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CoRnJuLiOxhey, i've got a little problem w/firefox. i just switched themes in xubuntu from whatever the default was to xfce4-dusk, and firefox ended up changing the backgrounds of all the websites i visit to black, and the text to white. now i switched it to another theme and the backgrounds are white, and the text is black, but none of the pages are the color they're supposed to be. any ideas?01:20
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CoRnJuLiOxlike IGN, for example, the navigation bar on the side is usually red, but its all white now.01:21
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BlueEaglecornjuliox: firefox shouldn't take themes from xubuntu as far as I know...01:23
viddCoRnJuLiOx, in the Edit>Preferences in firefox.....01:23
CoRnJuLiOxah bingo, i found it01:23
CoRnJuLiOxBlueEagle: it shouldnt, but it did :-/ anyways i got it working again.01:23
CoRnJuLiOxi wonder why that box was unchecked.01:24
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doennersometimes it happens that my xfce-panel "looses" elements, they disappear. I cant tell when or how this happens.01:41
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BFTDcouldn't stand touching them there01:57
BFTDoops01:57
BFTDdang01:57
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Jester45yuck, apache james  who would want to run a mail server in java02:05
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Jester45 /help list02:28
Jester45oops02:28
viddwhat is the command line method for blanking a cdrw?02:29
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cellofellow*whistles*03:36
vidd*wave* cellofellow03:37
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cellofellow :-)03:37
viddyou know the command to check the alt cd?03:39
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cellofellowvidd: how about check the md5sum03:42
cellofellowmd5sum /dev/cdrom03:42
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yesdup57002hi all.03:43
yesdup57002is there a way i can save this channel in pidgin so it automatically loads when i open up pidgin??03:45
Jester45yes,03:46
viddcellofellow, sorry...was on the other system....the network cable came out03:47
Jester45tell me what words are at the top of the window03:47
yesdup57002conversation and options03:47
Jester45yesdup57002, how about the buddy list window03:48
Jester45i think its the 3rd one03:48
yesdup57002sorted thanks.03:48
viddcellofellow, why not come to -offtopic?03:48
yesdup57002the buddies list is where i can add a channel but the window i,m typing in doesn't have abything other than conversation and options03:49
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Jester45yesdup57002, on the buddy list where it says add chat add something add something click add chat03:50
Jester45then make it03:50
Jester45then right click the new icon in the buddy list and check auto join03:50
yesdup57002done thanks a lot03:50
yesdup57002cool03:51
Jester45it would of been better if i new what the name od the menu was03:51
yesdup57002this was a night finding this place. well not finding but joining.03:51
yesdup57002oops nightmare sp03:51
yesdup57002i thought i had to sign up some where or register. couldn't find anything though took over an hour to figure out that if i put any username that isn't taken i get in.03:53
Jester45if its taken it gives you a secondary one automatically , llike for me its normally Jester4603:54
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yesdup57002Ok.03:54
Jester45yesdup57002, can you can register your name so nobosy can take it and you can then send private messages03:55
yesdup57002OK how?03:55
yesdup57002or where?03:55
Jester45you can register by typing /msg NickServ REGISTER passwordhere03:55
yesdup57002Thanks again.03:56
Jester45and, you might want to set up pidgin to automatically tell nickserv your pasword when you login03:56
Jester45i think its where you set your username03:57
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viddwb cellofellow03:58
cellofellow:)03:58
yesdup57002Will do that. thanks03:59
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yesdup57002can anyone suggest a good gtk shceduler (i presume just a front end for cron)04:03
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cellofellowyesdup57002: I'm thinking gcron, if that's what it's called. I never had much luck with that, just easier to use crontab.04:05
cellofellowgcrontab, that's it.04:06
cellofellow!gcrontab04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gcrontab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
cellofellow!info gcrontab04:06
ubotugcrontab: GTK bases crontab editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.0-3.1 (feisty), package size 79 kB, installed size 400 kB04:06
yesdup57002Ok. that seem to do the job thanks and that would be in the fiesty universe.04:13
cellofellowyes04:13
yesdup57002Nothing better lookin gtk2 maybe04:13
cellofellowyesdup57002: yeah, GTK1 is a little ugly.04:18
cellofellowyesdup57002: on the other hand, a lot of my favorite utility-apps like LinNieghborhood are written using it.04:18
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yesdup57002i want to be able to schedule shutdown each day. should i just use the 'halt" cmd04:20
cellofellowpoweroff works for me04:21
viddyesdup57002, why would you want to SCHEDULE a shutdown?04:21
yesdup57002cellofellow pyneighborhood is the update and looks prettier. same functionality04:22
cellofellowyesdup57002: one problem: doesn't work.04:22
cellofellowIt never actually mounts for me.04:22
yesdup57002you have change the permissoins for mount and umount04:23
yesdup57002i will find the instruction that got it working for me04:23
cellofellowI have to do that for LinNeighborhood too. Or something similar. I think the exact settings are different and that's why things go screwy. One can't have both programs.04:24
yesdup57002http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/11/xubuntu-browsing-samba-shares-with.html this worked for me04:24
cellofellowI know that page. Never actually worked for me.04:25
yesdup57002Ok.04:26
anthony_#ubuntu04:26
anthony_oops04:27
yesdup57002vidd: i dont use the PC during the night so why waste the electicity and add to the global warming. plus PC are suppose to be clever and should be able to handle this sort of request with easeo:-)04:28
cellofellowMy MoBo has some setting for booting when it recieves some sort of signal on the network card. I would love to figure out how to use that.04:29
viddyesdup57002, yes, the computer will be able to handle it with ease....but dont get me started on debunking the "global warming" myth!04:29
cellofellowgo vidd!04:29
yesdup57002OK. when i was at school they yuse to believe we were entring the next ICE AGE so go figure.04:31
viddbut i can understand you wanting to save 85cents a day on your light bill04:31
viddyesdup57002, ....i told ya....dont get me started....04:32
vidd=] 04:32
yesdup57002X 365 = new wireless card:)04:32
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yesdup57002Ok got to go but just quickly. is it possible to get nvidia driver working with acpi. if so then maybe another time i could get some help making them both co-exist04:34
viddit SHOULD work by default04:36
viddor are you talking about the proprietary driver?04:36
cellofellowthere's something on the Wiki about nvidia and acpi04:36
cellofellow!nvidia04:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:36
cellofellowI found it from there.04:36
yesdup57002Ok as long as someone has it working then theres hope. like i said maybe next time. Thanks all CHOw04:37
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coldsteali want to start ubuntu so its just a terminal05:35
coldstealand then i do startx05:35
tonyyarussoSure.  Just remove gdm from Runlevel 2.  (I personally prefer the cli tool sysv-rc-conf for doing so.)05:35
coldstealok05:36
coldstealis there a different way?05:36
coldstealdoesnt  sysv-rc-conf ask allot of questions05:36
tonyyarussoIt's just a grid of services and runlevels.  The GUI tool BUM works too.05:37
coldsteallol that was easy05:38
coldstealokay is there a way to remove the xfce boot screen05:38
coldstealand show whats happening05:38
coldsteali usually use slackware and if ppl know im using ubuntu im going to get shot05:39
coldsteallol05:39
tonyyarussoEdit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and remove the 'splash', 'quiet', or both options for the kernel line, depending on how much detail you want.05:39
tonyyarussohaha05:39
coldstealokay now what about when i shutdown05:41
coldstealhow do i remove the shutdown splash screen05:41
tonyyarussoThey'll be controlled by the same thing.05:42
coldstealok05:42
coldstealcool05:42
coldstealso now ppl cant tell :005:42
coldsteal*:)05:42
tonyyarussoUnless they look closer ;)05:42
coldstealo wont let them05:43
coldstealill say its debian05:43
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Catoptromancy!divx06:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:48
Catoptromancycant find a divx player06:55
Catoptromancycodecs i mean06:55
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PumpernickelCatoptromancy: Which media player?07:09
Catoptromancyjust a box in firefox07:10
Catoptromancysays plugin missing07:10
PumpernickelYou'd need a media player plugin for firefox, then.07:10
PumpernickelThere's a totem one, a vlc one, and I'm not entirely sure what else.07:10
PumpernickelIf you use the totem one, with the xine backend, the codec package would be libxine1-ffmpeg.07:11
Catoptromancygstreamer0.10-ffmpeg07:12
Catoptromancyi have this07:12
PumpernickelThat works if you're using totem-gstreamer.07:12
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Catoptromancythat wants to install alot of gnome libs07:14
PumpernickelIt is built to work with a gnome environment.07:19
CatoptromancyI guess nothing xfce?07:21
PumpernickelTotem-xine is a bit less gnome-specific.07:21
Catoptromancyopps07:21
Catoptromancyalready installed07:21
Catoptromancyheh aptitude installed 40 mbs07:23
Catoptromancyaptitude remove 14mbs07:23
CatoptromancyI use xfmeida07:23
Catoptromancymedia07:23
Catoptromancyso I guess xine is best one?07:24
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Catoptromancyits nearly the same libs anyway07:25
Catoptromancycool07:26
Catoptromancyworks07:26
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Catoptromancyvery cool07:35
Catoptromancyxfmedia once again plays it better than totem07:35
Catoptromancyhmm07:35
CatoptromancyI hate it when im forced to keep a program installed because of some libs07:37
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Catoptromancyworks in xfmedia, yet I cant remove totem player07:37
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yetnottrk var m?10:00
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Merchelo!hi10:54
ubotuHi! Welcome to #xubuntu!10:54
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[miles] good afternoon01:05
[miles] for some reason, the terminal has lost the abiltity to use the tab key to complete commands...01:05
[miles] does anyone have any idea what could have caused this please?01:05
[miles] ah got it01:09
[miles] works now..01:09
totalwormage:] 01:09
totalwormagewhat was it :p01:09
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jmega_how much free space i need to install?02:30
jmega_will a 2gd hdd be enough02:31
SmygisYes, It will be tight but it will fit.02:35
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jmegais there any kind of smaller version to fit on a 2gb hdd now using kubuntu thinking aboout xubuntu02:42
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Thirdyhello every103:28
Thirdyany1 played FF7 here b4?03:28
ThirdyIs there a way to translate Final Fantasy 7 International into English?03:30
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Woopahh_hello:D03:47
Woopahh_how do i remove the icons on the desktop?03:48
Woopahh_??03:50
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topcat1028hello, can somebody help me with my wireless card?03:52
Thirdyany recommendation for hex editor to change fonts?03:52
Woopahh_no one seem to care on this channel...03:53
Woopahh_i have asked how to remove the icons on my desktop many times now but no respons!03:54
Woopahh_and this is supose to be a "Official Xubuntu Support Channel"! lol03:55
topcat1028yeah this channel sucks... then if you ask the people in the regular ubuntu channel they send you here03:56
topcat1028no love for xubuntu03:56
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Catoptromancywell it is early in the morning03:58
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Woopahh_it's 16.00 im my country! thats 4pm im america:P04:06
Thirdyany good tutorials for hex editing?04:07
ThirdyIt's 10:15 here04:08
Thirdypm04:08
Woopahh_oh..04:08
Thirdyph04:08
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artabrahaoblz? como faco para instalar o ubuntu sem perder os dados?04:15
Smygisartabrahao, jag fattar inte vad du skriver.04:17
artabrahaosorry, How is possible reinstall ubuntu keeping the data files?04:18
Smygisif you have your /home om a separate partition all you need to do is to avoid formating it, Otherwise you have to back it upp somehow.04:19
Woopahh_inte jag heler:P04:19
SmygisDVD/CD/External harddrive and so on.04:20
Woopahh_noen fra norge her:P04:20
artabrahao<Smygis>  I cant backup because ubuntu is not startig, just in secure mode04:20
Catoptromancyartabrahao : I burned DVDs of all my hidden files in /home/04:21
Smygisartabrahao, boot up the liveCD then, Or find out why it wont start and fix it.04:21
Woopahh_what porgram is best suited for downloading?04:21
CatoptromancyI use aptittude04:22
CatoptromancyI jsut reinstalled yesterday04:22
SmygisWoopahh_, Download over what? Torrents? FTP? HTTP?04:22
artabrahaothis error appears when try to remove ou reinstall packages:  sub-process  /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) a package failed do install04:22
Catoptromancyartabrahao : ive never used dpkg,04:23
Catoptromancyapitude install things fine automatically04:23
Smygisartabrahao, try sudo apt-get -f install04:23
Woopahh_p2p... all mentioned above if possible;D im gonna use it to download mp3 files, the legal kind:D04:23
SmygisCatoptromancy, dpkg is the backend who actuly installs the files.04:24
SmygisEven if you use aptitude04:24
Catoptromancyya04:24
CatoptromancyI like being lazy about04:25
Woopahh_should i use frostwire or aMule?04:25
SmygisTry and see what you like most.04:26
Woopahh_hummm.... ok:D is frostwire runing on java btw?04:28
SmygisYes04:29
Woopahh_ok...04:29
Woopahh_what about aMule?04:29
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artabrahaohow can I see all php packages installed?04:41
TheSheepdpkg -l | grep php04:42
artabrahaoor remove all php pakages installed?04:42
TheSheepapt-get remove .*php.*04:42
artabrahaotks04:43
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artabrahaowhen removing or installing a package appears xxx segmentation fault  stty05:10
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artabrahaowhen removing or installing a package appears xxx segmentation fault  stty -a 2>/dev/null05:10
TheSheepartabrahao: that's bad, try aptitude instead of apt-get05:10
artabrahaois aptitude05:11
artabrahaowhy this error?05:12
DeviadHello, can anyone pls tell me how to let the touchpad of a macbook pro 15" work with kernel 2.6.20.11?05:13
DeviadIt just does not work. I tried doing cat /dev/psaux, cat /dev/input/mouse1, mouse2 etc and I get no response05:13
TheSheepartabrahao: no idea, it usually means an error in the code of the application or some library -- considering that we don't have hundreds of users reporting that error, it's possible that somethng on your system is corrupted...05:14
TheSheepDeviad: have you looked at the forumes? I'm sure there are some mac users there05:14
artabrahaomaybe, and how fix it? How reinstall the system?05:15
TheSheepartabrahao: you'd first need to know what part is broken. what do you do exactly and what are the messgaes? can you pastebin them somewhere?05:16
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artabrahaothe message appears when I try do remove or reinstall any package05:16
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artabrahaobut the thinks is terrible but the gnome is working now, it helps?05:21
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TheSheepartabrahao: the actual messgaes would be more helpful05:25
TheSheepartabrahao: seems like some postinstall script fails05:25
TheSheepartabrahao: we need to know which package the script is for05:26
artabrahaohow?05:26
TheSheepartabrahao: dpkg --configure -a05:26
TheSheepartabrahao: that shoudl attempt to continue from the last error05:27
TheSheepartabrahao: and write which packages it is trying to uninstall05:27
SmygisCopy-paste05:27
TheSheep!pastebin05:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:28
godless!w32codecs05:32
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:32
godless!codecs05:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:32
godlesshow do I add a user to the sudo group?05:43
TheSheepgodless: system->users and groups05:44
TheSheepgodless: and check the checkbox05:45
godlessTheSheep:  How 'bout with the CLI?05:45
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helpmehello05:46
helpmehow do i add/remove software icons in my xfce menu bar?05:46
helpmethe applications bar05:46
TheSheepgodless: add him to the 'admin' group05:46
godlessTheSheep:  Riiight. Thanks.05:46
asmith42ahelpme: Right-click > remove?05:46
TheSheephelpme: right-click on the panel, select 'add new item', then select launcher05:47
godlesshelpme:  Do you want to edit items within the menu, or the panel?05:47
helpmewithin the menu05:47
TheSheephelpme: settings->menu editor05:47
helpmei want to remove the Winamp icon from my applications list05:47
asmith42ahelpme: Oh, I see. Sorry.05:47
helpmebut in the menu editor i dont know how to access the applications list05:47
TheSheephelpme: are you sure you're running xubuntu?05:47
godlessright click on the applications menu -> properties -> edit menu05:47
TheSheephelpme: there is no winamp for linux05:48
helpmeyeah05:48
helpmei installed it using Wine05:48
TheSheepouch05:48
helpmenow i want to remove it from the Others window05:48
helpmethe winamp icon05:48
TheSheephelpme: there will be a winamp.desktop file in your ~/.share/applications/wine directory05:48
TheSheephelpme: you can edit that file (it's text) to move the icon to otherp lace, or just delete it to remove it from the menu05:49
helpmewhere can share be found?05:49
BFTDright click05:49
BFTDremove05:49
TheSheephelpme: open your file manager, and enable displaying of hidden files and directories05:50
TheSheephelpme: in the 'view' menu05:50
TheSheephelpme: then you should see the .share directory05:50
helpmewhere is it exactly?05:50
helpmein the wine folder?05:50
helpmemy home folder?05:50
TheSheephelpme: in your home directory05:51
TheSheephelpme: sorry, it's .local/share05:51
helpmeok thanks05:51
helpmecool it worked05:51
helpmethanks05:51
TheSheep:)05:52
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artabrahaowhat is dbus system service?06:02
Merchelo!dbus06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
TheSheepartabrahao: it allows the various applications to communicate with themselves06:06
TheSheepartabrahao: for examle, when you start a new copy of thunar, it doesn't really start a new copy -- the binary you start only uses dbus and tells the already running copy of thunar to open new window, then finishes06:07
TheSheepartabrahao: it also allows different applications to cooperate better06:08
artabrahaohow is possible you know a lot of thinks about this?!06:12
TheSheepartabrahao: I used it several times in my programs06:12
TheSheepartabrahao: see http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/IntroductionToDBus?highlight=%28dbus%29 for details06:12
artabrahaoand Can I reinstall dbus?06:13
TheSheepartabrahao: apt-get install --reinstall dbus06:14
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Merchelo!info FairUse4WM06:25
ubotuPackage fairuse4wm does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:25
godlessdid w32codecs get taken off medibuntu or something?06:27
artabrahaothere are several errors during the boot, is these errors in log? Where Can I find it?06:27
godlessstill listed at http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/packages.php but I can't seem to install it06:28
TheSheepartabrahao: try running dmesg | less06:28
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hyper_chgodless: you could use Seveas' repo for the w32codecs06:35
Catoptromancyhmmm06:36
Catoptromancyseems I used to be able to aptitude w32codecs06:37
TheSheep!feisty-seveas06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about feisty-seveas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:37
TheSheep:/06:37
hyper_ch!seveas06:37
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:37
godlesshyper_ch:  I added it but it still won't come through apt-get06:38
godlessweurd06:38
godlessI'm wgetting the .deb06:38
artabrahaowhen I type df -h appears segmentation fault06:38
godlessI don't know why apt-get isn't installing it06:38
SwarthmoreDB/info06:38
hyper_chgodless: well, how about an error?06:39
TheSheepartabrahao: check your memory and disks06:39
Catoptromancyhttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/06:39
Catoptromancydoing this worked06:39
artabrahaois chter a command to repair o check the disks06:40
artabrahao?06:40
godlessE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate06:40
godlessARHGRJGKHF06:40
hyper_ch!info app-install-data-commercial06:40
ubotuapp-install-data-commercial: Application Installer (data files for commercial applications). In component main, is optional. Version 7.1 (feisty), package size 7 kB, installed size 72 kB06:41
godlesswell I have the .deb here. How do I install from that06:41
godless?06:41
godlessdpkg something something?06:41
Catoptromancy.deb is just click06:41
godlesscan I point apt-get at the .deb?06:41
hyper_chgodless: fix first your repos06:41
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godlessThe repos are fine.. :/ I am using this sources.list on many boxen06:41
godlessCatoptromancy:  I am ssh'd in06:41
artabrahaois there a command to repair or check the disks?06:42
hyper_chwell, I meant the installed packages... w32codecs are in the repos and if you can't install them then there is a problem06:42
TheSheepartabrahao: yes, fsck, but you need to unmount them first or at least remount read-only06:42
TheSheep!fsck | artabrahao06:43
ubotuartabrahao: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot06:43
godlesshyper_ch:  Any idea what this problem might be? I am stumped...06:43
godlessit just says no installation candidate... but I know it's there06:43
godlessand apt-get update shows the seveas repo getting updated06:43
godlesseven other stuff worked like libdvdcss06:44
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hyper_chgodless: hmmm, first I'd try:    sudo apt-get check06:44
hyper_chgodless: then:    sudo apt-get build-dep06:44
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godlesshyper_ch:  E: You must specify at least one package to check the builddeps for06:45
hyper_chforget the second one if you don't use source packages06:45
godlesscheck ran cleanly06:45
hyper_chgodless: sudo apt-get install w32codecs06:46
godlessno installation candidate06:46
hyper_chapt-cache search w32codecs06:47
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godlesshyper_ch:  no output06:48
hyper_chgodless: apt-cache search w32codecs06:48
godlessI've even emptied sources.list except for seveas06:48
godlesshyper_ch:  no output06:48
godlessrob@static:/etc/apt$ apt-cache search w32codecs06:49
godlessrob@static:/etc/apt$06:49
hyper_chgodless: pastebin your repos06:49
hyper_choh, are you using 64-bit?06:49
godlessyes!06:50
hyper_chthere we go06:50
godless?06:50
godlessno w32 for 64bit?06:50
hyper_chwell, it's win32 and not win6406:50
godlessindeed06:50
hyper_chso I tend to think they won't work06:50
hyper_chgodless: you may want to ask seveas about that06:50
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godlessis their a replacement for 64bit systems to run streaming video etc?06:51
hyper_chno clue... don't have a 64bit processor06:51
godlessme neither, 'helping' a friend :)06:51
artabrahaois the init.d/rc important? there are some errors06:52
hyper_chactually, having a look at the repos/package page at medibuntu will give you the answre ;)06:52
hyper_chartabrahao: what's the exact error?06:52
hyper_chgodless: actually, having a look at the repos/package page at medibuntu will give you the answre ;)06:52
DeviadCan anyone pls tell me what the best value for this is: ardcampa> LordFrith: anyway I wouldn't change from gentoo anyway. It still is the best OS for ME06:54
Deviad<LordFrith> If they had their compiler in python, I would agree.06:54
Deviad<LordFrith> hardcampa, have fun with your compiles. ?06:54
DeviadAlignment value to which kernel should be aligned (PHYSICAL_ALIGN) [0x100000]  (NEW)06:54
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logmeinhow do I take a screenshot?06:54
artabrahao<hyper_ch> is too fast to read06:54
hyper_chartabrahao: without the error message I can't tell06:55
hyper_chlogmein: hmmm, with a script an the imagemagick library06:55
artabrahaoline 82: 1953 segmentation failure06:57
logmeinhyper_ch: yeah I got imagemagick but having trouble working on a script? anyway I can hotkey it to print scrn?06:57
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hyper_chlogmein: http://phpfi.com/24030207:01
hyper_chgodless: found it?07:01
godlesshyper_ch:  got it sorted, using mplayer and ignoring codecs altogether :)07:02
godlessseems amd64's a bit of a pain07:02
godlessworking on nspluginwrapper so he can have flash in firefox now07:02
hyper_chgodless: you just to read whats on that page... what packages are available for the amd6407:02
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godlesshyper_ch:  Aye, thanks.07:04
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logmeinhyper_ch: umm what is that?07:05
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hyper_chlogmein: some instructions.... not cleanly shown out but I'm sure you'll figure out07:05
logmeinhyper_ch: where is this command shortcut section it speaks of?07:08
hyper_chlogmein: it says it there07:09
logmeinohhh I see07:09
hyper_chlogmein: that's good :)07:12
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logmeinhyper_ch: anyway to make thunar not open on /usr/bin automatically?07:15
hyper_chlogmein: dunno what you mean...07:15
logmeinhyper_ch: well when I created that shortcut it wanted to find where script was at and thunar opened on /usr/bin with a huge lag because of all the files07:17
hyper_chlogmein: I don't know what you did... for me it works that way07:17
Catoptromancythunar from a launcher button?07:18
Catoptromancylogmein : I have thunar on a launcher button, all I did was in command line path,  /home/desktop/07:19
Catoptromancyit could probably open anywhere with /path/path/path07:20
TheSheepanybody knows why there are no rt2400 wireless modules in fesity's kernel?07:22
TheSheepand where to get them easily ;)07:22
hyper_chTheSheep: upgrade your chip to rt2500 ;)07:22
TheSheephyper_ch: no such module either07:23
hyper_chTheSheep: there is...07:23
hyper_chTheSheep: at least my rt2500 chip runs out of the box07:23
TheSheephyper_ch: on feisty?07:23
hyper_chyes07:23
hyper_chhyper@xubi:/boot/grub$ lspci | grep RT207:24
hyper_ch00:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)07:24
hyper_chdoes that help?07:24
TheSheephyper_ch: lsmod | grep rt250007:25
hyper_chTheSheep:07:25
hyper_chhyper@xubi:/boot/grub$ lsmod | grep rt250007:25
hyper_chrt2500                178276  107:25
TheSheephyper_ch: can you check from which package you have your /lib/modules/<your kernel>/kernel/driver/net/wireless/rt2500.ko ?07:26
hyper_chTheSheep: there was one kernel in feisty where the rt2500 wasn't working... I think it was the -11 one07:27
TheSheep:/07:27
TheSheepnow I need to boot windows07:27
hyper_chhyper@xubi:/boot/grub$ apt-file search rt2500.ko07:28
hyper_chlinux-image-2.6.20-15-386: lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00-legacy/rt2500/rt2500.ko07:28
hyper_chlinux-image-2.6.20-15-generic: lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/wireless/rt2x00-legacy/rt2500/rt2500.ko07:28
hyper_chis in the kernel package07:28
hyper_chTheSheep: otherwise I don't know what you mean07:28
TheSheephyper_ch: I don't have the modules for rt2400 or rt250007:28
TheSheephyper_ch: actually, the net/wireless/ directory is very poor compared to the 2.6.15 kernel07:29
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logmeinTheSheep: ah crap I hated when I had to install rt drivers, it was when I first tried using linux and I nuked my system completely07:30
hyper_chTheSheep: hmm, there are also 2400 files07:30
hyper_chTheSheep: http://phpfi.com/24030707:30
hyper_chTheSheep: I can give you the -15 and -16 generic drivers07:31
hyper_chTheSheep: if that is any help07:32
Catoptromancyi have rt250007:32
hyper_chwow... I'm amazed... the first time TheSheep needs help... ;) normally he is the all-knowing guru here07:33
Catoptromancymy whole wireless setup is literally less than 1 minute07:34
Catoptromancyheh ive had to it so many times I made a script07:34
TheSheephyper_ch: I'm not at my box :(07:34
hyper_chCatoptromancy: what setup?07:34
hyper_chTheSheep: shall I email the RTx files?07:35
TheSheephyper_ch: no, it won't fit other kernel version07:35
Catoptromancy2 drivers and a .inf07:35
hyper_chTheSheep: are kernels that picky?07:35
Catoptromancyndis .debs in same folder, with an 1 click installer07:35
hyper_chTheSheep: what kernel does that box have?07:35
hyper_chCatoptromancy: you have rt2500 chip and need ndis?07:36
Catoptromancyno my wireles is fine07:36
Catoptromancyim saying I have rt2500 in case someone needs it07:36
Catoptromancythe 3 driver files07:36
artabrahaowhere are the log located?07:37
TheSheephyper_ch: it worked without any ndiswrapper in dapper/edgy07:37
TheSheepartabrahao: in /var/log07:37
hyper_chTheSheep: well, my chipset has also worked fine in dapper/edgy/feisty07:38
hyper_chTheSheep: except for the .20-11 kernel....07:38
TheSheepok, I'll try with the -15 one in a moment07:38
hyper_chTheSheep: *thumbsup*07:39
artabrahao<TheSheep>  there are a lot of log files, with one I can past in pastebin?07:39
hyper_chTheSheep: what kernel is there right now?07:39
hyper_chartabrahao: the one you need ;)07:40
artabrahaoI think the best it the boot one, but I cant find a boot.log file07:41
hyper_chartabrahao: then try syslog07:42
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hyper_chTheSheep: any news?07:51
TheSheephyper_ch: talking to you from the newly installed xubuntu :)07:52
hyper_chTheSheep: newly installed??? I thought you're just going to add a new kernel07:53
TheSheepartabrahao: type 'dmesg', that's the boot log07:53
TheSheephyper_ch: that I did just now, but earlier I just installed it07:53
TheSheephyper_ch: I only had a dapper cd here, so I installed it and upgraded to gutsy07:53
hyper_chTheSheep: ah ok :) so the rt2400 works now?07:54
TheSheephyper_ch: seems the recent gutsy kernel doesn't have the rt2400 support either07:54
TheSheephyper_ch: yes, with a kernel from feisty07:54
hyper_chtold you: feisty rules ;)07:54
hyper_chbtw, how well does gutsy run?07:55
hyper_chon monday I hand in my master-thesis and then I'm up for experimenting again ;)07:55
TheSheephyper_ch: what subject?07:56
hyper_chTheSheep: The implementation of the UN-Convention on the Elimination of any Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) in Switzerland07:57
TheSheephyper_ch: social science?07:57
hyper_chTheSheep: but now I know I'll never write a doctoral thesis... those 70p took too much time... Law07:57
artabrahao<TheSheep> and how Can I put it in pastebin?07:57
TheSheepartabrahao: copy it and paste into the browser's textarea07:58
artabrahaobut via dmesg it is too long07:58
hyper_chartabrahao: dsmeg > output.txt07:59
hyper_chthen open the output.txt in a browser or mousepad07:59
hyper_chartabrahao: make ctrl-a --> ctrl-c07:59
hyper_chartabrahao: and then post it :)07:59
TheSheephyper_ch: 'a'?07:59
hyper_chTheSheep: ctrl-a --> mark all07:59
TheSheepah08:00
hyper_chTheSheep: don't tell me you didn't know?08:00
TheSheephyper_ch: I'm used to using screen08:00
hyper_ch!info screen08:00
ubotuscreen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 571 kB, installed size 980 kB08:00
hyper_chTheSheep: how?08:00
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TheSheephyper_ch: you run it in a terminal, then ctrl+a c creates a new 'virtual terminal, ctrl+a space switches them, etc.08:01
TheSheephyper_ch: that's why MS made ctrl+a spce delete all the text by default -- it was on purpose08:01
anthony_Can anyone here tell me where desktop themes are stored in xubuntu?08:01
hyper_chTheSheep: ah ok :) well, I know you can do some cool things with screen (at least that's what I've heard) but I never had a look at it08:01
hyper_chTheSheep: evil Remonders08:02
hyper_ch+d08:02
TheSheepanthony_: int your home directory in .themes or globally in /usr/share/themes/08:02
anthony_Okay, thanks, let me try that.08:02
TheSheephyper_ch: the coolest thing is that you can detach it, disconnect, then connect from another computer next day and continue your work08:02
hyper_chTheSheep: could you write a howto on doing those cool things?08:04
TheSheephyper_ch: there are lots08:04
hyper_chTheSheep: one that I can understand?08:06
anthony_Brand new to linux and xubuntu so pardon the question: why doesn't drag and drop work to move a folder to another directory?08:06
TheSheephyper_ch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen08:06
anthony_Better, how do I move folders from one directory to another?08:06
TheSheepanthony_: should work08:06
hyper_chanthony_: it should work but it also depends on the permissions of the files/folders involved :)08:07
hyper_chanthony_: what do you try to move where?08:07
TheSheepanthony_: what happens when you drag and drop a directory?08:07
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anthony_it just displays an animation of returning where it was originally, but it seems it's only doing that when I try to move a file to /usr/share/themes. maybe I don't have the right permissions for that.08:08
Xziteok... tonights question is why my install said "no kernel available from apt sources"?08:08
hyper_chanthony_: by my feelings I tend to think that this folder belongs to root and that you only have read/exec rights there08:09
anthony_TheSheep I made a themes folder in my home directory and I placed a theme into it. How do I use it from there now?08:09
TheSheepanthony_: it's '.themes'08:09
TheSheepanthony_: with a period in front08:10
hyper_chXzite: hmm, maybe you selected a wrong installation cd... like 64bit for a 32bit system08:10
anthony_Yep, I'll change it.08:10
hyper_chanthony_: a folder/file starting with a "." in linux is a hidden file/folder08:11
TheSheepanthony_: you can run thunar as root by typing 'gksu Thunar'08:11
hyper_chanthony_: so in thunar you will have to enable the option of showing hidden ones08:11
TheSheepanthony_: but careful with that08:11
Xzitehyper_ch: erm... i downloaded http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/feisty/release/xubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso and i'm not running a 64-bit system so it should be the right one...08:11
TheSheepXzite: did you test the cd fro defects?08:12
TheSheepfor08:12
anthony_TheSheep Okay, but that folder isn't hiding now that I put the period in front.08:12
XziteTheSheep: yes... didn't get any errors...08:12
anthony_Oh yes it is hidden now.08:13
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anthony_TheSheep now why can't I see the new theme in User Interface Preferences?08:14
TheSheepanthony_: you just need to unpack your themes there, they should appear eitheri n the user interface settings or in window manager settings (depending on the theme kind)08:14
TheSheepanthony_: is this a gtk2 theme or xfce theme?08:14
hyper_chXzite: hmmm.... is the problem with starting ubuntu at all or does it appear when you try to install it?08:14
Xzitehyper_ch: got it during the step "install base system"08:14
anthony_TheSheep xfce08:15
hyper_chXzite: that is strange... but for installation I'd rather download the alternate cd and not the desktop one08:15
TheSheepanthony_: then it's a theme for the window borders, and you change it in the window manager settings08:15
TheSheephyper_ch: it should work :/08:15
anthony_I have window manager open. I don' t see where I would change that setting.08:16
Xzitehyper_ch: perhaps i burned the alternate one, i know i downloaded both... lemme check...08:16
hyper_chTheSheep: I know it should work... but it doesn't - I just know quite some people have problems getting the desktop cd installed08:16
TheSheepanthony_: the first tab08:16
Xzitehyper_ch: it was the alternate one i ran it from...08:17
hyper_chXzite: ok... then try the desktop one ;)08:17
anthony_TheSheep sorry I had Window manage Tweaks open. I found the right place now, but I still don't see that theme.08:17
hyper_chXzite: but that error is really strange...08:18
artabrahao http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2474408:18
Xzitehyper_ch: aww... *screams in anger* you know how long it takes to install from a usb-cdrom... =P08:18
TheSheepanthony_: do you have a .themes/<theme name>/xfce4/themerc file?08:19
hyper_chXzite: nope... tell me, how long does it take? *g*08:19
artabrahaothere are  42949417.280000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 Is it bad?08:19
Xzitehyper_ch: this has been running for at least 3 hours =/08:19
anthony_TheSheep I don't know. where would it be08:19
TheSheepanthony_: in the .themes directory you just made08:20
hyper_chartabrahao: do you have a floppy disk?08:20
artabrahaonope08:20
hyper_chartabrahao: I mean floppy drive?08:20
TheSheepartabrahao: it means it failed reading from a diskette08:20
hyper_chXzite: what are 3h compared to a lifetime ;) sorry... I have no clue about that error... if the check cd didn't report any error it's really strange08:20
Xzitehyper_ch: i'm gonna try and run it with another drive and see what i get...08:21
Xziteafter this is completed...08:21
Xzitei got an option "continue without bla bla bla... only expert users bla bla bla"08:22
hyper_chXzite: ???08:25
hyper_chXzite: what exactely?08:25
TheSheephyper_ch: without kernel maybe? %)08:25
hyper_chTheSheep: don't ask me... you're the super guru here ;)08:26
Xzitehyper_ch: it bascially said that an experienced user could continue the install and fix the problem later on but that the system might not start correctly...08:26
hyper_chXzite: well, I have no clue08:26
Xzitehyper_ch: same here.. but i'll see what happens =)08:27
anthony_should my .themes directory be in my home directory or in /home/myusername?08:27
hyper_chXzite: well, I don't know how you want to run the system without a kernel...08:27
anthony_Also, after running Thunar as root, am I back to normal again once I close that window?08:28
Xzitehyper_ch: could have been a translation error, i have no clue...08:28
TheSheepanthony_: yes, only that one window is running as root08:29
TheSheepanthony_: it's the same08:30
artabrahaohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24746/ this is the error with aptitude or apt08:30
TheSheepanthony_: your home directory *is* /home/yourusername08:30
anthony_Okay, I see. It shows up differently when I'm running as root. confusing.08:30
TheSheepanthony_: ah, that's because root has his home directory somewhere else08:31
TheSheepanthony_: but you don't need root to copy to your home -- only to /usr/share/themes08:31
anthony_okay, that makes sense.08:32
anthony_my home direcctory is within root's home directory, right?08:32
hyper_chyes.... /home/YOURUSERNAME08:33
TheSheepartabrahao: I think you ran out of disk space on your installm,and that causes all the errors08:33
TheSheepanthony_: it's withing root directory, but nor ROOT'S HOME directory08:33
TheSheepanthony_: your home is /home/yournick, root's home directory is /root/, the 'root' directory is /08:34
anthony_Okay, whatever. I'm starting to figure it out.08:34
TheSheepanthony_: this is confusing because both the user and top of the filesystem ar called 'root'08:34
artabrahao<TheSheep>  there are 4GB avaliable in disk, where is installm?08:34
hyper_chartabrahao: 4g aren't much08:35
hyper_chartabrahao: do:   df -l   in a terminal08:35
TheSheepartabrahao: can you pastebin the result of 'df' ?08:35
TheSheephyper_ch: it's more than enough08:35
hyper_chTheSheep: not really :)08:35
godlesssure it is08:35
godlessYou will need another partition for all your wAREZ and pr0n, of course.08:36
TheSheephyper_ch: my first hard disk drive had 20MB08:36
hyper_chwell, I have already used 4.5 GB of my root dir (out of 30gb available)08:36
hyper_chTheSheep: my first computer didn't have a harddrive08:36
TheSheephyper_ch: that too08:36
hyper_chTheSheep: 2x 5 1/4 floppies with 512kb ram and black/green screen08:37
TheSheephyper_ch: 2x? hah, you were lucky!08:37
hyper_ch16mhz if I remember correctly08:37
TheSheephyper_ch: I bet they also were HD08:37
hyper_chTheSheep: I don't remember08:37
TheSheephyper_ch: I had a single 5.25" DD drive (360kB per disk)08:37
hyper_chTheSheep: but I played Ports of Call there :)08:37
hyper_chTheSheep: I think I had HDs08:38
artabrahao<TheSheep> appears segmentation fault08:38
TheSheephyper_ch: they were whooping 720kB08:38
hyper_chartabrahao: do in a termiminal:     df -l     and pastebin the output08:38
TheSheepartabrahao: you're using lvm?08:38
hyper_chTheSheep: you remember Ports of Call?08:38
TheSheephyper_ch: never heard of it08:38
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artabrahao<TheSheep> whtat is lvm?08:39
TheSheepartabrahao: logical volume management08:39
TheSheep!lvm08:39
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO08:39
hyper_chTheSheep: no? It was a ship simulation game... you start with some money.. buy some ship... repair it... ship goods around the oceans... avoid storms and icebergs....08:39
hyper_chTheSheep: earn money.... buy better ships....08:39
TheSheephyper_ch: I played Wolfpack08:39
hyper_chTheSheep: most money you got from San Francisco to Karachi shippings arms and weapons08:40
artabrahaoWhen I type !lvm appears event not found08:40
TheSheepartabrahao: that's not a command, I just wanted ubotu to show you a link08:40
anthony_TheSheep the folder that I placed into the .themes directory is named Aqualooks-0.1.0. It contains a bunch of files and a folder named Themes which contains Makefile.am and Makefile.in and 3 folders with the names of three themes. Each of those folders contains a Gtk-2.0 folder with a single file inside. Is that the way it's supposed to be and have I put it in the right place?08:41
hyper_chTheSheep: the first Amiga Version in 198608:41
TheSheepartabrahao: try 'lvm lvs'08:42
TheSheepanthony_: no, you have downloaded some sources, you only want the contents of the 'Themes' directory in your .themes08:42
anthony_Okay. Thanks.08:43
TheSheephyper_ch: I was 6 years old then08:43
hyper_chTheSheep: well, that was when it was released...08:43
hyper_chTheSheep: but I think I played it a few years later08:43
hyper_chso, I'm "off" now :)08:44
TheSheephyper_ch: I think I got the first pc in nineties08:44
anthony_TheSheep So I should put the contents of the themes directory into .themes, including or not including the two Makefiles?08:44
artabrahao<TheSheep>  no volume groups foung08:44
artabrahao<TheSheep>  no volume groups found08:44
TheSheepanthony_: the 'gtkrc' files should go to .themes/<name of the theme>/gtkrc08:44
TheSheepanthony_: and all other files accordingly08:45
TheSheepanthony_: ignore any files in directories above that08:45
TheSheepartabrahao: ok, so you're not using lvm08:45
artabrahao<TheSheep>  and now?08:46
TheSheepartabrahao: it should appear in the user interface menu08:47
TheSheephyper_ch: found this: http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html08:47
anthony_The Sheep Okay, the way the gtkrc files are now is .themes/nameoftheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc. So what I should do is remove the gtkrc file from the gtk-2.0 folder and put it into .themes/name of theme, right or wrong?08:48
TheSheepanthony_: ah, no, it's good now08:48
TheSheepanthony_: sorry, forgot about the gtk-2.0 directory08:48
hyper_chTheSheep: thx08:48
artabrahao<TheSheep> but I cant install in terminal mode08:48
TheSheepartabrahao: sorry, I confused you with anthony_ :)08:49
TheSheepartabrahao: check your disks, it seems that your installation is heavily corrupted08:49
TheSheepartabrahao: backup any important data and do a reinstall08:49
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anthony_TheSheep Sorry to pester you so much. So should it look like this: .themes/nameoftheme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc?08:52
TheSheepanthony_: yes08:53
TheSheepanthony_: and no problem :)08:53
TheSheepanthony_: if you copied them as root, make sure you have the read permissions08:54
anthony_Okay, they're showing up in User Interface Preferences now. They are aqua-look themes, and it looks like they don't affect anything that the window manager handles, is that right?08:57
TheSheepanthony_: yes09:00
TheSheepanthony_: window manager has separate themes09:00
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anthony_Thanks for your help, TheSheep. So now I have another theme called Vistabut. It consists of nothing but a folder with all the png files for the theme in it. How do I use that?09:04
anthony_And why isn't there a standard format for these things so they are usable by new users?09:05
TheSheepanthony_: no idea, there is no themerc or gtkrc file in there?09:06
TheSheepanthony_: mybe it's not a gtk2/xfwm theme?09:06
anthony_would the themerc or gtkrc file be in the same directory with all the graphics files?09:07
anthony_I downloaded it and the others from kfcelook.org, I believe.09:08
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artabrahao<TheSheep> is there a way to reinstall keeping the data?09:10
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anthony_TheSheep what is the name of the app i should use to unarchive a package ending with .rpm?09:18
TheSheepanthony_: best avoid it, the installer is called 'alien', but it's better to find a deb or compile your own and make a deb09:19
pbouige /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER09:21
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anthony_I was disconnected for a little. Did TheSheep answer my last question?09:22
TheSheep21:19 < TheSheep> anthony_: best avoid it, the installer is called 'alien', but  it's better to find a deb or compile your own and make a deb09:23
anthony_TheSheep  and a deb is what?09:24
TheSheepanthony_: the package format used by debian and its derivatives, ubuntu and xubuntu included09:24
anthony_How will I recognize it?09:24
TheSheepanthony_: it ends with .deb09:25
TheSheepanthony_: and is often called 'debian package'09:25
anthony_All right thanks.09:25
TheSheepanthony_: what do you want to install09:25
TheSheep?09:25
anthony_A typing program for students.09:25
anthony_tuxtype09:26
TheSheepanthony_: there is klavaro in the repos, pretty good09:26
TheSheepanthony_: tuxtype is also availably in the repositories09:26
TheSheepanthony_: just use synaptic09:26
TheSheep!info tuxtype09:26
ubotutuxtype: Educational Typing Tutor Game Starring Tux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.6.dfsg1-3ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 59 kB, installed size 208 kB09:26
TheSheep!info klavaro09:26
ubotuklavaro: A very flexible touch typing tutor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (feisty), package size 254 kB, installed size 1368 kB09:26
anthony_TheSheep I don't have an internet connection on the linux machine.09:26
hyper_chanthony_: sudo aptitude install tuxtype09:26
TheSheepanthony_: download the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com09:27
hyper_chanthony_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/09:27
anthony_I'll do that. Thanks.09:27
hyper_chanthony_: you need to get at least the required packages:09:27
hyper_chThe following extra packages will be installed:09:27
hyper_ch  libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 tuxtype-data09:27
hyper_chSuggested packages:09:27
hyper_ch  tuxtype-data-nonfree09:27
hyper_chThe following NEW packages will be installed:09:27
hyper_ch  libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 tuxtype tuxtype-data09:27
TheSheephyper_ch: they are also listed on the packages... page09:28
hyper_chTheSheep: oh ;) didn't know09:28
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leobloomhallo!09:32
leobloomwho can give me the link to the minimum installation of xubntu? (the one starting from an alternate cd and building eth up through the command line and an internet connection09:33
Jester45!iso09:33
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.09:33
Jester45just a second09:34
Jester45so you want the netinstall one?09:34
leobloomI think it was that09:34
leobloomI can't found it anymore, I have an edgy xubuntu alternate09:34
leobloomI've just added 256mb to my notebook and want to see if it goes faster09:35
hyper_ch!install | leobloom09:35
ubotuleobloom: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate09:35
hyper_chcheck out the installation link there... they have all sorts of installs09:35
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leobloomperfect09:36
leobloomI've found that page again =o) it's for ubuntu, the procedure will do well on xubuntu too right?09:36
leobloomthanks hyper09:36
hyper_chleobloom: yeah, should be the same09:37
test3rI'm having CUPS problems  =(  I added my printer, & it saw it & it was good. Then I tried to print from inkscape and it started to send a 11MB postscript thru the air - LoL so I tried to cancel it from the winblows box? The job wont go away09:37
anthony_TheSheep, when I rightclick on the deb package, the default application to open it with is "GDebi Package installer." is this correct?09:37
test3rlpstat shows nothing09:37
hyper_chleobloom: the only difference beteween the ubuntu versions are the desktop environment and default isntalled software09:37
hyper_chanthony_: yes it is09:38
leobloomso it'll do the trick =O) I haven't installed xubuntu for a while so I don't rmember differences anymore09:38
leobloomthanks a lot, I'm going to try now09:38
hyper_chleobloom: the underlaying system is all the same... just the DE and default applications differ09:38
anthony_hyper_ch, it tells me: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libsdl-image1.209:38
hyper_chanthony_: then you need to install that first09:39
anthony_hyper_ch how do I do that?09:39
Jester45anthony_, then libsdl-image1.2 isnt in the repo but its called libsdl-image in the repo so install  that09:39
anthony_Okay.09:39
hyper_chanthony_: download it09:40
anthony_Will do.09:40
test3rhow do i clear a CUPS que?09:40
test3rthe whole que is fine09:40
hyper_chanthony_: get all those:   libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsmpeg0 tuxtype tuxtype-data09:41
hyper_chtest3r: no clue... tried rebooting?09:41
hyper_chor disable cups and starting it again?09:41
anthony_hyper_ch sheesh.09:41
test3rthere we go ok ok i had to rebot the winblows box it seems. no i was able to cancel the job from the printers box.  now lets see if when i send a test page it says its sending it as job 1 or job 409:42
hyper_chanthony_: well... if you had internet on that computer apt-get, aptitude, adept, synpatic would take care of that...09:42
anthony_Yep. I know. as it is I have to download, transfer to flash drive, eject, plug into other machine, transfer, install. What fun.09:43
test3rit says its job 4. but i hear my printer getting ready.09:43
hyper_chtest3r: dunno... my printer works fine when I tell him to print something09:44
hyper_chtest3r: it's neatly attached to the router :)09:44
test3rits just sitting at 64k09:44
test3rim printing thru SAMBA and winblows shared printer09:45
test3rthis is what it did last try- it sent first 64k then it was like - J/K09:45
test3rer, Trying to print. it's not doing much of anything.09:46
test3rmaybe my driver neds switch. there is a 1300 and a 1310 and mine is lik the 1325 or something perhaps i try root driver09:47
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emdashwhoever maintains the pida package did not include the documentation09:56
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felicianohi there09:56
Jester45hi09:56
felicianoI upgrade xfce to 4.4.1 and I miss my device icons at the desktop09:57
felicianoDo you know How can I got them?09:57
emdashyes09:57
emdashbut i can't remember09:57
emdashhang on09:57
hyper_chsettings --> desktop setting --> the other tab...09:59
Jester45then check the boxes on what you want09:59
felicianohyper_ch, Jester45... that options isnt at xfce 4.4.109:59
hyper_chfeliciano: well... hmm... then I don't know10:00
felicianothanks... I hope emdash remember10:00
Jester45it should have that10:01
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TheSheepfeliciano: I have installed 4.4.1-2ubuntu1 and it has these options10:01
hyper_chright-click the destkop --> desktop settings --> behaviour10:01
felicianoTheSheep... I upgrade xfce 4.4.1 ... what's that of 4.4.1-2ubuntu??10:02
TheSheepfeliciano: a package version and build number from the ubuntu repositories10:03
felicianohyper_ch.. I dont have xfce 4.4.0, thats options doesnt appear now10:03
hyper_chthen get 4.4.0 ^^10:04
felicianoTheSheep ... I dont know, I just download the graphic installer version and follow the instructions from xfce.org10:04
TheSheepfeliciano: just get an ubuntu build, not some 3rd party packages10:04
felicianoTheSheep ... I dont understand... You mean I upgrade it bad??10:05
felicianoTheSheep where can I get a ubuntu build??10:06
TheSheepfeliciano: from the gutsy repositories10:07
felicianommmm10:07
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TheSheepfeliciano: installing unsupported packagehges not prepared by the ubuntu team is obviously not supported10:07
felicianoyou are using gutsy... thats the diference10:07
TheSheepfeliciano: it uses xfce 4.4.110:07
felicianoOk...10:07
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felicianoAnd then.. How can I upgrade to gutsy??10:08
felicianoTheSheep10:08
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TheSheepfeliciano: well, I just edited /etc/apt/sources.list and replaced all 'fesity' with 'gutsy', then did apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, resolved the dependency conflicts that remained, and it's done10:09
TheSheepfeliciano: keep in mind that gutsy is still in alpha, not nearly finished10:09
felicianook... I thinks is better downgrade to 4.4.0 and wait to gutsy :D10:10
TheSheepfeliciano: it will be released in October10:10
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felicianoTheSheep thanks for your help10:10
TheSheephyper_ch: watch out for your wireless10:10
hyper_chTheSheep: why?10:11
hyper_chI'm more worried about grub ;)10:11
TheSheephyper_ch: rt2400 et all ;)10:11
hyper_chi have 2500 ;)10:11
emdashfuck10:13
emdashmy battery died10:14
emdashfor future reference: open thunar, edit -> preferences10:14
emdashselect advanced10:14
TheSheep!language | emdash10:14
ubotuemdash: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:14
TheSheep:)10:14
emdashclick "enable volume management"10:15
TheSheepemdash: besides, feliciano is gone already and this is not what he meant, but I can thank you in his name10:15
emdashwhat did he mean then?10:16
TheSheepemdash: desktop settings->behavior->show icons for...10:16
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emdashTheSheep: you don't get icons for removable devices if you don't have volume management enabled though, do you?10:18
TheSheepemdash: I do10:19
emdashokay10:19
emdashnever mind then10:19
Merchelothanks dud3s10:19
Mercheloi gotz a job10:19
TheSheepemdash: volume management is rather for running programs when you connect/insert devices10:19
emdashhm10:20
emdashmakes enabling it kinda silly then10:20
emdashsince i have all the options unchecked10:20
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artabrahaois possible install a ubuntu without format?10:20
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TheSheepartabrahao: yes, although you never know if th old installattion won't interfere10:21
TheSheepartabrahao: luckily, all your data files should be only in your home directory10:21
emdashthat's why i keep separate partitions for /home10:21
emdashyou only need about 7 gigs for / anyways10:21
emdashor rather, I only need10:21
TheSheepemdash: 7 gigs??? do you have all the packages from all versions of ubuntu installed???10:22
=== hyper_ch has assigned a few more gigs than 7 for root ;)
emdashTheSheep: it leaves room for /tmp and /var to grow10:22
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Jester45i got 10gb for /10:22
artabrahaotk10:22
artabrahaotks10:22
hyper_chI think I have 3010:22
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emdashTheSheep: i used to allocate 4, but i'd start running out of space10:22
TheSheepemdash: amazing10:23
hyper_chemdash: if you burn a dvd with k3b it does by default store the temp data in /tmp  ;)10:23
Jester45and gnomebaker10:23
TheSheepemdash: I have 3GB and never run close to full except for the updates10:23
emdashright now i think / is only using 1.2gb, but it will grow10:24
Jester45i got a 10gb / and i have 6.5 left10:24
TheSheephyper_ch: doesn't k3b have an option to burn in fly?10:24
emdashi just installed 7.0410:24
emdashso i haven't yet got around to filling my hard drive with crap10:24
hyper_chTheSheep: I think it has... but I never check that10:24
Jester45it does10:25
hyper_ch--> /dev/sda3             28834744   4587568  22782452  17% /10:25
Jester45qdvdauthor also uses /tmp to store data10:25
Jester45for both encoding and burning10:25
emdashi usually use mkisofs and cdrecord10:25
emdashbut that's just me =)10:25
hyper_chbut then... I have plenty of space anyway ;)10:26
emdashi should try xfburn sometime though10:26
Jester45no not xfburn it pretty bad10:26
emdasho yeah?10:26
Jester45it scraped 2 of my dvd rw s10:26
emdashthat's a shame10:26
hyper_chscraped?10:27
emdashwell cdrecord has taken many of mine as burnt offerings =)10:27
Jester45yea while blanking it errored and i cant unerror that part now10:27
emdashusually as a result of command line impiety10:27
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Chikubuhi pplz10:28
emdashdoes xfburn use cdrecord as a backend?10:28
Chikubune1 running xbuntu on SLOOOooower macnhine?10:28
emdashfor me cdrecord doesn't work unless I use driveropts=burnfree10:28
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emdashwhich makes the machine noticably laggy10:28
hyper_chJester45: use gnomebaker... it can delete that stuff and make it usable again10:28
Jester45i do use gnomebaker10:29
emdashi'll say one thing about mac os x, you can burn cd-rw's at full speed while compiling software even on a crappy little ibook10:29
Jester45whats hard about burning at full speed10:29
emdashmy htinkpad seems to have an issue with that10:30
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emdashobviously the faster you burn the easier it is to get a buffer under-run10:30
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test31Whelp im hardwired my laptop to the LAN now, and it still doesnt want to print it seems. it sends the first 64K each time acording to the winbows print spool10:39
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test31hello?10:43
Jester45hi?10:44
test31hihi. it sayd i left but im here obviously10:47
test31its weird when u watch urself leavein a chan10:47
Jester45well... your test31 not test3r10:48
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Chikubune1 running xbuntu on SLOOOooower macnhine?11:29
Jester45yes11:31
Jester45its 400mhz 256mb ram11:32
Jester45TheSheep,  has a lot slow one running11:32
Chikubuhows it do?  i got even older11:32
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Chikubu48611:32
godless486 is probably pushing it a bit... maybe damnsmalllinux?11:33
Chikubui have 192 ram but right now bios sees only 12811:33
somerville32486mhz?11:33
godlessi48611:33
Chikubu486 chipset 100mhz11:33
godlessChikubu:  What do you want to do with the machine?11:34
godlessFor desktop use, web browsing etc you will find it pretty obsolete I think11:34
Chikubuwas gonna try dsl-n but was a hard install, machine has problems dead cd dead floppy11:34
Chikubuwas gonna use as wireless print server11:34
godlessbut you could turn it into a router/server etc...11:34
godlessyeah11:34
Chikubulight browsing11:34
godlessmaybe in lynx :)11:35
Chikubuhopefully run win95/98 windoz stuff11:35
Chikubuit boots 98 now, but is unstable, wanted more stability as print server11:35
Chikubugonna install linux by putting drive in another machine then transplant11:36
Chikubuwanted xubuntu's install perks, managefree space on partitions ect so i wouldnt have to spend ages getting eveything right11:36
godlesshttp://www.ipt.ntnu.no/~knutb/linux486/linux486.html11:36
Chikubu  thnx11:37
godlessxubuntu is probably not going to be much good on a 486 without a lot of tweaking, but you do have enough ram...11:37
Chikubujust has to sit there and print11:38
Chikubulook around web some be good11:38
Chikuburun the kids older win9598 games be excellant, but can boot to 98 if have to11:38
Chikubuotherwise im drilling lots of holes and running wire or buying wireless print server11:39
Chikubuprinter is wide format printer only place in house for room is in loft11:39
Chikubuease of install is why i wanna try xbuntu, dsl-n would need loadln or install in another box as cd's floopy is dead11:40
Chikubuloadlin11:40
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Chikubuguess ill try, if too slow fight with dsl-n, looked at monkey able to run on 386 but the being made in chez is odd11:42
TheSheepChikubu: I recently tried archlinux and it's pretty good on weak boxes -- and you can install it from any other runnung linux, including dsl or ubuntu11:42
TheSheepChikubu: but it requires a linux experience11:42
Chikubugetting the boot manager and partitioning right is the hang up for me, linux uses more than one partition some times, swap files ect11:44
TheSheepChikubu: well, if you have loads of ram you don't have to use swap11:44
Chikubumaybe ill use xubuntu to get it right and then step down to dsl-n11:44
TheSheepChikubu: there is a nice guide on partitioning11:45
TheSheep!partition | Chikubu11:45
ubotuChikubu: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter11:45
Chikubuhave problem getting bios to see all the ram right now, ill get around it eventualy11:45
Chikubumount i can do, just not sure what parts i need, there is a journaling partition too i think?11:45
TheSheepChikubu: I had a box that used two kinds of slots for the memory, but you could only use one kind at a time -- if yuo inserted ram in both, funny things happened11:46
Chikubuthat a chan command?11:46
Chikubu!partition | Chikubu11:46
TheSheepChikubu: yes11:46
TheSheep!bot | Chikubu11:46
ubotuChikubu: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:46
Chikubu!partition11:46
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter11:46
TheSheepChikubu: it won;t repeat itself too often though11:46
Chikubui have a wad of ram to try, i think i had it recognizing all once b411:47
Chikubucan only boot to linux from live cd atm11:48
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ibbi am getting the error E: (program folder) : unable to connect to `abiword12:14
ibbwhat does that mean?12:14
ibbthat is while trying to install a software package12:14
TheSheepibb: try 'sudo apt-get install abiword' in the terminal instead12:16
ibbtried but it is already installed, it is saying12:16
ibbabiword-gnome is already installed12:16
TheSheepyou don't see it in the menu?12:16
ibbi do12:16
ibbi have a compact flash as the HD12:18
TheSheepibb: so what's wrong?12:19
ibbit does not allow for upgrades of installs, even though it downloads the stuff12:19
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KtronIs there a way to make the xfce panel ~10 pixels short of full width? (or 1% or whatever)12:20
TheSheepKtron: no, you only have two options, full width or expenanded to the contents12:21
KtronTheSheep: hm... that's too bad... I'll have to look at the Task List item some more and see if I can tell it to not group as quickly, maybe that'll work instead12:22
TheSheepKtron: I think you can force the size of the task list instead12:22
TheSheepKtron: but not sure, not using it12:23
KtronTheSheep: just curious, what do you use?12:24
TheSheepKtron: pager and iconbox for the minimized apps12:24
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buliowould Xubuntu run quite well on a machine with 380MB ram, 533Mhz CPU and an integrated graphics (2mb agp)?12:25
TheSheepbulio: yes, very well12:25
bulioand its stable enough?12:26

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