[12:02] <Jowi> xst, from what I understand it is on the server that the option should be changed?
[12:02] <p1ls> 
[12:02] <aubade> rapter: You mean app-install?
[12:03] <p1ls> test
[12:03] <gaillard> anyone here mind answering a struts 2 question for me?
[12:03] <Jowi> xst, also, a bit further down someone solved it by modifying /etc/nsswitch.conf.
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: there is no package name for a menu entry
[12:03] <nootrope> rapter: did you try #mintylinux?
[12:03] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: theres nobody ever there, and #mintlinux is always quiet.
[12:04] <nootrope> rapter: and, did you try removing the Applications menu from the panel and re-adding it, like IndyGunFreak told you to?
[12:04] <SillyZ> SillyZ, test
[12:04] <SillyZ> hmm no beep
[12:04] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: i don't think he did,
[12:04] <robdeman> folks how do I untar using Putty/SSH/Commandline?
[12:04] <m0se5>  How do I use the ls command and omit the file permissions in the output? ls -lgGhR /folder/ > output.file is doing what I need except for the file permissions being in there.
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[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: but Mint uses some sort of bastard GUI, so it might be differen than standard Gnome/KDE
[12:05] <WillJitsu> I have WinXP installed on a 250GB HD.  I want to dual-boot XP and ubuntu.  What software should I use to create a partition for ubuntu and what steps should I follow to make sure they dual-boot together properly?
[12:05] <nootrope> hmm. i see.
[12:05] <younghacker> hey
[12:05] <nootrope> hey
[12:05] <younghacker> i got a stupid question
[12:05] <lil_cain> WillJitsu: the installer does it
[12:05] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: i don't think he's trying to add/remove an application, he's tryign to add the add/remove the add/remove option in his menu
[12:05] <Jowi> !dualboot | WillJitsu
[12:06] <ubotu> WillJitsu: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[12:06] <MrPockets> hey fellas
[12:06] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: shoot
[12:06] <SillyZ> install windows, then install linux, done
[12:06] <younghacker> how do i find out how much space is left on the hard drive
[12:06] <m0se5> WillJitsu: just start the ubuntu setup... it'll walk you though to use your free space on disk.
[12:06] <WillJitsu> sweet.  thanks!
[12:06] <nootrope> IndyGunFreak: yeah, i got that, so i thought your suggestion was a good one
[12:06] <Jowi> younghacker, df -h
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> nootrope: yeah, on standard Gnome/KDE, i think it would have worked.
[12:06] <nootrope> younghacker: open it in Places
[12:06] <WillJitsu> m0se5: even though xp is already using all 250 as one partition?
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> almost sure it would have actually
[12:06] <younghacker> thanks
[12:06] <nootrope> and double click to open it and look at the status bar (bottom)
[12:07] <m0se5> WillJitsu: yup.. it'll use the free space that windows is not using.
[12:07] <MrPockets> my ubuntu settup hates my winblows wireless mouse
[12:07] <MrPockets> any idea how to configure this?
[12:07] <WillJitsu> m0se5: nice.  thanks
[12:07] <m0se5>  How do I use the ls command and omit the file permissions in the output? ls -lgGhR /folder/ > output.file is doing what I need except for the file permissions being in there.
[12:07] <nootrope> \IndyGunFreak: i see.
[12:08] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: what version of Mint do you have
[12:08] <Gladiator> selam tr den balanan varm
[12:09] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: are you there?
[12:09] <xRainbows> hi, is there a software other than wget to download entire websites with links and media ....
[12:09] <xRainbows> ?
[12:09] <rapter> casandra Anywhay I solvd the problem
[12:09] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: how did you solve it?
[12:09] <Gladiator> turkiyeden balanan yokmu hi yaww !!!
[12:09] <Jowi> m0se5, ls -Ghr ?
[12:10] <pike_> xRainbows: maybe you could run getbot under wine :)
[12:10] <rapter> app-install found in sinaptic ( it isent installed in casandra)
[12:10] <xRainbows> ok, ill read about it
[12:10] <xRainbows> thanx!
[12:10] <IndyGunFreak> rapter: isn't cassandra still beta?
[12:10] <younghacker> i tried to download the nintendo emulator and i don't see it on the applications menu is it somewhere else or should install again
[12:10] <Jowi> m0se5, oh, you still want date/time and size?
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: try running it from the command-line.
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[12:11] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: (ie from a terminal)
[12:11] <younghacker> what would be the command for that program?
[12:11] <m0se5> Jowi: yeah.. and it to be in a list.
[12:11] <SlimeyPete> younghacker: what's the program called?
[12:11] <younghacker> wait let me get the title
[12:12] <Gladiator> #ubuntu.tr
[12:12] <xRainbows> with "/join ....
[12:12] <MKS> dpkg: error processing webmin_1.350_all.deb (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory
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[12:13] <MKS> no installs because i cannot access directory
[12:13] <xRainbows> !tr
[12:13] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[12:13] <xRainbows> !tr >Gladiator
[12:14] <Hillview> anyone here who's tried installing feisty on a thinkpad t23 by chance?  Just wondering if there's any known issues..
[12:15] <spasticteapot> Hillview: Should be smooth sailing.
[12:15] <nigro> anyone know what webcam are well supported?
[12:15] <spasticteapot> Hillview: Ubuntu + Linux = Easy.
[12:15] <Hillview> spasticteapot, cool, thanks.
[12:15] <spasticteapot> Hillview: Ubuntu + Thinkpad = Easy. Brain is dead.
[12:15] <xRainbows> Logitec
[12:15] <xRainbows> is supported i know
[12:15] <xRainbows> mine
[12:15] <rapter> Yesturday I tried to install itcasandra the first time butmade a litle eror in hurry and so tried again today Yesturday sombody sugested apackage that made beryl work but i fergott the name.
[12:16] <nootrope> nigro: try googling "webcam support ubuntu"
[12:16] <Hillview> spasticteapot, I was guessing as much, but I've been surprised before.. figured I'd check. ;)
[12:16] <nigro> nootrope: thanks
[12:16] <nootrope> nigro: looks iffy
[12:17] <derekS> if i do a last on my server, i under the logged in column, i get 00:00
[12:17] <derekS> what does that mena
[12:17] <sebas_> what would you recommend to develop applications for GNOME in c++/c#?
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> !c++
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <xRainbows> nigro  -->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:17] <IndyGunFreak> !c
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <pike_> sebas_: do not mention sharp in this channel
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[12:18] <IndyGunFreak> what isn't beta?
[12:18] <pike_> sebas_: ;-)
[12:18] <cafuego> sharp
[12:18] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know of an issue with torrents in feisty where the client repeatedly stops/starts the download/upload and almost completely loses all network connectivity during this point?
[12:18] <Pollywog> what is the name of the package that provides Adobe Reader?
[12:18] <cafuego> acroread
[12:18] <Pollywog> is it not acroread?
[12:19] <sebas_> ;)
[12:19] <IndyGunFreak> there's also an adobe package isn't there?
[12:19] <Pollywog> tnx
[12:19] <kasra> HI , anyone had a problem with kppp long time modem initializing ?
[12:19] <Pollywog> I must be missing the URL for it
[12:19] <nootrope> nigro, do you have the Easycam2 packet?
[12:20] <keeev> How can i veiw a users login password from root?
[12:20] <Pollywog> because apt does not recognize the name acroread
[12:20] <Gladiator> bune tr tr diyo yaaa gck oldum
[12:20] <Jowi> m0se5, can't see that option in the man page. you can use a filter on it though. ls -lgGhrc | awk {'print $2"\t"$3"\t"$4"\t"$5"\t"$6'} (the "\t" is a tab)
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: what torrent client are you using?
[12:20] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i've had this problem in azureus and ktorrent
[12:20] <Jowi> m0se5, and the $number is the column to print
[12:20] <sebas_> do you recommend QT3 to develop simple GNOME apps?
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: have you forwarded your ports on yuour router
[12:21] <cypher1> sebas_, use GTK
[12:21] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: yes, all the basic stuff is correct
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> wierd, sorry,i haveno other suggestion
[12:21] <secleinteer> kk
[12:21] <andyw> can anyone help me getting OpenGL to work when running Feisty Fawn in Parallels 3?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> whats that one bitorrent client, popular on windows... it runs very well under Wine.
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> cant remember the name of it.
[12:22] <andyw> indy, utorrent?
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> andyw: thats it.
[12:22] <gizmo_the_great1> IndyGunFreak: azureus?
[12:22] <SillyZ> azureus
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> gizmo_the_great1: no, utorrent, thats the one
[12:22] <secleinteer> azureus doesn't need wine
[12:22] <rs> azureus is java right ?
[12:22] <secleinteer> yeah
[12:23] <gizmo_the_great1> secleinteer: i know - i just menntuioned it due to popularity :-)
[12:23] <kasra> i have a problem with kppp using D-Link serial modem on feisty fawn , it takes a long time on initializing before dialing ! anyone can help ?
[12:23] <omegacenti_> !dpms
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: you could try running utorrent in wine, if you're sure its an ubuntu issue(ie, you don't have the problem under Windows)
[12:23] <omegacenti_> What is DPMS?
[12:23] <HymnToLife> [00:22]  <secleinteer> azureus doesn't need wine <= no indeed, it's drunk enough as is :p
[12:23] <Ahadiel> secleinteer: Try Deluge?
[12:23] <Jowi> m0se5, was it good enough?
[12:23] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i spent hours on the #azureus-support channel trying to get this fixed, and it seems to be an OS issue
[12:23] <secleinteer> we looked at the kernel logs
[12:23] <SillyZ> DPMS - Discontinued Problematic Microsoft Systems
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: well, i don't know, Ktorrent works perfectly for me
[12:24] <younghacker> it's called fce ultra
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: but i have a hard time believing its an OS issue
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> very hard
[12:24] <younghacker> thats the name of the emulator
[12:24] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i'm sure it is, i ran azureus in winxp with the exact same settings, same problem
[12:24] <omegacenti_> SillyZ: what?
[12:24] <andyw> secleinteer, what's the problem with azureus?
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: so you had the same problem with azeurus, under windows, with the same settings?
[12:24] <younghacker> add/remove programs  says the program is there but it's not listed anywhere
[12:25] <SillyZ> omegacenti, was making a joke about the acronym for DPMS
[12:25] <omegacenti_> Weird, I think I am still here...
[12:25] <omegacenti_> oh
[12:25] <andyw> does anyone know how to get OpenGL working in parallels?
[12:25] <Dougla1> hello!!
[12:25] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: and it's happening with multiple clients on the same OS
[12:26] <SillyZ> IndyGunFreak, whats the problem with azureus your having maybe i can help?
[12:26] <Dougla1> any one can help me to install one webcam ?
[12:26] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: just lost the connection there
[12:26] <Jowi> omegacenti_, did the resolution/driver prob get solved for you?
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: but if the problem is under Windows and Ubuntu, then the problem is likely you're firewall, not Ubuntu
[12:26] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i tried running azureus with the same settings under winxp, and nothing happened
[12:26] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok, i misunderstood
[12:26] <secleinteer> the firewall is fine
[12:26] <secleinteer> i've been using torrents for years, and i've NEVER seen this problem
[12:26] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Well through a ton of research and a pinch of I dont know what the %^&* I did, I now have all the resolutions I was hoping for.
[12:26] <SillyZ> Hes probably got his outbound speed cranked to no-limit, thus causing timeouts, try dropping your outbound speed to like 20k/s
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> i thought you said it was doing the same thing under windows
[12:27] <secleinteer> SillyZ: actually i've got the upload limited
[12:27] <secleinteer> i always have
[12:27] <omegacenti_> Jowi: You were the one that made the research possible :)
[12:27] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: nope, just kubuntu
[12:27] <SillyZ> secleinteer, whats the limit your set at ?
[12:27] <secleinteer> SillyZ: 40 kB/s
[12:27] <secleinteer> as i said, i've been using torrents for years with no problems
[12:27] <SillyZ> secleinteer, try chopping that in half
[12:27] <secleinteer> SillyZ: my max upload is 53 kB/s
[12:28] <Ryan__> hey back
[12:28] <SillyZ> secleinteer, also is your isp roadrunner by chance?
[12:28] <omegacenti_> Jowi: You have pretty much assured me of my continued use of Linux And Ubuntu and to be an active supporter of the Linux community. Again, hats off to you friend.
[12:28] <secleinteer> SillyZ: nope, att
[12:28] <Ryan__> does anyone know how to use rkhunter or where to even find it to start the damm thing
[12:28] <Jowi> omegacenti_, congrats to make it work. I've still no clue to why the lower resolutions didn't work.
[12:28] <Rubiks99> hi, i have ubuntu server, but i need cgi. does ubuntu serve come with it, because it aid cgi.pm not found
[12:28] <secleinteer> SillyZ: the point i'm making here is that i haven't had this problem EVER
[12:28] <SillyZ> secleinteer, ya drop it down to around 20, and see if that helps man, sounds like ya got too much traffic going and its causing timeouts
[12:28] <secleinteer> i just upgraded to feisty
[12:28] <secleinteer> and i have this issue
[12:28] <Rubiks99> i have downloaded the cgi.pm, but how do i install it?
[12:28] <secleinteer> SillyZ: i'm telling you it's not the upload
[12:28] <SillyZ> secleinteer, ok
[12:28] <secleinteer> i have the problem when i'm not upoading at all
[12:28] <secleinteer> like right now
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: opena  terminal, and type rkhunter, it will give you options(like rkhunter --checkall), do one of the commands
[12:28] <Ryan__> ok
[12:29] <omegacenti_> Jowi: It seem that putting in ridiculously extreme value for horizontal refresh and vertical refresh somewhat did the trick. a LOT of trial and error.
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: make sure you use sudo when you run the rkhunter command.. ie.. sudo rkhunter --checkall
[12:29] <Dougla1> please, help me to install my webcam in ubuntu !
[12:29] <rabiddachshund> I'm trying to dual boot vista and feisty, but vista is stopping grub from getting to the boot stage. How do I fix that?
[12:29] <secleinteer> only download, still have it disconnecting
[12:29] <Jowi> omegacenti_, yeah, those monitor specs are impossible to find. i searched everywhere.
[12:29] <Jowi> omegacenti_, and very strange that ddcprobe showed nothing
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> rabiddachshund: i've heard that problem, easiest way, might be to put grub on a bootable floppy or usb pen drive
[12:30] <omegacenti_> Jowi: I fear the "Deisgned for Microsoft Windows" Logo.
[12:30] <Bensel> What do I have to do to enable the XRecord extension?
[12:30] <Jowi> lol omegacenti_
[12:30] <Skwid_> hey guys
[12:30] <Skwid_> i have a small problem
[12:30] <rabiddachshund> Indygunfrieak: how would I do that?
[12:30] <Bensel> I tried Option "RECORD" "Enable" already
[12:30] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Did you install vista after installing Linux?
[12:30] <Jowi> Skwid_, ask and be detailed about it :)
[12:30] <rabiddachshund> no, I bought vista preinstalled.
[12:30] <Bensel> (in the Extensions section)
[12:30] <keeev> How can i veiw a users login password from root?
[12:30] <Skwid_> somehow everytime i open a session in gnome, i get the 'Main Menu' editor window opening, but it's not in my session startup programs
[12:31] <cafuego> ... and did a resize, then added linux? Did you instal grub to the MBR?
[12:31] <Dougla1> you see me ?
[12:31] <Jowi> Skwid_, see if it is in $HOME/.config/autostart/
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> rabiddachshund: i've been hearing grub problems with vista.... maybe they are exaggerated, i don't know.... i'd look into creating a bootable floppy.
[12:31] <keeev> yes
[12:31] <cafuego> Dougla1: no, sorry
[12:31] <keeev> lol
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> !supergrubdisk | rabiddachshund
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about supergrubdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> sgd
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> !sgd
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <Dougla1> kkk
[12:32] <cafuego> IndyGunFreak: I've seen a few installs of Ubuntu onto a vista box, they all worked just fine.
[12:32] <TaJMoX> !google
[12:32] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[12:32] <mcronline> i dual boot vista and ubuntu
[12:32] <m0se5> Jowi: whoa... awesome.. thanks so much for that.. very nice indeed.
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego: i don't doubt that, i've just read a lot of people here havign problems with Vista and grub.
[12:32] <IndyGunFreak> maybe they are doing somethign wrong, i don't know.
[12:32] <mzfckr> b
[12:32] <omegacenti_> Jowi: spreading the love tha is wisdom again?
[12:32] <cafuego> IndyGunFreak: Let's define it as "problem with vista" and not blame grub by association ;-)
[12:33] <m0se5> Jowi: Thank you so much.
[12:33] <mcronline> lol
[12:33] <rabiddachshund> cafuego: I didn't actually install anything. Vista has worked fine for me, but I have a laptop running dapper drake and figured I'd try feisty. I ordered a cd (apparently I suck at burning bootable iso's) and ran it. It ran perfectly the first time, but I forgot to back up my files, so i booted windows, backed up and now ubuntu won't load.
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> cafuego: lol, no prblem with me
[12:33] <Jowi> m0se5, no probs
[12:33] <Skwid_> Jowi: nope, it doesnt look like it
[12:33] <rizhun> Can anyone tell me how I list devices?
[12:33] <Yggdrasil> can somone explain to me how varrun varlock udev devshm lrm get thier partitoin sizes ?
[12:33] <rabiddachshund> It's like vista has completely blocked anything and everything on the cd.
[12:33] <Ryan__> thanks guys
[12:33] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Ah, it won't boot off the cd?
[12:33] <Ryan__> all done
[12:33] <cr3_> I've installed 'powernowd' and when I try to change freq, it says :
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.97, (c) 2003-2006 John Clemens
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd: Found 2 scalable units:  -- 1 'CPU' per scalable unit
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd:   cpu0: 2400Mhz - 2800Mhz (2 steps)
[12:33] <cr3_> powernowd:   cpu1: 2400Mhz - 2800Mhz (2 steps)
[12:33] <rabiddachshund> correct.
[12:33] <cr3_> wh0t should i do?
[12:33] <cafuego> !paste > cr3_
[12:33] <andyw> can anyone tell me how to enable OpenGL hardware support?
[12:34] <cr3_> cafuego, thank you
[12:34] <Ryan__> it would have been cool to have a read me to know about the commands and know what to do
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: did you pass?..lol
[12:34] <Ryan__> yepper
[12:34] <Ryan__> this install is fresh so yea
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: all you have to do is type rkhunter, and it shows you all the commands.
[12:34] <rabiddachshund> I tried to explore it from the windows explorer, nothing. I right clicked and opened it, a window came up and closed. I tried to cd into it from the dos, it gave an i/o error
[12:34] <omegacenti_> rabiddachshund: Microsoft probably thinks this is a "feature" for linux users. Allows them to think less about the complexities of which OS to choose.. They are right... "switches to full Linux box"
[12:34] <sebas_> what gcc parameter should I use to include gtkmm.h?
[12:34] <Ryan__> ahh k can you do that with any program
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: i didn't know if it would sense vulnerabilitis cuz you don't have a firewall.
[12:34] <Ryan__> Im new
[12:34] <rizhun> Is there a command like lsdev in linux ?
[12:34] <Yggdrasil> can somone explain to me how varrun varlock udev devshm lrm get thier partitoin sizes ? ihave one system of mine that has them set at 30 m and another they are 112 m
[12:34] <Ryan__> ahhh k
[12:34] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Ok, that has nothing to do with grub. Most likely the cd is just busted. Can you check the md5sum of the iso file?
[12:34] <HymnToLife> andyw, you need to install proper driver for your graphics card
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: no, not any program, alot of programs though, you can type, "programname --help", and a similar type set of instructions will come up
[12:35] <omegacenti_> cafuego: how do you check md5sum?
[12:35] <cafuego> omegacenti_: On linux, `md5sum <filename>'
[12:35] <cafuego> on Windows, I'd need to google.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> omegacenti_: md5sum filename
[12:35] <omegacenti_> thanks cafuego
[12:35] <omegacenti_> thanks gnomefreak
[12:35] <rabiddachshund> well, I actually ordered 2 cds. Neither of them work on vista, both of them work on xp and my dapper laptop just sucks, so it won't mount.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> theres a tool on windows to do it
[12:35] <Ryan__> how do you make firestarter start at boot up?
[12:35] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: i'm downloading a torrent now, at around 400k... so i sincerely doubt its aen told.n ubuntu feisty issue, no matter what you've be
[12:35] <Jowi> omegacenti_, nah, just playing around trying to improve myself at the same time ;)
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> oops, no matter what you've been told, i hate this laptop keyboard
[12:36] <cafuego> http://www.etree.org/cgi-bin/counter.cgi/software/md5sum.exe
[12:36] <Dougla1> anyone can open my eyes from my problem with webcam genius camlook ?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: it should start on start up you just may not see the GUI
[12:36] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Same here :) I'm trying to spend time in here tyring to learn all I can from others problems with using the software.
[12:36] <sebas_> Ryan__ I think that firestarter runs automatically at boot
[12:36] <IndyGunFreak> Dougla1: webcam support is very hit/miss with LInux, your best bet is google.
[12:36] <Ryan__> ok I have to start it manually for it to appear as a tray icon
[12:36] <Bensel> Ah, got it, had to Load "record"
[12:36] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Is the vista bachine set up to try booting from CD is a cd is present?
[12:36] <cr3_> I've installed 'powernowd' and when I try to change freq, it says :
[12:36] <cr3_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24776/plain/
[12:36] <Dougla1> IndyGunFreak: i find very much in google..
[12:36] <Ryan__> is it like that for everyone?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: its running anyway in the background
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: isn't it IPTables that runs at boot?.. not firestarter?
[12:37] <Ryan__> oh ok
[12:37] <Ryan__> cool thanks
[12:37] <Skwid_> Jowi: any other suggestion ?
[12:37] <rabiddachshund> cafuego: yes. In fact, i've manually booted from cd multiple times, but it just defaults to windows.
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> !iptables
[12:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[12:37] <ceil420> Can't FUCK wit' {uX} when we're blazed XD http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4686/shot0012uk7.png
[12:37] <gnomefreak> IndyGunFreak: yes firestarter is GUI to iptables
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> gnomefreak: oh ok...
[12:37] <IndyGunFreak> i see
[12:37] <cafuego> ceil420: Why are you spamming?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ceil420: please watch your language
[12:37] <rabiddachshund> like it's purposely breaking the cd drive to force windows to load.
[12:37] <Jowi> Skwid_, still looking. did you try to save the session after you closed that window?
[12:37] <Ryan__> so even if it closes in the tray its still running?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: yes
[12:38] <rabiddachshund> disabling, not breaking**
[12:38] <Ryan__> kk
[12:38] <Skwid_> Jowi: no, ill do that
[12:38] <IndyGunFreak> Ryan__: i'm not sure.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Ryan__: iptables are part of the kernel iirc
[12:38] <cafuego> cr3_: As far as I can tell, that means you have 2 cpu cores, each can be scaled between 2.4 and 2.8 GHz.
[12:38] <Yggdrasil> can somone explain to me how varrun varlock udev devshm lrm get thier partitoin sizes ? ihave one system of mine that has them set at 30 m and another they are 112 m
[12:38] <cr3_> cafuego, why?
[12:38] <omegacenti_> Ooooo didn't even know about iptables... nice
[12:38] <Siph0n> hey... im having some trouble with bluetooth... i have a Motorola SLVR cellphone, and trying to send songs from my laptop to it over bluetooth, but Bluetooth Manager doesnt work... any ideas?
[12:39] <quaala> why the hell wont ubuntu recognize my usb drives all of a sudden
[12:39] <omegacenti_> How secure is iptables? can it be "hacked" ?
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> !bluetooth
[12:39] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Well, if it also wouldn't work on the other machine, chances are the disc is busted... in which case the cd's firmware won't report it as bootable, and the system will just skip it.
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Vista is *not* loaded at that stage, so it *can't* interfere.
[12:39] <cafuego> cr3_: 2400Mhz - 2800Mhz (2 steps)
[12:39] <GenNMX> Anyone familiar with Linux Software RAID? I was wondering if I could increase the size of my RAID1, or if I could use LVM with it.
[12:39] <rabiddachshund> no, it _did_ work on the other machine
[12:39] <cafuego> cr3_: So they can run at 2.4 *or* 2.8
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Ah ok
[12:39] <Ryan__> thanks all Im gonna go
[12:39] <Ryan__> see ya later!
[12:39] <andyw> I'm trying to run Google Earth in Ubuntu 7.04 in Parallels 3.0, but I can't get hardware support to work.  Google Earth will only run in software OpenGl mode.  Can anyone help?
[12:39] <cafuego> rabiddachshund: Other discs fine in th vista box?
[12:39] <IndyGunFreak> rabiddachshund: just google "SUper Grub Disk", and create a bootable floppy... it'll end your headaches
[12:40] <rabiddachshund> thx
[12:40] <rabiddachshund> :( i did'nt think to check
[12:40] <ubuB0nk3rs> andyw
[12:40] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: Can you create a Suber GRUB usb stick?
[12:40] <ubuB0nk3rs> in parallels
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i'm pretty sure, as long as your PC can boot a USB device
[12:40] <ubuB0nk3rs> your emulating generic hardware
[12:40] <cafuego> cr3_: You running gnome?
[12:40] <omegacenti_> What is parallels?
[12:41] <cr3_> cafuego, is there any way I can switch cpufreqd on/off? :P because, I've noticed that when i uninstalled it, cpu freq was set as I set it in BIOS. But when its installed, it switches cpufreq to MAX
[12:41] <andyw> parallels 3.0 supports openGL though
[12:41] <cr3_> cafuego, yes
[12:41] <andyw> parallels is virtualization software for the mac
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> !parallels
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <omegacenti_> andyw: thanks
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> !parallel
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about parallel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <rabiddachshund> crap. all of my music is mp3 so i have no cd's to test, brb
[12:41] <cafuego> cr3_: Ok, run 'dpkg-reconfugure gnome-applets' and answer 'yes' to the suid question.
[12:41] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I already looked in the factoids section :)
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol, oh.. so you can't create a bootable USB?
[12:41] <andyw> ubotu
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> w/ grub
[12:42] <cafuego> cr3_: You can then add the cpu frequency scaling applet to your panel (right click the panel, choose 'add')
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[12:42] <andyw> thanks
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not sure, never done it,
[12:42] <cafuego> cr3_: And then by clicking the panel you can choose speeds and/or governors, which handle speed setting.
[12:42] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: No I don't know, when you were trying to !parallel, I was saying I already looked :) I ask questions when I can't easily find the answer after trying a few times.
[12:42] <paddyvaughan> hi
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: oh ok..lol, sorry, my sarcasm detector is very low today.
[12:42] <paddyvaughan> hi indy
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: whats up.
[12:43] <cr3_> cafuego, there's only 2.4/2.8Ghzz :P
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> did it work?
[12:43] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I try and leave out sarcasm :)
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol
[12:43] <paddyvaughan> not yet, my cd burners messed, but i think i got it burnt, but i cant change the boot order, like, how do i make it boot from cd? i cant seem to find it
[12:43] <rabiddachshund> ok, i can play music and itunes gathers the cd data, so apparently my drive is fine. The feisty cds still boot on xp, so they're fine.
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: thats in your bios....
[12:43] <cafuego> cr3_: Yup, that's read out of the hardware. It's possible there are more, but if the acpi bios isn't reporting them properly... Linux won't know about 'em.
[12:44] <cafuego> cr3_: What cpu is it specifically?
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> press Delete(or F1) while the pC is booting
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> i know indy, but when i press f2 to enter it theres like 1 option
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> isnt it f2?
[12:44] <omegacenti_> Is there any way to turn off JUST the tapping feature on touchpads? I have tried unsuccesfully to remove it.
[12:44] <cr3_> cafuego, so let's say i change speed to min in BIOS (1.4Ghz) and when I need full cpu speed I run cpufreq and it switches to MAX... is that possible?
[12:44] <cr3_> cafuego, pentium D
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: ok, it may be F2, theres a lot of different ways on different computers
[12:44] <omegacenti_> paddyvaughan: usually f2
[12:44] <Jowi> paddyvaughan, depends on the bios which key to press.
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: whats that one option?
[12:44] <omegacenti_> Keyword though is usually.
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> this just takes me to a weird bios, it was never like it before
[12:44] <GenNMX> Does anyone know if the bugs with OCE w/ raid6 have been fixed?
[12:44] <paddyvaughan> 1sec ill find it
[12:45] <TaJMoX> i had a bios which required PGDN key to enter cmos setup
[12:45] <cr3_> cafuego, I seems it supports Speedstepping...
[12:45] <cr3_> *it
[12:45] <secleinteer> IndyGunFreak: i spent about 5 hours on the azureus help channel trying to fix this yesterday, and nothing worked. i don't see what else could be going on
[12:45] <ryanakca> is it possible to install libgnutls13 from (feisty?) onto my ubuntu server (6.06), since libgnutls12 (dapper version) contains a "severe security risk" http://www.sixxs.net/forum/?msg=setup-492260
[12:45] <cafuego> cr3_: i'm trying to google and see what the hardware actually supports in terms of steps.
[12:45] <TTT_Travis> Jowi I solved my problem, just took the video card out and reseated it, must have been dusty, thanks for you help!
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: all i'm saying, is i'm downloading at around 450-500k right now, so its not Feisty
[12:45] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I use to work directly with azureus support, what seems to be thr problem?
[12:46] <tritium> ryanakca: it should be fixed within dapper
[12:46] <paddyvaughan> nm indy got it
[12:46] <MKS> After TWO days of utter frustration and searching I found a important answer to failed installations: here is the link: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+question/7135
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: ok...lol
[12:46] <rabiddachshund> it's got to be something in the bios then
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: did you print that webpage?
[12:46] <CaptainMorgan> omg - disk analyzer is so cool
[12:46] <bruenig> pointless
[12:46] <MKS> just to share
[12:46] <paddyvaughan> yeah, but my goddamn pc wont burn properly :@
[12:46] <seniortaco> bb
[12:47] <rabiddachshund> It's an hp laptop, and they host a bunch of bios files. Which one should I be looking for?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> uh, ok.
[12:47] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: Is it installed by default in ubuntu? Where can I get disk analyzer?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol;
[12:47] <MKS> hope this helps someone in the future
[12:47] <tritium> MKS: failed installations of _what_?
[12:47] <IndyGunFreak> paddyvaughan: why won't it burn properly?
[12:47] <CaptainMorgan> omegacenti_, Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[12:47] <bruenig> MKS, probably better to put it in the forums, a passing comment on irc doesn't help much
[12:47] <CaptainMorgan> very cool
[12:47] <MKS> tritium, really 'any' pkg... apparently...
[12:47] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: Wow. Thanks!
[12:48] <tritium> MKS: no, virtual box, apparently
[12:48] <RabidWeezle> how can I manually set gdm as my display manager?
[12:48] <CaptainMorgan> omegacenti_, I was studying makeup's of hdd's recently and today I found that this prog is default.. nice
[12:48] <RabidWeezle> I installed kde and it's using kdm
[12:48] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: so far its amazing
[12:48] <MKS> virtual box, but if you read it, could be any pkg that needs a serial number, or some interaction
[12:48] <OhMyAudi> !deluge
[12:48] <RabidWeezle> !gdm
[12:48] <MKS> and ends up in an 'empty' installation
[12:48] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <MKS> the 'solution' is second last
[12:48] <bruenig> RabidWeezle, you can only have 1 dm installed at once right? if not try editing /etc/inittab if it exists
[12:48] <MKS> just a fyi
[12:48] <Rubiks99> could someone help me to install CGI.pm on ubuntu server? please
[12:49] <MKS> solution is to 'force' removal
[12:49] <ryanakca> tritium: ok... so, I can use libgnutls12? would libgnutls13 work on my system, or would it break everything?
[12:49] <RabidWeezle> thanks bruenig
[12:49] <MKS> otherwise, all synaptics are killed, no updates etc.
[12:49] <MKS> reallly a major issue
[12:49] <osolomio> trying to install, get as far 64% examing disk, then freeze,was xp
[12:50] <omegacenti_> Is there any way to turn off JUST the tapping feature on touchpads? I have tried unsuccesfully to remove it.
[12:50] <MKS> yes, i know this is not the 'best' place for it, but you guys might remember it later...
[12:50] <tritium> ryanakca: I'm suggesting that a security fix is likely to be released
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> omegacenti_ its under /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:50] <tritium> MKS: not sure who'd actually run into that situation, though
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> maybe man synaptics
[12:50] <Yggdrasil> cant remember
[12:50] <osolomio> beginer need help installing, where to go please?
[12:50] <omegacenti_> Yggdrasil: Thanks, Ill check out xorg.conf to see if it has something akin to "disable tap". I appreciate it!
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> man synaptics dood
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> bbl
[12:51] <Yggdrasil> yw
[12:51] <CaptainMorgan> omegacenti_, http://library.gnome.org/baobab/unstable/index.html.en
[12:51] <ryanakca> tritium: ok
[12:51] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i'm having issues with my torrents sporadically stopping/starting in kubuntu feisty
[12:51] <tritium> ryanakca: dependencies could make trying to upgrade that package a p.i.t.a.
[12:52] <omegacenti_> CaptainMorgan: Thanks! :)
[12:52] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Does anything else seem to exhibit the same behavior?
[12:52] <n2diy_> I just installed Korganizer on to my Dapper box, I imported my .ics file from my FC1 box, and everything looks ok, but my appointment alarms, don't alarm?
[12:52] <ryanakca> tritium: ok, cheers (ps: any way to find all the packages on my system that depend on it?)
[12:52] <tritium> ryanakca: I suggest you wait for the security fix.  If you want to, file a bug, reference the vulnerability, and maybe it'll get the fix out sooner
[12:52] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: well, i almost all network connectivity - web browsing doesn't work, but irc/im works
[12:52] <tritium> ryanakca: apt-cache rdepends <package_name>
[12:52] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: and it happens in azureus and ktorrent
[12:52] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Are you using a router/modem setup?
[12:53] <ryanakca> tritium: ok, well, it's been known for several months now, and thanks :)
[12:53] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah, speedstream modem and linksys router
[12:53] <IndyGunFreak> secleinteer: if you're using a router.. try disconnecting you router, and connecting your modem to your PC, and see if you still have the issue.
[12:53] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I think I might have found out your problem.
[12:53] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: and this happens only kubuntu feisty, not in kubuntu dapper or winxp
[12:54] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Might it be a wrt54g or any variant of that name in similarity?
[12:54] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah, i already heard this suggestion on the azureus channel
[12:54] <secleinteer> but i have pppoe and idk if i can do that
[12:54] <secleinteer> yeah, it's a wrt54g
[12:54] <MKS> tritium, well, you might have a point, but upon searching, there apparently is many, and I did, but did not post...
[12:54] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: One thing that you may benefit from doing is setting up some Quality of service ruling.
[12:54] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know where there is a place that i can see settings for the way the "window list" sizes the opened applications? (like so when i have one window it will take up the whole area.. and 3, each will take up a 3rd..).. any ideas?
[12:54] <rabiddachshund> why wouldn't you be able to set up a pppoe on the computer?
[12:54] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: the guy suggested installing dd-wrt at first, but i have v5, so he said that was pointless because the micro version was no use
[12:54] <ryanakca> tritium: heh, no point in upgrading the package, looks like half my server depends on it
[12:54] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: quality of service?
[12:54] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Anotherthing you could do is replace the onboard firmware with a third party firmware called DDwrt.
[12:55] <jrib> ryanakca: note that security fixes are often added but the version is not upgraded
[12:55] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: read above about dd-wrt
[12:55] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: The micro version is great.
[12:55] <MKS> well, I've got to go now, havent eaten in two days... i want this to work, no matter how much pain.
[12:55] <jrib> ryanakca: check the changelog for the package
[12:55] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: he said it had very few features, so i wouldn't be able to change the setting i needed to
[12:55] <ryanakca> jrib: ok, thanks
[12:55] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: What we are looking to do is install some rules as to how your router handles traffic load by giving priority to certain functions and ports.
[12:55] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah, i heard about this
[12:56] <tritium> jrib: good point ;)
[12:56] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Fix it if its broken is what I say :) Try using micro, see if you like it, see if it just handles trafiic better than the standard firmware.
[12:56] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: this is the kernel error message: " Jun 7 18:23:35 kakkarot kernel: [16921.186035]  NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out"
[12:56] <MKS> tritium, oh, it also can fail on real player and several more programs, search for the complete error message and you will be amazed at how often this   situation comes up...
[12:56] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: ok, i'll try micro
[12:56] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: no chance it will exacerbate the issue?
[12:57] <tritium> MKS: okay
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, no chance?...lol
[12:57] <r00723r0> anyone know what package i can find GtkGLExt Python bindings in?
[12:57] <MKS> tritium, at the rate i'm going, i should become an expert soon... lol...
[12:57] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Its because the router and linux have issues with how long they retain connection memory. Linux has something about 5 days worth of connection memory and the wrt54g quickly craps out with all the memory overloading.
[12:57] <MKS> i'm outta here! thanks to all those helpers here!
[12:57] <Hillview> MKS, that's half the fun. ;)
[12:57] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: If it does you can always reinstall the original
[12:57] <xjkx> When remotely vncing a machine, the user cant use accent keys, whats wrong? i mean, keyboard special characters :/
[12:57] <jrib> r00723r0: there is a bug about the package not existing in the repositories.  The bug's comments contain a link to a deb for them.  Search bugs.ubuntu.com, let me know if you can't find it
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: thats interesting, i always wondered why linux users wanted the different firmware
[12:58] <r00723r0> jrib: ok
[12:58] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know where there is a place that i can see settings for the way the "window list" sizes the opened applications? (like so when i have one window it will take up the whole area.. and 3, each will take up a 3rd..).. any ideas?
[12:58] <MKS> Hillview, you know how to tell the pioneers: they are the ones with the arrows in their back!
[12:58] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Also, if the micro might happen to have the feature we are looking for it could be useful... I will try and find some links for you throughout the day.
[12:58] <MKS> night everyone!
[12:59] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: in dd-wrt you can veen set max connections up from standard 512 to 4096!
[12:59] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I found this helped immensely
[12:59] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: hmm, interesting.
[12:59] <cr3_> cafuego, in any case, why can I change cpu frequency in bios, but can't do it while running ubuntu?
[01:00] <Jowi> Tarkus, that is the job for the window manager. in gnome it is not possible as far as I know to save the size of the window.
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: wouldn't it just be easier to get a netgear or d-link wireless router?
[01:00] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I was having the exact same problems as you and it turned out setting up QoS helped a bunch. If you wish to dive into that either now or while you are using dd-wrt
[01:00] <Riky> Hi, does enyone knows if the Dell Inspiron 6400 its supported to run Ubuntu 7.04?
[01:00] <Skwid_> Jowi: nope, i closed it and saved the session, restarted x, and i still have the window opening when i log back in
[01:00] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I detest D-link with the very drawls in the depts of my dreary heart. Alliteration FTW
[01:00] <jrib> !laptop > Riky (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol.. i always thought D-link was pretty good(i personally use a Netgear wired router, no wireless0
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> )
[01:01] <Riky> thanks jrib
[01:01] <Jell1> hi, I have a rather weird and dangerous problem: In my trash applet, my WHOLE system files appear... It happened last week already, and it made me lose 230Go of data... After posting on forums and without finding an explanation to this, I decided to reinstall my Feisty. Today, it happened again. If I look in my trash applet, I can see everything I have from any of my hard disks. Does anyone have ever heard of something like this? Thanks.
[01:01] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: Best will always still be Cysco. You get what you pay for.
[01:01] <cafuego> cr3_: to 1.4Ghz you mean? I dunno, I'd hazard a buggy bios, which means the kernel can't see all power states.
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: no dout about that.
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> doubt
[01:02] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak:  :)
[01:02] <SimAtWork> Jell1: i have never heard of that before
[01:02] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: what IS a quality of service?
[01:02] <Dunkel_> hello
[01:02] <younghacker> who knows about the FCE Ultra (Nes Emulator) whats the command line to run it
[01:02] <Dunkel_> i need some help
[01:03] <Dunkel_> i have just installed ubunto on my laptop
[01:03] <Dunkel_> but there is no sound :S
[01:03] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: it is a system in which priority is given to certain kinds of traffic between your computer and the router. It essentially keeps things like Azureus and other p2p software from swamping the box with too many connections /sec.
[01:03] <cafuego> cr3_: I guess check and see if there is a newer bios on the manufacturer's website.
[01:03] <cr3_> ok
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: first, its UbuntU.. second, what type of sound device?
[01:03] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: ok, how do i set this up?
[01:03] <Dunkel_> can anyone help me?
[01:04] <younghacker> nobody knows?
[01:04] <RabidWeezle> alright, what file do I edit to change it from loading kdm to gdm?
[01:04] <Jell1> SimAtWork: I guess i'll post a bug report, hope they won't find me crazy.... thanks
[01:04] <cafuego> cr3_: it'd be interesting to see what happens when you set it to 1.4Ghz in the bios and then boot Linux, see what powernow reports *then*
[01:04] <Jowi> omegacenti_, after working at D-Link tech support I detest their products as well :)
[01:04] <Dunkel_> sorry xD... is a... mmm integrated sound card
[01:04] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: for instance, you set gaming ports, web traffic, and any other traffic that is small and desirable to be high priority while setting things like p2p traffic which is bulk traffic to be very low priority.
[01:04] <SimAtWork> Jell1: they are going to find you crazy
[01:04] <jrib> Jell1: they are in your trash right now?
[01:04] <Jell1> SimAtWork: doh ! :)
[01:04] <SimAtWork> Jell1: are the files showing in trash but not in the trash?
[01:04] <omegacenti_> Jowi: Yay! agreement from a mentor! ^_^
[01:04] <Dunkel_> is something like AC'97 or something like that
[01:04] <SimAtWork> Jell1: can you take a screen shot and paste it somewhere?  i'd like to see exactly whatyou're seeing
[01:04] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: ok, now how do i set this up? from the router config page?
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: open a terminal.... type "lspci".... no quotes.... after hitting enter, its gonna spit out some junk about your PCi devices, look for a line like this...  02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12)
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> tell me what that says
[01:05] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: one sec need to access my router.
[01:05] <Jell1> SimAtWork: absolutly, they appear only in the trash-applet, but not in .trash on each partitions.
[01:05] <Jowi> Skwid_, I don't know where to look to be honest. gconf-editor turned up nothing.
[01:05] <SimAtWork> Jell1: but the files aren't actually deleted?
[01:05] <Skwid_> Jowi: ok., thanks anyhow :)
[01:05] <omegacenti_> okay secleinteer first thing off do you know what a speed test is?
[01:05] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: yeah
[01:05] <Jell1> SimAtWork: they are :(  I already lost 230Go...
[01:05] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i found the page in the router config
[01:06] <Dunkel_> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[01:06] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: what do i do now?
[01:06] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Then I would like you to close off anything that is using your connection in any ways and do 3 speed tests and average their results together.
[01:06] <Dunkel_> :D
[01:06] <r00723r0> jrib: you there?
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: ok, hangon
[01:06] <jrib> r00723r0: yep
[01:06] <cr3_> cafuego, it just scales it to MAX, but when I removed cpufreq, it was still 1.4Ghz
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:06] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: do you need exact numbers? because i already know what it is
[01:06] <r00723r0> jrib: my libc6 is too out-of-date to work, and so is my pango
[01:06] <Dunkel_> the newest i think
[01:06] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: 321 kB/s down and 53 kB/s up
[01:07] <jrib> r00723r0: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:07] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: If those are the numbers reported by your ISP than thats no good..
[01:07] <Dunkel_> 7.04
[01:07] <cafuego> cr3_: AMX being 2.8 again?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> well are you or aren't you?
[01:07] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: no, i tested myself to get them
[01:07] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Ah you have already tested extensively.
[01:07] <cr3_> cafuego, but I dont know how to change it without rebooting
[01:07] <Jell1> SimAtWork: I've even made a video to convince people: http://dl.free.fr/17A5S89d/trashmadness.avi
[01:07] <cr3_> cafuego, AMX?
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: system Menu, About Ubuntu
[01:07] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Great! alright one sec while I look at the QoS page.
[01:07] <secleinteer> kk
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> second paragraph will say what version
[01:07] <r00723r0> jrib: how do i check?
[01:07] <Dunkel_> Ubuntu 7.04 - Feisty Fawn
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> dunkel, ok
[01:08] <tritium> r00723r0: lsb_release -a
[01:08] <r00723r0> 7.04
[01:08] <r00723r0> jrib: ^^
[01:08] <cafuego> cr3_: MAX - typo
[01:08] <[agatha] > hum... hi guys... got a tiny question when you have a minute
[01:08] <aliasrush> can two different linux partitions share the same home partition with the same users?
[01:08] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Bleh, just remembered how bland the QoS page on standard firmware for the wrt54g looks... It doesn't have some options but we can still set up something that will work.
[01:08] <Dunkel_> :(
[01:08] <Jell1> [agatha] : don't wait trust me :)
[01:09] <SimAtWork> Jell1: you don't happen to have a cat or something do you? dragging all your files to trash while you sleep? :)
[01:09] <[agatha] > hum... just shoot? so nice
[01:09] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: Okay now I am going by memory and I will need you help with all the different options before you
[01:09] <jrib> r00723r0: hmm, I'm pretty sure the linked deb worked for a few people.  Can you link me to the bug you found?
[01:09] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i can install dd-wrt in that case
[01:09] <secleinteer> do you know anything about that?
[01:09] <Jowi> [agatha] , the more precise you are with the description of your problem the more likely you will get a good answer :)
[01:09] <r00723r0> jrib: there are multiple
[01:09] <Jell1> SimAtWork: I just ate it... might be the dog actually..
[01:10] <r00723r0> but i can show you the download page
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: is that an Acer latop?
[01:10] <buggy> Hi - Does anyone know of a Linux compatible Video capture PCI/card or USB that supports A/V In/Out red/white/yelleow jacks/firewire/s-video, cable - etc?
[01:10] <[agatha] > well look guys got a friend he was trying to install ubuntu... 7.04 from the live cd.. in some point he has had an error and accepted,.. the installation went on but got a black screen and rebooted the system... any hope to recover all the windows partition?
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I am not currently using a wrt54g anyways so it won't help much
[01:10] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: you mean for install dd-wrt?
[01:10] <RabidWeezle> Can anyone tell me what file calls gdm or kdm? I can't seem to find it. KDE changed it to kdm when I installed it, and I want to change it back to gdm since I will be using gnome
[01:10] <Dunkel_> no, it is a gateway one
[01:10] <[agatha] > sorry Jowi  he doesnt even know the error he has had -.-
[01:10] <clarkey> Hi I have a problem with beryl, I have reinstalled feisty and tried to get beryl up and running again I have managed to get it all installed with XGL on a Radeon Mobility chip but now when I right click the icon and select beryl nothing seems to happen it just stays looking and acting like metacity any ideas?
[01:10] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i think i'll just install dd-wrt and get it over with
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I am using a linksys N draft router.
[01:10] <secleinteer> kk
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: sounds good to me
[01:10] <cr3_> cafuego, as I said, ubuntu always scales cpu frequency to Max (2.4-2.8 Ghz - it's max frequency, isn't :P), even if I set speed in BIOS
[01:10] <tritium> RabidWeezle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, and choose gdm
[01:10] <[agatha] > just some error accept andblack screen... installation was not complete tho
[01:10] <Dunkel_> i found a forum in wich they say something about modify a file... i dit it but it still doesnt work
[01:10] <RabidWeezle> clarkey I have the same problem, how much ram you have on that mobility?
[01:10] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: I really enjoyed the dd-wrt software.
[01:11] <toed> how can I set the resolution in DPI of my monitor?
[01:11] <SimAtWork> Jell1: now.. if they're in trash.. can't you just undelete them?
[01:11] <clarkey> I think it may be shared memory but im not sure
[01:11] <SimAtWork> Jell1: btw, your desktop looks so beautiful.
[01:11] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: "dd-wrt.v23_micro_wrt54g.bin" <-- does that look right?
[01:11] <cr3_> cafuego, i'm going to go sleep now - it's 1 am here :P
[01:11] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: No idea :)
[01:11] <secleinteer> damn
[01:11] <cafuego> cr3_: Well, there was a chance MAX would be 1.4 if that's what you set in the bios. I wonder if it's a typo and it's meant to say 2.4 and not 1.4...
[01:11] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: everything I'm reading isn't good.. try reading this link, see if it works..  http://weichen.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/upgrade-to-ubuntu-feisty-solve-some-problems/
[01:11] <Jell1> SimAtWork: How? (oh thanks :)  )
[01:11] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: but it sounds about right... maybe.. don't kill me if its not :(
[01:11] <clarkey> Rabidweezle also I had it working before I reinstalled for other reasons
[01:11] <SimAtWork> Jell1: drag them from trash back to where they belong?
[01:12] <Jell1> SimAtWork: drag them back?
[01:12] <Jowi> [agatha] , hard to give a good answer, but starting windows in recovery mode and run the fixmbr command or similar (you really should ask in ##windows) should fix the boot for windows. appart from that a re-install of ubuntu could also solve it. hard to say with so little info.
[01:12] <Jell1> SimAtWork: i'll try
[01:12] <secleinteer> omegacenti_: i'm going to make sure it's right, i don't want to brick my router
[01:12] <hunterp> i want to take a screen shot, hit ctrl-v and paste the image directly into an email. how can i do this?
[01:12] <omegacenti_> secleinteer: sounds good to me.
[01:12] <RabidWeezle> clarkey how many megs of video ram again?
[01:12] <jrib> hunterp: press PrintScreen to take a screenshot and save it as a file
[01:12] <Dunkel_> let me see :(
[01:12] <ace_suares> Life's Short. Don't Pay for Software.
[01:12] <omegacenti_> jrib: how do you save it as a file.
[01:13] <hunterp> jrib: thats way too many clicks
[01:13] <jrib> omegacenti_: it asks you to when you press PrintScreen
[01:13] <[agatha] > thaks Jowi  ill tell him to try to reinstall and at least get the error... so i can come and ask here... he's got a lot of data he doesnt want to lose... problem is that now windows doesnt boot either... gets stucked inthe begining...so maybe its better to try to reinstall
[01:13] <clarkey> Rabidweezle not sure  how do I check
[01:13] <SimAtWork> Jell1: did it work?
[01:13] <omegacenti_> jrib: WOW! never pushed it in ubuntu before Cool! thanks!
[01:13] <wyth> Curious here -- has anyone got Tracker running?
[01:13] <tritium> toed: DisplaySize
[01:14] <toed> what's that?
[01:14] <tritium> RabidWeezle: did you run that successfully yet?
[01:14] <jrib> r00723r0: this is the bug I was referring to, see the second to last comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/71593
[01:14] <omegacenti_> hey hunterpIt looks as though the screenshot preview is draggable.
[01:14] <tritium> toed: to specify the size of your Display in DPI
[01:14] <ice9> does anyone here xchat
[01:14] <[agatha] > and hum guys i'd need some kind of page with general linux commands and so on... 2 days running ubuntu... and im quite lost
[01:14] <clarkey> Rabidweezle all I can find on it is "RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] "
[01:14] <Jowi> [agatha] , it also depends on what ubuntu install options your friend selected. if (s)he tried to resize the win partition, use all available space on the disk and so on.
[01:14] <omegacenti_> hunterp: It also seems that you might be able to right click it and save it
[01:14] <ice9> does anyone use xchat with fish ?
[01:14] <ice9> I needs a little help
[01:14] <Jell1> SimAtWork: no I can't, because if I open a folder which is in the trash applet, the path change to where it is in reality: the right place. O_o wtf
[01:14] <Jowi> !commands | [agatha] 
[01:14] <ubotu> [agatha] : The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[01:14] <Skwid_> is there a way to have the password for the keyring remembered so that i can connect to my wifi without having to enter my password each session ?????
[01:14] <[agatha] > he tried to resize partitions Jowi
[01:14] <sebas_> !bakery
[01:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bakery - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:14] <RabidWeezle> alright, there is a list clarkey of cards that just do not work for beryl, goto a console and type in lspci and it will show you your exact name for your mobility, and check it on the beryl compatibility list, but there is a cheap hack to getting it working usally, in your xorg.cfg file do a Option "AGPSize" "32" under your ati device, and that will get it working, but I am not suggesting it
[01:15] <tritium> toed: are you using nVidia?  If so, there's a "DPI" option
[01:15] <SimAtWork> Jell1: maybe you should disable that trahs applet? it sounds like it's screwy
[01:15] <jrib> omegacenti_: nice, I didn't know you could do that
[01:15] <ice9> !xchat
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <Jowi> [agatha] , see the last link ubotu spat out. it's quite good.
[01:15] <ice9> !blowfish
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about blowfish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <tritium> !botabuse
[01:15] <ice9> !fish
[01:15] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <omegacenti_> jrib: I fury of clicking has never failed me! :)
[01:15] <RabidWeezle> clarkey sorry, I mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:15] <wyth> do you need to use xchat?  I'm using Pidgin with no trouble
[01:15] <Jell1> SimAtWork: indeed... but why is the question. ... err, i'll report a bug
[01:15] <[agatha] > oki ill bookmark it...to be honest i installed ubuntu in a moment of passion deleted windows from my hd... and now well i like it but im lost :P
[01:15] <clarkey> Rabidweezle thanks
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> wyth: pidgin sucks for irc.. use xchat, xchat-gnome, or irssi
[01:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: not konversation?
[01:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: Is Xchat good?
[01:16] <wyth> why does Pidgin suck for it?  It's working fine for me -- I'm on it  now
[01:16] <[agatha] > pretty good yes omegacenti_
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i consider any KDE app, except amarok, :), the DEVIL...lol
[01:16] <omegacenti_> Jowi: What do you use for IRC?
[01:16] <RabidWeezle> but if you don't have a decent amount of video ram clarkey, you will want to kill all uneeded effects else it will run slower than frozen mallassas
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i like xchat-gnome, but some don't.. xchat is good to though..
[01:16] <Jowi> omegacenti_, xchat (the non-gnome version)
[01:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: lol why? <Im still new to linux>
[01:16] <clarkey> Rabidweezle ok
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> irssi is for the tweaker inside all of us.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: KDE to me, 1.  Looks like my 5yr old nephew deisgned the graphics.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> 2.  Its slower than thanksgiving dinner
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> 3.  ITS SLOWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwww
[01:17] <omegacenti_> Any reason to use the gnome version over the non gnome?
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> 4.  ITS SLOWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:17] <xjkx> when remotely vncing a machine, the user cant use accent keys, whats wrong? i mean, keyboard special characters :/
[01:17] <omegacenti_> I get the point.
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i like the interface of the xchat-gnome better than xchat.
[01:17] <Jell1> SimAtWork: do you know another way to empty the trash without having to take ./trash one by one?
[01:17] <sebas_> how do I run libbakery?
[01:17] <Skwid_> is there a way to have the password for the keyring remembered so that i can connect to my wifi without having to enter my password each session ?????
[01:18] <omegacenti_> xjkx: Does the right click menu have anything like "use special characters" ?
[01:18] <wyth> IndyGunFreak: What's Pidgin's problem in irc?
[01:18] <wobx> re
[01:18] <Dunkel_> still no sound :(
[01:18] <SimAtWork> Jell1: find out where the trahs folder is and mv it out from cli?
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> wyth: no problem at all, i just think it absolutely sucks compared to an actual irc client, if you like it, by all means, use it.
[01:18] <wyth> Skwid_: you need the pam keyring
[01:18] <Skwid_> wyth: huh ?
[01:18] <wyth> let me get a link
[01:18] <omegacenti_> !xchat
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:19] <omegacenti_> Ill look for it in the repositories.
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: ok....  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/107777    read it and weep
[01:19] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: How does it compare to mIRC?
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: its pretty similar. i guess, its been a gazillion years since i used mirc.
[01:19] <Jell1> SimAtWork: hum... I have trash folders in /home, /Bigmama, /whatever etc... btw what is "cli"?
[01:19] <clarkey> Rabidweezle where do I find this list?
[01:19] <SimAtWork> Jell1: command line interface
[01:19] <[agatha] > been 2 years here IndyGunFreak... pretty much the same
[01:19] <IndyGunFreak> Jell1: command line interface
[01:19] <[agatha] > *2 days
[01:19] <Gabey> whats a good alternative for skype, or is it the best program so far?
[01:19] <Jell1> ok
[01:20] <AlexSeif> Hi I'm having problems understanding firehol, I need to set it up so that i can use php, mysql and apache
[01:20] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : So if I realy liked mIRC then I would like Xchat?
[01:20] <AlexSeif> I'm also having problems with vi
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : yeah, i doubt there's much difference.
[01:20] <AlexSeif> so please instruct me with somehing easy
[01:20] <wyth> Skwid_: sudo aptitude install libpam-keyring
[01:20] <[agatha] > omegacenti_,  i would say so.. i used mirc while on windows... now xchat... pretty much the same yes omegacenti_
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> vi?
[01:20] <N3XU5> ups. perdon..
[01:20] <tritium> !es | N3XU5
[01:20] <jrib> aliasrush: yes, though if you are running different versions of programs the config files may not work well on both versions
[01:20] <ubotu> N3XU5: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:20] <AlexSeif> vi
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: or xchat-gnome.
[01:20] <omegacenti_> thanks to both of you [agatha]  IndyGunFreak :)
[01:20] <Skwid_> wyth: thank you, do i need to do anything else ?
[01:20] <wyth> Skwid_: then do this: echo "@include common-pamkeyring" | sudo tee -a /etc/pam.d/gdm
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> xchat-gnome, its sound function is easier to set up than xchats
[01:21] <N3XU5> hmn.. sorry.
[01:21] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I will download both and try both out for a few hours.
[01:21] <marfeath> How can I get the url of a page that i am redirected to? (through command line only)
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i'm sur eyou'll like one of the two.
[01:21] <wyth> Swid_: It's under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:21] <[agatha] > yeap omegacenti_  i changed to xchat from xchat-ubuntu... but all is on tastes
[01:21] <AlexSeif> hello
[01:21] <Gabey> whats best? skype or is there an alternative?
[01:21] <AlexSeif> anybody knows firehol
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : xchat-ubuntu?
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> never heard of that one
[01:21] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Hmm... Do you remember your exact reasons why you switched?
[01:21] <cafuego> Gabey: There is no alternatively that runs the skype protocol, afaik.
[01:22] <[agatha] > dunno it was different of the normal xchat
[01:22] <AlexSeif> ok I'll come back later
[01:22] <wyth> Gabey: Skype's the most common, but there are others.  But you won't be able to talk to others who are on Skype
[01:22] <[agatha] > yes omegacenti_  i couldnt see the userlist
[01:22] <Jell1> SimAtWork: err... nah i don't get it. what do you mean by finding the trash. And if I find it and delete it, I'll lose all my files, no?
[01:22] <ice9> xchat and fish anyone
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : you sure it wan't xchat-gnome?
[01:22] <Gabey> cafuego and wyth: thanks
[01:22] <SimAtWork> Jell1: i really dunno, i'm confused :(
[01:22] <Dunkel_> wot should i do ?
[01:22] <SimAtWork> Jell1: and i have to go!
[01:22] <[agatha] > hum maybe IndyGunFreak ... probably in fact :P im a bit all messed up right at the moment... the one which came by default
[01:22] <wyth> Lemme ask again: Anyone got Tracker working?
[01:22] <[agatha] > so prolly was xchat-gnome
[01:22] <Jell1> SimAtWork: no pb, thanks anyway ;)
[01:22] <SimAtWork> Jell1: but if they're in trash they should be recoverable still.
[01:23] <Dunkel_> please help me.... is that about the drivers?
[01:23] <jrib> !anyone | wyth
[01:23] <ubotu> wyth: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:23] <kitsune> greyfrog: are you here?
[01:23] <SimAtWork> bye all
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : lol, no sweat, yeah, xchat-gnome comes with Ubuntu by default.
[01:23] <Jell1> SimAtWork: i hope :)
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[01:23] <omegacenti_> If I wanted to completely erase my Windows partition and somehow use the free space in its space to enlarge my current linux partition, could I do it?
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> if that doesn't work, you're probably hosed for the time being
[01:23] <[agatha] > hzhah IndyGunFreak  sorry again :P 2 days struggling with this... and im kind of a duck windows user... we'll see how the adventure ends up :D
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: i think gparted will do that for you
[01:23] <[agatha] > omegacenti_,  i did it :P
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: sudo aptitude gparted
[01:24] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: is gparted gui or cl?
[01:24] <[agatha] > windows died :D
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: VERY gui...lol
[01:24] <Dunkel_> indygunfreak: im trying that but i dont understand the part of the alsa :S
[01:24] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: I hate to say it but GUI's make me happy.
[01:24] <tritium> cool
[01:24] <wyth> ubotu: Okey dokey:  I had Tracker installed from repository.  It indexed everything.  Today I booted and it finds nothing, not even the stuff it showed before.  I'm wondering if anyone else had this problem, and if there's any fixes.  I tried installing the svn version, but I'm completely new to that stuff, and can't get trackerd to start
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: nothing wrong with that, they make me happy to..
[01:24] <davey_> can someone help me with azuris
[01:24] <davey_> it's not working
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: sorry, i can't be more help, i found several sites on your sound card, and all of them said they couldn't ge it to work
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: follow his instructions, they ar equite detailed.
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Dunkel_: what do you man you don't understand alsamixer?
[01:25] <omegacenti_> Okay so my agenda is: turning off trackmouse, deleting windows, using xchat... am I forgetting something?
[01:25] <petriborg> hello, is there a place i can find the list of default ubuntu entries that appear in /etc/passwd?
[01:26] <Ubuntu_CN> my computer run good
[01:26] <jrib> wyth: is trackerd running?
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> better than your english.. ;)
[01:26] <Ubuntu_CN> ok, my english is poor
[01:26] <petriborg> maybe it lives somewhere on the ubuntu live CD?
[01:26] <Dunkel_> the alsadrivers
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> Ubuntu_CN: i'm just razzin you, relax
[01:27] <wyth> jrib: nope -- when I started trackerd, I got: "file tracker-db-sqlite.c: line 450 (tracker_db_initialize): assertion failed: (False)"
[01:27] <magnetron> petriborg: hacking Ubuntu boxes, are you?
[01:27] <s3phiroth> hi there. what's the best ubuntu channel to ask about a problem with apache on feisty ?
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> dunkel... type this.. "/join #indygunfreak" no quotes
[01:28] <magnetron> s3phiroth: ask your question
[01:28] <jrib> wyth: haven't seen that.  I would google for that error and if nothing turns up, rename ~/.Tracker/ to ~/.Tracker.backup
[01:28] <petriborg> magnetron - obviously i'm trying to make sure *i'm* not hacked...
[01:28] <omegacenti_> Alright, wish me luck.. deleting my windows partition :)
[01:28] <[agatha] > hehe omegacenti_  good luck :D
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: Good luck....lol
[01:28] <s3phiroth> well basically, mod_rewrite isn't working. I upgraded this machine from edgy to feisty. now i needed it, i enabled it (sudo a2enmod rewrite), restarted apache and nothing
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> push comes to shove, just do a new insall, and takeover the whole drive
[01:29] <omegacenti_> I can hear something screaming in my laptop...
[01:29] <s3phiroth> i've already checked the symlinks on the mods_enabled directory and they're okay
[01:29] <wyth> jrib: I think I'm going to wipe everything and reinstall.  Tracker has some amazing potential, it impresses me far more than Beagle, but it takes some TLC setting up
[01:29] <[agatha] > my fan screams from time to time omegacenti_  xD
[01:29] <wyth> wipe all the Tracker stuff, that is
[01:29] <omegacenti_> oh? I just thought it was the soul of windows dying...
[01:29] <s3phiroth> already tried adding RewriteEngine On
[01:29] <jrib> wyth: well renaming .Tracker to .Tracker.backup essentially does that
[01:30] <wyth> jrib: I already removed /.Tracker when I tried to compile from svn, so it's gone.  What I noticed is after I compiled, those files didn't show up -- no tracker.cfg or anything.
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> my PCs/laptop lost their copies of Windows, long, long ago..
[01:30] <omegacenti_> Hmm, It doesn't seem like it wants to let me unmount sda1 (NTFS partition) Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mountpoints. You are advised to unmount them manually.
[01:30] <omegacenti_> Any suggestions?
[01:30] <wyth> jrib: Do you have Tracker up and running?
[01:31] <jrib> wyth: and you started trackerd up again?  Yeah, I have it running here
[01:31] <[agatha] > cant help omegacenti_  i deleted my windows partition on installing... from the live cd sorry
[01:31] <[agatha] > its a hard step anyway IndyGunFreak
[01:31] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Doh.
[01:31] <[agatha] > i was so pissed off that told him to install in c/ straight away
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : yeah, believe it or not, i tried LInux for about 2.5yrs, before finally ridding myself of the dreaded M$ virus
[01:31] <s3phiroth> oh, and by the way: phpinfo() says mod_rewrite is enabled
[01:32] <erisco> Does anyone know of a bin2iso package? If so, what is the name of it? I have searched the respositories without any luck - perhaps I am missing the one I need
[01:32] <omegacenti_> Gah! can I force an unmount?
[01:32] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, did you like it at that time?
[01:32] <erisco> omegacenti_, sudo umount doesn't work?
[01:32] <[agatha] > hum i didnt... tried suse for a while, didnt like it... got desperate with windows and installed the ubuntu live cd... still afraid of what's gonna happen.. i read you guys an seems to meyou are speaking japanese -.-
[01:33] <bout> I usb connected my new HP photosmart C3180 to my os, howver it wont print, although its conected, how can I go about troubleshooting?
[01:33] <omegacenti_> erisco: I didnt try it... how would I unmount sda1 with that command?
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, sudo umount /sda1
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, I think
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: iliked it, but i had a LOT of trouble with it.
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, just type in $ mount and see what it is mounted as
[01:33] <omegacenti_> anyone disagree with erisco?
[01:33] <jrib> erisco: bchunk should do that (let you convert .bin to .iso)
[01:33] <bout> pherhaps the drivers arent loaded pls help
[01:33] <erisco> omegacenti_, it won't blow anything up :P
[01:33] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, so what did you do
[01:33] <wyth> jrib: yeah, I ran trackerd.  The sequence was: A.) Installed from aptitude; B.) Indexed and everything was great; C.) Booted this morning, it found nothing; D.) Wiped it completely out, tried to compile from svn; E.) After compile, certain files I had after the previous install weren't there, and when I ran trackerd from the command line, I got the funky error
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> first distro i got to work almost completely, was PCLinuxOS .92...
[01:33] <ethereal> it would be: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[01:33] <erisco> jrib, thanks. I will try
[01:34] <omegacenti_> erisco: I have no idea how to implement "$ mount". Mind clarifying?
[01:34] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, "almost completely" -> quantify.
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: i just kept trying...tried many distros between, but i landed on xandros(bought it at compusa)... i liked it, used it for about 4mo, but couldn't get my TV card working
[01:34] <jrib> wyth: try running the repository one instead of svn
[01:34] <erisco> ethereal, I have been able to umount cdroms just as /cdrom and not /media/cdrom... IIRC. Doesn't really matter though :D
[01:34] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: tv card wouldn't work, my video card would act goofy on occasion, etc.
[01:34] <erisco> omegacenti_, when something starts with that dollar sign it means to put it into your terminal :P
[01:34] <kbrooks> IndyGunFreak, and now  ... ?
[01:34] <foso> hey, im getting ready to install feisty on a old laptop, it only has a 3.81 gig hd, is that enough?
[01:34] <Ubuntu_CN> what's the best software about ire?
[01:34] <wyth> jrib: think I will.  Pizza's here -- gotta run.  Cheers.
[01:34] <M_42> I have a weird issue I am trying to share a folder with SMB, my win2k box can see the ubuntu box on workgroup but it says it needs a password
[01:35] <omegacenti_> erisco: oooo nifty... shows what everything is and where.. nice
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> kbrooks: well, then i tried FC5, after tryin ga couople between xandros and FC5... kept FC5,for about 5mo, but could never get my tv card working
[01:35] <omegacenti_> erisco: I am new but love to learn :)
[01:35] <erisco> omegacenti_, yes it does. You should see where sda1 is mounted
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> then i found Ubuntu(which I'd tried before, but it always locked up my system. around breezy)
[01:35] <tritium> M_42: have you run smbpasswd to give your user a samba password on the ubuntu box?
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> so i installed Dapper, and i been a *buntu freak ever since
[01:35] <xmatt> hello
[01:37] <xmatt> lol
[01:37] <M_42> tritium is that  cli command
[01:37] <tritium> M_42: yes
[01:37] <M_42> k thanks
[01:37] <foso> anyone? is 3.81gigs enough for ubuntu?
[01:37] <omegacenti_> LOL they are GONE
[01:37] <xmatt> I'm totally new to ubuntu
[01:37] <premier_> hi, what the command line call for the gnome settings manager thing?
[01:37] <xmatt> I last used red hat 2.6...
[01:37] <omegacenti_> no more windows... I don't care what I lose, I am free!
[01:37] <M_42> Could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[01:37] <Orfeous> i want to see my cpu temperature on my computer.. i have tried "lm-sensors" and loaded the detected modules.. but "sensors" tells me that it cant find any available sensors.. :P
[01:37] <M_42> :C
[01:37] <Orfeous> the same to "mbmon"
[01:37] <tritium> premier_: gconf-editor
[01:37] <xmatt> hi underwatercow
[01:37] <Orfeous> i have a Asus PB Premium Vista edition
[01:37] <underwatercow> xmatt: hello
[01:37] <omegacenti_> Now, it seems that I cannot resize my linux partition... any reason why I cannot? can you resize a mounted partition?
[01:37] <Orfeous> Asus P5B Premium Vista edition
[01:37] <xmatt> I duel boot ubuntu with vista
[01:37] <[agatha] > i think you need to umount it first to do that omegacenti_ ... but not sure anyway
[01:37] <magnetron> omegacenti_: you need to unmount it
[01:37] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : magnetron, can I unmount it while still in linux?
[01:38] <marfeath> How can I use grep to find a certain occurance of a pattern (specifically the third)
[01:38] <magnetron> omegacenti_: you can do that from the ubuntu live cd
[01:38] <erisco> jrib, I don't mean to sound lazy but I have been beating around the bchunk command and I just cannot get it to go through... I have $bchunk image.bin image.iso
[01:38] <LjL> omegacenti_: doing operations on partitions (or, for that matter, filesystem integrity checking) on mounted filesystems will, if the program doing it doesn't refuse to do it in the first place, result in serious data corruption.
[01:38] <wulfy814> I'd like to install backuppc 3.0 from testing, how can I install just this one app without modifying my sources ?
[01:38] <premier_> tritium: I'm looking for a solution to an alsa issue, but the only fix I can find uses "gnome settings"... however I'm in kde... how get gnome settings?
[01:38] <ww_> #lublin
[01:38] <jrib> erisco: you need a .cue as well I believe.  I've never used it
[01:38] <erisco> jrib, hold on I think I got it
[01:38] <magnetron> marfeath: you may have to use a more advanced tool, like perl or similar
[01:38] <LjL> marfeath: use head and tail with grep
[01:39] <omegacenti_> LjL: can I unmount it and still be running linux?
[01:39] <tritium> premier_: gconf-editor, as I told you
[01:39] <LjL> omegacenti_: not if it's your root partition
[01:39] <erisco> jrib, reading the man pages it seems it wants an iso or cue or raw, and then a basename for the iso
[01:39] <omegacenti_> LjL: It is :(
[01:39] <omegacenti_> LjL: Live cd then?
[01:39] <LjL> omegacenti_: then you need to use a live CD
[01:39] <marfeath> LjL, Thanks I'll try that
[01:39] <omegacenti_> magnetron: LjL Thanks :)
[01:39] <[agatha] > omegacenti_,  didnt you say it was your windows partition?
[01:39] <erisco> how do you get out of a man page?!?
[01:39] <s3phiroth> erisco: q
[01:39] <LjL> erisco: hit Q
[01:39] <erisco> q, got it
[01:39] <erisco> tlol
[01:39] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : No I just destroyed that.
[01:39] <magnetron> erisco: q for quit
[01:40] <marfeath> magnetron, This will likely be used on embeded devices, so I would like to keep perl out of it.  I might break down and use c though
[01:40] <sldkfj> erisco, open another terminal or file / tab
[01:40] <[agatha] > ah ok ok... i think im gonna leave you guys... too much info for my neurones
[01:40] <s3phiroth> so, anybody else having problems with mod_rewrite ?
[01:40] <Orfeous> please any suggestions? :)
[01:40] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Lol hope your nuerons get to feeling better
[01:40] <erisco> jrib, my assumption was wrong... I don't even know what a cue file is
[01:40] <M_42> tritium, how do I set the username
[01:40] <M_42> ?
[01:40] <magnetron> marfeath: embedded? nice. big project?
[01:41] <[agatha] > haha omegacenti_  been a tough couple of last days... i think sleeping will help anyway :P
[01:41] <magnetron> [agatha] : ahhh... sleeping
[01:41] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Unfortunately my triceps do not think sleep helps...
[01:41] <[agatha] > oh men!
[01:41] <erisco> jrib, ah, I learn a cue file has all the track locations
[01:42] <[agatha] > sleeping is one of the biggest pleasures in life guys :P
[01:42] <omegacenti_> I haven't been able to move my arms properly in 4 days... Just got back into the gym... It hurts so BAD!
[01:42] <marfeath> magnetron, I'm writing a script to bypass my schools wireless authentication system for our robotics students
[01:42] <cjae_> Ok I have a huge problem my onboard ethernet (intelpro100) died or appears to have died so I replaced with an smc 10/100 pci nic
[01:42] <erisco> jrib, I have a huge problem though! No cue files! :(
[01:42] <[agatha] > haha omegacenti_  try some sugar after exercise :P
[01:42] <jrib> erisco: if you google around for that problem, I think you can create the cue file
[01:42] <cjae_> the nic has a realtek chip in it so the 8139too module works but now my xservers are messed up
[01:42] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Really?
[01:42] <Punkunity> I just installed PSPVC and the PSP manager sytem, and i have no idea where they are installed on my computer.....does anyone know how to find them, they arent in my applications section....???
[01:42] <[agatha] > yup omegacenti_  that or half an aspirine :)
[01:42] <icanic> hello ppl
[01:42] <icanic> can someone help me
[01:42] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Hah! I might try that! thanks!
[01:42] <icanic> I'm new with linux
[01:43] <cjae_> I have two screens with an nvidia card one is tv out svideo and the other is a normal 15 " crt
[01:43] <M_42> I found it
[01:43] <M_42> :D
[01:43] <M_42> yay
[01:43] <M_42> thanks
[01:43] <omegacenti_> [agatha] : Until then I will keep trying to toss the ibuprofens in the general direction of my mouth.
[01:43] <sldkfj> icanic, yes, that is an affliction many have
[01:43] <magnetron> marfeath: i am so eager to know how you could bypass a wifi security system with grep!
[01:43] <cjae_> I now only have the monitor but it has the tvout screen settings and nothing else, wt*
[01:43] <icanic> an someone tell me how can I install beryl on ubuntu 7.04
[01:43] <Punkunity> anyone?? know where programs get installed to usually??
[01:43] <icanic> ?
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> icanic: sudo apt-get install beryl
[01:44] <magnetron> marfeath: join #ubuntu-offtopic and tell me
[01:44] <sldkfj> icanic, join #Beryl
[01:44] <erisco> does anyone know how to create a cue file for a bin file? Can this be done?
[01:44] <icanic> but I don't know what file I must download?
[01:44] <Punkunity> like when i install a gmae it goes into games section, when i installed PSPVC i thought it would go into sound and video??? i am on feisty??
[01:44] <Punkunity> anyone??
[01:44] <[agatha] > Punkunity, didnt getthat... i guess in /home
[01:44] <sldkfj> icanic, see crdlb in #Beryl
[01:44] <erisco> jrib, I am googling =\ my key words seem to suck. "linux create cue for bin"
[01:44] <icanic> thx
[01:44] <jrib> erisco: I did:  bin "no cue"
[01:45] <Punkunity> ok [agatha]  i found one of the programs, but how do i find the other???? i dont know how o start up a program that isnt in the applications menu??
[01:45] <cjae_> Punkunity, the executable for the app wil be in /usr/bin
[01:45] <erisco> jrib: http://www.shivaranjan.com/2007/01/03/how-to-create-cue-file-for-a-bin-file-in-5-steps/ seem valid?
[01:45] <[agatha] > Punkunity,  you should be able to run it from the shell just typing the name of the program... sthat way should get started
[01:45] <[agatha] > i think
[01:45] <[agatha] > not sure tho...
[01:46] <Punkunity> hmmm....ok ty cjae_ and [agatha] 
[01:46] <Punkunity> i am re-installing PSDPVC just to be safe
[01:46] <jrib> erisco: yeah, except for the "notepad" part :)
[01:46] <[agatha] > try  just to type PSDPVC from the shell... might work Punkunity
[01:46] <erisco> jrib, well I have wine for notepad if I was that desperate :P
[01:47] <aztracker1> if I were to go through using wine, i'd use crimson editor.
[01:47] <cjae_> Punkunity, the apt-get thing doesn't always make a link to the executable on your applications menu
[01:47] <aztracker1> not notepad.
[01:47] <Quintin> How do I uninstall gaim?
[01:48] <erisco> jrib, it is working :D
[01:48] <[agatha] > applications .- install / uninstall programs Quintin ?
[01:48] <cjae_> Punkunity, you can do it yourself by editing the gnome menu
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: just sudo apt-get remove gaim
[01:49] <BigToe> 10-42 from me guys, 10-42.
[01:49] <jrib> erisco: great
[01:49] <Punkunity> cjae_, how do i edit the gnome menu??? sounds complicated, i wish that i would install something, then it would ask where i want the shortcut to it placed, is that so much to ask??
[01:49] <cjae_> Punkunity, r click on the menu, edit, point new menu entry to executable in /usr/bin
[01:49] <[agatha] > well guys my bed is yelling at me :p ill come back with more questions :D see ya
[01:49] <Quintin> Then I have to remove ubuntu-desktop.  stupid
[01:50] <cjae_> Punkunity, yell at the ubuntu package managers
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: no you don't..t hats a dummy package, don't worry abou tit.
[01:50] <jrib> Punkunity: if you installed a gui application using APT and it does not have a menu item, it is a bug.  Please file it.  You can right-click on the ubuntu icon and click "edit menus" to edit the menu
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: just sudo apt-get remove gaim, and gaim will be removed, and your desktop will be fine
[01:51] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: Yes, I do have to remove it.  Try it yourself hotshot.
[01:51] <cjae_> Punkunity, as a follow up most cli apps do not have a menu entry
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: why do you ant to uninstall GAIM?
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: well, you obviouskly know everything, so i won't bother helping you.. good luck.. hotshot
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> but trust me, no it won't be removed
[01:51] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: because I don't use it.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: ok..
[01:51] <Quintin> The following packages will be REMOVED: gaim nautilus-sendto ubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <cjae_> anyone help me with my problem
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: are you deaf?..
[01:52] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: excuse me?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> nothing.
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> good luck hotshot.
[01:52] <Punkunity> why the heck does ubuntu have such a hard time multitasking?? my desktop keeps freezing like 3 times a day
[01:52] <omegacenti_> jrib: So I should file about gparted then?
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Punkunity: ?.. i do like 12 things at once on a 1ghz laptop..lol,no probs
[01:52] <Punkunity> i am about to go back to windows soon, ubuntu is seeming so unstable, and everything i do on here is a biotch
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Punkunity: howmuch ram do you have, processor speed, etc?
[01:53] <jrib> omegacenti_: gparted ends up with a menu item in system > administration I believe
[01:53] <Punkunity> 512 RAm 3.2GHZ P4
[01:53] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: you're an idiot.  bye.
[01:53] <Punkunity> with hyperthreading
[01:53] <omegacenti_> jrib: Oh thanks :) I thought it would go in application system tools.
[01:53] <Quintin> Punkunity: Have you tried running top in a terminal?
[01:53] <Quintin> Punkunity: Turn off hyperthreading in the BIOS.
[01:53] <Punkunity> Quintin, i ahve no idea wehat that means
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: lol, i'm an idiot?.. i know how to uninstall gaim..lol
[01:53] <memimo> Hi all!  Is there any body who could help me?  I had a problem with my hard disk so that fsck caused to error during boot. I couldn't fix it so I reinstalled ubuntu. now my disk is mounted as sda. I want to know why it is not hda since it is my laptop only hard dsik
[01:53] <Punkunity> but ubuntu needs to get more withit, maybe its beryl or comiz crashing my computer
[01:53] <Quintin> Punkunity: Reboot your computer, hit F2 F8 F4 whatever to get into the BIOS, and disable hyperthreading.
[01:54] <omegacenti_> jrib: Yeah, its under the name "Gnome partition manager"
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> Punkunity: he's upset cuz i told him his answer, and for whatever reason, he doesn't believ eme
[01:54] <jrib> omegacenti_: yep
[01:54] <Punkunity> Quintin, whats wrong with HT??
[01:54] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: I'm upset because you're a frikkin' idiot.  I wont' discuss it further
[01:54] <cjae_> hello
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: lol, ok.
[01:54] <Quintin> Punkunity: It's not going to make anything run faster, and it's going to make some things crash.  Just turn it off
[01:54] <Punkunity> i NEVER had any problems with my computer AT ALL, until i got ubuntu instead of windows
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: if you don't mind me asking, what would be the apt-get command to remove gaim?.. sudo apt-get remove gaim?
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:55] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: yes
[01:55] <Punkunity> Quintin, `that doesnt really help me out???
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: who's the idiot?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[01:55] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: You claimed it wouldn't remove ubuntu-desktop.  it does
[01:55] <icanic> can someone tell me what is the server address for ICQ?
[01:55] <jrib> Quintin, IndyGunFreak: please stop with the idiot stuff, just ignore one another please.
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: BECAUSE IT WONT
[01:55] <memimo> Hi all!  Is there any body who could help me?  I had a problem with my hard disk so that fsck caused to error during boot. I couldn't fix it so I reinstalled ubuntu. now my disk is mounted as sda. I want to know why it is not hda since it is my laptop only hard dsik
[01:55] <Quintin> IndyGunFreak: Obviously, it does.
[01:55] <Punkunity> so now lets get back to the editing my gnome menu [agatha] 
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: obviousloy you're mistaken
[01:55] <omegacenti_> net split?
[01:56] <cjae_> Punkunity, linux is much better than windows ONLY when you know what you are doing or have the capability of fixing things
[01:56] <Quintin> Punkunity: You haven't even tried it yet.
[01:56] <s3phiroth> *g* i have no idea what i've done. mod_rewrite is working again
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin:  you
[01:56] <[agatha] > Punkunity,  that wasnt me... i suggested you to run it from the console... i dont know how to make such things
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: you're going to get that "remove ubuntu-desktop" no matter what package you remove, so be prepared to remove nothing
[01:56] <kbreit> I am trying to install 7.04 and the installer boot sequence seems to be taking 10 or so minutes each boot.
[01:56] <monteiro> Punkunity : try changing your kernel version, to a before version
[01:56] <cjae_> Punkunity, other than that it may just be a big headache
[01:56] <[agatha] > just can tell you that you should be able to start programs from your console Punkunity
[01:57] <Punkunity> cjae_, i know it is, but why does everything have to be so complicated with all this code, i like point, click, done, ya know, i dont wwanna know how all the code works
[01:57] <Punkunity> [agatha] , ty
[01:57] <cjae_> Punkunity, you must invest time in learning the linux learning curve which is too much for some ppl
[01:57] <[agatha] > sorry bout that Punkunity  just trying to read and learn something today before i go to bed :D
[01:57] <cjae_> Punkunity,  I suggest you get mac if sick of wondows
[01:57] <novato_br> is the  microsoft?
[01:57] <novato_br> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqayAVz5Xg
[01:57] <Punkunity> i have invested hours everyday for 2 months cjae_ how much more time do i need to learn??
[01:58] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: Its gettin better :) eventually Linux will get all of the bugs out. :)
[01:58] <Punkunity> windows took me like 2 minutes to learn
[01:58] <kbreit> Punkunity: What's your problem?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> cjae_: why would you suggest that?
[01:58] <Punkunity> i hate apple
[01:58] <Punkunity> and i hate MS even more, i am just pointing out the obvious
[01:58] <cjae_> Punkunity, i have been at it for years and still suck
[01:58] <[agatha] > cmon Punkunity ... my 5 years old nephew uses windows :P
[01:58] <cjae_> because apple is way better than windows
[01:58] <cjae_> viruses and everything
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:59] <Punkunity> i tried switching a few of my freinds to linux, and they did it, and then it scared them off, ubuntu better do something soon, cause the OS war is almost lost for them for good, ubuntu is linux's l;ast hope
[01:59] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: its not the ease of use for average joe for Windows, its once you stop being average that windows is so horrible.
[01:59] <hanasaki> would someone look at my pastbin / iptables dump.... why is port 2049 tcp on eth1 being rejected?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24785/
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> sldkjf has a great exit mesage
[01:59] <[agatha] > true IndyGunFreak
[01:59] <cjae_> plus it took me getting told I couldn't do it many times before I knuckled down
[01:59] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: I don't see linux losing any battles :)
[01:59] <Punkunity> omegacenti_, i agree, and i will never go back to just windows, and if ubuntu gets some real top-shelf games, then i will never gogto winows
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : some people are just creative, i don't even know what mine says.
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> maybe i should put.. "to remove gaim, sudo apt-get remove gaim"
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:00] <omegacenti_> Punkunity: Sounds like we are in the same ocean.
[02:00] <cjae_> I would strongly agree with omegacenti_
[02:00] <Punkunity> cjae_, can you help me please with getting these 2 programs into the app menu
[02:00] <[agatha] > i think mine just says "quit" IndyGunFreak  or leaving... something like that
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> slackmagic: it gets quiet around 2-3am....
[02:00] <Punkunity> lol omegacenti_ somewhere
[02:00] <[agatha] > ahaha IndyGunFreak
[02:00] <Jared|Linux> I have dapper drake installed yet it doesn't show that I can update to feisty in the notification bar...doesn't that usually show up as an update?
[02:00] <cjae_> Punkunity, I told you how already
[02:00] <Punkunity> cjae_, i need step by clicking step
[02:00] <loco_aullador> Hi, i'd like to copy one 40gb hdd to another of 80 gb but i've read that the 2 hdd should have the same size, so i cant use the dd command....anyone knows what i can do?
[02:00] <Punkunity> i am in edit menus now
[02:01] <omegacenti_> All I want is binaries for games in linux... that would make life bliss and I would NEVER buy another microsoft product again.
[02:01] <cjae_> Punkunity, r click the ubuntu menu
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: it's just a metapackage
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: right, as ubuntu-desktop is simply a meta-package
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: you're not paying attention to what we're saying...
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> lol.. THANK YOU
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: read what I told you above.
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: it doesn't
[02:01] <enzo> hey I'm trying to run Ubuntu on my computer but it is old, crappy and and having problems turning on. Can anyone help me?
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: not in the general case.  You must have something specific to your situation gone awry
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: did you read what I said above?
[02:01] <slackmagic> Punkunity: you said you never had a problem at all with windows and that ubuntu has been giving you problems ever since you took off windows and installed ubuntu - the logical part here for you is to just remove ubuntu and go back to windows..as simple as that :P
[02:01] <tritium> ouch, only 512?
[02:01] <Punkunity> im there but what now, this edit menu doesnt make sense to me cjae_
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: be nice
[02:01] <Dunkel_> someone helps me with my sound device :(
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: i tried to tell him 3x, he called me a moron..lol
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: it's not ubuntu.  You're running unstable stuff like beryl and compiz.  Why do you think that's not enabled by default yet?
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: warning
[02:01] <cjae_> Punkunity, then create the new entry whatever it is you may have to press add or whatever
[02:01] <tritium> Punkunity: again, it's not ubuntu, it's likely beryl and/or compiz
[02:01] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: please stop
[02:01] <tritium> Quintin: IT DOES NOT. READ WHAT I'VE WRITTEN TO YOU
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: i did stop.
[02:02] <tritium> Quintin: you are mistaken, and you're spamming the channel.  Please stop now.
[02:02] <Punkunity> shut it slackmagic lol
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> he's the person who can't figure it out.
[02:02] <slackmagic> Punkunity: just trying to help :D
[02:02] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: he's ignored everthing I've told him too, but we still have to avide by the Code of Conduct...
[02:02] <Punkunity> i dont get it cjae_
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: i have,
[02:02] <belgarath_> anyone know how to control windowplacements...  I want my apps remember where I put it last time...
[02:02] <omegacenti_> What is compiz?
[02:02] <omegacenti_> !compiz
[02:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:02] <omegacenti_> nm :)
[02:02] <cjae_> Punkunity, I can not step by step you cause it am not even using ubuntu right now
[02:02] <Punkunity> tritium, thats what i was thinking, and im going to turn off HT
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> ahhhhhhhhh
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> sorry..
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> i'll be quiet
[02:03] <cjae_> Punkunity, pick the section you want the new entry under and then add it
[02:03] <cjae_> Punkunity, like apps games or whatever
[02:03] <Quintin> Wow
[02:03] <omegacenti_> I need to go find my dvd rom drive for my laptop... damn removable drives...
[02:03] <Quintin> ubuntu users are so stupid :)
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[02:04] <belgarath_> anyone know how to control window-placements...  I want my apps remember where I put it last time...
[02:04] <omegacenti_> Quintin: That as a shot at everyone and that kind of think does not make it very desirable to help you.  Quit with the sweeping genralizations please.
[02:04] <Quintin> pfft.
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol, not to mention we were all right.
[02:04] <s3phiroth> is this troll night ?
[02:04] <omegacenti_> Quintin: That was rude.
[02:04] <cjae_> then you presss the browse button for the command and point it to /usr/src/whatever the app is
[02:04] <cjae_> Punkunity,
[02:04] <PriceChild> Lets move on please Quintin
[02:05] <Siph0n> when sending a file from your phone to your computer over bluetooth, does anything show on your computer? cause my phone has been saying its been sending the picture for 15min now
[02:05] <Punkunity> ya cjae_
[02:05] <Quintin> Wait a minute, so you are all smarter than apt?  I think not
[02:05] <omegacenti_> Siph0n: might be a connection error.
[02:05] <cjae_> Punkunity, r u following
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:05] <Siph0n> ok... thx omegacenti_
[02:05] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop | quintin
[02:05] <ubotu> quintin: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:05] <tritium> Quintin: you have not listened to what I've told you
[02:05] <[agatha] > Quintin,  would be nice if you can drop it, just dont remove it if you dont want...
[02:06] <Punkunity> cjae_, not really i am doing every option i can and none of it makes sense, i dont know the command, i dont know anything, i did get the right section in sound and video, i cklick add item....then i dont know
[02:06] <nullserver5146_> in top, how come it says processes are using swap memory when I dont have swap enabled
[02:06] <^^NeOlOcK^^> someone experience with ettercap?
[02:06] <LjL> nullserver5146_: uhm, what does it say precisely?
[02:07] <omegacenti_> Quintin: an application is only as smart as the person/people that make them. Considering this is the community that supports the applications used in ubuntu... Then yes. We are as smart if not smarter than apt. If you would but just listen that ubuntu-desktop is nothing but a metapackage then you would resolve you issue. Please think about this carefully.
[02:07] <Jared|Linux> I'm on dapper right now, I use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it shows I'm on the latest system :S
[02:07] <Punkunity> i am giving up here cjae_ i simply dont have the time or patience for this right now, ty for your help, maybe someone else can help me later
[02:07] <Quintin> omegacenti_: I'm aware that it is a metapackage.
[02:07] <cjae_> Punkunity, I suggest you learn more about linux before you try, I suggest trying to make a quick launch icon first
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:07] <Quintin> Punkunity: Did you try turning off HT?
[02:08] <cjae_> Punkunity, there is info how to do that on the ubuntu site
[02:08] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: sorry, I had seriously lagged
[02:08] <cjae_> Punkunity, might make you understand more
[02:08] <shadowhywind> oh i so screwed up! i have completely lost any ability to use sudo.. everytime i try to use sudo nothing happens.. can someone help?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> tritium: lol, no sweat
[02:08] <Punkunity> quintin not yet i have no time to reboot right now, but i will in a bit, i have to go pick up my lady from work, and pack for camping in yosemite,ca
[02:08] <nullserver5146_> LjL: i've enabled the swap column and there are numbers greater than zero there for some processes
[02:08] <tritium> IndyGunFreak: _way_ long ;)
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:08] <omegacenti_> shadowhywind: lol ouch I would like to see how you messed it up :)
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> i hate lag
[02:09] <marcosnunes> boa noite
[02:09] <LjL> shadowhywind: what did you do that resulted in that?
[02:09] <cjae_> anyone see my problem
[02:09] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: adeus :P
[02:09] <Quintin> shadowhywind: Boot with kernel command line single init=/bin/passwd give root a password, then fix your problem
[02:09] <Siph0n> omegacenti_: lol i minimized my gaim window and noticed there is a dialog box asking if i wish to accept a file lol
[02:09] <shadowhywind> i tried to add myself to the root group
[02:09] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: falo portugus?
[02:09] <marcosnunes> sim
[02:09] <LjL> Quintin: don't suggest that people set a root password, please.
[02:09] <marcosnunes> eu falo portugues
[02:09] <LjL> shadowhywind: reboot into recovery mode
[02:09] <LjL> !pt
[02:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:09] <PriceChild> !pt | marcosnunes
[02:09] <ubotu> marcosnunes: please see above
[02:10] <Quintin> LjL: Right, I'll just not tell people how to fix their issues.  Oooook.
[02:10] <shadowhywind> Lijl i thik i am down to that.. and then remove the password once i am done
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:10] <LjL> Quintin: there are other ways.
[02:10] <soundray> Quintin: just tell them how to do it the Ubuntu way.
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> Quintin: well, did you remove gaim?
[02:10] <tritium> Quintin: enabling the root account is _not_ necessary for fixing issues
[02:10] <shadowhywind> once i am in the recovery console what do i do?
[02:10] <LjL> shadowhywind: reboot into recovery mode and remove yourself from the root group. make sure you are in the admin group, however
[02:11] <Quintin> no, but in my opinion it's the quickest easiest way to fix it
[02:11] <omegacenti_> alright, Quintin is on a week long ignore list.
[02:11] <dedi_> where can i check if a new tvcard is supported on linux?
[02:11] <foso> hey, im installing feisty on an old laptop, says bios age fails cutoff
[02:11] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: queria poder falar portugus, mas infelizmente no posso :P vai  #ubuntu-pt para ajuda :) boa noite :P
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: lol..
[02:11] <LjL> shadowhywind: use "deluser <user> <group>" to remove an user from a group, and "adduser <user> <group>" to add it to one
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> id on't ignore people as a practice, but he's close..lol
[02:11] <Quintin> foso: That means you won't have acpi.  you can boot with acpi=force to try anyway
[02:11] <foso> quitin, how do i do that?
[02:11] <marcosnunes> #ubuntu-pt
[02:12] <shadowhywind> does the adduser user group work for allready created accounts?
[02:12] <LjL> shadowhywind: ... ?
[02:12] <soundray> shadowhywind: yes
[02:12] <jujimufu> marcosnunes: no, escreve /join #ubuntu-pt
[02:12] <Quintin> foso: When your computer is booting, hit "esc" to get to the GRUB menu, then on the kernel line hit "e" to edit it.  put acpi=force at the end and try to boot.  If everything works, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it permanent
[02:12] <LjL> shadowhywind: do you think it would make sense to remove a group from a user that doesn't yet exist?
[02:12] <shadowhywind> hehe,. sorry if that was confusing
[02:12] <soundray> shadowhywind: to avoid this sudo problem in the future, make sure you start graphical programs with gksudo (not sudo).
[02:13] <shadowhywind> soundray i have a commandline system installed
[02:13] <soundray> shadowhywind: in that case, I concede that my advice doesn't apply...
[02:13] <LjL> shadowhywind: why did you try to add your user to the "root" group, anyway?
[02:13] <shadowhywind> ok so deluser <user> root will delete me from the root group and not delete the user?
[02:13] <Quintin> Feisty seems to be using a smaller font for desktop icons?
[02:14] <LjL> shadowhywind: yes. if you forget the "root" part, however, it will delete your user, so be careful.
[02:14] <jujimufu> hey guys, I am on kubuntu ffawn, and every time I try to pair my cellphone to my pc via bluetooth, when I enter the passcode on my cellphone I get a "Connection Failed" message on both devices, instead of getting a window on the PC asking me to type the password I just typed on my cellphone. Any ideas?
[02:14] <foso> quintin,can i get to the grub menu before i install ubuntu?
[02:14] <fiXXXerMet> Where can I find some neat/trippy backgrounds for a 1280x1024 resolution? :)
[02:14] <shadowhywind> the reason why i was trying to addmyself to the root group is, i have a sftp chroot jail, which the folder permissions are set for root:root, but i want full access to one screenname
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: http://www.gnome-look.org
[02:15] <wulfy814> fiXXXerMet: http://www.interfacelift.com
[02:15] <fiXXXerMet> IndyGunFreak: You own - thanks.
[02:15] <fiXXXerMet> You too.
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: no prob.
[02:15] <Quintin> foso: No.  You can go to "advanced startup options" or whatever and put in acpi=force.  I think it is "F6"
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know if those backgrounds would be "trippy" bu theres a lot of them
[02:15] <dasos> i have an amd turion 64bit x2 laptop, i want to use a live cd to see if all my peripherals work out of the box, do i just want to download the 64 bit version of ubuntu or is there a 64bit + dual core version that i'm missing
[02:15] <LjL> shadowhywind: uhm, that might be slightly over my head, but i think i'd make a *new* group and set the permissions to root:newgroup
[02:15] <shadowhywind> so i thought if i would add the one user to the root group, that would solve all my problems
[02:15] <cchildre> hi all
[02:16] <Quintin> dasos: All the generic kernels have SMP support
[02:16] <slackmagic> fiXXXerMet: try dA,   http://www.deviantart.com/
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> wulfy814: thats a nice site of wallpapers, thanks
[02:16] <jujimufu> fiXXXerMet: try deviantart.com
[02:16] <soundray> dasos: the 64bit version will make use of both your cores.
[02:16] <jujimufu> slackmagic: lol :D
[02:16] <shadowhywind> Lijl unfourently, the chroot jail that i used, will only allow the folder to be root:root
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> devianart, thats the one i was trying to remem r
[02:16] <omegacenti_> IndyGunFreak: If I use gdm, then I am using gnome correct? are they any good sites for themes other than ubutnu default? the african sounds are driving me nuts.
[02:16] <foso> quintin, thanks, i will try that soon, for some reason when i type in a p it puts x and i is a 5
[02:17] <jujimufu> slackmagic: I used to be a very active member of dA. But I left - bad for them :P
[02:17] <slackmagic> fiXXXerMet: or just google around for 1280x1024
[02:17] <Quintin> foso: numlock or fnlock
[02:17] <wulfy814> IndyGunFreak: no problem
[02:17] <[agatha] > hehe that was good question omegacenti_  :P dont really like the brown
[02:17] <dasos> Quintin, soundray: thanks much =)
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> omegacenti_: im pretty sure gdm is gnome... as for the sounds..lol, i'm not sure.
[02:17] <genericnickname> Hello. I need help on a "Fatal Error: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR"
[02:17] <shadowhywind> Why would adding myself to the root group, kill my sudo?
[02:17] <jujimufu> btw, any ideas on how to open password-protected archives in ubuntu?
[02:17] <jujimufu> Ark doesn't work
[02:17] <wulfy814> that interfacelift site let's you browse by resolution
[02:17] <shadowhywind> or could it have been the way i set it up?
[02:17] <slackmagic> jujimufu: i signed up there for the heck of it but mainly just browse through their stuff whenever I feel like it
[02:17] <cchildre> i'm wondering, i have a problem with the desktop effects and i'm wondering if others are having it. i'm using desktop effects under the newest generic kernel (2.6.20-16-generic) with the nvidia drivers, and when I hit CTRL + ALT + F1, it goes to the console, but when I hit ALT + F7 to go back to the desktop, all I get is a black screen.  I can't kill X, and I can't get back to the console.  Very frustrating.  Any ideas about what t
[02:17] <cchildre> o do?
[02:17] <Quintin> jujimufu: file-roller.  make sure you have unzip or whatever
[02:17] <LjL> shadowhywind: then just use root to make any changes, i'm afraid... adding a normal user to the root group can't be a good idea.
[02:17] <wulfy814> I'm needing to install an app from testing, can I do it without modify my sources.lst
[02:17] <veinor> If I have a collection of DRM-ed songs and I want to play them under Linux, what's my best option?
[02:17] <veinor> iTunes DRMed songs.
[02:17] <shadowhywind> and it didn't work!
[02:17] <LjL> wulfy814: "testing"?
[02:17] <PriceChild> veinor, it is against the terms of purchase to get around the drm
[02:17] <omegacenti_> veinor: Find a fair use application to remove the DRM from yours songs.
[02:18] <veinor> Point.
[02:18] <omegacenti_> PriceChild: not quite.
[02:18] <shadowhywind> is there a way to see if i am still part of the group?
[02:18] <cchildre> veinor: there's been some mention of an aac DRM buster, but your best bet is to find a way to run itunes in linux
[02:18] <^^NeOlOcK^^> nurn and rip
[02:18] <LjL> shadowhywind, i'm not sure why it'd kill sudo, but it's something i'd never do for any reason anyway
[02:18] <^^NeOlOcK^^> burn and rip
[02:18] <LjL> shadowhywind: type "groups"
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> DRM is the devil!
[02:18] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x u around ?
[02:18] <soundray> veinor: you can probably run iTunes in wine or a virtual machine. That will also keep you squeaky clean in legal terms.
[02:18] <veinor> IndyGunFreak: Yes it is.
[02:18] <omegacenti_> PriceChild: Terms of purchase pales in comparison to you rights as a consumer
[02:18] <cchildre> IndyGunFreak: DRM is silly, and pointless, but not the devil
[02:18] <veinor> The MPAA/RIAA are the devil.
[02:18] <jujimufu> Quintin: I am on kubuntu right now, so I don't have file-roller
[02:18] <PriceChild> omegacenti_, either way... circumvention will not be discussed in this channel.
[02:18] <LjL> !offtopic
[02:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> cchildre: nope, its the devil!
[02:19] <cchildre> veinor: i agree
[02:19] <wulfy814> LjL: the equivalent of debian's testing repo if their is one for ubuntu
[02:19] <shadowhywind> ok, going back to recovery console to test something.. and then will double check group
[02:19] <veinor> PriceChild: I understand.
[02:19] <wulfy814> maybe I'm misspeaking
[02:19] <Quintin> jujimufu: install it?
[02:19] <shadowhywind> *cries* i just got my system working today.. lol
[02:19] <omegacenti_> cchildre: I argue in favor of evil pointless hacks on modern day inventions.  ... cough... devil..
[02:19] <wulfy814> if I apt-get install backuppc I get version 2.2 I would really like to get version three without having to install it manually
[02:19] <omegacenti_> PriceChild: :)
[02:20] <r00723r0> can anyone recommend a good gnutella gtk client that's not gtk-gnutella?
[02:20] <LjL> wulfy814, there is Gutsy, but installing a Gutsy package on Feisty is far from guaranteed to succeed. you can certainly try (at your own risk) by downloading the wanted package from packages.ubuntu.com and then opening it from your desktop using gdebi or from the terminal using dpkg -i packagename
[02:20] <foso> thanks quintin, im not sure i get it yet though
[02:20] <zoidberg> guys i have a question
[02:20] <openmindDJ> Does anyone here have experience using partimage to create a backup image
[02:20] <cchildre> omegacenti_: nah, the best thing to do is to help the recording/media industries realize how futile DRM is; this will undermine the need for circumvention. it's the same as the piracy issue; if you take away the reason to pirate (insanely high prices, difficulty obtaining desired media, etc), then you undermine the reasons for piracy and therefore prevent it before it starts
[02:20] <soundray> openmindDJ: is that a survey, or are you going to follow up with a *real* question?
[02:20] <zoidberg> when i run sudo apt-get update on Breezy....it sasy some index files failed to download...and its pretty much everything....but i have everything uncommented on the sources.list
[02:20] <zoidberg> ?
[02:20] <josedawg> d
[02:21] <LjL> !offtopic | DRM discussions
[02:21] <zoidberg> any help
[02:21] <ubotu> DRM discussions: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:21] <foso> i hit f6 and it has a line of text i can add to at the end, is that the right thing?
[02:21] <PriceChild> zoidberg, breezy has reached end of life and is no longer supported
[02:21] <genericnickname> I need help on a "Fatal Error: BCM43xx_IRQ_XMIT_ERROR". What is it and how do I correct it?
[02:21] <PriceChild> zoidberg, you are recommended to upgrade to dapper
[02:21] <josedawg> i'm having an issue configuring my mouse. i keep getting an error saying "unknown protocol evdev"
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> PriceChild: thats the second person in two days in here asking for help with breezy
[02:21] <josedawg> any ideas?
[02:21] <omegacenti_> cchildre: Then doesn't that mean piracy is a way to get their attention on the subject?.... maybe I'm using circular reasoning. Ah who knows :)
[02:22] <openmindDJ> soundray: survey thanks
[02:22] <wulfy814> LjL: actually looking to install on 6.06 LTS, I guess I should install the app manually for best stability
[02:22] <aztracker1> zoidberg, same guy from toontorrents?
[02:22] <aztracker1> or something like that.
[02:22] <zoidberg> how do i upgrade to dapper from the terminal again?
[02:22] <LjL> wulfy814, chances are that the dependencies will have different version in Gutsy, so you won't be able to install it, and if you force the installation, you won't be able to run it anyway.
[02:22] <cchildre> omegacenti_: nah, i don't think that piracy is the best way. we need to reach out to them and show them a better, working business model. they're clinging onto what they have known for decades and has made them rich...getting them to part from that will mean that we will have to show them an equally viable way to make money
[02:22] <LjL> !upgrade > zoidberg    (zoidberg, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> aztracker1: i think its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:23] <LjL> !offtopic | cchildre, omegacenti_
[02:23] <ubotu> cchildre, omegacenti_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:23] <omegacenti_> LjL: My apologies.
[02:23] <cchildre> ;p point taken
[02:23] <shadowhywind> ok if i delete the user, and recreate the user... i should regain sudo right?
[02:24] <shawn34> how can i purge all downloaded deb files from apt-get
[02:24] <LjL> shadowhywind: did what i suggested not work?
[02:24] <soundray> wulfy814: there's something in between "manual" installation and installation of a binary gutsy package, which is to get the gutsy sources and compile them into a package on your dapper system with dpkg-buildpackage.
[02:24] <cchildre> omegacenti_: want to take this to ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:24] <ethereal> anyone know how to fix "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?
[02:24] <LjL> shawn34: apt-get clean
[02:24] <shadowhywind> no removeing the group didn't work
[02:24] <shawn34> thanks
[02:24] <^^NeOlOcK^^> ati card?
[02:24] <ethereal> yeah
[02:24] <ethereal> x1650 pro
[02:24] <LjL> shadowhywind: removing the group *from* the user, not removing the group. anyway you typed "deluser shadowhywind root" and then "adduser shadowhywind admin", correct?
[02:24] <^^NeOlOcK^^> u should use aiglx
[02:25] <uri> hi
[02:25] <wulfy814> I found the package I'm looking for in gutsy, only one requirement that's not easily accessible - libfile-rsyncp-perl (>= 0.68)
[02:25] <omegacenti> Anyone know of an ubuntu program that finds things in your house and indexes their locations? you know like keys, entire dvd drives... things of that nature.
[02:25] <shawn34> LjL, I have and issue with some mono packages that I can't uninstall
[02:25] <shadowhywind> Ljl i did not do the admin part...
[02:25] <wulfy814> soundray: do you know of a good tutorial for that? if I build this package, I'll be able to deploy it easier in the future
[02:25] <bigputo> Are there cables to split SATA to IDE?
[02:25] <genericnickname> I have a website that tells me to type "sudo gedit etc/modprobe.d/blacklist", but when I attempt this, it says it cannot open display and that I should type "gedit --help"
[02:26] <LjL> shadowhywind: does "groups" list "admin"?
[02:26] <uri> anyone knows for what was today kernel update of fiesty?
[02:26] <shadowhywind> Ljl no it doesn't, just lists my name... rebooting to add it now
[02:26] <LjL> genericnickname: use "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[02:26] <LjL> genericnickname: you should never use sudo with GUI apps like gedit
[02:26] <LjL> shadowhywind: it should normally also list a few other groups
[02:26] <omegacenti> LjL: Why should you not use sudo with gui scripts?
[02:27] <soundray> wulfy814: not off the top of my head, but it's worth searching the web for combinations of debian with buildpackage or "apt-get build" (Debian generally has more low-level tutorials than ubuntu)
[02:27] <LjL> shadowhywind: for me, it lists:   !%1 > %2    (%2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:27] <LjL> shadowhywind: meh, nevermind that
[02:27] <LjL> shadowhywind: for me, it lists:   ljl adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip www-data video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[02:27] <soundray> wulfy814: sorry, that was ambiguous
[02:27] <LjL> omegacenti: because if you're lucky, the program won't start, if you're less lucky, you'll mess up some files' permissions. gksudo is what is intended to be used with gui apps.
[02:27] <shadowhywind> Ljl i want your address to send you cookies and a singing -hug-a-bear
[02:28] <omegacenti> LjL: and messing with file permissions is very bad correct?
[02:28] <shadowhywind> omegacenti yes!
[02:28] <shadowhywind> *snickers*
[02:28] <soundray> wulfy814: I mean, Debian tends to have more tutorials available that deal with low-level issues, such as package building. They are generally applicable to ubuntu as well.
[02:28] <LjL> !gksudo > omegacenti    (omegacenti, see the private message from Ubotu) yes, quite, read that
[02:28] <jujimufu> I am having problems with bluetooth. I followed the official ubuntu guide, but I still get an error when pairing my cellphone to the pc.
[02:28] <foso> when i try to use acpi=force then it starts saying spurious ack on isa, is this right?
[02:28] <shadowhywind> Ljl that fixed everything... *note to selff.. don't add root group
[02:28] <jujimufu> Any ideas?
[02:29] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a known issue with FireFox and Desktop Effects turned on?
[02:29] <omegacenti> hanks LjL
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> fiXXXerMet: don't think so.
[02:29] <LjL> shadowhywind: you probably want to re-add the other groups as well... cdrom, audio, etc. or you won't be able to read from your cdrom or use audio, etc ;)
[02:29] <fiXXXerMet> Well my FF has been crashing a lot since I just turned it on.
[02:30] <shadowhywind> Ljl *shrugs* its a fileserver, so *shrugs*, don't need that stuff.. However to create a brand new group would it just be like adduser <name> newgroup?
[02:30] <wulfy814> soundray: thankyou - one more question for the night I've been using Dell SC430's but the NIC is no longer automatically recognized with the newer SC440's
[02:30] <foso> anyone know how to use acpi=force correctly? old computer
[02:30] <wulfy814> so I followed directions from the www.ubuntuforums.org , but I have to follow them again after upgrading the kernel
[02:30] <wulfy814> is there any way to automate that?
[02:31] <omegacenti> LjL: AH! it uses the user confugration files for for sudo and gksudo uses the root configuration files... interesting!
[02:31] <ash_> hi i need some help with my ntfs drive.. my "windows" hdd has changed its name to windows and i cant use ntfs config tool to write to it anymore. it used to be called HDD and could read and write fine. when i use ntfs config tool i get the error. Mounting /media/HDD failed. mount: special device /dev/hda1/ does not exist.
[02:32] <soundray> wulfy814: I'm sure there is a way, but I don't know how. Please ask again, addressing everyone in the channel.
[02:32] <ricard1> Hi,
[02:32] <ricard1> I use Ubuntu 6.06 and instaled pcsx playstation one emulator using synaptic, this software wasn't correctly packaged, it use a command (lndir) which is not instaled default in ubuntu
[02:33] <wulfy814> one more question for the night I've been using Dell SC430's but the NIC is no longer automatically recognized with the newer SC440's
[02:33] <shawn34> trying to remove some mono libs (already removed monodevelop) getting error: "mono-xsp: sub-process pre-removal script returned error exit status 2" then packages are broken. How can I get rid of this!?
[02:33] <wulfy814> so I followed directions from the www.ubuntuforums.org , but I have to follow them again after upgrading the kernel
[02:34] <wulfy814> is there any way to automate that?
[02:34] <soundray> ricard1: you could help by filing a bug against the package on launchpad, requesting that it depend on xutils-dev
[02:35] <bruenig> wulfy814, write a script
[02:35] <omegacenti> soundray: Just a question of curiosity: How do you know it dpeneds on xutils-dev?
[02:35] <joshuamc> hi
[02:35] <shawn34> can anyone help me remove this package?
[02:35] <soundray> omegacenti: that's the only package that provides a binary called lndir (found with apt-file)
[02:35] <bruenig> shawn34, what is the error when you sudo apt-get remove it
[02:36] <omegacenti> soundray: thanks :)
[02:36] <shawn34> bruenig, error: "mono-xsp: sub-process pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[02:36] <bruenig> !info mono-xsp
[02:36] <ubotu> mono-xsp: simple web server to run ASP.NET applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 64 kB, installed size 300 kB
[02:36] <wulfy814> can I (sorry for the Windoze term) "slipstream" it into the ISO so i don't have to do it at all?
[02:36] <shawn34> bruenig, its under apt-get auto removable
[02:36] <omegacenti> wulfy814: I don't even know what slipstream means lol
[02:37] <bruenig> shawn34, do dpkg -L mono-xsp | grep '/etc/init.d'
[02:37] <bruenig> shawn34, and paste the output
[02:37] <nuopus> hey does anyone know how to enable the SLED style menus? someone said its called SLAB?
[02:37] <omegacenti> the Linux cli, such elegance.
[02:37] <wulfy814> it's basically inserting the driver into the installation ISO
[02:37] <bruenig> !slab
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <wulfy814> so you don't have to install it after the OS
[02:37] <soundray> shawn34: the clean way is to look at the pre-removal script /var/dpkg/info/mono-xsp.prerm , work out why it fails and correct it.
[02:37] <nuopus> !slab
[02:37] <BK> I broke the xserver on my admin account. How can I use the failsafe terminal to give my guest account admin power?
[02:38] <Gefragt> bhi
[02:38] <bruenig> soundray, yeah I am betting it is a daemon and prerm is trying to stop it, the deb helper scripts stick that code into all the prerm scripts of daemons for some reason
[02:40] <shawn34> bruenig, "/etc/init.d" & "/etc/init.d/mono-xsp"
[02:40] <bruenig> shawn34, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/mono-xsp && sudo apt-get remove mono-xsp
[02:40] <Gefragt> omg wtf
[02:40] <Gefragt> someone kicked me from #bash
[02:40] <ryanakca> how do I set my VT1-7 to have more lines per screen?
[02:40] <soundray> shawn34: the brutal way is to force the script by entering 'exit 0' as the second line. But that can leave a mess if you're unlucky.
[02:40] <ryanakca> how do I set my VT1-7 to have more lines per screen? I know it has something to do with /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I don't remember exactly
[02:40] <soundray> bruenig: makes good sense to me. If a package shows up as uninstalled, you shouldn't expect the daemon to be still running.
[02:40] <BK> can nobody here help me?
[02:40] <bruenig> soundray, ? It tries to stop the daemon before uninstalling. But some daemons error when you try to stop them and they aren't running
[02:40] <shawn34> bruenig, that worked. thank you sooo much!
[02:41] <Voyage_> is mircrosft sued for using the name vista ?
[02:44] <omegacenti> Are gdm and gnome different?
[02:44] <omegacenti> I mean, a gdm theme IS a gnome theme correct?
[02:44] <SillyZ> gdm = gnome display manager
[02:44] <shawn34> uname -r
[02:44] <shawn34> oops
[02:44] <soundray> bruenig: well, yes, that's a bug then
[02:44] <gordboy> gdm logs you in to X. gnome is usually there when you get into a desktop
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: gdm is the log in screen, it permits you to log into gnome, kde, etc
[02:44] <Voyage_> is mircrosft sued for using the name vista ?
[02:44] <gordboy> yes
[02:44] <omegacenti> ryanakca: so a gdm them is not a gnome theme
[02:44] <bruenig> soundray, someone should report it, it happens on every daemon if the daemon isn't running.
[02:44] <BK> no
[02:44] <bruenig> or most of them at least
[02:44] <slackmagic> Voyage_: iirc, yes..some italien guy....about his tv station tele vista or something..there should be a /. article from not too long ago
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: no. It merely changes the appearance of your login screen
[02:44] <soundray> ryanakca: you can add a vga= option to the kernel lines in that file. Available options for VESA cards are shown in http://www.mat.univie.ac.at/~gerald/laptop/vesafb.txt
[02:44] <omegacenti> ryanakca: might you know where I should put the file?
[02:44] <Voyage_> i saw it too.
[02:44] <Voyage_> i saw the news [#LinuxChat News]  - Microsoft sued over Windows Vista name - A French television presenter has sued Microsoft for "violation of intellectual property". Philippe Gildas accused the software publisher of illegally using the trademark "Vista".
[02:44] <gordboy> arnie copyrighted hasta la vista, surely
[02:44] <gh0stid> r00tintheb0x u around ?
[02:44] <ryanakca> soundray: thanks
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: no, sorry, try looking under preferences (I haven't used GNOME in quite a while)
[02:44] <omegacenti> ryanakca: thanks :) If you don't mind me asking, what do you use?
[02:44] <soundray> ryanakca: I find that vga=0x317 is widely compatible with reasonably recent systems.
[02:44] <ryanakca> omegacenti: KDE :D
[02:44] <ryanakca> soundray: yeah. What's the biggest one available? (highest rows x columns )
[02:45] <soundray> ryanakca: 1280x1024, check out that link for the color depths.
[02:45] <omegacenti> Any way to get terminal outputs to have more text/screen?
[02:45] <omegacenti> like ctrl alt f1 and such
[02:46] <soundray> ryanakca: but cards are much more finicky about those
[02:46] <ryanakca> soundray: I'm looking at 1280x1204x16M, but I have no clue on adding "0x31B" and "0x11B" ... hexadecimal I presume?
[02:46] <soundray> omegacenti: scroll up and read the most recent conversation between ryanakca and myself
[02:46] <omegacenti> soundray: will do :)
[02:46] <soundray> ryanakca: vga=0x31B to the kernel line
[02:47] <ryanakca> soundray: ah, ok, thanks :)
[02:47] <soundray> ryanakca: or vga=ask and enter "scan" at the boot prompt, to see which are supported.
[02:48] <omegacenti> soundray: Kernal lines?
[02:48] <uchi> hy
[02:48] <ryanakca> soundray: ok, thanks
[02:48] <soundray> omegacenti: in the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:48] <omegacenti> soundray: oh.
[02:48] <omegacenti> soundray: I have no idea what any of it is! gah! don't know where to start! lol
[02:49] <omegacenti> soundray: what [is 0x31b mean?
[02:49] <soundray> omegacenti: add the option to the line "# defoptions=" as well
[02:49] <soundray> omegacenti: it's a code for a resolution. Look up the link I posted.
[02:49] <omegacenti> soundray: what does that do?
[02:50] <gh0stid> hey i have a quick question .. why is my Xwindow taskbar smaller that the screen is actualy ??
[02:50] <jujimufu> ok, how do i return to default installation configurations for some applications?
[02:50] <soundray> omegacenti: resist the temptation to learn everything at once ;)
[02:50] <omegacenti> soundray: but its so tempting!
[02:50] <soundray> omegacenti: the change to the # defoptions line ensures that the setting survives your  next kernel upgrade.
[02:50] <johnnybuoy> does anyone know how one can create a file with a fixed length?
[02:50] <johnnybuoy> eg. 5MB
[02:51] <omegacenti> :)
[02:51] <michael117> How can I delay the execution of a command for a set amount of time?
[02:51] <Wesley> what is the best and most popular distro based on fluxbox?
[02:51] <johnnybuoy> fluxbuntu
[02:51] <johnnybuoy> anyone?
[02:51] <omegacenti> michael117: maybe sleep?
[02:51] <soundray> johnnybuoy: sec
[02:51] <omegacenti> like try something like sleep (something goes here) && command you want to run.
[02:52] <br24> s
[02:52] <soundray> johnnybuoy: dd if=/dev/zero of=fixedlengthfile bs=1024k count=5
[02:52] <Wesley> Is fluxbuntu really that popular?
[02:52] <crimsun> Wesley: yes.
[02:52] <omegacenti> What is fluxbuntu?
[02:52] <johnnybuoy> soundray, thx! I knew it would have something to do with dd :)
[02:52] <soundray> omegacenti: resist the...
[02:52] <Wesley> more popular than any other fluxbox alternative? Damn.
[02:53] <omegacenti> soundray: I can't help it... walks toward the flame...
[02:53] <soundray> :)
[02:53] <savetheWorld> omegacenti: DONT GO INTO THE LIGHT!
[02:53] <soundray> Lady and gentlemen: Good night
[02:53] <omegacenti> soundray: Linux is just so exciting...
[02:53] <omegacenti> night soundray :)
[02:53] <TTT_Travis> Hi I have a LVM install of ubuntu, my LVM is / I am almost out of space and would like to add another drive but I can't extend the volume because it is in use, how else can I extend / to another drive
[02:53] <omegacenti> savetheWorld I can't help it.. mumble..
[02:54] <omegacenti> !lvm
[02:54] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:54] <omegacenti> What is lvm?
[02:54] <lefinx> hi, im using feisty, i would like to make an audio conversation with 2 people in the same time, skype doesn't support this. is there anysoftware i can use to do so?
[02:54] <gh0stid> hey i have a quick question .. why is my Xwindow taskbar smaller that the screen is actualy ??
[02:54] <savetheWorld> Logical Volume Manager
[02:54] <deepsa> omegacenti, logical volumen manager
[02:54] <roostishaw> where is the gusty gibbon channel?
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> !gutsy
[02:54] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:54] <omegacenti> lefinx: I thought skype had something like a conversation room or something.
[02:54] <savetheWorld> right here?
[02:55] <roostishaw> IndyGunFreak: thanks
[02:55] <Wesley> nubuntu is the best linux distro i've seen out there
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> roostishaw: no sweat
[02:55] <Wesley> the interface is beyond all
[02:55] <Wesley> propietary qucik
[02:55] <Wesley> and doesnt look like crap
[02:55] <BK> I broke the xserver on my admin account. How can I use the failsafe terminal to give my guest account admin power?
[02:55] <roostishaw> IndyGunFreak: I remember for dapper...
[02:55] <roostishaw> oh, nevermind...
[02:55] <roostishaw> :)
[02:56] <BK> or, how do I completely reset my admin account?
[02:58] <natali> hola
[02:58] <omegacenti> Is there a way to get a whole list of everything that is using memory on my computer? I only have 43 megs of a gig left of memory left free
[02:58] <Jimmey> BK, what's your problem?
[02:58] <TakeOut{u}> BK, you need to get into single user mode i suspect
[02:58] <TakeOut{u}> but i don't know how to do that
[02:58] <bruenig> single user = recovery mode I believe
[02:58] <Jimmey> omegacenti, try "System > Administration > System Monitor"
[02:59] <BK> I can only get admin privileges through the failsafe terminal
[02:59] <omegacenti> Jimmey: Thanks :)
[02:59] <roostishaw> anyone in here running ubuntu on an apple macbook (1st gen, if it matters...)?
[02:59] <BK> I be a newb so...
[02:59] <michael117> omegacenti: Thanks. Sleep works well. I found a command called "after" via google but I guess it was deprecated.
[02:59] <omegacenti> BK newb is good. noob is bad. :)
[02:59] <Jimmey> BK, what's the problem?
[03:00] <solowlr> I'm logged into ubuntu remotely via ssh, I type "who" and see myself logged in from a previous session, how do I connect to that previous session?
[03:00] <BK> the prob is that I can't log into my admin account, and I need to make a new one through the failsafe terminal
[03:00] <bruenig> there is no admin account
[03:01] <BK> there is, but I can only use the terminal version of it
[03:01] <bruenig> you mean root?
[03:01] <jujimufu> !obexserver
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about obexserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <bruenig> you cannot login to root
[03:01] <Jimmey> BK, if you boot into the recovery mode, then type "startx", you can use the normal GUI options to make your user an admin again.
[03:02] <BK> when I use startx I get "no screens" or something like that
[03:02] <BK> I get an error
[03:02] <jujimufu> in the internet I can read that there is a package that is called "obexserver", but when I type "sudo aptitude search obex" I don't see any such package. Any ideas?
[03:02] <Jimmey> BK, what graphics hardware are you running with?
[03:02] <omegacenti> BK might be a resolutions problem.
[03:03] <Wesley> KEK
[03:03] <Wesley> keke
[03:03] <omegacenti> What does a sleeping application do?
[03:03] <BK> I had switched grphics cards and mobos, and it broke beryl, then I removed beryl. But now when I log i9n I get a white screen
[03:03] <Wesley> drool and dream omaga
[03:03] <Wesley> drool and dream
[03:03] <p1ls> hey did anyone played swat 4 on linux?
[03:04] <bruenig> BK, #ubuntu-effects
[03:04] <SillyZ> question : Ive got a new partition on a new drive /dev/sdb   reiserfs is the filesystem, Im using flags  rw,exec,user,noatime,notail  but the only user that can do anything with the drive is root...... what am I missing?
[03:04] <BK> I talked to them and they can't help me
[03:04] <Jimmey> BK, try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", and selecting "vesa" as the xorg-driver. Then try "startx" again
[03:04] <BK> I did that already
[03:04] <p1ls> witam, gral tu ktos w swata 4 na linie?
[03:04] <p1ls> hey did anyone played swat 4 on linux?
[03:05] <BK> Then I restart the server again, still didn't work
[03:05] <l8kboy> How do I fix : E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmjpegutils-1.8.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmjpegtools0c2a
[03:05] <BK> *xserver
[03:05] <zeeeee> is there any index of packages from several of the popular repositories? ubuntuguide says p7zip-full exists for dapper, but i can't tell which repository i need to add
[03:06] <bruenig> !info p7zip
[03:06] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.43~dfsg.1-1 (feisty), package size 315 kB, installed size 948 kB
[03:06] <Jimmey> BK, http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/08/1651225
[03:06] <bruenig> zeeeee, universe
[03:06] <Jimmey> BK, scroll to "add users to sudo"
[03:06] <p1ls> anyone played swat on linux?
[03:07] <gh0stid> any of u, using beryl couldnt get transparent console to work and lost border of the window ?
[03:07] <TTT_Travis> I extended my main root lvm by 232gb, but it still says only 1gb free, is there something else I need to do?
[03:07] <TTT_Travis> lvextend
[03:07] <zeeeee> bruenig, are you sure that applies to dapper? i don't see it..
[03:07] <BK> Thank you very much
[03:07] <bruenig> !info p7zip dapper
[03:07] <ubotu> p7zip: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.30.dfsg-1 (dapper), package size 1413 kB, installed size 3784 kB
[03:07] <Jimmey> BK, no worries
[03:07] <bruenig> zeeeee, yep
[03:08] <zeeeee> bruenig, not p7zip
[03:08] <zeeeee> p7zip-full
[03:08] <bruenig> what is the difference
[03:08] <zeeeee> !info p7zip-full dapper
[03:08] <ubotu> Package p7zip-full does not exist in dapper
[03:08] <bruenig> !info p7zip-full
[03:08] <ubotu> p7zip-full: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.43~dfsg.1-1 (feisty), package size 1360 kB, installed size 3576 kB
[03:08] <bruenig> it is not there
[03:08] <zeeeee> bruenig, the difference is that that's the dependency acetoneiso requires
[03:08] <taurusivy> how can i install ? from source or official cite
[03:08] <bruenig> hmmm, acetoneiso is like a front end for mount right?
[03:08] <zeeeee> bruenig, no
[03:09] <zeeeee> bruenig, it can extract daa's
[03:09] <bruenig> looked like it when I saw it
[03:09] <bruenig> !iso | zeeeee convert
[03:09] <ubotu> zeeeee convert: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:09] <omegacenti> How robust is iptables? Can it stand up to sophisticated attacks?
[03:09] <ryanakca> I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure console-setup', but the changes don't seem to take effect, what do I do?
[03:09] <zeeeee> bruenig, i know how to mount iso's
[03:09] <Jimmey> omegacenti, probably.
[03:09] <bruenig> zeeeee, read the whole thing
[03:09] <gh0stid> any of u, using beryl couldnt get transparent console to work and lost border of the window ?
[03:09] <Jimmey> ryanacka, restart the application that "console-setup" applies to
[03:09] <zeeeee> bruenig, daa's not listed there
[03:09] <omegacenti> !beryl
[03:09] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:10] <zeeeee> "For a full program that can convert many images and do much much more, download AcetoneISO (EL) software. "
[03:11] <bruenig> it would be nice if they released that code separate, daa2iso
[03:11] <solowlr> sorry for the repost...I'm logged into ubuntu remotely via ssh, I type "who" and see myself logged in from a previous session, how do I connect to that previous session?
[03:11] <ryanakca> Jimmey: it being?
[03:11] <Rotund> is there a program for detecting what is accessing your hard drive?
[03:11] <Jimmey> ryanakca, I don't know :-P
[03:11] <ryanakca> Jimmey: I can't really restart /dev/tty1 ;)
[03:11] <zeeeee> bruenig, so anyway... do you know how to find out what repo to add?
[03:12] <Jimmey> ryanakca, try sudo /etc/init.d/console-setup restart
[03:13] <omegacenti> Ooooo beryl sounds sexy.
[03:13] <bruenig> zeeeee, I would just open the acetone deb and change the dependency from p7zip-full to p7zip
[03:13] <omegacenti> Is beryl easy to get up and running?
[03:13] <Jimmey> omegacenti, which Ubuntu are you running?
[03:13] <omegacenti> Jimmey: ubuntu ff
[03:13] <zeeeee> bruenig, hmmmm
[03:13] <Jimmey> omegacenti, have you tried enabling Desktop Effects?
[03:13] <omegacenti> Jimmey: assume no.
[03:13] <bruenig> zeeeee, why are you still using dapper, is this a server?
[03:14] <zeeeee> they aren't the same, it seems
[03:14] <zeeeee> bruenig, no, it's company-issued distro
[03:14] <Jimmey> omegacenti, you might want to try that; What graphics hardware are you running?
[03:14] <bruenig> zeeeee, rules against upgrading?
[03:14] <omegacenti> Jimmey: Intel 915GM integrated graphics card on wxga tablet display (laptop
[03:15] <ryanakca> Jimmey: nope, tried it :S
[03:15] <Jimmey> omegacenti, I'm not sure how well 915's run on Ubuntu. I have an 855GM, it ran quite poorly
[03:15] <Jimmey> ryanakca, is a restart out of the question? :-P
[03:16] <zeeeee> bruenig, no, it would just be a pain
[03:16] <zeeeee> if i had tons of time i'd do it for sure. i miss beryl
[03:16] <bruenig> takes maybe 2 hours get the fresh disc
[03:16] <zeeeee> bruenig, no, that's not what i mean
[03:17] <zeeeee> bruenig, there's a ton of extra shit in the company issued distro
[03:17] <Jimmey> omegacenti, when you run "glxgears", after five seconds, what does the terminal say?
[03:17] <omegacenti> Jimmey: yea it was BAD
[03:17] <Jimmey> omegacenti, yeah.
[03:17] <omegacenti> Jimmey: one sec
[03:17] <bruenig> zeeeee, but I would assume that it is all contained in a deb?
[03:17] <Jimmey> omegacenti, Intel did make some decent drivers for SuSe...None yet for Ubuntu, I don't think
[03:18] <zeeeee> bruenig, no, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobuntu
[03:18] <omegacenti> average 800 frames per second Jimmey
[03:18] <zoidberg> hey guys does anyone know how you can do CPU scaling on Feisty?
[03:18] <omegacenti> Jimmey: That doesn't sound bad...
[03:18] <jmac532> i'm having a problem with a command that's not working
[03:18] <ub12> What is the best way to cleanup all the old unused kernels and free up some disk space?
[03:19] <bruenig> ub12, rm them
[03:19] <Jimmey> ub12, you can delete them
[03:19] <Jimmey> ub12, try uninstalling them with Synaptic
[03:19] <ub12> ok rm and delete but what about the entries in the grub menu at bootup?
[03:19] <Mr_Mirsal> ub12, Just run update-grub after.
[03:20] <ub12> cool thanks bruenig Jimmey and Mr_Mirsal
[03:20] <jmac532> what does  dd bs=1048576 if=.tiger-x85-flat.img of=/dev/hda do?
[03:20] <Jimmey> omegacenti, ahh - My graphics card gives me 2000FPS from glxgears, and even that doesn't run Beryl seemlessly
[03:20] <omegacenti> Jimmey: omegacenti wow...
[03:20] <Frogzoo> ub12: dpkg --purge linux-source-2.6.xx
[03:21] <omegacenti> Jimmey:  point taken then
[03:21] <jujimufu> how can I install obexserver?
[03:21] <Jimmey> omegacenti, I imagine it'd work better if there were some proper drivers for intel integrated graphics chips :-( But it's the way it goes
[03:22] <jujimufu> the package does not exist in the standard kubuntu/ubuntu repos, yet I can see it in other guides
[03:22] <omegacenti> Jimmey: one day.... one day....
[03:22] <Frogzoo> jmac532: looks like it's meant to restore an image of an entire hard drive
[03:22] <jmac532> exactly but it's not working, is one of the commands incorrect?
[03:22] <cheeseboy> i cant ping my ubuntu pc why?
[03:23] <cheeseboy> any ideas?
[03:23] <zeeeee> so it seems the only way to find out is to add all the repositories, import gpg, update, show, and remove other repositories
[03:23] <omegacenti> cheeseboy: might be set not to react to pings
[03:23] <cheeseboy> omegacenti, im  tryn to set up samba and it wont connec either
[03:24] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, how is it connected to the machine you're trying to ping it from?
[03:24] <cheeseboy> wireless
[03:24] <cheeseboy> router
[03:24] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, can the Ubuntu machine connect to the internet?
[03:24] <cheeseboy> yes
[03:25] <Wesley> i lost a computer
[03:25] <Wesley> literally
[03:25] <Jimmey> Type "ifconfig" in the terminal, cheeseboy
[03:25] <Wesley> it responds to piing but i cant find it in my apartment
[03:25] <omegacenti> I want to congratulate the engineer at gateway who thought it as a good idea to put the fan on the underside of my laptop...
[03:25] <Jimmey> Wesley, too much bash.org.
[03:25] <Jimmey> omegacenti, ouch :'-(
[03:25] <Wesley> damn you jimmery
[03:25] <Wesley> DAMN YOU!
[03:26] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, lists all my network devices
[03:26] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, what does ifconfig | grep 'inet addr' get you?
[03:27] <TakeOut{u}> omegacenti, you should thank all the engineers who had that idea whilst you're at it :P
[03:28] <Wesley> you couldn't kick my ass if I gave you special ass-kicking shoes and bent over for ya
[03:28] <macintackin> I loaded 7.04 on a Dell D610 laptop.  The trackpad is very slow, I am forced to use the 'nipple' or an external mouse.  Is there a way to speed up the trackpad?
[03:28] <zoidberg> hey guys does anyone know how you can do CPU scaling on Feisty?
[03:28] <rabiddachshund> what's the program needed to make a bootable flash drive?
[03:32] <__mikem> !ohmy | Wesley macintackin
[03:32] <ubotu> Wesley macintackin: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:32] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, 192.168.1.102 192.168.104 127.0.0.1
[03:32] <Wesley> wtf is a family
[03:32] <zoidberg> can anyone help me please?
[03:32] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, which address are you trying to ping
[03:32] <cheeseboy> 102
[03:32] <demon_spork> !livecd
[03:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[03:32] <oeoeoeo> http://www.gov-civil-leiria.pt/index.php?p=http://ikhlas.com.my/cmd.txt??
[03:32] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, can you ping your Windows machine from your Ubuntu one?
[03:32] <cheeseboy> yes
[03:32] <demon_spork> how do I customize a LiveCD for Ubuntu Feisty?
[03:32] <Jimmey> zoidberg, what's the problem?
[03:32] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, its the 104
[03:32] <rabiddachshund> what's the program needed to make a bootable flash drive?
[03:32] <zoidberg> i was wondering how you can do CPU scaling on Feisty?
[03:32] <rabiddachshund> sys something?
[03:32] <ufuk_kilicaslan> hi guys,i got an error after a system restore.Couldnt start kdeinit.check your installation.is sometinh wrong with my home folder?
[03:32] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, any ideas?
[03:32] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, so 192.168.1.102 is the Ubuntu machine, 192.168.1.104 is the Windows machine?
[03:32] <jmac532> the error I'm getting says "no such file or directory" when I run dd bs=1048576 if=.tiger-x85-flat.img of=/dev/hda"
[03:32] <cheeseboy> yes Jimmey
[03:33] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, why does "192.168.1.104" turn up when you do "ifconfig | grep 'inet addr'"?
[03:33] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, i dont know
[03:34] <ufuk_kilicaslan> can someone help me about "couldnt start kde init" error?
[03:34] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, in Windows, Start > Run > "cmd"[enter]  > ipconfig [enter] 
[03:34] <cheeseboy> Jimmey,  this pc is 104 ipconfig sats so
[03:34] <demon_spork> how do I customize a LiveCD for Ubuntu Feisty?  I want to have ndiswrapper set up because all the computers I want to use it on have the same wireless card
[03:34] <spikey> can someone help me with a dual boot setup?
[03:34] <Jimmey> spikey, hopefully
[03:35] <cheeseboy> Jimmey,         IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.104
[03:35] <oam_> spikey : what do you need to know .. i am running dual boot here
[03:35] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, try pinging 192.168.1.102 and 192.168.1.104 from the Windows machine. Also, copy the output of "ifconfig | grep 'inet addr'" to here
[03:36] <yo2k> hi...
[03:36] <omegacenti> If Im logged in as root in file browser, how in the world do I get to my users desktop (not roots desktop)
[03:36] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, i ccant copy here
[03:36] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, that machine has no x
[03:36] <v3n0m> gravemind, jrib, bruenig, flannel: you around?
[03:36] <Jimmey> omegacenti /home/username/Desktop
[03:36] <yo2k> how to setup modem smartlink in ubuntu 7.04?
[03:36] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, ahh
[03:36] <omegacenti> Jimmey: Thanks :)
[03:36] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, i can ping 104 but not 102
[03:36] <yo2k> i use a laptop
[03:37] <spikey> i installed ubuntu on a different hard drive than my windows installation, and now I can't get back into windows, i've tried following instructions on forums and web sites, but it still won't let me get back into windows
[03:37] <Jimmey> spikey, alright. Did you add the entry to the GRUB menu?
[03:38] <cheeseboy> Jimmey, wat do i do?
[03:38] <yo2k> spikey: u can replace mbr with the original...
[03:38] <craigbass1976> Is there's some sort of web client for subversion I can get for ubuntu?
[03:38] <Pelo> damn linux
[03:38] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get firestarter to accept pages.. it appears loading is severely slower with it on
[03:38] <Jimmey> cheeseboy, which is your Windows and which is your Ubuntu network address?
[03:38] <spikey> jimmy, yea, i don't know if the entry is right though
[03:39] <cheeseboy> ubuntu 102 windows 104
[03:39] <Pelo> linux is killing my windows trouble shooting skills
[03:39] <spikey> yo2k, how would i do that?
[03:39] <Jimmey> CaptainMorgan, Firestarter's not the actual firewall. The firewall's already installed - Firestarter can't make a difference in that sense.
[03:39] <oam_> Spikey : the entry needs to be something like what is on this page
[03:39] <oam_> http://ca.rroll.net/2006/08/28/dual-boot-ubuntu-linux-and-windows-xp-on-separate-disks/
[03:39] <madman91> HOW do i see what programs/files are in use on a certain partition/harddrive
[03:39] <oam_> title Windows XP
[03:39] <craigbass1976> Pelo, you won't miss them.  Every time you sit down at a windows box, you'll think more and more "what in the world do people use THIS for"
[03:39] <oam_> map (hd0) (hd1)
[03:39] <oam_> map (hd1) (hd0)
[03:39] <oam_> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[03:39] <oam_> makeactive
[03:39] <oam_> chainloader +1
[03:39] <Jimmey> spikey:, listen to oam_
[03:41] <craigbass1976> Pelo, What's this one desktop business...
[03:41] <ufuk_kilicaslan> can someone help me about "couldnt start kde init" error? i cant start x server
[03:41] <oam_> Jimmey : im not 100% on this .. so if you think i have made a mistake .. say something =)
[03:41] <cheeseboy> srry Jimmey accidenatlly closed window
[03:41] <yo2k> spikey: wait a moment, a couple month, i have a problem to...
[03:41] <Pelo> craigbass1976, my bro isn'T all that computer savy, and I,ve been trying to get him to switch for months now,  I'll get him in the end
[03:41] <oam_> Spikey : are you able to give us a listing of what your /boot/grub/menu.lst file has atm ?
[03:41] <jmac532> does someone understand the command  dd bs=1048576 if=.tiger-x85-flat.img of=/dev/hda
[03:41] <Jimmey> spikey, is it alright if I PM you to help you sort it out?
[03:41] <craigbass1976> Pelo, yeah, keep chipping away.  So long as he isn't a games fanatic, he shoulld fold eventually
[03:41] <v3n0m> I need help with this problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24364/
[03:41] <spikey> oam, when i try to edit it now, it doesn't save it when i test it, it just goes back to how it was
[03:41] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  he has a wii for games
[03:41] <oam_> Hrm ..
[03:41] <spikey> jimmy, yea
[03:41] <oam_> are you making the changes while you are root ?
[03:41] <madman91> HOW do i see what programs/files are in use on a certain partition/harddrive
[03:41] <oam_> or using sudo ??
[03:42] <ufuk_kilicaslan> can someone help me about "couldnt start kde init" error? i made a system restore it works but my x server doesnt start
[03:42] <Jimmey> oam_, chillax - I got this one :-P
[03:42] <madman91> i want to unmount a partition.. but it is busy.. how do i see what program/file is in use
[03:42] <oam_> Jimmey : ok .. i'll leave you with it =)
[03:42] <ufuk_kilicaslan> mandamn91, close every browser and terminal using it
[03:43] <Pelo> madman91, very difficult,  what is on that hdd try to figure out what might be using it
[03:43] <ziroday> v3n0m: have you tried going in to the failsafe terminal and changing the ownership of your /home directory?
[03:43] <ziroday> man chown
[03:43] <ufuk_kilicaslan> anyone who has made a system restore ,restoring /home partition and kde wont start?
[03:44] <v3n0m> ziroday I tried changing the permission of my username directory ( which is a subdirectory of the home directory) and it says permission denied
[03:44] <Jimmey> spikey, are you getting my private messages?
[03:44] <ziroday> v3n0m: did you try with the sudo command?
[03:44] <craigbass1976> v3n0m, You may want to hit Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in as someone, and delete yourself.  Back your stuff up first.  THen recreate yourself
[03:44] <Nutubuntu> I have a RAID question. Setting up a RAID1 ("mirrored") array on new HDs for a Feisty box. But the HDs are not the same size (250 GB & 300 GB). If I just use 250GB on the larger HD, I've "wasted" 50GB, but; if I mirror only /home (using the "extra" 50GB on the larger HD for /), I'm concerned about the lack of redundancy. Thoughts?
[03:45] <yo2k> spikey: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/WindowsNT/AdminTips/Miscellaneous/RewriteMasterBootRecord.html
[03:45] <Jimmey> yo2k, he doesn't need to do that.
[03:45] <ufuk_kilicaslan> and what is "timeout in belong authority file  /home/user/serverauth/4889
[03:45] <yo2k> Jimmey, upps sorry...
[03:45] <ufuk_kilicaslan> and what is "timeout in belong authority file  /home/user/.Xauthority
[03:46] <mage__> Nutubuntu: data needs to be on multiple drives for redudancy
[03:46] <Jimmey> yo2k, it's cool - It just looks like an error in his GRUB entry
[03:46] <Nutubuntu> mage__ - agree about data; I'm less concerned about the OS though ... foolishly?
[03:46] <mage__> well
[03:46] <oeoeoeo> http://www.gov-civil-leiria.pt/index.php?p=http://ikhlas.com.my/cmd.txt??
[03:46] <yo2k> Jimmey, ok... i'm a beginer, so i replace the mbr and install again...
[03:47] <tony_> Can someone point me at docs on how to write IO programs - my first one to the parallel port only works if I am su?
[03:47] <Jimmey> yo2k, do you have the same problen?
[03:47] <mage__> Nutubuntu: my advice would be to only put /usr on the 50gig partition
[03:47] <nerubian> can someone help me about "couldnt start kde init" error? i made a system restore it works but my x server doesnt start
[03:47] <Jimmey> yo2k, *problem?
[03:47] <yo2k> in a long time ago...
[03:47] <Jimmey> yo2k, it's fixed now, though?
[03:47] <sebas_> !mbr
[03:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:47] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  I'm basically new to linux; /usr is where my apps live?
[03:47] <yo2k> Jimmey, yes, that time i use rh9
[03:48] <mage__> Nutubuntu: it really depends on how much fiddling you do with the OS and stuff like that.
[03:48] <nerubian> man.. anyone knows about kde init error.cant start xserver?
[03:48] <ubunt1> (06:44:52 PM) ubunt1: hey how can i make full backup from ubuntu server
[03:48] <ubunt1> 18:45
[03:48] <ubunt1> (06:45:05 PM) ubunt1: for example to save in direcory
[03:48] <sebas_> !hierarchy | Nutubuntu
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hierarchy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <Jimmey> nerubian, what is the error saying?
[03:48] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  as far as the OS goes, I am not into fiddling much; I don't compile my own kernel or anything like that. Install, upgrade as seldom as possible. I do try out a bunch of apps before I settle on one though.
[03:48] <yo2k> Jimmey, i replace my mbr, and windows runing well, but i forget hot to do that...
[03:49] <ubunt1> is ther someone who can know how to make this in ubuntu server.
[03:49] <mage__> Nutubuntu: I'd say its a bit like Program Files
[03:49] <chihau> hey guys i have a problem, i was installed ubuntu feisty, but i cant load some web pages with any browser, but its not a dns problem becouse with the ip its the same problem
[03:49] <nerubian> jimmey, couldnt start kde init.startupconfig,etc.check your installation
[03:49] <v3n0m> I have to try that I'll bbl ziroday
[03:49] <ziroday> v3n0m: cya
[03:50] <nerubian> jimmey, i made a system restore and restored my /home partition
[03:50] <mage__> Nutubuntu: are you using lvm?
[03:50] <Jimmey> nerubian, how do you mean?
[03:50] <Smaug> does anybody know how to play a song through all the slides in office presentation?
[03:51] <PurpZeY> Can someone give me a quick hand? My desktop just froze, My animated cursor is moving...I hear that I am receiving IMs...But I'd rather not restart x-server...maybe it's related to beryl? I have no idea...help!?
[03:51] <mage__> PurpZeY: sounds like something graphical froze
[03:51] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: yeah, it probably has something to do with beryl
[03:51] <nerubian> jimmey, i backupped my system using "dar" program.then i restored "/ partition and kernel everything works.but my kde doesnt start
[03:51] <DK_II> what does this mean? > 29: Syntax error: Bad substitution.... Happens when I try and execute the 'ut' file after installing Unreal Tournament from the loki installer.
[03:51] <mage__> PurpZeY: you're going to have to restart it
[03:51] <Nutubuntu> :) mage__ , that's another question. I think it could be handy for flexibility later, but it adds a layer of "stuff" to possibly fail. I figure that by the time I go through 250GB, drives will be different enough that I'll just buy The New Kind, whatever it is... not fiddle with reallocating blocks on the old ones. I dunno...
[03:52] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: or mage__ How do I restart beryl or something to that effect?
[03:52] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: killall beryl
[03:52] <r00723r0> in terminal
[03:52] <yo2k> someone to guide me to setup smartlink modem at laptop acer aspire 1400?
[03:52] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: How can I get a term?
[03:52] <r00723r0> alt+f2
[03:52] <TheDebugger> PurpZeY: try to do ctrl+alt+f1 then login then "killall beryl"
[03:52] <Jimmey> PurpZeY, and maybe "metacity --replace"
[03:52] <r00723r0> gnome-terminal
[03:52] <PurpZeY> TheDebugger: Is that going to restart my x-serv?
[03:52] <yo2k> i use ubuntu 7.04
[03:52] <r00723r0> NO
[03:52] <TheDebugger> PurpZeY: No
[03:52] <r00723r0> DON'T DO WHAT TheDebugger
[03:52] <r00723r0> said
[03:53] <r00723r0> until you know how to get back
[03:53] <TheDebugger> PurpZeY: You can come back to your X server with ctrl+alt+f7 i think or f8..
[03:53] <r00723r0> control+alt+f7 to get back to your desktop
[03:53] <nerubian> jimmey, i think a have problem with mounting /home partition or problems with configuration after restoring /home
[03:53] <r00723r0> ok, now it's safe to do
[03:53] <mage__> Nutubuntu: if you use LVM, you need a copy of /etc/. if you just want a large expandable /home partition and dont need any other partitions resized or whatever, just make raid array partition at end of each drive
[03:53] <xam> just rememver to run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:54] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: none of that is doing anything. . .So I am stuck with ctrl-alt-bkspc?
[03:54] <Jimmey> nerubian, did the permissions change? Try "CTRL + ALT + F1", login as yourself, "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop; sudo startx"
[03:54] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: control+alt+f1 doesn't work?
[03:54] <r00723r0> +f7 to get back to desktop
[03:54] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: No effect from ctrl+alt+f1
[03:54] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  I figured to put the RAID partition at the end, yes. I've seen pages discussing adding LVM "later" and thought, probably later's okay...
[03:55] <r00723r0> alt+printscreen+r, then try control+alt+f1 again
[03:55] <nerubian> jimmey, may be the permissons changed.how can i set permissions as previous?
[03:55] <guerrillawon> Can anyone tell me how to reset asla, or esd etc. to defaults? I keep wiping out al my sound.
[03:55] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[03:55] <r00723r0> larson9999: :)
[03:55] <guerrillawon> Is there any specific way to restore these audio settings?
[03:55] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Ok, I got a term now, so now just start xserv ?
[03:55] <mage__> I have lvm+raid5 and to grow say /home, I have to grow the array, then tell the lvm its bigger, make the logical volume for /home bigger and finally resize the ext3
[03:55] <xam> yeah, delete your configs
[03:56] <chihau> hey guys i have a problem, i was installed ubuntu feisty, but i cant load some web pages with any browser, but its not a dns problem becouse with the ip its the same problem
[03:56] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: huh?
[03:56] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: you're in xorg
[03:56] <Jimmey> nerubian, "sudo chown -R username:username /home/username"
[03:56] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Looks like a $ prompt
[03:56] <r00723r0> yeah
[03:56] <r00723r0> i'm sorry
[03:56] <r00723r0> i thought you were talking about right now
[03:56] <Jimmey> chihau, can you load others?
[03:56] <yo2k> chihau: use javascript/php/...?
[03:56] <r00723r0> at that point, run "killall beryl"
[03:56] <nerubian> jmmey, thank you i will try these
[03:56] <chihau> yes
[03:56] <chihau> others like google
[03:56] <guerrillawon> Please I've been working on this for like 2 weeks. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=453420
[03:57] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Ok, done.
[03:57] <ubunt1> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[03:57] <ubunt1> @    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!     @
[03:57] <ubunt1> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
[03:57] <ubunt1> IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
[03:57] <chihau> yo2k: yes
[03:57] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  I wrote up what I figure to do and pastebinned it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24709/ if you're curious ... I do have a couple of questions about it, things I haven't done before
[03:57] <ubunt1> tonyyarusso: man
[03:57] <mobius> hi
[03:57] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: working now?
[03:57] <yo2k> chihau, you open with firefox?
[03:57] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: I ran killall beryl...I am still at the term, blackscreen...How do I get back?
[03:57] <mage__> ubunt1: the part you didnt paste tells you what line to delete from what file to make it work, if the host is still okay
[03:57] <josue> alooo
[03:57] <chihau> i was tried with epiphany firefox konqueror
[03:57] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: control+alt+f7
[03:58] <josue> alguien habla espaol?
[03:58] <nerubian> jmmey, is username:username /home/username same usernames?
[03:58] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: control+alt+f1-7 are screens
[03:58] <mage__> Nutubuntu: why two swap partitions?
[03:58] <Nutubuntu> !es | josue
[03:58] <ubotu> josue: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:58] <chihau> yo2k: i was tried with epiphany firefox konqueror
[03:58] <yo2k> chihau, maybe your browser don't support some script, tri to update some plugin...
[03:58] <puff> aEvening.  I appear to have succesfully burnt my data DVD  using Brasero to overcome the "too many directories in hierarchy" problem.
[03:59] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  I figured to add RAM later. Probably unnecessary ... I've got "only" 3/4 GB RAM in this box
[03:59] <chihau> humm
[03:59] <Jimmey> nerubian, replace "username" with your username - for me, it's "sudo chown -R james:james /home/james/"
[03:59] <puff> However, when I put the DVD back in the drive, it doesn't seem to become visible in /media/cdrom.
[03:59] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Ok, looks like there is some improvement...I am in GTK I beleive...But I am still getting no response from the windows...I mean, before, my IM window wasn't scrolling, it is now, but I still can't alt-tab or anything
[03:59] <nerubian> jimmey, thanks gonna try it
[03:59] <mage__> Nutubuntu: the swap=ram*2 comes from people running OS's that will dump to swap
[03:59] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: much better
[03:59] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: now run metacity --replace
[03:59] <mage__> as in a memory dump
[03:59] <chihau> yo2k: its so strange becouse it a newly install
[03:59] <GenNMX> mage__: You can have mutliple swap partitions with different priorities across different drives. This can speed things up if you find your OS swapping a good bit.
[03:59] <larson9999> office space and the big lebawski.  i could watch those over and over forever.  well, once a month anyway.
[03:59] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Same way, ctrl-alt-f1?
[03:59] <r00723r0> sure
[03:59] <r00723r0> or however
[04:00] <bruce_> evening all.
[04:00] <puff> larson9999: I'm sorry for your loss.
[04:00] <mage__> GenNMX: hes got two partitions one drive
[04:00] <josue> y como entro en esos canales?
[04:00] <GenNMX> Oh, well that's silly
[04:00] <josue> ALOOO
[04:00] <shiester_miester> greetings all
[04:00] <GenNMX> Nutubuntu: You can resize swap partitions...
[04:00] <dml> josue: type "/join #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <puff> Also, I put the DVD into the tray and close it and it seems to take my system a good 30-60 seconds to notice it's there.
[04:00] <dml> josue: without quotes.
[04:00] <chihau> yo2k: whats plugins for example?
[04:00] <bruce_> new system. ! ubuntu is flying!!!. just had to share
[04:00] <puff> Any idea why this is, if it's fixable?
[04:00] <Nutubuntu> mage__  & GenNMX I understand ... I did not know that (about the memory dump); no point in the big swap then. Just one swap.
[04:01] <sebas_> how do I start X after ctrl+alt+F1?
[04:01] <avidal> For some reason, I can't get the nvidia driver to work correctly.  I can pastebin the xorg log and xorg.conf easily.  Is there anything else I should pastebin to provide extra info while I'm at it?
[04:01] <r00723r0> sebas_: control+alt+f7
[04:01] <yo2k> chihau, plugin for javascript / flash / or update the lates version
[04:01] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Ok, I've recovered back, I've never had a problem with beryl before...Is it unsafe to restart it?
[04:01] <larson9999> lol@puff.  down there somewhere, let me have another look.
[04:01] <r00723r0> it's not starting X, it's switching back to it
[04:01] <shiester_miester> sebas: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:01] <shiester_miester> thats if ur using gnome
[04:01] <avidal> I also have another problem that I'll ask about after I fix that one.
[04:01] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: NO!
[04:01] <shiester_miester> ?
[04:01] <r00723r0> he switched to a screen
[04:01] <r00723r0> he wants to switch back
[04:01] <r00723r0> not restart X
[04:02] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: it's safe to do most things in linux
[04:02] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: try it
[04:02] <sebas_> doesn't it work with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[04:02] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: see what happens
[04:02] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Ok.
[04:02] <mage__> Nutubuntu: I'm writing how I'd configure it
[04:02] <chihau> yo2k: before the install, i was upgraded the system
[04:02] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: if it doesn't work do the process again
[04:02] <r00723r0> sebas_: it does, but you don't want to restart X
[04:02] <shiester_miester> oh ok, i thought he had used the ctrl+whatever+f1 to leave x and go back to the console
[04:02] <yo2k> chihau, yup...
[04:02] <r00723r0> sebas_: it does, but you want to switch back
[04:02] <r00723r0> sebas_: you don't want to restart X
[04:02] <yo2k> chihau, sudo apt-get update
[04:02] <Nutubuntu> t/y mage__ -- that's awfully nice of you! (I *REALLY* like linux, and Ubuntu in particular. You meet the best people!)
[04:03] <shiester_miester> oh ok...thats how ive always been doing it :P what is the better way?
[04:03] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Set to go...Appreciate it...
[04:03] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: :)
[04:03] <yo2k> someone to guide me to setup smartlink modem at laptop acer aspire 1400, ubuntu 7.04?
[04:03] <chihau> yo2k: yes, with apt-get
[04:03] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: you must remember that beryl is beta software
[04:03] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: no software, and especially no beta software, will work correctly all the time
[04:03] <Shaon> Hmm, strange. I think Firefox decided to not render anything.
[04:03] <chihau> yo2k: my system is updated
[04:03] <yo2k> chihau, yes...
[04:04] <shiester_miester> Shaon, what do you mean?
[04:04] <benpete22> hello
[04:04] <shiester_miester> hi
[04:04] <Shaon> Firefox's toolbars are the only thing that loads when I start up Firefox
[04:04] <yo2k> chihau: sudo apt-get upgrade bla bla bla
[04:04] <benpete22> hello
[04:04] <shiester_miester> :O that sucks
[04:05] <larson9999> the cat on animal change has 1000 cactus spines in it.  ouch.
[04:05] <benpete22> does any one know how to play mp3s on the live cd
[04:05] <larson9999> look worse than the porcupine dogs
[04:05] <chihau> yo2k: my system is updated
[04:05] <shiester_miester> animal change?
[04:05] <mage__> Nutubuntu: with cpio you'd copy the ext3 file system or does that do the individual files?
[04:05] <benpete22> hello
[04:05] <Shaon> My homepage has a web-based IM service that works with pop-ups, and the pop-ups are loading fine.
[04:05] <Shaon> The main window isn't.
[04:05] <shiester_miester> hi, benpete22
[04:06] <shiester_miester> Shaon, thats odd
[04:06] <Shaon> Fixed!
[04:06] <yo2k> chihau: can you send some script for me ?
[04:06] <benpete22> does any one know how to play mp3s from the live cd
[04:06] <shiester_miester> how did u fix it?
[04:06] <yo2k> benpete22: use xmms
[04:06] <shiester_miester> benpete22, you already asked that
[04:06] <Shaon> For some reason it resized itself so only toolbars would show up
[04:06] <benpete22> no one ansered
[04:06] <benpete22> what is xmms
[04:06] <avidal> xorg.conf:  http://www.beerputer.com/alex/xorg.conf    xorg log:  http://www.beerputer.com/alex/xorg.log.txt
[04:07] <chihau> yo2k: old on
[04:07] <avidal> Whenever I set my driver to 'nvidia' in xorg.conf, I get the error in xorg.log
[04:07] <avidal> That it can't find the nvidia driver
[04:07] <chihau> yo2k: hold on
[04:07] <avidal> Even though I have it installed
[04:07] <shiester_miester> xmms is a media player that is far inferior to rhythmobs :P
[04:07] <Jimmey> benpete22, which version of Ubuntu?
[04:07] <shiester_miester> *rhythmbox
[04:07] <Jimmey> avidal, did you install nvidia-glx?
[04:07] <avidal> oh woops, need to set perms
[04:07] <Shaon> Otherwise, so far, I've had Ubuntu installed since yesterday and I've been using it far more than XP
[04:07] <avidal> pretty sure jimmey, i'll double check
[04:07] <benpete22> idk im looking
[04:07] <shiester_miester> yeah ubuntu > xp for most things
[04:08] <Shaon> I have no idea why but I'm a huge fan of it
[04:08] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  I believe you can tell cpio to copy the individual files and directories -- see http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[04:08] <shiester_miester> (ubuntu + beryl + wine) > everything
[04:08] <Shaon> Only thing I use XP for is for gaming (I play LOTRO >.>) and Photoshop
[04:08] <Beta-guy> how can I get Adobe flash for PS3 Linux?
[04:08] <avidal> Jimmey: nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[04:08] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Out of curiosity, what does ctrl+alt+prntscreen do?
[04:08] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: not sure
[04:08] <shiester_miester> Shaon, you can use ubuntu for gaming too :D
[04:08] <Jimmey> avidal, have you install the linux-restricted modules? Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:08] <Shaon> Don't think
[04:08] <r00723r0> PurpZeY: probably a definable shortcut
[04:08] <shiester_miester> use wine, most games can play just fine
[04:08] <PurpZeY> r00723r0: Fair enough...It worked...;)
[04:09] <shiester_miester> Shaon, yes, i do think so
[04:09] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: that's a lie
[04:09] <avidal> Jimmey: 7.04
[04:09] <jmac532> what is the command for listing the files in a directory?
[04:09] <gnosis> make a screenshot from window with focus
[04:09] <shiester_miester> no its not
[04:09] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: most games do not work fine with wine
[04:09] <avidal> Jimmey: And yes, I installed linux-restricted
[04:09] <redcard> shiester_miester: that's very misleading
[04:09] <shiester_miester> ok ill rephrase, most of MY games work on wine
[04:09] <shiester_miester> and i have quite a few
[04:09] <Shaon> I will be in total love if LOTRO works with Wine
[04:09] <avidal> jmac532: ls
[04:09] <redcard> Shaon: It doesn't.
[04:09] <atlantis> anyone know how to access root account on ubuntu ---- it seems to have vanished.
[04:09] <Shaon> Well D:
[04:09] <shiester_miester> you could always try it?
[04:10] <r00723r0> atlantis: you can't use root directly
[04:10] <r00723r0> instead
[04:10] <yo2k> atlantis: sudo su -
[04:10] <shiester_miester> or check the appdb
[04:10] <r00723r0> login regularly
[04:10] <mage__> Nutubuntu: oic, yea that -sparce is good if you have any sparsely filled files
[04:10] <puff> atlantis: sudo -s
[04:10] <redcard> Shaon: And something to note.. Wine usually cuts game performance, on many games, significantly.
[04:10] <Jimmey> avidal, did you do "sudo nvidia-glx config enable"?
[04:10] <jmac532> thanks, I tried that: ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$ IS
[04:10] <jmac532> bash: IS: command not found
[04:10] <puff> atlantis: The question is, why do you *want* to?
[04:10] <shiester_miester> redcard, bs it does
[04:10] <avidal> Jimmey: don't think so, i'll try
[04:10] <Shaon> Looks like I won't be dropping XP anytime soon then :(
[04:10] <atlantis> I did use sudo and su and still can't get access to install things like limewire etc.
[04:10] <shiester_miester> doesnt do it on mine...some games actually run better
[04:10] <r00723r0> puff, yo2k, your methods are wrong, if you want a true root environment it's sudo -i
[04:10] <redcard> shiester_miester: It does.
[04:10] <shiester_miester> for example, stalker
[04:10] <TaJMoX> !resolution
[04:10] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:10] <benpete22> hello
[04:10] <benpete22> im back
[04:10] <puff> atlantis: It is not, as some thing, impossible and always wrong to run a root shell.  It is, however, almost always wrong :-).
[04:10] <Shaon> One of my favorite chat protocols doesn't have a working cilent for Linux anyway.
[04:10] <avidal> Jimmey: nvidia-glx: command not found
[04:10] <shiester_miester> but it certainly dones uniformly cut the performance of every game ever
[04:10] <yo2k> r00723r0: ok... sorry..
[04:11] <Wesley> puff
[04:11] <benpete22> i have version 7.04
[04:11] <Wesley> i want your mother's sister's daughter's cousin's best friend's body
[04:11] <r00723r0> yo2k: for what?
[04:11] <jmac532> oh, ls not Is....
[04:11] <r00723r0> yo2k: trying to help you out :)
[04:11] <Jimmey> avidal, sorry, it's "nvidia-glx-config enable"
[04:11] <redcard> shiester_miester: I've been in linux for over ten years.  I don't think being dishonest with people is helping the cause.
[04:11] <avidal> Jimmey: Done.  Didn't get any output
[04:11] <shiester_miester> redcard, im not being dishonest, im stating facts from my experience of ubuntu
[04:11] <shiester_miester> what would i gain about lying about this?
[04:11] <yo2k> i try to setup modem in 7.04, in 2 days not solved...
[04:11] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: you should have said that your games run well in wine
[04:11] <jmac532> ok, I need to change directories to a USB drive names IOMAGIC
[04:11] <Jimmey> avidal, maybe try CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE now
[04:11] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: not that most games run well in wine
[04:11] <yo2k> r00723r0: i try to setup modem in 7.04, in 2 days not solved...
[04:12] <avidal> Jimmey: Looking at xorg.conf, it's still showing 'nv' as my driver
[04:12] <r00723r0> yo2k: any specific information so i can help?
[04:12] <gnosis> atlantis sudo passwd (change a password for root), next system-administrator-login window - security - allow local administraor to....
[04:12] <Jimmey> Yeah, I saw that
[04:12] <yo2k> r00723r0: smartlink, in my laptop
[04:12] <GenNMX> What's an easy way to remove all files, excluding *.foo?
[04:12] <shiester_miester> true, and i DID say that
[04:12] <Jimmey> avidal, I saw that doo
[04:12] <r00723r0> yo2k: is it wireless?
[04:12] <carrasco> a
[04:12] <carrasco> a
[04:12] <carrasco> a
[04:12] <ahmed> guys any way to have a vedio background in ubuntu as in vista ?
[04:12] <shiester_miester> straight after, i rephrased what i said
[04:12] <avidal> Jimmey: And the line: Load  "glx" is commented out
[04:12] <Shaon> A friend of mine made a bot that connects to his server and relays messages to and from the other protocol. Him and I use it and it works usually
[04:12] <ahmed> ??
[04:12] <yo2k> r00723r0: no , internal modem in acer aspire 1400
[04:12] <avidal> So what did that config command do?
[04:12] <anandanbu> i have created a GPG key and where can i find the id_dsa.pub file
[04:12] <r00723r0> yo2k: phone line?
[04:12] <redcard> Shaon: You can try LOTRO if you wish.. but, as I said, the more graphically intensive game is, the comparison to windows running the game grows wider.
[04:13] <Jimmey> avidal, did you "sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[04:13] <atlantis> I hear you can get these cool effects for ubuntu, anyone know what its called and/or how to use it
[04:13] <yo2k> r00723r0: yes
[04:13] <r00723r0> Jimmey: you spelled it wrong, it's dpkg
[04:13] <APRi0Ri> Can anyone help me with connection through SSL to a non-SSL speaking server???
[04:13] <shiester_miester> atlantis, its called beryl or compiz
[04:13] <Jimmey> atlantis, beryl
[04:13] <r00723r0> yo2k: never worked with that, sorry
[04:13] <avidal> Jimmey: I'm running it now
[04:13] <Jimmey> r00723r0, cheers
[04:13] <ahmed> guys any way to have a vedio background in ubuntu as in vista ?
[04:13] <atlantis> ahhh just install and it works or does it need config.
[04:13] <TaJMoX> using fglrx how do I get custom resolution modes?  editing xorg.conf does nothing - and using aticonfig --resolution=(my modes) I get the error: "Error: Section # Expected"
[04:13] <yo2k> r00723r0: ok...
[04:13] <Shaon> Redcard: My machine is new but has a fairly aged graphics card; LOTRO runs pretty well on it so I'm not really going to bother messing with it in Wine
[04:13] <avidal> Should I let it autodetect?
[04:13] <Stoffer> is there any way I can see what programs are using the most RAM?
[04:13] <r00723r0> APRi0Ri: you can't do it securely
[04:13] <yo2k> Stoffer: top
[04:14] <Jimmey> avidal, for what?
[04:14] <zeeeee> bruenig, just fyi, i've been reading through acetone. it's totally shady!! it actually downloads and runs a poweriso binary from the acetone-team.org website, and uses that to do all the conversions.
[04:14] <Nutubuntu> Stoffer -  top
[04:14] <eX|Joe> guys, can anyone help me on ktorrent rss regular expression filtering?
[04:14] <Shaon> In other news I completely owned a site that tried to pull a drive-by download on me
[04:14] <avidal> Jimmey: the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <shiester_miester> redcard, your statement about graphically intensive games running poorly on wine is not always true, stalker runs quite well and is extremely graphically intensive
[04:14] <r00723r0> Shaon: ?
[04:14] <avidal> Jimmey: It wants to autodetect my display
[04:14] <Shaon> Specifically WinAntiVirus
[04:14] <avidal> Jimmey: and select the driver
[04:14] <redcard> shiester_miester: I said as compared to windows, and yes, it is.
[04:14] <APRi0Ri> what do you mean r00723r0?
[04:14] <Jimmey> avidal, for most things, you just need to press enter. Just make sure the select the "nvidia" driver. For you display, it's okay to let it autodetect.
[04:14] <r00723r0> APRi0Ri: SSL is required on both ends
[04:14] <Shaon> It was like 'You have viruses download this spyware!' and I was like 'Ahahahha no.'
[04:15] <r00723r0> Shaon: first day on the internet?
[04:15] <mage__> Not falling for it != owning them
[04:15] <shiester_miester> although you are right, since global illumination doesnt work in stalker in linux, but does in windows
[04:15] <atlantis> I can't get beryl to apply the options selected. is there an apply/confirm option?!?
[04:15] <APRi0Ri> So this won't work as I think it would have?:  http://www.stunnel.org/examples/generic_tunnel.html
[04:15] <Shaon> No, I use StumbleUpon and one of the sites had it as an ad
[04:15] <shiester_miester> atlantis, beryl should apply options as soon as you check them :S
[04:15] <p1ls> hey when im trying to burn a cd iso i have an error, so i found the drivers i need killall -SIGUSR1 conky
[04:15] <shiester_miester> i mean, as soon as you change them
[04:15] <p1ls> Check http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html#d
[04:15] <redcard> shiester_miester: I'm not saying WINE is bad, but it is not helping linux gaming to run games on wine.
[04:15] <r00723r0> APRi0Ri: think about it
[04:15] <Stoffer> yo2k, Nutubuntu - thanks.  Those numbers don't add up to the 30% my system monitor is reporting.  It also says 40% in use as cache...what does that mean?
[04:15] <p1ls> and idk how to install em
[04:16] <r00723r0> APRi0Ri: only the tunnel part will be secure
[04:16] <atlantis> I can't get beryl to apply the options selected. is there an apply/confirm option?!?
[04:16] <r00723r0> APRi0Ri: from the tunnel to the server, it won't
[04:16] <APRi0Ri> haha gnosis
[04:16] <mage__> Shaon: I'm sitting here thinking "<Shaon> hahah they didn't trick me this time! I so pwned them!"
[04:16] <ahmed> guys any way to have a vedio background in ubuntu as in vista ?
[04:16] <shiester_miester> redcard, why not? being able to play games is better than not being able to
[04:16] <mage__> ahmed: grab a copy from somone who has vista
[04:16] <mage__> :p
[04:16] <APRi0Ri> Immanuel Kant is funky
[04:16] <Shaon> No I'm just inifinitely amused by it. I do that.
[04:16] <Nutubuntu> APRi0Ri -  tunneling allows you to send protocol "A" traffic through a network that only understands protocol "B" -- but both endpoints have to understand protocol "A"
[04:16] <avidal> Jimmey: Okay, done.  Gonna try restarting it.
[04:16] <yo2k> Stoffer: your chace use 40%
[04:16] <xtknight> why does my time always get out of sync?  it's been this way for like 3 months and i'm really getting tired of it.  'sudo ntpdate-debian' always seems to fix it.  can somebody help me setup a cron job to run this every 5 hours or so?  ntpd just doesnt seem to work, additionally few people seem to know how to set it up properly
[04:17] <avidal> Jimmey: It's just CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE right?
[04:17] <atlantis> does vista do the check like xp ..... anyone know a work-around for vista
[04:17] <shiester_miester> Shaon, you must be pretty damn amused then :P
[04:17] <Jimmey> avidal, right. Let me know how it goes
[04:17] <mage__> xtknight: hey whats the package name for ntpd?
[04:17] <shiester_miester> atlantis, yes it does
[04:17] <redcard> shiester_miester: Because people aren't going to code games for linux if they know it "kinda works" in Wine.
[04:17] <shiester_miester> redcard, thats true, it would be way better if we could just have a proper linux port of them
[04:17] <redcard> shiester_miester: I personally know of three AAA games that did not get a Linux client for it.
[04:17] <atlantis> just a crack or you need to get an app.
[04:17] <xtknight> mage__, ntpdate i think
[04:18] <Shaon> Anyway my problems are solved and I'm still a total linux noob so I can't really help anyone else so bye
[04:18] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: the only way to get full support of games on linux is for linux itself to become popular
[04:18] <xtknight> mage__,  i have ntpd running and it doesnt even do anything.  so irritating :\
[04:18] <shiester_miester> yeah i know
[04:18] <APRi0Ri> "even though neither your email client nor your pop server need speek SSL.
[04:18] <APRi0Ri> "even though neither your email client nor your pop server need speek SSL.
[04:18] <APRi0Ri> even though neither your email client nor your pop server need speek SSL.
[04:18] <APRi0Ri> The traffic will be sent from one end to the other encrypted, even though neither your email client nor your pop server need speek SSL.
[04:18] <Stoffer> yo2k, I figured that much out.  But let's assume I'm an idiot.  the 40% in use as cache is unavailable for other use, correct?
[04:18] <APRi0Ri> ooops
[04:18] <shiester_miester> but linux wont become popular unless things have support for linux :P
[04:18] <grum> just updated my kernel using the inbuilt update downloader, rebooted and i dont think correct display drivers are installed now. i was using the restricted ati ones but now when i go to restricted drivers manager i get "your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[04:18] <r00723r0> APRi0Ri: that's wrong
[04:18] <shiester_miester> its like one of those recursive problems
[04:18] <APRi0Ri> i hate x-chat aqua
[04:18] <ahmed> guys any way to have a vedio background in ubuntu as in vista ?
[04:18] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: no
[04:18] <r00723r0> almost, but no
[04:18] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: games coming out for linux will not help
[04:18] <brucedes> hey, I was wondering if someone could help me out, I'm trying to remember the name of a third party wireless program for ubuntu, I used it before, but I can't remember the name, any ideas what it could be?
[04:18] <Jimmey> !offtopic
[04:18] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:18] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: at least not much
[04:19] <yo2k> Stoffer: cache in use for more quick in some aplications
[04:19] <EADG_> xtknight: just wondering... have you checked/replaced your MB battery?
[04:19] <avidal> Jimmey: No such luck.
[04:19] <shiester_miester> if there is more software for linux, people will use linux more, but companies wont make software for linux if too few people use it
[04:19] <mage__> xtknight: what problems did you have?
[04:19] <mage__> my ntpd works fine
[04:19] <APRi0Ri> http://www.stunnel.org/examples/generic_tunnel.html <--does that have anything to do with what I am talking about?
[04:19] <Jimmey> brucedes, wifiradar?
[04:19] <Jimmey> avidal, same error?
[04:19] <mage__> (forgot that I installed it :)
[04:19] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: if there is more software, not many people will use it more
[04:19] <xtknight> EADG_, i dont believe it is the problem.  windows doesnt have a problem with the time
[04:19] <avidal> Jimmey: Yeah, failed to load the nvidia kernel module
[04:19] <ahmed> guys any way to have a vedio background in ubuntu as in vista ?
[04:19] <xtknight> mage__, ntpd simply didnt do anything
[04:19] <brucedes> no, not wifiradar
[04:19] <shiester_miester> wont they?  isnt that one of the biggest reasons why people use windows?  to run software that doesnt work on linux?
[04:19] <xtknight> mage__, it ran, but it never touched the time
[04:19] <atlantis> still can't get beryl to apply options, how do I do that ?!?
[04:20] <mage__> xtknight: is it off by like X hours? and minutes are correct?
[04:20] <p1ls> hello, can anyone help me with conky, the problem is when i edit file ~/.conkryc, restart the conky, nothing changes
[04:20] <Stoffer> yo2k, oh, ic.  so if I ever get close to 100% between cache and program use, I should get more ram?
[04:20] <bruenig> GenNMX, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24793/
[04:20] <Jimmey> avidal, any reasons why?
[04:20] <xtknight> mage__, after day or so, the clock is five minutes behind
[04:20] <sam_> I have downloaded a .rpm file to my desktop and need to convert it to deb. When I try to convert it with sudo alien -d iscan*.rpm I get File "iscan*.rpm" not found. Can some one tell me what I am doing wrong
[04:20] <shiester_miester> atlantis, have you set beryl as the window manager?
[04:20] <redcard> shiester_miester: No.  Most people use windows because it works perfectly fine.
[04:20] <xtknight> each day, five mins behind
[04:20] <chihau> yo2k: i had installed fedora and i haved the same problem...
[04:20] <atlantis> no how do I do that ?!?
[04:20] <mage__> huh
[04:20] <atlantis> didn't see an option for that
[04:20] <redcard> shiester_miester: More games in linux won't make them switch over.
[04:20] <mage__> delete /etc/adjtime
[04:20] <chihau> yo2k: i had changed the ethernet and the same problem
[04:20] <shiester_miester> redcard, as does linux :/ actually my ubuntu runs better than windows does...it crashes less
[04:21] <yo2k> Stoffer: sometime cache 10% sometime more...
[04:21] <brucedes> he program is a GUI where you have a list of your networks, and the signal strength is shown by a colour
[04:21] <bruenig> GenNMX, make sure you don't put that script in the same directory, or if you do call it script.foo because it will be removed too
[04:21] <atlantis> How do I set beryl as the window manager
[04:21] <xtknight> mage__, k did that
[04:21] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: of course it crashes less
[04:21] <bruenig> atlantis, #ubuntu-effects
[04:21] <xtknight> mage__, what does that file do?
[04:21] <shiester_miester> atlantis, right click beryl icon, select window manager, beryl
[04:21] <Jimmey> sam_, try "alien -d Desktop/iscan*.rpm"
[04:21] <chihau> yo2k: but i dont have problems in other sites with flash too
[04:21] <avidal> Jimmey: Said something about nvidia.ko could not be found.
[04:21] <bruenig> sam_, do not use alien
[04:21] <avidal> Jimmey: But for some reason, that line is not in the log.
[04:21] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: furthermore ubuntu, like any flavor of linux, is technically superior to microsoft's products
[04:21] <chihau> yo2k: with lynx i dont have problems
[04:21] <Jimmey> avidal, wow, that's quite funky.
[04:21] <sam_> What should I use
[04:21] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: because linux is modular
[04:21] <bruenig> sam_, source or deb
[04:22] <shiester_miester> yeah...so then what do you think is the reason why people don't use linux?
[04:22] <Jimmey> avidal, did you use the restricted driver manager?
[04:22] <yo2k> chihau: if that script look good in windows, i think, the problem come on your browser
[04:22] <redcard> shiester_miester: Because they don't need it.
[04:22] <avidal> Jimmey: Never heard of it.
[04:22] <shiester_miester> lack of advertising?
[04:22] <xtknight> mage__, my 'hwclock' reports 10:12 pm EST.  my ubuntu linux clock reports 10:16 pm EST.    time is supposed to be 10:21 pm EST :\
[04:22] <Jimmey> avidal, can you get X?
[04:22] <mage__> xtknight: its a file thats supposed to help with clock drift issues, ie if your clock loses 5mins per day, it should have info to add a second every few seconds
[04:22] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: because windows is good enough
[04:22] <chihau> yo2k: yes in windows its ok
[04:22] <yo2k> chihau: lynk is text...
[04:22] <avidal> Jimmey: I'm in X right now using XChat.  I can only get in using the "nv" driver.
[04:22] <r00723r0> if it wasn't good enough then people won't use it
[04:22] <p1ls> when i have 2 files, bin and cue which one shoud i writte
[04:22] <jmac532> can someone help?  I need to navigate to a usb drive named IOMAGIC and a file there named tiger-x85-flat.img
[04:22] <atlantis> all I have is the beryl settings manager no actual direct-link to app.
[04:22] <shiester_miester> so do you think theres any way to make linux "good enough"
[04:22] <AposteRiori> APRiORi thx for help with nick idea
[04:22] <bruenig> !iso | p1ls convert the bin to iso
[04:22] <ubotu> p1ls convert the bin to iso: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:22] <Jimmey> avidal, change the driver to "vesa", log in graphically, then "System > administrator > restricted drivers manager"
[04:23] <chihau> yo2k: but i have the same problem with any browser
[04:23] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: it is good enough
[04:23] <chihau> dont charge nothing
[04:23] <r00723r0> shiester_miester: but windows came first
[04:23] <avidal> Jimmey: I'm in graphically right now, I can check it :P
[04:23] <shiester_miester> i guess all you could do is get people to install linux before they get windows
[04:23] <APRi0Ri> aposteriori..anytime
[04:23] <yo2k> chihau: some browser...?
[04:23] <grum> would updating the kernel affect the installed display driver?
[04:23] <shiester_miester> then they wouldnt need to get windows in the first place
[04:23] <redcard> shiester_miester: Linux is good enough.  THat's not the issue.  You asked why people won't switch.  The answer is , there's no reason to.
[04:23] <APRi0Ri> Did you take a philosophy course or something?
[04:23] <mage__> xtknight: turn off ntpd, run ntpdate, hwclock --systohc
[04:23] <chihau> yo2k: firefox, galeon, konquqeror, epiphany
[04:24] <yo2k> chihau: that all ok?
[04:24] <shiester_miester> so is there any way to do it, at all? ever?
[04:24] <mage__> xtknight: delete /etc/adjtime again if it appears and restart ntpd and you should be fine
[04:24] <avidal> Jimmey: When I click on the Restritected Drivers manager I get this error:  Failed to run /usr/bin/restricted-manager as user root.  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[04:24] <shiester_miester> or is it completely physically impossible to make linux popular
[04:24] <Loco> hello, has ubuntu ext 2 or ext 3 filesystem?
[04:24] <chihau> yo2k: the same problem with all
[04:24] <atlantis> all I have is the beryl settings manager no actual direct-link to app.
[04:24] <shiester_miester> Loco, ext3 is supported
[04:24] <mage__> well delete /etc/adjtime again if it appears before you re enable ntpd
[04:24] <Jimmey> avidal, ahh! Wow!
[04:24] <redcard> shiester_miester: I think that it's mostly impossible with this current generation.
[04:24] <Jimmey> avidal, what did you do!? haha
[04:24] <xtknight> mage__, sweet.  thanks
[04:24] <bruenig> avidal, do you have .Xauthority in the home directory?
[04:24] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  I'd like to see what your take is but will have to go in a bit ... will pastebin let you tell me where I'm potentially setting myself up for problems (if I am)?
[04:25] <chihau> yo2k: with wget its the same problem
[04:25] <shiester_miester> its probably something that will take a while
[04:25] <avidal> Jimmey: I have no idea :P  These problems started with the update to 7.04 tanking in mid-install.
[04:25] <mage__> Nutubuntu: seems fine
[04:25] <avidal> bruenig: Should it be in my users home directory?
[04:25] <bruenig> avidal, do ls -l ~/.Xauthority and paste output
[04:25] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  *very* cool :) thank you!
[04:25] <shiester_miester> i mean, look at me...i was using windows, and then a friend of mine convinced me to switch to linux when i asked him "why use linux" and he replied "why use windows? :P"
[04:25] <yo2k> chihau: ???
[04:25] <avidal> hrm
[04:25] <Loco> shiester_miester, i have to format a partition for the ubuntu feisty but i dont know wheter to format like an ext 2 or ext 3 partition
[04:25] <mage__> Nutubuntu: i'm giving up on my take, as I keep thinking of things that make it complicated ;)
[04:25] <brucedes> I remembered the program, it's wicd
[04:25] <xtknight> mage__, how should my ntp.conf look?
[04:25] <avidal> bruenig, Jimmey: -rw------- 1 root root 49 2007-06-02 13:00 /home/alex/.Xauthority
[04:26] <maynards-girl> i'm trying to eject my cd but it says that drive is busy and wnot.  I don't have anything using it (that I know of).  I also tried "sudo umount /media/cdrom1/" but that didn't work.  How can I unmount it so I can eject the cd?
[04:26] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  simplify, simplify ... complicated is how I got to what I'm fixing :)
[04:26] <yo2k> chihau: i make some appl in javascript+php, it's look ok in my browser...
[04:26] <shiester_miester> Loco, ext3 is the default partition so it must have some advantages over ext2
[04:26] <bruenig> avidal, sudo chown alex:alex ~/.Xauthority
[04:26] <Nutubuntu> Well, that and an aging HD that's starting to throw bad sectors...
[04:26] <bruenig> avidal, don't launch graphical programs with sudo anymore
[04:26] <yo2k> chihau: firefox/mozilla
[04:26] <avidal> bruenig: woops :P
[04:26] <chihau> yo2k: its not the browser becouse wget have the same problem
[04:26] <bruenig> avidal, lucky you caught this now, if you were to restart your computer in this state, you wouldn't have been able to log in
[04:26] <Loco> shiester_miester,  ok so i'll format it like ext 3, thanx
[04:27] <atlantis> Frustrating - How to enable Beryl, have no app link only settings manager - anyone have a step-by-step enabling
[04:27] <shiester_miester> if you wnt
[04:27] <shiester_miester> *want
[04:27] <avidal> Now what should I do?  You think that'll fix the problem?  Should I set my driver back to "nvidia" and then restart x?
[04:27] <Nutubuntu> Be well all - and thanks again
[04:27] <bruenig> avidal, it will allow you to launch that program, I don't know what you were trying to do to begin with
[04:27] <shiester_miester> im not sure what the differences between ext2 and ext3 are but it would be wise of you to research it
[04:27] <yo2k> chihau: i think wget is a downloader under text, not a browser
[04:27] <avidal> bruenig: I already can't.  I have to boot into the recovery console then type init 5, log in, then startx
[04:27] <mage__> heh
[04:27] <avidal> bruenig: roger
[04:27] <chihau> yo2k: yes i know
[04:27] <bruce_> avidal sorry just started paying attention whats the prob? im running the nvidia drivers and hanign no issues.
[04:27] <Jimmey> Nice catch, bruenig :-O
[04:27] <bruenig> avidal, oh, so now you can
[04:27] <mage__> Nutubuntu: pm me your email
[04:27] <grum> Can anyone please help me? I had the ati fglrx driver working previously. Updated my linux kernel today and now when i go to retricted drivers it says "your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"
[04:27] <chihau> yo2k: but not connect to
[04:27] <frutax> I'm running Feisty and I just bought a Logitech USB headset 350, but I am getting no sound. I think the device installed correctly because I can control the volume with the headset. I've also noticed that sometimes my laptop speakers have not had sound recently. What should I check on?
[04:27] <chihau> yo2k: but not connect too
[04:27] <mage__> just thought of how to do LVM with an eye for expansion
[04:28] <AposteRiori> grum I have the same problem :(
[04:28] <bruenig> avidal, make sure .ICEauthority has the same permissions
[04:28] <shiester_miester> frutax, is sound working in ubuntu at all?
[04:28] <yo2k> chihau: not connect? can you ping the ip web server?
[04:28] <grum> :/
[04:28] <Stoffer> top and my gnome system monitor are giving me conflicting information on RAM usage.  Top says around 7.2%, while the sys monitor says 30% (with another 40% in use as cache)  I have 1GB of Ram.  Is this normal?
[04:28] <avidal> bruenig: That particular problem has been happening since I first installed Ubuntu.  If I boot up normally, once I get to the login prompt, my computer will freeze up between 5 and 10 seconds.
[04:28] <TaJMoX> using fglrx how do I get custom resolution modes?  editing xorg.conf does nothing - and using aticonfig --resolution=(my modes) I get the error: "Error: Section # Expected"
[04:28] <atlantis> Just bought new computer thursday - shuttle 2gb crucial 320gb hitachi 256mb xfx pci-x 20-app-cinema fucker-flies
[04:28] <frutax> shiester_miester: yes through standard headphones, but the left channel goes out a lot
[04:28] <yo2k> Stoffer: normal...
[04:28] <Nutubuntu> mage__ -  ygm
[04:29] <sam_> No matter what I do alien cannot find the rom file to convert it
[04:29] <shiester_miester> so it works fine?
[04:29] <avidal> bruenig: .ICEauthority has same perms, but owned/grouped to my user instead of root.
[04:29] <shiester_miester> have you tried any other headphones other than the 2 already mentioned?
[04:29] <APRi0Ri> What's a good channel for SSL chatter??????
[04:29] <bruenig> avidal, right, your .Xauthority is now owned by your user too now
[04:29] <grum> do i need the latest kernel update .16 or should i just revert to .15 for working drivers?
[04:29] <atlantis> was using fedora7 now switched to ubuntu but it takes some adjusting
[04:29] <bruenig> now
[04:29] <avidal> Jimmey: I ran the restricted driver manager, and it said I don't need any restricted drivers
[04:29] <bruce_> atlantis. yeh its easier. heh
[04:29] <shiester_miester> frutax, to make sure its a hardware problem or software problem
[04:29] <redcard> grum: The updated kernel broke my stuff badly.
[04:29] <Jimmey> avidal, what does "lspci | grep nVidia" say?
[04:29] <redcard> grum: So.. I don't use it either
[04:29] <cheeseboy> how i add samba user?
[04:30] <Nutubuntu> And thanks again, all :)
[04:30] <yo2k> chihau: your web server is up?
[04:30] <frutax> shiester_miester: If i have headphones in through the standard headphone jack, it works fine but the right channel goes out a lot, but when i take out those headphones, no sound through the speaker, no sound through usb headphones
[04:30] <grum> mmkay
[04:30] <atlantis> Ubuntu rocks, if only I knew linux well enough to use Gentoo.... I would be in heaven (so I hear.)
[04:30] <avidal> Jimmey: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]  (rev a2)
[04:30] <frutax> shiester_miester: how do i determine if it is a hardware or software problem in this case?
[04:30] <AposteRiori> have problem, ubuntu fesity, I was using ndiswrapper with rt73.in (wireless on usb), was working perfect, now after update, is not working (of course, I do update of modules etc)
[04:30] <Stoffer_> someone just responded to my RAM question, but my xchat immediately crashed.  Whoever it was, can you please repeat your reply?
[04:30] <redcard> atlantis: Eh.  Theres not really anything ultra cool about Gentoo, to be honest.
[04:30] <shiester_miester> frutax, you could try some different headphones that you know work perfectly and see if its the same problem
[04:30] <bruenig> atlantis, archlinux
[04:30] <bruce_> atlantis. gentoo is not that tough. really. if you follow the install guide. its pretty easy.
[04:31] <avidal> Jimmey: I'm gonna set the driver back to 'nvidia' and restart X.  I'll hand-write the error that I get this time.  The one about the nvidia.ko file
[04:31] <redcard> atlantis: But don't use the LiveCD for Gentoo.  It's bad.
[04:31] <bruce_> atlantis its gotten way more user friendly. its still way geeky but much better
[04:31] <Jimmey> avidal, Alright
[04:31] <AposteRiori> atlantiss if you want gentoo look for jackass instal version, good
[04:31] <grum> you'd think they'd test things before putting the newer kernel it the update downloader thing
[04:31] <benpete22> does any one know about a good .Ogg to .Mp3 converte
[04:31] <bulio> how do I change ownership of /dev/hda5 from root to a user?
[04:31] <atlantis> I paid 1200 for a new comp. and said no way to paying someone for inferior software.... I've always dabbeled in linux, now its my only os..... gonna take alittle getting used to but it seems to do most anything I want for free
[04:31] <bruenig> bulio, you don't want to do that
[04:31] <Jimmey> benpete22, lame
[04:32] <shiester_miester> frutax, you can also try putting a standard headphone jack adapter onto the usb dongle of the logitech headphones, if you feel like buying yet another piece of hardware
[04:32] <bulio> bruenig, its my storage partition
[04:32] <redcard> atlantis: Well, the only downside that I found for Gentoo was that the compiling was not worth it.
[04:32] <yo2k> bulio: chown bla bla bla
[04:32] <bruce_> atlantis ubuntu is your best bet to learn.
[04:32] <benpete22> ???
[04:32] <bulio> sudo chown /dev/hda5?
[04:32] <redcard> atlantis: Everything else was nice, but nothing that can't be done in Ubuntu
[04:32] <bruenig> bulio, where does it mount?
[04:32] <bruce_> atlantis i dont recomend gentoo till you at least know the basics and a bit more.
[04:32] <bruenig> bulio, what is the filesystem?
[04:32] <bulio> bruenig, ext3
[04:32] <bruenig> bulio, ok so where does it mount
[04:32] <redcard> atlantis: If you want to "learn linux", Slackware still is the best place to start.
[04:32] <bulio> bruenig, /media/hda5
[04:32] <yo2k> bulio: chown user /file
[04:32] <benpete22> jimmey ???
[04:33] <bruenig> bulio, your username?
[04:33] <bulio> bulio
[04:33] <bruce_> hey all. quick question. will i see better performance by running hdparm or does ubuntu (running fiesty) basically take care of all that?
[04:33] <atlantis> that's right.... I pay bills and download music/videos and use gaim/pidgin.... how come there's not a pidgin for ubuntu yer
[04:33] <Jimmey> benpete22, that's the name of the converter... "sudo apt-get install lame"
[04:33] <omegacenti> Okay, If I just put a removable dvdrom bay drive in my laptop while in linux, how would I find out what it is called and how to mount it?
[04:33] <bruce_> atlantis pidgin?
[04:33] <shiester_miester> whats pidgin? :/
[04:33] <bruenig> atlantis, there won't be for 4 more months because of the discrete release model
[04:33] <benpete22> t oh lol thx
[04:33] <bulio> bruenig, its bulio
[04:33] <atlantis> Vista looks cool.... my mac is cool, but not worth the exspense of apple prices....
[04:33] <Jimmey> bruce_, shiester_miester, - Gaim got renamed.
[04:33] <greyfrog> omegacenti, look at /var/log/syslog for changes
[04:33] <bruenig> bulio, sudo chown bulio:bulio -R /media/hda5
[04:33] <teer2> Thank you, Team Ubuntu!
[04:33] <shiester_miester> oh :o
[04:33] <bruce_> ahh. thanks jimmey
[04:33] <atlantis> gaim's - new name
[04:34] <shiester_miester> yeah itd be nice if they added more features to gaim to bring it up to the level of "windows live messenger"
[04:34] <frutax> shiester_miester: thanks ill try that out
[04:34] <bruce_> anyone know why ubuntu is still using swap when ihave 4 gig ram?
[04:34] <atlantis> discrete release model ?!? - what is that about
[04:34] <shiester_miester> i still have yet to find a msn chat client that has as many features as messenger live
[04:34] <shiester_miester> atlantis, that means that they have a major release every now and again
[04:35] <yo2k> bruce_: all linux use that..., like windows
[04:35] <bruce_> hdparm ques? anyone know?
[04:35] <Stoffer> yo2k, why does the gnome system manager tell me different numbers than 'top'?
[04:35] <bulio> bruenig, thanks
[04:35] <omegacenti> greyfrog: last event happened 15 minutes ago, just plugged it in
[04:35] <bruce_> yo2k yeh ok. just curious.
[04:35] <AposteRiori> bruce_ because you using swapon?
[04:35] <Stoffer> yo2k, system monitor*
[04:35] <redcard> It might show up in backports, but the Pidgin release doesn't really have more than Feisty's GAIM release
[04:35] <bulio> bruenig, so now I can read and write to it?
[04:35] <bruce_> AposteRiori can i turn it off? i mean do i really need swap at this point?
[04:35] <omegacenti> Okay, If I just put a removable dvdrom bay drive in my laptop while in linux, how would I find out what it is called and how to mount it?
[04:35] <yo2k> Stoffer: that appl use a different way ...
[04:35] <atlantis> I just wipped out fedora 7 and that had it named as pidgin w/ updated ver. obviously. and then ubuntu release a month earlier with gaim.... kinda diassapointed not too much though.
[04:35] <bruenig> bulio, you own every file on it, I don't know how you have set your permissions from there
[04:36] <bulio> ok
[04:36] <AposteRiori> bruce_ just swapoff
[04:36] <greyfrog> omegacenti, try lspci?
[04:36] <atlantis> it all works the same .... I guess.
[04:36] <omegacenti> greyfrog: Ill try that.
[04:36] <bruce_> aposteriori in a term window? thats it?
[04:36] <AposteRiori> bruce end delete from fstab
[04:36] <AposteRiori> bruce_yes
[04:36] <bruce_> nice. hey thanks mucho aposteriori. i wont have any issues will i?
[04:36] <redcard> atlantis: If you absolutely need it, you can compile it from source, but the reason it isn't in Ubuntu is because Ubuntu froze before the Pidgin team settled their lawsuits
[04:36] <omegacenti> greyfrog: not there :)
[04:37] <Stoffer> yo2k, ok, so I should trust the gnome system monitor when it tells me that 70% of my RAM is being used?
[04:37] <atlantis> What is this from: "Forget it "Angel" You're Dreaming- you're one of us. One of us.
[04:37] <wobx> re
[04:37] <AposteRiori> bruce_ no I have 3gb ram i work fine
[04:37] <greyfrog> omegacenti, not sure then... keep asking I guess.
[04:37] <atlantis> whats up with the lawsuits didn't hear anything about it
[04:37] <bruce_> what flags do i use with swapoff aposteriori
[04:37] <omegacenti> Okay, If I just put a removable dvdrom bay drive in my laptop while in linux, how would I find out what it is called and how to mount it?
[04:37] <atlantis> thought they got bought out or something
[04:37] <omegacenti> thanks though greyfrog :)
[04:37] <wobx> can anyone tell me why there's a chroot line in the PS1 variable? echo $PS1 ${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$
[04:37] <redcard> atlantis: Basically it had to do with calling it GAIM.  So that's why they changed the name
[04:37] <yo2k> Stoffer: i prefer use top than another...
[04:38] <AposteRiori> bruce sudo swapoff for example /dev/hda2
[04:38] <redcard> atlantis: It never got to a lawsuit phase.. just the Cease and desists
[04:38] <atlantis> as opposed to what - : AIM - to close in similarity
[04:38] <bruce_> sweet. this should help. thanks aposteriori
[04:38] <jose> Hey there - I've just enabled my TV-out and would like to figure out how to launch Totem/Mplayer, using the "-display" parameter, to play on my TV. Can anyone help me?
[04:38] <bruenig> wobx, source the /etc/profile and echo that variabl
[04:38] <AposteRiori> bruce check it by mount -f where you have swap
[04:38] <avidal> Okay.
[04:38] <bruce_> aposteriori just used the -a switch. worked like a dream
[04:39] <redcard> atlantis: Yeah.
[04:39] <grum> how do i run a .sh script in a terminal window
[04:39] <AposteRiori> bruce yes indeed
[04:39] <derekS> grum: sh scriptname.sh
[04:39] <grum> thx
[04:39] <derekS> np
[04:39] <atlantis> I missed that whole phase with lawsuites - must have been using mac/i-chat
[04:39] <bruenig> grum, or chmod +x it and then type the path
[04:39] <avidal> Jimmey: The error was: /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko  file does not exist.
[04:39] <shiester_miester> lawsuits? who?
[04:39] <bruce_> anyone have an idea about my hdparm question?
[04:39] <avidal> Jimmey: I looked in that dir and found nvidia-new.ko, so I renamed it to nvidia.ko
[04:39] <wobx> bruenig: same output - what does it say at your pc? # set |grep PS1
[04:39] <redcard> atlantis: Calling yourself GTK Aol Instant Messenger does tend to get you in AOL's targets
[04:39] <AposteRiori> bruce but mount -f show you what is mount where ;)
[04:39] <bruenig> wobx, I am not using ubuntu
[04:40] <Jimmey> avidal, success?
[04:40] <wobx> bruenig: debian?
[04:40] <redcard> shiester_miester: The Pidgin/GAIM crew
[04:40] <bruce_> aposteriori right.
[04:40] <bruenig> wobx, no I mean to source it and echo the $debian_chroot thing
[04:40] <atlantis> fuck* aol there so downhill surprised they haven't went bankrupt.
[04:40] <shiester_miester> redcard, who did they sue?
[04:40] <avidal> Jimmey: Then, I got an error saying there was an API mismatch.
[04:40] <omegacenti> I just plugged in my cdrom drive and its not showing up. Can anyone help detect/locate/mount it?
[04:40] <bruenig> !offtopic | atlantis
[04:40] <ubotu> atlantis: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:40] <bruenig> !ohmy | atlantis
[04:40] <ubotu> atlantis: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:40] <wobx> bruenig: yes i already did same output
[04:40] <yo2k> Jimmey: why a can't compile an appl? can bot find stdlib.c why?
[04:40] <Lapinux> can anyone tell me how i go about changing permissions on a disk that has been mounted?  i tried running "gksudo nautilus" but then i dont see the volume in "computer:///"
[04:40] <redcard> shiester_miester: AOL threatened on multiple times to sue the GAIM/Pidgin people
[04:40] <bruenig> wobx, how could it be the same output
[04:40] <shiester_miester> why?
[04:40] <bruenig> wobx, the same output as what, as P1
[04:40] <bruenig> ?
[04:40] <redcard> shiester_miester: Trademark violations
[04:40] <avidal> Jimmey: Hrm, restricted driver manager popped up and told me to enable something and then restart.  I'll be right back again..
[04:41] <AposteRiori> Lapinux chmod (and magic seven) 777 directory
[04:41] <atlantis> Oops. My bad... forgot - trucker-mouth
[04:41] <bruenig> redcard, well aim, gaim, come on now
[04:41] <yo2k> Jimmey: some lib header *.c like to...
[04:41] <scoobydoo28139> hello i got rid of my ati tv card and got a hauppauge! can some one help me set it up in ubuntu?
[04:41] <shiester_miester> anyway im off, cya
[04:41] <grum> You are either not running this script from the console or simply do not have console ownership.  Requirement failed.
[04:41] <Jimmey> yo2k, to compile software, you need to install build-essential
[04:41] <jose> Can anyone help me get video to run on nvidia tv-out?
[04:41] <redcard> bruenig: Well, I agree :) It's kinda obvious to me ;)
[04:41] <wobx> bruenig: source does only reparse profile and reapply the variables..so the output of PS1 is the same as before doing source...
[04:41] <bruenig> grum, run it from the console
[04:41] <grum> in a terminal window?
[04:41] <bruenig> wobx, no, source it and echo $debian_chroot
[04:41] <bruenig> or whatever it is
[04:41] <Peps_> my laptop speedstep always kicks both cpus into high freq even when running just one task. is there a way to avoid that (i.e. keep one core sow and the other fast)?
[04:41] <omegacenti> I just plugged in my cdrom drive and its not showing up. Can anyone help detect/locate/mount it?
[04:42] <atlantis> ati is a sell-out I was very committed to them, heard they sold-out/merged.... went with the enemy nvidia
[04:42] <yo2k> Jimmey: i get an *.tar.gz, than i make, ... can't file like stdlib.c etc...
[04:42] <wobx> bruenig: now i got it wait a sec
[04:42] <redcard> bruenig: When I switched to it from the stuff I was using before (personally written stuff for myself) , I thought that it was an official client
[04:42] <bulio> I keep trying to use gparted to umount a partition so I can resize it, but i keeps saying the device is busy
[04:42] <wobx> bruenig: empty
[04:42] <bulio> how can I fix this?
[04:42] <atlantis> XFX 256 PCI-X
[04:42] <yo2k> Jimmey: so failed to make install... why?
[04:42] <SeanB> Can someone help me? I am using initramfs to mount my ubuntu partition so I can edit a configuration file.. I am not sure what syntax I should use for mount to make it read/write. Any ideas?
[04:42] <bruenig> wobx, that is weird
[04:42] <witless> is it possible to install ubuntu to boot off a USB flash memory stick, and put the root partition on software raid?
[04:42] <wobx> bruenig: but strange anyhow
[04:42] <bruenig> I guess I assumed it would be empty, but why would it be in there
[04:42] <Jimmey> yo2k, did you install build-essential?
[04:42] <omegacenti> nm Ill just reboot...
[04:42] <grum> bruenig: i was running it from a terminal window
[04:42] <cjae_> fsck 1.40-WIP fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve `UUID= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx` fsck died with exit status 8
[04:42] <avidal> Jimmey: Okay, the actual API mismatch was that the Nvidia driver used the API version 1.0-9755, but the X module used API version 1.0-9631
[04:43] <infamy> dumb question, is there any way to see like the button press on a joystick in ubuntu?
[04:43] <artabrahao> anyone knows how to compact a directory, folders and subdirectory in on file compact.gz?
[04:43] <wobx> bruenig: well would be even weirder if it was set
[04:43] <atlantis> peace-out too-drunk to type anymore..... later ya'll michigan weather is too humid tonight
[04:43] <r00723r0> artabrahao: can't do it
[04:43] <grum> oh console as in log out of x?
[04:43] <r00723r0> artabrahao: you need to first tar it
[04:43] <bruenig> wobx, maybe if you chroot into something, it sets a debian_chroot variable and so you actually see the top of your directory as root instead of as whatever subdirectory you are actually in
[04:43] <infamy> aka like the windows game pad tool
[04:43] <avidal> Jimmey: hrm, still getting a system restart notification.  i'm going to restart and see.
[04:43] <yo2k> Jimmey: build-essntial? how i do install ?
[04:43] <r00723r0> artabrahao: try tar -czf <targzfile> files
[04:43] <SeanB> Can someone help me? I am using initramfs to mount my ubuntu partition so I can edit a configuration file.. I am not sure what syntax I should use for mount to make it read/write. Any ideas?
[04:43] <Siridivi> Hello folks. My PHP doesn't work. Apache ignores the code.
[04:43] <Jimmey> yo2k, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:43] <artabrahao> > artabrahao: try tar -czf <targzfile> files
[04:43] <artabrahao> <
[04:43] <artabrahao> > artabrahao: try tar -czf <targzfile> files
[04:43] <artabrahao> <
[04:43] <yo2k> Jimmey: sorry i new in ubuntu...
[04:43] <artabrahao> thanks
[04:43] <r00723r0> artabrahao: you're kidding?>
[04:43] <Peps_> my laptop speedstep always kicks both cpus into high freq even when running just one task. is there a way to avoid that (i.e. keep one core sow and the other fast)?
[04:44] <r00723r0> oh ok
[04:44] <r00723r0> sorry
[04:44] <yo2k> jumanji:ok... i tri that. thank's...
[04:44] <wobx> bruenig: i know what a chroot is..
[04:44] <Siridivi> Worked when I first installed id, but when I do test pages, no go.
[04:44] <TaJMoX> Using ATI - how do i set custom resolutions?  using aticonfig --resolution=(modes)   gives me error "Error: Section # expected"
[04:44] <bruenig> wobx, right, maybe for some odd reason, when you chroot into something, it sets that variable and so instead of seeing /var/chroot assuming that is where you have setup the chroot, you just see /
[04:44] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, I'm not sure I know how to go about that exactly....
[04:44] <wobx> please anyone who's got ubuntu paste me an output of # echo $PS1
[04:44] <yo2k> Jimmey:ok... i tri that. thank's...
[04:44] <redcard> Oooh.. I don't have Wesnoth on this box yet.
[04:44] <greyfrog> Siridivi, did you install mod_php?
[04:45] <r00723r0> $
[04:45] <r00723r0> wobx: ^^
[04:45] <bruenig> that is what probably happens
[04:45] <infamy> so no one has a clue?
[04:45] <Siridivi> Where it points to the php.ini? Yes did that.
[04:45] <infamy> how to access a joystick information from linux?
[04:45] <cjae_> fsck 1.40-WIP fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve `UUID= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx` fsck died with exit status 8
[04:45] <SeanB> Can someone help me? I am using initramfs to mount my ubuntu partition so I can edit a configuration file.. I am not sure what syntax I should use for mount to make it read/write. Any ideas?
[04:45] <wobx> bruenig: hm could be..could look at gentoo's profile. must be similar as you also source profile after chroot
[04:45] <bruenig> SeanB, -o rw
[04:45] <Siridivi> greyfrog: Where it points to the php.ini? Yes did that.
[04:46] <AposteRiori> Lapinux You have few options, you can go to gksu nautilus, go to properties, and set permission
[04:46] <greyfrog> Siridivi, not sure then... checking to make sure it wasn't something simple ;)
[04:46] <bruenig> wobx, my ps1 is [\u@\h \W] \$
[04:46] <yo2k> Siridivi: maybe on apache.conf / httpd.conf, not in php.ini i think
[04:46] <Siridivi> greyfrog: yeah, that woud be nice.
[04:46] <Siridivi> Hmm.
[04:46] <AposteRiori> Lapinux or you can edit fstab and put options user, rw to path of mounting disk
[04:46] <yo2k> thank's guys... bye...
[04:47] <jose> Does anyone here have any experience with getting video to play on nvidia tv-out?
[04:47] <wobx> bruenig: what distro?
[04:47] <AposteRiori> Lapinux last (in my knowledge) is go (by terminal) to example /media
[04:47] <bruenig> wobx, arch, it was the same in zenwalk too
[04:47] <Peps_> my laptop speedstep always kicks both cpus into high freq even when running just one task. is there a way to avoid that (i.e. keep one core sow and the other fast)?
[04:47] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, i tried gksudo nautilus but then i dont see the volume in "computer:///" like i do when i launch natilus normally
[04:47] <redcard> I've heard good things about Arch
[04:47] <ubunt1> hey
[04:48] <ubunt1> how can i make total backup on ubuntu server
[04:48] <ubunt1> and put on directory
[04:48] <AposteRiori> Lapinux you going to mount point example /media/my_disk
[04:48] <rabiddachshund> do I really need syslinux to create a bootable flashdrive?
[04:48] <infamy> is there anyone that can point in the right direction?!
[04:48] <AposteRiori> Lapinux if you are not sure where - mount -f in terminal
[04:48] <r00723r0> how do i clean out unneeded dependencies from ubuntu?
[04:48] <r00723r0> kinda like --depclean in portage
[04:49] <bruenig> r00723r0, sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:49] <AposteRiori> apt-get autoremove
[04:49] <asdfddfsa> Hey guys, what would be the linux equivalent of 'fixmbr'? Would installing Grub help?
[04:49] <r00723r0> nice thanks
[04:49] <redcard> r00723r0: like they said.. autoremove..
[04:49] <redcard> r00723r0: But it will tell you when you need to do it
[04:49] <r00723r0> hehe ok
[04:49] <AposteRiori> asdfddfsa is one option but very dangerous
Super Grub Disc?
[04:50] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, its mounted at /media/disk, so i assume i change permissions on that dir
[04:50] <wobx> r00723r0: what distro?
[04:51] <AposteRiori> Lapinux yes
[04:51] <asdfddfsa> AposteRiori, what would be the best way to wipe the MBR.. all data on the drive can be erased without worry
[04:51] <rabiddachshund> aren't flashdrives bootable by default?
[04:51] <AlexSeif> Hi I need help with firehol
[04:51] <r00723r0> wobx, ubuntu, used to be gentoo
[04:51] <redcard> asdfddfsa: I'd use whatever OS you're going into next :)
[04:52] <tyler_d> anyone have any luck with tv out with nvidia 8800 and the proprietary drivers?
[04:52] <jose> Can anyone here help me get video to run under nvidia tv-out?
[04:52] <wobx> r00723r0: which flavor? breezy, edgy or feisty?
[04:52] <r00723r0> feisty
[04:52] <tyler_d> feisty fawn
[04:52] <frutax> is there some sort of driver i need to install in ubuntu for usb headphones to work or should they just work when i plug them in?
[04:52] <AposteRiori> asdfddfsa dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/(letter example hda) bs=32k count=1, it absolutely cleaning mbr
[04:52] <asdfddfsa> redcard, windows is useless, I can't boot into windows to use fixmbr because of the mbr itself
[04:52] <ubunt1> hey how can i backup ubuntu server total
[04:52] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, ok, it will let me read and write to that drive now, any idea how i change the name of that volume under computer:/// ?
[04:52] <ubunt1> and save in directory
[04:52] <ubunt1> tonyyarusso:
[04:53] <redcard> asdfddfsa: Right, but you can use a recovery CD
[04:53] <ubunt1> somehoere
[04:53] <AposteRiori> Lapinux coputer:/// is just link
[04:53] <ubunt1> AfterDeath: are you here
[04:53] <p1ls> HEY, i need fast help, im installing a game now, and it says inster cd 2, but i cannot eject the cd 1 dosent allow me, what should i do, im using wine
[04:53] <teer2> cron: recommended to run with Ubuntu?
[04:53] <ubunt1> teer2: ?
[04:53] <redcard> pils: What game?
[04:53] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, right, and under that i see the volume, i want to change how its named under that but it tells me i dont have permission
[04:53] <jose> ubunt1: tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys  --exclude=/media  /
[04:53] <p1ls> swat 4
[04:54] <ubunt1> jose but total backup man
[04:54] <teer2> any problems running cron with ubuntu?
[04:54] <MugginsM> you should be able to eject the CD from Linux
[04:54] <jose> ubunt1 yeah
[04:54] <p1ls> it says
[04:54] <ubunt1> jose man and apache 2.php and mysql too?
[04:54] <jose> ubunt1 it's total
[04:54] <p1ls> filed to eject
[04:54] <AposteRiori> Lapinux it'is impossible on runing mount
[04:54] <ubunt1> jose and apache?
[04:54] <p1ls> but i have to put the cd2 so i can install it....
[04:54] <jose> ubunt1 It's everything, save for those directories it says to --exclude
[04:55] <ubunt1> that you send me,where it save it?
[04:55] <jose> ubunt1 It backups everything on your main drive to backup.tgz - which ends up on the root of your drive
[04:55] <p1ls> any ideas
[04:55] <teethdood> what app can I use to open .img files?
[04:55] <jose> ubunt1 so - just put a path in front of backup.tgz
[04:55] <Wesley> i stalk women online
[04:55] <ubunt1> ok and then,how to restore for example only the apache directory
[04:55] <Wesley> i kidnap them and put them in cages
[04:55] <redcard> pils: The copy protection doesn't work on Wine.. but.. you should be able to unmount the cd by doing a sudo umount /media/cdrom
[04:56] <tritium> Wesley: warning
[04:56] <redcard> pils: Or whatever the CD Rom drive is
[04:56] <AposteRiori> Lapinux do sudo umount /dev/(letter), mkdir /media/(your choice) , and mount /dev/(letter) /media/(your choice)
[04:56] <ubunt1> i copy and paste and it start to do it.
[04:56] <Wesley> i mutilate their bodies to make them look like twisted pets while raping them forcing them to become my sex slaves
[04:56] <ThePioneer> Can anyone tel me how to start beryl?
[04:56] <ubunt1> jose are you here
[04:57] <avidal> finally fixed it.
[04:57] <jose> ubunt1 Is it OK that it backs-up to the root directory of your drive?
[04:57] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, right, i understand that i can have it mount where ever i want but is there a way to rename the shortcut under computer:/// that points to the mount point
[04:57] <avidal> Jimmey: I had to do this:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, then set my driver to "nvidia"
[04:57] <Jimmey> avidal, congrats :-)
[04:57] <ubunt1> jose and then how to restore for if something happend apache directory
[04:57] <spikeb> -new?
[04:57] <Geocritter> has anybody had one of the feisty updates hose their mbr?
[04:57] <jose> ubunt1 ah - hold on
[04:57] <spikeb> what is that?
[04:57] <ubunt1> jose ok man./
[04:58] <avidal> Jimmey: Still having an odd ass problem where I can't boot up without using the recovery console though :\
[04:58] <p1ls> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:58] <p1ls> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:58] <p1ls> ;-/
[04:58] <lostchild> Hello everyone!
[04:58] <teethdood> what app can I use to extract .img files?
[04:58] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, im trying to set up a nice clean, easy to understand list of shortcuts under computer:/// that will point to all my mount points so users dont have to browse to the dir's and can just use computer:///
[04:58] <Jimmey> avidal, try "sudo chown -R username:username /home/username" - replace with your username though, obviously.
[04:59] <Jimmey> avidal, glad to hear it's fixed..And on that note, I'll go to bed!
[04:59] <jose> ubunt1 tar xvpfz backup.tgz -C /
[04:59] <ubunt1> jose only the apache?
[04:59] <AposteRiori> Lapinux do you use windows? remember shortcut, ?
[04:59] <jose> ubunt1 Here's the page where I got everything: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[04:59] <spikeb> computer:/// will automatically show anything in the fstab
[04:59] <p1ls> whoever helped me, will cedega help?
[04:59] <jose> ubunt1 Actually, it backs up your entire system
[04:59] <ubunt1> jose can i pm you
[04:59] <jose> ubunt1 sure
[04:59] <Jimmey> Night folks
[04:59] <lostchild> Night
[04:59] <Lapinux> spikeb, are you speaking to me?
[05:00] <ubunt1> jose i'm not registered
[05:00] <spikeb> Lapinux: if it applies to you yeah
[05:00] <jose> ubunt1 hmm... I was not aware registration was required
[05:00] <ubunt1> jose ok do you receive what i write
[05:00] <Lapinux> spikeb, but under computer:/// its referred to somthing like 149 gb volume: disk, i would like to call it something more understandable....
[05:01] <spikeb> \ahh
[05:01] <Lapinux> i know what it is, but others dont
[05:01] <ubunt1> jose ?
[05:01] <lostchild> I cannot log into my Ubuntu server, it simply kicks me back to login
[05:01] <jose> ubunt1 nope
[05:01] <AposteRiori> Lapinux edit your fstab
[05:01] <jose> ubunt1 nothing
[05:01] <lostchild> Anyone have any ideas?
[05:01] <ubunt1> jose can you pm me
[05:01] <jose> ubunt1 just did
[05:01] <OzymandiasIV> quick question: which version of ubuntu should i download for PowerPC mac?
[05:01] <ubunt1> jose i didn't receive nothing
[05:02] <jose> ubunt1 ah well
[05:02] <avidal> erg
[05:02] <p1ls> can any one help me, i cant eject a cd ( installing swat4 using wine ) but i have to to change the cd's
[05:02] <ubunt1> jose enter in #ubuntuserver
[05:02] <spikeb> !powerpc
[05:02] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[05:02] <avidal> This Python IDE doesn't come with a manual.  You have to make a donation to get access to the manual
[05:02] <lostchild> I should be more clear I cannot login with a specific user.
[05:02] <spikeb> !powerpc > OzymandiasIV
[05:02] <AposteRiori> Lapinux you eventually must do restart to apply changes ;)
[05:02] <wobx> no one who can help me with my strange PS1 variable setting?
[05:02] <avidal> afk
[05:02] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, yes, im looking at fstab now, dont see anything about that drive yet
[05:03] <wobx> i have edgy updated from breezy
[05:03] <AposteRiori> Lapinux go to /etc/fstab
[05:03] <cinvoke> is there a debug program like the old dos debug program for ubuntu????
[05:03] <Lapinux> AposteRiori, im there, looking at it now
[05:03] <wobx> and PS1 is set that way in .bashrc
[05:03] <OzymandiasIV> thanks spikeb
[05:03] <spikeb> OzymandiasIV: you bet.
[05:04] <AposteRiori> wobx can You give  more details
[05:04] <AfterDeath> ubunt1: yes
[05:04] <wobx> AposteRiori: can we do that in /query?
[05:04] <AposteRiori> wobx sure
[05:04] <wobx> kk
[05:05] <lostchild> I could really use a bit of help, or at least a sounding board to make sure I've covered all my bases.
[05:05] <jose> Can anyone help me to get video playing on my nvidia tv-out?
[05:06] <lawncare> hey guys, anyone know of a program for viewing webcams?
[05:06] <DBLobster> =-O
[05:06] <cinvoke> is there a debug program like the old dos debug program for ubuntu????
[05:06] <rabiddachshund> Has anyone actually used syslinux?
[05:06] <bruenig> cinvoke, which does what
[05:06] <AlexSeif> can anybody here help me setup a firewall
[05:06] <AlexSeif> ?
[05:06] <sotec_prod> what's up with Fiesty's kernel updates lately? Seems every other week there's a higher version
[05:07] <bruenig> !firewall | AlexSeif
[05:07] <ubotu> AlexSeif: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:07] <p1ls> anyone ever played SWAT 4 on linux?
[05:07] <lostchild> Does anyone have any experence with ISPConfig?
[05:07] <sotec_prod> p1ls, I have SWAT3 and it got it installed using WINE, but it ran slow as hell.
[05:07] <cinvoke> bruenig :  lets u look at and modify the registers
[05:07] <p1ls> stoced_prod, on how many cds was the swat3
[05:08] <sotec_prod> 2
[05:08] <p1ls> how did you got to install the second one
[05:08] <sotec_prod> i have Game of the Year edition
[05:08] <p1ls> it tells me to put second  one
[05:08] <p1ls> but i cant eject the first one;-/
[05:08] <shijirou> sotec_prod: if you have beryl running turn that off before you run SWAT3
[05:08] <sotec_prod> p1ls, you have to end it somehow and then install the second disk
[05:08] <rabiddachshund> I need help making a bootable floppy
[05:08] <p1ls> ;-/
[05:08] <cinvoke> does anyone know of a program i can use to view the registers similar to the dos debugger?
[05:08] <p1ls> any ideas what i supposse to look for
[05:09] <sotec_prod> shijirou, i did that. didn't help the turtleyness of it
[05:09] <MugginsM> make sure you don't have a shell in the CD folder
[05:09] <MugginsM> because that'll stop it ejecting
[05:09] <shijirou> sotec_prod: wierd... used to have the same problems when I installed halo for the pc. when i turned off beryl everything went smooth as silk. what's your video card?
[05:09] <producemench> anybody using BRLCAD on edgy? I need help getting it to run.
[05:10] <sotec_prod> p1ls, if you use Crossover Office (i'm aware you have to pay for it, but there is a demo) it's MUCH easier to install multi-disk programs/games. there is an 'installation finished' button. easy.
[05:10] <Moniker42> hey, how do i mount an external hard drive?
[05:10] <p1ls> ill check it
[05:10] <sotec_prod> shijirou...hmmm, i'll have to try it again then. i miss that game
[05:10] <p1ls> but if that wont work
[05:10] <jose> OzymandiasIV Long live The Watchmen!
[05:10] <sotec_prod> Crossover is a much friendlier front end to WINE
[05:10] <p1ls> do you think i shpuld install it on windows and latr just play it?
[05:11] <rabiddachshund> are there any other linux support channels?
[05:11] <sotec_prod> p1ls, i'm sure there is some easy to access documentation for WINE that will instruct you on exactly how to do such a thing.
[05:11] <p1ls> i chceck wine page, it says
[05:11] <p1ls> ITS NOT INSTALLABLE, and wont run.. wired.
[05:11] <jose> sotec_prod Yes, but sadly, Crossover started out with an old version of Wine - so its compatibility, past its core apps, is lower than wine's
[05:12] <p1ls> jose, you play swat?
[05:12] <Moniker42> how do i mount an external hard drive?
[05:12] <jose> p1ls Afraid not.
[05:13] <sotec_prod> i'm still waiting for VMWare to integrate 3d acceleration so i can just play games on my virtual drive :)
[05:13] <jose> sotec_prod That would be the BEST
[05:13] <sotec_prod> indeed.
[05:13] <sotec_prod> jose, do you have sound in vmware server?
[05:13] <MugginsM> best would be actual Linux games :-/
[05:13] <slackmagic> Moniker42: usually you create a folder (mount point), then mount the drive via the mount command to that mount point - hoping that your external drive is USB, ubuntu should easily automount it though as soon as it's plugged in and turned on
[05:13] <Runinfear> hi, i need irc client in console
[05:14] <jose> sotec_prod yes, though I use virtualbox nowadays
[05:14] <p1ls> lol ... http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxoffice/
[05:14] <sotec_prod> i would rather play linux games in linux
[05:14] <naknomik> I changed my video card, and now X won't start, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server, but there's no xorg-server installed... what am I doing wrong?
[05:14] <sotec_prod> virtualbox better?
[05:14] <rabiddachshund> If I just copy the contents of a live cd to a flash drive, would it boot from that?
[05:14] <jose> sotec_prod I think so
[05:14] <sotec_prod> nice
[05:14] <slackmagic> Runinfear: take a look at irssi or BitchX (google for them)
[05:14] <non|linear> can anyone advise me on the fastest way to access/process files from virtulized xp?
[05:14] <sotec_prod> i checked out all the virtualization programs like that, but for some reason ended up with vmware
[05:14] <jose> sotec_prod Faster, easier to set up, more user-friendly.
[05:14] <sotec_prod> nice
[05:14] <sotec_prod> i'll try it agai
[05:15] <sotec_prod> i have plenty of hd space
[05:15] <Moniker42> slackmagic: where do i make the mountpoint?
[05:15] <Moniker42> can it be anywhere?
[05:15] <slackmagic> non|linear: virtualized as in vmware?
[05:15] <slackmagic> Moniker42: you create it through cli    mkdir /mnt/whateverfolder   or   /media/whateverfoldername
[05:15] <jose> err I mean
[05:16] <sotec_prod> lol
[05:16] <slackmagic> Moniker42: unless you're comfortable via the GUI
[05:16] <shijirou> Monikerz42: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=468316&highlight=mount+external+drive
[05:16] <master5o1> Hallo
[05:16] <p1ls> do you guys think i wouldnt have troble with cedega?
[05:16] <non|linear> slackmagic: sure, or virtualbox or crossover or parallels, only tried virtual box seamless, but it's so slow to open 'networked' drives
[05:16] <master5o1> VMware
[05:16] <jose> non|linear really?
[05:16] <sotec_prod> p1ls, i hear cedega is really nice....but it costs money. And isn't that the reason we all have linux? to avoid reaching into our wallets/purses?
[05:16] <sotec_prod> :D
[05:16] <jose> non|linear That's likely a unique problem, as mine open up fine.
[05:17] <non|linear> jose: yea, it takes like 15 seconds to display network folder contents
[05:17] <p1ls> sotec_prod, look
[05:17] <p1ls> sotec_prod, look http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=4267
[05:17] <jose> non|linear And none of the other VM programs take that long?
[05:17] <p1ls> wired
[05:17] <slackmagic> non|linear: yes it should be no problem, I for example transfer my files via ssh (winscp) from vmware winxp to my slackware gnu/linux distro
[05:17] <non|linear> jose: really?  these drives are vfat, corrently shared between dual xp/ubuntu... would ext3 be faster?
[05:18] <sotec_prod> p1ls, garbage in feisty, huh?
[05:18] <non|linear> i want to get rid of xp completely, but require msoffice and sigmaplot and corel for work
[05:18] <sotec_prod> oh well
[05:18] <jose> non|linear I'm doubtful as to whether it's the file-system that's holding you back - I'm thinking your VM networking might be off somehow.
[05:18] <non|linear> hrm
[05:18] <p1ls> ...
[05:18] <naknomik> I changed my video card, and now X won't start, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server, but there's no xorg-server installed... what am I doing wrong?
[05:18] <p1ls> dont tell me ill have to play swat on WINDOWS?
[05:18] <slackmagic> sotec_prod: I see reaching into our wallets as supporting those that develop well-coded software, if I have to spend money that is :D
[05:18] <sotec_prod> naknomik, use channel ubuntu-effects for that question. they will help you
[05:18] <sotec_prod> :)
[05:19] <jose> p1ls: Swat doesn't work in cedega or wine?
[05:19] <naknomik> sotec_prod: what's ubuntu effects?
[05:19] <p1ls> im just reading, dosent in cedega
[05:19] <p1ls> wine, dosent let me instert 2nd cd
[05:19] <sotec_prod> slackmagic, i don't disagree with that statement. But i am a po' man...
[05:19] <p1ls> can unmount it
[05:19] <non|linear> jose: are the 'newtorked' drives associated with the network options in virtual box?  cause i just used nat there  (simplest way to get net access)
[05:20] <GPabeL> I need some help, who knows a interface to program in c and java lenguaje ?
[05:20] <jose> non|linear Sorry man - not really a network guru
[05:20] <sotec_prod> GPabel, i think it's called Genie
[05:20] <non|linear> jose: same here lol
[05:20] <jose> non|linear just sounds like the only logical reason
[05:21] <p1ls> is there a program like Deamon tools on linux?
[05:21] <GPabeL> sotec_proc : thank you
[05:21] <non|linear> jose: are you able to access your networked drives like instantly?
[05:21] <rabiddachshund> I don't mean to be a dick, but I've been in and out of here all day and barely gotten one person to respond to my yes/no questions. I have a vista machine that is not payed off. I managed to get the live cd that I ordered from ubuntu to boot once, but I forgot to back up my files. I loaded windows, backed up my files and now it won't boot from disk no matter what I do. It won't even read the disk. This means I am forced to bo
[05:21] <sotec_prod> GPabel, welcome
[05:22] <Dr_willis> p1ls,  you can simply mount iso image files. No need for fancy tools like that.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:22] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:22] <jose> non-linear I'll check
[05:22] <mrynit> does anyone know of a good program that will sync podcats to an iPod and manage RSS feeds?
[05:22] <sotec_prod> rabidweinerdog, what is your question again?
[05:22] <jose> non-linear Yeah, it's instant
[05:23] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: have you tried super grub disk?
[05:23] <p1ls> Dr_wills, i have a problem with installing swat 4 with wine, the thing is it asks me for a second cd, but i cant eject the first one dosent allow me ( also unmount dosent work )
[05:23] <rabiddachshund> I have copied the contents of the feisty cd to a 1gb flash drive. will it boot?
[05:23] <jose> non-linear But, to be fair, they're all localhost shares
[05:23] <non|linear> jose: ok, maybe I need to play with my network settings, although I don't see why that would matter....
[05:23] <rabiddachshund> nonlinearno. where can i get that
[05:23] <Dr_willis> p1ls,  often ive copied the contents of ALL the cd's to a single dir and ran the installer from there.
[05:23] <sotec_prod> rabid, should. only i think you need usb support through the motherboard to boot like that
[05:23] <Frogzoo_> rabiddachshund: if you're don't want linux, on the drive, you need to restore the windows MBR - google is your friend
[05:23] <Dr_willis> p1ls,  having to swap out install cd's has always been a bit of a problem.
[05:23] <p1ls> so your saying, i should copy two cds, and run em from a dicectory?
[05:24] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: goolgle it, it's major common.  it will fix basically any boot prob you have, except physical damafe
[05:24] <Dr_willis> p1ls,  ive copied the contents of some games  on multi-cd's to a single dir. and installed them from there befor.. correct.
[05:24] <non|linear> damage*
[05:24] <p1ls> dr_wills, got ya, im downloaidng some patch maybe it will help, if it wont ill try your idea, if it wont ill go to windows install it
[05:24] <rabiddachshund> non linear. Thanks
[05:24] <rabiddachshund> frogzoo: what do you mean on the drive?
[05:24] <p1ls> and run it then ;] 
[05:25] <sotec_prod> p1ls, just like if you were to hypothetically download illegal software...same thing as copying it to the hd
[05:25] <p1ls> sotec_prod, just for a installation ;-P
[05:25] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: check ur dcc
[05:25] <sotec_prod> i know it. what a pain
[05:25] <deep`> I've modified some of the files in /etc, and now when i log in it sais "/dev/null - Permission denied", but it logs in anyway, and gives no error in syslog. Can i somehow see the files that tries to be opened?
[05:26] <rabiddachshund> dcc?
[05:26] <Spencer> I'm not sure which channel to ask this in, but what is the difference between Ubuntu and Edubuntu?
[05:26] <p1ls> what ya guys think about Ubuntu Hacks book, i ordered it for 8$ from amazon, is it good?
[05:26] <sotec_prod> yay
[05:26] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: i'm trying to send you the super grub disk iso via dcc
[05:26] <spikeb> from what i've seen of it, it's decent p1ls
[05:26] <deep`> Spencer: Edubuntu comes with alot of educational software
[05:26] <Dr_willis> p1ls,  i got it. had some good info. but its a bit out of date in some places now.
[05:26] <rabiddachshund> again, dcc?
[05:26] <jose> Can anyone help me get nvidia tv-out to work right?
[05:27] <sotec_prod> p1ls, personally, i don't think i want to hack ubuntu anymore than i have to. although, i would like to build my own kernel at some point. i'm sure there are things in it that i don't need
[05:27] <p1ls> dr_wills, does it teach you a lot, or just simple stuff
[05:27] <Spencer> @deep`: why can't there just be an apt package for all of the software
[05:27] <Spencer> ?
[05:27] <deep`> Spencer: well, there is too. But you might want to have it preinstalled. (
[05:27] <p1ls> what about linux programming for dummies anyone read that?
[05:27] <Moniker42> can someone walk me through mounting my external hdd?
[05:27] <sotec_prod> p1ls. nope. i'd lke to
[05:27] <slackmagic> Moniker42: mind if I send you a pm?
[05:27] <Paddy_EIRE> how do I show my kernel version
[05:27] <Moniker42> i had it mounted a while ago but it's since decided to not mount itself on startup any more
[05:28] <Moniker42> slackmagic: sure
[05:28] <pentagramjohnson> hey i have heating troubles with my computer. is there a way to change cooling settings with ubuntu?
[05:28] <p1ls> i saw samples, looks nice ;] 
[05:28] <pentagramjohnson> my computer has just been shutting down, but not getting overly hot
[05:28] <sotec_prod> i think writing my own linux programs would be good ole hair pullin fun
[05:28] <doctorow> I need a Linux calendering app that will reliably sync my halendar with a handheld PDA. I'm willing to buy any PDA on the market and switch to any PIM (I presently use Evolution) -- I just need to be able to carry my calendar around in my pocket. Any recommendations?
[05:28] <p1ls> Paddy, you can go t synaptic, base system, it will show you image-bla-bla and later version
[05:28] <^majik^> Paddy_EIRE: uname -r
[05:28] <spikeb> hmm
[05:29] <sotec_prod> pentagram, is your comp overclocked?
[05:29] <jose> doctorow: I'm told palmpilots sync with ubuntu
[05:29] <pentagramjohnson> overclocked? what do you mean by that?
[05:29] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: been on irc since '96, but honestly don't know what it means, it's an acronym for like direct connection something.... besically connect to you to send you a file
[05:29] <sotec_prod> nm pentagram.
[05:29] <pentagramjohnson> okay!
[05:29] <p1ls> lol ;] 
[05:29] <p1ls> pentagram, modified, for example cpu
[05:29] <doctorow> jose Palm doesn't make those anymore -- just the Treos. My last Treo, a 650, did NOT synch reliably with Evolution
[05:30] <pentagramjohnson> oh
[05:30] <p1ls> anyone plays cs here?
[05:30] <pentagramjohnson> my apologies
[05:30] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: what client you using?
[05:30] <SR71-Blackbird> hey any easy way outs for making own custom distro from ubuntu for personal use.. ?
[05:30] <pentagramjohnson> no major modifications
[05:30] <pentagramjohnson> im on a laptop
[05:30] <rabiddachshund> gaim
[05:30] <jose> doctorow: Ah... I got nothing, then.
[05:30] <doctorow> Jose thanks anywayt!
[05:30] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: did u get sgd on internet??? if not, i can dcc it to you quick, it's only 3.6 MB
[05:30] <sotec_prod> pentagram, some computer processors can be set to a higher speed than their factory settings will allow, but it raises the heating temp of the processor, so you need extra fans and possibly liquid cooling to keep it from turning into a stovetop
[05:31] <SR71-Blackbird> p1ls, yeah.. on wine
[05:31] <pentagramjohnson> im on a laptop
[05:31] <non|linear> it's an ISO, u just burn it to CD and boot to CD, and it will fix boot probs or just boot into OS, any OS
[05:31] <p1ls> sr71, any problems?
[05:31] <rabiddachshund> sgd? I am a complete irc n00b
[05:31] <sotec_prod> i think it's a waste of already fast processors, personally
[05:31] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: sgd = super grub disk, ill try to send again, it's like an essential thing you sdhould have anyhow
[05:31] <jose> Hehe, over-clocking was all the rage 5 years ago.
[05:31] <SR71-Blackbird> p1ls, well.. haven't done in feisty (after reinstalling) but i used to have problems related to memory
[05:31] <sotec_prod> jose, it was too, lol
[05:32] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: i'm trying to send now, do you see it?
[05:32] <p1ls> sr71, are you using ventrillo?
[05:32] <sotec_prod> 'hey look, i can fry my computer like an omlet with UT2004!!! cool!"
[05:32] <rabiddachshund> oh. I have gotten nothing. That may be because I am not a registered irc user
[05:32] <mzuverink> Im connected via ssh to my server and I want to install ntpd, whats that package called, there are three listed?
[05:32] <pentagramjohnson> i want to know if im capable of disabling the auto shut down that occurs when my laptop is "overheated". because it clearly has not been any hotter than usual
[05:32] <SR71-Blackbird> p1ls, what's that?
[05:32] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: in xchat, go to window>file transfer
[05:32] <p1ls> its like teamspeak,
[05:32] <sotec_prod> "i have a .2 speed increase on my 3.2ghz processor!!! cool!"
[05:32] <p1ls> teams communicate using that ;]  like on matches ;-P
[05:33] <jose> sotec_prod I still remember thinking "Cool! I can run NIntendo 64 roms on my PC, provided I over-clock and buy a 3D accelerator!"
[05:33] <zeeeee> help! i ran brought down my main network interface and my system just froze. i don't know what to do because i can't start any processes, can't kill x, can't log in on ctrl-alt-f1. this has happened before, whenever the network goes off.
[05:33] <zeeeee> *ignore ran
[05:33] <sotec_prod> jose, haha
[05:33] <sotec_prod> yea
[05:33] <SR71-Blackbird> p1ls, nah..we use the defauly
[05:33] <rabiddachshund> I appreciate it, but I've already found it online. I suck at irc so bad it's not funny.
[05:33] <SR71-Blackbird> p1ls, default
[05:33] <p1ls> aight
[05:33] <p1ls> you play in cal?
[05:33] <sotec_prod> speaking of which, i can't get the pcx2 emulator to run on this box...
[05:33] <rabiddachshund> Thanks for the help.
[05:34] <non|linear> rabiddachshund: that's cool, just trying to help out ;)  sgd is really simple, if you have probs come back here...  and good luck :P
[05:34] <mzuverink> anyone know what the ntpd package is called?
[05:34] <sotec_prod> rabidweinerdog, i don't pay attention to the internet-acronym-lexicons either...don't feel left out.
[05:34] <pentagramjohnson> i want to know if im capable of disabling the auto shut down that occurs when my laptop is "overheated". because it clearly has not been any hotter than usual. does anyone know how to change such settings in ubuntu?
[05:34] <sotec_prod> or...we can start a club!
[05:34] <sotec_prod> yay
[05:34] <p1ls> you want to install it from apt-get mzuverik?
[05:34] <zeeeee> can anybody help me out?
[05:34] <iMayKnow_> mzuverink, try ntpdate
[05:35] <mzuverink> Im using cli
[05:35] <non|linear> i am gonna do a clean install, is there any way to use the newest kernel without compiling?
[05:35] <p1ls> mzuverink, sudo apt-cache search name, sudo apt-cache search ntpd
[05:35] <p1ls> its there ;] 
[05:35] <sotec_prod> mzuverink, be careful, don't run the cli too hard. they don't like that. you have to be gentle, like stroking a kitten..
[05:35] <IcemanV9> mzuverink: sudo ntpdate <time server>
[05:35] <sotec_prod> run=rub
[05:35] <p1ls> what cli in one sentace
[05:36] <sotec_prod> command line interface
[05:36] <p1ls> aight
[05:36] <mzuverink> ill be back... see what I can do
[05:36] <mzuverink> thanks people
[05:36] <p1ls> pce
[05:36] <p1ls> aaah, no way i have to go windows and install swat ;] 
[05:36] <pentagramjohnson> i want to know if im capable of disabling the auto shut down that occurs when my laptop is "overheated". because it clearly has not been any hotter than usual. does anyone know how to change such settings in ubuntu? is it possible?
[05:37] <drwxr-xr-x> when is pidgin going to be in the Feisty suppositories ?
[05:37] <ballpoint_pengui> I have a potentially annoying newbie question... can anyone help me figure out how to set the name for a usb-based external hard drive?
[05:37] <sotec_prod> or, if you want to be exact and exactly provocative in a sexual manner, command line interface terminal, or the 'clit'
[05:37] <sotec_prod> :D
[05:37] <poningru> ballpoint_pengui: sure
[05:37] <ronin_> pentagramjohnson is options on battery icon
[05:37] <frutax> ok, i think i'm very close to fixing my usb headphones no sound problem: when I open Preferences >> Sound, and i click "Test" for USB Sound, i hear the test beep in my headphones. But I still get no sound from all applications ive tried
[05:37] <poningru> ballpoint_pengui: just when you format it just setup a 'title'
[05:38] <jose> frutax: mayhaps you need to change your default audio device?
[05:38] <poningru> ballpoint_pengui: you can format it in gparted
[05:38] <frutax> jose: sounds right, how do i do that?
[05:38] <p1ls> anyone got some cool interesting vidoes with some presentations/linux/security, in their favority section ;-p
[05:39] <sotec_prod> p1ls, i don't have any linux really, but microsofts new computer, i have to say, is DAMN sweet.
[05:39] <sotec_prod> one sec
[05:39] <ballpoint_pengui> poningru: If I understand correctly, I use gparted to set the title of "foo", and it will connect as /media/foo. Is that about right?
[05:39] <poningru> ballpoint_pengui: yes
[05:39] <Ghost_Auk> My update automatic program is not working:  says that there is a problem with two packages:  clvm & redhat-cluster-suite  (on ubuntu 64-bit OS)  Should I force purge those two, and try again?
[05:39] <sotec_prod> http://www.metacafe.com/watch/620211/details_of_ms_surface/
[05:40] <sotec_prod> try that p1ls
[05:40] <R00tBreaker> is the SSH service automatically installed with ubuntu 7.04 or do you have to download it?
[05:40] <sotec_prod> amazing is the right word i think.
[05:40] <jose> frutax: double-click on the volume control tray icon
[05:40] <sotec_prod> very, uh...un-microsoft of them to push something like this
[05:40] <artabrahao> qual o pacote do mc?
[05:40] <sotec_prod> mainly because it seems like it works.
[05:40] <poningru> Ghost_Auk: what is clvm?
[05:40] <jose> frutax: Then click on File ->Change Device
[05:40] <jose> frutax and then click on your USB headphones
[05:41] <artabrahao> what is the mc packag name?
[05:41] <frutax> jose: wow, thank you so much
[05:41] <non|linear> i am gonna do a clean install, is there any way to use the newest kernel without compiling?
[05:41] <p1ls> artarbraho, sudo apt-cache search name
[05:41] <Ghost_Auk> poningru:   a cluster program for multiple computers
[05:41] <jose> frutax: What the hell? It worked?
[05:41] <ballpoint_pengui> poningru: I think I'll give that a try. I'll back the contents up to another drive before doing that, but thanks in advance for giving me a direction to go!
[05:41] <sotec_prod> non|linear, install and it will update online to the newest version of the kernel
 I dont knos the nae
[05:41] <artabrahao> dont know the name
[05:41] <sotec_prod> mine just updated today to the latest
[05:42] <non|linear> sotec_prod: yea, but when i do that it leaves the previous kernel on the drive
[05:42] <p1ls> artabrahao, what you looking for, il find it
[05:42] <sotec_prod> non|linear, you can get rid of the older kernels if you like
[05:42] <sotec_prod> use synaptic
[05:42] <sotec_prod> i need to do that myself
[05:42] <sotec_prod> i have 3 of them in grub
[05:42] <frutax> jose: it seems like it should work now on a reboot, right? no, it's not working right now though
[05:42] <p1ls> sotec, whats the newswt kernel now
[05:42] <sotec_prod> 09, 15, and 16
[05:42] <sotec_prod> 16
[05:43] <p1ls> good i got 16 ;-p
[05:43] <p1ls> artabrahao, you looking for mc ?
[05:43] <SillyZ> are there any tools for tweaking sata or scsi drive performance, like hdparm ?
[05:43] <sotec_prod> seems like there's a new one every week now..
[05:43] <ballpoint_pengui> poningru: For what it's worth, here's what I'm doing: I have a laptop that would normally be a paperweight, and I've got it connected to my home stereo....
[05:43] <non|linear> sotec_prod: how do i get rid of the old kernels?  i always get rid of the auto crap in menu.lst, and then when i update kernel it just adds the new stuff to the bottom, will it erase old kernel if i leave auto crap in menu.lst?
[05:43] <p1ls> non|linear, base system,
[05:43] <CITguy> can anybody here help me with setting up samba?
[05:43] <sotec_prod> non, use synaptic, search for 'kernel'
[05:44] <p1ls> Synapti > base system > find the installed image-kernel..., delete
[05:44] <sotec_prod> pay close attention to the numbers in the filenames
[05:44] <jose> frutax: err
[05:44] <ballpoint_pengui> The portable drive has my ripped CD's on it, and I'm wanting to make sure I'm able to read the contents from either a Linux or XP <sigh> box...
[05:44] <jose> frutax: It should actually work right away, I think.
[05:44] <sotec_prod> and remove all but the newest, but make sure you don't delete ANYthing with the newest version number in the filename
[05:44] <sotec_prod> only old numbers
[05:44] <frutax> jose: damn, well why does the usb audio test work then?
[05:44] <wobx> well PS1 problem turned out not to be one
[05:45] <wobx> seems to be in every .bashrc
[05:45] <p1ls> anyone using conky here?
[05:45] <ballpoint_pengui> (The laptop is running Feisty, and rather well, I might add <grin>)
[05:45] <jose> frutax: Probably because it explicitly selects your USB headset as an audio output device.
[05:45] <sotec_prod> i have a question: how to you run a filesystem check from cli?
[05:45] <non|linear> p1ls: what do u mean base syustem?
[05:45] <jose> frutax: but Ubuntu's still using its default audio device - unless you've switched it
[05:45] <sotec_prod> fsck doens't work for me
[05:45] <sotec_prod> even with the livecd
[05:46] <rabiddachshund> nonlinear: it appears that all of the sites that host sgd have been taken down or don't work. Could you email it to me?
[05:46] <p1ls> non, in synapitc, look on the left side for section base system
[05:46] <sotec_prod> i had to wait for 32 reboots
[05:46] <jose> frutax: Now, if you ALREADY switched it - perhaps the audio sub-system is on the fritz
[05:46] <SR71-Blackbird> tell me sth. how do i schedule my ubuntu to hibernate at certain time?
[05:46] <ballpoint_pengui> So, I'm wanting to set up the portable hard drive so that it can be read from the stereo laptop (called "musicbox") and hopefully in the future can be made available via samba.
[05:46] <SR71-Blackbird> at?
[05:46] <jose> frutax: and now that you mention it - yeah, a reboot might actually work
[05:46] <Dr_willis> sotec_prod,  fsck /dev/whatgever
[05:46] <frutax> jose: ok let me try a reboot and ill brb
[05:46] <non|linear> sotec_prod: ok,ima just image and format whole disk and play aroind a bit, i'll figure it out ;P
[05:46] <jose> frutax: Couldn't hurt, I guess. Do feel free to drop in and tell me how it goes.
[05:47] <p1ls> sr71,  i think i saw a scrip for it wait ;] 
[05:47] <sotec_prod> non|linear, if you just use synaptic like i'm telling you to, it will save you time. why go through all the fresh install crap?
[05:48] <bruenig> SR71-Blackbird, do you know the command to make it hibernate?
[05:48] <p1ls> bruenig, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=355177
[05:48] <sotec_prod> if you have to, reboot, go into the grub menu 'esc button' and write down the exact number of the kernels, then use synaptic to get rid of the ones you don't want
[05:49] <SR71-Blackbird> bruenig, yeah that is the question actually
[05:49] <non|linear> sotec_prod: cause right now i have xp/ubun dual, and i want to reformat whole drive and set up nice partition scheme etc.
[05:49] <sotec_prod> THEN, edit menu1st to only show the one you want to use. done.
[05:49] <sotec_prod> ah
[05:49] <SR71-Blackbird> bruenig,  i can just put in at i guess
[05:49] <sotec_prod> well then, go nuts.
[05:49] <sotec_prod> good luck
[05:49] <bruenig> SR71-Blackbird, if you know the command you can just set a cron job
[05:49] <non|linear> sotec_prod: but i have probs installing virtualization apps with old kernel, otherwise i would just keep the 6.20.15 or whatever it is that ships with ubuntu
[05:49] <sotec_prod> god knows i've fresh installed this box more times than i care to count
[05:50] <sotec_prod> non, there is a fix for that as well
[05:50] <sotec_prod> :)
[05:50] <sotec_prod> i figured it out
[05:50] <tunganet> My friend gave me a dvd with videos in it, but i cannot mount the volume.  What do i do?
[05:50] <sotec_prod> non, did you try that 'anyanypatch'?
[05:50] <bruenig> tunganet, what is its name
[05:50] <sotec_prod> that's a vmware patch
[05:50] <bruenig> tunganet, the dev
[05:50] <tunganet> bruenig: what do you mean?
[05:51] <non|linear> sotec_prod: yea, i know the grub stuff, i just want to do a nice clean, good install cause i'm anal and concerned about how my os/apps are laid physically on the disk ;P
[05:51] <bruenig> tunganet, if you don't know its /dev name you haven't tried to mount it
[05:51] <frutax> jose: no dice :\ I still have no sound, but the usb test still works...its using ALSA if that makes a difference
[05:51] <tunganet> bruenig: mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:52] <tunganet> bruenig: >.<
[05:52] <bruenig> tunganet, ok so it is mounted
[05:52] <jose> frutax: alas
[05:52] <bullgard4> Using DHCP, what is the proper command to determine the IP address of one's own computer?
[05:52] <tunganet> bruenig: but it also says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[05:52] <tunganet>        missing codepage or other error
[05:52] <tunganet>        in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:52] <tunganet>        dmesg | tail  or
[05:52] <non|linear> has anyone here used existing installs in VMware?
[05:52] <jose> frutax: wait - check back on the volume control icon and see if your USB device is still selected
[05:53] <frutax> jose: yes, still selected
[05:53] <IcemanV9> where is <app name>.desktop located at??
[05:53] <sotec_prod> uh oh, bad superblock
[05:53] <AposteRiori> non|linear my, vmware with fedora nad windows (yes yes windows)
[05:53] <tunganet> what is it =\
[05:53] <bruenig> tunganet, sudo rm -rf /media/hdc ; sudo mkdir /media/hdc && sudo mount -t iso9660,udf /dev/hdc /media/hdc
[05:53] <AposteRiori> non|linear sr not now
[05:54] <tunganet> bruenig: i typed that in my terminal, it gives the same error
[05:54] <bullgard4> Wenn das LAN DHCP verwendet, mit welchem Befehl ermittelt man die IP-Adresse des eignen Rechners?
[05:54] <non|linear> aposteRiori: what???? totally confused on ur msg ;p
[05:54] <bruenig> tunganet, it should, perhaps the dvd is corrupted
[05:54] <non|linear> aposteRiori: oh, u mean u use existing xp in vmeare in fedora
[05:54] <IcemanV9> !de > bullgard4
[05:54] <tunganet> bruenig: ah... okay thanks
[05:54] <AposteRiori> non|linear yes, but not now, now ubuntu 7.04
[05:55] <bluebanana> hello
[05:55] <AlexSeif> ok I need help on firewall and a bot keeps replying
[05:55] <non|linear> aposteRiori: cool, how is spped accessing xp?
[05:55] <sotec_prod> !firewall
[05:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:55] <AposteRiori> non|linear good, is no problem with games ;)
[05:55] <sotec_prod> alexseif, try firestarter
[05:55] <AposteRiori> non|linear but is one big problem
[05:55] <Ghost_Auk> the package  clvm  is messing up my computer  (feisty, 64-bit)  :-9
[05:55] <Pirate_Hunter> What is Grub Error 17?
[05:55] <sotec_prod> ghost, nuke it
[05:55] <sotec_prod> :D
[05:55] <AposteRiori> non|linear i have usb wireless network is not using on vmware :(
[05:56] <kiosk> I am hosed
[05:56] <kiosk> can someone help
[05:56] <Ghost_Auk> sotec .. have tried to remove it, but the apt-get cannot do it.  So how to 'nuke' it?
[05:56] <AlexSeif> sotec_prod: I downloaded Firehol (advised of an article on LAMP)
[05:57] <sotec_prod> p1ls, did you watch that video link i sent?
[05:57] <Pirate_Hunter>  What is Grub Error 17 and how can I fix it?
[05:57] <AlexSeif> however My problem is setting the rukes
[05:57] <AlexSeif> oops (rules)
[05:57] <MacDrunk> hello all
[05:57] <soyporti> hello everyone in the ubuntu tribe. I was wondering if there is anyone among us (beside me of course) who have achieve to install Need For Speed Most Wanted?? using only open source?
[05:57] <MacDrunk> is there any way to view a linux machine on  windows network?
[05:57] <sotec_prod> alex, don't know of htat program
[05:57] <Ghost_Auk> yes, Mac
[05:57] <sotec_prod> sorry
[05:58] <sotec_prod> i don't even use a firewall
[05:58] <sotec_prod> linux doesn't really need a firewall
[05:58] <sotec_prod> it's pretty secure as is
[05:58] <MacDrunk> can you tell how ghost
[05:58] <kiosk> everything needs a firewall
[05:58] <kiosk> trust me
[05:58] <jose> frutax: My apologies... I cannot help you here.
[05:58] <brentc4m> sotec_prod, there's no reason to have ports open to the world if they don't have to be
[05:59] <Ghost_Auk> sotec, even an 'apt-get -f purge clvm  fails  ;-(
[05:59] <spikeb> bah, firewalls belong at the router level.
[05:59] <sotec_prod> true, but i'm a rebel :D
[05:59] <frutax> jose: it is ok, thanks for the help thus far :)
[05:59] <kiosk> it's secure because not as many people know how to hack it
[05:59] <brentc4m> hah :)
[05:59] <kiosk> but some still can
[05:59] <Moniker42> slackmagic: ping
[05:59] <IcemanV9> fwiw, ubuntu was installed with no ports open by default
[05:59] <MKS> Any opinions on which virtual server is best to use? Virtual Box, VM Server or another?
[06:00] <slackmagic> bullgard4:     try    lynx whatismyip.com           or       links whatismyip.com          (hoping you have either of them installed)
[06:00] <ubunt1> vmware
[06:00] <ubunt1> !vmware
[06:00] <kiosk> Probably some people in this room.  (not that they would or anything) LOL
[06:00] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:00] <AlexSeif> no sotec_prod
[06:00] <AlexSeif> especially if you develop web apps
[06:00] <ubunt1> sotec_prod: every virtual machine don't have 3d ?
[06:01] <kiosk> what starts the menu bar?
[06:01] <kiosk> I have no menu bar.
[06:01] <sotec_prod> probably not. i hear that vmware workstation is planning on adding 3d to their next update, but it costs buku dollars
[06:01] <AlexSeif> sotec_prod if you use the network tool to examine your computer you'll find a lot of open parts
[06:01] <bullgard4> slackmagic: Why should I call these Internet addresses? I have asked for an address in my LAN.
[06:01] <ubunt1> sotec_prod: man this will get much memory?
[06:01] <Pirate_Hunter>  What is Grub Error 17 and how can I fix it?
[06:01] <AlexSeif> the Iptable monitors a lot and prevents a lot but you'r still uncovered
[06:01] <jason__> anybody here?
[06:02] <slackmagic> bullgard4: in that case just    /sbin/ifconfig | grep 192
[06:03] <sotec_prod> pclinuxos has a great security manager, but i don't like rpm's, so i mess with it.
[06:03] <IcemanV9> !grub | Pirate_Hunter
[06:03] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:03] <mzuverink> thanks guys on the ntp issue, now how do I change its timezone utc?  Via ssh cli
[06:04] <IcemanV9> Pirate_Hunter: there is a good info on troubleshooting part from wiki
[06:04] <jason__> how do i install firefox on ubuntu? who can tell me!?
[06:04] <cables> WHY THE HELL did they change the ATA driver again?
[06:04] <cables> jason__: it's already installed.
[06:04] <MugginsM> ubuntu should come with firefox installed
 tanx will look into it
[06:04] <sotec_prod> Tom, me either
[06:04] <slackmagic> bullgard4:  or to be exact, you can do             /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | awk '/inet addr/ { split($2, x, /:/); print x[2] ; exit; }'
[06:04] <drwxr-xr-x> where is the pidgin deb for Feisty
[06:04] <IcemanV9> jason__: it is installed by default ... App > Internet > Firefox
[06:04] <drwxr-xr-x>  ?
[06:04] <omegacenti> Hmmm.. Xchat gnome is a little to basic for me.
[06:05] <omegacenti> too*
[06:05] <cables> drwxr-xr-x: go to http://getdeb.net
[06:05] <cables> omegacenti: don't use xchat gnome, use xchat.
[06:05] <bullgard4> slackmagic: I have issued a similar command this morning, and it returned my computer's IP address. But Last night it did not. I suspect that my DSL provider was down. I cannot see how the DSL influences my DHCP network.
[06:05] <omegacenti> cables about to :)
[06:05] <jason__> but it's to old.....
[06:05] <cables> jason__: then upgrade your Ubuntu version.
[06:05] <omegacenti> one sec
[06:05] <jason__> thx
[06:05] <drwxr-xr-x> is pdigin ever going to end up in the official ubuntu suppositories ?
[06:06] <cables> lol
[06:06] <cables> suppositories
[06:06] <cables> nice one
[06:06] <omegacenti> alright...
[06:06] <cables> drwxr-xr-x: only in Gutsy.
[06:06] <slackmagic> bullgard4: yep probably
[06:06] <mzuverink> no on pigeon till next release i read
[06:06] <cables> drwxr-xr-x: it's not going to ever be in Feisty
[06:06] <omegacenti> I don't know, konversation was good... don't know what is so great about xchat...
[06:06] <drwxr-xr-x> that sounds very silly
[06:06] <kiosk> any one know how to recover a missing menu bar?
[06:06] <cables> drwxr-xr-x: no, it sounds logical. There's a reason.
[06:06] <IcemanV9> pidgin might be in backport someday 0.o
[06:06] <cables> kiosk: right click on another panel and hit New Panel and recreate it
[06:07] <kiosk> I have no panels at all
[06:07] <kiosk> just desktop
[06:07] <cables> kiosk: hit alt-f2, and type "killall gnome-panel"
[06:08] <cables> So, Ubuntu seems pretty solid on their policy of not making drastic changes in updates. Then, WHY did they release two updates in a row that completely changed the ATA driver which resulted in changes to the filenames in /dev?
[06:08] <omegacenti> Anyone know of a good font to use in things like IRC and what not? this default one is hurting my eyes.
[06:08] <drwxr-xr-x> omegacenti: i just use the terminal client irssi, works great
[06:08] <logan> How do I zip a folder?
[06:09] <cables> logan: right click in, hit create archive
[06:09] <drwxr-xr-x> logan: from the command line you would              zip -r Folder.zip Folder
[06:09] <kiosk> I got "gnome-panel: no process killed"
[06:10] <kiosk> The panel isn't even running
[06:10] <ubunt1> hey do you know some web email server
[06:10] <ubunt1> that have gui login
[06:10] <PurpZeY> My NTFS Read has stopped working, I think this might have occurred when I upgraded to the newer kernel, is there a possible fix on this?
[06:10] <mzuverink> how to change timezone to utc includeing hw clock?
[06:10] <bullgard4> slackmagic: Just now ifconfig returnes 'inet Adresse: 192.168.178.24'. This is correct. By the command /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | awk '/inet addr/ { split($2, x, /:/); print x[2] ; exit; }' returns nothing. So I suspect that the command which you suggested is wrong. But I am not suficiently familiar with the awk command.
[06:10] <ubunt1> when you write something like test.com/mail to open gui login screen
[06:11] <Tom47> omegacenti: very much a personal pref ... if using ubuntu play around with the variatins possible through System>Preferences>Fonts
[06:11] <omegacenti> Tom47, thanks
[06:11] <matthew1429> hey guys, I am trying to get fileshare kinks worked out, would appreciate help.  Im using a vista client to ubuntu server.  I can browse the files on server by entering the ip, but not by using the server's name... anyone have an idea where to look next?
[06:11] <AlexSeif> who here uses mysql or apache or php
[06:12] <logan> Does ubuntu have a built in FTP client?
[06:12] <omegacenti> Thats better.
[06:13] <kiosk> will I lose my data if a do a rescue?
[06:13] <cables> kiosk: what sort of rescue?
[06:13] <shijirou> logan: Applications > add/remove >internet > gFTP
[06:13] <kiosk> from CD menu
[06:13] <AlexSeif> anybody who uses firehol
[06:13] <cables> kiosk: I've never seen that option on the menu...
[06:13] <kiosk> rescue broken system . . .
[06:13] <kiosk> fiesty
[06:13] <mvfeinstein> I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and it seem to start booting but after the bar loads all the way it goes to a black screen and gets stuck there. Can anyone help me figure out what it going wrong?
[06:14] <IcemanV9> logan: open the terminal and type ftp
[06:14] <kiosk> it comes up on my menu
[06:14] <kiosk> when I boot from the CD
[06:15] <kiosk> but it goes to old dos color screens that look a lot lik the original installation
[06:15] <kiosk> I actually have xubuntu
[06:15] <kiosk> Thats probably why
[06:16] <PurpZeY> I had was using NTFS Config. Tool to Read my NTFS secondary drive, and since I upgraded to the newer kernel I cannot seem to mount it, anyone have any suggestions? (besides just loading the old kernel at GRUB)?
[06:16] <cables> PurpZeY: That happened to me. Just use the config tool to re-add it.
[06:16] <cables> PurpZeY: actually, don't
[06:16] <PurpZeY> cables: When I try to remount it I get an error....
[06:16] <cables> PurpZeY: you need to delete the old entry if you want to use the same name
[06:17] <PurpZeY> cables: Ohh...Ok, you said, actually don't, is there some other way you recommend doing it?
[06:17] <soyporti> does anyone knows why when i play a video in totem while running beryl, it appears a blue color when i move the video's window
[06:17] <soyporti> how can i fix that?
[06:17] <cables> PurpZeY: or just use a different name when re-adding it
[06:17] <cables> !effects | soyporti
[06:17] <ubotu> soyporti: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[06:17] <shijirou> soyporti: what video are you trying to play?
[06:18] <soyporti> an flv
[06:18] <soyporti> shijirou: flv
[06:18] <cables> that shouldn't matter
[06:18] <PurpZeY> cables: I'm not seeing new name as a choice. Is there a different tool I should be using...I just see the two drives and a check box to add, (and then apply) am I missing something? I mean, I can't remove them from the list b/c they are auto-detecting.
[06:18] <cables> soyporti: ask in the channel Ubotu told you about.
[06:18] <cables> PurpZeY: don't remove them from THAT list.
[06:18] <shijirou> soyporti: have you installed the necessary codecs?
[06:18] <Ghost_Auk> a first for me:  just finished an upgrade, and it told me to do a restart .. oh well ..
[06:19] <cables> PurpZeY: close out of that, hit alt-f2, and type < gksudo gedit /etc/fstab >
[06:19] <slackmagic> bullgard4: works for me :D
[06:19] <soyporti> Cables:i will thanks, and shijirou i did.
[06:19] <mon^rch> what's the best vnc server to use.... the most user friendly?
[06:19] <cables> mon^rch: the built in one is the most user friendly
[06:19] <Dr_willis> mon^rch,  the most user friendly is not always the best for every job.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> depends on how you want to use vnc.
[06:20] <pike_> mon^rch, theyre all about this complicated 1) vncpasswd  2) run vncserver   thats it :)
[06:20] <PurpZeY> cables: Ok, got that file open, seems like something I don't want to mess up, how do I fix it?
[06:20] <cables> Dr_willis: i'm sure he knows that. He just asked for the most user friendly.
[06:20] <ubunt1> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=88174
[06:20] <cables> PurpZeY: hit save as and save it as fstab.bak just in case
[06:20] <Danux> all through my syslog i have "kernel: [ 1512.459594]  acx: BUG: tx_head:9 Ctl8:0xC0 - failed to find free txdesc" does anyone know what that may mean?
[06:20] <bullgard4> slackmagic: Lucky you.
[06:20] <cables> PurpZeY: after you do that, close it, open it again, and remove the lines corresponding to your old NTFS drives.
[06:21] <PurpZeY> cables: Already ahead of you...learned that lesson the hardway with xorg. Ok, hdb1 UUID ext3 is my ubuntu drive, correct?
[06:22] <cables> PurpZeY: yes, just delete the lines for the NtFS ones
[06:22] <PurpZeY> cables: Ok, I see them. Just wanted to make sure, since this seems like, a mistake might be a little mistake.
[06:23] <cables> PurpZeY: once you've gotten those deleted, close out of that, hit alt-f2, type < gksudo nautilus /media > and find the folders corresponding to your NTFS drivers, and delete those.
[06:23] <Peaker> ubuntu's python2.5 build-deps includes emacs21 ?!
[06:23] <pike_> Peaker, eww
[06:24] <cables> Peaker: That's really weird... but why are you compiling python?
[06:24] <MugginsM> why *wouldn't* you compile python?   :)
[06:24] <PurpZeY> cables: check.
[06:24] <Peaker> cables: because I found a bug that I'm trying to fix
[06:24] <Spencer> See you later!
[06:24] <cables> PurpZeY: done with deleting stuff?
[06:24] <mvfeinstein> I have a clean install of 7.04 and my computer hangs on a black screen on boot. Can anyone here help me fix this?
[06:24] <PurpZeY> cables: Yessir.
[06:24] <kiosk> I figured out my panel prob on #xubuntu
[06:24] <cables> PurpZeY: okay, go through the NTFS config thingy again now.
[06:25] <kiosk> i hade to alt-f2 xcfe2-panel
[06:25] <cables> kiosk: you could have mentioned you were using xubuntu...
[06:25] <kiosk> sorry
[06:25] <PurpZeY> cables: Poof. It works...How did you figure out that fix?
[06:25] <kiosk> I should have been logged into that channel.  Not sure what I was thinking
[06:25] <pike_> kiosk, iow you had to run it :)
[06:25] <cables> PurpZeY: my advanced linux 1337-ness (but not really)
[06:25] <kiosk> to much coffee today and not enough sleep last night
[06:25] <cables> PurpZeY: I just know how that stuff works, so I fixed it myself.
[06:26] <PurpZeY> cables: Thanks a lot...Also, what does gksudo do?
[06:26] <cables> Kiosk is using Xubuntu in the #ubuntu channel, chatting w/ Konversation lol
[06:26] <khin> hi, i have a problem, periodically i find that my sound does not work. i frequently hiberate my computer, so maybe this is a clue. if i restart, my sound works.
[06:26] <cables> PurpZeY: it's the GUI equivalent of sudo
[06:26] <PurpZeY> cables: Got.
[06:27] <PurpZeY> cables: it.
[06:27] <cables> PurpZeY: basically gives you root access, through the GUI. It's what starts when you go into anything in System>Administration
[06:28] <PurpZeY> cables: Why doesn't it request password?
[06:28] <valehru> I have a server setup...is there anyway I can check the A record of that server
[06:28] <valehru> ?
[06:28] <valehru> For example....mail.mydomain.com -
[06:28] <valehru> How could I check where it points to...
[06:29] <cables> PurpZeY: once you unlock it, it stays unlocked for 10 minutes or so
[06:29] <SuperQ> valehru: host?
[06:29] <khin> anyone know a reason why this might be happening (no sound)
[06:29] <omegacenti> Whats a good size for a swap partition?
[06:29] <SuperQ> omegacenti: how much ram?
[06:29] <khin> if i restart, my sound works
[06:29] <cables> omegacenti: depends on your RAM
[06:29] <pike_> khin, want the standard response?
[06:29] <omegacenti> SuperQ: 1Gig
[06:29] <khin> sure
[06:29] <pike_> !sound | khin
[06:29] <ubotu> khin: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:29] <omegacenti> cables: 1 gig
[06:29] <SuperQ> omegacenti: 256MB should be fine
[06:29] <cables> omegacenti: so do 512 MB
[06:29] <Dr_willis> omegacenti,   i always use at least 512mb swap. rarely need more then that.
[06:29] <sumoray> hello all  :)
[06:29] <SuperQ> hahah, 3 answers
[06:29] <valehru> SuperQ....its something like the MX record....basically I just want a redirect from there mail.mydomain.com to a new domain.
[06:29] <cables> omegacenti: hold on
[06:30] <cables> omegacenti: if you plan to hibernate, you need at least as much as your RAM, so 1 gig
[06:30] <omegacenti> cables: Is it bad that I made a 1 gig swap partition?
[06:30] <SuperQ> valehru: I'm not sure what you're asking
[06:30] <cables> omegacenti: good, actually.
[06:30] <SuperQ> omegacenti: it's not necessary
[06:30] <cables> omegacenti: because if you have less swap than ram, you can't hibernate
[06:30] <SuperQ> omegacenti: I have 2G of ram, and swap is disabled
[06:30] <AlexSeif> I'm still looking for someone with some experience on firehol
[06:30] <cables> SuperQ: it's necessary if you want to hibernate.
[06:30] <SuperQ> cables: yea, I don't do that :)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I always disable hibernate :)
[06:30] <omegacenti> I hibernate
[06:30] <cables> hibernate is awesome
[06:30] <pike_> i dont think ive ever used more that like 10mb of swap..
[06:31] <cables> except the nvidia drivers break it
[06:31] <cables> so I don't use it
[06:31] <SuperQ> ahh
[06:31] <cables> I have a laptop, so it sucks :(
[06:31] <SuperQ> I just use suspend mostly
[06:31] <cables> It breaks suspend as well
[06:31] <SuperQ> yea
[06:31] <borg7_> I have a Fiesty Fawn LTSP Setup with an XP machine connected to the LTSP side switch.  I can't ping outside of the network (google.com)
[06:31] <borg7_> I have a mix of thin clients and XP boxes that are getting DHCP from the LTSP server... is it possible for the XP machines to get to the internet?
[06:31] <sumoray> I need to find an Fdisk program that I can run on Ubuntu?
[06:31] <cables> sumoray: fdisk?
[06:31] <pike_> sumoray, fsck?
[06:31] <cables> sumoray: what are you trying to do?
[06:31] <SuperQ> cables: thinkpad X60 == intel express integrated
[06:31] <Dr_willis> fdisk is included.
[06:32] <cables> I don't think fdisk is what he's after
[06:32] <cables> sumoray: what do you need to do?
[06:32] <sumoray> Sorry, I'm a native Windows user, trying to break into Linux  :)
[06:32] <cables> sumoray: okay, could you tell us what you want to do with this program you're talking about?
[06:32] <omegacenti> sumoray: so you are trying to do something akin to editing partitions?
[06:32] <borg7_> any LTSP gurus?
[06:33] <cables> sumoray: use the Ubuntu LiveCD and open System>Administration>GNOME Partition Editor
[06:33] <sumoray> I have a second drive that worked a week ago and now Windows can't recognize it. I need to partition it in NTFS
[06:33] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to setup apache2 to have only one config file?
[06:33] <pike_> sumoray, linux fdisk is a partitioning tool not much else. and of course to display partitions with sudo fdisk -l
[06:33] <DigitalNinja> I would like to use Webmin
[06:33] <cables> sumoray: fdisk will destroy partitions you resize, GParted (available on the LiveCD) won't
[06:33] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone post the link on resolution in ubuntu please
[06:33] <SuperQ> sumoray: linux fdisk requires you tell it which device you want to partition
[06:33] <cables> !fixres | Pirate_Hunter
[06:33] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:33] <SuperQ> sumoray: fdisk /dev/sda
[06:33] <SuperQ> sumoray: fdisk /dev/hda
[06:33] <cables> no
[06:34] <cables> he's a linux newbie
[06:34] <cables> GParted is for him.
[06:34] <SuperQ> cables: I suppose :)
[06:34] <bigo> yup GParted
[06:34] <sumoray> Cool thanks !
 tanx
[06:34] <pike_> sumoray, for most stuff if this is just for file storage fat32 might be better
[06:34] <SuperQ> cables: isn't there a gnome disk admin util yet?
[06:34] <cables> sumoray: just boot the LiveCD and start GNOME Partition Editor from System>Administration
[06:34] <gr33npho3nix> gpart?
[06:34] <sumoray> Well I want to install win2k on the second drive
[06:34] <cables> SuperQ: gparted :)
[06:35] <logan> I am playing a full screen game and the task barts at the top and bottom of the screen show up infront of the game
[06:35] <pike_> sumoray, oh :)
[06:35] <cables> sumoray: then let Windows partition it.
[06:35] <logan> is there any way to hide them on this workspac?
[06:35] <GomerHauler_> I have a question on ATI drivers for Feisty, anyone care to have a whack at it?
[06:35] <cables> sumoray: just make sure not to break your Ubuntu partitions when you do that
[06:35] <cables> !anyone | GomerHauler_
[06:35] <ubotu> GomerHauler_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:35] <pike_> sumoray, windows once installed will bork the mbr youll have to reinstall grub probably
[06:35] <producemench> win goes before lin they say. cause win will overwrite lin boot info
[06:35] <bigo> SuperQ: GParted Live cd
[06:36] <cables> bigo: or Ubuntu LiveCD
[06:36] <logan> I am playing a full screen game, the task bars at the top and bottom of the screen show up infront of my game. Is there any way to hide them on this workspace?
[06:36] <cables> bigo: it comes w/ GParted
[06:36] <cables> !repeat | logan
[06:36] <sumoray> That's just it, windows won't partition the darn thing, keeps defaulting to "raw" I need a beeter partition program
[06:36] <ubotu> logan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:36] <borg7_> I have a Fiesty Fawn LTSP Setup with an XP machine connected to the LTSP side switch.  I can't ping outside of the network (google.com)
[06:36] <borg7_> I have a mix of thin clients and XP boxes that are getting DHCP from the LTSP server... is it possible for the XP machines to get to the internet?
[06:36] <mvfeinstein> I just installed ubuntu on my desktop and when I got to book after the splash screen finishes loading all I get is a black screen. I have started my system with the live cd and checked the xorg log but can't seem to find any errors. Can anyone suggest something that might help me fix this problem?
[06:36] <cables> sumoray: okay, then use GParted from the Ubuntu LiveCD
[06:36] <bigo> ok  both are  fine
[06:36] <sumoray> Right, thanks again
[06:36] <logan> !patience
[06:37] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:37] <producemench> use a linux cd to partition for linux then use windows to format the ntfs or fat 32 partition or disc
[06:37] <sumoray> That's now my plan !!  :)
[06:37] <producemench> don't install linux just use the partitioner
[06:37] <producemench> :))))))))
[06:38] <valehru> Is there a way I can check out the CNAME entry of a host?
[06:38] <artabrahao> what it the command to descopact with tar keepping the directory estructure?
[06:39] <cables> artabrahao: if no one here knows it off the top of their heads, this may help: man tar
[06:40] <GomerHauler_> ok, I have a laptop with an ATI 9100 IGP chip in it.  Works good with the OS driver...
  thanks
[06:40] <GomerHauler_> but it won't do dual monitors. The proprietary driver will do it (or at least it did in Edgy. Problem is the latest driver for my chip doesn't support the latest version of Xorg (that's in Feisty).
[06:40] <GomerHauler_> All that I've read about the problem seems to indicate that the only way to get the driver in is to DOWN grade the Xorg to <7.1. Have you heard anything different?
[06:41] <crdlb> GomerHauler_, it also won't work with feisty's kernel
[06:41] <mon^rch> Im having trouble serving this desktop... couls somebody help me ?
[06:41] <GomerHauler_> ok, that was another of my concerns about downgrading
[06:41] <mon^rch> could*
[06:42] <cables> mon^rch: could you ask your question?
[06:42] <Lilacor> !anyone
[06:42] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:42] <bsd_> lol
[06:42] <GomerHauler_> So, basically, my choice is live with the OS driver, or re-install to a previous version.
[06:42] <pike_> mon^rch, trouble with vncserver?
[06:43] <Lilacor> life is such a bitch when drivers aren't open source eh?
[06:43] <bsd_> the newest ati drivers dont support 9100igp?
[06:43] <GomerHauler_> yup, you betcha
[06:43] <mon^rch> I cant connect from another computer... it looks like it is  "trying" to connect but thw (windows) machine says it cant connect to this computer...
[06:43] <cables> mon^rch: I use VNC quite frequently, what's the problem you're having?
[06:43] <cables> mon^rch: are you sure your firewalls are open on both ends?
[06:43] <mon^rch> ^
[06:43] <GomerHauler_> nope, latest for this chip is 8.28.8 (I think)
[06:43] <cables> mon^rch: also, are they both on the same network?
[06:43] <mon^rch> cables... which port neds to be open on this enbd?
[06:44] <cables> mon^rch: 5900
[06:44] <DBO> Lilacor, couldnt agree more, but for the sake of the channel keep the swearing to a minimum please =)
[06:44] <cables> virtualbox has such lousy drive access speed
[06:44] <mon^rch> cables: ty... I will try bbiab
[06:44] <Lilacor> *sailor language* okay I'll keep the *sailor language* cursing down for you you big *sailor language*
[06:44] <Lilacor> :P
[06:44] <MacDrunk> hey
[06:44] <MacDrunk> ghost
[06:45] <bsd_> meh Lilacor I dont mind propriatory drivers, only thing is that due to linux kernel have faster development than windows, it does mean that the company has to keep updating drivers, even for older things just to keep them working - which is where opensource comes it, as then its left tot he community to update ;p
[06:45] <Kenth> has anyone encountered an issue with playing back encrypted dvd's when libdvdcss2 is in fact installed?  and totem-xine is being used?
[06:45] <drwxr-xr-x> valehru: can you do a zone transfer of the zone in question ?
[06:45] <valehru> drwxr-xr-x, yes.
[06:45] <Lilacor> bsd_: I actually don't mind either...just that making them play nice can be a *sailor language*
[06:46] <MacDrunk> can someone tell how to view linux file sistem on a windows network
[06:46] <Kenth> MacDrunk, samb
[06:46] <Kenth> a
[06:46] <bsd_> heh Lilacor, its getting better now :)
[06:46] <cables> samba can be a *sailor language*
[06:46] <bsd_> atleast for GFX
[06:46] <valehru> drwxr-xr-x, is there a way I can look up the MX info / CNAME / A records of a specific host from the CLI?
[06:46] <iMayKnow> MacDrunk, there are a couple of ways to do it... you could set up samba or an ftp server for starters
[06:46] <cables> Ubuntu's default Samba setup doesn't work with Windows clients in my experience
[06:46] <cables> only linux machines could connect
[06:47] <cables> I had to edit the hell out of smb.conf
[06:47] <darwin81> MacDrunk : Do you mean networking between Linux and Windows machines?
[06:47] <MacDrunk> well i was able to enter my home network
[06:47] <logan> I am playing a full screen game, the task bars at the top and bottom of the screen show up infront of my game. Is there any way to hide them on this workspace?
[06:47] <pike_> macd, samba is the best long term solution.  a quick one might be to install ftp or ssh server on the linux box
[06:47] <MacDrunk> yes darwin
[06:47] <iMayKnow> cables, really? i didn't have any problem with the default install
[06:47] <Lilacor> bsd_: yeah, it's not 'orrible, I still just 'ate it though.
[06:47] <cables> iMayKnow: I did :(
[06:48] <cables> Also, the printer sharing thing in Ubuntu is horrible. It doesn't even has Samba as an option!
[06:49] <MacDrunk> in fact, i can see my windows home network on my linux lap
[06:49] <Lilacor> cables: hmmm...I got it working pretty well...
[06:49] <pike_> i dont know why all the distros feel the need to implement their own printer config. a launcher for 127.0.0.1:631  is the most intuitive imo
[06:49] <Lilacor> cables: do you have samba installed?
[06:49] <MacDrunk> but i cant see my linux lap whit my windows pv
[06:49] <MacDrunk> pc
[06:49] <Lilacor> pike_: that's all very arbitrary
[06:50] <MacDrunk> i have ubunto 7.04, were do i go to install samba
[06:52] <mon^rch> cables: I opened port 5900 and I still am snot able to connect to this desktop from another computer. it is haning when trying to connect so it looks like its trying to work... don't know what I'm doing wrong :/
[06:52] <insomniac190> !samba
[06:52] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:52] <iMayKnow> MacDrunk, System->Administration->Synaptic and then search for samba... although I'd recommend poking around ubuntuforums.org since they have some good how-tos on the subject
[06:52] <vontux> hello, quick question, perhaps someone in here can help me out with, lets say that I am having trouble w/ a cd drive, could having my media folder with a creation date of "1904" be a problem?
[06:52] <kingbinary> i have a question about desktop effects.  I'm running ubuntu 7.04 and when I try to go into desktop effects i get an error "The Composite extension is not available"
[06:54] <CITguy> Can someone help me with access to a samba share from a windows pc?
[06:54] <CITguy> I can see the pc in windows but I can't access it
[06:54] <cweagans> CITguy....did you check the permissions?
[06:54] <CITguy> yeah, the files are set to 777
[06:54] <mon^rch> cables: ?
[06:54] <cweagans> hmm...dunno man, sorry.
[06:55] <agn0stic> CITguy: the directory as well as the files?
[06:55] <CITguy> in windows, it keeps asking for a username and password
[06:55] <CITguy> yup
[06:55] <iMayKnow> CITguy, are your username/password for each the same?
[06:56] <CITguy> well, I enter the username and password for my account on the samba pc, but it won't let me access. Should I have the username/password the same for both pcs
[06:56] <kingbinary> i was able to access mt samba shares using the NT style domain\username login
[06:57] <omegacenti> Good program for internet radio (preferably something very similar to winamp)
[06:57] <iMayKnow> it makes it much easier if they are the same, but if not you should be able to do what kingbinary describes
[06:57] <pike_> omegacenti, streamtuner which will launch stuff with xmms it looks alot like old winamp
[06:58] <bogor> I know my system has full virtualisation support from the o/p of  "grep svm /proc/cpuinfo" . Now i want to know if full-virt support
[06:58] <omegacenti> pike_: Do I need to add steamtuner to xmms?
[06:58] <pike_> omegacenti, also streamripper is awesome for ripping stations.
[06:58] <bogor> is available from BIOS
[06:58] <agn0stic> omegacenti: tunapie is worth checking out as well
[06:58] <pike_> omegacenti, just sudo apt-get install streamtuner and run it
[06:58] <bogor> in fedora i would do
[06:58] <omegacenti> pike_: I guess I also need xmms?
[06:58] <bogor> cat /sys/hypervisor/properties/capabilities
[06:59] <bogor> what is the equivalent in ubuntu 7.04
[06:59] <pike_> omegacenti, dont leave streamripper on for a week in the background...  ive got like 20 gigs of acid country
[07:00] <pike_> omegacenti, ubuntu dependency handling does all that for you if you install something everything it needs will be grabbed
[07:01] <cweagans> i need to edit a hex entry (eh..) and recompile kernel for this guide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596 . Can someone help me?
[07:01] <rainrunner87> Hey.  Anyone have any suggestions about something to fill the same function as Mappoint?
[07:01] <cweagans> what is mappoint?
[07:02] <rainrunner87> Program from Microsoft that has wonderful street maps all stored on your hard drive
[07:02] <cweagans> google earth, maybe?
[07:03] <MacDrunk> imayknow it says not isyalled
[07:03] <rainrunner87> I specifically love the fact that they're all stored on your hard drive, so you don't need to leech someone's wifi to use it
[07:03] <omegacenti> pike_: Cool thanks! works like a charm. ^_^
[07:03] <cweagans> ah...look around for geocaching programs or gps control programs....they usually have something like that built in
[07:03] <Poochie> i'm using a slightly dated system with ubuntu 7.04, it has integrated geforce 4 mx graphics... after enabling the unsupported nvidia driver in the "restricted devices" app, i dont seem to get any display in 3d games
[07:03] <Poochie> although 3d screensavers and such run well
[07:03] <bogor> rainrunner87: use the s/w with wine
[07:04] <cweagans> i need to edit a hex entry (eh..) and recompile kernel for this guide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596 . Can someone help me?
[07:04] <MacDrunk> any ideas on how to install samba
[07:04] <cweagans> MacDrunk: apt-get install samba
[07:04] <rainrunner87> bogor: Lists poor results on the Crossover compatability tests
[07:05] <bogor> rainrunner87: Try it yourself. Statistics can be deciving
[07:05] <smast> what plugins for "movie player" do i need to play dvd's?
[07:05] <rainrunner87> bogor: Good point, so worth a shot, but it could take a good bit of work.
[07:06] <bogor> smast: gstreamer-ugly (IIRC)
[07:06] <teethdood> what app can I use to extract .img files?
[07:06] <CITguy> I figured it out. I didn't set smb passwords using the smbpasswd command
[07:06] <bogor> smast: use synaptic to install
[07:06] <cweagans> how do you recompile the kernel as mentioned in this guide: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[07:07] <CITguy> thanks
 what is synaptic?
[07:08] <bogor> what is the equivalent in ubuntu 7.04 for the cat /sys/hypervisor/properties/capabilities in fedora ?
[07:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, dvd | smast
[07:08] <ubotu> smast: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:10] <pike_> bogor, what does that give you?
[07:10] <bogor> pike_: after sys the path doesnt exists
[07:11] <pike_> bogor, i mean what info do you get in redhat?
[07:11] <novato_br> !diskfree
[07:11] <ubotu> Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[07:11] <bogor> pike, in fedoraa o/p should be something like this "xen-3.0-x86_64 hvm-3.0-x86_32 hvm-3.0-x86_32p hvm-3.0-x86_64 "
[07:12] <novato_br> what is the command can I see disk space free ?
[07:12] <greyfrog> novato_br, df -h
[07:12] <bogor> pike, this lets us know if bios supports full-virtualisation
[07:12] <novato_br> thx
[07:13] <pike_> bogor, oh ..dunno im sure you dont want a /proc/cpuinfo answer
[07:13] <bogor> now, i know my cpu supports full-virtualisation. I want to know if my bios has the support
[07:13] <pike_> heh
[07:13] <bogor> no /proc/cpuinfo doesnt have that info
[07:16] <bogor> /l
[07:17] <oriez> who do i make universe, multiverse and restricted repositories enabled
[07:18] <pike_> !repos | oriez
[07:18] <ubotu> oriez: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:20] <Jared> !python
[07:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <Stoffer> what's the command to search for a package with apt-get in a terminal?
[07:21] <SuperQ> apt-cache search
[07:21] <wobx> this apt has super cow powers
[07:21] <Stoffer> ah
[07:21] <Stoffer> ok thanks
[07:21] <SeveredCross> Apt-cache FTW.
[07:22] <SuperQ> Stoffer: or aptitude search
[07:22] <wobx>          (__)
[07:22] <wobx>          (oo)
[07:22] <wobx>    /------\/
[07:22] <wobx>   / |    ||
[07:22] <wobx>  *  /\---/\
[07:22] <wobx>     ~~   ~~
[07:22] <wobx> ...."Have you mooed today?"...
[07:22] <wobx> :)
[07:22] <SuperQ> hah
[07:22] <SuperQ> yes, apt-get install cowsay
[07:23] <wobx> apt-get moo
[07:23] <wobx> :))
[07:23] <wobx> "This APT has Super Cow Powers."
[07:23] <wobx> worms ftw!
[07:26] <Harley> I am getting this error "configure: error: installation or configuration or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables". What is the name of the package called for gcc and build-environment and all?
[07:26] <pike_> Harley, build-essential
[07:26] <Harley> Bah thanks
[07:26] <Harley> Slipped my mind
[07:28] <cweagans> how do you install usbvision in ubuntu?
[07:28] <Stoffer> when running apt-get from a terminal, do I have to worry about the multiverse/universe thing that shows up in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[07:28] <eck> Stoffer: what do you mean?
[07:28] <Broccoly> how do i set UID and GID on a new mount usinf cifs/samba?
[07:29] <pike_> Stoffer, synaptic is just a front end to apt-get from what i understand both use the same cached info from the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <wobx> Broccoly: either in fstab or with --uid --gid iirc
[07:29] <Ambrish> GET FREE RESOURCES and tutorials at www.fxtrademaker.com
[07:29] <Ambrish> GET FREE RESOURCES and tutorials at www.fxtrademaker.com
[07:29] <bcartolo> Hi
[07:29] <bcartolo> just a little question
[07:29] <Stoffer> pike_ eck ok, I wasn't even sure about what multiverse/universe meant, so I guess I won't worry about it...
[07:30] <mtv> am i going about this process right.  I have updated to edgy eft from dapper, and vmware has broken.  Do i need to add the kernel headers to usr/src/linux?
[07:30] <bcartolo> How can I reset the mysql password?
[07:30] <Broccoly> wobx: that doesn't quite work
[07:30] <mtv> if so, i am getting "omitting directory" when trying to cp the files to the folder "linux"
[07:30] <pike_> Stoffer, if you gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   <-- basically open the file with a text editor the universe/multiverse things are just repos  (urls) that contain packages
[07:30] <eck> mtv: you probably need new kernel modules (or to continue using the old kernel)
[07:30] <wobx> does anyone know how to build a custom dpkg from source (.tar.{b,g}z) i.e. kernel sources
[07:30] <Stoffer> eck, pike_ like, if you open the s.package manager, you can choose to browse Editors (multiverse) or Editors (universe)...what's the difference?
[07:30] <omegacenti> pike_: I installed streamripper but I don't see it. Where is it?
[07:31] <GPabeL> join ubuntu
[07:31] <eck> Stoffer: the packages in multiverse are considered nonfree or are deemed to possibly be in violation of some IP, that is all
[07:31] <pike_> omegacenti, its a terminal app like streamripper 10.0.0.1:34
[07:31] <wobx> omegacenti: # whereis streamripper
[07:31] <pike_> omegacenti, it might be worked into streamtuner with the record button though im not sure
[07:31] <wobx> omegacenti: or # which streamripper
[07:31] <Stoffer> eck, oh ok.  How do I update the apt-cache?
[07:31] <omegacenti> wobx: thanks and you too pike :)
[07:31] <eck> Stoffer: the stuff in universe is maintained by volunteers, and is not officially supported by canonical
[07:32] <eck> Stoffer: if you apt-get update it will update the cache
[07:32] <wobx> Stoffer: it gets updated automatically on every apt-get update
[07:32] <vexati0n> why can i, on FC6, drag/drop files from the archive manager into nautilus to extract them, but it doesn't work that way in ubuntu?
[07:32] <Frogzoo> vexati0n: I wish you could, it's a real pain
[07:32] <Stoffer> eck wobx, I prefer using apt-get via the terminal simply because I learned linux with gentoo... awesome portage tree there
[07:33] <cweagans> i have a video interface that connects through USB. How can I get this to work with ubuntu?
[07:33] <vexati0n> Frogzoo, truth. but seriously. you CAN in fedora.
[07:33] <horst666> is this only a englisch spoken chat room?
[07:33] <vexati0n> so what gives?
[07:33] <wobx> Stoffer: but manually with apt-cache gencaches
[07:33] <pike_> horst666, yes looking for another lanuage?
[07:33] <Frogzoo> cweagans: find the driver / compile kernel module / install /cross fingers
[07:33] <wobx> vexati0n: it works for me with gnome
[07:33] <horst666> yes i search a ubuntu chat for germans
[07:33] <pike_> !de
[07:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:33] <Frogzoo> horst666: english only, which language you are looking for?
[07:33] <vexati0n> it works going into Thunar. file-roller supports it. but nautilus apparently blows :/
[07:34] <cweagans> Frogzoo: is there any way you could help me with this? I have this tutorial, but I am a Linux n00b
[07:34] <cweagans> ;
[07:34] <cweagans> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[07:34] <Frogzoo> !de | horst666
[07:34] <ubotu> horst666: please see above
[07:34] <wobx> vexati0n: but i still have edgy ;) dunno if it's different for feisty
[07:34] <horst666> thank you very much
[07:34] <vexati0n> nope feisty still can't.
[07:34] <Broccoly> wobx: -o uid=1000,gid=1000 works for smb, but not cifs
[07:34] <vexati0n> because GNOME developers are the "WE'LL decide what the users really want" guys.
[07:34] <wobx> Broccoly: sorry then i dunno
[07:35] <Stoffer> first of all, can apt-get be considered a "portage tree"?
[07:35] <Stoffer> is that a general term?
[07:35] <smast> i need help getting libdvdcss
[07:35] <vexati0n> medibuntu.com
[07:35] <vexati0n> or .org or soemthing. (smast)
[07:35] <wobx> only thing anoying is mplayer won't eat files via drag'n'drop
[07:36] <Quintin> Upgrading to feisty made the fonts used for desktop icons tiny.  how do I change that back?
[07:36] <wobx> but totem r0xx as well
[07:36] <smast> well ive got a website in front of me but it just has a big list of files that i dont understand
[07:36] <smast> http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss/
[07:36] <vexati0n> Quintin : system/preferences/font
[07:36] <alexrait1> hello, my screen shows "FREQUENCY OUT OF RANGE" when I boot ubuntu
[07:36] <GPabeL> who know how to print the screen in morphix
[07:36] <alexrait1> until I get to the GDM
[07:36] <smast> i have no idea what to do with them
[07:36] <Quintin> alexrait1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:37] <megatog615> Can someone help me with the nvclock stack smashing issue?
[07:37] <Quintin> alexrait1: Can you still use the system?
[07:37] <alexrait1> Quintin: but how can it be xserver if the problem occurs before
[07:37] <cweagans> can someone help me with this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596?
[07:37] <Quintin> vexati0n: I just want to fix the fonts on the desktop icons.  I don't want to change other stuff
[07:37] <alexrait1> Quintin: I am using ubuntu right now...
[07:37] <Quintin> alexrait1: You hadn't finished your statement.
[07:37] <vexati0n> Quintin, yeah, there's an option for that called Desktop font
[07:38] <alexrait1> Quintin: When I log into GDM it works ok. I can see everything. The problem is for instance when I try to enter another console... like ctrl+alt+F1
[07:38] <alexrait1> Quintin: then, I can't see anything
ok, im there now what
[07:39] <alexrait1> Quintin: is xserver starts working right after the kernel is loaded?
[07:39] <Quintin> vexati0n: ah, bless you.  I think it's back to what I want.  Now the important question, is wtf it was changed during upgrade :-\
[07:39] <Quintin> alexrait1: no, long after
[07:40] <Bogaurd> I've got a webcam that I'm trying to get to work under linux. I've plugged it in, dmesg shows something being detected, but not being recognised. what can I do to try & get it to work?
[07:40] <alexrait1> Quintin: so the problem is probably somewhere else...  I tried to pass the vga=791 parameter to the kernel in menu.lst but it didn't help either
[07:40] <Quintin> Bogaurd: First you should find out if it is supported
[07:40] <cweagans> can someone please help me with this? --->   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[07:41] <Bogaurd> Quintin: is there a way to 'probe' the webcam and get some info out of it? it's super generic, and lsusb does not say much...
[07:41] <cweagans> i have this video interface that I don't know how to make work
[07:42] <wobx> smast: there also used to be a script in some /usr/share/doc file
[07:42] <kuusi> hi did u ever try "Dazzle DVD Recorder howto" or something like that in google?
[07:43] <wobx> smast: sorry confused that with mp3 support elsewhere :((
[07:44] <omegacenti> Bogaurd: what is dmesg?
[07:44] <cweagans> kuusi: yes. That is where I got this link: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[07:44] <cweagans> it tells how to do it, but it makes no sense to me
[07:44] <omegacenti> !dmesg
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Frogzoo> Bogaurd: best bet would be google the make/model +  linux
[07:44] <wobx> Bogaurd: if you don't get the info out of # lspci -vv then try a # v4l-info
[07:45] <cweagans> kuusi: i am new to linux and don't understand kernel recompilation or anything like that
[07:45] <Bogaurd> Frogzoo: I have just been googling random bits of text written on it, an I managed to find a site :D I'm trying to install the kernel module now...
[07:45] <Stoffer> is there a way to run apt-cache search that tells you if any of the results are already installed?
[07:45] <wobx> Bogaurd: more info than out of v4l-info you won't get
[07:45] <omegacenti> Bogaurd: What is dmesg?
[07:45] <Bogaurd> omegacenti: how do you mean? what output does it give?
[07:45] <kuusi> Oo allright i think im going to read thru your forum complettly and then we'll see
[07:46] <omegacenti> Bogaurd: no, what is its general purpose?
[07:46] <slackmagic> Bogaurd: make sure your lspci database is up-to-date       http://pciids.sourceforge.net/pci.ids <--- getting that file might help you identify what type of webcam you have and allow you to google for more and better results on getting it work
[07:46] <Bogaurd> oh ok, thanks slackmagic
[07:46] <Bogaurd> omegacenti: dmesg... i'm not sure of it's definition
[07:46] <Bogaurd> omegacenti: but it shows recent log events
[07:46] <Bogaurd> usually hardware related stuff
[07:46] <omegacenti> Bogaurd: cool!
[07:47] <Bogaurd> perhaps this will give info?
[07:47] <Bogaurd> !dmesg
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <Bogaurd> nope..
[07:47] <Bogaurd> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl8_dmesg.htm
[07:47] <Bogaurd> 'examines the kernel ring buffer'
[07:47] <TxsTchN2> ok, so I am planning on switching to a bigger HD, can I just copy the HD to another one, or do I have to do something else?
[07:48] <wobx> Stoffer: you can do that with a one liner in bash
[07:49] <Stoffer> wobx, what's the line?
[07:49] <TxsTchN2> also I was wondering how if possible, to run .exe files on my server? I want to run a program but it can't because it's an executable file..
[07:49] <wobx> Stoffer: dpkg -s `apt-cache search moo | awk '{ print $1; }'`
[07:49] <slackmagic> Bogaurd: what's the output of          /sbin/lspci        ? --- might have to pastebin that
[07:49] <wobx> replace moo with whatever you're searching
[07:49] <Stoffer> wobx, I coulda guess that ;)
[07:49] <wobx> Stoffer: hehe
[07:50] <Bogaurd> slackmagic: one sec... google managed to find me a driver, im just trying it now, hopefully it'll work :)
[07:50] <slackmagic> np
[07:50] <omegacenti> wobx in that line what is the purpose of the apostraphe?
[07:50] <Stoffer> wobx, now I need to see if I'm stubborn enough to use that instead of the synaptic package manager
[07:50] <wobx> omegacenti: which ones? there are twho kind of apostrophes
[07:50] <omegacenti> wobx:  Imean this: `
[07:50] <wobx> -h
[07:51] <Bogaurd> slackmagic: awesome, the driver works.
[07:51] <kuusi> cweagans: u have a problem with the dazzle dvd recorder - right? r u sure that it is for linux?
[07:52] <wobx> omegacenti: ` tells to execute the string rather than interpreting as a text
[07:52] <cweagans> kuusi: dazzle dvd recorder is hardware. it says on the package that it is only for win xp, but that forum says that it is possible to get it to work in linux. The second post details what I need to do, it is just a matter of doing it. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do it.
[07:52] <omegacenti> !awk
[07:52] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:52] <wobx> omegacenti: means the command in between `foo` gets executed rather than handled as plain argument for the preceding command
[07:53] <wobx> Bogaurd: which camera do you own?
[07:53] <mvsn> is it possible to convert Kubuntu Feisty to Ubuntu?
[07:53] <punsad> mvsn: wouldn't that just mean switching from KDE to Gnome?
[07:54] <Flannel> mvsn: They are the same linux distro, yes.  You just install gnome (ubuntu-desktop) and then (optionally) remove KDE
[07:54] <Bogaurd> wobx: it's a camera that came with an asus motherboard. it has asus written on it on one place, but i doubt it's really an asus camera :)
[07:54] <megatog615> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Nvidia_Fanspeed_Auto-Adjustment
[07:54] <jacquiii> Does anyone have any tips for me? I just installed Ubuntu on my Dell XPS m140, and I don't think the fans are working. Please help...
[07:54] <mvsn> thank you... wasnt 100% sure.
[07:54] <megatog615> Anyone ever seen an ubuntu equiv of that?
[07:54] <omegacenti> jacquiii: is it overheating?
[07:54] <kuusi> well im allso a linux newbie (so dont expect to much ;))....maybe you schould a) run it with wine?or install windows and run it win (ugly solutions)
[07:55] <jacquiii> omegacenti: I can't tell. It's always been hot, but I don't hear any fans anymore.
[07:55] <cweagans> kuusi: will win xp drivers work under wine?
[07:55] <cweagans> kuusi: will win xp drivers work under wine?
[07:56] <barbarianhero> hello, all...fresh install of dapper drake (6.06) and I want to use my widescreen at 1680x1050 resolution...will apt-get install 915resolution do the trick or is there some config stuff i need to do?
[07:56] <Flannel> !fixres | barbarianhero
[07:56] <ubotu> barbarianhero: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:56] <omegacenti> jacquiii: Then keep asking, I am sorry I can't help you.
[07:57] <Flannel> barbarianhero: you may need to manually (that howto) add the resolution
[07:57] <kuusi> cweagans i dont ..maybe u google after it or try it out
[07:57] <jacquiii> omegacenti: thanks anyway
[07:57] <barbarianhero> ok cool, thanks flannel
[07:57] <insomniac190> something got messed up in my grub boot loader...can anyone help?
[07:57] <megatog615> So nobody wants to help?
[07:57] <punsad> insomniac190: what happened?
[07:57] <wobx> Bogaurd: oh i c because i also got a problem with mine
[07:58] <wobx> Flannel: are the triggers public?
[07:58] <Flannel> megatog615: nvclock is in universe
[07:58] <Bogaurd> oh ok. what kind of camera wobx ?
[07:58] <insomniac190> punsad: it is taking a lot longer for the loader itself to display, and when it does, there are 2 instances of 2 selectoions
[07:58] <megatog615> Flannel: I know, I have it
[07:58] <Flannel> wobx: ubotu?  yeah.
[07:59] <insomniac190> punsad: like it says ubunut kernel whatever 2 times and ubuntu kernal w/e (recovery) twice
[07:59] <punsad> insomniac190: have you tried editting your menu.lst file?
[07:59] <wobx> Bogaurd: logitech quickcam express which worked under fedora some time ago with ubuntu i only get a blueish picture altough it works somehow when i access it with mencoder/mplayer
[07:59] <Flannel> insomniac190: that's (possibly) normal, depending on what you mean exactly.  Each kernelversion will get its own entry there
[07:59] <wobx> Flannel: thx
[08:00] <insomniac190> punsad: i havent done anything with the menu.lst file
[08:00] <punsad> insomniac190: this is where those entries are configured
[08:00] <mvsn> if I wanted to run multiple operating systems, like linux, mac, solaris, is vmware the best solution for ubuntu?
[08:00] <punsad> insomniac190: as far as it being slow... I have no idea what is causing that
[08:00] <Bogaurd> wobx: hmm, weird. where do you see the blue picture?
[08:00] <insomniac190> Flannel: it is all the same kernel.  like nothing different happens if i select one from thge other
[08:01] <brett> so i need a little help with beryl > emerald... i just installed the emerald themes, and in my emerald manager, i have a huge list of themes i (think i ) could use... nothing happens when i double click on any of these files listed
[08:01] <wobx> !quickcam | colo
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quickcam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <insomniac190> punsad: what is the location of thge menu.lst file?
[08:01] <wobx> !logitech
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <punsad> insomniac190: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <Flannel> insomniac190: The kernel versions will look and (for 99.99% of the things) behave identically.  pastebin your menu.lst (/boot/grub/menu.lst) and we'll take a look
[08:01] <omegacenti> !webcam
[08:01] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:01] <Ra|Ka> mvsn, ubuntu didnt run vmware all that well when i tried, virtualbox was a better solution. although for some reason my usb device/audio device wouldnt work
[08:02] <wobx> omegacenti: thx
[08:02] <wobx> :>
[08:02] <insomniac190> thanks punsad
[08:02] <omegacenti> wobx:  lol I can't believe it worked :)
[08:02] <wobx> hehe
[08:02] <wobx> lucky hand
[08:02] <wobx> :)
[08:02] <riotkittie> argh.
[08:02] <Stoffer> does anyone know a package to install that would fix this:  (generated by running autogen) module_LTLIBRARIES: variable `libtray_module' is used but `libtray_module' is undefined
[08:02] <punsad> Ra|Ka: did you try qemu or Xen?  I'm wondering which emulator to use to have a virtual windows box
[08:02] <insomniac190> !pastebin
[08:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:03] <insomniac190> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24808/
[08:03] <mvsn> Ra|Ka: i'll look into virtualbox..
[08:04] <Ra|Ka> punsad, didnt try those programs though linux will run them natively
[08:04] <Flannel> insomniac190: right.  Those are different kernel versions.  one is 2.6.20-15 and the other is 2.6.20-16.  That's perfectly normal.
[08:04] <cweagans> anyone played with the em88xx drivers?
[08:04] <younghacker> so uhhh any news on the nes emulator
[08:04] <younghacker> ??
[08:04] <Ra|Ka> you know all that they want you to do!
[08:05] <insomniac190> Flannel: any idea on how they got there...there only used to be one kernel.
[08:05] <omegacenti> Way to get url's to be highlighted in blue in Xchat?
[08:05] <younghacker> right click?
[08:05] <brett> so how do i use emerald-themes? i have a bunch of themes listed in my emerald-manager, but how do i apply them?
[08:05] <pike_> omegacenti, might /join #xchat i dont see an option offhand
[08:05] <younghacker> yea good question
[08:05] <Quintin> Who is responsible for making fonts smaller in feisty?
[08:05] <Flannel> insomniac190: you updated your packages, and that adds the newer kernel (bugfixes, etc)
[08:05] <trumpeter2003> Anyone know the parameter to set the current sound via asoundconf to another sound card than the current one?
[08:05] <Quintin> I hope they die painfully
[08:05] <omegacenti> pike_: thanks though
[08:06] <insomniac190> brett: it should update automatically
[08:06] <Quintin> trumpeter2003: asoundconf set-default-card
[08:06] <brett> when i click, double click, right click.. nothing happens
[08:06] <trumpeter2003> Quintin: That requires a reboot, I'm talking of current session
[08:06] <younghacker> whats my kernel version?
[08:06] <younghacker> lol
[08:06] <brett> you tell us
[08:06] <trumpeter2003> Quintin: And that isn't helping, as it is still defaulting to the wrong card
[08:06] <Quintin> younghacker: uname -r
[08:06] <younghacker> THANKS.... this room is so cool
[08:06] <insomniac190> Flannel: ahh...so since the new kernel, is there any point to have a selection for the older kernel?
[08:06] <wobx> does anyone know who's behind automatix?
[08:07] <Quintin> trumpeter2003: Dunno.  more than one device is usually a pain.  suggest using windows xp where sound device selection is very simple
[08:07] <Flannel> !automatix | wobx
[08:07] <ubotu> wobx: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:07] <Madpilot> wobx, #automatix would
[08:07] <wobx> Flannel: thx once again
[08:07] <Quintin> Why are my fonts smaller!?
[08:07] <brett> urgh. i need to restart. i'll see if maybe that helps with the emerald-themes not updating.
[08:07] <Jack_> Hey everyone, i've been having a major problem with my toshiba laptop in ubuntu, the problem is this: If the computer has been on for more than an hour it will most likely hang and show major graphic artifacts and require a hard reboot, if i run any ram/cpu intensive program (games, firefox, compile something, etc) it hangs in the same way as before. I thought it was bad ram and replaced both ram modules but this still happens,
[08:07] <Jack_> i thought it was overheating, but the temperature (70C) was well below the safe maximum, I have no idea what could be causing it now and any help would be greatly appreciated.
[08:07] <logan> How do you prevent your windows from greying out under processing load, my game is in grey scale =(.
[08:07] <brett> make them bigger quintin
[08:07] <brett> or change your resolution
[08:07] <wobx> !WorksForMe
[08:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:07] <trumpeter2003> Quintin: Dude, don't give help to people if you are going to suggest an OS not even closely related to this one
[08:08] <Flannel> insomniac190: Well, It's best to keep two kernel versions around (just incase a new one breaks something).  But you can remove older kernels through your favorite package manager (linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, in that case), and that'll remove the entry from grub
[08:08] <wobx> well that should be obvious
[08:08] <wobx> :))
[08:08] <slayer> lawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:08] <slayer> lawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:08] <slayer> lawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[08:08] <slayer> lawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1] 
[08:08] <slayer> lawl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1] 
[08:08] <Quall> I need some help dual booting Vista and Ubuntu to two seperate hard drives. Vista is currently installed on one. Both drives are SATA
[08:08] <wobx> but often ignored
[08:08] <wobx> :(
[08:08] <Ra|Ka> slayer you poor boy!
[08:08] <Ra|Ka> long time no hear.
[08:08] <brett> brb
[08:08] <cweagans> can someone help me with some driver issues please?
[08:08] <CorpseFeeder> why can't I add an ntp server to theh ntp server list for time/date synching?
[08:08] <Rydelle> i'm kinda new to linux, and i have an ubuntu livecd i installed, i got all the updats but it's still 6.06 and gnome is still from 2006. how do i update it to latest without needing to download an ISO?
[08:08] <Ra|Ka> lol
[08:08] <insomniac190> Flannel: okay...i wont mess with the kernels, thanks for your help
[08:09] <Quintin> Rydelle: gksu update-manager -c
[08:09] <Rydelle> ok, thanks
[08:09] <Ra|Ka> the tree of sickness dies!
[08:09] <Ra|Ka> it's the only way
[08:09] <Flannel> !upgrade | Rydelle
[08:09] <ubotu> Rydelle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:09] <Ra|Ka> unless science loses once again
[08:09] <Ra|Ka> :(
[08:09] <Quintin> Quall: stfw?  "grub vista".  first result...
[08:09] <omegacenti> I've never seen ops in here.. they just stay hidden :)
[08:09] <barbarianhero> how can i figure out what graphics driver it installed by default?
[08:10] <Rydelle> !upgrade
[08:10] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:10] <Rydelle> oh ok
[08:10] <TxsTchN2> so.. i keep getting this: Cannot open /media/disk/Server.exe: No application suitable for automatic installation is available for handling this kind of file. but i installed wine..
[08:10] <barbarianhero> er. what graphics driver I am currently using I should say
[08:10] <pike_> barbarianhero, grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf  itll be the last one probably
[08:10] <barbarianhero> pike_: thanks
[08:10] <logan> How do you prevent your windows from greying out under processing load, my game is in grey scale =(.
[08:10] <Quintin> barbarianhero: look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:10] <roadkill>  any one know about hamach
[08:10] <Flannel> TxsTchN2: you needto run the exe via wine.  "wine path/to/exe" sort of thing.
[08:10] <cweagans> roadkill: not worth the trouble
[08:11] <Ra|Ka> imagine having ur / partition back to the front?
[08:11] <Quintin> Flannel: the shell should open .exe in wine
[08:11] <Ra|Ka> and inside out!
[08:11] <TxsTchN2> do i run it in the terminal?
[08:11] <barbarianhero> aye, as I thought. i810
[08:11] <Ra|Ka> then mirror it and cry slayer!
[08:11] <CaptainMorgan> argghh
[08:11] <Quintin> barbarianhero: naturally
[08:11] <Ra|Ka> it'll make you feel even better!
[08:11] <Kuku> #argentina
[08:11] <cweagans> roadkill: what are you trying to do....just install it?
[08:11] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: if you are having problems with i810 I dealt with the issue extensively yesterday.
[08:12] <Quintin> omegacenti: I'm having problems with it.  fix mine! :P
[08:12] <roadkill> cweagans: yea, but im getting a tan/tun driver error or somthin
[08:12] <cweagans> anyone? please? driver issues.
[08:12] <Quintin> cweagans: Just ask your question!!
[08:12] <sebastian> hola
[08:12] <omegacenti> Quintin: lol I think your was having to deal with text in terminals though didnt you?
[08:12] <CorpseFeeder> how come the "add severs" does not work in the date/tme properties?
[08:12] <barbarianhero> omegacentri: I'll let you know...trying to get 1680x1050 res, installing 915 resolution now
[08:12] <Catoptromancy> Is there a command to update to Fiesty from Dapper?
[08:12] <benpete22> hi ppl
[08:12] <Quintin> omegacenti: uhm.  no? :p
[08:13] <cweagans> Quintin: i did....several times over the span of an hour
[08:13] <sebastian> hi people
[08:13] <Quintin> CaptainMorgan: update-manager -c
[08:13] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: do you have an lcd or a crt?
[08:13] <Quintin> cweagans: ask again.  Don't ask to ask
[08:13] <pike_> barbarianhero, one of those fancy lcd monitors
[08:13] <Flannel> Catoptromancy: you need to upgrade via Edgy (dapper > edgy > feisty)
[08:13] <barbarianhero> omegacentri: lcd
[08:13] <Catoptromancy> Flannel : I know
[08:13] <Ra|Ka> you know all that they want you to do!
[08:14] <Catoptromancy> Flannel : I ran update manager but it still says 6.06
[08:14] <barbarianhero> pike_: lcd, i dunno about fancy ;)
[08:14] <cweagans> I bought a Dazzle DVD Recorder today. I can't get it to work, although a google search pointed me here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596  . The instructions in the second post are too complicated for me, so I need some help.
[08:14] <Quintin> Catoptromancy: update-manager -c
[08:14] <younghacker> jack the ripper
[08:14] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: lol and you are using the meanest and cruelest driver in existance imo to drive it :)
[08:14] <Rydelle> ok
[08:14] <Rydelle> you know what
[08:14] <Rydelle> lol
[08:14] <Catoptromancy> heh Hi
[08:14] <Rydelle> i had to run that gksu command 5 times
[08:14] <Rydelle> and NOW it showed the button to upgrade
[08:14] <cweagans> roadkill: if you can avoid using hamachi, do. That program has crashed my system too many times to count
[08:15] <Rydelle> it's stuck on downloading the upgrade tool, it's downloading file 1 of 2 with unknown speed
[08:15] <barbarianhero> omegacentri: hah, yeah well i picked up this comp used on the cheap because my old desktop failed, but it only has a low-rise agp slot and my nvidia won't fit
[08:15] <Quintin> cweagans: I could probably fix that, but it's not trivial
[08:15] <cweagans> Quintin: ok...what do I need to do?
[08:15] <Flannel> !upgrade | Catoptromancy
[08:15] <ubotu> Catoptromancy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:15] <Catoptromancy> tnx
[08:15] <omegacenti> was I kicked? what did I hit?
[08:15] <Rydelle> infact... i think update-manager is frozen now
[08:16] <Quintin> cweagans: Just what the guide says.. you'll need to get kernel sources and rebuild the kernel after modifying those files
[08:16] <omegacenti> What was my exit message?
[08:16] <Rydelle> oh there it goes
[08:16] <riotkittie> omegacenti: no, you parted                    "I left"
[08:16] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I feel your pain. Sincerely
[08:16] <CorpseFeeder> Where is the list of ntp servers for synching the time/date stored? The date/time gui interface is obviously useless... so how can I modify the list of servers manually?
[08:16] <omegacenti> that riotkittie
[08:16] <omegacenti> thanks riotkittie
[08:16] <cweagans> Quintin: that's where the guide lost me. I am a linux noob. I can get kernel sources, but I beyond that, I don't know anything
[08:16] <megatog615> nvclock seems to give me "stack smashing" errors
[08:16] <sigal_> Hola, soy Kuku
[08:16] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: which ubuntu version?
[08:16] <Quintin> cweagans: edit the files it shows there in a text editor
[08:16] <roadkill> cweagans:  thanks
[08:17] <sigal_> Kuku
[08:17] <sigal_> Soy Kuku
[08:17] <riotkittie> !es > sigal_
[08:17] <sigal_> Hello riokittie
[08:17] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: regardless, it'll be something like /etc/ntp* whether that's ntpdate or ntp.conf (or something else in the newer configurations), it'll be something close to that
[08:18] <Jack_> Hey everyone, i've been having a major problem with my toshiba laptop in ubuntu, the problem is this: If the computer has been on for more than an hour it will most likely hang and show major graphic artifacts and require a hard reboot, if i run any ram/cpu intensive program (games, firefox, compile something, etc) it hangs in the same way as before. I thought it was bad ram and replaced both ram modules but this still happens,
[08:18] <Jack_> i thought it was overheating, but the temperature (70C) was well below the safe maximum, I have no idea what could be causing it now and any help would be greatly appreciated.
[08:18] <Rydelle> it's stuck on 'modifying the software channels' and it's on file 7 of 8 for awhile now
[08:18] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: one thing to check out extensively is to actually go to the synaptics package manager and see if when you search for "i810" that the one installed is the ubuntu supported one.
[08:18] <CorpseFeeder> flannel: it's edgy
[08:18] <TxsTchN2> ok well now I get this error lol: wine: cannot find 'home/spike/Desktop/Server.exe' but it's there...
[08:18] <Flannel> CorpseFeeder: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[08:18] <ddazedd> Jack_ 70c is not safe
[08:18] <ddazedd> thats hot
[08:18] <ubuntuVNC> is the program fail2ban the one that stops brute force attacks
[08:18] <sigal_> Hola, soy Kuku
[08:19] <omegacenti> Jack_: 70c is common shutoff values for many pc parts nowadays.. that is HOT
[08:19] <ddazedd> Jack_ a standard amd will shut off way below 70c
[08:19] <Lazureus> this is rydelle, using laptop since i have to close the window on rydelle for update.
[08:19] <Jack_> interesting, when i rang toshiba they said it was safe until 95
[08:19] <ddazedd> Jack_ im at 32c liquid cooled
[08:19] <omegacenti> Jack_: HECK no.
[08:19] <pike_> Jack_, yikes
[08:19] <Lazureus> is it normal for it to say that 97 packages are going to be -removed-?
[08:20] <Jack_> Its a laptop though.. laptops generally run hotter right?
[08:20] <Lazureus> 188 new packages to be installed, and 779 packages are going to be upgrade?
[08:20] <omegacenti> Jack_: 5 degrees below where water tunrs to vapor at sea level?
[08:20] <ddazedd> Jack_ yeah but they still need efficient cooling anything above 50c in my oppinion is hot
[08:20] <rOb3rt> is it possible to reverse any domain in my pc
[08:20] <omegacenti> Jack_: thats somewhere in the vicinity of 200 degrees f
[08:20] <Jack_> Alright then, Why is it this hot, the fan is running full speed non-stop and its not overclocked.
[08:20] <younghacker> who knows about firestarter.... I have ubuntu running in my VM could i turn it on with no problems, i am really using this as lab,,, my major is network security,, im just trying to learn
[08:20] <Jack_> and theres plenty of room on all sides of it
[08:20] <omegacenti> Jack_: could be dust in the heatsink, something blocking it (dust bunny, insect)
[08:21] <deep`> Is there a way to make a certain file run when adding, and deleting users?
[08:21] <ddazedd> Jack_ sounds to me you need to replace your cooling or use some duster
[08:21] <Jack_> Alright thanks, would you happen to have a link to somewhere with any additional advice?
[08:21] <riotkittie> what kind of laptop is it ?
[08:21] <omegacenti> Jack_: another possibility is that the heatsink sepereated from the cpu and is not getting contact
[08:22] <barbarianhero> !fixres
[08:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:22] <Jack_> alright, its well out of warranty so i'll take it apart and have a look, thanks for your help
[08:22] <omegacenti> Jack_: np. hope it works out for you
[08:23] <cweagans> Quintin: what version of the kernel should I get?  2.6.21 ?
[08:23] <Ra|Ka> omegacenti, yes i found my cpu was overheating because only one of the heatsink clamps wasnt actually clipped in properly. It makes all the difference
[08:23] <Jack_> Only need it to last until the dell's m1330 comes out :)
[08:23] <omegacenti> Ra|Ka: Exactly :)
[08:23] <riotkittie> i wish dell would fix their overheating issues
[08:23] <younghacker> dell sux
[08:23] <riotkittie> but i will probably go for another dell on my next laptop
[08:23] <Lazureus> i have a cat named riot =p
[08:23] <younghacker> its all about HP
[08:23] <omegacenti> riotkittie: I highly recommend... nm talking about laptops.. heh
[08:23] <riotkittie> i have a riot named cat
[08:24] <Jack_> You guys should see the xps m1330.. pure sex :P
[08:24] <Lazureus> i'm so glad it's downloading this update at 850k/s, god i cant imagine this on a slow connection
[08:25] <riotkittie> the xps line scares me :o
[08:25] <rthriller> what's a good c++ IDE for ubuntu?
[08:25] <omegacenti> Lazureus: is it apparent to you that things also download faster on linux?
[08:25] <Lazureus> yeah, way faster
[08:25] <Lazureus> at windows my highest was 700k and that was on a TORRENT.
[08:25] <mwc> Anybody know heard of a problem where the system will hang on shutdown?  I think it may be related to the fglrx drivers.
[08:25] <Lazureus> i seem to go past my upload cap too on linux
[08:25] <omegacenti> Lazureus: I love Linux ^_^
[08:26] <Lazureus> i get 60k/s upload instead of 50k/s in linux
[08:26] <Jack_>  /drool 13.3" screen, 250gb 7200rpm hd, nvidia 8400GS, 802.11n, built in HSDPA, slot loading dvd burner, 4gb ram... what more can you want
[08:26] <Ra|Ka> omegacenti, good point. cause when people where telling me it must be my heatsink not being installed properly I thought it was ignorance on their part because i had assembled the computer myself. But yeh turns out i didnt clip one of them in properly
[08:26] <riotkittie> a larger screen, for starters
[08:27] <Ra|Ka> cpu was running over 100C on 64bit Ubuntu
[08:27] <omegacenti> Ra|Ka: I found that added a half a drop more of arctic silver 5 on my friends cpu brought his temp down 7 degrees C :_
[08:27] <Jack_> i must say, I'm surprised my Tosh m30 lasted this long, nearly 4 years in a high school environment :)
[08:27] <Lazureus> phew. Sylar didn't eat my brain
[08:27] <omegacenti> Ra|Ka:  that is so dangerous! 100C?!
[08:28] <Quall> I need some help dual booting Vista and Ubuntu to two seperate hard drives. Vista is currently installed, Ubuntu is not. Both drives are SATA
[08:28] <Jack_> Sylar = win
[08:28] <Lazureus> Molly ^_^
[08:28] <omegacenti> Jack_: what is Sylar?
[08:28] <Jack_> Character in the TV show Heroes
[08:28] <Lazureus> best part ever... was Hiro's @!$#
[08:28] <riotkittie> my dell is like 7 years old
[08:29] <omegacenti> riotkittie: hehe keeping the little bugger runnin eh?
[08:29] <Jack_> :P peter in future episode = neo in matrix so bad.
[08:29] <barbarianhero> ok that didntwork lol
[08:29] <riotkittie> maybe six.
[08:29] <Lazureus> heh
[08:29] <Ra|Ka> yeah i thought it was ubuntu's fault but it wasnt. I was just in such a rush to put my new computer components together i didnt clip one of the clips in.
[08:29] <Lazureus> they are still putting out graphic novels, you can find out about haitian's past right now
[08:29] <Jack_> anyways, bit off topic lol :)
[08:29] <Lazureus> yeah =p
[08:29] <Ra|Ka> assembling new computers rules
[08:29] <Jack_> oo gotta get them later
[08:29] <Lazureus> i'm waiting for update to finish downloading
[08:29] <riotkittie> omegacenti: trying to. i bought it used on eBay. have kind of been waiting  for it to die on me ever since it arrived but it seems ok
[08:29] <Jack_> now to finish taking apart this m30 and fix the heatsink
[08:30] <Lazureus> did you hear about that spinoff they're going to air? with new characters every week, and viewers get to votre on which one becomes a main cast member in s2?
[08:30] <NeoGeo64> Hello all.  What's the best IM client for Ubuntu
[08:30] <omegacenti> NeoGeo64: Gaim seems to work fine for me.
[08:30] <Lazureus> my ubuntu came with gaim
[08:30] <Jack_> Heh nah didnt hear about it, I live in Australia and we're only up to ep16 (but i got the rest of the series of bittorrent anyway :P)
[08:30] <NeoGeo64> isn't gaim called Pidgin now
[08:30] <riotkittie> NeoGeo64: "best" is relative. what do you need? what features do you love? loathe?
[08:30] <Lazureus> is there a better one, that supports stuff like display pictures and emoticons and stuff?
[08:30] <Fructose> Do I need to install anything besides build-essential to prevent this gcc error: linux/init.h: No such file or directory
[08:31] <NeoGeo64> does gaim support pictures
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Lazureus, For what protocall?
[08:31] <Catoptromancy> : Lazureus my gaim supports all that
[08:31] <NeoGeo64> like direct connect
[08:31] <Lazureus> msn display pictures and aim buddy icons, and so on
[08:31] <Jordan_U> Lazureus, Amsn for msn
[08:31] <Lazureus> mm ok :)
[08:31] <Jack_> ok, i have officially no idea where the heatsink is in this laptop...
[08:31] <Catoptromancy> Lazureus : well for yahoo i get all that
[08:31] <Jared> Can you get synergy via apt-get?
[08:31] <Lazureus> ah
[08:31] <omegacenti> Jack_: I t could be buried VERY deep.
[08:32] <NeoGeo64> does gaim support direct connect and pictures with AIMN
[08:32] <Lazureus> heh and the fun thing is, after i get 6.10 installed, i get to then upgrade again to the 7.something one
[08:32] <NeoGeo64> AIM*
[08:32] <Jack_> I know, oh well i think i can find it without breaking anything lol
[08:32] <omegacenti> Jack_: follow the heatsink on the outside (the one at the fans) to the cpu. They should be connected by a heat pipe ( a copper tube)
[08:32] <Jared> synergy
[08:32] <Jared> argh...wrong keybaord
[08:32] <Lazureus> is the fact i dont get a beryl package because of gnome or just the low version i have right now?
[08:32] <Lazureus> i cant get openarena either
[08:32] <Jack_> yeah it goes from the fan, the under the GPU to somewhere i cant see yet
[08:32] <omegacenti> Lazureus: feisty fawn doesn't come with it.
[08:32] <Lazureus> oh
[08:33] <omegacenti> Lazureus: I think... I am new so I have to say I think...
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Lazureus, It is in the repos though
[08:33] <Lazureus> i like gnome cuz it has shiny and pretty interface (i like fancy graphics and stuff;)
[08:33] <Jack_> Haven't beryl+compiz merged now?
[08:33] <Catoptromancy> omegacenti : but "sudo aptitude install openarena" should work?
[08:33] <Jared> I love gnome...not a kde fan though.
[08:33] <Jared> I also like xfce
[08:33] <Lazureus> but i cant even right click and do 'terminal here' or detach xchat windows
[08:33] <omegacenti> Lazureus: don't be afraid of admitting you like eye candy :)
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Jack_, Yes, but they havn't released anything final yet
[08:33] <Lazureus> hehe
[08:33] <Lazureus> yeah, i dont like plain grey boxes or too simple of stuff =p
[08:33] <NeoGeo64> Is gaim called pidgin now
[08:34] <Jared> Lazureus, you said you had a low version, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:34] <cweagans> someone....help....please. I really need to get this working. I can't for the life of me follow this tutorial (I am a linux newbie): http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[08:34] <omegacenti> Catoptromancy:  wha?
[08:34] <Jack_> Hey, anyone know if i should be able to get a cutdown ubuntu running on a Cowon Q5 (normally runs winblows CE 5)
[08:34] <Lazureus> i like the titlebars and borders to have a shine on them and gradients or patterns or something really cool
[08:34] <Lazureus> :)
[08:34] <Lazureus> lol
[08:34] <cweagans> Jack_: try LinuxFromScratch
[08:34] <riotkittie> kde annoys me. i mainly use flux. gnome is ok but it can be a pain on my hardware
[08:34] <Jack_> alright thanks
[08:34] <Jack_> hehe i made my own beryl theme
[08:34] <Jack_> black version of slatehorn
[08:34] <Jack_> :)
[08:35] <Lazureus> right now i'm using 'smokey blue' which came with ubuntu 6.06
[08:35] <Lazureus> i'd like a blue version of human tho, it had a bit nicer looking titlebar buttons
[08:36] <BHSPitMonkey> ... it's called clearlooks.
[08:36] <omegacenti> What does Lost terminal mean and what application does it pertain to ?
[08:36] <Lazureus> mmm ok
[08:36] <Jack_> allright.. cant figure out how to get past this grey plastic mesh below my keyboard..
[08:36] <Quintin> cweagans: whatever you currently are running
[08:36] <Lazureus> mm clearlooks is too dullish kinda
[08:37] <Fructose> Is there any way to make administration apps, such as Synaptic, start without having to give the password each time?
[08:37] <omegacenti> Jack_: A big sledge hammer fixes all problems.. lol ... j/k However, you might look at some guides online to see if anyone else is having the same problems as you on that model of laptop?
[08:37] <Quintin> Fructose: man sudoers
[08:37] <Catoptromancy> Lazureus : i use pirahna
[08:37] <Catoptromancy> looks pretty cool
[08:37] <Lazureus> it finished downloading, now it's preparing stuff
[08:37] <Catoptromancy> and not bland
[08:37] <Fructose> Quintin: Isn't my user account a sudoer by default?
[08:37] <lavar1917> whats a good movie player
[08:37] <cweagans> 2.6.20-16, but I don't see that in the kernel archives
[08:37] <Jack_> yeah i had a look couldnt find anything useful
[08:37] <pramz> Fructose, you have to set NOPASSWD to the admin group entry
[08:37] <Quintin> Fructose: read the manpage
[08:37] <Quintin> lavar1917: vlc, mplayer
[08:38] <lavar1917> alright
[08:38] <omegacenti> pramz: I am not sure that is recommended though...
[08:38] <pramz> Fructose, I'd rather you read the manual on how to tweak the sudoers file, but basically %groupname ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:38] <pramz> and its not recommended for security purposes
[08:39] <omegacenti> pramz: what does % in that command do?
[08:39] <pramz> omegacenti, yea but i have it on some machines (the VMs that I run for testing since they never get exposed outside
[08:39] <Quintin> I would greatly prefer a box that pops up where you can click "yes" or "no" ...
[08:39] <Quintin> I should get on coding that
[08:39] <pramz> omegacenti, the % says it is a group
[08:39] <omegacenti> pramz: thanks :)
[08:39] <pramz> like foo would mean its a user foo
[08:39] <pramz> %foo makes it a group
[08:40] <vontux> hello, quick question, perhaps someone in here can help me out with, lets say that I am having trouble w/ a cd drive, could having my media folder with a creation date of "1904" be a problem?
[08:40] <Jack_> holy hell does this thing have enough freaking screws.. counted atleast 40 so far
[08:40] <vontux> my system clock had an error
[08:40] <lavar1917> vlc is great thanks
[08:41] <Lazureus> when i first installed ubuntu, i picked my correct time zone but the clock was several hours behind :o
[08:41] <omegacenti> vontux: thats one heck of an atique CD drive :)
[08:41] <Lazureus> but when i rebooted after getting the updates, it fixed itself
[08:41] <Catoptromancy> hehe
[08:41] <vontux> omegacenti: yeah, when I did the install, there was an error in the system clock, could that potentially cause os problems?
[08:41] <cweagans> Quintin: I am completely lost.
[08:42] <Fructose> OK, I have a degree in CS and even I don't think that sudoer EBNF is "fairly simple"
[08:42] <omegacenti> vontux: dunno, ask everyone though. I was just commenting on world's oldest CD drive (Not proven!)
[08:42] <vontux> hehe
[08:42] <barbarianhero> omegacentri: ok im starting to see why you had this trouble lol
[08:42] <barbarianhero> omegacentri: now after the splash screen, my monitor just stops getting a signal
[08:43] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: yeah.. you will rue the day you thought i810 was going to be okay...
[08:43] <vontux> does anyone know what kind of errors "impossible" dates on folders could have on the operating system?
[08:43] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: a possibility is to set outrangous ranges for Horzsyn and Vertrefresh like 30-150 and 40-85 respectively
[08:43] <barbarianhero> omegacetri: well using 915resoluction to overwrite to 1680x1050 just isn't working, i think i'll try dropping down to 1400x1050
[08:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try that first
[08:44] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: hrm...good idea, i'll try that first
[08:44] <barbarianhero> omegacentri: ubuntu correctly ided my monitor and the xorg.conf is setup correctly
[08:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: only reason I am recommending that is because you cannot hurt an lcd monitor with ranges out of their ranges.
[08:44] <Jordan_U> barbarianhero, Have you tried the "intel" driver instead of the i810?
[08:44] <barbarianhero> Joradn_U: no
[08:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: can you pastebin your xorg.0.log?
[08:45] <roadkill> whats that starcraft irc channel
[08:45] <Jack_> well i'm getting there with the dissasembly, HDD gone, dvd gone, modem gone, wireless gone, ram gone.. still no sign of the CPU
[08:45] <cweagans> someone....help....please. I really need to get this working. I can't for the life of me follow this tutorial (I am a linux newbie): http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[08:45] <dxdemetriou> is there something to check if kernel update is complete and then to download it? it's for days I have a package linux-backports-modules-generic to not have the same version of new kernel
[08:45] <omegacenti> Jack_: lmao I hope you know where everything goes again :)
[08:45] <Jack_> yeah
[08:46] <Jack_> the spots are all sized/shaped exactly so its impossible to put something in the wrong spot
[08:46] <omegacenti> Jack_: I usually take pictures of everything step by step :)
[08:46] <Jack_> :)
[08:46] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: hrm i could except pastebin is failing
[08:46] <comphappy> ty pastebin.ca
[08:47] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: lmao you are just loving the i810 experience aren't you :) I experienced the same problem. Spamming by any chance?
[08:47] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: lol yah...http://pastebin.ca/552300
[08:48] <Jordan_U> omegacenti, What's wrong with i810?
[08:48] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: oh wait only looks like i got the tail end...hrm
[08:49] <comphappy> is there a way i could get the source/patch for openoffice that is used in ubuntu, so that i could install it on fedora, i have speent 4 hours trying to get JMF to work, and it just does not
[08:49] <omegacenti> Jordan_U: in some instances there are users hwo have absolutely no luck with correctly identified monitor with a variation of a graphics card deemed compatible with the i810 driver.
[08:49] <Jack_> its so light now
[08:49] <cweagans> someone....help....please. I really need to get this working. I can't for the life of me follow this tutorial (I am a linux newbie): http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=497596
[08:49] <cweagans> I need help changing a driver file and recompiling according to that howto
[08:49] <omegacenti> cweagans: if I knew how I would help. Just to let you know.
[08:50] <cweagans> omegacenti: ok.
[08:50] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok here is the relevant i810 bits: http://pastebin.ca/552302
[08:51] <comphappy> is the openeoffice gstreamer patch somewhere, so i can install on fedora
[08:51] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: would you mind posting the whole xorg.0 ?
[08:51] <Moosejaw> how do i check if i have bluetooth on my computer?
[08:52] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: done...http://pastebin.ca/552307
[08:52] <Lazureus> bluetooth is wireless technology, i'm not exactly sure what you mean with your question.. ?
[08:52] <Fructose> Does Ubuntu provide a way to automatically link /usr/src/linux/ to the most current version installed in a /usr/src/linux-headers-*/include/linux/?
[08:53] <ahmed> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[08:54] <Danopolis> just installed ubuntu, used pppconfig to setup dialup connection, can ping successfully, but system freezes when trying to use web browser or apt. Please help?
[08:54] <enry> a good men can explain easily how to reinstall Grub? i have 2 OS ubuntu7.14 and Debian Etch
[08:54] <ddazedd> whats a good temp monitoring app?
[08:54] <Lazureus> oh yeah, how do i change priority of which OS is highlighted first in grub?
[08:54] <Moosejaw> Lazureus: I  just dont remember if i included in when I first bought this machine
[08:54] <ahmed> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[08:54] <Moosejaw> and now have a phone i can use with bluetooth.
[08:54] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: #
[08:54] <omegacenti> (WW) I810(0): config file hsync range 28-33kHz not within DDC hsync range 30-82kHz
[08:54] <omegacenti> #
[08:54] <omegacenti> (WW) I810(0): config file vrefresh range 43-72Hz not within DDC vrefresh range 56-76Hz
[08:54] <Lazureus> i'm not really sure how to find out about that tho
[08:54] <Madpilot> ddazedd, either gnome-sensors-applet or ksensors work
[08:55] <cweagans> can anyone help me with a kernel recompilation?
[08:55] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: oo good find :)
[08:55] <Madpilot> ddazedd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:55] <enry> no...when at the upgrade of Ubuntu's kernel Grub just go crazy
[08:55] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: hehe :) ^_^
[08:55] <ZubZ^> hey guys... can anyone help me a little bit?
[08:55] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I knew it was those damn auto configured crappy horzSyn vertrefresh ranges!
[08:56] <cweagans> ZubZ^: depends....with what?
[08:56] <jovans> yesterday (utc) was a kernel update on feisty right?
[08:56] <cweagans> jovans: AFAIK, yes
[08:56] <ddazedd> Madpilot: no gnome-sensors-applet package found
[08:56] <ahmed> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[08:56] <Moosejaw> hrm...i cant believe i dont know if i have bluetooth on this machine
[08:56] <ZubZ^> cweagans, i can write to my eksternal harddrive :/ and yes i have installed everything from automatix :/
[08:56] <omegacenti> Moosejaw: I can't tell either on mine either :)
[08:57] <enry> Lazureus, grub is installed from my debia Os and at the upgrade of ubuntu's kernel it just go crazy!!
[08:57] <ubuntuVNC> how do i disable ubuntu's firewall?
[08:57] <Moosejaw> anyone have a razr or krzr phone hooked up with ubuntu?  anyone use motorola tools?
[08:57] <cweagans> ZubZ^: so what is the problem?
[08:57] <Madpilot> ddazedd, obviously I can't remember the package name. Just a second.
[08:57] <ubuntuVNC> im having all kinds of issues with hamachi
[08:57] <ddazedd> Madpilot: oh ok im sorry didn't realize
[08:57] <jovans> now i have with this kernel version again a problem with hdparm. Hdparm don't works again with this update
[08:57] <ZubZ^> cweagans, i cant copy paste my stuff into it, i can copy FROM it, but not INTO it :S
[08:57] <omegacenti> !automatix | ZubZ^
[08:57] <ubotu> ZubZ^: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[08:57] <MacDrunk> hey
[08:57] <enry> hey???
[08:58] <MacDrunk> need some help whit networking
[08:58] <MacDrunk> i just made a shared folder
[08:58] <cweagans> ZubZ^: change the permissions on it...it will be located in /mnt/*name of drive*
[08:58] <MacDrunk> an i can see it on my windows network
[08:58] <Madpilot> ddazedd, sensors-applet is the name of the package
[08:59] <drewby> Hi everyone!
[08:59] <ddazedd> Madpilot: thank you
[08:59] <ZubZ^> cweagans, nothing there :/
[08:59] <ahmed> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[08:59] <Madpilot> ddazedd, search Synaptic for 'sensor', that'll turn up everything you need - lmsensors, hddtemp, ksensors, sensors-applet, etc
[08:59] <cweagans> there is nothing in /mnt ??
[08:59] <ZubZ^> nope... nothing at all :S
[08:59] <cweagans> try /media
[08:59] <MacDrunk> but when ever y try to access the network on my windows network it ask for a login pass what should i do?
[09:00] <megatog615> Anyone here have an Athlon 64?
[09:00] <enry> a good men can explain easily how to reinstall Grub? i have 2 OS ubuntu7.14 and Debian Etch
[09:00] <Jack_> yay LCD off
[09:00] <cweagans> megatog615: yes, i do
[09:00] <ZubZ^> under media there is... but i cant change anything cuz i am not logged in as root
[09:00] <Jack_> :P
[09:00] <MacDrunk> there is no ubunto 7.14
[09:00] <drewby> So, after I leave the computer alone for a while, it logs out, which I want it to, but on the lock screen if you select switch user, and then eventually log back in to the first user, you have to log in on the normal screen and the lock screen, it's a minor problem, but is there a way I could fix it?
[09:00] <roadkill> i have athlon x64
[09:00] <ZubZ^> and i dont know how to do it as well
[09:00] <Danopolis> ubuntu freezes when trying to download anything with dialup and need to reset, but can ping successfuly, any ideas?
[09:00] <megatog615> Does your cpu thermal sensor work?
[09:00] <cweagans> ZubZ^: use a terminal
[09:00] <cweagans> !chmod | ZubZ^
[09:00] <ubotu> ZubZ^: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:00] <roadkill> nvm
[09:00] <b0llan2> good mornin #ubuntu, I burn a DVD from places -> cd/dvd creator by dragging in files and selecting File -> write to disc -> write. Will this dvd be readable without fuss under windows xp?
[09:00] <enry> a good men can explain easily how to reinstall Grub? i have 2 OS ubuntu feisty and Debian Etch
[09:01] <MacDrunk> so any ideas how to run samba
[09:01] <MacDrunk> in graphical mode
[09:01] <MacDrunk> or there is no windows only console method
[09:01] <texjoachim> samba in graphical mode?
[09:01] <jiii> enry: use the "grub" program
[09:01] <texjoachim> samba is a server
[09:01] <drewby> wow, it seems there's a lot more problem in here than there are answers right now
[09:01] <texjoachim> configure it via smb.conf and that's it
[09:02] <enry> jiii, ok but how!!!
[09:02] <MacDrunk> ok on a console ?
[09:02] <omegacenti> !terminal
[09:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:02] <jiii> enry: depends on your partition layout
[09:02] <texjoachim> MacDrunk: yes, on a console
[09:02] <MacDrunk> ok
[09:02] <WillJitsu> I'm trying to install kubuntu using the DVD image and an external USB DVD-RW.  It boots to the menu just fine, but no matter what option I choose, it blanks the screen and gives me a blinking cursor in the top left hand corner.  Is there some sort of command line parameter I need to change to make it work with my external drive?
[09:02] <texjoachim> what do you want to use samba for?
[09:02] <thekidrio> anyone here have a dv2310us laptop?
[09:02] <cweagans> can anyone help me with a kernel recompilation plz?
[09:02] <ubuntuVNC> do any of you know how to disable the firewall?
[09:02] <thekidrio> I am having issues with my sound
[09:03] <Lilacor> !sound
[09:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:03] <texjoachim> ubuntuVNC: which firewall?
[09:03] <Lilacor> !alternate
[09:03] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:03] <enry> my Grub is installed from Debian...probably is this think tha cause problems at the ubuntu's kernel upgrade
[09:03] <MacDrunk> brbrb no is not working
[09:03] <omegacenti> !recompile
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recompile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <ubuntuVNC> in ubuntu, im being told that my issues with netbios and hamachi are because of firewall
[09:03] <Lilacor> !alternate | WillJitsu
[09:03] <ubotu> WillJitsu: please see above
[09:03] <Almindor> heya, where are the net/DHCP scripts in ubuntu?
[09:03] <omegacenti> !kernel
[09:03] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:03] <Almindor> I got an odd problem with DHCP failing from time to time, and would like to "watch" them on boot
[09:03] <omegacenti> !kernel | cweagans
[09:03] <ubotu> cweagans: please see above
[09:04] <enry> can i use the installing Cd to install Grub?
[09:04] <omegacenti> wow thats awesome.. never seen ubotu do that.
[09:04] <jiii> enry: you can use the setup command to point at which disk to write the record
[09:04] <cweagans> omegacenti: yes, I saw. Thank you.
[09:04] <Shankysv87> wow.. they have a whole channel on this thing
[09:04] <enry> i don't whant to reiinstall all the OS
[09:04] <jiii> enry: any system that has the grub program, yes.
[09:04] <omegacenti> cweagans: I really hope it goes through for you :)
[09:04] <cweagans> omegacenti: that makes two of us
[09:04] <jiii> enry: what system are you running now?
[09:04] <thekidrio> Lilacor, Thanks I have certainly looked at the ubuntu.com site :)
[09:04] <kishan> enry yes in recovery option u can install grub
[09:04] <enry> Ubuntu
[09:04] <thekidrio> I blanked on the alsa one though haha
[09:04] <Madpilot> Shankysv87, Ubuntu has lots of channels on Freenode, actually, this is just the biggest...
[09:04] <omegacenti> cweagans: I know how frustrating it can be not to get help on a topic
[09:04] <enry> Debian doesn't start
[09:04] <ZubZ^> cweagans, sooo... cant u tell the command i have to use? :S
[09:04] <jiii> enry: ubuntu has grub installed already.
[09:05] <omegacenti> cweagans: I hope one day I will be able to help with recompiling kernels.
[09:05] <jiii> enry: do "sudo grub"
[09:05] <WillJitsu> !alternate
[09:05] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[09:05] <enry> yes but it was my Debian partition in charge
[09:05] <Shankysv87> i'm dealing with a dual boot problem with multiple hhds, xp was the first os and i'm trying to install ubuntu on the second.. i can't get grub to work to access ubuntu, if someone can help, that owuld be awesome
[09:05] <jiii> enry: and please prefix messages in the chat window
[09:05] <zottty> Dear Friends! Please help me in the following issue: I want to delegate the MX record of a domain from server X to server Y. On server X, I configured bind for the delegation properly. On Y, I have no idea if I need to do anything with bind or if it is enough to set up only postfix and dovecot.
[09:05] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: sigh...still no signal lol
[09:05] <cweagans> ZubZ^: it will look like this (obviously with the correct drives filled in): sudo chmod 777 /media/sda1
[09:05] <ubuntuVNC> whats the command to issue to restart a server through sehll?
[09:06] <jiii> enry: you can run grub from any system, it does not matter if you want debian or ubuntu
[09:06] <enry> jiii,  done!
[09:06] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try 30-150 for H and 40-100 for V
[09:06] <enry> jiii, how to reinstall it?
[09:06] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: alright i went the exact ddc settings this time
[09:06] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: also look to see if you have the i810 that is supported in synaptics package. I know it seems like you have the driver, but I found this worked for me.
[09:07] <ubuntuVNC> whats the command to issue to restart a server through sehll?
[09:07] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok
[09:07] <jiii> enry: first of all, I assume you have two hard disks?
[09:07] <enry> yes
[09:07] <k1gwb> i have 2 ubuntu machines, one with a monitor, one without.  how do i display the x session of one in a window on the other?  like ssh but graphical...
[09:07] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: will emerge apt-get install i810 do the trick?
[09:07] <jorge-> buenos dias genteeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:07] <HBBM> Ban anybody help me with modem on ubuntu?
[09:07] <enry> jiii, one for file and one with the two OS
[09:07] <ubuntuVNC> !k1gwb | vnc
[09:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k1gwb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:07] <omegacenti> barb maybe not.. dunno. lemme fid the exact name for you
[09:07] <wobx> with modem
[09:08] <snazzed> d00ds
[09:08] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: oh my bad lol i was using gentoo before this just put that emerge in there by accident lol
[09:08] <ubuntuVNC> !vnc |k1gwb
[09:08] <ubotu> k1gwb: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[09:08] <wobx> HBBM: do you mean like telphone line?
[09:08] <k1gwb> thanks
[09:08] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: lol so used to apt-get My eyes passed over it without even seeing it :)\
[09:08] <jiii> enry: so the boot record is on the "OS disk", which is also the first one, right?
[09:08] <HBBM> wobx yes
[09:08] <Jared> what ist he command to move a file?
[09:08] <enry> jiii, Yes
[09:08] <ubuntuVNC> Jared: mv
[09:08] <ZubZ^> cweagans, it wont work :( it keeps saying no such directory
[09:08] <Jared> thanks
[09:09] <ubuntuVNC> you have to do it with sudo
[09:09] <ubuntuVNC> sudo mv
[09:09] <jiii> enry: in that case, all you need to do is to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:09] <wobx> HBBM: i only remember that vague..didn't use it for a long time, but if nothing changed in between you have to set up/install wvdial
[09:09] <cweagans> ZubZ^: dunno man.....you'll have to ask someone else....I'm a newb
[09:09] <Tom47> !es | jorge
[09:09] <ubotu> jorge: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:09] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: Could you pastebin your sudo 915resolution -l for me ?
[09:09] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-i810 says newest version installed
[09:09] <ZubZ^> damn :S
[09:09] <jiii> enry: or, you want grub to use the debian boot partition?
[09:09] <enry> jiii,  can i send it to you?
[09:09] <ubuntuVNC> Jared: install a gui and make sure you allow whatever port it's blocking
[09:09] <zcat[1] > !dvd
[09:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:09] <ubuntuVNC> try firestarter
[09:09] <Jared> Install a gui?
[09:09] <wobx> HBBM: and there's also a gui app for gnome called gnome-ppp to actually set up the connection and credentials
[09:09] <Moosejaw> when it comes to stuff like cell phones...i wish i knew more about them...cuz it doesnt seem easy to make them work with ubuntu
[09:10] <ubuntuVNC> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:10] <snazzed> question of the day...  I've set up CVS on my Ubuntu 7.04 server.  Default setup is as "server" but my developer tells me I need to set it up as a "pserver".  Done some web searching with no luck...  can anyone help?
[09:10] <Moosejaw> with moto4lin can u change ringtones etc?
[09:10] <ubuntuVNC> and to open sudo firestarter
[09:10] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah one sec, gotta reboot w/o 915
[09:10] <ubuntuVNC> click on the events tab
[09:10] <enry> jiii, i what to use both the partition
[09:10] <ubuntuVNC> after tryhing to get whatever server to open
[09:10] <jiii> enry: no, it is not necessary to send it to me.
[09:10] <ubuntuVNC> if it turns red
[09:10] <ubuntuVNC> allow that port under policies
[09:10] <zcat[1] > E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate   --- I've enabled multiverse and seveas .. where's my dvdcss?!!
[09:10] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I actually was checking to see if you changed the /etc/default :) so you can do without the reboot if thats what you are getting at "_
[09:10] <Seveas> zcat[1] , amd64?
[09:11] <jiii> enry: but what is your problem actually? that you can not boot debian because the ubuntu boot record does not show it?
[09:11] <enry> jiii,  probably you will understand better my configuration
[09:11] <ubuntuVNC> Jared: im going to bed
[09:11] <wobx> HBBM: check out gnome-ppp at first
[09:11] <zcat[1] > don't thin\k so.. hang on
[09:11] <Shankysv87> i'm dealing with a dual boot problem with multiple hhds, xp was the first os and i'm trying to install ubuntu on the second.. i can't get grub to work to access ubuntu, if someone can help, that would be awesome
[09:11] <ubuntuVNC> if you have any questions and if your last name is ;Upton, give me a holler
[09:11] <wobx> HBBM: that should also install all prerequisites
[09:11] <zcat[1] > 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Wed May 23 01:46:23 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:11] <omegacenti> Is it wrong that I love Ubutu and the community that surrounds it?
[09:11] <zcat[1] > not a64, right?
[09:11] <omegacenti> Ubuntu* :)
[09:11] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: well thats odd. i rebooted into recovery mode from grub so i dunno if it would change it
[09:11] <enry> jiii, it's simple i installed grub from my Debian partition and when i upgrade Ubuntu kernel it start to heve problems
[09:11] <ubuntuVNC> omegacenti: it's wrong, but you don't want to be right
[09:12] <ziroday> Shankysv87: you have to make your ubuntu hdd the default hdd and unplug your windoxe hdd whilst installing
[09:12] <HBBM> wobx, I already have.
[09:12] <ZubZ^> anyone that can tell me how to write to an eksternal harddrive??
[09:12] <omegacenti> ubuntuVNC: lol! :)
[09:12] <ziroday> Shankysv87: after you have to manually edit grub
[09:12] <jiii> enry: if you want to change which boot partition grub uses, run the grub program and do "root hd(x,y)" and "setup hd(x)"
[09:12] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: but i did cahnge /etc/default/915resolution to overwrite mode 41 w/ my res
[09:12] <snazzed> going twice:   I've set up CVS on my Ubuntu 7.04 server.  Default setup is as "server" but my developer tells me I need to set it up as a "pserver".  Done some web searching with no luck...  can anyone help?
[09:12] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: not showing up in recovery mode tho...
[09:12] <_Codeman_> hey, why do my hdd's keep switching back and forth between sd* and hd*?
[09:12] <Shankysv87> how do i manually edit grub, i can't get into the os in the first place
[09:12] <Tom47> zcat[1] : seveas has no idea you are speaking to him unless you adress him using his nick
[09:12] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: was mode 41 a very similar mode as to bpp?
[09:13] <HBBM> wobx, can you go to a chat room?
[09:13] <jiii> enry: if you simply want to access debian from the current installation, then just add an entry to the debian system in the ubuntu grub configuraton
[09:13] <ubuntuVNC> omegacenti: now send some of that love over here and help me figure out my woes with samba.  ill even let u have shell access \
[09:13] <ubuntuVNC> lol
[09:13] <Danopolis> dial up connection freezes the whole system. any ideas?
[09:13] <enry> jiii, it's a little difficult to me....
[09:13] <ubuntuVNC> !winmodem
[09:13] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[09:13] <omegacenti> ubuntuVNC: lmao... no idea... would if I could :) I will eventually get there.
[09:13] <thekidrio> wow, dial up, cool beans
[09:13] <Danopolis> no hardware modem
[09:13] <Lazureus> hmm is there a reason that openarena and beryl still wont install with sudo aptitude install?
[09:13] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: mode41 is 640x480, 16 bits/pixel...i didn't think it mattered., i.e. just overwrites some mode you will never use in the bios with your wanted res
[09:13] <zcat[1] > might just grab the package directly if I can find it..
[09:13] <naeo> Can someone help me out abit? Just installed ubuntu on my htpc. I needed to use the VGA cable to install, but i want to use the hdmi instead.. Unfortunatly i cant get it to work. I'm using the official nvidia driver.. Ideas how i can get the hdmi output to work?
[09:13] <omegacenti> Danopolis: I love hardware modems.. so tweakable.
[09:13] <thekidrio> closest I have gotten to dial up is over bluetooth
[09:14] <zcat[1] > !dvd
[09:14] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:14] <ubuntuVNC> Lazureus: i just used synaptic on my laptop and it worked like a charm
[09:14] <ziroday> Shankysv87: you install grub on the 1st hdd with ubuntu on, once ubuntu is installed replug yuor windoze hdd nd then edit grub
[09:14] <thekidrio> you can use hardware modems as FXO/FXS ports heh
[09:14] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: i know it sounds funky but try writing over one with similar bpp that youare going to use.
[09:14] <naeo> !hdmi
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdmi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: what we are currently doing is fuzzy voodoo troubleshooting.
[09:14] <snazzed> going three times:    I've set up CVS on my Ubuntu 7.04 server.  Default setup is as "server" but my developer tells me I need to set it up as a "pserver".  Done some web searching with no luck...  can anyone recommend a good info source?
[09:14] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: hehe k
[09:14] <enry> jiii, you don't understand..!!! i installed Grub from my Debian partition!!!! in fact /boot/grub/menu.lst from Ubuntu is the wrong one!
[09:15] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: does defaultdepth correspond to bpp?
[09:15] <omegacenti> !!
[09:15] <khermans> snazzed, use svn
[09:15] <_Codeman_> anyone?
[09:15] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: that is bits per pixel, or colors amount, usually found as variants of 8, 16, 24, 32(I don't think 32 works though)
[09:15] <enry> jiii,  there is a way to just reinstall this with the live cd????
[09:15] <snazzed> khermans:  svn?
[09:16] <khermans> snazzed, subversion
[09:16] <zcat[1] > hmm apparently I don't have seveas repos.... weird, I know I added them!
[09:16] <thekidrio> enry, reinstall grub?
[09:16] <jiii> enry: you do not need any live cd's.
[09:16] <khermans> snazzed, less hassle than cvs
[09:16] <Ademan> !mouse
[09:16] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:16] <omegacenti> !calm |enry
[09:16] <Seveas> zcat[1] , pastebin your sources.list and we'll know :)
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <snazzed> khermans:  I trust subversion will work with most CVS clients?
[09:16] <jiii> enry: use the program in the system you're running
[09:16] <thekidrio> haha omegacenti
[09:16] <khermans> snazzed, no  it uses svn, not cvs
[09:16] <zcat[1] > Seveas, I just looked and it's not in there
[09:16] <enry> /boot/grub/menu.lst is incomplete from this OS
[09:16] <Seveas> hh ok
[09:16] <jiii> enry: it does not matter.
[09:17] <zcat[1] > just beryl and cafeugo
[09:17] <snazzed> khermans:  so my developer would have to get a different client...
[09:17] <omegacenti> cweagans: hows that read going?
[09:17] <cweagans> omegacenti: I am using git to pull the latest ubuntu kernel right now
[09:17] <cweagans> and it's takin forever
[09:18] <HBBM> wobx, thanks. But I need more help. I'll search. Here.
[09:18] <cweagans> already read the articles though
[09:18] <hellsoul> Somebody knows where meeting driver of a modem wireless LG LW2200P and a tutorial one explaining its configuration?
[09:18] <omegacenti> This is great, just switched to full linux distro, listening to abient chill and ripping it at the same time, and helping some fellow ubuntians out :) Score one for the day! :)
[09:18] <wobx> HBBM: np
[09:18] <omegacenti> ambient&
[09:18] <enry> solutions?
[09:19] <khermans> snazzed, http://sanatio.blogspot.com/2005/12/cvs-server-on-ubuntu.html
[09:19] <snazzed> khermans:  I'll give Subversion a shot.  Is the package name is subversion or svn?
[09:19] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok now i at least get the failed to start x server screen lol
[09:19] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: lmao... okay
[09:19] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: instaed of my monitor blanking and getting no signal
[09:19] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: what did you change
[09:19] <khermans> snazzed, but you really should investigate svn
[09:19] <burepe> My system got messed after update. I mounted my hard drive with the live cd and I am trying to transfer all the files over to my mac. I got it networked but no matter what I do it says I dont have enough permissions. Any suggestions?
[09:19] <khermans> snazzed, or hg, git, and bzr
[09:19] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: hrefresh ad vrefresh to 30-150, 40-100 respectivaly
[09:19] <Shankysv87> ziroday, i'm installing this on a partition, not a full drive by itself
[09:19] <snazzed> khermans:  LOL!  second line in the link you sent me is my problem, I think
[09:19] <_Codeman_> hey, why do my hdd's keep switching back and forth between sd* and hd*?
[09:19] <Shankysv87> will that make a difference
[09:19] <HBBM> Is there any dial up modem expert here?
[09:19] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: could you post your new xorg.0 now?
[09:20] <cweagans> barbarianhero: you did make a backup of the original xorg.conf, right?
[09:20] <snazzed> khermans: apt-get install cvsd
[09:20] <enry> ok i will solve by myself
[09:20] <DBO> enry, whats the problem?
[09:20] <force> hi, i'm trying to use airodump-ng and it's failing on an ioctl(3,SIOCSIWMODE,0xbf88bf10) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument), it's an Atheros AR5212 802.11abg pcmcia card, i have all the appropriate modules loaded, anyone got any ideas?
[09:20] <khermans> snazzed, yeah you need a server
[09:20] <enry> noooo esplain another time!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:20] <hellsoul> please, help-me ;/
[09:20] <barbarianhero> lol first time i saw the: Ubuntu comes with ABOSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY message
[09:20] <omegacenti> cweagans: he can change the syncs back using ddcprobe, he already showed that he could so so.
[09:20] <Jared> Is anyone in here running synergy on an ubuntu and a windows? If so, I need some help, I can't get it to work for anything...
[09:20] <vontux> hellsoul: what was your problem?
[09:20] <DBO> enry, give me the short version, I'd like to help =)
[09:21] <DJ-_-> hi i need some help in checking a cds md5sum with a local image md5
[09:21] <enry> DBO, it's simple i installed grub from my Debian partition and when i upgrade Ubuntu kernel it start to have problems
[09:21] <wobx> enry: don't know wether it will work but the easiest solution would be # apt-get --reinstall install grub (should recreate the menu.lst)
[09:21] <darkfena313> hello
[09:21] <khermans> DJ-_-, a CDs md5sum?
[09:21] <snazzed> khermans:  yeah, I installed cvs but not cvsd
[09:21] <omegacenti> there should be a !exclamation | person ubotu command.
[09:21] <burepe> Shankysv87: Fiesty refers to drives as sda so it is probably a problem from the update. I think if you change all of them to sd in the fstab that will fix it. Dont quote me
[09:21] <DJ-_-> khermans: it has a md5sum.txt file
[09:21] <hellsoul> vontux I need to know where meeting driver of the modem wireless LG LW2200P and a tutorial one explaining its configuration, you knows where can find?
[09:21] <enry> wobx, it will work?
[09:22] <khermans> DJ-_-, you mean the ISO ?
[09:22] <magnetron> omegacenti: it IS
[09:22] <DJ-_-> khermans: ya i burned an ISO
[09:22] <cweagans> omegacenti: ok....I absolutely hate dealing with xorg.conf because I can never get it back to a working state, so I end up reloading my system with a fresh install of Ubuntu. I, being a creature of habit, freak out any time someone plays with that particular file
[09:22] <cweagans> :D
[09:22] <DBO> enry, backup your ubuntu menu.lst, and run "sudo update-grub"
[09:22] <magnetron> !md5 | DJ-_-
[09:22] <ubotu> DJ-_-: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:22] <khermans> DJ-_-, well the md5sum is for the ISO, not the burnt disc
[09:22] <Hans-Martin> Got a problem with the update manager - the "Check" and "Install Updates" buttons both only perform the "Check" function - is that a known bug?
[09:22] <wobx> enry: do a # mkdir /boot/bak && cp -rp /boot /boot/bak first
[09:22] <Shankysv87> i'm not using Fiesty
[09:22] <omegacenti> cweagans: hehehehehehe I understand fully and respect your fear of Xorg
[09:22] <wobx> enry: and then try it
[09:22] <HBBM> Help me with a modem!
[09:22] <cweagans> :D
[09:22] <vontux> hellsoul: I'm sorry, not off the top of my head no :( , try crawling around in the forums though, perhaps it will be helpful
[09:23] <DJ-_-> khermans: well is there an utility to verify the image and the cd i just burned to see whether the wrote was done properly?
[09:23] <cweagans> omegacenti: have you ever used git before?
[09:23] <omegacenti> cweagans: I have no idea what git is
[09:23] <enry> wobx i have to say that i installed grub from muy Debian Os
[09:23] <omegacenti> !git
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about git - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <wobx> HBBM: what's the problem now?
[09:23] <enry> not from Ubuntu
[09:23] <Fructose> I'm trying to use some kernel headers with existing code, but /usr/include/linux/init.h doesn't exist. The directory does and I have linux-headers installed, so what gives?
[09:23] <vontux> hellsoul: if you are talking about a 56k modem, you'll have to look into "linuxant" as most 56k modems don't work w/o pay drivers on most linux distros
[09:23] <ZubZ^> anyone that can tell me how to write to an eksternal harddrive??
[09:23] <khermans> DJ-_-, you can -> dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum
[09:23] <cweagans> omegacenti: oh. ok. nvm then.
[09:23] <wobx> enry: and you ended up with an incomplete menu.lst?
[09:23] <omegacenti> ZubZ^: I think the term you are searching for is "external" is this correct?
[09:24] <DJ-_-> ok bbl thanks
[09:24] <hellsoul> vontux Ok, debtor exactly thus.
[09:24] <khermans> DJ-_-, if it is an Ubuntu live cd, there is a verifier in the boot routine
[09:24] <wobx> enry: but it shouldn't matter..debian grub should also work
[09:24] <ZubZ^> omegacenti, yeah sry :S
[09:24] <omegacenti> ZubZ^: no problem, we all get confused sometimes :)
[09:24] <enry> i hope
[09:24] <ZubZ^> omegacenti, :) but can u help me?
[09:25] <wobx> can anyone tell my why ubuntu is using lvm when there are no lvm devices?
[09:25] <hellsoul> Somebody knows where meeting driver of a modem wireless LG LW2200P and a tutorial one explaining its configuration?
[09:25] <omegacenti> ZubZ^: I am extremely new to Ubuntu and am just now beginning to get a slight grasp on it. I don't think I would be of much use.
[09:25] <wobx> s/my/me/
[09:25] <ZubZ^> omegacenti,  aargh dammit... :S
[09:25] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: did you get that pastebin of the new one up?
[09:26] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: not yet, just reading it from commandline, ill boot into cd and paste it
[09:26] <omegacenti> ZubZ^: if you had a problem with i810 I would nail it in a heartbeat.
[09:26] <HBBM> wobx, I have a pctel modem, but the scanModem software detect the CM8783 device.
[09:26] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: np thought maybe you missed it :)
[09:26] <wobx> HBBM: dunno that hardware sorry
[09:26] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: odd thing is its dayin display :info attached: FALSE present :FALSE for all tries
[09:26] <wobx> bbl
[09:26] <ZubZ^> omegacenti, i dont even know wat that is :S
[09:26] <omegacenti> ZubZ^: Be glad you don't... be very glad. Just ask barbarianhero
[09:27] <ZubZ^> hehe
[09:27] <Jordan_U> omegacenti, What is so bad about i810?
[09:27] <HBBM> wobx, ok, thankyou very much.
[09:27] <magnetron> HBBM: CM8783 would be the chip of the modem. scanmodem will not show the trademark
[09:27] <omegacenti> Jordan_U: I replied to you way on up in the text.
[09:27] <dgupta> hi every1 ... how can I detect bluetooth devices in ubuntu
[09:27] <enry> ok i try to restart!
[09:27] <Shankysv87> what is the "alternate desktop CD"
[09:27] <logan> How do you completley close beryl?
[09:27] <Jordan_U> omegacenti, Sorry, I was away and can't scroll back that far :)
[09:27] <khermans> dgupta, gnome-bluetooth?
[09:27] <scales> heloo can somebody help me i need a tutorial how to install nvidia drivers without synaptic
[09:28] <omegacenti> Jordan_U: it doesn't work for some users with certain configurations of hardware. For instance, try getting barbarianhero screen to output in his desired resolution :)
[09:28] <khermans> scales, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[09:28] <magnetron> dgupta: you have to install a package called bluez-gnome
[09:28] <megatog615> Has anyone gotten their K8 sensor to work?
[09:28] <HBBM> magnetron, Can I start a chat?
[09:28] <dgupta> magnetron:ok and then what
[09:28] <megatog615> According to ACPI, my CPU is always 40C
[09:28] <megatog615> Which is obviously wrong
[09:29] <magnetron> dgupta: i don't know
[09:29] <cox377> can anyone recommend a program like putty that will give me a graphical interface to the files i'm ssh'n into
[09:29] <magnetron> HBBM: chat here
[09:29] <khermans> cox377, gftp
[09:29] <magnetron> cox377: that is built into gnome. "connect to server"
[09:29] <Jordan_U> omegacenti, Have you tried xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[09:29] <HBBM> magnetron, ok.
[09:29] <ZubZ^> plllzzz.. anyone that can tell me how to write to an external harddrive??
[09:29] <khermans> ZubZ^, NTFS ?
[09:29] <omegacenti> Jordan_U: Yes, it didnt quite get the job done.
[09:29] <khermans> ZubZ^, ntfs-3g
[09:30] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | ZubZ^
[09:30] <ubotu> ZubZ^: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:30] <Tom47> cox377 its not truly graphical but mc is good to use
[09:30] <scales> khermans: kan i speek with you in private?
[09:30] <omegacenti> Jordan_U: I got my target resolution just fine, however... I could not get 3 other resolutions I was looking for.
[09:30] <khermans> scales, we prefer everyone speak in the channel on topics
[09:30] <ZubZ^> khermans, yeah its ntfs, but external...
[09:30] <khermans> ZubZ^, doesnt matter, mount it with ntfs-3g
[09:31] <ZubZ^> khermans, allrite, it will try that then
[09:31] <ZubZ^> thanks
[09:31] <HBBM> magnetron, I need some help. I have the Gnome ppp, the modem file, but I have problems to install a modem.
[09:31] <khermans> np
[09:31] <scales> ok ...i don't have a xdsl connection at home but i have downloadet the drivers from nvidia.com
[09:31] <Corvinis-L> what would you guys recommend as remote admin tool windows -> linux  (If it all possible a portable client would be nice)
[09:31] <omegacenti> wow.
[09:31] <vontux> ZubZ^: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/devicename /media/devicename
[09:31] <khermans> Corvinis-L, vnc
[09:31] <vontux> !fstab
[09:31] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:32] <khermans> Corvinis-L, tightvnc is a good implementation
[09:32] <scales> khermans: and it says that must be run as root
[09:32] <magnetron> HBBM: ask your question here. if i know the answer, i will answer. maybe some1 else will know
[09:32] <tawanda> hie all 1000 0f you
[09:32] <omegacenti> Corvinis-L: I agree with khermans  on tightvnc.
[09:32] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: computer is being very uncooperative.
[09:32] <scales> khermans: it is a .run package
[09:32] <Corvinis-L> how' s it's resource usage khermans?
[09:32] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: how so?
[09:32] <khermans> scales, yes its a driver installation, use sudo
[09:32] <Jordan_U> ZubZ^, Look at the link from Ubotu, it will tell you how to enable read / write on all NTFS partitions, internal and external, automatically
[09:32] <enry> ok i was right
[09:32] <barbarianhero> barbarianhero: for some reason now the live cd won't even boot.
[09:33] <barbarianhero> oh wait im talking to myself
[09:33] <khermans> Corvinis-L, i find it to be very useful and quite efficient
[09:33] <Tom47> corvinis-L freenx is very useful if speed od display is important
[09:33] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: for some reason now the live cd won't ven boot
[09:33] <vontux> !rc.d
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <ZubZ^> Jordan_U, yeah, allready on it.. thanks ;)
[09:33] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I've done the same thing lol
[09:33] <vontux> !rcS.d
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcs.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <enry> the reinstallation of gRub DIDN'T thake effect
[09:33] <vontux> !rc
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <enry> take
[09:33] <vontux> !rcS
[09:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rcs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <tawanda> hie i'm a newbie could someone please help me with my resolution
[09:33] <Jordan_U> !botabuse
[09:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:33] <vontux> would rcS be the file to place a command I want to be started at boot?
[09:33] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: hmm.. shouldn't be having to do with editing xorg.conf... thats weird.
[09:34] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: might be unrelated ( I hope it is!)
[09:34] <Corvinis-L> mmm well i need it to be available for both linux so I guess tightvnc would be the best choice
[09:34] <khermans> vontux, rc.local
[09:34] <Tom47> !frenx
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frenx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <_Codeman_> Do you ppl hate me :P
[09:34] <Jordan_U> tawanda, What kind of card? ( nvidia, intel, ati )
[09:34] <Jordan_U> ?
[09:34] <Tom47> !freenx
[09:34] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:34] <tawanda> intel
[09:34] <rooly> grr
[09:34] <magnetron> !botabuse > Tom47
[09:34] <rooly> anybody know how to get windows to show up in grub?
[09:34] <vontux> khermans: what does rcS do anyway?
[09:34] <Jordan_U> tawanda, Have you tried installing 915resolution?
[09:34] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah i really dunno why that would be unless the 915resolution screwed something up in the bios
[09:35] <MacDrunk_> any idea on how to run samba
[09:35] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: maybe i should do a bios reset
[09:35] <tawanda> jjordan i dont know how to
[09:35] <khermans> rooly, add an entry?
[09:35] <Tom47> magnetron pls explain how my usage was abuse please
[09:35] <rooly> don't know what i'm doing, and the documentation i've found doesn't explain anything
[09:35] <tawanda> yesterday some guys pretended to try and help me and they hacked me
[09:35] <tawanda> had to reinstall linux
[09:35] <khermans> macd, sudo aptitude install samba
[09:35] <magnetron> "Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots" said ubotu, Tom47
[09:35] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: 915resolution is not a permanent change. it is only a dynamic reallocation. NOTHING permanent about it.
[09:36] <Jordan_U> tawanda, Go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable universe
[09:36] <Tom47> magnetron nonsense
[09:36] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok thats odd then...i can't boot from the live cd anymore now either
[09:36] <tawanda> ok jordan let me try
[09:36] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i.e. even the 'safe graphical mode' fails
[09:36] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: that is WEIRD
[09:36] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah im starting to get freaked out lol
[09:36] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: tell  me the monitor still works :)
[09:36] <magnetron> Tom47: i will not discuss this
[09:36] <MacDrunk_> hey i can see my linux laptop on my windows network window but i can access
[09:37] <rooly> don'tcha hate it when you get a corrupted burn, and try to install, but end up completely screwing your system?
[09:37] <MacDrunk_> how do i set  up permision on my linux lap
[09:37] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah it seems to work fine, im able to get into the shell fine
[09:37] <khermans> macd, check out /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:37] <Jordan_U> tawanda, Then either search for 915resolution in System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, or just run: sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[09:37] <MacDrunk_> ok
[09:37] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: just can't start xorg at all from live cd or from hd
[09:37] <MacDrunk_> well i did that on a console terminal whit commands and wont work
[09:37] <HBBM> magnetron, I use 7.04, but the pctel don't work. There is a opition to see the modem, it's a proprietary modem, there says pctel in use, but don't work.
[09:37] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: sure its even trying the live cd?
[09:38] <khermans> MacDrunk, or System -> Administration -> Shared Folders
[09:38] <vontux> is there a laptop battery module that ubuntu needs to efficiently use the battery on centrino boards?
[09:38] <Corvinis-L> khermans > Tightvnc displays this info for the linux version of tightvnc: Fedora core 6 .rpm ..... does it matter ?
[09:38] <rooly> so
[09:38] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah im getting the 'run install from livecd' 'run in graphic safe mode' etc... menu on the splash screen
[09:38] <omegacenti> Does freeNX have a server for windows computers?
[09:38] <rooly> no help from #grub
[09:38] <magnetron> MacDrunk_: there is an option in the menu called "Shared folders" or similar
[09:38] <khermans> vontux, dunno but you can reconfigure the gnome battery applet to be on demand
[09:38] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: did you try run install from live cd?
[09:38] <MacDrunk_> well  yea
[09:39] <rooly> ...
[09:39] <rooly> how long is the line for help?
[09:39] <khermans> Corvinis-L, i thought you wanted to install on windows, which is an EXE not RPM
[09:39] <vontux> khermans: "on demand"?
[09:39] <magnetron> !patience
[09:39] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:39] <MacDrunk> i have two shared folder
[09:39] <rooly> hahahaha
[09:39] <khermans> vontux, yeah, you can select what Mhz you want
[09:39] <MacDrunk> but how do i set up read and write options
[09:40] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: that is how i isntalled originaly, now it won't boot off the live cd
[09:40] <rooly> it's only that it's 2 am, i'm gonna be out-of-town all day tommorow and the day after, so i'd like to get my boot loader working asap
[09:40] <Corvinis-L> khermans > I said windows and linux..... so on both pc's a server and a viewer
[09:40] <omegacenti> khermans: I have actually been needing that could you tell me how?
[09:40] <ZubZ^> khermans,  and Jordan_U ... its workings... thanks alot!!!
[09:40] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: unless i choose 'graphical safe mode' then i get 'can't start Xserver' and it fails and drops me to a shell
[09:40] <khermans> MacDrunk, you must investigate smb.conf  --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[09:40] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try running that option to see something.
[09:40] <vontux> khermans: ah, so like it will keep the cpu at a certain speed just as the centrino chip is able to be adjusted?
[09:40] <rooly> barbarianhero:
[09:40] <Corvinis-L> khermans > Sorry if it sounded vague
[09:40] <rooly> that happened to me a few times
[09:40] <khermans> Corvinis-L, a VNC server is built into Gnome
[09:40] <MacDrunk_> ok
[09:40] <MacDrunk_> i will
[09:40] <rooly> do you have 2 video cards?
[09:40] <MacDrunk> iwill
[09:40] <omegacenti> khermans: I have actually been needing that could you tell me how? the whole on demand thing.
[09:41] <Corvinis-L> oh ic....
[09:41] <khermans> vontux, yea
[09:41] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah thats what im picking...it starts 'main: errors initalizing udevd socket: Illegal seek' [fail]  then ever is ok
[09:41] <vontux> khermans: so does it also have the ability to be set up so if it is plugged in it would use full cpu power?
[09:41] <bss> hey does anyone know how i can save changes after editing grub at boot ?
[09:41] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: sounds like its a problem with the drive, not the xorg.
[09:41] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: then i get Umcompressing Linux ... Ok, booting the kernel. next message is : kill: Could not kill pid '3565': No such process
[09:41] <Corvinis-L> khermans > I can combine tightvnc with the gnome vnc server ? Is there a viewer so I can check out my windows machine from linux ?
[09:42] <Ra|Ka> precedunce is all we know
[09:42] <khermans> vontux, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[09:42] <khermans> choose SUID bit on
[09:42] <vontux> khermans: awesome :) thx very, very much :)
[09:42] <barbarianhero> INIT: "id "!" respawining too fast: disabloed for 5 minutes...then all the way through Id "6" and then INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel and it just freezes
[09:42] <khermans> Corvinis-L, yup, vncviewer <yourip>
[09:42] <Ademan> anyone know about getting vlc 0.8.6b on fiesty? any repository or even just a deb out there for that version?  (long story but i kinda want/need the 0.8.6b as opposed to the 0.8.6 in the normal repositories as dumb as it sounds)
[09:42] <visor> hi everybody
[09:42] <barbarianhero> that is off the live cd
[09:42] <vontux> wow, this is a great channel on a great network, the rest of irc is in chaos, but you can always count on good ole' freednode :)
[09:43] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I have no frickin clue.. its out of my hands now. I think we should start cpr
[09:43] <khermans> Ademan, you could compile from source
[09:43] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: so strange...it worked fine until i started messing w/ x.org
[09:43] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try changing the H and V back to respectable values
[09:43] <Corvinis-L> khermans > Alright .... dankjewel :P
[09:43] <Ademan> khermans: yeah thats sort of a last resort for me
[09:43] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i had a crapy rez with some stuff of the left side of the screen but i want that back
[09:44] <khermans> Ademan, why, if the distro does not have it
[09:44] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: so strange, would the the live cd look onto /hda1 for x.org conf?
[09:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:44] <visor> do you guys know if there are compiz 0.4 binaries around? I've tried beryl but i just dont like it, too many configuration settings and stuff, i like better compiz but the default version in repos is 0.3
[09:44] <Ademan> khermans: i dunno i never like compiling things myself (except my own work :-) )
[09:44] <bayziders> Does any one know where I can download kiba dock?
[09:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I think it might.. which is really weird... maybe the CD checks to see if its already installed..
[09:44] <khermans> Ademan, you can make a package of it
[09:44] <rooly> hey, barbarianhero, have you tried resetting your bios stuffs?
[09:44] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah that is the only explanation i can think of other then my bios got hosed somehow
[09:44] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: however, that command will get you back to your original settings.
[09:44] <rooly> ya know, like pulling out the battery and unplugging your machine
[09:45] <Jordan_U> visor, They have their own repos ( or at least did before the merge, don't know for sure now )
[09:45] <Tom47> omegacenti here is a neat wayto achieve the benfits of nx into a windows box http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2004-October/000287.html
[09:45] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok ill try that now
[09:45] <omegacenti> tom47 Thanks :)
[09:45] <enry> ok i was right!
[09:45] <vontux> !debian
[09:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[09:45] <FYI> I just updated and something got f-ed up
[09:45] <MacDrunk> hey
[09:45] <visor> Jordan_U: i have already checked that out on their site, its an external repo but it has 0.3 version :(
[09:45] <enry> Grub doest't reinstall from Ubuntu partition
[09:45] <MacDrunk> i try to run sudo and it ask for a pass???
[09:45] <FYI> I cannot visit certain websites with firefox, opera etc
[09:46] <enry> if i whant to change something+
[09:46] <khermans> MacDrunk, yes that is the point!
[09:46] <magnetron> FYI: what kind of website?
[09:46] <enry> i have hat to go in debian
[09:46] <vontux> FYI: do the sites have flash in them?
[09:46] <bayziders> No one knows where I can get kiba dock at?
[09:46] <omegacenti> Does tightvnc viewer exist for Ubuntu?
[09:46] <wobx> MacDrunk: yes put in your password
[09:46] <enry> jiii!
[09:46] <khermans> omegacenti, just use vncviewer
[09:46] <MacDrunk> ok
[09:46] <wobx> omegacenti: just apt-get install vncviewer
[09:46] <FYI> vontux, magnetron: that's quite possible, I will try to replicate. I was checking hotmail.com, games.atari.com
[09:46] <jiii> enry: yes?
[09:47] <FYI> crash in Opera too
[09:47] <rooly> dangit
[09:47] <enry> jiii,  i war right
[09:47] <enry> s
[09:47] <jiii> enry: good
[09:47] <MacDrunk> ok is done
[09:47] <MacDrunk> thenr
[09:47] <magnetron> omegacenti: yes, installed by default. "Terminal server client
[09:47] <wobx> omegacenti: werks for all vnc servers except realvnc commercial you'd need to get their enterprise client
[09:47] <vontux> try reinstalling the flash plugins for firefox and opera in Synaptic or Adept for a quick dirty fix
[09:47] <omegacenti> khermans: assume my other windows pc only has tightvnc viewer. Can I still have tightvnc viewer for ubuntu? or is vncviewer tightvnc compatible
[09:47] <FYI> vontux, magnetron: it appears flash is the problem... what should I do? I think I am using the free one... Install directly from adobe's site?
[09:47] <vontux> FYI: try reinstalling the flash plugins for firefox and opera in Synaptic or Adept for a quick dirty fix
[09:47] <enry> jiii,  when you install 2 OS one is in charge in the Grub
[09:48] <omegacenti> magnetron: read response to khermans please
[09:48] <khermans> they all speak the VNC protocol
[09:48] <vontux> FYI: after closing both of course though
[09:48] <wobx> omegacenti: read my post
[09:48] <jiii> enry: I know.
[09:48] <omegacenti> wobx: just did :)
[09:48] <FYI> vontux: right :)
[09:48] <omegacenti> one sec :)
[09:48] <jiii> enry: but you have two configurations.
[09:48] <wobx> omegacenti: ^_^
[09:48] <magnetron> FYI: no, it's in the repositories. use synaptic
[09:48] <enry> my problem now is that Grub is very slow to accept my keyoboard input
[09:48] <enry> how to solve?
[09:49] <magnetron> omegacenti: the one that comes with ubuntu is tightvnc
[09:49] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: I have to restart brb
[09:49] <khermans> enry, set rate for keyboard in BIOS ?
[09:49] <vontux> !vnc
[09:49] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[09:49] <enry> the live cd of ubuntu can reinstall only the Grub?
[09:49] <omegacenti> magnetron: where?
[09:49] <rooly> alrighty then, here is what i did and what i need it to do: i had to reinstall ubuntu 7 because i got tired of 64bit not having any software. after completeing this, i specifically left 10 gigs out of a 200 gig HD for windows. i then rebooted and installed windows xp to this partition. on completeing this, i was unable to reactivate the boot flags on the linux partition from windows, so i used the ubuntu recovery mode to reinstate those. now wi
[09:49] <rooly> ndows refuses to load into grub
[09:49] <enry> khermans, i don't think that it will work
[09:49] <magnetron> "Terminal server client", omegacenti. it's in the internet menu
[09:49] <barbarianhero> omegacenti :ok
[09:50] <khermans> enry, it has worked for me, not particular to grub
[09:50] <enry> the live cd of ubuntu can reinstall only the Grub?...in the Debian dvd there is
[09:50] <vontux> rooly: xp, or vista?
[09:50] <omegacenti> magnetron: cool!
[09:50] <rooly> xp
[09:50] <k1gwb> I can't find where to make a new login in a nested window in feisty... i know it was there in previous versions
[09:50] <enry> khermans,  it's not the same problem than you
[09:50] <magnetron> FYI: use synaptic to uninstall gnash and install flash
[09:50] <enry> the live cd of ubuntu can reinstall only the Grub?...in the Debian dvd there is
[09:51] <vontux> rooly: I have the solution ;however, it is on an hd of a computer that I do not currently have access today, if I pm you and give you my e-mail address, you can e-mail me, and I can send you the pdf file I stored the answer in
[09:51] <rooly> sounds good to me
[09:51] <rooly> i promise i won't sell it
[09:51] <vontux> ok....
[09:51] <rooly> lemme nickserv identify real quick
[09:51] <magnetron> FYI: the adobe flash plugin is called flashplugin-nonfree
[09:51] <rooly> good to go
[09:53] <barbarianhero> hrm
[09:53] <rooly> so, does gnash freeze anyone else's machines?
[09:53] <rooly> or only mine
[09:53] <magnetron> rooly: it is still in alpha stage
[09:54] <rooly> makes sense
[09:54] <enry> solved by myself thanks
[09:55] <khermans> magnetron, rooly, try swfdec
[09:55] <khermans> http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[09:55] <khermans> youtube works with it too
[09:55] <vontux> rooly: whoops
[09:55] <rooly> yo
[09:55] <rooly> forgot to identify?
[09:55] <vontux> rooly: join #vontux and I'll give you my mail in there, I don't have pm registration
[09:56] <barbarianhero> anyone have some experience getting i810 driver to work with a widescreen lcd?
[09:56] <vontux> rooly: no, was trying to talk to you in #kubuntu
[09:56] <rooly> oh
[09:56] <rooly> lol
[09:56] <omegacenti> There we go
[09:56] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: hey...just removing the stuff i added to /etc/default/915resolution lets teh live cd boot and also allows me to boot into my hd w/ x.org functioning
[09:56] <omegacenti> in good ol' konversation. people will hate me for that comment..
[09:57] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: cool :)
[09:57] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: you didnt by any chance change the BIT= part of 915resolution last time around did you?
[09:57] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: yeah but i would sitlll like to have my native resolution supported lol
[09:57] <breezee> hello
[09:57] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i did on the first time i went around, but i went back and left it blank afterwards w/ no change
[09:57] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: heres a possible solution is that is ALL you want.
[09:58] <visor> so nobody is running compiz 0.4 on feisty?
[09:58] <bayziders> Can some one please help me find a kiba-dock.deb?
[09:58] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: download xserver-xorg-video-intel driver instead and use that. More than likely this will work
[09:58] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: consider this driver version 2.0
[09:58] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: that driver is available as apt-get or synaptics
[09:59] <viktor> hi
[09:59] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: i will try that...won't have to use 915 then correct?
[09:59] <magnetron> bayziders: i added a kiba package request some months ago. they are still working on it
[09:59] <barbarianhero> just change the driver port of xorg.conf to intel instead of 815
[09:59] <inaddy> 0clear
[09:59] <barbarianhero> er instead of i810?
[09:59] <sx66> what is the lowest memory hog for irc clients?
[09:59] <FYI> gaim
[09:59] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: might still have to, however I will want you to pastebin your 915resolution -l before it and your /etc/default/915resolution as well
[09:59] <FYI> combine all of your messengers
[10:00] <bayziders> magnetron: In the respirators?
[10:00] <rooly> thanks for the help peoples
[10:00] <khermans> sx66, irssi or bitchx
[10:00] <rooly> gotta hit the sack
[10:00] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: you will need to download the package first and THEN change it to "intel"
[10:00] <khermans> sx66, heh, or netcat
[10:00] <viktor> hi
[10:00] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: right...do i need an unsupported respoitory for that driver, it's not finding it
[10:00] <magnetron> bayziders: i requested in launchpad that they will add it in the repositories
[10:01] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: lemme see, it might be
[10:01] <bayziders> I am not seeing it in synaptic, are there any mirrors?
[10:01] <Lilacor> !power management
[10:02] <magnetron> bayziders: i did a REQUEST that they will add it. they are STILL WORKING ON IT
[10:02] <Lilacor> How do I prevent my box from going to sleep even when I have it set NOT to do so?
[10:02] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: http://pastebin.ca/552376
[10:02] <bayziders> So no =/
[10:02] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: its under misc graphical (universe)
[10:02] <bayziders> I can't belive no one hosted it on any mirror
[10:02] <Lilacor> power management in linux is busted, Linus knows it and it's a deal breaker for many... :(
[10:02] <MacDrunk> arggg to dificult to setup a samba server
[10:03] <khermans> Lilacor, only because the hardware doesnt follow specs
[10:03] <magnetron> bayziders: it's not about hosting it. it's about making the package in the first place
[10:03] <sx66> khermans: where would it say how much sys res it is taking?
[10:03] <buckdeer> Has anybody used "Jabbin" - the Jabber client with VoIP support (ala GTalk)?
[10:03] <omegacenti> barbarianhero: try editing mode 5c that might be a better choice.
[10:03] <Lilacor> khermans: do you know how to make my box not go to sleep?
[10:03] <khermans> sx66, top ?
[10:03] <khermans> Lilacor, sure
[10:03] <khermans> Lilacor, like when you close the lid?
[10:03] <Lilacor> no
[10:04] <Lilacor> khermans: when I have the screen locked for an extended amount of time
[10:04] <khermans> Lilacor, System -> Preferences -> Power Management
[10:04] <Lilacor> khermans: I've already set those and it isn't working
[10:04] <Lilacor> khermans: it goes to sleep no matter what and it's pissing me off
[10:04] <khermans> Lilacor, i wonder if the services need to be restarted
[10:04] <khermans> Lilacor, i always hack the files in /etc/acpi/
[10:05] <khermans> Lilacor, sleep.sh is a good one to tsrat with
[10:05] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: ok...i'll try 5c quick
[10:05] <khermans> Lilacor, try moving it to anotherfile name
[10:05] <Lilacor> khermans: any examples to go off of?
[10:05] <khermans> Lilacor, then it wont ever get called
[10:05] <Lilacor> khermans: that sounds very kludgy
[10:05] <Lilacor> :(
[10:06] <khermans> Lilacor, not really -- you said you dont want it to suspend
[10:06] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: nope...
[10:06] <khermans> Lilacor, maybe the GUI is broken
[10:06] <bayziders> HA I love google, I found a way to get a kiba dock poackage
[10:06] <khermans> or your hardware is not compliant
[10:06] <Lilacor> khermans: I s'pose
[10:06] <Lilacor> I hope this works...this is bad
[10:06] <khermans> Lilacor, why is it bad/
[10:07] <sx66> how do you make gaim not load up the nickserv on irc when it boots?
[10:07] <khermans> Lilacor, have you ever read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?
[10:07] <Lilacor> khermans: when you have something working all night and you wake up to find out that only 1 hour of the work was done because your box went to sleep... that's BAD (R)
[10:07] <FYI> still freezes up, even though I've removed flash and everything
[10:07] <khermans> the one with no consideration wants to pay money for something that "works", because he finds value in that solution, while the artists uses a hack to fix the problem as specified
[10:08] <khermans> Lilacor, well i would rename the file
[10:08] <Lilacor> khermans: I've already done that
[10:08] <Jack_> FINALLY got to the cpu on this laptop, no wonder it overheated the heatsink barely touches it and theres hardly any thermal paste left
[10:08] <esperegu> saluton chiuj
[10:08] <khermans> cool, now try to put it to sleep manually
[10:08] <Lilacor> khermans: hopefully that'll be a temporary fix...
[10:09] <khermans> Lilacor, hopefully it wont go to sleep :-)
[10:09] <khermans> sleep and supend are different btw
[10:09] <khermans> i mean hibernate
[10:09] <Lilacor> yeah
[10:09] <chris-in-leeds> Hi guys
[10:09] <Lilacor> I noticed
[10:09] <Lilacor> thanks
[10:10] <esperegu> what is the best way to get your programs launched quickly? I want like a custom commands at hand... (I used fluxbox before and then you can just add it to the menu which is always at hand very fast on right mouse click) I wondered how you guys do it. thx!
[10:10] <Catoptromancy> shell script
[10:10] <khermans> esperegu, add it to gnome toolbar?
[10:10] <khermans> the panel
[10:11] <esperegu> khermans: my serverlist has already 20 entries.
[10:11] <chris-in-leeds> Anyone know how to change the shell screen resolution?
[10:11] <khermans> esperegu, add the quick shell to your panel then
[10:11] <Enverex> How do you get a module to auto-load on system startup?
[10:11] <Enverex> (kernel module that is)
[10:11] <khermans> chris-in-leeds, pass vga=XXX to your kernel/
[10:12] <Corvinis-V> khermans > Do you know how i can change the basic vnc port in ubuntu.... I don't want ip:0 i want ip:anotherport
[10:12] <khermans> where XXX is the proper VGA resolution code
[10:12] <khermans> Enverex, /etc/modules
[10:12] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: sigh...lol this is much more of a pain then i ever thought possible lol
[10:12] <brett> so im using a creative Audigy 2 z2 audio card, and the audio was working a while ago... but now it wont work.. i'm using  "Audigy 2 Z2 [SB0350]  (Alsa Mixer)"
[10:12] <brett> any ideas?
[10:12] <esperegu> khermans: what's the quick shell?
[10:12] <Enverex> khermans, I'm sure I looked there before, no idea how I missed it
[10:13] <khermans> esperegu, its a mini shell sitting in your panel
[10:13] <Enverex> Where does module-assistant store its logs?
[10:14] <barbarianhero> omegacenti: garghhhhh
[10:14] <barbarianhero> 915resolution does not work very well w/ my setup
[10:14] <esperegu> khermans: damn... I so used to the right click on the desktop I keep clicking when I want something ;-)
[10:14] <khermans> esperegu, or ALT+F2
[10:15] <khermans> esperegu, run blackbox or fluxbox then
[10:15] <esperegu> khermans: yeah. I had fluxbox
[10:15] <khermans> :-)
[10:15] <khermans> i used to run blackbox on windows
[10:15] <esperegu> khermans: me 2
[10:15] <esperegu> :-)
[10:15] <esperegu> khermans: but I also like the way that ubuntu is really made for gnome/metacity
[10:16] <barbarianhero> does anyone know what i must do to install xorg-xserver-video-intel
[10:16] <esperegu> khermans: I tried to run fluxbox in the gnome session replacing metacity with fluxbox
[10:16] <econobeing> compiling/installing software should be the same for most distros of linux right?
[10:16] <barbarianhero> when i do apt-get install xorg-xserver-video-intel it gives my couldn't find package
[10:16] <esperegu> khermans: but that way the window positioning is not working properly
[10:16] <khermans> econobeing, yes
[10:16] <sx66> how do you set xchat to auto load servers, and channels on boot?
[10:17] <econobeing> because i had to do ndiswrapper manually, and i wanted to know if it would be as easy to install on another distro, like slackware or something
[10:17] <khermans> barbarianhero, xserver-xorg...
[10:17] <khermans> sx66, specify in the options
[10:17] <FYI> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
[10:17] <FYI> Bus error (core dumped)
[10:17] <barbarianhero> khermans: that doesnt work either
[10:17] <FYI> is the error I get from firefox.
[10:17] <econobeing> ubuntu is great and everything, but i wanna get down and dirty so i actually learn
[10:18] <Shankysv87> ubuntu is pissing me off.. i've been threw everything that anyone can think of.. and still no luck.. grub isn't being recognized.
[10:18] <brett> so why doesnt alsa work for me? im using creative audigy 2 z2...
[10:18] <khermans> barbarianhero, aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:18] <khermans> econobeing, try gentoo
[10:19] <khermans> Shankysv87, grub wont load?
[10:19] <Shankysv87> no
[10:19] <Shankysv87> i've reinstalled
[10:19] <Shankysv87> i began with just a partition
[10:19] <khermans> what happens?
[10:19] <barbarianhero> khermans: it doesn't give me anything
[10:19] <khermans> ensure fdisk reports no hidden partitions
[10:19] <Shankysv87> then i reinstalled
[10:19] <Shankysv87> again
[10:19] <econobeing> i've tried gentoo twice (it takes like 5 hours to install on my laptop >_<) but both times when i rebooted i ended up in a terminal and didn't know what to do... i don't think i installed a window manager...
[10:19] <khermans> barbarianhero, sudo aptitude update -- make sure you have all repos on
[10:20] <chris-in-leeds> Hi khermans... Cheers for that. Where is this done in the kernel?
[10:20] <Shankysv87> then i used ubuntu install to format the entire hdd
[10:20] <khermans> econobeing, well thats the dirt you wanted
[10:20] <khermans> :-)
[10:20] <Shankysv87> and still i can't access it
[10:20] <econobeing> yeah :P
[10:20] <slackmagic> econobeing: can't go wrong with slackware ;)
[10:20] <econobeing> i want something somewhere between gentoo and ubuntu
[10:20] <econobeing> yeah i was thinking slackware, heh. i'm downloading fedora 7 right now too
[10:21] <khermans> econobeing, hrmm how about slackware
[10:21] <zoidberg> guys where can i download gnome-applets?
[10:21] <snazzed> khermans:  Thanks a ton.  CVS is now running on my server and I'm able to connect  and do everything I need to
[10:21] <khermans> Shankysv87, tell me whatfdisk reports
[10:21] <econobeing> as long as i can get my wireless card working so i can come here or go to forums, i'll try pretty much any distro
[10:21] <khermans> zoidberg, many are buitl in
[10:21] <Shankysv87> how do i fdisk from xp?
[10:22] <khermans> econobeing, most wireless should work, even if you have to use ndiswrapper
[10:22] <barbarianhero> khermans: it still doesn't show anything...
[10:22] <slackmagic> econobeing: and to answer your question from before, yes from source it's all the same...find the proper way to package it all nicely before you install it, that way you can easily remove/update and keep your system clean
[10:22] <econobeing> i've practically memorized how to install and configure ndiswrapper to get my wireless working
[10:22] <khermans> Shankysv87, no do it from live cd
[10:22] <barbarianhero> khermans i have all the repos on that are in synaptic
[10:22] <khermans> barbarianhero, you have a problem buddy
[10:22] <Shankysv87> (i'm sorry i can't hardly thing anymore its 4:30am here and i've been doing this for hours)
[10:22] <Shankysv87> think
[10:22] <Tom47> omegacenti: just for you interest i think i will try wubi instead of colinux to see how freenx server in it can be linked as per prev url
[10:22] <Shankysv87> 8
[10:22] <zoidberg> khermans, i'm trying to download this gnome-applet that allows u to do CPU scaling...do u know how i can download it?
[10:22] <barbarianhero> khermans this is 6.06
[10:22] <khermans> barbarianhero, feisty?
[10:22] <khermans> zoidberg, its built in
[10:22] <Shankysv87> when i get in there.. how do i do that?
[10:23] <econobeing> what's everybody's opinion on fedora?
[10:23] <FYI> Does anyone have any idea why Firefox may be crashing after updating?
[10:23] <barbarianhero> khermans: is there a way to get it using dapper?
[10:23] <khermans> Shankysv87, sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[10:23] <khermans> or sda if it is a SATA disk
[10:23] <zoidberg> khermans, how do i acces it?
[10:23] <Shankysv87> its an ide
[10:23] <khermans> on panel, right-click add
[10:23] <Shankysv87> hdb
[10:23] <khermans> Shankysv87, second drive?
[10:23] <slackmagic> econobeing: what's your opinion on driving a VW? can't tell until you get one, test-drive it and then you'll know :D
[10:23] <Shankysv87> yes
[10:23] <Shankysv87> my first is what my xp runs on
[10:24] <khermans> Shankysv87, oh make sure you tell your BIOS to boot there
[10:24] <Shankysv87> how?
[10:24] <khermans> if thats where you are putting grub
[10:24] <Danopolis> anyone still use a dial-up connection in ubuntu?
[10:24] <barbarianhero> khermans: is there a way to get this in dapper or should i just install feisty?
[10:25] <Kenth> does anyone know why tftpd-hpa wouldn't be running after installing via apt?
[10:25] <mrcreativity> i need help with an ubuntu installation
[10:25] <Shankysv87> when i boot to the drive with ubuntu on it, will grub automatically realize that i have xp on there too?
[10:25] <mrcreativity> i installed SUM and changed some settings and now my installation doesnt boot
[10:25] <slackmagic> Kenth: tried to start it? getting an error?
[10:25] <sx66> when someone says your nick in xchat, how do you force open a tab so you can receive the notice?
[10:25] <Shankysv87> or will i have to change bios every time i want to xp it up
[10:25] <marmer> hy
[10:25] <mrcreativity> can someone please help me
[10:25] <khermans> barbarianhero, that package is not in dapper
[10:25] <drexxi> hi
[10:26] <khermans> barbarianhero, i recommend feisty
[10:26] <drexxi> can somebody help me to fix my sources.list
[10:26] <barbarianhero> khermans: ok i'll give feisty a try
[10:26] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24817/
[10:26] <Kenth> slackmagic, /etc/init.d/tfptd-hpa gives me no output at all.  if i manually run /usr/sbin/in.tftpd <options> it'll run, but not automatically
[10:26] <barbarianhero> kermans: thanks
[10:26] <Shankysv87> bbl
[10:26] <drexxi> i cant install build-essential
[10:26] <drexxi> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[10:26] <khermans> Kenth, sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart ?
[10:26] <sldkfj> sx66, try asking in #xchat
[10:26] <mrcreativity> i really need help, i cant boot into my ubuntu installation
[10:26] <sldkfj> drexxi, make it plural with an s
[10:26] <mrcreativity> i installed SUM and changed some settings and now my installation doesnt boot
[10:26] <Kenth> khermans, no output, no action from that.  i think it's supposed to start from openbsd-inetd
[10:26] <sldkfj> as in 'essentials'
[10:27] <slackmagic> Shankysv87: ubuntu comes with grub by default, it'll be your bootmanager handling all your installed OSs and will give you the choice to boot whichever OSs are listed in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:27] <khermans> Kenth, oh check your inetd config
[10:27] <Enverex> Where does module-assistant store its logs? (does it make logs?)
[10:27] <mk2> Hey I was wondering how I could Uninstall my beryl unsupported plugins?
[10:27] <mk2> Does anyone know how I could do this?
[10:27] <Smegzor> I'm using ubuntu 6.06 and I want to upgrade firefox but in synaptic it only has my version 1.5  How do I upgrade to the latest firefox?
[10:27] <Danopolis> does anyone know if ubuntu supports dial up modems?
[10:27] <mk2> Please, A little help?
[10:27] <Enverex> Danopolis, Of course
[10:27] <mk2> I don't have snow effect.
[10:27] <sldkfj> sudo apt-get --purge remove beryl-plugins-unsupported
[10:27] <roryy> Danopolis: i'm using one right now
[10:27] <khermans> Smegzor, either download binary from website or upgrade to feisty
[10:27] <Kenth> khermans, there was no entry in /etc/inetd.conf for it, so i added one, although just by copying the line above and changing the bin and options.  but restarting inetd doesn't seem to have any effect
[10:28] <Kenth> unless i'm restarting incorrectly
[10:28] <roryy> !dialup | Danopolis
[10:28] <ubotu> Danopolis: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:28] <khermans> Danopolis, yes it does
[10:28] <Danopolis> was it hard to get it to work roryy?
[10:28] <Smegzor> I did the download.  It seems I have to run it directly to use it.
[10:28] <mk2> Hello world!
[10:28] <slackmagic> Kenth: don't know how ubuntu handles the init-sys, but basically you have to make sure the script it installed has to be in the correct folder (correct runlevel dir) and has to be executable
[10:28] <roryy> Danopolis: i have a winmodem; it took a bit of effort.  Read the wiki link above
[10:29] <Danopolis> cheers mine is external supposed to be easier but got major problems
[10:29] <roryy> Danopolis: is it a usb modem?
[10:29] <mk2> Can someone give me the command line on how to install the beryl plugins?
[10:29] <ahmed_> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[10:29] <Smegzor> I'd love to upgrade to fiesty.  How do I do that?  I don't want to run the install cd over my installation.  It is also my file server.
[10:29] <Danopolis> no its a serial, worked in debian
[10:29] <khermans> Kenth, it should be in init.d like i said
[10:29] <mk2> Can someone give me the command line on how to install the unsupported beryl plugins?
[10:29] <khermans> /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa	restart
[10:29] <mk2> I mean
[10:29] <drexxi> mk2, sudo apt-cache search beryl
[10:30] <mk2> No that's not the one
[10:30] <roryy> Danopolis: hrm.  odd.  i'd have thought it would Just Work.
[10:30] <khermans> Kenth, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=tftpd-hpa&version=feisty&arch=i386
[10:30] <ahmed_> xwinwrap,, guys did any one try it ?
[10:30] <drexxi> sldkfj, the same
[10:30] <Danopolis> dials up fine, can ping okay, but when i got to access web or packages the system freezes completely
[10:30] <ahmed_> , guys did any one try it xwinwrap,??
[10:31] <drexxi> sldkfj, (10:30:58) xblacky: : Couldn't find package build-essentials
[10:31] <slackmagic> Kenth: output       ls -al /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
[10:31] <Tobias43> How goes it
[10:31] <khermans> drew, build-essential
[10:31] <Kenth> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1780 Dec 14 06:50 /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
[10:31] <mk2> It goes well
[10:31] <sldkfj> drexxi, what repo isn't available in /etc/apt/sources.list  ??
[10:31] <drexxi> khermans,  there is no way with build-essential or build-essentials
[10:31] <khermans> Kenth, right, so start it, and make sure you dont have any other tftpd servers installed
[10:31] <Kenth> a manual: sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa doesn't start it though
[10:32] <slackmagic> Kenth: should run fine with    /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start|stop|restart
[10:32] <Kenth> it doesn't
[10:32] <khermans> drexxi, no way to what?
[10:32] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24817/ <- this is my list
[10:32] <khermans> Kenth, what is the ouput?
[10:32] <sahil> is there a software like winiso or poweriso so some kind of iso making software for linux?
[10:32] <slackmagic> Kenth: pastebin the contents of  /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa
[10:32] <mk2> Can someone tell me the sudo line to get plugins?
[10:32] <khermans> sahil, dd :-)
[10:33] <sahil> khermans, what is dd?
[10:33] <khermans> sahil, disk dump
[10:33] <khermans> sahil, man dd
[10:33] <slackmagic> Kenth: should be    sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start
[10:34] <sahil> khermans, disk dump is not in the repo's, can i get a link for it ?
[10:34] <khermans> drexxi, your repos are incorrct
[10:34] <mrcreativity> can someone tell me if i can administer an ubuntu installation aafter booting from a live cd?
[10:34] <khermans> sahil, it is installed by default, dd
[10:34] <sldkfj> drexxi, they look screwed
[10:34] <drexxi> khermans, what does that mean? they are incorrect?
[10:34] <drexxi> ^^
[10:34] <sahil> khermans, so how do i use it?
[10:34] <khermans> drexxi, you only have universe enabled
[10:34] <slackmagic> sahil: man dd as khermans said or google for dd to see a few pages explaining or giving you examples
[10:34] <Kenth> great, pastebin not working
[10:34] <mrcreativity> i really need help please
[10:35] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:35] <drexxi> works
[10:35] <khermans> sahil, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[10:35] <slackmagic> Kenth: should be    sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start      <--- try that and see what it says
[10:35] <Kenth> slackmagic - yea there's no output from that
[10:35] <mrcreativity> can someone please tell me if i can administer an ubuntu installation aafter booting from a live cd?
[10:35] <Smegzor> What is the command to see which version of ubuntu I have installed?
[10:35] <zoidberg> guys how do u upgrade from breezy to dapper using the alternate CD?
[10:35] <slackmagic> Kenth: then you really have to look into   /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa and see what is scripted in there..no other way
[10:35] <khermans> Kenth, look at the script and maybe figure out why
[10:35] <Danopolis> yes there is an icon on the desktop
[10:36] <drexxi> could someone give me his source.list compatible to my dist?
[10:36] <Perun> hi all
[10:36] <khermans> Smegzor, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:36] <slackmagic> cat /etc/ubuntu-version perhaps? I don't know..I'm not on ubuntu
[10:36] <Perun> how can I change the locale for an user? (default should stay as it is)
[10:36] <bullgard4> hat are 'restricted modules'?
[10:36] <bullgard4> What are 'restricted modules'?
[10:36] <Madpilot> Smegzor, lsb_release -a
[10:36] <_Bud> mrcreactivity,I don't know ,what i did was just installubuntuon 100% HD
[10:37] <jussi01> bullgard4: they are the non open source drivers
[10:37] <Smegzor> ok  I have 6.06 How do I upgrade to Fiesty?
[10:37] <Jared> I went to login under root from the gui login screen and it said I can't do it...how do I login under root then?
[10:37] <Jared> Smegzor, type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <khermans> drexxi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24819/
[10:37] <Smegzor> thanks  this will take a while :)
[10:38] <drexxi> thank you
[10:38] <Madpilot> Smegzor, you'll need to upgrade to 6.10 first - can't jump versions
[10:38] <zoidberg> guys how do u upgrade from breezy to dapper using the alternate CD?
[10:38] <predaeus> drexxi, see also http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, upgrade | Smegzor
[10:38] <ubotu> Smegzor: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:38] <Smegzor> thanks again
[10:38] <khermans> Jared, no! dont do that
[10:38] <bullgard4> jussi01: Thank you very much.
[10:39] <Jared> khermans, I need to login under root, how do I do it?
[10:39] <khermans> Madpilot, sure you can, but you might break something
[10:39] <khermans> Jared, sudo -i
[10:39] <Madpilot> khermans, true... s/can't/shouldn't
[10:39] <Jared> thanks.
[10:39] <Kenth> ah great
[10:39] <slackmagic> Kenth: nirvana?
[10:39] <slackmagic> :D
[10:39] <khermans> Madpilot, i have done it with success
[10:40] <sldkfj> drexxi, look at this one:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24820/
[10:40] <Kenth> you have to update /etc/default/tftpd-hpa with RUN_DAEMON="yes" (default no), then sudo /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start (I had previously tried this but with a "restart")
[10:40] <Kenth> and i guess without being started in the first place, it fails when trying to stop
[10:40] <khermans> oh heh
[10:40] <Smegzor> if I do apt-get dist-upgrade will that upgrade in the correct sequence for me?  eg. to 6.10 first?
[10:40] <mrcreativity> i need to copy a few files in my ubuntu installation but it wont boot. can i boot using the live cd and try?
[10:40] <Kenth> normally wouldn't it just fail stop, and go start
[10:41] <khermans> Smegzor, you have to change your apt sources first to edgy
[10:41] <slackmagic> Kenth: you'll never forget that from now on..congratulations..learned something new..ain't gnu/linux great? :P
[10:41] <khermans> mrcreativity, sure
[10:41] <iTom> I've sorta got a problem.
[10:41] <predaeus> mrcreativity, you can boot from live cd and then mount the partitions of your ubuntu installation
[10:41] <Kenth> i guess that'll teach me not to expect all init.d scripts to be written with the same quality
[10:41] <Smegzor> ok  after I've done that and done the upgrade, do I need to change my sources again for fiesty?
[10:42] <iTom> Whenever I try running ubuntu from live cd, my computer's fan goes crazy... any suggestions?
[10:42] <mrcreativity> let me try
[10:42] <khermans> slackmagic, and you have the power to change it, yet you idle :-)
[10:42] <nzhomie> anybody know how to get amsn to work with tcl?
[10:42] <sldkfj> drexxi, still not getting it??   do a:    sudo apt-get update
[10:42] <khermans> Kenth, it is common
[10:42] <slackmagic> khermans: gotta feel guilty of something! :D
[10:42] <sldkfj> then try it
[10:42] <Kenth> well, i now have a have successful thin client.  it's loading the kernel, getting the Ubuntu splash screen, then a blank screen with a blinking horizontal cursor
[10:42] <chris-in-leeds> khemans - Cheers for the screen resolution info. I just googled the keyword vga= & I seem to have what I need.
[10:42] <khermans> iTom, remove the fan
[10:42] <Kenth> have a *half* successful...
[10:43] <mrcreativity> how to i log in as root?
[10:43] <khermans> Kenth, heh you ever try DRBL /
[10:43] <khermans> ?
[10:43] <iTom> Haha.
[10:43] <khermans> Kenth, i would do that rather than your hack to create a custom thin client
[10:43] <chris-in-leeds> khermans - Cheers for the screen resolution info. I just googled the keyword vga= & I seem to have what I need
[10:43] <mrcreativity> predaeus how do i log in as root to copy the files?
[10:43] <iTom> All it does is overheat... it's a laptop, too, new dell, 1.89ghz, sick of windows... etc etc...
[10:43] <khermans> chris-in-leeds, no prob
[10:43] <mrcreativity> khermans...how do i log in as root
[10:43] <iTom> it goes "Loading Linux Kernel 100%" then goes crazy.
[10:43] <khermans> mrcreativity, sudo -i
[10:44] <predaeus> mrcreativity, sudo will do
[10:44] <Madpilot> mrcreativity, you do not need to log in as root.
[10:44] <Kenth> khermans - no this is my first attempt.  all the ubuntu documentation pointed to ltsp-server
[10:44] <khermans> Kenth, yeah i know -- people should be trying DRBL
[10:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | mrcreativity
[10:44] <ubotu> mrcreativity: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:44] <slackmagic> envy all of you..i'm still here with my 5 year old POSes *sighs*
[10:44] <mrcreativity> kherman no i mean i need to copy files on my ubuntu installation after having booting from the live cd
[10:44] <khermans> mrcreativity, yeah so thats possible
 Can someone give me the command line on how to install the beryl plugins? ............   sudo apt-get --reinstall install beryl
[10:45] <Frogzoo> !beryl
[10:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:46] <mrcreativity> khermans: can u help me do it...i need to replace the menu.lst file with a backup i made
[10:46] <Kenth> i setup Beryl yesterday, damn sexy
[10:46] <khermans> mrcreativity, cant you boot with grub and use recovery mode option instead
[10:46] <khermans> ?
[10:46] <bout> I usb connected my new HP photosmart C3180 to my os, howver it wont print, although its conected, how can I go about troubleshooting? pherhaps the drivers arent loaded pls help
[10:46] <ebhk> can anyone tell me how do I install odecs on ubuntu? is there a command line?
[10:46] <mrcreativity> khermans: nothing is working. not even recovery mode
[10:46] <ebhk> *codecs
[10:47] <khermans> mrcreativity, how far does it get?
[10:47] <sldkfj> If you need help with Beryl, ya really need help in general first.
[10:47] <slackmagic> bout: tried googling for 'HP photosmart C3180 AND ubuntu' ?
[10:47] <Tobias43> #general_first?
[10:47] <mrcreativity> khermans: hard to say...it just stops,
[10:47] <khermans> at the splash ?
[10:47] <bout> the printer is detected, I see it in my printer manger
[10:47] <mrcreativity> i know there is something wrong with menu.lst because i was using SUM
[10:47] <sldkfj> tobias, cute ;)
[10:47] <mrcreativity> khermans: yes
[10:48] <khermans> go into grub, press e, edit the kernel line to ... rw single init=/bin/bash
[10:48] <Tobias43> Well, spaces didn't work. :P
[10:48] <Kenth> has anyone had issue playing encrypted dvd's even after installing all the necessary files such as libdvdcss2, w32codecs, totem-xine, etc..?
[10:48] <khermans> Kenth, no
[10:48] <khermans> i use vlc though
[10:49] <sldkfj> Tobias43, ehh, just a way of me saying beryl is simple
[10:49] <MistaED> hey all, where does ubuntu keep it's database on what ethX goes where? i need to change one from eth2 to eth0
[10:49] <Tobias43> Yes yes, just some humour out of me. :P
[10:49] <balor> Kenth: totem-xine is not necessary to play DVD's only for DVD menu browsing.
[10:50] <sldkfj> most people don't read 'man apt-get' or use synaptic
[10:50] <balor> Kenth: you also dont need w32codecs to play DVDs if you've got the gstreamer-ffmpeg stuff installed with totem (not totem-xine)
[10:50] <khermans> MistaED, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts
[10:51] <Tobias43> kdesu kdesu kdesu
[10:51] <MistaED> khermans, there is no sysconfig
[10:51] <slackmagic> MistaED: edit /etc/modprobe.conf and enter something like      alias eth0 DRIVERNAME1
[10:51] <khermans> doh red hat
[10:51] <sjoerd> MistaED, khermans: /etc/sysconfig is a redhat thingy
[10:51] <khermans> im not only on ubuntu!
[10:51] <slackmagic> MistaED: examples are       alias eth0 8139too
[10:51] <Jared> what command will allow me to check which version of linux i'm running?
[10:51] <MistaED> ok i have some kind of rhine
[10:51] <slackmagic> MistaED: or       alias eth1 3c59x        for example...
[10:52] <Jared> which version of ubuntu more rather
[10:52] <sjoerd> MistaED: either /etc/network/interfaces (change what config is on what iface) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
[10:52] <sjoerd> MistaED: to change what interface get which name (the exact naming of the udev rules file might be a bit different)
[10:52] <khermans> MistaED,, sjoerd, it would be /etc/iftab then
[10:53] <khermans> Jared, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:53] <Jared> Thanks
[10:53] <sjoerd> khermans: /etc/iftab is for ifrename iirc, which is obsoleted by udev these days
[10:53] <Jared> WHAT THE HELL??? I downloaded Feisty Fawn and installed it and now it says i'm running version 6.06
[10:53] <khermans> sjoerd, really?
[10:53] <Perun> should I set locales for an user in his own .bashrc/.profile or is there a better way to do it? (kde has my favorite language but not firefox/thunderbird and some tools, the language files for them are installed)
[10:54] <darkfena313> hello
[10:54] <darkfena313> how do i install new fonts?
[10:54] <khermans> darkfena313, aptitude search fonts
[10:54] <drexxi> sldkfj, sry i dont have ssh for that server the one who has is shopping atm, he is back in 10 minutes
[10:54] <Frogzoo> Jared: lsb_release -a
[10:54] <khermans> select some and install ...
[10:55] <darkfena313> aptitude?
[10:55] <khermans> ya
[10:55] <clsdaniel> darkfena313, http://penguinfonts.com/howto/ubuntu.php
[10:55] <sldkfj> oh really?  hahahhaa
[10:55] <Frogzoo> !fonts | darkfena313
[10:55] <ubotu> darkfena313: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[10:55] <khermans> Jared, you may have download wrong ISO
[10:55] <sldkfj> drexxo, when was I curious about ssh?
[10:55] <MistaED> thanks guys but just one more question, how do i refresh it now without restarting?
[10:55] <Bond_Weng> !apache
[10:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:55] <darkfena313> thanks
[10:55] <richardgr> quiero conocer gente nueva
[10:55] <khermans> MistaED, iface?
[10:56] <sldkfj> ubuntu version:  cat /etc/issue
[10:56] <MistaED> khermans, is that a command?
[10:56] <khermans> MistaED, no i mean your ifce?
[10:56] <khermans> MistaED, can you restart udev?
[10:56] <sjoerd> MistaED: you changed the udev rule or /e/n/interfaces ?
[10:56] <contajious> hi.  what are the dependencies for dhcp?
[10:56] <richardgr> te gustaria enrollarte conmigo
[10:57] <MistaED> sjoerd, i changed the iftab because the udev one didn't exist and the interfaces one was more or less just setting static ip's
[10:57] <Jared> Okay, how do I upgrade to edgy then?
[10:57] <MistaED> khermans, does udev read the iftab file?
[10:58] <khermans> Jared, sudo sed -i "s/dapper/edgy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[10:58] <khermans> MistaED, i am unsure
[10:58] <pkweb> hello how i disable ipv6?
[10:58] <khermans> MistaED, it may only be populated on boot, i dont know enough about it
[10:58] <MistaED> if in doubt, restart! :)
[10:58] <khermans> pkweb, google may help
[10:59] <khermans> this is a common task
[10:59] <Kenth> what's typically the device name for a dvd-rom?
[10:59] <khermans> pkweb, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[10:59] <khermans> Kenth, /dev/cdrom
[11:00] <drexxi> lol
[11:00] <drexxi> i really need help
[11:00] <khermans> ?
[11:00] <pkweb> thanks
[11:00] <FYI> can anyone help, I just updated my stuff and firefox and opera crash
[11:00] <khermans> errors?
[11:00] <Tobias43> Ever get people saying "do a 'sudo rm -drf /'"? Or does Ubuntu have some sort of preventative check for something that drastic?
[11:00] <Kenth> khermans, in VLC media player, should File > Open Disc > then changing the device to /dev/cdrom play a dvd?
[11:00] <khermans> i would think so
[11:00] <FYI> khermans, it says "Bus error (core dumped)" in terminal
[11:01] <khermans> FYI, oh could be bad
[11:01] <Madpilot> Tobias43, kickbanning anyone dumb enough to seriously suggest that in this channel is our main defence...
[11:01] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24826/
[11:01] <ajax4> Hey guys...I just installed the latest automatic update and it hosed my video configuration. I had to disable the nvidia driver to get it to boot. Anyone know what the deal is?
[11:01] <Tobias43> Indeed.
[11:01] <contajious> hi.  what are the dependencies for dhcp?
[11:01] <Tobias43> But now I'm tempted to try it. :P
[11:01] <Bucat2> hi guys
[11:02] <khermans> ajax4, using glx-new/
[11:02] <khermans> ?
[11:02] <FYI> khermans: how bad? as in have to reinstall linux bad?
[11:02] <Toomas> ajax4, new kernel was installed, so you'll need to re-install nvidia drivers
[11:02] <ajax4> khermans: I don't think so.
[11:02] <khermans> contajious, aptitude show dhcp
[11:02] <gregor> hi. what do i have to do to get some special keys on my logitech keyboard working? the problem is: They do not generate Keypress events or keycodes (tested with xev)
[11:02] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24826/ could someone tell me what i have to do to install that damn build-essential
[11:03] <khermans> FYI, you never have to reinstall if you root cause your issue
[11:03] <ajax4> Toomas: I installed my nvidia drivers from the synaptic packages. Shouldn't they update on their own?
[11:03] <khermans> gregor, xmodmap
[11:03] <Toomas> hm, yea they should have updated
[11:03] <FYI> khermans: I believe my latest update involved a new kernel
[11:03] <khermans> drexxi, add the sources we told you, then do aptitude update, then install
[11:03] <khermans> you must be on the internet of course
[11:03] <khermans> heh
[11:04] <khermans> FYI, -16 breaks some things i have seen
[11:04] <gregor> khermans yes... that works if i know the keycodes... i have and use that... but some keys dont generate keycodes
[11:04] <khermans> including xorg/nvidia
[11:04] <khermans> gregor, hrmm then probably your device configuration is not setup properly
[11:04] <drexxi> apitude update?
[11:04] <Toomas> ajax4, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx
[11:04] <khermans> gregor, google your exact device name and xmodmap
[11:04] <FYI> khermans: I have booted under different ones though... everything worked fine up until this latest update. firefox and opera are the only things that appear to be affected
[11:04] <sldkfj> drexxi, fix the broken package issue stated there\\
[11:05] <ajax4> khermans: I hope this doesn't happen to the friends I gotten to go to Ubuntu. If it does, I'll be getting some urgent phone calls....
[11:05] <khermans> drexxi, yes that refrsehes and pulls the list down
[11:05] <ajax4> Toomas: Thanks, I'll try that.
[11:05] <drexxi> you mean apt-get update
[11:05] <drexxi> ?
[11:05] <drexxi> ^^
[11:05] <khermans> FYI, not entirely sure then
[11:05] <khermans> ajax4, anything is possible
[11:05] <khermans> ajax4, buy them a Canonical support subscription
[11:05] <khermans> :-)
[11:06] <khermans> drexxi, no i mean -> sudo aptitude update, which is equivalent
[11:06] <drexxi> khermans,  i changed them and i dud update but still the same error
[11:06] <slackmagic> gregor: xev is what you're looking for
[11:06] <ajax4> Ok guys, I'm gonna reboot with the nvidia changes. Wish me luck :)
[11:06] <khermans> what is the exact error?
[11:07] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24826/
[11:07] <Jared> I wihs two proggies could use sudo at the same time.
[11:07] <khermans> ajax4 didnt need to reboot, just modprobe
[11:07] <khermans> oh well
[11:07] <khermans> Jared, ?
[11:07] <fargiolas> hi i'm trying to import some packages i've downloaded into synaptic.. these files are on a ssh share mounted with nautilus.. but those shares do not appear in the gtk file selection dialog called from synaptic.. is there a way to fix it? i think it's a common problem when using gksu
[11:07] <Jared> yes, khermans?
[11:07] <gregor> slackmagic: see above. i have tried it. some function keys generate events, thats fine. but some keys just stay dead without generating events
[11:07] <gregor> and thats the problem
[11:08] <khermans> Jared, sudo doesnt limit yo uto one prggie
[11:08] <Jared> well...not sudo but like apt-get
[11:08] <Jared> nm
[11:08] <Jared> hehe
[11:08] <Jared> I had a moment
[11:08] <slackmagic> gregor: which keys are those? and are you sure they're working?
[11:08] <Jared> khermans, why wouldn't edgy had shown up as an update?
[11:08] <drexxi> no one can help me?
[11:09] <khermans> Jared, yes apt is locked while operations are pending
[11:09] <khermans> Jared, you need to update first
[11:09] <khermans> we're at fiesty now
[11:09] <khermans> drexxi, i gave you lots of info
[11:10] <Jared> khermans, I already updated everythign else, just now started doing the update to edgy
[11:10] <drexxi> khermans, you said i should updatze that list and then apitude update
[11:10] <drexxi> i did that
[11:10] <fortitUs> hello everyone
[11:10] <drexxi> but i sill have the same problem
[11:10] <Jared> Ubuntu shoudl have a contest or something to pick the new name of ubuntu...I would so tell tghem to make it twitchy turtle
[11:10] <fortitUs> for /proc/PID/statm <- do i sum all the numbers to get total memory use? >_<
[11:10] <Jared> :P
[11:11] <khermans> drexxi, show me your apt sources again
[11:11] <darkfena313> im a new linux user, what is a good site for downloading the software i need
[11:11] <drexxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24825/
[11:11] <khermans> Jared, its somewhat alphabetical order
[11:11] <Jared> darkfena313, most stuff you can get from synaptic.
[11:11] <niekie> darkfena313: you can download most software you need without going to a website.
[11:11] <Jared> what was the first one?
[11:11] <niekie> Hi Jared!
[11:11] <khermans> after gutsy gibbon?  maybe Hairy Harley
[11:11] <gregor> slackmagic: http://www.nordichardware.com/news-pics/S510.jpg the working keys are the ones on the right side, except "shuffle". on the left side, only the "home" key works. all other keys are not (including the "mode" ones on the top
[11:11] <Jared> hi niekie ...
[11:12] <khermans> but we alreayd had Hoary Hedgehog
[11:12] <niekie> You the Jared I know from somewhere else? :)
[11:12] <fortitUs> and um how do i find the PID of a program within the program itself?
[11:12] <Jared> Don't think so...
[11:12] <Jared> My usual nickname is KI4IKL
[11:12] <slackmagic> gregor: http://www.nordichardware.com/news-pics/S510.jpg not found or it was still uploading
[11:12] <owner> Hi there
[11:12] <KI4IKL> This isn't my nick.
[11:12] <owner> Can someone please give me link from program to record desktop ?
[11:12] <owner> please
[11:12] <owner> for*
[11:13] <khermans> fortitUs, pidof ?
[11:13] <sldkfj> drexxi, what's wrong with this one?        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24820/
[11:13] <Gerro> owner: hmm you can use image magick and a script to grag a session of screenshots and make a movie out o fit
[11:13] <khermans> owner, vnc2swf
[11:13] <Tobias43> Love your submarine sandwiches, Jared.
[11:13] <Gerro> owner: but its not good quality
[11:13] <fortitUs> khermans: PID of the program itself
[11:13] <owner> khermans:  can u link it please ?
[11:13] <KI4IKL> haha...I'm not old enough to even have a job...I hope it's another jared making those sammiches :)
[11:14] <drexxi> sldkfj, nothing y?
[11:14] <khermans> fortitUs, getpid
[11:14] <slackmagic> gregor: veru strange couldn't wget it due to 404 error but display url worked just fine..o.O
[11:14] <fortitUs> khermans: thanks
[11:14] <KI4IKL> More 12 year olds should use linux :)
[11:14] <fortitUs> khermans: where is there under? >_<
[11:14] <ajax4> Well guys, no luck with my xorg/nvidia problem under -16.
[11:14] <khermans> KI4IKL, my bro has been using linux as main os since he was 7
[11:14] <gregor> slackmagic yes, strange indeed*g
[11:14] <khermans> heh, going on 3 years now
[11:15] <Gerro> KI4KIKL: my 6 year old brother uses linux all the time
[11:15] <KI4IKL> Neat...I started using it a year ago when I was 11
[11:15] <khermans> fortitUs, getpid() is a c call
[11:15] <khermans> fortitUs, so libc
[11:15] <sldkfj> drexxi, maybe this whole process isn't important, but if it was and I were you, I'd give it a try
[11:15] <owner> khermans:  can u link it please ?
[11:16] <khermans> googl vnc2swf
[11:16] <KI4IKL> How much does canonical support cost?
[11:16] <fortitUs> khermans: its a c program
[11:16] <khermans> fortitUs, right
[11:16] <khermans> KI4IKL, a few hndred
[11:16] <KI4IKL> For how long???
[11:16] <fortitUs> khermans: can i pass it like: /proc/getpid()/statm
[11:17] <khermans> KI4IKL, dpends on length and incidents
[11:17] <sldkfj> drexxi, I actually don't know about Dapper. but in synaptic/custom filters there should be a broken section that shows what is broken like that return the terminal gave you earlier stated.  find out what it is and take care of it
[11:17] <slackmagic> gregor: what's the model of this? i don't see why it wouldn't work, unless logitech just wants these to work under windows only...might want to google for that with 'logitech model AND .Xmodmap AND xev" and see what you get
[11:17] <khermans> fortitUs, no getpid returns the pid of your process
[11:17] <khermans> thats an int
[11:17] <fortitUs> um yea :D i mean i will sprintf it or something
[11:17] <mrynit> what is the command that commbinds sudo and gedit?
[11:17] <drexxi> sldkfj, this is a server ther is no synaptics
[11:18] <mrynit> its like sgkedit
[11:18] <sldkfj> gksudo gedit  /blah/blah
[11:18] <gregor> slackmagic, its a Logitech S510
[11:18] <khermans> fortitUs, sue you could
[11:18] <slackmagic> gregor: it's a nice lookig keyboard though..mine is years old and has a sticky e and stick F4 key
[11:18] <conatic> I have dl the new ubuntu but ubuntu is slow, my cdrom drive is always busy is it a correct iso or not ?
[11:18] <slackmagic>  Logitech S510
[11:18] <sldkfj> drexxi, you got aptitude?
[11:18] <sldkfj> that has a broken section
[11:19] <drexxi> yes
[11:19] <lina_> do new files or files downloaded from the internet have executable permissions by default?
[11:19] <drexxi> but i dont know that program, tell me what to do plz
[11:20] <fortitUs> khermans: do you know what the numbers on the mstat signify?
[11:20] <sldkfj> 'sudo aptitude'   will open it
[11:20] <fortitUs> i am parsing them to find the memory usage by the process..
[11:21] <lina_> like, if i download a text file from a unix server that has the executable bit set, will that be preserved?
[11:21] <khermans> fortitUs, no
[11:21] <fortitUs> damm :( thanks alot
[11:21] <DarkED> lina_: i'm pretty sure it wont
[11:21] <fortitUs> i mean really thanks alot :D
[11:21] <DarkED> lina_: thats why we have to do chmod +x for .bin files
[11:21] <drexxi> could someone help me with  2.6.16.33-xen and build-essential
[11:21] <Tobias43> Hmm, explain to me what the first number of chmod is? I know it's rarely used, but what is it?
[11:22] <MPS> hi, anyone an idea how to put my wlan card under feisty in monitor mode so that they will stay in monitormode and doesn't switch back to managed mode?
[11:22] <KI4IKL> Does anyone know a like "UBuntu Certified" type thing sorta like "Windows Certified"
[11:22] <sldkfj> with the cursor arrow click 'search'   find 'broken'
[11:22] <DarkED> KI4IKL: Windows Certified means "Give us$10,000 for a license and we'll call you certified."
[11:22] <jay_> what package is needed for banshee to transcode mp3's in feisty
[11:23] <KI4IKL> yeah :S
[11:23] <magnetron> KI4IKL: yes, it exists
[11:23] <DarkED> KI4IKL: Ubuntu does not need it :)
[11:23] <KI4IKL> Is there anything at all like that related to linux?
[11:23] <lina_> DarkED: but i seem to be able to run scripts off the bat without chmoding them.. i havent changed the ssytem at all
[11:23] <KI4IKL> Yeah...
[11:23] <khermans> gregor, http://tbirdd.ath.cx/helpxmodmap.html
[11:23] <magnetron> DarkED: think before you speak. there exists ubuntu certified stuff!
[11:23] <drexxi> yeah novell instructor and something like this exist
[11:23] <DarkED> lina_: you mean like running bash scripts and such? yeah, i dont think they have to be executables
[11:23] <KI4IKL> magnetron, if it does exist, where do I go to see about it.
[11:23] <slackmagic> gregor: so those specific keys do not give you any kind of keycode via xev is that right?
[11:24] <DarkED> magnetron: yes i understand but it was only a little joke
[11:24] <khermans> gregor, the link i sent yu solves al your issues
[11:24] <gregor> khermans thanks a lot, i'll have a look
[11:24] <magnetron> KI4IKL: www.ubuntu.com , click "partners" in the upper right corner
[11:24] <lina_> DarkED: I am just thinking about that dodgey openoffice "badbunny" worm.. it copys a script to an xchat directory
[11:24] <KI4IKL> is it bad that it is 4:30 in the morning and i'm not tired?
[11:25] <lina_> DarkED: shell scripts do have to be set executable.. or you couldn't execute it
[11:25] <magnetron> KI4IKL: yes, thats bad
[11:25] <khermans> gregor, np
[11:25] <mrmonday> I'm trying to install kubuntu in virtual box, but I get errors before I can get to a GUI
[11:25] <MPS> no one an idea?
[11:25] <DarkED> lina_: yes that is true, this is one of the reasons linux is so secure agains spyware/virii
[11:25] <jay_> KI4IKL: not so bad
[11:25] <khermans> mrmonday, what errors?
[11:26] <sldkfj> write down that package name and find quit in the normal place to close aptitude and go back to the terminal..... then in the terminal type:      sudo aptitude -f <that package name>
[11:26] <jay_>  what package is needed for banshee to transcode mp3's in feisty
[11:26] <khermans> MPS, you cant use ndiswrapper
[11:26] <DarkED> lina_: er, .bin's are not shell scripts. .bin's are binary executables, and yes, they have to be chmodded +x before executing
[11:26] <DarkED> lina_: perhaps shell scripts do as well... i cant remember heh
[11:26] <MPS> khermans: i don't use ndiswrapper
[11:26] <MPS> khermans: using ipw2200
[11:27] <khermans> jay_, libmp3  liblame /
[11:27] <khermans> ?
[11:27] <DarkED> lina_: but the thing is, when you download a file, your linux system gives it permissions depening on which users downloads it (user accout, root, etc.) but it is never set executable by default
[11:27] <mrmonday> Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 309572
[11:27] <lina_> DarkED: i am aware that a .bin generaly is a binary application file.. but shell scripts still need the executable bit set
[11:27] <mrmonday> is one of them
[11:27] <lina_> DarkED: will test that
[11:27] <khermans> DarkED, .bin is insignificant
[11:27] <sldkfj> ok, I'm sleepy enough now, I can get back to what I was previously involved in.
[11:27] <MPS> khermans: seems something to do with wpa_supplicant. but if i kill it, it works but i don't get my network able to connect to my wpa network
[11:27] <mrmonday> I also get SQUASHFS errors
[11:27] <DarkED> lina_: ok, so shell scripts do need the executable bit
[11:27] <khermans> MPS, iwconfig eth0 mode monitor ?
[11:27] <magnetron> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | jay_
[11:27] <ubotu> jay_: ubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.2 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[11:28] <MPS> khermans: yes, it puts it shorty in monitor mode, but wpa supplicant puts it back into managed mode.
[11:28] <khermans> MPS, dunno, could be network manager screwing with ya
[11:28] <snikker> i've run debsum and i've a lot of "no md5sums for ..." why this?
[11:28] <jay_> magnetron: many thank u's
[11:28] <MPS> khermans: possible, any idea how to stop it proper? no kill -9 xyz
[11:29] <DarkED> snikker: perhaps it does not have an md5sum to hash against?
[11:29] <khermans> MPS, kill nm-applet
[11:29] <magnetron> jay_: make sure you enable the multiverse repository
[11:29] <MPS> khermans: it's not just the applet. there must be a daemon that runs as root
[11:29] <MPS> khermans: also tried this
[11:29] <jay_> done that. all packages downloaded and installed restarting banshee
[11:30] <Peppery> Hi. I was wondering if it would be possible to install Windows Vista onto a partition, Ubuntu on to another partition, then from within Ubuntu use Windows (QEMU or VMWare?) in a VM, and then boot into Vista and use Ubuntu in a VM
[11:30] <scales> where can i find c:\windows folder?
[11:30] <snikker> DarkED: yes, but a standard files (as binutils, at, bzip2, and so on) should have it. or i'm wrong?
[11:30] <errno_> horde
[11:30] <Gerro> Peppery: or run ubuntu with wine that can emulate all windows and vista then use beryl for all the eye candy so superior to vista theme :)
[11:30] <jay_> will this convert my ogg files in order to copy to ipod only or permanently
[11:31] <Supaplex> Peppery: like www.googbye-windows.com or something? and dual boot?
[11:31] <MPS> khermans: i think NetworkManager could be the problem accordingly to the man page
[11:31] <DarkED> snikker: hmm, i'm not sure which files have an md5 embedded and which dont...
[11:31] <scales> where can i find c:\windows folder?
[11:31] <[2hype] > /home/username/.wine/drive_c/windows
[11:31] <lina_> DarkED: well, i made a ls.sh (containing only /bin/ls) on my webserver and set the exectuable bit. i then downloaded it to ubuntu and ran "/bin/bash ls.sh" this worked
[11:31] <ompaul> jay_, you can also use rockbox on your ipod and use ogg
[11:31] <snikker> DarkED: ok
[11:31] <Gerro> scales: do ls -a to see hidden folders with "."
[11:31] <ompaul> jay_, sorry on most ipods
[11:32] <jay_> 5g video?
[11:32] <lina_> DarkED: although the executable bit is actually not preserved it seems
[11:32] <ArchebuS> can anyone answer me a scripting question ?
[11:32] <ompaul> jay_, let me check
[11:32] <lina_> ArchebuS: which?
[11:32] <DarkED> lina_: so the script ran without setting it executable?
[11:32] <magnetron> !anyone | ArchebuS
[11:32] <ubotu> ArchebuS: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:32] <ArchebuS> i wanna use read
[11:32] <ArchebuS> as in to read a yes or no answer
[11:33] <ArchebuS> but i dont want the user to have to press enter
[11:33] <r3tex> anyone here know if thunderbird 2.0 and Pidgin 2.0 are coming to Feisty Backports?
[11:33] <lina_> DarkED: if you type /bin/bash whatever.sh then yeah
[11:33] <ompaul> jay_, from the rockbox.org website Apple: iPod 4th gen (grayscale and color), 5th/5.5th gen video, 1st gen Nano and Mini 1st/2nd gen (Nano 2nd gen is not supported)
[11:33] <lina_> DarkED: wget www.mrintegrity.net/~variant/ls.sh
[11:33] <ompaul> jay_, there is a #rockbox on freenode :)
[11:33] <lina_> DarkED: it has the +x set on the server
[11:33] <khermans> Peppery, vmware supports RAW DISK option
[11:33] <rob_p> DarkED, lina_:  You only need to set your shell script executable if you don't call it with the command interpreter.  Otherwise you do.
[11:33] <DarkED> lina_: yeah
[11:33] <jay_> afraid of bricking my ipod
[11:33] <jay_> hmmm seems interesting
[11:33] <cox377> is there a command for reloading usb devices?
[11:34] <DarkED> jay_
[11:34] <lina_> rob_p: i see
[11:34] <DarkED> er whoops
[11:34] <jay_> apt-get install rockbox ;p
[11:34] <DarkED> jay_: install rockboz on your ipod
[11:34] <DarkED> rockbox* even
[11:34] <sahil> anyone know how to make a text look like a waterwark or faded type effect in openoffice word processor
[11:34] <lina_> cox377: mount -o remount /dev/sdwhatever
[11:35] <lina_> DarkED: rob_p thanks!
[11:35] <cox377> lina_: it's not a flash drive, it's a usb KVM switch, for some reason since i have upgraded from kubuntu 606 to ubuntu 704 it doesnt always retake and i have to reboot every time
[11:35] <cox377> lina_: i've got a keyboard hooked up via ps2 but i was wondering if there is a way to reload all usb
[11:35] <darkfena313> in order to view certain pages i require flashplayer i wan to know before i download  it if its compatible with linux
[11:35] <zacherri1> yes darkfena
[11:36] <darkfena313> ok thanks
[11:36] <[2hype] > Web browsing with azureus open ::not downloading:: is generally fast, as soon as a torrent begins to download..even if it's 1kb/s, web pages that would normally take a quarter of a second to load now take 20 seconds. What would cause this?
[11:36] <DarkED> darkfena313: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:36] <cox377> anyone?
[11:37] <darkfena313> DarkED i dont know what your saying
[11:37] <DarkED> [2hype] : open connection settings in azureus and decrease the number of outgoing/incoming connections
[11:37] <Plantain> what format does ubuntu format disks as by default?
[11:37] <DarkED> darkfena313: use that command to install flashplayer 9 plugin
[11:37] <tom__> Morning Everyone - Had ubuntu installed for 24 hours and so far so good =) However the only way to get my bluetooth mouse and keyboard to work is to dissconnect and re-connect it at the login screen. Is there a way to automate this ?
[11:38] <DarkED> [2hype] : if you decrease the incoming/outgoing connections you should see webpages load a little faster, utorrent has this same issue in windows
[11:38] <roryy> Plantain: default filesystem type is ext3 (a standard linux filesystem type)
[11:38] <Plantain> ahh, thanks
[11:38] <darkfena313> DarkED where do i type in that command
[11:38] <[2hype] > gotcha, i'll give it a shot. Thanks DarkED
[11:38] <DarkED> darkfena313: in a terminal
[11:38] <darkfena313> im not a computer wiz
[11:38] <spike_s> Plantain, you still use floppies? wow!
[11:38] <DarkED> [2hype] : no prob, hope it works for you :)
[11:39] <Frogzoo> darkfena313: you want the non free flash from the repos
[11:39] <roryy> Plantain: oh, you meant floppies?  no, that might be different
[11:39] <spike_s> Plantain, I suspect floppies are formatted for DOS/Windows
[11:39] <Frogzoo> darkfena313:  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:39] <Plantain> huh?
[11:39] <darkfena313> Frogzoo what to you mean?
[11:39] <Plantain> Who said floppies?
[11:39] <cox377> !restart usb
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restart usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <gregor> khermans the link is good, but the approach described there (testing output with dmesg) does not create results.. i can't find these "unknown key" messages in dmesg
[11:40] <roryy> Plantain: not you.  i had a late night, sorry ;)
[11:40] <spike_s> Plantain, oh sorry, when you said "disks" I assumed something removeable and small
[11:40] <Gerro> !boobies
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boobies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <Gerro> mmkay
[11:41] <spike_s> ok.. so is this channel considered a general help channel for ubuntu or just a random ubuntu channel that people hang in.. I'm asking now so I don't get flammed or blammed for trolling or anything.
[11:41] <roryy> spike_s: support channel.  join us on #ubuntu-offtopic for random chatter
[11:41] <spike_s> ahh ok
[11:42] <alexises> hello i have a problem for recep a connection to ssh protocol
[11:42] <esperegu> How can I add a menu? So that I will have 'Applications - Places - System - MYMENU'
[11:42] <Gerro> spike_s: there also ubuntu-effects
[11:42] <alexises> my routeur is configuret tu accepter the 22 port and iptable
[11:42] <gregor> khermans: looking through the system logs, i found this line: "from config file: CustomKeycodes disabled" could that be the cause?*g
[11:42] <ccooke> esperegu: Right click on the menu, choose "edit menu"
[11:42] <spike_s> can anyone here help me figure out what kind of processor this system I'm on has.. it refuses to boot the 64-bit Feisty Fawn
[11:43] <spike_s> I've not used Linux in quite some time, this is taking.. getting used to.
[11:43] <spike_s> it's so visually different than it used to be.
[11:43] <esperegu> ccooke: I can then add items to 'Applications' and 'System' but pressing 'New Menu' adds a menu below 'Applications' while I want it on the same level
[11:44] <slackmagic> alexises:  http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#send-dhcp
[11:44] <ccooke> esperegu: Ah. That I don't *think* is so easy
[11:45] <esperegu> ccooke: it should be... I tried to add a custom menu to the panel but then I get the same menu twice.
[11:46] <spike_s> ok is an RSS reader required or will Firefox handle that without issues?
[11:46] <graveson1> how do i configure tv out. I have a HP DV 4000 laptop ?
[11:47] <avaj> hi guys
[11:47] <ccooke> esperegu: I don't think Gnome supports that without a seperate application to make the extra menu
[11:47] <tom__> Morning Everyone - Had ubuntu installed for 24 hours and so far so good =) However the only way to get my bluetooth mouse and keyboard to work is to dissconnect and re-connect it at the login screen. Is there a way to automate this ?
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: there *is* something you can do, though
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: If you right click on the panel, select "add to panel"
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: choose the Drawer option
[11:48] <esperegu> ccooke: I have that.
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: Right.
[11:48] <ccooke> esperegu: I think that's the best you can do.
[11:49] <esperegu> but then I can't seem to get a text next to the icons in that
[11:49] <slackmagic> graveson1:    http://www.google.com/search?q=HP+DV4000+twinview&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[11:49] <karine> hi! how do i set specific settings of my screensavers?
[11:49] <esperegu> ccooke: is it posible that the drawer shows the name next to the icon?
[11:49] <ccooke> esperegu: I suspect if it can, it'll be a per-icon setting
[11:49] <slackmagic> graveson1: basically google for twinview, xorg.conf and your HP DV4000
[11:50] <graveson1> slackmagic: i was using the wrong keywords
[11:50] <ccooke> esperegu: it's just another type of panel - some of the things that are added to the panel can display as text instead (or in addition) to icons
[11:50] <fortitUs> hi does anyone know what statm outputs?
[11:50] <roryy> tom__: like this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/79394    there's a workaround given there
[11:50] <jbs> hi all
[11:50] <slackmagic> graveson1: np and good luck
[11:50] <esperegu> ccooke: any chance u know how? I did not seem to get it done (that's why I switched to menu)
[11:51] <jbs> how can i download...clock application ?
[11:51] <ccooke> esperegu: it's an option on the individual icons, not on the drawer.
[11:51] <ccooke> esperegu: and not all will have it
[11:51] <jbs> may i question of...
[11:51] <ccooke> esperegu: basically, it's unlikely it'll do what you want.
[11:51] <tom__> rorry - Thanks Man - i will give it a shot now =)
[11:51] <esperegu> ccooke: :-(
[11:51] <alexises> slackmagic i don't understand that the documentation can help me
[11:52] <slackmagic> jbs: try ...   xclock :P
[11:52] <rinky> my /var/log/messages shows records of "localhost exiting on signal 15" and "localhost syslogd 1.4.1~17ubuntu7: restart" just one second later, but I have no recollection of asking it to do any of this, anyone know what it could be? seems to happen on its own
[11:52] <jbs> may be...
[11:52] <slackmagic> alexises: did you say that you couldn't remotely connect to one of your ubuntu systems via ssh?
[11:52] <jbs> i wanna clock program
[11:53] <jbs> xclock? is it contained on 7.04 ?
[11:54] <alexises> slackmagic yes i have a timeout error
[11:54] <ccooke> jbs: yes
[11:54] <slackmagic> jbs: should be..but i am not sure..don't use ubuntu..if not i'm sure a simple    sudo apt-cache search xclock    will give you some more hints if it's available
[11:54] <slackmagic> alexises: sorry meant to give you this link      http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#remote-access
[11:55] <spike_s> you guys are nice, but incredibly busy
[11:55] <BigError> hi all
[11:56] <spike_s> hi BigError
[11:56] <alexises> slackmagi i have do not use the link (zsorry i speak french but the french irc can't help me)
[11:56] <Gerro> spike_s: what you need?
[11:56] <roryy> karine: i think it might not be possible with gnome screensavers.  Maybe the xscreensaver package offers customizable screensavers, though I'm not sure.
[11:56] <alexises> slackmagic i am the king of the error
[11:56] <slackmagic> alexises:  je sais parler un peu francais
[11:57] <jbs> hum ..how can i download..desktop clock program ?
[11:57] <roryy> spike_s: try 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' to get cpu information.  'uname -a' to see what sort of kernel you're running
[11:57] <spike_s> Gerro, well I'm really looking for recommendations, I'm setting up this system for my Niece who is a non-geek and thought I'd go with Ubuntu for her, I've not used Linux in years, I'm mainly a Mac OS X user.. but I figured.. hey.. what the heck this might work well.. anyways.. any recommendations on software for a newbie?
[11:57] <slackmagic> alexises: il faut visiter cette link ..c'est pour installer ton ssh
[11:57] <karine> rorryy, not possible?
[11:57] <rinky> anyone know what "localhost exiting on signal 15" means? I get it once a day on my /usr/var/messages
[11:57] <BigError> I updated from 6.10 to 7.04 and now my windowspartition is empty, while i did not touch it... Ideas??
[11:57] <Gerro> karine: if its in gnome its customizable, gnome is fully open source so have a good go at those screen savers
[11:57] <mrmonday> What is the password for a Kubuntu live CD?
[11:57] <alexises> sclackmagic thenks if you can say  thin in fren can do pease ifelse speak es in english
[11:57] <jbs> hum
[11:58] <rinky> mrmonday: I think its a blank password?
[11:58] <roryy> karine: you can adjust the idle time ( settings -> preferences -> screensaver), but i see no way to change the settings of a *particular* screensaver
[11:58] <alexises> ubuntu ?
[11:58] <jbs> ;) sorry i cant english.....so short
[11:58] <spike_s> roryy, I'm using Fiesty Fawn 32bit currently with all updates.. it's a Pentium 4 2.8Ghz I don't understand why this processor isn't 64-bit I assumed all P4's above 2Ghz would be, am I wrong in that? I don't use Intel processors before Core 2 Duo usually.
[11:58] <slackmagic> alexises:  uh..qoui? :D
[11:58] <slackmagic> ifelse?
[11:58] <mrmonday> rinky, I have tried ubuntu no pass, but it just restarts X
[11:58] <Gerro> spike_s: ooh might want to try xubuntu with redmondxp theme, make sure you grab adobe flash and sun java from synaptic. and a nice video player for ubuntu is totem (should grab all those gstreamer plugins so you can play all videos)
[11:58] <mrmonday> kubuntu won't work
[11:58] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: if you are trying a vmware machine look for the nfo...you might find it in there
[11:59] <Gerro> spike_s: my sister plays around on my linux box all the time loves it
[11:59] <rinky> mrmonday: when you enter an incorrect password, your x restarts?
[11:59] <alexises> slackmagi if you can say it do it please if not speak in english thenks
[11:59] <mrmonday> rinky, only for ubuntu, no pass
[11:59] <slackmagic> mrmonday: it's not set..but you can set one       sudo passwd
[11:59] <xif> Hi. I'm having trouble connecting to my wireless network with Feisty, anyone care to help?
[12:00] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, where can I find that? Is there one for Virtual box?
[12:00] <xif> the wireless card driver is installed, and Feisty recognizes it
[12:00] <spike_s> alexises, the proper phrase would be "Parle Vous Francais por favor?"
[12:00] <slackmagic> alexises: good tip!
[12:00] <mrmonday> slackmagic, I can't get to a CLI
[12:00] <xif> I can also see the network I'm trying to connect to
[12:00] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: are you trying a pre-configurred vmware machine?
[12:00] <vladuz976> anybody know how to make histograms with openoffice? it seems that function is missing and really badly needed for a spreadsheet
[12:00] <xif> but when I try to connect to it, it doesn't work.
[12:00] <Gerro> spike_s: does your neice game at all? there is also wine package from winehq if she needs a few windows apps, and gaim/pidgin is kind of screwy in development now so might want to try amsn or another multi client
[12:00] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, I'm using virtual box
[12:00] <Kenth> ha, wrong root-path causing ltsp not to boot
[12:00] <roryy> spike_s: actually, after looking at the output of /proc/cpuinfo, it's not obvious to me how to tell what sort of processor one has.
[12:00] <Kenth> fixed, ltsp working fine
[12:00] <alexises> yes spike_s
[12:00] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: ok, and you did a install with an image you had?
[12:00] <spike_s> BigError, I suspect something wiped your Windows NT Partition table
[12:00] <slackmagic> mrmonday: open a terminal, type in that command    or use    CTRL+ALT+F2-F6
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: i meant u booted with the livecd you had
[12:01] <gharz> guys, what's the command to completely remove an application? everytime i run aptitude remove --purge <app>... the configuration is not deleted.
[12:01] <spike_s> try doing a repair on NTFS from a NT/2k/XP/2k3/Vista CD/DVD and see what happens, then reinstall your boot-loader.
[12:01] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, yes
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: or using a pre-configurred livecd image?
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: gimme a sec
[12:01] <alexises> slackmagic what i must du i have open the port in iptabla and my router but it is not open for the web test
[12:01] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, I am using the iimage I got off ubuntu.com
[12:01] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: what version?
[12:02] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, kubuntu 7.04
[12:02] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: a sec
[12:02] <mrynit> what is the difference in placing a symbolic link in /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin ?
[12:02] <rinky> aptitude purge packagname
[12:02] <slackmagic> spike_s: actually it's Parlez-vous francais s'il vous plait?    :P
[12:02] <BigError> spike_s would the other partitions still work in that case? cause they do..
[12:02] <Enverex> !bluetooth
[12:02] <rob_p> gharz: Or, type, "sudo apt-get --purge remove --assume-yes <package>" at the command line.
[12:02] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:03] <kraut> moin
[12:03] <gharz> rinky, isn't the command aptitude remove --purge package still the same?
[12:03] <gharz> rob_p, i executed sudo bash
[12:03] <yaeyo> Hi all, is there any chance of getting ati fglrx (x1600) to output just to the external monitor?
[12:03] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: whats the username:password you tried?
[12:03] <darkfena313> what is synaptic?
[12:03] <DJ-_-> !synaptic | darkfena313
[12:03] <ubotu> darkfena313: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[12:03] <rob_p> gharz: k
[12:03] <ccooke> darkfena313: the package manager used by default in Ubuntu
[12:04] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, tried ubuntu, ubuntu;ubuntu, blank;kubuntu blank
[12:04] <rinky> gharz, i think apt-get accepts --purge as an argument, but aptitude accepts purge as a command, not certain
[12:04] <spike_s> Gerro, she mainly wants to use the system for work, and for some gaming I may put the wine pkg on, if I can grok it, I think I'll stick with gaim actually since I'm a little experienced with it from Win32 and Mac OS X.
[12:04] <DJ-_-> mrmonday: did you try ubuntu:blank
[12:04] <DJ-_-> brb - fone
[12:04] <BigError_> I updated from 6.10 to 7.04 and now my windowspartition is empty, while i did not touch it... Ideas??
[12:04] <mrmonday> DJ-_-, yes
[12:04] <slackmagic> mrmonday: as I said you can try as many passwords as you want..it won't let you in as root since there is no root password set..you've got to find a way to set it via   sudo passwd    (terminal, or any of the ttys : ALT+CTRL+ F2-F6)
[12:05] <Gerro> spike_s: well amsn has awesome webcam/audio support, few of my buds have some cams too
[12:05] <mrmonday> slackmagic, I can't get to a CLI, as I'm stuck at a login screen
[12:06] <slackmagic> mrmonday: like i said  please try         ALT+CTRL+F2   , change the password, then get back to your X window with   ALT+CTRL + F7
[12:06] <kane77> how can I make beagle store its indexing on other disk?
[12:06] <ccooke> mrmonday: What image did you download? do you happen to remember the URL?
[12:07] <Gerro> spike_s: if you really want to get creative and wow her with its performance: http://blog.lxpages.com/2007/04/24/ubuntu-performance-guides/
[12:07] <ccooke> kane77: Easily enough. Is the other disk already mounted?
[12:07] <kane77> ccooke, yes
[12:07] <ramorek> hello all
[12:07] <ramorek> i was wondering can i log out to start another session while im connected via NX ?
[12:07] <mrmonday> ccooke, no, sorry
[12:07] <mrmonday> slackmagic, it won't do it for the VM
[12:08] <mrmonday> slackmagic, it does it for me...
[12:08] <joe_> someone want to look over this simple script i wrote and see if it looks ok ?   mostly its the fluxbox menu part i am wondering about.
[12:08] <seb__> hola
[12:08] <joe_> http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt
[12:08] <ccooke> kane77: the overview of what you do is: Move the beagle directory to the other disk, then create a symbolic link from there to your home directory.
[12:08] <ramorek> i was wondering can i log out to start another session while im connected via NX ?
[12:08] <ccooke> kane77: is the other disk a unix filesystem? not ntfs or fat?
[12:09] <kane77> ccooke, unfortunately not... it's fat
[12:09] <ccooke> kane77: Right. That's more of a problem I think.
[12:09] <ccooke> kane77: damn, door. BRB
[12:09] <spike_s> BigError, yes, the other partitions would still work, Linux ignores the NTFS usually and same from XP/Vista
[12:10] <arooni> where should i put a .jar file that i want to be able to run from any directory?  and how do i run it?
[12:10] <slackmagic> joe_: menu file looks fine to me..don't know why anyone would want Xev under Development menu but it looks ok :P
[12:10] <yaeyo> Anyone with ati fglrx driver experience around ?
[12:10] <joe_> slackmagic  i mean the part in the script that sticks it in the .fluxbox dir
[12:10] <joe_> slackmagic wasn't sure how to do that
[12:11] <kane77> arooni, create a script something like java -jar nameofthefile.jar and make it runnable (chmod +x) and put it in /usr/bin
[12:11] <roryy> arooni: run it with 'java -jar file.jar'
[12:11] <slackmagic> arooni:  http://www.google.com/search?q=run+.jar+under+linux&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[12:12] <joe_> arooni  any scripts you write, stick them in /usr/local/bin/   better there so you can find them and manage them better
[12:12] <slackmagic> joe_: ah that   that would be    wget http://joereid.homeip.net/menu --output-document=/home/username/.fluxbox/menu
[12:12] <joe_> slackmagic  ah.  that is exactly what i was wanting. thanks. :)
[12:12] <slackmagic> np
[12:13] <joe_> slackmagic  does ~ translate in the bash scripts ?
[12:13] <joe_> slackmagic or resolve i mean
[12:13] <ccooke> kane77: back, if you're still here
[12:13] <slackmagic> joe_: i would use the absolute path in this case
[12:13] <kane77> ccooke, yep
[12:13] <atlef> is it possible to save my list of podcasts in amarok, so i do not have to set it up at a later date?
[12:14] <ccooke> kane77: I don't think beagle will work from a FAT filesystem
[12:14] <ccooke> kane77: unless you do some unsafe things with your system
[12:14] <kane77> ccooke, ok, nevermind... thx anyway
[12:14] <spike_s> is this chan safe to idle in?
[12:14] <spike_s> or no?
[12:14] <ccooke> kane77: the only other thing you could do is make a loopback filesystem on the fat partition, and store the beagle stuff in there
[12:14] <kane77> ccooke, does it automatically remove index files for removed files?
[12:15] <ccooke> kane77: Pass. I believe so
[12:15] <slackmagic> spike_s: if freenode kicked all idle folks here, it would be 2/3 empty :P
[12:15] <joe_> atlef  yeah, you can save like the whole folder, .kde/share/apps/amarok or something and it will save all that amarok stuff.   run the command: "find .kde |grep amarok" to get a list of where that stuff all is
[12:15] <atlef> thx
[12:16] <gonzoism> slackmagic  i changed nick.  was joe_    um.  if i go absolute, everyone has to have identical username or a symlink to their ~
[12:16] <atlef> joe_ : but does that work across amarok versions?
[12:17] <mrmonday> so does no one know what the password for a kubuntu live cd is?
[12:17] <gonzoism> atlef  yes. unless something horrible happens in amarok development.  most linux stuff is backwards compatible.
[12:17] <spike_s> slackmagic, ahh ok, lol
[12:17] <atlef> joe_: ok, i'll try that
[12:17] <slackmagic> gonzoism: then use  $HOME/.fluxbox/menu
[12:17] <gonzoism> mrmonday lol, it shouldn't be asking for one.  something is wrong.
[12:18] <gonzoism> slackmagic  :)
[12:18] <mrmonday> gonzoism, hmm
[12:18] <wibble> mrmonday, the username and password are usually on the same site that you downloaded the image from if it's a vmplayer image
[12:18] <gonzoism> lol, who is  89.241.234.185
[12:18] <gonzoism> ?
[12:18] <mrmonday> wibble, it is a normal CD image...
[12:19] <wibble> mrmonday, oops, sorry
[12:19] <slackmagic> gonzoism: might be them:       a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com
[12:19] <gonzoism> mrmonday is it coming up in like console or like normal ?  or what ?  cause you really shouldn't be asked for pw.
[12:19] <drexxi> beye
[12:19] <drexxi> bye*
[12:20] <mrmonday> gonzoism, like the normal KDE login screen
[12:21] <MattJ> Hi all. I installed a custom version of a package from source, using checkinstall. Now the update notifier keeps telling me it needs updating to the latest Feisty version. Is there a way to stop this?
[12:22] <atlef> envy, automatix2 or manual install of nvidia driver? which gives the best results for a new user
[12:22] <gonzoism> mrmonday  wow. i think passwords are disabled.   you might try dropping to the console and seeing if it is open, and if so, set a pw with passwd command. or look for a default user.  but really, you might try rebooting first, because you shouldn't be asked for one.  you might also try just pressing enter on blank user and pass and see if it defaults for you
[12:22] <wibble> mrmonday, are you installing a VM?
[12:22] <mrmonday> wibble, yes - Virtual box
[12:23] <roryy> atlef: i'd say the best results for a new user are to use the ubuntu provided drivers; the wiki should have installation instructions.
[12:23] <wibble> mrmonday, were asked to set the username and password during the install?
[12:24] <atlef> roryy : ok
[12:24] <mrmonday> gonzoism, tried all of them, and I can't drop to a console
[12:24] <slackmagic> mrmonday: can't believe you can't use CTRL+ALT+F1-F7 within virtualbox ...that's just ...sad
[12:24] <DarkED> how do i pause a wget -c that is currently in progress? i need to reboot
[12:24] <mrmonday> wibble, I haven't even got tto the install!
[12:24] <wibble> mrmonday, oh, I see your problem now
[12:25] <gonzoism> darkeD  ctrl-c it and then wget -c it when you come back.  might echo the url to a tmp file in your home dir first.
[12:25] <bottle> hi i want program for cutting from any photo?
[12:25] <slackmagic> mrmonday: you have no chance of getting to root if you can't drop to any of your other ttys ..since the password is not set and you would have to set one..sorry to say that
[12:25] <gonzoism> bottle gimp
[12:25] <gonzoism> bottle gnu image manipulation program.  gimp.
[12:25] <gonzoism> did anyone run that script ?
[12:26] <DavidHKMrPowers> can ubuntu read ntfs drives?
[12:26] <Jimmey> bottle, the GIMP
[12:26] <DarkED> gonzoism: echo the url to a temp file in my home dir?
[12:26] <bottle> gonzoism how can i cut from the photo?
[12:26] <frank_b> I get some horizontal lines when watching .vob video files. does anyone know if it's a codec problem or a linux ati driver problem?
[12:26] <wibble> mrmonday, I may be asking what you've already answered. But is it a live cd your booting?
[12:26] <bottle> Jimmy how?
[12:26] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, yes
[12:26] <mrmonday> wibble, yes
[12:26] <gonzoism> bottle play with it.  there are gimp howtos everywhere.
[12:26] <Jimmey> bottle, try www.google.com for some tutorials
[12:26] <DarkED> DavidHKMrPowers: yes, it can also write to them using the ntfs-3g driver
[12:27] <finalbeta> There was an update yesterday for xvid library or something, today half my music doesn't play. Ubuntu updates are getting as dangerous as windows updates :P.
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: just one picture?
[12:27] <bottle> ya
[12:27] <crimsun> finalbeta: that was an sru for feisty.
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: or do you have to do that to hundreds of images
[12:27] <DarkED> finalbeta: lol... i'm sure there's a good explanation
[12:27] <wibble> mrmonday, did get a list of boot options? If so, did you was there an Install option.
[12:27] <spike_s> you know I think I just figured out that I need to have this running on a MacBook Pro under Parallels just to have it handy for support
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: display yourpictureyouwanttocutfrom.ext
[12:27] <crimsun> finalbeta: read the changelog to see which bug it fixed.
[12:27] <gonzoism> frank_b you might try changing the output or display setting.  like the xv or opengl option
[12:27] <spike_s> I'm really impressed with Ubuntu
[12:27] <mrmonday> wibble, tried all the options...
[12:27] <slackmagic> bottle: and run on another terminal or shell     import thenewcutfile.ext
[12:27] <spike_s> where SuSE 6.3 was almost a royal pain.. this thing is amazing.
[12:27] <DavidHKMrPowers> Jimmey DarkED thanks! :D
[12:28] <slackmagic> click and choose what you want to cut out and there we go
[12:28] <spike_s> the package management is flawless.
[12:28] <DarkED> spike_s: yep, ubuntu is an incredible linux distro
[12:28] <Elko> Gday. How can I get a bigger resolution than 1440x900 on my laptop?  It's a GF-7300 and I put bigger modes in xorg.conf, but in the log it always says 'No valid modes for "1680x1050"; removing'.
[12:28] <spike_s> I remember the Dark Days of Linux.. back when you chose a distro based on drivers and what hardware you had.
[12:28] <gonzoism> anyone here have a fresh install ?
[12:28] <frank_b> gonzoism, hmm, ok. I get the problem also in totem. can I change that in totem also?
[12:28] <luke__> hello, im a new linux user and i would like to know, is there any av programs for it? my dads a vuries protector freak
[12:28] <slackmagic> Elko: what laptop? brand/model ?
[12:29] <Jimmey> Elko, you need to make sure that the modes you're specifying are supported by your monitor
[12:29] <gonzoism> luke__  should be able to.  i like gmplayer
[12:29] <Jimmey> luke__, clamav
[12:29] <Elko> slackmagic: acer aspire 9302wsmi.
[12:29] <Elko> Jimmey: how do I find out the supported modes?
[12:29] <luke__> gmplayer clamav? could i have a link? please?
[12:29] <spike_s> Elko, do you have an Accellerated Server built for the GF-7300?
[12:29] <slackmagic> Elko: give me a sec ...has nothing to do with the video card...your laptop's screen has a resolution limit..just checking to see if you can go beyond what you have rigth now
[12:29] <Jimmey> Elko, do you have some documentation for your laptop?
[12:29] <frank_b> gonzoism, I'll look for that in totem also. thank you very much for your help :)
[12:29] <spike_s> it sounds like it's removing things you stick in cause it can't map them or something.
[12:29] <gonzoism> elko what video card ?  i have the aspire too
[12:30] <Elko> spike_s: Do you mean the NV 3-D acceleration? That works, compiz and beryl don't complain there.
[12:30] <gonzoism> anyone here have a fresh install of feisty ?
[12:30] <anandanbu> Does anybody know how to remove the hyperlink's in a document that is edited using openoffice.org word processor
[12:30] <Jimmey> gonzoism, yeah
[12:30] <Enverex> How do I connect to the serial device of a Bluetooth device?
[12:30] <Elko> gonzoism: NVidia GeForce Go 7300 TurboCache, that's what it says on the sticker.
[12:30] <spike_s> luke__, clamav which comes on the Knoppix Live disc/iso if I recall correctly..
[12:30] <spike_s> among other discs
[12:30] <Elko> Jimmey: 'fraid not.
[12:30] <gonzoism> jimmey  want to run my script ?  it will install a bunch of stuff for you.  cool stuff.  http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt    i'm wanting to get it tested
[12:31] <luke__> thanks, ill look around
[12:31] <Jimmey> Elko, do you still have Windows installed?
[12:31] <Elko> Jimmey: lol, no.
[12:31] <luke__> i do lol
[12:31] <gonzoism> elko  k, i'm ati.  was gonna offer you my xorg.conf
[12:31] <Jimmey> gonzoism, what stuff?
[12:31] <spike_s> gonzoism, my install is fairly fresh did it yesterday, adding packages now, finished the updates tonight
[12:31] <Elko> Jimmey: That was the first thing I removed ;)
[12:31] <Elko> gonzoism: Thanks, but that's not going to work, no, heh
[12:32] <Elko> slackmagic: Where are you looking up that info?
[12:32] <luke__> downloading clam av now
[12:32] <gonzoism> jimmey um.  nes snes and sega emulators.  um...  kubuntu-desktop too, (you can look through the script and comment all the stuff you don't want out) automatix2, sox, aterm, like a general base of apps i like
[12:32] <slackmagic> 1440x900 is the max Elko
[12:32] <Elko> :(
[12:33] <slackmagic> Elko: good of course
[12:33] <Jimmey> luke__, the only real need for a Linux-antivirus is to make sure that you don't pass on infected files to Windows users. There aren't any real viruses for Linux
[12:33] <gonzoism> spike_s  take a look at that script.  maybe you want to copy and paste some of it.  the .screenrc and asciiquarium stuff is pretty cool.  also the aterm command.  http://joereid.homeip.net
[12:33] <TheGame1> Hi smart people, how do I select a random dir in a folder of hundreds of dirs (albums) and play all the contents with mplayer?
[12:34] <gonzoism> spike_s  oops, habit.   joereid.homeip.net/install.txt
[12:34] <Jimmey> gonzoism, it's a bit harsh putting kubuntu-desktop in there, isn't it?
[12:34] <luke__> Jimmey: my dads a av freak he wants me to have it no matter what... im 12 and really intrested into comps i built the 1 im using
[12:34] <slackmagic> luke__: if it's a production system/server, might want to play with it, other than that I wouldn't even bother with AV protection
[12:34] <DavidHKMrPowers> Jimmey DarkED can an ordinary ubuntu read ntfs?
[12:34] <gonzoism> spike_s  here is clickable.  http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt
[12:34] <DavidHKMrPowers> i mean can a freshly installed ubuntu read ntfs?
[12:35] <slackmagic> TheGame1: mplayer /folderone/foldertwo/insidefolder/anotherterriblesubfolder/*
[12:35] <gonzoism> thegame1 lol, i liked the setup to that question...
[12:35] <rinky> DavidHKMrPowers: yes it can read, but read only
[12:35] <bart> hallo Ik ben Greetje, en ik zit naakt op bed
[12:35] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, yeah. Type "sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS" into a terminal, and tell me what it says
[12:35] <slackmagic> TheGame1: my bad..you said random :D
[12:35] <TheGame1> Or, is there a command to select a random line from a list?
[12:35] <alexseif> ubuntu
[12:35] <rinky> DavidHKMrPowers: if you want write access, you need to install ntfs3g
[12:35] <neosimago> DavidHKMrPowers: yes. much of the kernel is modular, and ntfs support is modularized in the generic kernel.
[12:35] <spike_s> ahh gonzoism sorry, not putting any custom scripts on here, this system is targeted for a newbie, my account will only be fore remote admin.
[12:36] <DavidHKMrPowers> thanks guys!!
[12:36] <spike_s> and I normally don't use Linux
[12:36] <bart> hi i'm bart and i'm naked
[12:36] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, once Ubuntu's installed, it should mount the NTFS drive for reading automatically, and place a shortcut on your Desktop
[12:36] <spike_s> the thing that will suck is I have to find a Dialup ISP and a dialup modem for this Ubuntu
[12:36] <bart> mmmmmm
[12:37] <spike_s> I have an older modem that should work fine.. but I don't know if there's a firmware update out there to make it V.90 compliant
[12:37] <darkfena314> how do type in another language for OpenOffice?
[12:37] <DavidHKMrPowers> Jimmey then i need to install something to be able to write on it?
[12:37] <neosimago> spike_s: why not order it shipped to your door?
[12:38] <rinky> DavidHKMrPowers: yes, there are a few options for installing write support, ntfs3g is the most popular I think
[12:38] <Ra|Ka>   http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6be4fie
[12:38] <DJ-_-> bk and I need help in finding a client to update my dns records with dyndns
[12:38] <spike_s> order what?
[12:38] <neosimago> order ubuntu on cd or dvd.
[12:38] <rinky> DavidHKPowers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions?action=show&redirect=NTFSReadWrite
[12:38] <spike_s> neosimago, I have high speed
[12:38] <neosimago> why download over modem?
[12:38] <rinky> anyone know what "localhost exiting on signal 15" means? I get it once a day on my /usr/var/messages
[12:38] <Jimmey> DavidHKMrPowers, yes.
[12:39] <spike_s> I already have downloaded two iso's of Feisty Fawn and it's installed and running
[12:39] <spike_s> I'm just worried about trying to get a modem working on here for her
[12:39] <spike_s> it'd be really nice if I could put icons on the desktop
[12:39] <neosimago> ah... no worries.
[12:39] <spike_s> or something
[12:39] <DavidHKMrPowers> rinky Jimmey thanks :)
[12:39] <kamikaye> hey guys
[12:39] <neosimago> i've found that linux is very flexible to accomodate, especially older hardware.
[12:39] <luke__> does avg free work on linux?
[12:40] <kamikaye> i got a problem with the ati driver isntallation
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: i don't think so... why would you want it?
[12:40] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: i think the best linux av, is ClamAV
[12:40] <spike_s> I'd like to have something where she clicks and it connects to the internet (I'm sure a panel button would do) and I'd love to have something where she clicks and it brings her to a chat session with me or a few other chat sessions
[12:40] <neosimago> luke__: looking for an antivirus solution? use clamAV
[12:40] <slackmagic> rinky:  http://www.google.com/search?q=localhost+exiting+on+signal+15+%2Fvar%2Flog%2Fmessages&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[12:41] <spike_s> I'd also love to have it where she clicks and it automatically sends me an email requesting a remote access session to fix a problem.
[12:41] <IndyGunFreak> Linux AV is overkill however
[12:41] <spike_s> I know that most of that is wishful thinking.
[12:41] <kamikaye> so can someone help me?
[12:42] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | kamikaye
[12:42] <ubotu> kamikaye: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:42] <spike_s> neosimago, I kinda think of this system as NEW.. cause it's really fast and only the hard drive is "small" by todays standards, it really could benefit from a AGP video card separate from the motherboard,
[12:42] <spike_s> but it's not required
[12:42] <Enverex> !bluetooth
[12:42] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:43] <spike_s> the real tricks will be when I go to setup DVD video
[12:43] <spike_s> lol
[12:43] <neosimago> spike_s: then where do you seek insight from this company of fellow users?
[12:43] <gonzoism> lol, i joined #linux thinking i was in here.  i spent about 10 minutes at least until i figured it out
[12:43] <gonzoism> :)
[12:43] <IndyGunFreak> spike_s: lol, why is tha ta trick?
[12:43] <kamikaye> yeah of course i read already a lot of how2s
[12:43] <kamikaye> but my problem ist that i installed the driver.run file with "./" and now i have to configure the driver with aticonfig --initial and that doesnt work and the driver now isnt completely installed and i also cant uninsall it
[12:44] <spike_s> neosimago, well I'm just used to doing everything the Macintosh way.. and putting up with Windows (any version) when I have to since I'm a DSL support tech by trade.
[12:44] <gonzoism> kamikaye you can use dpkg --force i think
[12:44] <kamikaye> k i'll give it a try
[12:44] <Trashkiller> lol :D
[12:44] <gonzoism> kamikaye or there might be a force option for apt-get  /search the man page and find out
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> one of these days, ubuntu will just buck up and put ATI drivers in the repos.
[12:45] <spike_s> I'm sure most of what I need is documented either on the Ubuntu forums or out on the web somewhere, but I enjoy having a chat channel behind me from time to time as I tend to idle wyld on Undernet helping others with their Mac issues.
[12:45] <neosimago> yet still, whats the insight you seek here spike_s?
[12:45] <IndyGunFreak> but ati is the devil, get Nvidia.
[12:45] <kamikaye> im confused apt geht o0?? im new to this ..
[12:45] <spike_s> I'm not a stranger to Linux, heck my first distro I used was Red Hat 4.2 on a Pentium 100Mhz, but that was long ago before the age of MMX
[12:46] <gonzoism> so is anyone testing or going to test my script ?  http://joereid.homeip.net/install.txt  i'd love any input.  especiall if it runs all the way through or now.
[12:46] <gonzoism> or not
[12:46] <neosimago> well, that's the case, i'm a cousin to ubuntu with gentoo as a native tongue.
[12:46] <billy> hello folks, why is there no .profile create for user by default?
[12:46] <spike_s> neosimago, are you asking for what is the Zen influence that I want to achieve enlightenment with Linux or something?
[12:46] <gonzoism> kamikaye really, apt-get ? you don't know /
[12:46] <gonzoism> ?
[12:47] <spike_s> I'll ask my questions as they come to me..
[12:47] <neosimago> naww... hanging out is just fine.
[12:47] <gordboy> gonzoism, don't be a plonker. do you really think people are going to run your script ?
[12:47] <kamikaye> i really dont know cause im really new to this
[12:47] <luke__> plnoker, lol
[12:48] <spike_s> I kinda quit using Linux after SuSE 6.3 and I went back to using Mac OS X full time and then dealing with the various Microsoft things at work.
[12:48] <kamikaye> i used windows as long as i can remember
[12:48] <gonzoism> kamikaye   no problem
[12:48] <magnetron> gonzoism: that script will install automatix2 !!!
[12:48] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[12:48] <gonzoism> kamikaye   learn this command:  sudo apt-get installl "program-name"     you can install this
[12:48] <magnetron> !automatix | gonzoism
[12:48] <ubotu> gonzoism: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:49] <spike_s> the idea here is because this system cannot run Windows for financial reasons of my niece.. I thought, ok, well her Dad gave her a really nice system with a blank hard drive.. I'll just fill in the blanks and put something that she should be able to handle on her own and grow with.
[12:49] <kamikaye> 7.04
[12:49] <spike_s> and I'll wait till she either thanks me or cries wolf.
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> automatix is a terrible idea, second, it doesn't install an ATI driver.
[12:49] <i386> using the ubuntu 7.04 live cd, can I resize the HFS partitions on my macbook?
[12:49] <gonzoism> kamikaye   its the main install thing.  its the command part of Synaptic.
[12:49] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[12:50] <gonzoism> i don't think its a terrible idea.  not too much different of an idea than that script i wrote.
[12:50] <magnetron> gonzoism: don't hand that script out, it may seriously damage ppls computers
[12:50] <luke__> bluetooth not working on my linux, any sugustions?
[12:50] <madunix> any one running RHEL on p520 IBM system p?
[12:50] <rinky> i386: I dont think 7.04 has ntfsresize, which is part of ntfsprogs. On the other hand, ntfsresize might be built into Gparted, not sure
[12:50] <gonzoism> gordboy   yes
[12:50] <i386> luke__ install bluez-gnome
[12:50] <IndyGunFreak> gonzoism: there's a lot of problems with it breaking systems.  I used it on dapper/edgy, never had a problem, seems the big issue, is when you try to upgrade your OS.
[12:50] <i386> rinky: HFS not NTFS
[12:50] <spike_s> i386, I would not use the live CD to resize HFS partitions on a MacBook
[12:50] <spike_s> EVER
[12:50] <gonzoism> IndyGunFreak  ah
[12:50] <luke__> how?
[12:50] <rinky> oops, sorry i386
[12:51] <spike_s> i386, there is a correct way to do that
[12:51] <gonzoism> i always do a clean install
[12:51] <IndyGunFreak> gonzoism: but i always do clean installs instead of upgrade, so I've never had an issue.
[12:51] <i386> rinky using the package manager
[12:51] <i386> Synaptic
[12:51] <spike_s> i386, the correct way is to resize them using the Boot Camp utilities and then.. boot the Live CD
[12:51] <spike_s> go see the How-To on using Ubuntu with Boot Camp
[12:51] <spike_s> i386, OTOH you may want to think of using Ubuntu with the new Parallels
[12:51] <iulian_> hi, I have a problem with installing ubuntu 7.04 on a Dell Inspiron 1300: I can't create 2 more partitions (ext3 and swap); have any idea why?
[12:52] <kamikaye> the problem is that the half installed driver isnt shown in the synaptic paket manager, so i dont know how to uninstall it
[12:52] <i386> spike_s yeah I use VMWare fusion right now
[12:52] <gonzoism> kamikaye  there is a from dos/windows to linux howto over at tldp.org you might want to check it out.  it was the first one i read, and really helped wonders.  lots of general information and like a rosetta stone for anyone coming from windows
[12:52] <i386> spike_s but im thinking of working on gusy
[12:52] <spike_s> which supports 3D OpenGL and Direct X on Windows XP/Vista so it'll get interesting with Linux soon I'm sure.
[12:52] <i386> gusty*
[12:52] <lokk> can any one help me with this network problem i'm having
[12:52] <gonzoism> kamikaye   where were you installing from ?  like from source ?
[12:52] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: get an Nvidia card, it'll make your life better.
[12:53] <luke__> i386 how do i install bluez-gnome
[12:53] <kamikaye> at the installation i typed "./atidriverxXXxxxx.run
[12:53] <kamikaye> that was all
[12:53] <iulian_> can someoane help me? I can't create 2 partitions only one
[12:53] <i386> luke__ use Synaptic
[12:53] <DJ-_-> anyone know of a client for dyndns updating
[12:53] <luke__> the pack manager? kk
[12:53] <i386> luke__ look in the System Menu
[12:53] <iulian_> I want to have also windows and ubuntu
[12:53] <i386> luke__ yes
[12:54] <lokk> are there any known network issues with feisty fawn?
[12:54] <gonzoism> kamikaye  run this command:  file atidriverxXXxxxx.run   is it a bash script ? or what ?
[12:54] <gonzoism> DJ  yeah, they have a dyndns script at dyndns.org  i used it for years.
[12:55] <magnetron> DJ-_-: it's perfectly alright that you ask here, but you should also get yourself used to search in synaptic
[12:55] <gonzoism> DJ-_- they also have a graphical client.  also a web version, where you update on the web.   i think you can find the script from them on freshmeat.  try searching for dyndns
[12:55] <nux_usr> lokk:  What type of network problem(s) are you having?
[12:55] <kamikaye> root@alin:/home/alin/Desktop# file ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run
[12:55] <kamikaye> ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run: data
[12:56] <luke__> i368 i cant find bluez-gnome in the pack manager
[12:56] <DJ-_-> gonzoism: thx
[12:56] <DJ-_-> magnetron: thx
[12:56] <gonzoism> kamikaye did it error when you ran it ?
[12:56] <gonzoism> try ./atidriverxXXxxxx.run -help   or -uninstall
[12:56] <kamikaye> well it showed me what i wrote up tehre down
[12:56] <luke__> i386 ?
[12:56] <magnetron> luke__: are you using synaptic?
[12:56] <gonzoism> kamikaye  i mean when you were installing the driver
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> what is bluez-gnome
[12:57] <luke__> yeah
[12:57] <lokk> nux_usr: for the past few weeks my connection keeps timing out, etc. and sometimes it'll go from downloading at 115kb/s then just drops to 0 for a minute then goes back up to speed
[12:57] <luke__> magnatron yeah i am
[12:57] <nux_usr> lokk:  Wireless, I suspect?
[12:57] <gonzoism> who is peer and why does he keep resetting peoples connection ?
[12:57] <lokk> nux_usr: nope it's wired to a router
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: what did you search for in synaptic?.. bluez-gnome is there.
[12:58] <magnetron> IndyGunFreak: bluez-gnome is a helper to integrate the Bluetooth support with Gnome
[12:58] <kamikaye> yes
[12:58] <luke__> i searched bluez-gnome
[12:58] <kamikaye> when i was installing i got into the gui
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> magnetron: just found it.
[12:58] <luke__> cant find it
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: do a search just for bluez
[12:58] <kamikaye> i think there was no error
[12:58] <magnetron> luke__: try to do a search for name
[12:58] <gonzoism> kamikaye it should be ok if it is partially installed.
[12:58] <gonzoism> kamikaye you should be able to tell your X to just ignore  it
[12:58] <nux_usr> lokk: Hmm... odd.  Although I've seen switches go haywire and cause those types of problems, it's not too likely.
[12:58] <kamikaye> but i cant run control center
[12:58] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: its best to be brief, rather than specific in your searches when searching synaptic, just the first basic word will usually find it.
[12:58] <luke__> bluez ok
[12:59] <gonzoism> kamikaye  does X run for you ?
[12:59] <gonzoism> kamikaye  what is control center ?
[12:59] <kamikaye> well for example :  i cant run ati catalyst control center
[12:59] <johan> help
[12:59] <gonzoism> kamikaye yeah.  try installing the ati stuff using apt-get
[12:59] <spike_s> ok later, I'm sure.. y'all enjoy!
[12:59] <luke__> blues utils bluez pin bluez pcmcia support bluez gcidump bluez cups bluez btsco is all i can see
[01:00] <kamikaye> and i tried ati-driver.rn --uninstall and i got : Unrecognized flag : -uninstall
[01:00] <gonzoism> kamikaye check the forums for the instructions
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | johan
[01:00] <ubotu> johan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:00] <gonzoism> kamikaye   try -uninstall instead of --uninstall
[01:00] <kamikaye> so cant i uninstall the driver?
[01:00] <Paddy_EIRE> kamikaye, which card
[01:00] <nux_usr> lokk:  Maybe buggy firmware in your router.  Do you have the latest version from the manufacturer?
[01:00] <wedontneed> hi when i open yahoo games on mozilla mozilla closes why?
[01:00] <kamikaye> x1900xt
[01:00] <kamikaye> w8 i'll try :)
[01:01] <r_a_f> wedontneed:do you have flash installed?
[01:01] <magnetron> wedontneed: do you have flash installed? the nonfree version or gnash?
[01:01] <wedontneed> yes
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye you could if you knew how....  but i wouldn't worry about it.  just install it again and use it, and the bad one will either get replaced, or never be used/touched again.
[01:01] <kamikaye> well same : Unrecognized flag : --uninstall
[01:01] <Kubuntu> How do I install ndiswrapper?
[01:01] <wedontneed> flash installed
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye ah.
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye ^see up there
[01:01] <luke__> i cant find bluez-gnome
[01:01] <lokk> nux_usr: yes everything is up to date, and it seems to work fine when loading web pages just when you download pages, etc. that you notice it so i was thinking it might be the wire
[01:01] <kamikaye> k
[01:01] <gonzoism> kamikaye hey
[01:02] <lokk> download packages* not pages
[01:02] <magnetron> luke__: are you using the "search" button?
[01:02] <kamikaye> maybe i should reinstall ubuntu ?
[01:02] <wedontneed> r_a_f: flash installed
[01:02] <nux_usr> lokk:  Have you tried different ethernet cable(s)?
[01:02] <luke__> yeah and even if i update or"reload" the resportaries it still cant find
[01:03] <Kubuntu> How do I install ndis wrapper? Or the driver for dwl-g122
[01:03] <gonzoism> kamikaye go ahead and back up your xorg.conf if it is working for you right now.  sudo cp /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf /etc/Xorg/xorg.conf.backup.working  so in case you really screw things up all you have to do is copy it back, restart X and you are back up to how it is now.
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> !wireless | Kubuntu
[01:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:03] <lokk> nux_usr: no not yet, i just wanted to make sure there wasn't any network problems before i go and buy a new one
[01:04] <kamikaye> no thanks for you rhelp i'll install it again and see what'll happen
[01:04] <nux_usr> lokk:  Also, maybe it's just your Internet connection.  Rarely do providers give you a constant speed, especially for sustaind data transfers.
[01:04] <kamikaye> now*
[01:04] <luke__> magnatron yeah i am
[01:04] <gonzoism> kamikaye i wouldn't reinstall ubuntu.  at least not until you figure out how to get the video how you want it, figure it out, send yourself an email on how to do it, and then reinstall.  that way you don't do the same thing.  but really, a reinstall isn't neccessary
[01:04] <kamikaye> not now
[01:04] <Kubuntu> but they doesn't work
[01:04] <IndyGunFreak> wedontneed: i don't think its flash, as it seems the games use java, do you have java installed/
[01:04] <gonzoism> kamikaye  really, that driver being messed up or whatever, it won't hurt anything.
[01:04] <johan__> can anybody help me ?
[01:05] <kamikaye> yes okay
[01:05] <johan__> johan@johan-desktop:~/music$ ifconfig
[01:05] <lokk> nux_usr: alright thanks i'll probably go out and get a new cable and see how that works out
[01:05] <johan__> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:85:0B:0D:F6
[01:05] <johan__>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:05] <johan__>           RX packets:17902 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:05] <johan__>           TX packets:18693 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:05] <johan__>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:05] <kamikaye> now thanks a lot for ur help :)
[01:05] <johan__>           RX bytes:13288078 (12.6 MiB)  TX bytes:2509555 (2.3 MiB)
[01:05] <johan__>           Interrupt:20 Base address:0x6000
[01:05] <johan__> eth0:avah Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:85:0B:0D:F6
[01:05] <johan__>           inet addr:169.254.6.66  Bcast:169.254.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
[01:05] <johan__>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:05] <johan__>           Interrupt:20 Base address:0x6000
[01:05] <johan__> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[01:05] <johan__>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[01:05] <gonzoism> johan__ don't past that crap in here
[01:05] <johan__>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[01:05] <johan__>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[01:05] <johan__>           RX packets:570 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:05] <johan__>           TX packets:570 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:05] <Enverex> !ops
[01:05] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[01:05] <johan__>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[01:05] <johan__>           RX bytes:63805 (62.3 KiB)  TX bytes:63805 (62.3 KiB)
[01:05] <johan__> ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
[01:05] <nux_usr> johan:  Please don't paste in the channel.
[01:05] <johan__>           inet addr:124.114.167.100  P-t-P:124.114.164.1  Mask:255.255.255.255
[01:05] <Frogzoo> johan__: grrr..
[01:05] <kamikaye> cu^
[01:06] <gonzoism> johan__ don't past that crap in here, it will get you banned
[01:06] <kamikaye> i'll come back later if it doesnt work xD
[01:06] <luke__> how do i get bluez-gnome?!?!?!
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> nothing like somebody pasting in the channel.
[01:06] <wedontneed> IndyGunFreak: yeah but before i enter game it is closed (when i open room select page)
[01:06] <nux_usr> johan:  This is a busy channel.  Please use pastebin.
[01:06] <gonzoism> i'm gonna go to dallas.
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> wedontneed: i don't know, its working fine for me.
[01:06] <wedontneed> IndyGunFreak: ty
[01:07] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: did you search synaptic?
[01:07] <luke__> yeah i did nothing with gnome came up i can send u a screen shot
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: that doesn't make any sense, did you search for it in synaptic?
[01:08] <luke__> i searched it thats a screenshot of the search
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | johan__
[01:08] <ubotu> johan__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:08] <gonzoism> johan__ don't paste stuff in here.  bad manners.
[01:09] <realo> hello?
[01:09] <luke__> can you help me indygunfreak?
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: i'm thinking.
[01:09] <gonzoism> johan  you can /msg it to me if your want.
[01:09] <luke__> kk
[01:10] <gonzoism> meh.
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: open synaptic, settings menu, then Repositories, then click on the THird Party Software tab.. what boxes are checked there?
[01:11] <realo> hello...  my s2ram suspend is broken since yesterday's kernel update.  anybody familiar with this problem?
[01:11] <luke__> hold on
[01:11] <mrynit> what does mkdir ~/.foo do? i cant see foo when i ls
[01:11] <noiesmo> mrynit, hidden folder ls -al
[01:12] <mrynit>  /. makes hiden then
[01:12] <noiesmo> mrynit, the dot does
[01:13] <noiesmo> mrynit, the ~/ donates current usrs home folder
[01:14] <realo> hello?  anybody familiar with ubuntu on laptops?
[01:14] <mrynit> why do i have 470 hidden floders in my home directory?
[01:14] <luke__> indygunfreak it dont have third party software tab
[01:15] <noiesmo> mrynit, a lot of apps and desktop manager stores files there
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> luke__:  hm, ok what is checked on the first tab
[01:15] <mrynit> nothing to be worried about then
[01:15] <Frogzoo> mrynit: ls -a
[01:15] <noiesmo> mrynit, nah
[01:15] <Frogzoo> mrynit: 470 is outlandish
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: wait a sec, you don't have a third party software tab?
[01:16] <Monteh> ello
[01:16] <mrynit> $ ls -al total 472 but it shows only around 30
[01:17] <Monteh> can anyone see me? lol i dunno if i regged properly
[01:17] <luke__> no i dont indygunfreak
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: well, that doesn't make any sense
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> regardless, whats checked on the first tab
[01:18] <noiesmo> mrynit, thinks 472 is prob just size in bytes
[01:18] <mrynit> k. how do i remove hidden folders?
[01:18] <nux_usr> Monteh:  You're seen.  :-)
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> i just did my third kernel update today.
[01:20] <Monteh> thanks nux_usr lol
[01:21] <realo> hello?  anybody familiar with ubuntu on laptops?
[01:21] <magnetron> mrynit: ctrl+h will make your hidden folders show
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> realo: kinda..
[01:21] <nux_usr> Monteh:  welcome
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> it shouldn't be much different from a PC
[01:21] <mrynit> magnetron, i was hoping to do it thru terminal
[01:21] <realo> ah! my s2ram suspend is broken since yesterday's kernel update.
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> s2ram?
[01:21] <squ1> something's wrong with my ppp connection...
[01:22] <magnetron> mrynit: ls -a
[01:22] <squ1> can i ask for that ?
[01:22] <WorldDomination> hey whats the best torrent client for ubuntu
[01:22] <realo> IndyGunFreak: yes, from uswsusp
[01:22] <Monteh> ok, ive been trying to install official disks, downloaded dvds, alternate install discs (all md5 checked), it all boots to the relevant menu, but wont go any further then that, ive tried noapic, nolapic, and irqpoll as flags, i really want this to install :( (centos installs flawlessly, so not sure whats going on there) can anyone help me :(
[01:22] <magnetron> !ask squ1
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask squ1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <WorldDomination> and best musicplayer ?
[01:22] <magnetron> !ask | squ1
[01:22] <ubotu> squ1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <squ1> ok
[01:22] <mrynit> magnetron, doesnt that just list all the folders
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> luke__: did you get lost?
[01:22] <squ1> when i connect to internet ,there're two ppp interfaces there.
[01:23] <realo> IndyGunFreak: yes, from uswsusp
[01:23] <magnetron> WorldDomination: many like rtorrent. exaile is good have i heard
[01:23] <squ1> ppp0 and ppp1 ,etc.
[01:23] <magnetron> mrynit: try it
[01:23] <WorldDomination> rtorrent ok
[01:23] <carajea1> Hey guys im have a little small itsy bitsy problem with ubuntu right now. For some reason it says my sound device is busy when i use amarok to play music while a play lord of the rings online. I dont remember it having a problem before but... is there a way to get around this so I can play multiple sound?????
[01:23] <WorldDomination> thanks
[01:23] <mrynit> i did but it just shows me the folders. i cant rm any that are shown
[01:23] <WorldDomination> and as music player what would you recommend ?
[01:24] <realo> I normally do <s2ram -f< to suspend my laptop . It works.  Since yesterday, it does not recover anymore.
[01:24] <magnetron> carajea1: yes, you need to use a tool called aoss (alsa-oss)
[01:24] <noiesmo> mrynit, rm -rf foldername
[01:24] <Gerro> there anything I can uncomment in # network protocols in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases that would boost performance for a user on normal ipv4 network?
[01:24] <realo> 's2ram -f'
[01:24] <carajea1> hmm please im new at this where would i get this app?? just apt get or what.
[01:25] <carajea1> or tool i should say
[01:25] <magnetron> WorldDomination: many like exaile, or beep media player. i prefere rhythmbox
[01:25] <magnetron> carajea1: use synaptic
[01:25] <carajea1> ok thanks a heap mag
[01:26] <carajea1> wait fiesty doesnt have synaptic
[01:26] <carajea1> it has that add/remove thingy
[01:26] <elkbuntu> carajea1, yes it does, but it is under system>administration
[01:26] <magnetron> carajea1: it has both. synaptic is in the system menu
[01:26] <carajea1> oohhh ok gotcha
[01:27] <squ1> when i get connection to the internet, there're 2 pppoe interfaces there.
[01:27] <WorldDomination> thanks a lot
[01:28] <squ1> can anybody point out that for me ?
[01:28] <carajea1> ok according to syn. its installed is there anything further on my end i have to do??
[01:28] <cassio> hello everybody
[01:28] <magnetron> carajea1: yes, you have to start the games with "aoss game-name"
[01:29] <|mix|> hi
[01:29] <cassio> does anyone know any program to recover deleted files?
[01:29] <magnetron> carajea1: you may have to edit your launchers/shortcuts
[01:29] <cassio> i' ve found "recover"
[01:29] <cassio> but it works only for ext3
[01:30] <carajea1> ummm.... i have to run lotro with a script to get it to play
[01:30] <carajea1> this game was very difficult to get going so the users on the ubuntu forums have come up with a script to get it running
[01:30] <UbuntuFeisty_> ol
[01:31] <magnetron> carajea1: you may have to edit that script then
[01:31] <magnetron> hellp UbuntuFeisty_
[01:31] <carajea1> maybe if i start my music first then start lotro then it will work cause i play with the sound off on the game i dont need to hear anything
[01:31] <magnetron> hello* UbuntuFeisty_
[01:31] <Frogzoo> squ1: usually you would only have one ppp connection, did one ppp session die?
[01:31] <wedontneed> when i open yahoo games i take this error from mozilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844/   pls help
[01:32] <Monteh> ok, ive been trying to install official disks, downloaded dvds, alternate install discs (all md5 checked), it all boots to the relevant menu, but wont go any further then that, ive tried noapic, nolapic, and irqpoll as flags, i really want this to install :( (centos installs flawlessly, so not sure whats going on there) can anyone help me :( <---- update, ive tried removing all unecessary usb devices, and resetting my bios also. still wont boot
[01:32] <UbuntuFeisty_> I am not speak english, sorry.
[01:32] <magnetron> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:32] <magnetron> !pt
[01:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:32] <Psypher> hey everyone! i got a problem with trying to do a network install of ubuntu studio. even though i have followed all instuctions so that the install happens from an iso image mounted on another machine the network install wants to pull all the packages from the net. no broadband, no way!! please help!
[01:32] <UbuntuFeisty_> Obrigado
[01:33] <squ1> actually sometimes there's one the ,and other times there're two
[01:33] <ghata1> Hi, my sound has vanished all of a sudden, audio players report that audio plugin do not work. same with every other application. What has gone wrong ?
[01:34] <WorldDomination> hm cant find elaile or rtorrent in my "available software" list
[01:34] <wedontneed>  when i open yahoo games i take this error from mozilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844/   pls help
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: has ALL your sound vanished, or can you just not play certain files, like MP3s, etc?
[01:35] <carajea1> it seems starting the music first then the game works
[01:35] <gcardinal> sorry for newby quastion, but is there a place where I can find complete manual on how to install LAMP with SQUAD/APC/Zend Optimize ?.. From a trustfull up to date source. I have found many on google, but they all kind of different and I am not sure wich on to trust
[01:35] <carajea1> so im gonna post up on the forums about this aoss thing and see if someone can edit the script to include it
[01:35] <magnetron> !lamp | gcardinal
[01:35] <ubotu> gcardinal: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:35] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: all of it is gone
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> is it muted?
[01:36] <gcardinal> I need also to install APC SQUAD and Zend Optimize...
[01:36] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: no it is not, when i try to slide volume silder up, it slides back to 0
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> e GAIM, I'll remove my ubuntu-desktop
[01:37] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I have looked through syslog, dmesg, and messages etc and nothing is shown there on why this happened
[01:37] <magnetron> gcardinal: i haven't heard of them. do they provide instructions? they should be accurate
[01:38] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: right click your sound icon, and choose preferences, what is in that pull down menu?
[01:38] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: how do I verify that drivers are loaded etc, I have intel chip on board
[01:38] <gcardinal> yeah...
[01:38] <gcardinal> :/
[01:38] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: nothing, it is empty, there is just a file menu and that is it
[01:40] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: it would appear your sound isn't configured properly, ope a terminal, and type lspci after you hit enter, see if you get a line similar to this..   02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12), if so, PASTE ONLY that line.. don't paste the whole output
[01:40] <ramanK> what's your idea? "What's the biggest advantage of ubuntu?"
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> to many to list,
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> not just ubuntu, but Linux in general.
[01:42] <Psypher> anybody got any ideas on why my network install want to download the packages from the net instead of the iso file mounted with tftp??
[01:42] <psst> ramanK: ease-of-use
[01:43] <Psypher> in my book the biggest advantage is apt-get and the MASSIVE repo ubuntu has
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: well, some distros, you can setup with Ubuntu repos, and its still a different distro(Linux Mint, for example)
[01:44] <kamikaye> well im back -.-''
[01:44] <ramanK> too nice !
[01:44] <kamikaye> i got a problem again
[01:44] <kwijibo> what's the console command that prints out distro name and version information?
[01:44] <roryy> kwijibo: lsb_release -a
[01:44] <psst> ramanK: I wouldn't list that as an advantage of ubuntu because I use apt-get on other linux distros and on Windows and MacOS
[01:44] <kwijibo> thanks
[01:44] <qaws> Hi, is any development tools for C++ and C# available in Ubuntu? I don't want only compiler, I want enviroment (something like Visual C# from Microsoft).
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: did you get lost?
[01:45] <Enverex> psst, ... sorry what, how the hell do you use Apt-Get on Windows?
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> Enverex: ?.. i dont think you can
[01:45] <Enverex> IndyGunFreak, Well obviously
[01:45] <Enverex> "<psst> ramanK: I wouldn't list that as an advantage of ubuntu because I use apt-get on other linux distros and on Windows and MacOS"
[01:45] <psst> Enverex: actually it's cyg-apt, but it's the same deal
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> Enverex: who suggested you could?
[01:45] <kamikaye> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide  i followed this guide and there is written that i need to make sure that  universe and multivers is enabeld how can i do this with 7.04??
[01:46] <magnetron> psst did, IndyGunFreak
[01:46] <roryy> qaws: you can try anjuta or kdevelop for c/c++; not sure about c#
[01:46] <Enverex> psst, Right, so your entire windows install is managed through a repo as are all the apps installed in it?
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> Enverex: oh i see... well, apt-get is an advantage of debian distros period, not just ubuntu.
[01:46] <kamikaye> can someone help?
[01:46] <roryy> qaws: perhaps monodevelop for c#
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: we aren't mind readers, state your question
[01:46] <magnetron> kamikaye: system > administration > repositories
[01:46] <wedontneed> when i open yahoo games i take this error from mozilla http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24844/   pls help
[01:46] <Psypher> IndyGunFreak: i followed instructions on many sites regarding network installs. they all say, setup dhcp, tftpd mount the iso you want to install, boot pxes and install. BTW the is ubuntu studio. all of that works till it coms to install packages, then it starts downloading
[01:47] <psst> Enverex: no - just some of it.  I write software.  No machine I use a lot is ever going to have ALL of its software managed by one package management system
[01:47] <kbrooks> psst, uh, why?
[01:47] <qaws> rorry: thank, i will try - it is in Add/Remove programs, or I must download it somewhere else?
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: what are you talking about?
[01:47] <kamikaye> you mean software sources?
[01:48] <qaws> yes
[01:48] <magnetron> kamikaye: yes, i don't have the english ubuntu
[01:48] <wyk> ubuntu-fr
[01:48] <unimatrix9> would you say that LPI is outdated, in terms of that its not up to date with the newest developments and ubuntu?
[01:48] <unimatrix9> what do you here think?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: or you could just sudo apt-get update
[01:48] <kbrooks> unimatrix9, LPI?
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> if you've added the repo.
[01:48] <unimatrix9> yes LPI
[01:48] <kamikaye> is that all?
[01:49] <squ1> can any body tell me what's wrong with my internet connection ?
[01:49] <kamikaye> just sudo apt get update and i got those multiverse and universe things?
[01:49] <Psypher> i'm trying to do a network install of ubuntu studio ie not with a cd, but with the iso mounted on another machines using pxes
[01:49] <unimatrix9> linux professional institute certified ...
[01:49] <kbrooks> unimatrix9, when i put "<X>?", i usually mean "what's <X>?" :-)
[01:49] <psst> kbrooks: well - if I build a new piece of software on my machine it isn't installed by a package management system
[01:49] <unimatrix9> see above
[01:49] <unimatrix9> :P
[01:49] <kamikaye> indy?
[01:49] <kbrooks> unimatrix9, and i don't know -
[01:49] <squ1> sometimes when i got connection to internet ,there were 2 pppoe interfaces there.
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: if you added them yes...
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> read the instructions on that site, they are quite clear
[01:50] <kamikaye> i dont think i did so ... sry that im a total noob
[01:50] <unimatrix9> LPI is the standard you must have for working in the IT field , its an certificate to show your knowledge of linux
[01:50] <psst> kbrooks: secondly, if I download a tarball from an overnight build system, that hasn't been installed by a package management system either
[01:51] <unimatrix9> would you say that LPI is outdated, in terms of that its not up to date with the newest developments and ubuntu?
[01:51] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: sorry mate, I had to go down to get mail, here is the line you requested
[01:51] <ghata1> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: hang on a sec.
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[01:51] <dank> SORRY , I FIRST USE IRC ,I'M NOT English speaking country which channel can i go
[01:51] <kamikaye> ubuntu
[01:51] <Cebrax> Hello all
[01:52] <unimatrix9> dank what lang do you speak?
[01:52] <dank> chinese
[01:52] <kamikaye> nice xD
[01:52] <kbrooks> !chinese
[01:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:52] <kbrooks> !cn
[01:52] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> Open Synaptic, click Settings/Repositories, on the first tab, make sure proprietary drivers is checked, if it isnt, check it, and reload synaptic, then continue to follow the instructions on that page
[01:52] <kbrooks> dank:
[01:52] <squ1> !cn
[01:52] <dank> what's wrong?
[01:53] <rbanffy> Hi All. Are there any tricks to use APT::Default-Release in Ubuntu? I tried, but it appears to fail - it wants to install stuff from Gusty even while APT::Default-Release points to Feisty
[01:53] <kbrooks> !cn | dank
[01:53] <ubotu> dank: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[01:53] <dank> okay
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: are you using feisty?
[01:53] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: Yeps
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: was i helping you last night?
[01:54] <dank> ubotu ; there's some words i can't read let's dictionary lookup
[01:54] <kamikaye> hm
[01:54] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: not that I remeber
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> cuz i helped someone with this exact issue last night, do you have an acer travelmate?
[01:55] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: No, I have a Dell E520
[01:55] <kamikaye> im confused theres nothing with a driver
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[01:55] <Psypher> IndyGunFreak: u understand what i mean?
[01:55] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: What do you recon is the issue ?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: well, a couple sites on that acer travelmate, nobody got it working.
[01:56] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I C
[01:56] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I am sure a reboot is going to fix this, but I am curious to know why the audio went away.
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: i don't even know what you're talking about... so by proxy, no i dont' know what you mean
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: then freakin reboot
[01:57] <alexander> ,
[01:57] <Psypher> have you never done a network install, like a deployemtn over lan
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> no
[01:57] <Psypher> have you install ubuntu studio?
[01:57] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit", System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[01:57] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: hehe cant, I am doing some remote stuff at my work place :)
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Psypher: no
[01:57] <Rix> 0.0
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> well, good luck
[01:57] <logixoul> Hi there. I have this line in fstab: "UUID=blahblah swap swap sw 0 0", but swap does _not_ get mounted at boot so I need to manually do sudo swapon /dev/hda3 to get it to work. How do I fix this?
[01:57] <Psypher> ok, thanks
[01:58] <kamikaye> i got the german ubuntu sry :) .. so what cross do i need to make there?  http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfotook9.png  treiber is the german for driver but there's just nothing with a driver
[01:59] <psst> kbrooks: also, eclipse provides its own package management system, as does sametime, and java has webstart
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: well, i dnt know german, so i don't know what it means
[01:59] <psst> kbrooks: finally, I have several development utilities which I use via a system I wrote
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: that looks completely different from my rep-mgr...
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> so good luck
[02:00] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:00] <psst> kbrooks: so it's all far too entangled to unweave and migrate everything to apt
[02:01] <dchagwood> Does anyone here have a home network between a Mac and Ubuntu?
[02:01] <finalbeta> Cebrax: are you using suns java?
[02:01] <finalbeta> If not, use suns java
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: but i dont think that would explain the problem with gedit
[02:01] <Cebrax> finalbeta: how can I understand if i am using suns java
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: have you tried Ktorrent, for a Torrent client?
[02:02] <finalbeta> Cebrax: I gues syou could see where the symlink /usr/bin/java links 2
[02:02] <DudeManJer> I need assistance in terminal. Whenever I enter the password after typing in su - it always say my password is wrong even though I know it.
[02:02] <Okan> hi
[02:02] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: I'm considering the gedit an unrelated issue
[02:03] <dchagwood> Is anyone here good with home networking?
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: yeah, probably, i was just gonna suggest mousepad.
[02:03] <Okan>  dflmdlfmlsdf
[02:03] <Okan>  dflmdlfmlsdfdsfsdfsfsdf
[02:03] <Okan>  dflmdlfmlsdfdsfsdfsfsdfsdfsfsdfsdfsdf
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> Okan: ?
[02:03] <Okan> :D
[02:03] <Okan> I am turkey
[02:03] <Okan> :D
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> don't be ignorant... it'll get you ooted
[02:03] <Stewie_> dchagwood, I am new to Ubuntu, only seen Linux for the first time today but with Windows I am good
[02:03] <finalbeta> dchagwood: I don't have a mac in my home network. The mac should be able to access the samba shares you make, and you can share files the same way in mac
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> booted
[02:04] <Okan> D:D
[02:04] <Cebrax> finalbeta: yes i think, here is what it links to : /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java ...
[02:04] <qaws> I use anjuta and it still writes error: no executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command         - where should I use it?
[02:04] <Cebrax> Okan: Ltfen kanal kirletme
[02:04] <DudeManJer> How do I fix the root password in terminal with su command?
[02:04] <finalbeta> Cebrax: that's weird, start azureus from the terminal. Does it give any errors
[02:04] <finalbeta> ?
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> fix it?... whats wrong with it.
[02:05] <dchagwood> I've tried different things.  I've tried SAMBA and Apple Talk with Netatalk.  I don't know how to activate the Netatalk.
[02:05] <Okan> Cebrax trkmsn
[02:05] <Okan> ?
[02:05] <finalbeta> DudeManJer: there is no su in ubuntu, root is not used. Use sudo -i to get a root shell
[02:05] <dchagwood> The Mac sees the Linux machine but can't connect.
[02:05] <Okan> mIRC Script'imiz Yenilenmitir. Trke mIRC 6.2 [iStannbuL Script]  Artk Sizlere Sunulmutur indirmek iin link'imize Tklamanz Yeterlidir ->  www.canimsin.net/mirc.exe  www.iStannbuL.Com - [ By mR ] 
[02:05] <finalbeta> dchagwood: can't connect how. Connect to what?
[02:06] <qaws> I use anjuta and it still writes error: no executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command         - where should I use it?
[02:06] <dchagwood> I can, however connect the linux machine to the mac.
[02:06] <DudeManJer> Alright.
[02:06] <Cebrax> finalbeta: I've tried that too, it hangs just like "sudo gedit" command do.
[02:06] <DudeManJer> Thank you final beta.. I was gonna download java
[02:06] <elkbuntu> !tr > Okan, please see the PM from Ubotu
[02:06] <dchagwood> I can connect the Linux machine to share the Mac HD.
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: regarding gedit, have you tried another text editor, like mousepad?
[02:06] <Okan> mIRC Script'imiz Yenilenmitir. Trke mIRC 6.2 [iStannbuL Script]  Artk Sizlere Sunulmutur indirmek iin link'imize Tklamanz Yeterlidir ->  www.canimsin.net/mirc.exe  www.iStannbuL.Com - [ By mR ] 
[02:06] <elkbuntu> !tr > Okan | please see the PM from Ubotu
[02:07] <finalbeta> Cebrax: so there is no output on the terminal?
[02:07] <dchagwood> I can't connect to the designated share folder from the Mac, though.
[02:07] <boyet> m mesenger is best for feisty
[02:07] <finalbeta> Cebrax: can't help you then, try the forums.
[02:07] <Cebrax> finalbeta: yes, besides it hangs
[02:07] <dchagwood> It just appears but can't connect.
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: hve you tried any other torrent clients w/ success
[02:07] <Cebrax> finalbeta: will it be bad to post my question here again?
[02:07] <finalbeta> Cebrax: no
[02:08] <Okan> mIRC Script'imiz Yenilenmitir. Trke mIRC 6.2 [iStannbuL Script]  Artk Sizlere Sunulmutur indirmek iin link'imize Tklamanz Yeterlidir ->  www.canimsin.net/mirc.exe  www.iStannbuL.Com - [ By mR ] 
[02:08] <Cebrax> IndyGunFreak: I think it is not a problem with auzerus..
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> he's spamming the channel
[02:08] <Cebrax> Okan: olum k lan u kanaldan
[02:08] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i install nx server on my xubntu?
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: well, what makes you think that?
[02:09] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:09] <Cebrax> IndyGunFreak: here is what makes me think.. lots of apps doesn't start :(
[02:09] <finalbeta> Cebrax: are you using the azureus from the repositories? If so, try the one from the sourceforge site, and visa versa
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> Cebrax: i don't know, what version of Ubuntu are you using
[02:09] <qaws> I use anjuta and it still writes error: no executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command         - where should I use it?
[02:10] <Cebrax> IndyGunFreak: 7.04
[02:10] <finalbeta> dchagwood: I see there are some bugreports on launchpad about browsing shares from a MAC. Perhaps you can search through them.
[02:11] <finalbeta> !launchpad
[02:11] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:11] <dchagwood> Actually, right now my mac will flash the network folders then they disappear.  Setting up a network on my mac is easy, but I'm new to Linux.
[02:11] <dchagwood> Okay.  What's the address?
[02:11] <finalbeta> !launchpad
[02:11] <gnomefreak> https://launchpad.net/
[02:11] <boyet> where can we find an application with free sms sending
[02:12] <dchagwood> Okay.  Sorry.  I'm new to IRC as well.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ also
[02:12] <finalbeta> Sharing folders from gnome is pretty bad. It's the crippled gnome way of doing it again.
[02:12] <kbrooks> ping
[02:13] <dchagwood> Well I'm trying to work with Gnome or KDE.  I like more things about KDE than Gnome.
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> dchagwood: KDE is just to slow.
[02:14] <finalbeta> dchagwood: things look kind off grip for browsing samba shares from mac. Not sure if it's a mac issue or ubuntu, but since ubuntu uses samba it's probably ubuntu's problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6364
[02:15] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:15] <dchagwood> Don't get me wrong.  I thing Gnome is awesome it just looks like I can do more with KDE unless there is more to Gnome than I see.
[02:15] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: I'm a gnome user, but I find my gnome menu's to be way slower then the KDE ones and lack configuration. I don't think kde is still slower. Though it was.
[02:15] <WeeJeWel> Is there any way i can run .scr screensavers in linux?
[02:15] <IndyGunFreak> dchagwood: its 6 on one, half dozen on the other, you can do anything under Gnome, that you can kDE.
[02:16] <finalbeta> No you can't...
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: i guess its all personal experience, i think KDE moves at a snails pace compared to gnomel
[02:16] <WeeJeWel> where are the screensavers located anyway?
[02:16] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: well, maybe not *anything*, but anything relevant.
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> to me anyways
[02:17] <dchagwood> You know I did see that I was able to run many KDE specific apps in Gnome.
[02:17] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: that's weird. The reason I stay at gnome is because I hate how kde looks. Yet kde moves much faster. Media players, the whole platform is moving at light speed with kde4
[02:17] <kamikaye> i got another question
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: well, i think KDE is an eyesore also,
[02:17] <IndyGunFreak> but i also find it slower than gnome, a lot slower
[02:17] <kamikaye> does someone know how i can update eclipse?? i always get this  Visual Editor (1.2.1.v20060817_M-zXJUB0fxM-0vSdc) requires feature "org.eclipse.emf (2.2.0)", or compatible.
[02:17] <finalbeta> IndyGunFreak: yep, I'm hoping 4 fixes that. If so, many will convert.
[02:18] <thomax> hi y'all
[02:18] <thomax> anyone got an idea what tools to use to backup encrypted dvd's?
[02:18] <thomax> !dvd
[02:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: yeah, probably.... i guess thats the freedom of choice.
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> finalbeta: i really like Xfce also.
[02:18] <Psypher> also dvdbackup does an excelent job of ripping from dvd to hdd and decrypting
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> its a racecar vs. a pinto compared to the other two.
[02:19] <daedra> pinto
[02:19] <daedra> lol
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[02:20] <WeeJeWel> !lilo
[02:20] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, sound in xchat gnome is not workin fors ome reason
[02:21] <daedra> heard about the multiplatform openoffice virus?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: no,
[02:21] <daedra> it uses xchat/mIRC to spread itself
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: lol.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> what type of damage does it do?
[02:22] <daedra> its a proof-of-concept virus
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> daedra: i see... and the concept is?..
[02:22] <daedra> which just spreads, so as to show that its coded to work on MacOSX, Linux and Windows
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> awesome, i hope i get it..lol
[02:23] <Cebrax> daedra: it is not a place to talk about them
[02:23] <MattJ> Hi all. I installed a custom version of a package from source, using checkinstall. Now the update notifier keeps telling me it needs updating to the latest Feisty version. Is there a way to stop this?
[02:23] <kbrooks> Cebrax, oh really
[02:23] <daedra> come to ubuntu-offtopic
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> MattJ: why not just upgrade to feisty?
[02:25] <MattJ> I'm using Feisty
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, well, just do the update.
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> i don't know.
[02:25] <scarvell> anyone here good with PHP?
[02:25] <MattJ> No, that would overwrite my package, read what I wrote :)
[02:25] <scarvell> im having a php server problem i need a hand with
[02:25] <daedra> <? no ?>
[02:26] <Cebrax> MattJ: what happens when you click on Check button
[02:26] <MattJ> Cebrax: It keeps telling me that I should update to the version in the Feisty reps
[02:26] <scarvell> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2810720#post2810720
[02:26] <Cebrax> MattJ:  pff :( that's awful .. sorry I cannot help :(
[02:26] <MattJ> :(
[02:27] <Duff> HELP!!PLZ!!
[02:27] <Duff> ive got grub 17 problem
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> Duff: google Grub 17
[02:27] <Duff> formated the HD and I cna't run any of the bot CDs
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> bot cds?
[02:27] <Duff> boot CDs
[02:27] <scarvell> Duff, change your BIOS settings to boot from CD?
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> yup
[02:28] <Duff> have done so it wont work, formated all 3 HD and still get grub 17 error
[02:28] <scarvell> ...
[02:28] <cBau> never even heard that one before
[02:28] <scarvell> as i said
[02:28] <scarvell> change your boot options
[02:28] <kraft21> HI all ! It the first time i try Linux and ubuntu and so far everything is ok(with some googling).But i have one problem i cannot solve.I m connecting to the internet with a wireless card and while i can surf and download with max speed,i cannot use torrents.Everytime it starts to download and then i loose my connection.Any tips? I already tried sudo ethtool -k wlan0 but nothing... :(
[02:28] <scarvell> its booting from hard drive first
[02:29] <ubuntu_> i need help
[02:29] <scarvell> kraft21, move closer to your LAN?
[02:29] <scarvell> * WAN
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> kraft21: what torrent client?
[02:29] <scarvell> blah
[02:29] <scarvell> router?
[02:29] <scarvell> wifi
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> someone else was having that problem last night.
[02:29] <scarvell> thats the word im looking for
[02:29] <ubuntu_> i need help i wanna get shockwave player how do I
[02:29] <varka> Duff: Be sure to check your root(x,y) settings in your grub.conf.
[02:29] <johnnytang24> wtf.  My power went out and now when I reboot, ubuntu hangs right after Running /scripts/init-bottom. done.
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> !shockwave
[02:29] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:29] <kraft21> i have tried lot of clients. I dont have any problem with xp
[02:29] <Duff> how do I get Grub 17 error to stop showing so I cna load windows, heck I wouldn't mind if it let me load ubuntu again
[02:30] <r_a_f> kraft21:try ktorrent
[02:30] <r_a_f> ahh
[02:30] <scarvell> r_a_f, kde ftw
[02:30] <kraft21> also the problem is that torrents kill my connection
[02:30] <johnnytang24> scarvell : are you allowing mail forwarding from your mail server?
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> thats what i would do, ktorrent is the best torrent client
[02:30] <kraft21> i already tried ktorrent
[02:30] <scarvell> johnny_, its just installed. I dont know what to change to enable mail forwarding
[02:30] <r_a_f> scarvell: ;) but its working
[02:30] <scarvell> * johnnytang24
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> kraft21: have you configured your firewall?
[02:30] <johnnytang24> scarvell : what mail server did you install?
[02:31] <kraft21> yeap ports are open
[02:31] <scarvell> i installed sendmail
[02:31] <johnnytang24> scarvell : you have to enable relaying from your local ip
[02:31] <scarvell> and just installed postfix
[02:31] <[agatha] > morning here :D
[02:31] <scarvell> neither work
[02:31] <Duff> please help me out I need to install either OS on my comp but after reformating nothing is happening still got grub 17
[02:31] <scarvell> johnnytang24, how in the heck do i do that?
[02:31] <borg7_> I have a LTSP setup w/ 2 NIC's but I want an XP machine to get DHCP from the LTSP server... how can I make the XP machine connect to the internet?
[02:32] <Duff> i can't change to MRB tcause i dont know how to do so
[02:32] <johnnytang24> scarvell : try using the sendmail command from the command line
[02:32] <Plantain> Hey all, I've got a box that I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows, (currently completely blank). Which should I install first, Windows or Ubuntu?
[02:32] <jpotex> Ive heard that ATI has released a new driver for linux. Do any of you know if it works with 7.04?
[02:32] <cBau> Duff: Your BIOS option is after GRUB?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : lol, you sure don't sleep long
[02:32] <scarvell> johnnytang24, syntax?
[02:32] <scarvell> sendmail [...] 
[02:32] <[agatha] > hahah IndyGunFreak  like 10h or so :P
[02:32] <johnnytang24> scarvell : don't remember
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> brb
 so what do i ahve to change in the BIOS to stop grubing from giving an error it stops any of the OS i ahve from loading
[02:33] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?
[02:33] <borg7_> Plantain - Windows then Ubuntu
[02:33] <cBau> If you change it to boot to CD first, it should read the CD before it ever goes to GRUB
[02:33] <Tom47> Plantain maybe you should consider installing windows inside vm in ubuntu that way you can switch to windows without rebooting though 3D is not available if you go that way
[02:34] <kraft21> and the strange is that when i try to download a torrent,i have to reconnect to the router because it kills my connection.I read that some had the same problem and that it was bug of tso(tcp segmentation offload).
 have done so it still picks up GRUB
[02:34] <cBau> Duff: very odd...
[02:35] <cBau> How about....
  I know its weird but that is what it does and my CDs dont get picked for boting, erased the main HD 3 times with no result
[02:35] <cBau> disconnect your hard drive, start up with only CD
[02:35] <cBau> just a guess
[02:35] <finalbeta> Duff: for some strange reason ubuntu set up grub wrong then. boot from the live cd, and manually set up grub.
[02:35] <cBau> I've never tried it
[02:35] <borg7_> or use super grub disi
[02:35] <borg7_> disk*
[02:35] <cBau> there's an idea, prolly better than mine
[02:36] <scarvell> fuckiing linux
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:36] <scarvell> its a total bitch
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> !ohmy
[02:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <scarvell> i love it
[02:36] <IdleOne> !language | scarvell
[02:36] <ubotu> scarvell: please see above
[02:36] <scarvell> bleh
 & <borg7_> prdon what should i do this is messed I need the comp to be working
[02:36] <cBau> for shame :)
[02:36] <scarvell> IndyGunFreak, since when is ii a real word?
[02:36] <scarvell> ;)
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> ii?
[02:36] <WeeJeWel> can i replace a screensaver with a command that should be executed instead of the screensaver?
[02:36] <scarvell> fuck ii ng
[02:36] <scarvell> ;)
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> geez.
[02:37] <scarvell> well
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> byebye
[02:37] <scarvell> heh
[02:37] <Plantain> Tom47: I'd considered that, but I figure I'll be for more likely to run 3D under windows than 3D under linux
[02:37] <scarvell> thats not fair :P
[02:37] <ompaul> no - mind how you step
[02:37] <scarvell> you asked >_<'
[02:37] <cBau> Duff: If I were to get all crazy, I'd grab a spare HDD
[02:37] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:37] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:37] <cBau> Duff: And try to see if it will boot from CD then
[02:37] <lerio> lp y cant i see usplash during boot-up
[02:38] <ompaul> !u
[02:38] <Tom47> Plantain Ok .... personally then i would install windows first as linux is more otheros aware
[02:38] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[02:38] <Pelo> WeeJeWel, the ansswer to your questions is probably yes,  most stuff can be done command line in linux, what command is an other question altogether
[02:38] <Plantain> Tom47: Gotcha.
[02:38] <Duff>  <cBau> pardon I have no clue what youre telling me to do
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: i couldn't agree with you more
[02:38] <cBau> Duff: Are you running a laptop or desktop?
[02:38] <Plantain> Should I partition first, or let Ubuntu's partioner do it later?
[02:38] <WeeJeWel> Pelo, it's wine /blabla /S
[02:39] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, well my toleration for edge cases is low :-/
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> lol, mine to.
[02:39] <ompaul> !nickspam  > Toolskyn (please check the message from the bot)
[02:39] <finalbeta> Then you shouldn't be on IRC.
[02:39] <cBau> Duff: Just thinking.... grab another and test your boot process to see if it's the specific HDD that's giving you a problem. Or, throw that problem HDD in another computer and scrub it good then try again
[02:40] <nzhomie> how to get tcl to work with amsn
[02:40] <nzhomie> please help me ?
[02:40] <Tom47> plantain be realistic and at the same time dont give excessive hard doisk space to windows ... this consideration you need to work out in the light of yr expected use of it just remember you can share partitions between linux and windows
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> !tcl
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <IdleOne> !INFO TCL
[02:41] <ubotu> Package tcl does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> whas tcl?
[02:41] <nzhomie> tls
[02:41] <ompaul> tkx8.3
[02:41] <roryy> !info tcl8.4
[02:41] <ubotu> tcl8.4: Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.4 - run-time files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.4.14-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1136 kB, installed size 3192 kB
[02:41] <IdleOne> nzhomie, do apt-cache search tcl
[02:41] <Cebrax> I installed azureus and when click App->Internet->Azureus it hangs 5 mins. After 5 mins i can see it loading . http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/az/2.png . But after load, it suddenly closes itself. In addition to that; "sudo gedit" doesn't work, it waits 10 mins before opening gedit .. System->..-> Users & Groups also doesnt load properly , I see that : http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8232/usersandgroupscx4.png ,and it hangs..
[02:42] <Plantain> Tom47: I've got a 40GB internal which I'll split evenly, then 320GB of storage
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> Plantain: why not just put windows on the 320, then Linux on the 40?
[02:42] <nzhomie> what am i looking for in the output in the terminal
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> thats how i learned linux, for a couple years
[02:43] <yellow_chicken> how to find the owner or country location of a given ip address?
[02:43] <kamikaye> im back
[02:43] <kamikaye> i solved the driver problem
[02:43] <orbisvicis> are the ide cdrom drives hda & hdb linked together ?
[02:43] <cBau> wewt
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> yippeeee
[02:43] <kamikaye> but now the catalyst control center doesnt start
[02:43] <nzhomie> ???
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:43] <cBau> stupid ATI
[02:43] <kamikaye> -.-''
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> ati sucks.
[02:43] <kamikaye> hell yeah
[02:43] <Tom47> Plantain hard disk is not an issue for you then :)
[02:43] <kamikaye> yeah but nevertheless i want to make it work
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> buy an Nvidia card, and you'll have ubuntu driver nirvana
[02:44] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken,  try system>administration>network tools
[02:44] <kamikaye> -.-''
[02:44] <kamikaye> my ati card was expensive enough
[02:44] <Plantain> IndyGunFreak: I need/want maximum speed on the 320, so I'd rather not boot off it
[02:44] <cBau> Plantain: I like your idea, split the 40, roll 320 storage, sounds like a winner
[02:44] <Duff>  <cBau> sorry back had to answer the door, im in my neighbours comp asking for help on fixing my comp
[02:44] <orbisvicis> has anyone got amarok to detect & play cds in both drives ?
[02:44] <cBau> Duff: Gotcha, you have only 1 computer?
[02:45] <zipper> I have an Intel HDA onboard soundcard and a Soundblaster Audigy 4 soundcard. The Intel HDA is set as default, but i want to use my audigy card instead... How to do this?
[02:45] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: what?
[02:45] <kamikaye> so does no one of u know why if i klick on the control center button it doesnt start?
[02:45] <sahil> so how do i play a game in linux through WINE ?
[02:45] <yellow_chicken> there's nothing there, nothing useful
[02:45] <kamikaye> i know i had the same problem with windows but there i needed to install net framework
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> sahil: depends on the game
[02:45] <Zorlin> sahil - sudo apt-get install wine
[02:45] <orbisvicis> zipper, you can always turn off the onboard in bios
[02:45] <Zorlin> if you don't have wine
[02:45] <ompaul> !wine | sahil
[02:45] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken,  you asked how to identify an IP address?
[02:45] <ubotu> sahil: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:45] <Zorlin> then you'd usually nav to the directory [command line] 
[02:45] <sahil> Conflict :Desert Strom II
[02:45] <ompaul> !enter > kamikaye (please read the message from the bot, thanks ;-) )
[02:45] <sahil> its old
[02:45] <Zorlin> and type wine locationoffile
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> sahil: some games work great, some barely work, alot work not at all.
[02:46] <Zorlin> like, wine /opt/programs/example.exe
[02:46] <Duff>  <cBau> yeah only one comp
[02:46] <zipper> orbisvicis: seems a bit overkill.... It must be possible from within linux
[02:46] <krishghosh> I have a question. Can I transfer the contents of Ubuntu 7.04 live CD to my 1 GB pen drive and use it for installation?
[02:46] <Zorlin> most wont work
[02:46] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: ah.. ok, i see
[02:46] <kamikaye> k sry
[02:46] <yellow_chicken> thanks
[02:46] <Zorlin> krishgosh, yes
 I would see if you can find a GRUB disk... or another MBR solution... there are several.
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> Zorlin: as long as pokerstars works, i don't care..lol
[02:46] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken, so try system>administration>network tools
[02:46] <nzhomie> anyone using amsn?
[02:46] <krishghosh> Zorlin: Can you please explain ... how?
[02:47] <Zorlin> Krish, hang on
[02:47] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel
[02:47] <Gerro> spike_s: you here? sorry was afk when you were messaging me. WIsh you luck, read that book though its kinda boring.
[02:47] <kamikaye> so no one has any idea why the control center doesnt start? has no one got a ati card?
[02:47] <Stormx2> !usb | krishghosh
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <sahil> does the game need to be installed on Linux some how
 I have no idea why it won't boot CDs if you chose it in the BIOS... perhaps disconnect the hard drive and see if it will boot a disk then
[02:47] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[02:47] <Plantain> nzhomie: on occaisions (not under ubuntu however)
[02:47] <sahil> or just run through the terminal
[02:47] <ompaul> !bootoptions | johnnytang24
[02:47] <ubotu> johnnytang24: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[02:47] <orbisvicis> zipper, should be but i dont know how hmm
[02:47] <dreadscore> hello, is there a packages source that has squid 2.6 for dapper?
[02:48] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: faster with just 'whois' at commandline
[02:48] <nzhomie> plantain : i can't get tsl or tcl working with 0.97
[02:48] <Plantain> Duff: I just had the exact same problem and it turned out I had both the HD and the CD drive on the same power jack (a splitter halfway), and the CD drive wouldn't spin up because it was short of power or something
[02:48] <Plantain> nzhomie: ahh, like I said, I did it under a different OS
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: can you start control center from the menu?
[02:48] <nzhomie> did you just apt-get it ?
[02:48] <kamikaye> from menu?
[02:48] <dave-ubu> yellow_chicken,  indeed it is - but i dont know you're level of expertise - so i headed for the lowest common denominator - a GUI and simple instructions
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> there's  not a menu entry for it?
[02:48] <zipper> orbisvicis: me neither... tried switching master channel and stuff, but no luck so far
[02:49] <kamikaye> yes there is and with that entry i tried it
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> hmm.
[02:49] <yellow_chicken> dave-ubu: i was expecting a web page to do the job.  cause i used once a long time ago
[02:50] <dave-ubu> you can use www.whois.net ?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> what happens when you right click you desktop?... if i recallc orrectly, under Windows, catalyst center, all the menus and crap came up when i right clicked my desktop(under windows)
[02:50] <gtfx> is there a reason why installing NVIDIA drivers is such an issue?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> gtfx: lol,Nvidia is easy....
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> ATI is the problem
[02:50] <kamikaye> if i right klick theres nothing
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[02:50] <cBau> esplain thyself please gtfx
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: not even the normal menu?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia | gtfx
[02:51] <ubotu> gtfx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:51] <kamikaye> of course theres a menu but nothing with catalyst and ati
[02:51] <gtfx> well, the way i see it. Used to have ATI on my HP laptop
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: ok.
[02:52] <gtfx> well no matter which one of the methods i choose i still get the "Failed to load NVIDIA module"
[02:52] <dreadscore> bye
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> kamikaye: i assume you restarted after installing the driver.
[02:52] <kamikaye> already did so
[02:53] <dave-ubu> kamikaye, which video card is it ?
[02:53] <kamikaye> x1900xt
[02:53] <orbisvicis> zipper, it has to do with alsa ... run alsactl --help, backup you old snd card config, then install asoundconf-gtk, hopefull that will work, i dont know ?
[02:53] <justdave> Anyone know if the Netgear GA311 is a supported wired network card on Ubuntu?  It's not listed on the wiki, but the Netgear page looks like it hasn't been updated in a year or so.
[02:53] <chombee> If I'm upgrading from Dapper->Edgy then from Edgy->Feisty, do I need to restart the computer inbetween the two upgrades?
[02:53] <dave-ubu> and you installed which package? nvidia-glx ?
[02:53] <justdave> the FA311 is listed, which makes me suspect it probably is, but I figured I'd ask before I go spend money on it :)
[02:54] <cBau> Probably so, because of the new kernels | Chombee
[02:54] <justdave> FA311 is 100 Mbit, GA311 appears to be the same with Gigabit
[02:54] <zipper> orbisvicis: i'll try that, thanks
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: just boot a live cd and see if it connects to the internet..
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> if it does, then the card is supported..ll
[02:54] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel, and I tried all the boot options
[02:55] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: Don't have the card in my possession yet.
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> oh.
[02:55] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: have to spend money to get it, that's why I was asking first ;)
[02:56] <justdave> it's on sale right now at Circuit City (and I'm in quick need of a Gigabit card) so it'd be a quick way to get one
[02:56] <justdave> guess I can always return it if it doesn't work, and add it to the wiki if it does :)
[02:56] <Paine> quick need?
[02:56] <Sijmes_> Hello
[02:56] <yellow_chicken> how to clear xterm buffer, so that when i scroll up, it will only scroll up to the point were i cleared the buffer
[02:56] <chombee> thanks cBau
[02:57] <Sijmes_> Can anyone please help me with a problem
[02:57] <robgrant> Is there anyway to install linux-image-generic instead of linux-generic to a clean target when using 7.04 alternate install?
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[02:57] <justdave> suppose I'm not that desperate, just getting tired of it taking so long to move files to my network storage (which is shared from the huge drive on the Ubuntu box) when copying between all the other computers on my LAN is so quick :)
[02:57] <Sijmes_> my window borders have dissapeard whilst using beryl ...?
[02:57] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: yeah, I'm looking at that already.
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> oh ok
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> well, easiest thing tod o, is get one on the list
[02:57] <krishghosh> anyone uses 7.04 ?
[02:57] <justdave> that's what I said above, the GA311 isn't listed on the Netgear page.
[02:58] <rjune> Which repository is non-free?
[02:58] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: are you around ?
[02:58] <Hobbsee> rjune: multiverse
[02:58] <Shinji> hello
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: yes
[02:58] <justdave> doesn't say it's not supported either, though, so probably nobody's tested it yet (or hasn't reported it anyway)
[02:58] <Paine> I'm about to create a new partitiion on my 2nd HD for ubuntu, how much space should I give it (approximately)?
[02:58] <Shinji> when I use Beryl, I can't use the gnome feature "always on top' why?
[02:58] <justdave> Ubuntu's been good to me, suppose it'd be worth the hassle to be the guinea pig and find out. :)
[02:58] <rjune> Hobbsee: thanks, packages refer to non-free repo, but it's not listed anywhere
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !codecs > rjune
[02:59] <Hobbsee> rjune: usually a debian term
[02:59] <rjune> Hobbsee: looking for lha actually
[02:59] <robgrant> paine see my pm
[03:00] <rjune> I also went looking for kubuntu as the wiki says to install it for KDE.
[03:00] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: I have made some progress, reboot did not fix the problem, however i was not memeber of admin group, after adding myself to that group I can not execute applications using sudo, If i start something using sudo, it works fine, sounds works fine. But nothing works if i try it as my normal user. Looks like something to do with permissions
[03:00] <Paine> robgrant: I don't see it o.o
[03:00] <rjune> that package doesn't seem to exist either.
[03:00] <orbisvicis> zipper, also see http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499520 --- you dont need asoundconf-gtk (though it makes life easier) b/c asoundconf is already installed..
[03:00] <justdave> I'm basically picking from what's available at the local stores, because I didn't feal like mail-ordering it, and that's the only gigabit card I've found on sale locally.
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> ghata1: i have no idea.... sorry
[03:00] <ghata1> IndyGunFreak: fair enough
[03:00] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: whats your budget?
[03:01] <justdave> "within reason" :)
[03:01] <justdave> the GA311 that I found so far is $25
[03:01] <justdave> ($24.99 actually)
[03:02] <robgrant> paine: you there?
[03:02] <Paine> yerp
[03:02] <Paine> don't see your pm though :|
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: well, i know its not what you asked..., but   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsDlink  look at the DGE-530T, then go here..  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=686143&sku=D700-2242
[03:02] <robgrant> paine: you pm'me
[03:03] <Paine> I pm'd you after you said you'd pm'd me to say I couldn't see your pm :P
[03:03] <Paine> that's a lot of 'ds
[03:03] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:03] <[agatha] > hum IndyGunFreak  any clue which is the path where the file (still dunno which one) is in my computer? trying to handle ed2k links with firefox but im feeling nuts :P
[03:03] <robgrant> paine: still have your pm open
[03:03] <Shinji> when I use Beryl, I can't use the gnome feature "always on top' why?
[03:04] <ompaul> Shinji, ask in #ubuntu-effects
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : ed2k?
[03:04] <justdave> $5 cheaper, but I bet it costs that $5 to ship it. :)
[03:04] <[agatha] > yup trying to make firefox open them but no way :P
[03:04] <orbisvicis> so anyone know how to make amarok detect both /dev/hda and /dev/hdb for "play audio cd"
[03:04] <[agatha] > says something about a path where a file is installed in the computer but i dont know where that file is
[03:04] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: yeah,  but my point is, it looks like its confirmed to work "out of the box" with feisty, and its not expensive
[03:04] <toddobryan> Easy and stupid question: I know there's a way to set up a directory so that anything saved in it inherits the owner and group of the directory. I thought it was chmod ug+s, but I have directories with permissions drwsrws--- and files saved into them are getting the user who created them as an owner rather than the owner of the directory.
[03:04] <robgrant>  Is there anyway to install linux-image-generic instead of linux-generic to a clean target when using 7.04 alternate install?
[03:04] <justdave> IndyGunFreak: yep.
[03:05] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : have you tried a system search?
[03:05] <rjune> so is lha included in feisty fawn?
[03:06] <robgrant> rjune: I think there are alot of ha's in ff
[03:06] <[agatha] > yup a sudo find / - file *ed2k* something like that, only 2 ,gif as result :S
[03:06] <justdave> TigerDirect wants $7.50 to ship it in 7 days, $15 for 2 days
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> I need help my laptop seems to becoming very hot "sensors" in a terminal reads 78 degrees!!!
[03:06] <justdave> hmm, decisions decisions. :)
[03:06] <Paddy_EIRE> and the fan is going constant now
[03:06] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : try using Places Menu/Search for files, and set the pulldown menu to Filesystem
[03:06] <[agatha] > oki
[03:06] <justdave> that's still reasonable, so do I want to wait? :)
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: lol, i know.
[03:07] <robgrant>  Is there anyway to install linux-image-generic instead of linux-generic to a clean target when using 7.04 alternate install?
[03:07] <orbisvicis> 78 f isnt hot, 78 C is about 8 deg above red line
[03:07] <IndyGunFreak> justdave: dlink is fairly popular, maybe a local electronics store(best Buy, compusa, etc) has that card in stock.
[03:07] <rjune> packages.ubuntu.com says it's there, but add/remove doesn't find it
[03:07] <justdave> the open source purist in me is telling me I should go ahead and get the Netgear one *because* it's not listed (either positively or negatively) on the wiki and get a definitive answer put on the wiki for it.
[03:07] <Paddy_EIRE> panic is setting in and I will not be recommending ubuntu or linux to a soul if it "breaks" your hardware
[03:08] <gdi2k> greetings. I have a fresh install of feisty, it's working nicely. However, I want to manually configure my network interfaces using /etc/network/interfaces, but network-manager keeps interfering with things. Is there a way to disable it?
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: lol, what are you saying it broke?
[03:08] <rjune> I'm assuming I need to update the apt cache, how do I do that within the gui?
[03:08] <justdave> thanks for the input :)
[03:08] <[agatha] > hum again the same results just 2 gifs -.-
[03:08] <orbisvicis> Paddy_EIRE, 78 f isnt hot, 78 C is about 8 deg above red line
[03:08] <[agatha] > ill try in amule room i think
[03:08] <sc0tch> Is Thunderbird 2.0.0.x available for Ubuntu 6.10? I did not see it in repo's, and looks like 1.5.x is installed by default.
[03:08] <Hobbsee> justdave: check what chipset is on it
[03:08] <Hobbsee> sc0tch: no it isnt
[03:08] <Paddy_EIRE> orbisvicis, win never never reads that hot
[03:08] <Hobbsee> justdave: the netgears can often be hell.
[03:08] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : are you still trying to get amule working?
[03:09] <Hobbsee> justdave: but then, some of the dlinks are using ralink chipsets, which can be pains too - you want something with an atheros chipset
[03:09] <toddobryan> Ahhh....
[03:09] <justdave> the confirmed-working one on the wiki is a netsemi.
[03:09] <[agatha] > nah amule works pretty find... i just cant click on ed2k from the way, says firefox hasnt any protocol associated to those files
[03:09] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, no, but this is so so disappointing, disillusioned by linux is how I feel
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: well, whats the problem
[03:10] <Thead> Hi all is someone there
[03:10] <toddobryan> It turns out that setuid on a directory works on FreeBSD and I'm migrating from a Mac OS X system. Hmm... now I'm not sure what to do.
[03:10] <mar77i> Hi all. I'm expierencing strange random pause activation in the game lbreakout2 in Single Player mode - which means I'm not connected to a server.
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, cpu temp is 78 degress all of a sudden
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : ed2k, thats still a mystery to me, what sort of file is that?
[03:10] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE: What's the problem? sorry, I just joined. Laptop running hot?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> justdave: go with that one, then
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: lol, and you blame that on ubuntu?
[03:10] <orbisvicis> Paddy_EIRE, is it C or F ... if its hot its a fan most likely, those are controlled by the bios
[03:10] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, ofcourse
[03:10] <rinky> anyone know how I can check what version of fuse I have installed?
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: i don't say this often, but... Stick with Windows, Linux is not for you
[03:11] <justdave> that's the 100mbit card though.
[03:11] <[agatha] > the elinks used in the amule/emule protocol IndyGunFreak  its how you download files with emule/amule... normally its just enough clicking from the website so they get into your a/emule but not here... no protocol asociated to handle them... found something in the amule wiki but dunno where the heck is that directory i have to add :P
[03:11] <Thead> ubuntu is more for newbies then ever i thing
[03:11] <Thead> k
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, if you cant help then clear of please
[03:11] <Plantain> Is there a partitioner build into Ubuntu 5.1 ?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: well, you're being silly, and you know it.
[03:11] <gdi2k> Paddy: is it a laptop?
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : hang on, im' gonna install amule
[03:11] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, dont be so smug about a situation that I should not be in
[03:12] <[agatha] > thanks IndyGunFreak  :D
[03:12] <rjune> can anyone explain why apt-get shows a package, but add/remove does not?
[03:12] <GrueTamer> rjune: apt-get has more packages than add/remove
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: lol, ok... have a nice day, remember, Start Programs, whatever
[03:12] <rjune> add/remove from the menu is just synaptic, right?
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, no what, you really are not helping could you either help or go away
[03:12] <Thead> try synaptic that list all packs
[03:12] <rjune> GrueTamer: it's not just a frontend to apt?
[03:12] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, twat
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:12] <GrueTamer> synaptic is in the system>administration panel
[03:12] <aroo> Keep your quibbles out of this channel.
[03:12] <orbisvicis> !offtopic | Thead , no most things need to be done from command, just ubuntu tends to work outa box
[03:12] <ubotu> Thead , no most things need to be done from command, just ubuntu tends to work outa box: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:12] <IndyGunFreak> i'm not quibbling.
[03:13] <Thead> ok ok :D
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> i just don't understand how ubuntu is to blame for a laptop overheating, thats all.
[03:13] <rjune> Why would you hide packages like that? expecially ones that are referenced in the docs and on other, listed packages
[03:13] <rinky> what's paddy's problem exactly, I dont feel like scrolling up :)
[03:13] <orbisvicis> :P
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, zealotry really is ugly
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : send me a link to one of those ed2k files, or whatever
[03:13] <orbisvicis> hey, overclocker what do you use to overclock from with linux ie not bios ?
[03:13] <[agatha] > hum sec
[03:13] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, its far from perfect and YOU know it
[03:14] <GrueTamer> rjune: i personally dont know anything about add/remove besides that its easy to use, and that it doesnt show all of the packages in apt
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: i guess thats in the mind of the person at the PC.., but Windows is far from perfect also.l
[03:14] <overclocker> hi, i'm trying to enable the java plugin in firefox in feisty, i'm using jdk6 in amd64, does this works?
[03:14] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, Im not debating that
[03:14] <ompaul> !nickspam  > charclo  (please check the message from the bot)
[03:14] <[agatha] > IndyGunFreak,  here i paste? :S
[03:14] <[agatha] > or where? :S
[03:14] <justdave> ok, the chip on the GA311 is an RTL8169
[03:14] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE, ignore Indy and look at fixing your problem. generally these laptops only get hot if the processor is under constant strain - what does the system monitor tell you about CPU usage?
[03:14] <ompaul> !paste | [agatha] 
[03:14] <ubotu> [agatha] : pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : yeah, you can just paste the link if you want
[03:15] <[agatha] > ill use pastebin sec
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> is it that long/
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[03:15] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, Im saying that an OS should not break hardware!! plain and simple otherwise no one but uber geeks should use it I mean come on
[03:15] <[agatha] > IndyGunFreak,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24851/
[03:15] <justdave> which google is telling me has been supported in Linux since early 2.4 kernels
[03:15] <[agatha] > no not really but i have somekind of aversion about pasting ed2k... some habits cant go :S
[03:15] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, does it work with other software?
[03:15] <justdave> so that sounds like a reasonable expectation that it'll probably work
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: well, linux has never broken my hardware
[03:15] <gdi2k> don't worry, it won't break your hardware. the pc will shutdown before anything goes up in smoke
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : i see...lol
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> IndyGunFreak, I suddenly have to be a programmer to use an os, with win this never happened in all my years with it
[03:16] <[agatha] > hehe IndyGunFreak  :P some places you get nasty stuff pasting ed2k links in open channel... been a long time attitude :D
[03:16] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: you dont have to be a programmer to use an os
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> Paddy_EIRE: ok.. relax
[03:16] <aroo> Paddy_EIRE do you need any further support?
[03:16] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, please be aware you have strayed offtopic
[03:16] <Paddy_EIRE> aroo, yes!!
[03:17] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE: what does your system monitor say about cpu usage? is it maxed out?
[03:17] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have received nothing but fan boy arquments after asking a question about temp
[03:17] <Paddy_EIRE> 1 sec
[03:18] <OuZo> !php
[03:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:18] <johnnytang24> I need help booting past 'Begin: Running scripts /scripts/init-bottom'
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, yes
[03:18] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, some people have asked you three times what about your system indicators .. please look at them and engage with them
[03:18] <rjune> GrueTamer: Even after installing the package, add/remove doesnt' show it. that's seriously screwy
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I had
[03:18] <intima> hey, is digital (optical) audio working in feisty on AC'97 Audio Controller integrated sound?
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, this conversation will take all day can you help
[03:19] <GrueTamer> rjune: i believe that add/remove has a specific list of packages that it shows
[03:19] <Paddy_EIRE> or not
[03:19] <gdi2k> that's your problem - find out what app is causing 100% cpu usage - maybe it's an app that's locked up
[03:19] <intima> the analogue outputs work but not the toslink digital one
[03:19] <radhy_nherox> hay
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : it almost looks like that link is bad, where did you get the link?
[03:19] <gdi2k> my laptop gets damn hot when I play chess on hard level - when the CPU is maxed out constantly
[03:19] <gdi2k> it's normal
[03:19] <five_star> hey guys, is there a way to make a program always open up on a certain workspace?
[03:20] <[agatha] > hum in my amule xD
[03:20] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: look under system monitor -> Processes tab and you can see what is causing your CPU to max out... (see % CPU column)
[03:20] <[agatha] > ed2k links are just shown with a right click on the file you have alreadydownloaded
[03:20] <[agatha] > they come with it
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> [agatha] : type this command, no quotes... "/join #indygunfreak"
[03:20] <zoidberg> hey guys
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, nothing indicates heavy cpu usage in there
[03:20] <hatter> is there a good gnome xorg configurator ?  instead of haveing to stuff around with the xorg.conf by hand ?
[03:20] <zoidberg> isnt there a way to access DRAM or something....for computers with low ram so they can access memeory properly or directly for DVD playback?
[03:20] <ShackJack> But you say your system monitor is showing 100% usage?
[03:21] <overclocker> could i enable the java plugin in firefox in amd64?
[03:21] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: But you say your system monitor is showing 100% usage?
[03:21] <graveson1> i intended to use ubuntu as a linux media center on an old pc.after a month of struggling to get the tv out to work,can anyone recommend a good approach or another way to go about this
[03:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, yes thats correct
[03:21] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: Did you click %CPU column to sort top to bottom?
[03:21] <five_star> graveson1: I don't know of anything that can help you at this moment, but the creators of the xbmc (the xbox media center for hacked original xboxes) is being ported to linux
[03:22] <five_star> *are porting it
[03:22] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE: re-order the process list by CPU usage by clicking on the tab that reads "%CPU" so that the apps consuming the most are at the top
[03:22] <kilosux> ubuntu-fr
[03:22] <orbisvicis> overclocker, i believe youll need blackdown 1.4 java, kinda buggy & old, but only thing that works w/ 64 bit ... and it wont conflict with say 32 bit java 1.6 if already installed
[03:22] <orbisvicis> Paddy_EIRE, you can also open a terminal and type top
[03:23] <ShackJack> orbisvicis: I wouldn't suggested that but you know how scared ppl are of the terminal ;)
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Still nothing is showing up as heavy processes???
[03:23] <orbisvicis> ;
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, top seems good actually
[03:24] <orbisvicis> ^^
[03:24] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, do ps auwx >foo then paste the contents of foo into the pastebin
[03:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, almost ever single process says 0 and has sleeping next to them
[03:24] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, can you give us your load average - the numbers on the top right when running "top"
[03:25] <graveson1> five_star:thanks, i am going to try mythic tv now and then knoppix, i am really dissapointed as my main linux server is ubuntu and i am really happy wiith that
[03:25] <DJ-_-> well I am stuck at changing the time..Anyone?
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> !paste | Paddy_EIRE
[03:25] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: Elaborate please?
[03:25] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: how do i set the date and time
[03:26] <orbisvicis> DJ-_-, right click calendar and say adjust date and time, and if its still messed up make sure you arent synched to a time server
[03:26] <DJ-_-> where can i find calendat
[03:26] <DJ-_-> calendar*
[03:26] <orbisvicis> DJ-_-, what version ?
[03:26] <DJ-_-> got it
[03:26] <DJ-_-> settings
[03:26] <intima> hey, is digital (optical) audio working in feisty on AC'97 Audio Controller integrated sound? the normal analogue jacks work but not the toslink one.
[03:26] <magnetron> DJ-_-: system > administration > time & date
[03:27] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, you should also check out if your CPU is scaling down correctly. To do this, right click on an empty space in one of your Gnome Panels at the top of the screen, choose "Add to Panel", then choose the "CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor"
[03:27] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: Though I usually keep a clock in my gnome panel and then you can right click as orbisvicis said...
[03:28] <mar77i> help
[03:28] <Paddy_EIRE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24854/ ompaul gdi2k ShackJack
[03:28] <ShackJack> mar77i: just ask question...
[03:28] <orbisvicis> yep
[03:29] <DJ-_-> ok thx
[03:29] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel, and I tried all the boot options..  I don't know where to begin fixing this problem.
[03:30] <sahil> anyone know how to set-up the icons so that they work in cairo-dock
[03:30] <orbisvicis> graveson1, i know if you use twinview you can setup up xorg.conf to setup tv-out, (and then you'll have to get tv to open on that display), but then again i dont know much about tv-out, so
[03:31] <shy_man> hello
[03:31] <shy_man> serious problem help please
[03:31] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, did you check out the frequency scaling? Turns out that mine has stopped scaling down on my desktop too since the latest kernel upgrade. Can anyone else confirm? I'm using AMD64 dual core
[03:31] <sebrock> it's no problem running a Ubuntu box without a graphic card right?
[03:31] <ShackJack> shy_man: just ask question...
[03:31] <mar77i> ShackJack: in several games, got several games that pause at (as far as I can tell) random occasions - and LostIRC got lags of about 1.5 sec
[03:31] <DJ-_-> is it normal for ubuntu on xfce to take 15secs++ to hibernate on a 2.4ghz 1.5gb ram
[03:31] <hhb> hi
[03:31] <shy_man> I am new using Ubuntu
[03:31] <DJ-_-> lets make that 20++
[03:31] <ShackJack> mar77i: Not to me to board, please...
[03:31] <DJ-_-> shy_man welcome
[03:31] <shy_man> I installed some libs not really knowing what they were
[03:31] <sahil> shy_man, nice to have you on board
[03:31] <shy_man> now when I start X I can see nothing:/
[03:32] <ShackJack> shy_man: don't use return so much...
[03:32] <graveson1> orbisvicis: i have tried that(numerous howto's on ubuntuforums) but no luck.
[03:32] <DJ-_-> Shackjack: is it normal for ubuntu on xfce to take 20secs++ to hibernate on a 2.4ghz 1.5gb ram
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> new users should be told that there maybe a possibility that ubuntu can break your stuff or at least reduce its life dramatically due to overheating (if thats all thats going on, Im really beginning to wonder) this was not made clear
[03:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, your machine is being weighed down at some level with this:  5899 6021 6023
[03:32] <shy_man> not only X i can't see
[03:32] <mar77i> in several games, got several games that pause at (as far as I can tell) random occasions - and LostIRC got lags of about 1.5 sec
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:32] <DJ-_-> Paddy_EIRE?"
[03:32] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: I can't say... I don't use XCFE though I know that Hivernate is flakey in general...
[03:32] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE - you grumble a lot but don't take any of the suggestions
[03:33] <orbisvicis> graveson1, you have to have nvidia for that to work ...
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> DJ-_-, yes?
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> DJ-_-: just sit there and watch in amusement..lol, he gets pretty defensive
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:33] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: what about boot times...also 25++
[03:33] <ShackJack> IndyGunFreak: don't bait...
[03:33] <graveson1> orbisvicis: not nvidia chipset.i have an intel 195
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> i didn't
[03:33] <graveson1> orbisvicis: not nvidia chipset.i have an intel i195
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, i have taken them all, cpu 2ghz and 100%
[03:33] <DJ-_-> IndyGunFreak: i see
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> i was warning DJ-_-
[03:33] <shy_man> ?
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, I am within my rights
[03:33] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: GO to services and uncheck services you don't use - that can improve things..
[03:34] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: ok i will give it a try
[03:35] <huascar80> hi, i got a question...
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have no idea what that number is all about?
[03:35] <thoreauputic_> !ask
[03:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:35] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, kill wine and see if it works better
[03:35] <gdi2k> Paddy_EIRE, you have one of 2 problems: you have an app that is consuming 100% of your CPU resources (which isn't clear either way from your top paste) or your CPU is not scaling down as it should. These CPUs should scale down to a fraction of their speed when not in use, and if yours isn't it will run hot
[03:35] <DJ-_-> is disabling gdm and kdm safe...i am on xfce
[03:35] <djy__> where can down ati Revenue drevie
[03:35] <huascar80> is it possible t olet nautilus show images as thumbanils without caching on my hd till it gets full!!!
[03:35] <huascar80> ?
[03:36] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: You can remove those if you're using the XFCE login thingie...
[03:36] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: i dont know if youd want to do that...it should be SAFE, but id keep those, for your sake
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, sudo killall wine ?
[03:36] <DJ-_-> ok
[03:36] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: I guess the thumbnails have to lib=ve somewhere ;)
[03:36] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE, I would disable your desktop effects until you get this sorted to rule that out
[03:36] <Paddy_EIRE> gdi2k, already have
[03:37] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, that is one way, you can kill the programs it is supporting i,e, your torrent stuff and as gdi2k says kill off the extras like desktop effects
[03:37] <huascar80> thoeaoeutci: lib=ve? sorry newb here
[03:37] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: sorry typo for "live"
[03:37] <thoreauputic_> :0
[03:37] <duaneb> ok
[03:37] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: still don't get it..
[03:37] <Yggdrasil> can somone plese tell me how to increase this size ? devshm                 30M     0   30M   0% /dev/shm
[03:37] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: I mean, thumbnails take space - no way around that I guess
[03:37] <huascar80> ah
[03:37] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, wine: no process killed
[03:38] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE, does your CPU scaling apples say that scaling is unsupported, or does it look normal (it should have little lines in the graph)
[03:38] <Yggdrasil> can somone plese tell me how to increase this size? lrm                    30M   26M  3.6M  88% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-386/volatile
[03:38] <duaneb> so I changed all the 'feisty's in sources.list, and did an aptitude update/upgrade
[03:38] <ShackJack> Yggdrasil: what device is that a USB drive?
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: you can turn thumbnailing off though
[03:38] <gdi2k> *applet
[03:38] <Yggdrasil> shackjack actualy that second one.
[03:38] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: i know that
[03:38] <duaneb> but most of the packages were held back, and my kernel wasn't updated!
[03:38] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: go into top in the terminal, hit ctrl+M (note the caps), note the PID for wine, hit q to quit, and then do "sudo kill <PID>"
[03:38] <duaneb> so what should I do?
[03:38] <ShackJack> Yggdrasil: wha?
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: *shrug* OK
[03:38] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: maybe decreasing the cache size?
[03:38] <DJ-_-> my display is off
[03:38] <duaneb> the update-manager didn't work at all, btw
[03:38] <magnetron> !repeat | Yggdrasil
[03:38] <ubotu> Yggdrasil: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:38] <DJ-_-> what do i do now
[03:38] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: could work I guess
[03:38] <DJ-_-> I just disabled gm and poof...all gone
[03:38] <Yggdrasil> well it wasnt a repeat now was it
[03:38] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: any idea how?
[03:38] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, sudo kill -9 5899  6021 6023 << and then turn off amrock
[03:38] <duaneb> anyone?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, wine: no process killed
[03:39] <DJ-_-> gdm*
[03:39] <Monk-e> So, is there a simple way to install a cmdline system of ubuntu on a USB pendrive. i.e. just point the installer to it?
[03:39] <thoreauputic_> huascar80: not off the top of my head, no
[03:39] <duaneb> how SHOULD I upgrade to gutsy?
[03:39] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: help!!!!!!!!!! i turned off gdm and all GUI is gone i am on CLI
[03:39] <Yggdrasil> shackjack did you see the second thing i posted ? when i try to upgrade restricted modules it somehow writes it there  and its running out of space
[03:39] <thoreauputic_> !upgrade
[03:39] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:39] <magnetron> !install | Monk-e
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, im not running amarok
[03:39] <ubotu> Monk-e: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:39] <Yggdrasil> 30M   26M  3.6M  88% /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-386/volatile
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> DJ-_-: oh crap..lol
[03:39] <aroo> DJ-_-: didn't someone tell you not to do it?
[03:39] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: yeah...gdm does the graphical login thing, without it, you log in in the cli
[03:39] <Monk-e> magnetron, thanks
[03:39] <AdministratorX> Good Morning from Marietta, GA
[03:39] <GrueTamer> like i said, its SAFE to turn it off, but i would advise against it
[03:39] <huascar80> thoreauputic_: thanks
[03:40] <GrueTamer> hi AdministratorX
[03:40] <DJ-_-> but i was on xfce
[03:40] <gdi2k> PaddyEIRE: do: ps ax | grep wine     that will tell you the process ID. Then do "kill [process ID] 
[03:40] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: I said only turn if off if you weren't using it and using the XCFE login manager - did you uninstall or is it off?
[03:40] <thoreauputic_> Yggdrasil: that is volatile -it doesn't take any real space
[03:40] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: off
[03:40] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, could have fooled me: python /home/patrick/.kde/share/apps/amarok/scripts/copycover/copycover.py maybe you are doing stuff you don't know here
[03:40] <DJ-_-> i was on xfce login
[03:40] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: no, evidentally you were not ;)
 if you do a df -h you can see theres a bunch of fake drives
[03:40] <DJ-_-> ShackJack: now i rebooted and it shows hostnaem ogin
[03:40] <GrueTamer> you could always just log in with the cli and type startx, but gdm is simpler
[03:41] <DJ-_-> login*
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have not used any of those functions although I was listening to a song earlier
[03:41] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, why are you running apache on a desktop?
[03:41] <irv> is there a way to get ubuntu on a laptop with only 3.5 floppy?
[03:41] <duaneb> can I DOWNGRADE to feisty?
[03:41] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: type your username, and hit enter
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, err
[03:41] <GrueTamer> then itll want your password, so type that
[03:41] <jpotex> Can someone please help me a bit? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24855/
[03:41] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: you're jumping ahead - is that the XCFE login, then?
[03:41] <DJ-_-> logged in
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, whats apache
[03:41] <GrueTamer> and then type either "gdm" or "startx" (no quotes"
[03:41] <thoreauputic_> Yggdrasil: yes - but these don't take space ( like /proc etc)
[03:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, you see what I mean....
[03:41] <DJ-_-> Shackjack; CLI login...and i logged in
[03:41] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: type startx
[03:41] <DJ-_-> gdm goes to next line
[03:41] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: You can also - /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:42] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:42] <jpotex> No idea?
[03:42] <ShackJack> DJ-_-: or sudo init 5
[03:42] <DJ-_-> finally GUI is coming back lol
[03:42] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, no, I don't, you see to install an application is to make it run if it is a daemon - it is a web server, you appear to have lots of things like this samba and so on installed and running
[03:42] <irv> is there a way to get ubuntu on a laptop with only 3.5 floppy?
[03:42] <thoreauputic_> ShackJack: init 5 doesn't do what you think on Ubuntu
[03:42] <DJ-_-> lol i ll get on from there
[03:42] <jpotex> Someone with experience of ATI? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24855/
[03:42] <DJ-_-> brb
[03:42] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, to stop apache sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[03:42] <GrueTamer> irv: not ubuntu...i dont think
[03:42] <Covi_cd> join #ubuntu-es-es
[03:43] <ShackJack> jpotex: you have yet to ask a question...
[03:43] <Covi_cd> #ubuntu-es-es
[03:43] <Covi_cd> arrggggpffff
[03:43] <curiogeo> is it me or is CUPS just a bit confusing,  I am trying to load the drivers for windows clients for a working cups printer
[03:43] <GrueTamer> Covi_cd: type /join #ubuntu-es
[03:43] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, to stop apache sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[03:43] <thoreauputic_> ShackJack: default runlevel is 2 for both X and non-X
[03:43] <irv> ok thanks GrueTammer
[03:43] <jpotex> ShackJack: Without answer, yes.
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, i restart into a normal gnome session and still
[03:43] <Covi_cd> ;) thx
[03:43] <DJ-_-> now should i turn on gdm from services?
[03:43] <aroo> jpotex, you have to ask questions if you want answers
[03:43] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, these things are sitting below the bonnet of the machine
[03:43] <jpotex> aroo: Already done so ^^
[03:43] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you or someone with direct access to your box started them
[03:44] <aroo> jpotex, no, all you did was link a paste
[03:44] <curiogeo> I picked up the cups windows 6 driver does not appear to load to win client when I print
[03:44] <ShackJack> jpotex: no, as far as I saw you just did a pastebin, unless we missed something..
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, how do I make sure it does not start again
[03:44] <ShackJack> aroo beat me to it :)
[03:44] <jpotex> Yes, I pasted a link with the question if someone has experience of ATI.
[03:44] <jpotex> Since I don't know why I get core dumped
[03:44] <aroo> jpotex, ok, then the answer is yes I have experience with ATI
[03:44] <aroo> jpotex, now what?
[03:44] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I am the only person at this laptop, and its brand new :(
[03:45] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, well I have a more important question for you, you stuck in beryl and it is running, so how long have you got ubuntu on it?
[03:45] <Covi_cd> please... need help, how to see errors log?, plz :(
[03:45] <jpotex> aroo: If u check on that link I pasted, there an error in the end of the message while I run aticonfig.
[03:45] <ompaul> Covi_cd, go to /var/logs and poke in there
[03:45] <brucedes> I've installed feisty on my macbook, and use Wicd because the default wireless manager is rubbish. Problem is, when I was using the pre-release version of feisty, it worked perfectly, but not anymore...Anyone else had any problems with Wicd?
[03:45] <jpotex> aroo: Trying to get the latest ATi driver to work with 7.04.
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, about a month
[03:45] <Tom47> Covi_cd: System>Administratio>System Log
[03:45] <jpotex> aroo: I have an ATI X1600XT Radeon
[03:45] <Covi_cd> i know buy i dont know the specific error (srry lang), gdm, kernel...
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, maybe a little over a month actually
[03:45] <aroo> jpotex, I have absolutely no idea how to interpret all that, sorry
[03:46] <curiogeo> what must I do to successfully load the cups driver for windows 6.0
[03:46] <Covi_cd> ok, i try Tom47
[03:46] <Covi_cd> thx
[03:46] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, is it your daily workhorse?
[03:46] <irv> ok next question I have an ATI 128 all in wonder graphics card it works with two monitors but I want to set up one large workspace on it any help?
[03:46] <DJ-_-> lol
[03:46] <jpotex-> aroo: Okey, cause I'm starting to get a bit angry now. I have been trying different things for about 1 week now.
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, normally its fast with bery temp is great and I dont know what suddenly happened
[03:46] <DJ-_-> another x was trying to startup
[03:47] <DJ-_-> i switched to console killed it and restarted another x
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, seems a little strange to me, and I really am alarmed
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, yes
[03:47] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: I would try diabling some of the eye candy - like for example the blur was slowing my ATI powered system down, etc...
[03:47] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, install "bum" boot up manager and use it to stop apache, and smb (samba) unless you are using it
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ShackJack, no blur and all that stuff
[03:47] <ShackJack> Paddy_EIRE: (if beryl is causing your CPU spikage)
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, can they be removed
[03:48] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, they don't need to be
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, instead of installing yet another app I know nothing about
[03:48] <orbisvicis> actually whoever here was taking about java and 64bit firefox can also probably use nspluginwrapper
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, the only thing I can think of was a guide one the wiki for filesharing would have installed those things
[03:48] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, frankly I would say do you if you feel that way, turn off the computer and reinstall from scratch and don't do anything that is not an application or the rest
[03:49] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me how to replace the 'server' kernel with the generic-kernel ?
[03:49] <EvilBro> hello
[03:49] <jrib> orbisvicis: doesn't really work, at least when I tried.  I just use blackdown java's plugin (1.4.2)
[03:49] <irv> Thanks for the help guys and gals
[03:49] <c9s_>  hi , if I want to write a script that can install splashscreen , what path should I put image files into ?
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, is there no really simple way of removing these things
[03:49] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, bum is a program that switches off stuff it only runs while you have it invoked
[03:49] <Gionne> hello
[03:49] <EvilBro> Anyone here who wants to answer some questions of a ubuntu/linux newby
[03:50] <c9s_> splash screen  of gnome
[03:50] <GrueTamer> EvilBro: whats your question?
[03:50] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[03:50] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me how to replace the 'server' kernel with the generic-kernel ?
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, never had probs before like this with ubuntu edgy
[03:50] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, as for beryl I don't know how you isntalled it
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, or dapper
[03:50] <ShackJack> !ak | EvilBro
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <Gionne> i have to compile a source i have that calls gstreamer lib
[03:50] <openmindDJ> Has anyone installed the latest kernel 2.6.20-16.29?
[03:50] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: then use edgy :)
[03:50] <orbisvicis> jrib, ah ok, maybe b/c its more intricate than flash (?)
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, beryl always ran fine
[03:50] <Tom47> Paddy_Eire ... for simplae approaches to adding and removing programs use synaptic
[03:50] <Gionne> it's my first time compiling
[03:50] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: look for linux-generic and install it
[03:50] <orbisvicis> as in cant wrap only the firefox plugin
[03:50] <Covi_cd> ummm... how to stop the refresh in list system log? plz
[03:50] <DJ-_-> opemindDJ: yes it was released today na?
[03:51] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: apt-cache search linux generic should find it
[03:51] <openmindDJ> DJ-_-: indeed.  these kernel updates always make me a bit nervous
[03:51] <jrib> orbisvicis: looking back, I think I just tried it on the symlink, maybe that's why
[03:51] <EvilBro> I recently (5 minutes ago :) ) tried to play "tremulous". It worked for a while full screen, then it went out of full screen mode and everything froze.... how or what do you do at that point? (instead of hitting reset like I did...)
[03:51] <Eric_Jardas> thoreauputic_, don't I have to remove something ? I just install it like that and that's it ?
[03:51] <DJ-_-> openmindDJ: system is perfect
[03:51] <openmindDJ> DJ-_-: ok that's good news, i always like to check
[03:51] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: after you boot from it you can remove the server kernel if you wish
[03:52] <DJ-_-> openmindDJ: give it a try
[03:52] <jrib> ompaul, Paddy_EIRE: to purge stuff, you probably want apache2.2-common since apache2 just owns a bunch of docs
[03:52] <LVDave> Hi! A new 7.04 user here.. Install went great, everything seems to work, but when I hibernate, the system reports "Hal did not hibernate", however the system seems to work ok.. Error message refered me to help, but nothing there..
[03:52] <Gionne> says: Package gstreamer-0.10 wasn't find in the pkg-config search path
[03:52] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: linux-image-generic or something like that
[03:52] <Gionne> what should i do?
[03:52] <GrueTamer> EvilBro: uh...weird...do you have the restricted drivers installed?
[03:52] <Eric_Jardas> thoreauputic_, and how do I set it to boot the generic kernel ?
[03:52] <jrib> Gionne: what are you doing?
[03:52] <Eric_Jardas> after installing it
[03:52] <EvilBro> For video? yeah...
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, whats the command
[03:52] <Gionne> i have to compile this source
[03:52] <GrueTamer> ah, well...i dont know
[03:52] <DJ-_-> basically using linux u can manage a web/mail/rdp/proxy server from justa CLI?
[03:53] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: i would certainly think so
[03:53] <ompaul> !compile | Gionne
[03:53] <ubotu> Gionne: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:53] <thoreauputic_> Eric_Jardas: hit <esc> on boot and you get a menu - choose the generic kernel from the menu and boot
[03:53] <Gionne> using gstreamer library
[03:53] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: replace "apache2" with "apache2.2-common", but I have no idea what you are doing.  I just saw that purge with "apache2"
[03:53] <Gionne> ok i know how to compile
[03:53] <DJ-_-> GrueTamer: all sounds worklable but the rdp..is it possible too?
[03:53] <jrib> Gionne: what are you compiling I mean?
[03:53] <EvilBro> But is there like a ctrl+alt+delete equivalent in ubuntu?
[03:53] <Gionne> but i don't know how to export path
[03:53] <Gionne> ah
[03:53] <Eric_Jardas> thoreauputic_, OK, thank you very much
[03:53] <Gionne> helloworld.c from the manual, the ogg player
[03:53] <Gionne> :D
[03:53] <GrueTamer> you can do almost anything with a CLI, i imagine you can do that
[03:53] <DJ-_-> GrueTamer: doesnt rdp require a GUI?
[03:54] <GrueTamer> i dont know...anything...about rdp...lol
[03:54] <jrib> Gionne: ah, well do you have libgstreamer0.10-dev?  If so, what is the command you are using to compile?
[03:54] <DJ-_-> lol
[03:54] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how do i install CUPS on my xubuntu??
[03:54] <jpotex-> What is the offical name of the ati driver? Is it fglrx?
[03:54] <KI4IKL> !CUPS
[03:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:54] <EvilBro> but how do you get a cli when everything seems frozen?
[03:54] <Gionne> yes i have every gstreamer package
[03:54] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: ati is the open source driver, fglrx is the restricted driver...radeon may be another open driver
[03:54] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, to be honest you should really reinstall and check the box out like that for a while - what you are suggesting is not really the shortest route to being able to be happy with the box again, in fact to prove this start the live CD and the load will not be as high I imagine
[03:54] <Covi_cd> dhcp renewall continious refresh it's normal?
[03:54] <Gionne> i'm on ubuntu 7.04
[03:54] <DJ-_-> ok I am going to a do a CLI version of xubuntu install on a p3 1ghz 256mb
[03:55] <jrib> Gionne: specifically, check that you have the one I mentioned
[03:55] <askand> When I move totemwindow when its playing a video, the video doesnt follow I get a blue colour instead...why?
[03:55] <Gionne> ok
[03:55] <DJ-_-> i m gonna run it as a server...if i need help i ll ask
[03:55] <dfgas> i want to add pictures it is looking for *.jpg and my file for some reason are name *.JPG
[03:55] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: if you need gui you can install something like fluxbox or icewm
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> DJ-_- that should be a good server
[03:55] <jpotex-> Can I see what name the radeon driver us?
[03:55] <jpotex-> use
[03:55] <openmindDJ> on a seperate note i am trying to make a backup image of the main ubuntu partition using partimage.  Assuming that my ext3fs is mounted on hda1, would this be the correct way to create the image backup? "partimage -z1 -o -d save /dev/hda1 /mnt/backup/ubuntu.partimg.gz"  I would then like to burn this to DVD (probably going to need a few discs)
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> I have a bit more ram then you but dual 500 cel's
[03:55] <DJ-_-> GruTamer: wont GUI eat more hard?
[03:55] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[03:55] <dfgas> is there a way to fix that other than renaming all files
[03:55] <KI4IKL> Shin_Gouki, go to synaptic and search for CUPS ...and it should isntall everything for it.
[03:55] <PanzerMKZ> DJ-_- yea it will
[03:55] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: yeah, but its not a whole lot
[03:55] <DJ-_-> GrueTamer: or ram
[03:56] <jpotex-> My xorg.conf is the standard file :S
[03:56] <GrueTamer> yes, it will
[03:56] <PanzerMKZ> and you can turn it off
[03:56] <parrot_> pilote audio SOUND BLASTER CREATIVE
[03:56] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: pastebin it anyway
[03:56] <jpotex-> Hm ok wait
[03:56] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: thx man...i will try it....and how to turn it off?
[03:56] <GrueTamer> i can tell you what driver youre running by looking at it
[03:56] <GrueTamer> DJ-_-: i wouldnt install something like gdm if you install a window manager/desktop environment
[03:56] <sonnie> sound card doesn't work after resuming from hibernation. kernel 2.6.20-15, sound card hda-intel
[03:56] <PanzerMKZ> well I don't think it will be in the start at power on if you install later
[03:57] <GrueTamer> just start it with startx
[03:57] <jpotex-> Hm
[03:57] <MattJ> EvilBro: Ctrl+Alt+F1 should get you to a cli, if only the X is not responding
[03:57] <thoreauputic_> GrueTamer: jpotex- btw the ati and radeon drivers are the same in xorg.conf - you can use either and the radeon driver will load
[03:57] <zoidberg> guys does anyone know how to enable dual monitor display if your laptop has S-Video Out?
[03:57] <jpotex-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24856/
[03:57] <sonnie> but the card does work after reboot.
[03:57] <jrib> zoidberg: what video card?
[03:57] <jpotex-> There it is
[03:57] <GrueTamer> thoreauputic_: ahh
[03:57] <Gruelius> If i install ubuntu to /dev/sda and i plan to put it into a laptop which would make it appear as /dev/hda do i just need to change the device map for grub and fstab?
[03:57] <Yggdrasil> so anyway can somone help me out with my problem
[03:57] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ and GrueTamer: thx...i will gt bk wit questions in a lil :P
[03:57] <Gionne> no i haven't!
[03:57] <Gionne> :D
[03:57] <PanzerMKZ> np
[03:57] <zoidberg> jrib, i think its ati rage pro or something
[03:57] <Gionne> in the packages
[03:57] <GrueTamer> Gruelius: theres a kernel thing that makes hdX turn into sdX
[03:57] <GrueTamer> libata
[03:57] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: Got it?
[03:57] <Gionne> now i have to dl source and install it right?
[03:58] <jrib> zoidberg: k, I only know how to do it with nvidia, but mention ati when you repeat your question in a little bit
[03:58] <jrib> Gionne: you just do:  sudo aptitude install libgstreamer0.10-dev
[03:58] <Gruelius> hrmm, well im trying to install it onto this stupid laptop. Zenwalk took the disk to be /dev/sda and gentoo took it to be /dev/hda
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> GrueTamer what you think about only 256 of ram for that server?
[03:58] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24856
[03:58] <zoidberg> how do u checck waht video card u have?
[03:58] <GrueTamer> PanzerMKZ: i would think he shouldnt run any gui if he doesnt have to
[03:58] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: im looking at it, give me a second
[03:58] <PanzerMKZ> well yea.
[03:58] <jrib> zoidberg: lspci  usualyl helps
[03:59] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: youre running the restricted ati driver, fglrx
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> But ram for that stuff is normally cheap
[03:59] <kitche> Gruelius: 2.6.21 kernel uses libata so for one kernel it might be /dev/hda for a kernel that is 2.6.21 and up it might b e /dev/sda
[03:59] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: "fglrx" in the file is not correct though, it's vesa in the saved file
[03:59] <camuflage> hey people
[03:59] <Gruelius> kitche: right
[03:59] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: so ignore that fglrx and think vesa there :)
[03:59] <KI4IKL> Here is a quote from the "Windows" chat... ""<Plantain> hazzah!
 The filthy boot sector virus that is GRUB  is gone!""
[03:59] <Gionne> thanx jrib
[03:59] <PanzerMKZ> GrueTamer would think that 384 or more would be better
[03:59] <Plantain> haha
[03:59] <camuflage> i can't make the svn update of amsn, keep always with an error
[03:59] <zoidberg> guys does anyone know how to enable dual monitor display if your laptop has S-Video Out...it is an ATI card?
[03:59] <Gruelius> any issues with installing ubuntu to thedisk on a usb caddy from another system then transplanting it?
[03:59] <KI4IKL> ahh and plantain is in here :P
[03:59] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:59] <Plantain> Of course :D
[03:59] <KI4IKL> Plantain, since when is grub a virus???
[04:00] <Plantain> Metaphorically
[04:00] <amaache> hi congratulation ubunto logo on bbc: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/6733501.stm
[04:00] <Gruelius> zoidberg: is it?
[04:00] <Plantain> I know it's not an actual virus
[04:00] <Zorlin> ...Its not really
[04:00] <Zorlin> ^^
[04:00] <Plantain> but it sure as hell has been screwing up my... everything
[04:00] <GrueTamer> grub can be very difficult to learn
[04:00] <camuflage> checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[04:00] <Gruelius> zoidberg: You will need to read up on xorg.conf, there should be some info on the wiki about dual monitors
[04:00] <Plantain> I couldn't boot my XP install CD anymore
[04:00] <Plantain> and I couldn't repartition
[04:00] <EvilBro> Another question: where can I find bug descriptions? (My laptop says "PCI BUG #81" or something)
[04:00] <GrueTamer> i dont think thats grubs fault...
[04:00] <Plantain> formatting would always fail
[04:00] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: I installed Ubuntu earlier and downloaded the new ATI-driver. I ran the installation gui and it said it was completed and that I should restart after running aticonfig. But when I ran aticonfig I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24855/ as error message.
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I restarted the comp afaik apache is gone, i think amarok may have been the problem...also can I give you my currently running processes and you could tel me what should not be running
[04:01] <zoidberg> Gruelius, but does that say anything about s-video
[04:01] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: use the restricted drivers manager instead
[04:01] <thoreauputic_> Plantain: doesn't sound remotely like a grub problem
[04:01] <Gruelius> ah svideo right
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, like I want beryl, but none of that server stuff
[04:01] <jpotex-> GrueTamer: So what I'm trying to do is to install the ATI-driver and get 1680x1050 in screen resolution
[04:01] <Gruelius> im clueless with that, you wont get a good picture really anyway
[04:01] <Plantain> GrueTamer: It's coincidence that the moment I remove GRUB, the moment it starts booting? :S
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, oh and whats vino-server
[04:01] <Gruelius> jpotex: add the modeline in the xorg.conf
[04:01] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, wine
[04:01] <Plantain> and the same moment I can repartition my HD again? :S
[04:01] <sonnie> the grub timer just STOPS when displaying the menu, why?
[04:01] <Plantain> Anyway, it's gone now
[04:01] <Plantain> and it'll be back on by tomorrow
[04:01] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: use the restricted drivers manager, or change fglrx to ati
[04:01] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, is wine bad
[04:02] <thoreauputic_> Paddy_EIRE: vino is a vnc server
[04:02] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, install bum it will let you turn off that
[04:02] <ompaul> woops
[04:02] <jpotex-> Well, if I use the manager by X will crash as last time.
[04:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, ok
[04:02] <GrueTamer> jpotex-: then change fglrx to ati and restart X
[04:02] <jpotex-> hm ok
[04:02] <jpotex-> I'll try that
[04:03] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, thanks
[04:03] <jpotex-> brb
[04:03] <thoreauputic_> :)
[04:03] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, great catch
[04:03] <Gionne> now working :-D
[04:03] <Tom47> Paddy_EIRE: wine is fine in moderation
[04:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Tom47, I just use it for utorrent
[04:03] <GrueTamer> Paddy_EIRE: use a linux torrent client
[04:03] <MenZa> Transmission is alright, I find
[04:03] <Trae> I need some help getting it so that /dev/sdb1 is mounted at boot.  Could someone help me with that?
[04:03] <PanzerMKZ> Tom47: wine not win
[04:04] <PanzerMKZ> wine not wine rather
[04:04] <MenZa> !fstab | Trae
[04:04] <ubotu> Trae: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:04] <Trae> it's just a 2nd hard drive with files and stuff on it
[04:04] <askand> When I move totemwindow when its playing a video, the video doesnt follow I get a blue colour instead...why?
[04:04] <GrueTamer> i dont think that thats what Trae wanted...
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> GrueTamer, I cant find anything as good as utorrent for gnome
[04:04] <Trae> MenZa, fstab isn't the easiest thing on the planet to deal with, hence why I was asking for help.
[04:04] <thoreauputic_> GrueTamer: utorrent *is* nice though ( just plyed with it in wine a few days ago - I use deluge and azureus here mostly)
[04:04] <MenZa> Trae, what kind of drive is it?
[04:04] <PanzerMKZ> what about rtorrent
[04:04] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: I can recommend Transmission
[04:04] <Plantain> I actually wondered how many channels my little quote might be reiterated in
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> GrueTamer, that also supports encryption
[04:04] <Trae> it's jsut a hard drive
[04:04] <PanzerMKZ> torrent at command line
[04:04] <Plantain> I've picked it up in 2 so far XD
[04:04] <askand> How do I make mplayer open my dvvd when I insert it?
[04:04] <Trae> sata drive
[04:04] <GrueTamer> sure, utorrent is nice, but ive seen wine slow down my system in the past, and well...thats that
[04:04] <Paddy_EIRE> MenZa, is that in the repos
[04:04] <MenZa> Trae: Sure, but what file type?
[04:05] <Trae> I currently type:  mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[04:05] <Trae> to mount it
[04:05] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: No, but I've built a package (!WorksForMe)
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> GrueTamer, ok, I see
[04:05] <jrib> askand: tweak  system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[04:05] <thoreauputic_> Plantain: you are now officially a heretic ;p
[04:05] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: I'll link you, if you want me to
[04:05] <Trae> hmm ext3 I think, sec
[04:05] <dfgas> how can i do a mass name change, i want th orignal name but change it from JPG to jpg
[04:05] <Paddy_EIRE> MenZa, yes please
[04:05] <Plantain> hooray :D
[04:05] <MenZa> Just a second.
[04:05] <jrib> dfgas: use 'rename'.  Do you understand regular expressions?
[04:05] <Trae> /dev/sdb1             147G   47G   94G  34% /mnt
[04:05] <Trae> heh
[04:05] <thoreauputic_> ;)
[04:05] <GrueTamer> Trae: add it as a startup command
[04:05] <dfgas> jrib, no  :(
[04:06] <MenZa> GrueTamer: No, fstab is created for the purpose
[04:06] <MenZa> Trae: Do you have an fstab entry for it now?
[04:06] <squ1> anybody there can help me fix my network ?
[04:06] <kitche> dfgas: you can actually make a small script if you wanted to using a for loop
[04:06] <thoreauputic_> squ1: could you possibly be vaguer ?
[04:06] <GrueTamer> well, of course it was, im just trying to offer some strange help advice :)
[04:06] <Trae> MenZa, Possibly I wasn't clear.  I currently have to type mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt   by hand to get the drive to mount
[04:06] <MenZa> Yes, Trae
[04:06] <PanzerMKZ> squ1: I got a 10 pound sledge
[04:07] <MenZa> Trae: But we want to add it to our fstab
[04:07] <PanzerMKZ> would that help?
[04:07] <Trae> MenZa, which means there is no fstab entry heh
[04:07] <dfgas> kitche, no idea how
[04:07] <sharperguy> lol, which update tofay requred a restart (i wasnt paying attention when i clicked update)
[04:07] <MenZa> Trae: There might be; I have an fstab entry that doesn't automount
[04:07] <jrib> dfgas: http://www.regular-expressions.info/ is an ok intro.  For what you asked, you would 'cd' to the directory with all the .JPG and issue:  rename -n 's/\.JPG$/.jpg/' *.JPG      but note that this will only *tell* you what it will do.  If it looks ok, then run the command again without the "-n"
[04:07] <MenZa> Trae: sudo <favourite text editor here> /etc/fstab
[04:07] <thoreauputic_> sharperguy: kernel fix
[04:07] <MenZa> Paddy_EIRE: Did that go through?
[04:07] <sharperguy> thoreauputic_, thanks
[04:07] <Danux_> i'm having problems with my wireless card not being able to obtain any DHCP offers. it managed to get a connection last night for 2 seconds and sign me into gaim, but it dropped straight away and i've not had a connection since
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> MenZa, cheers man, looks great..and my tracker supports it
[04:08] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[04:08] <MenZa> Perfect, Paddy_EIRE :)
[04:08] <MenZa> Trae: Any sign of /dev/sdb1?
[04:08] <soyporti> hello everyone
[04:08] <GrueTamer> hi soyporti
[04:08] <DJ-_-> is there anyway i can configure bluetooth in ubuntu
[04:08] <Trae> MenZa, negative
[04:08] <MenZa> !bluetooth | DJ-_-
[04:08] <ubotu> DJ-_-: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:08] <thoreauputic_> DJ-_-: bluez-utils ?
[04:08] <Trae> why isn't there a nice gui tool for fstab?
[04:09] <thoreauputic_> !info bluez-utils
[04:09] <ubotu> bluez-utils: Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 3.9-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 280 kB, installed size 832 kB
[04:09] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, should mono-xsp be running?
[04:09] <Plantain> KI4IKL: haha, that box isn't, and never will be on the internet :P
[04:09] <GrueTamer> Trae: because the cli is probably easier and faster :)
[04:09] <orbisvicis> there is sudo gedit /etc/fstab : )
[04:09] <GrueTamer> WARNING: possibly biased response above
[04:09] <GrueTamer> (mine)
[04:09] <soyporti> does anyone install Need For Speed Most Wanted using Wine??
[04:09] <Plantain> Only machines exposed are OSX and Solaris
[04:09] <Trae> GrueTamer, I can type apt-get install foo quickly but there are still add/remove gui tools in Ubuntu
[04:09] <KI4IKL> Good Idea :P...It's sad when you can think about the internet and the computer tries to crash itself to save the time...
[04:09] <GrueTamer> Trae: try synaptic
[04:10] <PanzerMKZ> that is bad
[04:10] <Trae> GrueTamer, heh, you illustrated my point for me.
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, what about nfs-common
[04:10] <Trae> anyway
[04:10] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, it is a web server thing - so I would imagine you don't want it or nfs -
[04:10] <Trae> I'll RTFM
[04:10] <Trae> *sigh*
[04:10] <GrueTamer> lol
[04:10] <soyporti> GrueTamer: have you install Need For Speed Most Wanted using wine??
[04:10] <GrueTamer> hold on
[04:10] <GrueTamer> soyporti: no
[04:10] <MenZa> Trae: ok, try writing the following then: /dev/sdb1 /mnt ext3 rw,auto,user,exec 0 0
[04:10] <thoreauputic_> Paddy_EIRE: nfs-common is a client, not a server
[04:10] <GrueTamer> do what MenZa said
[04:10] <Paddy_EIRE> thoreauputic_, ok
[04:10] <Trae> MenZa, shouldn't I ascertain if the drive is ext3 first?
[04:11] <Yggdrasil> ok, can somone please help me here been dealing with this for a while http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:11] <soyporti> oh ok
[04:11] <Trae> MenZa, and how would I do that?
[04:11] <ompaul> thoreauputic_, is it running ==- Paddy_EIRE is it running - where are you pulling these names from and why?
[04:11] <MenZa> Trae: I thought you'd already established that
[04:11] <GrueTamer> Trae: enter that line into your /etc/fstab file
[04:11] <askand> jrib: what command do I use?
[04:11] <EvilBro> Anyone here who wants to help me in a private channel?
[04:11] <GrueTamer> like, make a new line and that should be the line
[04:11] <MenZa> Trae: do sudo fdisk -l
[04:11] <MenZa> Then tell me what System it states /dev/sdb1 is
[04:11] <Danux_> Ubuntu is not even connecting to wireless when there is no key or encryption =(
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, you told me to use bum, oh dear what have I done now
[04:11] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE just paste that again ps awux > foo and again
[04:11] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, nothing I imagine
[04:11] <Trae>  /dev/sdb1               1       19457   156288321   83  Linux
[04:11] <Trae> ahh there we go
[04:11] <jrib> askand: same one you use in the terminal,  gmplayer dvd://   maybe?
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, ok, gonna restart
[04:12] <MenZa> I'll... assume that's ext3
[04:12] <MenZa> hmm
[04:12] <thoreauputic_> Paddy_EIRE: hmm - i might be wrong about nfs-common but I think without nfs-kernel-server it won't act as a server
[04:12] <MenZa> two secs, checking fdisk
[04:12] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, I think you have gotten really confused and should take a little break to be honest
[04:12] <GrueTamer> Trae: try sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb instead
[04:12] <GrueTamer> that should tell you the file system type
[04:13] <Trae> got it, thanks gang :)
[04:13] <thoreauputic_> ompaul: I'm not even confused but I am taking a break right now ;)
[04:13] <Yggdrasil> ok, can somone please help me here been dealing with this for a while http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:13] <Trae> MenZa, GrueTamer thanks
[04:13] <GrueTamer> your welcome
[04:13] <MenZa> No worries.
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, you are correct but I would at least like to get rid of 1 or 2 of these things so I know what I am at the next time I come to this channel
[04:13] <Yggdrasil> i have 17g avaliable but im out of space ?
[04:13] <kitche> !offtopic | PanzerMKZ
[04:13] <ubotu> PanzerMKZ: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:14] <Yggdrasil> i sure would liek to fix this
[04:14] <askand> jrib: doesnt seem to work..it opens but its not playing the dvd.should I add something to the command?
[04:15] <mwe> Browsing a mirror with some .deb files I also saw some .udeb files. What are the .udeb files?
[04:15] <daveb_syd> Hi.  does anybody know where I can get some help with the iptables ubuntu source package?
[04:15] <PanzerMKZ> wow I am offtopic
[04:15] <MenZa> !offtopic | PanzerMKZ
[04:16] <ubotu> PanzerMKZ: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:16] <Yggdrasil> is this because of the size of my swap space ?  http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:16] <PanzerMKZ> wow I am offtopic
[04:16] <ompaul> PanzerMKZ, so are you going to be ontopic now?
[04:16] <DJ-_-> it kild ma stuff!!!!!!!
[04:16] <johnnytang24> so anyone know why ubuntu would hang when booting up after 'Running /scripts/init-bottom\ndone'?  It doesn't matter whether I boot regular, in single user, or use an old kernel, and I tried all the boot options..  I don't know where to begin fixing this problem.
[04:17] <VirtuoS> enyone to knows why updates don`t start?
[04:17] <DJ-_-> oh no....some script to remove kubuntu juz destroyed some gnome stuff
[04:17] <Jack_> well it took wellover 4hrs, but i fixed my laptop :)
[04:17] <Yggdrasil> is there a cli way to resize partitions ?
[04:17] <Jack_> Had to completely dissassemble it, take off heatsink, new thermal paste, new ram and now it works :)
[04:17] <jrib> askand: does 'mplayer dvd://' work?
[04:17] <DJ-_-> bbl..i havta reinstall everything now :S
[04:17] <kitche> Yggdrasil: parted maybe?
[04:17] <thoreauputic_> Yggdrasil: parted should do it ( gparted is a front end for it I think)
[04:18] <oslo> hi
[04:18] <Zorlin> [the g being short for graphical. or gnome] 
[04:18] <Jack_> avg cpu tmp down from 70 to 50
[04:18] <oslo>  i'd like to erase files i have twice or more on my hards drives, how can i do ? wich programs can i use ?
[04:18] <PanzerMKZ> DJ-_- the ubuntu server install not go so good?
[04:18] <Yggdrasil> ok
[04:18] <oslo> i use kde
[04:18] <kitche> thoreauputic_: gparted is it's own application
[04:18] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: before that i was removing the kde and xfce from my desktop
[04:18] <Yggdrasil> im assuimg that my swap space is why im getting this error
[04:18] <thoreauputic_> kitche: it doesn't use parted at all ?
[04:18] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: and it has messed my gnome up
[04:18] <PanzerMKZ> oh
[04:19] <thoreauputic_> kitche: interesting
[04:19] <PanzerMKZ> why not just a clean install of ubuntu server?
[04:19] <kitche> thoreauputic_: nope according to the gnome site it's is it's own
[04:19] <thoreauputic_> kitche: OK I sit corrected :)
[04:19] <DJ-_-> PanzerMKZ: i still didnt start with the server....i tried removing the kde and xfce from dis machine
[04:19] <artabrahao> hi, How Can I  chande directory and subdirectory do 666?
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24858/
[04:20] <DJ-_-> and accoriding to what popped up on the terminal it removed all the gnome stuff too
[04:20] <thoreauputic_> kitche: quite right - apt-cache depends gparted does not list parted at all - I learnt something, thanks :)
[04:20] <Chani> anyone here know much about lvm? I'm not sure what I have to do to prepare my kubuntu for switching to lvm
[04:20] <DJ-_-> bbl gotta reinstall :S:S:S:S
[04:21] <Chani> I'm planning to have my root partition inside lvm, so initrd has to work
[04:22] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, much more like an ordinary user
[04:22] <orbisvicis> right initrd in /boot (not in lvm) has to suport lvm ... or bios has to support lvm ... theres a 3rd option i forget
[04:22] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you are still using beryl and that does cost some clock cycles
[04:22] <gkijg> hi
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I think I may have encoutered many of those probs trying to make a small network at home
[04:22] <Chani> if I put my swap partition inside lvm, will I still be able to hibernate?
[04:22] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, is it alot
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, the beryl i mean
[04:23] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, not too much
[04:23] <UNDERsoN> Help me I used gtf 1280 1024 85 but in section in gnome preferences theris no changes I added 2 modline ( also for 1024 768 100)
[04:23] <UNDERsoN> what's wrong
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, oh, ok
[04:23] <Myrtti> KI4IKL: either use your "connect to server" on Places, or mount the drives
[04:23] <KI4IKL> Okay, thanks.
[04:23] <orbisvicis> use mkinitrd to load the lvm module for the kernel -> about sleep no idea
[04:23] <KI4IKL> And that will work because I have it installed, right?
[04:23] <KI4IKL> samba that is.
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I do not understand why there are so many Kde things there, I have k3b installed..
[04:24] <Myrtti> KI4IKL: I'd think so, the latter needs atleast sambafs
[04:24] <Myrtti> KI4IKL: I'd use mounting, they work on command line then too
[04:24] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, would that cause a major decrease in performance
[04:24] <artabrahao> hi, How Can I  chande directory and subdirectory do 666?
[04:24] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, well you choose a kde application it needs a supporting environment to run, it will cause some, and if you sum the somes you will find the problem
[04:24] <UNDERsoN> Should I add something to change resolution and rate
[04:24] <codev> artabrahao, chmod
[04:24] <Myrtti> artabrahao: chmod -R 666 directory
[04:24] <yondie> guys i need a lil bit enlitghment on how to compile the aztech wl230 usb donggler
[04:25] <Yggdrasil> can somone please help me ?
[04:25] <yondie> here`s the log of the error http://rafb.net/p/4O5C1S95.html
[04:25] <M3G4crux> \join #latex
[04:25] <M3G4crux> sorry, hi to all
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, would it be difficult to remove all the kde stuff
[04:25] <Myrtti> !away | Plantain
[04:25] <ubotu> Plantain: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[04:25] <UNDERsoN> !gtf
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[04:25] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, what we don't have is figures for top, please run top and cut and paste the top 5 lines into a pastebin
[04:26] <Yggdrasil> guesse not huh
[04:26] <Yggdrasil> lame
[04:26] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, I have said it before, in your case a reinstall would be the best idea, don't add anything until you know how to take it down
[04:26] <anandanbu> can somebody help me to install new fonts in Ubuntu 7.04
[04:26] <UNDERsoN> Who can tell me what's wrong why theris no new rate for my monitor after adding modeline
[04:27] <Fjodor> Does anyone know how to get around bug 110585?
[04:27] <ShackJack> anandanbu: create a .fonts folder in your /home/user directory and drop the fonts in there :)
[04:27] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you are not building on a solid foundation
[04:27] <Yggdrasil> HELP@@@@@  http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:27] <orbisvicis> Chani, !think!you should be good as long as you dont put swap on lvm
[04:27] <orbisvicis> !think
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about think - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <orbisvicis> !hopless
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[04:28] <orbisvicis> !hopeless
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[04:28] <Chani> orbisvicis: why? I was hoping I could put swap on lvm
[04:28] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[04:28] <artabrahao> Myrtti> thanks
[04:28] <UNDERsoN> Who can help me change fresh rate?
[04:28] <ompaul> !resolution | UNDERsoN
[04:28] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[04:28] <ubotu> UNDERsoN: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:29] <ShackJack> anandanbu: It's a hidden folder, you have to refresh the fonts cache to get the fonts to show up, but easiesit way to do that is log out & back in again...
[04:29] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24859/
[04:29] <anandanbu> how do i create that .fonts folder
[04:29] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, the stuff above that is what I want
[04:29] <DeuZ> opa
[04:30] <ShackJack> anandanbu: Nautilus - in home directory right click - create folder... name it .fonts - it's hidden by default so use ctrl+H to show hidden folders
[04:30] <orbisvicis> for res, check out xrandr
[04:30] <superkirbyartist> !scanner
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[04:30] <Yggdrasil> PLEASE HELP@@@@@  http://www.pastebin.ca/552870
[04:30] <askand>  jrib:  no that doesnt wven open mplayer..just for a second
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, would I not learn more if I was to fix what I have.... I have just reinstalled so many times its crazy! almost seems like every time there is a problem i have to reinstall
[04:30] <ompaul> !patience
[04:30] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:30] <orbisvicis> but xrandr is only temporary
[04:30] <anandanbu> ok after copying the fonts in it am i supposed to restart the system
[04:30] <Jack_> Hey everyone, i'm using the evdev driver for my MX revolution and it works near perfectly except for one problem, if i change the port the reciever is connected to i have to change my xorg config to start X, i often move between locations and use different hubs/docking stations and would rather not have to edit xorg.conf each time i change, is there a way to make evdev autodetect the device?
[04:30] <_jason> askand: does it work when you type it in a terminal?
[04:31] <ShackJack> anandanbu: you don't have to restart - just log out and back in again --- there's a command line to refresh font cache without having to do that but it escapes me now...
[04:31] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, don't change three or four things at a time, take your time with each and make sure you can back out
[04:31] <askand> _jason: no
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, and I cant get small things to work like sharing a file for 1 laptop to another on a wireless network
[04:31] <Smegzor> I have just done a dist upgrade to 6.10 and now its telling me that /boot is almost full.  It has 1.4Mb left.  Is there anything I can do to free up space in boot?
[04:31] <orbisvicis> chani, hibernate copies the ram to the swap ... so youd need something that can read lvm to restore it
[04:31] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I really need to start writing things down
[04:31] <Yggdrasil> paddy_eire whats your problem ?
[04:31] <askand> _jason: gmplayer dvd:// seems to work..it opens mplayer but doesnt play the dvd..
[04:31] <ugarit> my edgy and then my feisty almost always claims that my laptop was not shutdown correctly and that the filesystem needs to be checked and fsck always get an exit status of 1.  I am shutting down correctly and why am I usually getting the exit status of 1?
[04:31] <superkirbyartist> I am having a hard time dual-booting Mac OS 9 and Ubuntu on my iMac.  Can someone help please?
[04:32] <Chani> orbisvicis: yes, but I was hoping initrd would fill that need
[04:32] <orbisvicis> but I dont know much .... maybe the "thing that restores it" has default support for lvm
[04:32] <anandanbu> ok Shackjack thank you very much for your help
[04:32] <ShackJack> anandanbu: Oh, it's sudo fc-cache -fv - type in terminal - but easier to log out and back in...
[04:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, so this is a good reason to start afresh, in all seriousness and follow the guides slowly and faithfully
[04:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Yggdrasil, ME, lol (p.i.c.n.i.c.) Problem In Chair Not In Computer lol
[04:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, help.ubuntu.com has all the docs you would ever need
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> i see
[04:32] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, as a standard user
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> well i sure wish somone could help me, been in here askign same question for like a week
[04:32] <anandanbu> i'll better try the command line
[04:32] <Yggdrasil> fucking sucks
[04:33] <superkirbyartist> !language > Yggdrasil
[04:33] <Yggdrasil> yea yea
[04:33] <Yggdrasil> !help
[04:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:33] <Yggdrasil> > me
[04:33] <gr33npho3nix> Yggdrasil: its not paid support, whats your problem about
[04:33] <rinky> anyone know how I can output a debian package size from the command line? (if I have yet to download it?)
[04:34] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, on the surface does there appear to be alot wrong with my setup?? as for using it for day to day things it performs really well :) I had been quite satisfied with it until that overheating scared the hell out of me
[04:34] <mrsn0> rinky apt-cache show <package>
[04:34] <Smegzor> My /boot is full and I want to do another dist upgrade to fiesty.  Should I go ahead and upgrade or panic now?
[04:34] <mrsn0> Size:
[04:34] <superkirbyartist> Let me repeat myself: Mac OS 9 + Ubuntu dual boot help PLEASE.
[04:34] <Plantain> Sorry for the away thing, I didn't realise it was outside just one channel
[04:35] <ShackJack> Smegzor: you can resize partition with gparted
[04:35] <Jack_> !patience > superkirbyartist
[04:35] <mrsn0> superkirbyartist www.ubuntuforums.org > search
[04:35] <mrsn0> you will find information there as it has been asked many times
[04:35] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: if you remove old kernels that should free some psace
[04:35] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, I don't have the information to make that call, ergo my suggest
[04:35] <Jack_> whee finally got my quad boot working on my desktop, OSX,vista,XP,ubuntu
[04:35] <gr33npho3nix> s/psace/space
[04:35] <rinky> mrsn0: many thanks, that worked great
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I understand
[04:35] <mrsn0> glad it helped rinky
[04:36] <ompaul> got to do stuff
[04:36] <orbisvicis> later
[04:36] <kamiro87> i remember when i was playing w distros. i had 1 /home partition and 5 distros installed. plus xp and osx. grub/lilo is awesom eh?
[04:37] <massctrl> hi all, does ubuntu server have xen packages ?
[04:37] <mrsn0> massctrl yea
[04:37] <z1pp1ty> anybody know why grub-set-default has no effect on my grub boot order
[04:37] <jrib> askand: sorry about that, I missed everything you said recently
[04:37] <Smegzor> gr33npho3nix, ok in boot I have 4 versions of everything, so if I delete all but the latest version, I'll still have a working computer? :)
[04:38] <kitche> z1pp1ty: it sets the default os that you want to boot into if you don't press a key
[04:38] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: don't delete anything, apt-get remove old kernels
[04:38] <z1pp1ty> kitche: yes, but it doesn't work
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, I have alot I would like to backup and practically zero storage media, although I do Have a tower pc running winxp/feisty/opensuse (which works very well) is it very difficult for me to send things that I would really need to keep to that?
[04:38] <KI4IKL> Hey, I am setting samba up, i went to connect to my windows shared files and it asks for a password, not the pass from my linux machine will work, and th epassword from the windows wont either.
[04:38] <KI4IKL> What password would it be?
[04:38] <askand> jrib: "gmplayer dvd://" opens up mplayer but doesnt play the movie...
[04:38] <mrsn0> massctrl check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine
[04:38] <massctrl> how is the handling of init scripts done in ubuntu? is it the same as in debian or different ?
[04:38] <ShackJack> Hi all - what kernel is everyone on in Feisty? - I seem to be stuck at 20.14
[04:38] <Smegzor> oh ok  I might need a little more guidance..  unless thats really simple.
[04:38] <kitche> z1pp1ty: well how are you using grub-set-default exactly?
[04:38] <ericrost> anyone in here with shorewall chops?
[04:38] <jrib> askand: does it work in a terminal?
[04:39] <z1pp1ty> kitche: sudo grub-set-default 3 ; sudo reboot
[04:39] <gr33npho3nix> no thats not the acutal command
[04:39] <z1pp1ty> kitche: it always tries to boot to grub 0
[04:39] <gr33npho3nix> pm me and i'll give you better steps
[04:39] <askand> jrib: no
[04:39] <askand> jrib: same thing there
[04:39] <jrib> askand: but 'mplayer dvd://' works?
[04:39] <adnan> ji
[04:40] <ericrost> I have  a 3 homed firewall that I can't get dhcp leases from on the local interface when I enable my shorewall.. I can get full connectivity from local when I get the lease before starting the shorewall... any ideas?
[04:40] <adnan> hi
[04:40] <ericrost> and full connectivity once I then start the shorewall
[04:40] <ericrost> just can't get new leases once its running
[04:40] <Smegzor> to remove a kernel, what would the command line look like?   Mainly the last part that identifies the kernel.
[04:40] <jrib> askand: here, both 'mplayer dvd://' and 'gmplayer dvd://' work in a terminal
[04:41] <adnan> I was curious which AVG flavor to download to run on ubuntu
[04:41] <askand> jrib: mplayer dvd:// doesnt work..opens up a window for a second..nothing more..
[04:41] <ShackJack> Smegzor: I would just use synaptic - look for linux-
[04:41] <kitche> z1pp1ty: does your menu.lst have default saved in it?
[04:41] <jrib> askand: so how do you play DVDs in mplayer?
[04:41] <Smegzor> ok  I'll do that.
[04:41] <ShackJack> Smegzor: you'll see version numbers, etc...
[04:42] <ShackJack> Smegzor: use left most column to sort on already installed software... :)
[04:42] <Bluhd> I need some help getting rid of this warning message from mdadm every time I update my kernel
[04:42] <Bluhd> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
[04:42] <Bluhd> W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[04:42] <Bluhd> W: mdadm: please read /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz .
[04:42] <Bluhd> W: mdadm: no arrays defined in configuration file.
[04:42] <Bluhd> W: mdadm: falling back to emergency procedure in initramfs.
[04:42] <jrib> !paste | Bluhd
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[04:42] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: use uname -a to figure out what version you are running
[04:42] <Bluhd> jrib: that was the entire paste
[04:42] <jrib> Bluhd: yes, but don't paste it in the channel
[04:42] <Smegzor> thanks for all this help.  i'm still a linux newbie
[04:43] <WillLuongo> can anyone tell me a command to list services running from the command prompt?
[04:43] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: then run dpkg -l | grep linux-image to see what you have installed
[04:43] <amaache> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/6733501.stm
[04:43] <gr33npho3nix> then sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.20-11-generic for example
[04:43] <ShackJack> Smegzor: be very carefuly when removing kernel stuff - make sure it's just the older versions... and your current version works normally...
[04:44] <jrib> !offtopic | amaache
[04:44] <ubotu> amaache: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:44] <mrsn0> WillLuongo ps aux lists all running processes
[04:44] <Bluhd> I don't have any RAID arrays, and it seems like it is expecting to find some
[04:44] <ShackJack> What kernel is everyone on? Mine's stick on 2.6.20.14 ? (386)
[04:44] <diabolix> I just formated a usb hard drive to ext3, but now when it gets automounted, i don't have read/write permission... anyone know how i can fix this?
[04:44] <mrsn0> 2.6.21 here :)
[04:44] <Smegzor> well its my file server.  If it all goes pear-shaped, can I lose any personal files?  How safe is this?
[04:45] <WillLuongo> thank you mrsn0
[04:45] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: if your on feisty sudo apt-get install autoremove does a nice job
[04:45] <mrsn0> your wellcome WillLuongo
[04:45] <ShackJack> mrsn0: you got that throught regular updates in Feisty?
[04:45] <Smegzor> I'm on 6.10 now
[04:45] <mrsn0> ShackJack nope, self done
[04:45] <ShackJack> Ah, O.K.  WHat's everyone using regular apt updates got? .14 or higher?
[04:45] <ShackJack> mrsn0: ^
[04:45] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: as long as you don't use the rm command you should be safe
[04:46] <Smegzor> I won't use that.
[04:46] <gr33npho3nix> apt only removes packages
[04:46] <Bluhd> ShackJack: 2.6.20-16-realtime and 2.6.20-16-generic for me
[04:46] <mrsn0> 2.6.20-16 is latest in feisty ShackJack
[04:46] <gr33npho3nix> so no personal files, if the system becomes unbootable you can always get in with the live cd and view/copy files
[04:46] <MenZa> How do I format a drive?
[04:46] <ShackJack> Bluhd: mrsn0 Hmmm wonder why mine doesn't update on a aptitude update?
[04:47] <Bluhd> ShackJack: did you reboot?
[04:47] <mrsn0> ShackJack you said you are running edgy/6.10
[04:47] <mrsn0> which has 2.6.17-11 as latest i believe
[04:47] <ShackJack> mrsn0: No Feisty 6.14 - Bluhd I have yes...
[04:47] <Bluhd> hmm
[04:47] <mrsn0> aptitude update only updates the package llist
[04:47] <gr33npho3nix> MenZa: termina or gui (gparted)
[04:47] <mrsn0> 6.14? feisty is 7.04 :)
[04:47] <ShackJack> mrsn0: sorry men upgrade (or dist-upgrade) same effect
[04:47] <MenZa> wonderful, gr33npho3nix
[04:48] <ShackJack> mrsn0: shorthand for 2.6.20-14...
[04:48] <gr33npho3nix> MenZa: i take it you found gparted
[04:48] <asdf_> can anyone tell me how to make a window stay on top always even it's not built in -- like for Songbird?
[04:48] <mrsn0> ShackJack im not sure the kernel gets upgraded automatically with aptitude upgrade, at least on debian it doesn't
[04:48] <askand> jrib: what output video driver do u have in mplayer?
[04:48] <ShackJack> mrsn0: It had in the past.. had -12, -13, etc... with Feisty...
[04:48] <gr33npho3nix> mrsn0: it usually comes through a dist-upgrade
[04:48] <jrib> askand: I use xv
[04:48] <z1pp1ty> kitche: yes
[04:49] <z1pp1ty> I'll pastebin it
[04:49] <Bluhd> So can anyone help me with my problem? The last time I tried asking about this, nobody even bothered to look into it
[04:49] <gr33npho3nix> i think i saw it once go through upgrade
[04:49] <MenZa> gr33npho3nix: I did indeed
[04:49] <Smegzor> ok I have found my kernel files in synaptic.  I want to do a complete removal of all but the last two?  I figure I shouldn't remove the version I just upgraded from just yet.
[04:49] <askand> jrib: hrm now I cant play dvds in mplayer >_< strange..
[04:49] <mrsn0> gr33npho3nix yea, i have only noticed i ton ubuntu with the update nofifier
[04:49] <gr33npho3nix> Smegzor: sounds good
[04:49] <ShackJack> Bluhd: problem being?
[04:49] <mrsn0> Smegzor first of all be 101% sure the new kernel isn't causing any problems
[04:49] <gr33npho3nix> Bluhd: don't ask to ask, just do it
[04:50] <Bluhd> ShackJack: mdadm is giving me warnings because of a lack of defined arrays or something
[04:50] <mrsn0> there is no badness by leaving older versions of the kerenl install
[04:50] <Bluhd> gr33npho3nix: I already did.
[04:50] <gr33npho3nix> mrsn0: hes leaving his last kernel as well
[04:50] <Bluhd> that was the first thing I did when I entered the channel
[04:50] <ShackJack> Bluhd: ah that I can't help you with :)
[04:50] <Bluhd> I'm trying to figure out how to shut mdadm up because I don't have RAID to begin with
[04:50] <mrsn0> Bluhd tell us more about your probllem
[04:50] <Bluhd> k
[04:50] <Rubiks99> hi, for some reason CGI.pm isnt installed on my linux server. when i try to install it, i get this :
[04:50] <gr33npho3nix> Bluhd: sorry I don't have an experience with that either
[04:50] <Rubiks99> root@ubuntuServer:/var/www/cgi-bin# apt-get install CGI.pm
[04:50] <z1pp1ty> kitche: http://pastebin.ca/552986
[04:50] <Rubiks99> Reading package lists... Done
[04:51] <Rubiks99> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:51] <Rubiks99> E: Couldn't find package CGI.pm
[04:51] <Rubiks99> does wanyone know what this means?
[04:51] <Rubiks99> *sry, for not usung pastebin
[04:51] <mrsn0> Rubiks99 most likely its called a different name
[04:51] <gr33npho3nix> Rubiks99: do apt-cache search CGI
[04:51] <mrsn0> Rubiks99 is it a pam module or something ?
[04:51] <Smegzor> mrsn0, even if it is, I want to upgrade to fiesty immediately anyway.  Does it matter if its got problems?  Also this is a file server only.
[04:51] <gr33npho3nix> and see if you can find the package name
[04:51] <Rubiks99> its CGI.pm
[04:52] <mrsn0> Rubiks99 assuming you are using feisty, see what packages contain that file at http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=CGI.pm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[04:52] <gr33npho3nix> a perl module, right?
[04:52] <mrsn0> perl-modules it seems like :)
[04:52] <Bluhd> pastebin seems fscked so I used cpp.sf.net:
[04:52] <Bluhd> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=37028
[04:52] <mrsn0> Smegzor please check the upgrade notes
[04:52] <Smegzor> will do
[04:52] <ShackJack> mrsn0: Bluhd: I think my problem with older image was I had linux-image-generic not installed...
[04:53] <Bluhd> ShackJack: metapackages are your friend :D
 I'm trying to figure out how to shut mdadm up because I don't have RAID to begin with <-- aptitude purge mdadm if you don't use raid :)
[04:53] <Rubiks99> gr33npho: its a common gateway itnerface for perl with html
[04:53] <Bluhd> mrsn0: I think mdadm is part of the core system though
[04:53] <mrsn0> Bluhd just be 100% sure you do not use raid, because if you are and you remove/purge that package, you will fail to boot
[04:54] <mrsn0> feisty (admin): tool to administer Linux MD arrays (software RAID)
[04:54] <BlueDevil> will feisty work on an core2duo/Asus P5B Deluxe?
[04:54] <johnnytang24> how can I get /dev/device-mapper ?
[04:54] <mrsn0> BlueDevil yes
[04:54] <BlueDevil> cool
[04:54] <BlueDevil> 2.6.21?
[04:54] <Bluhd> BlueDevil: it works on almost all CPUs
[04:55] <mrsn0> lots of fixes for the marvel chipset on the newer core 2 duo motherboards were added too 2.6.18 BlueDevil
[04:55] <johnnytang24> I mounted /dev/device-mapper/root-root in /mnt, chroot to /mnt, then how can I get the device mapper back in the new /dev?
[04:55] <BlueDevil> should i expect anything not working? LAN? Onboard sound?
[04:55] <BlueDevil> mrsn0: thanks
[04:55] <mrsn0> feisty has 2.6.20~ so you should be fine :)
[04:55] <mrsn0> Bluhd did you check you are not using software raid?
[04:56] <Bluhd> mrsn0: I am 100% sure I use no raid in any kind whatsoever
[04:56] <mrsn0> ok fine Bluhd , just checking :-)
[04:56] <kitche> z1pp1ty: ok when you set the default it seems like you have to run savedefault as well
[04:56] <Bluhd> mrsn0: besides, if there aren't any arrays defined (hence the warnings) then it would have screwed itself by now anyway
[04:56] <BlueDevil> anyone running xen on core2duo?
[04:57] <mrsn0> BlueDevil amd64 here
[04:57] <herbaliser> i have enabled TLS support on proftpd do i connect over port 21?
[04:57] <mrsn0> xen works great
[04:57] <johnnytang24> I mounted /dev/mapper/root-root in /mnt, chroot to /mnt, then how can I get the device mapper back in the new /dev?
[04:57] <squ1> after i type ps aux ,i found there were 3 pppd there , is it OK ?
[04:57] <BlueDevil> mrsn0: do you have hw video accel under xen?
[04:58] <mrsn0> BlueDevil with nvidia-glx, yes
[04:58] <Bluhd> I'm going to reboot. brb
[04:58] <Rubiks99> gr33npho3nix, apt-cache search CGI.pm results in "perl-modules - Core perl modules
[04:58] <XiCillin> is there a way to tar -xzvf everything in a directory? its full of tar.gz files
[04:58] <BlueDevil> herbaliser: yes
[04:59] <herbaliser> what client should i use to connect to it ftps
[04:59] <KI4IKL> What is the command to see what version of linux I have?
[04:59] <KI4IKL> version of ubuntu more rather.
[04:59] <BlueDevil> XiCillin: try tar -zxvf dir/* -c destdir
[04:59] <matux> how can i connect to a proxy server?!!
[04:59] <kitche> !version | KI4IKL
[04:59] <ubotu> KI4IKL: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[05:00] <matux> i hava  a dsl connection but i wish to connect to an open proxy
[05:00] <Bluhd> back
[05:00] <Bluhd> I love how fast ubuntu boots
[05:01] <herbaliser> KI4IKL check the  /etc/lsb-release file
[05:01] <Bluhd> what's the difference between bin and sbin? I've noticed it for a while but I've never bothered to ask
[05:01] <z1pp1ty> kitche: where would i run savedefault?
[05:01] <BlueDevil> herbaliser: recent versions of ncftp should have TLS support
[05:01] <Bluhd> z1pp1ty: savedefault is a line in your menu.lst for grub iirc
[05:02] <matux> how can i connecto to a proxy server
[05:02] <BlueDevil> Bluhd: bin - normal executables; sbin - admin/root/system executables
[05:02] <Bluhd> BlueDevil: thanks
[05:02] <WillLuongo> Does anyone here have experience with ddclient or ez-ipconfig?
[05:02] <BlueDevil> yw
[05:03] <BlueDevil> WillLuongo: for dyndns?
[05:03] <WillLuongo> BlueDevil: Yes
[05:03] <n31984b> hi! What's the best multi-language dictionary for ubuntu feisty?
[05:03] <WillLuongo> BlueDevil: Basically my problem right now is that it is updating with the local IP rather than my WAN IP.
[05:03] <Jack_> whats the command to run glxgears and display fps?
[05:04] <kitche> z1pp1ty: nevermind your menu.lst as it setup that way already
[05:04] <Jack_> nevermind
[05:04] <BlueDevil> WillLuongo: I use updatedd
[05:04] <WillLuongo> BlueDevil: Is that a package I can get from apt-get/
[05:04] <WillLuongo> ?
[05:05] <BlueDevil> WillLuongo: i can't find it on dapper
[05:05] <BlueDevil> maybe it's in feisty
[05:05] <Rubiks99> alright, how do i make perl see a perl modul? it says: " go into the directory with CGI.pl, then type " perl Makefil.PL, make, make install. however i get an error thats "cant find Makefile.PL"
[05:07] <Covi_cd> nas de nuevo
[05:07] <Rubiks99> or where is the perl 5 libary directory?, maybe i need to copy the CGI.pm file in there and then type perl Makefile.pl
[05:09] <n31984b> What's the best multi-language dictionary for ubuntu feisty?
[05:09] <matux> how can i connect to a proxy
[05:09] <x1jmp> n31984b: I recommend stardict
[05:10] <n31984b> thanks x1jmp
[05:10] <Slike> hi, i'm looking for a color picking tool, like nattyware's pixie for windows, which is a tool that tells you which color (hex-value) you're pointing at
[05:10] <Memories> Hello everyone
[05:10] <Memories> i'm facing problems with firefox
[05:10] <Memories> everytime i open a few sites the pc freezes with 100 % cpu use
[05:10] <Memories> im using EDGY
[05:10] <redcard> Slike: Gimp has that, I think
[05:10] <Memories> is tht normal ?
[05:11] <x1jmp> Can someone tell me why it's not possible to use wpa without roaming enabled in the network manager?
[05:12] <Slike> redcard: i know, but it's not that convenient since i have to create a screenshot, open it with gimp to find out the color with the picker. pixie works during your regular desktop work and permanently shows colors in a kind of a popup
[05:13] <x1jmp> In the manual configuration I can only select WEP, but in "Connect to Other Wireless Network..." WPA is possible
[05:13] <josue> #ubuntu-es
[05:13] <josue> aloooooo
[05:13] <josue> como me voy al espaoL?
[05:14] <Slike> josue: english please
[05:14] <josue> como me voy al servidor spanish o espaol?
[05:14] <josue> alguien me diga como lo hago>!!!!
[05:14] <StoneNote> !es > josue
[05:14] <redcard> Slike: Hmm..
[05:14] <n31984b> josue: #ubuntu.es creo yo
[05:15] <josue> #ubuntu.es
[05:15] <josue> no asi no es
[05:15] <josue> #ubuntu-es
[05:15] <KI4IKL> On the new ubuntu installer, it loads on that one screen with th ebar, then goes to a black screen...any ideas?
[05:15] <josue> #ubuntu-es
[05:16] <josue> ta mre
[05:16] <Wips> I'm trying to share my movies with a friend, but I have several problems. first of all I cant share it, because it won't let me, second. He cant enter my computer on the network, and I dont know which username and password he's supposed to log in with.
[05:16] <Rubiks99> to isntall perl modules, i am folloing this tutorial http://www.cpan.org/modules/INSTALL.html, however for steps c and d i cant do linux complains about errors
[05:16] <pyenos> hello, i've written a small but useful script for switching between networks. here it is http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/
[05:16] <gogo_> which os does your frient use?
[05:16] <ShackJack> Odd ubuntu question - how come synaptic doesn't pickup the system fonts I have defined (located in .fonts) - but uses the default sans fonts.. All the other apps use the right fonts (for menus, display, etc...)
[05:16] <Wips> gogo_: He's on a windows
[05:17] <gogo_> and you are on Ubuntu?
[05:17] <Wips> gogo_: Windows xp, sorry :)
[05:17] <Wips> yes
[05:17] <redcard> Slike: kcoloredit does it.
[05:17] <gogo_> ok so you just have to install and config samba-server
[05:17] <pyenos> plz tell me what you think. http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/netdialog-0.1.tar.gz
[05:17] <iMayKnow> ShackJack, when you gksudo something it uses whatever the root user has defined for fonts and colors, so it won't use your themes or fonts
[05:17] <gogo_> to allow him to view your shares
[05:18] <pyenos>  	NetDialog is a simple shell script command line tool that makes it very easy to quickly change between multiple preset ethernet network settings. You can, for example, quickly switch from your home connection to your workplace connection just with a single command. Configuration is very easy, intuitive and flexible and done on a single configuration file.
[05:18] <Slike> redcard: great, i'll try that one :)
[05:18] <ShackJack> iMayKnow: Ah, of course, thanks...
[05:18] <Wips> gogo_: Is SMB short for sambaserver? because then I already have
[05:18] <pyenos> you can get NetDialog from http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/
[05:18] <gogo_> yeap that's tha one
[05:18] <Wips> gogo_: It told me I had to do it when I tried sharing the first time.. but thing is, when I share now.. the harddisk won't give me the rights
[05:18] <ShackJack> iMayKnow: I can of course just make a symbolic link in root to my user fonts which should solve it :)
[05:18] <pyenos> plz try http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/
[05:19] <cire888> hi,
[05:19] <pyenos> does anyone of you had a wish to easily switch between many network settings? this may be the easy solution. it is called NetDialog and you can get it from http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/
[05:19] <Slike> redcard: perfect tool, thanks :)
[05:19] <cire888> I'm currently running Ubuntu as a live CD
[05:20] <gogo_> it doesn't give you rights to make the folder shared or it doesn't allow you to view the shared folder?
[05:20] <cire888> and trying to install
[05:20] <redcard> No problem :)
[05:20] <cire888> but I'm stuck on
[05:20] <cire888> the world map/time zones page
[05:20] <cire888> where is the next button?
[05:20] <cire888> I'm stumped :[
[05:20] <ShackJack> cire888: maybe off the screen because running in lowres?
[05:20] <Wips> when I try to share gogo_, it says "Folder content cannot be shown" error accessing: (the folder I'm trying to share).
[05:20] <cire888> yeah,,
[05:21] <cire888> but the highest I can change is 800x600
[05:21] <pyenos> NetDialog is a simple shell script command line tool that makes it very easy to quickly change between multiple preset ethernet network settings. You can, for example, quickly switch from your home connection to your workplace connection just with a single command. Configuration is very easy, intuitive and flexible and done on a single configuration file.
[05:21] <cire888> I'm running a live CD right now
[05:21] <gogo_> are you owner?
[05:21] <pyenos> http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/
[05:21] <Wips> gogo_: And it says "No access"
[05:21] <Wips> gogo_: Owner of what? :O
[05:21] <clouder`grr> How do I install steam on wine when all they offer is a .msi ?
[05:21] <Paddy_EIRE> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24864/ I think it looks alot healthier
[05:22] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[05:22] <gogo_> of the folder you whanna share
[05:22] <cire888> I'm currently running ubuntu as a live cd, but can't get past the world map/time zones page because of my screen resolution. Can someone help? I can't seem to change it above 800x600.
[05:22] <Wips> gogo_: What do you mean by owner? the hard drive is inside my computer.. so I suppose I'm the owner..
[05:22] <kitche> clouder`grr: it's the same as a .exe think wine works with .msi by default now if not you gotta install the .msi tools also
[05:22] <cire888> I'm trying to install it
[05:22] <naknomik> OK. I finally have my Ubuntu desktop now! It looks so good I'm considering not to make this machine dual boot. But for a few things, I'm still not sure about.
[05:23] <pyenos> http://www.geocities.com/ggggunit7777/
[05:23] <Crashed> Hey guys :)
[05:23] <Eric_Jardas> I am getting an error while trying to run a program with directfb, I get opening '/dev/fb0' ..failed. How can I fix this ?
[05:23] <cire888> I'm currently running ubuntu as a live cd, but can't get past the world map/time zones page because of my screen resolution. Can someone help? I can't seem to change it above 800x600.  I'm still trying to install right now.
[05:23] <naknomik> I do Video chat on yahoo with family members regularly, what alternatives do I have on Ububtu?
[05:23] <Crashed> I just install Ubuntu for the first time ever, is there a Getting Started file I could take a look at?
[05:23] <Crashed> Online or offline.
[05:24] <Crashed> I'd like to learn things like setting up users and changing the message when you enter the shell.
[05:24] <iMayKnow> cire888, do you mean that because the resolution is so small you can't see the buttons, or what?
[05:24] <naknomik> Crashed: Open firefox
[05:24] <cire888> its too big, so part of the window is off the screen
[05:24] <cire888> **wait
[05:24] <cire888> scratch that
[05:24] <gogo_> oh you don't know much about UNIX. Sorry for the confusion. the folder that you want to share, it is in your home folder. does it?
[05:24] <cire888> you're right, the res is too small -- 800.600
[05:25] <naknomik> What video and voice chat options are available on ubuntu?
[05:25] <cire888> how would I change the reslu above 800x600?
[05:25] <Eric_Jardas> I am getting an error while trying to run a program with directfb, I get opening '/dev/fb0' ..failed. How can I fix this ?
[05:26] <j1tters> cire888 System/Preferences/Screen Resolution
[05:26] <cire888> 800x600 is the highest,, I'm currently running a live CD
[05:26] <Wips> gogo_: It's ok. No, its not. It's on another hard drive. It's in /media/hdd1
[05:26] <craigBrxb> Hey -- I'm new at IRC -- sorry -- can I ask a question?
[05:26] <gogo_> wicth is a windows partition I suppose
[05:27] <Wips> its fat32
[05:27] <Eric_Jardas> craigBrxb, ask..
[05:27] <Wips> or vfat
[05:27] <j1tters> just ask craigBrxb
[05:27] <Elko> craigBrxb: What's your ticket number?
[05:27] <gogo_> okey. You must be root to make the folder shared
[05:27] <Wips> gogo_: yeh.. So I gotta do it in terminal then ?
[05:27] <craigBrxb> OK -- not a total noob -- CD audio worked great in earlier versions, but since Feisty, when I play CD, I get bursts of noise - screeching (more...)
[05:28] <gogo_> its the fastest way
[05:28] <Wips> ok.. so how? :)
[05:28] <herbaliser> i'm using fireftp to connect to ftpd server with tls enable , in the log file of fireftp i get the following 234 AUTH TLS successful
[05:28] <herbaliser>        PBSZ 0
[05:28] <herbaliser> 220 you're at home
[05:28] <herbaliser>        AUTH TLS
[05:28] <herbaliser> 234 AUTH TLS successful
[05:28] <herbaliser>        PBSZ 0 but i'm still unable to connect
[05:28] <craigBrxb> previously ripped FLAC files, MP3 -- these all play fine, but put a CD in the drive, and I get noise.  RIpping from CD gives me the same thing
[05:28] <gogo_> ok open the terminal and type sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:29] <craigBrxb> I have no ticket number -- please advise
[05:29] <Wips> gogo_:  yep
[05:29] <gogo_> are you familiar whith the vi editor?
[05:29] <Crashed> Guys, is there a way to update from desktop to server edition?
[05:30] <Wips> I know some of it. like pg up and pg down :P
[05:30] <KI4IKL> Where on the live cd is the installer for feisty???
[05:30] <Zorlin> Gday
[05:30] <platman> KI4IKL:  on the desktop
[05:30] <radhy_nherox_> hay
[05:30] <gogo_> ok my fault. Type Esc and then :q! . We'll do it from gedit
[05:31] <Crashed> How do you know if you have the Desktop or Server edition?
[05:31] <Crashed> :/
[05:31] <jrib> Crashed: do you have a gui?
[05:31] <gogo_> at the terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:31] <KI4IKL> platman, if I were to put this hd in a faster pc to install it...then put it back, would it mess it up too bad?
[05:32] <arant> Anyone who can tell me, how i can get accet to my shared folders from another computer. i can find my computer on the network and can get acces on shared folders on other windows computers, but when i try to open a folder on my computer i need to write a username and passwd that i dont know.
[05:32] <Wips> gogo_: Ok, I'm there
[05:32] <platman> KI4IKL:  i don't know. I've never tried that
[05:32] <Parmenion> guys, how do i completely remove all traces of wine+the apps installed via it?
[05:32] <gogo_> you've opened it whith the gedit?
[05:32] <nikitis> Can someone help me with installation?  I hit start installation and like at the first loading screen where the orange bar goes back and forth it freezes
[05:32] <Wips> gogo_: Yep :P knew how to do that
[05:32] <kitche> Parmenion: sudo apt-get remove wine then rm -r ~/.wine
[05:33] <cbdaqb> hello does anyone no if ps3 wifi works in Gutsy
[05:33] <gogo_> excelent. Now go to the first line wich starts with [
[05:33] <gogo_> and tell me the rest of the line
[05:34] <Wips> gogo_: You mean [global] ?
[05:34] <ShackJack> cbdaqb: try #ubuntu+1 channel...
[05:34] <gogo_> ok
[05:35] <cbdaqb> ok thank you
[05:35] <gogo_> go down at the next [] 
[05:35] <nikitis> Anyone?
[05:35] <Wips> thats the line: "# The following required a [profiles]  share to be setup on the"
[05:35] <yo2k> someone can tell me, how to setup modem smartlink on laptop acer aspire1400, ubuntu 7.04 ?
[05:36] <gogo_> it has to be at least one other...
[05:36] <nikitis> can ubuntu 6 be upgraded through aptitude?
[05:36] <Wips> gogo_: yep, there's several.
[05:37] <Wips> Under share definitions.. [homes] 
[05:37] <nikitis> ?
[05:37] <Wips> gogo_: [homes]  and [NetLogon] 
[05:37] <Wips> gogo_: [Profiles]  and [printers] 
[05:37] <ShackJack> nikitis: you can make update manager do that - gksudo update-manager -c -d
[05:38] <gogo_> ok I want you to wite [Shares]  at the end of file
[05:38] <ikaruga> hey guys, anyone with experience running F-SPOT?
[05:38] <nikitis> ShackJack, ok cause i have to do that.  the new 2.6.20 kernel doesn't support the it821x card anymore like it should.  Ubuntu6 worked fine.
[05:38] <Wips> but gogo_: on the bottom I can see the folder that I've tried to share.. It says ["foldername"] , the path, that it's available, browsable etc etc..
[05:38] <r00723r0__> hello?
[05:38] <gogo_> tell me the hole entry
[05:39] <r00723r0__> i'd like to change the scrollbar color for the glossy theme
[05:39] <r00723r0__> is it in gtkrc?
[05:39] <r00723r0__> if it is, i can't find it
[05:39] <phresh_> Hello.  I wonder if someone would be able to help me install Ubuntu via HTTP.
[05:39] <ikaruga> hey guys, anyone familiar with F-SPOT?
[05:40] <herbaliser> i'm having a problem with proftpd and TLS: i receive the following error in tls.log file.  SSL3_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher and TLS negatition failed on control channel. Anybody that can help me with this problem
[05:40] <saulgood> hello - i've taken a hard disk from one machine that died and put into another case - how can i get the network card(s) identified?
[05:40] <gogo_> if everithing is ok. don't change the file, Just close gedit and at the terminal type: smbpasswd -a <your_username>
[05:41] <gogo_> and type a password
[05:41] <Fuzz> whats the best player for mkv files in linux.. VLC player gets such big hickups all the time
[05:41] <s3phiroth> Fuzz: mplayer
[05:41] <Wips> gogo_: It looks good actually. was on my way pasting it in a pastebin you see..
[05:41] <Fuzz> ill check it
[05:43] <gogo_> did you read what i typed before?
[05:43] <adsl> raga vi segnalo la nascita di un nuovo progetto www.luminaris.altervista.org
[05:43] <Wips> gogo_: All that happends when I write smbpasswd -a <the username> is that it shows me which commands I can use with smbpasswd
[05:43] <naknomik> What are my audio/video chat options on Ubuntu?
[05:44] <craigBrxb> Help please:  playing, ripping from CD creates nothing but noise.  Otherwise, Audio system works fine.  This happened since Feisty upgrade.  Need help troubleshooting.  Suspect codec?
[05:44] <iMayKnow> naknomik, ekiga works pretty well
[05:44] <gogo_> oup i forgot.. it must be sudo smbpasswd -a <your_username>
[05:44] <Wips> gogo_: oh, nvm.. I forgot sudo
[05:44] <Wips> gogo_: yeh :) I figured
[05:45] <mrson> bueneas
[05:45] <carloz> f
[05:45] <mrson> buenas
[05:45] <ancamu> buenas
[05:46] <Wips> gogo_: It works perfect now, thx alot
[05:46] <mrson> ancamu como me cambio a ubunru-es
[05:46] <sergevn> Hi, does anyone has any experience with beryl and the i380 driver in combination?
[05:46] <mrson> ubuntu-es
[05:46] <gogo_> you're wellcome. bye
[05:47] <roadkill> im being told i need to be identified to join a channel whats that about?
[05:47] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hi, bug 50722 is still ongoing... any ideas how to troubleshoot further?
[05:47] <Wips> gogo_: btw, just fast. how do I open a folder with root? some folders on hdd1 are owned by root so I cant edit them
[05:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> roadkill, type in /msg nickserv help
[05:48] <ShackJack> Wips: sudo nautilus
[05:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> roadkill: you need to register your nickname
[05:48] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: feisty or edgy?
[05:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> feisty
[05:48] <Magicdead> anyone with knowledge of grub mind checking my setup as i have no idea whats wrong with grub and i at least want to make sure everything is configured correctly
[05:48] <wamty> can anyone help me configure my wireless card?
[05:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I'm willing to assist further :)
[05:48] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: ok looking now
[05:48] <plugwash> does ubuntu provide archive sources for releases that are no longer supported and if so where?
[05:48] <wamty> can anyone help me configure my wireless card?
[05:49] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> thanks
[05:49] <Wips> ShackJack: thanks
[05:50] <ancamu> ll
[05:50] <wamty> can anyone help me configure my wireless card?
[05:50] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: when does this happen only on valgrind?
[05:50] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> that's right
[05:50] <roadkill> how do ya reg your nick?
[05:50] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it may be a bit of a red herring
[05:50] <ubuntu_laptop> thats what i thought. is it reproducible all the time?
[05:51] <ShackJack> !ask > wamty
[05:51] <ShackJack> !ask | wamty
[05:51] <herbaliser> wamty what card?
[05:51] <ubotu> wamty: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <herbaliser> :)
[05:52] <herbaliser> are you having troubles installing driver, or config problems
[05:52] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ubuntu-laptop, yep if you use the example program and compile it, then run valgrind on it the problem reoccurs
[05:52] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:53] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> dunno if it's a big problem, maybe my limited understanding of valgrind is at fault here
[05:53] <stachou57_> des francais ici
[05:53] <greyfrog> !fr | stachou57_
[05:53] <ubotu> stachou57_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:53] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: the core devel team is not normally here on weekends but i will ping one about this on monday or tuesday and have him/her leave comment on what they need as far as info. but im not sure if this is able to be fixed in feisty as i think its valgrind not glibc
[05:54] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> fair enough
[05:54] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I only saw that a test program had been created, and when I compiled it I got the same error
[05:55] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> but I'll definitely be around. if they need any more info, more repro steps I'm quite happy to assist in any way possible!
[05:55] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: you may need to add that anyway so thye can reproduce it.
[05:55] <Vince2010091> salut
[05:56] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: add the steps on how to and let me know ill take a look (luckily im on my feisty laptop)
[05:56] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's the same as the original poster
[05:57] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ubuntu_laptop: if there are any steps missing, let me know
[05:57] <agentnoob> I've got a 64 bit system using a 32 bit OS and after installing nvidia drivers xorg.conf says its Device "Generic Video Card" everything runs right however recently a video game complained about the driver
[05:57] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: ill test it a bit later this afternoona nd see what i can find out
[05:57] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> no probs
[05:57] <agentnoob> is my circumstance normal?
[05:58] <ubuntu_laptop> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: ping gnomefreak on monday (im gnomefreak) and i will let you know what i found out if anything
[05:59] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ubuntu_laptop: it's quite possible that bug 50722 might be related to this one
[05:59] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> oops, I meant 114032!
[06:02] <Bombela> hi all
[06:03] <Puaff> please, I have a second user in ubuntu (last version) who cannot use the volume applet (I have mark the "enable manage sound devices" in the users tool), does anyone know how to anable it?
[06:05] <greyfrog> Puaff, they may be adjusting volume on wrong sound card... do you have more than one sound card?
[06:05] <shatrat> or it could be set to the wrong channel on the sound card
[06:05] <TGM> I would like to be able to use DVD's on my computer as It comes with a DVD R/W but thus far I've been unable to make it work or find any codecs, can anyone point me to some so that it might work?
[06:05] <greyfrog> !codec | TGM
[06:05] <ubotu> TGM: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:06] <greyfrog> !dvd | TGM
[06:06] <ubotu> TGM: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:06] <TGM> Thank you :D
[06:06] <Puaff> greyfrog, I only have one sound card it's a hp laptop
[06:06] <greyfrog> no problem :)
[06:07] <Puaff> greyfrog, it complains about gstreamer but the main user can use it with no problems
[06:07] <BitEater> how can i tell grub-install on which partition is puts his menu.lst file?
[06:08] <icanic> hi ppl
[06:08] <greyfrog> Puaff, hrmm... are they in the "audio" group?
[06:08] <icanic> does someone here have 8800GTS?
[06:08] <Frozen_mango> o.O
[06:08] <Frozen_mango> Ubuntu is the largest channel on freenode
[06:08] <redmosquito> i need help setting up my wireless card.. :( i have already installed ndiswrapper..
[06:08] <uberushaximus> Frozen_mango, this suprises you?
[06:08] <Puaff> greyfrog, I don't know, I'm going to see I'll come back in a minute, thx
[06:08] <tarzeau> the largest penis, is not the best
[06:08] <aamy> i'm a total linux newbie, downloaded the latest release of ubuntu and burned to a CD. I tried to run it from the CD and I got a bunch of errors which ended with 'X Server failed to start. Do you want to diagnose?' Any ideas?
[06:08] <Frozen_mango> yes
[06:09] <greyfrog> Puaff one sec!
[06:09] <tarzeau> Frozen_mango: and ubuntu doesn't have the largest software collection either
[06:09] <Frozen_mango> Does that mean ubuntu is spreading on desktops?
[06:09] <tarzeau> Frozen_mango: yes
[06:09] <zach_> redmosquito what wireless do u have?
[06:09] <poningru> aamy: hmm
[06:09] <greyfrog> Puaff no audio would work if they weren't...
[06:09] <redmosquito> i have linksys
[06:09] <tarzeau> Frozen_mango: see http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[06:09] <zach_> usb?
[06:09] <spikeb> who does have the largest software collection, debian sid?
[06:09] <poningru> aamy: press ctrl+alt+f1
[06:09] <poningru> aamy: what do you see?
[06:09] <icanic> aamy I think that it's something wrong with your graphic card driver
[06:09] <redmosquito> no.. its a wireless card for laptop
[06:09] <rbielun> yeah new kernel fixes came out today!
[06:09] <ioboss> hi, i have upgraded to guitsy.. but now i can't switch to other consolle from alt F7 to other alt f1 etc etc
[06:09] <icanic> but I'm new too
[06:10] <ioboss> witch packege i have to reinstall?
[06:10] <poningru> ioboss: please take it to #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <greyfrog> rbielun, renamed devices *again*
[06:10] <aamy> icanic: you mean the graphic card driver that comes with ubuntu live cd?
[06:10] <zach_> hmm, I installed the USB linksys, lemme try to find the guide, hopefully it works for you
[06:10] <poningru> other wise it gets confusing here
[06:10] <icanic> don't know
[06:10] <rbielun> greyfrog: oh really~
[06:10] <ioboss> ok, thanks
[06:10] <poningru> aamy: do you have the cd running right now?
[06:10] <icanic> I'm new too
[06:10] <icanic> you can't boot to live?
[06:10] <greyfrog> rbielun, the default setup should handle it though...
[06:10] <redmosquito> i got lost with the sudo gedit (nothing comes up)
[06:11] <aamy> poningru: i'm on windows right now....i couldn't even boot into ubuntu
[06:11] <zach_> gedit is just the text editor
[06:11] <greyfrog> rbielun, might need to re setup some programs that use CD or DVD
[06:11] <rjune> I have a 5 button mouse with two scroll wheels, what tool would I use to configure it?
[06:11] <rbielun> greyfrog: i don't get a blank screen with a blinking cursor anymore so i'm happy ^_^
[06:11] <zach_> what did the instructions tell you to do?
[06:11] <poningru> aamy: what kinda graphics card do you have?
[06:11] <greyfrog> rbielun, very nice ;)
[06:11] <icanic> what drivers to use with nvidia 8800gts? I have tryed the newest but it won't work
[06:11] <sroecker> my PDF files won't get thumbnailed anymore, how can I change that?
[06:11] <redmosquito> 3d. Edit all the .conf files, look for the line RadioState|1 and change it to RadioState|0 (to do this, I had to type sudo gedit and open the files from the GUI... gedit didn't quite like opening files with \: from the command line, not sure why) I'm not sure if just changing one or two files will work, but I just changed all 4.
[06:11] <poningru> icanic: yeah dont think that will work
[06:11] <poningru> icanic: you have to use vesa
[06:11] <aamy> poningru: hold on, let me check.
[06:12] <icanic> vesa? why vesa?
[06:12] <poningru> icanic: the drivers arent done yet iirc
[06:12] <icanic> omg
[06:12] <icanic> then nothing for me?
[06:12] <poningru> icanic: I think gutsy will have the latest driver that you can use
[06:12] <icanic> no beryl=
[06:12] <poningru> icanic: well you can use vesa
[06:12] <poningru> yeah sorry no beryl yet
[06:12] <icanic> :-(
[06:12] <aamy> poningru: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
[06:13] <icanic> ffs
[06:13] <poningru> icanic: hold on let me go make sure
[06:13] <icanic> ok
[06:13] <icanic> I think my friend did Install it on ubuntu
[06:13] <icanic> but don't know what ver
[06:14] <Raevn> Q: Is there a queue for questions, or do we just dive in between the 1105 swimmmers?
[06:14] <poningru> ah here we go
[06:14] <zach_> redmosquito, use this guide it should help you out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192588&highlight=WUSB54G
[06:14] <[agatha] > hum guys i've heard is possible to install KDE in ubuntu.. with synaptics... is that true?
[06:14] <poningru> icanic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452835
[06:14] <icanic> okok
[06:14] <redmosquito> cool thanks. lemme check that out...
[06:15] <saxin> [agatha] : yes
[06:15] <TheMafia> how can I check if a file has all uniq lines in a bash script?  I have the command sort users.full.rsc | uniq --repeated but don't know how to incorporate that into an if statement
[06:15] <ALMimoni> how do I convert vcd (.dat) to avi or any format else?
[06:15] <poningru> aamy: ok hold on
[06:15] <aamy> poningru: sure
[06:15] <[agatha] > so how you make it saxin ? i searched for KDE in synaptics and got 3 different packages,,, just installing the 3 straight away?
[06:15] <roryy> TheMafia: you could use 'wc' on that and compare it to 'wc' for the original file
[06:15] <Puaff> greyfrog, yes, the user is in the audio gruop
[06:16] <TheMafia> roryy, there isn't an original file, it creates it each time, the server will fail if there is a non-uniq entry and I just want to try to avoid that
[06:16] <Puaff> greyfrog, it's then only privileged group it has
[06:17] <Steve^> Whats the nice way to set my locale to en_GB?
[06:17] <forum2006> live cd question: in which script ubuntu mounts the overlay filesystem?
[06:17] <roryy> TheMafia: hrm.  pipe to a temporary file, or write a little python/perl script to check in that case.  There may well be an existing utility, but i don't know it.
[06:18] <TheMafia> roryy, wc might still work, I could use wc to make a variable before the sort and uniq and then wc after and compare the two
[06:18] <roryy> TheMafia: oh, uniq has a 'print only duplicate lines' option (-d) -- you could use tha
[06:18] <roryy> that, even
[06:19] <HungryCakes> So as one user suggested, I started using Ktorrent for my Ubuntu machine.  It worked out fine for a while, but now another problem has come up.  When I download for 3-4 minutes, internet gets cut off to both of my computers.  Wireless connection to the router is fine, but neither computer can get to the internet.  This only happens when I torrent with the Ubuntu machine, with my Windows box torrents work fine.
[06:19] <HungryCakes> And I use Verizon's FIOS
[06:20] <poningru> aamy: ok so simple answer
[06:20] <aamy> poningru: okay?
[06:20] <ice9> I have been using festy for 32 bit I have a 64 bit amd 3500+ processor I been having alot of problems with my vid card and sound should I update to 64 bit feisty instead ?
[06:20] <poningru> aamy: when you bootup and see that error
[06:20] <poningru> bootup from the cd that is
[06:20] <tannerld> I'm trying to run a program and it says to get "install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables", but I do not know where to get that?
[06:21] <poningru> press ctrl+alt+f2
[06:21] <Panda200x> Can anyone tell me where the Login Script is? :P
[06:21] <poningru> aamy: and then type 'sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then type enter
[06:21] <aamy> poningru: okay, and what will that do?
[06:21] <ice9> I have been using festy for 32 bit I have a 64 bit amd 3500+ processor I been having alot of problems with my vid card and sound should I update to 64 bit feisty instead ?
[06:21] <poningru> err wrong command
[06:22] <poningru> aamy: sorry type this 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' then press enter
[06:22] <ice9> or doesn't it matter
[06:22] <poningru> aamy: you can use your keyboard to up down arrows to scroll down
[06:23] <felipefg> ice9: it probably doesnt matter... what kind of problems are you having?
[06:23] <aamy> poningru: okay....do I have to edit something in the file then?
[06:23] <poningru> yes
[06:23] <poningru> aamy: then find something like Driver "ati"
[06:23] <aamy> poningru: what should i be looking for?
[06:24] <ice9> problems with graphics I have a 56 in JVC HDTV that i hooked up through dvi to hdmi
[06:24] <poningru> edit that ati to vesa
[06:24] <Raevn> System:
[06:24] <Raevn> 2 HDDs and 3 boot optiopns: Ubuntu-KDE, XP & XP.
[06:24] <Raevn> 
[06:24] <Raevn> Problem:
[06:24] <Raevn>  * Deleted the Ubuntu partition and Grub fails (code 17).
[06:24] <Raevn>  * Ubuntu & WinXP Recovery/Reinstall opptions all fail.
[06:24] <Raevn>  * Knoppix won't mount NTFS partitions. Reports Win shutdown failure.
[06:24] <ice9> now when I run the binary for nvidia vid card
[06:24] <Raevn>    Possible NTFS has locked down the drives.
[06:24] <mcronline> ice9: describe tje problem
[06:24] <Raevn>  * Research tells me XP Recovery FIXBOOT & FIXMBR will not restore the MBR
[06:24] <Raevn> 
[06:24] <Raevn> Ques:
[06:24] <Raevn> How to proceed?
[06:25] <realo> hello...  ubuntu transformed all my hda mounts into sda mounts yesterday... how do I revert back to hda?
[06:25] <poningru> aamy: press ctrl+x, then press enter couple of times
[06:25] <jAk> I have received ubuntu cd in the post, and having problems installing on my Dell Latitude, c640.. it just crashes... any advice if its possible to install..  currently have xp
[06:25] <aamy> poningru: what is vesa? If its the default display driver, does that mean that I won't be able to run Beryl with it?
[06:25] <ice9> ok when I use envy I can remote session with x using freenx
[06:25] <ice9> but x doesn't come up on the tv
[06:25] <zmigliozzi> Raevn edit your menu.lst
[06:25] <ice9> when I use the nvidia binnary from the site x comes up on the tv
[06:26] <zmigliozzi> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:26] <ice9> I don't get it
[06:26] <ice9> what driver am I suppose to use
[06:26] <poningru> aamy: vesa is the default driver but once you have X running you can install the normal non-free ati drivers easily with system->admin->restricted drivers manager
[06:26] <mcronline> ice9: itcould be a different output to what the tv expects... check tv for different mode.. ie RGB/Composite on aux channel card is plugged in to
[06:26] <realo> hello...  ubuntu update transformed all my hda mounts into sda mounts yesterday... how do I revert back to hda?
[06:26] <poningru> aamy: once you quit out of nano with ctrl+x and pressing enter couple of times you can start x with sudo startx
[06:26] <Raevn> zmigliozzi - sorry,. partition deleted via XP as first error.
[06:26] <ice9> ok
[06:27] <felipefg> ice9: im always confused with these tv output for video cards.. but AFAIK you will have to use nvidia's proprietary driver..
[06:27] <zmigliozzi> Raevn what you can also do is, reboot in both your XP partitions then try booting back up in ubuntu
[06:27] <TheMafia> roryy,  Isolved the problem with wc, thanks
[06:27] <mcronline> ice9: yes, you must use nvidias driver as well
[06:27] <poningru> Raevn: your research is wrong, get a windows cd and do a repair install, and then do a fixmbr
[06:27] <ice9> but I get sound when I use the binary drivers for remote session
[06:27] <felipefg> eventually I made it work on my laptop only by tweaking xorg.conf (with nvidia's drivers)
[06:27] <poningru> Raevn: or just do an actual repair install
[06:27] <ice9> but not when i use nvidia-glx drivers
[06:27] <ice9> and I on ly have a 6600gt card
[06:27] <borg7_> I have a LTSP setup w/ 2 NIC's but I want an XP machine to get DHCP from the LTSP server... how can I make the XP machine connect to the internet?
[06:28] <mcronline> ice9: is the tv image just black?
[06:28] <ice9> yes
[06:28] <aamy> poningru: okay, thanks for your help. I'm going to try this right now.
[06:28] <mcronline> ice9: check display mode like i said first
[06:28] <Raevn> zmigliozzi, Good to hear. Will do the fixmbr on the first active drive. back in a while.  & Thanks!!!
[06:28] <HungryCakes> So as one user suggested, I started using Ktorrent for my Ubuntu machine.  It worked out fine for a while, but now another problem has come up.  When I download for 3-4 minutes, internet gets cut off to both of my computers.  Wireless connection to the router is fine, but neither computer can get to the internet.  This only happens when I torrent with the Ubuntu machine, with my Windows box torrents work fine.  I use Verizon
[06:28] <ice9> I have to use another tty to login
[06:28] <ice9> then I install the nvidia binary driver and the screen comes up
[06:28] <poningru> aamy: within the live cd it should have an irc client
[06:29] <poningru> just come right back and let me know if it works
[06:29] <addyk> Hello #ubuntu
[06:29] <addyk> How can I add another user that can startx?
[06:29] <poningru> HungryCakes: turn the upload down a lot
[06:29] <ice9> but if I use the binary drivers from nvidia only gnome comes up I can't get into my other window managers like kde
[06:29] <aamy> poningru: okay, be right back.
[06:29] <jAk> anybody got my message?
[06:29] <poningru> addyk: go to system->admin->user&group
[06:29] <Raevn> poningr: Tried Repair install previous but can't recall the failure. Will try both ur suggestions. Thanks much.
[06:29] <poningru> and then add a user
[06:30] <mcronline> ice9: what version of ubuntu are you using.. for anything prior to 7.10 i would use automatix2 to install it (then remove automatix2 after) with the latest version just use the nvidia binary
[06:30] <poningru> Raevn: there is the repair install option that takes you to command line
[06:30] <addyk> poningru: I'm not using a normal ubuntu... I want to startx from a tty
[06:30] <ice9> using feisty
[06:30] <ice9> 7.0
[06:30] <ice9> 7.04
[06:30] <poningru> addyk: sudo startx
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> mcronline and ice9, that is very very bad advice, do no tuse automatix
[06:30] <poningru> wait what?
[06:30] <poningru> addyk: I'm confused
[06:31] <ice9> yeah I don't
[06:31] <zmigliozzi> Raevn run fixmbr and chkdsk /r in xp
[06:31] <ice9> not for drivers at least
[06:31] <addyk> poningru: I get X: user not authorized to run the X server when I try to startx from a tty1 or tty2
[06:31] <HungryCakes> poningru:  I'll try it, but just curious, what exactly will it do?  I already limited my upload speed
[06:31] <ice9> so what should I do
[06:31] <poningru> Raevn: you may have to do chkdsk /r before doing the fixmbr
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> ice9: you should consider not using it period.
[06:31] <ice9> k
[06:31] <poningru> addyk: is that your machine?
[06:31] <felipefg> hahah
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> its been known to break systems during upgrade
[06:31] <mcronline> i would only suggest automatix because it makes using nvidia drivers quick. its not an ideal solution and i am aware of the problems, which is why i suggested removing it afterwards
[06:31] <poningru> addyk: as in are you the only person on it?
[06:31] <jAk> can i install ubuntu with going through the live cd process?
[06:31] <addyk> Yes.
[06:31] <ice9> so should I get another kernel then
[06:31] <poningru> addyk: also how are you connecting to it? just keyboard and monitor?
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> mcronline: installing nvidia drivers isnj't hard, you don't need automatix for it.
[06:32] <ice9> cause right now its just generic
[06:32] <Raevn> jak: have had video & lo memory probs with a Latitude M233XT. Small drive etc... If any of thse are also your problem there's lots in the forums. Search on "Latitude" and your model number. [non-xprt] 
[06:32] <addyk> Yeah :) I hid xdm from startup
[06:32] <addyk> pon
[06:32] <addyk> poningru:
[06:32] <mcronline> IndyGunFreak.. talk him through it then plz
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> mcronline: there's numerous tutorials for doing t..... i had no trouble at all..
[06:32] <IndyGunFreak> !nvidia
[06:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:32] <ice9> IndyGunFreak can I pm you
[06:33] <felipefg> guys, im having a different problem. im trying to boot feisty live CD (amd64) but i get knocked out to BusyBOX shell, with (initramfs) as prompt.. any advices here?
[06:33] <IndyGunFreak> ice9: i don't care
[06:33] <ajt__> hey everyone I need to be able to send mail from ubuntu server 7.04 with mediawiki. Is there a simple mailer I can install, or do I need postfix?
 do u ever see the splash screen?
[06:33] <poningru> addyk: did you try sudo startx?
[06:34] <mcronline> Out of curiosity if Automatix is bad it stands to reason that EasyUbuntu has the same problems? is this correct?
[06:34] <poningru> mcronline: no
[06:34] <mcronline> what is the difference?
[06:34] <borg7_> I have a LTSP setup w/ 2 NIC's but I want an XP machine to get DHCP from the LTSP server... how can I make the XP machine connect to the internet?
[06:34] <tonyr> hello
[06:34] <poningru> addyk: go into /etc/group and add yourself to admin etc.
[06:34] <addyk> sudo startx would be a risk... I'm trying it now...
[06:34] <poningru> ...
[06:35] <poningru> addyk: not it wouldnt be a risk thats how you are supposed to do it
[06:35] <jAk> Thanks raevn for the advice..
[06:35] <flyinghippo> Hello.
[06:35] <poningru> mcronline: the difference is that edubuntu is done by actually developers
[06:36] <mcronline> not edbuntu, easyubuntu
[06:36] <poningru> oh well yeah
[06:36] <hagabaka> is there a virtual package that lets me install the latest "supported" sun java VM?
[06:36] <flyinghippo> I'm wasting time by building an interactive desktop with launchers that say things.  Would anyone know of either: 1) A terminal command that makes it wait for a key to press or 2) command that opens a dialog box in GNOME?
[06:36] <poningru> hence easyubuntu not existing
[06:36] <ajt__> I need a simple smtp server just to send email, what should I use?
[06:36] <poningru> mcronline: easyubuntu does not exist anymore
[06:36] <adolson> Fiesty killed my MP3 player...
[06:36] <mcronline> oh
[06:36] <tarzeau> adolson: which mp3 player?
 what do u mean lol
[06:36] <mcronline> thanks.. i just want to keep up to speed on what exists or not
[06:37] <poningru> !smtp | ajt__
[06:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <mcronline> thanks for advoce
[06:37] <mcronline> and advice even
[06:37] <adolson> Sony NW-E003F
[06:37] <poningru> mcronline: yep
[06:37] <larthar> do i need smp kernel for 2 processing cores?
[06:37] <adolson> it worked fine in debian and Windows, but after I tried using it in Feisty, now it just powers off while transferring files to it
[06:37] <tarzeau> larthar: yes
[06:38] <rohan> in the musicbrainz supplied by ubuntu, it's not possible to look up info for mp3 files - how do i remedy that ?
[06:38] <tonyr> kernel update 2.6.20-16.29  goes back to /dev/sda convention for ide drive.  what the heck is it with this fools parade of device
[06:38] <larthar> tarzeau: so generic only uses 1 core?
[06:38] <tonyr> name changes back and forth???
[06:38] <tarzeau> larthar: i was refering to the kernel configuration
[06:38] <rohan> larthar: no. generic uses both cores if available
[06:38] <edmon> heeey can some one help me with my ati graficcard?
[06:39] <larthar> rohan: thanks
[06:39] <jrib> can I somehow access the things that get mounted in nautilus with "connect to server" in a shell?
 what audio application are you using?
[06:39] <poningru> edmon: whatsup?
[06:39] <larthar> tarzeau thanks
[06:39] <edmon> i installed the driver but it dont work
[06:39] <poningru> edmon: how did you install the driver?
[06:40] <edmon> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[06:40] <addyk> poningru: It wouldn't ? Hmm... but I could startx in slackware without being sudoed...
[06:40] <addyk> :|
[06:40] <edmon> by terminal
[06:40] <poningru> edmon: why?
[06:40] <jAk> found the answer on the forums LOL... thanks guys
[06:40] <smast> how do i install plugin libdvdcss?
[06:40] <edmon> what do u mean?
[06:40] <poningru> edmon: why did you not use the restricted drivers management?
[06:40] <mcronline> I actually have a weird problem while i am here.. i can play mp3's and xvid locally fine, but if i try remotely to play it says error it says "There is no plugin to handle the location of this movie".. it used to work.  The server is ubuntu as well, and it works when i boot this machine into vista. Any ideas?
[06:41] <jAk> over and out
 sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[06:41] <mcronline> '
[06:41] <zmigliozzi> that is an old library though
[06:41] <edmon> wich is?
[06:41] <mcronline> oh i and i use Totem
[06:41] <adolson> zmigliozzi: in Linux there is only one known option, and it's a Java application called NM-E00X MP3 File Manager. like I said, it worked fine in debian., but Feisty has several bug reports open right now about HAL issues with ejectable USB devices, and that's the only difference I can tell between debian and Feisty.. I contacted Sony support to try and get it working in Windows again, but it still powers off and on again during file transfers, even u
[06:41] <cweagans> if I compile a kernel with "make", where can I find it to install it (and how do I install it)
[06:41] <edmon> what is restricted drivers management?
[06:42] <tonyr> anyone? anyone? hda->sda->hda->sda...  when oh when will it end?
[06:42] <poningru> smast: you are probably thinking about /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[06:42] <poningru> tonyr: probably day after tomorrow
[06:42] <poningru> edmon: what ubuntu are you using?
[06:42] <void^> tonyr: how does it matter, just use uuids
[06:42] <edmon> 7.04
[06:42] <poningru> edmon: feisty or edgy or what?
[06:42] <Bsims> is there a place to get a helix deb for feisty/edgy... xine engine doesn't do the BBC real streams
[06:42] <edmon> feisty
i use "movie player" to play dvd's and now its telling me that im missing a plugin
[06:42] <mseney> cweagans, not sure if this will help but i just did one on slackware and did a #make install and then #make install_modules and it took care of it for me
[06:43] <cweagans> kk
[06:43] <cweagans> thx
[06:43] <mseney> cweagans, make install i know updated lilo and and did a few other things
[06:43] <poningru> edmon: system->admin->restricted drivers management
[06:43] <poningru> edmon: undo what you did on the command line
[06:43] <poningru> and then use that
[06:43] <tondar> hey all
 this guide should help you http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[06:43] <edmon> i must restart noow
[06:44] <edmon> i activited
[06:44] <zmigliozzi> wats crackin tondar
[06:44] <tondar> how could I have a nice dock in vm running ubuntu? possible at all?
[06:44] <poningru> tondar: a what?
[06:44] <poningru> dock in vm?
[06:44] <addyk> Thanks poningru :D I managed to make it work :)
[06:44] <poningru> addyk: awesome
[06:44] <poningru> what was it?
[06:44] <addyk> Well I added the user to the video group...
[06:44] <zmigliozzi> tondar: you would need to install the dock into the OS u are virtualizing
[06:44] <tondar> poningru: dock manager like kiba and ...
[06:44] <poningru> ...
[06:44] <addyk> That's why it couldn't startx
[06:44] <Wobee> someone know to install vmware server please?
[06:45] <tondar> zmigliozzi: ? ha? :P
[06:45] <DrFEAR> Hi to all
[06:45] <poningru> Wobee: whats the trouble?
[06:45] <poningru> addyk: lol well atleast you can use it now
[06:45] <zmigliozzi> tondar: or u just talking about a dock in general?
[06:45] <addyk> Well thanks poningru :D Have a nice day :)
[06:45] <zmigliozzi> for ubuntu
[06:45] <tondar> zmigliozzi: a dock that I could run inside my vm
[06:45] <poningru> :D see ya man
[06:45] <Wobee> poningru, when the installer doing a make for perl
[06:46] <Endoflow> so.. my parents bought a new laptop that came with vista pre installed... well so... I wanted to install ubuntu....I install it on a different patrtition leaving the vista partition intact.... but after installation grub does not detect vista.... is there a way to configure grub to recognize vista?
[06:46] <poningru> Wobee: woah woah woah what?
[06:46] <adolson> I guess I have to buy a new MP3 player.
[06:46] <adolson> and stay far away from Ubuntu
[06:46] <poningru> Wobee: what are you trying to install? vmware server right?
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> adolson: why is that?
[06:46] <Wobee> poningru, lol
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> ipods, etc.. work fine with ubuntu
[06:46] <Wobee> poningru, right
[06:46] <poningru> why are you not using the one from repository?
[06:46] <adolson> IndyGunFreak: did you just join the channel?
[06:46] <Wobee> poningru, i have an error
[06:46] <tondar> zmigliozzi: any ideas?
[06:46] <poningru> Wobee: whats the error?
[06:46] <IndyGunFreak> adolson: no, i've just not followd what your problem is.
[06:47] <Wobee> poningru, VmPerl.c:5162: erreur: invalid type argument of unary *
[06:47] <Wobee> VmPerl.c:5162: attention : transtypage vers un pointeur depuis un entier de tail
[06:47] <tonyr> viod^,poningru: uuids, I know, I know, but this waffling  back and forth makes the devs appear weak and indecisive, and spreads insecurity among the masses
 title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000root          (hd0,0)makeactivechainloader   +1
[06:47] <DrFEAR> somebody's not busy to help me?
[06:47] <DrFEAR> XD
[06:47] <poningru> Wobee: why are you not going sudo aptitude install vmware-server?
[06:47] <Endoflow> thanks
[06:47] <poningru> Wobee: that will install it
[06:47] <zmigliozzi> tondar: so you want it in the virtualization or just for vm-ware?
[06:47] <poningru> Wobee: you dont have it installed yet right?
[06:47] <IndyGunFreak> !ask | DrFEAR
[06:47] <ubotu> DrFEAR: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:47] <Wobee> poningru, oh ok i try nowthank you
[06:47] <poningru> ...
[06:47] <DrFEAR> ohh ok
[06:47] <poningru> !vmware | Wobee
[06:47] <eMonster|Vista> hiiiii
[06:47] <ubotu> Wobee: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:48] <eMonster|Vista> knome or gde?
[06:48] <poningru> Wobee: follow that instruction
[06:48] <DrFEAR> I have a problem with my kernel...:S
[06:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> newbie to Ubuntu question: how do I find what package a file belongs to?
[06:48] <DrFEAR> well, with my kernel update...
[06:48] <poningru> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: what file?
[06:48] <tondar> zmigliozzi: well here is the thing: I have xp installed as host and ubuntu as guest, so I would like to have a dock inside the vm which is running ubuntu
[06:48] <Ali_ix> hi channel
[06:48] <adolson> IndyGunFreak: I have a Sony NM-E003F MP3 player. it cost me about $100. you can't drag-n-drop files to it in Linux.. you have to use a Java application called NM-E00X MP3 File Manager. it worked fine in debian and Windows, but Feisty has several bug reports open right now about HAL issues with ejectable USB devices, and that's the only difference I can tell between debian and Feisty.. now the player just power-cycles during file transfers, corrupting
[06:48] <roryy> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: 'dpkg -S /full/path/and/filename'
[06:48] <poningru> DrFEAR: just state your problem
[06:48] <leobloom> whats the difference between ubuntu iso on dvd and the cd version?
[06:48] <Ali_ix> how can i exlude some package from auto-update?
[06:49] <Shaftino> With the minimal install cd of ubuntu, do i get the choice of exactly what packages I want to download and install?
[06:49] <poningru> leobloom: dvd has tons of packages
 So you just want a dock for the virtualized ubuntu
[06:49] <SudoBash> hey does anyone know about TV repair here or know where I can find some help on it?
[06:49] <void^> tonyr: the masses aren't supposed to know the difference between a device node and a neural node in their brains.
[06:49] <Ali_ix> i read some thing about apt-in, didnt worked on feisty
[06:49] <tondar> zmigliozzi: yes
[06:49] <tondar> right
[06:49] <IndyGunFreak> adolson: hmm.. I've got an Ipod, and a Sandisk e260, both work perfect....
[06:49] <poningru> Ali_ix: just mark it non updatable and it should be good
[06:49] <DrFEAR> there's an error when updating my kernel, it says "problem with dependencies"
[06:49] <poningru> err hold on
[06:49] <tondar> zmigliozzi: is there any?
[06:49] <Ali_ix> poningru: via synaptic? thnx
[06:50] <aamy> poningru: tried what you suggested, xorg.conf already has the vesa driver, doesn't have ATI. The following text keeps appearing on my screen every 10 or so seconds:
[06:50] <leobloom> ponigru it has tons of pacvkages ,which means I can install stuff without having an internet connection?
[06:50] <poningru> Ali_ix: no hold on
[06:50] <aamy> [475.140000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[06:50] <Wobee> poningru, it doesn't work
 I dont use a dock but I've heard good things about avant http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[06:50] <zmigliozzi> check that out
[06:50] <poningru> Wobee: read what ubotu gave you
[06:50] <adolson> IndyGunFreak: yeah, I have two other mp3 players that work fine. but this one doesn't, at least not with Feisty...
[06:50] <kitche> tonyr: actually them switching back and forth is due to the masses
[06:50] <Endoflow> zmigli: where to I type that command?
[06:50] <poningru> !vmware | Wobee follow this:
[06:50] <ubotu> Wobee follow this:: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> adolson: wierd...
 i restarted now can i use beryl if i use the dirver in that place u give me...
[06:50] <tondar> zmigliozzi: heard of it b4, but does it need something like beryl or .... ?
 in your terminal type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:50] <Endoflow> k
[06:51] <Wobee> poningru, ok ok thank you
[06:51] <huascar80> how can i change the color of the panel in black?(feisty)
[06:51] <poningru> !beryl | edmon use this
[06:51] <poningru> aamy: hmm
 right click the panel > perferences
[06:51] <poningru> oh simple to do
[06:51] <huascar80> well ... if i set it black I won't see the names
[06:51] <ubotu> edmon use this: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:51] <poningru> aamy: but can you start X?
[06:51] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> thanks roryy
[06:52] <zero_> huascar80: you can search for cool themes then
[06:52] <andrewkk> is this an appropriate place to ask an openoffice question?
[06:52] <Ali_ix> huascar80: go to Administration > themes and customize colors
[06:52] <huascar80> zero_: themes? where?
 change ur system font colors then
[06:52] <poningru> aamy: what laptop is this?
[06:53] <zero_> huascar80: www.gnome.org
[06:53] <poningru> huascar80: actually gnomelooks.org would be better
[06:53] <tondar> zmigliozzi: does it need a window manager? beryl, compiz
[06:53] <tondar> ?
[06:53] <SudoBash> hey does anyone know about TV repair here or know where I can find some help on it?
[06:53] <aamy> poningru: DELL Inspiron E1705
[06:53] <zero_> huascar80: www.gnome-look.org
[06:53] <poningru> aamy: hold on
[06:54] <Wobee> !vmware
[06:54] <aamy> poningru: okay, i haven't tried yet to start X because I didn't make any changes in the config file
[06:54] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:54] <Cleric> hi can anyone help me install the latest ubuntu please
[06:54] <tonyr> kitche: yeah, I know a little of the history from the last round of switches.  I just wish 'they' would get it nailed down once and for all so that kernel upgrades wouldn't cause installed systems to stop working.  Anyway, I got my answer, so thanks and I'm outta here.
[06:54] <aamy> poningru: do you want me to try to start it?
[06:54] <tondar> anyone know if avant dock uses beryl or compiz?
[06:54] <poningru> aamy: yes please
[06:54] <poningru> sudo startx
[06:54] <huascar80> zero_: panel themes? r u sure there exists such thing?
[06:54] <IndyGunFreak> SudoBash: tv repair?
[06:54] <Wobee> !virtualizers
[06:54] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:54] <poningru> aamy: also for that bcm thing
[06:54] <aamy> poningru: how do i exit out of the editor back to the command line without saving?
[06:55] <poningru> aamy: ctrl+x but type no when it asks to save
 I don't believe so running in gnome or kde i think will be fine
[06:55] <zero_> huascar80: themes exists, look there       www.gnome-look.org
[06:55] <tonyr> /parT #ubuntu got my answer, goin' to the planet mongo
[06:55] <tondar> zmigliozzi: k
[06:55] <tondar> thanks
[06:55] <tondar> will give it a try
[06:55] <Ahadiel> !QEmu | Ahadiel
[06:55] <aamy> poningru: okay, when I tried to start x this is what happened:
[06:55] <tonyr> \part #ubuntu got my answer, goin' to the planet Mongo
[06:55] <aamy> poningru: Fatal Server error:
[06:55] <SudoBash> yeah crazy story... a lightening strike that I saw myself but didnt even hear it came through my coax fried a 32 inch TUBE TV and went through my S-video cable and friend my Nvidia Graphics card... So i fixed the computer but I was wondering where to get help with the tv
[06:55] <huascar80> you mean GTK themes? which one 1 or 2
[06:55] <aamy> poningru: no screens found
[06:56] <poningru> OH
[06:56] <SudoBash> fried
[06:56] <zero_> huascar80: 2
[06:56] <Endoflow> throw it away
[06:56] <SudoBash> Im a computer tech not a TV tech...
[06:56] <huascar80> zero_: THX
[06:56] <poningru> aamy: ok well for bcm thing just do 'sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter'
[06:56] <SudoBash> but i would like to try to fix it
[06:56] <Endoflow> it costs less to buy a new one
[06:56] <zero_> huascar80: your welcome
[06:56] <Puaff> please, could someone explain to me how radio links work in rythmbox? How can I find out the links of the radio stations? thx
[06:56] <poningru> aamy: hmm hold on re: screen
[06:57] <IndyGunFreak> SudoBash: no clue, i'd start with google.
[06:57] <SudoBash> true but I would like to see what i can do... Im 20... not made of money
[06:58] <Ali_ix> poningru: i have tried this: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html, for excluding some newer version of packages, but it didnt work :}
[06:58] <zmigliozzi> I'm out guys and girls ttyl
[06:58] <poningru> aamy: can you try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core
[06:58] <aamy> poningru: sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter: Couldn't find any packages whose name of description matched "bcm43xx-fwcutter" No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[06:59] <poningru> aamy: are you connected to the internet?
[06:59] <zero_> he's here right?
[06:59] <poningru> in that laptop I mean
[06:59] <ahura> I am experiencing problems while instaling linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic, is this a good place to ask for help?
[06:59] <zero_> ^^
[06:59] <zero_> laters
[06:59] <poningru> aamy: crap I have to go
[06:59] <poningru> I will be back in 6-8 hours
[07:00] <poningru> aamy: someone should be able to help you
[07:00] <aamy> poningru: okay, thanks for your help so far.
[07:00] <aamy> poningru: can you just tell me what you think the problem is?
[07:00] <poningru> aamy: the screen is not recognized
[07:00] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : AWN requires a compositor (like beryl or compiz) to work properly
[07:00] <aamy> poningru: and the bcm thing is a seperate problem or related?
[07:00] <poningru> if you search gnome you should be able to find something
[07:01] <poningru> aamy: seperate
[07:01] <adolson> !howtorevivemp3playerkilledbyubuntu
[07:01] <poningru> aamy: thats your wifi card
[07:01] <poningru> needs firmware
[07:01] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> compiz should be install on your machine if you have 7.04
[07:01] <zmigliozzi[away] > if not sudo apt-get install compiz
[07:01] <aamy> poningru: got it, thanks so much for your help.
[07:01] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : yeah but cant install compiz in a vm
[07:01] <adnan_> hi
[07:01] <tondar> :(
[07:01] <Ali_ix> hi adnan_
[07:01] <adnan_> who can tell me how I can use remote desktop
[07:01] <adnan_> I never used it really
[07:01] <ahura> I am experiencing problems while installing Ubuntu new atualizations, especifically linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic, can somebody help me out?
[07:02] <Ali_ix> :| me too
[07:02] <adnan_> I never had a need to connect to a server until now
[07:02] <adnan_> heheh
[07:02] <Ahadiel> adnan: Remote GUI, or Terminal?
[07:02] <Ali_ix> what is the problem ahura
[07:02] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> ahhh man, what does it say? It should be able to
[07:02] <adnan> either o4r
[07:02] <ahura> Ali_ix: I'll copy the error message, only a sec.
[07:03] <adnan> GUI preferably right now
[07:03] <Ali_ix> !pastebin | ahura
[07:03] <ubotu> ahura: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : it doesnt say anything, I read the requirements and it said it need compisiting manager (beryl or compiz)
[07:03] <strabes> is it normal to only get ~2 kb/s download on a torrent with about 1 or 2 seeders
[07:03] <Ahadiel> adnan_: Remote Desktop uses VNC
[07:03] <khermans> strabes, sure
[07:03] <adnan> ok Ahadiel
[07:03] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : can't have compiz in a vm machine
[07:03] <Ahadiel> Which would require certain ports to be forwarded on the remote machine
[07:03] <fit4lfe> hmm interesting so my restricted drivers show that they are working and in use
[07:03] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> you try beryl?
[07:03] <Ahadiel> (If it's behind a router)
[07:03] <Frogzoo_> strabes: possible - but check your inbound port is forwarded from your firewall
[07:03] <fit4lfe> so thats good
[07:04] <zero_> hi, i need help with wine, i tried to read the instructions but i got really confused, i'd like to install dreamweaver 8
[07:04] <fit4lfe> but how do you install the nforce drivers for the chip set though
[07:04] <adnan> I think that is all set
[07:04] <zero_> ubuntu 7.04 btw
[07:04] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : yeah man, dont even need to try, its a vm man :(
[07:04] <adnan> is actually a vps that I have to play around with
[07:04] <fit4lfe> !nforce
[07:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:04] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : guess I have to give up
[07:04] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_>www.winehq.com make sure it works
[07:04] <adnan> I was given access to it
[07:04] <Ali_ix> zero_: google it, there is some how to in ubuntu wiki/forums
[07:04] <ahura> Ali_ix: It says that wasn't possible to create backup link of ./boot/config-2.6.20-16-generic before installing the newer version...
[07:04] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_>www.winehq.org make sure it works
[07:05] <sarixe> hi, does anyone know the commandline arguments that GNOME's user-admin app uses to create a user?
[07:05] <adnan> Ahadiel
[07:05] <jay_> i am putting things in my startup programs but when i logout and log back in its not there. is there a permissions problem
[07:05] <khermans> sarixe, just use adduser
[07:05] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : you mean, make sure the app i want to install works?
[07:05] <sarixe> useradd, yeah
[07:05] <sarixe> wait
[07:05] <Ali_ix> ahura: check the premissions on /boot
[07:05] <khermans> sarixe, useradd does not copy /etc/skel
[07:05] <sarixe> adduser is like a script that does it?
[07:05] <adnan> Ali_ix
[07:05] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_>yes
[07:05] <sarixe> ah
[07:05] <ahura> Ali_ix: 1 sec
[07:05] <devaxis87> cze wam
[07:06] <Ali_ix> ahura: try this on a terminal: 'sudo ln -al /boot'
[07:06] <khermans> why needs advanced help?
[07:06] <khermans> who
[07:06] <devaxis87> jest ktos z polski ??
[07:06] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : ok give me  sec
[07:06] <devaxis87> ??????????????????
[07:06] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> just make a little partion for linux you know you want to : P
[07:06] <KEEEEV> how can i load a app as another users via root?
[07:07] <timmyd> when i compile a program on amd64, for some reason __x86_64__ isn't defined so i get the wrong __WORDSIZE defined... how can i fix this
[07:07] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : hahha, the thing is I am a linux ubuntu user already, on Desktop, but this is a laptop
[07:07] <tondar> :P
[07:07] <ahura> Ali_ix: lrwxrwxrwx
[07:07] <khermans> timmyd, what program?
[07:07] <KEEEEV> how can i load a app as another users via root?
[07:07] <zmigliozzi[away] > <timmyd> you can always --force-architecture
[07:07] <timmyd> khermans: anything that includes stdlib.h
[07:07] <khermans> KEEEEV, su user
[07:08] <KEEEEV> ty
[07:08] <Ali_ix> ahura: are you sure you executed this: 'ls -al /boot' ?
[07:08] <timmyd> zmigliozzi[away] : do you know how to see the default one?
[07:08] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : so I wanted to have all the lights and bulbs or at least some in the vm machine
[07:08] <khermans> timmyd, using gcc?
[07:08] <tondar> I'm used to have a dock at the bottom
[07:08] <timmyd> khermans: yes
[07:08] <sarixe> khermans: if i add things to /etc/skel, will it automatically be copied to a new user?
[07:08] <SlimG> How do I extract an .ISO without root priveleges from CLI ?
[07:08] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : any other cool things I should try with ubuntu
[07:08] <tondar> ?
[07:09] <timmyd> khermans: zmigliozzi[away] : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/108946
[07:09] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : little board
[07:09] <timmyd> i don't think i have  a weird setup though
[07:09] <jjido> Is it that Ubuntu use Metacity as window manager by default?
[07:09] <zmigliozzi[away] > <timmyd> well if you are compiling from source not a package ya that sounds like a compiler error check your gcc or qutever compiler you use
[07:09] <ahura> Ali_ix: Yes, it says lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2007-06-09 ...
[07:09] <strabes> Frogzoo_: ok how do i do that?
[07:09] <khermans> sarixe, yes
[07:09] <sarixe> cool
[07:10] <KEEEEV> khermans, so if i reboot how could i get this users app to autostart?
[07:10] <strabes> Frogzoo_: i'm on the port forwarding page of my router config
[07:10] <khermans> timmyd, i run amd64
[07:10] <khermans> compile amd64 apps all the time
[07:10] <brad_> I don't suppose there is anyone around who knows something about sane and could maybe help me get my scanner working?
[07:10] <Ali_ix> ahura: strange! please check again this: 'ls -al /boot' in a terminal
[07:10] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> hmm cool stuff, you got amarok?
[07:10] <ahura> Ali_ix: Hmm, i guess the problem is with Wubi, because my boot is on /media/host/wubi/root...
[07:10] <khermans> KEEEEV, huh?  on their desktop?
[07:10] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : come on man
[07:10] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : yeah
[07:10] <adamscao> I can visit internet, but not internal network services, ping is ok. can anybody help me ?
[07:10] <zmigliozzi[away] > lol good
[07:10] <KEEEEV> khermans, yes.
[07:10] <timmyd> khermans: did you install libc6-dev?
[07:10] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : something fun and new
[07:11] <khermans> KEEEEV, or add entry to /etc/rc.local, su user, do something
[07:11] <jjido> Cqn Gnome work with a low-footprint window manager? Recommendations?
[07:11] <Ali_ix> ahura: what is wubi? i dont know about it :|
[07:11] <khermans> thats a hack though
[07:11] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar>  you could always get tron advanced
[07:11] <zmigliozzi[away] > lol
[07:11] <khermans> timmyd, yea
[07:11] <sarixe> jjido: yes, fluxbox
[07:11] <khermans> timmyd, build-essential
[07:11] <Ali_ix> ahura: i thought it could be premission issue, but it seems more complex than this
[07:11] <ahura> Ali_ix: It is an alternative ubuntu installer for windows users, its pretty much awesome, but, i guess i am experiencing my first problem right now...
[07:11] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : tron ?
[07:11] <adamscao> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=465606
[07:11] <tondar> whats that
[07:11] <tondar> ?
[07:11] <scorp123> Hi all ....
[07:12] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : there it is the app
[07:12] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> the game lol, the bikes and you have to make people run into your wall you make with it
[07:12] <brad_> Well if anyone is willing to help me out with a sane/scanning issue please PM me.
[07:12] <khermans> timmyd, is this on gutsy?
[07:12] <ahura> Ali_ix: Yes, i guess its a complicated issue too, i'll post a topic on ubuntu/wubi foruns...
[07:12] <Ali_ix> ahura: runs under virtualization? or installed separetly? didnt heard before :}
[07:12] <jjido> sarixe: thanks! I will look for a guide to change the wm
[07:12] <adamscao> this is my problem, can anybody help me ? thanks . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=465606
[07:12] <sarixe> jjido: no prob
[07:12] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : it supposed to works
[07:12] <timmyd> khermans: i think this is feisty
[07:12] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : its called tron
[07:12] <tondar> ?
[07:12] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_> ok where is your problem at?
[07:12] <zmigliozzi[away] > ya
[07:12] <tondar> :D
[07:13] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : no idea how to use wine, i tried to read the manual and instructions but i got so confused
[07:13] <ahura> Ali_ix: It emulates partitions on windows partition... its not virtualization, its a real install... try checking out wubis official website...
[07:13] <ahura> Ali_ix: It's very simple to install...
[07:13] <peepsalot> what's your favorite OSS game?
[07:13] <scorp123> Question regarding runlevels: Is there any special program I need to invoke to add or remove scripts from /etc/rc?.d and /etc/init.d ... or is it OK to do this manually?
[07:13] <khermans> timmyd, try compiling with -m64
[07:13] <phixxor> hey y'alls, I want to put gutsy on a third partition, but I don't know how to tell it not to mess up grub for the rest of the computer
[07:13] <Ali_ix> ahura: thanks for info, i will check
[07:13] <bradvg> Well if anyone is willing to help me out with a sane/scanning issue please PM me. (Just changed my nick.)
[07:13] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> http://www.armagetronad.net/
[07:13] <ahura> Ali_ix: And really thanks for your help! Really, thank you!
[07:13] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_> is wine installed at least?
[07:14] <Ali_ix> ahura: :">
[07:14] <khermans> phixxor, add an entry to grub, or ask in #grub
[07:14] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : yes it is
[07:14] <phixxor> hey does anybody know why the armeggatron version ubuntu has is so old and outdated?
[07:14] <phixxor> ok
[07:14] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_> have you tried to just execute the .exe?
[07:14] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : yes i've tried
[07:14] <zmigliozzi[away] > <zero_> in dont use wine often but in terminal type in winecfg
[07:14] <timmyd> khermans: hm i just noticed m32 was on the command line
[07:14] <zmigliozzi[away] > then add your app to the list
[07:15] <khermans> timmyd, yeah thats for a 32-bit binary
[07:15] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I have installed the dbgsym packages, how do I get valgrind to recognize them?
[07:15] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : already did that
[07:15] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it doesn't seem to load the right libraries
[07:15] <khermans> timmyd, install ia32-libs~n
[07:15] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : oh man, short memory, I had times with that game
[07:15] <tondar> :D
[07:15] <Ali_ix> can i use apt-pinning on feisty? does it work on ubuntu at all?
[07:15] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I've tried using LD_LIBRARY_PATH to override the existing libraries
[07:15] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> anyone have any ideas?
[07:15] <zmigliozzi[away] > haha that or try openareana, its an open source q3
[07:15] <khermans> timmyd, sudo aptitude install ia32-libs~n
[07:16] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : openareana
[07:16] <tondar> ?
[07:16] <KEEEEV> khermans, but if i added that line to  /etc/rc.local wouldnt i still have to enter my root passwd during boot?
[07:16] <scorp123> Is there any special program I need to invoke to add or remove scripts from /etc/rc?.d and /etc/init.d ... or is it OK to do this manually?
[07:16] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, at to /etc/ld.so.confg
[07:16] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> cheers, I'll try that
[07:16] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, then run ldconfig
[07:16] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> http://openarena.ws/
[07:16] <zero_> zmigliozzi[away] : then?
[07:17] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : k
[07:17] <webcrawle> Whenever I start my computer fsck says that the drive has been mounted 24 times without a check and the check is being forced, then it stops/freezes and doesn't go any farther and I can't do anything, if I press enter it does nothing.
[07:17] <khermans> KEEEEV, rc.local runs in root contect and doesnt need password of lower user
[07:17] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar> im boring with linux, i code and do boring stuff lol
[07:17] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : you code too
[07:18] <tondar> lol
[07:18] <KEEEEV> khermans, thank you!
[07:18] <zmigliozzi[away] > lol ya....
[07:18] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : guess thats why I'm board too
[07:18] <khermans> KEEEEV, np
[07:18] <webcrawle> can anyone help?
[07:18] <KEEEEV> khermans, last question! is it ok to remove the exit 0 from  /etc/rc.local
[07:18] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : you code what?
[07:18] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : lang I mean
[07:18] <zero_> help no idea how to use wine, i tried to read the manual and instructions but i got so confused
[07:18] <tondar> ?
[07:18] <khermans> KEEEEV, it will just remain running
[07:18] <sdloveless> /msgchanservlist*ubuntu*
[07:19] <timmyd> khermans: thanks, looks like the makefile i was using was setting -m32. i fixed the makefile. thanks again for the help
[07:19] <khermans> KEEEEV, youll probabyl want to put your user program in the background with & but leave the exit 0
[07:19] <zmigliozzi[away] > <tondar>Been doing c# lately, but I'm going to write a calander syncing app in java more than likely next
[07:19] <khermans> timmyd, yeah np -- it addumed you were on 32-bits
[07:19] <magnetron> zero_: it's usually like this. start the terminal, then cd to the directory where the .exe is. then type wine name.exe
[07:19] <jay_> what is the ubuntu effects channel?
[07:20] <jay_> gnome-startup wont remember any changes i make
[07:20] <adamscao> /ex-chat
[07:20] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : wow, c#, I do c# too
[07:20] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : mono?
[07:20] <jay_> i am adding beryl-manager and when i reboot it's like i never added it
[07:20] <zmigliozzi[away] > VS
[07:20] <zmigliozzi[away] > lol
[07:20] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : you got a yahoo ID or msn ?
[07:20] <khermans> jay_, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:20] <tondar> LOL
[07:20] <zmigliozzi[away] > msn
[07:20] <jay_> khermans did that
[07:20] <zmigliozzi[away] > im not on it much, i mostly just do aim
[07:20] <jay_> no longer there after reboot
[07:20] <khermans> jay_, with save changes?
[07:20] <jay_> yep
[07:20] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : msn ID >> what is it ?
[07:20] <KEEEEV> khermans, example: exit 0
[07:20] <KEEEEV> su /usr/sbin/firestarter
[07:21] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : may I have it
[07:21] <tondar> ?
[07:21] <scorp123> aaah, bots are wonderful ... :)
[07:21] <khermans> jay_, are you logging out correctly?
[07:21] <jay_> uhm yes
[07:21] <zmigliozzi[away] > zmigliozzi@hotmail.com
[07:21] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : hey thanks
[07:21] <khermans> jay_, or just typing reboot?
[07:21] <jay_> system then quit
[07:21] <tondar> zmigliozzi[away] : adding
[07:21] <tondar> ...
[07:21] <magnetron> jay_: #ubuntu-effects
[07:21] <webcrawle> Whenever I start my computer fsck says that the drive has been mounted 24 times without a check and the check is being forced, then it stops/freezes and doesn't go any farther and I can't do anything, if I press enter it does nothing.
[07:21] <scorp123> !init
[07:21] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:21] <jay_> i remember something somewhere about permissions issue that cause that
[07:22] <jay_> but i cant find the site again
[07:22] <khermans> jay_, to see if it is, create a new user, log int, try the same thing
[07:22] <zero_> magnetron: i did that and appears a error with the windows of the app i want to install, it says: A problem was detected with your app. please reinstall the software to correct the problem
[07:22] <khermans> jay_, that will eliminate the software bug assumption
[07:23] <zmigliozzi[away] > wow i really have to go now lol ttyl
[07:23] <jay_> ok i will do that
[07:23] <SoulChild> does ubuntu mean: "I can't configure debian" ???
[07:23] <KEEEEV> whats the site to post info in terminal?
[07:23] <jay_> does anyone know how to use xnest?
[07:23] <magnetron> zero_: you should file a bug report. not all windows software run in wine. http://appdb.winehq.org has a database of apps that work in wine.
[07:24] <Solarion> !ubuntu
[07:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:24] <jay_> so i can open new windows within my session?
[07:24] <KEEEEV> !paste
[07:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <zero_> magnetron: i works already checked the database
[07:24] <zero_> magnetron: it**
[07:24] <magnetron> zero_: did you cd to the directory with the exe?
[07:24] <zero_> magnetron: it is dreamweaver 8
[07:24] <jay_> how do i use xnest?
[07:24] <zero_> magnetron: yes
[07:24] <khermans> jay_, there are many good howtos online
[07:25] <jay_> k
[07:25] <FerrariDreams> Good afternoon!
[07:25] <matux> how can I know the ubuntu version that I have installed
[07:25] <khermans> jay_, gentoo wiki has a great one
[07:25] <FerrariDreams> :)
[07:25] <zero_> magnetron: then wine dreamweaver.exe
[07:25] <KEEEEV> khermans, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24873/ . Dos this look correct?
[07:25] <zero_> magnetron: after that appears the error message
[07:25] <matux> how can I know the ubuntu version that I have installed
[07:25] <khermans> matux, lsb_release -a
[07:25] <matux> thanks
[07:25] <magnetron> zero_: is dreamweaver.exe the installer?
[07:25] <nightyfall> hi an alle
[07:26] <VirtuoS> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-headers-2.6.20-16_2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb
[07:26] <VirtuoS>   Connection failed
[07:26] <zero_> magnetron: ...well i supposed, with that i launch the app
[07:26] <scorp123> jay_: you want to use xnest?
[07:26] <VirtuoS> what is the problem
[07:26] <leobloom> guys I have a huge problem!
[07:26] <FerrariDreams> Me too!
[07:26] <FerrariDreams> I forgot my password to my Ubuntu machine
[07:26] <khermans> KEEEEV, put the exit 0 at the end
[07:26] <FerrariDreams> I'm not finding anything on the documents... probably cause I'm looking at the wrong ones
[07:26] <khermans> KEEEEV, your script needs help though
[07:26] <khermans> heh
[07:27] <leobloom> I changed the cd drive with a dvd drive and now it says atapi falure when I try to instert a disk and I cant even access bios!
[07:27] <Frogzoo_> FerrariDreams: reboot to recovery mode & reset passwd
[07:27] <FerrariDreams> Can somebody plz point me in the right direction? Thanks!
[07:27] <khermans> FerrariDreams, ---> that way
[07:27] <leobloom> I have a big problem!!
[07:27] <leobloom> I cnt access bios anymore
[07:27] <KEEEEV> khermans, yea.. im fresh off the windows boat :)
[07:27] <FerrariDreams> Frogzoo... THANKS!!
[07:27] <FerrariDreams> I'm gonna try that right now!
[07:27] <leobloom> after changing a cd drive with a dvd drive, I get atapi failure!
[07:27] <zero_> magnetron: ...but i am not really sure
[07:27] <BitE> hi
[07:27] <magnetron> zero_: you cannot run it from the windows ntfs partition. you have to make a separate install in ubuntu wine. the installer is usually called setup.exe and can be found on the dreamweaver cd, i guess
[07:27] <khermans> KEEEEV, good to have you!
[07:27] <main2> how can i change the powersettings for my desktop computer?
[07:27] <scorp123> leobloom: maybe you should talk to a PC repair guy then?
[07:27] <khermans> KEEEEV, now what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:27] <main2> i wanne suspend with my powerbutton :)
[07:28] <smast> where do i get codecs for media player?
[07:28] <shiki> could someone help me? i just downloaded the update for ubuntu about an hour or 2 ago and now it won't give me read/write access to 2 of my hard drives
[07:28] <khermans> main2, System -> Prefs -> Power
[07:28] <KEEEEV> khermans, hosting my own domain :)
[07:28] <zero_> magnetron: it is a image how, could i found it?, should i mount it first?
[07:28] <khermans> main2, or check out /etc/acpi/*
[07:28] <magnetron> zero_: yes, then you have to mount it
[07:28] <scorp123> !restricted | smast
[07:28] <ubotu> smast: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:28] <main2> khermans, to be honest with you, im using kubu
[07:29] <zero_> magnetron: so there it goes another question, i have never done that before with ubuntu ^^
[07:29] <BitE> i have edited my patition table and now GRUB doesn't want so start, so I tried to reinstall it from the live CD: i have chrooted the ubuntu filesystem an executed "grub-install /dev/sda" but it odesn't work: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[07:29] <main2> but i cant find anything for it in kubu... > tought that this route maybe could bring me an answer
[07:29] <leobloom> scorp 123 isn't there a way to see whgat's written in the bios thru ubntu?
[07:29] <zero_> magnetron: mount <image> -mountpoint       something like that?
[07:29] <Taromsn> Ok, I tried limiting my upload and download bandwidths, and it still happens.  After 10-15 minutes of torrenting on my Ubuntu box, all internet in the house gets cut off.  The wireless connection stays on, but connection to the internet drops off.  I'm using Feisty, and my ISP is Verizon FIOS.
[07:29] <magnetron> !iso | zero_
[07:29] <ubotu> zero_: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:29] <smast> when i try to play a dvd with media player it tells me that i am missing a plugin
[07:29] <khermans> main2, ahh better help in #kubuntu
[07:29] <smast> and i dont know where to get the plugin
[07:30] <main2> khermans, nobody seems to know
[07:30] <ompaul> !dvd | smast
[07:30] <khermans> main2, i know, look in /etc/acpi
[07:30] <ubotu> smast: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:30] <main2> i'm ignoring people there by continue to spam my question for days :D
[07:30] <scorp123> !restricted | smast
[07:30] <ubotu> smast: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
what does that mea?
[07:30] <smast> mean?
[07:30] <zero_> magnetron: what it means with verify iso using md5?
[07:30] <main2> thanks khermans
[07:30] <scorp123> smast: that you should follow the links people give you?
[07:30] <magnetron> zero_: ignore that part
[07:31] <zero_> magnetron: ok, i will try it out
[07:31] <khermans> main2, np
[07:31] <kalibi> http://support-technique.fr.tc/astuce.htm
yea but i have no idea what to do when i open the links, im new to ubuntu
[07:31] <tha_toadman> has anyone here gotten 'mythtv' working on feisty?
[07:31] <khermans> tha_toadman, many people have
[07:31] <khermans> tha_toadman, search wiki.ubuntu.com for mythtv
[07:32] <magnetron> !anyone
[07:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:32] <aphexxxx> does anyone here use Mint Linux?
[07:32] <tha_toadman> khermans: i can't see to understand how (by following the comm. docs) how mythfilldatabase is running (with prior configuration)?
[07:32] <scorp123> smast: did you try to read what's written there? ... just an idea ;-)
[07:32] <FerrariDreams> Man, I don't know if it's me... but, where the hell is the Ubuntu wiki? I'm just getting to the 'edits' page.
[07:32] <FerrariDreams> :s
[07:32] <scorp123> aphexxxx: yes .... But you are in the wrong channel for MINT questions ...
[07:32] <zero_> !iso | zero_
[07:33] <khermans> tha_toadman, we have mythtv aon fiesty working, here is no issue
[07:33] <aphexxxx> scorp? what is the channel? i couldnt find anyone in #mint or #mintlinux
[07:33] <zero_> !iso
[07:33] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:33] <khermans> tha_toadman, when in doubt check the error and backtrack
[07:33] <dxdemetriou> I don't know what have changed, but after the upgrade to Feisty and noticed low speed for me, the new kernel generic update today changed that. my pc is faster today :D
[07:33] <scorp123> aphexxxx: www.linuxmint.com .... there is a very lovely forum there ( ... and I am one of two mods ... ) :-)
[07:34] <khermans> aphexxxx, it wasnt too difficutl for me to google linx mint irc
[07:35] <tha_toadman> khermans: i followed the guide, but when i installed on 6.10, the guide was very well laid out, now with feisty, 'mythfilldatabase' errors out saying it doesn't have configuration data...yet i don't recall in the guide where it said to do that
[07:35] <scorp123> khermans: yes, he's on the wrong server too ... he should be on spotchat.org ....
[07:35] <khermans> scorp123, yep
[07:35] <FerrariDreams> Sorry to keep on buggin' you guys, but I just can't seem to find what I'm looking for.   How do I reboot in recovery mode?
[07:35] <aphexxxx> khermans: what did you find?
[07:35] <GutenbergCampos> boa tarde
[07:36] <main2> FerrariDreams, in the bootscreen ...
[07:36] <khermans> aphexxxx, i found your answer and you will too once you google it :-)
[07:36] <FerrariDreams> ok... ?
[07:36] <main2> you see the normal Kernel/System to boot + one which says
[07:36] <scorp123> aphexxxx: jesus ... just go to linuxmint.com .... all Info is there, including IRC and everything :-)
[07:36] <aphexxxx> haha
[07:36] <aphexxxx> just messin with u
[07:36] <GutenbergCampos> i need drivers for mirage/steel (vivitar inc)
[07:36] <main2> and one saying 'Ubuntu ... + Recovery mode
[07:36] <aphexxxx> but no seriously
[07:36] <main2> or single mode
[07:36] <aphexxxx> i did have a question
[07:36] <FerrariDreams> main2... ok...
[07:36] <dxdemetriou> are there some safe speed optimizations that can I check myself about disk, usb disks and cpu?
[07:36] <aphexxxx> how would you compare ubuntu to mint?
[07:36] <khermans> tha_toadman, wfm
[07:37] <scorp123> aphexxxx: the same way you would compare Debian to Ubuntu? :-)
[07:37] <nemo_home> Anyone here know of a guide to getting keychain to work properly under ubuntu with gdm ?
[07:37] <PriceChild> aphexxxx, mint is ubuntu with different packages installed by default
[07:37] <PriceChild> scorp123, different comparison
[07:37] <scorp123> PriceChild: not true anymore ...
[07:37] <PriceChild> scorp123, do they have their own repos now? :O
[07:37] <khermans> nemo_home, it already works i believe
[07:37] <aphexxxx> PriceChild: thats it? that constitutes a new Distro?!
[07:37] <nemo_home> simply adding keychain to .bash_profile isn't doing the trick
[07:37] <FerrariDreams> main2:::: I think I have it... :D :D
[07:37] <FerrariDreams> ThANKS
[07:37] <scorp123> PriceChild: Mint 2.0 was just a repackaged Ubuntu ... But they their own repos now.
[07:37] <tha_toadman> khermans: ok
[07:37] <main2> FerrariDreams, o really? :D
[07:38] <scorp123> PriceChild: but they still use some of the feisty repos, that's true ...
[07:38] <nemo_home> khermans: what was hoping for an auth dialog prompt, but not getting it. as a result, all x terms have invalid keychain pid and nothing happens
[07:38] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> khermans I just tried pointing to /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/ and running ldconfig -v, but it isn't trying to load any of the libraries in there...
[07:38] <main2> i hoped that it would be so easy, but i couldnt believe it .. sometimes you just overlook things :D
[07:38] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?
[07:38] <FerrariDreams> main2::: yes... I picked 'recovery mode' kernel or something... and now it's asking    root@MasontyCore:~#
[07:38] <dxdemetriou> I thought to try mint, but from breezy to now I haven't any serious problem with upgrades :)
[07:38] <FerrariDreams> No what?
[07:38] <nemo_home> khermans: if I rerun it in a child dialog I get a gtk auth prompt, but not the usual full screen one I am used to - a small gtk dialog.
[07:38] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, it should!  but thats a weird path
[07:39] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, most people use /usr/local/lib
[07:39] <scorp123> dxdemetriou: to tell you the truth ... Mint is nice, yes ... but it can still break :-)  There are still strange things happening here and there. :-)
[07:39] <khermans> nemo_home, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270794
[07:39] <aphexxxx> in ubuntu how can i config alsamixer to choose my sound card as default instead of my onboad SC? where is the config file located?
[07:39] <scorp123> dxdemetriou: if you have a working system now, then leave it like that. :-)  On the other hand: the more feedback and bug reports we get the better Mint might get one day ....
[07:40] <Mael517> Greetz.
[07:40] <roryy> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: according to 'man ld.so', LD_LIBRARY_PATH is looked at first
[07:40] <nemo_home> khermans: doesn't seem related
[07:40] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> ya, except I downloaded and installed the debug libraries from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[07:40] <tha_toadman> khermans: here's what i get when i run "mythtv-setup"... "there are no channel sources defined..did you run the setup program?"
[07:40] <Flannel> FerrariDreams: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[07:40] <nemo_home> khermans: keychain itself works, I'm just not getting prompted on sign-in from gdm
[07:40] <linuxnub> !alsamixer | aphexxx
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hmmm... I'll try that roryy
[07:40] <FerrariDreams> Flannel::: ON my way... thanks . :)
[07:40] <nemo_home> khermans: thus all my gnome terminals need to be run from one gnome term parent, which is annoying
[07:40] <linuxnub> !alsa | aphexxx
[07:40] <ubotu> aphexxx: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:40] <Erdaron> hello! hwo can I install a package on a computer that doesn't have internet access?
[07:41] <khermans> aphexxxx, man alsamixer
[07:41] <Flannel> Erdaron: sneakernet.  Which package are you looking to install?
[07:41] <roryy> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: how are you testing this? I find 'ldd' useful for this sort of thing.  I've set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to $HOME/usr/lib, and it works as expected
[07:41] <khermans> tha_toadman, i just followed the guide for a frontend
[07:41] <dxdemetriou> scorp123, sure but as time pass the things becomes more easier and safe for new users. the mint is new and some time will make an easier way for upgrades like ubuntu
[07:41] <Erdaron> Flannel: build-essentials
[07:41] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I think there is something stopping those libraries from being loaded
[07:41] <tha_toadman> khermans: doh! i'm trying for a backend
[07:41] <Flannel> Erdaron: Do you have an Ubuntu CD?
[07:41] <adnan_> hi
[07:41] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> is there a permission bit that has to be set on libraries?
[07:41] <adnan_> I want to install avg on my system
[07:41] <adnan_> how do I do it
[07:42] <Erdaron> Flannel: yes - the one I downloaded from the website?
[07:42] <roryy> Erdaron: it's   build-essential     not build-essntials
[07:42] <khermans> tha_toadman, well i have a backend too
[07:42] <Mael517> I want to do some OpenGL C coding on my personal computer just for kicks, but I want to run Apache too.  Should I install desktop or server edition of Ubuntu?
[07:42] <adnan_> anyone
[07:42] <roryy> argh
[07:42] <tha_toadman> khermans: i really believe somthings missing from the community docs...for feisty
[07:42] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, why do you think so?
[07:42] <adnan_> how to install avg in ubuntu
[07:42] <dxdemetriou> scorp123, working system from breezy to feisty.. I didn't see that with another operating system with so many upgrades :D
[07:42] <tha_toadman> khermans: by kinda backend - 7.04 or 6.10?
[07:42] <khermans> adnan, why do you want avh?  use clamav
[07:42] <adnan_> avg
[07:42] <StErGi0s> hello.anyone can help with kbfx?
[07:42] <khermans> tha_toadman, both
[07:42] <Erdaron> roryy: synaptic packet manager doesn't list anything by such name, so I'm presuming it's not installed, my misspelling notwithstanding
[07:42] <adnan_> antivirus software
[07:43] <khermans> tha_toadman, let me check
[07:43] <Flannel> Erdaron: Right, the one you installed Ubuntu with (either the DEsktop or the Alternate).  Put it in (with your computer running), and at a terminal, `sudo apt-cdrom add` then update your packages and you'll see build-essential.
[07:43] <Totem> How do you resize LVM partitions? (Is it even possible?)
[07:43] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> khermans:  just a stab in the dark
[07:43] <adnan_> khermans
[07:43] <FerrariDreams> Flannel::: That worked super. I'm doing that... but, believe it or not, I forgot my username.  Is there a 'listing' for the usernames?
[07:43] <Gast363> Hello everybody, i have a strange behaviour of samba on feisty (7.04). After restart is only works correcty after manually restarting samba (/etc/init.d/samba restart). According to the log files, samba is suppost to be started correctly, but i have no access to the network share until i restart samba manually. Any suggestions about this?
[07:43] <roryy> Erdaron: hrm.  odd, i thought build-essential was on the cd.
[07:43] <Mael517> are desktop & server edition mutually exclusive?  Or does server have everything that comes with desktop?
[07:43] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> the libraries are in the directory, but when I run ldconfig -v it shows that it looks in the directory but doesn't load them
[07:43] <linuxnub> !samba | Gast363
[07:43] <ubotu> Gast363: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:43] <Flannel> Erdaron: You need to add the CD to your repositories first.  And, it is 'build-essential' without an s
[07:44] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, you must be root to run ldconfig
[07:44] <adnan> how do I install AVG in ubuntu
[07:44] <Flannel> FerrariDreams: ls /home/ will give you a few.
[07:44] <khermans> ta_bu_shi_da_yu, sudo ldconfig
[07:44] <FerrariDreams> Kickass!! I'll try that now. :)
[07:44] <roryy> Mael517: the server cd has a different package selection, and there is a server-specific kernel.  They share repositories.
[07:44] <adnan> who can tell me
[07:44] <khermans> adnan, but clamav is free and works nicely
[07:44] <Mael517> thanx.
[07:44] <tha_toadman> khermans: to me, it's as if the guide has you run that setup with configuring anything first...and i've followed it 2x and it keeps dying in the same spot
[07:44] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I ran sudo su
[07:44] <adnan> so is AVG free
[07:44] <khermans> adnan, you can probably just install AVG like anything else, but I wouldnt recommend it
[07:44] <adnan> khermans why not
[07:44] <tha_toadman> khermans: i'm meant *without configuring
[07:45] <khermans> adnan, yes but not open source
[07:45] <Mael517> roryy: but I could install desktop, and still run Apache  and program OpenGL stuff if I wanted to, right?
[07:45] <Flannel> Mael517: Of course
[07:45] <Mael517> awesome.  THanks!
[07:45] <khermans> tha_toadman, what howto are you following
[07:45] <roryy> Mael517: yip.
[07:45] <khermans> ?
[07:45] <adnan> I know
[07:45] <shiki>  just downloaded the update for ubuntu about an hour or 2 ago and now it won't give me read/write access to 2 of my hard drives
[07:46] <Erdaron> build-essential is on the CD, just wasn't installed by default, wee!
[07:46] <tha_toadman> khermans: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend
[07:46] <shiki> any idea what could have caused it?
[07:46] <beni> people I gotta write a paper on the topic of "influence by media on language of british minors". I need a fake teenager conversation. may youi use for about 2 minutes all these abbreviations and do smalltalk? I'd love you for that :)
[07:46] <beni> sup guys :)
[07:46] <FerrariDreams> Sup beni!!
[07:46] <FerrariDreams> LNOG TIME NO SEE!!! :D
[07:46] <Flannel> beni: #ubuntu-offtopic, or somewhere else, thanks.
[07:47] <beni> lmao Flannel WOOO d000d
[07:47] <khermans> tha_toadman, if you are noting issues, why not follow the edgy guide, diff it at that section, and find the real issue?
[07:47] <beni> I love Ferrarey
[07:47] <beni> *fg
[07:47] <tha_toadman> khermans: i keep losing it at section 9 - 3
[07:47] <NickPresta> Guys, I've yet to use Ubuntu Server Edition but what advantages would it have over something like Debian Testing?
[07:47] <FerrariDreams> Ubuntu Server comes with this cool IRC support channel
[07:48] <linuxnub> none i can think of
[07:48] <NickPresta> I didn
[07:48] <Flannel> NickPresta: Ubuntu server is the same as regular Ubuntu version-wise.  It just comes preconfigured with a server kernel (which has some differences to the desktop kernel like disabled PREEMPT).
[07:48] <tha_toadman> khermans: my understanding is that 'mythfilldatabase' can't run unless the 'zap2it' info is setup first - i have the account, i just don't see where a guy is suppose to set that up, according to the feisty guide
[07:48] <roryy> NickPresta: debian testing is bleeding edge, isn't it?  ubuntu server will be version frozen for a particular release
[07:48] <sebas_> what is the command to see all the running programs?
[07:48] <beni> whats the name of this guy who died of drug overdose while he was talking in irc in how much drugs he's doing?
[07:49] <jpb_jpb_jpb> hi!  can anyone tell me how to exit the GUI and work in the ubuntu Text Mode?  i'm not talking about using the little terminal app, i need to actually shut the GUI down
[07:49] <roryy> beni: please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:49] <linuxnub> top
[07:49] <khermans> tha_toadman, oh well then add that info the to db
[07:49] <khermans> update the wiki
[07:49] <EADG> sebas_: ps -e |less or top
[07:49] <roryy> sebas_: 'ps aux' might be what you want
[07:49] <mrsn0> jpb_jpb_jpb you can press ctrl+alt+f1
[07:49] <khermans> sebas_, ps aux
[07:49] <jpb_jpb_jpb> gracias mrsn0!
[07:49] <mrsn0> to get a console login, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to shut down the Gui/X
[07:49] <mrsn0> your welcome :] 
[07:49] <Taromsn> Ok, I tried limiting my upload and download bandwidths, and it still happens.  After 10-15 minutes of torrenting on my Ubuntu box, all internet in the house gets cut off.  The wireless connection stays on, but connection to the internet drops off.  I'm using Feisty, and my ISP is Verizon FIOS.
[07:50] <sebas_> thank you
[07:50] <adnan> who can tell me how I can install AVG in ubuntu
[07:50] <khermans> Taromsn, this is an issue with asynchronous badnwidth
[07:50] <mrsn0> when you want to go back into X, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or restart
[07:50] <Flannel> adnan: If you really want avg, you go to their website, download the .deb version and then double click it to install it.  Or use `dpkg -i [deb file] ` if you're working from a terminal to install it.  But there are Free alternatives in the repositories you might want to take a look at.
[07:50] <mrsn0> then X should reopen on ctrl+alt+f7 tty
[07:50] <linuxnub> !wireless | Taromsn
[07:50] <tha_toadman> khermans: thanks for the info, i'll probably install apache2 and phpmyadmin ..then see what else i can find out
[07:50] <ubotu> Taromsn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:50] <khermans> Taromsn, set your bw to filter to 20% of full bw
[07:50] <tha_toadman> khermans: thanks for your input ;-)
[07:50] <jpb_jpb_jpb> sugar. i just installed ubuntu (in a VMWare virtual machine) and i'm trying to "su - " but it isn't taking my password
[07:50] <khermans> tha_toadman, i dont know if i helped, bot OK!
[07:50] <andrewkk> is this an appropriate place to ask an openoffice question?
[07:51] <adnan> Flannel: would .rpm package mngr work if I tried to use it
[07:51] <adnan> just out of curiosity
[07:51] <Taromsn> khermans, ok, thanks, and I do that in Ktorrent?
[07:51] <adnan> asking
[07:51] <roryy> jpb_jpb_jpb: try 'sudo -i' instead
[07:51] <zipper> !effects
[07:51] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[07:51] <Flannel> adnan: Ubuntu uses .deb packages.  If you want to use a rpm you need to first convert it to a deb, which isn't always safe or smart.  Especially in this case, since there's a deb available.
[07:51] <jpb_jpb_jpb> thanks rory!
[07:51] <khermans> Taromsn, ideally you would do it on your router
[07:52] <khermans> Taromsn, but you can also do it in the kernel, or in the appliation
[07:52] <khermans> Taromsn, i use rtorrent
[07:52] <khermans> there is a max upload speed option
[07:52] <adnan> Flannel: I see
[07:52] <linuxnub> azureus rocks
[07:53] <arooni> if i add things to alias.... are they remembered after i restart the terminal, and computer?  if not, how can i make them persistent?
[07:54] <roryy> arooni: add the alias commands to ~/.bashrc
[07:54] <EADG> arooni: add them to bash.bashrc
[07:54] <ublius> @ linuxnub yes but what is I2P
[07:54] <linuxnub> !I2P
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i2p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <Taromsn> khermans, I'm not quite sure what I need to do
[07:55] <gravemind> hi
[07:55] <icanic> can someone tell me how can I open  linux-restricted-modules and change the DIABLED_MODULES="" to DISABLED_MODULES="nv"?
[07:55] <Erdaron> does anyone have experience compiling RT61 drivers?
[07:55] <gravemind> how to I put songs on my phone
[07:55] <Beta-guy> I'm downloading the KDE packages using Synaptic Package Manager, how can I change Ubuntu from Gnome to KDE?
[07:55] <khermans> linuxnub, how is i2p different from tor?
[07:56] <khermans> Erdaron, i have experience compiling generic drivers
[07:56] <icanic> can someone tell me how can I open  linux-restricted-modules and change the DIABLED_MODULES="" to DISABLED_MODULES="nv"?
[07:56] <khermans> Beta-guy, sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:56] <Erdaron> khermans: the diver is provided by the chipset manufacturer, but when I run make all, it gives errors
[07:57] <khermans> Erdaron, do you need a closed source driver?
[07:57] <Erdaron> khermans: I'm not sure what you mean? I'm new to Linux.
[07:57] <Beta-guy> khermans, I type that in a console?
[07:57] <khermans> icanic, you want to block a driver from being loaded? /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:57] <michael__> hi room :)
[07:57] <kitsune> greyforg: are you here?
[07:58] <kitsune> greyfrog:are you here?
[07:58] <Erdaron> khermans: I'm using the driver linked from the howto on help.ubuntu.com
[07:58] <khermans> Erdaron, the driver is probbaly built into linux by default, you dont need to download dirver slike in windows
[07:58] <EADG> Beta-guy: yes
[07:58] <khermans> usually...
[07:58] <khermans> Beta-guy, yes, but it will remove your Gnome desktop
[07:58] <khermans> and give you KDE
[07:58] <Beta-guy> I suppose it won't make any differance that this linux distro is on my PS3, right?
[07:59] <khermans> Erdaron, what kind of device is it?
[07:59] <Erdaron> khermans: the driver is for a wireless card. I haven't been able to get it to work using built-in drivers, so I decided to go further back, and follow the howto from the start.
[07:59] <khermans> Beta-guy, does KDE work on the PS3 ?
[07:59] <roryy> Erdaron: to compile kernel stuff you probably need an older gcc (used to like that in breezy and even dapper and edgy, i think)
[07:59] <Erdaron> khermans: LInksys WMP54G v4.1, to be exact
[07:59] <khermans> it may not
[07:59] <CientificoLoco> how do I install .tar.bz2 package?
[07:59] <ahura> Ali_ix: Can i post the link of my message on wubi forum here?
[07:59] <linuxnub> !tar | CientificoLoco
[07:59] <ubotu> CientificoLoco: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:00] <Beta-guy> khermans, it shows up as a package for the ppc version of ubuntu
[08:00] <Beta-guy> I can only assume at this point
[08:00] <khermans> Erdaron, then you can try ndiswrapper
[08:00] <kitsune> has anybody else been having issues with putting a window on the edge of a beryl cube? They won't connect at the corner. http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q170/lastHylian/Screenshot.png
[08:00] <roryy> Erdaron: also the linux-headers-generic (or linux-headers-<something>) package
[08:00] <khermans> Beta-guy, go for it
[08:00] <Beta-guy> :D
[08:00] <nikitis> Holy Hell, can ubuntu not read LVM's?
[08:00] <khermans> Beta-guy, let us know if it works
[08:01] <khermans> nikitis, sure it can
[08:01] <CientificoLoco> linuxnub: I have dowloaded this package for to intall second life interfase in my computer I have to move it in a special folder?
[08:01] <linuxnub> working fine here kitsune
[08:01] <radoe> nikitis: Of course it can.
[08:01] <Erdaron> khermans: linux-headers-generic is installed
[08:01] <Beta-guy> khermans, thanks for your help, I'll let you know as soon as it happens, it'll be a while yet (long download)
[08:01] <cod> .
[08:01] <cod> .
[08:01] <khermans> Erdaron, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=548384
[08:01] <michael__> I have looked and googled but still need info, is there an easy to use money manger like gnu cash that does not have many dependencies. all i have is dial up and can only use it in winblow  due to winmodem so i have to install what ever by hand. thanks.
[08:01] <khermans> Beta-guy, np
[08:01] <kitsune> linuxnub: I had it working fine, then I wiped my hard drive and started over. Now I can't get it working
[08:02] <roryy> michael__: what winmodem do you have?
[08:02] <khermans> michael__, you could use google spreadsheets!
[08:02] <khermans> no depends at all
[08:02] <khermans> google finance
[08:02] <khermans> not finance ...
[08:02] <unikon> anyone? i need help recovering my root pw on 6.06 Dapper Drake
[08:03] <khermans> unikon, recovering? you mean resetting it or findout out what it actually was?
[08:03] <Taromsn> khermans, I'm not quite sure what I need to do to set the bandwidth in my router
[08:03] <michael__> i dont understand spread sheets  khermans and im not sure on my winmodem roryy. i plan on getting high speed in the near future but you know how that goes :P
[08:03] <linuxnub> !password recovery
[08:03] <ferronica> what is the difference between Debian and ubuntu ???
[08:03] <Erdaron> khermans: thanks, I will try to follow that thread
[08:03] <WhoNeedszzz> So a friend of my friend told me that since I was going to reinstall to Xubuntu 64-bit, that I should just reinstall and use the driver manager to install nvidia drivers
[08:04] <khermans> unikon, sudo passwd user or john the ripper respectively
[08:04] <scorp123> unikon: google for "password recovery"
[08:04] <WhoNeedszzz> I did that and it seemed to work fine and said to reboot the system
[08:04] <mh512> hi, is there a live CD for ubuntu 7?
[08:04] <WhoNeedszzz> and it said no screens found
[08:04] <khermans> ferronica, good question, ubuntu is a superset of debian
[08:04] <chombee> How to delete old kernels? My GRUB menu is too long
[08:04] <nikitis> khermans, i'm in setup now, and i selected manual for partitioning, and it is not reading my LVM's
[08:04] <scorp123> unikon: http://spinink.net/2006/02/26/lost-root-password/
[08:04] <m1r> hey guys, ubuntu server , i need to change my default keyboard layout to croatian , any help ?
[08:05] <khermans> chombee, sudo aptitude purge linux-image-???
[08:05] <roryy> michael__: fair enough.  i'm using an intel536ep winmodem with ubuntu succesfully.  You can investigate apt-zip to help with dependencies, though I think you need *some* ubuntu computer with network access for that, unfortunately
[08:05] <chombee> khermans -- lets see!
[08:05] <ferronica> khermans: please can you elaborate?
[08:05] <WhoNeedszzz> Has anyone had my problem?
[08:06] <eccentricity> hello everyone, recently installed ubuntu, and my sound isn't working
[08:06] <nikitis> how can you make ubuntu see lvm's?
[08:06] <nikitis> it's not seeing my current ones for install
[08:06] <khermans> chombee, aptitude -O installsize -F '%I %p' search '~i'
[08:06] <PriceChild> nikitis, I'd recommend the alternate install cd for that.
[08:06] <khermans> ferronica, ubuntu is baed on debian, you seem like a bot
[08:06] <nikitis> PriceChild, how is it different?
[08:07] <eccentricity> nothing appears muted or very low, so I'm not sure what the problem is. To make things more confusing, it worked yesterday, but not the day before.
[08:07] <michael__> roryy: i know, thats why i cant wait to get high speed, i have seen ubuntu grow over the years and it looks like 7.10 might come with winmodem drivers. i hope so
[08:07] <PriceChild> nikitis, its text based... and afaik it will handle LVM fine...
[08:07] <PriceChild> nikitis, you might want to get a second opinion though :)
[08:07] <chombee> khermans -- does that list all my installed packages?
[08:07] <adnan> i have installed avg but when I try to run updates I get the message that I do not have permissions. I logged in as su and I still get the message
[08:07] <FerrariDreams> I'm making progress in the password department... I think my username was 'kernel'... LoL
[08:08] <khermans> chombee, nope, lists the onces in order of how much space they consume
[08:08] <mh512> is there a live cd for ubuntu 7?
[08:08] <Flannel> mh512: yeah.  The desktop CD is the liveCD
[08:08] <khermans> mh512, the live cd is the installer
[08:08] <icanic> how to login as root?
[08:08] <adnan> Flannel
[08:08] <mh512> ok thx.
[08:08] <michael__> mh512: yes, www.ubuntu.com
[08:08] <icanic> sudu -s?
[08:08] <FerrariDreams> IT WORKED!!!
[08:08] <khermans> icanic, sudo -i
[08:08] <grischi>  #RKN
[08:08] <FerrariDreams> People... my user name was 'kernel'... and my password was... get this, 'obvious'... ROFLMAO
[08:08] <roryy> icanic: 'sudo -i' is the recommended way
[08:08] <Flannel> adnan: We don't support AVG here, you'll have to ask in their support channels.
[08:08] <icanic> ok
[08:08] <icanic> thx
[08:08] <scorp123> icanic: sudo su -  ... works too :)
[08:09] <khermans> FerrariDreams, did you use john?
[08:09] <icanic> and how to go back :-)
[08:09] <chombee> khermans -- Wow, pyifp is 262Mb!? It's a library for accessing a certain brand of mp3 player
[08:09] <khermans> icanic, exit
[08:09] <eccentricity> reat, now I know several ways to login as root
[08:09] <adnan> I know, but I am sure it is simple
[08:09] <FerrariDreams> john?
[08:09] <icanic> ok
[08:09] <[agatha] > hey guys want to install kde for ubuntu... just apt-get install KDE should work? (without major crashes)?
[08:09] <ferronica> khermans: what you mean ?
[08:09] <eccentricity> and not a single way to get my sound to work consistently
[08:09] <khermans> chombee, you can learn a lot from querying apt :-)
[08:09] <ferronica> khermans: i am not a bot you are bot
[08:09] <Flannel> [agatha] : kubuntu-desktop is the metapackage
[08:09] <FerrariDreams> Ferronica, I vote that you're a bot
[08:09] <[agatha] > hum Flannel  you got me lost there -.-
[08:10] <khermans> [agatha] , sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <scorp123> [agatha] : apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <Flannel> [agatha] : installing 'kubuntu-desktop' will get you that.  installing 'kde' wont
[08:10] <khermans> ferronica, i would have to be programmed very well!
[08:10] <chombee> khermans -- thanls
[08:10] <spasticteapot> How do I get the extra buttons on my logitech mx510  to work?
[08:10] <eccentricity> does *anyone* know how I might fix sound??
[08:10] <[agatha] > ah ok Flannel i see just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:10] <[agatha] > so i can have both right Flannel ?
[08:10] <FerrariDreams> kHermans... please elaborate?
[08:10] <FerrariDreams> LOL
[08:10] <khermans> spasticteapot, there is a nice gentoo howto on xmodmap hacks
[08:10] <Flannel> [agatha] : yep
[08:10] <[agatha] > nice thanks :D
[08:10] <zero_> how can i turn on my wi-fi led?
[08:11] <[agatha] > sorry for the dumb question guys :P
[08:11] <FerrariDreams> zero_ ::: black Sharpie
[08:11] <khermans> FerrariDreams, what do you mean?  how does that make you fell? ok, reminds me of emacs therapist
[08:11] <zero_> FerrariDreams: black sharpie?
[08:11] <scorp123> [agatha] : it wasn't dumb ....
[08:11] <icanic> how to open and edit linux-restricted-modules-common from terminal?
[08:11] <FerrariDreams> Yup. just, you know
[08:11] <FerrariDreams> Black it out.
[08:11] <[agatha] > dunno scorp123  i read you guys and feel so dumb...
[08:11] <khermans> icanic, you dont edit it, it is a package
[08:11] <zero_> mine it's dumb ^^
[08:11] <nikitis> Can you create LVM's with the Live Disk?
[08:11] <eccentricity> I'm using a pretty generic sound blaster card.... nothing appears wrong, where do I even begin to look to fix these sound problems?
[08:11] <icanic> I must change something there
[08:11] <scorp123> [agatha] : oh well ... we all started like that at some point :)
[08:12] <khermans> nikitis, i think you need the alternative installer
[08:12] <zero_> FerrariDreams: what's black sharpie?
[08:12] <khermans> icanic, why?
[08:12] <[agatha] > hihi i guessits only patience... im gonna install that before i forget :P
[08:12] <roryy> !sound | eccentricity
[08:12] <ubotu> eccentricity: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:12] <icanic> because of nvidia graphic driuvers
[08:12] <p1ls> hey, i have wired problem just installed swat 4 on windows, and now fromwine i cannto find  swat 4 .exe file?
[08:12] <ferronica> khermans: can i use debian too for my desktop computer
[08:13] <khermans> ferronica, if you like, but ubuntu is more desktop oriented
[08:13] <icanic> I have opened it with text editor but don't have permission to change it
[08:13] <icanic> ?
[08:13] <khermans> ferronica, and better for laptops
[08:13] <nikitis> khermans, ok
[08:13] <icanic> How do I get permission to change the files?
[08:13] <khermans> icanic, sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[08:13] <khermans> icanic, sudo chmod ...
[08:13] <Flannel> icanic: `gksu gedit /stuff/to/edit`, or `sudo nano /path/to/file`
[08:13] <zero_> how can i turn on my wifi led?
[08:13] <Flannel> khermans: no.  not chmod
[08:13] <icanic> thx
[08:14] <khermans> Flannel, ?
[08:14] <crayzee> Not all hdds have their uuid's listed in /dev/disk/by-uuid and this is causing serious issues
[08:14] <roryy> icanic: what file are you editing?
[08:14] <crayzee> How do I recover? (Just upgraded edgy->feisty)
[08:14] <Flannel> khermans: changing file permissions is NOT the way to edit system files.
[08:14] <aboo0ood> where can i ask abt OOo ?
[08:14] <unikon> khermans check for im
[08:14] <icanic> got it
[08:14] <icanic> thx m8
[08:15] <icanic> must restart
[08:15] <khermans> Flannel, i dont know what the reference was
[08:15] <josue> #ubuntu-es
[08:15] <khermans> Flannel, thought it was ageneral quesiton
[08:15] <Erdaron> how can I get wpasupplicant package on a computer without internet access?
[08:15] <josue> alo
[08:15] <josue> alguien habla espaol?
[08:15] <FerrariDreams> Hola
[08:16] <FerrariDreams> Yup
[08:16] <FerrariDreams> But english is the main course
[08:16] <Jabapyth> does anyone know of a Palm emulator for Linux?
[08:16] <josue> por los demas no hablan espaol
[08:16] <FerrariDreams> nope
[08:16] <Flannel> !es | josue
[08:16] <ubotu> josue: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:16] <roryy> josue: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:16] <[agatha] > josue,  aqui no... /join #ubuntu-es mejor
[08:16] <[agatha] > sorry guys :P
[08:16] <josue> ah ok gracias
[08:16] <oraculum> #ubuntu-br
[08:17] <dave_> how can i enable "flac" codeded file playback
[08:17] <zero_> how can i turn on my wifi led, i have a latitud d610 dell, running ubuntu 7.04?
[08:17] <khermans> joseaa, cuantos anos?
[08:17] <[agatha] > aos even khermans  :P
[08:18] <scorp123> [agatha] : he may not have the possibility to type that character on his keyboard .... ;-)
[08:18] <p1ls> hey, i have wired problem just installed swat 4 on windows, and now fromwine i cannto find  swat 4 .exe file?
[08:18] <khermans> dave_, libflac
[08:18] <unikon> how would i go about using su passwd user command
[08:18] <[agatha] > i suposed so scorp123  but ano  has a slightly different meaning :P
[08:18] <scorp123> [agatha] : oh .... *that* meaning? :-)
[08:18] <khermans> p1ls, ~/.wine/drive_c/...
[08:19] <[agatha] > one of "those" scorp123  yes :D
[08:19] <zero_> ass actually
[08:19] <khermans> unikon, su passwd user
[08:19] <dave_> khermans libflac7 is already installed
[08:19] <khermans> that changes user's password
[08:19] <eccentricity> in the sound preferences, the only selection for which the test sound will work is "multichannel playback" but still I'm left soundless
[08:19] <khermans> dave_, what are you trying to convert and what app?
[08:19] <unikon> khermans in my case su passwd unikon?
[08:19] <dave_> khermans nothing just playback at the mo
[08:19] <dave_> khermans amaro
[08:19] <dave_> k
[08:20] <Flannel> unikon: sudo passwd user, since Ubuntu doesn't use the root account (su won't work).
[08:20] <dave_> khermans amarok running on gnome
[08:20] <unikon>  does it stay passwd or what i remember what my previous pw was
[08:21] <khermans> unikon, yes
[08:22] <khermans> dave_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1252222
[08:23] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me why this code: http://pastie.caboo.se/69124 gives me "./1create_root: 12: Syntax error: Bad substitution" ?
[08:23] <jlee> Man, I just used the ubuntu gnome package manager to re-install the beryl manager
[08:23] <Taromsn> khermans, I'm not quite sure what I need to do, should I change the up and down speeds to 20% of the up and down bandwidths or what?
[08:23] <jlee> now gnome won't work
[08:24] <jlee> I get a blue screen afer logging in with a mouse pointer, and that is it
[08:24] <eccentricity> better off without it
[08:24] <tondar> hey all
[08:24] <jlee> Ubuntu is ticking me off
[08:24] <eccentricity> same here
[08:24] <jlee> this is the second time this has happened
[08:24] <jlee> and I don't know what to do to fix it
[08:24] <jlee> I am a noob
[08:25] <roryy> jlee: maybe ask in #ubuntu-effects about beryl
[08:25] <eccentricity> I just can't get sound working
[08:25] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me why this code: http://pastie.caboo.se/69124 gives me "./1create_root: 12: Syntax error: Bad substitution" ?
[08:25] <jlee> I ran "ps ax | grep beryl", beryl isn't running
[08:25] <tondar> any references I could have about compiling a kernel? and what are its advantages
[08:25] <tondar> ?
[08:25] <slofgren> does anyone know how long 6.10 is support til?
[08:25] <PriceChild> jlee, beryl is alpha software etc. support in #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[08:25] <jlee> gnome is, but nothing shows up on the screen
[08:25] <PriceChild> slofgren, 18 months on the desktop, 3 years on server
[08:25] <roryy> !kernelcompile | tondar
[08:25] <ubotu> tondar: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[08:25] <slofgren> PriceChild: thanks
[08:25] <jlee> PriceChild: I don't care about beryl, I just wana get my gnome working again
[08:26] <PriceChild> !away > foolsout
[08:26] <PriceChild> jlee, I'd suggest you apt-get remove beryl & beryl-manager
[08:26] <FerrariDreams> This will sound dumb, but what things can be done on the net via the text window? No GUI?
[08:26] <sebas_> jlee: #beryl, have you followed correctly the tutorial? Also: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start to start GNOME or restart. someone correct me
[08:26] <tarzeau> FerrariDreams: internet browsing, links2
[08:26] <jlee> YEah, I've had beryl working for 2 months now, and yes, I restarted gnmome
[08:26] <tarzeau> FerrariDreams: chat, text editing, software development, games
[08:26] <jlee> that actually just worked, the third time I did it
[08:26] <angy89> who help me about adsl usb modem?
[08:27] <PriceChild> FerrariDreams, you can get text browsers, irc, instant messengers (msn, aim etc.) file transfers etc.
[08:27] <angy89> it's realy hard
[08:27] <twix> abend
[08:27] <jlee> in the top right corner of gnome on ubuntu, it says 100 updates available, but when I click on it, nothing happens, any ideas/
[08:27] <PriceChild> jlee, double click
[08:27] <agm_> you can see movie in text mode
[08:27] <chump> Can someone help me configure my second display, I can't get the correct resolution.
[08:27] <vbabiy> hey guys any one know how many pic fspot can take as its max
[08:28] <agm_> i once saw star war on telnet
[08:28] <FerrariDreams> tarzeau::: Sorry for more buggin', but, can you direct me to some info-pages for that?
[08:28] <FerrariDreams> Text-only net?
[08:28] <jlee> o
[08:28] <jlee> ok
[08:28] <CapRiCoRN^80> is there any general wireless related channel on freenode other then #wireless
[08:28] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys, I did a fresh reinstall of xubuntu to the 64-bit version and I used the driver manager to reinstall my nvidia drivers and when I restarted it said that no screens could be found
[08:29] <scorp123> FerrariDreams: you can do everything in text mode ... I suggest you start with "w3m", a text mode www browser?
[08:29] <jlee> well, double clicking it doesn't work, right click it and I select show updates, but then it asks me for root password, I type that in however, and then nothing happens
[08:29] <Maartuh> hoi
[08:29] <Maartuh> :)
[08:30] <FerrariDreams> w3m... GOT IT!!! :) :) :)
[08:30] <FerrariDreams> THANKS
[08:30] <WhoNeedszzz> Has anyone had this problem?
[08:30] <Eric_Jardas> FerrariDreams, you can even have graphic browser with no X ;)
[08:30] <Eric_Jardas> Can anyone tell me why this code: http://pastie.caboo.se/69124 gives me "./1create_root: 12: Syntax error: Bad substitution" ?
[08:30] <agm_> here it is telnet://towel.blinkenlights.nl (port 23)
[08:31] <scorp123> FerrariDreams: as sysadmin you most of the time don't have / don't need a GUI anyway :-)  The text shell is so much faster :-)
[08:31] <DrFEAR> hi to all
[08:31] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | agm_
[08:31] <ubotu> agm_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:31] <eccentricity> I hate that the help files for this are written assuming you're using gnome
[08:31] <DrFEAR> I have a problem with my kernel updating....
[08:31] <muffiee> quit
[08:32] <phresh_> Hello, can someone help me with my diskless install of Ubuntu server?
[08:32] <dbzdeath[lappy] > hey uh i have a bit of a problem.. my home partition has ran out of space and now i cannot access it to delete some stuff to free up space i've only been able to access my computer via webmin which i can do stuff but i can't use the shell to access my home partition as it just doesn't load could anyone please help me?
[08:32] <Taromsn> So apparently I have an asynchronous bandwidth problem, specifically with Ktorrent, anyone know how to fix it?
[08:33] <Flannel> dbzdeath[lappy] : Try the recovery console. (choose at grub menu), or if that doesn' work, you'll need a liveCD to do it
[08:33] <DrFEAR> any help? need help about updating my kernel on feisty fawn
[08:33] <dbzdeath[lappy] > Flannel: no i mean i can access it and do most stuff... i just don't want to have to reboot the box i just can't touch the partition at all
[08:33] <DrFEAR> its an error on kernel-generic
[08:34] <jinesh> hi everyone
[08:34] <Dodek> hey, is there any way to install ubuntu in text mode with Desktop live cd?
[08:34] <phresh_> Hello, can someone help me with my diskless install of Ubuntu server?
[08:34] <Flannel> Dodek: No.  You need the alternate CD
[08:35] <jlee> I fixedit
[08:35] <jinesh> can anyone tell me how to convert chm to pdf ?
[08:35] <kraft21> Can anyone help me? I can connect to internet only via "roaming mode"... I would like to connect from network setting so i can use dhcp
[08:35] <Dodek> ok, so is there any way to make gui installer faster?
[08:35] <DrFEAR> jinesh: use gnochm
[08:35] <CapRiCoRN^80> i just configured my wirless card using ndiswrapper i.e ndiswrapper -i drivers then modprobe ndiswrapper and then tried to configured wireless using Adminstration and also wifimanager . but i cannot make it
[08:35] <iulian> someone knows how can I copy files from one computer to another through ssh ?
[08:35] <icanic> I need help... Im going crazy
[08:35] <unikon> im gonna go offline for a bit to do some testing  bbl if i need more help
[08:35] <CapRiCoRN^80> any suggestion ????????
[08:35] <Dodek> iulian: scp
[08:35] <icanic> I need to install my 8800gts
[08:35] <jlee> ok, Emeral theme manager shows lots of awsome themes, but when I click preferences > themes, none of the ones that I see in the emerald theme manager are there, how do I use one that I see in emerald theme manager?
[08:35] <icanic> does someone have that card
[08:35] <jinesh> can anyone tell me how to convert chm to pdf ?
[08:35] <[agatha] > erm... okay guys i finished installing kde... now in the shell appears a blue screen about configuring it...
[08:35] <[agatha] > what to do?
[08:35] <josue> aloooooo
[08:36] <iulian> thanks, dodek, I'll try and write the result
[08:36] <josue> aloo!!! Licenciado!
[08:36] <davo> anyone know how to get ubuntu to install on an old 1997 era Compaq laptop Pentium 155 MHz processor 3.1 GB HDD, 82 MB RAM ??
[08:36] <DrFEAR> I have a problem with my kernel updating in feisty, anyone?
[08:36] <phresh_> I have copied the contents of the Ubuntu ISO to a partition on my Linux box (this is _not_ the partition I am trying to install to) and correctly configured GRUB to load the installation program at boot.  The installation does not progress, however, as it tells me that it cannot locate my CD-ROM drive.  The files needed are all on the HD, but I don't know how to tell the installation that this is the case!  Please help!
[08:36] <Dodek> iulian: scp user1@machine1:/path/to/file user2@machine2:/path/to/file
[08:36] <josue> g
[08:36] <josue> g
[08:36] <josue> gg
[08:36] <josue> g
[08:37] <icanic> Can someone help me with the instalation of 8800GTS drivers?
[08:37] <icanic> I need someone who have that card
[08:37] <icanic> working
[08:37] <icanic> /beg
[08:37] <[agatha] > scorp123,  are you still around here??? *_*
[08:37] <scorp123> [agatha] : yes
[08:37] <zero_> que pasa contigo josue?
[08:37] <scorp123> [agatha] : I'm in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel ....
[08:37] <okonisfree> me llamo alfredo
[08:37] <[agatha] > fine i finished installing the package kubuntu-desktop... now i have a blue screen which says about package configuration...
[08:38] <[agatha] > ah fine
[08:38] <[agatha] > mom
[08:38] <okonisfree> que` tal
[08:38] <okonisfree> Tu` madre es poco gordo.
[08:38] <pauldy> postfix trouble after installing
[08:38] <scorp123> [agatha] : nope why?
[08:38] <pauldy> trouble with connect to transport filter: Connection refused http://www.pastebin.ca/553424
[08:38] <VirtuoS> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.20/linux-headers-2.6.20-16_2.6.20-16.29_i386.deb
[08:38] <VirtuoS>   Connection failed help
[08:39] <[agatha] > because i dont know what to do now with this screen scorp123
[08:39] <phresh_> Anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu server directly from the ISO image?
[08:39] <DrFEAR> I'm stuck in the updating of my kernel on feisty
[08:39] <okonisfree> VirtuoS, have you tried connecting to the internet?
[08:39] <jlee> ok, Emeral theme manager shows lots of awsome themes, but when I click preferences > themes, none of the ones that I see in the emerald theme manager are there, how do I use one that I see in emerald theme manager?  Also when I click fetch themes in the theme manager, it says can't use tar?
[08:39] <zero_> jlee: join #ubuntu-effects
[08:39] <josue> pachino inutilus ad damian prefess at issues frogged
[08:40] <icanic> Can someone help me with the instalation of 8800GTS drivers?
[08:40] <josue> pachino inutilus ad damian prefess at issues frogged
[08:40] <phresh_> DrFEAR: apt-get install kernel'
[08:40] <josue> pachino inutilus ad damian prefess at issues frogged
[08:40] <okonisfree> yes i can icanic
[08:40] <josue> ?
[08:40] <steel_lady> OK, I have serious thing. I can not enter xwindows because we messed up settings and now it doesn't recognize the screen. how to recover x win settings since it says that it is disabled and to restart GDM when configured
[08:40] <okonisfree> pm me
[08:40] <icanic> can we do with PM?
[08:40] <icanic> ok
[08:40] <icanic> .-)
[08:40] <iulian> dodek, I get: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused; I think I should install openssh also on my local machine, right?
[08:41] <WalloO> Hello
[08:41] <phresh_> Anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu server directly from the ISO image?
[08:41] <Dodek> iulian: the source file is on localhost?
[08:41] <TaJMoX> I need help setting a custom display resolution with ATI fglrx.  Editing xorg.conf did nothing, and neither did reconfiguring xserver-xorg.  FGLRX gives me the same modes no matter what I tell it I want.
[08:41] <DrFEAR> phresh: I can't update it, always shows an error with dependencies
[08:41] <iulian> yes
[08:41] <DrFEAR> phresh_: I can't update it, always shows an error with dependencies
[08:41] <Dodek> iulian: you can skip the localhost part - scp /path/to/file user@machine:/destination
[08:41] <phresh_> DrFEAR: Did you "apt-get install kernel"?
[08:41] <josue> pachino inutilus ad damian prefess at issues frogged???
[08:42] <chombee> Which is the best video driver to use? I have a GeForce 7600 GS, but the nvidia driver doesn't seem to work. Installed it with Restricted Drivers Manager, X failed to start. Using vesa driver now, seems to work
[08:42] <okonisfree> icanic..
[08:42] <DrFEAR> phresh_: yep
[08:42] <okonisfree> icanic
[08:42] <phresh_> DrFEAR: (NOTE:  That's _install_ and not _update_)
[08:42] <josue> pachino inutilus ad damian prefess at issues frogged?
[08:42] <DrFEAR> phresh_: install, not update...check
[08:42] <DrFEAR> phresh_: nothing
[08:42] <josue> Luket not pachino inutilus ad damian prefess at issues frogged-??
[08:42] <steel_lady> OK, I have serious thing. I can not enter xwindows because we messed up settings and now it doesn't recognize the screen. how to recover x win settings since it says that it is disabled and to restart GDM when configured
[08:42] <phresh_> DrFEAR: What message do you get when you do this?
[08:42] <WalloO> Chombee: it seems nvidia driver no more work since the last 7.04 update
[08:42] <icanic> okonis
[08:43] <iulian> Dodek, it worked
[08:43] <mintsoup> I am very confused about ATI graphics drivers given the wide range of what people are saying: I have a Radeon 9800--should I use the fglrx driver
[08:43] <chombee> Wallo0 - aj
[08:43] <icanic> I'm sending you pm's
[08:43] <chombee> ah
[08:43] <iulian> Dodek, thanks
[08:43] <okonisfree> pm me icanic
[08:43] <Dodek> iulian: no problem
[08:43] <okonisfree> im not getting ne
[08:43] <TaJMoX> chombee : there are 3 you can try - nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-net       make sure you un-install one before trying the other.
[08:43] <icanic> I did
[08:43] <icanic> ?
[08:43] <okonisfree> hm..
[08:43] <DrFEAR> Couldn't find the kernel package
[08:43] <TaJMoX> chombee : the last one is nvidia-glx-new    not net
[08:43] <DrFEAR> phresh_: Couldn't find the kernel package
[08:43] <WalloO> chombee: I'm looking for a way to fix it, because even installing Nvidia driver from nvidia doesn't work....
[08:44] <phresh_> DrFEAR: It sounds like you haven't got the kernel source installed.
[08:44] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:44] <chombee> Wallo0 -- well, I guess I'll stick with vesa for now, Thanks
[08:44] <WalloO> chomsee: there is an incompatibility with versions
[08:44] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:44] <WhoNeedszzz_> sorry, my connection got messed up, did anyone respond to my question?
[08:44] <okonisfree> yes
[08:44] <okonisfree> i did
[08:44] <DrFEAR> phresh_: but everything is working fine...installing programs and all...
[08:44] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:44] <WhoNeedszzz_> sorry, what was your answer?
[08:44] <icanic> okonis you don't get pm's?
[08:44] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:44] <DrFEAR> phresh_: one day shows up an system update, I selected it....
[08:44] <okonisfree> i said do the thing and wen u press the button u will get a msg sayying complete
[08:45] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:45] <DrFEAR> phresh_: download everything and it can't install
[08:45] <TaJMoX> I need help setting a custom display resolution with ATI fglrx.  Editing xorg.conf did nothing, and neither did reconfiguring xserver-xorg.  FGLRX gives me the same modes no matter what I tell it I want.
[08:45] <WhoNeedszzz_> ?
[08:45] <WalloO> chombee: in your xorg.conf, at driver, write "nv" to use the stardard driver instead of "nvidia", and it will work, but not with nvidia features
[08:45] <DrFEAR> phresh_: it says a dependencies problem
[08:45] <phresh_> DrFEAR: Have you tried "apt-get update"
[08:45] <WhoNeedszzz_> ATI SUCKS
[08:45] <okonisfree> u have vmware?
[08:45] <DrFEAR> phresh_: with linux-generic
[08:45] <okonisfree> or r u using regular computer
[08:45] <icanic> okonisfree?
[08:46] <TaJMoX> Whoneedszzz I have no choice, it's a laptop
[08:46] <chombee> Wallo0 - actually that didn't work, though I'll try again just in case
[08:46] <okonisfree> yes icanic i am not receving ne msgs
[08:46] <phresh_> DrFEAR: That's probably part of the problem -- you're not downloading packages specific for your version of the kernel.
[08:46] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:46] <WhoNeedszzz_> use nvidia...
[08:46] <icanic> can you send pm to me?
[08:46] <TaJMoX> whoneedszzz : and ati linux drivers suck, not ATI sucks
[08:46] <okonisfree> i did
[08:46] <okonisfree> duble click on my name
[08:46] <DrFEAR> phresh_: how do I solve that, sorry I'm kinda semi-newbie
[08:46] <WhoNeedszzz_> ATI sucked for me on windows too
[08:46] <WhoNeedszzz_> died really quickly and I wasn't overclocking it
[08:46] <icanic> don't know why it won't work
[08:46] <okonisfree> too many people talking same time!!! ahhhhhhhh
[08:47] <TaJMoX> whoneedszzz_ well mine have never died.   is that the only problem you have with it ?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <PriceChild> okonisfree, noise like that doesn't help
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:47] <icanic> wtf?
[08:47] <phresh_> DrFEAR: Try updating your current package set with "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:47] <dudley> lol
[08:47] <okonisfree> sry
[08:47] <WhoNeedszzz_> josue GO TO HELL
[08:47] <PriceChild> WhoNeedszzz_, calm down please :)
[08:47] <TaJMoX> WhoNeedszzz_ you're not helpful either
[08:47] <WhoNeedszzz_> i'm kidding ;)
[08:47] <DrFEAR> phresh_: linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic (2.6.20-16.29)
[08:47] <phresh_> Anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu server directly from the ISO image?
[08:47] <mEck0> is there a way to unpack an archive in gnome-commander? I mean like a keyboard-combination like in total commander?
[08:48] <WhoNeedszzz_> so is anyone actually talking to me about nvidia?
[08:48] <Tobias43> Now they even make me have to translate spam? :/
[08:48] <okonisfree> josue, va a el ?channel? de espanol
[08:48] <icanic> okonis, so I got this problem with my 8800GTS every time I install the driver I got error about server x, no screen or something like that. I think that something is wrong with the xorg.config file
[08:48] <WhoNeedszzz_> It won't find screens
[08:48] <TaJMoX> !es | okonisfree
[08:48] <ubotu> okonisfree: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:48] <WhoNeedszzz_> josue is gone
[08:48] <DrFEAR> phresh_: problemas de dependencias - se deja sin configurar, in english: dependencies problems, left without configuring....or something like that
[08:49] <TaJMoX> Oh, josue was speaking french wasn't he?
[08:49] <okonisfree> icanic, did you ever have problems installing ubuntu are r u just getting this now
[08:49] <WhoNeedszzz_> yeah...
[08:49] <PriceChild> icanic, afaik the 8800 won't work with the ubuntu packaged drivers... I think you need to install from nvidia.com but we don't really support that
[08:49] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[08:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:49] <DrFEAR> phresh_: and after it ask me to reboot the system so the upgrading can complete
[08:49] <icanic> I'm getting this every time I try to install driver
[08:49] <okonisfree> ok...1sec
[08:49] <WhoNeedszzz_> icanic, it appears I have the same problem as you
[08:49] <phresh_> DrFEAR: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:50] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[08:50] <aa^way> hello, how to search from files to find up a specified function? maybe some grep and find ?
[08:50] <icanic> it seems like 8800gts cards are not supported
[08:50] <josue> alo
[08:50] <phresh_> DrFEAR: Did you reboot?
[08:50] <josue> Issue Di L`Contre ad ramificae di Fractalis aceress  Cida?
[08:50] <WhoNeedszzz_> that is what i have dammit!
[08:50] <TaJMoX> There are 3 nvidia drivers to try: nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-new nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:50] <todkon> Hello, does anyone know how to get higher resolution then 800x600 on an nvidia card?
[08:50] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  a thousand times
[08:50] <PriceChild> !fr  | josue
[08:50] <ubotu> josue: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:50] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  more or less :S
[08:50] <TaJMoX> looks like this channel turned into an nvidia support channel
[08:50] <aa^way> im thinking like "grep -r *.php / | find find_files_what_has_this_string"
[08:51] <WhoNeedszzz_> what happend to FULL support for nvidia?
[08:51] <okonisfree> ah...so why not try windows and install vmware and do it from there instead lol....i'm just joking but i find linux a pain and also a wonder at the same time... the pain is that not many companies make drivers and hardware compatible with all os
[08:51] <okonisfree> lol ya
[08:51] <icanic> I just wan't my native resolution of 1920*1200
[08:51] <icanic> :-(
[08:51] <WhoNeedszzz_> why isn't 8800 supported?
[08:51] <caner> how can i make an application to start up with boot???
[08:51] <PriceChild> WhoNeedszzz_, bug in packaging sorry.
[08:51] <WhoNeedszzz_> this is messed up
[08:51] <phresh_> DrFEAR: "apt-get -u upgrade"
[08:52] <phresh_> Anyone have any experience installing Ubuntu server directly from the ISO image?
[08:52] <TaJMoX> okonisfree : if you have an nvidia card, there should be no pain if you know something about linux and google
[08:52] <Dodek> caner: add it to /etc/rc.local
[08:52] <WhoNeedszzz_> what do you mean bug in packaging?
[08:52] <okonisfree> JOIN #UBUNTI-HARDWARE
[08:52] <okonisfree> UBUNTU*
[08:52] <icanic> gonna try
[08:52] <PriceChild> WhoNeedszzz_, they made a mistake when packaging the nvidia driver for ubuntu.
[08:52] <TaJMoX> I cant hear you, type louder
[08:52] <okonisfree> lol
[08:52] <SudoBash> lolol
[08:52] <redmozzy_> hi, i know this is a noob question but i cant seem to get a solid answer, I have changed to an intel core 2 duo 6420, is the amd64 version the right 64bit version for me?
[08:52] <WhoNeedszzz_> when will it be fixed?
[08:52] <okonisfree> lolol
[08:53] <kalibi> http://support-technique.fr.tc/astuce.htm
[08:53] <okonisfree> for all your hardware problems with ubuntu, join #ubuntu-hardware
[08:53] <jrib> redmozzy_: you can use either.  32bit will give you less headaches
[08:53] <phresh_> DrFEAR: "apt-get install kernel-image-<version>-<flavor>"
[08:53] <PriceChild> redmozzy_, the i386 and amd64 versions will both work
[08:53] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  it tries to install 4 packages...but the first pack depends on the second one, the second depends on the third, and so on
[08:53] <PriceChild> okonisfree, please don't spam.
[08:53] <roryy> phresh_: i have, though it was a while back.  Not sure what you mean by 'direct from ISO image' -- i burned the CD and installed.
[08:53] <caner> thnk you Dodek
[08:53] <redmozzy_> tnx guys, i have installed the amd64 bit version and all seems good, just a couple of lock-ups made me worry ;)
[08:53] <okonisfree> ok sry pricechild
[08:53] <redmozzy_> tnx again
[08:53] <WhoNeedszzz_> WTF, spell Louisiana right dumbass
[08:54] <okonisfree> Louisiana
[08:54] <phresh_> roryy: I mean installing it _without_ burning a CD.  I don't have a bootable CD-ROM drive on this particular server.
[08:54] <aa^way> hello, how to search from files to find up a specified function? maybe some grep and find ?
[08:54] <WhoNeedszzz_> dude ubuntu-hardware isn't an existing channel
[08:54] <PriceChild> !guidelines > WhoNeedszzz_
[08:54] <roryy> phresh_: hrm.  what's installed on the machine now?
[08:54] <phresh_> CentOS 4
[08:55] <icanic> I think I will go back to windows
[08:55] <WhoNeedszzz_> ok so since the good drivers aren't supported, how do I revert back to the drivers that actually work?
[08:55] <PriceChild> !xconfig | WhoNeedszzz_
[08:55] <ubotu> WhoNeedszzz_: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:55] <PriceChild> WhoNeedszzz_, second command (accept defaults)
[08:55] <phresh_> roryy: If you're not familiar with it, CentOS is a variation on RedHat
[08:55] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  its looking for linux-image, not kernel-image, when i try apt-get install kernel-image-... it says that the package is not found
[08:55] <WhoNeedszzz_> i don't want to use x-server...
[08:56] <phresh_> DrFEAR: "apt-get -f install"
[08:56] <Despero> hey all, I have a dilemma. I am new to Ubuntu and somehow the partition with Ubuntu installed got completely full and now Ubuntu will not even let me boot into it to delete some files
[08:56] <roryy> phresh_: yeah, i know centos.  I don't know, unfortunately, how to help you.  i take it you can't boot from usb or do a netinstall either?
[08:56] <Despero> is there any way to resize the partitions so I can boot back into Ubuntu?
[08:56] <Dodek> Despero: boot from live cd and remove some files
[08:56] <redmozzy_> any recomend irc s/w?  I'm using x-chat atm but used to mirc with scripts
[08:56] <WhoNeedszzz_> despero- very carefully
[08:56] <Despero> okay thank you
[08:56] <ubuntu_laptop> DrFEAR: linux-image-generic-'uname -r'
[08:56] <Dodek> or resize partition from live cd, if you have free space on drive left
[08:56] <Despero> WhoNeedszzz_ careful about what?
[08:56] <lt> how can i make a screenshot from beryl?
[08:56] <WhoNeedszzz_> resizing partion
[08:56] <ubuntu_laptop> DrFEAR: ther eis no kernel-image package
[08:56] <Despero> oh how can I do that, DodeK?
[08:57] <Despero> I do have lots of free space left
[08:57] <WhoNeedszzz_> i tried and i did it wrong and wound up messing it up
[08:57] <ubuntu_laptop> replace -generic with whatever arch you use
[08:57] <phresh_> roryy: I'd possibly be interested in a net install ... Is it possible to install Ubuntu via HTTP like one can with RedHat?
[08:57] <Dodek> Despero: have you got any live cd with ubuntu?
[08:57] <Despero> yes I do
[08:57] <Despero> the one I installed it with
[08:57] <ubuntu_laptop> !install | phresh_
[08:57] <ubotu> phresh_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:57] <WhoNeedszzz_> dodek: live cd doen't mount the HDD
[08:57] <WhoNeedszzz_> hence live CD
[08:57] <Dodek> WhoNeedszzz_: so what?
[08:57] <roryy> phresh_: yeah, i'd recommend the wiki page.  I believe it has netinstall instructions
[08:58] <WhoNeedszzz_> so he can't delte files
[08:58] <ubuntu_laptop> it does
[08:58] <WhoNeedszzz_> delete*
[08:58] <PriceChild> WhoNeedszzz_, it does mount partitions on the drive. Will use swap if availiable for example
[08:58] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: I have scoured the pages you recommended.  I wonder if you would mind taking a moment to address the specific problem I am having?
[08:58] <Dodek> WhoNeedszzz_: and what prevents me from mounting it myself?
[08:58] <WhoNeedszzz_> whatever man
[08:58] <TaJMoX> !changes
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <ubuntu_laptop> phresh_: you want to install from net image is what i saw
[08:58] <WhoNeedszzz_> i'm not here to argue :)
[08:58] <TaJMoX> Where do I find kernel change log?
[08:58] <Dodek> i don't get your point.
[08:58] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: I have already followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux.
[08:59] <Despero> sooooo I just throw my live CD in, boot from it and I should be able to at least delete files?
[08:59] <Dodek> Despero: run live cd, mount partition with ubuntu and delete some files
[08:59] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  same error :S
[08:59] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: I have come across a problem in the installation, though.
[08:59] <Dodek> Despero: not yey
[08:59] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  sorry
[08:59] <Dodek> yet*
[08:59] <ubuntu_laptop> phresh_: what is the issue?
[08:59] <Dodek> Despero: you should mount it first
[08:59] <Despero> Dodek: what do you mean mount?
[08:59] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: I have configured GRUB to boot the installation files from the partition, but the installation stops when it cannot detect the CD-ROM!
[08:59] <Dodek> Despero: "sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && sudo mount /dev/xxxx /mnt/ubuntu"
[09:00] <Dodek> Despero: replace xxxx with your ubuntu partition
[09:00] <Despero> okay so do that and then delete files?
[09:00] <Dodek> you should be able to open the directory then
[09:00] <Dodek> via bash or any gui explorer
[09:01] <ubuntu_laptop> phresh_: nothing i can do with that, either the installer doesnt know that hardware or there is a problem with the cd. did you check the md5sum of the ISO to make sure it was right? did you burn cd at lowest speed possible?
[09:01] <Dodek> argh, ubuntu's gui installer is so slooow...
[09:01] <ubuntu_laptop> phresh_: is this live cd or alternate cd?
[09:01] <blue|palm> Hi there, has anybody got xgl+beryl working with the latest ATI driver?
[09:01] <ubuntu_laptop> blue|palm: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:01] <blue|palm> ubuntu_laptop, thanks
[09:02] <crayzee> /dev/disk/by-uuid is not being fully populated. I think there is an issue with the udev rules that generate it  -65-persistant-storage.rules, but I am unsure how to fix. Any ideas?
[09:02] <Xucrute> I've been using Feisty sice it was release (my first try with linux). Today, after an automatic update, computer was asked to restart. After reboot screen resolution is limited to 800x600. Higher resolutions are available at xorg.conf. My graphics card is ATI Radeon 9200. Until today everything was working fine from install (even beryl).
[09:02] <ubuntu_laptop> crayzee: file a bug if those are the default rules (unchanged by you)
[09:03] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: Perhaps I have misccomunicated.  I downloaded the ISO, mounted it, and copied the files from it to a new partition on one of my HDs.  I created a GRUB entry for the installation, and succesfully launched it from the HD.  The problem I am having is that the installation doesn't seem to care that it is running from the HD -- it still asks for the CD-ROM.
[09:03] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: I followed the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[09:03] <phresh_> ubuntu_laptop: Note -- I am using the LTS Server installation so I had to configure the GRUB entry a little differently due to the differing directory structure.
[09:04] <Heptofite> i need a command or method to download every game in the repositories
[09:04] <ubuntu_laptop> Heptofite: synaptic
[09:04] <PriceChild> Heptofite, use add/remove
[09:04] <Heptofite> will that let me mass select?
[09:04] <Dodek> aptitude.
[09:04] <Heptofite> i don't want to have to click everything by hand
[09:05] <ubuntu_laptop> phresh_: i dont know, i never tried it that way
[09:05] <Xucrute> I've been using Feisty sice it was release (my first try with linux). Today, after an automatic update, computer was asked to restart. After reboot screen resolution is limited to 800x600. Higher resolutions are available at xorg.conf. My graphics card is ATI Radeon 9200. Until today everything was working fine from install (even beryl). How do I fix this? Please dont say I have to reinstall everthing... :(
[09:05] <ubuntu_laptop> Heptofite: there is no meta package for games other than gnome-games or kde-games
[09:06] <PriceChild> !fixres > Xucrute (see pm from ubotu)
[09:06] <ubuntu_laptop> Heptofite: apt-cache search games | less   and look through the list. open another terminal and sudo apt-get install <list the games you want to install>
[09:06] <crayzee> I have solved it - a line contains filesystem|other|crypto, it should instead have filesystem|other|crypto|raid
[09:07] <Xucrute> PriceChild: thanks I'll check it
[09:07] <Halai> hello. from my /home/username folder in nautilus i deleted the "Desktop" folder by mistake and it went to Trash. I restored the contents to my desktop and it appears to be okay if i browse through the terminal, but i don't see anything on my GUI Desktop
[09:07] <pacman> oh, hi
[09:07] <ticky> does anybody know away to copy every .deb package installed in the system to the /var/cache/apt/ dir ?
[09:07] <Halai> any idea what the prob could be?
[09:07] <steel_lady> please can you help me to recover x windows???
[09:08] <Halai> nor do i see a "Desktop" folder in my nautilus home folder
[09:08] <blue|palm> steel_lady, what is the problem?
[09:08] <ubuntu_laptop> ticky: they are already in /var/cache/apt
[09:09] <Quintin_> ticky: that's not practical.
[09:09] <Quintin_> steel_lady: what is the problem?
[09:09] <ticky> Quintin_: why?
[09:09] <blue|palm> ticky, what do you want to achieve?
 my boyfriend messed up configuration of x win and now I can not enter. it says I have weong settings. I tried already with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -pcritical
[09:09] <steel_lady> and also with the same with .high
[09:09] <ticky> ubuntu_laptop: i think i removed them with apt-cache clean
[09:10] <zaggynl> !security
[09:10] <ubotu> If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[09:10] <ticky> blue|palm: i want to burn a cd with them using aptoncd
[09:10] <zaggynl> !server
[09:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[09:10] <Quintin_> ticky: It's not.  Don't argue with me, kthnx.
[09:10] <aricz> haha..
[09:10] <blue|palm> ticky, sure, use a gksu nautilus
[09:10] <ticky> blue|palm: nautilus
[09:10] <ticky> blue|palm: and then?
[09:10] <blue|palm> ticky, type 'gksu nautilus' and fill in the root password, browse to the folder and copy them to somewhere else (like home) then burn!
[09:11] <phresh_> Anyone here have experience installing Ubuntu from Linux without using a CD?
[09:11] <blue|palm> steel_lady, do you know what graphics adapter you are using?
[09:11] <ubuntu_laptop> hint just burn /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:11] <ticky> blue|palm: i don't have all the files i need there.. i think i have run "apt-get clean"
[09:11] <blue|palm> ticky, oh... once they are gone,
[09:11] <AlbertoP> blue|palm, it's gnomesu :)
[09:11] <blue|palm> ticky, oh... once they are gone,
[09:11] <Quintin_> phresh_: pretty easy
[09:11] <ticky> nah...
[09:11] <Quintin_> ticky: they're gone.  forever.
[09:11] <phresh_> Quintin_: Please help! :(
 I don't know but maybe we can descover something on the net by the dell model number?
[09:12] <blue|palm> AlbertoP, really? Ive always used gksu!
[09:12] <blue|palm> steel_lady, sure
[09:12] <AlbertoP> not on suse blue|palm
[09:12] <Quintin_> phresh_: explain your situation
[09:12] <AlbertoP> command not found :-)
[09:12] <phresh_> Quintin_: I have followed the instructions found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux.
[09:12] <ticky> because you can use "apt-get -d" to only download hte files
[09:12] <blue|palm> AlbertoP, is it an ubuntu thing?
[09:12] <AlbertoP> blue|palm, no
[09:12] <ticky> that was for Quintin
[09:12] <AlbertoP> it's gnome :)
[09:12] <ticky> ok. so you don't know
[09:12] <AlbertoP> gksu was abandoned
[09:12] <phresh_> Quintin_: The problem is that as the installation searches from the install CD, it doesn't find it and won't allow me to continue -- despite the fact that the files are all on the HD!
[09:12] <blue|palm> AlbertoP, yeah, but gksu works fine for me, sudo does too for that matter...
[09:13] <AlbertoP> gksu is NOT present on 10.2 :)
[09:13] <aricz> is it possible to have more virtual consoles than ctrl+alt+F1-F6.. ?
[09:13] <ticky> i knoew a way.. but i wanted to know if there was a better way to do it.
[09:13] <Quintin_> aricz: yes
[09:13] <blue|palm> ticky, im not sure if you can recover the .deb files once cleaned away
[09:13] <aricz> Quintin_ : how? :)
[09:13] <Quintin_> ticky: stfu.  kthnx.  they're gone.  stfu.  ok :)
[09:13] <xtknight> gnomesu vs gksu/gksudo?
[09:13] <AlbertoP> oops sorry, I'm in the wrong channel :(
[09:13] <blue|palm> AlbertoP, hehe
[09:13] <AlbertoP> sorry blue|palm ^^
[09:13] <ubuntu_laptop> Quintin_: stop no need to be nasty
[09:13] <xtknight> !stfu
[09:13] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:13] <blue|palm> AlbertoP, your in ubuntu land, np
[09:14] <naknomik> What options do I have in Ubuntu to do Audio/Video chat with people in the Windows and Mac world?
[09:14] <blue|palm> steel_lady, what is your model number?
[09:14] <Quintin_> ubuntu_laptop: there is also no need to be stupid, it doesn't stop some people though.
[09:14] <AlbertoP> blue|palm, hehe. xchat tabs :(
[09:14] <phresh_> Quintin_: Any idea?
[09:14] <Quintin_> aricz: give me a minute..
[09:14] <xtknight> hahah
[09:14] <blue|palm> AlbertoP, indeed :)
[09:14] <phresh_> NOOOOO!
[09:14] <ubuntu_laptop> Quintin_: now stop
[09:14] <Quintin_> idiots
[09:14] <phresh_> Quintin_:
[09:14] <ticky> blue|palm: i think if you use the option "-d" it will only download them. the hard part is tell apt-get which ones you want to install, but you can get the list with apt-cache
[09:15] <steel_lady> blue|palm it is Dell Inspiron C840
[09:15] <xtknight> gksu was abandoned?
[09:15] <AlbertoP> no xtknight, I was thinking to talk on #suse...
[09:15] <phresh_> Bah!  Quintin was going to help me!
[09:15] <xtknight> AlbertoP, ahh
[09:15] <linuxtx> xtknight: gksu is still there
[09:15] <xtknight> phresh_, what do you need help?
[09:15] <AlbertoP> xtknight, sorry. Confused the tab :\
[09:15] <xtknight> what do you need help with*?
[09:16] <phresh_> xtknight: Installing Ubuntu from Linux without using a CD.
[09:16] <blue|palm> steel_lady, one more thing - if you can tell me the error message it gives you (at the blueish screen) It will make things easier... you can just pace it in a pastebin or tell me here
[09:16] <phresh_> xtknight: (i.e. Following these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux)
[09:16] <xtknight> phresh_, which step are you stuck on?
[09:16] <aricz> Do anyone know how to add more virtual consoles than ctrl+alt+F1-F6 ?
[09:16] <phresh_> xtknight: I've done it all -- the installation, however, stops because it can't find the CD-ROM!
[09:17] <erUSUL> aricz: edit /etc/inittab
 nothing of a pastebin since the other laptom can not enter xwindows I am on another one
[09:17] <xtknight> phresh_, what IDE or SATA controller do you have the CD-ROM on?  is it supported fully by Ubuntu?
[09:17] <phresh_> xtknight: I don't have a CD-ROM drive on the machine!
[09:17] <aricz> erUSUL : inittab isn't there..
[09:17] <xtknight> phresh_, oh..right
[09:17] <steel_lady> F<blue|palm> it says: Failed to start xserver It is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view xserver output to diagnose?
[09:17] <naknomik> If I decide to use Ekiga on Ubuntu for Audio/Video chat, what options do my friends in the Windows world have?
[09:17] <KI4IKL> I don't have any resolution above 800x600...wtf?
[09:17] <blue|palm> steel_lady, say yes to that
[09:18] <blue|palm> steel_lady, then look for the line that says EE:
[09:18] <xtknight> phresh_, hm i dont know.  do you have a usb stick?
[09:18] <djezer> Need help figuring out why I can't log on to wireless network. I have the right wep key, but it keeps asking me to enter it over and over again with no error message but no established connection either
[09:18] <aricz> erUSUL : I think ubuntuteam got rid of it.. I'm a newb so, big chance I'm wrong.. :)
[09:18] <phresh_> xtknight: Yes, I do.
[09:18] <erUSUL> aricz: :| err maybe in /etc/event.d/  ???
[09:18] <xtknight> phresh_, big enough?  700M+?
[09:18] <phresh_> xtknight: 4 GB
[09:18] <xtknight> phresh_, there's probably a way to use that.  let's see...
[09:18] <xtknight> !netboot
[09:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:18] <KI4IKL> HOw can I get a higher screen resolution?
[09:18] <linuxtx> naknomik: skype, aim, yahoo messanger
[09:18] <steel_lady> No devices detected Fatal server error: no screens found
[09:18] <chm> hi, any germans here
[09:18] <aricz> erUSUL : nope, no inittab here
[09:18] <zabin> kl4ikL: do this, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:19] <KI4IKL> thanks zabin
[09:19] <xtknight> phresh_, specifiaclly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-ca8e337bdfab6bfa1d064371898775fe1e9e22fd
 No devices detected Fatal server error: no screens found
[09:19] <roryy> chm: #ubuntu-de is a german-language support channel
[09:19] <djezer> Anyone have a clue why I can't establish a connection to my wifi with my laptop running feisty??
[09:19] <chm> ookay
[09:19] <phresh_> xtknight: I'll give this a shot ...
[09:19] <xtknight> phresh_, sorry ive never really done it so i can only help you fidn instructions
[09:19] <xtknight> find*
[09:20] <djezer> I entered the wep key time and time again, but no connection
[09:20] <xtknight> phresh_, why dont you have a cdrom drive?  laptop?
[09:20] <linuxtx> djezer: I bet you have a Broadcom
[09:20] <djezer> linuxtx, Broadcom?
[09:20] <phresh_> xtknight: It just broke on me.
[09:20] <phresh_> xtknight: :(
[09:20] <blue|palm> steel_lady, ok, now are you familiar with the shells? (The command line interfaces)
[09:20] <linuxtx> djezer: the Broadcom wireless card is a pain to get working on linux
[09:20] <xtknight> phresh_, and getting another one is not feasible?  i'm just wondering why you're going the harder route :)
[09:21] <qaldune> linuxtx: true
[09:21] <linuxtx> djezer: do you know what card you have?
[09:21] <chm> wenn ich die 7.04 desktop cd starte (hab nur windows drauf) will er benutzername und passwort, ist das normal?
[09:21] <phresh_> xtknight: This really shouldn't have been an issue!  The installation shouldn't rely on a piece of hardware that is not present!
[09:21] <shiftplusone> Hey, can someone please help me with sound issues I have with linux? When running cpu-eating apps sound seems to go really distorted/noisy/choppy.... is there a way around it?
[09:21] <xtknight> !de | chm
[09:21] <ubotu> chm: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:21] <qaldune> chm: ich glaube nicht
[09:21] <erUSUL> aricz: i get it now... 'sudo cp /etc/event.d/tty5 /etc/event.d/ttyn' where n is the number of tty tou need. Do it as many times as necesary afaics
[09:21] <phresh_> xtknight: I may just abandon my attempt to install Ubuntu server over my CentOS installation.  I was hoping this would be less of a hassle!
[09:21] <xtknight> phresh_, that's like saying it shouldn't rely on a CPU..
[09:21] <chm> thanks
 not much, depends what you want me to do
[09:22] <djezer> linuxtx, nope I just bought the laptop this week. It worked on one connection at a cafe, it just doesn't work here. I can enter a command to find out if you tell me which :)
[09:22] <aricz> erUSUL : aha, thanks, I'll try
[09:22] <phresh_> xtknight: It's distinctly _dissimilar_ to saying that.  The CD-ROM is not an essential piece of hardware -- especially if the installation kernel has just booted from a HD!
[09:22] <blue|palm> steel_lady, noting too difficult... log in with your user name via the console shell (After X crashes) and then 'cd etc/X11/'
[09:23] <xtknight> phresh_, it's all great, it's just that the cd is the only supported way to install it.  you may run into significantly more problems with the other methods, which is why i strongly recommend just getting another cd drive first (you will need it sooner or later, no?)
[09:23] <rflmnz> hello everybody
[09:23] <aricz> erUSUL : didn't do anything..
[09:24] <rflmnz> i'm new on ubuntu and i  can't install GRUB on floppy!
[09:24] <djezer> linuxtx, It's an ibm laptop if that gives any clue
[09:24] <naknomik> linuxtx: how can my friend on yahoo messenger do video chat with me on Ekiga?
[09:24] <chombee> Thanks, person who helped me. The nv driver works, and I don't need the acceleration
[09:24] <PriceChild> rflmnz, what are you trying to achieve?
[09:24] <phresh_> xtknight: I haven't put a CD-ROM into this machine in the past 3 years.  It is strictly a server with little physical interaction.  It is _possible_ that I will need a new drive at some point, I was just hoping that it wouldn't have to be today.
[09:24] <shiftplusone> anyone? sound? help? Sound goes choppy when running games or when cpu usage is high? Any way to fix it? Please?
[09:24] <erUSUL> aricz: you have to reboot for that to take effect.. or maybe 'sudo telinit 3' (3 is the default runlevel?)
[09:24] <xtknight> phresh_, ah ok i can understand that a bit better now.
[09:24] <rflmnz> i've already searched on google and i could'nt find the right slution for me
[09:24] <roryy> erUSUL: 2 is the default
[09:24] <johnnytang24> oops, I made the mistake of doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:25] <xtknight> phresh_, i assumed since you had other linuxes on there you had installed them all by cd and your cd just died
[09:25] <erUSUL> roryy: 'sudo telinit 2'
[09:25] <blue|palm> steel_lady, another thing, what did your bf do to mess up X?
[09:25] <chombee> I need to make 31 small text labels for printing. Each label has different text, not the same, and I want to print, say, 10 on a normal-sized sheet of paper. Which application would make this easiest?
[09:25] <phresh_> xtknight: That is precisely what happened.
[09:25] <rflmnz> i'v installed ubuntu (with grub in /dev/fd0) but when i insert the floppy i get the message "GRUB GEOM ERROR"
[09:25] <phresh_> xtknight: I installed CentOS on this machine a few years back.
[09:26] <linuxtx> djezer: hal-device will list your info
 ok I am there
[09:26] <blue|palm> steel_lady, now 'ls'
[09:26] <linuxtx> djezer: an easier way is to go graphical with device manager
[09:27] <dredhammer> hello real player from the repos will not playback real media files it says it has an application xmap error
[09:27] <djezer> linuxtx, what to you mean by going graphical with device manager?
 I was at my house and he was at his house with it and there is some mouse problem so they told me to tel him to write the comand to reconfigure xserver to fix that. i toild him just to accept defaults but he messed up somewhere, he doesn't have any idea about linux
[09:28] <rflmnz> anyone?
 I have varous xorg configs and stuff
[09:28] <djezer> I'm looking throught the result of hal-device ...
[09:28] <blue|palm> steel_lady, after 'ls' you should see xorg.conf and copies of it (backups really). The backups look like xorg.conf0 or something
[09:28] <icanic> someone who need to instal 8800GTS driver try this http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techzonept.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D154479&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8 and PM me if it works
[09:28] <johnnytang24> I made the mistake of doing a dist-upgrade, and now ubuntu won't boot.  It would hang right after 'Reading script /scripts/init-bottom'.  I reran lilo, and now it says 'mkdir failed: /dev/root already exists', followed by '<other stuff>... cannot open /dev/root: No such device or address', what the heck does that mean?
[09:28] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  thanks for your help
 yes I see it
[09:29] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  I couldn't solve it
[09:29] <linuxtx> djezer: if you have gnome, go to System:Preferences:Hardware Information
[09:29] <blue|palm> steel_lady, good, now you need to try each xorg.conf that you have there till you find one that works, start with the most recent
[09:29] <DrFEAR> phresh_:  maybe I'll try reinstalling
[09:29] <Supaplex> what packages can i choose from to be notified of updates?
[09:29] <linuxtx> djezer: you should be able to check your network card from there
[09:29] <blue|palm> steel_lady, to replace your current one, do this 'sudo cp <xorg.confbackup> xorg.conf
[09:29] <djezer> linuxtx, checking
[09:29] <blue|palm> steel_lady, where <xorg.confbackup> is the filename of the backup you are trying
[09:30] <rflmnz> hey guys, could someone here help me with the "grub geom error"??
[09:30] <FantasticFoo> hey y'all. i'm upgrading to feisty from edgy, and i'm encountering some things that i need advice on:
[09:30] <majmun> i'd like to conduct a survey here, to hear your guy's opinion: do you think, that XRMB2.net is overall a good/cool domain-name or is it a bad one? and if you'd be so kind, you may answer shortly why do you think so
[09:30] <Heptofite> um, what is a good flash player for ubuntu, the gnash or whatever REALLY sucks
[09:31] <johnnytang24> majmun : too confusing
[09:31] <FantasticFoo> there's this little warning that asks me if i want to enable my ati graphics driver, and that it is a restricted driver or something
[09:31] <FantasticFoo> what does this mean?
[09:31] <majmun> because i've got plans and i need a domain-name, this one is a name, i've got yet
[09:31] <johnnytang24> xmrb, xrbm, rbmx, what the heck was that domain again?
[09:31] <Heptofite> where can i get flashplayer-mozilla package?
[09:31] <clownbag> it means enable it fantastic
[09:31] <majmun> yeah, that's the primary problem
[09:31] <FantasticFoo> clownbag: oh
[09:31] <djezer> linuxtx, might this be it: AR5212 802.11abg NIC
[09:31] <FantasticFoo> clownbag: ok thanks.
[09:31] <blue|palm> steel_lady, every time you run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it backs up the one you have. So you should be able to just use the last backup and resume full functionality
[09:31] <rdesh> hmm
[09:31] <clownbag> no problem!
[09:32] <djezer> linuxtx, by Atheros Communications, Inc.
[09:32] <FantasticFoo> and also, after i upgraded, beryl doesn't work.
[09:32] <clownbag> ha, cant help u there
[09:32] <majmun> any more opinions? maybe positive ones? :>
[09:32] <rflmnz> HELLO ANYBODY!
[09:32] <Despero> hey Dodek, are you still here?
[09:32] <FantasticFoo> i had beryl totally set up, and now, it just plain doesn't happen
[09:33] <Despero> I'm in Ubuntu now, booted from Live CD, should I resize my partitions using Ubuntu?
[09:33] <KI4IKL> I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I still can't set my resolution any higher than 800x600
[09:34] <steel_lady> blue|palm ok when I do one trial, how do I check if it works?
[09:34] <Despero> if the partition Ubuntu is on ran out of space and I am now booted from Live CD, should I use the Ubuntu disk partitioner to resize the partitions?
[09:34] <Despero> I tried mounting the drives but I don't know if it worked
[09:34] <blue|palm> steel_lady, sorry, type startx...
[09:35] <jimmygoon> Why can I not resize my "menu bar" to something smaller than 21 px
[09:35] <pasi> KI4IKL, more info, what is your vga-chip?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> ticky: apt-get clean does not remove the .debs from /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:36] <salaah> i have aproblem with my display...everytime i restart X or reboot, the screen gets all messed up and then restarts
[09:36] <redmozzy> l8rs guys
[09:36] <FantasticFoo> also, i'm asked if i want to "remove deprecated packages" or something like this
[09:36] <redmozzy> and girls ;)
[09:36] <icanic> someone here have installed and working 8800gts?
[09:36] <Erich85> Hello all.  My computer is constantly bombarding me with messages that it cannot mount a drive of some sort, and this has persisted repeatedly for some time.
[09:36] <FantasticFoo> should i go on with this removal?
[09:37] <salaah> can some provide some input please?
[09:37] <KI4IKL> I really don't konw...I'll take my video card out later and look...bleh
[09:38] <pasi> salaah, have you looked your logs?
[09:38] <salaah> logs? can u guide me please
[09:38] <linuxtx> djezer: yeah, it's not a Broadcom
[09:38] <Despero> does anyone know if I can add space to my Ubuntu partition using Ubuntu partitioner?
[09:38] <kitsune> greyfrog: are you here?
[09:38] <pasi> KI4IKL, what computer do you have? laptop or so? iwde screen monitor?
[09:38] <salaah> Despero: did u try gparted
[09:38] <Erich85> "Cannot mount value" is what I'm being told again and again, however I'm not trying to mount one.
[09:38] <Erich85> Any ideas?
[09:38] <linuxtx> djezer: still you may want to check out ndiswrapper if linux doesn't have the driver
[09:38] <FantasticFoo> hmm
[09:39] <FantasticFoo> i have an ideab
[09:39] <djezer> linuxtx, ok, I know i got it to work in a cafe, why doesnt it connect here, any ideas?
[09:39] <FantasticFoo> brb
[09:39] <KI4IKL> pasi, it's a really old gateway essential
[09:39] <KI4IKL> it was made for win 98
[09:39] <linuxtx> djezer: you may want to check your wireless router
[09:39] <KI4IKL> Sorry I dunno more about it, my dad gave it to me a few weeks ago.
[09:40] <linuxtx> djezer: sorry to leave you hanging, but I gotta leave
[09:40] <schigh> Hello. Can anyone help me set up my USB speakers?
[09:40] <djezer> linuxtx, i did, it seems fine. It sees my machine but I've still got no net
[09:40] <djezer> linuxtx, ok thanks anyways
[09:40] <linuxtx> SOMEONE TAKE djezer FOR ME!!!
[09:40] <Wolfman2000> Afternoon...woah.  I've never been in an IRC room with over 1K people before.
[09:41] <pasi> salaah, go to console and write "gksudo gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and in end of it you will find reason why
[09:41] <Mr-Dark> Hello.
[09:41] <omha> hey
[09:41] <blue|palm> steel_lady, how is it going?
[09:41] <Mr-Dark> I'm having a problem with Ubuntu Linux after the installation of Beryl.
[09:41] <djezer> Anyone, I'm trying to connect to wifi using a wep encrypted key but it doesnt seem to work here
[09:42] <AnObfuscator> Can anyone here help me with Nvidia drivers on 7.04? 7.04 killed X :-(
[09:42] <blue|palm> salaah, might i ask why your nick is salaah? Any reason for it?
[09:42] <steel_lady> blue|palm I entered from the first trial but now I can not do anything inside because the mouse runs over the screen and hides in the one corner and I can not move it becvause it is just jumping in the corner
[09:42] <salaah> pasi: what should i be seeing?
[09:42] <blue|palm> steel_lady, try rebooting
[09:42] <KI4IKL> pasi, it is a gateway essential 700c...I can't find much more than that
[09:42] <pasi> KI4IKL, go to consoe and write " lspci|grep "Display" "
[09:42] <Mr-Dark> I'm now running Windows, because I somehow screwed up Ubuntu
[09:42] <johnnytang24> I made the mistake of doing a dist-upgrade, and now ubuntu won't boot.  It would hang right after 'Reading script /scripts/init-bottom'.  I reran lilo, and now it says 'mkdir failed: /dev/root already exists', followed by '<other stuff>... cannot open /dev/root: No such device or address', what can I do?
[09:42] <blue|palm> steel_lady, you would never enter with a startx like that anyway (when you normally log in)
[09:43] <pasi> salaah, something with Fatal Error is good start
[09:43] <schigh> Can anyone help me set up my USB speakers? I'm using 32 bit Feisty and I have 5.1 surround sound USB speakers, but sound gets routed to the sound card output jack.
[09:43] <HungryCakes> Ok, so someone here told me I had a problem with asynchronous bandwidth, specifically, with it causing the rest of my network to go down.  The connection to the wireless router is fine, but connection to the internet is lost.  This happens only when I'm torrenting on my Ubuntu box.  Anyone know how to solve this?
[09:43] <sx66> down
[09:43] <HungryCakes> I'm using Ktorrent, Feisty, and my ISP is Verizon FIOS
[09:43] <salaah> pasi: nothing with fatal error
[09:44] <niriven> Anyone have any favorite linux games?
[09:44] <tarzeau> niriven: www.sauerbraten.org
[09:44] <tarzeau> niriven: bub-n-bros.sf.net
[09:44] <tarzeau> niriven: www.mtp-target.org
[09:44] <tarzeau> niriven: nethack
[09:44] <schigh> Can anyone help me set up my USB speakers? I'm using 32 bit Feisty and I have 5.1 surround sound USB speakers, but sound gets routed to the sound card output jack.
[09:44] <salaah> pasi: i dont see anything with fatal error
[09:44] <pasi> salaah, in the last 20 or so lines, does any show any error conditions?
[09:45] <Steve^> What's the new wireless network thing called in 7.04?
[09:45] <Despero> salaah: I am using GParted now, but do you know if I need any unpartitioned free space to grow my current Linux partition?
[09:45] <blue|palm> steel_lady, any luck?
[09:45] <Despero> plus, from what GParted is saying my Ubuntu partition isn't even full but it definitely said it was when I tried to boot into it
[09:46] <salaah> pasi: there are quite a few
[09:46] <LVKeulen> Would anyone care if I'd post my problem too?
[09:46] <blue|palm> Despero, best is to first delete some stuff so you can log in..., then back up your stuff, then resize
[09:46] <salaah> but i dont see anything to do with the display...most of them with my touchpad
[09:46] <LVKeulen> Because this channel seems quite busy.
[09:46] <Despero> blue|palm: I don't have permission to delete any files
[09:46] <Despero> I'm still on Live CD
[09:46] <pasi> salaah: send some examples to me in private
[09:47] <steel_lady>  blue|palm I restarted and mouse runs again in the corner
[09:47] <Despero> I don't even know which drive to delete off of, but I can't find any program files in Ubuntu
[09:47] <Wolfman2000> Is Ubuntu a good distribution for a bunch of 5-6 year olds to play games on?  I'm a little uninformed on that.
[09:47] <roryy> LVKeulen: be a little more specific about your problem; for beryl problems, you could also ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:47] <badmacktuck> hey all
[09:47] <blue|palm> steel_lady, ok, now try the next backup
[09:47] <djezer> trying to connect to a speedstream router using an atheros card on feisty and i get a prompt for the wep key repeatedly but never establish a connection. The key is exactly the same as on the router. Any ideas of anything to try out to fix this?
[09:47] <pasi> LVKeulen, of course. some give a damn, some little more :)
[09:47] <badmacktuck> i need help with the sound on a lenovo 3000 n100
[09:47] <LVKeulen> Okay :)
[09:47] <LVKeulen> Well then...
[09:48] <LVKeulen> I recently installed Beryl.
[09:48] <badmacktuck> crimsun helped me last time
[09:48] <blue|palm> steel_lady, to get back to a console shell, use CTRL+ALT+F1
[09:48] <blue|palm> steel_lady, or F2, or F3 and so on
[09:48] <LVKeulen> I used the guide on Beryl-project.org...
[09:48] <Flannel> Wolfman2000: yeah.  Check out Edubuntu.  However, I wouldn't install Edubuntu (it has a bunch of stuff you won't need in a non-classroom setting, client/server stuff), instead install Ubuntu, and then add in the Edubuntu games/themes/etc
[09:48] <steel_lady>  blue|palm this was the wan that was working before, new ones are when system was messed up
[09:48] <LVKeulen> Well, it seemed to be for nVidia graphics cards, but I have an ATI graphics card.
[09:49] <ipx> Wolfman2000: well, i'd say if not the best its one of the best :)
[09:49] <salaah> pasi: im trying pastebin
[09:49] <Wolfman2000> Flannel: It's not me installing.  It would be my dad, and he's two hours or so away.  He just wanted me to scout out.
[09:49] <LVKeulen> Suddenly, the screen turned white and my mouse disappeared, and the cube could still spin anyway..
[09:49] <HungryCakes> Ok, so someone here told me I had a problem with asynchronous bandwidth, specifically, with it causing the rest of my network to go down.  The connection to the wireless router is fine, but connection to the internet is lost.  This happens only when I'm torrenting on my Ubuntu box.  Anyone know how to solve this?  I'm using Ktorrent, Feisty, and my ISP is Verizon FIOS.Ok, so someone here told me I had a problem with asynchro
[09:49] <pasi> LVKEulen, which one? i did some clusteerfucking recently with one
 it was happening also before but only with PS2 mouse. now it happens with USB mouse too
[09:49] <LVKeulen> pasi, what do you mean with 'which one'?
[09:49] <LVKeulen> 'What guide?'
[09:49] <Flannel> Wolfman2000: Ah, well, Edubuntu might be the easier method then.  Just plain Edubuntu, and then never use the client/server stuff.
[09:49] <LVKeulen> Or Beryl version?
[09:49] <pasi> LVKeulen, give URL
[09:49] <LVKeulen> Ok.
[09:49] <LVKeulen> The download link?
 we changed to USB mouse to avoid that problem but now it happenes even with this one
[09:49] <LVKeulen> Or guide
[09:50] <LVKeulen> I'll give the guide.
[09:50] <pasi> jep
[09:50] <AnObfuscator> I really need some help with Nvidia drivers in 7.04, I can't start X with the "nv" drivers (I get a garbled screen) or with "nvidia" drivers ("no screens found")
[09:50] <LVKeulen> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/06/install-beryl-on-ubuntu-feisty-with-aiglx-for-nvidia-ubuntu-704/
[09:50] <LVKeulen> That's it.
[09:50] <crayzee> Does anyone here have software RAID5?
[09:50] <blue|palm> steel_lady, hmm.... I have no experience when it comes to the mouse on a laptop (its uses the synaptics driver) Maybe you could ask around here for help with that problem? I have 3 laptops running ubuntu with no problem at all...
[09:50] <djezer> can anyone help with my wifi connection, I'm about to kgive up if there's no response
[09:50] <AnObfuscator> I've done some searching but nothing seems to work yet
[09:50] <AnObfuscator> It was working perfectly in 6.10
[09:50] <WillJitsu> what is the proper way to install the Pidgin IM Client?  I don't see it listed in the repositories
[09:50] <blue|palm> steel_lady, sorry I couldnt be of more help...
[09:50] <pasi> LVKeulun, wait for a second
[09:51] <LVKeulen> Okay
[09:51] <KEEEV> AnObfuscator!
[09:51] <KEEEV> i can help
[09:51] <Flannel> !pidgin | WillJitsu
[09:51] <ubotu> WillJitsu: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[09:51] <KEEEV> i've had your same issue
[09:51] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: man getdeb.com
[09:51] <icanic> THANK YOU LORD!! I DID IT
[09:51] <KEEEV> like 1019029309 times
[09:51] <AnObfuscator> KEEV: please do!
[09:51] <KEEEV> and im new to nix
[09:51] <KEEEV> =)
[09:51] <LVKeulen> But pasi, that's not the main problem..
[09:51] <ubunt1> .
[09:51] <KEEEV> PM?
[09:51] <Flannel> !enter
[09:51] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:51] <AnObfuscator> It's happening on my friend's box, too
[09:51] <AnObfuscator> ok
[09:51] <LVKeulen> The main problem is that ubuntu now really fails to start and displays error messages.
[09:51] <icanic> If someone need help installing 8800GTS just ask
[09:51] <Flannel> WillJitsu: Pidgin is still GAIM in Feisty, won't be pidgin until gutsy.
[09:51] <icanic> :-)
[09:51] <ubunt1> !Flanel
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flanel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <Despero> how do I delete files from my Ubuntu installation when I am just using Live CD?
[09:51] <ubunt1> !enter Flannel
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enter flannel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <pasi> LVKeulen, ok. this one works. what is the problem?
[09:51] <Wolfman2000> Flannel: Edubuntu definitely looks like something I can work with.  My dad, though...well, I'll have to hope he can figure out how to format an old hard drive and run from the Live CD. :P
[09:52] <LVKeulen> The problem is..
 but where to search for help? since it happenes with internal mouse, with USB and PS2 mouse, can it be the problem of the motherboard or something? what if it happens in MS win too?
[09:52] <LVKeulen> I modified one of the config files.
[09:52] <Flannel> Wolfman2000: You don't need to format, it'll do that during the installation.
[09:52] <LVKeulen> Just a second..
[09:52] <ubunt1> FLannel
[09:52] <WillJitsu> Flannel: oh ok so I can just install GAIM from the repositories and it's actually the latest Pidgin?
[09:52] <ubunt1> !enter
[09:52] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:52] <schigh> Can anyone help me set up my USB speakers? I'm using 32 bit Feisty and I have 5.1 surround sound USB speakers, but sound gets routed to the sound card output jack.
[09:52] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: getde.com
[09:52] <LVKeulen> No wait, that's the wrong guide.
[09:52] <LVKeulen> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Feisty_with_nVidia
[09:52] <LVKeulen> That's the one i used
[09:52] <Flannel> WillJitsu: no, Pidgin is v2.0 GAIM is last beta (beta 6) prior to the 2.0 release
[09:52] <djezer> Ok so NO ONE can help with a wifi connection here -- this sucks
[09:53] <blue|palm> steel_lady, it would be interesting to find out if it occurs in MS Win, but it sounds like an X problem
[09:53] <LVKeulen> Now it fails loading the 'X server' or something.
[09:53] <abzde> anyone ever gotten a vec usb foot pedal to work in feisty? (i've heard that they usually register as joysticks, but none are showing up when i plug it in)
[09:53] <Despero> does anyone know how I can delete files from my actual Ubuntu installation when I'm just booted from Live CD?
[09:53] <sebas_> i'm installing ubuntu but it fails resizing the ntfs partition "check filesystem", what should I do?
[09:53] <blue|palm> Does anybody here know anything about your mouse wondering off into a corner of the screen? And how to fix it?
[09:53] <AnObfuscator> Keev: did you get my pm? I'm not sure I sent it properly, this is a new IRC client to me, and it has an odd pm gui thing
[09:53] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: pidgin is the next release of gaim.
[09:53] <pasi> LVKeulen, that quide does not work with current Feisty
[09:54] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: gaim was the beta
[09:54] <LVKeulen> I'm really new to Ubuntu.
[09:54] <abzde> smash the mouse against the desk until it break, if the problem presists, the problem isn't with the mouse :P
[09:54] <Flannel> Despero: you'll need to mount the partition, and then you can delete files within that mount. Did the recovery console not successfully boot for you?
[09:54] <LVKeulen> Anyway, Ubuntu's
[09:54] <WillJitsu> ubunt1: ok how do I install the latest pidgin?
[09:54] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: getdeb.com
[09:54] <LVKeulen> 'graphical interface' doesn't want to start.
[09:54] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: this site is for ubuntu software
[09:54] <WillJitsu> ubunt1: in a web browser?
[09:54] <pasi> LVKeulen, with firs guide you sent, it will work. now reverse anything what you did with later one and try a
[09:54] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: there have games like counter strike
[09:54] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: yes
[09:54] <sx66> !synergy
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synergy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <LVKeulen> I can't reverse anything..
[09:55] <kane77> anybody has BOINC installed? I had it in dapper but now I cant get it to work...
[09:55] <LVKeulen> Well~
[09:55] <LVKeulen> I'm getting some sort of terminal.
[09:55] <Despero> Flannel: should I just try booting into the recovery option instead of the normal Ubuntu installation?
[09:55] <LVKeulen> I don't know how to revert any of my settings..
[09:55] <WillJitsu> ubunt1: hmm I can't seem to go to that site
[09:55] <pasi> LVKeulen, why not?
[09:55] <LVKeulen> Well...
[09:55] <icanic> can someone tell me how to install beryl?
[09:55] <LVKeulen> I don't know how to revert stuff with the terminal
[09:55] <Despero> because right now I'm on Live CD
[09:55] <LVKeulen> I just installed ubuntu
[09:55] <HungryCakes> Ok, so someone here told me I had a problem with asynchronous bandwidth, specifically, with it causing the rest of my network to go down.  The connection to the wireless router is fine, but connection to the internet is lost.  This happens only when I'm torrenting on my Ubuntu box.  Anyone know how to solve this?  I'm using Ktorrent, Feisty, and my ISP is Verizon FIOS.
[09:56] <Flannel> Despero: At your GRUB prompt, yeah.  Try the recovery console.  I don't think that requires any writing to home.
[09:56] <schigh> Can anyone help me set up my USB speakers? I'm using 32 bit Feisty and I have 5.1 surround sound USB speakers, but sound gets routed to the sound card output jack.
[09:56] <joe3> I need some help with reinstalling LAMP through an SSH interface, any takers?
[09:56] <sebas_> please, who can help me?  i'm installing ubuntu but it fails resizing the ntfs partition "check filesystem", what should I do?
[09:56] <Flannel> !anyone | joe3
[09:56] <ubotu> joe3: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:56] <Despero> thanks
[09:56] <EADG> HungryCakes: try rtorrent, it lets you set up/down speeds. Not sure how to do that in Ktorrent.
[09:56] <SlimeyPete> godt_lobtab: because it's being included in the gutsy release.
[09:56] <ubunt1> WillJitsu:
[09:56] <ubunt1> http://www.getdeb.net/
[09:56] <blue|palm> godt_lobtab, I wonder too...
[09:56] <Flannel> godt_lobtab: because Ubuntu freezes versions of software in the repositories (except fixes), and Pidgin was released too late for Feisty.
[09:57] <LVKeulen> So..
[09:57] <LVKeulen> Is there any way to 'revert' settings through the terminal?
[09:57] <blue|palm> SlimeyPete, I cant accept the ubuntu team's philosophy on updates though...
[09:57] <HungryCakes> EADG: Ok, but what would I do after getting rtorrent?
[09:57] <godt_lobtab> SlimeyPete: i see.
[09:57] <Flannel> LVKeulen: revert what kind of settings?
[09:57] <ubunt1> Nexuiz is a fast-paced, chaotic, and intense multiplayer first-person shooter game, focused on providing basic, old style deathmatch. It is extremely modder-friendly.
[09:57] <HungryCakes> EADG:  I know how to set up/down speeds
 it is crazy, it runs to the corner like mouse to the hole
[09:57] <LVKeulen> I made some settings for Beryl to 'work'...
[09:57] <dasos> HungryCakes, it might be the number of connections you have
[09:57] <HungryCakes> EADG:  I just don't know what the problem is or what I should do
[09:57] <joe3> what commands would I use to reinstall lamp through an SSH connection? I totally borked my GRUB and superblock settings, and lamp is still loading, but I'd like to start over
[09:57] <sushubh> i need help with installing ubuntu
[09:58] <LVKeulen> But it was for another graphics card (nVidia, i have ATI.)
[09:58] <EADG> HungryCakes: Install it, open a torrent then hit the "S" key to increment upload speed by 5Kb
[09:58] <Flannel> LVKeulen: What files did you edit?
[09:58] <blue|palm> SlimeyPete, steel_lady nobody has replied yet...
[09:58] <LVKeulen> Well..
[09:58] <LVKeulen> Let me see..
[09:58] <LVKeulen> I believe it is ./beryl-install-script
[09:58] <Flannel> joe3: reinstalling LAMP won't help anything with GRUB
[09:58] <sushubh> can anyone help installing ubuntu for me? :P
[09:58] <LVKeulen> And..
[09:58] <R00tBreaker> does anyone know how to install the latest ATI drivers in ubuntu?  i've already downloaded the .run file
[09:58] <pasi> LVKeulen, you can always try in console: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[09:59] <LVKeulen> Alright..
[09:59] <LVKeulen> What does that do anyway? :|
[09:59] <HungryCakes> What's a reasonable global connection limit?
[09:59] <WillJitsu> ubunt1: ok now I have the pidgin_2.0.1-1~getdeb2_i386.deb file.  what do I do from here?
[09:59] <HungryCakes> It's default was 800
[09:59] <dasos> HungryCakes, try 100
[09:59] <Flannel> LVKeulen: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support.  Most people here won't know much about it
[09:59] <dasos> that seems way too high, it would usually kill my router
[09:59] <LVKeulen> Alright.
[09:59] <aroo> !deb > WillJitsu
[09:59] <LVKeulen> Thanks for all the help guys. :)
[09:59] <pasi> that should revert your vgaconfig to original.
[09:59] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: press on the deb file
[09:59] <R00tBreaker> does anyone know how to install the latest ATI drivers in ubuntu?  i've already downloaded the .run file
[10:00] <PriceChild> WillJitsu, 3rd party applications/packages aren't supported in here.
[10:00] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: press on the deb file
[10:00] <hammedhaaret> hi. I was wondering how you delete some of the many themes I've made for ubuntu... right now they're all just filling up in the themes menu..
[10:00] <HungryCakes> dasos: Ah, so that might've been my problem?
[10:00] <PriceChild> WillJitsu, if that breaks then sorry. Make sure you trust the provider.
[10:00] <aroo> PriceChild, he was asking how to use .deb packages, not how to use a 3rd party app
[10:00] <dasos> HungryCakes, not sure, but i had problems related to that, turn it down and see what happens =)
[10:00] <pasi> salaah, nothing comes from you?
[10:02] <HungryCakes> dasos: Alright, so if I suddenly leave the channel, assume it's not fixed?
[10:02] <minseong> Hey, do you know how to get source code of ubuntu gusty?
[10:02] <okiaro> hey guys
[10:03] <Erich85> Ubuntu repeatedly tells me, through error messages, "Cannot Mount Volume".  I'm not doing anything to prompt this, any ideas?
[10:03] <roryy> !source | minseong
[10:03] <ubotu> minseong: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:03] <bruenig> minseong, what do you mean? distros don't generally have much source code as they are just a group of applications combined together and a kernel
[10:03] <R00tBreaker> does anyone know how to install the latest ATI drivers in ubuntu?  i've already downloaded the .run file
[10:04] <bruenig> you can get the source for each application and kernel
[10:04] <kane77> how do I run two programs at once?
[10:04] <aamy> hi, total newbie. just downloaded the latest release of ubuntu and running off of the live cd. Before installing on my hard drive, i want to make sure my multiple monitor (3) setup will work with ubuntu. Right now only one monitor is active. How do I get the others to come on?
[10:04] <WillJitsu> ubunt1: how would I go about uninstalling pidgin if I decided I didn't want it anymore?
[10:04] <roryy> kane77: on the command-line?      firstprogram &     then    secondprogram
[10:04] <cman321> aamy see ubuntuguide.org
[10:04] <bruenig> !xinerama | aamy
[10:04] <minseong> OK. But I don't know the name of the packagename
[10:05] <ubotu> aamy: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:05] <bruenig> minseong, what are trying to see the source for specifically?
[10:05] <bruenig> which application
[10:05] <minseong> Gusty source code
[10:05] <xor_>      ?
[10:05] <roryy> heh
[10:05] <kane77> roryy, thx :)
[10:05] <minseong> the current draft one
[10:05] <kane77> !ru
[10:05] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:05] <ignacio> hola
[10:05] <xor_> u menja vse normalno s kodirovkoi?
[10:06] <aamy> in windows, the monitors work as three seperate displays rather than one large display. will this be possible in ubuntu?
[10:06] <ubunt1> WillJitsu: now synaptic
[10:06] <ignacio> spain
[10:06] <blue|palm> Does anybody know anything about your mouse going rogue? It runs off into the corner of the screen... and stays put
[10:06] <bruenig> aamy, probably will be tough
[10:06] <ignacio> hello
[10:06] <aamy> !DualHead
[10:06] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:06] <bruenig> aamy, how does the mouse work?
[10:07] <xor_> do u speak russian?
[10:07] <bruenig> !ru | xor_
[10:07] <ubotu> xor_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:07] <ubunt1> who speak Russian
[10:07] <blue|palm> aamy its easy... if you have nvidia
[10:07] <minseong> Does anyone knows how to get ubuntu gusty source code the current one?
[10:07] <ubunt1> xor_ skaji chelovek
[10:07] <kane77> minseong, launchpad?
[10:07] <Erich85>  Ubuntu repeatedly tells me, through error messages, "Cannot Mount Volume".  I'm not doing anything to prompt this, any ideas?
[10:07] <hammedhaaret>  hi again. I was wondering how I delete some of the many themes I've made for ubuntu... right now they're all just filling up in the themes menu..
[10:07] <bruenig> minseong, seriously that is a nonsensical question, ubuntu doesn't have source code, it is a collection of applications and a kernel
[10:07] <xor_> ubunt1:  ?
[10:08] <xor_> 
[10:08] <xor_> =)
[10:08] <ubunt1> xor_: aha
[10:08] <bruenig> it has some in house stuff like add/remove I guess which would have source, that is it though
[10:08] <Chago> people, I have had installed Limewire and it is not working...how I should uninstall or to repair it
[10:08] <Chago> ???
[10:08] <jrib> !ru | ubunt1
[10:08] <ubotu> ubunt1:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:08] <bruenig> Chago, how did you install it
[10:08] <sebas_> do I need to run chkdsk from windows to repair a ntfs partition to install ubuntu?
[10:08] <GigaClon> uhh fdisk -l isn't given me anything
[10:08] <bruenig> GigaClon, sudo fdisk -l
[10:08] <Chago> oooh...wait
[10:08] <ubunt1> xor_:
[10:08] <KimmoKe> how do i tell my ubuntu that i don't want X11? or is there a package for vim hilighters that don't push vim-gui to me?
[10:08] <pcgigabyte> okay little help please
[10:09] <pcgigabyte> this is a computer related issue. what is the black thing that holds the heatsink to the board called?
[10:09] <Erich85>  Ubuntu repeatedly tells me, through error messages, "Cannot Mount Volume".  I'm not doing anything to prompt this, any ideas?
[10:09] <aschmitz> Okay, I have a problem and I think I know the solution, but I'm not sure how to do it. I have a RAID array (software) that's mounted under /var. The problem is that I added the array to fstab by hand, so I'm not sure it's in the right place. Anyway, it works fine when the system's running, but networking isn't started. It works if I start it after the system is loaded, but it seems to be failing because /var isn't mounted when it
[10:09] <aschmitz>  tries to run. It also doesn't log any errors, because /var/log doesn't exist either at that point. How can I make /etc/init.d/networking wait until /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid is done?
[10:09] <ubunt1> !ru  | jrib
[10:09] <ubotu> jrib:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:09] <Chago> I'd downloaded a .deb file and double click on that
[10:09] <bruenig> Chago, sudo apt-get remove limewire perhaps
[10:10] <kane77> can anybody help me to set up boinc?
[10:10] <sebas_> hi alexx
[10:10] <Chago> bruenig: tks, let me see
[10:10] <aschmitz> kane77: Feisty?
[10:10] <kane77> aschmitz, yep
[10:10] <joe3> I have a LAMP system that is throwing up some very strange error messages, it keeps saying I have a bad superblock and tells me to run E2fsck but if I exit the special terminal it drops me in, ubuntu is running just fine, what do these error messages mean?
[10:10] <minseong> The things I want right now is that of not compiled codes of Ubuntu (gusty)
[10:10] <aschmitz> kane77: Do you have universe/multiverse enabled?
[10:11] <kane77> I guess so...
[10:11] <alexx> hey, i'm using live CD and i want to install ubuntu without removing windows, but i can't seem to resize the partitions, anybody knows why?
[10:11] <bruenig> alexx, defrag if you haven't
[10:11] <alexx> in windows?
[10:11] <sushubh> alexx: i have the same issue.. i am confused with partitioning
[10:11] <cman321> make sure windows was shutdown correctly last time.
[10:11] <bruenig> alexx, yes
[10:11] <sushubh> i want to install ubuntu on the D: partition
[10:11] <aschmitz> kane77: Should just be under "Add/Remove Applications" if you're using the desktop version. You're looking for Boinc manager
[10:11] <sushubh> how do i go about it?
[10:12] <bruenig> sushubh, set it to automatically set it up for you, or do it manually if you have a specific setup you want, I have mine setup with root home and swap partitions
[10:12] <sushubh> well i have five partitions...
[10:12] <sushubh> c: has windows
[10:12] <Chago> bruenig: don't work!!!
[10:12] <sushubh> i want to dedicate d to ubuntu
[10:12] <sushubh> its totally emptu
[10:12] <bruenig> Chago, what the name of the deb
, still nothing? I can not work or do anything :-( how to know if it is a hardware prob?
[10:12] <sushubh> i cant seem to find a way to tell the isntaller to pick up that pratition
[10:13] <minseong> Hello. I don't know what this file is.. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Contents-i386.gz
[10:13] <roryy> Erich85: do you see anything in System -> Admin -> System log ?
[10:13] <roryy> Erich85: if there's nothing there, take a look at the output of dmesg ( Alt+F2, type 'gnome-terminal' and press enter, then type 'dmesg' and press enter)
[10:13] <cman321> I find the easiest way is to delete D: partition and then just tell ubuntu to use the largest free space available.
[10:13] <blue|palm> steel_lady, do you have a live cd somewhere?
[10:13] <Chago> Bruenig: LimeWireLinux.deb
[10:13] <sushubh> but i have 4 partitions
[10:13] <sushubh> all empty
[10:13] <bruenig> Chago, do you have a link
[10:13] <sushubh> equal size
[10:13] <alexx> bruenig: the problem i have is that when i use gparted, an error pops up when i try to resize and create the other 2 or 3 partitions por ubuntu, should i defrag?
[10:13] <sushubh> its a brand new hard disk :P 250 gigs
[10:13] <sushubh> five partitions of 50 gigs each
[10:13] <blue|palm> steel_lady, you can test if its a hardware problem by popping in a livecd and trying out the OS that loads up
[10:13] <bruenig> alexx, defrag windows, you probably got files strewn all across that partition and so it can't resize it without losing them
[10:13] <Chago> do you mean Lime's web site?
[10:14] <bruenig> Chago, direct link to that file
[10:14] <alexx> bruenig: thanks, i'll try that
[10:14] <sushubh> it seems to be trying to get free space from c: :(
[10:14] <sushubh> i dont want to touch that pratition
[10:14] <gonnaeatthat> anyone use amarok in here?
[10:14] <bruenig> sushubh, do it manually, it is very easy
[10:14] <Chago> www.limewire.com
[10:15] <gonnaeatthat> i need to find out how to get the open folder function to recognize my mounted windows hard drive
[10:15] <bruenig> Chago, direct link to that file, whatever you clicked on the download it, that one
[10:15] <sushubh> i get four options
[10:15] <minseong> bruenig: I really want to know what is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Contents-i386.gz is
[10:15] <sushubh> resize, use entire disk, use  largest contigeous and manual...
[10:15] <sushubh> which one to hcoose
 but it happens in microsoft also! so it has to be a hardware thing, no?
[10:15] <shiftplusone> hey, is new hardware detected automatically?
[10:15] <sebas_> do I have to run chkdsk from windows if i'm having troubles with resizing the NTFS partition to install ubuntu?
[10:16] <aamy> Question: A couple of years ago, I had installed Suse 10.0 in an attempt to move away from Windows, A friend created a dual boot setup. In the end it didn't work out because most of my hardware wasn't compatible. Now I'm trying to install Ubuntu using dual-boot config. I already have the boot loader that came with Suse installed in MBR. Now what should I do before installing Ubuntu? I'm sure Ubuntu comes with its own bootloader?
[10:16] <bruenig> minseong, that is a list of all the possible files you could have from the packages
[10:16] <blue|palm> steel_lady, Wow... its hardware for sure then
[10:16] <techjim> hey guys.  I'm resizing a 107gb ntfs partition.  Any tips?  I think gparted gave me some news about how I freed too much space.
[10:16] <sebas_> aamy: ubuntu uses GRUB as the default boot loader
[10:16] <blue|palm> steel_lady, sorry for not being able to help fix it, and keep your bf away from touching the xorg.conf :)
[10:16] <sebas_> !GRUB | aamy
[10:16] <ubotu> aamy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:17] <minseong> Thanks.. So then what is the source code of ubuntu that people so-called?
[10:17] <aschmitz> Hey, how can I keep an init.d script (networking) from starting until another one finishes (mdadm-raid)?
[10:17] <techjim> hey guys.  I'm resizing a 107gb ntfs partition.  Any tips?  I think gparted gave me some news about how I freed too much space.
[10:17] <gonnaeatthat> speaking of grub is there a way to delete a version of the kernel from the list
[10:17] <gonnaeatthat> i just upgraded to .16 but have .14 and .15 still selectable
[10:17] <icanic> how to enable GLX not available: either the GLX extension is not
[10:17] <icanic> available on this X server, or there was a problem
[10:17] <icanic> retrieving GLX information from the X server.
[10:17] <aamy> Okay, and what does SUSE use? If I already have GRUB installed in my MBR, and want to remove Suse and put Ubuntu in its place, what steps would I  need to take?
[10:17] <GigaClon> gonnaeatthat, uninstall them from synaptic
[10:18] <gonnaeatthat> ah okay giga
[10:18] <gonnaeatthat> thanks didnt think it would be that simple
[10:18] <cman321> OH
[10:18] <sebas_> aamy: I have no idea, try joining #suse
[10:18] <cman321> Grub problems
[10:18] <cman321> Try super grub repair rescue disc http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[10:18] <Erich85> roryy:  I get a failed optcode message, that drive is not ready for command, and a status error.
[10:18] <techjim> hey guys.  I'm resizing a 107gb ntfs partition.  Any tips?  I think gparted gave me some news about how I freed too much space.
[10:19] <roryy> Erich85: could you perhaps put the message up on the pastebin ?
[10:19] <mcronline> doesnt suse use lilo?
[10:19] <roryy> !pastebin | Erich85
[10:19] <ubotu> Erich85: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <sebas_> hey, do I have to run chkdsk if I can't resize the NTFS partition to install ubuntu?
[10:19] <pmangg> sums
[10:19] <roryy> mcronline: maybe you should ask that on #suse ?
[10:19] <mcronline> i am answering not asking
[10:20] <roryy> mcronline: ah, sorry
[10:20] <artabrahao> hi, when I type sudo su appears must be setuid root
[10:20] <mcronline> np roryy it is OT really :-)
[10:20] <Erich85> roryy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24901/
[10:21] <idefixx> mcronline: in any case i dont think a recent suse uses lio anymore. the probably switched to grub, too.
[10:21] <techjim> hey guys.  I'm resizing a 107gb ntfs partition.  Any tips?  I think gparted gave me some news about how I freed too much space.
[10:21] <mcronline> oops i will shut up then..
 so I suspect it is motherboard no?
[10:21] <KimmoKe> why does vim-ruby package want to install X11 and all kinds of crazy stuff related to it?
[10:21] <KimmoKe> and how do i avoid that
[10:21] <LinuxP> God Evening! Anyone here with some experience on pcmcia wlan card issues?
[10:21] <roryy> Erich85: do you know if hda is your cd-rom ?
[10:22] <Erich85> roryy: How would I figure that out?  Though that sounds about right.
[10:22] <kane77> aschmitz, well the problem seems to be that the boinc_client doesnt run...
[10:23] <andrewww> How do i reset ubuntu to its clean install settings
[10:23] <bubblegum> http://paste.debian.net/30058--- can someone help me with that?
[10:23] <roryy> Erich85: what does 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' say ? (should have a -> hda if hda is the cdrom)
[10:23] <blue|palm> steel_lady, I have no clue :) It could be mb, or it could be the USB mouse interface controller or a host of other things
[10:23] <LinuxP> Well, I ask anyway :-P
[10:23] <Erich85> roryy: It says hda. :)
[10:24] <roryy> Erich85: i'd guess a bad cd in that case
[10:24] <blue|palm> steel_lady, does it happen with both the touchpad and the mouse?
[10:24] <idefixx> KimmoKe: you dont avoid it.
[10:24] <Erich85> roryy: My drive is empty.
[10:24] <Erich85> roryy: I get this message all the time no matter what's in there.
 yes it happens always
[10:25] <jesus> hello
[10:25] <bubblegum> hello
[10:25] <jesus> It is my first time in linux
[10:25] <idefixx> andrewww: you cant do that, most of the stuff in ect isnt backed up by default. if you just want to reset the desktop (gnome or kde) rename your home directory.
[10:25] <jesus> I am spanish
[10:25] <ubuB0nk3rs> hi people, quick bash question.. I'm trying to remove the coverart from my music collection so that rhythmbox re-fetches it.. is there a way of doing this at the command line rather than deleting each cover.jpg manually
[10:25] <LinuxP> I have a WLAN card which does not connect at boot. Must have press it in after startup. Any ideas someone?
[10:25] <erUSUL> !es | jesus
[10:25] <ubotu> jesus: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:25] <Messire> Join #taverne_diablo
[10:26] <jesus> ubotu gracias thank you very much
[10:26] <KimmoKe> idefixx: so i have to install X11 to get vim
[10:26] <bubblegum> http://paste.debian.net/30058-----HELP!!!
[10:26] <KimmoKe> great
[10:26] <erUSUL> jesus: ubotu is a BOT ;P
[10:26] <techjim> hey guys.  I'm resizing a 107gb ntfs partition.  Any tips?  I think gparted gave me some news about how I freed too much space.
[10:26] <Fractal> Hello
[10:26] <ahmed__> guys , does steam work with wine ??
[10:26] <andrewww> Hi, how do i reset ubuntu to its clean install settings?  I just updated to 7.04 and it still has all my stuff from before...I just want a fresh install, without having to touch my partitions.. Running a dual boot with XP
[10:27] <roryy> Erich85: hrm.  not sure.  there's a related bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/46288
[10:27] <roryy> Erich85: though no solution is given
[10:27] <jesus> sorru
[10:27] <jesus> how can I get ubuntu-es?
[10:27] <ahmed__> guys , does steam work with wine ??
[10:27] <ahmed__> guys , does steam work with wine ??
[10:27] <bubblegum> #ubuntu-es, i think, jesus
[10:27] <Fractal> hey, I have an issue using a Live CD, im not at home trying to use the LiveCD at anothers house but it just sticks on the first Ubuntu screen that comes up from Live CD
[10:27] <n2diy> jesus: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:28] <idefixx> KimmoKe: im guesing your running ubuntu-server, right? I usually use debian for servers... it has somewhat lighter dependencys but even there some stupid package usually pull x11 with it. it sux i know.
[10:28] <jesus> jeje
[10:28] <jesus> it is very easy
[10:28] <aschmitz> kane77: That's really strange. Worked for me... I'm not sure.
[10:28] <jesus> thanks
[10:28] <techjim> hey guys.  I'm resizing a 107gb ntfs partition.  Any tips?  I think gparted gave me some news about how I freed too much space.
[10:28] <PriceChild> techjim, defragment the ntfs partition
[10:28] <aschmitz> ahmed__: Yes, but it's not really fast at playing anything (at least, in my experience)
[10:28] <bubblegum> http://paste.debian.net/30058---help meeeee
[10:28] <Erich85> roryy: Oh man, this is annoying.  Is there a way to suppress error messages?
[10:29] <ahmed> what r u talkin about
[10:29] <elpargo> hi I have a ricoh SD card reader, lspci is showing it and there is a /dev for my card but I can't find a /dev for the partition and ubuntu is not reading my card. anyone knows what can be happening?
[10:29] <ahmed> ?
[10:29] <Fractal44> Anyone know why it stalls when starting the Ubuntu LiveCD ?
[10:29] <idefixx> KimmoKe: you might want to try apatitude. its has realy nice dependency handling an previewing - it also doesnt pull sugested packages with it if you configure it right. i dont think it'll help thou
[10:29] <roryy> Erich85: i don't know, sorry.  do you get these messages in gnome dialog boxes?
[10:29] <idefixx> KimmoKe: aptitude*
[10:29] <Erich85> Fractal44: Try starting it with the added "-nolapic".  That fixed it for me.
[10:29] <Erich85> roryy: Yessir.
[10:30] <sx66> !theme
[10:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:30] <bubblegum> http://paste.debian.net/30058-Help!!!!!
[10:30] <ubuntuish> hi, can't seem to copy files to ntfs partitions
[10:31] <roryy> Erich85: sorry, i can't find anything about suppressing error messages.  Doesn't mean it can't be done --- maybe someone else knows.
[10:31] <tibbe> is there any difference between running the vmware tools from vmware and those in the package manager?
[10:31] <Fractal44> Erich, im not sure where I'd type it, I get to the Ubuntu first menu Screen from LiveCD, but when I hit any option it says loading.. then waits forever, the CD rom light even goes off.
[10:31] <Erich85> Fractal44: You can press F6 over the boot option
[10:32] <Erich85> Fractal44: That'll let you type terminal commands
[10:32] <Fractal44> okay cool let me try this
[10:32] <ahmed__> guys pls help how to install iexplorer in wine??
[10:32] <jhasse> ahmed__: did you tried ies4linux?
[10:32] <jhasse> *try
[10:33] <ahmed> ok ill search about it first
[10:33] <n2diy> bubblegum: put a space after the paste bin so the proper URL will load from your link.
[10:33] <bubblegum> http://paste.debian.net/30058
[10:33] <Fractal44> erich let me make sure I got this right.. i'll hit f6 then type in -nolapic ?
[10:33] <bubblegum> there...i tink
[10:33] <bubblegum> *think
[10:34] <bjorn`> hi, question, what's the name of the gtk music player that behaves muchly like amarok? (not rhythmbox)
[10:34] <cman321> songbird
[10:34] <bubblegum> banshee, bjorn
[10:34] <erUSUL> !players
[10:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[10:34] <bjorn`> bubblegum: AHA! thank you
[10:34] <bubblegum> sorry, lol
[10:34] <bubblegum> no prob
[10:36] <Erich85> Fractal44: Yeah... you put in the live CD, and you get about six options.  Hit F6, then a terminal thing pops up on the bottom, and add on "-nolapic" and pretty enter.  Make sure the cursor is over the first option, "Boot Live CD" or whatever.
[10:36] <SDMX> Does anyone know why Fawn doesn't install ntfs rw on install if it attempt to detect ntfs patitions on intsallation?
[10:36] <bubblegum> n2diy: http://paste.debian.net/30058
[10:36] <SlimeyPete> SDMX: because that requir ntfs-3g, which is not very mature yet
[10:36] <Fractal44> Thankyou Erich I shall try it
[10:36] <SDMX> Hasn'
[10:36] <cman321> I thought it was licensing but that makes more sense.
[10:37] <n2diy> bubblegum: yes, I read it, it looks like something broke in dpkg, but I don't have a clue as to how to fix it.
[10:37] <SDMX> t ntfs-rw been in the kernel for like 3 revisions by now?
[10:37] <SDMX> It hasn't had that experimental tag in quite some time.
[10:37] <MacDrunk> hello
[10:37] <MacDrunk> any ideas why i cant install knetwork-fileshare
[10:37] <bubblegum> n2diy: hmmm. damn. i can't reinstall it either....fresh install?
[10:37] <cman321> I'm excited for the improved thumbdrive support gutsy is boasting.
[10:38] <n2diy> bubblegum: yes, that might work, back up your data first.
[10:38] <Enverex> IPTables seems to be running at startup, how do I stop that from happening?
[10:38] <bubblegum> okie dokie
[10:38] <bubblegum> thanks
[10:39] <bulmer> iptables is embedded in
[10:39] <kitche> Enverex: well by default iptables is not setup to block anything but you just have to turn the script off
[10:39] <ubuntuish> /ctcp ping ubuntuish
[10:39] <Enverex> kitche, It seems to be blocking anything from accessing the machine by default (it locks out Samba, SSH, etc) I have to keep opening FireStarter and telling it to stop IPTables before any of it is accessable by any other machine
[10:40] <econobeing> what exactly does "build-essential" install?
[10:40] <jrib> econobeing: apt-cache depends build-essential
[10:40] <econobeing> hmm, what's apt-cache?
[10:40] <blue|palm> steel_lady, its definitely hardware! your best bet is to contact dell...
[10:40] <kitche> Enverex: you must of set it up to block everything most likely but you just have to change the init script either the symlink or by chmod -x the main script
[10:40] <jrib> !apt > econobeing (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:41] <KI4IKL> what was the xorg config command? I know sudo dpkg-configure xorg- <then I dunno the rest>
[10:41] <jrib> !xconfig > KI4IKL (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:41] <KI4IKL> Thanks
[10:41] <AlexMax> Hi there.  I'm using xubuntu 7.04, and want to know how to switch the terminal emulator that shows up in the default menu to start rxvt-unicode instead of the default terminal
[10:41] <jrib> AlexMax: you mean the shell right?
[10:41] <SDMX> Can someone clear up how we go about making change requests? This whole gutsy blueprint yadda yadda stuff is kinda weird; I'm not sure where to start.
[10:42] <AlexMax> I've tried update-alternatives and switching the prefered application from within xfce, but they don't seem to have any effect on the terminal that's in the accessories menu
[10:42] <jrib> AlexMax: never mind, I'm dumb.  Just go to system -> preferences -> preferred apps
[10:42] <ubunt1> #squirrelmail
[10:42] <AlexMax> jrih: Already tried that, as stated :>
[10:42] <jrib> AlexMax: for the accessories menu, just create a new shortcut
[10:42] <AlexMax> How?
[10:42] <zeeeee> help, i'm trying to install package ocaml, but i get "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed"
[10:43] <AlexMax> I don't see an obvious way to edit menu options
[10:43] <jrib> AlexMax: oh xfce... hmm.  You can *probably* also use alacarte
[10:43] <zeeeee> this has happened before. last time the problem went away on reboot. but right now i just rebooted. why is my system sometimes not trusting the official repositories?
[10:44] <AlexMax> Also, why is it that when you install gvim you don't get a menu item to go with it?
[10:44] <jrib> AlexMax: you should, I think I've seen a bug filed already on bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <blue|palm> does anybody know if there exists a community of linux developers? Like a forum or IRC based community? (Linux C++ Devs)
[10:46] <AlexMax> Hrm, apparently alacarte says that there IS a menu option for gvim, it's just not enabled
[10:46] <idefixx> zeeeee: 'sudo apt-key list' there should be a key 437D05B5 (called Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key)
[10:46] <LVKeulen> uhmm..
[10:46] <LVKeulen> What was the help channel for Beryl?
[10:46] <LVKeulen> (For ubuntu)
[10:46] <jrib> LVKeulen: #ubuntu-effects
[10:46] <LVKeulen> Thanks
[10:46] <AlexMax> And it's in the 'accesories' menu while emacs gets to be in 'development' :>
[10:46] <jrib> blue|palm: ##c++
[10:47] <ivan> Hmm any idea why I would pick Ubuntu over other distros :) ?
[10:47] <jrib> ivan: try all of them and use the one *you* like best
[10:47] <ivan> :)
[10:47] <idefixx> ivan: because of this awesome support chan :)
[10:47] <ivan> heh
[10:48] <n2diy> ivan: how many other distros have  community support like you see here?
[10:48] <kitche> ivan: you can pick the best one for you use zealots usually don't work to well on chaning someone's mind :)
[10:48] <rjune> Is there a simple way to get Ubuntu to use LDAP auth from an ldap server
[10:48] <blue|palm> jrib, wouldnt that be more univeral? Like including windows? I am a windows dev, wanting to learn more about linux dev (API's etc.)...
[10:48] <kitche> n2diy: about 5 :)
[10:48] <AlexMax> ivan: It's debian based, and debian is seriously the best distro since sliced bread on its own
[10:48] <jrib> blue|palm: well that would be a good place to start I think.  They probably know of more focused forum communities
[10:48] <n2diy> kitche: with 1100 users logged in 24/7
[10:48] <blue|palm> jrib, thanks loads
[10:49] <Eric_Jardas> I created a HOWTO in the forum and it isn't there ? Is it waiting for approval or ?
[10:49] <ivan> AlexMax heh I like slack :P
[10:49] <kitche> n2diy: most are just idle so I don't count them :)
[10:49] <AlexMax> Ubuntu takes debian and includes a sane desktop that requires little configuration to be functional
[10:49] <ivan> but I get what you are saying
[10:49] <jrib> Eric_Jardas: #ubuntuforums
[10:49] <AlexMax> You won't like slack once you start using aptitude
[10:49] <n2diy> kitche: true, but you'll have idlers in the other groups too.
[10:49] <rjune> is aptitude what opens when you do applications->add/remove?
[10:50] <AlexMax> Nope
[10:50] <kitche> rjune: no
[10:50] <ndee> how can I copy the lines 930-till the end into a new file?
[10:50] <AlexMax> Aptitude is a command line program, it's the program that runs 'behind the scenes'
[10:50] <jrib> ndee: in an editor? as a command?
[10:50] <ndee> jrib: as a command
[10:50] <AlexMax> actually, i think that apt is a library and aptitude is just the best way of using it from a command line
[10:50] <jrib> ndee: use 'tail'
[10:50] <ndee> jrib: ok
[10:51] <jrib> ndee: or sed
[10:51] <zeeeee> idefixx, it seems to be there!
[10:51] <idefixx> AlexMax: no apt is a program it uses dpkg to install stuff.
[10:51] <n2diy> AlexMax: aptitude is a gui front end apt
[10:51] <AlexMax> plus you can play minesweeper while you wait for xubuntu-desktop-base to install
[10:51] <n2diy> for apt
[10:51] <aschmitz> Do I need to do anything to get Required-start to work (once I've changed it) in an init.d file? The LSB docs say something about install_initd, but it doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[10:52] <KI4IKL> I was told by someone in the ubuntu channel that gnome wouldn't run well on 128mb ram...it runs perfect for me :)
[10:52] <zeeeee> idefixx, do you know why i'm still getting these errors?
[10:52] <michal_> hi all
[10:52] <idefixx> zeeeee: well in that case there is either something wrong with the repository or you install from a thrid party source.
[10:52] <SDMX> Can someone clear up how we go about making change requests? This whole gutsy blueprint yadda yadda stuff is kinda weird; I'm not sure where to start.
[10:52] <AlexMax> Well yeah, but doesnt aptitude/synaptic/etc. share a common library that interacts with dpkg?
[10:52] <Don> KI4IKL: me too
[10:52] <kitche> KI4IKL: well it doesn't but how much swap do you have bet it's probably using some of it
[10:52] <AlexMax> or do they have their own individual methods?
[10:53] <idefixx> zeeeee: take a look at settings->repositories (if you are in synaptic) and look for third party reps.
[10:53] <michal_> whats up?
[10:53] <zeeeee> idefixx, i'm not installing from third-party sources (i only have one third-party source). ocaml is from the main repositories. i also get the same warning from the update notifier/installer.
[10:53] <roryy> AlexMax: apparently the package 'apt' provides such a library
[10:53] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know where i go to replace the existing login and logout sounds?? i want to change them to something else.. any ideas?
[10:53] <AlexMax> bingo
[10:54] <AS6> hello guys..
[10:54] <aamy> hi, i'm installing the latest release of ubuntu. While installing, I get a choice of what filesystem to use. Which one is most common? The choice I have are: Reiserfs (default), ext2, ext3, jfs, xfs, efi
[10:54] <cootpc> is there a certain channel for ubuntu noobs?
[10:54] <roryy> aamy: reiserfs is the default?  odd.  i thought it was ext3
[10:54] <n2diy> Tarkus: system>prefs>sound
[10:54] <jhasse> Tarkus: you can select an audio file
[10:54] <zeeeee> idefixx, i also have installed keys for my third-party repo
[10:54] <AS6> I`m new to ubuntu. My question is, can i have both ms winxp and ubuntu on the same drive? can i select which os to startup?
[10:55] <Tarkus> n2diy, jhasse: ahh, i see. thanks
[10:55] <jhasse> AS6: yes
[10:55] <kitche> AS^: yes
[10:55] <zeeeee> idefixx, so i don't believe i should be seeing this message
[10:55] <aamy> no, i am installing this over a previous installation of suse 10.0, that may have come with ReiserFs. So ext3 is the default for ubuntu?
[10:55] <AS6> jhasse: how?
[10:55] <roryy> aamy: i believe so
[10:55] <zeeeee> (the update notifier says i need to update e.g. app-install-data-commercial and libxvidcore4, but when i hit install it also warns me about untrusted sources)
[10:55] <jhasse> AS6: when you install the install will create a new partition
[10:55] <roryy> aamy: or rather, i'm pretty sure it is
[10:55] <Surge> xchat default channel?
[10:55] <aamy> okay, thanks a bunch!!
[10:55] <idefixx> zeeeee: what if you install it via 'sudo apt-get install ocaml' ?
[10:56] <jhasse> AS6: you windows partition will get smaller for having space for ubuntu
[10:56] <Surge> wow ubuntu + linux are cool
[10:56] <zeeeee> idefixx, that's what i did
[10:56] <AS6> jhasse: will it format the disk? coz i have some data on the drive.
[10:56] <Surge> beryl is amazing
[10:56] <zeeeee> idefixx, that's what printed the warning
[10:56] <zeeeee> that i pasted
[10:56] <roryy> cootpc: just ask your questions here
[10:56] <Surge> even this, xchat is alot nicer than mirc
[10:56] <AS6> jhass: It wont corrupt my windows?
[10:56] <Tarkus> n2diy, jhasse: is it possible to use a .flac file?? cause it wont let me..
[10:56] <jhasse> AS6: if you select right, it won't. But i would make a backup
[10:57] <n2diy> Tarkus: I don't know, never heard of that format?
[10:57] <AS6> jhasse: thank u very much, buddy
[10:57] <Surge> should I stay with the nvidia drivers from system > administration > restricted drivers?
[10:57] <Surge> or get the latest offa the nvidia site?
[10:57] <idefixx> zeeeee: hmm... maybe its the mirror you're downloading form.. did you try to change it?
[10:57] <Tarkus> n2diy, you never heard of .flac?
[10:57] <Surge> anyone?
[10:57] <roryy> !flac | tarkus
[10:57] <ubotu> tarkus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:57] <kitche> Surge: you would have to go though some steps to use the one from their site on ubuntu
[10:57] <Surge> oic
[10:57] <n2diy> Tarkus: Nope, but I don't play with audio stuff very often.
[10:58] <Surge> I'll do the automatic one then
[10:58] <roryy> Surge: i'd stick with the default ones unless you need something specific
[10:58] <Surge> the cube isn't very smooth rotation wise
[10:58] <Surge> no v-tearing, but jerky kinda
[10:58] <kitche> Surge: well your probably using the nv driver
[10:58] <DrFEAR> hi to all
[10:58] <DrFEAR> again
[10:58] <XiCillin> im trying to chnage my menu icon but gconf-editor doesn't have any dropdown menu to change to 'custom-icon'
[10:58] <DrFEAR> XD
[10:58] <XiCillin> anybody dne this?
[10:58] <zeeeee> idefixx, how do i do that? here's my sources.list http://rafb.net/p/l9M1Mi17.html the only third-party (non-ubuntu.com) repo is the last one
[10:58] <aamy> i'm installing ubuntu on my desktop right now, it didn't ask me to configure GRUB (to dual boot with windows) yet....i'm kinda worried, don't want to loose the ability to boot into windows just yet. is GRUB autoconfigured?
[10:58] <jhasse> kitche: Does compiz work with nv?
[10:58] <Surge> I used the one that downloaded automatically through restricted drivers
[10:58] <silvius> hi all
[10:59] <XiCillin> aamy, don't worry
[10:59] <Surge> what else is there to beryl?
[10:59] <silvius> whats the command to login as root in ubuntu terminal ?
[10:59] <zeeeee> idefixx, as you can see  i'm not using any mirrors
[10:59] <XiCillin> GRUB will detect your windows partition
[10:59] <kitche> jhasse: though aiglx it does I believe
[10:59] <Surge> I've seen videos where the application windows pop out of the cube
[10:59] <DrFEAR> I need to use sudo again, I activated a su password, how do I get back?
[10:59] <bruenig> silvius, there is no root account
[10:59] <aamy> XiCillin: that's a relief....thank you!
[10:59] <Deinumite> Surge: you have to enable a certain 3d effect in beryl, ive got it running
[10:59] <jhasse> kitche: oh cool. I have to try out.
[11:00] <Surge> must.... find
[11:00] <kitche> DrFEAR: just use sudo it should still work even if root does have a password and unlocked
[11:00] <Taromsn> So lowering the number of allowed connections did not keep it from happening
[11:00] <Taromsn> My internet still cuts out after 10-15 minutes of torrenting
[11:00] <idefixx> zeeeee: no mirros are ok. but your using feisty-proposed and feisty-backports try to comment them and run 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:01] <zeeeee> idefixx, ok let me try. (are those supposed to be untrusted?)
[11:01] <DrFEAR> kitche: Right...I've never tried that, sorry!
[11:01] <DrFEAR> kitche: Thanks!
[11:01] <zeeeee> (does this mean i cannot use them trustingly for some reason?)
[11:01] <econobeing> Taromsn: what's your torrent program?
[11:01] <idefixx> zeeeee: im not sure but they might use a differnt key... if its not that im out of options.
[11:01] <silvius> the problem is i need to change my monitor resolution manual and it won't work if i'm not loggee in as root
[11:01] <Surge> holy crap
[11:02] <Surge> super+scroll is BLOWING MY MIND
[11:02] <kitche> !caps | Surge
[11:02] <ubotu> Surge: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:02] <Surge> -_-
[11:02] <erUSUL> silvius: it will work with sudo as allways
[11:02] <kitche> !offtopic | Surge your a bit offtopic
[11:02] <ubotu> Surge your a bit offtopic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:02] <Flannel> silvius: You don't.  Edit the file with sudo, (gksu gedit /file or sudo nano /file)
[11:02] <cootpc> brand new to ubuntu, when installing, my screen rez is so low i can't see everything...tried to increase rez in sys preferences...but 640x480 was biggest...any ideas
[11:02] <silvius> ok thanks
[11:02] <PriceChild> !fixres > cootpc (see pm from ubotu)
[11:02] <zeeeee> idefixx, that worked
[11:03] <zeeeee> idefixx, the warnings went away
[11:03] <zeeeee> so...does that mean i need to find out what those repos' keys are?
[11:03] <idefixx> zeeeee: well in that case google for the key to feisty-proposed and backport i dont know where to get them.. but im sure they are around :)
[11:03] <kitche> zeeeee: it's probbaly due to propose since that repo is mostly used for fixes that are not ready to go into the three main repos
[11:03] <cootpc> thanks pricechild
[11:04] <beta-guy> got KDE install an working fine under PS3
[11:04] <beta-guy> that was for kermans
[11:04] <zeeeee> idefixx, hmm...it seems that it doesn't even matter that i commented them out. i uncommented, ran update, and the warnings are still gone.
[11:04] <zeeeee> seems all i needed was an update.
[11:04] <beta-guy> khermans
[11:04] <zeeeee> no idea why.
[11:04] <Pazy> Can someone help me, i downloaded KDE using the Synaptic thing and now when i boot it calls Ubuntu 'Kubuntu', is there anyway to get it back to the original sign in screen without removing KDE?
[11:04] <idefixx> zeeeee: you'll have to add it to your apt keyring (apt-key)... but fyi you can install untrested packages since its just a warining. it just means they are not singned so they might contain unsave code.
[11:05] <cod> .
[11:05] <madman91> OMG guys
[11:05] <kitche> Pazy: use gdm instead of kdm sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[11:05] <TiagooO> \0/
[11:05] <madman91> kde uses my mouse properly... but gnome sees my scrolly as left and right
[11:05] <fjr> I need some help wth some mac->ubuntu file transfers
[11:05] <idefixx> zeeeee: odd.. im not sure how apt caches the packges.gpg but afaik know it should get them on every update... well if it worked :)
[11:05] <Pazy> kitche: can you say that again using simple words, im fairly new to this
[11:06] <aschmitz> How can I get an init.d script to wait until another one is finished to run?
[11:06] <daylighter> has anyone else had problems with Nvidia drivers after the recent updates?
[11:06] <tarzeau> daylighter: no
[11:06] <kitche> Pazy: type this in a terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm should make your login go back to gdm instead of kdm
[11:06] <idefixx> zeeeee: on second thought its has to get it on updates.. well if it happens again you know what to do.
[11:06] <PriceChild> daylighter, did you install the drivers manually? ie not using ubuntu packages
[11:06] <Pazy> ah thanks so much
[11:06] <zeeeee> idefixx, yep :)
[11:06] <zeeeee> thanks for your help
[11:06] <daylighter> I had to download the drivers, recompile my kernel interface, and everything else.. thank god for lynx
[11:07] <kitche> daylighter: if you manually install the driver of course you will have a broken nvidia driver on a kernel update since the interface is different
[11:07] <daylighter> oh, that's weird kitche, because the last time I had a kernel update it was fine... hmm
[11:08] <kitche> daylighter: you were probably using the ubuntu packaged driver before most likely
[11:08] <daylighter> yeah, probably
[11:09] <AlexMax> I just installed Bitlbee, but I don't think it's coming up.  Anyone else have any experience with that package?
[11:09] <kitche> AlexMax: bitlbee doesn't have a menu for it
[11:09] <daylighter> I guess I'm moving out of the super-newb range since when I saw what x was telling me, I logged in, opened lynx, downloaded the driver, sudo sh'd it and let it install, then started gdm again :)
[11:09] <AlexMax> I know, but even after I install it and edit the conf file, I can't connect to it
[11:10] <drsys> hello people
[11:10] <idefixx> daylighter: nice :) log reading 4tw !
[11:10] <kitche> AlexMax: how are you connecting to it?
[11:10] <daylighter> indeed idefixx
[11:10] <drsys> how can i install & setup selinux on ubuntu 7.04 server ?
[11:10] <AlexMax> 	[ERROR] 	Connection to irc://127.0.0.1/ (irc://127.0.0.1/) refused. Reconnecting in 15 seconds.
[11:11] <n2diy> AlexMax: 127.0.0.1 is your local loopback connection.
[11:11] <silvius> hey guys its working i'm now in the xserver configuration menu, i need to tell him what vga card i have, its a standard intel card on a aspire 5630 laptop can i put it on vga ?
[11:11] <AlexMax> I am aware.
[11:11] <drsys> how can i install & setup selinux on ubuntu 7.04 server ?can anybody help?
[11:12] <kitche> n2diy: he installed bitlbee locally
[11:12] <n2diy> kitche: Ok, never heard of bitlbee?
[11:13] <kitche> n2diy: it's an irc based gateway to the im servers
[11:13] <robdeman> folks, can anybody give me an example for commandline when I want to use all files from /mnt/backup/MP3/* to /home/rob/MP3/ ?
[11:14] <GrueTamer> robdeman: like, copy them?
[11:14] <robdeman> no move
[11:14] <drsys> how can i install & setup selinux on ubuntu 7.04 server ?can anybody help?
[11:14] <rgl> hi
[11:14] <GrueTamer> um...it may be...
[11:14] <zabin> robdeman use mv
[11:14] <Flannel> !repeat | drsys
[11:14] <ubotu> drsys: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:14] <robdeman> I know
[11:14] <n2diy> kitche: Ok, that would explain why I never heard of it. :)
[11:14] <zabin> mv /files /locaiont
[11:14] <robdeman> but it says stuff like cannot overwrite target directory and stuff
[11:14] <GrueTamer> mv /mnt/backup/MP3/* /home/rob/MP3
[11:14] <rgl> is there a way to make ubuntu not touch /etc/resolv.conf while running the dhcp client?
[11:14] <n2diy> drsys: I thought selinux was a Red Hat product?
[11:14] <zabin> right
[11:15] <idefixx> robdeman: 'mv -R /mnt/backup/MP3/* /home/rob/MP3/'
[11:15] <drsys> not only is it?
[11:15] <Flannel> No, not only.
[11:15] <kitche> AlexMax: I never locally installed bitlbee before I only used the remote server that they run myself
[11:15] <drsys> i think it runs on linux generally isnt it?
[11:15] <n2diy> drsys: I don't know for sure?
[11:16] <n2diy> ! selinux
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <AlexMax> kitche: Why bother when bitlbee (should be) cake to set up?
[11:16] <AlexMax> Works fine in debian
[11:16] <AlexMax> ! bitlbee
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitlbee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <PriceChild> !info bitlbee
[11:17] <kitche> AlexMax: because it's just extra weight on my system, it's just as easy to use their servers :)
[11:17] <sx66> huh?
[11:17] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 308 kB, installed size 780 kB
[11:17] <Flannel> drsys: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux might be enough to get you started
[11:17] <AlexMax> kitche: Go to a terminal and type in "man mt"
[11:18] <KI4IKL> Will the .deb package for avg work for ubuntu?
[11:18] <kitche> AlexMax: umm ok? magentic tape maniplating program?
[11:18] <AlexMax> Betcha didn't know that was on your computer, did you.
[11:18] <ramatieg> Can anyone recommend an incremental (versioned) backup system. Any comments on duplicity versus rdiff-backup?
[11:18] <GrueTamer> KI4IKL: it should
[11:19] <kitche> AlexMax: I know almost everything on my computer sicne I built it from scratch
[11:19] <XiCillin> none of these change panel menu icon howto's work
[11:19] <XiCillin> and they're all the same
[11:19] <XiCillin> :(
[11:19] <KI4IKL> I also have an issue with my firefox...the cursor, when inside the page part of firefox, blinks over and over and over.
[11:19] <Flannel> !backup | ramatieg
[11:19] <ubotu> ramatieg: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:19] <AlexMax> My point is that in the age of gigahertzs of CPU processing, fat broadband pipes, gigabytes of RAM and video cards that can pump out billions of triangles per second, a small inted program 'taking up resources on your computer' is the least of your worries
[11:20] <AlexMax> there's *always* going to be cruft in a linux distro
[11:20] <Prognatus> Hello, anybody know where the nightly builds can be obtained?
[11:20] <kitche> AlexMax: not mine as I said I built it myself
[11:20] <Seveas> Prognatus, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <AlexMax> And yet you still have 'useless' programs laying around your system that you never knew existed
[11:21] <Prognatus> Thank you, Seveas! :D
[11:21] <kitche> AlexMax: umm you sure it's useless to me ?
[11:21] <AlexMax> Should be, I ran Gentoo once and it actually didn't have mt, and it worked fine.
[11:21] <AlexMax> Unless you're running a mainfraime somewhere that I dont know about
[11:22] <cootpc> i went to the FixYourResHowto and it didn't help anything, says all the command are unknown
[11:22] <Seveas> heh, mt :)
[11:22] <cootpc> i can't see all the buttons during installation
[11:22] <cr0_> i installed apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5 but it didn't enabled the module. i had to do a2enmod php5 to get links in mods-enabled, but whenever i try to access a php page the browser just tries to download the file instead of php handling it
[11:22] <cr0_> halp
[11:22] <Seveas> cr0_, did you rstart apache after a2enmod?
[11:23] <cr0_> yup
[11:23] <cr0_> i uninstalled apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5 and php5 and reinstalled a bunch of times with no luck
[11:23] <lousygarua> what are you trying to do again?
[11:23] <cr0_> i manually added an addhandler line for php-scripts but that didnt help
[11:23] <Seveas> cr0_, is another http daemon installed perhaps?
[11:23] <cr0_> nope
[11:24] <cr0_> im trying to make apache2 server php correctly
[11:24] <cr0_> serve
[11:24] <XiCillin> can  someone help me change the panel icon if they've done it already
[11:24] <Seveas> cr0_, sudo netstat -tlnp | grep :80
[11:24] <cr0_> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     4593/apache2
[11:24] <OhMyAudi> !mov
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <OhMyAudi> Anyone help me playing mov files?
[11:25] <nemik> hello, when i change the hostname of a machine, do i have to reboot? it is not taking effect in shells
[11:25] <Seveas> !avi
[11:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:25] <Seveas> !-avi
[11:25] <ubotu> avi is <alias> codecs - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 00:43:11
[11:25] <Seveas> !mov is <alias> codecs
[11:25] <Tarkus> hey, is it possible to make a Guest account that doesnt require any password?
[11:25] <OhMyAudi> thanks
[11:25] <Pieter_> does anyone know how to download torrents with democracy player?
[11:25] <Chago> When I want to uninstall a package, have I to be located into the directory where the package is?
[11:25] <Seveas> Tarkus, yes
[11:26] <cr0_> any idea seveas
[11:26] <Tarkus> Seveas, how do i do that? cause when i leave the password feild blank. it says too short, needs to be at least 6 caracters.
[11:26] <nemik> Chago, no
[11:26] <lousygarua> Chago - just use synaptic or the add/remove application
[11:26] <Chago> how is that?
[11:26] <Seveas> cr0_, remove apache2 and all php stuff, rm -rf /etc/apache and install it again and enable it
[11:27] <cr0_> oof
[11:27] <cr0_> ok
[11:27] <nemik> Chago, you can remove with apt-get remove anywhere you are, don't have to be in the direcotry where it is all installed
[11:27] <Seveas> Tarkus, add the user with a password and in the terminal, do sudo passwd -d username_of_new_user
[11:27] <lousygarua> Chago - "sudo apt-get remove <package>"
[11:27] <nemik> when i change the hostname of a machine, do i have to reboot? it is not taking effect in shells
[11:27] <Seveas> nemik, how did you change the hostname?
[11:27] <cootpc> is there a specific channel for beginers?
[11:27] <zabin> nemik: where is the host name file located that you are changing?
[11:28] <lousygarua> cr0_ did u try to uninstall apache with purging all configuration files using apt-get --purge?
[11:28] <Tarkus> Seveas, k, thanks.
[11:28] <lousygarua> cr0_ and then installing again?
[11:28] <Chago> I'd tried to do that...but...appear a message indicating me...E: Couldn't find package LimeWireLinux.deb
[11:28] <nemik> Seveas, in /etc/hosts. /etc/hostname and using 'hostname <new_name>' but still shells have root@<old-name>
[11:28] <cyberredx> anyone running ratpoison in here? I need some help
[11:28] <lousygarua> Chago - try to search it in synaptic under system->administration->synaptic
[11:28] <zeeeee> i just installed ocaml on 2 very different ubuntu systems (6.06 on x64 and 7.04 on x86) but it doesn't work, and #ocaml says it's an ubuntu bug: http://rafb.net/p/WyIAT961.html
[11:28] <zabin> nemik: i think you would have to ureboot
[11:28] <CyberCod> Is there another way to edit the menus in the Menu Bar besides using the "Edit Menu" option?
[11:28] <zeeeee> anybody know how to fix this?
[11:28] <lousygarua> Chago - inside there u can run a search for "lime" or smt
[11:29] <nemik> zabin, srsly? this is a server. damnit. oh well thanks. logging in/out wouldn't work?
[11:29] <Seveas> nemik, if by shell you mean gnom-terminal: you need to log out and log back in to see the new hostname
[11:29] <nemik> Seveas, thanks
[11:29] <Seveas> nemik, and for remote shells the same goes: logout+login
[11:29] <robert__> I am new to Ubuntu - I hope some one can help me - I have just installed Feisty on an IBM A22p laptop (the same model Mark Shuttleworth too into space with him) but I the 1600x1200 native resolution is not an option. The ATI mobility M3
[11:29] <nemik> and not gnome-terminal, i'm SSHing in
[11:29] <zabin> nemik: that probably wont work. it has to reload that part completely... sorry
[11:29] <heckyes669> can someone send me the file: vim.1.gz? its saved in /usr/bin/vim.1.gz
[11:30] <zabin> nemik: sudo reboot if you can should only take a sec to come back up
[11:30] <Seveas> heckyes669, vim.1.gz is the vim manpage, stored in /usr/share/man/man1
[11:30] <PriceChild> !fixres > robert__ (see pm from ubotu)
[11:30] <nemik> yea i suppose. i'll do it later in downtime then. thanks guys
[11:30] <zabin> np
[11:30] <heckyes669> Seveas: thanks
[11:30] <Tarkus> Seveas, hmm, i tried that and now i wont let me login at all with that user.
[11:31] <zabin> !ask < zeeee
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask < zeeee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <Banekartr> I am making the linux switch today.. but have one very important question.  So, I have a duel boot system with Ubuntu and WIndows.  The duel boot is set up so that there are two hard drives.  The primary is the windows, which has the boot sector - and the other is my Ubuntu that (as of this point) has no boot sector.  I have lots of settings in the home folders at this point I dont want to lose, and would love to insert a boot sec
[11:31] <Banekartr> tor directly on my Ubuntu drive.  Is there a way to do this or do I have to install from scratch??
[11:31] <Seveas> Tarkus, where are you trying to log in?
[11:31] <zabin> !ask > zeee
[11:31] <AForgue> I'm having an issue with sound. I have a SB Audigy card as well as a motherboard with built in sound. Ubuntu has recognized both, but different things use different cards randomly. Is there a way to completely disable the built in motherboard sound such that Ubuntu doesn't even recognize it?
[11:31] <Seveas> Tarkus, ssh or gdm?
[11:31] <cr0_> seveas: now my /etc/apache2 is empty
[11:31] <cyberredx> anyone know how to change xterm bg color in ratpoison?
[11:31] <robert__> PriceChild : I run !fixres from the terminal?
[11:31] <Tarkus> Seveas, when i logout. i select Guest and then for password i leave it blank. doesnt work.. i try it with the password, doesnt work..
[11:31] <Chago> lousygarua: tks...I got it :)
[11:31] <Tarkus> Seveas, GDM
[11:31] <cr0_> after removing and installing apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5
[11:31] <wastedfluid> Hi guys.  Anyone knowledgeable with swaps?  I have a problem.  I removed/re-sized my partition.. and I can't just get Ubuntu to enable it.  When I fresh boot, "free" shows 0 0 0 for my swap.  But If I have /sbin/mkswap /dev/hda5, and then sudo swapon -v /dev/hda5, it activates.. but it NEVER activates on boot.  It's even in my fstab; any ideas?
[11:32] <cr0_> i removed the dir in between the deinstall and the install
[11:32] <n2diy> AForgue: check your bios options.
[11:32] <AForgue> ahh ok
[11:32] <lousygarua> Chago-u'r welcome
[11:33] <Genericnickname> Hello
[11:33] <oslo> quel protocole de messagerie conseill vous pour faire du SSL avec du PGP de bout en bout ? jabber ?
[11:33] <Banekartr> any suggestions on this?
[11:33] <lousygarua> cr0_: maybe there are hidden config files somewhere
[11:33] <oslo> oups sorry #ubuntu-fr i know
[11:34] <lousygarua> cr0_: apt-get --purge should remove them too
[11:34] <Tarkus> Seveas, any ideas?
[11:34] <cr0_> oh i had libapache2-mod-perl2 intsalled maybe thats the issue
[11:34] <Seveas> Tarkus, check /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to see whether empty passwords are allowed
[11:34] <oslo> do u know any IM protocol for SSL with PGP keys ?
[11:34] <idefixx> wastedfluid: you'll have to edit your fstab. there's still the old uuid in it. 'sudo vol_id /dev//hda4' and paste that where your old swap is mounted in fstab.
[11:34] <lousygarua> cr0_: i'm not sure if it works after u removed the package already
[11:34] <Seveas> Tarkus, same goes for /etc/pam.d/common-password
[11:34] <magnetron> oslo: there is a better one, OTR
[11:34] <Genericnickname> I have a question: I want all my mp3 files to open with VLC instead of the default program. How do I set this?
[11:35] <idefixx> wastedfluid: /dev/hda5.. sry
[11:35] <cr0_> no its broke totally now
[11:35] <bruenig> Genericnickname, right click on an mp3, go to properties and open with
[11:35] <Wagner-> magnetron,  OTR?
[11:35] <cr0_> i removed all apache2 packages and /etc/apache2
[11:35] <wastedfluid> idaho45;  hold on!
[11:35] <cr0_> how do i make it work now
[11:35] <Flannel> cr0_: did you remove them with --purge?
[11:35] <Juchipilo> is it possible to downgrade from feisty to edgy?
[11:35] <lousygarua> cr0_: what do u see on synaptic for apache2?
[11:35] <n2diy> Genericnickname: check system>prefs>preferred apps.
[11:35] <cr0_> no i did not
[11:35] <cr0_> im just using apt-get not synaptic
[11:36] <Flannel> cr0_: You should.  That's what removes all the config files.
[11:36] <erUSUL> Genericnickname: System>Preferences>Preferred apps ?? or right click on an mp3 file go to properties>open with
[11:36] <wastedfluid> idefixx; vol_id..?  vol_id doesn't work
[11:36] <cr0_> apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-perl2?
[11:36] <cyberredx> would anyone happne to know how to change font color of xterm?
[11:36] <oslo> magnetron> any link about otr ?
[11:36] <idefixx> wastedfluid: what means it doesnt work?
[11:36] <ubuntuish> hi, can't seem to write to ntfs partitions
[11:36] <lousygarua> cr0_: oh  u r in a server enviorment?
[11:36] <daylighter> wow, this is great... suddenly I cant access my FAT32 or NTFS partitions :)
[11:36] <cr0_> ya
[11:36] <magnetron> Wagner-: Off The Record messaging. there is a plugin for GAIM that supports it, oslo. it works with MSN, ICQ etc
[11:36] <lousygarua> cr0_: u can try aptitude then
[11:36] <wastedfluid> idefixx; /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[11:37] <wastedfluid> er, whoops, wrong thing
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> !ntfs-3g
[11:37] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:37] <cr0_> ok i purged libapache2-mod-perl2
[11:37] <wastedfluid> idefixx; sudo: vol_id: command not found
[11:37] <cr0_> deleted /etc/apache2
[11:37] <cr0_> installed libapache2-mod-perl2
[11:37] <Fawaz> which package i can find zlib?
[11:37] <cman322> damn broadcom
[11:37] <cr0_> and it created /etc/apache2
[11:37] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: i have it installed
[11:37] <idefixx> wastedfluid: try 'blkid'
[11:37] <cr0_> Unpacking libapache2-mod-perl2 (from .../libapache2-mod-perl2_2.0.2-2.3_i386.deb) ...
[11:37] <cr0_> Setting up libapache2-mod-perl2 (2.0.2-2.3) ...
[11:37] <cr0_> cd: 48: can't cd to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[11:37] <cr0_> root@happiland:/etc# ls apache2
[11:37] <cr0_> mods-available
[11:37] <cr0_> root@happiland:/etc#
[11:37] <Flannel> !enter | cr0_
[11:37] <Flannel> holy cow.  cr0_ don't paste either.
[11:37] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: i mean i installed it, even checked the forums its properly configured
[11:37] <wastedfluid> idefixx; /dev/hda5: UUID="66d6be2a-2ef5-4fbe-b60a-dff72ae6e6e4" TYPE="swap"
[11:37] <lousygarua> cr0_: i think u should
[11:37] <heckyes669> Seveas: it says i don't have permission to move the file. how can i do it in terminal?
[11:38] <lousygarua> cr0_: purge all apache related stuff first
[11:38] <ubotu> cr0_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:38] <cr0_> ok
[11:38] <wastedfluid> idefixx; but my fswap doesn't have UUID's.. I pasted you my swap line in fstab
[11:38] <Seveas> heckyes669, you shouldn't move the file
[11:38] <magnetron> oslo. Wagner-: install gaim-otr with synaptic, then enable it in GAIM. find a friend to do the same. start chatting!
[11:38] <cman322> Here's one.  Anyone know why my broadcom card just randomly gets disconnected and stuck there until I reboot and wait. and wait some more.
[11:38] <lousygarua> cr0_: enter aptitude and click hit "/apache2" or smt like that
[11:38] <PriceChild> robert_, no, ubotu sent you a pm
[11:38] <heckyes669> Seveas: what should I do then?
[11:38] <Seveas> heckyes669, what do you want to accomplish?
[11:38] <lousygarua> cr0_: do this repeatidly and purge them all with the _ key on a package
[11:38] <idefixx> wastedfluid: hang on
[11:38] <daylighter> so now I can read one of them
[11:38] <lousygarua> cr0_: all that's related to apache
[11:39] <Flannel> cr0_: libapache2-mod-perl2 should also install apache2, So you need to purge apache2-common (or apache2.2-common, if youre on feisty) as well, so it'll reinstall all the normal stuff.
[11:39] <Fawaz> which package name to install zlib?
[11:39] <heckyes669> Seveas: dpkg is broken, it says that it's target is missing. vim is the target
[11:39] <Seveas> heckyes669, pastebin the complete dpkg output please
[11:39] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: did you read?
[11:39] <robert_> PriceChild: next time try not to trip my nick-highlighting, kthxbye
[11:39] <lousygarua> Fawaz: zlib1g maybe?
[11:39] <robert_> :P
[11:40] <oslo> There are third-party plugins for the Kopete, yes i'm on kde
[11:40] <PriceChild> robert_, I'm confused
[11:40] <cr0_> ah ha
[11:40] <PriceChild> robert_, I told ubotu to send you help, and told you to see ubotu's message?
[11:40] <cr0_> i think you are right about purging apache2-common
[11:40] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: so what exactly is the problem? is it giving an error message?
[11:40] <rarcke> How does one change the date on photos in f-spot? It's making me crazy!
[11:40] <lousygarua> cr0_: all of the apache packages
[11:40] <zero_> how can i change the width and height of a bunch of pictures at once, would be like making thumbnails, there is any app to do it
[11:40] <robert_> PriceChild: I'm not the one asking for help, you ninny.
[11:40] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: just won't let write to the hdd's says i don't have access
[11:40] <lousygarua> cr0_: so it removes anythingi t knows about
[11:40] <cr0_> too bad i can't purge
[11:40] <idefixx> wastedfluid: it should be mounted to swap... so '/dev/hda5       swap            swap    sw              0       0'
[11:40] <lousygarua> cr0_: apache2-common also
[11:40] <Flannel> cr0_: You'll also need to purge any other apache packages, since you manually deleted /etc/apache2
[11:40] <Fawaz> lousygarua: nope not zliblg,, anyone else would like to have a guess?
[11:40] <PriceChild> robert_, whoops missed an underscore
[11:41] <cr0_> it says /etc/apache2 doesn't exist
[11:41] <KI4IKL> How can I set to auto mount a shared file in samba?
[11:41] <Flannel> cr0_: that includes php and other things.
[11:41] <cr0_> and refuses to copmlete the purge
[11:41] <Seveas> zero_, look at convert (part of imagemagick)
[11:41] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: do you have access to the directory into which it is mounted? (usually /media/sda1 or similar)
[11:41] <heckyes669> Seveas: I'm not doing this in terminal, does that matter?
[11:41] <Flannel> cr0_: that's because you shouldn't have manually deleted /etc/apache2
[11:41] <wastedfluid> idefixx; so change "none" to "swap" ?
[11:41] <robert_> gee, ya think?
[11:41] <zero_> Seveas: imagemagic it's an app?
[11:41] <Seveas> cr0_, that's why I said: remove packages first, then get rid of /etc/apache2
[11:41] <cr0_> well i did that because thats what seveas told me to do
[11:41] <idefixx> wastedfluid: yup.
[11:41] <cr0_> earlier
[11:41] <Seveas> zero_, yes
[11:41] <wastedfluid> lettme try.
[11:41] <robert_> and robert__ isn't here anymore
[11:41] <Seveas> heckyes669, no
[11:41] <omegacenti> Whats a near or exact match to ventrilo in ubuntu?
[11:41] <Genericnickname> Something was mentioned earlier in order to get Ubuntu to write NTFS partitions...is it safe?
[11:41] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: i have read access already, just won't let me write
[11:42] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: and I presume that you have unmounted & remounted the drive (or just rebooted)?
[11:42] <Seveas> Genericnickname, for values of saf
[11:42] <Seveas> e
[11:42] <heckyes669> Seveas: ok, hold on
[11:42] <Flannel> PriceChild: you didn't miss an underscore, robert__ just includes robert_.
[11:42] <cman322> lol
[11:42] <cman322> teamspeak
[11:42] <wastedfluid> idefixx;  I'll definitely give this a try.  Not worth a reboot, but thnaks so much for your help!
[11:42] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: yes i've rebooted
[11:42] <idefixx> wastedfluid: also im not really sure if there is an option set sw.. if it still doesn't work chnage sw to 'default'
[11:42] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: I know. Do you have write access to the directory into which it is mounted?
[11:42] <wastedfluid> okay, 'sw' to default, I'll remember that.
[11:42] <PriceChild> Flannel, ubotu sent message to wrong person though ;) Who has now gone.
[11:42] <Genericnickname> If I use it, am I going to destroy my windows partition? :P
[11:42] <ubuntuish> media you mean?
[11:42] <zero_> Seveas: could i find it in the synaptic package manager?
[11:42] <Seveas> zero_, yes
[11:42] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: yeah... well, /media/sda1 or whatever
[11:42] <drees> helo romies, greetings from Holland
[11:42] <johnnytang24> zero_ : for x in *jpg; do convert -resize 64x64 $x ${x:.jpg}_1.jpg; done
[11:42] <wastedfluid> idefixx; thanks once again!
[11:42] <johnnytang24> or something
[11:42] <robert_> Flannel: that may be true, but he shouldn't be talking DIRECTLY to me, if he wishes not to illicit a response from me :P
[11:43] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: thing is i started thunar using sudo
[11:43] <cr0_> i can't remove apache2.2-common because it says invoke-rc.d action stop failed, how can i fix this
[11:43] <omegacenti> Whats a near or exact match to ventrilo in ubuntu?
[11:43] <ubuntuish> still says i have only read access
[11:43] <heckyes669> seveas: http://paste.debian.net/30069
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: ah. How odd. Is the filesystem error-free? Just a thought.
[11:43] <Seveas> heckyes669, the *COMPLETE* output
[11:43] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: perfect no issues what so ever
[11:44] <lousygarua> cr0_: hmmmm mayeb seartch on google on this error?
[11:44] <heckyes669> Seveas: that's all the error is when I double-click the file "dpkg" do see what was wrong
[11:44] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: hmm, not sure then, sorry
[11:44] <ubuntuish> kthnx
[11:44] <rarcke> Nm, found it eventually.
[11:44] <Genericnickname> Just a cosmetic thing, but: How do I make it so the clock is 24 hour?
[11:44] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: another thing would you know why i can't access files from a windows pc?
[11:44] <Seveas> heckyes669, err... ok, what are you doing?
[11:45] <Seveas> heckyes669, you have a file called dpkg somewhere?
[11:45] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: i have samba and i've assigned folders via share as well
[11:45] <Seveas> heckyes669, where?
[11:45] <rarcke> I can't get the "collection" feature to work in Amarok. I'm running 1.4.5 on Feisty.
[11:45] <omegacenti> Whats a near or exact match to ventrilo in ubuntu?
[11:45] <heckyes669> Seveas: yeah, i do
[11:45] <poningru> aamy: you there?
[11:45] <kitche> Genericnickname: you should be able to right click the clock and go to properties and it should let you do that there
[11:45] <Flannel> cr0_: You're going to have to modify /etc/init.d/apache2 to return success.  Right now it's trying to do stuff with apache, that doesn't work, returning errors.
[11:45] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: it shows me the pc when i search for it via ip but it doesn't let me login irrespective of the username and password i use
[11:45] <poningru> omegacenti: ekiga
[11:45] <zero_> johnnytang24: ok let me try
[11:45] <poningru> !ekiga | omegacenti
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ekiga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <Genericnickname> Wow...Hmm...what other questions....Should I run a firewall in Ubuntu? Anti-virus? Anti-spyware? If so, what programs are good?
[11:46] <heckyes669> Seveas: /usr/bin
[11:46] <cr0_> flannel: how?
[11:46] <Seveas> heckyes669, you can't run that by double clicking. It's a terminal-only application
[11:46] <magnetron> Genericnickname: you don't have to do that
[11:46] <arcad3z> !postfix
[11:46] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:46] <SlimeyPete> ubuntuish: you have to add users to samba. There's a graphical way of doing it I think but I use smbpasswd from the command line.
[11:46] <cr0_> oh i did it
[11:46] <cr0_> i copied /bin/true to /etc/apache2
[11:46] <lousygarua> cr0_: sounds funny
[11:46] <ubuntuish> SlimeyPete: kthnx i'll check it out
[11:46] <cr0_> yeah
[11:46] <cr0_> hilarious
[11:47] <lousygarua> cr0_: so now it purges stuff?
[11:47] <heckyes669> Seveas: I figured that, but the icon had an X on it, so I clicked to find what was wrong
[11:47] <cr0_> yeah
[11:47] <magnetron> Genericnickname: there is so few vulnerabilities in Ubuntu, no way to get infected
[11:47] <robert__> robert__ has a A22p laptop - I can't change my nick in the preferences :-( of XChat because the 800x600 res do not let me see the on button at the bottom... I am trying to get a 1600x1200 native res. ATI RAGE mobility M3. The xorg.conf? file does not inidcate that the ATI drive is installed, only a "Generic Vido Card" driver...
[11:47] <omegacenti> poningru: I will look up ekigra thanks :)
[11:47] <Seveas> heckyes669, paste the output of ls -la /usr/bin/dpkg
[11:47] <zerkovic> i need some assistance ati ubuntu watching telly
[11:47] <robert__> on = ok
[11:47] <zero_> johnnytang24: didnt work
[11:47] <heckyes669> Seveas: ok hold on
[11:47] <zerkovic> !ati
[11:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:48] <robert__> thank ubotu I will check out the webpage...
[11:48] <Louey> is it possible to install ati mmc in ubuntu to watch tv?
[11:48] <zero_> johnnytang24: bash: x: .jpg: syntax error: operand expected (error token is ".jpg")
[11:48] <zero_> 
[11:48] <heckyes669> Seveas: http://paste.debian.net/30070
[11:49] <Louey> crap disconnected myself
[11:49] <Seveas> heckyes669, ok, your system is hosed. How on earth did this happen?
[11:49] <omegacenti> Louey: thats always nice isnt it?
[11:49] <Louey> yep
[11:49] <Louey> lol
[11:49] <Seveas> heckyes669, without a working dpkg, Ubuntu can't do much. You replaced dpkg with a symlink!
[11:50] <omegacenti> Louey: I have had the unfortunate business of pushing a random pattern of buttons with a well timed key click to exit my irc client...
[11:50] <johnnytang24> zero_ : oh, that should be ${x%:.jpg}
[11:50] <Seveas> heckyes669, how on f*ing earth did that happen?
[11:50] <heckyes669> Seveas: I was rebooting, and then, while booting, it asked about cloning something or other...
[11:50] <lousygarua> cr0_: how is it going with your apache?
[11:50] <Seveas> heckyes669, during filesystem checks?
[11:50] <heckyes669> Seveas: yeah, it forced a check
[11:51] <ubunt1> hey
[11:51] <Seveas> heckyes669, then your filesystem is probably hosed and this may be not the only error
[11:51] <ubunt1> ERROR: Data dir (../data/) is not writable! ?
[11:51] <Seveas> heckyes669, I suggest you do a thorough test of your disks and then reinstall
[11:51] <ubunt1> Squirrelmail
[11:51] <heckyes669> Seveas: how do i run a test?
[11:52] <Seveas> heckyes669, touch /forcefsck
[11:52] <Seveas> and reboot
[11:52] <Seveas> and look for disk errors in /var/log/kern.log
[11:52] <heckyes669> Seveas: one more thing. what could have caused this in the first place? any idea?
[11:53] <Frenchy> Anyone here know how to get aliases to work in X-Chat GNOME?
[11:53] <Seveas> heckyes669, filesystem corruption can be caused by losing power or kernel bugs or crashes or using reiserfs or...
[11:53] <Willbert> frenchy what do you want to do with the aliases?
[11:53] <Frenchy> Stuff like identify and kick
[11:54] <heckyes669> Seveas: it won't let me run fsck
[11:54] <Seveas> heckyes669, you can only run that when mounted ro, that's why you ned to do touch /forcefsck && reboot
[11:54] <cr0_> lousygarua: poorly
[11:54] <Seveas> during boot it will then do a check
[11:54] <cr0_> still working on it
[11:54] <heckyes669> Seveas: ooooh, thank you. lol
[11:55] <lousygarua> cr0_: for me apache2+php was really a point and click thing so i wonder what's wrong
[11:55] <cr0_> no idea
[11:55] <Willbert> frenchy:  $PATH:/usr/local/bin:/opt/local/bin
[11:55] <cr0_> i modified my isntall a lot
[11:55] <lousygarua> cr0_: are you on feisty?
[11:55] <Willbert> frenchy: you can edit the lines here to add aliases
[11:55] <cr0_> yup
[11:55] <cycom> Why was there an update to 2.6.20-16-generic?
[11:55] <lousygarua> cr0_: what is modified ur install?
[11:55] <cr0_> okay i purged everything apache, reinstalled, installed libapache2-mod-php5
[11:55] <Seveas> cycom, security fixes
[11:55] <cr0_> and php still doesn't work
[11:56] <lousygarua> cr0_: w8 a sec
[11:56] <lousygarua> cr0_: does the web server wrork?
[11:56] <cr0_> yeah
[11:56] <cycom> Seveas: K, thanks!
[11:56] <lousygarua> cr0_: alright did u restart it after instaling php?
[11:56] <cr0_> yeah
[11:56] <lousygarua> cr0_: and u ran a script with phpinfo() and it won't show?
[11:56] <ubunt1> hey
[11:56] <ubunt1> chown -R www-data:www-data data
[11:56] <cr0_> right
[11:57] <ubunt1> what exactly do www-data???
[11:57] <Frenchy> OK, this is the first time I've used linux, where do I put that Willbert?
[11:57] <ubunt1> tonyyarusso:
[11:57] <Willbert> aqh
[11:57] <Willbert> ok
[11:57] <lousygarua> cr0_: maybe it logged something interesting under /var/log/apache2
[11:57] <ubunt1> someone here
[11:57] <Willbert> sorry frenchy
[11:57] <PyroSama> Hello
[11:57] <cr0_> i'm watching that lousygarua and its not
[11:57] <ubunt1> chown -R www-data:www-data data what this command make becouse it say data is not writable
[11:57] <Bucat2> hello guys
[11:57] <ariane> hi !
[11:58] <dayylin> hiya Bucat2
[11:58] <Bucat2> ariane: hi!
[11:58] <PyroSama> I've looked around but haven't found a solution. I have two files that I need to join end to end with out changing the data in them
[11:58] <Chago> what is a good option for LimeWire? someone knows?
[11:58] <PyroSama> Just output file1.file2
[11:58] <Bucat2> dayylin: hi :D
[11:58] <lousygarua> cr0_ and php is under mods-enabled right/
[11:58] <cr0_> yes
[11:58] <Bucat2> good night
[11:58] <Bucat2> i am leaving
[11:58] <ubunt1> heyyyy
[11:58] <lousygarua> cr0_ w8 a sec i wanna look on my php mod contents
[11:59] <ubunt1> chown -R www-data:www-data data
[11:59] <Willbert> frenchy: PM
[11:59] <ubunt1> where this make it writable
[11:59] <Chago> who knows what is a good option for LimeWire? someone knows?
[11:59] <PyroSama> chago: bittorrent
 it worked really good, just a thing could i give them a name i want like   _thm_pic(number).jpg
[12:00] <Chago> how I get it?
[12:00] <flowmaster> bitorrent is way better
[12:00] <lousygarua> Chago/flowmaster try out deluge-torrent.org
[12:00] <PyroSama> chago: sudo apt-get install qbittorent OR sudo apt-get install azures (or how ever you spell it)
[12:00] <flowmaster> ubuntu add and remove programs
[12:00] <lousygarua> it's a new gtk bittorrtent client
[12:00] <ariane> i would like to install some 3d desktop on my ubuntu feisty. i tried before but it crashed my computer, i panicked and i deleted all the files related to it. now is there someone that could explain me how do i get that 3d desktop without killing my computer  please?
[12:00] <Willbert> frenchy?
[12:01] <lousygarua> cr0_ on mods-enabled i got php.load and php