[12:01] <Monteh> ive tried things like noapic, nolapic and such
[12:01] <omegacenti> Jowi: Another possible solution is to somehow come across that new intel-video-xorg driver 2.0 that is talked about. But I don't know if it has been released or not. Also, Xorg 7.3 server would also help as it is bundled with it, but 7.3 is still under development (not sure if there is a beta)
[12:01] <mEck0> Is it possible to insert recurring tasks in Planner (project management)?
[12:01] <piratenin> Can anyone tell me how to create a drive letter for my cdrom for wine?
[12:01] <Shrdlu> Hey all, quick question - does anyone have the correct MD5 sum for ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[12:01] <Jowi> omegacenti, it is available
[12:02] <Jowi> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:02] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-intel: X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9.94-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 183 kB, installed size 492 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)
[12:02] <omegacenti> Jowi: that would probably immediately fix my problems.
[12:02] <SlimG> Monteh: mention my nick when writing or else I will most probably miss your messages, SlimG: <message>
[12:02] <Monteh> oh
[12:02] <Monteh> okie
[12:02] <Monteh> ^^
[12:02] <john_> test - hi
[12:02] <Jowi> omegacenti, see above. simply install it and change "i810" to "intel" in xorg.conf
[12:02] <omegacenti> Jowi: wait... not sure if that is the right one.
[12:02] <SlimG> Monteh: When the installer hangs, press Alt+F1 and see the diagnostics on what the computer fails on
[12:03] <carolyn_> argh!! all i need to do is get this ISO from my ubuntu partition to another computer with a dvd burner that's on my network and i can't
[12:03] <ubuntu__> no way to repair kernels with missing modules?
[12:03] <omegacenti> Jowi: you serious?
[12:03] <Jowi> omegacenti, only that one and i810 available for our cards
[12:03] <Monteh> SlimG: okies :D
[12:03] <Danux> hey, i'm having a nightmare getting a wireless card to work with ubuntu... in general how good is wireless networking on 64-bit 7.04?
[12:03] <Monteh> ill go do that ^^
[12:03] <omegacenti> Jowi:  how to I install..
[12:03] <Jowi> omegacenti, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:03] <pascal> is there any way to notify a program when the computer is going into hibernation?
[12:03] <Tarkus> does anyone know what would cause my nautilus to start going very slow? it takes a long time to opena browser window and to browse my files. any idea how i can reset the settings so that it will be fast like it was before?
[12:03] <amorphous_> is there any way to hide my admin account in the gnome-fast-user-switcher applet?
[12:04] <Monteh> SlimG: will ubuntu resize ntfs partitions to install on, or does it need fat32?
[12:04] <Jowi> omegacenti, I tried that driver and for my card it hasn't changed a thing, so I went back to i810. try it if you want
[12:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Are there pre-made policies for firestarter
[12:04] <SlimG> Monteh: Ubuntu needs to create its own Linux partition (ext2/3)
[12:05] <piratenin> Create a drive letter for your cdrom if you have not already. For each cdrom drive letter, click advanced, and set the drive type from automatic to cdrom. You *MUST* have a drive letter before installing.
[12:05] <omegacenti> Jowi: everyone yesterday couldn't even hint at this possible solution and pretty much offerend no help. Jowi, from the depths of my consciousness, Thankyou. You are a kind and supportive person in regards to me. I am in your debt.
[12:05] <piratenin> Where am I supposed to click advanced?
[12:05] <piratenin> Create a drive letter for your cdrom if you have not already. For each cdrom drive letter, click advanced, and set the drive type from automatic to cdrom. You *MUST* have a drive letter before installing.
[12:05] <SlimG> Monteh: so you should delete some partitions to make room for Ubuntu's new partitions
[12:06] <omegacenti> Jowi: It is installed as of right now. Should I now change i810 to intel?
[12:06] <Jowi> omegacenti, no probs. I had nothing better to do anyway. and I remembered struggling with my 915resolution prob
[12:06] <avalon_> I'm having a problem with my DVD Burner. Everytime I try to burn ISOs, I get the error  WRITE@LBA=730h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]  and it ejects. What gives?
[12:06] <Jowi> omegacenti, yeah. hopefully you get a screen hehe
[12:06] <Monteh> SlimG: so if my hd is 1 windows partition, then i need to backup and start again?
[12:07] <Pirate_Hunter> No monteh
[12:07] <Tarkus> does anyone know what would cause my nautilus to start going very slow? it takes a long time to open a browser window and to browse my files. any idea how i can reset the settings so that it will be fast like it was before?
[12:07] <omegacenti> Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24643/
[12:07] <Pirate_Hunter> use gparted to create your partition
[12:07] <Jowi> omegacenti, that's it
[12:07] <omegacenti> how do you add to your notify list?
[12:08] <SlimG> Monteh: You should try to resize your current partition to make room for Ubuntu partitions, This could be done with Hiren's BootCD 9.0 (you'll find it on torrent sites)
[12:08] <amorphous_> that a 'no' then? (on ways to hide my admin account from the list in fast_user_switcher_applet_thing... :(
[12:08] <olrrai> hello
[12:08] <ekimus> hi, in search for a nullmailer for dapper that does smtp auth and is tls capable. any hints?
[12:08] <Monteh> right, ok Pirate_Hunter, and slimg, first ill find out why it wont boot into the live cd, and go from there
[12:08] <omegacenti> Jowi: How do you add a name to your notify list?
[12:08] <Jowi> omegacenti, I'm not following
[12:08] <kdoto> omegacenti: you mean in Xchat?
[12:08] <omegacenti> Jowi: Also, do I need to reboot or restart X?
[12:09] <SlimG> Monteh: ok
[12:09] <Jowi> omegacenti, restart xorg is enough
[12:09] <omegacenti> kdoto: in Konversation
[12:09] <Ahadiel> Monteh: Did you check Bios boot settings?
[12:09] <chrismhampson> Nickserv IDENTIFY hampson4
[12:09] <omegacenti> Jowi: I will be right back
[12:09] <Ahadiel> Monteh: Sometimes the 1st boot option in HDD
[12:09] <Pirate_Hunter> Monteh you could do what slimg just said but I found it easier with gparted and no need for torrent (its free anyway), burn it to CD and use it at boot than its straight forward
[12:09] <omegacenti> kdoto: I will be right back
[12:09] <Pirate_Hunter> kk Monteh
[12:09] <Monteh> Ahadiel the dvd will boot, just not past the startup menu
[12:10] <Monteh> *dvd startup menu
[12:10] <Ahadiel> Monteh: Ubuntu DVD? O_O
[12:10] <Monteh> yeah.
[12:10] <omegacenti> YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:10] <omegacenti> Jowi: IT WORKED!
[12:10] <Monteh> urr..
[12:10] <avalon_>  I'm having a problem with my DVD Burner. Everytime I try to burn ISOs, I get the error  WRITE@LBA=730h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]  and it ejects. What gives?
[12:10] <chrismhampson> ok, I'll about to delete ubuntu and install pclinuxos because this uk keyboard issue is driving me insane. Does anyone know a fix to the broken pound sign issue?
[12:10] <Ahadiel> Monteh: What speed did you burn it at?
[12:10] <kdoto> omegacenti: Settings->Configure notifications
[12:10] <Jowi> omegacenti, pure luck haha
[12:10] <Monteh> 16x >.>
[12:10] <omegacenti> Jowi: I now have ALL resolutions I want! HAHA!
[12:10] <astronouth7303> I need the coretemp kernel module for lm-sensors to work with my proc, but it only seems to be available from the online git tree. How would I go about installing it?
[12:10] <Monteh> well 10x
[12:10] <Pirate_Hunter> Someoen tell me that soemoen out there loves me and they have create a download manger for linux cause if they ahven't I will be shocked
[12:10] <bruenig> omegacenti, calm down
[12:10] <Ahadiel> Monteh: I've heard (Never happened to me) that you're supposed to burn at a slow speed for boot discs
[12:11] <Ahadiel> I think it's false, but you may want to try it.
[12:11] <Jowi> omegacenti, why are you still here then? off playing diablo2 with you ;)
[12:11] <omegacenti> bruenig: I apologize, but this problem has been lamenting me for weeks.
[12:11] <SlimG> Monteh: Have you booted the DVD and pressed Alt+F1 now?
[12:11] <Monteh> all no id have to restart the pc im on to do that >.>
[12:11] <Monteh> ill go do it now
[12:11] <Monteh> ^^
[12:11] <omegacenti> Jowi: Anything within reason you ever need, just let me know.
[12:12] <SlimG> Monteh: remember to mention the receivers nick when sending messages
[12:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Someone tell me that someone out there loves me and they have created a download manager for ubuntu cause if they haven't I will be shocked
[12:12] <bruenig> Pirate_Hunter, wget
[12:12] <Monteh> SlimG: sorry im terrible at remembering stuff ~.~
[12:12] <Monteh> brb
[12:12] <Jowi> sure thing omegacenti but I am volunteering for the good cause and because canonical gave me a super OS for free
[12:12] <iqon> Pirate_Hunter: wget -c
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> wget works on ubuntu is there another one which is better
[12:13] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: no way, wget is at the top
[12:13] <bruenig> Pirate_Hunter, there is not one that is better, no
[12:13] <bruenig> it would be hard to make one better than that
[12:13] <zoidberg> hey guys i have Badger installed on a G3 powebook pismo
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> kk sorry im still used to wind XP
[12:13] <zoidberg> it has a s-video out...how do i access it and make it work?
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> This si like my second day using ubuntu
[12:14] <Pirate_Hunter> take it easy on me
[12:14] <omegacenti> Jowi: Hmm, it seems I still have a problem. Even though the option shows up. I clicked it, it restarted X, but I am in a resolution that I know is not 640x480... Any easy way to test what resolution I am actually in? (might the OS be reporting it wrong)
[12:14] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/11/top-6-download-manager-for-ubuntu-edgy-eft
[12:14] <paladinhugo> Pirate_Hunter: you can try axel
[12:14] <zoidberg> can anyone hellp me?
[12:14] <zoidberg> how do u enable s-video out on badger for PPC?
[12:15] <Pirate_Hunter> simg going to try that
[12:15] <omegacenti> !justask
[12:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:16] <zoidberg> can anyone help me?
[12:16] <Taime1> My Sound suddenly stopped working... how do i get it back? or where do i start to find the problem?
[12:16] <Pirate_Hunter> I'm looking for a download manager with GUI interface as i have no clue how to use scripts or the terminal
[12:16] <Jowi> omegacenti, comment out the vertrefresh or add back the horizsync again. you need to experiment with that one on your own
[12:16] <Pirate_Hunter> Wget doesn't have an interface
[12:16] <hmdl> hi guys, I have a little problem, I cant set my Ubuntu to establish ppp0 as the default route gateway at startup
[12:17] <omegacenti> Jowi: thanks for pointing me in a direction :)
[12:17] <paladinhugo> Pirate_Hunter: the terminal is on applications > acessories
[12:17] <omegacenti> Jowi: Are you using a laptop with similar dimensions>
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> I know I cna't use it yet
[12:17] <bruenig> Pirate_Hunter, you should make an effort to learn, it is very very helpful
[12:17] <bruenig> !cli | Pirate_Hunter
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> I don't know the commands so I'm sticking to GUI
[12:17] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:17] <Jowi> omegacenti, not at all. intel mac mini with the 945GM intel card using the same driver.
[12:17] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: Did you look at the list I gave you? Aria d4x gwget kget
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> bruen ive been doing this for four days and it is too much
[12:17] <bruenig> Pirate_Hunter, 90% of the advice given in here will be terminal based so at least get some basics
[12:18] <omegacenti> Jowi: size of screen/ type?
[12:18] <bintrue|work>  Question regarding sources.list and private apt-servers... can the components be named anything? eg. is  deb http://<name>/ubuntu breezy 7600 a valid sources.list entry?
[12:18] <hmdl> hi guys, I have a little problem, I cant set my Ubuntu to establish ppp0 as the default route gateway at startup, because the command "route add default gw Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" needs an IP, and my ADSL connection is dynamic
[12:18] <Taime1> How can I get my sound working again on my laptop?
[12:18] <Pirate_Hunter> slim I did an dwent to the site at elast wget site
[12:18] <paladinhugo> Taime1: did the sound stop woring globally?
[12:18] <Taime1> paladinhugo: yes
[12:18] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: could you refrase that?
[12:18] <Jowi> omegacenti, cheapo BenQ T705 17" @ 1280x1024. cheap screen but it never tires my eyes (unlike the IBM screen at work)
[12:19] <olrrai> any port /ip scanner ?
[12:19] <misfit> does anybody have issues viewing flash videos in ubuntu?
[12:19] <paladinhugo> right click on the sound icon near the clock and choose open volume control
[12:19] <rbs-tito> misfit: What issues?
[12:19] <paladinhugo> check if domething is in mute
[12:19] <pike_> hmdl: nmap-fe is a gui front to nmap.
[12:19] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: There's even a DM extension for Firefox if thats the browser of youre choice
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> misfit: every so often, i'll have 1 or two sites that will play audio only, other than that, no.
[12:19] <omegacenti> Jowi: I was somehow trying to see if I could use your horizontal sync rate :)
[12:19] <Taime1> paladinhugo: i have done all of the basic checks
[12:19] <pike_> hmdl: nm wrong nick
[12:19] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: FlashGot
[12:19] <hmdl> oh
[12:19] <Pirate_Hunter> slim yeah I could but i bet you kinda understood what I said I'm still going through the list
[12:20] <rbs-tito> misfit: Firefox should download and install Flash automatically. The only problem i get is audio can be slightly out of sync.
[12:20] <Jowi> omegacenti, I don't use one. I forced my vertrefresh to 60 though.
[12:20] <hmdl> well im gonna ask again
[12:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Slim your my buddy flashgot I completely forgot about that
[12:20] <hmdl> hi guys, I have a little problem, I cant set my Ubuntu to establish ppp0 as the default route gateway at startup, because the command "route add default gw Ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" needs an IP, and my ADSL connection is dynamic
[12:20] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: No I honestly didn't, but now I did
[12:20] <Jowi> omegacenti, all LCD screens are compatible with 60
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: i don't think firefox installs flash automatically, matter of fact, i'm almost sure it doesn't
[12:20] <omegacenti> Jowi: is it lcd? is it tft? Would that hurt mine?
[12:20] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: Nice to hear
[12:20] <SlimG> Pirate_Hunter: :)
[12:20] <Jowi> omegacenti, you can definetley use it
[12:21] <gnomefreak> IndyGunFreak: it doesnt we are working on something like that though atm
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> gnomefreak: i know it doesn't
[12:21] <omegacenti> Jowi: Can I enter anything in H or V that could screw up (damage) my screen?
[12:21] <rbs-tito> IndyGunFreak: It certainly does
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> it does for windows, but not for linux
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: then you have a miracle system, cuz its NEVER EVER done that for me, i have to do it manually
[12:21] <misfit> tito, that's one of the issues.  the other is that at times, playback becomes choppy, and sometimes to the point where I need to restart firefox.
[12:21] <rbs-tito> IndyGunFreak: It does, as of either Feisty or edgy
[12:21] <Jowi> omegacenti, no, it will not damage your screen. TFT/LCD is not like the old CRT's.
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> slim >:-)
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: it didn't fo rme, in dapper, edgy or feisty
[12:21] <Jowi> omegacenti, if it is not within range your monitor will turn itself off
[12:22] <omegacenti> Jowi: alright so those values are harmless even if I screw up bad.
[12:22] <rbs-tito> IndyGunFreak: Flash works for me on all the systems I've tried, all the other plugins don't though
[12:22] <paladinhugo> Taime1: did you lost sound in this session or you have rebooted before?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: then someone has installed flash, because it doesn't come "preconfigured" with firefox.
[12:22] <Jowi> omegacenti, yes. 60 is safe for VertRefresh
[12:22] <Taime1> paladinhugo: i have rebooted many many times
[12:22] <movi> where's the channel for backports support ?
[12:22] <omegacenti> Jowi: K I guess I will put hertsync back in and see what happens.
[12:22] <rbs-tito> IndyGunFreak: No, the plugin wizard appears and it downloads and installs it
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: no it doesn't
[12:23] <Jowi> omegacenti, just change vertrefresh to 60 first of all. add horizsync only if needed
[12:23] <omegacenti> Jowi: k
[12:23] <CanadianMan> in my window list i have all the programs i have open listed (even ones from other desktops) I'm using beryl and have "Taskbar shows only windows of Current Viewport" checked on under Windows List Preferences i have the "Show windows from current workspace" radio button selected.  Is there something i need to do additionally to get this to work right?
[12:23] <Pirate_Hunter> how cna I change my resolution the highest I cna get is 1024 ... no way!! this is a crime.. lol
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> !resolution
[12:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:23] <rbs-tito> From Ubuntu Guuide
[12:23] <rbs-tito> "Note: The best way to install the Macromedia Flash Player plug-in for Mozilla Firefox is to use Firefox and visit Adobe.com: Version test for Adobe Flash Player. Then you will see a note about firefox missing a plugin for flash. Click this note and follow any steps that firefox tells you to follow. Normally firefox installs this plugin automatically when you click "install now". "
[12:23] <misfit> well, I can still watch them, but at times the sound is out of sync, the video is slow and choppy, or if I open it with an external player, I can't forward or rewind through it.
[12:24] <Jowi> omegacenti, also, your monitor might have an auto adjust button you can try
[12:24] <Pirate_Hunter> but being serious how can I get above 1024 resolution
[12:24] <omegacenti> Jowi: By auto adjust what might you mean?
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> resolution | Pirate_Hunter
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> !resolution | Pirate_Hunter
[12:24] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <nickrud> CanadianMan, iirc you need to turn off show windows from current workspace; all the viewports are on one workspace
[12:25] <Jowi> omegacenti, might be a simple but effective solution. on my monitor I have a button that performs an autoadjust (fits the image to the screen size)
[12:25] <Pirate_Hunter> Indy yeha resolution, I need it higher than it is at the moment, I don't to restart it
[12:25] <omegacenti> Jowi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24646/
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> Pirate_Hunter: lol.. you're completely unhelpable
[12:25] <misfit> does anybody else's pc temporarily freeze when amarok is switching songs?
[12:25] <Rubiks99> hi, has anyone ever used a network share? i have the following setup internet-wirelessPt ))(( wireless adapter - windows comptuer - ehternetcard [12:26] <Taime1> Is there anyone here who is well versed in sound issues? i woke up this morning (after having watched a movie last night, with sound) and my laptop has NO sound...
[12:26] <omegacenti> Jowi: nothing like that on this... 4 buttons. one turns screen(tablet) one has a key on it (no idea what that does) one looks like a context menu button and one looks like a start menu button.
[12:26] <Rubiks99> also *do u know how i can start web service, and ftp??? on ubuntu server?
[12:26] <Phocion> setting up my NEW Dell Ubuntu system riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight now :)
[12:26] <Pirate_Hunter> Indy what do you mean by that, ppl have helped me its just you're thinking I know what you're saying
[12:26] <omegacenti> Jowi: And of course the power button
[12:26] <Jowi> omegacenti, xorg.conf look good. you know it by now, hehe. autoadjust might be in a submenu for some monitors.
[12:26] <GigaClon> is there a list of good printers for Ubuntu
[12:26] <Pirate_Hunter> Indy I told you I'm not ubuntu literate
[12:26] <tyler_d> looking for an all-in-one codec package? any suggestions?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> Pirate_Hunter: my point is, you want everything done for you..., i'm not gonna sit here and copy/paste commands for you, if you'd click the links i just gave you, it'd show you how to fix resolution issues
[12:27] <Pirate_Hunter> I just need the resolution to be higher thans it is already
[12:27] <Taime1> Phocion: i once questioned the compatibility of a dell with linux, i was proved WAY wrong. dells make AWESOME linux machines
[12:27] <omegacenti> Jowi: Laptop monitor, I dont see anything that would allow me to adjust it in any way except for func + brightness/contrast
[12:27] <Jowi> omegacenti, ah.
[12:27] <GigaClon> !printer
[12:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:27] <nickrud> !restricted | tyler_d
[12:27] <ubotu> tyler_d: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> Pirate_Hunter: maybe they sell special glasses, that would you could wear, to make you rscreen look different
[12:27] <CanadianMan> nickrud, how do i turn it off should i select "show windows from all workspaces" because i tried that and it didn't do anything.  It's like the settings are correct just nothing is taking affect.
[12:27] <rbs-tito> Taime1: A Dell laptop worked amazingly with Feisty that I set up the other day] 
[12:27] <Taime1> mine too!
[12:27] <paladinhugo> Taime1: try this : > amixer set -c 0 Master 70 unmute
[12:28] <Taime1> i heart dell
[12:28] <omegacenti> Jowi: anyways restarting X
[12:28] <Pirate_Hunter> Indy thats the kind of comment that dont help, if you don't understand me just don't help I'll wait for someone that does
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> Pirate_Hunter: i understand you perfectly, you don't understand
[12:28] <nickrud> CanadianMan, well, that's what I did, but I think it didn't take until a restart of X. (I stopped using Beryl, just too unstable for me so I can't doublecheck)
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> my resolutionis fine
[12:28] <Pirate_Hunter> than make me understand Indy
[12:28] <Pirate_Hunter> what do you wnat me to do Indy
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> if you won't read what i send you, i'm not gonna waste my time
[12:29] <CanadianMan> nickrud, ah I see i shall try thank you
[12:29] <Monteh> hello
[12:29] <axisys> is there a way i can watch it frm ubuntu http://www.myspace.com/vanished?
[12:30] <omegacenti> Okay Jowi nothing but 1280x768 works. I think X is starting to encounter errors. and what is nautilus?(An error ocurred)
[12:30] <omegacenti> !nautilus
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <GigaClon> Pirate_Hunter, check you PMs
[12:30] <Taime1> paladinhugo: unable to find simple control 'master'
[12:30] <Pirate_Hunter> Well i'm going to try again - can someone explain to me what I have to get higher screen resolution (im a newb)
[12:30] <Monteh> SlimG: i could do anything when it hangs on the loading screen, the computer locks up :s
[12:30] <carolyn_> can someone help me copy an ISO file onto my OS X harddrive?
[12:30] <Monteh> *couldnt
[12:30] <ramatieg> !resolution > Pirate_Hunter
[12:30] <Jowi> omegacenti, no idea about that.
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> ramatieg: lol, don't waste your time
[12:30] <Pirate_Hunter> !resolution
[12:31] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:31] <rbs-tito> IndyGunFreak: Just gave it a go on a laptop, flash installed automatically.
[12:31] <omegacenti> Jowi: oy... try and do another autoreconfigure?
[12:31] <SlimG> Monteh: Try checking your CD for defects, It's a choice on the bootmenu on the DVD
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: ok..
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> that is quite the miraculous pc you have there
[12:31] <Rubiks99> anyone know anything about ubuntu server???
[12:31] <Jowi> omegacenti, I wouldn't recommend it now that it works.
[12:31] <gty> Pirate_Hunter: try ctrl+alt and the + or - buttons
[12:31] <Monteh> SlimG: i checked it, and my older v. of ubuntu, it comes out clear.
[12:31] <rbs-tito> Rubiks99: I know it is good for servers
[12:31] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak, not really, firefox installs flashplayer to ~
[12:31] <Rubiks99> hmm,
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: ok.
[12:32] <jrib> kushal06062007: I would recommend 7.04
[12:32] <rachael_> hello
[12:32] <Rubiks99> does anyone know how to install web service and ftp
[12:32] <omegacenti> Jowi: Correction semi works. still can't do 1024x768, 800x600, or 640x480.
[12:32] <rbs-tito> IndyGunFreak: Ubuntuguide lists it as the way to be done
[12:32] <Rubiks99> apt-get then what?
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> tndqok.
[12:32] <omegacenti> Jowi: Where is the error log for X?
[12:32] <Jowi> omegacenti, you could before you changed the vertrefresh
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> rbs-tito: ok
[12:32] <SlimG> Monteh: Is there a safe-mode you could try?
[12:32] <nickrud> rbs-tito, well, ubuntuguide does have it's moments
[12:32] <omegacenti> Jowi: I think I was mistaken.
[12:32] <Rubiks99> *also my big server problem:"has anyone ever used a network share? i have the following setup internet-wirelessPt ))(( wireless adapter - windows comptuer - ehternetcard [12:32] <Pirate_Hunter> gty u saved the day
[12:32] <Jowi> omegacenti, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:32] <paladinhugo> Taime1: if you run amixer without arguments, does it show any: Simple mixer control 'Master',0 ?
[12:33] <Pirate_Hunter> gty I appreciate that
[12:33] <kushal06062007> I am sorry I missed you. Did anyone call me?
[12:33] <Monteh> SlimG: ill fire i up in vmware to check boot options
[12:33] <gty> Pirate_Hunter: what version are you using?
[12:33] <kushal06062007> 2.0.0
[12:33] <nickrud> rbs-tito, but the downside of that is you have to do that for each user individually, rather than system wide. for a single user machine, no big deal.
[12:33] <GigaClon> if I wanted to go out an purchase a printer that would work with 6.06 with no problems what should I get?
[12:33] <kushal06062007> I am not on Ubuntu right now.
[12:33] <Monteh> SlimG: it might be worth mentioning, that CENTos, installs flawlessly on this system :|
[12:33] <Jowi> GigaClon, see openprinting.org
[12:34] <Pirate_Hunter> ubuntu drater "I think that what it is called" the 6 version tls
[12:34] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: did someone help you with permissions?
[12:34] <Taime1> paladinhugo:  nothing about master
[12:34] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib nope
[12:34] <rbs-tito> nickrud: True, there is a deb you can use instead though
[12:34] <omegacenti> Jowi: Care to have a look?
[12:34] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: I'm in #ubuntu-classroom now and am free
[12:34] <kushal06062007> Pirate_Hunter: I am not on Ubuntu on this machine
[12:34] <kushal06062007> OK I am coming
[12:34] <jrib> kushal06062007: I would recommend 7.04
[12:34] <Pirate_Hunter> kl coming
[12:34] <Jowi> omegacenti, I'm getting a bit too tired. it's after midnight after all
[12:34] <SlimG> Monteh: probably uses another Kernel version or something
[12:34] <omegacenti> Jowi: Thanks.
[12:34] <kushal06062007> join #ubuntu-classroom
[12:35] <Jowi> take care omegacenti
[12:35] <kushal06062007> jrib: when I get a new machine, I wll make sure that it is ubuntu friendly.
[12:35] <rbs-tito> Are the SiS graphics chips well supported
[12:36] <kushal06062007> Do you know of any problems with D965GNT mainboard or its onboard LAN in 7.04?
[12:36] <crdlb> rbs-tito, no
[12:36] <rbs-tito> crdlb: Cheers
[12:36] <Madd_Matt> Hi.  I'm a debian user, but would like to confirm something helping a friend on Ubuntu.  She's running dapper, and we'd like to upgrade to Fiesty, which I gather is the current "stable"?  Should I just be able to change /etc/apt/sources.list for the new ones and have aptitude update all the packages?
[12:37] <jrib> !upgrade > Madd_Matt (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:37] <paladinhugo> Taime1: try alsamixer command to check if there isn't a master
[12:37] <jrib> Madd_Matt: that's not recommended, you should use update-manager instead.  And be sure to upgrade to edgy first and then to feisty
[12:37] <new-ubuntu-user> !upgrade > new-ubuntu-user
[12:38] <ekimus> does anyone have an official comment why ubuntu has slapd but not libpam-ldap or libnss-ldap?
[12:38] <Eroick> I've followed the guides on how to do it, but my Netgear WG111 still doesn't show up in iwconfig using ndiswrapper, fiesty
[12:38] <ekimus> or a link to a commetn?
[12:38] <new-ubuntu-user> !upgrade
[12:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:38] <Monteh> SlimG: i just cant work out why it simply hangs, i usually press num lock to see if windows has crashed for example
[12:38] <rbs-tito> Eroick: That is a USB Wifi right? I didn't ever get mine to work
[12:38] <gty> Eroick: you trying to get wifi to work?
[12:39] <Eroick> rbs-tito: yeah, but mine worked in Dapper
[12:39] <Eroick> gty: yeah
[12:39] <rbs-tito> Eroick: NDISwrapper?
[12:39] <SlimG> Monteh: did you try the safe-mode choice on the boot menu ?
[12:39] <Eroick> rbs-tito: yeah
[12:39] <larson9999> i think we've entered a new era in linux gaming: Goodwill!  I picked up colossal quake for linux at the goodwill shrinkwrapped for $3
[12:39] <Monteh> SlimG: doh ill go do it in a tick ^^
[12:39] <kushal06062007> Intel Mainboard D965GNT
[12:39] <Lipe_> hi, anybady knows if this GPU( 256MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON x1400 HyperMemory )  is ok with feisty?
[12:39] <Taime1> paladinhugo: wow, its gone
[12:39] <Sindri> !resolution
[12:39] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:39] <Taime1> paladinhugo: thats strange
[12:40] <gty> larson9999: whats colossal quake?
[12:40] <Sindri> Ah, the bot's name has changed. My apologies for spamming.
[12:40] <cafuego> Lipe_: it's ati, so the driver will suck.
[12:40] <larson9999> gty, it's a quake ii bundle
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> Lipe_: its ATI, its hit and miss
[12:40] <paladinhugo> Taime1: try > alsactl -d restore 0
[12:40] <Eroick> rbs-tito: ndiswrapper says the driver is installed
[12:40] <dv_> more miss than hit
[12:40] <kushal06062007> maybe nvidia has better drivers
[12:40] <SlimG> larson9999: Link ?
[12:40] <dv_> it *has* better drivers
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> dv_: no disagreement from me on that one
[12:41] <gty> larson9999: oh kewl ioquake3 is beautiful
[12:41] <rbs-tito> Eroick: I only tried it in OpenSUSE, I didn't get it working. But then, its Suse...
[12:41] <paddy_> hello
[12:41] <dv_> I have a nvidia card on my PC, had an ati before, and I have a laptop with ati mobile chiop
[12:41] <dv_> chip
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> *maybe*?..lol
[12:41] <axisys> is there a way i can watch it frm linux http://www.myspace.com/vanished?
[12:41] <dv_> I really hope amd improves the situation
[12:41] <paddy_> is it possible to upgrade from 5.10 to 7.04?
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | Lipe_
[12:41] <ubotu> Lipe_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:41] <rbs-tito> axisys: Works for me, except that it says I need to be in the USA
[12:42] <dv_> paddy_, no
[12:42] <dv_> at least not officially
[12:42] <dv_> and I would not try it
[12:42] <axisys> rbs-tito: hmm u dont get the need to have windows or apple?
[12:42] <paddy_> dv: darn, is it possible to upgrade to 6.06 then to 7.04?
[12:42] <dv_> maybe
[12:42] <CokeMan> my ubuntu keeps crashing at random points by displaying this repeating horizontal-diagonal pattern across the screen and freezeing (kinda like a windows BSOD without the BS)
[12:42] <Lipe_> ubotu, I know but I was trying to find someone who owns it before I buy it...
[12:42] <omegacenti> Anyone help me understand this line? (II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x768"   68.93  1280 1296 1344 1408  768 771 777 816 -hsync -vsync
[12:42] <paddy_> hi indygunfreak, im back again :p
[12:42] <rbs-tito> axisys: It works fine for me. No, I have never oowwned a Mac and haven't used Windows in ears
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: lol, was just noticing that...
[12:42] <dv_> but it would be 6.06->6.10->7.04
[12:42] <rbs-tito> *years
[12:42] <paddy_> lol
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: no, you have t upgrade to 6.06, then 6.10, then 7.04
[12:43] <paddy_> dv_, can you explain how to do that? or indygun that is
[12:43] <axisys> rbs-tito: do u use ff?
[12:43] <paddy_> keep in mind i have no web browser on this machine
[12:43] <paddy_> lol
[12:43] <rbs-tito> axisys: Of course
[12:43] <dv_> no idea. never did that. a fresh install just sounds like a better idea.
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: you might be better off with a clean install.
[12:43] <paddy_> but the ndiswrapper took sooo long
[12:43] <omegacenti> !resolution
[12:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:43] <axisys> rbs-tito: thats odd..
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddy, well, i don't really know what more you can do.
[12:43] <paddy_> ah darn
[12:44] <rbs-tito> axisys: do you have the nonfree codecs?
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: ndiswrapper shouldn't be that hard.
[12:44] <larson9999> if i could spell, it'd be nice.  it's "Quake II: Colossus"
[12:44] <paddy_> back to xp on this laptop then:(, and ill dual boot  my pc i guess
[12:44] <cypher1> paddy_,
[12:44] <paddy_> indygunfreak: do you have any ndiswrapper experience?
[12:44] <axisys> rbs-tito: i thought so.. how do i double check?
[12:44] <paddy_> yes cypher?
[12:44] <larson9999> or read even
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: zero.. i'm stricly a wired man
[12:44] <paddy_> because it almost made my brain asplode
[12:45] <rbs-tito> axisys: right click the movie, choose open in movie player, it will get codecs if you need them. Assuming this is Feisty
[12:45] <ScottLand> Hey I am having an extremely difficult time getting my wireless card(NETGEAR WG511T) to connect to my network?
[12:45] <paddy_> cypher?
[12:45] <axisys> rbs-tito: yes feisty
[12:45] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: That card worked will in NDISwrapper for me
[12:45] <larson9999> i gave up on wired connection.  with feisty wireless is so much easier than wired
[12:45] <ScottLand> NDISwrapper is???
[12:45] <larson9999> :)
[12:45] <ScottLand> im new to ubuntu :-(
[12:45] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: NDISwrapper is a tool to use Widnows wireless drivers
[12:45] <paddy_> ndiswrapper is a headache for noobs
[12:45] <Funkah> Scottland>  Are you sure the modem is working fine?  aka, is the connection there for you to connect to?
[12:45] <ScottLand> yes im positive
[12:45] <ScottLand> how do u think im talking to u  ;-)
[12:46] <sebas_> could it be possible that my graphics driver got uninstalled? I have an ATI radeon 9200 SE. I can't activate the Desktop Effects and none of my 3d games run smoothly
[12:46] <Dimz> hi. can any tell me a good nttp file grabber for gnome? im using klibido at the moment but its giving me an error.
[12:46] <ScottLand> so install this NDISwrapper on my ubutu machine??
[12:46] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: Install NDISwrapper first
[12:46] <ScottLand> let me google it hold on
[12:46] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: Yes, you can get it from Synaptic
[12:46] <cafuego> a wg511t uses the atheros chipset, shouldn't need ndiswrapper at all
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | ScottLand
[12:46] <ubotu> ScottLand: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:46] <rbs-tito> cafuego: The UK ones use Broadcom
[12:46] <axisys> rbs-tito: this is what i get http://rafb.net/p/7NQ0Oc11.html
[12:46] <rbs-tito> cafuego: I assume, by his name, he is from the UK
[12:46] <axisys> nothing to right click
[12:47] <rbs-tito> axisys: Oh, that is Myspace blocking you deliberately
[12:47] <cafuego> rbs-tito: the 't' uses broadcom? argh. I don't like netgear.
[12:47] <nickrud> axisys, I've tried firefox, konqueror, and explorer under wine: konqueror got the closest by lying about being ie6, but the video is an exe file. So I figure it's too much trouble
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: what type of wireless device do you have?
[12:47] <rbs-tito> cafuego: I got one hoping it was atheros, two actually. One was broadcom one was Marvell
[12:47] <ScottLand> rbs-tito: is the dirrections for this program on there?
[12:48] <eegore> what is the client used in linux for a serial console connection to a router?
[12:48] <ScottLand> and cafuego EXACTLY
[12:48] <axisys> rbs-tito, nickrud any suggestion ?
[12:48] <ScottLand> my card worked fine in the old version of ubuntu
[12:48] <ScottLand> now it can see the networks jus i dont get connection once i am connected
[12:48] <cafuego> rbs-tito: which bcm chip exactly?
[12:48] <Taime1> i dont have a 'Master' channel in my sound system... what gives?
[12:48] <nickrud> axisys, like the site said ;)
[12:48] <rbs-tito> cafuego: Couldn't tell you, different machine, different house
[12:48] <paddy_> indygunfreak: 1sec
[12:48] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: Can you run this command and tell us the output?
[12:49] <Pirate_Hunter> Jrib wheer did you go
[12:49] <paddy_> ahh shit forge tthe model, dont leave indy, gotta disconnect my card for a sec
[12:49] <Dimz> hi. can any tell me a good nttp file grabber for gnome? im using klibido at the moment but its giving me an error.
[12:49] <axisys> nickrud: wont work.. no apple.. no windows for 2 yrs now
[12:49] <ScottLand> sure
[12:49] <ScottLand> shoot
[12:49] <axisys> rbs-tito: any suggestion?
[12:49] <sirbob> Is there a yast-like tool available for ubuntu?
[12:49] <sirbob> One that uses apt-get?
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> paddy_: just type lspci in a terminal
[12:49] <CokeMan> my ubuntu keeps crashing at random points by displaying this repeating horizontal-diagonal pattern across the screen and freezeing (kinda like a windows BSOD without the BS)
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> it should be there
[12:49] <axisys> sirbob: apt-get , aptitude
[12:49] <hamb> hi, i finally got multi monitor setup (2nd monitor is a widescreen and not correct resolution). i'm fairly new to ubuntu, and was fairly reliant on multimon for windows. my questions are: is there a similar way to set up each monitor to be its own (not spanned) screen, and also, is there a way to setup the 2nd monitor to a different resolution?
[12:49] <larson9999> my broadcom works.  just had to blacklist that bmc something or other
[12:49] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: "lspci" and tell us the line which mentions your wireless card, we don't want the whole output.
[12:50] <sirbob> axisys - they are only package managers
[12:50] <lukillas> hi all
[12:50] <rbs-tito> sirbob: System > administration > synaptic package manager
[12:50] <lukillas> how can i change gnome's menu bar icon?
[12:50] <cafuego> sirbob: No, there isn't a single monolithic managemet app.
[12:50] <nickrud> axisys, you could use konqueror to download the exe and mess with it in wine. For me, too much trouble (I have windows on this laptop, but haven't booted it since I reformatted for linux)
[12:50] <ScottLand> rbs-tito:  Atheros Communications, Inc.  AR5212 802.11abg NIC(rev 01)
[12:50] <pike_> lukillas: its in /usr/share/pixmaps or something you can just replace the file with another and pkill gnome-panel but i forget the path
[12:51] <reiki> ok so like... do I have to dismiss a nag screen every time I start this box because it's using the nvidia driver that I INSTALLED using the repos? I mean it's not like I have 3rd party repos .... only canonical ones
[12:51] <rbs-tito> Oh, you have an Atheros one
[12:51] <lukillas> pike_, thanks, i'll try
[12:51] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: What is the issue you get when you try to connect?
[12:51] <cafuego> ScottLand: Do you have the restricted-modules installed?
[12:51] <ss_> I m experiencing problem of low speed i tried to turn on the swap it is giving this error in terminal command plus output---sudo swapon -a
[12:51] <ss_> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/ba12a9bf-3017-4ec4-832b-006da46515a2: Device or resource busy
[12:51] <ss_> ----any ideas?
[12:51] <pike_> lukillas: im sure there is an acutall setting.. but i dont know it
[12:52] <ScottLand> huh
[12:52] <ScottLand> restricted modules??
[12:52] <paddy__> hello
[12:52] <reiki> ScottLand, yeah
[12:52] <lukillas> pike_, think i found the image... let me change it, then i'll tell you
[12:52] <ScottLand> sometimes it connects sometimes it doesnt
[12:52] <ScottLand> but either way no internet
[12:52] <cafuego> ScottLand: the atheros driver has a non-open/free part.
[12:52] <paddy__> indygun, its a linksys WPC54GS
[12:52] <ScottLand> no ping response to anything
[12:53] <nickrud> lukillas,  --> locate distributor-logo : depending on your theme & panel size, you'll need to change one or more of those
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: use google to find instructions to install the wireless device.
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> record the information
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> then fresh install Ubuntu 7.04
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> worst comes to worst, you can just install windows.
[12:53] <larson9999> i don't mind bush but he sure looks dumb when he's talking
[12:53] <paddy__> yeah, ill give that a shot i guess
[12:53] <askand> What makes nautilus better than thunar?
[12:54] <uberushaximus> IndyGunFreak, are you insane ;)
[12:54] <bruenig> askand, nothing
[12:54] <pike_> larson9999: he just a texan thats how they all look
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: thats what i would do.
[12:54] <Funkah> Cooler name, askand.
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> uberushaximus: insane?.. what do you mean?
[12:54] <paddy__> might as well, no harm in trying
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: thats the spirit..lol
[12:54] <paddy__> lol
[12:54] <askand>  bruenig: why is nautilus default then? thunar is much faster...
[12:54] <larson9999> paddy_ have you tried, "the unofficial ubuntu guide"  it usually is easiest and best for me
[12:54] <lukillas> nickrud: whereis distributor-logo returns nothing, but i'll find a image ubuntu.svg in /usr/share/pixmaps
[12:54] <ekimus> did ANYONE successfully authenticate a dapper box against ldap? libnss-ldap is just broken... seems there isn't even a fix for it in launchpad
[12:54] <bruenig> askand, it is default for gnome, therefore
[12:54] <nickrud> lukas_, locate
[12:54] <paddy__> yeah, i tried is ~a year ago and got confused, but ive got a bit more linux knowledge now
[12:54] <IndyGunFreak> uberushaximus: why do you think i'm insane?
[12:54] <uberushaximus> ekimus, people use dapper? ;)
[12:55] <paddy__> now just to find a blank cd
[12:55] <uberushaximus> IndyGunFreak, I was joking about you suggesting someone use windows
[12:55] <askand> bruenig: If i make thunar my default manager do I miss some functioins?
[12:55] <hamb> is there a similar way to set up dual monitors to be its own (not spanned) screen (or workspace), and also, is there a way to setup the 2nd monitor to a different resolution?
[12:55] <ekimus> uberushaximus: it has LTS
[12:55] <iqon> uberushaximus: yep, long term support for servers
[12:55] <dial0g> aww man someone else has my main nick registered here
[12:55] <lukillas> nickrud, thanks
[12:55] <IndyGunFreak> uberushaximus: oh ok, sorry, i missed the joke... i was just saying as a last resort
[12:55] <Piposh>  /ns identify fifa2001
[12:55] <rbs-tito> ScottLand: in system > administration > networking, try taking it off roaming and do it manually.
[12:55] <Piposh> damn
[12:55] <dia1og> there :p
[12:55] <bruenig> askand, no if you can figure out how to do that. I tried once and I could never get links in places to open in it, even when I uninstalled nautilus
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> dia1og: whats your main nick?
[12:56] <dia1og> paddy_ :P
[12:56] <dia1og> well, its actually dial0g
[12:56] <john_> what is better ubuntu or kubuntu?
[12:56] <dia1og> 0, not o
[12:56] <webdude> what is the best tutorial link to copy my "home" folder to my new ext3 partition, so that my home or data folder ins't on my main ext3 partition
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> dia1og: no,i think you're still logged on under that name after fiddling with your wireless device
[12:56] <webdude> thanks in advance
[12:56] <ekimus> john_: it's the same just depends on your taste
[12:56] <rbs-tito> john_: Depends on preference, but Ubuntu
[12:56] <dia1og> err.... im still paddy?
[12:56] <Creeture> What's the "Ubuntu Way" of selecting an older kernel as the default instead of the newer one? I know how to do it manually in grub.
[12:56] <Taime1> why would my master channel be missing in my sound system??
[12:57] <rbs-tito> john_: If you want a KDE desktop Ubuntu probably isn't the best choice. Ubuntu is far more feature rich under GNOME
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> no.
[12:57] <pike_> webdude: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ but  a simple cp -r will work that just retains symlinks which i guess might be important
[12:57] <bruenig> webdude, you want to move your home directory to another drive and then have that drive work as a separate home directory or you just want to copy all the stuff over there for backup
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> well, i don't know, maybe someone registered it, thats why it pays to register your nick.
[12:57] <paddy__> yeah
[12:57] <paddy__> i rarely use freenode.net though
[12:57] <askand> bruenig: oh ok.. :(
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: still, it only takes 2sec to register, and it is free
[12:58] <CokeMan> my ubuntu keeps crashing at random points by displaying this repeating horizontal-diagonal pattern across the screen and freezeing (kinda like a windows BSOD without the BS) can someone please help before everything im doing dissappears again.
[12:59] <lukillas> nickrud, there is a lot of distributor-logo, should i change all of it?
[12:59] <jrib> !paste > ubu22
[12:59] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: What graphics card do you have, and are yoou using the 3D effects?
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> CokeMan: whats your graphics device?
[12:59] <paddy__> indygunfreak: i mean... i dont frequent any channels on freenode, so i have no reason
[12:59] <bruenig> CokeMan, those are called artifacts the horizontal things
[12:59] <paddy__> lol
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: i see..lol
[12:59] <Monteh> SlimG: it still hangs using safe boot :(
[12:59] <nickrud> lukillas, you'd want to change at least the 22x22 in the theme you're using, assuming you haven't resized your panel
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> bruenig: so could he sudo apt-get remove horizantal-things
[01:00] <webdude> bruenig, move my home directory to another drive
[01:00] <Skott23> sorry about that now my ubuntu doesnt see my card when I go into System-Network
[01:00] <bruenig> webdude, yeah you could cp -R it and then edit the /etc/fstab
[01:00] <lukillas> nickrud, thanks again
[01:00] <bruenig> webdude, and then rm -rf the old one
[01:00] <webdude> cool thanks!
[01:01] <Skott23> i installed something called madwifi earlier is there a way to remove it... im pretty sure thats what messed it up...actually 100% sure
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> linksys
[01:01] <Skott23> it was a sloppy install
[01:01] <SlimG> Monteh: I guess there's two last ways of making it work, updating your BIOS (in hope that this is triggered by a BIOS bug) or applying boot paramters and see if one of them does it for you
[01:01] <SlimG> Monteh: what boot parameters have you tested sofar?
[01:01] <dorobu> 'evening
[01:01] <tawanda> this is mental,guys i have never used linux befor in my life.how do you install things,i mean in windows you have .exe files
[01:02] <Deinumite> applications ->add/remove
[01:02] <rbutler> an evms question: My dapper system crashed and I reloaded feisty. Now I can't get my evms raid1 to mount... Any suggestions?
[01:02] <dorobu> i have looked in the faqs, but i cannot seem to find how to change the screen resolution higher that 1024... might someone be able to help?
[01:02] <Deinumite> tawanda: or you can type aptitude search <program name here> to search for programs, and type apt-get install <program name> to install it
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: look at this link, very last post....   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5645.html
[01:02] <paddy__> I CANT VIEW LINKS
[01:02] <paddy__> :p
[01:02] <Monteh> SlimG: noapic, nolapic, safe mode, bios is at latest one
[01:03] <paddy__> whats it say?
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: lol, thats right, i forgot.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:03] <EADG_> IndyGunFreak: copy to txt file and ddc it to him.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> how to configure your wireless card.
[01:03] <SlimG> Monteh: tried irqpoll ?
[01:03] <paddy__> hehe
[01:03] <paddy__> :O i needz that link :p
[01:03] <EADG_> err, dcc.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> eadg how do you DCC?.. never done it, other than when i accidentally did it to the whole room and got banned for a couple days
[01:03] <Pirate_Hunter> None of my floppies will work in ubuntu how cna I solve the problem
[01:03] <CokeMan> rbs-tito: onboard, and im using vesa drivers (to my knowledge the safest possible driver) not doing anything 3d.
[01:03] <PriceChild> IndyGunFreak, rofl
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> PriceChild: see, i knew you'd remember that..lol
[01:03] <Monteh> SlimG: no i havent.. is ther any others worth trying?
[01:04] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: VESA is a rather slow driver, maybe you should switch
[01:04] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, it seems to happen when i start multi-tasking alot, or doing multiple things
[01:04] <EADG_> IndyGunFreak: I don't know your irc client, but it should be an option when you right click the nick.
[01:04] <rbutler> Pirate_Hunter: more specifics needed
[01:04] <SlimG> Monteh: Can't think of more, shall see if I find a list, irqpoll has done the magic for me many times
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> EADG_: hmm, i use x-chat gnome.
[01:04] <PriceChild> IndyGunFreak, there is no need to dcc in this day and age
[01:04] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: VESA can't do much beyond the simplest of things. Like having a window open
[01:04] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, ok, i'll try, its an nvidia onboard video controller
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> PriceChild: probably true, but he can't access the web.
[01:05] <CokeMan> rbs-tito,  which do you recomend?
[01:05] <paddy__> indy: got msn?
[01:05] <Rubiks99_> ..
[01:05] <Rubiks99_> hi
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: you mena a hotmail address?
[01:05] <Rubiks99_> someone say hi back
[01:05] <Monteh> SlimG: sure :)
[01:05] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: That entirely depends on your graphics chipset
[01:05] <ubu22> Rubiks99_: hi back
[01:05] <Rubiks99_> this is so wierd
[01:05] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, how do i figure that out?
[01:05] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: run "lspci | grep "vga""
[01:05] <hephaestus_> hi fellas
[01:05] <Pirate_Hunter> My floppy drive runs very slowly is this meant to happen
[01:05] <hephaestus_> I tryng to connect my dell d520 using ppp but i get some errors. I already setup the ppp using pppconfig, but when i type the command pon provider, i get the following message:
[01:05] <hephaestus_> Cant get terminal parameter:
[01:05] <hephaestus_> Input/output error
[01:05] <hephaestus_> Connect script failed
[01:05] <Pirate_Hunter> is it a driver issue
[01:05] <paddy__> sure, im on gaim right now if you wanna add me to send me it :p
[01:06] <kishan> hi rubiks
[01:06] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, that resulted in nothing
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: ok.. send an im to.. prepare yourself...    indygunfreak...lol  i'm on
[01:06] <paddy__> lol kk 1sec
[01:06] <hephaestus_> anyone can help me please?
[01:06] <Rubiks99_> alright, does that make sense? i connect through a wireless adapter, my linux server is connected to my comptuer via ethernet cable, when the server is on, my wireless connection sets out, and i cant ping my access point
[01:06] <Rubiks99_> meaning i dont have any internet
[01:06] <Rubiks99_> and yet
[01:06] <Rubiks99_> only irc works!
[01:06] <MKS> printer installation help with CUPS and LAPD?!??! HELP!!!
[01:06] <Rubiks99_> this is so wierd!
[01:06] <Rubiks99_> ...
[01:07] <rbutler> an evms question: My dapper system crashed and I reloaded feisty. Now I can't get my evms raid1 to mount... Any suggestions?
[01:07] <Rubiks99_> any ideas y, or how i can make my firefox to be able to laod pages?
[01:07] <paddy__> aww wtf indy, some switchboard error
[01:07] <MKS> I need to know if I loaded LAPD before cups or not?
[01:07] <Rubiks99_> irc works, nothing else does
[01:07] <Rubiks99_> hmm
[01:07] <rbutler> Pirate_Hunter: floppies are slow by nature... how slow do you mean?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: lol
[01:07] <MKS> and if not, need to remove both
[01:07] <Rubiks99_> does anyone else find that wierd?
[01:07] <MKS> so can reinstall
[01:07] <Pirate_Hunter> Rubi plz expand that
[01:07] <Rubiks99_> what do u mean
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> well, send me an email to my hotmail address(indygunfreak@hotmail.com)_ and i'll reply with relevant text
[01:08] <Pirate_Hunter> slower than windows rbutler
[01:08] <sunboy> Rubicks, are you sure your IP settings are correct for your Wireless router and for your ethernet card?
[01:08] <Rubiks99_> yes
[01:08] <dorobu> do i need to install any additional video drivers in order to get a screen resolution over 1024x768?
[01:08] <ekimus> MKS: could you rephrase that?
[01:08] <Rubiks99_> if i unplug my ehternet cable from my ethernet router, my wireless connection for ping and firefox return immediatly
[01:08] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, ah, i got it, capital VGA, now what do i do with it?
[01:08] <pike_> dorobu: what card?
[01:08] <rbutler> Pirate_Hunter: are you speaking seconds or minutes?
[01:08] <Rubiks99_> but when i plug it in
[01:08] <Rubiks99_> firefox and ping cant find anything
[01:08] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: Tell us what it says
[01:08] <Rubiks99_> but irc apparently can
[01:09] <Rubiks99_> ..
[01:09] <rbs-tito> clear
[01:09] <rbs-tito> *sorry
[01:09] <SlimG> Rubiks99_: Does this link work in youre browser? http://82.211.81.158
[01:09] <ekimus> Rubiks99_: that is you have cable+wireless active and firefox won't work, on uplugging the cable everything works as expected?
[01:09] <sunboy> That is an odd situation Rubiks
[01:09] <MKS> ekimus, yes
[01:09] <CokeMan> GForce 6100
[01:09] <dorobu> pike_: nvida gforce4 ti4800
[01:09] <MKS> let me put in in notepad and can put all together
[01:09] <rbs-tito> OK, an NVIDIA?
[01:09] <CokeMan> *GeForce
[01:09] <CokeMan> yeah
[01:09] <pike_> !nvidia | dorobu
[01:09] <Pirate_Hunter> like a minute or so to give me the floppy Icon and than to save the actuall work
[01:09] <ubotu> dorobu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> this link does not load
[01:10] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: Is this Feisty?
[01:10] <nickrud> Rubiks99, if you close your irc connection and then try to reconnect, I bet it wouldn't work
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> "problem loading page"
[01:10] <tawanda> ok i downloaded some graphics card drivers but they are in an archive tar.gz where do i compile this stuff.i have never used linux in my life
[01:10] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, yes
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: are you still there?
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> hmm
[01:10] <paddy__> yes
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> ill close
[01:10] <pike_> dorobu: im not sure if that is a legacy driver card or not
[01:10] <Pirate_Hunter> I sm telling you there was a delay in saving the work, it showed the work there but than it started saving
[01:10] <nickrud> Rubiks99, I have problems with the router
[01:10] <paddy__> sorry i was afk
[01:10] <hephaestus_> anyone?
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> if im not back, u knwo what happened to me
[01:10] <jrib> tawanda: what graphics card do you have?
[01:10] <nickrud> Rubiks99, *routing table
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> but first
[01:10] <jrib> !please > hephaestus_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> y is it still workjing?
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> paddy__: "/join #indygunfreak".. i'll just cut/paste it to you there.
[01:10] <dorobu> pike_: ok, i'll try that link for drivers and see if it fixes
[01:10] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: Go to system > administration >restricted driver manager.. It will download and install the propreitary NVIDIA drivers.
[01:10] <paddy__> kk thx
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> or, u sound like u have a huntch
[01:10] <tawanda> intel  940gm
[01:10] <Taime1> why would my master channel be missing in my sound system?
[01:10] <Rubiks99_> as to what is going on over here
[01:10] <jrib> !enter | Rubiks99_
[01:10] <ubotu> Rubiks99_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:10] <tawanda> for a laptop
[01:11] <ekimus> Rubiks99_: that has to do with routing. irc is already established and takes the same route as before (hence continues to work). but firefox tries a new request and tries to get a route and since there are probably 2 "default" routes now it is confused (guess in the dark but i've quite often seen situations like that)
[01:11] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: You need to check the  "enabled" box next to NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver
[01:11] <nickrud> Rubiks99, you already have the connection, irc is persistent. Each page in firefox has to look up the ip address. take a look at what happens to /etc/resolve.conf
[01:11] <hephaestus_> jrib sorry
[01:11] <tawanda> mobile 945GM sorry
[01:11] <Rubiks99_> oh
[01:11] <Rubiks99_> ic
[01:11] <Rubiks99_> i think
[01:11] <MKS> ekimus, I'm trying to install Brother printer.
[01:11] <MKS> found page showing me how to do that, after all the steps, at the very end, it says: install lap before cups..
[01:11] <MKS> printer not working, but can see it, so not sure if i installed lap before cups
[01:11] <MKS> so need to remove both and start again
[01:11] <MKS> how do i do that
[01:11] <nickrud> Rubiks99, typo: resolv.conf
[01:12] <SlimG> Rubiks99_: Just a tip: use the nick of the intended receiver in the message ex. like this: <Nick>: <message>
[01:12] <Bartman_> could someone check my math here
[01:12] <Rubiks99_> hmm, alright in cmd, the ehternet card has a higher priority than the wireless card, can i change the order
[01:12] <Bartman_> I'm transfering about 150Gig, it's going at about 10000KBps, so it should take about 3-4 hours to complete?
[01:12] <Pirate_Hunter> Tanx ppl for the help I need to go, got work to do
[01:12] <Rubiks99_> resolv.conf
[01:12] <hasta> im having sound issues, can someone help?
[01:12] <Rubiks99_> its on a windows machine
[01:12] <MKS> ekimus, for whatever reason, printer not responding, installed both USB and IP, can see both
[01:12] <Rubiks99_> that command resolv.conf sound like a terminal command
[01:13] <ekimus> MKS: i have no idea what lap is but normally you can just reconfigure a package (i thought you were referring to LDAP+CUPS that cought my interest), sorry
[01:13] <CokeMan> i get a message saying : linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-server   I assume apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-server ??
[01:13] <tawanda> | Rubiks99_
[01:13] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, **
[01:13] <Rubiks99_> slimG, can u explain a bit what u mean?
[01:13] <MKS> ekimus, yes, that is exactly what i'm trying to do
[01:13] <JDStone> anyone here doing XGL or AIGLX?
[01:13] <rbs-tito> CokeMan: If it asked you to install that, then go for it
[01:13] <CokeMan> rbs-tito, okie dokie.
[01:13] <rbs-tito> JDStone: AIGLX through Nvidia ere
[01:13] <rbs-tito> *here
[01:13] <JDStone> anyone doing it on Intel GMA X3100
[01:13] <MKS> ekimus, installed both, but needs LPAD before CUPS
[01:14] <JDStone> or a nVidia Quadro?
[01:14] <SlimG> Rubiks99_: When writing messages on public irc channels, you should mention the nick of the receiver so he can easily point out what messages are appointed to him
[01:14] <Rubiks99_> oh!
[01:14] <MKS> ekimus, not sure why, but it says important, to do LDAP first, need to make sure I did  that first
[01:14] <rbs-tito> JDStone: Nvidia quadro would be easy enough, just run the NVIDIA commands
[01:14] <Rubiks99_> SlimG, hi
[01:14] <ekimus> MKS: link to the howto please, i don't think you need LDAP for CUPS
[01:14] <Rubiks99_> SlimG: hi
[01:14] <Rubiks99_> like that?
[01:14] <SlimG> Rubiks99_: You've got it ;)
[01:14] <JDStone> rbs-tito: so it would run on a Quadro just fine?
[01:14] <tawanda> k i downloaded some graphics card drivers but they are in an archive tar.gz where do i compile this stuff.i have never used linux in my life
[01:14] <Rubiks99_> woot
[01:14] <rbutler> an evms question: My dapper system crashed and I reloaded feisty. Now I can't get my evms raid1 to mount... Any suggestions?
[01:14] <rbutler> evms question: My dapper system crashed and I reloaded feisty. Now I can't get my evms raid1 to mount... Any suggestions?
[01:15] <liltass> hello
[01:15] <liltass> I am using Gaim on the Ubuntu LiveCD
[01:15] <rbs-tito> JDStone: As far as I know, with the proprietary drivers, you could do it like on a GeForce
[01:15] <SlimG> !tell me about nick
[01:15] <MKS> ekimus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=447604
[01:15] <MKS> ekimus, this is exactly what I want to do
[01:15] <JDStone> rbs-tito: cool.  How do you think it would run on the Intel GMA X3100?
[01:15] <Rubiks99_> nickrud: resolv.conf sound slike a linux command, the problem is on a windows machine
[01:15] <tawanda> who can i private pm for some advice i've never used linux in my life and this chat is going way to fast
[01:15] <ZeroZiat> Hey.
[01:15] <JDStone> the X3100 has Hardware T&L
[01:16] <nickrud> Rubiks99, oh. never mind me, I know jack about windows
[01:16] <tawanda> who can i private pm for some advice i've never used linux in my life and this chat is going way to fast
[01:16] <rbs-tito> JDStone: I've got it running on an older intel than that, through XGL I believe
[01:16] <hasta> my sound stopped working today, what gives?
[01:16] <tawanda> who can i private pm for some advice i've never used linux in my life and this chat is going way to fast
[01:16] <Rubiks99_> hmm, alright, now that i understand what is going on, i can try to serach for a solution:)
[01:16] <Rubiks99_> adios!
[01:16] <liltass> there are somethings that I am pleased with this LiveCD
[01:16] <JDStone> rbs-tito: and it runs smooth?
[01:16] <tawanda> who can i private pm for some advice i've never used linux in my life and this chat is going way to fast
[01:16] <dorobu> Linux IA32,  Linux IA64,  FreeBSD x86, or  Solaris x64/x86 for Nvidia card drivers?
[01:16] <kdoto> tawanda: the chat isnt going that fast, you dont need to write it 4 times....
[01:16] <liltass> I love the Memory Verifier thing, I like that it contains CD integrity verify
[01:16] <liltass> this ubuntu live cd is great
[01:16] <hephaestus_> does nobody here uses dial up modem on ubuntu? :S
[01:17] <tawanda> kdoto: thanks
[01:17] <ZeroZiat> Hey
[01:17] <kdoto> tawanda: pm me
[01:17] <liltass> but i told it to use 1280x1024x32, and its in 1024x768
[01:17] <tawanda> i thought no one was listenning
[01:17] <rbs-tito> JDStone: Its an old intel, I am just using the feisty "effects". It runs smooth but there is a barely noticeable artifact on the window title bars (It is in two shades of brown)
[01:17] <ekimus> MKS: there is no LDAP mentioned anywhere on that page....
[01:17] <liltass> /uwho tawanda
[01:17] <JDStone> cool thanks for the input rbs-tito
[01:17] <nickrud> tawanda,  if you're using xchat,  type /SET irc_conf_mode 1 it'll remove all the extraneous messages, just leaving the meat
[01:17] <Billiard> hey guys is this normal i get this message a lot...
[01:17] <Billiard> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:17] <Billiard>   Major opcode:  147
[01:17] <Billiard>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:17] <Billiard>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:17] <santi> xcxc
[01:17] <Billiard> Failed to open device
[01:18] <rbs-tito> JDStone: No problem
[01:18] <santi> oh
[01:18] <MKS> ekimus, NO! boy, am I screwed up...  hold on..
[01:18] <liltass> Ubuntu definitly needs some better font
[01:18] <liltass> and it needs some improvements on some stuff, but its getting there...
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> how do I bring up the gDesklets config?
[01:18] <santi> does anybody speak spanish?
[01:18] <nickrud> !es
[01:18] <dorobu> which of these do i download for nvidia card drivers? Linux IA32,  Linux IA64,  FreeBSD x86, or  Solaris x64/x86
[01:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:18] <kdoto> liltass: http://www.howtoforge.com/sharp_fonts_gnome
[01:19] <Monteh> SlimG: i checked witih a few versions of ubuntu, and it hangs after checking the ide for the hd
[01:19] <liltass> yeah, but it needs that by default
[01:19] <Foolish> Bill Clinton name-dropped ubuntu (the african word, not the distro) in his speech at harvad college class day 2007, transcript here: http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2007/06.07/99-clinton.html
[01:19] <liltass> cuz im running the LiveCD
[01:19] <slowriot> Is there a way to access the main partition from recovery mode?
[01:19] <kdoto> liltass: I prefer the default fonts though myself, but that link will make it look like windows.
[01:19] <MKS> ekimus,  here is what I saw: I must be dyslexic : In some distributions, LPD needs to be installed before installing the CUPS wrapper driver. If
[01:19] <crdlb> !baddevice | Billiard
[01:19] <MKS> ekimus, its only missing one letter... lol, isn't that close enough?
[01:19] <ubotu> Billiard: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[01:19] <Billiard> ty
[01:19] <ZeroZiat> I need help, I did what it says here since my wireless didn't work (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset) but it removed my wireless device.
[01:19] <SlimG> Monteh: then irqpoll should do the trick I believe, did you try that?
[01:20] <ubu22> what is a good chat SERVER that I can install on ubuntu?
[01:20] <MKS> ekimus, sigh, the damn thing is just TEASING me, its there looking pretty and doing NOTHING!
[01:20] <Monteh> SlimG: just mentioned something be4 i tried it, bbs
[01:20] <liltass> I enabled "desktop effects", but the screen just went all white
[01:20] <liltass> it didnt work
[01:20] <SlimG> Monteh: ok
[01:20] <ZeroZiat> Hello?
[01:21] <slowriot> suppose I just made a bad change to the config files such that the display looks all messed up as soon as I start ubuntu? How do I undo that change?
[01:21] <MKS> liltass, that happend to me trying ot install beryl... was a pain to get out of it
[01:21] <Zemus> !resolution
[01:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:21] <slowriot> Can I use some keyboard shortcut to open up a terminal?
[01:22] <MKS> liltass, you have to go into terminal mode and remove the directory, it has somehting to do with the drivers
[01:22] <liltass> MKS, I dont know how i got out of it, i just moved my mouse, and then after a minute, it got back lol
[01:22] <PriceChild> slowriot, alt+f1 down right up up up enter
[01:22] <PriceChild> slowriot, alt+f2 gnome-terminal enter
[01:22] <kdoto> slowriot you can set the keyboard shortcut that you want to open a terminal in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[01:22] <liltass> this computer doesnt even have a harddisk, i use the computer from a live CD lol
[01:22] <MKS> liltass, DAMN! EVERYONE has more luck than me?!?! lol
[01:22] <liltass> i have to go buy a cable
[01:22] <ekimus> MKS: LPD and LDAP are _really_ something different :) - normally in ubuntu you want cupsys-bsd that should be the most compatible package providing all the command LDP has too...
[01:22] <MKS> liltass, I tracked it down the the drivers for the video card, but eventually got it badk
[01:23] <liltass> this Live CD is actually pretty fast
[01:23] <slowriot> gnome-terminal? Seems out of place in the middle of a bunch of button presses. Remember, I have to do this from the login screen.
[01:23] <piratenin> Can I get flash on amd64 arch?
[01:23] <Clo> holas
[01:23] <slowriot> PriceChild: Heh, I don't believe that.
[01:23] <bruenig> piratenin, nspluginwrapper
[01:23] <MKS> ekimus, yes, i now, know they are different, where can i get the cupsys-bsd
[01:23] <liltass> this much better than Hoary Hedgehog, this one you dont have to configure language and keyboard, and wait long time, this livecd muchfaster, and it has memory checker, and CD checker, it rocks, and you can boot the disk too
[01:23] <ZeroZiat> I need help, I did what it says here since my wireless didn't work (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset) but it removed my wireless device.
[01:23] <PriceChild> slowriot, why not?
[01:23] <kdoto> slowriot: It's there. In the "Desktop" section.
[01:24] <ekimus> MKS: aptitude install cupsys-bsd
[01:24] <slowriot> PriceChild: That looks more like a video game cheat code than a keyboard shortcut.
[01:24] <liltass> Ubuntu not ready yet, maybe.. but it soon will be there... some more polish, and some better fonts, and some better hardware detection and better graphics drivers, and its there... after some GNOME and KDE updates...
[01:24] <MKS> ekimus, Mike, much appreciate your help... I'm new to this but  committed..
[01:24] <kdoto> slowriot: if you are stuck at the login screen you can alt+f2 and then type "gnome-terminal" or you can always ctrl+alt+F1 for the regular terminal =P
[01:24] <PriceChild> slowriot, the first one opens the menu or opens a box, the rest navigates to the terminal launcher or types the terminal launher in
[01:24] <hamb> is there a way to set up dual monitor to be its own (not spanned) screen (or each monitor is its own workspace), and also, is there a way to setup the 2nd monitor to a different resolution (one of them is widescreen)?
[01:25] <ekimus> MKS: meaning use whatever tool you normally use (synaptic, ...) to get that package
[01:25] <ZeroZiat> HELLO?
[01:25] <ZeroZiat> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset
[01:25] <ZeroZiat> Uhh
[01:25] <ZeroZiat> I need help, I did what it says here since my wireless didn't work (http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset) but it removed my wireless device.
[01:25] <Lill-Tass> the buttons in firefox are ugly
[01:25] <slowriot> PriceChild: Am I going to be able to see this, given that my display is messed up?
[01:26] <Pelo> Lill-Tass, change them,  look under tool > pluggins
[01:26] <PriceChild> slowriot, not a clue
[01:26] <kishan> hi
[01:26] <slowriot> I just messed around with xorg.conf and now I can't see the login screen. What do I do?
[01:26] <slowriot> (I'm in windows right now)
[01:27] <Pelo> ZeroZiat,  you are not being ignored,  but no one currently seems to know how to help you, check the forums for info or try askign again periodicaly
[01:27] <ZeroZiat> Thanks, Pelo.
[01:27] <EADG> hmm, I wonder why it failed?
[01:27] <Monteh> SlimG: nope still hangs.
[01:27] <Pelo> slowriot, boot up the recovery mode and rename  xorg.conf~   to xorg.conf
[01:27] <ekimus> slowriot: boot ubuntu hit ctrl+alt+1 login and restore your backup of xorg.conf - you can then start reproducing the steps and do that again undoing the last change
[01:27] <rbs-tito> Guys, when Cokeman comes back he will likely need help installing the restricted modules for generic and the NVIDIA driver from the manager.
[01:27] <slowriot> Pelo: thanks
[01:27] <rbs-tito> I'm off, night.
[01:28] <MKS> ekimus, apparently already installed
[01:28] <Lill-Tass> xorg 7.3 prolly will be sweet
[01:28] <SlimG> Monteh: see if you can find something appropriate here: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO.html
[01:28] <slowriot> Pelo: I tried booting up in recovery mode, but I think I was on the wrong partition, because etc did not have an X11 subdirectory
[01:28] <Lill-Tass> i look foward to next ubuntu release
[01:28] <MKS> ekimus, I'm not as clever as I seem...
[01:28] <ekimus> MKS: then it's just matter of finding the right driver and configuring it. but I'm not that much of a printer expert so i might be of little help here :)
[01:28] <SlimG> Monteh: or ask someone else at this channel supplying them with the new info you aquired
[01:29] <Pelo> slowriot,hmm, can you boot the live cd ?  find the right file in the right partiton and do the same
[01:29] <Monteh> SlimG: okies =)
[01:29] <slowriot> Pelo: haven't tried the CD... I'll try it now
[01:29] <kdoto> slowriot: you can boot into normal mode and then CTRL+ALT+F1 and then type xorgconfig, or if you have a backup xorg.conf file (you probably do) you can rename it by doing "cp xorg.conf.back xorg.conf"
[01:29] <MKS> ekimus, Ok, I'll wrestle with it, the only thing i can think of is that I will have to do exactly as the web page says, and uninstall cups then make sue LAP is installed
[01:30] <kdoto> slowriot: (ctrl+alt+f1 will put you at the first console)
[01:30] <MKS> ekimus, I'll go wrestle with it for a while, thanks for your help
[01:30] <ekimus> MKS: watch your typos in that field LDAP - LPD and such are really completely different and might lead to wrong suggestions if someone helps you
[01:30] <slowriot> kdoto: okay, thanks
[01:31] <MKS> ekimus, yes, you are right, thanks...
[01:31] <slowriot> be back soon, hopefully
[01:31] <leonel> is there a method  to  make an ubunt install from the net ?
[01:31] <Monteh> ok i cant seem to boot into latest ubuntu, gets to loading menu, and after pressing enter,it hangs on the next screen (loading screen), ive tried noapic, nolapic, irqpoll, alt + f1, everything just hangs. on older versions of ubuntu ive tried it hangs just after checking [IDE] , i can fully and sucessfully install centos as an example, but not ubuntu, anyone got any ideas?
[01:31] <Pelo> !install | leonel
[01:31] <ubotu> leonel: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:32] <kdoto> !automate
[01:32] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:32] <Pelo> Monteh, you' ll need to use the alternate install cd  it is text based
[01:32] <leonel> Pelo: thanks
[01:32] <kdoto> does ubuntu have a console based irc client installed by default?
[01:33] <jrib> kdoto: no
[01:33] <Pelo> kdoto, I donT' think it is installed by default, irciss or something
[01:33] <kdoto> jrib, ty
[01:33] <kdoto> Pelo: irssi
[01:33] <TheDebugger> It's no big deal to install irssi
[01:34] <jrib> kdoto: it used to be installed by default but they needed the space on the live cd for mono or something -_-
[01:34] <Monteh> Pelo: thanks i dont have any cds tho lol, will download and try at a later date >.>
[01:34] <ekimus> so anyone knows a solution on how to use ubuntu as a client in an ldap authenticated network?
[01:34] <Pelo> Monteh, I don'T know how you can navigate various partions on cli ,  but it would be the same operation if you figure out now to get to the correct folder
[01:35] <pushpop`>  whats the best portable gps system you can buy these days?
[01:35] <anthony_> Question from new user: While installing Kubuntu, the installer hung at writing files, 47%, so I shut it down, checked the CD for errors, and tried again. Now it has hung at Configuring Boot Loader, 94%. Can anyone tell me why this might be happening?
[01:35] <Pelo> Monteh, you are looking for  an X-one-one folder right ? not X-L-L
[01:36] <jrib> !offtopic | pushpop`
[01:36] <ubotu> pushpop`: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:36] <levander> Anyone has gotten an MTP DAP to work with Linux?
[01:36] <KnowledgEngineer> hello
[01:36] <Monteh> pelo i dunno what im lookin for tbh
[01:36] <Pelo> anthony_,  try the anlernate install cd
[01:37] <KnowledgEngineer> i'm under ubuntu feisty and i have a WEBCAM "Hercules Dualpix HD"
[01:37] <ekimus> please anyone has a suggestion for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-ldap/+bug/51315 i'm open to everything as long as I stay within the main or universe repository....
[01:37] <Pelo> Monteh,  the folder for xorg.conf is  /etc/X11    where X11 is X one one , and not X LL
[01:37] <KnowledgEngineer> how can i install the support for this webcam ?
[01:37] <KnowledgEngineer> !webcam
[01:37] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:37] <anthony_> Thanks Pelo. I guess I'll try that. Although I'm getting tired of downloading huge files.
[01:37] <ekimus> !ldap
[01:37] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[01:37] <nanotaboada> i'm using feisty and having problems with audio, i can head the mic return in the speakers, but there's no audio playback
[01:37] <Lill-Tass> I bought new computer, I inserted Ubuntu LiveCD and booted, and it froze the machine, then I went into BIOS and changed settings to "Load Optimal BIOS settings", and then I loaded Ubuntu LiveCD and it worked...
[01:38] <Pelo> anthony_,  the alternative if you are willing to try is to pre partition your hdd with a seperate / and swap and /home,  and only format the /  partition with the install, that might help by ligtening the load of operation to be performed by the installer
[01:39] <ekimus> !pam
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <Pelo> !info pam
[01:39] <ubotu> Package pam does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:39] <anthony_> It sounds like something beyond my range of experience.
[01:39] <ekimus> !nss
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <kdoto> !ubotu
[01:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:40] <Pelo> ekimus, what are you looking for ?
[01:40] <ekimus> Pelo: a solution to the libnss-ldap bug https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnss-ldap/+bug/51315
[01:40] <GigaClon> anyone know anything about resizing fonts in the linux flash they are too big for the area and they cut off
[01:40] <dad> Hiya. Just wondering, since desktop effects came up fine on my laptop is there reason to believe beryl would too?
[01:40] <ekimus> Pelo: atm i can't use ubuntu in our network as it hangs on boot because of that
[01:40] <Lill-Tass> in my "Hardware Information" on Ubuntu, it says "Vendor: Unknown" for most stuff
[01:40] <Lill-Tass> and it lists SCSI thing, but i dont have SCSI
[01:41] <Lill-Tass> it seems lists SATA as SCSI
[01:41] <Lill-Tass> since my DVD is SATA, and it says SCSI
[01:41] <sx66> how do you set the brightness into powersave mode so the screen turns off...the default is at 30min and it does not go lower.
[01:41] <KnowledgEngineer> how can i install the support for the webcam "Hercules Dualpix HD"
[01:41] <ekimus> the thing that really bugs me is that slapd is in main while libnss-ldap libpam-ldap are not so i can't even get support for that.... Pelo
[01:41] <Pelo> ekimus, it isn'T something I can help with but you'll have a better chance of getting help here if you ask specific questions instead of posting links to bugs and such,
[01:42] <random> Hi all, I need some help increasing the size of my "/tmp" folder. I don't know if that is even possible or not, but I would appreciate some help.
[01:42] <Lill-Tass> this tool seems useless, on everything it says "Unknown"
[01:42] <PriceChild> random, its only limited by the size of your disc
[01:42] <ekimus> Pelo: i reverted to posting the link. seems nobody is here that has expertise in the field. ubotu was just a try
[01:42] <pike_> random: very easy just make a new partition and add it to /etc/fstab to mount on /tmp
[01:42] <Pelo> !webcam > KnowledgEngineer check your private msg windows for instructions from ubotu
[01:42] <pike_> random: format it xfs for kicks
[01:43] <Pelo> ekimus, maybe in #samba or other channels specialised for  networks stuff
[01:43] <Pelo> ekimus, ##linux is also a posiblity
[01:43] <pike_> random: serious about the format ext is safe but not fast and for /tmp you dont need safe
[01:44] <Pelo> gotta go, later folks
[01:44] <sx66> !power
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <sx66> !powersave
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powersave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <anthony_> Where would I find the alternate CD for xubuntu?
[01:44] <macd> !acpi | sx66
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <ekimus> Pelo: that is not a problem of configuration that is an ubuntu problem, there are about 20 boxes here that work with that config and 1 box that doesn't (well 2 but the other is windows :).
[01:44] <sn0> anthony_ there is no xubuntu alternate cd, there is only the alternate cd
[01:45] <Lill-Tass> i use LiveCD, why i cant change refresh rate, or screenres to 1280x1024?
[01:45] <sn0> you can install xubuntu kubuntu and ubuntu all from the alternate after installed
[01:45] <random> ok pike I really don't know what you are talking about :-) But pricechild, that's what I fugured,  but I am trying to install netbeans and I get a message saying something to the effect that I should increase the size of my tmp folder
[01:45] <macd> anthony_, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com
[01:45] <anthony_> thanks macd
[01:45] <maka123> hey anyone here
[01:46] <sx66> macd: what is acpi?
[01:46] <sn0> oh i take it back, there are alternate images for x/k/gnome
[01:46] <sn0> funky, apologies
[01:46] <maka123> does anyone know how Ican play the right audio channel through both left and right speakers in xine?
[01:46] <kilkus> hola
[01:47] <Lill-Tass> sx66, Advanced Computer Power Interface or something like that, its some shit that makes the computer sleep and save electricity
[01:47] <rredstone> does anyone live in the 94501 zip and interested in linux tutoring ?
[01:47] <anthony_> sn0, can you link me to the alternate CDs
[01:47] <nanotaboada> who can help me with an audio problem on a ubuntu feisty box?
[01:47] <anthony_> for xubuntu, that is
[01:47] <macd> anthony_, I did
[01:47] <sn0> anthony_ macd kindly provided the link already
[01:47] <macd> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/
[01:47] <sn0> you will find it in /xubuntu/releases/7.04/release/ then i386 or amd64 etc
[01:48] <macd> what a mess of synlinks there ;P
[01:48] <sn0> ;] 
[01:48] <rredstone> pmsg me if anyone is interested
[01:48] <anthony_> Thanks, I can find them now. macd and sn0
[01:48] <jarrod> what could  "Make sure you replace "Name" and "Server Name" with the correct data from your XUbuntu installation!" be referring to
[01:49] <maka123> does anyone know how to select the right audio channel to output through both left and right speakers in feisty?
[01:49] <sn0> maka123 im not sure, mind if i ask why ?
[01:50] <dorobu> I installed nvidia drivers and I still cannot get my resolution above 1024x768, it just added more lower, nonstandard resolutions
[01:50] <EADG> Indy, the dcc send aborted, I guess irssi denys the request by default... no idea how to change that.
[01:50] <maka123> yeah thanks, i have some video files which have two different languages
[01:50] <dad> desktop effects = compiz?
[01:50] <maka123> one language comes out from the left speaker
[01:50] <maka123> and another language comes from the right
[01:50] <maka123> i use xine, and can't seem to figure out how to select one to output instead of both
[01:50] <sn0> maybe with some .asoundrc trickery maka123 but hopefully someone else knows better
[01:50] <jarrod> what could  "Make sure you replace "Name" and "Server Name" with the correct data from your XUbuntu installation!" be referring to on ubuntu and how can i look at this info
[01:51] <sn0> maka123 does the file have dual audio channels?
[01:51] <maka123> no
[01:51] <sn0> i know in vlc and other apps you can select which audio channel to play
[01:52] <piratenin> So I downloaded this game (stepmania, http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/Downloads ) as a Linux binary and it extracted, how do I run the binary?
[01:52] <maka123> yeah for some reason it wont play in rmvb
[01:52] <Lill-Tass> ubuntu Livecd rocks, i dont even have a harddisk on my computer, but my computer is not a useless brick, thanks to ubuntu
[01:52] <maka123> in vlc i mean (its a rmvb file)
[01:53] <sn0> piranha_ maybe you should check the install and configure section on the site
[01:53] <sn0> im sure they have linux instrutions
[01:53] <piratenin> they don't =(
[01:53] <radius> any issues upgrading from breezy server to current (ie. any links to common issues) thanks (:
[01:54] <sn0>  a. Double click stepmania from the Stepmania folder
[01:54] <sn0>    b. Create shortcut in K Menu or Gnome Menu, launch from there
[01:54] <[B] [A] [O] > De donde es esta madre?
[01:54] <piratenin> When I double click it
[01:54] <sn0> radius that is quite a jump in upgrading, im not sure i would do it remotely :)
[01:54] <piratenin> nothing happends
[01:54] <radius> i know - but i just noticed breezy has been removed from the apt-get updates
[01:54] <piratenin> oh I needed the AMD64 wrapper
[01:54] <solowlr> is there any way to run VNC as a "service" on Fiesty so I can log out and log back in remotely?
[01:54] <radius> and now i need to plan what is the best path to upgrade
[01:55] <pike_> radius: not sure id do that
[01:55] <CokeMan> im having a weird problem with azureus if i delete all the files in ~/.azureus and reset up azureus, azureus will function for that period. If i close azureus and try to use it again, it crashes immidately after it loads. It also crashes after i change the NAT port. so it would seem one is related to the other. Anyone know anythign about what to do?
[01:55] <sn0> radius start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:55] <piratenin> Still doesn't do anything when I double click it
[01:55] <radius> any recommendations would be appreicated
[01:55] <radius> ok thanks sn0
[01:55] <sn0> your welcome
[01:55] <cwillu> solowlr, familiar with ssh?
[01:55] <pike_> radius: personally id lean to dapper
[01:55] <bruenig> CokeMan, azureus is bad, I would just not use it and get something better myself rather than worrying about how to fix it
[01:56] <sn0> radius i would agree with pike_
[01:56] <radius> gotcha thanks
[01:56] <radius> will read up and follow the process
[01:56] <solowlr> yes, I'd like to tunnel VNC through SSH
[01:56] <radius> thanks again
[01:56] <CokeMan> bruenig, thats fine, any suggestions? Thats just what i used to use windoze
[01:56] <bruenig> utorrent
[01:56] <solowlr> I've got the instructions for tunneling through ssh
[01:56] <sn0> piranha_ you could try running the name of the file from the terminal
[01:56] <sn0> its not really a ubuntu question though
[01:57] <cwillu> solowlr, okay;  I think the biggest problem you're going to run into is that the x server resets when you log out (iirc)
[01:57] <solowlr> ic
[01:57] <piratenin> sn0, how do you run it from terminal, just type the name?
[01:57] <cwillu> solowlr, you might be able to run a vnc viewer as root so that you can connect while it's at the login screen
[01:57] <cwillu> that's not the best way, but I'm not familiar enough with xauth stuff to say a better way
[01:58] <cwillu> solowlr, is it for remote assistence, or just for another remote session?
[01:58] <sn0> piranha_ yep
[01:58] <cwillu> solowlr, there's a vnc-only xserver which might be useful otherwise
[01:58] <solowlr> remote session, so I can log in while away from home
[01:58] <Jared|Linux> Heh...what is the likelyhood of getting abotu 100 cd's to hand out at a convention?
[01:58] <piratenin> if a file was in home/myName/... what do I type?
[01:59] <piratenin> it says no such file or directory
[01:59] <pike_> !loco | Jared|Linux
[01:59] <cwillu> piranha_, /home/myName/
[01:59] <ubotu> Jared|Linux: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams
[01:59] <sn0> piranha_ you mention amd64 so maybe you have to do more, i noticed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34700&highlight=stepmania
[01:59] <cwillu> piranha_,  need the leading slash
[01:59] <cwillu> bah
[01:59] <solowlr> ok, thanks cwillu
[01:59] <cwillu> piratenin,
[01:59] <pike_> Jared|Linux: otherwise theyd arrive about 4 months from now
[01:59] <toad__> hi, what's the preferred way to install texlive 2007 for fiesty?
[01:59] <cwillu> piratenin, need the leading slash:  /home/username/...
[01:59] <Jared|Linux> how logn would it take to get about 10?
[01:59] <PriceChild> !away > maco-away
[02:00] <pike_> my exp was about 1 month maybe little longer
[02:00] <piratenin> error while loading shared libaries: libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[02:00] <cwillu> solowlr, might also look at nx/2x stuff
[02:00] <toad__> I saw that texlive 2007 is in the thing for gutsy, is it difficult to install that in fiesty?
[02:01] <sutabi> Is there any chat problem I can use on linux that will work with webcams?
[02:01] <pike_> sutabi: vlc should work. its pretty much as swiss army knife for video
[02:02] <cwillu> toad__, I'd expect the quickinstall they list on the site will work, just remember to remove it before you upgrade to gutsy so that you can use the packaged version at that point
[02:02] <piratenin> error while loading shared libaries: libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[02:02] <barbarella_me> sutabi:problem or program
[02:02] <sn0> sutabi there are many choices really, give ubuntuforums.org a search for video chat
[02:02] <piratenin> Where would I get the vorbisfile library?
[02:02] <cwillu> piratenin, what program are you trying to run?
[02:02] <sn0> piranha_ please read the link i posted, it has what you seek :)
[02:02] <piratenin> Do I have to google it or is there some sort of thing in symantic or terminal
[02:02] <toad__> cwillu: yeah, I was wondering if there was a more proper way of doing things, e.g. in case there are packages that depend on texlive or something
[02:03] <piratenin> cwillu, Stepmania
[02:03] <piratenin> it's a game
[02:03] <ryanakca> I currently have `rsync -az -e "ssh -i /home/backupdesktop/cron/thishost-rsync-key" ryan@192.168.1.107:/home/ryan /backup/ryanhome` running as a cron job. However, if I accidently mess up my system, it doesn't permit me to revert changes, so, is it possible to somehow have 'diff' run each time instead, and create a daily patch for the changes?
[02:03] <cwillu> toad__, well, you can google for a deb file,
[02:03] <cwillu> toad__, one sec
[02:03] <cwillu> bah, piratenin I mean
[02:03] <macd> ryanakca, man rdiff ;)
[02:03] <levander> Is there a way to tell what packages I have installed from a specified repository?
[02:03] <piratenin> deb file?
[02:03] <piratenin> like
[02:03] <piratenin> libvorbisfile.deb?
[02:04] <piratenin> or libvorbisfile.so.3.dev
[02:04] <piratenin> b
[02:04] <darwin81> Is there a way to rename a lot of files at once?
[02:04] <piratenin> *
[02:04] <bmc3> Hello!
[02:04] <ffm> Can I use my ubuntu PC to provide wireless access to other devices?
[02:04] <ryanakca> macd: ah, never knew such a thing existed
[02:04] <levander> darwin81: "for i in * ; do mv $i $.newext ; done" - you have to right a shell script
[02:04] <macd> ryanakca, rdiff + rsync = a decent backup solution
[02:04] <toad__> cwillu: can I use the stuff from here: http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html ?
[02:05] <cwillu> toad__, no harm in trying, if it works, then great
[02:05] <toad__> cool, thanks
[02:05] <piratenin> there is no deb file for libvorbisfile
[02:05] <jrib> darwin81: or use the "rename" command
[02:05] <nickrud> piratenin, it's libvorbisfile3 (the package) but it should already be installed, iirc
[02:06] <Q_Continuum> I tried to install quake III, but it timed out downloading the package from ID Software, and now when I try to install Skype it also queues up the Quake III installation, and is trying to download that binary again; but timing out partway through.  How can i remove Quake III from the list of 'to install' software?
[02:06] <bmc3> I've got two problems: When i right click a file on a relatively fresh kubuntu installation the dialog that indicates the process that the file/folder is moved to the .Trash appears ... but then it stalls and times out with a "protocol trash timed out" message. But worse: I can't log out after this.
[02:06] <piratenin> it isn't installed =(.
[02:06] <cwillu> piratenin, sudo apt-get install libvorbisfile3 should do it, but as nickrud said, it's surprising it's not already installed
[02:06] <bmc3> When I kill the Xserver the whole home dir gets messed up and i can't start into kde until I delete everything in $HOME
[02:07] <cwillu> Q_Continuum, just uncheck it from synaptic
[02:07] <bmc3> Any ideas?
[02:07] <Jared|Linux> Serious question...If I installed edgy...would it be faster to upgrade rather than downloading the new iso and having to burn it to disc then install?
[02:07] <Q_Continuum> ok
[02:07] <jrib> bmc3: why are you killing it and how?
[02:07] <piratenin> I just downloaded it and it said do you want to reinstall libvorbis so I guess it is installed
[02:07] <piratenin> stepmania isn't finding it
[02:07] <macd> Jared|Linux, Its about the same, the dist-upgrade is ~700mb
[02:07] <cwillu> Jared, if downloading takes less that an hour, I'd say the fresh install would be quicker
[02:08] <jrib> piratenin: are you compiling stepmania?
[02:08] <bmc3> jrib: I can't log out. The screen on which you can log out just doesn't appear after i click on "logout"
[02:08] <piratenin> no
[02:08] <cwillu> macd, Jared|Linux the upgrade takes longer
[02:08] <Jared|Linux> yeah...It will be overnight, maybe a bit into tommorow before it finishes downloading.
[02:08] <bmc3> - in the K menu
[02:08] <piratenin> I am running the executable
[02:08] <ffm> Can I use my ubuntu PC to provide wireless access to other devices?
[02:08] <Jared|Linux> Okay, thanks.
[02:08] <macd> ffm, yes
[02:08] <cwillu> macd, remember, it has to actually do all the processing of upgrading after downloading
[02:08] <kdoto> ffm: the short answer is yes.
[02:08] <macd> ffm, you should read a bit on iptables + NAT
[02:09] <ffm> kdoto, macd, How, and what hardware do I need to buy? Also, is it possible for a newbie to do?
[02:09] <sutabi> barbarella_me program >.<
[02:09] <CokeMan> i just installed bittornado how do i run it? i cannot find it in /usr/bin
[02:09] <jrib> bmc3: I don't know why that happens but what is the output of this command:  groups
[02:09] <kdoto> Does anyone know how I change the volume of a flash app? I.e. when I'm viewing a vid on youtube the gnome volume control does nothing -- so even when master volume is muted, I still hear the sound from the flash applet :(
[02:09] <cwillu> ffm, just need a supported wireless card, and the knowledge to set up dhcp (optional), routing and/or bridging
[02:10] <cwillu> there's guides out on the web, its a bit out of scope for this page though
[02:10] <macd> ffm, anything is possible for anyone, in a nutshell, you need a wireless card in your linux box and an ethernet card, there are several linux distros specifically made for what your trying todo also.
[02:10] <jrib> kdoto: change the PCM volume
[02:10] <piratenin> ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:10] <bmc3> jrib: "Domain Users" only
[02:10] <kdoto> jrib: how?
[02:10] <Murrlin> evening
[02:10] <jrib> kdoto: double click on the speaker
[02:10] <bmc3> jrib: LDAP with Samba hier. - I'm trying to migrate to linux
[02:10] <jrib> bmc3: huh?
[02:10] <piratenin> Oh libvrobisfile cannot open a shared file, although it doesn't specify what file that is, how convinent =(
[02:10] <bmc3> s/hier/here
[02:11] <Jared|Linux> Okay, another question...is Feisty Fawn a major difference from edgy...or is it better>
[02:11] <cwillu> piratenin, not quite, stepmania can't open libvorbisfile.so.3 I believe
[02:11] <Murrlin> I install the nvidia graphics driver from the site, which works nicely. but every time I restart, I have to install it again just to get X to run!
[02:11] <Murrlin> what am I doing wrong??
[02:11] <jrib> Jared|Linux: yes
[02:11] <Murrlin> how to I get it to stick?
[02:11] <piratenin> cwillu, what do you recommend?
[02:11] <what2dowhat2do> does anybody know how to install a 32 bit driver in a 64 bit system?
[02:11] <tinin> e
[02:12] <piratenin> I just reinstalled libvorbisfile
[02:12] <cwillu> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3.1.1 /usr/lib/libvorbisfile.so.3
[02:12] <cwillu> piratenin, ^^^^^
[02:12] <macd> what2dowhat2do, how about what driver specifically
[02:12] <tinin> #e
[02:12] <cwillu> might work, might not, worth a shot
[02:12] <what2dowhat2do> its a driver for my wireless card
[02:12] <ffm> macd, cwillu, I need to do it on the same box that I do my normal computing on. I need to make it so that the devices can get to the internet, but not to the intranet. I need to know the right card to buy, I already have a router.
[02:12] <cwillu> hmm, nvm
[02:12] <cwillu> PreZGN,
[02:12] <cwillu> bah
[02:12] <cwillu> piratenin, never mind, don't run that
[02:12] <what2dowhat2do> um.... hang on i'll get u the chipset
[02:12] <piratenin> I already did =(.
[02:12] <cwillu> the package already has a libvorbisfile.so.3
[02:12] <sn0> Murrlin because you used the nvidia.com drivers you dont get the benefit of it autoworking, like with nvidia-glx
[02:13] <macd> ffm, it is believed that the atheros 52xx based cards to an excellent job in AP mode.
[02:13] <sn0> so you most likely need to tell your /etc/modules file to load nvidia on boot up
[02:13] <cwillu> piratenin, meh, it should fail with an error anyway
[02:13] <kdoto> thanks jrib.
[02:13] <ryanakca> macd: hmmm. It doesn't let me specify the log in command as in:
[02:13] <piratenin> yes still the same error
[02:13] <cwillu> piratenin, let me try installing it
[02:13] <piratenin> thanks =)
[02:13] <ryanakca> macd: `rsync -az -e "ssh -i /home/backupdesktop/cron/thishost-rsync-key" ryan@192.168.1.107:/home/ryan /backup/ryanhome`
[02:13] <kdoto> jrib is there a reason PCM volume isnt affected by master? can i fix that?
[02:13] <ffm> macd, So, what card spesificaly whould you reccomend, and can I limmit it so that only external net can be accessed? Not anything in 192 range?
[02:13] <toad__> cwillu: I get something about unresolved dependencies :/
[02:13] <toad__> unresolvable rather
[02:14] <jrib> kdoto: no idea, I thought it was
[02:14] <cwillu> toad__, okay, that's not unsurprising
[02:14] <kdoto> jrib: strange. ok thanks again.
[02:14] <Murrlin> sn0: indeed.
[02:14] <cwillu> toad__, probably best to stick with their rough manner of installing it
[02:14] <Murrlin> so do I just reinstall nvidia-glx?
[02:14] <cwillu> (if they give you the option, /usr/local is a good place for it to be installed to)
[02:14] <macd> ffm, any card with an atheros 52xx chipset, try a web search.  as far as ip[ assignment and restricting intranet access thats all going to be done with iptables, so read up on that also.
[02:14] <cwillu> toad__, ^^
[02:14] <Murrlin> I mean refresh it
[02:14] <sn0> that would complicate things more Murrlin
[02:14] <toad__> do you think I'll have better luck with the packages for gutsy ?
[02:14] <Murrlin> ^^
[02:14] <macd> ryanakca, huh?
[02:14] <sn0> nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new is ubuntu packaged drivers for nvidia cards
[02:15] <piratenin> cwillu I had to download the amd64-wrapper for it aswel
[02:15] <piratenin> I don't know if that matters
[02:15] <lwizardl> hi
[02:15] <cwillu> toad__, I know there's a tool for backporting the dependiencies to previous ubuntu's, but I'm not sure how trivial the process is
[02:15] <piratenin> I've tried running the wrapper and just the executable
[02:15] <sn0> but you choose to install the ones from nvidia.com , that do not install a deb file, or get used by apt/synaptic
[02:15] <sn0> so you have to manually cater for it
[02:15] <cwillu> toad__, at this point, I'd strongly recommend just going with the site's instructions
[02:15] <what2dowhat2do> 88w8335 marvell chipset 64 bit driver is what i needs its for a AWD154 card
[02:15] <Murrlin> sn): go on
[02:15] <toad__> cwillu: okay, thanks for the help
[02:15] <sn0> installing the driver loads the nvidia module at the end, so when you reboot the module isn't loading automatically
[02:16] <ryanakca> macd: I currently have `rsync -az -e "ssh -i /home/backupdesktop/cron/thishost-rsync-key" ryan@192.168.1.107:/home/ryan /backup/ryanhome` running as a cron job. However, if I accidently mess up my system, it doesn't permit me to revert changes, so, is it possible to somehow have 'diff' run each time instead, and create a daily patch for the changes? == original question. You suggested I look into rdiff for backups. rdiff doesn't give me the ...
[02:16] <cwillu> piratenin, well, with any luck I'll see the same problem without the amd64 wrapper
[02:16] <wepeel> hi all. I have two computers: one desktop and one laptop. Both are connected through the same router...basically I'd like the laptop to have access to the home printer. It's not a networking printer, but the desktop has all the drivers etc installed for it. Is this possible? Do I have to set up a LAN
[02:16] <ryanakca> ... option of specifying an ssh key (usefull, crontab, no password needed)
[02:16] <macd> ryanakca, you use rdiff to prepare it, then rsync to back it up
[02:16] <sn0> so as per the manual Murrlin , edit /etc/modules , add nvidia to a new line at the end
[02:16] <cwillu> piratenin, it didn't work at all, right?
[02:16] <sn0> so next time you reboot, it will add the driver for you
[02:17] <Murrlin> sn0: bless you
[02:17] <sn0> you do not need to reboot to activate it, thats just for the _next_ time you reboot, to load the module type "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[02:17] <Zemus> tawanda, everything alright?
[02:17] <Zemus> It would seem you've left us. :P
[02:17] <cwillu> piratenin, it didn't work at all, right?
[02:17] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know where I can find the source code to the w utility?
[02:18] <Murrlin> off to try this
[02:18] <Spastic__teapot> Can anyone help me with my Enemy Territory installation? It's flatly refusing to work, and I'm wondering if the program does not have permissions to access itself to download updates. http://pastebin.ca/549110
[02:19] <wepeel> are they oatmeal raisin?
[02:19] <piratenin> cwillu, right
[02:19] <piratenin> nothing happends
[02:19] <sn0> Spastic__teapot did you install ET with sudo?
[02:19] <piratenin> I only see the error if I run it from terminal
[02:19] <sn0> personally i installed it to my /home/username/ folder , and set ownership to me only
[02:20] <Spastic__teapot> sn0: Nope. Full root.
[02:20] <cwillu> piratenin, and you're running it via amd64-wrapper.sh?
[02:20] <sn0> that will be why then Spastic__teapot
[02:20] <sn0> if you are the only user playing it, i suggest just installing to your home folder
[02:20] <ryanakca> macd: ah, I thought you were talking about rsync-backup
[02:20] <K2> hi there! i'm wondering if current version of Ubuntu will run on mac mini (powerpc version)
[02:20] <piratenin> cwillu, I'm trying both, neither are doing anything
[02:20] <ryanakca> macd: s/rsync-backup/rdiff-backup
[02:21] <cwillu> piratenin, okay, and you are running a 64bit chip, right?
[02:21] <piratenin> yes
[02:21] <Spastic__teapot> sn0: I did it with Sudo, too. No beans.
[02:21] <sn0> Spastic__teapot using it with sudo means you are doing it as root
[02:21] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, its in the source package procps
[02:21] <sn0> just install without sudo and telll it to go to your own home folder
[02:21] <CokeMan> im having a weird problem with azureus if i delete all the files in ~/.azureus and reset up azureus, azureus will function for that period. If i close azureus and try to use it again, it crashes immidately after it loads. It also crashes after i change the NAT port. so it would seem one is related to the other. Anyone know anythign about what to do?
[02:21] <piratenin> AMD 3400+
[02:21] <sn0> K2 yes it 'should' :)
[02:21] <K2> does anybody know if current version of ubuntu will work with mac mini (powerpc version)?
[02:21] <cwillu> piratenin, only other thing I can suggest is to see if somebody on their forums has run into anything;  I'm guessing its a problem with the wrapper, but I don't know enough about it to say more
[02:22] <piratenin> ok thanks
[02:22] <jrib> !ppc > K2 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:22] <cwillu> piratenin, it fired up fine on my machine, but I don't have any 64 bit machines to try it on
[02:22] <jrib> K2: that's info about  the ppc version, but I can't say anything about the mac mini in particular
[02:22] <omegacenti> How and where do you install a driver in ubuntu? I am using one that is not in the repositories so I have to do it manually. it for i810 graphics card.
[02:22] <yurimxpxman> nickrud: how do I get the source code to that package?
[02:22] <Spastic__teapot> sn0: I tried installing it with Sudo. It did'nt work. I then installed it without privelages. No go. Then I installed it as root.
[02:23] <Bobtime> Okay, I tried to suspend my desktop....  didn't work, and now when I've rebooted I have no sound (I've restarted alsa-utils etc, but still no sound)
[02:23] <tyler_d> anyone familiar with gfax, I have efax-gtk running and it dials out just fine, gfax(I want to use for mass faxing capability) does not... I have attempted re-installing, as well several configs???
[02:23] <what2dowhat2do> 88w8335 marvell chipset 64 bit driver is what i needs its for a AWD154 wireless card to run with NDiSwrapper because right now i have a 32 bit version which it says cannot run on a 64 bit system
[02:23] <sn0> im not sure then Spastic__teapot , i dont think i had any problems with it
[02:23] <Bobtime> any suggestions?
[02:24] <ekimus> is /etc/environment or /etc/profile the place to configure systemwide shell variables?
[02:25] <what2dowhat2do> 88w8335 marvell chipset 64 bit driver is what i needs its for a AWD154 wireless card to run with NDiSwrapper because right now i have a 32 bit version which it says cannot run on a 64 bit system can anybody help me either to install the 32 bit dirver on the 64 bit system? or is there some other way i can do this?
[02:25] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, enable the source repositories in apps->add/remove button preferences, then in a terminal apt-get source procps if my memory serves
[02:25] <piratenin> cwillu, I've had a lot of problems not having enough 64 bit support, can I reinstall ubuntu with the regular architecture on my amd64?
[02:25] <piratenin> Like windows can run the regular non-64 version on my proc..
[02:26] <ekimus> piratenin: yes
[02:26] <what2dowhat2do> prietenin/ekiums wouldn't the system be a lot slower then?
[02:26] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: no
[02:26] <yurimxpxman> nickrud: thanks! Now I just have to find where it downloaded to.. :-P
[02:26] <cwillu> piratenin, yep;  these transitions are painful
[02:26] <cwillu> piratenin, you might have some luck with building from source, but I can't guarentee anything
[02:27] <piratenin> I installed ubuntu last night so I don't really have anything to lose
[02:27] <CokeMan> im having a weird problem with azureus if i delete all the files in ~/.azureus and reset up azureus, azureus will function for that period. If i close azureus and try to use it again, it crashes immidately after it loads. It also crashes after i change the NAT port. so it would seem one is related to the other. Anyone know anythign about what to do?
[02:27] <piratenin> How do I build from source?
[02:27] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: 64bit just lets your box have (easier) access to over 4GB of ram and is usefull for number crunching etc. for home computers 64bit are near to useless atm
[02:27] <omegacenti> Does anyone know how to install a driver (.so file) in ubuntu? Please help!
[02:27] <K2> crdlb - i see that 7.04 is not officially supported but is it still ok to install it?
[02:28] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus: ok then i'll just install the 32 bit ubuntu then so that it wouldn't have a problem
[02:28] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, I haven't done source for a long time, but in the current directory?
[02:28] <what2dowhat2do> macd: 88w8335 marvell chipset 64 bit driver is what i needs its for a AWD154 wireless card to run with NDiSwrapper because right now i have a 32 bit version which it says cannot run on a 64 bit system can anybody help me either to install the 32 bit dirver on the 64 bit system? or is there some other way i can do this?
[02:28] <crdlb> K2, it's not?
[02:28] <nickrud> omegacenti, which one?
[02:28] <yurimxpxman> nickrud: thanks! That worked! :)
[02:28] <cwillu> piratenin, there's a linux source download link on the page, there should be instructions as well;  might just be easier to go with a 32-bit install of ubuntu though
[02:28] <crdlb> K2, it's not long-term support like 6.06, but it is as supported as 6.10 is
[02:28] <omegacenti> nickrud: i810 driver (modified with a force modesetting)
[02:28] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: exactly i heard that things like flash are a pain to set up under 64bit linux. can't tell for sure not that much of a desktop user
[02:28] <IndyGunFreak> cwillu: thats almost always easier..
[02:28] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus: so if i'm going to run mythtv its not boing to make a big deal, so why have the bit?
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> cwillu: wait till he tries to get simple things like web browser plugins to work
[02:29] <cwillu> lol
[02:29] <K2> ok thank you for info!
[02:29] <nickrud> omegacenti, i810_drv.so?
[02:29] <omegacenti> nickrud: something like that yes.
[02:29] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus: going* and why have 64 bit is 32 bit will work for mythtv and have no diffrence?
[02:29] <piratenin> Ok, I need to dumb this installation and install 32-bit, do I just repartition this partition?
[02:29] <solowlr> ok, dumb question, I just installed torrentflux and I can't find where the heck the installation put the files
[02:29] <piratenin> dump*
[02:29] <miles_> Flash is even harder on PPC... and some people are going to ask about this issue (PS3)
[02:29] <wolfspirit> is there a way to enable a right click menu in gnome similar to blackbox?  or is that only driven by the window manager?
[02:29] <piratenin> is my GRUB going to mess up?
[02:30] <K2> crdlb, last question - 7.04 will work on Intel-version mac mini, right?
[02:30] <TaJMoX> piratenin : the installer has a partitioning wizard or gparted - grub will be re-installed after the install is complete
[02:30] <cwillu> piratenin, are you running a dual boot?
[02:30] <nickrud> omegacenti, well, if it's that one, make a backup of the one in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ and put it there
[02:30] <miles_> K2, yeah
[02:30] <crdlb> K2, I don't see why it wouldn't
[02:30] <piratenin> yes, I have XP aswel
[02:30] <omegacenti> nickrud: thanks.
[02:30] <K2> ok thanks!!
[02:30] <K2> <-- first-timer Ubuntu :P
[02:30] <TaJMoX> piratenin - no worries - it will detect your windows partition - just dont format it and it will be in your boot menu
[02:30] <what2dowhat2do> piratenin: just reinstall and tell it to erase only the linux partations
[02:30] <cwillu> piratenin, ya, just rerun the live cd, the same way you did originally;  should be able to tell it to use the existing partitions this time though
[02:31] <piratenin> rerun the live cd?
[02:31] <crdlb> K2, you probably saw that 7.04 or PPC is not officially supported
[02:31] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: in essence yes. dunno mythtv but if it's something that converts movies you _could_ see a slight performance impact if you do good benchmarks imho. but nothing that should bug you (especially a 64bit env will bug you more in terms of desktop)
[02:31] <piratenin> don't I need to make a 32bit cd?
[02:31] <pw> how can I connect to a wpa-psk wireless network? the wifi card seems to be correctly configured in that it sees all the different networks but in the network settings thing I can only choose wep
[02:31] <ekimus> piratenin: you need to download a 32 bit cd yes
[02:31] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus: its a DVR system
[02:31] <cwillu> piratenin, yes
[02:31] <miles_> I'm wondering what kind of hardware would Ubuntu need to obtain the best autonomy on laptops
[02:31] <cwillu> my bad
[02:31] <K2> crdlb, right but i see some mirrors having 7.04 for ppc so maybe it's not good idea to do it.. could run into lot of problems
[02:31] <TaJMoX> pw : there is extra configuration needed for WPA try !wireless   that guide tells you how to do it
[02:31] <pipatron>   pw: Found no creature matching the pattern /: there is extra configuration needed for WPA try !wireless   that guide tells you how to do it/.
[02:31] <pw> (I did get some message about a restricted wireless driver)
[02:32] <pw> !wireless
[02:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:32] <tbtroja> I'm having huge problems loading up programs and keeping them running efficiently -- my CPU goes into the 90%'s merely using Geany..
[02:32] <acer_> I bought an Acer Aspire 3680 new for $400
[02:32] <sebas_> !ati
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <acer_> Ubuntu Linux works real well on it
[02:32] <wepeel> I have a printer installed on my desktop, It's shared. How do I use the printer from my laptop (both lappie and desktop are connnected through a router)
[02:32] <pw> yeah I saw that, it says it should 'just work' with network manager, but I guess it doesn't
[02:32] <piratenin> Can ubuntu burn ISOs without me downoading anything new?
[02:32] <novato_br> what is the name of this song? --> http://stiod.com.br/blog/?p=25
[02:32] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: if it's converting to MPG 2 or 4 you could see some performance loss but that should near to nothing. backup you config give it a try and if you really feel you miss something you can always go back :)
[02:33] <TaJMoX> wepeel : is your desktop an ubuntu machine ?
[02:33] <ekimus> piratenin: it can but i'm pretty sure it won't burn something you don't have on your harddisk :)
[02:33] <satx> piratenin: Yes
[02:33] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus: yea but the whole things useless if the wireless card deosn't work because it doesn't know whats on TV and when to record
[02:33] <wepeel> TaJMoX: both machines are
[02:33] <cwillu> piratenin, you'll still need to download the 32 bit cd, but it includes an iso writer already
[02:34] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: if there are 64bit drivers then there are 32bit drivers too
[02:34] <acer_> I haven't tried to burn an ISO on Ubuntu yet.  Try it and see.  Won't cost you anything.
[02:34] <omegacenti> Using file browser, I cannot paste a file into a directory. How do I fix this?
[02:34] <cwillu> acer_, I haven't had any issues burning iso's;  dead simple
[02:34] <mzanfardino1>  I'm looking to connect to a linksys router using vpn.  I have an account and the client only comes for windows.  Is there vpn client software for ubuntu?
[02:34] <pw> er, wrong button -- my problem still stands though
[02:35] <cwillu> mzanfardino1, what kinda of vpn?
[02:35] <piratenin> I know
[02:35] <piratenin> Im downloading it
[02:35] <piratenin> at 1,800 kbs
[02:35] <pw> that wpasupplicant thing *is* installed
[02:35] <piratenin> so time isn't a factor, I just need to know if I can burn ISO files or not right now
[02:35] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: hmm... not sure.  the router is by linksys
[02:35] <ekimus> piratenin: where are you from. that's quite a nice connection :)
[02:36] <TaJMoX> wepeel this looked good : http://occy.net/printing
[02:36] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: they have their own client called QuickVPN for windows
[02:36] <chump> hi can someone help me to get my sensor monitor to run ? i have lm-sensor can someone help me with i2c kernel module please ?
[02:36] <piratenin> I have that new verizon fios fiber optic system
[02:36] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: I see in apt that there are a few vpn clients
[02:36] <chump> !i2c
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i2c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: so I suppose I might just try them...
[02:36] <wepeel> TaJMoX: my printer is not a networking printer. But shouldn't I be able to acces it somehow? My desktop is always running btw, it's configured as a web server
[02:36] <omegacenti> Using file browser, I cannot paste a file into a directory (Permission denied). How do I fix this?
[02:36] <CokeMan> is there some way that applicatins use ports and dont close them or something?
[02:36] <cwillu> piratenin, you should absolutely be able to burn iso's, right now
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> piratenin: you're lucky... whats your question bout the iso file?
[02:36] <TaJMoX> pw : it is a very commonly asked thing for WPA - the answer for sure is on the internet and is probably too detailed to be explained in a few lines on IRC
[02:36] <pipatron>   pw: Found no creature matching the pattern /: it is a very commonly asked thing for WPA - the answer for sure is on the internet and is probably too detailed to be explained in a few lines on IRC/.
[02:36] <doenner> Q: how secure is ubuntu? I mean, do i have to do something to protect my system? (like software firewalls / antivir in windows)
[02:36] <cwillu> mzanfardino1, find out if its a pptp, cisco vpn, etc
[02:37] <cwillu> probably the cisco one (can't remember the actual name)
[02:37] <pw> well I looked on the doc page, if you could direct me elsewhere I would be grateful
[02:37] <wepeel> TaJMoX: Ah, I think one issue I might have is that I don't have a LAN set up :(
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> doenner: a hardware firewall is always a good idea, i hate software firewalls, antivirus will not be necessary
[02:37] <acer_> Some routers have built in VPN support.  I've never used it though.
[02:37] <doenner> thx, IndyGunFreak
[02:37] <wepeel> TaJMoX: That should be pretty staightforward in Linux, yes?
[02:37] <TaJMoX> wepeel if your computers are connected to a router - that is a LAN
[02:37] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: ok, one sec
[02:37] <hatter> i have a dual ati 9200 video card that will only clone, using the radeon driver,  i cannot get it to span with xinerama, has anyone else had this problem ?
[02:37] <ekimus> any way to tell dpkg in a preferences file to alwas --force-architecture?
[02:38] <sebas_> I'm trying to install the ati drivers but I don't understand something in the ubuntu help: The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series. Does that mean that my 9200 card is supported?
[02:38] <TaJMoX> wepeel - computer one could be 192.168.1.100 computer two 192.168.1.101   etc etc
[02:38] <cwillu> hatter, don't use xinerama for that card, use mergedfb
[02:38] <wepeel> TaJMoX: Ok, forgive me. last time I networked computers was in wondows , where one had to set up the windows networking stuff, etc
[02:38] <crdlb> sebas_, it's not
[02:38] <santi> HI :D
[02:38] <cwillu> sebas_, the 9200 series is supported by the radeon driver iirc
[02:38] <hatter> cwillu, can i use mergedfb with 2 other cards also,  i have 2 pci video cards that span across 3 monitors
[02:38] <crdlb> sebas_, support was dropped after 8.28.8
[02:38] <TaJMoX> wepeel i haven't done printer sharing in linux - but i assume there are good guides out there
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> piratenin: what progran are yo uusing to burn ISOs?
[02:38] <crdlb> sebas_, unless you need tv out, the free driver works excellently
[02:39] <cwillu> hatter, you can do it as a slightly odd mix of merged fb and xinerama (I've got a machine with 5 9250's set up like that), but 3d acceleration won't work
[02:39] <wepeel> TaJMoX: Thanks for your help
[02:39] <cwillu> hatter, set up each individual card as a merged fb, and then set up a xinerama server layout using all the cards
[02:39] <piratenin> I don't know what program I am using to burn ISOs
[02:39] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: the word is that the vpn is pptp
[02:39] <cwillu> hatter, I can get you an example xorg.conf
[02:39] <OhMyAudi> Hey all What is different about the nvidia-glx-new package?  The description is the exact same as the nvidia-glx package???
[02:39] <piratenin> apperently ubuntu already can
[02:40] <piratenin> I just need to know how, took like 3 minutes to download the file
[02:40] <sebas_> crdlb: i just don't understand why I can't enable the desktop effects now and my desktop does not run smoothly. Could it be possible that the driver got uninstalled?
[02:40] <hatter> cwillu, awesome, thx,  i have been stuffing around for 2 days since i got my fourth monitor
[02:40] <cwillu> piratenin, right click on the iso file
[02:40] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: should I use pptp-linux then?
[02:40] <OhMyAudi> !nvidia-glx-new
[02:40] <hatter> ati, nvidia.  grrrrrr
[02:40] <crdlb> sebas_, possibly you're using vesa
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> piratenin: if you're using Ubuntu, i'd recommend either Gnomebaker or K3b.. both are quite good.
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-glx-new - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <crdlb> sebas_, come to #ubuntu-effects
[02:40] <cwillu> mzanfardino1, now, your best bet is to lookup a guide for connecting linux to a pptp vpn (it's a bit out of scope for this channel)
[02:40] <piratenin> k it's writing
[02:40] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: or maybe kvpnc since I'm actually running kubuntu with kde
[02:40] <hatter> it seems the fglrx driver doesnt work with xorg 7.2
[02:41] <cwillu> mzanfardino1, I'm pretty sure it's possible in principle, although you might need to tweak the vpn server's config
[02:41] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: ok, good enough.  I have a start
[02:41] <hatter> cwillu, would you like to email me the xorg.conf ?
[02:41] <cwillu> hatter, one sec
[02:41] <mzanfardino1> cwillu: thank you
[02:42] <mag_> join #windows
[02:43] <cwillu> hatter:  http://pastebin.ca/549154
[02:43] <cwillu> hatter, couple things to note
[02:44] <hatter> cwillu, thx :)
[02:44] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus: i need the 64 bit driver i have the 32 bit driver
[02:44] <OhMyAudi> Hey all What is different about the nvidia-glx-new package?  The description is the exact same as the nvidia-glx package???
[02:44] <cwillu> that's going to run 800x600 on each display, to change it, you need to change Virtual 1600x600 in each screen section, as well as Option "MetaModes" in each Device section
[02:44] <ekimus> what2dowhat2do: then you share a common problem :)
[02:45] <lakcaj> Where would I go to suggest a UI change for the next Ubuntu release?
[02:45] <cwillu> hatter, also, any head that doesn't have a monitor plugged in when the machine _boots_ won't come up until you reboot with something plugged into it (9250 glitch)
[02:45] <hatter> cwillu, i have a  mix ,  one 9200 dual head, and 2 s3 pci cards,  do you think mergedfb will work on the s3 cards ?
[02:46] <cwillu> hatter, have to check the man pages for the s3 cards
[02:46] <preaction> !launchpad | lakcaj
[02:46] <ubotu> lakcaj: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:46] <cwillu> hatter, your problem _there_ will be if the s3 drivers will get along with the radeon drivers, regarding the pci bus
[02:46] <what2dowhat2do> ekimus haha yea i know thats why i'm just going to install the 32 bit... i'm downloading the ISO now
[02:46] <lakcaj> thanks preaction
[02:46] <cwillu> hatter, there's some options in man xorg.conf that may be useful
[02:47] <loquillo_> hola a to2
[02:47] <hatter> cwillu, they do,  the are all on now, just the dual heads are being cloned
[02:47] <ekimus> hmm will aptitude still choose amd64 if i have "force-architecture" in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg?
[02:47] <cwillu> hatter, also, if you do sudo Xorg --configure, it'll dump out a xorg.conf file into your home directory which should in theory be a working multihead config
[02:47] <cwillu> hatter, okay, then ya, just copy the merged fb stuff;  you'll still need to check the docs for the s3 cards if they're also cloning, I don't think they'll take the same options
[02:48] <cwillu> hatter, also, the monitor layout options are important to have exactly as they are :p
[02:48] <what2dowhat2do> i'm leaving... thanks for your help
[02:48] <cwillu> don't try to 'fix' them :p
[02:49] <hatter> cwillu, ok thx,  the S3 cards and the one ati card all spanning with xinerama, so hoepfully...
[02:49] <jl> hi everybody
[02:49] <JK_the_CJer> hey everyone
[02:50] <JK_the_CJer> anybody willing to help me out with something that should be really simple and quick?
[02:50] <cwillu> famous last words
[02:50] <eric> !ipod
[02:50] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:50] <JK_the_CJer> lol, indeed
[02:50] <cwillu> ("dem4b has quit". that is) :p
[02:50] <jl> i have a problem with mplayer when i go fullscreen the video doesn't zoom i mean it keeps its 1:1 size
[02:51] <jl> i'm using the x11 output video
[02:51] <cwillu> hatter, the _real_ trick is getting independant keyboards and mice working on each head;  :)
[02:51] <cwillu> JK_the_CJer, what's the problem?\
[02:51] <JK_the_CJer> I accidently Removed from Panel my update notification applet, and now i cant seem to find it again.  It was always in my panel but grey until an update was available and it turned orange (i think)
[02:51] <Enyara> hey all, i'm trying to get GLX to work under feisty, however no luck what so ever
[02:52] <hatter> cwillu, ooh yeah,  thats a cool idea
[02:52] <Enyara> I have an ATI X1550 on 64bit Feisty
[02:52] <cwillu> JK_the_CJer, right click, add to panel, find the notification thingy, and drag it back
[02:52] <jl> any ideas?
[02:52] <hatter> cwillu. have you done this ?
[02:52] <cwillu> hatter, I've got three of them set up
[02:52] <wols_> !ati | Enyara
[02:52] <ubotu> Enyara: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <ryanakca> macd: ah, thanks, I've got it working :) http://arctic.org/~dean/rdiff-backup/unattended.html
[02:52] <cwillu> biggest one is 10 stations :)
[02:52] <Enyara> wols: already been there :p
[02:52] <hatter> cwillu, nice :)  using usb k/bs and mice ?
[02:53] <JK_the_CJer> anyone know how to add the update notification icon back into the main panel?
[02:53] <cwillu> yep;  udev's been handy
[02:53] <cwillu> JK_the_CJer, the update notification comes and goes automatically
[02:53] <cwillu> JK_the_CJer, what you need is the notification area itself, if you removed it
[02:53] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know of a good program that will show me everything thats inside my computer. (my RAM, hard drives, cpu, video, dvd/cd, etc..) and specific detailed about them?
[02:53] <hatter> cwillu,  is there wireless usb ?
[02:53] <wepeel> TaJMoX: are you still around?
[02:53] <hatter> ah, wireless k/bs
[02:53] <cwillu> hatter, nah, we're too cheap for that
[02:54] <TaJMoX> wepeel kinda
[02:54] <wepeel> TaJMoX, thankyouthankyouthankyou
[02:54] <Enyara> i've tried envy, i've tried a manual install from the ATI site, keeps giving me this message:
[02:54] <JK_the_CJer> i must be remembering incorrectly,  i thought it stayed there but was grey until updates were available
[02:54] <hatter> maybe bluetooth
[02:54] <Enyara> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
[02:54] <Enyara> dlopen: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:54] <TaJMoX> wepeel its working?
[02:54] <JK_the_CJer> ill just wait for the next set of updates and see, thanks
[02:54] <cwillu> hatter, the whole machine cost about 500 including keyboards and whatnot
[02:54] <wepeel> TaJMoX: got it working. Forgot to restart cups, but when I did it's perfect
[02:54] <hatter> enyara, are you trying the fglrx driver ?
[02:54] <Enyara> yes
[02:54] <cwillu> JK_the_CJer, grey means you've got some update manager'ish program open (synaptic, etc)
[02:54] <TaJMoX> wepeel congrats - glad i could help
[02:54] <wepeel> TaJMoX: thanks!
[02:54] <hatter> i just suffered the same problem.  it wouldnt work for me.
[02:54] <JK_the_CJer> ah, i see
[02:55] <hatter> the ati and radeon drivers work
[02:55] <xerophyte> I have IBM Thinkpad T43, and have 7.04 on it .. i can not get the Fn+f7 to work to switch between the desktop and laptop does anybody know why ?
[02:55] <Enyara> 64bit feisty aswell?
[02:55] <wepeel> ok, now I can work in the living room where it's now 100, 000 degrees
[02:55] <wepeel> bye
[02:55] <cwillu> Enyara, what video card?
[02:55] <aw> u
[02:55] <ekimus> damn zimbra is picky...
[02:55] <Enyara> ATI X1550
[02:55] <wols_> Enyara: dpkg -l |grep fglrx
[02:55] <hatter> Enyara, its a dual head ?
[02:55] <Enyara> yes
[02:55] <cwillu> hatter, ftr, ati automatically uses the radeon driver if it detects a radeon card
[02:56] <Enyara> wols_: pm?
[02:56] <wols_> !pm
[02:56] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[02:56] <foug> my "errors" folder is 2.1GB, is this normal?
[02:56] <wols_> Enyara: no
[02:56] <Enyara> i dont want to spam, but ok
[02:56] <wols_> foug: what errors folder
[02:56] <Enyara> here it comes
[02:56] <Enyara> # dpkg -l |grep fglrx
[02:56] <Enyara> ii  fglrx-amdcccle                             8.37.6-1                               Catalyst Control Center for the ATI graphics
[02:56] <Enyara> ii  fglrx-kernel-2.6.20-16-generic             8.37.6-1+2.6.20-16.28                  ATI binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.20-16
[02:56] <Enyara> ii  fglrx-kernel-source                        8.37.6-1                               Kernel module source for the ATI graphics ac
[02:56] <wols_> !pastebin | Enyara
[02:56] <ubotu> Enyara: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <Enyara> ii  xorg-driver-fglrx                          8.37.6-1                               Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerato
[02:56] <Enyara> ii  xorg-driver-fglrx-dev                      8.36.5-1                               Video driver for the ATI graphics accelerato
[02:56] <Enyara> too late :p
[02:56] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know of a good program that will show me everything thats inside my computer. (my RAM, hard drives, cpu, video, dvd/cd, etc..) and specific detailed about them?
[02:56] <foug> wols_: o god nevermind, was in my WoW folder...lol
[02:57] <wols_> Enyara: yes it's too late. HAND. good day
[02:57] <foug> wols_: btw did you use to be in a #litestep channel?
[02:57] <wols_> foug: I still am
[02:57] <anandanbu> does anybody here use cairo-dock without an problems and can somebody help me
[02:57] <foug> wols_: lol, i got help from you about 4 months ago, maybe less
[02:57] <hatter> tarkus, i know a good hardware device... a flashlight :)
[02:57] <ekimus> Tarkus: lspci is the command your searching for, forgot the package name :)
[02:57] <cwillu> hatter, well, if you're ever going to give the multi-seat a shot, might want to give me a shout;  I had customize a couple apps that weren't in the repositories to make it work
[02:58] <cwillu> hatter, most of the guides out there still have stability issues, which I don't have
[02:58] <hatter> cwillu, i would like to do this,  i have some customers I am keen on doing this with
[02:58] <hatter> cwillu, are in this channel often ?
[02:58] <cwillu> once in a while;  cwillu@cwillu.com is a better way to get in touch
[02:59] <carajea1> heya guys :) Anyone ever experience skipping audio in XMMS player? This started yesterday just randomly. I tried uninstall reinstall but that was no good. Any ideas where to start? And yes xmms is the only one that skips every other audio player movie viewer is perfect
[02:59] <Enyara> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24656/
[02:59] <wols_> cwillu: curious, what software did you use? cause I need to do a multiseat as well
[02:59] <wols_> cwillu: xephyr? faketty? something else?
[02:59] <bruenig> carajea1, does it skip with any regularity. Totem at one time would skip sort of when I did something cpu intensive like moving windows all over the place really quickly
[03:00] <hatter> cwillu: great, thx :)
[03:00] <cwillu> wols_, hatter, normal xinerama/mergedfb config, Xephyr nested xservers in each window, an app call xevdevserver which I patched to fix some glitches mapping input to each display, and some custom scripts to manage the whole mess
[03:00] <lakcaj> preaction - I can see "Latest Proposed Features" and I've registered, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to add a proposed feature.
[03:00] <cwillu> wols_, hatter, I suppose I should get a web site up with the package now, huh :p
[03:00] <TaJMoX> carajea1 : re-installing things aren't really the way to solve problems in linux - try going into options and check your settings in the Audio I/O tab- specifically MP3 or CD or whatever is skipping audio
[03:00] <carajea1> yeah the regularity is all the time with no winodws open playing a file on my computer and even when streaming.
[03:01] <carajea1> before this it played perfectly
[03:01] <hatter> cwillu, if you get the time :)
[03:01] <TaJMoX> carajea1 : does it only skip in xmms or do other programs skip too
[03:01] <bruenig> TaJMoX, he answered that
[03:01] <carajea1> only in xmms
[03:01] <cwillu> wols_, hatter, apparently xgl can be used instead of xephyr to get 3d acceleration, but I've had stability issues with the setup _only_ while using xgl :)
[03:01] <k31th> tbird vs evo which is best
[03:01] <carajea1> its skips on anything audio with xmms all the other work fine
[03:01] <bruenig> carajea1, xmms issue probably
[03:01] <cwillu> hatter, wols_, send me an email (cwillu@cwillu.com) if you want me to let you know when I have something up
[03:01] <wols_> cwillu: office use in my case only. no 3D
[03:02] <carajea1> i just listen to shoutcast a lot and that was the only player i new of that would handle this
[03:02] <carajea1> if you know another prog. that can handle shoutcast feel free to tell me
[03:02] <bruenig> exaile
[03:02] <mneptok> carajea1: totem
[03:02] <hatter> cwillu; cool
[03:02] <TaJMoX> carajea1 : you can reset your xmms configuration by doing rm -rf ~/.xmms      un-installing doesn't do this
[03:02] <Phocion> hey all...what's the dvd lib I need to install that doesn't automatically come pre-installed?
[03:02] <ace__> i recently updated and my kernel update overwrite my grub file, now I am unable to boot to my xp partition, I cant remember my root pass, is their anyway to restore my grub configuration?
[03:02] <Phocion> forget the name
[03:02] <cwillu> Phocion, libdecss I think?
[03:02] <cwillu> something like that
[03:03] <cwillu> !css
[03:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:03] <Phocion> ah yes
[03:03] <Phocion> thanks all
[03:03] <cwillu> ace__, recover kernel will give you a root prompt
[03:03] <Blip> can someone tell me how to make a user for vsftpd and deny his access to kernel?
[03:03] <cwillu> recovery rather
[03:03] <Enyara> wols_: did you read the paste?
[03:03] <Phocion> just got me new Dell about 2 hours ago :)
[03:03] <ekimus> Blip: define "deny access to kernel"
[03:03] <mneptok> Blip: why are you using FTP. do you need anonymous service?
[03:04] <Blip> ekimus: sorry.. i meant to shell
[03:04] <TaJMoX> carajea1 I use rhythmbox for streaming audio - mostly shoutcast
[03:04] <Blip> mneptok: yes
[03:04] <wols_> Blip: set his shell to /bin/false
[03:04] <ekimus> Blip: generally only users in /etc/ftpusers have access to ftp and for no shell just add a normal user and set the shell to /bin/false
[03:04] <mneptok> wols_: /dev/null
[03:05] <wols_> mneptok: no
[03:05] <mneptok> wols_: but it's fun! ;)
[03:05] <ace__> cwillu: can you explain
[03:05] <wols_> mneptok: don't tell people bad advice in here
[03:05] <carajea1> ok i was just about to say i cant find totem in the add/remove
[03:05] <Blip> ekimus, wols_: thanks
[03:06] <mneptok> wols_: i told you
[03:06] <cwillu> ace__, the grub menu will give you an option to boot with a recovery kernel, which will give you a root prompt without a password (assuming that's what you were asking)
[03:06] <wols_> mneptok: it's still bad advice
[03:06] <cwillu> ace__, other than that, there's a guide on the website on recovering grub mishaps
[03:06] <ace__> k, thanks
[03:06] <cwillu> !grub
[03:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <carajea1> hey here is something i wanna ask. I just got this new speaker set and i have a x-fi. I know as of right now its not supported but ... is there a sound card that is supported under linux?? I am having trouble getting the right sound I want.
[03:07] <wols_> carajea1: sb-live. cheap and supported
[03:07] <carajea1> ok :(
[03:07] <carajea1> i wee step down
[03:07] <mneptok> carajea1: the SB PCI-512s are cheap and plentiful
[03:08] <_xxtlosxx_> Hey guys, I am having sound issues on a new Dell latitude D531.  Any ideas?
[03:08] <_xxtlosxx_> Where do I start
[03:08] <wols_> carajea1: look atl alsa-project.org if that doesn't suit you
[03:08] <wols_> !sound | _xxtlosxx_
[03:08] <ubotu> _xxtlosxx_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:08] <crimsun> carajea1: actually it depends which specific X-Fi Extreme model.
[03:08] <spasticteapot> carajea1: M-audio Audiophile will work, with some tweaking.
[03:08] <spasticteapot> It's a better soundcard IMO.
[03:08] <crimsun> carajea1: the X-Fi Extreme Audios are supported, but nothing "better"
[03:08] <_xxtlosxx_> It doesn't allow me to double click on volume control
[03:08] <_xxtlosxx_> alsamixer doesn't find any elements
[03:09] <Enyara> can anybody help me with the GLX problem i explained before?
[03:09] <hatter> cwillu, you need to state the desktop size with the virtual 1600 600 with mergedfb ?
[03:09] <cwillu> hatter, yes, as well as specifying the size of each display in the device section ("metamodes")
[03:09] <carajea1> yeah i have the extreme music
[03:09] <hatter> that will be a problem if so, because the 2 pairs of monitors are different sizes
[03:09] <cwillu> hatter, the shared fb size rather
[03:09] <crimsun> carajea1: you'll have to wait until next year for Creative Labs's binary-only drivers.
[03:09] <carajea1> yeah im gonna make a dual boot tonight
[03:10] <hatter> cwillu, xinerama doesnt care about the monitor sizes
[03:10] <captaintrips> hello. im a bit confused here
[03:10] <sebas_> were the free drivers developed "just" by reverse engineering?
[03:10] <cwillu> hatter, they still share a frame buffer,
[03:10] <crimsun> sebas_: which free drivers?
[03:10] <carajea1> ok no im not gonna dual boot im gonna make linux work for me my way
[03:10] <carajea1> hehehe
[03:10] <captaintrips> i do iwconfig and it detects my wireless card fine but when i do iwspy ath0 scan it says interface doesnt support ip addresses
[03:10] <sebas_> crimsun: the graphic free drivers
[03:10] <hatter> cwillu, ok
[03:10] <crimsun> sebas_: some were.
[03:11] <sebas_> wow that's impressive, crimsun
[03:11] <jarrod> whats the site that lets u paste large amouts of text to avoid flooding the room
[03:11] <captaintrips> pastebin
[03:11] <cwillu> hatter, you might have some issues with having the screen scroll around on the smaller display (the buffer has to be square, which causes problems here)
[03:11] <lockd> jarrod: but there are lots of pastebins
[03:11] <captaintrips> ath0      Interface doesn't support IP addresses
[03:11] <captaintrips> any ideas?
[03:11] <Tarkus> my system is running sluggish with opening and browsing files with the GUI. also with compiz effects (they get jumpy and fps looks slow). so i made a new user to see if it was something wrong with my "~/.files" , and it works perfectly fine with that user, everything is nic and fast.. any idea what i need to change in ~/ to get it to act normal?
[03:11] <cwillu> hatter, if you can arrange to keep displays on the same card at the same resolution, it'll be simpler :)
[03:12] <Sam6464> I cant login to my ubuntu, i enter the information and i get a tan screen or a "your session lasted less than 10 seconds" error message Please help!
[03:12] <cwillu> Sam6464, did you install anything or do anything to cause it that you know of?
[03:12] <cables> My friend's ubuntu box logs off whenever the screensaver turns on. It's not set to lock the screen, and it's actually fully logging off (it goes to the GDM screen). Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?
[03:12] <cwillu> Sam6464, aka, what was the last thing you did before it broke?
[03:13] <Sam6464> Integrity checks are fine
[03:13] <lockd> Sam6464: are you on another computer or are you using failsafe session
[03:13] <Sam6464> i couldnt do anything
[03:13] <eric> is there a *nix command similar to 'comm' that compares two directories and allows me to surpress the output similar to 'comm -12 file1 file2'
[03:13] <eric> ?
[03:13] <Sam6464> im using the live cd boot up
[03:13] <lockd> Sam6464: were you able to log into a failsafe terminal?
[03:13] <Sam6464> no, i cant login to anything
[03:13] <SaveFerris> X fails to start, claims no screens found. I did the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsserver-xorg and startx and i still get the same thing
[03:13] <lockd> Sam6464: even on a tty?
[03:13] <cwillu> eric, diff can probably be made to do it
[03:13] <Sam6464> tty?
[03:14] <cwillu> Sam6464, dos mode :p
[03:14] <lockd> Sam6464: like <ctrl><alt><F1>
[03:14] <eric> cwillu: hmm, i'll look into, thanks :)
[03:14] <Sam6464> oh yeah, i can do that
[03:14] <lockd> cwillu: hopefully you don't have DOS installed
[03:14] <_xxtlosxx_> I have an ATI soundcard, but it won't detect it.... I don't get why
[03:14] <lockd> cwillu: or even a boot disk, in these days
[03:14] <ekimus> what's the proper way to disable /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh on boot? just chmod -x or is there anything better to do?
[03:14] <cwillu> lockd, I'm just mocking the linux terminal :p
[03:15] <_xxtlosxx_> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB600 Azalia
[03:15] <Sam6464> the error mesage point me in the direction of xsession but the last line says that it was just booting up
[03:15] <Sam6464> i also waited for like 30 minutes with the tan screen and nothing happened
[03:15] <cwillu> ekimus, /etc/rc<number>.d contains the files run at different times on boot
[03:15] <cwillu> ekimus, there's an app to add/remove /etc/init.d entries from the rc.d folders
[03:15] <ekimus> cwillu: not for hwclock.sh i'm afraid
[03:15] <SaveFerris> Can someone help me get xserver to start, it's claiming no screens found
[03:16] <captaintrips> does anyone here use wireless?
[03:16] <cwillu> ekimus, look at /etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh :p
[03:16] <ekimus> aha in rc6 but isn't that reboot?
[03:17] <scales11> hello all i am in a bit of a bind.  i was playing with fedoras live cd and loaded it to my ram.  somehow it screwed up my mbr.  i have two partitions aside from swap, ubuntu and windows xp.  as of now all i see in grub is multiple entries for ubuntu and none for windows.  anyone willing to help?
[03:17] <luke-jr_> Unknown host ubuntu.org
[03:18] <crimsun> .com
[03:18] <cwillu> SaveFerris, did the dpkg line actually give you a series of menus?
[03:18] <luke-jr_> o
[03:18] <SaveFerris> cwillu: yup, went through all of those fine to the best of my knowledge
[03:18] <captaintrips> scalesll use the windows cd and go into the recovery console and type fixboot and fixmbr. u will have to reload grub, but that will put the nt loader back
[03:19] <luke-jr_> do Gutsy pkgs work in Feisty
[03:19] <luke-jr_> ?
[03:19] <cwillu> SaveFerris, try it again, but just hit enter for everything (everything selected should be the detected settings)
[03:19] <scales11> captaintrips: thanks i will give that a go and report back
[03:19] <eric> cwillu: diff -rq dirA dirB !!! thanks buddy :)
[03:19] <cwillu> luke-jr_, sometimes, but don't count on it
[03:19] <luke-jr_> cwillu: are there backports?
[03:20] <luke-jr_> there's an Ubuntu user that has a buggy video driver
[03:20] <cwillu> luke-jr_, case by case basis, I'm not sure there's anything official yet
[03:20] <SaveFerris> cwillu: alright, it's up, guess i was reading too much and not just pressing enter the first time, thx, peace
[03:21] <CHINASKI> hi room
[03:21] <cwillu> It's too bad there isn't a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg line that didn't ask questions, that was also easy to remember :p
[03:22] <captaintrips> i got lucky as hell yesterday. lol
[03:22] <captaintrips> was working on my car and made the stupid mistake of not putting blocks behind the tires. friend leaned on it and it rolled off the jack and landed on my foot
[03:22] <CHINASKI> anybody knows about configure a webcam in amsn for ubuntu and speak in spanish? :P
[03:22] <captaintrips> but it just bruised the hell out of it, nothing broken thankfully :)
[03:23] <kranol> whats the key shortcut to search your command history in gnome terminal again?
[03:23] <Xofoco> hola !
[03:23] <captaintrips> up arrow? lol
[03:23] <captaintrips> hola :)
[03:23] <kranol> up arrow doesnt search :)
[03:24] <kranol> TELL ME OR DIE
[03:24] <ekimus> cwillu: hmm there isn't? i thought it was just about setting the question level to expert. theres some setting that does that, can't remember where :/
[03:24] <ekimus> !language > kranol
[03:24] <cwillu> ekimus, you missed the bit about "easy to remember" :p
[03:24] <cwillu> but thanks for demonstrating my point :)
[03:24] <carajea1> ok now here is a question how to setup rhythem box to play shoutcast
[03:24] <carajea1> ?
[03:24] <CHINASKI> anybody knows about configure a webcam in amsn for ubuntu and speak in spanish? :P
[03:24] <klav> Does anyone know where istanbul records to? (default)
[03:25] <ekimus> cwillu: yup but i seldomly remember static settings. dpkg-reconfigure is something that i do often in contrast to configuring dpkg itself :)
[03:25] <Zemus> !resolution
[03:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:28] <kranol> ah its ctrl+R captaintrips!
[03:29] <ekimus> any reason for a package to fail installing because the kernel is 64bit when the system is 32bit? (yes the kernel has 32bit binary support)
[03:29] <madman91> do you guys ever feel the lack of motivation?
[03:29] <ekimus> in which field?
[03:29] <madman91> programming
[03:30] <cwillu> standard cry of the creative:  "where is my motivation!?"
[03:30] <madman91> lol
[03:30] <cwillu> madman91, but in what sense? :p
[03:30] <madman91> cwillu: but seriously.. i want to learn C .. but its just .. so boring..
[03:30] <ekimus> hmm never understood the difference between programming and gaming. a compiler is quite a complex gamemaster better than most AIs in games :)
[03:30] <cwillu> madman91, why in heaven would you want to do something like that?
[03:31] <ekimus> madman91: if it's boring jump to pointer arithmetics :)
[03:31] <cwillu> madman91, what are you familiar with already?
[03:31] <madman91> cwillu: C .. and visual basic.. but thats not really a language
[03:31] <Tarkus> my system is running sluggish with opening and browsing files with the GUI. also with compiz effects (they get jumpy and fps looks slow). so i made a new user to see if it was something wrong with my "~/.files" , and it works perfectly fine with that user, everything is nice and fast.. any idea what i need to change in ~/ to get it to act normal?
[03:31] <omegacenti> How do you run File Browser as root?
[03:31] <madman91> ekimus: yeah.. that should be better.. but its still like.. meh
[03:31] <madman91> omegacenti: gksudo nautilus
[03:32] <cwillu> madman91, I'd suggest looking at python and javascript;  easy to play with and you can do useful stuff;  keep reading small bits of c as you're able to digest it, in time it'll come
[03:32] <cables> omegacenti, hit alt-f2, type gksudo nautilus
[03:32] <scales11> captaintrips: well i tried to fix it from the windows cd, but it prompts me for a password which i do not know.  any other options?
[03:32] <vbabiy> Hey guys how are you
[03:32] <madman91> cwillu: no, I've decided on C
[03:32] <cwillu> madman91, don't try to learn c from a manual though, find some package you're interested in, get it building, and then play with modifying that
[03:32] <ekimus> madman91: how about python? quite a nice syntax OO and functional programming possible, fast progress (imho)
[03:32] <cables> Tarkus, why don't you just use the new account and import the parts of your old settings you want to keep? I can't really think of what would be causing that.
[03:33] <cables> madman91, I started w/ Python about a week ago, and I'm liking it (I know Perl already, but have been a bit rusty lately)
[03:33] <slop> how do i format an SD card?
[03:33] <cwillu> madman91, just be aware that c isn't anything special as far as languages are concerned, lit's only really useful for tactical stuff (i.e., if you're planning on writing an os, hacking the kernel, or modifying something else already written in c)
[03:33] <madman91> cwillu: c cccccc
[03:33] <cwillu> madman91, what type of stuff do you want to work on?
[03:33] <ekimus> cables: he, personally i tried perl about a dozen times but never got quite along with all those predifend variables :)
[03:33] <madman91> cwillu: C stuff :)
[03:34] <cables> ekimus, I started w/ Perl because that's what my dad knew...
[03:34] <madman91> cwillu: maybe look at some driver stuff (way down the line) .. i would like to edit C programs
[03:34] <ekimus> madman91: you could write something for me
[03:34] <slop> anyone know how to format a removable drive?
[03:34] <SirBarnes> how do I use my laptop with a projector so I can see on the display and project?
[03:34] <madman91> ekimus: :D
[03:34] <cables> madman91, how much programming knowledge do you have?
[03:34] <cwillu> madman91, without a clear goal, you're going to have a hard time learning it directly
[03:34] <illriginal> Hey what's up guys, I have a problem! For some reason I get an error when I attempt to delete folders from my Recycling Bin. Can anyone help?
[03:34] <brussel> I want to assign the LP to a vmware guest but can't because it's used already. I'm thinking I could do something like netstat pantu | grep something to find out what process has it, but don't know which port... Can anybody help here?
[03:34] <cables> illriginal, what error?
[03:34] <cwillu> madman91, but as I said, find a c program that you're interested, get it building from source, and then starting learning c by modifying that program
[03:35] <madman91> cwillu: i tried that
[03:35] <illriginal> cales: /home/illrig...hort_tag.Po" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[03:35] <ekimus> madman91: i need a tool that searches in ldap for specific objectclasses outputs the result as an ldif compares to an existing ldif and then outputs a diff of those 2 in ldif format. configurable wether to delete attributes/entries.
[03:35] <madman91> cwillu: even with such simple source code as mv and cp
[03:35] <scales11> anyone know how to make ubuntu write to ntfs?
[03:35] <cables> !ntfs | scales11
[03:35] <ubotu> scales11: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:35] <cables> scales11, just go to Add/Remove and type in "ntfs"
[03:35] <madman91> ekimus: lol
[03:35] <cwillu> scales11, ntfs-3g and related
[03:35] <CokeMan> has anyone had problems with azurues? It seems to be crashing because it wants to use the same incomming IP, i see in the logs its attempting to get that when i open it. is there any reason it would not be released after azureus is closed?
[03:35] <cwillu> madman91, and?  :)
[03:36] <SirBarnes> how do I make my laptop project to a projector without blanking my display
[03:36] <brussel> Anybody know how to determine what process is using a printer port?
[03:36] <captaintrips> sorry for the slow response scalesll  i just hit enter when it asks for a password and it usually works
[03:36] <illriginal> cables, these folders have files in which I used in order to install programs such as nicotine for example.
[03:36] <madman91> cwillu: its like whoah
[03:36] <cwillu> brussel, look at lsof, I believe
[03:36] <scales11> captaintrips: i tried that, and it didnt like me
[03:36] <brussel> thanks cvillu
[03:36] <cables> SirBarnes, multiple monitor plug-and-play support is a real sore point in Linux, it's probably not possible without trickery.
[03:36] <cwillu> madman91, too much, or what?
[03:36] <ekimus> madman91: why not try that? at least that's a target. it's only boring if you have no target to achieve. there isn't such a tool yet. there's one similiar tool (ldapdiff) but that just immediately updates the server. so you have a codebase to start working on...
[03:36] <captaintrips> how odd
[03:36] <cables> illriginal, couldn't you just copy those over to the new one?
[03:36] <scales11> captaintrips: i hate how it passwords like that
[03:37] <illriginal> huh?
[03:37] <captaintrips> no idea why, mine doesnt have one. never has
[03:37] <SirBarnes> I really love Ubuntu....I ditched Windows for it, but I have to use my laptop to teach, and this is a pain
[03:37] <cables> scales11, you won't need to enter a pw when writing to ntfs with the solution I gave you (search for NTFS in Add/Remove)
[03:37] <cables> !dualhead | SirBarnes, this may help, but I'm not sure
[03:37] <madman91> ekimus: :D lol
[03:37] <ubotu> SirBarnes, this may help, but I'm not sure: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[03:37] <madman91> cwillu: yeah.. its all funky like whoah
[03:38] <SirBarnes> thx for the response cables
[03:38] <cwillu> madman91, question:  why do you need to learn c?
[03:38] <cables> madman91, you should learn something easier before C!
[03:38] <madman91> cwillu: to be able to modify parts of linux.. and so i can learn higher level languages later with ease
[03:38] <cwillu> SirBarnes, I know there's some packages about that make dealing with laptop video outputs easier, just don't know the names offhand
[03:38] <illriginal> #kubuntu
[03:38] <madman91> cables: nah
[03:39] <madman91> i went through this entire debate in my head.. c java python perl ruby .
[03:39] <madman91> .. in the end i chose C as the start..
[03:39] <cwillu> madman91, start with the higher level languages, seriously;  get comfortable with the algorithms, the concepts, and learn c in small bits
[03:39] <carajea1> Hey i need a really quick yes or no answer. I know the sound blaster live works but does the audigy work as well???
[03:39] <macd> madman91, yes start with C!
[03:39] <ekimus> madman91: if you really learn C it will make learning Java afterwards (or any object oriented language, including C++) just harder
[03:39] <madman91> macd: woooooooooo!! go C
[03:39] <macd> dont start with some silly OOP or high level lang, then you learn nothing about proper coding
[03:39] <cwillu> lol
[03:39] <madman91> thank you
[03:39] <cwillu> that's the funniest thing I've heard today, macd
[03:39] <madman91> ok but seriously guys
[03:39] <madman91> stop stop opsotpospot
[03:39] <madman91> stop
[03:39] <macd> thats the WHOLE problem with people these days, they have no clue about proper coding
[03:40] <bruenig> C does make learning oop slightly harder
[03:40] <ekimus> macd: that is just not true...
[03:40] <madman91> !flame
[03:40] <cables> madman91, with higher-level languages, you learn how to think like a programmer. With C, you'll just get confused.
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <madman91> !flame-war
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flame-war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <macd> lol
[03:40] <cwillu> of course, this whole thing is offtopic, so how 'bout we move to #ubuntu-offtopic? :)
[03:40] <macd> we should offtopic this
[03:40] <cables> madman91, when you learn to think like a programmer and actually write some code, then you can learn the harder languages.
[03:40] <cables> !offtopic
[03:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:40] <madman91> ok guys.. I am learning C first.. now.. i dont care if its the dumbest thing in the world
[03:40] <marfeath> cables: false, i started on c, and I do just fine.  The only programming I had before then was ti-basic
[03:40] <cables> marfeath, that's a start
[03:41] <GigaClon> !ops
[03:41] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:41] <cables> marfeath, sure, some people CAN learn on C, but most people have issues.
[03:41] <ekimus> madman91: learning is never dump there are just different opinions about the approach :)
[03:41] <cables> GigaClon, I don't think that was necessary.
[03:41] <cables> There was no flamewar.
[03:41] <bruenig> !offtopic
[03:41] <madman91> lol
[03:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <cables> madman91, the conversation is continuing in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you want to join in :)
[03:42] <madman91> ok
[03:43] <jrib> GigaClon: ?
[03:43] <GigaClon> sorry its done
[03:44] <das-q> I can't remember the address of a 'famous' news-server which hosted lots of mailing lists of open source projects. Can anybody help? :)
[03:44] <ekimus> jrib: was unnecessary we were a bit offtopic for about a minute
[03:44] <incorperated> identify password
[03:44] <incorperated> can someone help me with CSpace
[03:44] <incorperated> installing it
[03:46] <Steil> so uh
[03:46] <Steil> how do i set all my file access dates and creation dates to random dates in the far past or far future?
[03:46] <SirBarnes> I have one more question...I try to install NetBeans...but when I run it....it comes up in a blank screen
[03:46] <ekimus> Steil: stat or touch can't remember which can set...
[03:47] <incorperated> so can anybody help me with CSpace
[03:47] <tbtroja> My CPU load skyrockets whenever I open an application (unless it's urxvt) and everything takes forever on my computer now for some reason.  Geany (the lightweight and fast GTK IDE) leaves my CPU at about 90% all the time.  Can anyone help me?  I've tried messing with a couple of performance tweaking things to no avail.
[03:48] <incorperated> can anyone help me
[03:48] <Eleaf> hello, how can I set a kernel set (low-latency) to boot every time in grub?
[03:49] <Pavelish> anyone here experienced with Wine and Games?
[03:49] <t3h_w0n> yes
[03:49] <t3h_w0n> a little atl least
[03:49] <Pavelish> is running Dx9 games on Wine stable? and well?
[03:49] <ekimus> Eleaf: in /boot/grub/menu.lst set "default <number of your conf>" iirc
[03:49] <maka123> hi does anyone know how to play just a right audio channel out of both speakers
[03:49] <Eleaf> right now it boots to the i386 kernel, I want it to boot the -low-latency kernel each time
[03:49] <Eleaf> ekimus, but what about kernel updates?
[03:49] <Eleaf> I would have to add that for every kernel update, I thought there was something special in ubuntu, like auto kernel orsomething
[03:50] <mboso> what stand alone webcam programs do you guys use? only one i've found so far that works with my logitech is luvcview
[03:50] <Beta-guy> anyone here have ubuntu on a PS3?
[03:50] <ekimus> Eleaf: yes you would have to modify that but isn't that the whole point of manually setting a specific kernel?
[03:50] <piratenin> How do I install the nvidia drivers?
[03:51] <mrsn0> !nvidia
[03:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:51] <Toma-> mboso: why use standalone?
[03:51] <incorperated> you can also use automatix
[03:51] <incorperated> it will install the drivers for you
[03:51] <ekimus> !automatix
[03:51] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:51] <incorperated> yes
[03:51] <mrsn0> no need so much these days incorperated
[03:51] <incorperated> ok
[03:51] <incorperated> just trying to help
[03:51] <incorperated> lol
[03:51] <incorperated> my bad
[03:52] <incorperated> it works for some good use
[03:52] <mrsn0> don't mean that to be bad, yea automatix is good + has its uses
[03:52] <mrsn0> but ubuntu wiki is great ! :)
[03:52] <wweasel> !WorksForMe
[03:52] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:53] <incorperated> can anyone help me with cSpace
[03:53] <Eleaf> ekimus, I'm not specifying a manual kernel
[03:53] <scoobydoo28139> Hello again, I have a system that has only 64mb of ram and a 500mhz amd. What would be a good distro to install?
[03:53] <Eleaf> ekimus, it's a kernel installed through ubuntu, it's the kernel-low-latency package, which automatically installs the latest low-latency kernel.  Right now it's defaulting to the normal -i386 one though.
[03:53] <incorperated> it depends what you want
[03:53] <crimsun> scoobydoo28139: damn small linux.
[03:53] <incorperated> Ubuntu
[03:53] <mrsn0> gnite all
[03:53] <EADG_> scoobydoo28139: Dam Small Linux or Puppy linux.
[03:53] <incorperated> or if you want it easy use Mandrivia
[03:54] <scoobydoo28139> I tryed ubuntu but it took to long and hung
[03:54] <incorperated> what distro you have now
[03:54] <Pollywog> what is the best way to get XP to print via CUPS running on ubuntu?
[03:54] <incorperated> is gentoo any good
[03:54] <EADG_> scoobydoo28139: min ram for xubuntu is 96Mb iirc.
[03:54] <ekimus> Eleaf: can you paste your grub config somewhere? don't have one handy but i think ubuntu uses savedefault so it will use the last kernel booted upon reboot
[03:54] <Pollywog> I think the way I do it is not the best way
[03:55] <scoobydoo28139> That old compaq has win 98se on it now
[03:55] <Jared> Is there any kind of ubuntu certification kinda like microsoft certified except for ubuntu?
[03:55] <ekimus> Jared: theres LSPI afaik which is kind of generic
[03:55] <EADG_> scoobydoo28139: Look up DSL (Dam Small Linux) that is your best bet for the hardware you have. DSL is about 50Mb d/l.
[03:56] <ekimus> Jared: but i'm not sure that's an international certificate
[03:56] <Jared> Thanks, ekimus
[03:56] <scoobydoo28139> ok thanks
[03:56] <Q_Continuum> only 16GB for a local ubuntu i386 mirror.  Interesting.  That, or I missed a part of it. *shrugs*
[03:57] <Pollywog> ekimus: did you mean Linux Professional Institute?
[03:58] <ekimus> Pollywog: could be. just read about it in some local tech magazine. normally i don't care but there was part one of the exam in it so i lurked thru. was fun :)
[03:58] <Pollywog> oic
[03:58] <Pollywog> because that one is international
[03:58] <pkp> hi
[03:58] <pkp> room
[03:58] <CokeMan> has anyone had problems with azurues? It seems to be crashing because it wants to use the same incomming IP, i see in the logs its attempting to get that when i open it. is there any reason it would not be released after azureus is closed?
[03:58] <adelie> I am trying to share a folder with a winXPsp2 machine. used right click "share folder" got samba installed. winXP sees share, but my login/password doesn't work. what am I doing wrong?
[03:59] <Enyara> adelie: try smbpasswd
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> you set the samba user up?
[03:59] <preaction> adelie: edgy? use 'sudo smbpasswd <username>'
[03:59] <ekimus> adelie: you are using the user/pass from the ubuntu box?
[03:59] <Enyara> samba users need to be set up aside from system users
[03:59] <ekimus> smbpasswd -a ....
[03:59] <pkp> hmm
[04:00] <Pollywog> what is the best way to get XP to print via CUPS running on ubuntu?
[04:00] <Blip> can someone say Blip
[04:00] <Pollywog> blip
[04:00] <preaction> blip?
[04:00] <Pollywog> Blip
[04:00] <Blip> tq
[04:00] <Blip> was checking highlights
[04:00] <adelie> CokeMan I've had that problem. backup anything needed, like torrents, then delete the .azures folder from your home folder. When you start azureus, it will look like a fresh install. best I know
[04:00] <williamkp> hello
[04:00] <EADG_> blithe: Your nick
[04:00] <EADG_> ^ ignore
[04:01] <williamkp> Is Mr T on?
[04:01] <adelie> yes, using the password from the box. need to set smbpassword?
[04:01] <adelie> using 7.04
[04:01] <Enyara> yes
[04:02] <CokeMan> adelie, yeah, that works, i delete everything in .azureus and start over, and it works until i restart my PC or sometimes even when i restart the app
[04:02] <ekimus> adelie: yes dunno for ubuntu but samba normally requires "smbpasswd -a yourusername" to add your user to the samba users
[04:02] <williamkp> Azures Q- I had to do a reinstall because Azureus, once I installed it- took a different port and prevented me from doing updates.
[04:03] <williamkp> So who all is in NM?
[04:03] <crimsun> in NM?
[04:03] <ekimus> nm?
[04:03] <williamkp> New Mexico
[04:03] <CokeMan> when i start a vncserver session, and i connect to it, i get a checkered background and an X as a window manager, i forget how i've corrected this before
[04:05] <blithe> EADG_: What about my nick?
[04:07] <williamkp> how do I get to freenode?
[04:07] <williamkp> looking for Ubuntu NM
[04:07] <crimsun> you are on Freenode.
[04:07] <williamkp> Ok but is this a general Ubuntu or NM
[04:08] <crimsun> general.
[04:08] <ekimus> williamkp: tried #ubuntu-nm or something?
[04:08] <williamkp> Ok so how do I chg my prefs to get to NM Ubuntu
[04:08] <williamkp> how though- am a new irc user
[04:08] <crimsun> williamkp: join #ubuntu-newmexico
[04:08] <crimsun> /join #ubuntu-newmexico
[04:08] <ekimus> williamkp: what prefs? "/j #ubuntu-nm" in your irc client - prefs depend on your client
[04:09] <williamkp> where to type
[04:09] <ekimus> williamkp: where you type messages too
[04:09] <crimsun> williamkp: type "/join #ubuntu-newmexico" in your message bar.
[04:09] <Sam6464> Hi, me again, when i login i get the error...GCONF error: adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/corba/comm_failure:l.u
[04:09] <Sam6464> any ideas?
[04:09] <williamkp> messgae bar Where
[04:09] <cparker> what would cause my media players to play everything twice as fast as it should be?
[04:09] <bohri5> hi i need hlp to install wine
[04:09] <williamkp> where I type?
[04:09] <crimsun> williamkp: where you're currently typing.
[04:09] <Sam6464> "your session is 10 seconds or less" screen
[04:09] <cparker> the tempo for songs AND the pitch is doubled.
[04:09] <CokeMan> how do i set what applications open when i startx?
[04:09] <bohri5> please help
[04:09] <CokeMan> like what window manager?
[04:10] <ekimus> williamkp: type the text we told you and hit enter, that should take you to that channel, type "/part" to leave that channel again
[04:10] <gen> 
[04:10] <scoobydoo28139> does ubuntu have d burning software?
[04:10] <scoobydoo28139> *cd
[04:10] <scoobydoo28139> i need to burn iso's
[04:10] <logan> I dont know if anyone was here earlier when I was having my vorbis libary problem
[04:10] <logan> but now
[04:10] <logan> stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:11] <oliver_> i have a strange network failure, sometimes the network connection stops working (this is on ubuntu dapper)
[04:11] <thethimble> can someone please help me configure my wireless card?
[04:11] <williamkp> join #ubuntu-newmexico
[04:11] <crimsun> williamkp: you need the leading '/', too.
[04:11] <spasticteapot> thethimble: sure.
[04:11] <spasticteapot> What kind?
[04:11] <williamkp> "/j #ubuntu-nm"
[04:11] <thethimble> broadcom bcm4306
[04:11] <oliver_> for example ping does no more work, but ifconfig shows everything as usual
[04:11] <gen> lol
[04:12] <thethimble> i was told i needed ndiswrapper....but i have absolutely no idea what to do
[04:12] <Enyara> williamkp: without the "
[04:12] <bohri5> speak spanish ?
[04:12] <ekimus> oliver_: lan and wlan enabled at the same time?
[04:12] <ekimus> !es
[04:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:12] <logan> error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:12] <logan> Can anyone help me?
[04:12] <shadowhywind> does anyone know what needs to be added to the openssh config file to listen to connections using the hostname?
[04:12] <Nubbie> hey guys, i'm having a problem with grub. on my father's laptop, he's dualbooting windows and ubuntu. I set grub up to automatically select the 3rd entry, which was windows. however after a kernel update, it added more entries. how i can either prevent that from happening or ensure windows will be default no matter what?
[04:12] <ekimus> logan: the reporting command is important too
[04:13] <oliver_> ekimus: no, wlan is disabled via hardware button, i try to get lan working
[04:13] <function1> i removed the notification area and then readded it.. but now it has no more icons sitting in it... is this a bug?
[04:13] <oliver_> ekimus: via ethernet cable
[04:13] <logan> logan@logan-desktop:~$ /home/logan/StepMania-3.9/stepmania
[04:13] <logan> /home/logan/StepMania-3.9/stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libmad.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:13] <logan> logan@logan-desktop:~$
[04:13] <newb_prob> I just got  anew camera, what packages should I install on ubuntu to try to get video from it?
[04:13] <newb_prob> I just got  anew camera, what packages should I install on ubuntu to try to get video from it?
[04:13] <Enyara> logan: do you have libmad0 installed?
[04:13] <logan> isn't it built in with ubuntu?
[04:13] <Enyara> beats me
[04:13] <Nubbie> newb_prob: you should be able to browse the files on it if it uses PTP. you may have to copy the videos off manually.
[04:13] <ekimus> oliver_: could you paste "ip link show && ip addr show && ip route show" in a pastebin. i'll give it a shot
[04:14] <Enyara> pirateninja: check it to be sure
[04:14] <cparker> I'd still like to know what's up with both Totem and Rhythmbox playing everything twice as fast (and high) as it should be.
[04:14] <cparker> Audio AND video.
[04:14] <thethimble> can someone please help me configure my wireless card? it's a broadcom bcm4306
[04:14] <oliver_> ekimus: ok, i will try to copy it via a usb stick to my working computer
[04:14] <tbtroja> Can anyone help me tweak my performance?  It's the worst it's ever been right now, and I've used Ubuntu for quite a while.  Whenever I load a program (anything: GNOME, Firefox, Geany, etc.) it takes _forever_ to load, and when it does everything is slow and processor-intensive.
[04:14] <newb_prob> sorry, I just got a new _webcam_ ... what progs can I use under ubuntu to view it (assume it's supported for now)
[04:15] <willmacleod> cparker: hold up for a second im asking my friend who this happened to
[04:15] <CokeMan> like what window manager?
[04:15] <CokeMan> oopse
[04:15] <cparker> williamkp, thank you :)
[04:15] <CokeMan> how do i set what window manager when i do an xstart
[04:15] <Nubbie> tbtroja: did you just install beagle?
[04:15] <tbtroja> No, it's been installed for a while.
[04:16] <tbtroja> I'll try getting rid of it though..
[04:16] <noiesmo> tbtroja: in a terminal type "top" wee whats eating up your resources
[04:16] <Nubbie> tbtroja: if it's been installed for a while it shouldn't be causing problems
[04:16] <aeiko_> Could anyone assist me in setting up php?
[04:16] <Nubbie> tbtroja: see what's draining all your resources.
[04:17] <Sam6464> GCONF error: adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/corba/comm_failure:l.u I get this when i try to login, anyone know what hte problem it?
[04:17] <hackle577> what is the equivalent of "@echo off" for bash scripts?
[04:17] <willmacleod> cparker: ok turn out he never fixed it either ( he got a mac) lol
[04:17] <pirateninja> I am having Sound issues, I have to manually configure each application to use my external USB card, and not every program has that option. I configured system > preferences > sound, I press the test buttons and it works, but it doesn't apply anywhere else.
[04:17] <crimsun> pirateninja: what's the output from `asoundconf list`?
[04:17] <cparker> willmacleod, LMAO
[04:18] <pirateninja> CK804
[04:18] <pirateninja> External
[04:18] <crimsun> pirateninja: then you need: `asoundconf set-default-card External`
[04:18] <tbtroja> Hm, I guess it was my system monitor in the panel.
[04:18] <tbtroja> That's never acted up before.
[04:18] <zedfloyd> for some reason i lost my close(the X) and max and min buttons in the upper right hand corner of all my windows... Help?
[04:18] <Juaco> anyone knows from where i can reinstall the default scripts for gdm? i've deleted them :S
[04:18] <ivanxis> hay alguien que hable espaol?
[04:18] <Enyara> !es
[04:18] <tbtroja> Although Geany is still acting up a bit...
[04:18] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:18] <cparker> willmacleod, I'll just try rebooting. *gasp* I haven't rebooted since this first started happening.
[04:19] <beardbar> i am intimidated by this chat room
[04:19] <thethimble> can someone please help me configure my wireless card? it's a broadcom bcm4306
[04:19] <thethimble> as am i beardbar
[04:19] <ekimus> beardbar: intimidated?
[04:19] <protocol1> is there better support for acer aspire 5000 notebooks with the kernel updates?
[04:19] <thethimble> very
[04:20] <willmacleod> cparker: lucky, my ethernet card is dying to it cuts out every couple hours and iv gotta restart until it works lol
[04:20] <tbtroja> It looks like "apport" and "hal" are my biggest resource eaters.
[04:20] <willmacleod> cparker: dying so *
[04:20] <ekimus> beardbar: how so?
[04:20] <beardbar> ya ekimus, if feel it so large that everyone is asking questions and those probably get the same questions all the time, might not want to answer
[04:20] <Pollywog> because you don't like talking with strangers?
[04:20] <Pollywog> beardbar: yeah they call that the RTFM syndrome
[04:21] <tbtroja> Is it safe to kill those?
[04:21] <oliver_> ekimus: ok, here it is ( i removed the MAC address): http://pastebin.ca/549300
[04:21] <logmein> hmm someone was warning me about using swiftfox so I was wondering about swiftweasel. Is it any good?
[04:21] <beardbar> pollywog: RTFM?
[04:21] <Pollywog> as in 'read the fine manual'
[04:21] <Pollywog> but we don't say that here
[04:22] <ekimus> oliver_: can you ping localhost and 192.168.100.9?
[04:22] <zedfloyd> for some reason i lost my close(the X) and max and min buttons in the upper right hand corner of all my windows... Help?
[04:22] <oliver_> ekimus: yes, but the other computers in the local net are not reachable
[04:22] <tbtroja> Randomly it says tha tgonme-screensaver and gnome-settings are eating up my resources like mad, but then they aren't and then they are again.
[04:22] <Pachelbel> bah
[04:22] <beardbar> pollywog: ahh
[04:22] <willmacleod> zedfloyd: try switching window themes
[04:22] <protocol1> is there better support for acer aspire 5000 notebooks with the kernel updates?
[04:23] <mage__> hmmm what'd make Xorg take up 48% of my ram?
[04:23] <Pachelbel> how do i disable this freakin ubuntu auto-connect?
[04:23] <ekimus> how about 192.168.100.10 ?
[04:23] <logmein> zedfloyd: you disabled your windowing so enable it again, what ubuntu you using? x k or g?
[04:23] <mage__> (~240mb)
[04:23] <ekimus> oliver_: how about 192.168.100.10 ?
[04:23] <logmein> zedfloyd: also might be due to a theme your using
[04:23] <zedfloyd> no sure
[04:23] <oliver_> ekimus: no, it is unreachable too
[04:23] <logmein> zedfloyd: were you trying to setup beryl? it uses emerald for its windowing
[04:23] <pirateninja> crimsun, that didn't work, it still outputs the sound from the stero jacks on the back of my computer
[04:23] <oliver_> ekimus: only the computers own ip does work
[04:23] <CokeMan> how do i set what window manager when i do an xstart
[04:23] <zedfloyd> i will give it a try
[04:23] <crimsun> pirateninja: did you restart the sound apps?
[04:23] <pirateninja> yes
[04:24] <crimsun> pirateninja: i.e., log out of gnome and back in
[04:24] <willmacleod> Cokeman: what do u mean?
[04:24] <pirateninja> oh
[04:24] <pirateninja> no
[04:24] <ekimus> oliver_: you aren't using dhcp right?
[04:24] <osxdude> Gconf is having errors after my home folder change
[04:24] <oliver_> ekimus: right, i only use static ips
[04:24] <CokeMan> willmacleod, i started a vncserver and when i vnc to it its a checkered screen with an X for the mouse
[04:24] <logmein> zedfloyd: well I use xubuntu so if that happens I would enter xfce4 into terminal try entering gnome or kde into terminal perhaps
[04:24] <dub> im having a problem with usb->serial converters since a recent update on fiesty, does http://dub.net.nz/hal point to anythign obvious
[04:24] <beardbar> I just switched from windows to ubuntu, everything seems great thus far but my resolution is 1024X768. in windows I had 1280X1024. is this a driver issue with my laptop? because in system>prefs>screen reso it dosnt have the option i want.
[04:24] <lemare> What is the best looking music (or vid) player?
[04:25] <mage__> CokeMan: I ran into the same annoyance
[04:25] <HeXiLeD> amarok
[04:25] <tbtroja> Nubbie, it seems that apport, hald, and some random GNOME applications (settings, screensaver, power management) are eating up my resources now.
[04:25] <CokeMan> mage__, i figured it out once, but i just cant remember what i did
[04:25] <pirateninja> It still isn't working
[04:25] <willmacleod> Cokeman: it sounds like somethings blocking the connection
[04:25] <tbtroja> Nubbie, are those safe to kill or what?
[04:25] <CokeMan> mage__, it works on my other computer
[04:25] <logmein> beardbar: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf then edit the bottom to correct resolution
[04:25] <CokeMan> williamkp, no.
[04:25] <lemare> I use GNOME -- So Amarok doesn't work -- any way to use KDE?
[04:25] <mage__> CokeMan: DISPLAY=:1 something-session
[04:25] <osxdude> beardbar: try editing xorg.conf
[04:25] <ekimus> oliver_: 2 things i can think of, you are using a bad cable (crossover or just broken) or some type like wrong netmask or something. i assume you know the basic networking stuff since you're using static ip? (same subnet, yadda yadda)
[04:25] <spasticteapot> lemare: Tried Exaile! ?
[04:25] <pirateninja> When I restarted it had the start up sounds comming out of the stero jack in the back
[04:25] <tbtroja> lemare, Amarok works with GNOME, but it works best in KDE.
[04:25] <logmein> beardbar: after that do ctrl alt backspace
[04:26] <lemare> I can't seem to get it to play songs in GNOME =/
[04:26] <CokeMan> mage__, in the script i wrote to start the vncserver sessions i do not have those, i think its a config file i have to write or something
[04:26] <logmein> beardbar: make sure to click save though
[04:26] <kairu0> i'm looking for an SMTP proxy daemon that supports authentication at the proxy (not proxying authentication info to the SMTP server). any help?
[04:26] <tbtroja> lemare, Exaile is somewhat of an Amarok clone for GNOME.
[04:26] <predius> hey guys
[04:26] <mage__> CokeMan: oh i have no idea
[04:26] <lemare> awesome!
[04:26] <predius> is there a way to get a partition from a disk image?
[04:26] <mage__> i've been to lazy to strace the whole bloody mess
[04:26] <lemare> thanks tbtroja
[04:26] <lukillas> hi all, is there any way to show recycle bin in desktop?
[04:26] <predius> i dd'd a disk and now just need a partition inside it
[04:26] <oliver_> ekimus: it can't be the cable. because on windows it does work
[04:26] <mage__> CokeMan: basically the vncserver script isn't finding a file that tells it what to run
[04:27] <logmein> lukillas: upgrade to feisty
[04:27] <CokeMan> mage__, so i've gathered
[04:27] <tbtroja> lukillas, go to gconf and go into the apps section, into nautilus, and check the desktop area, you can adjust what's visible on desktop
[04:27] <lukillas> logmein, i had feisty
[04:27] <lukillas> tbtroja, i'll try this
[04:27] <lukillas> thanks
[04:27] <CokeMan> mage__, the key is what file is it looking for
[04:27] <ekimus> oliver_: so something like wrong gateway? probably 192.168.100.1...
[04:27] <mage__> whats in your /etc/X11/Xsession
[04:27] <clive> anyone here using skype in 7.04
[04:28] <CokeMan> mage__, i dunno... Xsession stuff...
[04:28] <CokeMan> mage__, looks identical to the Xsession stuff on the other PC that is working right.
[04:28] <logmein> clive: nah I use amsn and gaim, pidgin sort of sucks from what I've seen
[04:28] <logmein> clive: how is skype?
[04:28] <pirateninja> I restarted so I don't remember who was helping me, the default audio thing didn't work.
[04:28] <Jinsere> hello
[04:28] <oliver_> ekimus: yes this might be possible. gateway is on 192.168.100.10 but route shows 192.168.100.0. It is even more strange, because in the network gui setup menu i set gateway to the correct 192.168.100.10 ip
[04:28] <osxdude> hola. I am having gconf issues. and its since I changed my home folder. is there any settings for gconf?
[04:29] <cables> logmein, pidgin is gaim, how is gaim better than pidgin?
[04:29] <pirateninja> My game still outputs the sound threw the sterospeaker in the back of the computer, even though I just configured Ubuntu to use my external sound card.
[04:29] <logmein> cables: pidgin has shitty text editing features, its downgraded the ability to have multi colored text and so forth
[04:29] <willmacleod> I like kopete cuz it automaticly has a "what im listening to" feature with amarok
[04:29] <clive> i like it but, i haven't gotten to install here, all the help file tell me to install, but i can't it keeps telling me that it's process is locked
[04:29] <logmein> cables: plus most plugin packages don't work with it
[04:29] <clive> can some decipher what process locked?
[04:29] <amicrawler> can any body help on router
[04:29] <clive> how do you gain root access?
[04:30] <clive> this is confusing me
[04:30] <Steil> sudo -s
[04:30] <amicrawler> keeps droping ip address
[04:30] <Jinsere>  :o
[04:30] <cables> logmein, stick with Gaim on Feisty, but when Gutsy comes out all the packages will be for Pidgin.
[04:30] <ekimus> oliver_: no that says that route to the 192.168.100.0/24 (which is the whole network) goes thru eth2 device with a source address of ......
[04:30] <clive> sudo -s
[04:30] <clive> ?
[04:30] <clive> what i's that
[04:30] <logmein> cables: then I'm going to have to modify the pidgin source with some old gaim features
[04:30] <cables> logmein, that's totally not true, it has the same formatting toolbar Gaim had.
[04:30] <oliver_> ekimus: oh, ok.
[04:31] <beardbar> logmein: ok im in xorg.conf should i edit all the resolutions, there seems to be 6 subsections, and should i add 1280X1024 or replace 1024X768. thats listed there?
[04:31] <logmein> cables: try to have part of what you type in one font with color then the next part different font and color so forth
[04:31] <ekimus> oliver_: and all unknown should go thru 192.168.100.10 (which is in this network which goes thru eth2, router should do the rest)
[04:31] <pirateninja>  My game still outputs the sound threw the sterospeaker in the back of the computer, even though I just configured Ubuntu to use my external sound card.
[04:31] <oliver_> ekimus: but what i don't understand is, the network can work for hours, but sometimes it suddenly stops working
[04:31] <logmein> cables: you can't emphasize what you type
[04:31] <cables> logmein, when you say gaim, are you referring to 1.5?
[04:31] <logmein> beardbar: yep you got it
[04:31] <ekimus> oliver_: so basically it works (most of the time)
[04:31] <mneptok> oliver_: what network device? chipset?
[04:31] <osxdude> clive: you can't become root. to be able log in as root go to "Login Screen" prefs, and find a setting saying "allow login as root"
[04:31] <oliver_> ekimus: yes
[04:31] <cables> logmein, sure can, I just did. I had multiple fonts and colors and stuff across different parts of a message.
[04:31] <logmein> beardbar: replace 1024x768 or add it doesn't matter
[04:32] <Moniker42> osxdude: clive don't login as root
[04:32] <oliver_> ekimus: it is a marvel network chip
[04:32] <mneptok> osxdude: sudo su
[04:32] <clive> what will be the password then?
[04:32] <Moniker42> just use sudo when you need root permissions
[04:32] <clive> i never set that up?
[04:32] <mneptok> clive: sudo su
[04:32] <logmein> cables what pidgin version?
[04:32] <logmein> cables perhaps mine was an older version
[04:32] <cables> logmein, 2.0.1
[04:32] <clive> ok
[04:32] <oliver_> ekimus: marvel 88E8036 fast ethernet conroller
[04:33] <Flannel> clive: You won't have a password.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account, there's no reason to set one
[04:33] <robert98374> Hello Everyone!
[04:33] <cables> logmein, Pidgin is one of the best clients I've used, but not for supporting each protocol's features.
[04:33] <robert98374> How do i change the Ubuntu Icon?
[04:33] <ekimus> oliver_: have you checked google wether your chipset is known to have such problems. i have had high quality cards with similiar problems. also if you're using bittorrent or other sharing software those could break your router. they make quite a lot of connections and often routes choke on that. so the problem could be that your route is hung
[04:33] <cables> logmein, I think they're going to consider working on voice/video support in v3
[04:33] <clive> thanks flannel
[04:33] <pirateninja>  My game still outputs the sound threw the stero port in the back of the computer, even though I just configured Ubuntu to use my external sound card.
[04:33] <logmein> cables: there has already been some work done on that if you check sourceforge
[04:33] <logmein> cables: all they have to do is get it working properly
[04:34] <cables> logmein, I know there are builds of Gaim w/ audio support, but they're based on 1.5
[04:34] <logmein> cables: I want festival to work with gaim too
[04:34] <oliver_> ekimus: but the problem only happens on ubuntu not on windows, so i don't think it is related to the hardware. i also can't exchange the network device, because this computer is a notebook
[04:34] <kranol> I can't seem to get sound to play through my USB headset. The device is working -- when I set the output to USB from System->Preferences->Sound and press test, there is sound from the USB headset. But, sound from flash (eg youtube) and from totem and the ubuntu sounds are still going through the speakers.. help? :(
[04:34] <cables> logmein, it does
[04:34] <logmein> cables bleh I meant pidgin
[04:34] <crimsun> pirateninja: which game?
[04:34] <pirateninja> StepMania
[04:35] <crimsun> pirateninja: if it uses OSS, it doesn't honor ALSA
[04:35] <logmein> oliver_: what did you say your problem is with?
[04:35] <cables> logmein, you can't expect Ubuntu's plugin packages to support Pidgin. However, Gutsy will have all the same plugin packages, except for Pidgin.
[04:35] <lemare> Is there any music player that uses a text line interface? That prints directly to the XII desktop (& selectable)?
[04:35] <logmein> oliver_: you might have a dns issue like I had this morning when installing xubuntu
[04:35] <cables> logmein, Gaim beta 6 is basically the same as Pidgin, so you should stick with that for the time being (because it's supported w/ packages from the repos)
[04:35] <Juaco> hello need some help
[04:35] <cables> logmein, but in Gutsy, Pidgin will do everything Gaim 2 b 6 does
[04:35] <lemare> I use pidgin
[04:36] <clive> i'm trying install skype and it keeps telling me :dpkg: status database area is locked by another process. what is the meaning of this
[04:36] <cables> Juaco, you need to ask your question.
[04:36] <lemare> I don't like how GAIM uses giant AIM icons in the buddy list
[04:36] <cables> clive, you need to close any package management software you have open
[04:36] <pirateninja> I think it is a pebkac error =(, I think I screwed something up, I set it to use the USB one in System > Pref > Sound and some stuff in terminal
[04:36] <lemare> thats why I compiled pidgin
[04:36] <beardbar> logmein: i used pico to edit xorg.conf file, but when i went to save it said permission denied. i did not use sudo mousepad because it didnt work, what shall i do?
[04:36] <oliver_> logmein: the network stops working sporadically. everything is set correct, but the other computers are not more reachable, even ping does not work
[04:36] <ekimus> oliver_: found a report that says wireless works reliably but wired doesn't on that chip :) http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/05/laptops-and-laundry.html
[04:36] <clive> ok
[04:36] <cables> lemare, I use a 3rd party .deb
[04:36] <robert98374> How can i change the default icon to access the programs menu?
[04:36] <lemare> Is there any music player that uses a text line interface? That prints directly to the XII desktop (& selectable)?
[04:36] <cables> clive, so close add/remove, update manager, synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, or whatever you have open.
[04:36] <logmein> oliver_: your on ethernet or wireless? what does ifconfig say?
[04:37] <logmein> oliver_: try checking output of /etc/resolv.conf see if you get input/output error
[04:37] <ekimus> logmein: he's wired, network settings seem to be ok (routing too)
[04:37] <smartsphere> You gain root access with your own password   use [ sudo -i   your-user-login-password ] 
[04:37] <Juaco> cables, sorry, i've accidentally deleted the defaults scripts for gdm
[04:37] <oliver_> logmein: ethernet. ifconfig shows everything correct like usual, but it is still unreachable
[04:37] <Juaco> how can i restore them?
[04:37] <cables> Juaco, why are you asking me?
[04:37] <beardbar> smartsphere: thanks man
[04:37] <AlexSeif> hi
[04:37] <cables> Juaco, hit alt-f2 and type < gksudo nautilus /etc/gdm >
[04:38] <ekimus> logmein: http://pastebin.ca/549300 <- that's what he pasted. seems ok to me no typos or something obvious wrong (trying to save you both time not going thru the same questions again)
[04:38] <logmein> oliver_: then its same issue I had this morning I think. You might have the other computer on different segments. Are you pinging their IPS or their dns names?
[04:38] <cables> Juaco, tell me if you see a factory-gdm.conf
[04:38] <oliver_> ekimus: i will read that, maybe it is a driver related problem. like i said, this problem never happend before when using windows
[04:38] <Juaco> can i do it in a terminal? there it is, yes
[04:38] <AlexSeif> I'm trying to get to working on linux and ubuntu 6 came through (user friendly / installable ...) however I only had it for a couple of days and planning to work on it
[04:38] <logmein> oliver_: what does cat /etc/resolv.conf output?
[04:38] <Juaco> i've only deleted the default under
[04:38] <cables> Juaco, what exactly did you delete?
[04:39] <smartsphere> They sort of  disactivate the root login because it's a target for hackers
[04:39] <Juaco> "Init" "modules" so on
[04:39] <ekimus> oliver_: if it's generally working i'd bet on the driver
[04:39] <cables> Juaco, gdm.conf-custom or gdm.conf?
[04:39] <AlexSeif> right now I work with mysql 5 php 5 and apache 2
[04:39] <cables> Juaco, oh, I don't know ow to fix that
[04:39] <Juaco> both
[04:39] <oliver_> logmein: resolv is correct, this is also not the problem, it is not a dns problem
[04:39] <cables> Juaco, you deleted it all?
[04:39] <Eleaf> ekimus, sorry about that:  here is my menu.lst if you are still available.  http://pastebin.ca/549329
[04:39] <cables> Juaco, I have no idea what to say about that...
[04:39] <logmein> oliver_: hmm try a static route perhaps?
[04:39] <Juaco> no, i had previously backed up gdm.conf, but recursively deleted everything else
[04:40] <AlexSeif> I marked them in the packet manager and they seem to be functional
[04:40] <newb_pro1> how do I get linux/config.h? I am tryino compile a new package on ubuntu 7.0 but it can't find linux/config.h (trying to comiple a kernel module to be specific)
[04:40] <logmein> oliver_: you could check if lspci displays your ethernet card right
[04:40] <AlexSeif> what do now
[04:40] <AlexSeif> php I can get through any text editor I know
[04:40] <AlexSeif> but what about mysql
[04:40] <oliver_> ekimus: that might be possible, i think i will update my notebook from dapper to feisty
[04:40] <Flannel> !lamp | AlexSeif
[04:40] <ubotu> AlexSeif: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:40] <logmein> newb_pro1: grab the headers for your kernel
[04:40] <oliver_> logmein: i use only static ips.
[04:40] <Flannel> AlexSeif: read the link at the end of that factoid.  It walks you through setting it up
[04:40] <Juaco> ok thx equally
[04:40] <willmacleod> oliver_: just download feisty, dont upgrade it, thatll take wayyy longer
[04:40] <ekimus> Eleaf: change "default 0" on line 14 to "default saved" that way you will always boot the last used kernel
[04:41] <Eleaf> cool ekimus, so it will boot whatever kernel is installed as well?  (during kernel updates of low-latency)
[04:41] <AlexSeif> I think its already set up
[04:41] <CokeMan> has anyone ever used vncserver??????????
[04:41] <ekimus> Eleaf: which makes sense in your case since you have to reboot on kernel updates anyway and this boot on subsequent reboots always the newest one
[04:41] <AlexSeif> I just don't know how to use it
[04:41] <kranol> When was fiesty released?
[04:41] <AlexSeif> for example I went to  my apache dir
[04:42] <kranol> I can't seem to get sound to play through my USB headset. The device is working -- when I set the output to USB from System->Preferences->Sound and press test, there is sound from the USB headset. But, sound from flash (eg youtube) and from totem and the ubuntu sounds are still going through the speakers.. help? :(
[04:42] <Flannel> !enter | AlexSeif
[04:42] <ubotu> AlexSeif: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:42] <ekimus> Eleaf: not newest but just the last used one, it's up to you to at least one time choose the right one in the menu
[04:42] <Juaco> anyone knows how to restore the "default scripts" for gdm under /etc/gdm/Init, /etc/gdm/PostLogin, /etc/gdm/PostSession etc?
[04:42] <ekimus> Eleaf: i'm not aware of more automation than that...
[04:42] <Eleaf> so I have to choose the right one during each boot when a new one is automatically installed? ekimus
[04:42] <SillyZ> question : how do i get a 'my computer' or a home icon on my gnome desktop ??
[04:42] <Juaco> gnome is starting always in recovery mode
[04:42] <logmein> oliver: hmm http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/wireshark and http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/wireshark-common set those up and see what packets are going about?
[04:42] <Eleaf> ekimus, normally whenever a new kernel is installed, ubuntu automatically boots that one, always has.
[04:42] <newb_pro1> logmein: linux-headers-2.6.20-15 is _not_ providing me linux/headers.h
[04:43] <ekimus> hmm is it really only 0442h at GMT+1 it damn bright outside
[04:43] <crimsun> newb_pro1: of course not.  You need linux-headers-$(uname -r).
[04:43] <Eleaf> but since I have both the kernel-i386 and kernel -lowlatency, it doesn't know which one
[04:43] <logmein> oliver: newb_pro1: are you on 2.6.20-16 that is the latest ubuntu kernel
[04:43] <kranol> SillyZ: click Places, drag home to your desktop.
[04:43] <AlexSeif> put a  hello world and it works
[04:43] <AlexSeif> but how do I get to mysql
[04:43] <AlexSeif> or how do i know where is it installed
[04:43] <logmein> oliver: oops wrong person sorry
[04:43] <smartsphere> Check out the Google video for [ LINUXMCE ]   It compares the linux Media Center  with the Windows Media Center
[04:43] <Eleaf> ekimus, thanks, I'll give this a try.
[04:43] <kranol> SillyZ: though I would just leave it as is and click Places->Home Folder when you need it :P
[04:43] <oliver_> willmacleod: yes, but i don't want to reinstall everything from scratch. i really prefer the update way.
[04:43] <beardbar> ive made changes to xorg.conf, do i just restart or is there a command from the prompt to restart the service
[04:43] <anthony_> !gnome
[04:43] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:44] <ryan__> Quick question for you apt-get experts... I am installing Ubuntu on a new system that is located pretty far from an ethernet connection. I have a linksys WMP11 wireless card. From what I saw on the wiki, I can get it to work using ndis-wrapper.. However, I dont know how to apt-get to just download the package to put on a USB thumb drive to transfer it over.. Any ideas?
[04:44] <newb_pro1>  dpkg -L linux-headers-`uname -r` | grep config\\.h <-- lists config.h's but not a linux/config.h
[04:44] <newb_pro1> how can I get linux/config.h ?
[04:44] <ekimus> Eleaf: that's because other kernels are appended to the end of the config by debcons and "default 0" says boot the first kernel in the list i think "default saved" is the closest you can get
[04:44] <oliver_> willmacleod: on my other computer i did a test upgrade, from dapper to 6.10 and then to feisty.
[04:44] <oliver_> willmacleod: the problems where minimal
[04:44] <logmein> newb_pro1: hmm apt-get linux-kernel-devel then
[04:44] <willmacleod> but it takes so much more work
[04:44] <logmein> newb_pro1: that should give all the things you need
[04:45] <willmacleod> wekk
[04:45] <willmacleod> well*
[04:45] <willmacleod> not really
[04:45] <willmacleod> but it takes a lot longer
[04:45] <SillyZ> Kranol : i work from the desktop more than i do the menu's , its not rocket science so theres gotta be a way it can be done
[04:45] <kranol> SillyZ: I told you how earlier :)
[04:45] <kranol> SillyZ: Drag "Home Folder" from the Places menu to the desktop.
[04:45] <Toma-> whats the smallest size for / minus the /home partiton? like 2gb or 2.5gb?
[04:46] <SillyZ> it wont let me drag it
[04:46] <oliver_> willmacleod: can i upgrade from dapper directly to feisty or should i go over 6.10?
[04:46] <AlexSeif> sorry
[04:46] <hewhocutsdown> I have a question about Feisty regarding Admin > Logon Window & XDMCP with regards to VNC as detailed in this walkthrough [http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036] .
[04:46] <Eleaf> ekimus, but ubuntu is automatically adding the kernels in menu.lst
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[04:46] <SillyZ> roflmao
[04:46] <willmacleod> oliver_: youve gotta go through 6.10
[04:46] <SillyZ> Thanks Kranol
[04:46] <netrat> hello i'm installing ubuntu 7.04 server and i'd like for the boot partition to be RAID 1. is this possible with the installer?
[04:47] <kranol> SillyZ: lol np :)
[04:47] <oliver_> willmacleod: ok, so i will have to download a lot more
[04:47] <hewhocutsdown> the look has changed a fair bit, so I couldn't find 'Security Tab -> Enable XDMCP'
[04:47] <ekimus> Eleaf: yup i just think it's adding them at the end of the config, and "default 0" which is now there says "boot the first one"
[04:47] <hewhocutsdown> the walkthrough was originally written for edgy, I believe
[04:47] <hewhocutsdown> vnc is working, but I just get a grey X screen instead of a Ubuntu logon
[04:47] <AlexSeif> can I get phpeclipse
[04:47] <newb_pro1> how do I get linux/config.h ????
[04:47] <killaz> hi is /lib/firmware teh correct location for PVR-150 firmware?
[04:48] <willmacleod> oliver_: well what i do is just create a seperate partition for all my files and then i leave a 10gb partition for the distro itself
[04:48] <kranol> Does anyone know have any idea how I can get sound to go through my USB headset? Sound is set to USB from system>preferences>sound and the test works (sound comes through the headset) but all sound other than the test sound is still coming through the speakers!
[04:48] <Eleaf> ekimus, lol, why would it add at the end?
[04:48] <beardbar> logmein: i made changes to xorg.conf but i do not have the options to the 1280X1024 after a restart
[04:48] <oliver_> willmacleod: i do this too, my home directory is on its own partition
[04:49] <AlexSeif>  can I get phpeclipse?
[04:49] <vbabiy> hey any one know whats going to be new in the next ubuntu
[04:49] <SillyZ> Kranol : know much about vmware?  I got a /dev/ttyUSB0  ( usb to serial converter ) I need to get assigned to a comport in a windows guest os, any ideas?
[04:49] <smartsphere> For the sound did you look through the Mixer options
[04:49] <zero> i'm running Ubuntu 7.04, when i run beryl, i cant switch of desktops, with ctrl + alt + row, any help?
[04:49] <willmacleod> oliver_: well then a reinstall would take so much less time, unless youve got a friggin ton of apps lol
[04:49] <ekimus> Eleaf: guess programmatically it's easier to just append to a file. maybe someone was lazy (but i'm just guessing here i didn't care about that as i use custom kernels)
[04:49] <kranol> SillyZ: sorry, I don't use VMware :(
[04:49] <Cmain> ctrl+alt+drag
[04:50] <kranol> smartsphere: no i didnt
[04:50] <Eleaf> ekimus, I see; maybe it's just a bug in the -low-latency kernel or something.
[04:50] <hewhocutsdown> what's the best way to set up Admin > Logon screen to handle VNC?
[04:50] <hewhocutsdown> I'm unsure as to how to enable XDMCP
[04:50] <irc> can someoe help me with a quick question?
[04:50] <Mixx> don't ask to ask just ask
[04:50] <Eleaf> ekimus, no it's not adding it to the end, it's just adding it under the i-386 one.
[04:50] <willmacleod> irc : fire away :)
[04:50] <vbabiy> irc shoot
[04:50] <Toma-> irc: it would be quicker to simply ask the question
[04:50] <vbabiy> lol
[04:50] <irc> need to know which apt package owns mysql_config
[04:50] <smartsphere> It's like a sound Mixer   you may need to activate your USB sound so it gets in
[04:50] <irc> ?
[04:51] <Eleaf> okay rebooting
[04:51] <ekimus> irc: install apt-file then "apt-file search filename"
[04:51] <Toma-> irc: libmysqlclient15-dev
[04:51] <logan> I need to configure my external sound card to be the default in ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[04:51] <kranol> smartsphere: i dont see anything in the mixer that makes a difference :(
[04:51] <ekimus> irc: that also works for packages you don't have installed....
[04:52] <oliver_> willmacleod: the problem with a complete reinstall is, that everything needs to configured again, this is IMO a lot more time consuming than just updating
[04:52] <tyler_1> anyone know alot about importing contact books using evolution?
[04:52] <smartsphere> I don't have a USB sound device but in your mixer is the volume up
[04:52] <oliver_> willmacleod: on the other side, a complete reinstall is a very clean way of upgrading :)
[04:52] <willmacleod> oliver_: i can see your point, thats why i always keep my installs light :)
[04:53] <SochBat> hello Ubuntites
[04:53] <fiXXXerMet> When Azureus is running, why does gij-4.1 use > 70% of my CPU?
[04:53] <smartsphere> Maybe in the switcher section
[04:53] <hewhocutsdown> Can anyone help me with the last stage of setting up VNC? I have everything working except the logon. When I attempt to connect I just see a grey X screen instead of the Ubuntu logon
[04:53] <Frogzoo> logan: I"m guessing poke around in ~/.asoundrc
[04:53] <irc> Toma: I installed libmysqlclient15-dev
[04:53] <ekimus> clean reinstall? tar and dpkg --get-selections --set-selection are your friends :)
[04:54] <Frogzoo> fiXXXerMet: cos azureus is a cpu hog
[04:54] <logan> Frogzoo, I installed linux this morning and don't have a clue what I am doing
[04:54] <kranol> smartsphere: yeah the mixer is turned up
[04:54] <smartsphere> Try to look in ( file/device )
[04:54] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: have you set it to auto connect or to ask first?
[04:54] <Frogzoo> !sound | logan: messing around with multiple sound cards gets messy, this might help
[04:54] <ubotu> logan: messing around with multiple sound cards gets messy, this might help: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:55] <hewhocutsdown> um, not sure
[04:55] <kranol> smartsphere: what do you mean
[04:55] <hewhocutsdown> vnc or the logon?
[04:55] <CokeMan> anyone know why my vncserver says its starting applications in /etc/X11/Xsession instead of ~/.vnc/xstartup ?????
[04:55] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: cuz that happens until theres a response from the server
[04:55] <oliver_> ekimus: thanks for the link to the article again, this guy seems to have the same problems like me and he thinks it might be a driver problem too. He also has a toshiba notebook like me, it's only another model and he had this problem with kernel 2.6.15, the one that it shipped with dapper
[04:55] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: vnc
[04:55] <willmacleod> go back to the host computer
[04:55] <Frogzoo> what's the easiest way to disable a service automatically after repeat login failures (ssh/telnet/ftp etc)
[04:56] <smartsphere> ubotu gave some advice
[04:56] <willmacleod> and tick OFF "ask you for confirmation"
[04:56] <Frogzoo> I was thinking xinetd but it doesn't seem to help
[04:56] <hewhocutsdown> I don't think it's set to autoconnect... i've been following these steps pretty well to the letter.
[04:56] <hewhocutsdown> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135036
[04:56] <hewhocutsdown> except the Logon Window instructions where for 6.10 I think, and there was a redesign of the remote portions with 7.04
[04:56] <irc> apt file is pretty sweet. very helpful
[04:56] <hewhocutsdown> *were
[04:56] <ekimus> i just hate unix permissions....
[04:56] <TiMoZi> hey
[04:56] <ekimus> or rather they hate me...
[04:56] <carajea1> Ok so I ran out and got the Sound Blaster Audigy Se and it works just now I cant get my surround sound to work. Anyone know how to go about fixing this?
[04:56] <TiMoZi> ive got an interesting problem
[04:57] <willmacleod> im fairly sure that part stayed the same
[04:57] <TiMoZi> wondering if there is an easier answer
[04:57] <logan> How do I set Alsa's default card?
[04:57] <hewhocutsdown> the host and the client are on the same pc here, willmacleod
[04:57] <ekimus> TiMoZi: care to share the problem?
[04:58] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: did u make sure that that box isnt ticked?
[04:58] <hewhocutsdown> Honor indirect requests is unchecked
[04:58] <hewhocutsdown> that what you meant?
[04:58] <Frogzoo> !permissions | ekimus: unix perms are dead simple
[04:58] <ubotu> ekimus: unix perms are dead simple: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:58] <TiMoZi> on feisty, i edited my /etc/sudoers (im just tired if entering my password)... to do it i had to chmid the permissions so i could edit it
[04:59] <zero> hi
[04:59] <logan> How do I set the default card for Alsa?
[04:59] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: frigg i didnt think it was different, what options are there?
[04:59] <jrib> TiMoZi: and now sudo doesn't work, right?
[04:59] <Frogzoo> TiMoZi: _always_ use visudo not vi
[04:59] <zero> how can i make to auto start an application, like beryl for example
[04:59] <ekimus> Frogzoo: i know, but it's a really stupid mistake to put /tmp on it's own var and wonder about a whole bunch of daemons complaining when you forgot to set the right permissions :)
[04:59] <hewhocutsdown> um, for one there's no checkbox for enable/disable XDMCP
[04:59] <zero> when my computer starts
[04:59] <logan> I don't have a default volume control =/
[04:59] <TiMoZi> then i left it, assumed it was all good. when i tried to sudo, it would let me. just said : sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440
[05:00] <Frogzoo> ekimus: well you shouldn't need to touch perms on /tmp ever
[05:00] <TiMoZi> yeah, wont work. and i cant chmod it back without sudo! (i havnt gotten around to setting a su pw yet)
[05:00] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: k what menu is this in edgy? lol
[05:00] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: is it remote desktop preferences?
[05:00] <hewhocutsdown> System > Admin > Logon Window
[05:00] <hewhocutsdown> in the Security tab > Enable XDMCP
[05:00] <jrib> TiMoZi: you should not chmod files to edit them.  Instead use sudo and the appropriate command.  For sudoers, you use 'sudo visudo' as Frogzoo said.  To fix your issue, reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  Then restore the permissions
[05:00] <hewhocutsdown> although in Feisty it's under the Remote tab, and there's no enable/disable
[05:00] <Frogzoo> TiMoZi: so reboot in recovery mode, and put things back as they were
[05:01] <ekimus> Frogzoo: true but you definitely should recreate them when creating a mountpoint. not doing so will lead you to a land with a huge sign "Beware here be dragonz"
[05:01] <TiMoZi> i know i can fix it by rebooting on another linux
[05:01] <TiMoZi> or recovery
[05:01] <hewhocutsdown> but there's a button for configuring XDMCP, which is where I unchecked the Honor indirect requests
[05:01] <zero> how can i put applications to auto start when my computer starts?
[05:01] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: do under preferences theres no remote desktop option?
[05:02] <hewhocutsdown> .....
[05:02] <logan> In windows I could reroute the line in and mic in lines to be Rear and CSub channels for my surround sound, is this possibe in linux?
[05:02] <hewhocutsdown> ha ha
[05:02] <hewhocutsdown> is that really it?
[05:02] <Frogzoo> zero: quick & dirty - launch it from /etc/rc.local
[05:02] <ekimus> TiMoZi: you have to edit /etc/sudoers with visudo that will at least save you from syntax errors
[05:02] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: LMFAO
[05:02] <hewhocutsdown> as am i
[05:02] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: ok now we got this :)
[05:02] <hewhocutsdown> damn it, was following the instructions to the letter, never even touched preferences
[05:03] <osxdude> is someone wanting to connect to a remote desktop? If you want to use Windows RDC service, get Terminal Server Client
[05:03] <ekimus> well well, since users can write to tmp again installing things is _a lot_ easier :)
[05:03] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: i knew i wasnt crazy about it being the same
[05:03] <coldsteal> hello
[05:03] <logan> Can you reroute the line-in / mic-in to be additional audio channels like in windows?
[05:04] <beardbar> everytime i boot ubuntu i get prompt. unlock keyring, tells me to enter a password, i enter it and it doesnt work, what do i do?
[05:04] <hewhocutsdown> ok, so the only difference I guess is that this is using :0 instead of :1
[05:04] <hewhocutsdown> but it works
[05:04] <Lekrem> whats the difference between the generic and lowlantency kernels?
[05:04] <zero> Frogzoo: didnt really get it
[05:04] <hewhocutsdown> my apologies for the confusion
[05:04] <hewhocutsdown> thank you
[05:04] <willmacleod> hewhocutsdown: no problem lol
[05:04] <Siph0n> anyone else have synaptic freeze on them when they search for something?
[05:05] <osxdude>  I have 2 kernels in my GRUB list. What happened?
[05:05] <ekimus> hwclock.sh is started on boot. find says that only /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh exists where else can I look to disable it?
[05:05] <dedi> when i telnet to my smtp port i get a telnet connection but a login or successful ehlo dont come
[05:05] <logan> Can you reroute the line-in / mic-in to be additional audio channels like in windows?
[05:05] <oliver_> ok, thanks to all. i have to go now.
[05:05] <willmacleod> osxdude: is one debug?
[05:05] <osxdude> Sphi0n: Wait a few minutes.
[05:06] <Akuma_> vim.gtk runs in console mode ... what am i doing wrong?
[05:06] <osxdude> willmaxleod: they are 2 different versions. Both generic. One is 15, another is 16.
[05:07] <questioner> how to compile (c++ code) in emacs?
[05:07] <irc> irc: so I run aptitude install libmysqlclient15-dev , and mysql_config does not install
[05:07] <marfeath> logan: Probably, but that is not all that simple, check out the alsa irc channel or documentation
[05:07] <logan> thanks
[05:07] <bobovski> hi all, I am having some issues with my wireless connection and updates. I have 6.10 installed on my laptop, and upgraded to the latest kernel version
[05:07] <bobovski> after I did so, the wireless didn't work
[05:07] <Siph0n> is there any reason that hcitool scan will find devices that hidd --search wont?
[05:08] <bobovski> so, I used the boot menu on grub to boot to the previous version
[05:08] <bobovski> and now it works
[05:08] <bobovski> how do I get grub to boot to the version that works automatically?
[05:08] <osxdude> bobovski: use manual config.
[05:08] <marfeath> logan: check out /var/lib/alsa/asound.state and how to use it, i think it would be in there
[05:08] <jessie_the_jeste> hey, anybody want to play frozen buble
[05:08] <bobovski> osxdude: can you elaborate? config eth0 manually?
[05:08] <osxdude> hey there was an upd that added a second version.
[05:09] <CokeMan> anyone use vncserver???
[05:09] <osxdude> bobovski: What I mean is to not use DHCP.
[05:09] <jessie_the_jeste> hey, anybody want to play frozen bubble? if so do sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[05:09] <jessie_the_jeste> CokeMan, no. i just use the built in vnc one.
[05:09] <marfeath> osxdude: not a good solution, he should be able to use dhcp
[05:10] <bobovski> osxdude: I'm sorry, I don't follow you. What config file shall I change?
[05:10] <questioner> bobovski: google something along the lines of "editing grub boot"
[05:10] <marfeath> bobovski: I've been having some issues with network manager recently too, if it gives you crap, and type "sudo pkill Network* && sudo pkill nm-applet" and then use iwconfig to set up wireless
[05:10] <osxdude> marfeath: He is having problems with his connection, and that is how I solved my connection probs
[05:11] <beardbar> im trying to get my laptop to display in 1280X1024 which it could do when i had windows. i was told to edit xorg.conf which i have done by adding "1280x1024" to each of the modes lines for each depth. i restart, but still cannot change to 1280X1024. any ideas what i should do?
[05:11] <wols> bobovski: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:11] <wols> man menu.lst
[05:11] <osxdude> I use manual config becausr
[05:11] <wols> beardbar: whoever told you this is not suited to give you advice
[05:11] <logan> beardbar I had that problem, I updated the graphics drivers and it fixed it
[05:12] <wols> beardbar: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. what videochip do you have?
[05:12] <osxdude> oops. sorry, my mistake. Hit return on accident.
[05:12] <bobovski> thanks wols
[05:12] <zero> how can i auto start an application when my linux starts?
[05:12] <osxdude> beardbar: did you restart X?
[05:13] <wols> zero: /etc/rc.local
[05:13] <beardbar> wols: vesa
[05:13] <wols> beardbar: that is not a videochip. but it is the reason you can only use 1024x768
[05:13] <wols> beardbar: answer my question please
[05:13] <CokeMan> in fistey where is it contained what window manager is used to boot?
[05:13] <ekimus> yay a night of work to get zimbra running. but it's done FINALLY I CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD
[05:13] <ryan_> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu on a computer with two eth interfaces.. Somehow my routing table got screwed up. I can browse to 192.168.1.1 (My router) but cant access outside IP's.. Any ideas?
[05:13] <ekimus> sorry
[05:14] <zero> wols: then what i do there?
[05:14] <ekimus> getting coffe to cool down
[05:14] <osxdude> press ctrl+alt+bkspc to restart X, beardbar
[05:14] <bobovski> shouldn't I be able to remove the 2.6.17-11-386 kernel and use the one that works?
[05:14] <wols> !rc.local
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.local - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:14] <beardbar> wols: sorry ill check the actual graphics card, its a clevo laptop and not a ati or nvidia
[05:14] <wols> zero: you edit it
[05:15] <wols> beardbar: lspci
[05:15] <osxdude> bobovski: I would't.
[05:15] <zero> wols: well im new here, how i edit it?
[05:15] <wols> bobovski: no you should not. what you should actually do is fix the problem witht he new kernel
[05:15] <wols> zero: editor /etc/rc.local
[05:15] <bobovski> wols, osxdude: any ideas as to why DHCP isn't working in the new kernel?
[05:16] <beardbar> wols: dont know what lspci means
[05:16] <flake> in creating gui apps, what should I use, QT3 / 4?  wxWidgets?  GTK ?  looking for portability and for the long-term
[05:16] <zero> wols: i just did that, im lost there!
[05:16] <wols> bobovski: no. check logs and such
[05:16] <wols> beardbar: it's a command
[05:16] <chipbuddy> hey, so... is there some picture managing tool or application... preferably for gnome but it doesn't really matter
[05:16] <wols> zero: think of it as a batch file
[05:17] <osxdude> bobovski: I don't know...maybe there is some kind of driver load problem in the kernel.
[05:17] <beardbar> wols: its a VIA graphics chip
[05:17] <bobovski> wols: ok, but for now, so my wife can use this laptop, how can I get the thing to boot to the 2.6.15 kernel automatically
[05:17] <wols> flake: whatever you like best. all of them are faily well supported on the 3 main platforms
[05:17] <killaz> ivtv is giving me this error/wwarning in dmesg: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
[05:17] <fog_proxy> Hi all. I have a bash script which I want it start at the ubuntu(feisty) boot time, how to do that?
[05:17] <Mustang_Matt> How do I get the sharing tab to appear in rhythmbox?
[05:17] <wols> bobovski: man menu.lst
[05:17] <fog_proxy> I have tried to add the script at '/etc/rc.local', but seems not work
[05:18] <wols> fog_proxy: edit /etc/rc.local
[05:18] <osxdude> bobovski: It's in the grub list fie.
[05:18] <bobovski> wols: nomanual entry
[05:18] <osxdude> ...I think
[05:18] <bobovski> i have the grub lst file open, maybe I'm just not reading it well
[05:18] <fog_proxy> wols: I tried that, add the script(e.g. vlanstart.sh) in /etc/rc.local, but seems not work
[05:18] <wols> bobovski: /usr/share/doc/grub/ then or possibly grub-doc
[05:18] <zero> wols: there is any manual? or something i'm still lost sorry...
[05:18] <wols> fog_proxy: is your rc.local exectuable?
[05:19] <zero> wols: i dont really mean to bother you...
[05:19] <osxdude> gtg
[05:19] <fog_proxy> wols: yes
[05:20] <CokeMan> how come my vncserver session has no window manager?
[05:20] <fog_proxy> wols: How to check if the rc.local is executed at the boot time?
[05:20] <jessie_the_jeste> CokeMan, no. i just use the built in vnc one.
[05:20] <jessie_the_jeste> hey, anybody want to play frozen bubble? if so do sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[05:20] <jessie_the_jeste> cokeman, sorry about that.
[05:20] <wols> fog_proxy: it gets called by /etc/init.d/rc.local. check if /etc/rc2.d has a symlink back to that rc.local file
[05:20] <beardbar> osxdude: tried ctrl-alt-bkspace didnt restart X
[05:21] <anon2000> Can someone recommend me an audio player for Windows that is like Rhythmbox? (besides iTunes)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  with the actual 'vncserver' you can set what window manager to use (and what to startup) in the users .vnc/xstartup file (i think)
[05:21] <zero> some could help me with rc.local?
[05:21] <Frogzoo> anon2000: what is this windows??
[05:21] <khermans__> CokeMan, if you are using Gnome just try the built-in VNC app
[05:21] <Dr_willis> zero,  help in what way?
[05:21] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, yeah, so i've herd, however, instead of seeing that its going there, i get that its going to /etc/X11/Xsession
[05:22] <khermans__> zero, rc.local should be run unless you changes something
[05:22] <zero> Dr_willis: i'd like to auto start some applications
[05:22] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  the vncserver command is a rather complex script that looks for config files here and there. If not found it tried to go to the system defaults I refall
[05:22] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, which what you said is further irrevalent, becuse i've gottent it to work on another computer months ago while it still going to /etc/X11/Xsession
[05:22] <khermans__> zero, such as?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> zero,  rc.local is for services, and other system tweaks.. Not user started apps.
[05:22] <willmacleod> anon2000: vlc works for everything :)
[05:22] <zero> Dr_willis: so there is any way to auto start apps?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  ive seen a dozen different disrtos use a dozen different  changes to vncserver - I find reading that vncserver script to be very handy.
[05:23] <wols> zero: ~/.xession
[05:23] <wols> zero: ~/.xsession
[05:23] <khermans__> zero, right, check System -> Preference -> Sessions for Gnome autostarts
[05:23] <zero> khermans_: well like beryl / knotes,       apps like that
[05:23] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i have read its options
[05:23] <anon2000> willmacleod: yeah, but i'm looking for something with a similar interface..
[05:23] <fog_proxy> wols: yes, there is. https://account.qq.com/cgi-bin/showMain
[05:23] <zero> khermans_: ok i'll try it now
[05:23] <fog_proxy> wols: sorry, S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local
[05:23] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, where is the vncserver script located?
[05:23] <zero> Dr_willis: a service would be gFtp?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  the vncserver command is a script
[05:24] <zero> wols: ok
[05:24] <wols> fog_proxy: so it gets started/run
[05:24] <luke-jr_> no
[05:24] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  ive noticed that different vnc 'variants' and  disrtos have a lot of differances in that file.
[05:24] <wols> zero: follow Dr_willis. gnome has some gui autostart thing
[05:24] <fog_proxy> wols: started/run?
[05:24] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i know this, where is the scriptlocated?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  its in your path try 'which vncserver'
[05:24] <zero> wols: ok thx
[05:25] <Siph0n> i installed gnome-bluetooth, but i dont see any of the programs it installed? anyone know? the description just said it has programs to deal with bluetooth devices
[05:26] <newb_prob> how can I find what package provides linux/config.h ?
[05:26] <fog_proxy> wols: I don't know if the rc.local run at the boot time, how to verify?
[05:26] <wols> newb_prob: kernel headers
[05:26] <khermans__> Siph0n, search packages.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <wols> newb_prob: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:26] <wols> or apt-file
[05:26] <antonio_> algum fala portugus?
[05:26] <bruenig> !br
[05:26] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:26] <Siph0n> khermans__: thanx
[05:26] <antonio_> vlw
[05:26] <eric> hey guys, anyone know of a tool to merge two directories (minus the duplicates) ?
[05:26] <wols> fog_proxy: put a "touch /home/fog_proxy/filename. if that filename is created, rc.local is run
[05:27] <bruenig> eric, rsync
[05:27] <fog_proxy> wols: ahha, good idea, thx
[05:27] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, ok, i modified the script to go to $HOME/.vnc/xstartup , what needs to be in the xstartup to start up the environment i have for my default?
[05:27] <eric> bruenig: ty :)
[05:27] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, or anythign for that matter, i just want a window manager
[05:28] <Dr_willis> CokeMan, not sure how even gdm or kdm do that.   I tend to set up vnc to use a very light window manager myself.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  i know the 'default' is saved in  .dmrc but not sure what parses that
[05:28] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, fine then how do i do even that?
[05:29] <newb_pro1> what provides linux/config.h ? (no, kern headers does not include it. I've installed kern headers arleady)
[05:29] <wols> CokeMan: start vncerver then the WM
[05:29] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  if set right. you make the xstartup script run the windowmanager ya want. for example (2 lines)    xterm &  gnome-session
[05:29] <Dr_willis> the xterm line is a 'failsafe'
[05:29] <wols> newb_prob: it's a kernel headers file no matter how you deny it
[05:29] <wols> newb_prob: and I already told you how to look for it
[05:29] <newb_pro1> wols: do I need to do something to generage it?
[05:29] <newb_prob> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=linux%2Fconfig.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[05:30] <newb_prob> it gives me 4 results
[05:30] <newb_prob> none of them are kern headers
[05:30] <chen-thil> hey
[05:30] <newb_prob> unless u consider xen headers to be kern headers, but i'm not running xen
[05:30] <rajiv_nair> my system with feisty gets really slow after ive seen some videos in youtube or after ive played some flv files from my hardisk using totem. I ave beyl+XGL running and beryl animations also drag considerably. Any solution to this?
[05:30] <wols> newb_prob: only if you run a custom kernel. then you need the kernel headers for that, yes
[05:30] <logan> I was playing a full screen game and the keyboard went competly unresponsive in the game( there isnt any mouse support), is there anything like ALT-CTRL-DEL or ALT-F4 from windows in linux?
[05:30] <wols> newb_prob: besides: config.h is deprecated baically
[05:30] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i still get a grey checkerboard background and an X for a wm
[05:31] <bobovski> hi all. wha can I do about my swap not being activated?
[05:31] <newb_prob> wols: I'm running standard ubuntu kernel. I need to compile a new kernel module.
[05:31] <bobovski> I'm having some real problems with ubuntu tonight :(
[05:31] <diana_> root@cookooland:/etc# /etc/init.d/apache2 restart;
[05:31] <diana_> root@cookooland:/etc#
[05:31] <wols> newb_prob: I know wha your problem is. doesn't change the solution tho
[05:31] <diana_> Why doesn't that do anything? I did apt-get install apache2
[05:31] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  check the vncserver logs in .vnc as to what the problem may be. also be sure to KILL the vncserver you started properly,  befor you restart it. Or else you may get several vncserver sessions going
[05:31] <willmacleod> logan: automatix has something that allowe ctrl +alt + delete to being up the system manager
[05:31] <diana_> But I can't stop/start it, and localhost in my browser shows nothing.
[05:31] <newb_prob> wols: what's the solution? I have already installed kern headers, and this stupid module has a #include <linux/config.h> line in it, should I just comment it out?
[05:31] <ramorek> HELLO ALL !
[05:32] <ramorek> <<FINALLY GOT NX TO WORK !!! YIPEEEE
[05:32] <willmacleod> logan: allow* bring up&
[05:32] <willmacleod> bring up*
[05:32] <logan> ?
[05:32] <wols> newb_prob: no
[05:32] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, well i am killing them, i'll check the logs then
[05:32] <newb_prob> wols: what is the solution?
[05:32] <diana_> anyone know about apache2?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  vncserver here just made a default .vnc/xstartup for me
[05:33] <wols> newb_prob: autoconf.h basically replaced config.h
[05:33] <wols> diana_: is apache running?
[05:33] <willmacleod> logan: sorry i screwed that sentance up pretty bad
[05:33] <wols> diana_: and: we don't do support for people with root
[05:33] <newb_prob> wols: so s/linux\/config.h/linux\/autoconf.h ?
[05:33] <diana_> wols: no, apache isn't running
[05:33] <diana_> wols: ok, I'l do sudo
[05:33] <Elfboy> is there a mp3 channel echo for xchat
[05:34] <wols> diana_: then check logs if it isn't
[05:34] <smast> does anyone have frostwire?
[05:34] <willmacleod> logan: if you get automatix installed it allows you to download a thing to allow ctrl + alt+ del to bring up the system monitor
[05:34] <willmacleod> smast: goto frostwire.com
[05:34] <diana_> wols: error.log and access.log are empty
[05:34] <logan> ok Ill do that
[05:34] <re-align> Hmm...what's the command to make a link (on the command line)?
[05:34] <wols> diana_: syslog
[05:34] <willmacleod> it auto detects what os ur running and has a deb. :)
[05:34] <wols> re-align: ln
ive got it, but it wont open
[05:34] <re-align> Ah, thanks
[05:35] <Elfboy> is there a mp3 channel echo for xchat
[05:35] <wols> smast: and how are you installing it?
[05:35] <rajiv_nair> my system with feisty gets really slow after ive seen some videos in youtube or after ive played some flv files from my hardisk using totem. I ave beyl+XGL running and beryl animations also drag considerably. Any solution to this?
[05:35] <ramorek> **is there a way to end another session running on your computer when your connected remotely
[05:35] <smast> package opener or something like that
[05:35] <logan> I just searched for automatrix in synaptic and didn't find anything =(.
[05:35] <willmacleod> goto www.getautomatix.com
[05:36] <re-align> Hmm...it won't let me do that...even with sudo...:(
[05:36] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, the log says nothign significant.
[05:36] <willmacleod> smast: it should be gdebi
is there something ive gotta run in the terminal?
[05:36] <willmacleod> no
[05:36] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i correct myself, it says that it cant access xstartup
[05:36] <Elfboy> is there a mp3 channel echo for xchat
[05:36] <willmacleod> is it a .deb file?
[05:36] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  it may need to be executable
no idea
[05:37] <xerophyte> i have IBM thinkpad T43, the Fn+F7 to switch the screen is not working but when i type aticonfig --enable-monitor=crt1 --effective=now it works just wondering how can i get this key to work
[05:37] <willmacleod> smast: does it say .deb at the end?
[05:37] <syosoft> Hey guys, so i'm looking in fstab...how can i tell if a mount point is consuming the entire drive - or just a partition on it?
[05:37] <Elfboy>  is there a mp3 channel echo for xchat
[05:37] <wols> re-align: how did you tell it?
[05:37] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i just chmod'ed 777 it
[05:37] <fog_proxy> wols: I add the touch command at rc.local, but not work. I think rc.local did not executed, but I don't know why
[05:37] <NortonX> I have an Acer Aspire 5003WLCi and I need to get my wireless running...it wasnt running after install.... can someone help me?
i dont know where to even look for it, it never went to my desktop
[05:38] <willmacleod> goto ur firefox downloads window
[05:38] <re-align> wols, sudo ln (newdirectory) (olddirectory)
[05:38] <wols> fog_proxy: add the touch to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[05:38] <Frogzoo> re-align: you need to update /etc/passwd for the new homedir name
[05:38] <wols> re-align: that's not how it works. you didn't create anything new either.
[05:38] <Elfboy>  is there a mp3 channel echo for xchat
[05:38] <willmacleod> and right click on the file and select " open containing folder"
its empty
[05:38] <wols> re-align: you need to rename your home directory and change /etc/passwd
[05:38] <Decepticon> is taildmesg some kind of ubuntu thing?
[05:39] <wols> !patience | Elfboy
[05:39] <ubotu> Elfboy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:39] <Clinton__> Anyone familiar with scp?  It is possible to have a command such as "scp file.txt user@host:/dir1/dir2/dir3/file.txt" create the dir1, dir2, and dir3 directories if they don't exist?
[05:39] <Elfboy> ok sorry
[05:39] <willmacleod> smast: instead of figuring out where u put it, just redownload it and make sure it goes to desktop
[05:39] <khermans__> Elfboy, mp3 channel echo?
[05:39] <smast> ok
[05:39] <NortonX> I have an Acer Aspire 5003WLCi and I need to get my wireless running...it wasnt running after install.... can someone help me?
[05:39] <khermans__> Elfboy, you mean like text2speech ?
[05:39] <Elfboy> yes so i can show what mp3 im playing
[05:39] <khermans__> Elfboy, check out festival
[05:39] <wols> khermans__: an annoying script that tells the channel to which britney clone he listens right now
[05:40] <khermans__> Elfboy, oh thats something different
[05:40] <khermans__> Elfboy, investiagte mpd and mpc
[05:40] <Elfboy> maybe thats why i cant find anything
[05:40] <Elfboy> thanks
[05:40] <wols> !wireless
[05:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:40] <khermans__> wols, lol
[05:40] <willmacleod> sorry to throw this out there, but is there any good speech to text software on any platform?
[05:40] <khermans__> williamkp, speech to text?
[05:40] <re-align> K, editing the passwd file with vi (been awhile since I've used vi)
[05:41] <wols> willmacleod: yes. ViaVoice. there is no free software like that anywhere
[05:41] <wols> at least not a usable one
[05:41] <khermans__> willmacleod, Dragon Naturally Speaking or JAWS maybe, both Windows
[05:41] <re-align> managed to make the change...now...how do I get back out of Insert mode and save the file?
[05:41] <wols> khermans__: viavoice runs on linux
[05:41] <NortonX> I have a broadcom wireless I am trying to get running ...can someone please help?
[05:41] <wols> dragon might have a version too
[05:41] <khermans__> wols, thats text to speech not speech to text
[05:41] <willmacleod> i wasnt expecting it to be free, i was just wondering out loud lol
[05:41] <wols> NortonX: read the docs ubotu pasted for you or ask a proper, specific question
[05:42] <wols> khermans__: wrong
[05:42] <willmacleod> i did a set up of dragon naturally for someone but the initial setup thing took forever
[05:42] <novato_br> where can I find the libs libphysfs-1.0-0 and libsdl-gfx1.2 ?
[05:42] <wols> NortonX: search at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Dr_willis> willmacleod,  I found that out also.. then it dident work very well.
[05:42] <wols> novato_br: search at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Clinton__> Anyone familiar with scp?  It is possible to have a command such as "scp file.txt user@host:/dir1/dir2/dir3/file.txt" create the dir1, dir2, and dir3 directories if they don't exist?
[05:42] <Frogzoo> willmacleod: dragonspeaking works under wine I believe
[05:43] <willmacleod> i never actually used it lol
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Clinton__,  i think scp has the exact same options as cp. I belive theres an option to do that.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Clinton__,  i may be thinking of the mkdir  command its options however
[05:43] <unperson> If I want to transcode a compressed audio file from one format to mp3.  What's a good tool for that job?  Clearly I can just dump the audio from the first file to a WAV and then use lame to encode it.  Is there a program that cuts out the middle man?
[05:43] <khermans__> wols, ahh ok so it supports both and even on linuc
[05:43] <novato_br> thx,m wols
[05:43] <Clinton__> Dr_willis mkdir definately has that option, not sure about cp
[05:43] <novato_br> because i want to install LinCity-NG
[05:44] <syosoft> hey guys...how can i get useful info about my drive partitions?
[05:44] <adelie> my computer overheated transcoding a video (wtf???) and after reboot my menu's are missing. How can I get them back?
[05:44] <novato_br> and they aren't  packets
[05:44] <khermans__> sys0p7, df -h or mount
[05:44] <khermans__> sys0p7, or fdisk
[05:45] <Elfboy> is there a build for irc sys info
[05:45] <Elfboy> for xhat\
[05:45] <bknitram> Elfboy, xchat-xsys I think
[05:45] <adelie> OR how do I make a new menu bar without any already on my screen?
[05:45] <syosoft> very good khermans__.
[05:45] <bknitram> search for xsys in synaptic
[05:45] <rajiv_nair> my system with feisty gets really slow after ive seen some videos in youtube or after ive played some flv files from my hardisk using totem. I have beyl+XGL running and beryl animations also drag considerably. Any solution to this?
[05:45] <Elfboy> will do thanks
[05:46] <khermans__> rajiv_nair, gnash
[05:46] <tyler_d> looking for a good odb editor?
[05:46] <adelie> don't use beryl. try compiz window manager. many, just fewer, features
[05:46] <rajiv_nair> khermans_: i didnt have this problem when i was on dapper :(
[05:46] <adelie> How do I make a new menu bar?
[05:46] <dafan> Are X C++ development files included in Ubuntu by default, or do you have to apt-get?
[05:47] <tyler_d> dafan: apt-get
[05:47] <rajiv_nair> and even now beryl runs smoothly even when sys is heavily loaded as long as i dont touch flash
[05:47] <adelie> dev files are not included by default. check synaptic
[05:47] <dafan> Thank you.
[05:47] <willmacleod> adelie: right click on the menu and select new panel
[05:47] <khermans__> dafan, ending in -dev
[05:47] <rajiv_nair> and sys continues to drag even after ive closed that particular firefox session or stopped playing an flv
[05:48] <willmacleod> errr on an empty part of the panel srry
[05:48] <adelie> willmacleod what if I don't have any menu's?
[05:48] <khermans__> rajiv_nair, define "drag", cpu / disk / mem ?
[05:48] <willmacleod> adelie: im figuring that out now :)
[05:48] <khermans__> rajiv_nair, look at top
[05:49] <rajiv_nair> cpu disk and mem everythin seems fine if  go with the numbers shown in system monitor
[05:49] <adelie> rajiv_nair sounds like a caching issue. are you using firefox for playing videos?
[05:49] <willmacleod> adelie: why dont you have any menus?
[05:49] <rajiv_nair> but the system as a whole becomes sluggish
[05:49] <willmacleod> lol
[05:49] <rajiv_nair> adelie: firefox just for youtube
[05:50] <adelie> willmacleod my computer crashed from an overheat while transcoding a video. on reboot it couldn't find my hard drive (interupt error) and another restart worked fine, but no menus
[05:51] <tyler_d> **** sighs, no-one on the odb editor? ****
[05:51] <mister_roboto> tyler_d: what's odb?
[05:51] <khermans__> tyler_d, what is odb/
[05:51] <adelie> rajiv_nair try clearing the cache from the tools menu
[05:52] <adelie> but you say it has the same problem with other media players with .flv files?
[05:52] <tyler_d> organizers database...
[05:52] <rajiv_nair> ok
[05:52] <ratpoison> hello, I need some help using the emerald windows decorator. I have ati x1950 on feisty amd64. I use the "beryl" window manager, but I can only use the GTK window decorator. If I use emerald, my windows have no borders. Can anyone please help?
[05:52] <mister_roboto> tyler_d: google for "odb editor" has a bunch of hits. anything useful there?
[05:53] <rajiv_nair> adelie: problem still there
[05:53] <tyler_d> mister_roboto: first off... love the name... second... no editors there... just windows junk
[05:53] <adelie> rajiv_nair only other work around I can think is look for flash process and kill it / restart.
[05:53] <pyrak> i need some help configuring foreign-language keyboard options.  I have a standard US keyboard, but i'd like to be able to type with european accents and also in japanese if possible.
[05:53] <willmacleod> adelie : have you tried  "start gnome-panel"?
[05:54] <mister_roboto> ratpoison: i was playing around with beryl for a while and had the same problem. usually if i did <ctl> <alt> <backspace> to restart X, the borders would appear. never did get to the bottom of it
[05:54] <adelie> ....
[05:54] <tyler_d> mister_roboto: domo origato... lol
[05:54] <v3n0m`> hi i neeed help with this issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24364/
[05:54] <rajiv_nair> adelie: system restart works fine :D, but i dont wanna reboot my sys every single time i watch something on youtube :((
[05:54] <mister_roboto> tyler_d: :)
[05:54] <ratpoison> mister_roboto: I'll try it and brb. thnx for the info
[05:54] <adelie> rajiv_nair try to find a process hogging lots of resources and kill it
[05:55] <keith__> hello can anyone tell me how to install g++
[05:55] <adelie> not sure what else to do
[05:55] <adelie> willmacleod says already running
[05:55] <Dr_willis> keith,  installed 'build-essential' yet?
[05:55] <jessie_the_jeste> keith__, do sudo apt-get install built-essential and it will automaticlly do it.
[05:55] <keith__> thanks alot
[05:55] <gravemind> hey, does anybody know if there are benefits to using cdrdao with root priveleges?
[05:55] <willmacleod> have you tried killing it and then starting it through terminal?
[05:56] <khermans__> gravemind, burnfree support?
[05:56] <rajiv_nair> adelie:the only 1 i see is XGL using 3% CPU and 83 MB RAM
[05:56] <maikol> im upgrading from dapper to edgy and now dpkg is failing package configure because of misusing update-rc.d. is there something that replaced update-rd? if so how can i get it to be used to fix this
[05:56] <adelie> ouch
[05:56] <gravemind> khermans__: sounds good, what is it?
[05:56] <khermans__> gravemind, allows burner to stop and wait for data during mid-burn
[05:56] <gravemind> also I get this message: WARNING: No super user permission to setup real time scheduling.
[05:56] <ratpoison> mister_roboto: Nope, no luck :(
[05:56] <adelie>  rajiv_nair can you switch window managers and switch back?
[05:57] <khermans__> gravemind, right -- you can't elevate the priority
[05:57] <gravemind> khermans__: so, minimizes chances of making an error?
[05:57] <rajiv_nair> adelie: will do
[05:57] <mister_roboto> ratpoison: sorry, i don't know how to fix it. that's just what i used to do.
[05:57] <adelie> kill xgl without killing your desktop hopefully
[05:57] <LokiListens> hey guys, i'm getting an error when trying to install a dual boot.  "unable to resize partition" any ideas?
[05:57] <adelie> just stopping xgl sounds bad
[05:57] <khermans__> gravemind, yeah, but running cdrecord as root can be a security issue
[05:57] <rajiv_nair> adelie: switched to metacity and back to beryl
[05:57] <rajiv_nair> still slow:(
[05:58] <pyrak> what i need is the same kind of thing that windows' international input setting does.  So that when i type "'" then "e" i get the accented e.  Anyone know how i can do this?  the menus in the control center are thoroughly confusing me
[05:58] <gravemind> khermans__: ah, and that's what cdrdao uses to "write" I guess
[05:58] <khermans__> LokiListens, do it manually with gparted
[05:58] <ratpoison>  mister_roboto: thnx anyway, do you know of any good howtos? (other than the one in beryl's wiki or on ubuntuforums)
[05:58] <adelie> doesn't beryl have alternatives to using XGL?
[05:58] <LokiListens> Khermans_, installing ubuntu on a machine that already has xp, is gparted possible?
[05:59] <gravemind> LokiListens: yeah, it's on the live cd
[05:59] <gravemind> it can shrink ntfs partitons
[05:59] <DrStrangeLov> arggh...i've borked my system. Did an apt-get upgrade, rebooted, and now i dont have X.
[05:59] <willmacleod> Lokilistens : on the gparted disk there is a how to on how to do that
[05:59] <DrStrangeLov> i used to have nvidia-glx-legacy. tried reinstalling it- won't work
[05:59] <willmacleod> Lokilistens : youve gotta reset a registry setting first
[05:59] <rajiv_nair> adelie: yes AIGLX is there. but my card is an ATI and propreitary ATI drivers dont support AIGLX
[05:59] <rajiv_nair> :(
[06:00] <gravemind> DrStrangeLov: you can temporarily change your driver to vesa to get it working
[06:00] <mister_roboto> ratpoison: no, i don't. eventually i got tired of that problem and quit using it, waiting for it to be fixed. also, there's a merge of compiz and beryl that's supposed to be happening. i think i'll let things settle first before trying it again
[06:00] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, nvidia driver issue/
[06:00] <LokiListens> alright, i'll give that a try, thanks everyone.  i was trying from the alt install disk like the tutorials say
[06:00] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, there is a bug in -16 kernel
[06:00] <keith__>  sudo apt-get install built-essential doesn't   work says can't find file
[06:00] <GigaClon> anyone know how to change the font sizes flash uses in firefox?
[06:00] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: can i roll it back?
[06:00] <LokiListens> willmacleod, reset a registry?
[06:00] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, might need to revert to -15, dont know the fix, there is probably an update now
[06:00] <gravemind> khermans__: uh oh - I haven't rebooted yet, but I've already upgraded...... I use nvidia legacy
[06:00] <khermans__> gravemind, its only with some cards
[06:01] <gravemind> khermans__: ok
[06:01] <willmacleod> yupp because xp takes note of the partitions its surounded by
[06:01] <adelie> yay, I killed gnome-panel, and without restarying it, got my panels back
[06:01] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: i have no idea what -16/-15 has to do with the kernel-
[06:01] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, or just make -15 your default in menu.lst
[06:01] <willmacleod> its on the cd
[06:01] <ratpoison>  mister_roboto: I know just what you mean
[06:01] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, uname -r
[06:01] <willmacleod> adelie : yea cuz it auto restarts :)
[06:01] <v3n0m`> hi i neeed help with this issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24364/
[06:01] <LokiListens> willmacleod and everyone else, thanks, i may be back
[06:01] <willmacleod> peace out
[06:02] <DrStrangeLov> you mean the kernal- release eh? ok, but see, the thing is i am running 2.6.20-15
[06:02] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, so not -16 ?
[06:02] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, and it worked in -14 ?
[06:02] <rajiv_nair> how do i do a kernel upgrade?
[06:02] <gravemind> v3n0m`: you need to chown your stuff
[06:02] <khermans__> rajiv_nair, from apt?  aptitude upgrade
[06:03] <bruenig> apt-get upgrade
[06:03] <rajiv_nair> from synaptic?
[06:03] <gravemind> v3n0m`: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2308651
[06:03] <adelie>  rajiv_nair now that I have access to my panel again, right click beryl manager icon, and in advanced options, switch to strict bindings, nvidia driver, all that stuff away from automatic / XGL, then kill XGL
[06:04] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: let me check-i think it could've have had something to do with xorg updates rather than the kernel - cause i didnt do dist-upgrade- a simple upgrade's supposed to keep the kernel intact, right?
[06:04] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, i am unsure, i though upgrade would pull the kernel
[06:04] <rajiv_nair> adlie: ill try that
[06:05] <omegacenti> If I wanted to start dilly dallying with a virtual computer( say the windows XP partition on this hardrive) where should I start?
[06:05] <rajiv_nair> adelie: nvidia driver??..me on ATI
[06:05] <khermans__> omegacenti, ?
[06:06] <khermans__> omegacenti, is it virtual or not?
[06:06] <omegacenti> khermans__: I want to run a "virtual PC"
[06:06] <khermans__> omegacenti, check out vmware-server
[06:06] <adelie>  rajiv_nair rendering platform Force AIGLX
[06:06] <khermans__> free in ubuntu repos commercial
[06:06] <n2diy> omegacenti: system>prefrences> remote desktop?
[06:06] <adelie> rather than nvidia
[06:06] <rajiv_nair> adelie: but ATI drivers dosent support AIGLX
[06:06] <omegacenti> n2diy: Wrong topic :)
[06:06] <rajiv_nair> i have AIGLX disabled in xorg.conf
[06:07] <keith__> what is the get command to install the  built-essential
[06:07] <omegacenti> khermans__: Thanks. checking it out now. Do I need all this vmware player stuff and what now?
[06:07] <adelie>  rajiv_nair think found the problem  :)
[06:07] <rajiv_nair> adelie: :) ??
[06:07] <gravemind> keith__: you can do it in synaptic
[06:07] <n2diy> omegacenti: ok, I misunderstood the question then. :)
[06:07] <khermans__> omegacenti, you dont need vmwae player
[06:07] <syosoft> is there a way to lock a ext3 partition so i cant format/ write to it by accident?
[06:07] <omegacenti> np n2diy
[06:07] <gravemind> keith__: but the command is sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:07] <adelie>  rajiv_nair not sure what would happen. but could try force restart XGL
[06:07] <khermans__> keith, sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:08] <adelie>  rajiv_nair ATI
[06:08] <ratpoison> I need help on this issue! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24664/ (alsa 1.0.14 installation)
[06:08] <gravemind> keith__: both of those commands do the same thing : )
[06:08] <rajiv_nair> adelie: and how do i do force restart XGL without logging out?
[06:08] <adelie>  rajiv_nair sec..
[06:08] <omegacenti> khermans__: All I can find is vmware-server-kernal modules.
[06:08] <bruenig> rajiv_nair, #ubuntu-effects
[06:08] <DrStrangeLov> crap. nv/vesa fails to work as well.
[06:08] <MTecknology> Can I run VMWare Server in 7.04 w/o hacks yet?
[06:08] <khermans__> omegacenti, you need to add the commercial repos
[06:09] <keith__> that is it thank you very much
[06:09] <omegacenti> khermans__: Mind walking me through that?
[06:09] <khermans__> omegacenti, http://www.sumardi.net/2007/05/03/vmware-server-is-available-in-feisty-commercial/
[06:09] <gravemind> DrStrangeLov: ooh. I guess it's time to start loving the CLI
[06:09] <khermans__> gravemind, always love the cli
[06:09] <DrStrangeLov> Is it me or does apt-get upgrade breaks the system everytime? cause this isnt the first time since i've borked up a fresh installation after an upgrade
[06:09] <gravemind> khermans__: lol
[06:09] <keith__> have  a great evening
[06:09] <mariocesar_bo> hi all, i am looking for an app like Referencer http://icculus.org/referencer/. I want to share documents (pdf and odt) on a intranet
[06:10] <DrStrangeLov> gravemind: whatcha talking about? yeah, khermans__ my sentiments exactly.
[06:10] <ratpoison> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24664/
[06:10] <mariocesar_bo> anyone knows an app for it?
[06:10] <DrStrangeLov> but i don't fancy the idea of watching ergo proxy on cli using mplayer/svga thingy
[06:10] <omegacenti> khermans__: Is there anything else I should know about commercial?
[06:10] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, i always use -> aptitude dist-upgrad, never even run plain aptitude upgrade
[06:10] <adelie>  rajiv_nair use "sudo top -bn1 | grep XGL" to see if it has its own process id, then if so use "sudo kill 9 ####" where #### is the process id
[06:11] <rajiv_nair> aite
[06:11] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, mplayer -vo caca
[06:11] <mister_roboto> mariocesar_bo: it sounds like you found it already! (referencer)
[06:11] <gravemind> DrStrangeLov: just use the command line until there's another update that fixes the bug
[06:11] <mariocesar_bo> mister_roboto: i want to share all the library on a intranet
[06:11] <rajiv_nair> adelie: "sudo top -bn1 | grep XGL" didnt return anything
[06:11] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: i'll remember that. well, i think its about to get fixed now- did an update and upgrading now
[06:11] <adelie>  rajiv_nair otherwise, a little slower would be ctrl-alt-backspace, and log back in
[06:11] <mariocesar_bo> referencer just work in a workstation
[06:12] <willmacleod> adelie: quite the expert on beryl and xgl eh?
[06:12] <kiosk> helpp
[06:12] <adelie>  rajiv_nair tried logging out and back in?
[06:12] <rajiv_nair> adlie: cltr+alt+backspace does work.....
[06:12] <adelie> willmacleod evidently not
[06:12] <kiosk> My   ubuntu on  ssspeedd
[06:12] <kiosk> Everything is fasst
[06:12] <rajiv_nair> adelie: but the thought of having to do it after watching a video on youtube everytime :(
[06:12] <Assassin`> hey where can i get add ons for the gimp
[06:12] <Assassin`> :)
[06:12] <willmacleod> adelie: youre patience is awe inspiring lol
[06:12] <kiosk> typmatic rate, sys    clock , cursor blink rate
[06:12] <Nutubuntu> If I use LVM, can I create a single logical volume that will span two or more physical HDs?
[06:13] <omegacenti> khermans__: Is there any repercussions when using commercial? In other words, I don't know what "commercial" is.
[06:13] <khermans__> Nutubuntu, you mean RAID!?!?
[06:13] <khermans__> omegacenti, no repurcussions -- its just non-freedom software
[06:13] <Nutubuntu> khermans__ -  effectively, that would be a RAID0 array, kinda-sorta
[06:13] <khermans__> heh
[06:13] <omegacenti> khermans__: by non free, do you mean pay?
[06:13] <Nutubuntu> I'm just wondering if it's possible
[06:14] <khermans__> omegacenti, no pay, but you request a free serial number and enter it in
[06:14] <omegacenti> khermans__: ah
[06:14] <khermans__> Nutubuntu, dunno
[06:14] <omegacenti> khermans__: so enter this exactly in my repositories?: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[06:14] <kiosk> what controls system  time connnstants in linux
[06:15] <ajax4> Can anyone recommend a good video editor?
[06:15] <khermans__> omegacenti, just follow what that link I gave you said, but yes
[06:15] <finn> so is anyone running gutsy yet?  i'm trying to work out if i want to upgrade from feisty to see what it's like
[06:15] <khermans__> omegacenti, then you need to update and install the package
[06:15] <khermans__> ajax4, kino, cinelerra
[06:15] <n2diy> kiosk: the crystal that sets the clock speed?
[06:16] <khermans__> finn, im upgrading now
[06:16] <Nutubuntu> If I understand LVM properly, it would let me allocate a "pool" of blocks (I forget what it calls them) that I could then give to a logical volume, without regard to where the physical blocks actually live. But I don't know if I'm understanding it properly.
[06:16] <kiosk> didn't mess with it
[06:16] <willmacleod> good topic finn :) is anybody having any outstanding problems i should know about b4 i upgrade?
[06:16] <kiosk> Installed a new  power battery though
[06:16] <ajax4> khermans__: Thanks
[06:16] <khermans__> willmacleod, i heard good things fomr a few people who upgraded
[06:16] <kiosk> My  clock goes though a minute every  15 seconds
[06:16] <willmacleod> khermans : alright im doin it lol
[06:17] <khermans__> kiosk, check your PIT
[06:17] <finn> well, the update-manager doesn't work yet, but swapping each fesity for gutsy in /etc/apt/sources.list loads all the sources right
[06:17] <kiosk> PIT?
[06:17] <n2diy> kiosk: are you over clocking?
[06:17] <khermans__> kiosk, there is a PIT option to the kernel
[06:17] <finn> it's just a matter of updating 770 packages or so :)
[06:17] <kiosk> no   TP600 laptop
[06:17] <eric> can anyone help me out using rsync?
[06:17] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, ok, i am having conflicting reports, i finally got it accessing xstartup, and i see that its accessing my xauthority files and such, and when i put xterm in my xstartup i get an xterm window in the vnc'ed thing, however, i cannot get a window manager for anything.
[06:17] <kiosk> that for o-clocking?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  did ya use 'xterm &' ? or just 'xterm'
[06:18] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, i did an &
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !ask
[06:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:18] <kiosk> how do you   set kerrnel options again?
[06:18] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, what command actually starts up the ubuntu desktop
[06:19] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, or the login in screen or w/e for that matter.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  Interesting. try running 'gnome-session' from the terminal
[06:19] <racter> hi - can anyone recommend a gigabit ethernet card (pci) ?
[06:19] <racter> (that works well with ubuntu)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  'gnome-session' is the commnd for gnome.
[06:19] <CokeMan> Dr_willis,  i did, and oddly enough, it tells me i already have one open
[06:19] <Unr3sistabl3> how can i get my ubuntu disk to boot on my laptop
[06:19] <eric> ok then, lol... how do i merge dirA with dirB using rsycn? i want to merge two mp3 folders together.. preserving the file hierarchy (/artist/album/song)... anyone?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  ahh.. You got gnome running on your desktop you are usiong, then again inthe vnc session?
[06:19] <omegacenti> Sometimes linux is just so great.. Especially when somehow my download speeds are ALWAYS faster in Ubuntu...
[06:20] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, thats what i thought, so then i logged out and tried it, same effect
[06:20] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, unless the GUI login screen would be running under "my account"
[06:20] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: set your bios to boot from the cd before the hard drive.
[06:20] <Unr3sistabl3> it gives me an error saying "Cannot Boot From CD - Try CD2 or Update BIOS
[06:21] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: might be a bad burn on the cd?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> CokeMan,  i dont think so. Could try another window manager like icewm
[06:21] <NortonX> is it possible to get 3d acceleration running under ubuntu for my SiS card?
[06:21] <portaGeek> is there any reason why I would be having a hard time installing mysql-admin? I can't find the package
[06:21] <Unr3sistabl3> hold on
[06:21] <Unr3sistabl3> let me try to do it again
[06:21] <CokeMan> Dr_willis, so what then? apt-get install icewm and run icewm from the xterm window that i get?
[06:22] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: reduce the right speed on the burn, sometimes that helps.
[06:22] <portaGeek> !ubotu mysql-admin
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysql-admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Unr3sistabl3> i dont think that it was the burn though
[06:22] <eric> !rsync
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <Unr3sistabl3> because we tested it on my friends computer nd it worked
[06:23] <Frogzoo> Unr3sistabl3: check the md5sum of the cd
[06:23] <n2diy> Unr3sistabl3: my burner claims to be 14x, but I only burn a 6x.
[06:23] <NortonX> !sis
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <Unr3sistabl3> how do i check the md5sum of the cd?
[06:23] <MTecknology> I removed vmware-player through synaptic before trying to install vmware server but the vmware server still thinks vmware-player is installed. How do I fix this?
[06:24] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: bad news. i think dist-upgrade is doing exactly what you advised me against- installing 2.6.20-16
[06:24] <DrStrangeLov> i don't know what else to do- obviously the xorg-xserver version were upgraded when i did the apt-get upgrade
[06:24] <Frogzoo> Unr3sistabl3: something like sudo md5sum /dev/cdrom - should match the .iso's md5sum
[06:25] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: you might have to use the --purge option (not sure what that is in synaptic) to make sure all config files are removed too. maybe the server is seeing leftover config
[06:25] <vectknop> Unr3sistabl3: get the md5 from same site you get the iso; k3b will show you the md5 when it loads the iso before it burns the cd
[06:26] <khermans__> DrStrangeLov, well you can boot any kernel you like
[06:26] <DrStrangeLov> can anyone tell me how to return to the previous config- with the old xorg-xserver software and drivers?
[06:26] <eric> how would i merge dirA with dirB? i want to merge two mp3 folders together.. preserving the file hierarchy (/artist/album/song)... anyone?
[06:26] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem, some programs (firefox and enigma) are spontaneously closing, saying that their server connection is closed. As well scrolling stops working, and when enigma closes, the pointer freezes and I have to close X to reclaim it. Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop.
[06:26] <mister_roboto> DrStrangeLov: look in /etc/X11 for old xorg.conf files with timestamp extensions
[06:26] <n2diy> DrStrangeLov: Look for the back up file, should look like xorg.config~
[06:26] <re-align> Hmm...where'd the Ubuntu Community Docs go?
[06:26] <vectknop> Unr3sistabl3: compare the two numbers [one from iso site vs one that k3b reads from iso just before it burns] 
[06:26] <DrStrangeLov> khermans__: yeah- i tried doing that just now- using 2.6.20-12
[06:26] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: can I do that w/ something else?
[06:26] <DrStrangeLov> still wont work
[06:27] <re-align> All I can find through the officil and community site is the official docs...
[06:27] <newb_prob> if /dev/video0 does not exist, does it mean my webcam is not yet recognized?
[06:27] <re-align> The official docs, of course, don't help with my current problem...
[06:27] <gravemind> DrStrangeLov: khermans__: This is a good read for doing awesome stuff with CLI: http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/2007/05/21/a-day-without-x/
[06:27] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: well from the command line it's "apt-cache remove --purge <pgkname>"
[06:27] <zoltak> just wondering if you can get Beryl on 7.04 PPC?
[06:28] <finn> newb_prob, try installing camorama to check
[06:28] <Jocelyn> fuck
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | Jocelyn
[06:28] <ubotu> Jocelyn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:28] <newb_prob> finn: how does that help me? it just tells that it can't connect tot /dev';video0
[06:28] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: is there a ".vmware" or something similar in your home dir? if so, you could just remove it or rename it. usually user config files are stored in the user's home dir in a .xxx subdirectory
[06:29] <re-align> I'm trying to get images off an old digital camera. Problem is tht it uses the serial port instead of USB (my USB port os DOA anyway...)
[06:29] <finn> ok, well, do you have the name of the webcam?
[06:29] <newb_prob> yes, logitech orbit mp, and I have installed linux-uvc
[06:29] <zoltak> Does Aiprot on a PowerBook G4 1.67 Mhz work with 7.04
[06:29] <newb_prob> finn: but I can't get /dev/video0 to appears
[06:29] <newb_prob> finn: so neither xawtv, camE, qcam, nor camorama is much use at this point
[06:29] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: ya, there's one there...
[06:29] <billyd> If it's anything like a PalmPilot, you have to open up the serial port
[06:30] <kiosk> \
[06:30] <re-align> billyd, how would I do that?
[06:30] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: if you wanna be conservative, rename it, like: mv ~/.vmware ~/.vmware.old
[06:31] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I'm looking into your link, thx
[06:31] <finn> do you have the vendor id and product id from lsusb?
[06:31] <billyd> I don't remember now, but look at the PalmPilot HowTO at www.tldc.org
[06:31] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: my guess is the install program sees that config dir and is assuming it's installed
[06:31] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: there's a vmware folder too, get rid of that too?
[06:31] <mister_roboto> MTecknology: if you have already uninstalled everything vmware related, then yes. if you're not sure, you can just rename it
[06:31] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: .vmware was a directory
[06:32] <crackintosh> is compiz available for powerpc? google didnt help me.
[06:32] <re-align> billyd, link broken.
[06:32] <re-align> That domain can't be found. :(
[06:32] <DrStrangeLov> ok, even with the earliest most basic backup of xorg.conf i am getting an error- the detailed log says that the framebuffer device is missing.
[06:32] <billyd> How easy or difficult is installing Kubuntu in place of Suse 10.1??  I'm looking something more multimedia friendly
[06:32] <gravemind> v3n0m`: cool. I hope it works
[06:33] <levander> DrStrangeLov: isn't there an option when you run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that lets you turn on or off some software framebuffer?
[06:33] <mister_roboto> billyd: it's easy. just tell the installer to format that partition and install over it :)
[06:33] <Kai-laptop> is there a way to do a cdromless install (from iso, other media) from WITHIN ubuntu, to a new partition? like install... this one is screwed cause it wasnt actually installed from this hardware
[06:33] <levander> billyd: download the Kubuntu install CD, and boot off it.  You can run Kubuntu (or any Ubuntu) straight from the install CD as a LiveCD
[06:34] <billyd> I was hoping to be able to install wwithout re-formatting my partitions
[06:34] <Kai-laptop> vmware wont compile, so thats out of the picture
[06:34] <levander> billyd: booting the Install CD will tell you if you have any hardware incompatibities (which is the hard part)
[06:34] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: I'm using an admin nautilus to search for vmware
[06:34] <DrStrangeLov> levander: there is- ok, i'll turn it on and see what happens
[06:34] <MTecknology> i'll see if there's an extra config or something
[06:34] <fog_proxy> wols: I have tried. init.d/rc.local is working, but /etc/rc.local not
[06:35] <levander> billyd: i don't know the limitations of the program, but there's a program called parted (with a kde front-end available called kparted) that lets you resize partitions if you want to look into that
[06:35] <billyd> This computer was built for a Linux install - Monarch
[06:35] <omegacenti> Is there a way to run My windows XP partition at the same time as Ubuntu? (I want to run a window with Windows in it inside ubuntu)
[06:35] <ajax4> omegacenti: Use vmware
[06:35] <levander> omegacenti: Xen
[06:35] <omegacenti> levander: Xen?
[06:35] <levander> ajax4: why are you recommended vmware over xen?
[06:35] <Kai-laptop> is there a way to install from ubuntu with a cd iso, to another partition? like with chroot or something? or a way to launch the installer within ubuntu?
[06:36] <omegacenti> !Xen
[06:36] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[06:36] <ajax4> levander: Don't have any experience with Xen, but I have used vmware.
[06:36] <levander> ah
[06:36] <billyd> I do need to resize if possible.  I used g4u to clone a 120G disk to a 160 G sso I only got 120G usable at this time
[06:36] <ajax4> levander: What makes Xen better?
[06:36] <levander> i have no experience with either, but know Canonical's done some work integrating Xen into Ubuntu, and that's Xen's free software
[06:37] <Kai-laptop> anyone?
[06:37] <omegacenti> levander: Mind getting me started in the right direction if I am using Feisty?
[06:37] <ajax4> omegacenti: xen and vmware are Windows virtual machines, which essentially work like emulators.
[06:37] <levander> billyd: is the extra 40 GB partitioned or unpartitioned?
[06:37] <levander> omegacenti: i've never used it, search the wiki??
[06:37] <omegacenti> levander: I iwll try. Thanks.
[06:37] <billyd> It's unpartitioned.
[06:38] <dnl> What is the proper way to insert other operating systems (i.e. Windows) into Grub in Ubuntu so that the grub-update script doesn't remove the entry on an automatic kernel upgrade?
[06:38] <billyd> g4u will only clone 0 so I got 40G leftover
[06:38] <Kai-laptop> is there a way to say launch the installer from within ubuntu already? to install to another partition, in such case that there isnt a cdrom?
[06:38] <levander> xen isn't a "Windows virtual machine", it's partitions your hardware into virtual machines, so you can run multiple operating systems (of whatever flavor you like) on your hardware - e.g., you could run two Linux instances.
[06:39] <Aresilek> hi
[06:39] <Aresilek> what's the command to start vnc?
[06:39] <Frogzoo> ajax4: afaik, xen won't run a windows vm
[06:39] <billyd> I gots to go.  Nite  - thanks for the info
[06:39] <brylie> how do I install the Java GCJ [non proprietery version?]  to work in the mozilla browser?
[06:39] <DShepherd> Aresilek, vncviewer?
[06:39] <ShadowRelic> hello, ive been trying to get a driver for my tablet pc pen (i dont think it exists) but i ran into a source that was talking about using windows drivers in a wrapper for linux, does anyone have any info on this?
[06:39] <dnl> (is there a way to automatically redetect other operating systems and add them to menu.lst in a way that won't be overwritten?
[06:40] <levander> dnl: look at the comments in grub.conf, i believe grub-update regenerates grub.conf based on those comments
[06:40] <Aresilek> thanks DShepherd
[06:40] <DShepherd> Aresilek, ok
[06:40] <bullgard4> What is meant with 'tty11' in my /dev/tty11?
[06:40] <MTecknology> how can I run a purge from command line? I tried apt-cache remove --purge vmware-player but got an error
[06:40] <tovella> Kai-laptop: do you want ubuntu installed on different partitions on the same machine that does not have a CD drive?
[06:40] <ajax4> levander: Yeah, when I said they were "windows" virtual machines that was a typo. I have used several different oses under vmware, including windows.
[06:40] <n2diy> dnl: check out the man page for grub, something like grub reconfig, or something like that exsists.
[06:41] <levander> ShadowRelic: maybe they're talking about ndiswrapper??  i know people use that for wireless card drivers
[06:41] <DShepherd> MTecknology, apt-get remove --purge i think
[06:41] <Kai-laptop>  tovella yes
[06:41] <fog_proxy> When ubuntu bootup, which user is used to execute /etc/rc.local? root?
[06:41] <dnl> n2diy/levander: I have run the grub-update script, and it overwrites the custom Windows entry.
[06:41] <tovella> Kai-laptop: why?
[06:41] <Kai-laptop> exactly. this install bearly works. i need to install again, but on a diff partition, and i dont have a cdrom. i took this drive from another laptop and just popped it in
[06:41] <ShadowRelic> levander: could be, would that work for any driver?
[06:41] <kkathman> is there a way to program the mouse wheel to move from one desktop to the next without being on the actual desktop widget?
[06:42] <levander> dnl: but, have you modified the comments in grub.conf also?  it's the comments that are used to regenerate grub.conf
[06:42] <levander> ShadowRelic: i don't know, that's a guess, it's worth looking into
[06:42] <n2diy> dnl: I guess you'll have to manually edit grub.config then, never done that. Can you see the Winders partition?
[06:42] <Kai-laptop> tovella, a lot of stuff is broken. nothing will even compile.
[06:42] <tovella> Kai-laptop: do you have a flash-drive?
[06:43] <Kai-laptop> tovella, a 512 mb one yea... ?
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> but. the laptop cant usb boot
[06:44] <brylie> is there a sun java browser plugin that is Canonical supported?
[06:44] <dnl> n2diy: Yes, I can add the partition to menu.lst just fine.. it's just the issue of getting Ubuntu's scripts to recognize it.  (I'm quite familiar with Grub.. just not Ubuntu's scripts)
[06:44] <tovella> Kai-laptop: will your pc boot from a usb-flash or usb-zip?
[06:44] <NortonX> where do video driver files go to?
[06:44] <NortonX> what directory?
[06:44] <ShadowRelic> what is a good/free application to image my computer with?
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> tovella, not the one i need to reinstall on
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> a desktop here might
[06:44] <Kai-laptop> but probably not helpful
[06:44] <ajax4> ShadowRelic: Just make a disc image of one of your hard drive partitions?
[06:44] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I removed my .dmrc, .Xauthority, .ICEauthority directories so I can't chmod these directories
[06:44] <wall0159> hey all. Now that iTunes is selling DRM-free songs, I'm interested in shopping there. Is there a way to access the store from Linux?
[06:44] <ShadowRelic> ajax4, what program do you use?
[06:44] <tovella> Kai-laptop: the only way i'm familiar with would involve using another machine with ltsp installed.
[06:44] <n2diy> dnl: ok, then you know more than I do. So I don't know what to tell you now?
[06:45] <ajax4> wall0159: You can using iTunes under WINE, but there is no version for Linux that I'm aware of.
[06:45] <newb_prob> I have a QuickCam Orbit MP webcam. I have installed  linux-uvc. /dev/video0 still does not exist (thesefore  xawtv/camE/qcam/camaroma do not work, as expected). How do I  begin troubleshooting this mess
[06:45] <ajax4> ShadowRelic: You can do it from the command line using the "dd" command.
[06:45] <Kai-laptop> tovella, link to howto?/explanation? im unframiliar with ltsp / the method your talking about
[06:47] <wall0159> ajax4: ok thanks.. I was curious if the store interface had been reverse-engineered.. ;-)
[06:47] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: I installed vmware-player and I'm going to attempt to remive --purge it
[06:47] <tovella> Kai-laptop: you have another networked machine?
[06:47] <ShadowRelic> ajax4, im backing up windows xp
[06:47] <Kai-laptop> tovella, yea.
[06:47] <flake> wall0159 - be careful with those drm-free songs, if you let a buddy borrow it and it ends up on some server, they can trace it back to you as they put your info in the file, not sure if they put the cc# in too
[06:47] <levander> dnl: I know that there are comments in some configuration file that update-grub reads and generates the new configuration on, i'm looking on my system though and can not find it
[06:47] <ajax4> wall0159: No, but I'm sure someone's working on it somewhere :)   I prefer just buying CDs and ripping them. No DRM that way.
[06:47] <mngrif> does anyone know if the Nvidia 8600M GT supports direct rendering?
[06:47] <Kai-laptop> tried netboot PXE server last night but it failed. thinking about trying again from another system
[06:47] <wall0159> flake: ;-) year I've heard that..
[06:47] <dnl> levander: You mean /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:47] <v3n0m`> flake: since there's no DRM, is this information not strippable?
[06:47] <flake> don't see why there isn't something out there already to do that, but i read you can hex-edit spaces into it
[06:47] <portaGeek> can someone help me out with a little Lamp + MediaWiki issue.
[06:47] <v3n0m`> RGR
[06:47] <wall0159> ajax4: uh huh :-) I wouldn't be too surprised either...
[06:48] <brylie> !java
[06:48] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:48] <tovella> Kai-laptop: a net-install diskette (like what debian has) would be ideal, but since i don't know of one for ubuntu, let me find a link for an net-boot, using an ltsp server.
[06:48] <n2diy> re-align: is it a comm port connection between the camera and computer?
[06:48] <levander> dnl: read skelter's comment at the bottom of this post: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=96509133&m=368004297731&r=368004297731#368004297731
[06:48] <re-align> n2diy, probably
[06:48] <thinkabout> How can I play rmvb files?? I tried to play a file with gxine and appears a error saying smething about a library called drvc.so.
[06:49] <wall0159> well, thanks gentlefolk, I'd better get back to work :-)
[06:49] <Kai-laptop> tovella, great, thanks. i know this can boot PXE but no idea what ltsp even is... and it has no floppy. the only 2 things it can boot right now are hd and pxe
[06:49] <re-align> It's an old RCA CDS1005. I'd use the USB cable, but the one USB port I have on the laptop is DOA. :/
[06:49] <MTecknology> mister_roboto: I removed it w/ a purge, searched the whole HD for occurances of vmware, dleted them, and did an apt-get autoremove  -- should I be ready to try to install again?
[06:49] <n2diy> re-align: probably? That doesn't fly! :) USB or DB9 connector?
[06:49] <re-align> DB9
[06:49] <johnficca> Hi I'm using the new gnome main menu and then i click on more applications nothing happens and also the control center is missing on the right, any way to fix??
[06:49] <mistone> how do I make ubuntu resume its sleep by pressing any key on the keyboard?
[06:50] <mistone> it works in my vista install
[06:50] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, comm port. Do you have minicom installed?
[06:50] <johnficca> when*
[06:50] <portaGeek> NM, FIgured it out :)
[06:50] <beardbar> how do i restart xwindows after making xorg.conf changes
[06:50] <bastid_raZor> Vista heh
[06:50] <re-align> Let me check
[06:50] <re-align> If it's not installed by default then no
[06:50] <bastid_raZor> beardbar: you could ctrl alt backspace
[06:50] <levander> beardbar: /etc/init.d/x11-xcommon restart
[06:50] <re-align> I'll go get it if it's not there
[06:51] <beardbar> levander: thanks!
[06:51] <Nutubuntu> Hi all - I'm planning to replace an aging disk and at the same time migrate from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu Feisty. I'd be grateful if someone could sanity check my plan at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24669/
[06:51] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, open a terminal, and type minicom, what happens?
[06:51] <dnl> levander: Ok, thanks for that link.  I think the problem is that I was inserting the Windows section in the debian kernel section of the file, which caused it to be erased.  (I need to put it outside the domain of the "automagic kernels list")
[06:51] <levander> dnl: yeah, i see what you're saying, sounds right...
[06:52] <dnl> levander: (I was editing it too quickly and didn't bother to read the comments... I see now that it says "put static boot stanzas before and/or after the automagic kernel list"
[06:52] <tovella> Kai-laptop: the article i found & have used before is for multiple versions of linux, but you can limit it to just one if you like... http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_pxe_install_server
[06:52] <re-align> Not installed, installing now.
[06:52] <gravemind> v3n0m`: ...why did you remove that stuff? Anyway, how's it going?
[06:52] <levander> dnl: note that the first poster's name in that thread is "levander" - i don't think anyone reads the comments when they edit that file
[06:52] <newb_prob> how do I fix this error form xawtv? : X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[06:52] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, use my nick in your replies, or I might miss them, ok.
[06:53] <re-align> n2diy, keep forgetting
[06:53] <re-align> n2diy, it's installed now
[06:53] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem, some programs (firefox and enigma) are spontaneously closing, saying that their server connection is closed. As well scrolling stops working, and when enigma closes, the pointer freezes and I have to close X to reclaim it. Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop.
[06:54] <n2diy> re-align: roger that. :) Do you know what speed and protocol your camera's comm port are set too?
[06:54] <puff> Hm, I'm trying to get write support for an external NTFS hard drive. Supposedly I should be able to use ntfs-config, but the external drive doesn't show up when I run ntfs-config (though it does show up in /media/LACIE).
[06:54] <re-align> n2diy, no clue.
[06:54] <johnficca> it is very unusable right now
[06:54] <tovella> Kai-laptop: here's a more recent example http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[06:54] <n2diy> re-align: :/ And let me guess, you don't have the manual?
[06:55] <re-align> I have the disk for Windows...let's see if it contains anything useful...
[06:55] <puff> Argh/
[06:55] <puff> Argh.
[06:55] <Kai-laptop> tovella, thanks. trying
[06:55] <re-align> n2diy, see above ^^
[06:55] <NortonX> whats the command to tell if your vga card has opengl support?
[06:55] <puff> Something weird is going on, I get "bad disk" when I try to burn a dVD.
[06:57] <tovella> Kai-laptop: oh, yeah...you don't need a complete ltsp server.  tftp will work just fine.
[06:57] <mistone> holy shit I just printed something over my network instally out the box,  I couldn't do that in vista. you guys kick ass
[06:57] <n2diy> re-align: See above for what, all I see is you are looking at the Winders disk?
[06:57] <kitsuneofdoom> I am having a problem, some programs (firefox and enigma) are spontaneously closing, saying that their server connection is closed. As well scrolling stops working, and when enigma closes, the pointer freezes and I have to close X to reclaim it. Ubuntu 7.04 on a laptop. I might have just installed kubuntu-desktop when it started (but I'm still primarily using GNOME)
[06:57] <__mikem> !ohmy | mistone
[06:57] <ubotu> mistone: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:57] <re-align> n2diy, That was it, realized too late that I forgot to include your nick. :)
[06:57] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[06:57] <sybermile> i have a question
[06:57] <Nutubuntu> kitsuneofdoom - enigma is a browser?
[06:57] <MTecknology> !enigma
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enigma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <n2diy> sybermile: half the people here have problems, that is why we are here!
[06:58] <MTecknology> !info enigma
[06:58] <ubotu> enigma: A game where you control a marble with the mouse. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.00-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 926 kB, installed size 2428 kB
[06:58] <kitsuneofdoom> Nutubuntu: it's a game. It just happens to crash as well
[06:58] <puff> Something odd is going on with my dvd burner, no matter what disk I put in, it tells me it's a bad disk.
[06:58] <sybermile> when ever i have beryl running on my laptop and i close the lid to make it sleep when i open the lid to wake it up it is frozen
[06:58] <MTecknology> sybermile: me too :)
[06:58] <MTecknology> I've just never used sleep of hibernate :P
[06:58] <Nutubuntu> kitsuneofdoom - I see ... sorry; misunderstood.
[06:58] <re-align> n2diy, amazingly enough (sarcasm) there doesn't appear to be anything useful here...
[06:59] <sybermile> my lappy is a dell e1405
[06:59] <levander> puff: you've looked at the discs, and they are clean?  could try a dvd cleaner (not a disc cleaner) - a dvd cleaner is a disc you put in your drive to clean it
[06:59] <n2diy> re-align: ok, what about the camera's menu's, do they offer any clues?
[06:59] <re-align> n2diy, ROFL, menus?
[06:59] <fog_proxy> Can I add a command with parameter in /etc/rc.local, so that it can execute at the boot time? ( I mean does the rc.local support parameter command line? )
[06:59] <ajax4> puff: could also be the cables, could also be a failing burner. I've had a few go bad on me.
[07:00] <n2diy> re-align: yes :/
[07:00] <re-align> n2diy, it's an old RCA CDS1005
[07:00] <puff> levander: The disks are brand new, so yeah.  I could see a dvd cleaner helping.  I haven't really used my CD/DVD reader/writer hardly at all, but the laptop is 1.5 years old.
[07:00] <re-align> n2diy, No menus per se
[07:00] <puff> ajax4: No cables, it's a laptop burner.
[07:00] <LokiListens> okay, i tried gparted with the livecd, and it still gives me the error that the windows partition cannot be resized.  ideas?
[07:00] <re-align> n2diy, I can change the EV and resolution (somehow...)
[07:00] <puff> This is frustrating... my hard drive is full and I can't get ntfs write or CD burning to work.
[07:01] <nuked_omen> puff: install ntfs-3g
[07:01] <nuked_omen> and ntfs-config
[07:01] <n2diy> re-align: ok, without the baud rate, and protocol, I.E 8e1, we don't have much of a chance talking to it with minicom, maybe google can tell you that?
[07:01] <ajax4> !ntfs-3g
[07:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[07:02] <puff> nuked_omen: I did.  the external drive doesn't show up when I run ntfs-config.
[07:02] <re-align> n2diy, looking now
[07:02] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[07:02] <ajax4> nuked_omen: Is NTFS reliable under Linux?
[07:02] <nuked_omen> puff: does it get mounted though?
[07:02] <bullgard4> What is meant with 'tty11' in my /dev/tty11?
[07:02] <crimsun> ajax4: via ntfs-3g, yes.
[07:02] <puff> nuked_omen: The ntfs?  For read, yes.
[07:02] <LokiListens> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an xp machine, the ntfs partitions don't help me
[07:02] <crimsun> ajax4: at least IME.  YMMV.
[07:03] <re-align> n2diy, my bet is that since it is supposed to primarily use USB that the rate is rather high
[07:03] <nuked_omen> puff: install ntfs-config.. it'll let you control how the ntfs partition is mounted
[07:03] <sybermile> ntfs-g3 has never worked for me on vista
[07:03] <ajax4> crimsun: Well, last I heard NTFS support was spotty under Linux, but I have never heard of ntfs-3g before.
[07:03] <puff> nuked_omen: I did. The external drive doesn't show up when I run ntfs-config.
[07:03] <re-align> n2diy, unfortunately, RCA doesn't seem to support it anymore...:(
[07:03] <puff> nuked_omen: Though it shows up in /media/LACIE.
[07:03] <n2diy> re-align: You told me it was a DB9 connector, that is serial port!
[07:04] <re-align> n2diy, it came with 2 cables. 1 for USB and 1 for serial.
[07:04] <puff> Does a shortage of hard drive space (e.g. only 185MB) interfere with DVD burning?
[07:04] <nuked_omen> puff: wierd.. unmount it and remount it with the ntfs-3g driver
[07:04] <re-align> n2diy, I can;t use the USB as my laptop's USB port is DOA.
[07:04] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, which cable are you using?
[07:06] <re-align> n2diy, the DB9
[07:06] <ajax4> puff: Yes, it could depending on what modes  you are burning in.
[07:06] <puff> ajax4: How would I check that?
[07:06] <NortonX> how can I tell if my graphics card supports opengl?
[07:06] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I was told to by other helpers (I assumed these directories would be regenerated with the correct permissions automatically)
[07:06] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, check your bios settings, and make sure your serial ports are enabled.
[07:06] <v3n0m`> gravemind: It is not going well, I'm forced to use windows
[07:06] <NortonX> theres got to be a command of some sort
[07:06] <re-align> n2diy, already done, it's set to use com1
[07:06] <ajax4> puff: Well, if you are burning "on the fly" it may not affect your burning, but if it needs to create a disk image first and then burn that image, you will need lots of free space.
[07:06] <nuked_omen> puff: i'm guessing you just don't mount the ntfs partition with write support but you have the drivers to do that
[07:06] <LokiListens> okay, i tried gparted with the livecd, and it still gives me the error that the windows partition cannot be resized.  ideas?
[07:06] <puff> nuked_omen: How do I remount it with the ntfs-3g driver?  That is, am I supposed to see it in ntfs-config then, or do I need to edit /etc/mtab?
[07:06] <nuked_omen> LokiListens: gparted and qtparted never worked for me.. i just use fdisk
[07:06] <robert98374> Hello everyone!
[07:06] <ajax4> puff: If you are burning a disc image that is already created, drive space probably would not be an issue.
[07:06] <dorobu> Might someone be able to assist me with getting my screen resolution over 1024x768?
[07:06] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, and this is laptop right? With NO external mouse?
[07:06] <LokiListens> i'm getting the error with the alt-install cd too
[07:06] <puff> ajax4: Ah, probably not already created.  Okay, so generally it needs enough space on the drive to cache an image of the disk to be created?
[07:07] <nuked_omen> puff: it's better to put it in /etc/mtab
[07:07] <re-align> n2diy, correct
[07:07] <kkathman> so I guess one cannot control the desktop rotation with the mouse wheel ??
[07:07] <puff> nuked_omen: Hokay.
[07:07] <nuked_omen> puff: i thought you should put it in /etc/fstab
[07:07] <robert98374> I am having some issues with conky, i am trying to get a calender to show up but its not working, samething with an rss feed
[07:07] <manual_overide> w00t just got my resolution working!
[07:07] <nuked_omen> puff: but i'm not that geeky to know
[07:07] <re-align> n2diy, the machine is an old Dell Latitude CPx
[07:07] <NortonX> is there a command to check if my sis card supports opengl?
[07:07] <puff> nuked_omen: Yeah, sorry, mtab is generated automagically IRRC.
[07:08] <ajax4> puff: Mostly yes, unless you use "on the fly" burning.
[07:08] <n2diy> re-align: Ok, so now we have to go fishing. Roger on the old Dell. Run minicom in a terminal, and set it up to talk to comm one at 4800 baud, with 8e1 and let me know what happens?
[07:09] <NortonX> is there a command to check if my sis card supports opengl?
[07:09] <manual_overide> NortonX: do you have X running?
[07:09] <NortonX> yes
[07:09] <spik1> wow
[07:09] <manual_overide> you could try to run glxgears from a terminal
[07:09] <spik1> XD
[07:09] <robert98374> anyone here comfortable with conky?
[07:09] <gravemind> v3n0m`: backup your data (if you have any) and reinstall ubuntu if you can't find a better solution.
[07:10] <spik1> hello
[07:10] <LokiListens> well, i've been though absolute hell, a lot of tutorials, and no one can seem to tell me why i'm getting this error.  i guess i'll stick with xp for now  :(
[07:10] <robert98374> spik1 hello
[07:10] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[07:10] <nuked_omen> puff: also, make sure you turn off windows by shutting it down.. if you don't follow the right procedure for shutting down windows, it'll be hard to mount the ntfs partition on linux
[07:10] <gravemind> LokiListens: what was your problem again?
[07:10] <NortonX> manual_overide, that works smoothly for like 5 seconds then runs kinda choppy after that... any idea as to why?
[07:10] <LokiListens> cannot resize windows partition with gparted or alt-install cd
[07:10] <gravemind> LokiListens: right, can't be resized
[07:10] <manual_overide> NortonX: nope.  does the same for me on my radeon mobility
[07:11] <ajax4> LokiListens: How much empty space is on the partition?
[07:11] <manual_overide> the fps it prints to the terminal are all about the same though
[07:11] <gravemind> LokiListens: If I were you, i'd try to verify that it is not corrupted or anything. Have you already tried that?
[07:11] <LokiListens> ajaz4 50g
[07:11] <manual_overide> NortonX: I assume the fact that it runs means your card supports opengl
[07:12] <LokiListens> gravemind yeah, it's in perfect working order
[07:12] <manual_overide> I could be wrong though
[07:12] <NortonX> ok
[07:12] <ajax4> LokiListens: How big is the partition?
[07:12] <gravemind> LokiListens: is it ntfs?
[07:12] <LokiListens> ajax4 windows partition 150g
[07:13] <LokiListens> gravemind yes ntfs
[07:13] <ajax4> Anyone know how to get rid of the messages of people joining and leaving? I'm using xchat.
[07:13] <n2diy> re-align: n2diy decides to load minicom, since he doesn't have it on Dapper!
[07:13] <gravemind> LokiListens: and you've done an fsck on it?
[07:13] <ajax4> gravemind: Does gparted even resize ntfs partitions?
[07:13] <LokiListens> gravemind fsck?  that's the first i've heard mentioned of that
[07:13] <cables> ajax4: it does
[07:13] <re-align> n2diy, using Feisty on the laptop. XP here on the desktop.
[07:14] <n2diy> re-align: roger, roger. :)
[07:14] <biglinux> blz..
[07:14] <ajax4> cables: Apparently support for NTFS has improved greatly since I last looked into it :)
[07:14] <novato_br> haven't utorrent version for linux?
[07:14] <biglinux> :P
[07:14] <gravemind> ajax4, yes it does. LokiListens: fsck checks your filesystem for errors, even if it seems to work
[07:14] <k1gwb> I know this is probably supposed to be easy, but how do I add 2 commands to be started when my computer boots, regardless of whether anyone is logged in or not?
[07:14] <biglinux> (Y)
[07:15] <gravemind> LokiListens: I'm not exactly sure how to use it though
[07:15] <abhi> UBUNTU ROCKS!!! :)
[07:15] <cables> novato_br: no, but you can run it in Wino.
[07:15] <cables> novato_br: sorry, Wine
[07:15] <gravemind> !fsck
[07:15] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[07:15] <LokiListens> gravemind, is it on the livecd?
[07:15] <ajax4> abhi: I know :)
[07:15] <nuked_omen> abhi: right on!
[07:15] <gravemind> LokiListens: it should be. It's pretty important
[07:15] <novato_br> i won't wine
[07:15] <puff> ajax4: Btw, here's the error from the cd burning:  genisoimage: Directories too deep for 'medsage/branches/medsage1/docs/sitemockup/assets/Fireworks/CVS' (7) max is 6. :-( write failed: Input/output error
[07:15] <puff> ajax4: In gnomebaker.
[07:15] <LokiListens> gravemind, ajax4, thanks, i may be back
[07:15] <cables> novato_br: Wine is software that lets you run Windows programs in Linux
[07:16] <michael_> has anyone gotten the mic working on the HP Pavillion DV6000/DV9000
[07:16] <puff> ajax4:  I'd missed that option to get more rror details.
[07:16] <michael_> ! mic
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <gravemind> LokiListens: alright - look into fsck if possible
[07:16] <v3n0m`> gravemind: I
[07:16] <ajax4> novato_br: Have you tried Azureus?
[07:16] <novato_br> ok
[07:16] <LokiListens> gravemind, going to try it now
[07:16] <novato_br> no, ajax4
[07:16] <novato_br> i want utorrent because it's nice software
[07:16] <cables> novato_br: install Wine through Add/Remove, then try uTorrent. Azureus on Ubuntu tends to have issues.
[07:16] <v3n0m`> gravemind: am aware of that option, but I've a feeling it's a very simple problem, given what I've heard from others..
[07:17] <novato_br> thx
[07:17] <nuked_omen> azureus rokcs
[07:17] <ajax4> novato_br: Azureus is better IMHO.
[07:17] <nuked_omen> rocks*
[07:17] <puff> Hm, is this channel being logged?
[07:17] <novato_br> but i cant run with WINE in here
[07:17] <cables> ajax4: it's slower, and crashes all the time
[07:17] <gravemind> v3n0m`: have you tried just recreating those folders and files (and just leaving them empty?)
[07:17] <cables> novato_br: what do you mean? You can certainly run Wine.
[07:17] <nuked_omen> i don't have issues with azureus.. you probably have issues with java
[07:17] <novato_br> i can't run it
[07:17] <cables> novato_br: would you prefer a portuguese channel?
[07:17] <cables> novato_br: it works fine for me.
[07:17] <novato_br> nobody is overthere
[07:18] <ajax4> cables: Works fine for me. What do you prefer?
[07:18] <novato_br> everyone sleeps know
[07:18] <cables> puff: by me and a million others, as well as by bots, where it gets posted to a site.
[07:18] <immibis> dns does not work properly for me, i have ubuntu 5 breezy
[07:18] <novato_br> i'll try again, cables
[07:18] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - was it you wanting to know how to hide the join/part messages in xchat?
[07:18] <ajax4> puff: The error message suggests that the problem is not with your burner.
[07:18] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: Yes
[07:18] <gravemind> novato_br: everyone has their favorite bt client, but sadly utorrent doesn't work natively on linux, why not use an alternative, you may grow to like it or at least tolerate it
[07:19] <n2diy> re-align: DLed minicom, but now I have a problem, it won't run, I don't have permission to run tty8! That blows.
[07:19] <puff> cables: Drat, I'd rather that error message not get logged to a site.
[07:19] <re-align> n2diy, run as sudo
[07:19] <novato_br> ok, gravemind
[07:19] <re-align> n2diy, I had that problem as well.
[07:19] <puff> Ah well.
[07:19] <cables> novato_br: not everything works with Wine, but uTorrent works surprisingly well. To make it work, right click the EXE, click Open With, choose Custom Command, and type "wine" in the Custom Command box.
[07:19] <novato_br> i'll trie the Deluge
[07:19] <n2diy> re-align: ah, let try that.
[07:19] <Azu1> just use azureus, then you won't have trouble switching OS's because it runs on everything, even mac
[07:19] <puff> Okay, so I'm looking at editing /etc/fstab to have it mount the LACIE drive with whatever options.  Next question is, what options?
[07:20] <novato_br> but i don't download very fast
[07:20] <Azu1> i just don't like emulators and compatibility layer
[07:20] <Azu1> s
[07:20] <re-align> n2diy, I've no clue how to configure it, the manual confuses me...:/
[07:20] <n2diy> re-align: Yep, that was it.
[07:20] <cables> novato_br: Deluge doesn't have the features of uTorrent, but it's still very nice.
[07:20] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: How do you hide the join/part messages in xchat?
[07:20] <immibis> dns does not work properly for me. i have breezy badger on an old laptop which is connected to the internet via another computer.
[07:20] <novato_br> but cable, i don't understand very well the wine, yet
[07:20] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - it is a SET command. I think it's "set irc_conf_mode on"
[07:20] <cables> Azu1: Azureus doesn't work for me. It crashes after about 20 minutes, then won't work again until I delete ~/.azureus
[07:20] <novato_br> ok
[07:20] <cables> novato_br: just follow what I told you and it should work
[07:21] <cables> ajax4: right click on the tab, uncheck Show Join/Part
[07:21] <immibis> does anyone know what might be wrong?
[07:21] <cables> /ctcp ajax4 version
[07:21] <cables> damn
[07:21] <michael_> how do i find the alsa version?
[07:21] <gravemind> novato_br: bittornado is an excellent light weight client, if that's what you're looking for. supports prioritization and other things too
[07:21] <Azu1> puff: i'll post you the line that mounts my drive
[07:21] <cables> that doesn't work in Pidgin?
[07:21] <ajax4> cables: Did it, thanks.
[07:21] <Azu1> /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:21] <crimsun> michael_: cat /proc/asound/version
[07:21] <novato_br> ok, cables
[07:21] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: I put yours in also, though I don't know if it worked or not.
[07:21] <eric> how would i merge dirA with dirB? i want to merge two mp3 folders together.. preserving the file hierarchy (/artist/album/song)... anyone?
[07:21] <novato_br> ok, gravemind
[07:22] <n2diy> re-align: ok, ctrl+a, then z for the command list.
[07:22] <novato_br> good choice
[07:22] <Azu1> puff: i forgot the UUID
[07:22] <Azu1> UUID=62383E7F383E5271 /media/hda1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[07:22] <novato_br> gravemind, bittornado have one GUI ?
[07:22] <zero> there is any php channel?
[07:23] <Azu1> puff: i think you can replace the UUID with /dev/hdxx
[07:23] <Azu1> zero: #php
[07:23] <cables> zero: ##php
[07:23] <immibis> 'host' *always* told me that the dns response was invalid
[07:23] <zero> im confuse with multidimensional array in php
[07:23] <zero> ok thx
[07:23] <Azu1> php is confusing
[07:23] <eric> lol
[07:23] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - I'm wrong; that doesn't seem to do it ... sorry :(
[07:23] <ajax4> Nutubuntu: No problem, did you see the suggestion cable had for doing it?
[07:24] <re-align> n2diy, K, got the speed set to 4800, now what?
[07:24] <zero> damn overflow
[07:24] <gravemind> novato_br: it has a gui, yes.
[07:24] <dfgas> i have an ati radeon 7200, what do i need to do to get 3d on it?
[07:24] <puff> Azu1: thanks.
[07:24] <n2diy> re-align: ok, wait one.
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> ajax4 - I'm so dumb. No, I missed it, and yes, it seems to work
[07:24] <Azu1> puff: :)
[07:24] <Nutubuntu> t/y cable
[07:25] <zero> php channel it's full or somthing :S it says overflow when i try to get int
[07:25] <ajax4> zero: hehehe
[07:25] <zero> any of you could help me with php?
[07:25] <zero> ajax4: you should know php :P
[07:25] <aroo> ##php
[07:25] <ajax4> zero: I've dabbled in php, but I'm far from an expert.
[07:26] <zero> aroo: i tried that too
[07:26] <Azu1> yeah, the php channel is always packed.. i don't know how you can have a convo there
[07:26] <flowingfire> Hi!  I'm trying to follow a set of instructions for Ubuntu, but I'm not sure how to implement them in Kubuntu.  It says "Go to System->Preferences->Sessions and click the Startup Programs tab."  Then it instructs me to add a complex command line... How do I do this in Kubuntu?
[07:26] <aroo> #kubuntu
[07:26] <ajax4> zero: Have you tried the php documentation on their website?
[07:26] <flowingfire> aroo: nobody is there
[07:26] <zero> ajax4: confusing
[07:26] <puff> What's the /dev/hdxx line?  That is, how do I determine what xx needs to be?  dmesg?
[07:26] <aroo> Someone answered you.
[07:26] <flowingfire> oh wait n/m
[07:26] <flowingfire> thx
[07:26] <zero> ajax4: it's just a matter with arrays
[07:26] <n2diy> re-align: ctrl+a then o, then serial port setup.
[07:27] <ALL4N> puff: use the mount command to see which of the dev/hdxx is mounted where
[07:27] <puff> zero: Oka, ask again on #php and I'll try to figure it out.
[07:27] <Azu1> puff: i use "fdisk -l"  it lists the partitions and the /dev/whatever for them
[07:27] <v3n0m`> gravemind: will do =)
[07:27] <re-align> n2diy, Right
[07:27] <gravemind> v3n0m`: it might not work, but it's worth a try
[07:27] <zero> puff still overflow
[07:27] <NortonX> is there a command that shows my graphics card supports opengl
[07:27] <Azu1> zero: keep trying
[07:27] <NortonX> besides glxgears
[07:28] <LokiListens> i can't figure out fsck.  i'm just going to wait, pick up an external hard drive, copy everything i can to it, and then try again
[07:28] <gravemind> v3n0m`: it might also be easy just to make another user and delete the old broken one
[07:28] <ajax4> Azu1: You know of a good gui program for mounting new hard drives that adds them to fstab?
[07:28] <aroo> glxinfo | grep direct
[07:28] <amonbish> hello
[07:28] <zero> nevermind i'll just ask maybe some could help me
[07:28] <gravemind> LokiListens: I think it's just fsck /dev/windows partition
[07:28] <dekay> Is there a good perl script writing program for ubuntu?
[07:28] <puff> dekay: EmacS?
[07:28] <gravemind> LokiListens: for me it's fsck /dev/sda1
[07:28] <Azu1> ajax4: no, i always mount my drives from CLI.. i'm sure i came across one in the default repositories
[07:28] <PirateHead> Does anybody know whether Ubuntu is releasing an UMPC or something?
[07:28] <plugs> what is an "SM bus?"
[07:28] <LokiListens> gravemind, i know almost nothing of linux.  let me try those.
[07:29] <gravemind> LokiListens: not yet!
[07:29] <keev> hey whats that one program called that installs vid drivers? i think Envy?
[07:29] <amonbish> I'll think about it
[07:29] <zero> gal[$i] [$j]  = $row['path_name']     does not works, it does with c++.....
[07:29] <zero> it says syntax error
[07:29] <puff> Azu1: It's unmouned at the moment; it automounted fine, but then it didn't show up when I tried ot use ntfs-config to mount it for writing, so I umounted it.
[07:29] <aroo> zero, this is not a programming supoprt channel
[07:29] <PirateHead> dekay: emacs and vi are both good choices. Also give a look at xemacs.
[07:29] <gravemind> LokiListens: open up gparted and find out the name of your windows partition
[07:29] <ajax4> Azu1: So do I but I know a newbie that wanted to do it so I wanted to find something easier for them.
[07:29] <aroo> support*
[07:29] <re-align> n2diy, Next?
[07:29] <v3n0m`> gravemind: rgr
[07:30] <puff> /dev/sdb1   *           1       30401   244196001    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:30] <gravemind> v3n0m`: ?
[07:30] <zero> aroo: i know and i am sorry....
[07:30] <ajax4> zero: Arrays are different in php. I think you have to use array( x, y, z )...use that syntax.
[07:30] <puff> That look right?
[07:30] <Nutubuntu> Hi all - I'm planning to replace an aging disk and at the same time migrate from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu Feisty. I'd be grateful if someone could sanity check my plan at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24669/
[07:30] <ajax4> zero: Yeah, its really off-topic for this channel.
[07:30] <PirateHead> zero: try joining ##php ?
[07:30] <LokiListens> gravemind, okay.  i've got to wait for the live disk to boot.  i'm on a secondary comp right now that runs ubuntu beautifully
[07:30] <zero> PirateHead: im really trying
[07:31] <Azu1> puff: why don't you just modify /etc/fstab with the options i gave you and then restart and see how things go?
[07:31] <zero> ajax4: i know, well i wont bother you any more, thank you ajax4
[07:31] <n2diy> re-align: Well, now where we really need to know what parameters your camera talks with, otherwise we are fishing.
[07:31] <gravemind> LokiListens: alright. It's really strange that gparted isn't able to shrink your ntfs partition, as that is one of its features. To me that means that there is something probably wrong with it
[07:31] <ajax4> zero: Use that syntax I gave you....good luck :)
[07:31] <Azu1> puff: i think it should mount with write enabled
[07:31] <Azu1> no need for ntfs-config
[07:31] <zero> ajax4: i will, thanx
[07:32] <gravemind> LokiListens: wait, that's not one of its features
[07:32] <plugs> what's an SM bus?
[07:32] <LokiListens> gravemind ?
[07:32] <NortonX> is there a command that shows my graphics card supports opengl
[07:32] <NortonX> or what command is used to check your  video card version and driver version?
[07:32] <n2diy> re-align: Well, now is where we really need to know what parameters your camera talks with, otherwise we are fishing.
[07:32] <puff> Azu1: Well, I'm trying to figure out what the /dev/hdxx should be.  Does /dev/sdb1 look right?
[07:32] <horchata> so, my co-worker bought this printer I want to use with feisty, an epson offirio lp-1400
[07:32] <gravemind> LokiListens: I don't know, I just checked the 'features' section of gparted, and it says it can't do anything to ntfs, but I've DONE resizes myself
[07:33] <PirateHead> Nutubuntu: just make sure that step number 8 includes rum.
[07:33] <horchata> there is no driver for it right now, so how should i proceed?
[07:33] <re-align> n2diy, I believe you just said that...
[07:33] <gravemind> hey everyone, gparted can resize ntfs partitions, right?
[07:33] <re-align> n2diy, I'm searching the net, but not finidng anything useful...
[07:33] <Nutubuntu> PirateHead - Arrh, aye-aye.
[07:33] <n2diy> re-align: no, I omitted the"is", but you read over it, cool.
[07:33] <Azu1> ajax4: i just remembered, right-click on the top bar > add panel > disk mounter
[07:33] <CokeMan> does anyone know why how i can get multiple sessions of gnome open, one for my desktop normal user log in and one for a vncserver session?
[07:34] <Azu1> ajax4: i tried that one but dumped it later, probably didn't work ok for me
[07:34] <Azu1> but that's somethign
[07:34] <re-align> n2diy, I tend to ignore small mistakes like that when talking to ppl on the net
[07:34] <Azu1> puff: what is the drive you're trying to mount?
[07:34] <Azu1> sdb is for external drivers
[07:34] <Azu1> drives*
[07:34] <re-align> n2diy, as long as I can understand hat it is they're trying to say anyway...
[07:34] <puff> Azu1: an external LACIE drive.
[07:35] <Azu1> puff: is it the only external drive that you have connected?
[07:35] <reserved> some one woman that use Kubuntu?
[07:35] <KI4IKL> what is the name of the package for the c compiler?
[07:35] <puff> Azu1: Yeah.
[07:35] <Azu1> puff: /dev/sdb1 should be ok then
[07:35] <dekay> Hi can someone help me with the command line to install vi ?
[07:35] <re-align> KI4IKL, I think it's g++
[07:35] <Azu1> KI4IKL: gcc
[07:35] <ajax4> dekay: It should be installed by default
[07:35] <puff> Okay then... what do I need to restart?
[07:36] <tritium> dekay: it's installed by default
[07:36] <dekay> ajax4, where would it be?
[07:36] <re-align> KI4IKL, err gcc
[07:36] <Mobster> guys this is going to sound noob and dumb nut i only know of linux IRC channels can anybody tell me where a channel/ server for windows xp/office would be?
[07:36] <PirateHead> dekay: vi ought to be intalled already! Just run the command "vi" at the terminal.
[07:36] <tritium> KI4IKL: you want build-essential, really
[07:36] <KI4IKL> ahh
[07:36] <n2diy> re-align: Well, if you can't find the parameters, you'll have to fish.  Get a notebook, and start changing parameters, and note what doesn,t work, until you find what does. Use the intialize modem command to if it worked or not. Roger on the late night typos.
[07:36] <tritium> !b-e | KI4IKL
[07:36] <dekay> thanks
[07:36] <ubotu> KI4IKL: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:36] <KI4IKL> thats what I was getting.
[07:36] <ajax4> dekay: Its a command line program, so you just type vi from the command line
[07:36] <KI4IKL> Thanks :)
[07:36] <NortonX> or what command is used to check your  video card version and driver version?
[07:36] <LokiListens> gravemind, my windows partition is ntfs and at dev/sda1
[07:36] <Azu1> KI4IKL: install build-essential.. it contains gcc with other necessary packages
[07:36] <PirateHead> Mobster: try #windows
[07:36] <CokeMan> does anyone know why how i can get multiple sessions of gnome open, one for my desktop normal user log in and one for a vncserver session?
[07:36] <Mobster> kool thx
[07:36] <gravemind> LokiListens: Do a backup if possible, then fsck /dev/sda1
[07:37] <Azu1> it's ##windows
[07:37] <PirateHead> Ah. Makes sense.
[07:37] <Mobster>  #windows worked
[07:37] <PirateHead> It probably serves as a redirect.
[07:37] <Mobster> yeah
[07:37] <h4ck3r_> isso  canal portugus ??
[07:37] <tritium> !pt
[07:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:38] <chipbuddy> so i'm using gthumb to find duplicate pictures, but do i really have to do all these clicks to get rid of all the duplicates? is there a faster way to trash all these duplicates?
[07:38] <dekay> Okay, where can I install perl for ubuntu, or is there a direct command line I can use?
[07:38] <ajax4> CokeMan: You want to run the vnc session from the normal user login?
[07:38] <LokiListens> gravemind, when i do that all i get is fsck 1.40-WIP
[07:38] <PirateHead> dekay: perl also comes pre-installed with Ubuntu. You're so lucky!
[07:38] <Azu1> dekay: use synaptic
[07:38] <dekay> lol
[07:38] <re-align> n2diy, first things first, I suspect I have to tell it what my serial port is called. Currently it's set to use /dev/tty8 and I'm not sure that's the right one.
[07:38] <Azu1> lol
[07:38] <PirateHead> Or doesn't it?
[07:38] <gravemind> hmm, let me look up fsck's usage
[07:38] <PirateHead> I thought for sure it did.
[07:39] <dekay> thanks again
[07:39] <PirateHead> No problem.
[07:39] <LokiListens> thanks for all the help gravemind
[07:39] <gravemind> LokiListens: sure. are you leaving? cause I have to get some sleep too : )
[07:39] <source> umm, osrry for asking this
[07:40] <LokiListens> gravemind, i'm around, but if you need to go i'll be here tomorrow night
[07:40] <source> but does anyone know how make a MP3 song go on myspace?
[07:40] <PirateHead> chipbuddy: you could write a script that compares the checksums of images to find duplicates and deletes duplicates until only one copy remains.
[07:40] <NortonX> there a command o check my video driver version?
[07:40] <source> as an HTML code
[07:40] <PirateHead> chipbuddy: that takes a few keystrokes, but might end up saving you time in the long run.
[07:40] <gravemind> alright. I know someone here *must* know how to use fsck
[07:40] <gravemind> good night
[07:40] <Azu1> source: i think i came across a website that adds modules and codes to myspace
[07:40] <PirateHead> gravemind: man fsck?
[07:41] <dfgas> i have an ati radeon 7200, what do i need to do to get 3d on it?
[07:41] <gravemind> lol yeah
[07:41] <ajax4> !ati
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <source> yeah
[07:41] <LokiListens> PirateHead, he was helping me out.  I'm brand new to linux and the man fsck was just more confusing
[07:41] <source> by any chance do you remenber the name of it or what you seach under?
[07:41] <n2diy> re-align: yes, your right, serial port 1 is ttyS0, and port 2 is ttyS1, note the capital S, it matters.
[07:41] <Azu1> source: http://www.myflashfetish.com/myspace-mp3-players/
[07:42] <re-align> n2diy, yeah, unlike Windows, linux actualy is case sensitive...
[07:42] <CokeMan> ajax4, no, i have a box that i sometimes log into via keyboard and use it, but i want to set up a vncserver so that i can log into it and this desktop and so forth on vnc, and i wnat to do it from vncserver
[07:42] <n2diy> re-align: yepper
[07:42] <source> Thank Azul.
[07:42] <Azu1> source: anytime
[07:43] <source> Azul, thank you very much and see you around
[07:43] <re-align> n2diy, so...how do I try initing the thing now?
[07:44] <n2diy> re-align: Well, if you can't find the parameters, you'll have to fish.  Get a notebook, and start changing parameters, and note what doesn,t work, until you find what does. Use the intialize modem command see to if it worked or not. Roger on the late night typos.
[07:44] <re-align> n2diy, I believe you said that. Anyway, I found the command to init the modem.
[07:45] <puff> Azu1: Okay, so far, so good, but now it wants me to either boot into windows or use the force option:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24671/
[07:45] <ajax4> CokeMan: I have a similar setup. I run the vnc server on one of my boxes, then use vncviewer to open a window and control that box's desktop remotely.
[07:45] <n2diy> re-align: the up arrow key is a lot easier then re-typing! :)
[07:46] <MrGimly>  Falar: yeah
[07:46] <MrGimly>  Falar: (MrGimly) yeah
[07:47] <rolnxyz_> how do i make a "ls" that outputs directories only? "ls -d" doesn't work; it outputs "."
[07:47] <puff> How dangerous is this to the lacie drive?
[07:47] <dekay> How can I uninstall beryl unsupported plugins, I accidentally installed old one and I no longer have the new ones.
[07:47] <George2> I need help fixing my /bin/sh: can't access tty job control turned off - error: I have 3 hds and 1 sony cd/dvd writer - p3 800 mhz 512 ram geforce fx 5200!
[07:48] <re-align> bah...:(
[07:48] <KI4IKL> Umm...I went to install something, ti said I have to have the xtest library to install it, what is the xtest library
[07:48] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: hi
[07:48] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: (MrGimly) hi
[07:49] <PirateHead> rolnxyz_: I'm not sure, but have you read the man page?
[07:49] <Ott1> Hello everybody can someone talk me how to run in ubuntu some win. aplication?
[07:49] <PirateHead> Ott1: some Windows applications can be run in compatability mode, using Wine.
[07:49] <Azu1> puff: you didn't shutdown windows properly did you?
[07:49] <Nutubuntu> !wine
[07:49] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:49] <n2diy> re-align: the up arrow key is a lot easier then re-typing! :)
[07:49] <George2> is it that hard to fix that noone knows how to fix it?
[07:49] <n2diy> whoops
[07:49] <Ott1> ok an where can I find this Wine?
[07:49] <rolnxyz_> PirateHead: Yes, i just found the answer somewhere else. ls -d */
[07:49] <PirateHead> Ott1: Not all applications are supported. Are you wondering about certain ones in particular?
[07:50] <re-align> n2diy, I don't suppose there's a way to use a PS2 or serial port as a USB...:/
[07:50] <PirateHead> rolnxyz_: Cool.
[07:50] <Coffeegrindah> can someone help me figure out whats going ion with my apache install, It's working but it's looking like my CSS isn't being interpreted correctly
[07:50] <George2> Ott1: apt-get install wine -- i guess.
[07:50] <Ott1> exactly in Pocket Tracert supported by Cisco Systems
[07:50] <r4ge> Hey guys, Fiesty Fawn is awsome :)
[07:50] <PirateHead> Ott1: You can download Wine directly from their debian repository. There are instructions on their website, winehq.com (.org? I forget)
[07:50] <re-align> n2diy, or mybe I could try connecting to it thourgh my windows box...
[07:50] <n2diy> re-align: Bah?  USB to serial port dongles are hit or miss, never played with any of them.
[07:51] <Flannel> !anyone | Coffeegrindah
[07:51] <ubotu> Coffeegrindah: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:51] <George2> !wine
[07:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:51] <Azu1> yo, if you wanna run something on wine.. try this website > http://frankscorner.org/
[07:51] <r4ge> I am about to try a USB -> serial adapter
[07:51] <n2diy> re-align: maybe, but where would you find help for that, if you did it?
[07:51] <immibis> it is it is winehq.org
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: www.CharacterPlanet.com once u get ur comp running
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Mortalrun: (MrGimly) www.CharacterPlanet.com once u get ur comp running
[07:51] <novato_br> i can solve my problem with microphone
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Falar: ok
[07:51] <MrGimly>  Falar: (MrGimly) ok
[07:51] <mEck0> Someone got sound via toslink/optical cable to work with Intel HDA sound card? I have tried it a couple of times but can't get sound :(
[07:52] <ajax4> Coffeegrindah: More than likely its the browser you are using and not the web server that is the problem.
[07:52] <mistone> whats a good upnp client for ubuntu?
[07:52] <dekay> My beryl tell me this, yet I do no have all the unsupported effects like snow; The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request.
[07:52] <dekay> The script had an error or it did not produce any output. If there was an error, you should be able to see it in the error log.
[07:52] <dekay> woops
[07:52] <mistone> I want to stream music via upnp
[07:52] <Tehkain> Anyone know how to remove the NetworkManager Applet from the notification area?
[07:52] <dekay> beryl-plugins-unsupported is already the newest version.
[07:52] <dekay> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:52] <Coffeegrindah> ajax4, I'm not so sure, I'm running a pretty messed up setup here..
[07:52] <re-align> Hmm...wonder if I could get a CardBus card that gives me an extra USB port...
[07:53] <Coffeegrindah> ajax4, I'm running Lamp on a keychain.. I'm guessing permissions issues..
[07:53] <sudo> how can i defrag ubuntu?
[07:53] <Flannel> sudo: ext3 doesn't need defragging
[07:53] <immibis> linux doesn't need defragging
[07:53] <n2diy> sudo
[07:53] <ajax4> Coffeegrindah: What browser are you using?
[07:53] <Coffeegrindah> FF,
[07:54] <n2diy> sudo: you don't it does all by itself.
[07:54] <keev> humm... can before it said a file was fragmented
[07:54] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: What is happening?  Since, youhaven't given us any information other than it "doesnt work"
[07:54] <keev> and i had to format
[07:54] <Ott1> Thanks everybody
[07:54] <yetist> how to build deb package like gnome-panel and gnome-panel-data from gnome-panel sources?
[07:54] <immibis> sudo: what filesystem are you using?
[07:54] <PirateHead> immibis: wrong. ext3 *usually* doesn't need defragging. linux can still run on fat systems, which do need defragging.
[07:54] <keev> ext3
[07:54] <MrGimly>  Falar: b
[07:54] <MrGimly>  Falar: (MrGimly) b
[07:54] <kkathman> what is the command for the configuration editor - it isnt in Applications - System Tools as the wiki suggests
[07:54] <novato_br> but what can I do works my microphone without I have all times type "sudo artsdsp -m skype " ?
[07:54] <Elvis> I can't get ipv6 working, have anybody here tried that?
[07:55] <xenex46256> does anyone know why conky will startup when i login but then disappear after a few seconds but it will still be running?
[07:55] <immibis> PirateHead: and linux usually runs on ext3
[07:55] <Frogzoo> PirateHead: as long as you leave 5% disk free, ext3 never needs defragging
[07:55] <ajax4> kkathman: gconf-editor
[07:55] <xenex46256> and now i opened beryl and now conky is staying ontop of windows
[07:55] <zeeeee> fsckin dell
[07:55] <Azu1> ext3 is smart.. doesn't divide your file into smaller parts like windows does.. so you don't need to join those parts together in one place on the hard drive every weekend
[07:55] <r4ge> whats the msn client of choice?
[07:55] <Azu1> na mean?
[07:55] <yetist> I use dh_make, but it only can build gnome-panel package, not gnome-panel-data package.
[07:55] <keev> Is there a way to change your Network name without formatting?
[07:55] <kkathman> thanks ajax4
[07:55] <zeeeee> dell, man...they don't even configure their ubuntu computers correctly!
[07:55] <ajax4> kkathman: np
[07:55] <immibis> r4ge: who are you asking?
[07:55] <r4ge> the channel.
[07:55] <Azu1> r4ge: i use gaim
[07:56] <Coffeegrindah> flannel, Fresh LAMP install Running a USB Thumbstick,  Running MediaWiki,  - Wiki Works fine, but I can't see the page formatting properly. Tables and colors are off..
[07:56] <ajax4> zeeeee: Well, at least they're offering it so it's a start :)
[07:56] <zeeeee> my dad just got a dell laptop from them and its wireless is not working
[07:56] <immibis> r4ge: i use windows live messenger in windows xp and gaim in linux
[07:56] <PirateHead> zeeeee: what problem are you having? I know they use a lot of partitions, but it doesn't really hurt.
[07:56] <Azu1> i don't like dell
[07:56] <zeeeee> neither was the x resolution - that took me a while to fix
[07:56] <zeeeee> i can't really figure out the wireless though
[07:56] <zeeeee> cat /proc/net/wireless lists eth1
[07:56] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: What happens when you browse to the CSS file?  do you get text? download prompt? what?  What's the mimetype being served?
[07:56] <zeeeee> but iwconfig eth1 says it has no wireless extensions
[07:56] <zeeeee> lsmod shows ipw
[07:57] <Flannel> !enter | zeeeee
[07:57] <ubotu> zeeeee: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:57] <zeeeee> :) sorry
[07:57] <Elvis> ipv6? is there anybody who got it working?
[07:57] <Nutubuntu> keev - it's going to depend on your fs but ext3 does not usually need to be defragged. It calculates disk space on the fly so that files can be written contiguously to the disk, and it'll pick up fragmented files and rewrite them contiguously if they do occur -- if I remember right
[07:57] <n2diy> re-align: I have to sign, it is 0155 hours here, good luck, and keep notes, so you don't repeat your experments. 73
[07:57] <Azu1> i still don't know what ipv6 is
[07:57] <ajax4> !ipv6
[07:57] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:57] <immibis> Axu1: the next version of ip
[07:57] <zeeeee> cat /proc/net/wireless lists eth1, and lsmod shows ipw, but iwconfig eth1 says no wireless extensions. any ideas?
[07:57] <r4ge> Internet Protocol Version 6. ;)
[07:58] <keev> thank you Nutubuntu!
[07:58] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel, It's permissions.. Unless you're currently or have run Off a thumbstick, I'm sure you haven't run into this..
[07:58] <keev> Is there a way to change your Network name without formatting?
[07:58] <Azu1> what's so special about it
[07:58] <Elvis> i'm not trying to disable, im trying to use it...
[07:58] <Azu1> ad what's gonna change?
[07:58] <Elvis> to contect to a relay and get it working
[07:58] <r4ge> zeeeee: what does dmesg tell you?
[07:58] <re-align> n2diy, later, thanks
[07:58] <Nutubuntu> Azu1 -  the big deal about IPv6 is a much larger address space
[07:58] <r4ge> error inserting firmware or something similar?
[07:58] <re-align> I think I'll just get a USB card for the cardbus slot
[07:58] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: Like I asked, what happens when you browse to the css file via browser?
[07:59] <n2diy> re-align: I hang out here, so give a shout later, 73.
[07:59] <zeeeee> r4ge, one moment, let me get to that computer again
[08:01] <Elvis> I've read some howtos, but I cant ping6 any address
[08:01] <scales11> hello all, i was wondering how i could make my system fonts, like the date, and windows, look better?
[08:01] <ajax4> scales11: System > Preferences > Font
[08:01] <zeeeee> ajax4, i'm not sure it's a good idea to give customers improperly set up systems. it's going to leave a bad first impression; those impressions last.
[08:01] <zeeeee> (for those who would be getting linux for the first time)
[08:01] <Elvis> ajax4: have you used ipv6?
[08:01] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: blank page, no download. no text.
[08:01] <ajax4> zeeeee: I agree...I was being facetious earlier. But it's Dell afterall so it's to be expected :)
[08:01] <ajax4> Elvis: Nah, I disable it.
[08:01] <Elvis> ok
[08:01] <ajax4> Elvis: Why do you need to use IPv6?
[08:01] <Elvis> I did this too...but now I'm needing to use it...
[08:01] <Azu1> what is the best cms is your opinion?
[08:01] <Elvis> A university project
[08:01] <mikedoty> Does anyone happen to know the default cache directory for Opera in ubuntu?
[08:01] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: error? What headers are you getting?  If it's a permission thing, you'd get an error document.
[08:01] <Coffeegrindah> I get nothing.. a blank window.
[08:02] <Elvis> actually, I just need to conect and prrof that I'm using ipv6 through a tunnel
[08:02] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  so you're trying to ping6 a remote host somewhere?
[08:02] <ajax4> Elvis: Ahhh....sorry, wish I could help.
[08:02] <Elvis> yes, exactly
[08:03] <Elvis> ajax4, no problem, thanks
[08:03] <sivaji> my system cant automatically detect floppy drive am i suppose to mount maually every time
[08:03] <Nutubuntu> I'm going on pretty hazy memory here ... but Elvis, have you verified that the remote host you're trying to ping6 has configured IPv6?
[08:03] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: Just because you don't see anything doesn't mean you aren't being sent anything.  Pastebin the output of 'wget css-url' please.
[08:03] <Elvis> yes, for sure...
[08:03] <iain_dal1on> How do I automatically load a kernel module at boot?
[08:04] <Elvis> I'm trying that websites that verify if you are connected using ipv4 or ipv6 and show your address
[08:04] <ajax4> iain_dal1on: put the name of the module in: /etc/modules
[08:04] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  and that you can ping the host at its IPv4 addy? IOW, you know for sure that you have a route to the host?
[08:04] <mikedoty> Do any of y'all use Opera?
[08:04] <iain_dal1on> ajax4: thx
[08:04] <Nutubuntu> OIC
[08:04] <mert> s.a
[08:04] <ajax4> iain_dal1on: np
[08:04] <Flannel> mikedoty: I imagine opera cache is in ~/.opera/ (some file in there)
[08:05] <mert> aranzda trk yoqmu a.q ?
[08:05] <sivaji> ajax4 how to enable automount for floppy drive
[08:05] <Azu1> i don't use opera, it looks ugly
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mikedoty> Oh, .opera, forgot that dot thing.  Thanks Flannel
[08:05] <Elvis> in teory....cause' i'm trying to connect throuth a relay
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <ajax4> sivaji: Don't know, never used floppies on my Ubuntu.
[08:05] <mert> a.q
[08:05] <Flannel> !ops
[08:05] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:05] <mert> piler
[08:05] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: Cannot write to `main.css' (Permission denied).
[08:06] <Elvis> and because I'm trying to ping the website I followed the tutorial
[08:06] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: cd to your homedi, then do it again
[08:06] <Elvis> Nubuntu, did you tried ipv6?
[08:07] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  just for a course; never used IPv6 in a real-world application
[08:07] <Elvis> it looks simple, all the cmds worked, but i couldn't see it working
[08:07] <Elvis> Nubuntu, ok, but could you connect?
[08:08] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24672/
[08:08] <Nutubuntu> Elvis - yes, built a small IPv6 LAN and showed that it was working natively and in IP4 tunnel
[08:09] <Elvis> so, if you used the tunnel you could connect to internet, right?
[08:09] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: and you've verified that the file exists locally?  /var/www/wiki/skins/monobook/main.css?
[08:09] <Coffeegrindah> yup..
[08:09] <Nutubuntu> Elvis - It's been several years ... I *think* we did, not sure any more though
[08:09] <Elvis> ok
[08:10] <Elvis> I searched for information in foruns, but all I've found was how to disable it...rs
[08:10] <Elvis> lol
[08:10] <zeeeee> mikedoty, yes
[08:10] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: and what are the permissions on the local file?
[08:11] <scales11> i am trying ti fix the fonts in my terminal, the look bad and overlap.  i can edit them but they dont seem to be any better. which fonts do you all use?
[08:11] <Nutubuntu> Every year for awhile now has been the year *before* "the year of IPv6" ... but the year of IPv6 never seems to come :/
[08:11] <Elvis> it's true...
[08:11] <zeeeee> r4ge, i fixed it - apparently, i had to disable that wireless toggle button functionality in the bios, or else the wireless device would always be off. that's totally screwed up.
[08:12] <Elvis> actually, with NAT being so good I don't think "the ipv6 year" is coming
[08:12] <Nutubuntu> It must be because IPv4 subnetting is so much fun ;p
[08:12] <Flannel> !away > Noldoaran
[08:12] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: set to 501
[08:12] <ajax4> scales11: Have you tried a different terminal program?
[08:13] <Coffeegrindah> Which is what I'm looking into now
[08:13] <Flannel> Coffeegrindah: 501?  Well, there's your problem.  Should be 644
[08:13] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: ipv6 they're thinking might have scalability problems
[08:13] <keev> How can i write to a mounted disk? (I have WinXP Dual Boot)
[08:13] <Elvis> nutubuntu, do you know if is there any problem about the edgy and ipv6??
[08:14] <ajax4> keev: You want to copy something to your Windows partition?
[08:14] <Frogzoo> Elvis: ipv6 on edgy will cause your browsing to be slow
[08:14] <keev> ajax4, yes!
[08:14] <Frogzoo> Elvis: you want to disable it
[08:14] <scales11> ajax4: no, i didnt know there were any...suggestions?
[08:14] <Nutubuntu> Frogzoo - IP6? um ... IPv6 has a 2^128 wide address space. It should scale okay ... IIRC that's enough to assign every grain of sand on Earth its own addy
[08:14] <keev> it says /media/disk is read only
[08:14] <Nutubuntu> Elvis -  no idea about IPv6 and Edgy
[08:14] <Azu1> keev: install ntfs-config
[08:14] <ajax4> scales11: There are tons of them. Look in the synaptic repository.
[08:14] <Elvis> no, I do not want to disable it, actually, I want to use it!!!
[08:15] <keev> ok
[08:15] <scales11> k
[08:15] <Frogzoo> Nutubuntu: yes I know about 128 bit addresses, the scalability issues that worry them are in the protocol itself
[08:15] <Elvis> Frogzoo: have you tried to get it working and connect through ipv6?
[08:15] <pukeko> hardware raid vs software raid ... i have a aic7860 scsi card in a poweredge 2300, should i use the card for raid management or use mdadm to handle it ?  the box has 512RAM and is dual 333
[08:15] <Nutubuntu> Frogzoo - okay, I see. Listen, I think we're way OT, so let's drop the theory ...
[08:15] <Lappy> ata1.00: exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[08:16] <mikedoty> Thanks again for the reminder, Flannel.  cache was right where ya said :)
[08:16] <George2> this is the error I get when i go to (non-quiet mode)
[08:16] <puff> Azu1: I didn't shut down windows at all.
[08:16] <Nutubuntu> pukeko - I was just reading about hw vs. sw RAID ... seems to me ppl advocate sw RAID for the sake of not depending on a proprietary hw solution
[08:16] <scales11> ok what terminals do you all use?
[08:17] <Coffeegrindah> Flannel: Looking into it, I'll be back. The problem with Running live from a flash drive is that I'm not sure if any of these permissions will stick once i reboot.. (though a simple shell script will fix that)
[08:17] <Azu1> puff: go back to windows, shut it down properly, then boot to linux and try mounting it
[08:17] <keev> Azul! Thank you!
[08:17] <Azu1> keev: welcome
[08:18] <ajax4> scales11: xterm, wterm, aterm, eterm....tons of options.
[08:19] <scales11> ajax4: but which do you use?
[08:19] <Azu1> kosole
[08:19] <Azu1> quake consule
[08:19] <ticnailer69> is anyone familiar with beryl?
[08:19] <Azu1> ticnailer69: me, a little
[08:19] <ajax4> scales11: gnome-terminal, no problems with it.
[08:19] <ticnailer69> azul
[08:20] <Flannel> ticnailer69: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[08:20] <ticnailer69> I have an error when I try to run beryl from the command line
[08:21] <ticnailer69> says: extention "X-Free-DRI" missing on display
[08:21] <nzr> hey i have a quick question.
[08:21] <ticnailer69> what do u think?
[08:21] <ajax4> !ask | nzr
[08:21] <ubotu> nzr: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:21] <Azu1> are you able to run it from Applications > System Tools?
[08:21] <ticnailer69> ummmm
[08:22] <ticnailer69> one min
[08:22] <Billy> hello?
[08:22] <nzr> i'm abount to put ubuntu on my desktop, i already have windows xp on it... do i need to use like.. partition magic to make a partition so i dont have to format my xp? or can i create a partition with the ubuntu live cd, without formatting my existing partiton
[08:22] <ticnailer69> no
[08:22] <Azu1> nzr: you can
[08:22] <LordLimeca1> is there anything that might cause mapped keys to not register properly?
[08:22] <nzr> i can create a partition w/o destroying data?
[08:22] <ajax4> nzr: If you have free space in your windows partition, it will shrink that partition and create a separate linux partition for you.
[08:22] <Azu1> ticnailer69: i don't know much about troubleshooting.. try #ubuntu-effects
[08:22] <ticnailer69> I try to pick the beryl option but I think the program is crashing and sending me back to default
[08:23] <nzr> thank you so much
[08:23] <nzr> that saves me a lot of time.
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> nzr - any time you mess with partitioning, back up your data first.
[08:23] <ajax4> nzr: Yep, its pretty nifty :)
[08:23] <nzr> i've already backed up everything important :)
[08:23] <LordLimeca1> im sort of trying to figure out why the keypress doesnt show up in xev, but yet works in the default ubuntu media player
[08:23] <nzr> ttyl y'all!
[08:23] <ticnailer69> #xubuntu-effects
[08:23] <Nutubuntu> nzr - then you're good to go :)
[08:23] <ticnailer69> ok
[08:23] <Azu1> no, #ubuntu-effects
[08:24] <ticnailer69> k
[08:24] <puff> Azu1: I wasnt' using it with windows, somebody else was using it to back up some files from a winbox.  It's a portable drive;  are they supposed to shut the winbox down entirely to remove it, or is there some simpler method?
[08:25] <killaz> In the dmesg I see this warning: [17180201.108000]  tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set, how can I set the tuner? I have a PVR-150
[08:26] <killaz> somewhere they say that I need to pathc my kernel for this message "tuner type not set" to leave
[08:26] <Sir-Integra> Hello, i've had ubuntu installed for a few weeks now,  and i've had no issues at all with my wireless when i've been at home. I'm at my friends house using his, 3 of us all in the same room, internet is fine for the rest, but for me i'm having some issues with connectivity.
[08:26] <Sir-Integra> Such as major loss of connectivity for about 2 minutes each time.
[08:26] <Sir-Integra> as i said, i've never had these issues at home, but my router is different.
[08:27] <Azu1> puff: i think they unplugged it without doing "safely remove device"
[08:27] <Sir-Integra> works perfectly on windows, but for some reason, not on ubuntu, anyone have any ideas?
[08:27] <Azu1> puff: or shutdown windows with the power button
[08:27] <Azu1> puff: it has to be unmounted correctly from windows
[08:27] <Sir-Integra> p.s sorry for the long essay, just making it more clear.
[08:27] <ticnailer69_> #ubuntu-effects? where would I enter that?
[08:27] <George2> !casper
[08:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about casper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <Sir-Integra>  type /join #ubuntu-effects
[08:28] <Azu1> puff: if you want you can try ntfs-fix or something.. the one it suggest you use.. but i haven't tried that
[08:28] <Azu1> so you're on your own
[08:28] <Azu1> puff: just plug it into a windows machine and do a safely remove hardware thang
[08:28] <ticnailer69_> ok
[08:28] <varka> killaz: try to determinde the kernelmodule responsible for the PVR and then add it with the option tuner=<number> to /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:28] <ticnailer69_> forget it,LOL
[08:28] <ticnailer69_> pz
[08:30] <Sir-Integra> anyone have any insight on what would be causing my connectivity issues? as i said, works perfectly on windows.
[08:30] <springlarry> how to update to 7.10,!!!!
[08:30] <Sir-Integra> using a netgear router.
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> springlarry: you probably dont want to
[08:30] <springlarry> how to update to 7.10,!!!!
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> springlarry: dont repeat yourself please
[08:30] <crdlb> springlarry, if you don't know how, it's not a good idea
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> and 7.10 is heavily in beta (or alpha)
[08:30] <LordLimeca1> or somethin
[08:31] <Hobbsee> LordLimeca1: alpha
[08:31] <LordLimeca1> its due for release in october (november?)
[08:31] <Q_Continuum> should be in a rapidly-changing state, in any case.
[08:31] <springlarry> o,thanks,but alpha is notaproblem
[08:31] <LordLimeca1> springlarry: ....is there some specific reason you want to upgrade?
[08:32] <LordLimeca1> im sure very few new features have even been added or are functional
[08:32] <crdlb> springlarry, anyway the right channel for that is #ubuntu+1
[08:32] <crdlb> but I really don't recommend it unless you know what you're doing
[08:32] <springlarry> thanks. anyway.
[08:32] <Hobbsee> springlarry: if you have to ask, you clearly dont know much about dpkg and such.  which you will need, in order to fix gutsy when it breaks.
[08:32] <killaz> varka: so just add option tuner=50 to /etc/modprobe.d/options ?
[08:33] <LordLimeca1> anyone have any idea as to why certain keys are not performing the proper command (mapped with gconf)?
[08:33] <varka> killaz: i see, you have to put the options into /etc/modprobe.d/ivtv
[08:33] <varka> killaz: there are many hints for this adapter in the net, so google for more options to be set, but this should be the place to put them
[08:34] <varka> killaz: if the tunernumber doesnt work alone
[08:34] <bain> morning
[08:34] <ajax4> gtg later guys
[08:35] <puff> Azu1: Do I need to do anything aside from "umount /media/LACIE" to safely unmount it from the linux box?
[08:37] <Lekrem> i have a question, i got a game called nexuiz from the internet with 2 scripts: nexuiz-linux-glx.sh and nexuiz-linux-sdl.sh what are the difference between the two?
one uses glx the other sdl
[08:38] <lastkey0> Hello every one! I need help for mounting my USB drive
[08:38] <Lekrem> ismod: sorry for my ignorance but what r glx and sdl?
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> theyre graphics libraries
[08:40] <LordLimeca1> sort of like directx
 3d drivers for video cards some like nividia use glx etc
[08:40] <Azu1> puff: that's all you need to do.. i was telling you to unmount it properly from windows, not linux
[08:40] <Lekrem> insmod: and sdl?
[08:41] <lastkey0>  Hello every one! I need help for mounting my USB drive
 i think matrix and such -- not sure -- nvidia intel guy lol
[08:41] <Azu1> puff: the problem is you can't mount it with write support, because it was not mounted properly from windows.. plug it to a windows machine, unmount it properly then mount it on linux
[08:41] <Azu1> you dig?
[08:41] <kimmey> Do any know how to make it NOT only read-only?
[08:41] <kimmey> (The usb-drive)
man chmod
[08:42] <kimmey> I dont have the permissions to do it.. even if im root
[08:42] <kimmey> So im kinda stuck right now
[08:43] <kimmey> Any way to turn off automount and do it manually so I can set the mount options?
 fstab
[08:44] <kimmey> Ye.. I know that .. but now how to turn off automount for drives
[08:44] <kimmey> do you know it?:)
 if you edit the entry in fstab it overrides it
[08:45] <puff> Azu1: Yeah, I dig... just don't want to make any assumptions at this point :-).
[08:45] <d3m0> anyone in here on a dv9000t and have their mic working properly?
[08:45] <kimmey> Ah
[08:45] <kimmey> I must try that later :)
[08:45] <kimmey> Thanks for the tip
[08:45] <insmod> :)
[08:45] <Azu1> puff: coo
[08:45] <lastkey0> insmod: My automount used to work but now when I connect my usb drive it gives error " You are not privilliged to mount"
[08:46] <kimmey> Btw the filesystem on the drive is NTFS, so I should mount it with ntfs-3g .. that sounds right?
[08:46] <kimmey> or else if I could make all automounts on drives with ntfs to ntfs-3g
edit /etc/group
[08:46] <Sir-Integ> sigh
[08:46] <Sir-Integ> timed out again
[08:47] <Azu1> kimmey: you're thinking right
[08:47] <Sir-Integ> is there anyway to get my wireless card running faster than 11mbps?
[08:47] <Sir-Integ> i think that's what is causing my internet to have huge lag spikes.
[08:47] <Sir-Integ> since on windows, it runs perfect.
[08:47] <kraut> moin
[08:47] <lastkey0> insmod: I have opened the file, now what to edit. can you please guide me
[08:47] <LordLimeca1> is there some reason why my keyboard shortcuts for amarok dont work if the key is mapped in gnome-keybindings or gconf?
[08:47] <LordLimeca1> but they do if i unmap them everywhere else?
 iwconfig -- or edit /etc/network/iterfaces
[08:48] <LordLimeca1> more imporantly, is there some way for my keyboard shortcuts to work for both amarok (a kde app) and the default gnome player as well
[08:48] <squeegee> I've looked and looked, but I've not been able to find an answer to this: can gnome on Ubuntu use viewports that support different wallpapers on each side of the cube (when I run beryl)?
[08:48] <Sir-Integ>  Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=19 dBm
[08:49] <Sir-Integ> :/
[08:49] <kimmey> Good to hear  Azu1 , hehe
[08:49] <Sir-Integ> that's bad.
[08:49] <Sir-Integ> sigh
 lol gnome and kde don't play well together
[08:49] <LordLimeca1> -_-
[08:49] <Azu1> squeegee: try #ubuntu-effects
[08:49] <LordLimeca1> but amarok is sexy -_-
[08:49] <Lekrem> help please i have a repo file and i have no idea how to install it
[08:49] <LordLimeca1> cant gnome make an exception?
[08:49] <squeegee> azul, thx
[08:49] <Azu1> np
[08:49] <Azu1> LordLimeca1: i love amarok too.. too bad it's kde
[08:50] <Lekrem> squeegee: or u cud try beryl
[08:50] <Lekrem> help anyone?
[08:50] <Sir-Integ> insmod, how would i go about highering the speed rate?
[08:50] <squeegee> lekrem: thanks
[08:50] <Sir-Integ> i'm new to ubuntu/linux.
[08:50] <LordLimeca1> Azu1: would i be correct in assuming that if it had been created as a gnome app, then it would automatically work with the gnome-keybindings?
[08:51] <Sir-Integ> but for some reason, i keep getting bad disconnects and packet loss, but my windows machine runs perfect :/
[08:51] <Lekrem> anyone?
[08:51] <Sir-Integ> and i'm basically sitting next to the router.
[08:51] <Azu1> LordLimeca1: i'm not sure but i don't think so
[08:52] <LordLimeca1> Sir-Integ: where are you getting the packet drops?
man iwconfig
[08:52] <Lekrem> dudes?
[08:52] <LordLimeca1> yea?
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> I'm not sure, it's everywhere.
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> i visit a site
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> boom, it drops, or i go on irc, it drops.
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> but my windows machines are running perfect, no issues at all.
[08:52] <Sir-Integ> and they're all using wireless too.
[08:52] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: i have a repo file and i have no idea how to install it
[08:53] <LordLimeca1> Lekrem: you have a .deb file?
[08:53] <LordLimeca1> dblclick
[08:53] <linnuxxy> I get alot of this type of warnings when I try to apt-get anything dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xfce4-appfinder' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[08:53] <linnuxxy> how can i fix it
[08:53] <linnuxxy> i had a problem in the file system this morning
[08:54] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: its a .repo file and it opens with gedit when i dble-click it
[08:54] <LordLimeca1> o.0 never seen one....whats in it
[08:54] <LordLimeca1> !paste it
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <LordLimeca1> !paste
[08:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:54] <Sir-Integ>  Link Quality=43/100  Signal level=-60 dBm  Noise level=-70 dBm
[08:55] <Sir-Integ> not sure if that's bad or good.
[08:55] <barata> guys, can I delete synaptic cache? where is it?
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> Sir-Integ: youre using wireless?
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> o.0
[08:55] <barata> is it in /var/cache?
[08:55] <Sir-Integ> Yes.
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> ah-hah sort of
[08:55] <LordLimeca1> cant hardwire?
[08:55] <barata> are you replying to me SiliconViper
[08:55] <barata> Sir-Integ,
[08:56] <linnuxxy> I get alot of this type of warnings when I try to apt-get anything                  dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `xfce4-appfinder' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[08:56] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24674/
[08:57] <killaz> varka:  thnx I jupst added the options ivtv tune=50 to the /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> no, i can't, it's not my house.
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> but i have a windows laptop right next to me
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> working pefect.
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> so i'm assuming it's down to ubuntu :/
[08:57] <Sir-Integ> linnuxxy,  try sudo apt-get  autoclean
[08:57] <killaz> and it's working
[08:57] <varka> killaz: fine, seems to be interchangeable
[08:59] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24674/
[08:59] <KI4IKL> can anyone offer some help in installing synergy?
[09:00] <Sir-Integ> doesn't apt-get install synergy work?
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys Im a little worried here when I typed "sensors" in to a terminal I got the following out put k8temp-pci-00c3
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Adapter: PCI adapter
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Core0 Temp:
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE>              +70C
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Core1 Temp:
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE>              +70C
[09:01] <Lekrem> !paste
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone] 
[09:01] <varka> Paddy_EIRE: a bit too cold, isnt it?
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone here help me?
[09:01] <Sir-Integ> what's your issue?
[09:02] <Paddy_EIRE> look up ^^^
[09:03] <LordLimeca1> back, lekrem
[09:03] <LordLimeca1> one sec
[09:04] <LordLimeca1> i dont think thats for you
[09:04] <Sir-Integ> you just pasted temps, you never said what your issue was.
[09:04] <LordLimeca1> Lekrem: where did you get that file?
[09:05] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: http://pidgin.im/pidgin/download/
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> ah
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> but youre using ubuntu, correct
[09:05] <Lekrem> yup
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> thats for fedora
[09:05] <puff> Hm, genisoimage: Directories too deep for 'foo/branches/foo1/docs/sitemockup/assets/Fireworks/CVS' (7) max is 6. :-( write failed: Input/output error
[09:05] <LordLimeca1> uses rpms, not .debs
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> one sec, ill point you to the pidgin files :)
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> its not in our repos yet
[09:06] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1 there are no packages
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> i just got it going
[09:06] <puff> Short of gzipping it, which I'd rather not because I'd like to be able to just browse the DVD, is there any workaround for this?
[09:06] <LordLimeca1> yea, there are, but not on that site
[09:06] <FOXONFIRE> hello everyone
[09:08] <LordLimeca1> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html#more-203
[09:08] <LordLimeca1> bam
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> Im very worried about this laptop, its brand new... when I typed "sensors" into a terminal I got "Core0 Temp: +70 degrees!!  now this has me very worried
[09:09] <knoppix__> hat
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: i get more disturbing numbers
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> i wouldnt worry bout it
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> apparently, my processor is on fire as we speak
[09:09] <LordLimeca1> i should probably put that out :)
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, oh, when should I start getting worried
[09:09] <fdoving> Paddy_EIRE: mine is 67.
[09:09] <Paddy_EIRE> lol
[09:09] <KI4IKL> "checking for c++ compiler warning flags... -Wall -Wno-unknown-pragmas | checking for C++ compiler warning are errors flags... -Werror"     <<<I got that when ./configure on synergy
[09:10] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: when you confirm that its configured correctly, and that it is actually giving you the proper numbers :)
[09:10] <fdoving> KI4IKL: get the build-essential package
[09:10] <zero> there is any way to run a windows application on ubuntu like dreamweaver?
[09:10] <KI4IKL> I have it.
[09:10] <LordLimeca1> THEN you can be concerned
[09:10] <CheshireViking> !wine | zero
[09:10] <ubotu> zero: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:10] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, why assume otherwise
[09:10] <KI4IKL> fdoving, I do have build essentials
[09:10] <FOXONFIRE> I have a question hopefully someone knows this:how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III
[09:10] <beardbar> is there a way to install a video driver without going the xwindows configurator?
[09:11] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: because it doesnt really work at all with mine, one of the sensors reads 0 and the other reads like 104C
[09:11] <LordLimeca1> wait, maybe it was 132
[09:11] <killjoy> If I installed an application by installing it's .deb file with the package installer, and then a new version comes out, can I simply install the new .deb over the old installed app?  Will it do the right thing, or do I need to remove the old version first?
[09:11] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: 404
[09:11] <LordLimeca1> regardless, its totally off
[09:11] <KI4IKL> fdoving, I already have build essential
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> o.0 maybe it was lmsensors
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> sensors seems to be ok here....
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, may not be the case with me! I dont want ubuntu breaking my laptop!! no amount of free is worth that
[09:12] <fdoving> KI4IKL: can you paste the complete error to a pastebin?
[09:12] <bonii> Today since morning whenever I am surfing a site on firefox the system hangs and CPU usage goes to 100%. What may be the problem?
[09:12] <atomiku> How can I burn my files to a CD in ubuntu?
[09:12] <fdoving> !pastebin > ki4ikl
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: do you have windows installed?
[09:12] <Sir-Integ> !pastebin | ki4ikl
[09:12] <KI4IKL> I typed ./configure, everythign else was okay, that was the only error part
[09:12] <ubotu> ki4ikl: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:12] <LordLimeca1> if so, id see if you can run speedfan in windows and compare the temps there
[09:12] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, I dual boot vista
[09:12] <fdoving> KI4IKL: it checks for error flags. it's not an error unless it fails.
[09:13] <LordLimeca1> alright, go ahead and run speedfan in vista and check the temps
[09:13] <KI4IKL> Found it.
[09:13] <LordLimeca1> or some other temp monitor
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, but that is irrelevant as ubuntu would not be running when I check in win
[09:13] <bonii> When I start Firefox there is no problem but when I put in a site name the system hangs and Firefox stops responding though the page opens up. Please help. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.4
[09:13] <beardbar> ubuntu detected the generic video card, i need to install a specific driver for my VIA chrome9 video card, anyone know where i can look for one and install it?
[09:13] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: it would let you see if windows runs  @ the same temp, or if its something that needs to be troubleshot
[09:13] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, oh I get you
[09:14] <killjoy> If I installed an application by installing it's .deb file with the package installer, and then a new version comes out, can I simply install the new .deb over the old installed app?  Will it do the right thing, or do I need to remove the old version first?
[09:14] <LordLimeca1> if its the same temp in windows, then you may have a bios configuration issue, or a hardware issue
[09:14] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, rather worrying, maybe my bios will let me set a shutdown temp
[09:14] <agentnoob> killjoy: it will replace the old one
[09:14] <agentnoob> killjoy: unless you specify otherwise
[09:15] <puff> Azu1: Drat... lacie drive doesn't show up when I plug into the windows box.
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> Paddy_EIRE: i would ALWAYS set one, though i dont think theres too much reason to worry....
[09:15] <killjoy> agentnoob: great thanks
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> AFAIK, all modern processors will not burn up if you remove their fan/heatsink--theyll just slow down
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> i wouldnt try it.....cause i could be wrong
[09:15] <agentnoob> LordLimecal: what is his temp?
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> but im pretty sure
[09:15] <cafuego> You are
[09:15] <Paddy_EIRE> LordLimeca1, ok, I just love this laptop and would buy another of the same if possible
[09:15] <LordLimeca1> agentnoob: sensors reports 70c
[09:15] <Azu1> puff: you might have a problem with the lacie drive then.. or the lacie driver on windows
[09:15] <agentnoob> LordLimecal: oh I'm normally just under 60C myself
[09:15] <cafuego> LordLimeca1: The mobo sensors will probably kill the system,
[09:15] <Azu1> puff: btw, wtf is a lacie drive?
[09:16] <cafuego> LordLimeca1: but they won't slow the box down
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> cafuego: im referring to the actual on-cpu sensors
[09:16] <puff> Azu1: Ah... hm, might be that particular lacie drive.  I plugged in another one and it popped up.
[09:16] <agentnoob> LordLimecal: bet if i gamed a while and even attempted to use full ram I could reach 80 C easily
[09:16] <kanzie> Im having problem configuring dual-head on my Feasty-machine with ATI-board. Can anyone assist me?
[09:16] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, try playing a video from file and running beryl at the same time then check
[09:16] <cafuego> agentnoob: that's insane, what sort of cpu is that?
[09:16] <KI4IKL> Is there any alternative to synergy?
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> the system simply slowed down to 1fps
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> instead of catchin fire
[09:16] <LordLimeca1> resumed working once heatsink was replaced
[09:17] <atomiku> How can I get to the CD/DVD creator? I dont have gnome-panel
[09:17] <puff> Azu1: http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10651
[09:17] <onions> any body using anjuta for wxwidget program
[09:17] <KI4IKL> posted, fdoving ...paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24675
[09:17] <cafuego> LordLimeca1: they *could* run without active cooling at least; today's system can't.
[09:17] <puff> Azu1: In a nutshell, portable USB drive whose case was designed by Porsche.
[09:17] <agentnoob> cafuego: turion 64, its got a shitty plastic keyboard too one button already melted and snapped had to replace it
[09:17] <Azu1> puff: uggg
[09:17] <Azu1> puff: i had bad history with those external hard drives
[09:17] <Paddy_EIRE> cafuego, would love to see a water cooled laptop
[09:18] <agentnoob> cafuego: besides that, bios bug error, and facts if I do ctrl alt f1 most the screen is blurred or cut off. It runs fine
[09:18] <LordLimeca1> Cafuego: not saying that the system would do anything, but im 95% positive if you did it with your system, no damage would actually occur
[09:18] <fdoving> KI4IKL: that's a command, not an error.
[09:18] <Azu1> puff: me and my friends.. they always fail.. get a flash drive instead
[09:18] <onions> any body using anjuta for wxWidget program ?
[09:18] <LordLimeca1> cafuego: and not because of mobo shutoff
[09:18] <KI4IKL> oh...but it does that over and over and over
[09:18] <LordLimeca1> but again, dont attempt
[09:18] <KI4IKL> make
[09:18] <agentnoob> onions: I sometimes toy with anjuta but haven't gotten into wxWidget
[09:18] <puff> Azu1: Gotta 250GB flash drive?
[09:18] <KI4IKL> argh, wrong keyboard
[09:18] <Sir-Integ> i have a core duo, i run beryl and video files, works perfect.
[09:18] <KI4IKL> fdoving, it does that over and over and over and over.
[09:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Sir-Integ, Im using an AMD Turion 64 but running 32bit feisty
[09:19] <fdoving> KI4IKL: yep, it's copiling. it's correct, when it stops it's finished.
[09:19] <zero> !anjuta | zero
[09:19] <onions> then what tool are you using for window-style program ?
[09:19] <Azu1> puff: now?? i got a maxtor 300GB drive.. but it's big and not mobile
[09:19] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: me too
[09:19] <Sir-Integ> I'm using 32bit too, although mines a better processor, so i can't say much :/
[09:19] <Azu1> puff: mechanical memory is not as reliable as electronic memory
[09:19] <zero> mm dont work in that way
[09:19] <puff> Azu1: Yeah, mainly I'm using them as a portable backup device.
[09:19] <zero> !anjuta
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anjuta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: I was using amd64 but tried installing savage and a few 32 bit dependencies and whole system died on reboot
[09:19] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, it does wizz along though :D
[09:20] <KI4IKL> thanks, fdov
[09:20] <Azu1> puff: if you're gonna still use those.. be SUPER careful they don't move while you are accessing them
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, savage?
[09:20] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: yeah its a nice rts/fps game for linux
[09:20] <tondar> hey all
[09:20] <puff> Azu1: Where's the "safeuly unmount" option?  It doesn't show up when I right-click on it in My Computer.
[09:20] <kanzie> Im having problem configuring dual-head on my Feasty-machine with ATI-board. Can anyone assist me?
[09:20] <tondar> does vmware support 3d acc ?
[09:20] <LordLimeca1> cafuego: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/104
[09:20] <Paddy_EIRE> !savage | Paddy_EIRE
[09:20] <LordLimeca1> newer athalons should have it too
[09:20] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: its workin, thx
[09:20] <tondar> I want to have beryl inside my vm
[09:20] <Azu1> puff: look in the task bar.. there is a little disk icon with a green arrow
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> Lekrem:  :D the icon sucks tho :(
[09:21] <magnetron> !info savage > Paddy_EIRE
[09:21] <Azu1> left-click and choose safely remove hardware
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> in a few weeks it should be added to repos, i hope
[09:21] <Lekrem> icon?
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> the icon in the gnome menu
[09:21] <LordLimeca1> its blank for pidgin
[09:21] <kenthomson> QUESTION: whenever i connect my mp3 (UMS) player to the USB port it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO (it somehow got setup like that). Now i have deleted that particular entry in Amarok>Devices, but still whenever i plug it in it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO. How do i stop this from happening? Let's say i want it to mount at /mnt/usb, how do i stop this automatic mounting from happening and edit it to configure a different m
[09:21] <kenthomson> ount point?
[09:21] <Lekrem> u cud probaly change it
[09:21] <Azu1> pidgin.. i hate that name
[09:22] <Lekrem> haha
[09:22] <puff> Azu1: Ah, got it.
[09:22] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: http://www.happypuppy.com/s2games/Savage_with_sep3t.run
[09:22] <tondar> anyone know how I could upgrade to pidgin 2.0.1
[09:22] <tondar> ?
[09:22] <puff> Wtf?  "The device 'Generic volume' cannot be stopped right now.  Try stopping the device again later."
[09:22] <LordLimeca1> tondar: its not in our repos yet.....
[09:22] <immibis> puff: you probably have something from that drive open
[09:22] <tondar> LordLimeca1: when will it be available
[09:23] <tondar> ?
[09:23] <Lilacor> tondar: yes
[09:23] <tondar> Lilacor: ?
[09:23] <Lilacor> tondar: download the tarball, compile it and install it
[09:23] <onions> http://bots.unbuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi is on ? I'm not getting to it.
[09:23] <Azu1> puff: windows sometimes right stuff on connected devices without you knowing it.. so try later
[09:23] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, looks fantastic
[09:23] <puff> Ah, yeah, that's the problem.
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> tondar: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html#more-203
[09:23] <tondar> Lilacor: tar is downloaded
[09:23] <kenthomson> can someone help disable the automatic mounting of my USB-key?
[09:23] <Azu1> puff: the worst case is restart
[09:23] <Lilacor> tondar: unpack it, configure it, compile it, install it
[09:23] <puff> Found the explorer window that automatically popped up, closed it, that did the trick.
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> Lilacor: not necessary: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-pidgin-200-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-plugin-pack.html#more-203
[09:23] <Azu1> cool
[09:23] <LordLimeca1> .debs :D
[09:24] <FOXONFIRE> how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III?
[09:24] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, I will try to install this at some point and let you know how I got on... any contact details
[09:24] <Lilacor> LordLimeca1: I have no problem using tarballs so I use those..
[09:24] <kenthomson> tell me how to disable automatic mounting of my usb key
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> whatever works :)
[09:24] <LordLimeca1> i find it a chore
[09:24] <Lilacor> indeed
[09:24] <magnetron> kenthomson: System menu > preferences > portable media
[09:24] <KI4IKL> is there an alternative to synergy??
[09:24] <tondar> Lilacor: will it install on the previous version ?
[09:25] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: oh it works fine for me, just grabbed 4 old libraries from breezy and installed stdc++ libc 2.10
[09:25] <Lilacor> tondar: it will overwrite the old version
[09:25] <LordLimeca1> tondar: youll want to remove gaim
[09:25] <Azu1> what is synergy?
[09:25] <no0b> Does anyone know if there's a firewall already on when you install ubuntu?
[09:25] <kenthomson> magnetron, no portable media there, maybe i will have to edit the menu
[09:25] <KI4IKL> Shares mouse and keyboard between two pc's
[09:25] <agentnoob> Paddy_EIRE: if you do ./update in the folder it creates it lists what it requires
[09:25] <tondar> LordLimeca1: I dont use gaim
[09:25] <LordLimeca1> tondar: oh
[09:25] <magnetron> kenthomson: i am not sure of the english name, it should be something similar
[09:25] <Paddy_EIRE> agentnoob, nice one thx for the tip
[09:26] <Azu1> agentnoob: nice name
[09:26] <tondar> Lilacor: unpacked on desktop
[09:26] <no0b> Is there a firewall with ubuntu 7.04 Fiesty Fawn?
[09:26] <tondar> Lilacor: ./configure ?
[09:26] <kenthomson> magnetron, Removable drives and media looks the most promising let me have a lookj
[09:26] <Lilacor> tondar: apt-get build-dep gaim
[09:26] <Lilacor> tondar: ./configure, make, make install
[09:26] <tondar> no0b: firestarter
[09:26] <tondar> no0b: use that
[09:27] <tondar> Lilacor: thanks
[09:27] <no0b> Ok, where do I find the settings for this, firestarter?
[09:27] <magnetron> no0b: yes, but you will probably not need to configure it. if you want, you can use firestarter to configure it
[09:27] <kanzie> Im having problem configuring dual-head on my Feasty-machine with ATI-board. Can anyone assist me?
[09:27] <tondar> Lilacor: do I need to close pidgin before?
[09:27] <no0b> No, something is blocking my ports.
[09:27] <Lilacor> tondar: kill it yes
[09:27] <magnetron> no0b: you have to install it
[09:27] <no0b> Ok, so no firewall comes with ubuntu?
[09:27] <kenthomson> magnetron, what i wish to do is to change the mount point of my audio player it gets mounted at /media/IAUDIO i want it to be at /mnt/IAUDIO, how do i do that?
[09:28] <keeeev> no0b sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:28] <no0b> Who has trouble with ktorrent?
[09:28] <magnetron> !firewall | no0b
[09:28] <ubotu> no0b: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[09:28] <agentnoob> no0b: there is iptables if you want a firewall, however if your using desktop ubuntu and not a server you most likely don't need one
[09:28] <no0b> Man, it's dowloading at 0.1 kbs?
[09:28] <kenthomson> magnetron, ?
[09:28] <agentnoob> no0b: what is?
[09:28] <no0b> like Im gona be here forever.
[09:28] <agentnoob> no0b: oh I use bit tornado
[09:28] <no0b> A PDF file from isohunt.
[09:28] <Flyinion> Linux newbie looking for help getting 8800GTS nvidia drivers to not "crash" X after installing
[09:29] <magnetron> kenthomson: ask the channel, i answer if i have an answer
[09:29] <agentnoob> no0b: you might want to turn up share ratio then
[09:29] <no0b> so how do I do that friend?
[09:29] <kenthomson> magnetron, i have already asked it a couple of times here it goes again
[09:29] <no0b> with ktorrent
[09:29] <agentnoob> Flyinion: I can help
[09:29] <kenthomson> QUESTION: whenever i connect my mp3 (UMS) player to the USB port it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO (it somehow got setup like that). Now i have deleted that particular entry in Amarok>Devices, but still whenever i plug it in it gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO. How do i stop this from happening? Let's say i want it to mount at /mnt/usb, how do i stop this automatic mounting from happening and edit it to configure a different m
 ount point?
[09:29] <magnetron> !repeat | kenthomson
[09:29] <ubotu> kenthomson: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:29] <kenthomson> magnetron, Do you have an answer to my question??
[09:29] <agentnoob> Flyinion: wait here I be back in a sec
[09:29] <Lekrem> LordLimeca1: I found the icon for pidgin /usr/share/pixmaps/pidgin/tray/22/tray-online.png
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> nice :D
[09:30] <keeeev> is there a way to keep users out of the / dir
[09:30] <magnetron> !patience > kenthomson        (read private message from ubotu)
[09:30] <LordLimeca1> thanks, ill add it
[09:30] <keeeev> i did chmod 700 to /home/kev to keep them out
[09:30] <no0b> but it has 120 max connections, I think that's enough?
[09:30] <keeeev> but they can still veiw /
[09:30] <kenthomson> magnetron, Do you have an answer to my bloody question>
[09:30] <no0b> What's UDP tracker port?
[09:31] <keeeev> Is there another Terminal you can use(Which looks better graphical?)
[09:31] <yobrien> xterm
[09:31] <magnetron> !repeat | kenthomson (this is for you kenthomson, this is why i don't answer)
[09:31] <ubotu> kenthomson (this is for you kenthomson, this is why i don't answer): Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:31] <Azu1> gnome-terminal looks ok
[09:31] <Guest619> hi guys
[09:32] <FOXONFIRE> how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III?
[09:32] <tondar> Lilacor: I get errors
[09:32] <tondar> ?!!
[09:32] <tondar> Lilacor: in the make process
[09:32] <Lilacor> tondar: such as?
[09:32] <phantam1> is their a way to do ubuntu onto a usbkey from windows... without having to burn a cd?
[09:32] <kenthomson> magnetron, how much brains does it take for you to answer whether you know the answer to my question, if yes stop mucking around and answer the damn question. I am desperate for it since 2 days now
[09:32] <tondar> Lilacor: well, need to pastebin it
[09:32] <LordLimeca1> kenthomson: ima give you a bit of advice
[09:33] <LordLimeca1> ive been in your situation before, with huge problems for days
[09:33] <Plantain> Hey all
[09:33] <no0b> I have big headache now
[09:33] <LordLimeca1> it happens, but getting angry or being impolite in ircs just gets you ignored
[09:33] <Plantain> I've been asking for a few days now, and no one seems to know, but I guess another try won't hurt
[09:33] <yobrien> !ask | all
[09:33] <ubotu> all: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:33] <FOXONFIRE> how to install edubuntu without booting the "live" section because I'm running only 128Mb of ram on old pentium III?
[09:33] <Plantain> Anyone got experience with installing ubuntu to an external disk under a PPC iBook?
[09:33] <kenthomson> LordLimeca1, Thank you for that golden advice i would have died without it
[09:34] <LordLimeca1> if people dont answer, kenthomson, its very possible they either dont know, or just dont wanna answer
[09:34] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: use the alternate install cd, it has a text installer
[09:34] <LordLimeca1> kenthomson: see, right there, i lost any desire to keep talking to you
[09:34] <tondar> Lilacor: can't paste bi
[09:34] <FOXONFIRE> thank you!!!
[09:34] <phantam1> so is their a way to do ubuntu onto a usbkey (from windows) without burning the livecd (i have no burner right now :( )
[09:34] <tondar> Lilacor: the site gives error
[09:34] <Lilacor> tondar: can't help you with that
[09:34] <tondar> Lilacor: any other sites for pasting
[09:34] <tondar> ?
[09:34] <afflux> phantam1: yes, it is. give me a second
[09:35] <afflux> phantam1: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
[09:35] <Lilacor> !pastebin
[09:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:35] <FOXONFIRE> where I get the alternate cd whit the text installer
[09:35] <Lilacor> dunno
[09:35] <Lilacor> FOXONFIRE: from the ubuntu website
[09:35] <phantam1> thx checking it out now
[09:36] <FOXONFIRE> thank you again!!
[09:36] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: it's kind of hidden. you have to check the checkbox on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:36] <pavs> whats the command to find my kernel version?
[09:37] <afflux> pavs: uname -r
[09:37] <pavs> tnx
[09:37] <kenthomson> QUESTION: How do i edit the config file for HAL? ( i need the name of the file and what ti edit in it). THe point is my usb-key gets automatically mounted at /media/IAUDIO i don't what that too happen but i want it to get mounted at /mnt/IAUDIO. Can you HELP?
[09:37] <keeeev> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 7.04 - feisty Kernel: 2.6.20-16-generic, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 7.2.0 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.8.0
[09:38] <immibis> why not symbolic-link /mnt/IAUDIO to /media/IAUDIO
[09:38] <tim167> how do I make a 1 on 1, bootable backup of a ubuntu harddisk ?
[09:38] <yobrien> kenthomson: what iaudio player have you got?
[09:38] <immibis> keeeev: ln -s /media/IAUDIO /mnt/IAUDIO
[09:38] <Gerro> hey anyone know why NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run has a pkg2.run pkg3.run pkg4.run etc?
[09:38] <kenthomson> immibis, because i want to see that HAL file and how to edit it
[09:38] <kenthomson> yobrien, Cowon Iaudio u2 - 2gb
[09:39] <immibis> try dd if=/dev/DISK of=/PATH/TO/BACKUP
[09:39] <immibis> that is tim167
[09:39] <kenthomson> immibis, you see what if i don't want my IAUDIO to be mounted specifically like that but simply as a sda1, how do i do it?
[09:39] <immibis> i don't know
[09:39] <immibis> what's HAL?
[09:39] <keeeev> inmibis?
[09:39] <tim167> immibis ok
[09:39] <keeeev>  ln -s /media/IAUDIO /mnt/IAUDIO ? you wanted me to do this for?
[09:39] <immibis> you won't be able to make a backup to the same drive which is being backed up, obviously
[09:40] <FOXONFIRE> Afflux how about alternate cd for edunbutu ?
[09:40] <JABJabJA1> has any a clue on how to convert my /etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xml from the XML structure to line format eg "/apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_enabled false" so that i can place then into /usr/share/gconf/defaults directory
[09:40] <yobrien> kenthomson: cant you create a symlink ?
[09:40] <immibis> keeeev: then you can use /mnt/IAUDIO and that's where you wanted it, isn't it?
[09:40] <phantam1> hey afflux does ubuntu come with beryl and the other 3d stuff now (sorry to be a bug, in your ear tonight for something thats probably a stupid question lol)
[09:40] <tim167> immibis, in a terminal inside ubuntu or do i have to boot from a live cd ?
[09:40] <immibis> where are you backing up to?
[09:41] <tim167> immibis, a new empty harddisk
[09:41] <afflux> phantam1: yes. you can just enable it with the "desktop-effects" tool. You can find it in Systen -> Settings
[09:41] <phantam1> hmmm the install from windows says to use 6.06 or 6.10 ... does that mean its not the same for 7.04?
[09:41] <immibis> dd if=/dev/OLDDISK of=/dev/NEWDISK
[09:41] <kenthomson> keeeev, yobrien, immibis, somehow my machine automatically mounts my USB-player to /media/IAUDIO, what i want to do is change the mount point OR to make it behave so that it is mounted as a normal usb drive like sda1, sda2. How do i do it?
[09:41] <immibis> you may need to be root
[09:41] <afflux> phantam1: (it's compiz and only  in 7.04)
[09:41] <immibis> that is, tim167 may need to be root
[09:41] <yetnot> where turkhish chat ubuntu ?
[09:42] <keeeev> oh
[09:42] <Gerro> yetnot: omg there a turkhish chat ubuntu? dude invite me to it
[09:42] <yetnot> hmm
[09:42] <tim167> immibis, ok I'll try that this afternoon...does that also copy swap partition and bootsector etc ?
[09:42] <keeeev> then mount it in /media/USB-PLAYER
[09:42] <yobrien> kenthomson: why cant you use a symlink?
[09:42] <keeeev> make sure you mkdir before you mount it
[09:42] <CheshireViking> !tr | yetnot
[09:42] <ubotu> yetnot: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[09:42] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: oh. It seems like there is no alternate cd installer for edubuntu. sorry.
[09:42] <yetnot> teekkrler
[09:42] <osfameron> ah "tr".  I was wondering if it'd be "my" or something for magyar
[09:43] <Guest256> compiz?
[09:43] <FOXONFIRE> no problem thank you for your help Afflux!
[09:43] <kenthomson> yobrien, keeeev, i am not using a symlink because i want to know the file that automatically mounts my usb devices. If i were to mount it manually than all would be fine, but i want to see what file is causing it to mount at /media/IAUDIO and edit that file so that it mounts it at /mnt/IAUDIO or maybe as simple a sda1 so that if we edit the config file no extra options would be necessary
[09:44] <yetnot> ubotu: neden orada kimse yok
[09:44] <afflux> kenthomson: you can add a line for the device (/dev/sdasomething) in /etc/fstab
[09:44] <phantam1> afflux: compiz?... also the tutorial for the usbkey says to use edgy or dapper.. (6.06 or 6.10) is their an issue with using 7.04? or something i need to do different
[09:45] <afflux> phantam1: err... possible. maybe it's just outdated.
[09:45] <kenthomson> afflux, i saw my /etc/fstab and there is no mention of the usb thing in there, so i am wondering which file automatically mount my IAUDIO player to that mount point and want to edit that file itself
[09:45] <afflux> kenthomson: type "mount" when the player is mounted, you should get all necesary information from it (means: filesystem, mountoptions, /dev/anything)
[09:45] <KI4IKL> If I restart x will it kill firefox?
[09:46] <immibis> probably
[09:46] <afflux> kenthomson: yes, it is actually mounted via gnome and hal, but an entry in fstab would stop this.
[09:46] <FOXONFIRE> kenthomson there is a file inside your usb drive where you can edit to change the auto mount something like cd autoplayer
[09:46] <phantam1> hehe that doesnt sound reassuring lol
[09:46] <Jinesh> ki4ikl : it should
[09:46] <afflux> KI4IKL: it will, yes. all running applications in X will be killed
[09:46] <yetnot> ubotu:
[09:46] <tim167>  immibis: do I have to format the new disk first ? before doing dd if=/dev/olddisk of=/dev/newdisk ?
[09:46] <kenthomson> FOXONFIRE, please tell me again, i didn't get you
[09:46] <afflux> FOXONFIRE: no, there isn't.
[09:46] <incorrect> is there a howto to install the nvidia xorg driver?
[09:46] <Jinesh> how can i transfer my files between windows host and ubuntu guest on VMware
[09:46] <FOXONFIRE> there is a hide file
[09:47] <crdlb> !nvidia | incorrect
[09:47] <ubotu> incorrect: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <tim167> incorrect: you can use 'envy'
[09:47] <kenthomson> afflux, but than i want to see what interfaces are automatically mounting it that way and want to edit them, as my /etc/fstab has no mention of the USB thing i think two different config files one trying to mount the same USB to location A and another to location B is not nice
[09:47] <crdlb> tim167, please don't recommend envy
[09:47] <Lilacor> Jinesh: if you're using workstation 6, use shared folders
[09:47] <afflux> kenthomson: well, the hal thing is just for any device not listed in fstab.
[09:47] <Jinesh> nope i am using 5.5.3
[09:47] <afflux> kenthomson: anyway, i'm searching for the config file of hal.
[09:47] <tim167> crdlb why not ? it works well here
[09:48] <Lilacor> Jinesh: upgrade to 6 and use shared folders then
[09:48] <crdlb> !envy | tim167
[09:48] <ubotu> tim167: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:48] <crdlb> there's simply no reason to use it
[09:48] <Jinesh> vm allows upgrade or i ll have to uninstall
[09:48] <Lilacor> Jinesh: or try to use samba between machines
[09:48] <IRC> what can be the UMASK value for default executable permission
[09:48] <Jinesh> samba wats tht sir ?
[09:48] <Lilacor> !samba
[09:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:49] <tim167> crdlb, ok I wont recommend it then, but it never broke any machine and i used it on several...
[09:49] <Kroulee> Anyone know if you can and how you can open wine programs installed on other users?
[09:49] <IRC> what can be the UMASK value for default executable permission?? anyone
[09:49] <phantam1> which version is  "feisty"
[09:50] <forsaken> I have an ubuntu install and every time I login to gnome it crashs, anyone know why this might be?
[09:50] <crdlb> !feisty | phantam1
[09:50] <ubotu> phantam1: Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[09:50] <yobrien> IRC: What do you  mean default executable permission?
[09:50] <kenthomson> crdlb, i am having a Digital Audio Playet (Cowon Iaudio u2), that works like a simple usb key (supports USB), now the point is whenever i plug it in it gets mounted at /media/IAUDIO. WHat config file could be causing this behaviour? ANd how do i make it mount at some place else?
[09:50] <kwtm> If I set up sshd (OpenSSH Server), how do I check what the RSA key is supposed to be?
[09:51] <afflux> kenthomson: doh. It seems we need to change the udev config, not the hal
[09:51] <tondar> anyone here ever used vmgl?
[09:51] <Kroulee> Anyone know how to run WINE programs installed on another User?
[09:51] <IRC> to make the file at executable state when the file is created?
[09:51] <kenthomson> afflux, and how do we go about doing that?
[09:52] <Lilacor> IRC I think you're looking for 'umask'
[09:52] <kwtm> When I try to SSH into my server, it says, "Are you sure the host key is b3:52:a1: .... " etc.  What do I compare that to?  Where on the host will it say "b3:52:a1:..." to confirm that I have the right key?
[09:52] <gejr> Does anyone know how to setup another user for Apache2 on ubuntu server? Do i need to use virtual sites? I can't find a good guide anywhere.
[09:52] <phantam1> ah
[09:52] <phantam1> hmmm
[09:52] <IRC> ya i am looking for umask value
[09:52] <Kroulee> Anyone know how to run WINE programs installed on another User?
[09:52] <KI4IKL> "checking for c++ compiler warning flags... -Wall -Wno-unknown-pragmas | checking for C++ compiler warning are errors flags... -Werror"
[09:52] <yobrien> IRC: umask is a mask that is ANDed with the permissions a program tries to use so you cant set it to always have the x bit set
[09:52] <Lilacor> IRC take 777 and subtract
[09:52] <phantam1> Feisty will not be persistent on a USB pendrive due to a version mismatch between Unionfs and the kernel
[09:52] <phantam1> arggg
[09:52] <phantam1> that doesnt look good
[09:53] <Lilacor>  421 421 421 rwxrwxrwx
[09:53] <kenthomson> afflux, i cat-ed all files in "cd /etc/udev/rules.d/*", but didn't get any results for "grep IAUDIO"
[09:53] <afflux> kenthomson: yes. As I said, it has a general rule.
[09:53] <v3n0m`> gravemind: u around?
[09:53] <afflux> kenthomson: mind a query?
[09:53] <kenthomson> afflux, go on
[09:54] <IRC> thats could not work 421
[09:54] <fwest> is there a beryl howto?
[09:54] <CheshireViking> !beryl
[09:54] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:55] <Lilacor> IRC 421 is what I'm pointing out to you
[09:55] <Lilacor> IRC owner, group, all
[09:55] <IRC> but that is not working
[09:55] <yobrien> kenthomson: i think the IAUDIO name comes from the FAT volume of the usb disk
[09:55] <Kroulee> Anyone know how to get XDMCP to work? over an internet connection, not lan
[09:55] <no0b> Hello!
[09:55] <kenthomson> yobrien, what controls that automounting thing and how do we change that?
[09:55] <Lilacor> irc owner/group/all 421421421 rwxrwxrwx
[09:55] <phantam1> wow ... that forum post on the persistence is c-on-fu-sing
[09:55] <yobrien> kenthomson: dont no
[09:56] <yobrien> kno
[09:56] <yobrien> w
[09:56] <Lilacor> IRC that's how 777 = full access for all
[09:56] <planetbeing> I'm having problems installing Ubuntu. Several problems, in fact. I couldn't get the Live CD to work and after I installed it with the alternate CD, the screen just blanks and the caps lock and scroll lock keys would flash.
[09:56] <planetbeing> I read that means that's a kernel panic. Anyone have any idea how to at least figure out what the error was?
[09:57] <Lilacor> irc so take 777 and subtract the values you want to get the umask you need
[09:57] <Lilacor> IRC: umask 022 is the most common so far as I knojw
[09:57] <Lilacor> know
[09:57] <Lilacor> fuck
[09:57] <no0b> HELLO, I NEED HELP WITH A PROBLEM. I CAN'T SEEM TOO GET THE WIFI CISCO AIRONET ON MY LAPTOP TOO CONNECT TOO MY HOME NETWORK?
[09:58] <IRC> what i wanted to do is that, when the directory firstly created, it is at -rwx- state, but next the newly created file inside that directory is at only -rw- state, so i want that file is also at -rwx-state when it is created
[09:58] <Lilacor> !caps
[09:58] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:58] <no0b> CAN YOU PLEASE HELP?
[09:58] <FOXONFIRE> planetbeing I have that same problem there was an error on the download
[09:58] <no0b> Oh sorry
[09:58] <IRC> i tried all those, 777, 077, 002, 022
[09:58] <savvas> the link for gutsy gibbon tribe 1 in http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ links to an admin login
[09:58] <IRC> but all are not working
[09:58] <FOXONFIRE> check cd for errors or download again
[09:58] <planetbeing> The CD image verified, though, when I selected tahat option.
[09:58] <Lilacor> IRC umask 777 = no access for anyone
[09:59] <planetbeing> I'm not sure about the Live CD, but the alternate installer certain worked. Maybe I'll try downloading the Live CD again.
[09:59] <no0b> Can somebody help me with connecting my laptop too the home network?
[09:59] <IRC> yeap, 777 is for no access
[09:59] <no0b> wifi
[09:59] <Lilacor> IRC umask 022 = chmod 755
[10:00] <IRC> ok
[10:00] <IRC> but that 022 is not working
[10:01] <maarten_> hello
[10:01] <planetbeing> No one knows where the logs for kernel panics can be found?
[10:02] <yobrien> planetbeing: /var/syslog ?
[10:02] <yobrien> planetbeing: /var/log/syslog
[10:02] <planetbeing> Thanks
[10:05] <barata> anybody tried the latest ubuntu?
[10:05] <arooni> is there an easy way to see which packages i have installed?
[10:05] <KI4IKL> When I go to start the synergy server I get "Can't access shared memory area. SHM Config disabled?
[10:05] <arooni> a listing of all of them?
[10:06] <ziroday> barata: yeah but theres not much difference i thinks theres a review on phoronix
[10:06] <ziroday> KI4IKL: are you starting the server with sudo?
[10:06] <KI4IKL> yes
[10:07] <ppt> Hello, can you help me, in which file are beryl-manager settings, please?
[10:07] <ziroday> KI4IKL: i dont think that it installed properly how did you install
[10:07] <ziroday> ppt: /home/<username>/.beryl
[10:07] <KI4IKL> Install what, synergy?
[10:07] <ziroday> KI4IKL: yes
[10:07] <ppt> ziroday: thx
[10:07] <ziroday> ppt: np
[10:07] <KI4IKL> umm...the way it told me to.
[10:08] <KI4IKL> one sec.
[10:08] <ziroday> KI4IKL: did you use source or a .deb?
[10:08] <newb_pro1> how do I duplicate my monitor (to an external lcd projector) under ubuntu running X, using a nvidia card?
[10:08] <KI4IKL> a source
[10:08] <overridden> newb_pro1, install "nvidia-settings"
[10:08] <barata> I start to realize that upgrading can easily break your system
[10:08] <linux_probe> test
[10:09] <KI4IKL> oh...whoops
[10:09] <KI4IKL> My bad.
[10:09] <ziroday> KI4IKL: check you installed it correctly as a lot of things go wrong with source installations, this sounds like a issue with how you compiled the source
[10:09] <KI4IKL> I put osmething wrong in the gdm/init defualt file.
[10:09] <ziroday> linux_probe: hi
[10:09] <KI4IKL> one min, let me check it
[10:09] <ziroday> KI4IKL: sure
[10:09] <ScottMac> hi guys can someone help? terminal cant seem to find my xorg.conf !! file /etc/x11/xorg.conf  gives me ERROR cannot open no such file or folder
[10:09] <overridden> X&&
[10:09] <overridden> X11
[10:10] <overridden> lol
[10:10] <tim167> can ddrescue be used for Fat32 disks ?
[10:10] <r4ge> locate xorg.conf
[10:10] <CheshireViking> ScottMac, its a capital X for X11, not x11
[10:10] <r00tintheb0x> r0ck1n
[10:10] <ziroday> ScottMac: its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:10] <ziroday> r00tintheb0x: hey
[10:10] <newb_pro1> overridden: done, what next?
[10:10] <ScottMac> ahhh man.........
[10:10] <IRC> what can be the umask value for newly created file for default executable permission i.e -rwx-?
[10:10] <overridden> sudo nvidia-settings
[10:11] <newb_pro1> yep
[10:11] <newb_pro1> it only seens monitor0
[10:11] <newb_pro1> I mean XScreen0
[10:11] <Asad2005> Is there a command to display file permission in terms of numbers (755 ..etc) rather than rwx ...
[10:11] <overridden> are you using the hardware accelerated "nvidia" driver, of just the software 'nv' ?
[10:11] <ScottMac> thanks for the fix
[10:11] <newb_pro1> overridden: hardware accelearated
[10:11] <overridden> better to use "nvidia"
[10:11] <overridden> k
[10:12] <overridden> is you'r projected powered-on ?? :)
[10:12] <overridden> r
[10:12] <KI4IKL> ziroday, ...I had a moment, where is the init file?
[10:12] <newb_pro1> eh, the "projectro" is an extenal monitor, and yes it is powered on
[10:12] <ziroday> KI4IKL: for gnome or kde?
[10:12] <KI4IKL> gnome
[10:12] <overridden> then the detect-button should work flawless
[10:12] <ziroday> KI4IKL: gimme a min ill google :)
[10:13] <KI4IKL> thanks
[10:13] <gh0stid> hi everyone how u doing ?
[10:13] <newb_pro1> overridden: err, a magic detect button? where?
[10:13] <overridden> in nvidia-settings gui
[10:13] <Kroulee> Whats the best way to remote log in to another system over the internet? I want to have multiple sessions running simultaneously and independently of each other.
[10:13] <newb_pro1> overridden: omg; amazing
[10:13] <overridden> lol
[10:13] <immibis> Kroulee: I don't know which is the best way, but you can use VNC, a remote X server, or SSH
[10:13] <ziroday> KI4IKL: exactly what file do you want, sorry
[10:13] <overridden> lol, het komt hier weer vol te zitten met stalkers
[10:14] <arcade> How does one upgrade the kernel with Feisty?  Is there any newer kernel releases than the one that follows the distro?
[10:14] <newb_pro1> overridden: omg; that is aamzing; thanks!
[10:14] <Tinkertim> Good day to all, has anyone tried porting over the Debian HURD packages to Ubuntu?
[10:14] <overridden> no prob newb_pro1
[10:14] <r00tintheb0x> immibis why not sugguest X11 forwarding over SSH?
[10:14] <overridden> arcade, apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:14] <immibis> r00tintheb0x: You can forward X over SSH?
[10:14] <r00tintheb0x> yes immibis
[10:14] <ziroday> KI4IKL: is in /etc/init.d i think
[10:14] <immibis> r00tintheb0x: how would that work?
[10:15] <r00tintheb0x> fairly easily, expecially if you're using 2 linux systems
[10:15] <gh0stid> sorry to bother you people but .. i have some kind of a big problem i been searching for a few days now . and still hasnt found any solution to my problem. its concerning feisty fawn 7.0.4 and nvidia on a Geforce V9570 FX5700 video card :/ anyone could help ? i only get xwindows working using "nv" in xorg.conf ! please help im kind of lost. ive read every single post and didnt found any answer :/
[10:15] <newb_pro1> overridden: one last question; "twinview" is making it act as if the two monitors are side by side; I want one to just mirror the other; what is that called?
[10:15] <arcade> overridden: There are newer kernels available?
[10:15] <r00tintheb0x> immibis check out the -X flag in the man pages for ssh
[10:15] <KI4IKL> yeah, thats it, thanks
[10:15] <overridden> you can forward anything over ssh, ssh is nothing but an encryton immibis
[10:15] <immibis> ok
[10:15] <Robbster> Install Problem: Lenovo Z61m. Install failes when trying to install the kernel. Core2Duo + X1400
[10:15] <r00tintheb0x> overridden actually its a client server relationship also.
[10:15] <arcade> overridden: I've got 2.6.20, and would like something newer. :)
[10:16] <Kroulee> Immibis: Im in VNC right now, but it doesnt appear to let me log into one user at the samme time as the person on the other end is logged into another user. The person at the other end has to watch my screen.
[10:16] <Robbster> ... during the package installation.
[10:16] <ziroday> gh0stid: the 5700 is usually pretty good do you have any other graphic cards?
[10:16] <r00tintheb0x> it isnt JUST a secure connection
[10:16] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[10:16] <gh0stid> ziroday, none :/ im sorry
[10:16] <overridden> there are newer ones I think
[10:16] <ziroday> gh0stid: how have you tried to install it?
[10:16] <r00tintheb0x> okay
[10:17] <r00tintheb0x> anyone need help with any advanced problems, feel free to ask me :)
[10:17] <arcade> overridden: I'm hoping that a newer kernel would solve my problem in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89892 :P
[10:17] <arcade> overridden: As that kernel is completely unusable on an omnibook 6100 :P
[10:18] <gh0stid> well on a brand new install of feisty , i followed the link : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia , tried also envy gui, also tried to apt-get install and other way, the only one i didnt try is from nvidia website cause it was not a good idea . but honestly i think i did everything i could think of..
[10:18] <Kroulee> Immibis: and XDMCP doesnt appear to let us do it over the internet, only lan
[10:18] <ziroday> r00tintheb0x: hey its me remember with the random kernel panics due to the at76c503a drivers and a linksys WUSB11
[10:18] <ScottMac> another question... i have one hard drive two partitions, when i went over to ubuntu i left one of the hard drives in NTFS as this had all my music documents etc. the other is in ext3 and has ubuntu. should ubuntu allow me to copy files to the NTFS drive
[10:18] <r00tintheb0x> yeah  ziroday i remember
[10:18] <nobody[idle] > r00tintheb0x: Could you help me inactivate the press-to-klick function on my laptop touchpad? :> Im a rookie and have no clue how to.
[10:18] <ziroday> gh0stid: what errors do you get?
[10:18] <r00tintheb0x> still working on that eh?
[10:18] <overridden> ziroday, if you boot using "irqpoll" your panics wil be gone
[10:19] <r00tintheb0x> nobody[idle] , paste me your xorg.conf file to pastebin.ca please
[10:19] <gh0stid> ziroday: when using "nvidia" driver, instead of "nv". i get Fatal Error. no screen found
[10:19] <ziroday> r00tintheb0x: its a registered bug and being looked into by the Ubuntu Kernel Team
[10:19] <overridden> ziroday, if you boot using "irqpoll" your panics wil be gone
[10:19] <overridden> that bug is over a year old
[10:19] <ziroday> overridden: really, what does irqpoll do? and where do i put it?
[10:20] <overridden> after "splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst on your kernel boot line
[10:20] <ziroday> gh0stid: sounds like a bad config on the xserver, you ever tried the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command?
[10:20] <gh0stid> yep
[10:20] <gh0stid> just did it
[10:20] <gh0stid> still nothing
[10:20] <r00tintheb0x> oh ziroday ... have you tried what overridden sugguested?
[10:20] <ziroday> overridden: hmm sounds good
[10:20] <KI4IKL> still no luck ziroday ...that wasn't it.
[10:20] <KI4IKL> I dunno.
[10:20] <ziroday> KI4IKL: same lol
[10:20] <KI4IKL> I'll screw with it when I get the new version of ubuntu installed tommorow.
[10:20] <KI4IKL> Maybe there is an alternative?
[10:20] <ziroday> KI4IKL: ask r00tintheb0x hes super pro lol
[10:21] <KI4IKL> Is there one that you know of?
[10:21] <r00tintheb0x> KI4IKL, whats your issue?
[10:21] <KI4IKL> r00tintheb0x, is there an alternative to synergy?
[10:21] <overridden> KI4IKL, what does "lsmod | grep nvidia" give ?
[10:21] <KI4IKL> I'll deal with it tommorow if there isn't, but yeah.
[10:21] <ziroday> r00tintheb0x: will do once i fini helping gh0stid
[10:21] <r00tintheb0x> never used it K
[10:21] <r00tintheb0x> what is it?
[10:21] <KI4IKL> ...umm...one sec
[10:21] <r00tintheb0x> ok ziroday
[10:21] <ziroday> gh0stid: u there?
[10:21] <gh0stid> always
[10:22] <ziroday> gh0stid: sounds like a bad xserver config
[10:22] <KI4IKL> it gives nothing  overridden
[10:22] <gh0stid> ziroday: i tried the dpkg not working
[10:22] <overridden> voila
[10:22] <Flyinion> can anyone help a newbie with getting an Nvidia 8800GTS working?  I have drivers installed but Ubuntu boots into text mode complaining the config file is not set right and can't start X
[10:22] <overridden> theire is your prob, do "modprobe nvidia"
[10:22] <ziroday> gh0stid: why dont you install the drivers via envy and then ill config your xserver for you?
[10:23] <overridden> and then do "update-initramfs -u"
[10:23] <gh0stid> ziroday: i can try again, but i tried already envy -t, but sure lemme a seconde imma have to redownload envy could you please w8 a minute please ? gotta find the link again
[10:23] <KI4IKL> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/volatile/nvidia.ko)No such device
[10:23] <ziroday> Flyinion: you have a badly configed xserver either run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reconfigure or pastebing you conf fiel pls
[10:23] <overridden> apt-get install nvidia-gx ?
[10:23] <ziroday> gh0stid: np
[10:23] <beardbar> there a quick way to restart x-windows from the command line
[10:24] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:24] <ziroday> beardbar: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:24] <beardbar> thanks guys
[10:24] <overridden> voila
[10:24] <KI4IKL> hey overridden i'll catch you tommorow after i've put feisty on there, i'm donwloading the newst one for a fresh install after I get it settled, then i'll work on it.
[10:24] <gh0stid> ziroday: want me to remove ANY nvidia drivers ? before going further with envy ?
[10:24] <KI4IKL> Thanks for the help guys.
[10:24] <KI4IKL> Night
[10:25] <overridden> have fun
[10:25] <Flyinion> thx ziro I'll boot back over and try that
[10:25] <ziroday> gh0stid: if you already have nvidia drivers than dont worry with envy
[10:25] <ziroday> gh0stid: just pastebin you xorg.conf files pls
[10:25] <ziroday> Flyinion: np
[10:25] <r00tintheb0x> find / -name "*.mp3" -type f -exec chmod 744 {} \;
[10:25] <r00tintheb0x> ack, oops... my bad.
[10:25] <gh0stid> pastebin ?
[10:26] <BiTMAP> !pastebin
[10:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:26] <gh0stid> thx
[10:26] <r00tintheb0x> overridden, you any good @ server problems?
[10:26] <overridden> define "good"
[10:26] <Flyinion> someone told me to use mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit the config but it gave a weird error when I tried it, possibly due to being in text mode?
[10:26] <nobody[idle] > r00tintheb0x: here's my xorg.conf. Took my time finding it :>
[10:26] <r00tintheb0x> being able to hold your own as an admin?
[10:27] <r00tintheb0x> ok nobody[idle] 
[10:27] <nobody[idle] > http://www.pastebin.ca/549926
[10:27] <r00tintheb0x> looking nobody[idle] 
[10:27] <nobody[idle] > forgot the url...
[10:27] <puff> define "server problems"
[10:27] <k31th> Anyone had any luck running codeweavers crossover office and office 2007?
[10:27] <ziroday> Flyinion: do sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf to edit your xorg
[10:27] <overridden> I've been using only linux for the past 3 years r00tintheb0x
[10:27] <r00tintheb0x> oh ok
[10:27] <gh0stid> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24676/
[10:27] <r00tintheb0x> you have any experience with samba winbind and windows ad?
[10:27] <k31th> yes
[10:28] <overridden> LOL, no comment
[10:28] <r00tintheb0x> nobody[idle] , you say your touchpad isnt working?
[10:28] <k31th> r00tintheb0x: there are tones of good guides, esp the samba one.
[10:28] <r00tintheb0x> k31th, ive got it all set up
[10:28] <overridden> (ONLY linux I said)
[10:28] <r00tintheb0x> something isnt jiving though
[10:28] <k31th> r00tintheb0x: wat is your anme about
[10:28] <r00tintheb0x> i can bind to the DC and pull users and groups with wbinfo...
[10:28] <k31th> are you a script kiddy?
[10:29] <r00tintheb0x> no, just thought it was humorous
[10:29] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[10:29] <r00tintheb0x> kinda... being sarcastic with it.
[10:29] <k31th> hum
[10:29] <r00tintheb0x> but when i try to connect to a samba share with a windows client... it fails auth.
[10:29] <r00tintheb0x> but, a linux smbclient can connect to it
[10:29] <ziroday> gh0stid: hows it going?
[10:29] <r00tintheb0x> :\
[10:29] <gh0stid> ziroday: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24676/
[10:30] <ziroday> gh0stid: thanks
[10:30] <nobody[idle] > its working, im just trying to inactivate the function push-to-click or whatever it is called. So It wont use strikes as mouseclicks.
[10:30] <overridden> I do have a device-server that has smb, but even didnt use that
[10:30] <gh0stid> seonc time i paste it ;) i tough u seen it the first time ;)
[10:30] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[10:30] <gh0stid> second*
[10:30] <r00tintheb0x> nobody[idle] , have you checked bios?
[10:30] <BiTMAP> where is my sources.list file ?? :| i cant remember
[10:30] <nobody[idle] > not really. good idea :>
[10:30] <r00tintheb0x> yeah overridden this is pretty advanced... i havent been able to find anyone that can help me so far.
[10:30] <gh0stid> BiTMAP: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:30] <BiTMAP> thanks
[10:31] <gh0stid> BiTMAP: np
[10:31] <sj> hi
[10:31] <overridden> good luck
[10:31] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, im going to need it.
[10:31] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x: i ran the command to restart xwindows, and it shut it down but then just hung at the background screen. that normal?
[10:31] <magnetron> BiTMAP: next time you dislocate a file, you can also use "locate sources.list" or similar
[10:31] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, did you just reinstall your video drivers?
[10:32] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: have u tried using swat to configure ur samba ?
[10:32] <nobody[idle] > thanks for the help r00tintheb0x, ill go check bios :>
[10:32] <keeeev> init 5
[10:32] <beardbar> yep
[10:32] <BiTMAP> magnetron: would that be in terminal? i tried desktop search but it appears to still be indexing
[10:32] <r00tintheb0x> yes gh0stid... like i said... its configured correctly and its bound to the WinAD server
[10:32] <r00tintheb0x> but i cant connect to shares.
[10:32] <ziroday> gh0stid: can you do modprobe nvidia please?
[10:32] <gh0stid> ziroday: sure 2sec
[10:32] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x: yes  i did reinstall my vid drivers, thats why?
[10:32] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, do you have a NVidia chipset"?
[10:32] <ziroday> gh0stid: np
[10:32] <magnetron> BiTMAP: yes that would be in terminal. desktop search will have to index for a while before you can use it
[10:32] <beardbar> no i have VIA technolgies Chrome9 chipset
[10:33] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, what video chipset
[10:33] <gh0stid> ziroday: gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:33] <gh0stid> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[10:33] <gh0stid> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[10:33] <ziroday> gh0stid: okay you dont have the nvidia drivers installed do you have a gui?
[10:34] <overridden> gh0stid, check the ubuntu wiki on installing nvidia-glx
[10:34] <gh0stid> ziroday: right now i do, im in xchar
[10:34] <gh0stid> overridden: i did ;)
[10:34] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x: Via Tech, Sg3 something or other, Crhome9. so i was looking on the forums and found a post that said to: sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[10:34] <ziroday> gh0stid: right can you install nvidia drivers please any way you wnt
[10:34] <r00tintheb0x> ok hold beardbar
[10:34] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, do you know the model # of your mobo?
[10:35] <overridden> Im gonna eat something
[10:35] <beardbar> rootinthebox: one sec
[10:35] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[10:35] <gh0stid> ziroday: this is not i havent tried believe me ;) apt-get install nvidia-glx-new download install and everything, but still not working when i restart X black screen saying no signal on my monitor ..
[10:35] <gh0stid> ziroday: then i go edit xorg.conf and put it back to nv, pouf working ;) but still no nvidia drivers..
[10:35] <overridden> maybe boot with "noapic" gh0stid
[10:36] <overridden> bye
[10:36] <gh0stid> overridden: may i know what is this option doing ?
[10:36] <ziroday> gh0stid: i think is cause you didnt configure your xserver after you installed the drivers
[10:36] <beardbar> rootinthebox: http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/M660N.asp  thats my laptop
[10:36] <gh0stid> ziroday: i did:/ right after the install
[10:36] <r00tintheb0x> ok beardbar i gotcha
[10:37] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, the problem i believe is the driver section for display in your xorg.conf file.
[10:37] <r00tintheb0x> you should have "i810" for that part
[10:37] <r00tintheb0x> do a "grep 810 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <r00tintheb0x> "
[10:37] <r00tintheb0x> and see what it gives you
[10:37] <beardbar> rootinthebox: ok, one sec
[10:38] <gh0stid> ziroday: what now :/ ?
[10:38] <NortonX> whats the command to rename a file?
[10:38] <gh0stid> NortonX: mv
[10:38] <jrib> NortonX: mv oldname newname
[10:39] <ziroday> gh0stid: ill show youmy x.org i have the 5500FX and i think that something is screwy so could u pls just reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[10:39] <r00tintheb0x> ziroday, what was i working with you on the other day?
[10:39] <gh0stid> ziroday: could you please lead me in the installation , maybe im doing something wrong i dont know ..
[10:40] <ziroday> gh0stid: sure i think you should use envy, dl it and run
[10:40] <ziroday> gh0stid: but dont restart
[10:40] <LordLimecat> wait
[10:40] <LordLimecat> why use envy?
[10:40] <no0b> hey guys, I have ubuntu on my computer and would liek too go back too windows XP, how can I avoid GRUB Error Loading messages?
[10:40] <ziroday> gh0stid: brb i got my school report :(:(:(:(:(
[10:40] <LordLimecat> ....why not use the official nvidia-glx
[10:40] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[10:40] <beardbar> rootinthebox: nothing returns, infact that command hangs, so i nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and looked through didnt see anything with 810
[10:41] <no0b> can you help?
[10:41] <gh0stid> ziroday: i just ran synaptic.. not to argue but nvidia-glx-new is definatly installed .. :/ version : 1.0.9755+2.6.20.... ;/ any idea? ?
[10:42] <LordLimecat> gh0stid: whats going on?
[10:42] <r00tintheb0x__> ugh
[10:42] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: sorry to bother you people but .. i have some kind of a big problem i been searching for a few days now . and still hasnt found any solution to my problem. its concerning feisty fawn 7.0.4 and nvidia on a Geforce V9570 FX5700 video card :/ anyone could help ? i only get xwindows working using "nv" in xorg.conf ! please help im kind of lost. ive read every single post and didnt found any answer :/
[10:42] <GiZiM> Howdy all, I got a special problem on a new install of FF Amarok is giving me some issues. When it starts up and i place a .MP3 in the playlist i get a "MP3 support is not installed" but the box its self is just WHITE plain white it does not put the two "Yes" or "No" buttons in there. Any ideas?
[10:42] <r00tintheb0x> ok back in action.
[10:43] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, is this a new install?
[10:43] <GiZiM> Yup, brand new
[10:43] <GiZiM> I apt-get removed and reinstalled
[10:43] <GiZiM> same thing
[10:43] <r00tintheb0x> ok GiZiM check out http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:43] <LordLimecat> gh0stid: ah....and restricted driver manager doesnt think you need restricted drivers?
[10:43] <r00tintheb0x> its PACKED with "get you going" info.
[10:43] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[10:43] <GiZiM> Yeah, i did and nobody even talked to me.
[10:43] <monk1> buenas dias
[10:43] <GiZiM> lol
[10:43] <r00tintheb0x> can anyone get to this website? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[10:43] <monk1> kien puede ayudarme con una ACER ORBICAM??
[10:43] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: he does.. whenever i enable it, i restart x, got the drum but no picture.. :/
[10:43] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, thats because your question has been answered HUNDREDS of times.
[10:43] <UnhandledExcepti> yep r00tintheb0x
[10:44] <r00tintheb0x> ok UnhandledExcepti thanks
[10:44] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, use the search function.
[10:44] <UnhandledExcepti> it doesnt work
[10:44] <LordLimecat> hmm
[10:44] <beardbar> rootinthebox: not me, site times out for me
[10:44] <GiZiM> Ill try some different tags in the search box and see if i come up with something else.
[10:44] <UnhandledExcepti> wating for ubuntuguide...
[10:44] <LordLimecat> what does dmesg think?  what about Xorg.0.log?
[10:44] <r00tintheb0x> ok GiZiM if you can get it let me know
[10:45] <beardbar> rootinthebox: so i didnt find 810 in my xorg.conf, any ideas?
[10:45] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: fatal error no screen found ( using the nvidia driver, if i use nv, its all good ( simple.. but good and no 3d accellaration so no beryl or other thing .. )
[10:45] <LordLimecat> ah
[10:45] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, look for a section that has information about your video card.
[10:45] <LordLimecat> i think i know whats goin on
[10:45] <LordLimecat> maybe
[10:45] <monk1> i have this problem when i boot my ubuntu festy: Failed to configure a camera........... how can help me?
[10:45] <LordLimecat> possibly
[10:45] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: right now im using nv
[10:45] <UnhandledExcepti> r00tintheb0x: the site is down, no ?
[10:46] <r00tintheb0x> UnhandledExcepti, can you not get to it?
[10:46] <LordLimecat> its possible that somehow 2 driver modules are loading?  I had something similar, because somehow nvidia_legacy modules were loading as well as the 9755 modules
[10:46] <LordLimecat> it would bluescreen whenever i tried to use newer drivers
[10:46] <GiZiM> Thanks alot, 2nd question can someone point me to a detailed page that will explain how to degrade the kernel. Im having some issues with the .16 Kernel (KBuntu Network Manger issues).
[10:46] <UnhandledExcepti> r00tintheb0x: no
[10:47] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: here we go . ive put in the erm .. some place that block module to load : ive put nv, just to be sure still no succes
[10:47] <r00tintheb0x> UnhandledExcepti, me either... i guess its down
[10:47] <GiZiM> Im a newb on the kernel stuff i used Synaptic to reisntall the .15 Kernel but didnt take still .16
[10:47] <LordLimecat> why not just delete the modules
[10:47] <LordLimecat> worked for me
[10:47] <LordLimecat> tryin to remember exactly what i did
[10:47] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, you got it?
[10:47] <LordLimecat> but i know you can delete the modules no issue
[10:47] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: would you mind telling me how ?
[10:47] <LordLimecat> tryin to remember
[10:48] <LordLimecat>  find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "nvidia*"
[10:48] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar?
[10:48] <BiTMAP> anyone know a sam3 equivalent WebDJing software front end for Icecast/Shoutcast servers?
[10:48] <LordLimecat> i get 4, you may get more
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> negative BiTMAP
[10:49] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: still looking lol
[10:49] <gh0stid> nop i have 4
[10:49] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/volatile/nvidia_new.ko
[10:49] <gh0stid> /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/agp/nvidia-agp.ko
[10:49] <gh0stid> /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[10:49] <gh0stid> /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> beard nevermind about what i said
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> type this into terminal
[10:49] <LordLimecat> thats what i have
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> cd /etc/X11/
[10:49] <LordLimecat> and how it should be
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> grep Driver *
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> paste me the results in http://pastebin.caa
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> ack
[10:49] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: :/ :/ :/ anything else ?
[10:49] <LordLimecat> but when hes using the actual drivers, and the issue occurs, he may have 6
[10:49] <r00tintheb0x> paste me the results in http://pastebin.ca
[10:50] <LordLimecat> wait, who am i troubleshooting?
[10:50] <r00tintheb0x> god i love the sed command.
[10:50] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: well i think u were troubleshooting me .3 :
[10:50] <LordLimecat> oh o.0
[10:50] <LordLimecat> thought it was ziroday
[10:50] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: ziroday left
[10:50] <LordLimecat> but youre using nv now, right
[10:50] <GiZiM> Thanks alot, 2nd question can someone point me to a detailed page that will explain how to degrade the kernel. Im having some issues with the .16 Kernel (KBuntu Network Manger issues). I looked in Synaptic and i reinstalled the .15 Generics and Image but still no luck still on .16
[10:50] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: exactly
[10:51] <LordLimecat> ....gah, crdlb would know
[10:51] <LordLimecat> i probably know the commands, but not what they do
[10:51] <LordLimecat> if that makes sense
[10:51] <LordLimecat> ive done this before, but not enough to know which command it is :(
[10:51] <LordLimecat> do you know how to switch without rebooting?
[10:52] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, KBuntu Network Manger issues arent going  to be fixed by downgrading the kernel
[10:52] <LordLimecat> youre not afraid of commandline, right?
[10:52] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: u mean restarting x ?
[10:52] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, howabout that paste.
[10:52] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: not at all .. tell me what to do and ill
[10:52] <LordLimecat> i mean by stopping gdm, editing xorg.con from commandline, then restarting gdm
[10:52] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: its comming
[10:52] <r00tintheb0x> ok beardbar
[10:52] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: no big deal
[10:52] <LordLimecat> for starters, lets get you a commandline irc client
[10:52] <LordLimecat> JUST in case
[10:52] <r00tintheb0x> BitchX!!!
[10:52] <r00tintheb0x> w00t
[10:52] <gh0stid> lemme download bitchx
[10:52] <gh0stid> ;p
[10:53] <gh0stid> the best in the world . brb
[10:53] <LordLimecat> eh?
[10:53] <LordLimecat> irssi ftw?
[10:53] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: actully its not, after i grep Driver* it just hangs there
[10:53] <r00tintheb0x> ok beard
[10:53] <r00tintheb0x> do this
[10:53] <brett> so in installed ubuntu, and i have a ati x1950 card, and two monitors... one monitor is a clone of the other.. how would i change this? i did it through sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=above, but i want it to be horizontal.. like my primary is on the right, and the secondary is on the left...
[10:53] <r00tintheb0x> grep Driver xorg.conf
[10:53] <r00tintheb0x> do that one
[10:53] <Dackel> http://www.dackel-exil.com/
[10:53] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x I dude some searching - The KNetwork Manager is not searching for Wireless networks it is only seeing Wired. People are reporting that the .15 kernel works fine (Wireless was fine on the LiveCD) after the install it upgraded to the .16 Kernel and it stopped working. So people are reporting that if i downgrade it "Should" fix it.
[10:54] <GiZiM> Dude - Did sorry
[10:54] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: here we go
[10:54] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, no that isnt going to fix your problem.
[10:54] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[10:54] <brett> can anyone think of a way to help me?
[10:55] <LordLimecat> whats so great about bitchx o.0
[10:55] <r00tintheb0x> brett, i dont have much experience with ATI, sorry
[10:55] <LordLimecat> looks sort of like irssi
[10:55] <LordLimecat> but less good :D
[10:55] <GiZiM> Realtek i know that much give me a sec let me go to the website .. Realtek8187 i tink it was
[10:55] <brett> its cool r00tintheb0x
[10:55] <GiZiM> Wireless was perfect on the LiveCD but not after the install
[10:55] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: here it is http://pastebin.ca/550000
[10:55] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: im running irssi ;P just for u, what next ?
[10:55] <LordLimecat> alright
[10:55] <LordLimecat> this will kill gnome, and all programs, so save everthin :)
[10:56] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: no big deal
[10:56] <LordLimecat> then, switch to fullscreen terminal (ctrl+alt+f1), and issue the following commands
[10:56] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "vesa" to "i810"
[10:56] <LordLimecat> not till i say
[10:56] <ziroday> hey gh0stid_
[10:56] <gh0stid_> ziroday: yes ?
[10:56] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, you probably just need to modprobe the module for the wireless card
[10:56] <ziroday> gh0stid_ see your in LordLimecat hands lol
[10:56] <gh0stid_> ziroday: hehe u left so :/
[10:56] <LordLimecat> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:56] <LordLimecat> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:56] <ziroday> gh0stid_ : ill watch lol
[10:56] <LordLimecat> and change it to nvidia
[10:57] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: ok 2sec
[10:57] <gh0stid_> exit
[10:57] <LordLimecat> then save  (ctrl+o) and exit
[10:57] <LordLimecat> with ctrl+X
[10:57] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x What would cause it to work fine on the LiveCD but not after the install then.
[10:57] <ziroday> LordLimecat: if you do ctrl x its asks you to save too
[10:57] <LordLimecat> ...oh yea
[10:57] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: ok change made and saved
[10:57] <LordLimecat> nano should be installed by default :|
[10:57] <LordLimecat> not vim
[10:58] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, i think... /etc/modules differs on the cd
[10:58] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: ok, im back in console
[10:58] <flyinion_> hey ziro so I'm not sure exactly what I did right but I got X working again
[10:58] <LordLimecat> vim=WORST thing for beginners
[10:58] <GiZiM> mmm ok
[10:58] <r00tintheb0x> ok beardbar restart X11.
[10:58] <LordLimecat> alright
[10:58] <r00tintheb0x> it SHOULD bring you back up
[10:58] <LordLimecat> go ahead and shut down gdm
[10:58] <ziroday> flyinion_: great what did you do?
[10:58] <LordLimecat> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:58] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: im not beginer.. i know how vim work i love it ..
[10:58] <LordLimecat> oh, then more power to you :D
[10:58] <Wesley> Um I am looking for a straighforward ubuntu based distro thats geared specifically to business audience. That means I would like to see not just word processing and accounting software but also things like scribus.
[10:58] <LordLimecat> id end up deleting half the file before remembering i was in vim
[10:58] <Wesley> Are there any distroes like that?
[10:59] <nobody[idle] > How can I install .run files in Ubuntu?
[10:59] <ziroday> Wesley: you can install it after you install ubuntu
[10:59] <jrib> nobody[idle] : what are you trying to install?
[10:59] <magnetron> Wesley: Scribus is available in add/remove programs in the default ubuntu
[10:59] <gsuveg> re
[10:59] <flyinion_> just followed your steps for dpkg-reconfigure and after stepping through it somehow fixed it, all I did was add in 1440x900 resolution
[10:59] <ziroday> Wesley: otherwise no
[10:59] <r00tintheb0x> nobody[idle] , sh filetorun.run
[10:59] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: ok ive switched nv to nvidia what now ?
[10:59] <nobody[idle] > jrib Ati Drivers :>
[10:59] <LordLimecat> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restartr
[11:00] <jrib> !ati > nobody[idle]  (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:00] <LordLimecat> without the r @ end
[11:00] <ziroday> flyinion_: np, it was a misconfigured xorg.con file
[11:00] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x Well ive never used modprobe before so i guess i need to get searching
[11:00] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: lright
[11:00] <Wesley> Why isn't there a distribution out like this yet? With a focus on office and particularly office businesses.
[11:00] <LordLimecat> and tell me what happens
[11:00] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, what is the EXACT model of your wireless card.
[11:00] <gh0stid> back
[11:00] <nobody[idle] > Thanks jrib
[11:00] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x one sec
[11:00] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: just did it, what now ?
[11:00] <Xeonwales> hello!!!
[11:00] <ziroday> Wesley: dunno go to the ubuntu +1 channel and q's the develepors or ubuntu-offtopic channel
[11:00] <Wesley> As someone who runs a non profit organization we work with open source software almost exclusively and it would be nice if there were a distro that was aimed for organizations like ours.
[11:01] <r00tintheb0x> Wesley, they have 2 distros like that.
[11:01] <ziroday> Wesley: just install the software
[11:01] <r00tintheb0x> SuSE and Redhat.
[11:01] <Xeonwales> can anyone help me with a wireless card problem?? The problem is, it wont detect!!!! Cheers
[11:01] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x RTL8187
[11:01] <magnetron> Wesley: all the customers have different needs. ubuntu tries to meet the business needs. install ubuntu and install scribus
[11:01] <Wesley> Ah....but both those cost money dont they
[11:01] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, hold...
[11:01] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x Holdin
[11:01] <magnetron> Wesley: contact canonical, they will be glad to help you in a professional way
[11:02] <Wesley> canonical?
[11:02] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: nothing realy i switched to f7 , and i didnt even lost my application :/ ?
[11:02] <ziroday> gh0stid_: you have to restart x sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:02] <LordLimecat> o.0
[11:02] <gh0stid> ziroday:  just did it lol
[11:02] <LordLimecat> wierd
[11:02] <ziroday> gh0stid: woops sorry
[11:02] <magnetron> Canonical Ltd is the company who making the Ubuntu distribution
[11:02] <Wesley> the only thing that makes linux still impossible for me to install on all my computer is the lack of good easy way to use wireless networking with it
[11:02] <LordLimecat> ...you got a message that gdm restarted right?
[11:02] <Xeonwales> can anyone help me with a wireless card problem?? The problem is, it wont detect!!!! Cheers
[11:02] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: exaclt but now i just ctrl alt backspace
[11:03] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: to be sure..
[11:03] <Wesley> I just don't have the experience to install those drivers and most cards don't have any.
[11:03] <Wesley> but I will do that
[11:03] <Wesley> thank you.
[11:03] <magnetron> Wesley: the wireless support is just som much better in the new Ubuntu 7.04
[11:03] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, got a command line open?
[11:03] <monk1> who can help me with acer orbicam!
[11:03] <GiZiM> Sure do
[11:03] <r00tintheb0x> "lsmod |grep rt"
[11:03] <magnetron> !ask
[11:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:04] <GiZiM> Done
[11:04] <Wesley> do I have to go install drivers manually magentron or are they actually included this time
[11:04] <r00tintheb0x> did it return anything GiZiM ?
[11:04] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: ?
[11:04] <monk1> i have a problem with acer orbicam and driver gspca
[11:04] <magnetron> Wesley: depends on which wireless card you have.
[11:04] <flyinion_> ziroday: thx again for the help I'm off to see if I can mess things up now lol
[11:04] <GiZiM> lol ok dumb question but how do i send a privmsg in BitchX
[11:04] <GiZiM> lol sorry
[11:04] <ziroday> flyinion_: np glad you got it working bye
[11:05] <Wesley> well I was hoping theyd include at least the native drivers for linu
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> oh why are you in bitchx GiZiM ?
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x>  /msg user message
[11:05] <Wesley> because there are very few native drivers
[11:05] <ziroday> GiZiM: /msg <person> <message>
[11:05] <GiZiM> Im lazy im on my laptop sitting on the couch ssh'd into the box 5ft away
[11:05] <GiZiM> im lazy
[11:05] <GiZiM> Thanks
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, do you have X installed on it?
[11:05] <magnetron> Wesley: many manufacturers refuse to produce drivers for linux
[11:05] <ziroday> GiZiM: lol
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, just so that we're not wasting our time... we're trying to get your wireless adapter going right?
[11:06] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: have u quit?
[11:06] <danny3793> how do i get my MemoryStickProDuo stick to work? i stick it in my computer, the light goes green, and nothing happens
[11:06] <bmc3> Hey. Has anybody an idea how to set up Konqueror so that it always uses detail-view when one clicks on "home directory"
[11:06] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: ok change restart it comes to a blue screen, failed to start X Server (your graphical interface)
[11:06] <r00tintheb0x> bmc3, its somewhere in the options section
[11:06] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x Yes, its found in the lsmod
[11:06] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, you have i810 as your driver?
[11:06] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, what does "iwconfig" return?
[11:06] <bmc3> r00tintheb0x: I know this sounds stupid .. but when I choose "configure konqueror" i can't find it.
[11:06] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: i guess, thats what you had me put in
[11:07] <r00tintheb0x> bmc3, no... one sec... i'll get you a link.
[11:07] <bmc3> r00tintheb0x: Would you be so kind as to look it up?
[11:07] <bmc3> r00tintheb0x: Thank you very much!
[11:07] <gh0stid_> ziroday: are still present ?
[11:07] <GiZiM> It sees the ESSID im connected to
[11:07] <LordLimecat> what happened o.0
[11:07] <r00tintheb0x> bmc3, http://groups.google.com/group/comp.windows.x.kde/browse_thread/thread/03d4cadca65ae0b6/5bf4fb842c74fb1f
[11:07] <ziroday> gh0stid_: here
[11:07] <GiZiM> it sees everything its connected to the router but KNetwork Manger will not see anything nor allow me to set any settings to it
[11:07] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, i  need to know what the errors say
[11:07] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, what's ...
[11:07] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: fatal errorr restarting xwindow. no screen found
[11:07] <ziroday> gh0stid_: how did lordlimecat go?
[11:08] <nonever> hi there. i just installed ubuntu using the official desktop cd. everything went fine. then when i boot into the new system and switch to a virtual console, it floods with messages saying "hdc: drive not ready for command." hdc is my dvd-rom drive, the one I used to install ubuntu from. in gnome, nautilus thinks there's an empty cd-r in it, even though there's nothing. the drive's not usable at all. I'd appreciate any ideas.
[11:08] <r00tintheb0x>  /var/log/X.logblahblah say?
[11:08] <bmc3> r00tintheb0x: I would never thought of that. Thank you!
[11:08] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, what's iwconfig say?
[11:08] <mangaaddit> hey
[11:08] <r00tintheb0x> you're welcome bmc3
[11:08] <r00tintheb0x> hi mangaaddit
[11:08] <mangaaddit> just wondering does anyone know how to resize a linux partition from linux?
[11:08] <ziroday> gh0stid_: why dont you try putting a # in front of the "BusID" code in xorg?
[11:08] <GiZiM> wlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Dickinarouter"
[11:08] <GiZiM>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: 00:14:BF:F8:7E:FB
[11:08] <GiZiM>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2346 B
[11:08] <GiZiM>           Link Quality=42/64  Signal level=26/65
[11:08] <GiZiM>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[11:08] <GiZiM>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[11:08] <danny3793> how do i get fiesty to acknowledge my memory stick for my cell phone
[11:08] <GiZiM> flooooooood
[11:08] <r00tintheb0x> mangaaddit, i think gpartd does it.
[11:09] <gh0stid_> ziroday: i can try,gimme a sec
[11:09] <GiZiM> i really need to register
[11:09] <mangaaddit> ahh ok i'll try that
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, please use a paste bin.
[11:09] <LordLimecat> gh0stid_: were there any other mesages?
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, "dhclient wlan0"
[11:09] <gh0stid_> ziroday: same:/
[11:09] <LordLimecat> is it still up?
[11:09] <mangaaddit> does it come with ubuntu?
[11:09] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: yes gimme a second ill tell u
[11:09] <danny3793> GiZiM: id be more worried about your ESSID "IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Dickinarouter"" :)
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> mangaaddit, ues
[11:09] <GiZiM> lol
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> yes*
[11:09] <GiZiM> damnit :)
[11:09] <LordLimecat> gh0stid_: can you make a copy of the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> ? @ GiZiM
[11:10] <ziroday> gh0stid_: im gonna go cya
[11:10] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: gotta go back to X then .. ?
[11:10] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, i need your /var/log/Xorg.0.log log.
[11:10] <LordLimecat> no
[11:10] <gh0stid_> ziroday: thx for ur help
[11:10] <GiZiM> unknownhardware adress
[11:10] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: how am i supose to paste u the file then ?
[11:10] <LordLimecat> sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/xorglog.log
[11:10] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, you're using KDE?
[11:10] <LordLimecat> do that for now
[11:10] <ziroday> gh0stid_: lol dont think i did much but thanks lol, cya
[11:10] <GiZiM> yes
[11:10] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[11:11] <mangaaddit> how do i run it?
[11:11] <r00tintheb0x> whats the network manager for KDE called?
[11:11] <GiZiM> lol
[11:11] <LordLimecat> need a copy, because when you restart x the log is replaced
[11:11] <GiZiM> Wait...
[11:11] <gh0stid_> ok
[11:11] <alesan> hi
[11:11] <GiZiM> Getting this now DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
[11:11] <GiZiM> i had to sudo
[11:11] <LordLimecat> then, yes, change back to nv, and restart gdm
[11:11] <alesan> how do I install acrobat reader? I'm sorry I ndeed the original from adobe when it comes to print :(
[11:11] <LordLimecat> and pastebin the log
[11:11] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: done
[11:11] <LordLimecat> also,
[11:12] <LordLimecat> i suppose dmesg would help
[11:12] <LordLimecat> sudo dmesg
[11:12] <LordLimecat> anything relevant at the end?
[11:12] <r00tintheb0x> ah GiZiM i doubt it'll work.
[11:12] <r00tintheb0x> we need to get you out of managed mode.
[11:12] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: restarted X, using NV. coming with xchat brb
[11:12] <jrib> alesan: the medibuntu repo has packages for "acroread"
[11:12] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x mkay
[11:12] <jrib> !medibuntu > alesan (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:12] <alesan> thanks
[11:12] <r00tintheb0x> mangaaddit, http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=21688150
[11:13] <kadaz> how do I setup dual moniter support in ubuntu?
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, iwconfig
[11:13] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: back
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> DONT paste
[11:13] <LordLimecat> alright
[11:13] <LordLimecat> pastebin the log
[11:13] <rausb0> !w32codecs
[11:13] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:13] <LordLimecat> !paste
[11:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> just check to see if you have an ip addy GiZiM
[11:13] <GiZiM> You want me to paste??
[11:13] <GiZiM> lol
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> beardbar, how's it going
[11:13] <mangaaddit> thanks
[11:13] <mangaaddit> i'm a bit of a newb
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x>  :P @ GiZiM
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> no problem mangaaddit
[11:13] <LordLimecat> GiZiM: see link ^ ^ ^ ^
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> i'd rather teach one to fish and feed them for life, than to give them a fish and feed them for a day
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> w00t
[11:14] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: here u go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24681/
[11:14] <r00tintheb0x> LordLimecat, http://pastebin.ca is SUPER also.
[11:14] <GiZiM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24682/
[11:14] <BiTMAP> anyone install muse and then not have it appear in the applications list?
[11:14] <LordLimecat> r00tintheb0x: i just use whatever ubotu tells me
[11:14] <LordLimecat> he frees me from thought
[11:15] <GiZiM> No IP but its mainly because KNetwork Manger does not allow me to set any settings for the wireless just wired
[11:15] <r00tintheb0x> lol LordLimecat
[11:15] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, i know man. calm down.
[11:15] <puff> r00tintheb0x: Give a man a fire and he's warm for a night;  set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
[11:15] <LordLimecat> aaaahh i KNOW ive dealt with this
[11:15] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x I am calm you calm down
[11:15] <GiZiM> lol
[11:15] <danny3793> how can i get Ubuntu to acknowledge my memory stick?
[11:15] <r00tintheb0x> :P
[11:15] <LordLimecat> gh0stid even if i cant help you now....i KNOW crdlb can fix this
[11:15] <LordLimecat> but gimme a sec
[11:16] <LordLimecat> wait
[11:16] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x I should have gotten a iMac
[11:16] <GiZiM> lol
[11:16] <LordLimecat> have you rebooted since doing nvidia?
[11:16] <beardbar> r00tintheb0x:: sorry i fell asleep
[11:16] <LordLimecat> o.0
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, .... ima keel you!
[11:16] <puff> GiZiM: Why, you have a sore throat?
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> its ok beardbar
[11:16] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: thats really sad hes not online right now . i work in 3hrs, its 5am 15min here.. and i stil hasnt slept, yes i did reboot
[11:16] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x lol
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, why arent you using gnome?
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> just landed in KDE's lap?
[11:16] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x Because i heard guys that run KDE get all the chicks
[11:17] <r00tintheb0x> Gah!
[11:17] <r00tintheb0x> How true you are.
[11:17] <r00tintheb0x> Hince, my womanlessness
[11:17] <GiZiM> lol
[11:17] <LordLimecat> alright, i have a scheme
[11:17] <GiZiM> eh just liked KDE a bit more i guess
[11:17] <mangaaddit> lol i had to download and install gparted 0.o
[11:18] <LordLimecat> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-new
[11:18] <magnetron> !offtopic
[11:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:18] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x So you sure the .15 couldnt help or at this point could it hurt to try what other people have tried? im up for anything man anything!
[11:18] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: in process
[11:18] <LordLimecat> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[11:18] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, what is the name of the KDE program you're using to configure the network?
[11:18] <LordLimecat> dl that
[11:18] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: done
[11:18] <LordLimecat> and save to your home folder
[11:18] <LordLimecat> and make it executable
[11:18] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x KNetwork Manager
[11:18] <LordLimecat> thats the nvidia driver installer
[11:18] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, if you bare with me... you'll be up in no time.
[11:19] <r00tintheb0x> I sir, am a genius.
[11:19] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[11:19] <jin> it would be nice if when you try to remove a file not owned by you , you have the opportunity to enter the root password to delete it without firing up the terminal
[11:19] <keev> is there a good auto mp3 playing script for xchat?
[11:19] <LordLimecat> ive had it work where the nvidia-glx has failed
[11:19] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x All good bring it on teacher
[11:19] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: downloading how do i make it "runable"?
[11:19] <LordLimecat> want the gui method or cmdline?
[11:19] <mangaaddit> ok now how do i resize a linux partition or do i acutally have to do that in windows? since im using linux ?
[11:19] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x If you get me up and running i owe ya lots of beers and womens
[11:19] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: ur choice
[11:19] <LordLimecat> cmdline, chmod a+x ./NVIDIA............
[11:20] <r00tintheb0x> and goats
[11:20] <r00tintheb0x> dont ask.
[11:20] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: i knew this method ;P
[11:20] <GiZiM> Deal goats
[11:20] <LordLimecat> gui, rightclick-->properties-->permissions-->make executable
[11:20] <gh0stid> LordLimecat:  thx
[11:20] <juan278> mangaaddit: use a liveCD and backup 1st
[11:20] <sahil> in openoffice excel i need to print the 1st page number as 15 and don't want page number on the other pages, anyone can help me with this?
[11:20] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: run in a terminal ?
[11:20] <LordLimecat> not yet, itll fail
[11:20] <mangaaddict> nah i'm only playing around with this linux i've installed a bunch of stuff on it that i don't need so far it taken up 4 gb which is why i need to resize it
[11:20] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, iwconfig DOES show wlan0 right?
[11:21] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: lright what now?
[11:21] <LordLimecat> you need to switch to terminal, and  kill gdm
[11:21] <LordLimecat> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:21] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: in process
[11:21] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x Yupper did you see the pastebin? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24682/
[11:21] <LordLimecat> then run it as sudo
[11:21] <LordLimecat> then restart gdm
[11:21] <LordLimecat> itll do the xorg edit
[11:21] <LordLimecat> and force the proper modules to load
[11:21] <BiTMAP> ugh applications are not seeing my soundcard
[11:21] <BiTMAP> i gotta sleep though its like 3:30 am and i work.
[11:21] <gh0stid_> killed gdm
[11:21] <gh0stid_> running the file
[11:22] <GiZiM> I got a question everybody any idea on how to kill the 2nd boss in Twilight Princess?
[11:22] <GiZiM> lol
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, paste me your /etc/network/interfaces
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> por favor.
[11:22] <LordLimecat> GiZiM: which one is he
[11:22] <GiZiM> The fire guy with the chains
[11:22] <Katu> what is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[11:22] <LordLimecat> i can barely remember that
[11:22] <darwin81> Is there a way to convert a PDF file into a series of jpg images?
[11:22] <magnetron> !kubuntu
[11:22] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:22] <GiZiM> Kubuntu gets you chicks
[11:22] <juan278> ubuntu uses gnome kubuntu is better er i mean uses kde
[11:22] <LordLimecat> but im sure you pull on the chain somehow
[11:22] <LordLimecat> you ALWAYS have to pull on the chain
[11:23] <LordLimecat> give it a good yank
[11:23] <Katu> then what is difference between kde and gnome? both are same?
[11:23] <Moduliz0r> Huy guys, if I try and remove xserver-xorg-video-vmware why does it tell me to remove xserver-xord-video-all? Isn't that a standard video driver thing?
[11:23] <LordLimecat> oh, hes a giant, isnt he
[11:23] <BiTMAP> thats my chain! :|
[11:23] <LordLimecat> yea, wrap him up with teh chain
[11:23] <LordLimecat> trip hi,
[11:23] <GiZiM> ahhh ok thanks
[11:23] <LordLimecat> sudo apt-get chain
[11:23] <BiTMAP> Katu: yeah, same thing, just a diffrent front end
[11:23] <BiTMAP> KDE is like an acura
[11:23] <GiZiM> Vtec?
[11:23] <BiTMAP> same car, diffrent brand :P
[11:23] <mangaaddict> thanks for the help guys later all
[11:23] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: just a second. having a hard time to kill xwindows
[11:24] <juan278> Katu: gnome leaves everything as simple as possible, KDE gives you lots of options to set everything up
[11:24] <Katu> will i be able to install wifi card linksys wpc54g using ndiswrapper on both? kde and gnome?
[11:24] <LordLimecat> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:24] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24683/
[11:24] <LordLimecat> keep issuing it
[11:24] <LordLimecat> like 2-3 times
[11:24] <LordLimecat> it SHOULD tell you its stopping gdm
[11:24] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x you there
[11:24] <LordLimecat> wait, you ARE running gnome, right
[11:24] <r00tintheb0x> yep
[11:24] <darwin81> Katu : GNOME and KDE are Desktop environments. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[11:24] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: yes i do run gnome and it tell me it stoped gdm OK but .. still runing ;P
[11:24] <BiTMAP> ugh, obviously im not asleep yet, anyone know what i should do to make my onboard sound be recognized by advanced sound apps?
[11:24] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, are you on a windows box sshed into a lin box?
[11:24] <LordLimecat> hm -_-
[11:25] <DarkED> hey all, i have a question... my friend accidentally installed the x86_64 ubuntu 7.04 and he needs the i386 because he needs flash and some codecs which wont work on 64bit... is there any way he could change his repos and dist-upgrade to the i386?
[11:25] <LordLimecat> it should work...
[11:25] <LordLimecat> try restart, then stop
[11:25] <LordLimecat> switch back to gui, and ctrl-alt backspace, then go back to console
[11:25] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x You there ?
[11:25] <Katu> will i be able to install wifi card linksys wpc54g using ndiswrapper on both? kde and gnome?
[11:25] <juan278> is there any support for segfs in fiesty, or do i need to compile
[11:25] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, iwconfig eth0 mode Auto
[11:25] <LordLimecat> and issue the command, and try once more
[11:25] <GiZiM> Sorry dude had some BitchX issues
[11:25] <r00tintheb0x> do that
[11:25] <PriceChild> !flash64 | DarkED
[11:25] <ubotu> DarkED: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:25] <BiTMAP> Katu: if it works in one it should work in the other
[11:25] <LordLimecat> oh good lord its 5am
[11:26] <keev> sorry
[11:26] <DarkED> PriceChild: yes i know about that - it doesnt help
[11:26] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, are you on a windows box sshed into a lin box?
[11:26] <DarkED> PriceChild: he simply needs the i386
[11:26] <mayan>  hi
[11:26] <mayan>  all
[11:26] <mayan>  i am trying to use Canon LPB-3000 on ubuntu feisty
[11:26] <mayan>  but it needs a package libcupsys2-gnutls10
[11:26] <mayan>  this is a transitional package which is only available on dapper and earlier
[11:26] <GiZiM> Sadly
[11:26] <PriceChild> DarkED, why not?
[11:26] <mayan>  on later releases it is not available anymore
[11:26] <mayan>  but commercial drivers like canons need it apparently
[11:26] <GiZiM> ahhhh
[11:26] <darwin81> Is there a way to convert a PDF file into a series of jpg images?
[11:26] <PriceChild> DarkED, why "simply"?
[11:26] <Katu> what one is more popular? ubuntu or kubuntu? and more easier to use
[11:26] <PriceChild> !enter | mayan
[11:26] <ubotu> mayan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:26] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM, do you use any instant messengers?
[11:26] <mayan> can it be build easily again ?
[11:26] <DarkED> PriceChild: it's complicated but his system needs the i386 to do what he needs to use it for
[11:26] <GiZiM> I can
[11:26] <GiZiM> AIM?
[11:26] <r00tintheb0x> do you already use it?
[11:26] <PriceChild> DarkED, I don't believe you :P
[11:26] <mayan> sorry ubotu .. wont do it again
[11:26] <BiTMAP> Katu: ubuntu straight with the gnome interface is a bit easier
[11:27] <LordLimecat> gh0stid: are you able to get the nvidia installer going?
[11:27] <PriceChild> DarkED, if that's really true, then install the 32bit version of ubuntu, or do a chroot
[11:27] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[11:27] <Katu> BiTMAP: can you pm me please
[11:27] <LordLimecat> OH!
[11:27] <DarkED> PriceChild: ok, thats fine. however, the problem still remains that i need to get him to i386 and burning another iso is not an option
[11:27] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM?
[11:27] <LordLimecat> i know what to do
[11:27] <BiTMAP> Katu: sure but i dont know much
[11:27] <juan278> Katu: ubuntu is more popular, and easier to use but i prefer kubuntu alot so if you have plenty of HD space just install then both and see
[11:27] <GiZiM> Yeah i use AIM
[11:27] <LordLimecat> you there gh0stid
[11:27] <DarkED> PriceChild: he can go i386 by doing a chroot?
[11:27] <PriceChild> DarkED, then order one off of shipit or make a chroot
[11:27] <r00tintheb0x> i cant concentrate with all this chatter
[11:27] <Katu> BiTMAP: do you know how to use wifi card using ndiswrapper? i need serious help on it
[11:28] <BiTMAP> Katu: no i do not sorry.
[11:28] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: ..... is there another possible command to kill xwindows ?
[11:28] <BiTMAP> gh0stid ctrl alt backspace
[11:28] <DarkED> PriceChild: know a guide to what we'd be doing here? :)
[11:28] <juan278> !ndiswrapper
[11:28] <r00tintheb0x> GiZiM you get my PM?
[11:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:28] <gh0stid_> BiTMAP: it will reload it no ?
[11:28] <LordLimecat> gh0stid: yes, and its a doozy
[11:28] <BiTMAP> correct :|
[11:28] <juan278> katu try that link
[11:28] <LordLimecat> its gonna dump you into single user mode
[11:28] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x just messaged you on there
[11:28] <hrehf_> hm, im trying to get dual screens setup on ati - aticonfig complains that it can't write to xorg.conf (with sudo), even though the path is correct. What might cause that?
[11:28] <r00tintheb0x> ok signing in
[11:28] <LordLimecat> your irc prog will be killed, btw
[11:28] <PriceChild> !chroot | DarkED
[11:28] <ubotu> DarkED: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:28] <LordLimecat> here are the steps:
[11:29] <BiTMAP> Question about a realtek soundcard, anyone know a way to get the driver to work properly? I have sound just cant access the driver from apps (such as muse or JACK)
[11:29] <DarkED> PriceChild: thank you ma'am!
[11:29] <DarkED> :)
[11:29] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: listening
[11:29] <LordLimecat> sudo init 1....sudo /home/[yourusername] /NVIDIAdriverprog......sudo init 5
[11:29] <LordLimecat> after that last init, gdm SHOULD restart
[11:29] <PriceChild> DarkED, steady ;)
[11:29] <LordLimecat> and you should be able to run irc
[11:29] <LordLimecat> i cant remember if irc progs work in singleuser mode
[11:29] <LordLimecat> but they SHOULD
[11:30] <LordLimecat> my brains not working right now sorry :(
[11:30] <gh0stid_> just a sec, it cant be that hard to kill xwindows..
[11:30] <LordLimecat> this will work
[11:30] <LordLimecat> single usermode has no gui
[11:30] <GiZiM> r00tintheb0x ok one sec im on a Sidekick takes a min
[11:30] <LordLimecat> pity ubuntu doesnt have a runlevel 3
[11:30] <Katu> ubotu: will you be able to help me with ndiswrapper, i have been to that link you showed me
[11:30] <r00tintheb0x> oh damn nevermind
[11:30] <GiZiM> No its cool
[11:31] <GiZiM> i  can multi task like a mofo
[11:31] <BiTMAP> cya
[11:31] <LordLimecat> i can multitask my multiple tasks o.0
[11:31] <gh0stid_> LordLimecat: ok so tell me again plz ? il ost it, too much text on such a small resolution
[11:31] <LordLimecat> sudo init 1
[11:31] <juan278> Katu: ubotu is a bot so he cant
[11:31] <LordLimecat> then sudo /home/[yourusername] /NVIDIA_driver....
[11:31] <Katu> oh sorry
[11:31] <LordLimecat> then sudo init 5
[11:32] <Katu> juan can you help me please
[11:32] <juan278> ive never used it so i duobt it
[11:32] <mohsin> hi'
[11:32] <mohsin> exit
[11:33] <juan278> Katu: get the ndiswrapper utils thought the repos
[11:34] <Katu> juan i am using suse currently
[11:34] <Katu> is it same?
[11:34] <Katu> repos on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:34] <kanzie> when running dual-head with my X1300 I get two X and can move mouse between but not windows. Why?
[11:34] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: not good, init1, make me lose internet and block me from doing a lot of thing . :/ what else ?
[11:35] <hub_> can any where german msg me ?
[11:35] <LordLimecat> gh0stid: did you run the installer?
[11:35] <LordLimecat> it kills x, though
[11:35] <juan278> ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repos but go with ubuntu alternate cd to be safe as it coems with ndiswrapper
[11:35] <_tilman> How to convert video into flash (swf) under linux ?
[11:35] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: i cant, it always say that my x is running, want me to do init1 again the run the installer and come back here ?
[11:35] <hub_> can any where german msg me ?
[11:35] <LordLimecat> yes
[11:36] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: brb then
[11:36] <CheshireViking> !de | hub_
[11:36] <ubotu> hub_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:36] <LordLimecat> x will not be running in init
[11:36] <LordLimecat> 1
[11:37] <magnetron> _tilman: there is a tool called ffmpeg. you can use that
[11:37] <zcat[1] > anyone know how to turn off the tap-to-click thing on a laptop touchpad?
[11:37] <juan278> Katu: actually reading this howto ud be best to install off the desktop cd for ubuntu
[11:39] <_tilman> magnetron thx
[11:39] <zcat[1] > moof
[11:42] <RifleEyes> =\
[11:43] <RifleEyes> i dont think ubuntu likes me, ever
[11:43] <PriceChild> RifleEyes, give it some lovin' :)
[11:43] <UnhandledExcepti> ubuntu likes humanity !!
[11:43] <RifleEyes> i've tried lots =(
[11:44] <PriceChild> what's up?
[11:44] <RifleEyes> i kept getting the xserver error
[11:44] <RifleEyes> and somehow i got away from that
[11:44] <RifleEyes> it happened before, i think (i've had many problems trying to install ubuntu)
[11:45] <RifleEyes> im using the 6.06 LTS livecd
[11:45] <RifleEyes> i have yet to install it, but i fear when i do, it'll just mess up more. like last time.
[11:45] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: i foudn a way, but it say that i dont have the libs
[11:46] <mario_> halo
[11:46] <LordLimecat> hmmm
[11:46] <LordLimecat> which libs?
[11:47] <RifleEyes> alright so, quick question. if i install ubuntu now, do you think i'll get the same xserver error? since i somehow got past it now
[11:47] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: start by saying : no precompiled kernel ........ then i press yes to ( download from nvidia ftp )
[11:47] <RifleEyes> because i dont know how i got past it.
[11:47] <LordLimecat> right,....
[11:47] <LordLimecat> thats normal
[11:47] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: it doesnt find any
[11:47] <LordLimecat> thats normal
[11:47] <scorp123> Hi all ...
[11:48] <LordLimecat> it then compiles one
[11:48] <LordLimecat> and should ask if you want it to edit your xorg
[11:48] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: then it say : u doesnt apear to have libc header bla bla bla
[11:48] <LordLimecat> :\
[11:48] <scorp123> Question: When I install 1 system ... how can I carry over the list of packages I installed there to a second system (so it installs the same packages as on the 1st system) ??
[11:48] <LordLimecat> im sorry man, im at the end of what i can do for now....
[11:48] <gh0stid> please install ur libc package for ur distribution
[11:48] <r00tintheb0x_> GiZiM, msg me on aim again... lost inet connection...brb
[11:49] <gh0stid> LordLimecat:  this is the message i get..
[11:49] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: :/ ?
[11:50] <RifleEyes> oh, i remember how i got past it
[11:50] <craigbass1976> semi good news folks.  After two days, I think I've got Ubuntu installed.  I get dumped into a grub prompt at boot, but when I boot to a DSL cd and check the drive, there's a filesystems there.
[11:50] <LordLimecat> yea...but try apt-get install libc6
[11:50] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: k
[11:50] <LordLimecat> thats all i can give you for now, tho, i have to sleep
[11:51] <r00tintheb0x_> GiZiM, hit me on aim
[11:51] <craigbass1976> Did UBuntu write grub to the MBR? I don't remember choosing, and I don't see any grub in the /boot folder
[11:51] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: not working :/ well i guess, thx u anyway .. thats pain :/ but well .. theres no answer to this problem i think
[11:51] <LordLimecat> there is
[11:51] <LordLimecat> crdlb will solve it with one command
[11:52] <LordLimecat> im just not experienced enough :(
[11:52] <LordLimecat> and i need sleep
[11:52] <r00tintheb0x_> LordLimecat, what is the issue?
[11:52] <r00tintheb0x_> i can probably help
[11:52] <gh0stid> LordLimecat: think u could get him mail me or something ? i dont really want to restart from begining once again tomorrow :/
[11:52] <LordLimecat> r00tintheb0x_: when he activates nvidia, heres the log of xorg
[11:52] <r00tintheb0x_> who needs libc?
[11:52] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24681/
[11:53] <r00tintheb0x_> okay
[11:53] <LordLimecat> he also needs libc to riun the nvidia.com installer script
[11:53] <r00tintheb0x_> im REAL good @ this
[11:53] <LordLimecat> i wanted him to run that because it seems to work at times when nvidia-glx doesnt
[11:53] <r00tintheb0x_> cool, i'll get em fixed up. Who is it?
[11:53] <gh0stid> please r00tintheb0x_ fix my problem .. :/i tried so many thing .. make 3day now im working on it ..
[11:53] <LordLimecat> also, as a side note, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop doesnt seem to kill x for him o.0
[11:54] <LordLimecat> i had to get him to do init 1 to run the nvidia installer script
[11:54] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid, paste my your xorg log to http://pastebin.ca
[11:54] <LordLimecat> r00tintheb0x_:
[11:54] <LordLimecat> that IS his xorg log :)
[11:54] <LordLimecat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24681/
[11:54] <r00tintheb0x_> oh nevermind
[11:54] <r00tintheb0x_> it finally came up
[11:54] <r00tintheb0x_> took forever
[11:54] <LordLimecat> from when his issue occcured
[11:54] <r00tintheb0x_> oh thats easy LordLimecat
[11:54] <LordLimecat> find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "nvidia*" also only finds 4 modules
[11:54] <LordLimecat> i hate you :(
[11:54] <LordLimecat> what did i miss
[11:55] <r00tintheb0x_> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[11:55] <LordLimecat> modprobe?
[11:55] <gh0stid> not working
[11:55] <r00tintheb0x_> duno, lets see
[11:55] <LordLimecat> (im still a linux newbie)
[11:55] <LordLimecat> sort of
[11:55] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid, "lsmod |grep nvidia"
[11:55] <gh0stid> it say theres no nvidia.ko file or directory
[11:55] <LordLimecat> oh, lol, i had him remove nvidia-glx
[11:56] <LordLimecat> to install with the nvidia script
[11:56] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid, if you want it fixed i need quick replies
[11:56] <gh0stid> yes im starting from scratch again
[11:56] <r00tintheb0x_> and for you to do what i sugguest
[11:56] <r00tintheb0x_> :)
[11:56] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x_: np,but im in command line right now its kind of hard to copy past the result. wouldyou please gimme 2secimma switch to "nv" and load xwindows. k?
[11:57] <r00tintheb0x_> okay
[11:57] <bauer_> hello , my onkel has bought an old computer with ubuntu linux installed. He has a modem, but he can't figure out how to set it up.
[11:57] <r00tintheb0x_> no problem gh0stid
[11:57] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x_: thx
[11:57] <r00tintheb0x_> bauer_, do you see it in the gnome network manager?
[11:57] <r00tintheb0x_> GiZiM, you there?
[11:57] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: ok what now ?
[11:58] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid "lsmod |grep nvidia
[11:58] <r00tintheb0x_> "
[11:58] <r00tintheb0x_> just what is in the " 's
[11:58] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo lsmod |grep nvidia
[11:58] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[11:58] <gh0stid_> nothing
[11:58] <scorp123> Question: When I install 1 system ... how can I carry over the list of packages I installed there to a second system (so it installs the same packages as on the 1st system) ??
[11:58] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid "sudo updatedb && locate nvidia.ko"
[11:59] <r00tintheb0x_> scorp123, you need some kind of kickstart config
[11:59] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: blinking cursor
[11:59] <Frogzoo> scorp123: dpkg --get-selections
[11:59] <r00tintheb0x_> scorp123, im not sure about ubuntu's utilitity... but im sure it has a function like that
[11:59] <r00tintheb0x_> good gh0stid give it a sec.
[11:59] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: its done
[11:59] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid did it find it?
[11:59] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: nothing
[12:00] <r00tintheb0x_> cool
[12:00] <scorp123> Frogzoo: yes, I found out about that.
[12:00] <bauer_> r00tintheb0x_, they just start the computer up now , and have to phone mee from another phone.
[12:00] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid
[12:00] <r00tintheb0x_> oops
[12:00] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid  "aptitude search nvidia"
[12:00] <scorp123> Frogzoo: And I heard about "dpkg --set-selections ..."
[12:00] <r00tintheb0x_> look to the left for i's
[12:01] <scorp123> Frogzoo: but is there a way to feed this list to "apt-get install" and trigger the downloads?
[12:01] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: thers a few, what im looking for ?
[12:01] <r00tintheb0x_> i - installed
[12:01] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid what there is installed?
[12:01] <gh0stid_> i   nvidia-kernel-common            - NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[12:01] <gh0stid_> thats it
[12:01] <r00tintheb0x_> ok
[12:02] <r00tintheb0x_> one sec gh0stid
[12:02] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: np
[12:02] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid "sudo aptitude -y install nvidia-glx"
[12:03] <kenthomson> afflux, ?
[12:03] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: in process but i think my geforce fx5700 belong to glx-new ?
[12:03] <kenthomson> afflux, /join #afflux
[12:03] <r00tintheb0x_> that may be so, let me check
[12:03] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: end of command is on hold. let me know when pressing enter
[12:04] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid where did you get "glx-new"?
[12:04] <gh0stid_> froma list lemme a sec.
[12:04] <r00tintheb0x_> ok
[12:04] <LordLimecat> r00tintheb0x_: he means nvidia-glx-new
[12:04] <r00tintheb0x_> oh LordLimecat ty
[12:04] <LordLimecat> :)
[12:04] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: yes sorry ..
[12:04] <LordLimecat> just to possibly save you some time, we had that installed earlier
[12:04] <TyphoidHippo> Hey guys, I have searched myself retarded, and I am just completely at a loss here.  What I want to do is some kind of software pxe boot for a thin client.  I have read stories of people doing it, but absolutely no details.  Anybody who can help me with that in here?
[12:05] <LordLimecat> thats when we got that mesage
[12:05] <scorp123> !clone
[12:05] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[12:05] <scorp123> LOL ... sometimes the solutions are so simple: just ask a bot ... :)
[12:05] <r00tintheb0x_> ok gh0stid
[12:05] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: this is the website i was speakign of
[12:05] <gh0stid_> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[12:05] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid "aptitude purge nvidia-glx && aptitude -y install nvidia-glx-new"
[12:06] <r00tintheb0x_> ok gh0stid, thanks but im very good @ this.
[12:06] <r00tintheb0x_> i've done it literaly 50 times
[12:06] <LordLimecat> gh0stid--cya, gl, im goin to bed'
[12:06] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: loading, btw thx for ur time
[12:07] <steel_lady> we have a bih problem with partitions
[12:07] <r00tintheb0x_> no problem gh0stid, i know how frusterating it can be to be stuck with a problem for 3 days
[12:07] <r00tintheb0x_> steel_lady, whats the problem.
[12:07] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: done
[12:07] <r00tintheb0x_> ok gh0stid
[12:07] <barata> hi guys, I've just upgraded and now my / is bloated up to almost 11GB
[12:07] <PriceChild> barata, sudo apt-get clean
[12:07] <barata> where actually all those caches that I can just remove?
[12:08] <barata> ok ... thanks PriceChild
[12:08] <barata> still the same PriceChild
[12:08] <eljak> hi, i realized that i cant run beryl with flubox, and i still dont have gnome or kde, so i was wondering if i can run beryl without them? anybody can recommend something?
[12:08] <steel_lady> it is a computer of my friend. there a lot of things, it very complex, now I will tell you r00tintheb0x
[12:09] <sebrock> how do I change the text encoding in the terminal to use swedish letters...+
[12:09] <jrib> eljak: why not get gnome or kde?
[12:09] <bauer_> r00tintheb0x_, how to start gnome network manager ?
[12:09] <r00tintheb0x_> ok gh0stid change NV back to nvidia
[12:09] <r00tintheb0x_> or nv back to nvidia
[12:09] <gh0stid_> lright
[12:09] <SirronTM> I think I need to file a bug report about a chipset on my motherboard not being supported, can anyone tell me where to begin? I've never done a bug report before
[12:09] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x he had win and ubuntu. he went to repair win. and firs after the reinstallation of win it didn't detect the shared partition
[12:09] <r00tintheb0x_> bauer_, its under system>administration>network
[12:09] <Tanaric> Hello, I'm wondering how I can find out when boost 1.34 will added to Feisty. I checked backports but it doesn't seem to be there. It seems the sort of thing that would happen fairly quickly.
[12:10] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x  with that of course happened the thing that he lost the bootloader for linux
[12:10] <r00tintheb0x_> steel_lady, i cant understand you... please take your time and retype that.
[12:10] <r00tintheb0x_> ok
[12:10] <TyphoidHippo> The deal is:  I have this laptop that has no way of booting except for it's own hard drive.  I had to install linux on that drive using a different machine, and then put the drive into this laptop and tinker with it to get everything to work - but - this laptop is a total piece, and I'd much rather just use it like  a thinclient - but it's network interface doesn't support PXE - so if I could just find some kind 
[12:10] <r00tintheb0x_> so steel_lady your bootloader is gone?
[12:10] <eljak> jrib: i always used fluxbox and dont like gnome and kde so i was wondering if i can run beryl without them i wanted something like fluxbox in 3D :)
[12:10] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: done with nv to nvidia, what now ?
[12:10] <r00tintheb0x_> TyphoidHippo, XDMCP
[12:11] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x he had win and ubuntu. win had problems, he reinstalled it. but after reinstallation win didn't see the shared partition of 50G
[12:11] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid "/etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[12:11] <craigbass1976> jrib, you're up already?  Where are you?
[12:11] <gh0stid_> ctrl alt backspace is ok ?
[12:11] <r00tintheb0x_> steel_lady, you mean you didnt see the Ubuntu partition.
[12:11] <r00tintheb0x_> And you lost the option to boot into linux steel_lady ?
[12:11] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid yes
[12:11] <jrib> Tanaric: maybe you can request a backport?
[12:12] <jrib> craigbass1976: hmm?
[12:12] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x no it sees the ubuntu partition but it does not see the shared partition with no os. and it says there is some error in partition table
[12:12] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: same problem :/ no screen found
[12:12] <r00tintheb0x> oh...
[12:12] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, "updatedb && locate nvidia.ko
[12:12] <r00tintheb0x> "
[12:13] <jrib> eljak: you can do some transparency stuff with xcompmgr but I'm not sure that is still being developed.  Maybe #fluxbox has a better recommendation
[12:13] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady, is it a NTFS or EXT3 partition?
[12:13] <r00tintheb0x> or something else?
[12:13] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x it is FAT32
[12:13] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: still find nothing
[12:13] <bauer_> r00tintheb0x, take some time to find
[12:13] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady, have you tried chkdsk on it from windows?
[12:13] <r00tintheb0x> ok gh0stid
[12:13] <r00tintheb0x> we're going to do it MY way.
[12:13] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x yes but it doesn't see the partition
[12:13] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: np as long it fix that damn problem :)
[12:13] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, are you registered with nickserv on here?
[12:14] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: im sorry im not didnt took time to .
[12:14] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[12:14] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[12:14] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x partition magin doesn't see it either
[12:14] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude search nvidia
[12:14] <r00tintheb0x> then gh0stid remove all the nvidia related packages
[12:14] <eljak> jrib: i guess i will get kde, thank you anyway :)
[12:14] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady, what does "fdisk -l
[12:14] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: everything that has a i - ?
[12:14] <r00tintheb0x> bring back in linux?
[12:15] <r00tintheb0x> yes gh0stid
[12:15] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: ok
[12:15] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid,
[12:15] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x, can you tell me in the meantime when you boot with live ubuntu how to see al the partitions from it?
[12:15] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude -y purge packagename packagename
[12:15] <r00tintheb0x> like that
[12:15] <gh0stid> thx
[12:16] <craigbass1976> jrib, hey I got ubuntu installed I think.  I end up at a grub prompt.  Booted to a DSL cd and found what looks to be a filesystem on the hard drive.
[12:16] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: done
[12:16] <TyphoidHippo> r00tintheb0x:  Thanks for the attention - I have come across that in my searching.  Could you just briefly list what part of that system goes on which machine (does it use GDM, and if so, is it done as a special kind of session on a local GDM, or configured to use GDM on the server?), and I'll just figure the rest out.  Thanks again.  Sorry if I didn't state my question in a way that makes sense, too...
[12:16] <r00tintheb0x> just boot
[12:16] <paxbug> ~
[12:16] <r00tintheb0x> and open ip gpartf steel_lady
[12:16] <craigbass1976> jrib, now I wonder where to find grub.conf, as it's not in /boot.  Doe ubuntu install to MBR?
[12:17] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, do "aptitude search nvidia" again and check for I's
[12:17] <jrib> craigbass1976: it should, but maybe it failed
[12:17] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: none
[12:17] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x I don't understand you I probably missed something
[12:18] <craigbass1976> jrib, Ubuntu failed, or grub failed?  Grub is somewhere, because it comes up when I boot.
[12:18] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: theres no I neigher i, only p v
[12:18] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady, its under your system admin utilities when you boot into gnome from the CD
[12:18] <jrib> craigbass1976: hmm, but it doesn't list any kernels?
[12:19] <r00tintheb0x> ok gh0stid
[12:19] <r00tintheb0x> what does "uname -a" return?
[12:19] <gh0stid> 2.6.20-15 i686
[12:19] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[12:20] <TyphoidHippo> ahhh shit, I figured it out.  Never mind r00tintheb0x,  Thanks for your help!
[12:20] <r00tintheb0x> cool TyphoidHippo no prob
[12:20] <gh0stid> i cant use -16 before u ask .. it block on first square of loading .
[12:20] <craigbass1976> jrib, no, just the prompt.  I see a kernel in ub's boot folder, but no menu.lst
[12:21] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, "aptitude -y install linux-headers-2.6.20-15 build-essential"
[12:21] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: k
[12:21] <r00tintheb0x> it done?
[12:21] <r00tintheb0x> then type  "cd"
[12:22] <jrib> craigbass1976: yeah, it should have created /boot on the same partition as /.  I'll link you to grub docs and if that doesn't work, try lilo
[12:22] <jrib> !grub > craigbass1976 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:22] <steel_lady>  in my laptop I only see it in system monitor,  r00tintheb0x. is there any way to load them since I think live CD will not recognize them automathically?
[12:22] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: w8 doing it
[12:23] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady, what is "them"
[12:23] <r00tintheb0x> ?
[12:23] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: erm, theres no build-essentials:/
[12:23] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x, windows partition and shared partition
[12:24] <r00tintheb0x> steell lady... boot to the ubuntu live CD and come back to me.
[12:24] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, "aptitude -y install linux-headers-2.6.20-15 build-essential"
[12:24] <r00tintheb0x> S there
[12:24] <r00tintheb0x> build-essential
[12:24] <blackest> can i use locate on a windows drive ?
[12:24] <r00tintheb0x> blackest, if its indexed... yes
[12:25] <blackest> is there a way to force it to be indexed ?
[12:25] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: even without the s theres none theres : -386 -generic -lowlatency -server -serverbigiron
[12:25] <r00tintheb0x> blackest, /etc/updatedb.conf
[12:26] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and take all the #'s out from in front of lines that start with "deb"
[12:26] <gh0stid> just a sec plz
[12:26] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[12:27] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[12:27] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: once its done do i have to do an update or something ?
[12:28] <erUSUL> gh0stid: yes you have to run aptitude update or apt-get update
[12:29] <Katu> anyone tell me how to delete the folder ndiswrapper under /etc/
[12:29] <erUSUL> gh0stid: so new index are dl and taken into account
[12:29] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: done, and loading but its not loading the -15 its loading the 16
[12:29] <mc44> Katu: why do you want to delete it?
[12:29] <erUSUL> Katu: sudo rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper  (if you are realy sure)
[12:29] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: ok its installed what now ?
[12:29] <Katu> because i am trying to install ndiswrapper driver to make my wificard work
[12:30] <mc44> Katu: right, why do you need to delete the folder?
[12:30] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[12:30] <tictacaddict> On my laptop, network manager says I'm connected to my network, but the connection information dialog shows no IP Address etc.  I can't access the internet.  Why might this happen?  I have an intel wireless chipset and wired networking is fine.
[12:30] <r00tintheb0x> build essential is installed?
[12:30] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: seems to
[12:30] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude search build-essential
[12:30] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: k
[12:31] <r00tintheb0x> i ?
[12:31] <r00tintheb0x> does it have an I by it?
[12:31] <barata> 11GB of linux and I dont know how to clean it up :((
[12:31] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x:  yes it does
[12:31] <r00tintheb0x> ok, cd /root
[12:31] <barata> to root?
[12:31] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: done
[12:31] <r00tintheb0x> no, that is for gh0stid
[12:31] <barata> ok
[12:32] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, "wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run"
[12:32] <gh0stid> hopefully i have it already
[12:32] <gh0stid> so i wont have to type it again ;)
[12:32] <r00tintheb0x> oh
[12:32] <r00tintheb0x> hehe, that'd be good
[12:32] <mc44> !
[12:32] <r00tintheb0x> hi mc44
[12:32] <mc44> why are you using the nvidia.com drivers?!
[12:33] <erUSUL> r00tintheb0x: that version driver can be instaled via 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new'
[12:33] <r00tintheb0x> because he said he wants it to work.
[12:33] <r00tintheb0x> i know but we couldn't get it working.
[12:33] <mc44> well, downloading the nvidia drivers isn't going to fix it
[12:33] <r00tintheb0x> do you have to have kernel-headers installed for the APT version to work mc44 ?
[12:33] <mc44> no
[12:33] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[12:33] <mc44> they are already compliled, thats the whole point
[12:33] <r00tintheb0x> i know, thats what i thought
[12:34] <pukeko> hardware raid vs software raid ... i have a aic7860 scsi card in a poweredge 2300, should i use the card for raid management or use mdadm to handle it ?  the box has 512RAM and is dual 333
[12:34] <fortitUs> hi, is there a way to make vmstat return the idle cpu percentage only?
[12:34] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: what now ?
[12:34] <r00tintheb0x> Ok gh0stid they're right.
[12:34] <r00tintheb0x> we should use apt to do it.
[12:34] <fortitUs> like vmstat and it returns 97%
[12:34] <r00tintheb0x> but, wait.
[12:34] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: we can do it again .. but i did it .. erm 5time maybe more
[12:34] <r00tintheb0x> mc44, when you "apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" shouldn't it provice nvidia.ko ?
[12:35] <mc44> gh0stid: what card do you have?
[12:35] <r00tintheb0x> 5700
[12:35] <gh0stid> mc44 geforce v9570 fx 5700 256meg agp
[12:35] <r00tintheb0x> whois mc44
[12:35] <r00tintheb0x> oops
[12:35] <r00tintheb0x> i just wanted to see what other chans you idled in
[12:35] <r00tintheb0x> i find some interesting ones like that.
[12:36] <erUSUL> pukeko: it seems that the card is quite capable... maybe hw raid is better in this case dunno for sure
[12:36] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, are you not in X right now.
[12:36] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, get back into X, change nvidia back to nv.
[12:36] <gh0stid> again ?
[12:36] <r00tintheb0x> i'll type one command you can paste to get this finished man.
[12:36] <r00tintheb0x> bare with me.
[12:36] <gh0stid> fine
[12:37] <r00tintheb0x> if you'd like someone else to do it feel free gh0stid
[12:37] <pukeko> erUSUL: yeah i can't decide .. box headless ...
[12:37] <mc44> gh0stid: did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[12:37] <r00tintheb0x> mc44, no he changed the module name manually.
[12:37] <tarzeau> anyone playe www.sauerbraten.org join #distro-clan-wars ?
[12:38] <r00tintheb0x> nope
[12:38] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: loading X, mc44 i did sudo nvidia-xconfig enable, as said in many forums and manual
[12:38] <mc44> gh0stid: and what error did you get?
[12:39] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x: im in X
[12:39] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid okay.
[12:39] <r00tintheb0x> ready
[12:39] <gh0stid_> always
[12:40] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude -y install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common
[12:40] <r00tintheb0x> wait
[12:40] <r00tintheb0x> dont do it yet.
[12:40] <gh0stid_> ok
[12:40] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude -y install nvidia-glx-new nvidia-xconfig nvidia-settings nvidia-kernel-common && modprobe nvidia && updatedb && locate nvidia.
[12:40] <r00tintheb0x> ok paste all that
[12:40] <r00tintheb0x> lolo
[12:41] <pbx> I'm setting up a 6.06 server for the first time. If want to include make more modern packages (e.g. Python 2.5, Apache 2.2) visible to apt-get, what do I need to enable?
[12:41] <gh0stid_> loading
[12:42] <r00tintheb0x> k
[12:42] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x:  lets pray :)
[12:42] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x, we are in live CD. the idea es to start the installation and fix partition from the dialog from the installation in ubuntu. So we go to manually edit partitions and there it sees only the whole hard disk that actually has partitions buntu, shared FAT32 and win. but it doesn't show them. is it possible to fix it this way somehow?
[12:42] <erUSUL> pbx: the oly option to get that is to enable dapper-backports or use a more recent distro if they whare not backported
[12:43] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady, open up a term window
[12:43] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid no need for praying
[12:43] <steel_lady> and then?
[12:43] <pbx> erUSUL: Thanks. This is a VPS so the distro is fixed.
[12:43] <mc44> r00tintheb0x: you can just do "lsmod | grep nvidia" to see if the module is loaded
[12:43] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x: u sure it will work ?
[12:43] <r00tintheb0x> yep
[12:43] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x: ok its alld one, what next ?
[12:44] <r00tintheb0x> i know mc44 but as of now i know its not.
[12:44] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[12:44] <gh0stid_> nothing
[12:44] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid did the search for "nvidia." come back w/anything"?
[12:44] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo lsmod |grep nvidia
[12:44] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[12:45] <mc44> gh0stid_: sudo modprobe nvidia && lsmod | grep nvidia
[12:45] <r00tintheb0x> updatedb && locate nvidia. (notice the period"
[12:45] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x:  theres a few
[12:45] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid i hope you're root
[12:45] <r00tintheb0x> right?
[12:46] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x what do I write in terminal?
[12:46] <erUSUL> r00tintheb0x: installing the module does not load it you have to reboot X to force the loading or load it explicity like mc44 is proposing
[12:46] <gh0stid_> not loged as root, thats why i use sudo
[12:46] <r00tintheb0x> steel_lady,
[12:46] <r00tintheb0x> fdisk -l
[12:46] <r00tintheb0x> thanks erUSUL i know this
[12:46] <r00tintheb0x> i can modprobe it though and lsmod it
[12:46] <r00tintheb0x> it doesn't mean its initialized though
[12:47] <heinz> hi@all!
[12:47] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid "locate nvidia.o"
[12:47] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid "locate nvidia.ko"
[12:47] <steel_lady> r00tintheb0x it does not give anything
[12:47] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo find / -name nvidia.ko
[12:47] <gh0stid_> /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:47] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[12:48] <erUSUL> steel_lady: are you on feisty livecd?
[12:48] <r00tintheb0x> ok gh0stid
[12:48] <tictacaddict> Now network manager just seems unable to connect.  It sees my wireless network, but when I select it, it just tries to connect for a while and gives up.  An other computer (WinXP) connects fine.  What am I missing?
[12:48] <r00tintheb0x> modprobe nvidia
[12:48] <steel_lady> no anterior
[12:48] <edit_21> hi all
[12:48] <r00tintheb0x> hi edit_21
[12:48] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:48] <gh0stid_> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:48] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[12:48] <edit_21> any cod2 et, ut2k4 etc players here ?
[12:48] <r00tintheb0x> ok gh0stid hold
[12:49] <PriceChild> !offtopic | edit_21
[12:49] <ubotu> edit_21: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:49] <edit_21> we are setting up some clan wars
[12:49] <erUSUL> steel_lady: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda if it is the first disk
[12:49] <PriceChild> edit_21, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:49] <edit_21> PriceChild, cool ty
[12:49] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid "depmod -a"
[12:49] <steel_lady> erUSUL we lost partitions, we do not know which is which and the systam doesn't even see it
[12:50] <erUSUL> steel_lady: that will list the partitions of the first disk... post it to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:50] <igli>  #distro-clan-wars when you're ready; gentoo v debian v ??
[12:50] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo depmod -a
[12:50] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[12:50] <r00tintheb0x> lsmod |grep nvi
[12:50] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo lsmod |grep nvi
[12:50] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo lsmod |grep nvi*
[12:50] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[12:51] <r00tintheb0x> okay... hold on
[12:51] <r00tintheb0x> try
[12:51] <r00tintheb0x> modprobe nvidia again
[12:51] <erUSUL> steel_lady: if you are sure about it you can use gpart it is an utility that can scan a disk an gues a partition table for it....
[12:51] <erUSUL> !info gpart | steel_lady
[12:51] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:51] <gh0stid_> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:51] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[12:51] <ubotu> steel_lady: gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB
[12:52] <beb> hi :)
[12:52] <r00tintheb0x> ok hold on gh0stid
[12:52] <erUSUL> steel_lady: make sure you use it in the right disk, find some doc in google ect
[12:54] <kbrooks> is there a seriously good guide to ANSWERING questions on IRC?
[12:54] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x:  ?
[12:54] <r00tintheb0x> hold
[12:54] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x: oks orry
[12:54] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[12:54] <r00tintheb0x> aptitude purge nvidia-glx-new && aptitude -y install nvidia-glx
[12:55] <gh0stid_> u do remeber that my xorg.conf is to nv right now, not nvdia, right ?
[12:55] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid what model video card do you have again?
[12:55] <r00tintheb0x> yes gho
[12:55] <r00tintheb0x> yes gh0stid
[12:55] <mc44> r00tintheb0x: -new should be the right driver
[12:55] <r00tintheb0x> hmm
[12:55] <mc44> gh0stid_: try changing to nvidia and modprobing
[12:55] <gh0stid_> nvidia geforce v9570 fx5700
[12:56] <gh0stid_> nvidia or nvidia_new ?
[12:56] <r00tintheb0x> yeah, thats what i was going to sugguest... but i cant imagine that it'd parse the xorg.conf file looking for nvidia
[12:56] <r00tintheb0x> it may though
[12:56] <mc44> gh0stid_: nvidia
[12:56] <gh0stid_> even if it say that its looking for a _new ?
[12:57] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[12:57] <gh0stid_> Not loading nvidia_new module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <mc44> gh0stid_: it did that after you changed it to nvidia?
[12:57] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid join #r00tw00t
[12:57] <gh0stid_> no
[12:57] <gh0stid_> im asking
[12:57] <mc44> gh0stid_: then try nvidia
[12:57] <gh0stid_> k 2sec
[12:57] <boerse> hello @all.. need help with feisty.. we need php4 - and theres no package - lost dependencies..
[12:59] <prudis> Hey, can anybody help me? I'm working on laptop with external monitor. Working just external monitor now. How to switch to laptop monitor without restarting GDM?
[01:01] <gh0stid_> hum
[01:01] <gh0stid_> nice.. he quit :/ .
[01:01] <uyohm> Hi all !
[01:02] <gh0stid_> mc44: using nvidia instead of nv: gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:02] <gh0stid_> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[01:02] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[01:03] <prudis> who quit?
[01:03] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x .. he was helping me.. seem like ill have to restart from begining once again and it make alreadt 3day im working on it. AND 3hrs i spend here..
[01:03] <boerse> hello, i need libapach2-mod-php4 in feisty.. but its no more longer in repos list.. any hint, how i can build my own package?
[01:04] <mc44> gh0stid_: er.. thats not good
[01:04] <gh0stid_> mc44: nop its not .. i work in two hours. and i havent slept of the whole night ..
[01:04] <younghacker> me either
[01:05] <gh0stid_> mc44: would u mind to help me :/ ?
[01:05] <younghacker> who
[01:05] <sebb> hi
[01:06] <younghacker> pow ping poom
[01:06] <mc44> gh0stid_: if the kernel module is not loading I'm not sure whats wrong. What does "apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new" say?
[01:06] <younghacker> ohh your nvidia drivers
[01:06] <gh0stid_> it might flood
[01:06] <gh0stid_> sorry
[01:06] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new
[01:06] <gh0stid_> nvidia-glx-new:
[01:06] <gh0stid_>   Install: 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28
[01:06] <gh0stid_>   Candidat: 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28
[01:06] <gh0stid_>  Table de version:
[01:06] <steel_lady> erUSUL the system does not respond to this comand
[01:06] <gh0stid_>  *** 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28 0
[01:06] <younghacker> i dunno
[01:06] <gh0stid_>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
[01:06] <gh0stid_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:06] <gh0stid_>      1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-15.20 0
[01:06] <gh0stid_>         500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
[01:06] <mc44> gh0stid_: use the pastebin!
[01:06] <gh0stid_> gh0stid@Bl2oDs:~$
[01:06] <sebb> there is an user of giganews ?
[01:07] <gh0stid_> mc44 sorry :/
[01:07] <younghacker> how much does ubuntu need on a partition to function correctly?
[01:07] <gh0stid_> 2gig
[01:08] <mc44> gh0stid_: and what does "uname -a" say?
[01:08] <gh0stid_> but would say 5
[01:08] <gh0stid_> 2.6.20-15 i686
[01:08] <younghacker> hmmm i see
[01:08] <gh0stid_> i cant use -16
[01:08] <erUSUL> steel_lady: gpart ?? how did you used it?
[01:08] <flokuehn> hey mc44 what your problem?
[01:08] <mc44> gh0stid_: you need to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to the new kernel
[01:08] <younghacker> that may be the reason i had to reinstall
[01:08] <gh0stid_> new kernel dont work for me
[01:08] <onions> any one using wxPlotCtrl ?
[01:08] <mc44> gh0stid_: what do you mean, doesn't work?
[01:09] <steel_lady> erUSUL no it does not respond to fdisk
[01:09] <gh0stid_> when itry to boot that kernel . it block on loading ( the first square of ubuntu loading bar )
[01:09] <flokuehn> mc44, what is your problem
[01:09] <r00tintheb0x_> gh0stid back
[01:09] <gh0stid_> as many other on ubuntu forums
[01:09] <mc44> flokuehn: ?
[01:09] <gh0stid_> r00tintheb0x_: cool
[01:09] <r00tintheb0x_> join #icanfixit
[01:09] <flokuehn> if you have an nividia driver problem you should read the nvidia oneliner
[01:10] <steel_lady> erUSUL please listen to me to explain what is the problem and what we want
[01:10] <mc44> gh0stid_: well your nvidia kernel module and kernel versions don't match, so it won't work
[01:10] <erUSUL> steel_lady: any error msg?
[01:10] <younghacker> so u would just upgrade the kernel?
[01:10] <gh0stid_> i just told u
[01:10] <younghacker> i see
[01:10] <gh0stid_> i cant
[01:10] <steel_lady> erUSUL no message it just pretends nothing happened
[01:10] <gh0stid_> 16 isnt working for MANY people
[01:10] <flokuehn> mc44, go to #debian an hit /msg dpkg nvidia an follow the instructions
[01:10] <flokuehn> it works
[01:11] <bonii> Today whenever I start Firefox and whenever I give an URL the system hangs the CPU gives 100% usage for I/O wait. I tried removing and reinstalling Firefox but the problem is persisting. Please help out. I am using Feisty and Firefox 2.0
[01:11] <r00tintheb0x_> king@malakai:~$ uname -a
[01:11] <r00tintheb0x_> Linux malakai 2.6.20-16-server #2 SMP Wed May 23 01:53:06 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:11] <mc44> flokuehn: er, I don't have a problem with nvidia, and that isn't particularly useful advice anyway
[01:11] <steel_lady> erUSUL can we go to privat msg, it will be faster
[01:11] <younghacker> interesting
[01:11] <flokuehn> mc44 and why isnt it an usefull advice?
[01:11] <mc44> flokuehn: because ubuntu != debian
[01:11] <flokuehn> thats definitly wronf
[01:12] <younghacker> yesterday my firefox just stopped working also and never started back and the system will not let me reinstall firefox because other apps depend on it
[01:12] <younghacker> ???
[01:12] <erUSUL> pn steel_lady hi
[01:12] <flokuehn> ubuntu is not exactley the same but it is build up on debian
[01:12] <crdlb> gh0stid_, have you tried reinstalling your restricted modules?
[01:12] <Bucat2> hi guys
[01:12] <flokuehn> so the differencs are very small
[01:12] <gh0stid_> crdlb: i tried so many thing .. ask r00tintheb0x
[01:12] <bonii> I did dpkg --purge firefox and then apt-get install firefox but still th problem persists
[01:13] <flokuehn> i tried the oneliner and it works for me
[01:13] <crdlb> gh0stid_, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[01:13] <bonii> Firefox starts up  without any problem but when I put in an URL and hit go it hangs
[01:13] <bonii> Please help me out
[01:13] <ubuntu_hoary> hi everybody. I was wondering if there is a mirror for ubuntu hoary out there, archive.ubuntu.com seems to contain nothing that is older than dapper
[01:14] <gh0stid_> crdlb: loading modules
[01:14] <mc44> ubuntu_hoary: hoary isn't supported any more
[01:14] <hellogoodbye> hoarycripple: there may be a torrent of it floating around somewhere
[01:14] <erUSUL> steel_lady: have you seen the pm?
[01:14] <ubuntu_hoary> mc44: I know, but it is the only live CD I have here and I just need two packages...
[01:14] <gh0stid_> crdlb: done
[01:14] <gh0stid_> crdlb: what now ?
[01:14] <KI4IKL> I have this external hd, how would I mount it as sudo?
[01:14] <bonii> Today whenever I start Firefox and whenever I give an URL the system hangs the CPU gives 100% usage for I/O wait. I tried removing and reinstalling Firefox but the problem is persisting. Please help out. I am using Feisty and Firefox 2.0
[01:15] <crdlb> gh0stid_, reboot with Driver "nvidia" in your xorg.conf
[01:15] <gh0stid_> 2sec plz
[01:15] <crdlb> ubuntu_hoary, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[01:15] <ubuntu_hoary> thankx crdlb
[01:15] <ubuntu_hoary> :-)
[01:16] <bonii>  mv backup/ /data/ the above command is giving the following error mv: inter-device move failed: `backup/' to `/data/backup'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[01:16] <erUSUL> steel_lady: ping
[01:16] <bonii> What is the problem?
[01:16] <mc44> ubuntu_hoary: thats only the cds though, so probably won't help you
[01:17] <ubuntu_hoary> mc44: I just saw
[01:17] <mc44> ubuntu_hoary: what packages do you need?
[01:18] <r00tintheb0x> mc44, you from the states?
[01:19] <r00tintheb0x> mc44, you any good at corp linux?
[01:19] <ubuntu_hoary> mc44: atlantic/k and it's dependencies
[01:19] <r00tintheb0x> i've got a doosie for you
[01:19] <r00tintheb0x> welcome back gh0stid
[01:20] <gh0stid> crdlb: been forced to switch to nv again :/ . thx r00tintheb0x
[01:20] <r00tintheb0x> any *NIX admins in here?
[01:20] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, did you reboot?
[01:20] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: crdlb asked me to, and my ubuntu was also asking me to .. so
[01:20] <r00tintheb0x> yeah... well
[01:21] <r00tintheb0x> i guess they've got you now eh?"
[01:21] <abhi> Ubuntu ROCKS! :) Beryl Rocks!! :) Vista Aero Sucks :P
[01:21] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: at least... my kernel 16 is working now ;)
[01:21] <r00tintheb0x> good job abhi you should have been a cheer leader.
[01:21] <r00tintheb0x> good gh0stid
[01:21] <r00tintheb0x> brb
[01:21] <Otto> Hello everyone i ve got a problem I dont know how to install Wine?
[01:21] <gh0stid> crdlb: are u still here ?
[01:21] <mc44> ubuntu_hoary: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hoary/i386/atlantik/4:3.4.0-0ubuntu2
[01:22] <erUSUL> Otto: sudo apt-get install wine ??
[01:22] <crdlb> gh0stid, yep
[01:22] <gh0stid> crdlb: as i said .. my kernel 16 work now. but nvidia still doesnt work
[01:22] <DJAdmiral> hello people
[01:22] <Otto> what can you talk me something more
[01:22] <thorre> is there a guide for performance tweaks for ubuntu?
[01:22] <r00tintheb0x> hi dj
[01:23] <r00tintheb0x> thorre, there's some on ubuntuforums.org
[01:23] <DJAdmiral> Hey r00t
[01:23] <crdlb> gh0stid, I have no idea what it could be
[01:23] <jrib> !wine > Otto (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:23] <thorre> r00tintheb0x: i will search that forum
[01:23] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:23] <crdlb> gh0stid, it still works if you boot -15 ?
[01:23] <ubuntu_hoary> mc44: thanks, I think I can dpkg -i me through the dependencies from there :-)
[01:23] <r00tintheb0x> thorre, it should be on the front page there
[01:23] <gh0stid> nvidia never worked.
[01:23] <gh0stid> only nv
[01:23] <Otto> where i can find private mesage
[01:23] <mc44> ubuntu_hoary: all the deps are in a box on the right
[01:23] <r00tintheb0x> Otto,  /msg persoon messageyouwanttosende
[01:24] <mc44> ubuntu_hoary: click on "Depends on"
[01:24] <crdlb> gh0stid, did you ever use envy or the nvidia installer?
[01:24] <gh0stid> tried both
[01:24] <gh0stid> no succes
[01:24] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, you get my PM?
[01:24] <crdlb> gh0stid, before or after the problem?
[01:25] <crdlb> well before or after using the apt packages?
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> crdlb, you any good with server problems?
[01:25] <crdlb> nope
[01:25] <ubuntu_hoary> mc44 Ok thanks again
[01:25] <r00tintheb0x> ok
[01:25] <gh0stid> crdlb: it NEVER worked. i mean i always been using nv. cause i didnt know of nvidia, then i wanted to install beryl. and there am i trying to install my real drivers.
[01:26] <crdlb> gh0stid, did you use the restricted manager first?
[01:26] <gh0stid> yes
[01:27] <crdlb> :(
[01:27] <crdlb> I have no idea
[01:28] <r00tintheb0x> gh0stid, let me know when you're ready to continue
[01:28] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x: i just sent u a pm
[01:29] <steel_lady> please tell me where in ubuntu is the program for formating and managing partitions
[01:29] <steel_lady> and what is the name
[01:29] <CheshireViking> !parted
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <savetheWorld> fdisk
[01:29] <r00tintheb0x> i didnt get it gh0stid, join #r00tchat
[01:29] <CheshireViking> !disk | steel_lady
[01:29] <KI4IKL> !gparted
[01:29] <ubotu> steel_lady: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:29] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:30] <KI4IKL> steel_lady, gparted, use sudo apt-get install gparted, then sudo gparted.
[01:30] <ubuntu-rocks> how can i clone a 10gig drive to an 80gig drive?
[01:31] <KI4IKL> Is there a type of partition that'll read and write on linux and windows?
[01:31] <shiftplusone> hey, was wondering if someone could help. I get an error when running configure and some other scripts.
[01:31] <shiftplusone>  /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[01:31] <jrib> KI4IKL: ext3 or fat
[01:31] <shiftplusone> was wondering how to fix this.
[01:31] <KI4IKL> Ahh...k
[01:31] <jrib> shiftplusone: install the "tofrodos" package and use 'unix2dos' on the file
[01:31] <jrib> !ext3 > KI4IKL (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:32] <shiftplusone> jrib: thanks.
[01:32] <Mikeh> KI4IKL, FAT32 can be r/w on both, but with Extfsd or IFS Drives you can r/w ext2/3 on windows. Or with NFTS-3g you can r/w NTFS from Linux
[01:32] <steel_lady> KI4IKL we are in live CD because we lost the bootloader. we enter fpartes and it gives us the whole disk not parting shared FAT32 nor win nor ubuntu that is installed down there
[01:32] <jrib> shiftplusone: erm, I mean 'dos2unix'
[01:32] <shiftplusone> jrib: yeah I figured that bit out.
[01:33] <KI4IKL> steel_lady, do you have interenet connection?
[01:33] <KI4IKL> I know the easiest program to use.
[01:33] <KI4IKL> oh...do you wanna fresh instsall ne wpartition or just put the bootloader on it?
[01:33] <KI4IKL> ack, never mind :)
[01:34] <eX|Joe> joe@migraine:~$ sudo -s
[01:34] <eX|Joe> sudo: must be setuid root
[01:34] <eX|Joe> joe@migraine:~$
[01:34] <eX|Joe> hey guys, anyone have any suggestions on how to get back into root?
[01:35] <steel_lady> KI4IKL it is my friend in other house, he has internet and live CD. he wants 2 things: to recover bootload and what he needs for recovering is to recognize partitions. the problem is that win messed up with the disk and now he lost 50G, since win does not see that partition. he wants to repair it
[01:35] <jrib> eX|Joe: did you run some chmod command recently?
[01:35] <eX|Joe> yes
[01:35] <jrib> eX|Joe: what did you run?
[01:35] <Mikeh> try sudo -s -H Ex|
[01:35] <KI4IKL> I can't help you with bootload, never mind.
[01:35] <eX|Joe> by accident i did chmod --recursive 777 /
[01:35] <KI4IKL> Sorry
[01:35] <eX|Joe> when i ment to do just the contents of the dir i was in
[01:35] <jrib> eX|Joe: reinstall
[01:35] <eX|Joe> ubuntu?
[01:35] <eX|Joe> completely?
[01:35] <Mandorallen> anyone managed to get around the stack smashing issue with nvclock and Feisty?
[01:36] <jrib> eX|Joe: yes, make backups of your documents and reinstall ubuntu
[01:36] <eX|Joe> rofles
[01:36] <steel_lady> please, who can help me with gparted?
[01:36] <Mikeh> lol unlucky eX|Joe
[01:36] <eX|Joe> this is like my 20th reinstall
[01:36] <Frogzoo> Mandorallen: feisty has a stack smashing issue?
[01:36] <eX|Joe> any suggestions for a web developer on how to keep from doing reinstalls?
[01:37] <jrib> eX|Joe: it's really rare that you would need to chmod -R  anything, just double check next time
[01:37] <Mandorallen> Frogzoo - when I run nvclock with any command line it just gives stack smashing error
[01:37] <kev1n> i am having problems installing thunderbird V2 .... are there problems with that and feisty
[01:37] <eX|Joe> jrib, with cms's specifically joomla you have to do them often
[01:38] <Mandorallen> it worked in edgy
[01:38] <Mikeh> eX|Joe, if you can avoid doing something which requires root access, avoid it. If you need root access, be vewy vewy caweful :)
[01:38] <kev1n> yep....i agree mandorallen
[01:40] <mandh> hey , I have server , but i want to give other employee some acces to monitor the server will some previlige only what tools can i use
[01:40] <mandh> with some sorry
[01:40] <Mikeh> is there a partitioning tool that will automatically update my fstab?
[01:40] <waterloo> Hi, am new to ubuntu...need some help partitioning the disk to install...can i pm someone plz?
[01:41] <waterloo> i will just go ahead n ask then
[01:42] <waterloo> so i got 20 gigs of free space....after i create the root and swap partitions....the rest of the space shows up as unusable
[01:42] <waterloo> and i can't make the /home partition
[01:42] <Mikeh> You need to only have one or two Primary partitions waterloo
[01:42] <Azu1> waterloo: are you from waterloo
[01:43] <waterloo> i understand that
[01:43] <waterloo> but i wanna create a home partition too
[01:43] <Mikeh> delete a partition, and create an Extended partition, then create logical partitions within it
[01:43] <Azu1> waterloo: are from waterloo, canada?
[01:43] <waterloo> no
[01:43] <Azu1> ok
[01:44] <waterloo> my question is, why is it showing up as unusable....
[01:44] <waterloo> i got two other fat32 partions on the same disk
[01:44] <Mikeh> are they primary or logical?
[01:45] <waterloo> one is primary where windows xp is installed
[01:45] <waterloo> other one is logical
[01:45] <waterloo> after that i have 20 gigs of free space, but can't create more than two partitons
[01:46] <Mikeh> hmm, how large is your extended partition?
[01:46] <waterloo> there is no extended one
[01:46] <waterloo> one primary, one logical, 20 gigs free
[01:46] <Mikeh> ...you can't have logical partitions without and Extended partition
[01:46] <waterloo> both primary and logical are fat 32
[01:47] <KI4IKL> What is the command to mount a disk?
[01:47] <Mikeh> !mount > KI4IKL
[01:47] <waterloo> are u sure abt that? cuz that's wt disk manager in xp tells me
[01:48] <Mikeh> ignore disk manager in XP
[01:48] <novato_br> why doesn't working ALT + F2 ?
[01:48] <novato_br> what's going on ?
[01:48] <waterloo> how else do i check
[01:48] <Mikeh> download GParted, or some other partitioning utility
[01:49] <novato_br> before ALT + F2 open Command Line execute, now it isn't working
[01:49] <novato_br> why ?
[01:49] <waterloo> ok sorry my bad.....the other fat32 is an extended partitoin
[01:49] <Mikeh> then  delete your second FAT32 partition, creat an extended partition which takes up your whole drive, then create new logical partitions within it, ok Wanderer
[01:49] <Mikeh> um, waterloo
[01:50] <Mikeh> tab completion for the suck.
[01:50] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm trying to restart my network interfaces and i'm getting SIOCADDRT: Network is unreacable, Failed to bring up eth1.
[01:50] <Danux> I have been having an absolute nightmare trying to get wireless USB dongles to work... so am thinking I will just find one that will plug and play with ubuntu. is there a list of supported ubuntu wireless cards?
[01:50] <Mikeh> btw KI4IKL, the command for mounting is "mount" type "man mount" to learn more
[01:50] <mikeconcepts> I need to understand howto play DVD movie iso file without burning to a DVD, have no DVD hardware, and good howto on this?
[01:50] <shiftplusone> Hey, how come I can't change file permissions as root on a mounted fs?
[01:50] <shiftplusone> fstab entry: UUID=4555-B90E  /media/hdb2     vfat    defaults                 0       1
[01:50] <hjmills> hi - how can i restart a system service (udev) with python?
[01:50] <Pici> mikeconcepts: open the iso with vlc
[01:50] <waterloo> can i pm you mikeh...?
[01:51] <shiftplusone> hmm... is it something to do the the fs being vfat?
[01:51] <mikeconcepts> Pici, what is vlc?
[01:51] <KI4IKL> thanks Mikeh
[01:51] <Mikeh> may not be the best idea, because I can't PM you back waterloo, only registered users can PM, also I have to go to work in about 5 minutes
[01:51] <Pici> mikeconcepts: media player. its in the Ubuntu repositories.
[01:51] <Pici> !info vlc
[01:51] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6.release-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 1131 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[01:52] <mikeconcepts> Pici, thanks
[01:52] <AmirB> hey guys, I was wondering if someone would sit down with me for a while and go through a list of prblems that I have which are keeping the ubuntu experience from shining for me and seeing if we can solve any of them
[01:52] <ubuntu-rocks> !question
[01:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:53] <AmirB> yes, but there's a bunch of 'em...
[01:53] <ubuntu-rocks> AmirB - start with 1 and go from there
[01:53] <waterloo> ok so very quickly.....the extended partition is a 20gig fat32 with a logical drive of the same sie in it......and there's 20gigs of free space....where i can't create more than two partitions....deleting the extended partition is not an option cuz i have data i need there
[01:53] <hjmills> waterloo, make the extended partition (but not the logical partiion inside) bigger
[01:54] <kbrooks> AmirB, just ask.
[01:54] <AmirB> alright, anyways, one problem I'm having is that the Shutdown and restart options have disappeared from the quit box, and I have to manually shutdown the computer from the terminal.
[01:54] <luke-jr_> waterloo: deleting the partition doesn't delete the data
[01:54] <luke-jr_> waterloo: just be careful to put the new partition in the same place
[01:54] <hjmills> luke-jr_, it will make it harder to get at though...
[01:54] <ubuntu-rocks> how do i troubleshoot a SIOADDRCT error? i can't start my eth1
[01:54] <AmirB> also, if I click shutdown or restart from the user login window, it just blanks the screen and goes back to the login window
[01:54] <waterloo> anyway of merging the extended with the free space?
[01:54] <luke-jr_> hjmills: not if write down the location and such of the partition
[01:55] <waterloo> like what hjmills said
[01:55] <luke-jr_> waterloo: delete it and remake it :)
[01:55] <hjmills> luke-jr_, easier to just make the current extended partition bigger
[01:55] <waterloo> ^how?
[01:55] <luke-jr_> hjmills: not always possible
[01:55] <hjmills> luke-jr_, how come?
[01:55] <luke-jr_> hjmills: a primary partition following it?
[01:56] <Mikeh> not to mention luke-jr_, deleting the partition can easily delete the data.
[01:56] <ubuntu-rocks> AmirB - what version of ubuntu are you running? I don't run gui but I'm just trying to get you to post more details on your problem
[01:56] <luke-jr_> Mikeh: no
[01:56] <Mikeh> you usually have to reformat it to use it, therefore deleting the data.
[01:57] <luke-jr_> Mikeh: nonsense
[01:57] <Mikeh> luke-jr_, truths
[01:57] <luke-jr_> there's no reason you'd need to reformat
[01:58] <hjmills> luke-jr_, move the primary partitions around so the free space is directly after the extended partition then resize the extended partition and create any new partitions inside the extended partition
[01:58] <luke-jr_> hjmills: you assume the extended isn't the first
[01:58] <luke-jr_> or rather, that the others fit before it
[01:59] <steel_lady> please people help me recover broken partition table!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:59] <waterloo> ok....sda1 is the 20gigs of free space......sda2 is the primary fat32....sda5 is the extended fat32 with the logical in it
[02:00] <hjmills> luke-jr_, no, if the drive is such: | ext| pri | free | : then move the primary into the free and it will then be: |ext|free|pri| : voila - easy to resize
[02:00] <hjmills> waterloo, do you have gparted?
[02:00] <J_P> hi all
[02:00] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm trying to restart my network interfaces and i'm getting SIOCADDRT: Network is unreacable, Failed to bring up eth1. eth1 is nic on the Internet
[02:00] <waterloo> i was hoping the installer could do it
[02:00] <luke-jr_> hjmills: not to mention that moving it liek that is more work and time than just recreating the partition
[02:00] <J_P> are there some like as dpkg / apt bot here ?
[02:00] <hjmills> waterloo, well that uses gparted for the normal installer so thats fine
[02:00] <hjmills> luke-jr_, but safer and less prone to c*ckups
[02:02] <Bucat2> heya guys i have problem in recording sound in vmware, when i have started windows xp home , mic it's ok i can hear my voice but it doesn t record
[02:02] <waterloo> so what do i do in the manual partitoning hj?
[02:02] <waterloo> does it have an option to increase the size?
[02:02] <chucky> may i join?
[02:02] <hjmills> waterloo, im just checking
[02:03] <waterloo> ok
[02:03] <DjViper> chucky: pour your heart out mate :)
[02:04] <hjmills> waterloo, you can move sda2 to the beginning of the drive
[02:05] <hjmills> waterloo, then move sda5 back as far as poss and expand it to get the free space inside the extended partition then make new logical partitions in the extended partition at the end fo the drive
[02:05] <hjmills> waterloo, of course - backup first
[02:05] <Zambezi> I'm desperate for help with a chart in calc. I can't setup 0,10,20,30 etc. och y and not 0-50 on x. Can somebody please help me. It's for an exam at lawschool.
[02:06] <ubuntu-rocks> anyone?
[02:06] <waterloo> k..i'll try that
[02:07] <steel_lady> is this the help channel or not?
[02:07] <hjmills> steel_lady, yes - the off topic channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:07] <hjmills> steel_lady, how can I help?
[02:08] <steel_lady> hjmills I have to recover broken partition table
[02:09] <hjmills> steel_lady, can you boot into linux?
[02:09] <Zambezi> Anyone know if OpenOffice got a helpchannel? I'm almost loosing my mind if I can get help soon.
[02:09] <erUSUL> steel_lady: i have said you to try gpart (not the same as gparted) long ago
[02:09] <erUSUL> !info gpart | steel_lady
[02:09] <ubotu> steel_lady: gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB
[02:10] <erUSUL> steel_lady: you didin't respond to the pm i send you by your request nor did you respond here in the channel.
[02:10] <steel_lady> erUSUL and how to enter that from live CD?
[02:10] <erUSUL> steel_lady: not a very good attitude to get help imho
[02:10] <steel_lady> erUSUL you were not reading private messages
[02:11] <erUSUL> steel_lady: look in google for some documentation on how to use the tool
[02:11] <erUSUL> steel_lady: i msg you and you didn't respond i suspect that you are not registered in freenode so you can not send nor recive pm's
  something is wrong with priovate msg. I searched on google and installed programs for that
[02:12] <erUSUL> steel_lady: use /msg NickServ help to learn how to register your nick
[02:12] <erUSUL> !register
[02:12] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
 I am registered
[02:13] <erUSUL> steel_lady: anyway, if you have to recover a partition table gpart is the only tool i know
 tell me how to use gpart from live CD
[02:13] <erUSUL> steel_lady: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/
[02:13] <waterloo> so i edit the mount point of sda2 and change it to sda1 hj?
[02:13] <erUSUL> steel_lady: install it iof it is not instaled and read the page i just gave you
[02:16] <andatche> is there anyway I can update the environment to include new groups I'm added to without logging in/out
[02:17] <steel_lady> erUSUL how to do i install it with live CD, we can not enter ubuntu because of the bootloader
[02:18] <hrehf_> hm, i need / want to share my .emacs and all my modes via operating systems - i symlinked my .emacs in my linux ~/, but how'd i best integrate the (site-)lisp directories (dirs holding custom modes for emacs)? I don't really want to overwrite /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp with my windows site-lisp dir
[02:19] <erUSUL> steel_lady: boot with livecd and intall it in the livecd then use it from the livecd
[02:19] <vodnik> Hi, I was trying to rebuild a package with some patches so that I can fix a bug I am encoutering (patch comes from launchpad) with sudo debuild -us -uc, it worked before, but now it says something like "Patch debian/patches/02_fix_wrong_awk_path.diff is not applied." to every path in debian/patches, mine as well as those that were already there - any ideas? I got none:-(
 how to install in live CD, I mean to whic partition? live CD does not see the partitions!!!
[02:20] <AmirB> hey guys, the Shutdown and restart options have disappeared from the quit box, and I have to manually shutdown the computer from the terminal.
[02:20] <AmirB> also, if I click shutdown or restart from the user login window, it just blanks the screen and goes back to the login window
[02:20] <AmirB> how can I fix this?
[02:22] <waterloo> hjmills u there?
[02:23] <Trae> is there a gui like app for scp kinda like winscp for linux?
[02:23] <hjmills> waterloo, am now,
[02:23] <rem> Trae gftp can do scp
[02:23] <Trae> rem, ahhh okies
[02:24] <Trae> rem, thanks
[02:24] <vbabiy> Trae: Gnome will do SCP
[02:24] <ysuper> help me my apt can`t use E:  awcommon 
[02:24] <StErGi0s> hello.i have an image i want to write it as archive on a cd.how can i do that?i never wrote a cd on linux before
[02:24] <Trae> vbabiy, bah, gnome sucks at it
[02:24] <Trae> vbabiy, it always freakin' locks up and never completes the transaction for me.
[02:24] <awk> whats the name of the new ubuntu
[02:24] <awk> ?
[02:24] <Trae> vbabiy, I've ALWAYS had prroblems with it :(
[02:24] <awk> not fesity
[02:24] <awk> feisty even
[02:25] <vbabiy> Trae:  really i use it every day and it works great
[02:25] <waterloo> do i change the mount point of sda2 to sda1?
[02:25] <nimbo> gutsy gibbon tribe 1
[02:25] <Trae> vbabiy, whereas the same box I can ssh to with no delays or problems, and I can scp files manually on command line to same boxen with no problem.
[02:25] <awk> nimbo how long before its released?
[02:25] <waterloo> currently it's /media/sda2
[02:25] <Trae> vbabiy, the second I try and use gnme's icon on desktop connections, it just sucks the big weenie
[02:26] <nimbo> awk: october or so
[02:26] <phantom_> Installed clam anti virus from repo now . got message that repo dependences incorect install suspended . Fuckt up my Gnome . When I log in it crashes gnome with xgl , kde with xgl , gnome , I'm no in kde. what kan I do?????????
[02:26] <Trae> vbabiy, it always takes like 1min to try and connect or something and then it times out 1/2 the time
[02:26] <vbabiy> Trae: not sure what to say, mine works great
[02:26] <Trae> vbabiy, gratz
[02:26] <awk> why not call 1 of the ubuntu versions sharka zulu
[02:26] <Trae> vbabiy, :(
[02:26] <nimbo> perhaps the next one will
[02:27] <phantom_> it even uninstaled my ati driver.
[02:27] <anthony_> I'm installing xubuntu from the alternate CD, and I'm getting a screen saying No network interfaces detected. The installation can continue successfully in spite of that, right?
[02:28] <GenNMX> anthony_: Yes, you don't need an Internet connection.
[02:28] <hjmills> waterloo, you shouldn't need to change mountpoints or anything, just move the partitions about on disk
[02:28] <hjmills> waterloo, its a bit like the hanoi towers puzzle i guess
[02:28] <phantom_> Installed clam anti virus from repo now . got message that repo dependences incorect install suspended . Fuckt up my Gnome . When I log in it crashes gnome with xgl , kde with xgl , gnome , I'm no in kde. what kan I do?????????
[02:28] <awk> ok here is a weird problem i have had with most of the ubuntu versions i have had, 2 network cards in the box, ubuntu decides to switch them on reboot, sometimes eth1 is eth0 and visa versa!
[02:28] <waterloo> i don't see an option to movie it
[02:29] <waterloo> *move
[02:29] <awk> phantom i don't believe clam av can cause x to crash :D
[02:29] <_tilman> awk: You can fix that by explicit setting your network identifiers by mac address
[02:29] <hjmills> waterloo, also, if you address your messages to me (type my name at the beginning of the message) my irc client will make sure I notice the message
[02:29] <hjmills> waterloo, try right clicking on it
[02:29] <awk> _tilman thanks, i'll have a look at the network paramters for that
[02:29] <hjmills> waterloo, you are using the desktop installer (gui), not the alternate (text) installer
[02:29] <hjmills> ?
[02:30] <anthony_> GenNMX, thanks. Making sure. I'm trying to install this is about my 4th attempt to install ubuntu on this pc.
[02:30] <phantom_> Installed clam anti virus from repo now . got message that repo dependences incorect install suspended . Fuckt up my Gnome . When I log in it crashes gnome with xgl , kde with xgl , gnome , I'm no in kde. what kan I do?????????
[02:30] <_tilman> awk: I never did that, but as far as I know you can modify your /etc/network/interfaces
[02:30] <waterloo> hjmills, yes desktop
[02:30] <_tilman> awk: But don't know if nm-applet is able to handle that
[02:30] <awk> nm-applet ?
[02:30] <waterloo> and rightclicking just gives me edit or delete options
[02:31] <awk> oh, i don't use X at all :D
[02:31] <hjmills> waterloo, hmmm - maybe the gparted installer used in the desktop cd is limited in functionality
[02:31] <hjmills> waterloo, try edit
[02:32] <Frogzoo_> phantom_: you using repos only for your distro?
[02:32] <waterloo> edit gives me the size, filesystem and mount point
[02:32] <phantom_> feisty es
[02:32] <awk> any idea if gusty has vserver kernel in its sources?
[02:32] <phantom_> yes <Frogzoo_
[02:32] <anthony_> Alright, when I partition the disks while installing from the alternate cd, which option is best if I have a 9GB hd and a 3.2 Gb hd, which previously had Windows XP installed and now have files from failed attempts to install ubuntu?
[02:33] <hjmills> is it in a bar that you can drag around? if not its probably best to put aside the installer and download the gparted live cd (which is handy anyway) or look in System>Administration for Gnome Partition Editor
[02:33] <waterloo> what if i run gnome partition editor
[02:33] <waterloo> yea i did that
[02:33] <hjmills> waterloo, that will sort it
[02:33] <scorp123> Hi again ...
[02:33] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: maybe put / & swap on the 3gig, and the rest on the 9gig /usr, /var, /home
[02:33] <hjmills> waterloo, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/documentation.php
[02:34] <hjmills> waterloo, I have to go eat lunch now but other people should be able to help you if you need more help
[02:34] <hjmills> waterloo, that site should help guide you through gparted
[02:34] <waterloo> thanks hjmills
[02:34] <anthony_> Frogzoo_ I would have to choose the manual option to do that, right?
[02:35] <phantom_>  Installed clam anti virus from repo now . got message that repo dependences incorect install suspended . Fuckt up my Gnome . When I log in it crashes gnome with xgl , kde with xgl , gnome , I'm no in kde. what kan I do?????????
[02:35] <anthony_> I don't know how to use the command line. Maybe that means I shouldn't be installing Linux.
[02:36] <jaap> Hey,
[02:36] <jaap> I had Windows Vista installed in my SATA hard drive. I plugged in another IDE hard drive to install Ubuntu as I am really interested in trying it. I went through the installation process and it all worked perfectly. I know I need to change some settings to "GRUB" or Windows booting to access both operating systems. Right now, I can only access Windows Vista. All the guides out there show you how to change the settings on Ubuntu. Please help me out....
[02:36] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: manually partition is all
[02:36] <anthony_> Ok, I'll try it.
[02:37] <jaap> can someone help me
[02:38] <phantom_>  Installed clam anti virus from repo now . got message that repo dependences incorect install suspended . Fuckt up my Gnome . When I log in it crashes gnome with xgl , kde with xgl , gnome , I'm no in kde. what kan I do?????????
[02:38] <Smygis> !grub
[02:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <jrib> !language | phantom_
[02:39] <ubotu> phantom_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:39] <DJ-_-> what are good dvd writers for xfce interface
[02:39] <Smygis> !grub | jaap
[02:39] <ubotu> jaap: please see above
[02:39] <logmein> DJ-_-: xfburn?
[02:39] <DJ-_-> logmein: only supports cds
[02:40] <phantom_> Shood i try too find a solution in the forum or delete my linux partition???
[02:40] <DJ-_-> btw I changed some colour by mistakely in xchat how do I get it to default
[02:40] <logmein> phantom: why would you want to use clam av? use aegis-virus-scanner its much more easy for scanning for windows viruses
[02:41] <logmein> DJ-_-: really? that's odd
[02:41] <keith> jaap: you installed ubuntu 2nd, and you don't get the grub boot screen?
[02:41] <DJ-_-> logmein: yeah, anyway you know of?
[02:41] <logmein> DJ-_-: others have said it burns dvds
 the problem is how doo i repaire the error so that gnome dosent restart on login
[02:41] <DJ-_-> logmein: i have a dvd writer installed, it only shows options for cds, I checked the preferences but no dvd to be seen
[02:42] <logmein> DJ-_-: you could try k3b
[02:42] <DJ-_-> !info k3b
[02:42] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 4912 kB, installed size 9404 kB
[02:42] <logmein> phantom_: do recovery console by pressing esc at grub prompt then do apt-get remove clam-av
[02:42] <DJ-_-> will it work in xfce?
[02:42] <logmein> DJ-_-: of course
[02:43] <DJ-_-> and how do i default the colours of xchat...i tried reinstalling but not successful
 grub prompt = ?
[02:43] <IdleOne> DJ-_-, xchat usualy takes on the color scheme of the theme you are using
[02:43] <logmein> DJ-_-: check the preferences
[02:44] <IdleOne> DJ-_-, they can be changed in the prefs though
[02:44] <osxdude> DJ-_-: Completley remove, then install. (from synaptic)
[02:44] <logmein> phantom: when you start up after the bios screen it has a count down and says GRUB press esc for menu
[02:44] <DJ-_-> osxdude: thats what i did
[02:44] <logmein> phantom: press esc and choose recovery mode
[02:44] <DJ-_-> Idleone: can you get me the default colours?
[02:44] <Trae> Is there a nice gui tool that will let me add /dev/sdb1 to be mounted @boot?  I really hate messing with fstab.
[02:44] <osxdude> DJ-_-: Ok, good.
[02:44] <IdleOne> DJ-_-, xchat.org should have screenshots I dont use the default theme
[02:45] <DJ-_-> !gparted | Trae
[02:45] <ubotu> Trae: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:45] <DJ-_-> Idleone: ok
[02:45] <Trae> DJ-_-, lol didn't someone tell you about that a day or so ago?
[02:45] <Trae> DJ-_-, (and thanks)
[02:45] <DJ-_-> Trae: np
[02:45] <osxdude> Is the live CD for gparted GUI-based?
 jaap: you installed ubuntu 2nd, and you don't get the grub boot screen?  thats right
[02:46] <DJ-_-> Trae: yeah
[02:46] <anthony_> Ok, installing xubuntu from alternate cd, I partitioned machine's two hard disks; they both show the full disk size of free space. When I select "finish partitioning and write changes to disk, I get an error "no root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partition menu." Excuse my ignorance, but I'm going to need walked through some of this.
[02:46] <Alex_001> gparted LiveCD won't boot inside Virtual PC 2007 why is that?
[02:46] <Alex_001> gparted LiveCD won't boot inside Virtual PC 2007 why is that?
[02:46] <keith> jaap: that's odd
[02:46] <keith> jaap: the windows boot loader will not (afaik) let you boot linux
[02:46] <keith> so you need to install grub
[02:46] <logmein> jaap: then your only hope is to load the live cd and set menu.list to show the grub boot screen then use it
[02:47] <Pici> Alex_001: The Ubuntu live CD?
[02:47] <logmein> jaap: or possibly delete the clamav directories if you know where they are but still might have problems
[02:47] <keith> jaap: boot the live cd and *install grub*
[02:47] <Alex_001> no, the GParted live CD
[02:47] <osxdude> alex_001: really? try booting by restarting.
[02:47] <osxdude> ...your comp
[02:47] <jaap> how do i only install grub from the live cd
[02:47] <logmein> jaap: how do you even have it running?
[02:47] <logmein> jaap: it installs grub
[02:47] <DJ-_-> what colour in xchat refers to the ppl leaving the room
[02:48] <osxdude> jaap: You cant.
[02:48] <logmein> jaap: just go to restart and keep pressing esc it will work ok
[02:48] <Trae> hmm
[02:48] <Alex_001> i just want to test GParted inside Virtual PC 2007
[02:48] <osxdude> DJ-_-: use green
[02:48] <jaap> i already tried pressing Esc
[02:48] <keith> jaap: read the man page for 'grub-install'
[02:49] <DJ-_-> osxdude: i asked which colour refers to it...like new data, mark line etc
[02:49] <osxdude> !grub | jaap
[02:49] <ubotu> jaap: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:49] <jaap> grub-install install_device is this the command
[02:49] <Pici> jaap: yes.
[02:50] <DJ-_-> wait i will do a complete removal and delete some files again cuz i hate these colours lol
[02:50] <ste> afternoon guys, I have a Western Digital Passport (ext usb-powered HDD, 120gb) and I was wondering if someone could point me in a direction of tutorial or app that will let me write to it (at the moment the file structure is ntfs)
[02:50] <Pici> jaap: install_device is the /dev/ device name
[02:50] <Pici> ste: Can you see the drive in Ubuntu?
[02:50] <ste> yep I can
[02:50] <Pici> ste: Rather, thed device?
[02:50] <scorp123> !ntfs
[02:50] <jaap> this is the first time i installed ubuntu can you explain what /dev/device name is?
[02:50] <ramvi> How do I edit video in linux? Kino?
[02:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:50] <sn0> ste if you are using feisty, aptitude install ntfs-config and run it :] 
[02:50] <osxdude> ste: Use ntfs-config.
[02:51] <scorp123> !ntfs-3g
[02:51] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:51] <Pici> ste: Take a look at the ntfs3g factoid above.
[02:51] <osxdude> I had to install "ntfs-config"
[02:51] <osxdude> Use that.
[02:52] <osxdude> gtg
[02:52] <ste> Cool, cheers guys, I shall have a look at that and let you know how I get off.  Only been using ubuntu for a week but I've managed to get everything sorted (app switches etc) and i'm loving it so far :)
[02:52] <KI4IKL> I have it setup in my bios to boot cd first, but it wont boot from the freakin cd.
[02:53] <ndferreira_> hi
[02:53] <ndferreira_> need help on something
[02:53] <DarthShrine> I have SSH access to a friend's box with Public Key Authentication, but when I run a tunnel, I cannot connect, and SSH spits out: "channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused" What's wrong here?
[02:53] <anthony_> I'm partitioning two hard drives on the same machine from the alternate xubuntu CD. The larger of the two is 9.1 Gb, and I chose to make one 9.1 Gb partition on it. The next screen says, "Type for the new partition:" Options are primary and logical. Which do I choose? What is the difference?
[02:54] <ikonia> ndferreira_ ask your question and lets see what we can do
[02:54] <tonyds_> I've never chatted on IRC before so please excuse me if I am not doing things right in here.  I'm trying to install xubuntu 7.1 tribe on my wife's laptop.  Getting error preventing boot "(initramfs) [   26.740000]  ata2:  SRST failed (errno=-16).... ata2: reset failed, giving up"  This machine has no sata hardware.
[02:54] <Frogzoo_> !partitions | anthony_
[02:54] <ubotu> anthony_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:54] <ikonia> tonyds_ how new is your wifes laptop
[02:54] <tonyds_> It is an old P3 750
[02:55] <ikonia> tonyds_ also why not ubuntu 7.04 ? why tribe 1 ?
[02:55] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: you can have 3 primary partions + 1 extended partition/in the extended partition, you can have more logical paritions
[02:55] <gordboy> http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article1871173.ece
[02:55] <tonyds_> specifically, I need xubuntu because it uses less memory.  For some reason, 7.04 can't detect her video card properly and I wanted to see if it would work on a newer release
[02:55] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: on the 9gig, make /usr, /home, /var primary paritions
[02:55] <ikonia> tonyds_ xubuntu 7.04 can't detect your video card ?
[02:55] <DJ-_-> ok i removed the xchat common and installed xchat gnome to get a new conf
[02:56] <tonyds_> it is a ati rage mobile video card
[02:56] <Pici> tonyds_: 7.1 is not realeased yet, it is an alpha version at the moment.
[02:56] <DJ-_-> thats all i could think of lol
[02:56] <anthony_> Frogzoo_, thanks. So I start with a primary partition. I guess that makes sense.
[02:56] <DJ-_-> btw where are programs we install stored in ubuntu
[02:56] <DJ-_-> like the conf files of them and stuff
[02:56] <ikonia> DJ-_-: /usr/bin
[02:56] <tonyds_> it uses a vesa driver and I couldn't get the ati driver to work.  I also tried SAM 2007 with the same problem.  Debian 4.0 is the only release it's worked on
[02:56] <ikonia> DJ-_-: /etc
[02:56] <Pici> DJ-_-: ~/.xchat stores your user settings
[02:56] <DJ-_-> ikonia: thx
[02:56] <DJ-_-> pici: thats what i was looking forward too tx a lot
[02:56] <KI4IKL> could grub be keeping my pc from booting from the cd?
[02:56] <DJ-_-> brb
[02:56] <ikonia> DJ-_-: Pici is correct for your xchat settings
[02:57] <ikonia> KI4IKL no
[02:57] <anthony_> And unless I have other plans besides just getting xubuntu running, I don't need to worry about more than one partition on each drive, right, Frogzoo_?
[02:57] <ikonia> tonyds_ if its an old PC then the vesa driver will be fine
[02:57] <ikonia> tonyds_ you may have problems with newer releases ati drivers
[02:57] <phantom_> Tried to remove with Synaptic wich is functioning in kde  but get s me this message.E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:57] <phantom_> E: clamav-freshclam: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:57] <phantom_> E: clamav-daemon: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:57] <phantom_> E: clamsmtp: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:57] <ikonia> KI4IKL the cd is not bootable ?
[02:58] <tonyds_> the problem is the vesa driver is extremely slow on that machine.  moving a window takes forever and scrolling is painful
[02:58] <sn0> KI4IKL did you burn the iso as an image, not as a data disk
[02:58] <scorp123> KI4IKL: grub only becomes active long after the BIOS ...
[02:58] <KI4IKL> Umm...I burned it with an iso burner...I'd imagine it would be, let me go find another program to burn it with.
[02:58] <ikonia> tonyds_ so you'll need older versions of the ati drivers
[02:58] <DJ-_-> brb
[02:58] <KI4IKL> Let me go reburn...
[02:58] <scorp123> KI4IKL: you are sure the CD is bootable??
[02:59] <scorp123> KI4IKL: e.g. it contains an operating system, it has a boot block, and all that?
[02:59] <tonyds_> I'm trying to figure out where the problem is.  I'm running Debian unstable on it and I believe it's using xorg 7.2 which is fairly recent
[02:59] <ikonia> tonyds_ yup - but thats probably the ati drivers within xorg - not external ones or its vesa
[03:00] <tonyds_> I'm guessing this driver would need to be compiled?
[03:00] <ikonia> tonyds_ no
[03:01] <anthony_> Frogzoo_ do I go to where it says, "Label for the file system in this partition" type /usr and continue?
[03:01] <tonyds_> ok, I've never replaced a driver inside of xorg.  Is there some kind of faq/tutorial for that specifically that you know of?
[03:02] <ikonia> tonyds_ you don't have to replace a driver. Have a look at this info
[03:02] <ikonia> !ati | tonyds_
[03:02] <ubotu> tonyds_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:02] <phantom_> how doo i backup repo and keys
[03:02] <ikonia> backup the repo
[03:02] <ikonia> ?
[03:02] <ikonia> thats stored on a remove server
[03:02] <ikonia> remote
[03:03] <ste> brb
[03:03] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: yep, and specify mount point as /usr & file system as ext3
[03:03] <tonyds_> Oh, I see what you're saying.  Unfortunately, the fglrx driver doesn't support the old rage mobility chipset
[03:04] <anthony_> How do I decide how much space to partition for /usr, /var, and /home?
[03:04] <ikonia> tonyds_ but olerversion do
[03:04] <ikonia> anthony_ why do you want /usr on a seperate partition ?
[03:05] <anthony_> ikonia, Frogzoo_ said make /usr, /var/ and /home primary partitions.
[03:06] <anthony_> I don't know a thing about it. I'm figuring it out as I go.
[03:06] <ikonia> anthony_ why /usr on a seperate partition though
[03:06] <anthony_> I don't know.
[03:06] <ikonia> Frogzoo_ any reason you suggested anthony_ put /usr on a seperate partition ?
[03:06] <wols> anthony_: doing stuff when you don't knw why is a sure way to disaster
[03:07] <GenNMX> ikonia: Some user-specific stuff is on /usr, hence why it's called /usr. Seperating out of partitions is so that if one partition fails, you don't lose all of /.
[03:07] <wols> anthony_: if it's your first install: 2 partitions. / and swap
[03:07] <anthony_> That's why I'm using a system I don't care about toasting, wois.
[03:07] <anthony_> Oh, wols. sorry
[03:07] <ikonia> GenNMX I'm well aware of what usr does but if its on the same disk - and the disk fails its poitnless seperating out /usr
[03:08] <ikonia> seperate partition for /usr used to be because of small disks
[03:08] <GenNMX> ikonia: Partition corruption is actually more likely then disk failure, unless the hard drive is over 5-6 years old.
[03:08] <coolman> Ich bin ein groes Stck frisch gekackte scheisse!
[03:08] <anthony_> It's over 5-6 years old.
[03:08] <bodek756> czesc
[03:08] <GenNMX> Well then go for it!
[03:08] <ikonia> GenNMX: partition corruption is pretty rare and if you don't know how to partition a disk you've got no chance of recovering bad corruption beyond fsck so it doesn't matter
[03:09] <toed> I've installed by hand the latest version of texlive, as the one in apt-get is too outdated; but now I see that almost anything to do with tex wants to install tetex. Is there a way to tell the system that I *have* a tex distribution and that it's not necessary to install it?
[03:09] <ikonia> toed nope, you've broke your package managment dependency tree
[03:09] <ikonia> toed you'll have to tell it to ignore dependencies
[03:09] <toed> bah
[03:09] <anthony_> ok, wols, so I should partition the whole 9.1 gb of my larger hard drive and name it /, then partition the whole smaller one, 3.2 gb, and name it swap. Am I on the right track?
[03:10] <ikonia> toed which I don't think is a great call for a package manager
[03:10] <toed> can't I make it pretend I've installed the package?
[03:10] <erUSUL> anthony_: 3.2 Gigs of swap seems a bit overkill
[03:10] <Frogzoo_> ikonia: only cos that's how his drives would bets lay out - but I keep /usr separate anyhow, old school
[03:10] <tritium> anthony_: you can only use 2 GB swap max
[03:10] <scoldog> I have an access point with no security on it, and am having problems with the Network settings panel trying to access it
[03:11] <anthony_> okay
[03:11] <anthony_> so should I do something else with that smaller drive at this point?
[03:11] <scoldog> Does anyone know why, when I set up my wireless network manually, it doesn't connect to the access point when I select WEP (hexadecimal), it only connects when I use WEP (ASCII)
[03:12] <tritium> scoldog: you're using network-manager on feisty?
[03:12] <luisbg> anybody in the room running ubuntu in a macbook?
[03:13] <scoldog> No, just the Network control panel.  Networkmanager is causing me a whole lot more problems
[03:13] <tonyds_> thanks for all your help.  I found a few things I will try now.
[03:13] <tritium> scoldog: you don't have atheros by chance, do you?
[03:13] <scoldog> Yep
[03:13] <scoldog> Acer laptop
[03:14] <tritium> scoldog: hmm, that's interesting.  I'm experiencing similar issues with AR5212 on Thinkpad T43p
[03:14] <anthony_> Okay, I'm editing partition #1 of IDE2 master (hdc).No existing file system was detected in this partition. Should I set the label as /?
[03:14] <scoldog> I have to admit, when it works, it works fine.  I'm using it now to talk to you
[03:14] <scoldog> It's just sometimes, when I do an update, it resets to WEP (Hexadecimal) for some reason
[03:15] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: labels are only for your ref - whatever you like
[03:15] <scoldog> Considering I don't have security, I wouldn't of though it mattered
[03:15] <scoldog> Have you tried setting yours up in Networkmanager, Tritium?
[03:15] <anthony_> Okay, then what do I set as the mount point, Frogzoo_?
[03:15] <tritium> scoldog: yes, both in n-w, and manually
[03:15] <scoldog> I've given up, Networkmanager seems to be very buggy
[03:16] <sokol_> help me
[03:16] <scoldog> Manual is the only way it works
[03:16] <burepe> I am mounting a hard drive with the live cd but I can't delete anything. How do I make it so I can delete stuff?
[03:16] <anthony_> Okay, this is making sense.
[03:16] <ddazedd> hey can someone just tell me what i need when i get this error error: Your libstdc++ doesn't have the sstream or strstream classes
[03:16] <sokol_> jest tu jakis polak??
[03:16] <scoldog> Is it a linux HDD burepe, or a Windows one (FAT or NTFS)?
[03:16] <burepe> linux
[03:16] <ikonia> ddazedd your version of libc doesn't have compatible functions with steam
[03:16] <keith> !pl
[03:16] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:17] <anthony_> Frogzoo_ does it make sense to set a partition up with 9.1 GB of space for the root file system?
[03:17] <ddazedd> ikonia, i just got latest libc 6.4 or whatever with synaptic
[03:17] <wastrel> "ubunut"
[03:17] <anthony_> Or should I make a smaller primary partition for that?
[03:17] <ikonia> ddazedd doesn't look compatible
[03:17] <scoldog> I had to do some stuffing around in the command line to give myself full access to an external linux HDD that I had
[03:17] <burepe> scoldog linx
[03:17] <ddazedd> hmm
[03:17] <Escalator> I just installed ubuntu but i cant login due to wrong password. I reinstalled ubuntu and took the same password and assured that it was spelled correctly but still i cant login. If i type the password in the username box it shows correctly and i even have checked uppercase and capslock options. Any idea on what may causing it?
[03:17] <sokol_> jak zalogowac sie na terminalu jako root
[03:17] <sokol_> czy da rade
[03:17] <sokol_> help
[03:18] <anthony_> Can I put /usr and swap both on the 3.2 GB hd, or isn't that enough space?
[03:18] <CheshireViking> !pl | sokol_
[03:18] <ubotu> sokol_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:18] <scoldog> Had to change some of the chmod permissions to give my user ownership of it, rather than root
[03:18] <burepe> I was wondering what language that was.
[03:18] <tritium> scoldog: clearly there is a bug somewhere, which I haven't isolated yet, but your input helps, for sure.  I'll test things out
[03:19] <ddazedd> ikonia, what do i need to do to make it compatible then
[03:19] <scoldog> I wish there was an easier way of doing it via a GUI
[03:19] <Alexandre> Hello guys!!!
[03:19] <ikonia> ddazedd I don't use steam so I've never looked
[03:19] <ddazedd> ok
[03:19] <CheshireViking> burepe, right click on the name, sometimes it gives a clue as to the country
[03:19] <afief> anthony_, depends on how you want to use your PC. it would be enough for me
[03:19] <afief> Alexandre, hi
[03:19] <scoldog> Just gotta be careful with the command line
[03:19] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: I said put / & swap on the 3gig
[03:20] <burepe> ah
[03:20] <Alexandre> I try install java like the guia , but o could't, some know some deb package to download?!?!??!
[03:20] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: 1 gig for /, 2gig for swap
[03:20] <Alexandre> afief: hi
[03:20] <Pici> !java | Alexandre
[03:20] <ubotu> Alexandre: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:20] <anthony_> Frogzoo_ they should both be primary partitions, right?
[03:20] <andcor> how can I view the quality and strength on the signal at my dvb-t card while I have to turn the antenna ?
[03:21] <scoldog> tritium, Apparently it's a common problem with Networkmanager.  You can get it to see your access point, but when you try and connect, it craps out.
[03:21] <Hamled> what would be some good packages to get for compiling a c application? I'm trying to compile this program, and it unable to find execvp
[03:22] <tritium> Hamled: build-essential
[03:22] <ikonia> Hamled can you provide the exact error message please
[03:22] <Pici> !build-essential | Hamled
[03:22] <ubotu> Hamled: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:22] <Hamled> thanks
[03:22] <scoldog> I just wish all the VPN connection tips out there didn't recommend Networkmanager for connecting to VPN's
[03:22] <tritium> scoldog: yes, I agree, it's likely in N-M
[03:22] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: yep
[03:23] <xst> I have created a new user account on my ubuntu box and has copied the .mozilla/ dir to the homedir of the new account. But firefox seems not to read it: E.g. my bookmarks are not transferred. What to do?
[03:23] <keith> xst: permissions/ownership problem?
[03:23] <xst> nope
[03:23] <Frogzoo_> Hamled: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:23] <anthony_> Frogzoo_There's a setting "bootable flag" set to off by default. Should that be changed on any of the partitions?
[03:24] <Pici> xst: Use the bookmark export and import process instead.
[03:24] <KI4IKL> OKay I still can't get this cd to boot, and it was done by a different program different cd and all.
[03:24] <john_watson> ubuntu 7.10 alpha had released!
[03:25] <ikonia> KI4IKL then your PC bios has not set to boot from the cd drive - or your drive is broke
[03:25] <ikonia> john_watson we know - this is the support channel for stable ubuntu builds
[03:25] <john_watson> ^_^
[03:25] <KI4IKL> The drive works...I just used it for a cd a min agi, i'll get the drive out of my mom's other pc and try it.
[03:25] <Pici> john_watson: use #ubuntu+1 if you need support with it.
[03:26] <john_watson> #ubuntu+1
[03:26] <scoldog> Another thing,  for some reason Synaptic can't connect to any Australian update sites (according to the Downloading Package information screen).  Is there anyway of purging these dead entries, or can I get it to update the list if the Aus servers have changed?
[03:26] <john_watson> how to use?...
[03:26] <Sir-Integra>  /join
[03:26] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: nope, not needed
[03:26] <anthony_> Frogzoo_ I set the mount point to / on one partition and swap on the other?
[03:27] <Frogzoo_> anthony_: correct
[03:27] <john_watson> no one in that channel -_-!
[03:27] <anthony_> I see an option for / but not for swap on the list, Frogzoo_
[03:27] <Pici> john_watson: I see 128 people there.
[03:27] <ikonia> john_watson yes ther is
[03:28] <ikonia> john_watson: your not in the channel
[03:28] <Pici> scoldog: Go through the /etc/apt/sources.list file and change the addresses, I'm guessing that they're au.ubuntu.com, change them to us or something you know will work.
[03:28] <ScottMac> hi guys can you pls help me? im having a lot of trouble changing my resolution once ive installed the nvidia restricted drivers
[03:29] <anthony_> The list only has /, /boot, /tmp, /usr, /var /srv, /opt, and /usr/local. How do I set a partition to swap?
[03:29] <novato_br> how can I do Xchat open the url with two mouse clicks ?
[03:29] <ikonia> anthony_ change the file system type to swap
[03:29] <Pici> anthony_:  Its in the filesystem type list
[03:29] <anthony_> Okay, let me try.
[03:29] <john_watson> anybody use virtualbox1.4?
[03:30] <sn0> john_watson yes
[03:30] <anthony_> ikonia I have to set the mount point to something, though, right? what is the setting for that?
[03:30] <john_watson> is it better then vm6.0?
[03:30] <ikonia> anthony_ you don't have to set the mount point for swap
[03:30] <sn0> vm6 has more to it, i dont miss much of the features in vm6 however :)
[03:30] <scoldog> Pici, Just had a gander at sources.list,  no mention of aus sites in there.  They're all archive.ubuntu.com sites
[03:30] <sn0> virtualbox does the job
[03:31] <sn0> you may miss them yourself
[03:31] <anthony_> Okay, do I select don't mount it?
[03:31] <ikonia> anthony_ no, there shouldn't be a mount option once you set the file system to swap
[03:32] <john_watson> i'm installing xp in vbox1.4
[03:33] <sn0> thats exactly what i did john_watson :-)
[03:34] <shamail> what is UBUNTU studio??
[03:34] <john_watson> but vbox1.4 is not suppot 64bit OS,like fedora7_amd64
[03:34] <yrlnry> Where's the best channel to ask questions about mplayer?  I have an A-V synchronization problem that I don't know how to fix.
[03:34] <ikonia> john_watson not if your host is 32 bnit
[03:34] <john_watson> but vm6.0 can support it
[03:34] <john_watson> my host is 64bit ubuntu
[03:34] <ikonia> john_watson I think you'll be fine then
[03:34] <anthony_> Okay, thanks, Ikonia and Frogzoo_ I've got a 1 GB partition as /, a 2 GB partition as swap, and I'm going over to the other HD to set up a partition for /usr, /var, and /home. I'll have more questions, I'm sure.
[03:35] <WeeJeWel> Is there a way to load windows through grub when you have already a windows boot menu?
[03:35] <ikonia> anthony_ swap them round 2 gig for / 1 gig for swap
[03:35] <sn0> john_watson i haven't tried but there is a 64bit version of virtualbox
[03:35] <john_watson> vm6.0 can support 64bit guest OS,but vbox1.4 can't
[03:35] <xst> I have made a clean ubuntu install (Feisty). Is there any easy way of getting most of the usual extra stuff (acroread, flashplayer, etc)?
[03:35] <sn0> Ubuntu 7.04 ("Feisty Fawn) i386 | AMD64
[03:35] <ikonia> WeeJeWel yup - the grub install guide will tell you how on the forum
[03:35] <WeeJeWel> xst- easybuntu
[03:35] <gilo1> I ask they same question every day hoping for an answer.  Does anyone know of a nice GUI for Snort and IPSec?
[03:35] <WeeJeWel> ok thx
[03:36] <xst> ok thanks
[03:36] <john_watson> vbox have 64bit version,but it can't support 64bit guest OS
[03:36] <ikonia> gilo1 check the snort site, I'm sure there is one
[03:36] <ikonia> gilo1 I wrote one for a client to view snort data, so I know they are out there
[03:36] <gilo1> I did check the snort site... I saw something about base, but didn't look easy to install.
[03:37] <anthony_> ikonia then why did Frogzoo_ tell me 1 gig for /, 2gig for swap?
[03:37] <WeeJeWel> xts- sorry, it was easyubuntu
[03:37] <anthony_> I mean which of you knows what you're talking about?
[03:37] <gilo1> I was hoping there was a nice easy package... I really like firestarter and gproftpd GUIs
[03:37] <ikonia> anthony_ not sure, 1 gig seems a little small even with /usr on a seperate file system
[03:37] <anthony_> So I should definitely change it.
[03:37] <anthony_> eh?
[03:37] <ikonia> anthony_ there is nothing wrong with 1 gig - its sjust seems a little tight and 2 gig swap seems generious considering your lack of disk space
[03:38] <ikonia> anthony_ both are right, its just personal preference
[03:38] <anthony_> I just want to see if I can get it running at the moment, so I think I'll leave it.
[03:38] <burepe> I am deleting things in a drive mounted with the live cd. The amount of space is not gettng larger even though I am deleting lots of stuff. And the trash in the live cd is empty. Is there a place that the stuff is going? how can I empty the trash?
[03:38] <jessie_the_jeste> anthony, i have 2 gigs of swap and it hardly ever gets used. i have 512 of ram.
[03:39] <sn0> john_watson maybe check their forum if you haven't already, but maybe stick to vm6 if not :] 
[03:39] <john_watson> OK
[03:39] <SlimG> gilo1: SnortCenter
[03:39] <flavioribeiro> wnz
[03:40] <rizhun> Hello, somebody is repeatedly trying to login to my server, using random usernames and passwords. How do I take him out?
[03:40] <gilo1> snortcenter?  I will look it up, thanks
[03:40] <ikonia> rizhun use tcp wrappers on your sshd daemon
[03:40] <anthony_> Now, ikonia, How much space for /usr on a 9.1 GB disk.
[03:40] <ikonia> anthony_  2 GB seems reasonable looking at your disk layout
[03:40] <rizhun> ikonia - huh?
[03:40] <flaviocpontes> Anyone knows of a dial-up USB modem that works well in feisty?
[03:40] <WeeJeWel> what would be the best filesystem for data storage that can be easily accessed by both win en unix?
[03:41] <anthony_> ikonia do I set it up as its own primary partition?
[03:41] <ikonia> rizhun use tcp wrappers (/etc/hosts.allow and hosts.deny) to resrtect ssh access
[03:41] <scoldog> Can ubuntu be used to build an internet proxy server?
[03:41] <ikonia> anthony_ the gparted option has an option that says "force as primary" as I recall
[03:41] <ikonia> scoldog totally
[03:41] <ikonia> brb
[03:41] <BandB> @ikonia: i guess so
[03:41] <rizhun> ikonia - I just put his IP in to hosts.deny, or do I need to set something in sshd_config
[03:42] <anthony_> There's an option to make it a primary or logical partitionn, ikonia.
[03:42] <Dr_willis> 
[03:42] <scoldog> ikonia, Sweet.  Do you have know of any sites that give instructions?
[03:42] <elYase> how do i configure TLS in Amsn
[03:42] <elYase> ?
[03:43] <MTecknology> Is there any good program in Linux to make database ERD's?
[03:43] <DJ-_-> any good proxy servers for ubuntu...I need features like maximum connections, bandwidth, user control etc
[03:43] <shamail> then best USB modem is your phone! from most of the brands! they all can be used as USB modem!
[03:43] <orangey> mediawiki
[03:43] <r00tintheb0x> hello all
[03:43] <ikonia> scoldog I am sure there is info on the ubuntu forums
[03:44] <scorp123> !remaster
[03:44] <scoldog> ikonia, OK, I'll have a look around.  Thanks
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <ikonia> scoldog search for squid
[03:44] <ikonia> !squid
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <MTecknology> !info remaster
[03:44] <ikonia> !proxy
[03:44] <ubotu> Package remaster does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:44] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[03:44] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[03:45] <scorp123> !w32
[03:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:45] <scorp123> !w32 codecs
[03:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:45] <DJ-_-> iknonia: any good proxy servers for ubuntu...I need features like maximum connections, bandwidth, user control etc
[03:45] <ikonia> DJ-_- squid is solid
[03:45] <scoldog> ikonia, I've dabbled with squid once or twice in the past.  Can it be setup via GUI, or is it mostly command line stuff?
[03:45] <anthony_> ikonia, will it work to set up primary partitions for /home and /var, and how much space shall I give them?
[03:45] <DJ-_-> ikonia: with all the options i need?
[03:45] <ikonia> scoldognot aware of a gui
[03:45] <ikonia> scoldognot NOT aware of a gui sorry
[03:45] <scorp123> !automatix2
[03:45] <adolson> I am trying to set up Feisty for a Linux newbie, and it is great - except for unmounting USB drives... it keeps saying cannot unmount volume - cannot delete directory. this is in the bug tracker already, more than once, and has been there for months.... does anyone know when this bug is going to be fixed?
[03:45] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:45] <ikonia> DJ-_- looksl ike it
[03:46] <DJ-_-> ikonia: thx
[03:46] <ikonia> anthony_ var a gig and home as much spare as you have
[03:46] <anthony_> Thanks ikonia.
[03:46] <scorp123> !repos
[03:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[03:46] <scorp123> !easysource
[03:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:46] <scoldog> adolson, I've had a similiar problem.  I've got a drive attached to my computer now that I can't eject even though I haven't touched it since I booted my comp
[03:47] <flaviocpontes> adolson: Must be a permission thing
[03:47] <adolson> no, it's a problem in hal or gnome-volume-manager.. they know about it, but aren't fixing it for some reason.
[03:47] <flaviocpontes> adolson: what is the USB stick FS:
[03:47] <flaviocpontes> ?
[03:47] <adolson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+bug/91854
[03:47] <adolson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/95368
[03:48] <corrupt> join
[03:48] <hamb> hi, i'm trying to change the resolution on my 2nd monitor, but nvidia's x server settings doesnt have it in its dropdown menu. my 2nd screen is a widescreen
[03:49] <elYase> any one has hadden the problem with Amsn TLS?
[03:50] <tim167> !wireless > tim167
[03:50] <yotux> does ubuntu have thunderbird 2.0 yet?
[03:50] <r00tintheb0x> Does anyone in here have any experience with Samba, Winbind, and Windows Active Directory and using it so that a NIS server can authenticate from the Windows AD server??
[03:50] <devcenter> hello,. guys
[03:50] <devcenter> how are you?
[03:51] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x AD and NIS at totally seperate
[03:51] <DJ-_-> elYase: post me the output of sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install amsn
[03:51] <DJ-_-> and use the pastebin
[03:51] <DJ-_-> !pastebin
[03:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:51] <hamb> i'm trying to change the resolution on my 2nd monitor, but nvidia's x server settings doesnt have it in its dropdown menu. my 2nd screen is a widescreen.
[03:51] <devcenter> i need to do a download movie into cinefree, anybody to do ir
[03:51] <devcenter> i need to do a download movie into cinefree, anybody to do it
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> ikonia, NIS can authinticate against a windows domain domain controller.
[03:52] <r00tintheb0x> Which AD is part of.
[03:52] <Thirdy> any recommendation for hex editor to change fonts?
[03:52] <scoldog> thanks for the help, everyone
[03:52] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x check what you mean - nis is an authentication system, so you'd have to gave nis using table maps from ad
[03:52] <ikonia> r00tintheb0x are you sure you don't mean pam and ldap  ?
[03:52] <avalys> when I call gpg -es on the command line, as root, it works fine (uses my default secret key).  when I use the exact same command in a cron job, it complains: gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[03:53] <elYase> DJ-_-, 0 paquetes actualizados, 0 nuevos instalados, 0 para eliminar y 6 sin actualizar.
[03:53] <elYase> Necesito descargar 0B de ficheros. Despus de desempaquetar se usarn 0B.
[03:53] <elYase> Escribiendo informacin de estado extendido... Hecho
[03:53] <elYase> DJ-_-, Amsn se instal correctamente
[03:53] <DJ-_-> ?
[03:53] <elYase> DJ-_-, Amsn installed correctly
[03:53] <Pici> !es | elYase
[03:53] <ubotu> elYase: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:53] <DJ-_-> and then
[03:54] <elYase> DJ-_-, then when i want to log in, it says i dont have TLS installed
[03:54] <hamb> does anyone here have any experience with dual monitors on an nvidia card?
[03:54] <DJ-_-> oh ok a sec
[03:54] <tim167> is it possible to get a UB11B Wireless 11b USB Adapter working on ubuntu ?
[03:54] <elYase> DJ-_-, i have followed some post but without succes
[03:54] <ikonia> hamb yup
[03:54] <DJ-_-> i see
[03:54] <DJ-_-> !tls
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <LadyNikon> tim167: have you googled to see if someone has it working?
[03:55] <ikonia> tim167 probably yes, personal opinion usb wirless cards are just weak on every level
[03:55] <hamb> how do i change the resolution on my 2nd monitor, if the resolution i need is not in the dropdown menu
[03:55] <tim167> LadyNikon, cant find much about it really
[03:55] <LadyNikon> ah
[03:55] <hamb> i need 1440x900, which shows up on the first monitor's drop down, but not the 2nd
[03:55] <MTecknology> Is there any guide to quickly installing and setting up samba so a virtual machine running under NAT can access folders on the host?
[03:55] <DJ-_-> pm > elYase
[03:56] <Fuzz> hi guys, can someone help me with sharing a printer thats on a ubuntu pc with a windows xp pc?
[03:56] <tim167> ikonia, are there any wireless usb adapters that are known to be an easy install on Feisty, I'm not planning to spend several hours on this...then i better get some other adapter...
[03:56] <ikonia> tim167 not that I'm aware of, but then again I don't use them as I believe its a poor interface for a network card
[03:56] <Fuzz> if your not too busy that is
[03:57] <Pirate_Hunter> I have just checked my apps menu and I see Debian Icon that has applications for Debian inside my Ubuntu... have no clue what I installed but now I want Debian off my Ubuntu - How can I uninstal it?
[03:57] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter you've not got debian on your box - its an icon thats all
[03:57] <tim167> ikonia, i wouldnt use it either, but i am doing an art installation in a place where they only have wireless, they cant give me a cable...
[03:57] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm trying to restart my network interfaces and i'm getting SIOCADDRT: Network is unreacable, Failed to bring up eth1. eth1 is nic on the Internet
[03:58] <Pirate_Hunter> nope it has applications of its own which replicate my icons that I have already at least some of the icons
[03:58] <ikonia> tim167 its weak of me to say but a pcmcia card ?
[03:58] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter its just an application with a debian icon - its not debian
[03:58] <topcat1028> hello, can somebody tell me which channel i should go to for help with my wireless card?
[03:58] <ikonia> topcat1028 ask your question if your on an ubuntu box
[03:58] <topcat1028> how do i do that?
[03:58] <ikonia> topcat1028 you ask your question
[03:59] <tim167> ikonia, if that would work well, why not or a PCI wireless interface, cause im using a desktop here...
[03:59] <ikonia> tim167 perfect option ! good call
[03:59] <ikonia> tim167 pretty much anything but usb
[03:59] <Fuzz> can someone help me with sharing a printer thats on a ubuntu pc with a windows xp pc?
[03:59] <topcat1028> can somebody help me with my wireless card or tell me where i should go to get help?
[03:59] <ikonia> topcat1028 ask the question about your card. I've said 2 times
[03:59] <tim167> ikonia, ok but then i have to go buy one, can you recommend one ?
[04:00] <ikonia> tim167 check the hardware compatiablity list on ubuntu.com - any support grab it with both hands
[04:00] <ikonia> !hcl > tim167
[04:00] <tim167> ikonia many thanks!
[04:00] <topcat1028> i have a netgear wg511 v2 on a dell inspiron 2500... im using xubuntu... when i plug in the card, the lights do not turn on, and xubuntu gives no indication of noticing it
[04:00] <Pirate_Hunter> I think I'm not expressing myself properly, on my apps menu when I installed Ubuntu Debian icon wasn't there, it is now, it has apps which I didn't have before by that last night, I would like to take it off as I don't see the need for Debian to be in Ubuntu or its extra apps
[04:00] <ikonia> tim167 welcome
[04:00] <ikonia> topcat1028 do an lspci and see if the ware is seen
[04:01] <ikonia> Pirate_Hunter you don't have debian on your system, you have either a debian window manager theme with icons or you have an application which has a debian based icon
[04:02] <disposable> on feisty-server, i followed help.ubuntu.com and tried to set up apache2 with SSL. when i finally restarted apache, i got SSLOptions: Illegal option 'CompatEnvVars'. i googled around but no answers, just questions. any help? my /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is at http://pastebin.ca/539769
[04:02] <topcat1028> ikonia, how do i do that... i typed lspci into terminal and it gave me a long list of stuff... i didnt see anything about my card
[04:03] <ikonia> topcat1028 if you don't see anything about your card that suggests the card is either dead or not installed on the system
[04:03] <Pirate_Hunter> kk lets say I have what you suggested, i understand, so it has replicated some of my default installed apps on ubuntu including terminal. It has also aplications which I knwo I didnt have last night. My issue here is that I don't want to see it I want to completely remove it
[04:03] <omnius> I have two NICs in my comp but i seem to be able to only connect on one
[04:03] <topcat1028> ikonia, how can i install it on the system?
[04:03] <ikonia> disposable the config file has an option CompatEnvVars that does not work
[04:03] <ikonia> topcat1028 plug it in
[04:03] <ikonia> omnius do both have an Ip address and the correct routing
[04:04] <omnius> not sure about routing but the ips are ok
[04:04] <ikonia> omnius what ip's do they have
[04:04] <topcat1028> ikonia, it is plugged in... so is it dead then?
[04:04] <ikonia> topcat1028 possibly
[04:04] <omnius> both are static
[04:04] <ikonia> omnius what are the ips's
[04:04] <topcat1028> ikonia, oh well, thanks anyways
[04:05] <Frogzoo> omnius: ifconfig shows them both?
[04:05] <artabrahao> how is possible reinstall ubuntu keeping the data files?
[04:05] <omnius> gateway 192.168.0.1  eth) 192.168.0.5 eth2 192.168.0.10
[04:05] <omnius> my nas is 192.168.0.20
[04:05] <disposable> ikonia, i understand that it doesn't work. but was in the guide so i put it in. i don't want to introduce compatibility issues to my system
[04:05] <ikonia> omnius they are both on the same subnet then
[04:05] <Frogzoo> omnius: different network numbers are needed
[04:05] <ikonia> disposable: what interface is the default gateway on (netstat -rn) will show it
[04:06] <ikonia> disposable well if that variable doesn't work - remove it
[04:06] <hamb> looking for any possible help getting my 2nd monitor's resolution changed, through nvidia-setting
[04:06] <ikonia> disposable asking people about it won't make it work
[04:06] <omnius> i cant change any router settings atm
[04:06] <DaBuzz> hello
[04:06] <ikonia> hamb the nvidia-settings application is dodgy on the dual monitor setup. you may have to edit the xorg config by hand
[04:06] <disposable> ikonia, the interface question was for me?
[04:06] <orbin> Pirate_Hunter: they're just categorised under a "debian" category in the menu.  go to sys > prefs > main menu and tweak away
[04:06] <ikonia> disposable no
[04:06] <disposable> ikonia, :)
[04:07] <ikonia> omnius you don't need to change any routing settings
[04:07] <omnius> what hsould the ips be?
[04:07] <hamb> ikonia: do you have a link showing how?
[04:07] <ikonia> omnius what do you mean what should the ip's be ??? your setting them, they are static
[04:07] <Thirdy> any good tutorials for hex editing?
[04:07] <ikonia> omnius why do you think you can't communicate on both cards
[04:08] <ikonia> hamb sorry I don't to hand. However the guys in #nvidia normally offer good specific advice if your not confident
[04:08] <hamb> thanks
[04:09] <omnius> i cant connect to my nas or login via webgui
[04:09] <ikonia> omnius ok - now we are geting somewhere
[04:09] <ikonia> omnius so thats not one card - thats both cards as both are on the same subnet
[04:09] <omnius> yep
[04:09] <DJ-_-> any way i can stream a webcam on a xp pc to ubuntu
[04:09] <omnius> in winblows i just bridge them both
[04:10] <ikonia> omnius so your question is "none of my network cards are working" is that right
[04:10] <ikonia> omnius do you mean "windows"
[04:10] <omnius> no
[04:10] <omnius> same same
[04:10] <anthony_> ikonia, When I'm finished installing from the alternate CD, I need to use the xubuntu CD to install xubuntu with the GUI, is that right?
[04:10] <ikonia> anthony_ no the alternate cd installs for you
[04:10] <ikonia> omnius so whats the rpoblem
[04:10] <ikonia> problem even
[04:11] <omnius> i can connect to the internet on eth0 but cannot connect to my nas on eth2, i tried pinging it with no sucsess
[04:11] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm having a similar problem as omnius, i have 2 nics, eth0 (internal, static ip), eth1 (external static ip), right now i don't have connectivity to the box.
[04:11] <DJ-_-> anyone know of a way how i can stream a live webcam on a xp box to ubuntu?
[04:11] <ikonia> omnius how are you trying to connect using your second card only
[04:11] <ubuntu-rocks> i'll try to put back the default gateway on the internal nic so i can pastebin my network config file
[04:12] <anthony_> ikonia so I can boot xubuntu from the hard drive and run it like normal after this installation?
[04:12] <ikonia> ubuntu-rocks one moment, one at a time please
[04:12] <ikonia> anthony_ correct
[04:12] <ubuntu-rocks> np, going to run make that change to my ubuntu and brb
[04:12] <anthony_> ikonia thanks.
[04:12] <omnius> i want to use both, i tried bridge-utils once that bridge them but then i couldn't connect to the net or my nas
[04:12] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: where are you attempting to connect from? from where to where?
[04:12] <ikonia> omnius right - ok you want to use both cards (why ???)
[04:13] <omnius> i only have 1 connection and 1 30M cable to the router i use
[04:14] <ikonia> omnius if you only have 1 cable - how are you expecting to use two network cards ?
[04:14] <bulmer> hehehe
[04:14] <omnius> the other card is hooked up to my server
[04:14] <Frogzoo> omnius: you could do nic bonding if your switch/router supports it
[04:14] <ikonia> omnius so if you have two network cards plugged into difference sockets how do you expect both to work
[04:15] <ikonia> Frogzoo he's not, he's got them plugged dirrectly in
[04:15] <omnius> why wouldn't they?
[04:15] <ikonia> omnius because a.) your plugging a card direct into a server - its got nowhere to go but to the server
[04:15] <ikonia> omnius am I missunderstanding what your trying to do ?
[04:16] <devcenter> hello guys
[04:16] <DJ-_-> i m tired of this,.....what is the best software available to burn dvds and cds
[04:16] <bulmer> Fogzoo didnt the server install have that feature..dual nic and nic bondig feature where each nic is possibly connected to diff routers?
[04:16] <Frogzoo> DJ-_-: k3b
[04:16] <klien6> cicilia_sby21@yahoo.com
[04:16] <omnius> usually on windows when i bridge them both eg. MAC bridge tey go both ways and i can use them like one NIC
[04:16] <ikonia> bulmer you can't bond to different routes
[04:16] <Frogzoo> bulmer: you can't bond connecting to different routers, so no
[04:17] <devcenter> what program do you use to make dvd + subtitles
[04:17] <ikonia> omnius ok - so you want to bond them together on the same nic
[04:17] <DJ-_-> Frogzoo: sudo apt-get k3b?
[04:17] <DJ-_-> install*
[04:17] <Frogzoo> DJ-_-: aye
[04:17] <omnius> pretty much
[04:17] <Frogzoo> omnius: you can do bonding same as windows
[04:17] <DJ-_-> ok
[04:17] <Frogzoo> omnius: something like: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-bond-or-team-multiple-network-interfaces-nic-into-single-interface.html
[04:17] <ikonia> omnius: are you connecting to your server with a cross-over cable ?
[04:17] <omnius> cheers
[04:17] <RabidWeezle> any laptop users here? Trying to use my vga out on feisty, and I'm getting a blank screen on the monitor when I switch to vga out
[04:17] <devcenter> i used mandvd into kde, and for gnome
[04:17] <omnius> yeah x-over
[04:18] <RabidWeezle> This laptop was tested in win2k that the vga out works
[04:18] <ikonia> omnius ok, in that case I'd advise not using bonding
[04:18] <ikonia> omnius I'd advise just setup routing properly
[04:18] <icanic> I-m new with ubuntu
[04:18] <RabidWeezle> congrads icanic :)
[04:18] <omnius> net------->router------>eth0(my Comp)eth2--------->NAS
[04:18] <icanic> can someone please tell me what installation extension do I use for ubuntu_
[04:18] <icanic> brb
[04:19] <ikonia> omnius spot on - make your server act as a proxy/forwarder
[04:19] <omnius> i would but its FreeNAS BSD
[04:19] <omnius> very limited
[04:19] <RabidWeezle> icanic, what installation extension? don't understand you there
[04:19] <ikonia> omnius thats not a problem
[04:19] <erUSUL> icanic: installation extension ??
[04:19] <Frogzoo> omnius: so put eth0 & eth2 on diff subnets
[04:19] <ikonia> omnius not limited, join the freenas support groups and they'll walk you through it
[04:20] <omnius> ok thanks
[04:20] <SlimG> omnius: #freenas
[04:21] <intrepidus> is there a way to use an older version of g++ on ubuntu? build-essentials is giving me issues.
[04:21] <bulmer> what is that feature on server that allows redundancy path if you had two nics, like fault tolerant..? what software you need to have that enabled? GRE?
[04:21] <ikonia> bulmer thats bonding really
[04:21] <RabidWeezle> intrepidus, goto properties of g++ in synaptic, I think there's a version tool in there
[04:21] <erUSUL>  intrepidus install directly the aviable g++ you want i think that there is a 3.x.x version
[04:21] <kuroi-ubuntu> hello
[04:22] <BandB> hi
[04:22] <bulmer> ikonia wasnt that a feature to select during install?
[04:22] <ikonia> bulmer don't think so
[04:22] <SlimG> intrepidus: sudo aptitude install g++=<old version>
[04:22] <RabidWeezle> nice slim :)
[04:22] <intrepidus> Well, I've got the old versions installed, but it defualts to 4.1 still...how do you get around that?
[04:22] <andcor>  how can I view the quality and strength on the signal at my dvb-t card while I have to turn the antenna ?
[04:23] <ikonia> andcor move teh arial see if the picture gets btter
[04:23] <ikonia> better
[04:23] <spikeb> gentoo killed the compile in ya, eh?
[04:23] <RabidWeezle> yeah
[04:23] <icanic> I mean file extension
[04:23] <erUSUL> intrepidus: export CC=gcc-version or export CCP=g++-version i guess
[04:23] <Frogzoo> bulmer: called nic bonding: http://www.howtoforge.com/nic_bonding
[04:23] <icanic> sorrz I was AFK
[04:23] <hylje> i compile stuff all the time
[04:23] <RabidWeezle> when it takes 3 days to install the distro...
[04:24] <TOoSmOotH> anyone know how to install new fonts? and not via synaptic.. I have a specific font I would like to add.
[04:24] <intrepidus> It only takes a few hours, it's not -that- bad :P
[04:24] <intrepidus> Once you've done it fifty times.
[04:24] <icanic> tar, gz etc
[04:24] <bulmer> Frogzoo: thanks
[04:24] <spikeb> haha
[04:24] <SlimG> !tell intrepidus about who
[04:24] <RabidWeezle> ubotu, fonts | TOoSmOotH
[04:24] <ubotu> TOoSmOotH: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[04:25] <SunDevil> can anyone help me? i can't seem to install current talker :)
[04:26] <TOoSmOotH> thnx!
[04:26] <intrepidus> erUSUL, didn't have any luck there. Still 4.1.
[04:26] <RabidWeezle> np TOoSmOotH  :)
[04:26] <RabidWeezle> SunDevil, source, deb, or apt?
[04:26] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer- i'm trying to setup a lamp server
[04:26] <don_>  !tar
[04:26] <SunDevil> rabid source
[04:26] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[04:27] <intrepidus> 4.1 just throws some bizarre errors when I try to compile, and it's frustrating that I can't easily downgrade. :/
[04:27] <erUSUL> intrepidus: export CC=gcc-3.4 make does not work ??
[04:27] <RabidWeezle> did the compiler throw a weird error at you SunDevil ?
[04:27] <ubuntu-rocks> i just removed the default gateway for the internal nic (eth0)
[04:27] <intrepidus> erUSUL, nope.
[04:28] <SunDevil> rabid while doing the ./configure, the error msg says it couldn't find pidgin
[04:29] <RabidWeezle> ahh, do you have pidgin installed?
[04:29] <SunDevil> rabid yeah i have it...pidgin 2.01
[04:29] <RabidWeezle> hrm...
[04:29] <RabidWeezle> I would post this to their forums
[04:29] <erUSUL> intrepidus: export CC=$(which g++-3.4) ; ./configure; make ??
[04:29] <ubuntu-rocks> i can ssh to the box now on the internal lan. i just can't seem to load the external nic (eth1)
[04:29] <SunDevil> rabid can you point me to their forums?
[04:30] <tingle> whats a easy to set up ftp deamon for local user? but i needs to be SECURE!
[04:31] <dfernando> install Vsftpd
[04:31] <Dr_willis> tingle,  ssh tunnles to secure it. but  It depends on your real needs. Proberly best to just use ssh/scp/and so forth
[04:31] <theholyduck> haha.. im still running herd 4 on this laptop
[04:31] <erUSUL> tingle: ftp and secure in the same sentence does not make sense ;) use ssh's scp
[04:31] <intrepidus> erUSUL, same bizarre errors as before on code that I know compiles normally. (export CC=gcc-3.3, ./configure, make)
[04:31] <theholyduck> i didnt even notice
[04:31] <dfernando> use Vsftpd or scp
[04:31] <RabidWeezle> SunDevil, any url's in the docs?
[04:32] <tingle> Dr_willis: erUSUL, how does that work?
[04:32] <dfernando> any one can help me on ati graphics
[04:32] <erUSUL> intrepidus: but it did used the 3.3 compiler, didn't it?
[04:32] <RabidWeezle> check the readme if there is one
[04:32] <RabidWeezle> :/
[04:32] <SunDevil> rabid not that i can see
[04:32] <intrepidus> erUSUL, no, 4.1
[04:32] <dfernando> y a til du francais???
[04:32] <RabidWeezle> where did you get talker?
[04:32] <erUSUL> intrepidus: export CC=$(which g++-3.4) ; ./configure; make <<< did you tried this form ??
[04:32] <ikonia> !fr >dfernando
[04:32] <Dr_willis> tingle,  depends on what you are wanting to do.   Theres gui front ends to ssh that let ya copy things easialy enough
[04:32] <voodoo> hi
[04:33] <intrepidus> erUSUL, giving that a shot. One second.
[04:33] <voodoo> what is the channel in spanish?
[04:33] <dfernando> ikonia
[04:33] <dfernando> tu parles francais?
[04:33] <ikonia> dfernando what ?
[04:33] <erUSUL> !es | voodoo
[04:33] <ubotu> voodoo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:33] <voodoo> ok
[04:33] <ubuntu-rocks> here is my network config and the error i get, http://apache.pastebin.ca/550686
[04:33] <tingle> Dr_willis: do you know what packages i need to install for that? i made a minimal ubuntu install so im sure ssh issent installed yet
[04:33] <SunDevil> rabid from here http://software.johnroark.net/
[04:33] <erUSUL> !ssh | tingle
[04:33] <ubotu> tingle: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:33] <Dr_willis> !ssh
[04:33] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:34] <tingle> thanks :D
[04:34] <intrepidus> erUSUL, same story.
[04:34] <erUSUL> Dr_willis: too slow ;P
[04:34] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search ssh   also :)
[04:34] <RabidWeezle> there you go SunDevil click the forums link there
[04:34] <RabidWeezle> :/
[04:35] <holodad> any help on ATI cards please
[04:35] <RabidWeezle> you can probly get an answer in the gaim plugins forums
[04:35] <erUSUL> intrepidus: well i'm out of ideas the export shuld work...
[04:35] <tingle> could i use scp external too?
[04:35] <RabidWeezle> holodad, what's your ati problem?
[04:35] <tingle> if yes what port should open?
[04:35] <intrepidus> erUSUL, s'ok. Thanks for the help. I'm installing Gentoo right now, so I'll be alright in a few minutes. :)
[04:35] <SunDevil> rabid do you have any other plugins that work to recommend?
[04:35] <RabidWeezle> I don't use gaim
[04:35] <RabidWeezle> I got a K app I use
[04:36] <holodad> thanks RabidWeezle. everything is fine for me except the TVout resolution
[04:36] <Jared|Linux> What command can I use to check what distro I hvae?
[04:36] <RabidWeezle> I haven't tried mine yet
[04:36] <RabidWeezle> :/
[04:36] <SunDevil> rabid ok...thanks..
[04:36] <erUSUL> Jared|Linux: lsb_release -a
[04:36] <RabidWeezle> np, sorry I am not that helpfull yet this morning
[04:36] <holodad> i need to get two resolution. 1 for  the laptop 1280x800 and one for the TV 1024x768
[04:36] <tingle> if i use scp does the sending and recieving machine need both openssh-server?
[04:37] <RabidWeezle> Hey holodad, on your laptop, can you get your vga out workin?
[04:37] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: i was away for a moment, so you want to create a LAMP server, what is the issue again?
[04:37] <RabidWeezle> cause that's why I'm here lol
[04:37] <holodad> yes but the tv resolution is too big
[04:37] <RabidWeezle> I can't get mine to actually output my desktop
[04:37] <bulmer> tingle: yes they are needed at both ends
[04:37] <erUSUL> tingle: only the server one (the one you are copying from/to files)
[04:38] <RabidWeezle> do you need to plug it in and restart X or something?
[04:38] <Escalator> is there an easy way to use a dual screen setup in ubuntu where screen 1 is on vga card A and screen 2 is on vga card B?
[04:38] <bulmer> tingle scratch it, erUSUL is correct
[04:38] <YogSothoth> Hi
[04:38] <holodad> no. It works in a plug and play
[04:38] <holodad> i can see dual screen
[04:38] <RabidWeezle> damn, I must have a bad setting in my config after I edited it
[04:39] <tingle> hehe oke thanks
[04:39] <holodad> but the tv takes the laptop resolution and it's to big
[04:39] <YogSothoth> I want to create an invoice template in PDF, and integrate some SVG graphics in the document. What is the best software to do that?
[04:39] <Kilty> Could anyone suggest a good program for newsgroups ?
[04:39] <tim167> hi, (ikonia are you here)? i got a pci network card, a sitecom wl-171, it shows in the System>Network interface and it says 'roaming activated' does that mean it's working? i can't get online but maybe thats because i still need to enter some key or wap ... for the connection here...I can return the card should it prove unusable...
[04:39] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - i can only get my internal nic going, the ext nic eth1 doesn't want to start. i'm getting a SIOCADDRT :network is unreachable error when i try to restart the networking
[04:40] <holodad> i really need to setup two different resolution. One for the laptop and one for the tv
[04:40] <ALMimoni> mplayer does not play .AVI files ?
[04:40] <erUSUL> !mp3 | ALMimoni
[04:40] <ubotu> ALMimoni: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:40] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: can you describe the connectivity layout?
[04:40] <chocobanana> can somebody help me and explain why my laptop temporarily freezes from time to time?
[04:40] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer, http://apache.pastebin.ca/550686
[04:41] <ALMimoni> mplayer does not play .AVI files ? but totem does.
[04:41] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - that is my network config file for the ubuntu box
[04:41] <bulmer> chocobanana: umm..anything that waits for external i/o usually makes you wait and feels its freezing on you til it timeouts
[04:41] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: i need the wiring layout for now
[04:41] <chocobanana> bulmer: do you have any idea on where might be the trouble?
[04:42] <bulmer> chocobanana: you understood what i meant by external i/o right? either to your hd, usb, network..etc
[04:43] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - the internal nic (eth0) is connected to our lan, the external nic (eth1) is on a switch which we have our Internet on.
[04:43] <Pirate_Hunter> hi im back, sorry had to pop out quickly - Question: just installed Office 2003 and I don't know where to find it
[04:43] <ALMimoni> mplayer does not play .AVI files ? but totem does.
[04:43] <chocobanana> bulmer: affirmative, though it is still vague. I'm currently monitoring dmesg, messages and xorg.o.log
[04:44] <chocobanana> I'm trying to fish some weird message
[04:44] <holodad> salut
[04:44] <Pirate_Hunter> where would my windows office programs be found
[04:45] <bulmer> chocobanana: for comparison, my system freezes if the network neither timeouts, my app is awaiting for that socket to close and uses up the resources but never lets go
[04:45] <RabidWeezle> did you use wine Pirate_Hunter ?
[04:46] <DJ-_-> switching another p3 to linux :D
[04:46] <Pirate_Hunter> nah crossover
[04:46] <ALMimoni> I can't see mplayer skins after install?
[04:46] <Pirate_Hunter> I dont know how to use wine
[04:46] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: umm your eth1 is not coming up at all? is it a good nic card? what happens if you reconfigure and switch the connections between eth0 and eth1 physically that is?
[04:46] <RabidWeezle> Pirate_Hunter, check your home folder, it's proly like ~/.crossover or something like that
[04:46] <Pirate_Hunter> will do so tell you in a sec
[04:47] <DJ-_-> but one problem...I am using the minimal cd and it download is bad...always have to retry :S
[04:47] <RabidWeezle> basically check ~/,crossover/drive_c/Program Files/Office or something like that
[04:47] <RabidWeezle> make sure you can see hidden folders
[04:47] <RabidWeezle> because it would be a hidden folder
[04:48] <DJ-_-> !crossover
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - nope.  eth1,the card is brand new and it does work. the gateway address is the one provided by our isp. the card is brand new. i haven't tried that but i'm 99% sure it works
[04:48] <Pirate_Hunter> nope not in my home and on my file system I dont even know where to search for ofice 2003
[04:48] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: also, that "network" line on your interfaces..i have not come across on the usage of that
[04:48] <holodad>  no ideas RabidWeezle?
[04:48] <smoodogg> I just started using Ubuntu and it is awsome!  It is everything I was looking fo.  Thanks to all you guys who made it possible
[04:48] <DJ-_-> Pirate_Hunter: one question why dont u give openoffice a try? it allows to save in windows recognizable formats too
[04:48] <ubuntu-rocks> i stole that from another gentoo box, i'll comment it out
[04:49] <Pirate_Hunter> Just not the same tried it and the project Im doing it is halfway done for me to start again on open office
[04:49] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - i'm commented out the network line but i have the same error message
[04:49] <DJ-_-> Pirate_Hunter: oh ok, wish u gt back to openoffice as soon as ur done :D
[04:49] <DJ-_-> and welcome to linux :D
[04:50] <J-_> just save the document in a .doc, and open it back up in openoffice.
[04:50] <J-_> as*
[04:50] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: can you do this.. ifdown eth1; ifup eth1
[04:50] <bulmer> as root off course
[04:50] <Pirate_Hunter> I know what im asking is a hassle but I actually needed it, its what I do for a living and right now finding where my office has been installed would be handy
[04:50] <holodad> qui a une carte ati xpress200???
[04:50] <DJ-_-> Pirate_Hunter: what prog did u use to install office
[04:51] <Pirate_Hunter> I used crossover
[04:51] <ikonia> just use open office
[04:51] <DJ-_-> Pirate_hunter: it aint a hassle thats what dis room is for they help u with a problem u have..i.e. any problem
[04:51] <ikonia> there is no reason to use microsoft office apart from visio
[04:51] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - for ifdown, i get interface eth1 not configured.  ifup eth1 gives me SIOCADDRT: network is unreachable
[04:51] <DJ-_-> Pirate_hunter: a sec i gotta research crossover a bit
[04:51] <iwkse> hi all, anybody knows some project which implement the skype protocol? (only chat)
[04:51] <bulmer> Pirate_Hunter: office 2003?  umm normally look for "Documents and Settings" folder if in windows
[04:52] <Pirate_Hunter> tanx for that comment, and I will wait for a reply
[04:52] <ikonia> iwkse skype does
[04:52] <iwkse> ikonia: i don't want skype
[04:52] <ikonia> iwkse its closed protocol
[04:52] <Pirate_Hunter> hopefully if i can slowly merge all my working habits to Ubuntu I cna get rid of all windows apps
[04:52] <iwkse> ikonia: mm..i think i saw some specifics somewhere
[04:52] <ikonia> !skype
[04:52] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:52] <iwkse> ikonia: maybe reversed
[04:52] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: can you use the network manager to configure eth1? which card /brand is it? and your os is 32bit right not 64-bit?
[04:53] <iwkse> RabidWeezle: skype sucks cause uses qt :p
[04:53] <don_> YogSothoth :  Have u tried Open Office Writer?
[04:53] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - i'm only running command line. the card is an intel pro/1000 GT desktop adapter. i have 4 of them. 3 in use already on other boxes
[04:54] <ikonia> iwkse I don't think it does use QT
[04:54] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - i'm running fiesty
[04:54] <Katu> i need help about ndiswrapper
[04:54] <Pirate_Hunter> Can I use terminal command locate "just remembered someone yesterday asked me to do this"
[04:54] <fortitUs> hi does someone know where i can find the idle CPU % that is displayed by top?
[04:54] <reppel> Hi, is it possible to embed a non-compressed initramfs into the kernel? by default it is compressed two times (1 for the initramfs + 1 for the vmlinuZ image)
[04:54] <ikonia> fortitUs what do you mean find it ?
[04:55] <ikonia> reppel not really its read in that forat
[04:55] <ikonia> format
[04:55] <DJ-_-> Pirate_Hunter: try it
[04:55] <fortitUs> ikonia i need to get a value for that to compare the relative CPU speeds over many computers
[04:55] <iwkse> ikonia: no? i think it does
[04:55] <fortitUs> the idle CPU
[04:55] <reppel> klobster: uhmm what a waste
[04:55] <fortitUs> is there somethin under /proc?
[04:55] <ikonia> fortitUs just type top and it shows the idle use
[04:56] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: can you just make sure that nic really works, reconfigure and switch the two nics physical connectivity just for kicks, see if it makes a diff
[04:56] <ikonia> fortitUs the idels is guaged out of a calculation
[04:56] <fortitUs> ikonia: i need to read the idle use in a program
[04:56] <fortitUs> dammit
[04:56] <screechingcat> can someone help me connect to an MTP mp3 player ?
[04:56] <ikonia> fortitUs ahhh I see.
[04:56] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - will do that now
[04:56] <holodad> kattu
[04:56] <holodad> what(s your pb
[04:56] <fortitUs> ikonia: any ideas?
[04:56] <wesley__> hi
[04:56] <ikonia> fortitUs I'll have to have a little ponder on that
[04:56] <fortitUs> thanks :D
[04:57] <iwkse> ikonia: skype depends on libqt3c102-mt
[04:57] <SunDevil> can anyone recommend anything that's good to monitor your wireless connection?
[04:57] <bulmer> fortitUs: try proc/loadavg
[04:57] <rOb3rt> i need help
[04:57] <fortitUs> thanks
[04:57] <ikonia> iwkse how strange, I would have bet money qt was not on my desktop
[04:57] <iwkse> :)
[04:57] <rOb3rt> my ubuntu need ncurse library
[04:57] <fortitUs> um.. bulmeer
[04:58] <iwkse> ikonia: try ldd /usr/bin/skype
[04:58] <screechingcat> ive tried amarok , banshee and mtpsync. nothing seems to be detecting it. its a samsung yp-k3
[04:58] <rOb3rt> anyone help me about ncurse library ?
[04:58] <ikonia> iwkse not on my desktop, I don't doubt you. I'm just surprised
[04:58] <nox-Hand> I am going to assume that the fact that my Ubuntu Server has been hanging at "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" for ten minutes indicates a problem, right? ;)
[04:58] <ikonia> rOb3rt just ask the question
[04:58] <anthony_> ikonia and Frogzoo_ I have xubuntu up and running finally, with no experience whatsoever. Thanks for all your coaching. I never would have done it alone.
[04:58] <fortitUs> bulmer is there a place where i can tell what all those numbers mean?
[04:58] <rOb3rt> ikonia i already ask the question theres an error looking for ncurse library
[04:58] <ikonia> anthony_ your welcome
[04:58] <Katu> holodad: i am having hard time installing wifi drivers thru ndiswrapper :(
[04:59] <ikonia> rOb3rt what are you trying to do
[04:59] <Frogzoo> nox-Hand: did you add stuff to rc.local? if the script doesn't terminate , booting won't continue
[04:59] <rOb3rt> run menuconfig
[04:59] <bulmer> fortitUs: probably, you need to google for systems programming /proc filesystem and such
[04:59] <ikonia> fortitUs check out "sar" or vmstat
[04:59] <nox-Hand> Frogzoo: Hmn, I did not
[04:59] <ikonia> rOb3rt why ?
[04:59] <nox-Hand> Not afaik anyway
[04:59] <robg> can someone help a ubuntu newbie w/install?
[04:59] <rOb3rt> im running psybnc
[04:59] <fortitUs> vmstat isnt what i am looking for :)
[04:59] <nox-Hand> Not within last two weeks anyway
[04:59] <rOb3rt> probably
[04:59] <fortitUs> it gives the compounded idle
[04:59] <ikonia> fortitUs try sar
[04:59] <ikonia> rOb3rt why do you need make menuconfig
[04:59] <OuZo> !upgrade
[04:59] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:59] <DJ-_-> brb
[05:00] <Katu> can anyone help me install wifi card thru ndiswrapper please
[05:00] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - tried that and the intel nic is working on the lan, getting the same error for the builtin nic
[05:00] <rOb3rt> yah to config ur psybnc u have to make menuconfig
[05:00] <rOb3rt> i have to set my identity to x
[05:00] <ikonia> rOb3rt why ? why do you need to run make menucofnig ? thats just a kernel compalitation interface
[05:00] <rOb3rt> before i run my process
[05:00] <fortitUs> ikonia
[05:00] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: so it seems your dsl or modem or t1 dsu may not be working well?
[05:00] <rOb3rt> then what do i do to run my psybnc then
[05:01] <ikonia> rOb3rt an application should never need make menuconfig as it just updates the .config file
[05:01] <cr3_> how do I make terminal TRULY transparent? I mean, force it to show not only rendered background, but also windows and icons?
[05:01] <ikonia> fortitUs pardon
[05:01] <rOb3rt> i already update everything
[05:01] <robg> can someone help a ubuntu newbie with install?
[05:01] <rOb3rt> but it seems error still prompt me up
[05:01] <rOb3rt> about this ncruse library
[05:01] <Dr_willis> cr3_,  use beryl and that other eye candy stuff I think for TRUE transparency
[05:01] <fortitUs> ikionia: um where does sar get that idle data from T_T?
[05:01] <ikonia> rOb3rt an application should not need make menuconfig as that just updates the .config file
[05:01] <Dr_willis> of course that makes text real unreadable
[05:02] <ikonia> fortitUs it gathers stats into a database then works out the average idle - almost the same as top
[05:02] <not_a_k> i have a dual head ati video card and an onboard nvidia. is there any chance in hell of me getting a triple head setup with this?
[05:02] <cr3_> Dr_willis, i don't want beryl.. :P
[05:02] <rOb3rt> so tell me how can i run psybnc and skip that ncurse library
[05:02] <ikonia> not_a_k it would be a mega fight
[05:02] <fortitUs> oh
[05:02] <fortitUs> crappy :(
[05:02] <ikonia> rOb3rt tell me what command your running - and what the error is
[05:02] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - maybe, but i'm using our new Internet connection.  I connected the physical cable to a laptop so it works. right now i have the Internet connection connected to a switch and i've connected the ubuntu box to the same switch to get a public connection
[05:02] <fortitUs> i suppose i will just compare by load averages?
[05:02] <ikonia> fortitUs not what your after ?
[05:02] <fortitUs> will that work?
[05:02] <ikonia> fortitUs yeah, thats do-able
[05:02] <fortitUs> ikonia: impossible to implement :P
[05:02] <X-Willer> how can i make Ubuntu start gdesklets always when i start the computer?
[05:02] <rOb3rt> this the command -> maka menuconfig
[05:03] <rOb3rt> make menuconfig **
[05:03] <not_a_k> ikonia: yeah, i've been twidling with xinerama without much luck.
[05:03] <ikonia> rOb3rt I'll say it again, an application should not require make menucofnig
[05:03] <nox-Hand> is there a way to start Ubuntu without it running local boot scripts?
[05:03] <rOb3rt> aw
[05:03] <fortitUs> gah dammit
[05:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Hi back again, well can't find where my office 3003 is stored command locate is not helping. So if I install it again would it create a new version somewhere else or would it overwrite the old one cause i don't want two versions of office 2003
[05:03] <rOb3rt> so why i cant run my psybnc
[05:03] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: so i narrow it down to your config, can you repaste the new config after you switched the two ?
[05:04] <screechingcat> how do i get an mtp device working with ubuntu ?
[05:04] <fortitUs> loadavg gives past 1 minute time
[05:04] <rOb3rt> and looking for ncruse library
[05:04] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer, will do
[05:04] <X-Willer> how can i make Ubuntu start gdesklets always when i start the computer?
[05:04] <Katu> can anyone please help me one on one thru pm about installing wifi cards on ndiswrapper please
[05:04] <rOb3rt> my ubuntu is up to date
[05:04] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - http://apache.pastebin.ca/550765
[05:04] <ikonia> rOb3rt I'll say it again, an application should not require make menucofnig
[05:05] <fortitUs> thanks alot everyone :D
[05:05] <rOb3rt> running psybnc is require
[05:05] <fortitUs> especially bullmer and ikonia
[05:05] <robg> I can't get 7.04 to start
[05:05] <ikonia> rOb3rt an application should not require make menu config as it does nothing
[05:05] <ikonia> rOb3rt: show me the process your following
[05:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Hi back again, well can't find where my office 3003 is stored command locate is not helping. So if I install it again would it create a new version somewhere else or would it overwrite the old one cause i don't want two versions of office 2003
[05:06] <rOb3rt> alright ill be back and show the error
[05:06] <sipior> nox-Hand: yes, you can rename the file /etc/rc2.d/S99rc.local as /etc/rc2.d/K99rc.local
[05:06] <sipior> nox-Hand: assuming your default runlevel is 2, of course (the default on an ubuntu install, at any rate)
[05:07] <nox-Hand> sipior: righ
[05:07] <Pirate_Hunter> lol sorry if i am becoming annoying just went into config in crossover and the bottle I created for office 20003 is there, now how can I find the installed path?
[05:07] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: can you comment out the auto eth0 and bring up the interface with ifup eth0
[05:08] <ambros> hi
[05:08] <ambros> all
[05:09] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - get the following
[05:09] <ubuntu-rocks> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[05:09] <ubuntu-rocks> Failed to bring up eth0.
[05:09] <jhasse> How can i get the device file name from a UUID?
[05:09] <Pirate_Hunter> just went into config in crossover and the bottle I created for office 20003 is there, now how can I find the installed path?
[05:10] <erUSUL> jhasse: blkid | grep UUID
[05:10] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - fyi, i can't ping the isp's router either, says "network is unreachable"
[05:11] <jhasse> erUSUL: cool! What's the easiest way to use this in a python script?
[05:11] <ubuntu-rocks> offtopic question about mirc, how do i disable the "xxxx" has joined messages?
[05:12] <Pici> ubuntu-rocks: mirc? no idea...
[05:12] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - here is the output of route -n   http://apache.pastebin.ca/550790
[05:12] <erUSUL> jhasse: i think that easiest way will be to use th output of ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid/ (follow the link)
[05:13] <artabrahao> when removing or installing a package appears xxx segmentation fault  stty -a 2>/dev/null
[05:13] <don_> ubuntu-rocks : try right clicking on the channel tab
[05:13] <kylefox> Can someone point me to a doc / tutorial for how to set up a simple file-sharing network between ubuntu feisty fawn and mac os 10.4?  I can't seem to find what i'm looking for
[05:14] <sn0> kylefox right click the folder > share ? :)
[05:14] <jhasse> erUSUL: ah. Is there a way to display the absolute path?
[05:14] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: it has not gateway, so your config file is not correct. as someone suggested use the network manager
[05:14] <sn0> that will prompt you to install/enable samba which osx supports as well
[05:14] <ubuntu-rocks> don_ , tks
[05:14] <kylefox> sn0: right but then how do I connect to is?
[05:14] <kylefox> it*
[05:14] <sn0> otherwise you could maybe check into scp , which is part of the ssh server/client package
[05:14] <bulmer> no* gateway
[05:14] <don_> np
[05:14] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - isn't network manager gui though?
[05:14] <erUSUL> jhasse: dunno, check the file handle python api
[05:14] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: yes..
[05:14] <jhasse> erUSUL: ok
[05:15] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - i only have command line on this box, no gui
[05:15] <sn0> kylefox in osx the same way you would connect to any other network with shared files
[05:15] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please, I cna see the bottle that was created for office 2003, the application has been installed (crossover config menu shows that) but I dont know the path to actually access it, how can I find the path for the bottle or the application
[05:16] <aro_ron> hey all, I need some help installing 7.04.
[05:16] <ubuntu-user2345> can someone help me
[05:16] <ubuntu-user2345> [*]  Creating Menu, please wait.
[05:16] <ubuntu-user2345> This needs the ncurses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. If you are using curses, use make menuconfig-curses instead.
[05:16] <kmaynard> aro_ron, ?
[05:16] <aro_ron> I have been playing around with Ubuntu since 6.06, but I have not been able to get 7.04 to load properly
[05:16] <kmaynard> Pirate_Hunter, try a crossover channel
[05:16] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - i only have command line on this box, no gui
[05:16] <aro_ron> I installed it fine, so it seems, but when I select it from the GRUB menu, it dosent boot
[05:16] <kmaynard> aro_ron, try the alternate install disk
[05:16] <ubuntu-rocks> oops, wrong window
[05:17] <aro_ron> it just shows the Ubuntu slpash, and a progress bar that dosent move
[05:17] <robgrant> has anyone been able to install 7.04?
[05:17] <sn0> ubuntu-user2345 it sounds llike you need  libncurses5-dev , are you compiling a kernel?
[05:17] <ubuntu-rocks> robgrant - yes
[05:17] <robgrant> aro_ron same here
 try what??? sorry I don't know what that is
[05:17] <kmaynard> i upgraded to 7.04...went smooth
[05:17] <robgrant> anyone do a new install of 7.04?
[05:17] <georgehenry> \quit
[05:17] <ubuntu-rocks> robgrant - the only issue i had was that it didn't like ecs m/b and western digital hd's
[05:17] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: i have to leave hopefully someone will pickup and assist you
[05:17] <kylefox> sn0: okay i think i have that figured out....what i'd like to do is require the OS X clients to provide a username / password for the ubuntu box
[05:17] <ubuntu-rocks> bulmer - tks for all your help
[05:18] <robgrant> try 3 hard drives already
[05:18] <sn0> can't comment that kylefox sorry, i dont use osx :-)
[05:18] <kmaynard> i use WD drives, thats not a problem
[05:18] <sn0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba has a much more thorough explanation
[05:18] <ubuntu-rocks> maybe it was a m/b problem
[05:18] <sn0> but really all you need to do is share the folder (and install when prompted) on the server
[05:18] <kmaynard> robgrant, did you use the gui installer?
[05:18] <ubuntu-rocks> these we wd ide drives btw
[05:19] <ubuntu-user2345> how can i install openssl in ubuntu
[05:19] <don_> Pirate_Hunter try joining #crossover
[05:19] <Pirate_Hunter> #crossover
[05:19] <robgrant> kmaynard: I'm totally new to this, just burned the cd and used gparted to make room
[05:19] <aro_ron> kmaynard, I also used the GUI installer, never had a problem with it before
[05:19] <ubuntu-user2345> anyone can help me install open ssl in ubuntu
[05:19] <erUSUL> !synaptic | ubuntu-user2345
[05:19] <ubotu> ubuntu-user2345: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:19] <ubuntu-user2345> thanks
[05:20] <kmaynard> the gui installer is slow and can be testy...i always suggest the alternate install disk
[05:20] <robgrant> what's the alternate?
[05:20] <robgrant> and how user funny is it?
[05:20] <robgrant> user friendly? hehehe
[05:20] <kylefox> okay, thanks
[05:20] <kmaynard> if you pay attention, it's pretty easy
[05:20] <aro_ron> ok, I will go the the alt disc
[05:21] <robgrant> pay attention to what?
[05:21] <aro_ron> got the partitions all set, just gotta reinstall onto them
[05:21] <robgrant> should I make all the partitions first?
[05:22] <ssn> hi
[05:22] <ubuntu-user2345> erUSUL actually my ubuntu is up to date and i dont see any openssl
[05:22] <ssn> i cannot use ubuntu with flickr :(
[05:22] <ssn> junk '500 EOF' before XML element
[05:22] <kmaynard> robgrant, the alternate cd has a partitioner too...it's not pretty, but it works
[05:22] <ssn> i get this error everytime i try to upload photos to flickr
[05:23] <kmaynard> wtf was that
[05:23] <robgrant> kmaynard > can you pcikup my pm?
[05:23] <erUSUL> !info libssl0.9.8 | ubuntu-user2345
[05:23] <ubotu> ubuntu-user2345: libssl0.9.8: SSL shared libraries. In component main, is important. Version 0.9.8c-4build1 (feisty), package size 2742 kB, installed size 6380 kB
[05:24] <ubuntu-user2345> where can i find that
[05:24] <ubuntu-user2345> This needs the ncurses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work.
[05:24] <ubuntu-user2345> If you are using curses
[05:25] <erUSUL> ubuntu-user2345: in synaptic
[05:25] <ubuntu-user2345> hold i look again
[05:25] <erUSUL> ubuntu-user2345: ssl has nothin to do with ncurses
[05:25] <sams_choice> How do I connect to my wireless on feisty
[05:25] <maxagaz> hi
[05:25] <greg_g> where are cores dumped to in ubuntu?
[05:25] <ubuntu-user2345> so
[05:25] <sams_choice> it shows i'm connected but it doesn't work
[05:25] <Pici> !wifi | sams_choice
[05:25] <ubotu> sams_choice: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:25] <ubuntu-user2345> what should i do
[05:25] <ubuntu-user2345> to solve the error
[05:26] <cranioex> heloo
[05:26] <ubuntu-user2345> erUSUL what should i do? to solve the error?
[05:26] <maxagaz> when upgrading from dapper to feisty, at the end, there's a cleaning process, but I didn't reach this process when I did the upgrade, how can I do this now ?
[05:26] <Pici> ubuntu-user2345: install libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev
[05:26] <ubuntu-user2345> how
[05:27] <ubuntu-user2345> sypnatic too ?
[05:27] <erUSUL> ubuntu-user2345: you are trying to build a kernel?
[05:27] <Pici> ubuntu-user2345: sudo apt-get install libncurses5 libncurses5-dev
[05:27] <ubuntu-user2345> ok
[05:27] <ubuntu-user2345> ty Pici
[05:27] <ubuntu-user2345> erUSUL nope
[05:28] <cranioex> whats prob
[05:29] <Pirate_Hunter> after messing around on my own I found a long way to get access to my office applications now the problem is that wine system tray adaptor wont close even after I close my office apps
[05:29] <ubuntu-user2345> lol finally
[05:29] <ubuntu-user2345> thanks Pici
[05:29] <jucs> Hi there!
[05:29] <ubuntu-user2345> thanks erUSUL
[05:29] <erUSUL> ubuntu-user2345: yw
[05:30] <Pirate_Hunter> How cna I close Wine system tray adaptor
[05:30] <ubuntu-user2345> thanks for the hel[p
[05:30] <ubuntu-user2345> finally i got it run
[05:30] <Pirate_Hunter>  How can I close Wine system tray adaptor?
[05:31] <kmaynard> xkill
[05:31] <kmaynard> muahahaha
[05:31] <don_> Pirate : can u right click the icon?
[05:31] <harry> how do I restart everything except the kernel?
[05:31] <Pirate_Hunter> tried that wont work
[05:32] <PriceChild> harry, please tell us what you are trying to achieve
[05:32] <Steve^> If I was looking for a wireless card for my PC, what's a well supported brand?
[05:32] <Pirate_Hunter> I cna right click on ti but the close function doesn't work
[05:32] <Concussin> can anyone help me with screen res. it's to low and doesn't give me more options
[05:32] <kmaynard> harry, /etc/init.d/foo restart
[05:32] <ssn> junk '500 EOF' before XML element
[05:32] <kmaynard> harry, throw a sudo in front of that
[05:32] <Pirate_Hunter> control+alt & minus or plus keys
[05:32] <ssn> i get this error everytime i try to upload photos to flickr
[05:32] <iter> bash: /etc/init.d/foo: No such file or directory
[05:32] <iter> hehe
[05:33] <jucs> Wow...
[05:33] <kmaynard> iter, durr
[05:33] <^rike^> why the cd's i insert in my dvd-rom get automatically mounted and an icon is shown in gnome desktop, but not my dvds; i can still mount them manually, though
[05:33] <Pirate_Hunter> now does someone know how force Wine system tray adaptor to close their must be a function to do so - window has one even knowing it don't work all the times
[05:34] <kmaynard> Pirate_Hunter, ask in #wine or something. that's not an ubuntu issue per se
[05:34] <kmaynard> stop using crappy windows stuff
[05:34] <Pirate_Hunter> huh didnt know that sorry I only know this channel thats why I ask here
[05:34] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: kmaynard means #winehq
[05:34] <kmaynard> whatever
[05:35] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Out of interest, what are you trying to wine? There might be a native ubuntu app.
[05:36] <Pirate_Hunter> I needed help for office 2003 so didnt get it messed around got it working and wine now wont close thats all
[05:36] <doctorow> I manually patched my copy of Bluefish, and now Adept thinks it is out of date and keeps showing updates available. Is there a way to tell Adept that I want to ignore updates for Bluefish?
[05:36] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Have you considered openoffice, or gnome office?
[05:37] <gocciadisangue> !seen entropy
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen entropy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <jucs> Gnoem Office? o.O
[05:37] <gocciadisangue> !seen entropia
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen entropia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <sn0> doctorow not corey perhaps ? :) just listened to an mp3 of the very person
[05:37] <Pirate_Hunter> I have like I stated I need office cause of company project I cnat restart again from the begining
[05:37] <Stormx2> gocciadisangue: Stop it.
[05:37] <ubuntu-rocks> fyi, figured out my network problem, it was cabling issues. i don't need a crossover cable apparently!
[05:37] <Stormx2> jucs: Abiword, gnumeric, etc.
[05:37] <sn0> im not sure if adept can do it, but i believe you can choose in synaptic to freeze/not upgrade the package
[05:37] <sn0> otherwise use whats called apt-pinning
[05:37] <jucs> Ah, okay...
[05:37] <Pirate_Hunter> I'm slowly moving my work to ubuntu but I still got things like this that must remain windows
[05:37] <doctorow> sn0 Yup, that's me!
[05:38] <spikeb> you can run windows in a virtualized environment for that
[05:38] <Stormx2> jucs: gnumeric is infinitely better than the open office calc :)
[05:38] <sn0> noway!
[05:38] <doctorow> sn0 ya way
[05:38] <jucs> pirate hunter, if in doubt, just kill wineserver and all wine apps will be gone...
[05:38] <sn0> just listened to the toalitarioan urge :-)
[05:38] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Yeah, but why MS Office? OpenOffice offers the same functionality, and can open word documents, etc.
[05:38] <doctorow> sn0 Neat! I'll be posting the podcast of my UC Irvine talk on copyright and happy meal toys today, I think
[05:38] <jucs> Okay, Storm :P
[05:38] <spikeb> Pirate_Hunter: you can run windows in a virtual environment for that.
 I have been using ubuntu for three days now i dont know how to force things to close yet thats what Im asking heer
[05:39] <sn0> doctorow excellent, im a great fan :)
[05:39] <doctorow> sn0 Thanks! Do you know anything about adept, perchance?
[05:39] <sn0> but back to your query, you may want to check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/72806
[05:39] <jucs> spikeb, common, he didn't tell us he has 4 cores, 4 Gigs ram and masses of time to configure that...
[05:39] <botswana_king> Trying to migrate from Debian sarge to Ubuntu Fiesty.  User portability isn't an issue, but cannot install from CD...
[05:39] <botswana_king> I replaced my debian sources.list with my recent Fiesty sources.list and did a "apt-get update" and then "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  worked somewhat but now get dependency errors...anyway to start from scratch w/i a debian sarge install?
[05:39] <jucs> pirate, do you know how to open a terminal?
[05:40] <Stormx2> botswana_king: Good idea :)
[05:40] <Pirate_Hunter> yes i figured out terminal at last just dont know the command types
[05:40] <doctorow> sn0, Ah, so this is a known bug and nothing to do about it?
[05:40] <iter> hey cory you're on the UPC right
[05:40] <tim167> hello how can i get my videocard working, x wont start, did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but still doesnt work
[05:40] <botswana_king> Stormx2: hosing the system is okay for me since nothing important is store on the disk
[05:40] <doctorow> iter UPC? Universal Product Code?
[05:40] <cjsoftuk_> Hi, I'm trying to get 4.1 surround sound working on Ubuntu.  I can get 2.0/2.1 to work fine, but 4.1 is hard to make work.  Any ideas
[05:40] <iter> I think I'm 2 buildings over
[05:40] <jucs> In order to kill all wine apps, type ... "killall wineserver"... if even taht does not work, try..."killall -s SIGKILL wineservr"...
[05:40] <Stormx2> botswana_king: There are issues with that. Say debian has somepackage-6, it will have different dependancies to the one in ubuntu's repos. If it's already installed, well,  big headache
[05:40] <iter> University Park Campus?
[05:41] <sn0> afaik doctorow at the moment there is no work around, unless someone else knows better
[05:41] <doctorow> iter -- Oh, USC! I WAS -- just cleaned out my desk yesterday. I was at the Annenberg School Center for Public Diplomacy
[05:41] <sn0> personally i dont use it sorry
 will try that, tell u in a bit if it worked
[05:41] <doctorow> sn0 Thanks
[05:41] <iter> ah how was it
[05:41] <MenZa> Urm, how is it you recover GDM after installing KDM?
[05:41] <Stormx2> cjsoftuk_: Maybe ask in #alsa ?
[05:41] <jucs> okay :-P
[05:41] <doctorow> iter It was a great year. My students produced completely badass work!
[05:41] <cjsoftuk_> Stormx2: Freenode I guess.  I'll go there now
[05:41] <Stormx2> jucs: SIGKILL is a last resort really :(
[05:41] <iter> bit corporate for a uni environment for me so far
[05:42] <don_> Pirate: have u tried  System>Administration>system monitor?
[05:42] <jucs> Stormx2, that's what I said...
 no
[05:42] <doctorow> iter Well, I don't have much experience with universities - never graduated -- but it was a little weird at times
[05:42] <doctorow> iter, sn0 -- nice chatting! Gotta go!
 no process killed thats the message
[05:42] <iter> ps
[05:42] <sn0> your welcome doctorow , my pleasure :-)
[05:42] <Stormx2> jucs: Nope. You should give the killall command some time to work, wine can take a minute to shut down sometimes.
[05:43] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: looks like wine isn't running, then.
[05:43] <jucs> Did you type..."wineserver"... I'm sorry for the writing mistake in my last message?
[05:43] <don_> then goto processes , highlight the wine process and end process
[05:43] <botswana_king> Stormx2: what would recommend if I can't install from CD and I have a cmd line deb sys?  the faqs I found "i.e. apt-get install update-manger-core" don't do the trick
[05:43] <logmein> anyone know how to setup xpde or aurora on xubuntu 7.04?
[05:43] <Pirate_Hunter> lol yeha it is a weird error and its not showing on process as wel yet I cna see it
[05:43] <Stormx2> botswana_king: It'd be really quite tricky.
[05:44] <tim167> if i change xorg.conf, do i have to do anything special to have it refreshed ?
[05:44] <rabiddachshund> How can I install fiesty if my laptop won't boot from cd?
[05:44] <jucs> Stormx2, why wait for one minute?
[05:44] <Pirate_Hunter> I guess only option is restart, hope this doesn't happen everytime I run office access
[05:44] <logmein> rabiddachshund: have usb or floppy?
[05:44] <rabiddachshund> yes
[05:44] <botswana_king> Stormx2: arg, will keep on diggin thanks though for the tidbit
[05:44] <don_> logout and back in and see if that helps
[05:44] <burepe> !samba
[05:44] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:44] <jucs> ALT+SysRQ+K *giggle*
[05:44] <logmein> rabiddachshund: if you have floppy then load up proper cd driver for it otherwise you could use usb installation method
[05:45] <logmein> rabiddachshund: do you see anything when you run the cd? any words or something at all?
[05:45] <Stormx2> botswana_king: What I'd suggest is remove the debian repos from your sources.list, install ubuntu-minimal, forcing the packages from ubuntu's repos to be used. Then uninstall everything except the few packages you just installed. Reboot, and install ubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <rabiddachshund> usb install?
[05:45] <logmein> rabiddachshund: yes do you have a flash drive?
[05:45] <CheshireViking> Pirate_Hunter, just a thought, rather than restarting the computer, you could just try restarting gnome & logging in again, maybe that'd do it
[05:45] <Pirate_Hunter> well going to restart
[05:45] <rabiddachshund> quite a few
[05:45] <jucs> Stormx2, why wait for one minute?
[05:45] <logmein> rabiddachshund: you could install xubuntu from a 512mb flash drive if you have a 1gb you can use the others
[05:45] <helpme> hello
[05:46] <jucs> hi
 thats so true will try that,
[05:46] <helpme> how do i remove/add icons in my xfce menu?
[05:46] <Stormx2> jucs: The normal signal sent from killall can be intercepted by wine. Wine will have stuff running, certain settings, etc, that need to be finished before it can shut down cleanly.
[05:46] <rabiddachshund> well, I ordered a fiesty disk a while back and I got it today.
[05:46] <logmein> rabiddachshund: might want to google around because I know a few others whom installed through their flash drive too bad no instructions up at site
[05:46] <Stormx2> jucs: Wine can take a while to do this, in my experience.
[05:46] <logmein> !usbinstall
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <logmein> !flashboot
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <rabiddachshund> can I put the disk on a usb?
[05:46] <Stormx2> logmein: /msg ubotu >.<
[05:46] <rabiddachshund> crap. Time out... Brb
[05:47] <logmein> Stormx2: I was hoping some people would see ubotu doesn't know jack about that method
[05:47] <jucs> Stormx2: Maybe true, but usually I don't want it to finish anything if I kill it...
[05:47] <Stormx2> jucs: Why? it will still end the process.
[05:47] <Stormx2> jucs: It just won't screw it up.
[05:47] <jucs> If it didn't crash, sure... so you'll have to watch it and wait...
[05:48] <Stormx2> I'm a patient person. 30 seconds extra is better than 30 seconds saved and a broken app.
[05:48] <jucs> Perhaps I'll say the same thing after breaking an app one time...
[05:48] <Stormx2> Hahah :)
[05:48] <jucs> :-D
[05:49] <k31th> guys if apache wont start wat log would you look in?
[05:49] <Stormx2> k31th: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[05:50] <kmaynard> k31th, /var/log/apache2/error.log
[05:50] <Stormx2> ...
[05:50] <kmaynard> Stormx2, you win
[05:50] <Stormx2> :)
[05:50] <mythtv> hello everyone
[05:50] <Stormx2> Hey mythtv
[05:50] <rabiddachshund> I suck at multitasking
[05:50] <Pirate_Hunter> well back that did the job its gone
[05:50] <mythtv> i have a mythtv question
[05:51] <Stormx2> :O what?!
[05:51] <jucs> fine, pirate
[05:51] <Paradoxx> I tried to use the locate command to find a file, but it says the slocate.db is more than 8 days old. How do I update it?
[05:51] <mythtv> i just setup my ubuntu box with mythtv
[05:51] <kmaynard> Paradoxx, sudo updatedb
[05:51] <Stormx2> kmaynard: You win this one :)
[05:51] <kmaynard> Stormx2, w00t! :)
[05:51] <Pirate_Hunter> i know there are not many successful viruses for linux but there must be spyware or adware that try to steal information and send it on the net or am I being a windows idiot?
[05:51] <mythtv> i would like to transfer a video from my ipod to my mythtv box
[05:51] <mythtv> over the composite cable
[05:51] <mythtv> is this possible?
[05:52] <kmaynard> Pirate_Hunter, I'll take Door 2
[05:52] <kamikaye> hezho
[05:52] <kamikaye> im new here o0
[05:52] <Pirate_Hunter> lol I thought you would choose that
[05:52] <kmaynard> :)
[05:52] <kamikaye> and i got a problem with ati driver installation
[05:52] <kamikaye> can someone here help me?
[05:52] <jucs> Tell me someone who has no problem with ati driver installation...
[05:52] <kamikaye> actually
[05:52] <kmaynard> ...and i'll sell them an nvidia card
[05:53] <Pirate_Hunter> when using P2P what cna I use to protect my IP address i.e. windows has protowall/peer guardian etc
[05:53] <mythtv> anyone using mythtv that can answer a quick question
[05:53] <don_> !virus
[05:53] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[05:53] <SlimeyPete> jucs: people who don't own ATIs? ;)
[05:53] <kamikaye> i nearly finished
[05:53] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: There are viruses for linux. But they target servers... web hosting etc. Writing spyware for linux is uneconomical, especially as 1) The linux population is small 2) Its not sensible. Time is money, and you won't see a profit 3) It's much harder writing linux viruses.
[05:53] <jucs> :-D
[05:53] <rambo3> kamikaye, what do you need ati driver for?
[05:53] <mythtv> anyone using mythtv that can answer a quick question
[05:53] <CheshireViking> !virus | Pirate_Hunter
[05:53] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: "To protect your IP". Are you being sarcastic?
[05:53] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: please see above
[05:53] <kamikaye> for playing with wine
[05:53] <kamikaye> dont i?
[05:53] <kmaynard> i get people trying to brute force my server daily. it used to scare me, but i dont worry anymore
[05:53] <jucs> SlimeyPete: Yeah, that's the best solution...
[05:54] <rambo3> !ati | kamikaye
[05:54] <ubotu> kamikaye: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:54] <Pirate_Hunter> kk im a windows user I changed cause linux is much secure but i don't know all the details
[05:54] <mythtv> anyone using mythtv that can answer a quick question
[05:54] <kmaynard> 1) protect the ports/servers you open 2) try OSSEC/HIDS or something similar
[05:54] <giddygecko> #ubuntu
[05:54] <kamikaye> look
[05:54] <kamikaye> i got the driver installed
[05:54] <kmaynard> 3)... 4) Profit
[05:54] <jucs> rambo3: It's not very funny to use a computer without a proper graphics driver...
[05:54] <kamikaye> but
[05:54] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Just think: I don't need to worry about it, unless I have a large obvious credit card database on my computer
[05:54] <Pirate_Hunter> storm i wasn't being sarcastic i was quite serious when i asked that question, well it don't protect my ip but stops other ip conencting to me
[05:54] <kamikaye> not i need to start aticonfig but i cant
[05:55] <kamikaye> now i need to start aticonfig but i cant
[05:55] <d3ll> esperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microesperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microesperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microesperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microesperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microesperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microesperame, dejame voy arriba a buscar un microhas joined #ubuntu
[05:55] <d3ll> 10:54 < rambo3> !ati | kamikaye
[05:55] <d3ll> has joined #ubuntu
[05:55] <Pirate_Hunter> tanx <<Stormx2>> that made me happy
[05:55] <d3ll> 10:54 < rambo3> !ati | kamikaye
[05:55] <d3ll> has joined #ubuntu
[05:55] <gnomefreak> d3ll: stop
[05:55] <d3ll> 10:54 < rambo3> !ati | kamikaye
[05:55] <Stormx2> d3ll: Stop now, I suggest.
[05:55] <don_> mythtv: try asking #ubuntu-mythtv
[05:55] <kamikaye> ?
[05:55] <kamikaye> whats that
[05:55] <rambo3> jucs, that is not why i asked. binary drivers don't work with beryl
[05:55] <don_> mythtv: if u can't find an answer here
[05:55] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: "IP" sometimes also means "intellectual property". So when you were asking about "P2P" and "IP" it was rather funny if you consider that other meaning ;)
[05:55] <UNDERsoN> !kernel
[05:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:56] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: Who was that for?
[05:56] <UNDERsoN> Stormx2 for me
[05:56] <jucs> rambo3: Sorry, forgot that ati is unable to provide proper drivers at all...
 ok didnt know that, learnt something new again
[05:57] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: Please /msg ubotu, this channel is busy enough without ubotu posting for the person who called it :)
[05:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Ive heard of Moblock can someone tell me if it is actually good or just a waste of time
[05:57] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: that's why he asked if you are sarcastic ... "I want to protect my IP from P2P ... " :-)
[05:57] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Moblock? Is that a firewall?
[05:57] <kamikaye> hey guys
[05:57] <Stormx2> Hey kamikaye
[05:57] <kamikaye> this is the official support channel huh?
[05:58] <Stormx2> Yup
[05:58] <kamikaye> so i need some help
[05:58] <rambo3> kamikaye, did you fallow the wiki ?
[05:58] <Stormx2> Although, all support is unofficial :)
[05:58] <anthony_> Is there a standard procedure for installing apps on xubuntu
[05:58] <gnomefreak> kamikaye: yes ask your question and if someone knows they will reply
[05:58] <Stormx2> anthony_: Yes. Synaptic.
[05:58] <kamikaye> okay
[05:58] <carlosqueso> !apt | anthony_
[05:58] <ubotu> anthony_: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:58] <UNDERsoN> Stormx2 Ok. Don't you know any problems with 2.6.20.16 kernel from repo?
[05:58] <anthony_> Thanks
[05:59] <rambo3> UNDERsoN, there is launchpad
[05:59] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: I'm running it now; no issues.
 nope it is an ip filter it downloads bad ips and stops them from going into your line like a firewall but just for IP usefull for P2P downloads cause of IAA and other anti P2P organsiations
[05:59] <kamikaye> i tried to install the latest ati driver with the consol ... and after installing i tried to configure the aticonfig but it didnt work and now the driver isnt fully installed
[05:59] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: But there may be issues for you. Check what rambo3 said, and also google / ubuntuforums.org
[05:59] <nemo_work> Say, I was wondering if someone with ubuntu running would mind telling me what the version is for UQM in ubuntu Feisty
[05:59] <Pirate_Hunter> but i dont know if it is good or just a waste of time like peer guardian
[05:59] <kmaynard> uqm?
[06:00] <kamikaye> can someone help?
[06:00] <nemo_work> kmaynard: search for it? :)
[06:00] <UNDERsoN> Stormx2 gdm don't started with this kernel
[06:00] <Pirate_Hunter> sadly protowall has not been implemented into linux yet
[06:00] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: Does X?
[06:00] <kmaynard> nemo_work, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=uqm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[06:00] <kmaynard> YOU search
[06:00] <kamikaye> cmon pls guys
[06:00] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: protowall  .. what's that??
[06:00] <nemo_work> kmaynard: awesome. thanks.
[06:00] <nemo_work> kmaynard: didn't know that existed
[06:01] <kamikaye>  i tried to install the latest ati driver with the consol ... and after installing i tried to configure the aticonfig but it didnt work and now the driver isnt fully installed
[06:01] <UNDERsoN> Stormx2 No x11 session don't start
[06:01] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: I wouldn't consider the mafiaa a big threat.
[06:01] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: Check the X error log?
 the best windows ip filter than works at service level, blocking not just ips but mac addresses as well
[06:01] <kmaynard> nemo_work, thanks for not being a smart ace
[06:01] <carlosqueso> nemo_work: you can also use apt-cache show if you are on an ubuntu machine
[06:01] <Pirate_Hunter> more info cna be found at www.bluetack.co.uk
[06:01] <UNDERsoN> storx2 may bee I should install another driver's for nvidia?
[06:02] <nemo_work> carlosqueso: that was the problem. not on my home machine right now (my new Dell with ubuntu preinstalled)
[06:02] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: oh well ... a short answer such as "It's a Windows firewall ... " would have sufficed :D
[06:02] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: Are you using the restricted driver?
[06:02] <kamikaye> help pls >:o
[06:02] <nemo_work> carlosqueso: and I had the machine set to suspend after an hour to save power
[06:02] <rambo3> !doesn't_work | _kamikaye
[06:02] <carlosqueso> ah...sorry
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't_work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 thats trully comical might use it sometime
[06:02] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: as you can guess by me being here I am not exactly a Windows user .... :-)
[06:02] <Stormx2> kamikaye: If no one answers you, we simply don't know.
[06:02] <Stormx2> kamikaye: Perhaps post a thread on ubuntuforums.org?
[06:02] <kamikaye> hm
[06:02] <kamikaye> yes already did so
[06:02] <UNDERsoN> Stormx2 I use official driver from repo
[06:02] <nemo_work> aight. thanks. and can find out status of other stuff I'd like to install like Mozilla Seamonkey and TA:Spring using this search too I guess
[06:02] <kamikaye> ehm no i posted into the german one
[06:02] <nemo_work> er s/TA:Spring/Spring/
[06:03] <Stormx2> UNDERsoN: So the default driver, yeah?
[06:03] <Kalisto> what is the fastest way to install a packet that only exists for gusty on a feisty system?
[06:03] <UNDERsoN> ok I'll try
 thats why its good to get info from a windows user to find out what theyve been up to maybe someone might decide to create an ip filter for linux that actually works
[06:03] <scorp123> kamikaye: use the search functions there ... this will sometimes show existing threads where people are already discussing your problem ....
[06:03] <Stormx2> Kalisto: backports?
[06:03] <rambo3> kamikaye, doesn't work isn't really going to get you anywhere , post error or some description of error
[06:03] <PriceChild> Kalisto, short answer is that you shuldn't
[06:03] <PriceChild> !prevu | Kalisto
[06:03] <ubotu> Kalisto: prevu is an automated, personal backporting utility. Check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Prevu for more details
[06:03] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: Firewalls work *PERFECTLY* in Linux :-)
[06:03] <rambo3> !backports | Kalisto
[06:03] <ubotu> Kalisto: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[06:03] <nemo_work> btw, if anyone here bought the Dell, love the convenience of the Beryl integration, but is a great way to have weird things happen.  Disabled that again pretty quick
[06:03] <Pirate_Hunter> windows dont make junk all the time and protowall is not made by Ms but by ppl like you guyz/females that wish to make the OS more protective to users
[06:03] <kamikaye> k w8 ill post the message
[06:03] <carlosqueso> Kalisto: it's a bad idea, but you might be able to get the package from packages.ubuntu.com and try to install it manually, but I havent' tried it
[06:03] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: I am pretty sure we don't need "input" from Windows when it comes to "security" :-)
[06:04] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: If you need a firewall, check out firestarter. That's what I use!
[06:04] <PriceChild> nemo_work, compiz is included and labelled a "technology preview" etc.
[06:04] <carlosqueso> Kalisto: or you could compile from source
[06:04] <nemo_work> was just too annoying to have games that fullscreened screw it up, or suspending mess with it, or, well, just looking at it funny :)
[06:04] <nemo_work> PriceChild: yeah, just thinking that this place will probably become a dell support channel in part, soon.
[06:04] <scorp123> Stormx2: we use a SmoothWall / M0n0Wall combo ... works superb :-)
[06:05] <PriceChild> nemo_work, it being a dell machine makes no difference to the support
[06:05] <nemo_work> PriceChild: and on this dell, at least, it is a one-click to enable (well, plus the reboot - don't know why they feel a reboot is needed)
 got that but the ip list is like 2-8mb ip filters make it easy to get bad ips as it downlaods them for you, than all you have to do is make sure to allow the ones you want and that makes life easier. Thats the clever thing that came from programmers in windows and they are not affiliated with MS
[06:05] <PriceChild> nemo_work, nvidia drivers?
[06:05] <nemo_work> PriceChild: well, the volume of people in here may go up sharply is all - and was elaborating that they make it easier to turn on
[06:05] <Stormx2> nemo_work: Dell are selling support plans. They are just canonical support.
[06:05] <nemo_work> PriceChild: yeah, nice little one-click to turn on drivers too
[06:05] <kamikaye> where can i change the keyboardlayout?
[06:06] <PriceChild> nemo_work, that is what the reboot was for
[06:06] <nemo_work> Stormx2: they recommend people go to the community for support :)
[06:06] <PriceChild> kamikaye, system > preferences > keyboard
[06:06] <nemo_work> PriceChild: meh. modprobe :-p
[06:06] <kamikaye> for a unknown reason it changed
[06:06] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter; Fair enough. Does it edit your hosts file or something?
[06:06] <kamikaye> kk thx
[06:06] <nemo_work> PriceChild: and a gdm restart maybe :)
[06:06] <PriceChild> nemo_work, and X restart ;)
[06:06] <nemo_work> right
[06:06] <nemo_work> guess it was easier to say reboot please
 bluetack was way ahead of you they made a host manager
[06:06] <anthony_> !synaptic
[06:06] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:06] <nemo_work> aaanyway. got my answer. need to get back to work. later y'all.
[06:06] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Eh?
[06:06] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: how about this? http://forums.phoenixlabs.org/t37-linux-peerguardian-update-script-for-bluetackcouk.html
[06:07] <Kalisto> carlosqueso, its the package. im surprised it does not exist for feisty http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/news/python-yenc
[06:07] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: A hosts manager? >.<
[06:07] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: To edit a config file with two columns? xD
[06:07] <carlosqueso> Kalisto: that won't be backported, so your choices are to try to download the gutsy package and install, or compile from source
[06:08] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: or this ...? http://forums.tlm-project.org/showthread.php?t=346
[06:08] <gnomefreak> carlosqueso: what package wont be backported?
 bluetack host manager downloads a hosts file premade from their database with domains that either advertise or are infected. The host manager actually replaces or appends to the original host and keeps you secure by returning 127.0.1 the domain to yourself so you never get to go there
[06:08] <carlosqueso> any library
[06:08] <Pirate_Hunter> oops 127.0.0.1
[06:08] <carlosqueso> they don't doo it
[06:08] <gnomefreak> carlosqueso: they do if it is for a package
[06:09] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: I just installed Adblock+ on firefox. I dont get ads on any other app.
[06:09] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: dito. "AdBlock" and "NoScript". Voila. Done.
[06:09] <carlosqueso> gnomefreak: they may have changed the policy, but historically they haven't
[06:10] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: And "infections" ?? :-)  We don't have that here :-)
[06:10] <gnomefreak> carlosqueso: i have firefox 2.0 ready for dapper backports and a few libs i backported for it
[06:10] <gnomefreak> dont get your hopes up it will be a few more months before it shows up
 & <scorp123> thats diofferent from protowall its hard to expalin, if you use P2P like soem ppl do you'll understand how important an ip filter is especially with all legislation on torrents
[06:10] <gnomefreak> its in my repo for testing atm
[06:10] <logmein> hmm "configure: error: *** SDL not found!" what package would that be?
[06:11] <carlosqueso> gnomefreak: if you're on the backports team then you know more than me, that's why I said "unless they change the policy
[06:11] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Not for me.
[06:11] <erUSUL> logmein: libsdl*-dev
[06:11] <frolle> What shall i do with a 400 mzh with ubuntu server install and no internet? :(
[06:11] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: I couldn't give a rat's arse; we don't have corrupt legislation like that in europe.
[06:11] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: I already gave you the links for the Azureus plugins ... see above.
[06:11] <logmein> erUSUL: thx
[06:11] <Pirate_Hunter> peerguardian is aite dont like it resource hod at least the windows version was
[06:11] <scorp123> Stormx2: Ah yeah ... Americans and their DMCA :-)
[06:11] <Pirate_Hunter> azureus very good but system hog
[06:12] <Stormx2> scorp123: I feel so sorry for you guys.
[06:12] <gnomefreak> carlosqueso: im not but i work with them. if they can advoid it they will but dapper is LTS and FF isnt so i will get away with it
[06:12] <carlosqueso> gnomefreak: gotcha
[06:12] <gnomefreak> but i dont have to go through backports team
[06:12] <_fernando> hi anyone can helpme please with a wireless network card
[06:12] <scorp123> Stormx2: you don't have to feel sorry for me ... I am Swiss and P2P is perfectly *LEGAL* here for as long as I don't make any profits off it :-)
[06:12] <Stormx2> scorp123: Ah good.
 rofl how i envy you
[06:13] <_fernando> i can see my wireless card on hardware manager
[06:13] <Sigh> Hello.. Could someone help me pls? My internet is dead, save this tunnelled irssi session.. and I need to get my microphone working.. in Feisty
[06:13] <_fernando> but if i type iwconfig it says there are no wireless interfaces
[06:13] <Stormx2> scorp123: It is insane, the back-handedness of copyright over there.
[06:14] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: It's even legal to crack copy protection mechanisms for as long as you don't get any profit out of it. Rip a DVD? LEGAL here :-)
[06:14] <Sigh> _fernando: type iwconfig -a
[06:14] <Stormx2> Sigh: Internet wise, was it working before?
[06:14] <Stormx2> scorp123: Actually it's legal to rip DVDs in the states.
[06:14] <Sigh> Stormx2: no.. our proxy is just gay.. it does this often/..
[06:14] <_fernando> -a        No such device
[06:14] <Sigh> lo.
[06:15] <scorp123> Stormx2: but it's illegal to crack e.g. the encryption or to circumvent the copy-protection mechanisms ... :-)
 american rules work differently and it also depends on the state you live in some are very strict others are not yet they follow the same rules and some ISP have contacted members over P2P use
[06:15] <Pirate_Hunter> now thats scary when your ISP even gets in the whole legality issue
[06:15] <Sigh> Anyone.. microphone!!! Please..
[06:15] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: One of my *TOP* favourite bookmarks:  http://thepiratebay.org/legal
[06:16] <Stormx2> scorp123: i love that page.
[06:16] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: I just love those answers :-)
 rofl will check it out
[06:16] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: The trick is to go on a small ISP. Thats what I do. They need all the customers they can get, so they ignore the terrabytes of transfer I have per month
[06:17] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: Just read what they wrote following the threats of DREAMWORKS :-)
[06:17] <anthony_> Is there any way to install new software on xubuntu if I don't have an internet connection?
[06:17] <scorp123> Pirate_Hunter: "
[06:17] <scorp123> It is the opinion of us and our lawyers that you are ....... morons, and
[06:17] <scorp123> that you should please go sodomize yourself with retractable batons.
[06:17] <Stormx2> Sigh: Okay. basics. 1) Does it work on other operating systems? 2) Is it in the correct hole? 3) What connector does it have?
[06:17] <rambo3> scorp123, dont post that nazi site here
[06:17] <Stormx2> lmao
 that wont apply to me and I like to block china dont know why but they just seem dodgy especially since they are hard to find on who is
[06:17] <Sigh> Yeah.. 1/8 inch jack..
[06:17] <scorp123> rambo3: rubbish
[06:17] <Sigh> Works in Windows..
[06:17] <Stormx2> rambo3: Which nazi site?
[06:17] <carlosqueso> anthony_: do you have an internet connection elsewhere?
[06:17] <rambo3> piratbay
[06:17] <anthony_> Right here.
[06:18] <scorp123> Stormx2: One of the guys who *MAY HAV* financed TPB in its early beginnings has had ties to Swedish right-wing groups
[06:18] <sams_choice> I pay $22 a day in rent, doesn't seem like a great deal at that rate
[06:18] <elkbuntu> rambo3, Stormx2, scorp123, stop that NOW
[06:18] <scorp123> ... but that does not mean that TPB are Nazis .... tss tss tss :-)
[06:18] <Sigh> Stormx2: works on Windows.. plugged into front port, should i put in the back instead?
[06:18] <Stormx2> rambo3: Actually, it's the opposite. Nazism was a fascist dictatorship, against Germany's consitution. Therefore illegal. TBP is legal.
[06:18] <carlosqueso> anthony_: cool, then you can download the packages off of packages.ubuntu.com and install them with "sudo dpkg -i <package name>"
[06:18] <carlosqueso> anthony_: but it's a pain to do frequently
[06:19] <elkbuntu> !support
[06:19] <ubotu> support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[06:19] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[06:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:19] <Stormx2> !botabuse
[06:19] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:19] <Stormx2> ^_^
[06:19] <scorp123> he's right ... we are offtopic
[06:19] <Stormx2> At least we're correct, though.
[06:19] <Sigh> Stormx2: can you help me?
[06:19] <incorperated> can someone help me install cspace
[06:19] <christian_> hy
[06:20] <scorp123> incorperated: is that the "hamachi" clone?
[06:20] <Pirate_Hunter> being serious now, how cna I get my game controller to work on ubuntu
[06:20] <Stormx2> Sigh: Ah yeah. Your front port will be on your mobo
[06:20] <christian_> have anybody installed phped (nusphere) on feisty?
[06:20] <incorperated> dont know
[06:20] <incorperated> http://cspace.in/
[06:20] <rambo3> i won't talk of here .
[06:20] <incorperated> theres the link
[06:20] <christian_> i need this lib:  It may be named as libstdc++2.10-2.96, compat-libstdc++-7.3-2.96
[06:20] <Stormx2> Sigh: You'll have two alsa devices in that case. Ask in #alsa about that.
[06:20] <scorp123> incorperated: yes it is :-)
[06:20] <Sigh> Kk
[06:20] <scorp123> incorperated: wanted to try that too ...
[06:20] <incorperated> ok
[06:20] <anthony_> carlosque
[06:20] <anthony_> oops.
[06:21] <elkbuntu> Stormx2, while your discussion may be factual, it is highly offensive to alot of people, and should not be discussed in any #ubuntu channel
[06:21] <carlosqueso> anthony_: yes?
[06:21] <Pirate_Hunter>  how can I get my game controller to work on ubuntu please
[06:21] <anthony_> carlosqueso where do the packages have to be before using the command line to install?
[06:21] <Stormx2> christian_: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[06:21] <valehru> !proxy
[06:21] <Stormx2> christian_: Why do you need it, are you compiling?
[06:21] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[06:21] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[06:21] <Stormx2> valehru: Who was that for?
[06:21] <devcenter> hello, what's program do you use to copy a movie dvd?
[06:21] <valehru> Stormx2, myself
[06:22] <carlosqueso> anthony_: they can be anywhere on the ubuntu machine, they will automatically install into the right place
[06:22] <valehru> Stormx2, looking to set up a proxy server ...
[06:22] <Stormx2> valehru: Please /msg ubotu in future.
[06:22] <christian_> Stormx2: no, i run a installer (sh)
[06:22] <Stormx2> christian_: For what?
[06:23] <devcenter> i need any program to do it
[06:23] <christian_> Stormx2: for this:
[06:23] <christian_> http://www.nusphere.com/
[06:23] <christian_> Stormx2: libstdc++6  is already installed
[06:23] <incorperated> scorp123
[06:23] <incorperated> you there
[06:23] <incorperated> can ya help me
[06:23] <Pirate_Hunter> how can I install my game controller into Ubuntu what drivers can I get - even I get bored sometimes
[06:25] <Stormx2> christian_: I don't mean to question your motives, but why would you want to encode PHP? Surely ubuntu has taught you something about the free software efforts that allow you to use the software you're using today?
[06:25] <incorperated> can someone help me install cspace
[06:26] <Stormx2> Pirate_Hunter: Look up your device on google.
[06:26] <christian_> Stormx2: but not professional software. In our company, we have a few licences, and i want use them
[06:26] <logmein> christian_: perl pwnz php
[06:26] <Pirate_Hunter> lol if it was that easy my device is a cheap game controller that doesn't have a name
[06:26] <anthony_> Okay, do you have time to walk me through, carlosqueso. I have an aqua theme I want to install. it is in a compressed file on my desktop called aqualooks.tar.gz. The first step is?
[06:26] <incorperated> untaring it
[06:26] <logmein> Pirate_Hunter: plug it in and check dmesg see what it detects
[06:27] <rambo3> !themes | anthony_
[06:27] <ubotu> anthony_: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:27] <carlosqueso> anthony_: you are using xfce, correct?
[06:27] <carlosqueso> !changthemes | anthony_
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changthemes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <incorperated> tar -xjvf aqualooks.tar.gz
[06:27] <Stormx2> anthony_: System > Preferences > Themes. Drag the .tar.gz into the window.
 will do so my fellow sir/madame
[06:27] <incorperated> somethin like that
[06:27] <Stormx2> incorperated: Possibly, probably not.
[06:27] <incorperated> ok
[06:27] <carlosqueso> !changethemes | anthony_
[06:27] <anthony_> Stormx i'll try that.
[06:27] <ubotu> anthony_: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[06:27] <Stormx2> carlosqueso: Stop.
[06:27] <incorperated> so nobody here can help me
[06:27] <christian_> You should have these libraries installed:
[06:27] <christian_>   /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[06:28] <Stormx2> christian_: Have you checked the repos?
[06:28] <carlosqueso> Stormx2: and why should I stop helping someone? I misspelled my only other attmempt
[06:28] <scorp123> incorperated: what's up?
[06:28] <incorperated> hey scorp can you help me with the cspace
[06:28] <Stormx2> carlosqueso: Ah right. Sorry, I was under the impression you'd done it a bunch of times. My sincere apologies.
[06:28] <incorperated> if you have time
[06:28] <christian_> Stormx2: yes, all backports are open, the standard backport from feisty
[06:28] <carlosqueso> Stormx2: np
 on teminal i typed dmesg and  I get all this writning come up is that good
[06:29] <Stormx2> christian_: is libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 installed?
[06:30] <scorp123> incorperated: it would help all if you wouldn't ask "silly" questions like that "can you help me" ... Just state what the problem is ... :-)
[06:30] <Stormx2> christian_: You may need to do a softlink on the .so file. Thus the problem with nonfree software, yeah?
[06:30] <incorperated> i need help installing it from scratch
[06:30] <dawn_chorus> how can I echo a string and have it added to a file owned by root?
[06:30] <incorperated> im alittle new
[06:30] <incorperated> ive tried other ways i prefer someone to help
[06:30] <Stormx2> christian_: i expect your customers will be equally frustrated that they cant edit something they bought
[06:30] <christian_> Stormx2: where?
[06:30] <incorperated> if thats not a problem
[06:31] <Stormx2> christian_: cd /usr/lib
[06:31] <VeganChick> i'm trying to switch a spare laptop from ubuntu edgy to vista, but I can't get either the vista dvd or an os x install cd to boot...when i hold down 'c' to boot, it asks if i want ubuntu or a cd. when i press 'c' for cd, it spits the cd or dvd right out and pretends to boot from cd, while doing nothing...
[06:31] <erUSUL> dawn_chorus: sudo sh -c 'echo "string" >> /path/to file'
[06:31] <Stormx2> christian_: Run a ls -l | grep whatever
[06:31] <Stormx2> christian_: ln -s is the softlink command.
[06:31] <scorp123> incorperated: please write single sentences, OK? "I have the problem that I can't do $FOO and install it in $BAR ... "
[06:31] <dawn_chorus> erUSUL, thank you.  i'm not familiar with the 'sh -c' part of that command.  what is that?
[06:31] <anthony_> Stormx2 I 'm using xubuntu. It doesn't have a "preferences" in the System menu, and I'm not sure what would correspond to that.
[06:32] <Stormx2> christian_: I feel unclean helping someone install proprietary software in order to create a proprietary software product.
[06:32] <dfernando> hello. Can someone help me with a dual screen setup with ati xpress200??
[06:32] <incorperated> huh
[06:32] <LordLimecat> is anyone familiar with junctions in windows/is there something similar in linux?
[06:32] <erUSUL> dawn_chorus: is to call a shell to execute the command
[06:32] <LordLimecat> er...reparse points i mean
[06:32] <Stormx2> anthony_: Under the xubuntu menu, it will be under "themes" or "look" or something
[06:32] <scorp123> LordLimecat: what is "junctions" ?
[06:32] <Stormx2> anthony_: I can't remember, I haven't use xfce in ages.
[06:32] <dawn_chorus> erUSUL, ah.  i'll have to read up on that.  thank you.
[06:32] <mzuverink> I pieced togather a machine that I want to use as a headless/mouseless/keyboardless LAMP/FTP server.  I want to admin it remotelely from within my own lan only.  What would be the proper and best way of doing this?
[06:32] <LordLimecat> i have folder A with tons of stuff in it
[06:32] <LordLimecat> i make a junction to folder A
[06:32] <incorperated> ok need help installing the follwing dependencies ncrypt,pycurl,ctypes,python,
[06:32] <Stormx2> mzuverink: SSH.
[06:32] <LordLimecat> the junction now points to all of directory A
[06:33] <LordLimecat> i delete something in either the folder, or its junction, its delete
[06:33] <LordLimecat> d
[06:33] <scorp123> incorperated: you could search for those packages in "Synaptic" ....
[06:33] <Stormx2> Uh, "junction"?
[06:33] <LordLimecat> like a shortcut for folders
[06:33] <LordLimecat> or hardlink for folders, actually
[06:33] <incorperated> adept or whats the best
[06:33] <icecruncher> where can i find teh ethernet device? (/dev?)
[06:33] <carlosqueso> anthony_:
[06:33] <Stormx2> LordLimecat: Try a softlink?
[06:33] <scorp123> incorperated: same thing ... I prefer "synaptic".
[06:33] <incorperated> ok
[06:33] <carlosqueso> anthony_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2766607
[06:33] <LordLimecat> stormlink: if the original folder moves, the soflink breaks....
[06:33] <anthony_> I'll check it out
[06:34] <mzuverink> Stormx2, So Install opensshd/serrver on the new machine and ssh client on the admin machine?
[06:34] <Stormx2> icecruncher: Yeah. probably /dev/eth0 if you're on dsl.
[06:34] <LordLimecat> and theyre transparent in the same way as a hardlink
[06:34] <Kalisto> can anyone help me with stunnel4? i installed it and edited the /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf file and enabled debugging. but /etc/init.d/stunnel4 start does not do anything!
[06:34] <VeganChick> does anyone know how to force a laptop to boot off a dvd...other than pressing 'c' upon boot?
[06:34] <LordLimecat> is there no way to do this?
[06:34] <icecruncher> Stormx2: it's not there, I checked
[06:34] <Stormx2> icecruncher: /dev/eth1? ^>^
[06:34] <Stormx2> ^.^*
[06:34] <troy> can anyone assist with an install of vmware on 7.04?
[06:34] <Stormx2> troy: There's a nice guide on the wiki
[06:34] <scorp123> a damn .... baby is crying again .... g2g :-/
[06:34] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: you would change the boot order in the bios
[06:35] <Stormx2> !vmware | troy
[06:35] <ubotu> troy: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:35] <icecruncher> Stormx2: nah, It's eth0 but cannot find it
[06:35] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: youd probably want floppy-->cd-->harddrive
[06:35] <Stormx2> icecruncher: Odd. Was the card previously recognised?
[06:35] <troy> Stormx2: I need the vmware server :(
[06:35] <icecruncher> yeah
[06:35] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: floppy? who uses that anymore?! haha...
[06:35] <troy> Stormx2: I followed the how to's and still get an error
[06:36] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: what do i do to change the boot order in the bios?
[06:36] <Stormx2> troy: Maybe ask on ubuntuforums.org? I'm sure if anyone here will know
[06:36] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: TBH, i hate floppy drives, the power connector sucks and has shorted at LEAST one of my powersupplies
[06:36] <alexfer> hola de nuevo,,,, iintento iinstalar theorur y uno de los requerimientos es gtk2, lo busque por synaptic como gtk2, pero  no lo encontre ,, pero encontre otros que comiensan con gtk2-xxxx ... que hago ??
[06:36] <fenix> Saludos
[06:36] <Stormx2> VeganChick: You need to hit the button that accesses your BIOS setup when your computer starts. It will likely be DEL, or F2, or F8
[06:36] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: you press some F key @ boot up
[06:36] <LordLimecat> or delete
[06:36] <troy> Stormx2: I'll go have a look there.. thanks
[06:36] <LordLimecat> delete sometimes works
[06:36] <holodad> hello any one can help with a dual screen setup??
[06:37] <LordLimecat> try pressing tab @ boot, see if that shows you more info
[06:37] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: so i just try one of those 3 and see what works?
[06:37] <alexfer> #ubuntu-es
[06:37] <LordLimecat> if it does, it may say somewhere "press F_ to enter setup"
[06:37] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: ok
[06:37] <LordLimecat> you use tab to show you the full boot process....which may show which key
[06:37] <LordLimecat> the problem is that if you press too many wrong keys, some computers dislike it and the keyboard gets messed up until you reboot
[06:37] <Stormx2> VeganChick: Delete is common. If that doesn't work, try F2 or F8. 99.9% one of those will work.
[06:37] <younghacker> hello how can i give myself admin rights on my installation?
[06:38] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: ok, restarting now w/ tab
[06:38] <LordLimecat> or f10
[06:38] <Stormx2> !sudo | younghacker
[06:38] <ubotu> younghacker: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:38] <LordLimecat> or f12
[06:38] <LordLimecat> those ar ehte biggies
[06:38] <Stormx2> LordLimecat: i've never seen F10 or F12, but okay.
[06:38] <younghacker> ok
[06:38] <LordLimecat> yea, f10 is for one line, i forget which
[06:38] <LordLimecat> maybe dell?
[06:38] <Stormx2> Dunno.
[06:38] <LordLimecat> either dell or the mobo i have
[06:38] <Stormx2> I always make my computers, so most of my mobos are old.
[06:38] <LordLimecat> heh
[06:38] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: eh...forgot to mention i'm on a G3 iBook
[06:39] <LordLimecat> i make em too, but i use teh new stuff
[06:39] <LordLimecat> oh
[06:39] <LordLimecat> yea........that may change things?
[06:39] <LordLimecat> im a mac noob
[06:39] <LordLimecat> never touched one
[06:39] <Stormx2> Me too, never saw the point in em.
[06:39] <LordLimecat> gimme a sec
[06:39] <LordLimecat> ill look it up
[06:39] <Stormx2> Hmm, I'll do some googling for you, VeganChick
[06:39] <Stormx2> VeganChick: I'm going vegan in a couple of weeks ^_^
[06:39] <LordLimecat> for future reference....we're researching "bios setup key for ibook" "D
[06:39] <LordLimecat> :D
[06:39] <VeganChick> Stormx2: thanks....hahah, good luck!
[06:40] <LordLimecat> ctrl seems to be another key for listing boot devices.......
[06:41] <anthony_> How can I tell if I'm running gnome or xfce?
[06:41] <carlosqueso> anthony_: do you have ubuntu or xubuntu
[06:41] <anthony_> Did I have an option when I installed xubuntu?
[06:41] <anthony_> xubuntu
[06:41] <carlosqueso> anthony_: you're running xfce
[06:41] <christian_> Stormx2: Thank you very much : ln -s libstdc++.so.6.0.8 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
[06:41] <logmein> anthony: xfce pwnz gnome any day
[06:41] <anthony_> Thanks.
[06:42] <christian_> this was the solution
[06:42] <LordLimecat> logmein: LIES!
[06:42] <Stormx2> logmein: opinion!
[06:42] <carlosqueso> logmein: agreed
[06:42] <christian_> Stormx2: Thx thxthx
[06:42] <LordLimecat> lol
[06:42] <LordLimecat> xfce is ok.....
[06:42] <incorperated> hey scorp
[06:42] <LordLimecat> but i dont want to think while i use my comp
[06:42] <LordLimecat> gnome releases me from having to think :D
[06:42] <Stormx2> christian_: Remember that the software world is changing, and products like yours alienate your customers and potential profit from plugins, modifications, etc.
[06:42] <logmein> LordLimecat: oh as if I'd want delicious options stripped from apps and retarded g naming? haha least with xubuntu they can't name everything X because its confused with x server stuff
[06:43] <anthony_> LordLimecat why?
[06:43] <christian_> Stormx2: which tool you using?
[06:43] <LordLimecat> anthony_: dunno, when i used xfce my brain blew up
[06:43] <LordLimecat> maybe i did it wrong
[06:43] <christian_> eclipse is to slow
[06:43] <Stormx2> christian_: For?
[06:43] <LordLimecat> same with kde
[06:43] <christian_> php mysql
[06:43] <mpmc> Hey everyone, I'm trying to get my hauppauge USB TV stick to work on Ubuntu,  I have no idea where to start..
[06:43] <christian_> Stormx2: php mysql
[06:43] <LordLimecat> logmein: if you want delicious options, dont you use cmdline?
[06:43] <LordLimecat> o.0
[06:43] <dawn_chorus> erUSUL, ah.  so calling upon sudo to call upon shell makes whatever command shell issues to be owned as root.  is that right?
[06:44] <logmein> LordLimecat: not when interfacing a gui
[06:44] <Stormx2> christian_: I have a LAMP installation on my computer. I use gedit, which has PHP highlighting.
[06:44] <LordLimecat> gui is for simplicity....anywho, i was more referring to the actual desktop
[06:44] <logmein> LordLimecat: if I wanted cmdline I'd use screen instead of gnome
[06:44] <LordLimecat> lol
[06:44] <LordLimecat> dont take me seriously, ive only given xfce a passing glance
[06:44] <younghacker> thanks it works
[06:44] <carlosqueso> screen pwns all
[06:44] <LordLimecat> but ive tried it and kde, and dunno, gnome just feels like home
[06:44] <LordLimecat> kde was real nice
[06:45] <christian_> Stormx2: what  with intellisense?
[06:45] <logmein> LordLimecat: including general bugginess of kde that leaves xfce as only alternative full desktop (fluxbox is pretty good too)
[06:45] <younghacker> how do u find out what programs are there but aren't activated yet ... if u can do that
[06:45] <LordLimecat> but...welll....felt sorta cramped with all them features
[06:45] <christian_> what is with the help in your ide? like visual studio ?
[06:45] <Stormx2> christian_: "intellisense"? Is that the worst named product ever?
[06:45] <LordLimecat> logmein: whats the issue with gnome?
[06:45] <Stormx2> christian_: I don't use an IDE. I just code PHP in gedit. Why would you need an IDE?
[06:45] <erUSUL> dawn_chorus: dead right, indeed
[06:46] <carlosqueso> younghacker: what do you mean by there but not activated?
[06:46] <logmein> LordLimecat: their slogan of remove options from gui, hate the logo, and I like thunar better, also dislike when people rename applications to "browser" or "messenger" instead of what they are
[06:47] <valehru> Hey guys, just installed squid.  Getting the following error:  Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.
[06:47] <VeganChick> LordLimecat, Stormx2: i don't get any response for 'tab', 'del', 'F2', 'F8', or 'F10'...and 'F12' is also 'eject', so it just spits my dvd out...anything else to try?
[06:47] <logmein> LordLimecat: besides xfce is gtk based so its nice alternative for heavy gnome users
[06:47] <LordLimecat> logmein: perhaps i like it because as an IT guy who deals with windows constantly, my brain takes less strain from using something more similar
[06:47] <beardbar> I am trying to find which driver i should use for my laptop. http://www.clevo.com.tw/products/M660N.asp this is my laptop specs, can anyone tell me which driver I should use?
[06:47] <christian_> Stormx2: for performance
[06:47] <Stormx2> christian_: how does it help your performance?
[06:47] <christian_> Stormx2: for debugging
[06:47] <logmein> LordLimecat: yeah want a pic of my xfce desktop?
[06:47] <LordLimecat> last thing i need as a windows pro and a linux noob is to constantly be trying to work around differences int he gui
[06:47] <LordLimecat> logmein: sure
[06:47] <LordLimecat> xfce has a lot goin for it, i know
[06:47] <VeganChick> i did find that all of my major problems started after i went to xubuntu and stopped when i switched back to ubuntu...
[06:47] <LordLimecat> but its way too alien
[06:47] <LordLimecat> for now
[06:48] <Stormx2> christian_: Hand-coding hugely increases the performance of the app, because generic tools add generic code which isn't lean and mean enough.
[06:48] <LordLimecat> Stormx2: if you add syntax highlighting, doesnt gedit become an IDE?
[06:48] <Stormx2> christian_: And PHP has perfect debugging anyway. Parse error on line <blah>. Found {, expected ). Etc. That not obvious enough?
[06:48] <Stormx2> LordLimecat: Perhaps.
[06:48] <LordLimecat> :D
[06:48] <younghacker> now that java run time is an executable how do i load into my browser?
[06:48] <Stormx2> LordLimecat: But not a commercial IDE.
[06:49] <LordLimecat> lol
[06:49] <Stormx2> !java | younghacker
[06:49] <christian_> Stormx2: not in OOP
[06:49] <ubotu> younghacker: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:49] <erUSUL> younghacker: install sun-java6-plugin
[06:49] <LordLimecat> why does ubotu suggest java5?
[06:49] <LordLimecat> o.0
[06:49] <christian_> Stormx2:  there is a better way to debug with a debugger
[06:49] <incorperated> ok  i installed all the depencies for cspace like pycurl,python,ctypes all i have left is cspacesrc126.zip
[06:49] <Dr_willis> old factoid
[06:49] <VeganChick> ergh...ubuntu is making me cranky...shouldn't it be really simple to boot from a cd?
[06:49] <younghacker> coolio
[06:49] <incorperated> can someone help me finish everything
[06:49] <Stormx2> LordLimecat: That's for dapper, I think.
[06:49] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: its not ubuntu, its macs using some crazy newfangled key to get into the bios
[06:50] <LordLimecat> why cant they use good old delete?
[06:50] <Siridivi> Hello folks, NDISGTK won't launch. I've looked and looked, now I'm humbling myself and asking for help. I'd really like to get my Ubuntu laptop wireless.
[06:50] <Stormx2> christian_: tbh, I find the PHP debug notices helpful enough anyway
[06:50] <Dr_willis> LordLimecat,  lets see.. i rember the 'c' key for cd.. then on some old ppc macs i had to go into the firmware and type some commands.. :0
[06:50] <hanocri_> hello everyone
[06:50] <Stormx2> Siridivi: If you run it from the command line, what happens?
[06:50] <LordLimecat> Dr_willis: is there a way to change boot order in the bios?
[06:50] <carlosqueso> LordLimecat: maybe they haven't updated ubotu yet?
[06:51] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: is trying to start up the live cd without having to hit that key
[06:51] <christian_> Stormx2: ok :-)
[06:51] <Dr_willis> LordLimecat,  i aint used a new intel based mac yet. cant tell ya.
[06:51] <Stormx2> christian_: How much is this IDE anyway?
[06:51] <Stormx2> christian_: Sounds like more trouble than it's worth.
[06:51] <Siridivi>     NdisGTK()
[06:51] <Siridivi>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 111, in __init__
[06:51] <Siridivi>     self.setup_driver_list()
[06:51] <Siridivi>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 140, in setup_driver_list
[06:51] <Siridivi>     self.get_driver_list()
[06:51] <Siridivi>   File "/usr/bin/ndisgtk", line 168, in get_driver_list
[06:51] <Siridivi>     driver_name = p.search(line).group()[:-1]    # strip trailing space
[06:51] <CheshireViking> !paste
[06:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <Siridivi> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'
[06:51] <erUSUL> !paste | Siridivi
[06:51] <ubotu> Siridivi: please see above
[06:51] <Siridivi> That was not supposed to happen.
[06:52] <LordLimecat> oh cool, ubotu doenst repeat himself
[06:52] <VeganChick> Dr_willis: this is a ppc mac...'c' key didn't work
[06:52] <LordLimecat> did you try the ctrl key, VeganChick
[06:52] <r00tintheb0x> so, since i helped so much last night
[06:52] <LordLimecat> someone said to try holding it
[06:52] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: will do
[06:52] <r00tintheb0x> who wants to help me with a problem today?
[06:52] <LordLimecat> wait
[06:52] <r00tintheb0x> http://pastebin.ca/raw/551036
[06:52] <LordLimecat> that may not be it
[06:52] <LordLimecat> lets look a little moer
[06:53] <Stormx2> r00tintheb0x: You might be in the wrong channel...
[06:53] <logmein> LordLimecat: hmm how do you take screenshots anyway?
[06:53] <Siridivi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24730/
[06:53] <Stormx2> logmein: print screen...
[06:53] <logmein> LordLimecat: I did something before with import command of imagemagick to do it before
[06:53] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: not it
[06:53] <LordLimecat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1958535
[06:53] <r00tintheb0x> Im not, im just wondering if there's any advanced users in here.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> VeganChick,  i also seem to recall some combo with the mouse, and the firmware stuff.. well i have to google for that every time i need it. last needed it 2 yrs ago.
[06:53] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: that thread may make more sense to you than me :)
[06:53] <phantomd1ta> r00tintheb0x: Is the filesystem fubared?
[06:54] <LordLimecat> ive never seen a mac boot
[06:54] <r00tintheb0x> negative.... i patched it and it did this.
[06:54] <Siridivi> It worked once when I first set this box up, hasn't worked since.
[06:54] <LordLimecat> wait, i wonder
[06:54] <Stormx2> LordLimecat: File a bug report? How did you install it?
[06:54] <LordLimecat> wait, what?
[06:54] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: rotfl...i've pretty much only ever used macs. used them my whole life.
[06:54] <Stormx2> Maybe I have the wrong person >.<
[06:54] <LordLimecat> Stormx2: im lost, what?
[06:54] <LordLimecat> what bug
[06:54] <DJ-_-> hi i m planning on installing ubuntu on a p3 500mhz 128sdram with 32mb shared vga
[06:54] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[06:54] <Stormx2> I meant Siridivi :)
[06:55] <phantomd1ta> r00tintheb0x: Huh.  Maybe there's an error in /etc/init?
[06:55] <Alcante> hi
[06:55] <DJ-_-> i tried the minimal cd but inb the base installation some packages fail so it does not complete properly
[06:55] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: itll run, if a LITTLE slow....192 megs ram is better
[06:55] <Siridivi> Mac? No, PC.
[06:55] <LordLimecat> but you can run a few apps no problem
[06:55] <DJ-_-> i tried ubuntu 6.06 but still problems
[06:55] <Stormx2> DJ-_-: I'd consider using xubuntu
[06:55] <DJ-_-> can anyone instruct me
[06:55] <r00tintheb0x> phantomd1ta, i think you're right
[06:55] <r00tintheb0x> phantomd1ta, i think a patch updated /etc/init and it doesn't like it.
[06:55] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: what issues did you run into
[06:55] <DJ-_-> i tried xubuntu 6.06 alternate cd but gave me that some packages were corrupt
[06:56] <DJ-_-> the minimal cd went ok until some packages of the base system did not download properly
[06:56] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: i'm not dualbooting. forgot to mention that. the laptop has solely ubuntu on it...which was probably a mistake
[06:56] <DJ-_-> should i download xubuntu alternate again and write and try?
[06:56] <Stormx2> DJ-_-: Run the command again, it'll download them
[06:56] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: i have no idea, but heres one more possible help:
[06:56] <LordLimecat> http://www.fif3.com/howto/archives/001983.html
[06:56] <DJ-_-> sotrmx2: no retry was given
[06:56] <carlosqueso> DJ-_-: can't hurt...make sure to burn on low speeds
[06:56] <LordLimecat> nto sure if that applies since you wiped it all
[06:57] <DJ-_-> carlosqueso: so i have to download the new images again? :S 512kpbs :S
[06:57] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: if you continue to have issues....
[06:57] <LordLimecat> shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <LordLimecat> er...http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <DJ-_-> i got the cds off there
[06:57] <LordLimecat> o.0 wierd
[06:57] <DJ-_-> the ubuntu 6.06 and 7.04
[06:57] <DJ-_-> i tried other options
[06:57] <LordLimecat> and it gave you an error each time?
[06:57] <DJ-_-> and server
[06:57] <carlosqueso> DJ-_-: you could try to just burn the image again, but at slow speed
[06:57] <Stormx2> VeganChick: if you simply can't access the bios, the mac might boot from floppy by default. You could use a boot floppy to boot to CD.
[06:57] <phantomd1ta> r00tintheb0x: http://www.sunmanagers.org/archives/1993/0971.html may be of use.
[06:57] <dawn_chorus> DJ-_-, selecting a different mirror from which to download the packages has helped my situation at times.
[06:58] <Tehkain> How would one go about checking a drive for errors?
[06:58] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: try verifying the cds @ boot before running the install
[06:58] <DJ-_-> all cds are perfect
[06:58] <Stormx2> Tehkain: A partition? fsck
[06:58] <VeganChick> Stormx2:  i don't even have a floppy drive in the house...
[06:58] <DJ-_-> i have done installation with those cds on my system
[06:58] <LordLimecat> let me ask you, is there another computer you can test the disks in?
[06:58] <Tehkain> stormx2, thanks
[06:58] <root___> can someone please help me with the command to install g++ on feisty?
[06:58] <cspaceguy> ok im trying to install cspace i got all the depenpencies but when i do python CSpace.pyw i get no module named ncrypt.rsa
[06:58] <LordLimecat> you MAY have a bad cd drive
[06:58] <cspaceguy> i assumed i installed it wrong can someone help me do it right
[06:58] <angel> hello i just want to ask on how to install software with .tar.gz file extension?
[06:58] <DJ-_-> LordLimecat: i have installed windows with the same drive
[06:59] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: d oes it give you the same error each time?
[06:59] <keck0f> hi.
[06:59] <cspaceguy> yes
[06:59] <ticky> does anybody know how can i update PERMANENTLY $PATH ?
[06:59] <VeganChick> LordLimecat: i tried 'alt' and that got to the manual loader screen...but all that shows up is the linux hd...
[06:59] <DJ-_-> anyway i can network boot the other machine?
[06:59] <r00tintheb0x> phantomd1ta, i've fixed this before... i just didnt notate how i did it.
[06:59] <phantomd1ta> Tehkain: You could also check teh SMART data too (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983)
[06:59] <LordLimecat> VeganChick: :( i dont know
[06:59] <Stormx2> root___: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:59] <r00tintheb0x> I believe, it jarbled the symlinks to tghe pseudo devices.
[06:59] <dawn_chorus> root___, you're not really connected to freenode as root, are you?
[06:59] <magnetron> root___:  the command is 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[06:59] <angel> hello i just want to ask on how to install software with .tar.gz file extension?
[06:59] <DJ-_-> or is downloadin new images and writin the best option?
[06:59] <phantomd1ta> r00tintheb0x: Ah, I've never used SunOS (Solaris?) so I really can't help that much.  :(
[06:59] <r00tintheb0x> hehe
[06:59] <DJ-_-> keep in mind 96mb ram
[06:59] <root___> nope...just a fake account i have set up
[06:59] <carlosqueso> angel: first, are you 100% sure it's not in the repos?
[06:59] <LordLimecat> dawn_chorus: im a bit new to both linux and irc, are you implying there is a security risk in irc?
[07:00] <angel> whats a repos?
[07:00] <Stormx2> cspaceguy: ncrypt or mcrypt?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> life is a security risk
[07:00] <Siridivi> Okay, updated problem description (ndisgtk won't launch): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24731/
[07:00] <DJ-_-> !repositories | angel
[07:00] <ubotu> angel: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:00] <Nanii> plese who can i Qyery?
[07:00] <angel> im new in ubuntu carlosqueso
[07:00] <carlosqueso> angel:  did you check the add/remove programs or synaptic for it?
[07:00] <ticky> anybody can help on the $PATH question?
[07:00] <LordLimecat> Nanii: whats the problem?
[07:00] <angel> nope not there
[07:00] <DJ-_-> can anyone tell me whether i should get xubuntu alternate for a 96mb?
[07:00] <dawn_chorus> LordLimecat, i've just heard that connecting to chat as root is bad, to always use a normal user.
[07:00] <root___> this is what i get :-->  Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[07:01] <carlosqueso> angel: what's the program?
[07:01] <angel> i have it in my desktop
[07:01] <angel> netscape
[07:01] <Stormx2> DJ-_-: Should be more than that....
[07:01] <DJ-_-> angel: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:01] <LordLimecat> dawn_chorus: ah....but no "hackers owned my box by iming me" stuff
[07:01] <ddazedd> ewww netscape
[07:01] <LordLimecat> thats good to hear :D
[07:01] <Toma-> DJ-_-: i installed xubuntu on a 64mb system
[07:01] <cspaceguy> what does build-essentials do
[07:01] <DJ-_-> Toma-: alternate cd i suppose?
[07:01] <ddazedd> www.netscape.com
[07:01] <angel> i just want to try something in netscape
[07:01] <Toma-> DJ-_-: dont expect great things
[07:01] <ddazedd> make make isntall
[07:01] <Stormx2> DJ-_-: Synaptic is installed by default.
[07:01] <Toma-> DJ-_-: of course
[07:01] <nicgios> hi, i have a problem, may i ask?
[07:01] <Myrtti> how did one search a string from man?
[07:01] <angel> i downloaded the file now i need it to be installed
[07:01] <DJ-_-> Toma: - ok will download the new images and try again thx
[07:01] <Toma-> np
[07:01] <DJ-_-> all da ppl thx for ya help
[07:01] <Nanii> hi
[07:01] <Stormx2> !ask | nicgios
[07:01] <ubotu> nicgios: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:01] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: if you continue to have problems, id still have a look @ the drive
[07:02] <ticky> hi nanii
[07:02] <LordLimecat> drives can be intermittent
[07:02] <ddazedd> angel do you have g++ compiler and u got the linux version of netscape
[07:02] <DJ-_-> Stormx2 LordLimecat and others if i missed
[07:02] <carlosqueso> angel: okay....then you need to fire up a terminal...and type cd Desktop then tar -xvzf <file name>
[07:02] <DJ-_-> thx
[07:02] <LordLimecat> DJ-_-: np :D
[07:02] <LordLimecat> gl
[07:02] <Stormx2> ddazedd: That's unhelpful.
[07:02] <angel> okay
[07:02] <DJ-_-> LordLimecat: i will keep that in mind
[07:02] <Stormx2> ddazedd: Netscape is closed source, ya? :)
[07:02] <DJ-_-> ok i ll let it d/l now
[07:02] <DJ-_-> lataz
[07:02] <magnetron> !away | Knoeki
[07:02] <ubotu> Knoeki: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[07:02] <Siridivi> NDISGTK won't launch.
[07:02] <LordLimecat> cya
[07:02] <ddazedd> Stormx2: i dunno dont use netscape lol
[07:02] <ticky> so. can't anybody really help? how do i update $PATH permanently
[07:02] <Knoeki> whoa, totally forgot I was even in here XD
[07:02] <Stormx2> ddazedd: Its closed source. It may well have a linux version, I don't know.
[07:03] <LordLimecat> lol
[07:03] <ticky> it looks like it's simple. but i think ubuntu/debian work differently
[07:03] <cspaceguy> so does anyone know my issue
[07:03] <angel> carlosqueso: done
[07:03] <cspaceguy> ok im trying to install cspace i got all the depenpencies but when i do python CSpace.pyw i get no module named ncrypt.rsa
[07:03] <keev> Is there a way to spy on a user who is logged into your network via terminal? watch user?
[07:03] <cspaceguy> lol
[07:03] <carlosqueso> okay...now type cd <name of the new directory>
[07:03] <ddazedd> whats the command to embed xterm and transparent background?
[07:03] <angel> ddazedd whats g++ compiler?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> keev,  theres login replacements that let ya do that. but you have to have it set up befor hand
[07:03] <LordLimecat> ticky: google turns up nothin?
[07:03] <ddazedd> angel: don't worry bout it quite yet
[07:03] <magnetron> keev: who are you? you need to have a court order for that
[07:04] <Stormx2> cspaceguy: Are you missing mcrypt or ncrypt?
[07:04] <cspaceguy> ncrypt
[07:04] <carlosqueso> angel: then look for an install.sh or something similar
[07:04] <iamtexture> i'm looking for a piece of software like think for osx - http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/productivity_tools/think.html
[07:04] <nicgios> I have installed ubuntu on a laptop without problems, then i set up a dual boot (with windos xp aaahh) and of course it destroyed my mbr... no problems I reinstalled grub and it was OK, BUT now each time i lauch window it erase again my mbr
[07:04] <keev> magnetron, lolol
[07:04] <nicgios> any ideas?
[07:04] <SoulChild> Ubuntu is an african word meaning "I can't configure Debian"
[07:04] <angel> ddaxedd i just need to install it just need to test something on it
[07:04] <iamtexture> mostly i just want to be able to throw a black translucent screen behind any piece of software with a key combo
[07:04] <iamtexture> anyone know of anything like this?
[07:04] <ticky> LordLimecat: i have already searched.. it said to update /etc/environment but i don't see the changes reflected
[07:04] <VeganChick> argh...both the 'c' key on boot and the 'opt' key on boot will only let me boot to my ubuntu hd. they both spit out the cd
[07:04] <icecruncher> !dualboot | iamtexture
[07:04] <ubotu> iamtexture: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:04] <magnetron> keev: it's called an "illegal wiretap"
[07:05] <keev> Dr_willis, do you kno what the name would be?
[07:05] <Dr_willis> keev,  nope.
[07:05] <LordLimecat> ticky: hmmm
[07:05] <iamtexture> good try bot
[07:05] <Dr_willis> keev,  theres proberly a dozen+ ways to share a console   :)
[07:05] <iamtexture> almost there
[07:05] <LordLimecat> dunno, but id be interested to see how to do it, ill look as well
[07:06] <carlosqueso> angel: do you see anything like that?
[07:06] <magnetron> keev: besides it's illegal, it's also disturbing
[07:06] <angel> carlosqueso: after finding the install.sh?
[07:06] <LordLimecat> ticky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326866
[07:06] <ticky> LordLimecat: i have read that debian works in a differnet way, i have already used export, PATH=$PATH:blahblah, and have edited /etc/environment but i cannot get it to work
[07:06] <LordLimecat> :D
[07:06] <carlosqueso> angel: you should be able to type sudo ./install.sh
[07:06] <keev> magnetron, i'm talking about watching someone on my network through terminal
[07:06] <carlosqueso> angel: then cross your fingers
[07:06] <magnetron> keev: me too
[07:07] <ticky> LordLimecat: thanks. but is there a way to do it natively?
[07:07] <ticky> not when the shell gets started
[07:07] <cspaceguy> brb
[07:08] <LordLimecat> ticky: i think there might be, since i think a program added /home/limecat/bin
[07:08] <LordLimecat> unless thats how it is by default
[07:08] <LordLimecat> but i cant tell you for sure
[07:08] <LordLimecat> ill keep lookin
[07:09] <LordLimecat> ticky: may i ask why you need to?
[07:09] <carlosqueso> angel: anyway....good luck...I must go.....but I'll be on later if it doesn't work
[07:09] <angel> oay thx
[07:09] <ddazedd> did that work angel?
[07:09] <n2diy> I just installed Korganizer on to my Dapper box, I imported my .ics file from my FC1 box, and everything looks ok, but my appointment alarms, don't alarm?
[07:09] <angel> no
[07:10] <ddazedd> didn't think so
[07:10] <ticky> LordLimecat: sure, i want to add ~/bin as you just mentioned, but also i want to create a new env. variable to use in one of my crontab scripts
[07:10] <ddazedd> let me pick up a copy of netscape and see whats going on
[07:10] <LordLimecat> ticky: so ~/bin is NOT default
[07:10] <LordLimecat> ?
[07:10] <LordLimecat> i can tell you a program that will automagically do what your asking, but i dont know how it does it
[07:11] <ddazedd> angel: so you have the downloaded file extracted somewhere correct like your desktop?
[07:11] <LordLimecat> ies4linux -- http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page -- will add ~/bin, i believe....
[07:11] <LordLimecat> you could probably just remove the program afterwards, although its a nice prog to have
[07:12] <jrib> ticky: /etc/environment is system-wide.  Is that what you want?
[07:12] <dbrewer_rjr> i set up virtual mail according to instructions on the ubuntu site, and i am getting strange messages from the nightly crontab
[07:12] <ticky> jrib: yes
[07:12] <phantomd1ta> (PATH=$PATH:~/bin name_of_program) should work in crontab.
[07:13] <ticky> jrib:  i have updated the file, but i cannot see the changes reflected
[07:13] <deefzi> does anyone are cedega-games possible to run in a windowed mode? (fallout 2 eg.)
[07:13] <jrib> ticky: logout and log back in
[07:13] <ticky> jrib: do i need to restart a service or something?
[07:13] <fxfitz> Can anyone tell me how to enable CGI in apache??
[07:13] <ticky> jrib: anyway to emulate that?
[07:13] <ryctor_> anyone using qemu with the kqemu module?
[07:13] <jrib> ticky: not really
[07:13] <erUSUL> ticky: ~/bin is added automatically by .bash_profile if it exists
[07:13] <ticky> jrib: shoooot
[07:13] <angel> yup ddazedd
[07:13] <usuario> usuario
[07:14] <angel> folder name navigator
[07:14] <ryctor_> I cant make the kqemu module to load, its not present or does not exist
[07:14] <ticky> erUSUL: will it work it's is run from the crontab (by this i mean, that not shell is initialized by me)
[07:14] <ddazedd> now im looking at it i dont see an install or configure let me do some reading real quick
[07:14] <ryctor_> without it , my laptop seems to explode of how slow and hot it gets
[07:14] <jrib> erUSUL: I don't think that gets sourced if you're in X though, does it?
[07:14] <jhaig> If I try watching streaming media via a web browser it tries to connect for a while and then fails.  However, I can use mplayer to dump the stream.  Is there a way to fix this?  An example is the "trailer" link on <http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2007/310.shtml>.  I am using firefox in Edgy.
[07:15] <angel> i just see run-mozilla.sh
[07:15] <erUSUL> ticky: no, i do not think so. And i think that running binaries from users home with cron is not a very good idea...
[07:15] <angel> that's what i think carlos i talking about
[07:15] <ticky> erUSUL: why is that?
[07:16] <n2diy> I just installed Korganizer on to my Dapper box, I imported my .ics file from my FC1 box, and everything looks ok, but my appointment alarms, don't alarm?
[07:16] <LordLimecat> ticky: you have full access to your bin directory without needing to sudo....
[07:16] <LordLimecat> if one of the files were replaced while you were logged in, it would be automatically run
[07:16] <erUSUL> jrib: checking... works for me (tm)
[07:17] <jrib> erUSUL: I know a couple of releases ago it didn't, just not sure if they source it somewhere now
[07:17] <beardbar> i am trying to run apt-get build-dep xserver-xorg-video-via and i have made sure i have my universe andmultivers repositories enabled but i keep getting unable to find package.
[07:17] <ticky> LordLimecat: sorry, but i cannot see the problem
[07:18] <valehru> anyone here have experience with squid?  on a fresh install I keep getting access denied when I try and access it as a proxy.
[07:18] <ticky> LordLimecat: it is accessing ~/bin
[07:18] <LordLimecat> right.....
[07:18] <LordLimecat> if you were to, say, need it to run as root, and added the file to your sudoers.....
[07:18] <premier> anyone knows if new feisty kernel upgrade fixed problem with sata hdd temp monitoring?
[07:19] <erUSUL> jrib: when i crate a new shell in screen the .bash_profile is interpreted... (.bash_profile sources .bashrc unconditionaly) afaics
[07:19] <LordLimecat> then if the file were replaced with a different one, that one would also have full control...
[07:19] <LordLimecat> and replacing it wouldnt require sudo access
[07:19] <beardbar> canyone tell me which repository i need to connection to for " xserver-xorg-video-via" i cant seem to find it
[07:19] <LordLimecat> so it could be done silently by any malicious program
[07:19] <Slart> can't VLC do some real fullscreen viewing? I still get gnome menues, window decorations etc
[07:20] <LordLimecat> just seems like a security risk to me
[07:20] <hemarsan_> kuiy
[07:20] <hemarsan_> uiii+
[07:22] <pyoro> hi
[07:22] <sam43255> where can i find a kubuntu 6.10 cd iso download?
[07:22] <pyoro> im having some troubles with ubuntu
[07:22] <remiss> hey.. anyone know how I can upgrade php to something newer on ubuntu 6.06?
[07:22] <pyoro> could anyone help me?
[07:23] <ticky> sam43255: i think in the kununtu site
[07:23] <ticky> did you google it?
[07:23] <jrib> sam43255: why would you want 6.10?
[07:23] <konam> pyoro what's your problem?
[07:23] <ticky> i'm sure you did not
[07:23] <ticky> jrib: probably because of hte LTS
[07:23] <sam43255> 6.10 is the only one that has working wireless after instealled
[07:23] <VeganChick> d'oh...i'd forgotten that i'd grabbed a hardware-specific  install disc. trying to install macbook (intel) software on an iBook (ppc) will never work...
[07:23] <jrib> ticky: 6.10 isn't LTS, 6.06 is LTS
[07:23] <ticky> jrib: right
[07:25] <jrib> sam43255: and 7.04 doesn't?  Did you file a bug?  here you go: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/
[07:25] <ticky> LordLimecat: waitaaaaaaaaminute.. so crontab is executed as root.? i still don't get this
[07:25] <pyoro> i installed recently the ubuntu 7.10 64bits version, its the first time i use linux based os, so i practically know nothing, im having problems with ceratin wifi drivers, java, flash, etc. so i wanted to change to 32 bits version, i think it would be easyer for now, to get involved and later on install the otrher one, the thing is that when i boot the pc with the 32bit version (also with the 64) and want to install the system gets stucked
[07:26] <pyoro> it wont run by anyway
[07:26] <premier> pyoro, tried safe graphics booting option?
[07:26] <pyoro> yes
[07:26] <tritium> pyoro: unfortunately, you won't get flash working on 64 bit, but the others you should be able to get working with little trouble
[07:26] <pyoro> the same thing happens
[07:26] <LordLimecat> ticky: im not sure and i dont claim to be an expert
[07:26] <Pici> pyoro: Are you sure you installed 7.10 and not 7.04?
[07:26] <logmein> LordLimecat: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z112/SomeDude_album/screenshot-20070608092144.png xfce desktop
[07:27] <LordLimecat> but i personally wouldnt feel comfortable running something on a schedual from a location where it can easily be replaced
[07:27] <angel> another question how can i install wine?
[07:27] <ADINSX> hi im having some problems with my sources.list in fiesty fawn
[07:27] <pyoro> well yes, but i checked some internet pages and it says that the performance is almost the same
[07:27] <ADINSX> i was wondering where i could get a replacement for the file or something
[07:27] <pyoro> yes sorry 7.04
[07:27] <premier> pyoro, about the java, you can create a 32bit chroot and run a 32bit version of firefox or other browser from within it, so doing you can have flash etc
[07:27] <LordLimecat> if you had the bin somewhere else, you would HAVE to give the password if anything tried to replace it
[07:27] <premier> !chroot > pyoro
[07:28] <ticky> LordLimecat: may i msg you in private?
[07:28] <Ki0wa>  Salve a TuTTi gente di #ubuntu 
[07:28] <angel> how can i install and get wine?
[07:28] <Pici> !it | Ki0wa
[07:28] <ubotu> Ki0wa: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:28] <ticky> Ki0wa: i think we only speak english here.
[07:29] <LordLimecat> ticky: sure
[07:29] <fiber> hello, i have a program that is not letting go of my /dev/sda2 and when i do a ps -A it shows the process as defunct but i can't kill -9 it... any recommendations?
[07:29] <jrib> !wine > angel (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:29] <pyoro> thanks for the tip, but i also have troubles with my driver of the wifi card in 64
[07:30] <Slart> fiber: reboot? I think it's the only way to get rid of zombie processes
[07:30] <pyoro> wmp54g linksys
[07:30] <Rprp> hi, im on gutsy now, but how can i get the fonts of feisty?
[07:30] <phantomd1ta> fiber: Can you kill -9 it as root?
[07:30] <LordLimecat> Slart: would init 1 not do it?
[07:30] <rociof> hola estoy en los ordenadores
[07:30] <fiber> Slart: damn... the problem with that is the shutdown process hangs when it tries to unmount /dev/sda2 and then my root partitions become dirty
[07:30] <Pici> !es | rociof
[07:30] <ubotu> rociof: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:30] <fiber> phantomd1ta: nope, that doesn't fix it
[07:30] <Slart> LordLimecat: I have no idea.. reboot was the answer I got when I asked the same question a couple of weeks ago
[07:31] <LordLimecat> fiber: as a last resort....
[07:31] <LordLimecat> perhaps try sudo init 1?  keep in mind this will dump you to single user mode
[07:31] <LordLimecat> and a ton of stuff wont work
[07:31] <LordLimecat> sudo init (any number >1 and <6
[07:31] <n2diy> I just installed Korganizer on to my Dapper box, I imported my .ics file from my FC1 box, and everything looks ok, but my appointment alarms, don't alarm?
[07:31] <LordLimecat> gets you out
[07:31] <phantomd1ta> fiber: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/zombies.html
[07:32] <Rprp> hi, im on gutsy now, but how can i get the fonts of feisty?
[07:32] <erUSUL> !gutsy
[07:32] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[07:32] <fiber> phantomd1ta: thanks, i'll check that out
[07:33] <anthony_> Can anyone give me an absolute beginner's explanation of how to extract a tar.gz archive to a folder. I'm getting errors and obviously trying the wrong things.
[07:33] <LordLimecat> ticky: msg away :)
[07:33] <dawn_chorus> anthony_, you can also extract it via graphical interface, until you learn the command line way of doing it.
[07:33] <nickrud> anthony_, right click it in the file manager, select extract
[07:33] <anthony_> Okay.
[07:34] <keck0f> "apt-cache search lame | grep lame" only shows toolame and glame. Is original "lame" available?
[07:34] <LordLimecat> is anyone good with evolution?  im trying to set up my gmail account with it and for some reason i cant connect
[07:34] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: using ssl?  change the ports?
[07:34] <LordLimecat> tried both with and without the SSL option on, manually specifying the ports with ":995"
[07:34] <nickrud> keck0f, it's available in multiverse
[07:34] <anthony_> nickrud smooth, I don't know why i didn't see that option before.
[07:34] <keck0f> !multiverse
[07:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:35] <keck0f> !EasySource
[07:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:35] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: have you enabled pop acces in gmail web interface?
[07:35] <keck0f>  nickrud: thanx
[07:35] <LordLimecat> erUSUL: yes...
[07:35] <LordLimecat> and i just did it again to be sure
[07:35] <erUSUL> LordLimecat: it works here...
[07:35] <nickrud> anthony_, double clicking it will get you a nice graphical app to manipulate it too ;)
[07:35] <jinesh> hey anyone got ubuntu as guest on vm and windows xp as host ?
[07:35] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat:
[07:35] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: You came by Visual Science last Friday, I think, and installed a DVD
[07:36] <bur[n] er> drive from one computer into another computer (my computer!). I have
[07:36] <bur[n] er> doh :\
[07:36] <burepe> I have to reinstall my system. Where is the mysql information for my drupal install stored?
[07:36] <bur[n] er> attempted to burn a DVD, and the computer doesn't recognize it as being
[07:36] <bur[n] er> able to do such a thing. Do I need to download/install a new driver? It
[07:36] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287  <--this is what I meant to paste ;)
[07:36] <nickrud> burepe, /var/lib/mysql
[07:36] <anthony_> nickrud doubleclicking the folder it extracted to or the original archive?
[07:36] <burepe> thanks
[07:36] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er:
[07:36] <nickrud> anthony_, the original archive
[07:36] <LordLimecat> yea, im doing all that
[07:37] <jinesh> how to share files between win xp host and ubuntu guest on vmware
[07:37] <jinesh> some one plz answer me
[07:37] <anthony_> nickrud I tried that, but it always gave me an error.
[07:38] <niekie> jinesh: through the normal networking?
[07:38] <anthony_> right-clicking and extracting from that menu worked, however
[07:38] <jinesh> niekie can u plz explain in detaikl
[07:38] <niekie> jinesh: I don't know VMware that well, so it might have a special feature for transferring files.
[07:38] <niekie> But transferring files over the network should work fine also.
[07:38] <nickrud> anthony_, type file-roller in a terminal
[07:39] <jinesh> u mean tht i shd setup network ??
[07:39] <niekie> jinesh: share a folder in Windows XP on the host... and you should be able to access it in the guest.
[07:39] <nickrud> anthony_, that's the app that should get called when you double click
[07:39] <niekie> jinesh: I am not sure..
[07:39] <jinesh> ok thanks niekie
[07:39] <niekie> I don't know if VMware has a feature to transfer files without that.
[07:39] <anthony_> What does that do, nickrud?
[07:39] <jinesh> sharing actually works
[07:39] <jinesh> but there is a small problem
[07:39] <niekie> Though you should also be able to transfer files normally just like you would do with real networked PCs ;)
[07:39] <nickrud> anthony_, that will start the app that should be called when you double click.
[07:40] <jinesh> it might open sharing on internet
[07:40] <niekie> jinesh: what is the small problem?
[07:40] <niekie> jinesh: ah.
[07:40] <niekie> jinesh: do you have a router?
[07:40] <jinesh> no
[07:40] <bur[n] er> jinesh: do you have bridged networking?  change it to a NAT
[07:40] <anthony_> When I double click I get Xarchiver.
[07:40] <niekie> jinesh: hrmm..
[07:40] <niekie> jinesh: are you using a firewall?
[07:40] <jinesh> windows firewall
[07:40] <anthony_> nickrud, is that the problem?
[07:40] <niekie> jinesh: hrmm..
[07:40] <jinesh> i m nt gud with networking
[07:41] <keck0f>  nickrud: i've just dublicated the two apt-lines about "universe" and then replaced the word "universe" with "multiverse" in the copied lines. And it works. Thanx.
[07:41] <jinesh> u have ne idea ?
[07:41] <niekie> jinesh: I think there are some issues with the Windows firewall.
[07:41] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: is...it possible the gmail pop servers are down? i cannot telnet to port 995....
[07:41] <jinesh> i agree
[07:41] <nickrud> anthony_, right click the tar.gz, select properties at the bottom, and choose Archive Manager from the Open With tab
[07:41] <niekie> I'm not that experienced with Windows firewalls though.
[07:41] <jinesh> ubuntu has any firewall
[07:41] <nickrud> keck0f, great
[07:41] <niekie> Through ZoneAlarm might be better.
[07:41] <niekie> jinesh: not by default.
[07:41] <LordLimecat> can anyone try to telnet to pop.gmail.com 995?
[07:41] <jinesh> ok
[07:41] <jinesh> so wats the name
[07:41] <niekie> As it runs no world-accessible daemons by default.
[07:41] <jinesh> and how can i install it
[07:41] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: nope
[07:41] <anthony_> Thanks. Another question, nickrud, if you are familiar with xubuntu: How do I install a theme once I have it extracted?
[07:41] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: you have firewall?
[07:41] <LordLimecat> cant connect?
[07:42] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: only my router, and what came with ubuntu
[07:42] <niekie> jinesh: do you just want to get files from your Windows XP computer to your Ubuntu guest?
[07:42] <nickrud> anthony_, ah, xubuntu. Not a clue anymore, I only toyed with xfce years ago
[07:42] <LordLimecat> but surely that wouldnt stop pop access
[07:42] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: it shoudl just work.  they're not down
[07:42] <jinesh> yes and want to protect my pc also
[07:42] <pc_> server irc-hispano.org
[07:42] <LordLimecat> maybe im blocked for a while -_-
[07:42] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: it shouldn't... try thunderbird?
[07:42] <lukillas> hi all, is there any way to translate openoffice suite from english to spanish?
[07:42] <nickrud> anthony_, but I'd look in ~/.xfce or a similar folder for a themes directory
[07:43] <anthony_> I'll try that.
[07:43] <jinesh> niekie m waiting for your reply
[07:43] <niekie> jinesh: you should get a firewall that blocks your outside network (the internet) from accessing your internal network.
[07:43] <jinesh> ok
[07:43] <niekie> jinesh: easy... I'm not that used to typing on this keyboard :P
[07:43] <jinesh> and u suggest zone alram right ?
[07:43] <niekie> jinesh: you could go for others..
[07:43] <jinesh> no its ok
[07:44] <jinesh> u r very nice person
[07:44] <niekie> But I mainly know ZoneAlarm.
[07:44] <jinesh> ok
[07:44] <niekie> jinesh: thank you, I try to be :)
[07:44] <jinesh> i can wait for your reply
[07:44] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: alright, grabbin it now
[07:44] <jinesh> u r indeed dear friend
[07:44] <kmaynard> i kees you
[07:44] <mythtv> good day all
[07:44] <keev> is there a way to view a users passwd when logged in as root?
[07:44] <mythtv> which video recording question
[07:44] <niekie> jinesh: after you protect your external network from accessing your internal network..
[07:44] <mythtv> i want to record from my cable box to my linux box using my pvr card
[07:44] <niekie> You can enable file sharing in Windows XP on a folder or a hard drive..
[07:45] <niekie> And then you should be able to access those files from the Ubuntu guest..
[07:45] <jinesh> ok
[07:45] <mythtv> so far i can record doing the following
[07:45] <niekie> If you access that PC.
[07:45] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all, if somebody who good in user/group permissions have time, please msg me!
[07:45] <dbrewer_rjr> i set up virtual email according to the instructions on the ubuntu website. Now i am getting weird messages from crontab. i am getting emails from the amavis nightly cron that says plugin: failed to parse plugin (from @INC): Can't locate  Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Check.pm in @INC : for about 30 different plugins. whats up with that?
[07:45] <jinesh> one more thing niekie
[07:45] <mythtv> cat /dev/video1 > file.mpeg
[07:45] <niekie> jinesh: you can probably access it with smb://nameofthewindowsxppc
[07:45] <burepe>  I am trying to copy the /var/lib/mysql over a network but I don't have the proper permissions. I have my drive with my old messed install mounted with the live cd. Is there anyway to get the files besides configuring samba? Can I even configure samba on the live cd?
[07:45] <jinesh> which is good firewall for ubuntu
[07:45] <niekie> Replace nameofthewindowsxppc with the name of the said PC, of course.
[07:45] <anthony_> nickrud - Can't find that folder. Anybody know where themes are installed on xubuntu?
[07:45] <mythtv> any suggestions anyone
[07:45] <jinesh> yep
[07:45] <Salaah> my ubuntu installation doesnt boot anymore
[07:45] <bur[n] er> jinesh: firestarter
[07:46] <erUSUL> !firewall | jinesh
[07:46] <ubotu> jinesh: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:46] <Salaah> it just stops are the ubuntu loading screen
[07:46] <niekie> jinesh: many frontends actually use the IPTables system.
[07:46] <nickrud> lukillas, you can install openoffice.org-l10n-es
[07:46] <Salaah> can someone help
[07:46] <orange_plasma> hi, i'm a noob, just nuked windows and put ubuntu on. When I go to 'Restricted Drivers Manager' I see 'Nvidia Accelerated Graphics Driver' I tick enabled and confirm and then after a short pause it returns but the checkbox is still unchecked and it says 'Not in use'. Please help. thanks!
[07:46] <lukillas> ok nickrud, i'll try, thanks
[07:46] <MetaMorfoziS> How can i work out to user A get permission only for /media/hda4/foo but nothing upper that /media/hda4/foo ?
[07:46] <niekie> jinesh: if you want extreme configurability, you can use iptables by itself..
[07:46] <erUSUL> !nvidia | orange_plasma
[07:46] <ubotu> orange_plasma: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:46] <niekie> Though you can use a frontend too :)
[07:46] <dbrewer_rjr> jinesh: shorewall has native support for shorewall
[07:47] <niekie> dbrewer_rjr: hrmm.. that name sounds familiar...
[07:47] <jinesh> ok friends
[07:47] <JASONH> JASON HALLAMEYA
[07:47] <dbrewer_rjr> jinesh: oops: webminl has native support for shorewall
[07:47] <jinesh> i ll check out the link and be right back
[07:47] <jinesh> thanks for answering my queries
[07:47] <dbrewer_rjr> jinesh: oops: webmin has native support for shorewall
[07:47] <niekie> Ah, found :)
[07:47] <erUSUL> !webmin | dbrewer_rjr
[07:47] <ubotu> dbrewer_rjr: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[07:47] <Salaah> it just stops are the ubuntu loading screen
[07:47] <Salaah> can someone help
[07:47] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: yea, cant connect
[07:47] <burepe> Salaah, when you boot press esc, that will take you to the grub screen. Then from there use E to edit out the word "quiet" and "splash" from the boot command. Then you can see what is happening when it boots
[07:47] <LordLimecat> if googles down, im stockpiling food
[07:47] <nickrud> lukillas, you'll also need  myspell-dictionary-es, openoffice.org-hyphenation-es, openoffice.org2-thesaurus-es and    openoffice.org-help-es
[07:47] <kmaynard> i likes webmin
[07:47] <Salaah> i cant go beyond the bootsplash
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[07:47] <JASONH> HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYAJASOOOON HALLLLAMEYA
[07:47] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: sorry senor... it works for me :)  google is not down... did you "just" enable pop access/
[07:47] <orange_plasma> oh, so I must install them first? I thought that the restricted drivers manager would do that? ok, wish me luck
[07:48] <orange_plasma> thanks btw
[07:48] <dbrewer_rjr> ubotu: now you tell me. i just put it on my prod box
[07:48] <niekie> Oh my.
[07:48] <kmaynard> ha
[07:48] <LordLimecat> wow, he just got owned
[07:48] <burepe> Salaah, did you see what I wrote?
[07:48] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: im PRETTY sure it was previously enabled
[07:48] <Salaah> yes i did,
[07:48] <LordLimecat> regardless, i should be able to actually connect to the server--i havent supplied a password
[07:48] <LordLimecat> so it cant know who i am yet
[07:48] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: pop.gmail.com on port 995 works very well here... what error doyou get?
[07:48] <Salaah> if it helps, recovery mode doesnt boot either
[07:49] <dbrewer_rjr> ubotu: what has replaced webmin?
[07:49] <lukillas> nickrud, my openoffice now is in spanish, thanks =)
[07:49] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: timeout.....i dont think it has anythin to do with my account
[07:49] <burepe> Salaah, do what I said.
[07:49] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: sure you enabled ssl?
[07:49] <Salaah> ok...
[07:49] <Salaah> brb
[07:49] <arpegius> trying to install lame, but don't see any package for it. i've got universe enabled. help?
[07:49] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: yea.....
[07:49] <PreZGN> *sigh* this restricted drivers stuff in ubuntu is just plain annoying
[07:49] <nickrud> lukillas, did you see the previous line, about more support packages?
[07:49] <PreZGN> I stil can't get it right
[07:49] <DJ-_-> how do i remove icons like floopy disk from the desktop
[07:49] <DJ-_-> i tried the desktop manager does not help
[07:49] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: uBOTu is a bot ;P
[07:49] <LordLimecat> ssl for pop, tls for smtp
[07:49] <DJ-_-> i am on xfce
[07:49] <bur[n] er> DJ-_-: gconf-editor... apps->nautilus->desktop
[07:50] <dbrewer_rjr> erUSUL: so webmin is still ok?
[07:50] <DJ-_-> bur[n] er: xfce?
[07:50] <lukillas> nickrud, yes, i've installed all those packages with apt-get
[07:50] <jinesh> friends iptables is very complex
[07:50] <kmaynard> mythtv, http://www.mythbuntu.org/
[07:50] <LordLimecat> bur[n] er: this is how my screen looks: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=38343
[07:50] <bur[n] er> DJ-_-: oh... got me :)
[07:50] <erUSUL> dbrewer_rjr: no, ubotu is allways right in what he says
[07:50] <nickrud> jinesh, shorewall is a nice iptables setup front end
[07:50] <Zenerek> got a problem, yesterday i fully updated my dapper install(took at least 8 hrs) and today i fire my box up and find that opera won't run, i tried to remove and reinstall more than one time,hand deleted the contents of the .opera folder in my home directory and still no dice, so i try to launch via terminal first with sudo then without, anyway here's the terminal ouput    ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: i
[07:50] <LordLimecat> oops...http://mail.google.com/mail/help/images/screenshots/thunderbird1_5/server_settings.gif
[07:50] <Zenerek> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[07:50] <Zenerek> opera: $HOME set to /root. Use -personaldir if you do not want to use /root/.opera/
[07:50] <Zenerek> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:50] <Zenerek>   Major opcode:  145
[07:50] <erUSUL> !ubotu > dbrewer_rjr
[07:50] <Zenerek>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:50] <p1ls> hello, is anyone using xfce here?
[07:50] <Zenerek>   Resource id:  0x0
[07:50] <bur[n] er> LordLimecat: email google? ;)
[07:50] <Zenerek> Failed to open device
[07:50] <Zenerek> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:51] <Zenerek>   Major opcode:  145
[07:51] <roryy> arpegius: it's in multiverse
[07:51] <LordLimecat> !paste | Zenerek
[07:51] <ubotu> Zenerek: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:51] <Zenerek>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:51] <DJ-_-> bur[n] er: ya, do you know of anyway i ca remove these icons from the desktop for XFCE
[07:51] <roryy> !info lame | arpegius
[07:51] <ubotu> arpegius: lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[07:51] <p1ls> i have a problem when i go into Xfce settings manager, and click on panel it dosen tpe
[07:51] <arpegius> thank you
[07:51] <p1ls> dosent ope
[07:51] <LordLimecat> zenerek: .....dont flood please :)
[07:51] <kmaynard> too loate
[07:51] <arpegius> can i just change 'universe' to 'multiverse' in my sources.list?
[07:51] <ajlienu> ola
[07:52] <kmaynard> arpegius, they're 2 different things
[07:52] <roryy> arpegius: have both
[07:52] <DJ-_-> Anyone know how I can remove icons from the desktop? I am on Xfce, I tried the desktop manager but it does not help. Any other ways?
[07:52] <erUSUL> arpegius: no 'add' multiverse to the lines... better use synaptic though
[07:52] <cspaceguy> ok im back
[07:52] <LordLimecat> i wonder if theres a #google
[07:52] <cspaceguy> can someone help me with cspace
[07:52] <cspaceguy> the ncrypt please
[07:52] <LordLimecat> wow, there is :D
[07:52] <bondy> ola
[07:53] <twomonkies> im stuck with the install of ubuntu.. someone have time for a question?
[07:53] <niekie> jinesh: sorry.. I got distracted for a moment.
[07:53] <niekie> jinesh: unfortunately, it is, yes.
[07:53] <niekie> I don't understand most of it too.
[07:53] <niekie> jinesh: you can use a frontend for it, which will make it easier.
[07:53] <cspaceguy> so can anyone help me
[07:54] <niekie> But will take some of the configurability away, usually.
[07:54] <DJ-_-> twomonkies; go on
[07:54] <dragon> hey guyz i need some help with aiglx
[07:54] <niekie> Or maybe break a few things, if it is a bad frontend.
[07:54] <dragon> how do i see if it is in my system an if it functions properly?
[07:54] <vuestra> ola
[07:54] <bee2643> There are some bug fixes/features that KDE 3.5.7 fix/implement that i would love to use...I just started using kubuntu from gentoo, anyone have any idea how to get 3.5.7KDE installed?
[07:54] <roryy> cspaceguy: what's cspace?  how's it related to ubuntu?
[07:55] <cspaceguy> hold on
[07:55] <DJ-_-> !cspace
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cspace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <hackeron> Hey, it says on ubuntudaily.com that Gusty Gibbon repositories are open? -- But I tried to change feisty to gusty in my sources.list but when I do an apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade -- there are no new packages???
[07:55] <DJ-_-> uhh
[07:55] <jinesh> how to get options in firewall
[07:55] <cspaceguy> http://cspace.in/
[07:55] <dragon> anyone can tell me how to lsee if i have the aiglx
[07:55] <dragon> ?
[07:55] <cspaceguy> look at that
[07:55] <nickrud> dragon, try grep -i aiglx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:56] <jinesh> i dont see options available under tool
[07:56] <roryy> hackeron: maybe ask on #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:56] <dragon> grep -i aiglx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:56] <hackeron> roryy: thanks
[07:56] <dragon> (==) AIGLX enabled
[07:56] <dragon> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[07:56] <DJ-_-> uhh lol
[07:56] <cspaceguy> lol
[07:56] <dragon> what does this exatctly mean to me?
[07:56] <mythtv> i want to record from my cable box to my linux box using my pvr card
[07:57] <anthony_> Does anyone know where themes are stored in xubuntu?
[07:57] <mythtv> so far i can record doing the following
[07:57] <mythtv> cat /dev/video1 > file.mpeg
[07:57] <mythtv> any suggestions anyone
[07:57] <dad> Hello, how does one configure desktop effects settings? is that done through plugins?
[07:57] <bee2643> anyone have any idea how to get 3.5.7KDE installed in ubuntu?
[07:57] <cspaceguy> http://cspace.in/
[07:57] <cspaceguy> anyone
[07:57] <mythtv> i want to record from my cable box to my linux box using my pvr card
[07:57] <mythtv> so far i can record doing the following
[07:57] <mythtv> cat /dev/video1 > file.mpeg
[07:57] <mythtv> any suggestions anyone
[07:57] <jinesh> can anyone tell me how to get options in firefox under tools menu
[07:58] <dragon> what do i do with dri?
[07:58] <mythtv> i want to record from my cable box to my linux box using my pvr card
[07:58] <mythtv> so far i can record doing the following
[07:58] <mythtv> cat /dev/video1 > file.mpeg
[07:58] <nickrud> dragon, what kind of card?
[07:58] <mythtv> any suggestions anyone
[07:58] <nickrud> dragon, *video
[07:58] <jinesh> can anyone tell me how to get options in firefox under tools menu
[07:58] <cspaceguy> dammit
[07:58] <dragon> x1400 mobility
[07:58] <cspaceguy> lol
[07:58] <cspaceguy> i neeeeed help
[07:58] <erUSUL> !ati | dragon
[07:58] <ubotu> dragon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <anthony_> Anyone here have any experience installing themes in xubuntu without an internet connection?
[07:59] <cspaceguy> and i cant get it anywhere else
[07:59] <Pici> cspaceguy: What are you trying to do?
[07:59] <cspaceguy> install it
[07:59] <mythtv> i want to record from my cable box to my linux box using my pvr 500 card
[07:59] <mythtv> so far i can record doing the following
[07:59] <mythtv> cat /dev/video1 > file.mpeg
[07:59] <dragon> tnx
[07:59] <mythtv> any suggestions anyone
[07:59] <mutenewt> jinesh are you just looking for preferences?
[07:59] <cspaceguy> i got all the dependencies but when i use python cspace.pyw to start it i get ncrypt.rsa no modules found
[08:00] <jinesh> not exactly
[08:00] <jinesh> i want to change my homepage
[08:00] <jinesh> and perform other settings
[08:00] <mutenewt> thats preferences under edit
[08:00] <jinesh> ok let me check
[08:01] <cspaceguy> pici can you help
[08:01] <jinesh> mutenewt thanks
[08:01] <cspaceguy> ?
[08:01] <mutenewt> np
[08:01] <Pici> cspaceguy: I'm not familiar with those programs, sorry.
[08:01] <roryy> cspaceguy: i suggest you e-mail the cspace users list; seems like you can subscribe here: http://tachyon.in/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cspace-users
[08:02] <cspaceguy> ok
[08:03] <dragon> umm guyz can anyone tell me what is going on?dragon@dragon:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
[08:03] <dragon> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[08:03] <dragon>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[08:03] <dragon>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[08:03] <dragon>   Serial number of failed request:  16
[08:03] <dragon>   Current serial number in output stream:  17
[08:03] <jrib> !paste | dragon
[08:03] <ubotu> dragon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:03] <Zenerek> i'm back, sorry about flooding the the room, anyway i updated my dapper install yesterday and today i can't seem to get opera to run, removed and reinstalled more than one time and cleaned the contents of the .opera folder in the my home folder still not working, here's a link to the terminal ouput   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24738/
[08:03] <dragon> ok sorry
[08:03] <deviance> Just a quick question, on the old ISO's it had a non gui install option, is this still avalible, or is it only GUI these days?
[08:03] <dragon> still
[08:03] <erUSUL> !alternate
[08:03] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:03] <roryy> deviance: use the alternate cd
[08:03] <dragon> can anyone help?
[08:04] <orange_plasma> hey guy's, i have an iPod, what software is most advisable to use with it in Ubuntu?
[08:04] <greyfrog> deviance, only GUI these days I believe...  I think the server install disk is non-gui
[08:05] <greyfrog> stylus1, there could be a boot option I'm unaware of though
[08:05] <Zenerek> deviance: yeah alternate man, it's even got some extra options that the gui version does not , then there is the server  version
[08:05] <PetarM> salve
[08:05] <PetarM> is here someone who knows a lot of ati-drivers for linux?
[08:05] <greyfrog> stylus1, theres more info from ubotu...
[08:05] <jinesh> can reading of any book on ubuntu help me
[08:06] <greyfrog> !install | stylus1
[08:06] <ubotu> stylus1: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:06] <Deinumite> anyone here played around with moka5?
[08:07] <r00723r0> hi
[08:07] <Zenerek> PetarM i believe at most there are only 3 driver sets avialable for ati cards
[08:07] <r00723r0> i just installed ubuntu, but when i boot my computer up it gives me a grub error 17
[08:07] <r00723r0> what do i do?
[08:07] <r00723r0> i have 2 drives, and i was pretty sure that grub had the drives in the wrong order (with hd0 and hd1)
[08:08] <PetarM> Zenerek: I am using an ATI RV530 [Radeon X1600]  graphic card. The now using driver doesnt support Beryl!
[08:08] <r00723r0> it did, and i fixed it, but that didn't stop the error
[08:08] <clutchmm> how do I restart samba from a terminal?
[08:08] <grodius> Hey how do you add a program to boot at ubuntu
[08:08] <grodius> on ubuntu*
[08:08] <trelayne> hi all, I have a core 2 duo. I would like to install ubuntu. Do I go for the 64 bit version>
[08:08] <roryy> clutchmm: if i recall correctly, 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart'
[08:09] <jrib> trelayne: 32bit version will give you less headaches
[08:09] <PetarM> trelayne, i think not.
[08:09] <royel> Can someone point me to, or reccomend a good gigabit ethernet card that is fully detected with Ubuntu 6.06 (LTS server)?
[08:09] <greyfrog> r00723r0, grub error 17 = grub not being able to recoginze the filesystem I think...
[08:09] <r00723r0> greyfrog, i'm on ext3
[08:09] <r00723r0> which is odd
[08:09] <clutchmm> roryy: thanks that worked
[08:09] <r00723r0> ext3 is the most popular
[08:09] <trelayne> jrib thanks.. I needed to know since I've been hearing that support for some simple  apps is not there yet
[08:09] <greyfrog> r00723r0, maybe it didn't create the fs correctly... not sure why though :(
[08:09] <r00723r0> actually
[08:10] <r00723r0> 17 : "Invalid device requested"
[08:10] <r00723r0> This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors.
[08:10] <brum> trelayne: im running 32bit on core 2 duo
[08:10] <roryy> hrm. I have "17 : Cannot mount selected partition" in my grub manual for stage 2 errors
[08:10] <brum> trelayne: works well
[08:10] <r00723r0> roryy, odd
[08:10] <r00723r0> i'm looking at the website
[08:10] <magicrobotmonkey> is it possible to compile java on linux on sparc yet?
[08:10] <r00723r0> nevermind
[08:10] <r00723r0> unofficial :(
[08:11] <niekie> !book |jinesh
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about book - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <trelayne> brum thanks... any here running ubuntu on dell inspiron 6400 ? w/ 2GB, I would like to know what problems I expect to run into
[08:11] <niekie> Hrmm..
[08:11] <tom__> Hi Guys And Gals - i have just installed ubuntu and looking to switch - but i have some issues with my resolution. Its below normal (im stuck on 1024x768) when i should be on at least 1280 x 1024. How do i go about changing this? (its not in the options for resolution)
[08:11] <greyfrog> r00723r0, sounds like you might need to recreate the fs... is this a new install hopefully?
[08:11] <Zenerek> PetarM really, i got a 1650 pro 550 ddr on my big machine, anyway i don't know what to tell you about Beryl i heard it said on this channel not ito install it because it's no ready yet and if you want to use that card to it's most you need the latest drivers, linux one's mean
[08:11] <r00723r0> eword
[08:11] <r00723r0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[08:11] <r00723r0> *weird
[08:11] <r00723r0> greyfrog, yes
[08:12] <roryy> r00723r0: you've checked things out with the livecd?  You said you fixed the drive order?
[08:12] <PetarM> okay, Zenerek. Im going to ask the question in #beryl
[08:12] <r00723r0> yeah, i had to use my gentoo livecd
[08:12] <niekie> tom__: what video card are you using?
[08:12] <r00723r0> didn't help though
[08:12] <jinesh> yes niekie
[08:12] <tom__> niekie: ITs an ATI Radeon X800
[08:12] <niekie> tom__: ah.
[08:12] <jinesh> a book or tutorial or something
[08:13] <lithaborn> hi, can i ask about network cards in here?
[08:13] <chainlynx> hey all, I have wpasupplicant installed but for some reason the WPA options are not showing up in the administration->network->properties menu... does anyone know what might be going wrong?
[08:13] <niekie> tom__: are you using restricted drivers?
[08:13] <tom__> Niekie: not sure - how do i check? :)
[08:13] <jinesh> niekie : book or tutorial or something
[08:13] <greyfrog> r00723r0, did you try fiddling with your BIOS and the drive's type? (as in the forum post...)
[08:13] <niekie> tom__: you are not using them by default..
[08:13] <starhawk> hi I am tring to install the new java on kubuntu 7.04
[08:13] <r00723r0> greyfrog, nope, will do
[08:13] <niekie> So if you haven't installed them.. ;)
[08:13] <tom__> niekie: Head over to add and remove and get them downloaded then? :)
[08:13] <greyfrog> r00723r0, not sure what that would do... good luck though :)
[08:14] <niekie> tom__: nope.
[08:14] <roryy> r00723r0: perhaps you could put menu.lst and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on the pastebin; will let us at least see if things are matching up.  It sounds like you have some idea about all this though, so probably not a simple error.
[08:14] <[seeker] > I want to increase the buffer size for Kaffeine so I can view Divx streams (mostly old tv shows) without a lot of buffering (since my max DSL is only 758k). Any idea how I can make Kaffeine's buffer bigger?
[08:14] <niekie> tom__: actually, I'm not sure if the X800 is supported by open source drivers.. so you might be better off with them.
[08:14] <niekie> jinesh: one moment..
[08:14] <niekie> jinesh: http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Mako/dp/0132435942
[08:14] <jinesh> sure niekie
[08:15] <niekie> jinesh: that book is available from Amazon.
[08:15] <magicrobotmonkey> so how many people here just got their dells?
[08:15] <jinesh> not very good book
[08:15] <jinesh> i have gone thru index
[08:15] <royel> Can someone point me to, or reccomend a good gigabit ethernet card that is fully detected with Ubuntu 6.06 (LTS server)?
[08:15] <tom__> niekie: Oh? I read on google that i should be able to get a better resolution than this. Am i wasting my time though with ATI? (ive heard some real nightmare stories!)
[08:15] <jinesh> does anyone know how to open a .chm file on ubuntu
[08:15] <niekie> tom__: hehe.
[08:15] <niekie> tom__: I have ATI myself too..
[08:15] <r00723r0> well
[08:16] <niekie> tom__: had troubles with resolution too.
[08:16] <r00723r0> there was nothing like from the website in my bios
[08:16] <magicrobotmonkey> jinesh: theres a chm viewer, search in synaptic
[08:16] <r00723r0> btw, i'm running 64-bit
[08:16] <pyoro> hi again, i repeat my problem, i installed recently the ubuntu 7.10 64bits version, its the first time i use linux based os, so i practically know nothing, im having problems with ceratin wifi drivers, java, flash, etc. so i wanted to change to 32 bits version, i think it would be easyer for now, to get involved and later on install the otrher one, the thing is that when i boot the pc with the 32bit version (also with the 64) and want to ins
[08:16] <roryy> !info gnochm | jinesh
[08:16] <jinesh> thanks
[08:16] <niekie> tom__: try typing  glxinfo|grep direct" on a shell
[08:16] <ubotu> jinesh: gnochm: CHM file viewer for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 143 kB, installed size 760 kB
[08:16] <tom__> Niekie: ah right - so am i best of switching back to windows until i get a nVidia card or should i plough on?
[08:16] <keith4> royel: the dlink cards seem to work okay
[08:16] <keith4> or netgear
[08:16] <niekie> tom__: you can work fine with an ATI :)
[08:16] <Zenerek> tom your ati card is supported
[08:16] <r00723r0> greyfrog, hi
[08:17] <royel> keith4: thanks :)
[08:17] <r00723r0> there was nothing like from the website in my bios
[08:17] <belgarath_> Is it possible to get the BuddyList in Gaim to always be showed in all workspaces?
[08:17] <keith4> royel: look up the 'skge' driver
[08:17] <tom__> Niekie: Output: direct rendering: Yes
[08:17] <greyfrog> r00723r0, ack... not sure what you could do besides trying to reinstall...
[08:17] <royel> keith4: will do, thanks much
[08:17] <niekie> Zenerek: do you happen to know if an ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 is supported too?
[08:17] <keith4> royel: or the 'tg3' driver
[08:17] <niekie> tom__: hrmm..
[08:17] <niekie> tom__: direct rendering at least works..
[08:17] <roryy> belgarath_: right-click on the title bar and choose 'always on visible workspace'
[08:17] <jinesh> niekie try ubuntu hacks
[08:18] <tom__> Niekie: heh - Always a start i guess =)
[08:18] <royel> keith4: I have found it's always better to check with folks that have got something working than to go out an start on my own an end up buying 5-6 different products to find one that works well :)
[08:18] <niekie> tom__: you might be able to fix the resolution thing by doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:18] <niekie> But don't do that yet!
[08:18] <jinesh> niekie: tell me one thing how did u become so good in ubuntu
[08:18] <pyoro> hello, anyone can help me? :S
[08:18] <Zenerek> tom__: in fact i think up to x1900 type cards are supported
[08:18] <belgarath_> roryy    yes... but is there a way to get this setting permanent...
[08:18] <niekie> tom__: First make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <roryy> r00723r0: if you put /boot/grub/menu.lst and 'sudo fdisk -l' on the pastebin we can check if the settings look right
[08:18] <roryy> belgarath_: ah.  i don't know, sorry
[08:18] <tom__> niekie: sure thing - can you hang on 2 moments - il throw a backup together now
[08:18] <belgarath_> roryy ok thx anyway :)
[08:19] <niekie> Zenerek: does X in X1900 stand for XPress there?
[08:19] <lithaborn> hi, need help getting 7.04 to see my wusb54gr usb lan card. i looked thru google and i guess it should work but the card isn't showing as a net device.
[08:20] <tom__> Niekie: Ok - all done - am i good to reconfigure?
[08:20] <niekie> jinesh: lots of using it.
[08:20] <niekie> tom__: you could try..
[08:20] <niekie> tom__: hold on.
[08:20] <niekie> tom__: if something goes wrong.. boot in rescue mode.
[08:20] <tom__> Niekie: i was just about to hit enter then!!
[08:20] <tom__> Niekie: Sure thing =)
[08:20] <niekie> And put back the backup to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <AlbertoP> hi
[08:20] <niekie> tom__: do you know how to do that?
[08:21] <stylus1> Brill mag
[08:21] <tom__> Niekie: No idea - i have my laptop on standby so can google it up if anything goes wrong.
[08:21] <niekie> stylus1: hmm, your nickname sounds familiar..
[08:21] <niekie> Very familiar...
[08:21] <stylus1> I changed it to spite someone on a different channel, rofl
[08:22] <niekie> I think I recognize it from someone who (used to be) on another network, actually.
[08:22] <niekie> tom__: :)
[08:22] <niekie> tom__: after you do the reconfigure..
[08:22] <niekie> tom__: you have 2 choices..
[08:22] <tom__> Niekie: Sorry to hassle you - its asking me what driver to use - is there a guide i could use - then i can stop hassling you! :)
[08:23] <niekie> 1 = Reboot, which has a high chance of working.
[08:23] <niekie> 2 = Restart X, by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, which has a reasonable chance of working, but also will end all programs just like rebooting.
[08:23] <Zenerek> niekie: tom__: i am not sure, i have an x1650 but that is just a model name, i think you can find the drivers for the ati cards... the restricted one in synaptic if not just google it, there are plenty of sites that tell you how to install them, better yet search for the ubuntuguide site plenty of info there
[08:23] <niekie> Actually, all programs in the X Window environment, but anyway.
[08:24] <niekie> tom__: what is selected as the default?
[08:24] <niekie> E.g. what is it on now?
[08:24] <tom__> Niekie: Zenerek: Thanks!  Its selected "Vesa"?
[08:24] <niekie> tom__: hmm..
[08:24] <niekie> tom__: would you mind pasting your backed up /etc/X11/xorg.conf file somewhere?
[08:24] <dredhammer> hello0is there anyway to get totem-xine to playback real media files?
[08:24] <niekie> Or actually.. just look what driver is used there?
[08:25] <grodius> whats the command to start the beryl manager in term?
[08:25] <mythtv> does anyone know of a few to record from /dev/video0 other than to cat to a file?
[08:25] <tom__> Niekie: Sure thing - 2 moments
[08:25] <niekie> If you can't see from it.. just paste the whole file somewhere..
[08:25] <jinesh> bye ppl thank you all
[08:25] <niekie> Though *NOT* in this channel ;)
[08:25] <niekie> jinesh: bye :)
[08:25] <mythtv> does anyone know of a few to record from /dev/video0 other than to cat to a file?
[08:25] <greyfrog> grodius, beryl-manager
[08:26] <pyoro> hi, im having problems to reinstall ubuntu, could anyone help me?
[08:26] <Zenerek>  tom__: what's the prob? if you downloaded the new drivers, if i recall you have to change the a line in x11.conf to read the name of the correct driver
[08:26] <mythtv> does anyone know of a few to record from /dev/video0 other than to cat to a file?
[08:27] <tom__> Zenerek: Niekie: I have all the funky effects working - i just have a lousy resolution of 1024 x 768 - i just want to up it to 1280 x 1024 at least
[08:27] <drkns> hello
[08:27] <drkns> i just installed ubuntu 7.04
[08:28] <drkns> and have few qestions
[08:28] <niekie> tom__: I've not gotten mine higher then 1280x800, but you might have better luck.
[08:28] <tom__> Zenerek: Niekie: http://paste.biz/paste-2360.html
[08:28] <niekie> tom__: also.. already know what driver was in the original file?
[08:28] <niekie> Ah... let's see.
[08:28] <tom__> Niekie: :) Hope it means more to you than me hehe
[08:28] <r00723r0> greyfrog, will the 32-bit version be easier?
[08:28] <niekie> tom__: the ati driver was originally used.
[08:28] <niekie> Select it again.
[08:28] <drkns> i am trying to set my screen as sony lcd and i cant seem to find the option to install icon themes
[08:29] <greyfrog> r00723r0, probably... though I'm not sure about this, I've heard that 64-bit needs a bit more work
[08:29] <niekie> Also, I can see that only 1024x768 800x600 and 640x480 are set as allowed resolutions.
[08:29] <Zenerek>  tom__: tome inside x11.conf , i think that's the file name, just replace the highest resooution with the one you want....assuming that your card supports it and yes select your ati driver again
[08:29] <tom__> Niekie - any way to change that at all?
[08:29] <r00723r0> greyfrog, will it be possible in the future to convert 32-bit installations to 64-bit?
[08:29] <niekie> tom__: have you already started the reconfigure?
[08:29] <r00723r0> *near future
[08:29] <shadowhywind> does anyone have any ideas why i when i ping, i only get responses when i use an ip and not the hostname?
[08:29] <Zenerek> oh and for gods sake make a backup
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[08:30] <__mikem> !ops
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[08:30] <drkns> noone knows how to change the icons on ubuntu??
[08:30] <Panda200x> :/ dumb question, where is the login script?
[08:30] <niekie> tom__: if so, select the ATI driver..
[08:30] <Ghost_Auk> Howdy
[08:30] <tom__> Niekie: Yep Just picked the driver and now typing the cards name. Zenerek: Thanks lol =)
[08:30] <PriceChild> __mikem, ?
[08:30] <__mikem> Rprp
[08:30] <nixternal> PriceChild: bot
[08:30] <nixternal> it is gone
[08:30] <r00723r0> drkns, system->preferences->themes
[08:30] <niekie> tom__: good :)
[08:30] <nixternal> nalioth: ^^
[08:30] <TaJMoX> How do I fix gdesklets in feisty?  Harly any of them worked, but worked in Edgy.  (They give a python scrip error, a couple don't)
[08:30] <niekie> tom__: any more questions? :)
[08:31] <Seveas> hmm
[08:31] <greyfrog> r00723r0, might need to reinstall again. *but* if you partition your drive with /home, /usr, and /etc on different partition than root.. it shouldn't be as hard
[08:31] <PriceChild> ty nixternal :)
[08:31] <niekie> tom__: also, be sure to notify me if you failed or succeeded afterwards.
[08:31] <tom__> Niekie: Thats it for now - thanks again for the help!!
[08:31] <niekie> Always good to hear ;)
[08:31] <r00723r0> greyfrog, i usually want to do that but i never know how much space to give it
[08:31] <niekie> tom__: no problem.
[08:32] <greyfrog> r00723r0, let me look at my partitions quick
[08:32] <drkns> thx
[08:32] <Ghost_Auk> Where is a good place to put a LAN-shared directory?
[08:33] <drkns> how can i set up my screen resolution? it lists only 3 modes 1024 X 768 800 X 600 and smaller
[08:33] <bur[n] er> drkns: you'lll have to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to add more resolutions
[08:33] <TaJMoX> drkns : have you installed the binary driver for your card?
[08:33] <drkns> should i install ati prop drivers
[08:33] <Steve^> How can I turn off the sound that plays when the login screen appears?
[08:34] <r00723r0> drkns, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:34] <TaJMoX> drkns : have you tried fglrx?
[08:34] <bur[n] er> drkns: depends on hte ati card... what model?
[08:34] <drkns> binary driver or propriety drivers?
[08:34] <greyfrog> r00723r0, lol, looking at my setup I have too much available for each...
[08:34] <drkns> ati radeon 9800 pro
[08:34] <NoEvidenZ> Is there a default unmodified /etc/X11/xorg.conf backup? I made some changes which worked for a while, but now they don't seem to want to work.
[08:34] <bur[n] er> drkns: try the "restricted drivers manager" ?
[08:34] <drkns> i will now thx
[08:34] <bur[n] er> NoEvidenZ: you cna boot the livecd and copy it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf that gets generated
[08:34] <drkns> how well is restricted drivers with berryl??
[08:34] <NoEvidenZ> thanks.
[08:35] <Zenerek> drkns not sure if you even need the new drivers, cards kinda old
[08:35] <bur[n] er> drkns: with ati?  not so good... ati is crap :\
[08:35] <NoEvidenZ> You're a genius.
[08:35] <r00723r0> drkns, ati has bad drivers
[08:35] <NoEvidenZ> .. >.<
[08:35] <drkns> i know but no choice now
[08:35] <r00723r0> drkns, however, nvidia's great with beryl
[08:35] <bur[n] er> drkns: beryl just works with the open source radeon driver here
[08:35] <greyfrog> r00723r0, shouldn't need more than about 3GB (total) for /usr /var and most everything else...  I usually try to put /tmp and /home in separate partitions though...
[08:35] <drkns> my next machine will be linux compatible
[08:35] <r00723r0> greyfrog, why /tmp?
[08:35] <r00723r0> that's a waste
[08:35] <bur[n] er> drkns: try the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" as suggested earlier
[08:35] <TaJMoX> I wanna start coding so I can contribute to things like ati drivers and wine, what language should I learn?
[08:35] <bur[n] er> drkns: doesn't take much... just get nvidia or intel :)
[08:36] <r00723r0> TaJMoX, for those, you'll want C/C++
[08:36] <r00723r0> if you're ballsy, you'll want to learn ASM as well
[08:36] <greyfrog> r00723r0, if some process starts filling tmp, your root partition could run out of space
[08:36] <roryy> TaJMoX: for those 2, C.  I'd recommend python or similar language as a starting language, though.
[08:36] <TaJMoX> Great, I already know a little C++
[08:36] <r00723r0> greyfrog, never had that
[08:36] <mroc> need some help installing ubuntu from the live cd.   it hangs on the partitioning step.   should the hd be mounted automatically?  gparted doesn't seem to see anything.
[08:36] <r00723r0> TaJMoX, how much is a little?
[08:36] <Zenerek> drkns truth is i hear nvidia's linux support is great....i'm an ati guy myself....well mostly
[08:36] <TaJMoX> r00723r0 : Hello, World   =)
[08:36] <greyfrog> r00723r0, me either... I'd rather not run the risk though...
[08:36] <r00723r0> TaJMoX, are you familiar with object orientation and other programming constructs?
[08:37] <r00723r0> ahh, hello world :)
[08:37] <greyfrog> r00723r0, guess it's not necessary ;)
[08:37] <bur[n] er> intel support > nvidia > ati
[08:37] <tom__> Niekie: Ok - config done - Am i right in assuming i just cross my fingers and reboot?
[08:37] <r00723r0> TaJMoX, C++ is kinda hard to learn, learn python first for a good feel for programming languages in general
[08:37] <r00723r0> greyfrog, i see
[08:37] <niekie> tom__: kind of.
[08:37] <TaJMoX> I will, i've been thinking of starting python
[08:37] <niekie> Good luck..
[08:37] <niekie> And notify us how it went :)
[08:37] <r00723r0> TaJMoX, in my opinion it's the single most useful language made
[08:37] <tom__> NIekie: Thanks! :) See you in 2 minutes (hopefuly!)
[08:38] <niekie> Hehe.
[08:38] <niekie> I hope so.
[08:38] <r00723r0> greyfrog, i'm thinking about making a separate /boot
[08:38] <mroc> need some help installing ubuntu.  installation hangs on the partitioning step
[08:38] <r00723r0> and i forgot if it's possible to make one partition handling multiple folders
[08:38] <r00723r0> mroc, any more information?
[08:38] <mroc> sure
[08:39] <mroc> gparted doesn't seem to see anything.   the live cd should mount the hd automatically, right?
[08:39] <r00723r0> mroc, yes
[08:39] <Zenerek> so does anyone have any idea why after updating my dapper install yesterday, i can no longer run opera? here's a link to terminal output  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24738/
[08:39] <r00723r0> mroc, is it connected?
[08:39] <bur[n] er> mroc: even if it's not "mounted" gparted shoudl see it
[08:39] <r00723r0> mroc, does your bios recognize it?
[08:40] <mroc> the hd?   its a dell inspiron 1501.  so the hd should always be connected.   the existing windows install boots just fine
[08:40] <r00723r0> mroc, does your bios recognize it?
[08:40] <jrib> Steve^: system -> administration -> login window -> accessibility
[08:41] <TaJMoX> How do I fix gdesklets in Feisty?  Hardly any of them work, but worked in Edgy.  ("Non-ASCII character '\xc2' in file desklet.py on line 65 but no encoding declared")
[08:41] <Steve^> thanks jrib
[08:41] <bur[n] er> mroc: running gparted with sudo right?
[08:41] <tom__> Niekie: i believe i owe someone a beer? :)
[08:41] <niekie> tom__: heh :D
[08:41] <mroc> r00723r0:i can reboot and check, but if the existing windows install boots fine, the bios must be detecting the hd, right?    and yes, it won't run otherwise.
[08:41] <niekie> tom__: I don't drink, :P
[08:41] <niekie> tom__: it's 1280x1024 now? :)
[08:41] <r00723r0> mroc, odd
[08:41] <tom__> Niekie: chocolate?
[08:41] <niekie> tom__: heh =D
[08:42] <kazim59> is there some issue regarding unmounting usb hard disks? when i unmount, it immediately mounts again and shows error "Could not eject...etc"
[08:42] <mroc> r0072r0:   i thought so too.   any ideas?
[08:42] <tom__> Niekie: Sure is =) And its looking great with the "Beryl" Like effects =)
[08:42] <megatog615> hello
[08:42] <niekie> tom__: actually, you don't owe me anything :)
[08:42] <niekie> tom__: cool, glad you got Beryl working :)
[08:42] <megatog615> Has anyone gotten nvclock to work in Feisty?
[08:42] <niekie> Or you using the "Desktop Effects" that come with Ubuntu?
[08:42] <tom__> Niekie: I dont owe you? How did you work that out? lol
[08:42] <r00723r0> mroc, no :(
[08:42] <Zenerek> well this freakin blows, first time i cannot use my modem in the new kernel and now i loose my fave browser?i say again this blows
[08:42] <tom__> Niekie: Beryl itself - got the manager installed and playing with the toys now =)
[08:43] <niekie> tom__: I charged you my current hour rate.. which I don't have =P
[08:43] <mroc> r00723r0:  ok.   guess i'll ask the question again, see if someone else can help
[08:43] <PetarM> hi
[08:43] <d3bruts1d> I'm reinstalling U7.04 on a new box... trying to partition a usb disk, and it tells me "Can't have the start before the end". What's that mean?? It's a 500G disk, which I was trying to make a 300 G partition.
[08:43] <niekie> tom__: I got Beryl working once or twice too..
[08:43] <tom__> Niekie: LOL - You might want about thinking introducing one of those ;) You could make yourself a small fortune - and give yourself a interesting job title!!
[08:43] <niekie> Though it crashed a lot.
[08:44] <mroc> anyone?  need help with an ubuntu install.   the partitioner freezes and gparted doesn't seem to see the hd.    existing windows (vista) install boots just fine though.
[08:44] <niekie> tom__: certified Ubuntu professional sounds good :P
[08:44] <tom__> Niekie: I will see how it goes - if it starts to play up i shall switch back to "Desktop Effects" works just as well
[08:44] <TaJMoX> d3brusts1d : what are you using to partition?  fdisk?
[08:44] <niekie> Though I aren't... really :P
[08:44] <Panda200x> :/ dumb question, where is the login script thing?
[08:44] <marmer> ciao
[08:44] <tom__> Niekie: i was thinking more like "Certified Ubuntu Linux Professional Consultancy Expert...Person
[08:44] <d3bruts1d> TaJMoX: Just whatever the installer pops up when you go to install it
[08:45] <niekie> tom__: does that come with a cool badge and shirt?
[08:45] <marmer> una domanda per favore: cosa cambia in Gnomebaker spuntare l'opzione finalizza disco?   Grazie
[08:45] <niekie> =D
[08:45] <TaJMoX> d3brusts1d : Is there blank un-used space on the disk?
[08:45] <PetarM> i installed the ati graphic card driver. i edited the driver in xorg.conf from "fglrx" to "ati", but after a restart, xorg crashed.
[08:45] <megatog615> Anyone get nvclock to work at all?
[08:45] <carlosqueso> !it | marmer
[08:45] <TaJMoX> d3brusts1d : like not partitioned space
[08:45] <d3bruts1d> TaJMoX: Ya... brand new disk
[08:45] <ubotu> marmer: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:45] <marmer> dorry
[08:45] <kazim59> shariqchishti: hello
[08:45] <marmer> sorry
[08:45] <TaJMoX> d3bruts1d : try using gparted first
[08:45] <tom__> Niekie: Oh yeah - and a secreat members club - everyone meets in an underground cave to discuss the future of ubuntu Mwahaha
[08:45] <niekie> :O
[08:46] <allblacks> could anyone tell me a good software to share a internet connection for 2 computers
[08:46] <tom__> Guys - having some (further) problems! My bluetooth mouse and keyboard work great - but when booting up i have to dissconnect the dongle and re-connect it for it to work. Is there a way around this :)
[08:46] <Zenerek> well guys that 3 damn unfixed ubuntu probs for me, how y'all doin
[08:47] <niekie> allblacks: I'd recommend using a router.
[08:47] <carlosqueso> allblacks: I'm not sure it's possible without a router or a second nic, but they're both prety cheap
[08:47] <sn0> allblacks you already have the software required, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[08:47] <niekie> carlosqueso: or dialup and a LAN :P
[08:47] <niekie> Though nobody uses dial-up nowadays.
[08:48] <niekie> Except for backup internet ;)
[08:48] <carlosqueso> niekie: people still use that?!?
[08:48] <allblacks> i dont have money for a router and i do have 2 eth
[08:48] <niekie> allblacks: 2 ETH in 1 computer?
[08:48] <tom__> Niekie: Dont Silver surfers use Dialup - i mean they have only just got used to "Polyphonic" ring tones =/
[08:48] <kazim59> why do i have problems unmounting my USB harddrive? it becomes an icon on desktop... but when i right click -> eject... it would mount it again!
[08:48] <Zenerek> niekie: like hell we don't. getting this modem to run nearly broke me, took me at least a week
[08:48] <TaJMoX> allblacks : it's called ip masq or ip forwarding, its not a program but a feature built into linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[08:48] <niekie> Zenerek: haha.
[08:49] <niekie> I used GPRS for internet once.
[08:49] <niekie> Over Bluetooth.
[08:49] <niekie> From my phone.
[08:49] <tom__> GPRS? - i bet that was stable!
[08:49] <allblacks> yes on one PC i have 2 eth
[08:49] <niekie> It worked quite okay.
[08:49] <niekie> Though caused lots of data usage =(
[08:49] <tom__> What was your bank account like at the end of the month?
[08:49] <niekie> tom__: it's not *MY* bank account >:)
[08:50] <Zenerek> niekie: yeah it sounds funny but consider it was my first jump into linux and that i roughed it and never asked anyone for help, but in the end i won
[08:50] <kazim59> niekie: gprs with bluetooth.. what did u use? pppd for dialing which device?
[08:50] <tom__> Niekie: LOL
[08:50] <mroc> still looking for some help:   partitioning step hangs on install;  gparted doesn't see anything, existing xp install boots just fine
[08:50] <niekie> kazim59: actually, I used some kind of howto.
[08:50] <allblacks> i have one the computer with 2 eth Ubuntu and on the other one XP and i want to share the internet through Ubuntu
[08:50] <miles_> Okay, now for a dumb and random question: how much would a 21" Touch Screen be?
[08:50] <miles_> cost *
[08:51] <kazim59> niekie: oh good...
[08:51] <Zenerek> i'll tell you guys, for the newbie getting a modem to run is hell
[08:51] <niekie> kazim59: so I have no idea actually how I did it.
[08:51] <Pici> miles_: Try asking in ##hardware
[08:51] <TaJMoX> How do I fix gdesklets in Feisty?  Hardly any of them work, but worked in Edgy.  ("Non-ASCII character '\xc2' in file desklet.py on line 65 but no encoding declared")
[08:51] <twomonkies> Why do my new computer get black screen when i try to install ubuntu?
[08:51] <tom__> Zenerek: A Dialup modem or a ADSL One? 0.o
[08:52] <kazim59> niekie: that happens most of the time with me too.. lol
[08:52] <niekie> I remember I once set up dial-up networking between 2 PCs..
[08:52] <TaJMoX> twomonkies : it did that for me too but I waited like 4 minutes and something happened.   Turns out the VESA driver didn't work with my vid card and I had to install using the alternate installer
[08:52] <niekie> As the network cable wasn't long enough between them.
[08:52] <niekie> And we have this internal phone system.
[08:52] <Zenerek>  tom__: don't wory tome i gont this winmodem running, in fact it was the first thing i did in linuc, perhaps the hardest to date
[08:52] <niekie> So we could just let it call the PC # and transfer a file.
[08:52] <carlosqueso> TaJMoX: you might have better luck posting in the forums, as no one here seems to know the answer
[08:52] <kazim59> niekie: once you were a genius!
[08:53] <kazim59> niekie: just kidding... :)
[08:53] <tom__> Zenerek - heh Modems - never thought i would hear that word again
[08:53] <tom__> Am i the only sad chap that misses the old dialup noise *mimics*
[08:53] <Jowi> !dialup
[08:53] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[08:53] <niekie> kazim59: that was with Windows XP, which I used to have a lot of experience with.
[08:53] <TaJMoX> allblacks did you try that link i sent you?   thats how I got my internet between 2 ethernet ubuntu boxes
[08:53] <niekie> Can't say I miss it :P
[08:53] <tom__> ....just me then =(
[08:54] <axisys> is there a mib browser available that i can run on ubunut w/o using wine?
[08:54] <Jowi> allblacks, firestarter's got a connection sharing option.
[08:54] <kazim59> tom__: i miss that too.. beep beep shuu shaa
[08:54] <Jowi> !firestarter | allblacks
[08:54] <ubotu> allblacks: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:54] <tom__> Im not the only one \o/ heh
[08:55] <twomonkies> do anyone got time to answer some installation-questions?
[08:55] <davey_> how can I force resolution
[08:55] <greyfrog> !ask | twomonkies
[08:55] <Zenerek>  tom__: yeah i can't wait to drop these freakin modems, anyway my real prob is i got another system with a tx2000 raid card and i can't get gparted to see the raid0 array, it see two drives instead
[08:55] <ubotu> twomonkies: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:55] <tom__> twomonkie: Im new to ubuntu too but just installed it - but ask away!!
[08:55] <marmer> ubotu,  what in gnomebaker finalize disk mean? please
[08:55] <davey_> I don't have a monitor pluged in so it won't let me change resolution
[08:56] <tom__> Zenerek - Sometimes i wish linux was a little more - Adaptable to hardware =(
[08:56] <niekie> Woah..
[08:56] <niekie> 1111 people in the channel :o
[08:56] <ompaul> !ubotu | marmer
[08:56] <niekie> This must be a sign.
[08:56] <ubotu> marmer: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:56] <niekie> Aww.. not anymore.
[08:56] <carlosqueso> marmer: it's doing final operations to make the disk readable
[08:56] <gneale> who can tell how to get my 'ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF' into the 1024x768 mode?
[08:56] <TaJMoX> axisys mbrowse
[08:56] <davey_> gneale, you probibly have the wrong drivers
[08:57] <gneale> davey_: I have ATI
[08:57] <twomonkies> When i boot the disc i get the meny, when i want to start ubuntu and install i get black screen and the lamps on my keyboard are flashing... anyone have an idea whats wrong?
[08:57] <pyoro> hi all!!! im having problemas with the installation of ubuntu. the screen freezes and wont cotinue. :(
[08:57] <Zenerek>  tom__: well in the begining i could have installed easyubuntu but i decided the challenge was worth it, and it was i learned from the hardships
[08:57] <ompaul> !bootoptions | pyoro
[08:57] <ubotu> pyoro: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[08:57] <tannerld> how can I get this (http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-gmail-as-default-mail-client-in-ubuntu/) to work in preferred apps?
[08:57] <MKS> E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:57] <tom__> Zenerek - i have tried most distros - feddora, black box, open suse, sled, etc
[08:58] <sanotehu> Are there any programs for Ubuntu that can change Windows drive letters?
[08:58] <tom__> Zenerek - but in my opinion - Ubuntu has the better user base!! Mush more friendlier and more helpful
[08:58] <oxigen> hi, can i search for a phrase in man pages & how?
[08:58] <ompaul> sanotehu, windows chooses drive letters based on their position in the machine so it is a physical not logical thing
[08:58] <carlosqueso> oxigen: apropros <search term>
[08:58] <gneale> who can tell me what the right driver is for 'ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF' to get into the 1024x768 mode? I am using ati curently on feisty.
[08:59] <sanotehu> ompaul, I used Partition Manager to change drive letters and borked my XP install, trying to fix it without wiping my hard drive
[08:59] <marmer> carlosqueso, I just did a disk without 'finalize, in can read it on my pc
[08:59] <oxigen> carlosqueso: apropos doesn't find all :|
[08:59] <Zenerek>  tom__: i aslo have damn small linux, got some damn probs most annoying is that i have installed opera and can't see any fonts
[08:59] <sanotehu> Partition Magic
[08:59] <tom__> gneale: Niekie: There is a command that re-configures the xserv - run it and then select the modes you want. I just did and it works fine.
[08:59] <carlosqueso> marmer: yeah, but older ones won't be able too
[08:59] <delf> hi
[08:59] <ompaul> sanotehu, you need to work with partition magic it is nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:59] <marmer> carlosqueso,  thak's a lot
[08:59] <delf> why can i run and update?
[08:59] <niekie> tom__: I know, I gave it to you :P
[08:59] <delf> it says GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:00] <guest234> hey, when partitioning... if I have 2 HDs... is it better to have home or swap on a seperate disk... or both?
[09:00] <sanotehu> ompaul, is there a chatroom for partition magic?
[09:00] <tom__> Niekie: Gneale - if you ask Niekie nicely - the sacred words might be wispered - but only if you cough up the $200 membership fee (you get a cool shirt and stuff =D
[09:00] <carlosqueso> oxigen: it searches through the descriptions, if you want to search all pages, I've no clue
[09:00] <TaJMoX> tannerld : under Mail Reader, select custom and put 'firefox http://www.gmail.com'
[09:00] <niekie> Hahaha.
[09:00] <ompaul> sanotehu, I would doubt it as it is not a free software / open source project
[09:00] <tannerld> TaJMoX: that doesn't put the email in the send msg page or even put there
[09:00] <TaJMoX> guest234 : better to have swap near your / partition
[09:01] <gneale> do you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[09:01] <tom__> Thats the one (i think)
[09:01] <niekie> gneale: you could try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[09:01] <delf> it says GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[09:01] <tom__> towards the end it should prompt you for the modes you want enabled - select them and reboot
[09:01] <oxigen> carlosqueso: on example, how can i find in man gcc word sse3?
[09:01] <niekie> gneale: or try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:01] <TaJMoX> tannerld : did you do what the guide said and make a shell script?   you'll have to give it execute permissions as well
[09:01] <tom__> if your lucky (i recommend crossing your fingers at this point) all should be ok
[09:01] <niekie> To reconfigure the X server.
[09:01] <gneale> niekie: but xorg.conf already has 1024x768 and we can only use up to 800x600
[09:01] <guest234> TaJMoX: "So if you have a spare drive in your machine -- no matter how big it is -- set it up to hold the /home partition or the swap space. Almost any machine will be able to access those two drives in less time than one drive holding it all." so that statement is false?
[09:02] <niekie> gneale: odd..
[09:02] <tannerld> TaJMoX: yeah  I can get it to execute, but it isn't passing the "mailto:asdf@asdf.com" string
[09:02] <niekie> gneale: oh, by the way, if you mess with the files, back up :)
[09:02] <niekie> gneale: also, you might be using the wrong drivers which can't handle that resolution.
[09:02] <megatog615> Has anyone gotten nvclock to work?
[09:02] <twomonkies> When i boot the disc i get the meny, when i want to start ubuntu and install i get black screen and the lamps on my keyboard are flashing... anyone have an idea whats wrong?
[09:02] <delf> why do i get this message --> GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>   when i try to update
[09:03] <TaJMoX> guest234 : it's faster if your / and swap are on the same drive.   /home can be on the second drive.    / and swap get accessed more often in most cases
[09:03] <carlosqueso> oxigen: you could always pipe it to grep with man gcc | grep sse3
[09:03] <marmer> is ther any ubuntu chat  room?
[09:03] <tom__> Zenerek: Whats up with firefox? I used opera in the past but prefered Firefox tbh
[09:03] <niekie> marmer: yes, you are in one...
[09:03] <carlosqueso> oxigen: to see other lines, you can use the -A <number of lines after> and -B <number of lines before>
[09:03] <oxigen> carlosqueso: ah, cool, thank you! :) good pipes!
[09:03] <greyfrog> marmer, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:03] <guest234> TaJMoX: but if / and swap are on different hard drives they can be accessed at the same time... wouldn't that be faster than having them close on the same disk?
[09:04] <igglybuff> hi there
[09:04] <niekie> Ah, that kind of "chat".
[09:05] <carlosqueso> star trek to seinfeld and back again
[09:05] <marmer> greyfrog, thank's
[09:05] <igglybuff> how i can change tilda's colors?
[09:05] <TaJMoX> tannerld : looking at the comments, some people needed to use the line with full quotes " instead of '               firefox "https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=`echo $1 | sed "s/mailto://"`"
[09:06] <kazim59> there was a room of ubuntu for silly things.. .what's its called?
[09:06] <Zenerek> tom__: nothing against firefox, but opera is damn powerfull damn fast and you don't have to download a gangload of extentions to do what opera does out of the box, of course it's better for those just wana leave ie and have more security and much better features
[09:06] <TaJMoX> tannerld : running in your mail app terminal will display errors
[09:06] <carlosqueso> kazim59: #ubuntu-offtopic?
[09:06] <greyfrog> kazim59, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:06] <kazim59> ya thanks
[09:06] <tom__> Zenerek: True - it used to be a little bloated last time i used it (a few years back) is it worth giving it another whirl?
[09:06] <igglybuff> anybody?
[09:07] <greyfrog> igglybuff, tilda?
[09:07] <TaJMoX> igglybuff : in terminal?
[09:07] <igglybuff> yea, terminal emulator for gnome
[09:07] <igglybuff> like yakuake
[09:07] <igglybuff> yep
[09:07] <TaJMoX> igglybuff : edit your .bashrc
[09:07] <igglybuff> eh?
[09:07] <pyoro> hi! please help im driving crazy here.
[09:08] <TaJMoX> just uncomment the color prompts PS2 thingy
[09:08] <igglybuff> what i put there
[09:08] <kitsuneofdoom> I'm trying a reinstall with the alt-install disk. I have lvm. When I use it, it hangs on vgchange -ay, and earlier I got it to work by doing it manually, but it's complaining about the device mapper not being installed.
[09:08] <yohanes_chin> I just buy dvd repositories for feisty, 4 dvd total about 30gb, could someone give me suggestion how to install the package individually? for example I want to install game SuperTux
[09:08] <TaJMoX> igglybuff: there is a comment there telling u how to make it colored
[09:08] <greyfrog> pyoro, hit the brakes!!!
[09:08] <Zenerek> tom__:i started using it in v7 it was more than bloated, more like damn comlicated, but i love it even more for than reason, the newer version have been had the gui streamlined while still adding more features
[09:08] <igglybuff> TaJMoX: i use colors for coding etc
[09:08] <delf> why do i get this message --> GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>   when i try to update
[09:08] <pyoro> i want to pass to 32 bits ubuntu and it freezes the screen when loading the instalation
[09:08] <Zenerek> frekin typos
[09:08] <tom__> Zenerek - might give it another shot then - got any other cool apps i should try out?
[09:08] <pyoro> i already have 64 bits installed
[09:08] <kitsuneofdoom> pyoro: what kind of install?
[09:09] <TaJMoX> igglybuff : sorry I thought you wanted the bash prompt to be colored =] 
[09:09] <kbrooks> I'd like to setup a channel on Freenode relating to deaf people. What would I name it, and how would I advertise it?
[09:09] <igglybuff> no, i wanna change tilda's colors
[09:09] <pyoro> with safe graphics mode and the normal
[09:09] <igglybuff> they are ugly
[09:09] <TaJMoX> #deaf
[09:09] <greyfrog> kbrooks, /join #your_channel_name_here to create it
[09:09] <kitsuneofdoom> pyoro: how are you installing it?
[09:09] <kbrooks> greyfrog, i know. but do you have any name ideas?
[09:09] <TaJMoX> topic: TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS OK
[09:10] <MarLaw> hello all
[09:10] <Zenerek> tom__: you might wana get wine, allows you to run windows apps in linux,be aware it has it's limits, then you want to get firestarer (firewall)
[09:10] <greyfrog> kbrooks, none sorry :(
[09:10] <MarLaw> I've installed hamachi on my ubuntu server, which file should i touch to make the deamon (hamachi start) be called at lunch ? Text run level
[09:10] <tom__> Zenerek: Yeah i tried Wine when i used to be on Fedora- but it broke and i have had nightmares ever since =(
[09:10] <kitsuneofdoom> kbrooks: TaJMoX was right, KiSS. #deaf works.
[09:10] <Ghost_Auk> kbrooks:  verbal-sign ?  :-)
[09:11] <pyoro> kitsuneofdoom: booting the livecd
[09:11] <kbrooks> Ghost_Auk, haha no :-)
[09:11] <kbrooks> Ghost_Auk, its ##deaf
[09:11] <Ghost_Auk> ok
[09:11] <kitsuneofdoom> pyoro: are you doing anything unusual?
[09:11] <kbrooks> (sorry to spam, all)
[09:11] <Zenerek> tom__:wine works just fine, i run winrar,utorrent, i even ran winamp...but there were probs
[09:12] <pyoro> kitsuneofdoom: the same steps i made to install the 64 bits version and it worked just fine
[09:12] <kitsuneofdoom> pyoro: where does it freeze?
[09:12] <pyoro> kitsuneofdoom: but now it doesnt :S
[09:12] <shadowhywind> anyone have any ideas why i can ping ubuntu with its ip but not with its hostname?
[09:12] <tom__> Zenerek: Awesome - i will give that another try too. Im just about to embark on installing MySQL!
[09:12] <kitsuneofdoom> shadowhywind: DNS error?
[09:12] <b0llan2> Hi #ubuntu, I need to burn ~60 GB data to dvd:s, what's a good way to compress and package it to 4 GB files before burning it?
[09:13] <shadowhywind> how can i check for a dns error?
[09:13] <Madsy> shadowhywind: Perhaps the DNS has to be updated after a changed IP-adress?
[09:13] <rickroll> SPIDER EXPERT
[09:13] <keev> RAR break it up
[09:13] <pyoro> kitsuneofdoom: when the desktop should appear, only the mouse shows
[09:13] <greyfrog> shadowhywind, do google work?
[09:13] <Madsy> b0llan2: gzip2? :-)
[09:13] <b0llan2> keev: rar doesn't seem to be able to handle 4 GB files
[09:13] <kazim59> anybody any idea of Google's Lockdown in sector 6?
[09:13] <greyfrog> shadowhywind, ping google.com?
[09:13] <shadowhywind> pinging google works
[09:13] <rickroll> guys, someone deleted my system32 folder! what do i do!
[09:13] <Zenerek> tom__: phew is all i can say, never ever touched it, worried about hard that's going to be, currently reading two ubuntu books and have many little notes docs about ubuntu
[09:13] <b0llan2> Madsy, gzip2 can both compress & split to files?
[09:14] <cables> !offtopic | rickroll
[09:14] <ubotu> rickroll: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:14] <TaJMoX> rickroll : re-install ... how else do you fix things in windows?
[09:14] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: you can use split. It's pretty simple. It just splits the file.
[09:14] <Madsy> Oh. Splitting. I don't know if gzip can do archiving.
[09:14] <greyfrog> shadowhywind, you trying to ping ubuntu.com or www.ubuntu.com?
[09:14] <mattis___> anyone that can tell me which package I can find keyboard layouts?
[09:14] <tom__> Zenerek: I just fired up a guide on google and giving it a shot - what books have you got? Are they any good?
[09:14] <rickroll> WWW.7CHAN.ORG
[09:14] <phantom_>  I forgot the packagename because I instaled beryl . when I login with xgl i get strange grafic. Can someboddy  help me ???
[09:14] <TaJMoX> oh my
[09:14] <rickroll> WWW.7CHAN.ORG
[09:14] <cables> rickroll: quit it
[09:14] <shadowhywind> gregfrog pinging works fine
[09:14] <rickroll> THATS WHERE THE RAIDS ARE FROM
[09:14] <Ghost_Auk> rickroll:  .. there is a linux  'undelete' command
[09:14] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: or, if the 60G of data is many multiple files, you should look up dar. I like dar.
[09:14] <cables> !ops | rickroll is spamming
[09:14] <ubotu> rickroll is spamming: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[09:14] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: unfortunately I'll need to unsplit it on a windows xp computer
[09:15] <greyfrog> shadowhywind, nm, just saw that
[09:15] <rickroll> im not kidding
[09:15] <ninix> Hi, anyone here have a Dell Laptop with an ATI? Im searching how enable/disable the CRT Output clone (FN + F8) for demonstration
[09:15] <gr33npho3nix> Ghost_Auk: how did you delete it? from the terminal
[09:15] <MKS> I screwed up: Can anyone help? Here is the error msg. Could not initialize the package information
[09:15] <MKS> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[09:15] <MKS> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[09:15] <MKS> 'E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'
[09:15] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: if the XP computer has cygwin, that would be easy. Also, if you use dar, there's a windows version.
[09:15] <Spec> heya...i have a difficult problem
[09:16] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: wish there was cygwin ..  by dar, do you mean rar?
[09:16] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: What kind of data is this 60GB, one big file? many big files? many many small files?
[09:16] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: it's a directory structure with mp3s, pictures etc
[09:16] <Pirate_Hunter> hi, my slave HD which used to be accessible is now locked and I cna't give it a path even knowing I have formated it again as EXT3. On top of that the folder which were the old path for my slave HD is now locked and I havent got permission to move the items there. What can I do to sort this problem out??
[09:16] <phantom_>  I forgot the packagename that corects my problem . I instaled beryl . when I login with xgl i get strange grafic. Can someboddy  help me ???
[09:16] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: I'd suggest dar. And I do not mean RAR. I mean dar.
[09:16] <cables> b0llan2: At that point, I'd just go out and buy an external HD.
[09:16] <pyoro> kitsuneofdoom: do yo have any idea what is my problem? sorry for disturbing :S
[09:16] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: apt-get install dar
[09:16] <tom__> Anyone recommend a good GUI for MySQL?
[09:17] <kitsuneofdoom> pyoro: no idea.
[09:17] <igglybuff> argh, that's driving me crazy
[09:17] <Ghost_Auk> does not make  any difference where it was 'deleted' from,   you can also use a wildcard
[09:17] <Zenerek> tom__: well i got the oficial ubuntu book and ubuntu unleased, both are about dapper drake(ubuntu 6.06) which is what i am running here, unleased seems more advanced though in fact it says so in the user abilities part on the book cover
[09:17] <keck0f> hi.
[09:17] <TaJMoX> ninix : have you tried xinerama
[09:17] <Spec> My resolution will only work at 800x600, and I've got a 'intel corporation 82830 GCG', using the xserver-xorg-*-intel driver the screen is black and slowly fades out white. If I use the 'i810' driver, I can only get low resolutions. 915resolution doesn't support my chipset (i830m according to the intel driver's logs, but that doesnt' work)
[09:17] <igglybuff> what would be yakuake for gnome, NOT tilda
[09:17] <b0llan2> cables, myself I transfer it with scp or something,  but neither is an option in this case :)
[09:17] <Spec> tom__: the one on the mysql site
[09:17] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: Uh...sudo that.
[09:17] <royel> tom__: phpmyadmin possibly will work for you
[09:17] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: ok I'll look up dar, thanks for the suggestion
[09:17] <cables> igglybuff: tilda is the only one.
[09:17] <Zenerek> tom__: oops i mean the book called ubuntu unleashed
[09:17] <keck0f> how can i find out in what package a certain file is? e.g. in what package is binary "lpq"?
[09:17] <tom__> Spec: Thanks - I will head on over and give it a shot
[09:17] <gr33npho3nix> Ghost_Auk: it does, terminal is done for , if you do it gnome then it goes to a trash
[09:18] <Pirate_Hunter>  hi, my slave HD which used to be accessible is now locked and I cna't give it a path even knowing I have formated it again as EXT3. On top of that the folder which were the old path for my slave HD is now locked and I havent got permission to move the items there. What can I do to sort this problem out??
[09:18] <MKS> HELP! All my 'update' programs are failing now.  Any suggestions?!?!
[09:18] <MKS> Error message is:
[09:18] <MKS> Could not initialize the package information
[09:18] <MKS> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[09:18] <MKS> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[09:18] <MKS> 'E:The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.'
[09:18] <cables> !paste | MKS
[09:18] <Spec> Anyways, my problem isn't seen on DSL when I boot up...it can work with 1024x768 @ 32-bits
[09:18] <ubotu> MKS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:18] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: dar has compression (gzip and bzip2) and can be instructed to make slices of any size. You could back up 60G on 60,000 flopies if you wanted to.
[09:18] <phantom_>  I forgot the packagename that corects my problem . I instaled beryl . when I login with xgl i get strange grafic. Can someboddy  help me ???
[09:18] <phantomd1ta> kitsuneofdoom: What a terrible thought...
[09:19] <Spec> However, DSL uses Xfree86's 'Xvesa' program to start the xserver, and i couldn't tell which driver it uses....but I wanted to install xfree86 instead of xorg onto ubuntu to see if that'll work
[09:19] <Spec> What's the bes way to do such a thing? :)
[09:19] <cables> !repeat | phantom
[09:19] <ubotu> phantom: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:19] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: seems like a standard feature but for some reason I couldn't get arj and rar to make files as big as 4 GB, but now dar is installed :)
[09:19] <greyfrog> !find lpq | keck0f
[09:19] <ubotu> keck0f: File lpq found in cupsys-bsd, gtklp, lpr, lprfax, lprng (and 1 others)
[09:19] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: the only problem I had was burning 2+G files
[09:19] <MKS> ubotu, and cables: the error is from the local, no link. Am I pasting it wrong?
[09:19] <kitsuneofdoom> b0llan2: so I made 1G slices, and burned 4 to a disk, along with some par2 data.
[09:20] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: oops ok, maybe I'll go for many smaller files then
[09:20] <greyfrog> !ubotu | MKS
[09:20] <pyoro> is there a way of formating the disk by console or something like that?
[09:20] <ubotu> MKS: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:20] <b0llan2> kitsuneofdoom: ok :)
[09:20] <cables> !paste | MKS, just paste to this site here and tell us the link
[09:20] <ubotu> MKS, just paste to this site here and tell us the link: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Can some help me with my new HD problem because I'm clueless how it could have happened since it was working 2hours ago. I boot up again and the problem is there
[09:20] <colbert> how can I list the mounted drives I have in shell
[09:20] <gr33npho3nix> MKS: you paste it into the pastebot and then use the link pastebot gives you in here
[09:20] <firefly2442> sorta OT but... is bellman-ford algorithm used still for shortest path network routing?
[09:20] <carlosqueso> colbert: df
[09:20] <carlosqueso> colbert: df -h to see readable space
[09:20] <kitsuneofdoom> what is the na,e of the device mapper module?
[09:21] <MKS> ooohhhh ok, will try
[09:21] <cables> gr33npho3nix: pastebin, not pastebot :)
[09:21] <Ghost_Auk> firefly2442:  .. today, it has become  bellman-ford-homeland-security  path  :-(
[09:22] <phixxor> help! "FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found"
[09:22] <shadowhywind> lol! i just fixed my hostname issue... i installed samba...
[09:22] <rabiddachshund> arg. I'm trying to dual boot vista and feisty, but feisty isn't booting from disk anymore
[09:23] <Pirate_Hunter> hmm seirously please im begging here, its time for me to get back to work and I need to be able to mount those partitions otherwise tomorrow I'm screwed
[09:23] <greyfrog> !ndiswrapper | phixxor
[09:23] <ubotu> phixxor: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:23] <Phewl> how do i mount an extended partition when it says to specify the type?
[09:23] <phixxor> greyfrog - sorry, that site is unreadable, i've already been there
[09:23] <akahige> hosed myself by playing with gparted. now, I can't boot into feisty. getting a grub error 17. looking around on the ubuntu forums but not seeing clear solutions
[09:23] <UNDERsoN> Somebody Help Me I can't connect to repository now. Enter in synaptic winbindd is there a single package not a part of samba
[09:23] <cables> !grub | akahige, this should tell you how to restore grub
[09:24] <phixxor> I seem to have somehow lost my ndiswrapper module! how can I get it back?
[09:24] <ubotu> akahige, this should tell you how to restore grub: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:24] <keck0f> greyfrog: i'd like to search in all Packages available via apt-get. how could i do taht on the commandline?
[09:24] <Pirate_Hunter>  hi, my slave HD which used to be accessible is now locked and I cna't give it a path even knowing I have formated it again as EXT3. On top of that the folder which were the old path for my slave HD is now locked and I havent got permission to move the items there. What can I do to sort this problem out??
[09:24] <cables> keck0f: apt-cache search bla
[09:24] <Phewl> keck0f, apt-cache search
[09:25] <phixxor> Pirate_Hunter: what does gparted say?
[09:25] <greyfrog> keck0f, apt-cache search ??? will search the package name and description for ???... not sure how to search for filenames
[09:25] <keck0f> cables, Phewl: search for filename of the packagecontent instead of package name/desc.
[09:25] <cables> keck0f: that I don't know.
[09:25] <greyfrog> keck0f, could try looking a bit more into man apt-cache
[09:25] <keck0f> apt-file search ...? but how?
[09:25] <cables> keck0f: try man apt-cache, it should have somethincg
[09:25] <KaiHanari> im soon going to be buying a USB wifi device for my laptop, as the wifi device it has is nonexistant, and it has a modded usb interface and some empty space i plan on putting this new device into... whats a good (and not expensive) usb wifi device fully compatable (WPA even) in linux?
[09:25] <UNDERsoN> Help me. Enter in the searh string winbind. No I can't connect to repositories
[09:25] <kitsuneofdoom> what is with the alt-install disk? I can't load my LVM lvs! vgchange -ay hangs!
[09:26] <phantom_>  I forgot the packagename that corects my problem . I instaled beryl . when I login with xgl i get strange grafic. Can someboddy  help me ???
[09:26] <keck0f> thank you very much.
[09:26] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: what permissions do you have on the that mount folder?
[09:26] <Phewl> keck0f, apt-cache search
 gparted??? i havent used gparted any more but I have formated it again to EXT 3 from ubunu
[09:26] <Phewl> ah
[09:26] <cables> !effects | phantom_
[09:26] <ubotu> phantom_: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[09:26] <Phewl> didn't mean to type that
[09:26] <Phewl> how do i mount an extended partition when it says to specify the type?
[09:26] <MKS> AGGHH!!! I tried the past url, it says i'm spamming and hates me! lol
[09:26] <maria> hello
[09:26] <cables> MKS: try http://pastebin.ca then
 i ahvent got any more permissions t wont allow me to mount it by giving it a path
[09:27] <MrKeuner> hi, I have a netgear ma311 pci wireless card. Which ubuntu recognizes as prism 2.5 wavelan chipset. In the device manager it shows info.linux.driver as prism2_pci. However when I load this module(with success) I cannot get a eth1 or ath0 or whatever. What else do I have to do?
[09:27] <maria> how can I changed my ubuntu from English to Spanish without format the HD ?
[09:27] <xtknight> maria, uh did you check the language preferences?
[09:27] <cables> maria: System>Administration>Languages or something like that
[09:27] <varka> hi, is there any native HDR application for linux?
[09:27] <rabiddachshund> Does anyone have any idea why my Feisty install disk only booted once?
[09:27] <xtknight> varka, hdr as in high dynamic range imaging?
[09:27] <sfw3fd> dddd
[09:27] <varka> xtknight: yes
 And the mounted folder which was for the HD says im not the owner so I can't edit or move anything
[09:27] <phixxor> hi
[09:27] <xtknight> varka, hm i think the creators of HDR have a tar.gz source package of some source for that stuff.  dont know.  what /precisely/ do you want to accomplish with regards to `hdr'?
[09:28] <skyfalcon866> when is gusty gibbon coming out
[09:28] <UNDERsoN> HELP me Open synaptic enter winbind what it find I should know name of the package
[09:28] <xtknight> !gutsy | skyfalcon866
[09:28] <ubotu> skyfalcon866: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[09:28] <Phewl> !mount
[09:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:28] <cables> !repeat | UNDERsoN
[09:28] <ubotu> UNDERsoN: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:28] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: you need to change the permissions and the ownership and groups ownership of that folder
[09:28] <MKS> cables: thanks I"m working on that now
[09:28] <Phewl> !diskmounter
[09:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:28] <greyfrog> skyfalcon866, probably in october... could check #ubuntu+1 though
[09:28] <skyfalcon866> o its gutsy i though it was gusty
[09:28] <xtknight> gutsy like..big guts
[09:29] <Spec> xtknight: I got the big guts.
[09:29] <Phewl> !gparted
[09:29] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[09:29] <firefly2442> Has anyone else had issues booting with the latest kernel for Feisty?
[09:29] <xtknight> not like big gusts ;P
[09:29] <UNDERsoN> cables is it so hard enter search parametr?
[09:29] <rabiddachshund> me
[09:29] <varka> xtknight: some automated processing of 3 or more images with synchronizing marks to put by the user
[09:29] <xtknight> firefly2442, latest official kernel for feisty?  2.6.20-x branch?
[09:29] <allblacks> could you give me again the link on how to share an internet connection
 Ive tried that I can't do it, it tells me I'm not the owner, even if i can't get the HD to work I need the data on those folders, i need to be able to modify them and move them
[09:29] <MrKeuner> hi, I have a netgear ma311 pci wireless card. Which ubuntu recognizes as prism 2.5 wavelan chipset. In the device manager it shows info.linux.driver as prism2_pci. However when I load this module(with success) I cannot get a eth1 or ath0 or whatever. it looks like I get a wlan but i do not see any MAC id when I check ifconfig wlan0
[09:29] <firefly2442> xtknight: yes
[09:29] <cables> UNDERsoN: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <Phewl> !diskmounter
[09:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[09:29] <Phewl> !fuse
[09:29] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:29] <greyfrog> Phewl, open a query with ubotu to ask so many questions
[09:29] <xtknight> varka, ah that would be a job for photoshop probably.  i dont know of any comparable linux prog to do that really.  best ones are unquestionably windows-based
[09:29] <phixxor> hello
[09:30] <MrKeuner> help
[09:30] <ompaul> !msg the bot
[09:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:30] <phixxor> im cool
[09:30] <MrKeuner> !help
[09:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:30] <xtknight> varka, photoshop runs on wine, and it runs quite well.  i think hdr under photoshop should work under wine too
[09:30] <varka> xtknight: sad :(
[09:30] <xtknight> varka, just because i dont know of any doesn't mean they dont exist
[09:30] <xtknight> it could just mean im stupid
[09:30] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: you need to use the terminal, you need to use chown for ownership and chmod to change the read write execute permissions
[09:30] <xtknight> firefly2442, i haven't had issues booting, check launchpad and the forums for bug reports?
[09:30] <varka> xtknight: i went to pixel instead of running photoshop and only need that particular function in addition to it
[09:31] <xtknight> varka, uh pixel as in pixel32? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pixel32+hdr&btnG=Google+Search
[09:31] <xtknight> ... Haiku News ~ #01056 ~ Pixel32 Announces Full HDR Support....
[09:31] <rabiddachshund> I'm having a problem booting too. It worked perfectly once, but now it just goes straight to windows.
[09:31] <firefly2442> xtknight: yeah, there's a forum post about it, guess I'll just wait for the next kernel update
[09:31] <xtknight> firefly2442, or you can bake your own kernel
[09:31] <xtknight> 2.6.21.4 is the latest
[09:31] <xtknight> apply con kolivas' patches too he has some cool patches ;)
[09:32] <mogreen> ratpoison: lol why use rat in ubuntu :p
[09:32] <firefly2442> xtknight: sounds dangerous ;)
[09:32] <xtknight> firefly2442, hardly
[09:32] <phantom_> ad remove  from applications package name please.
[09:32] <varka> xtknight: huh? oh, well, perhaps i dont know my pixel enough so far, i have it for about 4 days now ^^, ill have  a look, thx for the hint :)
[09:32] <xtknight> firefly2442, probably less dangerous than letting those bugs in the current kernel infest you rsystem
 you make it sound as if I knwo how to do that, <jrib> did that for me I ddin't knwo what I was doing, i was just following his instructions. Sadly I don't know what they were didn't think i would need it again
[09:32] <xtknight> firefly2442, why dont you give it a try?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[09:32] <ubuntuVNC> hey guys, has anyone in her successfully vnc'd or samba'd a vista computer client to an ubuntu server?
[09:32] <ubuntuVNC> im at the end of myself
[09:32] <greyfrog> mogreen, yeah, especially when there's larswm ;P
[09:33] <firefly2442> xtknight: ahh thanks :)
[09:33] <cables> ubuntuVNC: vnc and samba are two completely different things
[09:33] <mogreen> greyfrog: hahaha
[09:33] <cables> ubuntuVNC: are you trying to connect via VNC over the internet, or on your local network?
[09:33] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: alright man i'm gonna help you out, first off do you have a root password?
[09:33] <kazim59> cables: he means connectivity
[09:33] <xtknight> firefly2442, ive done that so many times based on that thread's instructions, works 100% every time.  it adds a kernel, it does not replace your current.  you always have the choice of booting using the old kernel should the new one fail for any weird reasons
[09:33] <ubuntuVNC> cables: neither will work for me
[09:33] <ubuntuVNC> starting locally
[09:33] <Zenerek> and don't post it here
[09:33] <ubuntuVNC> same log/pass
[09:33] <phixxor> how come I have to compile ndiswrapper?
[09:33] <cables> Zenerek: please don't have him set up a root password.
[09:33] <ubuntuVNC> have done the secpol.msc
[09:33] <ubuntuVNC> fix
[09:33] <ubuntuVNC> opened firewalls
 yes I do
[09:33] <cables> !enter | ubuntuVNC
[09:33] <ubotu> ubuntuVNC: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:34] <phantom_> ad remove  from applications package name please.
 Isn't there a way you could help me somewhere i.e. on an empty channelquite
[09:34] <cables> Pirate_Hunter: just PM him
[09:35] <isidoro> !joost
[09:35] <cables> Pirate_Hunter: actually don't
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joost - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <rabiddachshund> are there any less-popluated/equally talented support channels open for ubuntu?
[09:35] <cables> !msgthebot | isidoro
[09:35] <ubotu> isidoro: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:35] <Pirate_Hunter> kk
[09:35] <cables> rabiddachshund: no, you should ask here. One someone starts helping you, you can move to private messaging.
[09:35] <piratenin> Can anyone help me set up my HP PSC 1610-All-In-One printer/scanner?
[09:35] <phantom_> ad remove  from applications package name please.
[09:36] <cables> !register | rabiddachshund, you'll need to register in order to private message people.
[09:36] <ubotu> rabiddachshund, you'll need to register in order to private message people.: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:36] <rinky> hi guys, anyone know how I can find out what NTFS driver dapper uses?
[09:36] <cables> !repeat | phantom_
[09:36] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: right click on the folder and tell me if root owns that folder and what permissions it has
[09:36] <rabiddachshund> ok, I'll ask again: does anyone have a clue why booting from disk only works once?
[09:36] <ubotu> phantom_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:36] <isidoro> hey ubotu is so sensible now?
[09:36] <sniper89> hey there, just a quick, simple question - I'd like to limit the bandwidth (ideally both down- and upload) on a SINGLE PC (I mean a program that you install on one PC and it works just there, no routers or something) and it has to work in the console environment, know any?
[09:36] <ompaul> rabiddachshund, what happens on the second one ..
[09:36] <greyfrog> !ntfs | rinky
[09:36] <ubotu> rinky: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:36] <ubuntuVNC> i think i will take this to the ubuntu forums
[09:36] <rabiddachshund> ompaul: it goes straight to windows
[09:36] <MKS> Hot damn! My spam post (lol) is now 'legal'! http://pastebin.ca/551367
[09:36] <rinky> thanks ubotu
[09:37] <cables> rabiddachshund: hold down Escape and tell me what happens
[09:37] <ompaul> !grub | rabiddachshund
[09:37] <ubotu> rabiddachshund: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:37] <greyfrog> rinky, ack wrong message...  can you already mount the ntfs partition?
[09:37] <rabiddachshund> k
[09:37] <kazim59> !ntfs-3g | kazim59
 permission is given to everyone only owner can execute but it is all greyed out and I havent got permission
[09:37] <ompaul> !msg the bot kazim59
[09:37] <ompaul> !msg the bot | kazim59
[09:37] <ubotu> kazim59: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:37] <rinky> greyfrog, I dont need to mount anything yet, I just want to know which NTFS driver my dapper has by default, so I can investigate alternatives for review
[09:37] <greyfrog> rinky, ahh cool :)
[09:37] <exw> fedora has an list archive for package updates: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2007-June/thread.html   Does Ubuntu have such a thing?
[09:37] <sniper89> guys?
[09:38] <MKS> VirtualBox woes detailed at: http://pastebin.ca/551367
[09:38] <sniper89> lemme ask again:I'd like to limit the bandwidth (ideally both down- and upload) on a SINGLE PC (I mean a program that you install on one PC and it works just there, no routers or something) and it has to work in the console environment, know any?
[09:38] <piratenin> Is there a #channel that I could get more support in for my printer/scanner?
[09:38] <ubuntuVNC> someone plz pm me if you have gotten samba to work witha  vista client to ubuntu server, because I can vpn and grab files over the net if I can get that to work
[09:38] <rinky> greyfrog, but yes, i can currently read and write to an NTFS, but I have no idea what I am mounting it with, I assume some driver is built into the kernel or something
[09:38] <rabiddachshund> Cables; it prompted for a boot order. I selected the cd and it booted windows.
[09:38] <rabiddachshund> :*
[09:38] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: is the file owner and group owner  root?
[09:38] <ompaul> !components  > exw  (check the message from the bot)
[09:38] <greyfrog> rinky, you can check what you are using by looking at /etc/fstab
[09:39] <Hoxzer> how c
[09:39] <EADG> sniper89: I don't know of any offhand but you might want to try 'apt-cache search bandwidth' or similar.
[09:39] <Hoxzer> how can I allow nautilus to auto mount cd/dvd without root previgles ?
[09:39] <sniper89> aight, thanks ;)
[09:39] <rinky> greyfrog: it says "type ntfs"
[09:39] <exw> ompaul: thanks
[09:39] <ompaul> Hoxzer, it does
[09:39] <ompaul> exw, enjoy ;-)
[09:40] <Pirate_Hunter>  <Zenerek> They must be cause I can't access it and I'm supposed to be admin
[09:40] <greyfrog> rinky, hmmm... not sure what it's using then, sorry :(
[09:40] <Hoxzer> ompaul: not for me...
[09:40] <rabiddachshund> cables: it prompted for a boot order. I selected the cd and it booted windows.
[09:40] <rinky> thats ok, thanks for trying greyfrog
[09:41] <ublender> *yawn*
[09:41] <ompaul> Hoxzer, version of ubuntu, and have you tried another dvd disk other than that appears to fail?
[09:41] <rinky> there are several NTFS drivers available for linux, anyone know which one Dapper uses?
[09:42] <ompaul> rinky, one that reads not writes
[09:42] <Hoxzer> ompaul: It tells me that I have to have root previgles in order to mount a disk.
[09:42] <rinky> ompaul, this one reads and writes, does that mean it's NTFS-3G?
[09:43] <ompaul> rinky, more than likely it is fuse
[09:43] <Pirate_Hunter>  <Zenerek> you there? please don't forget about me I need this urgently. The data I need is the project I'm working on
[09:44] <ompaul> Hoxzer, you put the disk in and it should appear on the desktop
[09:44] <Trashkiller> hello. i have some question .. i did install ubuntu gnome but im a newbie with linux ... maybe there is someone who can help me?
[09:44] <piratenin> Where can I configure my scanner?
[09:44] <rinky> when I aptitude search ~nfuse I dont show any installed packages though, sorry im new to all this
[09:44] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:  hold on man, i don't type that fast and i need to explain this well
[09:45] <Hoxzer> ompaul: nvm I figure out this my
[09:45] <Hoxzer> +self
[09:45] <MKS> http://pastebin.ca/551367
[09:45] <Trashkiller> Where can I configure the sound? i have a dolby surround system but the subwoofer etc isnt use?
[09:45] <Pirate_Hunter>  <Zenerek> sorry im getting freaked out & tomorow is the day I have to show it to my manager
[09:45] <rinky> oh, unless fuse is also in the kernel, hehehe, in which case I do indeed have it.
[09:45] <allblacks> could somebody help me with an internet sharing ???
[09:46] <snup> HI ALL  ubuntu users :) , i have smal problem (for me big) i have soundcard alc882 and i downloaded this driver http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/236655/realtek-hd-audio-codecs-driver-4.05f-linux-public-free-download.html and now is not get sound  and by install its shows me this : http://www.snup.hostuju.cz/Obrazovka-1.png any reason ??? (sorry my english im czech) Thanks
[09:47] <rinky> Anyone know how one can find out what versions of say, fuse, or NTFS support are built into a standard ubuntu kernel? Is there a command to check, or must one examine source code to find out?
[09:47] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, does anyone know how to downgrade wine with adept?
[09:47] <carlosqueso> rinky...it's just the standard ntfs support, no fuse or ntfs3g
[09:47] <greyfrog> rinky, I thinkit probably uses fuse... try dmesg | grep fuse
[09:47] <RytmenPinnen> steam is broken in the latest version and I dont wanna wait a week or 2 for a fix
[09:48] <rinky> dmesg | grep fuse, no results
[09:48] <greyfrog> rinky, then fuse isn't being loaded
[09:48] <Trashkiller> i think you can ask your questions here but you dont get an answer? :D
[09:49] <piratenin> Where do I go to setup a scanner? There isn't a scanner window in system > prefs like there is a printer one =/
[09:49] <snup> please help me
[09:49] <rinky> greyfrog, it must be being loaded, it afterall, mounts an ntfs partition of mine. i just dont know what driver it is called, or where it is
[09:49] <rabiddachshund> anyone know why the install disk only boots once?
[09:49] <greyfrog> piratenin, look for "sane"
[09:49] <phixxor> rabiddachshund: what does it do now?
[09:49] <rabiddachshund> goes straight to windows
[09:49] <greyfrog> rinky, does dmesg | grep ntfs return anything?
[09:50] <phixxor> rabiddachshund: could be your bios is set up to ignore bootable cds
[09:50] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. My wireless just started suddenly not working yesterday morning at around 1AM. I'm on a wired connection right now until I get it fixed, does anyone know how to fix it?
[09:50] <Pirate_Hunter> For the scanner person / apps menu>graphics>xsane scanner should have the drivers for your scanner hopefully
[09:50] <guest234> How can I stop the live cd from mounting the HDs?
[09:50] <guest234> everytime I umount it just mounts them back.
[09:50] <rabiddachshund> it worked a minute ago. I realized I had forgotten to create a backup, so I cancelled, created a backup and now it won't work
[09:50] <phixxor> guest234 - it usually doesn't mount anything
[09:50] <piratenin> I have the sane library installed... how do I access it?
[09:50] <mattis___> how can I search for specific files in aptitude?
[09:51] <KaiHanari> im soon going to be buying a USB wifi device for my laptop, as the wifi device it has is nonexistant, and it has a modded usb interface and some empty space i plan on putting this new device into... whats a good (and not expensive) usb wifi device fully compatable (WPA even) in linux?
[09:51] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: ok i gonna have you go into pure console mode, i don't know i think it best you go offline for this, any way hit ctrl+alt+f1 this will take you to pure console mode, now if for whatever reason you need to get out don't panic just hit alt+f7, when you enter the console mode you will be asked to login so enter root as user and then enter you password,ok next you need to cd to the path of the folder then enter this command chown 
[09:51] <carlosqueso> rinky: the module is called ntfs
[09:51] <greyfrog> piratenin, look for XSane in your Apps menu
[09:51] <guest234> phixxor: I have nautilus open.... could it be mounting them?
[09:51] <rinky> carlosqueso: confirmed, many thanks!
[09:52] <carlosqueso> np
[09:52] <phixxor> guest234 - it might be, but I don't think it is. sorry, I have to go
 kk what command? im copying & pasting all your writning
[09:52] <rabiddachshund> Hm.. I wonder... I have another computer here (3 total). I wonder if I boot feisty, cancel, and try again, would it do the same?
[09:53] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:  hold it man i made a typo,the chown command goes like this      chown yourname:yourgroup name of folder
[09:53] <EADG> mattis___: aptitude seach "search term here"  I believe thats how it's done.
[09:53] <rinky> guest234: there might be a kernel boot option (cheat code thing) that instructs ubuntu not to mount other partitions, you might be able to use it to overrride whatever is mounting your partitions, not sure
[09:53] <guest234> is there way to move a partition which is currently last on the HD and make it first? 'cause gparted isn't letting me do that.
[09:54] <mattis___> EADG: that only searches the description and packagename, I want to search for specific files
 kk got that...
[09:54] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:  be a little more specific what don't you get?
[09:54] <tom__> Hey! Ok i am hoping this is a quick and easy issue - i just installed amarok - rebooted and now i have no sound. Any ideas?
[09:54] <snup> has here anyone Mainboard : ASUS P5WD2-E Premium ?
[09:55] <nickrud> mattis___, dpkg -S /path/to/file will show you what package owns a file; is that what you're after?
 ive got that I need to type chown username and password, i was waiting for you to tell em the rest
[09:55] <rinky> snup: yeah me, but I only booted it up twice
[09:55] <EADG> mattis___: I don't know how to do that :/
[09:55] <Aggrav8d> I useradd lburgin; passwd lburgin; smbpasswd -a lburgin; mkdir /var/www/lburgin;  chmod lburgin:lburgin /var/www/lburgin;  add a reference to /var/www/lburgin in smb.conf; and reload samba.  the folder is visible in windows, but it doesn't accept my password.  anyone know why?  i tried asking in #samba with no reply.
[09:55] <snup> have  here anyone Mainboard : ASUS P5WD2-E Premium ?
 my group name of folder??? sorry I dont even knwo what my group is
[09:55] <Aggrav8d> i can't find any log of failed connect attempts, either.
[09:56] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, does anyone know how to downgrade wine with adept?
[09:56] <RytmenPinnen> steam is broken in the latest version and I dont wanna wait a week or 2 for a fix
[09:56] <madman91> hello all
[09:56] <tom__> Hey! Ok i am hoping this is a quick and easy issue - i just installed amarok - rebooted and now i have no sound. Any ideas?
[09:56] <madman91> RytmenPinnen: use cedega
[09:57] <RytmenPinnen> why would I pay for that when it works with wine, just not the latest version :)
[09:57] <iqon> EADG: dpkg-query --search foo
[09:57] <madman91> gthumb and dcraw take 100% when viewing simple jpg's .. any idea why? (this is happening on my dad's computer --> 32bit ubuntu feisty)
[09:57] <madman91> RytmenPinnen: because cedega handles a mucho more amount of games
[09:58] <robgrant> is there something wrong with base install on 7.04 (alternate)? I have installed on two computers now, and each time it barks that base install failed. If I choose the second install option (image) over the first failed installed, it seems to go smoothly. Anyway to jump to the image install first?
[09:58] <EADG> iqon: nice. I'm writing that one down.
[09:58] <RytmenPinnen> but as for now I just want steam :)
[09:58] <madman91> RytmenPinnen: i see.. thats fine then
[09:59] <RytmenPinnen> and when there's linux port for enemy terrotory QW I'll start to play that
[09:59] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: hold on
[09:59] <snup> has here anyone Mainboard : ASUS P5WD2-E Premium ?
[09:59] <madman91> dcraw takes almost 100% cpu when viewing a jpg in gthumb.. any idea why and how to fix it?
 i am I ahve no choice need to get this done tonight
[10:01] <Shaddox> Hi everyone. My wireless just started suddenly not working yesterday morning at around 1AM. I'm on a wired connection right now until I get it fixed, does anyone know how to fix it?
[10:01] <robgrant> RapidWeezle: seems we have opposing viewpoints, or at least opposing problems
[10:01] <RabidWeezle> did you disable then re-enabling it Shaddox ?
[10:01] <madman91> Shaddox: when did it stop working.. explain more :)
[10:01] <almien> did ubuntu servers just go down? like security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/universe/binary-i386/
[10:01] <Shaddox> RabidWeezle: Tried it, not working still.
[10:01] <almien> returning 404
[10:02] <RabidWeezle> like when my isp goes down rob_p , I do the un-check, recheck on the network dialog
[10:02] <RabidWeezle> or if I reset my router, same thing
[10:02] <Shaddox> madman91: Nothing really to explain. It just...stopped working....all of a sudden. Been working fine ever since i set it up till this morning at around 3 to 4AM, I just gave up and went to  bed, hoping if I let it rest it'd fix, but it didn't.
[10:02] <RabidWeezle> have you tried resetting the router Shaddox ?
[10:02] <RabidWeezle> as in, unplug, wait a minute, replug power?
[10:03] <Shaddox> RabidWeezle: I have. I've also tooled with its DNS settings, it currently points to my server. And yes.
[10:03] <madman91> Shaddox: i have no idea.. ask more people
[10:03] <zhujiale> almien: or they dropped breezy? :p
[10:03] <RabidWeezle> hrm, do you use wep?
[10:03] <Thorne> anyone tried the lapha yet?
[10:03] <greyfrog> almien, I get a page not found... doesn''t look like breezy-security is there... see zhujiale's reply
[10:03] <Shaddox> RabidWeezle: Nope.
[10:03] <Thorne> alpha
[10:03] <RabidWeezle> make sure there is nothing typed in the wep key section in ubuntu networking?
[10:04] <nickrud> almien, breezy was supposed to be supported for 18 months, it's done I guess
[10:04] <almien> uhh, wtf? how can you just break updates for peoples' computers?
[10:04] <RabidWeezle> lol
[10:04] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: ok go to system menu >  administrator > users and groups you will be asked for admin pass (not root) hightlight your name ok next click on properties advanced there you should see main group that is your group
[10:04] <nazgjunk> hey, sometimes my system does something rather odd. For some reason whenever my cursor is supposed to changed to the pointing-hand thing i can't see it anymore - i'm on kde btw.
[10:04] <almien> so now i can't install software
[10:04] <nazgjunk> it's rather annoying, and right now it usually takes a reboot to fix it
[10:04] <Thorne> kde...ew
[10:04] <nazgjunk> >.>
[10:04] <nickrud> almien, maybe upgrade time
[10:04] <greyfrog> almien, need to upgrade
[10:04] <dipnlik> hi, i have an ubuntu 7.04 cd and i want to install a minimum system (xubuntu?) on a virtual machine, is this possible?
[10:04] <Shaddox> RabidWeezle: There isn't.
[10:04] <almien> uhh, latest version of ubuntu doesn't work
[10:04] <Thorne> dipnlik:  yes
[10:04] <nazgjunk> i'll take it to #kubuntu regardless of what i used to install this system >.>
[10:05] <almien> I just installed 7.04 on my laptop 2 days ago and there are massive problems with it
[10:05] <greyfrog> almien, what do you mean "it doesn't work"?
[10:05] <dipnlik> Thorne: how do I do that?
 going to do that
 wait a sec
[10:05] <almien> don't want to subject my real computer to that sort of problme
[10:05] <almien> i.e. boot up, and no GUI whatever, just blank screen
[10:05] <madman91> dcraw (while using gthumb) is taking 100% cpu power.. any ideas guys?
[10:06] <almien> anyway, why break a working computer?
[10:06] <Thorne> breaking and fixing it are fun O_o
[10:07] <Thorne> dipnik i cant really tell you how without a long drawn out instruction you can google installing ubuntu on a VM
[10:07] <almien> for values of "fun" which involve losing your data and only a small chance of having a working computer afterwards
[10:07] <Pirate_Hunter> Pirate_Hunter: ok go to system menu >  administrator > users and groups you will be asked for admin pass (not root) hightlight your name ok next click on properties advanced there you should see main group that is your group main group adilson > shell: /bin/bash > user ID 1000 > does that mean anything
[10:07] <Thorne> almien: i was being sarcastic :P
[10:08] <Thorne> albeit sarcasm is kind of lost on the net so its not your fault
[10:08] <almien> yeah i know sorry, it's just pretty annoying to find that ubuntu, which is supposed to be this smoothly-upgrading thing, just suddenly stops working one day
[10:08] <zhujiale> almien: there are 3 stable ubuntu releases since breezy, one of which is LTS...
[10:08] <Deinumite> almein: uh , what kinda lappy are you using?
[10:08] <almien> thinkpad t21
[10:08] <Pirate_Hunter> oops
[10:09] <Thorne> almien: were you in the middle of an upgrade and it just froze or something?
  main group adilson > shell: /bin/bash > user ID 1000 > does that mean anything
[10:09] <almien> I installed from 7.04 bootable CD
[10:09] <Beta-guy> anyone have expieriance installing linux on a PS3?
[10:09] <robgrant> zhujiale: which 3 are stable?
[10:09] <Thorne> oh clean install?
[10:09] <Deinumite> almien, well, my computers about 7 years old and it runs it fine heh, yours isnt like 20 years old or something is it?
[10:09] <dipnlik> Thorne: i think I just need the instructions to install the basic system. because when i try to boot using the cd it wants to run as a live cd
[10:09] <Nahi> hello
 if I click on groups and admin Im added there so how come I'm still restricted
[10:10] <feem> hello i am having dl360 issues and my butt is sore.
[10:10] <Thorne> yea you want it to run as the livecd and install from there
[10:10] <Nahi> does anyone has an idea about a program that is similair to hot spotshield that can be used on linux ???
[10:10] <zhujiale> robgrant: well, I was refering to dapper, edgy and feisty...
[10:10] <feem> How do you enable noprobe mode in the ubuntu server install?
[10:10] <feem> because 'noprobe' does not seem to be working.
[10:10] <almien> so they just deleted all the programs that were packaged for breezy?
[10:10] <Thorne> nohotplug i think
[10:10] <robgrant> zhujiale" are they still available?
[10:10] <an> hi, what is DHCP
[10:10] <Thorne> or noprobe sorry
[10:10] <dipnlik> Thorne: i don't want to run as livecd, because it will install ubuntu, and I want less than that
[10:10] <feem> i did noprobe.
[10:11] <feem> it did not function the way i wanted it to
[10:11] <Thorne> hm
[10:11] <Deinumite> dipnlik, theres a just server version if you want just that, no gui! just text and server basics
[10:11] <feem> i need to squelch the hardware detect phase in hdds
[10:11] <Thorne> you basically want the console and nothing more?
[10:11] <Pirate_Hunter>  <Zenerek> the adilson group is empty cna I add root and admin in there or will that be a bad idea
[10:11] <feem> because it keeps loading the wrong order for this compaq array
[10:11] <feem> no, i need to install
[10:11] <feem> but i need to specify module load order
[10:11] <zhujiale> robgrant: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[10:11] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:  don't mess with it
[10:12] <Nahi> does anyone has an idea about a program that is similair to hot spotshield that can be used on linux ???
[10:12] <Thorne> hm anyone wanna buy my HP netserver LH 3000r?
[10:12] <Pirate_Hunter>  <Zenerek> kk
[10:12] <dipnlik> Deinumite, Thorne : i want to install ubuntu-server then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:12] <Ryan3595> hi
[10:12] <carlosqueso> dipnlik: why not just install xubuntu?
[10:12] <Deinumite> dipnlik: theres a separate server cd image on the site
[10:12] <Thorne> yea dipnlik they make the base server version thats what you want
[10:12] <rabiddachshund> ok, crap.
[10:13] <Ryan3595> anyone know how to install as dual boot
[10:13] <novato_br> i want games for ubuntu, what are links?
[10:13] <Thorne> just goto server
[10:13] <ahmed> guys.. any one tried qemu or kvm before ???
[10:13] <robgrant> zhujiale: ty
[10:13] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:  you need to highlight your name and click on the properties button(look up and to your  right) now you will be in another info box look up click on the advanced tab now you will be in another info box you should see what your main group
[10:13] <rabiddachshund> I tried to boot feisty on an xp and it worked. Twice.
[10:13] <Thorne> novato_br: what games theres a lot
[10:13] <carlosqueso> !dualboot | Ryan3595
[10:13] <ubuntuVNC> does anyone recommend webmin if I'm at the end of my rope with getting samba to work from vista to ub untu?
[10:13] <rabiddachshund> Why would it only work on vista once?
[10:13] <ubotu> Ryan3595: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[10:13] <novato_br> where, Thorne ?
[10:13] <dipnlik> carlosqueso, Deinumite, Thorne : the question was if this was possible using the ubuntu cd I already have
[10:13] <novato_br> !games
[10:13] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
 will try that
[10:14] <tarzeau> novato_br: http://first_wallhack.istheshit.net/
[10:14] <novato_br> thx
[10:14] <akahige> booting from a live cd to try and rescue my feisty install... I need to be able to edit some files on the partition, but can't figure out how to get to them w. sudo. the desktop is mounting the drive/partition, but I've got no privileges to edit
[10:14] <Thorne> i play openarena
[10:14] <greyfrog> ahmed, I use qemu
[10:14] <carlosqueso> dipnlik: not if you have the default cd, but you can always install xubuntu-desktop aftwrwards, and even remove ubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <Thorne> and q3 so
[10:14] <novato_br> because the games that I have been see, i can't the install
[10:14] <Deinumite> dipnlik: ah, well, if it doesnt show it in the menu, i dont know, but you can boot to just a command line i believe?
[10:14] <zhujiale> robgrant: this being the dvd images. releases.ubuntu.com has the cds
[10:14] <novato_br> i download Vdrift , but i cant install it
[10:14] <ahmed> guys.. any one tried qemu or kvm before ???
[10:15] <greyfrog> ahmed, I use qemu
[10:15] <ahmed> grey frog, is it a good emulation for games ?
[10:15] <ahmed> i mean vmware emulate xp but u cant run any games on it cause of the low vga driver
[10:15] <ahmed> in qemu ,, ??
[10:15] <Deinumite> i think VMWare is the only one that can do 3D
[10:15] <dipnlik> Deinumite: don't know if i can boot to the console from the cd
[10:15] <greyfrog> ahmed, same with qemu... you want to look into wine or cedega
[10:15] <an> hi, i am instaling ubunto and I need to configure my DHCP hostname
[10:16] <Thorne> i ran counterstrike through wine...that was not fun at all
[10:16] <ahmed> but cedega and wine doesnt cover all games yet
[10:16] <Nahi> please anyone help me i trying to bypass my isp proxy most webpages are blocked and sensored i used to use Hot spotshield on windows im trying to find a something that works in the same way on linux
[10:16] <ahmed> especially directx games
[10:16] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:  remember highlight you name from the list when your first enter iusers and groups then look right click properties next look up click advanced now there will be more info fileds one will say main group that is your group
 main group: adilson>shell: /bin/bash> home d: /adilson> id: 1000 > thats all it says
[10:16] <tao4mike> anyone know a good duplicate file finder/cleaner program that has an option to select one of the duplicatesand a gui?  Searched google and not much luck
[10:16] <ahmed> greyfrog:
[10:16] <ahmed> ?
[10:17] <Thorne> brb
[10:17] <feem> how do you disable the loading of a specific module in grub
[10:17] <zhujiale> Nahi: your isp censors content?
[10:17] <Blissex> tao4mike: for images GQView has a duplicate finder like that.
[10:17] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: good you know your group, suggest you change it later though, you should not post such things in public
[10:17] <greyfrog> ahmed, wine or cedega will be your best bet as 3d performance in QEmu is going to be bad
 lol thats why asked you to help me in private
[10:18] <ahmed> k..
[10:18] <greyfrog> ahmed, ... if you can get 3d at all
[10:18] <ahmed> anyone tried kvm then... ??
 how do i change it as I believe it is a good idea but one thing at a time what do i do now
[10:18] <ahmed> i heard its emulates hardware and therfore it can run directx or so
[10:18] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunte: hold on let me gather my thoughts
 kk
[10:19] <tao4mike> oh wow I didn't even notice that option :)  sorry only been using ubuntu abotu a week and no other *nix before...thank you soo much :)
[10:19] <Deinumite> ahmed: go to www.linux-gamers.net, theres some good howtos for some games,
[10:19] <zhujiale> Nahi: tried using tor + privoxy? read on it at tor.eff.org you'll see if it's what you need, since you give so little info.
[10:19] <neocoretech> ahmed: don't think kvm can emulate a 3d card for directX till now...?
[10:19] <greyfrog> ahmed, Qemu emulates hardware as well, but emulation will always be much slower than running the process on the actual hardware
[10:19] <Ryan3595> really helpful and thanks. i will start installation now
[10:20] <iqon> anyone have quake4 running with the intel i810 drivers?
[10:20] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:oh yeah something important in the chown command you must remember to put this symbol between yourname and your group :   look closlely agian :   so the command would chown myname:mygroup foldername i think it's called a semicolon.... just look at the example closley
[10:20] <neocoretech> ahmed: perhaps you can hope, that paravirtualization goes on with kvm, that you don't have to emulate a 3d-card, but can use your real hardware card...
[10:20] <neocoretech> and let's all hope for nvidia driver for the xen kernel :)
[10:21] <__mikem> Can someone help, I am trying to install postgress and the the repository at security.ubuntu.com is not responding
[10:21] <greyfrog> __mikem, you using breezy?
[10:21] <Nahi> zhujiale; i used to use hot spotshiled on windows it used to give me a whole new ip range and let me surf the websites with out there proxy cause all webpages goes through proxy.ae so if the page is on the there list it get blocked wich blocks me from downloading a lot of stuff
[10:21] <azazawe> hi!!
[10:21] <__mikem> greyfrog no I am on fiesty
[10:21] <Nahi> shield*
[10:22] <Nahi> zhujiale; even tor.eff.org is blocked :( i cant access it
 what example, couldn't you just type for me a model and I change the bits I need, I doubt it would be any different, I havent modified my ubuntu yet Im not at that stage so couldnt you jsut type here or on a separate window and I would just modify
[10:22] <zhujiale> Nahi: where are you?
[10:22] <Nahi> We apologize the site you are attempting to visit has been blocked due to its content being inconsistent with the religious, cultural, political and moral values of the United Arab Emirates.
[10:22] <jrib> anyone have any suggestions for workarounds to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/44233 (mounting udf dvd's fails)?
 sorry if I sound rude but this project is quite important
[10:22] <greyfrog> __mikem, repo worked fine here...  sorry couldn;t be more help
[10:22] <Nahi> zhujiale;  im in dubai U.A.E
[10:23] <__mikem> greyfrog, its alright
[10:23] <almien> is there a web page showing how to "upgrade" from breezy without losing all your data and settings?
[10:23] <rafael> hoi
[10:23] <snazzed> has anyone here set up a CVS pserver, or know how?  Have a cvs server going, and can't fgure out how to change
[10:23] <Deinumite> almein : separate home partition XD
[10:23] <an> what is LVM in partition instalation option about
[10:23] <Deinumite> for data anyways
[10:23] <Zenerek>  Pirate_Hunter:not really i have spoken to real rude people before
[10:23] <__mikem> jrib, I for what ever reason I can't talk to security.ubuntu.org
[10:23] <newbie> hello
[10:23] <almien> if ubuntu created aa home partition by default (which it doesn't) that might be interesting
 thanx for not lsoing patience with me
[10:24] <greyfrog> !upgrade | almien
[10:24] <ubotu> almien: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:24] <newbie> i need help with installing
[10:24] <almien> thankyou greyfrog
[10:24] <jrib> __mikem: pastebin the errors you get on 'apt-get update', maybe someone can help
[10:24] <zhujiale> Nahi: tor will give you access to anything, but of course it's a tad bit slower. it should be in the ubuntu repos.
[10:24] <BitEater> hi rafael!
[10:24] <__mikem> jrib, there is no error, it just doesn't connect, it just sits there
[10:24] <greyfrog> almien, no problem :)
[10:24] <Nahi> zhujiale; i cant access tor's page...
[10:24] <zhujiale> Nahi: install tor and privoxy with apt-get or synaptics
[10:24] <newbie> http://cspace.in/
[10:25] <__mikem> obviously I can connect to the internet as I am on IRC.
[10:25] <Deinumite> almein : yeah im not so sure why it doesnt, most people wouldnt know the difference anyways, but i think when i upgraded distros with apt-get it kept all of that stuff
[10:25] <jrib> __mikem: there is absolutely no output?  Does it return you to a prompt?
[10:25] <pietro10> hey again
[10:25] <Deinumite> newbie: what part of installing do you need help with?
[10:25] <__mikem> jrib, no it just gets to the connecting to security.ubuntu.org section and hangs there
[10:25] <newbie> all of it
[10:25] <newbie> i need help
[10:25] <pietro10> I *almost* got Ubuntu to look like OS X
[10:25] <jrib> __mikem: well eventually it would timeout.  Can you get to it in a browser?
[10:25] <Deinumite> er i dont even know what that is :P
[10:25] <pietro10> newbie: what problem do you have?
[10:26] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:ok example one this is chown command of course it will do you no good to copy it because in pure console mode you can't use your mouse                        chown name:group foldername
[10:26] <newbie> i cant get it to work
[10:26] <maria> I'd changed my system from English to Spanish but I can't find the way to change the keyboard as well, anyone that can help me ?
[10:26] <ubuntuVNC> okay, i just solved my samba problem.... I can connect to ubuntu from vista by doing \\192.168.1.100 but not by clicking on it by name
[10:26] <zhujiale> Nahi: I suppose Hotspot Shield is a sort of VPN or something. Not sure there's anything like that for linux. Tor will get you access to a complete (albeit slow) web access, from which you can start reserching a real alternative.
[10:26] <jrib> __mikem: and you mean "security.ubuntu.com" right?  not .org?
[10:26] <ubuntuVNC> what should I do from this point?
[10:26] <DiShin> ubuntu's the best SO in the world :D
[10:26] <greyfrog> Nahi, could you set up a ssh tunnel to a server that can access a tor server?
[10:26] <newbie> i dontthink i installed anything right
[10:26] <maria> by the way I'm using kde
[10:26] <__mikem> jrib, yes sorry
[10:26] <greyfrog> Nahi, not sure of how to do this though...
[10:27] <zhujiale> DiShin: how many of them have you used before comming to such a blunt conclusion?
[10:27] <__mikem> jrib, the same thing happened in the browser
[10:27] <__mikem> it just hangs
[10:27] <Deinumite> newbie: hmmm have you tried searching for it with aptitude? thats what i always do first to try and install something, heh
 kk got that part
[10:27] <Nahi> okay downloading tor now
[10:27] <jrib> __mikem: are you using firestarter or any other firewall?
[10:27] <Nahi> leme give it a try
[10:27] <jc-denton> can i resize an ext3 partition with a recent ubuntu cd w/o losing the data?
[10:27] <__mikem> jrib, no
[10:27] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter:notice that there is no spacing between the name and group name rather a that symbol serprates them here is the symbol again   :
[10:27] <newbie> you have to install cspace from source
[10:27] <newbie> you have to install all of the dependenices
[10:27] <maria> ?
[10:27] <newbie> ctypes,ncrypt,python
[10:28] <jrib> __mikem: and archive.ubuntu.com you can visit fine?
[10:28] <__mikem> jrib, havn't tried it yet
[10:28] <newbie> the link has it all
[10:28] <zhujiale> Nahi: also get privoxy, you'll be using them both together.
[10:28] <DiShin> Zhent, windows (95,98,XP,VIsta), Fedora, SuSe, RedHat and Knoppix
[10:28] <macsim> hi all, I have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/99740 any "clean" solution,  or am I need to rebuild compiz ?
[10:28] <DiShin> and i preffer ubuntu, Zhent
[10:28] <__mikem> jrib, no can't connect to archive.ubuntu.com either
 got that colon between name and group
[10:29] <jrib> __mikem: how about www.ubuntu.com?
[10:29] <Nahi> after i instal tor
[10:29] <Nahi> how do i run it
[10:29] <Nahi> i cant find it
[10:29] <__mikem> jrib, no can't access ubuntu.com either
[10:29] <feem> how do I noprobe in ubuntu 7.04 server install?
[10:29] <maria> how can I change my keyboard into Spanish I'm using English(US) right now.
[10:29] <rabiddachshund> FYI: Vista stops grub from reaching the boot stage. I'm seeing if I can find a workaround now.
[10:30] <jrib> __mikem: google.com?
[10:30] <Kamn> _mikem: It's been down the past  mins
[10:30] <__mikem> google works fine
[10:30] <Kamn> 5*
[10:30] <carlosqueso> __mikem: i have the same problem on the work comp, but not the home...DNS problem?
[10:30] <__mikem> carlosqueso, I am not that good with networking so I couldn't tell you
[10:31] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: goodit was important you get that(saves you some headaches) ok next an example of the chmod command(thank your luck stars i no the nubers version)       chmod 700 filename
[10:31] <Kamn> carlosqueso: I think Ubuntu.com is just down right now...let me check on another machine...
[10:31] <newbie> http://cspace.in/
[10:31] <snazzed> ubuntu.com = ok over here
[10:31] <greyfrog> here as well
[10:31] <newbie> can someone help me with it
[10:31] <jrib> Kamn, __mikem: maybe roadrunner doesn't like ubuntu!  It's probably some temporary problem...
 so after that I add chmod700 and the filename?
[10:31] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: the number sets the permissions
[10:32] <[agatha] > works for me as well
[10:32] <Kamn> jrib: II jsut check on a Mac and Ubuntu is up.....
[10:32] <carlosqueso> Kamn: I just brought it up on my home machine which I'm sshed into, but doesn't work from my work machine
[10:32] <Kamn> jrib: now it is working for me
[10:32] <carlosqueso> they blocking certain ips?
[10:33] <snazzed> has anyone here set up CVS on their ubuntu machine?
[10:33] <Pirate_Hunter> so it would be adilson:adilson filename chmod700??
[10:33] <__mikem> looks like I am going to have to download postgresql from the website
[10:33] <carlosqueso> strange....now it works
[10:33] <Kamn> I am fairly sure that the site+forums were down for a few mins there but w/e
[10:33] <Forsaken502> hey guys, I'm BRAND NEW to Ubuntu/Linux and need some help installing it from a LiveCD on a Dell Inspirion E1705, can someone give me a hand?
[10:33] <cables> !anyone | Forsaken
[10:33] <ubotu> Forsaken: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:33] <cables> Forsaken, sorry
[10:33] <cables> Forsaken502: just ask your question
[10:34] <__mikem> Forsaken502, do you want to duel boot, or do a complete takeover install
 so it would be adilson:adilson filename chmod700??
[10:34] <Forsaken502> I'm performing a clean insall (non-dual-boot)
[10:34] <pietro10> Forsaken502: say again?
[10:34] <cables> __mikem: we don't even know if his problem has to do with that yet.
[10:34] <tom__> Hey All - I installed Amarok and since then have lost all my sound - i have removed amarok and still have the same issue. Any ideas?
[10:34] <opapo> I get a "Host key verification failed" when I try to make a backup with Backuppc
[10:34] <cables> Forsaken502: okay, so where are you running into difficulties?
[10:34] <pietro10> torn__: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[10:34] <__mikem> Foresaken502, okay, first put the live cd in the drive and boot the computer
[10:34] <Forsaken502> it boots from the LiveCD to the install menu, then tells me it failed to start the X server. Does the same in safe graphics mode
[10:35] <Zenerek> Pirate_Hunter: whoa you have to remeber proper naming spacing and caps there is a space between chmod and the number    chmod 700 filename     notice there is a space bewteen the number and the folder name   and so you don't get confused this works on files too
[10:35] <pietro10> Forsaken502: reboot normally again and hit F4 (?) and choose VGA
[10:35] <Forsaken502> and it's Ubuntu 7.04 I believe. I have an earlier version (I belive 6.0 on CD that boots fine)
[10:35] <pietro10> that's all I can help you with sorry
[10:35] <cables> Forsaken502: 6.06/6.10?
[10:35] <almien> ubuntu installer doesn't work on VGA - its dialog boxes don't fit on the screen
[10:35] <snazzed> ok, my question is this...  by default, CVS installs in "server" mode.  I want to change it to "pserver" and I can't fig how.  All docs I read talk about changing your /etc/initd.conf and restarting initd.  My machine is running initd or xinitd and there is no /etc/initd.conf file
[10:35] <pietro10> I'm going to further enhance my Lin OS X experience
[10:35] <newbie> hello
[10:35] <cables> Forsaken502: perhaps you should install that, and upgrade.
[10:35] <Forsaken502> I think 6.06
[10:36] <newbie> can sumone help me with it
[10:36] <Forsaken502> k, I'm rebooting now
[10:36] <newbie> cspace
[10:36] <pietro10> newbie: your problem?
[10:36] <cables> Forsaken502: sometimes upgrades can cause issues, and they take a while, but you should try it, it might work.
[10:36] <newbie> installing it from scratch
[10:36] <Forsaken502> I can't install that. The CD is fine to boot from, but cannot install, hangs @ 40%. I think the CD is scratched
[10:36] <__mikem> Foresaken502, what video card does the video card use
[10:36] <tom__> Newbie - can you be a little more specific?
 <Zenerek> so it would be adilson:adilson <filename> chmod 700??
[10:36] <pietro10> Forsaken: choose Test CD for Defects from boot
[10:36] <NeoGeo64> Why should I run Linux?
[10:36] <tom__> Newbie - are you getting any errors or what stage are you stuck on?
[10:36] <Forsaken502> it has an ATI Mobility X1300
[10:37] <cables> NeoGeo64: that's for you to decide, but we can give you a few good reasons.
[10:37] <tom__> NeoGeo64 - Google is your friend ;)
[10:37] <newbie> can someone walk me through installing the dependencies and cspace itself
[10:37] <dan_> anyone have any ideas on configuring a port for 'boa' it is complaining that port 80 is already in use (no apache installed either)
[10:37] <__mikem> Forsaken502 you may have to do a text mode install and install the binary ati drivers from the root shell
[10:37] <NeoGeo64> is it more stable than windows me
[10:37] <cables> NeoGeo64: no viruses or malware, it's fast, it's easy, it's stable, it's fun, and it's free
[10:37] <cables> NeoGeo64: lol
[10:37] <pietro10> newbie: go just install cspace from Synaptic!
[10:37] <cables> NeoGeo64: it's more stable than Vista, let alone ME
[10:37] <newbie> its not available
[10:37] <klav> NeoGeo64: you are running ME??
[10:37] <snazzed> Going twice:   by default, CVS installs in "server" mode.  I want tochange it to "pserver" and I can't fig how.  All docs I read talk about changing your/etc/initd.conf and restarting initd.  My machine is running initd or xinitd and there is no /etc/initd.conf file
[10:38] <newbie> you have to install the dependencies
[10:38] <newbie> and then isntall the cspace zip
[10:38] <tom__> Hey All - I installed Amarok and since then have lost all my sound - i have removed amarok and still have the same issue. Any ideas?
[10:38] <ubuntuVNC> how do i unpackage from a ssh?  does the tar command require operators?  should i just input tar hamachi....tar.gz?
[10:38] <newbie> did you look at the site
[10:38] <__mikem> Forsaken502, thats what I had to do on my laptop
[10:38] <Forsaken502> Mikem - I'm brand new and have no idea how to install it from txt based mode OR install the binary ATI drivers. Any ideas?
[10:38] <__mikem> Foresaken502, well you are going to need to download the alternate install CDs from the website
[10:38] <pietro10> Forsaken: I can't help you with ATI until after you install, sorry :-(
[10:39] <NeoGeo64> i am running windows me im wondering if linux is more stable
[10:39] <__mikem> Then just follow the prompts on the cd
[10:39] <kbrooks> is it offtopic to poll?
[10:39] <NeoGeo64> also where can i find a keygen for ubuntu and how do i activate it
[10:39] <alistair_blunt> hello...does anybody know a way to reset the audio engine without rebooting?
[10:39] <Hannibal> no key needed :)
[10:39] <Pirate_Hunter>  <Zenerek>  or do you mean adilson:adilson chmod 700  <filename> ??
[10:39] <greyfrog> NeoGeo64, hah you're funny ;)
[10:39] <__mikem> Then when you boot up, select a root shell, and then use apt to get the ati binary drivers
[10:39] <Forsaken502> okay, I'll download them now
[10:39] <carlosqueso> NeoGeo64: you don't have to activate it...just download and burn
[10:39] <juliusnet> ciao
[10:39] <carlosqueso> NeoGeo64: it's even legal
[10:39] <Forsaken502> what is apt?
[10:39] <newbie> so is anyone gonna help me
[10:39] <NeoGeo64> a microsoft phone rep told me linux was warez
[10:39] <NeoGeo64> and illegal
[10:40] <carlosqueso> !apt
[10:40] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:40] <alistair_blunt> sometimes the os starts with no sound
[10:40] <Pirate_Hunter> sorry isnt neogeo an emulator a gaming emulator
[10:40] <tom__> NeoGro64 - Youre funny ;)
[10:40] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, that is not true
[10:40] <ubuntuVNC> !tar
[10:40] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:40] <kbrooks> neocoretech, and is this a joke?
[10:40] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter sorry damn modem dropped the line, you must understand that chown and chmod are two different commands
[10:40] <NeoGeo64> i heard linux was being discontinued. is this true
[10:40] <cables> Pirate_Hunter: no, not at all, it's a console.
[10:40] <pietro10> !synaptic > newbie
[10:40] <klav> neogeo was an old console
[10:40] <cables> NeoGeo64: cut it out.
[10:40] <pietro10> newbie: you now have a msg from Ubotu
[10:40] <newbie> you cannot do that
[10:40] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, linux is a kernel.
[10:40] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, so no.
[10:40] <tom__> NeoGeo64 - Use google! if you get any problems then come back here and ask...
[10:41] <forcerain> NeoGeo64: what's up?
[10:41] <newbie> you cannot install csapce from synaptic package manager
[10:41] <Pirate_Hunter> can some on type soemthing that i cna use as an example cause the way i understood it seems to be wrong
[10:41] <NeoGeo64> what about the allegations of copyright infringement within the kernel
[10:41] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, there are many developers that would take over linux kernel development.
[10:41] <NeoGeo64> by microsoft
[10:41] <cables> NeoGeo64: that's Microsoft BS
[10:41] <greyfrog> !offtopic | NeoGeo64
[10:41] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:41] <newbie> you need the dependencies and then the cspace zip
[10:41] <neocoretech> :kbrooks why? what? :)
[10:41] <forcerain> NeoGeo64: Microsoft may have a claim there
[10:41] <kbrooks> NeoGeo64, patent, not copyright
[10:41] <rapter> ad remove app from application package name please.
[10:41] <newbie> i just need help from getting it to work
[10:41] <carlosqueso> newbie...just install the dependencies through synaptic
[10:41] <forcerain> NeoGeo64: but IBM have a claim on Microsoft
[10:41] <ompaul> NeoGeo64 quit trolling
[10:41] <newbie> i did that
 could you type soemthing that i cna use as an example cause the way i understood it seems to be wrong
[10:41] <forcerain> NeoGeo64: so using Windows is just as "infringing"
[10:41] <newbie> i keep getting ncrypt no module error
[10:41] <carlosqueso> and is it giving you errors?
[10:41] <newbie> i dont get why
[10:42] <forcerain> except MS don't even use their own code in the main
[10:42] <Forsaken502> on Ubuntu 6.06 I can boot to a desktop, could I boot to that and then try an installation of 7.04?
[10:42] <pietro10> newbie: what is the package and what does it do?
[10:42] <Pirate_Hunter> cables> few i was thinking how hard was it to install neogeo, it seems this one is for a different purpose
[10:42] <ompaul> forcerain, don't feed etc ...
[10:42] <carlosqueso> newbie: so it is installed
[10:42] <madewokherd> my processor does cpu frequency scaling, and I'd like to change the governor from ondemand to performance; I can do this while the system is running by writing to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor, and I'm now doing in rc.local; but when the system starts up the governor is ondemand and I have to /etc/init.d/rc.local start to make the change work; ideas?
[10:42] <newbie> yes its installed
[10:42] <newbie> would you like me to paste the output
[10:42] <carlosqueso> newbie...sorry, I can't help then, as I don't use it
[10:43] <ompaul> !paste
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:43] <nootrope> Forsaken502: in 7.04 you can boot to a desktop too
[10:43] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter it was wrong, now that you got your group all you.....first of do you now how in a terminal to use the cd command to change your path?
[10:43] <Forsaken502> no I can't, that's the problem, gives me an X server error (cannot load video)
[10:43] <^Alec^> Hi
[10:43] <tom__> Hey All - I installed Amarok and since then have lost all my sound - i have removed amarok and still have the same issue. Any ideas?
[10:43] <rapter> ad remove app from application package name please.
[10:44] <cables> rapter: cut it out.
[10:44] <nootrope> Forsaken502: ah, ok. sorry dunno
[10:44] <forcerain> tom__: have a look at aRts :)
[10:44] <cables> rapter: what do you want?
[10:44] <Forsaken502> I was wondering if I stared the installation of 7.04 from Ubuntu 6.0x if it would get around the errors of not being able to load the x server
 nope jri just told me what to type in terminal I didnt save it as Im saving what youre telling me for future refence
[10:44] <^Alec^> Does anyone know why programs such as opera and open office wont work when useing ati graphics drivers?
[10:44] <tom__> Forcerain: Cheers!
[10:44] <forcerain> tom__: if arts is installed see if you can safely remove it
[10:44] <neocoretech> tom_: do you have gnome or kde running?
ad remove from application package name
[10:45] <tom__> neocoretech: I believe its Gnome (Standard install)
[10:45] <nootrope> Forsaken502: what kind of graphics h/w is on the box you're trying to install on?
 Jri basically told to type his command which would mount my slave HD into the create folder and give me access to it basically make me an owner
[10:45] <Lunar_Lamp> !vob
[10:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vob - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:45] <Forsaken502> it's an ATI Mobility X1300 in a Dell Inspirion 9400/E1705
[10:45] <^Alec^> Does anyone know why programs such as opera and open office wont work when useing ati graphics drivers?
[10:45] <neocoretech> tom_: do the other programms display some errors, or do they play but no sound is coming?
[10:46] <^Alec^> !ati
[10:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:46] <tom__> neocoretech - They all seem to function fine - just no sound. I used to get logon sounds and the works. Now nothing (not even from the interweb)
[10:46] <cables> rapter: can you elaborate?
 my pc might go slow so im gonna take a while to reply, going to install macromedia as some windows programs i need to have for my work
[10:46] <nootrope> Forsaken502: when you try installing, do you get any kind of menu?
[10:46] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, if I copy the files off a dvd, e.g. the vob's etc, how can I play them - I presume it requires recreating the dvd, but I don't know how to do that?
[10:47] <Devyll> how can I install php with curl support ? (I'm new to ubuntu)
[10:47] <neocoretech> tom_: is amarok still running? when you close it it's till in the taaskbar... which other audioplayers did you try?
[10:47] <mcronline> make an image copy of the dvd.. dont bother cutting and pasting vobs
[10:47] <tom__> Devyll: not a ubuntu issue - try google though =) i just installed LAMP with no issues - plenty of guides out there :)
[10:47] <Lunar_Lamp> mcronline, yes, I'd use dd normally, but I already have the vobs etc.
[10:48] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter well what was fine an dandy but it seems the permissions for the folder you use to mount the hard drive are changed which is why we gotta do this little sonng and dance , i suggest you learn ubuntu or at least put you data a windows os untill you learn
[10:48] <tom__> neocoretech - Amaroks closed now - i tried Rythmbox and get the same issue, websites produce no sound either.
[10:48] <nickrud> Devyll, search synaptic for php- , you'll find the different php modules you can install
[10:48] <mcronline> what i suggest you do is stick another dvd in your drive and look at the layout.. just copy the layout (folders etc) but use your vobs instead. i did that  before and it worked a treat
[10:48] <nootrope> Forsaken502: try the alternate CD
[10:48] <linenoise> Hey Chan.  How does one make /etc/mtab mount samba filesystems?
[10:48] <nootrope> maybe you can do a text-only install
[10:49] <Lunar_Lamp> mcronline, ah, ok, so I just play the directory that contains them then?
[10:49] <levander`> In rhythmbox, will a smart playlist be re-created every time I startup rhythmbox, or will the songs that match the smart playlist criteria just be imported into rythmbox once?
[10:49] <genericnickname> Hello
[10:49] <mcronline> yes...
[10:49] <mcronline> what program you using mplayer?
[10:49] <linenoise> join ##linux
[10:49] <levander`> mcronline: that answer is for me?
 well tanx for the help, after all this time im back to square zero. Well now I'm gonna have to patch something up tonight and hopefully I'll have something decent to show tomorrow
[10:49] <levander`> linenoise: you need a '/' before that join command
[10:50] <genericnickname> I'm having a bit of a problem: i can't log into Ubuntu. Whenever I try, it just hangs without showing anything but the login scree background
[10:50] <neocoretech> tom_: did you already reboot? to get amarok "really" out of the system.. btw when you play something with rythmbox, does the progressbar progress
[10:50] <neocoretech> ?
[10:50] <Ankman> mplayer directory/*mp3
[10:50] <tuxico> Does anybody know what ubuntu means? "I cant configure debian" xD
[10:50] <mcronline> no sorry Lunar_Lamp.. sorry i havent been in such a busy channel before
[10:50] <smfuss> hello
[10:50] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter you know what truth is this a little strange ubuntu should load all drives by default even usb drives when installed auto mount, what type of drive is it?
[10:50] <Ankman> or mplayer -playlist file_containing_list _of mp3s
[10:50] <levander`> genericnickname: maybe you have X configured incorrectly?  Ctrl-Alt-F1 to see if there are any error messages you have to stupdy to understand.
[10:50] <tom__> neocoretech: Yeah - i used symantech to remove it and all its dependsences. And yeah the progress bar moves allong merrily =)
[10:50] <levander`> Damn, no one uses smart playlists under rhythmbox?
[10:50] <smfuss> i cant install ubuntu, because my machine freezes, what can i do?
[10:51] <Lunar_Lamp> mcronline, well, I usually use kaffeine or vlc
[10:51] <mcronline> Ankman it is vobs for DVD video not mp3s
[10:51] <greyfrog> genericnickname, it may be ctrl-alt-f3 as well
[10:51] <Pirate_Hunter> it is EXT3 I might use gparted to check for errors
[10:51] <neocoretech> tuxico: isn't it a african name for friendship, and cooperation?
[10:51] <mcronline> Lunar_Lamp.. vlc should work
[10:51] <^Alec^> Does anyone know why programs such as opera and open office wont work when useing ati graphics drivers?
[10:51] <smfuss> when i try install ubuntu, i get kernal panic, and my machine freezes, what can i do?
[10:51] <smfuss> I have an P35 computer, ubuntu-i386 and 4 gb ram
[10:51] <Ankman> mcronline: same for them
[10:51] <mcronline> did you do a memory check smfuss?
[10:51] <levander`> smfuss: try to boot off the Install CD (using it as a LiveCD, not an install CD) if the install CD boots, Ubuntu should be compatible with the hardware on your machine
[10:51] <nootrope> smfuss: instead of installing do a memory test and a CD testto make sure that's not the problems
[10:52] <smfuss> mcronline, the memory check never finishes, it can go on forever...
[10:52] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter nah man i mean is internal,external usb,ata,sata
[10:52] <smfuss> levander, the ubuntu live cd does boot
[10:52] <smfuss> CD test says its okay
[10:52] <Forsaken5021> sorry guys, got disconnected
[10:52] <neocoretech> smfuss: choose at bootup the recovery mode kernel ;)
[10:52] <Lunar_Lamp> mcronline, I guess I could just convert to avi if I can't get it to work.
[10:52] <mcronline> smfuss: What about memory test?
[10:52] <assimilatah> 4all.nl
[10:52] <smfuss> neocortech, there is one?
 internal HD
[10:52] <mcronline> Lunar_Lamp: That would work too :-)
[10:52] <nootrope> smfuss: i had that prob once and found, thru the memtest, that it was a bad RAM module
[10:52] <smfuss> mcronline, i only did it for 2 min then i aborted, because it can go on forever, it never really stops as far as i heard
[10:53] <genericnickname> On CtrlAltF1, it says that there is an "MP Bios Bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO APIC". Then it says a bunch of numbers, and "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...", and nothing else
[10:53] <Forsaken5021> I looked into the X server output log and what looks like is happening is that it's not able to find an accepetable resolution (my screen is a 17" widescreen laptop)
 Using Feisty with linuxmint so I miss ad remove app from applications menu and when I install beryl because of the new kernel the repo isent updated corectly and dosent ad a package needed. Again I hawe 2 problems 1 ad remove and 2 beryl on xgl login acts with strange grafic (distorted) Both problems i got solvd yesturday the same way I try now.
[10:53] <^Alec^> Does anyone know why programs such as opera and open office wont work when useing ati graphics drivers? They work when useing the default drivers but the quality is no where near as good
[10:53] <tuxico> neocoretech, that can be, all together in errors :)
[10:53] <linenoise> How can I make /etc/mtab responsible for mounting samba filesystems?
[10:53] <kraft> HI all ! It the first time i try Linux and ubuntu and so far everything is ok(with some googling).But i have one problem i cannot solve.I m connecting to the internet with a wireless card and while i can surf and download with max speed,i cannot use torrents.Everytime it starts to download and then i loose my connection.Any tips? I already tried sudo ethtool -k wlan0 but nothing... :(
[10:53] <SimAtWork> ^Alec^: ati graphic drivers suck anus.
[10:53] <linenoise> I need an exmample entry from a working mtab
[10:53] <mcronline> smfuss: you need to leave it running for a while to spot faults.. its true it goes on and on.. but it is the only way to check ram
[10:53] <linenoise> and I can make it happen from there
[10:53] <SimAtWork> ^Alec^: if at all possible grab an nvidia video card.
[10:53] <smfuss> mcronline, i heard some guy ran it for 56 hours
[10:54] <smfuss> mcroline, i have 4 gb ram
[10:54] <Vanpriest> hi i tried to send emailwith mailx command. how cani change the FROM email? it always show me the user as email for example: root@localhost
[10:54] <linenoise> he must've had a boatload of ram
[10:54] <carlosqueso> smfuss...just run it for one pass
[10:54] <neocoretech> smfuss: when grub is loading hit esc to choose the bootoptions
[10:54] <mcronline> smfuss: even just a couple of hours should be enough
 at least tell me how i cna update ubuntu components and is there like a tmep file which I might have to delete regularly also cna i defragment the disk or is that only for windows
[10:54] <linenoise> Pirate_Hunter: no defrag in linux, no need
[10:54] <nootrope> smfuss: it'll loop forever if you let it. just keep an eye on the process and stop it when it begins on PASS 1 again
[10:54] <^Alec^> SimAtWork: Thanks, its an onboard chip
[10:55] <tom__> Hey All - I installed Amarok and since then have lost all my sound - i have removed amarok and still have the same issue. Any ideas?
[10:55] <linenoise> Pirate_Hunter: updating ubuntu is easy.  type 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get upgrade'
[10:55] <SimAtWork> ^Alec^: that's sad.
[10:55] <smfuss> neocoretech, its the menu where it shows "ubuntu," "ubuntu with safe mode grpahics", "memtest", "check cd" ?
[10:55] <greyfrog> tom__, whats the output of asoundconf list?
 I asc for 2 package names.
[10:55] <Pirate_Hunter> what about temp im guessing linux doesnt have something as stupid and useless as that
[10:55] <neopsyche> it seems my ubutu files are read only... why?
[10:55] <genericnickname> Is there any way to get back into the GUI after I've CtrlAltF1?
[10:55] <neocoretech> kraft: did you open the ports your torrent client at your wireless-router? which client do you use?
[10:55] <greyfrog> tom__, is it one line or more?
[10:55] <linenoise> Can someone send me a working example of an /etc/mtab entry for a samba filesystem?
[10:55] <neopsyche> how do i make files writable?
[10:55] <linenoise> chmod +w
[10:56] <^Alec^> SimAtWork: Im a cheap ass, cant afford much else
[10:56] <linenoise> neopsyche: chmod +w filename
[10:56] <tom__> greyfrog: more than 1 line =)
[10:56] <noun0urs> hi guys
[10:56] <ankebut> wath you mean with writable ?
[10:56] <carlosqueso> neopsyche: that's usually not a great idea though...if you want to change them, use gksudo gedit <filename>
[10:56] <jay> i stopped dbus and my computer fucked!!! what do i do?
[10:56] <tom__> Greyfrog - scrub that - i pasted the wrong command *doh!*
[10:56] <LjL> !language | jay
[10:56] <ubotu> jay: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:56] <jay> :/
[10:56] <jay> what do i do?
[10:56] <greyfrog> tom__, okay... it should list all the sound cards on your system
[10:57] <carlosqueso> neopsyche: they're write-protected to protect them form accidental foobaring
[10:57] <tom__> Greyfrog - yep it seems to of picked up both cards (the inbuilt intel one and the creative one which i use)
[10:57] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter you see that's frekin strange man, it should mount on boot you should be able to go into right away after boot, yeah you can upgrad three ways, given your newbieness look at the upper right corner of the desktop there should some icon the goes into the update screen, i think you will need to type in your admin pass
[10:57] <Trashkiller> hello. is there someone who can help me (only 1 or 2 minutes) i have a problem with the sound
[10:57] <linenoise> jay: firsts of all... describe uhmmm... the degree to which your machine is f'd please
[10:57] <greyfrog> tom__, my guess is that when amarok got installed it switched the default
[10:57] <jay> well
[10:57] <jay> i disabled dbus now nothing works
[10:57] <neopsyche>  changing permissions of `/etc/apt/sources.list': Operation not permitted
[10:57] <greyfrog> tom__, you can set the default with... one sec
[10:57] <linenoise> so you boot and what happens?
[10:57] <jay> i was playing around with services
[10:57] <tom__> greyfrog - any ideas how best to change it? i have dabbled with the sound control but not had much luck =(
[10:57] <linenoise> not nothing.  nothing can't happen.
[10:57] <ankebut> who can find a compiled version ofqemu with aceleretion.
[10:57] <Ryan__> sup all
[10:58] <jay> it says HAL failed to load
[10:58] <jay> and my wireless does'nt work
[10:58] <linenoise> that should be a non critical failure
[10:58] <neopsyche> ???
[10:58] <carlosqueso> neopsyche: to change your sources.list, type gksudo gedit/etc/apt/sources.list
[10:58] <greyfrog> tom__, sudo asoundconf set default <you car name here>
[10:58] <jay> any idea how to re-enable dbus?
[10:58] <neopsyche> i cant save it though
[10:58] <Trashkiller> How can I configure the sound, that my Subwoofer etc. works?
[10:58] <greyfrog> tom__, what does that output?
[10:58] <Ryan__> I have a question if there anyone out there who could assist me with GTK2-perl  Im trying to install it on Feisty fawn but I am new and have no idea how
[10:58] <neopsyche> all my files seem to be read only!
[10:58] <neocoretech> smfuss: do you boot from cd? normaly you have a entry with a kernel version and one of the same verion with recovery behind the name
 sorry no update theer it used to be when i first installed ubuntu amd im going to get the unbuntu bible book soon
[10:58] <carlosqueso> neopsyche: you will if you preface the edit command with gksudo
[10:58] <linenoise> Can someone send me a working example of an /etc/mtab entry for a samba filesystem?
[10:59] <jay> :@
[10:59] <craigbass1976> What does a line like this mean in a ps -ef ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL   Today, I booted up an apache server that's going to be installed enxt week, and it doesn't work all of a sudden, and I wnoder if it's multiple things like this running.
[10:59] <jay> can someone tell me how to reenable dbus?!?!?!
[10:59] <Ryan__> this channel is crazy lol
[10:59] <devyll> can you guys recommend a good php editor for UBUNTU ?
[10:59] <linenoise> jay, apt-get install dbus?
[10:59] <keeev> ryan__ yes it di
[10:59] <keeev> heh
[10:59] <ScurveyFrog> devyll: I like using KDevelop
[10:59] <linenoise> jay, how'd you remove it?
[10:59] <keeev> this gos on all day
[10:59] <ankebut> Ryan__, Yes :)
[10:59] <Ryan__> holycrap lol
[10:59] <keeev> i like it :)
[11:00] <linenoise> devyll: vi
[11:00] <Ryan__> lol you guys I'll give it to you, you got some dedication
[11:00] <tom__> GreyFrog - http://pastebin.ca/551548 Thats the output i get - am i right in using "Live" as its a Creative Soundblaster live?
[11:00] <v1nce> devyl: eclipse with the pdt project
[11:00] <Jabapyth> I am running kubuntu, but I installed gnome-office and restarted, and now I have the gnome desktop! how do I get kde back?
[11:00] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter ok then go to the system menu and click on synaptic
[11:00] <Ryan__> are there any other channels to join?
[11:00] <Ryan__> quiter ones?
[11:00] <greyfrog> tom__ yes "Live" would be correct... I think I gave you the wrong command... one sec
[11:00] <Ryan__> quieter**
[11:00] <tom__> Greyfrog - sure thing :)
[11:01] <ubuntu__> hallo
[11:01] <linenoise> Ryan__: you can turn off the comings and goings messages, that slows the screen down a bit
[11:01] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: you might try #ubuntuforums
[11:01] <Trashkiller> hi
[11:01] <mcronline> restart dbus as root: /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart
[11:01] <anabelle> hey how can i easily convert .mov to flv in ubuntu?
[11:01] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter anway i got some thought as to why you can mount it, maybe someone screwed with your bios and disabled it...had another one but slipped my mind.....damn
[11:01] <ubuntu__> is there anyone who have a pinnacle??
[11:01] <linenoise> jay: did you see that?  mcronline just fixed your problem
[11:01] <greyfrog> tom__, yep I should have lloked at the man page... it is: asoundconf set-default-card CARD
[11:01] <neopsyche> I typed sudo apt-get update does that mean it is now going to update every single package on my machine?!
[11:01] <nootrope> Ryan__: try irc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <anabelle> hey how can i easily convert .mov to flv in ubuntu?
[11:01] <greyfrog> tom__, or: asoundconf set-default-card Live
[11:02] <carlosqueso> neopsyche: nope...that just pulls the new package lists
  than what I dont know what to upgrade
[11:02] <carlosqueso> neopsyche: to update the stuff on your machine you use sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <greyfrog> tom__, also, shouldn't need sudo I don't think
[11:02] <linenoise> neopsyche: no, it means it's going to update the package list of all files.  apt-get upgrade actually "does" stuff
[11:02] <ubuntu__> ?????
[11:02] <tom__> Greyfrog - ok all done - just reboot and see what happens?
[11:02] <linenoise> Can someone send me a working example of an /etc/mtab entry for a samba filesystem?
[11:02] <greyfrog> tom__, try it out once first
[11:03] <greyfrog> tom__, might just work...
[11:03] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter relax, i was waiting for you to find it hold on gotta go into my own syanaptic
[11:03] <tom__> Greyfrog - Sure is!! Thanks allot man =)
  sorry
[11:03] <greyfrog> tom__, awesome :)
[11:03] <tom__> Greyfrog - will that stick now (so when i reboot it will still work)
[11:04] <greyfrog> tom__, it should stick... I believe it writes that info to a ~/.asoundconf file or something... more info at man asoundconf
[11:04] <tom__> GreyFrog - Thanks Allot man =) I know this is a shot in the dark -but if i re-install amarok and run the command again whats the chances of it working?
[11:04] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever had apache2 just stop working all of a sudden?
[11:04] <Ryan__> Is there anyone who could point this ubuntu noob in the direction to where I can find out how to install GTK2-perl on feisty fawn
[11:05] <greyfrog> tom__, not sure...  I've never used amarok.  I'd bet it might work though
[11:05] <Ryan__> I downloaded all of the packages
[11:05] <tom__> GreyFrog - Thanks Man - il give it a shot!
[11:05] <ubuntuVNC> is it possible to vpn using hamachi and browse folders as if I'm local?
[11:05] <nootrope> Ryan__: did you use apt-get or Synaptic?
[11:05] <Ryan__> I just don't know what to do with everything I read the GTK website and got no kind of information
[11:05] <greyfrog> tom__, cool, good luck :)
[11:06] <tom__> Thanks =)
[11:06] <Ryan__> ok well I tried to use synaptic but Im not sure what to put in for a search
[11:06] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: if you have an internet connection you can just type sudo apt-get install libgtk2-perl
[11:06] <nootrope> try GTK2-perl
[11:06] <nootrope> there ya go
[11:06] <Ryan__> it picks all of the right dependencies with it too?
[11:06] <tru_`z24> Is there a way to turn off bash_history?
[11:06] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: yup, that's the beauty of apt/synaptic
[11:06] <nootrope> that's the point with apt-get (and SYnaptic) it does it for you
[11:07] <Ryan__> god damm thank you
 ???
[11:07] <anabelle> hey how can i easily convert .mov to flv in ubuntu?
[11:07] <anabelle> hey how can i easily convert .mov to flv in ubuntu?
[11:07] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter ok now that your in synaptic look look left there is a little menu click on the one that says install,i guess you don't have to do it but just do it, no look up click on mark all upgrades after that just look for the apply button and agree to update,......damn man i said i type slow
[11:07] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: I think that was my reaction on using apt for the first time too ;-)
[11:07] <smfuss> maybe there should be a #dell channel for people using Dell AND Ubuntu
[11:07] <smfuss> lol
[11:07] <smfuss> or dellbuntu or something
[11:08] <Ryan__> wow I just never imagined it would be trouble free, I was trying to install this google mail checker
[11:08] <Ryan__> and needed gtk2-perl
[11:08] <Ryan__> plus it would be nice for installing a few themes too
[11:08] <Ryan__> thanks guys
[11:08] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: as long as the software's in the repos, installing is that easy
[11:08] <Ryan__> kk
 I dont want to install new programs I just want to update ubuntu security and the programs already installed jsut incase im missed a security issue or it might be me thinking like a windows user again
[11:09] <craigbass1976> FORGET IT!  I'M STUPID!  I had the %$(*&-ing server running on 8080 and forgot.  :)
[11:09] <nootrope> smfuss: with Dell, you can pay up front for the support when you buy the box
[11:09] <craigbass1976> But I was working on a couple of windows boxes this week and got used to the fact that things work one minute, and might not the next.
[11:10] <Ryan__> hmm what does this mean? I tried using the command line to install GTK2-perl Reading package lists... Done
[11:10] <Ryan__> Building dependency tree
[11:10] <Ryan__> Reading state information... Done
[11:10] <Ryan__> libgtk2-perl is already the newest version.
[11:10] <Ryan__> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[11:10] <Ryan__> anna@anna-laptop:~$
[11:10] <Ryan__> is it already installed?
[11:10] <nootrope> Ryan__: it's already here
[11:11] <nootrope> there
[11:11] <Zenere1> Pirate_Hunter well you got to options you can install it all(they are all updates to your installed apps) or you can sit there and nitpick, one thing you could do without is open office...seroius hog of space
[11:11] <Ryan__> oh ok so now I gotta install it?
[11:11] <nootrope> nope. it's installled, Ryan__
[11:11] <Ryan__> ok.... hmmmm
[11:11] <nootrope> hahaha
[11:11] <nootrope> not behaving like you expect it to, Ryan__?
[11:12] <Ryan__> lol this is crazy lol
[11:12] <mcronline> Does anyone know if you can switch between Compiz and Metacity via command line?  I want to put it in to a start up script for World of Warcraft (and any 3D app come to that)
[11:12] <Ryan__> ah man so it must have been taken care of somehow
[11:12] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: how about a link to the program you're trying to install?
[11:12] <Ryan__> Im getting used to this
[11:12] <Ryan__> kk
 true that i doubt ill se open ioffice 2003 is a need
[11:12] <Ryan__> http://checkgmail.sourceforge.net/#install
[11:13] <ubuntuVNC> can someone help me resolve my name resolutions problems?  my vista client can connect to 192.168.1.100 to see my shares but can't see them under \\zacchaeus
[11:13] <rapter> lexmark Z600 install driver ???
[11:13] <carlosqueso> and what error do you get when you try to install?
[11:14] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: actually, all you need to do is type sudo apt-get install checkgmail
[11:14] <Ryan__> Warning: Gtk2::TrayIcon not found ...
[11:14] <Ryan__> Warning: XML::Simple not found ...
[11:14] <Ryan__> Warning: Crypt::SSLeay not found ...
[11:14] <Ryan__> damm seriously?
[11:14] <kazim59> hey .. i m getting bored.. do u know some simple nice arcade game for ubuntu that i can download and play?
[11:14] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: yup, it's in the repos
[11:14] <Ryan__> holycrap lol
[11:14] <darwin81> What is the most popular Music player/manager for Ubuntu?
[11:14] <Ryan__> is there a repo directory?
[11:14] <nootrope> Ryan__: so you d/l'ed GTK2-perl. did you try installing the others the same way (apt or synaptic)?
[11:14] <mcronline> kazim59 chromium is good
[11:14] <Pirate_Hunter> im gone time for work at least watever i can pull off
[11:15] <Pirate_Hunter> c yah ppl bye
[11:15] <Ryan__> I havent got the others yet
[11:15] <Ryan__> I got stuck on trying to isntall the packages on the GTK2
[11:15] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: don't bother, when you type that command I gave you, it'll pull the rest for you
[11:15] <Ryan__> kk
[11:15] <Ryan__> thanks
[11:15] <nootrope> open synaptic and search for gtk2-trayicon
[11:15] <smfuss> anyone used Ubuntu with a Intel P35 chipset?
[11:15] <Ryan__> damm
[11:15] <kazim59> mcronline: downloading chromium
[11:16] <Ryan__> this is too freakin cool
[11:16] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: also, if you want to search for others, you can use synaptic (it's in your menu, I don't know where cause I don't use it) to search for programs, or use packages.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <mcronline> kazim59..its a shoot em up... if you want something cool with 3d get WoP.. its addictive
[11:16] <Ryan__> kk
[11:16] <kazim59> mcronline: WoP... apt-get would do it?
[11:16] <mcronline> Ryan: its under System/Administration
[11:16] <nootrope> Ryan__: it's under System | Administration
[11:16] <lastkey0> Hi, I need help mounting my USB drive, It was mounted automatically but now when i connect it says "You are not privilliged to connect"
[11:17] <mcronline> Kazim59: yes
[11:17] <Ryan__> kk
[11:17] <g4t0x> wenas
[11:17] <Ryan__> it selects the right htings to install for you right?
[11:17] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: yup
[11:17] <Ryan__> I dont ever have to add more options that arent selected
[11:17] <Ryan__> ?
[11:17] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: you shouldn't...that's why apt/synaptic is there
[11:17] <nootrope> Ryan__ it checks dependencies
[11:17] <darwin81> What is the most popular Music player/manager for Ubuntu?
[11:18] <Ryan__> ahhh kk
[11:18] <Ryan__> gotcha Im understanding things now
[11:18] <Zenere1> so anyone know the current state of playing windows games vila cedega? wine?....anything get better?
[11:18] <Ryan__> very cool
[11:18] <kazim59> mcronline: could not find package wop... which repo?
[11:18] <dawn_chorus> darwin81, amaroK seems to be right on up there.  but that's more #ubuntu-offtopic.  :)
[11:18] <SimAtWork> Zenere1: last time i tried it was decent. but it depends on the game.
[11:18] <SimAtWork> Zenere1: any bugs in the games are amplified by wine.
[11:18] <mcronline> Zenere1: I use wine to play World of warcraft and Quake3 is native (if i remember correctly)
[11:19] <rapter> Please help. Ad remove  app  from application. I need package name so I can install it again.
[11:19] <Ryan__> hmmm is google mail down right now?
[11:19] <weltschmerz> the guy who founded RangeVoting.org just found a new break for AES.  Paper 100, at the bottom of the page: http://www.math.temple.edu/~wds/homepage/works.html
[11:19] <lastkey0> Hi, I need help mounting my USB drive, It was mounted automatically but now when i connect it says "You are not privilliged to connect"
[11:19] <mcronline> raptor: you can search by destription
[11:19] <Ryan__> mine says it is for some weird reason
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: what app?
[11:20] <nootrope> rapter: now try that in a complete sentence ;)
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: lol
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> OMG, i have updates ready
[11:20] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: no, not sure what's wrong with that
[11:20] <tlhiv> hi folks ... i have a program machine with 4GB of RAM and a dual CPU ... how can i run a program and restrict that program to one CPU and 2GB of ram?
[11:20] <Ryan__> ah well Im sure it will sort itself out
[11:21] <nootrope> Ryan__: in in my Inbox and it's ok
[11:21] <Zenere1> ok check it if need be i can summon my monster system 4600 dualcore  ati x1650 550 ddr and sata dvd drive and hard drive, qould that be enough to get past the slowness?
[11:21] <kraft> HI all ! It the first time i try Linux and ubuntu and so far everything is ok(with some googling).But i have one problem i cannot solve.I m connecting to the internet with a wireless card and while i can surf and download with max speed,i cannot use torrents.Everytime it starts to download and then i loose my connection.Any tips? I already tried sudo ethtool -k wlan0 but nothing... :(
[11:21] <rapter> I need ad remove application , the last from application menu  how do I install it?
[11:21] <Ryan__> Anyone here ever try to share their skypeout account?
[11:21] <Ryan__> lol
[11:21] <ensgabe> What's a good way to get a complete set of manpages installed?
[11:21] <nootrope> rapter: can you use ynaptic?
[11:22] <nootrope> oops Synaptic?
[11:22] <IndyGunFreak> i can't even figure out what application he's trying to add/remove
[11:22] <ensgabe> Is manpages-posix{-dev,} the complete set, or is there more?
[11:22] <kazim59> mcronline: chromium was nice.. where do i download wop? is wop free?
[11:22] <greyfrog> rapter is trying to get back the "add/remove applications" menu item in the Application menu
[11:22] <nootrope> IndyGunFreak: sounds like he wants to install an app called add/remove, which i have no idead exists or not
[11:22] <Zenere1> man pages.....man they are long and make me sleepy
[11:23] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: lol, never heard of it either
[11:23] <rapter> nootrope ad remove wod make life esear
[11:23] <nootrope> thanks, greyfrog
[11:23] <greyfrog> IndyGunFreak, nootrope  rapter is trying to get back the "add/remove applications" menu item in the Application menu
[11:23] <Zenere1> by the way my nickname is Zenerek.... for some damn reason it's been changed
[11:23] <greyfrog> IndyGunFreak, nootrope, I'm not sure how to do this though...
[11:24] <newb_prob> I have a webcam working under linux at 320x240, using v4l. It can do 640x480 (natural, w/o software enhancement). How do I push it up?
[11:24] <kitsune> is anyone else having issues with windows not connecting on the edge of a Beryl cube?
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[11:24] <greyfrog> kitsune, this is an option... check beryl-manager
[11:24] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: try this..... Right click your applications menu, Click Remove from panel.
[11:25] <newb_prob> R = 	Y + 			1.13983 	V
[11:25] <newb_prob> G = 	Y  	0.39466 	U  	0.58060 	V
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> once its removed, right click your panel, click Add to Panel, go through the list and drag "Menu Bar" to your panel
[11:25] <kitsune> greyfrog: can you guide me a little more?...I've looked everywhere. I must be overlooking it
[11:25] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: did you understand that?
[11:26] <greyfrog> kitsune, I'm not in front of my ubuntu box right now or I would :( (stuck at work)
[11:26] <arcade> greyfrog: You mean you don't use ubuntu at work?
[11:26] <arcade> greyfrog: stuck with redhat or something similiarly ghasty?
[11:26] <IndyGunFreak> well unless he works for himself, he probably doesn't have a choice
[11:26] <kitsune> greyfrog: thanks. I'll keep looking ^_^. but you are pretty sure you saw it in there somewhere?
[11:26] <greyfrog> arcade, worse... xp :(
[11:26] <arcade> greyfrog: find new work :P
[11:27] <rapter> `<IndyGunFreak> I no but i havent instaled it I use linux mint (feisty with codecs) i need the comand to install
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: well why are you in an ubuntu chatroom?... Mint has a completely different menu setup
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> ask in #linuxmint
[11:27] <greyfrog> kitsune, yep, it's in there... hidden for sure, but in there... I had the same problem
[11:27] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to install Iceweasel with the i386 Debian package, but it says the dependancy libhunspell-1.1-0 is not satisfiable, although apt-get says I have this package. Any ideas?
[11:27] <IndyGunFreak> and second... thats what you get for using a distro that tries to copycat.
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> poorly at that
[11:28] <TTT_Travis> Ok this is one of the weirdest problems I've ever had, I have Ubuntu computer connected to my Sharp 37" LCD Tv via HDMI (DVI) it was working fine, but today I rebooted and everything looks green, like what should be black comes out green
[11:28] <arcade> IndyGunFreak: Coming from ubuntu that's rich :P
[11:28] <TTT_Travis> what would cause this?
[11:28] <nootrope> rapter: you're not from 'round these parts, are ya? ;)
[11:28] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, yeah, don't use debian packages on ubuntu. It's a life of frustration and rage
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> arcade: what do you mean?...
[11:28] <yurimxpxman> nickrud: what else is there? 0_o
[11:28] <arcade> IndyGunFreak: Ubuntu is a copycat / derivate of debian.  :P
[11:28] <IndyGunFreak> oh, i get it, ubuntu copies debian...
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> well, Ubuntu not only copied debian, it made it better, so thats different
[11:29] <Jowi> TTT_Travis, perhaps you had a kernel update before last reboot?
[11:29] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, for iceweasel, not much. But ubuntu explicitly says not to expect compatibility
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> Mint isn't any better than Ubuntu, or i'd agree with you
[11:29] <TTT_Travis> Jowi not that I know of, the power might have went out though
[11:29] <arcade> IndyGunFreak: And I'm pretty sure mint linux has made some things they think are better in their distro than in ubuntu.
[11:29] <arcade> IndyGunFreak: So  *shrugs* who cares? :P
[11:29] <Dybber> How can I see which packages I have installed, that matches a name? like apt-cache search for installed packages?
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> arcade: all it is is Ubuntu, with all multimedia codecs pre-installed.
[11:29] <yurimxpxman> nickrud: alrighty. I'm going to try the source code, though.
[11:29] <IndyGunFreak> if you can't install them in Ubuntu, you should stick with Windows.
[11:30] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, better choice, that
[11:30] <Jowi> TTT_Travis, did you try to power off completely and power it back on again? might be a glitch (cable or driver)
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> there's only 90 gazillion sites, posts, etc, on how to install multimedia codecs
[11:30] <IndyGunFreak> brb, just had a kernel update, need to restart
[11:30] <TTT_Travis> Jowi tried rebooting multiple times
[11:30] <TTT_Travis> problem persists
[11:30] <TTT_Travis> the color levels are all normal in the ubuntu options
[11:30] <TTT_Travis> TV is just fine
[11:30] <dad> Hello. How do I move the Trashcan from the panel to the desktop?
[11:30] <TTT_Travis> my Blacks are Green ;(
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[11:31] <Jowi> TTT_Travis, sounds like a kernel or driver that is misbehaving. when you rebooted did you notice a change in kernel versions in the grub menu or do you now have more options than previously?
[11:31] <nickrud> dad, right click the trash on the panel and remove it, then in a terminal type gconf-editor, and navigate the tree on the left to apps/nautilus/desktop and select trash_icon_visible
[11:32] <Jowi> TTT_Travis, more boot options I mean
[11:32] <dad> nickrud: Thank you.
[11:33] <ubuntuVNC> if when using samba, I can type in an ip and see the shares, but not the actual name... what do I do to correct that?  I'm trying to be able to access my smb shares through the internet when i leave home... hamachi issnt work etc so im thinking this is the issue
[11:33] <greyfrog> dad, ln -s ../.Trash ~/Desktop/.
[11:33] <ubuntuVNC> can i map a computer by it's mac address in the smbusers file or what would you guys do?
[11:34] <nickrud> Dybber, dpkg -l <packagename> , ii at the front means installed
[11:35] <nickrud> Dybber, another way is aptitude search ~i<partialpackagename>
[11:35] <dad> Is there also a way to make some mounted drives not show up on the desktop?
[11:36] <Hillview> dad, set a different mount point for them other than /media
[11:36] <dad> Hillview: Thank you.
[11:37] <Dybber> nickrud, thanks
[11:37] <dad> Hillview: Like say /mnt?
[11:38] <whonicca> whats really good with the new kernel?
[11:38] <Hillview> dad, that should work.  as long as you create the directory you're mounting them in.  I'm assuming it's your windows partition that's annoying you?  I set mine to /windows, I think.
[11:38] <paradox> hi
[11:38] <whonicca> it just locks my system up
[11:38] <paradox> yow guys, I need help...
[11:39] <paradox> can anyone tell me how to look at a list of servers (quakenet IRC servers)
[11:39] <J_P> is possible i get one new kernel from ubuntu ?
[11:39] <Jowi> whonicca, if it does, use the "old" one. sometimes it happens. newer isn't always better (for certain systems)
[11:39] <dad> Hillview: Actually it's my recovery partition, but will remount under /mnt/recovery. Thank you for the help.
[11:39] <nickrud> Dybber, another useful one is aptitude search '!~i<partialname>'  (don't forget the ticks), it gets not installed
[11:39] <JK_the_CJer> hello everyone
[11:39] <paradox> can anyone tell me how to look at a list of servers (quakenet IRC servers)?
[11:39] <J_P> like as in debian changing sources.list to unstable to get only q kernel source and come back to stable ?
[11:39] <r00tintheb0x> I really enjoy using Sun hardware.
[11:40] <JK_the_CJer> I accidently removed the update notification icon/applet from my panel, does anyone know how to get it back?
[11:40] <spasticteapot> r00tintheb0x: I really don't like the pricetag of Sun hardware.
[11:40] <spasticteapot> That said, if I'm ever going to get a cheap server of any type...it's going to be an old Sun.
[11:40] <r00tintheb0x> spasticteapot, neither do i... but you get more bang for your buck.
[11:41] <r00tintheb0x> I just got a Sunfire v210
[11:41] <r00tintheb0x> Running Solaris 10
[11:41] <r00tintheb0x> 64Bit
[11:41] <r00tintheb0x> w00t
[11:41] <Jowi> Paradoxx, I thought quakenet was the server and not several ones
[11:41] <Ryan__> hey can anyone tell me if there are worms and spyware that can be isntalled on ubuntu?
[11:42] <Ryan__> that steal your information
[11:42] <r00tintheb0x> Ryan__, yes there is.
[11:42] <yurimxpxman> I'm trying to compile Iceweasel now, but it says "configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required"
[11:42] <r00tintheb0x> ryan-g2, check out http://neworder.box.sk
[11:42] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: in theory, yes, in practice, not really
[11:42] <Ryan__> what can you do about them?
[11:42] <r00tintheb0x> i mean Ryan__
[11:42] <TTT_Travis> Jowl my boot seems the same, still just Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-15-generic and recovery mode
[11:42] <nickrud> yurimxpxman, try ./configure --help
[11:42] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: just install software only from repos or trusted sites
[11:42] <nootrope> Ryan__: don't let your box sleep around ;)
[11:42] <r00tintheb0x> Ryan__, there's more exploits than worms and Trojans.
[11:42] <Jowi> Paradoxx, this is the fist hit on quakenet.org : http://staff.quakenet.org/servers.phtml
[11:42] <Ryan__> oh ok
[11:43] <Ryan__> would installing an antivirus help lol
[11:43] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: and if you're otherwise nervous, there's rkhunter in the repos
[11:43] <Ryan__> rkhunter?
[11:43] <TTT_Travis> how can I upgrade my kernel, maybe that will fix the green tint
[11:43] <MKS> I need to force installation of pkg even if installer cant find archive........... how can i do that
[11:43] <Ryan__> Im gonna check it out
[11:43] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: yup, it scans the security of your comp....don't know how necessary it is, but I run it
[11:43] <Ryan__> its the best program for dealing with this stuff?
[11:44] <r00tintheb0x> Ryan__, another one is chkrootkit
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> rkhunter?
[11:44] <MKS> I need to force installation of pkg even if installer can't find the archive...... how can I do that? any suggestions?
[11:44] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: the best way to deal is to be careful...but a program like that can't hurt
[11:44] <carlosqueso> !rkhunter | IndyGunFreak
[11:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rkhunter - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> don't think ive ever saw it mentioned
[11:44] <Ryan__> ok
[11:44] <nootrope> rootkit hunter
[11:44] <carlosqueso> !info rkhunter | IndyGunFreak
[11:44] <ubotu> indygunfreak: rkhunter: rootkit, backdoor, sniffer and exploit scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-3 (feisty), package size 133 kB, installed size 528 kB
[11:45] <Jowi> TTT_Travis, sorry I missed your response, my nick spells with an "i" at the end so it wasn't highlighted. if it's not the kernel maybe it's your video driver. very hard to say.
[11:45] <Malachi> If I'm on a mac, how do I right-click in Ubuntu?
[11:45] <rudenstam> anyone know if hdparm works with sata drives and if it's safe to change the "IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)" to 1 while the disk is not mounted ?
[11:45] <carlosqueso> there we go
[11:45] <Malachi> The touchpad only has 1 button
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> i'm insalling it now.
[11:45] <Ryan__> couldnt find rkhunter in the add remove program thingy
[11:45] <nootrope> Malachi Control-click?
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: its in the repos, i just installed it.
[11:45] <MKS> I need to force installation of pkg even if installer can't find the archive...... how can I do that? any suggestions?
[11:45] <Malachi> nootrope: Hold on. I'll see what he says.
[11:45] <Ryan__> ok so I go to synaptic?
[11:45] <Malachi> nootrope: Nope
[11:45] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: yeah, try that
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: thats what i did.
[11:46] <rapter> I need package name so i can install adremove to adremove to Applicationpanel.
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: just go to synaptic, search for rkhunter, thats what id id.
[11:46] <squeegee> I checked the #openoffice channel, but there were only 2 people in it, so here is my question, perhaps one of you can help me. I have a Open office spreadsheet which has a column for first name and last name, as well as about 5 other fields. I want to sort the whole thing A->Z by last name, but whenever I select the "last name" column and do the sort function, it just sorts the names, not the rest of the data. Is there a way to
[11:46] <squeegee> "lock" the rows together so that if I sort the last names, the whole sheet gets re-sorted, with the correct data in the rows that it's supposed to be on?
[11:46] <maikie> hello pps can anyone help me dual boot xp and that latest ubuntu?
[11:47] <nootrope> Malachi, i remember something about this...hang on
[11:47] <maikie> its different to the old versions.
[11:47] <pike_> !mbr | miip
[11:47] <alindeman> Try #openoffice.org too
[11:47] <squeegee> ok
[11:47] <pike_> maikie: hmm.. what is the problem?
[11:47] <ubotu> miip: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:47] <carlosqueso> squeegee: just slelect all of the columns you want to sort and move your cursor to the last name field...then you should be able to sort by clicking sort
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> i'm scanning my laptop now
[11:47] <IndyGunFreak> i think i'll be ok... i've got a pretty good hardware firewall
[11:48] <squeegee> carlosqueso: thanks
[11:48] <Ryan__> hmmmm I should get a firewall
[11:48] <carlosqueso> squeegee: np
[11:48] <Ryan__> what's a good one for ubuntu?
[11:48] <Ryan__> nm I'll check the repos
[11:48] <Ryan__> lol
[11:48] <Ryan__> ahahha
[11:48] <carlosqueso> Ryan__: firestarter is what most people use
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: prsonally, i think its crazy to use any always on connection, w/oa hardware firewall
[11:48] <Ryan__> kk
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: supposedly firestarter is good, but i don't use a software firewall
[11:49] <carlosqueso> I have a hardware one...so I don't really use one either
[11:49] <nootrope> Malachi try F11
[11:49] <Mao> Hello
[11:49] <Mao> is this chatroom for noobs?
[11:49] <nootrope> Malachi F12
[11:49] <maikie> basically i want to know how to dual boot.
[11:49] <ubuntuVNC> Ok guys, I can login to my comptuer through 192.168.1.100 and see my shares, but can't using the name of my computer... I want to be able to connect to my samba server from wherever through hamachi..... and that's not currently working, what do I do?
[11:49] <maikie> xp and ubuntu
[11:49] <nootrope> Malachi: F11 is for the third button
[11:49] <Jowi> !dualboot | maikie
[11:49] <ubotu> maikie: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:49] <carlosqueso> Mao, this chatroom's for everybody, what'syour problem
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> i have no vulnerabilities.. yippee
[11:49] <Malachi> nootrop: Where did you get this info?
[11:49] <Mao> I'm trying to setup my Modem
[11:50] <carlosqueso> congrats, IndyGunFreak
[11:50] <vincois> install xp 1st
[11:50] <maikie> ty
[11:50] <Mao> I followed the Wiki on setting up an Intel 536EP modem
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> carlosqueso: lol, ty
[11:50] <pike_> maikie: ubuntu normally sets it up for you so after the install you have a choice at boot. just install ubuntu after xp
[11:50] <Mao> but I don't see anything regarding how to actual dial out
[11:50] <nootrope> Malachi: I used Goolge, searched for ubuntu right click apple and foiund this: http://felipe-alfaro.org/blog/2006/02/14/right-click-on-apples-powerbook-and-ubuntu-linux/
[11:50] <xst> I try to establish an ssh connection from my newly installed Feisty box but ssh is *really* slow to connect. It takes ages before it asks me about a password. Any ideas on what to do?
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: what type of connection do you have, dial up, or some sort of always on?
[11:51] <Mao> I tried searching, but I just get dead links to Gnome-PPP
[11:51] <carlosqueso> !dialup | Mao
[11:51] <ubotu> Mao: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[11:51] <SillyZ> heya, trying to use the simple backup config in ubuntu 7.04, but when I fire up the backup now, I get a sbackupd <defunct> process..... any ideas?
[11:51] <nigro> hello
[11:51] <Jowi> xst, if you try to connect by hostname, see if connecting by ip address is equally slow
[11:51] <nigro> Ive a question
[11:51] <IndyGunFreak> nigro: just ask
[11:51] <Mao> Yea, I tried both using Network and using Gnome PPP
[11:52] <Mao> but I can't hear my Modem dialing with the first, and I can't find Gnome PPP with the second
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> !diaoup
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about diaoup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <IndyGunFreak> !dialup
[11:52] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[11:52] <xst> jowi: I already connect by IP
[11:52] <nigro> any webcam well supported en ubuntu?
[11:52] <nigro> any webcam well supported in ubuntu?
[11:52] <SillyZ> try adding a -M1 to your init string
[11:52] <nigro> :D
[11:52] <Jowi> xst, is the ping response slow as well?
[11:53] <SillyZ> the -M is generally the modem speaker, the value behind it is the volume level
[11:53] <TTT_Travis> Jowi OK, I did just try connecting to my PC monitor instead, no green tint, so maybe it is the TV or something? I use the same cable to connect to my cable box and it's fine though ;(
[11:53] <xst> jowi: nope. It's fast as lightning
[11:53] <Mao> Sorry I'm not using command Line, I'm trying to use the GUI in Admin-> Network
[11:54] <Mao> but I have volume set as Loud
[11:54] <n2diy> I just installed Korganizer on to my Dapper box, I imported my .ics file from my FC1 box, and everything looks ok, but my appointment alarms, don't alarm?
[11:54] <Jowi> TTT_Travis, does not sound too good. don't know what to check. maybe you've got some input connection options on the TV such as RGB or others.
[11:54] <hamb> anyone here have experience setting up MX1000 in Feisty?
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> hamb: mx1000?
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> is that a video card?
[11:55] <hamb> logitech mouse
[11:55] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok.
[11:55] <hamb> i've tried the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse#head-fdc89e0dba3e40d00ab6cd56e1298fb052931e45
[11:55] <hamb> but i also have a logitech wireless keyboard
[11:55] <Jowi> xst, are you trying to connect inside a LAN or via internet?
[11:56] <SillyZ> Simple backup config, when trying to do a backup of the system, I hit backup now, and end up with a defunct sbackupd process..... anyone?
[11:56] <hamb> so i have 3 devices named "Logitech USB Receiver"
[11:56] <xst> Jowi: Inside LAN
[11:56] <MKS> I need to change permissions on  a file: how to do that?
[11:56] <nigro> anyone know what webcam are well supported?
[11:56] <SillyZ> chmod rwxrwxrwx filename
[11:56] <MKS> I need to change permissions on  a file: how to do that? can I somehow do it in a file mgr?
[11:56] <kraft> HI all ! It the first time i try Linux and ubuntu and so far everything is ok(with some googling).But i have one problem i cannot solve.I m connecting to the internet with a wireless card and while i can surf and download with max speed,i cannot use torrents.Everytime it starts to download and then i loose my connection.Any tips? I already tried sudo ethtool -k wlan0 but nothing... :(
[11:56] <SillyZ> depending on what permissions ya want on it
[11:56] <Jowi> xst, do you have other computers on the LAN and if so, do they connect fine with ssh? My first hunch is that the router is misbehaving.
[11:57] <SillyZ> its owner, group, and other in that order for permissions
[11:57] <SimAtWork> kraft: are you using a router?
[11:57] <kraft> yes
[11:57] <Ryan__> thanks everyone
[11:57] <Ryan__> Im gonna go for now
[11:57] <Ryan__> see ya later
[11:57] <SimAtWork> kraft: then you need to forward some ports and define what ports those are in the torrent app.
[11:57] <xst> Jowi: the other hosts connects just fine. Its just this box that has a problem
[11:57] <Ryan__> Peace
[11:57] <SimAtWork> kraft: torrents should work without this... but they'll be super slow
[11:58] <p1ls> hello
[11:58] <Jowi> xst, does a router restart make any difference?
[11:58] <robot13> #siegetheday
[11:58] <xst> nope
[11:58] <p1ls> test
[11:58] <p1ls> te
[11:58] <SillyZ> speaking of torrents, how does one configure thunderbird to open a torrent with azureus rather than 'bit torrent' ?   I can get it to open azerus but it dosent open the .torrent file inside az ?
[11:58] <p1ls> tes
[11:58] <xst> Maybe it has something to do with this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/84899
[11:58] <kraft> i dont think i have problem with ports. When i download torrents,i loose my connection.I have to reconnect
[11:59] <Jowi> xst, did you try to disable the option that they talk about in the bug report so you know?
[12:00] <lil_cain> I'm running lshw, and it's flashing cpu and then IDE, and then stalling
[12:00] <lil_cain> doesn't do anything else
[12:00] <lil_cain> any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[12:00] <rapter> nead package name for adremove prog from application menu (pannel)
[12:00] <xst> Yes I have tried to disable it, but is doesn't help. Do I need to restart something in order for it to have effect?