahuadai> Oh yeah.... Thats a cool and useful cmd.
[08:22] <Cavallek> is possible to rollback after upgrade ? :)
[08:22] <Fahuadai> Thank
[08:23] <jhutchins_lt> sparrw: I suspect you haven't seen many computers then.  Relatively.
[08:23] <VampBoi> so anyone have any ideas?
[08:23] <Fahuadai> Hester, ubuto is an AI bot.... he's kinda clever though. ;)
[08:23] <Fahuadai> !feed
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <DexterF> !korgac
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about korgac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <DexterF> damn
[08:23] <Fahuadai> ah... forgotten how to feed him hehehe
[08:23] <sparrw> jhutchins: considering my line of work, i would call your suspicion suspect  :)
[08:24] <sparrw> jhutchins_lt: ^^ (and your ghost is annoying)
[08:24] <DexterF> korgac won't show up here in the systray, no clue why. pointers?
[08:24] <sparrw> as is mine, im sure  :)
[08:24] <hester> BluesKaj, I deleted the broken sources.list file and replaced it with the old one, but the system somewhere registrers the old fault and does not read the update
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> sparrw: I think I've seen one PCI NIC with a WOL connection - but the motherboard didn't have a corresponding connector.
[08:24] <jhutchins_lt> I have a box full of carbus/pcmcia cards, all without WOL.
[08:25] <sparrw> very odd
[08:25] <BluesKaj> hester, have you deleted the data in the sources.list completely ?
[08:25] <Cavallek> Im getting white screen. How I can get to console ?
[08:25] <jhutchins_lt> If I connect this laptop to my switch, it won't light unless I load the drivers for the onboard nic.
[08:25] <sparrw> all 3 that ive got handy, 2 pci and 1 pcix, have WoL
[08:25] <sparrw> guess we shop different places
[08:25] <hester> BlueKaj, no, should I do tha?
[08:27] <Cavallek> Im getting white screen. How I can get to console ?
[08:31] <kim_> I got banned for saying you bastard onse... Is that right?
[08:34] <BluesKaj> hester yes , I've done it ...just open sources lista s root ..edit/select all , delete ,then replace with the text from sourc-o-matic : http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[08:36] <don> hello
[08:40] <hester> BluesKaj, Thanks will try.
[08:43] <jose__> hi
[08:44] <venik212> I heard that you can send files using GAIM (Yahoo protocol), but it seems not to work.
[08:44] <venik212> Can anyone help?
[08:44] <jhutchins_lt> venik212: Sorry, don't use gaim.
[08:45] <jhutchins_lt> venik212: A lot of systems are firewalled so that those file transfers and things like DCC won't work.
[08:45] <venik212> I tried it in Kopete, and no go there as well
[08:46] <jack-> ;x
[08:46] <jack-> someone tell this noob about annoyment
[08:47] <PriceChild> !away > [Selfsearcher] 
[08:47] <PriceChild> !noob | jack-
[08:47] <ubotu> jack-: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:48] <jack-> :)
[08:48] <Fahuadai> jfgi? never heard that one before....
[08:50] <Fahuadai> ahh... *has googled jfgi and was amused*
[08:51] <BluesKaj> just f***ing google it
[08:51] <DexterF> "noob" is not welcome *here*? :D
[08:51] <BluesKaj> bah
[08:52] <Gobsheene> Hi folks
[08:53] <Gobsheene> Does anyone know of a fairly good video editing prog for Kubuntu?
[08:53] <xman> Hello World :)
[08:53] <Gobsheene> and where I can get it?
[08:53] <jhutchins_lt> Gobsheene: avidemux, cinelerra (sp?)
[08:53] <BluesKaj> avidemux
[08:54] <Gobsheene> Will those let me edit mp4's?
[08:54] <jhutchins_lt> !info avidemux
[08:54] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[08:54] <Gobsheene> and indeed mpgs
[08:54] <jhutchins_lt> !info cinelerra
[08:54] <ubotu> Package cinelerra does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:54] <xman> Can i ask something here or should i ask somebody in particular ?
[08:55] <jhutchins_lt> !ask
[08:55] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:55] <bruno> hola
[08:55] <Gobsheene> guys cheers for the help !!! :P
[08:55] <xman> Who is broken: me or my computer ?
[08:55] <bruno> mi primera ves
[08:56] <bruno> nadie habla espaol?
[08:56] <Gobsheene> lol @ Xman, whats up man?
[08:56] <jhutchins_lt> !es | bruno
[08:56] <ubotu> bruno: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:56] <BluesKaj> xman, you expect an answer ? :)
[08:56] <xman> Here it comes !
[08:56] <bruno> gracias
[08:56] <xman> My PC is not "actually doing something"
[08:56] <Gobsheene> speaking as an admin in windows for a living,,, 99% of the time its the user! lol
[08:57] <Gobsheene> x ok.... start at the start
[08:57] <Gobsheene> the machine is powered off
[08:57] <xman> It just eats my cpu with god knows what ...
[08:57] <xman> No, i'm powered off :)
[08:57] <Gobsheene> it powers up yeah?
[08:57] <BluesKaj> the suspense is killing me ....  :)
[08:58] <Gobsheene> lol the sarcasim is rife :P
[08:58] <xman> Can you imagine that copying a file eats 100% CPU ?
[08:58] <xman> I copy something from a to b
[08:58] <xman> BOOM
[08:58] <xman> 100%
[08:58] <jhutchins_lt> xman: Try using top to see what's using it.
[08:58] <xman> Nothing
[08:59] <xman> 1-2 apps up to 12-15%
[08:59] <xman> I can't get Linux to be "FAST" on this PC
[08:59] <xman> I'm trying since 6-7 years but no way ...
[09:00] <xman> Back and forth, back and forth ...
[09:00] <Gobsheene> what spec is the pc?
[09:00] <xman> Get this: cpu 1.1GHz duron, yeah, old fart
[09:00] <xman> 256Mb main mem
[09:01] <xman> 200Gb 8Mb cache Seagate 7200.8
[09:01] <xman> 600+ swap
[09:01] <Gobsheene> hmmm
[09:01] <Gobsheene> much better than mine anyhow...
[09:01] <Gobsheene> have you tried a reinstalation using the minimumsetting?
[09:01] <BluesKaj> wow , big drive small mem
[09:02] <xman> Now what really boggles me is that XP on this config runs like greased
[09:02] <Gobsheene> someof the other guys might help you more
[09:02] <Gobsheene> well my machine is a P3 600mhz 288mb Ram 12GB hdd...
[09:02] <Gobsheene> and Kubuntu runs Very well (Y)
[09:02] <Fahuadai> gobsheene: awww. cutie!
[09:02] <xman> I've used distros from like 2k onwards and i know some *nux stuff
[09:03] <Gobsheene> lol yes its my old old old oooooooooooooooold laptop
[09:03] <Fahuadai> this an amd sempron 3000+ 512MB
[09:03] <xman> But this machine is really getting to me ...
[09:03] <Gobsheene> buy a new machine :>
[09:03] <Fahuadai> xman: tried other distros?
[09:04] <Fahuadai> gentoo/slack/suse etc?
[09:04] <xman> Imagine, i get to copy to my USB stick at about 40K-200someK with 100% cpu
[09:04] <xman> cursor allmost stuck
[09:04] <xman> wtf ?
[09:04] <Gobsheene> xman... i've had problems trying to run on a Celeron processor in the past
[09:04] <xman> all distros, same distros ..
[09:04] <Gobsheene> is this just happening on USB??????????
[09:04] <xman> i've ran 'nux since 2.2
[09:04] <gdiebel> xman: what does top tell you?
[09:04] <Fahuadai> he said any file copy eats cpu
[09:04] <xman> Get this
[09:05] <xman> K3B writes CD/DVD at 4-8Mb/sec with 1% CPU
[09:05] <BluesKaj> xman, there is something defintely amiss with your install..Kubuntu should run fine on that machine
[09:05] <xman> but a lame copy of a random file - BOOM
[09:05] <xman> It's my machine
[09:06] <xman> I feel it in my bones
[09:06] <xman> But how do i find out what ?
[09:06] <xman> How do i make it work ?
[09:06] <Fahuadai> have any file corruptions or data loss?
[09:06] <xman> Nope !
[09:06] <xman> Check this out
[09:07] <Fahuadai> Got spare hardware to test individual parts with?
[09:07] <xman> Mobo: Abit KT7A
[09:07] <xman> A known problemmaker since back in the days ...
[09:07] <xman> I don't have spare parts
[09:07] <xman> I can't really afford a new PC right now ...
[09:08] <Fahuadai> was going to suggest seeing if you had same problem with a different hdd.
[09:08] <xman> I had 3 HDDs since and same prob ...
[09:08] <gdiebel> xman: try posting your "lspci -v" and "lsusb -v"
[09:08] <xman> where ?
[09:08] <xman> here ?
[09:08] <gdiebel> !paste
[09:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:08] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[09:09] <drarem> i'm no expert, but what prob was that xman
[09:09] <jhutchins_lt> xman: What are you using to copy the file? cp?
[09:09] <xman> lspci -v
[09:09] <xman> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]  (rev 03)
[09:09] <xman>         Subsystem: ABIT Computer Corp. KT7/KT7-RAID/KT7A/KT7A-RAID Mainboard
[09:09] <xman>         Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 8
[09:09] <xman>         Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M] 
[09:10] <gdiebel> xman: refer to line about pastebin above
[09:10] <xman> yeah, i guess i'm blind
[09:10] <xman> sorry people, really
[09:11] <xman> i do have baad eyes tho
[09:12] <jhutchins_lt> xman: So get yer screen out of 2040x1186 mode.
[09:12] <xman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24616/
[09:12] <xman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24616/ ?
[09:12] <xman> 2040*1186 ?
[09:12] <xman> huh ?
[09:13] <xman> 1152*864 @ 85 here
[09:14] <jhutchins> xman: And you wonder why you can't read the text.
[09:14] <eaglehawk> hello everybody
[09:14] <jhutchins> xman: jk.
[09:14] <xman> HP P1230
[09:14] <xman> 21"
[09:14] <jhutchins> xman: Seriously, what are you using to copy files?
[09:14] <eaglehawk> anybody who can helpme with blocked port 80
[09:15] <jhutchins> xman: No wonder you can't afford spare hardware.
[09:15] <xman> kde/gnome/mc/cp whatever
[09:15] <xman> same result ...
[09:15] <xman> hey, second-hand unit
[09:15] <jhutchins> xman: Seriously, cp goes to 100%?  What if you run it in pure console mode without X running?
[09:15] <Fahuadai> anyone recommend a graphical system monitor tool, which shows cpu temp/cpu load/ mem useage?
[09:15] <xman> i bought it some 2-3 years ago for $190
[09:16] <jhutchins> Fahuadai: gkrellm
[09:16] <xman> jhutchins, same thing
[09:16] <jhutchins> xman: RAM?
[09:16] <xman> krells, i like krells
[09:16] <eaglehawk> anybody who can helpme with blocked port 80
[09:16] <jhutchins> eaglehawk: Help you how?
[09:16] <xman> 2x128Mb SDram 133
[09:17] <DarkED> hey all, what's the package name for flash9 in the repos?
[09:17] <DarkED> flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:17] <jhutchins> xman: You may want to run memcheck overnight on 'em.
[09:17] <eaglehawk> well i am able to use xchat to talk in irc but cannot browse
[09:17] <xman> WHY ?
[09:17] <jhutchins> xman: Find a lightweight CD to test alternate systems with it.
[09:17] <xman> LIKE ?
[09:17] <DarkED> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[09:17] <jhutchins> xman: 'cause if cp is havig the same problem it's likely to be a hardware issue.
[09:18] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:18] <xman> I know it's a hardware issue
[09:18] <jhutchins> xman: It's possible there's something wrong with the chipset drivers.
[09:18] <xman> You think ?
[09:18] <jhutchins> xman: Memcheck would be easy to do.
[09:18] <xman> i'd ssay the hardware
[09:19] <xman> i did memcheck from the boot CD
[09:19] <jhutchins> It's worth trying things like tomsrtbt or knoppix, see if things are different.
[09:19] <xman> with fedora too
[09:19] <jhutchins> xman: Right, it checked ok?
[09:19] <xman> Install or live, no change
[09:19] <jhutchins> xman: Are the disks in good shape, fsck ok?
[09:19] <xman> is it some IRQ conflict ?
[09:19] <xman> Yup, disks OK
[09:19] <jhutchins> xman: Probably not IRQ.
[09:20] <jhutchins> xman: Do you have a seperate controller?
[09:20] <xman> I did some "tests" with even ext2 as a FS to see if faster, guess what: NO
 well i am able to use xchat to talk in irc but cannot browse as I get TIMEOUT server respond...I think it is because port 80 is blocked on my side...is there a way to redirect the browser to anyother port so i can browse the web
[09:20] <BluesKaj> Dark ' flash player'
[09:20] <xman> As my mobo saw only upto 127Gb i bought an ITE8212
[09:20] <ubuntu__> hello, Is there a way in  Kubuntu to safely remove a printer?
[09:21] <xman> But i had the same issue previously
[09:21] <xman> So what's with my mobo ?
[09:21] <jhutchins> xman: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html or http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance might be helpful.
[09:22] <xman> EIDE mode 5 now and ever
[09:22] <xman> not some dma problem
[09:22] <gdiebel> xman: also try "sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda" where sda is your hard drive and paste it
[09:22] <jhutchins> eaglehawk: There are proxy servers running on alternate ports that you can use, that's about the only way around it.
[09:22] <jhutchins> eaglehawk: Consider that if port 80 is blocked and you subvert the blocking, you may get into some serious trouble.
 will codeen network proxies do the trick
[09:23] <ubuntu__> How do you safely remove a printer with Kubuntu?
[09:23] <jhutchins> ubuntu__: Unplug it, pick it up, carry it off.
[09:24] <xman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24619/
[09:24] <Gobsheene> ... my Adpet Manager has descided that something else is using the adept service :(
[09:25] <Gobsheene> but as far as I can see... notthing is
[09:25] <xman> Maybe some bios settings ?
[09:25] <Gobsheene> *using the packaging system database
[09:25] <jhutchins> !aptfix | Gobsheene
[09:25] <ubotu> Gobsheene: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:26] <gdiebel> xman: also in regards to your concern about slow copy to usb stick, that fits since your usb is only 1.1
[09:26] <Gobsheene> Ahhhh would a database lock cause this program then?
[09:26] <Gobsheene> (Y) Excelent i'll try that
[09:26] <jhutchins> Gobsheene: Yes.
[09:26] <xman> Yeah, OK, 1.1
[09:26] <xman> but 100% CPU
[09:27] <xman> and it goes for another minute or so after the copy has finished ?
[09:27] <xman> Call me crazy and feed me prozac
[09:27] <gdiebel> xman start copying something and paste your 'ps aux'
[09:28] <Gobsheene> Jhutchins... that seems to have done sometihng alright lol
[09:28] <BluesKaj> dunno if this relavent, but the HDD is 7200 rpm on a mobo that was designed 5400 rpm hdd
[09:28] <Gobsheene> Blue... chances are that that HDD may only run at a max of 5400 in that case :)
[09:29] <Gobsheene> I may be wrong though
[09:29] <jhutchins> Gobsheene: Unlikely.
[09:29] <jhutchins> Gobsheene: Speed is up to the drive, not the controller.
[09:29] <BluesKaj> wouldn't ti still tax some CPU resources
[09:29] <BluesKaj> it
[09:29] <xman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24621/
[09:29] <xman> using krusader
[09:29] <jhutchins> It's a point though that if the drive is flooding the controller it could cause a slowdown.
[09:29] <Gobsheene> hutchins... ah, every day is a schoolday!
[09:30] <BluesKaj> sort of bottleneck in the stream
[09:31] <Gobsheene> jhutchins, would that command you gave me kick off any of the updates that had been scheduled before/while the Adept DB was locked?
[09:31] <gdiebel> xman: not sure if you tried this yet: 'sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/sda'
[09:31] <jhutchins> xman: It's possible that you could play around with hdparm and find something that helps, but you might also look into getting an IDE controller card, see what that does.
[09:31] <xman> What thruotput do you guys get on copy and with what cpu burnrate ?
[09:31] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i upgrade to 7.10 alfa  ?
[09:31] <jhutchins> Gobsheene: No, it just removes the lockfile.
[09:32] <xman> HDD using ide  mode 5 AKA DMA100 for real.
[09:32] <Gobsheene> ok, its just running certain things :)
[09:32] <Gobsheene> ksysguard
[09:32] <xman> I allready have a good IDE cntrlr and the problem shows with/without it
[09:33] <jhutchins> xman: It's possible that there is a setting that is not what you think the optimum should be, but actually works better.
[09:33] <BluesKaj> Gobsheene, now do yer sudo apt-get update ...you should be ok
[09:33] <Gobsheene> thanks blue :)
[09:33] <xman> jhutchins: Which one ?
[09:33] <jhutchins> xman: So onboard, offboard, you've tried both.
[09:33] <xman> YUP
[09:33] <jhutchins> xman: You'll have to experiment.
[09:33] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i install gutsy alpha ?
[09:33] <payam> hi
[09:34] <xman> Yeah, 6 years of it
[09:34] <payam> I wana inslatt my Camera on Kubuntu
[09:34] <xman> I'm tired
[09:34] <payam> How should i do that?
[09:34] <xman> And i have other things to do with the $ than buy a new machine ...
[09:34] <jhutchins> I can copy large video files around without any problems on a 1.8GHz AMD that's... Oh, that's right, replaced last year.
[09:35] <jhutchins> I had bad capacitors on my K7M.
[09:35] <xman> At how many Mb/ssec and cpu usage ?
[09:35] <jhutchins> Same CPU though.
[09:35] <BluesKaj> !gutsygibbon | pvandewyngaerde
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gutsygibbon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <jhutchins> xman: Too fast to check.
[09:35] <xman> Damn !
[09:35] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu 7.10
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu 7.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <xman> 1.2 Gb took rouhly 1Hr
[09:35] <jhutchins> xman: Is this only drive-to-drive or is it samedrive too?
[09:36] <xman> Drive2drive, drive/samedrive - same
[09:36] <jhutchins> xman: Shoot, I can do 1.2G over my lan faster than that.
[09:36] <xman> I did esperiment
[09:36] <xman> i can't get past 4Mb/sec at 100% cpu
[09:36] <drarem> for developing gui apps, is the general consensus to use kdevelop / Qt ?
[09:37] <xman> and XP did it at 35-45Mb/sec
[09:37] <jhutchins> xman: Check your cables too.
[09:37] <xman> Can you feel my wrath ?
[09:37] <xman> I did replace'em
[09:37] <jhutchins> replace != check
[09:37] <xman> HUH ?
[09:38] <BluesKaj> pvandewyngaerde, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/kubuntu/dvd/current/
[09:38] <pvandewyngaerde> BluesKaj: can't i just upgrade ?
[09:38] <payam> Do you know how i can instala a webcam to my kubuntu?
[09:38] <xman> same hardware: XP-max45Mb/sec@max40%cpu      "nux-4Mb/sec@100%cpu
[09:38] <gdiebel> xman: is your kernel giving errors? paste 'tail -n100 /var/log/messages
[09:39] <payam> Do you know how i can instala a webcam to my kubuntu?
[09:39] <Gobsheene> jhutchins, sorry to bug you again man, but that command is still running...
[09:39] <payam> Do you know how i can instala a webcam to my kubuntu?
[09:39] <BluesKaj> payam, plug it in and see what happens
[09:39] <xman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24624/
[09:39] <payam> nothing happens
[09:40] <BluesKaj> then look for the drivers and install them
[09:41] <xman> The nice thing about "nux is thet with/without net it's just as smooth (unlike XP)
[09:41] <xman> Trouble for me, smooth as an 386
[09:41] <xman> Any kernel, hw guru around ?
[09:42] <xman> I asked same question on forums since ages
[09:42] <xman> All i've got was dodged answers
[09:42] <xman> Like: you are sure you use DMA ?
[09:43] <xman> Yeah, well, like since 10 yrs ago ...
[09:43] <xman> But how do you explain this ?
[09:44] <eean> is it possible to remove Amarok without removing kubuntu-desktop?
[09:44] <eean> (I'm installing Amarok from source)
[09:44] <xman> 4-8 Mb/sec@2-5% cpu on burning2disk ?
[09:44] <gdiebel> xman: don't mean to impose, but if you have been dealing with these issues for up to 10 years, perhaps you should consider a new box, one can be found for around 200 dollars
[09:44] <jhutchins> xman: cp 832MB file:
[09:44] <jhutchins> 0.04user 6.24system 0:46.21elapsed 13PU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k
[09:44] <jhutchins> 0inputs+0outputs (4major+230minor)pagefaults 0swaps
[09:44] <xman> I haven't used linux all the time for this long
[09:44] <BluesKaj> payam, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410792
[09:45] <xman> just playing with it
[09:45] <xman> just lately switched 100%
[09:45] <morla> Hi there. Does someone here have a Canon PIXMA IP 3300 printer?
[09:45] <gdiebel> xman: is there anything unusual with: 'cat /var/log/messages|grep sda' ?
[09:45] <xman> so the problem was not stringent
[09:46] <jhutchins> xman: You could probably get a newer MB for that chip pretty cheap.
[09:46] <Gobsheene> Guys.... my adpet problem is fixed!!!
[09:46] <Gobsheene> thanks soo much!!
[09:46] <Gobsheene> adept**
[09:46] <xman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24626/
[09:46] <morla> I bought it today, it doesnt print. The LED signalls some warning, but I dont know what it means. The manual can only be read in windows and OSX
[09:47] <xman> It's not worth it to upgrade. I better buy a new PC
[09:47] <Siggimund> Hi there - when some body got the time . Just swicthed to kde instead of gnome. Auto mounting ntfs (ro) drives are they disabled in krusader as aposed to Gnome/ubuntu?
[09:47] <xman> Just that for the moment (next months, like 6) my $ is channeled elsewhere
[09:48] <xman> You know, like life ...
[09:48] <BluesKaj> morla, did you try to run the printer wizard in system settings/printers ?
[09:48] <morla> BluesKaj: yep, of course :) I made it use Gutenprint's IP4000 driver, linuxprinting sais it works.
[09:49] <morla> BluesKaj: it seems there is an other problem, it doesnt suck in paper. instead i get a flashing red light
[09:50] <acemo> kopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this?
[09:50] <BluesKaj> ok morla , i had to ask...try unplugging the printer power cord after turning it off , then on again ...it just might need a reset.
[09:51] <sourcemaker> hi at all
[09:51] <BluesKaj> the try the testprint again
[09:51] <jhutchins> xman: Seriously, $10/$20 on ebay.  I'm gettin' 133MB/sec.
[09:51] <payam> hi to alla NOT at all
[09:51] <morla> BluesKaj: hm I'll try that. Do you own a PIXMA class printer? Do you know what the button on the front does?
[09:51] <sourcemaker> are you using KDE 3.5.6 or 3.5.7?
[09:52] <acemo> sourcemaker: 3.5.6
[09:52] <BluesKaj> morla, no but i've gone thru a few printers in my time and they all  usually act the same way
[09:52] <xman> jhutchins: EBAY? No such thing here, but for $25-30 i could get such mobo ...
[09:52] <xman> But what would be the point ?
[09:53] <xman> To get another "junk" PC around ?
[09:53] <morla> BluesKaj: ok. It's just that some thing are a mistery to me, but without windows I cannot read the manual!
[09:53] <BluesKaj> morla , press it and see what happens
[09:54] <morla> BluesKaj: nothing.. I believe it could be the "suck-paper-in" button, but nothing happenes.. Maybe there is something wrong with the paper tray
[09:54] <sourcemaker> How can I download youtube videos? I have tried a mozilla plugin, but it is not working very well ???
[09:54] <xman> I planned on getting meself a brand new A64X2@4600+@2Gb RAM but it'' have to wait ...
[09:55] <acemo> kopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this? havent tried file transfers.. but amsn works perfectly with cam (besides the fact auto coloring aint working)
[09:55] <xman> Untill then, i'll have to develop some patience, patience, patience
[09:56] <acemo> xman: maybe the amd quad core are out by that time, could be nice to keep an eye on that.. would be a waste buying A64X2@4600+ a week before the quad cores come out
[09:57] <jhutchins> xman: Get a different MB, if that solves your problem sell the problem MB.
[09:57] <xman> Yeah, well, i'll allready wait like 6 months so ...
[09:57] <tarzeau> sledge: who are the morons ruining debian?
[09:57] <jhutchins> xman: Worth your time to triple your speed.
[09:57] <acemo> xman: i dont mean wait 2-3 months for it..
[09:58] <acemo> xman: just when u got the money.. check for any news/rumors about when there supposed to get released and then decide if its worth the waiting
[09:58] <jhutchins> I guess I got a pretty good price on this kw7, they're not cheap.
[09:58] <xman> jhutchins: I would rather burn the darn thing than even giving it for free
[09:58] <BluesKaj> tarzeau,  know it all snobs with no time for probs ...the std response there is read the manpages ..I went thru it too :)
[09:58] <xman> I do not give defective stuff
[09:59] <xman> acemo: a 4600+ is allmost $200 here NOW
[09:59] <jhutchins> xman: Not having good linux drivers != defective.  Useless maybe.
[09:59] <null_kuhl> guys i have just installed linuxant driver loader for wlan driver on linux,, everything isfine and after loading my wlan windows drivers i have this msgs  Kernel module ipw3945 overridden by netw39x5. where ipw is the linux driver and netw39x5 is the windows one , how to fix this ? plz helpppp
[09:59] <xman> Yeah, well, it broke 2 HDDs untill now ...
[10:01] <xman> 1 Quantum Fireball 8G that worked fine on a previous K6-2 board
[10:01] <xman> And Another 20Gb Fireball 7K2 RPM later
[10:01] <null_kuhl> guys hello
[10:01] <xman> Such is life ....
[10:02] <jhutchins> xman: Fix it or quitcherbitchin.
[10:02] <xman> Besides getting a new one ?
[10:02] <xman> How ?
[10:03] <acemo> kopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this? havent tried file transfers.. but amsn works perfectly with cam
[10:03] <xman> That's why i'm here
[10:03] <rolnxyz_> acemo: and kopete doesn't send emoticons
[10:04] <xman> Maybe someone knows something on how to workaround or something about this issue
[10:04] <acemo> rolnxyz_: kopete sends emoticons perfectly here
[10:04] <rolnxyz_> what
[10:04] <rolnxyz_> must be a new feature
[10:05] <rolnxyz_> yep May 25 2007
[10:05] <rolnxyz_> finaly, I don't know what took so long
[10:06] <acemo> rolnxyz_: i mean emoticons work.. dun know bout custom icons.. but why im writing my problem is because cam and file transfers used to work perfectly
[10:12] <Kobalts> I got a Segmentation fault (core dumped) ... anyone know where the core file is saved to?
[10:13] <payam> What shoul i do for  install a webcam on mu kubuntu?
[10:21] <ubuntu__> espaoles ak?
[10:22] <ardchoille> !es
[10:22] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:23] <ubuntu__> gracias
[10:23] <acemo> kopete often doesnt lets me see or send webcam, also file transfers are getting killed half way often, anyone knows what could cause this, and how to fix it?
[10:26] <deminemi> does anyone know of any good mailing lists or forums for comedi/RTAI ?
[10:28] <jrick> Is anyone familiar with using Mailody (www.mailody.net)?  I have a problem with it and SMTP and would like some help.
[10:29] <jrick> www.mailody.net
[10:30] <jrick> I have an email account on Runbox, but i cannot get SMTP to send any mails with it at all.
[10:30] <monfis> som tu jacy polacy
[10:31] <null_kuhl> guys i have just installed linuxant driver loader for wlan driver on linux,, everything isfine and after loading my wlan windows drivers i have this msgs  Kernel module ipw3945 overridden by netw39x5. where ipw is the linux driver and netw39x5 is the windows one , how to fix this ? plz helpppp
[10:31] <jrick> It works in KMail, but I don't like kmail's imap support.
[10:31] <null_kuhl> any ideA ??
[10:32] <monfis> polakw gdzie znajde
[10:32] <acemo> !pl
[10:32] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[10:34] <monfis> dzienki
[10:43] <NecroAd> Trying to install a program called "sauerbraten" -- and when I type ./sauerbraten_unix like it tells me to do in the konsole, I get this error: "./bin_unix/linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[10:43] <NecroAd> Any help..?
[10:43] <bbeck_> I was wondering if anyone knew how to save the text position for the toolbar in kate.  I can set it, but when I reenter the program the defaults are set.
[10:44] <khaije1> !nwn
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nwn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <khaije1> NecroAd: i'm not sure what the issue is w/ that but i'm having trouble running a game also
[10:46] <deminemi> necro, my guess is that you don't have that library image, you should probably google around, or look at documentation
[10:46] <deminemi> see where you can get it
[10:46] <acemo> khaije1: neverwinternights? it runs on wine quite well here..
[10:46] <NecroAd> Reet, I'll look it up
[10:46] <deminemi> <3 google
[10:46] <NecroAd> Haha, indeed
[10:46] <khaije1> acemo: i've never needed to do that before though, not only that but i use amd64 so i'm not even sure that wine is an option for me
[10:47] <zug_> salut tout le monde
[10:47] <zug_> besoin d'aide !
[10:48] <acemo> khaije1: idk then.. sowwy
[10:48] <khaije1> i would play all the time, and i'm not really sure what changed frankly
[10:48] <khaije1> do you play acemo?
[10:50] <acemo> used to.. but i never really understood the dice stuff.. (1d6 for attack, i always thinking that was a bug in my pirated version..), ill prolly start playing again if i can get the original cd sometime..
[10:50] <khaije1> thats just one dice with six sides
[10:51] <khaije1> so up to 6, and as low as 1, 3d4 would mean as low as 3 and as high as 12
[10:51] <acemo> khaije1: yeah.. i know now since a mate of me showed me a users book from D&D3.5 but it was quite confusing for me back then ^^
[10:51] <khaije1> then you can figure the avg's
[10:51] <khaije1> ah yes indeed :-)
[10:52] <acemo> dont got much time for playing games lately tho..
[10:52] <acemo> i got the crazy idea to create my own game few weeks ago.. spending all my free time in it so far.. managed to get a little chat client so far ^^
[10:53] <leiar> A programme I want to install demands libc6 >=2.4-1, my version of libc6 is 1.4. How do I meet these demands?
[10:53] <khaije1> acemo: oh cool, what genre?
[10:53] <NecroAd> Oh dear, I got my sauerbraten game to work... with 2 fps : S
[10:54] <acemo> khaije1: thinking of a mmorpg.. probably 45% view (diagonal from top)
[10:56] <acemo> khaije1: probably mideival times or such.. i love the dungeons and dragons style stuff.. too bad its lisenced tho..
[10:58] <deminemi> nice :)
[10:59] <acemo> the game will be totaly platform independent, using Java and OpenGL.. thinking of using QT for Java.. think its worth it?
[11:01] <maddops770> Afternoon
[11:02] <acemo> afternoon maddops
[11:02] <alan_saskatoon> hi
[11:02] <] {ittisa] {> exit
[11:03] <] {ittisa] {> newbie
[11:03] <] {ittisa] {> hello all
[11:03] <Solifugus> I installed the KDE4 packages from Adept and rebooted but everything looks the same.. What am I missing?
[11:03] <jhutchins> Solifugus: It'll crash, wait for it.
[11:03] <deminemi> lol
[11:03] <acemo> solifugus: you need to add kde4 as a possible session first
[11:03] <Solifugus> jhutchins: Thus why I installed it in a VM
[11:03] <deminemi> do the boot-up options tell which gui to load?
[11:04] <Solifugus> acemo: how can i do that?
[11:04] <acemo> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php see here for instructions
[11:04] <acemo> it crashes for me tho
[11:04] <ahmed>  rmmod -v ipw3945
[11:04] <ahmed> ERROR: Module ipw3945 does not exist in /proc/modules
[11:04] <ahmed> guys pls help
[11:05] <Solifugus> acemo: thanks
[11:05] <maddops770> how many rookies and how many seasoned vets of kubuntu are there here?
[11:05] <maddops770> Rookie
[11:05] <alan_saskatoon> does anyone know about Kate templates?
[11:05] <deminemi> how do you categorize rookie and seasoned vet ?
[11:06] <maddops770> rookie brand new to less than a month.
[11:06] <acemo> Solifugus: let me know if it works for you
[11:06] <maddops770> In linux.  Vets are linux users for long time.
[11:06] <deminemi> i'm right around a month, to linux in general, so i will say rookie :)
[11:06] <keith_> is there a ready to install G++ language to be used with Zope/Plone
[11:06] <alan_saskatoon> linuxbomb: Vet (1997) Kubuntu (rookie)
[11:07] <maddops770> I like kubuntu much better than ubuntu, considering that kubuntu actually runs on my box.
[11:07] <ahmed> rmmod ipw3945 ,  ERROR: Module ipw3945 does not exist in /proc/modules GUYS PLZZ HELPPP
[11:08] <maddops770> ahmed what are you trying to install?
[11:08] <deminemi> rmmod = remove module ?
[11:08] <ahmed> ndiswrapper..
[11:08] <ahmed> i installed it
[11:08] <ahmed> but now i can modeprobe it
[11:08] <maddops770> ah.  Then it would mean that ipw3945 wouldn't be in that directory.
[11:08] <ahmed> cause the old driver (restricted one )
[11:09] <maddops770> Right?
[11:09] <ahmed> isstill theere
[11:09] <ahmed> though i disabled it from restriced driver manager
[11:09] <ahmed> yea
[11:10] <ahmed> soo wat now
[11:10] <deminemi> sudo rm =D
[11:11] <maddops770> So I've got a question to anyone who might know.  I've tried KMplayer, Mplayer, Kaffiene and none of them seem to like my DVDs.  Any ideas?
[11:11] <keith_> I am looking for a Umbuto G++ that could be installed wtih Adept
[11:12] <maddops770> Nothing in Adept Manager?
[11:12] <keith_> nope
[11:12] <acemo> maddops770: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[11:12] <maddops770> I see 9 compilers in *MY* Adept manager.
[11:12] <keith_> are they G++
[11:13] <maddops770> Gotcha.  Special flavor.
[11:13] <keith_> or I guess it is also called GNC c++
[11:13] <maddops770> Thanks Acemo!
[11:13] <maddops770> Then I see 4 of them.
[11:13] <keith_> are they list under Developement
[11:14] <acemo> maddops770: youre welcome, since youre quite a bit new to kubuntu, might be an idea to bookmark ubuntuguide.org, its a great resource for how to install alot of stuff
[11:14] <jhutchins> !find g++
[11:14] <ubotu> Found: abiword-gnome, abiword-plugins, abiword-plugins-gnome, akode-dbg, akregator (and 7073 others)
[11:14] <jhutchins> !info g++
[11:14] <ubotu> g++: The GNU C++ compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB
[11:14] <keith_> ok am trying now
[11:15] <jhutchins> keith_: I'm thinking you'll want build_essentials or something though.
[11:15] <keith_> wow where did you find that, i did that search you suggested and got nothing
[11:16] <intelikey> did find / -exec touch '{}' \;   and got many thousand errors   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37264
[11:16] <keith_> I am trying to install Zope/Plone and says   it needs G++ installed
[11:16] <intelikey> !build_essential
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build_essential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <intelikey> !b-e
[11:16] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:16] <nahemoth> hi guys I am trying to change something
[11:16] <nahemoth> <Action shortcut="Down" name="volume_decrease" />
[11:16] <nahemoth> in this line
[11:17] <nahemoth> instead of Down
[11:17] <maddops770> hmmm.  Guess I don't have debhelper for fakeroot
[11:17] <nahemoth> I wanna make it "scroll down"
[11:17] <nahemoth> but dunno what to write
[11:17] <nahemoth> you have any idea?
[11:18] <acemo> License Pricing (per developer)
[11:18] <acemo> One Platform	 1420
[11:18] <acemo> Two Platforms	 2130
[11:18] <acemo> Three Platforms	 2840
[11:18] <acemo> ok..bad idea to even think about using Qt for my game :|
[11:19] <maddops770> !fakeroot
[11:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fakeroot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:19] <keith_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:19] <keith_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:19] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | keith
[11:19] <ubotu> keith: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:20] <katyb> hello
[11:20] <keith_> hahah I guess you need to have atleast half a brain, I still had it open searching for the program
[11:20] <jhutchins> intelikey: That's at least three today.
[11:21] <intelikey> jhutchins ?
[11:22] <intelikey> jhutchins an update gone soure ?
[11:22] <jhutchins> Nah, I think that's pretty par for the course.
[11:22] <intelikey> jhutchins three what then ?   i'm not sure i fillow
[11:23] <intelikey> follow even
[11:23] <jhutchins> Three invocations of adeptfix.  (Though this one was an open program.)
[11:24] <saber_> hi
[11:24] <intelikey> oh yeah.  it's very "par for the course" indeed.
[11:24] <saber_> i need some arabic fonts
[11:25] <saber_> no one seems to answer me
[11:25] <jhutchins> !fonts
[11:25] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:25] <keith_> hey really thank you for the help, Zope/Plone are installing great now
[11:26] <saber_> i have a serious problem with my mp3
[11:27] <saber_> i can play the english files but the arabic file names can't be displayed
[11:27] <saber_> any ideas
[11:27] <intelikey> i'm still getting insmod errors from that command.......
[11:28] <lwizardl> hi
[11:28] <intelikey> saber__  xfonts-intl-arabic - International fonts for X -- Arabic
[11:28] <intelikey> that installed  ?
[11:29] <monfis> zbanowali mnie
[11:29] <saber__> i don't know this is the first time i install kubuntu
[11:30] <intelikey> you might try installing it and see.  it may not help but it can't hurt.
[11:30] <intelikey> !info xfonts-intl-arabic
[11:30] <ubotu> xfonts-intl-arabic: International fonts for X -- Arabic. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB
[11:31] <saber__> plz tell me how to get and install it
[11:31] <intelikey> package manager
[11:31] <saber__> k i will try now thanx
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:32] <intelikey> devfs_register(cub): could not append to parent, err: -17
[11:40] <StErGi0s> hello, how can i play .avi ?
[11:40] <rodrigo> hello
[11:41] <rodrigo> hellou?
[11:41] <rodrigo> hola
[11:41] <rodrigo> bonjour?
[11:41] <rodrigo> any one is there?
[11:41] <StErGi0s> yeah
[11:41] <StErGi0s> but i doubt i could help
[11:41] <rodrigo> Im a newby in kunbunt
[11:41] <StErGi0s> newbie here
[11:41] <rodrigo> kubuntu
[11:41] <StErGi0s> me too..
[11:42] <rodrigo> I need help!!!!!!!!!!1
[11:42] <rodrigo> lol
[11:42] <StErGi0s> lol
[11:42] <rodrigo> I feel like a poor naked child
[11:42] <rodrigo> with this kubuntu stuff
[11:42] <StErGi0s> what is it aboutr?
[11:42] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: Post the details of your problem, and if someone who knows something about it sees them, they may reply.
[11:42] <rodrigo> thanks
[11:42] <rodrigo> Jhutchis
[11:42] <rodrigo> well
[11:43] <rodrigo> let start for the beginning
[11:43] <rodrigo> Im not a programmer
[11:43] <rodrigo> Im an digital artist
[11:43] <saber__> eazy gys go and install vlc
[11:43] <rodrigo> but I didn't wanted to have piraty in my pc
[11:43] <saber__> vlc player will do it for you
[11:43] <rodrigo> so I changed to linux
[11:43] <rodrigo> I have heard that is the best OS out there
[11:44] <rodrigo> One friend install kubuntu for me
[11:44] <saber__> from add/remove progs   in multimedia find vlc player and install it
[11:44] <rodrigo> I have check out the software for kubuntu
[11:44] <rodrigo> but
[11:44] <rodrigo> and here it goes the bad things
[11:45] <rodrigo> the kaffiene player doesnt' worl
[11:45] <rodrigo> work
[11:45] <saber__> how
[11:45] <rodrigo> the gimp
[11:45] <rodrigo> is very different from photoshop
[11:45] <saber__> ya
[11:45] <StErGi0s> saber__: it wonrt play avi though i think it needs some codecs
[11:45] <adaptr> rodrigo did you come to complain ?
[11:46] <rodrigo> no
[11:46] <saber__> i use vlc player to play avi movies
[11:46] <rodrigo> I came here for help
[11:46] <saber__> it works fine for me
[11:46] <StErGi0s> without any codecs?
[11:46] <_4strO> !codecs
[11:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:46] <silver2> hi
[11:46] <saber__> and i use it also to play mp3 songs
[11:46] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: I haven't been able to get kaffeine to work for years.
[11:47] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: I use kmplayer
[11:47] <saber__> yes noooooooooooooooo codecs
[11:47] <silver2> i have pppoe problem
[11:47] <saber__> the vlc installs the codecs
[11:47] <saber__> try it and let me know
[11:47] <silver2> ppoe problem after reboot comupter doenst connect to internet
[11:47] <rodrigo> kmplayer?
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: There is a variant on the gimp called gimpshop that has a more photoshop like interface.
[11:48] <StErGi0s> i already tried it
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: Adobe would sue it it were too much like theirs.
[11:48] <StErGi0s> and doesnt work :(
[11:48] <rodrigo> ok
[11:48] <saber__> check ur dns setting
[11:48] <rodrigo> I downloaded
[11:48] <rodrigo> gimpshop
 the vlc installs the codecs <-- nop, vlc dont install any codec
[11:48] <rodrigo> and kmplayer
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: kmplayer has limited functionality.
[11:48] <rodrigo> but kmplayer
[11:48] <jhutchins_lt> !plf
[11:48] <ubotu> The Penguin Liberation Front is dedicated to distributing software that cannot be included in Linux distributions for various reasons - See http://plf.zarb.org/ (not yet fully functioning) - See also !Medibuntu and !Seveas
[11:48] <silver2> saber__:  dns settings are restored after reboot
[11:49] <jhutchins_lt> !enter | rodrigo
[11:49] <ubotu> rodrigo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:49] <rodrigo> ok sorry
[11:50] <rodrigo> so can any one help me withs this technical problems
[11:50] <rodrigo> ??
[11:50] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: Add the plf repository, install mplayer, remove kmplayer, review the media stuff that scrolled off above.
[11:50] <_4strO> rodrigo: what's your problem ?
[11:51] <rodrigo> add the what?
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: Read the excellent on-line guides for using gimp.
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> http://plf.zarb.org
[11:51] <silver2> join #gimp
[11:51] <_4strO> rodrigo: to read AVI files with kaffeine you need libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:51] <rodrigo> ok let me check  that
[11:51] <rodrigo> and how do I install all of that
[11:51] <jhutchins_lt> !easysources | rodrigo
[11:51] <ubotu> rodrigo: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:51] <silver2> is here anybody using kubuntu on pppoe?
[11:51] <silver2> no router
[11:52] <zach_> Greets, everyone...
[11:53] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[11:53] <zach_> Can someone help me find out how to find the name of the name of the kernel module for my wi-fi card? I'm using a guide for ndiswrapper that only tells how to do so using GNOME's GUI tools. :-\
[11:53] <rodrigo> hey thanks for the help
[11:53] <rodrigo> try to be passient
[11:54] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: linux is a great graphics platform, the trouble is that there's so much to learn up front.
[11:54] <rodrigo> Im a newby here and more interested in digital media production than programming
[11:54] <Billiard> hey my kaffiene wont start when i run it from the kmenu and when i run it from console i get "QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout" then it starts
[11:55] <rodrigo> ok
[11:55] <rodrigo> that's the panflet so you are new in linux
[11:55] <rodrigo> lol
[11:55] <rodrigo> thanks Im gonna read it
[11:55] <_4strO> Billiard: right click on the icon ion your menu
[11:55] <zach_> Billiard: Did you check the command for Kaffeine's entry in KMenuEdit?
[11:56] <Billiard> yea and when i run that command it works in konsole also
[11:56] <Billiard> kaffeine -d
[11:56] <Billiard> %   U
[11:56] <Billiard> together
[11:56] <zach_> hmm
[11:56] <_4strO> Billiard: kaffeine
[11:56] <zach_> Well, that error message seems to be normal.
[11:56] <_4strO> that's all
[11:56] <Billiard> k
[11:56] <_4strO> oups
[11:56] <zach_> I just got the same one on two computers. :-)
[11:56] <_4strO> Billiard: kaffeine
[11:56] <_4strO> Billiard: kaffeine %U
[11:57] <_4strO> :p
[11:57] <Billiard> k
[11:57] <_4strO> the chat didn't want to print the %
[11:57] <Billiard> k
[11:57] <Billiard> now it works
[11:57] <Billiard> ty
[11:57] <_4strO> ;)
[11:57] <zach_> NP
[11:57] <zach_> So does anyone know how to find the name of the kernel module for a wi-fi card?
[11:58] <_4strO> zach_: apt-cache search yourcard ?
[11:58] <judgen> im impressed with kubuntu, alot faster than 5.10
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: ImageMagick is an amazing set of graphic manipulation/generation tools that works entirely from the command line.
[11:59] <_4strO> zach_: or apt-cache search keyword
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> rodrigo: Most recent animated feature films were produced in linux.
[11:59] <_4strO> blender powaaa
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> zach_: Depends on the card.
[11:59] <adaptr> zach_ modprobe -l | less, and take a good read :)
[11:59] <jhutchins_lt> !wifi | zach_
[11:59] <ubotu> zach_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:00] <zach_> _4strO: Thanks, but I need to know the name for what I would put in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:00] <rodrigo> ahhhhh
[12:00] <rodrigo> you have to paste code
[12:00] <zach_> Thanks, jhutchins_lt
[12:00] <rodrigo> to use linux always?
[12:00] <rodrigo> where is the all good fashion setup.exe
[12:01] <zach_> Linux isn't Windows, rodrigo. ;-)
[12:01] <rodrigo> now you tell me
[12:01] <judgen> rodrigo:  haha
[12:01] <rodrigo> I just want to see my dvd
[12:01] <Billiard> i think thats why linux isnt so popular, you have to use commands or get a package that is different for each version
[12:01] <rodrigo> and make gnom looks like photoshop
[12:02] <zach_> There are different ways of doing things, and more often than not, it doesn't involve "pasting code", although that way can be quicker and easier in many instances.
[12:02] <adaptr> rodrigo gimp already looks so much like photoflop it's not even funny
[12:02] <rodrigo> mmm
[12:02] <rodrigo> nope
[12:02] <rodrigo> sorry I don't agree
[12:03] <rodrigo> look if some one help me with gimp
[12:03] <rodrigo> I'll do you a cartoon totally free
[12:03] <rodrigo> cost
[12:03] <rodrigo> I pay your talent with mine!
[12:03] <_4strO> :p
[12:03] <Billiard> u need help with gimp?
[12:04] <rodrigo> yep
[12:04] <rodrigo> and also I tried to send a personal message here
[12:04] <Billiard> what do you need help doin
[12:04] <rodrigo> but I couldn't
[12:04] <rodrigo> I must register I belive
[12:04] <rodrigo> istall gimpshop
[12:04] <rodrigo> install gimpshop in order that the gimp looks like photoshooop
[12:05] <rodrigo> I'll make a great cartoon of you Billiard
[12:05] <rodrigo> in my brand new gimpshop
[12:05] <rodrigo> totally free
[12:05] <rodrigo> send it by e-mail
[12:05] <Billiard> ill have to look up gimpshop cause i never used it but i heard of it
[12:05] <rodrigo> ok no problem
[12:06] <rodrigo> any help is good recivied
[12:06] <rodrigo> guys can any one tell me how to register to this irc?
[12:06] <avalon_>  I'm having a problem with my DVD Burner. Everytime I try to burn ISOs, I get the error  WRITE@LBA=730h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]  and it ejects. What gives?
[12:06] <StErGi0s> /nickserv register pass
[12:06] <StErGi0s> i think
[12:06] <crdlb> rodrigo, you can't register that nick
[12:07] <crdlb> !register
[12:07] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:07] <rodrigo> wich one rodrigo?
[12:07] <crdlb> yes
[12:07] <crdlb> because it's in use
[12:07] <rodrigo> ok no problem
[12:07] <rodrigo> I have a problem with line codes
[12:07] <rodrigo> I just paste teh line code or I have to go to a menu?
[12:07] <rodrigo> the
[12:08] <mzanfardino> I looking for a desktop search tool that works similar to google desktop for windows.  Specifically i have need to search large directories trees for files by keywords on an smb share.  any suggestions?
[12:08] <zach_> Didn't Google make Desktop Search for Linux, or was it just GoogleEarth and Picasa?
[12:08] <mzanfardino> s/I/I'm
[12:08] <elrodro> yipii
[12:08] <elrodro> hey am rodrigo
[12:09] <ubuntu__> how to find and select the kernel i want to have installed by apt-get? anyway 2.6.20-16 has forgotten my ati-drivers
[12:09] <elrodro> the newby linuxer
[12:09] <elrodro> I change my nick
[12:09] <elrodro> great advance
[12:09] <jhutchins_lt> mzanfardino: beagle/kerry
[12:09] <elrodro> so what you say billiard
[12:09] <mzanfardino> jhutchins_lt: thanks.  Just found it in apt-cache search... heh
[12:09] <elrodro> we have a deal?
[12:10] <Billiard> elrodro im lookin up an easy install method for gimpshop
[12:12] <jriachi> hello
[12:13] <jriachi> when i press my "email key" in my multimedia keyboard, a kmail composition windows opens... where can i configure this?