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| mikkael | on kubuntu, is that a new default font or is this just another hinting method ? | 12:44 |
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| SlimG | mikkael: you sure it's different? to me it only look smaller | 12:51 |
| mikkael | whats the font called ? | 12:52 |
| mikkael | im not sure at all, i only saw a screenshot, im on a upgraded machine, where the mlind subixel rendering got lost now and everything is ugly :) | 12:53 |
| SlimG | dunno, didn't look for it, just tested the live disk | 12:54 |
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| khermans__ | hello!\ | 03:06 |
| khermans__ | is Tribe CD 1 ready and is it a good build? | 03:06 |
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| Howdy125 | khermans__, the topic say's it's released .. | 03:30 |
| khermans__ | Howdy125, yes i was asking if it was good from people's experience -- and what time it was built | 03:31 |
| Howdy125 | khermans__, I upgraded to it from feisty on one machine and installed it from a cd on another machine .. seems to be working well for me. | 03:32 |
| khermans__ | Howdy125, thats exactly what i wanted to hear! | 03:33 |
| khermans__ | Howdy125, amd64 by any chance? | 03:33 |
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| Howdy125 | khermans__, I don't have an amd64 .. sorry | 03:33 |
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| DanaG | Argh, the "Interaggregate" xscreensaver just made xorg completely lock up. | 04:28 |
| DanaG | I had to sysrq-k it. | 04:28 |
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| DanaG | ...and again, when I went to xscreensaver-demo to unset that one. | 04:31 |
| snerfu_1 | my ipw2200 seems to be getting substantially better signal strength. | 04:33 |
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| DanaG | (process:26213): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper program instead. | 04:47 |
| DanaG | well, WTF process IS that? If it crashes after giving that message, there's no way to know. | 04:47 |
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| DanaG | Oh, and this time the Celtic xscreensaver killed Xorg. | 04:49 |
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| Peaker | It seems that some time recently, /dev/pty* or some of them have become owned by the dialout group instead of tty group, which does not seem to make a lot of sense | 04:58 |
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| RAOF | DanaG: I think that's some part of the X login spitting that out. | 05:04 |
| ToHellWithGA | dudes, i have a file | 05:06 |
| ToHellWithGA | this file is amazing | 05:06 |
| ToHellWithGA | it describes several aspects of my machine all relating to the networking card which is not assigned an interface | 05:07 |
| ToHellWithGA | http://thestonepedo.dyndns.org/files/rt2500_gutsy_2.6.22-6-generic.txt | 05:07 |
| ToHellWithGA | could one of yall help me figure out where to file that bug report? | 05:08 |
| RAOF | linux-source | 05:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | i don't know if it is kernel-related or part of some other networking extension | 05:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | bug linux-source | 05:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | !bug linux-source | 05:08 |
| BHSPitMonkey | is there a way to install ubuntu to another partition -while in- ubuntu? | 05:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | bug 1 | 05:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | 05:09 |
| ToHellWithGA | there's a link :) | 05:09 |
| ToHellWithGA | BHSPitMonkey: that'd require some tricky bootloading | 05:09 |
| RAOF | If you don't get a eth?/ra?/wlan? entry, that's a kernel problem. | 05:09 |
| ToHellWithGA | RAOF: that is the symptom indeed | 05:09 |
| ToHellWithGA | no ra0 | 05:09 |
| RAOF | BHSPitMonkey: I suppose you could. Just install Ubuquity and run it :) | 05:09 |
| RAOF | BHSPitMonkey: Not sure if that'd work, but it might :) | 05:09 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | ToHellWithGA, well, I'm just slightly opposed to burning a CD, rebooting, installing, etc | 05:12 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | RAOF, that would run into mounting issues perhaps | 05:12 |
| BHSPitMonkey | I guess I could unmount every extraneous partition I've mounted already | 05:13 |
| BHSPitMonkey | RAOF, trouble is, I'm really referring to installing ubuntu+1 on another partition, from ubuntu+0 | 05:13 |
| DanaG | Argh, cannot talk to klauncher. | 05:43 |
| DanaG | But klauncher doesn't let you run it manually. | 05:43 |
| DanaG | oh, and there's a naming collision between kernel and kde. | 05:44 |
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| cables | whatever, that's why I run in a VM :) | 05:55 |
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| DanaG | WTF? When my SSH session times out, the client blocks. | 06:14 |
| DanaG | It should really TIME OUT, not block my terminal. | 06:14 |
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| Hobbsee | DanaG: that's...impressive | 06:17 |
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| DanaG | Impressive? How? | 06:19 |
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| Hobbsee | that it doesnt just time out | 06:23 |
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| DanaG | http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20070606VL207.html | 06:41 |
| DanaG | Odd feature on my laptop: | 06:43 |
| DanaG | FN-Super/Win == Ctrl-Alt-Del. | 06:43 |
| DanaG | by Super/Win, I mean Super is Win. Heh, sounds like Engrish. | 06:44 |
| RAOF | Super FTW | 06:44 |
| DanaG | 06:45 | |
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| DanaG | Perfect for saying "I need a <favorite caffeinated beverage>". | 06:47 |
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| DanaG | Did anybody a while ago ask about 17" notebook with Intel graphics? Oddly, HP has one on their new 802.11N-equipped laptops. | 06:59 |
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| jkimball4 | So, is compiz still not functional in Tribe 1? | 07:17 |
| crimsun | that's a heck of a contextless question to ask, since it appears to work on my hardware. I obviously have no clue what hardware you're using to stake that claim. | 07:18 |
| jkimball4 | I've been running gutsy since feisty came out and compiz has had held-back packages ever since. | 07:18 |
| RAOF | It shouldn't. | 07:18 |
| crimsun | compiz,compiz-core,compiz-gnome,compiz-plugins | 07:18 |
| jkimball4 | Interesting. Let me try some shit then. | 07:18 |
| crimsun | I'm currently at a post-Tribe1 snap (1:0.5.0+git20070605-0ubuntu1) | 07:19 |
| crdlb | !ohmy | jkimball4 | 07:19 |
| ubotu | jkimball4: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. | 07:19 |
| jkimball4 | Oops, Pardon me. | 07:19 |
| jkimball4 | Ah, I think I see the issue. Those packages were heldback because they'd break compiz-extra which isn't at 0.5 like the rest | 07:23 |
| jkimball4 | That's a bummer. I really like the extra stuff. | 07:24 |
| RAOF | You shouldn't have to wait too long until the *new* extra stuff is uploaded to Universe. | 07:24 |
| DanaG | http://www.bash.org/?769132 | 07:30 |
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| PirateHead | Is Gutsy going to be released on UMPC machines? Have people started hardware testing? Is there a wiki page? | 07:43 |
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| Hobbsee | UMPC machines? | 07:44 |
| DanaG | Ultra-Mobile PC | 07:44 |
| crimsun | as opposed to "in no way mobile. At all. With a bomb" machines | 07:45 |
| Hobbsee | dunno. depends which arch it actually runs on, i guess | 07:45 |
| PirateHead | I read press releases about Ubuntu Mobile or whatever. | 07:45 |
| crimsun | I suspect you'd want to read the mobile specs. | 07:46 |
| PirateHead | But I don't know what it means, hardware wise. | 07:46 |
| crimsun | there's an IRC channel for that; join up and ask them during USA business hours. | 07:46 |
| crimsun | mountain/pacific time. | 07:46 |
| PirateHead | #ubuntu-mobile ? Just a guess. | 07:46 |
| PirateHead | I noticed that there were people in there, but not too many. | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | anyone else's openoffice fonts utterly and totally stuffed? | 07:54 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: they seem ok on Tribe1 and current gutsy | 07:55 |
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| Hobbsee | crimsun: i'm getting http://wedontsleep.org/~sarah/snapshot8.png | 07:55 |
| crimsun | (yes, saw in -devel) | 07:55 |
| DanaG | Openoffice has ALWAYS had sucky fonts for me. | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 07:55 |
| DanaG | The rest of Gnome and KDE have WONDERFUL fonts. | 07:55 |
| DanaG | Oh, I see the brokenness there. | 07:56 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: kubuntu tribe1? | 07:56 |
| crimsun | I can pull an image and test | 07:56 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: i havent downloaded tribe 1 - this is a dist-upgraded machine | 07:56 |
| Hobbsee | and i havent restarted X after teh updates, but that shouldnt matter | 07:57 |
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| crimsun | ludicrous speed. | 08:01 |
| crimsun | 01:59:55 (6.45 MB/s) - `gutsy-desktop-i386.iso' saved [693219328/693219328] | 08:01 |
| crimsun | now why can't I get that on my 33.6? | 08:01 |
| RAOF | :P | 08:01 |
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| DanaG | And a measly 300 when at home on Charter. | 08:03 |
| crimsun | this is from cdimage.uc to uni | 08:06 |
| === DanaG wishes ubotu had a google script. | ||
| DanaG | !google 7000 kilobytes in megabytes | 08:07 |
| crimsun | /8 | 08:07 |
| DanaG | er, 1024. not bits. | 08:07 |
| crimsun | no, that's for me, not you | 08:07 |
| DanaG | Aah. | 08:08 |
| crimsun | I just used the wrong window because my mouse slid over | 08:08 |
| DanaG | Oh, focus on hover. | 08:08 |
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| DanaG | p libnet-google-perl - Simple OOP-ish interface to the Google SOA | 08:09 |
| DanaG | methinks that package is now useless. | 08:09 |
| RAOF | Aww, why has my Sid VM suddenly died? | 08:10 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: tried regenerating the font cache? `sudo fc-cache -f -v` | 08:11 |
| crimsun | can't reproduce it on Ubuntu Tribe1 or current gutsy | 08:11 |
| crimsun | waiting for Kubuntu Tribe1 | 08:11 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: have now, doesnt fix it | 08:13 |
| Hobbsee | using OpenSymbol fonts | 08:13 |
| === Hobbsee --> afk for a bit | ||
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| Starks | hi | 08:54 |
| Starks | can someone help me install gutsy on my spare laptop? it's an inspiron 640m/e1405 that won't let X start when installing ubuntu. | 08:55 |
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| Steil | does anyone know what package pidgin needs for ssl for msn/ | 09:00 |
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| varka | Steil: gnutls i think | 09:05 |
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| varka | Steil: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/FAQssl | 09:15 |
| Starks | can someone help me install gutsy on my spare laptop? it's an inspiron 640m/e1405 that won't let X start when installing ubuntu. | 09:17 |
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| coNP | Starks: you mean by Ubuntu Feisty or older now? | 09:18 |
| Starks | from scratch | 09:19 |
| ToHellWithGA | so stuff broke just a little too much for me. is anything backported from alpha releases, or would i have to wait until october to get a backport of rtorrent? | 09:19 |
| ToHellWithGA | i couldn't make gutsy reinstall and/or dist-upgrade cleanly after a couple of tries | 09:20 |
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| afflux | my gnome-panel crashes sometimes just without any error message or bug report. I can't really see a pattern for that. When it restarts, some applications like X-Chat or QuodLibet don't show up in the notification area | 09:30 |
| afflux | Where can I find any usefull information on what happens? | 09:31 |
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| DarkMageZ | afflux, if gnome-panel crashed. there is a chance that there is a crash report in /var/crash | 09:42 |
| afflux | oh, yes. there is one. | 09:43 |
| afflux | thank you | 09:43 |
| jkimball4 | When I connect to a VPN with network-manager-openvpn, nm overwrites the entries in /etc/resolv.conf causing no dns resolution to not work. Anyone have a fix? | 09:46 |
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| rasher | Hello, I'm having trouble pairing my phone to my laptop. I installed bluez-gnome and set my computer to be "visible and connectable", yet it doesn't show up when I search for devices on my phone (Nokia 5300). The output of hciconfig -a is here: http://pastebin.ca/549925 . I can scan with hcitool and find my phone, but don't know how to properly connect to it like that. | 10:26 |
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| r00tintheb0x | rasher, are the modules loaded for the BT adapter? | 10:31 |
| rasher | r00tintheb0x, certainly. Otherwise hciconfig wouldn't list it as up and running anyway | 10:32 |
| r00tintheb0x | aah | 10:33 |
| r00tintheb0x | can you pair the devices manually? | 10:33 |
| rasher | As far as I can tell, the system firmly believes it should be discoverable already, but my phone's just not seeing anything. Unless I'm missing something. | 10:33 |
| rasher | r00tintheb0x, I don't know, how would I go about doing that? | 10:33 |
| r00tintheb0x | rasher, i have minimal experience w/bt & lin. | 10:33 |
| r00tintheb0x | im just stabbing @ it | 10:34 |
| rasher | Okay, well as I said I can run a scan, that finds my phone, so it's working at some level at least | 10:34 |
| rasher | so I might be able to manually pair the two, only I don't know how | 10:34 |
| r00tintheb0x | i see. | 10:35 |
| r00tintheb0x | so your phone cant see the BT adapter on your computer? | 10:35 |
| rasher | Exactly | 10:35 |
| r00tintheb0x | okay, what on Linux are you using to configure the adapter? | 10:35 |
| r00tintheb0x | .conf files? | 10:35 |
| rasher | All I can say about the adapter is that it works in Windows. And I have no other bluetooth devices than these two | 10:36 |
| rasher | I used bluez-gnome's little applet, which seems to be setting up the adapter correctly. | 10:36 |
| rasher | at least the changes are applied. Whether they're correct, I don't really know | 10:36 |
| rasher | I haven't modified anything in /etc/bluetooth/ - I'm not sure what it should be. The applet seems to be setting things on the fly, which I assume *should* be "correct" settings | 10:38 |
| r00tintheb0x | rasher, try running bluez-gnome with a -d flag or something so you can see exactaly what its doing | 10:38 |
| r00tintheb0x | and look for a "unhidden" mode inside bluez too | 10:38 |
| rasher | if you look at the output on pastebin I think the following line means that it ought to be visible: UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN | 10:40 |
| rasher | Doesn't look like the bluetooth-applet has any commanline parameters | 10:40 |
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| rasher | Interesting.. if I run hcitool cc 00:18:C5:88:FC:0A the laptop shows up on the phone as an active connection for a split-second | 10:45 |
| r00tintheb0x | rasher, maybe because hcitool is initalizing it? | 10:47 |
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| rasher | r00tintheb0x, that's my guessing. The phone rejects the connection because it's improper in some way. But why.. | 10:49 |
| r00tintheb0x | hmm | 10:50 |
| r00tintheb0x | rasher, whats the name of the tool? | 10:51 |
| r00tintheb0x | bluez? | 10:51 |
| r00tintheb0x | what? | 10:51 |
| mikkael | whats kubuntu's default font and size on gutsy , please someone | 10:52 |
| rasher | r00tintheb0x, There are a number of utils. The deamon is hcid. The scanning tool is hcitool. The setup (console) tool for the adapter is hciconfig. The gnome parts are bluetooth-applet and bluetooth-properties. | 10:52 |
| rasher | r00tintheb0x, I will now attempt to run the daemon directly so I can see any output | 10:53 |
| r00tintheb0x | okay | 10:53 |
| rasher | It's not outputting a lot. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what hcid does. | 10:55 |
| rasher | Maybe it's a problem that the two devices are already paired (under windows) | 10:56 |
| Starks | can someone help me install gutsy on my spare laptop? it's an inspiron 640m/e1405 that won't let X start when installing ubuntu. | 10:56 |
| Starks | from scratch | 10:57 |
| r00tintheb0x | hmm | 11:01 |
| r00tintheb0x | ive never seen gutsy | 11:01 |
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| rasher | Hrm, it's giving me no luck. Think I'll take this to the bluez mailing list instead. | 11:06 |
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| robg | can someone help a ubuntu newbie with install? | 05:02 |
| coNP | robg: are you installing gutsy? | 05:02 |
| robg | just downloaded 7.01 | 05:03 |
| robg | excuse me, 7.04 | 05:03 |
| theholyduck | robg, #ubuntu is That way | 05:03 |
| theholyduck | :P | 05:03 |
| coNP | robg: okay, than please forward to #ubuntu | 05:03 |
| theholyduck | this is for 7.10 | 05:03 |
| robg | is that better? | 05:03 |
| theholyduck | its in alpha | 05:03 |
| coNP | robg: no it is under development | 05:03 |
| Pici | robg: its not stable. | 05:04 |
| robg | neither is 7.04 | 05:04 |
| robg | hehehe | 05:04 |
| Pici | robg: nor is it released. | 05:04 |
| theholyduck | robg, 7.04 is | 05:04 |
| theholyduck | now | 05:04 |
| Peaker | what determines what user/group permissions /dev/* files will have? | 05:04 |
| coNP | robg: it will be released in October, if everything foes fine | 05:04 |
| theholyduck | since april or | 05:04 |
| theholyduck | s | 05:04 |
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| robg | ok, thanks, I'll try #ubuntu again | 05:04 |
| theholyduck | ;) | 05:04 |
| coNP | robg: good luck :) | 05:04 |
| theholyduck | actualy im still running herd4 | 05:05 |
| theholyduck | :P | 05:05 |
| theholyduck | on this lappy | 05:05 |
| theholyduck | i havent bothered upgrading like 400 packages | 05:05 |
| ToHellWithGA | if i want to backport a package, what do i have to do? | 05:05 |
| ToHellWithGA | would i need to build the gutsy package on the feisty toolchain? | 05:05 |
| coNP | I guess you have to compile it on the target system | 05:05 |
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| coNP | and maybe nothing if everything is fine | 05:05 |
| ToHellWithGA | i reckon some little things, like version dependencies, matter | 05:06 |
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| ToHellWithGA | the new version depends on the current gutsy libstdc++ | 05:06 |
| coNP | then I guess you have to backport libstdc++ first | 05:06 |
| ToHellWithGA | maybe i could just edit the source and make it depend on the most current feisty things | 05:06 |
| theholyduck | i was thinking.. if i changed feisty in the sources.list file to gusty and did a update then dist upgrade | 05:07 |
| coNP | sure | 05:07 |
| theholyduck | would that work? | 05:07 |
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| ToHellWithGA | theholyduck: i can only find out by trying, eh? | 05:07 |
| coNP | theholyduck: it might work | 05:07 |
| theholyduck | yeh | 05:07 |
| coNP | I did that | 05:07 |
| theholyduck | well i was going to try | 05:07 |
| Peaker | that's what you do to upgrade to gutsy in general, no? | 05:07 |
| theholyduck | i did try to instal by cd | 05:08 |
| theholyduck | didnt work | 05:08 |
| theholyduck | at all | 05:08 |
| Peaker | so, i found a bug in /dev's permissions in gutsy - but I don't know what package/who is responsible. :P | 05:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | browsing the pool to get that source though... oy vey | 05:08 |
| theholyduck | like.. it crashed on all my 3 attempts | 05:08 |
| theholyduck | :P | 05:08 |
| Peaker | ToHellWithGA: apt-get source? | 05:08 |
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| ToHellWithGA | Peaker: i have to turn on those repos though | 05:08 |
| ToHellWithGA | i'm currently running feisty b/c gutsy went more unstable than i could handle for me | 05:09 |
| ToHellWithGA | but i'd like to pull a couple of the packages | 05:09 |
| theholyduck | i know what.. im gonna upgrade to feisty stable.. then create a chroot with feisty and upgrade that to gibsy | 05:09 |
| theholyduck | then try to boot into that | 05:09 |
| theholyduck | :P | 05:09 |
| theholyduck | i just need to resize my root partition and create a new partition | 05:10 |
| coNP | theholyduck: actually you should create a gutsy chroot in a feisty chroot in an edgy chroot on a dapper system :) | 05:10 |
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| theholyduck | :P | 05:10 |
| theholyduck | or.. i could just go and unpack my stationary and install on a free partition on that | 05:10 |
| theholyduck | this laptop sucks anyway | 05:11 |
| theholyduck | go 1.4ghz celeron and 256 mb ram | 05:11 |
| Peaker | I know a guy who replaced his Redhat install with a Debian install by installing Debian in a chroot jail, and then migrating its files to overwrite the root files | 05:11 |
| theholyduck | with full gnome.. yay | 05:12 |
| theholyduck | i really ought to install debian on this | 05:12 |
| coNP | it is not as hard as it seems | 05:12 |
| theholyduck | the ubuntu debian. default is tooo bloated | 05:12 |
| theholyduck | hm | 05:12 |
| theholyduck | wtf | 05:12 |
| theholyduck | ubuntu gnome | 05:12 |
| theholyduck | :P | 05:12 |
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| ToHellWithGA | theholyduck: i got that vibe too | 05:13 |
| theholyduck | that the default ubuntu gnome is too bloated | 05:13 |
| theholyduck | ? | 05:13 |
| ToHellWithGA | but it was difficult maintaining a very large list of packages to keep up to date rather than just accepting the small failures of the ubuntu-desktop metapackage | 05:13 |
| theholyduck | you know.. if i had alot of time.. id create myself a ubuntu-desktop-nonbloat metapackage | 05:14 |
| ToHellWithGA | the default ubuntu gnome has a bunch of stuff i will never use. gnome-desktop-environment has so little that one must add many little packages | 05:14 |
| ToHellWithGA | theholyduck: you could do ubuntu-minimal and gnome-desktop-environment | 05:14 |
| gnomefreak | guys can you take this topic to #ubuntu-offtopic please | 05:15 |
| ToHellWithGA | iirc that was a fairly small footprint | 05:15 |
| ToHellWithGA | gnomefreak: how can i c/o source for a gutsy package while in feisty? | 05:15 |
| gnomefreak | c/o? | 05:15 |
| Toma- | "ubuntu-basic" would be nice | 05:15 |
| ToHellWithGA | check out | 05:15 |
| ToHellWithGA | my bad | 05:15 |
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| ToHellWithGA | i'd like to download the source to the gutsy rtorrent and see if it can be built using the feisty toolchain | 05:16 |
| ToHellWithGA | for a backport | 05:16 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: you can as long as you are not running it ;) | 05:16 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: should beable to | 05:16 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: dont run it until build for feisty | 05:16 |
| theholyduck | ToHellWithGA, is there really something stoping you from doing a apt-get build-dep rtorrent and dling the official source? | 05:16 |
| ToHellWithGA | theholyduck: there is an existing gutsy package | 05:16 |
| theholyduck | but not in feisty+ | 05:16 |
| theholyduck | ? | 05:16 |
| ToHellWithGA | why should i build from source and not have the benefits of package management? | 05:17 |
| theholyduck | you know.. you can make a debian package very fast with checkinstall | 05:17 |
| ToHellWithGA | checkinstall doesn't help anyone else though | 05:17 |
| theholyduck | true dat | 05:17 |
| gnomefreak | dpkg-buildpackage is easy too :) | 05:17 |
| coNP | ToHellWithGA: why don't you compile the gutsy package on feisty? and install the package? | 05:17 |
| ToHellWithGA | that's exactly what i'd like to do, but i don't know how to find the gutsy source package while on feisty | 05:18 |
| gnomefreak | coNP: thats what he plans on doing | 05:18 |
| theholyduck | i got a flash pen with .deb's of all my custom builds that i use for ubuntu | 05:18 |
| theholyduck | :P | 05:18 |
| ToHellWithGA | should i just run a VM and use that to find the source .deb? | 05:18 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: packages.ubuntu.com | 05:18 |
| gnomefreak | grab the tar.gz the .diff.tar.gz and the .dsc | 05:18 |
| coNP | I would append the gutsy source repo and let apt-get do the dirty part for me :) | 05:18 |
| gnomefreak | unpack .dsc look in control to see what dpends need to be met for feisty and install them and build (maybe change the changelog as well | 05:19 |
| ToHellWithGA | gnomefreak: thanks man | 05:20 |
| gnomefreak | ywe | 05:20 |
| gnomefreak | yw | 05:20 |
| ToHellWithGA | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), cdbs, libtorrent-dev (>= 0.11.4), libsigc++-2. | 05:21 |
| ToHellWithGA | 0-dev, libcurl4-openssl-dev, libncurses5-dev, bc | 05:21 |
| ToHellWithGA | so i just need to find feisty analogues of those packages and make an effort to build it | 05:21 |
| gnomefreak | the ones without versiopn leave alone | 05:21 |
| ToHellWithGA | looks like libtorrent-dev is gonna be the big one | 05:21 |
| gnomefreak | install them but no need to change version. debhelper version is good | 05:21 |
| gnomefreak | hold on it should be good as well | 05:22 |
| ToHellWithGA | 0.10.4 is the feisty version | 05:22 |
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| gnomefreak | thats bad | 05:22 |
| gnomefreak | no its not | 05:22 |
| ToHellWithGA | so i guess i'll need to build libtorrent-dev then rtorrent | 05:22 |
| gnomefreak | libtorrent-dev: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table: | 05:22 |
| gnomefreak | its not in feisty by the looks of it | 05:23 |
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| gnomefreak | change it to libtorrent9-dev should work | 05:23 |
| ToHellWithGA | there are some changes of note | 05:23 |
| ToHellWithGA | inclusion of protocol encryption | 05:23 |
| ToHellWithGA | some major things | 05:24 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: than you will have to build it for feisty along with any depends and rdepends | 05:24 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: you may be looking at a week of building | 05:24 |
| ToHellWithGA | that's cool | 05:24 |
| ToHellWithGA | rdepends are depends of depends? | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | patches may fail as well so you might want to merge from debian | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: reverse depends | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | apt-cache rdepends package | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | apt-cache depends package | 05:25 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: some may not be needed but hard to say without looking too deep into it | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | ToHellWithGA: reverse depends | 05:26 |
| ToHellWithGA | you got me all excited about reverse depends | 05:26 |
| gnomefreak | ToHellWithGA: you may want to consult -motu on this | 05:26 |
| ToHellWithGA | the only ones listed are libtorrent/rtorrent things | 05:26 |
| ToHellWithGA | hi Hobbsee | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | hiya | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: does ubuntu have a gpg signing thing by default? | 05:26 |
| Hobbsee | like, seahorse or something? | 05:26 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: gnupg | 05:27 |
| gnomefreak | im sure another one or 2 | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | that's not an agent | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | gpg-agent? | 05:27 |
| gnomefreak | maybe looking through it now | 05:27 |
| Hobbsee | thanks | 05:28 |
| gnomefreak | i thought it did | 05:28 |
| gnomefreak | gnome-keyring-manager closest thing but not sure if that is agent | 05:28 |
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| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop (doesnt show one) | 05:30 |
| gnomefreak | iirc the docs for gpg tell you to install gpg-agent | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | right | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i should have a look at hte gpg-agent preinst, then | 05:30 |
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| greg_g | question for ya guys (Gusty Kubuntu related): if I added the kubuntu fiesty kde 3.5.7 repo, but I think that might be causing me problems, how can I down-grade the apps that were upgraded with that repo? | 07:25 |
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| Hobbsee | greg_g: remove the repo, and update, and dist-upgrade | 07:27 |
| Hobbsee | greg_g: should be OK, as hte packages are fairly close | 07:27 |
| greg_g | I was having problems with gtk apps not running in kde | 07:27 |
| greg_g | including firefox though | 07:28 |
| Hobbsee | feisty 3.5.7 repo wont help with that | 07:30 |
| Hobbsee | 3.5.7 is in gutsy by default. | 07:30 |
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| Rprp | hi, im on gutsy now, but how can i get the fonts of feisty? | 07:32 |
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| clyde | has anyone in this room installed gDesklets on 7.10? | 07:35 |
| clyde | :) | 07:36 |
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| Rprp | hi, im on gutsy now, but how can i get the fonts of feisty? | 07:45 |
| coNP | Rprp: what fonts? I guess the same packages are available as for feisty. | 07:48 |
| Rprp | coNP: Dunno, but the fonts are changed. :/ | 07:49 |
| coNP | oh, you mean the fonts that appear in the dialogs? | 07:49 |
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| hackeron | Hey, it says on ubuntudaily.com that Gusty Gibbon repositories are open? -- But I tried to change feisty to gusty in my sources.list but when I do an apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -- there are no new packages??? | 07:56 |
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| Hobbsee | hackeron: -ECANNOTSPELL | 07:57 |
| Rprp | hmm, the fonts are too small, like in Xchat and firefox, how can i get back to the fonts in feisty? :< (Sorry for my bad english anyway) | 07:57 |
| hackeron | Hobbsee: sorry? | 07:57 |
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| Hobbsee | hackeron: gusty doesnt exist. gutsy does. | 07:57 |
| Pici | hackeron: gutsy not gusty | 07:57 |
| hackeron | oh, lol, right | 07:57 |
| Hobbsee | Rprp: they keep changing them. you cna probably specifiy them in gconf or something | 07:58 |
| Hobbsee | hackeron: *grin* | 07:58 |
| Rprp | hmmm | 07:58 |
| hackeron | sweet, thanks :) | 07:59 |
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| hackeron | 30 minutes away from breaking my system, lol | 07:59 |
| Rprp | Hobbsee: gconf isnt a command, right? :P | 07:59 |
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| Rprp | hmm, the fonts are too small, like in Xchat and firefox, how can i get back to the fonts in feisty? :< (Sorry for my bad english anyway) | 08:03 |
| hackeron | hmm, when you search for gusty on google, it matches gutsy and doesn't show a spelling mistake or anything -- interesting. | 08:03 |
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| Starks | can someone help me install gutsy on my spare laptop? it's an inspiron 640m/e1405 that won't let X start when installing ubuntu from scratch? | 09:00 |
| Starks | i can't even get X to start for the LiveCD. | 09:01 |
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| ToHellWithGA | Starks: that's a bummer, man | 09:13 |
| ToHellWithGA | if it is any consolation, i couldn't get X to start at all from a working gutsy install | 09:13 |
| Starks | ... | 09:21 |
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| bipolar | Starks: what video card? | 10:30 |
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| khermans | there is a conflict between ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk -- are these issues to be noted to bug reported? | 11:53 |
| khermans | this is on amd64 | 11:53 |
| khermans | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24774/ | 11:53 |
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