[12:06] <btm_> it brings up the interfaces, sleeps briefly, then checks for the link. it's missing my interfaces because often the autonegotiation isn't complete before ethtool-lite runs.
[12:08] <btm_> sometimes it takes up to five seconds for link though, and that's with spanning-tree disabled. Far too long to wait per interface. I think udev rules and forcing the interface will have to do.
[12:16] <cjwatson> oh, interesting
[12:16] <cjwatson> yes, it does usleep(25)
[12:16] <cjwatson> 250
[12:16] <cjwatson> I wonder if there's a better event-driven way to do that ...
[12:50] <cjwatson> evand: feel like preparing the next gutsy upload when you're ready?
[12:52] <evand> cjwatson: I don't follow.  Upload of what, ubiquity?
[12:52] <cjwatson> evand: procedure (assuming you're already ./autogen.sh'ed) is 'debian/rules update', check and commit result of that, 'dch -r' but don't commit yet, 'debuild -S', debdiff resulting source package against previous one in the archive and check that it's all OK; if it is, 'debcommit --release', sign, upload
[12:52] <cjwatson> right
[12:53] <cjwatson> for the time being "sign, upload" => "send source package to me for sponsorship"
[12:54] <cjwatson> it's a bit of extra work for me in the short term, but I think it'd be good if you took on preparing uploads early
[12:54] <evand> gotcha.  Did you want to get any more changes in there before I attempted this?
[12:54] <evand> indeed
[12:54] <cjwatson> I don't have anything pending, but there's no rush either
[12:54] <CIA-19> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2087 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py): merge from Evan
[12:54] <cjwatson> just whenever it's convenient
[12:55] <evand> ok, great.  I'll let you know how it goes then.
[12:55] <cjwatson> cool
[12:55] <cjwatson> oh, and after upload, bump version in configure.ac, ./autogen.sh, commit
[12:55] <cjwatson> I always forget that bit
[12:56] <cjwatson> evand: remind me to review those d-i merges you were doing next week, too
[12:56] <evand> will do'
[01:00] <btm_> the ethtool problem is due to the tg3 driver being lame. works fine on e100 (link status can be determined while interface is down)
[04:02] <brokendrone> I have some questions about ubuntu