Daviey | yep | 12:27 |
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Daviey | 6 reboot, 0 off and 1 single user mode (borked mode :) | 12:27 |
Daviey | That relies on there already being a script called mythtv-backend in init.d | 12:28 |
superm1_ | well it will be there | 12:28 |
superm1_ | after mythtv-backend is installed | 12:28 |
Daviey | :) | 12:28 |
superm1_ | so if this is added to a postinst script | 12:28 |
superm1_ | for mythbuntu-live | 12:28 |
superm1_ | eventually | 12:28 |
superm1_ | but in the interim is put in the build script | 12:29 |
superm1_ | and then during postrm script they can all be reactivated | 12:29 |
Daviey | Uninstall symlinks: update-rc.d -f mythtv-backend remove | 12:29 |
superm1_ | thats all it takes/ | 12:29 |
Daviey | :) | 12:30 |
Daviey | easy as pi | 12:30 |
Daviey | I had a real headache working out how to do when i wanted my tvon/tvoff python script to fire | 12:30 |
superm1_ | could you add that to the build script then and commit it ? | 12:30 |
superm1_ | I'm not going to be home for a few hrs :) | 12:31 |
superm1_ | just at some step later than the mythv-backend install, but before the second chroot | 12:31 |
Daviey | Hopefully i won't bork it :) | 12:31 |
Daviey | By end of Step N: eveything is installed? | 12:33 |
Daviey | #Step N: Preinstall all other options | 12:33 |
Daviey | apt-get -y install -o Acquire::Retries=$APT_RETRIES ubuntu-mythtv-frontend mythtv-backend-master lirc lirc-modules-source module-assistant mythweb openssh-server mythtv | 12:33 |
superm1_ | yes | 12:33 |
Daviey | #Step U: Remove our fake scripts | 12:34 |
Daviey | That could become - fix scripts | 12:34 |
Daviey | Right before STEP 6 which is gen chroot iso script | 12:34 |
Daviey | laga: do you have a vanilla mythbuntu machine? | 12:36 |
Daviey | or the livecd handy? | 12:36 |
laga | no | 12:36 |
Daviey | boooo | 12:37 |
Daviey | better re-create my virtual machine | 12:37 |
laga | heh | 12:37 |
laga | get some snapshots next time :) | 12:37 |
Daviey | apache-perl isn't installed with mythweb? | 12:38 |
superm1_ | Daviey, its not? | 12:39 |
superm1_ | Daviey, that fix scripts section is quite urgent. It prevents pegasus from running everything we install in the chroot :) | 12:40 |
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DaveMorris | hey guys if you tried asking me something in the last 6 hours you'll have to ask me again, as I left myself signed on at work | 12:42 |
Daviey | superm1_: just about to commit | 12:42 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: you missed it all.. nevermind | 12:43 |
Daviey | it was great! | 12:43 |
superm1_ | great DaveMorris :) | 12:43 |
DaveMorris | what did I miss? | 12:43 |
superm1_ | great Daviey :) | 12:43 |
superm1_ | okie dokie, hopefully i be back later this evening. ignore superm1, he is a sign on from home that i forgot to sign off. i'll try to kick him but i think he autorejoins | 12:44 |
Daviey | superm1_: if apache2 is installed by default i'll need to deal with that aswell | 12:44 |
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Daviey | wb | 12:44 |
superm1_ | Daviey, it is installed by default | 12:45 |
Daviey | doh | 12:45 |
Daviey | so that's 4 services | 12:45 |
superm1_ | (because of mythweb) | 12:45 |
superm1_ | mythtv-backend mysql and apache2 | 12:45 |
superm1_ | thats 3 | 12:45 |
superm1_ | whats the fourth? | 12:45 |
Daviey | plus apache-perl | 12:45 |
superm1_ | thats a service? | 12:45 |
Daviey | seems so | 12:45 |
DaveMorris | its an apache module | 12:45 |
superm1_ | sure? | 12:45 |
superm1_ | does it have an init script? | 12:46 |
Daviey | " Start the apache-perl HTTP server." | 12:46 |
Daviey | deffo has an init script | 12:46 |
superm1_ | hm i dont think i've ever seen it | 12:46 |
DaveMorris | wtf | 12:46 |
Daviey | This isn't a clean machine i might add.. | 12:46 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: does your's not have it? | 12:46 |
DaveMorris | I'm not running perl | 12:47 |
superm1_ | let me double check mythweb depends | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | but let me check | 12:47 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: what does "find /etc/rc* | grep apache" return for you | 12:47 |
Daviey | on backend | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc0.d/K91apache2 | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc1.d/K91apache2 | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2 | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc3.d/S91apache2 | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc4.d/S91apache2 | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc5.d/S91apache2 | 12:47 |
DaveMorris | /etc/rc6.d/K91apache2 | 12:48 |
Daviey | apache-perl not a requirment then :) | 12:48 |
Daviey | superm1: having personality issues? | 12:48 |
laga | mother/gf making up his quit messages? | 12:48 |
Daviey | laga: don't assume - could be bf :) | 12:49 |
laga | Daviey: well, if you start being PC, you might as well include those people with even more interesting preferences | 12:50 |
Daviey | they can dpkg --reconfigure | 12:51 |
laga | true. some religious groups use dpkg--reocnfigure --force | 12:51 |
Daviey | Arg! why is bzr using VIM rather than nano | 12:51 |
Daviey | it was using nano before re-install >:( | 12:52 |
laga | Daviey: export EDITOR=`which nano` ? | 12:53 |
Daviey | where's that then | 12:53 |
DaveMorris | Daviey: because vim is better | 12:53 |
Daviey | hahahah | 12:54 |
DaveMorris | Daviey: you giving a lightling talk at LRL about mythbuntu ? | 12:54 |
Daviey | heh - no | 12:54 |
Daviey | Juski is doing one on mythtv | 12:54 |
Daviey | And has included us on his handout | 12:54 |
DaveMorris | cool | 12:55 |
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Daviey | methinks DaveMorris is keen | 12:55 |
DaveMorris | I can get them printed at the uni you see | 12:55 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: awesome - fancy getting me some ubuntu business cards :) | 12:56 |
Daviey | with my pgp key on | 12:56 |
DaveMorris | I'll find out the price | 12:56 |
Daviey | superm1: ping | 01:09 |
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Daviey | DaveMorris: you can still just exec mythbuntu_install.sh with no params? | 01:14 |
DaveMorris | yes | 01:15 |
DaveMorris | btw can you check if suprm1 has changed the proxy setting to lowercase? | 01:16 |
Daviey | will do | 01:16 |
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Daviey | #Proxy if needed | 01:17 |
Daviey | if [ -z "$HTTP_PROXY" ] ; then HTTP_PROXY=http://proxy.url | 01:17 |
Daviey | fi | 01:17 |
Daviey | is that ok? | 01:17 |
DaveMorris | ok it all needs to be lowercase, and can you make it default to nothing | 01:17 |
Daviey | #Proxy if needed | 01:18 |
Daviey | if [ -z "$http_proxy" ] ; then http_proxy="" | 01:18 |
Daviey | fi | 01:18 |
Daviey | is that ok? | 01:19 |
DaveMorris | yep | 01:19 |
DaveMorris | thanks | 01:19 |
Daviey | commiting | 01:19 |
DaveMorris | http://www.logiprint.co.uk/index.php?c=visitenkarten_4w&bereich=vk&cardtype=4w&provid=gen_business_cards is what you want daviey, ubuntu 1 side and mythbuntu the other | 01:19 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: check the changelog | 01:20 |
DaveMorris | link for the lazy | 01:20 |
Daviey | penny for the guy | 01:20 |
Daviey | Not too bad prices on them cards | 01:21 |
Daviey | i looked briefly ad thought naa | 01:21 |
DaveMorris | you should def get doubled sided ones though | 01:21 |
Daviey | https://code.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu | 01:21 |
DaveMorris | thanks | 01:21 |
Daviey | :) | 01:22 |
Daviey | umount: /tmp/mythbuntu_iso/proc: not mounted | 01:23 |
Daviey | umount: /tmp/mythbuntu_iso/sys: not mounted | 01:23 |
Daviey | umount: /tmp/mythbuntu_iso/dev/pts: not found | 01:23 |
Daviey | umount: /tmp/mythbuntu_iso/var/cache/apt/archives: not mounted | 01:23 |
Daviey | find: /tmp/mythbuntu_iso/lib/modules/: No such file or directory | 01:23 |
Daviey | Usage: umount [-hV] umount -a [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] [-t vfstypes] [-O opts] umount [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] special | node... | 01:23 |
Daviey | Starting cleanup for Mythbuntu build, Fri Jun 8 18:23:21 CDT 2007 | 01:23 |
Daviey | Clean eh? | 01:23 |
DaveMorris | meh | 01:24 |
Daviey | might clean that up next update | 01:24 |
Daviey | wow imbrandon's local mirror is fast | 01:24 |
Daviey | I'm doing another build now.. wonder how it will turn out | 01:25 |
Daviey | It's a real nusiance that you can't just patch the iso :D | 01:25 |
DaveMorris | I'll be doing some run throught installs soon to help sort out this testing framework for others to follwo | 01:25 |
Daviey | that would be great | 01:26 |
Daviey | i really want to set up an RSS feed of ISO's so we can autograb them when built | 01:26 |
DaveMorris | I think we need to lower the barrier to entry for the others | 01:26 |
Daviey | would make hometesting much easier | 01:26 |
DaveMorris | suprem1 was gonna mae the new versions apt-get upgrade once booted before installing | 01:27 |
Daviey | yeah.. good for beta. | 01:27 |
Daviey | but bad for bugtraqing tho | 01:27 |
Daviey | 'What version are you running' "Depends what day you ran it :) | 01:27 |
DaveMorris | not really, because the bugs will either be against the iso, in which case a new iso is released, or they are against the packages installed | 01:28 |
Daviey | true.. | 01:28 |
Daviey | looking at the build.. we've still got loada stuff that could be stripped out | 01:29 |
Daviey | Any idea what the recent kernel security updates are about? | 01:30 |
Daviey | Changelog not propogated yet, my end | 01:30 |
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keescook | Daviey: the USN covers it: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-470-1 | 01:39 |
Daviey | woo | 01:51 |
Daviey | keescook: ahh.. somebody in my LoCo had this bug | 01:52 |
Daviey | tried to fix it for them... but had no idea why it wasn't working | 01:53 |
keescook | Daviey: yeah, there are a bunch of weird things involved with that kernel update. Hopefully this will make things better. | 01:53 |
rogue780|mythsrv | has mythdvd improved any since .19? | 01:58 |
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Daviey | rogue780|mythsrv: not sure i can remember 0.19 :) | 02:03 |
Daviey | rogue780|mythsrv: do you use the Internal player or xine/mplayer? | 02:03 |
Daviey | rogue780|mythsrv: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.20#MythDVD | 02:04 |
rogue780|mythsrv | don't use anything atm....hell I don't even have an optical drive in my frontend | 02:05 |
rogue780|mythsrv | curious is I should try to get it running, or if it'd be a waste of time | 02:05 |
Daviey | IMO the Internal player has improved loads. Previously i had to use xine.. prefer standard interface of Internal player | 02:05 |
Daviey | rogue780|mythsrv: Do you have a need for DVD's? If so then yes :) | 02:06 |
rogue780|mythsrv | I have an antiquated dvd player that I'm using now....but I'm a fan of centralization....the fewer things I've got to have plugged in the better in my book | 02:06 |
Daviey | On the few occasions i have used mythdvd it has done it's job. But i prefer ripping and using mythvideo | 02:07 |
Daviey | mythdvd doesn't save paused/exit location like mythvideo AFAIK | 02:07 |
rogue780|mythsrv | argh...now I've got to learn how to make cookies/sessions (other topic....my $5M idea...) | 02:08 |
rogue780|mythsrv | unfortunately ripping and such isn't very wife-friendly atm | 02:08 |
rogue780|mythsrv | I'm glad PHP is proving easy to learn. | 02:09 |
rogue780|mythsrv | Daviey, have you seen the new gtk theme that superm1 put together? | 02:15 |
Daviey | not yet | 02:15 |
rogue780|mythsrv | http://www.mythbuntu.org/~supermario/mythbuntu/new_gtk_theme.png | 02:15 |
Daviey | noticed it was submitted to revu tho | 02:15 |
Daviey | oww plush | 02:15 |
rogue780|mythsrv | is that...good? | 02:15 |
Daviey | yes | 02:16 |
rogue780|mythsrv | sweet. | 02:17 |
rogue780|mythsrv | I'm working on a GDM theme currently. I'm going to try to mirror what he did with the look | 02:17 |
Daviey | sounds great | 02:17 |
Daviey | http://www.mythbuntu.org/files/iso/ fair few iso's there now eh? | 02:17 |
rogue780|mythsrv | indeed | 02:20 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: ping | 02:28 |
OpenMediaSupport | Has a decision been made on the default desktop manager for the frontend? Like the way the normal MythTV install on feisty defaults to OpenBox | 02:29 |
Daviey | we're pretty confident on using openbox. why do you ask? | 02:29 |
OpenMediaSupport | http://www.mypvr.co.nz | 02:29 |
OpenMediaSupport | We are considering GPL ing all of our NZ specific stuff and additing it into Mythbuntu | 02:30 |
OpenMediaSupport | Plus also supporting Mythdora | 02:30 |
Daviey | nice.. | 02:30 |
Daviey | What goodies do you have? | 02:30 |
OpenMediaSupport | We currently use fluxbox, but I like the look of OpenBox | 02:30 |
OpenMediaSupport | We can autoconfigure and update manage all of the NZ specific stuff - IR Blasters for SkyTV. Freeview + Sky + Terrestrial EPG feeds. MHEG-5 support for NZ freeview digital | 02:31 |
Daviey | I initially wanted fluxbox or ratpoision, but was quickly convinced | 02:32 |
OpenMediaSupport | Plus leverage all of our testing | 02:32 |
Daviey | great! | 02:32 |
Daviey | How are you autoconfiguring IR blasters? | 02:32 |
OpenMediaSupport | Yeah we are currently based on Knoppmyth + fluxbox but with an enhanced MythTV 0.20-fixes build | 02:32 |
OpenMediaSupport | There are a couple of SkyTV specific IR codes, and then dpkg-reconfigure lets you perform the selection. | 02:33 |
OpenMediaSupport | Plus a wrapper script to control the firing of the blaster that appears to work on all NZ STBs | 02:33 |
Daviey | Is that based on end user shell script or GTK chooser? | 02:33 |
OpenMediaSupport | Normal dpkg configuration stuff - modifies lines in /etc/default/irblaster | 02:34 |
OpenMediaSupport | Should work with gui or command line | 02:34 |
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OpenMediaSupport | We have also been backporting bit of MythTV trunk - There are quite a few DVB related niggles in 0.20-fixes that my customers have shown up. | 02:35 |
Daviey | OpenMediaSupport: so you've had a chance to try the alpha iso? | 02:35 |
OpenMediaSupport | Not yet.. NZ Broadband is interestingly constrained :( | 02:35 |
OpenMediaSupport | Plus dealing with some customer issues out of our trac queue. | 02:35 |
Daviey | OK. tbh we are gobsmacked how many people have downloaded the _ALPHA_ iso | 02:36 |
OpenMediaSupport | I have a prototypr myPVR build based on Feisty, and only minor tweaks were required to port over our existing mypvr-* support packages | 02:36 |
Daviey | and we haven't had that many bug reports | 02:36 |
Daviey | so that's a positive thing | 02:36 |
OpenMediaSupport | Also I manage mythtv.co.nz. Just working on a news release on Mythbuntu in the background. | 02:36 |
Daviey | OpenMediaSupport: that's great - but make sure you have a big fat warning that it is still alpha | 02:37 |
OpenMediaSupport | Whats the best way (other than grabbing the ISO) to really get involved here. | 02:37 |
Daviey | - we didn't even expect it do get onto digg :s | 02:37 |
OpenMediaSupport | :) | 02:37 |
Daviey | OpenMediaSupport: Hmm.. well all out source-code is on launchpad bazar branch | 02:38 |
OpenMediaSupport | Not surprised. Got seriously slashdotted when we lauched myPVR 1.0. NZ sites aren't usually geared up for that level of hits | 02:38 |
OpenMediaSupport | Yeah i'm on Launchpad. Need to play with bazar. | 02:40 |
Daviey | Well at one point our server was chucking out 80MB/s! Site pratically died | 02:40 |
OpenMediaSupport | Nice.. | 02:40 |
Daviey | OpenMediaSupport: We'll have to have a chat with the other guys; not sure how we can implement country specific options at this stage | 02:40 |
OpenMediaSupport | A lot of our testing will help all users, especially some of the additional backports from SVN trunk | 02:40 |
Daviey | But i think it's certainly something we would find useful to add. Do you have a download / repo we can take a look at? | 02:40 |
OpenMediaSupport | Plus the IRBlaster framework could easily be extended. | 02:40 |
Daviey | I think the next big thing we want to add is lirc support out of box. Currently trying to work out how best to that. | 02:44 |
Daviey | OpenMediaSupport: Can i ask, how many mythboxes you sell in NZ? | 02:44 |
Daviey | Am i right in saying your UTC+12 ? | 02:44 |
OpenMediaSupport | Yup At the moment. Where are youi? | 02:44 |
Daviey | UK | 02:45 |
Daviey | I'm UTC+1 - another is UTC-6 US | 02:45 |
Daviey | Communications can be fun :) | 02:45 |
OpenMediaSupport | No worries i'm originally from Liverpool | 02:45 |
OpenMediaSupport | Its great as we can leverage all of the UK and European DVB work as the DVB network is only just starting here. | 02:46 |
Daviey | pudlion eh? | 02:46 |
Daviey | I really like some of your cases | 02:46 |
Daviey | I've never seen the 180 before; who makes that? | 02:47 |
OpenMediaSupport | NMedia. | 02:47 |
OpenMediaSupport | The Asus M2NPV-VM boards rock. Feisty loves them :) | 02:47 |
Daviey | :) | 02:48 |
OpenMediaSupport | We don't have DVB-T here yet - http://www.mypvr.co.nz/mypvr/myPVR%20FreeView.html, so we have to support DVB-S cards, Sky NZ STBs and analogue | 02:48 |
Daviey | If you can pop back in about 3-5 hours, 'superm1' would like to talk to you - i'm sure | 02:48 |
OpenMediaSupport | I'll be here all day (off and on) | 02:49 |
Daviey | Anyway, i must go to bed. Nice speaking to you | 02:49 |
OpenMediaSupport | Catch you round. | 02:50 |
rogue780|mythsrv | OpenMediaSupport, that's pretty nice. I've been considering setting up a similar enterprise here in America | 02:55 |
rogue780|mythsrv | OpenMediaSupport, what kind of remotes do you provide with myPVR? | 02:56 |
OpenMediaSupport | We use standard Hauppauge MCE compatible remotes at present as they have really nice hot keys that we auto map to the correct functions | 03:00 |
OpenMediaSupport | http://openmedia.co.nz/openmedia/content/view/27/59/ | 03:00 |
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jose | Excuse me - can anyone help me with getting video to display properly on nvidia tv-out? | 05:22 |
OpenMediaSupport | What sort of nvidia card have you got, and what typ of TV-out do you want to use? | 05:33 |
jose | hmm | 05:33 |
jose | The card's an... 8800 GT, I think | 05:34 |
jose | And - well, the tv-out is S-video, NTSC | 05:34 |
jose | It's already working, I think | 05:34 |
jose | I can see a black screen, with my mouse cursor becoming a big X when it's over the TV desktop | 05:35 |
jose | But my problem lies in displaying much of anything on it | 05:35 |
jose | I mainly want to display video on it, figuring I could run Totem/Mplayer with a "-displa 1" parameter | 05:35 |
jose | But - no dice. | 05:35 |
jose | err - "-display = 1" | 05:36 |
jose | I mean | 05:36 |
jose | But yeah - any idea how to get it to play video? | 05:37 |
OpenMediaSupport | So you are running dual head then? | 05:41 |
jose | Yes | 05:41 |
jose | Though I'm not running cinerama or anything | 05:42 |
jose | Just two separate desktops | 05:42 |
jose | With the secondary desktop being nothing more than a blank screen | 05:42 |
jose | So all I need is to be able to run a command from display 0 that runs totem/mplayer on display 1 | 05:43 |
jose | err | 05:47 |
jose | I should have probably stated "black screen" instead of "blank" | 05:47 |
jose | Since it IS working - it's just black, with no desktop or icons or anything. | 05:48 |
OpenMediaSupport | export DISPLAY=:1.0 | 05:54 |
OpenMediaSupport | mplayer videofile | 05:54 |
jose | hmm | 05:56 |
jose | doesn't work, I'm afraid | 05:56 |
jose | still displays nothing, save for my mouse cursor | 05:57 |
jose | Among its many error messages, mplayer displays: | 05:57 |
jose | [MGA] Couldn't open: /dev/mga_vid | 05:58 |
jose | open: No such file or directory | 05:58 |
jose | [MGA] Couldn't open: /dev/mga_vid | 05:58 |
jose | [VO_TDFXFB] Can't open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory. | 05:58 |
jose | [VO_3DFX] Unable to open /dev/3dfx. | 05:58 |
jose | vo: couldn't open the X11 display (:1.0)! | 05:58 |
jose | vo: couldn't open the X11 display (:1.0)! | 05:58 |
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superm1 | Daviey, did you push your commit? | 06:12 |
OpenMediaSupport | Think he has gone to bed. | 06:30 |
OpenMediaSupport | superm1 - Daviey said to talk to you about getting more involved. We have been producing a MythTV PVR here in nz - http://www.mypvr.co.nz | 06:31 |
OpenMediaSupport | We can definately help with a lot of testing, plus we have a lot of experience with lirc and irblasters etc. | 06:31 |
superm1 | OpenMediaSupport, i'll speak in a few min. i'll brb | 06:33 |
superm1 | :) | 06:33 |
OpenMediaSupport | Also put up a posting at http://www.mythtv.co.nz/mythtv/ | 06:33 |
OpenMediaSupport | jose - Sorry I've never tried to debug that sort of dual head environment before. Is it started as a seperate X session? I'd expect it to be :1.0 | 06:35 |
jose | hmm | 06:35 |
jose | Any idea how I'd be able to tell? | 06:35 |
jose | oh riight | 06:35 |
OpenMediaSupport | I'm assuming there is no window manager running? | 06:35 |
jose | 'cause I can't drag windows to and fro | 06:35 |
jose | Not on the TV, right | 06:36 |
OpenMediaSupport | Ok | 06:36 |
OpenMediaSupport | export DISPLAY=:1.0; xterm | 06:36 |
jose | xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1.0 | 06:36 |
OpenMediaSupport | Hmmm. | 06:37 |
OpenMediaSupport | ls -l /var/log/X* | 06:37 |
jose | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28239 2007-06-08 19:17 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 06:38 |
jose | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28481 2007-06-08 19:15 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old | 06:38 |
OpenMediaSupport | Ok so you are running a single X instance | 06:39 |
jose | hmm | 06:39 |
OpenMediaSupport | export DISPLAY=:0.1; xterm | 06:39 |
jose | hmm | 06:40 |
jose | Just hangs there | 06:40 |
OpenMediaSupport | Nothing on either screen then? | 06:40 |
OpenMediaSupport | Ok on your main screen start nvidia-settings and see what it tells you about your layout | 06:41 |
jose | ok | 06:41 |
jose | odd | 06:42 |
jose | won't start.. | 06:42 |
jose | ah, there we go | 06:42 |
OpenMediaSupport | wrong DISPLAY ;) | 06:42 |
jose | it tells me there's both an xscreen 0 and an xscreen 1 | 06:42 |
OpenMediaSupport | Hmm so it should be :0.1 | 06:43 |
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jose | hmm | 06:44 |
jose | running that command, though | 06:44 |
jose | it just... kinda hangs | 06:45 |
OpenMedia_Steve | which one nvidia-settings or xterm? | 06:45 |
jose | xterm | 06:46 |
superm1 | hi OpenMedia_Steve | 06:46 |
superm1 | so you guys are selling presold boxes I take it? | 06:46 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Pre loaded - fully configured and supported. | 06:46 |
superm1 | ah | 06:47 |
jose | Oh! | 06:47 |
OpenMedia_Steve | We were based off Knoppmyth originally, but I have a development build using Feisty | 06:47 |
jose | THAT'S why your nick sounds so familiar! | 06:47 |
superm1 | and how is it working for you thus far? | 06:47 |
OpenMedia_Steve | We have a support layer to do a lot of the configuration smarts for NZ. | 06:47 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Market here just isn't ready or big enough really. Feedback is excellent and good referals. We also have had good reviews off the local press. | 06:48 |
superm1 | very good. i've heard a lot of NZ stuff can be messy | 06:48 |
OpenMedia_Steve | There isn't an official or unofficial EPG source. | 06:48 |
superm1 | so how do you guys handle guide data then? | 06:48 |
OpenMedia_Steve | We take care of all of the channel setup, and can support Sky TV NZ STBs. | 06:48 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Guide data can be grabbed off a number of web sources as well as EIT data off DVB-S | 06:49 |
superm1 | unfortunately only a few days off EIT I imagine though | 06:49 |
OpenMedia_Steve | http://www.mypvr.co.nz | 06:49 |
OpenMedia_Steve | 7 Days of EIT, plus we have an MHEG-5 guide here in NZ with 8 days. | 06:49 |
OpenMedia_Steve | We worked on the MythTV and RedButton support for the NZ MHEG platform - see http://mythtv.co.nz for details | 06:50 |
superm1 | I can't say i'm familiar with MHEG5 | 06:50 |
superm1 | ill have to take a look here | 06:50 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Its also used in the UK on DVB-T | 06:50 |
superm1 | So at this point your considering adapting ubuntu install of knoppmyth then? | 06:51 |
OpenMedia_Steve | We need to update from what is effectively a sarge based build to get all of the newer video drivers | 06:52 |
superm1 | (which ubuntu provides newer drivers) | 06:52 |
OpenMedia_Steve | We currently use a 2.6.15 kernel so we are stuck with an older ivtv driver and only some DVB drivers can be easily backported. | 06:53 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Our normal hardware is either A8N-VM CSM or M2MPV-VM from Asus and they rock when running Feisty. | 06:53 |
superm1 | I can see for a commercial venture would require a very stable kernel release | 06:53 |
jose | Hmm... sorry to keep on bothering | 06:55 |
OpenMedia_Steve | I know a lot of homebrew users who consider switching to myPVR because of the features we have as standard that they still haven't gotten running. | 06:55 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Jose - No worries.. Running out of ideas. | 06:55 |
jose | but I was wondering - do you think my xterm setup is just not right? | 06:55 |
OpenMedia_Steve | export DISPLAY=:0.0; xterm | 06:55 |
superm1 | jose, do you have gdm setup to not prevent X forwarding? | 06:55 |
superm1 | you wouldnt be able to do that if X forwarding is disabled | 06:56 |
jose | interesting | 06:56 |
jose | Steve, that last commands opened a terminal on my first desktop | 06:56 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Ok so xterm is working then | 06:56 |
jose | superml: How do I tell? | 06:56 |
superm1 | well if that worked, no need to worry | 06:56 |
jose | ok | 06:57 |
superm1 | attempt, DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm | 06:57 |
superm1 | to launch on the second display | 06:57 |
jose | without export? | 06:57 |
superm1 | you dont necessarily need it | 06:57 |
jose | ok | 06:57 |
superm1 | if you prefix the command that way | 06:57 |
jose | hmm | 06:58 |
jose | just hangs, as well | 06:58 |
superm1 | what sort of dual head setup is this? | 06:58 |
superm1 | nvidia? | 06:58 |
jose | yeah | 06:58 |
superm1 | twinview? | 06:58 |
superm1 | or seperate x screens | 06:58 |
jose | separate | 06:58 |
jose | My TV output | 06:59 |
jose | displays little more than a black background | 06:59 |
jose | and mouse cursor | 06:59 |
superm1 | jose, can you post your xorg.conf in a pastebin | 07:00 |
superm1 | !pastebin | 07:00 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 07:00 |
jose | ok | 07:00 |
superm1 | I want to double check how you have things setup | 07:00 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Gotta drop out for a couple of minutes. Testing some Wake to record stuff | 07:00 |
superm1 | Ok OpenMedia_Steve we'll speak some more in a few | 07:00 |
jose | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24805/ | 07:02 |
jose | thanks for taking over, superml | 07:02 |
jose | And thanks, Steve, for helping so far | 07:02 |
superm1 | ok the xorg.conf looks fairly clean | 07:06 |
superm1 | what window manager are you using? | 07:06 |
superm1 | and your not using compiz | 07:06 |
superm1 | or beryl are you? | 07:06 |
jose | ha | 07:06 |
jose | hahahaha | 07:06 |
jose | I think I AM using compiz | 07:07 |
superm1 | you are? | 07:07 |
jose | Was not aware that was a problem | 07:07 |
superm1 | thats likely exactly it | 07:07 |
superm1 | i ran into that myself | 07:07 |
superm1 | on an older setup | 07:07 |
jose | ouch | 07:07 |
jose | ok | 07:07 |
superm1 | that i used seperate x screens | 07:07 |
jose | lemme turn that off | 07:07 |
jose | ok yeah | 07:08 |
jose | DISPLAY=:0.1 xterm | 07:08 |
jose | works GREAT now | 07:08 |
superm1 | I looked for a workaround for that for ages | 07:09 |
superm1 | and the only possibility appears to be to use twinview | 07:10 |
jose | ok | 07:10 |
superm1 | which i wasn't interested in switching to | 07:10 |
jose | no big deal | 07:10 |
jose | I wasn't erally using compiz for anything | 07:10 |
jose | DISPLAY=:0.1 totem movie.avi --fullscreen | 07:11 |
jose | Seems THAT works GREAT | 07:11 |
jose | Many thanks for figuring that out. | 07:11 |
superm1 | Glad to be able to help :) | 07:13 |
jose | say | 07:13 |
jose | Do you know | 07:13 |
jose | If in Totem | 07:13 |
jose | That "nvidia tv-out" | 07:13 |
jose | even works? | 07:13 |
superm1 | I'm not sure. | 07:14 |
superm1 | haven't ever tried it | 07:14 |
jose | All I've read on the subject suggests it's just a placeholder | 07:14 |
superm1 | I always just launched totem as | 07:14 |
superm1 | DISPLAY=:0.1 totem %f | 07:14 |
superm1 | where %f is file | 07:14 |
jose | fair enough | 07:14 |
superm1 | which is easy enough to put in mythvideo | 07:14 |
jose | Really? | 07:15 |
jose | cool | 07:15 |
jose | say | 07:16 |
jose | %f | 07:16 |
jose | is that an argument that can be used in bash scripts? | 07:17 |
superm1 | in bash scripts you'd do it a little differently | 07:24 |
jose | ah ok | 07:24 |
superm1 | use "$@" | 07:24 |
superm1 | that passes arguments on | 07:24 |
jose | cool | 07:24 |
jose | WITH the quotes? | 07:24 |
superm1 | i used to do something like this: | 07:25 |
superm1 | let me put it on a pastebin | 07:25 |
jose | ok | 07:25 |
superm1 | http://pastebin.ca/552231 | 07:25 |
jose | hmm | 07:26 |
jose | what are the nvidia-settings lines for? | 07:26 |
superm1 | well that is something i used to do | 07:27 |
superm1 | because i didnt want opengl vsync on | 07:27 |
jose | ah | 07:27 |
jose | gotcha | 07:27 |
jose | sort of | 07:28 |
superm1 | so i would turn it off before starting xine | 07:28 |
superm1 | play the file | 07:28 |
superm1 | and then turn it on when closing it | 07:28 |
jose | cool | 07:28 |
superm1 | but you get the idea, that passes all the arguments of the script to xine | 07:28 |
superm1 | and launches it on :0.1 | 07:28 |
jose | eeexcellent | 07:29 |
superm1 | jose, if you can, keep track of things that you come across when getting things setup this way | 07:30 |
superm1 | i meant to document it when i did | 07:30 |
superm1 | but i didn't get around to it, so it will be good to have everything you run into down | 07:31 |
superm1 | it can be added to the wiki at | 07:31 |
superm1 | !mythtv | 07:31 |
ubotu | MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV | 07:31 |
jose | ah | 07:31 |
superm1 | i'm sure there are other people that will be able to benefit from this info as well | 07:31 |
jose | You're suggesting I document the command/issue down? | 07:31 |
superm1 | well everything related to getting a dual screen setup going | 07:32 |
superm1 | including mythtv/videos on the second screen | 07:32 |
jose | ok | 07:33 |
jose | hmm | 07:33 |
superm1 | if you can | 07:33 |
jose | gotta figure out where to put it | 07:34 |
jose | But ok | 07:34 |
jose | sounds like fun | 07:34 |
superm1 | well just for now take some notes down in a text file at least | 07:34 |
superm1 | one of us can help you format it | 07:34 |
superm1 | and get it on the page | 07:34 |
superm1 | the content is the more important part | 07:34 |
jose | aye | 07:34 |
jose | 'tis already written down | 07:34 |
jose | Alas, I won't be able to get any of this done today | 07:35 |
jose | But, I'll try to get to it | 07:35 |
jose | it's the least I can do, after all | 07:35 |
superm1 | no hurry | 07:35 |
jose | man | 07:36 |
jose | so good to be back in ubuntu, though | 07:36 |
jose | This video-playing, and utorrent, were my two biggest hurdles | 07:36 |
jose | But today, they have been conquered, and all is well | 07:36 |
superm1 | good good | 07:36 |
jose | say | 07:45 |
jose | one last question, if I may | 07:45 |
jose | Now that I have totem running on the other monitor | 07:45 |
jose | I know I can run it with command-line switches | 07:45 |
jose | and control almost everything from my first screen | 07:45 |
jose | Any idea if someone's already made a program to control Totem from another desktop? | 07:46 |
superm1 | lirc | 07:48 |
superm1 | if you use a remote | 07:48 |
jose | right | 07:50 |
jose | ah well | 07:50 |
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OpenMedia_Steve | Oh the joys of debugging ACPI Wake | 08:11 |
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OpenMedia_Steve | Sweet. Got ACPI Wake + MythWelcome working ;) | 09:05 |
superm1 | OpenMedia_Steve, :) | 09:16 |
superm1 | OpenMedia_Steve, were you basing from the wiki page? | 09:16 |
superm1 | that majoridiot wrote | 09:16 |
superm1 | ? | 09:16 |
superm1 | or another source | 09:16 |
superm1 | i know laga and someone else were working off that page | 09:16 |
OpenMedia_Steve | I used the Ubuntu Wiki and Myth Wiki as guides. Needed a couple of changes due to the Knoppmyth based environment vs Ubuntu. | 09:17 |
OpenMedia_Steve | I had already checked the ACPI Wake manually. | 09:17 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Just running a wake up and record now. Need to make sure it shuts down again and then wakes up for the following show an hour later. | 09:17 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Looking good though. Had some of my customers asking for this to save on their power bills. | 09:18 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Hopefully grumpy will have all of the zero ticks low power stuff ;) | 09:18 |
superm1 | on standalone single machine setups, yes it works wonders | 09:18 |
superm1 | if you have something more like a set of netboot frontends though, or anything distributed across a network for that matter, it can get messier | 09:19 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Thats what most of my install our. Hence the nice compact case with decent audio and video support. | 09:19 |
jose | hey guys | 09:19 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Problem is finding lightweight hw for frontends that is HD capable. | 09:19 |
jose | I thought I should tell you | 09:19 |
jose | That now, I got totem running on the tv - direct from a desktop shortcut, no less. | 09:20 |
jose | AND | 09:20 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Sweet. | 09:20 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Here comes the big one :) | 09:20 |
superm1 | Alright, so you wanted to do what possible to help us out. I guess my first question would then be what types of resources are you meaning? Helping with getting mythbuntu code together here, testing, documentation, support structure? | 09:20 |
jose | I have a little "Enqueue" script, with which to right-click on files | 09:20 |
jose | AND FINALLY | 09:21 |
jose | A separate panel, featuring next/last/seek/etc. buttons, all of which control the TV totem from my desktop. | 09:21 |
OpenMedia_Steve | superm1 - All of the above. I have test rigs I can run code on, Debugged a lot of lirc/irblaster stuff. Rework some of the myPVR docs to be generic, Plus NZ specific enhancements to simplify setup | 09:22 |
jose | And which, thanks to ubuntu's art team, look rather nifty. | 09:22 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Plus my experience with "consumers" which have very different requirements over normal Linux users. | 09:22 |
superm1 | jose, sounds like you have things working pretty well :) | 09:22 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Anyhow gotta bale | 09:22 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Dinner time. | 09:22 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Home made Pizza :) | 09:23 |
superm1 | OpenMedia_Steve, OK we'll chat more through the next few days then | 09:23 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Yeah. I'll try and remember to leave my IRC on from time to time ;) | 09:23 |
jose | superml: Aye. And all thanks to - well - to the exclusion of 3D-acceleration. | 09:23 |
superm1 | jose, 3D accel shouldn't be broken, just running compiz/beryl | 09:24 |
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superm1 | with this type of setup | 09:24 |
jose | Fair enough. | 09:24 |
superm1 | you can probably take it a step further if you really wanted to turn off compiz automatically when launching something on the tv | 09:28 |
superm1 | and then turn it back on afterward | 09:28 |
superm1 | but i'm not sure its worth the effort | 09:29 |
jose | hahaha | 09:47 |
jose | That... yeah | 09:47 |
jose | Would be a bit much. | 09:47 |
jose | Anyway - thanks again for all your help. | 09:47 |
jose | I must get to sleep. Take care. | 09:47 |
superm1 | night | 09:48 |
superm1 | Daviey, I finally figured out why your changes didn't show up in my 'bzr update' command | 09:53 |
superm1 | i had to do a merge | 09:53 |
superm1 | (for the first time, ever) | 09:53 |
superm1 | and it went surprisingly smooth | 09:53 |
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DaveMorris | Daviey: pong | 11:11 |
superm1 | oh man. i should get to bed if DaveMorris is already up :) | 11:12 |
superm1 | silly ubiquity..... | 11:12 |
DaveMorris | yeah | 11:13 |
DaveMorris | is 10am here :) | 11:13 |
superm1 | well i'm closer than before in killing this annoying DB bug at least.. | 11:14 |
DaveMorris | sounds good | 11:14 |
laga | re | 11:25 |
superm1 | morning laga | 11:26 |
laga | morning | 11:26 |
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superm1 | laga, sort out the mythweb fun? | 11:27 |
laga | superm1: not yet, was busy with RL yesterday. | 11:27 |
laga | superm1: you can't use my changes for 0.20 anyways :) | 11:28 |
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superm1 | laga, :(, dont think they will be portable | 11:30 |
laga | well | 11:34 |
laga | we should be able to use those regular expressions to modify the old .htaccess | 11:34 |
laga | but do we need a backport? i doubt it | 11:35 |
superm1 | well supporting it on the 0.20-fixes if its going in mythbuntu | 11:40 |
laga | hm | 11:41 |
laga | when does it have to be ready? | 11:41 |
superm1 | well get it working on trunk, and then we can worry about getting it on 0.20-fixes | 11:42 |
superm1 | i'll just leave the options disabled in the ubiquity gui until ready | 11:42 |
superm1 | woohoo. that was the first install that went through with my DB fix. it worked ! :) | 11:43 |
superm1 | i can kick off a build of these debs now, and then finally get to bed | 11:43 |
laga | ^what options? | 11:43 |
laga | shouldn't that be handled by the debconf frontend? | 11:43 |
superm1 | i was adding to the ubiquity installer | 11:44 |
superm1 | directly options to set the mythweb password | 11:45 |
superm1 | if you'd like to | 11:45 |
laga | doesn't ubiquity provide a debconf frontend? | 11:47 |
superm1 | well it does, but there has to be a gui side of things to it | 11:47 |
superm1 | i can just disable the gui until the packages reflect it | 11:47 |
superm1 | thats part of all this that i've been working on :) | 11:47 |
laga | care to explaihn to me how it works? does it use debconf at all or does it duplicatethe new mythweb.postinst changes? | 11:50 |
superm1 | laga, I've been trying to experiment directly calling the postinst changes | 11:54 |
superm1 | but haven't been able to | 11:54 |
superm1 | so i've been duplicating code to an extent | 11:55 |
laga | ew :( | 11:55 |
superm1 | but it needs to chroot to run the code | 11:55 |
superm1 | which becomes really messy | 11:55 |
superm1 | because env variables need to be escaped | 11:55 |
superm1 | and then perl code running in the chroot needs to be double escaped | 11:55 |
superm1 | and so do sed scripts | 11:55 |
superm1 | thats the biggest thing that was slowing down fixing this DB problem that I was working at | 11:56 |
laga | that sounds annoying :( | 11:56 |
superm1 | to say the least | 11:56 |
superm1 | if you pull in revision 49 | 11:56 |
superm1 | of the mythbuntu branch | 11:56 |
superm1 | you can see what finally was the working result | 11:57 |
laga | alright. does ubiquity just ask the same questions as in the debconf templates or does it actually modify the file system? | 11:57 |
superm1 | or browse it through the webif | 11:57 |
laga | superm1: i'll take a look | 11:57 |
superm1 | its ubiquity/src/ubiq*/d-i/source/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-apply | 11:57 |
superm1 | for the file | 11:57 |
superm1 | well thats all about how i want to handle it | 11:57 |
superm1 | i can pass the same questions | 11:57 |
superm1 | but how i interpret the answers needs to be manually taken care of | 11:58 |
superm1 | in that apply script | 11:58 |
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superm1 | Daviey, there appears to be more to this update-rc.d magic then you've put | 12:15 |
superm1 | I fixed mythbuntu-apply's other DB stuff, but this still fails | 12:15 |
superm1 | i think its just a matter of the word "defaults" after the update-rc.d mythtv-backend | 12:16 |
superm1 | etc | 12:16 |
superm1 | okay but its really past my bed time (by like 5.5 hours) | 12:18 |
superm1 | i'll speak more in the later AM | 12:18 |
laga | :) | 12:20 |
laga | i'll have read your code by then, i hope | 12:20 |
laga | gotta mow the lawn now | 12:21 |
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DaveMorris | would it be possible to password protect certain dir's for mythvideo ? | 01:40 |
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ubotu | New bug: #114529 in mythtv (multiverse) "MythTV does not detect all channels" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114529 | 05:41 |
Daviey | DaveMorris: password protct? | 05:43 |
Daviey | do you mean within the myth interface? | 05:43 |
Daviey | AIUI you can add passwords to certain files, but not folders | 05:43 |
DaveMorris | yeah, so you can put all your 18 rated video's in a dir, and protect that whole dir from your kids | 05:49 |
DaveMorris | I'm thinking along of it been sued in mythvideo | 05:49 |
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tgm4883_laptop | can anyone recommend me an IR receiver that is good for recording an lircd.conf file? | 09:33 |
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Daviey | tgm4883_laptop_: still looking? | 10:26 |
Daviey | What sort do you want? | 10:26 |
Daviey | Do you have a serial port on your frontend? | 10:26 |
tgm4883 | it's so i can record my remote | 10:27 |
tgm4883 | i have the usbmce2 remote and receiver on my frontend | 10:27 |
tgm4883 | but have problems recording the remote, superm1 suggested that the mceusb2 was not a good recorder | 10:27 |
tgm4883 | and that a serial solution is much better | 10:28 |
Daviey | tgm4883: i have no experience with the mceusb2; but suprised it won't allow recording | 10:29 |
tgm4883 | it allows it, just not very good at it | 10:29 |
Daviey | ah | 10:30 |
Daviey | trying to find a link, to the one i would recommend | 10:30 |
tgm4883 | it could also be the tv not liking the ir transmissions also, but i figure that this is probably the only way to test | 10:30 |
Daviey | tgm4883: your US? | 10:33 |
tgm4883_laptop_ | yep | 10:33 |
Daviey | $15 sound reasonable? | 10:33 |
tgm4883_laptop_ | sounds great | 10:34 |
Daviey | http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/?partType=section&partName=buy | 10:34 |
Daviey | he now uses plastic encolosure's - but here is a pic http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/mids/img_3101.jpg | 10:35 |
Daviey | It's not too difficult to build yourself; but it's a nightmare trying to work out if it's the hardware or software configs - when it doesn't work | 10:36 |
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laga | hi steve | 11:15 |
OpenMediaSupport | Hi. | 11:15 |
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OpenMedia_Steve | So is there details on a Mythbuntu apt repository that can be applied to Feisty? | 11:17 |
Daviey | OpenMedia_Steve: hey | 11:19 |
Daviey | http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds | 11:19 |
Daviey | That's a weekly build from 0.20-fixes svn tree | 11:19 |
Daviey | maybe not ideal for production tho :) | 11:19 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Thats why I have test rigs :) | 11:21 |
OpenMedia_Steve | I'm going to add some MythTV trac tickets today for some of the backports we use to see if I can get any of them into 0.20-fixes. It would greatly simplify things. | 11:21 |
DaveMorris | Daviey: do we have 2 versions of mythtv packages then, stable and bleeding ? | 11:22 |
Daviey | not at the moment | 11:23 |
Daviey | hmm | 11:23 |
OpenMedia_Steve | The really cool bit i'm waiting on is the multiple recordings per digital multiplex | 11:23 |
DaveMorris | coz I'd only wanna be pulling down the auto builds if I was hopping for it to fix a fault, or on a test machine | 11:24 |
DaveMorris | OpenMedia_Steve: when is the due to be completed ? | 11:24 |
Daviey | OpenMedia_Steve: I'm not certain that weekly builds are live yet. Better speak to superm1 | 11:25 |
Daviey | he was working on that | 11:25 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Look at http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/search?q=#3326 for details on the multiplex support | 11:27 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Or http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3326 if the other link doesn't work | 11:28 |
OpenMedia_Steve | Ok Just loaded a couple of backports into MythTV SVN for 0.20-fixes. One for NZ MHEG-5 support, and the other resolves a lot of jerky/skippy video issues on LiveTV. | 12:12 |
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