[01:32] <DanaG> Bug: my iAudio6 in MTP mode still mounts as a UMS device.
[01:33] <crimsun> great, now where's the lshal debugging info for it in a nicely formatted bug report? ;-)
[01:34] <vorbote> sudo aptitude update
[01:37] <DanaG> Oddly, usb-storage still claims the device, and it works properly.
[01:38] <crimsun> DanaG: that's not surprising.  My iPod 30g Video does, too.
[01:40] <DanaG> I don't usually use MTP mode, anyway, but I was curious to see how it worked.
[02:27] <scotth> hey, anyone else have a problem with your gnome session failing to start
[02:27] <scotth> I think it has something to do with dbus, but I'm not sure
[02:28] <scotth> I log in and things look normal and the spalsh disappears and it doesn't do anything else
[02:28] <scotth> any thoughts?
[02:56] <roostishaw> hello, I read on the doc page for Gusty Gibbon that there will be improved support for laptops. My question: will ubuntu still run at 400 degrees on my macbook?
[03:00] <derekS> anyone want to play monopoly on Atlantik?
[03:17] <crimsun> 400 degrees?  Um, right.  I want whatever crack he's smoking.
[03:24] <DanaG> Odd thing with powertop:
[03:25] <DanaG> when you plug in AC, it indicates a very high NEGATIVE number of wakeups per second.
[03:27] <crimsun> mm signedness.
[03:39] <DanaG> crimsun: where should I post the lshal info on that usb device?
[03:41] <DanaG> Argh, I have to restart pulseaudio for it to start using my virtual device that depends on hw:1
[03:41] <Arwen> quick question - is Tribe 1 actually usable? (no, don't gimme that beta = 3vil crud, I want answers based on experience)
[03:43] <DanaG> Oh great, amarokapp just started eating my cpu.
[03:44] <DanaG> I'd say "raping" but that's a bad term no matter where you use it.
[03:44] <Arwen> ok, guess it's not usable
[03:44] <DanaG> Oh, and gnome-session sometimes dies for me.
[03:45] <DanaG> Aaaargh, now whenever I try to move amarok to my upmix51 device, pulseaudio dies.
[03:47] <DanaG> WTF?  Amarok is slaughtering my CPU.
[03:48] <DanaG> pulseaudio: modules/module-alsa-sink.c:193: do_write: Assertion `(memchunk->length % u->frame_size) == 0' failed.
[03:50] <DanaG> ....and AGAIN!
[03:50] <DanaG> Yay, now my CPU is running hot because Amarok is abusing it.
[03:53] <DanaG> Odd.... and now this time it worked.
[03:53] <dfgas> what version of alsa does gusty have?
[03:53] <DanaG> All I changed was to add a ctl for the virtual device.
[03:53] <DanaG> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14.
[03:53] <DanaG> Compiled on Jun  3 2007 for kernel 2.6.22-6-generic (SMP).
[03:54] <Arwen> 2.6.22?
[03:55] <DanaG> Linux m685 2.6.22-6-generic #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 19:24:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:55] <DanaG> (m685 is my (boring, need better ideas) hostname.
[03:55] <DanaG> )
[03:55] <Arwen> DanaG, try "endsville" - but anyway, huh, I didn't know 2.6.22 was out
[03:56] <DanaG> It's in rc-something-or-other.
[03:56] <Arwen> shame, fglrx is only compatible up to 2.6.20 and I don't know about nvidia..
[04:25] <crimsun> dfgas: it does not have 1.0.14 final yet.
[04:25] <crimsun> dfgas: but I don't know whether you're referring to in-kernel or alsa-driver.
[04:25] <crimsun> DanaG: in a bug report, as I mentioned.
[04:28] <dfgas> darn
[04:28] <DanaG> For what package?  mtp-tools, or something kernel-related (like libusual)>
[04:28] <DanaG> ?
[04:28] <dfgas> it locked my laptop up cold
[04:28] <DanaG> (argh, I hate when I hit the wrong punctuation.)
[04:29] <crimsun> DanaG: what's the actual bug?
[04:30] <crimsun> dfgas: we won't be merging alsa-driver 1.0.14 until after Sunday anyhow.
[04:30] <crimsun> s/we/I/
[04:30] <dfgas> i doubt my sound will still work right
[04:31] <crimsun> are you looking to fix it?
[04:31] <crimsun> if so, you have to stop with the omission of necessary debugging details
[04:32] <dfgas> i have a sigmatel stac 9200    HDA Nvidia
[04:33] <DanaG> Oh, in my case:
[04:33] <crimsun> dfgas: nowhere near enough info.  See my Launchpad page for the URL you need to download and execute.
[04:34] <crimsun> (or point me to an existing bug you've filed)
[04:34] <DanaG> the bug is that when I have my iAudio6 in MTP mode, usb-storage claims it.  Even if I modprobe -r usb-storage, mtp-detect doesn't detect it.
[04:34] <DanaG> aah, mtp-hotplug seems to have a FIXED list of device IDs.
[04:38] <DanaG> I suppose I should post the output in UMS mode, also.
[04:59] <DanaG> Oh, I can confirm that input DOES now work on the cardbus Audigy (though pulseaudio insists on using microphone),
[04:59] <DanaG> but the STAC9250 still stalls on input.
[06:21] <scotth> hello all, anyone else having trouble getting logged into gnome in gutsy?
[06:21] <DarkMageZ> does the usplash work but then x seems to fail to load?
[06:21] <scotth> nope
[06:21] <scotth> I get gdm up
[06:21] <scotth> I log in, the splash is displayed
[06:22] <scotth> and then it just goes to the brown background and does nothing
[06:22] <DarkMageZ> you've gotten further than me then :p
[06:22] <scotth> if I kill it with c-a-backspace I see my real background for a second before it dies
[06:24] <scotth> DarkMageZ, it seems like xorg is misconfigured, try to move your xorg.conf out of the way and see if the new automagical configuration works
[06:24] <scotth> otherwise dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is your friend
[06:24] <DarkMageZ> yeah, thats what i first suspected. but no
[06:26] <scotth> just curious, do you still have dbus-launch on your system?
[06:28] <DarkMageZ> nuked it
[06:28] <scotth> nuked your system or doesn't have it?
[06:28] <DarkMageZ> system
[06:28] <scotth> ahh
[06:28] <scotth> anyone have dbus-launch on their gutsy system?
[06:29] <scotth> I think its disappearance is my problem
[06:30] <DarkMageZ> dbus-launch is neither a binary or a package installed on my working gutsy system
[06:30] <scotth> its in dbus-x11
[06:30] <scotth> which isn't installed
[06:30] <scotth> lets see if that fixes my problem
[06:33] <scotth> hmm, not entirely the case
[06:39] <DanaG> In Gutsy, I have issues with gnome-session often segfaulting.
[06:39] <DanaG> Try fail-safe.
[06:39] <scotth> failsafe exhibits the same behavior
[06:39] <scotth> and I don't think gnome-session is dieing
[06:39] <scotth> that would be too easy
[06:40] <scotth> :-D
[06:42] <scotth> yeah, gnome-session seems healthy as can be
[06:42] <scotth> it looks ilke a healthy session, the only thing is that nothing is being displayed, only a brown background
[06:45] <scotth> anyone else using compiz on gutsy?
[06:46] <Starks> can someone help me install gutsy on my spare laptop? it's an inspiron 640m/e1405 that won't let X start when installing ubuntu from scratch?
[06:46] <Starks> i can't even get X to start for the LiveCD.
[06:46] <Starks> reconfiguring the X server does jack.
[06:47] <scotth> what video chip are you using?
[06:48] <Starks> GMA950
[06:48] <Starks> i945
[06:49] <scotth> I have a 945GM that works
[06:49] <scotth> what video driver is it trying to use?
[06:50] <Starks> dunnol
[06:50] <Starks> i've tried i810, intel, and VESA
[06:50] <Starks> nothing works
[06:50] <scotth> does it display an error?
[06:51] <Starks> X won't start.
[06:51] <Starks> would you like to diagnose?
[06:51] <scotth> have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:51] <scotth> any lines that start with EE or anything interesting?
[07:03] <scotth> hmm, my problem seemed to be compiz related
[07:04] <scotth> time to go find me a bug report
[07:09] <DanaG> Starks: what video DRIVER are you using?
[07:09] <DanaG> There's a new driver "intel" that supposedly does what 915resolution typically did.
[07:10] <Hobbsee> oh, the modesetting
[07:10] <Hobbsee> i was going to try that one out again
[07:10] <Hobbsee> although...wasnt htat supposed to be the default in 1.3?
[07:14] <Starks> dana, nothing works and i can't download the driver i would want from tty1
[07:15] <scotth> Starks, might I suggest not running gutsy? its still in alpha...
[07:19] <DanaG> One thing I have to do with my nvidia:
[07:19] <DanaG> not use vga=anything, and not use splash.
[07:19] <DanaG> Otherwise all my ttys are blank.
[07:20] <DanaG> After seeing it with wmgui.
[07:24] <scotth> DanaG, I agree
[07:24] <DanaG> Argh, I found a way to slaughter pulseaudio:
[07:24] <DanaG> Play music through it, and have it set to do beep.
[07:24] <DanaG> Then hold down tab.
[07:25] <scotth> I think that might kill most sound servers, though probably still worth a bug
[07:27] <Hobbsee> nooo...no more bugs.
[07:27] <Hobbsee> for every bug you file, you must triage 3.
[07:33] <scotth> Hobbsee, deal
[07:34] <Hobbsee> oh, and does that count for sync requests and such, i wonder....
[07:34] <scotth> yaya now I can sit around and just complain about how bad gutsy is!!!
[07:34] <Hobbsee> hah.  nope.
[07:34] <Hobbsee> fix it :)
[07:34] <scotth> :-[
[09:06] <DanaG> Argh, amarokapp is cpu-eating again.
[09:07] <Enverex> Has the .22-6 kernel been compiled without paravirtual support?
[09:08] <DarkMageZ> DanaG, how much cpu is it eating? i'm getting 10% on my amd athlon xp 2100
[09:12] <rasher> Enverex, the kernel config is in /boot/config-*
[09:26] <Enverex> rasher, grepping for para or virt doesn't seem to find anything so I'm at a loss
[10:31] <Enverex> Does module-assistant make a log anywhere?
[10:39] <crimsun> yes
[10:39] <crimsun> you might look in the usual place, /var/log/*/*modass*
[10:41] <Enverex> Already have, no luck
[10:41] <crimsun> did it fail or succeed?  It definitely preserves logs if it failed.
[10:41] <Enverex> Failed
[10:44] <Enverex> No logs with module or modass in their name in /var/log
[10:44] <Enverex> (or deeper)
[10:45] <Enverex> Or just mod even
[11:06] <rasher> Hey, what happened to my ttys? They're black, but I can login. Where do I look to figure this one out?
[11:07] <coNP> rasher: does "reset" help?
[11:08] <rasher> it would seem not
[11:09] <rasher> Nope. Tried it a couple of times to make sure I didn't typo it
[11:12] <rasher> I'm certain that they're working, because I can see processes running when I check in X. The screen's just completely black.
[11:15] <coNP> rasher: interesting
[11:16] <Enverex> No ideas where the file is then?
[11:18] <rasher> coNP: I'm thinking usplash might be the culprit. I'll try booting without splash
[11:20] <rasher> coNP, oh nevermind >_< I'm a fool. Set a vga= line in grub that doesn't work
[11:20] <coNP> :)
[11:59] <buz> does gutsy already have drivers for ipw 4965?
[12:21] <HELLium> someone hlp me with gdm, after yestreday's restar, gdm start's for 1 sec, then cloes, and starts again with busy mouse cursor and default X background
[12:39] <antisystem32> hola
[12:39] <coNP> hi antisystem32
[12:45] <antisystem32> tranquilo
[03:55] <Zorlin> Ooh.
[03:55] <Zorlin> Is it worth running Gutsy for now?
[03:55] <Zorlin> on a virtual machine or something? anything new?
[03:56] <coNP> Zorlin: it might prove interesting if you have some spare time
[03:57] <Zorlin> I'll take that under advisement
[03:57] <Zorlin> Where's the URL for the latest builds?
[03:57] <Zorlin> [iso form, preferably] 
[04:01] <Hobbsee> Zorlin: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <Megaqwerty> Hi, Just wanted to tell whomever this concerns that the Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 1 CD forgot to change the release name in the Firefox Homepage (This is a clean install). Nothing big, but I thought I would bring it to your attention, as it's a quick fix.
[05:33] <DanaG> Oh hey, what's with the "Hide fsview from menu" patch?
[05:34] <cbdaqb> hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in gutsy
[05:36] <cbdaqb> hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in gutsy
[05:40] <Hobbsee> !repeat
[05:40] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:40] <Hobbsee> !weekend
[05:40] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> !offtopic
[05:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:40] <cbdaqb> hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in gutsy
[05:40] <Hobbsee> why dont you try it?
[05:41] <cbdaqb> i will im burning the disk right now
[05:41] <cbdaqb> just wanted ask anybody who tried
[05:41] <Hobbsee> see the note about the weekend.
[05:41] <Hobbsee> and the number of people in the channel
[05:41] <cbdaqb> yea
[05:41] <DanaG> s/no/know/
[05:42] <DanaG> Oh, a note for burning CDs: burn at slow speeds for better usability.
[05:43] <cbdaqb> yes thank you the reason im really trying gutsy is because feisty dosnt have wi-fi support
[05:44] <cbdaqb> but the with the new bug free install of feisty ill try both
[05:45] <cbdaqb> danaG wats s/no/know mean?
[05:46] <Megaqwerty> I'm trying to find where it shows what projects are currently being worked on, the status of the projects being worked on, which are completed, etc. I just can't seem to remember the name. Does anyone know what it's called/it's url by chance?
[05:46] <wamty> can anyone help me configure my wireless card
[05:47] <cbdaqb> (megaqwerty)https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[05:48] <cbdaqb> its at the top by the way
[05:48] <cbdaqb> under topic
[05:48] <Megaqwerty> cbdaqb: thanks, but I meant the specific features, not just deadlines.
[05:49] <cbdaqb> o ok
[05:49] <Megaqwerty> i.e. The status of the GTK X.Org configure program
[05:49] <cbdaqb> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411868 i dont no check out this page maybe
[05:52] <DanaG> Oh, s/x/y means search for x and replace with y.
[05:53] <cbdaqb> ok
[05:56] <cbdaqb> well the gutsy burn is almost done
[05:58] <Megaqwerty> cbdaqb: well, I found something closer to what I was looking for: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+roadmap
[06:00] <cbdaqb> nice
[06:05] <cbdaqb> ok its done ill go try it now
[06:10] <ioboss> hi..
[06:11] <Megaqwerty> hi
[06:11] <ioboss> hi, i have upgraded to guitsy.. but now i can't switch to other consolle from alt F7 to other alt f1 etc etc
[06:11] <ioboss> witch packege i have to reinstall?
[06:11] <poningru> are you doing ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:11] <ioboss> yes.. if i do
[06:12] <Megaqwerty> Well, to be honest, it didn't work for me in feisty either, I had to be at the login prompt before it would let me into the console at ctrl+alt+f1
[06:12] <ioboss> ctrl alt f1 the screen will be not leggible
[06:12] <ioboss> but don't crash
[06:13] <ioboss> i dont understande megaqwerty.... what does you have done?
[06:14] <ioboss> sorry for may bad english..
[06:14] <Megaqwerty> If I understand your question, I log out, and at the log in screen I do Ctrl+Alt+F1. That drops me at the console.
[06:15] <Megaqwerty> it bypasses any other keyboard shortcuts that may be active, and blocking that key sequence.
[06:15] <Megaqwerty> *by blocking that key sequence.
[06:16] <Megaqwerty> blast, I had it right the first time I said it :)
[06:16] <ioboss> ok, i've understanded.. my problem is an other.. consolle switched but the screen is not visible.. there more orizzontal stroke..
[06:17] <ioboss> i don't understande what packege of guisty have changed my consolle.. (i think)
[06:17] <Megaqwerty> Oh, so you just can't read the screen at tty1?
[06:17] <ioboss> yes
[06:17] <ioboss> i'va also changed resolution by /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:17] <ioboss> but i can't see any...
[06:17] <Megaqwerty> Well, Did you install any proprietary graphics drivers?
[06:18] <ioboss> no..
[06:18] <ioboss> my driver is ati
[06:19] <ioboss> i have to install restricted driver? i hope to don't use that..
[06:19] <buz> ioboss: for what card
[06:20] <Megaqwerty> Oh, no. I was thinking that the restricted driver would be the problem, not the solution. ;)
[06:20] <ioboss> ati x 300
[06:20] <buz> should work with ati driver
[06:20] <buz> unless its an integrated thingy
[06:20] <ioboss> the consolle graphics work very well.. i have also compiz running
[06:21] <buz> if you have compiz running chances are the driver works ;)
[06:21] <ioboss> it's as the refresh of text consolle works bad
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> Okay, now I'm confused.
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> You can see the console at tty1?
[06:21] <Megaqwerty> it's not a random mess?
[06:22] <ioboss> i can switch to tty1 but can't read any, but i can switch after to tty7
[06:22] <ioboss> i can't see if there's any messenge
[06:22] <ioboss> but pc don't crash
[06:23] <Megaqwerty> what exactly is it you see when you switch to tty1?
[06:23] <ioboss> buz: why i have to change driver? i use aixgl
[06:23] <buz> dont change the driver
[06:23] <DanaG> For me, the TTYs are entirely BLANK unless I boot without vga=anything.
[06:23] <buz> not sure whats going on with your console really
[06:24] <buz> maybe framebuffer console or something like that
[06:24] <ioboss> i see with orizzontal stroke..
[06:24] <ioboss> i use vga=795
[06:24] <ioboss> i probe vga 791 but the problem are still
[06:24] <DanaG> Try without vga=anything.
[06:25] <ioboss> ok.. sorry for my english.. stroke = line
[06:26] <ioboss> i try... see you soon
[06:26] <Megaqwerty> Good Luck
[06:28] <cbdaqb> hi again
[06:28] <Megaqwerty> How did it go?
[06:29] <cbdaqb> so far not
[06:29] <cbdaqb> good
[06:29] <cbdaqb> at all
[06:29] <cbdaqb> its stuck in the kboot prompt
[06:29] <cbdaqb> and its been saying booting syste... for like 10 min now
[06:31] <cbdaqb> im pretty sure its frozen
[06:32] <ioboss> ok.. you have reason,.. without vga=xxx it wotks fine..
[06:32] <ioboss> why now i cant set vga=795?
[06:32] <ioboss> i have no idea
[06:32] <cbdaqb> i better report my bug to launchpad
[06:34] <ioboss> i use it from one years but i'm not so expert to understande..
[06:36] <ioboss> ok.. thanks anywhere..
[06:36] <ioboss> bye
[07:01] <khermans> anyone noticing weirdness with Gutsy?
[07:01] <khermans> like windowing buttons being all over the place?
[07:02] <khermans> no icons in Gnome menus
[07:02] <khermans> i did a rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf*
[07:02] <khermans> even adding a new user with new desktop has nasty gnome look and fonts are munged too
[07:03] <DanaG> Gnome-session sometimes segfaults for me.
[07:10] <phixxor> hey y'alls
[07:10] <phixxor> I want to put gutsy on a third partition
[07:10] <phixxor> but I don't know how to tell it not to mess up grub for the rest of the computer
[07:14] <DanaG> If you make /boot separate, you can share it.
[07:15] <phixxor> ok, so 1. Make a boot partition, 2. Figure out how to share it.
[07:19] <DanaG> That's something you'd also be able to ask about in the #ubuntu (not +1) channel.
[07:20] <DanaG> er, too late, whatever/
[07:20] <DanaG> .
[07:30] <khermans> one useful tip, dont use mirrors when using ubuntu+1
[07:31] <khermans> they are not likely in sync and package dependency issues are common
[07:32] <DanaG> Or keep mirrors AND the official source in sources.list.
[07:32] <DanaG> Put the faster-but-often-obsolete mirrors above the official mirrors, so they'll be preferred.
[07:39] <Hobbsee> DanaG: that's what i do :)
[07:40] <DanaG> For example, mirrors.kernel.org
[07:40] <DanaG> and san1.csc.calpoly.edu/ubuntu
[09:43] <phixnay> Ok, how do you report a bug if it prevents gusty from being installed
[09:44] <phixnay> the spash screen of the cd works, but about a minute into "Start or install ubuntu" I get ata errors
[09:44] <phixnay> (also happened with the feisty boot cd, but not with edgy) I think it has to do to the move to SCSI drivers
[09:48] <DanaG> Did you burn the disk at a slow speed?
[09:48] <DanaG> I've always found that to help.
[09:51] <DanaG> Argh, d*** SSH client.
[09:52] <DanaG> When the server or connection drops me, the client blocks, rather than timing out.
[09:52] <DanaG> I have to kill (I don't remember if I need -9) it.
[09:54] <phixnay> DanaG: 4x
[09:55] <phixnay> it was an rw
[09:55] <phixnay> but the disk is read at first, it fails when the linux loads
[10:31] <Enverex> Hrm HAL doesn't seem to be set up too well. I plugged in my 2GB USB drive, Gnome shows it as an iPod on my desktop and "Music Player" opened :/
[10:35] <DanaG> When I put my iAudio6 in MTP mode, usb-storage still claims it.
[10:35] <DanaG> I'll file a bug on it... next weekend.  Busy with homework this weekend.