=== khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Wamty [n=wamty@213.158.169.85] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:51] how can i check if my vga is installed properly on ubuntu? [12:53] Wamty: in gutsy or feisty? [12:53] and by vga, do you mean video card driver or framebuffer mode? [12:53] easy. Can you see anything via the video output? :) === ajmorris_ [i=qzfbvhp@ns37986.ovh.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kunwon1 [n=kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cecko [n=cecko@127.14.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === riddlebox [n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cecko [n=cecko@127.14.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [01:47] .me doesn't think Wamty wanted to be helped === ajmorris_ [i=ohibxay@ns37986.ovh.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=onechard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris__ [i=eyszj@ns37986.ovh.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=onechard@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === err_ [n=err@c-68-84-22-89.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:04] hi [03:04] anyone around? === frying_fish [n=frying_f@insouciant.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jtt [n=jtholmes@wsip-24-248-44-2.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:08] My onboard audio device still doesn't have working input, but at least my offboard sound card DOES have working input. === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:10] Oh, and PulseAudio insists on using Mic, not Line as I have set it. [03:11] How I'm testing it: parec -r -d alsa_input.pci_1102_8_alsa_capture_0 | parec -p === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Ex-Chat"] === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tale [n=tale@207.235.54.1] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Subhuman [n=jack@host86-139-3-223.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [03:42] I wonder why it still doesn't work.... (not complaining, just curious how it got marked as fixed.) [03:45] Odd, on my laptop, fn-super is ctrl-alt-del. [03:47] Argh, why does the SSH client just LOCK UP when the connection dies? [03:47] The SSH client should EXIT, or at least, unblock ctrl-c. === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-131-152.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu+1 === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=kvirc@ip70-185-171-252.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Sub [n=jack@host81-155-84-141.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Subhuman_ [n=jack@host86-139-103-226.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=wjy@ns37986.ovh.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === jussi01 [n=jussi@cust0920.vic01.dataco.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:22] (snd_pcm_open_conf) type is not defined [04:23] with aplay -v (due to my .asoundrc.) [04:23] But I can't figure out what line is causing the error. === Sub [n=jack@host86-143-236-97.range86-143.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:26] ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.pcm.dmix.device' [04:29] aah: Unknown PCM default [04:30] Looks like perhaps the !defaults needs to be changed to !default [04:35] aah, fixed it. [04:35] Yay! [04:38] props [04:38] pulseaudio: modules/module-alsa-sink.c:193: do_write: Assertion `(memchunk->length % u->frame_size) == 0' failed. [04:38] Also, I had to remove my overriding default to my dmix96 thingy. [04:38] But now I get this message, trying to use my 'route'-type virtual device. [04:41] AAh, I just removed the custom dmix96. [04:41] Sweet, now I have pulseaudio AND upmixing with offboard audio! === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:43] Now I just need a feature: load custom sink X when device Y appears. Oh, and I need a "let go of this device when it's inactive, so I can modprobe -r it." === Sub [n=jack@host86-139-44-50.range86-139.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:45] That'd be nice. === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [04:45] But doesn't gnome-volume-applet actually hang on to the device indefinately? [04:46] I have the applet set to use my onboard sound card, which is always present. [04:46] It's wonderful having pulseaudio --- I put system audio to the onboard speakers, and music to the offboard if it is present. [04:47] Then, if something decides to be annoying on onboard, I just hit mute. [04:47] Oooh, that's cool. [04:48] I also manually set /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to always give hda-intel index 0 and emu10k1 index 1. === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Qubert [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-76-102-74-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ajmorris_ [i=dqyibn@ns37986.ovh.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1E51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag^ [i=Agrajag@c-67-186-9-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === Adlai_ [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-c587965790c87414] has joined #ubuntu+1 === stdin [i=stdin@82-37-240-159.cable.ubr07.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === j_ack [n=jack@p508D825F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Tomcat_` [n=Tomcat@p5B15E338.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === thomax [n=thomas@217-148-244-62.happymany.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === varka [n=varkatop@p54a5cbfd.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-66-139-216-167.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-66-158.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Agrajag` [i=Agrajag@c-67-186-9-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu+1 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:20] bye. === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === noppe [n=Jamius@76.2.29.170] has joined #ubuntu+1 === grndslm [n=grndslm@24-116-87-97.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LordLimecat [n=limecat@ip24-255-112-71.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:33] gutsy is/will be LTS, right [07:33] no, gutsy+1. [07:34] oh [07:34] .....no name yet? [07:34] ...that's why it's known as gutsy+1. [07:35] (the name of the proceeding devel branch isn't known until the week of the current devel release, normally) [07:35] 2 more questions [07:35] 1) what letter will it be? isnt H taken by 5.10? [07:35] or no clue yet? [07:35] 1) see above, 2) does it matter? (no) [07:35] lol [07:36] just curious, i was always curious as to why they used H for 5.10 === makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:36] also, more seriously, is there, aside from launchpad, somewhere that lists the major goals for gutsy? [07:36] no. [07:36] alright, thanks :) [07:40] *drools* bulletproof x :D === r00tintheb0x_ [n=r00tinth@cpe-24-175-105-194.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@211.175-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu+1 === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qwertymnbvc__ [n=gaucho@200.203.64.127] has joined #ubuntu+1 === khermans [n=khermans@c-65-96-191-13.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === macogw [n=mack@unaffiliated/macogw] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai [n=adlaiff6@user-64-9-235-151.googlewifi.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qwertymnbvc_ [n=gaucho@201-35-151-82.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qbjunkie [n=Qube@S0106000ea6be3878.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === blenderhead001 [n=blenderh@adsl-068-209-133-121.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === noppe [n=fuas@76.2.29.170] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hohoh [n=fuas@76.2.29.170] has joined #ubuntu+1 === satan2 [n=fuas@76.2.29.170] has joined #ubuntu+1 === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === rpedro__ [n=rpedro@87-196-38-39.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu+1 === tnnc [n=tnnc@66-168-86-223.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Fujitsu [n=william@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dwa [n=duwial@hq.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bullgard4 [n=detlef@p54BF1E51.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === humbolto [n=elias@u-121-071.adsl.univie.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Toma- [n=e17@203-59-66-158.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === [miles] [n=miles@bcn1.entorno.es] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DeepB [n=Joe@unaffiliated/deepb] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Zdra [n=zdra@211.175-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pecisk [n=pecisk@purvc-69-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Quinn_Storm [n=quinn@pool-71-240-49-185.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:29] I830WaitLpRing is to me like 'pc load letter' was to the Office Space crew [09:35] I'm running away for now...maybe in a few months I'll play more with gutsy, but this hardware is just too unreliable with it === stefg [n=chatzill@e179144160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Quinn_Storm [n=quinn@pool-71-240-49-185.pitt.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Konversation] === dawn_chorus [n=billy@c-68-59-122-166.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:39] eh? [09:41] so there'll be a fluxbuntu flavor of Gutsy? === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|Laptop [n=ronald@rijnlaan.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B09AB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B09AB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === Nicke_ [n=niclasa@ua-83-227-140-135.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [10:59] hi all! [11:00] what is default infrastructure for laptops in gutsy? [11:00] would you rephrase, please? [11:00] I have been using powersaved since I installed feisty when it was still in developement, but it seems it is not maintained anymore [11:00] ?? [11:00] well, okay [11:01] so, i am interested in knowing what the default set of tools and packages is in gutsy because it seems to me that powersaved is not being maintained [11:02] powermanagement-interface, powermgmt-base, powernowd [11:02] Gnome-power-manager, laptop-mode, powernowd? [11:02] this is all via ubuntu-desktop and acpi-support [11:02] okay [11:02] the former should cover everything [11:02] so I just uninstall powersaved and if I have ubuntu-desktop installed it should work? [11:03] if you install ubuntu-desktop, it will remove powersaved. [11:03] no it won't [11:03] since powersaved Conflicts powernowd [11:04] I know for a fact it won't as I have both powersaved and ubuntu-desktop installed here [11:04] powersaved: [11:04] Installed: 0.14.0-7ubuntu1 [11:04] that's because powernowd is a Recommends. [11:04] ubuntu-desktop: [11:04] Installed: 1.44 [11:04] I don't want powernowd actually [11:05] ... [11:05] Why not? [11:05] I don't need it, I use conservative, whics does the same in kernel mode [11:05] which [11:05] then why does it even matter? why did you ask? [11:06] well, except for powernowd I could use the default utils in ubuntu [11:06] ok, then do so [11:06] I was just wondering if something new emerged [11:07] if something drastic appears, you should read about it on -devel{,-announce} or -changes [11:07] okay, I need to subscribe to one of those [11:07] oki doc' [11:07] thx [11:08] ...you run gutsy without reading any of the three? [11:08] yes [11:08] you don't even have to sub, just read consistently [11:08] ?-) [11:10] I don't know why, but my battery is being detected as doing only 2:30 hours, and that doesn't change one bit. it's as if it were a countdown timer while my battery has 6 hours in it === RAOF should really check whether there's a bug filed about that. [11:12] I have no idea where the bug could be, which is why I want to try to uninstall powersaved [11:12] the /proc/acpi interface shows the rate and the capacity right [11:13] johnnybuoy: Anything like http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2796459&postcount=3 [11:14] well, does it matter if I answer? [11:14] yes, it definitely is that problem === Enverex [i=Ragnarok@host-84-9-189-109.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:17] lol, not a good start for Tribe 1. If you select Log Off from the Gnome menu now X freezes [11:18] it doesn't freeze [11:18] wait a few minutes and the logout dialog will appear [11:18] ( at least that's what happens here ) [11:18] and it definitely does look as if X was frozen === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:22] that was fixed in gnome-session_2.19.2-0ubuntu2 [11:22] ah [11:22] * debian/patches/11_session_dialog.patch: [11:22] - updated GPM_DBUS_SERVICE, GPM_DBUS_PATH and GPM_DBUS_INTERFACE. That [11:22] fixes the 30 seconds wait for the gnome session logout dialog. === Mikelevel [n=MoVeWoRk@60.Red-80-25-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:25] johnnybuoy, Ah, never thought about waiting a few minutes (normally in a hurry) [11:26] but if you update your system it will go away === MacSlow [i=mirco@unaffiliated/macslow] has joined #ubuntu+1 === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu+1 === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:41] My laptop is up to date, just rebooted and the only updates available are for OpenOffice [11:42] hmm [11:42] and do you still get the same behaviour? === Zdra [n=zdra@195.244.169.43] has joined #ubuntu+1 [11:50] Yup [11:52] well, that's strange [11:52] and does the dialog appear after a while? [11:53] Enverex: ^^ [11:53] johnnybuoy, Lets see [11:55] Yeah, eventually [11:56] hm [11:56] then it prolly is the same bug [11:56] that should've been fixed [11:56] (it's fixed here) [11:57] what mirror you using? [11:59] Enverex: === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu+1 === acuster [n=acuster@min31-4-82-240-185-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Enverex [i=Ragnarok@host-84-9-189-109.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B09AB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [12:33] i see people talking about a live cd, is it released yet ? [12:35] mikkael: no they are testing the ISO's atm [12:36] so no public access to a iso ? [12:36] i would like to test it on 2 machines [12:36] mikkael: wait a few hours a day tops if no issues are found to stop it [12:37] ok [12:37] https://isotesting.stgraber.org/ but dont be suprised if they dont work [12:37] that bad ? 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[04:47] because every status is at 0 again.. [04:48] i need to know if i should report my results now, but not sure if i tested the correct iso === mode/#ubuntu+1 [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Hobbsee] : The In Development Version Channel | Please ***don't*** run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependancies, bug fixing and the like. Things break, this is normal | Ubuntu 7.10 will be nicknamed the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 1 released === mode/#ubuntu+1 [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [04:48] mikkael: report any bugs you have with it, it's released now [04:49] is it the same as 0606 daily ? [04:49] .1, i think [04:49] depending on which flavour [04:49] i will compare md5 sum of the iso i used to the one thats available to download.. [04:50] that's a smart idea [04:50] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1?highlight=%281%29%7C%28tribe%29%7C%28gutsy%29 [04:50] what was the shell command to get the md5 sum of a file again ;) ? [04:50] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-1/ [04:50] mikkael: md5sum [04:51] that easy! [04:51] the last link is the download link [04:51] mikkael: md5sum file.iso [04:51] replace file with the name [04:52] yeah its the same [04:52] thank you [04:54] mikkael: the isos for daily on wed. should have been same (or whenever we froze give or take a day [04:58] gnomefreak: really, it's "whenever it's done, there are no tribe# milestoned bugs outstanding, and we've got the tests done to release" [04:58] would be cool if someone could check if i reported properly :) [04:58] https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/test/59 === cecko [n=cecko@127.14.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:01] mikkael: you might want to file a bug on https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/result/59/3 stuff, if you can get relevant logs [05:01] as in, people will only look at the attached bugs, and the numbers of "done"'s [05:02] is there a chance that there are logs saved somewhere at the moment or is it needed to reproduce it ? [05:02] <3 displayconfig === tortoise [n=tortoise@91.84.37.241] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:03] talking about logs of the not-successfull live sessions ? [05:13] Ok, amazed that ia32-libs STILL hasn't been fixed... === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:16] I guess since the first alpha CD is out, I should upgrade from feisty :) [05:16] like I did from edgy [05:17] and dapper, come to think of it.... [05:17] well i cant find any logs of those failed live session boot ups, and i have no idea how i could my hands on those logs when im reproducing [05:18] i mean it doesnt touch the disk, so how can i post a log :) ? === zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:18] ill move on to another image === gbeshers_ [i=gbeshers@nat/redhat/x-b56930042ad2b30c] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:24] mikkael: serial port to another box. redirect the console to that :) [05:24] he's gone === DanaG [n=DanaG@24-205-228-241.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:26] Argh, every time Nautilus starts the desktop, it also opens my home dir in a window. [05:28] Oh, and also, my snd-hda-intel master mixer often goes to highest volume. [05:28] At boot, I mean. [05:30] 921 packages upgraded, 100 newly installed, 11 to remove and 9 not upgraded. [05:30] Need to get 912MB of archives. After unpacking 374MB will be used [05:31] wow.... :) [05:33] libqt3-mt 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu7 < heheh.... [05:34] Perhaps that's so they can upgrade later to really lower version numbers. [05:34] strange :) [05:34] development repos are always fun like that === yuriy_ [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:36] teh later libqt3-mt was really stuffed [05:36] bipolar: DanaG so we reverted === andi5 [n=ak47@p548BA069.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === hippu [n=hippu@C228-142.surffi.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:38] Oh, I see, I thought it said 3.3.3.8 really 3.3.7 [05:38] Hobbsee: ahh... cool [05:39] hi... Can't exec "xdvi.bin": No such file or directory at /usr/bin/xdvi line 90. ... may someone tell me whether i am missing something, given that such a dramatic bug would have been reported already, i guess ... thanks for any hint! === qwertymnbvc_ [n=gaucho@201-35-151-82.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:56] woah: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40135 [05:57] http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40132 === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu+1 [05:59] DanaG: indeed. I want one :) === CodeImp [n=dont@s55910c2b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] although it would have been nice to have a tablet style screen that flips around, since it's a touchscreen. === _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-55-31.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:00] and it's running the wrong OS === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:05] Fetched 912MB in 26m0s (584kB/s) < not to shabby === Martinp23 [n=Martinp2@wikimedia/Martinp23] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:08] When I'm on [gigabit] ethernet in one of the labs at Cal Poly, I can get 7000 kiloBYTES per second from mirrors.kernel.org. === acuster [n=acuster@min31-4-82-240-185-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 [06:11] DanaG: sweeeet === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5CBFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-55-31.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 === atreju [n=atreju@87-239-96-129-dsl.qfast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === fraco [n=fraco@213.219.140.212.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Enverex is now known as Exy|LT === asubedi [n=fjord@c-71-203-238-210.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === j_ack [n=jack@p508D83D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-130-109.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DrColossus [n=blah@220-245-194-197.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar [n=bflong@216-164-162-138.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === bipolar basks in the gutsy goodness [07:09] hehe === Hobbsee should upload some badness, then [07:11] lolz [07:12] Is it safe to upgrade to gutsy? [07:12] geser: define safe. [07:12] geser: you can upload to over half of it, so that's your call. [07:12] if i'ts broken, you fix it. [07:13] :P [07:14] I changed to feisty around herd-1. So I'm asking myself if it's time to switch to gutsy. [07:15] yeah, why not. it mostly works [07:15] So there isn't currently something totally broken? [07:15] and where it doesnt, then you have more incentive to fix it :P === Hobbsee thinks a MOTU asking if it's safe to run it is...odd, to say the least. [07:15] not to my knowledge. not that badly [07:16] I don't mind the occasional breakage, but I try to avoid them. [07:17] so I'll probably upgrade to gutsy at the weekend (if nobody breaks it till then) [07:17] geser: I just upgraded from feisty 10 min ago [07:18] geser: there were some minor issues on my box caused by 3rd party apps. [07:18] nothing someone with dpkg experiance can't fix [07:19] sounds good [07:21] geser: during freezes should be the most stable [07:21] obviously [07:22] perhaps I should upgrade before everyone starts uploading again [07:23] could be smart [07:23] actually, what worries me is a grub transititon [07:23] but i guess a live cd will fix that, as will not upgrading grub [07:23] and i'd imagine that'll be tested outside of the repos first. === geser starts editing /etc/apt/sources.list === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #ubuntu+1 [07:35] are there no lowlatency kernels in gutsy anymore? === serAphim [n=seraphim@e179135162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === kalpik [n=kalpik@122.163.53.253] has joined #ubuntu+1 === afflux [i=fnord@pentabarf.de] has left #ubuntu+1 [] === serAphim [n=seraphim@e179135162.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@208.69.214.65] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DarkX [n=DarkX@75.109.219.236] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=onechard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === ench0 [n=encho_@86-42-171-235.b-ras1.bbh.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Ronald|Laptop [n=ronald@ip51-232-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Adlai_ [i=adlaiff6@nat/google/x-115bc58a2e70b556] has joined #ubuntu+1 === onechard [n=onechard@209.168.213.107] has joined #ubuntu+1 === Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-139-130-109.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu+1 === dm [n=dstubbs2@cpe-65-24-189-197.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === DM| [n=dm@cpe-65-24-189-197.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:10] http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Dalvengyr&n=Suralus === dendrobates [n=rclark@adsl-065-005-186-012.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === borschty_ [n=sebastia@p54bb63af.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=ubuntu@p54B09AB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:28] should i file a bug on this appearance of the kubuntu installer ? it works, but that progress window is "damaged" http://www.divshare.com/download/868002-55d [08:29] hmm it gets fixed if i resize it :) === obsethryl [n=cball@unaffiliated/obsethryl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu+1 === zaggynl [n=zaggynl@dsl-083-247-110-137.solcon.nl] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=ubuntu@p54B09AB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu+1 ["Kopete] === The-Compiler [n=florian@1.26.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:50] Hi there [08:51] I try to use the Kubuntu Gutsy live-cd in a VM. The CD boots, then I get the error "process for the file transfer broken" (or so). Any ideas? (PS: Sorry for my bad english, I'm swiss) === DexterF [n=dexter@ip153.139.reserved.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:51] hi [08:52] something set an NFS mount point here to mode 660 root:messagebus, I have no idea what. who makes a good suspect? [08:53] wow, nvm === mirak [n=mirak@m60.net81-64-221.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu+1 [08:53] the shares aren't mounted [09:04] The-Compiler: Gutsy LiveCD??? [09:04] ah [09:04] i missed news :) === DexterF [n=dexter@ip153.139.reserved.ish.de] has left #ubuntu+1 ["I] === _dennis_ [n=dennis@d54C2B01E.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === mikkael [n=michael@p54B09AB7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu+1 === qwertymnbvc__ [n=gaucho@201-41-29-183.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #ubuntu+1 === micahcowan [n=micahcow@ubuntu/member/micahcowan] has joined #ubuntu+1 === pvandewyngaerde [n=pvandewy@221.79-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 === _dennis_ [n=dennis@d54C2B01E.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu+1 [09:40] how do i upgrade to gutsy gibbon ? 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