=== lynn [n=lynn@c-67-167-206-34.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:21] I'm trying to boot a ltsp client and getting an error: "nfsmount: need a path" [12:22] I have many other clients working, and this one worked a few minutes ago [12:22] any one have any clue as to what would cause this type of error? [12:23] from what I found on google, my server settings are fine, so I think there may be some problem with the client [12:25] lynn: option root-path says? [12:26] it says "option root-path '/opt/ltsp/i386';" [12:27] and i'm only using PCs now [12:28] seems fine [12:28] might have to run wireshark and lok the packets over [12:28] ltsp5? [12:28] yeah, all the other clients work fine [12:29] any other msgs...like does it drop you to the initramfs? [12:29] yeah, it just did that like 30 sec ago [12:30] i wonder if it isbalking at the network card in that box..like not getting second nfs [12:30] isbalking? [12:31] is balking === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] o ok [12:31] wireshark would tell you if it aactually asks for a root-path [12:31] what nic in the client? [12:32] a 3com 3c905b [12:32] heck that should be fine [12:33] might drop by #ltsp..that card should be ducky [12:33] i'll try a different card and see what i get [12:33] cool! [12:38] it works! must have been a bogus card. strange that it worked once [12:38] thanks for your help! [01:03] Hi all, I have lost the top part of the conversation about LTSP - Im having issues I need some pointers on - Cliebow are you free for a few mins? === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d428e2.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.238] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=z_Z_z_Z_@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #edubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=z_Z_z_Z_@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.238] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57a977dd.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A9741B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === stgraber [n=stgraber@ubuntu/member/stgraber] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === racter [n=jake@c-67-167-206-34.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu [06:57] i'm having trouble logging users out (on thin clients) - when they choose 'System->Quit' nothing appears to happen (but they are no longer able to start up new programs) === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-139-170.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr-lappy [n=sdfsd@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === mariocesar_bo [n=marioces@201.222.110.253] has joined #edubuntu [09:11] Hi all, does anyone knows hot to do a Addon Cd like Edubuntu Server Addons [09:11] Sorry my englis :-)=> Hi all, does anyone knows *how* to do a Addon CD like Edubuntu Server Addons [09:12] mariocesar_bo: you download the .iso and burn the CD ... then pop it in ... [09:12] RichEd: yea i know, what i wan't is do a similar cd with other apps [09:12] it will also give you more applications for the (workstation) desktop [09:13] like octave, axiom, openoffice-es, and others [09:13] oh ... you mean build one yourself ? [09:13] yea [09:13] then you'll need to chat to ogra ... he put it together [09:13] i like the Edubuntu Server Addons, it's so simple [09:14] mariocesar_bo: that was the general idea :) [09:14] so, what do i have to learn to do a similar cd with extra apps? [09:14] chat to ogra when he is around in an hour or two ... [09:15] when you build yours let us know what apps you put on, and maybe even let us have a copy ... it would be useful for us to look at. [09:15] Great ^_^ [09:15] yea, ogra made the cd? [09:15] indeed he did [09:16] :O yea, so i would wait [09:16] it's 3am on Bolivia but i will wait :D [09:18] mariocesar_bo: did you get my /msg ? I gave you oliver's email [09:18] yes [09:18] thanks [09:18] well [09:18] o men ! [09:18] hi ogra [09:18] ahh ... mr grawert ... morning [09:19] i didnt 'make' the CD .... i only maintain it ... [09:19] our cd buildsystem on launchpad builds it ... [09:20] :-) well, but dou you know how to do it? [09:20] but thats very specific and not how you would do it at home [09:20] ok, i would check it [09:20] thanks [09:20] mmmm [09:22] so, where i can find info about this? [09:22] http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ i guess thats something rather for home use :) [09:22] yea i use it [09:22] but i just love the Edubuntu Server Addon, it's extremely simple [09:22] and more intuitive that aptoncd [09:26] this is the site project of Edubuntu addons, no ? => https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-addon-cd/ [09:27] well, roughly what you need to do is build an archive structure (which there are tools for (i.e. apt-ftparchive)) and the app-install-data dir with the right .desktop files and icons ... put that in a directory tree and run mkisofs on it [09:28] but as i said i have not much to do with the backend in launchpad so i might miss pieces [09:29] ok, i just want to get sure, when i put the cd, it would launch the gnome-app-install? [09:30] it checks for some metadata if its a valid CD or not, just copy that from the edubuntu CD ;) [09:30] look for hidden dirs [09:31] ok :D [09:31] i would study this === mariocesar_bo [n=marioces@201.222.110.253] has left #edubuntu [] === maarten_ [n=maarten@mtg62.upf.es] has joined #edubuntu [09:48] goodmorning [09:48] CET at least. [09:50] i have a question i could not find in the edubuntu web: is it possible to have edubuntu and normal ubuntu coexist? if i install edubuntu-desktop on top of my normal installation, it changes too many things for all users... i'd like to have the edubuntu look just for a specific user. [09:53] maarten_: that is possible (to switch) let me find a help link for you [09:54] here is one "help" link: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/howto-switch-from-ubuntu-to-kubuntu-or-xubuntu-or-edubuntu-or-vice-versa-610-edgy/ [09:57] RichEd: that does not really do what i want; here they really revert the installation [09:57] i'm trying to find a link for "more dynamic switching" for you [09:58] i think the main problem is that the edubuntu packages are not quite as modular as they could be... [09:58] i mean, it's either all or nothing === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #Edubuntu [10:47] maarten_: perhaps you can mail the edubuntu-users and/or edubuntu-devel list [10:47] i know jonathan carter (highvoltage) knows the best way to satisfy what you need [10:47] RichEd: thanks, I will === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-5e842aa3a3999145] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-48.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ [n=Rondom@p57A970AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-139-170.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AF924.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === sc0tt_ is now known as sc0tt === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === humbolto [n=elias@213-147-185-150.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom_ is now known as Rondom === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === jmega_ [n=jmega@84.240.56.206] has joined #edubuntu === Sulamita [n=toska@zeus-ras.intranetparana.br] has joined #edubuntu === jmega_ is now known as jmega === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool38.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@mut38-5-82-246-189-159.fbx.proxad.net] has left #Edubuntu ["A] === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.238] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d429d0.wlks.losch.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:04] Morning all [04:04] hi sbalneav [04:04] Hello aze [04:05] hi sbalneav [04:05] He RichEd [04:05] s/He/Hey/ [04:05] Me RichEd He sbalneav [04:05] eheh [04:06] There's a "Tarzan and Jane" joke in here somewhere. [04:16] sbalneav: Richard & Jane ... or Dick & Jane [04:16] :) [04:16] eheh [04:16] Like the old school books, before they realised it may not be such a good nickname. [04:23] RichEd: hello [04:24] hi Sulamita [04:25] RichEd: did you get my mail? [04:26] Sulamita: let me check ... when did you send it ? [04:26] Okay got it ... will look at it now ... [04:28] ok [04:29] Sulamita: Are you the Sulamita from Brazil? === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu [04:30] sbalneav: indeed she is ... ms intel LAMs ... the very same from sevilla [04:30] Ah, cool. [04:31] Sulamita: I'll check out the confernce and give it some thought ... I however do not make the financial decisions, but I'll get back to you with comments. [04:31] Welcome to #edubuntu. [04:32] sbalneav: thanks :) [04:32] RichEd: I thought so, just want to assure that the financial would be just for your travel [04:32] Sulamita: okay thanks :) [04:38] I think some people in this channel have really let me down. [04:38] I mean, really, how come no one's ever told me about lifrea before?!?! [04:38] It's awesome! === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #edubuntu === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:58] can *any* preseed value be placed on the kernel command line (within the 255 char limit)? [05:59] For example, I have preseed/locale=en_US kbd-chooser/method=us but it's still asking about keyboard config. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:49] C'day cbx33 [06:49] hey Yagisan === Yagisan finished this semesters uni exams today [06:50] awesome [06:50] cbx33, can you see this www site -> http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8010/ === Yagisan is beating a buildbot system together [06:51] but I'm not sure if dns is working, or if my config is borked [06:51] yup i can see that [06:52] yes [06:53] technically the i386 box there is edubuntu ... but still [06:57] coooool === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:00] cbx33, I think it is rather cool. Now I get automated "you broke my code" messages === Yagisan races his two buildsystems against each other [07:06] hehehe === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan goes to try and convince qemu to run the powerpc and sparc versions of ubuntu [07:40] heya cbx33 [07:43] hey yuriy === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-139-170.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [07:51] cbx33: did you get my last emails? [07:52] i'll be gone over the weekend but i hope to get some stuff done next week [07:54] ok cool [07:54] i don't rememder seeing one~ [07:54] I'll check later === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #edubuntu [08:20] hmm, no where did Oli run off to? [08:20] *now === greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [08:56] ogra! === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [09:08] moquist: you around? === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AF924.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ is now known as ogra_e2300 [09:13] ogra_e2300: hei! [09:13] Sulamita, !!!!! === ogra_e2300 *hugs* [09:15] ogra_e2300: I think I've figured out how to get our menu modifications for the add-on CD [09:15] hey ogra [09:16] LaserJock, you rock [09:16] i figured out how to boot thin clients twice as fast with a union/sqhashfs/mbd combo ;) [09:16] *err nbd [09:16] ogra_e2300: I don't suppose you have a bzr branch of debian-cd do you? [09:17] nope [09:17] i think the only valid branch is colins [09:17] well, in the gutsy tools there is a script called app-install.sh [09:18] I think you can imagine what that does ;-) [09:18] it's got a simple line: [09:18] cp -a "$TMP/usr/share/app-install/desktop/applications.menu" \ [09:18] "$DIR/app-install/desktop/" || true [09:19] we just need to change that to copy from "our" source [09:19] heh, trivial [09:19] there is already a data/gutsy/ dir in debian-cd [09:19] that has the *buntu boot splashes, etc. [09:20] I was thinking we could just create an edubuntu-addon dir in there [09:20] sounds ok [09:20] and I can put the .menu and .directory files I need to create in there [09:22] ogra: did you leave? === LaserJock never knows what machine Oli's on and where he is :-) [09:24] both [09:24] :) [09:24] i'm sitting in the middle [09:25] my only concern was that simply changing the cp line makes app-install.sh edubuntu specific [09:25] do you think that is an issue? [09:25] right now the Makefile only uses app-install.sh for the Edubuntu Add-on CD === aze [n=aze@41.31.76.208.dyn-ip.domaccess.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:31] in any case, I think this weekend I'll make the modifications, put in an initial applications.menu with .directory files, and put that up on launchpad for Colin to have a look at [09:40] i guess we'll need icons fr the meta .desktop files === ogra has to go now ... (late in germany) ... ciao ... [09:43] LaserJock: am now [09:45] ogra: cya [09:45] ogra: buh-bye [09:45] moquist: I happened, through a roundabout way, to end up on the FOSSED website [09:47] I was reading the fedora education list, and there was an email that somebody is updating the Open Source Victoria Fee Software for Schools book [09:47] LaserJock: ah! Welcome. [09:47] LaserJock: Yep, Bryant Patten. [09:47] yeah [09:47] Interested in coming? :) [09:47] well, I'd love to [09:47] but I don't think I can get the time off of work === moquist nods [09:47] but I ran through the list of topics [09:49] moquist: was a little disturbed by "We will explore easy ways to add these to your Linux desktop using Synaptice Manager and Automatix." thought ;-) [09:49] *though [09:49] heh - which session is that? === moquist didn't write that... [09:49] http://fossed.net/course/view.php?id=14 === moquist *wouldn't* write that... [09:50] heh, I had to chuckle [09:50] I think that's from last year. [09:50] is any of this geared towards community colleges or universities? [09:51] That presenter won't be there this year (too busy). She's great, full of energy and in love with Open Source. But she's a teacher-turned-tech-director, so definitely on the non-technical end of the scale. [09:51] Nope, though we aren't intentionally excluding anyone. [09:51] The core audience is solidly k-12. [09:52] hmm [09:52] we should do EduCons [09:52] I'd like to see some West Coast action [09:52] Gallaudet will be interesting, though, because I don't think we're connecting with that same community there. We're not really sure yet *who* will come to that one. (It's new this year.) [09:52] sure [09:52] WC is good. [09:53] maybe Google would lend us some facilities ;-) === skirk [n=skirk@host-84-221-84-181.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Sulamita [n=toska@zeus-ras.intranetparana.br] has left #edubuntu [] === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.41] has joined #edubuntu === racter [n=jake@c-67-167-206-34.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-150-157.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === froud_ [n=sean@dsl-242-186-212.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu === moose303 [n=robert@24-113-62-158.wavecable.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:26] do we need a soundcard on the server in order to have sound on the clients? [11:27] you should not need a sound card on the server. === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-120-184-15.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:29] moose303 - that's what i thought. i guess i don't know how to start working this out (it's not autodetected on any of the clients) [11:30] make sure you have sound=true in your lts.conf. I have always had mixed success with different sound cards also. [11:32] has anyone tried authentication to a novell edirectory network? === moose303 [n=robert@24-113-62-158.wavecable.com] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy_ [n=darryl@66.212.43.40] has joined #edubuntu