[12:21] <lynn> I'm trying to boot a ltsp client and getting an error:  "nfsmount:  need a path"
[12:22] <lynn> I have many other clients working, and this one worked a few minutes ago
[12:22] <lynn> any one have any clue as to what would cause this type of error?
[12:23] <lynn> from what I found on google, my server settings are fine, so I think there may be some problem with the client
[12:25] <cliebow> lynn: option root-path says?
[12:26] <lynn> it says "option root-path '/opt/ltsp/i386';"
[12:27] <lynn> and i'm only using PCs now
[12:28] <cliebow> seems fine
[12:28] <cliebow> might have to run wireshark and lok the packets over
[12:28] <cliebow> ltsp5?
[12:28] <lynn> yeah, all the other clients work fine
[12:29] <cliebow> any other msgs...like does it drop you to the initramfs?
[12:29] <lynn> yeah, it just did that like 30 sec ago
[12:30] <cliebow> i wonder if it isbalking at the network card in that box..like not getting second nfs
[12:30] <lynn> isbalking?
[12:31] <cliebow> is balking
[12:31] <lynn> o ok
[12:31] <cliebow> wireshark would tell you if it aactually asks for a  root-path
[12:31] <cliebow> what nic in the client?
[12:32] <lynn> a 3com 3c905b
[12:32] <cliebow> heck that should be fine
[12:33] <cliebow> might drop by #ltsp..that card should be ducky
[12:33] <lynn> i'll try a different card and see what i get
[12:33] <cliebow> cool!
[12:38] <lynn> it works! must have been a bogus card.  strange that it worked once
[12:38] <lynn> thanks for your help!
[01:03] <energymedia> Hi all, I have lost the top part of the conversation about LTSP - Im having issues I need some pointers on - Cliebow are you free for a few mins?
[06:57] <racter> i'm having trouble logging users out (on thin clients) - when they choose 'System->Quit' nothing appears to happen (but they are no longer able to start up new programs)
[09:11] <mariocesar_bo> Hi all, does anyone knows hot to do a Addon Cd like Edubuntu Server Addons
[09:11] <mariocesar_bo> Sorry my englis :-)=> Hi all, does anyone knows *how* to do a Addon CD like Edubuntu Server Addons
[09:12] <RichEd> mariocesar_bo: you download the .iso and burn the CD ... then pop it in ...
[09:12] <mariocesar_bo> RichEd: yea i know, what i wan't is do a similar cd with other apps
[09:12] <RichEd> it will also give you more applications for the (workstation) desktop
[09:13] <mariocesar_bo> like octave, axiom, openoffice-es, and others
[09:13] <RichEd> oh ... you mean build one yourself ?
[09:13] <mariocesar_bo> yea
[09:13] <RichEd> then you'll need to chat to ogra ... he put it together
[09:13] <mariocesar_bo> i like the Edubuntu Server Addons, it's so simple
[09:14] <RichEd> mariocesar_bo: that was the general idea :)
[09:14] <mariocesar_bo> so, what do i have to learn to do a similar cd with extra apps?
[09:14] <RichEd> chat to ogra when he is around in an hour or two ...
[09:15] <RichEd> when you build yours let us know what apps you put on, and maybe even let us have a copy ... it would be useful for us to look at.
[09:15] <mariocesar_bo> Great ^_^
[09:15] <mariocesar_bo> yea, ogra made the cd?
[09:15] <RichEd> indeed he did
[09:16] <mariocesar_bo> :O yea, so i would wait
[09:16] <mariocesar_bo> it's 3am on Bolivia but i will wait :D
[09:18] <RichEd> mariocesar_bo: did you get my /msg ? I gave you oliver's email
[09:18] <mariocesar_bo> yes
[09:18] <mariocesar_bo> thanks
[09:18] <ogra> well
[09:18] <mariocesar_bo> o men !
[09:18] <mariocesar_bo> hi ogra
[09:18] <RichEd> ahh ... mr grawert ... morning
[09:19] <ogra> i didnt 'make' the CD .... i only maintain it ...
[09:19] <ogra> our cd buildsystem on launchpad builds it ...
[09:20] <mariocesar_bo> :-) well, but dou you know how to do it?
[09:20] <ogra> but thats very specific and not how you would do it at home
[09:20] <mariocesar_bo> ok, i would check it
[09:20] <mariocesar_bo> thanks
[09:20] <mariocesar_bo> mmmm
[09:22] <mariocesar_bo> so, where i can find info about this?
[09:22] <ogra> http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/ i guess thats something rather for home use :)
[09:22] <mariocesar_bo> yea i use it
[09:22] <mariocesar_bo> but i just love the Edubuntu Server Addon, it's extremely simple
[09:22] <mariocesar_bo> and more intuitive that aptoncd
[09:26] <mariocesar_bo> this is the site project of Edubuntu addons, no ? => https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-addon-cd/
[09:27] <ogra> well, roughly what you need to do is build an archive structure (which there are tools for (i.e. apt-ftparchive)) and the app-install-data dir with the right .desktop files and icons ... put that in a directory tree and run mkisofs on it
[09:28] <ogra> but as i said i have not much to do with the backend in launchpad so i might miss pieces
[09:29] <mariocesar_bo> ok, i just want to get sure,  when i put the cd, it would launch the gnome-app-install?
[09:30] <ogra> it checks for some metadata if its a valid CD or not, just copy that from the edubuntu CD ;)
[09:30] <ogra> look for hidden dirs
[09:31] <mariocesar_bo> ok :D
[09:31] <mariocesar_bo> i would study this
[09:48] <maarten_> goodmorning
[09:48] <maarten_> CET at least.
[09:50] <maarten_> i have a question i could not find in the edubuntu web: is it possible to have edubuntu and normal ubuntu coexist? if i install edubuntu-desktop on top of my normal installation, it changes too many things for all users... i'd like to have the edubuntu look just for a specific user.
[09:53] <RichEd> maarten_: that is possible (to switch) let me find a help link for you
[09:54] <RichEd> here is one "help" link: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/howto-switch-from-ubuntu-to-kubuntu-or-xubuntu-or-edubuntu-or-vice-versa-610-edgy/
[09:57] <maarten_> RichEd: that does not really do what i want; here they really revert the installation
[09:57] <RichEd> i'm trying to find a link for "more dynamic switching" for you
[09:58] <maarten_> i think the main problem is that the edubuntu packages are not quite as modular as they could be...
[09:58] <maarten_> i mean, it's either all or nothing
[10:47] <RichEd> maarten_: perhaps you can mail the edubuntu-users and/or edubuntu-devel list
[10:47] <RichEd> i know jonathan carter (highvoltage) knows the best way to satisfy what you need
[10:47] <maarten_> RichEd: thanks, I will
[04:04] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:04] <aze> hi sbalneav
[04:04] <sbalneav> Hello aze
[04:05] <RichEd> hi sbalneav
[04:05] <sbalneav> He RichEd
[04:05] <sbalneav> s/He/Hey/
[04:05] <RichEd> Me RichEd He sbalneav
[04:05] <aze> eheh
[04:06] <sbalneav> There's a "Tarzan and Jane" joke in here somewhere.
[04:16] <RichEd> sbalneav: Richard & Jane ... or Dick & Jane
[04:16] <RichEd> :)
[04:16] <aze> eheh
[04:16] <RichEd> Like the old school books, before they realised it may not be such a good nickname.
[04:23] <Sulamita> RichEd: hello
[04:24] <RichEd> hi Sulamita
[04:25] <Sulamita> RichEd: did you get my mail?
[04:26] <RichEd> Sulamita: let me check ... when did you send it ?
[04:26] <RichEd> Okay got it ... will look at it now ...
[04:28] <Sulamita> ok
[04:29] <sbalneav> Sulamita: Are you the Sulamita from Brazil?
[04:30] <RichEd> sbalneav: indeed she is ... ms intel LAMs ... the very same from sevilla
[04:30] <sbalneav> Ah, cool.
[04:31] <RichEd> Sulamita: I'll check out the confernce and give it some thought ... I however do not make the financial decisions, but I'll get back to you with comments.
[04:31] <sbalneav> Welcome to #edubuntu.
[04:32] <Sulamita> sbalneav: thanks :)
[04:32] <Sulamita> RichEd: I thought so, just want to assure that the financial would be just for your travel
[04:32] <RichEd> Sulamita: okay thanks :)
[04:38] <sbalneav> I think some people in this channel have really let me down.
[04:38] <sbalneav> I mean, really, how come no one's ever told me about lifrea before?!?!
[04:38] <sbalneav> It's awesome!
[05:58] <moquist> can *any* preseed value be placed on the kernel command line (within the 255 char limit)?
[05:59] <moquist> For example, I have preseed/locale=en_US kbd-chooser/method=us but it's still asking about keyboard config.
[06:49] <Yagisan> C'day cbx33
[06:49] <cbx33> hey Yagisan
[06:50] <cbx33> awesome
[06:50] <Yagisan> cbx33, can you see this www site -> http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8010/
[06:51] <Yagisan> but I'm not sure if dns is working, or if my config is borked
[06:51] <cbx33> yup i can see that
[06:52] <Yagisan> yes
[06:53] <Yagisan> technically the i386 box there is edubuntu ... but still
[06:57] <cbx33> coooool
[07:00] <Yagisan> cbx33, I think it is rather cool. Now I get automated "you broke my code" messages
[07:06] <cbx33> hehehe
[07:40] <yuriy> heya cbx33
[07:43] <cbx33> hey yuriy
[07:51] <yuriy> cbx33: did you get my last emails?
[07:52] <yuriy> i'll be gone over the weekend but i hope to get some stuff done next week
[07:54] <cbx33> ok cool
[07:54] <cbx33> i don't rememder seeing one~
[07:54] <cbx33> I'll check later
[08:20] <LaserJock> hmm, no where did Oli run off to?
[08:20] <LaserJock> *now
[08:56] <LaserJock> ogra!
[09:08] <LaserJock> moquist: you around?
[09:13] <Sulamita> ogra_e2300: hei!
[09:13] <ogra_e2300> Sulamita, !!!!!
[09:15] <LaserJock> ogra_e2300: I think I've figured out how to get our menu modifications for the add-on CD
[09:15] <Burgundavia> hey ogra
[09:16] <ogra_e2300> LaserJock, you rock
[09:16] <ogra_e2300> i figured out how to boot thin clients twice as fast with a union/sqhashfs/mbd combo ;)
[09:16] <ogra_e2300> *err nbd
[09:16] <LaserJock> ogra_e2300: I don't suppose you have a bzr branch of debian-cd do you?
[09:17] <ogra_e2300> nope
[09:17] <ogra_e2300> i think the only valid branch is colins
[09:17] <LaserJock> well, in the gutsy tools there is a script called app-install.sh
[09:18] <LaserJock> I think you can imagine what that does ;-)
[09:18] <LaserJock> it's got a simple line:
[09:18] <LaserJock> cp -a "$TMP/usr/share/app-install/desktop/applications.menu" \
[09:18] <LaserJock>     "$DIR/app-install/desktop/" || true
[09:19] <LaserJock> we just need to change that to copy from "our" source
[09:19] <ogra_e2300> heh, trivial
[09:19] <LaserJock> there is already a data/gutsy/ dir in debian-cd
[09:19] <LaserJock> that has the *buntu boot splashes, etc.
[09:20] <LaserJock> I was thinking we could just create an edubuntu-addon dir in there
[09:20] <ogra_e2300> sounds ok
[09:20] <LaserJock> and I can put the .menu and .directory files I need to create in there
[09:22] <LaserJock> ogra: did you leave?
[09:24] <ogra> both
[09:24] <ogra> :)
[09:24] <ogra> i'm sitting in the middle
[09:25] <LaserJock> my only concern was that simply changing the cp line makes app-install.sh edubuntu specific
[09:25] <LaserJock> do you think that is an issue?
[09:25] <LaserJock> right now the Makefile only uses app-install.sh for the Edubuntu Add-on CD
[09:31] <LaserJock> in any case, I think this weekend I'll make the modifications, put in an initial applications.menu with .directory files, and put that up on launchpad for Colin to have a look at
[09:40] <ogra> i guess we'll need icons fr the meta .desktop files
[09:43] <moquist> LaserJock: am now
[09:45] <LaserJock> ogra: cya
[09:45] <moquist> ogra: buh-bye
[09:45] <LaserJock> moquist: I happened, through a roundabout way, to end up on the FOSSED website
[09:47] <LaserJock> I was reading the fedora education list, and there was an email that somebody is updating the Open Source Victoria Fee Software for Schools book
[09:47] <moquist> LaserJock: ah! Welcome.
[09:47] <moquist> LaserJock: Yep, Bryant Patten.
[09:47] <LaserJock> yeah
[09:47] <moquist> Interested in coming? :)
[09:47] <LaserJock> well, I'd love to
[09:47] <LaserJock> but I don't think I can get the time off of work
[09:47] <LaserJock> but I ran through the list of topics
[09:49] <LaserJock> moquist: was a little disturbed by "We will explore easy ways to add these to your Linux desktop using Synaptice Manager and Automatix." thought ;-)
[09:49] <LaserJock> *though
[09:49] <moquist> heh - which session is that?
[09:49] <LaserJock> http://fossed.net/course/view.php?id=14
[09:50] <LaserJock> heh, I had to chuckle
[09:50] <moquist> I think that's from last year.
[09:50] <LaserJock> is any of this geared towards community colleges or universities?
[09:51] <moquist> That presenter won't be there this year (too busy). She's great, full of energy and in love with Open Source. But she's a teacher-turned-tech-director, so definitely on the non-technical end of the scale.
[09:51] <moquist> Nope, though we aren't intentionally excluding anyone.
[09:51] <moquist> The core audience is solidly k-12.
[09:52] <LaserJock> hmm
[09:52] <LaserJock> we should do EduCons
[09:52] <LaserJock> I'd like to see some West Coast action
[09:52] <moquist> Gallaudet will be interesting, though, because I don't think we're connecting with that same community there. We're not really sure yet *who* will come to that one. (It's new this year.)
[09:52] <moquist> sure
[09:52] <moquist> WC is good.
[09:53] <LaserJock> maybe Google would lend us some facilities ;-)
[11:26] <racter> do we need a soundcard on the server in order to have sound on the clients?
[11:27] <moose303> you should not need a sound card on the server.
[11:29] <racter> moose303 - that's what i thought.  i guess i don't know how to start working this out (it's not autodetected on any of the clients)
[11:30] <moose303> make sure you have sound=true in your lts.conf.  I have always had mixed success with different sound cards also.
[11:32] <moose303> has anyone tried authentication to a novell edirectory network?