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zipperfreshly installed kubuntu 6.06, doing an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is giving me these errors: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=37009. Anyone know whats wrong?12:14
zipper!help12:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:15
hikaricoreis it causing continuous errors in apt?12:15
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zipperhikaricore: yeah12:16
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seniortacowine12:16
hikaricorehmm... you could try reinstalling the language packs12:16
seniortacowoops12:16
hikaricorerofl12:16
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seniortacolol12:17
hikaricoreThat's odd though, did you check the forums to see if anyone had a similar problem in an upgrade?12:17
zipperhikaricore: not yet...12:17
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seniortacoaww wine cant run msi files12:18
elcucohi, i see a new kernel update. whats new on that update?12:18
hikaricoreI know there's a prog yuo can run in wine to run msi12:18
hikaricorelemmie search around a bit :P12:18
hikaricore*you12:18
seniortaco:D12:18
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sercikhi friends!12:19
serciki have a hard question!12:19
sercikfor linux guru12:19
serciksomeone wants try??12:19
imagine!ask @ secleinteer12:19
imaginetss12:20
imagine~ask @ sercik12:20
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serciki have a pc with linux installed and i want that it download giles for me12:20
imaginebugger this, sercik:don't ask to ask..12:20
seniortacoyay i got it to work12:20
hikaricoreseniortaco: woot12:20
serciki use putty to connect to pc but when i close putty the command stops tp work12:21
hikaricoreseniortaco: sorry i'm slow :P12:21
khaije1seniortaco: are you a mr taco, or a junior taco that made the grade....?12:21
sercikalso if i give in background with &12:21
imaginesercik: download files? and what is putty?12:21
khaije1or both...?12:21
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sercikfor guru only!12:21
seniortacoum.. no lol12:21
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rodrigohello guys12:21
imaginesercik: you're question doesn't make sense, you send a command to execute on your linux box and... ?12:22
rodrigodoes any one can tell me how do I register on here?12:22
zipperimagine: i mostly use putty as ssh client, but it also supports other stuff12:22
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sercikimagine is complicated12:22
serciki need to download files with linux box12:22
imaginezipper: oh ssh client! well now we are getting somewhere12:22
hikaricorewget?12:22
hikaricorelol12:22
sercikbut i have no monitor and no keyboard12:22
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rodrigohellou?12:22
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hikaricoreinstall openssh on it12:22
serciktha pc is my gateway12:22
hikaricorethen ssh to it12:22
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imaginesercik: stop saying is for guru and it's complicated, it's irritating12:23
serciki have done12:23
sercikputty is a windows ssh client12:23
rodrigohello12:23
rodrigohola?12:23
sercikbut if i close putty the download stops12:23
hikaricoreok so where are you trying to install files from?12:23
hikaricorewell yea12:23
serciki need to shutdown windows pc12:23
imaginesercik: of course it does.. you logout of your account..12:23
sercikand let linux download12:23
zipperimagine: what are you trying to do?12:23
sercikis not a simple problem infact12:23
hikaricorefollow the download command with an "&" symbol and it should keep running12:24
sercikno12:24
serciki have tried12:24
seniortacoanddddd steam fails to install on me thnx steam for being so awsome12:24
imaginezipper: I'm not trying to do anything, I'm trying to explain SSH to sercik12:24
sercikif i close it stops12:24
zipperimagine: oh okay. Nevermind me then12:24
imagine:D12:24
imaginesercik: well.. why do you want to download the file from the server?12:24
sercikis a difficult problem but i think should be a solution!12:24
sercikyes!12:25
zippersercik: you can do it with "screen"12:25
imaginewhy is an open question..12:25
sercikscreen?12:25
zipperit lets a "screen session" run, even after you've logged off12:25
sercikwhat is?12:25
rodrigo\nick rodro12:25
HymnToLifeAmen to that !12:25
zippersercik: its a program12:25
rodrigohow do I change my nick?12:25
hikaricoreseniortaco: there are some steam howtos, have to looked at any?12:25
HymnToLifescreen is the greatest invention of mankind since canned beer :p12:25
sercikzipper i understood this :)12:25
hikaricoreseniortaco: I'm not really familiar with steam or I'd help more >.<12:25
sercikcould you point me to a giude?12:25
rodrigodoes kubuntu let you remote assistance?12:25
sercikor give me some starts?12:25
imaginerodrigo: yes12:26
HymnToLifesercik, screen yourCommand12:26
rodrigothanks imagine how?12:26
serciksimply12:26
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zippersercik: i mostly use screen for having irssi running on my server. Find it better than using a bouncer.12:26
HymnToLifesercik, then Ctrl+A, Ctrl+D12:26
imaginerodrigo: well there's many ways, ssh is one...12:26
sercikso for example12:26
HymnToLifewill get you back to your prompt but the command will keep running12:26
rodrigossh?12:26
rodrigoimagine12:26
sercikscreen wget url ?12:26
HymnToLifesercik, yep12:26
sercikand then ctrl A cnd CTRL D12:27
rodrigoI spent all the day of yesterday trying to make my dvd softwares works12:27
zippersercik: it's really simple. To create a new screen: "screen -DR name-of-screen-here"12:27
rodrigoand I coudn't imagine12:27
serciki will try! if works i love you 112:27
sercik1!12:27
imaginerodrigo: hmm, SSH is a tunneling app that let you transfer data over an encrypter tunnel. you can set your Xserver to connect to a remote computer though a SSH server12:27
HymnToLifesercik, exactly, and then if you want to get back in the screen, to see if all is going well, you just do      screen -R12:27
sercikah interesting12:27
zippersercik: you can then detach from the screen (still running) with CTRL+A and then ctrl+d12:27
sercikbut simply i can do a ps -ax | grep whet12:27
rodrigoimagine and how do i do that?12:28
hikaricoreimagine: krfb might be easier for him :)12:28
zippersercik: to resume a screen again, type "screen -r name-of-screen-here"12:28
sercikwait12:28
sercikwait12:28
imaginehikaricore: maybe:) ahaha running kubuntu part time only !12:28
rodrigoimagine: there are only two things that I want to do12:28
imagineanyway I got more shit to do!12:28
serciki'm confused12:28
zippersercik: oh?12:28
rodrigoimagine: to run my dvd and to install gimpshop12:28
hikaricoreimagine:  it's like gnome's vnc but for kde and it works better12:28
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rodrigoimagine: no one could help me yesterday with that12:29
imagineoh.. never used it..12:29
sercikfirst problem: linux don't have screen command12:29
imaginerodrigo: well.. gimpshop, can't you run it with cygwin?12:29
sercikapt-get found it ok!12:29
HymnToLifesercik, apt-get instal screen :)12:29
imagine...12:29
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sercikis not ubuntu!!12:29
zippersercik: "apt-get install screen"12:29
rodrigoimagine: cygwin?12:29
hikaricoresercik: ??12:29
zippersercik: sorry, "sudo apt-get install screen"12:30
sercikzipper i'm not stupid i know this!12:30
zipper=/12:30
zippersorry12:30
zipperwhat distro?12:30
sercikdon't worry :)12:30
rodrigoimagine: let's put it this way I have just one week with linux12:30
serciki have kubuntu on my desktop12:30
imaginerodrigo: nvm what I said, I really need to get going, if you want answer, ask easy to understand question..12:30
sercikin my server i have clarkconnect12:30
zipperclarkconnect?12:30
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HymnToLifewhat's that ?12:30
imagineahahhahahahahha12:30
hikaricorepulling this out of thin air i imagine12:30
imagineclarkconnect..12:30
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rodrigoimagine: sorry12:30
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serciksearch fot ir12:31
sercikclarkconnect is the best linux router distribution12:31
serciki think.........12:31
rodrigorodrigo: maybe the best thing is just don't use linux12:31
imagineI would trust an distro called clarkconnect only when the computer would be powered off12:31
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rodrigorodrigo: too technical for me12:31
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sercikrodrigo i con't understand12:31
sercikclarkconnect exists12:32
imaginerodrigo: take your time, if you want answers go to #kde as well.. they will help you with krfb12:32
sercikis based on centos12:32
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sercikand is the best router/gateway distribution i know12:32
HymnToLifeWikipedia tells me it also uses apt12:32
sercikit can be installed on HD!12:32
francesco_scusate ci sta un canale italiano?12:32
HymnToLifeso try apt-get install screen12:32
francesco_are there a italian channel?12:32
HymnToLife!it | francesco_12:32
zippersercik: what kind of package system does it use? Ports? RPM?12:32
ubotufrancesco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:32
serciki have also installed mldonkey on it and all my famili use it to download from emule12:32
hikaricoreeww emule12:33
zippersercik: ah... then just install screen on it as well?12:33
seniortacolol12:33
sercikand connect remote with sancho12:33
hikaricorewth is sansho12:33
serciksancho is a gui for mldonkey core12:33
hikaricoreah gotya12:33
jarnI don't suppose there's a log of things I've typed into the terminal anywhere, is there?12:33
hikaricoresome exist in .bash_history12:34
sercikhikaricore the core run on gateway and i search and send download from client with sancho12:34
zipperjarn: there is. in "~/.bash_history12:34
hikaricorebut it depends on what terminal you've used12:34
zipperjarn: sorry, "~/.bash_history"12:34
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sercikit tells screen wget http://afs.caspur.it/afs/italia/project/mirrors/suse/install/10.2/iso/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-i386.iso12:34
sercik[detached] 12:34
zippersercik: good12:34
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serciknow! can i close??12:34
zippersercik: you can.12:35
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HymnToLifethat's pretty much the point :p12:35
zippersercik: you might want to consider making sure that you can re-attach before though12:35
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serciknow if i want to restore session?12:35
hikaricoreI'm so glad I have a input/vga switcher so I don't have to deal with sshing in to my server.  ^_^12:35
HymnToLifesercik, screen -R12:35
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zippersercik: "screen -r NameOfTheScreen"12:36
sercikWOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww12:36
jarnzipper: Thanks!12:36
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sercikwonderful!12:36
zippersercik: you can also see a list of available screens with "screen -l"12:36
HymnToLifezipper, less keystrokes, I win :p12:36
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sercikok i will read man screen12:36
zipperHymnToLife: =/12:36
sercikzipper thank you very very nuch!!!!!12:36
zippernp12:36
sercikyou are great!12:36
zipperlol12:36
zipper=)12:36
serciki love this channel12:36
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sercikis full of fantastic people12:37
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MinatakuJust in time for the truth12:37
chrislynchi would like to repartition my drive with qtparted, it says the drive is busy though.  What can I do to fix this?12:37
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seniortacou think im fantastic .. i feel honored12:37
Minatakuchrislynch: Stop using it12:37
sercikfinally i can shutdown my pc and let my server download12:37
MinatakuIf it's busy it most likely has mounted filesystems12:38
zipperhikaricore: i'm sorry, i'm not registers. Forgotten my account info =/12:38
seniortacojust wondering anyone here using vmware to run ubuntu?12:38
zipperhikaricore: registered*12:38
serciki have a strange problem with kubuntu i can't ping my gateway and i can't connect to it via ssh anymore however i receive internet connection and i can browwse web and use konversation for example!12:38
seniortaco?12:38
MinatakuBah12:38
zippersercik: you sure you didnt accidently stopped the ssh service?12:38
MinatakuThe services package here fudging sucks12:38
sercikno zipper12:39
chrislynchminataku: yes, it is.  I want to create a new partition so that I can instal another OS onto my drive12:39
sercikfo sure i have reinstalled gatewaay12:39
saber_my pc didn't shut down or restart12:39
Minatakuchrislynch: Sorry. Can't partition a drive that's in use12:39
sercikbut from windows works good and from kubuntu don't12:39
saber_any help?12:39
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serciki can't ping12:39
hikaricorechrislynch: your best bet would probably be to boot from a live cd and partition it that way12:39
sercikbut i recieve internet!12:39
serciki don't believe this strange problem!12:39
Minatakusercik: If it works, don't break it12:40
hikaricorechrislynch: if it's your main partion you won't be able to do anything while it's mounted, for your own safety.12:40
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serciki need to reinstall kubuntu12:40
chrislynchhikaricore: that was my next option i was going to try, thanks.12:40
Hail_SpacecakeI can't get kwifimanager to load a preset configuration on startup12:40
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Hail_Spacecakethe program loads, but it doesn't load the configuration12:40
Minatakus/main/root/12:40
sercikMinataku sorry!12:40
seniortacoserick: im gunna have to say communism might be the cause of your mysterious problem12:40
Hail_Spacecakeand I have to go into the configuration editor as root every single time12:40
Minatakusercik: Heehee, it's okay12:40
Hail_Spacecakeso how do I fix that?12:40
hikaricorerofl12:40
sercikseniortaco :)12:40
seniortacolol12:40
hikaricorefix communism?12:40
hikaricorelol12:40
sercikias a veru nisterious problem12:40
hikaricoresorry12:40
Minatakusercik: It's probably just some bizarre routing issue, as long as the internet still works I wouldn't worry about it12:41
seniortacoi does make some sense though u can get on the net but communism is forbidding u from pinging12:41
sercikMinataku i need also to connect to router not only navigate12:41
sercikto send command for example12:41
zipperlol seniortaco12:41
seniortacoso do sudo apt-get install democracy and ur set12:42
serciki have a beautiful kubuntu i had configured always and now i need to reinstall :(12:42
serciksorry not always but all12:42
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hikaricorei think you're just trying to do everything too fast to be honest12:42
hikaricoreYou're trying to make everything work without wholey understanding any of it12:42
hikaricoreI think you're head might explode12:43
sercikhikaricore i understand but my problem is very strange!12:43
hikaricore*your12:43
serciki'm on a network that works but i can't ping pc12:43
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hikaricoredoes your router block pings?12:43
sercikalso if i mount a samba shared i see directory but the file are unusable!12:43
Minatakuseniortaco: As for you, if you don't have serious assistance, stop12:43
hikaricorelike maybe a builtin firewall?12:43
sercikhikaricore my rouer is a linux pc12:44
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zipperhikaricore: blocking inside the LAN? Sounds wierd....12:44
sercikand it worked until two days ago12:44
tdnHow do I add my SSH key to ssh-agent each time I log in to KDE? So I don't have to write "ssh-add" the first time I want to use SSH in each session.12:44
sercikbut windows works only kubuntu don't12:44
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sercikcan i reset network configuration on kubuntu?12:44
zippersercik: well... You just started downloading a huge file right? Perhaps the packages are getting lost in congestion control or something12:45
keithis it a complicated task to authunicate with active directory12:45
hikaricorei hope that your "router" system has a static ip12:45
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zipper!help12:45
sercikzipper router works good12:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:45
serciki'm sure because now i'm on windows12:46
tdnknetworkmanager stopped showing available wireless networks. How do I get it to do that? How do I even debug this?12:46
sercikand i can ping it i can coonect to it via ssh and i cam mount samba shares12:46
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sercikin kubuntu until three days ago no problem12:46
serciknow full of problem :)12:46
Arwenwill I have to recompile kernel modules after a minor kernel update? like 2.6.20-16.28 -> 2.6.20-16.29?12:46
sercikfrom kubuntu i can't ping i can't connect via ssh12:47
crimsunit's a good idea to, but no, you shouldn't have to.12:47
Arwenok12:47
crimsun(to Arwen)12:47
serciki can only browse internet12:47
sercikhi crimsun!12:47
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oslo__hi12:47
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oslo__do u know any ssl chat programs ?12:48
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hikaricoresercik: i think your problems as a whole are too much for anyone to handle.  you need to stick to one basic issue and try and fix that, instead of everything at once.12:48
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main2can i configure kubuntu in such way that when i press the powerbutton of my desktop, that it goes into suspend mode12:48
Arwenoslo__, err... XChat, Konversation, etc12:48
main2instead of powerdown!?12:48
main2i cant find the power options :/12:48
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oslo__Arwen> iin fact i'd like to do chat with PGP keys12:49
sercikhikaricore i know!12:49
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nosrednaekimmain2: yes you can... lemme remember where I saw that...12:49
sercikthanks a lot to all12:49
serciki go to bed12:49
Arwenoslo__, um, then you need to connect to an SSL-enabled server12:49
Arwenmost clients support it12:49
saber_where is power opition in kubuntu12:49
zipper!help12:49
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oslo__Arwen> could i host it ?12:50
ArwenI guess..12:50
oslo__do u have any links for me ?12:50
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oslo__any program name, any tutorials ?12:50
saber_my hard disk refuse to mount12:50
saber_any help?12:51
drblood_hm12:51
hikaricorewhat type of file system?12:51
saber_fat3212:51
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saber_i have 250gb sata hd12:51
nosrednaekimmain2: hmm.. can't find it...12:51
saber_on partion mounted and the rest refused12:51
drblood_i cant believe its true that there are roads left in both of the shoes if the sun mistakes you then i hope it takes me too12:51
hikaricoremounting with "-t fat"?12:52
main2nosrednaekim, crap :D, but thanks for looking :)12:52
saber_explain plz12:52
nosrednaekimmain2: there still mgith be.. google it12:53
nosrednaekim*might12:53
hikaricoremount /dev/hd? /media/place -t fat12:53
hikaricoreif it's not seeing the partition type you'll need to tell it12:53
nosrednaekimhikaricore: its sata....12:53
saber_i tried no result the same refuse12:53
saber_i mounted one fat 32 partion while the others refuse     why?12:54
hikaricorewhat's the actual command you're using?12:55
hikaricoreand what's the /dev location of the device12:55
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drblood_DEATH CAB 4 CUTIE ROOLS12:55
drblood_SOUL MEETS BODY!12:55
saber_look here is the message12:55
saber_hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 100012:55
nosrednaekimummm... how do we kick someone?12:56
hikaricoreare you running mount with sudo?12:56
saber_no12:56
hikaricorenosrednaekim: should we though?  i kinda laughed12:56
nosrednaekimlol...12:56
saber_from the media storage right clik12:56
hikaricoresaber_: you have to run mount with "sudo"12:56
hikaricoreis it asking for a password when you do that?12:56
saber_when i mount noooooooooooo12:57
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saber_i am new plz tell me how12:57
hikaricoreok12:57
hikaricorefirst off, open a terminal12:57
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hikaricoreso you can actually see what's happening12:57
saber_how plz12:57
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saber_how to open terminal12:58
hikaricorealt+f2 then type konsole12:58
hikaricorei think that's the kde term12:58
hikaricorelol12:58
Arwendamn it, medibuntu is broken again..12:58
hikaricoreArwen: ouch12:58
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saber_ok12:58
saber_then12:58
Arwenhikaricore, yeh.... they're not hosting development headers anymore...12:58
hikaricorenow in the terminal you type:  sudo mount /dev/sd?? /locationyouwantitmounted -t fat3212:59
hikaricorereplace text accordingly :)12:59
hikaricore?? = the location of the device12:59
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hikaricoreerr01:00
hikaricore"-t fat"01:00
hikaricoresorry01:00
Minatakuvfat01:01
hikaricorechit01:01
hikaricore>.<01:01
MinatakuAnd put the options before the device01:01
hikaricorethat's what I get for never using anything besides ext301:01
hikaricoreI never have to pass filesystem typed :P01:01
hikaricore*types01:01
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MinatakuI do every so often01:02
MinatakuFilesystem options, too01:02
hikaricoreI think I last mounted a fat device like a year ago01:02
Arwenoh wait, my sources.list was just broken :-\01:02
MinatakuActually, for FAT, type isn't needed01:02
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MinatakuIt should be autodetected01:02
main2http://i8.tinypic.com/5xo5c0j.jpg01:03
hikaricoreEh it started by him saying it wasn't mounting01:03
hikaricoreso I just went form there01:03
main2PARIS back to jail ! haha pwned :D > http://i8.tinypic.com/5xo5c0j.jpg01:03
MinatakuIt's typically only for bizarro crap or when something goofs and it can't tell01:03
Minatakuhikaricore: Ah.01:03
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Minatakumain2: Off topic but great to hear01:03
Arwenlol... for Paris, the death penalty is highly appropriate :-\01:03
hikaricorerofl01:03
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hikaricoreshe must not have been able to find enough smack in her home to keep her flipped out during her house arrest01:03
hikaricoresorry I couldn't help it01:04
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hikaricorewhy does this remind me of the old netspits on dalnet?01:05
main2from 23days she now goes for the full 45 ;D01:05
hikaricoreimagine that many people disconnecting at once01:05
saber_thanx hi01:05
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hikaricoredid you get it figured out?01:05
greg_gwhat is the kde partition manager?01:05
hikaricoreif you need that drive to always be mounted you'll need to add a line for it in fstab01:06
saber_i managed to mount 3 partitions but still have 2 more who completely refuse01:06
hikaricoregreg_g: sudo apt-get install qtparted01:06
greg_ghikaricore: thanks01:06
Arwen^^ - remember not to partition active drives01:06
hikaricoresaber_: are you sure they're fat and not ntfs?01:06
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saber_i am sure they are fat3201:07
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hikaricorehmm... that's odd01:07
hikaricoreI'm not really sure other than to tell you maybe open up gparted or something and see if you're typing the correct devices01:08
hikaricoreerr01:08
hikaricoreqtparted01:08
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hikaricore^_^01:08
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tetriminohello every Kubuntu users :D01:09
BluesKajhikaricore, nothing wrong with gnome libs as long as they work in KDE :)01:09
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hikaricoretetrimino: hello there01:10
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tetriminojust started using Kubuntu yesterday01:10
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hikaricoreHow's it workin out for ya?01:10
tetriminoso im not really a linux geek yet :D01:10
tetriminohope it will come01:10
tetriminofine :D01:10
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=== hikaricore wtfbbqpwns Arwen.
hikaricoregood to hear01:10
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hikaricoreI'm a kubuntu convert since I got tired of gnome failing at existance.01:11
ArwenI dunno, I never liked KDE's look n' feel and was never motivated enough to fix it01:11
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hikaricorehehe I just made my kde desktop look just like my gnome desktop, without the whole nautilus bugging out thing01:12
hikaricorenautilus and gnome-screensaver were really my only pet peeves01:12
Arwenyeah, I hate gnome-screensaver01:12
Arwennautilus has a tendency to leak memory/cpu time too, but it was a solid file manager01:12
hikaricorethumbnailing kills it alot01:13
hikaricoreThe scripts need to have builtin timeouts01:13
hikaricoreBut they don't and they just keep running when they fail01:13
Arwenyeah, I didn't like the fact that you couldn't tell it to not cache thumbnails01:13
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Arwenand caching failed thumbnails - no no01:13
jrickI have a problem with Mailody.  I can not connect it to my Runbox acount using SMTP, and so I can't use it to send any messages. Can anyone help?01:13
BluesKajgot tired of having fiddle with spyware cleaners , antivirus apps, paying for stuff that is free on linux and worrying about all the other windows insecurities01:14
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ArwenBluesKaj, err, I run Windows too... without any of that cruft you mention01:14
hikaricoreI even converted my girl to kubuntu ^_^  now I only have to fix ventrilo instead of the whole comp.01:14
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saber_is there a programme i can use to mount my hd01:15
randradehi01:15
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tetriminoyou know what i like the most about Kubuntu?01:15
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tetriminoAdept Manager01:15
Arwen#kubuntu-offtopic please, we're digressing too much01:15
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antiroachhow can i install acrobat reader on fiesty fawn? \01:15
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Arwenantiroach, apt-get install acroread01:15
hikaricoresaber_: Your best bet is to add entries in the the /etc/fstab file to mount them automaticlly.01:15
BluesKajyes Arwen, as do i out of necessity to keep abreast of things in windows that my neebie kids rely on me for01:15
tetriminoi love it :D but then again, im used to winxp Do'H01:15
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saber_how and what to add?01:16
Arwendamn, I forgot to install a custom libmatroska-dev version before beginning compile...01:16
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Arwen*swears*01:16
antiroachE: Couldn't find package acroread01:16
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Arwen!repositories | antiroach01:16
ubotuantiroach: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:16
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hikaricore:P01:16
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Arwenhikaricore, I have my personal channel for offtopic :-)01:16
hikaricoresaber_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28313101:17
hikaricorethat might help explain fstab for ya01:17
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tetriminoanyone of you using Kopete?01:17
BluesKajnewbie daughter actually ...she just got a divorce from a control freak husband and has finally been able to learn about computing and the internet01:17
saber_thanx i will see and come back thankx dude01:18
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tetriminoi could really use a cheese burger D:01:20
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jrickdoes anyone here use Mailody as their email client (let's get a hand's up)01:21
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BluesKajtetrimino, I used kopete for a while just out of curiosity. It's ok but i still prefer konversation01:21
tetriminookay, but my "problem" is that i dont know how to change my display picture :D01:22
BluesKajthe opera browser has a nice embedded irc client ...works well01:22
BluesKajIMers ...really into visuals01:23
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MinatakuSweet... broke 3000 Gamerscore01:24
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Minataku3005, specifically01:24
hikaricorein what?01:24
MinatakuOverall01:25
Arwenf***, ATI support in Linux is soo bad..01:25
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hikaricoreThey promised to fix it01:26
hikaricoreI even posted a link to an article about it on UGA01:26
hikaricore:)01:26
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Arwenyeah, I'll believe it when I see results..01:26
ArwenAMD is dieing, didn't you see their second quarter losses?01:26
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HenchI'm having some trouble installing Kubuntu; anyone willing to help? :)01:26
hikaricoreWhat seems to be the trouble?01:27
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Arwen!ask | Hench01:27
ubotuHench: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:27
hikaricoreArwen: money is evil and I don't pay attention to company money01:28
Arwenprofit/loss is usually a good indicator of how good the company's doing01:28
HenchI intend to dual-boot XP on my Dell Inspiron 1505, but when I boot from the Kubuntu CD and select install it just sits there on a blank screen01:28
Henchperpetually01:28
Arwenwhich is usually reflective of their product01:28
ArwenHench, have you used the md5sum option to check it for errors?01:28
HenchYep01:29
Henchno errors01:29
Arwenhmm... how far does it get before it hangs?01:29
HenchThe Kubuntu logo shows up, and the bouncy status bar displays...bounces for a while, then the screen goes black01:29
Henchthe screen's still on, just...black01:29
Henchand nothing happens01:30
ArwenHench, hmm... did you try the safe graphics option?01:30
hikaricorethere's an option to start in safe graphical mode01:30
HenchThen the CD stops spinning01:30
hikaricorelol01:30
Henchah...no, hadn't tried that01:30
ArwenHench, if you tell us what video card you have, that might help01:30
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HenchJust so I don't waste my time, I've got an ATI Mobility Radeon x1400 in this laptop; is that compatible?01:31
ArwenX1xxx series? probably not01:31
Arwennot even by the 2d driver01:31
Hench:\01:31
HenchSo should I even bother?01:31
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ArwenHench, well, you can install the proprietary driver later01:32
hikaricoreIronicly this reflects our ATI discussion.01:32
Arwenafter setting it up in safe mode01:32
hikaricore>.<01:32
HenchArwen: from where?01:33
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ArwenHench, we'll get to that later..01:33
HenchHeh01:33
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HenchAlright, I'll try the safe graphics option01:33
tetriminois it possible to install a windows version of q3a on Kubuntu?01:33
HenchThanks01:34
dadHello. What is the network package for Kubuntu?01:34
ArwenHench, don't thank us till you've tried it :-)01:34
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ollie_hi people01:34
Arwenyay, compile finally finished01:34
Arwennow I can use my system..01:34
ollie_since upgrading to feisty from edgy, ive had problems with my screensaver being very very slow01:35
Arwenollie_, do you use fglrx?01:35
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ollie_erm,01:35
ollie_not to my knowledge01:35
ollie_since i dont know what it is01:35
Arwenthe ati proprietary driver?01:36
ollie_nope, nvidia here01:37
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Arwenhmm.... do you have direct rendering? just a thought01:37
hikaricoredid you reinstall the binary driver?01:37
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hikaricoreglxinfo | grep rendering01:37
ollie_i use their proprietary driver01:37
ollie_oh does it need re-installing manually?01:37
hikaricoreusually it does ^_^01:37
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ollie_:D01:37
hikaricorePersonally I recommend using Envy.  But that's jsut me.01:37
hikaricoremy typing is so dyslexic01:37
ollie_i'll just reinstall the binary quickly01:37
ollie_thanks guys01:37
Arwenhikaricore, ick, no scripts please... they fail hard01:37
BluesKajEnvy doesn't work for ATI on fesity ...dunno about nvidia01:37
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hikaricoreit works for nvidia01:38
ArwenI dislike those "easy" scripts, they tend to fail... and b0rk stuff when they fail :-\01:38
Arweneasier to do things manually01:38
BluesKajok so half of it works01:38
hikaricoreeh scripts are one thing, but al pulled off something good wiht envy01:38
hikaricoreI've very anti automatix/easyubuntu01:38
BluesKajactually Arwen ,envy works great for both ATI and nVidia on edgy01:39
hikaricoreYou try explaining to someone how to install nvidia drivers over the phone sometime.01:39
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hikaricoreand Envy will be your best frined01:39
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hikaricore....01:39
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Arwenhe's "L" lol01:40
BluesKajdon't think Alberts Milone has tried to reconfig envy for ATI on feisty, hence the the "unstable " label.01:40
hikaricoreit looks like an I01:40
hikaricore:P01:40
BluesKajerr Alberto01:40
hikaricore1600x1200 res for the lose01:40
Arwen1600x1200 pwns, lol01:41
Arwenif the text is too small, just increase your DPI :-)01:41
hikaricoreyea but I can't tell the difference between an l and and I01:41
Arwenjust bump up your font size? :-)01:41
hikaricorethat defeats the purpose01:42
Arwenand those are hard to distinguish with some fonts :-\01:42
hikaricore1600x1200 res with size 32 fonts01:42
Arwenhikaricore, I guess... food time... be back in 1001:42
hikaricoreno thanks01:42
crimsunlike, say, Red Hat's Liberation font01:42
hikaricoreI love liberation fonts01:42
crimsunno distinction between a capital Oh ('O') and a zero ('0')01:42
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hikaricoreI have them on every system l own :)01:43
crimsunI hope that's resolved when they release the fully hinted version.01:43
crimsunbecause right, it sucks to use Liberation01:43
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Arwenlol01:50
ArwenRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR01:50
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HenchAlas and alack, still didn't work01:51
hikaricoreagggghhhhhah01:51
hikaricoresorry Arwen scared me01:51
Arwenlol01:52
hikaricoreYour best bet would probably be the minimal cd, and I don't know if it would even be worth it.01:52
Henchthat makes me sad01:52
hikaricoreeven if you got *ubuntu installed you might not be able to use a gui01:52
hikaricore:/01:52
Hench:\01:53
Arwenwell, he could use the VESA driver01:53
hikaricorethat makes me a sad panda01:53
Arwen:-)01:53
Hench.....01:53
seniortacololer01:53
Arwenit works ok at 800x600, lol01:53
hikaricorehe could also perfom chemical castration on his eyes01:53
hikaricorebut I don't think that would be wise either01:53
HenchXD01:53
hikaricore>.<01:53
seniortacoid opt for that 101:53
HenchToo bad I don't have another computer to try it on01:53
hikaricorevesa driver means no 3d ect01:53
Arwenthe funny icon in the tray says I should reboot... but man, that'd be so boring01:53
Arwenhikaricore, it's a temporary solution....01:54
hikaricoreand it will kill your uptime01:54
seniortacoand down time01:54
seniortacowait01:54
seniortacoya reverse that defently will up ur down time01:54
hikaricore19:54:35 up 46 days, 3 min,  3 users,  load average: 0.15, 0.03, 0.0101:54
hikaricorehehehe01:54
HenchHeh, this CD comes with memtest on it01:54
Henchcool01:54
seniortacolol01:54
HenchXD01:55
Hench46 days? Damn01:55
seniortacolol i havent shut down this computer in a few months01:55
hikaricoreI still havn't rebooted for the latest kernel fix01:55
hikaricorewhich will fix all my drives being labeled sda01:55
hikaricoreseniortaco: nice01:56
seniortacosda?... sad drives anonomys?01:56
Henchhehe, sad drives01:56
hikaricorelol01:56
hikaricoreyes sad drives01:56
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seniortacoonly thing i can think of that sda could mean01:56
hikaricoreI can't enable dma on my cdrom/dvd drives01:57
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hikaricorebecause of a kernel bug that labels all my /dev/hd* as /dev/sd01:57
seniortacothats a mean bug01:57
Henchhahaha01:57
seniortacohave u tried raid ? killed all the bugs in this room01:57
hikaricoreha ha ha01:57
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hikaricoreomg you said raid like meaning it as a pun01:58
hikaricorei get it01:58
hikaricore:P01:58
seniortacololer01:58
seniortacoim using windows.. how bout that for a bug01:58
hikaricoreO.o01:59
seniortacolol01:59
hikaricorethat's more like a worm than a bug01:59
seniortacothis is running on a virtual machine01:59
HenchWell, now i need to reload all those files I moved to my external :(01:59
seniortacolol01:59
HenchAnd that took so long to do, too01:59
seniortacoi solved my compatibility issues by running linux inside of windows02:00
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seniortacoas crazy as it sounds it workd nicely02:00
HenchI can only imagine02:00
seniortacolol02:01
Hench'cuz, ya know, my video card doesn't work with it XD02:01
seniortacoi got dual screens so one is always linux and the other side is windows02:01
hikaricoreSo you're running a very nice secure OS, inside of satan's baby?02:01
hikaricorehehe02:01
seniortacokinda kool sliding my mouse between os's makes me feel powerful.... or something02:02
seniortacolol02:02
seniortacouve got that rite02:02
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seniortacoshould be vice versa but windows got me first so02:02
HenchLOL02:02
buhuaihello02:03
seniortacoits funny though cause ppl will ask me wat os im using and ill be like depends on wat mode im in02:03
seniortacomood*02:03
tetriminois there anykind of photoshop alternative for linux?02:03
HenchWell, I'm gonna go and move back over 30 gigs of data from my external02:03
seniortacogimp02:03
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tetriminothanks02:03
seniortaco:D02:03
hikaricoreThere are howtos on configuring gimp to be more like PS if you need it.02:03
seniortacoonly answer i can own!02:04
seniortacoanswer* lol02:04
hikaricoreThere's also a cmyk plugin in existance02:04
hikaricoreBut I've never used it.02:04
seniortacocmyk?02:04
shadowhywindoh i so screwed up! i have completely lost any ability to use sudo.. everytime i try to use sudo nothing happens.. can someone help?02:04
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seniortacou know if u take out the k and put an a and re arrange the letters u get... ymca02:04
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hikaricoreseniortaco:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cmyk02:05
seniortacoohhhh02:05
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hikaricoreshadowhywind: I can try, not sure if I'll be of much use.02:05
tetriminobtw any of you using XMMS as mp3 player?02:05
hikaricoreshadowhywind: do you have any other info except nothing happens?02:06
seniortacoi dont know wat u guys use but winamp ftw02:06
shadowhywindthe last thing i did was try to add a user to the root group02:06
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seniortacolol02:06
shadowhywindhikaricore that was the last thing i did before sudo stopped working02:06
seniortaco its awsome i dont know y u would want to smack me02:06
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tetriminoyeah winamp for the win, but you can't get winamp for linux? or cant you?02:06
seniortacodont think so but.. i got linux on one screen and windows on the other so i got no problems there02:07
seniortaco:D02:07
buhuaikde02:07
hikaricoreaudacious is pretty nice for a winamp replacement02:07
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seniortacolol02:07
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hikaricoreit can even use winamp 2 skins02:08
seniortacou cant replace winamp02:08
seniortacowait wat?!02:08
seniortacolol02:08
Minataku!jp02:08
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 02:08
Minataku!cn02:08
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:08
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buhuaijp 02:08
seniortacobj?02:09
Minataku!help02:09
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:09
MinatakuEr02:09
Minataku!ops02:09
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal02:09
hikaricoreseniortaco: that's enough02:09
MinatakuSomeone wanna get seniortaco outta here?02:09
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nixternalMinataku: ?02:09
MinatakuWe've had enough of his trolling idiocy02:09
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seniortacojust ask and i shall leave lol02:10
nixternalseniortaco: stay on topic or take it to #kubuntu-offtopic02:10
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MinatakuThanks, nixternal02:10
nixternalno, thank you Minataku02:11
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Minatakunp ^^02:11
hikaricoreThe response to our nonenglish friend was just too much :/02:11
deweygood day mates02:11
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deweyokay I have kubuntu on hdb and now it will not boot02:11
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deweygrub stops at stage 502:11
tetriminolol kubuntu is very confusing02:12
deweycan I fix that with live cd?02:12
MinatakuGRUB only has 2 stages02:12
hikaricoreO.o02:12
MinatakuWell, 3 if you count 1.502:12
tetriminoi just downloaded Python, but i cant exstract it? wtf02:12
deweywell, can I still fix it?02:12
MinatakuPossibly02:12
hikaricoretetrimino: what file format?02:12
MinatakuNot sure what's wrong to help you, though02:12
tetrimino.TGZ02:12
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MinatakuGZipped TAR archive02:13
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tetriminookidoki02:13
MinatakuExtract with "tar xfz blah.tgz"02:13
hikaricoretar -xpvf filename02:13
Minatakuhikaricore's won't work02:13
MinatakuUse mine02:13
deweyhmmm maybe mbr on that hd is messed up?02:13
tetriminoagain adept manager is very handy ;D02:13
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hikaricoreeh, always works for me, sorry02:13
Minatakuhikaricore: It's gzipped02:13
MinatakuIt has to be filtered through that first02:14
hikaricoreohh02:14
hikaricorenevermind02:14
MinatakuOtherwise tar will just spit out an error02:14
jujimufuhey guys, I am on kubuntu ffawn, and every time I try to pair my cellphone to my pc via bluetooth, when I enter the passcode on my cellphone I get a "Connection Failed" message on both devices, instead of getting a window on the PC asking me to type the password I just typed on my cellphone. Any ideas?02:14
Sannetetrimino: why did you download python? You should have it already installed.02:14
tetriminowell maybe i have.. but i havent got the hang of Kubuntu yet02:15
tetriminodownloaded it yesterday02:15
tetriminonormally im a windows guy.. >_<02:15
tetriminobtw it said that i have gzip installed ?02:16
MinatakuKubuntu doesn't come with gzip? If that's true, I'm gonna have to reevaluate my stance on recommending it again.02:17
Minataku!bluetooth | jujimufu02:17
ubotujujimufu: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:17
Minataku!info gzip02:17
ubotugzip: The GNU compression utility. In component main, is required. Version 1.3.9-2 (feisty), package size 73 kB, installed size 240 kB02:17
Minataku!info tar02:17
ubotutar: GNU tar. In component main, is required. Version 1.16-2 (feisty), package size 313 kB, installed size 1928 kB02:17
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Sannetetrimino: python is installed by default. Generally, it's better to first check if a program is available in the ubuntu repositories. Let me give you a link you might want to go over regarding software management.02:17
MinatakuJust checking02:17
DragnslcrMinataku- gzip is installed by default02:18
MinatakuYeah02:18
MinatakuDragnslcr: You never know what kind of stupid crap they might pull next, though02:18
jujimufuMinataku: thanks02:18
Minatakujujimufu: np02:18
Sannetetrimino: this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement02:18
Minataku!info python02:18
DragnslcrTrue, but gzip is a pretty common utility02:18
ubotupython: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.1-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB02:18
tetriminothanks02:19
MinatakuIt's not "required", simply "important"02:19
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MinatakuWhatever that means exactly :P02:19
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tetriminoim gonna study then :D02:20
tetriminosee ya some other time02:20
tetriminoim sure that ill be back :D02:20
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nosrednaekimsee ya02:20
MinatakuSorry, the repository/package management style of *buntu (and Debian) irks me02:20
nosrednaekimMinataku: Gentoo's just better eh?02:20
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anthony_Can anyone tell me where I can find the system requirements for kubuntu?02:21
Minatakuanthony_: On the side of the box02:21
Minatakuj/k02:21
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Minataku!requirements02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
nosrednaekimanthony_: I'd say its about 1Ghz, and about 384MB of RAM02:21
MinatakuBah02:21
MinatakuIdiot bot02:21
anthony_ a little higher than ubuntu, then.02:21
MinatakuNah, same02:22
MinatakuKDE is decidedly less horrific than GNOME02:22
MinatakuSo probably a bit less, actually02:22
nosrednaekimKDE is a bit harder on RAM from what i've seen02:22
Sannetetrimino: have fun :)02:23
MinatakuEasier on the eyes and nerves, though02:23
hikaricoreBut you don't have to deal with nautilus and gnome-screensaver..02:23
hikaricorehehe02:23
nosrednaekimhaha... true02:23
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anthony_Minataku, is KDE decidedly less horrific than kfce?02:23
MinatakuNever used xfce02:23
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anthony_my bad xfce02:23
nosrednaekimto use XFCE you'd have to be a masochist02:23
MinatakuI use Fluxbox02:23
jujimufuI am having problems with bluetooth. I followed the official ubuntu guide, but I still get an error when pairing my cellphone to the pc.02:23
anthony_or have an old slow machine.02:24
jujimufuAny ideas?02:24
nosrednaekimunless you have lacking hardware02:24
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MinatakuI don't want a huge DM nor any sort of heavy WM02:24
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MinatakuI like my window manager to manage windows... that's about it02:24
nosrednaekimMinataku: yeah.. In know.. but don't you miss klipper? I couldn't live without it02:24
MinatakuNo02:24
nosrednaekim*I02:24
MinatakuI never used it, AFAICR02:24
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Minatakupp pool?02:25
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MinatakuThat sounds gross02:25
MinatakuXD02:25
anthony_I just installed xubuntu on an old machine, and I've never used any linux distribution before, so I have no comparision point, but this is definitely lacking in some things.02:25
nosrednaekimif you ever used KDE.. you ued kilpper02:25
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nosrednaekimwhat?02:26
MinatakuRefresh me on what Klipper is, then02:26
nosrednaekimanthony_: like what?02:26
hikaricoreclipboard manager02:26
hikaricorejust like glipper02:26
hikaricore:P02:26
MinatakuNope, never used it02:26
nosrednaekimMinataku: its a clipboard which can store multiple cuts...02:26
hikaricoreso you can copy something from one window then paste it even after you close that window02:27
MinatakuX already has similar functionality02:27
nosrednaekimI must say that klipper makes more english sense than glipper02:27
MinatakuWhy would I need an extra program to do that?02:27
nosrednaekimand save cuts...02:27
hikaricoreanthony_: xubuntu is built for lower end machines, that's why it's lacking02:27
hajhousei have a problem with the Printers panel of the KDE System Settings: when i try to add a new printer (using the menu button) the System Settings program becomes unresponsive (i.e., it hangs)02:27
hikaricoreMinataku: because gnome has no builtin clipboard support02:27
anthony_I understood that. Maybe I'll upgrade one of my other machines to kubuntu sometime.02:27
MinatakuThat's the point, X11 has builtin pastebuffers02:28
MinatakuTwo, no less02:28
chuck__!dvdrip02:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:28
chuck__!dvd02:28
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs02:28
nosrednaekimhajhouse: for how long? it scans for printers and that takes a while02:28
hikaricoreMinataku: but it fails if you close a window that doesn't support those buffers02:28
chuck__!k9copy02:28
hikaricoreMinataku: IE firefox02:28
chuck__blah02:28
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hajhousenosrednaekim: ten minutes or more. eventually a dialog pops up telling me that the program is unresponsive and offering to forcibly terminate it02:29
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nosrednaekimInternet explorer? don't even say the word! you'll get me viruses by just saying the accursed phrase02:29
nosrednaekimhajhouse: ah ok.02:30
nosrednaekimhajhouse: did you log into admin mode on the bottom of that screen?02:30
chuck__!mencoder02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:30
chuck__!universe02:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:30
hikaricoreIE = Example02:30
Minataku"IE" is best pronounced as a word, and by dragging out the "E" while running away and flailing your arms about02:30
hajhousenosrednaekim: no02:30
Minataku;302:30
MinatakuIEEEEEEEEEEEE! *run*02:30
hajhousenosrednaekim: trying that02:30
MinatakuXD02:30
chuck__anyone know what repository mencoder is?02:31
chuck__is in8?02:31
Minataku!info mencoder02:31
ubotumencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 3473 kB, installed size 8732 kB02:31
Minataku!info transcode02:31
ubotutranscode: Utility to encode raw video/audio streams. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0.2-0.8ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2379 kB, installed size 5496 kB02:31
chuck__ohhhhh02:31
MinatakuThere's also that, too02:31
chuck__Minataku: I need mencoder to install k9copy apparently..... thanks02:31
nosrednaekimhikaricore: yea yeah... I know...02:31
Minatakuchuck__: np02:32
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chuck__this doesn't make much sense to me. I think I have multiverse enabled, but there's no installation candidate for mencoder. http://pastebin.ca/55191702:34
chuck__i have my sources.list in there, and i definitely ran an apt-get update02:34
hajhousenosrednaekim: i do not understand how the administrator mode works. i clicked the 'administrator mode' button, and the printer configuration window was replaced with a window that had no controls, only what looks like a blank text box and some help text on administrator mode02:35
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nosrednaekimhajhouse: hmm02:35
hajhousenosrednaekim: the distribution is feisty, and the printing system is cups02:36
nosrednaekimhajhouse: it doesn't promt you for your password?02:37
hajhousenosrednaekim: no02:37
nosrednaekimhajhouse: hmm..02:38
hikaricoreI've had kcontrol bug out like that on some systems02:38
hajhousenosrednaekim: i think i've found the problem. sudo does not work because it is not suit root02:38
hikaricoreNever figured out why though02:40
hajhousenosrednaekim: suid i mean02:40
nosrednaekimhajhouse: ah ok.02:40
hajhousenosrednaekim: how to fix that is a problem though. :(02:40
nosrednaekimhajhouse: sudo doesn't work PERIOD?02:40
hajhousenosrednaekim: correct :(02:40
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Voyage_is mircrosft sued for using the name vista ?02:44
hikaricorethat case is going to fall out of the courts02:44
nosrednaekimhajhouse: are you in the sudo group?02:44
hikaricoreno doubt02:44
Voyage_is mircrosft sued for using the name vista ?02:44
imaginewhy would they?02:44
imagineand why would we care?02:44
hikaricoreit was on slashdot02:44
hikaricorelol02:44
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nosrednaekimif its on slashdot.... GEEK OUT!02:44
Voyage_i saw it today02:44
Voyage_i saw the news [#LinuxChat News]  - Microsoft sued over Windows Vista name - A French television presenter has sued Microsoft for "violation of intellectual property". Philippe Gildas accused the software publisher of illegally using the trademark "Vista".02:44
nosrednaekimits just patent trolling....02:44
Voyage_hmm02:44
pchildsIs there a utility for kubuntu that can encrypt individual directaries ?02:44
hajhousenosrednaekim: i'm attempting to boot in single-user mode now02:44
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imagineyes and everyone sues everyone nowadays, ..you shouldn't use the word Vista anymore unless you have a letter from little Bill that says you can or you'll get sued as well02:44
Voyage_:)02:45
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hikaricoreYea but i copyrighted that letter.02:45
hikaricoreSo blam02:45
imaginevista, vista, vista, vista, vista, vista, vista, vista, vista, vista, vista02:45
imagineviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttttttttttttttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa02:45
pchildshaha Vista some more. lol02:45
imaginehahaha02:45
buhuaicao! use vista ?meiyou juewu02:45
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hajhousenosrednaekim: i was *not* in the sudo group.02:45
imaginebuhuai: the hell?02:46
jujimufuWhen I first installed kubuntu, I had managed to pair my cellphone and my pc just fine. But now, I've installed some apps such as gammu, gnome-bluetooth, wammu, bluez-utils and some others (which I don't remember), and although I can see each another, I can't pair them because the code given to the phone says it's wrong (although I am not asked for a code on the PC like I used to be asked when I first installed kubuntu)02:46
jujimufuany ideas?02:46
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nosrednaekimhajhouse: then put yourself in it...02:48
hajhousenosrednaekim: i did. trying the original issue again...02:49
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shadowhywindis there a way to add a user to the root group?02:50
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HyperCity!pastebin02:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:51
tetriminocan anyone help me install quake 3?02:52
tetriminoi really don't understand how im supposed to do it02:52
hajhousenosrednaekim: a dialog appears that says 'su returned an error'02:53
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hajhousenosrednaekim: yet oddly enough adding a printer seems to work now...the wizard starts. sudo had wrong permissions (not suid root) which i fixed02:54
nosrednaekimhajhouse: ok.. cool02:55
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kioskAnyone good with kmyfirewall?02:56
antiroachdoes anyone know how to remove the 'popouts' that happen when you launch an application in feisty fawn02:56
nosrednaekimantiroach: popouts?02:56
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nosrednaekimwhats apps?02:57
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jzillawhats the commnd to install a .deb -- is it sudo dkpg -i package.deb ?02:57
antiroachwhen i click on any apps in the tray (like firefox) for example for a split second i see a much bigger version of the firefox icon 'pop' out at me02:58
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coreymon77antiroach: and so?02:58
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coreymon77antiroach: is that really that big of a deal?02:59
antiroachand thats annoying as fuck02:59
antiroach:P02:59
antiroachi hate all the special effects and stuff in KDE. i disabled all of them02:59
elbinghi, a friend of mine without idea about english (:P) has an error with apt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24693/02:59
elbingany idea?02:59
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hajhousewhere can you find the list of remebered file associationd and edit it?03:00
antiroachhajhouse configure -> konqueror -> file associations03:00
coreymon77elbing: what language does you friend speak?03:00
elbingspanish03:00
elbingwe are in #kubuntu-es03:01
coreymon77there is a spanish channel03:01
coreymon77antiroach: okay, so just disable it all, that should take care of it03:01
elbingbut nobody (between presents) knows about that glib error03:01
jujimufu!obexserver03:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about obexserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:01
jujimufu!search obex03:01
ubotuFound:03:01
elbinggoogle tells about bug reports and somthing about dektop-utils, but didn't work03:01
antiroachcoreymon77 there are several places to dispable the special effects. i have not been able to find how/where to disable that 'popout' crap03:01
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hajhouseantiroach: thanks03:02
jujimufuhow do I search for a package named obexserver?03:02
antiroachjujimufu apt-cache search <name>03:02
jujimufuantiroach: what I mean is, I know there is a package named obexserver, because I've seen guides on the internet which say "do apt-get install obexserver", but I can't find it when I do "sudo aptitude search obex".03:03
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antiroachoh03:04
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antiroachyou probably have to figure out which repository it can be found in. add the repository to sources.list and do apt-get update03:04
coreymon77antiroach: my guess is its in the panel options03:06
antiroachyeah i looked. i cant find it03:06
antiroachjujimufu do a apt-cache search obex03:06
antiroachand see if any of those things in there resemble what you want03:06
antiroachmaybe03:06
antiroachlibopenobex1 - OBEX protocol library03:06
antiroachlibopenobex1-dev - OBEX protocol library - development files03:06
coreymon77antiroach: enable mouseover effects?03:06
sprulemei'm trying to install these drivers http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/build.html , i've tried all the kernel source dirs i can find and this won't let me install to the kernel, whats the path to the kernel with kubuntu?03:06
antiroachcoreymon77 thats disabled03:06
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antiroachcoreymon77 this behavior also happens when im browsing stuff in konqueror03:08
antiroachlike when i switch folders and stuff03:08
coreymon77antiroach: have you looked throughout the appearance settings?03:08
antiroachyep03:08
antiroachit has to exist cuz i bet it would drive too many people insane if there was no way to change it heh03:09
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coreymon77antiroach: not really, most people dont care03:10
antiroachum ok03:10
antiroachstill doesnt help me heh03:10
coreymon77antiroach: try this03:10
antiroachit didnt do this in edgy nor dapper03:10
coreymon77antiroach: settings-keyboard and mouse-mouse-visual feedback on activation03:11
antiroachwow03:12
antiroachi love you03:12
antiroachi would have never even thought to look there.03:12
coreymon77antiroach: neiter would i03:12
coreymon77antiroach: but i figured that it was worth a shot03:12
antiroachand i dont even see how that description means that03:12
antiroachbut thanks anyways!03:12
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antiroacherr. but anyways thanks!03:13
coreymon77antiroach: was that it?03:13
antiroachyep03:13
coreymon77antiroach: oh03:13
antiroachhence the <antiroach> wow03:13
antiroach<antiroach> i love you03:13
antiroach:)03:13
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coreymon77oka03:13
coreymon77y03:13
intelikeywhy can't you use exclamation point in dubble quoted statements without escaping it ?03:14
coreymon77intelikey: what do you mean?03:15
intelikeyexample   : "test !"     or  echo "no !"03:15
coreymon77intelikey:  becuse maybe then it doesnt recognize the statement?03:15
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coreymon77intelikey: i dunno, jsut guessing03:16
antiroachcuz ! is a bash shell command03:16
coreymon77or that03:16
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crimsun! is significant as a builtin to many shells03:16
intelikeyecho "ERROR: $i returned an error !"03:16
antiroachjust escape it. problem solved :)03:16
coreymon77ya03:17
coreymon77sometimes things are the way they are and you jsut have to live with them03:17
intelikeycoreymon77 not on my box  :)03:17
intelikeythis is linux.  i'll recompile bash if i have too...  :)03:18
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crimsunmost modern shells have builtins for !, so contextually it's not a literal ! unless escaped.  If you want ! to always work as a literal, you need a pure POSIX sh with no extensions03:20
crimsunfor instance, dash does this on a Debian-based install03:20
crimsun(and Ubuntu by extension)03:21
intelikeycrimsun hmmm ok.   thanks.03:21
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werswhat's the best app to replace KNetworkManager?03:22
intelikeythat makes sense in more places than just " ! "    i may look into using dash exclusively  for scripting03:22
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CyberHaw1hi.. how to login as root in kubuntu03:24
intelikeysudo -i03:24
CyberHaw1yeah i want to login to kde03:24
intelikeyno can do without changing some things03:25
CyberHaw1how to do that, how to allow GDM permissions03:25
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intelikeyCyberHaw1 edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf03:25
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intelikeyCyberHaw1 i suppose you have set a root password ?    and let me caution that some things won't work for root.03:26
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CyberHaw1thanks but the issue is that i have a usb drive03:27
CyberHaw1each time i plug it in03:27
CyberHaw1i need to su root and then load it maually03:28
antiroachyou can sudo -s03:28
intelikeymuch easier to write a script and set sudoers to allow it without passwd03:28
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CyberHaw1hmm...03:32
antiroachallow your user to mount03:32
antiroachand you should be fine03:32
CyberHaw1is their some permission that i can give to the user03:32
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intelikeymust be a thousand ways to clober a cammel, but some of them will get you spitted on...03:32
antiroachlol03:32
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CyberHaw1i don't see a mount group to add03:32
intelikeyit would be usb  or  disks03:32
CyberHaw1i tried disk it does not do any thing03:34
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=== intelikey wonders >>> ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/bin/mount * ,/bin/umount * <<<< why isn't that line in sudoers by default ?
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Arwenum, because it's insecure?03:39
intelikeyand yes i can think of several reasons it's unsafe,  almost as   %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL03:41
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CyberHaw1time to go bye, thanks for the help intelikey03:41
CyberHaw1bye03:41
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intelikeyArwen it's only unsafe if a malicious user gets ahold of it...  :)03:41
SillyZthinking about moving up the food chain a bit to kubuntu from ubuntu, any specific advantages im going to gain in Kubuntu other than KDE ?03:41
ArwenSillyZ, no03:42
intelikeybetter support ?03:42
intelikey:)03:42
SillyZhopefully intelikey03:42
Arwenin fact, you lose all those custom config tools that are written for Ubuntu03:42
SillyZwell a lil better support for the loss of some scripts I think is well worth it03:42
SillyZ#ubuntu is bout a nightmare03:42
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intelikeyyeah it really is.   i needs an overflow  and limit set at about 50003:43
Arwenye..03:43
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SillyZanyone running on a Dell E-1705 by chance?03:44
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SillyZgot a philips dvdr/rw drive, can burn but its like the disc is blank after burning03:44
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intelikeyburner not set in dummy mode is it ?03:45
intelikeydummy mode does every thing except turn the lazor on.03:45
intelikeyburner/burning app03:46
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SillyZnope03:47
SillyZmade sure of that03:47
antiroachdid you try ejecting and putting the disc back in03:47
antiroachafter burning03:47
intelikeydid you look closely at the disk to see if it was burned or no ?03:48
intelikeywell on cdr03:48
SillyZyup03:48
SillyZcdr's are fine, its only dvd's thats the problem03:48
SillyZand yes, im making sure its set to dvd-5 not dvd-903:48
intelikey!dvd03:49
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:49
SillyZplaying is fine03:49
SillyZburning is the problem03:49
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intelikeyyeah i thought there as a link there about burning03:49
intelikeythe infonodes don't last long....03:49
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antiroachwhat prog do you use to burn03:51
SillyZk ill check it out03:51
SillyZgnomebaker atm03:51
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antiroachoh. i use k3b :)03:51
SillyZIm still in ubuntu, but I have Kubuntnu downloading now03:51
antiroachcool03:51
timmayanyone know of a way I can view IE specific webpages in kubuntu?03:51
intelikeytell your browser to ident itself as ie ?03:52
timmayhow?03:52
intelikeyin the settings  from the dropdown menu03:52
intelikeyit's kinda browser specific03:53
intelikeyand i don't use ff03:53
timmayok03:54
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intelikeydoesn't look like very many of the "real help" here right now so you're stuck with us second class citicens03:55
intelikeyerrr crimsun excepted03:55
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intelikeyDaskreech live cd today ?03:57
WillJitsuI'm trying to install kubuntu on a HD that already has WinXP. I resize the WinXP partition using Partition Magic and I have 38GB of unallocated space.  When I boot from the kubuntu CD, it loads up, and I hit enter for Install.  It goes through the motions, then gets an error about unable to authenticate the user then xwindows pops up.  Says something about a critical error, I hit OK, then I have a login/pass prompt.  Any ideas what03:57
Daskreechintelikey: Every day03:57
intelikeyWillJitsu bad disk03:58
SillyZdid ya md5sum that iso image ya downloaded ?03:58
SillyZsounds like a bad disc03:58
WillJitsuhmm...  what's a good md5 checker?03:58
SillyZuhm md5sum filename03:58
WillJitsufor windows03:59
ArwenWillJitsu, um....03:59
SillyZmd5sum-Win3203:59
Arwenwhen you boot the CD, there's an option "check for errors"03:59
Arwenand yeah, for Windows, you want "md5sum.exe"03:59
SillyZya thats it, md5sum.exe03:59
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WillJitsu1ad3c003dbcbe27b3265da23b886d047 *kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso04:01
WillJitsuwhat do i check that against?04:01
ArwenWillJitsu, WRONG. you check the files on the CD you burned04:01
DaskreechArwen: What?04:01
DaskreechArwen: he's right04:01
Arwen"md5sum -c <drive/mount point>/md5sums.txt"04:01
DaskreechArwen: :-P04:01
ArwenDaskreech, no, because checking your ISO file doesn't determine whether or not you misburned it04:02
Arwenonly if you downloaded a bad file04:02
DaskreechArwen: lets take it one step at a time :)04:02
WillJitsuArwen: well shouldn't I start with whether I downloaded a good file?04:02
intelikeyanyone know where documentation for dash would be ?04:02
DaskreechWillJitsu: What's the name of the ISO fil?04:02
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Daskreechintelikey: /dev/null ?04:02
intelikeyDaskreech seems to be   yeah04:02
WillJitsuDaskreech: I just pasted it.  kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso04:02
ArwenWillJitsu, eh... whatever04:02
Arwenintelikey, um, /usr/share/doc/dash ?04:03
DaskreechWillJitsu: http://bw.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/feisty/MD5SUMS04:03
Daskreechman -k04:03
DaskreechWillJitsu:  that should help.04:04
intelikeyArwen and you have this dir ?04:04
Arwenyea04:04
WillJitsuwell it looks like i downloaded a good file04:04
intelikeyArwen mmmm well i don't.   dapper must not have had that yet04:04
Arwendash is part of bash (hint hint)04:05
jwallingfordok i have the files from .thunderbird directory that i backed up from a suse distro. I am now on kubuntu and have firefox 1.5. Is there a way to use the backed up email, accounts, and contacts from the v2 dir? I tried this before by just deleating what is in the .mozilla-thunderbird direcotry and putting in the backed up files from the .thunderbird directory. When I did this I could see my mail and accounts however I was04:05
DaskreechWillJitsu: when that checks out :) boot up and the first meu will give you an option to check the CD run that and when it fails reburn the Cd try a slower speed maybe or a new brand of CD-r04:05
jwallingfordgetting some odd error which i cant remember off of the top of my head04:05
WillJitsuDaskreech: will do. thanks again :)04:05
Arwenjwallingford, in english please,,,04:05
intelikeyArwen no.  dash not part of bash  i.e. bash docs have a lot that doesn't apply in dash04:05
Daskreechjwallingford: you have Tbird 2.0 ?04:05
Arwenintelikey, eh, my /usr/share/doc/dash/copyright says it is04:06
DaskreechArwen: a subset of bash doesn't mean part of04:06
DaskreechI would guess04:06
Arwenhmm04:06
jwallingfordsorry no i have tbird 1.5 right now. I had tbird 2.0 before04:06
jwallingfordby .thunderbird directory i have backed up on a dvd is from tbird 2 and im trying to get all of my files back onto tbird 1.504:07
DaskreechArwen: ha ha that looks like reuse of code. I'll try find out and let you know04:07
Arwenjwallingford, copy the actual mail and accounts parts. Don't copy the mail.04:07
ArwenDon't copy the extensions*04:07
Arwenor the config04:07
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Daskreechjwallingford: Right You can find a Tbird 2.0 deb and install it04:08
jwallingfordi have kubuntu 64bit and have been very unsuccessful in getting tbird 2.0 to install :)04:09
intelikeycrap search on tldp.org   "your search for 'dash' does not match any documentation"04:09
jwallingfordi wish i could have tbird 204:09
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intelikeyah  ^  with docs.04:10
Daskreechintelikey: I thought the point of dash was that it is posix04:10
intelikeycatch the last line  there ^04:10
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Daskreech:-)04:11
=== intelikey want's a POSIX shell ! " with docs "
intelikeyi'd kinda like to have a real sh  if you know what i mean.04:12
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Daskreechjwallingford: check getdeb.net04:12
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ahmedguys any way to have a vedio background in ubuntu as in vista ?04:12
Ace2016Hi all04:12
ahmed??04:12
Ace2016anyone know an app that can send stuf into the tray?04:12
Ace2016ahmed: you mean play a video as the wallpaper?04:13
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ahmedyea04:13
maddops770Anyone here using a higher end NVIDIA Card?04:13
ahmedAce2016: ??04:13
Ace2016maddops770: define higher end?04:13
maddops7708800GT 320MB04:14
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Daskreechahmed: I think that you can do that with any video04:14
Daskreechahmed: With a little command line fu :)04:14
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SillyZNvidia GO-7800 here04:14
SillyZwhat ya wanna know maddops770 ?04:15
jwallingfordDaskreech: thunderbird isnt on the getdeb.net site04:15
Daskreechjwallingford: Hmm04:15
jwallingfordhttp://pastebin.ca/552035  this link will show you the files i have backed up from tbrid 204:16
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ahmedDaskreech:  give an example for command line fu04:16
Ace2016ahmed: is this what your after?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35008904:16
jwallingfordand here is what i have in my .mozilla-thunderbird 1.5 dir04:17
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jwallingfordwhat do I do with the extra folders?04:17
jwallingforddo they have anything i need in them?04:17
ahmedits a screen saver04:17
ahmedwell i wana to place a .avi or .wmv or so video as a background04:17
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Daskreechjwallingford: http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=35804:18
jwallingfordDaskreech: should i remove firefox 1.5 before I do this?04:20
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Ace2016http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kwrap?content=54046&PHPSESSID=4d59bc04877a951068726973cba5aad704:20
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Daskreechjwallingford: are you on Kubuntu?04:21
Ace2016ahmed: try that04:21
jwallingfordyes04:21
jwallingford64bit04:21
Daskreechjwallingford: don't think it makes a difference. It might break ubuntu but Kubuntu doesn't have a huge gtk reliance04:21
ahmedAce2016:  thx, dun have kde though04:22
jwallingfordDaskreech: i dont know. I tried installing tbird 2 before and had a lot of issues.04:22
jwallingfordbut i guess i can try this one04:22
Ace2016;|04:22
ahmedAce2016:  i extracted it and ended with a kmdr file ,, wats that ?04:23
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Ace2016its for kommander04:24
Daskreechjwallingford: Why do you have FF 1.5?04:24
DaskreechFeisty comes with 204:24
jwallingfordDaskreech: because that is all that is available with04:24
jwallingfordDaskreech: it does?04:24
intelikeyyeah why do you have ff ?04:24
intelikeyoh that wasn't the question was it...04:24
jwallingfordyou mean tb not ff04:25
jwallingfordwhats wrong with ff and tb?04:25
intelikeyi'm just raz'n ya04:25
Daskreechjwallingford: You asked if you shoudl get rid of Firefox 1.504:25
jwallingfordand why is it that when i goto adept it doesnt have tb 2 available?04:25
DaskreechFeisty comes with FF204:25
jwallingfordoh i ment tbird04:25
Ace2016xwinwrap -ni -o 0.6 -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- mplayer -wid WID -quiet -loop 0 /home/plun/Desktop/DreamScene/aurora8x6.wmv    yea that seems to be it for running stuff04:26
Daskreechjwallingford: Oh then .. sure I think04:26
jwallingfordi have ff2 i need tb2 :)04:26
Daskreechremove dont' purge04:26
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jwallingfordDaskreech: ok i followed dir on http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=358 and when i type thunderbird into konsole i get: bash: thunderbird: command not found04:28
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jwallingfordi followed dir exactly "copy, paste"04:28
agentIs there a way to disable sorting of files and folders in Konqueror?04:28
intelikeyagent sort by dir order ?04:29
agentintelikey: Yes and no. Not only by dir, but by file. I would like to not have any sorting done. My goal is to have Konqueror act like the Desktop where unless it is told to otherwise, it does not sort any files or folders and saves their positioning.04:30
intelikeyagent dir order is "unsorted"  lists in the order they were created04:31
Ace2016intelikey: i think he wants the positions of icons saved04:32
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intelikeyyou mean un-alined ?04:32
intelikeydon't know about that...04:32
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agentAce2016: That is what I would like.04:33
agentintelikey: Yes, un-aligned. Like on the KDE desktop.04:34
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Daskreechagent: try Gnome04:34
Ace2016someone in #kde might know but i don't  think its possible04:34
intelikeydon't know anything about it agent   never tried.04:34
DaskreechGnome has a spatial desktop04:34
agentDaskreech: No thank you. :)04:34
Daskreechsounds like you used to use Mac04:34
agentAce2016: Yeah, I do not think it is possible either.04:34
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Daskreechagent: ask in #kde :-)04:35
intelikeyagent you could use nautilus for that    wouldn't have to be all of gnome.04:35
jwallingfordDaskreech: ok how do I undo what was done from http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=35804:35
jwallingfordits not working04:35
agentDaskreech: No. I just wanted to play around with neat file navigation ideas. Sort of like lowfat.04:35
Daskreechjwallingford: remove the folder from /opt04:36
Ace2016jwallingford: what do you mean its not working do you get an error?04:36
jwallingfordyes04:36
Daskreechagent: install lowfat :-P :)04:36
jwallingfordDaskreech: bash: thunderbird: command not found04:37
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maddops770Does anyone hav any experience installing the AMD64 driver for Nvidia for the higher end cards 100.xx.xx04:39
agentintelikey: But Konqueror is much more powerful: split windows, embedding, built in 'quicky' terminal, etc.. I was just trying to see if I could expand it further with minimal coding. ;) And yes, I can install lowfat (and have), but that's not the point. If I wanted lowfat I wouldn't have bothered trying to do something somewhat similar in Konqueror. I was hoping it may be easy to add a compositing file preview or something of tha04:39
agentNo big deal though.04:39
Daskreechjwallingford: is it in your path?04:40
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intelikeyagent jucato would be a good one to discuss that with.  unfortunately he's absent without leave04:40
agentintelikey: Is jucato a KDE developer?04:41
Lam_where does KDE Menu Editor save its entry files? one of my entries refuses to save so i'm going to edit it manually04:41
jwallingfordDaskreech: its not in /opt04:41
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Daskreechjwallingford: where did you extract it to?04:41
intelikeyagent developer yes.  kde specific no.04:42
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jwallingfordI just copied and past the code from that site. I thought it installed it :)04:42
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Daskreechagent: you should really be trying hit up dolphin :)04:42
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Daskreechjwallingford: ha ha can you do history | tail 20  then pastebin it?04:43
intelikey:)04:43
jwallingfordhaha wow im dumb. forgot to extract04:43
jwallingfordDaskreech: ok this is the error i get and have been getting when i try to launch thunderbird: /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: not found04:44
Daskreechor copy and paste eh? :-)04:44
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agentDaskreech: Why? Dolphin is a "simplified" file manager. Konqueror is the more "advanced" file manager. Seems like Konqueror is the best bet for such things. Not to mention that it already has more functionality than any other file manager on KDE or GNOME which would make things easier.04:45
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Daskreechagent: they share code in any case so anything in one will find it's way into he other but dolphin is considered more experimental so I'd advise hitting up devs in #kde4-devel with the idea04:47
mike_i have no maximize/minimize buttons in beryl?04:47
Daskreechjwallingford: I'm not sure waht you have done so .. I'd say figure out where you extracted it04:47
jwallingfordi did figure it out its in /opt04:47
agentDaskreech: Thank you for the tips!04:47
Daskreech!beryl04:47
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:47
Daskreechjwallingford: in thunderbird ?04:48
jwallingfordi extracted all files to /opt/thunderbird04:48
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Daskreechagent: sure. Hope you get it into testing. I'd hate it but it's bound to attract some Fruits :)04:48
Daskreechjwallingford: cool find thunderbird-bin under that04:49
jwallingfordbut when i run thunderbird in konsole i get: /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: not found04:49
jwallingfordok04:49
jwallingfordDaskreech: Ok I see thunderbird-bin04:49
Daskreechjwallingford: what is the path to it?04:50
jwallingford opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin04:50
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intelikey~/opt ?04:51
Daskreechjwallingford: opt or /opt ?04:51
jwallingford /opt sorry04:51
jwallingfordthe only thing i see on google about this is written in german or something04:53
Daskreechthe link I gave you was in English :)04:53
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Daskreechjwallingford: there is a /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh I guess ?04:53
jwallingfordDaskreech: I know. That is how I installed tbird 2... i followed those dir's exactly and now i am getting this error. the only pages on google i could find about this error were in german04:54
Daskreechwhat are you doing to run thunderbird?04:54
DaskreechJust typing thunderbird ?04:54
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jwallingfordyes04:55
jwallingfordshould i try and run mozilla-installer-bin? thats in the thunderbird dir04:55
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Daskreechjwallingford: What happens if you just run thunderbird-bin directly04:56
Daskreechhi mike_04:56
Corpisdoes kubuntu have makeinstall?04:57
Daskreech!b-e | Corpis04:57
ubotuCorpis: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:57
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jwallingfordwhat do i need to do to run thunderbird-bin? if i just type in thunderbird-bin in konsold i get bash: thunderbird-bin: command not found04:58
Daskreechjwallingford: use the full path04:58
jwallingfordi am in the thunderbird dir04:58
jwallingfordbash: /opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: No such file or directory04:59
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Daskreechjwallingford: I thought you said there was one there?04:59
jwallingfordthere is :)05:00
jwallingfordhttp://rafb.net/p/mjQ80H21.html05:01
jwallingfordthose are all of the files in the /opt/thunderbird dir05:01
jwallingford ls -l05:01
zach__Greets, everyone...05:02
jwallingfordhello05:02
jwallingfordzach__:05:03
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Daskreechjwallingford: did you rerun the last three lines from the article after you extracted the tarball?05:04
zach__I'm switching the family desktop at my aunt's over to Kubuntu, and I want all the users to have the same settings. Would it be safe to just log into each account and copy the contents of the home folder for the one I already set up into that user's home folder? (Sorry for the stilted wording, not sure how else to put it.)05:04
jwallingfordhttp://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.trogu.it/2007/04/25/installare-thunderbird-2-su-ubuntu-704/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D/opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh:%2B424:%2B/opt/thunderbird/thunderbird-bin:%2Bnot%2Bfound%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:official%26hs%3DXiB05:05
zach__e.g., Set up everything the way I want it for Zach's account, log into Connor's account, and copy everything from /home/zach/ into /home/connor - Would that cause problems?05:06
Daskreechzach__: set the settings that you want in /etc/skel before you start making users05:06
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Daskreechzach__: all new users get the settings from /etc/skel05:07
jwallingfordDaskreech: yes i did05:07
zach__Daskreech: Not sure if I follow you. So should I just do "sudo cp -R /home/zach/* /etc/skel" and then set up the accounts?05:08
Daskreechjwallingford: what do you get if you do a cd /opt/thunderbird ; ./thunderbird05:09
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Daskreechzach__: do you plan to have an account for you?05:09
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lostchildHello! Does anyone have any experience with ISPConfig?05:10
zach__Umm... I've already set mostly everything up for Zach05:10
zach__But that account's already in place, if that's what you're asking (it's the one that was used during installation)05:10
jwallingford./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./thunderbird-bin: not found05:10
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lostchildI could use a hand with a login problem I've run in to, can anyone help?05:11
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Daskreechzach__: Right. That account is setup the way you want all others to be setup ?05:12
zach__Daskreech: Right.05:13
intelikeylostchild say it05:13
lostchildThank you!05:13
Daskreechzach__: cp -R ~zach/* ~zach/.* /etc/skel05:14
lostchildI recently installed ISPConfig, got it and all it's services running. Then I decided I would remove the username prefix.05:14
intelikey????   ~zach  is the name ?05:14
Daskreechzach__: though you may want a backup of the default /etc/skel first05:14
Daskreechintelikey: that's the impression I got05:14
zach__Daskreech: Will do. Thanks a lot, that's a huge help.05:14
lostchildSo naturally I had to delete the username and recreate it, with that done, I can no longer login at the shell with that user05:15
Daskreechzach__: I would say make a backup of /etc/skel first. If you make a huge error somewhere you can always restore that05:15
jwallingfordDaskreech: give up on me?05:15
intelikeyzach__ just a note.   ~zach != ~/zach05:15
lostchildThe machine simply kicks me back to the login prompt. Ubuntu 7.04 Server05:15
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zach__intelikey: I know. Thanks. :-)05:16
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zach__Alright, cool. Thanks again, Daskreech. G'nite.05:16
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cicciohello!05:17
intelikeylostchild grep <username> /etc/passwd05:17
lostchildHmm one sec05:17
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ciccioCan yuo speack italian05:17
intelikey!it05:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:17
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Daskreechjwallingford: you have done something wrong :) not sure what.05:17
cicciotanks05:18
al_Hi all, I am using VM_ware and I can not remove vmwaretools from my ubuntu05:18
Daskreechjwallingford: can you grep thunderbird-bin /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh05:18
lostchildIf it lists /bin/false does that indicate that the user has no home directory or shell associated with it?05:18
intelikeythat indicates the user has no shell05:18
Daskreechlostchild: it means the user will be logged out as soon as they login05:18
intelikeyyou login and it runs /bin/false as your shell05:19
lostchildYes, thank you both!05:19
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jwallingfordDaskreech: I dont know how to grep05:19
intelikeyyou can login without a home.  it will failsafe to /  but you can't login without a shell05:20
Daskreechjwallingford:grep thunderbird-bin /opt/thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh05:20
lostchildI haven't been very successful at finding user management information for Ubuntu05:20
al_Hi all, I am using VM_ware and I can not remove vmwaretools from my ubuntu, I did remove it but keeps sayinI still vave installed, any idea where to start digging?05:20
Daskreechlostchild: It's the same as Linux in general.05:20
intelikeylostchild man useradd    man usermod    man userdel05:20
jwallingfordDaskreech: when i do that nothing happens05:21
lostchildI thought as much, also I'm still learning Linux, most of my experience is with Unix and M$05:21
Daskreechjwallingford: then why...05:21
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jwallingfordDaskreech: http://rafb.net/p/oVMXP433.html05:21
intelikeylostchild there is a 'groups & users'  GUI as well in kde05:21
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lostchildYes, but gui's require resources I cannot spare, and I like the command line.05:22
al_Hi all, I am using VM_ware and I can not remove vmwaretools from my ubuntu, I did remove it but keeps sayinI still vave installed, any idea where to start digging?05:22
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al_Hi all, I am using VM_ware and I can not remove vmwaretools from my ubuntu, I did remove it but keeps saying I still have installed, any idea where to start digging?05:23
intelikeylostchild i stand under you.05:23
Daskreechal_: how did you install it?05:23
lostchildThank you that worked! Mostly I needed a sounding board and the users in the #Ubuntu room were not very helpful.05:23
al_rpm05:23
Daskreechal_: eh?05:24
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al_rpm converted05:24
al_with alien05:24
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rodrigo_hello05:24
rodrigo_does anybody05:25
Dr_willisHmm. vmware tools is a package you install on the OS in the virtual machine isent it?05:25
intelikeyMem usage: 33/250 MB (13%)      running audacity in blackbox digitizing casett tape to .ogg audio    as we speak....05:25
Daskreechal_: what does which vmware say ?05:25
rodrigo_can help me installing cinerela05:25
lostchildintelikey: Do you have much experience with email servers?05:25
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rodrigo_Im a newby in linux05:25
Dr_willisthere was no need to use the rpm package either I belive they got debs05:25
Daskreech!cinelera05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cinelera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
rodrigo_I need some to guide me to the process of installation05:25
Daskreechrodrigo_: can you join #ubuntustudio ?05:25
al_yep, I am using ubuntu on a vmware machine, I installed the vmware tools but did not work so I want to completelly remove it05:26
rodrigo_daskreech that's for media?05:26
intelikeylostchild no.  sorry.   i did kinda set one up one time with fetchmail and sendmail  but that was just a learing exp.   nothing more.05:26
lostchildOr you Daskreech?05:26
rodrigo_useres05:26
Dr_willisal_,  odd. ive had it work befor for me.05:26
wsjuniorwhat's the reason that kubuntu comes with openoffice installed by default instead koffice?05:26
Dr_willisal_,  but i did use the debs05:26
Daskreechrodrigo_: No they are an Ubuntu derivative who have extensive cinelera experience05:26
Daskreechlostchild: sorry?05:26
rodrigo_ok thanks daskreech05:26
rodrigo_!05:26
Daskreechwsjunior: we are moving to a koffice by default05:27
intelikeyDaskreech he asked about mailserver exp.05:27
lostchildNo problem, I was just wondering.05:27
lostchildbrb05:27
DaskreechSoon as it catches up some more with Oo.o for compatibilty05:27
Daskreech!email05:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:27
al_ok, let me explain a little more. I had only one rpm so I used alien to conver it to deb... the I installed the deb and failed05:27
DaskreechDumb bot05:27
Daskreechal_: vmware is on the servers05:27
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Daskreech!vmware05:27
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers05:27
Dr_willisal_,  last i looked. I used the vmware 'install vmware tools' feature and it mounted a cd image that had the deb packages.05:28
wsjuniorDaskreech: U mean .doc support?!05:28
rodrigo_also any one can help me to install my Lexmark05:28
rodrigo_scanner printer?05:28
Dr_willisI dont use alien, so cant help ya with alien-removeable-packages issues. sorry05:28
Daskreechal_: and if you add the commercial repos then you get more stuff I think05:28
Daskreechwsjunior: I'm not sure I got the feeling it was overall support05:28
Dr_willisDaskreech,  hes installing the vmware tools on a ubuntu install inside a vmware session. :) is what i think hes doing.05:28
Daskreechwsjunior: for example kexi has much better .mdb support so it's installed by default05:28
DaskreechDr_willis: ah that's out of my scope05:29
al_ok, I'll give a try to the links.05:29
al_yeap I know I screw it up lol, I just want to fix the mess... thanks for the help ya all05:29
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intelikey"the only way people should ever run linux is inside a vertual machine in windows"05:30
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al_yep, that is what i have a windows runing vmware to get rid of windows :-(05:31
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al_I can not remove windows on this very one machine ... thanks again05:31
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elhello05:37
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Daskreechal_: Sorry I couldn't help05:37
Daskreechjwallingford: What directory are you in?05:37
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K-RyanHas anyone downloaded falconseye?05:39
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K-RyanIt's a nethack clone with a GI, it lags for some reason though.05:39
K-RyanAny thoughts?05:39
K-RyanAnd it skips right to Pick a role05:39
DaskreechK-Ryan: I grabbed it when it just came out like a year and half ago or something05:40
K-RyanNever mind, it's running smooth now >.>05:40
K-RyanI played the Windows version way back05:40
K-RyanAnd found it in the repos the other day05:40
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K-RyanUsually I'm not into rogue likes just because of the difficulty, but with a GI it's easier05:41
K-RyanExcept for DOOM The Rogue-Like05:41
K-RyanThat's fun =)05:41
K-RyanNice and simple...05:41
K-RyanAnd now it's lagging again -.-05:41
Daskreech:-)05:42
Daskreechmay want to do some metrics to see what's being eaten up05:42
K-RyanHmm?05:42
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DaskreechK-Ryan: watch the system guard and see if Memory or CPU or Disk spikes when it lags05:43
K-RyanWell the thing is, only the app lags05:43
K-RyanEverything else runs fine05:44
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K-RyanLike Konversation while chatting05:44
K-RyanOr Amarok playing music05:44
K-RyanOf course with the except of Konversation I turned it all off05:44
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K-RyanBut still, *shrug*05:44
K-RyanI think it's the music05:44
DaskreechK-Ryan: Yeah LInux is really cool when it comes to stuff lilke that05:44
K-RyanHow do I turn it off?05:44
K-RyanAs in, what would I tack onto "falconseye" to disable sound, if you know.05:45
K-RyanCan't find an ingame option to turn it off05:45
DaskreechK-Ryan: read the man page on it05:46
K-Ryan=(05:46
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mattrperryI have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone can direct me on...05:46
K-RyanAsk away05:47
lostchildDoes anyone have any experience with ISPConfig and postfix?05:47
lostchildmatperry: shoot05:47
lostchildmattperry* sorry05:47
Daskreechlostchild: if you apt-get postfix it should be good to go as long as you have a proper setup hostname05:47
mattrperrycan someone point me in the right direction as to how to find out how to make sure that adept update runs at startup when using beryl/kubuntu?05:47
Daskreechmattrperry: startup of the computer or on login ?05:48
mattrperrylogin05:48
jwallingfordDaskreech: /opt/thunderbird05:48
Daskreech!autostart | mattrperry05:48
ubotumattrperry: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:48
Daskreechjwallingford: what does ./thunderbird do ?05:49
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artabrahao what is the mc packag name?05:49
intelikeymc05:49
Dr_willis!info mc05:49
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB05:49
lostchildDaskreech right, I have it setup. When I removed the prefix from the ISPConfig settings I had to recreate my user. That was what cause my user problems. Now I can't send recieve email to that address. The server returns "Relay access denied", it was working.05:50
artabrahaowhen I type apt-get install mc dont find the package05:50
Daskreechartabrahao: you probably don't have universe05:51
intelikeykonsole: mc    doesn't start it ?05:51
intelikeyoh apt doesn't find it...   duh.05:51
intelikey!repos05:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:52
jwallingfordDaskreech:  ./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./thunderbird-bin: not found05:52
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artabrahaoits a fresh install, maybe repositort05:52
K-RyanDaskreech: Homepage has nothing on it =(05:53
DaskreechK-Ryan: home page ?05:53
K-RyanOf Falconseye05:54
Daskreechjwallingford: and ./run-mozilla.sh05:54
DaskreechK-Ryan: look at the man05:54
lostchildSIlly question, what's the command to display name server list?05:54
K-RyanWhat?05:54
DaskreechK-Ryan: open konqueror and type man:/falconseye05:54
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mattrperryubotu, I am still a little green on all this...is there a list of commands somewhere that I can follow to setup the updater to auto check for updates at login etc?05:54
K-RyanAh!05:55
Daskreechmattrperry: adept_updater does that by default05:55
K-Ryanmattrperry: Ubotu is the information bot05:55
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Daskreechmattrperry: Do you see an orange box with a Exclamation mark in the system tray ?05:55
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mattrperryno05:55
intelikeyDaskreech remember "beryl" there05:56
mattrperryI used to before I installed beryl05:56
Daskreechintelikey: that kills kicker ?05:56
intelikeyDaskreech idk.05:56
mattrperrynow that I installed beryl it doesn't come up anymore05:56
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Daskreechmattrperry: ah that would be a problem :)05:56
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artabrahaoWhy in a new installation I cant connectu via putty?05:57
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jwallingfordDaskreech: run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .05:57
intelikeyartabrahao kdm not listening.05:57
Daskreechjwallingford: and ./thunderbird-bin05:58
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Daskreechartabrahao: install openssh05:58
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rodrigohi there05:59
Daskreechmattrperry: in autostart you can run adept_updater if you want a GUI prompt05:59
intelikeyssh is a metapackage that will install openssh-server and openssh-client05:59
rodrigokaskreech05:59
rodrigocan you tell me how do I get into the root05:59
rodrigoin the console?05:59
rodrigoIm a newby in Linux05:59
rodrigoI want to install a program05:59
intelikeysudo -i05:59
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intelikey!root | rodrigo05:59
uboturodrigo: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo05:59
Daskreechrodrigo: you don't need to be root to install a program most of the time05:59
Daskreechrodrigo: which program ?06:00
jwallingfordDaskreech: bash: ./thunderbird-bin: No such file or directory06:00
Daskreechpurpleposeidon: what's wrong with alt+left ?06:00
rodrigodaskreech cinelerra06:00
intelikeywho edited that infonode ?06:00
Daskreechjwallingford: it is there though?06:00
purpleposeidonDaskreech: unspoken standards06:00
intelikeypurpleposeidon khotkeys06:01
mattrperrywhere is autostart?06:01
Daskreechrodrigo: right06:01
purpleposeidonalt-s h06:01
purpleposeidonalt-s hback06:01
intelikey!autostart | mattrperry06:01
ubotumattrperry: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.06:01
artabrahao<Daskreech> tks06:02
Daskreechmattrperry: did you read what ubotu said?06:02
Daskreech oh :)06:02
mattrperryyes but I don't understand it06:02
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rodrigodaskreech you are the first person who send me understandable info about kubuntu06:02
iracan some one tell me why my printer will only print in monochrom after selecting the correct printer in Kubunbtu ?06:02
iraI am using cups06:03
Daskreechmattrperry: in the Folder ~/.kde/Autostart you can make a link to adept_update06:03
Daskreech+r06:03
Dr_willischeck the printer settings. I noticed that some times they pick odd defaults.06:03
rodrigodaskreech: so how can I use sudo for installing the program?06:03
Daskreechrodrigo: Hopefully i was the first person to talk to you06:03
Daskreechrodrigo: you spoke to #ubuntustudio already ?06:03
rodrigodaskreech: not really lol06:03
rodrigoyep nobody is out there06:04
Daskreechblast06:04
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jwallingford_sorry Daskreech my wireless was interupted there for a sec.06:04
Daskreechhow do you have cinelerra ?06:04
rodrigoand cause Im just a recent linuxer I don't have too much linux06:04
rodrigoculture06:04
iraThank you my printer is selected correctly06:04
jwallingford_yes the thunderbird-bin is in the thunderbird dir06:04
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Daskreechrodrigo: how did you get it? from the website ?06:05
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Daskreechjwallingford_: It's there though isn't it?06:05
iraDr_willis any other ideas?06:05
jwallingford_Daskreech: yes it is06:05
Daskreechjwallingford_: That's really wrong06:05
rodrigodaskreech: from the website06:06
Daskreechjwallingford_: who are you logged in as?06:06
rodrigodaskreech I found some installation website06:06
Daskreechrodrigo: ok well then type sudo -i06:06
Daskreechit will ask for a password. It wants your password06:06
rodrigodaskreech: where in the console?06:06
Daskreechrodrigo: affter that you can just follow the site06:06
Daskreechrodrigo: yes06:06
rodrigodaskreech: thanks06:07
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rodrigodaskreech: Hope it works06:07
jwallingford_Daskreech: username is jwallingford06:07
Daskreechrodrigo: as do I06:07
iraany ohter cups ideas?06:07
Daskreechjwallingford_: all the files are owned by root.06:07
WillJitsumy installation of kubuntu locked up at 51%.  I had to restart the computer.  I was installing on the same HD that I have windows xp installed.  Now the computer won't boot.  Is there any way to get back into Windows now?06:07
DaskreechIt shouldn't make a stirstick of difference06:07
Daskreechbut ...06:08
jwallingford_ok so i need to do sudo thunderbird?06:08
iraI went to #cups but they werent home06:08
jwallingford_same error06:08
DaskreechWillJitsu: Yeah You have a windows Cd ?06:08
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intelikeyshoot.  audacity doesn't delete it's temp files when you close them and it just used 100% of my hd06:08
Babblenewbie question, sorta: should I be worried that the installer dialog in the 7.04 installer isn't giving me a progress bar?06:08
Daskreechjwallingford_: no you shouldn't have to06:08
Babble(it does seem to be copying/installing)06:08
intelikeythat means the last 45minutes of recording will have to be redone.06:08
WillJitsuDaskreech: yeah I do.  I tried fixmbr and fixboot. neither fixed it06:09
iraBabble give it 20 min06:09
DaskreechWillJitsu: hmm.06:09
Babbleira: thanks :)06:09
iraok no one on the cups problem?06:10
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WillJitsuDaskreech: please don't tell me I'm screwed :)06:10
jwallingford_Daskreech: i dont care if i have to use kmail i just want my old emails, settings, and contacts :)06:10
rodrigo_daskreech: it didnt' work: Couldn't find package cinelerra06:11
DaskreechWillJitsu: I doubt you are we just need to figure out how much damage has been done06:11
rodrigo_daskreech I downloaded the  program and I have it in my pc06:11
Daskreechrodrigo_: what did you type06:11
iraI think if you get throught the kubuntu install grub will fix it06:11
rodrigo_daskreech: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_2.html#SEC1806:12
rodrigo_what says in there06:12
Daskreechjwallingford_: how soon do you need them?06:12
rodrigo_daskreech:  in how to install it in ubuntu06:12
rodrigo_with the console06:12
Daskreechrodrigo_: you are 64 bit?06:12
rodrigo_ah how I miss the windows setups!06:12
irawhats the key comment to wite the name for you here?06:12
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rodrigo_no I think Im 32 bits06:13
rodrigo_processor06:13
Daskreechrodrigo_: ok and you are in feisty?06:13
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DaskreechHi Jucato :)06:13
rodrigo_I'm not really shure what is feisty but when I use the add remove programs thing it always says that feisty thing06:13
Daskreechagent wanted to talk to you06:13
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jwallingford_Daskreech: i would like them right now :)06:14
Daskreechrodrigo_: ah ok :)06:14
WillJitsuDaskreech: I just replied a repair installation and it went through the whole thing, rebooted, and that same boot error is coming up :(06:14
Daskreechrodrigo_: can you tell me the name of the cinelera file that you have?06:14
rodrigo_sure06:14
WillJitsuDaskreech: no idea why I typed "replied"... I meant "ran"06:14
JucatoDaskreech: hm?06:14
iraWilljitsu can you try reinstalling Kubiuntu06:14
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DaskreechWillJitsu: You ran a repair install? how did you do that?06:15
WillJitsuDaskreech: from the win xp cd06:15
iraDaskreech you can do that via the cd06:15
DaskreechJucato: soon talk to you I'm putting out fires :)06:15
rodrigo_daskreech: sure is  cinelerra-2.1-src.tar.bz206:15
Daskreech!info cinelerra06:15
ubotuPackage cinelerra does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:15
WillJitsuira: I can try, but I doubt it's gonna work.  I think it might be a bad cd or something06:15
JucatoDaskreech: hm.. ok...06:15
Daskreech!find cinelerra06:15
JucatoI might not be available for the next hour or so06:16
irathe issue is the MBR for Willjitsu06:16
rodrigo_daskreech: I feel like in the kinder garden drawing happy suns whit linux06:16
ubotuPackage/file cinelerra does not exist in feisty06:16
rodrigo_daskreech: lol06:16
Daskreechrodrigo_: ok just doing some quick checks06:16
iracan you get to the command line in xp?06:16
rodrigo_daskreech: thanks06:16
Daskreechira: he can't boot is the issue so I would guess no :)06:16
WillJitsuira: only the recovery console from the boot cd06:16
DaskreechWillJitsu: you are on the live Cd now?06:16
WillJitsuDaskreech: no I'm on a separate winxp computer06:16
iraok from the command line "fixboot"06:17
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WillJitsuira: I tried both fixboot and fixmbr06:17
WillJitsuira: neither worked06:17
DaskreechWillJitsu: Ok what did they return? no errors?06:17
irai think that works like the old fdisk /MBR06:17
rodrigo_daskreech: do you know any chanell related to printers?06:17
iracups06:17
Daskreech!printer06:17
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:17
rodrigo_daskreech; and scaner06:17
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Daskreech#cups probably06:17
irano one is home in #cups06:18
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intelikeysane for scanners06:18
WillJitsuira: no errors, says it was written correctly06:18
irathere is one more command let me look it up06:18
rodrigo_thanks06:18
WillJitsuira: I think you're thinking of FIXMBR.  I tried it too :(06:18
Daskreechrodrigo_: what kind of computer do you have? Intel Amd?06:18
DaskreechWillJitsu: what error do you get?06:19
irakixmbr is the other command06:19
irasorry fixmbr06:19
Daskreechfixboot I think06:19
iraat the end of the jibberish say "y"06:19
rodrigo_daskreech an amd06:19
rodrigo_daskreech sempron06:20
irahow do i shortcut a name here?06:20
irathen i think your back to reinstall of xp06:21
irasorry linux06:21
intelikeyWillJitsu could also go ahead and install grub06:21
irape builder can help you with xp06:21
iraI agree grub is the key06:21
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Daskreechrodrigo_: in the console type sudo echo deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./ >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinelerra06:21
Daskreechrodrigo_: wait06:21
rodrigo_I believe there is no drivers in linux06:21
jwallingford_Daskreech: would that be possiable?06:21
Daskreechrodrigo_: in the console type sudo echo 'deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./' >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinelerra06:22
WillJitsuira: I'm loading up the Ultimate Boot CD right now to see if there's something I can use06:22
WillJitsuthere's a program called mbrfix, but there's several options06:22
Daskreechira: shortcut a name ?06:22
Daskreech!tab | ira06:22
ubotuira: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:22
intelikeyWillJitsu also testdisk  in the live CD06:22
irathanks06:22
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marianohi there06:23
jwallingford_Daskreech: ok i am going to remove thunderbird from /opt and im going to install thunderbird using adep i guess06:23
iraDaskreech: yea!06:23
marianonice to meet you guys06:23
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Daskreechintelikey: that can look at boot errors?06:23
iraWillJitsu: googel the command06:24
Daskreechjwallingford_: I'd remove the thunderbid folder and then try reextract it06:24
intelikeymultiple avanues for the removal of the felion epdurmas06:24
iraWillJitsu: google mbrfix06:24
iraok last chance any cups guys?06:25
jwallingford_Daskreech: ok06:25
iraan some one tell me why my printer will only print in monochrom after selecting the correct printer in Kubunbtu ?06:25
rodrigo_daskreech it didnt' work06:25
Daskreechira: #cups is dead?06:25
Dr_willisi have fuound the cups web interface to have more options then the kde or gnome cups interfaces06:25
Daskreechrodrigo_: what did it say ?06:25
rodrigo_bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied06:25
rodrigo_rodrigo@rodrigo-desktop:~$06:25
intelikeyira no.    but have you tried   browser  127.0.0.1:631   ?06:26
Daskreechrodrigo_: the line you put in started with sudo echo ?06:26
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis06:27
intelikeyDaskreech can't sudo the echo    echo 'blah' | sudo tee -a file06:27
Dr_willishowdies06:27
Daskreechintelikey: ahhh06:27
iraintelikey: nice says controlled by printout mode06:27
intelikeyredirrects and pipes are owned by the console not the user.  the user owns the console and sudo affects the command not the console.06:28
irabut what ever i print is B&W06:28
Daskreechrodrigo_: in the console type echo 'deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./' | sudo tee -a  /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinelerra06:28
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Daskreechintelikey: and echo is a builtin06:29
Daskreechwhich can be overridden ..06:29
intelikeyDaskreech yes but also a command  file /bin/echo06:29
Daskreechintelikey: unlike stupid cd :-P06:29
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jwallingford_Daskreech: ok followed directions same as before on website and still get same error06:31
iradamn cups page is still B&W06:31
jwallingford_Daskreech: this is the same error i have been getting, even after reformat and reinstall06:31
intelikeywell one could /bin/dash cd path   i guess and get something that wasn't built into bash   ???06:31
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rodrigodaskreech: are you there06:32
rodrigo??06:32
intelikeyira sorry.   i really know nothing about printers/cupsys06:32
Daskreechjwallingford_: ok .. install tb 1.5 there should be a tb 2 deb by next week06:32
Daskreechrodrigo: Noo shhhhhhhh :)06:32
irawell i liked the web page06:32
rodrigodaskreech06:32
rodrigosorry06:32
Daskreechrodrigo: Sup?06:33
rodrigomy electricity suplier had gone for a long06:33
rodrigodaskreech06:33
iraok thanks all i iwll try #cups maybe they will be home tomorrow06:33
intelikeyira that's the default cupsys way to admin cups06:33
WillJitsuira: ok mbrfix.exe is definitely not working.  when I list the partitions, I see my windows partition, plus 2 linux ones.  do you think the problem has to do with it seeing those linux partitions?  i.e. if I deleted them would it fix the windows one?06:33
Daskreechyes?06:33
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Daskreechrodrigo: want the command again ?06:33
rodrigodaskreech it didn't work06:33
rodrigoplease06:33
iraWillJitsu: no06:33
Daskreechrodrigo_: in the console type echo 'deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./' | sudo tee -a  /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinelerra06:33
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Dr_willisWillJitsu,  i doubt that.06:33
rodrigodaskreech all at the same time?06:34
Daskreechrodrigo: yes06:34
rodrigodaskreech: just copy paste?06:34
iraWillJitsu: can you try reinsalling Kubuntu?06:34
WillJitsuira: yeah lemme give it a try06:34
Daskreechrodrigo: yes from echo to the end06:34
intelikeyWillJitsu not a chance.  but hey it's worth trying  cause if you reinstall linux it will redo all that anyway....06:34
rodrigodaskreech: Ok I'm doing ith06:34
rodrigoit06:34
iraWillJitsu: I think grub wiill fix that at the end06:35
DaskreechWillJitsu: if that computer has net you acn talk to us from there06:35
jwallingford_Daskreech: alright thank you06:35
Daskreechira: don't see how :)06:35
Daskreechjwallingford_: if you hang out here a few times a week I'll shout at you when it comes out06:35
irabecase grub sets up a bootloader for xp06:35
Daskreech!info mozilla-thunderbird gutsy06:36
jwallingford_Daskreech: alright thank you so much for your help06:36
ubotumozilla-thunderbird: Transition package for mozilla-thunderbird rename. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4~rc1-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 57 kB, installed size 104 kB06:36
intelikeyDaskreech if the problem is MBR related it prolly will if the problem is boot sector of the partition it wont.06:36
iraand bypasses the mbr boot06:36
WillJitsuira: yeah grub probably would fix it at the end, but I haven't been able to get that far.  it locked up at 51% last time which is why I'm here :)06:36
Daskreechira: yeah but if Windows can't boot that doesn't make a difference06:36
Daskreechjwallingford_: unless you want to be crazy and get the Gutsy package >_<06:37
intelikeyif the problem is that stupido M$ crap of a system restore partition.....06:37
rodrigodaskreech: echo 'deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./' | sudo tee -a  /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinelerra06:37
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DaskreechWillJitsu: run the Cd check first to make sure06:37
iraDaskreech: my reasoning it that grub will asitane control of the boot secor06:37
Daskreechrodrigo: yes06:37
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rodrigodaskreech: its says that the packages are broken06:37
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artabrahaowhat it the command to descopact with tar keepping the directory estructure?06:38
rodrigoOh this linux thing must be only for shaolin monks06:38
iraand.. it has worked fo ,e :-)06:38
intelikeyooooo   lsb_release06:38
irarodrigo: take the Linux from my hand06:38
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rodrigoira; lol06:38
darwin81Does anyone know if Ktorrent supports multi-tracker torrents?06:39
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rodrigopackages sudos roots06:39
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ira<uses azureus06:39
rodrigoI'm just your setup.exe regular guy you know!06:39
ira<uses any thing06:39
Daskreechrodrigo: I was hoping that wouldn't happen. Cinelerra is a strange duck06:39
Dr_willis Cinelerra IS a strange duck!  i agree06:40
intelikeyodd duck out !06:40
iraDaskreech: I am afrade to pose this but is in in automatix?06:40
Daskreechrodrigo: Most packages in Ubuntu are easier than that even06:40
MinatakuThunderstorm >.<06:40
rodrigodaskreech: never mind you have been very well intended06:40
Daskreechira: it is?06:40
irano but there is a good chance it is06:40
iraI dont know06:40
Daskreechrodrigo: Is that the main reason that you are using ubuntu ?06:40
rodrigodaskreech: is an ethical reason06:41
rodrigoI live in mexico06:41
ira<will look in automatix06:41
rodrigomust  of the Pc' users had pirate software06:41
MinatakuViva Revolucion! Viva Linux!06:41
MinatakuXD06:41
Minataku!automatix | ira06:41
ubotuira: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe06:41
rodrigoso I migrate to Linux for using freeware06:41
Minataku!worksforme | !ira06:41
ubotu!ira: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:41
MinatakuClose enough06:42
Minatakulol06:42
rodrigobut also the license are very expensive06:42
Minatakurodrigo: Indeed06:42
Daskreechrodrigo: No I meant is cinelerra important to you?06:42
rodrigoaaaah06:42
darwin81I've never had any problems with Automatix06:42
intelikey11 cheers for FOSS06:42
Minataku!worksforme | darwin8106:42
ubotudarwin81: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.06:42
iraI never mention it06:42
rodrigowell it's my second priority06:42
intelikeyoh sorry   11_2 cheers   :)06:42
Daskreechrodrigo: First is not pirating ?06:42
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rodrigolol06:43
rodrigowell Kind of06:43
DaskreechWell congrats :)06:43
MinatakuAutomatix2 has caused far too many problems for far too many people to be considered a valid choice06:43
rodrigoIm an graphic designer06:43
Dr_willisi agree with Minataku06:43
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ira< can not look a the unmentionable cant stop adept notifier06:43
Daskreechrodrigo: If Cinelerra is important then try ubuntustudio06:43
Daskreech!ubuntustudio06:43
ubotuubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.06:43
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DaskreechIt comes with Cinelerra as I understand06:43
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intelikeywell   i got all of one concert digitized finnally  only two to go...06:44
Daskreechthey worked really hard to get it in. As i said it's a strange duck06:44
ira<uses protools and sound forge (ducking)06:44
rodrigoto be quite honest06:44
rodrigothe software that can be downloades06:44
rodrigois not as good as premmiere06:44
Daskreechrodrigo: Cinelerra is very good though :)06:44
iraaudiocity?06:45
rodrigoit says so in wikipedia06:45
rodrigothat's why I wanted to install it06:45
Daskreechthey have some license issues as well as strange build practices so .. it's harder than most06:45
Dr_willisso it has to be true! :006:45
Dr_willisnight all06:45
irarodrigo: audiocity?06:45
intelikey!info audacity06:45
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB06:45
rodrigomy first priority is running my scaner printer06:46
rodrigofor scanning my draws06:46
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rodrigobut if I can't install a program now install a scaner printer06:46
rodrigo!!!06:46
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ira<wars dr dentons06:46
iraknight all06:47
intelikeynite ira06:47
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rodrigoira; I also try to install06:48
rodrigoardour06:48
rodrigoira: ardour but it has a problem with the jack thing06:48
intelikeyman ira went already...06:48
rodrigodouh!06:48
rodrigowell the only program that had work for my need is the gimp!06:49
rodrigoneeds}06:49
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david_heyz06:50
david_anyone here know how to install java?06:50
intelikey!java06:50
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:50
david_i think i have it installed but any java applet, like frostwire just has white06:50
intelikeyda' bot does06:50
david_lolz i guess so06:51
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rodrigohey daskreech06:51
rodrigoI must go now06:51
rodrigoIm begining to think instead I learn this I save money and buy me a Mac06:52
rodrigolol!06:52
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Daskreechrodrigo: ok hopefully this will get sorted out soon06:52
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intelikeyrodrigo ok. you go now.  you come back soon.  ok06:52
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rodrigoDaksreech: thanks for your help man take care06:53
Daskreechrodrigo: I think that there is an easier way to install cinelerra I'll look06:54
Daskreechrodrigo: !!06:54
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intelikey11 cheers for Daskreech !06:55
Daskreechrodrigo: can you press alt+f2 then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:56
intelikeyyou put out all the fires in the channel....06:56
DaskreechWell actually 4 of them still aren't out06:56
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intelikeywell you watered them down at least  :)06:56
intelikeyok just 10 cheers then.06:57
DaskreechIra still can't print in colour rodrigo still can't scan (though I haven't looked at that) WillJitsu still isn't booting (as far as I know) and jwallingford is Tb less06:57
Daskreech:-)06:57
Daskreechrodrigo: Hello? I found the easier way06:57
WillJitsuDaskreech: still working on it :)06:57
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Daskreech:-)06:58
intelikeyWillJitsu what os do you have running there ?   is it a linux live cd  ?06:58
DaskreechWindows06:59
WillJitsuintelikey: I'm on a winxp box right now.  I'm currently installing kubuntu from the live cd06:59
intelikeyWillJitsu same box ?06:59
WillJitsuintelikey: nope06:59
rodrigodaskreech: sorry friend I went where the king goes alone06:59
intelikeyk then the "box in question"  is running a live linux    correct ?07:00
rodrigook so what I must do?07:00
Daskreechrodrigo: can you press alt+f2 then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:00
WillJitsuintelikeyl: yes it is07:00
intelikeyWillJitsu and you are in the install process ?07:00
WillJitsuintelikey: yes07:00
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intelikeyWillJitsu k.   i won't interrupt that.07:01
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rodrigodaskreech07:01
rodrigoI'm in there!07:01
intelikeyWillJitsu if it hangs again "we hope it doesn't" then buzz me.07:02
rodrigodaskreech source list07:02
Daskreechrodrigo: ok what does the bottom line say ?07:02
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rodrigosorry Im not very good english speaker  bottom means the top07:02
rodrigoor the lasst one (down)07:02
Daskreechrodrigo: yes07:02
intelikeydown07:02
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rodrigohehe ok07:03
rodrigohttp://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/dapper/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./07:03
intelikeyshould start with     deb07:03
Daskreechrodrigo: change the word dapper there to feisty07:03
Daskreechrodrigo: Yes is the first thing deb ?07:04
rodrigook07:04
rodrigodaskreech: done07:04
rodrigonow what should I do?07:04
Daskreechrodrigo: it starts with the word deb ?07:05
rodrigoI also miss my spanish english dictionary07:05
rodrigoof encarta07:05
Daskreech  deb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/athlonxp/ ./07:05
intelikeydeb http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cenelerra/athlonxp/ ./07:05
DaskreechThat's what it says ?07:05
rodrigothe bottom line?07:05
Daskreechyes07:05
rodrigoyes07:05
DaskreechOk07:06
Daskreechsave it07:06
intelikeyall one line      ^07:06
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rodrigoI change the world07:06
intelikeyall one line                     ^07:06
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rodrigoin file07:06
rodrigo?07:06
rodrigomenu?07:06
Daskreechrodrigo: in the terminal type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install cinelerra07:06
Daskreechrodrigo: Ctrl+S07:06
mtvwhat is the command to find out the kernel?07:06
rodrigowow07:06
Daskreech:-)07:06
rodrigoman doing all of this is magic for me07:06
rodrigook07:07
intelikeymtv uname07:07
intelikeymtv uname -a07:07
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mtvyep, just thought of it.  Memory lapse07:07
mtvthank you07:07
intelikeyfor all info  -r for release07:07
Daskreechrodrigo: there is an easier GUI way but I'll try to avoid that since you are not an english speaker07:08
joshua__hi07:08
rodrigoyep07:08
rodrigoIf I have a dictionary it encrase my english skills a lot07:08
rodrigoI'll search a dictionary07:08
rodrigoin the apt program07:08
MinatakuLinux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux07:08
MinatakuMy uname -a output :D07:08
intelikeystardict07:09
joshua__i'm having some issues07:09
rodrigonable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:09
rodrigorodrigo@rodrigo-desktop:~$07:09
rodrigohey daskreed07:09
rodrigoto be honest07:09
rodrigoI'm done with cinellera07:09
rodrigomaybe you can help me with another thing more important07:09
rodrigoby now07:09
rodrigois about my printer/scanner07:10
rodrigoI don't know if it can works in kubuntu07:10
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Minataku!sane07:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:10
MinatakuWTF!?07:10
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intelikeyjoshua__ don't wait for an invitation to ask...07:11
Minataku!scanner07:11
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners07:11
Daskreechrodrigo: do you have adept or another terminal open installing a program?07:11
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rodrigoyes adept07:11
rodrigoIm downloading blender07:11
rodrigo3d studio07:11
Daskreechrodrigo: ah :-)07:11
rodrigoyeeah!07:11
Daskreechrodrigo: ok07:11
rodrigobut honestly07:11
rodrigoI'm done with that07:11
rodrigoIs more important to me to be able to scan07:12
Daskreechwhen that's done press Fetch Updates and Cinelerra should be there07:12
joshua__Anyone know how I can get my dvd to run?07:12
Daskreech!scanner | rodrigo07:12
uboturodrigo: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners07:12
Daskreech!dvd | joshua__07:12
ubotujoshua__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:12
intelikey!dvd | joshua__07:12
DaskreechI win :)07:12
intelikeyquick draw07:12
joshua__lol well that works, i got the dvd css2 andd I can't get it to configure right07:13
intelikey11 cheers for quick draw Daskreech07:13
rodrigodaskreech you mean that cinellera will appaear07:13
rodrigoin the adept installer07:13
Daskreechrodrigo: Yes07:14
rodrigobecause we do all that coding stuff?07:14
Daskreechrodrigo: Yes we are telling adept the right server that has cinelerra07:14
mtvwhat command do i use to transfer all the files within a folder, but not the folder itself07:14
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rodrigodaskreech Oh well, if you want to win your angel wings if you do something07:14
Daskreechmtv cp dir/* /new/place07:14
intelikeycp path/* new/path/07:15
rodrigolike that for every body07:15
Daskreechrodrigo: s long as i'm awake and have net07:15
rodrigofor newby digital artists all over the word!07:15
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mtvthank you07:15
joshua__i have a version of libdvdcss2 1.2.9 i  believe, when i try yto configure it it states: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check07:15
rodrigoso where I found if can make my lexmark scanner run?07:15
rodrigowith kubuntu?07:15
Daskreech!scanner | rodrigo07:16
uboturodrigo: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners07:16
Daskreechread those ^^^07:16
Daskreechjoshua__: did you read the link that ubotu gave to you?07:16
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joshua__yes, do the seveas packages include libdvdcss2?07:18
Daskreechyes07:18
rodrigodaskreech does I paste that in the console?07:19
joshua__so I just download the package and use adept and install the package and it should work?07:19
Daskreechrodrigo: read the second link first :) find your scanner07:19
rodrigook07:19
intelikeywww-browser https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo07:19
intelikeyyou can paste that in ^07:20
intelikeywww-browser https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners07:20
intelikeyor that ^07:20
intelikeyor both07:20
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intelikeyam i rambling again07:20
rodrigoOh my07:20
rodrigowell this is my day07:20
JucatoQuestion: anyone familiar with bluetooth dial up (using GPRS)? I can browse now and connect to IM, but I can't connect to IRC07:21
rodrigowhat is next a dog shall pee me now?07:21
rodrigoYour scanner is not supported in Ubuntu. The most common type of scanner not supported is old parallel port or Lexmark All-in-One printer/scanner/faxes07:21
rodrigoLexmark all in one07:21
rodrigoIm gonna get crazy now07:21
Daskreechwow07:21
rodrigodamn"07:22
intelikeyyep lexmarks leave out the chips and let the software do the work...07:22
intelikeylike winmodems07:22
rodrigoany one interested in a lexmark all in one?07:22
intelikey\!i07:22
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Daskreechintelikey: geek07:23
intelikey11_2 cheers for geeks  !07:23
Daskreechrodrigo: please write a letter to lexmark letting them know that you would like linux support07:23
rodrigodaskreech: Ok Im not a programmer but I think that very clear07:23
rodrigoI'll put it in my blog07:24
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rodrigoif any one of you want to practice spanish you are very welcome07:24
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intelikeyrodrigo you can thank M$ for part of that issue.   they encurrage hardware makers to build "for windows only"07:25
rodrigoyep07:25
rodrigothat's the thing07:25
rodrigowhere does the competence and antitrust practices are now?07:25
mtvwhen cp kernel header files for vmware, i get ommitting directory for most of the files.  What am i doing wrong?07:25
Admiral_Chicagorodrigo: i did the same thing. wrote them a letter, told them i don't want their paper weight07:26
rodrigobut does it works?07:26
Daskreechjoshua__: type in sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh07:26
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rodrigoI don't want to get political07:26
rodrigobut does corporates cares about that?07:26
Daskreechrodrigo: don't then. just let them know that you Own a lexmark and use Linux and would like it to work07:27
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rodrigowell07:27
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Daskreechrodrigo: If you don't buy anything they make cause it won't work of course they care :)07:27
intelikeyand dummies like 'us' buy those things,  that's the real problem.  not the companies.  they want our money; nothing inhearantly wrong with that: but, we don't realize that we shave off our head with such purchaces...07:27
Jucatohas anyone had touchpad problems on a fresh install of Feisty?07:27
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rodrigoI will paste it in my blog and send an e-mail07:27
rodrigothere is not to many options07:27
DaskreechI've had great joy with Feisty and laptops outside of suspend07:27
rodrigofor using software in the licensed and corporated word07:28
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MinatakuMy Lexmark AIO is a standalone unit07:28
Daskreechrodrigo: but your voice will be heard that is something good07:28
rodrigofor developing countries07:28
joshua__i am using Feisty and have had no problem07:28
DaskreechMinataku: Works?07:28
MinatakuNever tried07:28
MinatakuBut I know all the software for printing is inside it07:28
MinatakuSince it can be used without a PC07:28
JucatoDaskreech: somehow the touchpad's "special" features don't work :(07:28
Minataku!synaptics | Jucato07:28
ubotuJucato: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad07:29
rodrigoonly (here comes dramatic music) using pirated software07:29
DaskreechJucato: basic stuff works?07:29
JucatoMinataku: I konw. I was talking about ootb07:29
intelikeyMinataku yeah stand-alones are a totally different storry.07:29
JucatoDaskreech: very basic. yes. but I can remember the special areas working in Edgy out of the box...07:29
joshua__Daskreech: It saysyy command not found07:29
rodrigowell thankyou guys any way07:29
rodrigosee you later07:30
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Daskreechrodrigo: Sorry about the lexmark07:30
MinatakuI did have to self-repair it, though07:30
joshua__i  am very new at Linux so don't shoot! lol07:31
MinatakuStrip it all the way down to the very bottom and glue a small plastic gear back together07:31
Daskreechjoshua__: one second07:31
intelikeymaybe people should only buy 'for windows only' hardware,  then when it's stolen the thief can't use free software on it.....     or maybe not... ?07:31
joshua__Daskreech: thanks07:31
DaskreechJucato: Do you know which od hte Seveas repos have dvdcss?07:31
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Jucatonope07:31
intelikey!dvd07:31
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:31
Daskreechintelikey: Look at the Seveas page07:32
Daskreechlots of choices with no break down of what's in them07:32
intelikeyso add all use for that package and disable all07:32
intelikeynot a problem.07:32
JucatoDaskreech: Seveas Extras. there's actually a breakdown of what's in them07:34
intelikeyDaskreech i only see one seveas repo on that page   6 "mirrors" of it07:34
joshua__should there be more on there?07:35
intelikeynow you've ran my time up.  i've used a web browser for 1016  today...     see what you did....07:35
joshua__i'm sorry? if that is any consolation07:36
intelikey1016 seconds that is.07:36
Daskreechjoshua__: : in the console type echo 'deb http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/ feisty-seveas extras' | sudo tee -a  /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss207:36
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intelikeyvery even07:36
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joshua__umm dimme a min lol07:37
intelikeytheplayboymansion.net   heh07:37
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DaskreechYeah I'm thinking that the nixternal URL is broken07:38
joshua__do I type &&  along with the first sudod command07:38
joshua__sudo*07:39
Daskreechjoshua__: yes07:39
joshua__k07:39
Daskreechfrom echo to the end is one command07:39
SillyZnow this is entertaining.... damn dvd-r is supposed to be able to burn at 16x, but when i check it while its burning its 8.2x07:40
nixternalDaskreech: the nixternal URL?07:40
intelikeyconditionall expressions    com1. && com2. || com3.     run com1  and if it finishes successfully then run com2   followed by if either com1 or com2 failed run com307:40
Daskreechnixternal: sorry imbrandon07:40
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intelikeyprepending the NOT sign (!)  will invert the condition     com1 && ! com2 && com3       runs com1 if successful runs com2 if it fails runs com307:42
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joshua__well it said setting up libdvdcss1.2.9, i reckon it worked07:43
Daskreechjoshua__: Of course it did :)07:43
joshua__lol, i got a hell of alot still to learn07:43
intelikeymajor differance in the two examples is that  in example 1  com3 runs if either fail  while in example 2  only if com2 succedes and com2 fails.07:44
joshua__i have a good grasp on extracting, and installing from command, but dang07:44
intelikeysorry    com1 succedes and com2 fails   ^07:44
Daskreechjoshua__: want me to explain what you just did?07:44
intelikeyconversly   com1 ; com2 ; com3     runs com1 2 and 3 unconditionally07:45
joshua__well from what i gather, i found the repositoryy at that site found the listing of the package, extracted, installed, and updated the package all from that website?07:45
joshua__andi 'm not close at all am i?07:45
joshua__lol07:46
intelikeyyeah not far off.07:46
ardchoilleintelikey: You should write a little tutorial about that07:46
intelikeyardchoille i just did07:46
intelikeyfeel free to take notes07:46
intelikey:)07:46
ardchoilleintelikey: hehe07:46
intelikeythought you'd like that07:47
ardchoilleI'll add that to my wiki07:47
Daskreechjoshua__: yes you added a server with a list of packages then updated the list of programs you are allowed to install then chose one to install07:47
joshua__i thought so07:48
joshua__i was wondering which mirror had dit07:48
intelikeyardchoille let me add one other thing.       com1 & com2    will run com1 in the background and com2 in the forground at the same time.07:48
ardchoilleThank you :)07:48
intelikeyand do correct my  com2 success com2    typo above  ^07:49
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joshua__heh07:50
DaskreechWith good reason07:50
intelikeyi like that title better than the other one they gave me...07:50
ardchoilleintelikey: lol, you're only the king cuz I don't type much in this chan07:50
DaskreechYou out talk ubotu :)07:50
intelikey:)07:50
intelikeyyeah i know.07:50
joshua__i know this may be a stupid question: how do you force quit a program?07:50
intelikeykill it07:51
Daskreechjoshua__: what kind of program?07:51
intelikeykillall it's parrent07:51
ardchoilleintelikey: There's another tut :)07:51
joshua__Daskreech: Kaffeine and Xine are both being retarded07:51
joshua__now it's xine07:52
joshua__kaffeine closed07:52
intelikeyfuser -k filename      kill `pidof appname`     killall appname   (be careful that will get them all)07:52
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intelikeymy personal favorite is     sudo kill -9 -1      but it's not for the faint of heart   :)07:53
intelikeyor the gui user07:53
ardchoilleWhat does that do?07:53
joshua__bah...07:53
intelikeykills everything but the kernel and init07:53
Daskreechjoshua__: alt+ctrl+Esc07:54
joshua__heee hee i like that07:55
DaskreechDon't click on your desktop07:55
joshua__i noticed one click and the window gone07:55
intelikeysudo killall5     is a milder form of that.  it kills most things   but leaves the shell that called it, running.    thus probably wont kill a gui either.07:55
Daskreechjoshua__: yeah07:55
joshua__now the moment of truth tryying to get the dvd to playy07:56
joshua__i just unmounted it, now i poppedd it bback in07:57
intelikeyi really should go,     no i really should have went several hours ago.07:57
joshua__i am going to play ddvd with kaffeine07:57
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joshua__and nothing is happening07:58
joshua__kaffeine started to load then it disappeared07:58
joshua__let's try xine07:59
joshua__nope not working there either08:00
joshua__bah08:00
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joshua__any ideas fellas08:01
Daskreechmplayer ?08:01
joshua__trying it now08:02
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Daskreechhmm08:03
Daskreech!bluray08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bluray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
SillyZq: how do i get the kernel-sources installed, Id like to build a customized kernel08:03
Daskreech!hddvd08:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hddvd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
intelikeyinfo them08:03
Daskreech!kernel08:03
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild08:03
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SillyZThanks Daskreech08:04
blekoshi anybody knows how i can turn on automatic spellcheck in kmail?08:05
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SillyZIve got a dazzle, dvc-100 and the code in the driver has to be changed to recognize the different device id, from 0207 to 021a.... thus the custom kernel, as i have to rebuild the modules08:05
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jeanmasshi08:06
joshua__can't find my dvd to load now08:07
deweyhi SillyZ08:07
jeanmassi want to listen a web radio, but conqueror and firefox say i need realplayer08:07
SillyZdewey!!08:07
jeanmasswhere can i get the codec?08:07
SillyZhow ya been  bro!08:07
jeanmassdont want the player...08:07
jeanmassjust the codec08:07
deweySillyZ: fine and you?08:07
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Daskreech!real08:07
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:07
jeanmassthans Daskreech08:07
SillyZdewey, same ol same just grinding along08:08
SillyZman been a looonnngggg time08:08
dewey:)08:08
jeanmassthe new restrictedformats is not as clear as the old one08:08
deweySillyZ: yeap my kubuntu is borked so I am on something else!08:08
SillyZtalked to habbe over in sweden a while ago, seems to be doing good for himself08:08
jeanmassbecause it makes you install evrything08:08
jeanmassjust need real08:08
deweygreat08:08
SillyZwhats up w/ your Kubuntu?08:08
joshua__Daskreech: i am getting a fatal error with trying to play the dvd now08:09
Daskreechjeanmass: install libxine-extracodecs and see if that gets you sorted08:09
deweygrub stops and I think mbr is messed up or partition table borked.08:09
Daskreechjoshua__: what error?08:09
jeanmassalready have it08:09
SillyZjoshua__, you prolly need the dvd2css codec, go download automatix    (google it) , install it... and should solve all your problems08:09
joshua__Daskreech: lol geesh08:10
deweyinstalled something else on other hda and it said it could not read partition table in hdb!08:10
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SillyZouch08:10
Daskreechjoshua__: ha sorry :) I've never tried to install DVD codecs or i'd tell you the quick way to do it08:10
Daskreechjeanmass: there is a real section near the end08:10
SillyZautomatix, download, install, codecs, done08:10
joshua__Error opening/initializing the selected video_out(-vo) device08:10
deweyso soon off to by another hd I think.08:11
joshua__Dask: It's kewl, i'm learning and i'd rather learn the hard wayy08:11
SillyZya its soundin like it be a hockeypuck there dewey08:11
DaskreechHmm I've seen that before. I think that it just needs redirection or something08:11
SillyZhows hawk and the gang? havent been on freenode in forever08:11
jeanmassok thanx08:11
deweyhawk seems to be fine08:11
joshua__SillyZ, i'll try Automatix08:12
SillyZits all pretty self explanitory over there with automatix08:12
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SillyZdewey, did some massive upgrading here in the last few months, dell e-1705, 2gb ram, 17" screen, Nvidia 7800.....08:13
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SillyZwine plays world of warcraft like there aint no tommorow08:13
jeanmassif libxine-extracodecs is installed, should i be able to read real fileS?08:14
deweylol great08:14
jeanmassor shoud i install something else?08:14
Daskreechjeanmass: What real files?08:14
joshua__lol nice08:14
SillyZautomatix has codecs for realmedia08:14
deweySillyZ: looking at getting dell with linux desktop on it soon.08:14
Daskreechjeanmass: a few can only be read by the official real player08:14
SillyZListen to me bro, I used to be an op over on #mandrake once upon a lifetime or three ago08:14
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deweySillyZ: yeap08:15
SillyZdont get linux with the dell laptop08:15
SillyZthey dropped their complete care program for it08:15
intelikey!automatix | SillyZ08:15
ubotuSillyZ: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe08:15
deweySillyZ: ok08:15
jeanmassi want to listen to this radio http://www.radioclassique.fr08:15
jeanmassbut i can't08:15
Daskreechdewey: tell them you are getting it for Linux though :)08:15
SillyZintelikey, it works ran it here and works fine08:15
intelikey!WorksForMe | SillyZ08:15
ubotuSillyZ: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.08:15
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deweySillyZ: I have an ibook to run linux08:16
Daskreechjeanmass: hmm a radio station. Those are normally crypted somehow08:16
SillyZwhy do I feel the honoray boot to the head coming?08:16
SillyZrofl08:16
deweyDaskreech: yeah kubuntu and mandriva or frugalware.08:16
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joshua__well hell08:17
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Daskreechjeanmass: I'd probably start with helix player08:17
Bonesanyone ever have an issue with SD cards?08:17
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joshua__it says that I have to have python 2.4 and tango-icon-theme08:17
jeanmasscan you listen when you click "EN DIRECT"?08:18
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SillyZencryption of a radio broadcast is prohibited by the FCC, espically if the intended recipient is the general public08:18
intelikeySillyZ as long as that is the official *ubuntu stance on that topic   you should at the very least mention it to those you sujest automatix too      thank you.08:19
SillyZOk it is the official stance of Ubuntu that Automatix is a bad thing, it is in my honest and professional opinion... it flat works.08:19
SillyZthere happy now?08:20
joshua__so who am i going to get to smack?08:20
intelikeysure if you mention that to those you sujest it to in here that's fine.08:20
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joshua__<------------------starts heading toward SillyZ08:20
SillyZgood lord talk about politics08:20
jeanmassthanx for the help08:20
jeanmasshave to go08:20
jeanmasscheers08:20
Daskreechjeanmass: yes08:21
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SillyZok heres one guys, drives in the laptop are more than likely sata, but their being recognized as scsi , thus cant hdparm em or anything.... suggestions?08:21
SillyZie : /dev/sda  , /dev/scd0 (dvd-r/w)08:22
joshua__bah..... this frustrating08:22
SillyZide-scsi append in grub maybe?08:22
intelikeyfeisty implimented the use of scsi emulation for all disk drives.   that can be disabled    you will have to do some configuring and rebuild the initramfs.img08:22
intelikeyi think the latest updates may have disabled that    you can check   i don't run feisty so i can't say for sure.08:23
Daskreechjoshua__: yeah. vlc is probably the easy bet08:23
SillyZso any decent scsi tools like hdparm then?08:23
joshua__Daskreech: ok i'll try that next08:24
intelikeyfor emulated scsi    im reluctant to say08:24
intelikeySillyZ check the menu.lst  and make sure that it's not as simple as the ide-scsi switch08:25
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joshua__consider automatix gone08:25
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intelikeyif i remember correctly tho it is in the initramfs that it's enabled08:26
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SillyZnope its not there08:27
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joshua__well after all that, vlc works08:29
Daskreechjoshua__: yeah as i said easy way out08:29
intelikeydidn't i say that half an hour ago08:29
Daskreechgive up flexibility for workinicity08:29
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intelikeyok i'm gone.08:29
joshua__well it works, but i don't like not having flexibilityy08:29
DaskreechBut at least you can have  the DVDs work while you try sort out gettign kaffiene to work08:30
joshua__yea, did i piss intelikey off or something?08:30
Daskreechjoshua__: it's like 4:00 am08:31
joshua__Dask: 01:31 CST lol..08:32
joshua__i thought i made him angry by not taking his advice08:32
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DaskreechWell it works now and you can bang on the other methods until they work as well08:33
DaskreechMan I wish US laws weren't so stupid08:33
joshua__why do you say that?08:33
Daskreechcause shipping the DVD codec would have Ubuntu labelled as a software terrorist and hauled into court08:35
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joshua__ahh...that makes sense08:35
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joshua__boo on them....well i'll keep trying and figure something out, my wife wanted to watch a movie on here, oh the things a man does in the name of marriage08:36
joshua__hee hee08:36
DaskreechYeah I figured there was woman behind there08:37
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SillyZok heres one, when using thunderbird, I click on a .torrent, tell it to open in azureus..... azureus opens but does not open the .torrent file08:37
joshua__lol, yea, she went to sleep and i'm stubborn08:37
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joshua__so i had to fix the problem, now that it's fixed i can go to sleep :->08:38
joshua__thanks so much for your help Daskreech08:38
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Daskreechjoshua__: Ok Sure. I'll try and give you more reasons to get hugs and kisses in the future08:38
Daskreechapt-get install roses :)08:38
joshua__LOL08:38
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joshua__have a good rest of the morning08:40
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WillJitsuDaskreech: u still around?08:48
DaskreechWillJitsu: perhaps08:49
WillJitsuDaskreech: k I've been messing with a bunch of stuff, and the last thing I did was boot from the dvd iso.  it boots up to the menu, but no matter what option I choose, it blanks the screen, and a cursor blinks in the top left hand corner and nothing happens from there08:49
DaskreechDoes the DVD spin up?08:50
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WillJitsuDaskreech: not after I choose an option08:52
WillJitsuDaskreech: at least not that I can tell08:52
DaskreechHmmmmm08:52
ahmedxwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?08:53
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Daskreechkinda strange. but it boots fine?08:54
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ahmedxwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?08:54
WillJitsuDaskreech: yeah boots to the menu with no problem and I can choose any selection by using the arrow keys08:54
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WillJitsuDaskreech: but none of them do anything after I hit enter, just the screen blank and blinking cursor08:55
WillJitsuDaskreech: I can hit F6 to get a prompt, but I wouldn't know what to type in there08:55
DaskreechWillJitsu: press F6 and move up and down across the menu it shoudl change whats in the f6 terminal08:56
ahmedxwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?08:56
WillJitsuDaskreech: yeah it does08:57
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DaskreechWillJitsu: hmm. then you shouldn't have to put in anything08:58
DaskreechWillJitsu: same one you were using to install?08:58
WillJitsuDaskreech: well right now I'm using my external dvd-rom instead of my internal cd-rom b/c I'm using the dvd image instead of the cd image I was earlier08:59
WillJitsuworks fine from the cd-rom, but it's stopping with the dvd-rom08:59
WillJitsubut obviously the cd-rom install won't work.  I think it was a possible bad CD08:59
WillJitsuthat's why I decided to try the DVD08:59
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DaskreechWillJitsu: always stops at 51?09:00
WillJitsuDaskreech: yep09:01
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Daskreechdid you do  a cd test?09:01
WillJitsuDaskreech: but like I said I think it's just a bad CD.  unfortunately I don't have any other blank CDs here at the house to burn another one and test it09:01
WillJitsuDaskreech: yeah it failed09:01
WillJitsuDaskreech: it's a rewritable CD so I tried several burns with different burners. they all were bad09:01
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Daskreech:-(09:03
mike_ rewritable CD's can not be a good choice09:04
DaskreechWell can you mount your hard drive?09:04
WillJitsuDaskreech: I'm not sure.  where would I mount it from?09:04
Daskreechmake a directory09:04
Darkkishipodslave doesn't work09:05
Daskreechand type sudo mount /dev/sda1 dirname09:05
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Daskreech!mount09:05
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter09:05
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Roeyhi09:05
Daskreech!ntfs09:05
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:05
Roeyhow do I set Kubuntu /not/ to go into graphical user mode at startup?09:05
Roey(Feisty Fawn)09:06
Darkkish!ntfs-3g09:06
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions09:06
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Darkkishis it safe?09:06
Roeyfamous last words09:07
Roeyheheehh09:07
Darkkishlol\09:07
RoeyDarkkish:  more so than the previous ones certainly09:07
DaskreechRoey: don't run KDM09:07
Roeycaptive09:07
Darkkishmkay well09:07
Darkkishnight guys09:08
RoeyDaskreech:  ok, how do I prevent it from doing that09:08
DaskreechRoey: or even easier get an alternate Cd and just install a server :)09:08
RoeyDaskreech:  see, I edit the runlevel on Debian.09:08
Darkkishtalk to you on monday i guess, stupid family reunion when i should be doing finals homework09:08
RoeyDaskreech:  What's the equivalent in UpStart to /etc/inittab ??09:08
RoeyDaskreech:  I want to start at runlevel 3, not 2.09:08
Daskreech!upstart09:09
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/09:09
Roeyyes,09:11
RoeyI've read it.09:11
Roeyit didn't tell me anything about starting up without X09:11
Roeyand no one in here tells me, either!  What, is everyone simply complacent here?09:11
Roeylike.. I can't wait for it to start X up09:11
RoeyI need access to the command prompt right away09:12
DaskreechRoey: Ah09:12
DaskreechRoey: did it tell you about starting services?09:12
Roeywhat about starting KDM in the background, on a separate virtual terminal?09:12
RoeyDaskreech:  no09:12
Roeyno it did not.09:12
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HyperCity!pastebin09:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:14
DaskreechRoey: Well a quick nasty fix is to rename your /etc/init.d/kdm file :)09:16
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Jack3how come aptitude says i can upgrade to linux head 2.6.20-16-lowlatency and generic when my "uname -a" shows linux-2.6.20-16 alreaedy?09:25
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Meglojoin #debian09:25
Jack3uhh09:26
Meglowpp[s09:26
Meglowoops09:26
Jack3forgot a / heh09:26
Megloya lol09:26
scalesheloo can somebody help me i need a tutorial how to install nvidia drivers without synaptic09:26
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KartibokHi all....anyone know how I can get the auto update icon that informs you of the available updates that sits on the taskbar? Cheers09:27
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giasohi there09:27
dguptascales:if synaptic does the job .. y do you want to install without it?09:28
Daskreech!nvidia | scales09:28
ubotuscales: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:28
DBOJack3, its a minor upgrade09:28
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Jack3is it worth it?09:28
DBOJack3, do you own a dell or have you been having issues with PCI devices or bluetooth?09:29
Jack3no09:29
DBOthen it has little bearing on you09:29
Jack3alright09:30
DBOits worth an install, but dont scare yourself into the reboot till you need it09:30
Jack3hah yeh09:30
Jack3i just like upgrading for tidyness09:30
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scalesdgupta: i dont have a xdsl conection09:33
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scalesdgupta: i need a tutorial how to run a .run package of nvidia-glx09:37
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arunkaleif someone has kubuntu installed and wants to try ubuntu, what are the steps involved?09:42
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dogatemycomputer!ubuntu09:44
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com09:44
dogatemycomputer!gnome09:45
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.09:45
arunkaleumm how does one run kubuntu and ubuntu at the same time and switch between them?09:45
dogatemycomputerarunkale: "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop"09:46
arunkaledogatemycomputer: thanks :) and how does one switch between the two?09:47
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dogatemycomputerarunkale: arunkale http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome09:47
dogatemycomputerarunkale:  you'll be prompted to choose before you login..09:47
arunkaleeverytime? thanks :)09:48
arunkalethts wht i wanted to know09:48
dogatemycomputerarunkale: you can set it to default to one or the other.. or you can choose to use one or the other a single time..09:48
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arunkaleand will it affects the files or settings09:48
dogatemycomputerarunkale: yeah.. its a pretty standard process.. install, logoff, choose the distro you want (there should be a pulldown on the login screen to choose various options) then log back in ..09:48
arunkalealright, thanks a lot man09:49
arunkalei meant, will it adversely affect the files or settings09:49
arunkaleas in the xorg.conf or files in the home directory09:49
arunkalewill they be safe09:49
dogatemycomputerarunkale: well.. obviously it will create an additional file structure for the GNome desktop (I think its ~/.gdm or similar).. but the apps themselves?  no.. they store their configuration information in  your home director indepdenent of the windows manager..09:49
arunkaleok thanks09:50
dogatemycomputerarunkale: the windows manager is completely independent of the X server..09:50
dogatemycomputerarunkale: basically.. the way I understand it.. X creates the enviorment for which windows managers can draw on.. so.. it doesn't matter which manager is doing the drawing as long as its X compatible..09:50
arunkalealright.. thanks a lot man09:51
dogatemycomputerarunkale: (X = the paper and kde/gdm = the paint)09:51
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dogatemycomputerarunkale: no problem.. have a good night!09:51
vontuxrooly: pm's blocked....09:52
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vontuxrooly: join #vontux and I'll tell you in there09:52
vontuxrooly: I'm not registered for pm09:52
vontuxrooly: join #vontux and I'll tell you in there09:53
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vontuxrooly: did you get my pm? I doubt it, I got a message saying I'm not registered for pm09:54
adydasHey guys, whats the console command to reconfig your desktop, xwindows09:54
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vontux!xorg.conf | adydas09:54
ubotuadydas: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:54
vontuxrooly....09:54
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sivaji!vontus09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vontus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
sivaji!vontux09:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vontux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:59
vontuxsivaji: hello sir10:00
vontuxsivaji: or madam10:00
sivajisir10:00
vontuxsivaji: I am a human male from the planet earth who likes tux and german surnames apparently10:01
sivajivontux are u operator10:01
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vontuxsivaji: nope, I just mixed rooly up w/ a kubuntu joined person, he is in #ubuntu so I was trying to talk w/ the wrong person10:02
vontuxsivaji: are you an operator?10:04
sivajinope10:04
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chris_scummette!debug firefox10:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about debug firefox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
chris_scummettearf10:10
sivajihow to hide a file10:10
llutzsivaji: add a leading "." to the filename10:11
tuxdIs there a End Program function for Linux?  I'm new.  In Windows you use "Windows Task Manager" to end a faulty program.  Anything like that for Kubuntu?10:11
llutztuxd: kill10:11
sivajillutz no file is being updated by ktorrent can i do that10:11
Daskreechtuxd: GUI program?10:12
llutzsivaji: then you can't hide it10:12
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tuxdIf there is a GUI program, then yes.  If not, then what code do you write in Terminal?  Again, I'm pretty new10:12
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Daskreechtuxd: press alt+ctrl+Esc10:13
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tuxdThanks!10:15
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llutz!grub10:21
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:21
rjianhello how can i unmount my Drives?10:23
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rjianit says refuse..10:24
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SilentDishello :)10:24
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SilentDisI'd like to have KDE perform a mount command upon session login, and an unmount on logout.  how would I do this?  (Kubuntu 7.04)10:25
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dogatemycomputerSilentDis: you can create a file called ~/.bash_login that will run at login.. and another file called ~/.bash_logout or ~/.bash_logoff..  (I can't remember which) that will execute at logoff10:26
dogatemycomputerSilentDis: let me check.. brb10:26
Daskreech!autostart | SilentDis10:26
ubotuSilentDis: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.10:26
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SilentDisdogatemycomputer: will that perform on login to kde or sometime during startup?  the drive isn't available till after it's driver is loaded is the problem (ximeta netdrive)10:27
dogatemycomputerSilentDis: that happens the moment you enter your password..10:27
SilentDisDaskreech: i tried doing that, created a file with the mount command in ~/.kde/Autostart, and marked it executable.  worked fine from the prompt, problem is it would simply open in kate upon startup10:28
dogatemycomputerSilentDis: well.. not exactly THE MOMENT.. but after the password and before your desktop loads..10:28
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SilentDisdogatemycomputer: that works just fine then10:28
dogatemycomputerSilentDis: I use it to launch a few apps, mount some drives, etc..10:28
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dogatemycomputer!bash10:28
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:28
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dogatemycomputerSilentDis: glad I could help..  have a good night!10:29
ahmed_xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?10:29
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zipperhow do i check which version of kubuntu i'm running?10:30
zipper(to see if my upgrade went well10:30
zipper!help10:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:30
SilentDisaargh, forgot to ask if I need to set ~/.bash_login as exe or not10:30
ahmed_xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?10:30
llutzzipper: lsb_release -id10:30
SilentDis!version | zipper10:30
ubotuzipper: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell10:30
lennyHi! do you know ksirk(risk clone) ? i couldn't install10:31
ahmed_, guys did any one try it xwinwrap,??10:31
zipperthx10:31
lennyany help?10:31
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SilentDislenny: did you try to install from source, from repos, from a downloaded .deb?  what error did you get?  use !pastebin if it's big...10:34
ardchoille!ksirk10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ksirk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
SilentDis!info krisk10:34
ubotuPackage krisk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:34
jussi01!info ksirk10:34
ubotuPackage ksirk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:34
rjian!info unmount10:34
SilentDisty jussi01lol10:34
ubotuPackage unmount does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas10:35
jussi01SilentDis: :D10:35
jussi01!unmount10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
Daskreechrjian: try umount10:35
jussi01gah10:35
SilentDisrjian: you're looking for the command 'umount' probably.  to unmount a mounted filesystem10:35
rjianim trying to open a the flash drive but i cant open it..10:35
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rjianit say refuse uid10:36
SilentDisrjian: 7.04 should automagically mount it for you, unless it's a weird or broken filesystem10:36
lennyI downloaded ksirk-1.8.90.tgz10:36
djdarkman_can someone tell me why is it that if I play music in amarok, I don`t hear the sound that a movie player makes?10:36
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SilentDislenny: ok, you're installing from source.  could you !pastebin the result of the make?10:37
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rjianhmm i wander y can't browse my drive it detects alrea right but i cant see the content10:37
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SilentDisrjian: did you mount it somewhere?  try a 'sudo mount' by itself and see what's mounted where10:38
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llutzno need for sudo10:38
lennyhave no idea of what to do10:39
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lenny./configure?10:39
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SilentDislenny: there should be a README or similar file in there to tell you what to do , after you extract the tgz file10:39
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rjianSilentDis: heres the result http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24823/10:40
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SilentDisrjian: it doesn't appear that your usb drive is mounted.  they usually show up as something like /dev/sda1 or the like.10:41
rjianyeah10:41
lennyyes i read it10:41
mrcreativitycan i administer an ubuntu installation on the hard drive after booting from the live cd?10:41
rjianSilentDis: when i mount the device it says hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100010:42
lennybut ./configure tells me file doesn't exist10:42
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SilentDisrjian: it SHOULD be on sda1... if it is... try this whole long command:  sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb -o user10:42
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SilentDislenny: *nix systems are CaSe SeNsItIvE.  make sure it's not all uppercase, or with a capitol letter at the beginning :)10:43
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buzuse pmount to mount usb drives10:44
buzpmount sda1 for example10:44
buzit would then live in /media/sda110:44
SilentDisbuz: more info on that please, i've not messed with pmount myself10:44
SilentDis!pmount10:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:44
buzSilentDis: very simply really10:44
SilentDis!info pmount10:44
llutzpmount (1)           - mount arbitrary hotpluggable devices as normal user10:44
ubotupmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (feisty), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB10:44
buzpmount lastpartofdriveletter10:44
buzDON'T use sudo10:45
SilentDisahhh, nice.  *sticks that info bit into memory banks* :)10:45
buzwill then go to /media/lastpartofdrivepath10:45
buzsorry should be pmount lastpartofdrivepath10:45
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buzi.e. sdb2 or so10:45
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buzeven works with luks encrypted devices10:45
buzvery neat10:45
Linux_Galorewells it official kmail sux10:46
Linux_Galoreas much as I like kde I cant make myself say kmail is any good10:46
WillJitsufinally got kubuntu installed!10:46
buzit would be good if they could fix that annoying crash10:46
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=== buz is looking at a hp notebook, anybody got any comments on those?
SilentDisLinux_Galore: what are you trying to do in kmail?  it was a bit quirky when i switched, but i found a LOT to like in it.10:47
rjianSilentDis: still canot open10:47
SilentDisrjian: did you get any errors out of pmount?10:47
Linux_Galorelooks like I will have to tell "normal users" to go with either Thunderbird or Evolution10:47
WillJitsuwhat's the best way to install the latest drivers for my nVidia 6800GT in kubuntu?10:47
buzthunderbird is a better fit for users yes10:47
Linux_GaloreSilentDis: Im trying to define how a normal user would do a text hyperlink in kmail10:47
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buzuhm automatically?10:48
SilentDisWillJitsu: build the package from the driver on nvidia's website.  i had nothing but problems myself with any other method lol10:48
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buzWillJitsu: sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo sh NVIDIApackage10:48
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buzthat should do it10:48
buzmust shutdown x first though10:49
Linux_Galorebuz: well in thundebird you just insert the link after you highlight the text component in your email you would like to become the hyperling, you cant do anything that simple in kmail10:49
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SilentDisLinux_Galore: i've not had issue with anything like that... are you creating an html mail or something?  if so... I might not be much help, i tend to shy away from html email10:49
buzah i never do that kind of links in mails10:49
Linux_Galorehyperlink*10:49
buzbesides html mail is evil10:49
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Linux_GaloreSilentDis: at enterprise level its all html10:49
ardchoilleI love kmail. Though, I don't allow pics or any type of code/markup/scripts in email messages.10:50
Linux_Galorebuz: spoken like a ludite10:50
lennythanks silentdis10:50
SilentDishtml mail just does not render well across mail clients, i've found..  let me poke a bit in kmail, see if I can figger how to do it for ya though :)10:50
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buzhtml mail causes all sorts of weird issues10:50
Linux_GaloreSilentDis: I get html email all week at work with no issues10:51
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Linux_GaloreSilentDis: a majority of my clients use a Microsoft solution for email and Thunderbird works fine both ways10:51
dazjorzI've got a 120 GB disk and I've got Windows and Linux on it10:52
dazjorzcurrently I've got 15 gb Linux, 1 gb swap, and the rest is for Windows10:52
ninHerhasefroch stinks10:52
dazjorzI'm going to reinstall, and I'd like to come up with better partition and space dividing when I do10:53
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dazjorzDoes fat32 have permissions on Linux?10:53
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zipper!nvidia10:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:53
SilentDisLinux_Galore: different uses and all.  I tend to use an IMAP server, and if i'm at home, kmail.  if i'm on the road, i'll ssh in and use mutt or the like.  *shrug*10:53
buzdazjorz: fat32 never has them10:53
dazjorzif so, I could make something like a 60 GB partition for Windows and 60 GB for Linux, including swap10:53
WillJitsuis there a default root password in kubuntu?10:53
buzWillJitsu: no, but you can set it with sudo passwd10:54
dazjorzbuz: isn't there some kind of emulation by the drivers, or so?10:54
ardchoilleWillJitsu: no10:54
ardchoille!sudo | WillJitsu10:54
buzdazjorz: not really10:54
ubotuWillJitsu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:54
dazjorzbuz: oh, okay10:54
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buzfat32 permissions are defined mostly by whom mounted the partition10:54
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ardchoillebuz: Please don't tell people how to enable the root account, it's insecure and not supported.10:54
Linux_GaloreSilentDis: Ive been rolling Linux out for a while now and I have been using kde as the base desktop but never used kmail until recently, well someone asked me "how to insert a hyperlink into an email with kmail",  Im finding there is now simple way to do this in kmail and Im finding the replies comming from the community the most bazaar and stupid ones Ive heard in ages10:54
dazjorzardchoille: are you mad? people need it for everything10:54
Linux_Galores/now/no/10:55
buzinsecure? wtf?10:55
ardchoilledazjorz: What? I have been using Ubuntu sionce warty and have never had to "enable" the root account.. it just isn't necessary.10:55
dazjorzardchoille: You're using it all the time10:55
dazjorzardchoille: Note that root is always enabled, a system with a disabled root cannot function *at all*10:56
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dazjorzardchoille: I'm logged in as root now and then10:56
buzoh i have plenty of use cases where you need real root access10:56
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dazjorzardchoille: on my server running Debian, I'm logged in as root quite always10:56
Linux_GaloreSilentDis: the kde guys told me to tell this "normal ex windows user" to type <a href= etc etc, Im thinking wtf are you on crack10:56
buzrsync'ing the whole system for one10:56
ardchoillebuz: If I wanted to break into your computer, I know you have a root account and I can sit here for months brute forcing it. But, I can't brute force a root account if it's disabled and I can't get into your user accounts because I don't know the usernames.10:56
Amarilisguys, where i can find inittab file in kubuntu? or is another file that let me to start kubuntu in level 310:56
buzi doubt you can brute force my ssh server10:57
SilentDisLinux_Galore: yeah, i'm not finding any good way to do hyperlinks in it's composer.  I'll drop it in the bug tracker for ya as a feature request though.  for now, evolution/thunderbird would be better for a user that 'needs' that functionality.10:57
dazjorzardchoille: Maybe he doesn't have any ssh server running10:57
crimsunAmarilis: runlevel 2 is the default.10:57
dazjorzor any other server to log in to10:57
buzmostly because i usually dont have it running and a hardware firewall on top of that10:57
zipperwhere can i find "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager" in kubuntu?10:57
crimsunAmarilis: on Debian-based systems (Ubuntu being one), runlevels 2-5 are identical by default.10:57
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ardchoilledazjorz: I think you're a little confused ;)10:57
zipper"System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager" is for ubuntu10:57
Amarilisoh i see10:57
dazjorzardchoille: I think not10:57
buzneither do it10:57
dazjorzardchoille: do you mean logging in physically or remotely?10:57
buzi10:57
SilentDiszipper: what are you trying to install?  if it's vid drivers...  you'll find a world of headaches going that route.  lol10:57
buzbesides, on servers i use public key auth anyway10:58
Linux_GaloreSilentDis: there has been a bug posted about it now for a few years, they refuse to fix it because "we dont like html"10:58
zipperSilentDis: the wiki recommends it =/10:58
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SilentDiszipper: I will see about updating the wiki.  are you doing vid drivers?10:58
zipperyes10:58
buztruth to be told, kde lacks a sane wysigwyg html control10:58
buzso thats why (i think)10:59
SilentDiszipper: what kind of vid card, nvidia?10:59
zipperSilentDis: but then, how do i get a console login working? ctrl+alt+1/2/3/ect gives me a console alright, but there is no login screen10:59
donhi, i'm new to kubuntu and ubuntu in general.  I'm just fed up with windows and want to switch.  I'm very confused though as to what the difference is between kubuntu and ubuntu??  The only diff i see is that all kubuntu apps start with K (which is really silly) and are otherwise in their own little universe of "K" apps.  Is there something I'm missing??  Why is KDE ?10:59
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zipperyes, nvidia10:59
zipper7900gt10:59
SilentDiszipper: it's ctrl-alt-f1, give that a try first.  you can swap back with ctrl-alt-f710:59
buzdon: its mostly a matter of taste10:59
Linux_Galoreyeah, Im getting this feeling that when it comes to HTML kde has a huge hole10:59
buzyou can try both, on the same machine, from one install10:59
dazjorzdon: Well, yeah, you're right, it's a bit silly10:59
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zipperSilentDis: thats what i meant, sorry11:00
dazjorzdon: Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux based on Debian, and it uses Gnome as a graphical environment11:00
dazjorzdon: Kubuntu is pretty much the same as Ubuntu, but it uses KDE as an environment11:00
donwhy would i want KDE over Gnome? or vice versa?  Am i missing out on something by picking one or the other?11:01
dazjorzdon: I found most users coming from Windows like Kubuntu a lot more, since it looks like Windows and it has things looking like control panels, etcetera.11:01
dazjorzdon: As buz said, it's mostly a matter of taste11:01
donKDE does look prettier, but is that all?11:01
ardchoilledon: Purely personal preference.11:01
buzdon: you wont miss anything11:01
dazjorzdon: If you start looking into a lot of communities, there are KDE and gnome flamewars going on all the time11:01
buzboth can run each others apps but they tend to look kinda weird11:01
donugh...11:01
zipperSilentDis: it seems to be cought running in rc.locals... thats why when i close down kdm, i still am not able to log in anywhere11:02
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donso its just added confusion... lovely..11:02
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buzno its choice11:02
WillJitsuSilentDis: I'm trying to install drivers for the 6800GT... and I was looking at the same wiki that said use System -> Administration ->Restricted Devices MAnager.  what method do you suggest I use?11:02
SilentDisdon: linux works a little different, as the main parts of the OS are detatched from the user interface for the most part.  a very basic view of it is Kernel > X Windows > Window Manager.  One window manager is KDE, another is Gnome (xfce fluxbox, whole host of others out there too)11:02
dazjorzdon: KDE applications (most start with 'K') run fine on Gnome11:02
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dazjorzdon: On the other hand, Gnome applications run fine on KDE too11:02
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SilentDiszipper, WillJitsu: first, install the build essential package: sudo aptitude install build-essential11:03
ardchoillekde and gnome are desktop environments, not window managers. the window manager in gnome is metacity and the window manager in kde is kwin.11:03
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dazjorzardchoille++ # correct11:03
SilentDiszipper, WillJitsu: then, download the driver from nvidia's website: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html11:03
zipperSilentDis: since when did build-essential become nessecary to be able to log in via the console? =S11:03
donso what are the pros and cons of each desktop env?  Surly there is more to it than the shiney graphics?  How tightly are the apps integrated with each other in the respective desktops?11:04
SilentDiszipper: it's not.  it's used to build the nvidia driver package once you've got it11:04
dazjorzzipper: It's not, it is essential to compile packages from source11:04
donwhy did Ubuntu pick Gnome as the default instead of KDE ??  Surely they know something I don't...11:04
WillJitsuSilentDis: ok I've got it downloaded11:04
dazjorzdon: They are integrated just as well, it doesn't matter which environment you use11:04
zipperfrom source? Arent nvidia's drivers still closed?11:04
dazjorzdon: I don't know why they did, but as we said, it's personal preference, maybe the guy / group that started Ubuntu liked Gnome more.11:05
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zipperi've got the install script from nvidia, but that doesnt help me much when i'm not able to get into console-only11:05
donok... thanks :)11:05
dazjorzdon: I suggest you start with KDE, if you come from Windows; you can always switch to Gnome, even during runtime11:05
donbizzaaarrr11:05
SilentDisdon: Gnome, in general, is 'easy to use'.  that's their design goal, and why Ubuntu picked it.  KDE has 'all settings up front' as a general goal, thus the Kubuntu project.  just a different way of doing things for different people is all.  you can actually install both at the same time, should you want to, on your machine.11:05
SilentDiszipper: what happens when you ctrl-alt-f1?11:06
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doni actually started with Gnome (Ubuntu default) and installed KDE afterwards to see what the hype was all about.... so far i like the way KDE looks, but HATE all the cute "K" prefixing11:06
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dazjorzdon: Heh, you're not the only one (personally, I don't mind)11:06
zipperSilentDis: it switches to the console (as it should). There is however, nothing there. Just a blinking "_" - definately not the usual login screen you'd expect11:06
llutzgnome is ugly and it patronizes user ;)11:06
dazjorzdon: I don't really know why it started, but I don't mind having six applications running at the same time that all start with 'K'11:06
ardchoilledon: My opinion is that gnome is made to be quick to use without much configuration options. kde is made to look better and have more flexible config with lots of config options. kde also has better "office"  integration in kontact than gnome does with evolution. But, remember, this is all merely opinion.11:07
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dazjorzdon: Konsole, Kopete, Konversation, Amarok (previously amaroK), Klipper,...11:07
SilentDisWillJitsu: after build-essential is installed, and you've got the driver pack from their webpage, use ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a console.  kill kdm (sudo killall kdm works), and run it (sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.09-pkg1.run, for example).  it should prompt you through the rest from there. :)11:07
WillJitsuSilentDis: ok I'll give that a try11:08
dazjorzWillJitsu: umm11:08
dazjorzWillJitsu: You know that ctrl-alt-F1 gets you out of graphical environment, right?11:08
dazjorzWillJitsu: do you know how to go back once it's complete?11:08
WillJitsudazjorz: nope11:08
zipperSilentDis: the only way i seem to be able to get into console is at runlevel 1 (rescue mode). But if i try running the nvidia installer from there, it complains about needing runlevel 311:08
dazjorzWillJitsu: When the process is complete, you can either reboot (which is unnecesary but at least it works), or just run 'kdm' to start KDE back up again11:09
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WillJitsudazjorz: ok great.  thanks11:09
SilentDisWillJitsu: after you're done with that, type sudo kdm start to get back into your graphical interface11:09
dazjorzoh11:09
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SilentDissorry, it's 4am, dog was bugging me... and i'm tired.  not typing very fast here lol11:09
dazjorzYeah, of course, need to run 'kdm' as root... sudo kdm11:09
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dazjorzI keep forgetting sudo, doing things as root, for a lot of things11:10
dazjorzand I keep adding sudo before apt-get, on the server where I'm always root. -_-11:10
SilentDiszipper: hmm... have you tried doing a 'sudo killall kdm' from a konsole to see what hapens?  (it SHOULD drop you to a prompt that way, unless it auto - restarts).  type sudo kdm start to get back to the gui11:10
dazjorz"<-- zipper has left this server"11:11
llutzsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop|start11:11
zipperSilentDis: the problem is, if kdm does not start up again, i have no console to type in "kdm start". Tried that already =/11:11
dazjorzzipper: you do11:11
zipperi dont.11:11
dazjorzzipper: press ctrl+alt+F1 to go to tty111:11
SilentDisdazjorz: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/simon_says *giggle*11:11
dazjorzF2 for tty2, etcetera11:12
dazjorzhaha11:12
ardchoillelol11:12
zipperdazjorz: sigh... as i explained already, thats my problem. ctrl+alt+f1 gets me to console, but there is no login screen there.11:12
dazjorzzipper: Oh, sorry, I didn't see that11:12
dazjorzzipper: what *is* there?11:12
ardchoilleSilentDis: Good one :)11:12
Panda200xWhere is the Login Script? :p11:12
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zipperdazjorz: a blinking curser. The log stops right at "Running /etc/rc.local" but that file only contains "exit 0"11:13
dazjorzzipper: and could you nopaste the output of "ps -A | grep tty"11:13
dazjorzzipper: What's at tty2 ?11:13
zippersame11:13
SilentDiszipper: ok, that's just weird.  i'm trying to think of what might be causing such a thing, and coming up rather empty.  do you have another 'puter you can ssh into the machine from?  (stupid workaround, but it'll work, lol)11:13
WillJitsuSilentDis: ok it appeared to install correctly, but I still can't change my resolution past 1024x768.  what might be limiting it?11:13
zipperdazjorz: hang on11:13
llutzzipper: init 1 = single, so it's normal11:14
zipperSilentDis: ah yeah, i guess i could do that, thanks. Would much rather have a working console though11:14
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zipperllutz: i cant install nvidia drivers from init 111:14
SilentDisWillJitsu: i've never used the gui to do res changes.  I've always done it through reconfiguring xserver-xorg (old dog, new tricks, etc).  someone else might be better able to help you with that, or I can show you the way I do it (very unnessesary stuff though)11:14
llutzzipper: no, but why are you using it then?11:15
dazjorzzipper: same? :/11:15
dazjorzzipper: that's odd11:15
dazjorzzipper: what does ps -A | grep tty give you?11:15
SilentDiszipper: lol agreed!  what kind of machine are you using?  home built or a store-bought box?11:15
ardchoilleWillJitsu: Did you try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:15
WillJitsuardchoille: no what will that do?11:15
zipperdazjorz: was trying to find a pastebin..... browser messing up atm it seems. "5897 tty7     00:00:24 Xorg"11:15
zipperSilentDis: home built11:15
ardchoilleWillJitsu: It reconfigures xorg11:15
dazjorzzipper: there's http://paster.dazjorz.com/ for one11:15
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WillJitsuardchoille: I'm sorry I'm incredibly new to this.  what is xorg?11:16
dazjorzzipper: I think the channel pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:16
ardchoilleWillJitsu: I was told it's the proper way to do it11:16
SilentDiszipper: your machine isn't even running the extra ttys!11:16
dazjorzzipper: if the only output is that tty7 Xorg,... you aren't running putty11:16
dazjorzthat's very odd.11:16
ardchoilleWillJitsu: xorg is "X", which is what your desktop/windowmanager run on top of11:16
dazjorzerrr11:16
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dazjorzs/putty/getty11:16
zipperdazjorz: it's the only output, yes11:16
WillJitsuardchoille: ok so just open up a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?11:16
dazjorzzipper: I'm puzzled as to why it wouldn't open getty on your tty's, but this explains the absense(sp?) of a console11:17
ardchoilleWillJitsu: Anyway, after you make changes to xorg, you have to restart x for them to take effect. Have you been restarting x after making res changes?11:17
dazjorz- bah, there's no spelling bot11:17
WillJitsuardchoille: I haven't made any res changes b/c the option doesn't go past 1024x76811:17
zipperPerhaps i should inform you that i just upgraded 6.06 -> feisty. Perhaps that's messed something up?11:17
WillJitsuardchoille: I want to choose 1600x120011:17
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ardchoilleWillJitsu: Yes, but I usually do it from tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1)11:17
ardchoilleWillJitsu: open a terminal and do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg     that will help you configure x, then you need to restart x with: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:18
SilentDisWillJitsu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  you'll have to go through some other x setup stuff (should be all defaults), but you can then put a tick for that res, and choose it as the default, then restart x (ctrl-alt-backspace)11:18
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WillJitsuSilentDis: ok thanks11:18
zipperdazjorz: well.... any idea on how to get it to start up the extra tty's?11:19
llutzzipper: what does "runlevel" tell you?11:19
ardchoilleWillJitsu: Be aware that restarting x will kill kde, which means your irc session will close if you're using xchat or konversation11:19
zipperllutz: 311:19
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SilentDiszipper: i'm trying to remember where those are set....  but it's late, and I worked 9 hrs today already, gimme a moment lol11:19
zipperSilentDis: :) thanks11:19
dazjorzzipper: Let me check inittab11:20
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dazjorz:o11:20
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dazjorzwhere did inittab go11:20
SilentDisi remember disabling all but tty1 and 2 for myself at one point to shave off a few k of memory use, but i can't for the life of me remember where i did that.  lol11:21
dazjorzSilentDis: I think you must've done it in inittab, since that's the file configuring the tty's and runlevels, etcetera11:21
dazjorz!inittab11:21
SilentDis!console11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
SilentDis!consoles11:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about consoles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:22
SilentDisdarn you ubotu!  *shakes fist*11:22
dazjorz"I believe /etc/event.d/ replaced /etc/inittab. Ubuntu refers to it as upstart."11:22
dazjorzis there any way to add factoids to ubotu?11:22
SilentDisdazjorz: yeah.  /msg ubotu !<factoid> is <full info>11:22
MPS> hi, anyone an idea how to put my wlan card under feisty in monitor mode so that they will stay in monitormode and doesn't switch back to managed mode?11:23
SilentDisdazjorz: it'll get reviewed and added if needed11:23
jussi01!botabuse | SilentDis11:23
ubotuSilentDis: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...11:23
jussi01:P11:23
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SilentDisjussi01: lol thanks, we're not abusing it though, we're adding relivent info lmao11:24
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zipperdazjorz: my /etc/event.d/tty2 contains this: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=60511:24
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ardchoilleAdding info to the bot is probably better done in #ubuntu-bots11:25
MPSno one an idea?11:25
donhow do i switch back and forth between kdm and gdm ?  I can switch between desktops no problem, but switching the login window manage, i don't know how.11:25
SilentDisardchoille: i always did it in PMs to ubotu directly, and usually had favorable comments from the mods about the stuff I added.  I will go to #ubuntu-bots from now on though :)11:25
ardchoilleSilentDis: Oh, in pm is good too. I was just concerned about keeping channel traffic to a minimum as newbies can get lost in the traffic if it scolls too much.11:26
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SilentDisardchoille: yep, same here.  I always did /msg ubotu blah blah blah :)11:27
dazjorzzipper: your current runlevel is 3, right?11:27
zipperdazjorz: it is11:27
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dazjorzzipper: wait, that can't be right, mine shows something else11:28
donhow do i switch back and forth between kdm and gdm ?  I can switch between desktops no problem, but switching the login window manage, i don't know how.11:28
dazjorzzipper: what happens if you run /sbin/getty 38400 tty2 # in a [ck] onsole ?11:28
zipperdazjorz: uhm, it "stalls". Newline, then nothing11:29
zipperoh wait11:29
zipperafter some time it just ends11:29
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SilentDiszipper: try switching to tty2 then, see what happens11:29
zipperdazjorz: http://paster.dazjorz.com/?p=60611:29
zipperSilentDis: nothing really.... Just a blinking curser, nothing else11:30
dazjorzzipper: # was a comment sign ;)11:30
dazjorzzipper: you didn't need to enter it11:30
zipperoh11:30
zipper:P11:30
dazjorzzipper: anyway, what happens if you press ctrl+alt+f2 now?11:30
dazjorz...then ctrl+alt+f7 to go back :/11:30
zippersame deal. Still a blinking curser11:30
dazjorzoh11:30
zippergoes for all the tty's btw, except tty1 which shows some info from when i started up xorg11:31
dazjorzps -A | grep tty11:31
zipperstill only the tty711:31
dazjorzdang11:31
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SilentDisas if I didn't smoke enough already... still searching for ya zipper.  lol11:32
dazjorzzipper: are you sure the last line of tty2 is "/sbin/getty 38400 tty2exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty2" ?11:32
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zipperdazjorz: i'm positive11:32
dazjorzit looks double11:32
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zipperlet me double-check11:32
zipperhang on11:32
dazjorzzipper: could you change it into "exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty2", so remove the first /sbin/getty to tty211:33
zipperdazjorz: it is as i pasted it.11:33
dazjorzzipper: if this line is formatted the same way in the other ttyX, change it there, too11:33
dazjorzthen reboot11:33
dazjorzor, wait11:33
dazjorzonce you changed all these lines, run 'init 2'11:33
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zipperisnt it "telinit 2" ?11:34
snikkeri've run debsum and i've a lot of "no md5sums for ..." (in files as binutils, at, bzip2, and so on). why this?11:34
dazjorzzipper: I don't know what the difference is, but yeah, use telinit11:34
zipperdazjorz: omg! it works :)11:34
dazjorzgreat :)11:35
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zipperhmm... perhaps i should look if this bug has been already filed. Where to do that?11:35
zipperthanks for the help btw11:35
SilentDiszipper: glad it's working at least... found a wiki page with more info, too: http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Console_login_on_Ubuntu11:36
cox377does anyone know a command to restart all usb devices?11:37
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SilentDisg'night everyone, i need sleep lol11:41
Kartiboktest11:41
ardchoillepassed11:41
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Kartibokardchoille: ta!11:41
ardchoille:)11:42
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jzilla_im drunk11:45
jzilla_im hgoing back to the casono11:45
jzilla_qwho's whith me11:45
jzilla_LETS GO11:45
dazjorzheh11:45
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dazjorz!pinf11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pinf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
dazjorz!ping11:54
ubotupong11:54
dazjorz*wow*11:54
dazjorz!moo11:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:54
dazjorz-___-11:55
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zipperanyone know where security.ubuntu.com is located? Getting very slow speeds on it11:58
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dazjorzzipper: security.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.13812:02
dazjorz138.81.211.82.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer auckland.ubuntu.com.12:02
dazjorzauckland.ubuntu.com :/12:02
krautmoin12:03
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KartibokCould someone give me an idea how I could uninstall VMPlayer using the command line?12:27
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ardchoillesudo apt-get remove vmware-player    ?12:28
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DJServersyo12:28
Kartibokardchoille: Looks like thats it.....cheers12:29
ardchoille:)12:29
ardchoilleKartibok: You can see if a package is installed with: apt-cache policy packagename12:30
ardchoilleOr search the repos for a package: apt-cache search packagename12:30
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MrDigimonis there any free windows game emulators to linux?12:32
DJServerscan ya still see mee?12:32
Kartibokardchoille: I initially downloaded the package from VMWare, but when I had networking issues I wanted to remove it, but it was not in the add/remove program options12:33
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ardchoilleDJServers: yes12:34
zipperWhen trying to run the NVIDIA installer script, i get an error about it not being able to find the kernel source. What package do i need? Already got build-essentials12:34
ardchoillezipper: Why are you using a script when the drivers are in the repos?12:34
zipperardchoille: thought the drivers in the repos were old?12:35
zipperor well12:35
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zipperat least not as new as the binary ones from the nvidia site12:35
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ardchoillezipper: I'm using the nvidia drivers fro the repos and they work quite well. I don't know what's on the nvidia site.12:36
zipperokay12:36
zipperdo i need to change my xorg.conf manually when using those from the repos?12:36
ardchoille!nvidia12:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:36
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ardchoilleThat's what I followed. I installed one package, ran one command, restarted x and voila :)12:37
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zippernice, the ones from the repos works fine it seems12:39
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zipper!help12:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:40
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KubuntuI can't copile the wireless network drivers!12:40
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KubuntuHow should I copile the beklin drivers?12:41
KubuntuIs it enogh to type make?12:41
ardchoilleKubuntu: Don't the drivers come with a README or INSTALL files? Or some kind of docs?12:42
Kubuntuyes12:43
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KubuntuIt says make: *** No rule to make target `config'.  Stop.12:44
ardchoilleIsn't there some documentation on installing?12:44
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Kubuntuyes, but when I follow them I get errors12:46
fildocan anyone help me witha pcmcia dvb-t card ?12:47
KubuntuNo12:47
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DJServers!format12:48
DJServers!format12:48
DJServers...12:48
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter12:48
zipperIs there any way to increase write/read speeds of your harddrives?12:48
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Kubuntuno12:50
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chuenMorning all. My system's just done its routine 'Hda1 mounted 30 times' check, and the error * Activating swap [fail]  appeared.12:51
chuenThis was followed by 'unable to find swap-space' signature.12:51
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chuenWhat should I do?12:52
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zipperany way to increase HDD transfer speed?12:55
zipper!help12:55
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:55
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sivajizipper enable dma12:55
seusalut12:56
zippersivaji: any hints on how to do that?12:56
sivaji!dma12:56
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA12:56
sivajizipper ok12:56
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KubuntuHow can I install ndiswrapper??12:57
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sivajichuen echo "/swapfilelocation     none swap 0 0 " >> /etc/fstab12:58
sivajichuen tell me what output u get for this command12:59
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KubuntuHow do I install ndiswrapper?12:59
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chuensivaj: permission denied (tried sudo too)01:00
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sivajiKubuntu try #ubuntu01:00
Kubuntuwhy?01:00
Greenerymy kubuntu sometimes wont shutdown properly...any idea what's wrong?01:00
chuensivaji: permission denied01:00
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KubuntuMine either01:00
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mrmondayanyone know what the password for the kubuntu live CD is?01:00
zipperHmm, after installing kubuntu, i cant boot my legit windows XP cd. What gives? Grub starts before i get the chance to boot the cd01:00
Kubuntunothing?01:00
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Kubuntutried bios settings?01:01
mrmondayKubuntu, tried it01:01
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sivajichuen "swapon -s" try this01:01
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chuensivaji: That was using sudo too.01:01
zipperKubuntu: dont think its bios settings, since i were able to boot it before i installed kubuntu01:02
chuensivaji: OK01:02
Kubuntuzipper ok01:02
chuensivaji: OK, it accepted that comand.01:02
sivajichuen what u get01:02
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chuensivaji: No output from command - cust back to prompt.01:03
sivajichuen paste u r output01:03
chuensivaji: Oh, shoudl I try the previosu command again.01:03
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sivajino that is wrong swapon -s will show u r swap partition information01:04
Greeneryis it normal for kubuntu not shutting down properly at times?01:04
chuensivaji: No output at all from that.01:05
KubuntuYes, mine doesn't!01:05
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Greeneryso is it safe to turn it off from the power output? or have to hit the reset button and redo the shutdown?01:06
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chuensivaji: any idea what to try next?01:06
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sivajichuen sudo  fdisk -l will show all partition check whether u have swap01:06
KubuntuYes, it is totally safe01:06
Kubuntumight break your screencard though01:07
Greeneryso it is a known problem for kubuntu?01:07
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chuensivaji: OIK, one sec.01:07
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Kubuntugreenery Don't know, but it is a problem for me!01:08
chuensivaji: Disk /dev/sda: 2047 MB, 2047868416 bytes01:08
chuen255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 248 cylinders01:08
chuenUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes01:08
chuen   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System01:08
chuen/dev/sda1               1          10       80293+   0  Empty01:08
chuen/dev/sda2              11         248     1911732    b  W95 FAT3201:08
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sivajichuen u r swap partition is not working is it?01:09
chuensivaji: No, it's not!01:09
chuensivaji: But it was until today AFAIK.01:09
chuensivaji: Not sure why the W95 FAT32 is there either.01:10
sivajichuen u have or had  windows01:10
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chuensivaji: Yes, I did - thought I got rid af all traces :)01:11
sivajichuen i think u didnt deallocate that partition01:12
chuensivaji: Not sure why swap would suddenly 'disappear'.01:12
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chuensivaji: I have had swap until now - is it automatic when I insytall ed Kubuntu?01:12
crazy_busI'm trying to encode a speex in soundkonverter.  However the file decodes to 99% and then stops.  It doesn't encode nor come up with any errors.  The program says I have the right packages installed to perform this operation.  What should I do?01:12
chuensivaji: Oh, ISWYM - deallocate Win partition.01:13
sivajichuen do u have ram more that 1gb it means u dont need swap partition01:14
zipperhow do i set kubuntu to use firefox as default instead of konquerer?01:14
chuensivaji: No, I have 512mb01:14
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sivajichuen "fdisk -l " says u dont have swap partition01:14
sivajichuen u want to create a swap partition now01:15
chuensavaji: OK, maybe I was hallucinating! Can I create on - is it easy (and safe) to do so?01:15
chuensivaji: I think I should, yes.01:15
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sivajitry ksyguard whether u r swap space is being used or not01:16
sivajichuen01:16
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chuensivaji: OK, I have that - what should I check for?01:17
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sivajican see memory usage at the bottom01:18
chuensivaji: No swap space available ...01:18
mrmondayso no one know the password/username?01:19
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ardchoillemrmonday: There isn't one, when you use sudo it executes the command without need of a password.01:22
ardchoilleAt least it always has for me.01:22
mrmondaythe thing is, it asks for a password!01:23
chuensivaji: So does that mean there is no swapspace available that can be created?01:23
chuensivaji: Not enough physical disk space?01:23
ardchoillemrmonday: I've never seen the livecd do that.01:23
mrmondayI can't even get to a point where I can get to a CLI01:23
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KartiWhen I look at my iwconfig it shows my encryption key in clear text - is this right?01:30
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llutzKarti: if you call it as root, yes01:31
crazy_busI'm trying to use soundKonverter to convert a ogg to a spx file.  However the program was for some reason trying to encode with gogo which is a mp3 encoder.  It would freeze after trying to do this.  So I installed gogo and now it cant read the files.  What should I do?01:31
Kartillutz: just realised........many thanks......I win the numpty award as it was a root session!01:32
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gemidjythis is urgent: when I try to print I get this error: http://pastie.caboo.se/6908701:38
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Kartigemidjy: have you the correct drivers installed?01:39
zipperI have a logitech MX518 mouse, but it doesnt seem like the thumb-buttons work. How to fix?01:39
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gemidjyKarti: yes I have01:40
flohy i'm new to kubuntu (always used ubuntu) is there any restricted drivers manager in kubuntu? i don't seem to findit01:40
Kartiand have you printed from it before?01:40
floneed them for my nvidia card01:40
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gemidjyKarti: yes I have01:41
leszekhelo01:41
gemidjyKarti: any way to get Kubuntu's default /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file, it might be the problem ?01:41
Kartiflo: Visit this site.....did it all for me http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html01:41
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Kartigemidjy: I have only worked on the networked printers but thought I might be able to help if it was a PLC driver01:42
gemidjyKarti: if u can get me the default cupsd.conf file It will be fine01:43
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Kartigemidjy: is this any good? http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl5_cupsd.conf.htm01:49
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oslohi i managed to use back with new kopete versions my pwc webcam. for this i use svn & this patch: http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=19393&action=view01:56
llp78ive upgraded/installed glade 3 but i can find the build option to build the apps - like in glade 2 - can anyone help01:56
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Black_Monkeyhi, I've just restarted X, and kicker's gone - typing "kicker" on the command line doesn't bring it up - does anyone know how I can start it?01:57
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oslokopete 0.12.5 or 0.12.6 with this patch seems now ok for myPhilips Toucam 720k webcam01:57
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llp78is there no way to build using glade3 - seems a bit strange that it wont let you build, thats the most important function of the app02:01
ardchoillellp78: glade is simply a GUI designer. You can, however, use the glade xml file in a python, C++, perl, etc app02:02
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ardchoilleI don't think glade was intended to write full apps02:04
llp78ardchoille been using glade v2 to build a project - under file there is a build - which creates the src - but this option is gone in version 3 - or im missing something02:04
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ardchoillellp78: Ah, ok, I misunderstood you.02:04
ardchoilleSorry about that.02:04
llp78ardchoille: check there site under apps - glade can build some smooth apps02:05
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llp78i have a dirty work around - which is design in 3 - save close - open 2, open project build src02:05
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sercikHI!02:09
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thomaxhi y'all02:17
thomaxanyone got an idea what tools to use to backup encrypted dvd's?02:17
sercikdvdrip02:18
serciki think should work also with encripted02:19
thomaxdoesn't seem to do the trick :(02:19
sercikhave you already tried^02:19
sercik^02:19
thomaxI'll give you error 1 sec02:19
thomaxjup02:19
serciki know that latest dvd are hard to decrypt02:19
thomaxgonna try k9copy now02:19
sercikprobably only clonedvd can02:19
SSJ_GZthomax: Have you god libdecss installed?02:19
SSJ_GZ*got02:19
sercikahah02:19
sercikgod libdecss!02:20
SSJ_GZHehe02:20
SSJ_GZAll worship libdecss!02:20
serciki tought was a divene library02:20
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thomaxSSJ_GZ: now that you say it02:20
thomaxSSJ_GZ: I thought I had, but I cant seem to find it in my repos :(02:21
thomax!libdecss02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libdecss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
SSJ_GZthomax: Installing that would be a good start, then - I don't know of any rippers that bundle it :)02:21
thomaxSSJ_GZ: any idea where i can find deb packages02:22
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kbloghow do i get informations about my wlan-card? lspci?02:22
sercikof what?02:22
sercikifwconfig02:22
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sercikor iwconfig02:22
serciki don't remember02:22
SSJ_GZthomax: It can be tricky to find due to legal issues :/02:22
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SSJ_GZthomax: Google, or search the ubuntuforums02:22
thomaxaight02:23
thomaxthanx for the info02:23
SSJ_GZthomax: np - good luck!02:23
sercikbut the name is not libdvdcss?02:23
sercikor libdecss is abither pacakage?02:23
sercikanother02:23
serciki need that adept doesn't try to upgrade a package how can i do?02:24
serciki have read apt-pinning but is difficult for me02:24
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steuxhi everybody, am using a live cd of ubuntu and am trying to burn a cd with k3b. the program is saying burning successful but the cd is empty and unusable02:26
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steuxcan anybody help02:26
serciktry cdrecord02:28
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[4K^Javax] anyone used the SK Insider "pay by call" signup method? /q02:30
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steuxadept is saying cdrecord installed but i can't find it02:31
Kartican you burn CDs with the live edition running from memory? I would have thought you couldn't as it would require access to the HD for data transfer02:33
sercikit is possible to brun from live cd02:34
serciki'm sure because my friend have done it02:34
sercikand is not a linux guru02:34
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steuxi think i can too but maybe i m not using the right burner02:35
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steuxanyway what is the command line to launch cdrecord please02:36
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sercikcdrecord02:37
sercikread man cdrecord02:37
Karticdrecord02:37
ardchoilleapt-cache policy cdrecord02:37
rraajjHello! How do I set the default CPU policy on startup? I want it to use performance if it's on AC, and powersave if it's on battery.02:37
sercikbut you need before to use mkisofs02:37
zipperI have an Intel HDA onboard soundcard and a Soundblaster Audigy 4 soundcard. The Intel HDA is set as default, but i want to use my audigy card instead... How to do this?02:37
sercikcpu police is under /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu002:38
sercikzipper HI!02:38
sercikbut you can't disable from bios?02:38
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nagyvhello! could someone help me please? my laptop overheats(?) if powermanager is set to dynamic (or performance). Could this be solved with a compiled kernel? Or any other way?02:40
rraajjsercik: Where exactly here? It looks like it contains the some scaling constants...02:40
sercika minute02:40
zippersercik: hey02:40
steuxthanx sercik and karti02:41
sercikzipper: hi my frien!02:42
sercikzipper: hi my friend!02:42
sercikrraajj: the possibility are ondemand performance02:42
zipper=)02:42
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sercikondemand will automatically scale when needen02:42
sercikor userspace that give the possibility to manual change fid/vid02:43
sercikbut i haven't tried it02:43
sercikrraajj: do you use kubuntu?02:43
sercikyou can install kpowersave02:43
rraajjsercik: Yes.02:43
sercikwhat cpu do you have?02:43
rraajjsercik: I have both kpowersave and the default power manager applet.02:43
sercikso what is the problem?02:44
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sercikit doesn't recognize scaling cpu?02:44
rraajjIt loads dynamic by default, but I want to use it's full performance when it's on AC.02:44
sercikah ok02:44
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rraajjBut it seems to (still) use dynamic even when it's on AC.02:44
serciki understand02:45
serciki think that with powersaved you can't do that02:45
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sercikthere are severla cpufreq client02:45
sercikand someone have a configuration much completed02:45
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sercikdo you have athlon or pentium?02:46
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rraajjsercik: You know what, I have managed to solve this problem using kpowersave when I was still using simplymepis. So frustrating that I completely forgot how I did it! :))02:46
rraajjsercik: It's a Turion.02:46
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sercikyou can try powernowd that substitute powersaved02:47
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thomaxSSJ_GZ: libdvdcss2 does the trick ;-)02:49
sercikrraajj: http://pastebin.ca/55273702:49
SSJ_GZthomax: Excellent :)02:49
sercikthis is a piece of man page of powernowd02:49
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rraajjHmm...02:50
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thomaxrraajj & sercik I use kpowersave, and it supprots CPU scaling frequency02:51
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sercikthomax: we know this!02:51
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thomaxsercik: okay ;)02:52
sercikbut rraajj would that on ac connected his pc go always at maximum02:52
sercikrraajj: but you can't change manully the policy ?02:52
thomaxI can02:52
sercikor you could write a script02:52
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rraajjsercik: I can change it manually.02:52
vladhi there02:53
nosrednaekimsercik: is this something to do with guidance powermanager?02:53
sercikthat read battery meter a write automatically performance in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/scaling_governor02:53
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serciknosrednaekim: rraajj would that his cpu will be always at maximun when ac connected02:54
nosrednaekimhello vlad02:54
nosrednaekimsercik: does he have a laptop?02:54
sercikand probably he would to do this automatically02:54
serciki think yes!02:54
sercika normal pc is always ac connectec or not?02:54
rraajjnosrednaekim: Yes, I do have a laptop. :)02:54
vladi use kubuntu 7.04, and i use blender from "http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/ubuntu/feisty/cinelerra/i686/".02:54
atk_Hi. I recently changed from ubuntu to kubuntu after being a die hard gnome fan for many years. I still have both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on my computer. Everything is running smoothly except my encryption: everytime I open encrypted email I get a gtk dialog asking for my passphrase. How can I change that to KDE's default?02:55
vladwhen i use it in windowed mode sometimes my pc freezing at all02:55
nosrednaekimrraajj: get kpowersave02:55
vladno mouse moving, no hdd activity..02:55
serciknosrednaekim: but you haven't understood the problem02:55
vladbut in fullscreen mode it doesn't freeze02:55
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sercikrraajj: is there some konsole program that read battery meter?02:55
serciki con't have a la laptop02:56
nosrednaekimsercik: oh..... what is it?02:56
rraajjnosrednaekim: I have kpowersave. I want it to put my CPU on "performance" scale when it's on AC, and "dynamic" when it's on battery.02:56
vladi just wanted to know how can i track any error messages.. maybe they are generated by blender?02:56
rraajjsercik: You're suggesting we write a script, aren't you? :))02:56
sercikyes02:56
sercikif is there some program that give battery status02:56
sercikor ac status02:57
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nosrednaekimrraajj: isn't there an option for that in kpowersave?02:57
sercikbut probably someone can help you better than me02:57
nosrednaekimsercik: yes you can get it from hal or from /proc/acpi/battery/BAT002:57
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nosrednaekimvlad: no clue... ask in #blender02:58
vladsorry :)02:58
rraajjnosrednaekim: I don't think so... I remember I did this by editing a configuration file.02:58
sercikwe can filtrate this output with sed02:58
sercikand then add an if condition02:58
sercikthat launch sudo /etc/init,d/powersaved stop02:59
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nosrednaekimsercik: not a problem...I already have a script that will do it...02:59
sercikwe can add this script to cron02:59
sercikevery ten minutes02:59
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nosrednaekimsercik: 10? we can make it event driven I think..03:00
sercikwas an example03:00
sercikcan you give me the output of /proc/acpi/battery/BAT003:00
nosrednaekimsercik: maybe we should request they add that to guidance-power0manager03:00
sercik?03:00
nosrednaekimsercik: sure03:00
sercikyes will be better03:00
serciki will tri to do a script03:01
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sercikrraajj: but you don't think that powernowd coule resolve your problem?03:02
nosrednaekimsercik: actually, you want /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state03:02
sercikoh better03:02
nosrednaekimrraajj: sercik i'm almost certain I saw that option in there03:03
rraajjnosrednaekim: Hmm, I think I got it!03:03
nosrednaekimrraajj: good.03:04
sercikgood rraajj you can post the solution03:04
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rraajjkpowersave changes the scheme (not the policy) to powersave when it's on battery.03:04
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rraajjAnd (by default) to performance when it's on AC.03:04
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serciksure i can understand what you mean03:05
rraajjAnd then you could customize both schemes to use a certain CPU policy.03:05
sercikso this is perfect03:05
nosrednaekimrraajj: heh... that works..03:05
sercikrraajj: is the best! :)03:05
rraajjThe default CPU policy in performance is dynamic. I changed it to performance and it seemed to work for me. :)03:05
sercikstrange nick rraajj03:05
nosrednaekimanything is better than writing a script.;)03:06
rraajjI have no idea if the settings will be restored once I reboot, though. (like that gtk-engines-qt font problem) :))03:06
sercikbut why do you want to use more electric power03:06
sercikdo you think to llose performance using scale?03:06
sercikloose03:06
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nosrednaekimsercik: actually yes you do lose a little doing dynamic03:07
sercikyes a little03:07
rraajjsercik: There is actually a delay when you use scaling.03:07
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sercikbut 2% of less performanca?03:07
sercikbut 2% of less performance?03:07
sercik3%03:07
nosrednaekimsercik: I can notice it in games03:07
sercikso all is good what finh good!03:08
sercikso all is good what finish good!03:08
rraajjsercik: Lol! Ahahaha.03:08
serciki don't if in english this exists03:08
serciki use it in italian03:08
nosrednaekimwhat exists?03:09
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rraajjSpeaking of the gtk-engines-qt problem, does anyone else here experience problems when configuring the default font and styles used by GTK applications?03:09
sercikall is good what finish good03:09
nosrednaekimrraajj: nope03:09
sercikin italiano is: tutto  bene quello che finisce bene03:09
rraajjI can't seem to change them. Once I exit kcontrol, they return back to their default settings.03:09
nosrednaekimrraajj: hmm..03:09
sercikfor me works!03:09
rraajjI click "Apply", of course. :)03:10
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serciki use human for gtk apps03:10
wsjuniorhello. i installed ksynaptics here but it seems it doesnt work. when i disable the touchpad it doesnt stop working as it should. does anybody know what could be happening? also, when i log into kde the scroll of the touchpad works, but after some time it stop and i only have it back if i log into kde again :(03:11
sercikbut this problem afflict feisty and not edgy (for me)03:11
rraajjsercik: I actually just want to change GTK fonts, but it always changes back to the default.03:11
sercikbut do you use feisty?03:12
rraajjsercik: Yes, I'm now on Feisty.03:12
sercikfeisty is full of problems03:12
serciki have switched to edgy03:12
nosrednaekimfiesty is working great here03:12
nosrednaekimrraajj: BTW,,, yould you like a wattmeter for fiesty?03:12
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sercikmeasures power consumption?03:13
nosrednaekimsercik: yeah03:13
nosrednaekimsercik: only works on laptops though.03:13
sercikwille be better a dollars meter03:14
sercikor euro03:14
rraajjsercik: I'm a SimplyMepis user myself since I got this laptop. I migrated my system to Feisty for the kernel updates.03:14
mike_beryl is cool03:14
rraajjnosrednaekim: Sure! :)03:14
sercikrraajj: i have also ried simplymepis03:14
Darkrift2quick q03:14
sercikbut had a bug with my 7600GT03:14
Darkrift2how do i know if ive upgraded the kernel?03:14
nosrednaekimrraajj: its a hack to guidance-powermanager03:14
Darkrift2i dont remember doing it, but when im in grub03:15
serciknow i'm on kubuntu original (edgy)03:15
Darkrift2i see 3 options03:15
serciktyoe uname -r03:15
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sercikand you will see your kernel version03:15
sercikDarkrift2: but you are upgrading now?03:15
Darkrift2no03:15
Darkrift2but i used to see 2 opttions in grub03:15
sercikyes03:15
Darkrift2kernel blah03:15
sercikis for sure03:15
Darkrift2and kernel blah-recovery03:16
sercikbecuase when you install a newer version the older is not uninstalled by default03:16
rraajjDarkrift2: Is the memtest and the system rescue entries already included in the 3 entries you're saying?03:16
nosrednaekimnow there are 4?03:16
Darkrift2no03:16
Darkrift2now there is xxxxx-1603:16
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Darkrift2xxxxxxx-16-recovery03:16
Darkrift2xxxxxxxx-1503:16
nosrednaekimrraajj: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/making-guidance-power-manager-into-a-wattmeter/03:16
Darkrift2and03:16
Darkrift2xxxxxxxx-15-recovery03:16
sercikDarkrift2: you need to manually uninstall -1503:17
rraajjDarkrift2: It might have happened on a dist-upgrade or a simple upgrade. Kernel updates are (I think) regular entities in the repos.03:17
Darkrift2i c03:17
sercikif you are sure that -16 works good for you03:17
nosrednaekimDarkrift2: then yeah.. you updated your kernel03:17
rraajjDid you dist-upgrade or upgrade recently?03:17
Darkrift2i dont even remember when it happened03:17
Darkrift2nope03:17
Darkrift2fresh install03:17
Darkrift2only thing i did was install linux-headers03:17
Darkrift2that seems to be what caused it03:17
sercikDarkrift2: don't worry this i snot a problame03:17
sercikproblem03:18
Darkrift2didnt think so03:18
rraajjOh, I see.03:18
serciki have told you that if you want you can remove old kernel version03:18
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Darkrift2yeah03:18
Darkrift2wasnt worried about that03:18
sercikgo in /boot03:18
sercikand do a ls03:18
Darkrift2was just wondering how that happens without me noticing it03:18
sercikstrange!03:19
rraajjThe linux-headers you installed was probably the newest version in the repos, and it needs the kernel version it points to. That's why it also installed the newest kernel image the headers need.03:19
sercikbut when you have install headers03:19
sercikits dependancy comes new kernel03:19
sercikrraajj: exact03:19
nosrednaekimrraajj: did you go to that web page?03:19
sercikrraajj: speaks english i speak a strange language!03:19
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mike_fiesty is the best release yet03:19
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sercikno03:20
sercikedgy is better!03:20
Darkrift2i love kubuntu03:20
serciki like kubunt! i love my girl!03:20
sercik:)03:20
Darkrift2after getting mirc running03:20
rraajjnosrednaekim: Yes, I'm currently reading it. :)03:20
Darkrift2i wont go back to vista03:20
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mike_fiesty runs beryl etc very well03:20
sercikalso edgy woth alberto milone drivers03:20
nosrednaekimrraajj: if you need any help..shout03:21
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sercikDarkrift2: the grub menu is inside /boot/grub/menu.lst03:21
sercikamd under /boot there are initrd and vmlinux files03:21
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rraajjI'm still disturbed by the fact that I can't change GTK fonts, though.03:22
sercikif you have 2 initrd and two vmlinuz03:22
sercikyou have 2 kernels installed03:22
hendaushiya all03:22
hendaussivaji2009 Wb03:22
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nosrednaekimhey hendaus03:23
sivaji2009hendaus hi03:23
rraajjnosrednaekim: Is there a way to do this in kpowersave? :))03:23
hendaushello friends03:23
nosrednaekimrraajj: I don't think kpowersave is written in Python, so unless we have a C++ guru here, no03:23
sivaji2009hendaus cant u receive my files which i send just now03:23
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rraajjnosrednaekim: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.03:23
hendaussivaji2009 where?03:23
hendaussivaji2009 on irc?03:24
nosrednaekimrraajj: you can always get my other script I link to on the bottom of the page.03:24
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sivaji2009hendaus yes now on irc03:24
hendaussivaji2009 i know but i am not receiving03:24
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sivaji2009hendaus y cant receive or u dont know how to receive03:25
hendaussivaji2009 wait03:25
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nosrednaekimrraajj: hmmmdo you have to use kpowersave for powersaved to use its configuration?03:26
hendaussivaji2009 try03:26
rraajjnosrednaekim: What do you mean?03:26
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sivaji2009[DCC]  Offering "dsc00425.jpg" to hendaus for upload...03:26
nosrednaekimrraajj: I mean, do you have to keep kpoersave open as a frintend for powersaved. you could use guidance instead.03:26
Darkrift2i wish my windows key worked more like it did in windows (shortcuts)03:27
sivaji2009hendaus can u receive now03:27
hendausi make dcc ignore off03:27
serciksomeone can help me how to configure a bridge?03:27
rraajjnosrednaekim: Hmm, I'm not sure... They use the same configuration, I presume?03:27
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hendaussivaji2009 come one yahoo?03:28
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nosrednaekimrraajj: I don't know... try closing kpowersave and see if your frequency scaling switching works.03:28
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sivaji2009hendaus ok03:28
rraajjnosrednaekim: Okay, will try.03:28
RytmenPinnenwhat's the command for restarting an app in the konsol?03:29
Darkrift2i know some apps accept appname --restart03:29
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: restarting an app?03:29
RytmenPinnenI need to restart the kicker03:29
serciksomeone can help me to configure a bridge?03:29
RytmenPinnenthe window tabs has been stuffed to the left edge so there's a ton of space but the tabs are very small03:30
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rraajjnosrednaekim: I might have closed guidance a while back during the frenzy. How do I restart it?03:30
nosrednaekimrraajj: guidance-power-manager in the konsole03:30
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nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: in the panel? well, just drag the three little dots on the far left of the taskbar to the left.03:31
RytmenPinnenah, cool thanks! why does the panel behave that way sometimes?03:32
orbisvicisanyone know how to make amarok detect both ide drives /dev/hda & /dev/hdb when clicking "play audio cd" ?03:32
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KartiDarkrift2: Try Alt+Space beats windows button hands down03:32
KartiIts called Katapult03:32
nosrednaekimRytmenPinnen: you probably accidentally moved somehting03:32
Kartionly found it after some advice from here03:32
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Darkrift2what does katapult do?03:35
Kartiyou type the command you want and it highlights the apps03:35
sercikis a stupid and unusefu app03:35
Kartido the At+space and then type in slowly Konsole03:35
orbisvicisis an awesome powerful utility03:35
nosrednaekimor you can do calculator03:36
orbisvicisespecially for laptops03:36
Kartisercik: sorry .....I like it!03:36
rraajjnosrednaekim: I think they have different configuration files.03:36
sercikorbisvicis: what do you tell?03:36
nosrednaekimor search for music03:36
Darkrift2wow03:36
orbisviciscommon sense, i sepak of03:36
orbisvicis*speak03:36
Darkrift2dont hold back the frills here guys03:36
Darkrift2lol03:36
sercikbut seach only inside kde menu03:36
nosrednaekimis very interesting and has a lot of potential03:36
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Darkrift2gn all03:37
rraajjnosrednaekim: Lol, this was echoed back by the terminal: "Warning: policy from config file not supported"03:37
nosrednaekimrraajj: crap..03:37
totix800Anybody here got "Unable to install GRUB in (hd0)" while installing your OS?03:37
nosrednaekimrraajj: hmmm03:37
sivaji2009!hda03:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:37
nosrednaekimrraajj: I think we need to add some functionality to guidance...03:37
orbisvicishm sercik that is true03:38
nosrednaekimrraajj: you know... I think I can hack it to do what you want.03:38
rraajjnosrednaekim: So probably, they use the same config file but was somehow messed up by kpowersave. Or something...03:38
rraajjnosrednaekim: Oh really? Wow! That'd be cool!03:38
sercikgoodbye03:38
Kartiwhen I choose links from in here it opens up my Quanta...how can I change its association?03:38
nosrednaekimrraajj: yep... PM me..03:39
rraajjI always liked how the power manager in Kubuntu progresses every distro upgrade.03:39
rraajjToo bad I can't use it properly (pre-Feisty days) in my laptop.03:39
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KubuntuNewbieHello03:42
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nosrednaekimrraajj: it might take a while... but i'll figure out how to do it03:42
nosrednaekimhello KubuntuNewbie03:43
serciksmbmount nust be installed suid root....... someone can help me?03:44
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gan|y|medhi03:44
serciki need to mount samba shares as user03:45
gan|y|medi have extreme performance problems with opera in kubuntu feisty (opera 9.2). tab switching is VERY slow and uses up to 50 cpu time03:47
gan|y|medany experience with that?03:47
sercikuse firefox03:47
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gan|y|medpls dont answer if it is not constructive. thank you03:49
nuusercik: sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmount03:49
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Lynouregan|y|med: report Opera company a bug on that, if it bothers you. It's not that easy to troubleshoot, it being closed source (unless they have changed that recently)03:50
sivaji2009sercik samba is just like ktorrent or different03:50
sercikhi nuu03:50
nuusercik: and if you want to be able to umount too using the same principle, sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbumount too03:50
nuuhi sercik.03:50
sercikit doesn't work03:50
nuuwhat doesnt work ?03:51
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Lynouregan|y|med: or experiment with moving your configuration for it elsewhere03:51
serciklibsmb basec programs must NOT be setuid root03:51
gan|y|medLynoure: doesn't work. same effect03:51
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Lynouregan|y|med: then it's bug report time.03:51
serciknuu: this is the error03:51
serciklibsmb basec programs must NOT be setuid root03:51
nuusercik: which program reports that ?03:51
serciksmb4k03:52
Lynouregan|y|med: Opera probably has help email address, or some such.03:52
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orbisvicisare the cdrom ide drives hda & hdb linked to another /dev/*03:52
orbisvicis?03:52
gan|y|medthat's the bad thing about closed source... pay time03:54
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sivaji2009sercik samba is just like ktorrent or different03:54
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gan|y|medoh wait. they have a free and a premium one. only saw the latter03:55
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gan|y|mednope. it is just a mail service. argh03:56
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rraajjAnyone knows where the configuration file for gtk-engines-qt is located?03:56
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sercikktorrent and samba are completely different03:56
xRaich[o] 2xrraajj: $HOME/.gtk_qt_engine_rc03:57
rraajjxRaich[o] 2x: Okay, thanks!03:57
ChaniI need to start using lvm. I've got my data all backed up, but I'm not sure what I have to do to make my kubuntu ready for lvm...03:57
Chanianyone here know much about lvm?03:57
rraajjThis was thrown by kcontrol when I try saving my gtk-engines-qt configurations: "QFile::writeBlock: File not open"03:57
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ChaniI'm planning to have only /boot outside of the lvm, so my initrd thing will need to be able to do lvm stuff. I'm not sure if that's in there by default, or if it'll magicallly know what to do, or anything03:59
rraajjxRaich[o] 2x: Do you know where it saves the font configuration?03:59
xRaich[o] 2xrraajj: dunno maybe .gtkrc-2.0-kde04:00
Lynouregan|y|med: you could still maybe try to strace it to see what it does, but that might or might not be useful and chances are you could not do anything about it anyway.04:00
rraajjxRaich[o] 2x: w00t, it IS there! Hehehe.04:01
xRaich[o] 2xrraajj: happy now? ^^04:01
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rraajjxRaich[o] 2x: Of course!04:02
rraajjAaaah! At last, Firefox is beautiful again! (lol!)04:02
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gan|y|medLynoure: well, maybe i'll have go and see if the older versions perform better before i pinpoint the prob to opera and waste time writing a bug report04:03
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Lynouregan|y|med: I would assume that to take longer than writing the report, but your mileage might vary.04:06
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oleg04:10
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anvd23 <oleg>  ?04:15
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anvd23hi all04:15
sivaji2009!hi | anvd2304:16
ubotuanvd23: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:16
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ixolitHello. I've just installed kubuntu. Why this doesn't work:04:17
ixolit sudo apt-get install xchat04:17
ixolitReading package lists... Done04:17
ixolitBuilding dependency tree04:17
ixolitReading state information... Done04:17
ixolitE: Couldn't find package xchat04:17
Chanino lvm users here?04:17
osloi'd liek to erase files i have twice or more on my hards drives, how can i do ? wich programs can i use ?04:17
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anvd23ixolit reinstal04:18
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ixolitanvd23, ?04:18
sivaji2009!xchat04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
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Chaniixolit: apt-get update?04:18
sivaji2009ixolit u must know correct package name to install it04:19
sivaji2009!info xchat04:19
ubotuxchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB04:19
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judgenhowdy04:19
Chanixchat happens to be a valid package name, sivaji200904:19
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crdlbixolit, make sure you have universe enabled04:20
crdlb!universe04:20
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:20
sivaji2009Chani then y apt return error04:20
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ixolitby default those repositories are enabled ?04:21
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ixolitapt-get should just work ?04:21
Chaniixolit: double-check that it's enabled. and then update04:22
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kainhello04:29
kaini am having wireless issues04:29
kainmy wireless has worked before but on some networks open and encrypted it stops at 28% configuring device and hangs04:30
kaini just tried to setup my network for work which is a shared key04:30
werskain, you're using feisty right?04:30
kainfeisty?04:30
kainkubuntu 7.404:30
wersthere really is a problem with feisty's knetworkmanager04:30
kainok04:30
wersyup 7.0404:30
kainis there an alternative04:30
wersso you connect manualla04:31
wersmanually04:31
kainhow would i go about that04:31
Chanithere is? uhoh04:31
wersrun "wlassistant"04:31
wersin the terminal04:31
wersthen select your router04:31
kainplease hold installing04:32
kainvia apt get04:32
judgenbig problem. ive reinstalled kubuntu now many times. And sometimes when running Xorg everything comes to a screeching halt and the HDD grinds like out of this world.04:33
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kainthnx brb04:33
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judgenanyone got an idea?04:35
korobase!Adept_crash04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept_crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
korobase!Adept04:35
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:35
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sivaji2009korobase what happen to u r adept04:35
judgen!rss-glx04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rss-glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
judgen!akregator04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about akregator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
BluesKajjudgen, how much memory do you have ? and how large is your swap file?04:35
judgenBluesKaj: my ram is 2gb and my swapfile? dont you mean swap partition?04:36
BluesKajyeah04:36
wersdo you know how to run Metisse on Kubuntu?04:36
korobasecrash for Adept_update04:36
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korobase!Adept_update crash04:37
BluesKaj!aptfix04:37
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:37
judgenBluesKaj: 5gb04:37
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BluesKajwell, swap that large is wasted judgen04:38
judgenBluesKaj: automatic partitioning04:38
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judgenBlueDevil: any idea why my hdd grinds so horribly?04:39
BluesKajanyway , not knowing what errors are , it's difficult to diagnose04:39
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judgeni get no errors afaik. It just stops the system and grinds the hdd's for a minute or so, then continues as normal04:40
BluesKajjudgen, it could be the fan that's grinding04:40
judgenno it isnt04:40
korobaseHow to add up the Adept_update's downloading threads?04:40
judgenBluesKaj: fanless computer04:41
wersusing Kubuntu, how do I change my wireless router's SSID and WEP?04:41
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kain_wers?04:41
wersyes?04:41
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kainit didn't work04:43
kainit wouldn't let me connect with the appropriate settings04:43
kainshared hex key04:43
kainthe network shows and everything04:43
kainand i have the key04:43
BluesKajjudgen, then i have no clue ...maybe one of the 'heavyhitters' can help04:43
wershave you closed knetworkmanager?04:44
kainyes04:44
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kainbrb04:45
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fisicociao a tutti04:47
Minataku!it04:48
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:48
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Minataku:)04:48
fisicook04:48
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sivajiis there anything like stand by as in desktop ruler windows04:50
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kain_test04:52
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kainyeah still no wireless :(04:58
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kainwers what else can i try?04:58
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david_howdy partners05:00
david_does anyone in here know how to select your default audio device?05:00
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david_in gnome IIRC there's a setting, but i can't find it here except for in KMIX, which just changes it temporarily, after you restart05:00
david_programs like amarok dont let you select device either05:01
kaini'm having issues connecting to wireless networks05:01
werskain, try to manually connect using system settings or kcontrol05:02
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BluesKajdavid , in the terminal : alsamixer..unmute the ctrls with the letter m05:02
kaini got all the drivers and stuff for my broadcom dell 1390 mini and stuff setup i had it connect to an open network once nothing since05:02
kainhow wers i'm new to linux/kubuntu05:03
wersK Menu--> System Settings05:03
kainok05:03
wersopen network settings05:03
kainin05:03
kainnow?05:03
werspress the administrator mode button05:04
david_BluesKaj: they're not muted05:04
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david_it's just on the wrong device, i have 2 sound cards05:04
wersthen edit "ra0" if it is the label of your wireless lan05:04
david_in gnome and windows you can switch but i can't do it on KDE except temporarily05:04
zipperI have an Intel HDA onboard soundcard and a Soundblaster Audigy 4 soundcard. The Intel HDA is set as default, but i want to use my audigy card instead... How to do this?05:05
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david_zipper - my prob EXACTLY05:05
zipper!help05:05
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:05
BluesKajdavid_, sy/settings/soundsys/hardware/select the audio device/advanced linux sound architecture/apply05:05
david_except i have a catalinia not audigy05:05
zipperdavid_: heh, sorry, havent been following the chat05:05
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david_BluesKaj: it's set to that already05:05
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zipperdavid_: i dont suppose you've found a solution yet?05:05
BluesKajwhat yer soundcard , david_ ?05:05
david_zipper: nope, in progress05:05
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david_BluesKaj: Envy24, shows up as chaintech, but it doen'st  matter05:06
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kainwers i got nothing just a big red box05:06
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david_BluesKaj: i'm just tyring to select between two, i can do it in alsa mixer, but i have to reboot for it to take effect05:06
david_and then it will randomly change back to the default05:06
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werskain, isn't there a "ra0" interface that you can edit?05:07
kainno05:07
BluesKajdavid_, try this tutorial : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)05:07
kaineth0 and eth105:07
david_BluesKaj: thanks, ill check it out05:07
wersohh... do you know which one is your wlan?05:08
kainyes05:08
kaineth105:08
wersselect it to configure that interface05:08
kainthey are both greyed out and disabled for some reason05:09
kainwhen i hit admin mode the tabs disappear and i get a red outline on the box05:09
david_zipper: i forgot to tell you something05:09
david_zipper: i can get my card working, it just requires a reboot, and will randomly switch back to the HDA Intel05:10
werskain, after you hit admin mode, have you entered your root password?05:10
david_zipper: right click the speaker icon, click show mixer window05:10
kaindoesn't ask me to05:10
david_zipper: select your card in the top right dropdown box05:10
david_also, right click and on sound icon and select master channel, and do the same05:11
wersit should.. if you do not enter your password, you cant edit it05:11
david_zipper: then reboot and it should be set up temporarily05:11
david_zipper: let me know if that works05:11
wersafter hitting admin mode, see if a window will popup to ask for your password05:11
kainii know it should05:12
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kainbrb reboot05:12
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wers!metisse05:17
ubotuMetisse is Mandriva's composite window manager. For more information, see http://www.mandriva.com/projects/metisse05:17
wers!howto metisse05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about howto metisse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
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lucahi everyone05:25
wers!knetworkmanager05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
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BluesKaj!network05:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:25
lucaimportant question - if I want to install the NVIDIA binary driver from the site, should I first uninstall the nvidia debian package?05:26
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BluesKaj!nVidia05:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:27
lucathanks05:27
slow-motionhallo05:28
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scififanhey all05:30
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scififani just noticed over the last couple of days the HDD in my Toshiba Satellite never stops spinning... is this a really bad sign?05:30
scififanaudibly, too. i never noticed this before05:31
scififanand it05:31
scififanis only 6 months old05:31
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^RiaN^can someone crack this >>>  6d268c42e7fd6993f7531dfe348afaad05:36
xerosisscififan: have you tried running top?05:36
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ardchoille^RiaN^: I seriously doubt it. What was usded to make it? md5? sha1? blowfish? IDEA?05:39
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XVampireXHi, is anyone here using noatun?05:39
XVampireXIt's only playing ogg vorbis for me05:39
lucaok I think I have a BIG problem with Nvidia drivers...05:40
XVampireXGood for you :P05:40
XVampireXWhat is it?05:40
XVampireXYour X doesn't start?05:40
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lucaI have a Geforce 7300 which should use the nvidia-glx-new drfivers05:40
XVampireXand?05:40
lucano it does start using the default 9631 drivers05:40
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XVampireXSo what's the problem?05:40
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lucapoint is that for example I cannot start Oblivion here on Ubuntu with the old ones05:41
^RiaN^ardchoille: i've try md5 but it's doesn't make a word05:41
XVampireXyou can't have both drivers installed05:41
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lucayeah but if I try to use the nvidia-glx-new deb package05:41
lucausing apt05:41
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lucaI cannot start X anymore EVEN IF it is the right driver05:41
lucait does not map the PCI right, I think, or so the output made me think05:42
XVampireXyou need other things too05:42
lucawhat shoudl they be?05:42
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ardchoille^RiaN^: It might not be a word. It may be a md5sum.. or a line of gibberish that was md5'd to make a string. To make some of my passwords, I take a string of gibberish, md5sum it, then sha1sum it. I seriously doubt that string will be of any use to you.05:42
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david_zipper: did you ever fix the sound card paroblem?05:43
XVampireXlook for dependencies05:43
XVampireXlike linux-restricted drivers05:43
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lucawell adept says almost everything is installed and suggests nvidia-new-kernel-source and nvidia-settings05:45
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lucalet's see...05:45
^RiaN^maybe it's a website05:45
^RiaN^ardchoille:  maybe it's a website05:45
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lucaok now I should *just* configure my xorg.conf file *shudders*05:47
lucatrying it out...05:47
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XVampireXluca: try sudo nvidia-xconfig05:47
lucaXVampireX: already done05:47
lucaless try it... :)05:48
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david_does anyone know how to restart the sound system, eg if i changed hardware devices?05:50
^RiaN^david: /etc/init.d/alsa restart05:53
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lu-baodid my question arrive ?05:53
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_4strOlu-bao: no05:53
^RiaN^somebody know what is YACE05:54
lu-baomh :( okay um how to install nvidia proprietary drivers cause i need them for full 3D support05:54
XVampireXanyone using noatun?05:54
Minataku!nvidia05:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:54
XVampireXMinataku: you beat me! :P05:54
david_^RiaN^: i'm getting a NO such file or directory on that05:54
MinatakuHeehee05:54
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^RiaN^david_:  open a terminal and type that05:55
david_^RiaN^: yep, in a terminal05:55
MinatakuENOENT05:56
XVampireX!noatun05:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about noatun - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:56
^RiaN^!yace05:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:56
dthackerI trying to use a site that requires a java plugin for FF.  Is that available as Ubuntu package?05:56
XVampireXDoes anyone here use noatun?05:56
david_thanks, im out05:56
MinatakuI don't, sorry05:56
Minataku!info noatun05:56
ubotunoatun: media player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 2605 kB, installed size 6616 kB05:56
^RiaN^what is noatun05:56
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ardchoille!java | dthacker05:57
ubotudthacker: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:57
XVampireXYes but it only plays free formats here05:57
^RiaN^!devede05:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:57
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MinatakuXVampireX: Yes, yes, incredibly annoying politics05:57
dthackerardchoille: tnx05:57
Minataku!restricted05:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:57
MinatakuTry that05:57
_4strO!codec | XVampireX05:57
ubotuXVampireX: please see above05:57
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MinatakuYeah, it's a pain in the ass, blame the popularity and Debian roots05:58
XVampireXI have it all installed, amarok works, mplayer works, kaffeine works, etc.... just not noatun05:58
MinatakuThere are other media players05:58
MinatakuWhy use that crap? :P05:58
ardchoillelol05:58
^RiaN^what software that convert .deb to .rpm05:58
^RiaN^is alien can do that05:59
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XVampireXWell amarok is heavy :P and actually I started using ktorrent and when I do preview, it loads the music in noatun... :P05:59
ardchoille^RiaN^: alien can but it's dangerous05:59
ardchoille!alien | ^RiaN^05:59
ubotu^RiaN^: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)05:59
^RiaN^oic05:59
ardchoille^RiaN^: What are you trying to install?05:59
MinatakuHe wants DEB to RPM06:00
MinatakuRight?06:00
ardchoilleOh, missed that bit.06:00
^RiaN^i've to os06:00
lu-baohow to set resolution at 1280x800 ? cant choose this resolution in settings from kde :( but its my natively resolution for my HD ready notebook screen06:00
^RiaN^pclinuxos big daddy and kubuntu06:00
Minataku^RiaN^: Mixing packages from repositories and especially distributions is a VERY BAD IDEA06:00
^RiaN^big daddy using rpm06:00
MinatakuI highly recommend using the repositories available to their corresponding distribution06:01
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MinatakuMixing packages between distributions WILL cause you serious trouble06:01
^RiaN^thank's for the warning06:01
^RiaN^:)06:01
MinatakuNo problem06:01
ardchoilleI watched as someone on Fedora once ignored our advice and installed an rpm which was converted from a deb.. trashed the whole system.06:01
MinatakuI know this from experience, BTW XD06:01
Minatakuardchoille: Mine wasn't that bad06:02
ardchoilleMinataku: This one replaced system libs06:02
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ardchoilleWhich is why it's dangerous06:02
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MinatakuMine was trying to install an RPM from ??? on SuSE, it had 5 deps, which each had 5 more deps, which had 5 MORE deps06:02
ardchoilleAh, dependency hell.06:02
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MinatakuI gave up in a screaming, thrashing fit06:02
ardchoillehehe06:02
MinatakuI use Gentoo now06:03
ardchoilleMinataku: If you had kept following that, you may have ended up with a completely different distro, lol06:03
lu-baoomg gentoo xD happy compiling then :)06:03
^RiaN^ever hear opendns06:03
MinatakuIf Portage doesn't have it, which isn't very likely, I can compile it myself without having to work within the packaging system06:03
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MinatakuIt's also compiled specifically for my system and specifications06:04
scififan anyone have a clue why my HDD would spin constantly when top shows nothing running besides the normal daemons and a  browser and irc client? this has been happening for a couple of days now.06:04
MinatakuI don't want part X but I do want part Y, that's what I get.06:04
Minatakuscififan: The HDD is _supposed_ to spin all the time06:04
ardchoilleMinataku: I have 300Gb drives.. it's hardly an issue ;)06:04
Minatakuardchoille: Not the point06:05
scififanminataku... i never used to hear it. now i do. i've notived this only in the last couple of days06:05
MinatakuIf the system is in operating mode (outside of power-saving) the HDDs _should_ be spinning06:05
^RiaN^Minataku:  what's software can resize my partition06:05
ardchoille!qtparted06:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:05
ardchoille!partition06:05
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter06:05
MinatakuI don't trust partition resizing06:05
scififanand the fan starts and stops more often than it used to... strange for a laptop only 6 months old06:05
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MinatakuEspecially if NTFS is involved06:06
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scififanlooks like an excure to get a new macbook :)06:06
Minatakuscififan: Yeah, that'll help. *rolls eyes*06:06
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scififanjoke, dude06:07
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MinatakuSorry, no love here for Microsoft Jr.06:07
Minatakuaka Apple06:07
lu-baohelp06:07
^RiaN^Minataku: ever heard YACE06:07
MinatakuI have not06:07
scififanwell, at least they don't include MS software out of the box06:07
lu-baoSystem  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager     <--- where to find that?06:07
Minatakuscififan: They include worse06:07
lu-baoi dont have english system06:08
^RiaN^they say it's an offline server06:08
ardchoilleWell, I have 300Gb drives, I install lots of stuff, and I've never used more than 10% of any drive. The slowest app I have is OpenOffice and it takes 2 and a half seconds to load. So, I don't see the importance of "having apps optimised" for my system. Never had any problems with Ubuntu or Kubuntu.. it's always been stable and fast.06:08
Minatakulu-bao: There are localized channels that speak languages other than English06:08
^RiaN^but i don't know where tro dl it06:08
lu-baoMinataku german?06:08
Minataku!gr06:08
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes06:08
MinatakuEr06:08
MinatakuNo06:08
Minataku!de06:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:08
MinatakuSorry06:08
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lu-baoah thx :)06:08
MinatakuThat first one is Greek, not German XD06:08
MinatakuNo problem06:08
lu-baoi know XD06:08
MinatakuRetryable brain error06:09
MinatakuX306:09
^RiaN^is kubuntu have system restore like windows06:10
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scififanminataku...what' so bad about apple other than closed source?06:10
Minatakuscififan: Closed hardware06:10
scififanwell they run well together06:10
MinatakuThe fact that 99% of Darwin is raped FreeBSD code06:11
scififanallowed under the bsd license06:11
MinatakuIt's still deplorable06:11
MinatakuWhat, they should be praised for ripping off their entire OS?06:11
MinatakuMaybe we should praise car thieves for stealing cars, too06:11
ardchoille!off-topic06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
scififanwell, the bsd license encourages this.... look at all the bsds... they all borrow from one another regularly... even ms took from the freebsd network stack06:12
^RiaN^!restore06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
^RiaN^:D06:12
scififan!dating girls06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dating girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
scififanlol06:12
MinatakuHeehee06:12
Minataku!anything06:12
^RiaN^!id06:12
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.06:12
ubotujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia06:12
MinatakuDamn it!06:13
MinatakuXD06:13
Minataku*lightbulb*06:13
ardchoilleROFL!!!!!!06:13
Minataku!anything06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
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Minataku>:D06:13
MinatakuI love you, invisible control codes06:13
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Minataku!06:14
ardchoilleKudos to the person(s) who wrote ubotu06:14
MinatakuHeh06:14
MinatakuHrm...06:14
Minataku!^H06:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about h - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
MinatakuInteresting result06:14
Minataku!*06:14
ardchoille!botabuse06:14
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:14
Minatakuardchoille: Oh, shut up, it's not like anything is happening right now06:15
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MinatakuIf you're gonna call me names, don't PM me.06:16
MinatakuYou're also ignored, and as if you cared, I'm 22.06:18
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Panda200xHe can't hear you if he's ignored?06:19
Panda200x:P06:19
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coreymon77Panda200x: wrong, he can hear you06:21
MinatakuHeya, Daisuke_Ido06:21
coreymon77Panda200x: he just cant reply06:21
Panda200xMy old IRC Client didn't do that06:21
Panda200x:p06:21
Buy-ByeJust curious -> who's not using kubuntu right now?06:21
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MinatakuMe06:22
Panda200x:P06:23
Panda200x:O You have the same CPU Speed as me06:23
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Buy-Byeminataku> what are you using? please don't say windoh's06:24
MinatakuGentoo06:24
Buy-Byeahhhh06:24
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ardchoilleWhoa, kwin-style-dekorator is cool06:26
Minataku[12:26:39]  -Minataku- VERSION xchat 2.6.8 Linux 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 [i686/2.66GHz] 06:27
Buy-Byedoes anyone know if skype video can work on kubuntu?06:27
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Panda200xWhy would it not?06:27
MinatakuIs there a Skype client for Linux with it?06:27
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MinatakuIf not, try it in WINE06:27
salmoranhola06:27
MinatakuIf still no, then no06:27
Panda200x:P06:27
MinatakuHi, salmoran06:27
Panda200xAnd make sure your video camera works too.06:27
MinatakuOr not06:28
MinatakuThey don't need to see you06:28
MinatakuXD06:28
Buy-Byeskype client = yes - but video not officially supported as yet06:28
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coreymon77officially being the key word06:29
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coreymon77but since when did linux users really care about official support06:29
Buy-Byeexactly06:29
Buy-Byejust wondering if anyone else has solved this already06:30
shao_loI have a crash in amarok that is caused by a bug in taglib http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114469  The amarok guys seem to think this will be broken forever/or until taglib is revved.  Is there anythign that can be done to move this along?06:30
Buy-ByeI will try wine though06:30
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coreymon77<