[12:31] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: hello
[12:34] <Pirate_Hunter> hi
[12:34] <Pirate_Hunter> well teach sensei
[12:35] <jrib> alright, what permissions do you want to give the drive?
[12:35] <jrib> everyone can read/write or just your user?
[12:35] <gty> howdy!
[12:35] <Pirate_Hunter> well the prob is that the drive has got all permission but I can't add folders to it
[12:35] <jrib> gty: hi
[12:35] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: ok, where is it mounted at the moment?
[12:36] <Pirate_Hunter> it can be accessed by everyone except im not the owner and I cnat make directories
[12:36] <Pirate_Hunter> /home/my folder/HD1
[12:36] <jrib> ok, what is the output of this command: ls -ld '/home/my folder/HD1'
[12:36] <Pirate_Hunter> going to check out
[12:37] <gty> it's lovely how linux has evolved...or the support i should say
[12:37] <Pirate_Hunter> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2007-06-07 19:28 /home/my folder/HD1
[12:37] <Pirate_Hunter> is that good or bad
[12:38] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: ok, you want to be the owner?
[12:38] <Pirate_Hunter> yup
[12:38] <jrib> what is your username?
[12:38] <Pirate_Hunter> i wnat to be able to organise directories inside the HD, I need to use the HD for university work
[12:38] <Pirate_Hunter> my name
[12:39] <Pirate_Hunter> lol
[12:39] <jrib> erm, ok
[12:39] <jrib> just do this:  sudo chown -R $USER: '/home/my folder/HD1'
[12:39] <jrib> the -R will make chown work recursively
[12:39] <Pirate_Hunter> going to do that right now dont go anywhere
[12:41] <Pirate_Hunter> nothing no message i
[12:41] <Pirate_Hunter> am I supposed to get a message??
[12:41] <jrib> nope
[12:42] <jrib> that means it ran successfully
[12:42] <Pirate_Hunter> man jrib youre goooooooooood
[12:42] <Pirate_Hunter> quick & straight to the point
[12:42] <Pirate_Hunter> the wikii complicates things
[12:43] <jrib> well the wiki is more general
[12:43] <Pirate_Hunter> & the information is sometimes irrelevant to what i need
[12:43] <Pirate_Hunter> goign to do the same for the second HD
[12:43] <Pirate_Hunter> question will a normal user (once they get added) will they be restricted on that drive
[12:44] <jrib> yes, a user other than your current one will not be able to write to that drive
[12:45] <Pirate_Hunter> kl thats what I wnated you to say man/female youre trully good hopefully I will be just like you - lol
[12:45] <jrib> note that other users can read it though
[12:46] <Pirate_Hunter> can I tranfer files form my HD with XP to Ubuntu and vice versa
[12:46] <jrib> yes, but you need to install an ext3 driver for XP
[12:46] <jrib> !ext3
[12:46] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:47] <Pirate_Hunter> if i download that i think its a program I will be able to transfer .doc files between both that way no need to restart
[12:48] <Pirate_Hunter> It only provides EXT2
[12:48] <jrib> you will be able to write to ext3, ext3 is just ext2 with a journal
[12:49] <jrib> <--- right here Pirate_Hunter
[12:49] <Pirate_Hunter> ok kl
[12:49] <Pirate_Hunter> yeah should be sold as a handheld electronic PC
[12:49] <Pirate_Hunter> youre too helpful
[12:50] <jrib> hmm
[12:50] <Pirate_Hunter> lol just my opinion
[12:50] <Pirate_Hunter> so once i download it save it into cd and run it in windows right?
[12:51] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: that works -- or just download it in windows
[12:52] <Pirate_Hunter> true i think since starting on linux ive gone computer ileterate
[12:52] <Pirate_Hunter> all the methods I know on windows dont work heer
[12:52] <Pirate_Hunter> the way the OS has been created is enginious
[12:53] <jrib> yeah, linux is a bit different but its very powerful if you aren't scared of learning how to use a computer all over again
[12:53] <Pirate_Hunter> yeha im not scared but after being heer in a while and reading what other ppl have done to mess up their comp it makes me wonder...
[12:54] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i setup a default music player
[12:54] <jrib> !default
[12:54] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[12:54] <Pirate_Hunter> juice keeps poping up and its annoying
[12:55] <jrib> if you're talking about what happens when you put in a cd, system > preferences > removable drives and media
[12:55] <Pirate_Hunter> nah its a music CDROm if i right click it dont give me those options
[12:56] <Pirate_Hunter> damn youre quick and beofre i asked
[12:56] <Pirate_Hunter> seriously you should be bought in shops
[12:57] <Pirate_Hunter> you wouldn't know how to get my printer to work
[12:57] <jrib> well that's pretty hit or miss, depends on the model.  If it's a friendly one, you should be able to use system > administration > printing.  If that doesn't work, then:
[12:57] <jrib> !print
[12:57] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:58] <Pirate_Hunter> I read those but they dont have my printer type
[12:58] <jrib> what printer?
[12:58] <Pirate_Hunter> it tells me to use propietary
[12:58] <Pirate_Hunter> canon i350
[01:00] <Pirate_Hunter> so is there a drive for my canon i350 printer
[01:01] <jrib> I can't really tell you anything more than what linuxprinting.org says
[01:02] <Pirate_Hunter> no prob, huh!! none of my floppies open in ubuntu
[01:02] <Pirate_Hunter> is this normal
[01:02] <jrib> never used a floppy on ubuntu, try #ubuntu
[01:03] <Pirate_Hunter> huh never used floppies watdheck am i the only one still using them
[01:03] <Pirate_Hunter> will do so
[01:03] <jrib> well I've used them, but not in the past decade :P
[01:03] <jrib> what do you use them for anyway?
[01:06] <Pirate_Hunter> just save doc files on the go when i dont know wheer my pen drive is
[01:06] <Pirate_Hunter> they come in handy
[01:07] <Pirate_Hunter> also helpful to flash windows, cmos etc
[01:07] <jrib> tape the pen drive to a floppy!
[01:08] <Pirate_Hunter> lol than there wouldnt be a need for the floppy
[01:09] <Pirate_Hunter> and windows can't boot from a pen drive... can it???
[01:11] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib i aint gonna take more of your time need to go to windows soon, go a deadline to meet by tomorrow so i cna get paid
[01:12] <Pirate_Hunter> tanx for the help, c you when ever im on
[01:12] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: alright, enjoy ubuntu and good luck with the floppy drive
[01:13] <Pirate_Hunter> no problem have a nice day/evening/night
[02:14] <Bearcat> Sanne: here
[02:14] <Sanne> :)
[02:15] <Sanne> ok, I'd like to give an overview first, so you knwo what to expect.
[02:15] <Bearcat> cool. by the way, i may be a stranger to kubuntu, but not linux.  I run sourcemage at home
[02:15] <Bearcat> but since this isn't my PC i am being more cautious
[02:16] <Sanne> The principle is: you will disable every online repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then add the upgrade cd-rom, then do the upgrade so that packages get only loaded from the cd.
[02:16] <Bearcat> ahh
[02:17] <Sanne> so not every instrucion on this page aplies, so we will do it step by step together.
[02:17] <Bearcat> i assume i need to do the 6.10 alternate cd then the 7.04 aternate cd (one at a time)?
[02:17] <n2diy> What are you folks upgrading from, to? I may want to keep a copy of this?
[02:17] <Bearcat> i.e. i have the 6.10 in the drive and mounted at /media/cdrom
[02:17] <Bearcat> n2diy:  i'm upgrading from 6.06
[02:18] <Sanne> n2diy: dapper->edgy->feisty kubuntu from cd (not over the web)
[02:18] <n2diy> Yep, I'll be keeping a copy of this then, gl.
[02:18] <Bearcat> n2diy: eyes on your own paper!  Cheat again and the teacher will give you an F :P
[02:18] <Sanne> hehe
[02:18] <n2diy> :)
[02:19] <Sanne> Bearcat: would it be ok to get *some* packages from the web, or can we only install from the cd right now?
[02:19] <Bearcat> this computer is on a 28.8k dialup connection so i want to get as much from the Cd as possible.
[02:19] <Bearcat> but yeah, i can grab some packages.
[02:20] <Sanne> disclaimer to Bearcat and n2diy: I never did that myself, but I think I can help with following the instructions on the page. For n2diy: this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual
[02:21] <Sanne> Bearcat: ok, then you can do instruction no 1 to make sure you have those packages.
[02:21] <n2diy> Sanne: roger that, I'll have a look at it.
[02:22] <Bearcat> Sanne: these are ubuntu packages..is this ok?
[02:22] <Sanne> Bearcat: yes, but wait a moment
[02:22] <Sanne> Bearcat: let's simulate the install, so we can see if you have them, and if not, how many packages would get installed *if* you needed.
[02:23] <Sanne> Bearcat: type: sudo apt-get -s install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard
[02:23] <Bearcat> both are the newest versions
[02:23] <Sanne> Bearcat: nice
[02:24] <Bearcat> (at least as of 6.06)
[02:24] <Sanne> Bearcat: now the next one, also simulate first: sudo apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop
[02:25] <Bearcat> same result
[02:25] <Sanne> Bearcat: very good. Now I'd like to see your /etc/apt/sources.list. Can you paste it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[02:25] <Bearcat> sure
[02:27] <Bearcat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24654/
[02:27] <Bearcat> sorry for the delay, pastebin accused me of being a spammer
[02:27] <Sanne> Bearcat: nasty pastebin! :)
[02:27] <Bearcat> indeed
[02:28] <Sanne> Bearcat: we will edit this file soon, so you may want to make a backup first.
[02:29] <n2diy> Bearcat: with your nick, I would have thought pastebing would have accused you of being a scanner. :)
[02:30] <n2diy> pastebing/pastebin
[02:30] <Bearcat> lol
[02:30] <Bearcat> ok, backed up
[02:30] <Bearcat> bearcat == another name for the panther family
[02:31] <n2diy> roger, I'm a ham radio op, so I have a few Bearcats.
[02:31] <Bearcat> nice!
[02:32] <Sanne> Bearcat: before we proceed, I think you're supposed to make sure you have an up to date system.
[02:32] <Bearcat> i do.
[02:32] <Sanne> ah, good
[02:33] <Bearcat> (but i'll verify again)
[02:34] <Bearcat> do i want to go into emacs and replace all "deb" with "#deb"?
[02:34] <Sanne> Bearcat: yes, that would be the first thing to do (was just typing it heh) :)
[02:34] <n2diy> Would the princibles here apply to a 5.10 upgrade also?
[02:35] <Sanne> n2diy: Yes, I think so, only when we will add edgy repositories, you would make them... what is it, dapper?
[02:35] <n2diy> roger on Dapper.
[02:36] <Bearcat> done
[02:36] <Bearcat> now i want the "sudo apt-cdrom add" ?
[02:36] <Sanne> Bearcat: yes, witht he edgy cd in the drive
[02:36] <Bearcat> yup
[02:37] <Bearcat> the instructions do not tell you to mount it, but i assume you have to
[02:37] <Sanne> Bearcat: no, I don't think you need to, try first without
[02:37] <Bearcat> oh
[02:37] <Bearcat> apparently not
[02:37] <Sanne> :)
[02:37] <Bearcat> it unmounts it and mounts it again
[02:37] <Bearcat> now it's scanning the disk
[02:38] <Sanne> that's a good sign
[02:39] <Bearcat> alright, now i'll do the next command: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[02:39] <Sanne> wait
[02:39] <Sanne> check your sources.list again if the cd got added, and if the deb lines are still commented.
[02:40] <Bearcat> yup~ looks good
[02:40] <Sanne> wait more, please
[02:41] <Sanne> now comes the actual upgrade. If something goes wrong, I might not be able to help with every problem (because I didn't do this myself). Is this ok with you?
[02:41] <Bearcat> sure
[02:41] <Sanne> :)
[02:41] <Sanne> Ok, then do the upgrade, no 5.
[02:41] <Bearcat> what is aptitude? That is on here. Do i want to use that line instead?
[02:42] <Sanne> it#s another front-end to apt, but I wouldn't recommend it right now because I'm not familiar with it.
[02:42] <Bearcat> gotcha.
[02:42] <Sanne> it handles updates a bit different regarding recommended packages
[02:44] <Bearcat> 25% done
[02:44] <Bearcat> Shit! It installed M$ Vista :P
[02:45] <Sanne> ROFL!
[02:45] <Bearcat> it says a few packages were held back, so i assume i have to do this again
[02:45] <n2diy> So we a are just using plain jane apt-get sans aptitude?
[02:45] <Bearcat> n2diy: yup
[02:46] <Sanne> Bearcat: I think that's what point 6 might be for?
[02:46] <Bearcat> right
[02:46] <Sanne> Ok, let's try
[02:46] <Bearcat> 95% done
[02:47] <Bearcat> extracting templates from packages 15% done
[02:48] <Sanne> Bearcat: *if* something goes wrong after reboot, do you have any live cd handy so you could come back for help?
[02:48] <Bearcat> yup (which i of course didn't bring with me :) but i only live 2 miles away
[02:48] <Sanne> Bearcat: heh, hopefully we won't need that then ;)
[02:49] <Bearcat> damn it i just slected uni2 instead of uni1 on the console language screen.
[02:49] <Bearcat> probably not a big deal
[02:50] <Bearcat> it's doing setups now
[02:50] <Sanne> Bearcat: do you knwo if the system has any restricted video driver installed? Nvidia or Ati?
[02:50] <Bearcat> i dont' think so..
[02:50] <Bearcat> checks
[02:50] <n2diy> Sanne:  on a box with a 28.8k modem?
[02:50] <Sanne> n2diy: why not?
[02:51] <n2diy> Sanne: yeh, ya never know?
[02:51] <Sanne> n2diy: I had before broadband. Offline gaming is also fun :)
[02:51] <Bearcat> Sanne: um..wow. This thing is using the via driver O.o
[02:53] <Sanne> Bearcat: so that's nothing to worry about, hopefully. But if the x server doesn't come up after boot, you can try to reconfigure it with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:54] <n2diy> This is sounding like #ubuntu. :)
[02:54] <Sanne> :)
[02:54] <Bearcat> *nods*
[02:57] <Sanne> Bearcat: do you think it will be busy long enough for me to have time to make a coffee?
[02:57] <Bearcat> well, at least it's faster then my beloved sourcemage
[02:57] <Bearcat> oh, yeah
[02:57] <Sanne> ok, brb :)
[03:04] <n2diy> Bearcat: how far along is the upgrade?
[03:05] <Sanne> Bearcat: back
[03:05] <Bearcat> doing setups now
[03:05] <Bearcat> i;m seeing a dew errors. It can't find the program opendir and it's screwed up fontconfig
[03:06] <Bearcat> Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
[03:06] <Sanne> hmm
[03:06] <Bearcat> i'll aptget for opendir hthen this is done
[03:06] <Sanne> ok
[03:12] <Bearcat> ok, apt-get can't find a package for opendir
[03:12] <Bearcat> and there were some errors at the end
[03:13] <Sanne> Bearcat: can you pastebin those?
[03:13] <Bearcat> nope
[03:13] <Bearcat> right now i can't create io-slaves
[03:14] <n2diy> There is a bug report that might relate to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla/+bug/108259
[03:14] <Bearcat> but i'll paste it here. it's only 8 lines
[03:14] <Sanne> o
[03:14] <Bearcat> i can't load it
[03:14] <Sanne> ok
[03:14] <n2diy> It relates to erros upgrading edgy to feisty.
[03:14] <Bearcat> i wonder if i shoudl try installed firefox for the moment
[03:14] <n2diy> erros/errors
[03:14] <Bearcat> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:14] <Bearcat>  debtags
[03:14] <Bearcat>  adept-common
[03:14] <Bearcat>  adept-manager
[03:14] <Bearcat>  adept-installer
[03:14] <Bearcat>  adept-updater
[03:14] <Bearcat>  adept-notifier
[03:14] <Bearcat>  adept-batch
[03:15] <Bearcat>  adept
[03:15] <Bearcat>  language-selector-qt
[03:15] <Bearcat> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:15] <Bearcat> well, i'll try the rest of these steps and see where they take me
[03:15] <Sanne> Bearcat: which step of no 6 was the last you did?
[03:16] <Bearcat> i just completed no 5
[03:16] <Bearcat> i havent' done no 6 yet
[03:16] <Sanne> ah, ok, then yes, try the rest.
[03:17] <Bearcat> ok, fixed those
[03:17] <Sanne> yay!
[03:18] <Bearcat> ok, if i do the first line of no  6 i see: The following packages have been kept back:
[03:18] <Bearcat>   gcj-4.1-base gij-4.1 initscripts kde-guidance libgcj-common python-crypto
[03:18] <Bearcat>   python-kde3 python-qt3 ubuntu-minimal xserver-xorg-core
[03:18] <Bearcat>   xserver-xorg-input-elographics xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[03:18] <Bearcat>   xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
[03:18] <Bearcat>   xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[03:18] <Bearcat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
[03:19] <Sanne> hmmm, some of those seem pretty important.
[03:19] <Bearcat> um..yeah
[03:19] <Bearcat> i'm not sure what "kept back" means.
[03:19] <Bearcat> i mean i know what those packages are.
[03:19] <Sanne> it means those didn't get upgraded
[03:20] <Bearcat> and i don't know where to find this "opendir" program
[03:20] <Sanne> I tried to find info on opendir but so far found nothing
[03:20] <Sanne> what happens if you do again: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:22] <Bearcat> *tries it*
[03:22] <Bearcat> same thing
[03:23] <Bearcat> how about i try step no 5 again?
[03:23] <Sanne> By the way, if somebody in this channel follows us and has any advice for us, please don't hesitate to jump in.
[03:24] <n2diy> Sanne: Bearcat: I'm googling.
[03:24] <Bearcat> well, i'm gonna try step no 5 again and see if that does anything
[03:24] <Sanne> Bearcat: step 5 is the same as the first of step 6 ;)
[03:24] <Sanne> but go ahead
[03:24] <Bearcat> oh....duh
[03:24] <Sanne> Bearcat: hm?
[03:25] <Sanne> ah!
[03:25] <Sanne> Bearcat: line 2 of step 6 is also supposed to clear up inconsistencies, so that would be next in any case, I guess.
[03:27] <Bearcat> nothing changed still 15 held back
[03:27] <Bearcat> at this point i'm temped to reboot
[03:27] <Sanne> no, not yet
[03:28] <Bearcat> perhaps an ldconfig ?
[03:28] <Sanne> I think the last line of 6 might be important, let me find out what it does
[03:28] <Bearcat> *nods*
[03:29] <Sanne> Bearcat:
[03:29] <Sanne> Reconfigure an unpacked package.  If -a or  --pending  is  given
[03:29] <Sanne>               instead  of  package, all unpacked but unconfigured packages are
[03:29] <Sanne>               configured.
[03:29] <Bearcat> *nods*
[03:29] <Sanne> That's what it does, so I don't think it will help the kept back packages, but it shouldn't hurt either
[03:29] <Bearcat> hmm
[03:30] <Bearcat> good 'cause i did it :)
[03:30] <Bearcat> well it says that some packages will fail no matter what, but usually you dont' want thsoe to be xorg packages
[03:30] <Sanne> Bearcat: at this point I would like you to ask in #kubuntu, I'll paste the relevant lines to the pastebin and give you the link. Ok?
[03:30] <Bearcat> thanks
[03:32] <Sanne> Bearcat: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24659/
[03:33] <Sanne> I will be following in #kubuntu
[03:33] <Bearcat> thanks
[03:34] <Sanne> :)
[03:34] <Bearcat> i was hopig i could do this in a hour and then go home
[03:35] <Sanne> Ooo
[03:35] <Sanne> :)
[03:35] <Sanne> Btw, I'm a "she"
[03:35] <Bearcat> oh,
[03:35] <Bearcat> excuse me
[03:35] <Sanne> no problem, just so you know :)
[03:35] <Bearcat> that's cool. There arent' nearly enough of you in this linux world
[03:36] <Sanne> right
[03:37] <Bearcat> if i decide to reboot to a live CD, i will then remove the CDrom line and go through this process again with 7.10 and see what happends. I have a feeling it can't get more broken. :)
[03:37] <Bearcat> at worst i can move /home to it's own partion (why isnt' it on it's own partition to start with?) and reinstall.
[03:38] <Sanne> Bearcat: proncipally ok, but I always hear that a system must be up to date for a dist upgrade. But to get edgy upgrades from the net might be too much, so, yeah.
[03:39] <Sanne> Bearcat: I would definitely make a /home partition
[03:39] <Sanne> In fact, that's what I also will need to do if I want to have feisty. I might go the reinstall route with backed up home.
[03:41] <Bearcat> so i can't upgrade to fiesty without a home partition?
[03:41] <Sanne> you can, but I meant it's a good idea to have it backed up, like you said :)
[03:42] <Sanne> if you reinstall, you can make a list of all installed packages now if you want, to find out what needs to be installed separately.
[03:44] <Sanne> You can make a file with all packages installed like this: COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l > dapper-packages.txt
[03:44] <n2diy> I gotta go, but I'll check the channel here when i get back, hopefully everything will be 10-4 then.
[03:44] <Sanne> n2diy: thanks, bye :)
[03:47] <Sanne> Bearcat: what is the output of: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core | grep ^ii
[03:47] <Bearcat> thanks
[03:48] <Bearcat> Sanne: then how would i use that file to install?
[03:48] <Sanne> Bearcat: you don't, that's only onformative. But there's a proper way for automation, let me find out.
[03:49] <Bearcat> the output of "dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core | grep ^ii" is ii  xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.6 X.Org X server -- core server
[03:50] <Sanne> hmm, then I can't understand why it's kept back, because the edgy version is indeed higher (1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12)
[03:52] <Bearcat> well at this point, i'm tempted to just reboot and cross my fingers
[03:53] <Bearcat> most of that is device drivers (though the initscripts) concerns me
[03:54] <Sanne> just one moment, I soon have the command to make a proper packages file
[03:55] <Bearcat> thanks
[03:58] <Sanne> Ok, I don't understand all, so you might not do it blindly, but you might want to make the two backup files ina any case. What exactly to do with them would need some reseach, then. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:58] <Bearcat> heh. i cant' see that.
[03:59] <Bearcat> i have no ko-slaves for browsing
[03:59] <Bearcat> in konqueror
[03:59] <Sanne> the problem is that there are packages on hold now, that state shouldn't be restored, I think
[03:59] <Sanne> oh
[03:59] <Sanne> yes, I forgot :)
[03:59] <Sanne> can you write down this link for later? I tell you what to do now.
[04:00] <Bearcat> well, if i reboot (and can get to at least rl 3) i can try upgrading to fiesty
[04:00] <Bearcat> sure. got it
[04:00] <Bearcat> what link
[04:00] <Sanne> ok, make two files: 1: debconf-get-selections > debconf.cfg    2: dpkg --get-selections \* >myselections
[04:01] <Sanne> Bearcat: the link was false, this is the correct one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24662/
[04:02] <Sanne> Bearcat: there are instructions I found how to restore the packages from those two files you just made
[04:02] <Bearcat> debconf-get-selections: command not found
[04:02] <Sanne> then make at least the secons file
[04:02] <Sanne> second
[04:03] <Bearcat> got it
[04:04] <Bearcat> alright, shall i reboot now?  If so shall i try the edgy update again and if that fails, try the fiesty?
[04:05] <Bearcat> what do i have to loose really?
[04:05] <Sanne> I think so, and if all else fials, backup /home and install feisty. But: it's very late here by now, I guess I will have to go to bed soon.
[04:05] <Bearcat> thakn you very much for the help Sanne. Sleep well
[04:06] <Sanne> I hope you will be able to make the upgrade. I will stay here for some minutes and see if you rebooted successfully. :)
[04:06] <Bearcat> thanks. See you in a few. i hope.
[04:06] <Sanne> :)
[05:56] <n2diy> Bearcat, Sanne, you folks finished?
[09:16] <kushal06062007> do you teach us how to use ubuntu?
[09:26] <nalioth> kushal06062007: look in the /topic
[09:26] <nalioth> er, never mind, somebody has changed the topic
[09:26] <kushal06062007> Nalioth:
[09:36] <kushal06062007> I will go the the links first.
[09:51] <kushal06062007> /Time