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| DanaG | Bug: my iAudio6 in MTP mode still mounts as a UMS device. | 01:32 |
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| crimsun | great, now where's the lshal debugging info for it in a nicely formatted bug report? ;-) | 01:33 |
| vorbote | sudo aptitude update | 01:34 |
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| DanaG | Oddly, usb-storage still claims the device, and it works properly. | 01:37 |
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| crimsun | DanaG: that's not surprising. My iPod 30g Video does, too. | 01:38 |
| DanaG | I don't usually use MTP mode, anyway, but I was curious to see how it worked. | 01:40 |
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| scotth | hey, anyone else have a problem with your gnome session failing to start | 02:27 |
| scotth | I think it has something to do with dbus, but I'm not sure | 02:27 |
| scotth | I log in and things look normal and the spalsh disappears and it doesn't do anything else | 02:28 |
| scotth | any thoughts? | 02:28 |
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| roostishaw | hello, I read on the doc page for Gusty Gibbon that there will be improved support for laptops. My question: will ubuntu still run at 400 degrees on my macbook? | 02:56 |
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| derekS | anyone want to play monopoly on Atlantik? | 03:00 |
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| crimsun | 400 degrees? Um, right. I want whatever crack he's smoking. | 03:17 |
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| DanaG | Odd thing with powertop: | 03:24 |
| DanaG | when you plug in AC, it indicates a very high NEGATIVE number of wakeups per second. | 03:25 |
| crimsun | mm signedness. | 03:27 |
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| DanaG | crimsun: where should I post the lshal info on that usb device? | 03:39 |
| DanaG | Argh, I have to restart pulseaudio for it to start using my virtual device that depends on hw:1 | 03:41 |
| Arwen | quick question - is Tribe 1 actually usable? (no, don't gimme that beta = 3vil crud, I want answers based on experience) | 03:41 |
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| DanaG | Oh great, amarokapp just started eating my cpu. | 03:43 |
| DanaG | I'd say "raping" but that's a bad term no matter where you use it. | 03:44 |
| Arwen | ok, guess it's not usable | 03:44 |
| DanaG | Oh, and gnome-session sometimes dies for me. | 03:44 |
| DanaG | Aaaargh, now whenever I try to move amarok to my upmix51 device, pulseaudio dies. | 03:45 |
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| DanaG | WTF? Amarok is slaughtering my CPU. | 03:47 |
| DanaG | pulseaudio: modules/module-alsa-sink.c:193: do_write: Assertion `(memchunk->length % u->frame_size) == 0' failed. | 03:48 |
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| DanaG | ....and AGAIN! | 03:50 |
| DanaG | Yay, now my CPU is running hot because Amarok is abusing it. | 03:50 |
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| DanaG | Odd.... and now this time it worked. | 03:53 |
| dfgas | what version of alsa does gusty have? | 03:53 |
| DanaG | All I changed was to add a ctl for the virtual device. | 03:53 |
| DanaG | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14. | 03:53 |
| DanaG | Compiled on Jun 3 2007 for kernel 2.6.22-6-generic (SMP). | 03:53 |
| Arwen | 2.6.22? | 03:54 |
| DanaG | Linux m685 2.6.22-6-generic #1 SMP Fri Jun 1 19:24:12 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux | 03:55 |
| DanaG | (m685 is my (boring, need better ideas) hostname. | 03:55 |
| DanaG | ) | 03:55 |
| Arwen | DanaG, try "endsville" - but anyway, huh, I didn't know 2.6.22 was out | 03:55 |
| DanaG | It's in rc-something-or-other. | 03:56 |
| Arwen | shame, fglrx is only compatible up to 2.6.20 and I don't know about nvidia.. | 03:56 |
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| crimsun | dfgas: it does not have 1.0.14 final yet. | 04:25 |
| crimsun | dfgas: but I don't know whether you're referring to in-kernel or alsa-driver. | 04:25 |
| crimsun | DanaG: in a bug report, as I mentioned. | 04:25 |
| dfgas | darn | 04:28 |
| DanaG | For what package? mtp-tools, or something kernel-related (like libusual)> | 04:28 |
| DanaG | ? | 04:28 |
| dfgas | it locked my laptop up cold | 04:28 |
| DanaG | (argh, I hate when I hit the wrong punctuation.) | 04:28 |
| crimsun | DanaG: what's the actual bug? | 04:29 |
| crimsun | dfgas: we won't be merging alsa-driver 1.0.14 until after Sunday anyhow. | 04:30 |
| crimsun | s/we/I/ | 04:30 |
| dfgas | i doubt my sound will still work right | 04:30 |
| crimsun | are you looking to fix it? | 04:31 |
| crimsun | if so, you have to stop with the omission of necessary debugging details | 04:31 |
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| dfgas | i have a sigmatel stac 9200 HDA Nvidia | 04:32 |
| DanaG | Oh, in my case: | 04:33 |
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| crimsun | dfgas: nowhere near enough info. See my Launchpad page for the URL you need to download and execute. | 04:33 |
| crimsun | (or point me to an existing bug you've filed) | 04:34 |
| DanaG | the bug is that when I have my iAudio6 in MTP mode, usb-storage claims it. Even if I modprobe -r usb-storage, mtp-detect doesn't detect it. | 04:34 |
| DanaG | aah, mtp-hotplug seems to have a FIXED list of device IDs. | 04:34 |
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| DanaG | I suppose I should post the output in UMS mode, also. | 04:38 |
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| DanaG | Oh, I can confirm that input DOES now work on the cardbus Audigy (though pulseaudio insists on using microphone), | 04:59 |
| DanaG | but the STAC9250 still stalls on input. | 04:59 |
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| scotth | hello all, anyone else having trouble getting logged into gnome in gutsy? | 06:21 |
| DarkMageZ | does the usplash work but then x seems to fail to load? | 06:21 |
| scotth | nope | 06:21 |
| scotth | I get gdm up | 06:21 |
| scotth | I log in, the splash is displayed | 06:21 |
| scotth | and then it just goes to the brown background and does nothing | 06:22 |
| DarkMageZ | you've gotten further than me then :p | 06:22 |
| scotth | if I kill it with c-a-backspace I see my real background for a second before it dies | 06:22 |
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| scotth | DarkMageZ, it seems like xorg is misconfigured, try to move your xorg.conf out of the way and see if the new automagical configuration works | 06:24 |
| scotth | otherwise dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is your friend | 06:24 |
| DarkMageZ | yeah, thats what i first suspected. but no | 06:24 |
| scotth | just curious, do you still have dbus-launch on your system? | 06:26 |
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| DarkMageZ | nuked it | 06:28 |
| scotth | nuked your system or doesn't have it? | 06:28 |
| DarkMageZ | system | 06:28 |
| scotth | ahh | 06:28 |
| scotth | anyone have dbus-launch on their gutsy system? | 06:28 |
| scotth | I think its disappearance is my problem | 06:29 |
| DarkMageZ | dbus-launch is neither a binary or a package installed on my working gutsy system | 06:30 |
| scotth | its in dbus-x11 | 06:30 |
| scotth | which isn't installed | 06:30 |
| scotth | lets see if that fixes my problem | 06:30 |
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| scotth | hmm, not entirely the case | 06:33 |
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| DanaG | In Gutsy, I have issues with gnome-session often segfaulting. | 06:39 |
| DanaG | Try fail-safe. | 06:39 |
| scotth | failsafe exhibits the same behavior | 06:39 |
| scotth | and I don't think gnome-session is dieing | 06:39 |
| scotth | that would be too easy | 06:39 |
| scotth | :-D | 06:40 |
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| scotth | yeah, gnome-session seems healthy as can be | 06:42 |
| scotth | it looks ilke a healthy session, the only thing is that nothing is being displayed, only a brown background | 06:42 |
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| scotth | anyone else using compiz on gutsy? | 06:45 |
| Starks | can someone help me install gutsy on my spare laptop? it's an inspiron 640m/e1405 that won't let X start when installing ubuntu from scratch? | 06:46 |
| Starks | i can't even get X to start for the LiveCD. | 06:46 |
| Starks | reconfiguring the X server does jack. | 06:46 |
| scotth | what video chip are you using? | 06:47 |
| Starks | GMA950 | 06:48 |
| Starks | i945 | 06:48 |
| scotth | I have a 945GM that works | 06:49 |
| scotth | what video driver is it trying to use? | 06:49 |
| Starks | dunnol | 06:50 |
| Starks | i've tried i810, intel, and VESA | 06:50 |
| Starks | nothing works | 06:50 |
| scotth | does it display an error? | 06:50 |
| Starks | X won't start. | 06:51 |
| Starks | would you like to diagnose? | 06:51 |
| scotth | have a look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 06:51 |
| scotth | any lines that start with EE or anything interesting? | 06:51 |
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| scotth | hmm, my problem seemed to be compiz related | 07:03 |
| scotth | time to go find me a bug report | 07:04 |
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| DanaG | Starks: what video DRIVER are you using? | 07:09 |
| DanaG | There's a new driver "intel" that supposedly does what 915resolution typically did. | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | oh, the modesetting | 07:10 |
| Hobbsee | i was going to try that one out again | 07:10 |
| Hobbsee | although...wasnt htat supposed to be the default in 1.3? | 07:10 |
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| Starks | dana, nothing works and i can't download the driver i would want from tty1 | 07:14 |
| scotth | Starks, might I suggest not running gutsy? its still in alpha... | 07:15 |
| DanaG | One thing I have to do with my nvidia: | 07:19 |
| DanaG | not use vga=anything, and not use splash. | 07:19 |
| DanaG | Otherwise all my ttys are blank. | 07:19 |
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| DanaG | After seeing it with wmgui. | 07:20 |
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| scotth | DanaG, I agree | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Argh, I found a way to slaughter pulseaudio: | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Play music through it, and have it set to do beep. | 07:24 |
| DanaG | Then hold down tab. | 07:24 |
| scotth | I think that might kill most sound servers, though probably still worth a bug | 07:25 |
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| Hobbsee | nooo...no more bugs. | 07:27 |
| Hobbsee | for every bug you file, you must triage 3. | 07:27 |
| scotth | Hobbsee, deal | 07:33 |
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| Hobbsee | oh, and does that count for sync requests and such, i wonder.... | 07:34 |
| scotth | yaya now I can sit around and just complain about how bad gutsy is!!! | 07:34 |
| Hobbsee | hah. nope. | 07:34 |
| Hobbsee | fix it :) | 07:34 |
| scotth | :-[ | 07:34 |
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| DanaG | Argh, amarokapp is cpu-eating again. | 09:06 |
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| Enverex | Has the .22-6 kernel been compiled without paravirtual support? | 09:07 |
| DarkMageZ | DanaG, how much cpu is it eating? i'm getting 10% on my amd athlon xp 2100 | 09:08 |
| rasher | Enverex, the kernel config is in /boot/config-* | 09:12 |
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| Enverex | rasher, grepping for para or virt doesn't seem to find anything so I'm at a loss | 09:26 |
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| Enverex | Does module-assistant make a log anywhere? | 10:31 |
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| crimsun | yes | 10:39 |
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| crimsun | you might look in the usual place, /var/log/*/*modass* | 10:39 |
| Enverex | Already have, no luck | 10:41 |
| crimsun | did it fail or succeed? It definitely preserves logs if it failed. | 10:41 |
| Enverex | Failed | 10:41 |
| Enverex | No logs with module or modass in their name in /var/log | 10:44 |
| Enverex | (or deeper) | 10:44 |
| Enverex | Or just mod even | 10:45 |
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| rasher | Hey, what happened to my ttys? They're black, but I can login. Where do I look to figure this one out? | 11:06 |
| coNP | rasher: does "reset" help? | 11:07 |
| rasher | it would seem not | 11:08 |
| rasher | Nope. Tried it a couple of times to make sure I didn't typo it | 11:09 |
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| rasher | I'm certain that they're working, because I can see processes running when I check in X. The screen's just completely black. | 11:12 |
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| coNP | rasher: interesting | 11:15 |
| Enverex | No ideas where the file is then? | 11:16 |
| rasher | coNP: I'm thinking usplash might be the culprit. I'll try booting without splash | 11:18 |
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| rasher | coNP, oh nevermind >_< I'm a fool. Set a vga= line in grub that doesn't work | 11:20 |
| coNP | :) | 11:20 |
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| buz | does gutsy already have drivers for ipw 4965? | 11:59 |
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| HELLium | someone hlp me with gdm, after yestreday's restar, gdm start's for 1 sec, then cloes, and starts again with busy mouse cursor and default X background | 12:21 |
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| antisystem32 | hola | 12:39 |
| coNP | hi antisystem32 | 12:39 |
| antisystem32 | tranquilo | 12:45 |
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| Zorlin | Ooh. | 03:55 |
| Zorlin | Is it worth running Gutsy for now? | 03:55 |
| Zorlin | on a virtual machine or something? anything new? | 03:55 |
| coNP | Zorlin: it might prove interesting if you have some spare time | 03:56 |
| Zorlin | I'll take that under advisement | 03:57 |
| Zorlin | Where's the URL for the latest builds? | 03:57 |
| Zorlin | [iso form, preferably] | 03:57 |
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| Hobbsee | Zorlin: cdimage.ubuntu.com | 04:01 |
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| Megaqwerty | Hi, Just wanted to tell whomever this concerns that the Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 1 CD forgot to change the release name in the Firefox Homepage (This is a clean install). Nothing big, but I thought I would bring it to your attention, as it's a quick fix. | 04:52 |
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| DanaG | Oh hey, what's with the "Hide fsview from menu" patch? | 05:33 |
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| cbdaqb | hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in gutsy | 05:34 |
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| cbdaqb | hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in gutsy | 05:36 |
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| Hobbsee | !repeat | 05:40 |
| ubotu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | !weekend | 05:40 |
| ubotu | It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | !offtopic | 05:40 |
| ubotu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 05:40 |
| cbdaqb | hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in gutsy | 05:40 |
| Hobbsee | why dont you try it? | 05:40 |
| cbdaqb | i will im burning the disk right now | 05:41 |
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| cbdaqb | just wanted ask anybody who tried | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | see the note about the weekend. | 05:41 |
| Hobbsee | and the number of people in the channel | 05:41 |
| cbdaqb | yea | 05:41 |
| DanaG | s/no/know/ | 05:41 |
| DanaG | Oh, a note for burning CDs: burn at slow speeds for better usability. | 05:42 |
| cbdaqb | yes thank you the reason im really trying gutsy is because feisty dosnt have wi-fi support | 05:43 |
| cbdaqb | but the with the new bug free install of feisty ill try both | 05:44 |
| cbdaqb | danaG wats s/no/know mean? | 05:45 |
| Megaqwerty | I'm trying to find where it shows what projects are currently being worked on, the status of the projects being worked on, which are completed, etc. I just can't seem to remember the name. Does anyone know what it's called/it's url by chance? | 05:46 |
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| wamty | can anyone help me configure my wireless card | 05:46 |
| cbdaqb | (megaqwerty)https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | 05:47 |
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| cbdaqb | its at the top by the way | 05:48 |
| cbdaqb | under topic | 05:48 |
| Megaqwerty | cbdaqb: thanks, but I meant the specific features, not just deadlines. | 05:48 |
| cbdaqb | o ok | 05:49 |
| Megaqwerty | i.e. The status of the GTK X.Org configure program | 05:49 |
| cbdaqb | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411868 i dont no check out this page maybe | 05:49 |
| DanaG | Oh, s/x/y means search for x and replace with y. | 05:52 |
| cbdaqb | ok | 05:53 |
| cbdaqb | well the gutsy burn is almost done | 05:56 |
| Megaqwerty | cbdaqb: well, I found something closer to what I was looking for: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+roadmap | 05:58 |
| cbdaqb | nice | 06:00 |
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| cbdaqb | ok its done ill go try it now | 06:05 |
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| ioboss | hi.. | 06:10 |
| Megaqwerty | hi | 06:11 |
| ioboss | hi, i have upgraded to guitsy.. but now i can't switch to other consolle from alt F7 to other alt f1 etc etc | 06:11 |
| ioboss | witch packege i have to reinstall? | 06:11 |
| poningru | are you doing ctrl+alt+f1? | 06:11 |
| ioboss | yes.. if i do | 06:11 |
| Megaqwerty | Well, to be honest, it didn't work for me in feisty either, I had to be at the login prompt before it would let me into the console at ctrl+alt+f1 | 06:12 |
| ioboss | ctrl alt f1 the screen will be not leggible | 06:12 |
| ioboss | but don't crash | 06:12 |
| ioboss | i dont understande megaqwerty.... what does you have done? | 06:13 |
| ioboss | sorry for may bad english.. | 06:14 |
| Megaqwerty | If I understand your question, I log out, and at the log in screen I do Ctrl+Alt+F1. That drops me at the console. | 06:14 |
| Megaqwerty | it bypasses any other keyboard shortcuts that may be active, and blocking that key sequence. | 06:15 |
| Megaqwerty | *by blocking that key sequence. | 06:15 |
| Megaqwerty | blast, I had it right the first time I said it :) | 06:16 |
| ioboss | ok, i've understanded.. my problem is an other.. consolle switched but the screen is not visible.. there more orizzontal stroke.. | 06:16 |
| ioboss | i don't understande what packege of guisty have changed my consolle.. (i think) | 06:17 |
| Megaqwerty | Oh, so you just can't read the screen at tty1? | 06:17 |
| ioboss | yes | 06:17 |
| ioboss | i'va also changed resolution by /boot/grub/menu.lst | 06:17 |
| ioboss | but i can't see any... | 06:17 |
| Megaqwerty | Well, Did you install any proprietary graphics drivers? | 06:17 |
| ioboss | no.. | 06:18 |
| ioboss | my driver is ati | 06:18 |
| ioboss | i have to install restricted driver? i hope to don't use that.. | 06:19 |
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| buz | ioboss: for what card | 06:19 |
| Megaqwerty | Oh, no. I was thinking that the restricted driver would be the problem, not the solution. ;) | 06:20 |
| ioboss | ati x 300 | 06:20 |
| buz | should work with ati driver | 06:20 |
| buz | unless its an integrated thingy | 06:20 |
| ioboss | the consolle graphics work very well.. i have also compiz running | 06:20 |
| buz | if you have compiz running chances are the driver works ;) | 06:21 |
| ioboss | it's as the refresh of text consolle works bad | 06:21 |
| Megaqwerty | Okay, now I'm confused. | 06:21 |
| Megaqwerty | You can see the console at tty1? | 06:21 |
| Megaqwerty | it's not a random mess? | 06:21 |
| ioboss | i can switch to tty1 but can't read any, but i can switch after to tty7 | 06:22 |
| ioboss | i can't see if there's any messenge | 06:22 |
| ioboss | but pc don't crash | 06:22 |
| Megaqwerty | what exactly is it you see when you switch to tty1? | 06:23 |
| ioboss | buz: why i have to change driver? i use aixgl | 06:23 |
| buz | dont change the driver | 06:23 |
| DanaG | For me, the TTYs are entirely BLANK unless I boot without vga=anything. | 06:23 |
| buz | not sure whats going on with your console really | 06:23 |
| buz | maybe framebuffer console or something like that | 06:24 |
| ioboss | i see with orizzontal stroke.. | 06:24 |
| ioboss | i use vga=795 | 06:24 |
| ioboss | i probe vga 791 but the problem are still | 06:24 |
| DanaG | Try without vga=anything. | 06:24 |
| ioboss | ok.. sorry for my english.. stroke = line | 06:25 |
| ioboss | i try... see you soon | 06:26 |
| Megaqwerty | Good Luck | 06:26 |
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| cbdaqb | hi again | 06:28 |
| Megaqwerty | How did it go? | 06:28 |
| cbdaqb | so far not | 06:29 |
| cbdaqb | good | 06:29 |
| cbdaqb | at all | 06:29 |
| cbdaqb | its stuck in the kboot prompt | 06:29 |
| cbdaqb | and its been saying booting syste... for like 10 min now | 06:29 |
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| cbdaqb | im pretty sure its frozen | 06:31 |
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| ioboss | ok.. you have reason,.. without vga=xxx it wotks fine.. | 06:32 |
| ioboss | why now i cant set vga=795? | 06:32 |
| ioboss | i have no idea | 06:32 |
| cbdaqb | i better report my bug to launchpad | 06:32 |
| ioboss | i use it from one years but i'm not so expert to understande.. | 06:34 |
| ioboss | ok.. thanks anywhere.. | 06:36 |
| ioboss | bye | 06:36 |
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| khermans | anyone noticing weirdness with Gutsy? | 07:01 |
| khermans | like windowing buttons being all over the place? | 07:01 |
| khermans | no icons in Gnome menus | 07:02 |
| khermans | i did a rm -rf ~/.gnome* ~/.gconf* | 07:02 |
| khermans | even adding a new user with new desktop has nasty gnome look and fonts are munged too | 07:02 |
| DanaG | Gnome-session sometimes segfaults for me. | 07:03 |
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| phixxor | hey y'alls | 07:10 |
| phixxor | I want to put gutsy on a third partition | 07:10 |
| phixxor | but I don't know how to tell it not to mess up grub for the rest of the computer | 07:10 |
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| DanaG | If you make /boot separate, you can share it. | 07:14 |
| phixxor | ok, so 1. Make a boot partition, 2. Figure out how to share it. | 07:15 |
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| DanaG | That's something you'd also be able to ask about in the #ubuntu (not +1) channel. | 07:19 |
| DanaG | er, too late, whatever/ | 07:20 |
| DanaG | . | 07:20 |
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| khermans | one useful tip, dont use mirrors when using ubuntu+1 | 07:30 |
| khermans | they are not likely in sync and package dependency issues are common | 07:31 |
| DanaG | Or keep mirrors AND the official source in sources.list. | 07:32 |
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| DanaG | Put the faster-but-often-obsolete mirrors above the official mirrors, so they'll be preferred. | 07:32 |
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| Hobbsee | DanaG: that's what i do :) | 07:39 |
| DanaG | For example, mirrors.kernel.org | 07:40 |
| DanaG | and san1.csc.calpoly.edu/ubuntu | 07:40 |
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| phixnay | Ok, how do you report a bug if it prevents gusty from being installed | 09:43 |
| phixnay | the spash screen of the cd works, but about a minute into "Start or install ubuntu" I get ata errors | 09:44 |
| phixnay | (also happened with the feisty boot cd, but not with edgy) I think it has to do to the move to SCSI drivers | 09:44 |
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| DanaG | Did you burn the disk at a slow speed? | 09:48 |
| DanaG | I've always found that to help. | 09:48 |
| DanaG | Argh, d*** SSH client. | 09:51 |
| DanaG | When the server or connection drops me, the client blocks, rather than timing out. | 09:52 |
| DanaG | I have to kill (I don't remember if I need -9) it. | 09:52 |
| phixnay | DanaG: 4x | 09:54 |
| phixnay | it was an rw | 09:55 |
| phixnay | but the disk is read at first, it fails when the linux loads | 09:55 |
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| Enverex | Hrm HAL doesn't seem to be set up too well. I plugged in my 2GB USB drive, Gnome shows it as an iPod on my desktop and "Music Player" opened :/ | 10:31 |
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| DanaG | When I put my iAudio6 in MTP mode, usb-storage still claims it. | 10:35 |
| DanaG | I'll file a bug on it... next weekend. Busy with homework this weekend. | 10:35 |
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