[12:43] its weird how far around the net we made it [12:43] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mythbuntu-MythTV-Ubuntu-Openbox-56625.shtml [12:43] softpedia? [12:43] and they even did more screenshots [12:43] noticed that.. was quite impressed [12:44] somebody must have submitted that [12:44] owww... more have been added since i looked [12:44] this is the kind of stuff i was scared of though, all these other sites are overadvertising [12:45] yep [12:45] and not litsing that its alpha [12:45] and that things are broek [12:45] *broke [12:45] I blame Daviey putting it on the planet [12:45] bah.. i was following orders [12:45] haha [12:45] i blamed superm1_ for declaring it an alpha :) [12:45] i blamed er.... [12:45] i blame sabdfl for forking debian [12:46] softpedia are evening mirroring the iso [12:46] i think we wanted 500 max alpha testers :0 [12:47] i think i know what to do to solve this issue of fixing bugs right after release of an alpha [12:47] for the next one [12:47] until the final release, during the openbox startup [12:47] have an automatic sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y [12:47] because the env is pretty stable, its just a lot of openbox and other packages that change [12:48] sounds good [12:48] superm1_: didn't i say that 30 mins ago? === superm1_ scrolls up his history [12:49] (that was early this morning, maybe more now) [12:49] that was 30 mins ago [12:49] i had an idea.. 'check latest' and if plausiable apt-get upgrade on livecd ? :) [12:49] ah 17:12 [12:49] 23:12 < Daviey> i had an idea.. 'check latest' and if plausiable apt-get upgrade on livecd ? :) [12:49] 23:12 < Daviey> i had an idea.. 'check latest' and if plausiable apt-get upgrade on livecd ? :) [12:49] Daviey, how did i miss that [12:49] very good idea [12:50] :s [12:50] that will most definitely help [12:50] all good providing offical repo's don't suddenly have a huge upgrade [12:50] would kill livesession [12:50] dog walkies brb [01:04] I would like to change / symlink recording/video/galley to: [01:04] /myth [01:04] /myth/gallery [01:04] /myth/video [01:04] etc [01:04] seems good [01:04] its not LSB [01:04] /myth/config as well [01:05] LSB? [01:05] Linux Standards Base [01:05] LSB? [01:05] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base [01:05] /media/myth/.... then [01:05] Still not LSB [01:05] that was my original plan [01:05] /mnt/ [01:05] or /home/myth/... [01:06] LSB says that it should be in /var [01:06] /mnt surely is LSB [01:06] or /home/myth/media [01:06] hmm.. when did /media become LSB anyway? [01:06] superm1 the recordings should be in /var [01:07] ? [01:07] Yup [01:07] thats where the default directory is right now [01:07] but a symlink to /myth would be fine? [01:07] so everything stays as is; with the adding of /myth linking everywhere [01:07] we'll have to poke around about that [01:08] i like that idea if it is LSB compat [01:08] might cause confusion during install [01:08] true; but just having a symlink shouldn't be a problem imo [01:10] I really think we need an accessible location that brings everything all together [01:10] /myth is easy to remember [01:11] anyway night all [01:11] night DaveMorris [01:11] nn DaveMorris [01:12] I think if we write shell scripts that do all these new features.. we can then find ways of porting it into a proper way [01:12] well even doing them as shell scripts is hard to manage in ubiquity [01:13] the hardware detection heuristic i'm planning for video detection is going to be this [01:13] I don't think ubiquity can/should do everything we're planning [01:13] lshw -C video | grep vendor | cut -b 16- [01:13] something to that effect [01:13] well the post install stuff no [01:13] like the mythbuntu control centre stuff no [01:13] WARNING: you should run this program as super-user. [01:13] ATI Technologies Inc [01:13] ATI Technologies Inc [01:14] nvidia cards spit out "nVidia Corporation" [01:14] so that works with ATI's [01:14] wow surprised i got the cut number right [01:14] that was just offhand [01:14] heh [01:14] Make sure it works with two cards [01:14] and i dont know what happens with third party cards [01:14] like a Saphire ATI Radeon [01:14] or something [01:14] if the vendor still identifies as ATI [01:15] hmm.. i thought my FE was intel.. turns out it is "nVidia Corporation" [01:15] do you get two outputs? [01:15] ah i remember, it's onboard is intel [01:15] ah [01:16] do you have a /sys/class/drm? [01:16] on your ATI [01:17] it'd be better to prove from /sys [01:17] if possible [01:17] heh.. pegasus outputs "Intel Corporation" [01:17] no drm [01:18] well for now lshw will do the trick [01:18] along with a sed script to switch vesa to ati or nvidia [01:18] i thikn that a lot of it will be handled perfectly by a shell script [01:18] hmm.. why do you need to know the graphics card anyway? [01:19] to install proprietary drivers [01:19] and enable TV Out [01:19] erm.. we don't necessarily need fglrx etc [01:19] most cards support non 3d rendering [01:20] oh for TV out.. didn't think of that [01:20] yea you cant do it with open source drivers [01:20] at all? [01:20] not with ati or nvidia cards no [01:20] didn't know that.. [01:20] there are some experimental ati patches [01:20] that can do it on some r200 cards [01:20] but thats it [01:20] bear in mind that proprietary drivers don't support old cards [01:21] making the checkbox not selected by defualt [01:21] cool [01:21] DaveMorris, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NTgyMg [01:21] Daviey, [01:21] i meant [01:21] go win yourself one [01:21] trouble with being in ubiquity; can''t access when users realise they do _need_ non-free [01:22] superm1_: i'd love to - but won't cover airfare [01:22] oh its cheap, we're just a hop skip and a jump away [01:22] :) [01:22] so i'll see you at lugradio live? [01:22] :P [01:23] well i've got work and all.... [01:23] and this class just started... [01:23] Me, DaveMorris, Juski and Jono will be there [01:23] wow [01:23] excuses excuses [01:23] mostly i dont have my passport [01:23] *a pasport [01:23] *a passport [01:23] man cant type today [01:23] I'm sure the US can process them faster than here [01:24] if not buy one from your local drug dealer :) [01:24] and on top of that i have some citizenship issues [01:24] with italy [01:24] Talking of passports.. need to get my daughter one before summer rush [01:24] which is why i've put off getting it for a while [01:24] where you born in US? [01:24] yes [01:24] but i'm first generation === Daviey is confused [01:25] and inherited from my dad and mom their citizenships [01:25] so i've got it in 3 countries [01:25] i thought if you were born in a country then you get automatic citizenship [01:25] right [01:25] so i have US [01:25] the problem comes that italy sent me letters requesting me to go for the draft [01:25] and i havent figured out how to handle yet [01:26] Well.. my mother recently got canadian citizenship - her father died when very young. She's only been to canada twice [01:26] i was thinking of trying to get citizenship through her [01:26] might want to live in canada one day [01:26] superm1_: draft = national service? [01:26] that'd be pretty neat [01:26] yes [01:26] geez [01:27] surely your fine whilst in fulltime education [01:27] well but i'm done in .5 year [01:27] ah [01:27] so things can get pretty messy [01:27] i have to go to the italian consulate in chicago when i get a chance [01:27] and talk to them about it [01:27] If i were younger i'd love to have done national service [01:27] before getting my passport made [01:27] why? [01:27] fun methinks [01:28] thought about joining the reserved forces recently === superm1_ thinks Daviey has an odd definition of fun [01:28] joining now? [01:29] with all this stuff going on in the middle east? [01:29] is that a good idea [01:40] heh.. maybe wait :) [01:41] we're 1 digg from 1k === Daviey contemplates signing up under a diff email addy [01:45] we've hit 1000 [01:45] nice [01:45] was it you? [01:45] or someone else? === Daviey blushes [01:46] haha [01:46] it was bugging me [01:46] anyway.. i should go to bed [01:46] ok [01:46] nn [01:46] ctach you tommorow evening (my time) [01:46] won't be about during the day, working offsite [01:46] ah [01:46] ok [01:46] ttfn === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883_@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:40] Help!! [02:41] for some reason, when I'm trying to watch a show it is playing back at what seems to be 3x normal time....super fast, but the timestretch is set to 1x [02:41] can someone help me figure this out please? === rogue780|mythsrv [n=rogue780@c-68-55-176-33.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:00] anybody out there? [03:03] just because I restarted the computer, I shall restate my question [03:03] I've got a frontend where when I watch anything it plays it super super fast (about 3x). This happened a few days after I reloaded the server. When I run mythfrontend on another computer, it is fine. I can't figure out what is wrong. the timestretch is set to 1x. can someone please help me? [03:28] well I got my problem fixed...I turned on deinterlacing and open gl syncing thing,...now it works. [04:33] hey rogue780|mythsrv [04:33] just got back [04:33] you figured it out? [04:40] yeah [04:40] k good :) [04:40] still don't know why...but turning on opengl sync thingy did the trick [04:40] turning *on*? [04:40] interesting [04:41] usually the other way around [04:44] yeahm turning on. I didn't try it at first because I've had negative experiences with that before. but whatevr [04:44] well good :) [04:45] rogue780|mythsrv, you gonna be around for a little? [04:45] i wanted to get an opinion on a gtk theme [04:45] that i'm thinking of putting as the main one in mythbuntu [04:46] sure [04:46] k give me a few minutes to rebuild ubiquity and get into the live env and i'll show you [04:46] I'm staying up late tonight as I am trying to adjust to a night schedule again [04:47] er actually i can just take it in my regular env [04:47] no use going into the vm [04:48] http://www.mythbuntu.org/~supermario/mythbuntu/new_gtk_theme.png [04:49] given the dark look of mythbuntu's boot, i thought it might go well [04:50] I quite like it [04:50] its quite a drastic change [04:50] so i wasnt sure what people would think [04:52] well I like it [04:53] awesome thats two +1s so far [04:53] i'll add it to the build script then [05:06] this is totally off topic, but since most of us do virtual machines (and for the few of us on 64-bit). Virtualbox now works on AMD64. http://virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads [05:06] wow really... [05:06] I've hated vmplayer since i had to switch from virtualbox [05:06] yep [05:06] does it do it 32 bit emulating 64? [05:06] hmm [05:06] not sure about that [05:07] i always heard that doing that is possible, but it would be so slow that it isn't feasible [05:07] good point [05:08] anyway, just thought I would pass on the news, back to watching my movie [05:08] okay thx tgm4883_laptop :) === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FB02.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:12] heya superm1 [09:12] Hey Seveas [09:13] @config channel plugins.Bugtracker.bugreporter mythtv [09:13] OK [09:13] bug 99925 [09:13] Launchpad bug 99925 in mythtv "mythfrontend should use the eject command not myth's eject function" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99925 [09:13] ok, from now on new bugs should be reported :) [09:14] there is always something odd about someone talking to a bot and it responding OK :) [09:14] thanks Seveas [09:14] de nada [09:14] so ubugtu doesn't join, ubotu handles it all? [09:15] ubugtu doesn't live anymore [09:15] ah === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:30] New bug: #119055 in mythbuntu "mythbuntu crashes on first installation" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119055 === jono_ [n=jono@88-107-87-242.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:01] re [04:07] re ? [04:07] "i'm back" [04:09] be back later, I need to disable this NIC for some testing === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.180.55] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === spoky99 [n=spoky99@85-18-47-196.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:29] hi all [05:41] hi === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === mythtv [n=mythtv@cpe-68-173-24-51.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:59] hey all [06:00] i have a quick question [06:01] i want to transfer a video from my cable box to my new install of mythtv [06:01] i was thinking that i would need to do this over the composite cable [06:01] then you'll need a card which can take composite in and convert it to mpeg2/3 [06:02] I think the 350 Hauupage card can do it [06:02] i have a pvr 500 [06:03] but i dont know how to tell mythtv to read the video from something other than the tuner [06:03] looks like it can do it, however I don't know how its done. Try poping into #mythtv-users [06:04] i'll give that a try dave [06:04] thank [06:04] The pvr 500 have the s-video input like the pvr 150 and the pvr 350 [06:05] my pvr has s video as well [06:05] i just dont know how to tell mythtv to look or read the video from the s video or the composite [06:07] I'm newbie in mythtv, but i see that you could set the s-video and composite imput in the mythtv-setup [06:09] you make the same thing for the first installation to set the tv input of your pvr 500 [06:09] (excuse my bad english) [06:15] you would have to set that up in mythtv-setup [06:15] as a capture device [06:16] lol, looks like i should finish reading the convo before trying to help [06:17] i'm on the mythtv-setup [06:18] trying to configure both inputs for composite === kamikaye [n=alin@p5B15BF4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1_ [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:18] to if i can view the video coming from my dvd player [06:18] popey: Daviey, DaveMorris, 11GB of mythbuntu seeded so far === jetsaredim [n=jgreenwa@inet-netcache3-o.oracle.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:19] well once you have the composite setup in mythtv-setup it should work. although im not sure where that would translate to in the frontend [06:20] superm1 you around? [06:20] i dont know about superm1, but superm1_ just joined [06:20] superm1_, is [06:21] when you were calling dpkg-reconfigure [06:21] jetsaredim, I attempted with fixing the db problem for a while last night (and consequently got into work late this morning) [06:21] I setup the capture card (default input Composite 1) [06:21] but i still dont see anything [06:21] did you by chance use the -fnoninteractive option? [06:21] i keep getting an error message before leaving setup telling me that i need to setup the channel to 3 [06:22] jetsaredim, I exported DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive [06:22] prior to running the command [06:22] hmm [06:22] do you think it wasnt using that env variable though? [06:22] possible [06:23] :( the mythtv wiki is no help [06:23] jetsaredim, if you want to toy with a little, go for it. i updated the branch to my progress last night [06:23] mythtv: I know that is a stupid question.. did you connect the output of the DVD whith the input of the pvr 500? === kamikaye [n=alin@p5B15BF4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [06:24] ok [06:24] jetsaredim, here is the current mythbuntu-apply if you want to see where its at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu/annotate/supermario%40portablemario-20070608090633-bifs2hzon915ramz?file_id=mythbuntuapply-20070604011359-297hq8jxjkyfitp2-2 [06:24] mythtv: if you use the s-video.. not all the connector are good [06:24] i'll re-download [06:24] the branch? [06:24] atm things crash with a ubiquity back trace [06:24] if you awnt to look before bzr updates ^ [06:25] i filed a bug on it, bug 119352 [06:25] Launchpad bug 119352 in mythbuntu "Ubiquity can't handle copying over database" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119352 [06:25] so spoky99, subscribe to that bug [06:25] New bug: #119352 in mythbuntu "Ubiquity can't handle copying over database" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119352 [06:25] mythtv, make sure it works outside of mythtv first [06:25] use something like tvtime [06:26] yea saw the bug email [06:26] mythtv: some s-video cnnetor are make for input other for output and is not easy understand if work or not.. I buy a lot of kable that don't work :) [06:26] so right now during the install it crashes [06:26] ubotu, should have reported it here. weird that it didn't. Seveas, any idea why ubotu didnt? [06:26] oh it just did. nvm [06:26] just slow [06:27] superm1: i read your answers, I finally understand what you write (is only my bad english speak and read) :D [06:28] spoky99, ts just proving to be a tough bug to fix, so that will be the easiest way to find out when it is :) [06:31] This morning (now is 6.29 PM) I tried one other installation using the english language and front-end and backend instalaltion but.. don't work, I also tried make one apt-get upgrade.. but don't work,, after this two tried.. I understand your message in the bug :D [06:32] It make me an other error message.. but I'dont open a new bug [06:33] superm1 just had an idea. Can we ask the user when they are setting up a backend if they have a mysql database they wish to import [06:33] I think that I retry to install starting for a ubuntu base instalaltion following the how to.. === spoky99_ [n=spoky99@85-18-47-196.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:36] setting the mysql database... is not easy.. i make 4 installation the first whit fedora the second whit ubuntu, one whith debian etch, and no one of these are going well, In the last try I install phpmyadmin for try of understad the problem [06:37] DaveMorris, something similar to migration assistant [06:37] the only taht work well is mythfedora, but I know a bit debian and ubuntu and fedora is not easy [06:39] is not easy set the correct user, password and permission for make work mythtv well, [06:40] a lot of think are set automatically and is not easy understand how correct the problem [06:41] one problem for me is.. understand the english documentation.. this is a complicated understand in my language.. in eglish is more complicated too [06:41] :D [06:45] by! my whife wait me :) [06:45] see you next-time [06:46] superm1_: what branch are things in? [06:46] jetsaredim, the one described here https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu [06:46] ok [06:47] just wanted to make sure that was the right place [06:47] laga, ping [06:47] not some private user branch or something [06:47] na i do all my work public [06:50] pong [06:50] laga, do you know how to setup a vcs-import for 0.20-fixes [06:50] superm1_: no, i never worked with launchpad like that :( [06:51] because persia taught me yesterday how to build a new .orig.tar.gz from a bzr branch [06:51] and it's really sweet [06:51] ? === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [06:53] laga, take a look here: http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/mythbuntu-gdm-theme-0706080440/mythbuntu-gdm-theme-0.1/debian/rules [06:57] jetsaredim, for building a lot of our source packages, the upstream source can be defined in bzr [06:58] rather than a normal release area [06:58] makes building some things rather convenient [06:59] ah === kamikaye [n=alin@p5B15BF4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === kamikaye [n=alin@p5B15BF4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:10] ello people [07:10] Hows mythbuntu coming today? [07:11] does anyone have a pvr 500 configure with mythtv? [07:12] i'm trying to use the composite or s-video inputs to record some things from my VHS but i can get this to work [07:12] any suggestion [07:12] i'm assuming i'm must be doing something wrong under the setup [07:12] i just can figure out what [07:12] can you even watch it on those inputs? [07:12] before you bother recording? [07:12] do you get any signal at all? [07:12] no i dont see anything at all [07:13] and if you hook that same cable up to the tv you see something? [07:13] i tried connecting my laptop to the s-video, my cable box, dvd player [07:13] but i cant get any display other than tuner 1 [07:13] did you add the svideo input as a signal? [07:14] probably not since i dont understand the question [07:14] in the mythtv setup app [07:15] i did [07:15] there is a screen to setup the input selection [07:16] under the setup [07:16] i have the following [07:17] capture card i selected 2 [07:17] one for /dev/video0 the other for /dev/video1 [07:18] for the default input for both i check off s-video [07:18] s-video 1 for /dev/video0 and s-video 2 for /dev/video1 [07:18] i only created one video source for my cable provider [07:19] under input connections i have a few right now but i started with one === outlier [n=tom@70.141.147.180] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:20] were you able to get the cable signal to come through? [07:20] (i guess this is where a few things are unclear to me) if you have multiple connection source to input [07:20] how does the frontend know which it will display [07:21] i can get the cable signal in tuner 1 only [07:21] but not for s-video or composite [07:26] your probably best off deleting all of your inputs and then just adding the one svideo that you're trying to get working === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.180.55] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:09] keescook, Hi, would you be able to do a follow up revu on that gdm theme you revu'd before? Per persia's suggestions, its no longer a debian native package, he tought me how to make it build the .org.tar.gz from a bzr branch instead [09:09] (which I really want to move the mythtv packaging to doing - its really nice) [09:09] aaah [09:09] keescook, the revu URL is http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5419 [09:09] superm1_: so, do you want to import the mythtv fixes brnach into launchpad to build packages from it? [09:09] yes [09:10] i want to have the debian/* on a bzr branch [09:10] and the -fixes on a bzr branch [09:10]