[12:07] <misfit> Linux awesomeness 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Wed May 23 01:46:23 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:08] <misfit> could the kernel be the problem?
[12:11] <bdmurray> misfit: no it looks up to date.  did burning cds used to work?
[12:12] <misfit> I don't think so, but I can burn things just fine in XP, and I haven't configured the hardware recently.
[12:14] <bdmurray> misfit: a bug report sounds in order then
[12:15] <misfit> how do I make a bug report?
[12:15] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[12:15] <bdmurray> click on report bug
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119212 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager crashed with IndexError in enable()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119212
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119213 in gnome-panel (main) "Icons in GNOME Panel 2.18.1 change order" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119213
[12:16] <misfit> thank you so much for your help guys, I truly appreciate it.
[12:17] <bdmurray> sure you'll want to include 'sudo lspci -vvn', 'uname -a' and 'dmesg' after trying to burn as attachments to your bug rep. . .
[12:17] <bdmurray> hmm, too slow
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119214 in tailor (universe) "internal tailor API change for hg didn't make it to Ubuntu's version" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119214
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119215 in totem (main) "No audio but it was present before." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119215
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119216 in apt-dpkg-ref (universe) "dpkg will not install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119216
[12:31] <movi> does this place also cover ubuntu-backports bugs ?
[12:36] <pochu> movi: I don't think so, but you can file a bug at launchpad.net/<distro>-backports
[12:36] <pochu> e.g. lp.net/feisty-backports
[12:36] <bdmurray> what do you mean movi?
[12:37] <movi> i already did
[12:37] <movi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/119184
[12:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119184 in feisty-backports "HAL : macbook-backlight is broken for Macbook C2D" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[12:38] <movi> here's the bug, and i just wanted to notify that its a low hanging fruit
[12:39] <movi> i also added this one, and would liek to know how to tacle it : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/119186
[12:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119186 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Regression : linux-image-2.6.20-16 broke suspend for Macbook2,1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[12:39] <movi> eg how to get more usefull info for the bug-squashing team
[12:39] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: would you happen to know the bugsquad ML that is for active disscusstions?
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ack i messed that word up something awfull
[12:40] <bdmurray> ubuntu-bugsquad
[12:40] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[12:40] <bdmurray> gnomefreak: I'm having a rough day with my keyboard too. ;)
[12:40] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:43] <bdmurray> movi: I think there will be another kernel update soon
[12:44] <movi> oh, and anyone here running gutsy and the new intel graphics driver ?
[12:45] <bdmurray> movi: I am
[12:45] <movi> bdmurray, how is it?
[12:45] <movi> the new xrandr stuff
[12:45] <bdmurray> movi: what do you mean exactly I haven't played with it much
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119218 in Ubuntu "copy and paste from gedit to oowriter fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119218
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119219 in empathy (universe) "empathy: always launches on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119219
[12:46] <movi> the intel graphics driver 2.0 has xrandr 1.2 stuff - dynamic geometry adjustment
[12:46] <movi> or monitor hotplug
[12:46] <movi> i wondered how that works for people
[12:47] <bdmurray> hmm, I haven't plugged a monitor into it . . .
[12:49] <bdmurray> would mplayer adjust video output using it?
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119220 in empathy (universe) "empathy: no launcher in the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119220
[12:52] <movi> no idea
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119221 in nautilus (main) "Lost Audio completely." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119221
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119184 in hal "HAL : macbook-backlight is broken for Macbook C2D" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119184
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119222 in Ubuntu "rhythmbox doesn't find audio disk" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119222
[01:14] <dub> is there a problem with hald currently?
[01:14] <bdmurray> not that I know of could you elaborate?
[01:19] <dub> got some problems using usb->serial dongles, worked fine 'recently' unfer feisty
[01:19] <dub> http://dub.net.nz/hal
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119224 in xfsprogs (main) "xfs_admin gives "fatal error" when trying to label mounted device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119224
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119225 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119225
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119226 in Ubuntu "nautilus freezes when there is a 24x24 png in the home folder" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119226
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119229 in Ubuntu "evolution freezes and cannot open" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119229
[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119230 in hugin (universe) "Gutsy-hugin-autopano-complete failure" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119230
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119231 in alsa-driver (main) "Mic echo is ok, but no audio playback in Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119231
[02:50] <crimsun> what the
[03:07] <khermans__> Anyone know if Gutsy Tribe CD is built and good?
[03:08] <bdmurray> khermans__: yes, Tribe 1 was released
[03:08] <khermans__> bdmurray, cool i think i will upgrade from feisty then :-)
[03:09] <khermans__> what time was it built?
[03:10] <bdmurray> sometime this morning, however it is _very_ early in the release cycle
[03:10] <khermans__> bdmurray, i know
[03:10] <khermans__> bdmurray, i ran feisty for 4 months pre-release
[03:10] <khermans__> on amd64 mind you :-)
[03:10] <khermans__> with ndiswrapper!
[03:11] <bdmurray> cool, just wanted to make sure
[03:11] <bdmurray> it was announced on ubuntu-devel-announce
[03:11] <khermans__> i will be sure to report some bugs soon, th
[03:11] <khermans__> bdmurray, yeah ive been waiting since i knew the schedule when mark posted it
[03:12] <khermans__> go sabdfl
[03:16] <khermans__> bdmurray, should i be wary of upgrading on the fly via APT (rather than from tribe 1 cd) right now?
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119233 in Ubuntu "hard drive mount letters changed AGAIN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119233
[03:16] <khermans__> i mean, were any huge fixes popped in?
[03:17] <bdmurray> khermans__: not that I know of, aptitude is preferred over apt I beleive though
[03:17] <khermans__> bdmurray, well aptitude is a front-end for apt
[03:17] <khermans__> thats what i would be using
[03:19] <khermans__> here i go, dist-upgrade feisty->gutsy
[03:19] <bdmurray> good luck!
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119235 in upstart (main) "Rio Forge USB MP3 player only mounts if connected during boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119235
[03:21] <khermans__> ok there are some depends issues, but nothing i can see that is major (i hope)
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119234 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office Word Processor crashes when typing first word after taking several minutes to start up. (using LiveCD AMD64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119234
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119236 in Ubuntu "HP dv4150 notebook: no suspend or sleep in shutdown menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119236
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119240 in Ubuntu "UI inconsistency unmount vs eject" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119240
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119241 in debhelper (main) "dh_desktop should only call update-desktop-database if MimeType field exists " [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119241
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119242 in Ubuntu "Installer doesn't support WPA wireless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119242
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119243 in adept (main) "adept manager & license agreement issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119243
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119244 in Ubuntu "Wake-up from suspend not working, Thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119244
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119245 in Ubuntu "Live CD not working, thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119245
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119246 in Ubuntu "No working graphics after installation, thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119246
[04:26] <crimsun> err
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119247 in unison (universe) "Unison graphic mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119247
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119248 in apt (main) "feisty-updates not enabled by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119248
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119249 in nufw (universe) "Please merge nufw 2.2.0-2ubuntu1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119249
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119250 in amarok (main) "KAudioManagerPlay crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119250
[05:38] <persia> Do any python people around use pycrust?  I cannot replicate bug 119191 in gutsy, and suspect it belongs to pycrust rather than wxwidgets, but I'm not confident enough with python to be sure.
[05:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119191 in wxwidgets2.8 "PyCrust crashes when calling twice a wx.App constructor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119191
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119251 in software-properties (main) "software-properties-gtk should be eplaced by apt-spy backend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119251
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119252 in nexuiz (universe) "Please sync nexuiz (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119252
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119253 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "crash on 2.6.20-16.28" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119253
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119254 in kvm (universe) "Fails to create KVM context on linux-image-2.6.22-6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119254
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119255 in Ubuntu "gutsy tribe1 livecd doesn't boot on new macbook pro (santa rosa)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119255
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119256 in debian-installer (main) "Kubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) installation fails on Intel p965 chipset motherboards" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119256
[06:57] <ubotu> New bug: #119257 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes and or Firefox windows close." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119257
[06:57] <ubotu> New bug: #119258 in k3b (main) "K3B is freezing system AFTER burning DVD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119258
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119259 in Ubuntu "Numlock turns off at login and misses first keystroke" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119259
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119260 in exaile (universe) "exaile has started adding unwanted tracks to the playlist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119260
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119261 in Ubuntu "Splash screen, thinkpad z61m" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119261
[07:25] <Hobbsee> !logs
[07:25] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119262 in penguintv (universe) "New upstream release of PenguinTV, please update it for Ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119262
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119263 in kdeutils (main) "KGpg cannot select $HOME/.gnupg/gpg.conf" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119263
[08:01] <Admiral_Chicago> evening everyone.
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119266 in Ubuntu "Intel HDA Sound device doesn't work in gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119266
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119267 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "apport patches for CORE_REAL_RLIM and limit overriding do not work any more" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119267
[08:41] <dholbach> good morning
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there dholbach
[08:42] <dholbach> hi Admiral_Chicago
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: question: when there is a merge request Bug 119131 the appropriate tag is needs-packaging correct?
[08:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119131 in dbmail "Please Merge 2.2.5 from Debian Unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119131
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, there was a packaging tag, is that for packages built incorrectly?
[08:43] <dholbach> Admiral_Chicago: no, that's only for NEW packages - stuff we never had in the archive before
[08:43] <Hobbsee> there's an "upgrade" tag too iirc
[08:43] <dholbach> I think we have 'merge' for merges
[08:43] <dholbach> 'ftbfs' for stuff that does not build
[08:43] <dholbach> and 'upgrade' for package updates
[08:43] <Hobbsee> oh blerg
[08:43] <Hobbsee> bugs like that can just be rejected
[08:44] <Hobbsee> if they're not actually putting the work into doing the merge, we can find otu the "merge needed" bugs in other ways
[08:45] <Admiral_Chicago> so upgrade would be the appropriate response but it can be rejected?
[08:45] <dholbach> persia: rock on
[08:45] <dholbach> I'll triage some bugs and add tags later on
[08:46] <Hobbsee> dholbach: i'm wondering where people are getting the idea that we need them to say "hey, this needs merging"
[08:46] <Hobbsee> of course there's  alist.
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> let me check out Hobbsee's answer, there are some bugs like that which I have seen before
[08:46] <dholbach> Hobbsee: might be an old mergine howto
[08:46] <Hobbsee> new package upgrades are kinda differnet - but are often good to file in debian, especially for packages taht we dont touch
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i see 2.2.1 is in universe....
[08:47] <persia> Hobbsee: When rejecting these bugs, could you please encourage the reported to assign themselves if they are going to do the work?
[08:48] <persia> s/reported/reporter/
[08:48] <Hobbsee> persia: ther's an idea
[08:48] <Hobbsee> persia: i basically leave it alone unless they seem to be willing to do anything for it
[08:48] <persia> Hobbsee: My first ever merge was because someone commented on an upgrade request bug, and suggested what I should do :)
[08:48] <Hobbsee> ahhhh
[08:48] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> dholbach: may i PM you?
[08:53] <dholbach> sure
[08:56] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: he bites
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: i won't put my hands in the cage...
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> win 18
[08:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err..
[08:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119269 in firefox (main) "i can"t print from firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119269
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119270 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with AttributeError in get_version()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119270
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone point me to the correct kernels in each release
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> i've looked in the wiki pages...nothing.
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> i think the bot knows it ..this is to triage Bug 119233
[09:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119233 in Ubuntu "hard drive mount letters changed AGAIN" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119233
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> plus its likely a dup so i want to run bughelper on it...
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119271 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "MySQL relay logs are saved in volatile filesystem /var/run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119271
[09:21] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: check the LP pages
[09:21] <crimsun> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> crimsun: thanks thats what i needed
[09:23] <crimsun> np
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> one more question: the stacktrace for Bug 119201 doesn't seem to say anything relevant but some pointers (afaik) so what do we do about it?
[09:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119201 in vlc "[apport]  vlc crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119201
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119272 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "VIA Rhine doesn't have MMIO and NAPI enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119272
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> bug 98554
[09:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 98554 in beryl-core "All windows opacified in Feisty 7.04 using Beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98554
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> err...
[09:43] <Admiral_Chicago> bug 109550
[09:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109550 in beryl-core "Black/White/unrendered windows in Beryl " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109550
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119274 in sound-recorder (universe) "No sound capture, shivering volume control slider" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119274
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119275 in audacious (universe) "audacious-plugins-extra does not contain the adplug plugin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119275
[10:10] <pochu> asac, gnomefreak: do you remember the listen gtkembedmoz crash? Now we have a gdb backtrace!! Bug 116687
[10:10] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116687 in listen "[gutsy]  Listen crashes with segfault" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116687
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119277 in nautilus (main) "crash when right click+property on audio + video files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119277
[10:11] <asac> pochu: let me see
[10:14] <asac> pochu: can you look whats at "EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8c4b150, aAlreadyRealized=0xbfc78848) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:257" ?
[10:14] <asac> and maybe paste?
[10:16] <pochu> 0xb5002014 in EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8c4b150, aAlreadyRealized=0xbfc78848) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:257
[10:16] <pochu> 257	EmbedPrivate.cpp: No such file or directory.
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119278 in displayconfig-gtk (universe) "Tribe 1: IndexError: list index out of range" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119278
[10:16] <pochu> asac: how would I find it? ^ :)
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119280 in epydoc (main) "Please sync epydoc (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119280
[10:16] <pochu> asac: Maybe it's a missing dependency?
[10:19] <asac> pochu: the file is in firefox source tree
[10:20] <pochu> emilio@kiko:/usr/lib/firefox$ dpkg -L firefox | grep Embed
[10:20] <pochu> emilio@kiko:/usr/lib/firefox$
[10:20] <asac> pochu: its in the source tree
[10:20] <asac> apt-get source firefox ;)
[10:20] <pochu> Ah, ok :)
[10:21] <pochu> Sorry, I didn't know what you mean.
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119281 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed while downloading extra huge files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119281
[10:34] <pochu> asac: http://pastebin.ca/549944
[10:36] <asac> http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp#257
[10:36] <asac> is that the same line we have at 257?
[10:37] <asac> pochu: ah sorry i see :)
[10:38] <asac> pochu: can you try to attach a debugger and break somewhere in the proximity?
[10:40] <pochu> asac: Sorry, I don't know what you mean / how to do that.
[10:40] <pochu> If you explain it to me, I'll be glad to do it :)
[10:42] <dholbach> wiki page! :)
[10:42] <dholbach> MasteringGDB :)
[10:43] <pochu> dholbach: it's empty :)
[10:43] <dholbach> yeah, I mean it'd be nice to have it
[10:43] <asac> if it really crashes there, then there is something basic going wrong
[10:43] <dholbach> DebuggingProgramCrash is a good start already
[10:43] <dholbach> but it does not cover break points etc
[10:43] <dholbach> hey mvo
[10:43] <mvo> hey dholbach!
[10:44] <pochu> asac: Do you want me just to crash listen under gdb?
[10:45] <asac> pochu: at best set a break point ....
[10:46] <asac> (gdb) break EmbedPrivate.cpp:250 (some valid line before the crash)
[10:46] <asac> then run
[10:46] <pochu> Ok, let me try.
[10:46] <asac> once you got i breaking we can try to go on
[10:47] <asac> though its really basic scary stuff that fails :) ... lets hope
[10:48] <pochu> asac: I'm running gdb in mozilla/embedding/browser/gtk/src, then doing (gdb) break EmbedPrivate.cpp:250, but it says No symbol table is loaded.  Use the "file" command.
[10:48] <pochu> I don't know what I'm doing wrong
[10:49] <asac> pochu: lets start at the beginning
[10:49] <asac> how do you start?
[10:49] <pochu> gdb
[10:49] <pochu> (gdb) EmbedPrivate.cpp:250
[10:49] <pochu> Or do you want to crash listen?
[10:50] <asac> pochu: i think you are not doing right ... you have to be able to start listen in debugger
[10:50] <asac> just gdb
[10:50] <asac> will not bring you to that point
[10:51] <asac> pochu: is listen a python program?
[10:51] <pochu> Ok, I didn't undertand you, sorry :)
[10:51] <pochu> asac: yes, it is.
[10:51] <asac> pochu: if so it should all boil down to the question: "how can I start python in a debugger" ... which i have no answer to atm. but it should be possible
[10:52] <pochu> I think "gdb /usr/bin/python", "(gdb) /usr/bin/listen" will work. Let me try.
[10:54] <pochu> No, (gdb) /usr/lib/listen/listen.py, but then I have to run gdb setting the library path.
[10:56] <pochu> Yeah!!
[10:58] <pochu> asac: ok, listen crashed. Do I have to run any special command for that break thing, or is a bt and bt full ok?
[10:59] <asac> pochu: you have to set the break point before you start listen
[11:00] <pochu> asac: yeah, I set it.
[11:00] <asac> so did it crash ... or did it break?
[11:00] <pochu> (gdb) break EmbedPrivate.cpp:250
[11:00] <pochu> No source file named EmbedPrivate.cpp.
[11:00] <pochu> Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n] ) y
[11:00] <pochu> Breakpoint 1 (EmbedPrivate.cpp:250) pending.
[11:00] <asac> use line 251 ... 250 doesn't exist (please verify in current ffox source)
[11:01] <pochu> asac: gtk or photon?
[11:02] <asac> gtk
[11:02] <pochu> Right, it's a comment :)
[11:02] <pochu> Ok, let's try 251
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119283 in Ubuntu "Monitor not detected" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119283
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119285 in koffice-i18n (universe) "italian translations for krita seem to use obsolete translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119285
[11:06] <pochu> asac: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[11:06] <pochu> [Switching to Thread -1210201904 (LWP 9957)] 
[11:06] <pochu> 0xb4bdf014 in ?? () from /usr/lib/firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so
[11:06] <pochu> (gdb)
[11:06] <pochu> Nothing happens, using 251...
[11:06] <asac> hmm
[11:06] <asac> where does it crash now?
[11:07] <asac> still the same place?
[11:07] <pochu> But it didn't find it at the beggining...
[11:07] <pochu> No source file named EmbedPrivate.cpp.
[11:07] <pochu> Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n] ) y
[11:07] <asac> or somewhere different?
[11:07] <asac> pochu: that is usually not a problem
[11:07] <pochu> asac: yeah, when clicking on lyrics
[11:07] <asac> pochu: do you have dbgsym packages installed?
[11:07] <pochu> (wikipedia should be the same)
[11:07] <pochu> Ouch!
[11:07] <asac> pochu: no ... i mean where in backtrace?
[11:07] <pochu> :)
[11:07] <asac> not where in the application :)
[11:07] <pochu> asac: oh, yeah
[11:07] <pochu> 0xb4bdf014 in ?? () from /usr/lib/firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so
[11:08] <pochu> Are they still in pitti's repo?
[11:08] <pochu> !backtrace
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backtrace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <asac> pochu: they should be
[11:09] <persia> pochu: Yes.
[11:09] <pochu> Ok, thanks.
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119287 in zenity (main) "--day option no longer accepts 0 padded inputs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119287
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119289 in cupsys (main) "make backend invocation compatible to upstream" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119289
[11:20] <pochu> asac: yeah!
[11:20] <pochu> Breakpoint 2, EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8cf0808, aAlreadyRealized=0xbf8dbf38) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:251
[11:20] <pochu> 251       mNavigation = do_QueryInterface(webBrowser);
[11:20] <pochu> Current language:  auto; currently c++
[11:20] <pochu> (gdb)
[11:21] <asac> cool
[11:21] <asac> so what is in webBrowser?
[11:21] <asac> (gdb) print webBrowser
[11:21] <pochu> $1 = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x0}, <No data fields>}
[11:21] <asac> yeah as expected
[11:21] <asac> good news: its not an exploitable crash :-P
[11:22] <pochu> :)
[11:22] <pochu> and the bad news? :)
[11:22] <asac> it crashes :)
[11:22] <pochu> lol
[11:22] <asac> webBrowser is 0x0
[11:22] <asac> that means it has not been instantiated
[11:22] <asac> is webBrowser a method argument?
[11:23] <asac> please look in the source file and find out where webBrowser is ment to be set
[11:23] <asac> you can use the URL i provided
[11:23] <asac> as then you can just post links to specific code lines
[11:23] <asac> e.g. the http://lxr.mozi...
[11:24] <asac> pochu: oh
[11:24] <asac> sorry i messed up
[11:24] <asac> what is in mWindow?
[11:24] <pochu> $2 = (class EmbedWindow *) 0x9f65de0
[11:24] <asac> ok ... and in *mWindow (try to dereference)
[11:25] <pochu> try what? :)
[11:25] <asac> print *mWindow
[11:26] <asac> pochu: please no pm pastes :(
[11:26] <pochu> asac: /msg, it was a bit long, and I'm lazy to open pastebin :p
[11:26] <asac> k
[11:26] <pochu> asac: ok, sorry :)
[11:27] <asac> np
[11:28] <asac> ok ... try 'next'
[11:28] <asac> to step over that line
[11:28] <pochu> 731     ../../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h: No such file or directory.
[11:28] <pochu>         in ../../../../dist/include/xpcom/nsCOMPtr.h
[11:29] <asac> hmmm ... break EmbedPrivate.cpp:256
[11:29] <asac> then continue
[11:30] <pochu> Breakpoint 3, EmbedPrivate::Realize (this=0x8cf0808, aAlreadyRealized=0xbf8dbf38) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:256
[11:30] <pochu> 256       mSessionHistory = do_CreateInstance(NS_SHISTORY_CONTRACTID);
[11:30] <asac> ok
[11:30] <asac> what is in webBrowser now?
[11:30] <asac> is it properly set?
[11:30] <asac> and mNavigation?
[11:31] <asac> can you please post the dereferenced values to pastebin as well?
[11:31] <asac> http://pastebin.mozilla.org :)
[11:33] <pochu> asac: dereferenced == *something ?
[11:33] <asac> yeah
[11:33] <pochu> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86729
[11:34] <asac> pochu: yeah
[11:34] <asac> so you are at line 256?
[11:35] <pochu> yeah: Breakpoint 3 at 0xb4b6f000: file EmbedPrivate.cpp, line 256.
[11:35] <pochu> (gdb) continue
[11:35] <pochu> Then I did those prints.
[11:35] <asac> yes
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119290 in idjc (universe) "Please sync idjc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119290
[11:35] <asac> webBrowser appears not to be there
[11:36] <asac> can you set break point here:
[11:36] <asac> http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedPrivate.cpp#172
[11:36] <asac> and then rerun
[11:36] <asac> (e.g. just (gdb) run )
[11:37] <pochu> asac: start from the beggining?
[11:37] <asac> just add the breakpoint to line 172
[11:37] <asac> and run again (e.g. you just need to type run in gdb to restart)
[11:38] <pochu> The program being debugged has been started already.
[11:38] <pochu> Start it from the beginning? (y or n)
[11:38] <asac> y
[11:38] <pochu> ok
[11:39] <pochu> Breakpoint 4, EmbedPrivate::Init (this=0x8628518, aOwningWidget=0x8ba4060) at EmbedPrivate.cpp:172
[11:39] <pochu> 172       if (mOwningWidget)
[11:40] <pochu> brb
[11:46] <asac> mOwningWidget ... is that set?
[11:46] <asac> should be 0x0
[11:48] <asac> if so it would be intersting to see what mWindow is in line 183
[11:56] <pochu> $6 = (GtkMozEmbed *) 0x0
[11:56] <pochu> asac: do I start again with line 183?
[11:57] <asac> no you can "next" until you are at that line
[11:57] <asac> *or*
[11:57] <asac> you can set break 183
[11:57] <asac> then continue
[11:57] <asac> (as a gdb instruction)
[11:57] <pochu> Cool
[11:58] <asac> pochu: actually you don't need to type everything ... 'p' is 'print'; 'cont' for 'continue'; 'r' for 'run'
[11:58] <asac> i think 'n' is next
[11:59] <pochu> $7 = (class EmbedWindow *) 0x9be07e8
[12:02] <asac> ok please break http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/qt/src/EmbedWindow.cpp#106
[12:03] <asac> (which is where the webbrowser should be created)
[12:03] <asac> oh
[12:03] <asac> pochu: sorry
[12:03] <asac> thats QT :)
[12:03] <asac> http://lxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.8/source/embedding/browser/gtk/src/EmbedWindow.cpp#72
[12:03] <asac> thats the place for gtk
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119291 in thunderbird (main) "thunderbird 2.0 should use a local startpage" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119291
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119292 in Ubuntu "OS won't boot after installing from the LIVE CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119292
[12:10] <pochu> asac: hmm, I can't continue to it, it says The program no longer exists.
[12:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119293 in skencil (universe) "skencil segfault on startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119293
[12:10] <pochu> I've exited gdb and started again, but it stops at 257, instead of 72
[12:10] <asac> he?
[12:10] <asac> pochu: note its a different file
[12:11] <asac> its not EmbedPrivate.cpp ... but EmbedWindow.cpp
[12:11] <pochu> Oh, I see.
[12:13] <pochu> asac: ok, done. What should I look at?
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119294 in openssl (main) "OpenSSL should support VIA PadLock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119294
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119295 in openssh (main) "OpenSSH should support VIA PadLock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119295
[12:16] <pochu> (gdb) p webBrowser
[12:16] <pochu> No symbol "webBrowser" in current context.
[12:17] <pochu> (gdb) p mWebBrowser
[12:17] <pochu> $1 = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x0}, <No data fields>}
[12:19] <pochu> mvo: Bug #26436 :)
[12:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 26436 in firefox "gtkmozembed crashs with python" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/26436
[12:20] <mvo> first reported on 2005-12-01  by Michael Vogt ;)
[12:20] <pochu> mvo: But listen works pretty fine in Feisty
[12:20] <asac> pochu: where are you now?
[12:20] <pochu> asac: Breakpoint 2, EmbedWindow::Init (this=0x9f60da8, aOwner=0x8ba5540) at EmbedWindow.cpp:72
[12:20] <pochu> 72        mWebBrowser = do_CreateInstance(NS_WEBBROWSER_CONTRACTID);
[12:21] <asac> yeah ... see if mWebBrowser is created in 73 :)
[12:21] <asac> e.g. not 0x0
[12:21] <mvo> does it work now? I switched my code away from it a while ago because of this. it would be cool if it is back
[12:22] <pochu> mvo: but it's broken again in Gutsy :/
[12:22] <pochu> asac: the same :( $2 = {<nsCOMPtr_base> = {mRawPtr = 0x0}, <No data fields>}
[12:22] <mvo> uh, I see
[12:22] <asac> pochu: thats the reason then :) ... do you see anything on the console in that step (e.g. from 72 -> 73)?
[12:23] <pochu> Hmm, it goes to line 780 and 831, dunno if it's related
[12:23] <asac> in what file?
[12:24] <pochu> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/86736
[12:24] <asac> ah ... ignore the nsCOMPtr stuff
[12:25] <asac> pochu: actually the problem occurs in do_CreateInstance (line 72)
[12:25] <asac> i suspect that the XPCOM component for the webbrowser just cannot be resolved
[12:26] <asac> but we would need to step into the do_CreateInstance impl to see what really is going on
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119296 in Ubuntu "Backport request: libboost 1.34" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119296
[12:42] <pochu> asac: That's in firefox, right? ^
[12:42] <pochu> (the do_CreateInstance implementation)
[12:43] <asac> yeah ... its really deeply entrenched in xpcom
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119297 in texlive-lang (main) "package texlive-lang-italian failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119297
[12:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119299 in vbetool (main) "vbetool crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119299
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119300 in openoffice.org (main) "la procedura guidata nei formulari non funziona" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119300
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119302 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "no privilege to automount external usb drive/stick" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119302
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119303 in Ubuntu "Muine crashes when opening the song or album selector" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119303
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119305 in Ubuntu "webcam stops working once I install any sofware , update or restricted driver. The webcam is Vimicro301 Neptune" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119305
[01:42] <pochu> bdmurray: Can you review the HugDay announce? http://pastebin.ca/550290
[01:42] <pochu> dholbach: ^ I've put a couple of references to MOTU / packaging. WDYT?
[01:43] <pochu> dholbach: would you mind changing the topic to note the next HugDay? :)
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119306 in devscripts (main) "requestsync line 121: NameError: name 'changelog' is not defined" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119306
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119308 in Ubuntu "Gutsy shutdown doesn't" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119308
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119309 in Ubuntu "Gutsy CD Live shutdown can't remve CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119309
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119310 in Ubuntu "Gutsy shared folder doesn't on local LAN" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119310
[02:17] <dholbach> pochu: thanks for taking care of that
[02:19] <pochu> dholbach: np. What do you think about the announce? It's for UWN and The Fridge.
[02:19] <dholbach> pochu: better to let heno and bdmurray have a look
[02:20] <pochu> Sure thing, but is the Motu part ok? :)
[02:21] <Hobbsee> dude...what's with abusive people on bugtrackers?
[02:22] <dholbach> looks good
[02:22] <dholbach> Hobbsee: what do you mean?
[02:22] <Hobbsee> dholbach: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/52670
[02:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 52670 in kde-systemsettings "Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[02:22] <pochu> Cool. Will wait for bdmurray and heno's input :)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> dholbach: cimmo's constantly like this, on all bug reports.
[02:24] <dholbach> we have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#head-69ee66f34f5b9b84fa7a84823c8c4e4cc292da71
[02:24] <dholbach> to remind people of the CoC
[02:24] <dholbach> i found it helped in the past to remind that leaving the persons that would fix the bug in a bad mood would really not help to get it fixed any quicker
[02:25] <Hobbsee> ahh, useful
[02:26] <coNP> Mithrandir: do you think it is possible to get Openbox 3.4 into Gutsy? Should I file a request / prepare an update package or do you want to package it anyway for debian (and then we can sync from sid)?
[02:27] <dholbach> preparing a package update is probably most useful
[02:27] <dholbach> unless Mithrandir thinks differently?
[02:27] <coNP> okay, just because I was told some days ago to let Debian package it first ...
[02:28] <pochu> asac: re: listen crash, I'm afraid I can't look at that implemantation, but please let me know if I can be of any help with more debugging or something.
[02:28] <asac> pochu: yeah
[02:28] <Mithrandir> coNP: sure, I can do that.
[02:28] <coNP> heya pochu
[02:29] <asac> pochu: i suspect that the python script somehow eats stderr output
[02:29] <coNP> Mithrandir: thanks! :)
[02:29] <Mithrandir> coNP: actually, I think I'll ask somebody to adopt it in Debian, since I don't use Debian on the desktop any more.
[02:29] <asac> pochu: imo it cannot load some lib or something
[02:29] <coNP> I really *love* Openbox. And hug Mithrandir
[02:29] <asac> pochu: but we should see that in stderr
[02:29] <pochu> asac: do you mean it's likely a listen bug?
[02:29] <asac> pochu: please look if listen tweaks with stdout and stderr
[02:29] <asac> pochu: its most likely a listen bug
[02:30] <asac> pochu: or a pythonmozembed bug
[02:30] <asac> pochu: but i still miss the confirmation that listen is python at al?
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119312 in Ubuntu "Cannot move some files to trash on ntfs-3g volume" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119312
[02:31] <pochu> asac: It's python, right.
[02:31] <coNP> pochu: does your update-manager work now?
[02:31] <pochu> Though the mmkeys part isn't, at least.
[02:32] <pochu> coNP: I don't think so, I have to try cleaning the profile or something.
[02:32] <pochu> It's likely to be that.
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119313 in devscripts (main) "requestsync can't handle third parameter (basever) but advertises it in usage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119313
[02:39] <mvo> pochu: what is borken in update-manager`?
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119314 in gnome-system-tools (main) "[share-admin]  No path to change NFS/Samba configuration after first launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119314
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119315 in udev (main) "udevd hogs the processor and spams /var/log/messages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119315
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119316 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-kde crashed with UnboundLocalError in get_xorgdata()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119316
[02:46] <Hobbsee> dholbach: what suprises me is that the guy used to hang around #kubuntu-devel, so should hav ena idea of the way things work
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119317 in empathy (universe) "Please sync empathy (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119317
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119318 in Ubuntu "power manager insists batter is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119318
[03:03] <dholbach> Hobbsee: hm
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119321 in Ubuntu "Swap device UUID incorrect in /etc/fstab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119321
[03:28] <pochu> mvo: when I open it, I can see the updates and changelogs. But if I click on "Install updates", it hangs.
[03:29] <pochu> mvo: But not just update-manager. Then the menu doesn't work, the panel shortcuts...
[03:30] <pochu> But coNP tried to reproduce, and it doesn't help, and since there's no bug report, I guess it's just me.
[03:31] <DarkMageZ> pochu, feel lucky. some people can't even boot their gutsy systems
[03:33] <pochu> DarkMageZ: then ask them to file a bug ;)
[03:33] <DarkMageZ> i'm going to give one last thing a try before i ask for help with it
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119325 in Ubuntu "USB 2.0 transfer at very low speed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119325
[03:39] <mvo> pochu: that might be a gksu problem?
[03:40] <pochu> mvo: probably, since I've had other problems with gksu in the past (the screen didn't refresh unless a killall gksu)
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #119326 in Ubuntu "No hibernate nor sleep button in the quit menu of Gutsy Tribe-1 (dup-of: 118537)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119326
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119327 in gnome-terminal (main) "el gestor snaptic da errores y no instala nada, y a.adir y quitar que esta en el menu aplicaciones tampoco instala nada" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119327
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119329 in gnome-panel (main) "Can not configure higher display resolution and refresh rate" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119329
[03:53] <adolson> could I put a request for someone to look at bugs 95368, 91854 on the next hug day? I think it's the same problem in both bugs, so you can kill two birds with this one..
[03:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 95368 in hal "(feisty) unmounting a device icon on desktop gives an error dialog" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/95368
[03:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91854 in gnome-volume-manager "Cannot unmount volume: Cannot remove directory (dup-of: 85424)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91854
[03:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 85424 in sysvinit "Unmount fails every time " [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85424
[03:55] <adolson> that fix released, I don't believe, since I just installed feisty last night and the problem is still there.. but if the fix is out there, I would love to have it - I haven't found it yet
[03:59] <persia> adolson: Does the workaround posted by Nicolas_Raoul work for you?
[04:02] <adolson> deleting the hal table file? no.. I have it deleting the file at every bootup right now.. but it continues to occur
[04:03] <adolson> when I try to unmount this person's MP3 player, it appears to unmount and immediately re-mount, as it reopens the nautilus window on the device. this doesn't happen on my debian machine
[04:04] <persia> adolson: In that case, you might want to reopen the bug and post a comment with your hardware details and experience to let those who think it was fixed know that it doesn't work for you.
[04:10] <adolson> alright, well, I don't know what to do in the meantime.. I'm setting up someone's PC with Linux, and was hoping to give them Ubuntu, but this is a pretty big issue to them (they're pretty much computer novices in general). I guess my options are to use a different distro or tell them they can't use their MP3 player, and they will reinstall Windows
[04:11] <pochu> adolson: You can install Dapper, which is LTS, for example.
[04:12] <adolson> what's the difference? LTS means it's supported until 2008, right? and Feisty is supported until 2009? something like that. does LTS mean that issues with dapper will be resolved immediately?
[04:12] <pochu> I'm debugging a xqf crash with gdb, and when xqf crashes, the system hangs (I can move the mouse though, but nothing else works). I have to go to a VT and killall gdb. The gdb output says the crash was a SIGABRT. Is that supposed to hang the system?
[04:13] <adolson> and I can't remember my password for launchpad.. argh.. I think the ubuntu studio guys disabled my email account too.. great, this gets better and better
[04:13] <pochu> adolson: Well, it has less bugs, since those big bugs have been solved (it was released a year ago).
[04:14] <pochu> adolson: #launchpad for that. They might be able to help you.
[04:14] <pochu> Or #ubuntustudio even ;)
[04:15] <adolson> apparently I had my gmail address on there too
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #119331 in kdepim (main) "printing from kmail is broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119331
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119332 in pdns (universe) "PowerDNS crashes on heavy usage of its built-in web server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119332
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119333 in adept (main) "same that 55233" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119333
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119334 in hal (main) "libhal-dev package is missing libhal.la file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119334
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119335 in adept (main) "the same 55322 Adept cannot initialize KDE frontend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119335
[05:09] <Hobbsee> dholbach: argh, there are too many bugs.
[05:10] <coNP> kill'em all :)
[05:11] <dholbach> agreed
[05:11] <Hobbsee> i wish
[05:11] <coNP> there might be a CoC violation in killing bugs, however
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119336 in glchess (universe) "glChess crashes on Kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119336
[05:17] <adolson> 85424
[05:17] <dholbach> bug 85424
[05:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 85424 in hal "Unmount fails every time " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/85424
[05:17] <adolson> how come that bot didn't spit stuff out about bug 85424
[05:17] <dholbach> bug <number>
[05:18] <adolson> thanks daniel :D
[05:18] <adolson> I just wanted to see that I did it right, and the status is not fix released anymore
[05:18] <dholbach> right
[05:19] <adolson> it's been a while since I touched launchpad
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119337 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Unknown ethernet controller on Intel D63578-200 motherboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119337
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119338 in Ubuntu "No internet sites work (except for google and mozilla)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119338
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119339 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119339
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119307 in synaptic (main) "_cache->open() failed" [Wishlist,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119307
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119341 in xserver-xorg-video-vesa (main) "glxinfo command causes Xorg to abort on Dimension E520" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119341
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119344 in Ubuntu "Restricted drivers manager does not load fglrx module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119344
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119346 in gdesklets (universe) "gdesklets wont Start after update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119346
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #119343 in Ubuntu "Users-Admin and network-admin fail to work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119343
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119347 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Unknown ATI graphics controller on Dimension E520" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119347
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119349 in Ubuntu "can't update translation-id" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119349
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119350 in hal (main) "Sound Blaster X-Fi doesn't work and" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119350
[06:06] <gnomefreak> bdmurray: hide
[06:06] <gnomefreak> ;)
[06:11] <bdmurray> hmm, did I miss something?
[06:13] <pochu> bdmurray: 13:42 <     pochu> bdmurray: Can you review the HugDay announce? http://pastebin.ca/550290
[06:15] <bdmurray> pochu: adding something about Gutsy Tribe 1 being out would be nice
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119351 in udev (main) "udev 40-permissions.rules: wrong case in vendor string for Epson Perfection1200 scanner" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119351
[06:17] <bdmurray> \o/
[06:18] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i'm using the bad method, though
[06:25] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: argh...all these bugs make me want to bash something.
[06:26] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: look at the bug graphs though, we are holding steady
[06:26] <Hobbsee> not in kde....
[06:26] <Hobbsee> most bugs arent ours, and the interest isnt there upstream to fix them, as they're working on kde4, so will only do things which affect both
[06:29] <bdmurray> hmm, isn't it possible to run kde4 on gutsy / feisty?
[06:38] <pochu> bdmurray: http://pastebin.ca/551010, lines 11-13. re: tribe-1 :)
[06:39] <bdmurray> pochu: MOTU is universe and multiverse right?
[06:41] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: it's possible, doesnt work very well
[06:42] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: okay, I won't try it then. :)
[06:42] <pochu> bdmurray: yes, it is.
[06:42] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: s/HugDay/Hug Day/ usually
[06:42] <bdmurray> pochu: okay, I'll add that
[06:43] <pochu> bdmurray: hmm, maybe we should s/MOTU/developer/ or something?
[06:43] <pochu> bdmurray: cool :)
[06:46] <pochu> bdmurray: would you mind mailing fridge-devel@l.u.c, too? :)
[06:47] <pochu> So it gets announced in The Fridge.
[06:47] <bdmurray> pochu: okay, did you want to update uwn?
[06:48] <bdmurray> http://pastebin.ca/551028
[06:49] <pochu> bdmurray: looks good :)
[06:49] <pochu> bdmurray: gonna post it.
[06:50] <bdmurray> pochu: okay, thanks
[06:52] <pochu> bdmurray: do I also email fridge-devel, or are you going to do it?
[06:52] <bdmurray> pochu: I can do that
[06:53] <pochu> bdmurray: I'm thinking that if you mail that to any ML, I could paste the link at the wiki, as they are doing with every other article (to expand it later).
[06:54] <pochu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue44#head-858c864e6a3d4e034d01152b07c38b1d0dfbd2f7
[06:57] <bdmurray> pochu: I'd prefer to point people to the list of tasks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070613
[06:58] <pochu> bdmurray: well, the announce links to it, doesn't it? :)
[06:58] <pochu> bdmurray: I mean if you can announce it to ubuntu-bugsquad, and probably ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-devel-announce, as you did with the last Hug Day.
[06:59] <bdmurray> pochu: yes, I will do the e-mail announcement
[07:00] <bdmurray> pochu: I think I get it now, you'll link to mailing list posts?
[07:23] <pochu> bdmurray: yes, but the UWN editors will change it the text announcement. It's just for confort, I think
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119354 in xen-meta (universe) "2.6.20 xen image needed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119354
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119355 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon - No Sound and Poor Video - Intel 82801H " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119355
[07:42] <Hobbsee> bug 89606
[07:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 89606 in kdenetwork "kopete does not recognize logitech usb webcam" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89606
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119357 in Ubuntu "gtk? do not use proper display resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119357
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119359 in dar (universe) "Please sync dar (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119359
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119358 in thunderbird (main) "Weak default authentication mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119358
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119363 in gedit (main) "setting portrait paper layout behaves incorrectly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119363
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119364 in lvm2 (main) "lvm2 does not have mirroring enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119364
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119362 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Unknown Intel graphics controller on Intel D63578-200 motherboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119362
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119366 in totem (main) "totem need "SMB protocol source plugin"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119366
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119367 in mercurial (universe) "Bad tuple index in hg error handling" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119367
[08:23] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: ping
[08:23] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: pong
[08:23] <bdmurray> Have you seen a kde-guidance bug about bringing up battery applet and then display going dark?
[08:24] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i dont follow guidance, sorry.
[08:24] <Hobbsee> i havent seen a bug as such, no.
[08:24] <bdmurray> coNP: I'll find out about a lot of neat software from the bugs mailing list
[08:24] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: kde-guidance-powermanager would be the source package
[08:25] <Hobbsee> no, sorry
[08:25] <Hobbsee> kde-guidance still is
[08:25] <bdmurray> I've stupidly recreated the problem many a time
[08:26] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:26] <bdmurray> I think I mean to right click on the applet but accidently left click on it and then bam!
[08:27] <bdmurray> then I click the cancel button
[08:27] <bdmurray> because it is what I wanted to do
[08:27] <bdmurray> er, is not
[08:27] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:28] <Hobbsee> i found a really bad example of usability a few days ago
[08:28] <Hobbsee> where OK or cancel would normally be, they put "help"
[08:28] <bdmurray> that is different
[08:29] <Hobbsee> hehe, yes.
[08:29] <Hobbsee> i believe that sebas is the contact point for guidance
[08:29] <Hobbsee> or sime
[08:29] <Hobbsee> either of them
[08:29] <Hobbsee> howeve,r it's 4.30am - time for bed
[08:29] <Hobbsee> goodnight all
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119369 in kipi-plugins (main) "gallery 2.2  export does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119369
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119371 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Gibbon - Poor Video - Intel 82801H" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119371
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119370 in Ubuntu "Intel Xorg driver not detected when installing Gutsy Tribe-1 on an Intel GMCHB0ICHB0 motherboard" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119370
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119372 in Ubuntu "needs-packaging Enlightenment (E17)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119372
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119373 in audacious (universe) "Audacious crashes on opening an avi file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119373
[08:55] <RainCT> Hi
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119374 in Ubuntu "Gutsy Tribe 1 CD will not boot on Lenovo M55" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119374
[08:55] <RainCT> Bug #119220 can be rejected, or?
[08:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119220 in empathy "empathy: no launcher in the menu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119220
[08:57] <pochu> Hi RainCT. I don't think so, since the "workaround" is another bug ;)
[08:58] <pochu> RainCT: but I think dholbach takes care of that package, so you might want to ask him on Monday.
[08:58] <RainCT> pochu: but the other bug has this comment: "That's intentional, empathy is a desktop service just like gnome-network-manager and g-p-m and is started automatically with gnome-session. I should remove the quit option."
[08:59] <pochu> RainCT: In that case, empathy probably needs to be automatically started after installing it, without needing to call it.
[09:00] <pochu> There's probably no need for a menu item, though.
[09:02] <RainCT> ok, I've posted a comment asking him if it does start automatically after install
[09:02] <pochu> I think he's said it doesn't, hasn't he?
[09:03] <Kmos> pochu: can you test this one - http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5396
[09:03] <Kmos> *check
[09:04] <RainCT> pochu: I didn't understand so, he just said that there's no menu entry
[09:05] <pochu> RainCT: I see. Ok, then :)
[09:05] <pochu> Kmos: let me see.
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119375 in Ubuntu "the sysrem start and freezes in the three mn" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119375
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119376 in nvtv (universe) "Cannot start nvtv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119376
[09:10] <pochu> Kmos: btw, do you know that package is in Main?
[09:10] <pochu> Kmos: So would need a core-dev to upload it.
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119378 in firefox (main) "Deviantart Chat system disabled in FireFox 2.0.0.4" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119378
[09:26] <Kmos> pochu: yes i know
[09:27] <Kmos> pochu: but you can comment it.. if it's ok
[09:27] <Kmos> pitti doesn't have time to upload it
[09:28] <pochu> Kmos: well, I can't comment there, since I'm not a MOTU ;)
[09:29] <Kmos> :(
[09:29] <Kmos> thx anyway
[09:29] <pochu> Kmos: haven't you changed anything in the debian/ dir?
[09:29] <linnuxxy> hi
[09:30] <linnuxxy> I think there is a bug in the gfxboot of the livecd in rendering arabic/farisi text
[09:30] <pochu> Kmos: if not, it's easier to review, just checking it builds, install, and removes fine (and works)
[09:30] <Kmos> pochu: keescook is checking it
[09:31] <pochu> Cool :)
[09:31] <linnuxxy> I'm trying to customize an arabic edition of */ubuntu but I had this problem!
[09:34] <pochu> linnuxxy: have you checked whether it's reported in launchpad?
[09:34] <pochu> Also, what Ubuntu version is it?
[09:35] <linnuxxy> I tried it for 6.06, 6.10 and 7.04
[09:36] <linnuxxy> It could be tested easily from any Ubuntu LiveCD
[09:36] <linnuxxy> just but from the cd ...the first page press F2 and switch to arabic
[09:36] <linnuxxy> u will find the arabic text rendered incorrectly
[09:37] <linnuxxy> just boot**
[09:38] <linnuxxy> the font is loaded ok... but words are rendered in separate letters (instead of script ones) and in reverse direction
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119385 in sysklogd (main) "process `syslogd' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119385
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119387 in myodbc (universe) "libmyodbc doesn't set up driver" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119387
[09:58] <bdmurray> linnuxxy: do you have a picture?
[09:58] <linnuxxy> yes .. wait a min
[09:58] <linnuxxy> bdmurry: here http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot8fh2.png
[09:59] <linnuxxy> look to the text near of F2 Label
[10:00] <bdmurray> and you are saying it should be reversed?
[10:01] <linnuxxy> arabic is a scripting language ... letters is not separated like this
[10:02] <linnuxxy> it should be something like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/82/Arabic_Text.svg/400px-Arabic_Text.svg.png
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119388 in busybox (main) "problem to install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119388
[10:07] <bdmurray> linnuxxy: okay and you did not find an exisiting bug about this?
[10:08] <linnuxxy> not
[10:08] <linnuxxy> no.. didn't
[10:09] <bdmurray> could you file a new bug against casper? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+filebug
[10:10] <linnuxxy> I'm filling a one now
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119391 in gnome-panel (main) "error in source package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119391
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119389 in xenman (universe) "SSH problem with XenMan" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119389
[10:12] <bdmurray> linnuxxy: great, thanks for doing that
[10:14] <linnuxxy> its here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gfxboot/+bug/119393
[10:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119393 in gfxboot "gfxboot doesn't render Arabic text correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[10:16] <RainCT> Is it normal for shortcuts to be localized?
[10:16] <bdmurray> RainCT: could you elaborate?
[10:17] <RainCT> bdmurray: for example if the original shortcut for save is Ctrl + S, that it becomes Ctrl + G (save = 'Guardar') if you use the software in Catalan
[10:18] <bdmurray> RainCT: yes, that sounds right.  I recall seeing a bug about one before.
[10:18] <bdmurray> i.e. 2 shortcuts doing the same thing in a different language
[10:19] <pochu> RainCT: It's normal, and in case you think one is wrong, you should discuss it with the translation group (via mailing list, probably)
[10:19] <RainCT> okay
[10:19] <RainCT> thanks
[10:22] <davmor2> I have an issue with wireless in gutsy but am not sure if it is the driver or network manager is there anyway to lower the odds a bit.
[10:24] <bdmurray> what kind of issue?
[10:24] <bdmurray> you could try and statically configure the interface in /etc/network/interfaces then n-m will ignore it
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119392 in Ubuntu "Nautilus won't copy cd, closes unexpectedly at  'create disc image' progress bar window." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119392
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119393 in gfxboot (main) "gfxboot doesn't render Arabic text correctly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119393
[10:29] <davmor2> bdmurray: sorry for delay.  the issue is it will not connect unless you hit the wireless switch to turn it off and then back on.
[10:29] <bdmurray> what chipset that sounds familiar
[10:30] <davmor2> intel 3945 pro/wireles
[10:32] <bdmurray> hunh, that's what I have.
[10:33] <bdmurray> davmor2: can you wait a little bit?
[10:34] <davmor2> np
[10:34] <davmor2> I'm guessing it's an n-m thing
[10:35] <bdmurray> yeah, I forgot I'm not using n-m at the moment.  I'm checking mailing list though
[10:36] <davmor2> ta
[10:43] <pochu> asac: I'm getting "Were sorry, but we cant find what youre looking for." in the main page of the latest TB update (2.0.0.4-rc).
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119394 in Ubuntu "permission denied while automounting removable device" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119394
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119395 in ekiga (main) "Ekiga segfaults at startup on Feisty when Avahi is enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119395
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119396 in kdepim (main) "KMail skips some emails for gmail, will get them a week late" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119396
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119397 in gnome-power-manager (main) "wrong elapset time on gutsy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119397
[10:47] <bdmurray> I may have been thinking about 107636
[10:47] <davmor2> bug #107636
[10:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107636 in linux-source-2.6.20 "wifi adapter not resumed after hibernate" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107636
[10:51] <bdmurray> davmor2: or maybe bug 105420
[10:51] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105420 in linux-source-2.6.20 "both iwlwifi and ipw3945 are unable to turn off rf_kill" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105420
[10:51] <davmor2> bdmurray: not the first :(
[10:54] <davmor2> bdmurray: No that's not it either I think it might be a new bug but linked to the other two ish
[10:54] <bdmurray> davmor2: okay, do you see anything about the killswitch in dmesg?
[10:55] <davmor2> bdmurray: hangon
[10:58] <davmor2> bdmurray: yes killswitch is on it needs to be switched off
[10:59] <bdmurray> then it might be kernel related
[11:00] <davmor2> right
[11:00] <davmor2> it didn't happen in feisty only gutsy
[11:04] <davmor2> cheers I'll do a bug report
[11:04] <davmor2> tomorrow off now
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119400 in rss-glx (main) "rss-glx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119400
[11:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119401 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Unknown ethernet controller on Intel Bridgeport2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119401
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119403 in Ubuntu "cups lpd problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119403
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119404 in mapserver (universe) "cgi-mapserver won't serve rastercg images" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119404
[11:25] <QG> Hello everyone. How long does one need to wait for a response to a request for more info to help triage a bug before rejecting the bug due to no response from the original reporter?
[11:26] <bdmurray> QG: the standard is 4 weeks
[11:27] <QG> bdmurray: thank you.
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119407 in monsterz (universe) "monsterz game does not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119407
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119408 in kde-guidance (main) "[gutsy]  kde-guidance power manager causes screen to turn off" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119408
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119409 in initramfs-tools (main) "md assembly in initramfs does not allow initramfs to proceed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119409
[11:37] <pochu> bdmurray: still around?
[11:39] <bdmurray> indeed
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #119411 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins (universe) "Unmet dependency on libetpan10 & libsasl2" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119411
[11:41] <pochu> bdmurray: I won't be around tomorrow, so I'm gonna paste your announcement at the UWN wiki, so we don't loose it :)
[11:42] <saispo> hi
[11:42] <saispo> anyone see regression on gutsy with gnome-power-manager and maybe the kernel ?
[11:42] <bdmurray> pochu: oh yes, I thought we had agreed on that
[11:43] <bdmurray> saispo: I was just looking at bug 119397 dealing with something like that
[11:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119397 in gnome-power-manager "wrong elapset time on gutsy" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119397
[11:43] <pochu> I might have misunderstood you, but now we are OK ;)
[11:43] <bdmurray> okay, good thanks for your help
[11:43] <saispo> bdmurray: exactly
[11:43] <saispo> bdmurray: and on my Dell Laptop, Sleeping not working, only Hibernate. Before on feisty, all works
[11:44] <bdmurray> saispo: feel free to add the version of g-p-m you noticed it and confirm that bug
[11:44] <saispo> ok
[11:44] <bdmurray> saispo: sleeping should be a different bug report
[11:44] <saispo> yep, maybe on kernel ?
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119412 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  mac" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119412
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119414 in firefox (main) "firefox cant display a ie7 saved mht file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119414
[11:48] <saispo> bdmurray: i comment the first byg
[11:48] <saispo> s/byg/bug/
[11:48] <bdmurray> saispo: yes with the output of 'sudo lspci -vvn', 'dmesg' (after failing to sleep), 'uname -a' and 'dmidecode'
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119413 in kde-systemsettings (main) "Control Center in KDE not displaying complete options (Gutsy LiveCD Tribe1)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119413
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119415 in wpasupplicant (main) ""wpa-conf managed" appears no longer supported" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119415
[11:52] <saispo> bdmurray: ok, will report :)
[11:54] <bdmurray> saispo: great, thanks
[11:54] <bdmurray> let me know the number
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119406 in Ubuntu "Lock screen does not blank everything on dualhead" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119406
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119416 in kdepim (main) "Akregator does not open new window with javascript method" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119416
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119417 in Ubuntu "Pointer goes offscreen on non-rectangular dual-head" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119417
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119418 in firefox (main) "firefox linux versions cant handle a windows .url file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119418
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119419 in kid3 (universe) "Kids3 : needs update to new FLAC library" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119419
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119421 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Gnome splash screen stays on screen with power manager disabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119421
[12:03] <saispo> bdmurray: thanks to you :)
[12:03] <saispo> bdmurray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/119423
[12:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119423 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Suspend to RAM (Sleeping) not working on DELL Latitude D520" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 
[12:03] <saispo> exactly
[12:05] <pochu_> bdmurray: added :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue44