[12:32] Okay, why the hell in 3.5.7 does switching from one desktop to another using hotkeys stick so much? [12:32] This is just getting irritating... === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44738.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@03-186.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] Wow, quanta+ is very unstable. === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] whats it doing? [12:58] Crashing. [12:58] wobbling. [01:01] All I want is a more GUI-ified emacs... [01:03] emacs in a Konsole doesn't suffice? ;) [01:05] anyone with kubuntu running thinkpad around? [01:07] me [01:07] apachelogger: [01:07] oh [01:07] lucky_lucas: can try a kopete plugin for me? [01:07] for sure [01:07] kopete / kde 4 ? [01:07] lucky_lucas: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kopete-thinklight/kopete-thinklight_0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [01:08] kopete from kde3 [01:08] cool [01:08] and if it works, I would be very pleased to keep it [01:08] the plugin should be able to use your flash light on incoming messages [01:08] lucky_lucas: of course can keep it :D [01:08] i know it was the only thing is miss from gaim [01:09] that's how I like it, make everyone happy ^_^ [01:09] crimsun: Not for everything. [01:09] dpkg [01:09] .. === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44738.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:10] a friend just send me a message but nothing happens [01:10] I should activate it ^ ^ [01:10] lucky_lucas: ye activated it? [01:10] lol [01:12] Me can't figure out how plugins configuration is done in kopete (shame on beers) [01:13] apachelogger: [01:13] now if I had an english kopete :D [01:13] sec [01:13] KDE_LANG=en_US [01:13] muahaha [01:13] settings -> configure plugins [01:13] can try in french if you want [01:14] me can't figure out where is configure plugins... [01:15] just have configure [01:15] configure shortcuts [01:15] and configure tool bar [01:15] lucky_lucas: got a plug as icon [01:15] lucky_lucas: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/tmp047.png [01:16] don't have such options ? [01:16] Oo [01:16] *wonder* [01:16] do you have the normal kde 3 kopete ? [01:16] yeah [01:17] lucky_lucas: you got the configure shortcuts menu? [01:17] yes [01:17] but not the global shortcuts [01:17] neither notifications [01:18] something's wrong with your kopete :P [01:18] lucky_lucas: go to configure shortcuts [01:18] ans search for plugins [01:20] lucky_lucas: are you in the settings menu of the kopete main widow, or a chat window's? [01:20] main window i guess [01:20] shame on me, was the window,......... [01:20] omg [01:20] :D [01:20] chat window [01:21] sorry i just come back from outise and had a few beers [01:21] it one o clock here [01:21] ^_^ [01:21] almost halfpast 2 it is [01:23] i have a warning, this device file is not writable talking a bout /proc/... light [01:23] I guess, i should put it as 777 === apachelogger needs to add a postinst script [01:24] lucky_lucas: what file? === apachelogger is wondering [01:24] /proc/acpi/ibm/light [01:24] don't get /proc/* permission lost on reboot? [01:24] that0s the file, i m setting it 777 [01:24] and i tell [01:24] yeah === apachelogger thinks that needs some modification to acpi [01:25] not necessary [01:25] waitinit works [01:26] yeah [01:26] but how does a user know what to do when this message pops up? [01:26] lucky_lucas: ever used the gaim thinklight? [01:26] yes [01:27] I know it because i know pretty well apci function of it [01:27] but for instance it just writes the file blabla is not writeable === apachelogger is wondering how to increase user experience [01:28] I don't know if it's enough feedback for you [01:28] lucky_lucas: yeah, at least I know it works :) [01:29] thank you i keep it [01:29] yeah [01:29] it's a good tool don't mess to port it on kopete / kde 4 [01:29] gotta talk to upstream about some sudo magic for permission [01:29] yeah [01:29] nice tool anyway [01:30] just add a init file in the deb [01:30] lucky_lucas: init file? [01:30] oh [01:30] good idea [01:30] copy a script that set the light to 777 in init.d [01:31] that's the only time you hace a "pervasive " access to sudo [01:33] me proud to help the kopete-thinklight devs ..... [01:34] I sais i'm lucky, Jjust open the notebook and someone comes with bleeding edge technos for me. [01:37] apachelogger: What philantropics ideas push you to develop packages for thinkpad, as you don't seem to own one [01:37] lucky_lucas: I didn't develop that one [01:37] just package :P [01:37] and I package right now everything packagable [01:40] hey cool [01:40] apachelogger: You made me happy I'll sleep well tonight [01:42] lucky_lucas: hehe :) [01:42] A thing i want to test, what happens if I use it with the light on === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44738.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:45] apachelogger: The plugins rocks, it even works when I have the light on before the message comes in and it let the light on [01:45] after the blink [01:46] apachelogger: thank you, is it available for gutsy or in feisty ? [01:48] lucky_lucas: will be available in gutsy [01:48] not yet in the repos though [01:49] ok, but since i have it know, I don't really care ^^ [01:49] -know + now [01:49] ^^ === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-58-124.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] apachelogger: thank you and good night, I need to sleep, will be back tommorow [02:01] kdepim is looking much better now === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.165] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180071071.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] down to 126 bugs now [02:16] and rising :) === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@02-153.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:34] omg [02:34] revu doesn't like me anymore [02:34] because I'm uploading too much :( [02:34] thinklight doesn't want to get up [02:35] hm [02:35] gotta go to bed [02:35] nini === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.22.182.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F760FC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JLP [n=jlp@84.52.174.5] has joined #kubuntu-devel === besonen_mobile [n=besonen_@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Daskreech [n=ubuntu@port0002-abm-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201-67-29-152.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4451f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:30] hey, we don't preload Konqueror ootb do we? [04:30] I guess we do === Daskreech smacks nixternal [04:36] does anyone know if Konqueror can be spatial? [04:36] Konqueror is special [04:39] did somebody go through and confirm all of the apport crash bugs for kdelibs? [04:40] Daskreech: I don't believe os [04:40] *so [04:40] crimsun: yeah someone is asking if you can turn on a mode like that. [04:41] I don't know why someone would want it, but no... [04:41] strange how some people keep complaining that KDe has too many options while so many people keep asking for more [04:41] crimsun: Me either. It soooo lends it self to practical jokes [04:41] can't please everyone. [04:43] *laughs* tell that to Bill [04:43] Bill who? [04:44] Gates :) [04:45] jeesh [04:45] he doesn't actually have very much to do with the strategic direction of the company [04:45] people enjoy assigning themselve and freakin' loco teams to damn bug reports [04:45] and have no clue wth is going on [04:45] yay, rich and ubuntu-chicago want alsa* bugs? Done! [04:47] hell no [04:47] too bad. [04:47] you're on fridge, thus you get bug. Livewithit. [04:47] :-] [04:48] does the apport bot thing or whatever go through and "Confirm" every apport bug report? [04:48] the retracer? [04:48] I don't get how all of these bugs are confirmed when all there is, is the traces and nothing else [04:48] ya, the retracer [04:49] yep [04:49] why does it "confirm"? [04:49] just because the retraces match up? [04:49] you'll need to see the spec [04:49] I guess so [04:53] ok, the spec says nothing about "confirming" though [04:55] ahh, so I am guessy the bug bot is buggy...and is assigning loco teams and people who have submitted one bug in their life as the person or people fixing it [04:55] guessy? wth is that....guessing [04:57] Evil Bot Ruined Popular Linux Distro [05:10] hehe [05:12] hey, is the synaptics settings in System Settings installed by default now? Or does it only install when you install ksynaptics or such? [05:19] Ahhh kynaptics... evil E-Vill!! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:22] hiya Hobbsee [05:23] hiya [05:24] well, kdepim is cleaned out [05:24] kdelibs is an apport mess === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@unaffiliated/wsjunior] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Daskreech waves at Hobbsee manchicken and freeflying === Hobbsee waves at Daskreech [05:39] nixternal: NICE WORK!!! [05:39] why thank you :) [05:39] Daskreech: hi === nixternal is working on meta now [05:39] hi all [05:39] :) [05:39] hiya freeflying! === Hobbsee also got some email back from mattr, telling her which kopete bugs she could close [05:40] Hobbsee: do you know if ksynaptic/libsynaptics is installed ootb now? i.e. Touchpad config in System Settings [05:40] or is that something I installed and can't grep from the logs [05:40] Hobbsee: aren't they in High KDE4 churn right now? [05:40] nixternal: it's still in universe [05:41] Daskreech: pretty much [05:41] Daskreech: but still fixing bugs [05:41] any plans getting that into main so there is touchpad support ootb in system settings? [05:41] nixternal: see http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/kubuntu.gutsy/ [05:42] er...that's not a bad idea [05:42] it is a wishlist item in lp for over a year now [05:42] ahh. i'd forgotten about it [05:43] Does anybody know if Riddell has been keeping his systemsettings changes in subversion? [05:43] I have it on my laptop, didn't know if I installed it though..guess I did [05:43] nice feature [05:43] nixternal: it's feasible, anyway, if someone writes the MIR [05:43] we've got the cd space, it appears [05:43] maybe something to look into [05:43] need to find out if you just need libsynaptics or is system settings utilizing ksynaptics [05:44] i've no idea :) [05:44] have to research that and find out [05:44] i dont end up using it - my touchpad Just Works [05:44] fabo: is the debian contact [05:44] ya, mine too, but then again I rarely use mine, external mouse [05:46] Wow, syystemsettings loads KCM modules. [05:46] It crashes going back to the overview, but still, what a startt. [05:47] Riddell must have been busy. [05:48] manchicken: 3 or 4? [05:48] 4 [05:49] ahhh [05:49] 3 seems crashy here too [05:50] I haven't done much in gutsy yet. [05:50] My lappy still needs to be super stable for work. [05:50] But I suppose I'll settle for Feisty... [05:50] :) [05:58] I got that crash to go away, but that's treating the symptom, not the disease. [05:58] The search bar needs fixing. [06:01] ha ha [06:01] !root [06:01] do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [06:02] !-root [06:02] root has no aliases - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 01:18:28 [06:02] hehe [06:04] Hobbsee: right I forgot you got a new toy :) [06:04] !hobbsee [06:04] I phear the stick so shhhhh [06:04] bug 34041 [06:04] Launchpad bug 34041 in kdenetwork "Kopete displays the wrong name in conversation windows" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34041 === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] nixternal: have you seen http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/? [06:12] nope [06:12] interesting === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.178.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:12] yep :) [06:13] Jucato: are you going to be one of the cool people too? [06:13] Jucato: http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/ [06:13] I am trying to interprate this [06:14] ahh, I see [06:14] I won't bother :) [06:14] Hobbsee: I can't be for the next few days... [06:14] not to shabby..that was a lot of bugs closed [06:14] Jucato: awww :P [06:14] nixternal: indeed! === Jucato still can't understand why his touchpad isn't working "nicely" in a fresh Feisty install... [06:15] heh [06:15] iirc, it worked ootb on Edgy... [06:15] I know I closed quite a bit, and out of all the ones I closed, only one reopened...the rest were commented with "ya I don't have this issue anymore" [06:18] I haven't done bug triaging in months :) [06:18] udev control how usb devices are used? i.e. executing files from a usb drive? [06:18] hm... lunch... bbl [06:18] they have it under kubuntu-meta and ubuntu-meta, however I can't confirm the issue, yet a bunch of others are reporting the issue === apacheLAGger [n=me@N958P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:50] nixternal: no idea, sorry [06:53] tis ok, I changed it to pmount since that is what pmount does, if it isn't pmount, then who ever triages that can change it accordingly :) [06:53] it definitely isn't a meta issue though [06:53] indeed [06:59] Hobbsee: that's a deceptive graph :) [06:59] Daskreech: why so? [06:59] as long as you understand what it's set out to say... [07:00] it doesnt start from 0 bugs, you're right. [07:01] Hobbsee: I was seeing the 30000 bugs from the corner of my eye and thinking My that's a lot of load shedding [07:01] ahhh [07:01] it makes me wonder exactly where all those bugs are though [07:03] wow [07:04] I didn't know this, but when you install language-support-$cc [07:04] you get firefox and thunderbird as well [07:04] i wonder if one could get a list of bugs per source package. like https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs or something [07:04] I have a whole heap of gnome stuff on my computer [07:04] metacity etc [07:04] the language support package depends on the the mozilla locales packages for the country code, which both depend on firefox and thunderbird instead of suggest [07:04] noooo clue how it got there :( === Jucato hopes Tm_T is around and awake... === nixternal wonders how to go about querying lp for all kubuntu/kde wishlist bugs [07:26] would be nice to see what we can implement in gutsy [07:27] nixternal: search for them - status wishlist, with text of kde [07:27] can I do "kde" or "kubuntu"? [07:27] hell, I know you can :) [07:27] you'll have to do one at a time [07:27] don't know why I asked [07:28] :) [07:28] you used to be able to feed it boolean === nixternal waits for b.k.o [07:30] heh [07:30] b.k.o doesn't accept search terms below 4 letters. :) [07:30] so you can't use css, kjs, kde, etc :) [07:31] bugzilla search is a pain, though === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:07] hiya Lure [08:07] yay, more bug closings! [08:09] hehe === nixternal is going and going and going and going [08:10] yay, nixternal! === Hobbsee wants to see 0 bugs nto known about upstream, or without debdiff's, by the end of the day :) === Hobbsee thinks nixternal can do it [08:11] hehe [08:11] it was end of the day an hour and 11 minutes ago [08:11] then you've got another ~23 hours [08:13] kubuntu-grub-splashimages had 6 bugs, all the same pretty much...duplicate! down to 1 bug now [08:13] yay! [08:13] argh, kubuntu-docs has bugs...wth! :) [08:13] what's the bug? [08:14] Hobbsee: hi [08:14] Riddell: you can close one of them by getting the edgy updates in for localisation :) [08:14] Lure: I just duped your grub bug that you confirmed over a year ago :) [08:14] I remember the guy who reported it on IRC [08:15] messing with them silly splash images had my system so hosed [08:15] nixternal: I do not even recall it ;-) [08:16] nixternal: right, universe package... [08:16] ya, I doubt it still works, however nobody has been reporting anything [08:16] we figured out it was something with the .gz files or what not, and he ended up converting it to something else and it worked [08:16] I remember, he wanted the debian image the most [08:19] Hobbsee: task for your new powers ;-) http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2007/06/free-injections.html [08:20] Lure: fun stuff. that should be a recommends, nto a depends, iir.c [08:20] Hobbsee: yep, we should do Recommends for most non-essentail packages... [08:22] it appears that kubuntu-meta doesnt actually have a bzr version [08:24] Lure: i wonder if Riddell's got some of them kept there for a reason [08:24] Lure: because there's a heck of a lot of packages that that coudl apply to [08:25] Hobbsee: I doubt, as he was changing some others to Recommends on request (for example digikam, kipi-plugins, knetworkmanager...) [08:25] fair enough [08:25] Hobbsee: but I agree that it may be good to discuss it at least with him if not on kubunut-devel [08:25] Hobbsee: maybe you should suggest a list of "demotions" to Recommends and send it to ML [08:25] file a bug about it, and subscribe me, about all the apps that shouldnt be on there? [08:26] Hobbsee: will do [08:26] Lure: http://rafb.net/p/RromAg15.html is the current depends list === Hobbsee has work [08:37] actually, the seeds are in bzr, it's just kubuntu-meta that isnt. [08:37] hm. i wonder how these recommends are actually done, per se. i'll have to ask Riddell [08:38] Hobbsee: bug 119467 [08:38] Launchpad bug 119467 in kubuntu-meta "make non-essential packages Recommends and not Depends" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119467 [08:38] k, will look later === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Daskreech [n=ubuntu@port0002-abm-static-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:25] kdetoys menus are wrong === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:25] bug 102750 [09:25] Launchpad bug 102750 in kdetoys "kworldclock in wrong category in xubuntu menu" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102750 [09:25] it shouldn't be Games/Toys I don't think [09:29] I just poked ana about the the kdetoys issues, see about getting them fixed there and then merging here === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:31] http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/? [09:31] wo0t === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F74E83.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F74E83.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IppatsuManXYZ [n=kvirc@213-140-19-123.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F74E83.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.178.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@11-129.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.153.194.243] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54a71e4b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:55] nixternal: oh my god, just how many bugs did you triage today? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.101.74] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:01] nixternal: I have got around 50 mails in my recieved mail, all with your name on them... your bug-triaging skills rock! [12:08] nixternal: ooh, a hundred (according to your blog) ... I am speechless === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E1FC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] mhb: yep, it's nice to see him stepping up. === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@01-124.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@01-124.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E1FC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=nosredna@01-124.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger is now known as apachelogger === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-124-189-12-176.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee dies [01:42] nixternal!!! === Hobbsee had a nice, read bugmail folder before this incoming flood. [01:55] lol [01:55] it's good..but sheesh. === Hobbsee was trying hard to get thru the bugmail, and have it in a sane fashion [01:57] if a bug doesn't appear in a later version do i set to 'fix released'? [01:57] xerosis: I'd say so [01:58] apachelogger: upstream marked as WORKSFORME [01:58] anyone in revu mood? [01:58] xerosis: so mark it invalid... or however that is called in LP [01:58] apachelogger: it has been confirmed though [01:59] hm [01:59] it's getting complicate [01:59] bug #31055 [01:59] Launchpad bug 31055 in Ubuntu "Konqueror crash on Real Media streams" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31055 [01:59] xerosis: has it been confirmed on kubuntu, or on other system as well? [01:59] just kubuntu afaik [02:00] hm === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-13-216.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] xerosis: ask for info, whether it still appears on feisty [02:00] if not mark as fix released [02:00] apachelogger: well it's fixed in gutsy... [02:01] fix released [02:01] doesn't really make any difference whether you close the bug now or when gutsy is out ;-) === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] apachelogger: okay, thanks [02:03] Lure_: I was just asking about bug #31055 and i see you were the last commenter... [02:03] Launchpad bug 31055 in Ubuntu "Konqueror crash on Real Media streams" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31055 [02:03] uhm [02:03] wtf is up with revu?! === ktulu77 [n=theo@chs77-1-82-238-8-65.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:07] hi there! [02:08] i would like to contribute to kubuntu [02:09] I've just learn Qt, perhaps I can help? === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387E1FC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@201-67-29-152.bsace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:17] hello ktulu77 [02:17] ktulu77: you can help in plenty of ways [02:19] ktulu77: if you want to code applications, then it might be better to join the KDE project itself [02:20] xerosis: I do not recall that bug - I think I was just relaying the fix from goldenear [02:20] ktulu77: we do documentation, packaging and related stuff [02:20] xerosis: what about it? [02:21] Lure_: a crash with real player plugins [02:21] Lure_: i was going to mark as fix released [02:21] xerosis: I think this was due to kaffeine used in dapper - we changed to kmplayer for edgy/feisty, but gutsy will have fixed kaffeine again [02:21] xerosis: I think you can [02:22] Lure_: I can't reproduce it in gutsy, so it seems it is fixed [02:22] ktulu77: and of course, we find and triage bugs [02:22] mhb: nixternal has only closed 100 bugs, but have triaged much more than that ! [02:22] mhb but I heard there was developpers in kubuntu [02:22] and less than for gnome [02:23] ktulu77: sure, but they work on kde stuff [02:23] so I thought I could help [02:23] xerosis: just put ploite note that they can reopen if they can reproduce with feisty/gutsy [02:23] or packaging stuff, ro bugs stuff, etc [02:23] Lure_: will do, thanks [02:23] hmm oky [02:23] I've installed gutsy with virtual machine [02:24] Lure_: even better :o) [02:24] but I don't know how to do [02:24] mhb: nixternal is just unbelivable! [02:26] ktulu77: you can fix bugs in KDE applications themselves, that involves coding, of course - and you help both kubuntu and kde [02:27] ktulu77: or you can port applications from the KDE3 bindings to the KDE4 bindings, that is also very helpful [02:27] mhb: yes [02:27] why not [02:27] I don't know how to do tha [02:28] that [02:28] download the sources? [02:29] I saw there is a repository for kde4 and ubuntu [02:30] ktulu77: you can start with compiling the latest kde4 code from svn, I guess [02:30] on my kubuntu ? [02:31] ktulu77: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 [02:31] ktulu77: yes [02:32] mhb: thanks ! [02:32] it will not break my kubuntu? [02:32] ktulu77: it should be painless, if you follow the instructions [02:32] mhb: all right !! [02:32] mhb: thank you for the link !! [02:32] ktulu77: there is a lot of useful information for starters at techbase.kde.org [02:33] it should be amazing [02:33] mhb: ok i didn't know this link ! [02:33] ktulu77: if you need some more directions, feel free to email to our kubuntu-devel mailing list [02:33] ok thanks !! [02:34] ktulu77: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel [02:34]