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bulioI've tried it a while ago, and it crashed at the desktop a lot of times12:26
TheSheepbulio: never had a crash not caused by my own tinkering12:26
TheSheepbulio: it's fixed since feisty12:26
buliooh, ok12:27
TheSheepbulio: edgy and dapper used beta vesions of xgce12:27
bulioit should be a step up from XP12:28
buliowhich is kind of laggy after 4 months install12:28
bulioI guess I'll need to convert my storage partition from NTFS to Fat32?12:29
TheSheepbulio: better to ext312:29
buliocan I do that without losing data?12:30
KtronTheSheep: yeah, ext3 or one of the newer ones12:30
TheSheepbulio: I don't know12:30
Ktronbulio: what I just said to TheSheep12:30
TheSheepbulio: probably not12:30
Ktronbulio: you can convert to NTFS to Fat32 directly without losing data?12:30
bulioyeah12:31
Ktronbulio: probably better to repartition and move what you want over, and then ultimately delete the old partition and make the new one full size12:31
TheSheepbulio: if you can do that, then better stick to fat12:32
bulioso resize my 80GB partition (32GB used) into a 50GB, transfer stuff over, then delete the old partition and convert it to ext3 too?12:32
TheSheepbulio: at least it works and you know how to handle it12:32
Ktronbulio: If you're comfortable with that, yes12:32
Ktronbulio: ext3 will be better than fat3212:32
TheSheepbulio: resizing partitions can fail and destroy the data12:33
TheSheepKtron: not much12:33
KtronNever lost data resizing....12:33
Ktronntfsresize is pretty reliable12:33
TheSheepKtron: ever read its license?12:33
bulioI'll give it a try12:33
bulioI'm using partitionmagic 8.0 on windows12:33
Ktronbulio: anyway, at the end you can resize the 50gb to take the full 80gb, or if you prefer, keep them separate12:34
TheSheepbulio: but you will need additional driver yo trad ext2/3 in windows12:34
Ktronbulio: partitionmagic should have no problem resizing, and there's one built in to the *buntu installer too12:34
TheSheepto read12:34
TheSheep*12:34
KtronTheSheep: he's replacing windows xp (right?)12:34
KtronTheSheep: he won't need to ever use windows to read ext312:35
TheSheepah, in that case ext is better :)12:35
TheSheepgood night, good luck12:35
Ktronbulio: I usually go the partitioning route, simply because it means I keep what I want/need12:36
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ceil420Can't FUCK wit' {uX} when we're blazed XD http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4686/shot0012uk7.png12:37
Ktronbulio: plus, you probably don't want to keep exactly the same directory structure12:37
buliowhat do you mean, Ktron?12:38
Ktronceil420: they almost did12:38
ceil420lol12:38
bulioright now, I have windows xp on a 20GB partition, and all my data on a 90GB partition12:38
buliothe 90GB partition is NTFS12:39
KtronSo, if you're trying to keep old data, you probably have old data in like, C:\Documents and Settings\username\My Documents\My Music\ etc12:39
bulioyeah12:39
buliono12:39
bulioits in E:\12:39
Ktronbulio: oh, I got it12:39
Ktronbulio: that's better practice12:39
bulioso like E:\Music12:39
Ktronbulio: and you just want to replace the windows xp bit, right?12:39
buliothe C:\ drive is only for programs and windows itself12:39
bulio^^yeah12:40
buliobut Linux doesn't work with ntfs too well12:40
buliowhich is the filsystem of E:\12:40
KtronYou should be able to mount ntfs for r/w like that I think...12:40
buliowith ntfs-3g?12:41
KtronI don't think linux likes installing into ntfs, but I don't think you're likely to run into problems using ntfs for your storage12:41
Ktronbulio: I'm really not sure12:42
buliowell, I'll convert it to FAT32 to be safe12:42
buliothanks for the help, I'll be back later12:42
Ktronbulio: I know that I've happily mounted and worked with ntfs partitions (and played music off of them and movies) from the livecd12:42
Jester45 i think you can run linux from ntfs, becuase there is a way to install linux in windows by making a file that contains all the linux stuff. kinda like a windows swap file12:57
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aliasrushcan two different Linux partitions share the same home partition with the same users?01:10
test31does ne1 have exp w/ CUPS?   im getting this error when i use gnome-cups-manager01:10
test31(gnome-printer-view:6878): WARNING **: Two ppds have driver == 'PS, 1.1'01:10
Ktronaliasrush: I can't see why not01:11
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test31then it is complaining:  /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found01:11
Ktronaliasrush: They'll just have to share settings01:11
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bart_17heya grazie01:14
Jester45aliasrush, yea it can use the same. whats the problem? if you can read the data but not write try as root01:17
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cjae_Ok I have a huge problem my onboard ethernet (intelpro100) died or appears to have died so I replaced with an smc 10/100 pci nic01:30
cjae_the nic has a realtek chip in it so the 8139too module works but now my xservers are messed up01:30
cjae_I have two screens with an nvidia card one is tv out svideo and the other is a normal 15 " crt01:32
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cjae_I now only have the monitor but it has the tvout screen settings and nothing else, wt*01:33
cjae_??01:33
cjae_Is the nic possibly using the same nic as the agp card??01:33
cjae_that should say same irq as card01:34
cjae_how can that even affect each other01:35
cjae_I have not changed anything else that I am aware of01:37
cjae_I unloaded the e100 module as well01:37
cjae_hello01:41
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BFTDI accidentally pinged my router 25000 times01:46
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viddBFTD, dont that like kill your preformance?01:50
BFTDvidd yeah it would if I was home at the time using it01:50
viddah...so not so bad then?01:50
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cjae_anyone see my problem02:09
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cjae_ok fsck fails on my /dev/sdb1 /home partition at boot so I may only log in as root can anyone help with this03:06
cjae_the fs is ext303:07
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cjae_anyone here03:32
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C|-|R15has anyone used new xubuntu feisty fawn on a sony vaio laptop?03:47
C|-|R15does it have drivers that will detect the mouse pad correctly?03:48
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viddok...nevermind then03:51
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bulioJust installed xubuntu, its really nice!04:01
buliogonna take some getting used to though, I usually use XP at home04:02
bulioand Linux for servers04:02
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cjae_fsck 1.40-WIP fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve `UUID= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx` fsck died with exit status 804:42
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jordansdad253hello all04:50
jordansdad253can anyone please tell me how i would go about forwarding ports in xubuntu?04:52
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artabrahao what is the mc packag name?05:48
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curiogeolooking for printing support through CUPS on a brother network printer,  CUPS can see and print to the USB printer locally but network printing is failing06:13
curiogeohas anyone seen this in their own setup06:14
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kioskmy menu bar is gone - (help)06:16
BFTDkiosk alt-F206:17
BFTDand then enter in xfce4-panel06:17
kioskyep thats how I am surviving06:17
kioskBut how can I get menu back?06:17
BFTDyou see the bar?06:18
BFTDright click and then add new item06:18
kioskAlt-F2 brings me the run program06:18
kioskdialog06:18
BFTDit'll be in that list that pops up06:18
BFTDkiosk right06:18
kioskhey it's back06:19
kioskthanks06:19
kioskwill it start up on boot?06:19
BFTDit should, sometimes on the first start up it doesn't work06:20
BFTDits happened a few times to me06:20
Jester45logout and back in06:20
kioskdoes it add itself to rc.d somewhere?06:20
Jester45that should save the session then it should auto start06:20
viddmy proftp server just got stupid and "forgot" all my user's passwords....06:20
viddanyone know where i should look for what might be causing this?06:21
kioskwill rescue broken system loose my data and installed packages06:21
viddi know that the passwords are right cuzz i just re-entered them06:22
Jester45vidd, is it just ftp or more (and i hanve gotten a drink yet, wikipedia sucked me in again)06:23
viddso far as i can tell...just ftp06:23
Jester45well.. i did just ssh in so duh on me06:24
viddall my log files are compressed...so i need to ftp them....oooppss...cant do that....06:24
BFTDhrm06:25
Jester45wget them06:25
Jester45humm06:25
Jester45uncompress server side, where they at06:25
viddlast time i did that it corrupted the logs....06:26
viddthe config files look right....06:26
viddthe only change i made was to fix the server's dns server list  (/etc/resolv.cong) and reboot06:28
Jester45try unfixing06:28
Jester45why do you kill the server?06:33
viddyes06:35
artabrahaowhat it the command to descopact with tar keepping the directory estructure?06:35
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xjkxit runs a fsck check every single damn boot, can i unset it?06:50
PumpernickelAre you shutting down cleanly?06:52
xjkxYea, sometimes it freezes when reboot06:54
xjkx:>06:54
xjkxbut it happens everytime06:54
xjkxEven when its ok06:54
xjkxI think my video card isnt compatible, when i try to logoff, reboot, or anything from X i get a big time of freeze until reboot06:55
xjkxor logoff06:55
xjkxBut now I am doing reboot from alt+f1, which isnt freezing06:55
xjkxAnyway...your system doesnt make fsck check every boot? thats strange06:55
PumpernickelNope, only every 30.06:56
PumpernickelIs there a file called 'forcefsck' in /?06:57
xjkxno, but there is lost+found06:59
xjkxlost+found is empty anyway06:59
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Pumpernickelbug 6317507:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 63175 in e2fsprogs "Edgy Beta -- fsck on every (re)boot" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/6317507:04
Jester45Pumpernickel, you good at bug finding07:07
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Jester45how do you take screen shots from cli07:33
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AmbrishGET FREE RESOURCES and tutorials at www.fxtrademaker.com07:33
AmbrishGET FREE RESOURCES and tutorials at www.fxtrademaker.com07:33
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Jester45we need a op07:33
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battraHi, I'm trying to get mplayerplug-in to work on Xubuntu Edgy Eft, but the noembed=1 option in the conf file is being ignored.  Any ideas?07:40
battraWhen setting noembed=1, the plugin does not launch an external frame.07:40
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battraAnyone know how to get mplayerplug-in working?08:04
Catoptromancywhat kind of files do you want?08:04
Catoptromancyto play08:04
battraStreaming video from CNN.08:04
battraDownloaded wmv works fine.08:05
battraIt's just streaming that's not working.08:05
Catoptromancyi got something08:05
battraIn other distros, I usually set the noembed=1 option in mplayerplug-in, but the noembed=1 is being ignored in xubuntu edgy for some reason.08:06
Catoptromancyyou missing libs?08:06
CatoptromancyI got a list08:06
battraHave the libs (e.g. w32 codecs).08:07
battrastandalone mplayer works fine.08:07
Catoptromancygstreamer?08:07
CatoptromancyI got a list of libs that can watch everything ive tried08:08
battraare you using totem or mplayer?08:08
Catoptromancyzfmedia08:08
Catoptromancyxfmedia08:08
Catoptromancybut it makes install totem for divx08:09
Catoptromancybut zfmedia still plays divx nicer08:09
Catoptromancyerr08:09
battrahmm, interesting.08:09
battrahow does it play streaming video through firefox?08:09
CatoptromancyI forgot how I did it08:09
Catoptromancyi tried again and it didnt work heh08:09
battraoh08:09
Catoptromancybut I know I watched some divx in xfmdeia08:10
Catoptromancygotta get link and paste in open url08:10
battraYeah, it's just streaming that's not working on my box.  Just trying to watch cnn.com videos.08:10
battrathe audio works, but no video.08:11
Catoptromancymissing libs08:11
CatoptromancyI dont know if you need all these but I dont think it would hurt08:11
Catoptromancygstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs totem-xine08:11
CatoptromancyI can watch everything ive tried08:12
battracool, thanks.08:12
battraSo, are you able to watch videos on cnn.com?  Or is that not working for you, too?08:12
Catoptromancyumm im actually in windows right now08:13
Catoptromancyand cant reboot08:13
Catoptromancywell shouldnt heh08:13
battraOh, I gotcha.08:13
battrathanks.08:14
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Catoptromancyubuntu-restricted-extras08:19
Catoptromancyheres another lib that was in my mix08:19
CatoptromancyI made a script that auto installs every program and lib I need auto08:19
Catoptromancyfor next clean install08:19
Catoptromancyheh08:19
battranice08:20
Catoptromancyxchat and pysol I do seperate08:23
Catoptromancyso I can chat and play solitaire while I wait the 2 hours top install the rest08:23
Pumpernickelbattra: Do you have embed or noembed specifiec in mozpluggerrc?08:26
Pumpernickels/specifiec/specified/08:26
battraI have noembed=1, but it's being ignored by the plugin.08:27
battraAlso, it's specified in the file /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf.08:28
Catoptromancyheh in xubuntu only 3 people have spoken in 10 minutes08:28
Catoptromancyarr too many channels08:28
battraTo get streaming working in the past on Linux, I usually only  have to set noembed=1 and it works.  But noembed=1 is being ignored.08:28
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Pumpernickelmozpluggerrc shouldn't require the =1 syntax.08:29
battraThe plugin package I'm using is mozilla-mplayer.  It sounds like mozplugger is something different?08:30
battra=1 syntax is specified in the default conf file in mozilla=mplayer package.08:31
battrawhat is mozplugger?08:32
battracan't find it in repo (including universe and multiverse)08:32
battrasorry found it08:33
battrahmm, let me try this instead of mplayerplug-in.  Thanks.08:33
PumpernickelI have to go, but this may be a useful reference: http://mozplugger.mozdev.org/08:38
PumpernickelSecond item in the 'notes' section.08:38
battraThanks pumbernickel08:41
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kick52hello10:15
kick52is there a way to find out about the ram in my machine?10:15
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tomboy64hi guys.10:49
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tomboy64could someone tell me if the qt-libs are available on the xubuntu live-cd?10:50
tomboy64and if so, in version 4?10:50
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Gerroxub xub! :)11:32
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DeepshockHey fellas, anyone awke?12:06
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AlexCHELP12:53
AlexCnot good!!!!!12:53
AlexCi was messing with bios settings and.....12:54
AlexCnow it won't start12:54
AlexCat all12:54
AlexCnot even into bios12:54
totalwormageAlexC: well, you can always reset your cmos12:57
totalwormageif you don't mind that things are reset to default settings12:57
GerroAlexC: pop open the hood and pull the battery while its powered off12:58
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totalwormageyeah or use the jumper saying cmos, hit your powerbutten, switch the jumber again and boot :] 12:58
AlexChow do i do that?12:59
totalwormageAlexC: open up your case01:00
AlexCdohne01:00
AlexCdone01:00
totalwormagelook for a jumper, it will say cmos01:00
totalwormageand is awfully small :p01:00
AlexCi'll look01:00
AlexCbrb01:00
GerroAlexC: what were you doing to bios anyway?01:01
Gerroboth laptop I use and my brothers use pheonix bios and display the same bug message on boot01:01
Gerroi was thinking about looking into it and perhaps trying to reflash a better bios01:01
AlexCyeah, it's pheonix01:02
AlexC*award bios01:02
AlexCwhere would the jumper be?01:02
AlexCit's a late 90's mainboard01:02
AlexCAMD Duron01:03
AlexC(my bios is pheonix)01:03
Gerroyeah he uses an amd turion6401:04
totalwormageAlexC: i don't know :]  if you know your exact motherboard type, you can googled for it01:04
AlexCwhere do i find that name of my mainboard?01:04
GerroAlexC: if you don't know the model try looking for print written on it01:04
AlexCi have01:05
AlexCit uses SD RAM01:05
AlexCit's not a standard computer made by a company01:05
AlexCit's a custom made one01:05
AlexCi'll have another look, brb01:06
GerroAlexC: I doubt anyone custom made their motherboard01:06
Gerromight be modded a bit but still that's hard work01:06
AlexCi can't find name01:08
AlexCor cmos switch01:08
AlexCwhat is the name like?01:09
Gerrogive me a sec I'll show you some pics01:11
Gerrohttp://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=cmos&btnG=Search+Images take that out01:11
Gerrosee its the round thing01:12
AlexCi have one of those batteries01:14
AlexC\i'll look around that01:14
Gerrothat is what he meant by a "release" button for the cmos (battery thing)01:14
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AlexCdo i have to take that out?01:16
Gerroyes01:20
Gerroand make sure the computer is not plugged into anything01:20
AlexChow do i take it out01:20
AlexCi tried01:20
Gerroyou look for a "release" mechanism01:20
AlexCthere is a tabby thing01:23
AlexCi pull it but it's kinda hard01:23
AlexCand i don't know how to take it out01:24
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zoidbergguys01:27
zoidbergis anyone here01:27
zoidbergi have a question01:27
AlexCshoot01:27
zoidbergso i have this old G3 powerbook with 64 mb ram01:29
zoidberglol01:29
AlexCmhm01:29
zoidbergi had been running xubuntu breezy on it quite well actually01:29
zoidbergit was a lil slow but it ran fine01:29
zoidbergrecently breezy was not supported anymore01:30
zoidbergi couldnt donwload some new packages that i wanted01:30
zoidbergto i decided to upgrade to dapper or edgy01:30
zoidbergtried dapper01:30
zoidbergfirst through terminal01:30
zoidbergi've done this several times on my ubuntu pc01:30
zoidbergbut it didn't work01:30
zoidbergthen i used this breezy poerpc alternate cd to install it from scratch01:31
zoidbergand well not all pacakges got installed01:31
zoidbergi dont think the installation was complete01:31
zoidberganywas01:31
zoidbergi had to skip a few steps in the installation process because not all the packages were there01:31
zoidbergnow i reboot01:31
zoidbergand xubuntu starts01:31
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zoidbergbut there is no gui01:31
zoidbergi just get a console01:32
zoidberg?01:32
zoidbergcan u help me01:32
zoidbergdoes this mean that i dont have the xfce desktop installed?01:32
AlexCit would seem so01:32
ghata1Hi, my sound has vanished all of a sudden, audio players report that audio plugin do not work. same with every other application. What has gone wrong ?01:32
AlexCare there any error messages?01:32
AlexCzoidberg: error messages?01:33
zoidbergno not on reboot01:33
zoidbergit just boots to a console01:34
AlexChmmm01:34
zoidbergi think the installation was alright01:34
zoidbergbut not complete01:34
AlexCthat makes me think X was not installed at all01:34
AlexCtype : sudo startx01:34
zoidbergAlexC, its STARTING!!!01:35
zoidberghold on01:35
zoidberglet me see what happens01:35
zoidbergokay01:36
zoidbergthe xfce lil mous on a wheel thing was loading01:36
AlexCstarted?01:36
zoidbergbut then i get this X mouse cursor and nothing01:36
zoidbergso i dont think it is installed01:36
zoidbergcan i install it from the alternate cd i have?01:36
AlexCi only know how to on a gui01:37
AlexCyou need to put the cd into sources.list01:37
AlexCumm01:37
AlexCi think it's /etc/apt/sources.list or something01:38
AlexCi can't remember01:39
AlexCcd /etc/apt01:39
AlexCnano sources.list01:39
AlexCGerro: i can't get the battery out01:39
zoidbergAlexC, the sources.list only has the cd line01:40
AlexCghata1: are there multiple processes of esd?01:41
AlexCzoidberg: what does it say?01:41
zoidberghey AlexC ,01:42
zoidbergit just started01:42
zoidbergi just let it set for a while but it started01:42
zoidberghow can i get it to start x on boot?01:42
AlexCapplications>system>services01:42
AlexCtick gdm01:42
AlexCthat's what i did in edgy01:43
zoidbergAlexC, i went to applications>system>services but there is no gdm option to tick?01:45
AlexCo.001:45
AlexCwhen X started01:45
AlexCdid it go to a login screen?01:45
zoidbergno01:46
zoidbergi started x from the console so i was already logged in01:46
AlexCyour problem is that gdm wasn't installed01:48
AlexCand therefore it goes to a console login screen01:48
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zoidbergokay01:50
AlexCwhat kind of internet connection do you have?01:51
ghata1AlexC: there is no esd process running, ps -ef | grep esd reveals nothing01:51
AlexClook in ps -e01:52
AlexCi guess that would have same result01:53
ghata1yea01:55
AlexCsudo asoundconf list01:56
AlexCi don't know if that will help01:57
zoidberghey AlexC01:58
zoidbergdo u have a copy of your source.list....there is nothing in mine01:58
zoidbergi'm going to try to update iot01:58
AlexCmy computer won't boot01:59
AlexCthat's why i'm in here01:59
zoidbergwhats wrong with ure computer AlexC01:59
AlexCi messed with bios settings01:59
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AlexCnot good02:03
AlexCvery not good02:03
AlexCi was trying to remove the battery and i broke something02:04
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AlexCi hope it still works02:04
AlexCgerro02:04
Gerroyeah?02:04
AlexC>i was trying to remove the battery and i broke something02:05
Gerrohopefully it was just the clamp holding the battery02:05
AlexCthe battery is still in there02:05
AlexCi was using a flat head screw driver02:05
Gerroyou might want to get someone more knowledgable with the thing to have a look at it02:05
AlexCyeah02:06
AlexCbut it's public holiday tomorrow02:06
GerroAlexC: ouch hope you didn't scrape anything either02:06
AlexCi accidently hit the graphics card a few times02:07
AlexCbut no damage other than the battery holding thing02:07
zoidbergits a public holiday tommorrow?02:11
zoidbergwhy02:11
AlexCin australia02:14
AlexCgerro, fixed02:14
AlexCgerro, i had to pry it the other way02:15
AlexClol02:15
AlexCit still seems to work02:15
AlexCexept all the settings are default02:15
AlexCand it doesn't boot a OS02:20
AlexCo.o02:20
AlexChow do i setup the bios to boot xubuntu02:20
AlexCor grub02:20
AlexCyeah, grub02:20
Gerroconfigure it?02:26
GerroI don't know its your bios02:26
Gerrolol02:26
GerroAlexC: sorry I'm a bit spacing out starting at this download someone recommended on another channel02:27
AlexCheh02:29
AlexC#grub isn't being very helpful02:30
AlexCmy bios hurts my feelings02:31
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GerroAlexC: hmm so you set it to boot from hard drive right?02:49
Gerroah darn they left02:49
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ghata1 I have made some progress, reboot did not fix the problem, however i was not memeber of admin group, after adding myself to that group I can now execute applications using sudo, If i start something using sudo, it works fine, sounds works fine. But nothing works if i try it as my normal user. Looks like something to do with permissions03:02
ghata1help please03:03
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kumamotowhen u say nothing works what exactly is 'nothing'? (example)03:04
ghata1kumamoto: alsamixer reports this >> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device03:06
ghata1if i do the same using sudo alsamixer, i get nice interface for volume and other controls03:06
kumamotoif it is a device let assume it is controlled by sudo try something else on your gui and see if there is a specific permission error03:07
zoidberghey guys do u know how to make dvds work better on powerpc powerbooks03:11
zoidbergi have an old G3 powebook03:11
zoidbergand i know that you can access the ram better or something DRAM or something to make dvd playback better03:11
zoidbergany help?03:11
ghata1kumamoto: my UID is 1000, if i start something with that UID, then sound does not work, if i start something with root UID then it works fine.03:13
ghata1this includes, all my media players, and other audio and video playing devices03:14
kumamotoghata1: what do your logs say when you attempt access the sound device (dmesg or /var/log/messages)03:15
ghata1kumamoto: ok this is an output when i tried to run VLC as my normal username >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24852/03:16
kumamotook can I also see the output of /etc/security/groups.conf03:19
ghata1kumamoto: sure, here it is >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24853/03:21
kumamotosorry that didn't help let me see what I can find out03:28
kumamotoby the way do you have /dev/dsp or /dev/snd03:29
ghata1crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2007-06-09 13:53 /dev/dsp03:29
kumamotoah03:29
kumamotousermod -G user,admin,audio <username> see if that works (sudo ofcourse)03:30
ghata1sudo usermod -G user,admin,audio03:31
ghata1usermod: user user,admin,audio does not exist03:31
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kumamotoif you grep audio in your group file are you part of it03:34
kumamoto#grep 'audio' /etc/group03:34
ghata1yea, the above command only keeps in one group, either admin or audio03:34
kumamotois your user part of the group admin and audio03:35
ghata1no, I can only add my username to only one of them. when i do sudo usermod -G audio myusername, i get added to audio, but i do sudo usermod -G admin myusername then i get added to admin but remomved from audio03:36
kumamotohow about manualyl03:42
kumamotomanually03:42
ghata1done that, edited the file and added myself to both groups, not sure if it will take effect immediately or not03:42
kumamotomost likely u might need to reboot and see03:43
ghata1Hmm... right03:43
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artabrahaoanyone has ideia why the immage does not appears in http://shoppingcarba.com.br/ ?03:55
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ghata1kumamoto: that fixed the issue with sound04:07
ghata1I had to reboot04:07
ghata1I am just concerned why it happened in the first place04:07
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zoidberghey guys04:34
zoidbergwhere can i enable the wireless connection versus the ethernet connection?04:34
zoidberg?04:34
zoidbergi used to have badger xubuntu....and it had network settings....i just upgraded to dapper...i cant find network settings in applications>system04:36
zoidbergany help04:36
zoidberg?04:37
j1mczoidberg: hold on a sec04:38
j1mc:)04:38
j1mczoidberg: i'm not on dapper, but can you also check applications>settings?04:39
zoidbergits not there either04:39
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zoidbergis there a way to open it through terminal or something04:39
zoidbergi've used it before i just cant find it04:40
j1mczoidberg: sorry, i'm checking...04:41
j1mczoidberg: can you try doing:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-system-tools --reinstall  ?04:44
j1mcor, you can leave off the --reinstall flag04:44
zoidbergj1mc, i'm installing it right now04:46
zoidbergthanx04:47
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zoidbergthat worked04:47
zoidbergj1mc, thanx a lot04:47
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j1mcyeah!04:47
j1mcglad that worked, zoidberg04:48
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slow-motionhallo05:28
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SpencerO! say can you see by the dawns early light. What so proudly we hailed at the twilights last gleaming05:38
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artabrahaoanyone knows the link for lamp webpag?06:32
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vidd_laptopartabrahao, to set up a lamp or to install?06:36
totalwormageartabrahao: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show06:36
kalikianaartabrahao, You don't need lamp on ubuntu. It's almost all preconfigured.06:36
vidd_laptopthe installer is on the "alt cd"06:36
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artabrahaothanks, but I want to check it06:39
kirkeHello, I want to install drivers for my Nvidia but :  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:42
kirkeError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed06:42
kirkethe nvidia driver for your running kernel.06:42
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TheSheepkirke: install linux-restricted-modules-<your kernel version>06:49
kirkeTheSheep, yes, I've already do that.06:49
kirkesudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source06:49
TheSheepkirke: are you sure you installed for the right version?06:49
kirke sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy06:50
TheSheepkirke: restricted modules, not kernel source06:50
kirkeyes, glx-legacy is for GeForce206:50
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kirkeso  install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386?06:54
TheSheepkirke: yes06:54
kirkeOk, it's done06:54
kirkeI've "The most recent versioN"06:55
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TheSheepkirke: you should install the one for your kernel, you can check your kernel with 'uname -r'06:55
kirkeYes, i Know.06:55
kirke-desktop:~$ uname -r06:55
kirke2.6.17-10-38606:55
TheSheepok, that's good06:56
kirkelinux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386 ya est en su versin ms reciente.06:56
kirke (that's in spanish)06:56
TheSheepah, so it was installed06:56
TheSheepkirke: try 'sudo modprobe nvidia'06:56
TheSheepkirke: and tell me th last line of 'dmesg'06:56
kirkeNot loading nvidia_legacy module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:57
kirke[17179680.292000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 406:57
TheSheepkirke: ok, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and replace the 'Driver "nv"' with 'Driver "nvidia"'06:57
TheSheepkirke: looks like your disk is broken, btw, you should scan it06:58
kirkeyes06:58
TheSheepkirke: scan it and mark the bad blocks, then it won't use the broken parts06:58
kirkeat booting sometimes says my that is some problem06:58
kirkehow can I scan it?06:59
kirkeand mark the bad blocks?06:59
TheSheepkirke: remount all your partitions read-only with 'sudo mount /dev/hdcX -f -o remount,ro' (where X is the number for partition), and then run 'sudo fsck -c /dev/hdc'07:00
TheSheep!fsck | kirke07:00
ubotukirke: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot07:00
TheSheepkirke: the scanning will take some time07:01
TheSheepkirke: it has to try and read/write every single pice of your hdd07:01
kirkeouch...07:02
kirkeIt turns to complex for me, but I will try...07:02
TheSheepkirke: 'mount' will list you all the mounted partitions07:04
TheSheepkirke: look which one of them areo n hdc and remount those read-only07:04
TheSheep*are on07:04
kirkewhat's hdc?07:04
TheSheepkirke: disk connected as master to the second IDE channel07:05
TheSheepkirke: the IDE disk are called, in order, hda (first master), hdb (first slave), hdc (second master) and hdd (second slave)07:05
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kirke mount07:06
kirke/dev/hda6 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)07:06
kirkeproc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)07:06
kirkevarrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)07:06
kirkevarlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)07:06
kirkeprocbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)07:06
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kirkeudev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)07:06
kirkedevshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)07:06
kirkedevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)07:06
kirkelrm on /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)07:06
kirke/dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46)07:06
kirke/dev/hda7 on /media/hda7 type vfat (rw,utf8,umask=007,gid=46)07:07
kirkewhere is the hdc here?07:07
TheSheepkirke: there is none07:07
TheSheepkirke: say, can you do 'ls -l /dev/cdrom' ?07:07
kirkelrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-06-09 10:26 /dev/cdrom -> hdb07:08
kirkewhat's thaht?07:08
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TheSheepkirke: it means that your cdrom is connected as hdb07:09
TheSheephmm...07:09
TheSheepkirke: what about 'ls -l /dev/ | grep hdc' ?07:09
TheSheepkirke: it will list the things that refer to 'hdc'07:09
kirkebrw-rw---- 1 root cdrom    22,   0 2007-06-09 10:26 hdc07:10
TheSheepkirke: that's all?07:10
kirkeyes07:10
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ ls -l /dev/ | grep hdc07:10
kirkebrw-rw---- 1 root cdrom    22,   0 2007-06-09 10:26 hdc07:10
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$07:10
TheSheepkirke: your /etc/fstab ?07:11
kirkeit doesn't exist07:11
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:/etc$ cd fstab07:12
kirkebash: cd: fstab: No es un directorio07:12
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:/etc$07:12
TheSheepkirke: it's file07:12
TheSheepkirke: text file07:12
kirkeok wait... I don't know how to copy from nano...07:12
TheSheepkirke: select it07:13
kirke# /etc/fstab: static file system information.07:13
kirke#07:13
kirke# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>07:13
kirkeproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       007:13
kirke# /dev/hda607:13
kirkeUUID=a8a1bc46-f11f-4115-94bc-f52144f5c9b5 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       107:13
kirke# /dev/hda107:13
kirkeUUID=9C18019418016F18 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:13
kirke# /dev/hda707:13
kirkeUUID=3F47-AB8B  /media/hda7     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:13
kirke# /dev/hda507:13
kirkeUUID=939dbfd8-a4fd-428d-83b2-421d046d1014 none            swap    sw              0       007:13
kirke/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       007:13
kirke/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       007:13
TheSheepok, so you have 2 cdroms and one of them is hdc07:13
TheSheepso the reading error is probably due to a scratched disk or something like that07:14
kirkeok07:14
kirkehow can I 'unScratch' the disk :D07:14
TheSheepkirke: you can try reading it in a different drive, maybe it'll be lucky -- then burn on a new cd07:15
kirkereading what?07:16
TheSheepkirke: the cd disk07:17
TheSheepkirke: that is scratched07:17
kirkeI don't care about the cd disk07:17
TheSheepkirke: that's fine then07:17
kirkeI only want to install the nvidia driver's :'(07:18
kirke*drivers07:18
TheSheepkirke: but if you ever get this kind of erros on your hard disk drive (hda in your case), then it means trouble07:18
kirkeumm07:18
kirkeyes07:18
TheSheepkirke: ok, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:18
kirkebut the hard disk problem is related to the cd?07:18
TheSheepkirke: and replace the line with 'driver "nv"' in it to 'driver "nvidia"'07:19
kirkeyes07:19
kirkeI've alrdeady done it07:19
TheSheepkirke: try the 'modprobe nvidia' now07:19
kirke(forgive my English, but my mother language is Spanish)07:19
TheSheepkirke: your English is very good, mine is Polish07:19
kirkeyes?07:20
kirkewow.07:20
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe nvidia07:20
kirkePassword:07:20
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo modprobe nvidia07:20
kirkeit says nothign!07:20
TheSheepkirke: that's good, now try 'lsmod | grep nvidia'07:20
kirkekirke@kirke-desktop:~/Desktop$ lsmod | grep nvidia07:20
kirkenvidia               3931148  007:20
kirkeagpgart                33456  2 nvidia,via_agp07:20
kirkeand that means?07:20
TheSheepit means it's loaded in your memory07:21
TheSheepnow restart your X with alt+ctrl+backspace (it will kill all your running applications)07:21
kirkeok07:21
kirkeI will come back in 2 minutes07:21
TheSheepif it fails, put the 'driver "nv"' back and run /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:21
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kirkeTheSheep, how can I know if it's working?07:24
TheSheepkirke: any luck?07:24
TheSheepkirke: try enabling shadows07:24
kirkeI have a splash screen with "nvidia"07:24
TheSheepkirke: settings->window manager tweaks->compositor07:24
kirkebut I've try to games, but i does'nt launch the game07:24
TheSheepkirke: you can get rid of the splash screen by adding 'option "nologo"' right above or below that driver line you changed07:25
TheSheepkirke: try running the game from a terminal and look at what it says07:25
kirkeI've try kirke@kirke-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable07:26
kirkePassword:07:26
kirkeError: your X configuration has been altered.07:26
TheSheepkirke: you already did what the nvidia-glx-config was supposed to do07:26
kirkeok07:26
kirkehow can I run the game from the console?07:27
kirkeI do not know the command to enter07:27
TheSheepkirke: how did you run it?07:27
kirkefrom Aplications --> Games --> "GAME"07:27
TheSheepkirke: then there should be a file '/usr/share/applications/"GAME".desktop", and in it an 'exec' line that tells the command07:28
hyper_chhihi TheSheep07:28
TheSheepgreetings mister hyper_ch07:29
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hyper_chwhat's up in your part of the world?07:29
TheSheephyper_ch: Bush just left, I won't miss him ;)07:29
kirkeTheSheep, Is tuxkart.desktop07:29
arooIs there anything in xfce comparable to gedit/kate? (not abiword)07:29
hyper_chTheSheep: I thought bush was today in Italy...07:30
hyper_charoo: mousepad07:30
TheSheeparoo: mousepad (rather simple), scite, geany07:30
kirkeTheSheep, how can I run the TuxKart?07:30
arooThanks dudes.07:30
TheSheepkirke: look into that file07:30
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kirke[Desktop Entry] 07:31
kirkeVersion=1.007:31
kirkeEncoding=UTF-807:31
kirkeName=TuxKart07:31
kirkeGenericName=TuxKart07:31
kirkeComment=Play a 3D Go-Kart game with famous Open Source mascots07:31
kirkeType=Application07:31
kirkeExec=tuxkart07:31
kirkeIcon=tuxkart07:31
hyper_charoo: but it has no syntax highlighting I think07:31
kirkeCategories=ActionGame;Game;07:31
hyper_ch!paste | kirke07:31
ubotukirke: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:31
TheSheepkirke: I'll better tell you now, before the channel gets busy07:31
TheSheepkirke: ah, ok, hyperch already told you07:31
kirkeok07:31
hyper_chTheSheep: ;) I'm quick07:32
TheSheepkirke: so, the 'Exec' line tells you the commanfd07:32
TheSheepcommand07:32
hyper_chkirke: not being meant as offensive... general rule of thumb: More than 3 lines --> pastinb07:32
kirkeok07:32
vidd_laptophyper_ch, has that line hard-coded to a function key!07:32
kirkeData files will be fetched from: '/usr/share/games/tuxkart'07:32
kirkePW: GLX extension not available on display ':0.0'?!?kirke@kirke-desktop:/usr/s07:32
kirke3 Lines :D07:32
hyper_chhiho vidd_laptop07:33
TheSheepkirke: that's weird07:33
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vidd_laptop*wave* hyper_ch07:33
kirkeweird means rare?07:33
TheSheepkirke: unexpected to me :)07:33
kirkeTheSheep, ok07:33
hyper_chkirke: that means the grand master TheSheep doesn't really know what's happening... ans since not many things can surprise him... it's weird07:33
kirkeTheSheep, Thanks for trying and for patience.07:34
unikonuboto pastebin has been down recently07:34
kirkehyper_ch, jaja07:34
hyper_chunikon: I prefer http://www.phpfi.com  --> because you can enter name and keywords and later search for it :)07:34
vidd_laptophyper_ch, you are not in -offtopic....07:34
hyper_chvidd_laptop: yes I know.. I'm right on topic ;) sort of...07:35
hyper_chkirke: do you have an old nvidia card?07:35
=== vidd_laptop wanted to task your incredible knowledge on a not-xubuntu-specific issue....
hyper_chkirke: I mean are you required to use the legacy drivers?07:36
kirkehyper_ch, yes GeForce 207:36
kirkehyper_ch, yes, I know.07:36
hyper_chdid you add the "no compose" to your xorg.conf?07:36
kirke"no compose"?07:36
hyper_ch!restricted07:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:36
hyper_ch!nvidia07:37
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:37
kirkehyper_ch, ??07:37
hyper_chkirke: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-6a16bd77ea4c381bf0c6502489d408f9dc6d5d6707:38
hyper_chthat thing here:07:38
hyper_chSection "Extensions"07:38
hyper_ch        Option  "Composite" "Disable"07:38
hyper_chEndSection07:38
=== vidd_laptop wanted to task your incredible knowledge on a not-xubuntu-specific issue.... hyper_ch
hyper_chvidd_laptop: go ahead07:38
vidd_laptopi had set up a blog and a forum on my server box....07:39
hyper_chkirke: that's what I had to do with my old GeForce 2 GTS/Pro07:39
hyper_chvidd_laptop: that's good ;)07:39
hyper_chwell, actually07:39
vidd_laptopthen got my system hosted at work, and registered a domain name....07:39
hyper_ch"had" means past07:39
hyper_chand hence you imply you don't have it any longer ;)07:39
vidd_laptopnow they are looking to my old dyndns domain instead of the new one....07:39
hyper_chyeah, ok... and problem is now you don't know how to get the domain to your box?07:40
vidd_laptopand i cant figure out WHERE i need to fix the referencing issue07:40
vidd_laptopthe domain is fine.....07:40
hyper_chvidd_laptop: well, the box is yours and you have full control over the domain?07:40
vidd_laptopbut the scripts are looking to the OLD domain, and i need to "educate" them to the new domain name07:40
vidd_laptophyper_ch, yes07:41
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kirkehyper_ch, after "Section "Extensions"07:41
kirke        Option  "Composite" "Disable"07:41
kirkeEndSection"07:41
kirkeI have to restart?07:41
hyper_chvidd_laptop: if you really want to host the domain I'd suggest to setup nameservers... create a glue record and your domain host for the nameservers and that's it :)07:42
hyper_chkirke: well, you have to restart the X-server07:42
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hyper_chkirke: you can do that by rebooting the machine07:42
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vidd_laptopno...you can browse to my site....07:42
kirkeand ctrl-alt-backpsace?07:42
hyper_chkirke: or press ctrl-alt-escape (this will end your current session and just reload)07:42
hyper_chkirke: oh, it's ctrl-alt-backspce07:43
hyper_ch;)07:43
vidd_laptopbut the scripts for my blog and other mysql stuff is all being reference to the OLD doamin name and not the new one07:43
kirkeok07:43
kirkethanks.07:43
kirkeI've try.07:43
hyper_chvidd_laptop: well, the scripts for blog and so on have mostly a config.php07:43
hyper_chor config.inc.php07:43
hyper_chwhere you can set the path and db parameters07:43
hyper_chis wordpress your blog?07:43
vidd_laptopyes hyper_ch07:44
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hyper_chvidd_laptop: well, it has somewhere a config file... could be wp_conf.php or something like that07:45
vidd_laptopright...but it does not state the url's in there07:45
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Woopahhhello, im having problems getting wireless internet on my Thinkpad T60! anyone that can help me whit this problem?07:47
vidd_laptopso i think that the db itself has the calls to the old site name07:47
hyper_chvidd_laptop: the domain.name could be in the db as you say07:47
hyper_chvidd_laptop: have you installed phpmyadmin?07:47
vidd_laptopWoopahh, what chipset are you using for your wireless07:47
vidd_laptophyper_ch, yes07:47
Woopahhhow do i find that out?07:47
hyper_chvidd_laptop: then have a look at the wp database there07:48
vidd_laptopWoopahh, is it an internal wireless, usb, or pcmcia?07:48
hyper_chvidd_laptop: most script do store basic infos in a config file... maybe wp is a an exception from that07:48
Woopahhinternal07:48
vidd_laptophyper_ch, ok...ty07:48
vidd_laptopWoopahh, on the command line, type lspci07:48
vidd_laptopWoopahh, in the output you want to look for something like : 02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)07:49
hyper_chvidd_laptop: the wp_options table07:49
vidd_laptophyper_ch, ok...you use wordpress too?07:49
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hyper_chvidd_laptop: yes07:50
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vidd_laptophyper_ch, i'd like to read it sometime07:50
hyper_chvidd_laptop: you know German?07:50
vidd_laptophyper_ch, no....07:50
vidd_laptop=[07:50
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hyper_chvidd_laptop: well, then there's not much use :)07:50
vidd_laptophyper_ch, why do all the interesting ppl write in languages i cant understand!07:51
vidd_laptop=[07:51
hyper_chvidd_laptop: why don't you learn more languages?07:51
hyper_chvidd_laptop: I understand German, French, English, Italian... some spanish and very little swedish07:52
DaBeowulfWhy does it say this even when I use sudo?: ln: creating symbolic link `/media/disk/Spiele/UT2k4/System/libSDL-1.2.so.0' to `/usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0': Operation not permitted07:52
hyper_chDaBeowulf: what did you exactely enter as command?07:52
DaBeowulfDoes it require a libSDL-1.2.so.0 in UT2k4 to exist?07:53
DaBeowulfThis: ln -s /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 /somewhere/ut2004/System/libSDL-1.2.so.007:53
DaBeowulfwith sudo in front07:53
vidd_laptophyper_ch, i only know english, a little spanish, and less turkish07:53
DaBeowulfNote media/disk is the contents of my Win partition07:54
TheSheepDaBeowulf: you can isntall sdl from the repositories...07:54
hyper_chDa what file system is it?07:54
hyper_chDaBeowulf: what file system is it?07:55
DaBeowulfI do have it in usr/lib07:55
hyper_chis that /somewhere/...   a fat32 or ntfs partition?07:55
DaBeowulfHmm a usual Dos/Win98 I guess07:55
DaBeowulfHow can I look that up?07:56
TheSheepDaBeowulf: they don't have symlinks :)07:56
TheSheepDaBeowulf: type 'mount'07:56
hyper_chDaBeowulf: somehow I don't think you can create a symlink to a win partition07:56
vidd_laptopWoopahh, did you find your wireless card?07:56
DaBeowulftype vfat07:57
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DaBeowulfCan I just copy the files it needs there then?07:58
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hyper_chDaBeowulf: what do you want to do?07:58
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DaBeowulfHere try your german again? ;) http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/h2006/comments/Unreal+Tournament+200407:59
DaBeowulfit says the latest linux patch misses these libraries07:59
C|-|R15Hi...anyone using xubuntu on a laptop that (like Vaio) that has a mousepad?07:59
unikonanyone? i need help recovering my root pw on 6.06 Dapper Drake08:00
C|-|R15does 7.04 have drivers for mousepad type on laptop?08:00
hyper_chDaBeowulf: copying them there should also work08:01
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DaBeowulfThanks so I'll try that.08:01
hyper_chunikon: hmmm, you can't...08:01
unikoni wonder if id be able to recover my files booting up in knoppix08:02
TheSheepunikon: yes, or you can boot with init=/bin/bash added to the kernel options08:02
TheSheepunikon: then remount / in read-write and change your password08:02
hyper_chTheSheep: cool :)08:03
TheSheepthat's why gub has an option to add password to the boot options editor :)08:03
TheSheepgrub08:03
hyper_chjust to make it clear: he was talking about recovering his root pwd and not hacking his computer ;)08:03
TheSheephyper_ch: it's the same08:03
hyper_chTheSheep: not really.. recover means he will get the information regarding his root pwd... hacking means circumventing that obstacle ;)08:04
TheSheephyper_ch: well, recovering the password would require breaking the hash in /etc/shadow, probably with bruteforce, which takes several days on a very fast computer...08:05
hyper_chDVD Encoder OGMRip looks nice... has someone already tried it?08:05
hyper_chTheSheep: only several days?08:06
TheSheephyper_ch: computers get faster every day08:06
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Jester45TheSheep, how would it take days? on a passord thats about 8 caractors long? could you just guess all the possibilities with in a pretty short amountg of time08:07
hyper_ch8 characters is much to hack08:07
TheSheepJester45: count how many possibilities there are08:07
Jester45i will when i get back08:07
hyper_chhow many combinations per second? 50'000?08:08
unikonhyper_ch if i can just use knoppix to boot up and hopefully it will see the hd all i want to do is recover files i saved to the desktop and home folder08:08
TheSheepconsidering you only check 64 characters (lower and upper case, digits and some punctuation), you get 64^808:08
hyper_chunikon: you do not have /home on a seperate partition?08:08
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TheSheepunikon: you can just mount your partition from knoppix, chroot to it and use passwd to change the root password08:09
TheSheephyper_ch: dthat doesn't matter08:09
hyper_chTheSheep: well, if /home is on a seperate drive he could just reinstall everything if he wanted08:10
unikonfiles on my desktop,firefox links,and other screenshots and such is all i want to recover then id be upgrading from 6.06 to the recent08:10
hyper_ch64^8=28147497671065608:11
vidd_laptopand that is assuming no special characters08:12
hyper_ch--> /86400 (seconds per day) =  411513123808:12
hyper_chit would talke some many days if you had one combo per second08:13
hyper_chnow let's say 100'000 combos per second08:13
hyper_chit would still amount to 41'000 days08:13
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vidd_laptopso 41 computers...with 100k attempts per second....still a whole day08:14
hyper_chvidd_laptop: no... 41k computers08:14
TheSheephyper_ch: fortunately it's much faster, and you don't really try all combinations in the order of their length -- you first try words from the dictionary, then their combinations and modifications, then letter combinations common in human languages08:14
vidd_laptopsorry...my keyboard skips letters whenever it feals like it,,,,,08:15
hyper_chTheSheep: luckily I don't have such a password ;)08:15
vidd_laptopusually when it can make me look the most foolish!08:15
TheSheephyper_ch: common letter replacements, like 0 for O or 5 for S are tried too08:16
=== hyper_ch thinks the nsa could crack his pwd in 1 day... they have enough computers
hyper_chTheSheep: doesn't work on mine... :)08:16
TheSheephyper_ch: good for yuo08:16
TheSheephyper_ch: that's provided they have access to your /etc/shadow08:17
=== vidd_laptop uses special characters that are not found on most us keyboards
hyper_chI use a key phrase from where I select for each word a specific letter... perfectly rememberable but hard to find out08:17
TheSheephyper_ch: yeah, these tend to be best08:17
hyper_chfor example: Cesar - De Bello Gallico starts like this:  Gallia omnia est divisa in partes tres --> G03d1p308:18
hyper_chjust as a possible example08:18
hyper_chsomething one can remember08:18
TheSheephyper_ch: you could just have a 64-characters long password in morse ;)08:19
hyper_chTheSheep: I only now very few letters in morse... like the S and O and E and A08:19
hyper_ch+k08:19
hyper_chI even created a password like that one above for my mom and she really can remember it :)08:21
TheSheephyper_ch:  --..  ..  .  .-- ...-.-08:21
vidd_laptopmy mother uses the Ultra-Secure password...pa55w0rd08:21
TheSheepvidd_laptop: all microsoft courses use p@ssw0rd :)08:22
vidd_laptoptakes a hack all of about .16 seconds to crack08:22
hyper_chTheSheep: how do you know?08:22
hyper_chwow... nobody has any troubles... cool :)08:24
hyper_chI just read again that Nils Bohr joke... I still wonder if it is actually true08:24
TheSheephyper_ch: http://helios.wmid.amu.edu.pl/~sheep/blog/cert.html08:24
hyper_chTheSheep: you have a blog?08:24
TheSheephyper_ch: yes, at http://sheep.art.pl08:25
hyper_chiiieks... you are windoze certified?08:25
DaBeowulfCopying doesn't work.. I'll have to make new partitions :/ Two times 10GB? 10GB is far too small for Windows even 98SE to do anything..08:25
DaBeowulfI need to shell out for a new hdd08:25
TheSheepDaBeowulf: xubuntu fits in 3GB08:25
DaBeowulfBut UT2k4 doesn't :|08:26
hyper_chDaBeowulf: you could add ext2/3 support to windows... then you can read/write your linux partitions from windows... but I don't know if that works in win98se08:27
vidd_laptophyper_ch, can you come to -offtopic to help me with my database issue?08:27
DaBeowulfWhy doesn't it allow me to put proper links to the libraries there? It's just not possible?08:29
hyper_chyou cannot symlink to a fat partition08:29
DaBeowulfBut I can read and write to it O_o08:30
DaBeowulfah but not the other way and that or something like it is the catch here?08:30
TheSheepDaBeowulf: yes, but the way it stores files doesn't allow you to set unix-like permissions or symbolic links on it08:30
TheSheepDaBeowulf: the files don't even have their owner and group08:31
DaBeowulfI would ditch Win completely if I was not going to a LAN next saturday..08:32
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hyper_chTheSheep: you're into anime?08:33
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TheSheephyper_ch: yes, not fanatically though08:35
TheSheephyper_ch: more into manga08:35
unikonim gonna go offline for a bit to do some testing  bbl if i need more help08:35
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corneliushi08:35
TheSheephi cornelius08:35
hyper_chTheSheep: all the same.. :) btw, got a new guestbook entry08:35
slow-motionhallo08:35
corneliussomeone speaking german in here ? ;-)08:36
TheSheep!de08:36
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:36
DaBeowulfI just <3 how I never have to reboot and my whole RAM can get used and Doom3 performs so much better than in Win98SE(k that's not supported by ID for a reason most likely :P) on the same hardware that it is unbelievable.08:36
corneliusthanks a lot08:36
DaBeowulfI'm german. :D08:36
hyper_chI'm not German but I understand most of it ;)08:36
corneliussehr schln:)08:37
corneliusi try to improve my english08:37
TheSheepbbl, Jakie Chan in tv :)08:38
DaBeowulfhot asian ladies ftw =o08:38
DaBeowulfI got to cut down on that gamer lingo and its abbreviations in here.08:39
DaBeowulfAnyway thanks for trying to help.08:41
DaBeowulfHa I'll try only copying the whole UT2k4 System dir to my tiny Xubuntu partition and adjust the pathes in the ini. :)08:46
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buliohow can I unmount my drive /dev/hda5?08:54
bulioI think thunar keeps disallowing me to08:55
hyper_chbulio: close all apps that access it08:55
hyper_chand then in a terminal:   sudo umount /dev/hda508:55
bulioits a storage partition08:55
bulioI tried umount08:56
buliodoesnt allow me to unmount it08:56
buliodevice is busy08:56
hyper_chdid you do what I said?08:57
buliohow do I close thunar?08:57
bulioits the only thing accessing it08:57
hyper_chclose it08:58
Smygisbulio, I had the same issue, There is a bug someware. For me it went away after some update.08:58
SmygisAtleast i think it whas the same issue08:59
bulioI update in synaptic or apt-get?09:00
hyper_chbulio: whatever you prefer... I prefer aptitude09:00
SmygisSame thing09:00
buliook09:00
bulioI'll do an apt-get upgrade09:00
buliothen reboot?09:01
hyper_chbulio: in the ocmmand line:    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade09:01
bulioI did that09:01
hyper_chwell, then a reboot isn't bad09:01
buliook09:01
bulioill reboot now09:01
Smygis:/09:02
PumpernickelYou can just disable Thunar's auto-mounting feature.09:02
buliobut I like the auto-mounting feature09:02
bulioI just need to unmount it so that I can partition the drive09:02
bulioI have 30GB of free space that must be merged with the 50GB paritition09:02
PumpernickelThen right-click on the drive's icon and there should be an option to do that.09:03
buliosays I need to be root09:03
Pumpernickelhm09:03
buliorun thunar as root?09:03
hyper_chbulio:   sudo umount /dev/hda509:03
buliotried it09:03
hyper_choh ok09:03
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ashtarhello, how do I get rid of the transparency in icons on desktop?09:04
PumpernickelWhat does `lsof /dev/hda5` return?09:04
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DaBeowulfHmm I had to link libstdc++.so.5 from /usr/lib32 as well and when I now try to run the game I get "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32"09:08
PumpernickelIt's expecting it to not be a symlink.09:09
DaBeowulf^ That when I try the AMD64 bin and the same error only with libSDL-1.2.so.0 when trying the normal bin09:09
DaBeowulfOh okay so I'll copy the files they link to there and name them what the links are called at the moment?09:09
PumpernickelWait, where did you link it to?09:10
bulioPumpernickel, Thunar  4850 bulio   21r   DIR    3,5 4096    2 /media/hda509:11
DaBeowulfI used the commands found here: http://www.holarse-linuxgaming.de/h2006/comments/Unreal+Tournament+2004 (from bottom just above links)09:12
Pumpernickelbulio: Kill that process and then try umounting the drive.09:12
DaBeowulfln -s /usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5 /home/stefan/Desktop/System/libstdc++.so.5 for instance09:12
buliokillall thunar?09:12
Pumpernickelbulio: Yeah.09:12
buliothunar: no process killed09:13
PumpernickelDaBeowulf: Sorry, I jumped to what I think was the wrong conclusion, originally.09:13
Pumpernickelbulio: Thunar.09:13
buliooh09:13
PumpernickelLinux is case-sensitive.09:13
bulioyeah09:13
bulioworked09:13
buliothanks09:13
PumpernickelDaBeowulf: That error seems to occurr when the application is expecting the library to be the other of 32/64 bit.09:14
Pumpernickele.g; expecting a 64bit library, but finding a 32bit one.09:14
buliowhat would be the best partition editior to merge two partitions?09:14
PumpernickelGParted.09:15
bulioI'm using it09:15
hyper_chbulio: but backup your data first09:15
buliobut it won't allow me to add 32GB of unallocated space to /dev/hda509:15
hyper_chbulio: both partitions must be unmounted09:15
buliomust I make the unallocated space a partition first?09:15
buliohyper_ch, the unallocated nor hda5 is mounted09:16
Pumpernickelbulio: The partitions would have to be sequential.09:16
buliowhat do you mean?09:16
Pumpernickel|--hda5--|--free space--|09:16
hyper_chbulio: there must not be another partition between hda5 and the unallocatoed space09:16
PumpernickelAs opposed to |--hda5--|--something else--|--free space--|09:17
buliothere isnt right now09:17
bulioit goes swap---/---unallocated----/dev/hda509:17
hyper_chthat should be ok09:17
buliobut where is the option to extend hda5?09:18
buliowait, encompassing all the partitions is "extended", which is /dev/hda209:19
bulioit is the size of my harddisk09:19
hyper_chb ulio can't you modifi /dev/hda5/09:19
bulioI think I need to partition the unallocated space first09:20
bulioI'm partitioning it to ext309:20
hyper_chbulio: right-click /dev/hda509:20
hyper_chand then select resize/move09:20
bulioI did09:20
hyper_chin gparted09:20
buliobut it only allows me to go up to 50GB09:20
bulionot 90 like it should09:20
hyper_chcan you make a screenshot?09:20
DaBeowulfHmm so where would I go if I wanted to obtain the 64bit libstdc++.so.5 ?09:20
hyper_chDaBeowulf: http://package.ubuntu.com09:21
DaBeowulfThanks.09:21
bulioscreenshot in one second09:21
hyper_chbut why are 64bit libararies needed?09:22
hyper_chvidd_laptop: how you're coming along?09:22
vidd_laptophyper_ch, you rock....09:22
DaBeowulfI dunno, it's a special amd64 bin as it seems.09:22
hyper_chvidd_laptop: that wasn't the question ;)09:22
vidd_laptopim now happily typing away in my new blog09:22
hyper_chDaBeowulf: I doubt that they run on a 32bit os...09:23
buliohttp://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4388/lookxg8.png09:23
vidd_laptopi had to purge the old...but it was only one entry...NBD09:23
hyper_chvidd_laptop: to your domain name, you also need to add the "www" otherwise the content of your IP shows ;)09:23
vidd_laptophrm....09:23
vidd_laptopaliasing must be done09:24
DaBeowulfHmm, I'm on FF AMD64, not?09:24
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buliosee anything odd in the screenshot?09:24
hyper_chbulio: nope... it should display there preceeding free space09:25
hyper_chvidd_laptop: you'll manage09:25
bulioso what could be wrong then?09:25
hyper_chbulio: no clue :) do you still have data on /dev/hda5?09:26
bulioyes09:26
bulioand I need it09:26
hyper_chbulio: do you have backups of that data?09:26
bulioat present, no09:26
hyper_chbulio: then don't mess around with it09:26
bulioso create a bew partition?09:26
hyper_chbulio: always have backups when messing around partition tables...09:26
bulio*new09:26
hyper_chbecause if something messes up... the data is gone...09:27
hyper_chand once you have backups... you can easily also delete the /dev/hda5 one and create it new ;)09:27
bulioyeah09:27
hyper_chbut actually, I dunno why you can enlarge the partition....09:28
hyper_chbut before you try anything, make backups09:28
bulioI am09:29
hyper_ch;)09:31
hyper_chit's also good practice to make regular backups ;)09:31
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vidd_laptophyper_ch, looks like im going to have to go googling for that fix,,,,09:33
hyper_chvidd_laptop: somewhere in the vhost section it should be set09:33
hyper_chvidd_laptop: but you'll find out ;)09:34
vidd_laptopyeah09:34
vidd_laptopeventually....09:34
hyper_ch;)09:35
vidd_laptop*groan* =] 09:35
vidd_laptopbut all the better to LEARN from09:35
hyper_chvidd_laptop: google for:   apache2 domain alias   --> 1st result looks promising09:36
vidd_laptopIf everything went super smooth....waht would i have learned09:36
vidd_laptopill be back09:36
hyper_chdid you use the howtoforge setup?09:36
vidd_laptop[work is demanding my time09:36
vidd_laptophyper_ch, no....can you give me a link?09:37
hyper_chhttp://www.google.ch/search?q=apache2+domain+alias&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a09:38
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adam0509do someone know how to desactivate transparency using withour removing option composite ??09:59
adam0509Because it's good to desactivate transparency before playing a game...09:59
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maxamillionadam0509: you can just go into the window manager tweaks settings in the settings manager and uncheck the check boxes about the transparency, play your game and then re-check when you are done10:02
adam05091) They're is no "box" but only bar10:03
adam05092) Panel use transparency too10:03
adam0509(and panel don't have box but only bar)10:04
maxamillionadam0509: oh ... huh, sure does ... my mistake10:05
DaBeowulfHa there seems to have been a FAQ somewhere that I missed.. I found a solution to my problem from the looks of it.10:05
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DaBeowulfIs it bad to try sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 when it already shipped with XubuntuFF(AMD64) just not in 64 bit?10:16
DaBeowulfwell and is it any good?10:17
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stankshello10:20
maxamillionhi10:21
DaBeowulflo o/10:21
stanksi need some help with my sound card10:21
artabrahaohi, when I type sudo su appears must be setuid root10:21
stanksi was on ubuntu forums but everything i have found didn't solve the problem10:21
stanksi can play mp3's, watch movies, etc. all with sound10:21
stanksbut when i run xdtv (for watching tv) there is no sound10:22
stanksrecording from xdtv saves sound too, but when i only watch tv there is nos sound10:22
stanksi tried with latest realtek-linux-audiopack but again no sound in xdtv10:23
stanksanyone have any idea about this10:24
maxamillionartabrahao: why would you need to sudo su?10:24
maxamillionstanks: there is probably just a setting in xdtv thats not pointing to the right sound device, that happened to me before with gxine10:25
vidd_laptopstanks, is it possible that another app is grabbing your sound card?10:25
artabrahaohi, when I type sudo su appears must be setuid root thing I user chmod in / in the wrong form10:26
stanksvidd_laptop: no10:27
stanksmaxamillion: what setting? i didn't found anything where i can change alsa or oss or else10:27
maxamillionartabrahao: why would you need to sudo su?10:27
maxamillionstanks: i dunno, i've never used xdtv10:28
stanksbtw after i install and restart my comp mplayer starts without sound too (alsa set as deafult -ao)10:28
stanksafter i install realtek-linux-audiopack10:29
stanksi have10:29
stanksCard: HDA NVidia10:29
stanksChip: Realtek ALC88810:29
stankshmmm....i tried xdtv with oss but no sound again10:32
stanks:(10:32
stanksALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM /dev/snd10:33
stanksALSA lib pcm.c:2144:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM /dev/snd10:33
stanks*** AUDIO DEVICE TYPE = oss10:33
stanksALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer10:33
stankssnd_mixer_open: Nema takve datoteke ili direktorija10:33
stanks*** MIXER DEVICE TYPE = oss10:33
maxamillion!pastebin | stanks10:33
ubotustanks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:33
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stankssorry10:33
maxamillionits ok10:33
artabrahaoto install some packages10:36
artabrahaowhat is the default chmod for / ?10:37
stanksxdtv is built with alsa10:38
stanksand oss10:38
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DaBeowulfOkay here is an easy one: How does a full path specification look in Linux? >_<10:43
maxamillionDaBeowulf: /home/userName/Desktop/someFile.txt10:45
DaBeowulfSo just beginning with a slash?10:45
DaBeowulfDamn I think I tried that..10:45
DaBeowulfThere's no C:\ equivalent?10:46
maxamillionDaBeowulf: / is the C:\ equivalent10:47
maxamillionDaBeowulf: / = root directory .... C:\ = some alienated stupid concept microsoft came up with that essentially translates to "root directory"10:48
DaBeowulfAnd when I just end in a path that'd look like this /home or /home/10:48
maxamillionDaBeowulf: either will work10:51
maxamillionDaBeowulf: /home/ is more formal though10:51
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graziemaxamillion: hi...I need to ask you about a couple of things...it's off topic...should I pm you?11:07
magic_ninja!planeshift11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:07
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maxamilliongrazie: you can either pm me or just join #xubuntu-offtopic ... which ever you prefer11:16
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