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| Wamty | how can i check if my vga is installed properly on ubuntu? | 12:51 |
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| ToHellWithGA | Wamty: in gutsy or feisty? | 12:53 |
| ToHellWithGA | and by vga, do you mean video card driver or framebuffer mode? | 12:53 |
| crimsun | easy. Can you see anything via the video output? :) | 12:53 |
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| ToHellWithGA | .me doesn't think Wamty wanted to be helped | 01:47 |
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| err_ | hi | 03:04 |
| err_ | anyone around? | 03:04 |
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| DanaG | My onboard audio device still doesn't have working input, but at least my offboard sound card DOES have working input. | 03:08 |
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| DanaG | Oh, and PulseAudio insists on using Mic, not Line as I have set it. | 03:10 |
| DanaG | How I'm testing it: parec -r -d alsa_input.pci_1102_8_alsa_capture_0 | parec -p | 03:11 |
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| DanaG | I wonder why it still doesn't work.... (not complaining, just curious how it got marked as fixed.) | 03:42 |
| DanaG | Odd, on my laptop, fn-super is ctrl-alt-del. | 03:45 |
| DanaG | Argh, why does the SSH client just LOCK UP when the connection dies? | 03:47 |
| DanaG | The SSH client should EXIT, or at least, unblock ctrl-c. | 03:47 |
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| DanaG | (snd_pcm_open_conf) type is not defined | 04:22 |
| DanaG | with aplay -v (due to my .asoundrc.) | 04:23 |
| DanaG | But I can't figure out what line is causing the error. | 04:23 |
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| DanaG | ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.pcm.dmix.device' | 04:26 |
| DanaG | aah: Unknown PCM default | 04:29 |
| DanaG | Looks like perhaps the !defaults needs to be changed to !default | 04:30 |
| DanaG | aah, fixed it. | 04:35 |
| RAOF | Yay! | 04:35 |
| Pumpernickel | props | 04:38 |
| DanaG | pulseaudio: modules/module-alsa-sink.c:193: do_write: Assertion `(memchunk->length % u->frame_size) == 0' failed. | 04:38 |
| DanaG | Also, I had to remove my overriding default to my dmix96 thingy. | 04:38 |
| DanaG | But now I get this message, trying to use my 'route'-type virtual device. | 04:38 |
| DanaG | AAh, I just removed the custom dmix96. | 04:41 |
| DanaG | Sweet, now I have pulseaudio AND upmixing with offboard audio! | 04:41 |
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| DanaG | Now I just need a feature: load custom sink X when device Y appears. Oh, and I need a "let go of this device when it's inactive, so I can modprobe -r it." | 04:43 |
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| RAOF | That'd be nice. | 04:45 |
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| RAOF | But doesn't gnome-volume-applet actually hang on to the device indefinately? | 04:45 |
| DanaG | I have the applet set to use my onboard sound card, which is always present. | 04:46 |
| DanaG | It's wonderful having pulseaudio --- I put system audio to the onboard speakers, and music to the offboard if it is present. | 04:46 |
| DanaG | Then, if something decides to be annoying on onboard, I just hit mute. | 04:47 |
| RAOF | Oooh, that's cool. | 04:47 |
| DanaG | I also manually set /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to always give hda-intel index 0 and emu10k1 index 1. | 04:48 |
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| DanaG | bye. | 07:20 |
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| LordLimecat | gutsy is/will be LTS, right | 07:33 |
| crimsun | no, gutsy+1. | 07:33 |
| LordLimecat | oh | 07:34 |
| LordLimecat | .....no name yet? | 07:34 |
| crimsun | ...that's why it's known as gutsy+1. | 07:34 |
| crimsun | (the name of the proceeding devel branch isn't known until the week of the current devel release, normally) | 07:35 |
| LordLimecat | 2 more questions | 07:35 |
| LordLimecat | 1) what letter will it be? isnt H taken by 5.10? | 07:35 |
| LordLimecat | or no clue yet? | 07:35 |
| crimsun | 1) see above, 2) does it matter? (no) | 07:35 |
| LordLimecat | lol | 07:35 |
| LordLimecat | just curious, i was always curious as to why they used H for 5.10 | 07:36 |
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| LordLimecat | also, more seriously, is there, aside from launchpad, somewhere that lists the major goals for gutsy? | 07:36 |
| crimsun | no. | 07:36 |
| LordLimecat | alright, thanks :) | 07:36 |
| LordLimecat | *drools* bulletproof x :D | 07:40 |
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| Quinn_Storm | I830WaitLpRing is to me like 'pc load letter' was to the Office Space crew | 09:29 |
| Quinn_Storm | I'm running away for now...maybe in a few months I'll play more with gutsy, but this hardware is just too unreliable with it | 09:35 |
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| dawn_chorus | eh? | 09:39 |
| dawn_chorus | so there'll be a fluxbuntu flavor of Gutsy? | 09:41 |
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| johnnybuoy | hi all! | 10:59 |
| johnnybuoy | what is default infrastructure for laptops in gutsy? | 11:00 |
| crimsun | would you rephrase, please? | 11:00 |
| johnnybuoy | I have been using powersaved since I installed feisty when it was still in developement, but it seems it is not maintained anymore | 11:00 |
| johnnybuoy | ?? | 11:00 |
| johnnybuoy | well, okay | 11:00 |
| johnnybuoy | so, i am interested in knowing what the default set of tools and packages is in gutsy because it seems to me that powersaved is not being maintained | 11:01 |
| crimsun | powermanagement-interface, powermgmt-base, powernowd | 11:02 |
| RAOF | Gnome-power-manager, laptop-mode, powernowd? | 11:02 |
| crimsun | this is all via ubuntu-desktop and acpi-support | 11:02 |
| johnnybuoy | okay | 11:02 |
| crimsun | the former should cover everything | 11:02 |
| johnnybuoy | so I just uninstall powersaved and if I have ubuntu-desktop installed it should work? | 11:02 |
| crimsun | if you install ubuntu-desktop, it will remove powersaved. | 11:03 |
| johnnybuoy | no it won't | 11:03 |
| crimsun | since powersaved Conflicts powernowd | 11:03 |
| johnnybuoy | I know for a fact it won't as I have both powersaved and ubuntu-desktop installed here | 11:04 |
| johnnybuoy | powersaved: | 11:04 |
| johnnybuoy | Installed: 0.14.0-7ubuntu1 | 11:04 |
| crimsun | that's because powernowd is a Recommends. | 11:04 |
| johnnybuoy | ubuntu-desktop: | 11:04 |
| johnnybuoy | Installed: 1.44 | 11:04 |
| johnnybuoy | I don't want powernowd actually | 11:04 |
| crimsun | ... | 11:05 |
| RAOF | Why not? | 11:05 |
| johnnybuoy | I don't need it, I use conservative, whics does the same in kernel mode | 11:05 |
| johnnybuoy | which | 11:05 |
| crimsun | then why does it even matter? why did you ask? | 11:05 |
| johnnybuoy | well, except for powernowd I could use the default utils in ubuntu | 11:06 |
| crimsun | ok, then do so | 11:06 |
| johnnybuoy | I was just wondering if something new emerged | 11:06 |
| crimsun | if something drastic appears, you should read about it on -devel{,-announce} or -changes | 11:07 |
| johnnybuoy | okay, I need to subscribe to one of those | 11:07 |
| johnnybuoy | oki doc' | 11:07 |
| johnnybuoy | thx | 11:07 |
| crimsun | ...you run gutsy without reading any of the three? | 11:08 |
| johnnybuoy | yes | 11:08 |
| crimsun | you don't even have to sub, just read consistently | 11:08 |
| johnnybuoy | ?-) | 11:08 |
| johnnybuoy | I don't know why, but my battery is being detected as doing only 2:30 hours, and that doesn't change one bit. it's as if it were a countdown timer while my battery has 6 hours in it | 11:10 |
| === RAOF should really check whether there's a bug filed about that. | ||
| johnnybuoy | I have no idea where the bug could be, which is why I want to try to uninstall powersaved | 11:12 |
| johnnybuoy | the /proc/acpi interface shows the rate and the capacity right | 11:12 |
| RAOF | johnnybuoy: Anything like http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2796459&postcount=3 | 11:13 |
| johnnybuoy | well, does it matter if I answer? | 11:14 |
| johnnybuoy | yes, it definitely is that problem | 11:14 |
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| Enverex | lol, not a good start for Tribe 1. If you select Log Off from the Gnome menu now X freezes | 11:17 |
| johnnybuoy | it doesn't freeze | 11:18 |
| johnnybuoy | wait a few minutes and the logout dialog will appear | 11:18 |
| johnnybuoy | ( at least that's what happens here ) | 11:18 |
| johnnybuoy | and it definitely does look as if X was frozen | 11:18 |
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| crimsun | that was fixed in gnome-session_2.19.2-0ubuntu2 | 11:22 |
| johnnybuoy | ah | 11:22 |
| crimsun | * debian/patches/11_session_dialog.patch: | 11:22 |
| crimsun | - updated GPM_DBUS_SERVICE, GPM_DBUS_PATH and GPM_DBUS_INTERFACE. That | 11:22 |
| crimsun | fixes the 30 seconds wait for the gnome session logout dialog. | 11:22 |
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| Enverex | johnnybuoy, Ah, never thought about waiting a few minutes (normally in a hurry) | 11:25 |
| johnnybuoy | but if you update your system it will go away | 11:26 |
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| Enverex | My laptop is up to date, just rebooted and the only updates available are for OpenOffice | 11:41 |
| johnnybuoy | hmm | 11:42 |
| johnnybuoy | and do you still get the same behaviour? | 11:42 |
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| Enverex | Yup | 11:50 |
| johnnybuoy | well, that's strange | 11:52 |
| johnnybuoy | and does the dialog appear after a while? | 11:52 |
| johnnybuoy | Enverex: ^^ | 11:53 |
| Enverex | johnnybuoy, Lets see | 11:53 |
| Enverex | Yeah, eventually | 11:55 |
| johnnybuoy | hm | 11:56 |
| johnnybuoy | then it prolly is the same bug | 11:56 |
| johnnybuoy | that should've been fixed | 11:56 |
| johnnybuoy | (it's fixed here) | 11:56 |
| johnnybuoy | what mirror you using? | 11:57 |
| johnnybuoy | Enverex: | 11:59 |
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| mikkael | i see people talking about a live cd, is it released yet ? | 12:33 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: no they are testing the ISO's atm | 12:35 |
| mikkael | so no public access to a iso ? | 12:36 |
| mikkael | i would like to test it on 2 machines | 12:36 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: wait a few hours a day tops if no issues are found to stop it | 12:36 |
| mikkael | ok | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | https://isotesting.stgraber.org/ but dont be suprised if they dont work | 12:37 |
| mikkael | that bad ? | 12:37 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: they are testing before they release the images | 12:38 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: so yes it can be that bad | 12:38 |
| mikkael | yes in know the process, i participated in feisty final release iso testing | 12:39 |
| mikkael | (a bit) ;) | 12:39 |
| gnomefreak | final release ISOs are nothing like what you will find now | 12:40 |
| mikkael | i can imagine | 12:41 |
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| DexterF | hi | 01:39 |
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| mikkael | did you recently change the "to test" iso ? | 04:46 |
| mikkael | because every status is at 0 again.. | 04:47 |
| mikkael | i need to know if i should report my results now, but not sure if i tested the correct iso | 04:48 |
| === mode/#ubuntu+1 [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Hobbsee] : The In Development Version Channel | Please ***don't*** run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependancies, bug fixing and the like. Things break, this is normal | Ubuntu 7.10 will be nicknamed the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 1 released | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu+1 [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ | ||
| Hobbsee | mikkael: report any bugs you have with it, it's released now | 04:48 |
| mikkael | is it the same as 0606 daily ? | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | .1, i think | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | depending on which flavour | 04:49 |
| mikkael | i will compare md5 sum of the iso i used to the one thats available to download.. | 04:49 |
| Hobbsee | that's a smart idea | 04:50 |
| gnomefreak | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1?highlight=%281%29%7C%28tribe%29%7C%28gutsy%29 | 04:50 |
| mikkael | what was the shell command to get the md5 sum of a file again ;) ? | 04:50 |
| gnomefreak | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-1/ | 04:50 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: md5sum | 04:50 |
| mikkael | that easy! | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | the last link is the download link | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: md5sum file.iso | 04:51 |
| gnomefreak | replace file with the name | 04:51 |
| mikkael | yeah its the same | 04:52 |
| mikkael | thank you | 04:52 |
| gnomefreak | mikkael: the isos for daily on wed. should have been same (or whenever we froze give or take a day | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: really, it's "whenever it's done, there are no tribe# milestoned bugs outstanding, and we've got the tests done to release" | 04:58 |
| mikkael | would be cool if someone could check if i reported properly :) | 04:58 |
| mikkael | https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/test/59 | 04:58 |
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| Hobbsee | mikkael: you might want to file a bug on https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/result/59/3 stuff, if you can get relevant logs | 05:01 |
| Hobbsee | as in, people will only look at the attached bugs, and the numbers of "done"'s | 05:01 |
| mikkael | is there a chance that there are logs saved somewhere at the moment or is it needed to reproduce it ? | 05:02 |
| Toma- | <3 displayconfig | 05:02 |
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| mikkael | talking about logs of the not-successfull live sessions ? | 05:03 |
| Enverex | Ok, amazed that ia32-libs STILL hasn't been fixed... | 05:13 |
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| bipolar | I guess since the first alpha CD is out, I should upgrade from feisty :) | 05:16 |
| bipolar | like I did from edgy | 05:16 |
| bipolar | and dapper, come to think of it.... | 05:17 |
| mikkael | well i cant find any logs of those failed live session boot ups, and i have no idea how i could my hands on those logs when im reproducing | 05:17 |
| mikkael | i mean it doesnt touch the disk, so how can i post a log :) ? | 05:18 |
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| mikkael | ill move on to another image | 05:18 |
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| bipolar | mikkael: serial port to another box. redirect the console to that :) | 05:24 |
| Hobbsee | he's gone | 05:24 |
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| DanaG | Argh, every time Nautilus starts the desktop, it also opens my home dir in a window. | 05:26 |
| DanaG | Oh, and also, my snd-hda-intel master mixer often goes to highest volume. | 05:28 |
| DanaG | At boot, I mean. | 05:28 |
| bipolar | 921 packages upgraded, 100 newly installed, 11 to remove and 9 not upgraded. | 05:30 |
| bipolar | Need to get 912MB of archives. After unpacking 374MB will be used | 05:30 |
| bipolar | wow.... :) | 05:31 |
| bipolar | libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu7 < heheh.... | 05:33 |
| DanaG | Perhaps that's so they can upgrade later to really lower version numbers. | 05:34 |
| bipolar | strange :) | 05:34 |
| bipolar | development repos are always fun like that | 05:34 |
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| Hobbsee | teh later libqt3-mt was really stuffed | 05:36 |
| Hobbsee | bipolar: DanaG so we reverted | 05:36 |
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| DanaG | Oh, I see, I thought it said 3.3.3.8 really 3.3.7 | 05:38 |
| bipolar | Hobbsee: ahh... cool | 05:38 |
| andi5 | hi... Can't exec "xdvi.bin": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/xdvi line 90. ... may someone tell me whether i am missing something, given that such a dramatic bug would have been reported already, i guess ... thanks for any hint! | 05:39 |
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| DanaG | woah: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40135 | 05:56 |
| DanaG | http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40132 | 05:57 |
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| bipolar | DanaG: indeed. I want one :) | 05:59 |
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| bipolar | although it would have been nice to have a tablet style screen that flips around, since it's a touchscreen. | 06:00 |
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| bipolar | and it's running the wrong OS | 06:00 |
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| bipolar | Fetched 912MB in 26m0s (584kB/s) < not to shabby | 06:05 |
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| DanaG | When I'm on [gigabit] ethernet in one of the labs at Cal Poly, I can get 7000 kiloBYTES per second from mirrors.kernel.org. | 06:08 |
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| bipolar | DanaG: sweeeet | 06:11 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 07:09 |
| === Hobbsee should upload some badness, then | ||
| bipolar | lolz | 07:11 |
| geser | Is it safe to upgrade to gutsy? | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | geser: define safe. | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | geser: you can upload to over half of it, so that's your call. | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | if i'ts broken, you fix it. | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 07:13 |
| geser | I changed to feisty around herd-1. So I'm asking myself if it's time to switch to gutsy. | 07:14 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, why not. it mostly works | 07:15 |
| geser | So there isn't currently something totally broken? | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | and where it doesnt, then you have more incentive to fix it :P | 07:15 |
| === Hobbsee thinks a MOTU asking if it's safe to run it is...odd, to say the least. | ||
| Hobbsee | not to my knowledge. not that badly | 07:15 |
| geser | I don't mind the occasional breakage, but I try to avoid them. | 07:16 |
| geser | so I'll probably upgrade to gutsy at the weekend (if nobody breaks it till then) | 07:17 |
| bipolar | geser: I just upgraded from feisty 10 min ago | 07:17 |
| bipolar | geser: there were some minor issues on my box caused by 3rd party apps. | 07:18 |
| bipolar | nothing someone with dpkg experiance can't fix | 07:18 |
| geser | sounds good | 07:19 |
| Hobbsee | geser: during freezes should be the most stable | 07:21 |
| Hobbsee | obviously | 07:21 |
| geser | perhaps I should upgrade before everyone starts uploading again | 07:22 |
| Hobbsee | could be smart | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | actually, what worries me is a grub transititon | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | but i guess a live cd will fix that, as will not upgrading grub | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | and i'd imagine that'll be tested outside of the repos first. | 07:23 |
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| geser | are there no lowlatency kernels in gutsy anymore? | 07:35 |
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| dm | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Dalvengyr&n=Suralus | 08:10 |
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| mikkael | should i file a bug on this appearance of the kubuntu installer ? it works, but that progress window is "damaged" http://www.divshare.com/download/868002-55d | 08:28 |
| mikkael | hmm it gets fixed if i resize it :) | 08:29 |
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| The-Compiler | Hi there | 08:50 |
| The-Compiler | I try to use the Kubuntu Gutsy live-cd in a VM. The CD boots, then I get the error "process for the file transfer broken" (or so). Any ideas? (PS: Sorry for my bad english, I'm swiss) | 08:51 |
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| DexterF | hi | 08:51 |
| DexterF | something set an NFS mount point here to mode 660 root:messagebus, I have no idea what. who makes a good suspect? | 08:52 |
| DexterF | wow, nvm | 08:53 |
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| DexterF | the shares aren't mounted | 08:53 |
| akrus`Away | The-Compiler: Gutsy LiveCD??? | 09:04 |
| akrus`Away | ah | 09:04 |
| akrus`Away | i missed news :) | 09:04 |
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| pvandewyngaerde | how do i upgrade to gutsy gibbon ? | 09:40 |
| pvandewyngaerde | from kubuntu feisty | 09:41 |
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| SlimG | My wireless nic isn't recognized in gutsy, where do I start when trying to figure out what/where the problem is? | 10:18 |
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