[12:16] <elrodro> thanks billiard
[12:18] <see-g> hi there :)
[12:18] <saber__> hi see-g
[12:19] <saber__> !info xfonts-intl-arabic
[12:19] <ubotu> xfonts-intl-arabic: International fonts for X -- Arabic. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-6ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB
[12:19] <snooper> i have a problem - after installing feisty on an extern disc, the istallation doesn't come to a good end
[12:20] <saber__> how?
[12:20] <snooper> now, after rebooting the system i get the messages grub loading, please wait ...
[12:20] <snooper> error 21
[12:20] <snooper> and i cound#t start windows from the internal disk
[12:29] <jack-> question: can i lock a certain package/version for apt? so that apt-get upgrade doesnt touch that one ever?
[12:30] <jriachi> jack-: i guess you can do it via    man apt_preferences
[12:30] <misha> jack-: ya sure, I used to do that kind of thing through synaptic
[12:33] <jack-> jriachi, misha: ok thx
[12:33] <pagan0ne> hey, anyone here have any expirence getting a logitech MX5000 bluetooth keyboard working?
[12:33] <jack-> you know, nvidia removed support for older chips in their new closed driver
[12:33] <jack-> so apt-get upgrade gave me hell
[12:36] <jriachi> (for the log: the  "mail multimedia key", seems to be hardcoded in the kmilo program)
[12:37] <zach_> Locking a package in Synaptic won't keep it from being upgraded via "apt-get upgrade"
[12:37] <zach_> You have to pin the package in /etc/apt/preferences
[12:37] <elrodro> ok guys
[12:38] <elrodro> billiard try to do his best
[12:38] <zach_> jack-: Get that? :-)
[12:38] <elrodro> but it didn't work
[12:38] <elrodro> who wants to have a totally free cartoon if he/or she helps me to install gimpshop
[12:39] <jack-> great
[12:39] <jack-> zach_: thx
[12:39] <zach_> NP
[12:39] <elrodro> and make my kaffeine player works
[12:39] <jack-> !lart nvidia
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lart nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <elrodro> I know this is childplay for must of you
[12:40] <misha> elrodro: you sure you want gimpshop?
[12:40] <jack-> ubotu: you suck.
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you suck. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <jack-> ;)
[12:40] <elrodro> yep
[12:40] <elrodro> Im used to use photoshop
[12:40] <zach_> elrodro: You don't have to bribe people to get help in here. ;-)
[12:40] <jack-> a blootbot without lart...shrug
[12:40] <zach_> It's kind of unbecoming.
[12:40] <misha> elrodro: and you know that it only looks like photoshop if you're in winblows
[12:40] <elrodro> is not brabe
[12:40] <elrodro> is helping each others with our talent
[12:40] <elrodro> :)
[12:41] <misha> otherwise it's just gimp with rearranged menus
[12:41] <elrodro> yep
[12:41] <elrodro> that works for me
[12:41] <misha> fine
[12:41] <misha> 2secs and I'll found how I did it
[12:41] <elrodro> winblows?
[12:42] <misha> elrodro: yes that horrble nonfree OS, are you familiar with alien (the app that is)?
[12:42] <elrodro> winblows= windows but it blow because it doesn't work?
[12:42] <elrodro> lol
[12:42] <elrodro> I get it
[12:43] <zach_> I found a nice little Konqueror service menu for Alien last night. I can look it up real quick if you want, misha
[12:44] <Billiard> elrodro check out the pm
[12:44] <misha> elrodro: http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[12:44] <misha> that should do you, sorry no pm
[12:44] <misha> zach_: it's ok thanks
[12:44] <zach_> NP
[12:45] <zach_> Does anyone know how to find the module name for my wireless card? I'm going by an ndiswrapper guide that only explains how to do so using the GNOME settings tool. :-\
[12:46] <RadiantFire> zach_: what do you mean by module name?
[12:46] <RadiantFire> zach_: the module is ndiswrapper
[12:47] <zach_> RadiantFire: What I need to put in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so that the built-in kernel module for my card (which doesn't work) won't load, so that I can use the Windoze driver
[12:47] <RadiantFire> zach_: ahh... what type of card is it
[12:48] <zach_> Atheros AR5005G. I read it worked for some people out of the box, while others had to go the ndiswrapper route.
[12:48] <misha> madwifi isn't it?
[12:48] <pagan0ne> anyone here have any luck getting a bluetooth keyboard running?
[12:49] <zach_> Umm... Haven't tried madwifi. I found a listing for it on the ndiswrapper page that said it will work under it, so I'm trying that first.
[12:49] <misha> elrodro: http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop_2.2.11-1_i386.deb in case you are still trying
[12:49] <RadiantFire> zach_: try adding ath_pci as the module
[12:49] <RadiantFire> that might work
[12:50] <zach_> RadiantFire: Worst case scenario, it just won't work, but it won't mess anything else up, right?
[12:50] <RadiantFire> zach_: yeah, nothing will braek, you can still modprobe the modules manually anyway
[12:50] <RadiantFire> zach_: wait, hang on
[12:50] <RadiantFire> zach_: you should have to remove a module to get ndiswrapper to bind to the device
[12:50] <RadiantFire> zach_: does lsmod say you have ath_pci loaded?
[12:51] <zach_> Yeah
[12:52] <RadiantFire> zach_: then thats probably it, does it have any dependencies listed
[12:52] <RadiantFire> zach_: I discovered the hardway, that if a blacklisted module is required by an other module, it gets loaded anyway
[12:52] <zach_> Under the "Used by" column?
[12:52] <mzanfardino> ok, anyone have any suggests for a problem I'm having with flash?  Specifically I've installed kubuntu x86_64 and am running firefox with gnash and klash installed, but my flash does not appear to render correctly... usually a blank space where the flash item should be...
[12:54] <nosrednaekim> mzanfardino: I've had good results with nspluginwrapper and the proprietary flash
[12:54] <zach_> ath_pci has "0" under the "Used by" column
[12:54] <RadiantFire> zach_: okie dokie, this is good I think
[12:55] <mzanfardino> nosrednaekim: I'm unfamiliar with nspluginwrapper.
[12:55] <pagan0ne> mzanfardino: nspluginwrapper works pretty well, and i know people here dont like it, but i know automatix has "swiftfox" which is a repacked firefox with flash plugins installed that works on amd64
[12:55] <zach_> There are, however, several other modules that have ath_pci listed in their "Used by" section, wlan being one of them. Could that cause any problems?
[12:56] <mzanfardino> pagan0ne: I tent to steer aware from automatix.
[12:56] <mzanfardino> pagan0ne: is that the only way to get it?
[12:56] <nosrednaekim> zach_: yeah.. you have to rmmod those to
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> mzanfardino: yeah.. go get nspluginwrapper.
[12:57] <pagan0ne> mzanfardino: its the only way i found "swiftfox" you could try to google it, i came accrost it by accident just playing with automatix, although automatix is a hack.... it does basically the same thing nspluginwrapper would do
[12:57] <mzanfardino> nosrednaekim: searching web for it now
[12:57] <zach_> nosrednaekim: Sorry, but I have no idea what that means?
[12:57] <nosrednaekim> pagan0ne: except nspluginwrapper has never broken anyone's upgrade
[12:58] <nosrednaekim> zach_: you have to get rid of those modules as well
[12:58] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:58] <zach_> nosrednaekim: So blacklist all of them too?
[12:58] <pagan0ne> nosrednaekim: i agree with that, hence i said automatix was a hack
[12:59] <pagan0ne> http://getswiftfox.com/  is the swiftfox url
[12:59] <pagan0ne> so i take it noone here has tried to get a bluetooth keyboard working under kubuntu?
[01:00] <zach_> nosrednaekim: Or just remove "ath_pci" from their "Used by" columns?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> zach_: no.. they are dependencies of ath_pci. so you can just blacklist ath_pci
[01:01] <elrodro> hey thanks for the webpage
[01:01] <zach_> Ok... Thanks
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> zach_: what are you editing?
[01:01] <elrodro> hey guys
[01:01] <elrodro> when some one
[01:01] <zach_>  "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[01:01] <elrodro> how do I make the letters go red
[01:02] <elrodro> if I want to call the atention of someone?
[01:02] <mzanfardino> swiftfox is the shit!
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> zach_: ah.. ok
[01:02] <mzanfardino> and I mean that is a good way! :)
[01:02] <zach_> elrodro: A message shows up red to whoever's name it contains
[01:02] <pagan0ne> elrodro: just type the persons name first
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: put someones name in the message
[01:02] <Chucky> Hello, I've a problem. I tried installing Kubuntu but the motherboard(P4C800-E-DELUXE) beeps every second and I can see this message on the screen before Kubuntu starts: EDAC MC0: UE page 0x18dd..  I booted with windows to ask you what to do, before installing Kubuntu. The beep must stop, but ECC must stay one. No, my RAM is absolutely okey, no errors.
[01:02] <elrodro> ok
[01:02] <elrodro> misha do you see your name in red?
[01:03] <elrodro> it must be first?
[01:03] <Chucky> I hope somebody can help me
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: any idea what EDAC is?
[01:03] <Chucky> yes
[01:03] <elrodro> misha: are you still there?
[01:03] <zach_> Thanks again for the help RadiantFire, nosrednaekim. Good luck, everyone. I'm out
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: what is it?
[01:03] <elrodro> mmm
[01:04] <Chucky> Error Detection   and  Correction
[01:04] <Chucky> short ECC function of my motherboard
[01:04] <elrodro> ok
[01:05] <elrodro> so any one can help me with my dvd problem?
[01:05] <Chucky> Kubuntu thinks my   ram has errors. But that's definately wrong. I've tested it
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: do you have plug and play OS enabled? or any OS specific settings?
[01:05] <elrodro> this appears on the messae
[01:05] <Chucky> yes pnp os is enabled in bios
[01:05] <elrodro> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/dvd
[01:05] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: oh it does?
[01:05] <elrodro> The source can't be read.
[01:05] <elrodro> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (/dev/dvd)
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: I assume you actually have a disc in the drive.
[01:06] <Chucky> yes, Kubuntu starts and I want to install it, but that beep really makes me mad, so I ask you what to do before continueing installation
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: can you turn off the beep in the BIOS?
[01:06] <Chucky> no
[01:07] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: turn off POST..
[01:07] <pagan0ne> Chucky: when you burnt the disc, did you verify data after write, or did you just try to reboot and install?
[01:07] <Chucky> I verified it, really
[01:08] <Chucky> even if I could turn off beep, it would not stop the error, just a symptom
[01:08] <pagan0ne> Chucky: ok, ive had that problem before, and it turned out i had a dvd burner going bad, because it always fauled verification
[01:08] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: P4 you say? are you sure its not overheating?
[01:08] <elrodro> so I stay the same
[01:09] <Chucky> CPU: 50C Motherboard: 30C that's ok
[01:09] <misha> elrodro: sorry I'm here, what is it?>
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: what program are you using for DVD?
[01:09] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: but thats not in Linux. does it start beeping IMMEDIATELY on boot.. or only after awhile?
[01:10] <pagan0ne> anyone here have any luck getting a bluetooth keyboard running?
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> !bluetooth
[01:10] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[01:10] <Chucky> after a while.. I mean it is  really  linux.. Linux keeps sending those EDAC Error messages
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: could be temps...
[01:11] <pagan0ne> ubotu: its not setting up bluetooth thats the problem, its getting the keyboard to pair
[01:11] <Chucky> I had windows up and running for over 12hours now
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> !bot
[01:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:11] <Chucky> I've enough of it ;)
[01:11] <Chucky> hehe
[01:11] <misha> elrodro: I can't reply to your private messages cos I'm not registered on freenode
[01:12] <pagan0ne> nosrednaekim: lol i missed that, anyway its getting the keyboard to pair to the computer i cant manage to do, i can get other devices to pair
[01:12] <adaptr> Chucky EDAC errors being.. what ?
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: yeah. But Llinux might have frequency scaling problems with p4's... i've seen it b4 on my brother's computer
[01:12] <Chucky> EDAC Errors means that it thinks that my ram is bad. OK, I'll install an other cooler. But if it is not the temps?
[01:13] <Chucky> And I'm sure it is not the temps.. CPU is 45-50 never over it..
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: you can check the temps in LInux.
[01:13] <Chucky> But I have not linux :(
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> although its not exactly easy
[01:14] <Chucky> I wanted to install it, but the beep made me sick. So I'm just trying to find some help to "remove" the beeps
[01:14] <elrodro> any expert
[01:14] <elrodro> on dvd problems
[01:14] <Minataku> EDAC - Error Detection And Correction
[01:14] <elrodro> with kubuntu?
[01:15] <Minataku> Chucky: As for removing the beeps, look inside the case for a speaker, trace the wires to the mainboard and pull out the connector
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: what program are you using?
[01:15] <Minataku> That's temporary
[01:15] <elrodro> kaffeine
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: some motherboards have inbuilt speakers for the bios
[01:15] <Chucky> yes But I don`t want to remove the beeps just the reason for the beeps, you know
[01:15] <Minataku> The proper solution is to fix the RAM or whatever hardware is causing the errors
[01:16] <Minataku> Run a program called Memtest86
[01:16] <elrodro> and kmp player
[01:16] <Chucky> The Hardware is 100% OK
[01:16] <Chucky> I`ve tested over 3days with memtest with and without ECC
[01:17] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: hmmm... go over to #linux.
[01:17] <Minataku> Chucky: If there are EDAC errors, the hardware is NOT okay
[01:17] <Minataku> Period.
[01:17] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Right, right, SMT piezo buzzers
[01:18] <Minataku> Which are decidedly harder to temporarily disable
[01:18] <Chucky> I've read about some other people having the same motherboard, it seems linux IS having problems with it's ECC
[01:18] <Minataku> Which would indicate a poorly designed or built mainboard
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: annoying little things/... but nothing a soldering iron can't fix.
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[01:18] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Indeed, indeed
[01:19] <Minataku> As long as it's through-hole
[01:19] <Minataku> If it's actually SMT then you're boned
[01:19] <Minataku> Since you'd need a reflow station
[01:19] <Minataku> Chucky: Build your own kernel, disable EDAC when configuring
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: go over to #linux and complain to those gurus.
[01:19] <Minataku> Problem solved
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: ehh..... you can just BURN it off... :)
[01:20] <Minataku> That's the only solution I can offer until EDAC is modified to work for this board either by fix or by blacklist
[01:21] <Minataku> I've had a similar kind of kernel issue, though mine had an external workaround (I disabled the feature in the kernel anyway)
[01:21] <pagan0ne> Minataku: but that creates a chicken and egg syndrom, how can he boot linux to compile a kernel w/o EDAC support, to beable to boot linux?
[01:21] <Minataku> pagan0ne: Compile a kernel on another system
[01:21] <Minataku> One that doesn't have these dumbass EDAC issues
[01:22] <Minataku> I just returned from dinner
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> pagan0ne: you can disable EDAC... its not system-stopping
[01:22] <Minataku> I missed that he was unable to boot Linux
[01:22] <Minataku> Have you tried the alternate install CD?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: no.. he can boot and potential install from what i've heard
[01:22] <Minataku> Ah
[01:22] <Minataku> Like I said, I missed all that
[01:22] <Minataku> But yeah, you'll need to compile a custom kernel without EDAC support either way
[01:23] <pagan0ne> Minataku: that would work for some of us geeks, assuming we had 2 boxen, and could then manage to roll the compiled kernel back into the distro
[01:23] <Minataku> Heh
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. NP...just clearing things up
[01:23] <Chucky> I'm able to boot Linux But I don't want to live with beeps!
[01:23] <Minataku> Chucky: That's why you have to compile a kernel without EDAC
[01:24] <pagan0ne> Chucky: oo, then compile w/o EDAC support... lol
[01:24] <pagan0ne> what they said
[01:24] <Chucky> is there not switch? /noedac? I'm a windows user sorry..
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: and thats why you just disable EDAC since its obviously not a problem with your hardware
[01:24] <Minataku> I'll look
[01:24] <Minataku> See if there's a boot option perhaps
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> there's a boot option for anything else. ;)
[01:25] <pagan0ne> my boots have a strap or velcro option.....
[01:25] <Minataku> There might not be a boot option but there seems to be a sysfs option
[01:25] <Chucky> I don't know linux very good, I absolutely don't know howto compile a kernel, that's just too complex for me
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> there is only ONE satisfying way to boot a computer
[01:26] <Minataku> Chucky: The sysfs way would be a hacky fix, you'd have to do it every boot
[01:26] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Don't even insinuate
[01:26] <pagan0ne> with a shotgun?
[01:26] <Minataku> I'll have your systems confiscated for abuse
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: heh.... yeah. well that is sort of a "sink or swim" thing
[01:26] <Chucky> hope I can get it installed,   before windows is the last option
[01:26] <elrodro> nosrednaekim
[01:26] <elrodro> I can't chat with you
[01:26] <elrodro> in the private sesion
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: hehe....actually it doesn't ork too well on my laptop
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: yeah?
[01:27] <Minataku> Crap, I don't have EDAC in my kernel
[01:27] <elrodro> yep
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: thats odd..
[01:27] <elrodro> yep
[01:27] <elrodro> haha
[01:27] <elrodro> well it didn't wokr
[01:27] <elrodro> work
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: I might... whats the command?
[01:27] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: The unregistered user restriction is on by default
[01:27] <Minataku> Not off
[01:27] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: Check /sys/devices/system/ for edac/
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: I'm registered
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: will do
[01:27] <elrodro> I believe
[01:27] <elrodro> Im too
[01:27] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: elrodro probably isn't
[01:27] <elrodro> well
[01:28] <elrodro> well any way
[01:28] <Minataku> Oh, f*ck these dumbass services
[01:28] <elrodro> i try to fix that for mor than 2 hour
[01:28] <elrodro> s
[01:28] <Minataku> "Unknown command [status] "
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: yeah.. I don't have it either
[01:28] <Minataku> What the hell kind of leaky-ass ship is this
[01:28] <elrodro> hahaha
[01:28] <Chucky> The LINUX GOD TOLD ME THIS: "Chucky: You're not alone! http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/5/28/126"
[01:28] <elrodro> I thin linux
[01:29] <elrodro> it's too technical for me
[01:29] <Minataku> elrodro: You're NOT registered, or not identified
[01:29] <elrodro> and how I do that?
[01:29] <Minataku> I fell back on checking via /whois
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: are you sure your dvd drive is working?
[01:29] <Chucky> But that's the exact same message I've read before..I asked you for help
[01:29] <Minataku> elrodro: /msg nickserv help register
[01:29] <elrodro> is not working
[01:29] <Minataku> nosrednaekim: EDAC is fairly new
[01:30] <elrodro> well
[01:30] <Minataku> I think if a system doesn't have it, it's never enabled
[01:30] <elrodro> I go to eat something
[01:30] <Chucky> not on windows..
[01:30] <elrodro> I tried I really tried
[01:30] <Chucky> and redhat
[01:30] <elrodro> see you later guys
[01:30] <Minataku> Later
[01:30] <Chucky> as I know....
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> Minataku: Chucky: there you go... blacklist EDAC
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: after installing
[01:30] <Minataku> Ah, yes, Kubuntu has a blacklisting feature
[01:30] <Chucky> what's that`? howto?
[01:31] <Chucky> never had installed kubuntu, sorry
[01:31] <Minataku> You'll just have to put up with the beeping during installation
[01:31] <Chucky> I'm a totally  new fish in tis aquarium..
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: no... that page didn;t say that. but it says thats an option.
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> or at least alludes to it
[01:31] <Minataku> Grab a Sansa or some other non-Apple MP3 player and listen to some tunes while you install
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: yeah.. just install it.. and then we can get rid of the sounds the very next boot.
[01:32] <Minataku> I say non-Apple because Microsoft Jr. doesn't need more money
[01:32] <Chucky> I've a Meizu it  better than any other mp3 player ;)
[01:33] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:33] <Chucky> this is the only wisdom I can give you, 10 of 10 point for  meizu.com tthat 8GB thingy is wow
[01:33] <ejortegau> hey.
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: actually you can rmmod the EDAC module while installing
[01:33] <Chucky> rmmod?
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> hi Ace2016
[01:33] <Minataku> ReMove MODule
[01:33] <Ace2016> hi
[01:33] <Chucky> remove?
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: yeah... it remeove the module making the beeps and error messages
[01:33] <pagan0ne> Chucky: rmmod meand remove the edac module while its running
[01:34] <RadiantFire> you can also use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist to prevent the module from ever being loaded
[01:34] <Ace2016> anyone know how to get rdesktop to output sound to alsa? it says  /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:34] <Minataku> Figure out what's blocking /dev/dsp
[01:34] <ejortegau> say i want to move contents of /usr from the partition mounted under / to a separate partition. Of course i can change the fstab and put /dev/sdaX   /usr, but i see that kubuntu uses some UID==WEIRDNUMBERSHERE... how should i proceed?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: yeah but  not off the liveCD
[01:34] <Minataku> Probably something stupid like artsd
[01:35] <Minataku> Or whatever sound interim crap KDE uses
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: I don't think you need the UUID..
[01:35] <Chucky> OK, I put the cd in, and see the install screen. then I hit enter? or F6?? because maybe there's a noedac switch like the rmmod thingy
[01:35] <Minataku> Chucky: Boot as normal
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: just hit enter...rmmod comes later
[01:35] <RadiantFire> nosrednaekim: this is true.... missed the fact it was live cd
[01:35] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: where does this UUID come from?
[01:35] <RadiantFire> ejortegau: UUID comes from the program vol_id
[01:36] <Chucky> It's really sad.
[01:36] <RadiantFire> ejortegau: you can get them by doing things likfve vol_id /dev/hda
[01:36] <alfredo> buenas noches
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> !es | alfredo
[01:36] <ubotu> alfredo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:37] <alfredo> no solo saludos
[01:37] <Chucky> ok I  can't talk to you while installing, so what do I have to do?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: oh yeah you can...
[01:37] <Chucky> *
[01:37] <jriachi> hello
[01:37] <Chucky> ?
[01:37] <ejortegau> so i should just get this vol_id from the new partition, change fstab so that UUID==whatever is mounted under /usr, move stuff and that's it?
[01:38] <RadiantFire> Ace2016: try using artswrapper rdesktop
[01:38] <pagan0ne> Chucky: reboot, kubuntu will bring up a desktop, goto the kde menu, internet, konversation, and logon here
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: kubuntu has an IRC client that you can use while installing
[01:39] <Chucky> okey. I really need some ear-protector which protects my ears from linux sound, lol
[01:39] <ejortegau> guys?
[01:39] <zach_> RadiantFire and nosrednaekim - Thanks a LOT!! I finally got wi-fi working. :-D
[01:39] <Ace2016> RadiantFire: well i'm running windows xp in virtualbox and using rdesktop to get just windows apps to appear on my linux desktop, but i realised i can use rdesktop -rsound:remote to do it since remote is still this computer since its a virtual machine
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: you can rmmod!
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> zach_: cool!
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> Ace2016: amarok is far better... not to start any flame wars or anything
[01:39] <RadiantFire> mmm... exciting
[01:39] <DexterF> can somebody confirm: upper left corner as trigger for beryl's "scale" doesn't work
[01:40] <RadiantFire> zach_: that is good :-)
[01:40] <RadiantFire> yeah, amarok does r0x0riz3
[01:40] <zach_> One tiny little thing though. KNetworkManager isn't listing the wireless device. It's right there in KControl and it's working properly. Any ideas?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> DexterF: I think its upper right?
[01:40] <DexterF> I changed it, annoyed me there
[01:40] <RadiantFire> zach_: what does your /etc/network/interfaces file say?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> zach_: Knetworkmanager is crap.
[01:40] <zach_> Ace2016: Have you tried Amarok?
[01:40] <Chucky> Dude I've never heard of ubuntu before. I got told it's   THE supreme OS, and I've seen it and believe that. So rmmod doesn't tell me anything
[01:40] <DexterF> it only works when no window is full size
[01:40] <RadiantFire> nosrednaekim: don't say that, its not
[01:40] <RadiantFire> its dead useful on laptops
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: not on mine...
[01:40] <Ace2016> nosrednaekim: yea its better with the media library and stuff but winamp has this dsp plugin which i always use when i run linux so since i have seamless rdesktop i see no reason not to run winamp
[01:41] <DexterF> Chucky: removes kernel modules. think "driver"
[01:41] <RadiantFire> nosrednaekim: ever heard the story of the wolf and the grapes
[01:41] <RadiantFire> nosrednaekim: I love it
[01:41] <zach_> RadiantFire: What part of it should I be looking at?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: actually I think the grapes are good..
[01:41] <Ace2016> but when i'm not running winamp i use juk instead of amarok
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: so no.. i'm not ze wolf
[01:41] <RadiantFire> zach_: does it have anything that isn't auto?
[01:42] <RadiantFire> zach_: generally, the only thing that should be in that file is auto lo \ iface lo inet loopback
[01:42] <RadiantFire> other entries can interfere with network manager
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: also... if you have atheros... make sure you have both a wlan0 and an ath0
[01:42] <Chucky> okey I reboot now. Do I need to know something before, because of to the edac isse?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> sorry.. zach_
[01:42] <RadiantFire> nosrednaekim: I don't have atheros
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Chucky: nope
[01:42] <Chucky> k cu
[01:42] <zach_> RadiantFire: "iface ath0 inet dhcp" but "auto ath0" is right under that.
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: yeah... wrong nick.. sorry
[01:43] <RadiantFire> zach_: you might try commenting that out, comments are '#' at the beginning of the line
[01:43] <RadiantFire> zach_: after that, you may have to restart either network-manager or your computer
[01:44] <RadiantFire> sometimes /etc/init.d/networking restart is sufficient
[01:44] <zach_> RadiantFire: Would you mind taking a look at the file if I pastebin it? Sorry, I'm just afraid I'm gonna mess something up after all that work.
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: in order for devices to work with netweorkmanager they can't be in /etc/netwrok/interfaces?
[01:44] <RadiantFire> nosrednaekim: it used to be that way
[01:44] <RadiantFire> Idon't know if it still is, but its something to check
[01:45] <RadiantFire> I know they cannotb e static configs, but sometimes dynamic configs mess it up too
[01:45] <RadiantFire> zach_: sure
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: interesting... maybe thats why it wasn't working for me.
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> RadiantFire: something to try at least.
[01:45] <RadiantFire> that fixed it for me back when networkmanager first hit the repos
[01:45] <RadiantFire> I think in breezy or dapper
[01:45] <RadiantFire> can't remember which
[01:45] <zach_> RadiantFire: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24651/ Thanks
[01:45] <pagan0ne> i cant beleave im going to install vista to get my keyboard to work....
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> pagan0ne: yeah well... did you do some googleing?
[01:46] <RadiantFire> zach_: out of curiousity, why do you have manual configs for your loopback iface?
[01:46] <RadiantFire> then again, it doesn't really matter
[01:46] <pagan0ne> nosrednaekim: yes and my keyboard is supposed to be suppoeted, but it doesnt work, so i googled for help, and all the help i got doesnt work for me
[01:47] <RadiantFire> zach_: commenting out everything under netmask 255.... won't hurt anything, and you can always put it back later. I have a hunch that might help though
[01:47] <pagan0ne> nosrednaekim: theres even custom utilities made for my keyboard under linux, but they assume the keyboard is already functioning
[01:47] <zach_> RadiantFire: Not sure. I haven't touched that file manually. Just followed this tutorial - http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide/
[01:48] <RadiantFire> zach_: well, that might help, I'm gonna eat dinner, brb in 15
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> pagan0ne: oh.. ok... well try #linux... they may be a little more knoledgeable over there
[01:48] <dad> Hello. desktop effects= compiz?
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> dad: are you in ubuntu or kubunut?
[01:48] <zach_> RadiantFire: Thanks, I'll try that. Peace
[01:49] <pagan0ne> nosrednaekim: thanks
[01:49] <dad> nosrednaekim: The one with Gnome.
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> dad: go over to #ubuntu for that
[01:49] <dad> thanks
[01:50] <Bearcat> hey all
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> hi.
[01:52] <Bearcat> i'm going  a bit nuts here. I'm trying to upgrade a kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 (and then to 7.04) using the CD (internet is not an option). Following these instructions (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades?highlight=%28upgrade%29) i get a bunch of errors.  First off i didn't have gksu installed which the script seemed to need. So i installed that and am told Failed to open device
[01:52] <Bearcat> can't find DistUpgradeViewGtk.   I really don't want to install gnome just to do an update.
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: do you have the alternate installer?
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> Cd.
[01:53] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: yup
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: are you upgrading off of that?
[01:54] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: yes
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> i mean... booting it?
[01:54] <Bearcat> i am entering gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[01:55] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: nossddff
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> eh?what?
[01:55] <Bearcat> no, i've mounted it in /media/cdrom and am trying to run the cdromupgrade script
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: you can't do that I don't think..
[01:56] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: look over the page i just linked
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> I am.. my internet is REALLY slow though.
[01:56] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: my friends internet is slow too, hence why i am doing it over the cdrom :)
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> lol
[01:57] <Minataku> CR28305 to Driver Lv38
[01:58] <Sanne> Bearcat: those instructions seem to be a bit Ubuntu specific and might not be applicable exactly to Kubuntu.
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: wait.. do you have the kubunt installer or ubuntu?
[01:58] <Minataku> If they involve GNOME or the Ubuntu install system, they're useless for Kubuntu
[01:58] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim: i downloaded the kubuno alternate disk.
[01:58] <Bearcat> yeah i know, but kubuntu specific instructions are not to be found
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: then I don't think it has this option.
[01:58] <elrodro> hi
[01:59] <Minataku> Hm
[01:59] <elrodro> look
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: do it by mooting off the cd.
[01:59] <elrodro> I saw
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> *booting
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: yeah?
[01:59] <Minataku> My troll sensors are going off
[01:59] <elrodro> something that may help me to use the dvd
[01:59] <Bearcat> nosrednaekim alright, i will
[01:59] <zach_> Hey nosrednaekim - That suggestion from RadiantFire on getting KNetworkManager to work by editing /etc/network/interfaces worked for me, in case you wanted to try it.
[01:59] <Minataku> Not from anyone talking
[01:59] <zach_> nosrednaekim: Had to reboot for it to take effect though.
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> zach_: yeah I definately will.. thank you.
[01:59] <zach_> Np
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> actually already did..just awaiting a reboot
[02:00] <Bearcat> thanks folks, I'll give that a shot
[02:00] <Sanne> Bearcat: wait, I'm looking for instructions for you I remember to have seen
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: what?
[02:00] <Bearcat> Sanne: thank you
[02:01] <elrodro> ok
[02:01] <elrodro> http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[02:01] <elrodro> maybe I don't have installed that plug ins
[02:01] <elrodro> how do I install them?
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: just a second
[02:01] <elrodro> thanks
[02:02] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: no one loves IRC
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> no?
[02:03] <elrodro> i was blocked due to spam problems
[02:03] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: I was being sarcastic
[02:03] <elrodro> for private messages
[02:03] <elrodro> If I change my nickname will I be able again to private
[02:03] <elrodro> message
[02:03] <elrodro> s?
[02:04] <elrodro> how do I change mi nickname?
[02:04] <Nuked> "/nick enterthenickyouwant
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: there aren't any plugins on that page.
[02:04] <elrodro> Im gonna vry
[02:04] <elrodro> now
[02:04] <elrodro> cry
[02:04] <elrodro> that says in the kaffeine web page
[02:04] <elrodro> you may need some plug ins
[02:05] <elrodro> that are in that mplayer
[02:05] <elrodro> project
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: to play dvds? yeah.. you need libdvdcss.
[02:05] <Nuked> ooooh elrodro you mean w32codecs?
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: do you have that?
[02:05] <elrodro> don't have any damn clue man
[02:05] <elrodro> I just change linux because
[02:05] <elrodro> a friend told me it was better than windows
[02:06] <Nuked> well don't despair
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> elrodro: get your friend over to help you ;)
[02:06] <elrodro> hahaha
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> !dvd
[02:06] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:06] <Sanne> Bearcat: ok, you can do it manually. I have found a page that explains some steps, but not all will be useful for you, since you don't want to upgrade over the web. shall we do this together? First, go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual
[02:06] <elrodro> he just chicken out
[02:06] <Nuked> nosrednaekim: thats not what he is looking for
[02:06] <RadiantFire> !info libxine-ffmpeg
[02:06] <Nuked> !w32codecs
[02:06] <ubotu> Package libxine-ffmpeg does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:06] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:06] <zach_> There are too many Linux evangelists who tell people why they should switch without explaining that it won't be a quick and easy transition.
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> zach_: or who aren't willing to help
[02:07] <RadiantFire> !info libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:07] <elrodro> yeah
[02:07] <elrodro> thasts for sure
[02:07] <zach_> That too
[02:07] <ubotu> libxine1-ffmpeg: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4-2ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1534 kB, installed size 3692 kB
[02:07] <RadiantFire> elrodro: try installing that package
[02:07] <RadiantFire> zach_: did your stuff work out?
[02:07] <elrodro> how do I instal il
[02:07] <elrodro> it
[02:07] <zach_> RadiantFire: Beautifully. Thanks.
[02:07] <RadiantFire> elrodro: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:07] <elrodro> Im using kubunt
[02:07] <Sanne> Bearcat: still here?
[02:08] <RadiantFire> elrodro: graphical way or terminal way, there fastest way is to simply open kmenu->system->konsole and type sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:08] <RadiantFire> elrodro: the graphical way would be to search for it using Adept Manager
[02:08] <RadiantFire> which is also in system
[02:08] <elrodro> thanks radianfire
[02:08] <elrodro> Im downloading it
[02:08] <RadiantFire> cool beans
[02:08] <elrodro> from the konsole
[02:09] <elrodro> now I will try to change my nickname due
[02:09] <elrodro> this thing say I spam
[02:09] <elrodro> how I do that again?
[02:09] <zach_> Is it just me, or are the package management programs for KDE not nearly as good as the GNOME ones?
[02:10] <elrodro> how do I change my nickname?
[02:10] <thefirstdude>  /nick newname
[02:10] <Bearcat> Sanne: i'm back
[02:10] <RadiantFire> zach_: the package management programs for gnome were started way before those for kde, its different with some other distros
[02:11] <Sanne> Bearcat: did you see my last message with the instructions page?
[02:11] <zach_> Oh i see
[02:11] <RadiantFire> zach_: for instance, I believe that the kde frontend to gentoo's emerge is vastly superior to the gnome one
[02:11] <RadiantFire> although its been a while since I've looked
[02:11] <Billiard> hey guys my pcm volume in mixer will jump down on its own once in awile
[02:12] <Bearcat> Sanne: ok. i'm there. Thanks for the help so far.
[02:12] <elrodro1> ok
[02:12] <zach_> Oh ok
[02:12] <Sanne> Bearcat: cool. Don't do anything without me :)
[02:12] <elrodro1> [19:12]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[02:12] <Bearcat> Sanne: may i scratch an itch? :P
[02:13] <elrodro1> so how  i do register?
[02:13] <elrodro1> well nevermind that
[02:13] <elrodro1> by now
[02:13] <elrodro1> radianfire
[02:13] <Sanne> Bearcat: It might be beneficial if we do this in #ubuntu-classroom, it's much quieter. What do you say?
[02:14] <zach_> Well, I'm getting off here. Peace out, everyone
[02:14] <elrodro1> radianfire: I have just downloaded it
[02:14] <Sanne> Bearcat: and yes, you may scratch ;)
[02:14] <elrodro1> now what I must do?
[02:16] <kakarotto> plz need help to install my ati 9250, for the acceleration 3d
[02:16] <kakarotto> anyone??
[02:17] <kakarotto> no one?
[02:18] <kakarotto> nobody can help me?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> kakarotto, http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[02:19] <kakarotto> yeah?
[02:19] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:19] <kakarotto> ok let see
[02:19] <BluesKaj> worked for my ati card
[02:19] <kakarotto> mmm i'm new onn this
[02:20] <kakarotto> aaaa
[02:20] <kakarotto> mmm i saw this page
[02:20] <kakarotto> but , i dont know how do it
[02:20] <elrodro1> ok friends
[02:20] <elrodro1> Im downloading
[02:20] <elrodro1> some package  i believed will wokr
[02:21] <kakarotto> in the step 6
[02:22] <kakarotto> dosn't work
[02:22] <BluesKaj> errors?
[02:22] <kakarotto> mmm
[02:23] <kakarotto> first: i use kubuntu 7.04
[02:23] <rodrigo_> hi
[02:23] <BluesKaj> remember , you have to reboot after entering the commands
[02:23] <kakarotto> i don't know if is work
[02:23] <rodrigo_> does any of you can help installing
[02:23] <rodrigo_> gimpshop?
[02:23] <kakarotto> in all of the steps?
[02:26] <BluesKaj> no kakarotto after step13
[02:26] <kakarotto> mmm
[02:27] <kakarotto> ok i'll try it
[02:27] <kakarotto> im on step 3 now
[02:28] <pagan0ne> if someone had to guess how long it would take to bzip a 600Mb directory on a 2Ghz system with a decent ammount of ram, using ARK what would a good guess be?
[02:29] <kakarotto> mmm some 13 minutes?
[02:30] <pagan0ne> kakarotto: ok so its deffinaly botched sompthing, im going on 45 mins
[02:31] <kakarotto> :O
[02:32] <pagan0ne> kakarotto: jeeze what could have went wrong, im trying to make a backup copy of the home directory, i have a copy of it, and it wont bzip or gzip!
[02:35] <dad> !restictedformats
[02:35] <dad> !restrictedformats
[02:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:40] <michelpt_> ni everybody
[02:41] <michelpt_> can someone help me, i am newbie in kubuntu. I do ping 192.168.1.1 (my router) and I have 100% packages lost , but network is working!
[02:43] <sledge> michelpt: try 192.168.2.1 :)
[02:43] <Ace2016> michelpt_: so you can access the internet and stuff?
[02:43] <DaveTheAve> I know this is off-topic but what happens if I spend more money then whats in my paypal account? Does it automaticly withdraw it from my bank account?
[02:43] <Ace2016> run ifconfig, and look at the ip address of eth0
[02:45] <michelpt_> now I am talking with you but if I do ping of my router I have 100% packages lost :)  my eth0 has static IP 192.168.1.3 and router has 192.168.1.1
[02:45] <DaveTheAve> Anyone know the answer to my question?
[02:46] <michelpt_> smth wrong :))
[02:49] <BluesKaj> DaveTheAve, ask paypal
[02:51] <michelpt__> --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---   0 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 9002ms   <--- It was 10 seconds ago :))
[03:06] <masterk> hey guys, I was asked by an employer if I knew how to image computers, I know a lot but I've never actually imaged a computer before. can you guys tell me what it is and how it is done?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> masterk: its simple.
[03:08] <BluesKaj> image the the HDD ?
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> BRB
[03:10] <ejortegau> hey guys. i guess i'm pretty screwed if i want to run opera on kubuntu amd64, right?
[03:10] <jtt> ejortegau, anybody has a right to his/her choices
[03:11] <BluesKaj> ejortegau, have you tried it ?
[03:12] <ejortegau> well, i downloaded opera for ubuntu 7.04, apt refuses to install saying it's for another platform...
[03:12] <ejortegau> though i think i found a way... let me check
[03:13] <ejortegau> ok, workarounds involve installing 32bit wrappers and s/w... i'd rather stay w/o opera
[03:14] <darkrift> damnit
[03:15] <darkrift> cant find the wallpaper i really want
[03:21] <ejortegau> any of you guys running opera?
[03:21] <ejortegau> i need you to tell me if a website looks ok or not with it
[03:21] <ejortegau> please
[03:21] <jtt> cant help you with opera
[03:22] <ejortegau> maybe i should try #opera, if that exists :D
[03:30] <Ace2016> i'm running opera
[03:31] <Bearcat> alright folks i need heeeelp
[03:31] <nosrednaekim> Bearcat: thats what we are here for
[03:31] <Bearcat> Sanne has been helping me update via cd in the classroom channe;
[03:31] <RawSewage__> whats the command to clear a playlist in Amariok
[03:31] <Bearcat> he's about to post a pastebin link 'cause i can't
[03:32] <slop> how do i format an sd card?
[03:32] <nosrednaekim> RawSewage__: command? do you mean shortcut?
[03:32] <RawSewage__> nosrednaekim, command line command
[03:32] <RawSewage__> I changed it so when I click a file, it start playing it in Amarok, rather than queuing
[03:32] <RawSewage__> but I want it to clear the playlist too
[03:33] <Bearcat> here's what i'm seeing: Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24659/
[03:34] <darkrift> Does anyone know where to get that windows bliss wallpaper where its stormy and the sun comming thru the clouds makes the windows logo on teh grass (or the penguin version of it?)
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> RawSewage__: that requires dcop
[03:34] <Ace2016> deviant art?
[03:34] <darkrift> i know it was very high rated on some sites, so maybe someone here has seen it
[03:34] <RawSewage__> nosrednaekim, oh, ok. thx
[03:35] <ejortegau> hey guys, please open this url with both konqueror and firefox and tell me if you see any difference on the browser buttons below the left navigation panel
[03:35] <ejortegau> http://142.3.164.99/
[03:38] <ejortegau> guys?
[03:38] <illriginal> Hey what's up guys, I have a problem! For some reason I get an error when I attempt to delete folders from my Recycling Bin. Can anyone help?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> loading it up,...
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: and what is the error?
[03:39] <illriginal> nosrednaekim: "/home/illri...t-winconfig" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: you delete that why you were root.. so you can't delete it now ( I thing...
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> *think
[03:40] <illriginal> These folders that I'm tryin to delete have already been installed, and were just sittin on my desktop. Now it won't let me delete them permanently.
[03:40] <illriginal> ok.. how do I go into root
[03:41] <illriginal> in order to delete them permanently.
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> yep there is a difference ejortegau
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> oh wait... no there isn't
[03:41] <illriginal> huh?
[03:42] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: so, konq shows all the buttons?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> "kdesu konqueror" and navigate to .trash
[03:42] <ejortegau> mi konq over here refuses to show the firefox xbutton :S
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> It seems to
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> lol... yeah.. I didn't se that.
[03:42] <illriginal> im on ubuntu. would I use su?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> mine shows a konqueror button
[03:42] <ejortegau> cr*p
[03:42] <ejortegau> there should be firefox, opera and konq buttons
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: ubuntu? go to the #ubuntu channel
[03:43] <illriginal> they're too busy to help.
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: but interetsingly..firefox doens't show the konqueror button lol
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: ah ok... then do "gksu nautilus"
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: I believe it!
[03:43] <Darkkish> firefox sure does crash on me alot
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> Darkkish: really? not for me...
[03:44] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: your are kidding me. here firefox shows all of them
[03:44] <ejortegau> hmmm
[03:44] <ejortegau> this is weird
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: I don't think I am..lemme try loading it again
[03:44] <Darkkish> nosrednaekim: yep, i was entering a password and bam. just dissapeared.
[03:44] <illriginal> perfect!
[03:45] <illriginal> thanks nosrednaekim
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: ah! you are correct.. I see it now... man I'm a bad tester
[03:45] <ejortegau> hahah, np, thanks anyway
[03:45] <ejortegau> konq shows the firefox button?
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> illriginal: you got rid of it?
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: no... I don't think it does... maybe i'll try again though ;)
[03:49] <ejortegau> thanks, sorry to bother
[03:50] <kane> Does anyone know how to get kaffeine to play RM files correctly? I've gotten it to play, but no sound
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: its ok... no I only see opera an konqueror
[03:52] <ejortegau> yeah, i'd commented it...
[03:52] <ejortegau> hmm
[03:52] <ejortegau> wait
[03:52] <ejortegau> could you please testa again?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: yep!
[03:53] <ejortegau> 3 buttons, right? ff, konq and opera?
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> I have dial up... it takes a while
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> sorry to say this... but two icons...
[03:55] <Darkkish> garrr
[03:55] <RawSewage> nosrednaekim, ok you were right.  the final command i s    dcop amarok playlist clearPlaylist && amarok -sp %U
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> RawSewage: ok.. cool
[03:56] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: which two?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> opera and *drumroll* konquror
[03:57] <ejortegau> hmmm... strange thing...
[03:57] <ejortegau> ok, i'll keep checking what's wrong
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: lol... try setting konqueror to act like firefox.
[03:59] <darkrift> question...
[03:59] <darkrift> ark wont open a rar file
[03:59] <darkrift> what do i need to add to it
[04:00] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: done...had to copy tha image to my webserver instead of using it from spreadfirefox... don't really know why. try it, please
[04:01] <nosrednaekim> I am...
[04:02] <ejortegau> hahahah
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> I see three buttons!
[04:02] <ejortegau> good
[04:02] <ejortegau> thanks
[04:02] <ejortegau> i think i'll try to find a safari button now
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> maybe its cause I told my browser to act like firfox?
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[04:03] <ejortegau> where did you tell it to do that?
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> settings->browser identification
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> no... it works when I use plain jane konqueror. good job.
[04:09] <klobster_> java works in konq, but in swiftfox is a nogo?
[04:11] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: that browser id thing only tells it how to announce itself, but  the engine is always khtml... it will behave as konqueror no matter what you change the user agent to
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> ejortegau: yeah I know. But sometimes that affects how sites tell your browser how to render
[04:12] <ejortegau> nosrednaekim: trust me, my site is not that smart :D
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> lol
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> nice site BTW
[04:16] <shadowhywind> does anyone know what needs to be added to the openssh config file to listen to connections using the hostname?
[04:21] <Darkkish> how do i make my tasklist be on two lines instead of one
[04:21] <Darkkish> The system tray i mean
[04:22] <redfive> ok
[04:22] <Darkkish> what?
[04:22] <redfive> how do you mount a windows share and make it map every time you reboot?
[04:22] <redfive> whats the syntax for fstab?
[04:23] <crimsun> documented in fstab(5), or `man 5 fstab`
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> redfive: under type smbfs
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> redfive: other than that its the same as for nfs iirc
[04:26] <intelikey> who can guess at what is causing this ? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37282
[04:26] <Darkkish> how to i make the system tray smaller?
[04:27] <crimsun> intelikey: do you have modutils installed?
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: corrupted drive?
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: as in very heavily corrupted
[04:28] <intelikey> crimsun don't seem to no.
[04:28] <crimsun> 2.4 requires modutils.  It can't use module-init-tools, which is 2.6-only.
[04:28] <intelikey> hitmanWilly heh   drive is flawless.
[04:28] <intelikey> crimsun and   i would need that why ?
[04:28] <intelikey>  i can modprobe any module i want
[04:28] <crimsun> intelikey: well, do you have kernel modules?
[04:29] <intelikey> yes
[04:29] <crimsun> oh, is this feisty or gutsy?
[04:29] <intelikey> no dapper.
[04:29] <crimsun> interesting.
[04:29] <crimsun> module-init-tools deprecated 2.4 support a while ago.
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: oh, stupid question, but you're not trying to mount a ext2 partition as ext3 are you?
[04:30] <intelikey> hitmanWilly  the "stupid" initrd.img may be trying to, yes.
[04:31] <intelikey> crimsun i spoke in error, sorry.   modutils is already the newest version.
[04:31] <intelikey> so yes it's installed.
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: hmmm, that's why i hate rd images
[04:31] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yes.
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: you should be able to rc-update it...iirc
[04:32] <crimsun> you could remove ksymoops, too.
[04:32] <intelikey> rc-update ?  </blinks>
[04:32] <crimsun> it's definitely not installed by default on Ubuntu
[04:32] <BluesKaj> modutils-init-tools for the latest kernel kernel
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: man it :)
[04:32] <BluesKaj> err kernel:)
[04:32] <crimsun> he means update-rc.d(8), BTW.
[04:33] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i can rm -r /etc/rc*   wont affect this system any
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: back it up and give it a shot...the kernel should have built in support for ext3
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> err, ext2 or whatever
[04:34] <intelikey> hitmanWilly the kernel does not have builtin ext anything one default ubuntu kernels.
[04:34] <intelikey> one/on/
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: how the fsck does it boot a drive then? i thought it had to be native to boot from it?
[04:35] <intelikey> but this is non-default...  so the 2.4 might have ext?fs support...
[04:35] <intelikey> hitmanWilly the initrd.img
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> there we go again...
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> anyway, you may have to wipe the img and regen one
[04:36] <darkrift> http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualdesk12winlikeqm2.jpg <---- need that wallpaper! lol
[04:37] <darkrift> be cool if someone could do that witrh the kubuntu logo
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> darkrift: then either wget it or "save image as" it and play with it via gimp :P
[04:38] <intelikey> so crimsun any chance that rebuilding the initrd will help that ?
[04:38] <darkrift> that one is small
[04:38] <darkrift> i want the orig
[04:38] <intelikey> i can't really see how it could   the root fs will still be unwritabe while it's using the rd.
[04:38] <darkrift> i had it on my other laptop, but cant find it now
[04:38] <darkrift> and other laptop is dead :(
[04:40] <c1|freaky> Tribe 1 is out ^^
[04:40] <Darkkish> how do i make my system tray 2 lines tall?
[04:41] <intelikey> right click configure
[04:41] <Darkkish> tried that
[04:41] <Darkkish> it's not a choice
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nah, no option for it there
[04:41] <Darkkish> but i swear it's usually on 2 lines.
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: maybe a panel setting somewhere
[04:42] <Darkkish> hitmanWilly: is your's on two lines?
[04:43] <darkrift> mine is
[04:43] <darkrift> by default
[04:43] <Darkkish> darkrift by default is the size set to "normal" or "large"?
[04:43] <ejortegau> large will do it
[04:44] <Darkkish> but i don't want it set to large :-/
[04:45] <intelikey> shachaf
[04:46] <shachaf> intelikey: I tested your memory usage script, it seems to work.
[04:46] <shachaf> intelikey: (Sorry for the late response.)
[04:46] <shachaf> intelikey: But it seems easier just to run "htop".
[04:47] <intelikey> yeah htop is easier to type than mem
[04:47] <Darkkish> man i feel like playing with photoshop :-/
[04:48] <shachaf> intelikey: About as easy.
[04:48] <shachaf> intelikey: It also gives more information. :-)
[04:48] <intelikey> exactly.
[04:48] <shachaf> intelikey: So why did you write your script?
[04:48] <intelikey> and if all you want to see is the ram usage you don't want to see "more information"
[04:49] <shachaf> intelikey: Hmm.
[04:49] <shachaf> intelikey: But htop gives you a nice visual indicator.
[04:49] <intelikey> anyone can   cat /proc/meminfo
[04:49] <shachaf> intelikey: And also shows swap (I know that doesn't apply to you).
[04:49] <intelikey> anyone can   cat /proc/meminfo
[04:51] <intelikey> shachaf ok.  i'll confess and not hide it from you.  i didn't have a reason.  it was totally on a "whim" that i wrote it.    now you've found me out....
[04:52] <intelikey> :)
[04:52] <shachaf> intelikey: I do that too sometimes. :-)
[04:52] <shachaf> intelikey: I was just curious.
[04:55] <intelikey> well now in a little more somber and honest moment, so many people in here have said things like   "why is linux using all my memory"   i kinda wanted to be able to say "run this and tell me how much ram it's actually using.    but i know that that is a futile cause anyway,  but it's kinda the motivation behind writing it.
[04:56] <intelikey>  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37283  <<< what we were discussing, in case anyone was curious.
[04:58] <intelikey> i've rebuilt the initrd with MODULES=dep and hoping that it drops ext3, and that maybe it won't try to log oops's before it is mounted rw ...
[05:03] <intelikey> nope.   changed the errors around a bit but didn't help really.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37284
[05:06] <logan> Can you reroute the line-in / mic-in to be additional audio channels like in windows?
[05:08] <intelikey> i did gain 3m of ram by rebuilding the initrd.img     that's a good thing.
[05:09] <intelikey> logan probably can.  i wouldn't know how to.
[05:13] <Ashex> bah, this is retarded
[05:13] <Ashex> how can the volume already contain errors if I just created it?
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: hmmm, normally iwould say recompile with built-in drivers, but ubuntu makes that more af a pita than it already is...
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: and then just wipe the rd img altogether...
[05:15] <arun> how do i install the quicktime plugin for firefox?
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> arun: mplayer should handle quicktime
[05:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly normally i would agree.  i deleted all my kernel source in one of those moments of frustration....   dailup doesn't like grabbing kernel tarballs....
[05:18] <intelikey> in this particular i think "ignoring the errors" is the best course.
[05:18] <intelikey> back in a few.
[05:21] <Ashex> hmm, looks like i figured out why it throws an error
[05:21] <Ashex> Hard drive is about to fail
[05:21] <Darkkish> D:
[05:21] <Ashex> Eh, no worries
[05:22] <Ashex> I just partitioned to hold my disk images
[05:22] <Ashex> so, I don't have much on it and I should hopefully be able to move it to another drive
[05:23] <Ashex> If I'm lucky it's under warranty ;)
[05:24] <Darkkish> jgrrr
[05:24] <Darkkish> firefox isn't giving me input
[05:25] <Darkkish> nothing i type shows up[
[05:26] <Darkkish> (i could restart, but i don't really want to..)
[05:27] <Darkkish> guess i have to
[05:27] <Dekkard> is kooldock buggy, or is it me?
[05:27] <intelikey> are you buggy ?
[05:27] <Dekkard> sometimes
[05:27] <intelikey> :)
[05:29] <intelikey> what's a good timming app ?
[05:30] <intelikey> maybe i'll just script something.   to see how many seconds a month i have a web browser open.
[05:32] <Dekkard> something to do with touch?
[05:34] <intelikey> probably not in this case.   probably something to do with date +"%s"
[05:37] <jarn> Eh.
[05:38] <jarn> Apparently I somehow saved a file in DOS format (whatever that means); is there anyway to get it back?
[05:38] <klobster> should I uninstall the java 5 and jre2 v1.4 now that I have java 6?
[05:39] <intelikey> jarn        tr -d '\r'
[05:39] <jarn> intelikey: I ended up just copying the text out and creating a new file. Not elegant, but it worked. Thanks, though. :)
[05:41] <intelikey> jarn np.  there is even an app made for that.   dos2unix unix2dos
[05:41] <intelikey> but tr works
[05:41] <jarn> intelikey: Thanks. :)
[05:47] <Darkkish> er
[05:47] <Darkkish> how do i re-add the system tray to the kpanel menu?
[05:48] <Jucato> Darkkish: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray
[05:48] <Darkkish> Jucato: it's not in the list o__o
[05:49] <Darkkish> oh wait nvm
[05:49] <Darkkish> it magically re appeared
[05:49] <Darkkish> everything in my system tray is gone though
[05:50] <Darkkish> urgh
[05:50] <Darkkish> time to restartx
[05:50] <Jucato> er?
[05:50] <Jucato> (he could have just restarted kicker...)
[05:53] <Sloik> Yo
[05:54] <Jucato> Darkkish: next time, you can just restart kicker (the panel) with this command: dcop kicker kicker restart
[06:00] <Darkkish> i managed to crash x somehow or something
[06:05] <Darkkish> it went into the whatcha call it
[06:05] <Darkkish> and i tried to do startx
[06:05] <Darkkish> and it said it was already running, but i couldn't figure out how to get back to it
[06:06] <shinobi> ctrl-alt-F7
[06:07] <shinobi> suddenly occured to me to switch to a 64bit version at last. What are the principle 32bit apps that I will loose (unless i have chroot)
[06:07] <shinobi> any wisdom from the oracle?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> theres flash issues i belive. and some emulators
[06:08] <Dr_willis> not sure if java is still problematic or not
[06:09] <gajolo> how do you connect to another irc channel? Is that the right word for it?
[06:10] <shinobi> gajolo in konversation file>join channel>#kde (or whatever)
[06:10] <crimsun> "join"
[06:10] <shinobi> so no flash no skype, possibly no java?
[06:11] <shinobi> sounds like chroot is still a must huh
[06:12] <gajolo> ty, but I think what I meant was how o you join another server?
[06:13] <shinobi> gajolo file>quick connect... enter details
[06:24] <Sloik> So... anyone have anything interesting to say?
[06:24] <Darkkish> k so
[06:24] <Darkkish> i set beryl to run in xgl
[06:24] <Darkkish> idk why
[06:24] <Darkkish> just to see what would happen
[06:25] <Darkkish> and now i can't set it back to auto (it freezes up when i start it)
[06:27] <Hobbsee> Darkkish: try #ubuntu-effects
[06:31] <antiroach> is there an easy way to upgrade dapper to fiesty fawn? i tried replacing the sources file and doing a apt-get upgrade but that didnt seem to work right
[06:33] <Hobbsee> !upgrade
[06:33] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:33] <Hobbsee> antiroach: you need to dist-upgrade to edgy, then to feisty
[06:33] <antiroach> ah
[06:35] <klobster> is there a prog similar to kate that is more lightweight? (handles multiple files, code freindly)
[06:37] <Hobbsee> klobster: kwrite?
[06:37] <antiroach> Hobbsee is there an easy way to upgrade from dapper to edgy then? that url doesnt give any 'easy' way.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> antiroach: you need to run a dist-upgrade for that, ie changing your sources list to edgy first
[06:39] <Aresilek> what's the command to start vnc?
[06:39] <Hobbsee> antiroach: the dist-upgrader for kubuntu was only written for edgy--> feisty
[06:39] <antiroach> Hobbsee ahh
[06:40] <antiroach> ok i see. im changing all dapper references to edgy
[06:40] <Hobbsee> yep
[06:41] <klobster> kwrite wont support multiple files in one window
[06:41] <antiroach> hm when i do that and do a apt-get upgrade it lists a LOT of files that are going to be kept back. is that ok ?
[06:42] <Sloik> Anyone have any success installing the FGLRX drivers?
[06:42] <Hobbsee> antiroach: so you need to use a dist-upgrade, not just an upgrade
[06:42] <antiroach> Hobbsee hmm ok
[06:42] <antiroach> that worked better
[06:43] <antiroach> 1097 upgraded, 172 newly installed, 64 to remove and 40 not upgraded.
[06:43] <antiroach> Need to get 958MB/959MB of archives.
[06:43] <antiroach> this is going to be fun. thanks Hobbsee
[06:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:47] <dewey> hmmm anyone testing 7.10 yet?
[06:47] <michael_> are there any programs that letme give voice commands
[06:47] <michael_> like if i say "start konsole" it starts konsole
[06:47] <michael_> or something like that
[06:48] <michael_> whats the command to restart xorg?
[06:48] <michael_> ! xorg
[06:48] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:48] <michael_> neverminnd :)
[06:48] <michael_> if i restart xorg will my open konsole restart?
[06:49] <michael_> its downloading something
[06:49] <hangthedj> michael_: control+alt+backspace restarts xorg
[06:50] <michael_> yeh but will it restart my konsole window?
[06:50] <antiroach> yes
[06:50] <michael_> damn it
[06:50] <antiroach> why do you want to restart xorg
[06:50] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Does anyone use Qemu here?
[06:50] <michael_> becuase its using 700mb ram
[06:50] <michael_> lol
[06:50] <dewey> hmmm got kde 3.5.7 installed on 7.04 :)
[06:51] <michael_> and its goin real slow
[06:51] <antiroach> oh hah
[06:51] <antiroach> if youre dling using wget you can use -c to resume the download later
[06:51] <michael_> nah its grabbing svn
[06:51] <antiroach> oh ok. that shouldnt take long
[06:51] <michael_> yeh
[06:53] <antiroach> Hobbsee will i have to reboot after upgrading to edgy in order to upgrade to fiesty  ?
[06:58] <michael_> ! xvoice
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xvoice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <michael_> ! cvoicecontrol
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cvoicecontrol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:59] <michael_> ! kvoicecontrol
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvoicecontrol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <antiroach> hey Hobbsee are you still around?
[07:21] <pc21> /connect us.undernet.net
[07:25] <flowingfire> Hi!  I'm trying to follow a set of instructions for Ubuntu, but I'm not sure how to implement them in Kubuntu.  It says "Go to System->Preferences->Sessions and click the Startup Programs tab."  Then it instructs me to add a complex command line... How do I do this in Kubuntu?
[07:26] <flowingfire> hmm.... maybe i'll check the ubuntu room
[07:26] <Jucato> !autostart | flowingfire
[07:26] <ubotu> flowingfire: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[07:27] <flowingfire> jucato: How do you add a specific command line?
[07:27] <Jucato> flowingfire: in ~/.kde/Autostart/, right-click -> Create New -> Link to Application. fill up the fields with the command you want
[07:28] <flowingfire> Ok thx. :)  Kewl.
[07:32] <dogatemycomputer> i'm configuring my machine to use wake-on-lan.  wake-on-lan will not work unless the machine hibernates.  If it goes into standby then it never comes back and if I turn it off then wol-on-lan stops working.
[07:33] <dogatemycomputer> Q1: Is there a workaround for this available?  I've already enabled WOL in the BIOS (obv otherwise it wouldn't work with hibernation) and I already configured WOL via ethertool.  Am I missing a change that would allow me to shutdown the machine rather than hibernate it?
[07:33] <StErGi0s> hello how can i disable the effects when minimising a window?
[07:34] <dogatemycomputer> Q2: Are there any pitfalls with hibernation that I should be aware of?  (ie: are there any reported problems such as corrupting disks or screwing up some programs that I should be aware of?  I know if it were that problematic then they would disable the feature completely but I figured I would ask)..
[07:34] <dogatemycomputer> Thanks for anyone who may be willing to respond.
[07:34] <jwallingford> ok for a while i was trying to get thunderbird v2.0 to install and could never do it. I gave up and now want to install the thunderbird v1.5 that comes in adept. I can install and uninstall it just fine but when i go to run the program it just loads and loads and loads and then the bouncing icon of it loading dissapears and nothing else happens... anybody know what I could have messed up? or maybe how to fix this?
[07:37] <chipbuddy> so i'm using gthumb to find duplicate pictures, but do i really have to do all these clicks to get rid of all the duplicates? is there a faster way to trash all these duplicates?
[07:41] <hangthedj> jwallingford: run the command in konsole and see what the output is.
[07:42] <jwallingford> I get this: /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: not found
[07:47] <sivaji> my system cant detect floopy , what is the reason for that
[07:47] <sivaji> but same driver can detect the same floopy in windows
[07:47] <crimsun> is floppy.ko loaded?
[07:48] <sivaji> crimsun i dont know what is that
[07:48] <crimsun> it's the "Linux driver".  lsmod|grep ^floppy
[07:49] <sivaji> crimsun it cant detect dvd also
[07:49] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ lsmod|grep ^floppy
[07:49] <sivaji> floppy                 62148  0
[07:50] <sivaji> crimsun what does it means
[07:50] <crimsun> it means it's loaded.  Now does `dmesg|grep fd0` reveal anything?
[07:51] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ dmesg|grep fd0
[07:51] <sivaji> [17179569.184000]  mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000)
[07:51] <sivaji> [17179592.220000]  Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
[07:52] <crimsun> ok good.  And now is /dev/fd0 mounted?
[07:54] <sivaji> crimsun ya it works now am i suppose to mount manually every time
[07:54] <sivaji> crimsun
[07:54] <crimsun> no idea if it's supposed to be automounted by whatever policy Kubuntu uses.
[07:55] <sivaji> crimsun same way my system cant detect dvd it means i am suppose to mount that correct
[07:57] <nessia> hello...i am nessia
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> hello...i am not nessia :)
[07:57] <nessia> whats new admiral
[07:58] <nessia> i am new to ubuntu chat
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> nessia: not too much, trying to help support users.
[07:59] <nessia> i cannot get java to work on ubuntu 6
[08:01] <nessia> grrrrr
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !java
[08:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> jave you tried those links?
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> nessia: ^^ do those work?
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> work/help
[08:01] <sivaji> hendaus : hi
[08:01] <nessia> i am on ubuntu 6.06
[08:01] <sivaji> nessia www.java.com
[08:03] <nessia> why do computer heads have insomnia????? ;(
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> nessia: depends on the time zone, plus we aren't all at our computer...
[08:04] <nessia> my interest is sentient computers
[08:05] <yknott> nessia: the lights
[08:06] <nessia> lights?
[08:06] <yknott> sure
[08:07] <nessia> what about the lights.....what context
[08:07] <yknott> following the cues by the sun or
[08:07] <sivaji>  how to enable automount for floppy drive
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> sivaji: you have to add it in your fstab file
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab
[08:08] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:08] <nessia> well,,,,,,maybe i will try to get some zzzzzzz's
[08:10] <yknott> nessia: turn off the lights ;)
[08:16] <crimsun> interesting, another NC user.
[08:33] <sivaji> ]  -ChanServ- [#ubuntu]  Welcome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel topic and consider spending some time on the FAQ mentioned there
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[08:33] <sivaji> [11:33]  <nessia> why do computer heads have insomnia????? ;(
[08:33] <sivaji> [11:34]  <Admiral_Chicago> nessia: depends on the time zone, plus we aren't all at our computer...
[08:33] <sivaji> [11:34]  <nessia> my interest is sentient computers
[08:33] <Hobbsee> sivaji: why the past?
[08:33] <Hobbsee> er, paste
[08:33] <fdoving> hi hobbsee :)
[08:33] <Hobbsee> hiya :)
[08:33] <nixternal_> oi
[08:33] <fdoving> yo nix.
[08:34] <jussi01> morning peoples
[08:36] <Admiral_Chicago> More importantly, my highlight script didn't work...
[08:42] <kellydor> wow...hey all
[08:43] <kellydor> someone just type a bunch of periods to let me know that i'm really connected? :P
[08:44] <kellydor> that'll work too. thank you
[08:45] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ cp d bootfile
[08:45] <sivaji> cp: omitting directory `d'
[08:46] <sivaji> y i cant copy files of one dir to other dir
[08:47] <fdoving> sivaji: use cp -r to copy recursively
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:49] <sivaji> still i cant copy one file
[08:49] <sivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ cp -r d bootfile
[08:49] <sivaji> cp: reading `d/vmlinuz': Input/output error
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> sivaji: d is a directory?
[08:51] <sivaji> ya d is dir where i have floppy mounted i want to have backup of that i contain boot files
[08:53] <AstroGirl> I'm using hpodder to download podcasts - I tried to set it up as a cron-job to run at night (when download limit is good), but it doesn't appear to work at all. Hpodder works when ran in a terminal manually though.
[08:53] <sivaji> Admiral_Chicago :
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> sivaji: d/
[08:59] <jwallingford_> i am copying files from a samba share to my desktop and it keeps asking me for my password over and over again... is there a way to stop this?
[09:06] <Admiral_Chicago> sivaji: did it work?
[09:10] <sivaji> Admiral_Chicago no something wrong with that file so i didnt try any more
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> sivaji: you need a / at the end of a folder. tab will complete the name (with some limitations)
[09:14] <ubuntu__> slt
[09:14] <ubuntu__> sa va
[09:14] <ubuntu__> ya qq
[09:14] <ubuntu__> de rancais
[09:15] <ubuntu__> ouou
[09:15] <maxsandy57> ouou
[09:15] <maxsandy57> hello
[09:15] <maxsandy57> salu lucas
[09:16] <maxsandy57> hello luckylucas
[09:16] <maxsandy57> ello
[09:23] <AstroGirl> Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this crontab line? It doesn't appear to work correctly at all:  45 23 * * 1,2,3,4,5	/usr/bin/hpodder
[09:43] <sercik> a space between 5 and / ??
[09:45] <no0b> Can someone please help me connect my laptop too my home network?
[09:46] <no0b> Please? I've been trying for days
[09:46] <MidMark> !ask
[09:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <no0b> I asked it
[09:47] <StErGi0s> no0b: ubotu is a bot
[09:47] <no0b> oh ok :rofl:
[09:47] <no0b> ANychance you can help me connect my laptop (with 7.04) too my home network?
[09:48] <no0b> My laptop has wifi
[09:48] <no0b> and moderm has wifi
[09:48] <pCarsten> I'm having trouble with https and IMAPS. Anyone who can give me a hint where to look?
[09:49] <no0b> there's nobody here pCarsten
[09:49] <pCarsten> patience...
[09:49] <no0b> oh ok friend
[09:53] <no0b> your patience" got you no where
[10:28] <Evil_Monkey> I'm trying to remember the name of the program that you type a key and it gives you the "code" of the key
[10:28] <llutz> xev
[10:28] <Evil_Monkey> thanks
[10:29] <Evil_Monkey> hmmm, confirms that my computer isn't see my windows key
[10:29] <Evil_Monkey> okay actually it is
[10:29] <Evil_Monkey> weird
[10:30] <Evil_Monkey> because when I try to set up global shortcuts, it doesn't seem to see the windows key
[10:30] <llutz> Evil_Monkey: assign a symbol to the keycode
[10:30] <llutz> Evil_Monkey:with xmodmap
[10:33] <Evil_Monkey> thanks
[10:34] <Evil_Monkey> just seemed really weird since Kubuntu did so many things nicely out of the box like the multimedia keys in Amarok
[10:34] <Evil_Monkey> but the Windows key.....
[10:34] <llutz> Evil_Monkey: they should have been recognized too... try to fix it, good luck
[10:34] <jack-> its intentional
[10:35] <jack-> installing linux included a hidden "NEVER PRESS THIS KEY AGAIN" note
[10:35] <Evil_Monkey> I was actually pleasantly surprised
[10:35] <llutz> lol
[10:35] <jack-> ;p
[10:35] <Evil_Monkey> it was a new Dell laptop (not preinstalled with Ubuntu
[10:36] <jack-> preinstalled is for weenies
[10:36] <blackflag> !syslog
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <Evil_Monkey> I've been runnning Kubuntu on my desktop but it was still a nice present when so many things worked out of the box after installing
[10:36] <jack-> man, i got like 10 keys on this panasonic laptop that are 100% useless with kubuntu
[10:36] <blackflag> !syslog-ng
[10:36] <jack-> so what :)
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about syslog-ng - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <Evil_Monkey> jack-: I couldn't get preinstalled Dell if I wanted, living in New Zealand :-)
[10:36] <jack-> you dont want a preinstalled one, anyway
[10:37] <jack-> ubuntu with all the extra repos supports like everything that can emit a .wav fart
[10:37] <llutz> "preinstalled ubuntu" means no forced win, thats ok.
[10:38] <dreik> does anybody know how make Fn key working on compaq n620?
[10:41] <dreik> or maybe just change brightness of display while i work from battery..sometimes it's rather usefull
[10:46] <eagles0513875> is there a zip pkg that uzipz rar files
[10:55] <SilentDis> hello
[10:55] <Jucato> !info unrar | eagles0513875
[10:55] <SilentDis> how do I get the UUID of a disk?
[10:55] <ubotu> eagles0513875: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[10:56] <SilentDis> !uuid
[10:56] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:03] <SilentDis> bit of an odd one here.  I have a Ximeta netdisk.  I have it's driver properly setup, and a proper entry in /etc/fstab.  I can mount/umount it from a prompt, as a user, without trouble.  I'd like to 'hook' it into the control stuff for KDE, so i can access it via media:/ in konqueror and the like.  any ideas?
[11:08] <red> it's cool, just found the answer, need to install postgres-dev
[11:30] <juan278> is there any support for segfs in fiesty, or do i need to compile
[11:30] <rothchild> hi all, can anyone offer me any tips on if and how I can set up my laptop as a 'LAMP' sandbox to try out some .php based software I want to play with (i.e this : http://xrms.sourceforge.net/pagebuilder.php?s1=18 )
[11:42] <ardchoille> !lamp | rothchild Have a look at this:
[11:42] <ubotu> rothchild Have a look at this:: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:43] <rothchild> thanks ardchoille
[11:44] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[11:44] <rothchild> has anyone used www.zendurl.com I've been trying to use it for this xrms experiement but I can't seem to rename the mysql database so xrms won't run
[11:50] <scorp123> Hi all ...
[11:50] <scorp123> Question: When I install 1 system ... how can I carry over the list of packages I installed there to a second system (so it installs the same packages as on the 1st system) ??
[11:52] <ardchoille> scorp123: I believe it's: "dpkg --get-selections > file.txt" to get a list of installed packages and "dpkg --set-selections < file.txt" to install the packages in that list.
[11:52] <Jucato> hm..... :/
[11:53] <ardchoille> Jucato: Is that no correct?
[11:53] <scorp123> ardchoille: in the "man" page it says that this will only mark the packages as "selected" but not really download them ...
[11:53] <Jucato> no I was wondering about something else...
[11:53] <scorp123> ardchoille: Is there a way to feed this list to an automatic executed "apt-get install" somehow?
[11:54] <ardchoille> Jucato: Can you comment on my above advice to scorp123 when you have a chance?
[11:55] <Jucato> ardchoille: looks ok to me. I'm not really familiar with it.
[11:55] <ardchoille> Ok
[11:55] <ardchoille> scorp123: Well, it worked for me and I learned it from some other folks in this channel.
[11:56] <scorp123> ardchoille: and this part "dpkg --set-selections < file.txt" will trigger the downloads?
[11:56] <scorp123> ardchoille: or would I need to execute something more?
[11:57] <ardchoille> scorp123: Not sure how to do it with apt-get
[11:58] <scorp123> ardchoille: how did you do it? via "dselect" ?
[11:58] <ardchoille> scorp123: What I do to clone a system is use partimage to make an archive of the current partition, then use partimage on the new system to install that image on the new hard drive. That way I have an exact clone.
[11:59] <scorp123> ardchoille: yes, we thought of that but that's overkill here ...
[11:59] <ardchoille> No need to download anything and it takes about 10 minutes on a 4Gb drive
[11:59] <ardchoille> < scorp123> Question: When I install 1 system ... how can I carry over the list of packages I installed there to a second system (so it installs the same packages as on the 1st system) ??
[11:59] <ardchoille> !clone
[11:59] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[12:00] <ardchoille> scorp123: There's some info for ya ^^
[12:00] <ardchoille> !automate
[12:00] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[12:00] <Help_adept> hi all
[12:01] <scorp123> ubotu: aaaaah :-)
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aaaaah :-) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <ardchoille> !bot
[12:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:01] <scorp123> oh ... talking to a bot :-) LOL
[12:01] <ardchoille> hehe
[12:02] <Jucato> can anyone think of an instance where internet would be working on the command line (HTTP, Apt, chat) but not in KDE?
[12:02] <Help_adept> does anyone know how to run adept manager in root/sudo mode?
[12:02] <Jucato> Help_adept: kdesu adept_manager
[12:03] <Help_adept> from terminal?
[12:03] <ardchoille> yes
[12:03] <Jucato> or from Alt+F2
[12:03] <Help_adept> cool shot
[12:03] <Jucato> Help_adept: actually that's the default action if you launch it from K Menu -> System -> Adept Manager
[12:04] <Help_adept> yeah i luanched it through that but i didnt have admin rights
[12:04] <ardchoille> Help_adept: Well, if you don't have admin rights, then kdesu isn't going to be much help.
[12:06] <scorp123> !cloning
[12:06] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[12:06] <scorp123> ... ah, OK ... same thing ... :)
[12:06] <scorp123> Thanks for your help folks :-)
[12:07] <ardchoille> scorp123: You might have a look at this if you haven't already: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[12:09] <ardchoille> Jucato: Hmm.. never seen that.. weird. But, I can tell you that many folks have found the internet laggy lately, since the AT&T problem.
[12:09] <Jucato> oh....
[12:10] <Jucato> well anyway... at least I can still go online in CLI... just sucks that irssi isn't installed by default...
[12:10] <ardchoille> I totally agree
[12:10] <Jucato> oh btw... I'm not affected by any AT&T problem...
[12:10] <ardchoille> irssi is one of the first things I install on any new system.
[12:10] <Jucato> and I'd be damned surprised if I were :)
[12:10] <ardchoille> Jucato: You're not? You're quite lucky, then
[12:11] <Jucato> well, considering that I'm halfway around the globe? :D
[12:11] <ardchoille> Ah, yeah
[12:12] <ardchoille> o.O
[12:12] <ardchoille> Nice
[12:12] <Jucato> yeah. I can't believe it actually worked! lol :)
[12:12] <scorp123> Jucato: are you running "nscd" (Name Server Cache Daemon) ?
[12:12] <KChucky> Hello
[12:12] <KChucky> I was here yesterdayy
[12:12] <Jucato> scorp123: hm... not sure.. gonna check
[12:12] <scorp123> Jucato: can you do a "ps -efH" and check if you see "nscd" somewhere?
[12:12] <scorp123> Jucato: I had a case where "nscd" was hanging.
[12:12] <Jucato> nope
[12:13] <KChucky> I was the one having EDAC (ECC) error on linux
[12:13] <Jucato> well... I'll just hope and pray :)
[12:13] <KChucky> Is there still no BUGFIX for LINUX??
[12:14] <KChucky> I have KUBUNTU 7,10 and the EDAC problem is NOT fixed
[12:14] <scorp123> KChucky: no idea what you are talking about.
[12:14] <KChucky> ECC you know  that?
[12:14] <Jucato> hahah 12 minutes to install irssi :)
[12:14] <scorp123> KChucky: and besides (K)Ubuntu 7.10 is regarded as being *ALPHA* software, so errors are bound to happen :-)
[12:15] <KChucky> Yes I know! I tried it with Kubuntuu 7.04 but it had issues with ECC enabled RAM
[12:15] <KChucky> so I tried 7.10 but it has also issues
[12:16] <KChucky> LINUX CAN'T  HANDLE ECC???
[12:16] <ardchoille> KChucky: 7.10 is bound to have issues, it's quite alpha
[12:16] <KChucky> I'm  talking about 7.04
[12:17] <KChucky> 7.10 had just the same issues
[12:17] <Help_adept> ardchoille i am using kubuntu on my laptop, i installed it... why would i not have admin rights?
[12:17] <ardchoille> Help_adept: Can you use sudo/kdesu successfully?
[12:17] <Help_adept> yes
[12:17] <cody> does 7.10 come out with KDE 4.0 ?
[12:17] <ardchoille> Then you have admin rights
[12:17] <Help_adept> i type sudo ............
[12:17] <Jucato> cody: no
[12:18] <Help_adept> then it asks me for password which i enter
[12:18] <ardchoille> Help_adept: That's correct
[12:18] <KChucky> I don't know,   it is just installing
[12:18] <Jucato> Help_adept: you do have admin rights. when you run Adept Manager from the menu, a box will popup asking for your password
[12:18] <KChucky> I'm currently installing kubuntu 7.10
[12:18] <ardchoille> Help_adept: We work as "normal user", never as root. Then, when we need to perform admin tasks, we use sudo.. which asks for our password.
[12:19] <cody> i had the same problem, that happens when you leave the CD in your device after installing the system ...
[12:19] <Help_adept> ok but if i access adept manager from the aplications menu it says i dont have rights...
[12:19] <KChucky> CAN SOMEBODY tell me howto rmmod the edac "feature" of linux which makes my comp beepp every second
[12:19] <ardchoille> cody: When you reboot, it will ask you to remove the cd before rebooting
[12:19] <Help_adept> so does that mean the only way i can use it is if i access via alt+f2?
[12:20] <ardchoille> Help_adept: Do this: ALT+F2  type in kmenuedit  and then see if the command entry for that menu item has "kdesu" in front of it. If it doesn't, add it.
[12:20] <Jucato> Help_adept: hm... that's strange. that is definitely not normal
[12:20] <Jucato> (ardchoille: he could also right-click on the menu entry or on the K menu icon :) )
[12:21] <KChucky> Hey please  help install is about 94% now...
[12:21] <ardchoille> Jucato: Ah, yes, forgot about that.
[12:21] <KChucky> need to  remove edac because it is useless on linux only it is too buggy
[12:22] <ardchoille> !edac
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <ardchoille> What is edac?
[12:22] <KChucky> same ass ECC
[12:22] <KChucky> same as
[12:22] <KChucky> ^
[12:23] <KChucky> Error Correction Code
[12:23] <KChucky> feature of good motherboards
[12:23] <ardchoille> Ah
[12:23] <KChucky> but it makes a hell lotta beeps if I run linux
[12:23] <KChucky> It tell me the ram is bad
[12:23] <KChucky> But I know it is NOOT
[12:24] <KChucky> made memtest,  ram is ok
[12:24] <KChucky> the cd is also ok and the temp of my comp is ok also
[12:25] <KChucky> no idea?
[12:28] <KChucky> :(
[12:41] <nahemoth> how can I install vmware on kubuntu?
[12:44] <HymnToLife> !vmware | nahemoth
[12:44] <ubotu> nahemoth: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:48] <nahemoth> when I try to install vmware package I get the warning "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[12:48] <nahemoth> why? what should I do?
[12:56] <_4strO> yop yop
[01:04] <drkns> hello
[01:04] <drkns> i am trying to install this kde theme manager package
[01:05] <nahemoth> drkns then
[01:05] <drkns> but when i go to system settings , apperance, kde theme manager it says this will require root access and i should click on administrator button
[01:05] <drkns> but there is no admin button
[01:07] <drkns> k i will try several times
[01:09] <drkns> one more problem is that i am trying to use this printer connected to a windows machine and it is being shared but when i try to search it it wont come up and says access denied
[01:11] <drkns> it has been 7 times since i tried but still no administrator button
[01:17] <drkns> nahe alt f2 worked thx
[01:19] <drkns> ok here is another challenege
[01:19] <drkns> i am trying to install kubuntu on my home pc
[01:19] <drkns> i have 4 drives
[01:19] <drkns> one 60gb ata133 drive
[01:20] <drkns> one 500gb partitioned to 150, 150, 100, 100 gb pieces
[01:20] <drkns> i am installing on to 100 gb partition but everytime it finishes installation
[01:21] <drkns> it says 500 gb drive is not the proper boot device
[01:21] <drkns> i set the 500gb drive as my first drive on bios
[01:22] <drkns> is it not possible to install kubuntu on partitioned drive ???
[01:23] <drkns> is it possible that hd(0) is not the right boot drive for me?
[01:25] <_StefanS_> drkns: it is possible, how many drives do you have?
[01:28] <drkns> i have 4 drives
[01:28] <drkns> one 80 gb ata 133
[01:28] <drkns> one 500gb sata II
[01:28] <drkns> and two 80 gb sata drives on raid 0
[01:30] <drkns> 500gb drive is seperated in to 4 partitions of 150, 150, 100 and 100 gb
[01:30] <ardchoille> drkns: Which drive id you install the bootloader on? That drive has to be to drive set to boot in bios.
[01:30] <drkns> i set 500gb drive as boot
[01:30] <ardchoille> Which drive/patition is the bootloader on?
[01:31] <drkns> when i select advanced while instal it says boot loader will be put on hd(0) but i do not know which drive is that
[01:31] <ardchoille> If you try booting from drive A but the booloader is on drive B, drive A won't boot.
[01:31] <drkns> i know
[01:32] <ardchoille> hd(0) is the master drive
[01:33] <athlon64_> i set up my 7.1 speakers and the now the woofer is pumpin full volume!
[01:33] <drkns> i think the master drive is 80 gb ata 133 not the 500gb sata II
[01:33] <drkns> himm
[01:33] <drkns> now how am i going to know that 500 gb is hd(?) what
[01:34] <drkns> trial and error i guess
[01:35] <drkns> this 4 partition on 500gb drive
[01:36] <drkns> are they going to be seen as seperate drives?
[01:36] <drkns> lets say hd(2) hd(3) etc
[01:36] <drkns> ?
[01:36] <drkns> or 500 gb drive will be seen as hd(2) all together as one drive?
[01:37] <_4strO> drkns: in a console type : sudo fdisk -l
[01:41] <drkns> thx
[01:44] <dfeser> hi!
[01:44] <dfeser> some kernel-guys here?
[01:46] <drkns> ok now what is theme manager for kubuntu?
[01:46] <drkns> where is it?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> drkns: start "kcontrol"
[01:50] <athlon64_> i set up my 7.1 speakers and the now the woofer is pumpin full volume! Can anyone help?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> athlon64_: mess around with the kcontrol settings
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> sorry... *kmix
[01:51] <drkns> nosred thx
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> drkns: no problem
[01:53] <_StefanS_> dfeser: you should probably try ubuntu-devel, and ben collins (bcollins I think)
[02:08] <mohan> hi. can anyone tell me how to install packages in kubuntu fiesty
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> yeah, use adept.
[02:09] <Jucato> mohan: start up Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager.
[02:09] <Jucato> look for the package you want, and mark it for installation
[02:09] <mohan> thanks.
[02:10] <mohan> but i want to install software not listed in those
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: heh... I probabaly wasn't specific enough..
[02:10] <Jucato> mohan: that depends on where/how you get that software and in what format. but are you sure it's not in our repositories?
[02:10] <Jucato> (which holds about 20,000 packages)
[02:12] <mohan> i checked the adept installer. but its not showing a list of packages for edutainment and games
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> mohan: use adept-manager
[02:14] <mohan> is there a way to add new repos to  adept installer
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> mohan: yes, there is.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> I believe its in settings-> repositories
[02:16] <Jucato> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[02:16] <Jucato> mohan: what particular app are you looking for? there are tons of edutainment apps and games in the repositories
[02:17] <mohan> some gnome apps: gedit,
[02:17] <Jucato> O.o
[02:18] <Jucato> well gedit is definitely in the repositories. but I wouldn't call it an edutainment app or a game... (and Kate kicks it's @$$ anyway :P)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> yeah... kate is far better
[02:18] <mohan> i don't see "Adept menu -> Manage Repositories" but only "Adept menu -> Quit"
 mohan: use adept-manager <----
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> mohan: what version do you have?
[02:19] <mohan> kubuntu 7.04
[02:20] <Jucato> nosrednaekim, mohan: there's no Manage Repositories in Adept Installer (Add/Remove Programs)
[02:20] <Jucato> only on Adept Manager
[02:21] <mohan> where is that placed in kmenu?
[02:21] <Jucato> K Menu -> Stystem ->
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> System
[02:22] <Jucato> heh
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[02:22] <mohan> oh. thank u. jucato. i found that.
[02:22] <Jucato> why would you want to install gedit anyway? :D
[02:22] <mohan> thanks nos.
[02:23] <mohan> i used to write programs with gedit previously
[02:23] <Jucato> have you tried kate?
[02:23] <ActionParsnip> hi all, I've been messing with my colours and got myself in a bit of a state
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> all my dialogue boxes, in the main bit of the window is black
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> as is the text
[02:24] <ActionParsnip> can anyone advise how i can change this cos i cant find the bit to change it
[02:25] <mohan> kate also looks good for my programs, jucat
[02:25] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors?
[02:26] <Jucato> mohan: it has an embedded terminal at the bottom too :)
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: yeah i found that bit but none of the colour items seem to describe the window body
[02:26] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: Window Text?
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: like progres windows
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: eg in DeVeDe main window, the text for the options is not readable as the background is black as well as the text
[02:28] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: yes. I'm telling you that the "Window Text" from the dropdown list in the Colors dialog box
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Jucato: i'll check it out man, cheers
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> is there a default config file i can rename to be recreated?
[02:38] <mohan> is there any alternative to gimp in kde apps
[02:38] <firdaus> somebody pls help me.. i dont know how to install software using kubuntu
[02:38] <Jucato> krita
[02:38] <Jucato> although it's not a direct alternative
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> firdaus: sudo apt-get install <program name>
[02:39] <Jucato> firdaus: or use Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager (from K Menu -> System Settings)
[02:40] <firdaus> yup
[02:40] <firdaus> i already found the adept manager
[02:40] <firdaus> then how??
[02:40] <Jucato> search for the package you want to install. right-click on it and Request Install.
[02:40] <firdaus> i already download guitar pro software on the net
[02:41] <Jucato> er...
[02:41] <firdaus> but it cannot be install
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> firdaus: you will have to install wine or cedega or crossover office
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> if they are win32 programs
[02:42] <firdaus> the file is zip file
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> then you need to unzip  it to a folder
[02:42] <firdaus> then i download the winrar to install it
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> winrar is a windows app
[02:42] <Jucato> firdaus: is it a program for Windows or Linux?
[02:42] <firdaus> how to unzip??
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> you need to use archiver
[02:42] <Jucato> firdaus: Ark to unzip
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> menu -> utilitie -> ark
[02:44] <firdaus> oppss.. the file is rar
[02:44] <Jucato> firdaus: if it's a program that's meant for Windows, you can't use it on Linux directly
[02:44] <Jucato> firdaus: install the "unrar" package then you can use Ark to open rar files
[02:44] <firdaus> ooo...
[02:44] <firdaus> one more thing
[02:45] <firdaus> my OS cannot support mp3
[02:45] <ardchoille> firdaus: Are you looking for guitar software?
[02:45] <firdaus> yes
[02:45] <Jucato> firdaus: just install "libxine-extracodecs" and you can play them
[02:45] <ardchoille> firdaus: Why not install something from the repos?
[02:45] <firdaus> what is repos??
[02:46] <ardchoille> firdaus: You should always check the repos before installing software outside the repos. Chances are the software you want might be in the repos
[02:46] <ardchoille> !repos | firdaus
[02:46] <ubotu> firdaus: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:46] <ardchoille> firdaus: I see that "apt-cache search guitar" has several guitar apps in the repos
[02:46] <Jucato> !info kguitar
[02:46] <ubotu> kguitar: an efficient and easy-to-use environment for a guitarist. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 452 kB, installed size 1504 kB
[02:48] <firdaus> owh.. thanx..
[02:48] <firdaus> one more thing.. my pc cannot play mp3
[02:49] <firdaus> i open some mp file using amarok
[02:49] <firdaus> but it cant
[02:49] <Jucato>  <Jucato> firdaus: just install "libxine-extracodecs" and you can play them
[02:49] <ardchoille> !mp3 | firdaus
[02:49] <ubotu> firdaus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:49] <Jucato> doesn't Amarok ask you if you want to install mp3 support?
[02:51] <firdaus> no
[02:53] <Dr_willis> i thought some kde media player did that for video. Not seen it do it for audio/,mp3
[02:59] <don> I cannot seem to get Kubuntu to mount a USB flash drive....
[02:59] <don> or even see it...
[03:01] <darkrift> anyoen know how i check how much ram my video card shows it has (i think its being read wrong)
[03:02] <darkrift> with beryl running, i get lots of black boxes instead of windows and menues
[03:12] <Dr_willis> darkrift,  whats your video card ?
[03:12] <darkrift> nvidia mobile 6150
[03:12] <pawitp> Another blackbox problem
[03:12] <darkrift> got latest drivers
[03:13] <darkrift> some ppl helped me with that
[03:13] <pawitp> 6150
[03:13] <darkrift> 6100 series
[03:13] <pawitp> The same card with the other person who got this
[03:13] <pawitp> I got one integrated on my mobo
[03:13] <darkrift> heh
[03:13] <Delicates> my keyboard stopped working inside KDE. It works in KDM, but stops working once logged in. Any ideas?
[03:13] <darkrift> mines a lappy
[03:14] <pawitp> darkrift: Set in your bios somewhere that gives the card your ram
[03:14] <darkrift> well, vista ssaw 128mb and i havent changed anything
[03:14] <darkrift> so linux should also
[03:14] <pawitp> Integrated board uses system ram
[03:15] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  make a new user - see if it works with them. If so. it may be a setting issue in .kde
[03:15] <pawitp> darkrift: It's actually a problem of how many ram is given to the GFX
[03:16] <pawitp> darkrift: And not how many an OS sees it
[03:19] <darkrift> how do i view how much video ram linux thinks i have?
[03:20] <xst> I have created a new user account on my kubuntu box and has copied the .mozilla/ dir to the homedir of the new account. But firefox seems not to read it: E.g. my bookmarks are not transferred. What to do?
[03:20] <Delicates> what do you know, it was because slow keys were enabled in Accessibility
[03:20] <Delicates> have to hold down the key for several seconds for a character to appear
[03:21] <robert__> hello all
[03:29] <crazy_bus> I've can't find a file on my hd.  And I'm having trouble finding it in kde search.  Is there an easy way to find it?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  theres always the 'find' and 'locate' commands from the shell
[03:32] <Dr_willis> !beagle
[03:32] <ubotu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[03:33] <Dr_willis> or beagle
[03:34] <xst> I have made a clean kubuntu install (Feisty). Is there any easy way of getting most of the usual extra stuff (acroread, flashplayer, etc)?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> a lot of that stuff is in the severas repos I belive
[03:34] <Dr_willis> ~severas
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !severas
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about severas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[03:34] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:35] <BluesKaj> !seveas
[03:35] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:35] <Dr_willis> I recall flash  and video card drivers being rather simple to install
[03:35] <Dr_willis> no idea on acroread :) i dont mess withit much
[03:35] <Dr_willis> !acroread
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Dr_willis> !find acroread
[03:35] <ubotu> File acroread found in apparmor-profiles, gworkspace-apps-wrappers, zsh, zsh-beta
[03:39] <Dr_willis> odd
[03:41] <Kozzi> suddenly I can't play any sound in Kubuntu
[03:41] <Kozzi> and it only works after rebooting the whole pc
[03:44] <Dr_willis> Kozzi,  i saw a few yrs back a system - If i booted to windows then soft-rebooted to linux. Sound would not work. If i was powered off and went straight to linux it would.
[03:44] <Dr_willis> but thats not your case is it?
[03:45] <bonbonthejon> i have that same problem dr_willis
[03:45] <llp78> Can someone tell me if its possible to change the screen were we type the password to login ? how do I change that?
[03:46] <bonbonthejon> llp78: its called kdm, there is a module for kcontrol you can install
[03:46] <Dr_willis> llp78,  Hmm. kdm uses the default res set in the xorg.conf, you could set the default lower I guess. and let each user tweak their own res setting
[03:46] <Dr_willis> Not sure if kdm can have a lower one set. Let me see
[03:46] <Lynoure> llp78: yes, it is. kdm themes.
[03:46] <bonbonthejon> llp78: search in adept
[03:47] <Lynoure> llp78: oh, you asked about resolution...
[03:47] <llp78> ok thanks all for your help
[03:47] <Kozzi> Dr_willis: last night I put Kubuntu into Hibernation and now I turned it back on
[03:47] <Kozzi> that's when sound stopped to work
[03:47] <Lynoure> never mind my answer then, I thought you wanted to change how it looks in general
[03:47] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[03:47] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[03:48] <Kozzi> right now Amarok is playing but there is no sound :(
[03:48] <Dr_willis> hmm I can see where to set larger fonts. but not chagne the res.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> So the problem is "No Sound after comming out of Hibernation Mode"
[03:50] <bonbonthejon> I think there have been other reports of that, I get most of the launchpad bug reports
[03:50] <Kozzi> actually somtimes after leaving pc on for awhile too
[03:55] <Ryiel> !grub
[03:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:57] <burepe> I have a harddrive mounted with the live cd and I deleted alot of stuff but no space is freeing up. Where is it all going?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> burepe, are trying free up space on a partition ?
[03:59] <sivaji> hendaus_ : hi
[03:59] <llp78> Ive installed kdm theme manager - but too make changes "click the admin button" - but there is NO admin button can anyone help?
[03:59] <bonbonthejon> llp78: you can hit alt-f2, then run kdesu kcontrol
[04:00] <hendaus_> sivaji:  :) hi too
[04:00] <hendaus_> sivaji:  i am on yahoo :)
[04:02] <burepe> BluesKaj, the update messed my system. I have to get the stuff I need off it so I am trying to delete what I don't need, save the rest and reinstall. I found the files is .trash-root. I moved them to a folder I made /move. How do I delete the whole folder permanately from the command line? I tried rm -d but it didnt work
[04:03] <sivaji> hendaus_ saw my message just now i  left yahoo
[04:04] <sivaji> hendaus_ i will come there
[04:04] <hendaus_> sivaji: ok
[04:06] <BluesKaj> burepe, what kind of update did you do?
[04:06] <burepe> fiesty
[04:06] <Minataku> burepe: Do you use VMs a lot?
[04:07] <Minataku> Files can be allocated to a particular size but take up no space
[04:07] <burepe> what is a vm?
[04:07] <Minataku> Empty portions inside the file are counted as free
[04:07] <Minataku> burepe: Nevermind
[04:07] <kubuntu> burepe> sudo rm -r [folder name] 
[04:07] <burepe> thanks
[04:07] <markiii> hello, i have got a new grahics card (still nvidia) now i dont get the nvidia drivers to work with it, what do you suggest i do_
[04:07] <markiii> ?
[04:08] <markiii> can i remove the xorg.conf and reinstall the nvidia-glx package_
[04:09] <BluesKaj> not remove markiii, reconfigure X
[04:09] <don> I have a problem with USB flash drive... Kubuntu 7.04 doesn't see it...
[04:09] <Minataku> don: Is there a light on it? Is it lighting up?
[04:10] <markiii> good i will try...
[04:10] <don> yes, it lights up when inserted
[04:10] <don> I read up on it on the message areas, updated KDE, all that
[04:10] <don> yes, I am new to Linux
[04:11] <Minataku> don: Hm
[04:11] <Minataku> Well, the hardware is okay
[04:11] <don> yes, hm...
[04:11] <kubuntu> First Stop for (K)Ubuntu Help > http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy
[04:12] <Balaams_Miracle> Don, are you using an USB hub?
[04:12] <don> One odd thing... I restarted with a Ubuntu Live CD. it at least saw the Memorex Drive.. although it didn't mount it. it did show in media window
[04:12] <don> No, plugged into front port on the case, tried rear ports also, same thing
[04:13] <don> i don't have a powered hub
[04:14] <Balaams_Miracle> Hm, okay. Then that's not it. The reason i asked is because yesterday i bought me an external (USB) harddisk and it wasn't detected by 'buntu until i connected it directly instead of to my (unpowered) USB hub
[04:14] <kubuntu> don> try reformatting flash drive with windoze and try again
[04:15] <Balaams_Miracle> ...So i figured that perhaps other people with roughly similar problems could be experiencing the same thing
[04:15] <don> so, the format is not a issue?   windows/ext3?
[04:15] <don> an issue...
[04:15] <kubuntu> No make it fat 32
[04:15] <kubuntu> both can read it then
[04:16] <don> OK,  I can try that...   it's a U3 drive, does the U3 stuff matter?
[04:16] <JohnFlux_> actually ext3 is a good choice if you only want to read it from your own windows
[04:16] <don> their site said U3 doesn't run on Linux so it acts like a regulat USB flash drive
[04:16] <JohnFlux_> there are very good windows ext3 drivers you can install trivially
[04:16] <JohnFlux_> hmm no point for a small usb flash drive though
[04:17] <JohnFlux_> but for disks it's worth it
[04:17] <Balaams_Miracle> ext2explorer still works in Windows though
[04:17] <kubuntu> Fat32 works fine for both
[04:17] <don> OK, I'll try that... thanks a lot.....
[04:21] <ctuser> hi folks.
[04:21] <ctuser> i need to restrict this machine to be allowed access to only one website only
[04:21] <ctuser> is this possible?
[04:22] <Balaams_Miracle> I would imagine that installing a firewall and blocking all sites except one could work. Did you try that?
[04:24] <ctuser> i could do
[04:24] <kubuntu> ctuser> Can be done with a router/Firewall or by turning your machine into a Kiosk if its meant to showcase your online store or website
[04:24] <ctuser> what firewall would you recommend?
[04:24] <ctuser> kubuntu: thats exactly what its for
[04:24] <ctuser> all i need is the users to have access to a web browser and a single domain
[04:24] <kubuntu> Search Google for [Linux Kiosk] 
[04:25] <Balaams_Miracle> I use Firestarter myself. But you may want to try other packes as well to see which suits you best.
[04:25] <Balaams_Miracle> packes=packages
[04:26] <Balaams_Miracle> But kubuntu's suggestion may even be better, although i have no experience with kiosk mode stuff things....
[04:27] <JohnFlux_> ctuser: or learn iptables.
[04:27] <kubuntu> ctuser> Even Easier - Google: [Firefox in kiosk mode]  for browser controlled access
[04:27] <wers> How do I make KNetworkManager be in automatic configuration mode again?
[04:29] <fdoving> wers: remove all other configurations, for example the device in questions section in /etc/network/interfaces, might be a GUI way to do it too.. though.
[04:30] <mike_> I have problems with my network shares (on Windows via samba). Seems to be related with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/102011/ as I upgraded from Edgy to Feisty
[04:30] <wers> thanks, fdoving, I'll try it
[04:31] <mike_> my Edgy config is identical to Feisty on the other machine, but when trying to mount it just times out after some minutes
[04:33] <mike_> will try to uninstall/install the samba package again. someone else with same experiences ?
[04:33] <ubunturos> anyone using Firefox 1.5.0.11 on 6.06?
[04:33] <BluesKaj> mike_,how many pcs on the network ?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> mike_,  i doubt if Uninstalling/reinstalling will do any good.
[04:34] <wers> what's the best substitute for KNetworkManager? It doesn't work with my hardware
[04:34] <mike_> 2 laptops (as clients: one Edgy, one Feisty). And the Win2000 server (and a Linux webserver)
[04:34] <Dr_willis> thats windows thinking. :)
[04:36] <Minataku> !pidgin
[04:36] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[04:36] <ubunturos> anyone using Firefox 1.5.0.11 on 6.06?
[04:37] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[04:37] <Dr_willis> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+question/5436
[04:38] <Dr_willis> seems to have the procedure to fix samba
[04:38] <Dr_willis> but i dont see how its doing it.
[04:40] <mike_> I will try to dive into that, thanks
[04:40] <BluesKaj> mike_, first of all are you trying to connect to the windows or edgypc when it times out ?
[04:44] <mike_> the edgy and feisty laptops are clients
[04:44] <Minataku> Hey, Dr_willis, I added 7 more screens to http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ :3
[04:44] <mike_> my shares are on a Win2000 server machine
[04:45] <Dr_willis> mike_,  try the smb4k packatge to browse the shares.
[04:45] <Dr_willis> if the ubuntu box's are clients. Ive not see the samba upgrade issue affect them that way. Just as servers
[04:46] <Minataku> My suggestion, if possible, is to trash the Windows server
[04:47] <Daisuke_Ido> not always a possibility for a home user, but yeah, a dapper server would make life easier
[04:47] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  that your OS9 theme? :)
[04:48] <mike_> I'm in the proces of investigating a reinstall of the W2000 server to Kubuntu
[04:48] <Dr_willis> or was that os1 :)
[04:48] <Minataku> Dr_willis: That's A/UX 3.1.1, remember? :D
[04:48] <Minataku> 04-10 are the most recent additions
[04:48] <Minataku> From after I replaced the PRAM battery
[04:48] <markii> is there a problem with geforce 8 cards?
[04:49] <plb_> anyone play videos from this site in konq http://stage6.divx.com?
[04:49] <plb_> works in firefox
[04:50] <olivier> ya personne?
[04:51] <olivier> merde c de l'anglais
[04:51] <Minataku> !fr | olivier
[04:51] <olivier> j'me casse
[04:51] <ubotu> olivier: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:51] <olivier> merci
[04:51] <Minataku> No problem
[04:51] <plb_> parla vous francais =P
[04:51] <plb_> or something like that
[04:51] <mike_> i reinstalled samba-common package. dmesg is giving me: smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[04:51] <plb_> I remember something from french class =)
[04:52] <Minataku> O.o
[04:52] <Minataku> That looks wrong?
[04:53] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You busy as usual today?
[04:54] <xst> How do I get my microphone to record? Currently I can hear myself just fine, but it is not recording (skype doesn't receive any sound)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> yep at least i dident have to DRIVE 4 hrs to go look at this car..
[04:58] <Dr_willis> getting ready to have a huge storm here also. I gotta go pay a few bills.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> befor it hits
[04:59] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Heh
[04:59] <Minataku> I'll bother ya some other time, then XD
[05:00] <sivaji> !nrg
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nrg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> where are you at, Dr_willis
[05:02] <ubuntu__> $grub
[05:02] <ubuntu__> !grub
[05:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Indiana. winds are kicking up. I beeter run now..
[05:02] <Dr_willis> take care.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Batten down the Hatches! a nor-easter is comming!
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> Dr_willis: how far from Cincinnati?
[05:03] <bonbonthejon> I want to know how long before we get it :)
[05:04] <morten> how do I install
[05:04] <morten> Opera?
[05:04] <bonbonthejon> !opera
[05:04] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:04] <Dr_willis> bobstro,  proberly 100+ miles. Im 49 mi North of Indianapolis
[05:05] <Dr_willis> bbl
[05:05] <bonbonthejon> aye, cya later
[05:05] <Jucato> hm.... freshly installed Feisty on a laptop, touchpad doesn't work "nicely" out of the box.. :(
[05:05] <Minataku> Later
[05:05] <Minataku> Stay safe out there
[05:08] <Darth_Homey> hello peeps
[05:09] <mike_> smb4k installed
[05:09] <mike_> I see the domain name of the server and the server, but when connecting it says:
[05:10] <mike_> Could not connect to server
[05:10] <mike_> the account was disabled
[05:10] <bonbonthejon> mike_: what os is the server?
[05:10] <mike_> NT_STATUS_ACCOUNT_DISABLED
[05:10] <mike_> Win2000 Server edition
[05:10] <mike_> i set up the smbpassword file
[05:11] <bonbonthejon> mike_: on the ubuntu, look for making the default user be guest with no password
[05:12] <mike_> under menu option network i found the authentication
[05:12] <mike_> filled it in and voila !
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> mike_: guest worked?
[05:12] <mike_> i see the shares, but no read write
[05:13] <mike_> I have the credentials in a smbpasswd file but mounting the share with fstab doesnt work
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> the guest trick is something I found when trying to set up a printer shared over samba on KDE
[05:13] <bonbonthejon> mike_: can you mount it by typing in the credentials
[05:14] <mike_> now i get: smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> do you have smbfs installed
[05:15] <bonbonthejon> and you need to mount with sudo
[05:16] <mike_> yes i do it with sudo
[05:16] <wers> has anyone successfuly synced a pocket pc  with Kubuntu Feisty?
[05:16] <mike_> smbfs is installed
[05:18] <mike_> hmmm, will try some more later :: have to leave ...
[05:24] <greg_g> where are cores dumped to in kubuntu?
[05:24] <greg_g> $ firefox
[05:24] <greg_g> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> darn dirty bad uptime
[05:28] <Daisuke_Ido> finally need to shut down
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: usually it's the current working directory, but the system may be set not to dump.
[05:29] <Jucato> Tm_T: ping when you're a bit free later
[05:29] <greg_g> hrm, because I ran that command from my home dir and I can't find anything there
[05:30] <greg_g> and I need to figure out what is going on
[05:30] <greg_g> because not being able to run Firefox and other random programs is not acceptable
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: you are experienced at reading core dumps?
[05:31] <greg_g> not much, but it would also be good to supply to someone who is
[05:31] <greg_g> because, otherwise, I only have those 2 lines to give them when I say "Firefox won't load"
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: To be honest, it's unlikely to be helpful.
[05:33] <Jucato> !synaptics
[05:33] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: Is this firefox installed from apt, or from the mozilla installer?
[05:33] <greg_g> apt
[05:34] <greg_g> and another program is doing the same thing
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: kubuntu install or ubuntu upgrade?
[05:34] <greg_g> kubuntu installed on top of ubuntu fiesty
[05:34] <greg_g> VLC player is doing the same thing
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: Anything else?
[05:35] <greg_g> EasyTag
[05:35] <greg_g> pretty much everything I am trying to load right now
[05:35] <greg_g> K3b loads
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: Pretty much all non-kde apps, I'd guess.
[05:36] <greg_g> it is looking like it
[05:36] <SlimeyPete> gtk problem, mebbe?
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> Ja.
[05:36] <greg_g> how can I figure out what is going on?
[05:37] <SlimeyPete> is there a wxvlc package for Ubutu? 'cos I don't think that uses gtk?
[05:37] <SlimeyPete> unless I'm mistaken about what wxwindows is
[05:37] <greg_g> I don't want to install another player, I want to make my programs work again
[05:37] <greg_g> they used to work
[05:38] <SlimeyPete> greg_g: yeah, but if wxvlc works then that'd confirm that it's a gtk issue
[05:38] <Jucato> SlimeyPete: vlc uses wxWidgets. but wxWidgets ues GTK's appearance on Linux
[05:38] <Jucato> (wx uses Windows' appearance on Windows)
[05:38] <SlimeyPete> greg_g: oh wait, it wouldn't, sorry. wx uses gtk
[05:39] <Jucato> but greg_g's problems do make me think it might be a gtk problem...
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: you installed kubuntu-desktop, right?  Or just kde?
[05:40] <greg_g> kubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <greg_g> is there a history of installed apps from apt listed by time/date??
[05:41] <OlliK> aziz_
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: Try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:42] <Jucato> greg_g: /var/log/dpkg.log and similar
[05:42] <greg_g> jhutchins_lt: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> Oh well, worth a shot.
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: The only thing I know for certain that will fix it would be to do a clean reinstall of kubuntu.
[05:44] <mjtunes> ello
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: Does everything run ok in gnome?
[05:44] <greg_g> jhutchins_lt: haven't tried
[05:44] <greg_g> I'll be back
[05:48] <sparr> can anyone recommend an ftp client that can upload an entire directory structure and NOT bail out on the first error?  i need it to reconnect on disconnects, and only use a single connection.
[05:49] <greg_g> things seem to be working in gnome
[05:49] <greg_g> of course though, the problem only manifested itself in kde after a while
[05:53] <greg_g> anyone still around?
[05:55] <mallize> anyone know of a decent visio viewer for linux?
[05:57] <MegaVolt> hi, im having a problem updating kubuntu
[05:57] <MegaVolt> http://rafb.net/p/yPHnrd34.html
[05:57] <MegaVolt> dpkg seems to think the vmlinuz image should be on the boot partition but it isnt ...
[05:57] <MegaVolt> so it wont update the kernel
[05:59] <JuJuBee> I have a laptop with ATI Mobility 960 video, do I have to install teh drivers for ATI to use the external monitor (mirror)?
[06:00] <greg_g> jhutchins_lt: are you still around?
[06:01] <soopafai> JuJuBee: sudo apt-get install fglrx ( thats the proprietary ati graphics driver )
[06:01] <JuJuBee> The built in features under Monitors & Display doesnt work then?
[06:05] <JuJuBee> Extrapan: Couldn't find package fglrx
[06:06] <ardchoille> !fglrx
[06:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:06] <ardchoille> !info fglrx
[06:06] <ubotu> Package fglrx does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:07] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: Yo.
[06:08] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: So I don't know what to tell you, obviously some of the gnome-gtk/kde compatibility stuff is b0rked.  I had a similar problem with Mandriva that just eventually worked it's way out in the course of upgrades.  I switched from xchat to konversation, which I like better, and just didn't use the problem apps, found better ones.
[06:09] <jhutchins_lt> greg_g: I'm sure you could expend a lot of time and effort trying to get the right stuff reinstalled or reconfigured.
[06:12] <JuJuBee> Where is the Restricted Drivers Manager in kde?
[06:12] <Jucato> nowhere
[06:12] <Jucato> there's none yet for Kubuntu
[06:13] <JuJuBee> So how do I install ati drivers in kubuntu?  go to ATI and get them?
[06:13] <Jucato> um... no...
[06:13] <jhutchins_lt> !ati | JuJuBee
[06:13] <ubotu> JuJuBee: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:13] <Jucato> the restricted manager doesn't even get it from ATI. it just installs the one in the repos
[06:13] <MegaVolt> JuJuBee: use apt-get / aptitude
[06:14] <JuJuBee> According to that article I am supposed to open... "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" which is a gnome menu.
[06:15] <JuJuBee> Or should I follow the Edgy directions.
[06:15] <Jucato> JuJuBee: yes. because it's only available in Ubuntu now. on Kubuntu, you just install the necessary packages. that's all
[06:15] <Jucato> yes.
[06:15] <JuJuBee> OK.
[06:15] <MegaVolt> JuJuBee: read the console based part of the howto
[06:16] <JuJuBee> K
[06:17] <Sigh> Hey ppl!! Having some problems getting my microphone to work.. can anyone help? My internet is broken (global) .. but I have a local source on my apt-list.. so i can get packages..
[06:18] <The_Machine> how do i configure samba shares and users on Kubuntu?
[06:21] <dino_> help... non riesco a scaricare synaptic...
[06:21] <dino_> cosa posso fare
[06:22] <dino_> ?
[06:22] <icecruncher> !it | dino_
[06:22] <ubotu> dino_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:22] <dino_> thanks!!!!
[06:22] <icecruncher> np
[06:23] <icecruncher> The_Machine: sorry, no idea
[06:24] <DexterF> hi. need help. kaffeine won't produce sound anymore. xine is fne.
[06:24] <DexterF> default card is set, mixer levels are alright. clueless.
[06:25] <Sigh> what sound device is kaffeine using though? OSS / alsa?
[06:25] <DexterF> should be alsa
[06:25] <Sigh> Hmm.. not sure..
[06:25] <Sigh> ask in #alsa (i'm trying to get in there too)
[06:26] <DexterF> this sucks ass
[06:28] <DexterF> well everything was working for 4 days now the system is acting weird
[06:30] <icecruncher> What's the devie name for the eternet card? (called eth0) I need to find it somewhere....(/dev/)?
[06:32] <voicu> hi, can someone please tell me how can i disable automounting in kde?
[06:33] <voicu> it screws up when i work with cds with non-kde applications
[06:34] <voicu> there is a setting i disabled that says it does just that but i still get that dialog about what i want to do about a new medium
[06:34] <voicu> and i don't like it, it reminds me of windows
[06:37] <mpmc> Can anyone help me, I'm trying to set up my Hauppauge USB2 TV Stick  & I can't figure out how..
[06:37] <ubuntu_> No
[06:37] <ubuntu_> buy a brain :)
[06:37] <mpmc> >.<
[06:37] <icecruncher> lol
[06:38] <mpmc> Seriously not funny.
[06:38] <ubuntu_> so how do i install vista on linux?
[06:38] <icecruncher> mpmc: sorry
[06:38] <ubuntu__> ubuntu_:with great regret
[06:38] <BluesKaj> with VMWare
[06:39] <ubuntu_> oh ok
[06:39] <ubuntu_> !uboto brain mpmc
[06:39] <BluesKaj> or some other virtual OS client
[06:39] <ubuntu_> xen?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> qemu, virtual box
[06:40] <ubuntu_> can i run osx on qemu also?
[06:41] <BluesKaj> never had much luck with them myself ...always a bug some where in my experience , so I just dualboot
[06:41] <ubuntu_> oh ok
[06:41] <ubuntu_> i was thinking about getting a mac for osx but i heard osx has no beryl
[06:41] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_:  go ggogle it and find out ...these are elementary questions that you can find there
[06:41] <icecruncher> though I heard that it was pretty much impossible to dualboot with vista, something with their boot loader
[06:41] <icecruncher> not 100% sure though
[06:42] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj:  i know but the reason why i dont go to google is that if i use google i can get virri
[06:42] <JuJuBee> Jucato : I only have 640x480 when I select clone for second screen.  Also only have refresh rate of 60 now... Used to have up to 85
[06:42] <ubuntu_> and besides google isnt the only webcrawler
[06:43] <ubuntu_> its very dangerous to apply this fiction of one source for all information
[06:43] <icecruncher> :)
[06:43] <BluesKaj> well whatever search engine suits yer needs ... some ppl are here to ask about kubuntu not mac or windows
[06:43] <ubuntu_> google isnt safe to use
[06:43] <ubuntu_> they collect data on people
[06:44] <ubuntu_> and sell it to make adds or even worse to the gov.
[06:44] <JuJuBee> !ati
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:44] <icecruncher> ubuntu_: sure
[06:44] <nik0_> yes but is there another collect data like google?
[06:44] <BluesKaj> !offtopic | ubuntu_
[06:44] <ubotu> ubuntu_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:44] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj:  you told me to google
[06:45] <bch> kubuntu is easy to virtualize windows with VMware.
[06:45] <nik0_> ok thx ubotu
[06:45] <ubuntu_> as if google is the word for all search
[06:45] <BluesKaj> yeah so do it
[06:45] <ubuntu_> its not!!!
[06:45] <BluesKaj> !ops
[06:45] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[06:45] <nixternal_> BluesKaj: ?
[06:45] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: ?
[06:45] <icecruncher> calm down everyone!
[06:46] <ubuntu__> Ha ha :)
[06:46] <BluesKaj> nixternal_ this ubuntu__ guy wants to argue about google, takingh up time a nd space here
[06:46] <nixternal_> if you are going to argue Google, please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:46] <nik0_> i come here to ask how i can install a device on kubuntu hum an easy question for us
[06:46] <icecruncher> BluesKaj is right though, this is a support channel
[06:46] <nixternal_> BluesKaj: I seen that, thanks!
[06:46] <JuJuBee> What's the bot command  for screen res issues?
[06:46] <nixternal_> DaSkreech: you jerk!
[06:46] <BluesKaj> hehe
[06:47] <BluesKaj> :)
[06:47] <icecruncher> haha
[06:47] <gnomefreak> !fixres > JuJuBee  (check your pm)
[06:47] <ubuntu_> i joined offtopic
[06:47] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj:
[06:47] <DaSkreech> nixternal_: wasn't me!!
[06:47] <nixternal_> !offtopic > DaSkreech
[06:47] <nik0_> is there a kinf of panel devices?
[06:47] <nik0_> kind!
[06:47] <JuJuBee> Thanks gnomefreak...
[06:47] <DaSkreech> nixternal: it was the other ubuntu_
[06:47] <gnomefreak> JuJuBee: yw
[06:47] <ubuntu_> so back to kubuntu
[06:47] <nixternal> oh
[06:47] <nixternal> hahahaha
[06:47] <ubuntu_> dont ban me
[06:47] <nik0_> :(
[06:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Good looking out :-P
[06:47] <ubuntu_> please
[06:47] <nixternal> ubuntu_: then stay on topic please. thank you
[06:47] <gnomefreak> ubunturos < that one?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  a great many of us in here use  Kubuntu
[06:48] <tracy_> hi all
[06:48] <nik0_> take your time ;)
[06:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: We aren't we are just asking you to take this disucssion ot #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:48] <tracy_> can anyone download and compile this for me: http://www.rasterman.com/files/render_bench.tar.gz
[06:48] <tracy_> i'm on ISDN and imlib2-dev gets MB of dependancies
[06:48] <nik0_> snifff ! )`
[06:48] <tracy_> also dist-upgradig...
[06:49] <ubuntu_> DaSkreech: i already joined offtopic i am here for the ontopic
[06:49] <ubuntu_> you are a bit slow
[06:49] <ubuntu_> its like that movie office space with the memo
[06:49] <ubuntu_> and 5 or 6 supervisors
[06:49] <nik0_> ok i repeat me hihih just want to know a command or a direction to add a device like the wireless card i do some experiences like usual
[06:49] <icecruncher> tracy_: what is it?
[06:50] <Delicates> when I plug in a USB HD, KDE detects it and asks what to do with it, selecting "Open" doesn't do anything. udevd is running, hald is running. Any ideas on what's wrong?
[06:51] <Dr_willis> is this a NTFS formated HD?
[06:51] <nik0_> toc toc toc!
[06:51] <Delicates> Storage Media applet does not react either, I don't even get an icon
[06:51] <Delicates> Dr_willis: yes
[06:51] <tracy_> icecruncher: an X benchmark
[06:51] <Dr_willis> its proberly getting mounted with the wrong permissions, so only root can access it.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> also check 'media:/' not /media in konqueror.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> check the 'mount' command also - to verify its mounted
[06:52] <Delicates> Dr_willis: it doesn't get mounted at all
[06:52] <ubuntu_> how do i uninstall kde i want to try gnome?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  theres no need to Uninstall it. Install the ubuntu-desktop package and try gnome, then stiwch to kde/gnome on the login screen as needed
[06:52] <DaSkreech> ubuntu_: You do know you can have both?
[06:53] <ubuntu_> oh ok
[06:53] <ubuntu_> no i didnt know that
[06:53] <Delicates> Dr_willis: hrmmmm, it's in there, but when I try to open it it tells me hal-storage refuses my uid
[06:53] <nik0_> ah i have k info center
[06:53] <nik0_> but i can't change in thios window
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  i'd just unmount it. then  mount it manually with the proper options. :) Unless of course you are going to access this a lot.
[06:54] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[06:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:54] <JuJuBee> aticonfig --initial=dual-head is used for using the external rgb connector, correct?  I project my screen to a smartboard...
[06:55] <The_Machine> !samba
[06:55] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:55] <Delicates> Dr_willis: well I want to set it up for my parents so it all works automagically
[06:55] <nik0_> nice tool
[06:55] <Dr_willis> if its to always be installed.. edit the fstab file and make it mount where ya want it to.
[06:56] <deminemi> does anyone know of a good c editor?
[06:56] <deminemi> vi is a bit hard on the eyes after a while
[06:56] <Delicates> Dr_willis: it is a removable USB HD, and I guess I could give it a mount point, but would that turn it into actual fixed HD?
[06:57] <deminemi> usb Hds should get auto-mounted by ubuntu
[06:57] <Delicates> deminemi: well this one doesn't
[06:57] <Dr_willis> it IS gettting mounted - if the mount command says it is. Its just mounting with permissions thats not letting the user access it
[06:57] <Ace2016> HI all
[06:57] <Dr_willis> where does mount say its mounted to?
[06:58] <nik0_> arf
[06:58] <Delicates> Dr_willis: it's not reported as mounted by mount
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  try unplug/repluging in the drive in that case
[06:58] <Ace2016> anyone know a command that'll take a screenshot and put it in the current dir, e.g first time its run it creates 0001.png the second time it will be 0002.png and so on
[06:58] <deminemi> google for it, there is a posting on the redhat site about how to post
[06:58] <Dr_willis> check 'dmesg' output also after replugging it.
[06:58] <nik0_> oh oh i see some stars now! lol
[06:58] <Delicates> Dr_willis: tried doesn't help
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  def check dmesg output then. For some reason ubuntu's not seening it.,
[06:58] <Delicates> Dr_willis: dmesg is fine
[06:58] <deminemi> the other thing is make sure it isn't encrypted
[06:59] <Delicates> Dr_willis: I see it in media:/
[06:59] <dave__> hey
[06:59] <deminemi> i encrypted my external and it wasn't recognized
[06:59] <Delicates> Dr_willis: I just can't access it
[06:59] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  click on it  then see if it automounts? try rightclick?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> what device is dmesg showing it as? sda?
[07:00] <Delicates> Dr_willis: gives me message: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[07:00] <Delicates> yep sda
[07:00] <Dr_willis> try 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' and see what the system thinks is on the drive.
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Someone in here the other day had a ntfs drive that was showion up with the 'sfs' filesystem
[07:00] <Dr_willis> not 'ntfs' like it should of.
[07:01] <Delicates> /dev/sda1   *           1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:01] <Dr_willis> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222
[07:01] <Dr_willis> SHOULD mount it where users can access it.
[07:01] <Dr_willis> wellwith a sudo at the front. :)
[07:01] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#how_do_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume_automatically
[07:01] <DaSkreech> deminemi: kdevelop
[07:01] <nik0_> what can i do with .sys and .inf in linux?
[07:01] <Delicates> well mounting it manually defeats the whole point of the excercise
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: have you tried Printscreen?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Delicates,    not if you need it now.
[07:02] <dave__> Ubuntu is DANGEROUS....well, not really. Basically being a computer engineer in the microsoft field and getting more and more drawn to how amazing Linux is, is kinda dangerous to my future career path! Linux kicks ass on one hand and on the other - MS is where the work is... choices choices.
[07:02] <nik0_> lol dave
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  sounds more and more like a hal issue. i got no idea on debugging hal.
[07:02] <deminemi> thanks skreech
[07:03] <nik0_> your futur career is what?
[07:03] <Delicates> dave__: you want work? go Solaris :oD
[07:03] <Dr_willis> uid 1000 i though was the first user you added also. You got more then 1 user on the system?
[07:03] <dave__> MCSA hopefully.
[07:03] <nik0_> in dave we trust! :p
[07:03] <dave__> i love linux but its kinda hard trying to learn both considering underneath they are both different.
[07:04] <Delicates> Dr_willis, nah just 1
[07:04] <nik0_> one is maybe faster
[07:04] <Ace2016> DaSkreech: i tried it up to 0021 and i realised how many i need to take, its going to take too long unless i use a command, and attach it to a shortcut key
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  not sure why its not working then.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> of course all my usb drives are ext3 filesystems :0
[07:05] <Delicates> speaking of fstab, what's with "UUID" stuff in it?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> thats the new mounting method to insure that drives always get mounted to the proper place
[07:05] <DaSkreech> dave__: Do MS at work and run Linux at home .. and at your friends house .. and relatives ... expeect the in-laws. Muwahahahaha
[07:05] <Dr_willis> each filesystem has its own UUID # and some other info.
[07:06] <nik0_> arf looking for knowledge
[07:06] <Dr_willis> $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[07:06] <dave__> hehe
[07:06] <nik0_> ah!
[07:06] <greg_g> jhutchins_lt: thanks (sorry, was away from the computer)
[07:06] <Delicates> funky
[07:07] <Delicates> probably would screw you up on re-format though
[07:07] <dave__> thats kinda what i have now. a 2k3 domain ctrl'r, with 3 xp vm's joined to it and my own xp machine. + this pc with kunbuntu on just for fun.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Delicates,  you can also mount based on label, or other id info.
[07:08] <nik0_> for fun or for study system?
[07:09] <dave__> linux seems so smart and tidy + feature packed. its perfect. MS seriously need to pull their thumb out. the vista release was a joke. Beryl just laughed at it watching the vidds on youtube.
[07:09] <nik0_> market welcome to the marketland but here is not very the subject
[07:10] <dave__> the ms box's for study purpose. since work is all ms, but the main servers are netware. linux for fun.
[07:11] <nik0_> since work is all ms?
[07:12] <dave__> yeah. all pc's at work run xp with novell client's ( for the netware servers ) so, thats where my knowledge needs to be dedicated towards/
[07:13] <nik0_> ok
[07:13] <dave__> hence the MS track.
[07:13] <dave__> :)
[07:13] <dave__> brb
[07:13] <jacques> does someone already installed gutsy?
[07:13] <icecruncher> not me lol
[07:14] <jacques> do you think it is safe to dist-upgrade? I will like to get a try
[07:15] <icecruncher> Hobbsee: I know you're gonna tell me to read the changelog, but can you give basic changes?
[07:15] <icecruncher> lol
[07:15] <Delicates> Dr_willis, found an interesting bit: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS,_HAL,_KDE_media:/#Mount_NTFS-formatted_media_as_user
[07:15] <Minataku> wb, Dr_willis
[07:15] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: yeah, read the changelog for that.  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/tribe-1/
[07:16] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: sorry, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1/Kubuntu
[07:16] <Minataku> Gutsy Gibbon... I'm hoping someone was on drugs when they decided on that
[07:16] <nik0_> register is born with net
[07:16] <Dr_willis> I still like Farting Fawn
[07:16] <Minataku> Haha
[07:17] <Minataku> Gassy Giraffe
[07:17] <jacques> yeah by i need someone who did it to know if it is safe to do
[07:17] <Dr_willis> i do think they need to retire the cute name/releae catagories
[07:17] <Dr_willis> and have a version # thats somthing OTHER then the release date
[07:17] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Find those calculators or no time (I'm sure it was no time >.< )
[07:17] <icecruncher> jacques: I should think so...
[07:18] <greg_g> jhutchins_lt: question for ya, why do you think firefox is one of the afflicted applications?
[07:18] <icecruncher> Hobbsee: thnks btw
[07:18] <Hobbsee> no problem
[07:20] <Minataku> Dr_willis: PM okay?
[07:20] <icecruncher> jacques: on the site (last link from Hobbsee) read this "NOTE: This is an alpah version..."
[07:20] <Dr_willis> i got 2 min till i leave for work
[07:20] <greg_g> question for ya guys: if I added the kubuntu fiesty kde 3.5.7 repo, but I think that might be causing me problems, how can I down-grade the apps that were upgraded with that repo?
[07:20] <Dr_willis>  plus the power may go out on me at any time. it allready has 4x today :)
[07:21] <Dr_willis> traffic lights are out i hear from the wife. she just got in
[07:21] <Minataku> Heh
[07:21] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I
[07:21] <Minataku> 'll talk with you later/tomorrow then XD
[07:21] <Dr_willis> yea - i think i got both days off this weekend. (i hope)
[07:21] <Minataku> Heehee
[07:22] <Dr_willis> i better leave early for work. Take care
[07:23] <excitatory> If one wanted to have a fully bootable linux distro on an external hard drive, where one could take it from computer to computer and boot into their custom environment, what info or projects should I look into?
[07:23] <Level15> hey. any nice KDE image editors? something like gimp, but kde-aware?
[07:24] <fdoving> Level15: krita
[07:24] <Level15> thanks
[07:25] <nik0_> arf
[07:26] <nik0_> i'm supposed to be register !
[07:27] <nik0_> dave?
[07:27] <ardchoille> I like kommando.. very nice :)
[07:28] <ardchoille> !kommando
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kommando - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <ardchoille> !info kommando
[07:28] <ubotu> kommando: a kde wheel-menu to quickly pick menu items with the mouse. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 118 kB, installed size 464 kB
[07:31] <dave__> is there a commaing in linux to map in a network drive similar to mapping a drive in windows - eg, \\host\folder
[07:31] <Level15> dave__: mount -t nfs
[07:31] <Level15> or mount -t smbfs
[07:32] <dave__> excellent thanks :oD
[07:32] <Level15> hey, any image manipulation gurus around?
[07:33] <Level15> dave__: np
[07:33] <dave__> so wait a sec, which relates to what? i mean server/drive or folder
[07:33] <fdoving> dave__: you can use smb4k for that. that is a package name.
[07:33] <Level15> dave__: what do you want to access? a windows shared folder? or a unix "shared folder" (meaning NFS server)?
[07:34] <dave__> i was using something under the gnome desktop but i switched to kubuntu cus it looks nicer. But what i used under gnome isnt under the kde environment
[07:35] <dave__> its a driver that sits on my server running server 2003
[07:35] <Level15> you want to access a windows shared folder? try smb://server/share on konqueror
[07:35] <dave__> i want the shortcuts to them on here basicaly.
[07:36] <dave__> ok that looks familar, looks like the same one XBMC uses.
[07:36] <Level15> or mount -t smbfs -o user=username,password=pass //server/share /my/mount/directory
[07:36] <dave__> brilliant
[07:36] <Level15> ( I think that's the syntax)
[07:36] <dave__> plenty of answers... i like it :o)
[07:37] <dave__> ill give it a shot anyway :)
[07:37] <Level15> how do i mirror an image under krita?
[07:37] <nik0_> there is no staffers? sniff :)'
[07:38] <ardchoille> stats p
[07:38] <fdoving> nik0_: what do you mean, staffers?
[07:38] <nik0_> yep i see
[07:38] <ardchoille> :(
[07:38] <nik0_> :
[07:38] <nik0_> )
[07:38] <dave__> staffers?
[07:39] <dave__> are they a breed of dog?
[07:39] <nik0_> a kind of person who could be registrer me :p
[07:39] <ardchoille> freenode staffers
[07:39] <dave__> oops
[07:39] <dave__> sry
[07:39] <nik0_> yes ardchoille
[07:40] <fdoving> Level15: layer -> flip X or Y axis.
[07:40] <Level15> fdoving: thanks
[07:40] <nik0_> i know now why spammers or spam exist
[07:45] <dave__> c yas later
[07:46] <jriachi> hello
[07:46] <nik0_> cya :)
[07:47] <jriachi> in my kubuntu desktop, can i use several panels and configure their properties independently? (e.g.  i want a thin panel, another a bit bigger and with another background color,...)
[07:49] <jhutchins_lt> jriachi: Not as far as I know.
[07:49] <fdoving> jriachi: yes, in the configure panel dialog, you get this "Settings for:" and a dropdown menu where you can select the panels. "Main Panel" is the main one.. etc.
[07:50] <ardchoille> jriachi: Yes, once the panels are in place, you can configure them via the panel/taskbar config in kcontrol
[07:50] <jriachi> thanks, fdoving, ardchoille.. i didn't see the drop down menu :)
[07:52] <Siggimund> Hey there
[07:53] <Siggimund> Can nybody help me with a mounting question ?
[07:53] <lithaborn> can someone help with my wusb54gr usb wireless adaptor? i'm using kubuntu 7.4, but it doesn't show up as a network device
[07:54] <Siggimund>  /nybody/anybody/
[07:56] <starhawk> hi I am tring to install the new java 6.0 and am not sure how to do it I am new to this any help will be helpful
[07:56] <Level15> Siggimund: shoot
[07:58] <Siggimund> Level15: Is it possible ot have the smae functionality in kubuntu as in ubuntu with auto mounting a nfts ro drive ?
[07:58] <Siggimund>  /smae/same/
[07:58] <Level15> Siggimund: should be... ubuntu and kubuntu are supposed to be the same, except for the desktop environment
[08:00] <Siggimund> Level15: well I "upgraded" from ubuntu studio feista to kubuntu feista maybe something got lost in the upgrade
[08:01] <sanelson> hello - I have machine with centos on it, on an LVM filesystem; qtparted won't resize it - I think I need lvmreduce, but this isn't on the cd, and I can't find a package that provides it.
[08:02] <Level15> Siggimund: i wouldn't really know...
[08:02] <sanelson> what can I do?
[08:03] <bee2643> how do i install 3.5.7 of KDE
[08:03] <Siggimund> Level15: Thx anyway :) - In ubunto (Gnome) when I click on a ntfs drive I get a password konfirm. Kubuntu(kde) just comes up with an error
[08:04] <lithaborn> hi, need help getting 7.04 to see my wusb54gr usb lan card. i looked thru google and i guess it should work but the card isn't showing as a net device.
[08:05] <Level15> Siggimund: that's... strange. my ntfs drives are mounted when i boot up the system, no passwords asked... ever
[08:07] <Siggimund> Level15: Hmm, maybe It's the Ubuntu Studio -> Kubuntu that has gone wrong.. Do your /etc/fstab have any mention of thos drives. Mine don't ?
[08:08] <Level15> yes, they are there...
[08:08] <Level15> yours don't?
[08:09] <Level15> hm
[08:09] <Level15> then just add them :D
[08:09] <Siggimund> Level15:  Nope. Are they readonly (the ntfs drives ) ?
[08:10] <Siggimund> Level15: Yes, would you hint me to what to write to get them readonly ?
[08:11] <Level15> sure
[08:11] <Level15> just add ro on options y think
[08:11] <Level15> Siggimund: do you want to mount by UUID or by device name?
[08:12] <Siggimund> Level15:  whats the difference (pro /con)
[08:13] <Level15> Siggimund: if you ever move your drives so that /dev/hda becomes /dev/hdb, and you use device names, you should change your fstab. if you use uuid, you won't have to
[08:13] <Level15> but involves getting some information first
[08:14] <Siggimund> Level15: Ahh - well the UUID must be the best choice
[08:14] <ardchoille> blkid
[08:14] <ardchoille> !uuid
[08:14] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:14] <x_> does K3B allow you to edit iso's or just make/burn them
[08:15] <ardchoille> x_: You can't "edit" an iso, it's a finalised file system. You can, however, mount them, copy the contents to another dir, then make changes and make a new iso.
[08:15] <Level15> Siggimund: ok, get the uuid: as root, run: vol_id /dev/myntfspartition"
[08:15] <Level15> forget that extra "
[08:16] <starhawk> hi I am tring to get the new version of java installed any help with this
[08:16] <ardchoille> Level15: Isn't it easier to just run "blkid" in a term?
[08:16] <Level15> ardchoille: i don't know what that is :D
[08:16] <ardchoille> Level15: Open a term and type  blkid
[08:17] <Level15> oh, that's neat
[08:17] <ardchoille> :)
[08:17] <x_> ardchoille.  so say i have an iso file and forgot to put a folder in it, i can mount the iso drag in the folder and make an new image ?
[08:17] <ardchoille> !uuid > Level15
[08:18] <Level15> ardchoille: sorry?
[08:18] <ardchoille> x_: You can mount the iso, copy the contents of the iso to a new dir, drag in the forgotten folder and then make a new iso.
[08:18] <ardchoille> Level15: The bot should have sent you a pm with some info
[08:19] <x_> thx
[08:19] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[08:19] <Siggimund> Level15:  ardchoille: with blkid - well my ntfs drives just prints /dev/sda1: TYPE="ntfs", My linux drives gives UUID ?
[08:19] <Level15> ardchoille: oh, yeah, it did
[08:20] <Level15> ardchoille: thx :)
[08:20] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[08:20] <Level15> Siggimund: hmmm,  you are right, same here... let me check
[08:20] <ardchoille> Siggimund: There's more info about uuid here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks
[08:20] <Siggimund> ardchoille: I'll go check - bbim
[08:21] <Level15> Siggimund: did you use blkid or vol_id?
[08:21] <Level15> ardchoille: i think blkid does not show uuid for ntfs :(
[08:21] <ardchoille> Level15: :(
[08:21] <Siggimund> Level15:  blkid - Iwas about to try vol_id
[08:21] <ardchoille> I've never used ntfs, so I can't say.
[08:22] <Level15> Siggimund: use that, i think blkid is not showing it
[08:23] <starhawk>  hi I am tring to get the new version of java installed any help with this
[08:23] <ardchoille> !java
[08:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[08:23] <starhawk> thank you
[08:23] <Siggimund> Level15:  yeah - as root I got a 16 hexdigit number
[08:24] <Level15> ok. you need something like UUID=whaeveryougot on the first field of your fstab
[08:24] <Siggimund> Level15:  mkay
[08:25] <Level15> next is mount point, so you choose
[08:28] <Panda200x> :/ dumb question, where is the login script?
[08:28] <Siggimund> Level15:  goit - like the other uuid's in fstab: fs mountpoint type options ...: so : uuid=XXXX /mnt/disk1 ntfs ro ... ?
[08:28] <shadowhywind> does anyone have any ideas why i when i ping, i only get responses when i use an ip and not the hostname?
[08:29] <Level15> i think that should do it
[08:30] <adaptr> shadowhywind because your dns is not configured correctly - or at all ?
[08:30] <ardchoille> shadowhywind: dns issues?
[08:30] <shadowhywind> i would i check all that out?
[08:31] <Siggimund> Level15:  Now I just wonder if this wont confuse Gnome ( I login to both) but anyway if this succed I wont need to anymore :)
[08:31] <gdiebel> !konversation | gdiebel
[08:33] <Level15> Siggimund: i think gnome was asking for root passwd to mount that... so if it's already mounted, there should be no problem
[08:34] <Siggimund> Level15:  Yeah youre right
[08:36] <shadowhywind> ok heres a question, i am not sure i have the right term. when you have user@compName   what is the correct term for compName hostname or domain name?
[08:36] <faidillinger> i got a problem with azureus on kubuntu, it wont launch azureus anymore
[08:37] <faidillinger> i get the azureus splash screen, but it quits right after
[08:40] <Siggimund> Level15:  what options in fstab do you have something like "nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0" just found this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[08:40] <doneill> shadowhywind: hostname
[08:40] <doneill> shadowhywind: domain would x.com/net/org/etc
[08:41] <doneill> shadowhywind: foo.bar.com would be a 'host', where 'foo' is a hostname and 'bar.com' is a domain name
[08:41] <Level15> let me check
[08:41] <Level15> defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[08:41] <adaptr> doneill except, of course, that foo.bar.com is also a domainname, and bar.com can also be a hostname :)
[08:41] <Level15> don't know what's that gid doing over there
[08:41] <doneill> adaptr: no, it can be a 'host', but not a hostname.
[08:42] <shadowhywind> doneill ok thanks. so i did have the right term. Can anyone help me figure out why my dns is screwed up?
[08:42] <adaptr> Level15 that chowns the mount to the indicated group, so's you can actually access it if you belongs to that group
[08:42] <doneill> foo.bar.com may only be a domain name if it is parent to other hosts, such as boo.foo.bar.com
[08:42] <lithaborn> foo is a subdomain of bar.com
[08:42] <adaptr> doneill that's not so, read the RFC :)
[08:42] <Level15> yeah i know... i mean, i have no idea how it got to my fstab
[08:42] <doneill> shadowhywind: what's in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:42] <doneill> adaptr: i'm going by dictionary here
[08:42] <adaptr> EVERY hostname is, by definition, a domain as well
[08:42] <shadowhywind> nameserver 192.168.2.1
[08:43] <doneill> hmm
[08:43] <doneill> i think i will look that up, actually
[08:43] <adaptr> that's why they call it a fully qualified *domain* name...
[08:44] <Siggimund> What would be the most secure fstab lines but still read access to most of the ntfs ?
[08:44] <doneill> yep, that makes sense
[08:44] <doneill> so a hostname is a FQDN, i'm very wrong
[08:44] <doneill> my apologies :)
[08:47] <shadowhywind> so is my /etc/resolv.conf right?
[08:47] <darkrift> question
[08:47] <darkrift> when i set a picture as backround
[08:47] <darkrift> how come it only goes to one side of my beryl cube
[08:48] <darkrift> is that a kde or a beryl issue
[08:52] <Panda200x> where is the login script? i need to set something for a toolchain.
[08:53] <Siggimund> Level15: Ahh gid Group ID - so if I leave Out which IDs can have access will it default to root ?
[08:55] <Boje> feierNabend
[08:55] <xst> I use knetworkmanager in order to connect to a wireless network. But each time I have to reenter the passphrase for the network. How can I make it remember it from session to session?
[08:55] <Siggimund> Boje: feireaben to you to have a nice weekend
[08:57] <jhutchins_lt> darkrift: Obviously you can set different backgrounds for each face of the cube.
[08:59] <marek_> hi
[08:59] <marek_> anyone know where Konversation save the settings?
[09:00] <Level15> Siggimund: i think it will
[09:00] <Level15> marek_: not sure, but i guess .kde/share/apps/konversation
[09:00] <dave__> hey can i install Beryl via add/remove programs or do i need to use adept?
[09:02] <Siggimund> Level15:  okay,  so suid=MyID will probably give me readonly access I guess ?
[09:02] <Siggimund> Level15: Just reading it in "man mount"
[09:03] <Level15> i think you might want uid instead of suid... though i have nevere really played with that
[09:04] <Level15> Siggimund: for the time being, you might just want to see if after a reboot it is automagically mounted :D
[09:04] <excitatory> dave__: um.. they are one in the same.
[09:04] <Siggimund> Level15: Ahh theres different options for different FS
[09:04] <Siggimund> Level15:  :) yeah learning by doing
[09:04] <Level15> i did play with umask once...
[09:05] <dave__> lol k ( still figuring stuff out )
[09:05] <dave__> thanks
[09:05] <dave__> doing it now. im eager to try it out
[09:06] <excitatory> dave__: one sec.. you should follow the official guide.
[09:07] <excitatory> dave__: first, the irc channel #ubuntu-effects is a great resource
[09:07] <excitatory> dave__: and second, what video card do you have?  dapper or feisty?
[09:08] <Siggimund> Level15: I'll Try it out and see if my laptop explodes :P. And thx for all the help :D cya later
[09:09] <dave__> errm its an 82945g express family. so a basic one. i was kinds just takin a stab in the dark see if it'll run it. it runs command and conquer zero hour at 1024x768 on high.
[09:10] <dave__> gonna run it now so if i suddenly disapear you know why
[09:11] <excitatory> dave__: yea, well there WAS a great tutorial on installation, but some ass deleted the wiki for the time being.
[09:11] <RytmenPinnen> is it possible to downgrade apps with adept?
[09:12] <dave__> ok thanks anyway. err its "kind of" workin...just hace completely lost my minize, maximize and close buttons!
[09:12] <RytmenPinnen> I've installed wine .38 and but for some folks(including me) steam is broken in 38
[09:13] <nbcb> how to configure my side mouse buttons in kubuntu? i'm using diamondback razor mouse
[09:13] <dave__> have to brb and reboot
[09:13] <kushal06062007> hello
[09:14] <kushal06062007> what problem if any does kubuntu 7.04 have with Intel motherboard D845GLLY ?
[09:14] <kushal06062007> Kushal has entered the room.
[09:17] <nbcb> how to configure my side mouse buttons in kubuntu? i'm using diamondback razor mouse
[09:17] <jhutchins_lt> kushal06062007: The server automatically announces when you join a channel.  There's a hardware compatibility list on the ubuntu web site.
[09:17] <kushal06062007> ok
[09:18] <jhutchins_lt> Most of the hardware issues for current hardware are minor though, things like sound or video.
[09:19] <dave__> wow... how good is that. i rebooted and it started all my programs back up....on its own!
[09:19] <NiceGuyUK> Saved sessions are cool, yes ;)
[09:20] <dave__> what a rube!
[09:22] <shadowhywind> lol! i just fixed my hostname issue... i installed samba...
[09:26] <jermain> i need help :( My bar is gone, the one with the applications
[09:27] <jermain> i cant get it back
[09:27] <ardchoille> jermain: You mean the panel at the bottom?
[09:27] <jermain> yes
[09:27] <to6eto> hi all
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> hello
[09:28] <WebAppMonkey> I'm looking to switch from OpenSuSe because of Novell's conduct. How does Kubuntu stack up?
[09:28] <ardchoille> jermain: ALT+F2, type in: dcop kicker default start   and see if that starts it again
[09:28] <WebAppMonkey> I like the use of the apt-get over RPMs already, but do things like beryl, xgl, etc easily install?
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: pretty good... I switch myself (but b4 novell)
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: really couldn;t be much easier
[09:29] <jermain> no changes, ill try again, maybe i made a typo
[09:29] <WebAppMonkey> Good Good, I used slackware for a good two years.. and not having to compile your own X server to get 3d compositing is nice ;)
[09:29] <ardchoille> WebAppMonkey: I have an 8 year old neice using kubuntu all by herself, can't get much easier than that.
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> jermain: your panel crashed?
[09:29] <WebAppMonkey> Does the default install come with GCC, etc?
[09:29] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: haha
[09:29] <jermain> ardchoille: no change
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: no, but "spt-get build-essential" will get it
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> *apt
[09:30] <ardchoille> jermain: Well, if it comes down to it, you can ctrl+alt+backspace to kill x and try logging in again.
[09:30] <jermain> k
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> ardchoille: jermain: what is the problem?
[09:31] <WebAppMonkey> nosrednaekim: Well, slightly disapointing it isn't default, but good enough. Another question: Does Kubuntu stick to using KDE's control panels to configure hardware etc? Or is it mostly proprietary?
[09:31] <ardchoille> WebAppMonkey: sudo apt-get install build-essential   <-- will install the stuff needed to compile.
[09:31] <ardchoille> WebAppMonkey: But, I have been using *buntu since warty and I've never had to compile anything, the repos are huge.
[09:31] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: again. they have their own thing called kde-guidance, which is not as good as SUs'es yet
[09:31] <WebAppMonkey> ardchoille: I just like to do it sometimes for fun, things like bleeding-edge KDE4
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> but you CAN use the default Kcontrol as well
[09:32] <WebAppMonkey> Yeah, I just really dislike SuSe's use of Yast instead of just improving KControl
[09:32] <ardchoille> WebAppMonkey: Well, *buntu will allow you to do that :)
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: kubuntu has all the Alphas of KDE4 they day they are released
[09:33] <WebAppMonkey> nosrednaekim: That's not as fun though! And not *optimized* (as though it makes a difference)
[09:33] <jermain> restarting didn't help,..
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: heh... yeah. well.. there are instuctions for building KDE4 for kubuntu
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> jermain: what is the problem?
[09:34] <jermain> nosrednaekim: i lost my panel
[09:34] <jermain> i had it at the top of my screen
[09:34] <jermain> when i went to it
[09:34] <jermain> it flashed on the bottom
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> jermain: go into kcontrol, go to configure panel.. mess around with thesettings and hit apply
[09:34] <jermain> then dissappeared
[09:34] <jermain> k
[09:35] <llp78> in konqueror i prefer to see the file in "detailed file view" - but when i close konqueror and re-open it - konqueror has reset itself to icons - any ideas?
[09:36] <WebAppMonkey> llp78: Konq has setting profiles saved for a few different cases
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> llp78: set konqueror to detailed file view and then go to "settings-> save view profile
[09:36] <ardchoille> llp78: Set konq up the way you want it, then click Settings -> Save View Profile..
[09:37] <WebAppMonkey> llp78: Click Settin... Yeah, like ard...
[09:37] <nosrednaekim> llp78: you'd be surprised how often that is asked
[09:37] <llp78> omg thanks for all the help ill try it - overwhelmed with help here :)
[09:39] <jermain> Ardchoille & nosrednaekim: I got it back. Thank you guys!
[09:39] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[09:39] <llp78> nosrednaekim, ardchoille, ardchoille, WebAppMonkey, thanks all for your help - all sorted now (Y)
[09:39] <nosrednaekim> jermain: its anoying when that happens.. hasn't happened to me in fiesty yet though
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> llp78: good.
[09:40] <jermain> ^^ i guess me being the first makes me a pioneer haha
[09:41] <jermain> well, faith in ubuntu = ++1
[09:41] <nosrednaekim> jermain: yeah like the kind of pioneer who was the first to be shot by indians..
[09:42] <jermain> haha you're not seeing the silverline behind the cloud here ;)
[09:42] <jermain> Well, time for further tinkering with stuff i know nothing about. Thanks again and goodnight people
[09:43] <RytmenPinnen> helo, how do I downgrade apps with adept?
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> jermain: heh... you mean the silver bullet in the cloud of gunsmoke?
[09:43] <RytmenPinnen> steam is broken with wine version .38
[09:43] <mzanfardino> is anyone familiar with the SnagIt utility and is there a similar utility available for linux?
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: hmm interesting question.... I'm not sure that you can.
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> mzanfardino: what does this app do?
[09:44] <RytmenPinnen> ah, k
[09:44] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: do you know?
[09:45] <mzanfardino> it's a screen capture utility that permits selection of regions and such, including out-of-bounds such as scrolling screens, etc.
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> ksnapshot doesn't work?
[09:46] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim you sure? cause peeps in winehq says you can :P
[09:46] <RytmenPinnen> didnt remember where tho...
[09:47] <dave__> hey, ive only used irc chat a couple of times. how'd i get more channels?
[09:47] <mzanfardino> nosrednaekim: wasn't aware of this tool.  I will check it out
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: hey./... if you can find it I would be interesting in knowing how
[09:48] <RytmenPinnen> k, im checking with the ubuntu peeps
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> mzanfardino: just press printscreen.lol
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> dave__: where do you want to go?
[09:48] <mzanfardino> nosrednaekim: ah, ok, no, well, that might not work so well.  I have pages of documentation that I might like to capture that extend beyond a single screen...
[09:48] <dave__> i dunno i was just kinda hoping to browse
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> what do you want to know?
[09:49] <dave__> errm, the universe the inside of a black hole...
[09:49] <dave__> oh the chat!
[09:50] <dave__> nothing really, just wanna explorer a irc a bit
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> dave__: hmmm I don't know how do get the channel list.
[09:50] <dave__> k np
[09:50] <dave__> ill google it :o)
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> dave__: good idea... wish more people around here would do that.... ;)
[09:51] <WebAppMonkey> Ok, /list was a bad idea with kopete apparently.
[09:51] <WebAppMonkey> Bceause Kopete is really really mad at me
[09:53] <dave__> lol
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: heh.... the list server is down says konversation
[09:53] <dave__> techie... its a regular thing
[09:53] <dave__> :o)
[09:53] <WebAppMonkey> Time to file a bug report it seems
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> yeah..... google and man are you freinds.
[09:54] <dave__> strictly a windows touble shooter. just playin around with linux for a bit of wide spread knowledge.
[09:54] <dave__> hehe, uh huh.
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: what happened? maybe I can reproduce it
[09:54] <WebAppMonkey> dave__: Be careful, you'll get so used to having a responsive capable OS you'll not want to go back
[09:54] <dave__> its kinda looking that way already
[09:54] <dave__> i dont wanna use my xp machine
[09:55] <WebAppMonkey> nosrednaekim: I /list 'ed, it worked fine and I closed it. I did it again and closed it right away, then Kopete consumed one of my cores 100% until I quit it
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> linux knowledge can never hurt you (except to make you frustrated at the woefully inadequate windows shell
[09:55] <dave__> but... since i work with xp allllll day troubleshooting i have little choice.
[09:55] <dave__> yep
[09:56] <dave__> its wrong mate. and this...all this is FREE!!!
[09:56] <WebAppMonkey> dave__: Install linux on every machine with problems, they might fire you (or you'll lose your clients)... But at least you'll have done a few people a favor.
[09:56] <dave__> LOL
[09:56] <ardchoille> lol
[09:56] <mahdi> got a problem trying to use fluxbox, how do i terminate the current window manager?
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: sounds like  bug.... search and see if tehre is already one though
[09:56] <WebAppMonkey> mahdi: You can ctrl+alt+backspace, but that'll kill your whole Xserver
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> mahdi: you mean like KDE?
[09:57] <WebAppMonkey> nosrednaekim: Yeah, I'm going to work on reproducing it later
[09:57] <dave__> im aiming for my mcsa. thats where the money is. thats the prob, microsoft have industries by the b*lls its to big of a thing to migrate to linux but, more and more companies are looking in to it. so here i am.
[09:57] <shachaf> mahdi: Do you want to keep the rest of KDE running?
[09:57] <mahdi> ctrl+alt+backspace kills the xserver but automatically restarts it, so thats not particularly helpful.
[09:57] <mahdi> don't really care if the rest of it is running, preferrably not though
[09:58] <shachaf> mahdi: In that case, it should be an option when you log in.
[09:58] <[ifroog] > Hi friends..
[09:58] <WebAppMonkey> mahdi: ctl+a... pressed at a fast enough interval generally falls back to a shell ;)
[09:58] <mahdi> shachaf: i usually use auto-login so it hadn't occured to me to try that, i'll be right back i suppose
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> it handles it exactly the same way
[09:59] <shachaf> nosrednaekim: Was I bashing KDE?
[09:59] <mahdi> WebAppMonkey: and c+a+b enough times will do that as well ;)
[09:59] <shachaf> nosrednaekim: I just didn't know the names of the buttons, etc.
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> shachaf: no...
[10:00] <WebAppMonkey> mahdi: Yeah, I tried to abbreviate the keypresses there
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> shachaf: yeh I know... didn't mean to criticize you or anything
[10:00] <mahdi> WebAppMonkey: it all makes sense now......
[10:02] <WebAppMonkey> Now if someone could tell me why my rails database is being such a * I would be happier.
[10:03] <shachaf> WebAppMonkey: What is your Rails database doing?
[10:03] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: cause thats the way Ruby is.... use Python ;)
[10:03] <WebAppMonkey> shachaf: It seems there are some orphaned child objects, but their parent still exists... they just refuse to admit it
[10:04] <sybux> hi all
[10:04] <shachaf> WebAppMonkey: Well... I haven't used Rails since way pre-1.0, so I don't really know.
[10:04] <nosrednaekim> hello sybux
[10:04] <sybux> I've got a very stupid question. I'm running putty in X11 forwarding mode. I'd like to display a picture but I don't know which program to use !
[10:04] <WebAppMonkey> textbook.section.chapter.unit returns a nil object when it exists! GRRR
[10:04] <shachaf> WebAppMonkey: Maybe #rubyonrails will help you, though.
[10:05] <mahdi> holy crap is fluxbox fast
[10:05] <WebAppMonkey> shachaf: Yeah, I'm sure it is just me being stupid somewhere
[10:05] <shachaf> mahdi: Compared to KDE, yes. :-)
[10:05] <nazgjunk> hey, sometimes my system does something rather odd. For some reason whenever my cursor is supposed to changed to the pointing-hand thing i can't see it anymore - i'm on kde btw.
[10:05] <nazgjunk> all #ubuntu could give me was "eww kde"
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> mahdi: yep... if you want something with a little more meat, use XFCE.
[10:06] <nazgjunk> it takes a reboot to fix it right now as i have no idea why it happens
[10:06] <shachaf> mahdi: Or use something with a little less meat, like xmonad. :-)
[10:06] <nazgjunk> it's not always though, just sometimes i have the problem
[10:06] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: ... That is odd.. What video drivers are you using? possibly?
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> nazgjunk: hehe... well thats what you hear on here if you mention GN***
[10:06] <nazgjunk> nosrednaekim, cute, that's my usual response
[10:06] <nazgjunk> eh, *cool
[10:07] <nazgjunk> WebAppMonkey, no idea :/ where would i quickly check that?
[10:07] <nazgjunk> even though i can't imahine how my video drivers could be the problem
[10:07] <mahdi> have to play with this a while before i start with even more stuff
[10:07] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: I'll assume then you aren't using the proprietary Nvidia or ATI drivers?
[10:07] <nazgjunk> not that i know of, so probably no
[10:07] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: I'm grasping at straws.. I've never encountered anything like that
[10:07] <nazgjunk> it's very odd :/
[10:08] <shachaf> mahdi: By the way, have you considered Openbox?
[10:08] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: I know Nvidia alpha-shading on the cursor can cause problems sometimes..
[10:08] <shachaf> mahdi: I hear a new version came out recently, but I don't know that much about the *boxes.
[10:08] <nazgjunk> it's kind of annoying how i can't see my cursor in 90% of the amarok window
[10:08] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: That would be...
[10:08] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: Have you tried changing the cursor your are using in Kcontrol?
[10:08] <nazgjunk> i'll try and mess with it some more then
[10:09] <nazgjunk> i think i have
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> nazgjunk: does the normal cursor reappear hen you move off the link?
[10:09] <nazgjunk> yes
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> nazgjunk: does just logging out help?
[10:09] <nazgjunk> sometimes, yes
[10:09] <nazgjunk> but not always
[10:09] <nazgjunk> which makes it even stranger
[10:09] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: That says to me kernel/driver issues
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> nazgjunk: sounds like a KDE problem then.
[10:10] <nazgjunk> heh
[10:10] <sybux> I've got a very stupid question. I'm running putty in X11 forwarding mode. I'd like to display a picture but I don't know which program to use !
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: logging out does not restart the xserver.
[10:10] <WebAppMonkey> nazgjunk: If it comes back after closing your X-server though... and through multiple KDE boots... that's weird
[10:10] <WebAppMonkey> nosrednaekim: Ah, true
[10:11] <WebAppMonkey> sybux: kview
[10:11] <nazgjunk> brb
[10:11] <sybux> WebAppMonkey: ty
[10:12] <WebAppMonkey> sybux: Didn't your mother ever tell you not to look at other people's pron?
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> didn't your mom ever not to do it PERIOS?
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> *PERIOD
[10:13] <sybux> WebAppMonkey: can you plz go outsite ?
[10:13] <WebAppMonkey> no
[10:13] <sybux> :(
[10:14] <sybux> WebAppMonkey: btw, do you know another program because I dont' want to install the all kde packages on my server
[10:15] <WebAppMonkey> sybux: gwenview is one, xview is pretty global, but hard to use
[10:17] <WebAppMonkey> sybux: Well, usage for xview is "xview [image] " But you can't do any modifications or zooming with a GUI
[10:17] <jhutchins_lt> WebAppMonkey: Imagemagick will display the picture.
[10:18] <sybux> WebAppMonkey: it doesn't matter it's just to see webcam capture
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> sybux: you COULD install photoshop. ;)
[10:18] <sybux> nosrednaekim: you could also go OUT !
[10:18] <WebAppMonkey> jhutchins_lt: I couldn't remember how to spell it and I don't have an executable on my system :)
[10:18] <jhutchins_lt> sybux: imagemagick
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> sybux: hehe
[10:18] <ahmed> any one tried kvm ??hello
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> ahmed: I did... but it doesn't work
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> for me.
[10:19] <ahmed> doesnt work ?
[10:19] <ahmed> u mean u couldnt install xp or wat
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> ahmed: I couldn't boot a CD. or a image
[10:20] <sybux> and do you know a good deamon to capture webcam picture ? I've tryed camgrab but it take only half of the picture :(
[10:20] <ubuntu__> ./j plasma
[10:21] <darkrift> damnit
[10:21] <darkrift> my settings are all screwed up now
[10:21] <jhutchins_lt> darkrift: Your mother's listening.
[10:22] <darkrift> lol
[10:22] <darkrift> and?
[10:23] <AmyRose> If I use the KDE time/date setting control module and tell it to use NTP, will it keep adjusting the clock or do I have to install a separate NTP daemon for that?
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> she doesn't like it when you say things like that...
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: I think the NTP daemon is already installed
[10:23] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: No, it's not.
[10:24] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: They said on Launchpad that it won't be included by default for security reasons
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose:it is on mine...
[10:24] <Tired_> Hi.  I just got a new monitor, and I can't make it display at the right resolution.  I followed the steps in the FAQ linked in the topic to no avail.  The only resolution in my xorf.conf is 1680x1050 (the native res of the monitor), but it will only give me 1024x768 in actuality.  How can I fix this?
[10:24] <crowbar> IS there a way to hange the font color on the desktop of icons?  They are white and black and make it hard to see.
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: ah.. maybe that was in edgy.
[10:25] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: I'm just trying to find out if I need one or not.
[10:25] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: I did a clean Feisty install and don't have it.
[10:25] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: I know I *can* install it. My question is if I need it.
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: ah. just set the KDE date/time thing to use NTP and see what happens.
[10:27] <AmyRose> maybe I'll try changing the clock and see if it changes back
[10:28] <Tired_> here is my xorg.conf:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24762/
[10:28] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: yeah... al
[10:28] <Tired_> What am I doing wrong?
[10:29] <ubuntu__> Hey... with 2gb ram on a desktop machine, how large should my swap partition be?
[10:29] <nosrednaekim> I'd say 512 - 1GB
[10:30] <stingray> hmm?
[10:30] <WebAppMonkey> I'd say 1GB as well, that is what I run
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu if you went that overboard with RAM... I figure you have a large drive..lol
[10:30] <WebAppMonkey> 2GB isn't overboard you insensitive clod!
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: does the manual say anything about reccomended refresh rates?
[10:31] <stingray> nah
[10:31] <stingray> 2gb is nessecary these days to be honest
[10:31] <stingray> but uhm
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> WebAppMonkey: in soviet russia it rams YOU..
[10:31] <stingray> thought the rule was something like 1xRAM or 2xRAM for swap?
[10:31] <govert> hello
[10:32] <Tired_> nosrednaekim: No, not that I can see, just sync values
[10:32] <HaSH> but if you have enough ram your computer shouldnt even touch the swap
[10:32] <govert> i'm an irc newbie and i need some help woth kubuntu
[10:32] <WebAppMonkey> Yeah, but if you want to have vista allow you to try it, 2GB is strongly recommended
[10:32] <HaSH> i got 2 gigs...and ive never seen my computer hit swap
[10:32] <nosrednaekim> HaSH: yeah thats what I was thinking
[10:32] <stingray> HaSH: i plan on using every single mb of my ram
[10:32] <llp78> ive got 1.5 and never seen it swap eiter
[10:32] <stingray> hmm
[10:32] <stingray> okay
[10:32] <nosrednaekim> HaSH: I have 1 GB... almost never touches swap, and I have 2GB of it just in case
[10:33] <HaSH> i rarely see my use go over 1 gig
[10:33] <Tired_> I have 512MB of RAM, and Kubuntu decided to install without a swap at all, and I have no trouble, so swap can't be that important.
[10:33] <stingray> Btw, is NTFS writing still experimental? (kubuntu 6.06)
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: ah.. did you put those values in the Xorg?
[10:33] <govert> anyone knows where to get some support on irc?
[10:33] <Tired_> nosrednaekim: Yes.
[10:33] <nosrednaekim> stingray: oh yah..
[10:33] <HaSH> stingray, yes
[10:33] <stingray> thought so
[10:33] <stingray> =/
[10:33] <HaSH> stingray, pl sa its "stable"......no
[10:33] <HaSH> *ppl say
[10:33] <llp78> govert: support on irc huh
[10:34] <HaSH> ive nuked a few ntfs partions
[10:34] <WebAppMonkey> Tired_: Don't open a 200MB jpeg in GIMP... linux doesn't like it when you run out of RAM + Swap :)
[10:34] <Jack3> does kubuntu come with port 21 open?
[10:34] <HaSH> WebAppMonkey, lol who has 200mb jpegs
[10:34] <WebAppMonkey> Tired_: In fact, it pretty much gives up and kills itself
[10:34] <Jack3> i cant seem to connect to an ftp
[10:34] <HaSH> Jack3, ubuntu ships with 0 ports open
[10:34] <Tired_> govert: This is the place to be, but you don't need to ask if you can ask here, just ask your question.
[10:34] <WebAppMonkey> HaSH: Blue Marble does, and when you are mapping using those textures, it eats you.
[10:34] <llp78> Jack3 no there is no ftp server by default
[10:34] <govert> well, i need some help woth kubuntu. is this the right place to ask?
[10:34] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Yea
[10:34] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: hmm... since its a LCD... make that VertRefresh a little broader, like 20-80
[10:35] <Jack3> i dont have an ftp server
[10:35] <llp78> govert: sure is... ask away
[10:35] <Jack3> im just using an ftp client
[10:35] <govert> oki
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> govert: sure is.. just ask
[10:35] <Tired_> nosrednaekim: That won't break my monitor, since it's not the value the manuf specified?
[10:35] <llp78> Jack3 an ftp client to connect to a server right -
[10:35] <HaSH> Jack3, nothing would be blocking outgoing port 21
[10:35] <Jack3> oh
[10:35] <Jack3> hmmmmm
[10:35] <darkrift> heh
[10:35] <Jack3> ive triedlike 7clients
[10:35] <govert> problem: konqueror reports "could not connect to host"
[10:35] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: no... its an LCD.. you can't break them.
[10:35] <HaSH> Jack3, not unless ya installed a firewall
[10:35] <darkrift> its odd having leaves falling all over my desktop
[10:35] <Jack3> and i dont think so
[10:35] <HaSH> Jack3, i like gftp
[10:36] <Jack3> ill try it but i duno
[10:36] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: the idea is that it finds a value it likes out of that range
[10:36] <darkrift> be cool if they fell behind the icons though
[10:36] <HaSH> for a gui ftp client
[10:36] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Are you using IRC on the same computer running linux? (IE, the internet works but Konqueror doesn't?)
[10:36] <govert> anyone mhas any idea whet could be wrong?
[10:36] <Tired_> How is it that it allows 1024x768, when I told it in xorg.conf that the only permissible res was 1680x1050?
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: it falls back on other res's anyway..
[10:37] <govert> WebAppMonkey. that is correct
[10:37] <Tired_> Oh.  Ok, brb after I try that
[10:37] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Press alt+f2 and type konsole, run it
[10:37] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: ok.
[10:37] <govert> if it helps, i just unbstalled my smartlink dial-up modem
[10:38] <govert> done
[10:38] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Now type `ping www.google.com`
[10:38] <govert> i can ping
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> govert: sounds like a DNS problem.
[10:38] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Hmm
[10:38] <govert> i can also do sudo apt-get update
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> or not..
[10:38] <llp78> no dns issue if he can ping google
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. didn't see that.
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> I had konqueror do that to me once...
[10:39] <nosrednaekim> govert: try installing firefox.
[10:39] <govert> i agree, but all other applications seem to be able to look up the url's
[10:39] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Are you using Knetworkmanager? It'll be on the bottom of your screen, a little icon showing networks
[10:39] <govert> fyi, ppp0 does NOT shot up in the network dettings
[10:39] <Tired_> No joy  :(
[10:39] <govert> i will install firefox after i have updated
[10:40] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: hmmm... did you search google yet?
[10:40] <llp78> in konqueror settings - proxy - is it set to connect to the net directly ?
[10:40] <Tired_> What would I be looking for?  I've never done this before...
[10:41] <govert> hmm. it does not want to start
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> Tired_:  you just search for your monitors model name and then linux, etc
[10:42] <llp78> govert: your not connecting via a proxy are you?
[10:42] <govert> maybe i didn't install my modem the correct way...
[10:42] <Tired_> Oh, yeah, I did search that.  Got over ten pages of reviews.
[10:42] <llp78> in konqueror settings
[10:42] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: lol...
[10:42] <govert> don't think so. it's bell dial-up
[10:43] <llp78> seems as though your connection is working fine its just konqueror giving you troubles
[10:43] <govert> brb
[10:43] <Tired_> Is it possible the limitation is in my video card?  It's only a GeForce FX 5200...
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> llp78: I had that happen to me once in a Beta of fiesty.
[10:43] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Well, my clock just corrected itself without a separate NTP daemon running
[10:44] <llp78> nosrednaekim: did firefox work in your situation ?
[10:44] <govert> ] back
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> AmyRose: thought so... see.. I think the daemon is actually the NTP server.
[10:45] <nosrednaekim> llp78: yes. I think it did.
[10:45] <AmyRose> nosrednaekim: Actually no.
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: searching some linux forums..
[10:47] <Tired_> :/  I can't find anything relevant, Googling "Monitor-name" + Linux, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xorg, or xorg.conf
[10:47] <Tired_> :)  Thanks a lot for your help
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: yeah... did you try the Nvidia set-up utilities?
[10:49] <Tired_> ... I don't know what that is
[10:49] <Tired_> I set it up with nano
[10:50] <ardchoille> Tired_: kdesu nvidia-settings
[10:50] <Tired_> Oh!
[10:50] <Tired_> Oh.
[10:51] <Tired_> That gives me up to 1280x960...still not the native res
[10:52] <ardchoille> Tired_: Did you config xorg using: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[10:52] <ardchoille> And then restart X ?
[10:52] <Tired_> Yes, a few times, always restarting X afterwards
[10:52] <ardchoille> !fixres
[10:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:52] <Tired_> Tried that link first off
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: sure your graphics card can handle that res?
[10:53] <Tired_> No, I'm not.  It's a GefORCE fx 5200
[10:53] <Tired_> 128MB
[10:54] <Tired_> using dvi
[10:54] <Tired_> On my old CRT, it did 1600x1200, but that was over VGA
[10:54] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: if it has DVi then I suppose it can handle it.
[10:56] <Tired_> Well, this kinda sucks.  A $300 monitor can't be made to do a better res than my old $100 CRT
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: 1280X960 is at least widescreen...
[10:56] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: yeah.
[10:57] <Tired_> But Windows has no trouble with it
[10:57] <zipper|> ? hlep
[10:57] <zipper|> ? help
[10:58] <zipper|> ?commands
[10:58] <zipper|> hmm?
[10:58] <Tired_> !help
[10:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:58] <zipper|> ah, thanks
[10:58] <Tired_> ;)
[10:59] <Tired_> Oh well.  I have to re-install the OS anyways today, cuz I'm changing hard drives and CPUs.  Guess I'll have to go back to windows  :(
[10:59] <Tired_> Thanks anyways
[10:59] <darkrift> lol
[11:00] <govert> i'm back
[11:00] <govert> i have a problem. konqueror cannot connect to the web, but both apt-get and irc works.
[11:00] <zipper|> Anyone knows whether cedega or wine is better at running world of warcraft?
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> Tired_: your welcome.... for nothing...
[11:00] <govert> knetworkmanager does not find my ppp0 dial-up connection
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> I didn't do anything
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> govert: ok.. did you get firefox?
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> cedega is always better from what I hear
[11:01] <govert> nope :-) we had a thunderstorm that turned off the power
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> govert: but you can talk to us anyway.. right?
[11:01] <govert> right
[11:01] <zipper|> !linux-effects
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-effects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> govert: oh I hate that.
[11:02] <govert> installing firefox will take about 40 minutes with my bandwidth :-(
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> govert: are you getting firefox?
[11:02] <nosrednaekim> govert: haha... true
[11:02] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Ok, lets make sure your proxy is set right on Konqueror. Do you have a proxy?
[11:02] <Jabapyth> I am running kubuntu, but I installed gnome-office and restarted, and now I have the gnome desktop! how do I get kde back?
[11:03] <govert> yep. eta 34 mins
[11:03] <llp78> zipper|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[11:03] <govert> don't think i have a proxy
[11:03] <zipper|> llp78: cheers
[11:03] <govert> firafox runs without any proxy configurations on windows, same dialup connection
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> govert: get dillo... that'll be enough to check.
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: so it pops up with GDM?
[11:03] <WebAppMonkey> govert: Setting -> Configure Konqueror || Look on the left and scroll down to Proxy || Select Connect to the Internet Directly and press Apply
[11:04] <Jabapyth> ya
[11:04] <govert> k. dillo it is...
[11:04] <govert> couldnt find package dillo
[11:04] <govert> <- repos?
[11:04] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[11:05] <Jabapyth> thanks!
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> and select kdm
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> govert: hmm.... try lynx.
[11:05] <zipper|> oh oh, btw... Feisty is stable now right?
[11:05] <zipper|> or well, released
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> govert: command line based... but it'll tell tell us enough
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: when you get back into KDM.. you WILL have to select KDE as your default sessiona again.
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> zipper|: hehe.. yeah it is
[11:06] <govert> WebApp...: thanks but does not help
[11:06] <mzanfardino> zipper|: I run WoW via wine and it's working quite nicely.
[11:06] <zipper|> nosrednaekim: ah okay
[11:06] <excitatory> has anyone else been dealing with random hard freezes / lock ups  .. usually when left idle for more than 15 minutes or more?
[11:07] <zipper|> mzanfardino: tried comparing performance with windows? (to give me a rough idea of what to expect)
[11:07] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: then do I restart?
[11:07] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: how do I select iot
[11:07] <govert> lynx ets 2 mins
[11:07] <govert> (eta)
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> govert: did you try getting lynx?
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> govert: or if it doesn't have that."links"
[11:07] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: ctrl+alt+ bkspace will so it.
[11:08] <nosrednaekim> govert: ok.
[11:08] <mzanfardino> zipper|: I have windows xp and kubuntu on the same hardware.  when I run WoW under windows the performance is somewhat better than under linux and wow, but not so much so that I play under windows.  I still prefer linux, so I put up with the minor performance hit.
[11:08] <mzanfardino> s/wow/sine
[11:08] <mzanfardino> s/sine/wine
[11:09] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: i just did ctrl-alt-backspace, logged in, and Im stin in GDM
[11:09] <weedar> My laptop-monitor just died :(
[11:09] <seniortaco> hay anyone know how to setup ubuntu for dual screens?
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: wait... when you hit that was the login screen grown or blue?
[11:09] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: blue.. but its been blue the whole time
[11:09] <nosrednaekim> weedar: died? did you just mess around with your xorg settings?
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: oh..lol
[11:10] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: what?
[11:10] <nosrednaekim> GDM and KDM are the login managers. I thought you were having problems with them
[11:10] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: no...its the desktop
[11:10] <weedar> nosrednaekim: no, I was just surfing the web and it went black. Tried rebooting, but still nothing, I've connected my LCD to the laptop atm
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> ok.. when you go into the login screen, click on the sessions button and select KDE
[11:11] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: ok
[11:11] <zipper-> !help
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[11:11] <nosrednaekim> weedar: does the monitor display stuuf during boot?
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> or in the BIOS?
[11:12] <weedar> nosrednaekim: nothing, ever. My only hope is that it might have set itself to only send video through the VGA-connector and that there is a way to switch it back to using the "internal" monitor
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> weedar: sounds like a hardware problem.
[11:13] <weedar> argh
[11:13] <nosrednaekim> weedar: yeah...
[11:14] <govert> another power surge...
[11:14] <weedar> nosrednaekim: I Might as well get a new laptop then..
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> weedar: try pulling that battery out for a couple minutes and then put it back in
[11:14] <Jabapyth> nosrednaekim: thank you so much!@ its back
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> govert: you're in like illinois? big storms..
[11:14] <nosrednaekim> Jabapyth: yep..NP
[11:14] <weedar> nosrednaekim: I'm willing to try it, but why would that work?
[11:14] <lars__> nabend
[11:14] <govert> canada, ontario, burl;ington. small storm :-)
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> weedar: BIOS can get messed up... IDK.. that fixed a problem I had with my touchpad
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> govert: ah..ok
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> its coming this way pretty fast
[11:16] <weedar> nosrednaekim: ok, thanks for the tip, it's worth a shot :)
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> weedar: yep..... now if you want suggestion for a new laptop...
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> a dell ubuntu one would be nice...
[11:17] <govert> i can confirm that lynx can connect to www.google.com
[11:17] <weedar> nosrednaekim: I've seen those :) I assume they're 100% compatible when it comes to hardware
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> weedar: but not wnough OOMPH for ya?
[11:17] <weedar> nosrednaekim: This one is a fujitsu and the wlan-card has built-in wpa-support which I think is pretty rare
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> govert: ok..so get firefox.
[11:17] <nosrednaekim> weedar: wow.. thats weird.
[11:17] <weedar> nosrednaekim: I mostly use my laptop to surf the web or use remote connection to my computer at work =)
[11:18] <govert> but ... i like konqueror... :-(
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> weedar: hey.. don't through the computer way..laptops make good servers.
[11:18] <govert> and i want knetworkmanager to recognize ppp0
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> *throw
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> govert: heh... I hate it... firefox is faster.
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> at least on dial up for me
[11:18] <weedar> nosrednaekim: actually a good idea, my desktop machines are so noisy I can't really use them as servers (no door to the bedroom, they're in the living room)
[11:19] <govert> well, actually, i agree, and this one is for my mother in-law. however. i WOULD like to find the problem, not just a workaround\
[11:19] <weedar> people are still on dialup?
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> weedar: yeah.. when cable costs 60 bucks a month.. you bet
[11:19] <govert> my mother in lw is...
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> weedar: yeah.
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> weedar: put a nice new 120GB drive in it for $100 and you got a great server
[11:20] <govert> so.. any idea why KDE doesn't find my slamr dial-up modem?
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> govert: it works tho... right?
[11:21] <govert> depends on what you mean with "it" :-)
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> govert: you can connect...
[11:22] <govert> knwtworkmanager doesn't see my ppp0 connection
[11:22] <govert> i can connect
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> govert: i'm not sure that KNM can even do dial up.. thought that was kppp's job
[11:23] <govert> i have a Smartmodem, installed according to the instructions from linmodems.com, probably NOT the proper KUBUNTU way...
[11:24] <govert> KNM?
[11:24] <jarn> What is the ~/.local/share/desktop-directories folder?
[11:24] <govert> oh.. knetworkmanager
[11:25] <nosrednaekim> knetworkmanager
[11:28] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to install Iceweasel with the i386 Debian package, but it says the dependancy libhunspell-1.1-0 is not satisfiable, although apt-get says I have this package. Any ideas?
[11:28] <seniortaco> reinstall perhapse
[11:29] <govert> nosred, any forther ideas?
[11:29] <Sanne> yurimxpxman: it can happen that Debian packages aren't binary compatible.
[11:30] <yurimxpxman> Sanne: thanks. I'm going to try the source code now :)
[11:30] <Sanne> yurimxpxman: that's a better way for sure :)
[11:33] <nosrednaekim> govert: for what?
[11:33] <govert> why KDE is unaware of my ppp0 connection
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> govert: does kppp see it?
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> govert: how are connecting?
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> *are you
[11:36] <govert> i connect with kppp, so that os OK
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> govert: yeah.. don't worry about knetworkmanager then.
[11:38] <govert> no i won't but i still worry about konqueror
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> are you DLing Firefox?
[11:39] <govert> yep eta 30 min
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> govert: hmm yeah...that is weird...might want to try asking on kubuntu-devel, or see if there is a bug open for that.
[11:40] <seniortaco> does cedega have conflicts with ubuntu? cause im trying to use it to install steam and nothing happens wen i try and mount cds or run the installers or anything
[11:40] <govert> i'll try kubuntu-devel. where do thay hang out?
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> #kubuntu-devel
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> but made sure you make it clear that you have a BUG not just a problem
[11:42] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to compile Iceweasel now, but it says "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required"
[11:43] <seniortaco> i guess ill try reinstalling then
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> seniortaco: noo.... don't.
[11:44] <nosrednaekim> seniortaco: do you have kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:44] <Sanne> yurimxpxman: seems like configure wants to have a option set. try "./configure --help" to see the available options.
[11:45] <nosrednaekim> govert: hehe see... I told you they were good.
[11:45] <Sanne> yurimxpxman: and read any readmes you may find in the source directory :)
[11:45] <seniortaco> i started with ubuntu and i just finished installing kde so i dont know lol
[11:45] <hikaricore> or the INSTALL file usually tells you what to do
[11:45] <hikaricore> if it exists
[11:46] <seniortaco> im currently running kde so id assume my question would go with kubuntu
[11:46] <BluesKaj> iceweasel ...FF with a conscience ?
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: some say clones don't have conciences.
[11:47] <hikaricore> starwars proves that
[11:47] <hikaricore> :P
[11:47] <seniortaco> lol
[11:47] <BluesKaj> something to do with non free plugins ...bah !
[11:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: no.. even sillier.. the Firefox ICON isn't GPLed.
[11:48] <hikaricore> didn't that all start with them reaming debian about it?
[11:49] <Sanne> well, both sides have a right of their opinion, and both sides mean well, they just differ in priorities. I don't think anything was silly.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> I'm not well versed on the Open Source community and licensing of non commercial apps and utilties , so i just go on my merry way in ignorance of the nuances involved
[11:51] <Sanne> BluesKaj: heh :) here's a nice view of our sabdfl on this issue, if you're interested: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/79
[11:51] <govert> nosred. problem solved: need to quit knetworkmanager, since it tells parts of KDE that there is no connection
[11:51] <BluesKaj> in other words as long as it works......
[11:51] <keith> Where can I get the most recent Python-ldap files for Fiesty and installable with Adept
[11:52] <Sanne> keith: there's a package python-ldap, might be what you need?
[11:53] <keith> test
[11:54] <keith> I am trying to authenticate with active directory for a program call Plone using Zope
[11:54] <zipper> !help
[11:54] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:55] <seniortaco> lol
[12:03] <WillJitsu> I have WinXP installed on a 250GB HD.  I want to dual-boot XP and kubuntu.  What software should I use to create a partition for kubuntu and what steps should I follow to make sure they dual-boot together properly?
[12:06] <zipper> WillJitsu: well, you could use partition magic for windows.
[12:07] <zipper> WillJitsu: that way you wouldn't loose the data you have on your existing partitions. If its a fresh HDD, then the ubuntu/kubuntu installer has a partitioning tool
[12:07] <hikaricore> what's wrong with gparted?
[12:07] <seniortaco> anyone know anything about cedega?
[12:07] <Buy-Bye> gparted is Great!
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> seniortaco: yeah. Some people like it but personally I could never get anything to run properly.
[12:08] <hikaricore> i know just that someone is suggesting that they use partition magic..
[12:08] <hikaricore> lol
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> my Cedega
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> subscription just ran out
[12:08] <hikaricore> screw cedega
[12:08] <hikaricore> :P
[12:08] <seniortaco> k heres my next question
[12:08] <seniortaco> anyone know anything better then cedega
[12:08] <seniortaco> lol
[12:08] <acemo> wine
[12:09] <seniortaco> i thought wine was a precursor to cedega
[12:09] <hikaricore> if you need to access and install applications easier in wine there's a new tool called winedoors
[12:09] <seniortaco> :o
[12:09] <hikaricore> cedega is a hackfilled @#$@%@ stepchild of wine/winex
[12:09] <Buy-Bye> I read a review in Linux Format that rated Wine and Cedega about equal - so why pay!
[12:09] <seniortaco> well for anyone that knows cedega ... how do u get it to run .msi files cause all the installers are .msi files and it says it cant open
[12:10] <acemo> seniortaco: wine and cedega seperated.. wine beats cedega on all games i tried so far
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> seniortaco: cedega supposedly concentrates on direct3d/directsnd whereas wine tries to cover the entire windows API
[12:10] <seniortaco> ibet
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> win's about as good though, in my experience
[12:10] <hikaricore> I found an msi extractor that ran under wine once, that might be a place to start.
[12:10] <seniortaco> well then wine it is
[12:10] <seniortaco> lol
[12:10] <hikaricore> can't remember where/what it was for the life of me
[12:10] <seniortaco> all though id rather have a beer :D
[12:11] <hikaricore> I think there might also be a command line tool for extracting msi
[12:11] <xst> After installing feisty, ssh has become incredibly slow to connect to IPs on the LAN. It takes forever before I get prompted for a password. Any ideas to a solution?
[12:11] <hikaricore> like the one that exists for cabs
[12:11] <acemo> wine is doing alot on the direct3d lately too
[12:11] <zipper> zzz.... upgrading to feisty
[12:11] <zipper> need better internet connection