[12:38] <Lipe_> hi, I'm thinking in buying a new laptop I I need to find out if the GPU is ok with feisty, can anybody help me?
[12:57] <jbrett> Lipe_: Intel GPU+++, NVidia GPU+ ATI GPU--
[12:57] <jbrett> I think that pretty much summs it up :o)
[12:58] <jbrett> s/mm/m/
[12:58] <Lipe_> LOL, But delll in latin america only sells middle range laptops with  256MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON x1400 HyperMemory (256ATI)
[01:00] <jbrett> Lipe_: you can get it to work with the fglrx driver, but you'll likely have to use the text installer, and you won't easily be able to use compiz/beryl bling.
[01:12] <Lipe_> jbrett: hmmm... I have seen that working... I think I will look for other manufacturer :)
[01:13] <jbrett> Lipe_: you can get it to work, but since the fglrx driver doesn't support the texture_from_pixmap extension, you have to do it under glx, which is more difficult to get going.
[01:14] <jbrett> s/glx/xgl/
[01:14] <jbrett> feh, I must be tired..
[01:22] <movi> or you could buy a Macbook (not pro)
[01:27] <jbrett> I thought macbooks had ati gpus too.
[01:27] <movi> macbook pro used to
[01:28] <movi> normal macbooks (the white and black ones) have Intel GMA950
[01:28] <movi> the newest macbook pros with LED backlight have 8600GT
[01:28] <Lipe_> jbrett: yes, but... I don't want to spend time making something works... I wan't to buy something that you install the OS and forget about it.
[01:28] <movi> and the older macbook pro have X1600Pro (which obviously anyone linux-centered should NOT buy)
[01:29] <movi> Lipe_, youll get that with a macbook
[01:29] <movi> every piece of hardware is open sourced in macbook
[01:29] <movi> graphics is intel gma950 - open. sound is intel hda realtek - open
[01:29] <movi> wifi is atheros - open
[01:29] <Lipe_> movi: I not a "mac person".
[01:29] <movi> youre gonna be using linux, so whats the difference? ;] 
[01:29] <jbrett> yeah, generally anything with intel graphics will "just work", unless you want a large dual-monitor desktop.
[01:30] <jbrett> then you're gonna want nvidia.
[01:30] <movi> jbrett, even with dual-monitor it works here after X restart. using gutsy and the new intel driver with new X.org makes this "problem" go away too
[01:30] <Lipe_> jbrett: I have large dual-monitor in my desktop with nvidia. (and I love that)
[01:31] <jbrett> movi: intel hardware is limited to 7-bit addressing -- if you want 3d accel, you're limited to a 2048x2048 total desktop size.
[01:32] <movi> jbrett, i wasnt aware of that - i dont have that big of a processor
[01:32] <movi> err
[01:32] <movi> monitor
[01:32] <Lipe_> movi: I'm downloading the tribe1 as we speak to test "if that's true".
[01:32] <movi> the most i could have is 1024x800+1024x1024
[01:33] <jbrett> well, if you have two monitors, it doesn't take very big to surpass 2048.
[01:33] <jbrett> movi: so you squeaked in just under the line :o)
[01:33] <jbrett> movi: if you get a 1280x1024 or 1600x1200 external monitor, you're screwed :o)
[01:34] <movi> guess so, i use the video out only for projectors. for big monitors, i have my desktop with a 6600GT
[01:35] <jbrett> movi: oh, you're fine then.  You can mirror your display on a larger monitor.  You just can't have a *desktop* bigger than 2048^2
[01:35] <movi> yeah i know:)
[01:36] <jbrett> I just can't do a xinerama-esque extension of my desktop onto it.
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[10:17] <kensho> hi