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lynnI'm trying to boot a ltsp client and getting an error:  "nfsmount:  need a path"12:21
lynnI have many other clients working, and this one worked a few minutes ago12:22
lynnany one have any clue as to what would cause this type of error?12:22
lynnfrom what I found on google, my server settings are fine, so I think there may be some problem with the client12:23
cliebowlynn: option root-path says?12:25
lynnit says "option root-path '/opt/ltsp/i386';"12:26
lynnand i'm only using PCs now12:27
cliebowseems fine12:28
cliebowmight have to run wireshark and lok the packets over12:28
cliebowltsp5?12:28
lynnyeah, all the other clients work fine12:28
cliebowany other msgs...like does it drop you to the initramfs?12:29
lynnyeah, it just did that like 30 sec ago12:29
cliebowi wonder if it isbalking at the network card in that box..like not getting second nfs12:30
lynnisbalking?12:30
cliebowis balking12:31
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lynno ok12:31
cliebowwireshark would tell you if it aactually asks for a  root-path12:31
cliebowwhat nic in the client?12:31
lynna 3com 3c905b12:32
cliebowheck that should be fine12:32
cliebowmight drop by #ltsp..that card should be ducky12:33
lynni'll try a different card and see what i get12:33
cliebowcool!12:33
lynnit works! must have been a bogus card.  strange that it worked once12:38
lynnthanks for your help!12:38
energymediaHi all, I have lost the top part of the conversation about LTSP - Im having issues I need some pointers on - Cliebow are you free for a few mins?01:03
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racteri'm having trouble logging users out (on thin clients) - when they choose 'System->Quit' nothing appears to happen (but they are no longer able to start up new programs)06:57
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mariocesar_boHi all, does anyone knows hot to do a Addon Cd like Edubuntu Server Addons09:11
mariocesar_boSorry my englis :-)=> Hi all, does anyone knows *how* to do a Addon CD like Edubuntu Server Addons09:11
RichEdmariocesar_bo: you download the .iso and burn the CD ... then pop it in ...09:12
mariocesar_boRichEd: yea i know, what i wan't is do a similar cd with other apps09:12
RichEdit will also give you more applications for the (workstation) desktop09:12
mariocesar_bolike octave, axiom, openoffice-es, and others09:13
RichEdoh ... you mean build one yourself ?09:13
mariocesar_boyea09:13
RichEdthen you'll need to chat to ogra ... he put it together09:13
mariocesar_boi like the Edubuntu Server Addons, it's so simple09:13
RichEdmariocesar_bo: that was the general idea :)09:14
mariocesar_boso, what do i have to learn to do a similar cd with extra apps?09:14
RichEdchat to ogra when he is around in an hour or two ...09:14
RichEdwhen you build yours let us know what apps you put on, and maybe even let us have a copy ... it would be useful for us to look at.09:15
mariocesar_boGreat ^_^09:15
mariocesar_boyea, ogra made the cd?09:15
RichEdindeed he did09:15
mariocesar_bo:O yea, so i would wait09:16
mariocesar_boit's 3am on Bolivia but i will wait :D09:16
RichEdmariocesar_bo: did you get my /msg ? I gave you oliver's email09:18
mariocesar_boyes09:18
mariocesar_bothanks09:18
ograwell09:18
mariocesar_boo men !09:18
mariocesar_bohi ogra09:18
RichEdahh ... mr grawert ... morning09:18
ograi didnt 'make' the CD .... i only maintain it ...09:19
ograour cd buildsystem on launchpad builds it ...09:19
mariocesar_bo:-) well, but dou you know how to do it?09:20
ograbut thats very specific and not how you would do it at home09:20
mariocesar_book, i would check it09:20
mariocesar_bothanks09:20
mariocesar_bommmm09:20
mariocesar_boso, where i can find info about this?09:22
ograhttp://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ i guess thats something rather for home use :)09:22
mariocesar_boyea i use it09:22
mariocesar_bobut i just love the Edubuntu Server Addon, it's extremely simple09:22
mariocesar_boand more intuitive that aptoncd09:22
mariocesar_bothis is the site project of Edubuntu addons, no ? => https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-addon-cd/09:26
ograwell, roughly what you need to do is build an archive structure (which there are tools for (i.e. apt-ftparchive)) and the app-install-data dir with the right .desktop files and icons ... put that in a directory tree and run mkisofs on it09:27
ograbut as i said i have not much to do with the backend in launchpad so i might miss pieces09:28
mariocesar_book, i just want to get sure,  when i put the cd, it would launch the gnome-app-install?09:29
ograit checks for some metadata if its a valid CD or not, just copy that from the edubuntu CD ;)09:30
ogralook for hidden dirs09:30
mariocesar_book :D09:31
mariocesar_boi would study this09:31
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maarten_goodmorning09:48
maarten_CET at least.09:48
maarten_i have a question i could not find in the edubuntu web: is it possible to have edubuntu and normal ubuntu coexist? if i install edubuntu-desktop on top of my normal installation, it changes too many things for all users... i'd like to have the edubuntu look just for a specific user.09:50
RichEdmaarten_: that is possible (to switch) let me find a help link for you09:53
RichEdhere is one "help" link: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/howto-switch-from-ubuntu-to-kubuntu-or-xubuntu-or-edubuntu-or-vice-versa-610-edgy/09:54
maarten_RichEd: that does not really do what i want; here they really revert the installation09:57
RichEdi'm trying to find a link for "more dynamic switching" for you09:57
maarten_i think the main problem is that the edubuntu packages are not quite as modular as they could be...09:58
maarten_i mean, it's either all or nothing09:58
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RichEdmaarten_: perhaps you can mail the edubuntu-users and/or edubuntu-devel list10:47
RichEdi know jonathan carter (highvoltage) knows the best way to satisfy what you need10:47
maarten_RichEd: thanks, I will10:47
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sbalneavMorning all04:04
azehi sbalneav04:04
sbalneavHello aze04:04
RichEdhi sbalneav04:05
sbalneavHe RichEd04:05
sbalneavs/He/Hey/04:05
RichEdMe RichEd He sbalneav04:05
azeeheh04:05
sbalneavThere's a "Tarzan and Jane" joke in here somewhere.04:06
RichEdsbalneav: Richard & Jane ... or Dick & Jane04:16
RichEd:)04:16
azeeheh04:16
RichEdLike the old school books, before they realised it may not be such a good nickname.04:16
SulamitaRichEd: hello04:23
RichEdhi Sulamita04:24
SulamitaRichEd: did you get my mail?04:25
RichEdSulamita: let me check ... when did you send it ?04:26
RichEdOkay got it ... will look at it now ...04:26
Sulamitaok04:28
sbalneavSulamita: Are you the Sulamita from Brazil?04:29
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RichEdsbalneav: indeed she is ... ms intel LAMs ... the very same from sevilla04:30
sbalneavAh, cool.04:30
RichEdSulamita: I'll check out the confernce and give it some thought ... I however do not make the financial decisions, but I'll get back to you with comments.04:31
sbalneavWelcome to #edubuntu.04:31
Sulamitasbalneav: thanks :)04:32
SulamitaRichEd: I thought so, just want to assure that the financial would be just for your travel04:32
RichEdSulamita: okay thanks :)04:32
sbalneavI think some people in this channel have really let me down.04:38
sbalneavI mean, really, how come no one's ever told me about lifrea before?!?!04:38
sbalneavIt's awesome!04:38
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moquistcan *any* preseed value be placed on the kernel command line (within the 255 char limit)?05:58
moquistFor example, I have preseed/locale=en_US kbd-chooser/method=us but it's still asking about keyboard config.05:59
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YagisanC'day cbx3306:49
cbx33hey Yagisan06:49
=== Yagisan finished this semesters uni exams today
cbx33awesome06:50
Yagisancbx33, can you see this www site -> http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8010/06:50
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Yagisanbut I'm not sure if dns is working, or if my config is borked06:51
cbx33yup i can see that06:51
Yagisanyes06:52
Yagisantechnically the i386 box there is edubuntu ... but still06:53
cbx33coooool06:57
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Yagisancbx33, I think it is rather cool. Now I get automated "you broke my code" messages07:00
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cbx33hehehe07:06
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yuriyheya cbx3307:40
cbx33hey yuriy07:43
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yuriycbx33: did you get my last emails?07:51
yuriyi'll be gone over the weekend but i hope to get some stuff done next week07:52
cbx33ok cool07:54
cbx33i don't rememder seeing one~07:54
cbx33I'll check later07:54
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LaserJockhmm, no where did Oli run off to?08:20
LaserJock*now08:20
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LaserJockogra!08:56
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LaserJockmoquist: you around?09:08
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Sulamitaogra_e2300: hei!09:13
ogra_e2300Sulamita, !!!!!09:13
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LaserJockogra_e2300: I think I've figured out how to get our menu modifications for the add-on CD09:15
Burgundaviahey ogra09:15
ogra_e2300LaserJock, you rock09:16
ogra_e2300i figured out how to boot thin clients twice as fast with a union/sqhashfs/mbd combo ;)09:16
ogra_e2300*err nbd09:16
LaserJockogra_e2300: I don't suppose you have a bzr branch of debian-cd do you?09:16
ogra_e2300nope09:17
ogra_e2300i think the only valid branch is colins09:17
LaserJockwell, in the gutsy tools there is a script called app-install.sh09:17
LaserJockI think you can imagine what that does ;-)09:18
LaserJockit's got a simple line:09:18
LaserJockcp -a "$TMP/usr/share/app-install/desktop/applications.menu" \09:18
LaserJock    "$DIR/app-install/desktop/" || true09:18
LaserJockwe just need to change that to copy from "our" source09:19
ogra_e2300heh, trivial09:19
LaserJockthere is already a data/gutsy/ dir in debian-cd09:19
LaserJockthat has the *buntu boot splashes, etc.09:19
LaserJockI was thinking we could just create an edubuntu-addon dir in there09:20
ogra_e2300sounds ok09:20
LaserJockand I can put the .menu and .directory files I need to create in there09:20
LaserJockogra: did you leave?09:22
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ograboth09:24
ogra:)09:24
ograi'm sitting in the middle09:24
LaserJockmy only concern was that simply changing the cp line makes app-install.sh edubuntu specific09:25
LaserJockdo you think that is an issue?09:25
LaserJockright now the Makefile only uses app-install.sh for the Edubuntu Add-on CD09:25
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LaserJockin any case, I think this weekend I'll make the modifications, put in an initial applications.menu with .directory files, and put that up on launchpad for Colin to have a look at09:31
ograi guess we'll need icons fr the meta .desktop files09:40
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moquistLaserJock: am now09:43
LaserJockogra: cya09:45
moquistogra: buh-bye09:45
LaserJockmoquist: I happened, through a roundabout way, to end up on the FOSSED website09:45
LaserJockI was reading the fedora education list, and there was an email that somebody is updating the Open Source Victoria Fee Software for Schools book09:47
moquistLaserJock: ah! Welcome.09:47
moquistLaserJock: Yep, Bryant Patten.09:47
LaserJockyeah09:47
moquistInterested in coming? :)09:47
LaserJockwell, I'd love to09:47
LaserJockbut I don't think I can get the time off of work09:47
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LaserJockbut I ran through the list of topics09:47
LaserJockmoquist: was a little disturbed by "We will explore easy ways to add these to your Linux desktop using Synaptice Manager and Automatix." thought ;-)09:49
LaserJock*though09:49
moquistheh - which session is that?09:49
=== moquist didn't write that...
LaserJockhttp://fossed.net/course/view.php?id=1409:49
=== moquist *wouldn't* write that...
LaserJockheh, I had to chuckle09:50
moquistI think that's from last year.09:50
LaserJockis any of this geared towards community colleges or universities?09:50
moquistThat presenter won't be there this year (too busy). She's great, full of energy and in love with Open Source. But she's a teacher-turned-tech-director, so definitely on the non-technical end of the scale.09:51
moquistNope, though we aren't intentionally excluding anyone.09:51
moquistThe core audience is solidly k-12.09:51
LaserJockhmm09:52
LaserJockwe should do EduCons09:52
LaserJockI'd like to see some West Coast action09:52
moquistGallaudet will be interesting, though, because I don't think we're connecting with that same community there. We're not really sure yet *who* will come to that one. (It's new this year.)09:52
moquistsure09:52
moquistWC is good.09:52
LaserJockmaybe Google would lend us some facilities ;-)09:53
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racterdo we need a soundcard on the server in order to have sound on the clients?11:26
moose303you should not need a sound card on the server.11:27
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ractermoose303 - that's what i thought.  i guess i don't know how to start working this out (it's not autodetected on any of the clients)11:29
moose303make sure you have sound=true in your lts.conf.  I have always had mixed success with different sound cards also.11:30
moose303has anyone tried authentication to a novell edirectory network?11:32
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