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misfitLinux awesomeness 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Wed May 23 01:46:23 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux12:07
misfitcould the kernel be the problem?12:08
bdmurraymisfit: no it looks up to date.  did burning cds used to work?12:11
misfitI don't think so, but I can burn things just fine in XP, and I haven't configured the hardware recently.12:12
bdmurraymisfit: a bug report sounds in order then12:14
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misfithow do I make a bug report?12:15
bdmurrayhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/12:15
bdmurrayclick on report bug12:15
ubotuNew bug: #119212 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager crashed with IndexError in enable()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921212:16
ubotuNew bug: #119213 in gnome-panel (main) "Icons in GNOME Panel 2.18.1 change order" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921312:16
misfitthank you so much for your help guys, I truly appreciate it.12:16
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bdmurraysure you'll want to include 'sudo lspci -vvn', 'uname -a' and 'dmesg' after trying to burn as attachments to your bug rep. . .12:17
bdmurrayhmm, too slow12:17
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ubotuNew bug: #119214 in tailor (universe) "internal tailor API change for hg didn't make it to Ubuntu's version" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921412:20
ubotuNew bug: #119215 in totem (main) "No audio but it was present before." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921512:25
ubotuNew bug: #119216 in apt-dpkg-ref (universe) "dpkg will not install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921612:25
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movidoes this place also cover ubuntu-backports bugs ?12:31
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pochumovi: I don't think so, but you can file a bug at launchpad.net/<distro>-backports12:36
pochue.g. lp.net/feisty-backports12:36
bdmurraywhat do you mean movi?12:36
movii already did12:37
movihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/11918412:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119184 in feisty-backports "HAL : macbook-backlight is broken for Macbook C2D" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 12:38
movihere's the bug, and i just wanted to notify that its a low hanging fruit12:38
movii also added this one, and would liek to know how to tacle it : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/11918612:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119186 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Regression : linux-image-2.6.20-16 broke suspend for Macbook2,1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 12:39
movieg how to get more usefull info for the bug-squashing team12:39
gnomefreakbdmurray: would you happen to know the bugsquad ML that is for active disscusstions?12:39
gnomefreakack i messed that word up something awfull12:39
bdmurrayubuntu-bugsquad12:40
gnomefreakok ty12:40
bdmurraygnomefreak: I'm having a rough day with my keyboard too. ;)12:40
gnomefreak:)12:40
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bdmurraymovi: I think there will be another kernel update soon12:43
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movioh, and anyone here running gutsy and the new intel graphics driver ?12:44
bdmurraymovi: I am12:45
movibdmurray, how is it?12:45
movithe new xrandr stuff12:45
bdmurraymovi: what do you mean exactly I haven't played with it much12:45
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ubotuNew bug: #119218 in Ubuntu "copy and paste from gedit to oowriter fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921812:46
ubotuNew bug: #119219 in empathy (universe) "empathy: always launches on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11921912:46
movithe intel graphics driver 2.0 has xrandr 1.2 stuff - dynamic geometry adjustment12:46
movior monitor hotplug12:46
movii wondered how that works for people12:46
bdmurrayhmm, I haven't plugged a monitor into it . . .12:47
bdmurraywould mplayer adjust video output using it?12:49
ubotuNew bug: #119220 in empathy (universe) "empathy: no launcher in the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922012:51
movino idea12:52
ubotuNew bug: #119221 in nautilus (main) "Lost Audio completely." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922112:56
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ubotuNew bug: #119184 in hal "HAL : macbook-backlight is broken for Macbook C2D" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11918401:00
ubotuNew bug: #119222 in Ubuntu "rhythmbox doesn't find audio disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922201:00
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dubis there a problem with hald currently?01:14
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bdmurraynot that I know of could you elaborate?01:14
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dubgot some problems using usb->serial dongles, worked fine 'recently' unfer feisty01:19
dubhttp://dub.net.nz/hal01:19
ubotuNew bug: #119224 in xfsprogs (main) "xfs_admin gives "fatal error" when trying to label mounted device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922401:20
ubotuNew bug: #119225 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922501:20
ubotuNew bug: #119226 in Ubuntu "nautilus freezes when there is a 24x24 png in the home folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922601:20
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ubotuNew bug: #119229 in Ubuntu "evolution freezes and cannot open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922901:55
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ubotuNew bug: #119230 in hugin (universe) "Gutsy-hugin-autopano-complete failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923002:16
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ubotuNew bug: #119231 in alsa-driver (main) "Mic echo is ok, but no audio playback in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923102:31
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crimsunwhat the02:50
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khermans__Anyone know if Gutsy Tribe CD is built and good?03:07
bdmurraykhermans__: yes, Tribe 1 was released03:08
khermans__bdmurray, cool i think i will upgrade from feisty then :-)03:08
khermans__what time was it built?03:09
bdmurraysometime this morning, however it is _very_ early in the release cycle03:10
khermans__bdmurray, i know03:10
khermans__bdmurray, i ran feisty for 4 months pre-release03:10
khermans__on amd64 mind you :-)03:10
khermans__with ndiswrapper!03:10
bdmurraycool, just wanted to make sure03:11
bdmurrayit was announced on ubuntu-devel-announce03:11
khermans__i will be sure to report some bugs soon, th03:11
khermans__bdmurray, yeah ive been waiting since i knew the schedule when mark posted it03:11
khermans__go sabdfl03:12
khermans__bdmurray, should i be wary of upgrading on the fly via APT (rather than from tribe 1 cd) right now?03:16
ubotuNew bug: #119233 in Ubuntu "hard drive mount letters changed AGAIN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923303:16
khermans__i mean, were any huge fixes popped in?03:16
bdmurraykhermans__: not that I know of, aptitude is preferred over apt I beleive though03:17
khermans__bdmurray, well aptitude is a front-end for apt03:17
khermans__thats what i would be using03:17
khermans__here i go, dist-upgrade feisty->gutsy03:19
bdmurraygood luck!03:19
ubotuNew bug: #119235 in upstart (main) "Rio Forge USB MP3 player only mounts if connected during boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923503:20
khermans__ok there are some depends issues, but nothing i can see that is major (i hope)03:21
ubotuNew bug: #119234 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office Word Processor crashes when typing first word after taking several minutes to start up. (using LiveCD AMD64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923403:21
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ubotuNew bug: #119236 in Ubuntu "HP dv4150 notebook: no suspend or sleep in shutdown menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923603:40
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ubotuNew bug: #119240 in Ubuntu "UI inconsistency unmount vs eject" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924004:11
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ubotuNew bug: #119241 in debhelper (main) "dh_desktop should only call update-desktop-database if MimeType field exists " [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924104:15
ubotuNew bug: #119242 in Ubuntu "Installer doesn't support WPA wireless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924204:15
ubotuNew bug: #119243 in adept (main) "adept manager & license agreement issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924304:20
ubotuNew bug: #119244 in Ubuntu "Wake-up from suspend not working, Thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924404:20
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ubotuNew bug: #119245 in Ubuntu "Live CD not working, thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924504:25
ubotuNew bug: #119246 in Ubuntu "No working graphics after installation, thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924604:25
crimsunerr04:26
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ubotuNew bug: #119247 in unison (universe) "Unison graphic mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924704:35
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ubotuNew bug: #119248 in apt (main) "feisty-updates not enabled by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924804:51
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ubotuNew bug: #119249 in nufw (universe) "Please merge nufw 2.2.0-2ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11924905:10
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ubotuNew bug: #119250 in amarok (main) "KAudioManagerPlay crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925005:31
persiaDo any python people around use pycrust?  I cannot replicate bug 119191 in gutsy, and suspect it belongs to pycrust rather than wxwidgets, but I'm not confident enough with python to be sure.05:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119191 in wxwidgets2.8 "PyCrust crashes when calling twice a wx.App constructor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11919105:38
ubotuNew bug: #119251 in software-properties (main) "software-properties-gtk should be eplaced by apt-spy backend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925105:45
ubotuNew bug: #119252 in nexuiz (universe) "Please sync nexuiz (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925206:00
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ubotuNew bug: #119253 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "crash on 2.6.20-16.28" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925306:15
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ubotuNew bug: #119254 in kvm (universe) "Fails to create KVM context on linux-image-2.6.22-6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925406:35
ubotuNew bug: #119255 in Ubuntu "gutsy tribe1 livecd doesn't boot on new macbook pro (santa rosa)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925506:35
ubotuNew bug: #119256 in debian-installer (main) "Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) installation fails on Intel p965 chipset motherboards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925606:40
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ubotuNew bug: #119257 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes and or Firefox windows close." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925706:57
ubotuNew bug: #119258 in k3b (main) "K3B is freezing system AFTER burning DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925806:57
ubotuNew bug: #119259 in Ubuntu "Numlock turns off at login and misses first keystroke" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11925907:00
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ubotuNew bug: #119260 in exaile (universe) "exaile has started adding unwanted tracks to the playlist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926007:11
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ubotuNew bug: #119261 in Ubuntu "Splash screen, thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926107:25
Hobbsee!logs07:25
ubotuChannel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs07:25
ubotuNew bug: #119262 in penguintv (universe) "New upstream release of PenguinTV, please update it for Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926207:30
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ubotuNew bug: #119263 in kdeutils (main) "KGpg cannot select $HOME/.gnupg/gpg.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926307:45
Admiral_Chicagoevening everyone.08:01
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ubotuNew bug: #119266 in Ubuntu "Intel HDA Sound device doesn't work in gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926608:40
ubotuNew bug: #119267 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "apport patches for CORE_REAL_RLIM and limit overriding do not work any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926708:40
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dholbachgood morning08:41
Admiral_Chicagohey there dholbach08:41
dholbachhi Admiral_Chicago08:42
Admiral_Chicagodholbach: question: when there is a merge request Bug 119131 the appropriate tag is needs-packaging correct?08:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119131 in dbmail "Please Merge 2.2.5 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11913108:42
Admiral_Chicagoiirc, there was a packaging tag, is that for packages built incorrectly?08:43
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dholbachAdmiral_Chicago: no, that's only for NEW packages - stuff we never had in the archive before08:43
Hobbseethere's an "upgrade" tag too iirc08:43
dholbachI think we have 'merge' for merges08:43
dholbach'ftbfs' for stuff that does not build08:43
dholbachand 'upgrade' for package updates08:43
Hobbseeoh blerg08:43
Hobbseebugs like that can just be rejected08:43
Hobbseeif they're not actually putting the work into doing the merge, we can find otu the "merge needed" bugs in other ways08:44
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=== persia has been using "packaging" for packaging issues and "needs-packaging" for new package requests.
Admiral_Chicagoso upgrade would be the appropriate response but it can be rejected?08:45
=== Hobbsee rejects
dholbachpersia: rock on08:45
dholbachI'll triage some bugs and add tags later on08:45
Hobbseedholbach: i'm wondering where people are getting the idea that we need them to say "hey, this needs merging"08:46
Hobbseeof course there's  alist.08:46
Admiral_Chicagolet me check out Hobbsee's answer, there are some bugs like that which I have seen before08:46
=== Hobbsee has rejected some of them before, too
dholbachHobbsee: might be an old mergine howto08:46
Hobbseenew package upgrades are kinda differnet - but are often good to file in debian, especially for packages taht we dont touch08:46
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=== persia thinks it comes from seeing "Merge" bugs, and assuming they are all manually filed without reading the wiki.
Admiral_Chicagoi see 2.2.1 is in universe....08:47
persiaHobbsee: When rejecting these bugs, could you please encourage the reported to assign themselves if they are going to do the work?08:47
persias/reported/reporter/08:48
Hobbseepersia: ther's an idea08:48
Hobbseepersia: i basically leave it alone unless they seem to be willing to do anything for it08:48
persiaHobbsee: My first ever merge was because someone commented on an upgrade request bug, and suggested what I should do :)08:48
Hobbseeahhhh08:48
Hobbseefair enough08:48
Admiral_Chicagodholbach: may i PM you?08:53
dholbachsure08:53
HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: he bites08:56
Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: i won't put my hands in the cage...08:57
Admiral_Chicagowin 1808:57
Admiral_Chicagoerr..08:57
Hobbseehehe08:57
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ubotuNew bug: #119269 in firefox (main) "i can"t print from firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11926909:01
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ubotuNew bug: #119270 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with AttributeError in get_version()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927009:05
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Admiral_Chicagocan someone point me to the correct kernels in each release09:16
Admiral_Chicagoi've looked in the wiki pages...nothing.09:16
Admiral_Chicagoi think the bot knows it ..this is to triage Bug 11923309:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119233 in Ubuntu "hard drive mount letters changed AGAIN" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11923309:17
Admiral_Chicagoplus its likely a dup so i want to run bughelper on it...09:18
ubotuNew bug: #119271 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "MySQL relay logs are saved in volatile filesystem /var/run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927109:20
crimsunAdmiral_Chicago: check the LP pages09:21
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crimsunhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.2209:21
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: thanks thats what i needed09:22
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crimsunnp09:23
Admiral_Chicagoone more question: the stacktrace for Bug 119201 doesn't seem to say anything relevant but some pointers (afaik) so what do we do about it?09:24
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119201 in vlc "[apport]  vlc crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11920109:24
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ubotuNew bug: #119272 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "VIA Rhine doesn't have MMIO and NAPI enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927209:36
Admiral_Chicagobug 9855409:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 98554 in beryl-core "All windows opacified in Feisty 7.04 using Beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9855409:42
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ubotuLaunchpad bug 109550 in beryl-core "Black/White/unrendered windows in Beryl " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10955009:43
ubotuNew bug: #119274 in sound-recorder (universe) "No sound capture, shivering volume control slider" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927409:55
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ubotuNew bug: #119275 in audacious (universe) "audacious-plugins-extra does not contain the adplug plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927510:05
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pochuasac, gnomefreak: do you remember the listen gtkembedmoz crash? Now we have a gdb backtrace!! Bug 11668710:10
ubotuLaunchpad bug 116687 in listen "[gutsy]  Listen crashes with segfault" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11668710:10
ubotuNew bug: #119277 in nautilus (main) "crash when right click+property on audio + video files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927710:11
asacpochu: let me see10:11
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asacpochu: can you look whats at "EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8c4b150, aAlreadyRealized=0xbfc78848) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:257" ?10:14
asacand maybe paste?10:14
pochu0xb5002014 in EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8c4b150, aAlreadyRealized=0xbfc78848) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:25710:16
pochu257EmbedPrivate.cpp: No such file or directory.10:16
ubotuNew bug: #119278 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "Tribe 1: IndexError: list index out of range" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11927810:16
pochuasac: how would I find it? ^ :)10:16
ubotuNew bug: #119280 in epydoc (main) "Please sync epydoc (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11928010:16
pochuasac: Maybe it's a missing dependency?10:16
asacpochu: the file is in firefox source tree10:19
pochuemilio@kiko:/usr/lib/firefox$ dpkg -L firefox | grep Embed10:20
pochuemilio@kiko:/usr/lib/firefox$10:20
asacpochu: its in the source tree10:20
asacapt-get source firefox ;)10:20
pochuAh, ok :)10:20
pochuSorry, I didn't know what you mean.10:21
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ubotuNew bug: #119281 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed while downloading extra huge files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11928110:31
pochuasac: http://pastebin.ca/54994410:34
asachttp://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp#25710:36
asacis that the same line we have at 257?10:36
asacpochu: ah sorry i see :)10:37
asacpochu: can you try to attach a debugger and break somewhere in the proximity?10:38
pochuasac: Sorry, I don't know what you mean / how to do that.10:40
pochuIf you explain it to me, I'll be glad to do it :)10:40
dholbachwiki page! :)10:42
dholbachMasteringGDB :)10:42
pochudholbach: it's empty :)10:43
dholbachyeah, I mean it'd be nice to have it10:43
asacif it really crashes there, then there is something basic going wrong10:43
dholbachDebuggingProgramCrash is a good start already10:43
dholbachbut it does not cover break points etc10:43
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dholbachhey mvo10:43
mvohey dholbach!10:43
pochuasac: Do you want me just to crash listen under gdb?10:44
asacpochu: at best set a break point ....10:45
asac(gdb) break EmbedPrivate.cpp:250 (some valid line before the crash)10:46
asacthen run10:46
pochuOk, let me try.10:46
asaconce you got i breaking we can try to go on10:46
asacthough its really basic scary stuff that fails :) ... lets hope10:47
pochuasac: I'm running gdb in mozilla/embedding/browser/gtk/src, then doing (gdb) break EmbedPrivate.cpp:250, but it says No symbol table is loaded.  Use the "file" command.10:48
pochuI don't know what I'm doing wrong10:48
asacpochu: lets start at the beginning10:49
asachow do you start?10:49
pochugdb10:49
pochu(gdb) EmbedPrivate.cpp:25010:49
pochuOr do you want to crash listen?10:49
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asacpochu: i think you are not doing right ... you have to be able to start listen in debugger10:50
asacjust gdb10:50
asacwill not bring you to that point10:50
asacpochu: is listen a python program?10:51
pochuOk, I didn't undertand you, sorry :)10:51
pochuasac: yes, it is.10:51
asacpochu: if so it should all boil down to the question: "how can I start python in a debugger" ... which i have no answer to atm. but it should be possible10:51
pochuI think "gdb /usr/bin/python", "(gdb) /usr/bin/listen" will work. Let me try.10:52
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pochuNo, (gdb) /usr/lib/listen/listen.py, but then I have to run gdb setting the library path.10:54
=== pochu installs listen 0.5 from the repos.
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pochuYeah!!10:56
=== pochu runs a python app under gdb for the first time :)
pochuasac: ok, listen crashed. Do I have to run any special command for that break thing, or is a bt and bt full ok?10:58
asacpochu: you have to set the break point before you start listen10:59
pochuasac: yeah, I set it.11:00
asacso did it crash ... or did it break?11:00
pochu(gdb) break EmbedPrivate.cpp:25011:00
pochuNo source file named EmbedPrivate.cpp.11:00
pochuMake breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n] ) y11:00
pochuBreakpoint 1 (EmbedPrivate.cpp:250) pending.11:00
asacuse line 251 ... 250 doesn't exist (please verify in current ffox source)11:00
pochuasac: gtk or photon?11:01
asacgtk11:02
pochuRight, it's a comment :)11:02
pochuOk, let's try 25111:02
ubotuNew bug: #119283 in Ubuntu "Monitor not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11928311:06
ubotuNew bug: #119285 in koffice-i18n (universe) "italian translations for krita seem to use obsolete translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11928511:06
pochuasac: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.11:06
pochu[Switching to Thread -1210201904 (LWP 9957)] 11:06
pochu0xb4bdf014 in ?? () from /usr/lib/firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so11:06
pochu(gdb)11:06
pochuNothing happens, using 251...11:06
asachmm11:06
asacwhere does it crash now?11:06
asacstill the same place?11:07
pochuBut it didn't find it at the beggining...11:07
pochuNo source file named EmbedPrivate.cpp.11:07
pochuMake breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n] ) y11:07
asacor somewhere different?11:07
asacpochu: that is usually not a problem11:07
pochuasac: yeah, when clicking on lyrics11:07
asacpochu: do you have dbgsym packages installed?11:07
pochu(wikipedia should be the same)11:07
pochuOuch!11:07
asacpochu: no ... i mean where in backtrace?11:07
pochu:)11:07
asacnot where in the application :)11:07
pochuasac: oh, yeah11:07
pochu0xb4bdf014 in ?? () from /usr/lib/firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so11:07
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pochuAre they still in pitti's repo?11:08
=== pochu checks
pochu!backtrace11:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backtrace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:08
asacpochu: they should be11:08
persiapochu: Yes.11:09
pochuOk, thanks.11:09
ubotuNew bug: #119287 in zenity (main) "--day option no longer accepts 0 padded inputs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11928711:15
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ubotuNew bug: #119289 in cupsys (main) "make backend invocation compatible to upstream" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11928911:20
pochuasac: yeah!11:20
pochuBreakpoint 2, EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8cf0808, aAlreadyRealized=0xbf8dbf38) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:25111:20
pochu251       mNavigation = do_QueryInterface(webBrowser);11:20
pochuCurrent language:  auto; currently c++11:20
pochu(gdb)11:20
asaccool11:21
asacso what is in webBrowser?11:21
asac(gdb) print webBrowser11:21
pochu$1 = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x0}, <No data fields>}11:21
asacyeah as expected11:21
asacgood news: its not an exploitable crash :-P11:21
pochu:)11:22
pochuand the bad news? :)11:22
asacit crashes :)11:22
pochulol11:22
asacwebBrowser is 0x011:22
asacthat means it has not been instantiated11:22
asacis webBrowser a method argument?11:22
asacplease look in the source file and find out where webBrowser is ment to be set11:23
asacyou can use the URL i provided11:23
asacas then you can just post links to specific code lines11:23
asace.g. the http://lxr.mozi...11:23
asacpochu: oh11:24
asacsorry i messed up11:24
asacwhat is in mWindow?11:24
pochu$2 = (class EmbedWindow *) 0x9f65de011:24
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asacok ... and in *mWindow (try to dereference)11:24
pochutry what? :)11:25
asacprint *mWindow11:25
asacpochu: please no pm pastes :(11:26
pochuasac: /msg, it was a bit long, and I'm lazy to open pastebin :p11:26
asack11:26
pochuasac: ok, sorry :)11:26
asacnp11:27
asacok ... try 'next'11:28
asacto step over that line11:28
pochu731     ../../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h: No such file or directory.11:28
pochu        in ../../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h11:28
asachmmm ... break EmbedPrivate.cpp:25611:29
asacthen continue11:29
pochuBreakpoint 3, EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8cf0808, aAlreadyRealized=0xbf8dbf38) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:25611:30
pochu256       mSessionHistory = do_CreateInstance(NS_SHISTORY_CONTRACTID);11:30
asacok11:30
asacwhat is in webBrowser now?11:30
asacis it properly set?11:30
asacand mNavigation?11:30
asaccan you please post the dereferenced values to pastebin as well?11:31
asachttp://pastebin.mozilla.org :)11:31
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pochuasac: dereferenced == *something ?11:33
asacyeah11:33
pochuhttp://pastebin.mozilla.org/8672911:33
asacpochu: yeah11:34
asacso you are at line 256?11:34
pochuyeah: Breakpoint 3 at 0xb4b6f000: file EmbedPrivate.cpp, line 256.11:35
pochu(gdb) continue11:35
pochuThen I did those prints.11:35
asacyes11:35
ubotuNew bug: #119290 in idjc (universe) "Please sync idjc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929011:35
asacwebBrowser appears not to be there11:35
asaccan you set break point here:11:36
asachttp://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp#17211:36
asacand then rerun11:36
asac(e.g. just (gdb) run )11:36
pochuasac: start from the beggining?11:37
asacjust add the breakpoint to line 17211:37
asacand run again (e.g. you just need to type run in gdb to restart)11:37
pochuThe program being debugged has been started already.11:38
pochuStart it from the beginning? (y or n)11:38
asacy11:38
pochuok11:38
pochuBreakpoint 4, EmbedPrivate::Init (this=0x8628518, aOwningWidget=0x8ba4060) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:17211:39
pochu172       if (mOwningWidget)11:39
pochubrb11:40
asacmOwningWidget ... is that set?11:46
asacshould be 0x011:46
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asacif so it would be intersting to see what mWindow is in line 18311:48
pochu$6 = (GtkMozEmbed *) 0x011:56
pochuasac: do I start again with line 183?11:56
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asacno you can "next" until you are at that line11:57
asac*or*11:57
asacyou can set break 18311:57
asacthen continue11:57
asac(as a gdb instruction)11:57
pochuCool11:57
asacpochu: actually you don't need to type everything ... 'p' is 'print'; 'cont' for 'continue'; 'r' for 'run'11:58
asaci think 'n' is next11:58
=== pochu makes a mental note :)
pochu$7 = (class EmbedWindow *) 0x9be07e811:59
asacok please break http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/qt/src/EmbedWindow.cpp#10612:02
asac(which is where the webbrowser should be created)12:03
asacoh12:03
asacpochu: sorry12:03
asacthats QT :)12:03
asachttp://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedWindow.cpp#7212:03
asacthats the place for gtk12:03
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ubotuNew bug: #119291 in thunderbird (main) "thunderbird 2.0 should use a local startpage" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929112:06
ubotuNew bug: #119292 in Ubuntu "OS won't boot after installing from the LIVE CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929212:06
pochuasac: hmm, I can't continue to it, it says The program no longer exists.12:10
ubotuNew bug: #119293 in skencil (universe) "skencil segfault on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929312:10
pochuI've exited gdb and started again, but it stops at 257, instead of 7212:10
asache?12:10
asacpochu: note its a different file12:10
asacits not EmbedPrivate.cpp ... but EmbedWindow.cpp12:11
pochuOh, I see.12:11
pochuasac: ok, done. What should I look at?12:13
ubotuNew bug: #119294 in openssl (main) "OpenSSL should support VIA PadLock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929412:15
ubotuNew bug: #119295 in openssh (main) "OpenSSH should support VIA PadLock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929512:15
pochu(gdb) p webBrowser12:16
pochuNo symbol "webBrowser" in current context.12:16
pochu(gdb) p mWebBrowser12:17
pochu$1 = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x0}, <No data fields>}12:17
=== mvo vaguely remembers that he has seen this as well a long time ago when pymozembed broke
pochumvo: Bug #26436 :)12:19
ubotuLaunchpad bug 26436 in firefox "gtkmozembed crashs with python" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/2643612:19
mvofirst reported on 2005-12-01  by Michael Vogt ;)12:20
pochumvo: But listen works pretty fine in Feisty12:20
asacpochu: where are you now?12:20
pochuasac: Breakpoint 2, EmbedWindow::Init (this=0x9f60da8, aOwner=0x8ba5540) at EmbedWindow.cpp:7212:20
pochu72        mWebBrowser = do_CreateInstance(NS_WEBBROWSER_CONTRACTID);12:20
asacyeah ... see if mWebBrowser is created in 73 :)12:21
asace.g. not 0x012:21
mvodoes it work now? I switched my code away from it a while ago because of this. it would be cool if it is back12:21
pochumvo: but it's broken again in Gutsy :/12:22
pochuasac: the same :( $2 = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x0}, <No data fields>}12:22
mvouh, I see12:22
asacpochu: thats the reason then :) ... do you see anything on the console in that step (e.g. from 72 -> 73)?12:22
pochuHmm, it goes to line 780 and 831, dunno if it's related12:23
asacin what file?12:23
pochuasac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8673612:24
asacah ... ignore the nsCOMPtr stuff12:24
asacpochu: actually the problem occurs in do_CreateInstance (line 72)12:25
asaci suspect that the XPCOM component for the webbrowser just cannot be resolved12:25
asacbut we would need to step into the do_CreateInstance impl to see what really is going on12:26
ubotuNew bug: #119296 in Ubuntu "Backport request: libboost 1.34" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929612:36
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pochuasac: That's in firefox, right? ^12:42
pochu(the do_CreateInstance implementation)12:42
asacyeah ... its really deeply entrenched in xpcom12:43
ubotuNew bug: #119297 in texlive-lang (main) "package texlive-lang-italian failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929712:46
ubotuNew bug: #119299 in vbetool (main) "vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11929912:51
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ubotuNew bug: #119302 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "no privilege to automount external usb drive/stick" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930201:21
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ubotuNew bug: #119303 in Ubuntu "Muine crashes when opening the song or album selector" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930301:26
ubotuNew bug: #119305 in Ubuntu "webcam stops working once I install any sofware , update or restricted driver. The webcam is Vimicro301 Neptune" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930501:35
pochubdmurray: Can you review the HugDay announce? http://pastebin.ca/55029001:42
pochudholbach: ^ I've put a couple of references to MOTU / packaging. WDYT?01:42
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pochudholbach: would you mind changing the topic to note the next HugDay? :)01:43
ubotuNew bug: #119306 in devscripts (main) "requestsync line 121: NameError: name 'changelog' is not defined" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930601:45
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ubotuNew bug: #119308 in Ubuntu "Gutsy shutdown doesn't" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930801:55
ubotuNew bug: #119309 in Ubuntu "Gutsy CD Live shutdown can't remve CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930902:00
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ubotuNew bug: #119310 in Ubuntu "Gutsy shared folder doesn't on local LAN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931002:15
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dholbachpochu: thanks for taking care of that02:17
pochudholbach: np. What do you think about the announce? It's for UWN and The Fridge.02:19
dholbachpochu: better to let heno and bdmurray have a look02:19
pochuSure thing, but is the Motu part ok? :)02:20
Hobbseedude...what's with abusive people on bugtrackers?02:21
dholbachlooks good02:22
dholbachHobbsee: what do you mean?02:22
Hobbseedholbach: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/5267002:22
ubotuLaunchpad bug 52670 in kde-systemsettings "Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 02:22
pochuCool. Will wait for bdmurray and heno's input :)02:22
Hobbseedholbach: cimmo's constantly like this, on all bug reports.02:22
dholbachwe have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-69ee66f34f5b9b84fa7a84823c8c4e4cc292da7102:24
dholbachto remind people of the CoC02:24
dholbachi found it helped in the past to remind that leaving the persons that would fix the bug in a bad mood would really not help to get it fixed any quicker02:24
Hobbseeahh, useful02:25
coNPMithrandir: do you think it is possible to get Openbox 3.4 into Gutsy? Should I file a request / prepare an update package or do you want to package it anyway for debian (and then we can sync from sid)?02:26
dholbachpreparing a package update is probably most useful02:27
dholbachunless Mithrandir thinks differently?02:27
coNPokay, just because I was told some days ago to let Debian package it first ...02:27
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pochuasac: re: listen crash, I'm afraid I can't look at that implemantation, but please let me know if I can be of any help with more debugging or something.02:28
asacpochu: yeah02:28
MithrandircoNP: sure, I can do that.02:28
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coNPheya pochu02:28
asacpochu: i suspect that the python script somehow eats stderr output02:29
coNPMithrandir: thanks! :)02:29
MithrandircoNP: actually, I think I'll ask somebody to adopt it in Debian, since I don't use Debian on the desktop any more.02:29
asacpochu: imo it cannot load some lib or something02:29
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coNPI really *love* Openbox. And hug Mithrandir02:29
asacpochu: but we should see that in stderr02:29
pochuasac: do you mean it's likely a listen bug?02:29
asacpochu: please look if listen tweaks with stdout and stderr02:29
asacpochu: its most likely a listen bug02:29
asacpochu: or a pythonmozembed bug02:30
asacpochu: but i still miss the confirmation that listen is python at al?02:30
ubotuNew bug: #119312 in Ubuntu "Cannot move some files to trash on ntfs-3g volume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931202:30
pochuasac: It's python, right.02:31
coNPpochu: does your update-manager work now?02:31
pochuThough the mmkeys part isn't, at least.02:31
pochucoNP: I don't think so, I have to try cleaning the profile or something.02:32
pochuIt's likely to be that.02:32
ubotuNew bug: #119313 in devscripts (main) "requestsync can't handle third parameter (basever) but advertises it in usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931302:35
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mvopochu: what is borken in update-manager`?02:39
ubotuNew bug: #119314 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[share-admin]  No path to change NFS/Samba configuration after first launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931402:40
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ubotuNew bug: #119315 in udev (main) "udevd hogs the processor and spams /var/log/messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931502:45
ubotuNew bug: #119316 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-kde crashed with UnboundLocalError in get_xorgdata()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931602:45
Hobbseedholbach: what suprises me is that the guy used to hang around #kubuntu-devel, so should hav ena idea of the way things work02:46
ubotuNew bug: #119317 in empathy (universe) "Please sync empathy (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931702:56
ubotuNew bug: #119318 in Ubuntu "power manager insists batter is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11931802:56
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dholbachHobbsee: hm03:03
ubotuNew bug: #119321 in Ubuntu "Swap device UUID incorrect in /etc/fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11932103:10
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pochumvo: when I open it, I can see the updates and changelogs. But if I click on "Install updates", it hangs.03:28
pochumvo: But not just update-manager. Then the menu doesn't work, the panel shortcuts...03:29
pochuBut coNP tried to reproduce, and it doesn't help, and since there's no bug report, I guess it's just me.03:30
DarkMageZpochu, feel lucky. some people can't even boot their gutsy systems03:31
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pochuDarkMageZ: then ask them to file a bug ;)03:33
DarkMageZi'm going to give one last thing a try before i ask for help with it03:33
ubotuNew bug: #119325 in Ubuntu "USB 2.0 transfer at very low speed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11932503:35
mvopochu: that might be a gksu problem?03:39
pochumvo: probably, since I've had other problems with gksu in the past (the screen didn't refresh unless a killall gksu)03:40
ubotuNew bug: #119326 in Ubuntu "No hibernate nor sleep button in the quit menu of Gutsy Tribe-1 (dup-of: 118537)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11932603:41
ubotuNew bug: #119327 in gnome-terminal (main) "el gestor snaptic da errores y no instala nada, y a.adir y quitar que esta en el menu aplicaciones tampoco instala nada" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11932703:46
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ubotuNew bug: #119329 in gnome-panel (main) "Can not configure higher display resolution and refresh rate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11932903:51
adolsoncould I put a request for someone to look at bugs 95368, 91854 on the next hug day? I think it's the same problem in both bugs, so you can kill two birds with this one..03:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 95368 in hal "(feisty) unmounting a device icon on desktop gives an error dialog" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9536803:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91854 in gnome-volume-manager "Cannot unmount volume: Cannot remove directory (dup-of: 85424)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9185403:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 85424 in sysvinit "Unmount fails every time " [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8542403:53
adolsonthat fix released, I don't believe, since I just installed feisty last night and the problem is still there.. but if the fix is out there, I would love to have it - I haven't found it yet03:55
persiaadolson: Does the workaround posted by Nicolas_Raoul work for you?03:59
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adolsondeleting the hal table file? no.. I have it deleting the file at every bootup right now.. but it continues to occur04:02
adolsonwhen I try to unmount this person's MP3 player, it appears to unmount and immediately re-mount, as it reopens the nautilus window on the device. this doesn't happen on my debian machine04:03
persiaadolson: In that case, you might want to reopen the bug and post a comment with your hardware details and experience to let those who think it was fixed know that it doesn't work for you.04:04
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adolsonalright, well, I don't know what to do in the meantime.. I'm setting up someone's PC with Linux, and was hoping to give them Ubuntu, but this is a pretty big issue to them (they're pretty much computer novices in general). I guess my options are to use a different distro or tell them they can't use their MP3 player, and they will reinstall Windows04:10
pochuadolson: You can install Dapper, which is LTS, for example.04:11
adolsonwhat's the difference? LTS means it's supported until 2008, right? and Feisty is supported until 2009? something like that. does LTS mean that issues with dapper will be resolved immediately?04:12
pochuI'm debugging a xqf crash with gdb, and when xqf crashes, the system hangs (I can move the mouse though, but nothing else works). I have to go to a VT and killall gdb. The gdb output says the crash was a SIGABRT. Is that supposed to hang the system?04:12
adolsonand I can't remember my password for launchpad.. argh.. I think the ubuntu studio guys disabled my email account too.. great, this gets better and better04:13
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pochuadolson: Well, it has less bugs, since those big bugs have been solved (it was released a year ago).04:13
pochuadolson: #launchpad for that. They might be able to help you.04:14
pochuOr #ubuntustudio even ;)04:14
adolsonapparently I had my gmail address on there too04:15
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ubotuNew bug: #119331 in kdepim (main) "printing from kmail is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933104:36
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ubotuNew bug: #119332 in pdns (universe) "PowerDNS crashes on heavy usage of its built-in web server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933204:55
ubotuNew bug: #119333 in adept (main) "same that 55233" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933305:00
ubotuNew bug: #119334 in hal (main) "libhal-dev package is missing libhal.la file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933405:00
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ubotuNew bug: #119335 in adept (main) "the same 55322 Adept cannot initialize KDE frontend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933505:05
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Hobbseedholbach: argh, there are too many bugs.05:09
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coNPkill'em all :)05:10
dholbachagreed05:11
Hobbseei wish05:11
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coNPthere might be a CoC violation in killing bugs, however05:11
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ubotuNew bug: #119336 in glchess (universe) "glChess crashes on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933605:15
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adolson8542405:17
dholbachbug 8542405:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 85424 in hal "Unmount fails every time " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8542405:17
adolsonhow come that bot didn't spit stuff out about bug 8542405:17
dholbachbug <number>05:17
adolsonthanks daniel :D05:18
adolsonI just wanted to see that I did it right, and the status is not fix released anymore05:18
dholbachright05:18
adolsonit's been a while since I touched launchpad05:19
ubotuNew bug: #119337 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Unknown ethernet controller on Intel D63578-200 motherboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933705:21
ubotuNew bug: #119338 in Ubuntu "No internet sites work (except for google and mozilla)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933805:21
ubotuNew bug: #119339 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11933905:31
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ubotuNew bug: #119307 in synaptic (main) "_cache->open() failed" [Wishlist,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11930705:35
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ubotuNew bug: #119341 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa (main) "glxinfo command causes Xorg to abort on Dimension E520" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11934105:51
ubotuNew bug: #119344 in Ubuntu "Restricted drivers manager does not load fglrx module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11934405:51
ubotuNew bug: #119346 in gdesklets (universe) "gdesklets wont Start after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11934605:51
ubotuNew bug: #119343 in Ubuntu "Users-Admin and network-admin fail to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11934305:56
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ubotuNew bug: #119347 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Unknown ATI graphics controller on Dimension E520" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11934706:01
ubotuNew bug: #119349 in Ubuntu "can't update translation-id" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11934906:01
ubotuNew bug: #119350 in hal (main) "Sound Blaster X-Fi doesn't work and" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935006:01
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gnomefreakbdmurray: hide06:06
gnomefreak;)06:06
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bdmurrayhmm, did I miss something?06:11
pochubdmurray: 13:42 <     pochu> bdmurray: Can you review the HugDay announce? http://pastebin.ca/55029006:13
bdmurraypochu: adding something about Gutsy Tribe 1 being out would be nice06:15
ubotuNew bug: #119351 in udev (main) "udev 40-permissions.rules: wrong case in vendor string for Epson Perfection1200 scanner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935106:16
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bdmurray\o/06:17
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Hobbseebdmurray: i'm using the bad method, though06:18
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Hobbseebdmurray: argh...all these bugs make me want to bash something.06:25
bdmurrayHobbsee: look at the bug graphs though, we are holding steady06:26
Hobbseenot in kde....06:26
Hobbseemost bugs arent ours, and the interest isnt there upstream to fix them, as they're working on kde4, so will only do things which affect both06:26
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bdmurrayhmm, isn't it possible to run kde4 on gutsy / feisty?06:29
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pochubdmurray: http://pastebin.ca/551010, lines 11-13. re: tribe-1 :)06:38
bdmurraypochu: MOTU is universe and multiverse right?06:39
Hobbseebdmurray: it's possible, doesnt work very well06:41
bdmurrayHobbsee: okay, I won't try it then. :)06:42
pochubdmurray: yes, it is.06:42
Hobbseebdmurray: s/HugDay/Hug Day/ usually06:42
bdmurraypochu: okay, I'll add that06:42
pochubdmurray: hmm, maybe we should s/MOTU/developer/ or something?06:43
pochubdmurray: cool :)06:43
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pochubdmurray: would you mind mailing fridge-devel@l.u.c, too? :)06:46
pochuSo it gets announced in The Fridge.06:47
bdmurraypochu: okay, did you want to update uwn?06:47
bdmurrayhttp://pastebin.ca/55102806:48
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pochubdmurray: looks good :)06:49
pochubdmurray: gonna post it.06:49
bdmurraypochu: okay, thanks06:50
pochubdmurray: do I also email fridge-devel, or are you going to do it?06:52
bdmurraypochu: I can do that06:52
pochubdmurray: I'm thinking that if you mail that to any ML, I could paste the link at the wiki, as they are doing with every other article (to expand it later).06:53
pochuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue44#head-858c864e6a3d4e034d01152b07c38b1d0dfbd2f706:54
bdmurraypochu: I'd prefer to point people to the list of tasks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2007061306:57
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pochubdmurray: well, the announce links to it, doesn't it? :)06:58
pochubdmurray: I mean if you can announce it to ubuntu-bugsquad, and probably ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-devel-announce, as you did with the last Hug Day.06:58
bdmurraypochu: yes, I will do the e-mail announcement06:59
bdmurraypochu: I think I get it now, you'll link to mailing list posts?07:00
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pochubdmurray: yes, but the UWN editors will change it the text announcement. It's just for confort, I think07:23
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ubotuNew bug: #119354 in xen-meta (universe) "2.6.20 xen image needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935407:35
ubotuNew bug: #119355 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon - No Sound and Poor Video - Intel 82801H " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935507:35
Hobbseebug 8960607:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 89606 in kdenetwork "kopete does not recognize logitech usb webcam" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8960607:42
ubotuNew bug: #119357 in Ubuntu "gtk? do not use proper display resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935707:46
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ubotuNew bug: #119359 in dar (universe) "Please sync dar (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935907:51
ubotuNew bug: #119358 in thunderbird (main) "Weak default authentication mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11935807:55
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ubotuNew bug: #119363 in gedit (main) "setting portrait paper layout behaves incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11936308:05
ubotuNew bug: #119364 in lvm2 (main) "lvm2 does not have mirroring enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11936408:05
ubotuNew bug: #119362 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Unknown Intel graphics controller on Intel D63578-200 motherboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11936208:06
ubotuNew bug: #119366 in totem (main) "totem need "SMB protocol source plugin"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11936608:11
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ubotuNew bug: #119367 in mercurial (universe) "Bad tuple index in hg error handling" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11936708:16
bdmurrayHobbsee: ping08:23
Hobbseebdmurray: pong08:23
bdmurrayHave you seen a kde-guidance bug about bringing up battery applet and then display going dark?08:23
Hobbseebdmurray: i dont follow guidance, sorry.08:24
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Hobbseei havent seen a bug as such, no.08:24
bdmurraycoNP: I'll find out about a lot of neat software from the bugs mailing list08:24
Hobbseebdmurray: kde-guidance-powermanager would be the source package08:24
Hobbseeno, sorry08:25
Hobbseekde-guidance still is08:25
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bdmurrayI've stupidly recreated the problem many a time08:25
Hobbseeheh08:26
bdmurrayI think I mean to right click on the applet but accidently left click on it and then bam!08:26
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bdmurraythen I click the cancel button08:27
bdmurraybecause it is what I wanted to do08:27
bdmurrayer, is not08:27
Hobbseeheh08:27
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Hobbseei found a really bad example of usability a few days ago08:28
Hobbseewhere OK or cancel would normally be, they put "help"08:28
bdmurraythat is different08:28
Hobbseehehe, yes.08:29
Hobbseei believe that sebas is the contact point for guidance08:29
Hobbseeor sime08:29
Hobbseeeither of them08:29
Hobbseehoweve,r it's 4.30am - time for bed08:29
Hobbseegoodnight all08:29
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ubotuNew bug: #119369 in kipi-plugins (main) "gallery 2.2  export does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11936908:31
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ubotuNew bug: #119371 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon - Poor Video - Intel 82801H" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937108:40
ubotuNew bug: #119370 in Ubuntu "Intel Xorg driver not detected when installing Gutsy Tribe-1 on an Intel GMCHB0ICHB0 motherboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937008:45
ubotuNew bug: #119372 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging Enlightenment (E17)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937208:50
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ubotuNew bug: #119373 in audacious (universe) "Audacious crashes on opening an avi file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937308:50
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RainCTHi08:55
ubotuNew bug: #119374 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Tribe 1 CD will not boot on Lenovo M55" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937408:55
RainCTBug #119220 can be rejected, or?08:55
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119220 in empathy "empathy: no launcher in the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11922008:55
pochuHi RainCT. I don't think so, since the "workaround" is another bug ;)08:57
pochuRainCT: but I think dholbach takes care of that package, so you might want to ask him on Monday.08:58
RainCTpochu: but the other bug has this comment: "That's intentional, empathy is a desktop service just like gnome-network-manager and g-p-m and is started automatically with gnome-session. I should remove the quit option."08:58
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pochuRainCT: In that case, empathy probably needs to be automatically started after installing it, without needing to call it.08:59
pochuThere's probably no need for a menu item, though.09:00
RainCTok, I've posted a comment asking him if it does start automatically after install09:02
pochuI think he's said it doesn't, hasn't he?09:02
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Kmospochu: can you test this one - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=539609:03
Kmos*check09:03
RainCTpochu: I didn't understand so, he just said that there's no menu entry09:04
pochuRainCT: I see. Ok, then :)09:05
pochuKmos: let me see.09:05
ubotuNew bug: #119375 in Ubuntu "the sysrem start and freezes in the three mn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937509:05
ubotuNew bug: #119376 in nvtv (universe) "Cannot start nvtv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937609:05
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pochuKmos: btw, do you know that package is in Main?09:10
pochuKmos: So would need a core-dev to upload it.09:10
ubotuNew bug: #119378 in firefox (main) "Deviantart Chat system disabled in FireFox 2.0.0.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11937809:20
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Kmospochu: yes i know09:26
Kmospochu: but you can comment it.. if it's ok09:27
Kmospitti doesn't have time to upload it09:27
pochuKmos: well, I can't comment there, since I'm not a MOTU ;)09:28
Kmos:(09:29
Kmosthx anyway09:29
pochuKmos: haven't you changed anything in the debian/ dir?09:29
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linnuxxyhi09:29
linnuxxyI think there is a bug in the gfxboot of the livecd in rendering arabic/farisi text09:30
pochuKmos: if not, it's easier to review, just checking it builds, install, and removes fine (and works)09:30
Kmospochu: keescook is checking it09:30
pochuCool :)09:31
linnuxxyI'm trying to customize an arabic edition of */ubuntu but I had this problem!09:31
pochulinnuxxy: have you checked whether it's reported in launchpad?09:34
pochuAlso, what Ubuntu version is it?09:34
linnuxxyI tried it for 6.06, 6.10 and 7.0409:35
linnuxxyIt could be tested easily from any Ubuntu LiveCD09:36
linnuxxyjust but from the cd ...the first page press F2 and switch to arabic09:36
linnuxxyu will find the arabic text rendered incorrectly09:36
linnuxxyjust boot**09:37
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linnuxxythe font is loaded ok... but words are rendered in separate letters (instead of script ones) and in reverse direction09:38
ubotuNew bug: #119385 in sysklogd (main) "process `syslogd' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11938509:45
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ubotuNew bug: #119387 in myodbc (universe) "libmyodbc doesn't set up driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11938709:55
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bdmurraylinnuxxy: do you have a picture?09:58
linnuxxyyes .. wait a min09:58
linnuxxybdmurry: here http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot8fh2.png09:58
linnuxxylook to the text near of F2 Label09:59
bdmurrayand you are saying it should be reversed?10:00
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linnuxxyarabic is a scripting language ... letters is not separated like this10:01
linnuxxyit should be something like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Arabic_Text.svg/400px-Arabic_Text.svg.png10:02
ubotuNew bug: #119388 in busybox (main) "problem to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11938810:06
bdmurraylinnuxxy: okay and you did not find an exisiting bug about this?10:07
linnuxxynot10:08
linnuxxyno.. didn't10:08
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bdmurraycould you file a new bug against casper? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+filebug10:09
linnuxxyI'm filling a one now10:10
ubotuNew bug: #119391 in gnome-panel (main) "error in source package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939110:10
ubotuNew bug: #119389 in xenman (universe) "SSH problem with XenMan" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11938910:11
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bdmurraylinnuxxy: great, thanks for doing that10:12
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linnuxxyits here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot/+bug/11939310:14
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119393 in gfxboot "gfxboot doesn't render Arabic text correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 10:14
RainCTIs it normal for shortcuts to be localized?10:16
bdmurrayRainCT: could you elaborate?10:16
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RainCTbdmurray: for example if the original shortcut for save is Ctrl + S, that it becomes Ctrl + G (save = 'Guardar') if you use the software in Catalan10:17
bdmurrayRainCT: yes, that sounds right.  I recall seeing a bug about one before.10:18
bdmurrayi.e. 2 shortcuts doing the same thing in a different language10:18
pochuRainCT: It's normal, and in case you think one is wrong, you should discuss it with the translation group (via mailing list, probably)10:19
RainCTokay10:19
RainCTthanks10:19
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davmor2I have an issue with wireless in gutsy but am not sure if it is the driver or network manager is there anyway to lower the odds a bit.10:22
bdmurraywhat kind of issue?10:24
bdmurrayyou could try and statically configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces then n-m will ignore it10:24
ubotuNew bug: #119392 in Ubuntu "Nautilus won't copy cd, closes unexpectedly at  'create disc image' progress bar window." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939210:25
ubotuNew bug: #119393 in gfxboot (main) "gfxboot doesn't render Arabic text correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939310:25
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davmor2bdmurray: sorry for delay.  the issue is it will not connect unless you hit the wireless switch to turn it off and then back on.10:29
bdmurraywhat chipset that sounds familiar10:29
davmor2intel 3945 pro/wireles10:30
bdmurrayhunh, that's what I have.10:32
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bdmurraydavmor2: can you wait a little bit?10:33
davmor2np10:34
davmor2I'm guessing it's an n-m thing10:34
bdmurrayyeah, I forgot I'm not using n-m at the moment.  I'm checking mailing list though10:35
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davmor2ta10:36
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pochuasac: I'm getting "Were sorry, but we cant find what youre looking for." in the main page of the latest TB update (2.0.0.4-rc).10:43
ubotuNew bug: #119394 in Ubuntu "permission denied while automounting removable device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939410:46
ubotuNew bug: #119395 in ekiga (main) "Ekiga segfaults at startup on Feisty when Avahi is enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939510:46
ubotuNew bug: #119396 in kdepim (main) "KMail skips some emails for gmail, will get them a week late" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939610:46
ubotuNew bug: #119397 in gnome-power-manager (main) "wrong elapset time on gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939710:46
bdmurrayI may have been thinking about 10763610:47
davmor2bug #10763610:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 107636 in linux-source-2.6.20 "wifi adapter not resumed after hibernate" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10763610:47
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bdmurraydavmor2: or maybe bug 10542010:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 105420 in linux-source-2.6.20 "both iwlwifi and ipw3945 are unable to turn off rf_kill" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10542010:51
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davmor2bdmurray: not the first :(10:51
davmor2bdmurray: No that's not it either I think it might be a new bug but linked to the other two ish10:54
bdmurraydavmor2: okay, do you see anything about the killswitch in dmesg?10:54
davmor2bdmurray: hangon10:55
davmor2bdmurray: yes killswitch is on it needs to be switched off10:58
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bdmurraythen it might be kernel related10:59
davmor2right11:00
davmor2it didn't happen in feisty only gutsy11:00
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davmor2cheers I'll do a bug report11:04
davmor2tomorrow off now11:04
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ubotuNew bug: #119400 in rss-glx (main) "rss-glx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940011:05
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ubotuNew bug: #119401 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Unknown ethernet controller on Intel Bridgeport2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940111:10
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ubotuNew bug: #119403 in Ubuntu "cups lpd problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940311:20
ubotuNew bug: #119404 in mapserver (universe) "cgi-mapserver won't serve rastercg images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940411:20
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QGHello everyone. How long does one need to wait for a response to a request for more info to help triage a bug before rejecting the bug due to no response from the original reporter?11:25
bdmurrayQG: the standard is 4 weeks11:26
QGbdmurray: thank you.11:27
ubotuNew bug: #119407 in monsterz (universe) "monsterz game does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940711:31
ubotuNew bug: #119408 in kde-guidance (main) "[gutsy]  kde-guidance power manager causes screen to turn off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940811:31
ubotuNew bug: #119409 in initramfs-tools (main) "md assembly in initramfs does not allow initramfs to proceed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940911:31
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pochubdmurray: still around?11:37
bdmurrayindeed11:39
ubotuNew bug: #119411 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins (universe) "Unmet dependency on libetpan10 & libsasl2" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941111:41
pochubdmurray: I won't be around tomorrow, so I'm gonna paste your announcement at the UWN wiki, so we don't loose it :)11:41
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saispohi11:42
saispoanyone see regression on gutsy with gnome-power-manager and maybe the kernel ?11:42
bdmurraypochu: oh yes, I thought we had agreed on that11:42
bdmurraysaispo: I was just looking at bug 119397 dealing with something like that11:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119397 in gnome-power-manager "wrong elapset time on gutsy" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11939711:43
pochuI might have misunderstood you, but now we are OK ;)11:43
bdmurrayokay, good thanks for your help11:43
saispobdmurray: exactly11:43
saispobdmurray: and on my Dell Laptop, Sleeping not working, only Hibernate. Before on feisty, all works11:43
bdmurraysaispo: feel free to add the version of g-p-m you noticed it and confirm that bug11:44
saispook11:44
bdmurraysaispo: sleeping should be a different bug report11:44
saispoyep, maybe on kernel ?11:44
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ubotuNew bug: #119412 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  mac" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941211:46
ubotuNew bug: #119414 in firefox (main) "firefox cant display a ie7 saved mht file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941411:46
saispobdmurray: i comment the first byg11:48
saispos/byg/bug/11:48
bdmurraysaispo: yes with the output of 'sudo lspci -vvn', 'dmesg' (after failing to sleep), 'uname -a' and 'dmidecode'11:48
ubotuNew bug: #119413 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Control Center in KDE not displaying complete options (Gutsy LiveCD Tribe1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941311:50
ubotuNew bug: #119415 in wpasupplicant (main) ""wpa-conf managed" appears no longer supported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941511:50
saispobdmurray: ok, will report :)11:52
bdmurraysaispo: great, thanks11:54
bdmurraylet me know the number11:54
ubotuNew bug: #119406 in Ubuntu "Lock screen does not blank everything on dualhead" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11940611:55
ubotuNew bug: #119416 in kdepim (main) "Akregator does not open new window with javascript method" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941611:55
ubotuNew bug: #119417 in Ubuntu "Pointer goes offscreen on non-rectangular dual-head" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941711:55
ubotuNew bug: #119418 in firefox (main) "firefox linux versions cant handle a windows .url file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941811:55
ubotuNew bug: #119419 in kid3 (universe) "Kids3 : needs update to new FLAC library" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11941911:55
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ubotuNew bug: #119421 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Gnome splash screen stays on screen with power manager disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11942112:00
saispobdmurray: thanks to you :)12:03
saispobdmurray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/11942312:03
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119423 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Suspend to RAM (Sleeping) not working on DELL Latitude D520" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 12:03
saispoexactly12:03
pochu_bdmurray: added :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue4412:05

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