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| cheeseboy | hi | 01:33 |
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| cheeseboy | why cant i ping my server? | 01:33 |
| cheeseboy | but it can ping other pcs | 01:33 |
| cheeseboy | and other pcs can ping other pcs | 01:33 |
| cheeseboy | internet is working | 01:34 |
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| cheeseboy | anyone there | 03:22 |
| olem | yap | 03:37 |
| cheeseboy | cal u help | 03:38 |
| cheeseboy | can* | 03:38 |
| olem | beg you pardon? | 03:39 |
| olem | have you got any problem/issue? | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | <cheeseboy> why cant i ping my server? | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | <cheeseboy> but it can ping other pcs | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | <cheeseboy> and other pcs can ping other pcs | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | <cheeseboy> internet is working | 03:41 |
| olem | netmask issue? | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | how i check? | 03:41 |
| olem | I mean, perhaps you set a incorrect netmask value on your server, for example: | 03:41 |
| olem | . you're on (V)LAN /26 | 03:41 |
| olem | . you set a /24 netmask on your server | 03:41 |
| olem | . so your server can ping others | 03:41 |
| olem | . while other cannot | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | i dont rember setting that | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | ever | 03:41 |
| cheeseboy | put it can ping others | 03:41 |
| olem | see your network admin, he will probably help you better than I (I dunno you network plan) | 03:42 |
| cheeseboy | im network admin | 03:42 |
| olem | yes. you can if you've got a broader netmask (and are in the same wire) | 03:42 |
| olem | ah. | 03:42 |
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| olem | so you're sure about your netmask on your server? | 03:42 |
| cheeseboy | no | 03:42 |
| olem | I mean, sure to be the correct one? | 03:42 |
| cheeseboy | dunno how to check or change | 03:43 |
| olem | to check, see /etc/network/interfaces | 03:43 |
| olem | for example, a valid entry could be: | 03:44 |
| olem | iface eth0 inet static | 03:44 |
| olem | address 192.168.1.2 | 03:44 |
| olem | network 192.168.1.0 | 03:44 |
| olem | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 03:44 |
| olem | broadcast 192.168.1.255 | 03:44 |
| olem | gateway 192.168.100.1 | 03:44 |
| cheeseboy | eth1 is set | 03:44 |
| cheeseboy | but supposed to be eth0 | 03:44 |
| cheeseboy | olem so if i change to eth0 think thayll fix it? | 03:45 |
| olem | can you issue an 'sudo mii-tool' to see what iface is connected out there ? | 03:46 |
| cheeseboy | i usally dhclient eth0 to bring internet up | 03:46 |
| olem | can you copy/paste here your /etc/network/interfaces ? | 03:46 |
| cheeseboy | how? | 03:46 |
| cheeseboy | i have no x | 03:47 |
| olem | ah... then... manually copy past it :-) | 03:47 |
| olem | (albeith you have mouse support of course) | 03:47 |
| cheeseboy | X( | 03:47 |
| cheeseboy | ?? | 03:47 |
| olem | so, what you're /etc/network/interfaces tells us about eth0 and eth1 ? | 03:48 |
| cheeseboy | auto lo | 03:48 |
| cheeseboy | iface lo inet loopback | 03:48 |
| olem | ok - fine | 03:48 |
| olem | next | 03:48 |
| cheeseboy | that all u want? | 03:48 |
| olem | next : eth0 and eth1 | 03:49 |
| olem | lo is the loopback iface (lo0/127.0.0.1) | 03:49 |
| cheeseboy | iface eth0 inet static | 03:49 |
| cheeseboy | i just changed from eth1 | 03:49 |
| cheeseboy | adress 192.168.1.102 | 03:50 |
| cheeseboy | netmask 255.255.0 | 03:50 |
| cheeseboy | gateways wrong too | 03:50 |
| cheeseboy | h/o | 03:50 |
| cheeseboy | gateway 192.168.1.1 | 03:51 |
| cheeseboy | auto eth0 | 03:51 |
| cheeseboy | thats it | 03:51 |
| olem | ok. I see the following error: s/adress/address/ | 03:51 |
| cheeseboy | ?? | 03:52 |
| olem | and, are you sure to be on a Class B network (/16) ? not in a Class C (/24) ? | 03:52 |
| cheeseboy | no i dont even know what that means | 03:52 |
| olem | I guess your in a Class C. If so, your issue is 'netmask 255.255.0' which should be 'netmask 255.255.255.0' | 03:52 |
| olem | Class B network are 'large' network from 16xxx addresses. | 03:53 |
| cheeseboy | oh yea it is that | 03:53 |
| cheeseboy | typo my bad | 03:53 |
| cheeseboy | how i reset all my internet on ubuntu? | 03:53 |
| olem | Class C are 'tiny' networks (even if your may subnet them in tinier ones) for 255 addresses | 03:53 |
| olem | what do you mean by "resetting all my internet"? | 03:54 |
| cheeseboy | disconnect reconnect w/ new settings | 03:54 |
| olem | If you want to 'restart your network' to apply new parameters, you just have to issue 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' | 03:54 |
| olem | but be sure of your parameters prior to network restart... if you're teleworking :-) | 03:55 |
| cheeseboy | failed to bring up eth0 | 03:55 |
| olem | sudo tail -f /var/log/messages ? | 03:55 |
| olem | could inform you about why | 03:56 |
| cheeseboy | not much info there | 03:57 |
| olem | ok. so, you should issue an 'sudo mii-tool' | 03:57 |
| olem | to see to what physical iface you've got a jack plugged in. | 03:57 |
| olem | (to be sure about eth0 and eth1) | 03:57 |
| cheeseboy | fails on both | 03:58 |
| olem | for example, on my laptop, I don't use eth0 and when I issue 'sudo mii-tool', it returns me something like : | 03:58 |
| olem | olem@lembox:~$ sudo mii-tool | 03:58 |
| olem | eth0: no link | 03:58 |
| olem | SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Operation not supported | 03:58 |
| cheeseboy | yes | 03:58 |
| olem | to tell me: | 03:58 |
| olem | . hey dude, no cable in eth0 ('no link') | 03:58 |
| cheeseboy | cept oppisite eth0 and eth 1 | 03:58 |
| cheeseboy | eth1 no link | 03:59 |
| cheeseboy | eth0 that other error | 03:59 |
| olem | . hey dude, I cannot stat about your eth1 (cause it's the wireless iface, and don't support this interrogation) | 03:59 |
| olem | what does eth0 tells? | 03:59 |
| olem | exactly | 03:59 |
| cheeseboy | yes its wireless | 03:59 |
| olem | So, you'r mii-tool reports that : | 04:00 |
| olem | . eth1 is a wired interface, with no link (no cable in) | 04:00 |
| olem | . eth0 ??? (I did not understand) | 04:00 |
| olem | ? | 04:00 |
| cheeseboy | no.. | 04:00 |
| cheeseboy | <olem> eth0: no link | 04:01 |
| cheeseboy | <olem> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Operation not supported | 04:01 |
| cheeseboy | cept switch et1 w/ eth0 | 04:01 |
| olem | so you're mii-tool tells you that: | 04:01 |
| olem | . SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported | 04:02 |
| olem | . eth1: no link | 04:02 |
| olem | ? | 04:02 |
| cheeseboy | yes | 04:02 |
| olem | and your /etc/network/interfaces is configured this way: | 04:02 |
| olem | auto lo0 | 04:02 |
| olem | oups... | 04:02 |
| olem | auto lo | 04:02 |
| olem | iface lo inet loopback | 04:02 |
| olem | # wireless | 04:02 |
| olem | iface eth0 inet dhcp | 04:03 |
| olem | # wired | 04:03 |
| olem | iface eth1 inet static | 04:03 |
| olem | address 192.168.1.102 | 04:03 |
| cheeseboy | eth0 and eth1 are wireless | 04:03 |
| cheeseboy | but eth1 doesnt work | 04:04 |
| cheeseboy | and i have eth0 configures as static | 04:04 |
| cheeseboy | so i can rember ip easier | 04:04 |
| olem | hum... strange mii-tools returned a eth1 with 'no link' if it's a wireless iface... but, well, who knows (perhaps some drivers support this PHy...) | 04:05 |
| olem | anyway, can you please spell me the /etc/network/interfaces relating to eth0, to be sure there is no issue? | 04:05 |
| cheeseboy | auto lo | 04:06 |
| cheeseboy | iface lo inet loopback | 04:06 |
| cheeseboy | iface eth0 inet static | 04:06 |
| cheeseboy | adress 192168.1.102 | 04:07 |
| cheeseboy | netmask 255.255.2550 | 04:07 |
| olem | ==> be sure to have exactly : address 192.168.1.102 | 04:07 |
| cheeseboy | ya typos here | 04:07 |
| olem | (2 'd' to address) | 04:07 |
| olem | ok. | 04:07 |
| olem | and netmask 255.255.255.0 :) | 04:07 |
| cheeseboy | gateway 192.168.1.1 | 04:07 |
| cheeseboy | auto eth0 | 04:08 |
| olem | add (before auto eth0) : | 04:08 |
| olem | network 192.168.1.0 | 04:08 |
| olem | broadcast 192.168.1.255 | 04:08 |
| olem | and /etc/init.d/networking restart again | 04:09 |
| olem | (after saving the file of course :) | 04:09 |
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| cheeseboy | olem | 04:09 |
| cheeseboy | failed to bring up eth0 | 04:10 |
| olem | ok :( | 04:10 |
| olem | can you comment all the declarative parts for you eth0 and try these ones: | 04:10 |
| olem | iface eth0 inet dhcp | 04:10 |
| olem | auto eth0 | 04:10 |
| olem | and (save) /etc/init.d/networking restart ? | 04:11 |
| cheeseboy | ya h/o | 04:11 |
| olem | just to see | 04:11 |
| cheeseboy | dhclient brings it up | 04:11 |
| olem | what does your ifconfig (or ip addr show) returns? | 04:11 |
| olem | regarding eth0 of course | 04:12 |
| cheeseboy | 192.168.1.102 wen i use dhclient | 04:12 |
| olem | netmask/broadcast/ ? | 04:12 |
| cheeseboy | ?? | 04:13 |
| olem | 'ip addr show' should returns you something like that, relating to eth1 : | 04:14 |
| olem | inet 192.168.1.102/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth1 | 04:14 |
| olem | s/eth1/eth0 :) | 04:14 |
| olem | In fact, if you can negociate an @IP via DHCP and ping outside, you are sure you wireless conf is okay (wpa_supplicant.conf I suppose) | 04:15 |
| cheeseboy | i nvr touched it | 04:16 |
| olem | So, if your /etc/network/interfaces configured in static mode (iface eth0 inet static, and all the stuff) does not bring up your iface, the problem is in the /etc/network/interfaces : a typo error or something like that | 04:16 |
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| Burgundavia | olem: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces? | 04:17 |
| olem | From my point of view, with what I understand of your network topology, your /etc/network/interfaces should be exactly this one : | 04:17 |
| olem | # loopback | 04:17 |
| olem | auto lo | 04:17 |
| Burgundavia | olem: ahh, pastebin | 04:17 |
| olem | iface lo inet loobpack | 04:17 |
| olem | # eth0 - wireless but static | 04:17 |
| olem | auto eth0 | 04:17 |
| cheeseboy | Burgundavia, olem is helping me w/ the problem | 04:17 |
| olem | iface eth0 inet static | 04:18 |
| Burgundavia | right, sorry | 04:18 |
| olem | address 192.168.1.102 | 04:18 |
| olem | network 192.168.1.0 | 04:18 |
| olem | netmask 255.255.255.0 | 04:18 |
| olem | broadcast 192.168.1.255 | 04:18 |
| cheeseboy | i had those but in different order | 04:19 |
| olem | gateway 192.168.1.XXX (I dunno what is your gw, but you should) | 04:19 |
| Burgundavia | olem: please use pastebin next time | 04:19 |
| olem | place them in that order (I'm not sure this will impact) | 04:19 |
| Burgundavia | you also will want a auto eth0 before the iface line | 04:19 |
| cheeseboy | thats what it said | 04:19 |
| olem | Burgundavia, why do you want me to c/p my /etc/network/interfaces with all my gory comments in there? :) | 04:19 |
| Burgundavia | olem: because I thought you were cheeseboy | 04:20 |
| Burgundavia | cheeseboy can you pastebin that file? | 04:20 |
| cheeseboy | no | 04:20 |
| cheeseboy | no x | 04:20 |
| olem | Burgundavia, I dunno what the hell you're drinking, but I'm okay for the same thing ;) | 04:20 |
| olem | uh... 4:20 AM! I'm gonna go to bed... | 04:21 |
| cheeseboy | where i put auto eth0? | 04:21 |
| cheeseboy | wait olem | 04:22 |
| cheeseboy | i need help :( | 04:22 |
| olem | you can put 'auto eth0' before, or after the declaration segment for an iface. | 04:22 |
| olem | usually, I place them in the begining of my /etc/network/interfaces | 04:22 |
| olem | like: | 04:22 |
| olem | auto lo | 04:22 |
| olem | auto eth0 | 04:22 |
| olem | auto eth1 | 04:22 |
| olem | and then, I declare those interfaces (lo, eth0 and eth1) | 04:23 |
| olem | but, well, you can in fact place the 'auto' directive anywhere in you file, excepted in a declarative bloc | 04:23 |
| olem | (man interfaces for more | 04:23 |
| olem | ok. I'm gonna go to bed. | 04:24 |
| cheeseboy | X( | 04:24 |
| olem | cheeseboy, cross check your /etc/network/interfaces with Burgundavia | 04:24 |
| cheeseboy | it broke worst | 04:24 |
| cheeseboy | now says network is down | 04:24 |
| Burgundavia | cheeseboy: can you pm me that file then? | 04:24 |
| olem | I' pretty sure you've got an error in it. It's trivial to correct, if you repeat _exactly_ your /etc/network/interfaces here. | 04:25 |
| olem | thx Burgundavia :) | 04:25 |
| olem | seeya | 04:25 |
| cheeseboy | Burgundavia, how? | 04:25 |
| cheeseboy | Burgundavia, i have to type it all :( | 04:25 |
| cheeseboy | Burgundavia, wait it just magically fixed | 04:27 |
| cheeseboy | X( | 04:27 |
| cheeseboy | how i add samba user and pass? | 04:29 |
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| foo | w22 | 05:37 |
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| massctrl | hi all, does ubuntu server have xen packages? | 04:35 |
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| necrite_ | hi all | 04:42 |
| lionel | hi necrite_ | 04:43 |
| lionel | massctrl: yes, xen packages are in ubuntu server. | 04:43 |
| massctrl | tnx lionel | 04:44 |
| massctrl | I have found a link meanwhile | 04:44 |
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| massctrl | k I'm not familiar with ubuntu-server, what's the default mailserver ? | 04:50 |
| massctrl | is it exim like Debian's ? | 04:50 |
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| lionel | massctrl: no one is installed by default | 05:13 |
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| massctrl | lionel: ok good to know, docs are talking about postfix,... https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html | 06:16 |
| massctrl | my fav anyway ;-) | 06:16 |
| massctrl | by the way anyone knows if there are any hardware vendors that will support ubuntu server ? | 06:16 |
| lionel | I would also advice postfix, but you're free to choose :) | 06:16 |
| massctrl | I mean Hp is offering commercial debian support, which is kind of nice, ... but i'm not that keen on debian,... | 06:17 |
| lionel | massctrl: I use Dell, HP is also well supported (as used in Canonical DC :)) | 06:17 |
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| Ali_ix | hi | 07:09 |
| Ali_ix | does apt-pinning work on ubuntu at all? | 07:09 |
| Ali_ix | how do i get it working on feisty? | 07:09 |
| shawarma | It just does. | 07:52 |
| shawarma | If that's all the detail you're going to give, all I can say is: it already works. | 07:52 |
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| Ali_ix | thanks shawarma, | 08:26 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: i want to exclude linux-headers and linux-image package to being updated with auto update, | 08:27 |
| Ali_ix | how can i do this? which priority to set? | 08:27 |
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| shawarma | Ali_ix: Just put them on hold. | 09:08 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Much easier. | 09:08 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Heck, it's even easier than that. :) | 09:08 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: on hold? ho to do this? | 09:08 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Just remove linux-image. | 09:08 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Not linux-image-2.6.whatever, but linux-image and either linux-image-server or linux-image-generic. | 09:09 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Those are the packages that depend on the newest and hence it's them that take care of having your kernel uptodate. | 09:09 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Why do you want to do this? | 09:09 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: i have some good and stable config with 2.6.20-13 kernel on ubuntu, and dont need any kernel update now :} | 09:10 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: i want to exclude kernel-related packages fro auto update | 09:10 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Um.. Ok. | 09:10 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: some one advised to use pinning | 09:10 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: There's no need. | 09:11 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: You using the server images? | 09:11 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: no, desktop images on feisty | 09:11 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Ok. "apt-get remove linux-image-generic" | 09:12 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: That should do it. | 09:12 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: I'm curious why you're asking here, though? | 09:13 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: isnt it nessecary for later? | 09:13 |
| Ali_ix | *necessary | 09:13 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: what is within linux-image-generic-* package? just linux headers and sources? :) | 09:14 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Well.. Yes, in the same sense as the kernel updates are necessary, but it's those you don't want? | 09:14 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: linux-image-generic-* are the actual kernels. | 09:14 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: The headers are in linux-headers-generic-* | 09:14 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: You should *not* remove linux-image-generic-*. | 09:15 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Only linux-image-generic. | 09:15 |
| shawarma | (no suffix) | 09:15 |
| Ali_ix | oh, got it :d | 09:15 |
| Ali_ix | thanks shawarma :) | 09:15 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: this is a virtual package to the latest apackage build, isnt it? | 09:16 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Yes. That's how we make sure people get kernel updates. | 09:17 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Well.. Kernel updates when there are ABI changes, anyway. | 09:17 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: If you want to be completely sure nothing updates your kernel without asking, you should do: | 09:17 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: "echo linux-image-generic-`uname -r` hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections" | 09:18 |
| shawarma | Ali_ix: Gotta run! | 09:18 |
| Ali_ix | :D some strange command :D | 09:18 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: thanks very much | 09:18 |
| Ali_ix | shawarma: thanks again, and bye ;) | 09:33 |
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